{"id":"court_ctb_1082_1","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":1082,"sub_number":1,"doc_type":"UNKNOWN","filed_date":"2022-11-11","title":"Transcription of Ho Wan Kwok Hearing from Audio Time Mark from 1:53:00 to 2:16:51","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"Transcription of Ho Wan Kwok Hearing from Audio Time Mark from 1:53:00 to 2:16:51\n\n*59 9 9*\n\n| L1
Ms Claiborn: | What is the name of the attorney holding the check? |\n|-------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2
Official interpreter: | What is the name of the attorney holding the \\$12000 check? |\n| L3
Mr. Kwok: | I am not able to tell
the full name of the attorney. |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | I can't pronounce the attorney's name completely. |\n| L5
Ms Claiborn: | What is the attorney's first name? |\n| L6
Official
interpreter: | What is the attorney's first name? |\n| L7
Mr. Kwok: | I am also unable to pronounce it just like that. |\n| L8
Official interpreter: | I cannot –
I'm not able to read out the –
to pronounce his name. |\n| L9
Ms Claiborn: | Is the attorney who's holding the check the same attorney who |\n| L10 | represented you in that lawsuit? |\n| L11
Official interpreter: | Is the attorney who's holding the check the same attorney who |\n| L12 | represented you in that lawsuit? |\n| L13
Mr. Kwok: | Could be. |\n| L14 Official interpreter: | It should be. |\n| L15
Ms Claiborn: | On your Schedule A-B, |\n| L16
Official interpreter: | On your Schedule A-B, |\n| L17
Ms Claiborn: | you did not disclose that \\$12,000 check. |\n| L18
Official interpreter: | On the
Schedule A-B, you did not tell the \\$12,000 check. |\n| L19
Mr. Kwok: | It did not… |\n| L20
Ms Claiborn: | Why? |\n| L21
Mr. Baldiga: | Wait for the question. No. Can you interpret that? |\n| L22
Official interpreter: | Wait until she finished the question. |\n| L23
Ms Claiborn: | Why did you not disclose that \\$12,000 check? |\n| L24
Official interpreter: | Why did you not report the \\$12,000 check the money? |\n| L25
Mr. Kwok:
L26 | My attorney thought that since the money was not in my account, I
was not allowed to. |\n| L27
Official interpreter:
L28 | My attorney thinks because the money is not in my account, so I'm
not allowed to –we're not –
I'm not supposed to disclose that. |\n| L29
Ms Claiborn: | Okay. Mr. Kwok, do you have any patents? |\n| L30
Official interpreter: | Mr. Kwok, do you have any patents? |\n| L31
Mr. Kwok: | Patents?
No. |\n| L32
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L33
Ms Claiborn: | Do you have any copyrights? |\n\n**Debtor's Exhibit A**\n\n| L1 | Official interpreter: | Do you have any copyrights (in English), what is it called? |\n|------------|-----------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2 | Private interpreter: | Copyright (in Chinese). |\n| L3 | Official interpreter: | Right, Copyright (in Chinese). |\n| L4 | Mr. Kwok: | Copyright? No. |\n| L5 | Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L6 | Ms Claiborn: | Do you have any intellectual property of any kind? |\n| L7 | Official interpreter: | Do you have any intelligence kind of… |\n| L8 | Private interpreter: | Intellectual property (in Chinese). |\n| L9 | Official interpreter: | Right, Intellectual Property (in Chinese). Do you have any |\n| L10 | | Intellectual Property Right? |\n| L11 | Mr. Kwok: | Intellectual Property Right? No. |\n| L12 | Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L13
L1 | Mr. Baldiga: | Excuse me. Holley, I'm not sure if you're going to come back to it,
but there is a reference to the \\$12,000 |\n| L12 | Ms. Claiborn: | I did see that. |\n| L13 | Mr. Baldiga: | Oh, you said he did not disclose it. |\n| L14 | Ms. Claiborn: | He did not. It's not in response to the questions on Schedule A-B. |\n| L15 | Mr. Baldiga: | It's right there. |\n| L16
L17 | Ms. Claiborn: | We can disagree
about whether
or not it's disclosed. I understand you
might take a different position. |\n| L18
L19 | Official interpreter: | He
said here was the \\$12000. But Holley did not think it was reported
and everyone has their own position. |\n| L20
L21 | Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you own any interest in a company called Ace Decade
Holdings Limited? |\n| L22
L23 | Official interpreter: | She said, do you have any interest in a company called Ace Decade
Holdings Limited? |\n| L24 | Mr. Kwok: | Yes. |\n| L25 | Official interpreter: | Yes. |\n| L26
L27 | Ms Claiborn: | What is the nature of your ownership interest in Ace Decade Holdings
Limited? |\n| L28 | Official interpreter: | Your interest in there is what kind of interest? |\n| L29 | Mr. Kwok: | I have the interest to make a claim to the UBS
\\$500 million
litigation. |\n| L30
L31 | Official interpreter: | So I have the interest
and ask for UBS to pay back \\$500 million. That
kind of interest. |\n| L32 | Ms Claiborn: | Are you the only legal owner of Ace
Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L33 | Official interpreter: | Are you the
only, can you repeat the question? |\n\n*61*\n\n| L34
Ms. Claiborn: | Are you the only legal owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n|------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L35
Official interpreter: | Are you the only legal owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L36
Mr. Kwok: | I am legally representing the owner. |\n| L37
Official interpreter: | I am a legal
representing owner. |\n| L38
Ms Claiborn: | Are there any other owners of Ace Decade? |\n| L39
Official interpreter: | Are there other owners? Owners of
Ace Decade? |\n| L1
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L2
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L3
Ms Claiborn: | When did you become an owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | When did you become an owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L5
Mr. Kwok: | At the end of 2014 |\n| L6
Official interpreter: | At the end of 2014 |\n| L7
Ms Claiborn: | This is a long question. In your litigation in London against UBS, |\n| L8
Official interpreter: | In your litigation in London against UBS, |\n| L9
Ms Claiborn: | You are an individual plaintiff. |\n| L10
Official interpreter: | You are the only plaintiff. |\n| L11
Ms Claiborn: | What is the basis for your claim
as an individual plaintiff? |\n| L12
Official interpreter: | Why were you the only plaintiff? What was your basis? |\n| L13
Mr. Kwok: | Because I am a 100% representative of the company Ace Decade. |\n| L14
Official interpreter: | Because I'm the 100% representative for Ace Decade. |\n| L15
Ms Claiborn: | In the litigation against
UBS in London, |\n| L16
Official interpreter: | In the litigation against UBS in London, |\n| L17
Ms Claiborn: | there is an allegation that Ace Decade gave \\$500 million to Dawn |\n| L18 | State Limited. |\n| L19
Official interpreter: | In the litigation, Ace Delegation gave (\\$500 million in English, |\n| L20 | muttering how much is that in Chinese)
the money to Dawn |\n| L21 | Limited… |\n| L22
Mr. Kwok: | Dawn State |\n| L23
Ms Claiborn: | Dawn State |\n| L24
Official interpreter: | Dawn State |\n| L25
Private interpreter: | 500 million yuan (in Chinese) |\n| L26
Ms Claiborn: | Where did Ace Decade get the \\$500 million? |\n| L27
Official interpreter: | Where did Ace Decade get the \\$500 million? |\n| L28
Mr. Kwok: | Loan from our
family. |\n\n*61*\n\nL1 Official interpreter: I loan from my family. L2 Ms Claiborn: Did you borrow money from your family and give it to Ace Decade? L3 Official interpreter: Did you borrow the money from your family then give it to Dawn L4 State? L5 Mr. Kwok: Yes L6 Official interpreter: Yes L7 Private interpreter: I don't think, I thought that it was… L8 Ms Claiborn: Let's start over. I don't think it was the question, because it didn't L9 involve Dawn State. So I am going to start over. L10 Private interpreter: Yes… L11 Ms Claiborn: Where did you get the money to give to Ace Decade, the 500 million? L12 Mr. Baldiga: I don't think he said he did that. I think he said his family did that. L13 But you can ask that. But I… L14 Official interpreter: The question is, Ace Decade get the money the 500 L15 million from where? L16 Mr. Kwok: From the family. L17 Official interpreter: From my family. L18 Ms Claiborn: Who specifically in the family gave you the money then you gave to L19 Ace Decade? L20 Official interpreter: Who in your family gave you the money then you gave to Ace L21 Decade? L22 Mr. Kwok: One of the persons called John Way. L23 Official interpreter: John Way? OK. John Way. L24 Ms Claiborn: Who is John Way? L25 Official interpreter: Who is John Way? L26 Mr. Kwok: A member of our family. L27 Official interpreter: A member from my family. L28 Ms Claiborn: Is he a relative of yours? L29 Official interpreter: Is he a relative of yours? L30 Mr. Kwok: A son-in-law of my older brother. L31 Official interpreter: It's my older brother's cousin or – L32 Private interpreter: Son-in-law L33 Official interpreter: Son-in-law, okay. L34 Ms Claiborn: On your Schedule A-B,\n\nL35 Official interpreter: On your Schedule A-B, the tax return,\n\n## *63*\n\n*4*\n\n*63*\n\n| L1 | Ms Claiborn: | you listed a possible malpractice claim against Boise Schiller. |\n|-------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2 | Official interpreter: | she said, on your Schedule A-B, you stated there was a (sort of |\n| L3
L4 | | malpractice, what is it)
negligence
in a case, against the malpractice of
Boise Schiller, the case. |\n| L5 | Official interpreter: | Do you understand? |\n| L6 | Ms Claiborn: | Can you please explain what
that is? |\n| L7 | Official interpreter: | Can you explain what that is? |\n| L8 | Mr. Kwok: | He had represented me in New York
suing UBS. A lawyer |\n| L9 | | representing me. |\n| L10
L11 | Official interpreter: | He was the one –
he was the one represented me in New York to have
a lawsuit against UBS. |\n| L12
L13 | Mr. Kwok: | He, by
himself,
presented a lot of wrong documents
without verifying
them with me first
to the Court. |\n| L14 | Official interpreter: | He gave a lot of false documents to the Court and without my |\n| L15 | | permission. |\n| L16 | Mr. Kwok: | And threatened my family members. |\n| L17 | Official interpreter: | He also threatened my family. |\n| L18 | Mr. Kwok: | And after drinking threaten me myself. |\n| L19 | Official interpreter: | He also threaten myself after drinking. |\n| L20 | Mr. Kwok: | And he brought
huge loss to us. |\n| L21 | Official interpreter: | He brought
a lot of loss to us. |\n| L22
L23
L24 | Mr. Kwok: | Including not seriously
explain
to me about what
documents
ought to
be presented to the judge, particularly the documents with Chinese
and English translations. |\n| L25 | Official interpreter: | Including providing any English/Chinese translated documents |\n| L26 | | to
me
before present them to the –
to the lawyer, or to the judge. |\n| L27 | Mr. Kwok: | That is why we
sued him. |\n| L28 | Official interpreter: | That's why I
–
we sued him. |\n| L29 | Ms Claiborn: | Have you hired an attorney to represent you in that malpractice |\n| L30 | | action? |\n| L31 | Official interpreter: | Have you hired an attorney to sue him
in this case of malpractice? |\n| L32 | Mr. Kwok: | My son is dealing with it. |\n| L33 | Official interpreter: | My son is in the process of dealing with it. |\n| L34 | Ms Claiborn: | Why is your son talking to lawyers about your malpractice claim? |\n| L35 | Official interpreter: | Why
is your son dealing with this malpractice case? |\n\n| L1
Mr.
Kwok: | I need to borrow money from him. |\n|-------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2
Official interpreter: | Because I need to borrow money from him. |\n| L3
Ms Claiborn: | Has a lawyer been selected? |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | Has a lawyer been selected? |\n| L5
Mr. Kwok: | Not yet. |\n| L6
Official interpreter: | Not yet. |\n| L7
Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you own an interest in any company aside from Ace |\n| L8 | Decade? |\n| L9
Official interpreter:
L10 | Mr. Kwok, aside from Ace Decade, do you own any interest in other
companies? |\n| L11
Mr. Kwok: | No. But –
I need to say but -- |\n| L12
Official interpreter: | No. But |\n| L13
Mr. Kwok:
L14 | Bravo Luck under my name just for several months. I held 50% of the
company
shares in that
several months. |\n| L15
Official interpreter: | Bravo Luck? |\n| L16
Mr. Kwok: | Bravo Luck, the holding company of the Sherry Netherland, the |\n| L17 | apartment in New York. |\n| L18
Official interpreter: | Bravo Luck? |\n| L19
Mr. Kwok:
L20
L21 | Bravo Luck. Just say
the name in English,
Bravo Luck. It was the
holding company of the 50% controlling interest
of the apartment in
New York. I held it for a short time, a few months. |\n| L22
Official interpreter:
L23 | I own the Bravo Luck, the apartment, only for a few months, some of
the interest. |\n| L24
Mr. Kwok:
L25 | After the purchase of the apartment, they
were returned. The interest
was returned to my son. |\n| L26
Official interpreter: | After the sale? |\n| L27
Mr. Kwok:
L28 | Not sell. After the purchase. Because it was my name used in the
purchase
of the apartment. Because it was a co-op. So they |\n| L29
L30 | recommended using
my name
in the purchase. After the purchase, the
controlling interest was returned to my son. |\n| L31
Official interpreter:
L32 | And because the apartment is a co-op, so they used my name to buy
the apartment after I –
after we bought apartment, and then we |\n| L33 | returned the stock interest back. |\n| L34
Unidentified speaker:
L35 | I'm sorry. He must have spoken for 30,
40 seconds. Clearly said more
than that. Is there a more fulsome
translation? |\n| L36
Official
interpreter | Did I miss anything? |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22 Entered 11/11/22 13:18:26 Page 7 of\n\n11\n\n| L1
Ms
Claiborn: | Let me see if I can follow
up. Mr. Kwok, do you own, currently, an |\n|-------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2 | interest in Bravo Luck? |\n| L3
Official
interpreter: | She said, do you own any interest in Bravo Luck now? |\n| L4
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L5
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L6
Ms. Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you own an interest in any limited liability company? |\n| L7
Official interpreter: | Mr. Kwok, do you own any interest in any limited liability company? |\n| L8
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L9
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L10
Ms
Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you currently
own any interest in any partnership? |\n| L11
Official interpreter: | Do you own any interest in any of
the
(partnership in English?) |\n| L12
Private interpreter: | Partnership (in Chinese) |\n| L13
Official interpreter: | Partnership |\n| L14
Mr. Kwok:
L15
L16 | Wait. I said no
a moment ago. Once I had
a big aircraft company \"Y
Orange\"
and
another one called \"Shiny Time\". They closed down
now. I had them at one time. |\n| L17
Official interpreter: | \"Orange\"? |\n| L18
Mr. Kwok:
L19
L20 | Called \"Y Orange\". I can't
be sure about the English either. And the
one was called \"Shiny Time\". That was before. They are no longer in
my hand. |\n| L21
Official interpreter:
L22 | I used to own the plane company called the Orange or Shiny Time, but
that was before and doesn't exist anymore. |\n| L23
Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you currently own an interest in any partnership? |\n| L24
Official interpreter: | Do you currently own any interest in partnership companies? |\n| L25
Mr. Kowk: | No. |\n| L26
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L27
Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you currently own an interest in any joint venture? |\n| L28
Official interpreter: | Do you
currently own any interest in any (joint venture?) |\n| L29
Private interpreter: | Joint venture (in Chinese) |\n| L30
Official interpreter: | Joint venture business. |\n| L31
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L32
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L33
Ms
Claiborn:
L34 | Other than Ace Decade, do you own an interest in any other company
right now? |\n| L35
Official interpreter: | Apart
from owning Ace Decade, do you also own other companies? |\n\n| 8 |\n|---|\n| |\n\n| | | 11 | 8 |\n|-------------------|--------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---|\n| L1 | Mr. Kwok: | I once owned Wild Orange and Shiny Time. But not anymore | |\n| L2 | | currently. | |\n| L3 | Official interpreter: | No. I only owned the Orange and Shiny Time before, but not | |\n| L4 | | right
now. | |\n| L5
L6 | Ms Claiborn: | Does Golden Spring New York have a security interest in any of your
litigation? | |\n| L7 | Official interpreter: | Does Golden
Spring New York have
any interest in your litigations? | |\n| L8 | Mr. Kwok: | I owed them money. | |\n| L9 | Official interpreter: | I owed them money. | |\n| L10
L11 | Ms Claiborn: | Have you granted to Golden Spring New York, any interest in any of
your assets, anything that you own | |\n| L12 | Official interpreter: | Did you gift to Golden Spring
New York any of your property assets? | |\n| L13 | Mr. Kwok: | No. | |\n| L14 | Official interpreter: | No. | |\n| L15
L16
L17 | Ms Claiborn: | So if you were to win a lawsuit against Golden Spring –
sorry. Wrong
name. So if you were to win a lawsuit against UBS, would any of the
money that you win have to be paid to Golden Spring? | |\n| L18
L19 | Official interpreter: | If you were to win the case against UBS, the money you won,
would
the money need to be paid back to Golden Spring? | |\n| L20 | Mr. Kwok: | Yes. | |\n| L21 | Official interpreter: | Yes. | |\n| L22 | Ms Claiborn: | And how much would that be? | |\n| L23 | Official interpreter: | How much would that be? | |\n| L24 | Mr. Kwok: | Before it was \\$21 million.
Adding now is
\\$28 million. Roughly | |\n| L25 | | around \\$30 million. | |\n| L26 | Official interpreter: | Before it was 2200, 1 million? | |\n| | L27 Private interpreter: | 21 million | |\n| L28 | Official interpreter: | 21
million? | |\n| L29 | Official
interpreter: | 21 million and plus now. Probably it's about 300 million. | |\n| L30 | Mr. Kwok: | 30 million | |\n| L31 | Official interpreter: | 30 million. Oh, 30 million. Yeah. | |\n| L32
L33 | Ms Claiborn: | Is there a document that says that any litigation winnings you receive
need to be paid to Golden Spring? | |\n| L34 | Official interpreter: | Is there any document written down
stated that any winning from | |\n| L35 | | other litigations would need to pay back Golden Spring New York? | |\n\n| Case 22-50073
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Mr. Kwok: | Yes. |\n| L2
Official interpreter: | Yes. |\n| L3
Ms
Claiborn: | What is the name of the document? |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | What is the name of the document? |\n| L5
Mr. Kwok:
L6 | It would
be that in DC, there had been
a
litigation against a
law firm
who represented
my case of political asylum
application. |\n| L7
Official interpreter: | I'm going to ask him to repeat it. |\n| L8
Official interpreter: | Can you repeat? |\n| L9
Mr. Kwok:
L10
L11 | I had an immigration law firm in DC representing me in my case of
political asylum
application. I sued them. There was such
a litigation.
Let's stop here. Next would be
the source of money funding that |\n| L12 | litigation. If
that case were
won, the money would need to return to |\n| L13 | Golden Spring. |\n| L14
Official interpreter: | I didn't get it. I just ask him to break it down. |\n| L15
Mr. Kwok: | I have a litigation case
in DC. |\n| L16
Official interpreter: | I have a case in DC. |\n| L17
Mr. Kwok:
L18 | It was against a law firm who represented me
in my case of political
asylum in the past. |\n| L19
Official interpreter: | There is a attorney office representing me for political asylum. |\n| L20
Mr. Kwok:
L21
L22 | The firm was hacked by the Chinese Communist Party. Their office
was closed down. They gave my personal information to the Chinese
Communist Party. |\n| L23
Official interpreter: | And it was attacked by the cyber attack from the Chinese |\n| L24
L25 | Communists, and so they –
the attorney office was closed, and they
gave my personal information to the communist party. |\n| L26
Mr. Kwok: | Then I sued them. |\n| L27
Official interpreter: | And then
I sued them. |\n| L28
Mr. Kwok:
L29 | The money funding the lawyers in this case came from Golden Spring
too. |\n| L30
Official interpreter:
L31 | And that litigation
fee, attorney fee, came from Golden Spring New
York. |\n| L32
Mr. Kwok: | If I won the case, I sued them for a claim of \\$50 million, |\n\nL33 Official interpreter: I asked for a settlement of \\$50000, \\$50 million if I won the money.\n\n| L34
Mr. Kwok:
L35 | I would need to pay Golden Spring back for the money they funded
the litigation. |\n|-----------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L36
Official interpreter | I will give the money back to Golden Springs for the money they |\n| L37 | supported
me for the attorney's fees. |\n\n*10* L1 Private interpreter Mr. Kwok did not say settlement. Mr. Kwok only said it was a claim, L2 not settlement. Case 22-50073 Doc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22 Entered 11/11/22 13:18:26 Page 10 of 11\n\n-END -\n\nI, Una Wilkinson, hereby certify that I, to my knowledge and with the best of my abilities , fully and accurately, translated and transcribed the audio file [1002.mp3] from time marked 1:53:00 to 2:16:51, from Chinese/English into English which appeared from page one to page 10 of this document.\n\nDate: 30 September 2022\n\nSignature of Translator & Transcriber Una Wilkinson Independent Court Certified Per Diem Interpreter in Mandarin and Cantonese New York State Unified Court System Court ID 1000037126\n\n Case 22-50073 Doc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22 Entered 11/11/22 13:18:26 Page 11 of","body_zh":"Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）听证会录音文字稿，音频时间标记自 1:53:00 至 2:16:51\n\n*59 9 9*\n\n克莱伯恩女士：持有该支票的律师叫什么名字？\n\n法庭指定口译员：持有$12000支票的律师叫什么名字？\n\n郭先生：我无法说出该律师的全名。\n\n法庭指定口译员：我无法完整地念出该律师的姓名。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：该律师的名字是什么？\n\n法庭指定口译员：该律师的名字是什么？\n\n郭先生：我同样无法就那样念出来。\n\n法庭指定口译员：我不能——我无法读出——念出他的名字。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：持有该支票的律师，是否就是在那宗诉讼中代理您的同一名律师？\n\n法庭指定口译员：持有该支票的律师，是否就是在那宗诉讼中代理您的同一名律师？\n\n郭先生：可能是。\n\n法庭指定口译员：应该是。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：在您的附表A-B上，\n\n法庭指定口译员：在您的附表A-B上，\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您未披露该$12,000支票。\n\n法庭指定口译员：在附表A-B上，您没有说明该$12,000支票。\n\n郭先生：它没有……\n\n克莱伯恩女士：为什么？\n\nBaldiga先生：等问题问完。不。您能翻译吗？\n\n法庭指定口译员：等她问完问题。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您为什么没有披露该$12,000支票？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您为什么没有申报该$12,000支票款项？\n\n郭先生：我的律师认为，由于这笔钱不在我的账户中，我不被允许披露它。\n\n法庭指定口译员：我的律师认为，因为这笔钱不在我的账户中，所以我不被允许——我们不——我不应当披露它。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：好的。郭先生，您有任何专利吗？\n\n法庭指定口译员：郭先生，您有任何专利吗？\n\n郭先生：专利？没有。\n\n法庭指定口译员：没有。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您有任何版权吗？\n\n债务人证物A\n\n法庭指定口译员：您有任何版权吗（以英语），这叫什么？\n\n私人口译员：版权（以中文）。\n\n法庭指定口译员：对，版权（以中文）。\n\n郭先生：版权？没有。\n\n法庭指定口译员：没有。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您拥有任何种类的知识产权吗？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您有任何智力种类的……\n\n私人口译员：知识产权（以中文）。\n\n法庭指定口译员：对，知识产权（以中文）。您有任何知识产权吗？\n\n郭先生：知识产权？没有。\n\n法庭指定口译员：没有。\n\nBaldiga先生：对不起。Holley，我不确定您是否会回到这个问题，但有一处提及$12,000。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：我确实看到了。\n\nBaldiga先生：哦，您说他没有披露它。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：他没有。该事项未在附表A-B的问题答复中出现。\n\nBaldiga先生：就在那儿。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：我们可以就其是否已被披露持不同意见。我理解您可能采取不同立场。\n\n法庭指定口译员：他说这里有$12000。但是Holley认为它没有被申报，每个人都有自己的立场。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：郭先生，您是否拥有一家名为Ace Decade Holdings Limited（艾斯十年控股有限公司）的公司的任何权益？\n\n法庭指定口译员：她问，您是否拥有一家名为Ace Decade Holdings Limited的公司的任何权益？\n\n郭先生：是。\n\n法庭指定口译员：是。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您在Ace Decade Holdings Limited中的所有权权益性质为何？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您在其中的权益是什么种类的权益？\n\n郭先生：我拥有就UBS（瑞银）$500 million诉讼提出索赔的权益。\n\n法庭指定口译员：因此，我拥有要求UBS返还$500 million的权益。就是那种权益。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您是否是Ace Decade Holdings Limited唯一的合法所有人？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您是否是唯一的——您能重复一下问题吗？\n\n*61*\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您是否是Ace Decade Holdings Limited唯一的合法所有人？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您是否是Ace Decade Holdings Limited唯一的合法所有人？\n\n郭先生：我在法律上代表该所有人。\n\n法庭指定口译员：我是一名法律代表所有人。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：Ace Decade是否有其他所有人？\n\n法庭指定口译员：还有其他所有人吗？Ace Decade的所有人？\n\n郭先生：没有。\n\n法庭指定口译员：没有。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您何时成为Ace Decade Holdings Limited的所有人？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您何时成为Ace Decade Holdings Limited的所有人？\n\n郭先生：2014年底。\n\n法庭指定口译员：2014年底。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：这是一个很长的问题。在您于伦敦对UBS提起的诉讼中，\n\n法庭指定口译员：在您于伦敦对UBS提起的诉讼中，\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您是个人原告。\n\n法庭指定口译员：您是唯一的原告。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您作为个人原告提出索赔的依据是什么？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您为什么是唯一的原告？您的依据是什么？\n\n郭先生：因为我是Ace Decade公司的100%代表。\n\n法庭指定口译员：因为我是Ace Decade的100%代表。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：在伦敦对UBS提起的诉讼中，\n\n法庭指定口译员：在伦敦对UBS提起的诉讼中，\n\n克莱伯恩女士：有一项指称称，Ace Decade向Dawn State Limited（道恩州有限公司）支付了$500 million。\n\n法庭指定口译员：在该诉讼中，Ace Delegation向Dawn Limited支付了（以英语说$500 million，低声嘀咕这用中文是多少）该笔款项……\n\n郭先生：Dawn State。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：Dawn State。\n\n法庭指定口译员：Dawn State。\n\n私人口译员：500 million yuan（以中文）。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：Ace Decade从哪里取得该$500 million？\n\n法庭指定口译员：Ace Decade从哪里取得该$500 million？\n\n郭先生：来自我们家庭的借款。\n\n*61*\n\n法庭指定口译员：我向我的家庭借款。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您是否向您的家庭借钱并将其交给Ace Decade？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您是否向您的家庭借钱，然后交给Dawn State？\n\n郭先生：是。\n\n法庭指定口译员：是。\n\n私人口译员：我不认为，我以为是……\n\n克莱伯恩女士：我们重新开始。我认为那不是问题，因为它并未涉及Dawn State。因此，我要重新开始。\n\n私人口译员：是……\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您从哪里取得交给Ace Decade的500 million款项？\n\nBaldiga先生：我不认为他说过他这样做。我认为他说的是他的家庭这样做。但您可以问这个问题。不过我……\n\n法庭指定口译员：问题是，Ace Decade从哪里取得500 million款项？\n\n郭先生：来自家庭。\n\n法庭指定口译员：来自我的家庭。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：具体是家庭中的谁给了您这笔钱，然后由您交给Ace Decade？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您家庭中的谁给了您这笔钱，然后由您交给Ace Decade？\n\n郭先生：其中一人名叫John Way（约翰·韦）。\n\n法庭指定口译员：John Way？好的。John Way。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：John Way是谁？\n\n法庭指定口译员：John Way是谁？\n\n郭先生：我们家庭的一名成员。\n\n法庭指定口译员：我的家庭的一名成员。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：他是您的亲属吗？\n\n法庭指定口译员：他是您的亲属吗？\n\n郭先生：我哥哥的女婿。\n\n法庭指定口译员：是我哥哥的表亲，或者——\n\n私人口译员：女婿。\n\n法庭指定口译员：女婿，好的。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：在您的附表A-B上，\n\n法庭指定口译员：在您的附表A-B上，税务申报表，\n\n*63*\n\n*4*\n\n*63*\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您列示了一项可能针对Boise Schiller（博伊斯·席勒）的律师执业过失索赔。\n\n法庭指定口译员：她说，在您的附表A-B上，您陈述存在一项（大概是律师执业过失，这叫什么）因Boise Schiller的律师执业过失而产生的过失案件。\n\n法庭指定口译员：您明白吗？\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您能否解释一下那是什么？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您能解释一下那是什么吗？\n\n郭先生：他曾在纽约代理我起诉UBS。他是一名代理我的律师。\n\n法庭指定口译员：他就是——他就是在纽约代理我对UBS提起诉讼的人。\n\n郭先生：他自行向法院提交了许多错误文件，事先未与我核实。\n\n法庭指定口译员：他未经我的许可向法院提交了许多虚假文件。\n\n郭先生：并威胁我的家庭成员。\n\n法庭指定口译员：他还威胁我的家庭。\n\n郭先生：并且在饮酒后威胁我本人。\n\n法庭指定口译员：他还在饮酒后威胁我本人。\n\n郭先生：并给我们带来巨大损失。\n\n法庭指定口译员：他给我们带来了很多损失。\n\n郭先生：包括未认真向我解释应向法官提交哪些文件，尤其是带有中文和英文译文的文件。\n\n法庭指定口译员：包括在向律师或法官提交任何英中文译文文件之前，未将其提供给我。\n\n郭先生：这就是我们起诉他的原因。\n\n法庭指定口译员：这就是我——我们起诉他的原因。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您是否聘请律师在该律师执业过失诉讼中代理您？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您是否聘请律师在这宗律师执业过失案件中起诉他？\n\n郭先生：我儿子正在处理此事。\n\n法庭指定口译员：我儿子正在着手处理此事。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：您的儿子为何就您的律师执业过失索赔与律师交谈？\n\n法庭指定口译员：您的儿子为何在处理这宗律师执业过失案件？\n\n郭先生：我需要向他借钱。\n\n法庭指定口译员：因为我需要向他借钱。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：是否已选定律师？\n\n法庭指定口译员：是否已选定律师？\n\n郭先生：尚未。\n\n法庭指定口译员：尚未。\n\n克莱伯恩女士：郭先生，除Ace Decade外，您是否拥有任何公司的权益？\n\n法庭指定口译员：郭先生，除Ace Decade外，您是否拥有其他公司的任何权益？\n\n郭先生：没有。但是——我需要说但是——\n\n法庭指定口译员：没有。但是。\n\n郭先生：Bravo Luck（布拉沃·拉克）曾以我的名义登记数月。在那几个月中，我持有该公司50%的股份。\n\n法庭指定口译员：Bravo Luck？\n\n郭先生：Bravo Luck，即纽约Sherry Netherland（谢里·内瑟兰）公寓的控股公司。\n\n法庭指定口译员：Bravo Luck？\n\n郭先生：Bravo Luck。只需用英语说这个名称，Bravo Luck。它是持有纽约该公寓50%控股权益的公司。我仅持有了很短时间，数月。\n\n法庭指定口译员：我拥有Bravo Luck，即该公寓，仅数月，拥有部分权益。\n\n郭先生：购得该公寓后，该等权益被返还给我儿子。\n\n法庭指定口译员：出售后？\n\n郭先生：不是出售。购得后。因为购买该公寓时使用的是我的名字。因为它是合作公寓。因此，他们建议在购买时使用我的名字。购买后，控股权益被返还给我儿子。\n\n法庭指定口译员：并且因为该公寓是合作公寓，所以他们使用我的名字购买该公寓；在我——在我们购买公寓后，我们又将股份权益返还。\n\n身份不明的发言人：对不起。他一定说了30、40秒。显然说的不止这些。是否有更完整的翻译？\n\n法庭指定口译员：我漏掉什么了吗？\n\n案号22-50073，文件1082-1，提交日期11/11/22，登记日期11/11/22 13:18:26，第7页，共\n\n克莱伯恩女士：让我看看能否继续追问。郭先生，您目前是否拥有一项……\n\nL2 持有 Bravo Luck（布拉沃·拉克）的任何权益吗？\nL3\n官方口译员： 她说，您现在是否持有 Bravo Luck 的任何权益？\nL4\n郭先生： 没有。\nL5\n官方口译员： 没有。\nL6\nClaiborn 女士（克莱伯恩女士）： 郭先生，您是否持有任何有限责任公司的权益？\nL7\n官方口译员： 郭先生，您是否持有任何有限责任公司的任何权益？\nL8\n郭先生： 没有。\nL9\n官方口译员： 没有。\nL10\nClaiborn\n女士： 郭先生，您目前是否\n持有任何合伙企业的任何权益？\nL11\n官方口译员： 您是否持有任何\n（合伙企业，英语？）的任何权益？\nL12\n私人口译员： 合伙企业（中文）\nL13\n官方口译员： 合伙企业\nL14\n郭先生：\nL15\nL16 等一下。我刚才说没有。我曾经有一家大型飞机公司“Y Orange（Y奥兰治）”\n以及\n另一家名为“Shiny Time（闪耀时代）”的公司。它们现在都已关闭。\n我曾一度拥有它们。\nL17\n官方口译员： “Orange（奥兰治）”？\nL18\n郭先生：\nL19\nL20 叫作“Y Orange”。我也不能确定其英文名称。另一家\n叫作“Shiny Time”。那是以前的事了。它们已经不在\n我手中了。\nL21\n官方口译员：\nL22 我过去拥有一家名为 Orange 或 Shiny Time 的飞机公司，但\n那是以前的事，现在已经不存在了。\nL23\nClaiborn 女士： 郭先生，您目前是否持有任何合伙企业的任何权益？\nL24\n官方口译员： 您目前是否持有任何合伙企业的任何权益？\nL25\n郭先生： 没有。\nL26\n官方口译员： 没有。\nL27\nClaiborn 女士： 郭先生，您目前是否持有任何合资企业的任何权益？\nL28\n官方口译员： 您\n目前是否持有任何（合资企业？）的任何权益？\nL29\n私人口译员： 合资企业（中文）\nL30\n官方口译员： 合资企业。\nL31\n郭先生： 没有。\nL32\n官方口译员： 没有。\nL33\nClaiborn\n女士：\nL34 除 Ace Decade（艾斯十年）外，您现在是否持有任何其他公司的\n权益？\nL35\n官方口译员： 除拥有 Ace Decade 外，您是否还拥有其他公司？\n11 8\n\nL1 郭先生： 我曾拥有 Wild Orange（野生奥兰治）和 Shiny Time。但目前不再拥有\nL2 了。\nL3 官方口译员： 没有。我以前只拥有 Orange 和 Shiny Time，但现\nL4 在没有。\nL5\nL6 Claiborn 女士： Golden Spring New York（纽约金泉）是否对您的任何\n诉讼享有担保权益？\nL7 官方口译员： Golden\nSpring New York 是否对\n您的诉讼享有任何权益？\nL8 郭先生： 我欠他们钱。\nL9 官方口译员： 我欠他们钱。\nL10\nL11 Claiborn 女士： 您是否向 Golden Spring New York 授予了对您任何\n资产、您拥有的任何东西的任何权益？\nL12 官方口译员： 您是否向 Golden Spring\nNew York 赠与了您的任何财产资产？\nL13 郭先生： 没有。\nL14 官方口译员： 没有。\nL15\nL16\nL17 Claiborn 女士： 那么，如果您赢得针对 Golden Spring 的诉讼——\n抱歉，名字错了。那么，如果您赢得针对 UBS（瑞银集团）的诉讼，您\n赢得的任何款项是否必须支付给 Golden Spring？\nL18\nL19 官方口译员： 如果您赢得针对 UBS 的案件，您赢得的款项，\n是否\n需要偿还给 Golden Spring？\nL20 郭先生： 是。\nL21 官方口译员： 是。\nL22 Claiborn 女士： 那会是多少？\nL23 官方口译员： 那会是多少？\nL24 郭先生： 此前是 \\$21 million。\n现在加上的是\n\\$28 million。大约\nL25 在 \\$30 million 左右。\nL26 官方口译员： 此前是 2200，1 million？\nL27 私人口译员： 21 million\nL28 官方口译员： 21\nmillion？\nL29 官方\n口译员： 21 million，加上现在的。可能大约是 300 million。\nL30 郭先生： 30 million\nL31 官方口译员： 30 million。哦，30 million。是。\nL32\nL33 Claiborn 女士： 是否有一份文件说明，您收到的任何诉讼胜诉款项\n需要支付给 Golden Spring？\nL34 官方口译员： 是否有任何书面文件\n载明，任何\n其他诉讼的胜诉款项都需要偿还给 Golden Spring New York？\n\nCase 22-50073\nDoc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22\nEntered 11/11/22 13:18:26\n\nL1\n郭先生： 是。\nL2\n官方口译员： 是。\nL3\nClaiborn\n女士： 该文件的名称是什么？\nL4\n官方口译员： 该文件的名称是什么？\nL5\n郭先生：\nL6 那应当是\n在 DC（哥伦比亚特区），曾有一项针对一家\n代表我办理政治庇护\n申请案件的律师事务所的诉讼。\nL7\n官方口译员： 我要请他重复一遍。\nL8\n官方口译员： 您能重复一下吗？\nL9\n郭先生：\nL10\nL11 我有一家位于 DC 的移民律师事务所，曾在我的\n政治庇护申请案件中代理我。我起诉了他们。有这样\n一项诉讼。先说到这里。接下来是\n资助该\n诉讼的资金来源。如果\n该案胜诉，\n款项需要返还给\nGolden Spring。\nL12\nL13\nL14\n官方口译员： 我没有听明白。我只是请他分开说。\nL15\n郭先生： 我在 DC 有一项诉讼案件。\nL16\n官方口译员： 我在 DC 有一个案件。\nL17\n郭先生：\nL18 该案是针对一家过去曾在我的政治\n庇护案件中代理我的律师事务所。\nL19\n官方口译员： 有一家律师事务所代理我的政治庇护案件。\nL20\n郭先生：\nL21\nL22 该事务所遭到中国共产党的黑客攻击。他们的办公室\n关闭了。他们把我的个人信息交给了中国\n共产党。\nL23\n官方口译员： 而且它遭到了来自中国\nL24\nL25 共产党的网络攻击，因此他们——\n该律师事务所关闭了，他们\n把我的个人信息交给了共产党。\nL26\n郭先生： 随后我起诉了他们。\nL27\n官方口译员： 然后\n我起诉了他们。\nL28\n郭先生：\nL29 资助本案律师费用的款项也来自 Golden Spring。\nL30\n官方口译员：\nL31 该项诉讼\n费用、律师费，来自 Golden Spring New\nYork。\nL32\n郭先生： 如果我赢得该案，我向他们主张 \\$50 million，\n\nL33 官方口译员：我要求 \\$50000 的和解，若我赢得款项，则为 \\$50 million。\n\nL34\n郭先生：\nL35 我需要偿还 Golden Spring 资助\n该诉讼的款项。\n\nL36\n官方口译员 我将把钱还给 Golden Springs，以偿还他们为我的律师费\nL37 提供的\n资助。\n\n*10* L1 私人口译员 郭先生没有说“和解”。郭先生只说这是一个主张，L2 并非和解。Case 22-50073 Doc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22 Entered 11/11/22 13:18:26 Page 10 of 11\n\n—结束—\n\n本人 Una Wilkinson（乌娜·威尔金森）在此证明，据本人所知并尽本人最大能力，本人已完整、准确地将音频文件 [1002.mp3] 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