{"id":"court_ctb_1805_48","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":1805,"sub_number":48,"doc_type":"EXHIBIT","filed_date":"2023-05-18","title":"Exhibit V | ·1 | | Page 1 |","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"## **Exhibit V**\n\n| ·1 | | Page 1 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|--------|\n| | ·2· · · · · · ·UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT | |\n| | ·3· · · · · · · · DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT | |\n| | ·4· · · · · · · · · BRIDGEPORT DIVISION | |\n| | ·5· · · · · ·Chapter 11 Case No. 22-50073 (JAM) | |\n| | ·6· ·----------------------------------------x | |\n| | ·7· ·In Re: | |\n| | ·8· · · · · ·HO WAN KWOK | |\n| | ·9· · · · · · · · · · · · ·Debtor. | |\n| | 10· ·----------------------------------------x | |\n| 11 | | |\n| | 12· ·REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MARGARET E. CONBOY | |\n| | 13· · · · · · · ·Tuesday, February 21, 2023 | |\n| 14 | | |\n| 15 | | |\n| 16 | | |\n| 17 | | |\n| 18 | | |\n| 19 | | |\n| 20 | | |\n| 21 | | |\n| | 22· ·Reported by: | |\n| | 23· ·Amy A. Rivera, CSR, RPR, CLR | |\n| 24 | | |\n| | 25· ·JOB NO. 222606 | |\n| | | |\n\n| ·1 | | Page 2 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------|--------|\n| | ·2· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · February 21, 2023 | |\n| | ·3· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10:13 a.m. | |\n| ·4 | | |\n| | ·5· · · · · · · · · REMOTE videotaped deposition of | |\n| | ·6· ·MARGARET E. CONBOY held pursuant to Notice, before | |\n| | ·7· ·Amy A. Rivera, Certified Shorthand Reporter, | |\n| | ·8· ·Registered Professional Reporter, Certified LiveNote | |\n| | ·9· ·Reporter, and a Notary Public of the State of New | |\n| | 10· ·Jersey. | |\n| 11 | | |\n| 12 | | |\n| 13 | | |\n| 14 | | |\n| 15 | | |\n| 16 | | |\n| 17 | | |\n| 18 | | |\n| 19 | | |\n| 20 | | |\n| 21 | | |\n| 22 | | |\n| 23 | | |\n| 24 | | |\n| 25 | | |\n\n| ·1 | | Page 3 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------|--------|\n| | ·2· ·R E M O T E· ·A P P E A R A N C E S: | |\n| | ·3· ·Paul Hastings | |\n| | | |\n| | ·4· ·Attorneys for TRUSTEE | |\n| | ·5· · · · 200 Park Avenue | |\n| | ·6· · · · New York, NY 10166 | |\n| | ·7· ·BY:· Avram Luft, Esq. | |\n| | ·8· · · · Douglass Barron, Esq. | |\n| ·9 | | |\n| | 10· ·Whitman Breed Abbott & Morgan | |\n| | 11· ·Attorneys for the Witness | |\n| | 12· · · · 500 West Putnam Avenue | |\n| | 13· · · · Greenwich, CT 06830 | |\n| | 14· ·BY:· Michael Thomason, Esq. | |\n| 15 | | |\n| 16 | | |\n| | 17· ·ALSO PRESENT: | |\n| | 18· · · · Jonathan Popham, Videographer | |\n| 19 | | |\n| 20 | | |\n| 21 | | |\n| 22 | | |\n| 23 | | |\n| 24 | | |\n| 25 | | |\n| | | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 4 |\n|---------------------------------------------------|--------|\n| ·2· · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Good morning, | |\n| ·3· ·Counselors. | |\n| ·4· · · · ·My name is Jonathan Popham.· I'm a | |\n| ·5· ·legal videographer in association with TSG | |\n| ·6· ·Reporting, Incorporated. | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Because this is a remote deposition, I | |\n| ·8· ·will not be in the same room with the | |\n| ·9· ·witness.· Instead, I will record this video | |\n| 10· ·deposition remotely. | |\n| 11· · · · ·The court reporter, Amy Rivera, also | |\n| 12· ·will not be in the same room and will swear | |\n| 13· ·the witness remotely. | |\n| 14· · · · ·Do all parties stipulate to the | |\n| 15· ·validity of this video recording and remote | |\n| 16· ·swearing and that it will be admissible in | |\n| 17· ·the courtroom as if it had been taken | |\n| 18· ·following Rule 30 of the Federal Rules of | |\n| 19· ·Civil Procedure and the state's rules where | |\n| 20· ·this case is pending? | |\n| 21· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· This is Avi Luft on behalf | |\n| 22· ·of the Chapter 11 Trustee. | |\n| 23· · · · ·And we do. | |\n| 24· · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Michael Thomason on | |\n| 25· ·behalf of the witness. | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 5 |\n|---------------------------------------------------|--------|\n| ·2· · · · ·Sure. | |\n| ·3· · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Okay.· This is the | |\n| ·4· ·start of Media No. 1 in the video deposition | |\n| ·5· ·of Margaret E. Conboy, in the matter of In | |\n| ·6· ·re:· Ho Wan Kwok, in the United States | |\n| ·7· ·Bankruptcy Court for the District of | |\n| ·8· ·Connecticut, Chapter 11 Case No. 22-50073 | |\n| ·9· ·(JAM.) | |\n| 10· · · · ·This deposition is taking place at | |\n| 11· ·multiple locations via video conference on | |\n| 12· ·February 21, 2023 at approximately | |\n| 13· ·10:13 a.m. Eastern Time. | |\n| 14· · · · ·Will counsel please introduce | |\n| 15· ·themselves for the record. | |\n| 16· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Sure.· My name is Avi Luft | |\n| 17· ·of the law firm of Paul Hasting. I | |\n| 18· ·represent the Chapter 11 Trustee in the In | |\n| 19· ·re:· Ho Wan Kwok Chapter 11 bankruptcy | |\n| 20· ·pending before the Bankruptcy Court for the | |\n| 21· ·District Court of Connecticut. | |\n| 22· · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· My name is Michael | |\n| 23· ·Thomason, sitting to the left of the | |\n| 24· ·witness, from Whitman Breed Abbott & Morgan. | |\n| 25· ·Both of us are from Whitman Breed Abbott & | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 6 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|--------|\n| ·2· · · · ·Morgan, and I'm here for Ms. Conboy. | |\n| ·3· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Okay.· Will the court | |\n| ·4· · · · ·reporter please swear in the witness. | |\n| ·5· ·M A R G A R E T· · E.· · C O N B O Y, having been | |\n| ·6· ·duly sworn by the Notary Public, testified as | |\n| ·7· ·follows: | |\n| ·8· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Thank you. | |\n| ·9· ·EXAMINATION | |\n| 10· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n| 11· · · · ·Q.· · Good morning, Ms. Conboy.· How where | |\n| 12· ·you? | |\n| 13· · · · ·A.· · Good.· How are you? | |\n| 14· · · · ·Q.· · I'm good.· Thank you for taking time | |\n| 15· ·this morning.· I appreciate it. | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Thank you. | |\n| 17· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, as I said just a minute | |\n| 18· ·ago, my name is Avi Luft.· I'm an attorney at Paul | |\n| 19· ·Hastings, and I represent the Chapter 11 Trustee, | |\n| 20· ·Luc Despins, in the In re:· Ho Wan Kwok | |\n| 21· ·bankruptcy. | |\n| 22· · · · · · · ·Let me -- I just want to go over a few | |\n| 23· ·preliminaries, and I used the name \"Ho Wan Kwok.\" | |\n| 24· ·He is an individual also known as \"Miles Kwok\" and | |\n| 25· ·\"Miles Guo.\" | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 8 of\n\n| Page 7 |\n|--------|\n| |\n\nYVer1f\n\n| | | ·2· · · · · · · ·Is he a person you're familiar with? | |\n|--|--|-------------------------------------------------------|--|\n|--|--|-------------------------------------------------------|--|\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY\n\n- ·3· · · · ·A.· · I'm familiar with him.\n- ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And what name do you know him by?\n- ·5· · · · ·A.· · Miles Kwok.\n- ·6· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· If I refer to him as \"Miles\n- ·7· ·Kwok\" or \"Mr. Kwok\" or the \"debtor\" throughout the\n- ·8· ·deposition, can we have an understanding that we\n- ·9· ·are referring to the same person?\n- 10· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes.\n- 11· · · · ·Q.· · Terrific.· Okay.\n- 12· · · · · · · ·And, Ms. Conboy, my understanding is\n- 13· ·you're appearing as the person most knowledgeable\n- 14· ·on behalf of your law firm, Whitman Breed, today?\n- 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes.· I was the closing attorney,\n- 16· ·so...\n- 17· · · · ·Q.· · Terrific.\n- 18· · · · · · · ·Have you ever been deposed before,\n- 19· ·Ms. Conboy?\n- 20· · · · ·A.· · No.\n- 21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· So despite you being a lawyer\n- 22· ·and probably being more familiar with this than\n- 23· ·most, let me just run through some preliminaries\n- 24· ·just so we're all on the same page.\n- 25· · · · · · · ·So basics are:· I'm going to ask you a\n\n| 99 | | | | |\n|----|--|--|--|--|\n| | | | | |\n\n| Page 8 |\n|--------|\n| |\n| |\n\nYVer1f\n\n·2· ·question and then you'll answer it.· Is that okay?\n\n·3· · · · ·A.· · Yep.\n\n·4· · · · ·Q.· · I will try to make my question as\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY\n\n·5· ·clear as possible, but if for any reason my\n\n·6· ·question is not clear to you, will you tell me?\n\n·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes.\n\n·8· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And if you don't clarify that\n\n·9· ·the question is unclear, can we have an\n\n10· ·understanding that you do understand my question?\n\n11· · · · ·A.· · Yes.\n\n- 12· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And you understand you're\n- 13· ·testifying under oath today?\n\n14· · · · ·A.· · Yes, I do.\n\n- 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Is there any reason why you\n- 16· ·can't provide truthful testimony today?\n\n17· · · · ·A.· · No.\n\n18· · · · ·Q.· · Great.\n\n19· · · · · · · ·From time to time, your counsel may\n\n- 20· ·object to a question I ask on the ground of the\n- 21· ·form of it, and that is his right and that is\n\n22· ·fine.\n\n23· · · · · · · ·Once he has made his objection, you\n\n24· ·should go ahead and answer my question, if you\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n25· ·can.· Okay?\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 10 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 9 |\n|------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|--------|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · Okay. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · If there is an issue of privilege or | |\n| | ·4· ·you are concerned about it, you should let me know | |\n| | ·5· ·and you can confer with your counsel. | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · Okay. | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · If you need a break during the | |\n| | ·8· ·deposition -- I will take them periodically | |\n| | ·9· ·because this can take a while, but if for some | |\n| | 10· ·reason you feel like you need a break, will you | |\n| 11· ·let me know? | | |\n| 12· · · · ·A.· · Sure. | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · I will then attempt to get a break as | |\n| | 14· ·soon as reasonably practicable given the | |\n| | 15· ·questions.· Okay? | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Okay. | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · The one thing I ask is that if a | |\n| | 18· ·question is pending, that we make sure we get an | |\n| | 19· ·answer to the question before we take a break.· Is | |\n| 20· ·that okay? | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·A.· · Yep, that's fine. | |\n| | 22· · · · ·Q.· · One other sort of housekeeping, even | |\n| | 23· ·though we are on Zoom and I can see you and the | |\n| | 24· ·court reporter can see you, the court reporter can | |\n| | 25· ·only take down audible answers. | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 11 of 99\n\n| | Page 10 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | |\n| ·2· · · · · · · ·So shakes of the head or nods, despite | |\n| ·3· ·the fact that she can see it, she can't write down | |\n| ·4· ·yes or no based on a shake.· So I just ask that | |\n| ·5· ·all your answers be audible.· Okay? | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes. | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Are there any questions you | |\n| ·8· ·have before we get started with the questioning? | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · I don't think so, no. | |\n| 10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Terrific. | |\n| 11· · · · · · · ·Throughout the deposition, I am -- I | |\n| 12· ·am going to show you some documents.· I've spoken | |\n| 13· ·with your counsel about this a little.· We have | |\n| 14· ·tried our best based on the production to | |\n| 15· ·understand where a document starts and a document | |\n| 16· ·ends. | |\n| 17· · · · · · · ·If for some reason given your | |\n| 18· ·familiarity with the documents you look at | |\n| 19· ·something and you say, Hey, this isn't exactly | |\n| 20· ·right or there's an extra page on here or | |\n| 21· ·something, will you let me know? | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · Yes, yes. | |\n| 23· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Terrific. | |\n| 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Avi, can we just | |\n| 25· · · · ·clarify something?· With respect to | |\n| | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 11 |\n|---------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·privilege, it's our understanding that the | |\n| ·3· ·Trustee is the holder of the privilege here | |\n| ·4· ·and has waived that privilege.· Is that | |\n| ·5· ·correct? | |\n| ·6· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· The Trustee has not waived | |\n| ·7· ·it.· But the Trustee holds Mr. Kwok's | |\n| ·8· ·privilege. | |\n| ·9· · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay. | |\n| 10· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· So just for clarity, any | |\n| 11· ·privilege that was just ever held by the | |\n| 12· ·debtor, unless there was some issue about | |\n| 13· ·his personal safety, which I can't imagine | |\n| 14· ·coming up in a real estate transaction, that | |\n| 15· ·privilege is now controlled by the debtor. | |\n| 16· · · · ·And the reason I draw that distinction | |\n| 17· ·as opposed to waived, live by the Trustee. | |\n| 18· ·Thank you. | |\n| 19· · · · ·My colleague Doug Barron is here. | |\n| 20· · · · ·The reason I make that distinction, | |\n| 21· ·meaning other people cannot invade that | |\n| 22· ·privilege, just as they could not before, | |\n| 23· ·but between Ms. Conboy and the Trustee at | |\n| 24· ·this point, that is the same privileged | |\n| 25· ·relationship where they could share | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 13 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 12 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· · · · ·information as existed previously between | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Ms. Conboy or your firm and Mr. Kwok, their | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·client. | | |\n| ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· All right.· Thank you. | | |\n| ·6· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay. | | |\n| ·7· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Ms. Conboy, prior to this | | |\n| ·9· ·deposition, I sent your counsel a list of topics | | |\n| 10· ·which we hope to cover today. | | |\n| 11· · · · ·A.· · Okay. | | |\n| 12· · · · ·Q.· · Did you prepare for this deposition to | | |\n| 13· ·prepare for those -- to speak to those topics? | | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Did you generally prepare to | | |\n| 16· ·familiarize yourself with regard to the work you | | |\n| 17· ·did to represent Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| 19· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· What did you do to prepare for | | |\n| 20· ·this deposition? | | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · I just met with Mr. Thomason, and he | | |\n| 22· ·told me how the depositions are done and just | | |\n| 23· ·explained the process, and we met for maybe an | | |\n| 24· ·hour just to -- going through the process. | | |\n| 25· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right.· Well, why don't we | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 14 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 13 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·get started with the questioning and see what you | |\n| ·3· ·recall, and we can go back if there's some topic | |\n| ·4· ·for which you weren't able to review. | |\n| ·5· · · · · · · ·When -- when did you first hear of | |\n| ·6· ·Mr. Kwok? | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · When -- I don't remember what year it | |\n| ·8· ·was, but I received a call from a firm in New | |\n| ·9· ·York, Hodgson Russ, and they asked me to be | |\n| 10· ·Connecticut counsel for this family, you know, the | |\n| 11· ·Golden Spring, Greenwich land, and to be -- to be | |\n| 12· ·the Connecticut counsel for their real estate | |\n| 13· ·purchases. | |\n| 14· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall who reached out to | |\n| 15· ·you from Hodgson Russ? | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · I think it was Bill, Elissa Brinn and | |\n| 17· ·Valerie -- I don't remember Valerie's last name | |\n| 18· ·now.· Valerie was a partner there, and I believe | |\n| 19· ·it was both of them. | |\n| 20· · · · ·Q.· · And what did they tell you about | |\n| 21· ·Mr. Kwok? | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · They just said that they represented | |\n| 23· ·this -- this family and they were very interested | |\n| 24· ·in buying property in Greenwich and a house in | |\n| 25· ·Greenwich and, you know, that was -- it was -- you | |\n| | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 14 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·know, it was confidential.· They didn't want their | | |\n| ·3· ·names out, which is not unusual.· I run into that | | |\n| ·4· ·all the time with clients where they don't want | | |\n| ·5· ·their names, and so they take property in their | | |\n| ·6· ·LLCs. | | |\n| | ·7· · · · · · · ·And that was pretty much it. | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · And did -- were you told anything else | |\n| | ·9· ·about Mr. Kwok? | |\n| | 10· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember, no. | |\n| 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| | 12· · · · · · · ·When you were told about the family, | |\n| | 13· ·were you given any more details about who was in | |\n| 14· ·the family? | | |\n| 15· · · · ·A.· · No, no. | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · And was there a specific house that | |\n| | 17· ·they were already hoping to purchase or was this a | |\n| 18· ·general retainer to work on real estate matters on | | |\n| 19· ·behalf of Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·A.· · They were already looking and I | |\n| 21· ·believe making an offer -- maybe they had -- I | | |\n| 22· ·can't remember -- they may have had a contract out | | |\n| 23· ·for a property, I forget which property, Clapboard | | |\n| 24· ·Ridge, one of them, and Elissa had been working on | | |\n| 25· ·it and then they thought it was best to get | | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 15 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· ·Connecticut counsel, and so I came in on that. | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Q.· · And can you tell me a little bit about | | |\n| ·4· ·the scope of the engagement? | | |\n| ·5· · · · · · · ·Because my understanding is it wasn't | | |\n| ·6· ·just one property that you ended up working on but | | |\n| ·7· ·over time, there were multiple representations of | | |\n| ·8· ·Mr. Kwok. | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · Well, of the LLCs, I never spoke with | | |\n| 10· ·Mr. Kwok.· It was always his lawyer -- the family | | |\n| 11· ·lawyer who I spoke with. | | |\n| 12· · · · · · · ·And so he -- he did place offers on a | | |\n| 13· ·few properties and then they fell through for one | | |\n| 14· ·reason or another.· He didn't go through with them | | |\n| 15· ·or the family didn't go through with them. | | |\n| 16· · · · · · · ·The property that I eventually closed | | |\n| 17· ·on with him was on Ferncliff.· The others that I | | |\n| 18· ·represented him on never closed, and there were | | |\n| 19· ·maybe three or four of those. | | |\n| 20· · · · ·Q.· · You said you only spoke with the | | |\n| 21· ·family lawyer. | | |\n| 22· · · · · · · ·Do you recall the family lawyer's | | |\n| 23· ·name? | | |\n| 24· · · · ·A.· · Max Krasner. | | |\n| 25· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner represent to you that | | |\n| | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 17 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 16 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·he was an attorney? | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever speak to a woman named | |\n| ·5· ·Yvette Wang? | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I don't remember | |\n| ·7· ·that name. | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Did you understand that Mr. Krasner | |\n| ·9· ·was working on behalf of Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·A.· · Yes, and the family. | |\n| | 11· · · · ·Q.· · And when you say the \"family,\" did you | |\n| 12· ·ever speak to anyone else in the family other | | |\n| 13· ·than -- at all? | | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · No, no. | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you he was | |\n| 16· ·taking directions from anyone other than Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · No, he never told me who he was taking | |\n| 18· ·directions from. | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · I've seen in the documents, your | |\n| 20· ·e-mails, multiple references to the \"Chinese | | |\n| 21· ·billionaire.\" | | |\n| | 22· · · · · · · ·Is Mr. Kwok the Chinese billionaire? | |\n| | 23· · · · ·A.· · I just got that from when I did a | |\n| | 24· ·Google search.· So I don't really know, that just | |\n| | 25· ·if you Google his name, that's what comes up.· So | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | | Page 17 |\n|------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | |\n| ·2· ·I -- | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · My question was -- sorry. | |\n| | ·4· · · · · · · ·My question is not whether Mr. Kwok is | |\n| ·5· ·it a Chinese billionaire, but when you wrote -- | | |\n| ·6· ·referenced the \"Chinese billionaire,\" were you | | |\n| | ·7· ·referring to Mr. Kwok? | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yes, only because of the Google | |\n| ·9· ·searches. | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Right.· Okay. | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·Did any of your colleagues work with | |\n| | 12· ·you on this matter? | |\n| | 13· · · · ·A.· · I don't -- maybe an associate helped, | |\n| | 14· ·but that's all I remember as being -- and my | |\n| 15· ·paralegal, obviously. | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · When you spoke to Mr. Krasner on | |\n| | 17· ·behalf of Mr. Kwok, did you do so via e-mail? | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. | |\n| | 19· · · · · · · ·You can answer. | |\n| | 20· · · · ·A.· · Both e-mail and phone call. | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· How many times would you say | |\n| 22· ·you spoke with Mr. Krasner? | | |\n| | 23· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· On e-mail or phone? | |\n| 24· · · · ·Q.· · Either. | | |\n| | 25· · · · ·A.· · You know, when we were working on a | |\n| | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 19 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 18 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· ·transaction, maybe a couple of times a day. | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever go visit any of the | |\n| | ·4· ·properties that Mr. Kwok was considering | |\n| ·5· ·purchasing? | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know which brokers Mr. Kwok was | |\n| ·8· ·working with for the properties he was looking at? | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · I can't remember.· I remember the last | |\n| | 10· ·one, but I don't remember all the -- the other | |\n| 11· ·brokers that he was working with. | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·Q.· · Who was the last one? | |\n| | 13· · · · ·A.· · Martha Jeffreys. | |\n| | 14· · · · ·Q.· · Would it have been the brokers who | |\n| | 15· ·took Mr. Kwok around to see the properties? | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Have you ever spoken with | |\n| 18· ·Mr. Kwok's son? | | |\n| 19· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever -- how about his wife? | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·Q.· · Or his daughter? | |\n| 23· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Did you ever speak with anyone | |\n| | 25· ·representing the family who told you that the | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 20 of 99\n\n| | Page 19 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | |\n| ·2· ·instructions were coming from either the son, the | | |\n| ·3· ·wife, or the daughter? | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Q.· · When you were -- | | |\n| ·6· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I want to mark as Whitman | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Breed Deposition Exhibit 1, the document at | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Tab 1 in your binder.· It bears the Bates | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·stamp WBAM_001464 through 65. | | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 1, letter dated | | |\n| 11· · · · ·October 1, 2018, Bates stamped WBAM_001464 | | |\n| 12· · · · ·through 465, was marked for identification | | |\n| 13· · · · ·at this time.) | | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · Yep. | | |\n| 15· · · · ·Q.· · When you have a second, just take a | | |\n| 16· ·look and tell me when you're ready. | | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · Okay. | | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · What is this document? | | |\n| 19· · · · ·A.· · That's our engagement letter.· That | | |\n| 20· ·was the first engagement letter.· And we had taken | | |\n| 21· ·it out through Hodgson Russ. | | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · So in this letter, the client is | | |\n| 23· ·Hodgson Russ on behalf of -- let me just make it | | |\n| 24· ·simple:· Is Hodgson Russ the technical client | | |\n| 25· ·here? | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 20 |\n|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And the purchase is to be made | |\n| | ·4· ·by an entity called \"Hudson Diamond\"? | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·A.· · I believe so -- oh, yes, it says -- | |\n| | ·6· ·yep, it says:· \"Hudson Diamond.\" | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · But this -- and this is the same | |\n| | ·8· ·engagement where you were being told you were | |\n| ·9· ·representing the interest of Mr. Kwok and his | | |\n| 10· ·family, correct? | | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·This is the 110 Clapboard Road -- | |\n| 12· ·Clapboard Ridge? | | |\n| 13· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You could just put | |\n| 15· · · · ·that aside. | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · Let me ask you a few other people. | |\n| | 17· ·Did you ever speak to a man named Daniel | |\n| 18· ·Podhaskie? | | |\n| 19· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · How about a woman named Melissa | |\n| 21· ·Francis? | | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·Q.· · Aaron Mitchell? | |\n| 24· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 25· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Terrific. | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 22 of 99\n\n| | Page 21 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | |\n| ·2· · · · · · · ·All right.· Could we turn to -- I ask | | |\n| ·3· ·you to turn to Tab 3, which is an e-mail from | | |\n| ·4· ·October 3, 2019 from yourself to Kevin Walsh, | | |\n| ·5· ·Bates stamped WBAM_10076. | | |\n| ·6· · · · · · · ·Let me know when you have it. | | |\n| ·7· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Are you marking this as | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Exhibit 2? | | |\n| ·9· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yes, please, Whitman Breed | | |\n| 10· · · · ·Exhibit 2. | | |\n| 11· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 2, e-mail dated | | |\n| 12· · · · ·October 3, 2019, Bates stamped WBAM_10076, | | |\n| 13· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.) | | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · Okay. | | |\n| 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· It starts off -- this is an | | |\n| 16· ·e-mail from you to Kevin Walsh, correct? | | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · You start off:· \"Kevin, my client, the | | |\n| 19· ·Chinese billionaire.\" | | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·Is that a reference to your client | | |\n| 21· ·being Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · Yeah.· I mean, I should have -- it -- | | |\n| 23· ·yes.· I should have -- | | |\n| 24· · · · ·Q.· · And then you go on.· You say (as | | |\n| 25· ·read):· The seller accepted his offer of | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 22 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· ·\\$35 million.· And then, furthermore, he is meeting | |\n| ·3· ·with architects.· He has an idea of what is | | |\n| ·4· ·involved in building on the parcel. | | |\n| | ·5· · · · · · · ·The \"he\" and the \"his\" there are | |\n| ·6· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Kwok ever tell you what the | |\n| | ·9· ·source of the \\$35 million he was using to offer | |\n| | 10· ·for 602 Indian Field was? | |\n| | 11· · · · ·A.· · No.· This was all through Max. I | |\n| | 12· ·never spoke with Mr. Kwok.· It was all through | |\n| 13· ·Max. | | |\n| | 14· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner -- and I assume when | |\n| | 15· ·you say \"Max,\" you're referring to Max Krasner? | |\n| | 16· · · · ·A.· · Right, Mr. Krasner. | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · That's fine. | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you what the | |\n| 19· ·source of the \\$35 million was for this offer? | | |\n| 20· · · · ·A.· · No, no. | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · Did he ever -- was he ever required to | |\n| 22· ·provide any, for lack of a better term, | | |\n| 23· ·substantiation or basis to the seller to show that | | |\n| 24· ·he had the wherewithal to make a \\$35 million | | |\n| 25· ·offer? | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 24 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 23 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Is that something that would be | | |\n| ·4· ·more for the broker than -- | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·Q.· · -- your part of the process? | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes. | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· But this never went to | | |\n| ·9· ·contract, correct? | | |\n| 10· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Okay.· Terrific. | | |\n| 12· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I want to ask you to look | | |\n| 13· · · · ·at Tab 2.· I'm going to mark as Whitman | | |\n| 14· · · · ·Breed Exhibit 3, it is a document Bates | | |\n| 15· · · · ·stamped WBAM_000035 through 36, and it | | |\n| 16· · · · ·appears to me to be an August 16, 2019 | | |\n| 17· · · · ·retention letter between Whitman Breed | | |\n| 18· · · · ·signed by yourself and then by Max Krasner | | |\n| 19· · · · ·on behalf of Golden Spring. | | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 3, letter dated | | |\n| 21· · · · ·August 16, 2019, Bates stamped WBAM_000035 | | |\n| 22· · · · ·through 36, was marked for identification at | | |\n| 23· · · · ·this time.) | | |\n| 24· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| 25· · · · ·Q.· · Does that appear right to you? | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 25 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 24 | | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|--|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · That's right. | | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And this is in connection with | | | |\n| ·4· ·the purchase of a property at 33 Ferncliff Road? | | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · That's right. | | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And here, you understood Mr. Krasner | | | |\n| ·7· ·to again be making this engagement on behalf of | | | |\n| ·8· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? | | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · Well, the family. | | | |\n| 10· · · · ·Q.· · When you say the \"family,\" just so I | | | |\n| 11· ·understand, what is the distinction you're drawing | | | |\n| 12· ·given that -- well, let me strike that. | | | |\n| 13· · · · · · · ·My understanding is that you | | | |\n| 14· ·understood instructions to be coming from | | | |\n| 15· ·Mr. Kwok, that he's giving directions. | | | |\n| 16· · · · · · · ·There's no one else in the family you | | | |\n| 17· ·ever spoke with or received directions on behalf | | | |\n| 18· ·of, correct? | | | |\n| 19· · · · ·A.· · I never spoke with Mr. Kwok.· I never | | | |\n| 20· ·spoke with anyone else.· No, I only spoke with Max | | | |\n| 21· ·Krasner, and he would say that -- his words were | | | |\n| 22· ·the family. | | | |\n| 23· · · · ·Q.· · But when you wrote about, when we | | | |\n| 24· ·looked at Exhibit 2, the Chinese billionaire and | | | |\n| 25· ·his offer and he is meeting with architects, the | | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 26 of 99\n\n| | | Page 25 | |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | | |\n| ·2· ·\"he\" there is Mr. Kwok, you understood, correct? | | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·A.· · Right, that's what I understood. | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And you have no knowledge of anyone | | |\n| | ·5· ·else in the family ever meeting with architects or | | |\n| ·6· ·engineers on behalf of these houses, correct? | | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't know.· I don't know. I | | |\n| ·8· ·have no idea. | | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · And no one else from the family ever | | |\n| 10· ·submitting an offer for the house other than | | | |\n| | 11· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. | | |\n| 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | | |\n| | 14· · · · · · · ·Who paid -- in connection with the | | |\n| 15· ·work you did for 110 Clap Ridge Road, who paid | | | |\n| 16· ·Whitman Breed's legal bills? | | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. | | |\n| | 18· · · · ·Q.· · How about with regard to 33 Ferncliff? | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. | | |\n| | 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that to | | |\n| 21· · · · ·the side for now. | | | |\n| | 22· · · · · · · ·I'm going to ask you to look at Tab 9. | | |\n| 23· · · · ·I'm going to mark as Exhibit 4, a document | | | |\n| 24· · · · ·Bates stamped WBAM_002235 through 37. | | | |\n| | 25· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 4, e-mail | | |\n| | | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 26 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002235 through | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·237, was marked for identification at this | |\n| ·4· · · · ·time.) | | |\n| ·5· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have that in front of you? | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · I do. | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · So this is an e-mail chain between | |\n| | ·9· ·yourself, Valerie Stevens, Yvette Wang, and Elissa | |\n| 10· ·Brinn. | | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·Who is Valerie Stevens? | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · She was a partner at Hodgson Russ. | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · And Ms. Brinn? | |\n| | 14· · · · ·A.· · And Ms. Brinn was also an attorney at | |\n| 15· ·Hodgson Russ. | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · And then Yvette Wang? | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember her.· I really don't | |\n| 18· ·remember her. | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see in the middle of page | |\n| 20· ·ending 236, October 11, 2018, 12:35, she writes an | | |\n| 21· ·e-mail to yourself and Elissa saying (as read): | | |\n| 22· ·Please still keep doing nothing as I advised | | |\n| | 23· ·before.· I already had advised Kathy to withdraw | |\n| | 24· ·the offer on Monday.· The buyer didn't give any | |\n| | 25· ·instructions to reopen yet.· Thank you, Yvette. | |\n| | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 28 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 27 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | |\n| ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yep. | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · The buyer -- the buyer there is | |\n| ·5· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·A.· · I don't know -- I mean, I don't know. | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Who did you understand that -- | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·A.· · Like I said, it was the company that | |\n| ·9· ·was either Golden Spring or Greenwich Land, and | | |\n| 10· ·that's who was buying it.· I'm not sure -- I'm not | | |\n| 11· ·sure of that, who Yvette Wang -- I just don't | | |\n| 12· ·remember. | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · You don't remember what her role was? | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·Q.· · You understood Mr. Kwok to be a client | |\n| 16· ·of the firm though, correct? | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · No.· I understood the companies to be | |\n| 18· ·a client of the firm. | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · You had a conversation with | |\n| 20· ·Mr. Despins at one point with regard to issues | | |\n| 21· ·regarding conflicts of interest? | | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·Q.· · And in that, you told him that one of | |\n| 24· ·the issues was that Mr. Kwok was a client of the | | |\n| 25· ·firm? | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 29 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 28 |\n|-------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·A.· · Well, I must have misspoke, and I | |\n| | | |\n| | ·3· ·don't remember, but I just don't really remember | |\n| ·4· ·that. | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Who did you understand to | |\n| | ·6· ·control Golden Spring? | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·A.· · Like I said, I spoke with Max Krasner. | |\n| | ·8· ·That was my contact.· I don't know.· I don't know | |\n| | ·9· ·who controlled Golden Spring. | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you he has | |\n| 11· ·no legal license? | | |\n| 12· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| | 14· · · · · · · ·When Ms. Wang referred to the \"buyer,\" | |\n| | 15· ·you did not understand her to be referring to | |\n| | 16· ·herself, correct? | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I really don't know. I | |\n| 18· ·didn't know -- I don't remember her. | | |\n| 19· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| | 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Let's take a look at -- | |\n| | 21· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Is it possible to turn | |\n| | 22· · · · ·the camera a little bit more towards the | |\n| | 23· · · · ·witness again, please, Counsel? | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · ·Thank you. | |\n| | 25· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· Let's take a look at | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 30 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY
·2· · · · ·Tab 13.· We're going to mark as Whitman | Page 29 | |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Breed Exhibit 5, I believe, a document Bates | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·stamped WBAM_001048 through 54.· This is an | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·e-mail chain at the top starting with an | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·e-mail from Ms. Yvette Wang to Elissa Brinn, | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Ms. Conboy, and Valerie Stevens regarding | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·110 Clipboard agreement with Brown Harris | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·Stevens. | | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 5, e-mail | | |\n| 11· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_001048 through 54, | | |\n| 12· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.) | | |\n| 13· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| 14· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that top e-mail? | | |\n| 15· · · · ·A.· · Yep. | | |\n| 16· · · · ·Q.· · Did you see Ms. Wang again writes (as | | |\n| 17· ·read):· The inventory content list of this | | |\n| 18· ·property should be exactly the same as original, | | |\n| 19· ·the first time Kathy showed this house to the | | |\n| 20· ·buyer. | | |\n| 21· · · · · · · ·Did you understand Kathy showed the | | |\n| 22· ·house to an actual person, being the buyer? | | |\n| 23· · · · ·A.· · Yes, showed the house to the buyer. | | |\n| 24· · · · ·Q.· · Right.· And since Ms. Wang is | | |\n| 25· ·referring to it, that she's not referring to | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 31 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 30 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | |\n| ·2· ·herself, she's referring to the buyer as another | |\n| ·3· ·person? | |\n| ·4· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Does this help refresh your | |\n| ·6· ·recollection as to -- with regard to Ms. Wang? | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · No. | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Q.· · All right.· Okay.· Let's look at | |\n| ·9· ·another -- what I believe is another property. | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·Do you recall doing work with regard | |\n| 11· ·to 140 Wallacks Drive in January 2019? | |\n| 12· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | |\n| 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to show you a | |\n| 14· · · · ·document Bates stamped -- I'd like to mark | |\n| 15· · · · ·as Exhibit 6, a document Bates stamped | |\n| 16· · · · ·WBAM_002663 through 72. | |\n| 17· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Tab number? | |\n| 18· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· What's that? | |\n| 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Which tab number? | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· It's Tab 14. | |\n| 21· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 6, e-mail | |\n| 22· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002663 through | |\n| 23· · · · ·672, was marked for identification at this | |\n| 24· · · · ·time.) | |\n| 25· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 31 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Am I correct that this is an e-mail | |\n| | ·3· ·chain between yourself and Robert Mowbray from | |\n| ·4· ·January 22, 2019? | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And the property he references is | |\n| ·7· ·140 Wallacks Drive, Caritas Island, Stamford? | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see your e-mail, you write: | |\n| | 10· ·\"Hi, Bob.· I would like you to do the searches | |\n| 11· ·because this is a high-end property on the water - | | |\n| 12· ·the Chinese billionaire has an accepted offer! | | |\n| 13· ·Thanks.\" | | |\n| | 14· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | |\n| 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · The Chinese billionaire being | |\n| 17· ·referenced is Mr. Kwok, correct? | | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · And that's who you were saying had an | |\n| 20· ·accepted offer on the property? | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·A.· · But actually, the offer was in the | |\n| | 22· ·name of Golden or either Golden Spring or | |\n| | 23· ·Greenwich Land.· I don't remember which one they | |\n| | 24· ·put -- the offer was put in. | |\n| | 25· · · · ·Q.· · Whichever entity legally they put the | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 33 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 32 |\n|--------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· ·name in, what you understood was that Mr. Kwok had | |\n| ·3· ·an accepted offer, correct? | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·A.· · From the e-mail, that's what I -- yep, | |\n| ·5· ·correct. | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And you were being -- okay.· So at the | |\n| | ·7· ·time, that's what you were telling Mr. Mowbray, | |\n| ·8· ·was that Mr. Kwok has an accepted offer? | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Prior to working with Mr. Kwok, did | |\n| 11· ·you have to sign any type of NDA agreement? | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I may have. I | |\n| 13· ·don't remember. | | |\n| | 14· · · · ·Q.· · At any point does Mr. Kwok or one of | |\n| 15· ·his associate entities had you sign an NDA | | |\n| 16· ·agreement? | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | 18· · · · ·Q.· · Is the reason you refer to Mr. Kwok as | |\n| | 19· ·the \"Chinese billionaire\" because you were trying | |\n| 20· ·to avoid using his name in communications? | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·A.· · Right, correct. | |\n| | 22· · · · ·Q.· · When you wrote the \"Chinese | |\n| | 23· ·billionaire\" here, Mr. Kwok was the person you | |\n| 24· ·were referring to? | | |\n| 25· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 33 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · · · · ·Let me see.· Do you know a man named | |\n| ·4· ·Emile deNeree? | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · From Caldwell Banker maybe? | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | ·8· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask to mark as | |\n| ·9· · · · ·Exhibit -- what are we up to, 7? -- a | | |\n| 10· · · · ·document behind Tab 18, Bates stamped | | |\n| 11· · · · ·WBAM_002803 through 08. | | |\n| | 12· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 7, e-mail | |\n| 13· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002803 through | | |\n| 14· · · · ·808, was marked for identification at this | | |\n| 15· · · · ·time.) | | |\n| 16· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this | |\n| 18· ·document? | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't remember it. | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · Can you review it and see if it | |\n| 21· ·refreshes your recollection that this was an | | |\n| 22· ·e-mail also about 140 Walkins Drive? | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember the e-mail.· I mean, | |\n| 24· ·I just don't remember -- I get thousands of | | |\n| 25· ·e-mails, though. | | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 34 |\n|------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Understood. | |\n| | ·3· · · · · · · ·Do you see at the top, Ms. Brinn | |\n| | ·4· ·writes to you, Mr. deNeree and yourself, and she | |\n| ·5· ·makes a reference as:· \"Margaret - looks like a | | |\n| ·6· ·septic update is needed as well\"? | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yep. | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Are you the \"Margaret\" there? | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · Yep, yes. | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · And so this chain would have been sent | |\n| 11· ·to you, correct? | | |\n| 12· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And in this chain, you see that | |\n| 14· ·they're talking about various inspections and | | |\n| 15· ·diligence that needs to be done? | | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · If I ask you to turn to page 2806, do | |\n| | 18· ·you see that there's a January 25th e-mail from | |\n| | 19· ·Mr. deNeree or a Barbara Vogt at Sothebys Homes, | |\n| | 20· ·so this is between the two brokers, included in | |\n| 21· ·the diligence sent to you. | | |\n| | 22· · · · · · · ·It says that my client is prepared to | |\n| | 23· ·close by February 8.· We have requested a one-week | |\n| | 24· ·grace period in case they cannot complete due | |\n| | 25· ·diligence in times.· It goes on and then says: | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 35 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· ·\"Could you please ask your clients to agree to | |\n| | ·3· ·these terms because Miles is ready to sign the | |\n| ·4· ·contract this afternoon as long as his attorney | | |\n| ·5· ·receives the acceptable terms for due diligence.\" | | |\n| | ·6· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yep, yes, I do. | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall if you ever received | |\n| | ·9· ·those due diligence terms? | |\n| | 10· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | 11· · · · ·Q.· · And the \"Miles\" here is a reference to | |\n| | 12· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? | |\n| | 13· · · · ·A.· · I didn't write the e-mail, so somebody | |\n| 14· ·else wrote it. | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·Q.· · I understand, someone else wrote it, | |\n| 16· ·but you read it. | | |\n| | 17· · · · · · · ·Did you understand the \"Miles\" | |\n| | 18· ·involved in this transaction to be Mr. Kwok? | |\n| | 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. | |\n| | 20· · · · · · · ·You can answer. | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| | 23· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· You can put that aside. | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Kwok ever become interested in | |\n| 25· ·potentially purchasing a property at 32 Chateau | | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 36 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·Ridge? | |\n| ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | |\n| ·4· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about that property | |\n| ·5· ·and that attempted purchase? | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · I recall that he put in an offer.· The | |\n| ·7· ·offer was accepted.· We did our normal due | |\n| ·8· ·diligence, and he -- he never signed a contract. | |\n| ·9· ·We were working on a contract and he never signed | |\n| 10· ·the contract -- well, not he but the LLC never | |\n| 11· ·signed the contract and so nothing came -- it was | |\n| 12· ·never purchased. | |\n| 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask you -- I'm | |\n| 14· · · · ·going to mark as -- to be asked as Whitman | |\n| 15· · · · ·Breed Exhibit 8, a document behind Tab 6, | |\n| 16· · · · ·WBAM_002172 through 2173, which appears to | |\n| 17· · · · ·be an October 1, 2018 e-mail chain between | |\n| 18· · · · ·Muffin Dowdle, Elissa Brinn, yourself, and | |\n| 19· · · · ·Kathy Sloane. | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 8, e-mail | |\n| 21· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002172 through | |\n| 22· · · · ·173, was marked for identification at this | |\n| 23· · · · ·time.) | |\n| 24· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n| 25· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? | |\n| | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 37 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · Yep. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see you are on all these | |\n| ·4· ·e-mails? | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And this is in connection -- sorry. | |\n| | ·7· · · · · · · ·This was in connection with | |\n| | ·8· ·110 Clapboard Ridge? | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · That's what it says on the top. | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Yeah.· Let me see. | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·But then if we go to the middle | |\n| | 12· ·e-mail, Ms. Sloane says (as read):· With regard to | |\n| 13· ·Chataeu Ridge, the contract is being sent out this | | |\n| 14· ·morning at the original offering prices.· The | | |\n| | 15· ·furniture is being removed from the house today. | |\n| | 16· ·The house will be staged.· I suggest that Miles | |\n| | 17· ·see the house again after the staging is complete. | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | |\n| | 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection. | |\n| | 20· · · · ·A.· · Yes, I see that. | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· So while there's a reference to | |\n| | 22· ·Clapboard Ridge, what is -- there is also -- these | |\n| | 23· ·e-mails are also discussing the Chateau Ridge | |\n| | 24· ·property, correct? | |\n| | 25· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 39 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 38 |\n|-----------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·Q.· · And those are two distinct properties? | |\n| ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall Ms. Sloane being a | |\n| | ·5· ·broker at Brown Harris Stevens? | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And she is writing to you and | |\n| | ·8· ·Ms. Dowdle and Ms. Brinn suggesting that Miles see | |\n| | ·9· ·the house again after the staging is complete, | |\n| 10· ·correct? | | |\n| | 11· · · · ·A.· · That's what she writes in the e-mail. | |\n| | 12· · · · ·Q.· · And the \"Miles\" being referred to | |\n| | 13· ·there is Mr. Kwok, correct? | |\n| | 14· · · · ·A.· · I think -- I mean, I didn't write the | |\n| | 15· ·e-mail, again, but that's who I think it would be. | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · Are you aware of any other Miles who | |\n| | 17· ·was involved in connection with the Chateau Ridge | |\n| 18· ·property? | | |\n| 19· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · So it's fair to say when you read | |\n| | 21· ·that, you understood \"Miles\" to be Mr. Kwok, | |\n| 22· ·correct? | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · You have to answer audibly. | |\n| | 25· · · · · · · ·And she writes (as read):· Let Miles | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 39 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·see the house again after the staging is complete. | |\n| ·3· · · · · · · ·Did that suggest to you that Mr. Kwok | |\n| ·4· ·had already seen the house once before this? | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I wasn't -- I'm not | |\n| ·6· ·involved in that part of the transaction.· I have | |\n| ·7· ·no idea. | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Q.· · But when you read the e-mail that you | |\n| ·9· ·were copied on that said, \"I suggest that Miles | |\n| 10· ·see the house again after the staging is | |\n| 11· ·complete,\" that would -- did that suggest to you | |\n| 12· ·that Mr. Kwok had already seen the house once | |\n| 13· ·before? | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I wasn't involved in | |\n| 15· ·that.· I don't go around with them to the brokers | |\n| 16· ·to see the house.· I don't know when he saw, if he | |\n| 17· ·saw, I don't know. | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · I'm just asking what you understood | |\n| 19· ·when you read that e-mail. | |\n| 20· · · · ·A.· · I mean, from her e-mail, it sounds | |\n| 21· ·like he must have, but I have no idea. | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | |\n| 23· · · · · · · ·Ms. Conboy, you understood that all | |\n| 24· ·the documents Bates stamped with the \"WBAM\" stamp | |\n| 25· ·come from the files of Whitman Breed, correct? | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 41 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 40 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · I think so, yes.· Yes. | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Q.· · And those are files that you keep -- | |\n| ·4· ·the firm keeps in the ordinary course of its | |\n| ·5· ·business? | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And they're created as part of the | |\n| ·8· ·ordinary business it conducts as a law firm, | |\n| ·9· ·correct? | |\n| 10· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n| 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall a woman named | |\n| 12· ·Louise Camuto was the owner of the Chateau Ridge | |\n| 13· ·property? | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · I don't know if she was the actual | |\n| 15· ·owner. | |\n| 16· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· What did you understand | |\n| 17· ·Ms. Camuto's position to be? | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember how the title was | |\n| 19· ·held, but I don't think she owned it personally. | |\n| 20· ·I don't remember exactly how title was held, but I | |\n| 21· ·don't think she owned it personally. | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall that she was | |\n| 23· ·negotiating the sale of the property with Mr. Kwok | |\n| 24· ·and his representatives? | |\n| 25· · · · ·A.· · I don't know if she was.· The only | |\n| | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 42 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 41 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·person who I negotiated with was the other | |\n| ·3· ·attorney.· I don't know who anyone else negotiated | |\n| ·4· ·with. | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know who Karin Maistrello is? | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · No. | |\n| ·7· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· What document are we up to | |\n| ·8· · · · ·now?· It was seven -- | |\n| ·9· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· You're at 9. | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Nine? | |\n| 11· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· You're about to name 9. | |\n| 12· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Terrific.· Let's mark as | |\n| 13· · · · ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 9, document behind | |\n| 14· · · · ·Tab 20, an e-mail chain with the Bates stamp | |\n| 15· · · · ·WBAM_003873 through 76.· Appears to be a | |\n| 16· · · · ·chain encompassing e-mails involving | |\n| 17· · · · ·Mr. Krasner, Ms. Camuto, Ms. Wang, | |\n| 18· · · · ·Ms. Maistrello, and Ms. Dowdle. | |\n| 19· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 9, e-mail | |\n| 20· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_003873 through | |\n| 21· · · · ·876, was marked for identification at this | |\n| 22· · · · ·time.) | |\n| 23· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n| 24· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you see that this | |\n| 25· ·document bears a Bates stamp of \"WBAM\"? | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 42 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Does that indicate to you that this | |\n| | ·4· ·document comes from the files of Whitman Breed? | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·A.· · I -- it must.· I guess it does. I | |\n| | ·6· ·don't remember seeing this document.· I'm not on | |\n| | ·7· ·the -- I'm not on the e-mail chain at the top. I | |\n| ·8· ·mean, I'm not on the e-mail. | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Do clients when they negotiate through | |\n| | 10· ·e-mails sometimes provide those e-mails to counsel | |\n| 11· ·for purposes of their work they're doing for them? | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · I don't understand what your question | |\n| 13· ·is. | | |\n| | 14· · · · ·Q.· · My question is:· When clients have | |\n| | 15· ·communications with prospective buyers or brokers, | |\n| | 16· ·do they sometimes provide you with those | |\n| | 17· ·communications to evidence the negotiations they | |\n| 18· ·conducted so that you can do your work on behalf | | |\n| 19· ·of them? | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·A.· · Sometimes, yes, sometimes. | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · Can you turn to the page ending 3875. | |\n| | 22· · · · · · · ·Do you see there's an e-mail from | |\n| | 23· ·Ms. Camuto to Mary Muffin Dowdle? | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · ·Do you know Ms. Dowdle? | |\n| | 25· · · · ·A.· · No.· She's a broker, but I don't know | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 43 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·her.· She was a broker. | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Did you understand her to be the | |\n| ·4· ·broker working with Mr. Kwok? | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · In the beginning, yes.· In the | |\n| ·6· ·beginning of when the transaction first started. | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see Ms. Camuto, while sending | |\n| ·8· ·her e-mail to Ms. Dowdle, addresses it actually to | |\n| ·9· ·Mr. Kwok, \"Dear Miles.\" | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·She writes:· \"Thank you for getting | |\n| 11· ·back to me.· I look forward to concluding and | |\n| 12· ·having you move into this amazing place which we | |\n| 13· ·love so much and you seem to love it as much as we | |\n| 14· ·do.\" | |\n| 15· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | |\n| 17· · · · ·Q.· · And then they proceed -- Ms. Camuto | |\n| 18· ·proceeds to write a message to Mr. Kwok regarding | |\n| 19· ·certain furnishings he had asked to be kept, | |\n| 20· ·correct? | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall if this -- these | |\n| 23· ·communications were transmitted to you so that you | |\n| 24· ·would know which pieces of furniture to include in | |\n| 25· ·the contractual agreements and which ones to leave | |\n| | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 44 |\n|-------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·out? | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Let's look up a little bit.· Do you | |\n| | ·5· ·see in response on page 3874, Ms. Wang writes back | |\n| | ·6· ·to Mr. Camuto saying:· \"Thank you for getting back | |\n| | ·7· ·to Miles.· Kindly forgive him as he does better | |\n| | ·8· ·with oral English than written.\" | |\n| | ·9· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | |\n| | 10· · · · ·A.· · Yes, yes. | |\n| | 11· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see she mentions that Miles | |\n| | 12· ·said he exactly shares the same love as you to | |\n| | 13· ·this fabulous home and that he hopes to come back | |\n| | 14· ·in the future to share the beautiful stories about | |\n| | 15· ·this place with him. | |\n| | 16· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes. | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · And that he -- it then goes on: | |\n| | 18· ·\"Miles said he appreciates you agree to leave the | |\n| | 19· ·urns.· He does love them very much.\"· And then | |\n| | 20· ·says -- reflects what Mr. Kwok wishes to do with | |\n| | 21· ·regard to the blue chairs, correct? | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·Q.· · And then it concludes:· \"On behalf of | |\n| | 24· ·Miles, thank you again for having this beautiful | |\n| | 25· ·home to him.· All the best.\" | |\n\n| | | Page 45 |\n|----------------------------------------------------|--|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| ·6· ·lawyer would codify in an agreement, correct? | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| ·9· ·speaking on behalf of Mr. Kwok, correct? | | |\n| | | |\n| 11· ·e-mail that I didn't write. | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 19· ·specifically referenced, correct? | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 22· ·decisions with regard to the urns? | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY
·2· · · · ·A.· · Right.
·3· · · · ·Q.· · And this information about how to
·4· ·handle the urns for Mr. Kwok and how to handle the
·5· ·chairs, that's all information which you as the
·7· · · · ·A.· · Correct.
·8· · · · ·Q.· · And it's clear that Ms. Wang is
10· · · · ·A.· · Again, you're asking me about an
12· · · · · · · ·They say, the family office, you know,
13· ·I wasn't -- I don't get -- the only way I would
14· ·get involved is to write the contract with the
15· ·terms about the urn and whatever personal
16· ·property.
17· · · · ·Q.· · But it's very clear here, right, this
18· ·is about Miles?· Miles is the person being
20· · · · ·A.· · Miles was being referenced, yes.
21· · · · ·Q.· · And Miles is the one who is making the
23· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I have no idea.
24· · · · ·Q.· · (As read):· Miles says he appreciates
25· ·you agree to leave urns.· He does love them very |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 47 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 46 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·much.· In the same spirit of cooperation, he would | |\n| ·3· ·like you to keep the set of four blue chairs. | |\n| ·4· · · · · · · ·You agree with me that it is Mr. Kwok | |\n| ·5· ·who is the one who is making the instructions with | |\n| ·6· ·regard to which property to be included in the | |\n| ·7· ·contract, correct? | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · That's what the e-mail states, yes. | |\n| ·9· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that to | |\n| 10· · · · ·the side. | |\n| 11· · · · · · · ·Mark as Exhibit -- Whitman Breed | |\n| 12· · · · ·Exhibit 10, a document behind Tab 22, Bates | |\n| 13· · · · ·stamped WBAM_003873 through 76, which is, | |\n| 14· · · · ·again, another e-mail chain between | |\n| 15· · · · ·Mr. Camuto, Ms. Wang, Mr. Krasner and | |\n| 16· · · · ·Ms. Maistrello. | |\n| 17· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 10, e-mail | |\n| 18· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_003873 through | |\n| 19· · · · ·876, was marked for identification at this | |\n| 20· · · · ·time.) | |\n| 21· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · And do you see, again, this is a | |\n| 23· ·document with the Bates stamp \"WBAM\"? | |\n| 24· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | |\n| 25· · · · ·Q.· · And that suggests to you that this is | |\n| | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | Page 47 |\n|-----------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| ·3· ·correct?
15· ·room. | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY
·2· ·a document coming from Whitman Breed's files,
·4· · · · ·A.· · Yes.
·5· · · · ·Q.· · So this is a document that would have
·6· ·been provided to your law firm in connection with
·7· ·your representation of -- with regard to this
·8· ·property, correct?
·9· · · · ·A.· · Yes.
10· · · · ·Q.· · And do you see, again, Ms. Camuto
11· ·writes to Ms. Wang, multiple places, specifically
12· ·says -- references Mr. Kwok:· \"I am so glad Miles
13· ·will enjoy the fabulous urns that are, as you
14· ·know, quite rare and valuable.· They make the
16· · · · · · · ·\"Thank him for the chairs, and I will
17· ·leave Miles the cabinet on the third floor.\"· It
18· ·goes on:· \"Thank you - and Miles, and please keep
19· ·the communication flowing.· I would be happy to
20· ·come visit him one day when he is all settled in.\"
21· · · · · · · ·It is clear Ms. Wang -- Ms. Camuto is
22· ·referring to Mr. Kwok as being the person who was
23· ·acquiring the home, correct?
24· · · · ·A.· · That's what her e-mail states, yep.
25· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 49 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 48 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· You can put that aside. | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if -- having any | |\n| ·4· ·communications with regard to the Chateau Ridge | |\n| ·5· ·property related to anyone else in Mr. Kwok's | |\n| ·6· ·family having any negotiations or role in | |\n| ·7· ·connection with its purchase? | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I think the only -- | |\n| ·9· ·again, the only person who I dealt with was Max | |\n| 10· ·Krasner. | |\n| 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | |\n| 12· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· We have been going about an | |\n| 13· · · · ·hour.· Do you want to take a quick break? | |\n| 14· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Yes, please. | |\n| 15· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Sure. | |\n| 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Terrific.· How long do you | |\n| 17· · · · ·want? | |\n| 18· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Ten minutes? | |\n| 19· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· That's great. | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· As my floor, but if you | |\n| 21· · · · ·want longer that's fine. | |\n| 22· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Ten is fine with me. | |\n| 23· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay. | |\n| 24· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the | |\n| 25· · · · ·record at 11:10 a.m.· This marks the end of | |\n| | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 49 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·Media 1. | | |\n| ·3· · · · · · · ·(Recess.) | | |\n| | ·4· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We are back on the | |\n| ·5· · · · ·record at 11:30 a.m.· This marks the | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·beginning of Media 2. | | |\n| ·7· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Hi, Ms. Conboy.· How are you? | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · Good.· How are you? | |\n| 10· · · · ·Q.· · Good. | | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·I want to turn to another property. | |\n| 12· ·Do you recall that Mr. Kwok was also interested in | | |\n| 13· ·purchasing a property at 66 Sherwood in July or | | |\n| 14· ·August of 2019? | | |\n| 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about that | |\n| 17· ·potential purchase? | | |\n| | 18· · · · ·A.· · I don't think it went very far. I | |\n| | 19· ·don't even think we got contracts. | |\n| | 20· · · · · · · ·So that's all I remember.· I don't | |\n| 21· ·think it went far at all. | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall when Mr. Kwok decided | |\n| 23· ·not to purchase the property? | | |\n| | 24· · · · ·A.· · I recall Max letting me know that they | |\n| 25· ·weren't going to purchase it, but that was it. | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 51 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 50 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And it never reached the | |\n| ·3· ·contract stage, right? | |\n| ·4· · · · ·A.· · I don't think so. | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Okay.· We can move on to | |\n| ·6· ·another property. | |\n| ·7· · · · · · · ·I know we spoke earlier about the | |\n| ·8· ·Indian Field property? | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · Right, right. | |\n| 10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall anything else | |\n| 11· ·about why -- let me strike that actually. | |\n| 12· · · · · · · ·All right.· The next property that I'm | |\n| 13· ·aware of that they looked at is -- or maybe not | |\n| 14· ·sequentially, but do you recall a property at | |\n| 15· ·11 Hurlingham Drive that was looked at in | |\n| 16· ·December 2020? | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't remember that property. | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Let's me ask you to turn to | |\n| 19· ·Tab 59. | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Are we up to 11? | |\n| 21· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· I think so. | |\n| 22· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· Let's mark as | |\n| 23· · · · ·Tab 11, a document Bates stamped WBAM_008335 | |\n| 24· · · · ·through 339. | |\n| 25· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 11, e-mail | |\n| | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 51 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_008335 through | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·339, was marked for identification at this | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·time.) | | |\n| ·5· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·Q.· · Which I believe is an e-mail chain | | |\n| ·7· ·between Mr. Krasner, a Mr. Frank Dong, and | | |\n| ·8· ·yourself. | | |\n| ·9· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | | |\n| 10· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| 11· · · · ·Q.· · And do you see Mr. Krasner writes at | | |\n| 12· ·10:25 a.m. on December 15, 2020:· \"Hi, Frank and | | |\n| 13· ·Margaret.· I just spoke with Miles, and he advised | | |\n| 14· ·the team will not move forward on this property. | | |\n| 15· ·Thank you.\" | | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| 17· · · · ·Q.· · Does that refresh your recollection | | |\n| 18· ·about Mr. Krasner informing you and Mr. Dong that | | |\n| 19· ·Mr. Kwok did not want to purchase the | | |\n| 20· ·11 Hurlingham Drive property? | | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember this, but according | | |\n| 22· ·to the e-mail, it says Miles advised the team that | | |\n| 23· ·they're not going forward. | | |\n| 24· · · · ·Q.· · And the vehicle here that Mr. Kwok was | | |\n| 25· ·using to potentially make this purchase was -- | | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 52 |\n|------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· ·appears to be Hudson Diamond, correct? | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And that's one of the shell companies | |\n| | ·5· ·that Mr. Kwok would use to consider real estate | |\n| | ·6· ·purchases, correct? | |\n| | ·7· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·A.· · It was another LLC that they used to | |\n| | ·9· ·purchase properties. | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Right.· And here, it's Mr. Kwok, | |\n| | 11· ·correct, that's who Mr. Krasner spoke with? | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · Well, that's who -- yeah, that's who | |\n| | 13· ·Mr. Krasner said in his e-mail advised him not to | |\n| 14· ·go forward. | | |\n| 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| | 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· And let's mark -- turn to | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Tab 57, and mark it as Whitman Breed | |\n| | 18· · · · ·Exhibit 12, document Bates stamped | |\n| | 19· · · · ·WBAM_008641 through 43, which I believe | |\n| | 20· · · · ·you'll tell me is a December 14th, so one | |\n| | 21· · · · ·day prior, e-mail chain between yourself and | |\n| | 22· · · · ·Mr. Frank Dong with regard to 11 Hurlingham | |\n| | 23· · · · ·purchased by Hudson Diamond. | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 12, e-mail | |\n| | 25· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_008641 through | |\n| | | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 53 | |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· · · · ·643, was marked for identification at this | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·time.) | | |\n| ·4· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you remember Mr. Dong? | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember Mr. Dong. | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·Q.· · If you look at the first e-mail he | | |\n| 10· ·sends you in this chain, which is on 8642, | | |\n| 11· ·Mr. Dong writes you and says (as read):· Hi, | | |\n| 12· ·Margaret.· Nice to e-meet you.· I am the buy side | | |\n| 13· ·agent for the deal.· He goes on and says (as | | |\n| 14· ·read):· Boss came to see the house personally. | | |\n| 15· ·Sellers spent 11 million to renovate the property | | |\n| 16· ·but moved to Florida already.· Boss is willing to | | |\n| 17· ·finish the house himself. | | |\n| 18· · · · · · · ·Did you understand Mr. Dong to be | | |\n| 19· ·referring to Mr. Kwok when he referenced the | | |\n| 20· ·\"boss\"? | | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember this, and I don't | | |\n| 22· ·know.· I don't remember this.· I don't remember | | |\n| 23· ·Mr. Dong.· I don't know. | | |\n| 24· · · · ·Q.· · But this is an e-mail you -- you have | | |\n| 25· ·no question that you received this e-mail from | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 55 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | Page 54 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|--|---------|\n| ·2· ·Mr. Dong, correct? | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes, right, correct. | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And you're not aware of any other | | |\n| ·5· ·decision maker with regard to this property other | | |\n| ·6· ·than Mr. Kwok, correct? | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · You know, I don't know who else is | | |\n| ·8· ·involved.· I mean, I don't know who else makes | | |\n| ·9· ·decisions in the family, so, I don't know. | | |\n| 10· · · · ·Q.· · Are you aware of -- have you ever been | | |\n| 11· ·told that anyone in the family makes decisions | | |\n| 12· ·with regard to these properties other than | | |\n| 13· ·Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · I've never been told -- I never was | | |\n| 15· ·told who made any of the decisions. | | |\n| 16· · · · ·Q.· · Well, if we look back at Exhibit 11 -- | | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · Right, in their e-mails. | | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · In their e-mails, you're told that | | |\n| 19· ·Mr. Kwok is the one that's making the decision, | | |\n| 20· ·correct? | | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Mr. Krasner does tell you that | | |\n| 23· ·Mr. Kwok advised the team not to move forward. | | |\n| 24· · · · · · · ·And I want to be clear, you were never | | |\n| 25· ·told by Mr. Krasner that any other member of | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 56 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 55 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· ·Mr. Kwok's family ever made a decision with regard | | |\n| ·3· ·to the purchase or not purchase of any property, | | |\n| ·4· ·correct? | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · Correct, he never told me who made the | | |\n| ·6· ·decisions. | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Other than when he told you Mr. Kwok | | |\n| ·8· ·was making decisions? | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · Other than in that e-mail, from what I | | |\n| 10· ·remember, yep. | | |\n| 11· · · · ·Q.· · And we've seen other e-mails where | | |\n| 12· ·Mr. Kwok -- Mr. Kwok is referenced as negotiating | | |\n| 13· ·and making decisions, correct? | | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| 15· · · · ·Q.· · So to be clear, you were advised | | |\n| 16· ·periodically that Mr. Kwok was making decisions | | |\n| 17· ·with regard to properties, correct? | | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| 19· · · · ·Q.· · And you were never advised that any | | |\n| 20· ·other member of Mr. Kwok's family was making | | |\n| 21· ·decisions with regard to properties, correct? | | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | | |\n| 23· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection of anyone | | |\n| 24· ·in the family ever making a decision with regard | | |\n| 25· ·to a property other than Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 57 of 99\n\n| | | Page 56 |\n|----------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | |\n| | ·2· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you believe that you were ever told | |\n| ·4· ·that? | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I really don't remember | |\n| | ·6· ·if anybody else -- I don't know. | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · I guess what I'm asking is:· When you | |\n| | ·8· ·say you don't know, is that because you think that | |\n| | ·9· ·someone may have and you can't -- you don't have a | |\n| | 10· ·specific recollection or -- | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Let's him finish the | |\n| 12· · · · ·question. | | |\n| | 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Right. | |\n| | 14· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, I know you're using your | |\n| | 15· ·best recollection and I appreciate that.· But I | |\n| | 16· ·just -- it's important, I just want to have a | |\n| 17· ·clear record. | | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·Do you have a recollection of any | |\n| | 19· ·member of Mr. Kwok's family, other than himself, | |\n| | 20· ·ever providing instructions either through | |\n| | 21· ·Mr. Krasner or directly or any other | |\n| | 22· ·representative with regard to whether to buy or | |\n| | 23· ·sell or how to handle any of the potential | |\n| | 24· ·purchases you were involved with? | |\n| | 25· · · · ·A.· · No, I have no recollection. | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | | Page 57 |\n|---------------------------------------------------|------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 16· ·think it was Golden Spring or Greenwich Land | | |\n| 17· ·purchased it and bought the property. | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | ·6· ·Road? | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY
·2· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Okay.· Let's move on from that
·3· ·property.
·4· · · · · · · ·You recall that Mr. Kwok also involved
·5· ·you with regard to the purchase of 33 Ferncliff
·7· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form.
·8· · · · · · · ·You can answer.
·9· · · · ·A.· · Yes.
10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· What do you recall about that
11· ·transaction?
12· · · · ·A.· · That transaction, he was -- or -- Max
13· ·said that -- I believe that it was going to be --
14· ·the property was going to be for a family member
15· ·or family members and that house -- he -- or I
18· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall which family member
19· ·Mr. Krasner said would be living in the property?
20· · · · ·A.· · No.
21· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever visit the property?
22· · · · ·A.· · No.
23· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever there when anyone from
24· ·the family visited the property?
25· · · · ·A.· · I've never been to the property. |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 58 |\n|--------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know if any member of the | |\n| | ·3· ·family ever visited the property prior to its | |\n| ·4· ·purchase? | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · How would you compare the size of this | |\n| | ·7· ·property to the other properties that Mr. Kwok had | |\n| ·8· ·been looking at? | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · This property was less in value. I | |\n| | 10· ·think it was around 2 million. | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Let's mark as Whitman Breed | |\n| | 12· · · · ·Exhibit 12 -- | |\n| | 13· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Fourteen. | |\n| | 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Fourteen?· Thank you. | |\n| | 15· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Thirteen. | |\n| | 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Thirteen?· Even better. | |\n| | 17· · · · · · · ·Okay.· It's Bates stamped WBAM_006317. | |\n| | 18· · · · ·It's Tab 37.· It's an e-mail from -- it | |\n| | 19· · · · ·appears to be an e-mail from Ms. Conboy to a | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Joel Kaye, Gideon Fountain, and Martha | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Jeffrey, August 19, 2019 regarding | |\n| 22· · · · ·33 Ferncliff. | | |\n| | 23· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 13, e-mail | |\n| | 24· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_006317, was marked | |\n| | 25· · · · ·for identification at this time.) | |\n| | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 60 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | Page 59 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recall this e-mail | |\n| ·4· ·that you wrote? | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember it, but I see I wrote | |\n| ·6· ·it to Joel. | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And who is Joel Kaye? | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·A.· · Joel Kaye was the seller's attorney. | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · And you write:· \"I reviewed the | |\n| | 10· ·changes with my client.· The only change he has is | |\n| 11· ·with the five business-day grace period - he would | | |\n| 12· ·like to make it three business days because the | | |\n| 13· ·family is moving from California, their lease | | |\n| 14· ·ends, and they need to get the kids settled and | | |\n| 15· ·enrolled in school.\" | | |\n| 16· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 18· · · · ·Q.· · And who is the \"he\" being referred to | |\n| 19· ·in this e-mail? | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·A.· · Max.· That would be Max. | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And do you recall Mr. Krasner | |\n| 22· ·telling you that the family that was going to live | | |\n| 23· ·at 33 Ferncliff was moving from California? | | |\n| | 24· · · · ·A.· · He must have since that's what I wrote | |\n| 25· ·in the e-mail. | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 60 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·Q.· · And the suggestion I also assume is | |\n| | ·3· ·that he told you that there were school-aged | |\n| ·4· ·children? | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · So this -- the reference to the | |\n| ·7· ·\"family\" here is not Mr. Kwok's family, correct, | | |\n| | ·8· ·meaning his immediate family? | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · Correct, correct. | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · This wasn't a house for his wife and | |\n| | 11· ·adult children, to your understanding? | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · Not to my understanding. | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall what the source | |\n| 14· ·of funds used to pay for this house was? | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · Now, it says:· \"My client is wiring | |\n| 17· ·the funds to our trustee account.\" | | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·Do you recall where they wired the | |\n| 19· ·funds from? | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't remember.· I don't know. | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if they purchased the | |\n| 22· ·house in cash or if they had financing? | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·A.· · There was no financing. | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did they have to provide any type of | |\n| | 25· ·financial due diligence or representations to the | |\n| | | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 61 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· ·seller prior to purchasing the house? | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. | | |\n| ·4· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask to mark as | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Exhibit 14, a document behind Tab 39.· It's | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·Bates stamped WBAM_010121, and it is an | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·August 20, 2019 e-mail from yourself to | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Ms. Bruno, subject:· \"Greenwich Land LLC.\" | | |\n| ·9· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 14, e-mail | | |\n| 10· · · · ·dated August 20, 2019, Bates stamped | | |\n| 11· · · · ·WBAM_0101021, was marked for identification | | |\n| 12· · · · ·at this time.) | | |\n| 13· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| 14· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? | | |\n| 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| 16· · · · ·Q.· · Who is Ms. Bruno? | | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · My paralegal. | | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall sending this | | |\n| 19· ·e-mail? | | |\n| 20· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember sending it, but I | | |\n| 21· ·sent it.· I don't remember. | | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see you write:· \"Can you check | | |\n| 23· ·who the members are of Greenwich Land LLC - I | | |\n| 24· ·would like to confirm that Max Krasner is a member | | |\n| 25· ·- it is a Delaware LLC.\" | | |\n\n| | | Page 62 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | |\n| ·2· · · · · · · ·Do you recall if Ms. Bruno ever did | | |\n| ·3· ·that search? | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if you ever asked | |\n| ·6· ·Mr. Krasner if he was a member of Greenwich Land | | |\n| ·7· ·LLC? | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever inform you that | |\n| 10· ·he was not a member of Greenwich Land LLC? | | |\n| | 11· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember. | |\n| | 12· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know -- or I should say, at the | |\n| 13· ·time of the transaction, did you know who the | | |\n| 14· ·member -- who the member or members of Greenwich | | |\n| 15· ·Land LLC were? | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I don't remember. | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection with | |\n| 18· ·regard to this issue? | | |\n| 19· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that | |\n| 21· · · · ·aside. | | |\n| | 22· · · · · · · ·I'm going to mark as Exhibit 15, a | |\n| 23· · · · ·document Bates -- behind Tab 40, Bates | | |\n| 24· · · · ·stamped WBAM_006741, which is an August 30, | | |\n| | 25· · · · ·2019 e-mail between yourself Mr. Kaye and a | |\n| | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 64 of 99\n\n| | Page 63 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | |\n| ·2· · · · ·number of cc's. | | |\n| ·3· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 15, e-mail | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_006741, was marked | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·for identification at this time.) | | |\n| ·6· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·Q.· · It says (as read):· Joel, my clients | | |\n| 10· ·were at the house, the U-Haul truck hit the side | | |\n| 11· ·of the house.· My client is sending me pictures. | | |\n| 12· ·Brick will need to be replaced. | | |\n| 13· · · · · · · ·Do you recall anything about this? | | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · Just that Max called and said that I | | |\n| 15· ·guess this U-Haul truck hit the side of the house, | | |\n| 16· ·and I don't remember how we -- I don't remember | | |\n| 17· ·how we resolved it, if Joel's -- if the seller | | |\n| 18· ·gave a credit or -- or not.· I don't remember. | | |\n| 19· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall who was specifically at | | |\n| 20· ·the house when the U-Haul truck hit it? | | |\n| 21· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. | | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| 23· · · · · · · ·Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you about | | |\n| 24· ·any members of Mr. Kwok's family other than | | |\n| 25· ·Mr. Kwok ever visiting this property? | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 65 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 64 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember. | |\n| | ·3· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember. | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| | ·6· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· I ask to mark | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Exhibit 16, Whitman Breed deposition | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Exhibit 16, a document behind Tab 41, Bates | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·stamped WBAM_007160 through 64, which is an | | |\n| 10· · · · ·e-mail chain between Ms. Bruno, Mr. Krasner, | | |\n| 11· · · · ·and yourself. | | |\n| 12· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 16, e-mail | | |\n| 13· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_007160 through | | |\n| 14· · · · ·164, was marked for identification at this | | |\n| 15· · · · ·time.) | | |\n| 16· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · And specifically, do you see that | |\n| 18· ·document? | | |\n| 19· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · It appears to be an e-mail chain | |\n| 21· ·described? | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·A.· · Excuse me? | |\n| | 23· · · · ·Q.· · Does it appear to be an e-mail chain | |\n| 24· ·between Mr. Krasner and Ms. Bruno and yourself | | |\n| 25· ·with regard to 33 Ferncliff's inspections? | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 65 |\n|-----------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · If you turn to the Bates stamp ending | |\n| | ·4· ·161, there is an e-mail from Mr. Krasner to | |\n| | ·5· ·Ms. Bruno and yourself on October 21st in which he | |\n| | ·6· ·says:· \"Okay.· Thanks.· Let me know what date and | |\n| | ·7· ·I will advise the tenant ahead of time.\" | |\n| | ·8· · · · · · · ·Ms. Conboy, do you recall that the | |\n| | ·9· ·33 Ferncliff property was going to be rented to a | |\n| 10· ·tenant? | | |\n| | 11· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember that.· I don't | |\n| 12· ·remember that. | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · What -- as a real estate professional, | |\n| | 14· ·how would you understand when someone refers to | |\n| | 15· ·that there being a tenant, does that make you | |\n| | 16· ·understand there to be -- it's to be a rental? | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · Well, that there's a -- that there | |\n| | 18· ·would be a lease and they're paying rent or the | |\n| | 19· ·people are living there and paying rent. | |\n| | 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask to mark as | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 17, a document Bates | |\n| | 22· · · · ·stamped WBAM_000002 through 05. | |\n| | 23· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· That's Tab 42, right? | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yes, sir. | |\n| | 25· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 17, Trust | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 67 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 66 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·Ledger, Bates stamped WBAM_000002 through 5, | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.) | | |\n| ·4· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this | |\n| ·6· ·document? | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes.· It's a trust ledger for -- for a | |\n| ·8· ·trustee account. | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Can you explain to me what that is? | |\n| | 10· · · · ·A.· · So when we represent anyone in a | |\n| | 11· ·purchase or sale, the money flows through our | |\n| 12· ·trustee account, and this is -- and it shows what | | |\n| 13· ·goes in, what's wired out, what checks are -- | | |\n| | 14· ·are -- go out with a transaction or cut for a | |\n| 15· ·transaction. | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · Could you walk me through this | |\n| | 17· ·document generally, what the flow of funds were | |\n| | 18· ·for this transaction? | |\n| | 19· · · · ·A.· · So the first part is the purchase of | |\n| 20· ·Ferncliff. | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · And who's the party making the | |\n| | 22· ·purchase of -- it says:· \"Golden Spring\" -- | |\n| | 23· · · · ·A.· · Golden Spring and Greenwich Land. | |\n| | 24· ·This is Greenwich Land. | |\n| | 25· · · · ·Q.· · So who's the one making the purchase | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·2· ·here?
·3· · · · ·A.· · Greenwich Land, it looks like.
·4· · · · ·Q.· · But the first entry says:· \"On behalf
·5· ·of Golden Spring.\" | |\n|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--|\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| ·6· · · · · · · ·So can you just help me sort out how | |\n| ·7· ·this works because -- | |\n| ·8· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· So can I just ask the | |\n| ·9· · · · ·witness to test -- Avi, are you asking her | |\n| 10· · · · ·for her memory of the structure of the | |\n| 11· · · · ·transaction or are you asking her what the | |\n| 12· · · · ·document is saying?· Because I thought it | |\n| 13· · · · ·was what the document was saying. | |\n| 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Well, look, if there is a | |\n| 15· · · · ·difference, I would like to know.· I'm just | |\n| 16· · · · ·really -- Ms. Conboy is -- as your | |\n| 17· · · · ·representative, I'm just asking her to | |\n| 18· · · · ·explain to me how -- how to understand this | |\n| 19· · · · ·ledger. | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·And I don't know if there's a | |\n| 21· · · · ·distinction between how she understands it | |\n| 22· · · · ·today, so I could ask that foundational | |\n| 23· · · · ·question. | |\n| 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Well, there might be | |\n| 25· · · · ·other documents -- if you want to know how | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 69 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 68 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·it was structured or purchased or whatever, | |\n| ·3· · · · ·there might be other documents that are, you | |\n| ·4· · · · ·know, better for that than this. | |\n| ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I just want to understand | |\n| ·6· · · · ·how this document works.· This is -- well, | |\n| ·7· · · · ·why don't we just take it in pieces. | |\n| ·8· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n| ·9· · · · ·Q.· · This is Whitman Breed's trust ledger, | |\n| 10· ·correct? | |\n| 11· · · · ·A.· · Right, right.· It's an accounting. | |\n| 12· ·It's our accounting.· So for every sale we do | |\n| 13· ·this. | |\n| 14· · · · · · · ·So it looks like -- it looks like a | |\n| 15· ·million two came in on August 27th on behalf of | |\n| 16· ·Golden Spring. | |\n| 17· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · And then it was Capital One, but then | |\n| 19· ·it has Greenwich, so it was probably for the | |\n| 20· ·benefit of Greenwich Land LLC. | |\n| 21· · · · · · · ·And then these checks on the other | |\n| 22· ·side are everything that's going out, like First | |\n| 23· ·American Title Insurance, the balance due to the | |\n| 24· ·other attorney, the down payment -- let's see -- | |\n| 25· ·the Town of Greenwich recording fees.· So those | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 69 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·are all the items coming out. | |\n| ·3· · · · ·Q.· · And they all say:· \"On behalf of | |\n| ·4· ·Golden Springs.\"· So if I'm following along, this | |\n| ·5· ·is Golden Spring paying the 1.24 million on behalf | |\n| ·6· ·of Greenwich Land, and then there's all the money | |\n| ·7· ·that goes out and that's all -- it says:· \"On | |\n| ·8· ·behalf of\" -- so those are payments being made on | |\n| ·9· ·behalf of Golden Spring out of the account, | |\n| 10· ·correct? | |\n| 11· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I can't say that for | |\n| 12· ·sure because our accounting -- I don't know if | |\n| 13· ·that's correct or not.· Because the accounting, | |\n| 14· ·they just used -- those are numbers of how we | |\n| 15· ·refer to matters.· I don't know if that's actually | |\n| 16· ·how it -- how they -- how -- if Golden Spring -- I | |\n| 17· ·don't know.· I don't know. | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · Well, what does it mean when it says | |\n| 19· ·(as read):· Out:· J.P. Morgan Chase on behalf of | |\n| 20· ·Golden Spring, just explain, how does that work? | |\n| 21· ·What does that mean? | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · I'd have to ask my bookkeeper. I | |\n| 23· ·don't know. | |\n| 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Form. | |\n| 25· · · · ·Q.· · Does it indicate that this is a | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 71 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 70 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· ·payment on behalf of anyone other than Golden | |\n| ·3· ·Spring? | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·A.· · Or of Greenwich Land.· I don't -- | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·Q.· · There's no reference to Greenwich Land | |\n| ·6· ·there, right? | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes -- yeah, there is. | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Where? | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · Greenwich Land LLC purchased | |\n| 10· ·33 Ferncliff. | | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · ·These are questions that you'd have to | |\n| | 12· ·ask my bookkeeper, because I really don't know how | |\n| 13· ·they label these things, but you've got Greenwich | | |\n| 14· ·Land LLC up there, too. | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·Q.· · Well, under \"In,\" they received money | |\n| | 16· ·from -- right, there's money coming in from Golden | |\n| | 17· ·Spring on behalf of Greenwich Land, that's what | |\n| | 18· ·you told me, right? | |\n| | 19· · · · ·A.· · That's what it says here. | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · For all the \"out\" entries, all the | |\n| | 21· ·outs just reference Golden Spring, not Greenwich | |\n| 22· ·Land, correct? | | |\n| 23· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Hey, Avi, do you want | |\n| | 25· · · · ·to go off the record for a minute? | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 72 of 99\n\n| | Page 71 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | |\n| ·2· · · · · · · ·If you want to go off the record, we | | |\n| ·3· · · · ·can probably explain it a little bit more | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·clearly. | | |\n| ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Sure, we can go off the | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·record for a second. | | |\n| ·7· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·record at 11:57 a.m. | | |\n| ·9· · · · · · · ·(Recess.) | | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We are back on the | | |\n| 11· · · · ·record at 11:59 a.m. | | |\n| 12· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| 13· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, a couple other questions. | | |\n| 14· · · · · · · ·In the middle, there's a grayed | | |\n| 15· ·outline which says:· \"In:· Converted from tabs on | | |\n| 16· ·behalf of Golden Spring.\"· On the bottom, it says: | | |\n| 17· ·\"Hudson Diamond.\" | | |\n| 18· · · · · · · ·Is that money coming in from Hudson | | |\n| 19· ·Diamond into this account? | | |\n| 20· · · · ·A.· · I'm not sure where you're looking. | | |\n| 21· · · · ·Q.· · Right in the middle, there's a big | | |\n| 22· ·gray box, it says:· \"In.\" | | |\n| 23· · · · · · · ·Entry No. 795777? | | |\n| 24· · · · ·A.· · 795777. | | |\n| 25· · · · · · · ·That was your receipts.· So it looks | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 72 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·like -- oh, I see here.· There was a receipt for | |\n| ·3· ·\\$2,800. | |\n| ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· My question is just:· Is that | |\n| ·5· ·money coming from Hudson Diamond, because it says: | |\n| ·6· ·\"In\"? | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · Again, I don't know.· It's not clear | |\n| ·8· ·to me if -- it's not clear.· I don't understand | |\n| ·9· ·how they're -- how this program was working. | |\n| 10· · · · ·Q.· · Understood. | |\n| 11· · · · ·A.· · Yeah. | |\n| 12· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· I guess we'll try to clarify it | |\n| 13· ·later. | |\n| 14· · · · · · · ·One other question, if you can answer | |\n| 15· ·it:· If you turn to the next page, there's an | |\n| 16· ·entry that says 1102379, and it's a distribution | |\n| 17· ·of approximately 2.27 million on behalf of Golden | |\n| 18· ·Spring, and it says:· \"Bank:· The First Bank of | |\n| 19· ·Greenwich.\"· Regarding net sale proceeds, 33 -- | |\n| 20· ·can you just -- is that the bank account from | |\n| 21· ·which -- | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · That's the bank -- they told us to -- | |\n| 23· ·Max Krasner told us to wire the sales proceeds to | |\n| 24· ·that account. | |\n| 25· · · · ·Q.· · Got it. | |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 74 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 73 |\n|---------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · · · · ·So this is money that -- | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·A.· · The sale proceeds. | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · This is from when the house, 33 | |\n| ·5· ·Ferncliff, was sold? | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·A.· · Right, correct. | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · So when 33 Ferncliff was sold again | |\n| | ·8· ·and Mr. Kwok was the seller, this was the bank | |\n| | ·9· ·account that the money was sent to, correct?· This | |\n| | 10· ·is First Bank of Greenwich? | |\n| | 11· · · · ·A.· · That's what Max advised me to wire it | |\n| 12· ·to that account. | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· There is a block over the | |\n| | 14· ·account number. | |\n| | 15· · · · · · · ·Is that a redaction you made or the | |\n| 16· ·firm made? | | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · Yeah. | | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· We'd ask that you | |\n| | 19· · · · ·provide us with the full account number. | |\n| | 20· · · · · · · ·So, Michael, maybe that's something | |\n| | 21· · · · ·maybe you can get accounting to provide us | |\n| 22· · · · ·as well. | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Did Mr. Krasner tell you whose | |\n| | 24· ·bank account that was? | |\n| 25· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 75 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 74 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·Q.· · And that's not the bank account from | |\n| | ·3· ·which the funds were given to originally purchase | |\n| ·4· ·the house, correct? | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · If we look at the trust ledger, that | |\n| ·7· ·was a Capital One account? | | |\n| | ·8· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· You have to answer | |\n| ·9· · · · ·\"yes\" or \"no.\" | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·A.· · Yes, yes. | |\n| | 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· So the money to purchase | |\n| 12· ·33 Ferncliff came from a Capital One account but | | |\n| 13· ·the proceeds from selling that home in 2022 went | | |\n| 14· ·to a First Bank of Greenwich account, correct? | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · And you were never told in whose name | |\n| | 17· ·that First Bank of Greenwich bank account | |\n| 18· ·belonged, correct? | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any other information | |\n| 21· ·about who received the proceeds of 33 Ferncliff | | |\n| 22· ·other than the fact that it was sent to this First | | |\n| | 23· ·Bank of Greenwich account? | |\n| 24· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 25· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Are we up to 18, I believe? | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 76 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 75 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · · · · ·Does that sound right to everyone? | |\n| ·3· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Yes. | |\n| ·4· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I ask to mark as Whitman | |\n| ·5· · · · ·Breed Deposition Exhibit 18, a document | |\n| ·6· · · · ·behind Tab 60, Bates stamped 008330 through | |\n| ·7· · · · ·34, which is an e-mail chain between | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Mr. Krasner and Ms. Conboy regarding | |\n| ·9· · · · ·33 Ferncliff dated February 10, 2021. | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 18, e-mail | |\n| 11· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_008330 through | |\n| 12· · · · ·334, was marked for identification at this | |\n| 13· · · · ·time.) | |\n| 14· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Are you saying 8330 to | |\n| 15· · · · ·334? | |\n| 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yes. | |\n| 17· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n| 18· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this | |\n| 19· ·e-mail chain between you and Mr. Krasner? | |\n| 20· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember it, but it's an | |\n| 21· ·e-mail chain between us, but I don't remember. | |\n| 22· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see Mr. Krasner in February of | |\n| 23· ·2021 talks about gifting 33 Ferncliff to a Qing | |\n| 24· ·Cai? | |\n| 25· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | |\n| | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 76 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about any | |\n| | ·4· ·discussions regarding the gifting of 33 Ferncliff | |\n| ·5· ·to a Qing Cai? | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember anything about that. | |\n| | ·7· ·I don't remember gifting it.· I don't remember if | |\n| ·8· ·we ever even filed the deed quitclaiming it to | | |\n| ·9· ·that person. | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · And ultimately, that wasn't done | |\n| 11· ·because in fact -- | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · Title is still in Greenwich Land. | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · Right, because they sell it | |\n| 14· ·landlocked? | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·A.· · Yeah, so I don't remember. | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection about who | |\n| 17· ·Qing Cai was? | | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see from Exhibit 18, it appears | |\n| 20· ·that Qing Cai was the person -- the tenant living | | |\n| 21· ·at 33 Ferncliff Road? | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·A.· · That the -- Max has her -- has his or | |\n| | 23· ·her address as 33 Ferncliff. | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall any discussion about | |\n| | 25· ·Mr. Kwok wanting to gift the property to Ms. Cai | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 77 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·or to anyone else? | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·A.· · As I said, I haven't talked to -- I | |\n| | ·4· ·never talked to Mr. Kwok.· It was Max.· So I don't | |\n| ·5· ·remember Max telling me about gifting it. | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · But you understood Mr. Krasner worked | |\n| ·7· ·for the owner, not that Mr. Krasner was the owner, | | |\n| ·8· ·correct? | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·A.· · Right, correct, correct. | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection about why | |\n| 11· ·the decision was made not to gift it and, in fact, | | |\n| 12· ·to hold onto the property? | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. | |\n| | 14· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall -- we've talked a | |\n| | 15· ·little bit about this -- that in April of 2022, in | |\n| 16· ·fact, 33 Ferncliff Road was sold? | | |\n| 17· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | 18· · · · ·Q.· · When was the first time you heard that | |\n| 19· ·the owner of 33 Ferncliff wanted to sell the | | |\n| 20· ·property? | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·A.· · I -- I don't remember.· It would | |\n| 22· ·either be from Max or the broker.· I don't | | |\n| 23· ·remember which one. | | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did they ever tell you anything about | |\n| 25· ·why they wanted to sell the house? | | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 78 | |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · No. | | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Did they ever discuss with you the | | |\n| | ·4· ·fact that there was an order from a New York State | | |\n| | ·5· ·Court restraining sale of assets of Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| ·6· · · · ·A.· · No. | | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Or that they had been served process | | |\n| | ·8· ·with regard to not selling this house? | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · No. | | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · That's not something Mr. Krasner told | | |\n| 11· ·you, correct? | | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · No, correct. | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · How long do you recall the process | | |\n| 14· ·being from when the house -- when you were first | | | |\n| 15· ·told that they were thinking of selling the house | | | |\n| 16· ·to when it was sold? | | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember the dates. I | | |\n| | 18· ·don't -- I don't know.· I don't remember the | | |\n| 19· ·dates. | | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall it being a relatively | | |\n| 21· ·quick process? | | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·A.· · No.· I don't remember.· I don't | | |\n| | 23· ·remember it being relatively quick.· I don't | | |\n| | 24· ·remember how long it took. | | |\n| | 25· · · · ·Q.· · Given the fact that at some point you | | |\n| | | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 80 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 79 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· ·were told that the property was going to be | |\n| | ·3· ·gifted, do you recall ever being surprised to hear | |\n| | ·4· ·that now they were -- now the property was to be | |\n| ·5· ·sold? | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·A.· · No, I -- no, I wasn't surprised. | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And other than the fact that the | |\n| | ·8· ·proceeds or the money were sent to the First | |\n| ·9· ·Greenwich bank account, do you have any knowledge | | |\n| 10· ·as to where the proceeds for 33 Ferncliff went | | |\n| 11· ·once they were transferred? | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · No, no.· No. | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever speak with Mrs. Kwok? | |\n| 14· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know the name of Mr. Kwok's | |\n| 16· ·wife? | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · I have no idea, no. | |\n| | 18· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever had any communications | |\n| 19· ·with her? | | |\n| 20· · · · ·A.· · No. | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·Q.· · If I said the name Hin Chi Nok, would | |\n| 22· ·that refresh your recollection? | | |\n| 23· · · · ·A.· · Nope. | | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever given any instructions | |\n| | 25· ·from someone on behalf of Mr. -- Ms. Nok with | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 81 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 80 | |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--|\n| | | | |\n| ·2· ·regard to any of the properties? | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| ·9· ·son, Guo? | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| 16· ·with regard to 33 Ferncliff that you were told | | | |\n| 17· ·were being given on behalf of Mr. Chen Guo -- | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| 20· ·given any -- were you ever told -- are you aware | | | |\n| 21· ·of any involvement that Mae Guo had with -- in | | | |\n| 22· ·connection with 33 Ferncliff? | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| 25· ·Mr. Krasner, did he ever tell you that he needed | | | |\n| | | ·3· · · · ·A.· · Not that I'm aware of.
·4· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know if Ms. Nok had any
·5· ·involvement whatsoever in connection with the sale
·6· ·of 33 Ferncliff?
·7· · · · ·A.· · I have no idea.
·8· · · · ·Q.· · How about the debtor's son, Miles'
10· · · · ·A.· · I don't know, no.
11· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever heard that name before?
12· · · · ·A.· · No, I haven't.
13· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever heard the name Chen Guo?
14· · · · ·A.· · No.
15· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever receive any instructions
18· · · · ·A.· · Yeah, not that I'm aware of.
19· · · · ·Q.· · And the same question:· Were you ever
23· · · · ·A.· · No.
24· · · · ·Q.· · In all your communications with | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 82 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 81 | |\n|---------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· ·to get approval from Mr. Kwok's son prior to | | | |\n| | ·3· ·making any decisions? | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·A.· · No. | | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you that he | | |\n| ·6· ·needed to get approval from Mr. Kwok's wife, | | | |\n| | ·7· ·Ms. Nok, prior to making any decisions? | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · No. | | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Did he ever tell you he needed to get | | |\n| | 10· ·approval from Mr. Kwok's daughter, Ms. Mae Guo, | | |\n| 11· ·prior to making any decisions? | | | |\n| 12· · · · ·A.· · No. | | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · Is that true for all properties that | | |\n| | 14· ·you looked at on behalf of Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | | |\n| 16· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | | |\n| | 17· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· We can put that to one | | |\n| 18· · · · ·side. | | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · Now, there was another property that | | |\n| | 20· ·involved Mr. Kwok where you did not represent him, | | |\n| | 21· ·right, 373 Taconic Road? | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·A.· · That's right. | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·Q.· · And you represented the seller when | | |\n| | 24· ·Mr. Kwok was the buyer of that property, correct? | | |\n| | 25· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| | | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 82 | |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| | ·2· · · · ·Q.· · And did you get a waiver such that you | | |\n| | ·3· ·could represent the seller in that property even | | |\n| | ·4· ·though Mr. Kwok was to be the buyer? | | |\n| ·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about that | | |\n| ·7· ·transaction? | | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't recall anything unusual in the | | |\n| ·9· ·transaction, nothing out of the ordinary. | | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall receiving | | |\n| | 11· ·financial due diligence from the potential buyer | | |\n| 12· ·prior to completing -- entering into a contract? | | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. | | |\n| | 14· · · · ·Q.· · How about once a contract was entered | | |\n| 15· ·into? | | | |\n| | 16· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if there was financing | | |\n| 18· ·for this home? | | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·A.· · Excuse me? | | |\n| | 20· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if there was any | | |\n| 21· ·financing for this home? | | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·A.· · I don't -- I don't remember.· I don't | | |\n| 23· ·know. | | | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall what funds Mr. Kwok used | | |\n| | 25· ·to purchase 3073 Ferncliff -- Taconic Road -- | | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 83 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·excuse me? | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. | |\n| | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And your client was a | |\n| ·5· ·Mr. Augustine, correct? | | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And you had represented Mr. Augustine | |\n| ·8· ·previously? | | |\n| ·9· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · Do you remember Mr. Emile deNeree was | |\n| 11· ·the broker on behalf of the buyer for that | | |\n| 12· ·transaction? | | |\n| | 13· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. | |\n| | 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Let's mark as Whitman Breed | |\n| 15· · · · ·Deposition Exhibit 19.· Is that right? | | |\n| | 16· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Yep. | |\n| | 17· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Great. | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·Document behind Tab 55.· Document | |\n| 19· · · · ·Bates stamped WBAM_009051 through 53, which | | |\n| 20· · · · ·I believe you'll tell me is an e-mail chain | | |\n| 21· · · · ·between yourself, Mr. deNeree, Mr. Krasner | | |\n| 22· · · · ·and Ms. Bruno regarding 373 Taconic Road. | | |\n| | 23· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 19, e-mail | |\n| | 24· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_009051 through 53, | |\n| | 25· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.) | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 84 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | | |\n| | ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? | |\n| ·4· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·Q.· · And, in fact, there's an earlier | |\n| ·6· ·e-mail in the chain also from a Ms. Julie Burke to | | |\n| | ·7· ·Mr. deNeree that starts this all off, right? | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · And she has questions regarding funds | |\n| 10· ·still being held in escrow, correct? | | |\n| 11· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·Q.· · And then Mr. deNeree writes to you on | |\n| 13· ·August 19th, and he says:· \"Dear Margaret and | | |\n| 14· ·Max\" -- that's you and Mr. Krasner, correct? | | |\n| | 15· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | |\n| | 16· · · · ·Q.· · \"The sellers for 373 Taconic\" -- and | |\n| 17· ·that's Mr. Augustine, your client, right? | | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · \"Which was bought by Miles under | |\n| 20· ·Greenwich Land\" -- and that's Mr. Kwok purchasing | | |\n| 21· ·it through Greenwich Land, correct? | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·A.· · I -- yeah, that's what it says. | |\n| 23· ·That's what the e-mail says. | | |\n| | 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did you have any different | |\n| 25· ·understanding about the transaction? | | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 85 | |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember how they purchased | | |\n| ·3· ·it.· I really don't remember. | | |\n| ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· \"Are asking that the escrow | | |\n| ·5· ·accounts be released.\" | | |\n| ·6· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? | | |\n| ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes. | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·Q.· · And you inform Mr. deNeree that you | | |\n| ·9· ·represented Mr. Augustine, so either Mr. Krasner | | |\n| 10· ·or the purchasing attorney would be the one that | | |\n| 11· ·needed to be contacted, correct? | | |\n| 12· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| 13· · · · ·Q.· · And Mr. deNeree was the broker for | | |\n| 14· ·the buyer, not the seller, correct? | | |\n| 15· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember, but it looks like | | |\n| 16· ·that from the e-mail. | | |\n| 17· · · · ·Q.· · And he's saying -- as the broker for | | |\n| 18· ·the buyer, he's saying that the house was | | |\n| 19· ·bought -- he's telling you that the house was | | |\n| 20· ·bought by Mr. Kwok under the name of Greenwich | | |\n| 21· ·Land; correct? | | |\n| 22· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| 23· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| 24· · · · · · · ·When was the last transaction you | | |\n| 25· ·performed on behalf of Mr. Kwok, Greenwich Land, | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 87 of 99\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 86 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·Golden Springs or any other entity affiliated with | | |\n| ·3· ·Mr. Kwok? | | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·A.· · It was the sale of Ferncliff. | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·Q.· · And otherwise, you were just -- you | |\n| ·6· ·were on the opposite side of the transaction with | | |\n| ·7· ·regard to 373 Taconic Road, correct? | | |\n| ·8· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever been on the opposite | |\n| | 10· ·side of any other transactions involving Mr. Kwok? | |\n| | 11· · · · ·A.· · No.· Not that I'm aware of, no. | |\n| | 12· · · · ·Q.· · Since the Ferncliff property, has | |\n| 13· ·Mr. Kwok or Mr. Krasner or anyone else affiliated | | |\n| 14· ·with Mr. Kwok ever reached out to you with | | |\n| 15· ·regard -- or your firm with regard to any other | | |\n| 16· ·potential work? | | |\n| | 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't think so.· Not that I recall. | |\n| | 18· · · · ·Q.· · Are you aware of any other attorneys | |\n| 19· ·that have represented Mr. Kwok in connection with | | |\n| 20· ·real estate dealings? | | |\n| | 21· · · · ·A.· · No, not that I know of.· Just 373 | |\n| 22· ·but -- I don't -- that's it. | | |\n| | 23· · · · ·Q.· · Other than finding out through Google | |\n| 24· ·that Mr. Kwok is a billionaire of Chinese descent, | | |\n| 25· ·what else did you learn about Mr. Kwok in your | | |\n| | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 88 of 99\n\n| | | Page 87 |\n|-----------------------------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| ·9· ·about the entity called \"Greenwich Land\" other | | |\n| 10· ·than what we've discussed today? | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 13· ·Mr. Kwok who has any interest or control over | | |\n| 14· ·Greenwich Land? | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 17· ·anyone other than Mr. Kwok who controlled | | |\n| 18· ·Greenwich Land? | | |\n| | | |\n| 20· ·controlled it. | | |\n| | | |\n| 22· ·Golden Spring? | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY
·2· ·dealings with him?
·3· · · · ·A.· · That was it.· I really didn't learn
·4· ·too much about him.
·5· · · · ·Q.· · Did any of the brokers ever tell you
·6· ·anything about Mr. Kwok?
·7· · · · ·A.· · No.· Not that I remember, no.
·8· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever come to learn anything
11· · · · ·A.· · No.
12· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know of any person other than
15· · · · ·A.· · I have no idea.
16· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever told that there was
19· · · · ·A.· · I wasn't told who, as I said,
21· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever told who had controlled
23· · · · ·A.· · No.
24· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever told that there was any
25· ·decision maker other than Mr. Kwok in connection |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 89 of 99\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | | Page 88 | |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|--|\n| ·2· ·with real estate transactions related to the work | | | |\n| | ·3· ·you were doing for Golden Spring, Greenwich Land, | | |\n| ·4· ·or Hudson Diamond? | | | |\n| | ·5· · · · ·A.· · I was never told who was making the | | |\n| | ·6· ·decisions on any of them. | | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Except -- well -- | | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yeah, except in the e-mails, whatever | | |\n| | ·9· ·was sent to me, but that was it. | | |\n| | 10· · · · ·Q.· · And in those e-mails, the only person | | |\n| | 11· ·referenced was Miles Kwok, correct? | | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| | 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· Why don't we take a | | |\n| 14· · · · ·quick break. | | | |\n| 15· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· How long are you | | | |\n| 16· · · · ·thinking? | | | |\n| | 17· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Ten minutes? | | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay.· I'll go run over | | |\n| 19· · · · ·to the accounting people and see if I can | | | |\n| 20· · · · ·get that question answered. | | | |\n| | 21· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yeah, if you could check | | |\n| | 22· · · · ·for that account number, too, that would be | | |\n| 23· · · · ·great. | | | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay.· Thanks. | | |\n| | 25· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the | | |\n| | | | |\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 89 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·record at 12:23 p.m. | |\n| ·3· · · · · · · ·(Recess.) | |\n| ·4· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We are back on the | |\n| ·5· · · · ·record at 12:38 p.m. | |\n| ·6· · ·BY MR. LUFT: | |\n| ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, I'm going to ask you to | |\n| ·8· ·pull out Deposition Exhibit 17 again, which was | |\n| ·9· ·Bates stamped WBAM_00002 through 00005. | |\n| 10· · · · · · · ·Do you have that in front of you? | |\n| 11· · · · ·A.· · I do. | |\n| 12· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Now, your counsel has told me | |\n| 13· ·he's going to send me a non-redacted version with | |\n| 14· ·regard to the account for First Bank of Greenwich, | |\n| 15· ·so that will take care of that.· Okay? | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Right.· Sure, yep. | |\n| 17· · · · ·Q.· · And then I believe -- and I just want | |\n| 18· ·to clarify, because I believe you've done a little | |\n| 19· ·digging, which is very helpful, which is to say | |\n| 20· ·the entries with regard to which bank, whether it | |\n| 21· ·be Capital One or First Greenwich, all those -- | |\n| 22· ·those are actual manual entries done by Whitman | |\n| 23· ·Breed's accounting department based on the | |\n| 24· ·information they know to be true, correct? | |\n| 25· · · · ·A.· · That's right, yeah, correct. | |\n\n| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 90 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Terrific. | | |\n| | ·3· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that | |\n| ·4· · · · ·aside. | | |\n| | ·5· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Okay. | |\n| | ·6· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right.· Ms. Conboy, we've | |\n| | ·7· ·talked about a number of properties today. I | |\n| | ·8· ·believe every one we've talked about, with the | |\n| | ·9· ·exception of 373 Taconic, are properties that you | |\n| | 10· ·represented Mr. Kwok's interests in as potential | |\n| | 11· ·purchases.· I know -- is that correct? | |\n| | 12· · · · ·A.· · Correct, correct. | |\n| | 13· · · · ·Q.· · And for all of those, I believe you | |\n| | 14· ·interacted with Mr. Max Krasner as the | |\n| | 15· ·representative of Mr. Kwok, correct? | |\n| 16· · · · ·A.· · Correct. | | |\n| 17· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. | | |\n| 18· · · · ·A.· · Right. | | |\n| | 19· · · · ·Q.· · In your dealings with Mr. Krasner as | |\n| 20· ·Mr. Kwok's representative in connection with the | | |\n| 21· ·purchase of 33 Ferncliff, was there any difference | | |\n| | 22· ·in how you interacted with him with regard to that | |\n| | 23· ·property as opposed to the interactions you had | |\n| | 24· ·with Mr. Krasner in connection with any of the | |\n| | 25· ·other properties Mr. Kwok considered purchasing | |\n\n| ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY | Page 91 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| ·2· ·but did not purchase? | |\n| ·3· · · · ·A.· · No, no. | |\n| ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Great. | |\n| ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Ms. Conboy, one last thing | |\n| ·6· · · · ·of housekeeping we talked about is that as | |\n| ·7· · · · ·we -- I've talked with your counsel, I | |\n| ·8· · · · ·mentioned to you, we're going to work on an | |\n| ·9· · · · ·affidavit or declaration with regard to | |\n| 10· · · · ·authentication and business record just so | |\n| 11· · · · ·we could save your time, but subject to | |\n| 12· · · · ·getting that wrapped up and getting a | |\n| 13· · · · ·declaration put in, I have no further | |\n| 14· · · · ·questions for you at this time. | |\n| 15· · · · · · · ·Thank you very much. | |\n| 16· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Thank you.· Thank you. | |\n| 17· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Did you have anything, | |\n| 18· · · · ·Mr. Thomason? | |\n| 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· No. | |\n| 20· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Okay.· Are we all set | |\n| 21· · · · ·to go off the record, Counsel? | |\n| 22· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· We are. | |\n| 23· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· This concludes today's | |\n| 24· · · · ·testimony of Margaret E. Conboy.· We're | |\n| 25· · · · ·going off the record at 12:41 p.m.· This | |\n\n| ·1 | | Page 92 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · ·also concludes Media 2. | |\n| | ·3· · · · · · · ·(Whereupon the proceedings were | |\n| | ·4· · · · ·concluded at 12:41 p.m.) | |\n| | ·5· · · · · · · · · · · · · oOo | |\n| | ·6· · · · · · · ·I, MARGARET E. CONBOY, the witness | |\n| | ·7· · · · ·herein, do hereby certify that the foregoing | |\n| | ·8· · · · ·testimony of the pages of this deposition to | |\n| | ·9· · · · ·be a true and correct transcript, subject to | |\n| | 10· · · · ·the corrections, if any, shown on the | |\n| | 11· · · · ·attached page. | |\n| | 12· · · · · · · · · · · · · ·__________________________ | |\n| | 13· · · · · · · · · · · · · ·MARGARET E. CONBOY | |\n| | 14· ·Subscribed and sworn to before me this | |\n| | 15· ·_______day of _______________,_______. | |\n| 16 | | |\n| | 17· ·_____________________________________ | |\n| 18 | | |\n| 19 | | |\n| 20 | | |\n| 21 | | |\n| 22 | | |\n| 23 | | |\n| 24 | | |\n| 25 | | |\n\n·1 ·2· · · · · · · · · · · CERTIFICATE ·3· · · · · · ·I, AMY A. RIVERA, a Certified Shorthand ·4· ·Reporter, Registered Professional Reporter, ·5· ·Certified LiveNote Reporter, and Notary Public of ·6· ·the State of New Jersey, do hereby certify that ·7· ·prior to the commencement of the examination ·8· ·MARGARET E. CONBOY, was duly sworn by me to testify ·9· ·the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the 10· ·truth. 11· · · · · · ·I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that the foregoing is 12· ·a true and accurate transcript of the testimony as 13· ·taken stenographically by and before me at the time, 14· ·place and on the date hereinbefore set forth. 15· · · · · · ·I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am neither a 16· ·relative nor employee nor attorney nor counsel of 17· ·any of the parties to this action, and that I am 18· ·neither a relative nor employee of such attorney or 19· ·counsel, and that I am not financially interested in 20· ·the action. 21 22· · · · · · ·\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_ · · · · · · · ·Amy A. Rivera, CSR, RPR, CLR 23· · · · · · ·Notary Public of the State of New Jersey · · · · · · · ·My commission expires July 29, 2025 24· · · · · · ·License No. XI00939 25· ·Dated:· February 21, 2023\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide· · 877-702-9580\n\n| ·1 | | Page 94 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| | ·2· · · · · · · · · · · · ·INDEX | |\n| | ·3· ·WITNESS· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·PAGE | |\n| | ·4· ·MARGARET E. CONBOY | |\n| | ·5· ·By Mr. Luft· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 6 | |\n| ·6 | | |\n| | ·7· · · · · · · · · · · · EXHIBITS | |\n| | ·8· ·NUMBER· · · · · · · · · ·DESCRIPTION· · · · · PAGE | |\n| | ·9· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 1· Letter dated October· ·19 | |\n| | 10· · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1, 2018, Bates | |\n| | 11· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_001464 | |\n| | 12· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 465 | |\n| | 13· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 2· E-mail dated October· ·21 | |\n| | 14· · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3, 2019, Bates | |\n| | 15· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_10076 | |\n| | 16· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 3· Letter dated August· · 23 | |\n| | 17· · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16, 2019, Bates | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_000035 | |\n| | 19· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 36 | |\n| | 20· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 4· E-mail chain, Bates· · 25 | |\n| | 21· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002235 | |\n| | 22· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 237 | |\n| | 23· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 5· E-mail chain, Bates· · 29 | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_001048 | |\n| | 25· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 54 | |\n| | | |\n\n| ·1 | | | |\n|----|-------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|--|\n| | ·2· · · · · · · · · EXHIBITS (Continued) | | |\n| | | ·3· ·NUMBER· · · · · · · · · ·DESCRIPTION· · · · · PAGE | |\n| | | ·4· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 6· E-mail chain, Bates· · 30 | |\n| | | ·5· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002663 | |\n| | ·6· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 672 | | |\n| | | ·7· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 7· E-mail chain, Bates· · 33 | |\n| | | ·8· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002803 | |\n| | ·9· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 808 | | |\n| | | 10· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 8· E-mail chain, Bates· · 36 | |\n| | | 11· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002172 | |\n| | 12· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 173 | | |\n| | | 13· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 9· E-mail chain, Bates· · 41 | |\n| | | 14· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_003873 | |\n| | 15· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 876 | | |\n| | | 16· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 10 E-mail chain, Bates· · 46 | |\n| | | 17· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_003873 | |\n| | 18· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 876 | | |\n| | | 19· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 11 E-mail chain, Bates· · 50 | |\n| | | 20· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_008335 | |\n| | 21· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 339 | | |\n| | | 22· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 12 E-mail chain, Bates· · 52 | |\n| | | 23· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_008641 | |\n| | 24· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 643 | | |\n| 25 | | | |\n\n| ·1 | | | | |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|\n| | ·2· · · · · · · · · EXHIBITS (Continued) | | | |\n| | ·3· ·NUMBER· · · · · · · · · ·DESCRIPTION· · · · · PAGE | | | |\n| | ·4· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 13 E-mail chain, Bates· · 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CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊）的远程录像证言\n\n2023年2月21日，星期二\n\n记录员：\n\nAmy A. Rivera（艾米·A·里维拉），CSR，RPR，CLR\n\n工作编号 222606\n\n第2页\n\n2023年2月21日\n上午10:13\n\n根据通知，对MARGARET E. CONBOY进行远程录像证言，由新泽西州公证人Amy A. Rivera（艾米·A·里维拉）、认证速记记录员、注册专业记录员、认证LiveNote记录员主持。\n\n第3页\n\n远程出庭人员：\n\nPaul Hastings（普衡律师事务所）\n\n受托人代理律师\n200 Park Avenue\nNew York, NY 10166\n代理律师：Avram Luft（阿夫拉姆·卢夫特），Esq.\nDouglass Barron（道格拉斯·巴伦），Esq.\n\nWhitman Breed Abbott & Morgan（惠特曼·布里德·阿博特及摩根律师事务所）\n\n证人代理律师\n500 West Putnam Avenue\nGreenwich, CT 06830\n代理律师：Michael Thomason（迈克尔·托马森），Esq.\n\n另行出席：\n\nJonathan Popham（乔纳森·波帕姆），录像员\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第4页\n\n录像员：早上好，各位律师。\n\n我叫Jonathan Popham。我是与TSG Reporting, Incorporated（TSG记录公司）合作的法律录像员。\n\n由于这是一次远程证言，我不会与证人处于同一房间。相反，我将远程录制本次录像证言。\n\n法庭记录员Amy Rivera也不会与证人处于同一房间，并将远程为证人宣誓。\n\n各方是否约定，本录像记录及远程宣誓有效，并可在法庭中作为证据采纳，如同其系依照《联邦民事诉讼规则》第30条及本案待决州的规则进行？\n\n卢夫特先生：我是代表Chapter 11受托人的Avi Luft。\n\n我们同意。\n\n托马森先生：我是代表证人的Michael Thomason。\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第5页\n\n当然。\n\n录像员：好的。这是关于Ho Wan Kwok一案中Margaret E. Conboy录像证言的第1号媒介开始。本案在康涅狄格联邦地区美国破产法院审理，Chapter 11 Case No. 22-50073 (JAM)。\n\n本次证言于2023年2月21日东部时间约上午10:13，通过视频会议在多个地点进行。\n\n请各位律师为记录作自我介绍。\n\n卢夫特先生：当然。我叫Avi Luft，来自Paul Hastings律师事务所。我在康涅狄格联邦地区破产法院审理的Ho Wan Kwok Chapter 11破产案中代表Chapter 11受托人。\n\n托马森先生：我叫Michael Thomason，坐在证人左侧，来自Whitman Breed Abbott & Morgan。\n\n我们两人均来自Whitman Breed Abbott & Morgan，我在此代表Conboy女士。\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第6页\n\nMorgan，我在此代表Conboy女士。\n\n录像员：好的。请法庭记录员为证人宣誓。\n\nM A R G A R E T E. C O N B O Y经公证人正式宣誓后，作证如下：\n\n证人：谢谢。\n\n询问\n\n由卢夫特先生进行：\n\n问：早上好，Conboy女士。您好吗？\n\n答：很好。您好吗？\n\n问：我很好。感谢您今天上午抽出时间。我很感激。\n\n答：谢谢。\n\n问：Conboy女士，正如我刚才所说，我叫Avi Luft。我是Paul Hastings的律师，我在Ho Wan Kwok破产案中代表Chapter 11受托人Luc Despins（吕克·德斯平斯）。\n\n让我——我只是想先说明几项初步事项，我使用了“Ho Wan Kwok”这个名字。他也是一名以“Miles Kwok”和“Miles Guo”闻名的个人。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第8页，共\n\nYVer1f\n\n您熟悉此人吗？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY\n\n答：我熟悉他。\n\n问：您以什么名字称呼他？\n\n答：Miles Kwok。\n\n问：好的。如果我在整个证言过程中称他为“Miles Kwok”、“Kwok先生”或“债务人”，我们是否可理解为所指的是同一人？\n\n答：是的，没错。\n\n问：很好。好的。\n\nConboy女士，据我了解，您今天作为贵律师事务所Whitman Breed最了解情况的人出席？\n\n答：是的。我是交易完成律师，所以……\n\n问：很好。\n\nConboy女士，您以前接受过证言吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。因此，尽管您是一名律师，而且可能比大多数人更熟悉此事，我还是简要说明一些初步事项，以便我们都达成共识。\n\n基本情况是：我会向您提问，然后您回答。可以吗？\n\nYVer1f\n\n答：可以。\n\n问：我会尽量使我的问题尽可能清楚，但如果因任何原因我的问题对您而言不清楚，您会告诉我吗？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY\n\n答：会。\n\n问：好的。如果您未澄清该问题不清楚，我们是否可理解为您确实理解我的问题？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：好的。您明白您今天是在宣誓后作证吗？\n\n答：是的，我明白。\n\n问：好的。是否有任何理由使您今天不能提供真实证言？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：很好。\n\n有时，您的律师可能会以问题形式为由对我提出的问题提出异议，这是他的权利，也没有问题。\n\n在他提出异议后，如您能够，您应继续回答我的问题。可以吗？\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第10页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第9页\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：如果涉及特权问题，或您对此有所担忧，您应告知我，并且您可以与您的律师商议。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：如果您在证言过程中需要休息——由于这可能需要一段时间，我会定期休息——但如果您因某种原因觉得需要休息，您会告诉我吗？\n\n答：当然。\n\n问：届时，鉴于提问情况，我会尽力在合理可行的情况下尽快安排休息。可以吗？\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：我唯一的要求是，如果有一个问题尚未回答，我们应确保在休息前得到该问题的答案。可以吗？\n\n答：可以，没问题。\n\n问：还有一项事务性事项，尽管我们在Zoom上，我能看到您，法庭记录员也能看到您，但法庭记录员只能记录可听到的回答。\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第11页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY\n\n因此，即使她能够看到，摇头或点头也无法使她根据该动作记录“是”或“否”。所以我只要求您的所有回答都应可听到。可以吗？\n\n答：是的，没错。\n\n问：好的。在我们开始提问前，您有什么问题吗？\n\n答：我想没有。\n\n问：好的。很好。\n\n在整个证言过程中，我将——我将向您出示一些文件。我已就此与您的律师稍作沟通。我们已根据已提供的材料，尽力确定一份文件从何处开始、于何处结束。\n\n如果由于您对文件的熟悉程度，您查看某项材料后说，嘿，这并不完全正确，或者这里多了一页或诸如此类的情况，您会告诉我吗？\n\n答：会，会的。\n\n问：好的。很好。\n\n托马森先生：Avi，我们能否澄清一件事？关于特权，我们理解受托人是此处特权的持有人，并且已放弃该特权。对吗？\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第11页\n\n特权，我们理解受托人是此处特权的持有人，并且已放弃该特权。对吗？\n\n卢夫特先生：受托人并未放弃该特权。但受托人持有Kwok先生的特权。\n\n托马森先生：好的。\n\n卢夫特先生：因此，为明确起见，任何曾由债务人持有的特权，除非涉及其人身安全的问题——我无法想象这会出现在房地产交易中——该特权现由债务人控制。\n\n我作出该区分，而非称其为由受托人放弃的原因是。谢谢。\n\n我的同事Doug Barron在场。\n\n我作出该区分的原因是，其他人不得侵犯该特权，正如他们先前不得侵犯一样；但在Conboy女士与受托人之间，此时存在相同的特权关系，他们可以共享\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第13页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第12页\n\n此前存在于Conboy女士或贵所与其客户Kwok先生之间的信息。\n\n托马森先生：好的。谢谢。\n\n卢夫特先生：好的。\n\n由卢夫特先生进行：\n\n问：好的。Conboy女士，在本次证言之前，我向您的律师发送了一份我们希望今天涵盖的主题清单。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：您是否为本次证言作了准备，以准备——就那些主题作答？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。您是否总体上作了准备，以熟悉您为代表Kwok先生所做的工作？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。您为本次证言做了什么准备？\n\n答：我只是与Thomason先生见了面，他告诉我证言如何进行，并且只是解释了流程；我们见面大约一小时，只是——了解该流程。\n\n问：好的。明白。那么我们为何不——\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第14页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第13页\n\n开始提问，看看您还记得什么；如果有您未能复习的某个话题，我们可以再回头讨论。\n\n问：您第一次听说Kwok先生（郭文贵）是在什么时候？\n\n答：我不记得是哪一年了，但我接到纽约一家律所Hodgson Russ（霍奇森·拉斯律师事务所）的电话，他们请我担任这个家族的康涅狄格州律师，您知道，就是Golden Spring（戈尔登斯普林）、Greenwich（格林尼治）的土地，并担任他们房地产购买事宜的康涅狄格州律师。\n\n问：您记得是Hodgson Russ的谁联系您的吗？\n\n答：我想是Bill、Elissa Brinn（埃莉萨·布林）和Valerie——我现在不记得Valerie的姓氏。Valerie是那里的合伙人，我相信是他们两人。\n\n问：他们向您介绍了有关Kwok先生的什么情况？\n\n答：他们只是说，他们代表这个——这个家族，他们非常有兴趣在Greenwich购买房产和一栋房屋，而且，您知道，那是——那是保密的。他们不希望姓名公开，这并不罕见。我经常遇到不希望公开姓名的客户，因此他们会以其LLCs（有限责任公司）的名义持有房产。\n\n基本上就是这些。\n\n问：您还被告知有关Kwok先生的其他情况吗？\n\n答：据我记得，没有。\n\n问：好的。\n\n在您被告知这个家族的情况时，是否获得了关于家族成员的更多详情？\n\n答：没有，没有。\n\n问：他们当时是否已经希望购买某一特定房屋，还是这是为代表Kwok先生处理房地产事务而作出的一般性委托？\n\n答：他们已经在看房，我相信正在提出要约——也许他们已经——我记不清了——他们可能已经就某处房产签订了合同，我忘了是哪处房产，Clapboard Ridge（克拉普博德岭），其中一处，Elissa一直在处理此事，后来他们认为最好聘请康涅狄格州律师，所以我就参与进来了。\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第15页\n\n问：您能否介绍一下委托范围？\n\n因为据我了解，您最终处理的不只是一处房产，而是随着时间推移，多次代表Kwok先生。\n\n答：嗯，是代表这些LLCs。我从未与Kwok先生交谈过。我一直是与他的律师——家族律师交谈。\n\n因此，他——他确实对几处房产提出过要约，后来因这样或那样的原因未能成交。他没有继续进行，或者家族没有继续进行。\n\n我最终与他完成交易的房产位于Ferncliff（芬克利夫）。我曾代表他处理的其他房产都未成交，大概有三四处。\n\n问：您说您只与家族律师交谈。\n\n您记得这位家族律师的名字吗？\n\n答：Max Krasner（马克斯·克拉斯纳）。\n\n问：Krasner先生是否向您表示他是一名律师？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您是否曾与一名叫Yvette Wang（王伊薇特）的女士交谈？\n\n答：我不记得。我不记得这个名字。\n\n问：您是否理解Krasner先生是代表Kwok先生行事？\n\n答：是，也代表该家族。\n\n问：您所说的“家族”，您是否曾与该家族中的其他任何人交谈过？\n\n答：没有，没有。\n\n问：Krasner先生是否曾告诉您，他是在听从Kwok先生以外的任何人的指示？\n\n答：没有，他从未告诉我他是在听从谁的指示。\n\n问：我在文件中、在您的电子邮件中看到多次提到“中国亿万富翁”。\n\nKwok先生就是那位中国亿万富翁吗？\n\n答：我只是在进行Google搜索时看到这个说法。所以我其实不知道，只是如果您搜索他的名字，出现的就是这个说法。所以我——\n\n问：我的问题是——抱歉。\n\n我的问题不是Kwok先生是否是一位中国亿万富翁，而是您写到——提及“中国亿万富翁”时，您指的是Kwok先生吗？\n\n答：是，仅仅是因为Google搜索结果。\n\n问：对。好的。\n\n您的任何同事是否曾与您共同处理这件事？\n\n答：我不——可能有一名初级律师帮过忙，但我只记得有这个——当然还有我的律师助理。\n\n问：您代表Kwok先生与Krasner先生交谈时，是通过电子邮件吗？\n\nTHOMASON先生：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n您可以回答。\n\n答：既通过电子邮件，也通过电话。\n\n问：好的。您会说您与Krasner先生交谈过多少次？\n\nTHOMASON先生：通过电子邮件还是电话？\n\n问：两者均可。\n\n答：您知道，在我们处理一项交易期间，也许每天几次。\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第18页\n\n问：您是否曾前往查看Kwok先生考虑购买的任何房产？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：您知道Kwok先生就其所看的房产与哪些经纪人合作吗？\n\n答：我记不起来。我记得最后一位，但我不记得他合作过的所有——其他经纪人。\n\n问：最后一位是谁？\n\n答：Martha Jeffreys（玛莎·杰弗里斯）。\n\n问：是否就是由这些经纪人带Kwok先生去看房产？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。您是否曾与Kwok先生的儿子交谈？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：那他的妻子呢？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：或者他的女儿？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。您是否曾与任何代表该家族的人交谈，而该人告诉您指示来自其儿子、妻子或女儿中的任何一人？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：当您——\n\nLUFT先生：我想将您活页夹中标签1的文件标记为Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德）证言证物1。其贝茨编号为WBAM_001464至65。\n\n（Whitman Breed证物1，即日期为October 1, 2018、贝茨编号为WBAM_001464至465的信函，此时已标记供识别。）\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：您有空时，请看一下，并在您准备好后告诉我。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：这是什么文件？\n\n答：这是我们的委托函。这是第一份委托函。我们是通过Hodgson Russ取得该委托的。\n\n问：因此，在这封信中，客户是Hodgson Russ，代表——让我简单一点：Hodgson Russ在这里是名义上的客户吗？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第20页\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。购买将由一家名为“Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石）”的实体进行？\n\n答：我相信是——哦，是的，上面写着——是的，上面写着：“Hudson Diamond。”\n\n问：但是，这——这是否就是同一项委托，当时您被告知您代表Kwok先生及其家族的利益，对吗？\n\n这是110 Clapboard Road——Clapboard Ridge？\n\n答：是。\n\nLUFT先生：好的。您可以把它放在一边。\n\n问：让我问您几个人。您是否曾与一名叫Daniel Podhaskie（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基）的人交谈？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：一名叫Melissa Francis（梅利莎·弗朗西斯）的女士呢？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Aaron Mitchell（亚伦·米切尔）呢？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。很好。\n\n好的。我们能否转到——我请您翻到标签3，这是一封日期为October 3, 2019、由您发给Kevin Walsh（凯文·沃尔什）的电子邮件，贝茨编号为WBAM_10076。\n\n您找到后告诉我。\n\nTHOMASON先生：您要将此标记为证物2吗？\n\nLUFT先生：是的，请标记为Whitman Breed证物2。\n\n（Whitman Breed证物2，即日期为October 3, 2019、贝茨编号为WBAM_10076的电子邮件，此时已标记供识别。）\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：好的。开头是——这是您发给Kevin Walsh的电子邮件，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您开头写道：“Kevin，我的客户，那位中国亿万富翁。”\n\n这是否指您的客户是Kwok先生？\n\n答：是。我的意思是，我本应——这——是。我本应——\n\n问：然后您接着写。您说（照读）：卖方接受了他$35 million的要约。此外，他正在与建筑师会面。他对在该地块上建设所涉事项有所了解。\n\n其中的“他”和“他的”指的是Kwok先生，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Kwok先生是否曾告诉您，他用于为602 Indian Field提出要约的$35 million的来源是什么？\n\n答：没有。这一切都是通过Max进行的。我从未与Kwok先生交谈过。一切都是通过Max进行的。\n\n问：Krasner先生——我假定您所说的“Max”是指Max Krasner？\n\n答：对，Krasner先生。\n\n问：好的。\n\nKrasner先生是否曾告诉您，此次要约中$35 million的来源是什么？\n\n答：没有，没有。\n\n问：他是否曾——是否曾被要求向卖方提供任何，姑且这么说，证明或依据，以表明他具备提出$35 million要约的财力？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第23页\n\n答：我不知道。我不知道。\n\n问：好的。那是否更多是经纪人的职责，而不是——\n\n答：是。\n\n问：——您在该流程中的职责？\n\n答：对，是。\n\n问：好的。但这从未进入合同阶段，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。好的。很好。\n\nLUFT 律师：请您看一下标签页 2。我将标记为 Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德律师事务所）证据 3；该文件的 Bates 编号为 WBAM_000035 至 36，据我看来，这是一封日期为 August 16, 2019 的约聘函，由 Whitman Breed、您本人签署，随后由 Max Krasner（马克斯·克拉斯纳）代表 Golden Spring（金泉）签署。\n\n（Whitman Breed 证据 3，日期为 August 16, 2019 的信函，Bates 编号为 WBAM_000035 至 36，此时标记供识别。）\n\nLUFT 律师询问：\n\n问：这看起来正确吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。这与购买位于 33 Ferncliff Road 的一处房产有关？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：而且，在此，您理解 Krasner 先生再次代表 Kwok 先生作出这项委托，对吗？\n\n答：嗯，是这个家庭。\n\n问：当您说“这个家庭”时，为了让我理解，鉴于——嗯，我撤回这个问题。\n\n我的理解是，您理解指示来自 Kwok 先生，即由他作出指示。\n\n您从未与该家庭中的任何其他人交谈过，或者从其处收到过指示，对吗？\n\n答：我从未与 Kwok 先生交谈过。我也从未与其他任何人交谈过。不，我只与 Max Krasner 交谈过，而他会说——他用的词是“这个家庭”。\n\n问：但当您在证据 2 中写到，我们看到的那位中国亿万富翁、他的要约以及他正在与建筑师会面时，其中的“他”是指 Kwok 先生，这是您的理解，对吗？\n\n答：对，这是我的理解。\n\n问：而且，您不知道该家庭中的任何其他人曾代表这些房屋与建筑师或工程师会面，对吗？\n\n答：不，我不知道。我不知道。我毫无所知。\n\n问：而且，除 Kwok 先生外，该家庭中没有其他人为该房屋提交过要约，对吗？\n\n答：我不知道。我不知道。\n\n问：好的。\n\n就您为 110 Clap Ridge Road 所做的工作而言，谁支付 Whitman Breed 的律师费？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：那 33 Ferncliff 呢？\n\n答：我不知道。我不知道。\n\nLUFT 律师：好的。您现在可以把它放到一边。\n\n我将请您看一下标签页 9。\n\n我将标记为证据 4，一份 Bates 编号为 WBAM_002235 至 37 的文件。\n\n（Whitman Breed 证据 4，电子邮件链，Bates 编号为 WBAM_002235 至 237，此时标记供识别。）\n\nLUFT 律师询问：\n\n问：您面前有该文件吗？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：所以，这是一组您本人、Valerie Stevens（瓦莱丽·史蒂文斯）、Yvette Wang（王伊薇特）和 Elissa Brinn（埃莉萨·布林）之间的电子邮件。\n\nValerie Stevens 是谁？\n\n答：她是 Hodgson Russ（霍奇森·拉斯律师事务所）的合伙人。\n\n问：Brinn 女士呢？\n\n答：Brinn 女士也是 Hodgson Russ 的一名律师。\n\n问：那么 Yvette Wang 呢？\n\n答：我不记得她了。我确实不记得她。\n\n问：您看到第 236 页中间、日期为 October 11, 2018、12:35 的部分了吗？她向您本人和 Elissa 发送了一封电子邮件，内容如下（照读）：\n\n请仍然按我此前建议的那样，什么也不要做。我已经建议 Kathy 在周一撤回该要约。买方尚未发出任何重新开启的指示。谢谢，Yvette。\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：买方——这里的买方是 Kwok 先生，对吗？\n\n答：我不知道——我的意思是，我不知道。\n\n问：您理解那是指谁——\n\n答：正如我所说，那是 Golden Spring 或 Greenwich Land（格林尼治地产）公司，而买方是该公司。我不确定——我不确定 Yvette Wang 是谁——我就是不记得了。\n\n问：您不记得她的角色是什么？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：不过，您理解 Kwok 先生是该律所的客户，对吗？\n\n答：不。我理解这些公司是该律所的客户。\n\n问：您曾在某一时点与 Despins 先生就利益冲突相关问题进行过交谈？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：而且，在那次交谈中，您告诉他，其中一个问题是 Kwok 先生是该律所的客户？\n\n答：嗯，那我一定是说错了，而且我不记得了，但我确实不记得那件事。\n\n问：好的。您理解谁控制 Golden Spring？\n\n答：正如我所说，我与 Max Krasner 交谈过。他是我的联系人。我不知道。我不知道谁控制 Golden Spring。\n\n问：Krasner 先生是否曾告诉您，他没有律师执业资格？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。\n\n当 Wang 女士提到“买方”时，您并不理解她是在指她自己，对吗？\n\n答：我不知道。我确实不知道。我不知道——我不记得她。\n\n问：好的。\n\nLUFT 律师：我们来看一下——\n\n录像员：请问可以把摄像机再稍微朝证人转一点吗，律师？\n\n谢谢。\n\nLUFT 律师：好的。我们来看一下标签页 13。我们将标记为 Whitman Breed 证据 5，我认为是一份 Bates 编号为 WBAM_001048 至 54 的文件。这是一组电子邮件链，顶部始于 Wang 女士发给 Elissa Brinn、Conboy 女士和 Valerie Stevens 的一封电子邮件，内容涉及与 Brown Harris Stevens（布朗·哈里斯·史蒂文斯）有关的 110 Clipboard 协议。\n\n（Whitman Breed 证据 5，电子邮件链，Bates 编号为 WBAM_001048 至 54，此时标记供识别。）\n\nLUFT 律师询问：\n\n问：您看到顶部那封电子邮件了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：您看到 Wang 女士再次写道（照读）：“该房产的物品清单内容应与 Kathy 第一次向买方展示该房屋时的原始清单完全相同。”\n\n您理解 Kathy 是向作为买方的实际自然人展示该房屋吗？\n\n答：是，向买方展示该房屋。\n\n问：对。而既然 Wang 女士如此提及，她并非指她自己，而是将买方指为另一个人？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这是否有助于唤起您关于 Wang 女士的记忆？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好。好的。我们来看另一处——我认为是另一处房产。\n\n您记得曾于 January 2019 就 140 Wallacks Drive 开展工作吗？\n\n答：是。\n\nLUFT 律师：我将向您出示一份 Bates 编号为——我希望标记为证据 6 的文件，该文件的 Bates 编号为 WBAM_002663 至 72。\n\nTHOMASON 律师：标签页编号？\n\nLUFT 律师：什么？\n\nTHOMASON 律师：哪个标签页编号？\n\nLUFT 律师：是标签页 14。\n\n（Whitman Breed 证据 6，电子邮件链，Bates 编号为 WBAM_002663 至 672，此时标记供识别。）\n\nLUFT 律师询问：\n\n问：我说得对吗，这是一组您本人和 Robert Mowbray（罗伯特·莫布雷）之间、日期为 January 22, 2019 的电子邮件链？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：而他提及的房产是位于 Stamford 的 Caritas Island 的 140 Wallacks Drive？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您看到您的电子邮件了吗？您写道：“嗨，Bob。我希望您进行检索，因为这是一处临水的高端房产——那位中国亿万富翁已有获接受的要约！谢谢。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：所提及的那位中国亿万富翁是 Kwok 先生，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：而那就是您所说的对该房产已有获接受要约的人？\n\n答：但实际上，该要约是以 Golden 或 Golden Spring 或 Greenwich Land 的名义提出的。我不记得他们是以哪一个名义——提出该要约的。\n\n问：无论他们依法以哪个实体名义提出要约，您的理解是 Kwok 先生已有获接受的要约，对吗？\n\n答：从该电子邮件来看，这就是我——对，正确。\n\n问：而且您当时——好的。所以当时，您告诉 Mowbray 先生的是 Kwok 先生已有获接受的要约？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：在与 Kwok 先生合作之前，您是否必须签署任何类型的 NDA 保密协议？\n\n答：我不记得了。我可能签过。我不记得了。\n\n问：Kwok 先生或其关联实体是否曾在任何时候让您签署 NDA 保密协议？\n\n答：我不记得了。\n\n问：您将 Kwok 先生称为“中国亿万富翁”的原因，是因为您试图避免在通信中使用他的姓名吗？\n\n答：对，正确。\n\n问：当您在此写下“中国亿万富翁”时，您所指的人是 Kwok 先生？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。\n\n让我看看。你认识一个名叫 Emile deNeree（埃米尔·德内雷）的人吗？\n\n答：不认识。\n\n问：也许是来自 Caldwell Banker（考德威尔·班克）？\n\n答：我不记得了。\n\n卢夫特先生：我请求将标签18后的文件标记为证物——现在到第7号了吧？——该文件的贝茨编号为 WBAM_002803 至 08。\n\n（Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德）证物7，电子邮件链，贝茨编号为 WBAM_002803 至 808，于此时标记供识别。）\n\n卢夫特先生询问：\n\n问：康博伊女士，您认得这份文件吗？\n\n答：不，我不记得它。\n\n问：您能否查看一下，看看它是否能唤起您的记忆，即这也是一封关于 140 Walkins Drive 的电子邮件？\n\n答：我不记得这封电子邮件。我的意思是，我就是不记得——不过我收到数千封电子邮件。\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第34页\n\n问：明白。\n\n您看到顶部了吗，布林女士写信给您、德内雷先生和您本人，她提到：“Margaret——看来还需要更新化粪池信息”？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：其中的“Margaret”是您吗？\n\n答：是的，是我。\n\n问：那么，这个邮件链是发给您的，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。在这个邮件链中，您看到他们在谈论需要进行的各种检查和尽职调查吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：如果请您翻到第2806页，您是否看到1月25日有一封来自德内雷先生或 Sothebys Homes（苏富比住宅）的 Barbara Vogt（芭芭拉·沃格特）的电子邮件，所以这是两名经纪人之间的邮件，包含在发给您的尽职调查材料中。\n\n其中写道，我的客户准备在2月8日前完成交割。我们已请求给予一周的宽限期，以防他们不能及时完成尽职调查。后面接着说：\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第35页\n\n“您能否请您的客户同意这些条款，因为只要他的律师收到可接受的尽职调查条款，Miles（迈尔斯）今天下午就准备签署合同。”\n\n您看到这段了吗？\n\n答：是的，我看到了。\n\n问：您是否记得您是否曾收到那些尽职调查条款？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：这里的“Miles”是指 Kwok先生（郭文贵），对吗？\n\n答：我没有写这封电子邮件，所以是别人写的。\n\n问：我明白，是别人写的，但您读了它。\n\n您是否理解这项交易中涉及的“Miles”是 Kwok先生？\n\n托马森先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n您可以回答。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。\n\n卢夫特先生：您可以把那份文件放在一边。\n\n问：Kwok先生后来是否有意可能购买位于 32 Chateau Ridge（沙托岭）的房产？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第36页\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您记得关于该房产和那次拟议购买的什么情况？\n\n答：我记得他提出了要约。该要约被接受了。我们进行了正常的尽职调查，而他——他从未签署合同。我们正在办理合同，而他从未签署合同——嗯，不是他，而是该 LLC 从未签署合同，所以没有任何结果——该房产从未被购买。\n\n卢夫特先生：我将请求——我将标记为——拟作为 Whitman Breed 证物8，标签6后的文件，WBAM_002172 至 2173，看来是一组日期为 October 1, 2018 的电子邮件链，涉及 Muffin Dowdle（玛芬·道德尔）、Elissa Brinn（伊丽莎·布林）、您本人以及 Kathy Sloane（凯西·斯隆）。\n\n（Whitman Breed 证物8，电子邮件链，贝茨编号为 WBAM_002172 至 173，于此时标记供识别。）\n\n卢夫特先生询问：\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第37页\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您看到您在所有这些电子邮件中吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：而这是与——抱歉。\n\n这是与 110 Clapboard Ridge（克拉普博德岭）有关的？\n\n答：顶部是这么写的。\n\n问：是的。让我看看。\n\n但是，如果我们看中间那封电子邮件，斯隆女士说（照读）：关于 Chateau Ridge，合同今早正以原要约价格发出。家具今天正从房屋中搬出。该房屋将进行布置。我建议 Miles 在布置完成后再次看房。\n\n您看到这段了吗？\n\n托马森先生：异议。\n\n答：是，我看到了。\n\n问：好的。所以，尽管提到了 Clapboard Ridge，但是——还有——这些电子邮件也在讨论 Chateau Ridge 房产，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 39 of 99\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第38页\n\n问：而且那是两处不同的房产？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您记得斯隆女士是 Brown Harris Stevens（布朗·哈里斯·史蒂文斯）的经纪人吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：她写信给您、道德尔女士和布林女士，建议 Miles 在布置完成后再次看房，对吗？\n\n答：她在电子邮件里就是这么写的。\n\n问：而那里所指的“Miles”是 Kwok先生，对吗？\n\n答：我认为——我的意思是，我再次说明，我没有写这封电子邮件，但我认为应该是他。\n\n问：您知道还有任何其他参与 Chateau Ridge 房产相关事宜的 Miles 吗？\n\n答：不知道。\n\n问：所以可以说，您读到该内容时，您理解“Miles”是 Kwok先生，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您必须出声回答。\n\n她写道（照读）：让 Miles\n\nTSG Reporting（TSG记录服务）—全球 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第39页\n\n在布置完成后再次看房。\n\n这是否使您认为 Kwok先生在此之前已经看过一次这所房子？\n\n答：我不知道。我没有——我不参与交易的那部分。我完全不知道。\n\n问：但是，当您读到抄送给您的电子邮件，其中写道：“我建议 Miles 在布置完成后再次看房”，那是否——是否使您认为 Kwok先生在此之前已经看过一次这所房子？\n\n答：我不知道。我没有参与那件事。我不会和他们一起去经纪人那里看房。我不知道他何时看过，如果他看过，我不知道。\n\n问：我只是问您读到那封电子邮件时的理解。\n\n答：我的意思是，从她的电子邮件来看，听起来他一定看过，但我完全不知道。\n\n问：好的。\n\n康博伊女士，您理解所有带有“WBAM”贝茨编号的文件均来自 Whitman Breed 的档案，对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 41 of 99\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第40页\n\n答：我想是的，是的。是。\n\n问：而那些是您保存的——该律所按其日常业务过程保存的档案？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：而且它们是作为该律所作为律师事务所开展的日常业务的一部分而制作的，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。您记得一名叫 Louise Camuto（路易丝·卡穆托）的女士是 Chateau Ridge 房产的所有人吗？\n\n答：我不知道她是否是实际所有人。\n\n问：好的。您理解卡穆托女士的身份是什么？\n\n答：我不记得产权是如何持有的，但我认为她不是以个人名义拥有该房产。我不确切记得产权是如何持有的，但我认为她不是以个人名义拥有该房产。\n\n问：好的。您记得她正在与 Kwok先生及其代表就出售该房产进行谈判吗？\n\n答：我不知道她是否在谈判。我唯一\n\nTSG Reporting — 全球 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 42 of 99\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第41页\n\n与之谈判的人是另一名律师。我不知道其他任何人与谁谈判。\n\n问：您知道 Karin Maistrello（卡琳·迈斯特雷洛）是谁吗？\n\n答：不知道。\n\n卢夫特先生：我们现在到第几份文件了？刚才是第7份——\n\n托马森先生：您现在是第9份。\n\n卢夫特先生：第9份？\n\n托马森先生：您正要将其命名为第9份。\n\n卢夫特先生：太好了。让我们将标签20后的文件标记为 Whitman Breed 证物9，这是一组电子邮件链，贝茨编号为 WBAM_003873 至 76。看来是一组包括 Krasner先生（克拉斯纳先生）、卡穆托女士、Wang女士（王女士）、迈斯特雷洛女士和道德尔女士在内的电子邮件链。\n\n（Whitman Breed 证物9，电子邮件链，贝茨编号为 WBAM_003873 至 876，于此时标记供识别。）\n\n卢夫特先生询问：\n\n问：康博伊女士，您看到这份文件带有“WBAM”贝茨编号吗？\n\nTSG Reporting — 全球 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第42页\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这是否向您表明该文件来自 Whitman Breed 的档案？\n\n答：我——一定是。我想是的。我不记得看过这份文件。我不在——我不在顶部的电子邮件链中。我的意思是，我不在这封电子邮件中。\n\n问：客户通过电子邮件进行谈判时，是否有时会为了让律师为他们开展工作而向律师提供那些电子邮件？\n\n答：我不明白您的问题是什么。\n\n问：我的问题是：当客户与潜在买方或经纪人进行沟通时，他们是否有时向您提供这些沟通记录，以证明他们进行的谈判，从而使您能够代表他们开展工作？\n\n答：有时会，有时会。\n\n问：您能否翻到页码以 3875 结尾的那一页。\n\n您看到有一封卡穆托女士发给 Mary Muffin Dowdle（玛丽·玛芬·道德尔）的电子邮件吗？\n\n您认识道德尔女士吗？\n\n答：不认识。她是一名经纪人，但我不认识\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第43页\n\n她。她是一名经纪人。\n\n问：你是否理解她是与Kwok先生（郭文贵）合作的经纪人？\n\n答：一开始是的。在交易刚开始的时候。\n\n问：你看到Camuto女士（卡穆托女士）在向Dowdle女士（道德尔女士）发送电子邮件时，实际上是写给Kwok先生的，称呼为“亲爱的Miles（迈尔斯）”。\n\n她写道：“感谢你回复我。我期待完成交易，并让你搬进这个我们非常喜爱、而且你似乎与我们同样喜爱的绝佳住所。”\n\n你看到这段了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：然后他们接着——Camuto女士接着就Kwok先生要求保留的某些家具，向Kwok先生写了一则消息，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：你是否记得，这些通信是否转发给了你，以便你知道哪些家具应纳入合同协议，哪些应当排除在外？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第44页\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：我们往上看一点。你看到在第3874页的回复中，Wang女士（王女士）给Camuto先生（卡穆托先生）回信说：“感谢你回复Miles。请原谅他，因为他的英语口语比书面英语好。”\n\n你看到这段了吗？\n\n答：是的，是的。\n\n问：你看到她提到Miles说，他对这座美妙住宅的喜爱与您完全相同，并且他希望将来回来，与他分享关于这个地方的美好故事。\n\n答：对，是的。\n\n问：接着又说：“Miles说他感谢您同意留下这些瓮。他确实非常喜爱它们。”然后又说明了Kwok先生希望如何处理蓝色椅子，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：最后写道：“我代表Miles，再次感谢您将这座美丽的住宅交给他。祝一切顺利。”\n\n答：对。\n\n问：关于如何为Kwok先生处理这些瓮以及如何处理椅子的这些信息，都是作为律师的你会在协议中编入条款的信息，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：很明确，Wang女士是在代表Kwok先生发言，对吗？\n\n答：再次说明，你是在问我一封并非我撰写的电子邮件。\n\n他们说，家族办公室，你知道，我没有——我没有获得——我唯一会参与的方式，是起草含有关于瓮和任何个人财产条款的合同。\n\n问：但这里非常明确，对吗，这说的是Miles？Miles是被具体提及的人，对吗？\n\n答：是的，提到了Miles。\n\n问：而且Miles是就这些瓮作出决定的人？\n\n答：我不知道。我完全不知道。\n\n问：（宣读）Miles说他感谢您同意留下这些瓮。他确实非常喜爱它们。\n\n案号 22-50073，文书 1805-48，于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第47页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第46页\n\n非常喜爱。在同样的合作精神下，他希望您保留那套四把蓝色椅子。\n\n你同意我的看法，即是Kwok先生在就哪些财产应纳入合同作出指示，对吗？\n\n答：电子邮件是这样写的，是的。\n\nLUFT先生（卢夫特先生）：好的。你可以把那个放到一边。\n\n标记为证物——Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德）证物10，即标签22之后的一份文件，Bates编号为WBAM_003873至76，这同样是Camuto先生、Wang女士、Krasner先生（克拉斯纳先生）和Maistrello女士（迈斯特雷洛女士）之间的另一组电子邮件链。\n\n（Whitman Breed证物10，电子邮件链，Bates编号为WBAM_003873至876，此时标记供识别。）\n\n由LUFT先生询问：\n\n问：你是否再次看到，这是一份带有“WBAM”Bates编号的文件？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：而这向你表明，这是一份来自Whitman Breed档案的文件，对吗？\n\nTSG Reporting（TSG记录服务）－全球服务 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第47页\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：因此，这是一份与你的律师事务所就该房产提供代理服务有关而获得的文件，对吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：你是否看到，Camuto女士再次在多处写信给Wang女士，明确提到——指称Kwok先生：“我很高兴Miles会享用这些极其珍稀且有价值的精美瓮，如你所知。它们令房间增色。”\n\n“感谢他送的椅子，我会把三楼的柜子留给Miles。”接着写道：“谢谢你——也谢谢Miles，请保持沟通畅通。我很乐意有一天在他安顿好后去拜访他。”\n\n很明确，Camuto女士是在将Kwok先生称为正在购置该住宅的人，对吗？\n\n答：她的电子邮件是这样写的，是的。\n\n问：好的。\n\n案号 22-50073，文书 1805-48，于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第49页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第48页\n\nLUFT先生：你可以把那个放到一边。\n\n问：你是否记得，就Chateau Ridge（沙托岭）房产而言，是否曾有任何通信涉及Kwok先生家中的其他人就其购买进行谈判或发挥任何作用？\n\n答：我不记得。我认为唯一——再次说明，我打交道的唯一一个人是Max Krasner（马克斯·克拉斯纳）。\n\n问：好的。\n\nLUFT先生：我们已经进行了大约一小时。你想短暂休息一下吗？\n\nTHOMASON先生（托马森先生）：好的，请。\n\n证人：当然。\n\nLUFT先生：很好。你想休息多久？\n\nTHOMASON先生：十分钟？\n\nLUFT先生：很好。\n\nTHOMASON先生：十分钟是我的最低限度，但如果你想更长一些也可以。\n\nLUFT先生：十分钟对我来说可以。\n\nTHOMASON先生：好的。\n\n录像员：我们于上午11:10停止记录。这标志着Media 1结束。\n\nTSG Reporting（TSG记录服务）－全球服务 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第49页\n\nMedia 1。\n\n（休庭。）\n\n录像员：我们于上午11:30恢复记录。这标志着Media 2开始。\n\n由LUFT先生询问：\n\n问：你好，Conboy女士（康博伊女士）。你好吗？\n\n答：很好。你好吗？\n\n问：很好。\n\n我想转到另一处房产。你是否记得，Kwok先生也曾有意在2019年7月或8月购买位于66 Sherwood的房产？\n\n答：记得。\n\n问：你记得有关那项可能购买的什么情况？\n\n答：我认为进展得并不远。我甚至认为我们没有拿到合同。\n\n所以这就是我所记得的全部。我认为根本没有进展多远。\n\n问：你是否记得Kwok先生何时决定不购买该房产？\n\n答：我记得Max通知我他们不会购买，但仅此而已。\n\n案号 22-50073，文书 1805-48，于05/18/23提交，于05/18/23 23:05:44录入，第51页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第50页\n\n问：好的。而且从未进入合同阶段，对吗？\n\n答：我不这么认为。\n\n问：好的。好的。我们可以转到另一处房产。\n\n我知道我们先前谈过Indian Field（印第安菲尔德）房产？\n\n答：对，对。\n\n问：好的。你是否还记得任何关于为何——实际上，请删除这个问题。\n\n好的。据我所知，他们看的下一处房产是——或者也许并非按顺序——你是否记得一处位于11 Hurlingham Drive的房产，该房产在2020年12月被考察过？\n\n答：不，我不记得那处房产。\n\n问：好的。请你翻到标签59。\n\nLUFT先生：我们到11了吗？\n\nTHOMASON先生：我想是的。\n\nLUFT先生：好的。让我们标记为标签11，一份Bates编号为WBAM_008335至339的文件。\n\n（Whitman Breed证物11，电子邮件链，Bates编号为WBAM_008335至339，此时标记供识别。）\n\nTSG Reporting（TSG记录服务）－全球服务 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第51页\n\n由LUFT先生询问：\n\n问：我相信这是一组Krasner先生、Frank Dong先生（弗兰克·董先生）和你之间的电子邮件链。\n\n你看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：你是否看到Krasner先生于2020年12月15日上午10:25写道：“你好，Frank和Margaret。我刚和Miles谈过，他告知团队不会继续推进这处房产。谢谢。”\n\n答：对。\n\n问：这是否唤起了你关于Krasner先生告知你和Dong先生Kwok先生不想购买11 Hurlingham Drive房产的记忆？\n\n答：我不记得这件事，但根据该电子邮件，其中说Miles告知团队他们不会继续推进。\n\n问：而Kwok先生在此可能用来进行这项购买的载体是——\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第52页\n\n似乎是Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石），对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：而那是Kwok先生会用来考虑购买房地产的空壳公司之一，对吗？\n\nTHOMASON先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：那是他们用来购买房产的另一家有限责任公司。\n\n问：对。而这里是Kwok先生，对吗，Krasner先生与之交谈的是他？\n\n答：嗯，那就是——是的，那就是Krasner先生在其电子邮件中说告知他不要继续推进的人。\n\n问：好的。\n\nLUFT先生：让我们标记——翻到标签57，并标记为Whitman Breed证物12，文件Bates编号为WBAM_008641至43，我相信你会告诉我，这是一组12月14日的、即前一天的、你与Frank Dong先生之间关于由Hudson Diamond购买11 Hurlingham的电子邮件链。\n\n（Whitman Breed证物12，电子邮件链，Bates编号为WBAM_008641至843，此时标记供识别。）\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第53页\n\n·2· · · · ·编号为 WBAM_006643 的文件，此时被标记为供识别。）\n\n·4· · ·由卢夫特先生（Mr. Luft）发问：\n\n·5· · · · ·问：您看到了吗？\n\n·6· · · · ·答：看到了。\n\n·7· · · · ·问：您记得董先生（Mr. Dong）吗？\n\n·8· · · · ·答：我不记得董先生。\n\n·9· · · · ·问：如果您看一下他在这串电子邮件中发送给您的第一封电子邮件，即 8642 上的那封，\n\n10· ·董先生写信给您并称（宣读如下）：嗨，\n\n12· ·玛格丽特。很高兴通过电子邮件认识您。我是该交易的买方\n\n13· ·代理人。他接着称（宣读如下）：老板亲自来看过这栋房子。\n\n15· ·卖方花费 11 million 对该房产进行了翻修，\n\n16· ·但已经搬到 Florida。老板愿意\n\n17· ·自行完成房屋装修。\n\n18· · · · · · · ·当董先生提及“老板”时，您是否理解其\n\n19· ·是在指郭先生（Mr. Kwok）？\n\n21· · · · ·答：我不记得这件事，也\n\n22· ·不知道。我不记得这件事。我不记得\n\n23· ·董先生。我不知道。\n\n24· · · · ·问：但这是您——您毫无疑问收到了这封来自\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 55 of 99\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊（MARGARET E. CONBOY） 第 54 页\n\n·2· ·董先生的电子邮件，对吗？\n\n·3· · · · ·答：是的，对，正确。\n\n·4· · · · ·问：而且，除郭先生外，您不知道还有其他任何人就该房产作出决定，对吗？\n\n·7· · · · ·答：您知道，我不知道还有谁\n\n8· ·参与其中。我的意思是，我不知道还有谁在\n\n9· ·家庭中作决定，所以，我不知道。\n\n10· · · · ·问：您是否知道——或者是否曾有人告诉您，除\n\n13· ·郭先生外，家庭中还有任何人就这些房产作出决定？\n\n14· · · · ·答：从未有人告诉我——从未有人告诉我\n\n15· ·是谁作出了任何决定。\n\n16· · · · ·问：那么，如果我们回看证物 11——\n\n17· · · · ·答：对，在他们的电子邮件中。\n\n18· · · · ·问：在他们的电子邮件中，您被告知\n\n19· ·郭先生是作出决定的人，对吗？\n\n21· · · · ·答：对。\n\n22· · · · ·问：好的。克拉斯纳先生（Mr. Krasner）确实告诉您，\n\n23· ·郭先生建议团队不要继续推进。\n\n24· · · · · · · ·我想明确一点，克拉斯纳先生从未告诉您，郭先生家庭中的任何其他成员\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 56 of 99\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊 第 55 页\n\n·2· ·曾就购买或不购买任何房产作出决定，\n\n4· ·对吗？\n\n·5· · · · ·答：正确，他从未告诉我是谁作出了\n\n6· ·决定。\n\n·7· · · · ·问：除他告诉您郭先生正在作出决定之外？\n\n·9· · · · ·答：除那封电子邮件之外，据我\n\n10· ·记得，是的。\n\n11· · · · ·问：我们还看到了其他电子邮件，其中\n\n12· ·郭先生——郭先生被提及正在谈判\n\n13· ·并作出决定，对吗？\n\n14· · · · ·答：正确。\n\n15· · · · ·问：那么，为明确起见，您曾不时被告知\n\n16· ·郭先生正在就房产作出决定，对吗？\n\n18· · · · ·答：正确。\n\n19· · · · ·问：而且，您从未被告知郭先生家庭中的任何\n\n21· ·其他成员正在就房产作出决定，对吗？\n\n22· · · · ·答：我不记得。\n\n23· · · · ·问：您是否记得，家庭中除郭先生外，曾有任何人就某项房产作出决定？\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 57 of 99\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊\n\n·2· · · · ·答：我不记得。\n\n·3· · · · ·问：您认为曾有人告诉过您那件事吗？\n\n·5· · · · ·答：我不知道。我确实不记得\n\n6· ·是否还有其他人——我不知道。\n\n·7· · · · ·问：我想我问的是：当您说您不知道时，是否是因为您认为\n\n8· ·可能有人曾经如此，而您无法——您没有\n\n10· ·具体的记忆，还是——\n\n11· · · · · · · ·托马森先生（MR. THOMASON）：让她把\n\n12· ·问题说完。\n\n13· · · · · · · ·卢夫特先生：对。\n\n14· · · · ·问：康博伊女士，我知道您正凭借自己最好的记忆作答，我对此表示感谢。但是我只是——这很重要，我只是想有一份\n\n17· ·清楚的记录。\n\n18· · · · · · · ·您是否记得，除郭先生本人外，郭先生家庭中的任何\n\n20· ·成员曾经通过克拉斯纳先生或直接，或通过任何其他\n\n22· ·代表，就是否购买或出售，或如何处理您参与的任何潜在购买事项，提供过指示？\n\n25· · · · ·答：不，我毫无记忆。\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n16· ·我认为是 Golden Spring（Golden Spring）或 Greenwich Land（Greenwich Land）\n\n17· ·购买并买下了该房产。\n\n·6· ·Road？ ·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊\n\n·2· · · · ·问：好的。好的。我们不再讨论该\n\n3· ·房产。\n\n·4· · · · · · · ·您记得，郭先生还让您参与了关于购买 33 Ferncliff\n\n·6· ·Road 的事项吗？\n\n·7· · · · · · · ·托马森先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n·8· · · · · · · ·您可以回答。\n\n·9· · · · ·答：是。\n\n10· · · · ·问：好的。您记得该交易的哪些情况？\n\n12· · · · ·答：该交易，他——或者——Max 曾说——我相信将会——\n\n14· ·该房产将供一名或多名家庭成员使用，而那栋房子——他——或者我\n\n16· ·认为是 Golden Spring 或 Greenwich Land 购买并买下了该房产。\n\n18· · · · ·问：您记得克拉斯纳先生说哪位家庭成员将住在该房产中吗？\n\n20· · · · ·答：不记得。\n\n21· · · · ·问：您曾到访过该房产吗？\n\n22· · · · ·答：没有。\n\n23· · · · ·问：您曾在家庭中的任何人到访该房产时在场吗？\n\n25· · · · ·答：我从未去过该房产。\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊 第 58 页\n\n·2· · · · ·问：您知道家庭中的任何成员是否曾在购买前到访该房产吗？\n\n·5· · · · ·答：我不知道。\n\n·6· · · · ·问：您会如何将该房产的规模与郭先生此前一直在看的其他房产相比较？\n\n·9· · · · ·答：该房产价值较低。我认为大约是 2 million。\n\n11· · · · · · · ·卢夫特先生：让我们将其标记为 Whitman Breed（Whitman Breed）证物 12——\n\n13· · · · · · · ·托马森先生：十四。\n\n14· · · · · · · ·卢夫特先生：十四？谢谢。\n\n15· · · · · · · ·托马森先生：十三。\n\n16· · · · · · · ·卢夫特先生：十三？更好。\n\n17· · · · · · · ·好的。其 Bates 编号为 WBAM_006317。\n\n18· · · · ·这是标签页 37。它是一封来自——看起来是康博伊女士发给\n\n20· ·Joel Kaye（乔尔·凯）、Gideon Fountain（吉迪恩·方廷）和 Martha\n\n21· ·Jeffrey（玛莎·杰弗里）的电子邮件，日期为 August 19, 2019，涉及\n\n22· ·33 Ferncliff。\n\n23· · · · · · · ·（Whitman Breed 证物 13，电子邮件\n\n24· · · · ·链，Bates 编号 WBAM_006317，此时被标记\n\n25· · · · ·供识别。）\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 60 of 99\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊 第 59 页\n\n·2· · ·由卢夫特先生发问：\n\n·3· · · · ·问：康博伊女士，您记得您写的这封电子邮件吗？\n\n·5· · · · ·答：我不记得，但我看到我把它写给了 Joel。\n\n·7· · · · ·问：好的。Joel Kaye 是谁？\n\n·8· · · · ·答：Joel Kaye 是卖方的律师。\n\n·9· · · · ·问：而您写道：“我已与我的客户审阅了\n\n10· ·修改内容。他唯一的修改意见是\n\n11· ·关于 five business-day 宽限期——他希望改为\n\n12· ·three business days，因为该家庭正从 California 搬来，\n\n13· ·他们的租约即将到期，而且他们需要让孩子安顿下来并\n\n15· ·入学。”\n\n16· · · · · · · ·您看到了吗？\n\n17· · · · ·答：看到了。\n\n18· · · · ·问：这封电子邮件中所指的“他”是谁？\n\n20· · · · ·答：Max。那会是 Max。\n\n21· · · · ·问：好的。您记得克拉斯纳先生\n\n22· ·告诉您，将要住在 33 Ferncliff 的家庭正从 California 搬来吗？\n\n24· · · · ·答：他一定说过，因为这就是我在电子邮件中写的内容。\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊 第 60 页\n\n·2· · · · ·问：而且，我还推定，他告诉您有学龄儿童？\n\n·5· · · · ·答：对。\n\n·6· · · · ·问：那么，这里对“家庭”的提及并非指郭先生的家庭，对吗，\n\n8· ·即指他的直系家庭？\n\n·9· · · · ·答：正确，正确。\n\n10· · · · ·问：据您理解，这不是供其妻子和成年子女居住的房屋？\n\n12· · · · ·答：据我理解，不是。\n\n13· · · · ·问：好的。您记得用于支付这栋房屋的资金来源是什么吗？\n\n15· · · · ·答：我不知道。\n\n16· · · · ·问：现在，上面写道：“我的客户正在将资金电汇至我们的受托账户。”\n\n18· · · · · · · ·您记得他们从哪里电汇了资金吗？\n\n20· · · · ·答：不，我不记得。我不知道。\n\n21· · · · ·问：您记得他们是以现金购买该房屋，还是获得了融资吗？\n\n23· · · · ·答：没有融资。\n\n24· · · · ·问：在购买该房屋之前，他们是否必须向\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊 第 61 页\n\n·2· ·卖方提供任何类型的财务尽职调查或陈述？\n\n·3· · · · ·答：我不知道。\n\n·4· · · · · · · ·卢夫特先生：我将请求将标签页 39 后的一份文件标记为\n\n5· · · · ·证物 14。其\n\n6· · · · ·Bates 编号为 WBAM_010121，是一封由您发给\n\n8· · · · ·Bruno 女士（Ms. Bruno）的、日期为 August 20, 2019 的电子邮件，主题为：“Greenwich Land LLC。”\n\n·9· · · · · · · ·（Whitman Breed 证物 14，日期为 August 20, 2019 的电子邮件，Bates 编号\n\n11· · · · ·WBAM_0101021，此时被标记为供识别。）\n\n13· · ·由卢夫特先生发问：\n\n14· · · · ·问：您看到了吗？\n\n15· · · · ·答：看到了。\n\n16· · · · ·问：Bruno 女士是谁？\n\n17· · · · ·答：我的律师助理。\n\n18· · · · ·问：好的。您记得发送这封电子邮件吗？\n\n20· · · · ·答：我不记得发送过它，但我发送了它。我不记得。\n\n22· · · · ·问：您看到您写道：“你能查一下 Greenwich Land LLC 的成员是谁吗——我想确认 Max Krasner 是一名成员——它是一家 Delaware LLC。”\n\n·1· · · · · · · · · · 玛格丽特·E·康博伊\n\n·2· · · · · · · ·您记得 Bruno 女士是否进行过那项查询吗？\n\n·4· · · · ·答：我不记得。\n\n·5· · · · ·问：您记得您是否曾问过克拉斯纳先生，他是否为 Greenwich Land LLC 的成员吗？\n\n·8· · · · ·答：我不记得。\n\n·9· · · · ·问：克拉斯纳先生是否曾告知您，他不是 Greenwich Land LLC 的成员？\n\n11· · · · ·答：据我记得，没有。\n\n12· · · · ·问：您知道——或者我应该说，在交易当时，您知道 Greenwich Land LLC 的成员——成员或多名成员是谁吗？\n\n16· · · · ·答：我不记得。我不记得。\n\n17· · · · ·问：您对该问题有任何记忆吗？\n\n19· · · · ·答：没有。\n\n20· · · · · · · ·卢夫特先生：好的。您可以把它放在一边。\n\n22· · · · · · · ·我将把标签页 40 后、Bates\n\n24· · · · ·编号为 WBAM_006741 的一份文件标记为证物 15，该文件是一封日期为 August 30,\n\n25· · · · ·2019 的电子邮件，往来于您、Kaye 先生和一名——\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 1805-48 Filed 05/18/23 Entered 05/18/23 23:05:44 Page 64 of 99\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊）\n\n·2· 抄送件数。\n\n·3· （Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德）证物15，电子邮件\n\n·4· 往来记录，贝茨编号WBAM_006741，于此时标记\n\n·5· 以供识别。）\n\n·6· 卢夫特先生（MR. LUFT）：\n\n·7· 问：您看到了吗？\n\n·8· 答：是的。\n\n·9· 问：其中写道（照读）：“乔尔（Joel），我的客户\n\n10· 当时在房子里，U-Haul卡车撞到了房子侧面。\n\n11· 我的客户正在给我发送照片。\n\n12· 砖块需要更换。”\n\n13· 您是否记得与此有关的任何事情？\n\n14· 答：只是麦克斯（Max）打电话说，我想是这辆\n\n15· U-Haul卡车撞到了房子侧面，\n\n16· 而且我不记得我们如何——我不记得\n\n17· 我们如何解决此事，乔尔的——如果卖方\n\n18· 给了抵扣款还是——还是没有。我不记得。\n\n19· 问：您是否记得在U-Haul卡车撞到房子时，\n\n20· 具体是谁在该房子里？\n\n21· 答：不记得。\n\n22· 问：好的。\n\n23· Krasner先生（克拉斯纳先生）是否曾告诉您，\n\n24· 除Kwok先生（郭文贵先生）以外，他家中的任何成员\n\n25· 曾到访过该房产？\n\nTSG记录服务——全球 877-702-9580\n\n案件22-50073 文件1805-48 提交日期05/18/23 录入日期05/18/23 23:05:44 第65页，共99页\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第64页\n\n·2· 答：据我记得，没有。\n\n·3· 托马森先生（MR. THOMASON）：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n·4· 答：据我记得，没有。\n\n·5· 问：好的。\n\n·6· 卢夫特先生：好的。我请求标记\n\n·7· Whitman Breed证言证物16，\n\n·8· 位于标签41之后的文件，贝茨编号\n\n·9· WBAM_007160至64，是布鲁诺女士（Ms. Bruno）、克拉斯纳先生\n\n10· 和您之间的电子邮件往来记录。\n\n12· （Whitman Breed证物16，电子邮件\n\n13· 往来记录，贝茨编号WBAM_007160至\n\n14· 164，于此时标记以供\n\n15· 识别。）\n\n16· 卢夫特先生提问：\n\n17· 问：具体而言，您看到了那份\n\n18· 文件吗？\n\n19· 答：是的。\n\n20· 问：它看起来是所述的电子邮件往来记录，\n\n21· 对吗？\n\n22· 答：抱歉？\n\n23· 问：它看起来是否是克拉斯纳先生、布鲁诺女士和您之间\n\n24· 关于33 Ferncliff检查事宜的\n\n25· 电子邮件往来记录？\n\nTSG记录服务——全球 877-702-9580\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第65页\n\n·2· 答：是的。\n\n·3· 问：如果您翻到贝茨编号末尾为\n\n·4· 161的页面，有一封克拉斯纳先生于10月21日发给\n\n·5· 布鲁诺女士和您的电子邮件，其中他说：\n\n·6· “好的。谢谢。请告知我日期，\n\n·7· 我会提前通知租户。”\n\n·8· 康博伊女士，您是否记得\n\n·9· 33 Ferncliff房产将出租给一名\n\n10· 租户？\n\n11· 答：我不记得。我不\n\n12· 记得。\n\n13· 问：作为房地产专业人士，\n\n14· 当有人提到有一名租户时，\n\n15· 您会如何理解？这是否使您理解为\n\n16· 该房产是——将要出租的？\n\n17· 答：嗯，即有一份——会有一份\n\n18· 租约，并且他们在支付租金，或者有人住在那里\n\n19· 并支付租金。\n\n20· 卢夫特先生：我将请求标记\n\n21· Whitman Breed证物17，一份贝茨编号\n\n22· WBAM_000002至05的文件。\n\n23· 托马森先生：那是标签42，对吗？\n\n24· 卢夫特先生：是的，先生。\n\n25· （Whitman Breed证物17，信托\n\n案件22-50073 文件1805-48 提交日期05/18/23 录入日期05/18/23 23:05:44 第67页，共99页\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第66页\n\n·2· 分类账，贝茨编号WBAM_000002至5，\n\n·3· 于此时标记以供识别。）\n\n·4· 卢夫特先生提问：\n\n·5· 问：康博伊女士，您认识这份\n\n·6· 文件吗？\n\n·7· 答：是的。这是一份——一份用于\n\n·8· 受托人账户的信托分类账。\n\n·9· 问：您能向我解释一下那是什么吗？\n\n10· 答：因此，当我们代理任何人进行\n\n11· 购买或出售时，资金流经我们的\n\n12· 受托人账户，而这份文件——它显示\n\n13· 流入的款项、汇出的款项、以及支票——\n\n14· 与某项交易有关汇出的支票或为\n\n15· 某项交易开具的支票。\n\n16· 问：您能否大致带我了解一下这份\n\n17· 文件，即本次交易的资金\n\n18· 流向？\n\n19· 答：因此，第一部分是购买\n\n20· Ferncliff。\n\n21· 问：购买方是谁——上面写着：\n\n22· “Golden Spring（金泉）”——\n\n23· 答：Golden Spring和Greenwich Land（格林尼治土地）。\n\n24· 这是Greenwich Land。\n\n25· 问：那么，谁是在此处进行购买的一方？\n\nTSG记录服务——全球 877-702-9580\n\n·2· 答：看起来是Greenwich Land。\n\n·3· 问：但第一笔记录写着：“代表\n\n·4· Golden Spring。”\n\n·6· 那么，您能否帮我理清\n\n·7· 这是如何运作的，因为——\n\n·8· 托马森先生：那么我能否请证人检验——阿维（Avi），您是在问她\n\n·9· 对交易结构的记忆，\n\n10· 还是在问她\n\n11· 该文件写了什么？因为我以为\n\n12· 问的是该文件写了什么。\n\n14· 卢夫特先生：嗯，听着，如果存在\n\n15· 差异，我想知道。我只是确实——\n\n16· 康博伊女士作为——作为你们的\n\n17· 代表，我只是请她\n\n18· 向我解释如何——如何理解这份\n\n19· 分类账。\n\n20· 而且我不知道她今天的理解\n\n21· 是否存在差异，\n\n22· 所以我可以提出那个基础性\n\n23· 问题。\n\n24· 托马森先生：嗯，可能还有\n\n25· 其他文件——如果您想知道如何\n\n案件22-50073 文件1805-48 提交日期05/18/23 录入日期05/18/23 23:05:44 第69页，共99页\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第68页\n\n·2· 构建交易结构或购买的，或者其他什么，\n\n·3· 可能还有其他文件，您\n\n·4· 知道，它们可能比这份文件更适合说明此事。\n\n·5· 卢夫特先生：我只是想理解\n\n·6· 这份文件如何运作。这是——嗯，\n\n·7· 我们何不逐项进行。\n\n·8· 卢夫特先生提问：\n\n·9· 问：这是Whitman Breed的信托分类账，\n\n10· 对吗？\n\n11· 答：对，对。这是一份会计记录。\n\n12· 这是我们的会计记录。因此，对于我们完成的每一笔销售，\n\n13· 我们都会这样做。\n\n14· 所以看起来——看起来\n\n15· 8月27日有120万代表\n\n16· Golden Spring汇入。\n\n17· 问：好的。\n\n18· 答：随后是Capital One，但之后写的是Greenwich，所以这笔钱可能是为了\n\n19· Greenwich Land LLC的利益。\n\n21· 然后另一边的这些支票是所有汇出的款项，例如\n\n22· First American Title Insurance（第一美国产权保险）、\n\n23· 应付给另一名律师的余额、首付款——让我看看——\n\n25· Greenwich镇登记费。所以那些\n\nTSG记录服务——全球 877-702-9580\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第69页\n\n·2· 都是汇出的项目。\n\n·3· 问：而且它们都写着：“代表\n\n·4· Golden Springs。”那么，如果我理解正确，\n\n·5· 这是Golden Spring代表Greenwich Land支付\n\n·6· 124万，然后有所有汇出的款项，\n\n·7· 而且全部——上面写着：“代表”——\n\n·8· 因此，那些是从该账户中代表Golden Spring\n\n·9· 作出的付款，\n\n10· 对吗？\n\n11· 答：我不知道。我不能确定地这么说，\n\n12· 因为我们的会计记录——我不知道\n\n13· 那是否正确。因为会计记录中，\n\n14· 他们只是使用——那些是我们指称事项的\n\n15· 编号。我不知道那实际上是否是\n\n16· 它——他们——如何——如果Golden Spring——我\n\n17· 不知道。我不知道。\n\n18· 问：嗯，当上面写着（照读）：“汇出：J.P. Morgan Chase代表\n\n19· Golden Spring”时，那是什么意思？请解释，\n\n20· 这是如何运作的？\n\n21· 这是什么意思？\n\n22· 答：我得问我的簿记员。我\n\n23· 不知道。\n\n24· 托马森先生：形式异议。\n\n25· 问：这是否表明这是\n\n案件22-50073 文件1805-48 提交日期05/18/23 录入日期05/18/23 23:05:44 第71页，共99页\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第70页\n\n·2· 代表Golden Spring以外任何人的\n\n·3· 付款？\n\n·4· 答：或者代表Greenwich Land。我不——\n\n·5· 问：那里没有提到Greenwich Land，\n\n·6· 对吗？\n\n·7· 答：有——是的，有。\n\n·8· 问：在哪里？\n\n·9· 答：Greenwich Land LLC购买了\n\n10· 33 Ferncliff。\n\n11· 这些问题您得问我的簿记员，因为我确实不知道\n\n12· 他们如何标记这些事项，但那里也有\n\n13· Greenwich Land LLC。\n\n15· 问：嗯，在“汇入”项下，他们从——对，\n\n16· 有资金从Golden Spring代表Greenwich Land汇入，\n\n17· 这是您告诉我的，\n\n18· 对吗？\n\n19· 答：这就是这里所写的。\n\n20· 问：对于所有“汇出”记录，所有汇出记录都只提及Golden Spring，\n\n21· 而没有提及Greenwich\n\n22· Land，对吗？\n\n23· 答：不对。\n\n24· 托马森先生：阿维，您想暂时\n\n25· 停止记录一会儿吗？\n\nTSG记录服务——全球 877-702-9580\n\n案件22-50073 文件1805-48 提交日期05/18/23 录入日期05/18/23 23:05:44 第72页，共99页\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊）\n\n·2· 如果您想停止记录，我们\n\n·3· 可能可以把它解释得更\n\n·4· 清楚一些。\n\n·5· 卢夫特先生：当然，我们可以暂时\n\n·6· 停止记录。\n\n·7· 摄像记录员（VIDEOGRAPHER）：我们于上午11:57停止记录。\n\n·9· （休庭。）\n\n10· 摄像记录员：我们于上午11:59恢复\n\n11· 记录。\n\n12· 卢夫特先生提问：\n\n13· 问：康博伊女士，还有几个问题。\n\n14· 中间有一个灰色\n\n15· 轮廓框，其中写着：“汇入：代表Golden Spring从标签页转换而来。”\n\n16· 底部写着：\n\n17· “Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石）。”\n\n18· 那笔钱是否从Hudson\n\n19· Diamond汇入该账户？\n\n20· 答：我不确定您看的是哪里。\n\n21· 问：就在中间，有一个很大的\n\n22· 灰色框，写着：“汇入。”\n\n23· 记录编号795777？\n\n24· 答：795777。\n\n25· 那是你们的收款。看起来\n\nTSG记录服务——全球 877-702-9580\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第72页\n\n·2· 像是——哦，我在这里看到了。有一笔\n\n·3· \\$2,800的收款。\n\n·4· 问：好的。我的问题只是：那笔钱是否来自Hudson Diamond，因为上面写着：\n\n·5· “汇入”？\n\n·7· 答：再次说明，我不知道。对我来说并不清楚——\n\n·8· 不清楚。我不明白他们——\n\n·9· 这个程序是如何运作的。\n\n10· 问：明白。\n\n11· 答：是的。\n\n12· 问：好的。我想我们稍后会尝试澄清\n\n13· 此事。\n\n14· 还有一个问题，如果您能回答：\n\n15· 如果您翻到下一页，有一项记录写着1102379，\n\n16· 它是代表Golden Spring分配的\n\n17· 约227万，并写着：“银行：Greenwich First Bank（格林尼治第一银行）。”\n\n18· 关于销售净收益，33——\n\n20· 您能否——那是否是从其汇出\n\n21· 款项的银行账户——\n\n22· 答：那是该银行——他们让我们——\n\n23· Max Krasner（麦克斯·克拉斯纳）让我们把销售收益电汇至\n\n24· 该账户。\n\n25· 问：明白了。\n\n案件22-50073 文件1805-48 提交日期05/18/23 录入日期05/18/23 23:05:44 第74页，共99页\n\n·1· MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第73页\n\n因此，这笔钱是——\n\n答：出售所得款项。\n\n问：这是在房屋33 Ferncliff出售时所得的款项？\n\n答：对，正确。\n\n问：那么，33 Ferncliff再次出售且Kwok（郭文贵）先生为卖方时，这就是款项汇入的银行账户，对吗？这是First Bank of Greenwich（格林尼治第一银行）？\n\n答：这是Max（马克斯）建议我将款项电汇至的那个账户。\n\n问：好的。账户号码上方有一块遮挡。\n\n这是您作出的遮盖，还是律所作出的？\n\n答：是。\n\nLUFT先生：好的。我们要求您向我们提供完整的账户号码。\n\nMichael（迈克尔），或许您也可以让会计部门向我们提供该号码。\n\n问：好的。Krasner（克拉斯纳）先生是否告诉过您该银行账户属于谁？\n\n答：没有。\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n案号22-50073 文件1805-48 提交于05/18/23 登记于05/18/23 23:05:44 第75页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第74页\n\n问：而且，这并不是最初用于购买该房屋的资金所出自的银行账户，对吗？\n\n答：我不知道。我不知道。\n\n问：如果我们查看信托账簿，那是一个Capital One（第一资本）账户？\n\nTHOMASON（托马森）先生：您必须回答“是”或“否”。\n\n答：是，是。\n\n问：好的。因此，购买33 Ferncliff的款项来自一个Capital One账户，但2022年出售该房屋所得的款项进入了一个First Bank of Greenwich账户，对吗？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：而且，从未有人告诉过您该First Bank of Greenwich银行账户是以谁的名义开立的，对吗？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：除该款项被汇入这个First Bank of Greenwich账户这一事实外，您是否有任何其他关于谁收到了33 Ferncliff出售所得款项的信息？\n\n答：没有。\n\nLUFT先生：我认为我们已经到第18号了，对吗？\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n案号22-50073 文件1805-48 提交于05/18/23 登记于05/18/23 23:05:44 第76页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第75页\n\n这听起来对大家来说都对吗？\n\nTHOMASON先生：是。\n\nLUFT先生：我请求将Tab 60之后、Bates编号为008330至008334的一份文件标记为Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德）证言证物18；该文件是一组Krasner先生与Conboy女士之间、有关33 Ferncliff、日期为February 10, 2021的电子邮件往来。\n\n（Whitman Breed证物18，即Bates编号为WBAM_008330至334的电子邮件往来，此时已标记供识别。）\n\nTHOMASON先生：您说的是8330至334？\n\nLUFT先生：是。\n\nLUFT先生讯问：\n\n问：Conboy女士，您认得这组您与Krasner先生之间的电子邮件往来吗？\n\n答：我不记得了，但这是我们之间的一组电子邮件往来，不过我不记得。\n\n问：您看到Krasner先生在February of 2021谈到将33 Ferncliff赠与一名Qing Cai（蔡青）吗？\n\n您看到了吗？\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第76页\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您记得有关将33 Ferncliff赠与Qing Cai的任何讨论吗？\n\n答：我不记得有关此事的任何事情。我不记得赠与过它。我不记得我们是否曾经提交过将其以放弃权利契据转让给那个人的契据。\n\n问：而且，最终没有这样做，因为实际上——\n\n答：产权仍在Greenwich Land（格林尼治土地公司）名下。\n\n问：对，因为他们将其作为无通路地块出售？\n\n答：是，所以我不记得。\n\n问：您是否记得Qing Cai是谁？\n\n答：不记得。\n\n问：您从证物18中看到，似乎Qing Cai是住在33 Ferncliff Road的租户吗？\n\n答：Max把她——把他或她的地址记为33 Ferncliff。\n\n问：您是否记得有任何关于Kwok先生希望将该房产赠与Cai女士的讨论？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第77页\n\n或者赠与任何其他人的讨论？\n\n答：如我所说，我没有与——我从未与Kwok先生交谈过。是Max。因此，我不记得Max告诉我有关赠与该房产的事。\n\n问：但您明白Krasner先生是为业主工作，而不是Krasner先生本人是业主，对吗？\n\n答：对，正确，正确。\n\n问：您是否记得为何决定不赠与该房产，而事实上保留该房产？\n\n答：不记得。\n\n问：好的。您是否记得——我们已经稍微谈过这个——在April of 2022，实际上33 Ferncliff Road被出售了？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您第一次听说33 Ferncliff的业主想要出售该房产是在何时？\n\n答：我——我不记得。要么是Max告诉我的，要么是经纪人告诉我的。我不记得是哪一个。\n\n问：他们是否曾告诉您任何有关他们为何想出售该房屋的事情？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第78页\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：他们是否曾与您讨论过，New York State Court（纽约州法院）曾作出一项命令，限制出售Kwok先生的资产？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：或者他们是否曾收到有关不得出售这所房屋的法律文书送达？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：这不是Krasner先生告诉您的事情，对吗？\n\n答：不，正确。\n\n问：您记得，从您第一次被告知他们正在考虑出售该房屋，到该房屋被出售，这一过程持续了多久？\n\n答：我不记得日期。我不——我不知道。我不记得日期。\n\n问：您记得这是否是一个相对迅速的过程？\n\n答：不。我不记得。我不记得这是一个相对迅速的过程。我不记得花了多久。\n\n问：鉴于您在某个时候被告知该房产将被赠与，您是否记得听说现在他们——现在该房产将被出售时，曾感到惊讶？\n\n案号22-50073 文件1805-48 提交于05/18/23 登记于05/18/23 23:05:44 第80页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第79页\n\n答：没有，我——没有，我并不惊讶。\n\n问：除出售所得款项或资金被汇入First Bank of Greenwich账户这一事实外，您是否知道33 Ferncliff的出售所得款项在转出后去了哪里？\n\n答：不知道，不知道。不知道。\n\n问：您是否曾与Kwok太太交谈过？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：您知道Kwok先生妻子的姓名吗？\n\n答：我完全不知道，不知道。\n\n问：您是否曾与她有过任何沟通？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：如果我说出Hin Chi Nok（诺克欣奇）这个名字，是否会帮助您恢复记忆？\n\n答：不会。\n\n问：您是否曾收到任何人代表Nok女士就任何房产作出的任何指示？\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n案号22-50073 文件1805-48 提交于05/18/23 登记于05/18/23 23:05:44 第81页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第80页\n\n答：据我所知没有。\n\n问：您知道Nok女士是否以任何方式参与了33 Ferncliff的出售吗？\n\n答：我完全不知道。\n\n问：那么债务人的儿子Miles Guo（郭迈尔斯）呢？\n\n答：我不知道，没有。\n\n问：您以前听说过那个名字吗？\n\n答：没有，没听说过。\n\n问：您以前听说过Chen Guo（郭晨）这个名字吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：您是否曾收到有关33 Ferncliff的任何指示，而您被告知这些指示是代表Chen Guo先生作出的——\n\n答：是，据我所知没有。\n\n问：同样的问题：您是否曾收到任何——是否曾有人告诉您——您是否知道Mae Guo（郭梅）就33 Ferncliff有任何参与？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：在您与Krasner先生的所有沟通中，他是否曾告诉您，他在作出任何决定前需要获得Kwok先生儿子的批准？\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n案号22-50073 文件1805-48 提交于05/18/23 登记于05/18/23 23:05:44 第82页，共99页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第81页\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：Krasner先生是否曾告诉您，他在作出任何决定前需要获得Kwok先生妻子Nok女士的批准？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：他是否曾告诉您，他在作出任何决定前需要获得Kwok先生女儿Mae Guo女士的批准？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：这是否适用于您代表Kwok先生处理的所有房产？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。\n\nLUFT先生：我们可以把那个放到一边。\n\n问：现在，还有另一处涉及Kwok先生、但您并未代理他的房产，对吗，即373 Taconic Road？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：而且，当Kwok先生是该房产的买方时，您代理的是卖方，对吗？\n\n答：正确。\n\nTSG Reporting - Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第82页\n\n问：而且，尽管Kwok先生将成为买方，您是否取得了豁免，以便您可以在该房产交易中代理卖方？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您记得有关该交易的什么情况？\n\n答：我不记得该交易中有任何异常之处，没有任何不寻常之处。\n\n问：好的。您是否记得在完成——签订合同之前，从潜在买方处收到财务尽职调查资料？\n\n答：不记得。\n\n问：那么在签订合同之后呢？\n\n答：不记得。\n\n问：您是否记得该房屋是否有融资？\n\n答：什么？\n\n问：您是否记得该房屋是否有任何融资？\n\n答：我不——我不记得。我不知道。\n\n问：您是否记得Kwok先生用什么资金购买3073 Ferncliff——Taconic Road——抱歉？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第83页\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：好的。您的当事人是 Augustine 先生（奥古斯丁先生），对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您此前曾代理过 Augustine 先生吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您记得 Emile deNeree 先生（埃米尔·德内雷先生）是该交易中代表买方的经纪人吗？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\nLUFT 先生：我们将其标记为 Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德）证言证据 19。对吗？\n\nTHOMASON 先生：对。\n\nLUFT 先生：很好。\n\n标签 55 后的文件。该文件的 Bates 编号为 WBAM_009051 至 53，我相信您会告诉我，这是您、deNeree 先生、Krasner 先生（克拉斯纳先生）和 Bruno 女士（布鲁诺女士）之间关于 373 Taconic Road 的电子邮件链。\n\n（Whitman Breed 证据 19，即 Bates 编号为 WBAM_009051 至 53 的电子邮件链，此时已标记以供识别。）\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊） 第 84 页\n\n由 LUFT 先生询问：\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：事实上，该邮件链中还有一封更早的电子邮件，来自 Julie Burke 女士（朱莉·伯克女士）并发给 deNeree 先生，整件事由此开始，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：她对仍由托管账户持有的资金有疑问，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：随后，deNeree 先生于 8 月 19 日给您写信，他说：“亲爱的 Margaret 和 Max”——那是指您和 Krasner 先生，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：“373 Taconic 的卖方”——那是您的当事人 Augustine 先生，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：“由 Miles 以 Greenwich Land（格林尼治地产）的名义购得”——那是 Kwok 先生（郭文贵）通过 Greenwich Land 购得该房产，对吗？\n\n答：我——是的，邮件上是这么写的。电子邮件是这么写的。\n\n问：您对该交易是否有不同的理解？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第 85 页\n\n答：我不记得他们是如何购买的。我确实不记得。\n\n问：好的。“要求解除托管账户中的资金。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：而您告知 deNeree 先生，您代理的是 Augustine 先生，因此需要联系 Krasner 先生或买方律师，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：deNeree 先生是买方的经纪人，而不是卖方的经纪人，对吗？\n\n答：我不记得，但从电子邮件来看似乎是这样。\n\n问：作为买方经纪人，他是在说——他告诉您，该房屋由 Kwok 先生以 Greenwich Land 的名义购得；对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。\n\n您最后一次代表 Kwok 先生、Greenwich Land、Golden Springs（黄金泉）或任何其他与 Kwok 先生有关联的实体办理交易，是什么时候？\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1805-48，于 05/18/23 提交，于 05/18/23 23:05:44 录入，第 87 页，共 99 页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第 86 页\n\n答：是 Ferncliff（弗恩克利夫）的出售交易。\n\n问：除此以外，就 373 Taconic Road 而言，您只是该交易的另一方，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您是否曾在涉及 Kwok 先生的任何其他交易中担任另一方？\n\n答：没有。据我所知，没有。\n\n问：自 Ferncliff 房产之后，Kwok 先生、Krasner 先生或任何其他与 Kwok 先生有关联的人，是否曾就任何其他潜在工作联系过您或您的律师事务所？\n\n答：我认为没有。据我回忆，没有。\n\n问：您是否知道还有其他律师曾就房地产交易代理 Kwok 先生？\n\n答：不知道，据我所知没有。只有 373，不过——我不知道——就这些。\n\n问：除通过 Google 得知 Kwok 先生是一名华裔亿万富翁外，您在与他打交道期间还了解到关于 Kwok 先生的什么情况？\n\nTSG Reporting（TSG 记录服务）— Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1805-48，于 05/18/23 提交，于 05/18/23 23:05:44 录入，第 88 页，共 99 页\n\n问：除我们今天讨论的内容外，您是否曾了解到关于名为“Greenwich Land”的实体的任何情况？\n\n问：您是否知道除 Kwok 先生外，还有任何人对 Greenwich Land 拥有任何权益或控制权？\n\n问：是否有人曾告诉您，除 Kwok 先生外还有任何人控制 Greenwich Land？\n\n问：是否有人曾告诉您谁控制了它？\n\n问：是否有人曾告诉您谁控制 Golden Spring？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY\n\n答：就这些。我确实没有对他了解太多。\n\n问：是否有任何经纪人曾告诉您关于 Kwok 先生的任何情况？\n\n答：没有。我不记得有。\n\n答：没有。\n\n答：我完全不知道。\n\n答：如我所说，没有人告诉我是谁控制了它。\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：是否有人曾告诉您，就您为 Golden Spring、Greenwich Land 或 Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石）所做工作相关的房地产交易而言，除 Kwok 先生外还有任何决策者？\n\nTSG Reporting — Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 1805-48，于 05/18/23 提交，于 05/18/23 23:05:44 录入，第 89 页，共 99 页\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第 88 页\n\n答：从未有人告诉我其中任何一家是谁在作出决定。\n\n问：除非——嗯——\n\n答：是的，除电子邮件中发给我的任何内容外，但就这些。\n\n问：而在那些电子邮件中，唯一被提及的人是 Miles Kwok，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\nLUFT 先生：好的。我们休息一下吧。\n\nTHOMASON 先生：您想休息多久？\n\nLUFT 先生：十分钟？\n\nTHOMASON 先生：好的。我去会计人员那里看看，能否得到那个问题的答案。\n\nLUFT 先生：好的，如果您也能核查一下那个账户号码，那就太好了。\n\nTHOMASON 先生：好的。谢谢。\n\n摄像记录员：我们于上午 12:23 停止记录。\n\nTSG Reporting — Worldwide Worldwide 877-702-9580\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第 89 页\n\n（休庭。）\n\n摄像记录员：我们于上午 12:38 恢复记录。\n\n由 LUFT 先生询问：\n\n问：Conboy 女士，我要请您再次取出证言证据 17，其 Bates 编号为 WBAM_00002 至 00005。\n\n您面前有该文件吗？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：好的。现在，您的律师告诉我，他将向我发送一份关于 First Bank of Greenwich（格林尼治第一银行）账户的未删节版本，因此那件事就会得到处理。好吗？\n\n答：对。当然，是的。\n\n问：然后我相信——我只是想澄清一下，因为我相信您已做了一些查找工作，这非常有帮助——也就是说，关于是哪一家银行的条目，无论是 Capital One（第一资本）还是 First Greenwich（格林尼治第一银行），所有那些——那些都是 Whitman Breed 会计部门根据其知悉属实的信息所作的实际手工录入，对吗？\n\n答：是的，对。\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第 90 页\n\n问：太好了。\n\nLUFT 先生：好的。您可以把它放在一边。\n\n证人：好的。\n\n问：好的。好了。Conboy 女士，我们今天讨论了若干处房产。我相信，除 373 Taconic 外，我们讨论的每一处房产，都是您作为潜在购买项目代理 Kwok 先生权益的房产。我知道——这对吗？\n\n答：对，对。\n\n问：对于所有那些房产，我相信您都是与 Krasner 先生打交道，作为 Kwok 先生的代表，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：对。\n\n问：在您就购买 33 Ferncliff 一事，将 Krasner 先生作为 Kwok 先生的代表与其打交道时，您就该房产与他互动的方式，是否与您就 Kwok 先生曾考虑购买但未购买的任何其他房产与 Krasner 先生互动的方式有所不同？\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY 第 91 页\n\n答：没有，没有。\n\n问：很好。\n\nLUFT 先生：Conboy 女士，我们谈到的还有最后一件程序性事项，即正如我们——我已经与您的律师谈过，也向您提到过，我们将就认证和业务记录准备一份宣誓书或声明，以节省您的时间；但在完成该事项并提交一份声明后，我目前没有进一步的问题要问您。\n\n非常感谢。\n\n证人：谢谢。谢谢。\n\n摄像记录员：Thomason 先生，您有什么要说的吗？\n\nTHOMASON 先生：没有。\n\n摄像记录员：好的。律师，我们是否都准备好停止记录？\n\nLUFT 先生：准备好了。\n\n摄像记录员：今天对 Margaret E. Conboy 的证言至此结束。我们于上午 12:41 停止记录。这也结束了媒体 2。\n\n第 92 页\n\n（上述程序于上午 12:41 结束。）\n\noOo\n\n本人，MARGARET E. CONBOY，本案证人，特此证明，本证言上述各页为真实、准确的记录文本，但以所附页面上列明的更正（如有）为准。\n\n__________________________\n\nMARGARET E. CONBOY\n\n于_______年_______________月_______日，在本人面前签署并宣誓。\n\n_____________________________________\n\n证 明 书\n\n本人，AMY A. RIVERA（艾米·A·里维拉），新泽西州持证速记员、注册专业记录员、持证 LiveNote 记录员及公证人，特此证明：在询问开始前，MARGARET E. CONBOY（玛格丽特·E·康博伊）已由本人依法宣誓，将如实陈述全部事实，不作虚假陈述。\n\n本人进一步证明，上述内容是在此前载明的时间、地点及日期，由本人当场以速记方式记录的证言之真实、准确的笔录。\n\n本人进一步证明，本人既非本案任何一方当事人的亲属、雇员、律师或法律顾问，亦非该等律师或法律顾问的亲属或雇员，且本人对本案不具有任何经济利益。\n\n________________________________________\nAmy A. Rivera, CSR, RPR, CLR\n新泽西州公证人\n本人委任期限于 July 29, 2025 届满\n执照编号：XI00939\n日期：February 21, 2023\n\nTSG Reporting（TSG记录服务）— 全球服务 877-702-9580\n\n第 94 页\n\n索 引\n\n证人 页码\nMARGARET E. 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