{"id":"court_ctb_1200_0","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":1200,"sub_number":0,"doc_type":"ORDER","filed_date":"2022-12-06","title":"UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION In Re \\* Case No. 22-50073 (JAM) \\* HO WAN KW","summary_zh":"庭审记录 —— Ho Wan Kwok 破产案（郭文贵 / Guo Wengui / Miles Guo），CTB 22-50073 ECF #1200（2022-12-06提交）。本文件为2022年11月21日法官 Julie A. Manning 主持的状况会议笔录，各方律师与受托人就判决前救济（PJR）与初步禁令动议的时间表修改方案达成一致，并就联合管理案件的文书案头规范进行了协调与确认。","summary_en":"Status Conference Transcript — In re Ho Wan Kwok (Miles Guo / Guo Wengui), CTB 22-50073, ECF No. 1200 (filed Dec. 6, 2022). This document is the official transcript of the November 21, 2022 status conference before Judge Julie A. Manning regarding the scheduling of the Trustee's application for prejudgment remedy and preliminary injunction, as well as case caption formatting for the jointly administered cases.","body_en":"UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION In Re \\* Case No. 22-50073 (JAM) \\* HO WAN KWOK and GENEVER \\* HOLDINGS CORPORATION, \\* Bridgeport, Connecticut \\* November 21, 2022 Debtor. \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* TRANSCRIPT OF MOTION FOR ORDER and MOTION SETTING STATUS CONFERENCE BEFORE THE HONORABLE JULIE A. MANNING UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY JUDGE APPEARANCES: For the Debtor, Mei Guo and ERIC A. HENZY, ESQ. HK International: Zeisler & Zeisler, P.C. 10 Middle Street, 15th Floor Bridgeport, CT 06604 For the Creditor, Pacific ANNECCA SMITH, ESQ. Alliance Asia Opportunity Robinson & Cole Fund L.P.: 28 Trumbull Street Hartford, CT 06103 STUART SARNOFF, ESQ. PETER FRIEDMAN, ESQ. O'Melveny & Myers LLP Times Square Tower 7 Times Square New York, NY 10036 Chapter 11 Trustee: LUC A. DESPINS, ESQ. Paul Hastings LLP 200 Park Avenue New York, NY 10166 Proceedings recorded by electronic sound recording, transcript produced by transcription service. **Fiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc. 4 Research Drive, Suite 402 Shelton, Connecticut 06484 (203)929-9992**\n\nAPPEARANCES: (Cont'd.) For the Chapter 11 PATRICK R. LINSEY, ESQ. Trustee and Genever, Neubert Pepe & Monteith, PC BVI and Genever U.S.: 195 Church Street New Haven, CT 06510 For the U.S. Trustee: HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN, ESQ. Office of the United States Trustee The Giaimo Federal Building 150 Court Street, Room 302 New Haven, CT 06510 For the Creditors Committee: IRVE GOLDMAN, ESQ. Pullman & Comley 850 Main Street Bridgeport, CT 06601 For Logan Cheng, Creditor: JAY MARSHALL WOLMAN, ESQ. Randazza Legal Group, PLLC 100 Pearl Street Hartford, CT 06103\n\n2\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 3 of 29\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 3 (Proceedings commenced at 2:15 p.m.) THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Case no. 22-50073, Ho Wan Kwok. THE COURT: Good morning. If we could have appearances for the record, starting with the Chapter 11 Trustee, please. MR. DESPINS: Good morning, Your Honor. Luc Despins, Chapter 11 Trustee. THE COURT: Good morning. MR. BASSETT: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Nick Bassett, from Paul Hastings, on behalf of the Chapter 11 Trustee. MR. LINSEY: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Patrick Linsey, Connecticut counsel for the trustee. THE COURT: Good afternoon. And counsel for the debtor? MS. CLAIBORN: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Holley -- oh, sorry. THE COURT: Go ahead, Attorney Claiborn. MS. CLAIBORN: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Holley Claiborn for the U.S. Trustee. THE COURT: Good afternoon. MR. GOLDMAN: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Irve Goldman, Pullman and Comley, representing the creditors committee.\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 4 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
4 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | THE COURT:
Counsel for the debtor, please. |\n| 2 | MR. HENZY:
Eric Henzy, of Zeisler and Zeisler, |\n| 3 | for the debtor. |\n| 4 | MR. KINDSETH:
Stephen Kindseth, also of Zeisler |\n| 5 | and Zeisler, for the debtor. |\n| 6 | MR. MORIARTY:
James Moriarty, Zeisler and |\n| 7 | Zeisler, for the debtor as well as -- since we're going to |\n| 8 | be discussing the PJR, Ms. Guo and HK USA. |\n| 9 | THE COURT:
Okay.
Good afternoon.
Counsel for |\n| 10 | PAX. |\n| 11 | MR. FRIEDMAN:
Peter Friedman, Your Honor, from |\n| 12 | O'Melveny and Myers, on behalf of PAX. |\n| 13 | MR. SARNOFF:
Stuart Sarnoff, from O'Melveny and |\n| 14 | Myers, on behalf of PAX. |\n| 15 | MS. SMITH:
Annecca Robinson and Cole, also on |\n| 16 | behalf of PAX as Connecticut counsel. |\n| 17 | THE COURT:
Good afternoon.
And then counsel for |\n| 18 | the creditor, Mr. Cheng. |\n| 19 | MR. WOLMAN:
Good afternoon, Your Honor.
Jay |\n| 20 | Wolman, of Randazza Legal Group, for creditor, Logan Cheng. |\n| 21 | THE COURT:
Okay.
Good afternoon. |\n| 22 | So on the calendar today is a status conference |\n| 23 | and I see, Trustee Despins, that you filed an agenda for the |\n| 24 | status conference.
So you go right ahead and proceed with |\n| 25 | your agenda, please. |\n| | |\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
5 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | MR. DESPINS:
Thank you, Your Honor. |\n| 2 | The first item on the agenda is a modification -- |\n| 3 | a propose modification, because that's subject to Your |\n| 4 | Honor's availability, but the proposed modification for the |\n| 5 | schedule regarding the trustee's application seeking pre |\n| 6 | preliminary judgment remedy and also a preliminary |\n| 7 | injunction. |\n| 8 | The parties -- meaning the parties, the trustee |\n| 9 | and the debtors and Hong Kong -- a company called Hong Kong, |\n| 10 | Inc., the debtor's daughter, all counsel have conferred |\n| 11 | regarding a proposed modified schedule, which would be -- |\n| 12 | and we were told there is an agreement on this as follows. |\n| 13 | Mr. Moriarty can correct me if I got this wrong, |\n| 14 | but the objection memorandum of law to be filed by the other |\n| 15 | side of the trustee -- so there's a number of parties there, |\n| 16 | but, you know, Hong Kong, Ms. Guo, would be filed on the |\n| 17 | 22nd of November, tomorrow, by 5:00 p.m. |\n| 18 | They could file one consolidated memorandum that |\n| 19 | would exceed the page limit.
That would be 35 pages total. |\n| 20 | The witness and exhibit list would be exchanged by the |\n| 21 | parties by tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. as well. |\n| 22 | Depositions would take place between December 1st |\n| 23 | and December 7th.
Supplemental exhibit list and rebuttal |\n| 24 | experts would be filed by December 8th.
And the hearing, of |\n| 25 | course, subject to Your Honor's availability, would commence |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 6 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
6 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | on December 12th, with the same time lag with respect to the |\n| 2 | accounts that's frozen that applied now. |\n| 3 | So I forget exactly the number of days, but it |\n| 4 | would be -- we would mirror that time lag in the new |\n| 5 | situation regarding the timing of the litigation of this |\n| 6 | matter. |\n| 7 | I believe that's the agreement but Mr. Moriarty |\n| 8 | can correct me if I got this wrong. |\n| 9 | MR. MORIARTY:
That's correct, Your Honor. |\n| 10 | Counsel discussed this on Friday and over the weekend. |\n| 11 | We recognize the court's frustration with how the contempt |\n| 12 | hearing went, and based on the length of that hearing we |\n| 13 | thought it would be in everybody's interest if we did not |\n| 14 | try to jam this PJR and injunction hearing, which is |\n| 15 | scheduled for three days, and we still have some discovery |\n| 16 | to do, into what is now a less than ten-day period. |\n| 17 | So we agreed, obviously, with the court being |\n| 18 | available and the court approving it, that we would move out |\n| 19 | the hearings to give ourselves just a little bit more time |\n| 20 | so that we can actually make
presentation to the court that |\n| 21 | doesn't result in what happened last week. |\n| 22 | THE COURT:
Okay.
Well, those dates are fine |\n| 23 | except for the hearing. I have something already scheduled |\n| 24 | on the 12th.
We have things scheduled on the 13th and the |\n| 25 | 14th and we're not going to be able -- if we want three |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 7 of 29\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 7 consecutive hearing dates, it's going to have to be in January. MR. MORIARTY: That is not something that we had discussed with the trustee, Your Honor, but we are certainly willing to have that discussion and see if we could continue the orders that are in place, if that is something that the trustee would like to have a discussion about. 8 MR. DESPINS: We're okay with that, Your Honor. I mean, I assume you would be. 10 THE COURT: Well, the first three consecutive days would be January 9, 10 and 11 and the 10th would actually be only part of that day because we have things scheduled on the 10th as well, or you have to go to the next week. The 16th, 17th and 18th of January. 15 MR. DESPINS: I think, Your Honor, we should start on the 9th. MR. MORIARTY: And that would be fine from the standpoint of the respondents, provided that we have to have a discussion with our client and confirm that the existing orders regarding the funds that are at issue that are effectively frozen can continue to be frozen. And we can have that discussion today. 23 THE COURT: Okay. January 9th, the schedule is open. January 10th would only be part day, part in the morning until noon, I think. And then January 11th looks\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 8 like it's a part day as well. I may you may get till 2:00 p.m. or something. Otherwise, the next week, it doesn't have the same scheduling issues as much. So the 16th, 17th and 18th are more open than the 10th and 11th. The 9th is open, but the 10th and -- well, actually, is January 16 a holiday? THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: It is. 8 THE COURT: So it's not the 16th. 9 MR. DESPINS: MLK. 10 THE COURT: So it would have to be the 17th, 18th and 19th of January, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So you all have to figure that out and let me know what works for you. But three consecutive days, it's not going to start until the 9th of January at the earliest and then there'll be somewhat chopped up. At least the 10th will definitely be chopped up. And then the 11th you might only have until the middle of the afternoon, or you go the next week, the 17th, 18th and the 19th. Or you go the following week, the 23rd, the 24th and 25th. But that's up to you. You all will have to discuss it and we'll go from there. Okay? MR. DESPINS: Thank you, Your Honor. So the next matter on the agenda is just an update on the transfer of venue of Genever Holdings LLC. You know Case 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 8 of 29\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 9 that's a New York case. So there's an action pending that we had to file in that case because the two-year statute of limitation of 5.6 was about to expire and we had to file that before the transfer of venue. That action was transferred here. We already had filed an action against -- in the individual case of Mr. Kwok that was basically a mirror of that action against Bravo Luck. The only one that doesn't have that (indiscernible) pending at this point is the BVI entity. So what we're proposing to do is to amend and restate all of this into one action against -- that would involve these three parties. So, of course, we need to do that, meaning to include BVI, Genever BVI and so that would be the (indiscernible), Your Honor. So obviously dates would have to be reset based on that. But we wanted you to know that -- and by the way, that action is with respect to owns the Sherry Netherland apartments. 21 And so that's the game plan. I want to make sure Your Honor was aware of that. THE COURT: So are you going to be moving to consolidate the adversary proceedings? Is that what you're saying?\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 10 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
10 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | MR. DESPINS:
Yes.
Yes, Your Honor. |\n| 2 | THE COURT:
Okay. |\n| 3 | MR. DESPINS:
Once we have amended to include |\n| 4 | Genever BVI in it we would do that, yes. |\n| 5 | THE COURT:
Okay. |\n| 6 | MR. DESPINS:
The next matter is the trustee's |\n| 7 | application in the U.K.
I wanted to make sure Your Honor |\n| 8 | was aware of this. |\n| 9 | On October 21st we filed the (indiscernible) |\n| 10 | application to have these cases recognized in the UK as |\n| 11 | foreign proceedings to allow us to take discovery, but also |\n| 12 | to allow us to get information regarding the UBS litigation. |\n| 13 | And the only party that objected to this was Ace |\n| 14 | Decade and its subsidiary, Dawn State. |\n| 15 | And I'm not making this up.
They objected saying |\n| 16 | that we were moving too fast and as to -- contribute to |\n| 17 | these UK lawyers, they were able to find the sentence in the |\n| 18 | stipulated order that said that we were adjourning the PJR |\n| 19 | because at the time there were negotiations ongoing with the |\n| 20 | debtor and they made that point to the UK court that there's |\n| 21 | no need to rush this because there were settlement |\n| 22 | discussions going on in the U.S. |\n| 23 | Of course, I'm being facetious and it's clear that |\n| 24 | we were (indiscernible)
that information from the Kwok |\n| 25 | team, whoever that is. I hope it doesn't include Zeisler. |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 11 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
11 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | So they're the ones who objected and have been |\n| 2 | asked to have a trial in the UK because they're arguing that |\n| 3 | (indiscernible)
based on the appeal that was filed |\n| 4 | regarding my appointment, et cetera, et cetera. |\n| 5 | So that is ongoing but I thought it was important |\n| 6 | for Your Honor to understand that Ace Decade was mounting |\n| 7 | this battle against (indiscernible)
in the UK.
So that |\n| 8 | will be heard in December, Your Honor, but not |\n| 9 | (indiscernible)
but in -- before the UK courts. |\n| 10 | The next item on the agenda, Your Honor, is the |\n| 11 | update regarding the (indiscernible)
debtor's continued |\n| 12 | cyberbullying.
And we filed a statement, Your Honor, and I |\n| 13 | don't think it needs to be very complicated. |\n| 14 | There's a redacted version, and I'm saying this, |\n| 15 | to Mr. Wolman. It's redacted and filed under seal only to |\n| 16 | tide things like how many daughters do I have, where my |\n| 17 | daughters live and all the cites to the actual videos, |\n| 18 | because we don't want to be fueling the fire that has been |\n| 19 | commenced by the debtor and his team on this.
That's why |\n| 20 | this was filed under seal. I hope Mr. Wolman will see it and |\n| 21 | not object to that filing under seal. |\n| 22 | PAX got the full document.
The reason he gave me |\n| 23 | it is that their subject -- and their executives and the |\n| 24 | kids of these executives are subject to the same |\n| 25 | cyberbulling attacking and picketing of their houses. |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 12 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
12 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | That's (indiscernible
to me and my daughter and my ex-wife |\n| 2 | and that's why they got the full document and so did the |\n| 3 | U.S. Trustee, because we're not concerned that the U.S. |\n| 4 | Trustee would somehow repeat or divulge these various |\n| 5 | sources of information. |\n| 6 | But we're asking that the rest of the statements - |\n| 7 | - by the way, we redacted the minimum, meaning anybody |\n| 8 | reading the statement would see exactly what's going on |\n| 9 | except they wouldn't know the daughters I have and where |\n| 10 | they're working and where they're living, et cetera, et |\n| 11 | cetera. |\n| 12 | So I know this is a lot at the same time meaning - |\n| 13 | - but it's asking in real time, Your Honor, meaning this was |\n| 14 | happening over the weekend, it's happening today and we |\n| 15 | filed the statement so that Your Honor has the full picture. |\n| 16 | And we say in the statement, and I don't say this lightly, |\n| 17 | this is all about the Chapter 11 case. |\n| 18 | The fact that this is happening now when there's a |\n| 19 | motion to hold the debtor in contempt is no accident.
This |\n| 20 | is part of an orchestrated campaign to intimate and threaten |\n| 21 | the trustee, the court appointed -- a court appointed |\n| 22 | officer and large creditors in the case. |\n| 23 | And, Your Honor, this cannot occur.
This cannot |\n| 24 | happen.
Why?
Forget about me. I can handle this and I'm |\n| 25 | going to handle it. It's not an issue. |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 13 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
13 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | But the creditors in the case and potential |\n| 2 | witnesses that I'm talking to right now who have a lot of |\n| 3 | information to provide are watching this and thinking wait a |\n| 4 | minute.
If the court or somebody else is not going to |\n| 5 | protect the trustee, who's court appointed, I'm going to be |\n| 6 | -- this is a witness now, I'm going to be subject to the |\n| 7 | same thing and worse. |\n| 8 | And the same thing for claimants.
There are |\n| 9 | people who are giving us detailed claims but they're saying |\n| 10 | how can I hide my identity.
And I'll get to that in a |\n| 11 | second.
At a minimum we need to do that. |\n| 12 | And we need to allow individual claimants to file |\n| 13 | using code names or some other structure, that Your Honor |\n| 14 | would approve, with the U.S. Trustee's input to allow people |\n| 15 | to be able to
(indiscernible) claim. |\n| 16 | And, of course, Zeisler should seek everything, |\n| 17 | because this is not a Zeisler issue.
Let me be very clear. |\n| 18 | I made that clear to Mr. Henzy before.
We are a hundred |\n| 19 | percent confident that they would never be involved in |\n| 20 | something like that.
So they should see everything. |\n| 21 | But we cannot have the debtor using the same |\n| 22 | tactics to intimidate witnesses or people that are filing |\n| 23 | claims. |\n| 24 | So I know you always -- usually the next sentence |\n| 25 | is so, do you have a motion or anything like that? I don't |\n| | |\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
14 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | have a motion, Your Honor, other than the following things. |\n| 2 | One, this should be a referral to the U.S. |\n| 3 | Attorney by this court.
In order to do that, the court does |\n| 4 | not have to make any findings of guilt or anything like |\n| 5 | that, but there's plenty of running smoke in order for Your |\n| 6 | Honor to do that. |\n| 7 | Yes, the U.S. Trustee can do the same thing, but |\n| 8 | it doesn't have the same weight as a federal court does |\n| 9 | (indiscernible)
U.S. Attorney.
That's number one. |\n| 10 | Number two, Mr. Kwok should be called in to |\n| 11 | explain this to the court and subject to cross examination. |\n| 12 | This is -- you now, we're looking for case law on |\n| 13 | this and I couldn't believe it but we found a case where a |\n| 14 | creditor -- no, actually, the debtor kidnaped the daughter |\n| 15 | of the Chapter 11 trustee.
And we cite that case in our |\n| 16 | statement. |\n| 17 | So this is not the same thing but it's really |\n| 18 | close.
When they go to my daughter's house to picket with |\n| 19 | signs that say your father is a scum bag, he's a communist, |\n| 20 | all these things.
They're all there, Your Honor. That is |\n| 21 | intimidation and it cannot be tolerate. |\n| 22 | I know either Mr. Friedman or Mr. Sarnoff are |\n| 23 | living the same thing, not only because of their law firm, |\n| 24 | but because their client's daughters and sons are also being |\n| 25 | bullied in the same fashion, that they will want to be heard |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 14 of 29\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 15 on this. But this has to stop. There's just no other way around this. And so that's -- you know, that's where we are. I think maybe Mr. Friedman wants to be heard on this issue. MR. FRIEDMAN: May I, Your Honor? THE COURT: Yes. Thank you. It's Peter Friedman. Your Honor, this is -- could not be more straightforward. It's so simple. This case is going very badly for Mr. Kwok inside the courtroom, as every single case he gets involved in does. So he wants to disrupt it through actions outside the courtroom. Intimidation, harassment, doxing behind a paper thin shield of it's not me. But it's got to stop. These are the quotes from Justice Ostrager that probably started this case. If there's one set of rules for billionaire litigants to avoid justice, to gain the system inside the courtroom, then we have no legal system rule of law at all. But it applies just as equally in the proceedings -- to a litigant in proceedings before you. If a debtor can use social media to try to harass, and dox and intimidate a court appointed fiduciary and the largest creditor, our system doesn't work. Your Honor, I actually believe you have the inherent authority, without any relief being sought, to issue a gag order on Mr. Kwok. Your Honor can determine\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 15 of 29\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 16 of 29\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 16 that his behavior is disruptive of court proceedings and makes a mockery of what Mr. Despins was appointed to do and what our client is lawfully entitled to do, which is pursue claims free from harassment of its chairman and his chairman's family. The system simply doesn't work otherwise.\n\n Your Honor, we also, however -- if the court doesn't feel like -- that it has the ability to issue an order on its own, I'm prepared to file a preliminary injunction -- to file a complaint and seek a temporary restraining order, which we would ask to be heard as quickly as tomorrow so that the court can exercise its power under Section 105 of the bankruptcy code and (indiscernible) to stop Mr. Kwok from acting. Frankly, we could this ex parte, given how dangerous Mr. Kwok is, because the rules allow for a temporary restraining order on that basis.\n\n However, we do believe in a transparent system, but we will be prepared to file pleadings tonight and would ask to be heard tomorrow unless counsel for Mr. Kwok is willing -- and Mr. Kwok himself is willing to consent to a temporary restraining order until we can have a preliminary injunction hearing.\n\n But the situation is intolerable. People are protesting outside the homes of the chairman of PAX's children. Information about where they live has been put on\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 17 the internet. There are people protesting outside my office with pictures of me saying I am a CCP agent and spy. There have been comparisons -- Your Honor knows I take my religion seriously. There have been statements re- Tweeted by Mr. Kwok saying that I am akin to a Nazi and a concentration camp guard. And that's not the worst he's done. It's a bad day when the worst thing he's done isn't accuse somebody else of being a Nazi. That's how egregious and shameful his behavior is and, again, it's pointed at one thing, which is to intimidate people from exercising their rights under the legal system, Your Honor. So we will be filing a motion for a temporary restraining order after we file our complaint. We intend to do that tonight. And we would ask the court to hear us tomorrow. Thank you, Your Honor. THE COURT: Thank you. MR. WOLMAN: Your Honor, may I be heard, briefly? THE COURT: Yes. MR. WOLMAN: Thank you. Responding to Mr. Despins, certainly I am sympathetic to his concerns and, you know, I'll leave whatever action the parties want to take against Mr. Kwok to the defense by Mr. Henzy or his firm.\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 17 of 29\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 18 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
18 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | As to sealing documents, I am concerned there's a |\n| 2 | basis why only PAX has seen an unredacted copy. I don't |\n| 3 | think that this necessarily is something under the |\n| 4 | protective order, the confidentiality order. |\n| 5 | But I should note that it does not sound like the |\n| 6 | trustee's asking for specific relief from this court.
So it |\n| 7 | might not be a judicial document and I'm still assessing |\n| 8 | what the purpose of the filing was.
So it would be a lower |\n| 9 | standard for sealing.
I will concede that to the extent |\n| 10 | relief is not being sought. |\n| 11 | But I am concerned potentially with the breadth of |\n| 12 | redactions. It does sound a bit that perhaps the genie is |\n| 13 | already out of the bottle.
The ad people who have the |\n| 14 | information already have the information at issue and to |\n| 15 | what extent the public otherwise doesn't have access, I'm |\n| 16 | concerned about.
I haven't had a chance to fully read every |\n| 17 | detail of the report. |\n| 18 | But finally, my primary concern is the John Doe |\n| 19 | creditor claims as it were, that -- the methodology for |\n| 20 | doing that because I don't know how a party in interest |\n| 21 | under Section 502 for Rule 3007 might be in a position to |\n| 22 | object to the claim if they don't know who the claimant is. |\n| 23 | THE COURT:
Okay.
Well, that's not before me |\n| 24 | today, so I understand your concern, but no one has filed |\n| 25 | any motion seeking any of that form of relief. |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 19 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
19 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | MR. WOLMAN:
Your Honor, a revised order was |\n| 2 | submitted to that effect, I believe. |\n| 3 | THE COURT:
Well, I haven't seen it. |\n| 4 | MR. WOLMAN:
The trustee -- |\n| 5 | MR. DESPINS:
Sorry, Your Honor.
This was just to |\n| 6 | let you know not to sign the (indiscernible) order today, if |\n| 7 | you're inclined to do that, because we want to address this |\n| 8 | issue and we don't want to have to amend an order.
We're |\n| 9 | not to address this on this call, but there has to be a |\n| 10 | mechanism to protect the identity. |\n| 11 | And the point I was making, while I was muted, was |\n| 12 | that the trustee is the party that has the right to object |\n| 13 | and he -- I'm a fiduciary and I will object to all claims |\n| 14 | that are not valid. |\n| 15 | And as to others that have an interest, such as |\n| 16 | the creditors committee or the Zeisler firm, they would have |\n| 17 | full access to that information and so they can -- the point |\n| 18 | is that there should not be public dissemination of personal |\n| 19 | information about the claimants because they're at physical |\n| 20 | risk and there's a risk of harm to them.
And there are ways |\n| 21 | of protecting the integrity of the system, I should describe |\n| 22 | it. |\n| 23 | So the actual methodology we use, that's wide |\n| 24 | open.
But the goal is to protect these poor people who are |\n| 25 | believed -- who have either been threatened or believe that |\n| | |\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 20 they would, but still able to assert a claim within the process. MR. GOLDMAN: Your Honor, may I be heard on behalf of the committee? THE COURT: I said yes. I don't know if you heard me. MR. GOLDMAN: I just wanted to express our support for the trustee's claims for relief here. The level of abuse that is being perpetrated by Mr. Kwok is patent. I've never seen it to this degree in my 37 years of practice, and the trickle effects that it's going to have, as mentioned by Mr. Despins, are real and really has to be addressed in order for the system to work properly. I would point out that the court actually could act *sua sponte* under Section 105(a) to issue any orders that were necessary to prevent an abuse of process, is what the section describes. And as I said, I think that is patent here. So however Your Honor chooses to proceed, whether it's formally based on a set of papers from Mr. Friedman or -- certainly I think you could do it *sua sponte*. That's all I have. THE COURT: Okay. Anyone else wish to be heard? Attorney Henzy, have you discussed these issues with your client, the issues that the Chapter 11 Trustee has raised with regard to -- as it stated on the agenda, social\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 20 of 29\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 21 of 29\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 21 media bullying and intimidation? MR. HENZY: Yes. THE COURT: And you had said to me last week, I believe, that I believe that you were informed that certain videos, I believe, would be taken down. Have you had any discussions with your client about whatever's occurred this weekend being stopped? MR. HENZY: Yes. THE COURT: And you have no ability to represent to the court that it will be stopped? MR. HENZY: No. THE COURT: Okay. All right. What else are we going to address this afternoon? Didn't you have an order -- didn't you need an order, Trustee Despins, extending the time frame to remove actions? MR. DESPINS: Yes, I believe Mr. Linsey was going to handle that. I apologize for not putting that on the agenda. MR. LINSEY: We do, Your Honor. We filed a second motion for extension of time to extend the deadline for removal. Given everything that's going on in the case and everything that the trustee is evaluating at the moment, we believe that would be in order.\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 22 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
22 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | There were no objections to the first motion that |\n| 2 | we filed seeking an extension of time. I haven't seen any |\n| 3 | objections to this motion.
Frankly, we didn't expect them. |\n| 4 | The reason that we sought expedited relief is |\n| 5 | because the current extension expires on December 6th.
So |\n| 6 | we would ask, given that service is proper, given that no |\n| 7 | one has objected, that the court enter that further |\n| 8 | extension, which would carry the existing extension through |\n| 9 | and including April 5th of 2023. |\n| 10 | THE COURT:
Does anyone have any objection to the |\n| 11 | extension of time with regard to the removal of actions that |\n| 12 | has just been recited on the record by Attorney Linsey? |\n| 13 | All right.
Hearing none, then I will take a look |\n| 14 | at that order and that motion will be granted and the order |\n| 15 | will enter, unless there is some issue with the order that |\n| 16 | we will let you know about, okay? |\n| 17 | MR. LINSEY:
Thank you, Your Honor. |\n| 18 | THE COURT:
Thank you. |\n| 19 | MR. FRIEDMAN:
Your Honor -- |\n| 20 | THE COURT:
Yes. |\n| 21 | MR. FRIEDMAN:
It's Peter Friedman. |\n| 22 | So just without knowing where the hearing is going |\n| 23 | from here, would we -- if necessary, would we be able to |\n| 24 | have a temporary restraining order and hearing tomorrow? |\n| 25 | THE COURT:
Well, this isn't a hearing today. |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 23 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
23 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | It's a status conference.
And the only other thing that was |\n| 2 | scheduled was the extension of time for removal of a civil |\n| 3 | action, which we just addressed.
This was specifically |\n| 4 | requested to be a status conference, so that is what we're |\n| 5 | doing. |\n| 6 | As far as you filing papers, we have hearings |\n| 7 | already scheduled tomorrow in other matters. So I'd have to |\n| 8 | see whatever you file and I'll have to see whatever it is, |\n| 9 | if anything, that the court can address tomorrow. But that's |\n| 10 | where we are. |\n| 11 | I mean, I don't know what the United States |\n| 12 | Trustee's Office's position is with all of this and where |\n| 13 | they stand. I have no idea. |\n| 14 | I understand some things were filed in the last |\n| 15 | hour and a half or less with regard to things that occurred |\n| 16 | outside of court. |\n| 17 | You know, as I said the other day -- I think I |\n| 18 | said -- maybe I said it in a sealed portion of the hearing, |\n| 19 | these -- well, I may have said it -- I don't even recall if |\n| 20 | I said it during a public part of the hearing or a sealed |\n| 21 | part, but these issues are obviously not what anyone was |\n| 22 | anticipating would occur in the case and this is a |\n| 23 | bankruptcy case. |\n| 24 | So you all have to do whatever you think is |\n| 25 | appropriate and we'll go from there. |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 24 of 29\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 24 But what is the U.S. Trustee's Office -- has the U.S. Trustee's Office seen the information that -- regarding this, apparently, that have occurred over the weekend and today with regard to protests and things of that nature? MS. CLAIBORN: Yes, Your Honor. I have now received a full, unredacted copy of what was filed with the court. I don't have an official position to convey to Your Honor about the release that's been requested, as I was not privy to that in anticipation of the hearing today. But I do want to reiterate what I said last week, which is that the U.S. Trustee is very concerned about the conduct of outside individuals with respect to this case and with respect to Mr. Kwok to the extent that he's involved with it, and that we are taking it seriously and we have been in communications with the appropriate authorities. THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. Okay. Again, you know, I understand what's been said and, obviously, there's very serious issues involved. I haven't reviewed any of it to make any determinations and I'm not sure that I am -- well, we'll just have to see what you file and where we go from there. These are serious issues and they need to be brought and reviewed appropriately. MR. FRIEDMAN: Your Honor, we do believe that there's exigent risk so we will get our papers in and filed\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 25 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
25 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | as quickly as possible and make ourselves available in |\n| 2 | person or remotely, whatever the court wishes for, so that |\n| 3 | we can have these issues in front of you, because we do |\n| 4 | believe urgent relief is necessary. |\n| 5 | Facts are unfolding in real time.
The pleading |\n| 6 | and the (indiscernible)
is constant and we don't want to |\n| 7 | see any -- you know, it's already troubling.
We obviously |\n| 8 | don't want to see it go any further. |\n| 9 | THE COURT:
I understand. |\n| 10 | MR. DESPINS:
And, Your Honor, the first thing |\n| 11 | people have told me about this case, and Your Honor -- is |\n| 12 | don't ever cite 105 to the bench and the last thing -- but I |\n| 13 | know the feeling.
But if there's ever a situation where 105 |\n| 14 | should be invoked to protect the integrity of the process |\n| 15 | and the court, this is the one. |\n| 16 | I understand you haven't read anything so you |\n| 17 | cannot form an opinion on the spot. Understood.
But I would |\n| 18 | urge Your Honor to read and go and see what was posted about |\n| 19 | high school pictures and my daughters and things like that. |\n| 20 | It's just insanity. |\n| 21 | And they always say, oh, we're going to be |\n| 22 | peaceful.
That's until somebody goes haywire and decides |\n| 23 | they need to take the law in their own hands and by that |\n| 24 | time it will be too late. |\n| 25 | So I am sorry be perhaps overly dramatic about |\n\nHo Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022 26 this, but I really feel very strongly that this is fundamental to the case and to the judicial process. Thank you, Your Honor. THE COURT: Thank you. All right. Is there anything else we can address this afternoon? MR. MORIARTY: Your Honor, James Moriarty. If I could turn back to the pre-judgment remedy and injunction application for one second. The respondent's objection is due today at 5 o'clock and each party is supposed to be filing their witness and exhibit list today at 5 o'clock. Since we are discussing continuing the hearing likely to a date in January, can we assume that those dates are no longer applicable so we do not have to file today? MR. DESPINS: So that will be fine in theory, except if Mr. Kwok decides that he is not willing to maintain the status quo until then, then we're left in a bad spot. So I think that -- we're happy with those dates. Happy to do the January dates, but it has to be with the (indiscernible) continuing. MR. MORIARTY: And that's fine. Mr. Kwok's actually not a party to -- MR. DESPINS: Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Sorry. Well, the other side of the (indiscernible) needs to agree to that. Case 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 26 of 29\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 27 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
27 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | MR. MORIARTY:
Yeah, I get the point and I |\n| 2 | understand and I agree with you. |\n| 3 | But at a minimum we had discussed moving it up to |\n| 4 | the 12th and we already have agreement on that. So our dates |\n| 5 | would be tomorrow. |\n| 6 | And then assuming we get further agreement for |\n| 7 | January, I just want to make sure there's no filing |\n| 8 | requirement today. |\n| 9 | MR. DESPINS:
From out point of view that's fine, |\n| 10 | as long as we're not going to be faced with a situation |\n| 11 | where there's no agreement for January and then we have to |\n| 12 | proceed with the existing dates.
That would be a problem. |\n| 13 | So we're okay with the dates in January as long as |\n| 14 | the stand still is maintained. And I think -- that's the |\n| 15 | only issue.
We're not going to try to default you tomorrow. |\n| 16 | That's not the goal. The point is though we need to have a |\n| 17 | full agreement on this. |\n| 18 | THE COURT:
Well, I'll let you discuss that off |\n| 19 | the record and then you can submit an order with regard to |\n| 20 | dates, or however you want to proceed so that your agreement |\n| 21 | is enforceable. |\n| 22 | MR. MORIARTY:
Thank you, Your Honor. |\n| 23 | MR. DESPINS:
Thank you, Your Honor. |\n| 24 | THE COURT:
Okay.
Thank you. |\n| 25 | Anything further this afternoon? |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 28 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
28 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | MR. DESPINS:
Well, there -- I'm just mentioning |\n| 2 | it because I doubt we'll go forward on it, but there was the |\n| 3 | motion to compel.
We need to continue that to a date -- |\n| 4 | from our perspective because we're seeking production as |\n| 5 | soon as possible.
I'm just saying it's not going to happen |\n| 6 | today. |\n| 7 | THE COURT:
Right. It's not going to happen today. |\n| 8 | So I will take a look and we'll see where things |\n| 9 | stand in the next few days.
Maybe we'll see if it can be |\n| 10 | next week or the following week.
Okay? |\n| 11 | MR. DESPINS:
Thank you, Your Honor. |\n| 12 | THE COURT:
Okay.
All right.
Anything further |\n| 13 | this afternoon? |\n| 14 | UNIDENTIFIED:
Your Honor, there was a motion for |\n| 15 | joint administration to jointly administer the three cases |\n| 16 | that the court had granted.
But I haven't seen an order on |\n| 17 | it.
And I only ask because there's been some confusion |\n| 18 | about what caption to use. |\n| 19 | THE COURT:
The caption that you use is the main |\n| 20 | case caption.
Mr. Kwok's case.
That's the first name. |\n| 21 | And have we gotten that order? |\n| 22 | THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: I was just going to check. |\n| 23 | THE COURT:
We're just checking.
But we were in |\n| 24 | court all day Friday so we still had other work to do today. |\n| 25 | (Pause.) |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1200 Filed 12/06/22 Entered 12/06/22 08:49:13 Page 29 of 29\n\n| | Ho Wan Kwok and Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022
29 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | THE COURT:
All right.
We'll take a look at that |\n| 2 | order right after we complete this hearing and we'll try to |\n| 3 | get it entered within the next half an hour, okay? |\n| 4 | UNIDENTIFIED:
Thank you so much, Your Honor. |\n| 5 | THE COURT:
All right.
Thank you. |\n| 6 | MR. DESPINS:
Thank you. |\n| 7 | THE COURT:
All right.
Court is adjourned. |\n| 8 | (Proceedings adjourned at 2:56 p.m.) |\n| 9 | I, CHRISTINE FIORE, Certified Electronic Court Reporter and |\n| 10 | Transcriber, certify that the foregoing is a correct |\n| 11 | transcript from the official electronic sound recording of |\n| 12 | the proceedings in the above-entitled matter. |\n| 13 | |\n| 14 | |\n| 15 | December 4, 2022 |\n| 16 | Christine Fiore, CERT |\n| 17 | |\n| 18 | |\n| 19 | |\n| 20 | |\n| 21 | |\n| 22 | |\n| 23 | |\n| 24 | |\n| 25 | |\n| | |","body_zh":"美国破产法院\n康涅狄格地区布里奇波特分院\n\n关于 * 案号 22-50073 (JAM)\n *\nHO WAN KWOK（郭文贵）和 GENEVER *\nHOLDINGS CORPORATION（Genever控股公司）， * 康涅狄格州布里奇波特\n * November 21, 2022\n债务人。 *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n *\n\n关于命令的动议及设定状态会议动议的庭审记录\n\n于尊敬的 JULIE A. MANNING（朱莉·A·曼宁）阁下\n美国破产法官面前\n\n出庭人员：\n\n代表债务人、Mei Guo（郭美）及 HK International（香港国际公司）：\nERIC A. HENZY, ESQ.（埃里克·A·亨齐，律师）\nZeisler & Zeisler, P.C.（泽斯勒与泽斯勒专业公司）\n10 Middle Street, 15th Floor\nBridgeport, CT 06604\n\n代表债权人 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机遇基金有限合伙企业）：\nANNECCA SMITH, ESQ.（安妮卡·史密斯，律师）\nRobinson & Cole（罗宾逊与科尔律师事务所）\n28 Trumbull Street\nHartford, CT 06103\n\nSTUART SARNOFF, ESQ.（斯图尔特·萨诺夫，律师）\nPETER FRIEDMAN, ESQ.（彼得·弗里德曼，律师）\nO'Melveny & Myers LLP（奥美律师事务所）\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, NY 10036\n\n第11章受托人：\nLUC A. DESPINS, ESQ.（吕克·A·德斯平，律师）\nPaul Hastings LLP（普衡律师事务所）\n200 Park Avenue\nNew York, NY 10166\n\n程序通过电子录音记录，记录文本由速记服务机构制作。\n\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.（菲奥雷记录与速记服务公司）\n4 Research Drive, Suite 402\nShelton, Connecticut 06484\n(203)929-9992\n\n出庭人员：（续）\n\n代表第11章受托人及 Genever、Genever BVI 和 Genever U.S.：\nPATRICK R. LINSEY, ESQ.（帕特里克·R·林赛，律师）\nNeubert Pepe & Monteith, PC（诺伊伯特、佩佩与蒙蒂思律师事务所）\n195 Church Street\nNew Haven, CT 06510\n\n代表美国受托人：\nHOLLEY L. CLAIBORN, ESQ.（霍莉·L·克莱伯恩，律师）\nOffice of the United States Trustee（美国受托人办公室）\nThe Giaimo Federal Building（贾伊莫联邦大楼）\n150 Court Street, Room 302\nNew Haven, CT 06510\n\n代表债权人委员会：\nIRVE GOLDMAN, ESQ.（欧文·戈德曼，律师）\nPullman & Comley（普尔曼与科姆利律师事务所）\n850 Main Street\nBridgeport, CT 06601\n\n代表债权人 Logan Cheng（程洛根）：\nJAY MARSHALL WOLMAN, ESQ.（杰伊·马歇尔·沃尔曼，律师）\nRandazza Legal Group, PLLC（兰达扎法律集团专业有限责任公司）\n100 Pearl Street\nHartford, CT 06103\n\n案卷 22-50073，文书 1200，已于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 3 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 和 Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022\n\n（庭审于下午 2:15 开始。）\n\n法庭书记员：案号 22-50073，Ho Wan Kwok。\n\n法庭：早上好。请各方为记录目的说明出庭情况，先请第11章受托人。\n\nDESPINS 先生：早上好，法官阁下。Luc Despins，第11章受托人。\n\n法庭：早上好。\n\nBASSETT 先生：下午好，法官阁下。Nick Bassett（尼克·巴塞特），来自 Paul Hastings，代表第11章受托人。\n\nLINSEY 先生：下午好，法官阁下。Patrick Linsey，受托人的康涅狄格州律师。\n\n法庭：下午好。债务人的律师呢？\n\nCLAIBORN 女士：下午好，法官阁下。Holley——哦，抱歉。\n\n法庭：请继续，Claiborn 律师。\n\nCLAIBORN 女士：下午好，法官阁下。Holley Claiborn，代表美国受托人。\n\n法庭：下午好。\n\nGOLDMAN 先生：下午好，法官阁下。Irve Goldman，Pullman and Comley，代表债权人委员会。\n\n案卷 22-50073，文书 1200，已于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 4 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 和 Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022\n\n法庭：请债务人的律师说明出庭情况。\n\nHENZY 先生：Eric Henzy，Zeisler and Zeisler 律师事务所，代表债务人。\n\nKINDSETH 先生：Stephen Kindseth（斯蒂芬·金德塞思），同样来自 Zeisler and Zeisler，代表债务人。\n\nMORIARTY 先生：James Moriarty（詹姆斯·莫里亚蒂），Zeisler and Zeisler，也代表债务人，以及——由于我们将讨论 PJR——Guo 女士和 HK USA（HK美国公司）。\n\n法庭：好的。下午好。PAX 的律师。\n\nFRIEDMAN 先生：Peter Friedman，法官阁下，来自 O'Melveny and Myers，代表 PAX。\n\nSARNOFF 先生：Stuart Sarnoff，来自 O'Melveny and Myers，代表 PAX。\n\nSMITH 女士：Annecca Smith，Robinson and Cole，同样作为康涅狄格州律师代表 PAX。\n\n法庭：下午好。然后是债权人 Cheng 先生的律师。\n\nWOLMAN 先生：下午好，法官阁下。Jay Wolman，Randazza Legal Group，代表债权人 Logan Cheng。\n\n法庭：好的。下午好。那么，今天排期的是一次状态会议，我看到，Despins 受托人，您已就状态会议提交了一份议程。因此，请您直接按照您的议程进行。\n\nHo Wan Kwok 和 Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022\n\nDESPINS 先生：谢谢您，法官阁下。议程的第一项是对——一项拟议修改，因为这取决于法官阁下是否有时间——但这是对关于受托人申请判决前救济以及初步禁令的日程安排所作的拟议修改。\n\n各方——即受托人、债务人和 Hong Kong——一家名为 Hong Kong, Inc.（香港公司）的公司、债务人的女儿，所有律师均已就一项拟议修改后的日程进行了协商，据告知对此已有如下协议。\n\nMoriarty 先生如我说错可予纠正，但受托人对方提交的反对意见法律备忘录——因此涉及若干方，但您知道，Hong Kong、Guo 女士——将于 November 22，即明日，下午 5:00 前提交。\n\n他们可以提交一份合并备忘录，超过页数限制。总计为 35 页。\n\n各方也将在明日下午 5:00 前交换证人及证物清单。\n\n证词录取将在 December 1 至 December 7 期间进行。补充证物清单和反驳专家将于 December 8 前提交。当然，听证会取决于法官阁下是否有时间，将于 December 12 开始，并对已被冻结的账户适用目前适用的相同时间延迟。\n\n所以我不记得确切天数，但会是——我们将在有关本案诉讼时限的新情形中，采用同样的时间延迟。\n\n我相信这就是协议，但如我说错，Moriarty 先生可予纠正。\n\nMORIARTY 先生：正确，法官阁下。律师们于周五和周末期间讨论了此事。我们认识到法院对藐视法庭听证会进行方式的不满，并且基于该听证会的时长，我们认为，如果我们不试图将这场已安排三天、且我们仍有一些证据开示工作要做的 PJR 和禁令听证会，硬塞进目前不足十天的期间内，将符合各方利益。\n\n因此，我们同意，显然以前提是法院有时间且法院予以批准，我们将推迟听证会，以便给我们多一点时间，从而实际向法院作出陈述，而不致发生上周发生的情况。\n\n法庭：好的。这些日期都可以，听证会除外。我在 12 日已有安排。我们在 13 日和 14 日已有安排，而且我们将无法——如果我们要连续三天的听证日期，就必须在 January 进行。\n\n案卷 22-50073，文书 1200，已于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 6 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 和 Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022\n\n法庭：连续的听证日期，最早也只能在 January。\n\nMORIARTY 先生：法官阁下，这不是我们与受托人讨论过的事项，但我们当然愿意进行该讨论，并看看我们能否延续现有命令，如果这是受托人希望讨论的事项。\n\nDESPINS 先生：我们对此没有异议，法官阁下。我的意思是，我假定您会这样做。\n\n法庭：那么，最先连续的三天会是 January 9、10 和 11 日，而 10 日实际上只能占用部分当天，因为我们在 10 日也有安排，或者你们必须安排到下一周。January 16、17 和 18 日。\n\nDESPINS 先生：我认为，法官阁下，我们应从 9 日开始。\n\nMORIARTY 先生：从被申请人的角度看，这可以，前提是我们必须与我们的客户讨论，并确认有关争议资金、实际上已被冻结的现有命令可以继续冻结。我们今天可以进行该讨论。\n\n法庭：好的。January 9 日，日程是空的。January 10 日只能是半天，我想，是上午到中午的部分时间。然后 January 11 日看来也是半天。\n\nHo Wan Kwok 和 Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022\n\n法庭：看来也是半天。我可能——你们可能可以用到下午 2:00 左右。否则，下一周的排期问题没有那么多。因此，16、17 和 18 日比 10 和 11 日更为空闲。9 日是空的，但 10 日和——嗯，实际上，January 16 日是节假日吗？\n\n法庭书记员：是的。\n\n法庭：那么不是 16 日。\n\nDESPINS 先生：MLK。\n\n法庭：那么只能是 January 17、18 和 19 日，星期二、星期三、星期四。因此你们都必须弄清楚，并告知我哪些日期适合你们。但是连续三天，最早不会在 January 9 日之前开始，而且届时会有些零碎。至少 10 日肯定会被切分。然后 11 日你们可能只能用到下午中段，或者你们安排到下一周，即 17、18 和 19 日。或者再下一周，即 23、24 和 25 日。但这由你们决定。你们都必须讨论，然后我们再据此处理。好吗？\n\nDESPINS 先生：谢谢您，法官阁下。因此，议程中的下一事项只是关于 Genever Holdings LLC（Genever控股有限责任公司）移送审判地的更新。您知道——\n\n案卷 22-50073，文书 1200，已于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 8 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 和 Genever Holdings Corp. - November 21, 2022\n\n那是纽约案件。因此，那里有一项待决诉讼，我们必须在该案件中提起，因为 5.6 的两年时效期限即将届满，我们必须在移送审判地之前提起该诉讼。该诉讼已移送至此。\n\n我们已经在 Kwok 先生的个人案件中，对 Bravo Luck（布拉沃·拉克公司）提起了一项诉讼，该诉讼基本上是该诉讼的镜像。此时唯一尚未有该（听不清）待决的，是 BVI 实体。因此，我们拟议将所有这些修订并重述为一项针对——将涉及这三方的诉讼。\n\n因此，当然，我们需要这样做，即纳入 BVI、Genever BVI（Genever英属维尔京群岛公司），这将是该（听不清），法官阁下。因此，显然日期必须据此重新设定。但我们希望您知道这一点——顺便说，该诉讼涉及谁拥有 Sherry Netherland apartments（谢里·荷兰公寓）。\n\n这就是计划。我想确保法官阁下知悉此事。\n\n法庭：那么，你们是否将提出动议以合并这些对立程序？这是您所说的意思吗？\n\n案卷 22-50073，文书 1200，已于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 10 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok（郭文贵）及 Genever Holdings Corp.（Genever 控股公司）- 2022年11月21日\n\nDESPINS 先生：\n是的。\n是的，法官阁下。\n\n法院：\n好的。\n\nDESPINS 先生：\n一旦我们作出修订，将 Genever BVI 纳入其中，我们就会这样做，是的。\n\n法院：\n好的。\n\nDESPINS 先生：\n下一事项是受托人在英国提出的申请。我想确保法官阁下知悉此事。\n\n10月21日，我们提交了（听不清）申请，请求将这些案件在英国承认为外国程序，以便我们进行证据开示，同时也使我们能够获得有关 UBS 诉讼的信息。\n\n唯一对此提出异议的一方是 Ace Decade（Ace Decade）及其子公司 Dawn State（Dawn State）。\n\n我并非捏造此事。他们提出异议，称我们推进得过快；至于——向这些英国律师作出陈述时，他们能够找到经协议裁定中的那句话，其中称我们正在延期 PJR，因为当时正与债务人进行谈判；他们向英国法院指出，无须匆忙，因为美国正在进行和解讨论。\n\n当然，我是在讽刺；显然，我们从郭文贵团队——不论那是谁——那里（听不清）该信息。我希望其中不包括 Zeisler（Zeisler）。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 11 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及 Genever 控股公司 - 2022年11月21日\n\n因此，是他们提出异议，并请求在英国举行审理，因为他们主张，基于就我获任命一事所提出的上诉等等，（听不清）。\n\n因此，该事项仍在进行中；但我认为，法官阁下理解 Ace Decade 正在英国就（听不清）展开这场争斗十分重要。因此，此事将于12月在英国法院而非（听不清）进行审理，法官阁下。\n\n法官阁下，议程上的下一事项是关于（听不清）债务人持续网络霸凌的最新情况。\n\n我们提交了一份陈述，法官阁下，我认为事情不必非常复杂。\n\n有一份删节版本；我这样说是对 Wolman 先生说的。该版本经删节并以密封方式提交，只是为了隐去诸如我有几个女儿、我的女儿住在哪里，以及所有指向实际视频的引证，因为我们不想火上浇油，助长债务人及其团队在此事上已经挑起的事态。这就是为何该文件以密封方式提交。我希望 Wolman 先生会阅览该文件，并且不会反对以密封方式提交。\n\nPAX（PAX）收到了完整文件。他给我该文件的原因是，他们的负责人、管理人员以及这些管理人员的子女，也遭受同样的网络霸凌、攻击和在其住宅外抗议。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 12 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及 Genever 控股公司 - 2022年11月21日\n\n这就是（听不清）对我、我的女儿和我的前妻所做的事；这就是他们获得完整文件的原因，美国受托人也获得了该文件，因为我们不担心美国受托人会以某种方式重复或披露这些不同的信息来源。\n\n但是，我们请求其余陈述——顺便说一句，我们作了最低限度的删节，这意味着任何阅读该陈述的人都会确切知道正在发生什么，只是不知道我有几个女儿，以及她们在哪里工作、在哪里居住，等等。\n\n所以，我知道这在同一时间发生的事情很多——但这是实时提出的请求，法官阁下；也就是说，这在周末发生，今天仍在发生，我们提交该陈述，是为了让法官阁下了解完整情况。\n\n而且我们在陈述中称，我并非轻率地这样说，这一切都与第 11 章案件有关。\n\n在有一项要求裁定债务人藐视法庭的动议之际发生此事，并非偶然。这是一次有组织行动的一部分，旨在恐吓和威胁受托人——一名由法院指定的官员——以及本案中的大型债权人。\n\n而且，法官阁下，这不能发生。这不能被允许。为什么？不必管我。我能处理此事，而且我将会处理。这不是问题。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 13 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及 Genever 控股公司 - 2022年11月21日\n\n但是，本案的债权人以及我现在正在接触、且掌握大量可提供信息的潜在证人，都在看着这一切并想：等一下。如果法院或其他人不保护这名由法院指定的受托人，那么我——现在是从一名证人的角度说——将遭受同样甚至更糟的事情。\n\n债权申报人也是如此。有些人正在向我们提供详细的债权申报，但他们说，我如何隐藏我的身份。我稍后会谈到这一点。至少我们需要这样做。\n\n我们需要允许个人债权申报人使用化名或其他经法官阁下批准、并有美国受托人意见参与的结构提交，以便人们能够（听不清）申报债权。\n\n当然，Zeisler 应当看到一切，因为这不是 Zeisler 的问题。让我说得非常清楚。我此前已向 Henzy 先生说明这一点。我们百分之百确信，他们绝不会参与此类事情。因此，他们应当看到一切。\n\n但是，我们不能允许债务人使用同样的手段恐吓证人或提交债权申报的人。\n\n所以，我知道您通常——下一句话通常是，那么，您有动议或诸如此类的东西吗？我没有动议，法官阁下，除了以下事项。\n\n第一，法院应当将此事移交给联邦检察官。为此，法院不必作出任何有罪认定或诸如此类的认定，但已有足够多的迹象可供法官阁下这样做。\n\n是的，美国受托人也可以做同样的事，但其分量不如联邦法院向（听不清）联邦检察官作出的移交。这是第一项。\n\n第二，应当传唤郭先生到庭，向法院解释此事，并接受交叉询问。\n\n这——您知道，我们正在寻找有关此事的判例法；我简直不敢相信，但我们找到了一宗案件，其中一名债权人——不，实际上是债务人绑架了第 11 章受托人的女儿。我们在陈述中引用了该案。\n\n因此，这不是同一回事，但确实非常接近。当他们前往我女儿家门外，举着写有“你父亲是个败类，他是共产主义者”等等内容的标语抗议时，这些事情都在那里，法官阁下。这就是恐吓，不能被容忍。\n\n我知道 Friedman 先生或 Sarnoff 先生也正在经历同样的事情，不仅因为他们的律师事务所，还因为其客户的女儿和儿子也正以同样方式遭受霸凌；他们会希望就此发言。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 14 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及 Genever 控股公司 - 2022年11月21日\n\n就此发言。但这必须停止。除此之外别无办法。因此，这——您知道，这就是我们目前的处境。我想 Friedman 先生或许希望就此问题发言。\n\nFRIEDMAN 先生：\n法官阁下，我可以发言吗？\n\n法院：\n可以。谢谢。\n\nFRIEDMAN 先生：\n我是 Peter Friedman（彼得·弗里德曼）。法官阁下，此事再直接不过。事情非常简单。\n\n郭先生在法庭内的本案进展得非常不利，正如他所参与的每一宗案件一样。因此，他想通过法庭外的行为扰乱本案。恐吓、骚扰、人肉搜索，却躲在“不是我干的”这层薄如纸张的掩护之后。但这必须停止。\n\n这些是 Ostrager 法官（奥斯特拉格法官）的引述，可能正是这些引述引发了本案。如果亿万富翁诉讼当事人有一套规则可以逃避司法、在法庭内操纵制度，那么我们根本就不存在法治的法律制度。\n\n但这同样适用于在您面前程序中的诉讼当事人。如果债务人能够利用社交媒体，试图骚扰、公开个人信息并恐吓由法院指定的受托人以及最大债权人，我们的制度就无法运作。\n\n法官阁下，我实际上认为，即使无人请求任何救济，您也拥有固有权力对郭先生发布禁言令。法官阁下可以认定，他的行为扰乱了法院程序，并使 Despins 先生被任命所要做的工作、以及我们客户依法有权做的工作沦为笑柄；后者即是在其董事长及其董事长家人免受骚扰的情况下追索债权。否则，该制度根本无法运作。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 15 页，共 29 页\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 16 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及 Genever 控股公司 - 2022年11月21日\n\n然而，法官阁下，我们也——如果法院认为——其无权自行发布命令，我准备提交初步禁令申请——提交起诉状并请求临时限制令；我们将请求尽快在明天就此举行听证，以便法院能够依据《破产法》第 105 条及（听不清）行使其权力，阻止郭先生采取行动。坦率地说，鉴于郭先生的危险性，我们可以单方申请，因为规则允许基于该理由发布临时限制令。\n\n不过，我们确实相信透明的制度；但我们将准备今晚提交诉状，并请求明天举行听证，除非郭先生的律师愿意——且郭先生本人愿意——同意在我们举行初步禁令听证之前接受临时限制令。\n\n但这种情况无法容忍。有人在 PAX 董事长子女的住宅外抗议。他们住在哪里的信息已被发布到互联网。\n\n郭文贵及 Genever 控股公司 - 2022年11月21日\n\n有人在我的办公室外抗议，举着我的照片，称我是中国共产党特工和间谍。曾有比较——法官阁下知道，我严肃对待我的宗教信仰。郭先生转发的言论称，我类似于纳粹和集中营看守。这甚至不是他做过的最糟糕的事。当他做过的最糟糕的事并非指控他人是纳粹时，这是糟糕的一天。这就是其行为何等严重和可耻；而且，再次强调，其目的只有一个，即恐吓人们，使其不敢行使其在法律制度下的权利，法官阁下。\n\n因此，我们将在提交起诉状后提交临时限制令动议。我们打算今晚这样做。并且，我们请求法院明天审理。谢谢，法官阁下。\n\n法院：\n谢谢。\n\nWOLMAN 先生：\n法官阁下，我可以简短发言吗？\n\n法院：\n可以。\n\nWOLMAN 先生：\n谢谢。就 Despins 先生所述作出回应，我当然同情他的担忧，而且，您知道，我将各方希望针对郭先生采取的任何行动，留给 Henzy 先生或其律师事务所进行抗辩。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 17 页，共 29 页\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交，于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记，第 18 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok（郭文贵）及 Genever Holdings Corp.（Genever 控股公司）— November 21, 2022\n\n1 关于对文件进行密封，我担心为何只有 PAX 看到未删节副本可能有其依据。我认为这未必属于保护令或保密令的范围。\n\n但我应指出，听起来受托人并未请求本院给予具体救济。因此，该文件可能不是司法文件，我仍在评估提交该文件的目的。因此，适用的密封标准会较低。我承认，在未请求救济的范围内确是如此。\n\n但我可能担心删节的广泛程度。听起来或许有些像是覆水难收。那些坏人已经掌握了相关信息；而公众在其他方面无法获得该信息的程度，令我担忧。我还没有机会完整阅读报告的每一项细节。\n\n但最后，我主要担心的是所谓的 John Doe（无名氏）债权人债权，即实施该做法的方法，因为我不知道《破产法》第 502 条及规则 3007 所规定的利害关系方，在不知道债权人是谁的情况下，如何能够对债权提出异议。\n\n法庭：好的。嗯，这今天不在我面前审理，因此我理解你的担忧，但尚无人提交任何动议，请求该形式的任何救济。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 提交日期 12/06/22 录入日期 12/06/22 08:49:13 第 19 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 及 Genever Holdings Corp. — November 21, 2022\n\n沃尔曼先生：法官阁下，我相信，为此已提交了一份修订后的命令。\n\n法庭：嗯，我还没有看到。\n\n沃尔曼先生：受托人——\n\n德斯平斯先生：抱歉，法官阁下。这只是为了告知您，如果您倾向于今天签署该（听不清）命令，请不要签署，因为我们希望处理这个问题，并且不希望不得不修改一项命令。我们并非要在这次电话会议中处理此事，但必须有一种机制来保护身份。\n\n而且，我刚才在静音时所说的是，受托人是有权提出异议的一方，而且他——我是受信人，我将对所有无效债权提出异议。\n\n至于其他具有利害关系的人，例如债权人委员会或 Zeisler 律师事务所，他们将能够完全获得该信息，因此他们可以——关键是，不应公开传播有关债权人的个人信息，因为他们面临人身风险，并且存在他们受到伤害的风险。也有维护该制度完整性的方法，我应当这样说。\n\n因此，我们实际采用的方法是完全公开的。但目标是保护这些可怜的人，他们被认为——要么曾受到威胁，要么相信他们会受到威胁——但仍能够在该程序内提出债权。\n\nHo Wan Kwok 及 Genever Holdings Corp. — November 21, 2022 20\n\n戈德曼先生：法官阁下，我可以代表委员会发言吗？\n\n法庭：我说过可以。我不知道你是否听到了。\n\n戈德曼先生：我只是想表达我们对受托人在此请求救济的支持。郭先生正在实施的滥用行为显而易见。在我 37 年的执业生涯中，我从未见过如此程度的情形；如德斯平斯先生所提到的，它将产生的连锁影响是真实存在的，确实必须予以处理，制度才能正常运作。我想指出，法院实际上可以根据第 105(a) 条依职权作出任何必要命令，以防止程序滥用，这正是该条所述。正如我所说，我认为这里的情况是显而易见的。因此，无论法官阁下选择如何推进，无论是正式依据弗里德曼先生提交的一套文件，还是——当然，我认为您可以依职权这样做。我的发言完毕。\n\n法庭：好的。还有其他人希望发言吗？亨齐律师，您是否已就第 11 章受托人提出的问题与您的委托人讨论过，即如议程所述的社交媒体欺凌和恐吓？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 提交日期 12/06/22 录入日期 12/06/22 08:49:13 第 20 页，共 29 页\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 提交日期 12/06/22 录入日期 12/06/22 08:49:13 第 21 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 及 Genever Holdings Corp. — November 21, 2022 21\n\n亨齐先生：是的。\n\n法庭：而且我相信您上周曾对我说过，我相信您获悉某些视频将会被下架。您是否已与您的委托人讨论过，停止本周末发生的任何事情？\n\n亨齐先生：是的。\n\n法庭：而且您无法向法院陈述，该行为将会停止？\n\n亨齐先生：不能。\n\n法庭：好的。好的。我们今天下午还要处理什么？德斯平斯受托人，您不是有一项命令——您不是需要一项延长移送诉讼时限的命令吗？\n\n德斯平斯先生：是的，我相信 Linsey 先生将处理该事项。很抱歉没有把它列入议程。\n\n林西先生：是的，法官阁下。我们提交了第二项延长时限的动议，以延长移送的截止期限。鉴于本案正在发生的一切，以及受托人目前正在评估的一切，我们认为这应当是适当的。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 提交日期 12/06/22 录入日期 12/06/22 08:49:13 第 22 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 及 Genever Holdings Corp. — November 21, 2022\n\n1 对于我们提交的第一项寻求延长期限的动议，没有人提出异议。我没有看到对本项动议的任何异议。坦率地说，我们也没有预期会有异议。\n\n我们请求加急救济的原因是，现有的延期将于 December 6th 到期。因此，鉴于送达适当，且无人提出异议，我们请求法院准许进一步延期，使现有延期持续至并包括 April 5th of 2023。\n\n法庭：是否有人反对林西律师刚刚在记录中陈述的、关于移送诉讼的延长期限？\n\n好的。既然没有人发言，那么我将审阅该命令，该动议将获准，该命令将予录入，除非命令存在某些问题，我们会通知你们，好吗？\n\n林西先生：谢谢您，法官阁下。\n\n法庭：谢谢。\n\n弗里德曼先生：法官阁下——\n\n法庭：是。\n\n弗里德曼先生：我是 Peter Friedman。因此，在不知道听证会接下来将如何进行的情况下，如有必要，我们是否能够在明天举行临时限制令听证会？\n\n法庭：嗯，今天不是听证会。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 提交日期 12/06/22 录入日期 12/06/22 08:49:13 第 23 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 及 Genever Holdings Corp. — November 21, 2022\n\n1 这是一次状况会议。唯一另行安排的事项是延长移送民事诉讼的时限，而我们刚刚已经处理了该事项。这次会议被特别要求作为状况会议，因此我们现在所做的正是这个。\n\n至于你提交文件，我们明天已经就其他事项安排了听证会。因此，我必须查看你提交的任何文件，也必须查看法院明天能够处理的事项，如果有任何事项的话。这就是我们目前的情况。\n\n我的意思是，我不知道 United States Trustee's Office（美国受托人办公室）对这一切的立场是什么，以及他们处于什么立场。我毫无头绪。\n\n我了解到，在过去一个半小时或更短时间内，就法庭外发生的事情提交了一些文件。\n\n你知道，正如我前几天所说——我想我说过——也许我是在听证会的密封部分说的，这些——嗯，我可能说过——我甚至不记得我是在听证会的公开部分还是密封部分说的，但显然，没人预料到这些问题会在本案中发生，而且这是一个破产案件。\n\n所以，你们都必须做你们认为适当的事情，然后我们再从那里继续。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 提交日期 12/06/22 录入日期 12/06/22 08:49:13 第 24 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 及 Genever Holdings Corp. — November 21, 2022 24\n\n但是，美国受托人办公室——美国受托人办公室是否已看到有关显然在周末和今天发生的、与抗议及此类事项有关的信息？\n\n克莱伯恩女士：是的，法官阁下。我现已收到向法院提交内容的完整、未删节副本。对于所请求的发布，我没有可向法官阁下陈述的正式立场，因为在预期今天的听证会之前，我并未获悉该事项。但我确实想重申我上周所说的话，即美国受托人对外部个人就本案以及就郭先生——在他参与其中的范围内——所实施的行为深感担忧；我们正严肃对待此事，并且一直在与有关主管机关沟通。\n\n法庭：好的。谢谢。好的。再次说明，我理解已经说的内容，而且显然涉及非常严重的问题。我尚未审阅其中任何内容以作出任何认定，而且我不确定我是否——嗯，我们只能看看你们提交什么文件，以及我们接下来如何进行。这些是严重问题，需要以适当方式提出并审查。\n\n弗里德曼先生：法官阁下，我们确实认为存在紧急风险，因此我们将尽快准备并提交文件，并根据法院的意愿，以亲自或远程方式随时出席，以便将这些问题提交到您面前，因为我们确实认为有必要给予紧急救济。事实正在实时发展。诉状和（听不清）持续不断，我们不希望看到任何——你知道，情况已经令人不安。显然，我们不希望看到它进一步发展。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1200 提交日期 12/06/22 录入日期 12/06/22 08:49:13 第 25 页，共 29 页\n\nHo Wan Kwok 及 Genever Holdings Corp. — November 21, 2022\n\n1 法庭：我理解。\n\n德斯平斯先生：而且，法官阁下，人们就本案告诉我的第一件事，以及法官阁下——是永远不要向法官援引第 105 条，而最后一件事——但我明白这种感受。但如果曾有一种情形应当援引第 105 条以保护程序和法院的完整性，那么就是这一种。\n\n我理解您尚未阅读任何内容，因此您不能当场形成意见。理解。但是，我敦促法官阁下阅读并去看看所发布的有关高中照片、我女儿们以及诸如此类事情的内容。这简直是疯狂。\n\n而且他们总是说，哦，我们会保持和平。那要等到有人失控，决定他们需要自行执法，而到那时就太晚了。\n\n因此，如果我可能对此表现得过于戏剧化，我很抱歉。\n\n郭文贵（Ho Wan Kwok）及吉尼弗控股公司（Genever Holdings Corp.）— 2022年11月21日 26 这一点，但我确实强烈认为，这对于本案和司法程序而言至关重要。谢谢您，法官阁下。\n\n法官：谢谢。好的。今天下午还有其他事项需要处理吗？\n\n莫里亚蒂律师（MR. MORIARTY）：法官阁下，詹姆斯·莫里亚蒂（James Moriarty）。我想暂时回到判决前救济及禁令申请这一问题。被申请人的异议应于今天下午5点前提交，且各方均应于今天下午5点前提交其证人和证据清单。既然我们正在讨论将听证会很可能延期至1月的某个日期，我们是否可以认为这些日期已不再适用，从而我们今天无需提交？\n\n德斯平斯律师（MR. DESPINS）：理论上可以，除非郭先生决定在此之前不愿维持现状，那样我们就会处于不利境地。因此，我认为——我们同意那些日期。也同意1月的日期，但必须在（听不清）继续的情况下进行。\n\n莫里亚蒂律师：这没有问题。郭先生实际上并非……的一方当事人——\n\n德斯平斯律师：哦，抱歉。好的。抱歉。那么，（听不清）的另一方需要同意此事。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交 于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记 第 26 页，共 29 页\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交 于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记 第 27 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及吉尼弗控股公司 — 2022年11月21日\n\n莫里亚蒂律师：是的，我明白这一点，也理解并同意您的意见。\n\n但至少我们曾讨论将其提前至12日，而且我们对此已经达成一致。因此，我们的日期将是明天。\n\n然后，假定我们就1月进一步达成协议，我只是想确认今天没有提交文件的要求。\n\n德斯平斯律师：从我们的角度来看，这没有问题，只要我们不会面临这样一种情况：对于1月没有达成协议，然后我们必须按照现有日期继续进行。那将是一个问题。\n\n因此，只要维持暂停状态，我们同意1月的日期。我认为——这就是唯一的问题。我们不会试图在明天让你们缺席败诉。这不是目的。不过，关键在于我们需要就此达成完整协议。\n\n法官：那么，我允许你们在记录之外讨论此事，之后你们可以就日期提交一份命令，或者以你们希望的任何方式推进，以使你们的协议可强制执行。\n\n莫里亚蒂律师：谢谢您，法官阁下。\n\n德斯平斯律师：谢谢您，法官阁下。\n\n法官：好的。谢谢。今天下午还有其他事项吗？\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交 于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记 第 28 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及吉尼弗控股公司 — 2022年11月21日\n\n德斯平斯律师：嗯，那里——我只是提一下，因为我怀疑我们不会就此继续推进，但此前有一项强制提交的动议。我们需要将其延期至某个日期——从我们的角度来看，因为我们正在寻求尽快提交材料。我只是说，这今天不会发生。\n\n法官：对，这今天不会发生。因此，我会看一下，并在接下来的几天里看看情况如何。也许我们可以看看能否安排在下周或再下一周。好吗？\n\n德斯平斯律师：谢谢您，法官阁下。\n\n法官：好的。好的。今天下午还有其他事项吗？\n\n身份不明者（UNIDENTIFIED）：法官阁下，此前有一项关于合并管理的动议，即对法院已准许合并管理的三起案件进行合并管理。但我尚未见到相关命令。我之所以提出，仅是因为对于应使用何种案件标题存在一些混淆。\n\n法官：你们所使用的案件标题应当是主案的案件标题。郭先生的案件。那是第一个名称。我们是否已经收到那份命令？\n\n法庭书记员（THE COURTROOM DEPUTY）：我正要去核查。\n\n法官：我们正在核查。但我们周五全天都在开庭，所以今天仍有其他工作要做。\n\n（暂停。）\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1200 于 12/06/22 提交 于 12/06/22 08:49:13 登记 第 29 页，共 29 页\n\n郭文贵及吉尼弗控股公司 — 2022年11月21日\n\n法官：好的。我们将在本次听证会结束后立即查看该命令，并将尝试在接下来的半小时内予以登记，好吗？\n\n身份不明者：非常感谢您，法官阁下。\n\n法官：好的。谢谢。\n\n德斯平斯律师：谢谢。\n\n法官：好的。休庭。\n\n（庭审于下午2:56结束。）\n\n本人，克里斯汀·菲奥雷（CHRISTINE FIORE），认证电子法庭记录员及誊录员，特此证明，前述内容系根据上述案件庭审程序的官方电子录音制作的正确誊本。\n\n2022年12月4日\n\nChristine Fiore，CERT","key_entities":["Kwok","Ho Wan Kwok","Despins","Je","Guo","Paul Hastings","CIPA","Luc Despins","CCP"],"ecf_references":[],"word_count":8194,"status":"published","published_at":"2022-12-06 00:00:00","created_at":"2022-12-06","updated_at":"2026-08-23 20:20:35"}