{"id":"court_ctb_1250_0","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":1250,"sub_number":0,"doc_type":"TRANSCRIPT","filed_date":"2022-12-19","title":"UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION In Re \\* Case No. 22-50073 (JAM) \\* HO WAN KW","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION In Re \\* Case No. 22-50073 (JAM) \\* HO WAN KWOK, \\* Bridgeport, Connecticut \\* September 13, 2022 Debtor. \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* \\* TRANSCRIPT OF MOTION FOR ODER BEFORE THE HONORABLE JULIE A. MANNING UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY JUDGE APPEARANCES: For the Debtor: AARON ROMNEY, ESQ. JAMES MORIARTY, ESQ. Zeisler & Zeisler, P.C. 10 Middle Street, 15th Floor Bridgeport, CT 06604 For the Creditor, Pacific PETER FRIEDMAN, ESQ. Alliance Asia Opportunity O'Melveny & Myers LLP Fund L.P.: Times Square Tower 7 Times Square New York, NY 10036 ANNECCA SMITH, ESQ. Robinson & Cole 28 Trumbull Street Hartford, CT 06103 For the Chapter 11 Trustee: NICHOLAS A. BASSETT, ESQ. Paul Hastings LLP 200 Park Avenue New York, NY 10166 Proceedings recorded by electronic sound recording, transcript produced by transcription service. **Fiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc. 4 Research Drive, Suite 402 Shelton, Connecticut 06484 (203)929-9992**\n\nAPPEARANCES Cont'd: For the Chapter 11 PATRICK R. LINSEY, ESQ. Trustee: Neubert Pepe & Monteith, PC 195 Church Street New Haven, CT 06510 Chapter 11 Trustee: LUC A. DESPINS, ESQ. Paul Hastings LLP 200 Park Avenue New York, NY 10166 For the Creditors Committee: IRVE GOLDMAN, ESQ. Pullman & Comley 850 Main Street Bridgeport, CT 06601 For the U.S. Trustee: HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN, ESQ. Office of the United States Trustee The Giaimo Federal Building 150 Court Street, Room 302 New Haven, CT 06510 For the Creditor, JAY MARSHALL WOLMAN, ESQ. Logan Cheng: Randazza Legal Group, PLLC 100 Pearl Street, 14th Floor Hartford, CT 06103\n\n (Proceedings commenced at 3:32 p.m.) THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Case Number 22-50073, Ho Wan Kwok. THE COURT: Okay. Good afternoon. If we could have appearances for the record, beginning with the Chapter 11 trustee, please? MR. DESPINS: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Luc Despins, Chapter 11 trustee. MR. BASSETT: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Nick Bassett, from Paul Hastings, on behalf of the Chapter 11 trustee. MR. LINSEY: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Patrick Linsey for the trustee. THE COURT: Attorney Friedman? MR. FRIEDMAN: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Peter Friedman, from O'Melveny and Myers, on behalf of PAX. I also see Ms. Smith with the Robinson Cole firm. Annecca Smith with the Robinson Cole firm on behalf of PAX. THE COURT: Thank you. MR. GOLDMAN: Good afternoon, Your Honor -- good afternoon, Your Honor. Irve Goldman, Pullman and Comley, for the Creditor's Committee. THE COURT: Good afternoon. And then counsel for the debtor? MR. ROMNEY: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Aaron\n\n| 1  | Romney, Zeisler and Zeisler, for the debtor.                 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | MR. MORIARTY:<br>Good afternoon, Your Honor.<br>James        |\n| 3  | Moriarty, Zeisler and Zeisler, on behalf of the debtor.      |\n| 4  | THE COURT:<br>Good afternoon.<br>Attorney Wolman?            |\n| 5  | MR. WOLMAN:<br>Good afternoon, Your Honor.<br>Jay            |\n| 6  | Wolman, of Randazza Legal Group, for creditor, Logan Cheng.  |\n| 7  | THE COURT:<br>Good afternoon.                                |\n| 8  | MS. CLAIBORN:<br>And, Your Honor, Holley Claiborn            |\n| 9  | for the U.S. Trustee, present in the courtroom.              |\n| 10 | THE COURT:<br>Good afternoon.<br>Attorney Claiborn was       |\n| 11 | here on several other matters today so she stayed here to be |\n| 12 | in the courtroom as opposed to possibly being in transit     |\n| 13 | when the hearing started.                                    |\n| 14 | So in any event, I haven't -- all I know is                  |\n| 15 | something was just filed.<br>Is it a consent order?          |\n| 16 | MR. BASSETT:<br>It is, Your Honor.                           |\n| 17 | THE COURT:<br>Okay.<br>Great.<br>Let me open it up.          |\n| 18 | Okay.<br>I see in Paragraph 7 of the consent order           |\n| 19 | that was just filed on the docket about six minutes ago,     |\n| 20 | that Paragraph 7 -- the time frame has changed with regard   |\n| 21 | to the production of documents, and subject to the right to  |\n| 22 | make a good faith -- to make a motion in good faith for a    |\n| 23 | reasonable extension of time, to log all such documents in   |\n| 24 | accordance with the requirements of District of Connecticut  |\n| 25 | Local Rule of Civil Procedure 26(e).                         |\n\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.\n\n And then there's a footnote. I'm not sure if that footnote was in the prior version, but maybe it was. MR. BASSETT: It was, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. MR. BASSETT: And, Your Honor, if helpful, I mean, I can just give you a brief overview. THE COURT: Sure. Go ahead. MR. BASSETT: Nick Bassett. Nick Bassett, from Paul Hastings, on behalf of the Chapter 11 trustee. We worked with Attorney Romney over the last 24 hours to try to come to a resolution, and obviously happy to report that we have. We appreciate his efforts and everyone else's in that regard. But the changes to the order that we submitted are really pretty minor. I mean, there are some wording changes in other parts of the order that we were -- that we ultimately, you know, were able to come to an agreement on. I don't know, since this is on consent, if the Court wants me to go through every single wording change. As it relates to Paragraph 7, you are correct, Your Honor. We did address the time production issue per the Court's instructions. You highlighted that. The other change in that paragraph, consistent with the discussion we had with Your Honor, is that the time for seeking relief on an expedited basis instead of four\n\n days to respond to a motion with a reply two days thereafter. It's now eight days with a reply of four days thereafter, so we did in fact meet in the middle on that. And then, you know, otherwise really there are just some wording changes that we made to other paragraphs. But in terms of what we discussed at the last hearing, those are -- you know, those are the key adjustments that were made to that Paragraph 7. THE COURT: The only thing I see in Paragraph 7 that I mentioned yesterday that looks like it's still there is in the fourth line. It says, \"Then 1, the debtor or his counsel.\" MR. BASSETT: You know what, Your Honor? That may be -- that may be our mistake because you very clearly asked for that change and I think we just were focused on our differences and failed to -- THE COURT: Sure. MR. BASSETT: -- failed to implement it, but we're happy to make that adjustment and submit a Word version of the revised order. THE COURT: That would be helpful. MR. ROMNEY: The intention certainly -- I'm sorry, Your Honor. THE COURT: Go ahead, Attorney Romney. MR. ROMNEY: The intent was certainly not that the\n\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.\n\n debtor would be filing any pro se, documents regarding this issue. It was -- it was distinguishing between myself and my colleagues, debtor's counsel versus prior counsel that had been served with a subpoena, and Attorney Bassett is correct, we -- in trying to resolve our differences, we neglected to fix that issue and I'm sure we can take care of that as soon as we adjourn. THE COURT: If the document is submitted in Word format to the courtroom deputy box, we can make that change. All it's going to change to is the debtor's counsel and the words, as applicable, will be deleted. Okay? MR. ROMNEY: Understood. MR. BASSETT: We will get you the (indiscernible) Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. And then -- so because the changes that were made in 7 are now on consent, then Paragraph 8 falls into place as well because it has the same time frames and issues regarding expedited review, correct? MR. BASSETT: That's correct, Your Honor. MR. ROMNEY: Correct, Your Honor. THE COURT: And then there were no changes -- I don't think there were any changes to Paragraph 9 at -- other than what we discussed yesterday. MR. ROMNEY: That's correct. Paragraph 9 was in\n\n agreement as of yesterday, Your Honor. THE COURT: Right. MR. ROMNEY: And there were no changes to it since then. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Well, the consent order looks good to me. I obviously appreciate all the efforts of the parties in resolving this matter to this point, and we -- and the consent order will enter with that minor change noted on the record, and is there anything else that we should address this afternoon with regard to this issue? MR. DESPINS: Your Honor, sorry to interrupt. Luc Despins, Chapter 11 Trustee. So two minor matters. The first one is I just want to make this comment, and I think it's pretty clear, but just to avoid any, you know, any disputes later, you know, the trustee would not have agreed with these various changes but for the fact that people understand that this order contains, you know, built-in procedures that will be followed, and that no appeals will issue from that process. So I think that's important. The second point -- and I don't think we need to put that in the order. I think it's obvious, but I wanted to state it anyway. The second point is -- and I'm sorry, I don't want\n\n to abuse the privilege, but we don't have a status conference for a little while now, so I just wanted to put back in front of Your Honor, the Ace Decade thing. Again, not for a ruling, but at this point they've had like, more than two weeks' advanced notice of the fact that will want the information about these two companies, Ace Decade and its subsidiary. So we just want to make sure it's on top of your file. And I know your file is very thick and you have a lot of things to cover, but I just want to make sure that was -- that's -- that remains on top of that file. Thank you, Your Honor. THE COURT: Thank you. And I will note for the record, that after you -- Trustee Despins raised the issue yesterday, I did review the document that you filed on the docket that was the testimony of Mr. Kwok during a continued 341 meeting on April 6th, 2022, I believe. I believe I'm correct on that date. And that Mr. Kwok testified that he owned Ace, the Ace entity, which I believe is also a plaintiff in the UBS litigation. Is that correct? MR. DESPINS: That's correct, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. MR. DESPINS: And is a 100 percent parent of the other company called Dawn State. THE COURT: Okay. So you are looking for -- you\n\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.\n\n sent a letter, which I don't -- Trustee Despins, the letter you're talking about when you requested the turnover of that information, is that on the docket of this case? I'm not saying it should be, I'm just asking. MR. DESPINS: No, Your Honor. No. No, it's not, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. MR. DESPINS: But basically the letter said, pursuant to the corporate governance order, please respond just by Tuesday of -- it was Tuesday of last week, as to the -- you know, why we're not getting -- why we should not be getting the shares and the corporate governance documents with respect to these two entities. Mr. Henzy said he needed more time. Your Honor said -- took it under advisement. So at this point, we're only asking for the Court to give them a short, you know, time period by which to respond. I'm not asking you to rule on the merits. Maybe they'll raise something that would make what we all think to be the case wrong, but the point is, they need to get on with it and give us a response. That's all we're asking for. THE COURT: Understood. Attorney Romney or Attorney Moriarty, do you have any response with regard to the Ace entity issue and the turnover of the information to\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1250 Filed 12/19/22 Entered 12/19/22 13:50:44 Page 11 of 15\n\n the trustee at this time? If you don't, that's fine. I am just asking you while we're all here today. MR. ROMNEY: Thank you, Your Honor. For the record, Aaron Romney, Zeisler and Zeisler. Mr. Henzy is handling that matter. Him and Attorney Kindseth are in New York currently dealing with an unrelated matter, so I haven't had a chance to discuss the issue with him, so -- this came up on the record yesterday. They'll both be back in Connecticut, I believe Thursday, and I plan to raise this with them. If I can get a hold of them before then, I will. I believe this came up and we had a response date, and Attorney Henzy is handling this matter. I have no knowledge of it other than what's been put on the record at our various hearings. My recollection was there was a date by which we were to respond to that already on the record, so I would ask that that date remain, and if we can respond sooner, we certainly can. I just don't want to speak for Attorney Henzy without him present. THE COURT: I think the date has already passed. MR. DESPINS: No, there was no -- there was no date, Your Honor. THE COURT: I think the date has already passed. MR. DESPINS: Yes, the date passed and it was\n\n Tuesday -- it was Tuesday, the last hearing date. THE COURT: Your September 6th -- MR. DESPINS: Sorry, not the last hearing, but the hearing -- THE COURT: -- I believe. Yeah. MR. DESPINS: Correct. THE COURT: I believe the response date was September 6th, Attorney Romney. And I think that's why the trustee is -- MR. ROMNEY: I had thought there was a -- THE COURT: -- raising the issue. MR. ROMNEY: I had thought there was a date towards the end of the month. I may be conflating issues. There are admittedly a number of them in this case. MR. DESPINS: No, no, there was (indiscernible). MR. ROMNEY: Oh, that -- no, that's correct. I apologize. I -- that is what I was thinking of when I thought there was a date, because it -- what I will -- I just don't want to speak out of turn here because I don't -- I have not had any involvement in the UBS matter or the Ace entity. I can try to get a hold of Attorney Henzy, if you'd like to recess, or we can -- or if the Court wants to schedule a response deadline, obviously we will make sure that it's followed. I just do not have any -- I don't have\n\n any information about that. THE COURT: That's fine. MR. ROMNEY: I've been focused on getting this privilege issue resolved, Your Honor. THE COURT: That's fine. As I said, I -- just since we were all here, I was asking you the question. If you don't have a response right at the moment, that's fine. I will look back at what was said on the record and I -- and I'll take it from there. But I did -- so you know, Attorney Romney, and you can communicate this to your colleagues, I did review what Trustee Despins filed on the docket of the case yesterday, which is the 341 testimony of your client with regard to the ownership of the entity at issue. Okay? MR. ROMNEY: Understood, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you all for your continued efforts in producing what is now a consent order. Attorney Bassett, when you have a chance to -- and maybe you already have while we've been talking -- email the Word version of the document to the courtroom deputy, we'll make that minor change to Paragraph 7, and then the order can enter. Okay? MR. BASSETT: Absolutely, Your Honor. THE COURT: And I don't -- I'm not even sure when\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1250 Filed 12/19/22 Entered 12/19/22 13:50:44 Page 14 of 15\n\n our next hearing is, but I think it might be in two weeks or something like that, unless something else comes up before then. So I -- MR. DESPINS: I forget myself. THE COURT: All right. Yeah. I do too. But in any event, I do very much appreciate the efforts of the parties to try to resolve this issue. Yes, do have some hearings on September 27th. I'm looking right now, and I don't know if we have any before then, but in any event we definitely do on the 27th. So we will go from there. Okay? That's only two weeks from today. All right. Is there anything further that we should address while we are together this afternoon? (No audible response) THE COURT: Okay. Hearing none -- nothing, then Attorney Romney, I know you have some timing deadlines this afternoon so the good news is, we're done well before 4:30, and I appreciate the efforts of you and Attorney Bassett, I'm sure in particular. You both worked on this and that order will enter, and then we will -- we'll go from there. Okay? So this is the last -- MR. BASSETT: Thank you very much, Your Honor. THE COURT: Thank you. And this is the last matter on today's calender, so court is adjourned.\n\n|    | 15                                                          |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | MR. ROMNEY:<br>Thank you.                                   |\n| 2  | MR. DESPINS:<br>Thank you, Your Honor.                      |\n| 3  | (Proceedings concluded at 3:47 p.m.)                        |\n| 4  | I, CHRISTINE FIORE, court-approved transcriber and          |\n| 5  | certified electronic reporter and transcriber, certify that |\n| 6  | the foregoing is a correct transcript from the official     |\n| 7  | electronic sound recording of the proceedings in the above  |\n| 8  | entitled matter.                                            |\n| 9  |                                                             |\n| 10 |                                                             |\n| 11 | December 19, 2022                                           |\n| 12 | Christine Fiore, CERT                                       |\n| 13 | Transcriber                                                 |\n| 14 |                                                             |\n| 15 |                                                             |\n| 16 |                                                             |\n| 17 |                                                             |\n| 18 |                                                             |\n| 19 |                                                             |\n| 20 |                                                             |\n| 21 |                                                             |\n| 22 |                                                             |\n| 23 |                                                             |\n|    |                                                             |\n|    |                                                             |\n|    |                                                             |","body_zh":"UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION（美国康涅狄格区破产法院布里奇波特分部）\n关于 * 案号 22-50073 (JAM)\n*\nHO WAN KWOK（郭文贵），* 康涅狄格州布里奇波特\n* 2022年9月13日\n债务人。*\n* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *\n动议裁定听证会文字记录\n审理法官：HONORABLE JULIE A. MANNING（朱莉·A·曼宁法官阁下）\nUNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY JUDGE（美国破产法官）\n出庭人员：\n代表债务人：\nAARON ROMNEY, ESQ.（亚伦·罗姆尼律师）\nJAMES MORIARTY, ESQ.（詹姆斯·莫里亚蒂律师）\nZeisler & Zeisler, P.C.\n10 Middle Street, 15th Floor\nBridgeport, CT 06604\n代表债权人 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（太盟亚洲机会基金有限公司）：\nPETER FRIEDMAN, ESQ.（彼得·弗里德曼律师）\nO'Melveny & Myers LLP（美迈斯律师事务所）\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, NY 10036\nANNECCA SMITH, ESQ.（安妮卡·史密斯律师）\nRobinson & Cole\n28 Trumbull Street\nHartford, CT 06103\n代表第11章破产受托人：\nNICHOLAS A. BASSETT, ESQ.（尼古拉斯·A·巴塞特律师）\nPaul Hastings LLP（普衡律师事务所）\n200 Park Avenue\nNew York, NY 10166\n诉讼程序由电子录音记录，文字记录由转录服务机构制作。\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.\n4 Research Drive, Suite 402\nShelton, Connecticut 06484\n(203)929-9992\n\n出庭人员续：\n代表第11章受托人：\nPATRICK R. LINSEY, ESQ.（帕特里克·R·林西律师）\nNeubert Pepe & Monteith, PC\n195 Church Street\nNew Haven, CT 06510\n第11章受托人：\nLUC A. DESPINS, ESQ.（卢克·A·德斯平斯律师）\nPaul Hastings LLP\n200 Park Avenue\nNew York, NY 10166\n代表债权人委员会：\nIRVE GOLDMAN, ESQ.（欧文·高德曼律师）\nPullman & Comley\n850 Main Street\nBridgeport, CT 06601\n代表美国受托人：\nHOLLEY L. CLAIBORN, ESQ.（霍莉·L·克莱伯恩律师）\nOffice of the United States Trustee（美国受托人办公室）\nThe Giaimo Federal Building\n150 Court Street, Room 302\nNew Haven, CT 06510\n代表债权人 Logan Cheng（郑乐根）：\nJAY MARSHALL WOLMAN, ESQ.（杰伊·马歇尔·沃尔曼律师）\nRandazza Legal Group, PLLC\n100 Pearl Street, 14th Floor\nHartford, CT 06103\n\n（诉讼程序于下午3:32开始）\n法庭副书记官：案号 22-50073，Ho Wan Kwok。\n法庭：好的。下午好。请各位为记录登记出庭身份，先从第11章受托人开始，好吗？\n德斯平斯先生：下午好，法官阁下。Luc Despins，第11章受托人。\n巴塞特先生：下午好，法官阁下。Nick Bassett，来自普衡律师事务所，代表第11章受托人。\n林西先生：下午好，法官阁下。Patrick Linsey 代表受托人。\n法庭：弗里德曼律师？\n弗里德曼先生：下午好，法官阁下。Peter Friedman，来自美迈斯律师事务所，代表 PAX。我还看到 Robinson Cole 律师事务所的史密斯女士。Robinson Cole 律师事务所的 Annecca Smith 代表 PAX。\n法庭：谢谢。\n高德曼先生：下午好，法官阁下——下午好，法官阁下。Irve Goldman，来自 Pullman and Comley，代表债权人委员会。\n法庭：下午好。然后是债务人的代理律师？\n罗姆尼先生：下午好，法官阁下。Aaron\n\n1 Romney，来自 Zeisler and Zeisler，代表债务人。\n\n2 莫里亚蒂先生：\n下午好，法官阁下。\nJames\n3 Moriarty，来自 Zeisler and Zeisler，代表债务人。\n4 法庭：\n下午好。\n沃尔曼律师？\n5 沃尔曼先生：\n下午好，法官阁下。\nJay\n6 Wolman，来自 Randazza Legal Group，代表债权人 Logan Cheng。\n7 法庭：\n下午好。\n8 克莱伯恩女士：\n还有，法官阁下，Holley Claiborn\n9 代表美国受托人，现出庭于法庭内。\n10 法庭：\n下午好。\n克莱伯恩律师今天因为其他几起案件\n11 来到这里，所以她留在了法庭内，\n12 而不是在听证会开始时\n13 可能还在路上。\n14 那么无论如何，我还没有——我只知道\n15 刚刚提交了一份文件。\n是一份同意裁定吗？\n16 巴塞特先生：\n是的，法官阁下。\n17 法庭：\n好的。\n太好了。\n让我打开看一下。\n18 好的。\n我看到在大约六分钟前刚提交到卷宗的\n19 同意裁定第7段中，\n20 第7段——关于文件出示的时间范围\n21 发生了变化，并且受制于以善意提出——以善意提出动议\n22 申请合理延期的权利，以按照\n24 康涅狄格区民事诉讼本地规则 26(e) 的要求\n25 对所有此类文件进行登记。\n\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.\n\n然后有一个脚注。我不确定那个脚注是否在前一版本中就有，但也许之前就有。\n巴塞特先生：之前就有的，法官阁下。\n法庭：好的。谢谢。\n巴塞特先生：而且，法官阁下，如果有帮助的话，我的意思是，我可以给您做一个简要概述。\n法庭：好的。请讲。\n巴塞特先生：Nick Bassett。Nick Bassett，来自普衡律师事务所，代表第11章受托人。在过去24小时里，我们与罗姆尼律师一起努力尝试达成解决方案，显然很高兴地向您汇报我们已经达成了。我们感谢他以及其他所有人在这方面的努力。但是我们提交的裁定变更确实非常小。我的意思是，在裁定的其他部分有一些文字措辞上的修改，我们——我们最终，您知道，能够达成一致。我不知道，既然这是经同意达成的，法庭是否希望我逐一过一遍每一处文字修改。关于第7段，您说得对，法官阁下。我们确实按照法庭的指示处理了出示时间的问题。您之前强调了这一点。该段落中的另一处修改，与我们与法官阁下讨论的内容一致，即以加急程序寻求救济的时间，原为四\n\n天内对动议作出回应，其后两天内作出答辩。现在是八天内，其后四天内作出答辩，所以我们实际上在这方面折中达成了妥协。然后，您知道，除此之外实际上就是我们对其他段落做的一些文字修改。但就我们在上次听证会上讨论的内容而言，那些就是——您知道，那些是对该第7段所做的关键调整。\n法庭：我在第7段中看到的、我昨天提到过的但看起来仍然保留在那里的唯一一处是在第四行。上面写着，“Then 1, the debtor or his counsel（那么1，债务人或其律师）。”\n巴塞特先生：您知道吗，法官阁下？那可能是——那可能是我们的失误，因为您非常明确地要求做那处修改，我认为我们当时只是专注于我们的分歧，而未能——\n法庭：好的。\n巴塞特先生：——未能予以落实，但我们很乐意做出那项调整并提交一份修改后裁定的 Word 版本。\n法庭：那会有所帮助。\n罗姆尼先生：我们的意图当然——抱歉，法官阁下。\n法庭：请讲，罗姆尼律师。\n罗姆尼先生：意图当然不是让\n\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.\n\n债务人就此问题自行提交任何文件。这是——这是为了区分我本人及我的同事（即债务人的代理律师）与之前已被送达传票的前任律师，而且巴塞特律师说得对，我们——在试图解决我们分歧的过程中，我们疏忽了修正那个问题，我相信我们休庭后就可以马上处理好。\n法庭：如果文件以 Word 格式提交到法庭副书记官的邮箱，我们可以做出那项修改。它所要修改的只是改为债务人的代理律师，并且视情况而定等字样将被删除。好吗？\n罗姆尼先生：明白了。\n巴塞特先生：我们会把（听不清）提交给您，法官阁下。\n法庭：好的。谢谢。然后——所以因为第7段所做的修改现在是基于同意的，那么第8段也就顺理成章地确定了，因为它具有相同的时间范围和关于加急审查的问题，对吗？\n巴塞特先生：对的，法官阁下。\n罗姆尼先生：对的，法官阁下。\n法庭：然后没有其他修改——我认为除了我们昨天讨论的内容之外，第9段没有任何修改。\n罗姆尼先生：对的。第9段截至\n\n昨天已达成一致，法官阁下。\n法庭：对。\n罗姆尼先生：并且自那时起没有任何修改。\n法庭：好的。好的。那么，这份同意裁定在我看来没有问题。我显然很感谢各方截至目前为解决这一事项所付出的所有努力，我们——同意裁定将在记录下这一微小修改后予以生效下达，今天下午就这一问题我们还有其他什么需要处理的吗？\n德斯平斯先生：法官阁下，很抱歉打断。Luc Despins，第11章受托人。有两件小事。第一件是我只想作此说明，而且我认为这很清楚，但只是为了避免以后发生任何，您知道，任何争议，您知道，若不是因为大家理解该裁定包含有，您知道，将得到遵守的内置程序，并且该程序之后不会提出任何上诉，受托人是不会同意这些各项修改的。所以我认为这很重要。第二点——而且我认为我们不需要把这写进裁定里。我认为这是显而易见的，但我还是想陈述一下。第二点是——很抱歉，我不想\n\n滥用特权，但我们从现在起有一段时间不会举行状态会议了，所以我只是想再次呈请法官阁下注意 Ace Decade 的事情。再次声明，不是为了寻求裁决，而是此时此刻他们已经获得了超过两周的事先通知，知悉将需要关于这两家公司（Ace Decade 及其子公司）的信息。所以我们只是想确保它放在您的案卷最上面。我知道您的案卷很厚，您有很多事情要处理，但我只是想确保那件事曾经——那是——那仍然留在该案卷的最上面。谢谢，法官阁下。\n法庭：谢谢。而且我要记入记录的是，在您——受托人德斯平斯昨天提出该问题之后，我确实审查了您在卷宗中提交的那份文件，那是郭先生在2022年4月6日（我相信是这一天）举行的续行341会议期间的证言。我相信该日期没有错。并且郭先生作证说他拥有 Ace，即 Ace 实体，我相信该实体也是 UBS 诉讼中的原告。是这样吗？\n德斯平斯先生：是的，法官阁下。\n法庭：好的。\n德斯平斯先生：并且是另一家名为 Dawn State 公司的百分之百母公司。\n法庭：好的。所以你们正在寻求——你们\n\nFiore Reporting and Transcription Service, Inc.\n\n发了一封信，我不知道——受托人德斯平斯，你谈到的那封请求移交该信息的信函，是否在本案的卷宗中？我不是说它应当在卷宗里，我只是问一下。\n德斯平斯先生：不在，法官阁下。不在。不在，它不在卷宗里，法官阁下。\n法庭：好的。\n德斯平斯先生：但基本上那封信说的是，根据公司治理裁定，请在——就是上周二之前做出回应，说明——您知道，为什么我们没有收到——为什么我们不应该收到关于这两个实体的股份和公司治理文件。Henzy 先生说他需要更多时间。法官阁下说——决定留待斟酌。所以在现阶段，我们只是请求法庭给他们一个简短的，您知道，做出回应的时限。我不是要求您就实体问题作出裁决。也许他们会提出某些理由，证明我们大家所认为的情况是不对的，但关键是，他们需要继续推进并给我们一个回应。这就是我们所请求的全部内容。\n法庭：明白了。罗姆尼律师或莫里亚蒂律师，关于 Ace 实体问题以及向其移交信息之事，你们有什么回应吗\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1250 提交于 12/19/22 入卷于 12/19/22 13:50:44 第 11 页，共 15 页\n\n此时对受托人作出答复吗？如果您无法答复，也没关系。我只是趁大家今天都在这里问一下。罗姆尼先生（MR. ROMNEY）：谢谢您，法官阁下。为记录在案，我是 Zeisler and Zeisler（蔡斯勒律师事务所）的 Aaron Romney（亚伦·罗姆尼）。Henzy（亨兹）先生正在处理该事项。他和 Kindseth（金德塞斯）律师目前在纽约处理一项不相关的事务，所以我还没机会与他讨论这个问题，所以——这在昨天的记录中提到了。我相信他们周四都会回到 Connecticut（康涅狄格州），我打算向他们提出此事。如果在此之前我能联系上他们，我会的。我相信当时提到了此事，并且我们有一个答复日期，而亨兹律师正在处理此项事务。除了在我们多次听证会上记录在案的内容之外，我对此一无所知。我的回忆是记录中已经有一个我们应当据此作出答复的日期，因此我请求保留该日期，如果能更早答复，我们当然可以。我只是不想在亨兹律师不在场的情况下替他发言。法庭：我认为那个日期已经过了。德斯平斯先生（MR. DESPINS）：不，当时没有——没有设定日期，法官阁下。法庭：我认为那个日期已经过了。德斯平斯先生：是的，日期过了，那是\n\n周二——那是周二，也就是上次听证会的日期。法庭：你的 9月6日—— 德斯平斯先生：抱歉，不是上次听证会，而是那次听证会—— 法庭：——我相信是。是的。德斯平斯先生：没错。法庭：我相信答复日期是 9月6日，罗姆尼律师。而且我认为这就是受托人—— 罗姆尼先生：我原以为有一个—— 法庭：——提出该问题的原因。罗姆尼先生：我原以为有一个靠近月底的日期。我可能把问题弄混了。无可否认，本案中确实有许多问题。德斯平斯先生：不，不，那是（听不清）。罗姆尼先生：噢，那个——不，那是对的。我道歉。我——当我以为有一个日期时，我指的是那个，因为——我将要——我只是不想在这里冒失发言，因为我没有——我完全没有参与 UBS（瑞银）事项或 Ace 实体。如果您希望休庭，我可以尝试联系亨兹律师，或者我们可以——或者如果法庭希望设定一个答复截止日期，显然我们将确保予以遵守。我只是没有任何——我没有\n\n关于此事的任何信息。法庭：没关系。罗姆尼先生：法官阁下，我一直专注于解决这个特权问题。法庭：没关系。正如我所说，我——只是因为大家都在这里，所以我向你提了这个问。如果你目前无法答复，也没关系。我会回顾记录中所说的内容，然后我——我将以此为基础来处理。但我确实——告知你一下，罗姆尼律师，你可以向你的同事传达这一点，我确实审查了 Despins（德斯平斯）受托人昨天在本案卷宗中提交的内容，也就是你的当事人就涉案实体的所有权问题所作的 341 条款证言。好吗？罗姆尼先生：明白，法官阁下。法庭：好的。谢谢。好的。那么，感谢各位继续努力达成现在这份同意裁定/命令。Bassett（巴塞特）律师，当你方便时——也许在我们谈话期间你已经发了——把该文件的 Word 版本电邮给法庭助理，我们将对第 7 款进行那项细微修改，然后该裁定/命令即可签署生效。好吗？巴塞特先生（MR. BASSETT）：当然可以，法官阁下。法庭：而且我不——我甚至不确定\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1250 Filed 12/19/22 Entered 12/19/22 13:50:44 Page 14 of 15\n\n我们的下一次听证会是什么时候，但我认为可能是在两周后左右，除非在此之前发生其他情况。所以我—— 德斯平斯先生：我自己也忘了。法庭：好的。是的。我也是。但无论如何，我非常感谢各方为试图解决这个问题所作出的努力。是的，在 9月27日确实有一些听证会。我现在正在看日程，我不知道在此之前我们是否有任何听证会，但无论如何 27日肯定有。所以我们将以此为基础继续推进。好吗？离今天只有两周了。好的。今天下午我们聚在一起，还有其他需要处理的事项吗？（无出声答复）法庭：好的。没有听到任何——没有任何问题，那么罗姆尼律师，我知道你今天下午有一些时间上的截止期限，所以好消息是，我们在 4:30 之前就结束了，我非常感谢你以及巴塞特律师所作出的努力，相信你们尤其辛苦。你们双方都为此开展了工作，该裁定/命令将会签署生效，然后我们将——我们将以此为基础继续推进。好吗？所以这是最后一项—— 巴塞特先生：非常感谢您，法官阁下。法庭：谢谢。这是今天日程上的最后一项事项，现在休庭。\n1 罗姆尼先生：\n谢谢。\n2 德斯平斯先生：\n谢谢您，法官阁下。\n3 （庭审于下午 3:47 结束）\n4 本人，CHRISTINE FIORE（克里斯汀·菲奥雷），法院认可的转录员兼\n5 认证电子记录员和转录员，特此证明\n6 上述内容为上述\n7 标题事项庭审诉讼程序的官方\n8 电子录音的正确转录本。\n\n11 2022年12月19日\n12 Christine Fiore, CERT（克里斯汀·菲奥雷，认证转录员）\n13 转录员","key_entities":["Despins","Kwok","Paul Hastings","Ho Wan Kwok","Luc Despins","Je","Pro Se","pro se"],"ecf_references":[],"word_count":3104,"status":"published","published_at":"2022-12-19 00:00:00","created_at":"2022-12-19","updated_at":"2026-08-23 13:27:21"}