{"id":"court_ctb_1082_1","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":1082,"sub_number":1,"doc_type":"UNKNOWN","filed_date":"2022-11-11","title":"Transcription of Ho Wan Kwok Hearing from Audio Time Mark from 1:53:00 to 2:16:51","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"Transcription of Ho Wan Kwok Hearing from Audio Time Mark from 1:53:00 to 2:16:51\n\n*59 9 9*\n\n| L1
Ms Claiborn: | What is the name of the attorney holding the check? |\n|-------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2
Official interpreter: | What is the name of the attorney holding the \\$12000 check? |\n| L3
Mr. Kwok: | I am not able to tell
the full name of the attorney. |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | I can't pronounce the attorney's name completely. |\n| L5
Ms Claiborn: | What is the attorney's first name? |\n| L6
Official
interpreter: | What is the attorney's first name? |\n| L7
Mr. Kwok: | I am also unable to pronounce it just like that. |\n| L8
Official interpreter: | I cannot –
I'm not able to read out the –
to pronounce his name. |\n| L9
Ms Claiborn: | Is the attorney who's holding the check the same attorney who |\n| L10 | represented you in that lawsuit? |\n| L11
Official interpreter: | Is the attorney who's holding the check the same attorney who |\n| L12 | represented you in that lawsuit? |\n| L13
Mr. Kwok: | Could be. |\n| L14 Official interpreter: | It should be. |\n| L15
Ms Claiborn: | On your Schedule A-B, |\n| L16
Official interpreter: | On your Schedule A-B, |\n| L17
Ms Claiborn: | you did not disclose that \\$12,000 check. |\n| L18
Official interpreter: | On the
Schedule A-B, you did not tell the \\$12,000 check. |\n| L19
Mr. Kwok: | It did not… |\n| L20
Ms Claiborn: | Why? |\n| L21
Mr. Baldiga: | Wait for the question. No. Can you interpret that? |\n| L22
Official interpreter: | Wait until she finished the question. |\n| L23
Ms Claiborn: | Why did you not disclose that \\$12,000 check? |\n| L24
Official interpreter: | Why did you not report the \\$12,000 check the money? |\n| L25
Mr. Kwok:
L26 | My attorney thought that since the money was not in my account, I
was not allowed to. |\n| L27
Official interpreter:
L28 | My attorney thinks because the money is not in my account, so I'm
not allowed to –we're not –
I'm not supposed to disclose that. |\n| L29
Ms Claiborn: | Okay. Mr. Kwok, do you have any patents? |\n| L30
Official interpreter: | Mr. Kwok, do you have any patents? |\n| L31
Mr. Kwok: | Patents?
No. |\n| L32
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L33
Ms Claiborn: | Do you have any copyrights? |\n\n**Debtor's Exhibit A**\n\n| L1 | Official interpreter: | Do you have any copyrights (in English), what is it called? |\n|------------|-----------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2 | Private interpreter: | Copyright (in Chinese). |\n| L3 | Official interpreter: | Right, Copyright (in Chinese). |\n| L4 | Mr. Kwok: | Copyright? No. |\n| L5 | Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L6 | Ms Claiborn: | Do you have any intellectual property of any kind? |\n| L7 | Official interpreter: | Do you have any intelligence kind of… |\n| L8 | Private interpreter: | Intellectual property (in Chinese). |\n| L9 | Official interpreter: | Right, Intellectual Property (in Chinese). Do you have any |\n| L10 | | Intellectual Property Right? |\n| L11 | Mr. Kwok: | Intellectual Property Right? No. |\n| L12 | Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L13
L1 | Mr. Baldiga: | Excuse me. Holley, I'm not sure if you're going to come back to it,
but there is a reference to the \\$12,000 |\n| L12 | Ms. Claiborn: | I did see that. |\n| L13 | Mr. Baldiga: | Oh, you said he did not disclose it. |\n| L14 | Ms. Claiborn: | He did not. It's not in response to the questions on Schedule A-B. |\n| L15 | Mr. Baldiga: | It's right there. |\n| L16
L17 | Ms. Claiborn: | We can disagree
about whether
or not it's disclosed. I understand you
might take a different position. |\n| L18
L19 | Official interpreter: | He
said here was the \\$12000. But Holley did not think it was reported
and everyone has their own position. |\n| L20
L21 | Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you own any interest in a company called Ace Decade
Holdings Limited? |\n| L22
L23 | Official interpreter: | She said, do you have any interest in a company called Ace Decade
Holdings Limited? |\n| L24 | Mr. Kwok: | Yes. |\n| L25 | Official interpreter: | Yes. |\n| L26
L27 | Ms Claiborn: | What is the nature of your ownership interest in Ace Decade Holdings
Limited? |\n| L28 | Official interpreter: | Your interest in there is what kind of interest? |\n| L29 | Mr. Kwok: | I have the interest to make a claim to the UBS
\\$500 million
litigation. |\n| L30
L31 | Official interpreter: | So I have the interest
and ask for UBS to pay back \\$500 million. That
kind of interest. |\n| L32 | Ms Claiborn: | Are you the only legal owner of Ace
Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L33 | Official interpreter: | Are you the
only, can you repeat the question? |\n\n*61*\n\n| L34
Ms. Claiborn: | Are you the only legal owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n|------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L35
Official interpreter: | Are you the only legal owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L36
Mr. Kwok: | I am legally representing the owner. |\n| L37
Official interpreter: | I am a legal
representing owner. |\n| L38
Ms Claiborn: | Are there any other owners of Ace Decade? |\n| L39
Official interpreter: | Are there other owners? Owners of
Ace Decade? |\n| L1
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L2
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L3
Ms Claiborn: | When did you become an owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | When did you become an owner of Ace Decade Holdings Limited? |\n| L5
Mr. Kwok: | At the end of 2014 |\n| L6
Official interpreter: | At the end of 2014 |\n| L7
Ms Claiborn: | This is a long question. In your litigation in London against UBS, |\n| L8
Official interpreter: | In your litigation in London against UBS, |\n| L9
Ms Claiborn: | You are an individual plaintiff. |\n| L10
Official interpreter: | You are the only plaintiff. |\n| L11
Ms Claiborn: | What is the basis for your claim
as an individual plaintiff? |\n| L12
Official interpreter: | Why were you the only plaintiff? What was your basis? |\n| L13
Mr. Kwok: | Because I am a 100% representative of the company Ace Decade. |\n| L14
Official interpreter: | Because I'm the 100% representative for Ace Decade. |\n| L15
Ms Claiborn: | In the litigation against
UBS in London, |\n| L16
Official interpreter: | In the litigation against UBS in London, |\n| L17
Ms Claiborn: | there is an allegation that Ace Decade gave \\$500 million to Dawn |\n| L18 | State Limited. |\n| L19
Official interpreter: | In the litigation, Ace Delegation gave (\\$500 million in English, |\n| L20 | muttering how much is that in Chinese)
the money to Dawn |\n| L21 | Limited… |\n| L22
Mr. Kwok: | Dawn State |\n| L23
Ms Claiborn: | Dawn State |\n| L24
Official interpreter: | Dawn State |\n| L25
Private interpreter: | 500 million yuan (in Chinese) |\n| L26
Ms Claiborn: | Where did Ace Decade get the \\$500 million? |\n| L27
Official interpreter: | Where did Ace Decade get the \\$500 million? |\n| L28
Mr. Kwok: | Loan from our
family. |\n\n*61*\n\nL1 Official interpreter: I loan from my family. L2 Ms Claiborn: Did you borrow money from your family and give it to Ace Decade? L3 Official interpreter: Did you borrow the money from your family then give it to Dawn L4 State? L5 Mr. Kwok: Yes L6 Official interpreter: Yes L7 Private interpreter: I don't think, I thought that it was… L8 Ms Claiborn: Let's start over. I don't think it was the question, because it didn't L9 involve Dawn State. So I am going to start over. L10 Private interpreter: Yes… L11 Ms Claiborn: Where did you get the money to give to Ace Decade, the 500 million? L12 Mr. Baldiga: I don't think he said he did that. I think he said his family did that. L13 But you can ask that. But I… L14 Official interpreter: The question is, Ace Decade get the money the 500 L15 million from where? L16 Mr. Kwok: From the family. L17 Official interpreter: From my family. L18 Ms Claiborn: Who specifically in the family gave you the money then you gave to L19 Ace Decade? L20 Official interpreter: Who in your family gave you the money then you gave to Ace L21 Decade? L22 Mr. Kwok: One of the persons called John Way. L23 Official interpreter: John Way? OK. John Way. L24 Ms Claiborn: Who is John Way? L25 Official interpreter: Who is John Way? L26 Mr. Kwok: A member of our family. L27 Official interpreter: A member from my family. L28 Ms Claiborn: Is he a relative of yours? L29 Official interpreter: Is he a relative of yours? L30 Mr. Kwok: A son-in-law of my older brother. L31 Official interpreter: It's my older brother's cousin or – L32 Private interpreter: Son-in-law L33 Official interpreter: Son-in-law, okay. L34 Ms Claiborn: On your Schedule A-B,\n\nL35 Official interpreter: On your Schedule A-B, the tax return,\n\n## *63*\n\n*4*\n\n*63*\n\n| L1 | Ms Claiborn: | you listed a possible malpractice claim against Boise Schiller. |\n|-------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2 | Official interpreter: | she said, on your Schedule A-B, you stated there was a (sort of |\n| L3
L4 | | malpractice, what is it)
negligence
in a case, against the malpractice of
Boise Schiller, the case. |\n| L5 | Official interpreter: | Do you understand? |\n| L6 | Ms Claiborn: | Can you please explain what
that is? |\n| L7 | Official interpreter: | Can you explain what that is? |\n| L8 | Mr. Kwok: | He had represented me in New York
suing UBS. A lawyer |\n| L9 | | representing me. |\n| L10
L11 | Official interpreter: | He was the one –
he was the one represented me in New York to have
a lawsuit against UBS. |\n| L12
L13 | Mr. Kwok: | He, by
himself,
presented a lot of wrong documents
without verifying
them with me first
to the Court. |\n| L14 | Official interpreter: | He gave a lot of false documents to the Court and without my |\n| L15 | | permission. |\n| L16 | Mr. Kwok: | And threatened my family members. |\n| L17 | Official interpreter: | He also threatened my family. |\n| L18 | Mr. Kwok: | And after drinking threaten me myself. |\n| L19 | Official interpreter: | He also threaten myself after drinking. |\n| L20 | Mr. Kwok: | And he brought
huge loss to us. |\n| L21 | Official interpreter: | He brought
a lot of loss to us. |\n| L22
L23
L24 | Mr. Kwok: | Including not seriously
explain
to me about what
documents
ought to
be presented to the judge, particularly the documents with Chinese
and English translations. |\n| L25 | Official interpreter: | Including providing any English/Chinese translated documents |\n| L26 | | to
me
before present them to the –
to the lawyer, or to the judge. |\n| L27 | Mr. Kwok: | That is why we
sued him. |\n| L28 | Official interpreter: | That's why I
–
we sued him. |\n| L29 | Ms Claiborn: | Have you hired an attorney to represent you in that malpractice |\n| L30 | | action? |\n| L31 | Official interpreter: | Have you hired an attorney to sue him
in this case of malpractice? |\n| L32 | Mr. Kwok: | My son is dealing with it. |\n| L33 | Official interpreter: | My son is in the process of dealing with it. |\n| L34 | Ms Claiborn: | Why is your son talking to lawyers about your malpractice claim? |\n| L35 | Official interpreter: | Why
is your son dealing with this malpractice case? |\n\n| L1
Mr.
Kwok: | I need to borrow money from him. |\n|-------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2
Official interpreter: | Because I need to borrow money from him. |\n| L3
Ms Claiborn: | Has a lawyer been selected? |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | Has a lawyer been selected? |\n| L5
Mr. Kwok: | Not yet. |\n| L6
Official interpreter: | Not yet. |\n| L7
Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you own an interest in any company aside from Ace |\n| L8 | Decade? |\n| L9
Official interpreter:
L10 | Mr. Kwok, aside from Ace Decade, do you own any interest in other
companies? |\n| L11
Mr. Kwok: | No. But –
I need to say but -- |\n| L12
Official interpreter: | No. But |\n| L13
Mr. Kwok:
L14 | Bravo Luck under my name just for several months. I held 50% of the
company
shares in that
several months. |\n| L15
Official interpreter: | Bravo Luck? |\n| L16
Mr. Kwok: | Bravo Luck, the holding company of the Sherry Netherland, the |\n| L17 | apartment in New York. |\n| L18
Official interpreter: | Bravo Luck? |\n| L19
Mr. Kwok:
L20
L21 | Bravo Luck. Just say
the name in English,
Bravo Luck. It was the
holding company of the 50% controlling interest
of the apartment in
New York. I held it for a short time, a few months. |\n| L22
Official interpreter:
L23 | I own the Bravo Luck, the apartment, only for a few months, some of
the interest. |\n| L24
Mr. Kwok:
L25 | After the purchase of the apartment, they
were returned. The interest
was returned to my son. |\n| L26
Official interpreter: | After the sale? |\n| L27
Mr. Kwok:
L28 | Not sell. After the purchase. Because it was my name used in the
purchase
of the apartment. Because it was a co-op. So they |\n| L29
L30 | recommended using
my name
in the purchase. After the purchase, the
controlling interest was returned to my son. |\n| L31
Official interpreter:
L32 | And because the apartment is a co-op, so they used my name to buy
the apartment after I –
after we bought apartment, and then we |\n| L33 | returned the stock interest back. |\n| L34
Unidentified speaker:
L35 | I'm sorry. He must have spoken for 30,
40 seconds. Clearly said more
than that. Is there a more fulsome
translation? |\n| L36
Official
interpreter | Did I miss anything? |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22 Entered 11/11/22 13:18:26 Page 7 of\n\n11\n\n| L1
Ms
Claiborn: | Let me see if I can follow
up. Mr. Kwok, do you own, currently, an |\n|-------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L2 | interest in Bravo Luck? |\n| L3
Official
interpreter: | She said, do you own any interest in Bravo Luck now? |\n| L4
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L5
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L6
Ms. Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you own an interest in any limited liability company? |\n| L7
Official interpreter: | Mr. Kwok, do you own any interest in any limited liability company? |\n| L8
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L9
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L10
Ms
Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you currently
own any interest in any partnership? |\n| L11
Official interpreter: | Do you own any interest in any of
the
(partnership in English?) |\n| L12
Private interpreter: | Partnership (in Chinese) |\n| L13
Official interpreter: | Partnership |\n| L14
Mr. Kwok:
L15
L16 | Wait. I said no
a moment ago. Once I had
a big aircraft company \"Y
Orange\"
and
another one called \"Shiny Time\". They closed down
now. I had them at one time. |\n| L17
Official interpreter: | \"Orange\"? |\n| L18
Mr. Kwok:
L19
L20 | Called \"Y Orange\". I can't
be sure about the English either. And the
one was called \"Shiny Time\". That was before. They are no longer in
my hand. |\n| L21
Official interpreter:
L22 | I used to own the plane company called the Orange or Shiny Time, but
that was before and doesn't exist anymore. |\n| L23
Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you currently own an interest in any partnership? |\n| L24
Official interpreter: | Do you currently own any interest in partnership companies? |\n| L25
Mr. Kowk: | No. |\n| L26
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L27
Ms Claiborn: | Mr. Kwok, do you currently own an interest in any joint venture? |\n| L28
Official interpreter: | Do you
currently own any interest in any (joint venture?) |\n| L29
Private interpreter: | Joint venture (in Chinese) |\n| L30
Official interpreter: | Joint venture business. |\n| L31
Mr. Kwok: | No. |\n| L32
Official interpreter: | No. |\n| L33
Ms
Claiborn:
L34 | Other than Ace Decade, do you own an interest in any other company
right now? |\n| L35
Official interpreter: | Apart
from owning Ace Decade, do you also own other companies? |\n\n| 8 |\n|---|\n| |\n\n| | | 11 | 8 |\n|-------------------|--------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---|\n| L1 | Mr. Kwok: | I once owned Wild Orange and Shiny Time. But not anymore | |\n| L2 | | currently. | |\n| L3 | Official interpreter: | No. I only owned the Orange and Shiny Time before, but not | |\n| L4 | | right
now. | |\n| L5
L6 | Ms Claiborn: | Does Golden Spring New York have a security interest in any of your
litigation? | |\n| L7 | Official interpreter: | Does Golden
Spring New York have
any interest in your litigations? | |\n| L8 | Mr. Kwok: | I owed them money. | |\n| L9 | Official interpreter: | I owed them money. | |\n| L10
L11 | Ms Claiborn: | Have you granted to Golden Spring New York, any interest in any of
your assets, anything that you own | |\n| L12 | Official interpreter: | Did you gift to Golden Spring
New York any of your property assets? | |\n| L13 | Mr. Kwok: | No. | |\n| L14 | Official interpreter: | No. | |\n| L15
L16
L17 | Ms Claiborn: | So if you were to win a lawsuit against Golden Spring –
sorry. Wrong
name. So if you were to win a lawsuit against UBS, would any of the
money that you win have to be paid to Golden Spring? | |\n| L18
L19 | Official interpreter: | If you were to win the case against UBS, the money you won,
would
the money need to be paid back to Golden Spring? | |\n| L20 | Mr. Kwok: | Yes. | |\n| L21 | Official interpreter: | Yes. | |\n| L22 | Ms Claiborn: | And how much would that be? | |\n| L23 | Official interpreter: | How much would that be? | |\n| L24 | Mr. Kwok: | Before it was \\$21 million.
Adding now is
\\$28 million. Roughly | |\n| L25 | | around \\$30 million. | |\n| L26 | Official interpreter: | Before it was 2200, 1 million? | |\n| | L27 Private interpreter: | 21 million | |\n| L28 | Official interpreter: | 21
million? | |\n| L29 | Official
interpreter: | 21 million and plus now. Probably it's about 300 million. | |\n| L30 | Mr. Kwok: | 30 million | |\n| L31 | Official interpreter: | 30 million. Oh, 30 million. Yeah. | |\n| L32
L33 | Ms Claiborn: | Is there a document that says that any litigation winnings you receive
need to be paid to Golden Spring? | |\n| L34 | Official interpreter: | Is there any document written down
stated that any winning from | |\n| L35 | | other litigations would need to pay back Golden Spring New York? | |\n\n| Case 22-50073
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Mr. Kwok: | Yes. |\n| L2
Official interpreter: | Yes. |\n| L3
Ms
Claiborn: | What is the name of the document? |\n| L4
Official interpreter: | What is the name of the document? |\n| L5
Mr. Kwok:
L6 | It would
be that in DC, there had been
a
litigation against a
law firm
who represented
my case of political asylum
application. |\n| L7
Official interpreter: | I'm going to ask him to repeat it. |\n| L8
Official interpreter: | Can you repeat? |\n| L9
Mr. Kwok:
L10
L11 | I had an immigration law firm in DC representing me in my case of
political asylum
application. I sued them. There was such
a litigation.
Let's stop here. Next would be
the source of money funding that |\n| L12 | litigation. If
that case were
won, the money would need to return to |\n| L13 | Golden Spring. |\n| L14
Official interpreter: | I didn't get it. I just ask him to break it down. |\n| L15
Mr. Kwok: | I have a litigation case
in DC. |\n| L16
Official interpreter: | I have a case in DC. |\n| L17
Mr. Kwok:
L18 | It was against a law firm who represented me
in my case of political
asylum in the past. |\n| L19
Official interpreter: | There is a attorney office representing me for political asylum. |\n| L20
Mr. Kwok:
L21
L22 | The firm was hacked by the Chinese Communist Party. Their office
was closed down. They gave my personal information to the Chinese
Communist Party. |\n| L23
Official interpreter: | And it was attacked by the cyber attack from the Chinese |\n| L24
L25 | Communists, and so they –
the attorney office was closed, and they
gave my personal information to the communist party. |\n| L26
Mr. Kwok: | Then I sued them. |\n| L27
Official interpreter: | And then
I sued them. |\n| L28
Mr. Kwok:
L29 | The money funding the lawyers in this case came from Golden Spring
too. |\n| L30
Official interpreter:
L31 | And that litigation
fee, attorney fee, came from Golden Spring New
York. |\n| L32
Mr. Kwok: | If I won the case, I sued them for a claim of \\$50 million, |\n\nL33 Official interpreter: I asked for a settlement of \\$50000, \\$50 million if I won the money.\n\n| L34
Mr. Kwok:
L35 | I would need to pay Golden Spring back for the money they funded
the litigation. |\n|-----------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| L36
Official interpreter | I will give the money back to Golden Springs for the money they |\n| L37 | supported
me for the attorney's fees. |\n\n*10* L1 Private interpreter Mr. Kwok did not say settlement. Mr. Kwok only said it was a claim, L2 not settlement. Case 22-50073 Doc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22 Entered 11/11/22 13:18:26 Page 10 of 11\n\n-END -\n\nI, Una Wilkinson, hereby certify that I, to my knowledge and with the best of my abilities , fully and accurately, translated and transcribed the audio file [1002.mp3] from time marked 1:53:00 to 2:16:51, from Chinese/English into English which appeared from page one to page 10 of this document.\n\nDate: 30 September 2022\n\nSignature of Translator & Transcriber Una Wilkinson Independent Court Certified Per Diem Interpreter in Mandarin and Cantonese New York State Unified Court System Court ID 1000037126\n\n Case 22-50073 Doc 1082-1 Filed 11/11/22 Entered 11/11/22 13:18:26 Page 11 of","body_zh":null,"key_entities":["Kwok","Ho Wan Kwok","Chinese Communist Party"],"ecf_references":[],"word_count":3791,"status":"published","published_at":"2022-11-11 00:00:00","created_at":"2022-11-11","updated_at":"2026-07-07 07:47:47"}