{"id":"court_ctb_2292_45","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":2292,"sub_number":45,"doc_type":"EXHIBIT","filed_date":"2023-10-26","title":"Exhibit 45 ","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"#### **Exhibit 45**\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 2 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. September 12, 2023 1\n\n\n\n 2 Tuesday, September 12, 2023 3 10:00 a.m. 6 REMOTE Deposition of MARGARET CONBOY, held VIA ZOOM, before LISA M. MURACO, a Notary Public of the State of New York, Florida, and Massachusetts. MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. September 12, 2023 800.211.DEPO (3376)\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 2 A P P E A R A N C E S: 3 (REMOTE) 4 5 PAUL HASTINGS 6 Attorneys for Movant and Cross-Respondent 7 Mr. Luc A. Despins, Chapter 11 Trustee for 8 the Estate of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 9 200 Park Avenue 10 New York NY 10166 11 BY: NICHOLAS BASSETT, ESQ. 12 Nicholasbassett@paulhastings.com 13 AVRAM LUFT, ESQ. 14 Aviluft@paulhastings.com 15 EZRA SUTTON, ESQ. 16 Ezrasutton@paulhastings.com 17 DOUGLASS BARRON, ESQ. 18 Douglassbarron@paulhastings.com 19 LUYI SONG, ESQ. 20 Luyisong@paulhastings.com 21 22 23 24 25 KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 3\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 5 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 2 A P P E A R A N C E S: 3 (REMOTE) 4 5 MEISTER SEELIG & FEIN 6 Attorneys for Defendants Greenwich LLC and 7 Hing Chi Ngok 8 125 Park Avenue 9 7th Floor 10 New York, NY 10017 11 BY: CHRISTOPHER MAJOR, ESQ. 12 Cjm@msf-law.com 13 AUSTIN KIM, ESQ. 14 Adk@msf-law.com 15 16 17 WHITMAN BREED ABBOTT & MORGAN 18 Attorneys for the Witness 19 500 West Putnam Avenue 20 Greenwich CT 06830 21 BY: MICHAEL THOMASON, ESQ. 22 Mthomason@wbamct.com 23 24 25 KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 4\n\n\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 6 of\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\nYVer1f\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n| 1 | |\n|----|--------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED |\n| 3 | by and between the attorneys for the |\n| 4 | respective parties herein, that filing and |\n| 5 | sealing be and the same are hereby waived. |\n| 6 | IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED |\n| 7 | that all objections, except as to the form |\n| 8 | of the question, shall be reserved to the |\n| 9 | time of the trial. |\n| 10 | IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED |\n| 11 | that the within deposition may be sworn to |\n| 12 | and signed before any officer authorized |\n| 13 | to administer an oath, with the same |\n| 14 | force and effect as if signed and sworn |\n| 15 | to before the Court. |\n| 16 | |\n| 17 | |\n| 18 | |\n| 19 | |\n| 20 | - oOo - |\n| 21 | |\n| 22 | |\n| 23 | |\n| 24 | |\n| 25 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:05\n\n10:05\n\n10:05\n\n10:06\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | M A R G A R E T
C O N B O Y, called as a |\n| 3 | witness, having been duly sworn by a Notary |\n| 4 | Public, was examined and testified as follows: |\n| 5 | EXAMINATION BY |\n| 6 | MR. BASSETT: |\n| 7 | Q.
Thank you very much. |\n| 8 | MR. MAJOR:
Nick, just before we get |\n| 9 | started, can we agree that we will do the |\n| 10 | usual stipulations, including that |\n| 11 | objections, except as to the form of the |\n| 12 | question, are reserved. |\n| 13 | MR. THOMASON:
That's the |\n| 14 | Connecticut usual stipulations. |\n| 15 | MR. BASSETT:
I'm not agreeing to |\n| 16 | the usual stipulations because I don't know |\n| 17 | what they are. |\n| 18 | MR. MAJOR:
Let's just set them up. |\n| 19 | I think the most important one, just for |\n| 20 | the administration of the deposition and to |\n| 21 | make sure we can get through it, is that |\n| 22 | objections, except as to the form of the |\n| 23 | question, are reserved.
So, you know, I'll |\n| 24 | just object if I have any objections to the |\n| 25 | form of the question, and leave it at that. |\n| | |\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 8 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 So that we're not dealing with all -- you 3 know, a whole slew of objections like 4 hearsay and all of that kind of stuff. 5 Those can be dealt with later. 6 MR. BASSETT: I'm fine with that. I 7 think that's what the rule would provide. 8 MR. MAJOR: Yup. 9 MR. BASSETT: I mean, I don't want 10 to -- I'm not agreeing to quote, unquote, 11 usual stipulations with which I am not 12 familiar. But if we're all agreeing that 13 the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and 14 the Federal Rules of Evidence apply to this 15 case, I have no problem with that. 16 MR. MAJOR: The objections are 17 reserved, so we don't have to make them 18 now. 19 MR. BASSETT: Again, I think -- 20 Chris, I think the rules provide for that, 21 but... 22 MR. MAJOR: Yeah, and then I just 23 want to make a statement on behalf of our 24 client Greenwich Land that we are the 25 maintaining the attorney-client privilege, KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 7\n\n> 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n10:06\n\n10:06\n\n10:06\n\n10:06\n\n10:07\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 9 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\nKWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|---------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | and therefore communications that the |\n| 3 | witness or her firm had with officers of |\n| 4 | Greenwich Land LLC are privileged, as well |\n| 5 | as mental impressions and speculation and |\n| 6 | anything based on those communications are |\n| 7 | privileged, including, without limitation, |\n| 8 | any disclosures that have already been made |\n| 9 | to the trustee, either in a 2004 exam or in |\n| 10 | separate communications.
Those were not |\n| 11 | authorized disclosures of attorney-client |\n| 12 | privileged communications, and therefore we |\n| 13 | are asking the witness and her counsel that |\n| 14 | she not testify to any communications she |\n| 15 | had with Greenwich Land LLC officers or any |\n| 16 | mental impressions or speculation the |\n| 17 | witness may have derived or come to as a |\n| 18 | result of communications with officers of |\n| 19 | Greenwich Land LLC. |\n| 20 | MR. BASSETT:
Well, Chris you've |\n| 21 | seen the 2004 deposition transcript in this |\n\n22 case, correct?\n\n·\n\n23 MR. MAJOR: When you say \"in this 24 case,\" I don't know if you are -- assume 25 you are referring to Ms. Conboy's\n\n> 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n10:07\n\n8\n\n10:07\n\n10:07\n\n10:08\n\n10:08\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 10 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:08\n\n9\n\n10:08\n\n10:08\n\n10:09\n\n10:09\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY deposition transcript? 3 MR. BASSETT: Yes. 4 MR. MAJOR: Yes, it's an exhibit to the complaint. 6 MR. BASSETT: Right. And if what you are saying is that now for the first time you are going to raise privilege over, for example, all the questions that we asked Ms. Conboy about documents involving her communications with Max Krasner and the like, and we are not going to be able to ask about those, then we have a serious problem, and you should have told us about that before the deposition today. 16 MR. MAJOR: Well, we weren't invited to the 2004 exam. This is our first appearance with this witness. And we are asserting the attorney-client privilege to the extent she's going to testify about communications she had with officers. And I don't know -- 23 (Multiple speakers.) 24 MR. BASSETT: Well -- Chris, you have -- suffice it to say you have long ago KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 11 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\nKWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | waived any argument that information |\n| 3 | contained in our complaint and attached in |\n| 4 | the deposition transcript filed publicly is |\n| 5 | privileged information.
If you felt that |\n| 6 | way, you should have said something months |\n| 7 | ago.
So I'm not going to -- I'm not even |\n| 8 | going to entertain that argument.
But why |\n| 9 | don't we -- why don't we start and we will |\n| 10 | see where we go.
If we get to a point |\n| 11 | where you're not letting me conduct this |\n| 12 | deposition in the way I need to conduct it, |\n| 13 | we're going to have a take a break and |\n| 14 | we're going to have figure this out. |\n| 15 | MR. MAJOR:
Okay.
It's not an |\n| 16 | argument for you to entertain.
It's |\n| 17 | Greenwich Land owns the privilege. |\n| 18 | MR. BASSETT:
And you've waived it, |\n| 19 | Chris. |\n| 20 | MR. MAJOR:
No.
No.
We have not |\n| 21 | participated in that. |\n| 22 | MR. BASSETT:
All right.
Let's |\n| 23 | just -- all right, let's -- let's just go |\n| 24 | and see how it goes. |\n| 25 | MR. MAJOR:
And I don't know what |\n| | |\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 10:09\n\n10\n\n10:09\n\n10:09\n\n10:10\n\n10:10\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 12 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:10\n\n10:10\n\n10:10\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 you or other representatives of the trustee 3 said to Whitman Breed to induce those 4 communications, but, you know, the 5 privilege is owned by Greenwich Land LLC. 6 It's not the trustee's call. And it's not 7 something for you to entertain. 8 MR. BASSETT: All right. Well, I'm 9 not agreeing with any of that, but, like I 10 said, let's continue. 11 BY MR. BASSETT: 12 Q. All right. Ms. Conboy, sorry for 13 that detour. 14 A. No. 15 Q. You and I have not had the pleasure 16 of meeting before but, again, I'm Nick Bassett 17 with Paul Hastings. We are counsel to the 18 Chapter 11 trustee in Ho Wan Kwok's bankruptcy 19 case. 20 A. Nice to meet you. 21 Q. Ms. Conboy, I note, A, you're a 22 lawyer; and B, you've been deposed before, so I 23 won't -- I won't bother going over kind of the 24 rules of the road here. 25 The one thing I'll mention at the KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 11\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 13 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | outset is that I know you do have other |\n| 3 | obligations this afternoon.
We committed to |\n| 4 | get you out of here, I think, in no more than |\n| 5 | four hours, and I'm confident we will be able |\n| 6 | to do that, and to help be as expeditious as |\n| 7 | possible, I do not plan to take a lunch break, |\n| 8 | but, obviously, if you need a break, if you |\n| 9 | want a lunch break, if you want -- you know, |\n| 10 | break at any time, feel free to let me know. |\n| 11 | And as long as you answer any pending question, |\n| 12 | I'll be happy to accommodate. |\n| 13 | Is that okay? |\n| 14 | A.
That's fine.
Thank you. |\n| 15 | Q.
All right.
You are welcome. |\n| 16 | Ms. Conboy, where are you located at |\n| 17 | the moment?
Is that your law office in the |\n| 18 | Connecticut? |\n| 19 | A.
Yes, Greenwich, Connecticut. |\n| 20 | Q.
And that's your counsel, a colleague |\n| 21 | of yours at the firm who's with you, |\n| 22 | Mr. Thomason? |\n| 23 | A.
Yes. |\n| 24 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 25 | Ms. Conboy, without revealing the |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 14 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| M. CONBOY |\n|-------------------------------------------------|\n| substance of any communications with your |\n| counsel, can you just describe for me what you |\n| did to prepare for today's deposition? |\n| A.
I just reviewed the -- my prior |\n| transcript and that affidavit, and that was it. |\n| Q.
When you say \"that affidavit\" what |\n| are you referring to? |\n| A.
The affidavit that was -- the |\n| affidavit that was drafted, I think, by your |\n| office or Chris Major's office. |\n| Q.
Did you review any other documents? |\n| A.
No. |\n| Q.
Okay. |\n| And where do you currently reside? |\n| Ms. Conboy, are you a resident of Connecticut? |\n| A.
In Greenwich, yes. |\n| Q.
And you are employed at Whitman |\n| Breed Abbott & Morgan LLC, that's the full |\n| name? |\n| A.
Yes. |\n| Q.
What is your title? |\n| A.
I'm a real estate attorney.
I'm a |\n| partner -- |\n| Q.
Okay. |\n| |\n| |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 15 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\nYVer1f\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| | | M. CONBOY | | | | |\n|----|------------------|-------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|--|\n| 2 | A. | -- at the firm. | | | | |\n| 3 | Q. | And you said you practice real | | | | |\n| 4 | estate law. | | | | | |\n| 5 | | Is that a accurate description? | | | | |\n| 6 | A. | Yes. | | | | |\n| 7 | Q. | How long have you been practicing | | | | |\n| 8 | real estate law? | | | | | |\n| 9 | A. | About 30 years. | | | | |\n| 10 | Q. | How long at Whitman Breed? | | | | |\n| 11 | A. | 30 years. | | | | |\n| 12 | Q. | Congratulations. | | | | |\n| 13 | A. | Thanks. | | | | |\n| 14 | Q. | And how long as a partner there? | | | | |\n| 15 | A. | I don't know, 15, 20 years, | | | | |\n| 16 | | somewhere around there. | | | | |\n| 17 | Q. | Okay. | | | | |\n| 18 | | So you already mentioned it, but you | | | | |\n| 19 | | recall being deposed previously by my colleague | | | | |\n| 20 | | Mr. Luft in February of this year, right? | | | | |\n| 21 | A. | Yes. | | | | |\n| 22 | Q. | So I'm going to have my colleague | | | | |\n| 23 | | introduce that deposition transcript as an | | | | |\n| 24 | exhibit. | | | | | |\n| 25 | | MR. BASSETT:
I think that's our | | | | |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 16 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | | | | | |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|--|--|\n| 2 | Tab 1, Ezra. | | | | | |\n| 3 | MR. SUTTON:
I just shared it in the | | | | | |\n| 4 | chat.
I'll share my screen shortly. | | | | | |\n| 5 | MR. BASSETT:
I would like the court | | | | | |\n| 6 | reporter to please mark this as Conboy | | | | | |\n| 7 | Exhibit 1. | | | | | |\n| 8 | (Conboy Exhibit 1, Conboy Deposition | | | | | |\n| 9 | Transcript from February 21, 2023, marked | | | | | |\n| 10 | for identification.) | | | | | |\n| 11 | BY MR. BASSETT: | | | | | |\n| 12 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, I see this on my screen. | | | | | |\n| 13 | I trust you can see it on yours as well? | | | | | |\n| 14 | A.
Yes. | | | | | |\n| 15 | Q.
And then we also put it in the chat, | | | | | |\n| 16 | which will allow you to download the document | | | | | |\n| 17 | yourself so that you can feel free to navigate | | | | | |\n| 18 | to any page of it that you would like. | | | | | |\n| 19 | A.
Okay. | | | | | |\n| 20 | Q.
Once you're comfortable, my question | | | | | |\n| 21 | is just whether you can confirm that this is, | | | | | |\n| 22 | in fact, as far as you can tell, a copy of the | | | | | |\n| 23 | transcript of your February deposition in this | | | | | |\n| 24 | matter? | | | | | |\n| 25 | A.
It looks like a copy, yup, yes. | | | | | |\n| | | | | | | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 17 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:14\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 Q. Okay. 3 I just wanted to mark that. We'll 4 come back to it later. 5 Ms. Conboy, are you familiar, 6 generally, with Ho Wan Kwok, an individual by 7 that name? 8 A. Not -- no. 9 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 10 BY MR. BASSETT: 11 Q. You've heard of an individual named 12 Ho Wan Kwok, correct? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. And what names? Do you know him by 15 any other names, based on your past 16 professional experience? 17 A. I've never met him and I've never 18 talked to him. So the only name I heard was 19 Miles Kwok. 20 Q. Okay. 21 And you understand that Miles Kwok 22 is the same person as Ho Wan Kwok, who is a 23 debtor in this case? 24 A. I have no personal knowledge of 25 that, but... KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 16\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 18 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n17\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\n10:16\n\n10:16\n\n10:16\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 3 | But you don't have any reason to |\n| 4 | believe that the Miles Kwok you know from your |\n| 5 | professional experience is not the same Miles |\n| 6 | Kwok that is the debtor in this case? |\n| 7 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 8 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 9 | Q.
You can answer the question. |\n| 10 | A.
Can you say that again?
I didn't -- |\n| 11 | Q.
Do you have any reason to believe |\n| 12 | that the Miles Kwok who you know from your |\n| 13 | professional experience is not the same |\n| 14 | personal as Ho Wan Kwok who is the debtor in |\n| 15 | this Chapter 11 case? |\n| 16 | A.
No. |\n| 17 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection.
Form. |\n| 18 | A.
No, I don't. |\n| 19 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 20 | So if I refer to -- I'll try to use |\n| 21 | Mr. Kwok today to refer to Miles Kwok. |\n| 22 | Is that okay with you? |\n| 23 | A.
Yup, yes. |\n| 24 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 25 | MR. MAJOR:
I would like the first |\n| | |\n\n\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 19 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:16\n\n10:16\n\n10:17\n\n10:17\n\n10:17\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | exhibit to be marked highly confidential. |\n| 3 | Contrary to counsel's statement it was not |\n| 4 | publicly filed.
It was filed under seal, |\n| 5 | and we maintain that it contains |\n| 6 | disclosures of privileged information.
I |\n| 7 | would like it marked highly confidential. |\n| 8 | MR. BASSETT:
Okay.
I thought it |\n| 9 | was publicly available, but I will have to |\n| 10 | confirm.
If you are telling me it wasn't, |\n| 11 | then I'll check that. |\n| 12 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 13 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, are you familiar with an |\n| 14 | entity called Greenwich Land LLC? |\n| 15 | A.
Yes. |\n| 16 | Q.
Is this entity -- was this entity a |\n| 17 | client of Whitman Breed's? |\n| 18 | A.
Yes. |\n| 19 | Q.
Were you involved in that |\n| 20 | representation? |\n| 21 | A.
Yes. |\n| 22 | Q.
What was your role? |\n| 23 | A.
I was the real estate attorney for |\n| 24 | that LLC. |\n| 25 | Q.
Okay. |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 20 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | |\n|---|------------|--|\n| 2 | All right. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n\n| Case 22-50073 | Doc 2292-45 | Filed 10/26/23 | Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 | Page 21 |\n|---------------|-------------|----------------|---------------------------|---------|\n| | | of 96 | | |\n\n| Q.
And did you also represent an entity
called Hudson Diamond New York LLC?
When I say
you, I mean your law firm.
A.
Yes.
MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form.
BY MR. BASSETT: | | |\n|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|----------------------------------------|\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | 19 | |\n| | 20 | |\n| | 21 | |\n| | 22 | |\n| | 23 | |\n| | 24 | |\n| | 25 | Q.
I would like my colleague to put |\n| | | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 22 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|---------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Tab 2 on the screen, please. |\n| 3 | (Conboy Exhibit 2, |\n| | marked for |\n| 5 | identification.) |\n| 6 | MR. BASSETT:
And I would like the |\n| 7 | court reporter to please mark this document |\n| 8 | as Exhibit 2, Conboy Exhibit 2. |\n| 9 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 10 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this |\n| 11 | document? |\n| 12 | A. |\n| | |\n| 14 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 15 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 18 | A.
Yes. |\n| 19 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 20 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 25 | Do you see that? |\n| | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 23 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A.
Mh-hm. |\n| 3 | Q. |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 7 | A.
Yes.
Yes. |\n| 8 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 9 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 13 | A.
Yes. |\n| 14 | Q.
Who was your main point of contact |\n| 15 | on the client's side for your firm's |\n| 16 | representation of these entities? |\n| 17 | A.
It was Max Krasner. |\n| 18 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 19 | In the course of this -- of these |\n| 20 | engagements of these entities, did you ever |\n| 21 | speak at any time to Mr. Kwok's wife? |\n| 22 | A.
No. |\n| 23 | Q.
At the time of your earlier |\n| 24 | deposition in February in this case, did you |\n| 25 | know Mr. Kwok's wife's name? |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 24 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A.
No. |\n| 3 | Q.
Have you ever spoken to Mr. Kwok's |\n| 4 | son? |\n| 5 | A.
No. |\n| 6 | Q.
Have you ever spoken to Mr. Kwok's |\n| 7 | daughter? |\n| 8 | A.
No. |\n| 9 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, did you represent |\n| 10 | Greenwich Land and Golden Spring in connection |\n| 11 | with the purchase of residential property |\n| 12 | located at 33 Ferncliff Road in Connecticut? |\n| 13 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection. |\n| 14 | A.
Yes. |\n| 15 | MR. BASSETT:
I would like my |\n| 16 | colleague to put Tab 3 to the chat, please. |\n| 17 | (Conboy Exhibit 3, |\n| | |\n| 19 | WBAM_000035, marked for identification.) |\n| 20 | MR. BASSETT:
I would like the court |\n| 21 | reporter to please mark this as Conboy |\n| 22 | Exhibit 3. |\n| 23 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 24 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this |\n| 25 | document? |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 25 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A.
Yes, I do. |\n| 3 | Q.
And I should have done this before. |\n| 4 | I'll do it now, but just for the record, |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 7 | And at the bottom right-hand corner, |\n| 8 | I believe it starts with the Bates Label |\n| 9 | WBAM_000035. |\n| 10 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 13 | A. |\n| 14 | Q. |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 20 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 21 | A. |\n| 22 | Q. |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 26 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | |\n| | |\n| 4 | A.
Yes, I did. |\n| 5 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 6 | And do you recall approximately the |\n| 7 | date of the -- of the initial purchase of the |\n| 8 | property and then -- well, I'll start with |\n| 9 | that. |\n| 10 | Do you recall the date of the |\n| 11 | initial purchase of the property, |\n| 12 | approximately? |\n| 13 | A.
I don't remember.
Maybe 2020, |\n| 14 | somewhere around there.
I don't remember the |\n| 15 | dates. |\n| 16 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 17 | We can look at documents later. |\n| 18 | And do you recall, off the top of |\n| 19 | your head, the approximate date of the sale? |\n| 20 | A.
Probably 2022. |\n| 21 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 22 | A.
But again, I'm not positive. |\n| 23 | Q.
No problem.
We can look at |\n| 24 | documents there as well. |\n| 25 | So other than -- setting the |\n| | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 27 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:25\n\n10:25\n\n10:25\n\n10:25\n\n10:26\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Ferncliff property to one side, which we just |\n| 3 | established there was a purchase of that |\n| 4 | property and then a sale of it, did you also |\n| 5 | represent the same entities that we've been |\n| 6 | talking about, Greenwich Land, Golden Spring, |\n| 7 | and Hudson Diamond, in connection with |\n| 8 | potential real property purchases that did not |\n| 9 | close? |\n| 10 | A.
Yes. |\n| 11 | Q.
Do you recall which properties there |\n| 12 | were that you looked at on their behalf? |\n| 13 | A.
There was -- |\n| 14 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection.
Form. |\n| 15 | A.
There was a Clapboard Ridge.
There |\n| 16 | was one in Stamford, Chateau Ridge I believe in |\n| 17 | Greenwich.
Those are pretty much about three |\n| 18 | or four -- maybe four that we did. |\n| 19 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 20 | So -- that's fine.
110 Clapboard |\n| 21 | Ridge Road, does that sound right as one of the |\n| 22 | properties? |\n| 23 | A.
Yes. |\n| 24 | Q.
And then how about 32 Chateau Ridge |\n| 25 | Road in Greenwich? |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 28 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A.
Yes. |\n| 3 | Q.
On that one, if you could please |\n| 4 | turn to your deposition transcript which is at |\n| 5 | Tab 1, and I want to take you to page 35 of |\n| 6 | that. |\n| 7 | MR. MAJOR:
I just want to note for |\n| 8 | the record that, as we've insisted, that |\n| 9 | the Exhibit 1 be marked highly |\n| 10 | confidential.
Any portions of the |\n| 11 | transcript referring to that document |\n| 12 | should also be marked highly confidential. |\n| 13 | MR. BASSETT:
Okay.
Well, |\n| 14 | obviously, that's fine under the protective |\n| 15 | order, and we will reserve all of the |\n| 16 | rights that we have under the protective |\n| 17 | order in that regard, but that's fine. |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 29 of 96\n\n| 19
Q.
Do you recall 140 Wallacks Drive in | |\n|------------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 20
Stamford as another property about which there | |\n| 21
was -- there were discussions of a potential | |\n| 22
purchase? | |\n| 23
A.
Yes. | |\n| 24
Q.
How about 66 Sherwood Road in | |\n| 25
Greenwich? | |\n| | |\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 30 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|---|------------------------------------------------|\n| | A.
Yes. |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | Q.
Thank you. |\n| | Back to other properties.
Do you |\n| | recall another property with respect to which |\n| | you provided advice to the entities we've been |\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 31 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | discussing as 11 Hurlingham Drive in Greenwich? |\n| 3 | A.
I don't really remember as much.
I |\n| 4 | don't remember it. |\n| 5 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 6 | I think we might see a document |\n| 7 | later that references that property. |\n| 8 | How about 602 Indian Field Road in |\n| 9 | Greenwich? |\n| 10 | A.
Yes. |\n| 11 | Q.
So do you -- we talked about |\n| 12 | properties with respect to which you provided |\n| 13 | advice under the engagement that we've been |\n| 14 | talking about. |\n| 15 | Do you also recall a transaction |\n| 16 | involving a property at 373 Taconic Road where |\n| 17 | you did not represent Greenwich Land, Golden |\n| 18 | Spring, or Hudson Diamond? |\n| 19 | A.
Yes. |\n| 20 | Q.
What was your involvement in that |\n| 21 | transaction? |\n| 22 | A.
I was representing the seller. |\n| 23 | Q.
Okay. |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 32 of 96\n\n| & ESQUIRE |\n|-----------|\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 33 of 96\n\n5 MR. BASSETT: I would like my 6 colleague to, please, put Tab 4 into the 7 chat. 8 (Conboy Exhibit 4, October 3rd, 9 2019, E-mail Bates labeled WBAM\\_010076, 10 marked for identification.) 11 MR. BASSETT: And this document will 12 be marked as -- I would like it to be 13 marked as Conboy Exhibit 4. And for the 14 record, this is an October 3rd, 2019, 15 e-mail with the Bates label in the bottom 16 right-hand corner WBAM\\_010076. 17 BY MR. BASSETT: 18 Q. Ms. Conboy, these documents that 19 we've been seeing that have a Bates label 20 beginning with WBAM in the lower right-hand 21 corner, do you understand that these are 22 documents Whitman Breed produced from its files 23 to the trustee? 24 A. Yes. 25 Q. And these documents that were\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 34 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:32\n\n10:32\n\n10:33\n\n10:33\n\n10:33\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | produced, are these documents that the firm |\n| 3 | kept in its ordinary course of business? |\n| 4 | A.
Yes. |\n| 5 | Q.
Do you recall -- well, strike that. |\n| 6 | Did you write the e-mail that |\n| 7 | appears here in Conboy Exhibit 4? |\n| 8 | A.
Yes. |\n| 9 | Q.
Who is Kevin Walsh? |\n| 10 | A.
He's our managing partner.
He's a |\n| 11 | partner of mine. |\n| 12 | Q.
And you say -- in the first sentence |\n| 13 | of the e-mail -- Kevin, my client, the Chinese |\n| 14 | billionaire, may purchase 602 Indian Field |\n| 15 | which is the 11-acre vacant parcel at the end |\n| 16 | of Meade's Point. |\n| 17 | Do you see that? |\n| 18 | A.
Yes. |\n| 19 | Q.
Who is the Chinese billionaire to |\n| 20 | whom you are referring to in this e-mail? |\n| 21 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 22 | A.
That was how Miles Kwok was referred |\n| 23 | to in -- when you do a Google search. |\n| 24 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 25 | So when you wrote this e-mail and |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 35 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:33\n\n10:34\n\n10:34\n\n10:34\n\n10:34\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | you used the words \"the Chinese billionaire,\" |\n| 3 | that was a reference to Miles Kwok? |\n| 4 | A.
Yes.
Through Google. |\n| 5 | MR. THOMASON:
Yes-or-no question. |\n| 6 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 7 | Q.
And then you say the -- at the end |\n| 8 | of that sentence you say:
The seller accepted |\n| 9 | his offer of \\$35 million. |\n| 10 | Do you see that? |\n| 11 | A.
Yes. |\n| 12 | Q.
And the word \"his\" there again is a |\n| 13 | reference to the Chinese billionaire, Miles |\n| 14 | Kwok? |\n| 15 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 16 | A.
Yes. |\n| 17 | Q.
In the next sentence you say -- of |\n| 18 | this e-mail, you say:
I do not know if this |\n| 19 | will really go through.
He is meeting with |\n| 20 | architects, engineers, et cetera. |\n| 21 | I want to focus on the word \"he\" |\n| 22 | there.
He is meeting with architects, |\n| 23 | engineers, et cetera.
The \"he,\" again, is a |\n| 24 | reference to the Chinese billionaire, Mr. Kwok, |\n| 25 | right? |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 36 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:34\n\n10:35\n\n10:35\n\n10:35\n\n10:35\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 3 | A.
Yes. |\n| 4 | Q.
And then in the last sentence of |\n| 5 | this e-mail it says:
Apparently, the current |\n| 6 | owner has approval to build two house.
I'm not |\n| 7 | sure if my client will just build one house or |\n| 8 | two.
My client has had me hold off on ordering |\n| 9 | searchs until he has an idea of what is |\n| 10 | involved in building on the parcel. |\n| 11 | Again, consistent with the rest of |\n| 12 | this e-mail, the references to \"my client\" when |\n| 13 | you wrote this e-mail were to the Chinese |\n| 14 | billionaire Miles Kwok, right? |\n| 15 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 16 | A.
Yes. |\n| 17 | Q.
The work that you were performing |\n| 18 | with respect to this potential property |\n| 19 | purchase, this is all work under the umbrella |\n| 20 | of the engagements that we talked about |\n| 21 | previously, right, the Greenwich Land, Hudson |\n| 22 | Diamond, and Golden Spring engagement? |\n| 23 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 24 | A.
Yes. |\n| 25 | Q.
Okay. |\n| | |\n\n\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 37 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:35\n\n10:36\n\n10:36\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 MR. BASSETT: Can my colleague, 3 please, put Tab 5 into the chat. 4 (Conboy Exhibit 5, January 22, 2019, 5 E-mail Bates labeled WBAM\\_0002663, marked 6 for identification.) 7 MR. BASSETT: And this one will be 8 marked as Conboy Exhibit 5; is that 9 correct? Thanks. Sorry. 10 BY MR. BASSETT: 11 Q. So for the record the document being 12 mark as Conboy Exhibit 5, is a January 22, 13 2019, e-mail with the Bates label at the bottom 14 right-hand corner of the first page 15 WBAM\\_0002663. 16 Ms. Conboy, if you look at the 17 e-mail nearest the bottom of this page at 18 2:58 p.m., begins: Hi Kristi. 19 Is that an e-mail that you wrote? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. You say: Hi Kristi, can you order a 22 full title and municipal search for 140 23 Wallacks Drive, Caritas Island, Stamford? 24 Do you see that? 25 A. Yes. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 36\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 38 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\n10:38\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 MR. THOMASON: Can you zoom in just 3 a little bit. 4 THE WITNESS: Yes, it needs to be. 5 MR. BASSETT: Sure. 6 MR. THOMASON: Perfect. 7 BY MR. BASSETT: 8 Q. So you were asking a colleague here 9 to perform a title and municipal search; is 10 that right, for a potential property to be 11 acquired? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. If you go up to the top e-mail in 14 the chain, you say: Hi Bob. 15 Who is Bob? 16 A. Our title searcher. 17 Q. Okay. 18 You said: Hi Bob, I would like you 19 to do the searches because this is a high-end 20 property on the water. The Chinese billionaire 21 has accepted an offer. Thanks. 22 Do you see that? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. And to whom is the Chinese 25 billionaire a reference? KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 37\n\n\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 39 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:38\n\n10:38\n\n10:39\n\n10:39\n\n10:39\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n·\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 A. Mr. Kwok. 3 MR. BASSETT: Can my colleague, 4 please, put Tab 6 on the screen. 5 (Conboy Exhibit 6, January 6, 2019, 6 E-mail, Bates Stamped WBAM\\_002803, marked 7 for identification.) 8 MR. BASSETT: For the record, Conboy 9 Exhibit 6 is an e-mail chain, the top 10 e-mail dated January 6, 2019, Bates stamped 11 at the bottom right-hand corner of the 12 first page WBAM\\_002803. 13 BY MR. BASSETT: 14 Q. If we turn to page Bates labeled 15 2806. 16 What you'll see here is an e-mail 17 from an Emile deNeree to a Barbara Vogt. 18 Do you know who those individuals 19 are? 20 A. I have -- I know Barbara Vogt, but 21 the others I don't know. 22 Q. Well, do you understand that Emile 23 deNeree was acting as a broker for Mr. Kwok? 24 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 25 A. I don't remember. I don't remember KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 800.211.DEPO (3376) 38\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 40 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:40\n\n10:40\n\n10:40\n\n10:40\n\n10:41\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Emile.
I don't remember him. |\n| 3 | Q.
In his e-mail to Barbara Vogt he |\n| 4 | says:
Could you please ask your clients to |\n| 5 | agree to these terms because Miles is ready to |\n| 6 | sign the contract this afternoon as long as his |\n| 7 | attorney receives the acceptable terms for due |\n| 8 | diligence. |\n| 9 | Do you see that? |\n| 10 | A.
Yes. |\n| 11 | Q.
And then after that it says:
Miles |\n| 12 | does not want the extension.
His lawyer is |\n| 13 | just protecting him. |\n| 14 | A.
Yes. |\n| 15 | Q.
All right.
Now, if you scroll up to |\n| 16 | the first page, you were eventually copied on |\n| 17 | this e-mail. |\n| 18 | Do you see that? |\n| 19 | A.
No, I don't see. |\n| 20 | Q.
Go to the top. |\n| 21 | A.
Oh, yup.
I see up top. |\n| 22 | Q.
You having been copied on this |\n| 23 | e-mail and you having represented Golden |\n| 24 | Spring, Hudson Diamond, and Greenwich Land, can |\n| 25 | you tell me what's your recollection of why you |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 41 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | would have been copied on this e-mail? |\n| 3 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 4 | (Multiple speakers.) |\n| 5 | MR. MAJOR:
Calls for speculation. |\n| 6 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 7 | Q.
I'm sorry? |\n| 8 | A.
I didn't write this -- I don't know. |\n| 9 | I don't know why I'm copied on it. |\n| 10 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 11 | Well, if you scroll back down to the |\n| 12 | e-mail we looked at before from Mr. deNeree, to |\n| 13 | the other individual who you said you |\n| 14 | understood was a broker? |\n| 15 | A.
Mh-hm. |\n| 16 | Q.
Mr. deNeree is saying to Ms. Vogt: |\n| 17 | Could you please ask your clients to agree to |\n| 18 | these terms because Miles is ready to sign the |\n| 19 | contract this afternoon as long as his attorney |\n| 20 | receives acceptable terms for due diligence. |\n| 21 | Do you see that? |\n| 22 | A.
Yes. |\n| 23 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 24 | Does it stand to reason that if |\n| 25 | Ms. Vogt was representing the seller in this |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 42 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:42\n\n10:42\n\n10:42\n\n10:42\n\n10:43\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n·\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 potential transaction, that Mr. deNeree was 3 acting as the broker for Mr. Kwok? 4 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 5 Calls for speculation. 6 A. I don't remember Frank -- or 7 whatever -- I'm sorry. Emile, I don't remember 8 him. 9 Q. Do you recall working on this 10 potential transaction? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. And who did you represent in this 13 potential transaction? 14 A. Is this the -- are we still on the 15 Wallacks -- which transaction is this. 16 Q. Yes. I mean, if we -- we can scroll 17 through the whole thing. I believe there is 18 references to Wallacks Road? 19 A. Okay. 20 (Document review.) 21 A. Okay. So what was the question 22 again? 23 Q. I asked if you remember working on 24 this transaction? 25 A. I remember working on Wallacks Road, KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 800.211.DEPO (3376) 41\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 43 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:43\n\n10:43\n\n10:43\n\n10:44\n\n10:44\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 that -- if this is Wallacks Road, then I 3 remember working on it. 4 Q. Okay. 5 If you go back to the e-mail from 6 Mr. deNeree, if you were representing the buyer 7 in this potential transaction, then the 8 reference to the buyer's attorney would be you; 9 would it not? 10 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 11 A. Yes, yes. The buyer's -- 12 Q. And when it says: Miles does not 13 want the extension. His lawyer is just 14 protecting him. 15 His lawyer would be a reference to 16 you; would it not? 17 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 18 A. I didn't write the e-mail, so -- but 19 it sounds like it would -- I don't, you know, I 20 didn't -- I don't know what was in the -- in 21 his -- what he was thinking, but... 22 Q. Are you aware of -- are you aware of 23 Mr. Kwok having had another lawyer represent 24 him in connection with Wallacks Road? 25 A. I don't know. I don't know. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 42\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 44 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:44\n\n10:44\n\n10:45\n\n10:45\n\n10:45\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|---------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q.
You don't -- you are not aware, |\n| 3 | correct? |\n| 4 | A.
I'm not aware, no, no. |\n| 5 | MR. BASSETT:
If I could, please, |\n| 6 | have my colleague put Tab 7 on the screen. |\n| 7 | (Conboy Exhibit 7, July 12, 2019, |\n| 8 | E-mail Chain Bates Labeled WBAM_003873, |\n| 9 | marked for identification.) |\n| 10 | MR. BASSETT:
This document, which I |\n| 11 | will ask to be marked as Conboy Exhibit 7, |\n| 12 | is an e-mail chain beginning with the |\n| 13 | e-mail, the first page dated July 12, 2019, |\n| 14 | and the Bates label in the bottom |\n| 15 | right-hand corner WBAM_00387. |\n| 16 | Do you see that? |\n| 17 | A.
Yes. |\n| 18 | MR. THOMASON:
3873. |\n| 19 | MR. BASSETT:
3873.
Correct. |\n| 20 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 21 | Q.
And then if you would, please, go to |\n| 22 | the first e-mail of the chain on 3875. |\n| 23 | MR. BASSETT:
There's a lot of |\n| 24 | background noise.
I'm not sure where |\n| 25 | that's coming from.
I think it was |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 45 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:46\n\n10:46\n\n10:46\n\n10:46\n\n10:47\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 Chris's. 3 BY MR. BASSETT: 4 Q. If you look at that e-mail, there 5 are two individuals, an e-mail from a Louise 6 Camuto to a Mary Muffin E. Dowdle. 7 Do you see that? 8 A. Yes. 9 Q. Do you understand Ms. Dowdle and 10 Ms. Camuto to be real estate brokers? 11 A. Ms. Dowdle was a real estate broker. 12 I don't know who Ms. Camuto is. So I don't 13 know about her. 14 Q. Do you understand Ms. Dowdle was a 15 broker working for Mr. Kwok? 16 A. Yes. Or -- yes. 17 Q. And this is about a property on chat 18 toe ridge property we had mentioned earlier? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q. This e-mail we are looking by 21 Ms. Camuto is actually addressed to Mr. Kwok 22 and in the first paragraph it says: Dear 23 Miles, thank you for getting back to me. I 24 look forward to concluding and having you move 25 into this amazing place which we love so much KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 44\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 46 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:47\n\n10:47\n\n10:47\n\n10:47\n\n10:48\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY and you seem to love it as much as we do. 3 Do you see that? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. In the second paragraph it says: You have asked that I leave the urns on stands in the living room, the great room. Knowing how much you love them and in the spirit of cooperation, I would like you to have these. And then it says: In return, if you would allow me to keep the set of blue chairs, which have always been mine so I can keep the set of four together. 14 Do you see that? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. Okay. 17 And then in the next paragraph which I will just paraphrase it talks about she's saying to Miles that he has asked for two cabinets or armoires. And then in the paragraph after that -- in the final paragraph it talks about two men who work on the estate, mentions their salaries. And then it concludes by saying: Please let me know if you are interested in assuming these salaries to your KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 45\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 47 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:48\n\n10:48\n\n10:49\n\n10:49\n\n10:49\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | payroll as well. |\n| 3 | Do you see that? |\n| 4 | A.
Yes. |\n| 5 | Q.
And then if we go up to the next |\n| 6 | e-mail above this, Max Krasner whom you said |\n| 7 | was your point of contact on the engagement, |\n| 8 | forwards this to a Yvette Wang and a Karin |\n| 9 | Maistrello. |\n| 10 | And then if you go up, this is |\n| 11 | Yvette Wang writing back to the initial author |\n| 12 | of the first e-mail.
And it says:
Dear |\n| 13 | Louise, thank you for getting back to Miles. |\n| 14 | Kindly forgive him as he does better with oral |\n| 15 | English than written. |\n| 16 | Do you see that? |\n| 17 | A.
Yes. |\n| 18 | Q.
And then it also says:
Miles said |\n| 19 | he exactly shares the same love as you to this |\n| 20 | fabulous home.
He would even hope you could |\n| 21 | come back in the future, share the beautiful |\n| 22 | stories about this place with him.
I believe |\n| 23 | there are a lot. |\n| 24 | Do you see that? |\n| 25 | A.
Yes. |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 48 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:49\n\n10:49\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q.
And then it says:
Miles said he |\n| 3 | appreciates you agree to leave the urns.
He |\n| 4 | does love them very much.
In the same spirit |\n| 5 | of cooperation he would like you to keep the |\n| 6 | set of four blue chairs, plus he even prefers |\n| 7 | you to choose the cabinet which you like most. |\n| 8 | Do you see that? |\n| 9 | A.
Yes. |\n| 10 | Q.
And then the next paragraph starts |\n| 11 | with:
Golden Spring New York Limited, as a |\n| 12 | family office based in Manhattan, we take care |\n| 13 | of Miles and his family's businesses, projects, |\n| 14 | and assets and in the U.S.
GSNY directly will |\n| 15 | directly employ/contract Peter and James with |\n| 16 | the salary as you advised. |\n| 17 | And then it goes on. |\n| 18 | Do you see that? |\n| 19 | A.
Yes. |\n| 20 | Q.
And then, finally, on the last |\n| 21 | paragraph it says:
On behalf of Miles, thank |\n| 22 | you again for having this beautiful home to |\n| 23 | him.
All the best. |\n| 24 | Do you see that? |\n| 25 | A.
Yes. |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 49 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\n10:51\n\n10:51\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q.
And if you go to the e-mail above |\n| 3 | that, this is another e-mail back to Yvette |\n| 4 | Wang. |\n| 5 | MR. BASSETT:
My colleague can |\n| 6 | scroll up. |\n| 7 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 8 | Q.
And, again, this is from Louise |\n| 9 | Camuto to Yvette Wang, copying Max Krasner and |\n| 10 | Karin Maistrello. |\n| 11 | If you scroll down, it says, among |\n| 12 | other things:
I'm so glad Miles will enjoy the |\n| 13 | fabulous urns that are, as you know, quite rare |\n| 14 | and valuable.
They make the room. |\n| 15 | Do you see that? |\n| 16 | A.
Yes. |\n| 17 | Q.
And then in the last paragraph it |\n| 18 | says:
Thank you and Miles, and please keep the |\n| 19 | communication flowing.
I'll be happy to come |\n| 20 | visit him one day when he's all settled in. |\n| 21 | Do you see that? |\n| 22 | A.
Yes. |\n| 23 | Q.
Now, this e-mail, as we already |\n| 24 | established, contains the Bates stamp from your |\n| 25 | law firm on it.
So this means it came from |\n| | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 50 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:51\n\n10:51\n\n10:51\n\n10:52\n\n10:52\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 your files, right? 3 A. Yes. 4 Q. Now, in the course of your -- of the 5 work that you perform on behalf of a buyer in a 6 real estate transaction, for what purpose would 7 you typically receive an e-mail like this that 8 contains details of what a buyer might want to 9 purchase in a home? 10 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 11 A. It would be -- we would have it so 12 that we could put the terms, the different 13 terms that they speak about, in the contract. 14 Q. So you would have used this 15 information to put into a contract for the 16 potential purchase by Mr. Kwok of Chateau 17 Ridge, correct? 18 A. Correct. 19 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 20 BY MR. BASSETT: 21 Q. Again, all of this, the work that 22 you did with respect to the Chateau Ridge 23 property, like all of the work we've been 24 discussing, this was done under the sort of 25 umbrella of the Greenwich Land, Golden Spring, KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 49\n\n\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:52\n\n10:52\n\n10:52\n\n10:53\n\n10:53\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | and Hudson Diamond engagement that we talked |\n| 3 | about? |\n| 4 | A.
Yes. |\n| 5 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 6 | MR. BASSETT:
If I can to -- or have |\n| 7 | my colleague, please, put up the e-mail |\n| 8 | that's -- sorry -- the document that's |\n| 9 | Tab 8. |\n| 10 | (Conboy Exhibit 8, December 15, |\n| 11 | 2020, E-mail Bates Stamped WBAM_0038336, |\n| 12 | marked for identification.) |\n| 13 | MR. BASSETT:
I will have this |\n| 14 | document marked as Conboy Exhibit 8. |\n| 15 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 16 | Q.
And for the record, it's another |\n| 17 | e-mail chain, top e-mail in the chain, dated |\n| 18 | December 15, 2020, Bates stamped at the lower |\n| 19 | right-hand corner of the first page |\n| 20 | WBAM_0038336. |\n| 21 | Ms. Conboy, take your time to look |\n| 22 | at this as necessary, but do you -- as you can |\n| 23 | see, you're copied on the first e-mail in this |\n| 24 | chain as well as the second e-mail and, I |\n| 25 | think, others, if you scroll down. |\n| | |\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 52 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Do you recall what property or |\n| 3 | properties this was in reference to?
The |\n| 4 | subject line is:
MK properties to Hudson |\n| 5 | Diamond New York LLC? |\n| 6 | A.
I don't know which property that is. |\n| 7 | MR. BASSETT:
Go to the next page, |\n| 8 | please.
Next page, please.
Okay. |\n| 9 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 10 | Q.
The -- the e-mail chain does not |\n| 11 | appear to list the name of the property, but |\n| 12 | this is an e-mail exchange between you and Max |\n| 13 | Krasner, at least, at the top; is that correct, |\n| 14 | Ms. Conboy? |\n| 15 | A.
Yes. |\n| 16 | Q.
And so, therefore, to the best of |\n| 17 | your recollection, would this be one of the |\n| 18 | properties that we mentioned on which you |\n| 19 | provided advice under the Greenwich Land, |\n| 20 | Golden Spring, and Hudson Diamond engagement |\n| 21 | using Max Krasner as your point of contact? |\n| 22 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 23 | A.
It's from Max to me.
And he's |\n| 24 | telling us to hold off the -- it had to be |\n| 25 | workup of properties. |\n| | |\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 10:53\n\n10:54\n\n10:54\n\n10:54\n\n10:55\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 53 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q.
What he's saying specifically to you |\n| 3 | is:
I just spoke with Miles, and he advised |\n| 4 | the team he will not move forward on this |\n| 5 | property. |\n| 6 | Do you see that? |\n| 7 | A.
Yes. |\n| 8 | Q.
And you understood that Miles is |\n| 9 | reference to Miles Kwok? |\n| 10 | A.
Yes. |\n| 11 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 12 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 13 | Q.
And the \"he advised\" \"he\" there, |\n| 14 | that would also be a reference to Miles Kwok? |\n| 15 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 16 | A.
That's what he wrote -- that's what |\n| 17 | Max Krasner wrote, so. |\n| 18 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 19 | So we've -- Ms. Conboy, we've seen |\n| 20 | quite a few e-mails today, five or six or so. |\n| 21 | Do you recall seeing these same |\n| 22 | e-mails in your February deposition? |\n| 23 | A.
Yes. |\n| | |\n\n\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 54 of 96\n\n| 2 ESQUIRE |\n|-----------|\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 55 of 96\n\n| & ESQUIRE |\n|-----------|\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 56 of 96\n\n| 2 ESOUIRE |\n|-----------|\n| |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 57 of 96\n\n| 24 | MR. BASSETT:
I would like my |\n|----|---------------------------------------------|\n| 25 | colleague to, please, put our Tab 10, which |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 58 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | is going to be Exhibit 9 into the chat. |\n| 3 | (Conboy Exhibit 9, |\n| | Bates Labeled WBAM_00002, |\n| 5 | marked for identification.) |\n| 6 | MR. BASSETT:
This one is a little |\n| 7 | smaller.
We might need to scroll in a |\n| 8 | little bit more, and then we can just |\n| 9 | direct ourselves to particular lines. |\n| 10 | That's good.
Maybe one out. |\n| 11 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 19 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 20 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this |\n| 21 | document? |\n| 22 | A.
Yes. |\n| 23 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 24 | A.
Yes. |\n| 25 | Q.
Could you tell me what it is, |\n| | |\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|---|-----------|\n| 2 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 61 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A. |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 16 | MR. THOMASON:
You know, I have this |\n| 17 | in hard copy.
Can I show it to her? |\n| 18 | A.
Yes. |\n| 19 | MR. BASSETT:
Yeah, of course. |\n| 20 | (Document review.) |\n| 21 | MR. BASSETT: |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n\n\n| 1 | | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----|-----------------------|\n| 2 | | Do you see that. |\n| 3 | A. | Yup, okay so -- yeah. |\n| 4 | Q. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 9 | | Do you see that? |\n| 10 | A. | Yes. |\n| 11 | Q. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 15 | A. | Yup. |\n| 16 | Q. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n\n\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 63 of 96\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 64 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A.
Mm-hm. |\n| 3 | Q. |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 6 | A.
Yes. |\n| 7 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 8 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 9 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 10 | And now I want to go to the next |\n| 11 | page of this document. |\n| 12 | By the way, Ms. Conboy, does -- what |\n| 13 | we just looked at, does that refresh your |\n| 14 | recollection that the initial purchase of the |\n| 15 | 33 Ferncliff Road property was in August of |\n| 16 | 2019? |\n| 17 | A.
Yes. |\n| 18 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 19 | A.
No, actually it was -- let me |\n| 20 | see the dates. |\n| 21 | (Document review.) |\n| 22 | A.
No.
The closing was -- it wasn't |\n| 23 | August 19th.
Oh, August 2019, yes. |\n| 24 | Q.
Thank you. |\n| 25 | |\n| | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 65 of 96\n\n| 1 | | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------|-----------------------------------|\n| 2 | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 11 | | Do you see that? |\n| 12 | A. | Where is that?
Oh, I see, yup. |\n| 13 | Okay. | |\n| 14 | Q. | Okay. |\n| 15 | | |\n| | | |\n| 18 | A. | Yup. |\n| 19 | Q. | |\n| 21 | | Do you see that? |\n| 22 | A. | Yes. |\n| 23 | Q. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n\n\n\n| 1 | | M. CONBOY |\n|----------|----|------------|\n| 2 | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 7 | Q. | Okay. |\n| 8 | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 12 | A. | Yes. |\n| 13 | Q. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 20 | A. | Yes. |\n| 21
22 | Q. | All right. |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n\n\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | |\n|----------|-----------------------|--|\n| 2 | | |\n| | | |\n| 5 | Do you see that? | |\n| 6 | A.
Yes. | |\n| 7 | Q. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 17 | Do you see that? | |\n| 18
19 | A.
Yes.
Q. | |\n| | | |\n| 21 | A.
I have no idea. | |\n| 22 | Q. | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 68 of 96\n\n| 1 | | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-----------------|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. | Okay. |\n| 3 | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 9 | | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 10 | BY MR. BASSETT: | |\n| 11 | Q. | I didn't hear your answer.
I'm |\n| 12 | sorry. | |\n| 13 | A. | I don't know. |\n| 14 | Q. | How about did the debtor's son, to |\n| 15 | | your knowledge, have any involvement with that |\n| 16 | transaction? | |\n| 17 | | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. |\n| 18 | A. | I don't -- I don't know. |\n| 19 | Q. | You said, again, Mr. Krasner was |\n| 20 | | your point of contact, right? |\n| 21 | A. | Correct. |\n| 22 | Q. | Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you that |\n| 23 | | he needed to get approval from Mr. Kwok's wife |\n| 24 | | prior to making any decisions with respect to |\n| 25 | properties? | |\n| | | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 69 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form.
And |\n| 3 | instruct the witness not to answer on the |\n| 4 | grounds of privilege, to the extent it |\n| 5 | concerned an instruction during the time |\n| 6 | that the witness was representing Greenwich |\n| 7 | Land LLC. |\n| 8 | MR. BASSETT:
Chris, I'm going to |\n| 9 | tell you again, you've waived any |\n| 10 | privilege.
I don't agree that you have the |\n| 11 | privilege. |\n| 12 | And this question in any event, is |\n| 13 | not -- on its face, not calling for any |\n| 14 | attorney-client privileged communications. |\n| 15 | It's a yes-or-no question. |\n| 16 | MR. MAJOR:
Mr. Krasner was an |\n| 17 | officer of Greenwich Land LLC.
You've just |\n| 18 | asked a question about a conversation he |\n| 19 | had with a lawyer representing Greenwich |\n| 20 | Land LLC.
It's a privileged communication, |\n| 21 | and we're instructing the witness not to |\n| 22 | answer on those grounds.
Your argument for |\n| 23 | waiver is wrong. |\n| 24 | We have never waived the privilege. |\n| 25 | In fact, we've asserted the privilege.
We |\n| | |\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 70 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | were not at the prior deposition.
We were |\n| 3 | not given notice or an invitation to the |\n| 4 | prior deposition. |\n| 5 | And Greenwich Land LLC has never |\n| 6 | authorized the Whitman Breed firm to waive |\n| 7 | the privilege.
It's the client's |\n| 8 | privilege.
It's not the lawyer's |\n| 9 | privilege.
And it certainly isn't your |\n| 10 | privilege as the questioning lawyer.
And |\n| 11 | it doesn't matter if there was a prior |\n| 12 | disclosure that was done without the |\n| 13 | knowledge and consent of the client. |\n| 14 | MR. BASSETT:
All right.
I disagree |\n| 15 | with everything you just said.
You have |\n| 16 | had months of opportunity to raise any |\n| 17 | issue with respect to the allegations in |\n| 18 | our complaint which referred to Ms. |\n| 19 | Conboy's testimony, and with respect to the |\n| 20 | testimony itself. |\n| 21 | I also do not -- did -- the fact |\n| 22 | that I am asking about her conversations |\n| 23 | with an officer of the company does not |\n| 24 | render the answer at all privileged.
I'm |\n| 25 | not asking for her to reveal any advice |\n| | |\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:13\n\n11:13\n\n11:13\n\n11:13\n\n11:14\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 71 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:14\n\n11:14\n\n11:14\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | that she gave or any advice that was sought |\n| 3 | from her. |\n| 4 | That's the definition of what it |\n| 5 | requires for a communication to be cloaked |\n| 6 | in the attorney-client privilege. |\n| 7 | The question that I asked, which I |\n| 8 | can have the court reporter read back, |\n| 9 | absolutely did not call for her to divulge |\n| 10 | any privileged communication. |\n| 11 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| 12 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, did Mr. Krasner -- I'm |\n| 13 | not asking for advice you gave to Mr. Krasner |\n| 14 | or for anything Mr. Krasner asked you in terms |\n| 15 | of legal advice.
All I'm asking is if |\n| 16 | Mr. Krasner told you, from a business |\n| 17 | perspective, that he needed to get approval |\n| 18 | from Mr. Kwok's wife prior to making decisions |\n| 19 | with respect to properties? |\n| 20 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form.
And, |\n| 21 | again, instruct the witness not to answer. |\n| 22 | The -- |\n| 23 | MR. BASSETT:
How is that |\n| 24 | privileged? |\n| 25 | MR. MAJOR:
Because you are asking |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 72 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\n11:29\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 about the -- 3 MR. BASSETT: Where's the request 4 for legal advice, Chris? 5 MR. MAJOR: Let's have the question 6 read back, please, or if you want to re-ask 7 it, whatever is faster. 8 BY MR. BASSETT: 9 Q. Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you, from 10 a business perspective, that he needed to get 11 approval from Mr. Kwok's wife prior to making 12 any decisions with respect to properties? 13 MR. MAJOR: Let me just have a quick 14 minute to think this over. I'll be back in 15 a minute. Hold on. 16 MR. BASSETT: Okay. 17 MR. THOMASON: We're going to take a 18 break. That okay, Nick? 19 MR. BASSETT: Sure. 20 (Recess is taken.) 21 MR. MAJOR: Thank you very much 22 everyone for allowing that break. I want 23 to make sure we're being as judicious as 24 possible with this today, so that's why I 25 wanted to just take a minute to consider it KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 71\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 73 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY and confer with a colleague. 3 And I do think that the question calls for privileged communication. I think the privilege is broader than Mr. Bassett has outlined. It's for communications between lawyer and client relating to the provision of legal advice or the provision of legal services. 10 I think in the context of a real estate transaction, the role that Ms. Conboy played is uniquely legal in nature. The, you know, strictly business discussions, those are happening with the broker. A real estate lawyer involved in a closing on a residential loan like this -- residential sale like this is brought in at the time that legal services are needed, for example, preparation or a contract and so forth. 21 And so I think that the conversations that Ms. Conboy had with the -- an officer of Greenwich Land LLC is privileged, and therefore we're going to assert the privilege to this question. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 72\n\n> 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n11:29\n\n11:29\n\n11:29\n\n11:30\n\n11:30\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 74 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. BASSETT:
So thanks for that, |\n| 3 | Chris.
I don't think that is an accurate |\n| 4 | articulation of the law or a correct |\n| 5 | application of it.
The question that I |\n| 6 | asked was simply a question about who at |\n| 7 | the client would approve transactions or |\n| 8 | decisions in connection with transactions. |\n| 9 | That is not privileged. |\n| 10 | Moreover throughout the entire |\n| 11 | deposition today, I have been asking |\n| 12 | Ms. Conboy about her communications with |\n| 13 | Mr. Krasner, including showing those |\n| 14 | communications.
Some of those |\n| 15 | communications have indicated where |\n| 16 | Mr. Krasner was telling her that Mr. Kwok |\n| 17 | was deciding not to purchase a property, |\n| 18 | for example. |\n| 19 | That is absolutely no different than |\n| 20 | what I'm now asking.
There are already -- |\n| 21 | there's already testimony in the record |\n| 22 | about Mr. Kwok making decisions on behalf |\n| 23 | of the client.
All I'm asking is if she |\n| 24 | ever was told that, instead of Mr. Kwok, |\n| 25 | his wife needed to make decisions.
So |\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:30\n\n73\n\n11:30\n\n11:31\n\n11:31\n\n11:31\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 75 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | that's fair game.
And it's -- the door has |\n| 3 | been opened.
Any privilege you may have |\n| 4 | had has been waived throughout the day |\n| 5 | today. |\n| 6 | If you are going to stand on that |\n| 7 | objection, we'll reserve our rights, take |\n| 8 | it up with the Court, if necessary. |\n| 9 | MR. MAJOR:
We are going to stand on |\n| 10 | the objection.
And just to be clear, you |\n| 11 | know, it's a disingenuous argument to try |\n| 12 | to claim that there's been -- |\n| 13 | MR. BASSETT:
Hey Avi, put your |\n| 14 | phone on mute.
Sorry. |\n| 15 | MR. MAJOR:
-- that there's been a |\n| 16 | waiver today at the deposition because we |\n| 17 | didn't object to you asking questions about |\n| 18 | Mr. Kwok.
We do not represent Mr. Kwok. |\n| 19 | Greenwich Land did not own or transact for |\n| 20 | the properties that you are asking |\n| 21 | questions about.
Here, you are talking |\n| 22 | about a property that Greenwich Land LLC |\n| 23 | was the owner of.
Max Krasner, as you |\n| 24 | know, is an officer of Greenwich Land, and |\n| 25 | he was having communications with Greenwich |\n| | |\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:31\n\n74\n\n11:31\n\n11:32\n\n11:32\n\n11:32\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 76 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\nKWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | | | | |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|--|\n| 2 | Land's lawyer about a transaction involving | | | | |\n| 3 | a property owned by Greenwich Land, and | | | | |\n| 4 | that's why we appropriately objected. | | | | |\n| 5 | MR. BASSETT:
All right.
I'm not | | | | |\n| 6 | asking about any particular transaction, to | | | | |\n| 7 | be clear.
The question was:
In the course | | | | |\n| 8 | of the engagement did Mr. Krasner ever tell | | | | |\n| 9 | you, from a business perspective, he needed | | | | |\n| 10 | to get approval from Mr. Kwok's wife prior | | | | |\n| 11 | to making any decisions with respect to | | | | |\n| 12 | properties?
I wasn't asking about a | | | | |\n| 13 | particular transaction or property. | | | | |\n| 14 | MR. MAJOR:
Yeah, so look, if the | | | | |\n| 15 | witness and her firm are comfortable that | | | | |\n| 16 | they can delineate the representations, and | | | | |\n| 17 | you want to limit your question to a | | | | |\n| 18 | nonGreenwich Land LLC representation, then | | | | |\n| 19 | I don't think we would have an objection. | | | | |\n| 20 | Because we only represent Greenwich Land | | | | |\n| 21 | and Ms. Guo, who is named in the complaint | | | | |\n| 22 | as Hing Chi Ngok, and I don't represent | | | | |\n| 23 | anybody else.
So I can only assert | | | | |\n| 24 | privilege on behalf of those two. | | | | |\n| 25 | And so again, though, the way you've | | | | |\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:32\n\n75\n\n11:33\n\n11:33\n\n11:33\n\n11:33\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 77 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | | | |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|--|--|--|\n| 2 | asked questions, trying to lump the | | | |\n| 3 | entities together, I've been objecting to | | | |\n| 4 | the form of the question because it's | | | |\n| 5 | improper.
But you are trying to make it | | | |\n| 6 | sound like, you know, Greenwich Land was no | | | |\n| 7 | different than the other entities in your | | | |\n| 8 | questions. | | | |\n| 9 | I don't know, since the witness, you | | | |\n| 10 | know, was previously deposed without our | | | |\n| 11 | involvement, I don't know if the witness is | | | |\n| 12 | able to delineate between the | | | |\n| 13 | representations that you've been grouping | | | |\n| 14 | together -- together.
I don't agree that | | | |\n| 15 | they are grouped together at all, but | | | |\n| 16 | that's the way you've decided to ask your | | | |\n| 17 | questions.
Which I think makes it a little | | | |\n| 18 | thornier when you go to ask a general | | | |\n| 19 | question like this, which is why we're also | | | |\n| 20 | objecting to the form of the question.
But | | | |\n| 21 | that's -- you know, that's just for | | | |\n| 22 | purposes of the record so we can deal with, | | | |\n| 23 | you know, what will be confusing testimony | | | |\n| 24 | later on. | | | |\n| 25 | But as to Greenwich Land, any | | | |\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:34\n\n11:34\n\n11:34\n\n11:34\n\n11:34\n\nYVer1f\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 78 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | | | | |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|--|\n| 2 | communications that Ms. Conboy had with an | | | | |\n| 3 | officer of Greenwich Land about the | | | | |\n| 4 | execution of a real estate transaction | | | | |\n| 5 | concerning property owned by Greenwich | | | | |\n| 6 | Land, we are going to stand on our | | | | |\n| 7 | objection. | | | | |\n| 8 | BY MR. BASSETT: | | | | |\n| 9 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, you testified before | | | | |\n| 10 | that you represented Greenwich Land, Golden | | | | |\n| 11 | Spring, and Hudson Diamond New York as part of | | | | |\n| 12 | the same engagement. | | | | |\n| 13 | Do you recall that? | | | | |\n| 14 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form. | | | | |\n| 15 | A.
I -- can you say the question again, | | | | |\n| 16 | please. | | | | |\n| 17 | MR. BASSETT:
Could the court | | | | |\n| 18 | reporter read it back, please? | | | | |\n| 19 | (Question was read back as follows: | | | | |\n| 20 | \"QUESTION:
Ms. Conboy, you | | | | |\n| 21 | testified before that you represented | | | | |\n| 22 | Greenwich Land, Golden Spring, and Hudson | | | | |\n| 23 | Diamond New York as part of the same | | | | |\n| 24 | engagement. | | | | |\n| 25 | Do you recall that?\") | | | | |\n| | | | | | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 79 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:36\n\n11:36\n\n11:36\n\n11:36\n\n11:37\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | | | | |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|--|--|--|--|\n| 2 | A.
Yes. | | | | |\n| 3 | Q.
Ms. Conboy, in your communications | | | | |\n| 4 | with Mr. Krasner, were you ever delineating | | | | |\n| 5 | between Greenwich Land, Golden Spring, and | | | | |\n| 6 | Hudson Diamond in the course of those | | | | |\n| 7 | communications? | | | | |\n| 8 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form.
And | | | | |\n| 9 | I just caution the witness that she not | | | | |\n| 10 | reveal attorney-client privileged | | | | |\n| 11 | communications relating to Greenwich Land, | | | | |\n| 12 | but I think the question can be answered | | | | |\n| 13 | without stepping over that line. | | | | |\n| 14 | MR. THOMASON:
It sounds like a | | | | |\n| 15 | yes-or-no question, correct? | | | | |\n| 16 | MR. BASSETT:
It is a yes-or-no. | | | | |\n| 17 | MR. THOMASON:
I think an answer to | | | | |\n| 18 | that to -- either in the affirmative or the | | | | |\n| 19 | negative wouldn't reveal privileged | | | | |\n| 20 | information; is that right, Chris? | | | | |\n| 21 | MR. MAJOR:
Yes, that was my point. | | | | |\n| 22 | MR. THOMASON:
So if you can answer | | | | |\n| 23 | that question in the affirmative or the | | | | |\n| 24 | negative, you can do that.
If you can't -- | | | | |\n| 25 | you require -- it feels, you know, more -- | | | | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 80 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:37\n\n11:37\n\n11:37\n\n11:37\n\n11:38\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 THE WITNESS: Then -- okay. 3 A. So the question is if I delineated 4 between -- 5 MR. THOMASON: The different 6 entities. 7 A. -- the different entities. And 8 I'm -- I don't -- I'm not understanding what 9 that even means, if I delineated between the 10 different entities. I don't understand the 11 question. 12 Q. Well, when you took intersection 13 from Mr. Krasner and you had conversations with 14 Mr. Krasner, were you ever -- were you always 15 communicating with him as a representative on 16 behalf of all three entities or were you at 17 times drawing distinctions between which entity 18 he was communicating on behalf of? 19 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 20 A. I'll -- yes, all three entities. 21 Yes. 22 Q. So when you had communications with 23 him he was, in your mind, communicating on 24 behalf of all three entities? 25 A. Yes. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 79\n\n\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 81 of 96\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|---|--------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. MAJOR:
Objection to form.
And |\n| 3 | also I'd caution the witness not to reveal |\n| 4 | attorney-client privileged communications. |\n| 5 | MR. BASSETT:
All right.
I don't |\n| 6 | think there's any confusion at this point. |\n| 7 | BY MR. BASSETT: |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 82 of 96\n\n| 24 | MR. THOMASON:
Is that all for the |\n|----|--------------------------------------|\n| | |\n| 25 | witness? |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 83 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:40\n\n11:40\n\n11:41\n\n11:41\n\n11:41\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. MAJOR:
I'm going to have some |\n| 3 | questions for the witness. |\n| 4 | MR. THOMASON:
That's fine. |\n| 5 | EXAMINATION BY |\n| 6 | MR. MAJOR: |\n| 7 | Q.
Good morning, Ms. Conboy.
My name |\n| 8 | is Chris Major.
My partner Austin Kim is also |\n| 9 | on.
We're representing Greenwich Land LLC and |\n| 10 | Ms. Guo, who is named in the complaint in this |\n| 11 | adversary proceeding as a Hing Chi Ngok. |\n| 12 | And have you had a chance to review |\n| 13 | the complaint in this adversary proceeding? |\n| 14 | A.
No. |\n| 15 | Q.
When was the first time that you |\n| 16 | were contacted by the Chapter 11 trustee in |\n| 17 | this in re Kwok bankruptcy matter? |\n| 18 | A.
It was at least -- I want to say at |\n| 19 | least six months ago.
Maybe more. |\n| 20 | Q.
Do you know the name of the |\n| 21 | Chapter 11 trustee in this bankruptcy case? |\n| 22 | A.
I don't remember. |\n| 23 | Q.
Do you recall who contacted you on |\n| 24 | behalf of the trustee? |\n| 25 | A.
Well, first a client called me.
And |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 84 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:42\n\n11:42\n\n11:42\n\n11:42\n\n11:43\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | then the -- I guess it was the trustee himself, |\n| 3 | the partner. |\n| 4 | Q.
Was it Luc Despins? |\n| 5 | A.
Yes. |\n| 6 | Q.
And he contacted you by phone? |\n| 7 | A.
I think maybe first by e-mail and |\n| 8 | then -- I did talk to him by phone. |\n| 9 | Q.
Did anyone from your firm join you |\n| 10 | when you spoke with Mr. Despins by phone? |\n| 11 | A.
I don't remember. |\n| 12 | Q.
And what did Mr. Despins say to you |\n| 13 | during that phone call? |\n| 14 | A.
Initially, he was asking if it's -- |\n| 15 | about sending the binder for -- for 373 |\n| 16 | Taconic.
It was initially regarding the |\n| 17 | Taconic -- and I represented the seller, so we |\n| 18 | had to get waivers and that was the initial |\n| 19 | discussion. |\n| 20 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 21 | And did you deliver the file for 373 |\n| 22 | Taconic to Mr. Despins? |\n| 23 | A.
I believe what happened was my |\n| 24 | client, who was the seller, was friends with |\n| 25 | the attorney, the trustee.
And he sent them |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 85 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:43\n\n11:43\n\n11:44\n\n11:44\n\n11:44\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | the documents.
I didn't send them. |\n| 3 | Q.
Do you recall the name of your |\n| 4 | client on that transaction? |\n| 5 | A.
Augustine, Mr. Augustine. |\n| 6 | Q.
Did you deliver any documents to |\n| 7 | Mr. Despins or any of his colleagues at Paul |\n| 8 | Hastings? |\n| 9 | A.
I don't remember.
I don't know. |\n| 10 | Then our litigators took over.
Or Jim Riley, |\n| 11 | Michael, they took over.
So I didn't have -- |\n| 12 | after that -- after Mr. Augustine sending the |\n| 13 | documents, then I had no other contact with |\n| 14 | them. |\n| 15 | Q.
Okay. |\n| 16 | Did you have any further |\n| 17 | conversations with Mr. Despins after that |\n| 18 | initial phone call? |\n| 19 | A.
I don't remember. |\n| 20 | Q.
Do you still have the e-mail that |\n| 21 | you received from Mr. Despins? |\n| 22 | A.
I don't know. |\n| 23 | Q.
Did you have further e-mail |\n| 24 | communications with Mr. Despins after the |\n| 25 | initial phone call that you had? |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 86 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:44\n\n11:44\n\n11:45\n\n11:45\n\n11:45\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A.
I don't remember. |\n| 3 | Q.
Did you have communications with any |\n| 4 | other lawyers at Paul Hastings in connection |\n| 5 | with this bankruptcy, other than Mr. Despins? |\n| 6 | A.
I don't remember. |\n| 7 | Q.
Have you ever spoken with |\n| 8 | Mr. Bassett before today? |\n| 9 | A.
No. |\n| 10 | Q.
Other than your deposition in -- |\n| 11 | under Rule 2004, which has been -- some of the |\n| 12 | pages have been shown today, have you had any |\n| 13 | conversations with Avi Luft of Paul Hastings? |\n| 14 | A.
No, not since that deposition.
I |\n| 15 | only had the deposition. |\n| 16 | Q.
What did you tell Mr. Despins on the |\n| 17 | phone call when he asked for the closing file? |\n| 18 | MR. BASSETT:
Objection to form. |\n| 19 | A.
That I had to check with my client |\n| 20 | and see if he was agreeable, if -- I would have |\n| 21 | to get his consent. |\n| 22 | Q.
And going back to the Ferncliff Road |\n| 23 | property, do you know whether your firm |\n| 24 | provided any documents relating to that |\n| 25 | property to the trustee or any of the lawyers |\n| | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 87 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:46\n\n11:46\n\n11:47\n\n11:47\n\n11:48\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | representing the trustee at -- whether it would |\n| 3 | be at his law firm or a law firm in Connecticut |\n| 4 | called Neubert, Pepe & Monteith? |\n| 5 | A.
I don't know. |\n| 6 | Q.
Did you -- withdrawn. |\n| 7 | Have you ever spoken to the person |\n| 8 | who Mr. Bassett was referring to as Mr. Kwok? |\n| 9 | A.
No. |\n| 10 | Q.
Have you ever met him? |\n| 11 | A.
No. |\n| 12 | Q.
In connection with the 373 Taconic |\n| 13 | Road property transaction, did you do any |\n| 14 | diligence as to the source of funds that were |\n| 15 | used to purchase in that instance your client's |\n| 16 | former -- now former home at 373 Taconic Road? |\n| 17 | A.
No. |\n| 18 | MR. BASSETT:
Objection. |\n| 19 | BY MR. MAJOR: |\n| 20 | Q.
Do you know who the member of |\n| 21 | Greenwich Land LLC is, or members? |\n| 22 | A.
No. |\n| 23 | Q.
Do you know the source of funds that |\n| 24 | were used to purchase your client's now former |\n| 25 | home at 373 Taconic Road? |\n\n\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 88 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:48\n\n11:49\n\n11:49\n\n11:49\n\n11:50\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY | |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2 | MR. BASSETT:
Object to form. | |\n| 3 | A.
No. | |\n| 4 | Q.
Do you know who lives in the house | |\n| 5 | at 373 Taconic Road in Greenwich, Connecticut? | |\n| 6 | A.
No. | |\n| 7 | Q.
I'm limiting this question to 373 | |\n| 8 | Taconic Road in Greenwich, Connecticut, where | |\n| 9 | you represented the seller. | |\n| 10 | Were you ever a witness to any | |\n| 11 | deliberations by the purchaser about acquiring | |\n| 12 | that property? | |\n| 13 | MR. BASSETT:
Objection to form. | |\n| 14 | A.
No. | |\n| 15 | Q.
Do you recall the name of the buyer | |\n| 16 | of the property at 373 Taconic Road? | |\n| 17 | A.
I don't remember.
I don't remember. | |\n| 18 | Q.
Do you remember the purchase price? | |\n| 19 | A.
I don't remember. | |\n| 20 | Q.
You said that your client was | |\n| 21 | friends with Mr. Despins. | |\n| 22 | How did you learn that? | |\n| 23 | A.
My client e-mailed me and -- my | |\n| 24 | client e-mailed me and said that he had -- | |\n| 25 | Mr. Despins had called my client, and my client | |\n| | | |\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 89 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:50\n\n11:50\n\n12:05\n\n12:05\n\n12:06\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 said they were good friends. 3 MR. MAJOR: Why don't we go off the 4 record for a couple minutes. I just want 5 to confer with a colleague and check some 6 notes and then hopefully we can come back, 7 and I'll have a few more questions and then 8 I'll wrap up. 9 MR. BASSETT: Okay. 10 (Recess is taken.) 11 MR. MAJOR: Thank you, Ms. Conboy, 12 and Counsel for giving me a few minutes. I 13 just have a very few questions left. 14 BY MR. MAJOR: 15 Q. Mr. Bassett and his colleague 16 post -- published over this Zoom an e-mail 17 which referred to a Chinese billionaire. 18 Did you ever meet or speak with the 19 Chinese billionaire? 20 A. No. 21 Q. Did that Chinese billionaire ever 22 sign an engagement letter with your firm? 23 A. No. 24 Q. Did Mr. Kwok ever sign an engagement 25 letter with your firm? KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 88\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 90 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY 2 MR. BASSETT: Objection. Form. 3 A. The entities -- I have my engagement 4 letters are with the entities. 5 Q. My question is just whether Mr. Kwok 6 was ever a signatory on an engagement letter 7 with your firm? 8 A. No. 9 MR. MAJOR: We have no further 10 questions at this time. 11 MR. BASSETT: And I have no 12 follow-up. 13 THE COURT REPORTER: Anything else? 14 MR. THOMASON: No. 15 THE COURT REPORTER: Thank you. 16 Chris, do you need a rough draft of 17 the transcript and/or a copy? 18 MR. MAJOR: I'd like a copy, but we 19 don't need a rough draft. And if we could 20 have a mini as well. 21 MR. THOMASON: Are you going to have 22 her read and sign? I was thinking. Do you 23 feel like you need the opportunity to 24 review the transcript to check for 25 everything or do you feel confident? KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 89\n\n> 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n12:06\n\n12:06\n\n12:07\n\nYVer1f\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 91 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | THE WITNESS:
No. |\n| 3 | MR. THOMASON:
So no, I would |\n| 4 | appreciate a courtesy copy that I don't |\n| 5 | have to pay for.
If that's not possible |\n| 6 | then, you know, I don't need a copy. |\n| 7 | MR. BASSETT:
I believe -- so, I'm |\n| 8 | just trying to think of -- what's standard |\n| 9 | delivery, again? |\n| 10 | THE COURT REPORTER:
It is eight |\n| 11 | business days, but if you need it sooner, |\n| 12 | I'm happy to do that for you.
And you |\n| 13 | never said if you wanted a rough draft or |\n| 14 | not. |\n| 15 | MR. BASSETT:
I don't think we need |\n| 16 | it.
If we -- if somebody on my team tells |\n| 17 | me that I made the wrong decision, I will |\n| 18 | e-mail you. |\n| 19 | (Continued on the following page to |\n| 20 | include jurat.) |\n| 21 | |\n| 22 | |\n| 23 | |\n| 24 | |\n| 25 | |\n| | |\n| | |\n\n·\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nYVer1f\n\n12:07\n\n12:08\n\n12:08\n\n# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 92 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n12:08\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential\n\n| 1 | M. CONBOY |\n|----|-----------------------------------------|\n| 2 | THE COURT REPORTER:
Okay.
Thank |\n| 3 | you. |\n| 4 | MR. BASSETT:
Thank you very much, |\n| 5 | Ms. Conboy.
I appreciate it. |\n| 6 | THE WITNESS:
Thank you. |\n| 7 | (Time Noted:
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) | |\n| 6 | | |\n| 7 | I, LISA M. MURACO, a Notary Public | |\n| 8 | within and for the State of New York, | |\n| 9 | Florida, and Massachusetts, do hereby | |\n| 10 | certify: | |\n| 11 | That MARGARET CONBOY, the witness | |\n| 12 | whose deposition is hereinbefore set forth, | |\n| 13 | was duly sworn by me and that such | |\n| 14 | deposition is a true record of the | |\n| 15 | testimony given by such witness. | |\n| 16 | I further certify that I am not | |\n| 17 | related to any of the parties to this | |\n| 18 | action by blood or marriage; and that I am | |\n| 19 | in no way interested in the outcome of this | |\n| 20 | matter. | |\n| 21 | IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto | |\n| 22 | set my hand this 13th day of September, | |\n| 23 | 2023. | |\n| 24 | ------------------------- | |\n| 25 | LISA M. MURACO | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 94 of 96\n\n| 1 | | |\n|----|--------------------------------------|------|\n| 2 | I N D E X | |\n| 3 | | |\n| 4 | WITNESS | PAGE |\n| 5 | MARGARET CONBOY | |\n| 6 | MR. BASSETT | 6 |\n| 7 | MR. MAJOR | 82 |\n| 8 | | |\n| 9 | E X H I B I T S | |\n| 10 | DESCRIPTION | PAGE |\n| 11 | Conboy Exhibit 1, Conboy Deposition | 15 |\n| | Transcript from February 21, 2023 | |\n| 12 | | |\n| 13 | | |\n| | Conboy Exhibit 2, | |\n| | | |\n| 15 | | |\n| 16 | Conboy Exhibit 3, | |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 18 | | |\n| 19 | Conboy Exhibit 4, October 3rd, 2019, | 32 |\n| | E-mail Bates labeled WBAM_010076 | |\n| 20 | | |\n| 21 | | |\n| | Conboy Exhibit 5, January 22, 2019, | 36 |\n| 22 | E-mail Bates labeled WBAM_0002663 | |\n| 23 | | |\n| 24 | Conboy Exhibit 6, January 6, 2019, | 38 |\n| | E-mail, Bates Stamped WBAM_002803 | |\n| 25 | | |\n| | | |\n\n\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 95 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023\n\nKWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n1 2 I N D E X O F E X H I B I T S(Cont'd.) 3 DESCRIPTION PAGE 4 Conboy Exhibit 7, July 12, 2019, E-mail 43 Chain Bates Labeled WBAM\\_003873 5 6 Conboy Exhibit 8, December 15, 2020, 50 7 E-mail Bates Stamped WBAM\\_0038336 8 9 Conboy Exhibit 9, Whitman Breed Trustee 57 Ledger, Bates Labeled WBAM\\_00002 10 11 12 QUESTIONS INSTRUCTED NOT TO ANSWER 13 Page Line 14 68 2 68 21 15 70 20 80 25 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 800.211.DEPO (3376)\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\n94\n\n\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 96 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· Confidential KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.\n\n| ERRATA SHEET FOR THE TRANSCRIPT OF: | | | | |\n|--------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|\n| 3
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MY COMMISSION EXPIRES:_______ | | | | |\n\n","body_zh":"证物45\n\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第2页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 KWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治地产）等 2023年9月12日 1\n\n2023年9月12日，星期二，上午10:00，于远程方式，通过ZOOM举行对MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）的证言记录，由纽约州、佛罗里达州及马萨诸塞州公证人LISA M. MURACO（丽莎·M·穆拉科）主持。MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 KWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治地产）等 2023年9月12日 800.211.DEPO (3376)\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n出庭人员：\n（远程）\n\nPAUL HASTINGS（保罗·黑斯廷斯律师事务所）\n动议方及交叉被申请人之代理律师\nLuc A. Despins（卢克·A·德斯平斯）先生，Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）财产的Chapter 11 Trustee（第11章受托人）\n200 Park Avenue\nNew York NY 10166\n代理律师：NICHOLAS BASSETT（尼古拉斯·巴塞特），ESQ.\nNicholasbassett@paulhastings.com\nAVRAM LUFT（阿夫拉姆·卢夫特），ESQ.\nAviluft@paulhastings.com\nEZRA SUTTON（埃兹拉·萨顿），ESQ.\nEzrasutton@paulhastings.com\nDOUGLASS BARRON（道格拉斯·巴伦），ESQ.\nDouglassbarron@paulhastings.com\nLUYI SONG（宋露易），ESQ.\nLuyisong@paulhastings.com\n\nKWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等 3\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第5页，共96页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n出庭人员：\n（远程）\n\nMEISTER SEELIG & FEIN（迈斯特·西利格与范恩律师事务所）\n被告Greenwich LLC（格林尼治有限责任公司）及Hing Chi Ngok（邢志岳）之代理律师\n125 Park Avenue\n7th Floor\nNew York, NY 10017\n代理律师：CHRISTOPHER MAJOR（克里斯托弗·梅杰），ESQ.\nCjm@msf-law.com\nAUSTIN KIM（金奥斯汀），ESQ.\nAdk@msf-law.com\n\nWHITMAN BREED ABBOTT & MORGAN（惠特曼·布里德·阿博特与摩根律师事务所）\n证人之代理律师\n500 West Putnam Avenue\nGreenwich CT 06830\n代理律师：MICHAEL THOMASON（迈克尔·托马森），ESQ.\nMthomason@wbamct.com\n\nKWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等 4\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第6页，共96页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\nYVer1f\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 KWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等\n\n兹由本案各方代理律师约定并同意，免除提交及密封。\n\n进一步约定并同意，除对问题形式提出的异议外，所有异议均保留至审判时提出。\n\n进一步约定并同意，本证言记录可在任何获授权主持宣誓的官员面前宣誓并签署，其效力与在法院面前签署并宣誓相同。\n\n- oOo -\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:05\n\n10:05\n\n10:05\n\n10:06\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY\n\nM A R G A R E T\nC O N B O Y，被传唤为证人，经公证人依法宣誓后，接受询问并作证如下：\n\nBASSETT先生询问：\n\n问：非常感谢。\n\nMAJOR先生：尼克，在我们开始之前，我们能否同意采用通常的约定，包括除对问题形式提出的异议外，其他异议均予保留？\n\nTHOMASON先生：那是康涅狄格州通常的约定。\n\nBASSETT先生：我不同意采用通常的约定，因为我不知道那是什么。\n\nMAJOR先生：我们就把它们确定下来。我认为，最重要的一项，为了便于进行证言记录并确保我们能够完成，就是除对问题形式提出的异议外，其他异议均予保留。所以，你知道，如果我对问题形式有异议，我就提出异议，仅此而已。\n\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第8页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 2023年9月12日\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n这样我们就无需处理所有那些——你知道，大量诸如传闻之类的异议。那些可以以后处理。\n\nBASSETT先生：我对此没有意见。我认为规则就是如此规定的。\n\nMAJOR先生：是的。\n\nBASSETT先生：我的意思是，我不想——我不同意所谓的、我并不熟悉的通常约定。但如果我们都同意《联邦民事诉讼规则》和《联邦证据规则》适用于本案，我对此没有问题。\n\nMAJOR先生：异议予以保留，因此我们现在无需提出。\n\nBASSETT先生：再说一次，我认为——克里斯，我认为规则对此已有规定，但是……\n\nMAJOR先生：是的，然后我只是想代表我们的客户Greenwich Land声明，我们正在维持律师—当事人特权，\n\nKWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等 7\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n10:06\n\n10:06\n\n10:06\n\n10:06\n\n10:07\n\nYVer1f\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第9页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 2023年9月12日\n\nKWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n因此，证人或其律所与Greenwich Land LLC管理人员之间的沟通受特权保护；心理印象、推测以及基于该等沟通的任何内容亦受特权保护，包括但不限于已向受托人作出的任何披露，无论是在2004审查中还是在单独沟通中作出的。该等披露并非经授权对受律师—当事人特权保护之沟通作出的披露，因此，我们要求证人及其律师不要就她与Greenwich Land LLC管理人员之间的任何沟通，或证人因与Greenwich Land LLC管理人员沟通而形成或得出的任何心理印象或推测作证。\n\nBASSETT先生：那么，克里斯，你看过本案的2004证言记录誊本，对吗？\n\nMAJOR先生：当你说“本案”时，我不知道你是否——我假定你指的是康博伊女士的\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n10:07\n\n10:07\n\n10:07\n\n10:08\n\n10:08\n\nYVer1f\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第10页，共96页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:08\n\n10:08\n\n10:08\n\n10:09\n\n10:09\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n证言记录誊本？\n\nBASSETT先生：是。\n\nMAJOR先生：是，它是起诉状的附件。\n\nBASSETT先生：对。如果你的意思是，现在你们首次要就例如我们向康博伊女士提出的、有关她与Max Krasner（马克斯·克拉斯纳）等人沟通的文件的所有问题主张特权，而我们将不能询问这些问题，那么我们就有严重问题，而且你们本应在今天的证言记录之前告诉我们这一点。\n\nMAJOR先生：嗯，我们没有被邀请参加2004审查。这是我们首次就该证人出庭。我们主张律师—当事人特权，范围限于她将就其与管理人员之间的沟通作证的部分。而且我不知道——\n\n（多名发言人同时讲话。）\n\nBASSETT先生：嗯——克里斯，你——只需说，\n\nKWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第11页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 2023年9月12日\n\nKWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n你们早已放弃了主张我们起诉状中所载且作为附件附于已公开提交的证言记录誊本中的信息属于特权信息的任何论点。如果你们有这种看法，几个月前就应当提出。所以我不会——我甚至不会考虑这一论点。不过，我们为什么不——我们为什么不开始，然后看看进展如何。如果到了你不让我以我所需的方式进行本次证言记录的地步，我们就要休庭，并且要弄清楚这个问题。\n\nMAJOR先生：好的。这不是供你考虑的论点。Greenwich Land拥有该特权。\n\nBASSETT先生：而且你们已放弃该特权，克里斯。\n\nMAJOR先生：不。没有。我们没有参与其中。\n\nBASSETT先生：好吧。我们就——好吧，我们——我们就开始，看看进展如何。\n\nMAJOR先生：而且我不知道什么\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 10:09\n10:09\n\n10:09\n\n10:10\n\n10:10\n\nYVer1f\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第12页，共96页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:10\n\n10:10\n\n10:10\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n你或受托人的其他代表对Whitman Breed说了什么，以促成那些沟通，但你知道，特权属于Greenwich Land LLC。那不是受托人可以决定的事，也不是供你考虑的事。\n\nBASSETT先生：好吧。嗯，我不同意其中任何一点，但如我所说，我们继续。\n\nBASSETT先生继续询问：\n\n问：好的。康博伊女士，抱歉刚才岔开了话题。\n\n答：没关系。\n\n问：你我此前没有幸会过，不过再说一次，我是保罗·黑斯廷斯律师事务所的尼克·巴塞特。我们是郭文贵破产案件中第11章受托人的代理律师。\n\n答：很高兴认识你。\n\n问：康博伊女士，我注意到，第一，你是一名律师；第二，你以前接受过证言记录，所以我不会——我不会麻烦再讲这里的大致规则。\n\n我开头要提到的一件事是，\n\nKWOK诉GREENWICH LAND等 11\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第13页，共96页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\n10:11\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n我知道你今天下午还有其他事务。我们承诺让你在这里停留不超过四小时，我相信我们能够做到；为尽可能提高效率，我不打算安排午餐休息，但显然，如果你需要休息、想要午餐休息，或者想要——你知道，在任何时候休息，请随时告诉我。只要你回答任何尚未答复的问题，我都很乐意配合。这样可以吗？\n\n答：可以。谢谢。\n\n问：好的。不客气。康博伊女士，你目前在哪里？是在你位于康涅狄格州的律师事务所吗？\n\n答：是，在康涅狄格州格林尼治。\n\n问：与你在一起的是你的律师、你所在律所的同事托马森先生吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。康博伊女士，在不披露与你的律师之间任何沟通实质内容的情况下，\n\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第14页，共96页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\n10:12\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n你能否向我描述一下你为今天的证言记录做了什么准备？\n\n答：我只是审阅了——我之前的证言记录誊本和那份宣誓书，仅此而已。\n\n问：你所说的“那份宣誓书”是指什么？\n\n答：那份由——我认为由你们事务所或克里斯·梅杰事务所起草的宣誓书。\n\n问：你是否审阅了任何其他文件？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。你目前住在哪里？康博伊女士，你是康涅狄格州居民吗？\n\n答：是，住在格林尼治。\n\n问：你受雇于Whitman Breed Abbott & Morgan LLC，这就是全称吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：你的职务是什么？\n\n答：我是房地产律师。我是合伙人——\n\n问：好的。\n\n案件22-50073 文件2292-45 提交于10/26/23 录入于10/26/23 20:46:12 第15页，共96页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\n10:13\n\nYVer1f\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n2 答 ——在本所。\n\n3 问 您说您执业于房地产法领域。\n\n4 \n\n5 这是准确的描述吗？\n\n6 答 是。\n\n7 问 您从事房地产法执业多久了？\n\n8 \n\n9 答 大约30年。\n\n10 问 在 Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德律师事务所）工作多久了？\n\n11 答 30年。\n\n12 问 恭喜。\n\n13 答 谢谢。\n\n14 问 那您在那里担任合伙人多久了？\n\n15 答 我不知道，15年、20年，\n\n16 大概在那个范围。\n\n17 问 好的。\n\n18 所以您已经提到过此事，但您\n\n19 记得今年2月曾由我的同事\n\n20 Luft先生（卢夫先生）对您进行过宣誓作证，对吗？\n\n21 答 是。\n\n22 问 那么我将请我的同事\n\n23 将该宣誓作证笔录作为\n\n24 证物提交。\n\n25 BASSETT先生（巴西特先生）：我想那是我们的第1标签页，Ezra先生（埃兹拉先生）。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第16页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\n10:14\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com（英斯奎尔解决方案网站）\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY（康博伊女士）\n\n2 第1标签页，Ezra先生。\n\n3 SUTTON先生（萨顿先生）：我刚刚在\n\n4 聊天中分享了该文件。我很快会共享我的屏幕。\n\n5 BASSETT先生：我请求法庭\n\n6 书记员将此标记为康博伊\n\n7 证物1。\n\n8 （康博伊证物1，康博伊于 February 21, 2023 作出的\n\n9 宣誓作证笔录，\n\n10 标记供识别。）\n\n11 BASSETT先生询问：\n\n12 问 康博伊女士，我在我的屏幕上看到该文件。\n\n13 我相信您在您的屏幕上也能看到？\n\n14 答 是。\n\n15 问 我们也将其放入了聊天中，\n\n16 这样您可以自行下载该文件，\n\n17 从而可以自由查阅\n\n18 您希望查看的任何页面。\n\n19 答 好的。\n\n20 问 您确认方便后，我的问题\n\n21 只是您能否确认，据您所知，\n\n22 这实际上是否是本案中您于2月进行的\n\n23 宣誓作证笔录\n\n24 的副本？\n\n25 答 看起来是副本，是的。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第17页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:14\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 问 好的。\n\n3 我只是想把它标记出来。我们\n\n4 稍后会再回到它。\n\n5 康博伊女士，概括而言，您是否知道\n\n6 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵），即一名名为\n\n7 该姓名的个人？\n\n8 答 不——不知道。\n\n9 MAJOR先生（梅杰先生）：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n10 BASSETT先生询问：\n\n11 问 您听说过一名叫作\n\n12 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）的个人，对吗？\n\n13 答 是。\n\n14 问 那么有哪些姓名？根据您过去的\n\n15 专业经历，您是否知道他的\n\n16 其他姓名？\n\n17 答 我从未见过他，也从未\n\n18 与他交谈过。因此，我唯一听说过的姓名是\n\n19 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）。\n\n20 问 好的。\n\n21 您理解 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）\n\n22 与 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）是同一人，后者是\n\n23 本案中的债务人，对吗？\n\n24 答 我对此没有亲身了解，但是……\n\n郭文贵诉格林尼治地产等案 16\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第18页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:15\n\n10:15\n\n10:16\n\n10:16\n\n10:16\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY·保密 郭文贵诉格林尼治地产等案\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 问 好的。\n\n3 但您没有任何理由相信，\n\n4 您根据专业经历所知的 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）\n\n5 并非作为本案债务人的同一位 Miles\n\n6 Kwok（郭文贵），对吗？\n\n7 MAJOR先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n8 BASSETT先生询问：\n\n9 问 您可以回答该问题。\n\n10 答 您能再说一遍吗？我没有——\n\n11 问 您是否有任何理由相信，\n\n12 您根据专业经历所知的 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）\n\n13 并非作为本 Chapter 11（第11章）案件债务人的\n\n14 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）\n\n15 同一人？\n\n16 答 没有。\n\n17 MAJOR先生：异议。形式异议。\n\n18 答 没有，我没有。\n\n19 问 好的。\n\n20 所以，如果我提到——今天我会尽量使用\n\n21 Kwok先生来指代 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）。\n\n22 您对此可以吗？\n\n23 答 嗯，是的。\n\n24 问 好的。\n\n25 MAJOR先生：我希望将第一个\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第19页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:16\n\n10:16\n\n10:17\n\n10:17\n\n10:17\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 证物标记为高度保密。\n\n3 与对方律师的陈述相反，该文件并未\n\n4 公开提交。它是密封提交的，\n\n5 我们坚持认为其包含\n\n6 受特权保护信息的披露内容。我\n\n7 希望将其标记为高度保密。\n\n8 BASSETT先生：好的。我原以为该文件\n\n9 是公开可获得的，但我必须\n\n10 确认。如果您告诉我它不是，\n\n11 那么我会核实此事。\n\n12 BASSETT先生询问：\n\n13 问 康博伊女士，您是否知道一个名为\n\n14 Greenwich Land LLC（格林尼治地产有限责任公司）的实体？\n\n15 答 是。\n\n16 问 该实体——该实体是否为\n\n17 Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德律师事务所）的客户？\n\n18 答 是。\n\n19 问 您是否参与了该项\n\n20 代理？\n\n21 答 是。\n\n22 问 您的角色是什么？\n\n23 答 我是该有限责任公司的房地产律师。\n\n24 问 好的。\n\n25 \n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第20页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 好的。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第21页，共96页\n\nQ. 那么，您是否也代理过一个名为 Hudson Diamond New York LLC（哈德逊钻石纽约有限责任公司）的实体？我说的“您”是指您的律师事务所。\n\nA. 是。\n\nMAJOR先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\nBASSETT先生询问：\n\n25 问 我想请我的同事将\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第22页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 请将第2标签页放到屏幕上。\n\n3 （康博伊证物2，\n\n5 标记供识别。）\n\n6 BASSETT先生：我希望法庭\n\n7 书记员将本文件\n\n8 标记为证物2，即康博伊证物2。\n\n9 BASSETT先生询问：\n\n10 问 康博伊女士，您认得这份\n\n11 文件吗？\n\n12 答 \n\n14 问 好的。\n\n18 答 是。\n\n19 问 好的。\n\n25 您看到了吗？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第23页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 答 嗯。\n\n3 问 \n\n7 答 是。是。\n\n8 问 好的。\n\n13 答 是。\n\n14 问 在客户一方，就贵所对这些实体的\n\n15 代理而言，您的主要联络人\n\n16 是谁？\n\n17 答 是 Max Krasner（马克斯·克拉斯纳）。\n\n18 问 好的。\n\n19 在本次——对这些实体的\n\n20 这些委托过程中，您是否曾在任何时候\n\n21 与 Kwok先生的妻子交谈过？\n\n22 答 没有。\n\n23 问 在本案中您较早于2月进行\n\n24 宣誓作证时，您是否知道 Kwok先生妻子的姓名？\n\n25 \n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第24页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 答 不知道。\n\n3 问 您是否曾与 Kwok先生的\n\n4 儿子交谈过？\n\n5 答 没有。\n\n6 问 您是否曾与 Kwok先生的\n\n7 女儿交谈过？\n\n8 答 没有。\n\n9 问 康博伊女士，您是否就购买位于 Connecticut（康涅狄格州）\n\n10 33 Ferncliff Road 的住宅物业一事，代理过\n\n11 Greenwich Land（格林尼治地产）和 Golden Spring（金泉）？\n\n12 \n\n13 MAJOR先生：异议。\n\n14 答 是。\n\n15 BASSETT先生：我想请我的\n\n16 同事将第3标签页放入聊天中。\n\n17 （康博伊证物3，\n\n19 WBAM_000035，标记供识别。）\n\n20 BASSETT先生：我希望法庭\n\n21 书记员将此标记为康博伊\n\n22 证物3。\n\n23 BASSETT先生询问：\n\n24 问 康博伊女士，您认得这份\n\n25 文件吗？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第25页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 答 是，我认得。\n\n3 问 而且我本应在之前这样做。\n\n4 我现在来做，但仅为记录起见，\n\n7 并且在右下角，\n\n8 我相信它的 Bates 标签\n\n9 起始编号是 WBAM_000035。\n\n13 答 \n\n14 问 \n\n20 MAJOR先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n21 答 \n\n22 问 \n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第26页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n4 答 是，我记得。\n\n5 问 好的。\n\n6 那么，您是否大致记得\n\n7 该物业最初购买的日期，然后——\n\n8 嗯，我先问这个。\n\n9 您是否大致记得该物业最初购买的\n\n10 日期？\n\n11 \n\n12 \n\n13 答 我不记得。可能是 2020，\n\n14 大概在那个时候。我不记得\n\n15 日期。\n\n16 问 好的。\n\n17 我们稍后可以查看文件。\n\n18 那么您能否凭记忆\n\n19 回忆起出售的大致日期？\n\n20 答 可能是 2022。\n\n21 问 好的。\n\n22 答 但同样，我不确定。\n\n23 问 没问题。我们也可以在那里查看\n\n24 文件。\n\n25 所以，除——暂且将\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第27页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:25\n\n10:25\n\n10:25\n\n10:25\n\n10:26\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 Ferncliff 房产搁置一旁外，我们刚才已经确定该\n\n3 房产曾被购买，之后又被出售，您是否还\n\n4 就未完成交割的潜在房地产购买事宜，\n\n5 代理过我们一直在讨论的同一批实体，\n\n6 即 Greenwich Land（格林尼治地产）、Golden Spring（金泉）\n\n7 和 Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石）？\n\n8 \n\n9 \n\n10 答 是。\n\n11 问 您记得曾代表它们考察过哪些\n\n12 物业吗？\n\n13 答 有——\n\n14 MAJOR先生：异议。形式异议。\n\n15 答 有一处 Clapboard Ridge（克拉普博德岭）。有一处在 Stamford（斯坦福），\n\n16 我相信在 Greenwich（格林尼治）的 Chateau Ridge（沙托岭）。大致\n\n17 有三、四处——可能四处，是我们经手的。\n\n18 \n\n19 问 好的。\n\n20 那么——可以。110 Clapboard\n\n21 Ridge Road，作为其中一处物业，这听起来对吗？\n\n22 \n\n23 答 是。\n\n24 问 那么 Greenwich（格林尼治）的 32 Chateau Ridge\n\n25 Road 呢？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第28页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 答 是。\n\n3 问 就该物业而言，请您\n\n4 翻到位于第1标签页的您的宣誓作证笔录，\n\n5 我想请您看其中第35页。\n\n6 \n\n7 MAJOR先生：我想为记录说明，\n\n8 如我们所坚持的，\n\n9 证物1应标记为高度\n\n10 保密。笔录中涉及该文件的任何部分\n\n11 也应标记为高度保密。\n\n12 \n\n13 BASSETT先生：好的。那么，\n\n14 显然，根据保密令这没有问题，\n\n15 我们将保留我们在该\n\n16 保密令下就此享有的所有权利，但这样可以。\n\n17 \n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第29页，共96页\n\n问 您记得 Stamford（斯坦福）的 140 Wallacks Drive 是另一处曾就潜在购买进行讨论的物业吗？\n\n答 是。\n\n问 Greenwich（格林尼治）的 66 Sherwood Road 呢？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第30页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n答 是。\n\n问 谢谢。回到其他物业。您是否记得，就另一处物业而言，您曾向我们一直\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第31页，共96页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 讨论的实体提供建议，即 Greenwich（格林尼治）的 11 Hurlingham Drive？\n\n3 答 我确实不太记得。我\n\n4 不记得了。\n\n5 问 好的。\n\n6 我认为我们稍后可能会看到一份\n\n7 提及该物业的文件。\n\n8 Greenwich（格林尼治）的 602 Indian Field Road 呢？\n\n9 \n\n10 答 是。\n\n11 问 那么您——我们谈到了\n\n12 您就我们一直讨论的委托所涉\n\n13 物业提供建议的情况。\n\n14 您是否还记得一项涉及 373 Taconic Road 物业的\n\n15 交易，在该交易中您并未代理\n\n16 Greenwich Land（格林尼治地产）、Golden\n\n17 Spring（金泉）或 Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石）？\n\n18 \n\n19 答 是。\n\n20 问 您在该交易中\n\n21 参与了什么工作？\n\n22 答 我代理卖方。\n\n23 问 好的。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第32页，共96页\n\n& ESQUIRE\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第33页，共96页\n\n5 BASSETT先生：我想请我的\n\n6 同事将第4标签页\n\n7 放入聊天中。\n\n8 （康博伊证物4，October 3rd,\n\n9 2019，带有 Bates 标签 WBAM_010076 的电子邮件，\n\n10 标记供识别。）\n\n11 BASSETT先生：该文件将被\n\n12 标记为——我希望其被\n\n13 标记为康博伊证物4。为记录起见，\n\n14 这是一封 October 3rd, 2019 的\n\n15 电子邮件，其右下角的 Bates 标签为\n\n16 WBAM_010076。\n\n17 BASSETT先生询问：\n\n18 问 康博伊女士，我们看到的这些\n\n19 文件在右下角带有以 WBAM 开头的 Bates 标签，\n\n20 \n\n21 您是否理解，这些是 Whitman Breed（惠特曼·布里德律师事务所）从其档案中\n\n22 向受托人提交的文件？\n\n23 答 是。\n\n24 问 而这些文件是\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第34页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:32\n\n10:32\n\n10:33\n\n10:33\n\n10:33\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\n问：该律所是在其日常业务过程中保存这些已出示文件的吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您是否记得——嗯，撤回这个问题。\n\n您是否撰写了此处康博伊证物4中显示的电子邮件？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Kevin Walsh（凯文·沃尔什）是谁？\n\n答：他是我们的管理合伙人。他是我的合伙人。\n\n问：您在该电子邮件的第一句话中说：“Kevin，我的客户，这位中国亿万富翁，可能会购买602 Indian Field（印第安菲尔德602号），即位于Meade's Point（米兹角）尽头的11英亩空置地块。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您在这封电子邮件中所指的这位中国亿万富翁是谁？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：这就是在进行 Google 搜索时对 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）的称呼。\n\n问：好的。\n\n因此，当您撰写这封电子邮件并\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 35 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:33\n\n10:34\n\n10:34\n\n10:34\n\n10:34\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\n使用“这位中国亿万富翁”这一表述时，所指的是 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）吗？\n\n答：是。通过 Google。\n\nTHOMASON 律师：请回答“是”或“否”。\n\nBASSETT 律师询问：\n\n问：然后，您在该句话末尾说：“卖方接受了他提出的 $35 million 报价。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这里的“他”一词再次指的是这位中国亿万富翁 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）吗？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：在这封电子邮件的下一句话中，您说：“我不知道这是否真的会实现。他正在与建筑师、工程师等人会面。”\n\n我想聚焦于其中的“他”一词。“他正在与建筑师、工程师等人会面。”这里的“他”再次指的是这位中国亿万富翁 Kwok 先生，对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 36 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:34\n\n10:35\n\n10:35\n\n10:35\n\n10:35\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：然后，在这封电子邮件的最后一句中写道：“显然，现业主已获准建造两栋房屋。我不确定我的客户将只建造一栋房屋还是两栋。我的客户让我暂缓订购检索，直至他对在该地块上建造房屋所涉及的事项有所了解。”\n\n再次，与该电子邮件其余内容一致，您撰写该电子邮件时，对“我的客户”的提及是指中国亿万富翁 Miles Kwok（郭文贵），对吗？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您就该潜在房产购买所进行的工作，均属于我们此前谈及的委托事项范围之内，对吗，即 Greenwich Land（格林尼治地产）、Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石）和 Golden Spring（金泉）的委托事项？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 37 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:35\n\n10:36\n\n10:36\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\nBASSETT 律师：请我的同事将标签5放入聊天框。\n\n（康博伊证物5，January 22, 2019，带有 Bates 编号 WBAM_0002663 的电子邮件，标记以供识别。）\n\nBASSETT 律师：这份文件将标记为康博伊证物5；对吗？谢谢。抱歉。\n\nBASSETT 律师询问：\n\n问：为记录在案，标记为康博伊证物5的文件是一封日期为 January 22, 2019 的电子邮件，其第一页右下角的 Bates 编号为 WBAM_0002663。\n\nConboy 女士，如果您查看本页接近底部、下午2:58开始的电子邮件，其开头为：“Hi Kristi。”\n\n那是您撰写的一封电子邮件吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您写道：“Hi Kristi，您能否为位于140 Wallacks Drive（沃拉克斯大道140号）、Caritas Island（卡里塔斯岛）、Stamford（斯坦福德）的房产订购一份完整的产权和市政检索？”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治地产）等 36\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 38 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\n10:37\n\n10:38\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\nTHOMASON 律师：能否稍微放大一点。\n\n证人：是，需要放大。\n\nBASSETT 律师：当然。\n\nTHOMASON 律师：很好。\n\nBASSETT 律师询问：\n\n问：所以，您是在此要求一位同事进行产权和市政检索；对吗，针对一处可能购置的房产？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：如果您查看该邮件链最上方的电子邮件，您写道：“Hi Bob。”\n\nBob 是谁？\n\n答：我们的产权检索员。\n\n问：好的。\n\n您写道：“Hi Bob，我希望您进行检索，因为这是一处临水的高端房产。这位中国亿万富翁已接受一项报价。谢谢。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这位中国亿万富翁指的是谁？\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治地产）等 37\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 39 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:38\n\n10:38\n\n10:39\n\n10:39\n\n10:39\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\n答：Kwok 先生。\n\nBASSETT 律师：请我的同事将标签6置于屏幕上。\n\n（康博伊证物6，January 6, 2019，电子邮件，盖有 Bates 编号 WBAM_002803，标记以供识别。）\n\nBASSETT 律师：为记录在案，康博伊证物6是一组电子邮件链，最上方的电子邮件日期为 January 6, 2019，其第一页右下角盖有 Bates 编号 WBAM_002803。\n\nBASSETT 律师询问：\n\n问：如果我们翻到 Bates 编号为2806的一页。\n\n您将在这里看到一封由 Emile deNeree（埃米尔·德内雷）发送给 Barbara Vogt（芭芭拉·沃格特）的电子邮件。\n\n您知道这两人是谁吗？\n\n答：我——我知道 Barbara Vogt，但另一位我不知道。\n\n问：那么，您是否了解 Emile deNeree 是作为 Kwok 先生的经纪人行事？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：我不记得。我不记得\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治地产）等 38\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 40 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:40\n\n10:40\n\n10:40\n\n10:40\n\n10:41\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\nEmile。我不记得他。\n\n问：在他发送给 Barbara Vogt 的电子邮件中，他说：“您能否请您的客户同意这些条款，因为只要他的律师收到可接受的尽职调查条款，Miles 已准备好于今天下午签署合同。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：然后，之后写道：“Miles 不希望延期。他的律师只是在保护他。”\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。现在，如果您向上滚动到第一页，您最终被抄送了这封电子邮件。\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：不，我没有看到。\n\n问：到顶部。\n\n答：哦，是的。我在上面看到了。\n\n问：您被抄送该电子邮件，并且您曾代理 Golden Spring、Hudson Diamond 和 Greenwich Land，您能否说明，您为何会\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 41 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\n10:41\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\n被抄送这封电子邮件的记忆是什么？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n（多人同时发言。）\n\nMAJOR 律师：要求推测。\n\nBASSETT 律师询问：\n\n问：抱歉？\n\n答：我没有写这封邮件——我不知道。我不知道为什么会抄送给我。\n\n问：好的。\n\n那么，如果您向下滚动回到我们此前查看的 deNeree 先生发送给另一位您说您理解为经纪人的个人的电子邮件？\n\n答：嗯哼。\n\n问：deNeree 先生对 Vogt 女士说：“您能否请您的客户同意这些条款，因为只要他的律师收到可接受的尽职调查条款，Miles 已准备好于今天下午签署合同。”\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。\n\n如果 Vogt 女士在这一\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 42 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:42\n\n10:42\n\n10:42\n\n10:42\n\n10:43\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\n潜在交易中代理卖方，那么 deNeree 先生是作为 Kwok 先生的经纪人行事，这是否合乎逻辑？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n要求推测。\n\n答：我不记得 Frank——或者不管叫什么——抱歉。Emile，我不记得他。\n\n问：您是否记得参与过这项潜在交易？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：在这项潜在交易中，您代理的是谁？\n\n答：这是——我们还在说 Wallacks——这是哪项交易？\n\n问：是。我的意思是，如果我们——我们可以浏览整份文件。我相信其中提到了 Wallacks Road（沃拉克斯路）？\n\n答：好的。\n\n（文件审阅。）\n\n答：好的。那么问题是什么来着？\n\n问：我问您是否记得参与过这项交易？\n\n答：我记得参与过 Wallacks Road，\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治地产）等 41\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 43 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:43\n\n10:43\n\n10:43\n\n10:44\n\n10:44\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\n如果这是 Wallacks Road，那么我记得参与过。\n\n问：好的。\n\n如果您回到 deNeree 先生的电子邮件，假如您在这项潜在交易中代理买方，那么对买方律师的提及就是指您；不是吗？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：是，是。买方的——\n\n问：当其写道：“Miles 不希望延期。他的律师只是在保护他。”\n\n他的律师就是指您；不是吗？\n\nMAJOR 律师：对提问形式提出异议。\n\n答：我没有写这封电子邮件，所以——但听起来似乎会是——我不知道，您知道，我没有——我不知道在他的——他的——他当时是怎么想的，但是……\n\n问：您是否知道——您是否知道 Kwok 先生就 Wallacks Road 另有律师代理他？\n\n答：我不知道。我不知道。\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治地产）等 42\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 44 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:44\n\n10:44\n\n10:45\n\n10:45\n\n10:45\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY（M. 康博伊）\n\n问：您并不——您并不知情，对吗？\n\n答：我不知情，不，不。\n\nBASSETT 律师：请我的同事将标签7置于屏幕上。\n\n（康博伊证物7，July 12, 2019，带有 Bates 编号 WBAM_003873 的电子邮件链，标记以供识别。）\n\nBASSETT 律师：本文件，我将要求标记为康博伊证物7，是一组电子邮件链，始于第一页日期为 July 12, 2019 的电子邮件，右下角的 Bates 编号为 WBAM_00387。\n\n您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\nTHOMASON 律师：3873。\n\nBASSETT 律师：3873。正确。\n\nBASSETT 律师询问：\n\n问：然后，请您转到3875上的该邮件链第一封电子邮件。\n\nBASSETT 律师：有很多背景噪音。我不确定那是从哪里来的。我想是\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 45 of 96\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n10:46\n\n10:46\n\n10:46\n\n10:46\n\n10:47\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n交叉询问\n\n由巴塞特先生（Bassett）询问：\n\n问：如果您看一下那封电子邮件，其中有两个人，一封从 Louise Camuto（路易丝·卡穆托）发给 Mary Muffin E. Dowdle（玛丽·马芬·E·道德尔）的电子邮件。您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：您是否了解道德尔女士和卡穆托女士是房地产经纪人？\n\n答：道德尔女士是房地产经纪人。我不知道卡穆托女士是谁，所以我不了解她。\n\n问：您是否了解道德尔女士是为郭先生工作的经纪人？\n\n答：是。或者——是。\n\n问：这涉及我们先前提到的 Chateau Ridge（沙托岭）房产吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：我们正在看的这封卡穆托女士的电子邮件实际上是写给郭先生的，其第一段写道：“亲爱的 Miles（迈尔斯）：感谢您回复我。我期待着完成此事，并期待您搬入这个我们非常喜爱的绝佳住所，而您似乎也和我们一样喜爱它。”您看到了吗？\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治土地公司）等案。44\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 46 of 96\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:47\n\n10:47\n\n10:47\n\n10:47\n\n10:48\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：第二段写道：“您要求我把骨灰瓮留在客厅和大客厅的架子上。鉴于您非常喜爱它们，并本着合作精神，我希望您拥有这些物品。”接着写道：“作为交换，如果您允许我保留那套一直属于我的蓝色椅子，以便我能够将四把椅子保留在一起。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：好的。接下来的段落，我只作概述，其中谈到她对 Miles 说，他要求两件柜子或衣柜。之后一段——即最后一段——谈到两名在该庄园工作的男子，并提及他们的薪水。最后写道：“请告知我，您是否有兴趣也将这些薪水纳入您的工资单。”\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治土地公司）等案。45\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 47 of 96\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:48\n\n10:48\n\n10:49\n\n10:49\n\n10:49\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：然后，如果我们往上看紧接在这封电子邮件上方的下一封电子邮件，您称其为本次委托事项联络人的 Max Krasner（马克斯·克拉斯纳）将其转发给 Yvette Wang（伊薇特·王）和 Karin Maistrello（卡琳·迈斯特雷洛）。然后，如果您再往上看，这是伊薇特·王回复第一封电子邮件的最初作者。邮件写道：“亲爱的 Louise：感谢您回复 Miles。请原谅他，因为他的英语口语比书面英语好。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：然后还写道：“Miles 说，他对这个绝佳住所的喜爱与您完全一样。他甚至希望您将来可以回来，与他分享有关这个地方的美丽故事。我相信有很多这样的故事。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 48 of 96\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:49\n\n10:49\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：然后写道：“Miles 说，他感谢您同意留下这些骨灰瓮。他确实非常喜爱它们。出于同样的合作精神，他希望您保留四把蓝色椅子，此外，他甚至希望您选择您最喜欢的那件柜子。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：接下来一段开头为：“Golden Spring New York Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）作为一家总部位于曼哈顿的家族办公室，负责照管 Miles 及其家人在美国的企业、项目和资产。GSNY 将按照您所告知的薪酬，直接雇用/签约 Peter（彼得）和 James（詹姆斯）。”然后还继续写了其他内容。您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：最后，最后一段写道：“我谨代表 Miles，再次感谢您将这座美丽的住所交给他。祝一切顺利。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 49 of 96\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\n10:50\n\n10:51\n\n10:51\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：如果您看一下其上方的电子邮件，这是另一封回复伊薇特·王的电子邮件。\n\n巴塞特先生：请我的同事向上滚动。\n\n由巴塞特先生询问：\n\n问：而且，这同样是一封从路易丝·卡穆托发给伊薇特·王、抄送马克斯·克拉斯纳和卡琳·迈斯特雷洛的电子邮件。如果您向下滚动，除其他内容外，邮件写道：“我很高兴 Miles 会享用这些绝佳的骨灰瓮；如您所知，它们相当稀有且珍贵。它们使房间更添光彩。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：最后一段写道：“感谢您和 Miles，请保持沟通畅通。当他完全安顿下来后，我很乐意有一天去拜访他。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：如我们已经确认，这封电子邮件上载有贵律师事务所的 Bates 编号。因此，这意味着它来自您的档案，对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 50 of 96\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:51\n\n10:51\n\n10:51\n\n10:52\n\n10:52\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n康博伊女士\n\n答：是。\n\n问：现在，在您代表房地产交易中的买方所进行的工作过程中，您通常会出于何种目的收到这样的电子邮件，其中包含买方可能希望在房屋中购买的物品的细节？\n\nMajor先生（Major）：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：会是——我们会保留它，以便能够将他们谈到的条款、不同条款写入合同。\n\n问：因此，您会使用这些信息，将其写入关于郭先生潜在购买 Chateau Ridge 的合同中，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\nMajor先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n由巴塞特先生询问：\n\n问：再次确认，您就 Chateau Ridge 房产所做的全部工作，如同我们一直在讨论的全部工作一样，都是在我们谈到的 Greenwich Land、Golden Spring 和 Hudson Diamond（哈德逊钻石）委托事项这一总体框架下完成的，对吗？\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治土地公司）等案。49\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n10:52\n\n10:52\n\n10:52\n\n10:53\n\n10:53\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n康博伊女士\n\n答：是。\n\nMajor先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n巴塞特先生：如果可以的话——或者请我的同事——请展示那封电子邮件，抱歉——请展示作为 Tab 8 的文件。\n\n（康博伊证物8，2020年12月15日，电子邮件，Bates 编号 WBAM_0038336，标记供识别。）\n\n巴塞特先生：我将把该文件标记为康博伊证物8。\n\n由巴塞特先生询问：\n\n问：为记录起见，这是另一串电子邮件，其中邮件链顶部的电子邮件日期为 2020年12月15日，第一页右下角的 Bates 编号为 WBAM_0038336。康博伊女士，请按需要花时间查看该文件；但是，正如您可以看到的，您被抄送在该邮件链的第一封电子邮件以及第二封电子邮件中，而且，如果向下滚动，我认为还有其他电子邮件。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 52 of 96\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：您是否记得这涉及哪一处或哪些房产？主题行是：“MK properties to Hudson Diamond New York LLC（哈德逊钻石纽约有限责任公司）？”\n\n答：我不知道是哪一处房产。\n\n巴塞特先生：请转到下一页。请转到下一页。好的。\n\n由巴塞特先生询问：\n\n问：该电子邮件链似乎未列出房产名称，但至少在顶部，这是一组您与马克斯·克拉斯纳之间的电子邮件往来，对吗，康博伊女士？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：因此，就您最佳记忆而言，这是否是我们提到过的其中一处房产，您通过马克斯·克拉斯纳作为联络人，在 Greenwich Land、Golden Spring 和 Hudson Diamond 委托事项下，就该房产提供过意见？\n\nMajor先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：这是马克斯发给我的。他是在告诉我们暂缓——当时需要对房产进行整理。\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n10:53\n\n10:54\n\n10:54\n\n10:54\n\n10:55\n\nYVer1f\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 53 of 96\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：他具体对您说的是：“我刚刚与 Miles 交谈过，他告知团队他不会继续推进这处房产。”您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：而您理解 Miles 是指 Miles Kwok（郭文贵）？\n\n答：是。\n\nMajor先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n由巴塞特先生询问：\n\n问：其中“he advised”里的“he”，也会是指 Miles Kwok，对吗？\n\nMajor先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：那是他写的——那是马克斯·克拉斯纳写的，所以。\n\n问：好的。那么，康博伊女士，我们今天已经看到了相当多的电子邮件，大约五六封。您是否记得在您二月份的证言录取中见过这些相同的电子邮件？\n\n答：是。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 54 of 96\n\n2 ESQUIRE\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 55 of 96\n\n& ESQUIRE\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 56 of 96\n\n2 ESOUIRE\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 57 of 96\n\n巴塞特先生：我想请我的同事将我们的 Tab 10，即将作为证物9的文件，放入聊天中。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 58 of 96\n\n康博伊女士\n\n该文件将被作为证物9放入聊天中。\n\n（康博伊证物9，Bates 标记为 WBAM_00002，标记供识别。）\n\n巴塞特先生：这份文件稍小一些。我们可能需要再稍微放大一点，然后我们就可以直接查看具体行。这样很好。也许缩小一级。\n\n由巴塞特先生询问：\n\n问：康博伊女士，您认得这份文件吗？\n\n答：认得。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您能否告诉我它是什么，\n\n康博伊女士\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 61 of 96\n\n康博伊女士\n\n答：\n\nThomason先生（Thomason）：您知道，我有这份文件的纸质副本。我可以给她看吗？\n\n答：可以。\n\n巴塞特先生：当然可以。\n\n（文件审阅。）\n\n巴塞特先生：\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：您看到了吗。\n\n答：嗯，好——是的。\n\n问：\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：\n\n答：嗯。\n\n问：\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 63 of 96\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 64 of 96\n\n康博伊女士\n\n答：嗯哼。\n\n问：\n\n答：是。\n\nMajor先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n由巴塞特先生询问：\n\n问：好的。现在我想转到该文件的下一页。顺便问一下，康博伊女士，我们刚才所看的内容，是否使您回忆起 33 Ferncliff Road（芬克利夫路33号）房产的最初购买是在 2019年8月？\n\n答：是。\n\nMajor先生：对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：不，实际上是——让我看一下日期。\n\n（文件审阅。）\n\n答：不。交割是在——不是 8月19日。哦，2019年8月，是的。\n\n问：谢谢。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 65 of 96\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：那在哪里？哦，我看到了。是的。好的。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。\n\n康博伊女士\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：\n\n问：您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：\n\n答：我完全不知道。\n\n问：\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 68 of 96\n\n康博伊女士\n\n2 问：好的。\n\nMAJOR先生（梅杰）：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\nBASSETT先生（巴塞特）：\n问：我没有听到您的回答。抱歉。\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：据您所知，债务人的儿子是否参与了该项交易？\n\nMAJOR先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。\n\n答：我——我不知道。\n\n问：您刚才说，Krasner先生（克拉斯纳）是您的联系人，对吗？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：Krasner先生是否曾告诉您，在就房产作出任何决定之前，他需要获得Kwok先生（郭文贵）妻子的批准？\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第69页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\n11:12\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\nMAJOR先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。并且，就该问题涉及证人在代理Greenwich Land LLC（格林尼治置地有限责任公司）期间所作指示的范围内，以特权为由指示证人不要回答。\n\nBASSETT先生：\nChris，我再告诉你一次，你们已经放弃了任何特权。我不同意你们享有该特权。\n\n而且，无论如何，这个问题从表面上看并未要求披露任何受律师—当事人特权保护的通信。这是一个是或否的问题。\n\nMAJOR先生：\nKrasner先生是Greenwich Land LLC的一名高级职员。你刚刚问及他与代理Greenwich Land LLC的一名律师进行的谈话。这是受特权保护的通信，我们据此指示证人不要回答。你关于放弃特权的论点是错误的。我们从未放弃该特权。事实上，我们已主张该特权。我们\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第70页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY·保密 September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n未参加先前的证言记录。我们未收到先前证言记录的通知或邀请。\n\n而且，Greenwich Land LLC从未授权Whitman Breed律师事务所放弃该特权。这是当事人的特权，不是律师的特权。当然更不是作为提问律师的你的特权。即使此前存在未经当事人知情和同意而作出的披露，也无关紧要。\n\nBASSETT先生：\n好的。我不同意你刚才所说的一切。你们数月来均有机会就我们起诉状中提及Conboy女士证言的指控，以及就该证言本身提出任何问题。\n\n我也不——确实——我询问她与该公司高级职员之间的谈话这一事实，丝毫不会使回答受到特权保护。我并未要求她披露任何意见\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:13\n\n11:13\n\n11:13\n\n11:13\n\n11:14\n\nYVer1f\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第71页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:14\n\n11:14\n\n11:14\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\nYVer1f\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n她向其提供的意见，或其向她寻求的任何法律意见。\n\n这正是通信要受到律师—当事人特权保护所需满足的定义。\n\n我所问的问题，我可以让法庭记录员回读，绝对没有要求她披露任何受特权保护的通信。\n\nBASSETT先生：\n问：Conboy女士，Krasner先生是否——我不是在询问您向Krasner先生提供的意见，或Krasner先生就法律意见向您询问的任何内容。我只是询问，Krasner先生是否从商业角度告诉您，在就房产作出决定之前，他需要获得Kwok先生妻子的批准？\n\nMAJOR先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。并且再次指示证人不要回答。该——\n\nBASSETT先生：\n那怎么会受到特权保护？\n\nMAJOR先生：\n因为你在询问\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第72页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\n11:15\n\n11:29\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 关于——\n\nBASSETT先生：\nChris，哪里有寻求法律意见的请求？\n\nMAJOR先生：\n请让人回读该问题，或者如果你想重新问一遍，怎么快就怎么来。\n\nBASSETT先生：\n问：Krasner先生是否曾从商业角度告诉您，在就房产作出任何决定之前，他需要获得Kwok先生妻子的批准？\n\nMAJOR先生：\n让我用一分钟快速考虑一下。我一分钟后回来。稍等。\n\nBASSETT先生：\n好的。\n\nTHOMASON先生（托马森）：\n我们要休庭一下。可以吗，Nick？\n\nBASSETT先生：\n当然。\n\n（休庭。）\n\nMAJOR先生：\n非常感谢各位同意休庭。我想确保我们今天尽可能审慎行事，所以我想花一点时间考虑此事\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治置地）等 71\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第73页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY·保密 September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n并与一名同事商议。\n\n而且，我确实认为该问题要求披露受特权保护的通信。我认为该特权的范围比Bassett先生所述更广。它适用于律师与当事人之间有关提供法律意见或提供法律服务的通信。\n\n我认为，在房地产交易的背景下，Conboy女士所扮演的角色具有独特的法律性质。纯粹的商业讨论，是与经纪人进行的。像这样的住宅贷款成交——像这样的住宅出售，参与其中的房地产律师是在需要法律服务时被引入的，例如起草合同等。\n\n因此，我认为Conboy女士与Greenwich Land LLC一名高级职员进行的谈话受到特权保护，故我们将就该问题主张特权。\n\nKWOK诉 GREENWICH LAND 等 72\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n11:29\n\n11:29\n\n11:29\n\n11:30\n\n11:30\n\nYVer1f\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第74页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY·保密 September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\nBASSETT先生：\n那么，谢谢你，Chris。我不认为那是对法律的准确表述，或对其的正确适用。我所问的问题，仅仅是关于当事人一方由谁批准交易，或与交易有关的决定。这不受特权保护。\n\n此外，今天整个证言记录过程中，我一直在询问Conboy女士与Krasner先生之间的通信，包括向其出示该等通信。其中一些通信显示，例如，Krasner先生曾告诉她，Kwok先生决定不购买某处房产。\n\n这与我现在所问的绝无不同。记录中已经——已经有关于Kwok先生代表当事人作出决定的证言。我所问的只是，她是否曾被告知，不是Kwok先生，而是其妻子需要作出决定。因此\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:30\n\n11:30\n\n11:31\n\n11:31\n\n11:31\n\nYVer1f\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第75页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY·保密 September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n这是可以询问的事项。而且——这个问题已经被打开。你们可能享有的任何特权，均已在今天一整天中被放弃。\n\n如果你们坚持该异议，我们将保留我们的权利，并在必要时向法院提出此事。\n\nMAJOR先生：\n我们将坚持该异议。并且，为明确起见，你知道，试图声称已经——\n\nBASSETT先生：\n嘿，Avi，把你的电话静音。抱歉。\n\nMAJOR先生：\n——声称今天在证言记录中已放弃特权，是一种不坦诚的论点，因为我们没有对你询问Kwok先生的问题提出异议。我们不代理Kwok先生。Greenwich Land并不拥有或就你正在提问的房产进行交易。这里，你谈论的是一处由Greenwich Land LLC拥有的房产。正如你所知，Max Krasner是Greenwich Land的一名高级职员，他一直在与Greenwich\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:31\n\n11:31\n\n11:32\n\n11:32\n\n11:32\n\nYVer1f\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第76页，共96页\n\nKWOK诉 GREENWICH LAND 等\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\nLand的律师就涉及Greenwich Land所拥有房产的一项交易进行通信，这就是我们适当提出异议的原因。\n\nBASSETT先生：\n好的。为明确起见，我不是在询问任何特定交易。问题是：在受聘期间，Krasner先生是否曾从商业角度告诉您，在就房产作出任何决定之前，他需要获得Kwok先生妻子的批准？我不是在询问任何特定交易或房产。\n\nMAJOR先生：\n是的，所以你看，如果证人及其律师事务所认为他们能够区分各项代理事项，而你希望将你的问题限定于非Greenwich Land LLC的代理事项，那么我认为我们不会提出异议。因为我们只代理Greenwich Land和Guo女士（郭女士），其在起诉书中被列为Hing Chi Ngok，而且我不代理任何其他人。因此，我只能代表这两者主张特权。不过，再次强调，你提出问题的方式\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:32\n\n11:33\n\n11:33\n\n11:33\n\n11:33\n\nYVer1f\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第77页，共96页 MARGARET CONBOY·保密 September 12, 2023\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n试图将这些实体混为一谈，我一直对问题形式提出异议，因为这种方式不当。但你试图使其听起来好像Greenwich Land与问题中的其他实体没有任何不同。\n\n我不知道，鉴于证人此前在我们未参与的情况下已接受证言记录，我不知道证人是否能够区分你一直合并——合并在一起的各项代理事项。我完全不同意它们被合并在一起，但这就是你决定提出问题的方式。我认为，当你提出像这样的一般性问题时，这会使事情更为棘手，这也是我们同样对问题形式提出异议的原因。不过，那只是为了记录之目的，以便我们能够处理你知道，日后可能令人困惑的证言。\n\n但就Greenwich Land而言，任何\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com 11:34\n\n11:34\n\n11:34\n\n11:34\n\n11:34\n\nYVer1f\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 2292-45 提交于 10/26/23 录入于 10/26/23 20:46:12 第78页，共96页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\n11:35\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY·保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 关于Conboy女士（玛格丽特·康博伊）与Greenwich Land（格林尼治土地公司）的一名管理人员就一项涉及Greenwich Land所有房产的房地产交易执行事宜所进行的沟通，\n3 \n4 \n5 \n6 我们将坚持我们的异议。\n7 \n8 BASSETT先生（巴西特先生）：\n9 问：Conboy女士，您此前作证称，您作为同一项委托的一部分代表了Greenwich Land、Golden Spring（金泉公司）和Hudson Diamond New York（纽约哈德逊钻石公司）。\n10 \n11 \n12 \n13 您记得吗？\n14 MAJOR先生（梅杰先生）：对提问形式提出异议。\n15 答：我——您能再说一遍问题吗，\n16 请？\n17 BASSETT先生：请法庭\n18 速记员宣读一遍，可以吗？\n19 （问题宣读如下：\n20 “问题：Conboy女士，您\n21 此前作证称，您代表了\n22 Greenwich Land、Golden Spring和Hudson\n23 Diamond New York，作为同一项\n24 委托的一部分。\n25 您记得吗？”）\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 79 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:36\n\n11:36\n\n11:36\n\n11:36\n\n11:37\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 答：是。\n3 问：Conboy女士，在您与Krasner先生（克拉斯纳先生）的沟通中，您是否曾在该等沟通过程中区分Greenwich Land、Golden Spring和Hudson Diamond？\n4 \n5 \n6 \n7 \n8 MAJOR先生：对提问形式提出异议。并且\n9 我仅提醒证人不要披露与Greenwich Land有关的\n10 受律师—当事人特权保护的\n11 沟通内容，\n12 但我认为这个问题可以在不越过该界限的情况下回答。\n13 \n14 THOMASON先生（托马森先生）：这听起来是一个\n15 可以用是或否回答的问题，对吗？\n16 BASSETT先生：这是一个是或否的问题。\n17 THOMASON先生：我认为，对该问题作出\n18 肯定或否定的回答\n19 不会披露受特权保护的\n20 信息；对吗，Chris？\n21 MAJOR先生：是，那正是我的意思。\n22 THOMASON先生：因此，如果您能够以\n23 肯定或否定的方式回答\n24 该问题，您可以这样做。如果您不能——\n25 您需要——感觉上，您知道，更多——\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 80 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:37\n\n11:37\n\n11:37\n\n11:37\n\n11:38\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 证人：那么——好的。\n3 答：所以问题是，我是否区分了\n4 ——\n5 THOMASON先生：不同的\n6 实体。\n7 答：——不同的实体。而且我——我不——我不理解\n8 这到底是什么意思，即我是否在\n9 不同实体之间作了区分。我不理解\n10 这个问题。\n11 问：那么，当您接受Krasner先生的指示并与\n12 Krasner先生交谈时，\n13 \n14 您是否曾经——您是否始终\n15 作为代表全部三个实体的人与他沟通，还是您有时\n16 会区分\n17 他代表哪个实体进行沟通？\n18 \n19 MAJOR先生：对提问形式提出异议。\n20 答：我会——是，全部三个实体。\n21 是。\n22 问：因此，当您与他沟通时，\n23 在您看来，他是在\n24 代表全部三个实体进行沟通？\n25 答：是。郭文贵诉Greenwich Land等案。79\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 81 页，共 96 页\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 MAJOR先生：对提问形式提出异议。并且\n3 我还提醒证人不要披露\n4 受律师—当事人特权保护的沟通内容。\n5 BASSETT先生：好的。我不\n6 认为此时还有任何混淆。\n7 BASSETT先生：\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 82 页，共 96 页\n\n24 THOMASON先生：对证人而言，问题就这些\n\n25 了吗？\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 83 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:40\n\n11:40\n\n11:41\n\n11:41\n\n11:41\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 MAJOR先生：我将向\n3 证人提出一些问题。\n4 THOMASON先生：好的。\n5 由\n6 MAJOR先生进行询问：\n7 问：早上好，Conboy女士。我的名字\n8 是Chris Major。我的合伙人Austin Kim（奥斯汀·金）也在线。\n9 我们代表Greenwich Land LLC（格林尼治土地有限责任公司）和Guo女士（郭女士），后者在本\n10 对抗程序的起诉状中被列为Hing Chi Ngok（邢志岳）。\n11 \n12 您是否有机会审阅本对抗程序中的\n13 起诉状？\n14 答：没有。\n15 问：在本Kwok（郭文贵）破产案中，\n16 Chapter 11受托人首次\n17 联系您是在何时？\n18 答：至少是——我想说至少\n19 六个月前。可能更早。\n20 问：您知道本破产案中\n21 Chapter 11受托人的姓名吗？\n22 答：我不记得。\n23 问：您记得是谁代表\n24 受托人联系您的吗？\n25 答：嗯，先是一名客户打电话给我。然后\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 84 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:42\n\n11:42\n\n11:42\n\n11:42\n\n11:43\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 然后——我想是受托人本人，\n3 那位合伙人。\n4 问：是Luc Despins（吕克·德斯潘）吗？\n5 答：是。\n6 问：他是通过电话联系您的吗？\n7 答：我想可能先是通过电子邮件，\n8 然后——我确实与他通了电话。\n9 问：当您与Despins先生通电话时，\n10 您律所的任何人是否与您一同参加？\n11 答：我不记得。\n12 问：在那次通话期间，Despins先生对您\n13 说了什么？\n14 答：起初，他是在询问是否——\n15 关于寄送与373 Taconic有关的\n16 文件夹。起初是关于\n17 Taconic的——而且我代表卖方，所以我们\n18 必须取得豁免书，那是最初的\n19 讨论。\n20 问：好的。\n21 您是否将373 Taconic的案卷\n22 交付给Despins先生？\n23 答：我相信发生的情况是，我的\n24 客户，也就是卖方，与那位律师、受托人是朋友。\n25 而且他把文件寄给了他们。\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 85 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:43\n\n11:43\n\n11:44\n\n11:44\n\n11:44\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 我没有寄。\n3 问：您记得您在该交易中的\n4 客户姓名吗？\n5 答：Augustine，Augustine先生（奥古斯丁先生）。\n6 问：您是否向Despins先生或其在Paul Hastings（保尔·黑斯廷斯律师事务所）的任何同事\n7 交付过任何文件？\n8 \n9 答：我不记得。我不知道。\n10 之后我们诉讼部门的人接手了。或者Jim Riley（吉姆·赖利）、\n11 Michael（迈克尔），他们接手了。所以我没有——\n12 在那之后——在Augustine先生寄送\n13 文件之后，我便未再与他们有任何联系。\n14 \n15 问：好的。\n16 此后，您是否在\n17 那次最初的电话之后与Despins先生有过进一步\n18 交谈？\n19 答：我不记得。\n20 问：您是否仍保留着您从Despins先生处\n21 收到的电子邮件？\n22 答：我不知道。\n23 问：在您进行的最初电话之后，\n24 您是否与Despins先生有进一步的电子邮件\n25 往来？\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 86 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:44\n\n11:44\n\n11:45\n\n11:45\n\n11:45\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 答：我不记得。\n3 问：除Despins先生之外，您是否曾就本破产案\n4 与Paul Hastings的其他律师\n5 有过沟通？\n6 答：我不记得。\n7 问：在今天之前，您是否曾与\n8 Bassett先生交谈过？\n9 答：没有。\n10 问：除您根据Rule 2004进行的——\n11 已有部分页面在今天展示的\n12 证言笔录外，您是否曾与Paul Hastings的Avi Luft（阿维·卢夫特）\n13 有过任何交谈？\n14 答：没有，自那次证言笔录以来没有。\n15 我只有那次证言笔录。\n16 问：当Despins先生要求提供成交案卷时，\n17 您在电话中告诉他什么？\n18 BASSETT先生：对提问形式提出异议。\n19 答：我必须与我的客户核实，\n20 看看他是否同意；我——我必须\n21 获得他的同意。\n22 问：回到Ferncliff Road（芬克利夫路）\n23 房产，您知道您的律所是否向受托人或\n24 向代表受托人的任何律师提供过与该\n25 房产有关的任何文件吗\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 87 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:46\n\n11:46\n\n11:47\n\n11:47\n\n11:48\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 ——无论是在他的律师事务所，还是在康涅狄格州一家名为\n3 Neubert, Pepe & Monteith（纽伯特、佩佩及蒙蒂斯律师事务所）的律师事务所？\n4 \n5 答：我不知道。\n6 问：您是否——撤回。\n7 您是否曾与Bassett先生所称的\n8 Kwok先生（郭文贵先生）交谈过？\n9 答：没有。\n10 问：您曾见过他吗？\n11 答：没有。\n12 问：就373 Taconic\n13 Road房产交易而言，您是否对用于\n14 购买当时您客户先前——现已不再是其住处的373 Taconic Road房屋的\n15 资金来源\n16 进行过任何尽职调查？\n17 答：没有。\n18 BASSETT先生：异议。\n19 由MAJOR先生继续询问：\n20 问：您知道Greenwich Land LLC的\n21 成员是谁，或者成员有哪些吗？\n22 答：不知道。\n23 问：您知道用于购买您客户现已不再拥有的\n24 373 Taconic Road住处的\n25 资金来源吗？\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 88 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:48\n\n11:49\n\n11:49\n\n11:49\n\n11:50\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 BASSETT先生：对提问形式提出异议。\n3 答：不知道。\n4 问：您知道谁住在康涅狄格州格林尼治\n5 373 Taconic Road的房屋里吗？\n6 答：不知道。\n7 问：我将这个问题限定于康涅狄格州格林尼治的\n8 373 Taconic Road，即您代表卖方的地点。\n9 \n10 您是否曾见证买方就取得\n11 该房产所进行的任何审议？\n12 \n13 BASSETT先生：对提问形式提出异议。\n14 答：没有。\n15 问：您记得373 Taconic Road房产的\n16 买方姓名吗？\n17 答：我不记得。我不记得。\n18 问：您记得购买价格吗？\n19 答：我不记得。\n20 问：您说您的客户与\n21 Despins先生是朋友。\n22 您是如何得知的？\n23 答：我的客户给我发了电子邮件，并且——我的\n24 客户给我发了电子邮件，说他——\n25 Despins先生曾给我的客户打电话，而我的客户\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 89 页，共 96 页\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\n11:50\n\n11:50\n\n12:05\n\n12:05\n\n12:06\n\nYVer1f\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\n1 M. CONBOY\n\n2 说他们是很好的朋友。\n3 MAJOR先生：我们何不暂停记录几分钟。\n4 我只是想\n5 与一位同事商议并核对一些\n6 笔记，然后希望我们可以回来，\n7 我再问几个问题，然后\n8 结束。\n9 BASSETT先生：好的。\n10 （休庭。）\n11 MAJOR先生：感谢您，Conboy女士，\n12 也感谢各位律师给我几分钟时间。我\n13 只剩下非常少的几个问题。\n14 由MAJOR先生继续询问：\n15 问：Bassett先生和他的同事\n16 通过这个Zoom发布——公布了一封\n17 提及一名中国亿万富翁的电子邮件。\n18 您是否曾见过或与该\n19 中国亿万富翁交谈？\n20 答：没有。\n21 问：该中国亿万富翁是否曾与您的律所\n22 签署委托书？\n23 答：没有。\n24 问：Kwok先生是否曾与您的律所签署\n25 委托书？郭文贵诉Greenwich Land等案。88\n\n案号 22-50073 文书 2292-45 提交日期 10/26/23 登记日期 10/26/23 20:46:12 第 90 页，共 96 页\n\nMARGARET CONBOY· 保密\n\nSeptember 12, 2023\n\nM. CONBOY（康博伊）\nBASSETT先生：异议。形式。\n答：各实体——我的委托函是与各实体签订的。\n问：我的问题只是，Kwok先生（郭文贵）是否曾作为签署人，在与贵所签订的委托函上签字？\n答：没有。\nMAJOR先生：目前我们没有进一步的问题。\nBASSETT先生：我也没有追问。\n法庭记录员：还有别的吗？\nTHOMASON先生：没有。\n法庭记录员：谢谢。\nChris，你是否需要记录誊本的速记初稿和/或一份副本？\nMAJOR先生：我想要一份副本，但我们不需要速记初稿。如果可以的话，我们也想要一份迷你本。\nTHOMASON先生：你们会让她阅览并签字吗？我在想。你觉得需要有机会审阅记录誊本，以核对所有内容，还是你觉得有把握？\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治置地）等案。89\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\n12:06\n\n12:06\n\n12:07\n\nYVer1f\n案件 22-50073 文书 2292-45 于 10/26/23 提交，于 10/26/23 20:46:12 登记 第 91 页，共 96 页 MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 2023年9月12日\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n证人：没有。\nTHOMASON先生：那么没有，我希望能收到一份无需付费的礼遇副本。如果做不到，那么，您知道，我不需要副本。\nBASSETT先生：我相信——所以，我只是想想——标准交付时间又是多少？\n法庭记录员：是八个工作日，但如果您需要更快，我很乐意为您办理。而且您从未说明是否需要速记初稿。\nBASSETT先生：我认为我们不需要。如果——如果我的团队中有人告诉我我作出了错误决定，我会给您发电子邮件。\n（续于下一页，包括宣誓证明。）\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nYVer1f\n\n12:07\n\n12:08\n\n12:08\n案件 22-50073 文书 2292-45 于 10/26/23 提交，于 10/26/23 20:46:12 登记 第 92 页，共 96 页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\n12:08\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密\n\nM. CONBOY\n\n法庭记录员：好的。谢谢。\nBASSETT先生：非常感谢您，Conboy女士。我很感激。\n证人：谢谢。\n（记录时间：12:08 p.m.）\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）\n\n于2023年\n月\n日，在本人面前签署并宣誓。\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 2292-45 于 10/26/23 提交，于 10/26/23 20:46:12 登记 第 93 页，共 96 页\n\n2023年9月12日\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 KWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治置地）等案。\n证 明 书\n纽约州\n)\n) ss.：\n纽约县\n)\n\n本人，LISA M. MURACO（丽莎·M·穆拉科），纽约州、佛罗里达州和马萨诸塞州境内及代表该等州的公证人，特此证明：\n\n上述证言所载证人MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）已由本人依法宣誓，且该证言为该证人所作证词的真实记录。\n\n本人进一步证明，本人与本诉讼任何一方均无血亲或姻亲关系；且本人对本事项的结果不具有任何利害关系。\n\n兹证明，本人于2023年9月13日亲笔签署。\n\nLISA M. MURACO（丽莎·M·穆拉科）\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 2292-45 于 10/26/23 提交，于 10/26/23 20:46:12 登记 第 94 页，共 96 页\n索 引\n\n证人 页码\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）\nBASSETT先生 6\nMAJOR先生 82\n\n证 据\n\n说明 页码\nConboy证据1，Conboy证言 15\n2023年2月21日的记录誊本\n\nConboy证据2，\n\nConboy证据3，\n\nConboy证据4，2019年10月3日， 32\n电子邮件，贝茨编号标注为 WBAM_010076\n\nConboy证据5，2019年1月22日， 36\n电子邮件，贝茨编号标注为 WBAM_0002663\n\nConboy证据6，2019年1月6日， 38\n电子邮件，贝茨戳记为 WBAM_002803\n案件 22-50073 文书 2292-45 于 10/26/23 提交，于 10/26/23 20:46:12 登记 第 95 页，共 96 页 MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 2023年9月12日\n\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治置地）等案。\n\n证据索引（续）\n\n说明 页码\nConboy证据7，2019年7月12日，电子邮件 43\n邮件串，贝茨编号标注为 WBAM_003873\n\nConboy证据8，2020年12月15日， 50\n电子邮件，贝茨戳记为 WBAM_0038336\n\nConboy证据9，Whitman Breed Trustee（惠特曼·布里德受托人） 57\n分类账，贝茨编号标注为 WBAM_00002\n\n被指示不得回答的问题\n\n页码 行号\n68 2\n68 21\n70 20\n80 25\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376)\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 2292-45 于 10/26/23 提交，于 10/26/23 20:46:12 登记 第 96 页，共 96 页\n\n2023年9月12日\n\nEsquireSolutions.com\n\nMARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）·保密 KWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治置地）等案。\n\n以下记录誊本的更正表：\n\n案件名称：\nKWOK（郭文贵）诉 GREENWICH LAND（格林尼治置地）等案。\n证言日期：2023年9月12日，星期二\n证人：MARGARET CONBOY（玛格丽特·康博伊）\n更正：\n页码 行号\n现载内容 应改为\n理由\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n___ ___\n______________ ______________\n\n证人签名\n于2023年____月____________日\n在本人面前签署并宣誓。\n\n（公证人）\n本人委任届满日期：_______","key_entities":["Kwok","Je","Despins","Ho Wan Kwok","Paul Hastings","CIPA","Guo","Luc Despins"],"ecf_references":[],"word_count":19371,"status":"published","published_at":"2023-10-26 00:00:00","created_at":"2023-10-26","updated_at":"2026-08-23 22:01:22"}