{"id":"court_ctb_1604_23","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":1604,"sub_number":23,"doc_type":"EXHIBIT","filed_date":"2023-03-27","title":"Exhibit 23 ![](_page_1_Picture_1.jpeg)","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"## **Exhibit 23**\n\n![](_page_1_Picture_1.jpeg)\n\n*DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019*\n\n![](_page_1_Picture_3.jpeg)\n\n*Original File 293035B.txt Min-U-Script® with Word Index* Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 3 of 140\n\n**1**\n\n **1 SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK 2 COUNTY OF NEW YORK -----------------------------------------X 3 PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P., 4 Plaintiff, 5 - against - 6 KWOK HO WAN, a/k/a KWOK HO, a/k/a GWO 7 WEN GUI, a/k/a GUO WENGUI, a/k/a GUO WEN-GUI, a/k/a WAN GUE HAOYUN, a/k/a 8 MILES KWOK, a/k/a HAOYUN GUO, 9 Defendant. 10 Index No.: 652077/2017 -----------------------------------------X 11 12 605 Third Avenue New York, New York 13 December 11, 2019 14 2:56 p.m. 15 16 VIDEOTAPED EXAMINATION BEFORE TRIAL 17 of DANIEL PODHASKIE, before Melissa Gilmore, a 18 Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public of the 19 State of New York. 20 21 22 23 ELLEN GRAUER COURT REPORTING CO., LLC 126 East 56th Street, Fifth Floor 24 New York, New York 10022 212-750-6434 25 REF: 293035B**\n\n| 1  | A P P E A R A N C E S:             |\n|----|------------------------------------|\n| 2  |                                    |\n| 3  | O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP              |\n| 4  | Attorneys for Plaintiff            |\n| 5  | 7 Times Square                     |\n| 6  | New York, New York 10036           |\n| 7  | BY:<br>EDWARD MOSS, ESQ.           |\n| 8  | STUART SARNOFF, ESQ.               |\n| 9  | ELI A. GROSSMAN, ESQ.              |\n| 10 | PHONE 212-728-5651                 |\n| 11 | E-MAIL emoss@omm.com               |\n| 12 | ssarnoff@omm.com                   |\n| 13 | egrossman@omm.com                  |\n| 14 |                                    |\n| 15 |                                    |\n| 16 | HODGSON RUSS LLP                   |\n| 17 | Attorneys for Defendant            |\n| 18 | 605 Third Avenue, Suite 2300       |\n| 19 | New York, New York 10158           |\n| 20 | BY:<br>JILLIAN MARIE SEARLES, ESQ. |\n| 21 | PHONE 646-218-7591                 |\n| 22 | E-MAIL jsearles@hodgsonruss.com    |\n| 23 |                                    |\n| 24 |                                    |\n| 25 |                                    |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 5 of 140\n\n```\n 1 A P P E A R A N C E S: (Cont'd)\n 2\n 3 LAWALL & MITCHELL, LLC\n 4 Attorneys for the Genever Entities\n 5 55 Madison Avenue\n 6 Morristown, New Jersey 07960\n 7 BY: AARON A. MITCHELL, ESQ.\n 8 PHONE 914-760-8963\n 9 E-MAIL aaron@lmesq.com\n10\n11\n12 ALSO PRESENT:\n13 YVETTE WANG, Genever\n14 DAN MACOM, Videographer\n15\n16\n17\n18\n19\n20\n21\n22\n23\n24\n25\n```\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 6 of 140\n\n| 1  |                  | ------------------- I N D E X ------------------- |          |\n|----|------------------|---------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | WITNESS          | EXAMINATION BY                                    | PAGE     |\n| 3  | DANIEL PODHASKIE | MR. MOSS                                          | 8        |\n| 4  |                  | MR. MITCHELL                                      | 119      |\n| 5  |                  |                                                   |          |\n| 6  | DIRECTIONS:      | PAGE 91, 93                                       |          |\n| 7  |                  |                                                   |          |\n| 8  |                  |                                                   |          |\n| 9  |                  | ---------------- E X H I B I T S ---------------- |          |\n| 10 | PODHASKIE        | DESCRIPTION                                       | FOR I.D. |\n| 11 | Exhibit 1        | Corporate representative                          | 9        |\n| 12 |                  | notice for the deposition                         |          |\n| 13 |                  | of Genever New York                               |          |\n| 14 | Exhibit 2        | Notice for the deposition                         | 9        |\n| 15 |                  | of Genever BVI                                    |          |\n| 16 | Exhibit 3        | Collection of corporate                           | 20       |\n| 17 |                  | documents, Bates Stamped                          |          |\n| 18 |                  | KWOK143 through 194                               |          |\n| 19 | Exhibit 4        | Certificate of                                    | 55       |\n| 20 |                  | Registration of Charge                            |          |\n| 21 | Exhibit 5        | Notice of Satisfaction or                         | 56       |\n| 22 |                  | Release of Registered                             |          |\n| 23 |                  | Charge Pursuant to                                |          |\n| 24 |                  | Section 165                                       |          |\n| 25 |                  |                                                   |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 7 of 140\n\n| 1  |            | ------------ E X H I B I T S (Cont'd) ----------- |\n|----|------------|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | PODHASKIE  | DESCRIPTION<br>FOR I.D.                           |\n| 3  | Exhibit 6  | Defendant's Memorandum of<br>58                   |\n| 4  |            | Law in Opposition to                              |\n| 5  |            | Plaintiff's Motion for an                         |\n| 6  |            | Order of Pre-Judgment                             |\n| 7  |            | Attachment                                        |\n| 8  | Exhibit 7  | Certificate of<br>65                              |\n| 9  |            | Registration of Charge                            |\n| 10 | Exhibit 8  | Notice of Satisfaction or<br>69                   |\n| 11 |            | Release of Registered                             |\n| 12 |            | Charge                                            |\n| 13 | Exhibit 9  | Declaration of Trust and<br>103                   |\n| 14 |            | Agreement                                         |\n| 15 | Exhibit 10 | Letter from Stevenson<br>112                      |\n| 16 |            | Wong dated March 4, 2015                          |\n| 17 |            |                                                   |\n| 18 |            |                                                   |\n| 19 |            | (EXHIBITS TO BE PRODUCED)                         |\n| 20 |            |                                                   |\n| 21 |            |                                                   |\n| 22 |            |                                                   |\n| 23 |            |                                                   |\n| 24 |            |                                                   |\n| 25 |            |                                                   |\n|    |            |                                                   |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 8 of 140\n\n| 1  | STIPULATIONS                                 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  |                                              |\n| 3  | IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND                  |\n| 4  | AGREED by and between the attorneys for the  |\n| 5  | respective parties herein that the sealing,  |\n| 6  | and filing be, and the same are hereby       |\n| 7  | waived.                                      |\n| 8  | IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND                 |\n| 9  | AGREED that all objections, except as to the |\n| 10 | form of the question, shall be reserved to   |\n| 11 | the time of the trial.                       |\n| 12 | IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND                 |\n| 13 | AGREED that the within deposition may be     |\n| 14 | sworn to and signed before any officer       |\n| 15 | authorized to administer an oath, with the   |\n| 16 | same force and effect as if signed to before |\n| 17 | the court.                                   |\n| 18 |                                              |\n| 19 | - oOo -                                      |\n| 20 |                                              |\n| 21 |                                              |\n| 22 |                                              |\n| 23 |                                              |\n| 24 |                                              |\n| 25 |                                              |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 9 of 140\n\n| 1  | P R O C E E D I N G S                        |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  |                                              |\n| 3  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>This is the             |\n| 4  | videotaped deposition of Mr. Daniel T.       |\n| 5  | Podhaskie, taken by the plaintiff in the     |\n| 6  | matter of Pacific Alliance Asia              |\n| 7  | Opportunity Fund L.P. versus Wan, et al.,    |\n| 8  | in the Supreme Court of the State of New     |\n| 9  | York in the County of New York.<br>The Index |\n| 10 | Number is 652077/2017.                       |\n| 11 | This deposition is being held at the         |\n| 12 | offices of Hodgson Russ, and today's date    |\n| 13 | is December 11, 2019.                        |\n| 14 | My name is Dan Macom.<br>I'm from            |\n| 15 | Ellen Grauer, a U.S. Legal Support           |\n| 16 | Company.                                     |\n| 17 | Our court reporter today is                  |\n| 18 | Ms. Melissa Gilmore, also from Ellen         |\n| 19 | Grauer, a U.S. Legal Support Company.        |\n| 20 | All counsel here today, their                |\n| 21 | appearances will appear on the written       |\n| 22 | record.                                      |\n| 23 | I will ask at this time that our             |\n| 24 | court reporter please swear in the           |\n| 25 | witness.                                     |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 10 of 140\n\n**8**\n\n **1 D A N I E L P O D H A S K I E, called as 2 a witness, having been sworn by a Notary 3 Public, was examined and testified as 4 follows: 5 6 EXAMINATION BY 7 MR. MOSS: 8 Q. Mr. Podhaskie, you are here as a 9 corporate representative for two entities; is 10 that correct? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. And one of those entities is Genever 13 Holdings, LLC, right? 14 A. Correct. 15 Q. And I'm going to refer to that 16 entity today as Genever New York. Is that 17 okay? 18 A. That's fine. 19 Q. Will you understand what I mean when 20 I say Genever New York that I'm referring to 21 Genever Holdings, LLC? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. And the other entity you are here on 24 behalf of is Genever Holdings Corporation BVI; 25 is that correct?**\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 11 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 3  | Q.<br>And I'm going to refer to that            |\n| 4  | entity as Genever BVI.<br>Is that okay?         |\n| 5  | A.<br>That's fine.                              |\n| 6  | Q.<br>And you'll understand that when I'm       |\n| 7  | talking about Genever BVI, I mean Genever       |\n| 8  | Holdings Corporation?                           |\n| 9  | A.<br>I do.                                     |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Thank you.                                |\n| 11 | I assume there is no reason why you             |\n| 12 | can't give truthful and accurate testimony here |\n| 13 | today?                                          |\n| 14 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 15 | (Podhaskie Exhibit 1, Corporate                 |\n| 16 | representative notice for the deposition        |\n| 17 | of Genever New York, marked for                 |\n| 18 | identification.)                                |\n| 19 | (Podhaskie Exhibit 2, Notice for the            |\n| 20 | deposition of Genever BVI, marked for           |\n| 21 | identification.)                                |\n| 22 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are on the              |\n| 23 | record.<br>The time is 2:59 p.m.                |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Mr. Podhaskie, I have handed you          |\n| 25 | what we have marked as Podhaskie 1 and          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 12 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                        |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Podhaskie 2.<br>Number 1 is the corporate        |\n| 3  | representative notice for the deposition of      |\n| 4  | Genever New York, and Exhibit 2 is the notice    |\n| 5  | for the deposition of Genever BVI.<br>Is that -- |\n| 6  | is that correct?                                 |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of           |\n| 8  | the question.                                    |\n| 9  | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Exhibit 1 is a       |\n| 10 | deposition notice to Genever New York and        |\n| 11 | Exhibit 2 is a deposition notice to Genever      |\n| 12 | BVI, as you previously defined them.             |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Great.<br>Thank you.                       |\n| 14 | Now, if you can take a look, please,             |\n| 15 | we can start with Exhibit 1.<br>Please take a    |\n| 16 | look at the last page of that exhibit.           |\n| 17 | And do you see that there are five               |\n| 18 | deposition topics?                               |\n| 19 | A.<br>Yes.                                       |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Are you prepared to testify on those       |\n| 21 | five topics today?                               |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes.                                       |\n| 23 | Q.<br>And if you can please take a look at       |\n| 24 | Exhibit 2, at the last page of that exhibit, do  |\n| 25 | you see that there are five deposition topics    |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 13 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                        |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | on that page?                                    |\n| 3  | A.<br>Yes.                                       |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Are you prepared to testify on those       |\n| 5  | five deposition topics today?                    |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                       |\n| 7  | Q.<br>What did you do to prepare to              |\n| 8  | testify on behalf of Genever New York and        |\n| 9  | Genever BVI on these topics that we just         |\n| 10 | covered?                                         |\n| 11 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of           |\n| 12 | the question.                                    |\n| 13 | You can answer.                                  |\n| 14 | A.<br>I reviewed each one of these               |\n| 15 | deposition notices and the topics that were      |\n| 16 | designated.<br>I reviewed the corporate records  |\n| 17 | for Genever New York and for Genever BVI.<br>I   |\n| 18 | spoke with Miles Kwok.<br>I spoke with Guo Qiang |\n| 19 | and I spoke with Yvette Wang.                    |\n| 20 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Maybe, just to go on            |\n| 21 | the record here, just because                    |\n| 22 | Mr. Podhaskie is an attorney, I'm                |\n| 23 | certainly going to allow you to ask              |\n| 24 | questions regarding the 30(b)(6)                 |\n| 25 | discussions he had with those individuals,       |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 14 of 140\n\n**12**\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 but anything outside of that, I'm going to 3 assert privilege. 4 MR. MOSS: Sure. Understood. 5 That's helpful. 6 BY MR. MOSS: 7 Q. So let's start with Mr. Kwok. What 8 did you discuss with Mr. Kwok in connection 9 with preparing for your testimony here today as 10 a corporate representative? 11 A. I asked him if he would have any 12 knowledge about the topics that are listed on 13 the notice of deposition. 14 Q. And what did he say? 15 A. He indicated he would not know. 16 Q. Anything else about your 17 conversation with Mr. Kwok as it relates to 18 your preparation for your corporate 19 representative topics today? 20 A. Did I discuss anything else with him 21 about this, the preparation? Other than that, 22 no. 23 Q. Who is Guo Qiang? 24 A. He is Mr. Kwok's son. 25 Q. And did you speak with Mr. Qiang by**\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 15 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | phone, in person?<br>How did you communicate?   |\n| 3  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Just for                       |\n| 4  | clarification, his first name is Qiang.         |\n| 5  | MR. MOSS:<br>Sorry.                             |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Mr. Guo.<br>Let me try it again.          |\n| 7  | When you speak with Mr. Kwok's son,             |\n| 8  | how did you communicate with him?               |\n| 9  | A.<br>By telephone.                             |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Who called who?                           |\n| 11 | A.<br>I was with Yvette Wang at the time        |\n| 12 | and she called Guo Qiang.                       |\n| 13 | Q.<br>And where was Guo Qiang located when      |\n| 14 | you spoke with him?                             |\n| 15 | A.<br>I believe he was in England.              |\n| 16 | Q.<br>And what did the two of you discuss?      |\n| 17 | A.<br>We discussed the deposition topics        |\n| 18 | that were noticed and the corporate formalities |\n| 19 | of both Genever New York and Genever BVI.       |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Do you remember anything he told          |\n| 21 | you?                                            |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Can you just tell me your best            |\n| 24 | recollection about what Guo Qiang told you      |\n| 25 | during that conversation to prepare for your    |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 16 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | corporate representative testimony?               |\n| 3  | A.<br>How much time do I have?                    |\n| 4  | Q.<br>As much as you need.                        |\n| 5  | A.<br>Well, we went through each of the           |\n| 6  | topics one by one.<br>We discussed the formation  |\n| 7  | and business purpose of both Genever BVI and      |\n| 8  | Genever New York.<br>We discussed the corporate   |\n| 9  | and ownership structure of both Genever BVI and   |\n| 10 | Genever New York.<br>We discussed the personnel   |\n| 11 | management and organization structure of both     |\n| 12 | Genever BVI and Genever New York.<br>We discussed |\n| 13 | Genever BVI's relationship to Mr. Kwok and        |\n| 14 | Genever New York.<br>And we discussed the assets  |\n| 15 | that are currently held by both Genever BVI and   |\n| 16 | Genever New York.                                 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Anything else you remember?                 |\n| 18 | A.<br>I think we briefly discussed the            |\n| 19 | purchase of the residence at The                  |\n| 20 | Sherry-Netherland Hotel in New York.              |\n| 21 | Q.<br>And do you recall anything about            |\n| 22 | that discussion?                                  |\n| 23 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Can you tell me what you remember?          |\n| 25 | A.<br>Anything specific that you're               |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 17 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | looking for?                                    |\n| 3  | Q.<br>You said it was a brief discussion.       |\n| 4  | Just anything you remember about that brief     |\n| 5  | discussion.                                     |\n| 6  | A.<br>He told me that they were looking to      |\n| 7  | buy a residence at -- you know, somewhere in    |\n| 8  | New York, and that he had attended the meetings |\n| 9  | with The Sherry-Netherland with his father, you |\n| 10 | know, he attended a lot of the meetings, spoke  |\n| 11 | with the president of the -- or the vice        |\n| 12 | president, I'm not sure of the title, of The    |\n| 13 | Sherry-Netherland.                              |\n| 14 | He had signed some application forms            |\n| 15 | to purchase the residence on behalf of Genever  |\n| 16 | New York and I think that's about it.           |\n| 17 | Q.<br>When you say they were looking to         |\n| 18 | buy residences, who is the \"they\" you're        |\n| 19 | referring to?                                   |\n| 20 | A.<br>The Guo family.                           |\n| 21 | Q.<br>And is that Mr. Kwok and his son or       |\n| 22 | is that something broader than that?            |\n| 23 | A.<br>In particular, it was Guo Qiang,          |\n| 24 | Mr. Kwok's son.                                 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>When was the conversation you had         |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 18 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | with Guo Qiang?                                 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I believe this past Monday,               |\n| 4  | December 9.                                     |\n| 5  | Q.<br>You said you also spoke with              |\n| 6  | Ms. Yvette Wang to prepare for your testimony;  |\n| 7  | is that correct?                                |\n| 8  | A.<br>She was present when I had the            |\n| 9  | conversation with Guo Qiang.                    |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Did you have any conversations with       |\n| 11 | her other than her being present for the        |\n| 12 | conversation with Guo Qiang?                    |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 14 | Q.<br>In connection with preparation for        |\n| 15 | this deposition?                                |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 17 | Q.<br>And can you tell me what the two of       |\n| 18 | you discussed, please?                          |\n| 19 | A.<br>I think we discussed the address for      |\n| 20 | Genever and who maintains -- whether it has an  |\n| 21 | office here in New York, Genever New York, that |\n| 22 | is, and the same for Genever BVI.               |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Anything else?                            |\n| 24 | A.<br>No.<br>I think that's it.                 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>What is Ms. Wang's role with Genever      |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 19 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |                                        |  |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | New York?                                       |                                        |  |\n| 3  | A.                                              | I don't know.                          |  |\n| 4  | Q.                                              | What is Ms. Wang's role with Genever   |  |\n| 5  | BVI?                                            |                                        |  |\n| 6  | A.                                              | I don't know.                          |  |\n| 7  | Q.                                              | Well, you're prepared to testify       |  |\n| 8  | about the personnel of Genever New York, right, |                                        |  |\n| 9  | that's topic 3, in Exhibit 1; is that right?    |                                        |  |\n| 10 | A.                                              | Yes.                                   |  |\n| 11 | Q.                                              | Are you prepared to testify on that?   |  |\n| 12 | A.                                              | I am.                                  |  |\n| 13 | Q.                                              | You didn't ask Ms. Wang what her       |  |\n| 14 | role was with Genever New York?                 |                                        |  |\n| 15 | A.                                              | I think you're assuming she has a      |  |\n| 16 |                                                 | role with Genever New York.            |  |\n| 17 | Q.                                              | Did you ask her whether she has a      |  |\n| 18 |                                                 | role with Genever New York?            |  |\n| 19 | A.                                              | Yes.                                   |  |\n| 20 | Q.                                              | And what did she tell you?             |  |\n| 21 | A.                                              | She has no official role with          |  |\n| 22 | Genever New York.                               |                                        |  |\n| 23 | Q.                                              | Does she have an unofficial role       |  |\n| 24 | with Genever New York?                          |                                        |  |\n| 25 |                                                 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 20 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |  |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | the question.                                  |  |\n| 3  | You can answer.                                |  |\n| 4  | A.<br>What do you mean by \"unofficial          |  |\n| 5  | role\"?                                         |  |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Well, you testified that you didn't      |  |\n| 7  | know whether she had a role with Genever New   |  |\n| 8  | York.<br>Is that -- is that your testimony?    |  |\n| 9  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |  |\n| 10 | the question.                                  |  |\n| 11 | A.<br>If that's what the record reflects.      |  |\n| 12 | Q.<br>I asked you, what is Ms. Wang's role     |  |\n| 13 | with Genever New York, and you answered, I     |  |\n| 14 | don't know.                                    |  |\n| 15 | Do you recall that testimony?                  |  |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                     |  |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Is that accurate?                        |  |\n| 18 | A.<br>Yes.                                     |  |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you know whether she has     |  |\n| 20 | any role, official or unofficial, with Genever |  |\n| 21 | New York?<br>And by \"her,\" I'm referring to    |  |\n| 22 | Yvette Wang.                                   |  |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't know.                            |  |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Did you ask her whether she had a        |  |\n| 25 | role with Genever New York?                    |  |\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |  |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | A.<br>What do you mean by \"role\"?<br>Can you    |  |\n| 3  | be more specific?                               |  |\n| 4  | Q.<br>I asked you what Ms. Wang told you        |  |\n| 5  | and you answered she has no official role with  |  |\n| 6  | Genever New York.                               |  |\n| 7  | What did you mean by the word                   |  |\n| 8  | \"role\"?                                         |  |\n| 9  | A.<br>She is not employed by Genever New        |  |\n| 10 | York.                                           |  |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Does she have any duties,                 |  |\n| 12 | responsibility in connection with, affiliation  |  |\n| 13 | with Genever New York?                          |  |\n| 14 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |  |\n| 15 | the question.                                   |  |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |  |\n| 17 | Q.<br>You didn't ask her?                       |  |\n| 18 | A.<br>No.                                       |  |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Let's -- let's focus on Genever BVI.      |  |\n| 20 | Mr. Podhaskie, I'm going to hand you            |  |\n| 21 | a collection of corporate documents that were   |  |\n| 22 | produced to us in this case by -- by one of the |  |\n| 23 | Genever entities, I'm not sure which one, but   |  |\n| 24 | they have Kwok Bates stamps on them, and I'm    |  |\n| 25 | going to look at -- I'm going to direct your    |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 22 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |  |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | attention to various documents within here.<br>If |  |\n| 3  | there are other documents you feel you need to    |  |\n| 4  | look at to answer questions or you want to flip   |  |\n| 5  | through this, you're more than welcome to.        |  |\n| 6  | (Podhaskie Exhibit 3, Collection of               |  |\n| 7  | corporate documents, Bates Stamped KWOK143        |  |\n| 8  | through 194, marked for identification.)          |  |\n| 9  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Are you marking this             |  |\n| 10 | as Podhaskie 3?                                   |  |\n| 11 | MR. MOSS:<br>I'm marking this together            |  |\n| 12 | as 3, yes.                                        |  |\n| 13 | Q.<br>So Mr. Podhaskie, Exhibit 3, as I           |  |\n| 14 | mentioned, is a compilation of documents.<br>They |  |\n| 15 | are in sequential Bates order, and they are       |  |\n| 16 | KWOK143 through KWOK194.<br>And they are various  |  |\n| 17 | corporate documents with respect to the two       |  |\n| 18 | Genever entities.                                 |  |\n| 19 | So I would like to direct your                    |  |\n| 20 | attention to page -- the Bates page 176.<br>This  |  |\n| 21 | is entitled \"Authorization to Date Director's     |  |\n| 22 | Resolution,\" and it's Bates stamped KWOK176.      |  |\n| 23 | Can you identify this document?                   |  |\n| 24 | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>It is entitled        |  |\n| 25 | \"Authorization to Date Director's Resolution,\"    |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 23 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                     |  |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | and it appears to be dated effective the 12th |  |\n| 3  | day of February, 2015.                        |  |\n| 4  | Q.<br>And it relates to the Genever BVI       |  |\n| 5  | entity?                                       |  |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                    |  |\n| 7  | Q.<br>And is this a true and correct copy     |  |\n| 8  | of this Authorization to Date Director's      |  |\n| 9  | Resolution, as far as you can tell?           |  |\n| 10 | A.<br>Based on the documents that I           |  |\n| 11 | reviewed in preparation for today, it would   |  |\n| 12 | appear to be true and accurate.               |  |\n| 13 | Q.<br>And is that -- that signature at the    |  |\n| 14 | bottom, is that Mr. Kwok's signature?         |  |\n| 15 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of        |  |\n| 16 | the question.                                 |  |\n| 17 | A.<br>I don't know.                           |  |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Kwok Ho Wan, do you see underneath      |  |\n| 19 | the signature line, it has the words          |  |\n| 20 | typewritten \"Kwok Ho Wan\"?                    |  |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes.                                    |  |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Is that Miles Kwok?                     |  |\n| 23 | A.<br>Yes.                                    |  |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Do you have any reason to believe       |  |\n| 25 | that's not his signature?                     |  |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 24 of 140\n\n| 1  |                                                | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>No.                                      |                                                 |\n| 3  | Q.                                             | And it says here, \"The undersigned              |\n| 4  |                                                | is forming a corporation under the laws of the  |\n| 5  | British Virgin Islands, such corporation to be |                                                 |\n| 6  | known as Genever Holdings Corporation, the     |                                                 |\n| 7  | company.\"                                      |                                                 |\n| 8  |                                                | Did I read that correctly?                      |\n| 9  | A.                                             | You're reading from the beginning of            |\n| 10 | the first paragraph?                           |                                                 |\n| 11 | Q.                                             | Yes, the first sentence.                        |\n| 12 | A.                                             | (Document review.)<br>Yes.                      |\n| 13 | Q.                                             | And the undersigned is Mr. Kwok; is             |\n| 14 | that right?                                    |                                                 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Correct.                                 | Correct.                                        |\n| 16 | Q.                                             | Mr. Kwok formed Genever Holdings                |\n| 17 | Corporation, correct?                          |                                                 |\n| 18 | A.                                             | That's what this document reflects.             |\n| 19 | Q.                                             | And you don't have any reason to                |\n| 20 |                                                | believe this document that was produced from    |\n| 21 |                                                | Mr. Kwok's or Genever's files is inaccurate, do |\n| 22 | you?                                           |                                                 |\n| 23 | A.<br>No.                                      |                                                 |\n| 24 | Q.                                             | Take a look, please, Mr. Podhaskie,             |\n| 25 | at page KWOK145.                               |                                                 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 25 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Can you identify this document which            |\n| 3  | is -- the title of it is \"Territory of the      |\n| 4  | British Virgin Island Acts, BVI Companies Act   |\n| 5  | 2004, Certificate of Incorporation, Section 7   |\n| 6  | for Genever Holdings Corporation.\"              |\n| 7  | Can you identify this?                          |\n| 8  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 9  | the question.                                   |\n| 10 | A.<br>Yes.<br>This appears to be a copy of      |\n| 11 | the certificate of incorporation for Genever    |\n| 12 | BVI.                                            |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Do you have any reason to believe         |\n| 14 | that this document is not authentic and         |\n| 15 | accurate?                                       |\n| 16 | A.<br>Based on the documents that I             |\n| 17 | reviewed in preparation for today, this appears |\n| 18 | to be an accurate copy.                         |\n| 19 | Q.<br>And is it correct that Genever BVI        |\n| 20 | was incorporated in the BVI on February 13,     |\n| 21 | 2015?                                           |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes, I believe that's correct.            |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Who besides Mr. Kwok was involved in      |\n| 24 | forming Genever BVI?                            |\n| 25 | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                                |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 26 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                     |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>That's Mr. Kwok's son?                  |\n| 3  | A.<br>Correct.                                |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Anybody else?                           |\n| 5  | A.<br>Not that I'm aware of.                  |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Why was Genever BVI formed?             |\n| 7  | A.<br>Initially, it was formed to own a       |\n| 8  | US-based company that was going to purchase   |\n| 9  | real estate.                                  |\n| 10 | Q.<br>And was the US-based company Genever    |\n| 11 | New York?                                     |\n| 12 | A.<br>Yes.                                    |\n| 13 | Q.<br>And was the real estate the             |\n| 14 | apartment at The Sherry-Netherland Hotel?     |\n| 15 | A.<br>That ultimately ended up being the      |\n| 16 | real estate that Genever purchased.           |\n| 17 | Q.<br>So is it your testimony that, at the    |\n| 18 | time, there was the thought to buy some real  |\n| 19 | estate in the United States, but they just    |\n| 20 | didn't know exactly what that real estate was |\n| 21 | going to be?                                  |\n| 22 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of        |\n| 23 | the question.                                 |\n| 24 | You can answer.                               |\n| 25 | A.<br>They wanted to invest in real estate    |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 27 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                    |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | in the United States, and they didn't know   |\n| 3  | which asset they were going to purchase or   |\n| 4  | where they were going to purchase.           |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Was the plan at the time of            |\n| 6  | formation to buy one -- you said which asset |\n| 7  | they were going to purchase.                 |\n| 8  | Was the plan at the time of                  |\n| 9  | formation to purchase one asset or several   |\n| 10 | assets?                                      |\n| 11 | A.<br>I don't know what the plan was.<br>I   |\n| 12 | know they had looked at several different    |\n| 13 | properties and ultimately chose The          |\n| 14 | Sherry-Netherland.                           |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Has the purpose of Genever BVI         |\n| 16 | changed since the purpose at its formation?  |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of       |\n| 18 | the question.                                |\n| 19 | You can answer.                              |\n| 20 | A.<br>No.                                    |\n| 21 | Q.<br>No purposes have been added or         |\n| 22 | subtracted?                                  |\n| 23 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of       |\n| 24 | the question.                                |\n| 25 | A.<br>It's not reflected from the            |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 28 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                    |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | documents and the conversations I had in     |\n| 3  | preparation for today.                       |\n| 4  | Q.<br>What business has Genever BVI          |\n| 5  | conducted?                                   |\n| 6  | A.<br>It owns Genever New York, which owns   |\n| 7  | the residence at The Sherry-Netherland.      |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Any other business that Genever BVI    |\n| 9  | has conducted other than owning Genever New  |\n| 10 | York?                                        |\n| 11 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of       |\n| 12 | the question.                                |\n| 13 | A.<br>No.                                    |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever entered into      |\n| 15 | any contracts?                               |\n| 16 | A.<br>By contract, can you specify more?     |\n| 17 | I think the answer is yes.                   |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Can you elaborate?            |\n| 19 | A.<br>It entered into -- sorry -- Genever    |\n| 20 | BVI entered into a pledge agreement with an  |\n| 21 | entity called Roscalitar 2, and also with an |\n| 22 | entity called Blue Capital Limited.          |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Other than those two pledge            |\n| 24 | agreements, has Genever BVI entered into any |\n| 25 | contracts?                                   |\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Not from the documents and the            |\n| 3  | conversations I had in preparation for today.   |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Does Genever BVI have a bank              |\n| 5  | account?                                        |\n| 6  | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever paid any money       |\n| 8  | to any other person or entity?                  |\n| 9  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 10 | the question.                                   |\n| 11 | A.<br>When you say \"any other person or         |\n| 12 | entity,\" who are you referring to?              |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Any person or entity other than           |\n| 14 | Genever BVI.                                    |\n| 15 | A.<br>Has Genever BVI paid any money to         |\n| 16 | any other person or entity other than Genever   |\n| 17 | BVI?                                            |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Yeah, to anyone.<br>Has it ever           |\n| 19 | incurred a debt that it needed to pay money     |\n| 20 | for?<br>Has it ever cut a check?<br>Has it ever |\n| 21 | spent any money on any goods or services?       |\n| 22 | A.<br>It hired a registered agent in the        |\n| 23 | BVI and paid them for secretarial services.     |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Other than that?                          |\n| 25 | A.<br>No, not from -- I did not see that        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 30 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | from the documents and the conversations I had    |\n| 3  | in preparation for today.                         |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Do you know where the money came            |\n| 5  | from to pay the registered agent for the          |\n| 6  | secretarial services?                             |\n| 7  | A.<br>I believe it came from Bravo Luck.          |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever received any           |\n| 9  | money from any person or entity?                  |\n| 10 | A.<br>No, that's not apparent from the            |\n| 11 | documents that I've reviewed in preparation for   |\n| 12 | today.                                            |\n| 13 | Q.<br>At the time of Genever BVI's                |\n| 14 | formation, was Mr. Kwok its sole shareholder?     |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.<br>And by Mr. Kwok, you're             |\n| 16 | referring to Miles Kwok?                          |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 18 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 19 | Q.<br>So for purposes of clarity of the           |\n| 20 | record, thank you for mentioning that, when I     |\n| 21 | refer to Mr. Kwok, I'm going to be referring to   |\n| 22 | Miles Kwok.<br>When I'm referring to Guo Qiang, I |\n| 23 | will be referring to Mr. Kwok's son.              |\n| 24 | Is that okay?                                     |\n| 25 | A.<br>That's fine.                                |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 31 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>And that's the way you have been          |\n| 3  | using those terms during the course of this     |\n| 4  | deposition, right?                              |\n| 5  | A.<br>Yeah.<br>That's fine.                     |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Can you direct your attention to the      |\n| 7  | next page, please, Mr. Podhaskie, which is      |\n| 8  | Bates stamped KWOK147.<br>The top, it says,     |\n| 9  | \"Incorporated under the BVI Business Companies  |\n| 10 | Act 2004,\" and then it says, \"Genever Holdings  |\n| 11 | Corporation,\" in the middle.                    |\n| 12 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Can you please identify this              |\n| 14 | document?                                       |\n| 15 | A.<br>This appears to be a copy of the          |\n| 16 | share certificate for Genever BVI.              |\n| 17 | Q.<br>And as far as you know, this is a         |\n| 18 | true, correct, authentic and accurate document? |\n| 19 | A.<br>Again, based on the documents I           |\n| 20 | reviewed in preparation for today, it would     |\n| 21 | appear to be an accurate copy.                  |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And this provides that Mr. Kwok is        |\n| 23 | the owner of 1,000 shares, and those shares     |\n| 24 | have a par value of .001 cents; is that         |\n| 25 | correct?                                        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 32 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I think it's .001 dollar, but yes.        |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Yes.<br>Thank you.<br>001 dollar?         |\n| 4  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Thank you.                                |\n| 6  | And so the total value of Mr. Kwok's            |\n| 7  | share holding in Genever Corporation -- Genever |\n| 8  | BVI would be one dollar; is that right?         |\n| 9  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 10 | the question.                                   |\n| 11 | A.<br>If the math adds up, then yes.            |\n| 12 | That's what it appears to say here.             |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Did Mr. Kwok pay a dollar for his         |\n| 14 | shares?                                         |\n| 15 | A.<br>From the documents I reviewed,            |\n| 16 | that's not reflected.                           |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Do you know whether or not he paid        |\n| 18 | any amount of money for his shares, Mr. Kwok?   |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Has Mr. Kwok been the sole                |\n| 21 | shareholder of Genever BVI for the entirety of  |\n| 22 | Genever BVI's existence?                        |\n| 23 | A.<br>From the documents that I reviewed        |\n| 24 | in preparation for today, yes.                  |\n| 25 | Q.<br>So Mr. Kwok is the sole owner of          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 33 of 140\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 Genever BVI? 3 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 4 the question. 5 A. He is the sole shareholder of 6 Genever BVI. 7 Q. And are you distinguishing between 8 shareholders and owners because it's a 9 corporation? Is that why? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. But there is nobody else who owns 12 Genever BVI; is that correct? 13 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 14 the question. 15 A. Other than Mr. Kwok? 16 Q. Yes. 17 A. Based on the documents I reviewed 18 today, there's no other shareholder besides 19 Mr. Kwok. 20 Q. Who is Zhang Wei? 21 A. He is a colleague of Mr. Kwok's that 22 lives in China that ultimately lent the money 23 to purchase The Sherry-Netherland. 24 Q. Is he a family member of Mr. Kwok? 25 A. I would be speculating, so I don't**\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 34 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | know.                                          |\n| 3  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>I caution the witness         |\n|    |                                                |\n| 4  | not to speculate.                              |\n| 5  | Q.<br>When you say Zhang Wei ultimately        |\n| 6  | lent the money to purchase The                 |\n| 7  | Sherry-Netherland, to whom did Zhang Wei lend  |\n| 8  | the money?                                     |\n| 9  | A.<br>He lent the money to Bravo Luck, a       |\n| 10 | company that, at that time, was owned by       |\n| 11 | Mr. Kwok's son, Guo Qiang, and then Guo Qiang  |\n| 12 | ended up funding the purchase of The           |\n| 13 | Sherry-Netherland through Bravo Luck.          |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Zhang Wei have any -- own       |\n| 15 | any of the shares of Genever BVI?              |\n| 16 | A.<br>Based on the documents that I            |\n| 17 | reviewed in preparation for today, his         |\n| 18 | ownership is not reflected on those documents. |\n| 19 | Q.<br>At any time during Genever BVI's         |\n| 20 | existence, did Mr. Zhang Wei own any shares of |\n| 21 | Genever BVI?                                   |\n| 22 | A.<br>From the documents that I reviewed       |\n| 23 | in preparation for today, that is not          |\n| 24 | reflected.                                     |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Mr. Kwok was the sole director of        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 35 of 140\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 Genever BVI at the time it was formed; is that 3 correct? 4 A. Yes. Again, based on what I 5 reviewed for today. 6 Q. Has Genever BVI, during the course 7 of its existence, ever had any directors other 8 than Mr. Kwok? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. Who were those other directors? 11 A. There was a corporate secretary, a 12 registered agent in the BVI that acted as a 13 director as well. 14 Q. Is that Elian First Director? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. And was that director -- was Elian 17 First Director only a director for a day or so, 18 until it was replaced by Mr. Kwok? 19 A. I don't know how long it was, but it 20 was a short period of time initially, yes. 21 Q. A day or a couple of days? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. Other than Elian First Director, 24 which was a director of Genever BVI for a day 25 or a couple of days, has there been any other**\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 36 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | director of Genever BVI besides Mr. Kwok?       |\n| 3  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 4  | the question.                                   |\n| 5  | You can answer.                                 |\n| 6  | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Has Mr. Kwok ever stopped being a         |\n| 8  | director of Genever BVI?                        |\n| 9  | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 10 | Q.<br>He's still a director to this day?        |\n| 11 | A.<br>He is currently still a director.         |\n| 12 | Q.<br>He is currently still the only            |\n| 13 | director?                                       |\n| 14 | A.<br>He is the only director.<br>Guo Qiang     |\n| 15 | is the president.                               |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever had any              |\n| 17 | offices?                                        |\n| 18 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 19 | the question.                                   |\n| 20 | A.<br>When you say \"offices,\" do you mean       |\n| 21 | like business office, corporate office,         |\n| 22 | something like that?                            |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 24 | A.<br>It has a mailing address in the           |\n| 25 | British Virgin Islands, but it does not have an |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 37 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | office that is what we typically think of as an |\n| 3  | office like this.                               |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Genever BVI has never had a business      |\n| 5  | or a corporate office?                          |\n| 6  | A.<br>Correct.                                  |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Is the mailing address that Genever       |\n| 8  | BVI has the mailing address for its registered  |\n| 9  | agent for service of process?                   |\n| 10 | A.<br>In the BVI?                               |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 12 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Does it have any other -- does            |\n| 14 | Genever hold -- strike that.                    |\n| 15 | Does Genever BVI have any other                 |\n| 16 | mailing address other than the mailing address  |\n| 17 | for its registered agent for service of process |\n| 18 | in the BVI?                                     |\n| 19 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 20 | Q.<br>What other addresses does it have?        |\n| 21 | A.<br>There is another address in Hong          |\n| 22 | Kong where it maintains its books and records.  |\n| 23 | Q.<br>And what is that address?                 |\n| 24 | A.<br>I don't know it off the top of my         |\n| 25 | head.<br>If I had the records in front of me, I |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 38 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | would be able to find it.                       |\n| 3  | Q.<br>And what is that address?<br>Is it the    |\n| 4  | office of another company?                      |\n| 5  | A.<br>It's -- from what I understand, it's      |\n| 6  | just another mailing address or another -- just |\n| 7  | an office where they keep the books and         |\n| 8  | records.                                        |\n| 9  | Q.<br>And who's in charge of maintaining        |\n| 10 | the books and records?                          |\n| 11 | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                                |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Any other addresses besides the           |\n| 13 | registered agent for service of process in the  |\n| 14 | BVI and the mailing address where the books and |\n| 15 | records are kept in Hong Kong?                  |\n| 16 | A.<br>No, not that I'm aware of.                |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever had any              |\n| 18 | employees?                                      |\n| 19 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Does Genever BVI have a phone             |\n| 21 | number?                                         |\n| 22 | A.<br>I think there is a phone number for       |\n| 23 | the registered agent, but other than that, no.  |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Does Genever BVI have an e-mail           |\n| 25 | address?                                        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 39 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Does Genever BVI have any officers?       |\n| 4  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 5  | Q.<br>You mentioned Guo Qiang.                  |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 7  | Q.<br>What is his role at Genever BVI?          |\n| 8  | A.<br>He is the president.                      |\n| 9  | Q.<br>When did he become the president?         |\n| 10 | A.<br>May of 2015.                              |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Did Genever BVI have any officers         |\n| 12 | from the time it was formed in February of 2015 |\n| 13 | until Guo Qiang became the president in May of  |\n| 14 | 2015?                                           |\n| 15 | A.<br>If you consider a director an             |\n| 16 | officer, then yes.                              |\n| 17 | Q.<br>And that would have been Mr. Kwok?        |\n| 18 | A.<br>Correct.                                  |\n| 19 | Q.<br>And Elian for a day or two?               |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Other than directors and other            |\n| 22 | than -- strike that.                            |\n| 23 | Other than directors, between                   |\n| 24 | February of 2015, when it was formed, and May   |\n| 25 | of 2015, when Guo Qiang became president, did   |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 40 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Genever BVI have any officers?                  |\n| 3  | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Who appointed or elected Guo Qiang        |\n| 5  | as president in May of 2015?                    |\n| 6  | A.<br>Mr. Kwok.                                 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Has -- strike that.                       |\n| 8  | Has Genever BVI ever had any other              |\n| 9  | officers, I'm not talking about directors, just |\n| 10 | officers, other than Guo Qiang, the president?  |\n| 11 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Is Guo Qiang still the president?         |\n| 13 | A.<br>From the documents that I reviewed        |\n| 14 | in preparation for today, yes.                  |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Between May of 2015, when he was          |\n| 16 | appointed president by Mr. Kwok, and today, has |\n| 17 | Guo Qiang ever -- did he ever stop being        |\n| 18 | president for any period of time?               |\n| 19 | A.<br>Not that I'm aware of.                    |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Did Mr. Kwok ever have an officer         |\n| 21 | role at Genever BVI?                            |\n| 22 | A.<br>Not that I'm aware of.                    |\n| 23 | Q.<br>And you're not aware of any other         |\n| 24 | officers besides Guo Qiang?                     |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.<br>Correct.                          |\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                  |\n|----|--------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever had a board     |\n| 3  | meeting?                                   |\n| 4  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of     |\n| 5  | the question.                              |\n| 6  | A.<br>From the documents that I reviewed,  |\n| 7  | it's not reflected in there.               |\n| 8  | Q.<br>So based on everything you've seen,  |\n| 9  | the answer to that question is no?         |\n| 10 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of     |\n| 11 | the question.                              |\n| 12 | A.<br>If Genever BVI had a board meeting,  |\n| 13 | it was not reflected in the documents I    |\n| 14 | reviewed for today's preparation.          |\n| 15 | Q.<br>What documents does Genever BVI      |\n| 16 | maintain?                                  |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of     |\n| 18 | the question.                              |\n| 19 | A.<br>The corporate documents that were    |\n| 20 | generated when it was formed, the share    |\n| 21 | certificate, the register of directors and |\n| 22 | shareholders, and there was a resolution   |\n| 23 | appointing Guo Qiang as president as well. |\n| 24 | Q.<br>And you know that there's an address |\n| 25 | where those documents are maintained, but  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 42 of 140\n\n| 1  |                  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|------------------|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  |                  | you're not sure if it's an office or a room or  |\n| 3  | what it is?      |                                                 |\n| 4  | A.               | Yes.                                            |\n| 5  | Q.               | Do you know whether or not -- do you            |\n| 6  |                  | know who owns that address, the address in Hong |\n| 7  |                  | Kong where the records are maintained?          |\n| 8  | A.               | I believe it's a UBS office, but I'm            |\n| 9  | speculating.     |                                                 |\n| 10 |                  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Again, I caution the           |\n| 11 |                  | witness not to speculate.                       |\n| 12 | Q.               | UBS meaning the investment bank?                |\n| 13 | A.               | Yes.                                            |\n| 14 | Q.               | Are there any individuals who are               |\n| 15 |                  | authorized to act on behalf of Genever BVI?     |\n| 16 |                  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 17 |                  | the question.                                   |\n| 18 | A.               | Yes.                                            |\n| 19 | Q.               | Who?                                            |\n| 20 | A.               | Mr. Kwok and Guo Qiang.<br>Me, for              |\n| 21 | this deposition. | And whoever either one of                       |\n| 22 |                  | them appoints to act for the company.           |\n| 23 | Q.               | Has either Mr. Kwok or Guo Qiang                |\n| 24 |                  | ever appointed anyone to act for Genever BVI    |\n| 25 |                  | other than you in connection with this          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 43 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                   |\n|----|---------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | deposition?                                 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I don't know.                         |\n|    |                                             |\n| 4  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Just object to the         |\n| 5  | form of that question.                      |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Who specifically appointed you to     |\n| 7  | act for Genever BVI for this deposition?    |\n| 8  | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                            |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Are you authorized to act for         |\n| 10 | Genever BVI for any purpose other than this |\n| 11 | deposition currently?                       |\n| 12 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of      |\n| 13 | the question.                               |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't know.                         |\n| 15 | Q.<br>What actions has Mr. Kwok taken on    |\n| 16 | behalf of Genever BVI?                      |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of      |\n| 18 | the question.                               |\n| 19 | You can answer.                             |\n| 20 | A.<br>Other than signing the corporate      |\n| 21 | formation documents, I don't know.          |\n| 22 | Q.<br>What actions has Guo Qiang taken on   |\n| 23 | behalf of Genever BVI?                      |\n| 24 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of      |\n| 25 | the question.                               |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 44 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I don't really understand what you        |\n| 3  | mean by \"what actions.\"<br>Can you be more      |\n| 4  | specific?                                       |\n| 5  | Q.<br>To your knowledge, has Guo Qiang          |\n| 6  | ever done anything, ever attended a meeting,    |\n| 7  | spent money, engaged in any type of business    |\n| 8  | interaction at all ever on behalf of Genever    |\n| 9  | BVI?                                            |\n| 10 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 11 | the question.                                   |\n| 12 | A.<br>He was involved in the formation.         |\n| 13 | He was involved in the purchase of The Sherry,  |\n| 14 | in reviewing the different properties that they |\n| 15 | thought about purchasing.<br>He signed various  |\n| 16 | documents for Genever BVI.<br>He communicated   |\n| 17 | with the representatives of The                 |\n| 18 | Sherry-Netherland for the purchase.<br>He       |\n| 19 | communicated with the real estate brokers for   |\n| 20 | the purchase.                                   |\n| 21 | Q.<br>When you say he signed various            |\n| 22 | documents for Genever BVI, which documents are  |\n| 23 | you referring to?                               |\n| 24 | A.<br>He signed a request for an                |\n| 25 | employer -- an EIN, employer identification     |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 45 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | number.                                         |\n| 3  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Just so -- he's                |\n| 4  | asking you about Genever BVI.                   |\n| 5  | THE WITNESS:<br>Oh, okay.                       |\n| 6  | A.<br>Oh, that might have been for Genever      |\n| 7  | New York.                                       |\n| 8  | So for Genever BVI --                           |\n| 9  | MR. MOSS:<br>Thank you for the                  |\n| 10 | clarification.                                  |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Let's just go back.                       |\n| 12 | You had an answer earlier, he was               |\n| 13 | involved in the formation, he was involved in   |\n| 14 | the purchase of The Sherry, and you had -- if   |\n| 15 | you want to go back and take a look at that     |\n| 16 | answer, that's fine, but I just want to make    |\n| 17 | sure the record is clear.                       |\n| 18 | Was that answer relating to Genever             |\n| 19 | New York or Genever BVI?                        |\n| 20 | A.<br>(Reviewing.)<br>So I guess, just to be    |\n| 21 | clear, Guo Qiang was involved in the formation  |\n| 22 | of Genever BVI.<br>After he was appointed as    |\n| 23 | president, I recall seeing several documents    |\n| 24 | that he signed for Genever BVI in his capacity  |\n| 25 | as president.<br>I don't recall what those are, |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 46 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | as I sit here.                                    |\n| 3  | Other than that, I can't think of                 |\n| 4  | anything.                                         |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Genever BVI is the sole owner of            |\n| 6  | Genever New York; is that correct?                |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of            |\n| 8  | the question.                                     |\n| 9  | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Is Genever BVI also the sole member         |\n| 11 | of Genever New York?                              |\n| 12 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Is it correct that Genever New              |\n| 14 | York -- strike that.                              |\n| 15 | Is it correct that Genever BVI                    |\n| 16 | formed Genever New York?                          |\n| 17 | A.<br>Yes.<br>From the documents I reviewed,      |\n| 18 | I believe that's accurate.                        |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Can you direct your attention,              |\n| 20 | Mr. Podhaskie, to Exhibit 3, page KWOK193.        |\n| 21 | It's a document entitled \"Genever Holdings        |\n| 22 | Corporation Written Consent of Director.\"<br>It's |\n| 23 | Bates stamped KWOK193 to 194.                     |\n| 24 | Can you identify this document?                   |\n| 25 | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Yes.                  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 47 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Please do so.                            |\n| 3  | A.<br>From the documents that I reviewed       |\n| 4  | in preparation for today, this appears to be a |\n| 5  | copy of Genever BVI's written consent of sole  |\n| 6  | director, dated February 12, 2015.             |\n| 7  | Q.<br>And the signature block is Ho Wan        |\n| 8  | Kwok.                                          |\n| 9  | Is that Mr. Kwok?                              |\n| 10 | A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Do you have any reason to believe        |\n| 12 | that this is not an accurate and authentic     |\n| 13 | document?                                      |\n| 14 | A.<br>No.                                      |\n| 15 | Q.<br>This document mentions Andrea Sanft,     |\n| 16 | S-A-N-F-T.                                     |\n| 17 | Who is she?                                    |\n| 18 | A.<br>She is a lawyer either with the firm     |\n| 19 | of Paul Weiss or Williams & Connolly.          |\n| 20 | Q.<br>And she was authorized to be an          |\n| 21 | authorized person on behalf of Genever BVI     |\n| 22 | according to this written consent; is that     |\n| 23 | correct?                                       |\n| 24 | A.<br>Yes, that's correct.                     |\n| 25 | Q.<br>And she was authorized to be an          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 48 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | authorized person to form Genever New York and |\n| 3  | to take such other acts and do such other      |\n| 4  | things as are necessary to permit Genever New  |\n| 5  | York to exist and obtain authority to do       |\n| 6  | business in the state of New York and New York |\n| 7  | City; is that correct?                         |\n| 8  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 9  | the question.                                  |\n| 10 | You can answer.                                |\n| 11 | A.<br>Yes, based on this written consent       |\n| 12 | of the sole director, that's accurate.         |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Is Genever New York an asset of          |\n| 14 | Genever BVI?                                   |\n| 15 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 16 | the question.                                  |\n| 17 | A.<br>If you assume that a ownership of a      |\n| 18 | limited liability company is an asset, then    |\n| 19 | yes.                                           |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Is that your understanding, that a       |\n| 21 | ownership of a limited liability company is an |\n| 22 | asset?                                         |\n| 23 | A.<br>That is my personal understanding.       |\n| 24 | In my capacity as a representative             |\n| 25 | for Genever, I don't know.                     |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 49 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>You don't know whether or not            |\n| 3  | Genever BVI has an understanding as to whether |\n| 4  | or not Genever New York is one of its assets?  |\n| 5  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 6  | the question.                                  |\n| 7  | A.<br>So what is the question?                 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Is Genever New York an asset of          |\n| 9  | Genever BVI?                                   |\n| 10 | A.<br>Does Genever BVI consider Genever        |\n| 11 | New York an asset?                             |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Genever BVI considers Genever New        |\n| 15 | York to be one of Genever BVI's assets?        |\n| 16 | A.<br>Correct.                                 |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 18 | the question, asked and answered.              |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever held any assets     |\n| 20 | other than Genever New York?                   |\n| 21 | A.<br>From the documents that I reviewed       |\n| 22 | in preparation for today, no.                  |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever acquired an         |\n| 24 | asset other than Genever New York?             |\n| 25 | A.<br>Again, from what I reviewed in           |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 50 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | preparation for today, no.                      |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI ever sold an asset        |\n| 4  | other than Genever New York?                    |\n| 5  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 6  | the question.                                   |\n| 7  | A.<br>Again, from what I reviewed in            |\n| 8  | preparation for today, no.                      |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Are any of Genever BVI's assets           |\n| 10 | currently encumbered or pledged?                |\n| 11 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 12 | the question.                                   |\n| 13 | A.<br>The assets are not -- I don't think       |\n| 14 | I can answer because it's a little complicated. |\n| 15 | The assets are not pledged.<br>Genever BVI's    |\n| 16 | assets are not pledged to anyone.               |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Let's just be clear what we're            |\n| 18 | talking about when we're talking about assets.  |\n| 19 | Does Genever BVI currently have any             |\n| 20 | assets other than Genever New York?             |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes, they have their shares.              |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Whose shares?                             |\n| 23 | A.<br>Genever BVI.                              |\n| 24 | Q.<br>But doesn't Mr. Kwok hold those           |\n| 25 | shares?                                         |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 51 of 140\n\n| 1  |              | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|--------------|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.           | Yes.                                            |\n| 3  |              | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 4  |              | the question.                                   |\n| 5  | Q.           | So my question is, does Genever BVI             |\n| 6  |              | itself hold any assets other than Genever New   |\n| 7  | York?        |                                                 |\n| 8  | A.           | No.                                             |\n| 9  | Q.           | Is Genever New York currently                   |\n| 10 | encumbered?  |                                                 |\n| 11 |              | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 12 |              | the question.                                   |\n| 13 | A.           | What do you mean by \"encumbered\"?               |\n| 14 | Q.           | Is it currently pledged to anyone?              |\n| 15 | A.           | No.                                             |\n| 16 | Q.           | Does anyone currently have a lien               |\n| 17 | against it?  |                                                 |\n| 18 | A.           | No.                                             |\n| 19 | Q.           | Has it been promised to anybody in              |\n| 20 |              | connection with any possible future             |\n| 21 | transaction? |                                                 |\n| 22 |              | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 23 |              | the question.                                   |\n| 24 | A.           | There's the order from Judge                    |\n| 25 |              | Ostrager in the case indicating that if Genever |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 52 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | New York has to -- enters into a contract to    |\n| 3  | sell The Sherry-Netherland residence, it has to |\n| 4  | provide PAX with written notice.                |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Other than Justice Ostrager's order,      |\n| 6  | is Genever New York encumbered in any way?      |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 8  | the question.                                   |\n| 9  | A.<br>No, not that I'm aware of.                |\n| 10 | Q.<br>You testified that there was a point      |\n| 11 | in time where the assets of Genever BVI were    |\n| 12 | pledged -- strike that.                         |\n| 13 | Has Genever BVI been assigned to                |\n| 14 | anyone?                                         |\n| 15 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 16 | the question.                                   |\n| 17 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 18 | Q.<br>You mentioned that there was a time       |\n| 19 | when Genever BVI's assets were pledged to an    |\n| 20 | entity called Roscalitar 2; is that correct?    |\n| 21 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 22 | the question.                                   |\n| 23 | A.<br>I believe that Genever BVI pledged        |\n| 24 | its shares to Roscalitar 2, but yes.            |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Pledged its shares in Genever New         |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 53 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | York?                                           |\n| 3  | A.<br>Its shares in Genever BVI.                |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Genever BVI pledged its own shares,       |\n| 5  | 100 percent of its shares to Roscalitar 2?      |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes, I believe that's accurate.           |\n| 7  | Q.<br>And by virtue of pledging a hundred       |\n| 8  | percent of its own shares, it was also pledging |\n| 9  | Genever New York and the assets held by Genever |\n| 10 | New York; is that correct?                      |\n| 11 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Why was Genever BVI -- why were           |\n| 13 | Genever BVI shares pledged to Roscalitar 2?     |\n| 14 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 15 | the question.                                   |\n| 16 | A.<br>Because Zhang Wei had asked Genever       |\n| 17 | to pledge its shares via the loan.              |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Why did Zhang Wei want Genever to         |\n| 19 | pledge its shares?                              |\n| 20 | A.<br>As security for the loan that he          |\n| 21 | gave to Genever ultimately to buy the           |\n| 22 | residence.                                      |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Who made the decision to pledge the       |\n| 24 | shares of Genever BVI to Roscalitar 2?          |\n| 25 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form.            |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 54 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>On behalf of Genever?                     |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 4  | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                                |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Was Mr. Kwok involved in that             |\n| 6  | decision?                                       |\n| 7  | A.<br>I believe he was.<br>I don't know for     |\n| 8  | certain.                                        |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Did he know about the pledge at the       |\n| 10 | time it was entered into?                       |\n| 11 | A.<br>I believe so.                             |\n| 12 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>I just caution the             |\n| 13 | witness.<br>He said I believe.<br>Don't         |\n| 14 | speculate.<br>If you're speculating, please     |\n| 15 | don't do so, but                                |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Was there any board resolution or         |\n| 17 | any official activity to commemorate the pledge |\n| 18 | to Roscalitar 2?                                |\n| 19 | A.<br>Not from what I reviewed in               |\n| 20 | preparation for today.                          |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Is Roscalitar 2 owned by Zhang Wei?       |\n| 22 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Is it controlled by Zhang Wei?            |\n| 24 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Do you know who owns or controls          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 55 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Roscalitar 2?                                   |\n| 3  | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 4  | Q.<br>There came a time when the pledge to      |\n| 5  | Roscalitar 2 was taken off; is that correct?    |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 7  | Q.<br>And that was in or around May of          |\n| 8  | 2015; is that right?                            |\n| 9  | A.<br>When the pledge was taken off?<br>I'd     |\n| 10 | have to review the dates, but it sounds         |\n| 11 | somewhere around that time.                     |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Why was the pledge to Roscalitar 2        |\n| 13 | taken off?                                      |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Was there any board meeting or            |\n| 16 | activity, formal corporate resolution around    |\n| 17 | that?                                           |\n| 18 | A.<br>Not from what I reviewed in               |\n| 19 | preparation for today.                          |\n| 20 | Q.<br>I think you testified earlier that        |\n| 21 | later, after the pledge to Roscalitar was taken |\n| 22 | off, Genever BVI shares were pledged to a       |\n| 23 | company called Blue Capital; is that correct?   |\n| 24 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 25 | Q.<br>And why were the shares pledged to        |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 56 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Blue Capital?                                   |\n| 3  | A.<br>Guo Qiang was looking to obtain a         |\n| 4  | loan facility and he wanted to pledge the       |\n| 5  | shares of Genever BVI to Blue Capital as        |\n| 6  | security for a loan facility.                   |\n| 7  | Q.<br>What was the loan for?                    |\n| 8  | A.<br>He wanted to invest, you know, do         |\n| 9  | other kinds of investments.                     |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Do you know who controls or owns          |\n| 11 | Blue Capital?                                   |\n| 12 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Was Mr. Kwok involved in the              |\n| 14 | decision to pledge Genever BVI's shares to Blue |\n| 15 | Capital?                                        |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Did he know about the pledge?             |\n| 18 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Was the pledge to Blue Capital at         |\n| 20 | some point taken off?                           |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes, I believe so.                        |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Why?                                      |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 24 | Q.<br>And, currently, there's no pledge of      |\n| 25 | Genever BVI; is that correct?                   |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 57 of 140\n\n| 1<br>PODHASKIE                                       |\n|------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2<br>A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 3<br>(Podhaskie Exhibit 4, Certificate of            |\n| 4<br>Registration of Charge, marked for              |\n| 5<br>identification.)                                |\n| 6<br>Q.<br>Mr. Podhaskie, I have handed you          |\n| 7<br>Exhibit 4.                                      |\n| 8<br>Can you identify this document?                 |\n| 9<br>A.<br>(Document review.)<br>This appears to     |\n| 10<br>be a copy of the pledge from Genever BVI to    |\n| 11<br>Roscalitar 2.                                  |\n| 12<br>Q.<br>And it was put on on May 21, 2015;       |\n| 13<br>is that correct?                               |\n| 14<br>A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 15<br>Q.<br>Does this appear, based on your work     |\n| 16<br>to prepare for this deposition, does this      |\n| 17<br>appear to be a true and correct copy of the    |\n| 18<br>registration of charge?                        |\n| 19<br>A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Yes.               |\n| 20<br>Q.<br>And is this, this charge, Exhibit 4,     |\n| 21<br>is that a document that Genever BVI would have |\n| 22<br>retained in the ordinary course of its         |\n| 23<br>business?                                      |\n| 24<br>A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 25<br>Q.<br>Is the same true for the other           |\n|                                                      |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 58 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | exhibits that I've shown you today, other than  |\n| 3  | Exhibits 1 and 2, so Exhibits 3 and 4 are also  |\n| 4  | documents that would have been retained by      |\n| 5  | Genever BVI in the ordinary course of its       |\n| 6  | business?                                       |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>I just want to ask             |\n| 8  | you, for the record, you asked him about        |\n| 9  | 4, he said yes.                                 |\n| 10 | So you're really only asking him                |\n| 11 | about 3 now, correct?                           |\n| 12 | MR. MOSS:<br>Yes.                               |\n| 13 | Q.<br>If you can flip through 3.<br>Are         |\n| 14 | those documents that Genever BVI or Genever New |\n| 15 | York maintained in the ordinary course of its   |\n| 16 | business?                                       |\n| 17 | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Yes.                |\n| 18 | (Podhaskie Exhibit 5, Notice of                 |\n| 19 | Satisfaction or Release of Registered           |\n| 20 | Charge Pursuant to Section 165, marked for      |\n| 21 | identification.)                                |\n| 22 | Q.<br>You have been handed Exhibit 5,           |\n| 23 | Mr. Podhaskie, which is a Notice of             |\n| 24 | Satisfaction or Release of Registered Charge    |\n| 25 | Pursuant to Section 165.                        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 59 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Can you identify this document,                 |\n| 3  | please?                                         |\n| 4  | A.<br>This appears to be a copy of a            |\n| 5  | Notice of Satisfaction or Release of Registered |\n| 6  | Charge dated May -- sorry -- March 17, 2017.    |\n| 7  | Q.<br>And does this appear to be a true         |\n| 8  | and correct and authentic copy of the           |\n| 9  | satisfaction of charge?                         |\n| 10 | A.<br>From what I reviewed in preparation       |\n| 11 | for today, yes.                                 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>And is this a document that Genever       |\n| 13 | BVI would have maintained in the ordinary       |\n| 14 | course of its business?                         |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 16 | Q.<br>And is that consistent with Genever       |\n| 17 | BVI's testimony that the pledge to Roscalitar 2 |\n| 18 | was taken off on March 17, 2017?                |\n| 19 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 20 | the question.                                   |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 22 | Q.<br>After March 17, 2017, was Genever         |\n| 23 | BVI ever again pledged to Roscalitar 2?         |\n| 24 | A.<br>From the documents that I reviewed        |\n| 25 | in preparation for today, no.                   |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 60 of 140\n\n| 1<br>PODHASKIE                                       |\n|------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2<br>(Podhaskie Exhibit 6, Defendant's               |\n| 3<br>Memorandum of Law in Opposition to              |\n| 4<br>Plaintiff's Motion for an Order of              |\n| 5<br>Pre-Judgment Attachment, marked for             |\n| 6<br>identification.)                                |\n| 7<br>Q.<br>Mr. Podhaskie, you have been handed       |\n| 8<br>Exhibit 6, which is Defendant's Memorandum of   |\n| 9<br>Law in Opposition to Plaintiff's Motion for an  |\n| 10<br>Order of Pre-Judgment Attachment filed by      |\n| 11<br>Hodgson Russ LLP on behalf of the defendant.   |\n| 12<br>Have you ever seen this document               |\n| 13<br>before?                                        |\n| 14<br>A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 15<br>Q.<br>I'm going to direct your attention       |\n| 16<br>to page 9, and I would like to direct your     |\n| 17<br>attention -- you see the paragraph that starts |\n| 18<br>\"As explained\"?                                |\n| 19<br>A.<br>Which page -- which number 9?            |\n| 20<br>Q.<br>Sure.<br>It's 9 or 15 of 30.             |\n| 21<br>A.<br>Okay.<br>Yes.                            |\n| 22<br>Q.<br>And if you jump down one, two,           |\n| 23<br>three, four, five -- six lines down.           |\n| 24<br>A.<br>Uh-huh.                                  |\n| 25<br>Q.<br>Do you see a sentence that starts        |\n|                                                      |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 61 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | with \"While Kwok\"?                              |\n| 3  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 4  | Q.<br>\"While Kwok is the sole shareholder       |\n| 5  | of Genever BVI, since May of 2015, the assets   |\n| 6  | of Genever BVI -- which by virtue of its        |\n| 7  | ownership of Genever USA include the            |\n| 8  | apartment -- have been pledged in their         |\n| 9  | entirety to Roscalitar 2, an unrelated third    |\n| 10 | party not owned by Kwok.\"                       |\n| 11 | Do you see that?                                |\n| 12 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 13 | Q.<br>And if you look at the top, do you        |\n| 14 | see that this document is dated May 16 of 2018? |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 16 | Q.<br>And as of this date, the assets of        |\n| 17 | Genever BVI were not, in fact, pledged to       |\n| 18 | Roscalitar 2; is that correct?                  |\n| 19 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 20 | the question.                                   |\n| 21 | A.<br>I think we established that the           |\n| 22 | Genever BVI pledge to Roscalitar 2 was removed  |\n| 23 | effective March 17, 2017, if I'm not mistaken.  |\n| 24 | Q.<br>So this is not a true statement; is       |\n| 25 | that correct?                                   |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 62 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 3  | the question.                                  |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't know that the release of the     |\n| 5  | charge was publicly available to Hodgson Russ  |\n| 6  | when they filed this brief.                    |\n| 7  | Q.<br>So try to focus on the question.         |\n| 8  | I'm not asking you whether or not Hodgson Russ |\n| 9  | knew that the statement was false.             |\n| 10 | I'm just asking you whether or not             |\n| 11 | this statement, when it was made to the court  |\n| 12 | on May 16, 2018, was true or false.            |\n| 13 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 14 | the question.                                  |\n| 15 | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Again, if the      |\n| 16 | release of the charge was not publicly         |\n| 17 | available and was not known to Hodgson Russ,   |\n| 18 | then this statement would have been accurate.  |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Let me try it again.                     |\n| 20 | Was this statement true or false?              |\n| 21 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 22 | the question.                                  |\n| 23 | Q.<br>When it was made on May 16, 2018?        |\n| 24 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Asked and answered.           |\n| 25 | A.<br>And the statement you're referring       |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 63 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | to is?                                            |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Is the representation here that the         |\n| 4  | assets of Genever BVI have been pledged in        |\n| 5  | their entirety to Roscalitar 2 since May 2015.    |\n| 6  | A.<br>Again, I would refer to my prior            |\n| 7  | answer.                                           |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Mr. Podhaskie, that's a false               |\n| 9  | statement, correct?                               |\n| 10 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of            |\n| 11 | the question.                                     |\n| 12 | A.<br>What do you mean by \"false                  |\n| 13 | statement\"?                                       |\n| 14 | Q.<br>I mean, it was not true, as of              |\n| 15 | May 16, 2018, that the assets of Genever BVI      |\n| 16 | were pledged to Roscalitar 2, right?              |\n| 17 | A.<br>The pledge was released with an             |\n| 18 | effective date of March 17, 2017.<br>I don't know |\n| 19 | when this was filed with the BVI records or       |\n| 20 | with the BVI Business Companies Act.              |\n| 21 | So I don't know what was available                |\n| 22 | in May of 2018 that would have reflected          |\n| 23 | whether or not the assets were still pledged.     |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Were the assets of Genever BVI              |\n| 25 | pledged to Roscalitar 2 as of May 16, 2018?       |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 64 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Objection to the form            |\n| 3  | of the question, asked and answered.              |\n| 4  | You have asked him the same question              |\n| 5  | six times.<br>You're not getting the answer       |\n| 6  | you want.<br>I'm sorry for that.<br>But he has    |\n| 7  | answered it.                                      |\n| 8  | MR. MOSS:<br>He hasn't answered it.               |\n| 9  | A.<br>Okay.<br>So what was the question?          |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Were the assets of Genever BVI              |\n| 11 | pledged to Roscalitar 2 as of May 16, 2018?       |\n| 12 | A.<br>The pledge from Genever BVI to              |\n| 13 | Roscalitar 2 was released effective March 17,     |\n| 14 | 2017.                                             |\n| 15 | Q.<br>So the answer to my question is no,         |\n| 16 | right?                                            |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of            |\n| 18 | the question.                                     |\n| 19 | A.<br>What was your question?                     |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Try to listen to the question and           |\n| 21 | answer the question I'm asking.<br>You'd know the |\n| 22 | question I was asking if you were trying to       |\n| 23 | answer it.                                        |\n| 24 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Objection to whatever            |\n| 25 | that was.                                         |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 65 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Were the assets of Genever BVI           |\n| 3  | pledged to Roscalitar 2 as of May 16, 2018?    |\n| 4  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Objection, asked and          |\n| 5  | answered.                                      |\n| 6  | A.<br>Again, the pledge to Roscalitar 2        |\n| 7  | from Genever BVI was released effective        |\n| 8  | March 17, 2017.<br>I think that answers your   |\n| 9  | question.                                      |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Did anyone at Genever BVI or Genever     |\n| 11 | New York review this brief before it was filed |\n| 12 | with the court?                                |\n| 13 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 14 | the question.<br>This is outside of the        |\n| 15 | scope of what you asked him in terms of        |\n| 16 | your deposition notices.<br>You didn't ask     |\n| 17 | him about any legal documents filed or         |\n| 18 | anything of that nature.                       |\n| 19 | So if he can answer the question, I            |\n| 20 | will allow him to answer it, but he            |\n| 21 | certainly can't be expected to have that       |\n| 22 | knowledge.                                     |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Can you answer?                          |\n| 24 | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 25 | Q.<br>By the way, do you know when Genever     |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 66 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | BVI received -- you testified earlier that the  |\n| 3  | satisfaction of charge document was maintained  |\n| 4  | by Genever BVI in the ordinary course of its    |\n| 5  | business, right?                                |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Do you know when Genever BVI              |\n| 8  | received a copy of that document?               |\n| 9  | A.<br>I don't.                                  |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Do you have any reason to believe         |\n| 11 | that it took a year for Genever BVI to receive  |\n| 12 | a copy of that document?                        |\n| 13 | A.<br>I don't know how long it took for         |\n| 14 | them to receive the document.                   |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Is it your best understanding that        |\n| 16 | Genever BVI, when you say it maintained the     |\n| 17 | document in its ordinary course, would have had |\n| 18 | that document in its files by the end of 2017?  |\n| 19 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 20 | the question.                                   |\n| 21 | A.<br>I don't know, but based on my             |\n| 22 | experience with lawyers and people in the BVI,  |\n| 23 | they do things much slower than we do.          |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Do you know whether or not the            |\n| 25 | satisfaction of charge of the Roscalitar pledge |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 67 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n|    |                                                |\n| 2  | was publicly available in 2017?                |\n| 3  | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 4  | Q.<br>It's not Genever BVI's testimony         |\n| 5  | that it takes a year for documents registered  |\n| 6  | in -- relating to charges in the BVI to become |\n| 7  | publicly available, is it?                     |\n| 8  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 9  | the question.                                  |\n| 10 | And, again, this is outside the                |\n| 11 | scope of the 30(b)(6) notice.<br>If he         |\n| 12 | knows, he can answer, but he certainly         |\n| 13 | can't be expected to know.                     |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't know how long it takes.          |\n| 15 | (Podhaskie Exhibit 7, Certificate of           |\n| 16 | Registration of Charge, marked for             |\n| 17 | identification.)                               |\n| 18 | Q.<br>You have been handed Exhibit 7,          |\n| 19 | Mr. Podhaskie.                                 |\n| 20 | Can you identify this document?                |\n| 21 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>I'm sorry.<br>We are          |\n| 22 | calling this 7?                                |\n| 23 | MR. MOSS:<br>Yes.                              |\n| 24 | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>It appears to be   |\n| 25 | a copy of a Certificate of Registration of     |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 68 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Charge dated February 14, 2018.                 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>And is this the charge, the pledge        |\n| 4  | to Blue Capital that you testified that was     |\n| 5  | made in connection with Guo Qiang's loan?       |\n| 6  | A.<br>It would appear to be, yes.               |\n| 7  | Q.<br>To your knowledge, is this -- to          |\n| 8  | Genever BVI's knowledge, is this a true and     |\n| 9  | accurate copy of the pledge document?           |\n| 10 | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Yes, it appears     |\n| 11 | to be.                                          |\n| 12 | Q.<br>And is this a document that Genever       |\n| 13 | BVI maintains in the ordinary course of its     |\n| 14 | business?                                       |\n| 15 | A.<br>This would be, yes.                       |\n| 16 | Q.<br>And is Genever BVI's testimony that       |\n| 17 | it's not sure whether or not its sole director  |\n| 18 | and sole shareholder, Mr. Kwok, knew about this |\n| 19 | pledge when it was entered into?                |\n| 20 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 21 | the question.                                   |\n| 22 | You can answer.                                 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Who would know the answer to that         |\n| 25 | question?                                       |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 69 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Probably Mr. Kwok.                        |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Well, you recall Mr. Kwok testified       |\n| 4  | that he didn't know anything about any pledges, |\n| 5  | right?<br>Did you know that?                    |\n| 6  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 7  | the question.                                   |\n| 8  | A.<br>If that's what his testimony was.<br>I    |\n| 9  | don't recall exactly what he testified to.      |\n| 10 | Q.<br>At the time this pledge was entered       |\n| 11 | into, Mr. Kwok was still the sole shareholder   |\n| 12 | and sole director of Genever BVI, right?        |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Were there any discussions at             |\n| 15 | Genever BVI regarding the fact that this        |\n| 16 | charge, this pledge was entered into when       |\n| 17 | Pacific Alliance's lawsuit was pending?         |\n| 18 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Objection to the form          |\n| 19 | of the question.                                |\n| 20 | A.<br>Not that I'm aware of.                    |\n| 21 | Q.<br>You testified earlier that this Blue      |\n| 22 | Capital pledge, at some point, was taken off or |\n| 23 | satisfied; is that correct?                     |\n| 24 | A.<br>That's my understanding, yes.             |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Did that -- did you testify -- let        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 70 of 140\n\n**68**\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 me just ask, what was the reason for it being 3 taken off? 4 A. I don't know. 5 Q. Was it taken off -- was the 6 reason -- strike that. 7 Was it taken off for anything having 8 to do with Pacific Alliance's lawsuit? 9 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 10 the question. 11 A. I don't know. 12 Q. Was it taken off for anything having 13 to do with The Sherry-Netherland's proprietary 14 lease? 15 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 16 the question. 17 A. I don't know. 18 Q. Were the pledges in violation of 19 Genever New York's proprietary lease with The 20 Sherry-Netherland? 21 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 22 the question. It calls for a legal 23 conclusion. 24 A. No. 25 Q. Did Genever -- no. Okay.**\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 71 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | (Podhaskie Exhibit 8, Notice of                 |\n| 3  | Satisfaction or Release of Registered           |\n| 4  | Charge, marked for identification.)             |\n| 5  | Q.<br>You have been handed Exhibit 8,           |\n| 6  | Mr. Podhaskie.                                  |\n| 7  | Can you identify it, please?                    |\n| 8  | A.<br>This appears to be a copy of a            |\n| 9  | Notice of Satisfaction or Release of Registered |\n| 10 | Charge.<br>It's dated effective June 12, 2018.  |\n| 11 | Q.<br>And is this the satisfaction of the       |\n| 12 | Blue Capital charge that we were just talking   |\n| 13 | about?                                          |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Is this a true and correct copy,          |\n| 16 | authentic copy of the satisfaction of charge?   |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 18 | the question.                                   |\n| 19 | A.<br>It would appear to be, yes.               |\n| 20 | Q.<br>And is this a document that's             |\n| 21 | maintained by Genever BVI in the ordinary       |\n| 22 | course of its business?                         |\n| 23 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 24 | the question.                                   |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes, it would be.                         |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 72 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>And you don't have anything to add        |\n|    |                                                 |\n| 3  | about discussions around this or why this       |\n| 4  | pledge was taken off, right?                    |\n| 5  | A.<br>No, I don't know why it was taken         |\n| 6  | off.                                            |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Did you ask Guo Qiang, when you           |\n| 8  | spoke to him to prepare for the deposition, why |\n| 9  | this pledge was taken off?                      |\n| 10 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Did Genever BVI -- anyone at Genever      |\n| 12 | BVI ever have any discussions about             |\n| 13 | transferring ownership of Genever BVI to anyone |\n| 14 | other than Mr. Kwok?                            |\n| 15 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 16 | the question.                                   |\n| 17 | A.<br>I don't know.<br>Not that I'm aware       |\n| 18 | of.                                             |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Did Genever BVI, or anyone on behalf      |\n| 20 | of Genever BVI, ever approach The               |\n| 21 | Sherry-Netherland to ask whether or not the     |\n| 22 | ownership of Genever BVI could be restructured  |\n| 23 | and assigned to Mr. Kwok's son?                 |\n| 24 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 25 | the question.                                   |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 73 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>No, not on behalf of Genever BVI.         |\n| 3  | Q.<br>On behalf of anyone?<br>Were there        |\n|    |                                                 |\n| 4  | ever any -- was there ever a request to The     |\n| 5  | Sherry-Netherland to transfer or assign         |\n| 6  | ownership of Genever BVI or Genever New York or |\n| 7  | The Sherry-Netherland to Mr. Kwok's son?        |\n| 8  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 9  | the question.                                   |\n| 10 | A.<br>There was a request made to The           |\n| 11 | Sherry-Netherland to transfer ownership from    |\n| 12 | Mr. Kwok to Guo Qiang, his son.                 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>To transfer ownership of what?            |\n| 14 | A.<br>The Sherry-Netherland.                    |\n| 15 | Q.<br>And when was that request made?           |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't recall the date off the top       |\n| 17 | of my head.                                     |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Whose idea was it to make that            |\n| 19 | request?                                        |\n| 20 | A.<br>I believe Guo Qiang.                      |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Why was the request made?                 |\n| 22 | A.<br>Because he initially wanted to            |\n| 23 | purchase The Sherry-Netherland himself and The  |\n| 24 | Sherry didn't like the idea of someone his age  |\n| 25 | at the time, you know, a mid 20-year-old,       |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 74 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | owning this residence.<br>And so his father     |\n| 3  | became the owner and then they had the idea of, |\n| 4  | after the fact, maybe approaching the board and |\n| 5  | seeing if Guo Qiang could become the owner.     |\n| 6  | Q.<br>And did Mr. Kwok know about that          |\n| 7  | request?                                        |\n| 8  | A.<br>Yes, I think he was aware of it.          |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Do you know who made the request to       |\n| 10 | The Sherry-Netherland?                          |\n| 11 | A.<br>Who specifically, no.                     |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Were there ever any other                 |\n| 13 | discussions about transferring ownership of     |\n| 14 | Genever BVI, Genever New York or The            |\n| 15 | Sherry-Netherland to anyone other than          |\n| 16 | Mr. Kwok?                                       |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 18 | the question.                                   |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Other than the discussions we have        |\n| 21 | talked about, about the pledges?                |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 23 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Sorry.<br>Just for the         |\n| 24 | record, I just want to make sure.               |\n| 25 | You're answering his question that              |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 75 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | you understood his question to mean only        |\n| 3  | discussions about the pledges, correct,         |\n| 4  | not, yes, there were other -- the record        |\n| 5  | is just not clear.<br>I just want to make       |\n| 6  | sure --                                         |\n| 7  | MR. MOSS:<br>Let me try it again.               |\n| 8  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Yeah.                          |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Other than the pledges that we've         |\n| 10 | talked about to Roscalitar 2 and Blue Capital,  |\n| 11 | and other than the request to transfer          |\n| 12 | ownership of The Sherry-Netherland to           |\n| 13 | Mr. Kwok's son, were there ever any discussions |\n| 14 | about pledges, transfers or assignments of      |\n| 15 | either Genever BVI, Genever New York or The     |\n| 16 | Sherry-Netherland?                              |\n| 17 | A.<br>There was a trust agreement with          |\n| 18 | Bravo Luck, but other than that, I don't know.  |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Is it true that Mr. Kwok has an           |\n| 20 | ownership interest in The Sherry-Netherland     |\n| 21 | apartment?                                      |\n| 22 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 23 | the question.                                   |\n| 24 | A.<br>No, that's not accurate.                  |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Kwok own The                     |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 76 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |  |  |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|--|--|\n| 2  | Sherry-Netherland apartment through his        |  |  |\n| 3  | ownership of Genever BVI which, in turn, owns  |  |  |\n| 4  | Genever New York which, in turn, owns the      |  |  |\n| 5  | apartment?                                     |  |  |\n| 6  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |  |  |\n| 7  | the question.                                  |  |  |\n| 8  | A.<br>No, that's not accurate.                 |  |  |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Is it true that Mr. Kwok's      |  |  |\n| 10 | ownership interest in the apartment is through |  |  |\n| 11 | a limited liability company?                   |  |  |\n| 12 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |  |  |\n| 13 | the question.                                  |  |  |\n| 14 | A.<br>That's not accurate.                     |  |  |\n| 15 | Q.<br>This is Exhibit 24 from Mr. Kwok's       |  |  |\n| 16 | deposition.                                    |  |  |\n| 17 | MR. MOSS:<br>Sorry.<br>We don't have           |  |  |\n| 18 | extra copies, but we handed it out today       |  |  |\n| 19 | during Mr. Kwok's deposition.                  |  |  |\n| 20 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>Counsel, we have          |  |  |\n| 21 | three minutes left on the tape.                |  |  |\n| 22 | We are now off the record.<br>The time         |  |  |\n| 23 | is 4:25 p.m.                                   |  |  |\n| 24 | (Recess taken.)                                |  |  |\n| 25 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>This marks the            |  |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 77 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                     |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | beginning of tape number two.<br>We are now   |\n| 3  | back on the record.<br>The time is 4:38 p.m.  |\n| 4  | BY MR. MOSS:                                  |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Mr. Podhaskie, you have in front of     |\n| 6  | you Yvette Wang's, Yan Ping Wang's affidavit  |\n| 7  | submitted in this case on May 16, 2018 or --  |\n| 8  | it's sworn on May 15, and the ECF stamp is    |\n| 9  | May 16.                                       |\n| 10 | Do you see that?                              |\n| 11 | A.<br>Yes.                                    |\n| 12 | Q.<br>This was Exhibit 24 from Mr. Kwok's     |\n| 13 | deposition earlier today.                     |\n| 14 | Do you recall I asked you whether or          |\n| 15 | not Mr. Kwok has an ownership interest in the |\n| 16 | apartment through a limited liability company |\n| 17 | and you testified, no, he does not?           |\n| 18 | Do you recall that testimony?                 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Yes.                                    |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Take a look at paragraph 2.<br>The      |\n| 21 | first sentence reads, \"Mr. Kwok's ownership   |\n| 22 | interest in the apartment through a limited   |\n| 23 | liability company is not in real property.\"   |\n| 24 | Is it a true statement that Mr. Kwok          |\n| 25 | has an ownership interest in The              |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 78 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Sherry-Netherland apartment through a limited     |\n| 3  | liability company?                                |\n| 4  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of            |\n| 5  | the question.                                     |\n| 6  | A.<br>Mr. Kwok does not have an ownership         |\n| 7  | interest in the apartment.<br>He has an ownership |\n| 8  | interest in The Sherry-Netherland Corporation,    |\n| 9  | which then leases the real property to Genever    |\n| 10 | New York.                                         |\n| 11 | Q.<br>So Mr. Kwok's ownership interest is         |\n| 12 | in The Sherry-Netherland Corporation?             |\n| 13 | A.<br>His ownership interest of the shares        |\n| 14 | of The Sherry-Netherland Corporation, is that     |\n| 15 | what you're referring to?                         |\n| 16 | Q.<br>You testified he has a ownership            |\n| 17 | interest in The Sherry-Netherland Corporation.    |\n| 18 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 19 | Q.<br>That's correct, Mr. Kwok has an             |\n| 20 | ownership interest in The Sherry-Netherland       |\n| 21 | Corporation?                                      |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 23 | Q.<br>And that ownership interest relates         |\n| 24 | to the apartment on the 18th floor?               |\n| 25 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of            |\n|    |                                                   |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 79 of 140\n\n**77**\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 the question. 3 A. He has a proprietary lease to the 4 apartment on the 18th floor, yes. 5 Q. That's related to that ownership 6 interest -- 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. -- in The Sherry-Netherland 9 Corporation, right? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. And Mr. Kwok owns that interest in 12 The Sherry-Netherland Corporation shares 13 through Genever New York and through Genever 14 BVI, right? 15 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 16 the question. 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. Does anyone else, other than 19 Mr. Kwok, Miles Kwok, have an ownership 20 interest in the shares of The Sherry-Netherland 21 Hotel with respect to the 18th floor apartment? 22 A. I don't know. 23 Q. As Genever BVI and Genever New 24 York's corporate representative, can you 25 identify anyone else, sitting here today?**\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 80 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 3  | the question.                                   |\n| 4  | A.<br>Sitting here in this room?                |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Yeah.                                     |\n| 6  | A.<br>That has an ownership interest in --      |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>That was my                    |\n| 8  | objection.                                      |\n| 9  | MR. MOSS:<br>Okay.<br>That's what               |\n| 10 | happens when you depose a lawyer.               |\n| 11 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>For the record,                |\n| 12 | several people in the room will gladly          |\n| 13 | accept an ownership share in The Sherry.        |\n| 14 | Q.<br>As Genever BVI's and Genever New          |\n| 15 | York's corporate representative here today, can |\n| 16 | you identify anyone else who has an ownership   |\n| 17 | interest in the shares of The Sherry-Netherland |\n| 18 | Hotel with respect to the 18th floor apartment  |\n| 19 | beside Mr. Miles Kwok?                          |\n| 20 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 21 | the question.                                   |\n| 22 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Kwok -- strike that.             |\n| 24 | Has Guo Qiang ever lived in The                 |\n| 25 | Sherry-Netherland apartment on the 18th floor?  |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 81 of 140\n\n| 1  |                      | PODHASKIE                                     |\n|----|----------------------|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  |                      | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of        |\n| 3  |                      | the question.                                 |\n| 4  | A.                   | When you say \"lived,\" do you mean             |\n| 5  | primary residence?   |                                               |\n| 6  | Q.                   | I mean, has he ever resided there             |\n| 7  |                      | for extended periods of time?                 |\n| 8  | A.                   | Yes.                                          |\n| 9  | Q.                   | Has The Sherry-Netherland Hotel ever          |\n| 10 |                      | been Guo Qiang's primary residence?           |\n| 11 | A.                   | Yes.                                          |\n| 12 | Q.                   | When?                                         |\n| 13 | A.                   | I'm speculating, but I think it was           |\n| 14 | in 2015.             |                                               |\n| 15 | Q.                   | Since 2015, has Guo Qiang ever                |\n| 16 | been -- strike that. |                                               |\n| 17 |                      | Since 2015, has The                           |\n| 18 |                      | Sherry-Netherland Hotel ever been Guo Qiang's |\n| 19 | primary residence?   |                                               |\n| 20 | A.                   | I don't know.                                 |\n| 21 | Q.                   | Has he ever visited since 2015?               |\n| 22 |                      | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form.          |\n| 23 |                      | MR. MOSS:<br>Let me try it again.             |\n| 24 | Strike it.           |                                               |\n| 25 | Q.                   | Has Guo Qiang ever slept in The               |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 82 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Sherry-Netherland apartment since 2015?           |\n| 3  | A.<br>I assume so, but I can't say, you           |\n| 4  | know, with certainty.<br>I don't -- I don't sleep |\n| 5  | with him, so.                                     |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Let's go back to Exhibit 3,                 |\n| 7  | Mr. Podhaskie, and I would like to direct your    |\n| 8  | attention to page KWOK193.                        |\n| 9  | A.<br>Okay.                                       |\n| 10 | Q.<br>See it says, in the first paragraph,        |\n| 11 | it refers to Genever BVI being the sole member    |\n| 12 | of Genever New York.                              |\n| 13 | Is Genever BVI the sole member of                 |\n| 14 | Genever New York?                                 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Just for the record, it says \"being         |\n| 16 | the sole director of Genever Holdings             |\n| 17 | Corporation.\"                                     |\n| 18 | Q.<br>So take a look at the first                 |\n| 19 | resolution.<br>See \"Resolved, that Andrea Sanft\"? |\n| 20 | Do you see that?                                  |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes, yes.                                   |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And look at the last sentence of            |\n| 23 | that paragraph.<br>\"To the extent necessary to    |\n| 24 | complete such actions, the corporation,\" and      |\n| 25 | the corporation refers to Genever BVI?            |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 83 of 140\n\n**81**\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 A. Uh-huh. 3 Q. \"As sole member of Genever New 4 York.\" 5 Do you see that? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. Is Genever BVI the sole member of 8 Genever New York? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. Has Genever BVI been the sole member 11 of Genever New York since Genever New York's 12 foundation? 13 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 14 the question. 15 A. Yes. 16 MR. MOSS: Well, that's because it's 17 a bad question. 18 Q. Has Genever BVI been the sole member 19 of Genever New York's since Genever New York's 20 formation? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. If you look at the third resolution 23 there, there's a resolution relating to Michael 24 O'Connor. 25 A. Uh-huh.**\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 84 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |  |  |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|--|--|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Who is Michael O'Connor?                    |  |  |\n| 3  | A.<br>He is an attorney either with the           |  |  |\n| 4  | firm of Paul Weiss or Williams & Connolly.<br>I'm |  |  |\n| 5  | not sure.<br>I think Paul Weiss, but I'm not      |  |  |\n| 6  | positive.                                         |  |  |\n| 7  | Q.<br>And so Ms. Sanft was authorized to          |  |  |\n| 8  | form Genever New York, and Mr. O'Connor was       |  |  |\n| 9  | authorized to cause Genever New York, once        |  |  |\n| 10 | formed, to enter into a purchase agreement with   |  |  |\n| 11 | The Sherry-Netherland; is that correct?           |  |  |\n| 12 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of            |  |  |\n| 13 | the question.                                     |  |  |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |  |  |\n| 15 | Q.<br>And so the plan, from formation, was        |  |  |\n| 16 | that once Genever New York was formed, it would   |  |  |\n| 17 | enter into a purchase agreement with The          |  |  |\n| 18 | Sherry-Netherland relating to the 18th floor,     |  |  |\n| 19 | correct?                                          |  |  |\n| 20 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of            |  |  |\n| 21 | the question.                                     |  |  |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |  |  |\n| 23 | Q.<br>And the purpose of forming Genever          |  |  |\n| 24 | New York was to enter into that agreement with    |  |  |\n| 25 | The Sherry-Netherland?                            |  |  |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 85 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |  |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |  |\n| 3  | the question.                                   |  |\n| 4  | A.<br>That was one of the purposes, yes.        |  |\n| 5  | Q.<br>What were the other purposes?             |  |\n| 6  | A.<br>To invest in other real estate as         |  |\n| 7  | they deemed fit.                                |  |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Genever New York and Genever BVI          |  |\n| 9  | were formed within days of each other, right?   |  |\n| 10 | A.<br>Yes, around the same time.                |  |\n| 11 | Q.<br>You said that Genever New York had        |  |\n| 12 | other purposes to invest in other real estate   |  |\n| 13 | as they deemed fit.                             |  |\n| 14 | Has Genever New York ever invested              |  |\n| 15 | in any other real estate besides The            |  |\n| 16 | Sherry-Netherland Hotel?                        |  |\n| 17 | A.<br>No.                                       |  |\n| 18 | Q.<br>So Genever New York and Genever BVI       |  |\n| 19 | were both formed to hold Mr. Kwok's interest in |  |\n| 20 | The Sherry-Netherland apartment?                |  |\n| 21 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |  |\n| 22 | the question.                                   |  |\n| 23 | A.<br>That's not accurate.                      |  |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>What's inaccurate about it?      |  |\n| 25 | A.<br>Initially, Guo Qiang, Mr. Kwok's          |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 86 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                        |  |  |  |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|\n| 2  | son, wanted to purchase the apartment at The     |  |  |  |\n| 3  | Sherry-Netherland.<br>They formed the            |  |  |  |\n| 4  | corporations with the understanding that he      |  |  |  |\n| 5  | would be the actual owner, but The               |  |  |  |\n| 6  | Sherry-Netherland did not like the idea of Guo   |  |  |  |\n| 7  | Qiang being the owner because they felt that he  |  |  |  |\n| 8  | was too young.                                   |  |  |  |\n| 9  | Q.<br>So is it your testimony that Genever       |  |  |  |\n| 10 | New York and Genever BVI were formed to hold     |  |  |  |\n| 11 | Guo Qiang's interest in The Sherry-Netherland,   |  |  |  |\n| 12 | but Mr. Kwok just ended up being the owner       |  |  |  |\n| 13 | because that's what The Sherry-Netherland        |  |  |  |\n| 14 | wanted?                                          |  |  |  |\n| 15 | A.<br>They were formed to own the real           |  |  |  |\n| 16 | estate that Guo Qiang and the family wanted to   |  |  |  |\n| 17 | invest in.<br>They made Mr. Kwok the sole member |  |  |  |\n| 18 | of Genever BVI, and as the sole member of        |  |  |  |\n| 19 | Genever BVI, the owner of Genever New York       |  |  |  |\n| 20 | because The Sherry-Netherland felt that Guo      |  |  |  |\n| 21 | Qiang was too young to be the owner of this      |  |  |  |\n| 22 | particular apartment.                            |  |  |  |\n| 23 | Q.<br>I direct your attention to page 178        |  |  |  |\n| 24 | of Exhibit 3.                                    |  |  |  |\n| 25 | Can you identify this document?                  |  |  |  |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 87 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |  |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>It is a -- looks    |  |\n| 3  | like a printout from the New York State         |  |\n| 4  | Department of State, the corporations public    |  |\n| 5  | inquiry system for Genever Holdings LLC.        |  |\n| 6  | Q.<br>And it shows -- and that's the            |  |\n| 7  | entity we have been referring to as Genever New |  |\n| 8  | York, right?                                    |  |\n| 9  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |  |\n| 10 | Q.<br>And this document refers to Genever       |  |\n| 11 | New York being incorporated in New York         |  |\n| 12 | effective February 17, 2015; is that correct?   |  |\n| 13 | A.<br>That's what this says, yes.               |  |\n| 14 | Q.<br>And that's consistent with Genever's      |  |\n| 15 | understanding, right?                           |  |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |  |\n| 17 | Q.<br>And so Genever New York was formed        |  |\n| 18 | about five days after Genever BVI was formed?   |  |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't recall exactly, but they          |  |\n| 20 | were formed around the same time.               |  |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Does it refresh your recollection if      |  |\n| 22 | I told you a few minutes ago we looked at       |  |\n| 23 | documents showing that Genever BVI was formed   |  |\n| 24 | on February 12?                                 |  |\n| 25 | A.<br>No.<br>Which document were we looking     |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 88 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |  |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | at?                                             |  |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Why don't you take a look at 145?         |  |\n| 4  | MR. SARNOFF:<br>Of Exhibit 3.                   |  |\n| 5  | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Yes, it was         |  |\n| 6  | formed -- according to this, it was formed      |  |\n| 7  | February 13, 2015.                              |  |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Genever BVI was formed on                 |  |\n| 9  | February 13, 2015, and Genever New York was     |  |\n| 10 | formed on February 17, 2015, right?             |  |\n| 11 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |  |\n| 12 | the question.                                   |  |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes, based on these documents.            |  |\n| 14 | Q.<br>So four days apart?                       |  |\n| 15 | A.<br>That would be correct.                    |  |\n| 16 | Q.<br>What was Genever -- Genever New York      |  |\n| 17 | was formed to enter into the agreement with The |  |\n| 18 | Sherry-Netherland Hotel, correct?               |  |\n| 19 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |  |\n| 20 | the question, asked and answered.               |  |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes, that was one of the purposes.        |  |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Has the business purpose of Genever       |  |\n| 23 | New York changed over time?                     |  |\n| 24 | A.<br>No.                                       |  |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Have any purposes been added or           |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 89 of 140\n\n| 1  |                      | PODHASKIE                                       |  |\n|----|----------------------|-------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | subtracted?          |                                                 |  |\n| 3  | A.                   | No.                                             |  |\n| 4  | Q.                   | What business has Genever New York              |  |\n| 5  |                      | conducted since it was formed in February 2015? |  |\n| 6  | A.                   | It owns The Sherry-Netherland                   |  |\n| 7  | apartment.           |                                                 |  |\n| 8  | Q.                   | Any other business?                             |  |\n| 9  | A.                   | No.                                             |  |\n| 10 | Q.                   | Has Genever New York ever entered               |  |\n| 11 |                      | into a contract other than its contracts with   |  |\n| 12 |                      | The Sherry-Netherland Hotel?                    |  |\n| 13 | A.                   | I don't know.                                   |  |\n| 14 | Q.                   | Has Genever New York ever spent or              |  |\n| 15 | disbursed any money? |                                                 |  |\n| 16 | A.                   | Yes.                                            |  |\n| 17 | Q.                   | To whom?                                        |  |\n| 18 | A.                   | The Sherry-Netherland.                          |  |\n| 19 | Q.                   | For maintenance fees?                           |  |\n| 20 | A.                   | Yes.                                            |  |\n| 21 | Q.                   | Anything else?                                  |  |\n| 22 | A.                   | I think that's it.                              |  |\n| 23 | Q.                   | Does The Sherry-Netherland -- has               |  |\n| 24 |                      | Genever New York spent any money on anything    |  |\n| 25 |                      | else other than to The Sherry-Netherland for    |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 90 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                    |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | maintenance fees?                            |\n| 3  | A.<br>Not that I know of.                    |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Does the -- does Genever New York      |\n| 5  | have a bank account?                         |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                   |\n| 7  | Q.<br>With which bank?                       |\n| 8  | A.<br>Chase.                                 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>When was that formed?                  |\n| 10 | A.<br>2018.                                  |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Does the money from the -- do the      |\n| 12 | payments to The Sherry-Netherland come from  |\n| 13 | that bank account?                           |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                   |\n| 15 | Q.<br>How is that bank account funded?       |\n| 16 | A.<br>It receives money from Golden Spring   |\n| 17 | New York.                                    |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Who owns Golden Spring New York?       |\n| 19 | A.<br>China Golden Spring Group Hong Kong    |\n| 20 | Limited.                                     |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Who owns China Golden Spring Group     |\n| 22 | Hong Kong Limited?                           |\n| 23 | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                             |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Kwok have any interest in     |\n| 25 | China Golden Spring Group Hong Kong Limited? |\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                     |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of        |\n| 3  | the question.                                 |\n| 4  | A.<br>No.                                     |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Before 2018, did Genever New York       |\n| 6  | have a bank account?                          |\n| 7  | A.<br>Before what year?                       |\n| 8  | Q.<br>2018.                                   |\n| 9  | A.<br>I don't know.                           |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Did Genever New York have to pay        |\n| 11 | maintenance to The Sherry-Netherland before   |\n| 12 | 2018?                                         |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                    |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Where did that money come from?         |\n| 15 | A.<br>I believe it came from Golden Spring    |\n| 16 | New York.                                     |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Has anyone, other than Golden Spring    |\n| 18 | New York, ever put any money into Genever New |\n| 19 | York's bank account?                          |\n| 20 | A.<br>I don't know.                           |\n| 21 | Q.<br>So, to your knowledge, Genever New      |\n| 22 | York did not have any bank account prior to   |\n| 23 | 2018?                                         |\n| 24 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of        |\n| 25 | the question.                                 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 92 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Do you know why Genever New York          |\n| 4  | formed a bank account in 2018?                  |\n| 5  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Has any money ever been deposited         |\n| 7  | into Genever New York's bank account other than |\n| 8  | money from Golden Spring that was meant to pay  |\n| 9  | the maintenance to The Sherry-Netherland hotel? |\n| 10 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Genever New York and Genever BVI are      |\n| 12 | parties to this lawsuit.                        |\n| 13 | You're aware of that?                           |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 15 | Q.<br>And Genever New York and Genever BVI      |\n| 16 | were represented by the Hodgson Russ firm up    |\n| 17 | until a few weeks ago; is that right?           |\n| 18 | A.<br>That's correct.                           |\n| 19 | Q.<br>And now they are represented by           |\n| 20 | Mr. Mitchell's firm; is that correct?           |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Who was paying Genever New York and       |\n| 23 | Genever BVI's legal fees to Hodgson Russ?       |\n| 24 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 25 | the question.                                   |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 93 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Who is paying Genever BVI and             |\n| 4  | Genever New York's legal fees to Mr. Mitchell's |\n| 5  | firm?                                           |\n| 6  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>I'm going to instruct          |\n| 7  | him not to answer, privilege.                   |\n| 8  | MR. MOSS:<br>Who pays the bills is              |\n| 9  | privileged?                                     |\n| 10 | DI<br>MR. MITCHELL:<br>Potentially.<br>I'm      |\n| 11 | asserting privilege.<br>You can make the        |\n| 12 | argument it's not.                              |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Are you going to follow your              |\n| 14 | counsel's instruction?                          |\n| 15 | A.<br>I will follow my counsel's                |\n| 16 | instruction.                                    |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Do you know whether Mr. Kwok is           |\n| 18 | paying Genever BVI and Genever New York's legal |\n| 19 | fees in connection with this lawsuit?           |\n| 20 | A.<br>He's not.                                 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>But you don't know who is?                |\n| 22 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Mr. Kwok and Genever New York sued        |\n| 24 | The Sherry-Netherland Hotel a few years ago in  |\n| 25 | a dispute relating to maintenance of his        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 94 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                  |\n|----|--------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | terrace.                                   |\n|    |                                            |\n| 3  | Does that sound familiar?                  |\n| 4  | A.<br>Yes.                                 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>And Mr. Kwok and Genever New York    |\n| 6  | were represented by the same law firm --   |\n| 7  | A.<br>Yes.                                 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>-- in that lawsuit?                  |\n| 9  | Who paid that law firm's legal fees?       |\n| 10 | A.<br>I don't know.                        |\n| 11 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Just for                  |\n| 12 | clarification of the record, do you have   |\n| 13 | the name of the firm?<br>Just because it's |\n| 14 | not my firm, I don't believe it was        |\n| 15 | Hodgson Russ, I just want to make sure --  |\n| 16 | when you say the same firm, you mean they  |\n| 17 | both had the same attorney, not that it    |\n| 18 | was one of either of our firms, correct?   |\n| 19 | MR. MOSS:<br>Correct.                      |\n| 20 | Q.<br>So I don't know -- do you know the   |\n| 21 | name of the firm?                          |\n| 22 | A.<br>That represented Genever and         |\n| 23 | Mr. Kwok in the prior lawsuit against The  |\n| 24 | Sherry?                                    |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Yes.                                 |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 95 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I think it was Stone Magnanini.          |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Do you know who was paying Stone         |\n| 4  | Magnanini's legal fees for Genever New York?   |\n| 5  | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Do you know whether or not Stone         |\n| 7  | Magnanini was paid legal fees from one person  |\n| 8  | or entity or from two people or entities in    |\n| 9  | connection with that lawsuit?                  |\n| 10 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form.           |\n| 11 | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 12 | Q.<br>In other words, did the same person      |\n| 13 | or entity pay the legal fees for both Mr. Kwok |\n| 14 | and Genever in The Sherry-Netherland lawsuit?  |\n| 15 | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Does the same person or entity pay       |\n| 17 | the legal fees for Mr. Kwok and both Genever   |\n| 18 | entities in this lawsuit?                      |\n| 19 | DI<br>MR. MITCHELL:<br>I instruct my client    |\n| 20 | not to answer.                                 |\n| 21 | MR. MOSS:<br>That's a yes-or-no                |\n| 22 | question.                                      |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Does the same person or entity pay       |\n| 24 | the legal fees for both Mr. Kwok and Genever   |\n| 25 | entities in this lawsuit?                      |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 96 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>That one, you can              |\n| 3  | answer.                                         |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI been the sole             |\n| 6  | shareholder of Genever New York for the         |\n| 7  | entirety of Genever New York's existence?       |\n| 8  | A.<br>No, that's not accurate.                  |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Why not?                                  |\n| 10 | A.<br>Genever New York is an LLC.<br>It has     |\n| 11 | members.<br>It doesn't have shareholders.       |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Has Genever BVI been the sole member      |\n| 13 | of Genever New York for the entirety of Genever |\n| 14 | New York's existence?                           |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Kwok control Genever BVI?        |\n| 17 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Who does?                                 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                                |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Kwok control Genever New         |\n| 21 | York?                                           |\n| 22 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Who does?                                 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                                |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Mr. Kwok does not control Genever         |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 97 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | BVI, even though he's the sole director and the |\n| 3  | sole shareholder?                               |\n| 4  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 5  | the question, asked and answered.               |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Does Zhang Wei have any role with         |\n| 8  | respect to Genever New York?                    |\n| 9  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Does Zhang Wei own any of the             |\n| 11 | membership interests of Genever New York?       |\n| 12 | A.<br>That's not reflected from the             |\n| 13 | documents I reviewed in preparation for today.  |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Does Genever New York have any            |\n| 15 | directors?                                      |\n| 16 | A.<br>No, I don't think so.                     |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Has it ever had any directors?<br>\"It\"    |\n| 18 | being Genever New York?                         |\n| 19 | A.<br>I think it has just an authorized         |\n| 20 | person and its sole member.<br>Other than that, |\n| 21 | no.                                             |\n| 22 | Q.<br>The sole member is Genever BVI?           |\n| 23 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Who's the authorized person?              |\n| 25 | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                                |\n\n| 1  |                 | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|-----------------|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.              | Have there ever been any other                 |\n| 3  |                 | authorized persons for Genever New York other  |\n| 4  | than Guo Qiang? |                                                |\n| 5  |                 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 6  |                 | the question.                                  |\n| 7  | A.              | Other than the attorneys that were             |\n| 8  |                 | referenced in the resolutions in the formation |\n| 9  |                 | in the purchase of The Sherry, no.             |\n| 10 | Q.              | Does Genever New York have any                 |\n| 11 | offices?        |                                                |\n| 12 | A.              | No.                                            |\n| 13 | Q.              | Has it ever had any offices?                   |\n| 14 | A.              | No.                                            |\n| 15 | Q.              | Does Genever New York have any                 |\n| 16 | employees?      |                                                |\n| 17 | A.              | No.                                            |\n| 18 | Q.              | Has Genever New York ever had any              |\n| 19 | employees?      |                                                |\n| 20 | A.              | No.                                            |\n| 21 | Q.              | Does Genever New York have a phone             |\n| 22 | number?         |                                                |\n| 23 | A.              | I don't know.                                  |\n| 24 | Q.              | Since Genever New York does not have           |\n| 25 |                 | any directors, I assume it's never had a board |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 99 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                    |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | meeting; is that right?                      |\n| 3  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form.         |\n| 4  | A.<br>That was not reflected from the        |\n| 5  | documents that I reviewed for today's        |\n| 6  | preparation.                                 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Does Genever New York have any         |\n| 8  | address?                                     |\n| 9  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of       |\n| 10 | the question.                                |\n| 11 | A.<br>781 Fifth Avenue.                      |\n| 12 | Q.<br>And what is that?                      |\n| 13 | A.<br>That's The Sherry-Netherland.          |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Genever New York's -- strike that.     |\n| 15 | Is the 18th floor part of the                |\n| 16 | address?                                     |\n| 17 | A.<br>Yes.                                   |\n| 18 | Q.<br>So Genever New York's address is the   |\n| 19 | apartment that Mr. Kwok lives in on the 18th |\n| 20 | floor of The Sherry-Netherland?              |\n| 21 | A.<br>That's the mailing address for         |\n| 22 | Genever New York.                            |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Does it have any other addresses?      |\n| 24 | A.<br>Not that I'm aware of.<br>Actually,    |\n| 25 | there might be an address for its registered |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 100 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |  |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2  | agent for service of process in Albany, but     |  |\n| 3  | other than that, I'm not aware of any.          |  |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Other than the address for a              |  |\n| 5  | registered agent, Genever New York does not     |  |\n| 6  | have any addresses apart from The               |  |\n| 7  | Sherry-Netherland Hotel?                        |  |\n| 8  | A.<br>No, not that I'm aware of.                |  |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Does Genever New York possess any         |  |\n| 10 | documents?                                      |  |\n| 11 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |  |\n| 12 | the question.                                   |  |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |  |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Where are they maintained?                |  |\n| 15 | A.<br>I believe in The Sherry-Netherland,       |  |\n| 16 | but I'm not -- I don't know for sure.           |  |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Are any of the Genever New York's --      |  |\n| 18 | are any of Genever New York's documents         |  |\n| 19 | maintained in -- at the British Virgin Islands  |  |\n| 20 | address where Genever BVI's documents are held? |  |\n| 21 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |  |\n| 22 | the question.                                   |  |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |  |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Are Genever -- are any Genever BVI        |  |\n| 25 | documents maintained at The Sherry-Netherland?  |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 101 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 3  | Q.<br>What documents does Genever New York      |\n| 4  | possess?                                        |\n| 5  | A.<br>Its corporate formation documents,        |\n| 6  | its stock register, the mail it receives.       |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Are there any people who are              |\n| 8  | authorized to act on behalf of Genever New      |\n| 9  | York?                                           |\n| 10 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 11 | the question, asked and answered.               |\n| 12 | A.<br>You mean other than Mr. Kwok and his      |\n| 13 | son?                                            |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Well, so is Mr. Kwok authorized to        |\n| 15 | act on behalf of Genever New York?              |\n| 16 | A.<br>Mr. Kwok?<br>I don't know.                |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Is Guo Qiang authorized to act on         |\n| 18 | behalf of Genever New York?                     |\n| 19 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Who authorized him to do that?            |\n| 21 | A.<br>He was authorized by Genever BVI.         |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And did Mr. Kwok, as the sole             |\n| 23 | director and sole shareholder of Genever BVI,   |\n| 24 | authorize Genever BVI to authorize Guo Qiang to |\n| 25 | act on behalf of Genever New York?              |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 102 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 3  | the question.                                   |\n| 4  | A.<br>I would assume so.<br>I don't know for    |\n| 5  | certain, but I know that, in or around          |\n| 6  | May 2015, Guo Qiang was made an authorized      |\n| 7  | person for Genever New York.                    |\n| 8  | Q.<br>What assets does Genever New York         |\n| 9  | hold?                                           |\n| 10 | A.<br>It owns the shares in The                 |\n| 11 | Sherry-Netherland Corporation and it has a bank |\n| 12 | account with JPMorgan Chase.                    |\n| 13 | Q.<br>And that's the bank account that's        |\n| 14 | funded by Golden Spring New York whose purpose  |\n| 15 | is to hold the money to pay the maintenance     |\n| 16 | fees for The Sherry-Netherland?                 |\n| 17 | A.<br>The bank account's purpose, I don't       |\n| 18 | know if it's to hold the money, but it is --    |\n| 19 | the bank account is used to pay the maintenance |\n| 20 | for Genever New York.                           |\n| 21 | Q.<br>And you can't identify any other          |\n| 22 | payments that have come out of the bank         |\n| 23 | account, other than to pay the maintenance for  |\n| 24 | The Sherry-Netherland Hotel?                    |\n| 25 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 103 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n|    |                                                 |\n| 2  | Q.<br>Has Genever New York ever held any        |\n| 3  | other assets -- by the way, strike that.        |\n| 4  | What's the most money that's ever               |\n| 5  | been in that JPMorgan account, that Chase       |\n| 6  | account for Genever New York?                   |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 8  | the question.                                   |\n| 9  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Any sense?                                |\n| 11 | A.<br>Not really, no.                           |\n| 12 | Q.<br>More than \\$3 million?                    |\n| 13 | A.<br>The monthly maintenance for The           |\n| 14 | Sherry is about 60,000.<br>So, you know, enough |\n| 15 | to cover that every month.                      |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Has Genever New York ever held any        |\n| 17 | other assets besides the Chase account and the  |\n| 18 | ownership in The Sherry-Netherland?             |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Has Genever New York ever sold any        |\n| 21 | assets?                                         |\n| 22 | A.<br>Not that I'm aware of.                    |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Are you aware of any acquisitions         |\n| 24 | other than the bank account and the shares of   |\n| 25 | The Sherry-Netherland?                          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 104 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>It's not reflected in the documents       |\n| 3  | I reviewed for today.                           |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Other than Justice Ostrager's order,      |\n| 5  | are any of -- is Genever New York encumbered in |\n| 6  | any way?                                        |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 8  | the question.                                   |\n| 9  | A.<br>There is a trust agreement between        |\n| 10 | Genever New York and Bravo Luck, Mr. Kwok and   |\n| 11 | Genever BVI, I believe, that involves The       |\n| 12 | Sherry-Netherland residence, but other than     |\n| 13 | that, and Justice Ostrager's order, I'm not     |\n| 14 | aware of any other encumbrances.                |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Are you aware of whether Genever New      |\n| 16 | York's assets have ever been encumbered in the  |\n| 17 | past other than the trust agreement and Justice |\n| 18 | Ostrager's order?                               |\n| 19 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 20 | the question.                                   |\n| 21 | A.<br>I would say the pledge agreements we      |\n| 22 | discussed earlier to Roscalitar 2 and Blue      |\n| 23 | Capital.<br>Other than that, I'm not aware of   |\n| 24 | any.                                            |\n| 25 | (Podhaskie Exhibit 9, Declaration of            |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 105 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Trust and Agreement, marked for                   |\n| 3  | identification.)                                  |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Mr. Podhaskie, you have been landed         |\n| 5  | Exhibit 9.                                        |\n| 6  | Is this the trust agreement that you              |\n| 7  | have been referring to relating to Bravo Luck     |\n| 8  | and the Genever entities?                         |\n| 9  | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>Yes, this             |\n| 10 | appears to be a copy of that trust agreement.     |\n| 11 | Q.<br>It's dated February 17, 2015.               |\n| 12 | Is that when it was entered into?                 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 14 | Q.<br>If you look at the bottom on the            |\n| 15 | left-hand side, do you know whose signature       |\n| 16 | that is?<br>I'm sorry.<br>The bottom of the first |\n| 17 | page, 543.                                        |\n| 18 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Whose is it?                                |\n| 20 | A.<br>Guo Qiang.                                  |\n| 21 | Q.<br>How about on the right-hand side,           |\n| 22 | whose signature is that?                          |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't know for certain, but it            |\n| 24 | looks like Mr. Kwok's.                            |\n| 25 | Q.<br>And on page 544, is it same thing,          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 106 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                    |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Guo Qiang's signature is on the left and     |\n| 3  | Mr. Kwok's is on the right?                  |\n| 4  | A.<br>It appears so, yes.                    |\n| 5  | Q.<br>And on page 545, is Guo Qiang's the    |\n| 6  | first signature and Mr. Kwok's are the next  |\n| 7  | three?                                       |\n| 8  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of       |\n| 9  | the question.                                |\n| 10 | A.<br>You mean the three below the other     |\n| 11 | three signatures besides Guo Qiang's?        |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Yes.                                   |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes, it appears so.                    |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Guo Qiang signed on behalf of Bravo    |\n| 15 | Luck Limited; is that right?                 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                   |\n| 17 | Q.<br>And Mr. Kwok signed on behalf of       |\n| 18 | Genever New York, Genever BVI and Mr. Kwok,  |\n| 19 | himself, right?                              |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                   |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Do you know whether or not             |\n| 22 | counsel -- there was any counsel who         |\n| 23 | represented any of the parties in connection |\n| 24 | with this agreement?                         |\n| 25 | A.<br>I don't know.                          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 107 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Do you know where this agreement was     |\n| 3  | maintained?                                    |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 5  | Q.<br>So I want to direct your attention       |\n| 6  | down in the background section.                |\n| 7  | Number 2 -- first of all, do you see           |\n| 8  | at the top, when it defines the parties, the   |\n| 9  | BVI company is Genever Holdings Corporation?   |\n| 10 | A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 11 | Q.<br>That's the company we have been          |\n| 12 | referring to as Genever BVI, right?            |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes, I believe so.                       |\n| 14 | Q.<br>And the company, Genever Holdings        |\n| 15 | LLC, which you and I have been referring to as |\n| 16 | Genever New York, is referred to in this       |\n| 17 | document as the US SPV; is that right?         |\n| 18 | A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n| 19 | Q.<br>And SPV stands for special purpose       |\n| 20 | vehicle; is that right?                        |\n| 21 | A.<br>I believe so, yes.                       |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And if you look in the background,       |\n| 23 | number 2, it says, \"The purpose of the BVI     |\n| 24 | company,\" which is Genever BVI, \"is a special  |\n| 25 | purpose vehicle holding the US SPV.\"           |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 108 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Do you see that?                                |\n| 3  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 4  | Q.<br>And the US SPV is Genever New York,       |\n| 5  | right?                                          |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 7  | Q.<br>So according to this document, the        |\n| 8  | purpose of Genever BVI is to hold Genever New   |\n| 9  | York, right?                                    |\n| 10 | A.<br>That's what this says, yes.               |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Is that accurate?                         |\n| 12 | A.<br>That's one of the purposes, as I          |\n| 13 | understand it, yes.                             |\n| 14 | Q.<br>And in number 3, \"The purpose of the      |\n| 15 | US SPV,\" that's Genever New York, right?        |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 17 | Q.<br>So \"The purpose of Genever New York       |\n| 18 | is a special purpose vehicle holding a property |\n| 19 | situated at,\" and then it has several units on  |\n| 20 | the 18th floor at The Sherry-Netherland.\"       |\n| 21 | Is that right?                                  |\n| 22 | A.<br>That's what it says, yes.                 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>So the purpose of Genever New York        |\n| 24 | is to be a special purpose vehicle to hold the  |\n| 25 | 18th floor residence, right?                    |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 109 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                         |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>That's one of the purposes, yes.            |\n| 3  | Q.<br>The document doesn't say it's one of        |\n| 4  | the purposes.<br>It says it's the purpose, right? |\n| 5  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form.              |\n| 6  | A.<br>The document says that the US SPV is        |\n| 7  | a special purpose vehicle holding a property      |\n| 8  | situated at, and it references the 18th floor     |\n| 9  | of The Sherry-Netherland.                         |\n| 10 | Q.<br>You said one of the purposes was to         |\n| 11 | hold the apartment, and I'm just saying the       |\n| 12 | document says the purpose of the US SPV, right?   |\n| 13 | Not one of the purposes.                          |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 15 | Q.<br>And it says the purpose of the BVI          |\n| 16 | Company is to hold Genever New York, not one of   |\n| 17 | the purposes, right?                              |\n| 18 | A.<br>Right.<br>But it's one of the               |\n| 19 | purposes.                                         |\n| 20 | Q.<br>And it says, in number 4, that \"For         |\n| 21 | the avoidance of doubt, the trustee is holding    |\n| 22 | the BVI Company and the US SPV,\" those are the    |\n| 23 | two Genever entities, right?                      |\n| 24 | A.<br>Yes.                                        |\n| 25 | Q.<br>\"The trustee is holding the Genever         |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 110 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | entities in trust for the owner.\"               |\n| 3  | And the owner is Bravo Luck; is that            |\n| 4  | correct?                                        |\n| 5  | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 6  | Q.<br>And it says that the owner, which is      |\n| 7  | Bravo Luck, is a beneficial owner of New        |\n| 8  | York -- Genever New York and Genever BVI,\"      |\n| 9  | right?                                          |\n| 10 | A.<br>That's what it says, yes.                 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Is that consistent with Genever's         |\n| 12 | understanding?                                  |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Did Genever New York or Mr. Kwok          |\n| 15 | ever disclose to The Sherry-Netherland, when it |\n| 16 | was applying for the lease, that Bravo Luck was |\n| 17 | going to be the beneficial owner of the Genever |\n| 18 | entities?                                       |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 20 | Q.<br>You think The Sherry-Netherland           |\n| 21 | would have wanted to know who the beneficial    |\n| 22 | owner of the apartment was going to be?         |\n| 23 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 24 | the question, calls for speculation.            |\n| 25 | Q.<br>You can answer.                           |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 111 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I don't know what The                     |\n| 3  | Sherry-Netherland would have wanted to know,    |\n| 4  | but I know that they knew the money came from   |\n| 5  | Bravo Luck.                                     |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Did you, in the course of your            |\n| 7  | review of documents to prepare for this         |\n| 8  | deposition, did you see any document evidencing |\n| 9  | that The Sherry-Netherland knew that Bravo Luck |\n| 10 | was going to be the beneficial owner of the     |\n| 11 | apartment?                                      |\n| 12 | A.<br>I didn't see anything in my               |\n| 13 | preparation for today.                          |\n| 14 | Q.<br>See there are covenants by the            |\n| 15 | trustee in Section 3?<br>See those covenants?   |\n| 16 | A.<br>Are we still on page 1?                   |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Sorry.<br>Section 3, \"The trustee         |\n| 18 | further covenants with the owner.\"              |\n| 19 | Do you see that?                                |\n| 20 | A.<br>Oh.<br>Yes, yes, yes.                     |\n| 21 | Q.<br>And you see on the first page that        |\n| 22 | the trustee is Mr. Kwok?                        |\n| 23 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 24 | Q.<br>So take a look at 3.4, \"The trustee       |\n| 25 | covenants that it will not create or allow to   |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 112 of 140\n\n| 1<br>PODHASKIE                                        |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2<br>be created any charge, mortgage or lien on the   |\n| 3<br>BVI company, the US SPV and/or assets held by    |\n| 4<br>the BVI company and/or the US SPV unless with    |\n| 5<br>the prior written approval of the owner and the  |\n| 6<br>co-owners.\"                                      |\n| 7<br>Do you see that?                                 |\n| 8<br>A.<br>Yes.                                       |\n| 9<br>Q.<br>The pledges to Blue Capital and            |\n| 10<br>Roscalitar 2 would require prior written        |\n| 11<br>approval of the owner and the co-owners under   |\n| 12<br>this agreement; is that right?                  |\n| 13<br>A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 14<br>Q.<br>And the owner is Bravo Luck?              |\n| 15<br>A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 16<br>Q.<br>And who are the co-owners?<br>The         |\n| 17<br>co-owners, if you look at background, page 1,   |\n| 18<br>543, Section 6, \"The owner made known to the    |\n| 19<br>trustee that certain parties\" -- \"third parties |\n| 20<br>may co-own the property through the owner in    |\n| 21<br>accordance with the co-operation plan and the   |\n| 22<br>trustee is also acting as a trustee for those   |\n| 23<br>third parties.\"                                 |\n| 24<br>Do you know who those co-owner third            |\n| 25<br>parties are?                                    |\n|                                                       |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 113 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Did --                                    |\n| 4  | A.<br>I'm sorry.<br>I don't know who the        |\n| 5  | co-owners are.<br>The owner is defined as Bravo |\n| 6  | Luck.                                           |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Yes.<br>Did Mr. Kwok, the trustee, get    |\n| 8  | prior written approval of the owner, Bravo      |\n| 9  | Luck, or any of the co-owners before pledging   |\n| 10 | the shares of Genever BVI to either Roscalitar  |\n| 11 | 2 or Blue Capital?                              |\n| 12 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 13 | the question.                                   |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't know.                             |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Have you seen any documents               |\n| 16 | suggesting that such written approval was       |\n| 17 | obtained?                                       |\n| 18 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n| 19 | the question.                                   |\n| 20 | A.<br>I didn't see any in my preparation        |\n| 21 | for today.                                      |\n| 22 | Q.<br>As of early 2015, when Mr. Kwok was       |\n| 23 | applying to The Sherry-Netherland board, who    |\n| 24 | owned Bravo Luck?                               |\n| 25 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 114 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | the question.                                  |\n| 3  | A.<br>I think, as of January 2015, Bravo       |\n| 4  | Luck was owned by Guo Qiang.                   |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Isn't it true that Mr. Kwok,             |\n| 6  | himself, was also a 50 percent owner of Bravo  |\n| 7  | Luck?                                          |\n| 8  | A.<br>I think Guo Qiang transferred            |\n| 9  | 50 percent of the ownership in Bravo Luck to   |\n| 10 | his father around that time.                   |\n| 11 | Q.<br>By the way, what business is Guo         |\n| 12 | Qiang in?                                      |\n| 13 | A.<br>Finance.                                 |\n| 14 | (Podhaskie Exhibit 10, Letter from             |\n| 15 | Stevenson Wong dated March 4, 2015, marked     |\n| 16 | for identification.)                           |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Mr. Podhaskie, you have been handed      |\n| 18 | Exhibit 10, which is a letter from Stevenson   |\n| 19 | Wong dated March 4, 2015, to the board of      |\n| 20 | directors of The Sherry-Netherland, regarding  |\n| 21 | the application of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan to become a |\n| 22 | shareholder of The Sherry-Netherland, Inc.,    |\n| 23 | Bravo Luck Limited, the company.               |\n| 24 | Do you see that?                               |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.                                     |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 115 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Was Stevenson Wong representing          |\n| 3  | Mr. Kwok in connection with his application to |\n| 4  | become a shareholder of The Sherry-Netherland? |\n| 5  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 6  | the question.                                  |\n| 7  | And, additionally, this is outside             |\n| 8  | of the scope of the 30(b)(6) notice.<br>If     |\n| 9  | he has knowledge, I will allow him to          |\n| 10 | answer, but note my objection for the          |\n| 11 | record.                                        |\n| 12 | MR. MOSS:<br>Well, Genever New York            |\n| 13 | was a --                                       |\n| 14 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>If you're asking              |\n| 15 | about Genever New York.<br>You asked           |\n| 16 | specifically about Mr. Kwok, who his           |\n| 17 | attorney was.                                  |\n| 18 | MR. MOSS:<br>Sure.<br>But Mr. Kwok was         |\n| 19 | buying this on behalf of an entity,            |\n| 20 | Genever New York.                              |\n| 21 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Are you asking about          |\n| 22 | the entity?                                    |\n| 23 | BY MR. MOSS:                                   |\n| 24 | Q.<br>I'm asking, what was Stevenson           |\n| 25 | Wong's role -- who was Stevenson Wong          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 116 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | representing in connection with The             |\n| 3  | Sherry-Netherland application?                  |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't know.<br>Based on this letter,    |\n| 5  | it appears they were representing Mr. Kwok or   |\n| 6  | his family, but I don't know.                   |\n| 7  | Q.<br>If you look at page -- the second         |\n| 8  | page, SN74, Stevenson Wong writes, \"We confirm  |\n| 9  | that, A, the company,\" which is defined on the  |\n| 10 | previous page as Bravo Luck, \"is legally and    |\n| 11 | beneficially owned as to 50 percent by Mr. Kwok |\n| 12 | Ho Wan and 50 percent by Mr. Guo Qiang,         |\n| 13 | respectively.\"                                  |\n| 14 | Do you see that?                                |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.                                      |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Is it correct that, as of March 4,        |\n| 17 | 2015, Mr. Kwok owned 50 percent of Bravo Luck?  |\n| 18 | A.<br>That is what this letter reflects.        |\n| 19 | I was not prepared to talk about the ownership  |\n| 20 | of Bravo Luck today.                            |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Do you have any reason to believe         |\n| 22 | that this document is inaccurate?               |\n| 23 | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Do you know whether or not Bravo          |\n| 25 | Luck -- do you know whether or not Mr. Kwok's   |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 117 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | ownership interest in Bravo Luck has increased |\n| 3  | or decreased or stayed the same since March 4, |\n| 4  | 2015?                                          |\n| 5  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 6  | the question.<br>Again, I think this is        |\n| 7  | outside the scope.<br>I will allow him to      |\n| 8  | answer if he has the knowledge, but            |\n| 9  | A.<br>I understand that Guo Qiang is           |\n| 10 | currently the 100 percent owner of Bravo Luck. |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Do you understand how it came to be      |\n| 12 | that Mr. Kwok lost his 50 percent?             |\n| 13 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Same objection.               |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Do you know when that happened?          |\n| 16 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Same objection.               |\n| 17 | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Have you seen any documents relating     |\n| 19 | to that transfer?                              |\n| 20 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Same objection.               |\n| 21 | A.<br>Not in my preparation for today's        |\n| 22 | deposition.                                    |\n| 23 | MR. MOSS:<br>Why don't we take a break         |\n| 24 | now?<br>Let's go off the record.               |\n| 25 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are now off            |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 118 of 140\n\n**116**\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 the record. The time is 5:27 p.m. 3 (Recess taken.) 4 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now back 5 on the record. The time is 5:36 p.m. 6 BY MR. MOSS: 7 Q. Mr. Podhaskie, you've answered a lot 8 of questions today saying yes or no based on 9 the documents I had access to in my review. 10 Did you have access to Genever New 11 York and Genever BVI's full set of files? 12 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 13 the question. 14 I don't know that that's exactly 15 what he said, but I know you're 16 paraphrasing, but... 17 MR. MOSS: Okay. 18 A. Whatever they had, I reviewed, so. 19 Q. Did you ever ask to see any 20 documents that weren't provided to you? 21 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 22 the question. 23 A. No. 24 Q. Do you have any reason to believe 25 that there were documents missing from your**\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 119 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                        |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | review?                                          |\n| 3  | A.<br>I don't know.<br>There's no reason for     |\n| 4  | me to think anything was missing, I don't know.  |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Did you say any document referencing       |\n| 6  | the fact that Guo Qiang has control of Genever   |\n| 7  | BVI?                                             |\n| 8  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of           |\n| 9  | the question.                                    |\n| 10 | A.<br>There's a document that indicates          |\n| 11 | he's the president of Genever BVI.<br>Other than |\n| 12 | that, no.                                        |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Do you know whether or not that            |\n| 14 | document was produced to us in this litigation?  |\n| 15 | A.<br>I don't know.<br>I believe it was, but     |\n| 16 | I don't know.                                    |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Did you ever see any document              |\n| 18 | providing that Genever BVI authorized Guo Qiang  |\n| 19 | to act on behalf of Genever New York?            |\n| 20 | A.<br>There was a document that Guo Qiang        |\n| 21 | became the authorized person of Genever New      |\n| 22 | York.<br>I don't recall who executed it or what, |\n| 23 | but I remember seeing a document that indicated  |\n| 24 | he was the authorized person, and Guo Qiang, he  |\n| 25 | signed an application for an EIN for Genever     |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 120 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | New York.                                      |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Have you ever seen any document or       |\n| 4  | did you see any document in the course of your |\n| 5  | review providing that Yvette Wang had any role |\n| 6  | with Genever BVI or Genever New York?          |\n| 7  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 8  | the question.                                  |\n| 9  | A.<br>I know that she signed an affidavit      |\n| 10 | in connection with the litigation that made    |\n| 11 | statements about Genever and The               |\n| 12 | Sherry-Netherland.<br>Other than that, I don't |\n| 13 | recall.                                        |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Do you know where she obtained the       |\n| 15 | information she put in her affidavit relating  |\n| 16 | to Genever and The Sherry-Netherland?          |\n| 17 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Object to the form of         |\n| 18 | the question, and I think this is outside      |\n| 19 | the scope of the 30(b)(6).                     |\n| 20 | If he has the knowledge, I'm glad to           |\n| 21 | let him answer.                                |\n| 22 | MR. MOSS:<br>Okay.                             |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't know.                            |\n| 24 | MR. MOSS:<br>Nothing further at this           |\n| 25 | time.<br>Thank you, Mr. Podhaskie.             |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 121 of 140\n\n**119**\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 MR. MITCHELL: Just before you start 3 going off the record, I just have a couple 4 questions for Mr. Podhaskie, just to 5 clarify the record. 6 MR. MOSS: Sure. 7 EXAMINATION BY 8 MR. MITCHELL: 9 Q. Mr. Podhaskie, you were provided 10 with a number of exhibits today. One of those 11 exhibits was Podhaskie 3 -- Exhibit 3, rather. 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. If you'll note, these were 14 identified, when questions were asked, by Bates 15 stamps number, Kwok, and then a number. 16 Do you see that? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. Looking now at Podhaskie -- is it 19 your understanding that these documents were 20 produced by Mr. Kwok's attorney in relation to 21 this litigation? 22 MR. MOSS: Objection, leading. 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Looking at Exhibit Podhaskie 4, do 25 you see any such Bates stamps?**\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 122 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>No.                                       |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Prior to today, do you have any           |\n| 4  | recollection of seeing this document?           |\n| 5  | MR. MOSS:<br>What document?                     |\n| 6  | MR. MITCHELL:<br>Exhibit 4 that we're           |\n| 7  | talking about.                                  |\n| 8  | MR. MOSS:<br>Okay.                              |\n| 9  | A.<br>I think I may have seen it as one of      |\n| 10 | the documents that was filed in connection with |\n| 11 | the litigation, but other than that, no.        |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Have you seen -- in your review of        |\n| 13 | the documents, Genever BVI and Genever New York |\n| 14 | as they have been referred to here today, in    |\n| 15 | reviewing in preparation for this deposition,   |\n| 16 | did you see those documents within their        |\n| 17 | records?                                        |\n| 18 | MR. MOSS:<br>Objection to the form.             |\n| 19 | A.<br>Did I see Exhibit 4?                      |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Exhibit 4, correct.                       |\n| 21 | MR. MOSS:<br>I don't know what \"those           |\n| 22 | documents\" mean.                                |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Exhibit 4, this set of pages that is      |\n| 24 | Exhibit 4.                                      |\n| 25 | A.<br>So did I see Exhibit 4 in connection      |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 123 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                       |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | with the documents I reviewed in connection for |\n| 3  | today's deposition?                             |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Correct.                                  |\n| 5  | A.<br>I saw it in connection with -- if I       |\n| 6  | recall, I saw it in connection with the filings |\n| 7  | that were made in the New York litigation.      |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Was it contained within the records       |\n| 9  | that you reviewed in preparation for today?     |\n| 10 | A.<br>The records maintained by Genever         |\n| 11 | New York?                                       |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Correct.                                  |\n| 13 | A.<br>And Genever BVI?<br>I don't think so.     |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Exhibit 5, do you see a Bates stamp       |\n| 15 | on that document?                               |\n| 16 | A.<br>(Document review.)<br>No.                 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Now, this document appears to have        |\n| 18 | been filed in the litigation or in a            |\n| 19 | litigation, anyway.<br>I believe that's the     |\n| 20 | docket number in this case.                     |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes, it appears so.                       |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Do you recall seeing this document        |\n| 23 | before today?                                   |\n| 24 | A.<br>Again, I think I may have seen this       |\n| 25 | when I reviewed the litigation file as          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 124 of 140\n\n| 1  |                   | PODHASKIE                                      |\n|----|-------------------|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  |                   | something that was filed in the litigation.    |\n| 3  | Q.                | Do you recall seeing this document             |\n| 4  |                   | within the books and records maintained by     |\n| 5  | Genever New York? |                                                |\n| 6  | A.                | I don't recall, no.                            |\n| 7  | Q.                | How about Genever BVI?                         |\n| 8  | A.                | I don't recall.                                |\n| 9  | Q.                | Exhibit 6, which is the memorandum?            |\n| 10 | A.                | Yes.                                           |\n| 11 | Q.                | Do you see any Bates stamps on                 |\n| 12 | there?            |                                                |\n| 13 | A.                | (Document review.)<br>No.                      |\n| 14 | Q.                | But there is a docket filing number,           |\n| 15 | correct?          |                                                |\n| 16 | A.                | Yes.                                           |\n| 17 | Q.                | Do you recall seeing this document             |\n| 18 |                   | in the books and records maintained by Genever |\n| 19 | New York?         |                                                |\n| 20 | A.                | Exhibit 6?                                     |\n| 21 | Q.                | Correct.                                       |\n| 22 | A.                | No.                                            |\n| 23 | Q.                | Genever BVI?                                   |\n| 24 | A.                | No.                                            |\n| 25 | Q.                | Exhibit 7, do you see a Bates stamp            |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 125 of 140\n\n**123**\n\n **1 PODHASKIE 2 number on this document, when you find it? 3 A. (Document review.) No. 4 Q. Do you know -- up top, do you see 5 that it was filed in this proceeding in the 6 eCourt's filing system? 7 A. By \"the proceeding,\" you're 8 referring to the litigation? 9 Q. Correct. 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. In your review of Genever New York's 12 books and records, do you recall seeing this 13 document? 14 A. I don't recall. 15 Q. In your review of Genever BVI's 16 books and records, do you recall seeing this 17 document? 18 A. I don't recall. 19 Q. Exhibit 8, do you see a Bates stamp 20 number on here? 21 A. No. 22 Q. And Exhibit 8, at the top, do you 23 see -- would you agree that it was filed in New 24 York County Clerk in this litigation? 25 MR. MOSS: Objection, leading.**\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 126 of 140\n\n| 1  | PODHASKIE                                     |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Yes.                                    |\n| 3  | Q.<br>And prior to today, do you recall       |\n| 4  | seeing this document?                         |\n| 5  | A.<br>I think I would have seen it in         |\n| 6  | connection with my review of the litigation   |\n| 7  | file.                                         |\n| 8  | Q.<br>In your review of the Genever New       |\n| 9  | York books and records, do you recall seeing  |\n| 10 | this document?                                |\n| 11 | A.<br>I don't recall.                         |\n| 12 | Q.<br>And in your review of the books and     |\n| 13 | records for Genever BVI, do you recall seeing |\n| 14 | this document?                                |\n| 15 | A.<br>I don't recall.                         |\n| 16 | MR. MITCHELL:<br>No further questions.        |\n| 17 | MR. MOSS:<br>No questions.                    |\n| 18 | MR. SARNOFF:<br>Thank you.                    |\n| 19 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>This concludes           |\n| 20 | today's deposition.<br>We are now going off   |\n| 21 | the record.<br>The time is 5:46 p.m.<br>Thank |\n| 22 | you.                                          |\n| 23 | (Time noted:<br>5:46 p.m.)                    |\n| 24 |                                               |\n| 25 |                                               |\n|    |                                               |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 127 of 140\n\n| 1  | A C K N O W L E D G M E N T                     |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  |                                                 |\n| 3  | STATE OF<br>)                                   |\n| 4  | :ss                                             |\n| 5  | COUNTY OF<br>)                                  |\n| 6  |                                                 |\n| 7  | I, DANIEL PODHASKIE, hereby certify             |\n| 8  | that I have read the transcript of my testimony |\n| 9  | taken under oath in my deposition; that the     |\n| 10 | transcript is a true, complete and correct      |\n| 11 | record of my testimony, and that the answers on |\n| 12 | the record as given by me are true and correct. |\n| 13 |                                                 |\n| 14 |                                                 |\n| 15 |                                                 |\n| 16 | ________________________                        |\n| 17 | DANIEL PODHASKIE                                |\n| 18 |                                                 |\n| 19 |                                                 |\n| 20 | Signed and subscribed to before me              |\n| 21 | this _______ day of ______________, ____.       |\n| 22 |                                                 |\n| 23 |                                                 |\n| 24 | ________________________________________        |\n| 25 | Notary Public, State of ___________             |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 128 of 140\n\n**126**\n\n **1 C E R T I F I C A T E 2 3 STATE OF NEW YORK ) 4 :ss 5 COUNTY OF RICHMOND) 6 7 I, MELISSA GILMORE, a Notary Public 8 within and for the State of New York, do hereby 9 certify: 10 That DANIEL PODHASKIE, the witness 11 whose deposition is hereinbefore set forth, was 12 duly sworn by me and that such deposition is a 13 true record of the testimony given by such 14 witness. 15 I further certify that I am not 16 related to any of the parties to this action by 17 blood or marriage; and that I am in no way 18 interested in the outcome of this matter. 19 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto 20 set my hand this 16th day of December, 2019. 21 22 23 24 \\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_ 25 MELISSA GILMORE**\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 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VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 130 of 140\n\n|                                   | additionally (1)       | answered (12)            | assets (29)                             | back (5)                                |\n|-----------------------------------|------------------------|--------------------------|-----------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------|\n| \\$                                | 113:7                  | 18:13;19:5;47:18;        | 14:14;25:10;47:4,                       | 43:11,15;75:3;80:6;                     |\n|                                   | address (22)           | 60:24;62:3,7,8;63:5;     | 15,19;48:9,13,15,16,                    | 116:4                                   |\n| \\$3 (1)                           | 16:19;34:24;35:7,8,    | 86:20;95:5;99:11;        | 18,20;49:6;50:11,19;                    | background (3)                          |\n| 101:12                            | 16,16,21,23;36:3,6,    | 116:7                    | 51:9;59:5,16;61:4,15,                   | 105:6,22;110:17                         |\n|                                   | 14,25;39:24;40:6,6; 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          | 20:2,20;29:6;44:19;                     | 37:13,25;72:3;                          |\n| 89:6,19,22;90:4,7;                | against (2)            | 29:15;30:12;45:4;        | 58:15,17;80:8;84:23;                    | 117:21                                  |\n| 100:12,13,19,23;<br>101:5,6,17,24 | 49:17;92:23            | 55:9;57:4;65:24;         | 105:5                                   | become (5)                              |\n| account's (1)                     | age (1)                | 66:10;69:8;103:10;       | attorney (5)                            | 37:9;65:6;72:5;                         |\n| 100:17                            | 71:24                  | 104:4,13;114:5;          | 11:22;82:3;92:17;                       | 112:21;113:4                            |\n| accurate (19)                     | agent (9)              | 121:17,21                | 113:17;119:20                           | beginning (2)                           |\n| 9:12;18:17;21:12;                 | 27:22;28:5;33:12;      | application (5)          | Attorneys (3)                           | 22:9;75:2                               |\n| 23:15,18;29:18,21;                | 35:9,17;36:13,23;      | 15:14;112:21;            | 3:4;6:4;96:7                            | behalf (21)                             |\n| 44:18;45:12;46:12;                | 98:2,5                 | 113:3;114:3;117:25       | authentic (5)                           | 8:24;11:8;15:15;                        |\n| 51:6;60:18;66:9;                  | ago (3)                | applying (2)             | 23:14;29:18;45:12;                      | 40:15;41:16,23;42:8;                    |\n| 73:24;74:8,14;83:23;              | 85:22;90:17;91:24      | 108:16;111:23            | 57:8;69:16                              | 45:21;52:2;58:11;                       |\n| 94:8;106:11                       | agree (1)              | appointed (5)            | authority (1)                           | 70:19;71:2,3;99:8,15,                   |\n| acquired (1)                      | 123:23                 | 38:4,16;40:24;41:6;      | 46:5                                    | 18,25;104:14,17;                        |\n| 47:23                             | AGREED (3)             | 43:22                    | Authorization (3)                       | 113:19;117:19                           |\n| acquisitions (1)                  | 6:4,9,13               | appointing (1)           | 20:21,25;21:8                           | below (1)                               |\n| 101:23                            | agreement (14)         | 39:23                    | authorize (2)                           | 104:10                                  |\n| Act (13)                          | 26:20;73:17;82:10,     | appoints (1)             | 99:24,24                                | beneficial (4)                          |\n| 23:4;29:10;40:15,                 | 17,24;86:17;102:9,     | 40:22                    | authorized (21)                         | 108:7,17,21;109:10                      |\n| 22,24;41:7,9;61:20;               | 17;103:2,6,10;         | approach (1)             | 6:15;40:15;41:9;                        | beneficially (1)                        |\n| 99:8,15,17,25;117:19              | 104:24;105:2;110:12    | 70:20                    | 45:20,21,25;46:2;                       | 114:11                                  |\n| acted (1)                         | agreements (2)         | approaching (1)          | 82:7,9;95:19,24;96:3;                   | beside (1)                              |\n| 33:12                             | 26:24;102:21<br>al (1) | 72:4<br>approval (4)     | 99:8,14,17,20,21;<br>100:6;117:18,21,24 | 78:19<br>besides (8)                    |\n| acting (1)                        | 7:7                    | 110:5,11;111:8,16        | available (5)                           | 23:23;31:18;34:2;                       |\n| 110:22                            | Albany (1)             | argument (1)             | 60:5,17;61:21;65:2,                     | 36:12;38:24;83:15;                      |\n| actions (4)                       | 98:2                   | 91:12                    | 7                                       | 101:17;104:11                           |\n| 41:15,22;42:3;                    | Alliance (1)           | around (8)               | Avenue (2)                              | best (2)                                |\n| 80:24                             | 7:6                    | 53:7,11,16;70:3;         | 3:5;97:11                               | 13:23;64:15                             |\n| activity (2)                      | Alliance's (2)         | 83:10;85:20;100:5;       | avoidance (1)                           | bills (1)                               |\n| 52:17;53:16                       | 67:17;68:8             | 112:10                   | 107:21                                  | 91:8                                    |\n| Acts (2)                          | allow (5)              | Asia (1)                 | aware (18)                              | block (1)                               |\n| 23:4;46:3                         | 11:23;63:20;           | 7:6                      | 24:5;36:16;38:19,                       | 45:7                                    |\n| actual (1)                        | 109:25;113:9;115:7     | assert (1)               | 22,23;50:9;67:20;                       | Blue (14)                               |\n| 84:5                              | amount (1)             | 12:3                     | 70:17;72:8;90:13;                       | 26:22;53:23;54:2,5,                     |\n| Actually (1)                      | 30:18                  | asserting (1)            | 97:24;98:3,8;101:22,                    | 11,14,19;66:4;67:21;                    |\n| 97:24<br>add (1)                  | and/or (2)             | 91:11                    | 23;102:14,15,23                         | 69:12;73:10;102:22;                     |\n| 70:2                              | 110:3,4                | asset (10)               |                                         | 110:9;111:11                            |\n| added (2)                         | Andrea (2)             | 25:3,6,9;46:13,18,       | B                                       | board (8)                               |\n| 25:21;86:25                       | 45:15;80:19            | 22;47:8,11,24;48:3       |                                         | 39:2,12;52:16;                          |\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 131 of 140\n\n**DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019**\n\n| 53:15;72:4;96:25;<br>111:23;112:19           | 48:3,19,23;49:5;<br>50:11,13,23;51:3,4,     | 69:12;73:10;102:23;<br>110:9;111:11 | communicate (2)<br>13:2,8               | conversations (4)<br>16:10;26:2;27:3;  |\n|----------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|\n| books (10)                                   | 12,13,24;53:22;54:5,                        | case (4)                            | communicated (2)                        | 28:2                                   |\n| 35:22;36:7,10,14;                            | 25;55:10,21;56:5,14;                        | 19:22;49:25;75:7;                   | 42:16,19                                | co-operation (1)                       |\n| 122:4,18;123:12,16;                          | 57:13,23;59:5,6,17,                         | 121:20                              | Companies (3)                           | 110:21                                 |\n| 124:9,12                                     | 22;61:4,15,19,20,24;                        | cause (1)                           | 23:4;29:9;61:20                         | co-own (1)                             |\n| both (10)                                    | 62:10,12;63:2,7,10;                         | 82:9                                | Company (25)                            | 110:20                                 |\n| 13:19;14:7,9,11,15;                          | 64:2,4,7,11,16,22;                          | caution (3)                         | 7:16,19;22:7;24:8,                      | co-owner (1)                           |\n| 83:19;92:17;93:13,                           | 65:6;66:13;67:12,15;                        | 32:3;40:10;52:12                    | 10;32:10;36:4;40:22;                    | 110:24                                 |\n| 17,24                                        | 69:21;70:11,12,13,19,                       | cents (1)                           | 46:18,21;53:23;                         | co-owners (6)                          |\n| bottom (3)<br>21:14;103:14,16                | 20,22;71:2,6;72:14;<br>73:15;74:3;77:14,23; | 29:24<br>certain (4)                | 74:11;75:16,23;76:3;<br>105:9,11,14,24; | 110:6,11,16,17;<br>111:5,9             |\n| Bravo (26)                                   | 80:11,13,25;81:7,10,                        | 52:8;100:5;103:23;                  | 107:16,22;110:3,4;                      | copies (1)                             |\n| 28:7;32:9,13;73:18;                          | 18;83:8,18;84:10,18,                        | 110:19                              | 112:23;114:9                            | 74:18                                  |\n| 102:10;103:7;104:14;                         | 19;85:18,23;86:8;                           | certainly (3)                       | compilation (1)                         | copy (18)                              |\n| 108:3,7,16;109:5,9;                          | 90:11,15;91:3,18;                           | 11:23;63:21;65:12                   | 20:14                                   | 21:7;23:10,18;                         |\n| 110:14;111:5,8,24;                           | 94:5,12,16;95:2,22;                         | certainty (1)                       | complete (2)                            | 29:15,21;45:5;55:10,                   |\n| 112:3,6,9,23;114:10,                         | 98:24;99:21,23,24;                          | 80:4                                | 80:24;125:10                            | 17;57:4,8;64:8,12;                     |\n| 17,20,24;115:2,10                            | 102:11;104:18;105:9,                        | Certificate (7)                     | complicated (1)                         | 65:25;66:9;69:8,15,                    |\n| break (1)                                    | 12,23,24;106:8;                             | 23:5,11;29:16;                      | 48:14                                   | 16;103:10                              |\n| 115:23                                       | 107:15,22;108:8;                            | 39:21;55:3;65:15,25                 | concludes (1)                           | corporate (21)                         |\n| brief (4)                                    | 110:3,4;111:10;                             | certify (1)                         | 124:19                                  | 8:9;9:15;10:2;                         |\n| 15:3,4;60:6;63:11<br>briefly (1)             | 117:7,11,18;118:6;<br>120:13;121:13;122:7,  | 125:7<br>changed (2)                | conclusion (1)<br>68:23                 | 11:16;12:10,18;<br>13:18;14:2,8;19:21; |\n| 14:18                                        | 23;124:13                                   | 25:16;86:23                         | conducted (3)                           | 20:7,17;33:11;34:21;                   |\n| British (4)                                  | BVI's (19)                                  | charge (21)                         | 26:5,9;87:5                             | 35:5;39:19;41:20;                      |\n| 22:5;23:4;34:25;                             | 14:13;28:13;30:22;                          | 36:9;55:4,18,20;                    | confirm (1)                             | 53:16;77:24;78:15;                     |\n| 98:19                                        | 32:19;45:5;47:15;                           | 56:20,24;57:6,9;60:5,               | 114:8                                   | 99:5                                   |\n| broader (1)                                  | 48:9,15;50:19;54:14;                        | 16;64:3,25;65:16;                   | connection (18)                         | Corporation (23)                       |\n| 15:22                                        | 57:17;65:4;66:8,16;                         | 66:2,3;67:16;69:4,10,               | 12:8;16:14;19:12;                       | 8:24;9:8;22:4,5,6,                     |\n| brokers (1)                                  | 78:14;90:23;98:20;                          | 12,16;110:2                         | 40:25;49:20;66:5;                       | 17;23:6;29:11;30:7;                    |\n| 42:19                                        | 116:11;123:15                               | charges (1)                         | 91:19;93:9;104:23;                      | 31:9;44:22;76:8,12,                    |\n|                                              |                                             |                                     |                                         |                                        |\n| business (20)                                |                                             | 65:6                                | 113:3;114:2;118:10;                     | 14,17,21;77:9,12;                      |\n| 14:7;26:4,8;29:9;                            | C                                           | Chase (4)                           | 120:10,25;121:2,5,6;                    | 80:17,24,25;100:11;                    |\n| 34:21;35:4;42:7;46:6;                        |                                             | 88:8;100:12;101:5,                  | 124:6                                   | 105:9                                  |\n| 55:23;56:6,16;57:14;                         | called (7)                                  | 17                                  | Connolly (2)                            | corporations (2)                       |\n| 61:20;64:5;66:14;<br>69:22;86:22;87:4,8;     | 8:1;13:10,12;26:21,<br>22;50:20;53:23       | check (1)<br>27:20                  | 45:19;82:4<br>Consent (4)               | 84:4;85:4<br>correctly (1)             |\n| 112:11                                       | calling (1)                                 | China (4)                           | 44:22;45:5,22;                          | 22:8                                   |\n| buy (5)                                      | 65:22                                       | 31:22;88:19,21,25                   | 46:11                                   | counsel (4)                            |\n| 15:7,18;24:18;25:6;                          | calls (2)                                   | chose (1)                           | consider (2)                            | 7:20;74:20;104:22,                     |\n| 51:21                                        | 68:22;108:24                                | 25:13                               | 37:15;47:10                             | 22                                     |\n| buying (1)                                   | came (6)                                    | City (1)                            | considers (1)                           | counsel's (2)                          |\n| 113:19                                       | 28:4,7;53:4;89:15;                          | 46:7                                | 47:14                                   | 91:14,15                               |\n| BVI (203)                                    | 109:4;115:11                                | clarification (3)                   | consistent (3)                          | County (3)                             |\n| 8:24;9:4,7,20;10:5,                          | can (41)                                    | 13:4;43:10;92:12                    | 57:16;85:14;108:11                      | 7:9;123:24;125:5                       |\n| 12;11:9,17;13:19;                            | 10:14,15,23;11:13;                          | clarify (1)                         | contained (1)                           | couple (3)                             |\n| 14:7,9,12,15;16:22;<br>17:5;19:19;21:4;23:4, | 13:23;14:24;16:17;<br>18:3;19:2;20:23;21:9; | 119:5<br>clarity (1)                | 121:8<br>Cont'd (1)                     | 33:21,25;119:3<br>course (12)          |\n| 12,19,20,24;24:6;                            | 23:2,7;24:24;25:19;                         | 28:19                               | 3:1                                     | 29:3;33:6;55:22;                       |\n| 25:15;26:4,8,14,20,                          | 26:16,18;29:6,13;                           | clear (4)                           | contract (3)                            | 56:5,15;57:14;64:4,                    |\n| 24;27:4,7,14,15,17,                          | 34:5;41:19;42:3;                            | 43:17,21;48:17;                     | 26:16;50:2;87:11                        | 17;66:13;69:22;                        |\n| 23;28:8;29:9,16;30:8,                        | 44:19,24;46:10;                             | 73:5                                | contracts (3)                           | 109:6;118:4                            |\n| 21;31:2,6,12;32:15,                          | 48:14;55:8;56:13;                           | Clerk (1)                           | 26:15,25;87:11                          | court (6)                              |\n| 21;33:2,6,12,24;34:2,                        | 57:2;63:19,23;65:12,                        | 123:24                              | control (4)                             | 6:17;7:8,17,24;                        |\n| 8,16;35:4,8,10,15,18;                        | 20;66:22;69:7;77:24;                        | client (1)                          | 94:16,20,25;117:6                       | 60:11;63:12                            |\n| 36:14,17,20,24;37:3,<br>7,11;38:2,8,21;39:2, | 78:15;84:25;91:11;                          | 93:19<br>colleague (1)              | controlled (1)<br>52:23                 | covenants (4)<br>109:14,15,18,25       |\n| 12,15;40:15,24;41:7,                         | 94:2;108:25<br>capacity (2)                 | 31:21                               | controls (2)                            | cover (1)                              |\n| 10,16,23;42:9,16,22;                         | 43:24;46:24                                 | collection (2)                      | 52:25;54:10                             | 101:15                                 |\n| 43:4,8,19,22,24;44:5,                        | Capital (14)                                | 19:21;20:6                          | conversation (5)                        | covered (1)                            |\n| 10,15;45:21;46:14;<br>47:3,9,10,14,19,23;    | 26:22;53:23;54:2,5,<br>11,15,19;66:4;67:22; | commemorate (1)<br>52:17            | 12:17;13:25;15:25;<br>16:9,12           | 11:10<br>create (1)                    |\n\n**Min-U-Script® Ellen Grauer Court Reporting Co. LLC (2) books - create**\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 132 of 140\n\n| 109:25                                                                    | 55:16;63:16;70:8;                         | 121:15,16,17,22;               | Ellen (2)             | 7:7                         |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------------|\n| created (1)                                                               | 74:16,19;75:13;                           | 122:3,13,17;123:2,3,           | 7:15,18               | even (1)                    |\n| 110:2                                                                     | 109:8;115:22;120:15;                      | 13,17;124:4,10,14              | else (11)             | 95:2                        |\n| currently (11)                                                            | 121:3;124:20;125:9                        | documents (61)                 | 12:16,20;14:17;       | evidencing (1)              |\n| 14:15;34:11,12;                                                           | designated (1)                            | 19:21;20:2,3,7,14,             | 16:23;24:4;31:11;     | 109:8                       |\n|                                                                           |                                           |                                |                       |                             |\n| 41:11;48:10,19;49:9,                                                      | 11:16                                     | 17;21:10;23:16;26:2;           | 77:18,25;78:16;       | exactly (4)                 |\n| 14,16;54:24;115:10                                                        | DI (2)                                    | 27:2;28:2,11;29:19;            | 87:21,25              | 24:20;67:9;85:19;           |\n| cut (1)                                                                   | 91:10;93:19                               | 30:15,23;31:17;                | E-MAIL (2)            | 116:14                      |\n| 27:20                                                                     | different (2)                             | 32:16,18,22;38:13;             | 3:9;36:24             | EXAMINATION (2)             |\n|                                                                           | 25:12;42:14                               | 39:6,13,15,19,25;              | employed (1)          | 8:6;119:7                   |\n| D                                                                         | direct (9)                                | 41:21;42:16,22,22;             | 19:9                  | examined (1)                |\n|                                                                           | 19:25;20:19;29:6;                         | 43:23;44:17;45:3;              | employees (3)         | 8:3                         |\n| DAN (2)                                                                   | 44:19;58:15,16;80:7;                      | 47:21;56:4,14;57:24;           | 36:18;96:16,19        | except (1)                  |\n| 3:14;7:14                                                                 | 84:23;105:5                               | 63:17;65:5;85:23;              | employer (2)          | 6:9                         |\n| Daniel (3)                                                                | director (23)                             | 86:13;95:13;97:5;              | 42:25,25              | executed (1)                |\n| 7:4;125:7,17                                                              | 32:25;33:13,14,16,                        | 98:10,18,20,25;99:3,           | encumbered (6)        | 117:22                      |\n| date (7)                                                                  | 17,17,23,24;34:2,8,                       | 5;102:2;109:7;                 | 48:10;49:10,13;       | Exhibit (47)                |\n| 7:12;20:21,25;21:8;                                                       | 10,11,13,14;37:15;                        | 111:15;115:18;116:9,           | 50:6;102:5,16         | 9:15,19;10:4,9,11,          |\n| 59:16;61:18;71:16                                                         | 44:22;45:6;46:12;                         | 20,25;119:19;120:10,           | encumbrances (1)      | 15,16,24,24;17:9;           |\n| dated (9)                                                                 | 66:17;67:12;80:16;                        | 13,16,22;121:2                 | 102:14                | 20:6,13;44:20;55:3,7,       |\n| 21:2;45:6;57:6;                                                           | 95:2;99:23                                | dollar (4)                     | end (1)               | 20;56:18,22;58:2,8;         |\n| 59:14;66:2;69:10;                                                         | directors (10)                            | 30:2,3,8,13                    | 64:18                 | 65:15,18;69:2,5;            |\n| 103:11;112:15,19                                                          | 33:7,10;37:21,23;                         | done (1)                       | ended (3)             | 74:15;75:12;80:6;           |\n| dates (1)                                                                 | 38:9;39:21;95:15,17;                      | 42:6                           | 24:15;32:12;84:12     | 84:24;86:4;102:25;          |\n|                                                                           | 96:25;112:20                              | doubt (1)                      | engaged (1)           | 103:5;112:14,18;            |\n| 53:10                                                                     |                                           |                                |                       |                             |\n| day (7)                                                                   | Director's (3)                            | 107:21                         | 42:7                  | 119:11,24;120:6,19,         |\n| 21:3;33:17,21,24;                                                         | 20:21,25;21:8                             | down (3)                       | England (1)           | 20,23,24,25;121:14;         |\n| 34:10;37:19;125:21                                                        | disbursed (1)                             | 58:22,23;105:6                 | 13:15                 | 122:9,20,25;123:19,         |\n| days (5)                                                                  | 87:15                                     | during (5)                     | enough (1)            | 22                          |\n| 33:21,25;83:9;                                                            | disclose (1)                              | 13:25;29:3;32:19;              | 101:14                | exhibits (5)                |\n| 85:18;86:14                                                               | 108:15                                    | 33:6;74:19                     | enter (4)             | 56:2,3,3;119:10,11          |\n| debt (1)                                                                  | discuss (3)                               | duties (1)                     | 82:10,17,24;86:17     | exist (1)                   |\n| 27:19                                                                     | 12:8,20;13:16                             | 19:11                          | entered (10)          | 46:5                        |\n| December (2)                                                              | discussed (10)                            |                                | 26:14,19,20,24;       | existence (5)               |\n| 7:13;16:4                                                                 | 13:17;14:6,8,10,12,                       | E                              | 52:10;66:19;67:10,    | 30:22;32:20;33:7;           |\n| decision (3)                                                              | 14,18;16:18,19;                           |                                | 16;87:10;103:12       | 94:7,14                     |\n| 51:23;52:6;54:14                                                          | 102:22                                    | earlier (6)                    | enters (1)            | expected (2)                |\n| Declaration (1)                                                           | discussion (3)                            | 43:12;53:20;64:2;              | 50:2                  | 63:21;65:13                 |\n| 102:25                                                                    | 14:22;15:3,5                              | 67:21;75:13;102:22             | entirety (5)          | experience (1)              |\n| decreased (1)                                                             | discussions (8)                           | early (1)                      | 30:21;59:9;61:5;      | 64:22                       |\n| 115:3                                                                     | 11:25;67:14;70:3,                         | 111:22                         | 94:7,13               | explained (1)               |\n| deemed (2)                                                                | 12;72:13,20;73:3,13                       | ECF (1)                        | Entities (12)         | 58:18                       |\n| 83:7,13                                                                   | dispute (1)                               | 75:8                           | 3:4;8:9,12;19:23;     | extended (1)                |\n|                                                                           |                                           |                                |                       |                             |\n| defendant (1)                                                             | 91:25                                     | eCourt's (1)                   | 20:18;93:8,18,25;     | 79:7                        |\n| 58:11                                                                     | distinguishing (1)                        | 123:6                          | 103:8;107:23;108:2,   | extent (1)                  |\n| Defendant's (2)                                                           | 31:7                                      | effect (1)                     | 18                    | 80:23                       |\n| 58:2,8                                                                    | docket (2)                                | 6:16                           | entitled (3)          | extra (1)                   |\n| defined (3)                                                               | 121:20;122:14                             | effective (7)                  | 20:21,24;44:21        | 74:18                       |\n| 10:12;111:5;114:9                                                         | Document (74)                             | 21:2;59:23;61:18;              | entity (19)           |                             |\n| defines (1)                                                               | 10:9;20:23,24;                            | 62:13;63:7;69:10;              | 8:16,23;9:4;21:5;     | F                           |\n| 105:8                                                                     | 22:12,18,20;23:2,14;                      | 85:12                          | 26:21,22;27:8,12,13,  |                             |\n| Department (1)                                                            | 29:14,18;44:21,24,25;                     | EIN (2)                        | 16;28:9;50:20;85:7;   | facility (2)                |\n| 85:4                                                                      | 45:13,15;55:8,9,19,                       | 42:25;117:25                   | 93:8,13,16,23;113:19, | 54:4,6                      |\n| depose (1)                                                                | 21;56:17;57:2,12;                         | either (7)                     | 22                    | fact (4)                    |\n| 78:10                                                                     | 58:12;59:14;60:15;                        | 40:21,23;45:18;                | ESQ (1)               | 59:17;67:15;72:4;           |\n|                                                                           |                                           | 73:15;82:3;92:18;              | 3:7                   | 117:6                       |\n|                                                                           |                                           |                                |                       |                             |\n|                                                                           | 64:3,8,12,14,17,18;                       |                                |                       |                             |\n| 90:6                                                                      | 65:20,24;66:9,10,12;                      | 111:10                         | established (1)       | false (5)                   |\n|                                                                           | 69:20;84:25;85:2,10,                      | elaborate (1)                  | 59:21                 | 60:9,12,20;61:8,12          |\n| 6:13;7:4,11;9:16,                                                         | 25;86:5;103:9;                            | 26:18                          | estate (11)           | familiar (1)                |\n| 20;10:3,5,10,11,18,                                                       | 105:17;106:7;107:3,                       | elected (1)                    | 24:9,13,16,19,20,     | 92:3                        |\n| 25;11:5,15;12:13;                                                         | 6,12;109:8;114:22;                        | 38:4                           | 25;42:19;83:6,12,15;  | family (4)                  |\n| deposited (1)<br>deposition (33)<br>13:17;16:15;29:4;<br>40:21;41:2,7,11; | 117:5,10,14,17,20,23;<br>118:3,4;120:4,5; | Elian (4)<br>33:14,16,23;37:19 | 84:16<br>et (1)       | 15:20;31:24;84:16;<br>114:6 |\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 133 of 140\n\n| far (2)              | 78:18,25;82:18;       | four (2)               | 67:12,15;68:19,25;    | 16:2,9,12;23:25;      |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 21:9;29:17           | 97:15,20;106:20,25;   | 58:23;86:14            | 69:21;70:11,11,13,19, | 28:22;32:11,11;       |\n| father (3)           | 107:8                 | front (2)              | 20,22;71:2,6,6;72:14, | 34:14;36:11;37:5,13,  |\n| 15:9;72:2;112:10     | focus (2)             | 35:25;75:5             | 14;73:15,15;74:3,4;   | 25;38:4,10,12,17,24;  |\n| February (13)        | 19:19;60:7            | full (1)               | 76:9;77:13,13,23,23;  | 39:23;40:20,23;41:8,  |\n| 21:3;23:20;37:12,    | follow (2)            | 116:11                 | 78:14,14;80:11,12,13, | 22;42:5;43:21;52:4;   |\n| 24;45:6;66:2;85:12,  | 91:13,15              | Fund (1)               | 14,16,25;81:3,7,8,10, | 54:3;66:5;70:7;71:12, |\n|                      |                       |                        |                       |                       |\n| 24;86:7,9,10;87:5;   | follows (1)           | 7:7                    | 11,11,18,19,19;82:8,  | 20;72:5;78:24;79:10,  |\n| 103:11               | 8:4                   | funded (2)             | 9,16,23;83:8,8,11,14, | 15,18,25;83:25;84:6,  |\n| feel (1)             | force (1)             | 88:15;100:14           | 18,18;84:9,10,18,19,  | 11,16,20;88:23;94:19, |\n| 20:3                 | 6:16                  | funding (1)            | 19;85:5,7,10,17,18,   | 24;95:25;96:4;99:17,  |\n| fees (12)            | form (113)            | 32:12                  | 23;86:8,9,16,16,22;   | 24;100:6;103:20;      |\n| 87:19;88:2;90:23;    | 6:10;10:7;11:11;      | FURTHER (5)            | 87:4,10,14,24;88:4;   | 104:2,5,11,14;112:4,  |\n| 91:4,19;92:9;93:4,7, | 17:25;18:9;19:14;     | 6:8,12;109:18;         | 89:5,10,18,21;90:3,7, | 8,11;114:12;115:9;    |\n| 13,17,24;100:16      | 21:15;23:8;24:22;     | 118:24;124:16          | 11,11,15,15,22,23;    | 117:6,18,20,24        |\n| felt (2)             | 25:17,23;26:11;27:9;  | future (1)             | 91:3,4,18,18,23;92:5, |                       |\n| 84:7,20              | 30:9;31:3,13;34:3,18; | 49:20                  | 22;93:4,14,17,24;     | H                     |\n| few (3)              | 39:4,10,17;40:16;     |                        | 94:5,6,7,10,12,13,13, |                       |\n| 85:22;90:17;91:24    | 41:5,12,17,24;42:10;  | G                      | 16,20,25;95:8,11,14,  | hand (1)              |\n| Fifth (1)            | 44:7;46:2,8,15;47:5,  |                        | 18,22;96:3,10,15,18,  | 19:20                 |\n| 97:11                | 17;48:5,11;49:3,11,   | gave (1)               | 21,24;97:7,14,18,22;  | handed (8)            |\n| file (2)             | 22;50:7,15,21;51:14,  | 51:21                  | 98:5,9,17,18,20,24,   | 9:24;55:6;56:22;      |\n| 121:25;124:7         | 25;57:19;59:19;60:2,  | generated (1)          | 24;99:3,8,15,18,21,   | 58:7;65:18;69:5;      |\n| filed (10)           | 13,21;61:10;62:2,17;  |                        | 23,24,25;100:7,8,20;  |                       |\n|                      |                       | 39:20                  |                       | 74:18;112:17          |\n| 58:10;60:6;61:19;    | 63:13;64:19;65:8;     | Genever (416)          | 101:2,6,16,20;102:5,  | happened (1)          |\n| 63:11,17;120:10;     | 66:20;67:6,18;68:9,   | 3:4,13;8:12,16,20,     | 10,11,15;103:8;       | 115:15                |\n| 121:18;122:2;123:5,  | 15,21;69:17,23;70:15, | 21,24;9:4,7,7,17,20;   | 104:18,18;105:9,12,   | happens (1)           |\n| 23                   | 24;71:8;72:17;73:22;  | 10:4,5,10,11;11:8,9,   | 14,16,24;106:4,8,8,   | 78:10                 |\n| files (3)            | 74:6,12;76:4,25;      | 17,17;13:19,19;14:7,   | 15,17,23;107:16,23,   | head (2)              |\n| 22:21;64:18;116:11   | 77:15;78:2,20;79:2,   | 8,9,10,12,12,13,14,15, | 25;108:8,8,14,17;     | 35:25;71:17           |\n| filing (3)           | 22;81:13;82:8,12,20;  | 16;15:15;16:20,21,22,  | 111:10;113:12,15,20;  | held (8)              |\n| 6:6;122:14;123:6     | 83:2,21;86:11,19;     | 25;17:4,8,14,16,18,    | 116:10,11;117:6,11,   | 7:11;14:15;47:19;     |\n| filings (1)          | 89:2,24;90:24;93:10;  | 22,24;18:7,13,20,25;   | 18,19,21,25;118:6,6,  | 51:9;98:20;101:2,16;  |\n| 121:6                | 95:4;96:5;97:3,9;     | 19:6,9,13,19,23;       | 11,16;120:13,13;      | 110:3                 |\n| Finance (1)          | 98:11,21;99:10;       | 20:18;21:4;22:6,16;    | 121:10,13;122:5,7,18, | helpful (1)           |\n| 112:13               | 100:2;101:7;102:7,    | 23:6,11,19,24;24:6,    | 23;123:11,15;124:8,   | 12:5                  |\n| find (2)             | 19;104:8;107:5;       | 10,16;25:15;26:4,6,8,  | 13                    | HEREBY (3)            |\n| 36:2;123:2           | 108:23;111:12,18,25;  | 9,14,19,24;27:4,7,14,  | Genever's (3)         | 6:3,6;125:7           |\n| fine (5)             | 113:5;115:5;116:12,   | 15,16;28:8,13;29:10,   | 22:21;85:14;108:11    | herein (1)            |\n| 8:18;9:5;28:25;      | 21;117:8;118:7,17;    | 16;30:7,7,21,22;31:2,  | Gilmore (1)           | 6:5                   |\n| 29:5;43:16           | 120:18                | 6,12;32:15,19,21;      | 7:18                  | himself (3)           |\n| firm (10)            | formal (1)            | 33:2,6,24;34:2,8,16;   | given (1)             | 71:23;104:19;112:6    |\n| 45:18;82:4;90:16,    | 53:16                 | 35:4,7,14,15;36:17,    | 125:12                | hired (1)             |\n| 20;91:5;92:6,13,14,  | formalities (1)       | 20,24;37:3,7,11;38:2,  | glad (1)              | 27:22                 |\n| 16,21                | 13:18                 | 8,21;39:2,12,15;       | 118:20                | Ho (5)                |\n| firms (1)            | formation (13)        | 40:15,24;41:7,10,16,   | gladly (1)            | 21:18,20;45:7;        |\n| 92:18                | 14:6;25:6,9,16;       | 23;42:8,16,22;43:4,6,  | 78:12                 | 112:21;114:12         |\n| firm's (1)           | 28:14;41:21;42:12;    | 8,18,19,22,24;44:5,6,  | Golden (9)            | Hodgson (8)           |\n| 92:9                 | 43:13,21;81:20;       | 10,11,13,15,16,21;     | 88:16,18,19,21,25;    | 7:12;58:11;60:5,8,    |\n| first (13)           | 82:15;96:8;99:5       | 45:5,21;46:2,4,13,14,  | 89:15,17;90:8;100:14  | 17;90:16,23;92:15     |\n| 13:4;22:10,11;       | formed (27)           | 25;47:3,4,8,9,10,10,   | goods (1)             | hold (12)             |\n| 33:14,17,23;75:21;   | 22:16;24:6,7;33:2;    | 14,14,15,19,20,23,24;  | 27:21                 | 35:14;48:24;49:6;     |\n| 80:10,18;103:16;     | 37:12,24;39:20;       | 48:3,4,9,15,19,20,23;  | Grauer (2)            | 83:19;84:10;100:9,    |\n| 104:6;105:7;109:21   | 44:16;82:10,16;83:9,  | 49:5,6,9,25;50:6,11,   | 7:15,19               | 15,18;106:8,24;       |\n| fit (2)              | 19;84:3,10,15;85:17,  | 13,19,23,25;51:3,4,9,  | Great (1)             | 107:11,16             |\n|                      |                       |                        |                       |                       |\n| 83:7,13              | 18,20,23;86:6,6,8,10, | 9,12,13,16,18,21,24;   | 10:13                 | holding (6)           |\n| five (6)             | 17;87:5;88:9;90:4     | 52:2;53:22;54:5,14,    | Group (3)             | 30:7;105:25;          |\n| 10:17,21,25;11:5;    | forming (3)           | 25;55:10,21;56:5,14,   | 88:19,21,25           | 106:18;107:7,21,25    |\n| 58:23;85:18          | 22:4;23:24;82:23      | 14;57:12,16,22;59:5,   | guess (1)             | Holdings (13)         |\n| flip (2)             | forms (1)             | 6,7,17,22;61:4,15,24;  | 43:20                 | 8:13,21,24;9:8;       |\n| 20:4;56:13           | 15:14                 | 62:10,12;63:2,7,10,    | Guo (71)              | 22:6,16;23:6;29:10;   |\n| floor (11)           | foundation (1)        | 10,25;64:4,7,11,16;    | 11:18;12:23;13:6,     | 44:21;80:16;85:5;     |\n| 76:24;77:4,21;       | 81:12                 | 65:4;66:8,12,16;       | 12,13,24;15:20,23;    | 105:9,14              |\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 134 of 140\n\n| Hong (6)             | 42:8                  | 12:12;42:5;63:22;                          | 10:16,24;80:22               | little (1)                     |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|--------------------------------------------|------------------------------|--------------------------------|\n| 35:21;36:15;40:6;    | interest (21)         | 66:7,8;89:21;113:9;                        | later (1)                    | 48:14                          |\n| 88:19,22,25          | 73:20;74:10;75:15,    | 115:8;118:20                               | 53:21                        | lived (2)                      |\n| Hotel (13)           | 22,25;76:7,8,11,13,   | known (3)                                  | Law (4)                      | 78:24;79:4                     |\n| 14:20;24:14;77:21;   | 17,20,23;77:6,11,20;  | 22:6;60:17;110:18                          | 58:3,9;92:6,9                | lives (2)                      |\n| 78:18;79:9,18;83:16; | 78:6,17;83:19;84:11;  | knows (1)                                  | LAWALL (1)                   | 31:22;97:19                    |\n| 86:18;87:12;90:9;    | 88:24;115:2           | 65:12                                      | 3:3                          | LLC (6)                        |\n| 91:24;98:7;100:24    | interests (1)         | Kong (6)                                   | laws (1)                     | 3:3;8:13,21;85:5;              |\n| hundred (1)          | 95:11                 | 35:22;36:15;40:7;                          | 22:4                         | 94:10;105:15                   |\n| 51:7                 | into (17)             | 88:19,22,25                                | lawsuit (10)                 | LLP (1)                        |\n|                      | 26:14,19,20,24;       | Kwok (100)                                 | 67:17;68:8;90:12;            | 58:11                          |\n| I                    | 50:2;52:10;66:19;     | 11:18;12:7,8,17;                           | 91:19;92:8,23;93:9,          | loan (6)                       |\n|                      | 67:11,16;82:10,17,24; | 14:13;15:21;19:24;                         | 14,18,25                     | 51:17,20;54:4,6,7;             |\n| idea (4)             | 86:17;87:11;89:18;    | 21:18,20,22;22:13,16;                      | lawyer (2)                   | 66:5                           |\n| 71:18,24;72:3;84:6   | 90:7;103:12           | 23:23;28:14,15,16,21,                      | 45:18;78:10                  | located (1)                    |\n| identification (11)  | invest (5)            | 22;29:22;30:13,18,20,                      | lawyers (1)                  | 13:13                          |\n| 9:18,21;20:8;42:25;  | 24:25;54:8;83:6,12;   | 25;31:15,19,24;                            | 64:22                        | long (3)                       |\n|                      |                       |                                            |                              |                                |\n| 55:5;56:21;58:6;     | 84:17<br>invested (1) | 32:25;33:8,18;34:2,7;<br>37:17;38:6,16,20; | leading (2)<br>119:22;123:25 | 33:19;64:13;65:14<br>look (18) |\n| 65:17;69:4;103:3;    |                       |                                            |                              |                                |\n| 112:16               | 83:14                 | 40:20,23;41:15;45:8,                       | lease (4)                    | 10:14,16,23;19:25;             |\n| identified (1)       | investment (1)        | 9;48:24;52:5;54:13;                        | 68:14,19;77:3;               | 20:4;22:24;43:15;              |\n| 119:14               | 40:12                 | 59:2,4,10;66:18;67:2,                      | 108:16                       | 59:13;75:20;80:18,             |\n| identify (13)        | investments (1)       | 3,11;70:14;71:12;                          | leases (1)                   | 22;81:22;86:3;                 |\n| 20:23;23:2,7;29:13;  | 54:9                  | 72:6,16;73:19,25;                          | 76:9                         | 103:14;105:22;                 |\n| 44:24;55:8;57:2;     | involved (8)          | 75:15,24;76:6,19;                          | left (2)                     | 109:24;110:17;114:7            |\n| 65:20;69:7;77:25;    | 23:23;42:12,13;       | 77:11,19,19;78:19,23;                      | 74:21;104:2                  | looked (2)                     |\n| 78:16;84:25;100:21   | 43:13,13,21;52:5;     | 84:12,17;88:24;                            | left-hand (1)                | 25:12;85:22                    |\n| inaccurate (3)       | 54:13                 | 91:17,23;92:5,23;                          | 103:15                       | looking (7)                    |\n| 22:21;83:24;114:22   | involves (1)          | 93:13,17,24;94:16,20,                      | Legal (13)                   | 15:2,6,17;54:3;                |\n| Inc (1)              | 102:11                | 25;97:19;99:12,14,16,                      | 7:15,19;63:17;               | 85:25;119:18,24                |\n| 112:22               | Island (1)            | 22;102:10;104:17,18;                       | 68:22;90:23;91:4,18;         | looks (2)                      |\n| include (1)          | 23:4                  | 108:14;109:22;111:7,                       | 92:9;93:4,7,13,17,24         | 85:2;103:24                    |\n| 59:7                 | Islands (3)           | 22;112:5,21;113:3,16,                      | legally (1)                  | lost (1)                       |\n| incorporated (3)     | 22:5;34:25;98:19      | 18;114:5,11,17;                            | 114:10                       | 115:12                         |\n| 23:20;29:9;85:11     |                       | 115:12;119:15                              | lend (1)                     | lot (2)                        |\n| Incorporation (2)    | J                     | KWOK143 (2)                                | 32:7                         | 15:10;116:7                    |\n| 23:5,11              |                       | 20:7,16                                    | lent (3)                     | LP (1)                         |\n| increased (1)        | January (1)           | KWOK145 (1)                                | 31:22;32:6,9                 | 7:7                            |\n| 115:2                | 112:3                 | 22:25                                      | Letter (4)                   | Luck (26)                      |\n| incurred (1)         | Jersey (1)            | KWOK147 (1)                                | 112:14,18;114:4,18           | 28:7;32:9,13;73:18;            |\n| 27:19                | 3:6                   | 29:8                                       | liability (6)                | 102:10;103:7;104:15;           |\n| Index (1)            | JPMorgan (2)          | KWOK176 (1)                                | 46:18,21;74:11;              | 108:3,7,16;109:5,9;            |\n| 7:9                  | 100:12;101:5          | 20:22                                      | 75:16,23;76:3                | 110:14;111:6,9,24;             |\n| indicated (2)        | Judge (1)             | KWOK193 (3)                                | lien (2)                     | 112:4,7,9,23;114:10,           |\n| 12:15;117:23         | 49:24                 | 44:20,23;80:8                              | 49:16;110:2                  | 17,20,25;115:2,10              |\n| indicates (1)        | jump (1)              | KWOK194 (1)                                | Limited (12)                 |                                |\n| 117:10               | 58:22                 | 20:16                                      | 26:22;46:18,21;              | M                              |\n| indicating (1)       | June (1)              | Kwok's (26)                                | 74:11;75:16,22;76:2;         |                                |\n| 49:25                | 69:10                 | 12:24;13:7;15:24;                          | 88:20,22,25;104:15;          | MACOM (2)                      |\n| individuals (2)      | Justice (4)           | 21:14;22:21;24:2;                          | 112:23                       | 3:14;7:14                      |\n| 11:25;40:14          | 50:5;102:4,13,17      | 28:23;30:6;31:21;                          | line (1)                     | Madison (1)                    |\n| information (1)      |                       | 32:11;70:23;71:7;                          | 21:19                        | 3:5                            |\n| 118:15               | K                     | 73:13;74:9,15,19;                          | lines (1)                    | Magnanini (2)                  |\n| Initially (4)        |                       | 75:12,21;76:11;                            | 58:23                        | 93:2,7                         |\n| 24:7;33:20;71:22;    | keep (1)              | 83:19,25;103:24;                           | listed (1)                   | Magnanini's (1)                |\n| 83:25                | 36:7                  | 104:3,6;114:25;                            | 12:12                        | 93:4                           |\n| inquiry (1)          | kept (1)              | 119:20                                     | listen (1)                   | mail (1)                       |\n| 85:5                 | 36:15                 |                                            | 62:20                        | 99:6                           |\n| instruct (2)         | kinds (1)             | L                                          | litigation (12)              | mailing (8)                    |\n| 91:6;93:19           | 54:9                  |                                            | 117:14;118:10;               | 34:24;35:7,8,16,16;            |\n| instruction (2)      | knew (4)              | landed (1)                                 | 119:21;120:11;121:7,         | 36:6,14;97:21                  |\n| 91:14,16             | 60:9;66:18;109:4,9    | 103:4                                      | 18,19,25;122:2;123:8,        | maintain (1)                   |\n| interaction (1)      | knowledge (9)         | last (3)                                   | 24;124:6                     | 39:16                          |\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 135 of 140\n\n| maintained (14)                        |                                         |                                             |                        |                                   |\n|----------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------|------------------------|-----------------------------------|\n|                                        | 84:17,18;94:12;                         | 18,25;113:5,14,21;                          | 22,24;18:7,13,21,25;   | oath (2)                          |\n| 39:25;40:7;56:15;                      | 95:20,22                                | 115:5,13,16,20;                             | 19:6,9,13;24:11;26:6,  | 6:15;125:9                        |\n| 57:13;64:3,16;69:21;                   | members (1)                             | 116:12,21;117:8;                            | 9;43:7,19;44:6,11,13,  | Object (107)                      |\n| 98:14,19,25;105:3;                     | 94:11                                   | 118:7,17;119:2,8;                           | 16;46:2,4,6,6,13;47:4, | 10:7;11:11;17:25;                 |\n| 121:10;122:4,18                        | membership (1)                          | 120:6;124:16                                | 8,11,14,20,24;48:4,    | 18:9;19:14;21:15;                 |\n| maintaining (1)                        | 95:11                                   | Mitchell's (2)                              | 20;49:6,9;50:2,6,25;   | 23:8;24:22;25:17,23;              |\n| 36:9                                   | Memorandum (3)                          | 90:20;91:4                                  | 51:9,10;56:14;63:11;   | 26:11;27:9;30:9;31:3,             |\n| maintains (3)                          | 58:3,8;122:9                            | Monday (1)                                  | 68:19;71:6;72:14;      | 13;34:3,18;39:4,10,               |\n|                                        |                                         |                                             |                        |                                   |\n| 16:20;35:22;66:13                      | mentioned (3)                           | 16:3                                        | 73:15;74:4;76:10;      | 17;40:16;41:4,12,17,              |\n| maintenance (9)                        | 20:14;37:5;50:18                        | money (24)                                  | 77:13,23;78:14;        | 24;42:10;44:7;46:8,               |\n| 87:19;88:2;89:11;                      | mentioning (1)                          | 27:7,15,19,21;28:4,                         | 80:12,14;81:3,8,11,    | 15;47:5,17;48:5,11;               |\n| 90:9;91:25;100:15,                     | 28:20                                   | 9;30:18;31:22;32:6,8,                       | 11,19,19;82:8,9,16,    | 49:3,11,22;50:7,15,               |\n| 19,23;101:13                           | mentions (1)                            | 9;42:7;87:15,24;                            | 24;83:8,11,14,18;      | 21;51:14,25;57:19;                |\n| management (1)                         | 45:15                                   | 88:11,16;89:14,18;                          | 84:10,19;85:3,7,11,    | 59:19;60:2,13,21;                 |\n| 14:11                                  | Michael (2)                             | 90:6,8;100:15,18;                           | 11,17;86:9,16,23;      | 61:10;62:17;63:13;                |\n| March (11)                             | 81:23;82:2                              | 101:4;109:4                                 | 87:4,10,14,24;88:4,    | 64:19;65:8;66:20;                 |\n| 57:6,18,22;59:23;                      | mid (1)                                 | month (1)                                   | 17,18;89:5,10,16,18,   | 67:6;68:9,15,21;                  |\n| 61:18;62:13;63:8;                      | 71:25                                   | 101:15                                      | 18,21;90:3,7,11,15,    | 69:17,23;70:15,24;                |\n| 112:15,19;114:16;                      | middle (1)                              | monthly (1)                                 | 22;91:4,18,23;92:5;    | 71:8;72:17;73:22;                 |\n| 115:3                                  | 29:11                                   | 101:13                                      | 93:4;94:6,7,10,13,14,  | 74:6,12;76:4,25;                  |\n| marked (11)                            | might (2)                               | more (5)                                    | 20;95:8,11,14,18;      | 77:15;78:2,20;79:2,               |\n| 9:17,20,25;20:8;                       | 43:6;97:25                              | 19:3;20:5;26:16;                            | 96:3,10,15,18,21,24;   | 22;81:13;82:12,20;                |\n|                                        |                                         |                                             |                        |                                   |\n| 55:4;56:20;58:5;                       | Miles (6)                               | 42:3;101:12                                 | 97:7,14,18,22;98:5,9,  | 83:2,21;86:11,19;                 |\n| 65:16;69:4;103:2;                      | 11:18;21:22;28:16,                      | Morristown (1)                              | 17,18;99:3,8,15,18,    | 89:2,24;90:24;93:10;              |\n| 112:15                                 | 22;77:19;78:19                          | 3:6                                         | 25;100:7,8,14,20;      | 95:4;96:5;97:3,9;                 |\n| marking (2)                            | million (1)                             | mortgage (1)                                | 101:2,6,16,20;102:5,   | 98:11,21;99:10;                   |\n| 20:9,11                                | 101:12                                  | 110:2                                       | 10,15;104:18;105:16;   | 100:2;101:7;102:7,                |\n| marks (1)                              | minutes (2)                             | MOSS (34)                                   | 106:4,8,15,17,23;      | 19;104:8;107:5;                   |\n| 74:25                                  | 74:21;85:22                             | 8:7;12:4,6;13:5;                            | 107:16;108:7,8,14;     | 108:23;111:12,18,25;              |\n| math (1)                               | missing (2)                             | 20:11;43:9;56:12;                           | 113:12,15,20;116:10;   | 113:5;115:5;116:12,               |\n| 30:11                                  | 116:25;117:4                            | 62:8;65:23;73:7;                            | 117:19,21;118:2,6;     | 21;117:8;118:7,17                 |\n| matter (1)                             | mistaken (1)                            | 74:17;75:4;78:9;                            | 120:13;121:7,11;       | Objection (12)                    |\n| 7:6                                    | 59:23                                   | 79:23;81:16;91:8;                           | 122:5,19;123:11,23;    | 62:2,24;63:4;67:18;               |\n| may (26)                               | MITCHELL (141)                          | 92:19;93:21;113:12,                         | 124:8                  | 78:8;113:10;115:13,               |\n| 6:13;37:10,13,24;                      | 3:3,7;10:7;11:11,                       | 18,23;115:23;116:6,                         | next (2)               | 16,20;119:22;120:18;              |\n| 38:5,15;53:7;55:12;                    | 20;13:3;17:25;18:9;                     | 17;118:22,24;119:6,                         | 29:7;104:6             | 123:25                            |\n| 57:6;59:5,14;60:12,                    | 19:14;20:9;21:15;                       | 22;120:5,8,18,21;                           | nobody (1)             | objections (1)                    |\n| 23;61:5,15,22,25;                      | 23:8;24:22;25:17,23;                    | 123:25;124:17                               |                        |                                   |\n|                                        |                                         |                                             |                        |                                   |\n|                                        |                                         |                                             | 31:11                  | 6:9                               |\n| 62:11;63:3;75:7,8,9;                   | 26:11;27:9;30:9;31:3,                   | most (1)                                    | Notary (2)             | obtain (2)                        |\n| 100:6;110:20;120:9;                    | 13;32:3;34:3,18;39:4,                   | 101:4                                       | 8:2;125:25             | 46:5;54:3                         |\n| 121:24                                 | 10,17;40:10,16;41:4,                    | Motion (2)                                  | note (2)               | obtained (2)                      |\n| Maybe (2)                              | 12,17,24;42:10;43:3;                    | 58:4,9                                      | 113:10;119:13          | 111:17;118:14                     |\n| 11:20;72:4                             | 44:7;46:8,15;47:5,17;                   | much (3)                                    | noted (1)              | O'Connor (3)                      |\n| mean (17)                              | 48:5,11;49:3,11,22;                     | 14:3,4;64:23                                | 124:23                 | 81:24;82:2,8                      |\n| 8:19;9:7;18:4;19:2,                    | 50:7,15,21;51:14,25;                    |                                             | notice (15)            | off (21)                          |\n| 7;34:20;42:3;49:13;                    | 52:12;56:7;57:19;                       | N                                           | 9:16,19;10:3,4,10,     | 35:24;53:5,9,13,22;               |\n| 61:12,14;73:2;79:4,6;                  | 59:19;60:2,13,21,24;                    |                                             | 11;12:13;50:4;56:18,   | 54:20;57:18;67:22;                |\n|                                        |                                         |                                             |                        |                                   |\n| 92:16;99:12;104:10;                    | 61:10;62:2,17,24;                       | name (4)                                    | 23;57:5;65:11;69:2,9;  | 68:3,5,7,12;70:4,6,9;             |\n| 120:22                                 | 63:4,13;64:19;65:8,                     | 7:14;13:4;92:13,21                          | 113:8                  | 71:16;74:22;115:24,               |\n| meaning (1)                            | 21;66:20;67:6,18;                       | nature (1)                                  | noticed (1)            | 25;119:3;124:20                   |\n| 40:12                                  | 68:9,15,21;69:17,23;                    | 63:18                                       | 13:18                  | office (10)                       |\n| meant (1)                              | 70:15,24;71:8;72:17,                    | necessary (2)                               | notices (2)            | 16:21;34:21,21;                   |\n| 90:8                                   | 23;73:8,22;74:6,12;                     | 46:4;80:23                                  | 11:15;63:16            | 35:2,3,5;36:4,7;40:2,8            |\n| meeting (5)                            | 76:4,25;77:15;78:2,7,                   | need (2)                                    | Number (19)            | officer (3)                       |\n| 39:3,12;42:6;53:15;                    | 11,20;79:2,22;81:13;                    | 14:4;20:3                                   | 7:10;10:2;36:21,22;    | 6:14;37:16;38:20                  |\n| 97:2                                   | 82:12,20;83:2,21;                       | needed (1)                                  | 43:2;58:19;75:2;       | officers (6)                      |\n| meetings (2)                           | 86:11,19;89:2,24;                       | 27:19                                       | 96:22;105:7,23;        | 37:3,11;38:2,9,10,                |\n| 15:8,10                                | 90:24;91:6,10;92:11;                    | New (191)                                   | 106:14;107:20;         | 24                                |\n| Melissa (1)                            | 93:10,19;94:2;95:4;                     | 3:6;7:8,9;8:16,20;                          | 119:10,15,15;121:20;   | offices (5)                       |\n| 7:18                                   | 96:5;97:3,9;98:11,21;                   | 9:17;10:4,10;11:8,17;                       | 122:14;123:2,20        | 7:12;34:17,20;                    |\n| member (13)                            | 99:10;100:2;101:7;                      | 13:19;14:8,10,12,14,                        |                        | 96:11,13                          |\n| 31:24;44:10;80:11,<br>13;81:3,7,10,18; | 102:7,19;104:8;<br>107:5;108:23;111:12, | 16,20;15:8,16;16:21,<br>21;17:2,8,14,16,18, | O                      | official (4)<br>17:21;18:20;19:5; |\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 136 of 140\n\n**DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019**\n\n| 52:17                 | 19;78:6,13,16;       | 64:22;78:12;93:8;     | 7:5;8:8;9:1,15,19,    | 55:16;70:8;109:7       |\n|-----------------------|----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|------------------------|\n| once (2)              | 101:18;112:9;114:19; | 99:7                  | 24,25;10:1,2;11:1,22; | prepared (5)           |\n| 82:9,16               | 115:2                | percent (9)           | 12:1;13:1;14:1;15:1;  | 10:20;11:4;17:7,11;    |\n| one (27)              | owning (2)           | 51:5,8;112:6,9;       | 16:1;17:1;18:1;19:1,  | 114:19                 |\n| 8:12;11:14;14:6,6;    | 26:9;72:2            | 114:11,12,17;115:10,  | 20;20:1,6,10,13;21:1; | preparing (1)          |\n| 19:22,23;25:6,9;30:8; | owns (13)            | 12                    | 22:1,24;23:1;24:1;    | 12:9                   |\n| 40:21;47:4,15;58:22;  | 26:6,6;31:11;40:6;   | period (2)            | 25:1;26:1;27:1;28:1;  | PRESENT (3)            |\n| 83:4;86:21;92:18;     | 52:25;54:10;74:3,4;  | 33:20;38:18           | 29:1,7;30:1;31:1;     | 3:12;16:8,11           |\n| 93:7;94:2;106:12;     | 77:11;87:6;88:18,21; | periods (1)           | 32:1;33:1;34:1;35:1;  | president (16)         |\n| 107:2,3,10,13,16,18;  | 100:10               | 79:7                  | 36:1;37:1;38:1;39:1;  | 15:11,12;34:15;        |\n| 119:10;120:9          |                      | permit (1)            | 40:1;41:1;42:1;43:1;  | 37:8,9,13,25;38:5,10,  |\n| only (5)              | P                    | 46:4                  | 44:1,20;45:1;46:1;    | 12,16,18;39:23;43:23,  |\n| 33:17;34:12,14;       |                      | person (17)           | 47:1;48:1;49:1;50:1;  | 25;117:11              |\n| 56:10;73:2            | Pacific (3)          | 13:2;27:8,11,13,16;   | 51:1;52:1;53:1;54:1;  | previous (1)           |\n| oOo (1)               | 7:6;67:17;68:8       | 28:9;45:21;46:2;93:7, | 55:1,3,6;56:1,18,23;  | 114:10                 |\n| 6:19                  | page (21)            | 12,16,23;95:20,24;    | 57:1;58:1,2,7;59:1;   | previously (1)         |\n| Opportunity (1)       | 10:16,24;11:2;       | 100:7;117:21,24       | 60:1;61:1,8;62:1;     | 10:12                  |\n| 7:7                   | 20:20,20;22:25;29:7; | personal (1)          | 63:1;64:1;65:1,15,19; | primary (3)            |\n| Opposition (2)        | 44:20;58:16,19;80:8; | 46:23                 | 66:1;67:1;68:1;69:1,  | 79:5,10,19             |\n| 58:3,9                | 84:23;103:17,25;     | personnel (2)         | 2,6;70:1;71:1;72:1;   | printout (1)           |\n| order (8)             | 104:5;109:16,21;     | 14:10;17:8            | 73:1;74:1;75:1,5;     | 85:3                   |\n| 20:15;49:24;50:5;     | 110:17;114:7,8,10    | persons (1)           | 76:1;77:1;78:1;79:1;  | prior (8)              |\n| 58:4,10;102:4,13,18   | pages (1)            | 96:3                  | 80:1,7;81:1;82:1;     | 61:6;89:22;92:23;      |\n| ordinary (8)          | 120:23               | PHONE (5)             | 83:1;84:1;85:1;86:1;  | 110:5,10;111:8;        |\n| 55:22;56:5,15;        | paid (6)             | 3:8;13:2;36:20,22;    | 87:1;88:1;89:1;90:1;  | 120:3;124:3            |\n| 57:13;64:4,17;66:13;  | 27:7,15,23;30:17;    | 96:21                 | 91:1;92:1;93:1;94:1;  | privilege (3)          |\n| 69:21                 | 92:9;93:7            | Ping (1)              | 95:1;96:1;97:1;98:1;  | 12:3;91:7,11           |\n| organization (1)      | par (1)              | 75:6                  | 99:1;100:1;101:1;     | privileged (1)         |\n| 14:11                 | 29:24                | plaintiff (1)         | 102:1,25;103:1,4;     | 91:9                   |\n| Ostrager (1)          | paragraph (5)        | 7:5                   | 104:1;105:1;106:1;    | Probably (1)           |\n| 49:25                 | 22:10;58:17;75:20;   | Plaintiff's (2)       | 107:1;108:1;109:1;    | 67:2                   |\n| Ostrager's (4)        | 80:10,23             | 58:4,9                | 110:1;111:1;112:1,    | proceeding (2)         |\n| 50:5;102:4,13,18      | paraphrasing (1)     | plan (5)              | 14,17;113:1;114:1;    | 123:5,7                |\n| out (2)               | 116:16               | 25:5,8,11;82:15;      | 115:1;116:1,7;117:1;  | process (4)            |\n| 74:18;100:22          | part (1)             | 110:21                | 118:1,25;119:1,4,9,   | 35:9,17;36:13;98:2     |\n| outside (6)           | 97:15                | please (12)           | 11,18,24;120:1;       | produced (4)           |\n| 12:2;63:14;65:10;     | particular (2)       | 7:24;10:14,15,23;     | 121:1;122:1;123:1;    | 19:22;22:20;           |\n| 113:7;115:7;118:18    | 15:23;84:22          | 16:18;22:24;29:7,13;  | 124:1;125:7,17        | 117:14;119:20          |\n| over (1)              | parties (8)          | 45:2;52:14;57:3;69:7  | point (3)             | promised (1)           |\n| 86:23                 | 6:5;90:12;104:23;    | pledge (32)           | 50:10;54:20;67:22     | 49:19                  |\n| own (8)               | 105:8;110:19,19,23,  | 26:20,23;51:17,19,    | positive (1)          | properties (2)         |\n| 24:7;32:14,20;51:4,   | 25                   | 23;52:9,17;53:4,9,12, | 82:6                  | 25:13;42:14            |\n| 8;73:25;84:15;95:10   | party (1)            | 21;54:4,14,17,19,24;  | possess (2)           | property (5)           |\n| owned (7)             | 59:10                | 55:10;57:17;59:22;    | 98:9;99:4             | 75:23;76:9;106:18;     |\n| 32:10;52:21;59:10;    | past (2)             | 61:17;62:12;63:6;     | possible (1)          | 107:7;110:20           |\n| 111:24;112:4;114:11,  | 16:3;102:17          | 64:25;66:3,9,19;      | 49:20                 | proprietary (3)        |\n| 17                    | Paul (3)             | 67:10,16,22;70:4,9;   | Potentially (1)       | 68:13,19;77:3          |\n| owner (27)            | 45:19;82:4,5         | 102:21                | 91:10                 | provide (1)            |\n| 29:23;30:25;44:5;     | PAX (1)              | pledged (21)          | Pre-Judgment (2)      | 50:4                   |\n| 72:3,5;84:5,7,12,19,  | 50:4                 | 48:10,15,16;49:14;    | 58:5,10               | provided (2)           |\n| 21;108:2,3,6,7,17,22; | pay (11)             | 50:12,19,23,25;51:4,  | preparation (30)      | 116:20;119:9           |\n| 109:10,18;110:5,11,   | 27:19;28:5;30:13;    | 13;53:22,25;57:23;    | 12:18,21;16:14;       | provides (1)           |\n| 14,18,20;111:5,8;     | 89:10;90:8;93:13,16, | 59:8,17;61:4,16,23,   | 21:11;23:17;26:3;     | 29:22                  |\n| 112:6;115:10          | 23;100:15,19,23      | 25;62:11;63:3         | 27:3;28:3,11;29:20;   | providing (2)          |\n| owners (1)            | paying (4)           | pledges (7)           | 30:24;32:17,23;       | 117:18;118:5           |\n| 31:8                  | 90:22;91:3,18;93:3   | 67:4;68:18;72:21;     | 38:14;39:14;45:4;     | Public (3)             |\n| ownership (34)        | payments (2)         | 73:3,9,14;110:9       | 47:22;48:2,8;52:20;   | 8:3;85:4;125:25        |\n| 14:9;32:18;46:17,     | 88:12;100:22         | pledging (3)          | 53:19;57:10,25;       | publicly (4)           |\n| 21;59:7;70:13,22;     | pays (1)             | 51:7,8;111:9          | 95:13;97:6;109:13;    | 60:5,16;65:2,7         |\n| 71:6,11,13;72:13;     | 91:8                 | pm (7)                | 111:20;115:21;        | purchase (19)          |\n| 73:12,20;74:3,10;     | pending (1)          | 9:23;74:23;75:3;      | 120:15;121:9          | 14:19;15:15;24:8;      |\n| 75:15,21,25;76:6,7,   | 67:17                | 116:2,5;124:21,23     | prepare (6)           | 25:3,4,7,9;31:23;32:6, |\n| 11,13,16,20,23;77:5,  | people (4)           | Podhaskie (157)       | 11:7;13:25;16:6;      | 12;42:13,18,20;        |\n\n**Min-U-Script® Ellen Grauer Court Reporting Co. LLC (7) once - purchase**\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 137 of 140\n\n| 43:14;71:23;82:10,    | 68:2,6;114:21;        | 11:24;67:15;112:20    | 15:18                 | 40:2;78:4,12          |\n|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n|                       |                       |                       |                       |                       |\n| 17;84:2;96:9          | 116:24;117:3          | register (2)          | Resolution (9)        | Roscalitar (30)       |\n| purchased (1)         | recall (27)           | 39:21;99:6            | 20:22,25;21:9;        | 26:21;50:20,24;       |\n| 24:16                 | 14:21;18:15;43:23,    | registered (15)       | 39:22;52:16;53:16;    | 51:5,13,24;52:18,21;  |\n| purchasing (1)        | 25;67:3,9;71:16;      | 27:22;28:5;33:12;     | 80:19;81:22,23        | 53:2,5,12,21;55:11;   |\n| 42:15                 | 75:14,18;85:19;       | 35:8,17;36:13,23;     | resolutions (1)       | 57:17,23;59:9,18,22;  |\n| purpose (21)          | 117:22;118:13;121:6,  | 56:19,24;57:5;65:5;   | 96:8                  | 61:5,16,25;62:11,13;  |\n| 14:7;25:15,16;        | 22;122:3,6,8,17;      | 69:3,9;97:25;98:5     | Resolved (1)          | 63:3,6;64:25;73:10;   |\n| 41:10;82:23;86:22;    | 123:12,14,16,18;      | Registration (4)      | 80:19                 | 102:22;110:10;        |\n|                       |                       |                       |                       |                       |\n| 100:14,17;105:19,23,  | 124:3,9,11,13,15      | 55:4,18;65:16,25      | respect (4)           | 111:10                |\n| 25;106:8,14,17,18,23, | receive (2)           | related (1)           | 20:17;77:21;78:18;    | Russ (8)              |\n| 24;107:4,7,12,15      | 64:11,14              | 77:5                  | 95:8                  | 7:12;58:11;60:5,8,    |\n| purposes (14)         | received (3)          | relates (3)           | respective (1)        | 17;90:16,23;92:15     |\n| 25:21;28:19;83:4,5,   | 28:8;64:2,8           | 12:17;21:4;76:23      | 6:5                   |                       |\n| 12;86:21,25;106:12;   | receives (2)          | relating (8)          | respectively (1)      | S                     |\n| 107:2,4,10,13,17,19   | 88:16;99:6            | 43:18;65:6;81:23;     | 114:13                |                       |\n| Pursuant (2)          | Recess (2)            | 82:18;91:25;103:7;    | responsibility (1)    | same (18)             |\n| 56:20,25              | 74:24;116:3           | 115:18;118:15         | 19:12                 | 6:6,16;16:22;55:25;   |\n| put (3)               | recollection (3)      | relation (1)          | restructured (1)      | 62:4;83:10;85:20;     |\n| 55:12;89:18;118:15    | 13:24;85:21;120:4     | 119:20                | 70:22                 | 92:6,16,17;93:12,16,  |\n|                       |                       |                       |                       |                       |\n|                       | record (23)           | relationship (1)      | retained (2)          | 23;103:25;115:3,13,   |\n| Q                     | 7:22;9:23;11:21;      | 14:13                 | 55:22;56:4            | 16,20                 |\n|                       | 18:11;28:20;43:17;    | Release (7)           | review (28)           | Sanft (3)             |\n| Qiang (64)            | 56:8;72:24;73:4;      | 56:19,24;57:5;60:4,   | 10:9;20:24;22:12;     | 45:15;80:19;82:7      |\n| 11:18;12:23,25;       | 74:22;75:3;78:11;     | 16;69:3,9             | 44:25;53:10;55:9,19;  | S-A-N-F-T (1)         |\n| 13:4,12,13,24;15:23;  | 80:15;92:12;113:11;   | released (3)          | 56:17;60:15;63:11;    | 45:16                 |\n| 16:2,9,12;23:25;      | 115:24;116:2,5;       | 61:17;62:13;63:7      | 65:24;66:10;85:2;     | SARNOFF (2)           |\n| 28:22;32:11,11;       | 119:3,5;124:21;       | remember (5)          | 86:5;103:9;109:7;     | 86:4;124:18           |\n| 34:14;36:11;37:5,13,  | 125:11,12             | 13:20;14:17,24;       | 116:9;117:2;118:5;    | Satisfaction (10)     |\n| 25;38:4,10,12,17,24;  | records (17)          | 15:4;117:23           | 120:12;121:16;        | 56:19,24;57:5,9;      |\n| 39:23;40:20,23;41:8,  | 11:16;35:22,25;       | removed (1)           | 122:13;123:3,11,15;   | 64:3,25;69:3,9,11,16  |\n| 22;42:5;43:21;52:4;   | 36:8,10,15;40:7;      | 59:22                 | 124:6,8,12            | satisfied (1)         |\n|                       |                       |                       |                       |                       |\n| 54:3;70:7;71:12,20;   | 61:19;120:17;121:8,   | replaced (1)          | reviewed (31)         | 67:23                 |\n| 72:5;78:24;79:15,25;  | 10;122:4,18;123:12,   | 33:18                 | 11:14,16;21:11;       | saw (2)               |\n| 83:25;84:7,16,21;     | 16;124:9,13           | reporter (2)          | 23:17;28:11;29:20;    | 121:5,6               |\n| 88:23;94:19,24;       | refer (4)             | 7:17,24               | 30:15,23;31:17;       | saying (2)            |\n| 95:25;96:4;99:17,24;  | 8:15;9:3;28:21;       | representation (1)    | 32:17,22;33:5;38:13;  | 107:11;116:8          |\n| 100:6;103:20;104:14;  | 61:6                  | 61:3                  | 39:6,14;44:17;45:3;   | scope (5)             |\n| 112:4,8,12;114:12;    | referenced (1)        | representative (9)    | 47:21,25;48:7;52:19;  | 63:15;65:11;113:8;    |\n| 115:9;117:6,18,20,24  | 96:8                  | 8:9;9:16;10:3;        | 53:18;57:10,24;       | 115:7;118:19          |\n| Qiang's (7)           | references (1)        | 12:10,19;14:2;46:24;  | 95:13;97:5;102:3;     | sealing (1)           |\n| 66:5;79:10,18;        | 107:8                 | 77:24;78:15           | 116:18;121:2,9,25     | 6:5                   |\n| 84:11;104:2,5,11      | referencing (1)       | representatives (1)   | reviewing (3)         | second (1)            |\n|                       | 117:5                 | 42:17                 | 42:14;43:20;120:15    | 114:7                 |\n| R                     | referred (2)          | represented (5)       | right (39)            | secretarial (2)       |\n|                       | 105:16;120:14         | 90:16,19;92:6,22;     | 8:13;17:8,9;22:14;    | 27:23;28:6            |\n| rather (1)            | referring (16)        | 104:23                | 29:4;30:8;53:8;61:16; | secretary (1)         |\n|                       |                       |                       |                       |                       |\n| 119:11                | 8:20;15:19;18:21;     | representing (3)      | 62:16;64:5;67:5,12;   | 33:11                 |\n| read (2)              | 27:12;28:16,21,22,23; | 113:2;114:2,5         | 70:4;77:9,14;83:9;    | Section (7)           |\n| 22:8;125:8            | 42:23;60:25;76:15;    | request (9)           | 85:8,15;86:10;90:17;  | 23:5;56:20,25;        |\n| reading (1)           | 85:7;103:7;105:12,    | 42:24;71:4,10,15,     | 97:2;104:3,15,19;     | 105:6;109:15,17;      |\n| 22:9                  | 15;123:8              | 19,21;72:7,9;73:11    | 105:12,17,20;106:5,9, | 110:18                |\n| reads (1)             | refers (3)            | require (1)           | 15,21,25;107:4,12,17, | security (2)          |\n| 75:21                 | 80:11,25;85:10        | 110:10                | 18,23;108:9;110:12    | 51:20;54:6            |\n| real (13)             | reflected (10)        | reserved (1)          | right-hand (1)        | seeing (12)           |\n| 24:9,13,16,18,20,     | 25:25;30:16;32:18,    | 6:10                  | 103:21                | 43:23;72:5;117:23;    |\n| 25;42:19;75:23;76:9;  | 24;39:7,13;61:22;     | resided (1)           | role (20)             | 120:4;121:22;122:3,   |\n| 83:6,12,15;84:15      | 95:12;97:4;102:2      | 79:6                  | 16:25;17:4,14,16,     | 17;123:12,16;124:4,9, |\n| really (3)            | reflects (3)          | residence (12)        | 18,21,23;18:5,7,12,   | 13                    |\n| 42:2;56:10;101:11     | 18:11;22:18;114:18    | 14:19;15:7,15;26:7;   | 20,25;19:2,5,8;37:7;  | sell (1)              |\n| reason (11)           | refresh (1)           | 50:3;51:22;72:2;79:5, | 38:21;95:7;113:25;    | 50:3                  |\n|                       | 85:21                 | 10,19;102:12;106:25   | 118:5                 | sense (1)             |\n| 9:11;21:24;22:19;     |                       |                       |                       |                       |\n| 23:13;45:11;64:10;    | regarding (3)         | residences (1)        | room (3)              | 101:10                |\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 138 of 140\n\n**DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019**\n\n| sentence (4)<br>22:11;58:25;75:21;       | 33:20<br>showing (1) |  |\n|------------------------------------------|----------------------|--|\n| 80:22                                    | 85:23                |  |\n| sequential (1)                           | shown (1)            |  |\n| 20:15                                    | 56:2                 |  |\n| service (4)                              | shows (1)            |  |\n| 35:9,17;36:13;98:2                       | 85:6                 |  |\n| services (3)                             | side (2)             |  |\n| 27:21,23;28:6                            | 103:15,21            |  |\n| set (2)                                  | signature (9)        |  |\n| 116:11;120:23                            | 21:13,14,19,25;      |  |\n| several (5)                              | 45:7;103:15,22;      |  |\n| 25:9,12;43:23;                           | 104:2,6              |  |\n| 78:12;106:19                             | signatures (1)       |  |\n| shall (1)                                | 104:11               |  |\n| 6:10                                     | signed (12)          |  |\n| share (4)                                | 6:14,16;15:14;       |  |\n| 29:16;30:7;39:20;                        | 42:15,21,24;43:24;   |  |\n| 78:13                                    | 104:14,17;117:25;    |  |\n| shareholder (12)                         | 118:9;125:20         |  |\n| 28:14;30:21;31:5,                        | signing (1)          |  |\n| 18;59:4;66:18;67:11;<br>94:6;95:3;99:23; | 41:20<br>sit (1)     |  |\n| 112:22;113:4                             | 44:2                 |  |\n| shareholders (3)                         | sitting (2)          |  |\n| 31:8;39:22;94:11                         | 77:25;78:4           |  |\n| shares (30)                              | situated (2)         |  |\n| 29:23,23;30:14,18;                       | 106:19;107:8         |  |\n| 32:15,20;48:21,22,25;                    | six (2)              |  |\n| 50:24,25;51:3,4,5,8,                     | 58:23;62:5           |  |\n| 13,17,19,24;53:22,25;                    | sleep (1)            |  |\n| 54:5,14;76:13;77:12,                     | 80:4                 |  |\n| 20;78:17;100:10;                         | slept (1)            |  |\n| 101:24;111:10                            | 79:25                |  |\n| Sherry (7)                               | slower (1)           |  |\n| 42:13;43:14;71:24;                       | 64:23                |  |\n| 78:13;92:24;96:9;                        | SN74 (1)             |  |\n| 101:14                                   | 114:8                |  |\n| Sherry-Netherland (83)                   | sold (2)             |  |\n| 14:20;15:9,13;                           | 48:3;101:20          |  |\n| 24:14;25:14;26:7;                        | sole (31)            |  |\n| 31:23;32:7,13;42:18;                     | 28:14;30:20,25;      |  |\n| 50:3;68:20;70:21;                        | 31:5;32:25;44:5,10;  |  |\n| 71:5,7,11,14,23;                         | 45:5;46:12;59:4;     |  |\n| 72:10,15;73:12,16,20;                    | 66:17,18;67:11,12;   |  |\n| 74:2;76:2,8,12,14,17,                    | 80:11,13,16;81:3,7,  |  |\n| 20;77:8,12,20;78:17,                     | 10,18;84:17,18;94:5, |  |\n| 25;79:9,18;80:2;                         | 12;95:2,3,20,22;     |  |\n| 82:11,18,25;83:16,20;                    | 99:22,23             |  |\n| 84:3,6,11,13,20;<br>86:18;87:6,12,18,23, | someone (1)<br>71:24 |  |\n| 25;88:12;89:11;90:9;                     | somewhere (2)        |  |\n| 91:24;93:14;97:13,                       | 15:7;53:11           |  |\n| 20;98:7,15,25;100:11,                    | son (13)             |  |\n| 16,24;101:18,25;                         | 12:24;13:7;15:21,    |  |\n| 102:12;106:20;107:9;                     | 24;24:2;28:23;32:11; |  |\n| 108:15,20;109:3,9;                       | 70:23;71:7,12;73:13; |  |\n| 111:23;112:20,22;                        | 84:2;99:13           |  |\n| 113:4;114:3;118:12,                      | Sorry (10)           |  |\n| 16                                       | 13:5;26:19;57:6;     |  |\n| Sherry-Netherland's (1)                  | 62:6;65:21;72:23;    |  |\n| 68:13                                    | 74:17;103:16;109:17; |  |\n\n 24;24:2;28:23;32:11; 70:23;71:7,12;73:13; 74:17;103:16;109:17; **sound (1)** 92:3 **sounds (1)** 53:10 **speak (2)** 12:25;13:7 **special (5)** 105:19,24;106:18, 24;107:7 **specific (3)** 14:25;19:3;42:4 **specifically (3)** 41:6;72:11;113:16 **specify (1)** 26:16 **speculate (3)** 32:4;40:11;52:14 **speculating (4)** 31:25;40:9;52:14; 79:13 **speculation (1)** 108:24 **spent (4)** 27:21;42:7;87:14, 24 **spoke (7)** 11:18,18,19;13:14; 15:10;16:5;70:8 **Spring (9)** 88:16,18,19,21,25; 89:15,17;90:8;100:14 **SPV (10)** 105:17,19,25; 106:4,15;107:6,12,22; 110:3,4 **ss (1)** 125:4 **stamp (4)** 75:8;121:14; 122:25;123:19 **Stamped (4)** 20:7,22;29:8;44:23 **stamps (4)** 19:24;119:15,25; 122:11 **stands (1)** 105:19 **start (3)** 10:15;12:7;119:2 **starts (2)** 58:17,25 **State (6)** 7:8;46:6;85:3,4; 125:3,25 **statement (9)** 59:24;60:9,11,18, 20,25;61:9,13;75:24 **statements (1)** 118:11 **States (2)** 24:19;25:2 **stayed (1)** 115:3\n\n**Stevenson (6)** 112:15,18;113:2, 24,25;114:8 **still (7)** 34:10,11,12;38:12; 61:23;67:11;109:16 **STIPULATED (3)** 6:3,8,12 **STIPULATIONS (1)** 6:1 **stock (1)** 99:6 **Stone (3)** 93:2,3,6 **stop (1)** 38:17 **stopped (1)** 34:7 **strike (11)** 35:14;37:22;38:7; 44:14;50:12;68:6; 78:23;79:16,24; 97:14;101:3 **structure (2)** 14:9,11 **submitted (1)** 75:7 **subscribed (1)** 125:20 **subtracted (2)** 25:22;87:2 **sued (1)** 91:23 **suggesting (1)** 111:16 **Support (2)** 7:15,19 **Supreme (1)** 7:8 **Sure (14)** 12:4;15:12;19:23; 40:2;43:17;58:20; 66:17;72:24;73:6; 82:5;92:15;98:16; 113:18;119:6 **swear (1)** 7:24 **sworn (3)** 6:14;8:2;75:8 **system (2)** 85:5;123:6 **T talk (1)** 114:19 **talked (2)** 72:21;73:10 **talking (6)** 9:7;38:9;48:18,18; 69:12;120:7 **tape (2)** 74:21;75:2 **telephone (1)** 13:9\n\n**terms (2)** 29:3;63:15 **terrace (1)** 92:2 **Territory (1)** 23:3 **testified (11)** 8:3;18:6;50:10; 53:20;64:2;66:4;67:3, 9,21;75:17;76:16 **testify (6)** 10:20;11:4,8;17:7, 11;67:25 **testimony (15)** 9:12;12:9;14:2; 16:6;18:8,15;24:17; 57:17;65:4;66:16; 67:8;75:18;84:9; 125:8,11 **third (5)** 59:9;81:22;110:19, 23,24 **though (1)** 95:2 **thought (2)** 24:18;42:15 **three (5)** 58:23;74:21;104:7, 10,11 **times (1)** 62:5 **title (2)** 15:12;23:3 **today (47)** 7:17,20;8:16;9:13; 10:21;11:5;12:9,19; 21:11;23:17;26:3; 27:3;28:3,12;29:20; 30:24;31:18;32:17, 23;33:5;38:14,16; 45:4;47:22;48:2,8; 52:20;53:19;56:2; 57:11,25;74:18; 75:13;77:25;78:15; 95:13;102:3;109:13; 111:21;114:20;116:8; 119:10;120:3,14; 121:9,23;124:3 **today's (6)** 7:12;39:14;97:5; 115:21;121:3;124:20 **together (1)** 20:11 **told (5)** 13:20,24;15:6;19:4; 85:22 **took (2)** 64:11,13 **top (7)** 29:8;35:24;59:13; 71:16;105:8;123:4,22\n\n**short (1)**\n\n111:4\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 139 of 140\n\n| topic (1)<br>17:9                            | 24:15;25:13;31:22;<br>32:5;51:21 | W                                 | Y                                             | Zhang (11)<br>31:20;32:5,7,14,20;      |\n|----------------------------------------------|----------------------------------|-----------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|\n| topics (10)                                  | under (4)                        |                                   |                                               | 51:16,18;52:21,23;                     |\n| 10:18,21,25;11:5,9,                          | 22:4;29:9;110:11;                | waived (1)                        | Yan (1)                                       | 95:7,10                                |\n| 15;12:12,19;13:17;<br>14:6                   | 125:9<br>underneath (1)          | 6:7                               | 75:6                                          | 0                                      |\n| total (1)                                    | 21:18                            | Wan (6)<br>7:7;21:18,20;45:7;     | year (3)<br>64:11;65:5;89:7                   |                                        |\n| 30:6                                         | undersigned (2)                  | 112:21;114:12                     | years (1)                                     | 001 (3)                                |\n| transaction (1)                              | 22:3,13                          | WANG (8)                          | 91:24                                         | 29:24;30:2,3                           |\n| 49:21                                        | Understood (2)                   | 3:13;11:19;13:11;                 | yes-or-no (1)                                 | 07960 (1)                              |\n| transcript (2)<br>125:8,10                   | 12:4;73:2<br>United (2)          | 16:6;17:13;18:22;                 | 93:21                                         | 3:6                                    |\n| transfer (5)                                 | 24:19;25:2                       | 19:4;118:5                        | York (172)                                    | 1                                      |\n| 71:5,11,13;73:11;                            | units (1)                        | Wang's (5)<br>16:25;17:4;18:12;   | 7:9,9;8:16,20;9:17;<br>10:4,10;11:8,17;       |                                        |\n| 115:19                                       | 106:19                           | 75:6,6                            | 13:19;14:8,10,12,14,                          | 1 (9)                                  |\n| transferred (1)                              | unless (1)                       | way (6)                           | 16,20;15:8,16;16:21,                          | 9:15,25;10:2,9,15;                     |\n| 112:8                                        | 110:4                            | 29:2;50:6;63:25;                  | 21;17:2,8,14,16,18,                           | 17:9;56:3;109:16;                      |\n| transferring (2)<br>70:13;72:13              | unofficial (3)<br>17:23;18:4,20  | 101:3;102:6;112:11                | 22,24;18:8,13,21,25;                          | 110:17<br>1,000 (1)                    |\n| transfers (1)                                | unrelated (1)                    | weeks (1)                         | 19:6,10,13;24:11;                             | 29:23                                  |\n| 73:14                                        | 59:9                             | 90:17<br>Wei (11)                 | 26:6,10;43:7,19;44:6,<br>11,14,16;46:2,5,6,6, | 10 (2)                                 |\n| trial (1)                                    | up (6)                           | 31:20;32:5,7,14,20;               | 13;47:4,8,11,15,20,                           | 112:14,18                              |\n| 6:11                                         | 24:15;30:11;32:12;               | 51:16,18;52:21,23;                | 24;48:4,20;49:7,9;                            | 100 (2)                                |\n| true (18)                                    | 84:12;90:16;123:4                | 95:7,10                           | 50:2,6;51:2,9,10;                             | 51:5;115:10                            |\n| 21:7,12;29:18;                               | USA (1)                          | Weiss (3)                         | 56:15;63:11;71:6;                             | 11 (1)                                 |\n| 55:17,25;57:7;59:24;<br>60:12,20;61:14;66:8; | 59:7<br>US-based (2)             | 45:19;82:4,5                      | 72:14;73:15;74:4;                             | 7:13<br>12 (3)                         |\n| 69:15;73:19;74:9;                            | 24:8,10                          | welcome (1)                       | 76:10;77:13;80:12,                            | 45:6;69:10;85:24                       |\n| 75:24;112:5;125:10,                          | used (1)                         | 20:5<br>weren't (1)               | 14;81:4,8,11;82:8,9,<br>16,24;83:8,11,14,18;  | 12th (1)                               |\n| 12                                           | 100:19                           | 116:20                            | 84:10,19;85:3,8,11,                           | 21:2                                   |\n| trust (7)                                    | using (1)                        | What's (2)                        | 11,17;86:9,16,23;                             | 13 (3)                                 |\n| 73:17;102:9,17;                              | 29:3                             | 83:24;101:4                       | 87:4,10,14,24;88:4,                           | 23:20;86:7,9                           |\n| 103:2,6,10;108:2<br>trustee (10)             | V                                | who's (2)                         | 17,18;89:5,10,16,18,                          | 14 (1)<br>66:2                         |\n| 107:21,25;109:15,                            |                                  | 36:9;95:24                        | 22;90:3,11,15,22;                             | 145 (1)                                |\n| 17,22,24;110:19,22,                          | value (2)                        | Whose (6)<br>48:22;71:18;         | 91:23;92:5;93:4;94:6,<br>10,13,21;95:8,11,14, | 86:3                                   |\n| 22;111:7                                     | 29:24;30:6                       | 100:14;103:15,19,22               | 18;96:3,10,15,18,21,                          | 15 (2)                                 |\n| truthful (1)                                 | various (4)                      | Williams (2)                      | 24;97:7,22;98:5,9;                            | 58:20;75:8                             |\n| 9:12                                         | 20:2,16;42:15,21                 | 45:19;82:4                        | 99:3,9,15,18,25;                              | 16 (9)                                 |\n| try (6)<br>13:6;60:7,19;62:20;               | vehicle (5)                      | within (6)                        | 100:7,8,14,20;101:2,                          | 59:14;60:12,23;                        |\n| 73:7;79:23                                   | 105:20,25;106:18,<br>24;107:7    | 6:13;20:2;83:9;                   | 6,16,20;102:5,10;                             | 61:15,25;62:11;63:3;<br>75:7,9         |\n| trying (1)                                   | versus (1)                       | 120:16;121:8;122:4<br>witness (6) | 104:18;105:16;106:4,<br>9,15,17,23;107:16;    | 165 (2)                                |\n| 62:22                                        | 7:7                              | 7:25;8:2;32:3;                    | 108:8,8,14;113:12,15,                         | 56:20,25                               |\n| turn (2)                                     | via (1)                          | 40:11;43:5;52:13                  | 20;116:11;117:19,22;                          | 17 (10)                                |\n| 74:3,4                                       | 51:17                            | Wong (5)                          | 118:2,6;120:13;                               | 57:6,18,22;59:23;                      |\n| two (10)                                     | vice (1)                         | 112:15,19;113:2,                  | 121:7,11;122:5,19;                            | 61:18;62:13;63:8;                      |\n| 8:9;13:16;16:17;<br>20:17;26:23;37:19;       | 15:11<br>Videographer (8)        | 25;114:8                          | 123:24;124:9                                  | 85:12;86:10;103:11<br>176 (1)          |\n| 58:22;75:2;93:8;                             | 3:14;7:3;9:22;                   | Wong's (1)                        | York's (18)                                   | 20:20                                  |\n| 107:23                                       | 74:20,25;115:25;                 | 113:25<br>word (1)                | 68:19;77:24;78:15;<br>81:11,19,19;89:19;      | 178 (1)                                |\n| type (1)                                     | 116:4;124:19                     | 19:7                              | 90:7;91:4,18;94:7,14;                         | 84:23                                  |\n| 42:7                                         | videotaped (1)                   | words (2)                         | 97:14,18;98:17,18;                            | 18th (11)                              |\n| typewritten (1)                              | 7:4                              | 21:19;93:12                       | 102:16;123:11                                 | 76:24;77:4,21;                         |\n| 21:20<br>typically (1)                       | violation (1)<br>68:18           | work (1)                          | young (2)                                     | 78:18,25;82:18;<br>97:15,19;106:20,25; |\n| 35:2                                         | Virgin (4)                       | 55:15                             | 84:8,21                                       | 107:8                                  |\n|                                              | 22:5;23:4;34:25;                 | writes (1)<br>114:8               | YVETTE (7)<br>3:13;11:19;13:11;               | 194 (2)                                |\n| U                                            | 98:19                            | written (10)                      | 16:6;18:22;75:6;                              | 20:8;44:23                             |\n|                                              | virtue (2)                       | 7:21;44:22;45:5,22;               | 118:5                                         |                                        |\n| UBS (2)                                      | 51:7;59:6                        | 46:11;50:4;110:5,10;              |                                               | 2                                      |\n| 40:8,12                                      | visited (1)                      | 111:8,16                          | Z                                             |                                        |\n| ultimately (5)                               | 79:21                            |                                   |                                               | 2 (37)                                 |\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. VS. KWOK HO WAN** Case 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 140 of 140\n\n| 9:19;10:2,4,11,24;    | 120:6,19,20,23,24,25 |\n|-----------------------|----------------------|\n|                       |                      |\n| 26:21;50:20,24;51:5,  | 4:25 (1)             |\n| 13,24;52:18,21;53:2,  | 74:23                |\n| 5,12;55:11;56:3;      | 4:38 (1)             |\n| 57:17,23;59:9,18,22;  | 75:3                 |\n| 61:5,16,25;62:11,13;  |                      |\n| 63:3,6;73:10;75:20;   | 5                    |\n| 102:22;105:7,23;      |                      |\n| 110:10;111:11         | 5 (3)                |\n|                       |                      |\n| 2:59 (1)              | 56:18,22;121:14      |\n| 9:23                  | 5:27 (1)             |\n| 2004 (2)              | 116:2                |\n| 23:5;29:10            | 5:36 (1)             |\n| 2015 (32)             | 116:5                |\n| 21:3;23:21;37:10,     | 5:46 (2)             |\n|                       |                      |\n| 12,14,24,25;38:5,15;  | 124:21,23            |\n| 45:6;53:8;55:12;59:5; | 50 (6)               |\n| 61:5;79:14,15,17,21;  | 112:6,9;114:11,12,   |\n| 80:2;85:12;86:7,9,10; | 17;115:12            |\n| 87:5;100:6;103:11;    | 543 (2)              |\n| 111:22;112:3,15,19;   | 103:17;110:18        |\n| 114:17;115:4          | 544 (1)              |\n|                       |                      |\n| 2017 (9)              | 103:25               |\n| 57:6,18,22;59:23;     | 545 (1)              |\n| 61:18;62:14;63:8;     | 104:5                |\n| 64:18;65:2            | 55 (1)               |\n| 2018 (17)             | 3:5                  |\n| 59:14;60:12,23;       |                      |\n| 61:15,22,25;62:11;    | 6                    |\n| 63:3;66:2;69:10;75:7; |                      |\n|                       |                      |\n| 88:10;89:5,8,12,23;   | 6 (5)                |\n| 90:4                  | 58:2,8;110:18;       |\n| 2019 (1)              | 122:9,20             |\n| 7:13                  | 60,000 (1)           |\n| 20-year-old (1)       | 101:14               |\n| 71:25                 | 652077/2017 (1)      |\n|                       |                      |\n| 21 (1)                | 7:10                 |\n| 55:12                 |                      |\n| 24 (2)                | 7                    |\n| 74:15;75:12           |                      |\n|                       | 7 (5)                |\n| 3                     | 23:5;65:15,18,22;    |\n|                       |                      |\n|                       | 122:25               |\n| 3 (17)                | 781 (1)              |\n| 17:9;20:6,10,12,13;   | 97:11                |\n| 44:20;56:3,11,13;     |                      |\n| 80:6;84:24;86:4;      | 8                    |\n| 106:14;109:15,17;     |                      |\n| 119:11,11             | 8 (4)                |\n|                       |                      |\n| 3.4 (1)               | 69:2,5;123:19,22     |\n| 109:24                |                      |\n| 30 (1)                | 9                    |\n| 58:20                 |                      |\n| 30b6 (4)              | 9 (6)                |\n| 11:24;65:11;113:8;    | 16:4;58:16,19,20;    |\n| 118:19                |                      |\n|                       | 102:25;103:5         |\n|                       | 914-760-8963 (1)     |\n| 4                     | 3:8                  |\n|                       |                      |\n| 4 (17)                |                      |\n| 55:3,7,20;56:3,9;     |                      |\n| 107:20;112:15,19;     |                      |\n| 114:16;115:3;119:24;  |                      |\n|                       |                      |","body_zh":"证物 23\n\nDANIEL PODHASKIE（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基） 2019年12月11日\n\n原始文件 293035B.txt Min-U-Script®，附词语索引 案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 3 页，共 140 页\n\n纽约州最高法院（SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK）\n纽约县（COUNTY OF NEW YORK）\n-----------------------------------------X\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业），\n原告，\n- 诉 -\nKWOK HO WAN（郭浩云），又名 KWOK HO（郭浩），又名 GWO WEN GUI（郭文贵），又名 GUO WENGUI（郭文贵），又名 GUO WEN-GUI（郭文贵），又名 WAN GUE HAOYUN（万贵浩云），又名 MILES KWOK（郭文贵），又名 HAOYUN GUO（郭浩云），\n被告。\n案卷索引号：652077/2017\n-----------------------------------------X\n\n605 Third Avenue\nNew York, New York\n2019年12月11日\n下午 2:56\n\nDANIEL PODHASKIE（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基）的审前录像证言询问，在纽约州速记员兼公证人 Melissa Gilmore（梅丽莎·吉尔莫尔）面前进行。\n\nELLEN GRAUER COURT REPORTING CO., LLC（艾伦·格劳尔法庭记录有限责任公司）\n126 East 56th Street, Fifth Floor\nNew York, New York 10022\n212-750-6434\n参考号：293035B\n\n出庭人员：\n\nO'MELVENY & MYERS LLP（奥美律师事务所）\n原告代理律师\n7 Times Square\nNew York, New York 10036\n代理律师：\nEDWARD MOSS, ESQ.（爱德华·莫斯，律师）\nSTUART SARNOFF, ESQ.（斯图尔特·萨诺夫，律师）\nELI A. GROSSMAN, ESQ.（伊莱·A·格罗斯曼，律师）\n电话 212-728-5651\n电子邮箱 emoss@omm.com\nssarnoff@omm.com\negrossman@omm.com\n\nHODGSON RUSS LLP（霍奇森·拉斯律师事务所）\n被告代理律师\n605 Third Avenue, Suite 2300\nNew York, New York 10158\n代理律师：\nJILLIAN MARIE SEARLES, ESQ.（吉莲·玛丽·西尔斯，律师）\n电话 646-218-7591\n电子邮箱 jsearles@hodgsonruss.com\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 5 页，共 140 页\n\n出庭人员：（续）\n\nLAWALL & MITCHELL, LLC（劳沃尔与米切尔有限责任公司）\nGenever Entities（Genever 实体）代理律师\n55 Madison Avenue\nMorristown, New Jersey 07960\n代理律师：AARON A. MITCHELL, ESQ.（亚伦·A·米切尔，律师）\n电话 914-760-8963\n电子邮箱 aaron@lmesq.com\n\n另有下列人员在场：\nYVETTE WANG（王悦），Genever\nDAN MACOM（丹·马科姆），录像员\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 6 页，共 140 页\n\n------------------- 目录 -------------------\n\n证人　询问人　页码\nDANIEL PODHASKIE　MOSS 律师　8\nMITCHELL 律师　119\n\n指示：第 91、93 页\n\n---------------- 证物 ----------------\nPODHASKIE　说明　供识别\n证物 1　Genever New York（Genever 纽约）公司代表的证言询问通知　9\n证物 2　Genever BVI（Genever 英属维尔京群岛）的证言询问通知　9\n证物 3　公司文件汇编，标有 Bates 编号 KWOK143 至 194　20\n证物 4　抵押登记证书　55\n证物 5　根据 Section 165 作出的已登记抵押清偿或解除通知　56\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 7 页，共 140 页\n\n------------ 证物（续） -----------\n\nPODHASKIE　说明\n供识别\n证物 6　被告反对原告申请审前扣押命令之动议的法律备忘录\n证物 7　抵押登记证书\n证物 8　已登记抵押清偿或解除通知\n证物 9　信托声明及协议\n证物 10　Stevenson Wong（史蒂文森·黄）于 March 4, 2015 出具的信函\n\n（证物将予提供）\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 8 页，共 140 页\n\n约定\n\n兹由本案各方律师约定并同意，放弃封存及提交。\n\n进一步约定并同意，除对问题形式提出的异议外，所有异议均保留至审判时提出。\n\n进一步约定并同意，本证言询问可在任何获授权主持宣誓的官员面前宣誓并签署，其效力与在法院面前签署相同。\n\n- oOo -\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 9 页，共 140 页\n\n程序\n\n录像员：这是原告在纽约州最高法院纽约县审理的 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. 诉 Wan 等案中，对 Daniel T. Podhaskie（丹尼尔·T·波德哈斯基）进行的录像证言询问。\n\n案卷索引号为 652077/2017。\n\n本次证言询问在 Hodgson Russ 的办公室举行，日期为 2019年12月11日。\n\n我叫 Dan Macom。我来自 Ellen Grauer，一家美国法律支持公司。\n\n今天的法庭记录员是 Melissa Gilmore 女士，也来自 Ellen Grauer，一家美国法律支持公司。\n\n今天到场的所有律师，其出庭信息将载入书面记录。\n\n此时我请法庭记录员为证人主持宣誓。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 10 页，共 140 页\n\nD A N I E L  P O D H A S K I E，经传唤作为证人，在公证人主持宣誓后，接受询问并作证如下：\n\n由 MOSS 律师询问：\n\n问：波德哈斯基先生，您今天作为两个实体的公司代表在此；正确吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：其中一个实体是 Genever Holdings, LLC（Genever 控股有限责任公司），对吗？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：我今天将把该实体称为 Genever New York。可以吗？\n\n答：可以。\n\n问：当我说 Genever New York 时，您会明白我指的是 Genever Holdings, LLC 吗？\n\n答：会。\n\n问：您代表出席的另一实体是 Genever Holdings Corporation BVI（Genever 控股公司英属维尔京群岛）；正确吗？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 11 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：是。\n\n问：我将把该实体称为 Genever BVI。可以吗？\n\n答：可以。\n\n问：您会明白，当我谈及 Genever BVI 时，我指的是 Genever Holdings Corporation 吗？\n\n答：会。\n\n问：谢谢。\n\n我假定没有任何理由使您不能在今天作出真实准确的证言？\n\n答：没有。\n\n（Podhaskie 证物 1，即 Genever New York 公司代表的证言询问通知，标记供识别。）\n\n（Podhaskie 证物 2，即 Genever BVI 的证言询问通知，标记供识别。）\n\n录像员：现已开始记录。时间为下午 2:59。\n\n问：波德哈斯基先生，我已向您递交我们标记为 Podhaskie 1 和\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 12 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nPodhaskie 2 的文件。第 1 号是 Genever New York 公司代表的证言询问通知，证物 2 是 Genever BVI 的证言询问通知。这——这正确吗？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：（审阅文件。）证物 1 是向 Genever New York 发出的证言询问通知，证物 2 是向 Genever BVI 发出的证言询问通知，二者均如您先前所界定。\n\n问：很好。谢谢。\n\n现在，请您看一下，我们可以从证物 1 开始。请看该证物的最后一页。\n\n您看到其中有五个证言询问议题吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您今天准备就这五个议题作证吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：请您看一下证物 2，该证物最后一页，您看到该页有五个证言询问议题吗\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 13 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n在该页上吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您今天准备就这五个证言询问议题作证吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您为就我们刚刚谈到的这些议题代表 Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 作证，做了什么准备？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n您可以回答。\n\n答：我审阅了每一份证言询问通知及其中指定的议题。我审阅了 Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 的公司记录。我与 Miles Kwok 交谈过。我与 Guo Qiang（郭强）交谈过，也与 Yvette Wang 交谈过。\n\nMITCHELL 律师：或许，为使记录明确，仅因波德哈斯基先生是一名律师，我当然会允许您询问他与这些人士进行的 30(b)(6)\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 14 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n讨论，但对于除此以外的任何事项，我将主张特权。\n\nMOSS 律师：当然。明白。\n\n这很有帮助。\n\n由 MOSS 律师询问：\n\n问：那么让我们从 Kwok 先生开始。就您作为公司代表为今天作证所作的准备而言，您与 Kwok 先生讨论了什么？\n\n答：我问他是否了解证言询问通知中列出的议题。\n\n问：他怎么说？\n\n答：他表示自己不会知道。\n\n问：关于您与 Kwok 先生的谈话，就您今天准备就公司代表议题作证而言，还有其他内容吗？\n\n答：我还和他谈了其他与此、准备有关的事情吗？除此以外，没有。\n\n问：Guo Qiang 是谁？\n\n答：他是 Kwok 先生的儿子。\n\n问：您与 Qiang 先生是通过\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 15 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n电话还是当面交谈？您是如何沟通的？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：为澄清起见，他的名字是 Qiang。\n\nMOSS 律师：抱歉。\n\n问：Guo 先生。让我重新问一遍。\n\n您与 Kwok 先生的儿子交谈时，是如何沟通的？\n\n答：通过电话。\n\n问：谁给谁打电话？\n\n答：当时我与 Yvette Wang 在一起，是她给 Guo Qiang 打电话。\n\n问：您与 Guo Qiang 交谈时，他位于何处？\n\n答：我相信他在英国。\n\n问：你们二人讨论了什么？\n\n答：我们讨论了通知中列明的证言询问议题，以及 Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 两者的公司手续。\n\n问：您记得他告诉过您什么吗？\n\n答：记得。\n\n问：您能否仅就 Guo Qiang 在那次谈话中为您准备公司代表\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 16 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n证言而告诉您的内容，说明您所能作出的最佳回忆？\n\n答：我有多少时间？\n\n问：您需要多少时间就有多少时间。\n\n答：嗯，我们逐一讨论了每个议题。我们讨论了 Genever BVI 和 Genever New York 两者的设立及经营目的。我们讨论了 Genever BVI 和 Genever New York 两者的公司及所有权结构。我们讨论了 Genever BVI 和 Genever New York 两者的人员管理及组织结构。我们讨论了 Genever BVI 与 Kwok 先生及 Genever New York 的关系。我们还讨论了目前由 Genever BVI 和 Genever New York 两者持有的资产。\n\n问：您还记得其他内容吗？\n\n答：我认为我们简要讨论了购买纽约 The Sherry-Netherland Hotel（谢里-内德兰酒店）住所一事。\n\n问：您记得有关该讨论的任何内容吗？\n\n答：记得。\n\n问：您能告诉我您记得什么吗？\n\n答：您所指的任何具体内容\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 17 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n在寻找什么？\n\n问：您说那是一次简短的谈话。请说说您记得的有关那次简短谈话的任何事情。\n\n答：他告诉我，他们正在寻求在——您知道——纽约某处购买一处住所，而且他与其父亲一同参加了与 The Sherry-Netherland（谢里-内德兰酒店）的会议；您知道，他参加了许多会议，与 The Sherry-Netherland 的总裁——或副总裁，我不确定其职务名称——交谈过。他代表 Genever New York（Genever纽约公司）签署了一些购买该住所的申请表，我想大概就是这些。\n\n问：您说他们正在寻求购买住所时，您所指的“他们”是谁？\n\n答：郭氏家族。\n\n问：是 Kwok（郭文贵）先生和他的儿子，还是范围更广？\n\n答：具体而言，是郭强，Kwok 先生的儿子。\n\n问：您何时与郭强交谈？\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 18 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：我相信是刚过去的星期一，12月9日。\n\n问：您说您还与 Yvette Wang（王伊薇特）女士交谈，以准备您的证言；对吗？\n\n答：我与郭强交谈时，她在场。\n\n问：除在您与郭强交谈时在场之外，您是否与她有过其他交谈？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：与准备本次证言记录有关？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：请问您二人讨论了什么？\n\n答：我想我们讨论了 Genever 的地址，以及谁负责维持——Genever New York 是否在纽约设有办事处，也就是 Genever New York；Genever BVI（Genever英属维尔京群岛公司）也是如此。\n\n问：还有其他内容吗？\n\n答：没有。我想就是这些。\n\n问：王女士在 Genever New York 担任什么职务？\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 19 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：王女士在 Genever BVI 担任什么职务？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：那么，您已准备就 Genever New York 的人员情况作证，对吗？那是附件1中的主题3；对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您准备就此作证吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：您没有问王女士她在 Genever New York 担任什么职务？\n\n答：我认为您假定她在 Genever New York 担任某种职务。\n\n问：您是否问过她是否在 Genever New York 担任某种职务？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：她告诉您什么？\n\n答：她在 Genever New York 没有任何正式职务。\n\n问：她在 Genever New York 是否有任何非正式职务？\n\nMITCHELL（米切尔）律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。您可以回答。\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 20 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：您所说的“非正式职务”是什么意思？\n\n问：那么，您作证说您不知道她是否在 Genever New York 担任某种职务。这——这是您的证言吗？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：如果记录是这样反映的。\n\n问：我问您，王女士在 Genever New York 担任什么职务，您回答说，我不知道。您记得该证言吗？\n\n答：记得。\n\n问：那准确吗？\n\n答：准确。\n\n问：好的。您是否知道她在 Genever New York 是否担任任何职务，无论正式或非正式？我所说的“她”是指 Yvette Wang。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：您是否问过她是否在 Genever New York 担任某种职务？\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：您所说的“职务”是什么意思？您能否更具体一些？\n\n问：我问您王女士告诉了您什么，您回答说，她在 Genever New York 没有任何正式职务。您所说的“职务”一词是什么意思？\n\n答：她并非 Genever New York 的雇员。\n\n问：她是否就 Genever New York 负有任何职责、责任，或与其存在任何关联？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：您没有问她？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：我们——我们把重点放在 Genever BVI 上。Podhaskie 先生，我将向您出示一组公司文件，该等文件由本案中的——Genever 实体之一向我们提供，我不确定是哪一家，但上面有 Kwok Bates 编号戳记；我将——我将请您注意其中的各种文件。如果您认为需要查阅其他文件以回答问题，或者您想翻阅这些文件，完全可以。\n\n（Podhaskie 证物3，公司文件汇编，Bates 编号 KWOK143 至 194，标记以供识别。）\n\nMITCHELL 律师：您是将此标记为 Podhaskie 3 吗？\n\nMOSS（莫斯）律师：是，我将其一并标记为3。\n\n问：那么，Podhaskie 先生，如我所述，证物3是一份文件汇编。它们按连续 Bates 编号排列，为 KWOK143 至 KWOK194。它们是与两个 Genever 实体有关的各种公司文件。因此，我想请您注意第——Bates 页码176。该文件标题为“确定董事决议日期的授权书”，其 Bates 编号为 KWOK176。您能识别该文件吗？\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 22 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：（审阅文件。）其标题为“确定董事决议日期的授权书”，看起来其生效日期为 2015 年 2 月 12 日。\n\n问：它与 Genever BVI 实体有关？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：就您所能判断，这是否是该《确定董事决议日期的授权书》的真实、正确副本？\n\n答：根据我为今天作准备时审阅的文件，这看起来是真实且准确的。\n\n问：那么——底部的那个签名，是 Kwok 先生的签名吗？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：Kwok Ho Wan，您看到签名栏下方打印有“Kwok Ho Wan”字样吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：那是 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您是否有任何理由认为那不是他的签名？\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 24 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：这里写道：“签署人正在依据英属维尔京群岛法律成立一家公司，该公司名为 Genever Holdings Corporation（Genever控股公司），即本公司。”我读得对吗？\n\n答：您是在读第一段的开头吗？\n\n问：是，第一句话。\n\n答：（审阅文件。）是。\n\n问：签署人是 Kwok 先生；对吗？\n\n答：正确。正确。\n\n问：Kwok 先生成立了 Genever Holdings Corporation，对吗？\n\n答：这是该文件所反映的内容。\n\n问：您没有任何理由认为这份从 Kwok 先生或 Genever 文件中提供的文件不准确，对吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：请看一下，Podhaskie 先生，KWOK145 页。\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 25 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n问：您能识别这份文件吗——其标题为“英属维尔京群岛领地法、2004年《英属维尔京群岛公司法》、公司注册证书、第7条，适用于 Genever Holdings Corporation”。您能识别它吗？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：能。这看起来是 Genever BVI 的公司注册证书副本。\n\n问：您是否有任何理由认为该文件不真实或不准确？\n\n答：根据我为今天作准备时审阅的文件，这看起来是一份准确的副本。\n\n问：Genever BVI 于 2015 年 2 月 13 日在英属维尔京群岛注册成立，这是否正确？\n\n答：是，我相信这是正确的。\n\n问：除 Kwok 先生之外，谁参与成立了 Genever BVI？\n\n答：郭强。\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 26 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n问：那是 Kwok 先生的儿子？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：还有其他人吗？\n\n答：据我所知，没有。\n\n问：为何成立 Genever BVI？\n\n答：最初成立它，是为了拥有一家将购买房地产的美国公司。\n\n问：该美国公司是 Genever New York 吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：该房地产是 The Sherry-Netherland Hotel（谢里-内德兰酒店）的公寓吗？\n\n答：那最终成为 Genever 购买的房地产。\n\n问：那么，您的证言是，当时有购买美国某些房地产的想法，但他们只是不知道该房地产究竟会是什么？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。您可以回答。\n\n答：他们想投资美国房地产，但不知道会购买哪项资产，或会在何处购买。\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 27 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n问：在成立时的计划是购买一项——您说的是他们会购买哪项资产。在成立时的计划是购买一项资产还是数项资产？\n\n答：我不知道该计划是什么。我知道他们看过数处不同的房产，最终选择了 The Sherry-Netherland。\n\n问：自成立时的目的以来，Genever BVI 的目的是否发生变化？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。您可以回答。\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：没有增加或减少任何目的？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：这并未从我为今天作准备时审阅的文件和进行的谈话中反映出来。\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 28 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n问：Genever BVI 从事过什么业务？\n\n答：它拥有 Genever New York，而后者拥有 The Sherry-Netherland 的住所。\n\n问：除拥有 Genever New York 外，Genever BVI 是否从事过其他业务？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否曾订立任何合同？\n\n答：您所说的合同，能否更具体一些？我认为答案是肯定的。\n\n问：好的。您能详细说明吗？\n\n答：它订立了——抱歉——Genever BVI 与名为 Roscalitar 2 的实体以及名为 Blue Capital Limited（蓝色资本有限公司）的实体订立了质押协议。\n\n问：除这两份质押协议外，Genever BVI 是否订立过任何合同？\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：根据我为今天作准备时审阅的文件和进行的谈话，没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否有银行账户？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否曾向任何其他个人或实体支付过任何款项？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：您所说的“任何其他个人或实体”，是指谁？\n\n问：除 Genever BVI 以外的任何个人或实体。\n\n答：Genever BVI 是否曾向除 Genever BVI 以外的任何其他个人或实体支付过任何款项？\n\n问：对，向任何人。它是否曾产生需要支付款项的债务？它是否曾开具支票？它是否曾为任何商品或服务花费款项？\n\n答：它在英属维尔京群岛聘请了一名注册代理人，并向其支付秘书服务费用。\n\n问：除此之外呢？\n\n答：没有，根据——我没有看到这种情况。\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1604-23，提交日期 03/27/23，录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10，第 30 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件以及进行的谈话。\n\n问：您知道支付注册代理人提供公司秘书服务的款项来自何处吗？\n\n答：我相信来自 Bravo Luck（好运公司）。\n\n问：Genever BVI（Genever英属维尔京群岛公司）是否曾从任何个人或实体收到过任何款项？\n\n答：没有，我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件中并未显示这一点。\n\n问：在 Genever BVI 成立时，Kwok 先生是否为其唯一股东？\n\n答：是。您所说的 Kwok 先生，是指 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）吗？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：为明确记录起见，感谢您提及这一点；当我提到 Kwok 先生时，我指的是 Miles Kwok。当我提到 Guo Qiang（郭强）时，我指的是 Kwok 先生的儿子。这样可以吗？\n\n答：可以。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 31 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n问：在本次证言记录过程中，您一直是以这种方式使用这些称谓的，对吗？\n\n答：是的。可以。\n\n问：请您看下一页，Podhaskie 先生，即加盖 Bates 编号 KWOK147 的一页。页首写着“根据 BVI Business Companies Act 2004（《2004年英属维尔京群岛商业公司法》）注册成立”，中间写着“Genever Holdings Corporation（Genever控股公司）”。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：请您确认这份文件是什么？\n\n答：这似乎是 Genever BVI 的股票证书副本。\n\n问：据您所知，这是一份真实、正确、可靠且准确的文件吗？\n\n答：再次说明，根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，这似乎是一份准确的副本。\n\n问：该文件载明 Kwok 先生拥有 1,000 股，而这些股份的面值为 .001 cents；这是否正确？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 32 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：我认为是 .001 dollar，但对。\n\n问：是。谢谢。 .001 dollar？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：谢谢。因此，Kwok 先生在 Genever Corporation——Genever BVI 中所持股份的总价值为一美元；对吗？\n\nMITCHELL 律师（米切尔）：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：如果计算无误，那么是。这似乎是这里所写的内容。\n\n问：Kwok 先生是否为其股份支付了一美元？\n\n答：根据我审阅的文件，并无反映。\n\n问：您知道 Kwok 先生是否为其股份支付过任何金额吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：在 Genever BVI 存续期间，Kwok 先生是否一直是 Genever BVI 的唯一股东？\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，是。\n\n问：那么，Kwok 先生是 Genever BVI 的唯一所有人？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 33 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nGenever BVI？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：他是 Genever BVI 的唯一股东。\n\n问：您是否因其为公司而区分股东和所有人？是这个原因吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：但除 Kwok 先生外，没有其他人拥有 Genever BVI；这是否正确？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：除 Kwok 先生之外？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：根据我今天审阅的文件，除 Kwok 先生外，没有其他股东。\n\n问：Zhang Wei（张伟）是谁？\n\n答：他是 Kwok 先生的一名同事，居住在中国，最终借出款项用于购买 The Sherry-Netherland（谢里-尼德兰酒店）。\n\n问：他是 Kwok 先生的家庭成员吗？\n\n答：那将是推测，所以我不——\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 34 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n知道。\n\nMITCHELL 律师：我提醒证人不要推测。\n\n问：当您说 Zhang Wei 最终借出款项用于购买 The Sherry-Netherland 时，Zhang Wei 是将款项借给了谁？\n\n答：他将款项借给了 Bravo Luck，该公司当时由 Kwok 先生的儿子 Guo Qiang 所有，随后 Guo Qiang 通过 Bravo Luck 为购买 The Sherry-Netherland 提供了资金。\n\n问：Zhang Wei 先生是否拥有——拥有 Genever BVI 的任何股份？\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，其所有权并未反映在那些文件中。\n\n问：在 Genever BVI 存续期间的任何时候，Zhang Wei 先生是否拥有过 Genever BVI 的任何股份？\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，并无此项反映。\n\n问：Kwok 先生在 Genever BVI 成立时是其唯一董事；这是否正确？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 35 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nGenever BVI 成立时；这是否正确？\n\n答：是。再次说明，根据我为今天审阅的内容。\n\n问：在 Genever BVI 存续期间，其是否曾有过 Kwok 先生以外的任何董事？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：那些其他董事是谁？\n\n答：有一名公司秘书，即 BVI 的注册代理人，也担任董事。\n\n问：那是 Elian First Director（Elian首任董事）吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：该董事——Elian First Director 是否仅担任了一天左右的董事，直至由 Kwok 先生接替？\n\n答：我不知道其任职了多久，但起初是很短的一段时间，是。\n\n问：一天或几天？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：除 Elian First Director 外，该人士曾担任 Genever BVI 董事一天或几天，Kwok 先生之外是否还有任何其他——\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 36 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nGenever BVI 的董事？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。您可以回答。\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Kwok 先生是否曾不再担任 Genever BVI 的董事？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：他至今仍是董事？\n\n答：他目前仍是董事。\n\n问：他目前仍是唯一董事？\n\n答：他是唯一董事。Guo Qiang 是总裁。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否曾有任何办公室？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：您所说的“办公室”，是指营业办公室、公司办公室，诸如此类吗？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：它在英属维尔京群岛有一个邮寄地址，但没有我们通常所理解的、像这里这样的办公室。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 37 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：Genever BVI 从未有过营业办公室或公司办公室？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：Genever BVI 所使用的邮寄地址，是否是其送达程序注册代理人的邮寄地址？\n\n答：在 BVI？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：它是否有任何其他——Genever 是否持有——撤回。Genever BVI 除其在 BVI 的送达程序注册代理人的邮寄地址外，是否还有任何其他邮寄地址？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：它还有哪些其他地址？\n\n答：在香港有另一个地址，那里保存其账簿和记录。\n\n问：那个地址是什么？\n\n答：我一时想不起来。如果记录在我面前，我能够找到它。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 38 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：那个地址是什么？它是另一家公司的办公室吗？\n\n答：据我了解，它只是另一个邮寄地址，或者另一个——只是他们保存账簿和记录的办公室。\n\n问：谁负责保存账簿和记录？\n\n答：Guo Qiang。\n\n问：除 BVI 的送达程序注册代理人地址和香港保存账簿及记录的邮寄地址之外，还有其他地址吗？\n\n答：没有，据我所知没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否曾有任何雇员？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否有电话号码？\n\n答：我认为注册代理人有一个电话号码，但除此之外没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否有电子邮件地址？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 39 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否有任何高级职员？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：您提到了 Guo Qiang。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：他在 Genever BVI 担任什么职务？\n\n答：他是总裁。\n\n问：他何时成为总裁？\n\n答：2015年5月。\n\n问：从其于 2015年2月成立之时起，直至 Guo Qiang 于 2015年5月成为总裁期间，Genever BVI 是否有任何高级职员？\n\n答：如果您认为董事属于高级职员，那么有。\n\n问：那就是 Kwok 先生？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：还有 Elian 任职一天或两天？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：除董事之外，以及除——撤回。除董事之外，在其于 2015年2月成立与 Guo Qiang 于 2015年5月成为总裁之间，Genever BVI 是否有任何高级职员？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 40 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nGenever BVI 是否有任何高级职员？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：2015年5月是谁任命或选举 Guo Qiang 为总裁？\n\n答：Kwok 先生。\n\n问：是否曾——撤回。Genever BVI 是否曾有过任何其他高级职员，我不是指董事，只指高级职员，除 Guo Qiang 这名总裁之外？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Guo Qiang 仍是总裁吗？\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，是。\n\n问：在其于 2015年5月由 Kwok 先生任命为总裁与今天之间，Guo Qiang 是否曾——他是否曾在任何一段期间不再担任总裁？\n\n答：据我所知没有。\n\n问：Kwok 先生是否曾在 Genever BVI 担任高级职员职务？\n\n答：据我所知没有。\n\n问：除 Guo Qiang 外，您不知道有任何其他高级职员？\n\n答：是。正确。\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：Genever BVI 是否曾召开过董事会会议？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：根据我审阅的文件，其中并无反映。\n\n问：因此，根据您所见的一切，对该问题的回答是否为否？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：如果 Genever BVI 召开过董事会会议，我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件中并无反映。\n\n问：Genever BVI 保存哪些文件？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：其成立时生成的公司文件、股票证书、董事和股东名册，以及一项任命 Guo Qiang 为总裁的决议。\n\n问：您知道有一个保存这些文件的地址，但您不确定那是办公室、房间，还是其他什么地方？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 42 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n您不确定那是办公室、房间，还是其他什么地方？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您是否知道——您是否知道谁拥有那个地址，即保存记录的香港地址？\n\n答：我相信那是 UBS（瑞银）的一间办公室，但我是在推测。\n\nMITCHELL 律师：再次提醒证人不要推测。\n\n问：UBS 是指投资银行吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：是否有任何个人获授权代表 Genever BVI 行事？\n\nMITCHELL 律师：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：有。\n\n问：谁？\n\n答：Kwok 先生和 Guo Qiang。就本次证言记录而言，还有我。以及他们二人中任何一人任命代表公司行事的任何人。\n\n问：Kwok 先生或 Guo Qiang 是否曾在与本次——\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记，第 43 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n证言记录相关的事项中，任命您以外的任何人代表 Genever BVI 行事？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\nMITCHELL先生（米切尔）：\n仅对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n问：具体是谁任命您代表 Genever BVI（吉尼弗英属维尔京群岛公司）参加此次证言录取？\n\n答：Guo Qiang（郭强）。\n\n问：除目前这次证言录取外，您目前是否获授权为 Genever BVI 为任何其他目的行事？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：Kwok先生（郭文贵）曾代表 Genever BVI 采取过哪些行动？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n您可以回答。\n\n答：除签署公司设立文件外，我不知道。\n\n问：Guo Qiang 曾代表 Genever BVI 采取过哪些行动？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 44 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：我不太明白您所说的“哪些行动”是什么意思。您能否更具体一些？\n\n问：据您所知，Guo Qiang 是否曾代表 Genever BVI 做过任何事情、参加过任何会议、花过钱，或曾以任何方式从事过任何商业往来？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：他参与了公司的设立。他参与了购买 The Sherry（谢里）的事宜，并审阅了他们曾考虑购买的不同房产。他为 Genever BVI 签署了各种文件。他就该项购买与 The Sherry-Netherland（谢里-内德兰）的代表进行沟通。他就该项购买与房地产经纪人进行沟通。\n\n问：当您说他为 Genever BVI 签署了各种文件时，您指的是哪些文件？\n\n答：他签署了雇主——即 EIN，即雇主识别号码的申请。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 45 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n请注意——他问的是 Genever BVI。\n\n证人：\n哦，好的。\n\n答：哦，那可能是为 Genever New York（吉尼弗纽约公司）办理的。因此，就 Genever BVI 而言——\n\nMOSS先生（莫斯）：\n感谢澄清。\n\n问：我们回过头来。您先前作答说，他参与了公司的设立，他参与了购买 The Sherry，并且您还说过——如果您想回去看一下该回答，可以，但我只是想确保记录清楚。该回答是与 Genever New York 有关，还是与 Genever BVI 有关？\n\n答：（审阅文件。）那么，为明确起见，Guo Qiang 参与了 Genever BVI 的设立。在他被任命为总裁后，我记得看过他以总裁身份为 Genever BVI 签署的若干文件。我现在记不起那些文件是什么。除此之外，我想不出任何事情。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是 Genever New York 的唯一所有人；这是否正确？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Genever BVI 也是 Genever New York 的唯一成员吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Genever New York——撤回该问题。Genever BVI 设立了 Genever New York；这是否正确？\n\n答：是。根据我审阅的文件，我相信这准确。\n\n问：Podhaskie先生，请您注意证物3，第 KWOK193 页。这是一份题为“Genever Holdings Corporation（吉尼弗控股公司）董事书面同意书”的文件。其 Bates 编号为 KWOK193 至 194。您能识别这份文件吗？\n\n答：（审阅文件。）能。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 46 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：请予以识别。\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，这似乎是 Genever BVI 唯一董事于 February 12, 2015 作出的书面同意书副本。\n\n问：签名栏为 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）。这是 Kwok先生吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您是否有任何理由认为这不是一份准确且真实的文件？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：这份文件提到了 Andrea Sanft（安德烈娅·桑夫特），S-A-N-F-T。她是谁？\n\n答：她是 Paul Weiss（保尔·魏斯）律师事务所或 Williams & Connolly（威廉姆斯与康诺利）律师事务所的律师。\n\n问：根据该书面同意书，她获授权作为代表 Genever BVI 的获授权人员；这是否正确？\n\n答：是，正确。\n\n问：她获授权作为获授权人员设立 Genever New York，并采取为使 Genever New York 得以存续及获得在纽约州和纽约市开展业务许可所必需的其他行动和办理其他事项；这是否正确？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 48 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n您可以回答。\n\n答：是，根据这份唯一董事书面同意书，这一说法准确。\n\n问：Genever New York 是 Genever BVI 的一项资产吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：如果您假定有限责任公司的所有权是一项资产，那么是。\n\n问：您的理解是，有限责任公司的所有权是一项资产吗？\n\n答：这是我个人的理解。以我作为 Genever 代表的身份而言，我不知道。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 49 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：您不知道 Genever BVI 是否认为 Genever New York 是其资产之一吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：那么问题是什么？\n\n问：Genever New York 是 Genever BVI 的一项资产吗？\n\n答：Genever BVI 是否将 Genever New York 视为一项资产？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Genever BVI 将 Genever New York 视为 Genever BVI 的资产之一？\n\n答：正确。\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议，已问已答。\n\n问：除 Genever New York 外，Genever BVI 是否曾持有任何其他资产？\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，没有。\n\n问：除 Genever New York 外，Genever BVI 是否曾取得任何其他资产？\n\n答：再次根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，没有。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 50 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：除 Genever New York 外，Genever BVI 是否曾出售任何其他资产？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：再次根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI 的任何资产目前是否受权利负担或已被质押？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：这些资产并未——我认为我无法回答，因为这有些复杂。这些资产没有被质押。Genever BVI 的资产没有向任何人质押。\n\n问：我们先明确一下我们谈及“资产”时所指的内容。Genever BVI 目前除 Genever New York 外是否还有任何资产？\n\n答：是，它们持有其股份。\n\n问：哪一方的股份？\n\n答：Genever BVI 的股份。\n\n问：但不是 Kwok先生持有那些股份吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 51 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：是。\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n问：那么我的问题是，Genever BVI 本身除 Genever New York 外是否持有任何资产？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever New York 目前是否受权利负担？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：您所说的“受权利负担”是什么意思？\n\n问：它目前是否质押给任何人？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：目前是否有人对其享有留置权？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：是否已就任何可能的未来交易向任何人作出承诺？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：Ostrager法官（Judge Ostrager）在该案中作出的命令规定，如果 Genever New York 签订出售 The Sherry-Netherland 住宅的合同，则其必须向 PAX（PAX）提供书面通知。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 52 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：除 Ostrager大法官的命令外，Genever New York 是否以任何方式受权利负担？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：没有，据我所知没有。\n\n问：您作证称，Genever BVI 的资产曾在某一时点被质押——撤回该问题。Genever BVI 是否已转让给任何人？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：您提到，Genever BVI 的资产曾有一段时间被质押给名为 Roscalitar 2（罗斯卡利塔尔2）的实体；这是否正确？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：我相信 Genever BVI 将其股份质押给了 Roscalitar 2，不过，是的。\n\n问：质押了其在 Genever New York 的股份？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 53 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：其在 Genever BVI 的股份。\n\n问：Genever BVI 将其自身的股份，即其 100 percent 的股份，质押给了 Roscalitar 2？\n\n答：是，我相信这准确。\n\n问：并且，由于质押了其自身 100 percent 的股份，它也质押了 Genever New York 以及 Genever New York 持有的资产；这是否正确？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：为何 Genever BVI——为何 Genever BVI 的股份被质押给 Roscalitar 2？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对该问题的形式提出异议。\n\n答：因为 Zhang Wei（张伟）要求 Genever 通过该笔贷款质押其股份。\n\n问：Zhang Wei 为什么要 Genever 质押其股份？\n\n答：作为他向 Genever 提供、最终用于购买该住宅的贷款的担保。\n\n问：谁作出了将 Genever BVI 的股份质押给 Roscalitar 2 的决定？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题的形式提出异议。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 54 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：代表 Genever 而言？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：Guo Qiang。\n\n问：Kwok先生是否参与了该决定？\n\n答：我相信他参与了。我不确定。\n\n问：在作出该质押时，他是否知道该质押？\n\n答：我相信是。\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n我只是提醒证人。他说的是“我相信”。不要推测。如果您是在推测，请不要这样做，但是——\n\n问：是否有任何董事会决议或任何正式行动来记录向 Roscalitar 2 作出的该质押？\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，没有。\n\n问：Roscalitar 2 是否由 Zhang Wei 所有？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：是否由 Zhang Wei 控制？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：您知道谁拥有或控制 Roscalitar 2 吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 55 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：不知道。\n\n问：后来，向 Roscalitar 2 作出的质押被解除；这是否正确？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：那是在 2015 年 May 前后；对吗？\n\n答：在解除该质押时？我必须审阅日期，但听起来大约是在那个时间。\n\n问：为什么解除了向 Roscalitar 2 作出的质押？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：对此是否有任何董事会会议、活动或正式公司决议？\n\n答：根据我为今天所作准备而审阅的文件，没有。\n\n问：我认为您先前作证称，后来，在解除向 Roscalitar 作出的质押后，Genever BVI 的股份被质押给了一家名为 Blue Capital（蓝色资本公司）的公司；这是否正确？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：为何将股份质押给\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 56 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n蓝色资本（Blue Capital）？\n\n答：\n郭强（Guo Qiang）正在寻求获得一项贷款额度，他希望将 Genever BVI（Genever 英属维尔京群岛公司）的股份质押给蓝色资本，作为该贷款额度的担保。\n\n问：\n该贷款用于什么？\n\n答：\n他想要投资，您知道，进行其他类型的投资。\n\n问：\n您知道谁控制或拥有蓝色资本吗？\n\n答：\n不知道。\n\n问：\nKwok先生（郭文贵）是否参与了将 Genever BVI 的股份质押给蓝色资本的决定？\n\n答：\n我不知道。\n\n问：\n他知道该质押吗？\n\n答：\n我不知道。\n\n问：\n对蓝色资本的质押是否在某个时候被解除？\n\n答：\n是的，我相信是这样。\n\n问：\n为什么？\n\n答：\n我不知道。\n\n问：\n而且，目前 Genever BVI 不存在任何质押，对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 57 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：\n是。\n\n（Podhaskie证物4，质押登记证明，标记供识别。）\n\n问：\nPodhaskie先生，我已向您出示证物4。\n\n您能识别这份文件吗？\n\n答：\n（审阅文件。）这似乎是 Genever BVI 向 Roscalitar 2（罗斯卡利塔尔2）作出质押的副本。\n\n问：\n该质押于 May 21, 2015 设立，对吗？\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n根据您为本次证言作准备所做的工作，这似乎是该质押登记的真实、正确副本吗？\n\n答：\n（审阅文件。）是。\n\n问：\n而且，这项负担，即证物4，是 Genever BVI 会在其正常业务过程中保存的文件吗？\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n对于我今天向您出示的其他证物，除证物1和2外，情况是否相同；也就是说，证物3和4也都是 Genever BVI 会在其正常业务过程中保存的文件吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n我只是想为记录起见问一下，您问了他关于证物4的问题，他回答了是。\n\n因此，您现在实际上只是在问他关于证物3的问题，对吗？\n\nMOSS先生：\n是。\n\n问：\n如果您能翻阅一下证物3。这些是 Genever BVI 或 Genever New York（Genever纽约公司）在其正常业务过程中保存的文件吗？\n\n答：\n（审阅文件。）是。\n\n（Podhaskie证物5，根据第165条作出的已登记负担清偿或解除通知，标记供识别。）\n\n问：\nPodhaskie先生，已向您出示证物5，即根据第165条作出的已登记负担清偿或解除通知。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 58 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n您能识别这份文件吗？\n\n答：\n这似乎是一份日期为 May -- 抱歉 -- March 17, 2017 的已登记负担清偿或解除通知副本。\n\n问：\n这似乎是该项负担清偿的真实、正确且真实有效的副本吗？\n\n答：\n根据我为今天所作准备时审阅的材料，是。\n\n问：\n这是否是 Genever BVI 会在其正常业务过程中保存的文件？\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n这是否与 Genever BVI 的证言一致，即对 Roscalitar 2 的质押于 March 17, 2017 被解除？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n在 March 17, 2017 之后，Genever BVI 是否曾再次质押给 Roscalitar 2？\n\n答：\n根据我为今天所作准备时审阅的文件，没有。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 60 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n（Podhaskie证物6，被告就原告要求作出判决前扣押命令的动议所提交的反对法律备忘录，标记供识别。）\n\n问：\nPodhaskie先生，已向您出示证物6，即由 Hodgson Russ LLP（霍奇森·拉斯有限责任合伙律师事务所）代表被告提交的《被告就原告要求作出判决前扣押命令的动议所提交的反对法律备忘录》。\n\n您以前见过这份文件吗？\n\n答：\n见过。\n\n问：\n我请您看第9页，并请您注意——您看到以“As explained”开头的段落了吗？\n\n答：\n哪一页——哪个第9页？\n\n问：\n当然。是30页中的第9页或第15页。\n\n答：\n好的。看到了。\n\n问：\n然后往下数一、二、三、四、五——六行。\n\n答：\n嗯。\n\n问：\n您看到以“While Kwok”开头的句子了吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 61 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：\n看到了。\n\n问：\n“尽管 Kwok 是 Genever BVI 的唯一股东，但自 May of 2015 起，Genever BVI 的资产——其因拥有 Genever USA 而包括该公寓——已全部质押给 Roscalitar 2，该公司是与 Kwok 无关且不由 Kwok 拥有的第三方。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：\n看到了。\n\n问：\n如果您看顶部，您看到该文件的日期是 May 16 of 2018 吗？\n\n答：\n看到了。\n\n问：\n而在该日期，Genever BVI 的资产事实上并未质押给 Roscalitar 2，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：\n我认为我们已确定，Genever BVI 对 Roscalitar 2 的质押自 March 17, 2017 起解除，如果我没记错的话。\n\n问：\n那么这不是一项真实陈述，对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 62 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：\n我不知道在 Hodgson Russ 提交该书状时，该项负担的解除是否已向公众公开。\n\n问：\n所以请尽量聚焦于问题。我不是在问您 Hodgson Russ 是否知道该陈述是虚假的。\n\n我只是问您，该陈述于 May 16, 2018 向法院作出时，是真实还是虚假。\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：\n（审阅文件。）再次说明，如果该项负担的解除未向公众公开，且 Hodgson Russ 不知情，那么这项陈述就是准确的。\n\n问：\n让我再问一次。该陈述是真实还是虚假？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n问：\n在 May 16, 2018 作出时？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n已问已答。\n\n答：\n您所指的陈述是？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 63 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：\n这里所作的陈述是，自 May 2015 起，Genever BVI 的资产已全部质押给 Roscalitar 2。\n\n答：\n再次说明，我会援引我先前的回答。\n\n问：\nPodhaskie先生，那是一项虚假陈述，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：\n您所说的“虚假陈述”是什么意思？\n\n问：\n我的意思是，截至 May 16, 2018，Genever BVI 的资产并未质押给 Roscalitar 2，对吗？\n\n答：\n该质押的解除生效日期为 March 17, 2017。我不知道这何时向英属维尔京群岛记录或《英属维尔京群岛商业公司法》提交。\n\n因此，我不知道在 May of 2018 可获得哪些资料，以反映该等资产是否仍被质押。\n\n问：\n截至 May 16, 2018，Genever BVI 的资产是否质押给 Roscalitar 2？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 64 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议，已问已答。\n\n您已经问了他同一个问题六次。您没有得到您想要的答案。对此我很抱歉。但他已经回答了。\n\nMOSS先生：\n他没有回答。\n\n答：\n好的。那么问题是什么？\n\n问：\n截至 May 16, 2018，Genever BVI 的资产是否质押给 Roscalitar 2？\n\n答：\nGenever BVI 对 Roscalitar 2 的质押自 March 17, 2017 起解除。\n\n问：\n所以我的问题的答案是否定的，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：\n您的问题是什么？\n\n问：\n请尽量听清问题，并回答我所问的问题。如果您正试图回答问题，您就会知道我问的是什么。\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对刚才不论是什么提出异议。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 65 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：\n截至 May 16, 2018，Genever BVI 的资产是否质押给 Roscalitar 2？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n异议，已问已答。\n\n答：\n再次说明，Genever BVI 对 Roscalitar 2 的质押自 March 17, 2017 起解除。我认为这回答了您的问题。\n\n问：\nGenever BVI 或 Genever New York 的任何人是否在该书状提交法院之前审阅过它？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。这超出了您在证言通知中向他询问的范围。您没有问他任何已提交的法律文件或任何该类性质的事项。\n\n所以，如果他能回答这个问题，我会允许他回答，但显然不能期待他具有这种知识。\n\n问：\n您能回答吗？\n\n答：\n我不知道。\n\n问：\n顺便问一下，您知道 Genever BVI 何时收到——您此前作证称，负担清偿文件由 Genever BVI 在其正常业务过程中保存，对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 66 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n您知道 Genever BVI 何时收到该文件的副本吗？\n\n答：\n不知道。\n\n问：\n您有任何理由相信 Genever BVI 花了一年时间才收到该文件的副本吗？\n\n答：\n我不知道他们花了多长时间才收到该文件。\n\n问：\n您最好的理解是否是，Genever BVI 在您说其于正常业务过程中保存该文件时，到 2017 年末已将该文件存入其档案？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：\n我不知道，但根据我与律师以及英属维尔京群岛人士打交道的经验，他们办事比我们慢得多。\n\n问：\n您知道 Roscalitar 质押的负担清偿在 2017 年是否向公众公开吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 67 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：\n不知道。\n\n问：\nGenever BVI 的证言并不是说，在英属维尔京群岛登记的——与负担有关的文件需要一年才能向公众公开，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n而且，再次说明，这超出了 30(b)(6) 通知的范围。如果他知道，他可以回答，但显然不能期待他知道。\n\n答：\n我不知道需要多长时间。\n\n（Podhaskie证物7，质押登记证明，标记供识别。）\n\n问：\nPodhaskie先生，已向您出示证物7。\n\n您能识别这份文件吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n抱歉。我们称这是证物7吗？\n\nMOSS先生：\n是。\n\n答：\n（审阅文件。）这似乎是一份日期为 February 14, 2018 的质押登记证明副本。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 68 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：\n这是否就是您作证称与郭强贷款有关、向蓝色资本作出的负担，即质押？\n\n答：\n看来是的。\n\n问：\n据您所知——据 Genever BVI 所知，这是否是质押文件真实、准确的副本？\n\n答：\n（审阅文件。）是，看来是。\n\n问：\n这是否是 Genever BVI 在其正常业务过程中保存的文件？\n\n答：\n会是的。\n\n问：\nGenever BVI 的证言是否是，其不确定其唯一董事兼唯一股东 Kwok先生是否在该质押设立时知悉该质押？\n\nMITCHELL先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n您可以回答。\n\n答：\n我不知道。\n\n问：\n谁会知道该问题的答案？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 69 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：可能是Kwok先生（郭文贵）。\n\n问：嗯，您记得Kwok先生作证说，他对任何质押一无所知，对吗？您知道这一点吗？\n\nMITCHELL律师（米切尔）：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：如果那是他的证词。我不确切记得他作证了什么。\n\n问：在订立该质押时，Kwok先生仍是Genever BVI（英属维尔京群岛Genever）的唯一股东和唯一董事，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：在Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）的诉讼尚未审结期间订立该担保权、该质押一事，Genever BVI是否就此进行过任何讨论？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：据我所知，没有。\n\n问：您此前作证称，该Blue Capital（蓝色资本）质押在某个时候被解除或清偿；这是否正确？\n\n答：据我理解，是的。\n\n问：您是否——您是否作证——请让我问一下，解除该质押的原因是什么？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 70 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：该质押被解除——原因是否——撤回该问题。解除该质押是否与Pacific Alliance的诉讼有关？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：解除该质押是否与The Sherry-Netherland（谢里-内瑟兰）的专有租约有关？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：这些质押是否违反了Genever New York（纽约Genever）与The Sherry-Netherland之间的专有租约？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。该问题要求作出法律结论。\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever——不。好的。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 71 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n（Podhaskie证物8，《已登记担保权清偿或解除通知》，标记供识别。）\n\n问：Podhaskie先生，已向您出示证物8。请您识别该文件，可以吗？\n\n答：这似乎是一份《已登记担保权清偿或解除通知》的副本。其生效日期为June 12, 2018。\n\n问：这是否就是我们刚才谈到的Blue Capital担保权的清偿？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这是否是该担保权清偿文件的真实、正确、经认证副本？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：看来是的。\n\n问：这是否是Genever BVI在其正常业务过程中保存的文件？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是，会保存。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 72 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：关于相关讨论或该质押为何被解除，您没有任何补充，对吗？\n\n答：没有，我不知道其为何被解除。\n\n问：您在为准备本次证言录取而与Guo Qiang（郭强）交谈时，是否问过他该质押为何被解除？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI——Genever BVI的任何人员是否曾就将Genever BVI的所有权转让给Kwok先生以外的任何人进行过讨论？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。据我所知，没有。\n\n问：Genever BVI或代表Genever BVI的任何人，是否曾与The Sherry-Netherland接洽，询问是否可以重组Genever BVI的所有权并将其转让给Kwok先生的儿子？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 73 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：没有，不是代表Genever BVI。\n\n问：代表任何人呢？是否曾有人请求The Sherry-Netherland将Genever BVI、Genever New York或The Sherry-Netherland的所有权转让或让与Kwok先生的儿子？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：曾向The Sherry-Netherland提出请求，将所有权从Kwok先生转让给其儿子Guo Qiang。\n\n问：转让什么的所有权？\n\n答：The Sherry-Netherland。\n\n问：该请求是在何时提出的？\n\n答：我一时想不起具体日期。\n\n问：提出该请求是谁的主意？\n\n答：我相信是Guo Qiang。\n\n问：为何提出该请求？\n\n答：因为他起初想亲自购买The Sherry-Netherland，而The Sherry不喜欢由当时那个年龄的人——您知道，一个二十多岁的人——拥有该住所这一想法。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 74 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：因此，他的父亲成为了所有人，之后他们想到，也许可以在事后接洽董事会，看看Guo Qiang能否成为所有人。\n\n问：Kwok先生知道该请求吗？\n\n答：是，我认为他知道。\n\n问：您知道是谁向The Sherry-Netherland提出该请求的吗？\n\n答：具体是谁，我不知道。\n\n问：是否曾就将Genever BVI、Genever New York或The Sherry-Netherland的所有权转让给Kwok先生以外的任何人进行过其他讨论？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：除了我们谈过的有关质押的讨论之外？\n\n答：是。\n\nMITCHELL律师：抱歉。为明确记录起见，我只是想确认一下。您回答他的问题，是因为您理解他的问题仅指有关质押的讨论，对吗？而不是回答“是，曾有其他——”记录并不清楚。我只是想确认——\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 75 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMOSS律师（莫斯）：让我再问一遍。\n\nMITCHELL律师：好的。\n\n问：除我们谈到的向Roscalitar 2（罗斯卡利塔尔2）和Blue Capital作出的质押外，且除将The Sherry-Netherland的所有权转让给Kwok先生儿子的请求外，是否曾就Genever BVI、Genever New York或The Sherry-Netherland中的任何一者进行过质押、转让或让与的讨论？\n\n答：曾与Bravo Luck（布拉沃幸运）订立一项信托协议，但除此之外，我不知道。\n\n问：Kwok先生在The Sherry-Netherland公寓中拥有所有权权益，这是真的吗？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：不，那不准确。\n\n问：Kwok先生是否通过其对Genever BVI的所有权拥有The Sherry-Netherland公寓，而Genever BVI继而拥有Genever New York，Genever New York继而拥有该公寓？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：不，那不准确。\n\n问：好的。Kwok先生在该公寓中的所有权权益是否是通过一家有限责任公司持有的，这是真的吗？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：那不准确。\n\n问：这是Kwok先生证言录取中的证物24。\n\nMOSS律师：抱歉。我们没有多余副本，但今天在Kwok先生的证言录取期间已经分发给各位。\n\n录像员：各位律师，录像带还剩三分钟。现在停止记录。时间为下午4:25。\n\n（休庭。）\n\n录像员：现在开始第二盘录像带。现恢复记录。时间为下午4:38。\n\nMOSS律师询问：\n\n问：Podhaskie先生，您面前是Yvette Wang（王燕平），即Yan Ping Wang（王燕平）在本案中于May 16, 2018提交的宣誓书，或者——该宣誓书于May 15宣誓，ECF盖章日期为May 16。您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：这是今天早些时候Kwok先生证言录取中的证物24。您记得我是否问过您，Kwok先生是否通过一家有限责任公司在该公寓中拥有所有权权益，而您作证称，不，他没有？您记得该证词吗？\n\n答：记得。\n\n问：请看第2段。第一句话写道：“Kwok先生通过一家有限责任公司在该公寓中的所有权权益不是不动产。”Kwok先生是否确实通过一家有限责任公司在The Sherry-Netherland公寓中拥有所有权权益？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 78 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：Kwok先生在该公寓中没有所有权权益。他在The Sherry-Netherland Corporation（谢里-内瑟兰公司）中拥有所有权权益，该公司随后将该不动产出租给Genever New York。\n\n问：所以，Kwok先生在The Sherry-Netherland Corporation中拥有所有权权益？\n\n答：您指的是他对The Sherry-Netherland Corporation股份的所有权权益吗？\n\n问：您作证称，他在The Sherry-Netherland Corporation中拥有所有权权益。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这是正确的，即Kwok先生在The Sherry-Netherland Corporation中拥有所有权权益？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：该所有权权益与18楼的公寓有关？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 79 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：他对18楼的公寓拥有专有租约，是的。\n\n问：那与该所有权权益有关——\n\n答：是。\n\n问：——即在The Sherry-Netherland Corporation中的所有权权益，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Kwok先生通过Genever New York及Genever BVI拥有其在The Sherry-Netherland Corporation股份中的该权益，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：除Kwok先生、Miles Kwok（郭文贵）之外，是否还有其他人就18楼公寓而言，在The Sherry-Netherland Hotel（谢里-内瑟兰酒店）的股份中拥有所有权权益？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：作为Genever BVI和Genever New York的公司代表，您今天坐在这里能否指出其他任何人？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 80 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：坐在这个房间里吗？\n\n问：对。\n\n答：拥有所有权权益的人——\n\nMITCHELL律师：那是我提出异议的理由。\n\nMOSS律师：好的。对律师进行证言录取时就是这样。\n\nMITCHELL律师：为明确记录起见，房间里的几个人都会很乐意接受The Sherry的所有权份额。\n\n问：作为今天在场的Genever BVI和Genever New York的公司代表，除Miles Kwok先生外，您能否指出其他任何就18楼公寓而言在The Sherry-Netherland Hotel股份中拥有所有权权益的人？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：Kwok先生——撤回该问题。Guo Qiang是否曾居住在The Sherry-Netherland的18楼公寓？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 81 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL律师：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：您所说的“居住”，是指主要住所吗？\n\n问：我的意思是，他是否曾在该处长期居住？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：The Sherry-Netherland Hotel是否曾是Guo Qiang的主要住所？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：何时？\n\n答：我是在推测，但我认为是在2015。\n\n问：自2015以来，Guo Qiang是否曾——撤回该问题。自2015以来，The Sherry-Netherland Hotel是否曾是Guo Qiang的主要住所？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：自2015以来，他是否曾到访？\n\nMITCHELL律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\nMOSS律师：让我再问一遍。撤回该问题。\n\n问：Guo Qiang是否曾在The Sherry-Netherland——\n\n自 2015 年以来一直住在 Sherry-Netherland（雪莉-荷兰人酒店）的公寓里？\n\n答：我想是这样，但我无法，你知道，确定地说。我不——我不和他一起睡，所以。\n\n问：让我们回到证物 3，Podhaskie先生（波德哈斯基先生），我想请您注意 KWOK193 页。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：您看到第一段中写道，它提到 Genever BVI（Genever英属维尔京群岛公司）是 Genever New York（Genever纽约公司）的唯一成员。\n\nGenever BVI 是 Genever New York 的唯一成员吗？\n\n答：仅为记录起见，那里写的是“作为 Genever Holdings Corporation（Genever控股公司）的唯一董事”。\n\n问：那么请看第一项决议。您看到“兹决议，Andrea Sanft（安德烈娅·桑夫特）”吗？\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是的，是的。\n\n问：再看该段的最后一句。“为完成该等行动所必需的范围内，该公司”，其中“该公司”是指 Genever BVI？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 83 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：嗯哼。\n\n问：“作为 Genever New York 的唯一成员。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：Genever BVI 是 Genever New York 的唯一成员吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：自 Genever New York 成立以来，Genever BVI 一直是 Genever New York 的唯一成员吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生（米切尔先生）：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是的。\n\nMOSS先生（莫斯先生）：嗯，那是因为这是个糟糕的问题。\n\n问：自 Genever New York 成立以来，Genever BVI 一直是 Genever New York 的唯一成员吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：如果您看那里的第三项决议，其中有一项与 Michael O'Connor（迈克尔·奥康纳）有关的决议。\n\n答：嗯哼。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 84 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：Michael O'Connor 是谁？\n\n答：他是 Paul Weiss（保罗·韦斯律师事务所）或 Williams & Connolly（威廉姆斯与康诺利律师事务所）的律师。我不确定。我认为是 Paul Weiss，但不十分肯定。\n\n问：因此，Sanft女士获授权成立 Genever New York，而 O'Connor先生获授权促使 Genever New York 在成立后与 The Sherry-Netherland（雪莉-荷兰人酒店）订立购买协议；对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：因此，从成立之初的计划就是，一旦 Genever New York 成立，其将与 The Sherry-Netherland 就第 18 层订立购买协议，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：成立 Genever New York 的目的，是为了与 The Sherry-Netherland 订立该协议吗？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 85 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：那是目的之一，是的。\n\n问：其他目的是什么？\n\n答：按其认为适当的方式投资其他房地产。\n\n问：Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 是在相隔数日内成立的，对吗？\n\n答：是的，大约在同一时间。\n\n问：您说 Genever New York 的其他目的包括按其认为适当的方式投资其他房地产。\n\n除 The Sherry-Netherland Hotel（雪莉-荷兰人酒店）外，Genever New York 是否曾投资任何其他房地产？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：因此，Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 都是为持有 Kwok先生（郭文贵先生）在 Sherry-Netherland 公寓中的权益而成立的？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：这不准确。\n\n问：好的。哪里不准确？\n\n答：最初，Guo Qiang（郭强），Kwok先生的儿子，\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 86 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n想购买 The Sherry-Netherland 的公寓。他们是在理解他将成为实际所有人的情况下成立这些公司的，但 The Sherry-Netherland 不喜欢由 Guo Qiang 成为所有人的想法，因为他们认为他太年轻。\n\n问：那么，您的证言是，Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 是为持有 Guo Qiang 在 The Sherry-Netherland 中的权益而成立的，但 Kwok先生最终成为所有人，只是因为 The Sherry-Netherland 希望如此？\n\n答：它们是为拥有 Guo Qiang 及其家人想投资的房地产而成立的。他们使 Kwok先生成为 Genever BVI 的唯一成员，而作为 Genever BVI 的唯一成员，即 Genever New York 的所有人，因为 The Sherry-Netherland 认为 Guo Qiang 年纪太轻，不宜成为这套特定公寓的所有人。\n\n问：我请您注意证物 3 的第 178 页。\n\n您能识别这份文件吗？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 87 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：（查阅文件。）它是一份——看起来像是纽约州国务卿办公室公司公开查询系统中关于 Genever Holdings LLC（Genever控股有限责任公司）的打印件。\n\n问：它显示——这就是我们一直称为 Genever New York 的实体，对吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：这份文件提及 Genever New York 于 February 17, 2015 在纽约注册成立；对吗？\n\n答：这份文件是这么写的，是的。\n\n问：这与 Genever 的理解一致，对吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：因此，Genever New York 是在 Genever BVI 成立约五天后成立的？\n\n答：我不确切记得，但它们大约在同一时间成立。\n\n问：如果我告诉您，几分钟前我们查看了显示 Genever BVI 于 February 12 成立的文件，这是否能唤起您的记忆？\n\n答：不能。我们看的是什么文件？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 88 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：您何不看一下第 145 页？\n\nSARNOFF先生（萨诺夫先生）：证物 3 的。\n\n答：（查阅文件。）是的，它成立——根据这份文件，它于 February 13, 2015 成立。\n\n问：Genever BVI 于 February 13, 2015 成立，Genever New York 于 February 17, 2015 成立，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是的，依据这些文件。\n\n问：因此相隔四天？\n\n答：那是正确的。\n\n问：Genever——Genever New York 是为与 The Sherry-Netherland Hotel 订立协议而成立的，对吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议，该问题已经问过并已回答。\n\n答：是的，那是目的之一。\n\n问：Genever New York 的经营目的是否随时间发生变化？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：是否有任何目的被增加或删减？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 89 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：自 February 2015 成立以来，Genever New York 经营了什么业务？\n\n答：它拥有 The Sherry-Netherland 的公寓。\n\n问：还有其他业务吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：除与 The Sherry-Netherland Hotel 的合同外，Genever New York 是否曾订立任何合同？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：Genever New York 是否曾支出或支付任何款项？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：支付给谁？\n\n答：The Sherry-Netherland。\n\n问：用于维护费？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：还有其他吗？\n\n答：我想就这些。\n\n问：The Sherry-Netherland——Genever New York 是否曾将任何款项用于维护费之外的其他用途，或支付给 The Sherry-Netherland 以外的其他人？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 90 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：据我所知，没有。\n\n问：Genever New York 是否有银行账户？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：在哪家银行？\n\n答：Chase（大通银行）。\n\n问：该账户何时开立？\n\n答：2018 年。\n\n问：支付给 The Sherry-Netherland 的款项是否来自该银行账户？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：该银行账户如何获得资金？\n\n答：它从 Golden Spring New York（金泉纽约公司）收款。\n\n问：谁拥有 Golden Spring New York？\n\n答：China Golden Spring Group Hong Kong Limited（中国金泉集团香港有限公司）。\n\n问：谁拥有 China Golden Spring Group Hong Kong Limited？\n\n答：Guo Qiang。\n\n问：Kwok先生在 China Golden Spring Group Hong Kong Limited 中是否拥有任何权益？\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：2018 年之前，Genever New York 是否有银行账户？\n\n答：在什么年份之前？\n\n问：2018 年。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：2018 年之前，Genever New York 是否必须向 The Sherry-Netherland 支付维护费？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：那笔钱来自哪里？\n\n答：我相信来自 Golden Spring New York。\n\n问：除 Golden Spring New York 外，是否曾有任何人将任何款项存入 Genever New York 的银行账户？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：因此，据您所知，Genever New York 在 2018 年之前没有任何银行账户？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 92 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：您知道 Genever New York 为什么在 2018 年开立银行账户吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：除 Golden Spring 为支付 The Sherry-Netherland Hotel 维护费而提供的款项外，是否曾有任何其他款项存入 Genever New York 的银行账户？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 是本诉讼的当事人。\n\n您知道这一点吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：直到几周前，Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 一直由 Hodgson Russ（霍奇森·拉斯律师事务所）代理；对吗？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：现在它们由 Mitchell先生所在的律师事务所代理；对吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：谁向 Hodgson Russ 支付 Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 的律师费？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对该问题的提问形式提出异议。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 93 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：谁向 Mitchell先生所在的律师事务所支付 Genever BVI 和 Genever New York 的律师费？\n\nMITCHELL先生：我将指示他不要回答，特权。\n\nMOSS先生：谁支付账单属于特权？\n\nMITCHELL先生：可能属于。我主张特权。您可以主张其不属于特权。\n\n问：您会遵从您的律师的指示吗？\n\n答：我会遵从我的律师的指示。\n\n问：您是否知道 Kwok先生是否正在支付与本诉讼有关的 Genever BVI 和 Genever New York 的律师费？\n\n答：他没有支付。\n\n问：但您不知道是谁在支付？\n\n答：不知道。\n\n问：几年前，Kwok先生和 Genever New York 曾在一宗涉及其露台维护的争议中起诉 The Sherry-Netherland Hotel。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 94 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n这听起来熟悉吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：在该诉讼中，Kwok先生和 Genever New York 由同一家律师事务所代理——\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：——对吗？\n\n是谁支付该律师事务所的律师费？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\nMITCHELL先生：仅为澄清记录，您知道该律师事务所的名称吗？因为那不是我的律师事务所，我相信也不是 Hodgson Russ，我只是想确认——当您说同一家律师事务所时，您的意思是他们都有同一名律师，而不是说那是我们任何一家律师事务所，对吗？\n\nMOSS先生：正确。\n\n问：那么我不知道——您知道该律师事务所的名称吗？\n\n答：代理 Genever 和 Kwok先生处理先前针对 The Sherry 的诉讼的那家？\n\n问：是的。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 95 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：我认为是Stone Magnanini（斯通·马格纳尼尼）。\n\n问：您知道谁在为Genever New York（纽约吉尼弗）支付Stone Magnanini的律师费吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：您知道，就该诉讼而言，Stone Magnanini的律师费是由一名个人或实体支付，还是由两名个人或实体支付吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生（米切尔）：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：换言之，在The Sherry-Netherland（雪莉-内德兰酒店）诉讼中，是否由同一名个人或实体为Kwok先生（郭文贵先生）和Genever支付律师费？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：在本案中，是否由同一名个人或实体为Kwok先生和两个Genever实体支付律师费？\n\nMITCHELL先生：我指示我的当事人不予回答。\n\nMOSS先生（莫斯）：这是一个可以回答“是”或“否”的问题。\n\n问：在本案中，是否由同一名个人或实体为Kwok先生和Genever实体支付律师费？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 96 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\nMITCHELL先生：这个问题，您可以回答。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：在Genever New York存续的整个期间，Genever BVI（英属维尔京群岛吉尼弗）是否一直是Genever New York的唯一股东？\n\n答：不，那不准确。\n\n问：为什么不准确？\n\n答：Genever New York是一家LLC（有限责任公司）。它有成员。它没有股东。\n\n问：在Genever New York存续的整个期间，Genever BVI是否一直是Genever New York的唯一成员？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Kwok先生控制Genever BVI吗？\n\n答：不。\n\n问：谁控制？\n\n答：Guo Qiang（郭强）。\n\n问：Kwok先生控制Genever New York吗？\n\n答：不。\n\n问：谁控制？\n\n答：郭强。\n\n问：Kwok先生不控制Genever BVI，尽管他是唯一董事和唯一股东？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 97 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议，已问及并已作答。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Zhang Wei（张伟）是否在Genever New York中担任任何角色？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：张伟是否拥有Genever New York的任何成员权益？\n\n答：我为今天作准备而审阅的文件中没有反映这一点。\n\n问：Genever New York有任何董事吗？\n\n答：不，我认为没有。\n\n问：它曾经有过任何董事吗？“它”是指Genever New York。\n\n答：我认为它只有一名获授权人及其唯一成员。除此之外，没有。\n\n问：唯一成员是Genever BVI吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：谁是获授权人？\n\n答：郭强。\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：除郭强之外，Genever New York曾经有其他获授权人吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：除在设立及购买The Sherry时的决议中提及的律师外，没有。\n\n问：Genever New York有任何办公场所吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：它曾经有过任何办公场所吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever New York有任何雇员吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever New York曾经有过任何雇员吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Genever New York有电话号码吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：既然Genever New York没有任何董事，我认为它从未召开过董事会会议；对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 99 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我为今天作准备而审阅的文件中没有反映这一点。\n\n问：Genever New York有任何地址吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：781 Fifth Avenue。\n\n问：那是什么地方？\n\n答：那是The Sherry-Netherland。\n\n问：Genever New York的——撤回。18层是否构成该地址的一部分？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：所以，Genever New York的地址是Kwok先生居住的、位于The Sherry-Netherland 18层的公寓？\n\n答：那是Genever New York的邮寄地址。\n\n问：它还有其他地址吗？\n\n答：据我所知没有。实际上，其位于Albany（奥尔巴尼）的送达注册代理人可能有一个地址，但除此之外，我不知道有其他地址。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 100 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：除注册代理人的地址外，Genever New York除The Sherry-Netherland Hotel（雪莉-内德兰酒店）外没有任何其他地址？\n\n答：不，据我所知没有。\n\n问：Genever New York持有任何文件吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这些文件保存在哪里？\n\n答：我相信是在The Sherry-Netherland，但我——我不能确定。\n\n问：Genever New York的任何文件是否保存在Genever BVI文件存放的英属维尔京群岛地址？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：任何Genever BVI文件是否保存在The Sherry-Netherland？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 101 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：Genever New York持有哪些文件？\n\n答：其公司设立文件、其股票登记册、其收到的邮件。\n\n问：是否有任何人员获授权代表Genever New York行事？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议，已问及并已作答。\n\n答：您的意思是，除Kwok先生和他的儿子之外吗？\n\n问：那么，Kwok先生获授权代表Genever New York行事吗？\n\n答：Kwok先生？我不知道。\n\n问：郭强获授权代表Genever New York行事吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：谁授权他这样做？\n\n答：他由Genever BVI授权。\n\n问：作为Genever BVI唯一董事和唯一股东的Kwok先生，是否授权Genever BVI授权郭强代表Genever New York行事？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 102 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我会假定是这样。我不能确定，但我知道，在2015年5月前后，郭强被指定为Genever New York的获授权人。\n\n问：Genever New York持有哪些资产？\n\n答：它拥有The Sherry-Netherland Corporation（雪莉-内德兰公司）的股份，并在JPMorgan Chase（摩根大通）拥有一个银行账户。\n\n问：那就是由Golden Spring New York（纽约金泉）注资、旨在持有用于支付The Sherry-Netherland维护费的资金的银行账户？\n\n答：该银行账户的目的，我不知道是否是持有资金，但它——该银行账户被用于支付Genever New York的维护费。\n\n问：除支付The Sherry-Netherland Hotel的维护费外，您无法指出还有其他任何从该银行账户支出的付款，对吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 103 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：Genever New York是否曾持有任何其他资产——顺便说一下，撤回。Genever New York在那个JPMorgan账户，即那个Chase账户中曾经拥有的最高金额是多少？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：有任何概念吗？\n\n答：没有，确实没有。\n\n问：超过$3 million吗？\n\n答：The Sherry的每月维护费约为60,000。因此，您知道，足以每月支付该费用。\n\n问：除Chase账户和对The Sherry-Netherland的所有权外，Genever New York是否曾持有任何其他资产？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：Genever New York曾出售过任何资产吗？\n\n答：据我所知没有。\n\n问：除银行账户和The Sherry-Netherland的股份外，您是否知道任何其他收购？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 104 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：我今天审阅的文件中没有反映这一点。\n\n问：除Ostrager法官（奥斯特拉格法官）的命令外，Genever New York是否以任何方式受到权利负担？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我相信，Genever New York、Bravo Luck（百瑞好运）、Kwok先生和Genever BVI之间有一份信托协议，涉及The Sherry-Netherland住宅，但除该协议和Ostrager法官的命令外，我不知道有任何其他权利负担。\n\n问：除信托协议和Ostrager法官的命令外，您是否知道Genever New York的资产过去曾受到任何权利负担？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我会说是我们此前讨论过的向Roscalitar 2（罗斯卡利塔尔2）和Blue Capital（蓝色资本）作出的质押协议。除此之外，我不知道有任何其他。\n\n（Podhaskie第9号证物，信托声明及协议，标记供识别。）\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 105 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：Podhaskie先生，现向您出示第9号证物。这是否是您一直提及的、与Bravo Luck和Genever实体有关的信托协议？\n\n答：（审阅文件。）是，这看来是该信托协议的一份副本。\n\n问：日期为February 17, 2015。这是其订立日期吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：如果您看左下角，您知道那是谁的签名吗？抱歉。第一页，即543页的底部。\n\n答：知道。\n\n问：是谁的？\n\n答：郭强的。\n\n问：右下角呢，那是谁的签名？\n\n答：我不能确定，但看起来像是Kwok先生的。\n\n问：在第544页，是同样的情况吗，即左边是郭强的签名，右边是Kwok先生的签名？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 106 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n答：看起来是这样，是的。\n\n问：在第545页，郭强的签名是第一个，而Kwok先生的签名是接下来的三个吗？\n\nMITCHELL先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：您的意思是，除郭强的签名外，在另外三个签名下面的那三个吗？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：是，看起来是这样。\n\n问：郭强代表Bravo Luck Limited（百瑞好运有限公司）签字；对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Kwok先生代表Genever New York、Genever BVI和Kwok先生本人签字，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您知道是否有律师代表任何一方处理该协议相关事宜吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 107 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n问：您知道该协议保存在哪里吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：我想请您注意背景部分。\n\n问：第2项——首先，您看到顶部对各方作出定义时，英属维尔京群岛公司是Genever Holdings Corporation（吉尼弗控股公司）吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：那就是我们一直称为Genever BVI的公司，对吗？\n\n答：是，我相信是。\n\n问：而Genever Holdings LLC（吉尼弗控股有限责任公司）这家公司，即您和我一直称为Genever New York的公司，在本文件中被称为US SPV；对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：SPV代表特殊目的实体；对吗？\n\n答：我相信是，是的。\n\n问：如果您看背景部分第2项，其中写道：“英属维尔京群岛公司的目的”，即Genever BVI，“是持有US SPV的特殊目的实体。”\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1604-23 Filed 03/27/23 Entered 03/27/23 14:12:10 Page 108 of 140\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n2　您看到了吗？\n\n3　答：是。\n\n4　问：美国特殊目的实体（US SPV）是 Genever New York（Genever纽约），\n\n5　对吗？\n\n6　答：是。\n\n7　问：因此，根据该文件，\n\n8　Genever BVI（Genever英属维尔京群岛）的目的是持有 Genever New\n\n9　York，对吗？\n\n10　答：该文件是这么写的，是。\n\n11　问：这是否准确？\n\n12　答：据我了解，这是目的之一，是。\n\n13　问：在第3项中，“美国特殊目的实体的目的”，\n\n14　指的就是 Genever New York，对吗？\n\n15　答：是。\n\n16　问：因此，“Genever New York 的目的\n\n17　是作为一个持有位于某地址之物业的特殊目的实体”，\n\n18　随后列出了位于 The Sherry-Netherland（谢里-内瑟兰）\n\n19　第18层的若干单元。”\n\n20　是这样吗？\n\n21　答：该文件是这么写的，是。\n\n22　问：因此，Genever New York 的目的\n\n23　是作为持有第18层住宅的特殊目的实体，\n\n24　对吗？\n\n25　案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 109 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE（波德哈斯基）\n\n2　答：这是目的之一，是。\n\n3　问：该文件并未说这是目的之一。\n\n4　它说这是该目的，对吗？\n\n5　MITCHELL先生（米切尔）：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n6　答：该文件称，该美国特殊目的实体\n\n7　是持有一项位于某地址之物业的特殊目的实体，\n\n8　并提及 The Sherry-Netherland 的\n\n9　第18层。\n\n10　问：您说持有该公寓是目的之一，\n\n11　而我只是说，该文件称美国特殊目的实体的目的，\n\n12　对吗？\n\n13　不是目的之一。\n\n14　答：是。\n\n15　问：该文件还称，英属维尔京群岛公司\n\n16　的目的是持有 Genever New York，而不是目的之一，\n\n17　对吗？\n\n18　答：对。但这是目的之一。\n\n20　问：该文件在第4项中称，“为免生疑义，\n\n21　受托人持有英属维尔京群岛公司及美国特殊目的实体”，\n\n22　这两者就是两个 Genever 实体，对吗？\n\n23　答：是。\n\n24　问：“受托人为所有人以信托方式持有该等 Genever\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 110 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　实体。”\n\n3　而所有人是 Bravo Luck（好运）；这是否\n\n4　正确？\n\n5　答：是。\n\n6　问：文件称，所有人，即 Bravo Luck，\n\n7　是纽约——Genever New York 和 Genever BVI 的\n\n8　实益所有人”，\n\n9　对吗？\n\n10　答：该文件是这么写的，是。\n\n11　问：这是否与 Genever 的\n\n12　理解一致？\n\n13　答：是。\n\n14　问：Genever New York 或 Kwok先生（郭文贵）\n\n15　在申请租赁时，是否曾向 The Sherry-Netherland 披露，\n\n16　Bravo Luck\n\n17　将成为该等 Genever 实体的实益所有人？\n\n18　答：我不知道。\n\n19　问：您认为 The Sherry-Netherland\n\n20　会想知道该公寓的实益所有人\n\n21　将会是谁吗？\n\n23　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议，要求证人作出推测。\n\n25　问：您可以回答。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 111 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　答：我不知道 The\n\n3　Sherry-Netherland 会想知道什么，\n\n4　但我知道他们知道资金来自\n\n5　Bravo Luck。\n\n6　问：在您为准备本次\n\n7　证言而审阅文件的过程中，您是否见到任何证明\n\n8　The Sherry-Netherland 知道 Bravo Luck\n\n9　将成为该公寓\n\n10　实益所有人的文件？\n\n12　答：我在为今天作准备时没有看到任何此类文件。\n\n14　问：您看到第3节中受托人的承诺了吗？\n\n15　看到那些承诺了吗？\n\n16　答：我们还在第1页吗？\n\n17　问：抱歉。第3节，“受托人\n\n18　进一步向所有人承诺。”\n\n19　您看到了吗？\n\n20　答：哦。是，是，是。\n\n21　问：您也看到第一页中\n\n22　受托人是 Kwok先生了吗？\n\n23　答：是。\n\n24　问：那么请看第3.4条，“受托人\n\n25　承诺，其不会在……之上设定或允许设定\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 112 页，共 140 页\n\nPODHASKIE\n\n任何负担、抵押或留置权\n\n于英属维尔京群岛公司、美国特殊目的实体和／或\n\n由英属维尔京群岛公司和／或美国特殊目的实体持有的资产之上，除非事先获得\n\n所有人及\n\n共同所有人的书面批准。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：根据本协议，向 Blue Capital（蓝色资本）及\n\nRoscalitar 2（罗斯卡利塔尔2）的质押将需要\n\n所有人及共同所有人的事先书面\n\n批准；对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：而所有人是 Bravo Luck？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：共同所有人是谁？如果您看背景部分，\n\n第1页第543行第6节，“所有人向\n\n受托人告知，某些当事人”——“第三方\n\n可根据合作计划通过所有人共同拥有该财产，\n\n且受托人亦为该等\n\n第三方担任受托人。”\n\n您知道那些共同所有人的第三方\n\n是谁吗？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 113 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　答：我不知道。\n\n3　问：是否——\n\n4　答：抱歉。我不知道共同所有人是谁。\n\n5　所有人被定义为 Bravo\n\n6　Luck。\n\n7　问：是。受托人 Kwok先生\n\n8　在将 Genever BVI 的股份质押给\n\n9　Roscalitar 2 或 Blue Capital 之前，是否取得了\n\n10　所有人 Bravo Luck 或任何共同所有人的事先书面\n\n11　批准？\n\n12　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n14　答：我不知道。\n\n15　问：您是否见到任何文件表明\n\n16　已取得该等书面批准？\n\n18　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n20　答：我在为今天作准备时没有看到任何此类文件。\n\n22　问：截至2015年初，当 Kwok先生向 The Sherry-Netherland 董事会\n\n23　提出申请时，谁拥有 Bravo Luck？\n\n25　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 114 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　问题。\n\n3　答：我认为，截至2015年1月，Bravo\n\n4　Luck 由 Guo Qiang（郭强）拥有。\n\n5　问：Kwok先生本人是否也是 Bravo\n\n6　Luck 的50 percent所有人？\n\n8　答：我认为，郭强在那段时间前后将\n\n9　Bravo Luck 50 percent的所有权转让给了\n\n10　他的父亲。\n\n11　问：顺便问一下，郭强从事什么\n\n12　行业？\n\n13　答：金融业。\n\n14　（Podhaskie证物10，Stevenson Wong（黄史蒂文森）于2015年3月4日出具的信函，\n\n15　标记以供识别。）\n\n17　问：Podhaskie先生，现已向您出示\n\n18　证物10，即 Stevenson Wong 于2015年3月4日致\n\n19　The Sherry-Netherland 董事会的一封信，\n\n20　涉及 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）先生申请\n\n21　成为 The Sherry-Netherland, Inc. 的股东，\n\n22　以及 Bravo Luck Limited（好运有限公司）这家公司。\n\n24　您看到了吗？\n\n25　答：是。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 115 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　问：Stevenson Wong 是否就 Kwok先生\n\n3　申请成为 The Sherry-Netherland 股东一事\n\n4　代理 Kwok先生？\n\n5　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n7　此外，这超出了第30(b)(6)项通知的范围。如果\n\n8　他具有相关知识，我会允许他\n\n9　回答，但请记录我的异议。\n\n12　MOSS先生（莫斯）：嗯，Genever New York\n\n13　是一个——\n\n14　MITCHELL先生：如果您问的是\n\n15　Genever New York。您具体问的是\n\n16　Kwok先生，他的律师\n\n17　是谁。\n\n18　MOSS先生：当然。但 Kwok先生是\n\n19　代表一个实体购买该物业，\n\n20　即 Genever New York。\n\n21　MITCHELL先生：您是在问该\n\n22　实体吗？\n\n23　莫斯先生提问：\n\n24　问：我问的是，Stevenson Wong 的角色是什么——Stevenson Wong\n\n25　代理的是谁\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 116 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　与 The Sherry-Netherland 申请相关？\n\n4　答：我不知道。根据这封信，\n\n5　看起来他们代理的是 Kwok先生或\n\n6　其家人，但我不知道。\n\n7　问：如果您看第——第二页，SN74，Stevenson Wong 写道：“我们确认，\n\n8　A，公司”，其在前页被定义为 Bravo Luck，“在法律上和实益上\n\n9　分别由 Kwok Ho Wan先生持有50 percent，\n\n10　并由 Guo Qiang先生持有50 percent。”\n\n14　您看到了吗？\n\n15　答：是。\n\n16　问：截至2015年3月4日，Kwok先生持有 Bravo Luck 的\n\n17　50 percent，是否正确？\n\n18　答：这封信反映的是这一点。\n\n19　我今天并未准备讨论\n\n20　Bravo Luck 的所有权问题。\n\n21　问：您是否有任何理由认为\n\n22　该文件不准确？\n\n23　答：没有。\n\n24　问：您是否知道 Bravo Luck——您是否知道 Kwok先生在 Bravo Luck 中的\n\n25　所有权权益\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 117 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　自2015年3月4日以来是增加、\n\n3　减少，还是保持不变？\n\n5　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。再次，我认为这\n\n6　超出了范围。我会允许他在\n\n7　具有相关知识的情况下回答，但是——\n\n9　答：据我了解，郭强目前是 Bravo Luck 的\n\n10　100 percent所有人。\n\n11　问：您是否了解 Kwok先生失去其\n\n12　50 percent权益的过程？\n\n13　MITCHELL先生：同样的异议。\n\n14　答：我不知道。\n\n15　问：您知道这发生在何时吗？\n\n16　MITCHELL先生：同样的异议。\n\n17　答：我不知道。\n\n18　问：您是否见到任何与\n\n19　该转让有关的文件？\n\n20　MITCHELL先生：同样的异议。\n\n21　答：没有在我为今天的\n\n22　证言所作准备中见到。\n\n23　MOSS先生：我们现在休庭一下怎么样？\n\n24　让我们停止记录。\n\n25　录像员：我们现在停止记录。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 118 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　停止记录。时间为下午5:27。\n\n3　（休庭。）\n\n4　录像员：我们现恢复记录。\n\n5　时间为下午5:36。\n\n6　莫斯先生提问：\n\n7　问：Podhaskie先生，您今天回答了许多问题，\n\n8　根据我在审阅中能够获得的文件，\n\n9　以“是”或“否”作答。\n\n10　您是否能够查阅 Genever New\n\n11　York 和 Genever BVI 的完整文件？\n\n12　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n14　我不知道那是否确实是\n\n15　他所说的，但我知道您是在\n\n16　转述，不过……\n\n17　MOSS先生：好的。\n\n18　答：无论他们有什么，我都审阅了。\n\n19　问：您是否曾要求查阅任何\n\n20　没有提供给您的文件？\n\n21　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n23　答：没有。\n\n24　问：您是否有任何理由认为您的审阅中\n\n25　缺少文件？\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 119 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　审阅？\n\n3　答：我不知道。我没有理由认为缺少了任何东西，我不知道。\n\n5　问：您是否见到任何提及\n\n6　郭强控制 Genever\n\n7　BVI 这一事实的文件？\n\n8　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n10　答：有一份文件表明\n\n11　他是 Genever BVI 的总裁。除此以外，\n\n12　没有。\n\n13　问：您是否知道该文件是否已在本诉讼中\n\n14　向我们提交？\n\n15　答：我不知道。我相信已经提交了，但\n\n16　我不知道。\n\n17　问：您是否曾见到任何文件\n\n18　规定 Genever BVI 授权郭强\n\n19　代表 Genever New York 行事？\n\n20　答：有一份文件表明郭强\n\n21　成为 Genever New York 的获授权人。\n\n22　我不记得是谁签署的或者是什么文件，\n\n23　但我记得看到过一份文件表明\n\n24　他是获授权人，而且郭强\n\n25　签署了 Genever 的 EIN 申请表\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 1604-23 于 03/27/23 提交，于 03/27/23 14:12:10 登记 第 120 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　New York。\n\n3　问：您是否曾见到任何文件，或者在您的\n\n4　审阅过程中是否见到任何文件，表明 Yvette Wang（王伊维特）\n\n5　曾在 Genever BVI 或 Genever New York 中担任任何角色？\n\n7　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议。\n\n9　答：我知道她曾就本诉讼签署一份宣誓书，\n\n10　其中就 Genever 和 The\n\n11　Sherry-Netherland 作出了陈述。除此以外，我\n\n12　不记得。\n\n14　问：您知道她从何处取得其宣誓书中\n\n15　有关 Genever 和 The Sherry-Netherland 的\n\n16　信息吗？\n\n17　MITCHELL先生：对问题的形式提出异议，而且我认为这超出了\n\n18　第30(b)(6)项的范围。\n\n20　如果他具有相关知识，我很乐意\n\n21　让他回答。\n\n22　MOSS先生：好的。\n\n23　答：我不知道。\n\n24　MOSS先生：目前没有其他问题了。\n\n25　谢谢您，Podhaskie先生。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 121 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　MITCHELL先生：在您开始停止记录之前，我只想向Podhaskie先生提出几个问题，以澄清记录。\n\n6　MOSS先生：当然。\n\n7　询问\n\n8　由MITCHELL先生进行：\n\n9　问：Podhaskie先生，今天向您出示了若干份证据。其中一份证据是Podhaskie 3——准确地说，是证据3。\n\n12　答：是。\n\n13　问：请注意，在提出问题时，这些文件是通过贝茨编号标记的，即Kwok，后接一个编号。您看到了吗？\n\n17　答：是。\n\n18　问：现在看Podhaskie——您是否理解，这些文件是Kwok先生的律师就本诉讼提供的？\n\n22　MOSS先生：反对，该问题具有诱导性。\n\n23　答：是。\n\n24　问：查看证据Podhaskie 4，您是否看到任何此类贝茨编号标记？\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 122 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　答：没有。\n\n3　问：在今天之前，您是否记得见过这份文件？\n\n5　MOSS先生：哪份文件？\n\n6　MITCHELL先生：我们正在讨论的证据4。\n\n8　MOSS先生：好的。\n\n9　答：我想我可能曾在审阅与本诉讼有关的已提交文件时见过它，但除此之外，没有。\n\n12　问：在您审阅文件时，Genever BVI（杰内弗英属维尔京群岛）和Genever New York（杰内弗纽约）——如同今天在此所称——您为准备本次证言而审阅时，是否在其记录中看到过这些文件？\n\n18　MOSS先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n19　答：我是否见过证据4？\n\n20　问：证据4，正确。\n\n21　MOSS先生：我不知道“那些文件”是什么意思。\n\n23　问：证据4，即构成证据4的这一组页面。\n\n25　答：那么，我是否在为今天的证言而审阅的文件中见过证据4？\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 123 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　问：正确。\n\n5　答：我是在——如果我没记错——在审阅纽约诉讼中提交的文件时见过它。\n\n8　问：它是否包含在您为今天作准备而审阅的记录中？\n\n10　答：由Genever New York保存的记录？\n\n12　问：正确。\n\n13　答：以及Genever BVI的记录？我认为没有。\n\n14　问：证据5，您是否在该文件上看到贝茨编号标记？\n\n16　答：（审阅文件。）没有。\n\n17　问：现在，这份文件似乎已在本诉讼中，或者至少在某一诉讼中提交。我相信那是本案的案卷编号。\n\n21　答：是，看起来如此。\n\n22　问：您是否记得在今天之前见过这份文件？\n\n24　答：再次，我想我可能曾在审阅诉讼档案时，将其作为在该诉讼中提交的文件见过。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 124 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n3　问：您是否记得在Genever New York保存的账簿和记录中见过这份文件？\n\n6　答：我不记得，没有。\n\n7　问：Genever BVI呢？\n\n8　答：我不记得。\n\n9　问：证据6，即该备忘录？\n\n10　答：是。\n\n11　问：您是否看到上面有任何贝茨编号标记？\n\n13　答：（审阅文件。）没有。\n\n14　问：但有一个案卷提交编号，正确吗？\n\n16　答：是。\n\n17　问：您是否记得在Genever New York保存的账簿和记录中见过这份文件？\n\n20　答：证据6？\n\n21　问：正确。\n\n22　答：没有。\n\n23　问：Genever BVI？\n\n24　答：没有。\n\n25　问：证据7，您是否看到贝茨编号\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 125 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　问：在您找到该文件后，您是否看到该文件上有贝茨编号？\n\n3　答：（审阅文件。）没有。\n\n4　问：您是否知道——在顶部，您是否看到它已在eCourt的提交系统中就本程序提交？\n\n7　答：您所说的“本程序”是指该诉讼？\n\n9　问：正确。\n\n10　答：是。\n\n11　问：在您审阅Genever New York的账簿和记录时，您是否记得见过这份文件？\n\n14　答：我不记得。\n\n15　问：在您审阅Genever BVI的账簿和记录时，您是否记得见过这份文件？\n\n18　答：我不记得。\n\n19　问：证据8，您是否看到这里有贝茨编号？\n\n21　答：没有。\n\n22　问：就证据8而言，在顶部，您是否看到——您是否同意，它已在本诉讼中向New York County Clerk（纽约县书记官）提交？\n\n25　MOSS先生：反对，该问题具有诱导性。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 126 页，共 140 页\n\n1　PODHASKIE\n\n2　答：是。\n\n3　问：在今天之前，您是否记得见过这份文件？\n\n5　答：我想我会是在审阅诉讼档案时见过它。\n\n8　问：在您审阅Genever New York的账簿和记录时，您是否记得见过这份文件？\n\n11　答：我不记得。\n\n12　问：在您审阅Genever BVI的账簿和记录时，您是否记得见过这份文件？\n\n15　答：我不记得。\n\n16　MITCHELL先生：没有更多问题。\n\n17　MOSS先生：没有问题。\n\n18　SARNOFF先生：谢谢。\n\n19　录像记录员：今天的证言到此结束。我们现在停止记录。时间为下午5:46。谢谢。\n\n23　（记录时间：下午5:46。）\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 127 页，共 140 页\n\n1　确认书\n\n3　州　）\n\n4　：ss\n\n5　县　）\n\n7　本人，DANIEL PODHASKIE（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基），特此证明：我已阅读在本人证言中宣誓作出的证词记录；该记录是本人证词真实、完整且正确的记录，且本人在记录中作出的答复真实且正确。\n\n16　________________________\n\n17　DANIEL PODHASKIE\n\n20　在本人面前于____年______________第_______日签署并宣誓。\n\n24　________________________________________\n\n25　___________州公证人\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 128 页，共 140 页\n\n1　证明书\n\n3　STATE OF NEW YORK（纽约州）　）\n\n4　：ss\n\n5　COUNTY OF RICHMOND（里士满县）　）\n\n7　本人，MELISSA GILMORE（梅丽莎·吉尔莫尔），纽约州境内及代表纽约州行事的公证人，特此证明：\n\n10　上述载明其证言的证人DANIEL PODHASKIE，已由本人依法宣誓，且该证言为该证人所作证词的真实记录。\n\n15　本人进一步证明：本人并非通过血缘或婚姻关系与本诉讼任何一方有亲属关系；且本人对本事项的结果不具有任何利害关系。\n\n19　特此为证，本人于2019年12月16日签字。\n\n24　________________________________________\n\n25　MELISSA GILMORE\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 129 页，共 140 页\n\n勘误表\n\nELLEN GRAUER COURT REPORTING CO., LLC（艾伦·格劳尔法庭记录有限责任公司）\n\n126 East 56th Street, Fifth Floor\n\nNew York, New York 10022\n\n212-750-6434\n\n证言日期：DECEMBER 11, 2019\n\n行号\n\n原文\n\n改为\n\n理由\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n____ _____ ___________ ___________ _____________\n\n于____年__________第____日于本人面前签署并宣誓。\n\n（公证人）\n\n本人委任届满日期：\n\n案件名称：PACIFIC ALLIANCE（太平洋联盟） v. KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵）\n\n证人姓名：DANIEL PODHASKIE\n\n页码\n\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵） 案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 130 页，共 140 页\n\n此外 (1)　已回答 (12)　资产 (29)　返回 (5)\n\n$　113:7　18:13;19:5;47:18;　14:14;25:10;47:4,　43:11,15;75:3;80:6;\n\n地址 (22)　60:24;62:3,7,8;63:5;　15,19;48:9,13,15,16,　116:4\n\n$3 (1)　16:19;34:24;35:7,8,　86:20;95:5;99:11;　背景 (3)\n\n101:12　16,16,21,23;36:3,6,　116:7　51:9;59:5,16;61:4,15,　105:6,22;110:17\n\n14,25;39:24;40:6,6;　分开 (2)　23,24;62:10;63:2;　不良 (1)\n\nA　97:8,16,18,21,25;　86:14;98:6　100:8;101:3,17,21;　81:17\n\n98:4,20　公寓 (24)　102:16;110:3　银行 (17)\n\nAARON (1)　地址 (4)　24:14;59:8;73:21;　指定 (1)　27:4;40:12;88:5,7,\n\n3:7　35:20;36:12;97:23;　74:2,5,10;75:16,22;　71:5　13,15;89:6,19,22;\n\naaron@lmesqcom (1)　98:6　76:2,7,24;77:4,21;　已指定 (2)　90:4,7;100:11,13,17,\n\n3:9　增加 (1)　78:18,25;80:2;83:20;　50:13;70:23　19,22;101:24\n\n能够 (1)　30:11　84:2,22;87:7;97:19;　指定事项 (1)　基于 (13)\n\n36:2　执行 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(5)　99:8,14,17,20,21;　72:4\n\n等 (1)　批准 (4)　60:5,17;61:21;65:2,　100:6;117:18,21,24　此外 (8)\n\n110:22　78:19　7　101:17;104:11\n\n行为 (4)　Albany（奥尔巴尼） (1)　论点 (1)　大道 (2)　最佳 (2)\n\n41:15,22;42:3;　98:2　91:12　3:5;97:11　13:23;64:15\n\n80:24　Alliance（联盟） (1)　周围 (8)　避免 (1)　账单 (1)\n\n活动 (2)　7:6　53:7,11,16;70:3;　107:21　91:8\n\n52:17;53:16　Alliance的 (2)　83:10;85:20;100:5;　知悉 (18)　区块 (1)\n\n法案 (2)　67:17;68:8　112:10　24:5;36:16;38:19,　45:7\n\n23:4;46:3　允许 (5)　Asia（亚洲） (1)　22,23;50:9;67:20;　Blue（蓝色） (14)\n\n实际的 (1)　11:23;63:20;　7:6　70:17;72:8;90:13;　26:22;53:23;54:2,5,\n\n84:5　109:25;113:9;115:7　主张 (1)　97:24;98:3,8;101:22,　11,14,19;66:4;67:21;\n\n实际上 (1)　金额 (1)　12:3　23;102:14,15,23　69:12;73:10;102:22;\n\n97:24　30:18　主张 (1)　110:9;111:11　董事会 (8)\n\n增加 (1)　和/或 (2)　91:11　资产 (10)　39:2,12;52:16;\n\n70:2　110:3,4　资产 (10)　25:3,6,9;46:13,18,　52:16;\n\n已增加 (2)　Andrea（安德烈娅） (2)　22;47:8,11,24;48:3\n\n25:21;86:25　45:15;80:19\n\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.诉KWOK HO WAN 案件 22-50073 文件 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 131 页，共 140 页\n\nDANIEL PODHASKIE 2019年12月11日\n\n英语\n\n53:15;72:4;96:25;\n111:23;112:19　48:3,19,23;49:5;\n50:11,13,23;51:3,4,　69:12;73:10;102:23;\n110:9;111:11　沟通 (2)\n13:2,8　谈话 (4)\n16:10;26:2;27:3;\n\n账簿 (10)　12,13,24;53:22;54:5,　案件 (4)　已沟通 (2)　28:2\n35:22;36:7,10,14;　25;55:10,21;56:5,14;　19:22;49:25;75:7;　42:16,19　合作 (1)\n122:4,18;123:12,16;　57:13,23;59:5,6,17,　121:20　公司（复数） (3)　110:21\n124:9,12　22;61:4,15,19,20,24;　原因 (1)　23:4;29:9;61:20　共同拥有 (1)\n双方 (10)　62:10,12;63:2,7,10;　82:9　公司（单数） (25)　110:20\n13:19;14:7,9,11,15;　64:2,4,7,11,16,22;　注意 (3)　7:16,19;22:7;24:8,　共同所有人 (1)\n83:19;92:17;93:13,　65:6;66:13;67:12,15;　32:3;40:10;52:12　10;32:10;36:4;40:22;　110:24\n17,24　69:21;70:11,12,13,19,　美分 (1)　46:18,21;53:23;　共同所有人（复数） (6)\n底部 (3)\n21:14;103:14,16　20,22;71:2,6;72:14;\n73:15;74:3;77:14,23;　29:24\n某些 (4)　74:11;75:16,23;76:3;\n105:9,11,14,24;　110:6,11,16,17;\n111:5,9\n\nBravo (26)　80:11,13,25;81:7,10,　52:8;100:5;103:23;　107:16,22;110:3,4;　副本 (1)\n28:7;32:9,13;73:18;　18;83:8,18;84:10,18,　110:19　112:23;114:9　74:18\n102:10;103:7;104:14;　19;85:18,23;86:8;　当然 (3)　汇编 (1)　副本（单数） (18)\n108:3,7,16;109:5,9;　90:11,15;91:3,18;　11:23;63:21;65:12　20:14　21:7;23:10,18;\n110:14;111:5,8,24;　94:5,12,16;95:2,22;　确定性 (1)　完整 (2)　29:15,21;45:5;55:10,\n112:3,6,9,23;114:10,　98:24;99:21,23,24;　80:4　80:24;125:10　17;57:4,8;64:8,12;\n17,20,24;115:2,10　102:11;104:18;105:9,　证书 (7)　复杂 (1)　65:25;66:9;69:8,15,\n中断 (1)　12,23,24;106:8;　23:5,11;29:16;　48:14　16;103:10\n115:23　107:15,22;108:8;　39:21;55:3;65:15,25　得出结论 (1)　法人 (21)\n简要 (4)　110:3,4;111:10;　证明 (1)　124:19　8:9;9:15;10:2;\n15:3,4;60:6;63:11\n简要地 (1)　117:7,11,18;118:6;\n120:13;121:13;122:7,　125:7\n已变更 (2)　结论 (1)\n68:23　11:16;12:10,18;\n13:18;14:2,8;19:21;\n14:18　23;124:13　25:16;86:23　进行 (3)　20:7,17;33:11;34:21;\nBritish（英国） (4)　BVI's（英属维尔京群岛的） (19)　指控 (21)　26:5,9;87:5　35:5;39:19;41:20;\n22:5;23:4;34:25;　14:13;28:13;30:22;　36:9;55:4,18,20;　确认 (1)　53:16;77:24;78:15;\n98:19　32:19;45:5;47:15;　56:20,24;57:6,9;60:5,　114:8　99:5\n更广泛的 (1)　48:9,15;50:19;54:14;　16;64:3,25;65:16;　关联 (18)　Corporation（公司） (23)\n15:22　57:17;65:4;66:8,16;　66:2,3;67:16;69:4,10,　12:8;16:14;19:12;　8:24;9:8;22:4,5,6,\n经纪人 (1)　78:14;90:23;98:20;　12,16;110:2　40:25;49:20;66:5;　17;23:6;29:11;30:7;\n42:19　116:11;123:15　指控（复数） (1)　91:19;93:9;104:23;　31:9;44:22;76:8,12,\n\n业务 (20)　65:6　113:3;114:2;118:10;　14,17,21;77:9,12;\n14:7;26:4,8;29:9;　C　Chase (4)　120:10,25;121:2,5,6;　80:17,24,25;100:11;\n34:21;35:4;42:7;46:6;　88:8;100:12;101:5,　124:6　105:9\n55:23;56:6,16;57:14;　称为 (7)　17　Connolly (2)　公司（复数） (2)\n61:20;64:5;66:14;\n69:22;86:22;87:4,8;　8:1;13:10,12;26:21,\n22;50:20;53:23　支票 (1)\n27:20　45:19;82:4\n同意 (4)　84:4;85:4\n正确地 (1)\n112:11　打电话 (1)　China（中国） (4)　44:22;45:5,22;　22:8\n购买 (5)　65:22　31:22;88:19,21,25　46:11　律师 (4)\n15:7,18;24:18;25:6;　电话 (2)　选择 (1)　考虑 (2)　7:20;74:20;104:22,\n51:21　68:22;108:24　25:13　37:15;47:10　22\n购买行为 (1)　来到 (6)　City（城市） (1)　认为 (1)　律师的 (2)\n113:19　28:4,7;53:4;89:15;　46:7　47:14　91:14,15\nBVI（英属维尔京群岛） (203)　109:4;115:11　澄清 (3)　一致的 (3)　County（县） (3)\n8:24;9:4,7,20;10:5,　可以 (41)　13:4;43:10;92:12　57:16;85:14;108:11　7:9;123:24;125:5\n12;11:9,17;13:19;　10:14,15,23;11:13;　澄清 (1)　所含 (1)　一对 (3)\n14:7,9,12,15;16:22;\n17:5;19:19;21:4;23:4,　13:23;14:24;16:17;\n18:3;19:2;20:23;21:9;　119:5\n清晰度 (1)　121:8\n续 (1)　33:21,25;119:3\n过程 (12)\n12,19,20,24;24:6;　23:2,7;24:24;25:19;　28:19　3:1　29:3;33:6;55:22;\n25:15;26:4,8,14,20,　26:16,18;29:6,13;　清楚的 (4)　合同 (3)　56:5,15;57:14;64:4,\n24;27:4,7,14,15,17,　34:5;41:19;42:3;　43:17,21;48:17;　26:16;50:2;87:11　17;66:13;69:22;\n23;28:8;29:9,16;30:8,　44:19,24;46:10;　73:5　合同（复数） (3)　109:6;118:4\n21;31:2,6,12;32:15,　48:14;55:8;56:13;　书记员 (1)　26:15,25;87:11　法院 (6)\n21;33:2,6,12,24;34:2,　57:2;63:19,23;65:12,　123:24　控制 (4)　6:17;7:8,17,24;\n8,16;35:4,8,10,15,18;　20;66:22;69:7;77:24;　客户 (1)　94:16,20,25;117:6　60:11;63:12\n36:14,17,20,24;37:3,\n7,11;38:2,8,21;39:2,　78:15;84:25;91:11;　93:19\n同事 (1)　受控制 (1)\n52:23　契约 (4)\n109:14,15,18,25\n12,15;40:15,24;41:7,　94:2;108:25\n能力 (2)　31:21　控制（复数） (2)　涵盖 (1)\n10,16,23;42:9,16,22;　43:24;46:24　收集 (2)　52:25;54:10　101:15\n43:4,8,19,22,24;44:5,　Capital（资本） (14)　19:21;20:6　谈话（单数） (5)　已涵盖 (1)\n10,15;45:21;46:14;\n47:3,9,10,14,19,23;　26:22;53:23;54:2,5,\n11,15,19;66:4;67:22;　纪念 (1)\n52:17　12:17;13:25;15:25;\n16:9,12　11:10\n创建 (1)\n\nMin-U-Script® Ellen Grauer Court Reporting Co. LLC（艾伦·格劳尔法庭记录公司有限责任公司） (2) 账簿 - 创建\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵） 案号 22-50073 文档 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 132 页，共 140 页\n\n109:25　55:16;63:16;70:8;　121:15,16,17,22;　Ellen（艾伦） (2)　7:7\n\n已创建 (1)　74:16,19;75:13;　122:3,13,17;123:2,3,　7:15,18　甚至 (1)\n110:2　109:8;115:22;120:15;　13,17;124:4,10,14　其他 (11)　95:2\n目前 (11)　121:3;124:20;125:9　文件 (61)　12:16,20;14:17;　证明 (1)\n14:15;34:11,12;　指定 (1)　19:21;20:2,3,7,14,　16:23;24:4;31:11;　109:8\n\n41:11;48:10,19;49:9,　11:16　17;21:10;23:16;26:2;　77:18,25;78:16;　确切地 (4)\n14,16;54:24;115:10　DI (2)　27:2;28:2,11;29:19;　87:21,25　24:20;67:9;85:19;\n剪切 (1)　91:10;93:19　不同的 (2)　30:15,23;31:17;　电子邮件 (2)　116:14\n27:20　25:12;42:14　直接 (9)　32:16,18,22;38:13;　3:9;36:24　询问 (2)\nD　19:25;20:19;29:6;　39:6,13,15,19,25;　受雇 (1)　8:6;119:7\nDAN (2)　44:19;58:15,16;80:7;　41:21;42:16,22,22;　19:9　已询问 (1)\n3:14;7:14　84:23;105:5　43:23;44:17;45:3;　雇员 (3)　8:3\nDaniel（丹尼尔） (3)　董事 (23)　47:21;56:4,14;57:24;　36:18;96:16,19　除外 (1)\n7:4;125:7,17　32:25;33:13,14,16,　63:17;65:5;85:23;　雇主 (2)　6:9\n日期 (7)　17,17,23,24;34:2,8,　86:13;95:13;97:5;　42:25,25　已签署 (1)\n7:12;20:21,25;21:8;　10,11,13,14;37:15;　98:10,18,20,25;99:3,　设定负担 (6)　117:22\n59:16;61:18;71:16　44:22;45:6;46:12;　5;102:2;109:7;　48:10;49:10,13;　证物 (47)\n注明日期的 (9)　66:17;67:12;80:16;　111:15;115:18;116:9,　50:6;102:5,16　9:15,19;10:4,9,11,\n21:2;45:6;57:6;　20,25;119:19;120:10,　负担（复数） (1)　15,16,24,24;17:9;\n59:14;66:2;69:10;　13,16,22;121:2　102:14　美元 (4)　20:6,13;44:20;55:3,7,\n103:11;112:15,19　95:2;99:23　结束 (1)　20;56:18,22;58:2,8;\n日期（复数） (1)　董事（复数） (10)　30:2,3,8,13　64:18　65:15,18;69:2,5;\n96:25;112:20　33:7,10;37:21,23;　已完成 (1)　已结束 (3)　74:15;75:12;80:6;\n疑问 (1)　38:9;39:21;95:15,17;　42:6　24:15;32:12;84:12　84:24;86:4;102:25;\n53:10\n日 (7)　董事的 (3)　107:21　42:7　119:11,24;120:6,19,\n21:3;33:17,21,24;　20:21,25;21:8　向下 (3)　England（英格兰） (1)　20,23,24,25;121:14;\n34:10;37:19;125:21　已支付 (1)　58:22,23;105:6　13:15　122:9,20,25;123:19,\n天数 (5)　87:15　期间 (5)　足够 (1)　22\n33:21,25;83:9;　披露 (1)　13:25;29:3;32:19;　101:14　证物（复数） (5)\n85:18;86:14　108:15　33:6;74:19　录入 (4)　56:2,3,3;119:10,11\n债务 (1)　讨论 (3)　职责 (1)　82:10,17,24;86:17　存在 (1)\n27:19　12:8,20;13:16　19:11　已录入 (10)　46:5\nDecember（十二月） (2)　已讨论 (10)　26:14,19,20,24;　存在 (5)\n7:13;16:4　13:17;14:6,8,10,12,　E　52:10;66:19;67:10,　30:22;32:20;33:7;\n决定 (3)　14,18;16:18,19;　16;87:10;103:12　94:7,14\n51:23;52:6;54:14　102:22　较早 (6)　录入 (1)　预期 (2)\n声明 (1)　讨论 (3)　43:12;53:20;64:2;　50:2　整体 (5)　63:21;65:13\n102:25　14:22;15:3,5　67:21;75:13;102:22　30:21;59:9;61:5;　经验 (1)\n减少 (1)　讨论（复数） (8)　早期 (1)　94:7,13　64:22\n115:3　11:25;67:14;70:3,　111:22　ECF (1)　实体（复数） (12)　已解释 (1)\n视为 (2)　12;72:13,20;73:3,13　75:8　3:4;8:9,12;19:23;　58:18\n83:7,13　争议 (1)　eCourt 的 (1)　20:18;93:8,18,25;　延长 (1)\n\n被告 (1)　91:25　123:6　103:8;107:23;108:2,　79:7\n58:11　区分 (1)　效力 (1)　18　范围 (1)\n被告的 (2)　31:7　6:16　标题为 (3)　80:23\n58:2,8　案卷 (2)　有效的 (7)　20:21,24;44:21　额外的 (1)\n定义 (3)　121:20;122:14　21:2;59:23;61:18;　74:18\n10:12;111:5;114:9　文件 (74)　62:13;63:7;69:10;　实体 (19)\n界定 (1)　10:9;20:23,24;　85:12　8:16,23;9:4;21:5;　F\n105:8　22:12,18,20;23:2,14;　EIN (2)　26:21,22;27:8,12,13,\nDepartment（部门） (1)　29:14,18;44:21,24,25;　42:25;117:25　16;28:9;50:20;85:7;　设施 (2)\n85:4　45:13,15;55:8,9,19,　任一 (7)　93:8,13,16,23;113:19,　54:4,6\n作证 (1)　21;56:17;57:2,12;　40:21,23;45:18;　22　事实 (4)\n78:10　58:12;59:14;60:15;　3:7　117:6\n\n64:3,8,12,14,17,18;\n90:6　65:20,24;66:9,10,12;　111:10　已确立 (1)　虚假的 (5)\n69:20;84:25;85:2,10,　详细说明 (1)　59:21　60:9,12,20;61:8,12\n6:13;7:4,11;9:16,　25;86:5;103:9;　26:18　遗产 (11)　熟悉的 (1)\n20;10:3,5,10,11,18,　105:17;106:7;107:3,　当选 (1)　24:9,13,16,19,20,　92:3\n25;11:5,15;12:13;　6,12;109:8;114:22;　38:4　25;42:19;83:6,12,15;　家庭 (4)\n已存入 (1)\n证言记录 (33)\n13:17;16:15;29:4;\n40:21;41:2,7,11;　117:5,10,14,17,20,23;\n118:3,4;120:4,5;　Elian (4)\n33:14,16,23;37:19　84:16\n及 (1)　15:20;31:24;84:16;\n114:6\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵） 案号 22-50073 文档 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 133 页，共 140 页\n\n远 (2)　78:18,25;82:18;　四 (2)　67:12,15;68:19,25;　16:2,9,12;23:25;\n\n21:9;29:17　97:15,20;106:20,25;　58:23;86:14　69:21;70:11,11,13,19,　28:22;32:11,11;\n父亲 (3)　107:8　前方 (2)　20,22;71:2,6,6;72:14,　34:14;36:11;37:5,13,\n15:9;72:2;112:10　重点 (2)　35:25;75:5　14;73:15,15;74:3,4;　25;38:4,10,12,17,24;\nFebruary（二月） (13)　19:19;60:7　完整的 (1)　76:9;77:13,13,23,23;　39:23;40:20,23;41:8,\n21:3;23:20;37:12,　遵循 (2)　116:11　78:14,14;80:11,12,13,　22;42:5;43:21;52:4;\n24;45:6;66:2;85:12,　91:13,15　Fund（基金） (1)　14,16,25;81:3,7,8,10,　54:3;66:5;70:7;71:12,\n\n如下（1）　7:7　11,11,18,19,19;82:8,　20;72:5;78:24;79:10,\n103:11　8:4　资助（2）　9,16,23;83:8,8,11,14,　15,18,25;83:25;84:6,\n感觉（1）　强制（1）　88:15;100:14　18,18;84:9,10,18,19,　11,16,20;88:23;94:19,\n20:3　6:16　资金（1）　19;85:5,7,10,17,18,　24;95:25;96:4;99:17,\n费用（12）　形式（113）　32:12　23;86:8,9,16,16,22;　24;100:6;103:20;\n87:19;88:2;90:23;　6:10;10:7;11:11;　进一步（5）　87:4,10,14,24;88:4;　104:2,5,11,14;112:4,\n91:4,19;92:9;93:4,7,　17:25;18:9;19:14;　6:8,12;109:18;　89:5,10,18,21;90:3,7,　8,11;114:12;115:9;\n13,17,24;100:16　21:15;23:8;24:22;　118:24;124:16　11,11,15,15,22,23;　117:6,18,20,24\n感觉到（2）　25:17,23;26:11;27:9;　未来（1）　91:3,4,18,18,23;92:5,\n84:7,20　30:9;31:3,13;34:3,18;　49:20　22;93:4,14,17,24;　H\n少数（3）　39:4,10,17;40:16;　94:5,6,7,10,12,13,13,\n85:22;90:17;91:24　41:5,12,17,24;42:10;　G　16,20,25;95:8,11,14,　手（1）\n第五（1）　44:7;46:2,8,15;47:5,　给予（1）　21,24;97:7,14,18,22;　19:20\n97:11　17;48:5,11;49:3,11,　51:21　98:5,9,17,18,20,24,　交付（8）\n文件（2）　22;50:7,15,21;51:14,　生成（1）　24;99:3,8,15,18,21,　9:24;55:6;56:22;\n121:25;124:7　25;57:19;59:19;60:2,　23,24,25;100:7,8,20;\n已提交（10）　13,21;61:10;62:2,17;　Genever（416）　101:2,6,16,20;102:5,　发生（1）\n39:20　74:18;112:17\n58:10;60:6;61:19;　63:13;64:19;65:8;　Genever（416）　101:2,6,16,20;102:5,　115:15\n63:11,17;120:10;　66:20;67:6,18;68:9,　3:4,13;8:12,16,20,　10,11,15;103:8;　发生（1）\n121:18;122:2;123:5,　15,21;69:17,23;70:15,　21,24;9:4,7,7,17,20;　104:18,18;105:9,12,　78:10\n23　24;71:8;72:17;73:22;　10:4,5,10,11;11:8,9,　14,16,24;106:4,8,8,　头（2）\n文件（3）　74:6,12;76:4,25;　17,17;13:19,19;14:7,　15,17,23;107:16,23,　35:25;71:17\n22:21;64:18;116:11　77:15;78:2,20;79:2,　8,9,10,12,12,13,14,15,　25;108:8,8,14,17;　持有（8）\n提交（3）　22;81:13;82:8,12,20;　16;15:15;16:20,21,22,　111:10;113:12,15,20;　7:11;14:15;47:19;\n6:6;122:14;123:6　83:2,21;86:11,19;　25;17:4,8,14,16,18,　116:10,11;117:6,11,　51:9;98:20;101:2,16;\n提交文件（1）　89:2,24;90:24;93:10;　22,24;18:7,13,20,25;　18,19,21,25;118:6,6,　110:3\n121:6　95:4;96:5;97:3,9;　19:6,9,13,19,23;　11,16;120:13,13;　有帮助的（1）\n财务（1）　98:11,21;99:10;　20:18;21:4;22:6,16;　121:10,13;122:5,7,18,　12:5\n112:13　100:2;101:7;102:7,　23:6,11,19,24;24:6,　23;123:11,15;124:8,　兹（3）\n查找（2）　19;104:8;107:5;　10,16;25:15;26:4,6,8,　13　Genever的（3）　6:3,6;125:7\n36:2;123:2　108:23;111:12,18,25;　9,14,19,24;27:4,7,14,　22:21;85:14;108:11　本文中（1）\n罚金（5）　113:5;115:5;116:12,　15,16;28:8,13;29:10,　16;30:7,7,21,22;31:2,　Gilmore（吉尔摩）（1）　6:5\n8:18;9:5;28:25;　21;117:8;118:7,17;　6,12;32:15,19,21;　7:18　其本人（3）\n29:5;43:16　120:18　6,12;32:15,19,21;　给定（1）　71:23;104:19;112:6\n律所（10）　正式的（1）　33:2,6,24;34:2,8,16;　125:12　雇用（1）\n45:18;82:4;90:16,　53:16　35:4,7,14,15;36:17,　高兴（1）　27:22\n20;91:5;92:6,13,14,　手续（1）　20,24;37:3,7,11;38:2,　Ho（郭）（5）\n16,21　13:18　8,21;39:2,12,15;　乐意地（1）　21:18,20;45:7;\n律所（1）　设立（13）　40:15,24;41:7,10,16,　78:12　112:21;114:12\n92:18　14:6;25:6,9,16;　23;42:8,16,22;43:4,6,　Golden（戈尔登）（9）　Hodgson（霍奇森）（8）\n律所的（1）　28:14;41:21;42:12;　8,18,19,22,24;44:5,6,　88:16,18,19,21,25;　7:12;58:11;60:5,8,\n92:9　43:13,21;81:20;　10,11,13,15,16,21;　89:15,17;90:8;100:14　17;90:16,23;92:15\n首次（13）　82:15;96:8;99:5　45:5,21;46:2,4,13,14,　货物（1）　持有（12）\n13:4;22:10,11;　已成立（27）　25;47:3,4,8,9,10,10,　27:21　35:14;48:24;49:6;\n33:14,17,23;75:21;　22:16;24:6,7;33:2;　14,14,15,19,20,23,24;　Grauer（格劳尔）（2）　83:19;84:10;100:9,\n80:10,18;103:16;　37:12,24;39:20;　48:3,4,9,15,19,20,23;　7:15,19　15,18;106:8,24;\n104:6;105:7;109:21　44:16;82:10,16;83:9,　49:5,6,9,25;50:6,11,　Great（大）（1）　107:11,16\n\n适合（2）　19;84:3,10,15;85:17,　13,19,23,25;51:3,4,9,　10:13　持有（6）\n83:7,13　18,20,23;86:6,6,8,10,　9,12,13,16,18,21,24;　Group（集团）（3）　30:7;105:25;\n五（6）　17;87:5;88:9;90:4　52:2;53:22;54:5,14,　88:19,21,25　106:18;107:7,21,25\n10:17,21,25;11:5;　成立（3）　25;55:10,21;56:5,14,　猜测（1）　Holdings（控股）（13）\n58:23;85:18　22:4;23:24;82:23　14;57:12,16,22;59:5,　43:20　8:13,21,24;9:8;\n翻转（2）　形式（1）　6,7,17,22;61:4,15,24;　Guo（郭）（71）　22:6,16;23:6;29:10;\n20:4;56:13　15:14　62:10,12;63:2,7,10,　11:18;12:23;13:6,　44:21;80:16;85:5;\n楼层（11）　基金会（1）　10,25;64:4,7,11,16;　12,13,24;15:20,23;　105:9,14\n76:24;77:4,21;　81:12　65:4;66:8,12,16;\n\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵）　案号 22-50073　文件 1604-23　提交日期 03/27/23　录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10　第 134 页，共 140 页\n\nHong（洪）（6）　42:8　12:12;42:5;63:22;　10:16,24;80:22　少量（1）\n\n35:21;36:15;40:6;　利息（21）　66:7,8;89:21;113:9;　后来（1）　48:14\n88:19,22,25　73:20;74:10;75:15,　115:8;118:20　53:21　居住（2）\n酒店（13）　22,25;76:7,8,11,13,　已知（3）　法律（4）　78:24;79:4\n14:20;24:14;77:21;　17,20,23;77:6,11,20;　22:6;60:17;110:18　58:3,9;92:6,9　居住（2）\n78:18;79:9,18;83:16;　78:6,17;83:19;84:11;　知道（1）　LAWALL（劳沃尔）（1）　31:22;97:19\n86:18;87:12;90:9;　88:24;115:2　65:12　3:3　LLC（有限责任公司）（6）\n91:24;98:7;100:24　权益（1）　Kong（孔）（6）　法律（1）　3:3;8:13,21;85:5;\n百（1）　95:11　35:22;36:15;40:7;　22:4　94:10;105:15\n51:7　进入（17）　88:19,22,25　诉讼（10）　LLP（有限责任合伙）（1）\n26:14,19,20,24;　Kwok（郭）（100）　67:17;68:8;90:12;　58:11\nI　50:2;52:10;66:19;　11:18;12:7,8,17;　91:19;92:8,23;93:9,　贷款（6）\n67:11,16;82:10,17,24;　14:13;15:21;19:24;　14,18,25　51:17,20;54:4,6,7;\n想法（4）　86:17;87:11;89:18;　21:18,20,22;22:13,16;　律师（2）　66:5\n71:18,24;72:3;84:6　90:7;103:12　23:23;28:14,15,16,21,　45:18;78:10　位于（1）\n识别（11）　投资（5）　22;29:22;30:13,18,20,　13:13\n9:18,21;20:8;42:25;　24:25;54:8;83:6,12;　25;31:15,19,24;　64:22　长（3）\n\n55:5;56:21;58:6;　84:17\n已投资（1）　32:25;33:8,18;34:2,7;\n37:17;38:6,16,20;　主要的（2）\n119:22;123:25　33:19;64:13;65:14\n看（18）\n65:17;69:4;103:3;\n112:16　83:14　40:20,23;41:15;45:8,　租赁（4）　10:14,16,23;19:25;\n已识别（1）　投资（1）　9;48:24;52:5;54:13;　68:14,19;77:3;　20:4;22:24;43:15;\n119:14　40:12　59:2,4,10;66:18;67:2,　108:16　59:13;75:20;80:18,\n识别（13）　投资（1）　3,11;70:14;71:12;　租赁（1）　22;81:22;86:3;\n20:23;23:2,7;29:13;　54:9　72:6,16;73:19,25;　76:9　103:14;105:22;\n44:24;55:8;57:2;　涉及（8）　75:15,24;76:6,19;　离开（2）　109:24;110:17;114:7\n65:20;69:7;77:25;　23:23;42:12,13;　77:11,19,19;78:19,23;　74:21;104:2　看过（2）\n78:16;84:25;100:21　43:13,13,21;52:5;　84:12,17;88:24;　左手（1）　25:12;85:22\n不准确（3）　54:13　91:17,23;92:5,23;　103:15　正在看（7）\n22:21;83:24;114:22　涉及（1）　93:13,17,24;94:16,20,　法律（13）　15:2,6,17;54:3;\nInc（股份有限公司）（1）　102:11　25;97:19;99:12,14,16,　7:15,19;63:17;　85:25;119:18,24\n112:22　Island（岛）（1）　22;102:10;104:17,18;　68:22;90:23;91:4,18;　看起来（2）\n包括（1）　23:4　108:14;109:22;111:7,　92:9;93:4,7,13,17,24　85:2;103:24\n59:7　Islands（群岛）（3）　22;112:5,21;113:3,16,　合法地（1）　丢失（1）\n注册成立（3）　22:5;34:25;98:19　18;114:5,11,17;　114:10　115:12\n23:20;29:9;85:11　115:12;119:15　借出（1）　很多（2）\nIncorporation（公司注册）（2）　J　KWOK143（2）　32:7　15:10;116:7\n23:5,11　20:7,16　借出（3）　LP（有限合伙企业）（1）\n增加（1）　January（一月）（1）　KWOK145（1）　31:22;32:6,9　7:7\n115:2　112:3　22:25　信函（4）　Luck（拉克）（26）\n发生（1）　Jersey（泽西）（1）　KWOK147（1）　112:14,18;114:4,18　28:7;32:9,13;73:18;\n27:19　3:6　29:8　责任（6）　102:10;103:7;104:15;\n索引（1）　JPMorgan（摩根大通）（2）　KWOK176（1）　46:18,21;74:11;　108:3,7,16;109:5,9;\n7:9　100:12;101:5　20:22　75:16,23;76:3　110:14;111:6,9,24;\n表明（2）　Judge（法官）（1）　KWOK193（3）　留置权（2）　112:4,7,9,23;114:10,\n12:15;117:23　49:24　44:20,23;80:8　49:16;110:2　17,20,25;115:2,10\n表明（1）　跳（1）　KWOK194（1）　有限（12）\n117:10　58:22　20:16　26:22;46:18,21;　M\n指明（1）　June（六月）（1）　Kwok的（26）　74:11;75:16,22;76:2;\n49:25　69:10　12:24;13:7;15:24;　88:20,22,25;104:15;　MACOM（2）\n个人（2）　Justice（司法）（4）　21:14;22:21;24:2;　112:23　3:14;7:14\n11:25;40:14　50:5;102:4,13,17　28:23;30:6;31:21;　行（1）　Madison（麦迪逊）（1）\n信息（1）　32:11;70:23;71:7;　21:19　3:5\n118:15　K　73:13;74:9,15,19;　行（1）　Magnanini（马尼亚尼尼）（2）\n最初（4）　75:12,21;76:11;　58:23　93:2,7\n24:7;33:20;71:22;　保持（1）　83:19,25;103:24;　列出（1）　Magnanini的（1）\n83:25　36:7　104:3,6;114:25;　12:12　93:4\n询问（1）　保持（1）　119:20　听（1）　邮件（1）\n85:5　36:15　62:20　99:6\n指示（2）　种类（1）　L　诉讼（12）　邮寄（8）\n91:6;93:19　54:9　117:14;118:10;　34:24;35:7,8,16,16;\n指示（2）　知道（4）　着陆（1）　119:21;120:11;121:7,　36:6,14;97:21\n91:14,16　60:9;66:18;109:4,9　103:4　18,19,25;122:2;123:8,　维持（1）\n互动（1）　知识（9）　最后（3）　24;124:6　39:16\n\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵）　案号 22-50073　文件 1604-23　提交日期 03/27/23　录入日期 03/27/23 14:12:10　第 135 页，共 140 页\n\n维持（14）\n\n84:17,18;94:12;　18,25;113:5,14,21;　22,24;18:7,13,21,25;　宣誓（2）\n39:25;40:7;56:15;　95:20,22　115:5,13,16,20;　19:6,9,13;24:11;26:6,　6:15;125:9\n57:13;64:3,16;69:21;　成员（1）　116:12,21;117:8;　9;43:7,19;44:6,11,13,　Object（107）\n98:14,19,25;105:3;　94:11　118:7,17;119:2,8;　16;46:2,4,6,6,13;47:4,　10:7;11:11;17:25;\n121:10;122:4,18　成员资格（1）　120:6;124:16　8,11,14,20,24;48:4,　18:9;19:14;21:15;\n维持（1）　95:11　Mitchell的（2）　20;49:6,9;50:2,6,25;　23:8;24:22;25:17,23;\n36:9　备忘录（3）　90:20;91:4　51:9,10;56:14;63:11;　26:11;27:9;30:9;31:3,\n维持（3）　58:3,8;122:9　星期一（1）　68:19;71:6;72:14;　13;34:3,18;39:4,10,\n\n16:20;35:22;66:13　提及（3）　16:3　73:15;74:4;76:10;　17;40:16;41:4,12,17,\n维护（9）　20:14;37:5;50:18　金钱（24）　77:13,23;78:14;　24;42:10;44:7;46:8,\n87:19;88:2;89:11;　提及（1）　27:7,15,19,21;28:4,　80:12,14;81:3,8,11,　15;47:5,17;48:5,11;\n90:9;91:25;100:15,　28:20　9;30:18;31:22;32:6,8,　11,19,19;82:8,9,16,　49:3,11,22;50:7,15,\n19,23;101:13　提到（1）　9;42:7;87:15,24;　24;83:8,11,14,18;　21;51:14,25;57:19;\n管理（1）　45:15　88:11,16;89:14,18;　84:10,19;85:3,7,11,　59:19;60:2,13,21;\n14:11　Michael（迈克尔）（2）　90:6,8;100:15,18;　11,17;86:9,16,23;　61:10;62:17;63:13;\nMarch（三月）（11）　81:23;82:2　101:4;109:4　87:4,10,14,24;88:4,　64:19;65:8;66:20;\n57:6,18,22;59:23;　中旬（1）　17,18;89:5,10,16,18,　67:6;68:9,15,21;\n61:18;62:13;63:8;　71:25　月份（1）　18,21;90:3,7,11,15,　69:17,23;70:15,24;\n112:15,19;114:16;　中间（1）　101:15　22;91:4,18,23;92:5;　71:8;72:17;73:22;\n115:3　29:11　每月（1）　93:4;94:6,7,10,13,14,　74:6,12;76:4,25;\n标记（11）　43:6;97:25　更多（5）　20;95:8,11,14,18;　77:15;78:2,20;79:2,\n9:17,20,25;20:8;　Miles（迈尔斯）（6）　19:3;20:5;26:16;　96:3,10,15,18,21,24;　22;81:13;82:12,20;\n\n55:4;56:20;58:5;　11:18;21:22;28:16,　42:3;101:12　97:7,14,18,22;98:5,9,　83:2,21;86:11,19;\n65:16;69:4;103:2;　22;77:19;78:19　Morristown（莫里斯敦）（1）　17,18;99:3,8,15,18,　89:2,24;90:24;93:10;\n112:15　百万（1）　3:6　25;100:7,8,14,20;　95:4;96:5;97:3,9;\n标记（2）　101:12　抵押贷款（1）　101:2,6,16,20;102:5,　98:11,21;99:10;\n20:9,11　分钟（2）　110:2　10,15;104:18;105:16;　100:2;101:7;102:7,\n标记（1）　74:21;85:22　MOSS（莫斯）（34）　106:4,8,15,17,23;　19;104:8;107:5;\n74:25　缺失（2）　8:7;12:4,6;13:5;　107:16;108:7,8,14;　108:23;111:12,18,25;\n数学（1）　116:25;117:4　20:11;43:9;56:12;　113:12,15,20;116:10;　113:5;115:5;116:12,\n30:11　误解（1）　62:8;65:23;73:7;　117:19,21;118:2,6;　21;117:8;118:7,17\n事项（1）　59:23　74:17;75:4;78:9;　120:13;121:7,11;　异议（12）\n7:6　MITCHELL（米切尔）（141）　79:23;81:16;91:8;　122:5,19;123:11,23;　62:2,24;63:4;67:18;\n可以（26）　3:3,7;10:7;11:11,　92:19;93:21;113:12,　124:8　78:8;113:10;115:13,\n6:13;37:10,13,24;　20;13:3;17:25;18:9;　18,23;115:23;116:6,　下一步（2）　16,20;119:22;120:18;\n38:5,15;53:7;55:12;　19:14;20:9;21:15;　17;118:22,24;119:6,　29:7;104:6　123:25\n57:6;59:5,14;60:12,　23:8;24:22;25:17,23;　22;120:5,8,18,21;　无人（1）　异议（1）\n23;61:5,15,22,25;　26:11;27:9;30:9;31:3,　123:25;124:17\n\n31:11　6:9\n62:11;63:3;75:7,8,9;　13;32:3;34:3,18;39:4,　最多（1）　Notary（公证人）（2）　取得（2）\n100:6;110:20;120:9;　10,17;40:10,16;41:4,　101:4　8:2;125:25　46:5;54:3\n121:24　12,17,24;42:10;43:3;　动议（2）　注释（2）　已取得（2）\n也许（2）　44:7;46:8,15;47:5,17;　58:4,9　113:10;119:13　111:17;118:14\n11:20;72:4　48:5,11;49:3,11,22;　很多（3）　已注明（1）　O'Connor（奥康纳）（3）\n意思（17）　50:7,15,21;51:14,25;　14:3,4;64:23　124:23　81:24;82:2,8\n8:19;9:7;18:4;19:2,　52:12;56:7;57:19;　通知（15）　关闭（21）\n7;34:20;42:3;49:13;　59:19;60:2,13,21,24;　9:16,19;10:3,4,10,　35:24;53:5,9,13,22;\n61:12,14;73:2;79:4,6;　11;12:13;50:4;56:18,　54:20;57:18;67:22;\n\n92:16;99:12;104:10;　61:10;62:2,17,24;　姓名（4）　23;57:5;65:11;69:2,9;　68:3,5,7,12;70:4,6,9;\n120:22　63:4,13;64:19;65:8,　7:14;13:4;92:13,21　113:8　71:16;74:22;115:24,\n含义（1）　21;66:20;67:6,18;　性质（1）　注意到（1）　25;119:3;124:20\n40:12　68:9,15,21;69:17,23;　63:18　13:18　办公室（10）\n意指（1）　70:15,24;71:8;72:17,　必要（2）　通知（2）　16:21;34:21,21;\n90:8　23;73:8,22;74:6,12;　46:4;80:23　11:15;63:16　35:2,3,5;36:4,7;40:2,8\n会议（5）　76:4,25;77:15;78:2,7,　需要（2）　编号（19）　高级职员（3）\n39:3,12;42:6;53:15;　11,20;79:2,22;81:13;　14:4;20:3　7:10;10:2;36:21,22;　6:14;37:16;38:20\n97:2　82:12,20;83:2,21;　所需（1）　43:2;58:19;75:2;　高级职员们（6）\n会谈（2）　86:11,19;89:2,24;　27:19　96:22;105:7,23;　37:3,11;38:2,9,10,\n15:8,10　90:24;91:6,10;92:11;　New（191）　106:14;107:20;　24\nMelissa（梅丽莎）（1）　93:10,19;94:2;95:4;　3:6;7:8,9;8:16,20;　119:10,15,15;121:20;　办事处（5）\n7:18　96:5;97:3,9;98:11,21;　9:17;10:4,10;11:8,17;　122:14;123:2,20　7:12;34:17,20;\n成员（13）　99:10;100:2;101:7;　13:19;14:8,10,12,14,　96:11,13\n31:24;44:10;80:11,\n13;81:3,7,10,18;　102:7,19;104:8;\n107:5;108:23;111:12,　16,20;15:8,16;16:21,\n21;17:2,8,14,16,18,　O　正式（4）\n17:21;18:20;19:5;\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵） 案号 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 136 页，共 140 页\n\nDANIEL PODHASKIE（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基） December 11, 2019\n\n52:17　19;78:6,13,16;　64:22;78:12;93:8;　7:5;8:8;9:1,15,19,　55:16;70:8;109:7\n\n一次（2）　101:18;112:9;114:19;　99:7　24,25;10:1,2;11:1,22;　准备（5）\n82:9,16　115:2　百分比（9）　12:1;13:1;14:1;15:1;　10:20;11:4;17:7,11;\n一（27）　拥有（2）　51:5,8;112:6,9;　16:1;17:1;18:1;19:1,　114:19\n8:12;11:14;14:6,6;　26:9;72:2　114:11,12,17;115:10,　20;20:1,6,10,13;21:1;　准备中（1）\n19:22,23;25:6,9;30:8;　拥有（13）　12　22:1,24;23:1;24:1;　12:9\n40:21;47:4,15;58:22;　26:6,6;31:11;40:6;　期间（2）　25:1;26:1;27:1;28:1;　出席（3）\n83:4;86:21;92:18;　52:25;54:10;74:3,4;　33:20;38:18　29:1,7;30:1;31:1;　3:12;16:8,11\n93:7;94:2;106:12;　77:11;87:6;88:18,21;　期间（1）　32:1;33:1;34:1;35:1;　总裁（16）\n107:2,3,10,13,16,18;　100:10　79:7　36:1;37:1;38:1;39:1;　15:11,12;34:15;\n119:10;120:9　允许（1）　40:1;41:1;42:1;43:1;　37:8,9,13,25;38:5,10,\n仅（5）　P　46:4　44:1,20;45:1;46:1;　12,16,18;39:23;43:23,\n33:17;34:12,14;　人（17）　47:1;48:1;49:1;50:1;　25;117:11\n56:10;73:2　Pacific（3）　13:2;27:8,11,13,16;　51:1;52:1;53:1;54:1;　先前（1）\noOo（1）　7:6;67:17;68:8　28:9;45:21;46:2;93:7,　55:1,3,6;56:1,18,23;　114:10\n6:19　页（21）　12,16,23;95:20,24;　57:1;58:1,2,7;59:1;　先前（1）\nOpportunity（1）　10:16,24;11:2;　100:7;117:21,24　60:1;61:1,8;62:1;　10:12\n7:7　20:20,20;22:25;29:7;　个人（1）　63:1;64:1;65:1,15,19;　主要（3）\nOpposition（2）　44:20;58:16,19;80:8;　46:23　66:1;67:1;68:1;69:1,　79:5,10,19\n58:3,9　84:23;103:17,25;　人员（2）　2,6;70:1;71:1;72:1;　打印件（1）\n命令（8）　104:5;109:16,21;　14:10;17:8　73:1;74:1;75:1,5;　85:3\n20:15;49:24;50:5;　110:17;114:7,8,10　人员们（1）　76:1;77:1;78:1;79:1;　先前（8）\n58:4,10;102:4,13,18　页数（1）　96:3　80:1,7;81:1;82:1;　61:6;89:22;92:23;\n普通（8）　120:23　电话（5）　83:1;84:1;85:1;86:1;　110:5,10;111:8;\n55:22;56:5,15;　已支付（6）　3:8;13:2;36:20,22;　87:1;88:1;89:1;90:1;　120:3;124:3\n57:13;64:4,17;66:13;　27:7,15,23;30:17;　96:21　91:1;92:1;93:1;94:1;　特权（3）\n69:21　92:9;93:7　Ping（平）（1）　95:1;96:1;97:1;98:1;　12:3;91:7,11\n组织（1）　同等（1）　75:6　99:1;100:1;101:1;　享有特权（1）\n14:11　29:24　原告（1）　102:1,25;103:1,4;　91:9\nOstrager（奥斯特拉格）（1）　段落（5）　7:5　104:1;105:1;106:1;　可能（1）\n49:25　22:10;58:17;75:20;　原告的（2）　107:1;108:1;109:1;　67:2\nOstrager's（奥斯特拉格的）（4）　80:10,23　58:4,9　110:1;111:1;112:1,　程序（2）\n50:5;102:4,13,18　释义（1）　14,17;113:1;114:1;　123:5,7\n出（2）　116:16　计划（5）　115:1;116:1,7;117:1;　程序（4）\n74:18;100:22　部分（1）　25:5,8,11;82:15;　118:1,25;119:1,4,9,　35:9,17;36:13;98:2\n外部（6）　97:15　请（12）　11,18,24;120:1;　已出示（4）\n12:2;63:14;65:10;　特定（2）　7:24;10:14,15,23;　121:1;122:1;123:1;　19:22;22:20;\n113:7;115:7;118:18　15:23;84:22　16:18;22:24;29:7,13;　124:1;125:7,17　117:14;119:20\n超过（1）　当事人（8）　45:2;52:14;57:3;69:7　要点（3）　承诺（1）\n86:23　6:5;90:12;104:23;　质押（32）　50:10;54:20;67:22　49:19\n自己的（8）　105:8;110:19,19,23,　26:20,23;51:17,19,　积极（1）　不动产（2）\n24:7;32:14,20;51:4,　25　23;52:9,17;53:4,9,12,　82:6　25:13;42:14\n8;73:25;84:15;95:10　当事方（1）　21;54:4,14,17,19,24;　占有（2）　财产（5）\n已拥有（7）　59:10　55:10;57:17;59:22;　98:9;99:4　75:23;76:9;106:18;\n32:10;52:21;59:10;　过去（2）　61:17;62:12;63:6;　可能（1）　财产（5）\n111:24;112:4;114:11,　16:3;102:17　64:25;66:3,9,19;　49:20　专有（3）\n17　Paul（保罗）（3）　67:10,16,22;70:4,9;　潜在地（1）　68:13,19;77:3\n所有人（27）　45:19;82:4,5　102:21　91:10　提供（1）\n29:23;30:25;44:5;　PAX（1）　已质押（21）　判决前（2）　50:4\n72:3,5;84:5,7,12,19,　50:4　48:10,15,16;49:14;　58:5,10　已提供（2）\n21;108:2,3,6,7,17,22;　支付（11）　50:12,19,23,25;51:4,　准备工作（30）　116:20;119:9\n109:10,18;110:5,11,　27:19;28:5;30:13;　13;53:22,25;57:23;　12:18,21;16:14;　规定（1）\n14,18,20;111:5,8;　89:10;90:8;93:13,16,　59:8,17;61:4,16,23,　21:11;23:17;26:3;　29:22\n112:6;115:10　23;100:15,19,23　25;62:11;63:3　27:3;28:3,11;29:20;　提供（2）\n所有人（1）　支付（4）　质押（7）　30:24;32:17,23;　117:18;118:5\n31:8　90:22;91:3,18;93:3　67:4;68:18;72:21;　38:14;39:14;45:4;　公众（3）\n所有权（34）　付款（2）　73:3,9,14;110:9　47:22;48:2,8;52:20;　8:3;85:4;125:25\n14:9;32:18;46:17,　88:12;100:22　质押（3）　53:19;57:10,25;　公开地（4）\n21;59:7;70:13,22;　支付（1）　51:7,8;111:9　95:13;97:6;109:13;　60:5,16;65:2,7\n71:6,11,13;72:13;　91:8　下午（7）　111:20;115:21;　购买（19）\n73:12,20;74:3,10;　待决（1）　9:23;74:23;75:3;　120:15;121:9　14:19;15:15;24:8;\n75:15,21,25;76:6,7,　67:17　116:2,5;124:21,23　准备（6）　25:3,4,7,9;31:23;32:6,\n11,13,16,20,23;77:5,　人员（4）　Podhaskie（波德哈斯基）（157）　11:7;13:25;16:6;　12;42:13,18,20;\n\nMin-U-Script® 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LLC（艾伦·格劳尔法庭记录公司有限责任公司）（7） 一次－购买\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵） 案号 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 137 页，共 140 页\n\n43:14;71:23;82:10,　68:2,6;114:21;　11:24;67:15;112:20　15:18　40:2;78:4,12\n\n17;84:2;96:9　116:24;117:3　登记（2）　决议（9）　Roscalitar（罗斯卡利塔尔）（30）\n已购买（1）　回忆（27）　39:21;99:6　20:22,25;21:9;　26:21;50:20,24;\n24:16　14:21;18:15;43:23,　已登记（15）　39:22;52:16;53:16;　51:5,13,24;52:18,21;\n购买（1）　25;67:3,9;71:16;　27:22;28:5;33:12;　80:19;81:22,23　53:2,5,12,21;55:11;\n42:15　75:14,18;85:19;　35:8,17;36:13,23;　决议（1）　57:17,23;59:9,18,22;\n目的（21）　117:22;118:13;121:6,　56:19,24;57:5;65:5;　96:8　61:5,16,25;62:11,13;\n14:7;25:15,16;　22;122:3,6,8,17;　69:3,9;97:25;98:5　兹决议（1）　63:3,6;64:25;73:10;\n41:10;82:23;86:22;　123:12,14,16,18;　登记（4）　80:19　102:22;110:10;\n\n100:14,17;105:19,23,　124:3,9,11,13,15　55:4,18;65:16,25　尊重（4）　111:10\n25;106:8,14,17,18,23,　收到（2）　相关（1）　20:17;77:21;78:18;　Russ（拉斯）（8）\n24;107:4,7,12,15　64:11,14　77:5　95:8　7:12;58:11;60:5,8,\n目的（14）　已收到（3）　涉及（3）　各自的（1）　17;90:16,23;92:15\n25:21;28:19;83:4,5,　28:8;64:2,8　12:17;21:4;76:23　6:5\n12;86:21,25;106:12;　收到（2）　关于（8）　分别（1）　S\n107:2,4,10,13,17,19　88:16;99:6　43:18;65:6;81:23;　114:13\n依据（2）　休庭（2）　82:18;91:25;103:7;　责任（1）　相同（18）\n56:20,25　74:24;116:3　115:18;118:15　19:12　6:6,16;16:22;55:25;\n放置（3）　记忆（3）　关系（1）　重组（1）　62:4;83:10;85:20;\n55:12;89:18;118:15　13:24;85:21;120:4　119:20　70:22　92:6,16,17;93:12,16,\n\n记录（23）　关系（1）　保留（2）　23;103:25;115:3,13,\nQ　7:22;9:23;11:21;　14:13　55:22;56:4　16,20\n18:11;28:20;43:17;　解除（7）　审阅（28）　Sanft（桑夫特）（3）\nQiang（强）（64）　56:8;72:24;73:4;　56:19,24;57:5;60:4,　10:9;20:24;22:12;　45:15;80:19;82:7\n11:18;12:23,25;　74:22;75:3;78:11;　16;69:3,9　44:25;53:10;55:9,19;　S-A-N-F-T（1）\n13:4,12,13,24;15:23;　80:15;92:12;113:11;　已解除（3）　56:17;60:15;63:11;　45:16\n16:2,9,12;23:25;　115:24;116:2,5;　61:17;62:13;63:7　65:24;66:10;85:2;　SARNOFF（萨诺夫）（2）\n28:22;32:11,11;　119:3,5;124:21;　记得（5）　86:5;103:9;109:7;　86:4;124:18\n34:14;36:11;37:5,13,　125:11,12　13:20;14:17,24;　116:9;117:2;118:5;　履行（10）\n25;38:4,10,12,17,24;　记录（17）　15:4;117:23　120:12;121:16;　56:19,24;57:5,9;\n39:23;40:20,23;41:8,　11:16;35:22,25;　移除（1）　122:13;123:3,11,15;　64:3,25;69:3,9,11,16\n22;42:5;43:21;52:4;　36:8,10,15;40:7;　59:22　124:6,8,12　已履行（1）\n\n54:3;70:7;71:12,20;　61:19;120:17;121:8,　替换（1）　已审阅（31）　67:23\n72:5;78:24;79:15,25;　10;122:4,18;123:12,　33:18　11:14,16;21:11;　见到（2）\n83:25;84:7,16,21;　16;124:9,13　记录员（2）　23:17;28:11;29:20;　121:5,6\n88:23;94:19,24;　提及（4）　7:17,24　30:15,23;31:17;　称述（2）\n95:25;96:4;99:17,24;　8:15;9:3;28:21;　陈述（1）　32:17,22;33:5;38:13;　107:11;116:8\n100:6;103:20;104:14;　61:6　61:3　39:6,14;44:17;45:3;　范围（5）\n112:4,8,12;114:12;　被提及（1）　代表（9）　47:21,25;48:7;52:19;　63:15;65:11;113:8;\n115:9;117:6,18,20,24　96:8　8:9;9:16;10:3;　53:18;57:10,24;　115:7;118:19\nQiang's（强的）（7）　提及（1）　12:10,19;14:2;46:24;　95:13;97:5;102:3;　密封（1）\n66:5;79:10,18;　107:8　77:24;78:15　116:18;121:2,9,25　6:5\n84:11;104:2,5,11　提及（1）　代表们（1）　审阅（3）　第二（1）\n117:5　42:17　42:14;43:20;120:15　114:7\nR　被提及（2）　被代理（5）　权利（39）　秘书性（2）\n105:16;120:14　90:16,19;92:6,22;　8:13;17:8,9;22:14;　27:23;28:6\n而非（1）　提及（16）　104:23　29:4;30:8;53:8;61:16;　秘书（1）\n\n119:11　8:20;15:19;18:21;　代理（3）　62:16;64:5;67:5,12;　33:11\n阅读（2）　27:12;28:16,21,22,23;　113:2;114:2,5　70:4;77:9,14;83:9;　章节（7）\n22:8;125:8　42:23;60:25;76:15;　请求（9）　85:8,15;86:10;90:17;　23:5;56:20,25;\n阅读（1）　85:7;103:7;105:12,　42:24;71:4,10,15,　97:2;104:3,15,19;　105:6;109:15,17;\n22:9　15;123:8　19,21;72:7,9;73:11　105:12,17,20;106:5,9,　110:18\n写明（1）　提及（3）　要求（1）　15,21,25;107:4,12,17,　担保（2）\n75:21　80:11,25;85:10　110:10　18,23;108:9;110:12　51:20;54:6\n真实（13）　反映（10）　保留（1）　右侧（1）　看到（12）\n24:9,13,16,18,20,　25:25;30:16;32:18,　6:10　103:21　43:23;72:5;117:23;\n25;42:19;75:23;76:9;　24;39:7,13;61:22;　居住（1）　角色（20）　120:4;121:22;122:3,\n83:6,12,15;84:15　95:12;97:4;102:2　79:6　16:25;17:4,14,16,　17;123:12,16;124:4,9,\n确实（3）　反映（3）　住所（12）　18,21,23;18:5,7,12,　13\n42:2;56:10;101:11　18:11;22:18;114:18　14:19;15:7,15;26:7;　20,25;19:2,5,8;37:7;　出售（1）\n理由（11）　刷新（1）　50:3;51:22;72:2;79:5,　38:21;95:7;113:25;　50:3\n85:21　10,19;102:12;106:25　118:5　意义（1）\n9:11;21:24;22:19;\n23:13;45:11;64:10;　关于（3）　住所（1）　房间（3）　101:10\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵） 案号 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交于 03/27/23 录入于 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 138 页，共 140 页\n\nDANIEL PODHASKIE（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基） December 11, 2019\n\n判决（4）\n22:11;58:25;75:21;　33:20\n显示（1）\n\n80:22　85:23\n依次（1）　出示（1）\n20:15　56:2\n送达（4）　显示（1）\n35:9,17;36:13;98:2　85:6\n服务（3）　一方（2）\n27:21,23;28:6　103:15,21\n设定（2）　签名（9）\n116:11;120:23　21:13,14,19,25;\n若干（5）　45:7;103:15,22;\n25:9,12;43:23;　104:2,6\n78:12;106:19　签名（1）\n应当（1）　104:11\n6:10　已签署（12）\n分享（4）　6:14,16;15:14;\n29:16;30:7;39:20;　42:15,21,24;43:24;\n78:13　104:14,17;117:25;\n股东（12）　118:9;125:20\n28:14;30:21;31:5,　签署（1）\n18;59:4;66:18;67:11;\n94:6;95:3;99:23;　41:20\n坐（1）\n112:22;113:4　44:2\n股东（3）　坐着（2）\n31:8;39:22;94:11　77:25;78:4\n股份（30）　位于（2）\n29:23,23;30:14,18;　106:19;107:8\n32:15,20;48:21,22,25;　六（2）\n50:24,25;51:3,4,5,8,　58:23;62:5\n13,17,19,24;53:22,25;　睡觉（1）\n54:5,14;76:13;77:12,　80:4\n20;78:17;100:10;　睡过（1）\n101:24;111:10　79:25\nSherry（谢莉）（7）　较慢（1）\n42:13;43:14;71:24;　64:23\n78:13;92:24;96:9;　SN74（1）\n101:14　114:8\nSherry-Netherland（谢里-荷兰酒店）（83）　出售（2）\n14:20;15:9,13;　48:3;101:20\n24:14;25:14;26:7;　唯一（31）\n31:23;32:7,13;42:18;　28:14;30:20,25;\n50:3;68:20;70:21;　31:5;32:25;44:5,10;\n71:5,7,11,14,23;　45:5;46:12;59:4;\n72:10,15;73:12,16,20;　66:17,18;67:11,12;\n74:2;76:2,8,12,14,17,　80:11,13,16;81:3,7,\n20;77:8,12,20;78:17,　10,18;84:17,18;94:5,\n25;79:9,18;80:2;　12;95:2,3,20,22;\n82:11,18,25;83:16,20;　99:22,23\n84:3,6,11,13,20;\n86:18;87:6,12,18,23,　某人（1）\n71:24\n25;88:12;89:11;90:9;　某处（2）\n91:24;93:14;97:13,　15:7;53:11\n20;98:7,15,25;100:11,　儿子（13）\n16,24;101:18,25;　12:24;13:7;15:21,\n102:12;106:20;107:9;　24;24:2;28:23;32:11;\n108:15,20;109:3,9;　70:23;71:7,12;73:13;\n111:23;112:20,22;　84:2;99:13\n113:4;114:3;118:12,　抱歉（10）\n16　13:5;26:19;57:6;\nSherry-Netherland 的（1）　62:6;65:21;72:23;\n68:13　74:17;103:16;109:17;\n\n24:2;28:23;32:11;　70:23;71:7,12;73:13;　74:17;103:16;109:17; 声音（1） 92:3 听起来（1） 53:10 说话（2） 12:25;13:7 特别（5） 105:19,24;106:18, 24;107:7 具体（3） 14:25;19:3;42:4 具体而言（3） 41:6;72:11;113:16 指明（1） 26:16 推测（3） 32:4;40:11;52:14 正在推测（4） 31:25;40:9;52:14; 79:13 推测（1） 108:24 花费（4） 27:21;42:7;87:14, 24 说过（7） 11:18,18,19;13:14; 15:10;16:5;70:8 Spring（斯普林）（9） 88:16,18,19,21,25; 89:15,17;90:8;100:14 SPV（特殊目的载体）（10） 105:17,19,25; 106:4,15;107:6,12,22; 110:3,4 ss（1） 125:4 印章（4） 75:8;121:14; 122:25;123:19 已盖章（4） 20:7,22;29:8;44:23 印章（4） 19:24;119:15,25; 122:11 代表（1） 105:19 开始（3） 10:15;12:7;119:2 开始（2） 58:17,25 State（州）（6） 7:8;46:6;85:3,4; 125:3,25 陈述（9） 59:24;60:9,11,18, 20,25;61:9,13;75:24 陈述（1） 118:11 States（各州）（2） 24:19;25:2 停留（1） 115:3\n\nStevenson（史蒂文森）（6） 112:15,18;113:2, 24,25;114:8 仍然（7） 34:10,11,12;38:12; 61:23;67:11;109:16 约定（3） 6:3,8,12 约定事项（1） 6:1 股票（1） 99:6 Stone（斯通）（3） 93:2,3,6 停止（1） 38:17 已停止（1） 34:7 删除（11） 35:14;37:22;38:7; 44:14;50:12;68:6; 78:23;79:16,24; 97:14;101:3 结构（2） 14:9,11 已提交（1） 75:7 已认购（1） 125:20 已减去（2） 25:22;87:2 被起诉（1） 91:23 暗示（1） 111:16 Support（支持）（2） 7:15,19 Supreme（最高）（1） 7:8 当然（14） 12:4;15:12;19:23; 40:2;43:17;58:20; 66:17;72:24;73:6; 82:5;92:15;98:16; 113:18;119:6 宣誓（1） 7:24 已宣誓（3） 6:14;8:2;75:8 系统（2） 85:5;123:6 T 谈话（1） 114:19 谈过（2） 72:21;73:10 正在谈论（6） 9:7;38:9;48:18,18; 69:12;120:7 磁带（2） 74:21;75:2 电话（1） 13:9\n\n条款（2） 29:3;63:15 露台（1） 92:2 Territory（领地）（1） 23:3 作证（11） 8:3;18:6;50:10; 53:20;64:2;66:4;67:3, 9,21;75:17;76:16 作证（6） 10:20;11:4,8;17:7, 11;67:25 证词（15） 9:12;12:9;14:2; 16:6;18:8,15;24:17; 57:17;65:4;66:16; 67:8;75:18;84:9; 125:8,11 第三（5） 59:9;81:22;110:19, 23,24 尽管（1） 95:2 认为（2） 24:18;42:15 三（5） 58:23;74:21;104:7, 10,11 次（1） 62:5 标题（2） 15:12;23:3 今天（47） 7:17,20;8:16;9:13; 10:21;11:5;12:9,19; 21:11;23:17;26:3; 27:3;28:3,12;29:20; 30:24;31:18;32:17, 23;33:5;38:14,16; 45:4;47:22;48:2,8; 52:20;53:19;56:2; 57:11,25;74:18; 75:13;77:25;78:15; 95:13;102:3;109:13; 111:21;114:20;116:8; 119:10;120:3,14; 121:9,23;124:3 今天的（6） 7:12;39:14;97:5; 115:21;121:3;124:20 一起（1） 20:11 告诉（5） 13:20,24;15:6;19:4; 85:22 拿了（2） 64:11,13 顶部（7） 29:8;35:24;59:13; 71:16;105:8;123:4,22\n\n简短（1）\n\n111:4\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）诉 KWOK HO WAN（郭文贵） 案号 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 139 页，共 140 页\n\n主题（1）\n17:9　24:15;25:13;31:22;\n32:5;51:21　W　Y　Zhang（张）（11）\n31:20;32:5,7,14,20;\n\n主题（10）　根据（4）　51:16,18;52:21,23;\n10:18,21,25;11:5,9,　22:4;29:9;110:11;　放弃（1）　Yan（严）（1）　95:7,10\n15;12:12,19;13:17;\n14:6　125:9\n在下方（1）　6:7　75:6　0\n总计（1）　21:18　Wan（万）（6）\n7:7;21:18,20;45:7;　年（3）\n64:11;65:5;89:7\n30:6　下列签署人（2）　112:21;114:12　年（1）　001（3）\n交易（1）　22:3,13　WANG（王）（8）　91:24　29:24;30:2,3\n49:21　明白（2）　3:13;11:19;13:11;　是或否（1）　07960（1）\n笔录（2）\n125:8,10　12:4;73:2\nUnited（联合）（2）　16:6;17:13;18:22;　93:21　3:6\n转让（5）　24:19;25:2　19:4;118:5　York（约克）（172）　1\n71:5,11,13;73:11;　单位（1）　Wang 的（5）\n16:25;17:4;18:12;　7:9,9;8:16,20;9:17;\n10:4,10;11:8,17;\n115:19　106:19　75:6,6　13:19;14:8,10,12,14,　1（9）\n已转让（1）　除非（1）　方式（6）　16,20;15:8,16;16:21,　9:15,25;10:2,9,15;\n112:8　110:4　29:2;50:6;63:25;　21;17:2,8,14,16,18,　17:9;56:3;109:16;\n正在转让（2）\n70:13;72:13　非正式的（3）\n17:23;18:4,20　101:3;102:6;112:11　22,24;18:8,13,21,25;　110:17\n1,000（1）\n转让（1）　无关的（1）　周（1）　19:6,10,13;24:11;　29:23\n73:14　59:9　90:17\nWei（魏）（11）　26:6,10;43:7,19;44:6,\n11,14,16;46:2,5,6,6,　10（2）\n审判（1）　向上（6）　31:20;32:5,7,14,20;　13;47:4,8,11,15,20,　112:14,18\n6:11　24:15;30:11;32:12;　51:16,18;52:21,23;　24;48:4,20;49:7,9;　100（2）\n真实（18）　84:12;90:16;123:4　95:7,10　50:2,6;51:2,9,10;　51:5;115:10\n21:7,12;29:18;　USA（美国）（1）　Weiss（魏斯）（3）　56:15;63:11;71:6;　11（1）\n55:17,25;57:7;59:24;\n60:12,20;61:14;66:8;　59:7\n美国境内的（2）　45:19;82:4,5　72:14;73:15;74:4;　7:13\n12（3）\n69:15;73:19;74:9;　24:8,10　欢迎（1）　76:10;77:13;80:12,　45:6;69:10;85:24\n75:24;112:5;125:10,　使用过（1）　20:5\n不是（1）　14;81:4,8,11;82:8,9,\n16,24;83:8,11,14,18;　12（1）\n信托（7）　使用（1）　什么是（2）　11,17;86:9,16,23;　21:2\n73:17;102:9,17;　29:3　83:24;101:4　87:4,10,14,24;88:4,　13（3）\n103:2,6,10;108:2\n受托人（10）　V　谁是（2）　17,18;89:5,10,16,18,　14（1）\n66:2\n107:21,25;109:15,　36:9;95:24　22;90:3,11,15,22;　145（1）\n17,22,24;110:19,22,　价值（2）　谁的（6）\n48:22;71:18;　91:23;92:5;93:4;94:6,\n10,13,21;95:8,11,14,　86:3\n22;111:7　29:24;30:6　100:14;103:15,19,22　18;96:3,10,15,18,21,　15（2）\n真实的（1）　各种（4）　Williams（威廉斯）（2）　24;97:7,22;98:5,9;　58:20;75:8\n9:12　20:2,16;42:15,21　45:19;82:4　99:3,9,15,18,25;　16（9）\n尝试（6）\n13:6;60:7,19;62:20;　车辆（5）　在……之内（6）　100:7,8,14,20;101:2,　59:14;60:12,23;\n73:7;79:23　105:20,25;106:18,\n24;107:7　6:13;20:2;83:9;　6,16,20;102:5,10;　61:15,25;62:11;63:3;\n75:7,9\n正在尝试（1）　对（1）　证人（6）　104:18;105:16;106:4,\n9,15,17,23;107:16;　165（2）\n62:22　7:7　7:25;8:2;32:3;　108:8,8,14;113:12,15,　56:20,25\n转向（2）　通过（1）　40:11;43:5;52:13　20;116:11;117:19,22;　17（10）\n74:3,4　51:17　Wong（黄）（5）　118:2,6;120:13;　57:6,18,22;59:23;\n两个（10）　副（1）　112:15,19;113:2,　121:7,11;122:5,19;　61:18;62:13;63:8;\n8:9;13:16;16:17;\n20:17;26:23;37:19;　15:11\n摄像师（8）　25;114:8　123:24;124:9　85:12;86:10;103:11\n176（1）\n58:22;75:2;93:8;　3:14;7:3;9:22;　Wong 的（1）　York 的（18）　20:20\n107:23　74:20,25;115:25;　113:25\n词语（1）　68:19;77:24;78:15;\n81:11,19,19;89:19;　178（1）\n类型（1）　116:4;124:19　19:7　90:7;91:4,18;94:7,14;　84:23\n42:7　已录像（1）　词语（2）　97:14,18;98:17,18;　18th（11）\n打字的（1）　7:4　21:19;93:12　102:16;123:11　76:24;77:4,21;\n21:20\n通常（1）　违反（1）\n68:18　工作（1）　年轻（2）　78:18,25;82:18;\n97:15,19;106:20,25;\n35:2　Virgin（维尔京）（4）　55:15　84:8,21　107:8\n22:5;23:4;34:25;　写（1）\n114:8　YVETTE（伊薇特）（7）\n3:13;11:19;13:11;　194（2）\nU　98:19　书面（10）　16:6;18:22;75:6;　20:8;44:23\n凭借（2）　7:21;44:22;45:5,22;　118:5\nUBS（瑞银）（2）　51:7;59:6　46:11;50:4;110:5,10;　2\n40:8,12　访问过（1）　111:8,16　Z\n最终（5）　79:21　2（37）\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. 诉 KWOK HO WAN 案号 22-50073 文书 1604-23 提交日期 03/27/23 登记日期 03/27/23 14:12:10 第 140 页，共 140 页\n\n9:19;10:2,4,11,24;　120:6,19,20,23,24,25\n\n26:21;50:20,24;51:5,　4:25（1）\n13,24;52:18,21;53:2,　74:23\n5,12;55:11;56:3;　4:38（1）\n57:17,23;59:9,18,22;　75:3\n61:5,16,25;62:11,13;\n63:3,6;73:10;75:20;　5\n102:22;105:7,23;\n110:10;111:11　5（3）\n\n2:59（1）　56:18,22;121:14\n9:23　5:27（1）\n2004（2）　116:2\n23:5;29:10　5:36（1）\n2015（32）　116:5\n21:3;23:21;37:10,　5:46（2）\n\n12,14,24,25;38:5,15;　124:21,23\n45:6;53:8;55:12;59:5;　50（6）\n61:5;79:14,15,17,21;　112:6,9;114:11,12,\n80:2;85:12;86:7,9,10;　17;115:12\n87:5;100:6;103:11;　543（2）\n111:22;112:3,15,19;　103:17;110:18\n114:17;115:4　544（1）\n\n2017（9）　103:25\n57:6,18,22;59:23;　545（1）\n61:18;62:14;63:8;　104:5\n64:18;65:2　55（1）\n2018（17）　3:5\n59:14;60:12,23;\n61:15,22,25;62:11;　6\n63:3;66:2;69:10;75:7;\n\n88:10;89:5,8,12,23;　6（5）\n90:4　58:2,8;110:18;\n2019（1）　122:9,20\n7:13　60,000（1）\n20-year-old（1）　101:14\n71:25　652077/2017（1）\n\n21（1）　7:10\n55:12\n24（2）　7\n74:15;75:12\n7（5）\n3　23:5;65:15,18,22;\n\n122:25\n3（17）　781（1）\n17:9;20:6,10,12,13;　97:11\n44:20;56:3,11,13;\n80:6;84:24;86:4;　8\n106:14;109:15,17;\n119:11,11　8（4）\n\n3.4（1）　69:2,5;123:19,22\n109:24\n30（1）　9\n58:20\n30b6（4）　9（6）\n11:24;65:11;113:8;　16:4;58:16,19,20;\n118:19\n102:25;103:5\n914-760-8963（1）\n4　3:8\n\n4（17）\n55:3,7,20;56:3,9;\n107:20;112:15,19;\n114:16;115:3;119:24;","key_entities":["Kwok","Je","Guo"],"ecf_references":[],"word_count":38233,"status":"published","published_at":"2023-03-27 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