{"id":"court_ctb_2292_53","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":2292,"sub_number":53,"doc_type":"EXHIBIT","filed_date":"2023-10-26","title":"Exhibit 53 EXHIBIT B","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"#### **Exhibit 53**\n\n# **EXHIBIT B**\n\n# **Exhibit 21**\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 4 of Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 3 of 51 52\n\n![](_page_3_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\nSeptember 11, 2023\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nYVer1f\n\nHING CHI NGOK· Highly Confidential\n\n|          | Page 5                                                                              |        | Page 7                                                             |\n|----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1        | VIDEOGRAPHER: This is Tape No. 1 to the                                             | 1<br>2 | ECHO LIM, having first been duly<br>sworn, interpreted as follows: |\n| 2        | videotaped deposition of Hing Chi Ngok in the                                       | 3      | HING CHI NGOK, having first been duly                              |\n| 3        | matter of Despins, Kwok (sic) v. Greenwich                                          | 4      | sworn, was deposed and testified as follows:                       |\n| 4<br>5   | Land, et al., being heard before the United<br>States Bankruptcy Court, District of | 5      |                                                                    |\n| 6        | Connecticut, Bridgeport Division, Case                                              | 6      | DIRECT EXAMINATION                                                 |\n| 7        | No. 22-50073.                                                                       | 7      | BY MR. LUFT:                                                       |\n| 8        | This deposition is being held at Meister                                            | 8      | Q Good morning, Ms. Ngok. How are you?                             |\n| 9        | Seelig & Fein on 9/11/2023 at 10:22 a.m. My                                         | 9      | A Good. Thank you.                                                 |\n| 10       | name is Debbie O'Toole. I'm the videographer.                                       | 10     | Q Ms. Ngok, I wanted to confirm that you                           |\n| 11       | The court reporter is Debbie Gentile.                                               | 11     | understood you're appearing both as an individual                  |\n| 12       | Counsel, will you please introduce                                                  | 12     | deponent today and as the corporate representative                 |\n| 13       | yourselves and affiliations? And the witness                                        | 13     | for Greenwich Land, correct?                                       |\n| 14       | will be sworn.                                                                      | 14     | A Yes.                                                             |\n| 15       | MR. LUFT: Good morning. My name is                                                  | 15     | MR. LUFT: And I'll ask the court reporter                          |\n| 16       | Avi Luft. I'm with the law firm of                                                  | 16     | to mark as Exhibit 1 a Chapter -- a copy of the                    |\n| 17       | Paul Hastings. I represent the Chapter 11                                           | 17     | Chapter 11 trustee's notice of deposition to                       |\n| 18       | trustee, Luc A. Despins. With me are my                                             | 18     | Hing Chi Ngok.                                                     |\n| 19       | colleagues, Doug Barron and Luyi Song.                                              | 19     | (Exhibit 1 was marked for I.D.)                                    |\n| 20       | MR. MAJOR: Good morning. Chris Major,                                               | 20     | (A discussion was held off the                                     |\n| 21       | Meister Seelig & Fein. We represent the                                             | 21     | stenographic record.)                                              |\n| 22       | defendants in this adversary proceeding,                                            | 22     | THE WITNESS: I am not able to read this.                           |\n| 23       | Ms. Guo and Greenwich Land, LLC, and we're                                          | 23     | BY MR. LUFT:                                                       |\n| 24       | representing the witness in this deposition.                                        | 24     | Q I understand.                                                    |\n| 25       | MR. INTRATER: Good morning.                                                         | 25     | Ms. Ngok, I've handed you what is a copy                           |\n|          |                                                                                     |        |                                                                    |\n|          |                                                                                     |        |                                                                    |\n|          | Page 6                                                                              |        | Page 8                                                             |\n| 1        | Zach Intrater, Brafman & Associates. I                                              | 1      | of the Chapter 11's notice of deposition to Hing Chi               |\n| 2        | represent Ms. Guo in this deposition.                                               | 2      | Ngok. Have you ever seen this document before?                     |\n| 3        | COURT REPORTER:<br>Usual stips?                                                     | 3      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                      |\n| 4        | MR. LUFT:<br>I don't know what they are, so                                         | 4      | THE WITNESS: I am not able to recognize                            |\n| 5        | we're going to just go until we figure it out.                                      | 5      | it. I cannot read English and I don't                              |\n| 6        | MR. MAJOR:<br>Well, I'd like to, just for --                                        | 6<br>7 | understand the content of this document.<br>BY MR. LUFT:           |\n| 7        | so we can get through this deposition, I'd like                                     | 8      | Q Okay.                                                            |\n| 8        | to have a stipulation that all objections                                           | 9      | MR. LUFT: I'm going to mark as Ngok                                |\n| 9        | except as to the form of the question are                                           | 10     | Deposition Exhibit 2 a copy of the Chapter 11                      |\n| 10       | reserved.<br>This way we don't have to hash out                                     | 11     | trustee's notice of deposition of Greenwich                        |\n| 11       | every potential objection.                                                          | 12     | Land, LLC, pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil                       |\n| 12       | MR. LUFT:<br>That's fine.<br>That's my                                              | 13     | Procedure 30(b)(6).                                                |\n| 13       | understanding of the rules anyway.<br>My point                                      | 14     | (Exhibit 2 was marked for I.D.)                                    |\n| 14       | was not that there were none, just it's what                                        | 15     | BY MR. LUFT:                                                       |\n| 15       | they are.                                                                           | 16     | Q Ms. Ngok, I've handed you what has been                          |\n| 16       | MR. MAJOR:<br>Okay.                                                                 | 17     | marked as Exhibit 2, which is a copy of the notice                 |\n| 17<br>18 | MR. LUFT:<br>And --<br>COURT REPORTER:<br>Please raise your                         | 18     | of deposition for Greenwich Land, LLC. Have you                    |\n|          |                                                                                     | 19     | ever seen this document before?                                    |\n| 19<br>20 | right --<br>MR. LUFT:<br>Sorry.                                                     | 20     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                      |\n| 21       | Just so it's clear for the record, this                                             | 21     | THE WITNESS: I do not know what you mean.                          |\n| 22       | deposition is of Ms. Hing Chi Ngok and of                                           | 22     | INTERPRETER: Can the interpreter                                   |\n| 23       | Greenwich Land.<br>So it's both defendants.                                         | 23     | reinterpret the question? That's what Ms. Ngok                     |\n| 24       |                                                                                     | 24     | is requesting.                                                     |\n| 25       |                                                                                     | 25     | MR. LUFT: Okay. My only question is                                |\n\n![](_page_4_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n|    | Page 9                                               |    | Page 11                                              |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | whether she has seen this document before.           |    |                                                      |\n| 2  | (Interpreter speaking Mandarin.)                     |    |                                                      |\n| 3  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |    |                                                      |\n| 4  | THE WITNESS: I don't understand this                 |    |                                                      |\n| 5  | document.                                            |    |                                                      |\n| 6  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |    |                                                      |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n| 7  | Q Ms. Ngok, were you provided a translation          |    |                                                      |\n| 8  | of the notice of deposition by your counsel setting  |    |                                                      |\n| 9  | out in Chinese what the deposition topics were for   |    |                                                      |\n| 10 | today's deposition on behalf of Greenwich Land, LLC? |    |                                                      |\n| 11 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. Instruct               |    |                                                      |\n| 12 | the witness not to answer on the grounds of          |    |                                                      |\n| 13 | privilege.                                           | 13 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 14 | THE WITNESS: Okay.                                   | 14 | Q Ms. Ngok, I am going to ask you a series           |\n| 15 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 15 | of questions, just like I did last time. If for any  |\n| 16 | Q Are you going to follow your counsel's             | 16 | reason you do not understand my question, will you   |\n| 17 | instruction?                                         | 17 | let me know?                                         |\n| 18 | A Correct.                                           | 18 | A Okay.                                              |\n| 19 | Q Ms. Ngok, are you prepared to testify on           | 19 | Q If for -- and if -- can we have an                 |\n| 20 | the 17 topics listed in the Greenwich Land           | 20 | agreement that if you do not tell me that you don't  |\n| 21 | deposition notice?                                   | 21 | understand my question, then I can assume you did    |\n| 22 | A Yes.                                               | 22 | understand it?                                       |\n| 23 | Q Okay. You can put that aside.                      | 23 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n| 24 | Ms. Ngok, as you know, I took your                   | 24 | THE WITNESS: I don't quite understand                |\n| 25 | deposition on January 5, 2023, correct?              | 25 | what you mean by that. Can you explain?              |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n| 1  | Page 10<br>A In January, yes. I remember.            | 1  | Page 12<br>BY MR. LUFT:                              |\n| 2  | Q The rules are the same for this                    | 2  | Q Sure. If for -- if I ask you a question            |\n| 3  | deposition. But if you'll indulge me, I'll just go   | 3  | and you don't tell me that you don't understand it,  |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n| 4  | over a couple of them, okay?                         | 4  | is it fair for me to assume that you do understand   |\n| 5  | A Yes, please.                                       | 5  | it?                                                  |\n| 6  | Q Ms. Ngok, you understand that you're               | 6  | A No. If I didn't understand a question,             |\n| 7  | testifying under oath today?                         | 7  | you can't assume that I understand a question.       |\n| 8  | A Of course.                                         | 8  | Q Thank you. That's not what I was saying,           |\n| 9  | Q You understand that means you have to              | 9  | so this is a perfect example. Let's start again.     |\n| 10 | testify truthfully?                                  | 10 | If you don't understand my question, will            |\n| 11 | A Correct.                                           | 11 | you tell me?                                         |\n| 12 | Q And you understand that you may not omit           | 12 | A I will not. If I don't understand your             |\n| 13 | information that you know that is called for by the  | 13 | question, I will not tell you, because I didn't      |\n| 14 | question, correct?                                   | 14 | understand.                                          |\n| 15 | A Of course.                                         | 15 | Q Will you tell me that you don't understand         |\n|    |                                                      | 16 | my question?                                         |\n|    |                                                      | 17 | A Yes, of course.                                    |\n|    |                                                      | 18 | Q And if I ask you a question and you do not         |\n|    |                                                      | 19 | tell me that you don't understand, can I assume that |\n|    |                                                      | 20 | you do understand my question?                       |\n|    |                                                      | 21 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n|    |                                                      | 22 | THE WITNESS: Of course. That works.                  |\n|    |                                                      | 23 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n|    |                                                      | 24 | Q Great. Okay.                                       |\n|    |                                                      | 25 | Ms. Ngok, as we've discussed, you're                 |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n\n|    | Page 13                                                 |    | Page 15                                               |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | appearing on behalf of yourself and for the entity      |    |                                                       |\n| 2  | Greenwich Land today?                                   |    |                                                       |\n| 3  | A Yes.                                                  |    |                                                       |\n| 4  | Q If in answering a question your answer                |    |                                                       |\n| 5  | would differ from what -- your answer as an             |    |                                                       |\n| 6  | individual, as opposed to your answer on behalf of      |    |                                                       |\n| 7  | Greenwich Land, will you let me know?                   |    |                                                       |\n|    |                                                         | 8  | Q Other than Mr. Major and Mr. Intrater,              |\n| 8  | A Yes.                                                  |    |                                                       |\n| 9  | Q Ms. Ngok, what did you do to prepare for              | 9  | have you discussed this deposition with anyone else?  |\n| 10 | your deposition today?                                  | 10 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                         |\n| 11 | A I did. I prepared with my attorneys.                  | 11 | THE WITNESS: No.                                      |\n| 12 | Q And who are your attorneys today?                     | 12 | BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n| 13 | THE WITNESS: I'm sorry, Gentlemen. I                    | 13 | Q Other than Mr. Intrater and Mr. Major,              |\n| 14 | can't pronounce your names.                             | 14 | have you discussed this case with anyone else?        |\n| 15 | But these two gentlemen sitting right here              | 15 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                         |\n| 16 | (indicating).                                           | 16 | THE WITNESS: No.                                      |\n| 17 | BY MR. LUFT:                                            | 17 | BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n| 18 | Q Mr. Major and --                                      | 18 | Q In preparing for this deposition, did you           |\n| 19 | MR. LUFT: Intrater? Is that                             | 19 | review any documents?                                 |\n| 20 | MR. INTRATER: That's great. Perfect.                    | 20 | A I did.                                              |\n| 21 | THE WITNESS: I'm sorry. I don't have any                | 21 | Q What documents did you review?                      |\n| 22 | mental note of any English name. Sorry about            | 22 | A The same documents I review for the last            |\n| 23 | that.                                                   | 23 | deposition.                                           |\n| 24 | MR. LUFT: That's fine.                                  | 24 | Q Can you remind me what documents those              |\n| 25 | For the record can we agree that she has                | 25 | were?                                                 |\n|    |                                                         |    |                                                       |\n| 1  | Page 14<br>pointed to Mr. Major and Mr. Intrater as her | 1  | Page 16<br>A Some -- something like some sort of bank |\n| 2  | counsel who she met with?                               | 2  | documents. But to be very frank with you, I don't     |\n|    |                                                         |    |                                                       |\n| 3  | MR. MAJOR: Yes.                                         | 3  | even understand them.                                 |\n| 4  | MR. LUFT: Okay.                                         | 4  | Q Do you recall what bank documents they              |\n| 5  | THE WITNESS: (In English) Sorry about                   | 5  | were?                                                 |\n| 6  | that.                                                   | 6  | A I can't remember.                                   |\n| 7  | MR. LUFT: That's okay.                                  | 7  | Q Other than preparing for this deposition,           |\n| 8  | THE WITNESS: Okay.                                      | 8  | had you ever seen these bank documents before?        |\n| 9  | BY MR. LUFT:                                            | 9  | A No.                                                 |\n| 10 | Q How many times did you meet with them in              | 10 | Q Were they bank documents related to your            |\n| 11 | preparation for this deposition?                        | 11 | personal bank accounts?                               |\n| 12 | A Twice.                                                | 12 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                         |\n| 13 | Q When did you meet with them?                          | 13 | THE WITNESS: No.                                      |\n| 14 | A I can't remember specifically when, but it            | 14 | BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n| 15 | happens within a month.                                 | 15 | Q Were they bank accounts related to                  |\n| 16 | Q How long did you meet with them?                      | 16 | Greenwich Land's bank accounts?                       |\n| 17 | A It could range from one to two hours or               | 17 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                         |\n| 18 | two to three hours.                                     | 18 | THE WITNESS: They are not statements. I               |\n| 19 | Q When you met with your attorney,                      | 19 | don't know what they are. I am not even -- I'm        |\n| 20 | Mr. Intrater or Mr. Major, was there anyone else        | 20 | not able to tell what they are.                       |\n| 21 | present?                                                | 21 | BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n| 22 | A Interpreters -- interpreter.                          | 22 | Q Can you give me your best description of            |\n| 23 | INTERPRETER: Sorry.                                     | 23 | those bank documents?                                 |\n| 24 | BY MR. LUFT:                                            | 24 | A Okay. I don't know if they are even a               |\n|    |                                                         | 25 | document -- they are even a document. I have seen     |\n|    |                                                         |    |                                                       |\n\n![](_page_6_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\nSeptember 11, 2023\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nYVer1f\n\nHING CHI NGOK· Highly Confidential\n\n| 1        | Page 17<br>them. I can't recall. I can't tell the content of                                    | 1        | Page 19<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. Instruct                                     |\n|----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2        | it.                                                                                             | 2        | the witness not to answer on the grounds of                                           |\n| 3        | Q But they were documents that you looked at                                                    | 3        | privilege.                                                                            |\n| 4        | to prepare for this deposition?                                                                 | 4        | MR. LUFT: On what grounds can that be                                                 |\n| 5        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                                   | 5        | privileged? I'm asking just the name of who's                                         |\n| 6        | THE WITNESS: Correct.                                                                           | 6        | the person who made the decision.                                                     |\n| 7        | MR. LUFT: Mr. Major, I don't believe                                                            | 7        | MR. MAJOR: The decision that you're                                                   |\n| 8        | we've received any bank documents. Have they                                                    | 8        | referring to -- first of all, you're                                                  |\n| 9        | been -- the documents the witness is referring                                                  | 9        | presupposing that the decision was the decision                                       |\n| 10       | to, have they been produced to us?                                                              | 10       | of Greenwich Land. But the contemplation of                                           |\n| 11       | MR. MAJOR: I don't know what documents                                                          | 11       | hiring or separating from counsel is                                                  |\n| 12       | the witness is specifically referring to, but                                                   | 12       | privileged.                                                                           |\n| 13       | we have produced bank records to you,                                                           | 13       | MR. LUFT: I'm not asking about the                                                    |\n| 14       | specifically from The Bank of Princeton. I                                                      | 14       | content; I just want to know who was the person                                       |\n| 15       | know that my firm handled that production. I                                                    | 15       | who made the decision. That's not privileged.                                         |\n| 16       | know the law firm of Updike, Kelly & Spellacy,                                                  | 16       | It doesn't call for legal advice or anything                                          |\n| 17       | I believe, produced some bank records to you in                                                 | 17       | else.                                                                                 |\n| 18       | advance of the just closed Rule 2004 exam. I                                                    | 18       | MR. MAJOR: The decision of either hiring                                              |\n| 19       | assume that's what the witness is referring to,                                                 | 19       | or separating from counsel is a privileged                                            |\n| 20       | but I don't know.                                                                               | 20       | matter.                                                                               |\n| 21       | MR. LUFT: Okay. I'll just ask that on a                                                         | 21       | MR. LUFT: Correct, but the person who --                                              |\n| 22       | break you confer with her, and if there are                                                     | 22       | the name of the person who decided that is not                                        |\n| 23<br>24 | documents that we haven't received yet, if you<br>just let us know and produce them, okay?      | 23<br>24 | privileged.<br>MR. MAJOR: To the extent it -- the                                     |\n| 25       | MR. MAJOR: Yes. And I do not think there                                                        | 25       | question necessarily calls for discussions with                                       |\n|          |                                                                                                 |          |                                                                                       |\n|          |                                                                                                 |          |                                                                                       |\n|          | Page 18                                                                                         |          | Page 20                                                                               |\n| 1        | are documents that we have that you don't have                                                  | 1        | counsel.                                                                              |\n| 2<br>3   | yet, but I will certainly triple-check that<br>during a break.                                  | 2<br>3   | MR. LUFT: No, it just calls for the name,<br>the name of the person. She is here as   |\n| 4        | MR. LUFT: Terrific.                                                                             | 4        | Greenwich Land's representative; I'm free to                                          |\n| 5        | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                    | 5        | ask her who's the person who made the decision.                                       |\n| 6        | Q Other than the documents you've referred                                                      | 6        | That's not a privileged question.                                                     |\n| 7        | to as the \"bank documents,\" are there any other                                                 | 7        | MR. MAJOR: You can ask questions about                                                |\n| 8        | documents you looked at to prepare for this                                                     | 8        | decisions that Greenwich Land made on other                                           |\n| 9        | deposition?                                                                                     | 9        | matters, but not on counsel.                                                          |\n| 10       | A There must be some, but I can't remember                                                      | 10       | MR. LUFT: Okay. I disagree with you, I                                                |\n| 11       | what they are.                                                                                  | 11       | think you're obstructing, and you haven't given                                       |\n| 12       | Q When was the last time you reviewed these                                                     | 12       | me any explanation why the name of an                                                 |\n| 13       | documents?                                                                                      | 13       | individual calls for the provision of legal                                           |\n| 14       | A Probably approximately three weeks ago,                                                       | 14       | advice.                                                                               |\n| 15       | but I don't remember specifically when.                                                         | 15       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                          |\n| 16       | Q Okay. Ms. Ngok, when I deposed you in                                                         | 16       | Q Ms. Ngok, are you going to follow your                                              |\n| 17       | January, you were represented by a different lawyer                                             | 17       | counsel's instruction?                                                                |\n| 18       | from a different law firm, correct?                                                             | 18       | A Correct.                                                                            |\n| 19       | A Correct.                                                                                      | 19       | Q Ms. Ngok, were you the person who made the                                          |\n| 20       | Q And that was Mr. Goldstein from the Updike                                                    | 20       | decision to replace Updike Kelly with Mr. Major's                                     |\n| 21       | Kelly firm, correct?                                                                            | 21       | firm?                                                                                 |\n| 22       | A I don't remember.                                                                             | 22<br>23 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. Instruct<br>the witness not to answer on the grounds of |\n| 23<br>24 | Q Who made the decision at Greenwich Land to<br>change counsel from Updike Kelly to Mr. Major's | 24       | privilege.                                                                            |\n| 25       | firm?                                                                                           | 25       |                                                                                       |\n\n![](_page_7_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n|    | Page 21                                              |    | Page 23                                              |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 1  | before you signed the supplemental responses to the  |\n| 2  | Q Ms. Ngok, are you going to follow your             | 2  | interrogatories?                                     |\n| 3  | counsel's direction?                                 | 3  | A I did.                                             |\n| 4  | A Correct.                                           | 4  | Q And before signing did you agree that all          |\n| 5  | Q Ms. Ngok, I'm going to ask the court               | 5  | the information included in the document was         |\n| 6  | reporter to mark as Ngok Deposition Exhibit 3 a copy | 6  | accurate and true?                                   |\n| 7  | of defendant Greenwich Land, LLC's supplemental      | 7  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n| 8  | responses and objections to the first set of         | 8  | THE WITNESS: I believe so.                           |\n| 9  | interrogatories by plaintiff Luc Despins, the        | 9  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 10 | Chapter 11 trustee.                                  | 10 | Q Ms. Guo, if we look at response to                 |\n| 11 | (Exhibit 3 was marked for I.D.)                      |    |                                                      |\n|    |                                                      | 11 | Interrogatory No. 1 --                               |\n| 12 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 12 | INTERPRETER: Ms. -- did you say,                     |\n| 13 | Q Ms. Ngok --                                        | 13 | \"Ms. Guo\"?                                           |\n| 14 | (A discussion was held off the                       | 14 | MR. LUFT: Sorry. Ms. Ngok.                           |\n| 15 | stenographic record.)                                | 15 | INTERPRETER: Sorry. Okay.                            |\n| 16 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 16 | THE WITNESS: Okay.                                   |\n| 17 | Q Ms. Ngok, I've put in front of you as              | 17 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 18 | marked as Exhibit 3 a document titled \"Defendant     | 18 | Q -- there's a sentence that says \"Greenwich         |\n| 19 | Greenwich Land, LLC's Supplemental Responses and     | 19 | Land's sole purpose is to own a residential property |\n| 20 | Objections to the First Set of Interrogatories by    | 20 | in Greenwich, Connecticut.\"                          |\n| 21 | Plaintiff Luc Despins,\" the Chapter 11 trustee. Do   | 21 | A Correct.                                           |\n| 22 | you see that?                                        | 22 | Q Is that true?                                      |\n| 23 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        | 23 | A Correct.                                           |\n| 24 | THE WITNESS: Yes, I see it.                          | 24 | Q So when you say \"Greenwich Land's sole             |\n| 25 |                                                      | 25 | purpose is to own a residential property in          |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n|    | Page 22                                              |    | Page 24                                              |\n| 1  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 1  | Greenwich, Connecticut,\" what do you mean?           |\n| 2  | Q If you turn to the last page of the                | 2  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n| 3  | document, you'll see a signature line for Greenwich  | 3  | THE WITNESS: I don't understand this                 |\n| 4  | Land. It says by Hing Chi Ngok, \"Title: Sole         | 4  | question. Can you please clarify?                    |\n| 5  | Member.\"                                             | 5  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 6  | INTERPRETER: Sorry.                                  | 6  | Q My question is simply there's a statement          |\n| 7  | THE WITNESS: Yes.                                    | 7  | in the interrogatory, and I just want to understand  |\n| 8  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 8  | what Greenwich Land meant by that statement.         |\n| 9  | Q Do you see that, Ms. Ngok?                         | 9  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n| 10 | A I see it.                                          | 10 | THE WITNESS: Can you please tell me which            |\n| 11 | Q And whose signature is that?                       | 11 | statement?                                           |\n| 12 | A It looks like my signature, but I cannot           | 12 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 13 | be certain that it is mine.                          | 13 | Q Sure. It is on the response to                     |\n| 14 | Q The date of this document is September 9,          | 14 | Interrogatory No. 1. There's a sentence that says    |\n| 15 | 2023, two days ago.                                  | 15 | \"Greenwich Land's sole purpose is to own a           |\n| 16 | A Two days ago?                                      | 16 | residential property in Greenwich, Connecticut.\"     |\n| 17 | Q Yes.                                               | 17 | A Correct.                                           |\n| 18 | Do you recall signing responses --                   | 18 | Q And my under -- my question is what does           |\n| 19 | interrogatory responses two days ago?                | 19 | Greenwich Land mean by that statement?               |\n| 20 | A I believe so.                                      | 20 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n| 21 | Q And the document indicates that you were           | 21 | THE WITNESS: I don't know what you mean              |\n| 22 | provided a translation of this English document into | 22 | by that. This company owns properties, isn't         |\n| 23 | Mandarin; is that correct?                           | 23 | it?                                                  |\n| 24 | A Correct.                                           |    |                                                      |\n| 25 | Q Did you read that Mandarin translation             |    |                                                      |\n\n![](_page_8_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n#### Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 9 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 10 of 52\n\n![](_page_9_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n![](_page_9_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 10 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 11 of 52\n\nSeptember 11, 2023\n\n800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com\n\nYVer1f\n\nHING CHI NGOK· Highly Confidential\n\n| 1        | Page 29<br>THE WITNESS: I don't know about that too.         | 1        | Page 31<br>discussing?                                                                    |\n|----------|--------------------------------------------------------------|----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2        | BY MR. LUFT:                                                 | 2        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             |\n| 3        | Q Since Greenwich Land has been founded,                     | 3        | THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                                               |\n| 4        | who -- what individuals have had the right to spend          | 4        | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                              |\n| 5        | money on behalf of Greenwich -- or let me strike             | 5        | Q Do you have any idea where Greenwich Land                                               |\n| 6        | that.                                                        | 6        | gets the money from that you use to pay for personal                                      |\n| 7        | Since Greenwich Land has been founded,                       | 7        | expenses unrelated to the two houses we've been                                           |\n| 8        | what individuals have had the right to spend money           | 8        | discussing?                                                                               |\n| 9        | from Greenwich Land accounts?                                | 9        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             |\n| 10       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                | 10       | THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                                               |\n| 11       | THE WITNESS: I don't know.                                   | 11       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                              |\n| 12       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                 | 12       | Q Where does Greenwich Land get the money                                                 |\n| 13       | Q Ms. Ngok, do you have the right to spend                   | 13       | from that it uses to pay for expenses related to the                                      |\n| 14       | Greenwich Land's money?                                      | 14       | two houses we've been discussing?                                                         |\n| 15       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                | 15       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             |\n| 16       | THE WITNESS: I believe I do.                                 | 16       | INTERPRETER: Can the interpreter                                                          |\n| 17       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                 | 17       | reinterpret?                                                                              |\n| 18       | Q What are you allowed to spend Greenwich                    | 18       | THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                                               |\n| 19       | Land's money on?                                             | 19       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                              |\n| 20       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                | 20       | Q Who at Greenwich Land would know where it                                               |\n| 21       | THE WITNESS: It's just like the family                       | 21       | gets the money it spends?                                                                 |\n| 22       | day-to-day expenditures.                                     | 22       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             |\n| 23       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                 | 23       | THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                                               |\n| 24       | Q Related to the properties or any                           | 24       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                              |\n| 25       | expenditures related to the family?                          | 25       | Q Who at Greenwich Land would know who                                                    |\n|          |                                                              |          |                                                                                           |\n|          | Page 30                                                      |          | Page 32                                                                                   |\n| 1        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                | 1        | provides the money that goes into Greenwich Land's                                        |\n| 2        | THE WITNESS: It's like the family                            | 2        | bank accounts?                                                                            |\n| 3        | expenditure. For instance, like landscaping,                 | 3        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             |\n| 4        | utilities.                                                   | 4        | THE WITNESS: I'm not clear about that.                                                    |\n| 5        | BY MR. LUFT:                                                 | 5        | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                              |\n| 6        | Q How about personal expenses not related to                 | 6        | Q Do you know who provides the funds that                                                 |\n| 7        | upkeep of the house for -- let me just stop there.           | 7        | have been placed into Greenwich Land's bank accounts                                      |\n| 8        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                | 8        | since its -- since they've been open till today?                                          |\n| 9        | THE WITNESS: Sometime, yes.                                  | 9        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             |\n| 10       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                 | 10       | THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                                               |\n| 11       | Q What personal expenses not related to the                  | 11       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                                              |\n| 12       | house do you spend Greenwich Land money on?                  | 12       | Q Ms. Guo, do any -- sorry. Let me strike                                                 |\n| 13       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                | 13       | that. Let's get some clarity.                                                             |\n| 14       | THE WITNESS: Nothing too specific.                           | 14<br>15 | Ms. Ngok, my understanding is that your<br>last name is spelled N-G-O-K; is that correct? |\n| 15<br>16 | BY MR. LUFT:<br>Q Give me your best recollection of personal | 16       | A Correct.                                                                                |\n| 17       | expenses not related to the upkeep of the two houses         | 17       | Q In response -- if we look at Exhibit 3, in                                              |\n| 18       | you've mentioned for which you've used Greenwich             | 18       | response to our interrogatories, all the references                                       |\n| 19       | Land money.                                                  | 19       | are either to a \"Ms. Guo\" or a \"Mrs. Guo.\" So my                                          |\n| 20       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                | 20       | first question is are you -- is the references to                                         |\n| 21       | THE WITNESS: I don't remember.                               | 21       | \"Mrs. Guo\" to be understood to be a reference to                                          |\n| 22       | BY MR. LUFT:                                                 | 22       | you, Ms. Ngok?                                                                            |\n| 23       | Q What's the source of Greenwich Land's                      | 23       | A Correct.                                                                                |\n| 24       | money that is used to pay for personal expenses not          | 24       | Q And are the references to \"Ms. Guo\" also                                                |\n| 25       | related to the upkeep of the two houses we've been           | 25       | intended to be a reference to you, Ms. Ngok?                                              |\n\n![](_page_10_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 11 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 12 of 52\n\nPage 33 1 A Correct. 2 Q Ms. Guo -- sorry. Let me strike that. 3 (Witness speaking Mandarin.) 4 INTERPRETER: She said she couldn't hear 5 me clear. 6 You okay? 7 (A discussion was held off the 8 stenographic record.) 9 BY MR. LUFT: 10 Q Ms. Ngok, have you ever received money 11 from an entity called Hudson Diamond New York? 12 A I don't remember. 13 Q I'm going to ask the court reporter to 14 mark as Ngok Deposition Exhibit 4 a document Bates 15 stamped 19 (Exhibit 4 was marked for I.D.) 20 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. To the 21 extent that the question is to ask the witness 22 to read the document and state whether she can 23 identify it, I just want to note for the 24 record, she does not read English so would not 25 have the ability to answer that question. Page 34 1 MR. LUFT: Why don't you let me ask my 2 question and then object to it? 3 MR. MAJOR: Okay. I just didn't know if 4 you -- if your statement was a question. It's not a 7 question, right? 8 BY MR. LUFT: 17 BY MR. LUFT: 18 Q Ms. Ngok -- 19 A Yes. 20 Q -- 22 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 23 THE WITNESS: I do not know. 24 BY MR. LUFT: 25 Q Page 35 1 2 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 3 THE WITNESS: I do not know. 4 BY MR. LUFT: 5 Q Tell me everything you know about Hudson 6 Diamond New York. 7 A I've never heard of this company before. 8 Q 11 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 16 BY MR. LUFT: 19 A Yes. 20 Q 22 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 23 THE WITNESS: Page 36 1 MR. LUFT: Okay. Why don't we take a 2 short break? 'Cause I'm going to go for a 3 while after that. 4 MR. MAJOR: Sure. 5 VIDEOGRAPHER: Okay. We're off the 6 record. The time is 11:25. 7 (A recess was taken.) 8 VIDEOGRAPHER: We're back on the record. 9 The time is 11:46. 10 (A discussion was held off the 11 stenographic record.) 12 BY MR. LUFT: 22 MR. LUFT: The document's upside-down for 23 the witness. 24 BY MR. LUFT: 25 Q Ms. Ngok, before you Exhibit 5, as I said,\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 12 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 13 of 52\n\n![](_page_12_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 13 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 14 of 52\n\n| Page 41                                                                       | Page 43                              |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------|\n|                                                                               | 1<br>BY MR. LUFT:                    |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               | 14<br>BY MR. LUFT:                   |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n| 16<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                            |                                      |\n| 17<br>Q Ms. Ngok, what address does Greenwich Land                            |                                      |\n| 18<br>use for its banking?                                                    |                                      |\n| 19<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                           |                                      |\n| 20<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                             |                                      |\n| 21<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                            |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n| Page 42                                                                       | Page 44                              |\n| 1<br>INTERPRETER: She's asking a question.                                    | 1<br>THE WITNESS: I do not remember. |\n| 2<br>THE WITNESS: I am unable to tell.                                        | 2<br>BY MR. LUFT:                    |\n| 3<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                             |                                      |\n| 4<br>Q Ms. Ngok, what is the name of the company<br>5<br>that owns your home? |                                      |\n| 6<br>A Let me think about it.                                                 |                                      |\n| 7<br>Okay. I -- I struggle with spelling out                                  |                                      |\n| 8<br>the name of the company, so I used to use some                           |                                      |\n| 9<br>Chinese similar pronunciation to write in Chinese                        |                                      |\n| 10<br>character. It's called Guan Lei Chi.                                    |                                      |\n| 11<br>INTERPRETER: G-U-A-N L-E-I C-H-I.                                       |                                      |\n| 12<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                            |                                      |\n| 13<br>Q Is that in pinyin? Is that in pinyin?                                 |                                      |\n| 14<br>A Yes, it is pinyin.                                                    |                                      |\n| 15<br>INTERPRETER: Ms. Guo -- Ms. Guo recorded                                |                                      |\n| 16<br>it down in Chinese character; the interpreter                           |                                      |\n| 17<br>made into pinyin.                                                       |                                      |\n| 18<br>MR. LUFT: Okay.                                                         |                                      |\n| 19<br>THE WITNESS: (In English) Sorry.                                        |                                      |\n| 20<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                            |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n|                                                                               |                                      |\n\n![](_page_13_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 14 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 15 of 52\n\n|                                               | Page 45<br>Page 47                            |\n|-----------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------|\n|                                               | 1                                             |\n|                                               | 2<br>MR. MAJOR: There's no question.          |\n|                                               | 3<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n| 15<br>BY MR. LUFT:                            |                                               |\n| 16<br>Q                                       |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n| 18<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.           |                                               |\n| 19<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.             |                                               |\n| 20<br>MR. LUFT: Let's mark as Exhibit 8 a     |                                               |\n| 21<br>document bearing the Bates Stamp        |                                               |\n| 22                                            | 22<br>MR. LUFT: Okay. Let's mark as Exh bit 9 |\n| 23<br>(Exhibit 8 was marked for I.D.)         | 23<br>a document                              |\n| 24<br>INTERPRETER: Thank you.                 |                                               |\n| 25<br>MR. LUFT: Of course.                    |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n| 1<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             | Page 46<br>Page 48<br>1                       |\n|                                               |                                               |\n| 2<br>Q And I'll represent to you that this is |                                               |\n| 3<br>anothe                                   | 3<br>(Exhibit 9 was marked for I.D.)          |\n|                                               | 4<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n| 8<br>A Okay.                                  |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n| 19<br>BY MR. LUFT:                            |                                               |\n| 20<br>Q                                       |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               | 23<br>Q                                       |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n|                                               |                                               |\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 15 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 16 of 52\n\n![](_page_15_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 16 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 17 of 52\n\n| Page 53                                       | Page 55                                               |\n|-----------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1<br>MR. LUFT: Let's mark as Exhibit 11 a     | 1<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                    |\n| 2<br>document bearing the Bates stamp         | 2<br>THE WITNESS: I can't tell. I can't read.         |\n|                                               | 3<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                     |\n|                                               | 4<br>Q                                                |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               | 7<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                    |\n|                                               | 8<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know why.                  |\n| 9<br>(Exhibit 11 was marked for I.D.)         | 9<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                     |\n| 10<br>BY MR. LUFT:                            | 10<br>Q                                               |\n| 11<br>Q                                       |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               | 15<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                   |\n| 16<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.           | 16<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.                     |\n| 17<br>THE WITNESS: I don't know. I can't -- I | 17<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                    |\n| 18<br>don't recognize this document.          | 18<br>Q                                               |\n| 19<br>BY MR. LUFT:                            |                                                       |\n| 20<br>Q                                       |                                                       |\n|                                               | 21<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form and assumes        |\n|                                               | 22<br>a fact not established.                         |\n| 23<br>A I don't remember.                     | 23<br>MR. LUFT: What fact is that?                    |\n| 24<br>Q                                       | 24<br>MR. MAJOR: Multiple facts in your               |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               | 25<br>question -- alleged facts in your question.     |\n| Page 54                                       | Page 56                                               |\n| 1                                             | 1                                                     |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n| 5<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.            |                                                       |\n| 6<br>THE WITNESS:                             | 6<br>MR. LUFT: We just walked through all the         |\n| 7<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             | 7<br>documents, Mr. Major, showing that transfer,     |\n| 8<br>Q Okay.                                  |                                                       |\n|                                               | 8<br>right? What more foundation could we have?       |\n|                                               | 9<br>MR. MAJOR: You're questioning a witness          |\n|                                               | 10<br>using English language documents even though    |\n|                                               | 11<br>you know she only reads Mandarin and trying to  |\n|                                               | 12<br>ask questions off of these documents. So I      |\n|                                               | 13<br>objected to the question; I didn't instruct the |\n| 14<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.           | 14<br>witness not to answer. But it's an improper     |\n| 15<br>THE WITNESS: I -- I can't read these    | 15<br>question, so I object to it.                    |\n| 16<br>words.                                  | 16<br>MR. LUFT: Mr. Major, these are the bank         |\n| 17<br>BY MR. LUFT:                            | 17<br>records and the statements of your client.      |\n| 18<br>Q                                       | 18<br>That they happen to be in English and you put   |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               | 19<br>up a witness that doesn't speak English is your |\n|                                               | 20<br>choice, but I can only use the records of the   |\n|                                               | 21<br>company.                                        |\n|                                               | 22<br>MR. MAJOR: I don't think these are              |\n|                                               | 23<br>documents we produced to you, based on the      |\n|                                               | 24<br>Bates numbering.                                |\n|                                               | 25<br>MR. LUFT: You're right, Mr. Major. Some         |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n|                                               |                                                       |\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 17 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 18 of 52\n\n![](_page_17_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 18 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 19 of 52\n\n![](_page_18_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 19 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 20 of 52\n\n| Page 65<br>1                                          | Page 67                                                                                 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n|                                                       | 1<br>reason for the objection.<br>The other reason is                                   |\n|                                                       | 2<br>she is the only person left at Greenwich Land,                                     |\n|                                                       | 3<br>so if she doesn't know, the answer is obvious.                                     |\n|                                                       | 4<br>But I can't -- I mean, I guess if you want                                         |\n|                                                       | 5<br>me to, I could try to go back if you're asking                                     |\n| 6<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                    | 6<br>me the basis for all of my objections.                                             |\n| 7<br>THE WITNESS: This one (indicating),              | 7<br>MR. LUFT:<br>No.                                                                   |\n| 8<br>right?                                           | 8<br>MR. MAJOR:<br>I'd have to -- there have been                                       |\n| 9<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                     | 9<br>a lot of questions.                                                                |\n| 10<br>Q Yes, ma'am. The first line and then the       | 10<br>MR. LUFT:<br>I don't think objecting to                                           |\n| 11<br>second line.                                    | 11<br>questions because you think the answer is                                         |\n| 12<br>A Yes, I see it.                                | 12<br>obvious is a basis for objecting to a                                             |\n|                                                       | 13<br>question --                                                                       |\n|                                                       | 14<br>MR. MAJOR:<br>But the main reason for the                                         |\n|                                                       | 15<br>objections is it was a nonsensical question:                                      |\n|                                                       | 16<br>You're asking a witness who didn't know a fact                                    |\n|                                                       | 17<br>if she knew who knew that fact so --                                              |\n|                                                       | 18<br>MR. LUFT:<br>Well, she's the corporate                                            |\n|                                                       | 19<br>representative for the company; this is a house                                   |\n|                                                       | 20<br>that the company alleges that it owns.<br>I don't                                 |\n|                                                       | 21<br>think there's anything crazy about asking them                                    |\n|                                                       | 22<br>who would know what law firm -- who hired the                                     |\n|                                                       | 23<br>law firm that represented them.                                                   |\n|                                                       | 24<br>So we'll move on.<br>I understand -- I'm                                          |\n|                                                       | 25<br>aware that you made an objection --                                               |\n| Page 66                                               | Page 68                                                                                 |\n|                                                       | 1<br>MR. MAJOR: I wasn't instructing the<br>2<br>witness not to answer, and I try to be |\n|                                                       | 3<br>extremely judicious when I object so that I                                        |\n|                                                       | 4<br>don't interfere with your transcript. And                                          |\n|                                                       | 5<br>that's why I've been, as I said, very                                              |\n|                                                       | 6<br>circumspect in my objections.                                                      |\n|                                                       | 7<br>MR. LUFT: Okay.                                                                    |\n|                                                       | 8<br>MR. MAJOR: Or I should say \"concise\" in                                            |\n|                                                       | 9<br>my objections.                                                                     |\n|                                                       | 10<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                      |\n|                                                       | 11<br>Q Ms. Ngok, what homes have you lived in                                          |\n|                                                       | 12<br>since you've come to the United States? Meaning the                               |\n|                                                       | 13<br>addresses.                                                                        |\n| 14<br>the witness answered the question that she did  | 14<br>A When I first came to the United States, I                                       |\n| 15<br>not know. We've given you interrogatory         | 15<br>live in town.                                                                     |\n| 16<br>responses explaining that Mrs. Guo is the only  | 16<br>Q \"In town\" meaning Manhattan?                                                    |\n| 17<br>person left at Greenwich Land, and then your    | 17<br>A Correct.                                                                        |\n| 18<br>next question was who at Greenwich Land would   | 18<br>Q At the Sherry Netherland hotel?                                                 |\n| 19<br>know what the law firm was?                     | 19<br>INTERPRETER: Sheraton?                                                            |\n| 20<br>And I objected to that question on a            | 20<br>MR. LUFT: Sherry Netherland.                                                      |\n| 21<br>number of grounds, including you're asking a    | 21<br>THE WITNESS: Correct.                                                             |\n| 22<br>witness who doesn't -- who just said she        | 22<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                      |\n| 23<br>doesn't know a fact if she knows who knows that |                                                                                         |\n| 24<br>fact that she doesn't know. So the question     |                                                                                         |\n| 25<br>doesn't make a lot of sense to me. That's one   |                                                                                         |\n|                                                       |                                                                                         |\n\n![](_page_19_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 20 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 21 of 52\n\n![](_page_20_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 21 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 22 of 52\n\n![](_page_21_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 22 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 23 of 52\n\n![](_page_22_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 23 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 24 of 52\n\n| Page 81                                        | Page 83                                                                              |\n|------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n|                                                | 1<br>Q                                                                               |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                | 4<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                   |\n|                                                | 5<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know why.                                                 |\n|                                                | 6<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                    |\n|                                                | 7<br>Q                                                                               |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                | 10<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                  |\n|                                                | 11<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                                    |\n|                                                | 12<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                   |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                | 21<br>MR. LUFT: And I will mark as Exhibit 14 a                                      |\n|                                                | 22<br>copy of a document Bates                                                       |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n| Page 82                                        | Page 84                                                                              |\n|                                                | 1                                                                                    |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                | 3<br>(Exhibit 14 was marked for I.D.)                                                |\n|                                                | 4<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                    |\n|                                                | 5<br>Q                                                                               |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                      |\n|                                                | 8<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                   |\n|                                                | 9<br>THE WITNESS:                                                                    |\n|                                                | 10<br>Okay.                                                                          |\n| 11<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             | 11<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                   |\n| 12<br>Q                                        | 12<br>Q And if I ask you to turn to page ending in                                   |\n|                                                | 13<br>Bates number 42 --                                                             |\n|                                                | 14<br>MR. MAJOR: I don't think she'll know what                                      |\n|                                                | 15<br>a Bates number is. I can flip it for her or --                                 |\n|                                                | 16<br>okay.                                                                          |\n| 17<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.            | 17<br>INTERPRETER: I can help her.                                                   |\n| 18<br>THE WITNESS: This one (indicating),      | 18<br>MR. MAJOR: Okay, please.                                                       |\n| 19<br>right?                                   | 19<br>THE WITNESS: I'm on it.                                                        |\n| 20<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             | 20<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                   |\n| 21<br>Q Yes, ma'am, the third one.             | 21<br>Q                                                                              |\n| 22<br>A No, it's this (indicating) --          |                                                                                      |\n| 23<br>Q Oh, sorry. Yes, correct, ma'am. You're | 23<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. The                                              |\n| 24<br>right.                                   |                                                                                      |\n| 25<br>A Okay. I see it.                        | 24<br>witness can't read the words.<br>25<br>THE WITNESS: I'm not -- I can't read. I |\n\n![](_page_23_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 24 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 25 of 52\n\n| 1  | Page 85<br>really can't read.                   | 1<br>if Greenwich Land holds any ownership interest in | Page 87 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------|---------|\n| 2  | MR. LUFT: I understand. Not a problem.          | 2<br>Saraca Media.                                     |         |\n| 3  | BY MR. LUFT:                                    | 3<br>A I do not know.                                  |         |\n|    |                                                 | 4<br>Q                                                 |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n|    |                                                 | 8<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                     |         |\n|    |                                                 | 9<br>THE WITNESS: I am not sure about that.            |         |\n|    |                                                 | 10<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                     |         |\n|    |                                                 | 11<br>Q                                                |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n|    |                                                 | 16<br>A I do not know.                                 |         |\n|    |                                                 | 17<br>Q                                                |         |\n|    |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n| 19 | BY MR. LUFT:                                    |                                                        |         |\n| 20 | Q Ms. Ngok, do you have any ownership           |                                                        |         |\n| 21 | interest in Saraca Media?                       |                                                        |         |\n| 22 | A No. I don't know.                             |                                                        |         |\n| 23 | Q Ms. Ngok, do you have any ownership           |                                                        |         |\n| 24 | interest in Hudson Diamond New York?            |                                                        |         |\n| 25 | A What do you mean by that?                     | 25<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                    |         |\n|    | Page 86                                         |                                                        | Page 88 |\n| 1  | Q My question, I'll ask it in two ways: Do      | 1<br>THE WITNESS: I don't know.                        |         |\n| 2  | you personally, Ms. Ngok, have any ownership    | 2<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                      |         |\n| 3  | interest in the entity named Hudson Diamond New |                                                        |         |\n| 4  | York?                                           |                                                        |         |\n| 5  | A I don't remember. I don't even understand     |                                                        |         |\n| 6  | what he means by that.                          |                                                        |         |\n| 7  | Q Ms. Ngok, does Greenwich Land have any        |                                                        |         |\n| 8  | ownership interest in Hudson Diamond New York?  |                                                        |         |\n| 9  | A I do not know.                                |                                                        |         |\n| 10 | Q Does Greenwich Land have any ownership        |                                                        |         |\n| 11 | interest in Saraca Media?                       |                                                        |         |\n| 12 | A I'm a little confused. I really don't         |                                                        |         |\n| 13 | know.                                           |                                                        |         |\n| 14 | Q That's okay. That's no worries.               |                                                        |         |\n| 15 | MR. MAJOR: If she's not well, she               |                                                        |         |\n| 16 | should -- you can take her out.                 |                                                        |         |\n| 17 | MR. LUFT: Okay. Let's take a break. Off         |                                                        |         |\n| 18 | the record. Let's go off the record before --   |                                                        |         |\n| 19 | VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 3:20. Off the         |                                                        |         |\n| 20 | record.                                         | 20<br>(Exhibit 15 was marked for I.D.)                 |         |\n| 21 | (A recess was taken.)                           | 21<br>MR. LUFT: And would it be okay for us to         |         |\n| 22 | VIDEOGRAPHER: We're back on the record.         | 22<br>just email a copy of it?                         |         |\n| 23 | The time is 3:50.                               | 23<br>COURT REPORTER: Sure.                            |         |\n| 24 | BY MR. LUFT:                                    | 24<br>MR. LUFT: All right. So that's what              |         |\n|    | Q Ms. Ngok, before we broke, I had asked you    | 25<br>we'll do.                                        |         |\n| 25 |                                                 |                                                        |         |\n\n![](_page_24_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 25 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 26 of 52\n\n|    | Page 89                                            |    |   |                                         | Page 91 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------|----|---|-----------------------------------------|---------|\n| 1  | MR. MAJOR: I could also print it for you           | 1  |   | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.           |         |\n| 2  | today.                                             | 2  |   | THE WITNESS: I don't remember.          |         |\n| 3  | MR. LUFT: That would be great too. I'm             | 3  |   | BY MR. LUFT:                            |         |\n| 4  | happy to do it either way.                         | 4  |   | Q Okay. No problem.                     |         |\n| 5  | MR. MAJOR: Email it to me and I'll print           | 5  |   |                                         |         |\n| 6  | it.                                                |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 7  | MR. LUFT: Perfect. Okay.                           |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 8  | BY MR. LUFT:                                       | 8  |   | A I don't remember.                     |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 9  | Q Ms. Ngok, earlier you told me that               | 9  | Q |                                         |         |\n| 10 | Greenwich Land sold the house at 33 Ferncliff Road |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 11 | in Greenwich, Connecticut. Do you recall that?     |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 12 | A Yes, I remember.                                 |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 13 | Q Okay. And do you -- and do you recall            | 13 |   | A I don't remember.                     |         |\n| 14 | that that                                          | 14 | Q |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 17 | A I don't remember clearly.                        | 17 |   |                                         |         |\n| 18 | Q                                                  |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    | off the record.)                                   |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 22 | THE WITNESS: I don't remember.                     | 22 |   | BY MR. LUFT:                            |         |\n| 23 | MR. LUFT: Okay. Let's mark as                      | 23 |   | Q That's okay.                          |         |\n| 24 | Exhibit 16,                                        | 24 |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    | Page 90                                            |    |   |                                         | Page 92 |\n| 1  |                                                    | 1  |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    | 2  |   | A I don't remember.                     |         |\n|    |                                                    | 3  | Q |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    | 6  |   | A I have gone to view the house before. |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    | were marked for I.D.)                              | 7  |   | Q I appreciate -- that's helpful.       |         |\n| 8  | BY MR. LUFT:                                       | 8  |   |                                         |         |\n| 9  | Q Ms. Ngok, my first question is simple:           |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 10 |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 13 | A Where is the dates?                              | 13 |   | A It was me.                            |         |\n| 14 | Q                                                  | 14 |   | Q Okay. And when did you make that      |         |\n|    |                                                    | 15 |   | decision?                               |         |\n|    |                                                    | 16 |   | A I don't remember very clearly.        |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 17 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                      | 17 |   | Q Okay.                                 |         |\n| 18 | BY MR. LUFT:                                       |    |   |                                         |         |\n| 19 | Q                                                  |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    |    |   |                                         |         |\n|    |                                                    | 25 |   | A I don't remember.                     |         |\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 26 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 27 of 52\n\n|           | Page 93                                              |    | Page 95                                   |  |\n|-----------|------------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------|--|\n| 1         | Q                                                    | 1  |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      | 2  | BY MR. LUFT:                              |  |\n|           |                                                      | 3  | Q Okay. And do you see --                 |  |\n| 4         | A I don't.                                           | 4  | A                                         |  |\n| 5         | Q                                                    | 5  | Q Understood.                             |  |\n|           |                                                      | 6  |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n| 9         | A I do not remember.                                 |    |                                           |  |\n| 10        | Q Okay. I'm going to show you a document             | 10 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.             |  |\n| 11        | that I'll ask the court reporter to mark as          | 11 | THE WITNESS: Okay.                        |  |\n|           |                                                      | 12 | BY MR. LUFT:                              |  |\n| 12        | Exhibit 18, which has a control number on it of      |    |                                           |  |\n| 13        | 00016119. That number is the number for the entire   | 13 | Q                                         |  |\n| 14        | document. It was produced to us without Bates        |    |                                           |  |\n| 15        | stamps, so just for clarity, we put a control number |    |                                           |  |\n| 16        | on it.                                               | 16 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.             |  |\n| 17        |                                                      | 17 | THE WITNESS: I really do not remember.    |  |\n|           |                                                      | 18 | BY MR. LUFT:                              |  |\n|           |                                                      | 19 | Q Okay. Let me show you another document. |  |\n|           |                                                      | 20 | MR. LUFT: Let's mark as Exhibit 19 --     |  |\n| 21        | (Exh bit 18 was marked for I.D.)                     | 21 | COURT REPORTER: Sorry.                    |  |\n| 22        | THE WITNESS: Okay.                                   | 22 | MR. LUFT: Sorry.                          |  |\n| 23        | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 23 | -- a document bearing the control stamp   |  |\n| 24        | Q Ms. Ngok, do you recognize this document?          | 24 | CTRL00016119, which purports to be        |  |\n| 25        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |    |                                           |  |\n|           | Page 94                                              |    | Page 96                                   |  |\n| 1         | THE WITNESS: I -- I'm sure I'm not able              | 1  |                                           |  |\n| 2         | to recognize it.                                     |    |                                           |  |\n| 3         | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 3  | (Exhibit 19 was marked for I.D.)          |  |\n| 4         | Q Okay. Well, let's see if we can find               | 4  | THE WITNESS: Okay.                        |  |\n| 5         | something you recognize.                             | 5  | MR. MAJOR: Object                         |  |\n| 6         |                                                      | 6  | BY MR. LUFT:                              |  |\n|           |                                                      | 7  | Q                                         |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n| 12        | A Can you point it out to me which page it           |    |                                           |  |\n| 13<br>is? |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n| 14        | Q Of course, ma'am. I can show you on mine.          |    |                                           |  |\n| 15        | I'm about eight pages in --                          |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n| 16        | MR. LUFT:                                            |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n| 18        | THE WITNESS: You mean this page                      |    |                                           |  |\n| 19        | (indicating)?                                        |    |                                           |  |\n| 20        | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |    |                                           |  |\n| 21        | Q                                                    |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      | 22 | INTERPRETER: Sorry.                       |  |\n|           |                                                      | 23 | BY MR. LUFT:                              |  |\n| 24        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        | 24 | Q                                         |  |\n| 25        | THE WITNESS:<br>,                                    |    |                                           |  |\n|           |                                                      |    |                                           |  |\n\n![](_page_26_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 27 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 28 of 52\n\n| Page 97<br>1<br>3<br>A I don't remember.<br>4<br>Q Okay. You can put that aside.<br>5<br>A Okay.<br>6<br>Q Let me show you, then --<br>7<br>MR. LUFT: Let's mark as Exhibit 20 --<br>8<br>(A discussion was held off the<br>9<br>stenographic record.)<br>10<br>MR. LUFT: We'll mark as Exhibit 20 a<br>11<br>document with the control number CTRL00016119.<br>12<br>Again, this is a multipage document that was<br>13<br>produced to us without Bates stamps, so we just<br>14<br>put it on there.<br>15 | Page 99<br>1<br>THE WITNESS: No, it's not.<br>2<br>MR. LUFT: It's -- I don't want to say it,<br>3<br>'cause I assume you don't want her social<br>4<br>security number in the record so<br>5<br>MR. MAJOR:<br>7<br>MR. LUFT: Well<br>8<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>9<br>Q<br>12<br>A You mean this one (indicating)?<br>13<br>Q Yes, ma'am.<br>14<br>A |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 19<br>(Exhibit 20 was marked for I.D.)<br>20<br>THE WITNESS: Okay.<br>21<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>22<br>Q<br>Page 98<br>1<br>of you.<br>2<br>A Where did you see page No. 7?<br>3<br>Q                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            | 23<br>MR. LUFT: Completely fair.<br>24<br>THE WITNESS: I do not -- I don't speak<br>25<br>English, I don't understand English, and I<br>Page 100<br>1<br>2<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>3<br>Q                                                                                                                                                          |\n| 7<br>MR. MAJOR: Can I just flip to it for her?<br>8<br>MR. LUFT: I -- I did. She has it.<br>9<br>THE WITNESS: I am on it, but I don't know<br>10<br>if that's the correct one.<br>11<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>12<br>Q That's the correct -- you're on the same<br>13<br>page as me.<br>14<br>19<br>A                                                                                                                                                                                                              | don't remember. I really don't<br>11<br>remember.<br>12<br>Q Okay.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |\n| 24<br>THE WITNESS: No, it is not either.<br>25<br>MR. LUFT: No, it's not -- it's                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            | 25<br>A It's an apartment? It's an apartment?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 28 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 29 of 52\n\n| Page 101<br>Page 103<br>1                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |\n|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 3<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.<br>4<br>THE WITNESS: Okay. I see it.<br>5<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>6<br>Q                                                                                                                                                                                                 |\n| 9<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.<br>10<br>THE WITNESS: Yes.<br>11<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>12<br>Q                                                                                                                                                                                                         |\n| 19<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.<br>20<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.<br>21<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>22<br>Q                                                                                                                                                                                              |\n| Page 102<br>Page 104<br>1<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection.<br>2<br>THE WITNESS: I don't know.<br>3<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>reporter to mark as Exhibit 21 another document                                                                                                                                          |\n| 12<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>13<br>Q Does anyone at Greenwich Land know the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |\n| 14<br>answer to that question?<br>15<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.<br>16<br>THE WITNESS: Can you repeat?<br>17<br>MR. LUFT: Sure.<br>18<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                                                                             |\n| 19<br>Q Does anyone at Greenwich Land know the<br>20<br>answer to that question?<br>21<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.<br>22<br>THE WITNESS: Me too don't know.<br>23<br>MR. LUFT: Okay. Ms. Ngok, I want to<br>24<br>be -- it's warm in here. How are you feeling?<br>25<br>And do you need a break? |\n|                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        |\n\n![](_page_28_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 29 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 30 of 52\n\n![](_page_29_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 30 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 31 of 52\n\n![](_page_30_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 31 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 32 of 52\n\n|    | Page 113                                           | Page 115                                                  |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | Ms. Ngok, do you know what Bento                   | 1<br>THE WITNESS: I don't remember.                       |\n| 2  | Technologies is?                                   | 2<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 3  | A I do not know.                                   | 3<br>Q                                                    |\n| 4  | Q Ms. Ngok, you previously told me you have        |                                                           |\n| 5  | a debit card for Greenwich Land -- for a Greenwich |                                                           |\n| 6  | Land account?                                      |                                                           |\n| 7  | A I don't know what it is. It's -- I call          |                                                           |\n| 8  | it the \"consumer\" card. I can use it to consume    |                                                           |\n| 9  | things, but I don't know what you call it.         |                                                           |\n| 10 | Q Ms. Ngok, that card is issued by Bento           | 10<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                       |\n| 11 | Technologies, correct?                             | 11<br>THE WITNESS: I don't remember clearly.              |\n| 12 | MR. MAJOR: I've just been advised that             | 12<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        |\n| 13 | there may have been a part missing from the        | 13<br>Q Okay.                                             |\n| 14 | translation. She said something about not          |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n| 15 | taking money out of the card.                      |                                                           |\n| 16 | (Ms. Song speaking Mandarin.)                      |                                                           |\n| 17 | (The reporter requested clarification.)            |                                                           |\n| 18 | MS. SONG: So she just mentioned that she           | 18<br>A I do not know.                                    |\n| 19 | never tried to take money out using that Bento     | 19<br>Q Okay. In the interest of trying to save           |\n| 20 | card and that she just used it to make some        | 20<br>some time, I'm going to ask you a question that     |\n| 21 | consumptions. So the part of --                    | 21<br>consolidates a number of these exhibits. But if you |\n| 22 | MR. LUFT: You can't take down her                  | 22<br>need me to break any of it up, please let me know.  |\n| 23 | testimony.                                         |                                                           |\n| 24 | INTERPRETER: Can the interpreter                   |                                                           |\n| 25 | reinterpret?                                       |                                                           |\n|    | Page 114                                           | Page 116                                                  |\n| 1  | MR. LUFT: That's perfectly fine.                   |                                                           |\n| 2  | INTERPRETER: Yeah, that's the proper way           |                                                           |\n| 3  | to do it.                                          |                                                           |\n| 4  | (Interpreter speaking Mandarin.)                   |                                                           |\n| 5  | THE WITNESS: Okay. I don't know what it            |                                                           |\n| 6  | is called. I call it the \"consumer\" card. I        |                                                           |\n| 7  | can use it to consume -- buy things, but I         |                                                           |\n| 8  | never withdrawal any cash out of it. But I         |                                                           |\n| 9  | don't know what you call it.                       |                                                           |\n| 10 | MR. LUFT: Okay. Everyone good with that?           |                                                           |\n| 11 | That's okay? Okay.                                 |                                                           |\n| 12 | BY MR. LUFT:                                       |                                                           |\n| 13 | Q Okay.                                            |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n| 24 | INTERPRETER: I'm sorry.                            |                                                           |\n| 25 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                      |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n|    |                                                    |                                                           |\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 32 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 33 of 52\n\n![](_page_32_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 33 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 34 of 52\n\n| Page 121                                                 | Page 123                                                 |\n|----------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1<br>the record; you don't have to do anything with them | 1                                                        |\n| 2<br>right now.                                          |                                                          |\n| 3<br>MR. LUFT: I marked a document bearing --            |                                                          |\n| 4<br>as Exhibit 34 bearing the Bates stamp               |                                                          |\n| 5                                                        | 5<br>Chris, do you want her to translate all             |\n|                                                          | 6<br>that or?                                            |\n|                                                          | 7<br>MR. MAJOR: I'm okay not translating all             |\n|                                                          | 8<br>that.                                               |\n| 9<br>As Exhibit 35, the next in that series,             | 9<br>MR. LUFT: Okay.                                     |\n| 10                                                       | 10<br>THE WITNESS: Okay. I'll just give a gist           |\n|                                                          | 11<br>of it.                                             |\n|                                                          | 12<br>MR. LUFT: You can just tell her that I --          |\n|                                                          | 13<br>INTERPRETER: Oh, sorry. Just give me one           |\n| 14<br>(A discussion was held off the                     | 14<br>second.                                            |\n| 15<br>stenographic record.)                              | 15<br>(Interpreter speaking Mandarin.)                   |\n| 16<br>MR. LUFT: Exh bit -- we've marked as               | 16<br>THE WITNESS: Okay.                                 |\n| 17<br>Exhibit 36 another                                 | 17<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                       |\n|                                                          | 18<br>Q Ms. Ngok, I'll ask you to turn to -- if          |\n|                                                          | 19<br>you could just pull out Exhibit 22 and Exhibit 33. |\n|                                                          | 20                                                       |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n| 22<br>We marked as Exhibit 37 a                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          | 23<br>INTERPRETER: Sorry.                                |\n|                                                          | 24<br>MR. LUFT: Go ahead.                                |\n|                                                          | 25<br>THE WITNESS: Yes.                                  |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n| Page 122                                                 | Page 124                                                 |\n| 1<br>Exhibit -- we marked as Exhibit 38                  | 1<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        |\n|                                                          | 2<br>Q                                                   |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n| 6<br>We marked as Exhibit 39                             |                                                          |\n|                                                          | 7<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                       |\n|                                                          | 8<br>THE WITNESS: I see it.                              |\n|                                                          | 9<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        |\n|                                                          | 10<br>Q                                                  |\n| 11<br>We marked as Exhibit 40                            |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n| 16<br>And we marked as Exhibit 41                        | 16<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                      |\n|                                                          | 17<br>THE WITNESS: Which date?                           |\n|                                                          | 18<br>MR. LUFT:                                          |\n|                                                          | 19<br>THE WITNESS: Yes, I see it.                        |\n| 20<br>We marked as Exhibit 42                            | 20<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                       |\n|                                                          | 21<br>Q Okay. In the interest of trying to save          |\n|                                                          | 22<br>time                                               |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n| 25<br>And as Exhibit 43,                                 |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n|                                                          |                                                          |\n\nCase 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 34 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 35 of 52\n\n| Page 125                                                 | Page 127                                                  |\n|----------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1                                                        | 1<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n|                                                          | 2<br>Q Ms. Ngok, who had the authority to write           |\n|                                                          | 3<br>checks on behalf of Greenwich Land's bank account at |\n|                                                          | 4<br>The First Bank of Greenwich?                         |\n|                                                          | 5<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n| 6<br>INTERPRETER: Thank you.                             | 6<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.                          |\n| 7<br>MR. LUFT: Thank you.                                | 7<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 8<br>THE WITNESS: I understand.                          | 8<br>Q Who at -- who at Greenwich Land had to             |\n| 9<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        | 9<br>authorize the writing of checks from Greenwich       |\n| 10<br>Q                                                  | 10<br>Land's bank account at The First Bank of Greenwich? |\n|                                                          | 11<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                       |\n|                                                          | 12<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.                         |\n|                                                          | 13<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        |\n|                                                          | 14<br>Q Ms. Ngok, are you familiar with a company         |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          | 15<br>called Gypsy Mei -- M-E -- \"Mei\" is spelled M-E-I,  |\n| 16<br>A Yes.                                             | 16<br>same as your daughter's -- Food Service, LLC?       |\n| 17<br>Q                                                  | 17<br>A I am not familiar with this.                      |\n|                                                          | 18<br>MR. LUFT: Okay. So let's mark as                    |\n|                                                          | 19<br>Exhibit 45 a document bearing the Bates stamp       |\n|                                                          | 20<br>HR0003000 through 32, titled \"Minute Book of        |\n|                                                          | 21<br>Gypsy Mei Food Services, Hodgson Russ,              |\n|                                                          | 22<br>Attorneys.\"                                         |\n|                                                          | 23<br>(Exhibit 45 was marked for I.D.)                    |\n|                                                          | 24<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        |\n| 25<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                      |                                                           |\n| Page 126                                                 | Page 128                                                  |\n| 1<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.                         |                                                           |\n| 2<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n| 13<br>Q Okay. We're going to come back to these,         |                                                           |\n| 14<br>but for now you can put them to the side for a     |                                                           |\n| 15<br>second.                                            |                                                           |\n| 16<br>(A discussion was held off the                     |                                                           |\n| 17<br>stenographic record.)                              |                                                           |\n| 18<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                       |                                                           |\n| 19<br>Q Ms. Ngok, I'm going to ask the court             |                                                           |\n| 20<br>reporter to mark as Exhibit 44 a document produced |                                                           |\n| 21<br>to us by                                           |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n| The document bears the Bates stamp -- or                 |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n| 24<br>control number CTRL00016116.                       | 24<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                        |\n| 25<br>(Exhibit 44 was marked for I.D.)                   |                                                           |\n|                                                          |                                                           |\n\n![](_page_34_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 35 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 36 of 52\n\n![](_page_35_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 36 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 37 of 52\n\n![](_page_36_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 37 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 38 of 52\n\n![](_page_37_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 38 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 39 of 52\n\n![](_page_38_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 39 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 40 of 52\n\n|    | Page 145                                             |    | Page 147                                             |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | MR. MAJOR: That's fine.                              | 1  | Max Krasner resigned from his position at Greenwich  |\n| 2  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 2  | Land. Are you aware of those statements to the       |\n| 3  | Q Okay. And specifically, Interrogatory              | 3  | court?                                               |\n| 4  | No. 6 asks Greenwich Land to \"Identify all employees | 4  | A I do not know.                                     |\n| 5  | of Greenwich Land, including directors and officers, | 5  | MR. MAJOR: Just objection. I just want               |\n| 6  | and the role of each identified individual.\"         | 6  | to -- it's fine, the answer is out. But just         |\n| 7  | And in response Greenwich Land stated that           | 7  | because it dealt with the court, I was going to      |\n| 8  | you are presently the sole member of Greenwich Land  | 8  | put in an objection regarding privilege. But         |\n| 9  | and Greenwich Land presently has no separate         | 9  | she's already answered it and it didn't reveal       |\n| 10 | manager, officers, or employees. And then it says    | 10 | any privileged communication. So I pardon the        |\n| 11 | Greenwich Land previously had officers. Yvette       | 11 | interruption, but I just wanted to note that         |\n| 12 | Wang, Daniel Podhaskie, and Max Krasner previously   | 12 | since I had already interrupted, just telling        |\n| 13 | served in the roles of vice president of Greenwich   | 13 | you why.                                             |\n| 14 | Land. All of them resigned before the end of 2022?   | 14 | (A discussion was held off the                       |\n| 15 | INTERPRETER: End of 2022?                            | 15 | stenographic record.)                                |\n| 16 | MR. LUFT: Yes, that's what it says.                  | 16 | THE WITNESS: Okay.                                   |\n| 17 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 17 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 18 | Q Ms. Ngok, was that information correct             | 18 | Q Ms. Ngok, if it helps refresh your                 |\n| 19 | when you signed and verified these interrogatories?  | 19 | recollection, if you look at page 6 of your          |\n| 20 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        | 20 | interrogatories, under \"Right to Supplement,\" it     |\n| 21 | THE WITNESS: Yes.                                    | 21 | references language related to Max Krasner resigning |\n| 22 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 22 | on November 5, 2022. Does that refresh your          |\n| 23 | Q Okay. So is it fair to say that, to                | 23 | recollection that someone by the name of Max Krasner |\n| 24 | Greenwich Land's knowledge, Chunguang Han was never  | 24 | resigned from Greenwich Land on November 5, 2022?    |\n| 25 | a manager, officer, or employee of Greenwich Land?   | 25 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n| 1  | Page 146<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.            | 1  | Page 148<br>(A discussion was held off the           |\n| 2  | THE WITNESS: I've never heard about it.              | 2  | stenographic record.)                                |\n| 3  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 3  | THE WITNESS: Which page?                             |\n| 4  | Q Okay. Is it also fair to say that your             | 4  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 5  | daughter, Mei Guo, has also never been a manager,    | 5  | Q Page 6.                                            |\n| 6  | director, or officer of Greenwich Land -- or         | 6  | A I can't read it.                                   |\n| 7  | employee.                                            | 7  | Q That's okay.                                       |\n| 8  | MR. LUFT: Sorry.                                     |    |                                                      |\n| 9  | INTERPRETER: Sorry.                                  |    |                                                      |\n| 10 | THE WITNESS: How do I put it? Well, I                |    |                                                      |\n| 11 | don't know.                                          |    |                                                      |\n| 12 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |    |                                                      |\n| 13 | Q Okay. Well, when you signed the                    |    |                                                      |\n| 14 | interrogatory -- certified -- signed the             |    |                                                      |\n| 15 | interrogatories to certify the answer, did Greenwich |    |                                                      |\n| 16 | Land have any reason to believe that Mei Guo has     |    |                                                      |\n| 17 | been an employee, director, or officer of Greenwich  |    |                                                      |\n| 18 | Land, such that she should be included in the        |    |                                                      |\n| 19 | answer?                                              |    |                                                      |\n| 20 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |    |                                                      |\n| 21 | THE WITNESS: I'm not sure about that.                | 21 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |\n| 22 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 22 | Q Okay. Do you see if, when we look at the           |\n| 23 | Q Okay. And, Ms. Ngok, Greenwich Land has            | 23 | exhibits --                                          |\n| 24 | filed documents with the court in this case stating  | 24 | INTERPRETER: Okay. The interpreter would             |\n| 25 | that on November 5, 2022, a person by the name of    | 25 | like to rectify the answer. The answer is \"I'm       |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                      |\n\n![](_page_39_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\nCase 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 40 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 41 of 52\n\n![](_page_40_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 41 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 42 of 52\n\n| Page 153                                        | Page 155                                                    |\n|-------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1                                               |                                                             |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n| 4<br>(Exhibit 47 was marked for I.D.)           |                                                             |\n| 5<br>MR. LUFT: I'm going to ask the court       |                                                             |\n| 6<br>reporter to mark as Exhibit 48             | 6<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                          |\n|                                                 | 7<br>THE WITNESS:                                           |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n| 10<br>(Exhibit 48 was marked for I.D.)          |                                                             |\n| 11<br>MR. LUFT: I'm going to ask the court      |                                                             |\n| 12<br>reporter to mark as Exhibit 49            | 12<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n|                                                 | 13                                                          |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n| 16<br>(Exhibit 49 was marked for I.D.)          | 16<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                         |\n| 17<br>MR. LUFT: And I'll ask the court reporter | 17<br>THE WITNESS:                                          |\n| 18<br>to mark Exhibit 50                        |                                                             |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n|                                                 | 21<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n| 22<br>(Exhibit 50 was marked for I.D.)          | 22<br>Q Okay. Well, Ms. Ngok, let's just go to              |\n| 23<br>MR. LUFT:                                 | 23<br>our most recent one, which is from -- well, let me    |\n|                                                 | 24<br>strike that. Let me find one that may stick out a     |\n|                                                 | 25<br>bit more.                                             |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n| Page 154<br>1                                   | Page 156<br>1<br>And -- well, let me first -- let me strike |\n|                                                 | 2<br>that.                                                  |\n|                                                 | 3<br>(The following testimony was deemed highly             |\n|                                                 | 4<br>confidential.)                                         |\n|                                                 | 5<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                           |\n| 6<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.              | 6<br>Q                                                      |\n| 7<br>THE WITNESS: I'm not able to read this     |                                                             |\n| 8<br>document.                                  |                                                             |\n| 9<br>BY MR. LUFT:                               |                                                             |\n| 10<br>Q                                         | 10<br>(The reporter requested clarification.)               |\n|                                                 | 11<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n| 14<br>INTERPRETER: Can I have the question      |                                                             |\n| 15<br>again, sir?                               |                                                             |\n| 16<br>MR. LUFT: You could just strike it.       |                                                             |\n| 17<br>BY MR. LUFT:                              |                                                             |\n| 18<br>Q                                         |                                                             |\n|                                                 | 19<br>MR. MAJOR: Hold on. Hold on. I don't                  |\n|                                                 | 20<br>want to have any attorney-client privileged           |\n| 21<br>A Yes.                                    | 21<br>communications put on the record. So I just           |\n| 22<br>Q                                         | 22<br>want to -- I don't know what the best thing to        |\n|                                                 | 23<br>do is, but I'd like to maybe -- and I have no         |\n|                                                 | 24<br>idea what the rest of the answer was, so I            |\n|                                                 | 25<br>don't know if it just a passing reference or          |\n|                                                 |                                                             |\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 42 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 43 of 52\n\n![](_page_42_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n![](_page_42_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 43 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 44 of 52\n\n|                                 | Page 161 | Page 163                                          |\n|---------------------------------|----------|---------------------------------------------------|\n| BY MR. LUFT:                    |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 | 24       | BY MR. LUFT:                                      |\n|                                 | 25       | Q Ms. Ngok, are you familiar with the             |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 | Page 162 | Page 164                                          |\n| 1<br>THE WITNESS: I don't know. | 1        | restaurant Henry Cipriani, which is in the same   |\n| BY MR. LUFT:                    | 2        | building as the Sherry Netherland apartment?      |\n|                                 | 3        | A I am not familiar.                              |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 | 13       | BY MR. LUFT:                                      |\n|                                 | 14       | Q Ms. Ngok, have you personally ever eaten        |\n|                                 | 15       | at Henry Cipriani [sic], which is located in the  |\n|                                 | 16       | same building as the Sherry Netherland hotel?     |\n|                                 | 17       | A Yes, I have dined in the same -- in that        |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 | 18       | restaurant before, but that was years back when I |\n|                                 | 19       | first came to the United States, probably in the  |\n|                                 | 20       | year of 2017.                                     |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n|                                 |          |                                                   |\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 44 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 45 of 52\n\n| Page 165                                                                                          | Page 167                                                                    |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1<br>THE WITNESS: I only have breakfast in the<br>2<br>restaurant when I first came to the United |                                                                             |\n| 3<br>States back in 2017.                                                                         |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n| 6<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>7<br>Q But he is a person who has signed --                                  |                                                                             |\n| 8<br>opened bank accounts and signed documents on behalf                                          |                                                                             |\n| 9<br>of Greenwich Land, correct?                                                                  |                                                                             |\n| 10<br>MR. MAJOR: Just objection to form.                                                          |                                                                             |\n| 11<br>I'm sorry.<br>12<br>THE WITNESS: I don't know about that.                                   |                                                                             |\n| 13<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   | 21<br>(Exhibit 51 was marked for I.D.)<br>22<br>BY MR. LUFT:                |\n|                                                                                                   | 23<br>Q                                                                     |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n| Page 166                                                                                          | Page 168                                                                    |\n|                                                                                                   | 1<br>A I don't remember.<br>2<br>Q Okay. Let me show you -- let's mark as   |\n|                                                                                                   | 3<br>Exhibit 52 a                                                           |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   | 7<br>(Exhibit 52 was marked for I.D.)                                       |\n|                                                                                                   | 8<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                           |\n|                                                                                                   | 9<br>Q                                                                      |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   | form.<br>12<br>THE WITNESS:                                                 |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   | 14<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                          |\n|                                                                                                   | 15<br>Q                                                                     |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n|                                                                                                   | 21<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.<br>22<br>THE WITNESS: I don't remember. |\n|                                                                                                   | 23<br>MR. LUFT: Okay. Let's mark as --                                      |\n|                                                                                                   | 24<br>MR. MAJOR: Can I just ask a question on                               |\n|                                                                                                   | 25<br>Exhibit 52?                                                           |\n|                                                                                                   |                                                                             |\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 45 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 46 of 52\n\n![](_page_45_Picture_1.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 46 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 47 of 52\n\n| Page 173                                       | Page 175                                                                                                             |\n|------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1<br>BY MR. LUFT:                              | 1<br>later?                                                                                                          |\n| 2<br>Q What if -- please tell me --            | 2<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                                                   |\n| 3<br>A I do not know who.                      | 3<br>THE WITNESS: I do not know.                                                                                     |\n| 4<br>INTERPRETER: Sorry.                       | 4<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                                    |\n| 5<br>MR. LUFT: Okay.                           | 5<br>Q                                                                                                               |\n| 6<br>BY MR. LUFT:                              |                                                                                                                      |\n|                                                |                                                                                                                      |\n|                                                | 8<br>A I do not know.                                                                                                |\n|                                                | 9<br>Q Ms. Ngok, are you familiar with someone by                                                                    |\n| 10<br>MR. LUFT: Okay. Let's mark as Exhibit 55 | 10<br>the name of Dinggang Wang?                                                                                     |\n| 11<br>a                                        | 11<br>INTERPRETER: Can I have the spelling of<br>12<br>the name, sir?                                                |\n|                                                | 13<br>MR. LUFT: D-I-N-G-G-A-N-G, space, Wang,                                                                        |\n| 14<br>(Exhibit 55 was marked for I.D.)         | 14<br>W-A-N-G.                                                                                                       |\n| 15<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             | 15<br>THE WITNESS: I am not familiar.                                                                                |\n|                                                | 16<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                                   |\n|                                                | 17<br>Q                                                                                                              |\n|                                                |                                                                                                                      |\n|                                                | 19<br>A I do not know.                                                                                               |\n|                                                | 20<br>Q Okay. Ms. Ngok, I'm going to have marked                                                                     |\n|                                                | 21<br>as Exhibit -- what are we up to, 56? -- 56 documents                                                           |\n|                                                | 22<br>entitled \"Residential Lease Renewal Agreement,\"                                                                |\n|                                                | 23<br>between Greenwich Land, LLC, and Wang Dinggang.                                                                |\n|                                                | 24<br>(Exhibit 56 was marked for I.D.)                                                                               |\n| 25<br>A I don't know. I don't know why.        | 25                                                                                                                   |\n| Page 174                                       | Page 176                                                                                                             |\n| 1<br>(A discussion was held off the record.)   | 1<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                                    |\n| 2<br>BY MR. LUFT:<br>3<br>Q                    | 2<br>Q Ms. Ngok, do you recognize this document?<br>3<br>A I don't remember.                                         |\n|                                                | 4<br>Q Did you ever authorize Greenwich Land to                                                                      |\n|                                                | 5<br>lease 33 Ferncliff to a man named Dinggang Wang?                                                                |\n|                                                | 6<br>A I don't remember.                                                                                             |\n|                                                | 7<br>Q Ms. Ngok, I'm going have the court                                                                            |\n|                                                | 8<br>reporter mark as Exhibit 57 a copy of a document                                                                |\n|                                                | 9<br>entitled \"Residential Lease Renewal Waiver                                                                      |\n| 10<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.            | 10<br>Agreement,\" which is an agreement between, again,                                                              |\n| 11<br>THE WITNESS: I really do not know why.   | 11<br>Greenwich Land, LLC, and Mr. Wang Dinggang dated                                                               |\n| 12<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             | 12<br>October 9, 2020.                                                                                               |\n| 13<br>Q                                        | 13<br>(Exhibit 57 was marked for I.D.)                                                                               |\n|                                                | 14<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                                   |\n|                                                | 15<br>Q Ms. Ngok, who authorized Greenwich Land to                                                                   |\n|                                                | 16<br>enter into this agreement with Mr. Dinggang Wang<br>17<br>related to he and his family living at 33 Ferncliff? |\n| 18<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection.                    | 18<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                                                  |\n| 19<br>THE WITNESS: I do not understand your    | 19<br>THE WITNESS: I'm not sure.                                                                                     |\n| 20<br>question.                                | 20<br>BY MR. LUFT:                                                                                                   |\n| 21<br>BY MR. LUFT:                             | 21<br>Q Okay. Ms. Ngok, is part of Greenwich                                                                         |\n| 22<br>Q                                        | 22<br>Land's business to do media consulting?                                                                        |\n|                                                | 23<br>A I'm not sure.                                                                                                |\n|                                                | 24<br>Q You're the sole member of Greenwich Land.                                                                    |\n|                                                | 25<br>Are you aware of any media business that Greenwich                                                             |\n|                                                |                                                                                                                      |\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 47 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 48 of 52\n\n![](_page_47_Figure_1.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 48 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 49 of 52\n\n|    | Page 181                                             | 1  | Page 183<br>INTERPRETER: Can the interpreter clarify? |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------------------|\n|    |                                                      | 2  | I was still interpreting the first question;          |\n| 3  | MR. LUFT: Let's mark as Exhibit 59 a                 | 3  | you asked a second question. Can the                  |\n| 4  | document titled \"Retail Fuel Delivery and            |    |                                                       |\n|    |                                                      | 4  | interpreter reinterpret?                              |\n| 5  | Service Agreement,\" dated February 6, 2020,          | 5  | MR. LUFT: And then she answered the                   |\n| 6  | under the name of Ho Wan Kwok for the address        | 6  | question, correct?                                    |\n| 7  | of 30 Ferncliff Road [sic].                          | 7  | INTERPRETER: Yes, she answered the                    |\n| 8  | (Exhibit 59 was marked for I.D.)                     | 8  | question. She said yes.                               |\n| 9  | (A discussion was held off the                       | 9  | MR. LUFT: To my first question, and                   |\n| 10 | stenographic record.)                                | 10 | then --                                               |\n| 11 | MR. LUFT: Guys, I have to ask for a copy             | 11 | MR. MAJOR: I don't know -- I disagree                 |\n| 12 | back. Sorry. Thank you.                              | 12 | with that.                                            |\n| 13 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 13 | MR. LUFT: You can't disagree. She's the               |\n| 14 | Q Ms. Ngok, this is a fuel delivery                  | 14 | interpreter, Chris. She's telling you that's          |\n| 15 | agreement --                                         | 15 | what happened.                                        |\n| 16 | MR. MAJOR: Wait. Hold on. The -- you                 | 16 | MR. MAJOR: I'm talking about the order of             |\n| 17 | just took our copies back and --                     | 17 | the questions.                                        |\n| 18 | MR. LUFT: I didn't take your copies. You             | 18 | MR. LUFT: Do you speak Chinese?                       |\n| 19 | have two lawyers; I gave you one. You guys           | 19 | MR. MAJOR: First of all, that's not a                 |\n| 20 | still have one, right?                               | 20 | language but -- and you've been saying that all       |\n| 21 | MR. MAJOR: No, we gave them both back.               | 21 | day but                                               |\n| 22 | You said it was the wrong document.                  | 22 | MR. LUFT: It's not? No, there are two                 |\n| 23 | MR. LUFT: No, I just needed a copy.                  | 23 | dialects I think you're referring to, but             |\n| 24 | MR. MAJOR: Ah, okay.                                 | 24 | there's obviously a language of Chinese, and          |\n| 25 |                                                      | 25 | Mandarin is commonly referred to as \"Chinese.\"        |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                       |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                       |\n|    | Page 182                                             |    | Page 184                                              |\n| 1  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 1  | Let's not waste time.                                 |\n| 2  | Q Ms. Ngok, this is a retail fuel delivery           | 2  | MR. MAJOR: Hold on.                                   |\n| 3  | and service agreement dated February 6, 2020, for    | 3  | MR. LUFT: Chris, I understand there's ten             |\n| 4  | the address 33 Ferncliff Road, Cos Cob, Connecticut, | 4  | minutes; I understand you're trying to run it         |\n| 5  | under the name of Ho Wan Kwok.                       | 5  | out all of a sudden with all these --                 |\n| 6  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        | 6  | MR. MAJOR: I'm not trying to run it out.              |\n| 7  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 7  | You asked a compound question; I'm objecting to       |\n| 8  | Q 33 Ferncliff Road is the house Greenwich           | 8  | the compound question.                                |\n| 9  | Land owned, correct? And Ho Wan Kwok is the name of  | 9  | MR. LUFT: Okay.                                       |\n| 10 | your husband, correct?                               | 10 | Ms. Interpreter, can you please explain               |\n| 11 | MR. LUFT: She just answered something,               | 11 | what happened?                                        |\n| 12 | echo. You got to translate it.                       | 12 | (The reporter requested clarification.)               |\n| 13 | MR. MAJOR: Hold on. I have -- it's a                 | 13 | INTERPRETER: Can -- the interpreter was               |\n| 14 | compound question. You asked her what the            | 14 | still interpreting the first question and             |\n| 15 | document was --                                      | 15 | Ms. -- Ms. Guo actually answered the second           |\n| 16 | MR. LUFT: She answered and it wasn't                 | 16 | question while I was interpreting them.               |\n| 17 | translated, Chris.                                   | 17 | Can the interpreter reinterpret both the              |\n| 18 | MR. MAJOR: No, but you asked two                     | 18 | questions?                                            |\n| 19 | questions at once.                                   | 19 | MR. LUFT: Why don't I just withdraw it                |\n| 20 | MR. LUFT: No, Chris, it just wasn't                  | 20 | and we'll just do it very quick?                      |\n| 21 | translated. She answered.                            | 21 | INTERPRETER: Okay, then.                              |\n| 22 | MR. MAJOR: I'm looking at the realtime,              | 22 | BY MR. LUFT:                                          |\n| 23 | and I heard you --                                   | 23 | Q Exhibit 59 says 33 Ferncliff Road, which            |\n| 24 | MR. LUFT: Whatever the -- 'cause Echo                | 24 | is a house you had previously told me was owned by    |\n| 25 | didn't translate it, Chris.                          | 25 | Greenwich Land, the name on the account of -- is Ho   |\n\n![](_page_48_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n# Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 49 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 50 of 52\n\n|    | Page 185                                             |    | Page 187                                       |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | Wan Kwok. That is your husband, correct?             | 1  | BY MR. LUFT:                                   |\n| 2  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form, including              |    |                                                |\n| 3  | compound.                                            |    |                                                |\n| 4  | THE WITNESS: I never said that the                   |    |                                                |\n| 5  | 33 Ferncliff Road house is under my husband's        |    |                                                |\n| 6  | name.                                                |    |                                                |\n| 7  | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 7  | BY MR. LUFT:                                   |\n| 8  | Q No, I understand that. The document --             |    |                                                |\n| 9  | but Exhibit 59, which is the fuel agreement, states  |    |                                                |\n| 10 | that 33 Ferncliff Road is under your husband's name, |    |                                                |\n| 11 | correct?                                             |    |                                                |\n| 12 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        |    |                                                |\n| 13 | THE WITNESS: I still do not know what                |    |                                                |\n| 14 | this document means, even right now.                 |    |                                                |\n| 15 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         |    |                                                |\n| 16 | Q Ms. Ngok, do you have any involvement with         |    |                                                |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                |\n| 17 | paying the fuel bill for -- did you have any         | 17 | MR. LUFT: Ms. Ngok, I have no further          |\n| 18 | involvement with paying the fuel bill for            | 18 | questions at this time. Thank you very much    |\n| 19 | 33 Ferncliff Road?                                   | 19 | for what has been long and a very hot day in   |\n| 20 | A You mean fuel? What is it?                         | 20 | this room.                                     |\n| 21 | Q Yes.                                               | 21 | THE WITNESS: Thank you, everybody. It          |\n| 22 | A It's like gasoline?                                | 22 | has been a hard day for everyone. Thank you so |\n| 23 | Q The fuel that heats the home.                      | 23 | much.                                          |\n| 24 | A And then? Then what?                               | 24 | MR. MAJOR: Actually, I just want to put        |\n| 25 | Q My question is did you have any                    | 25 | two -- I'll be very, very quick. I'd like to   |\n|    | Page 186                                             |    | Page 188                                       |\n| 1  | involvement in paying for the fuel bill for          | 1  | mark the video and then the still images       |\n| 2  | 33 Ferncliff Road?                                   | 2  | thereof highly confidential for security       |\n| 3  | A I don't remember.                                  | 3  | reasons.                                       |\n| 4  | Q Let me show you another document.                  | 4  | I'd like to reserve the right, as              |\n| 5  | MR. LUFT: We're going to mark as                     | 5  | ridiculous as it may sound, to read and sign.  |\n| 6  | Exhibit 60 a copy of a Petro Home Services bill      | 6  | I just don't want to let that go. I know it's  |\n| 7  | to Ho Wan Kwok at 33 Ferncliff Road, Cos Cob,        | 7  | a logistical situation and we may well not do  |\n| 8  | Connecticut.                                         | 8  | that, but I just want to reserve that right.   |\n| 9  | (Exhibit 60 was marked for I.D.)                     | 9  | MR. LUFT: Okay.                                |\n| 10 | BY MR. LUFT:                                         | 10 | COURT REPORTER: And can I just get the         |\n| 11 | Q Ms. Ngok, do you see that this a copy of a         | 11 | orders on the record?                          |\n| 12 | fuel bill for 33 Ferncliff Road in the name of your  | 12 | MR. LUFT: Sure. We'd like the rough and        |\n| 13 | husband, Ho Wan Kwok?                                | 13 | expedited.                                     |\n| 14 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                        | 14 | MR. MAJOR: And I just ask that the             |\n| 15 | THE WITNESS: I see his name, yes, but I              | 15 | transcript be marked \"Confidential\" except     |\n| 16 | don't recognize any other information on this        | 16 | where we marked it \"Highly confidential,\" and  |\n| 17 | page.                                                | 17 | then we'll give it a review. And if there are  |\n| 18 | MR. LUFT: Let's go off the record for a              | 18 | spots that don't need to be marked, we'll deal |\n| 19 | minute.                                              | 19 | with that then.                                |\n| 20 | VIDEOGRAPHER: We're off the record. The              | 20 | MR. LUFT: I will -- I don't agree that         |\n| 21 | time is 8:53.                                        | 21 | everything on the record should be             |\n| 22 | (A recess was taken.)                                | 22 | confidential. And that's going to create a     |\n| 23 | VIDEOGRAPHER: We're back on the record.              | 23 | major headache for the court when they have to |\n| 24 | The time is 9:01.                                    | 24 | use this, including the fact that we all have  |\n| 25 |                                                      | 25 | to make any use of it and any filings, both in |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                |\n|    |                                                      |    |                                                |\n\n![](_page_49_Picture_2.jpeg)\n\n## Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 50 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 51 of 52\n\n|    | Page 189                                      |        | Page 191                                                      |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------|--------|---------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1  | court and in briefs, confidential. I don't    | 1      | C E R T I F I C A T E                                         |\n| 2  | think there's any basis, other than where we  | 2      | I hereby certify that I am a Notary Public,                   |\n| 3  | have specified that things should be marked   | 3      | in and for the State of Connecticut, duly                     |\n| 4  | \"Confidential\" or \"Highly confidentially,\" to | 4      | commissioned and qualified to administer oaths.               |\n| 5  | say that the rest of the record needs to be   | 5      | I further certify that the deponent named in                  |\n| 6  | marked \"Confidential\" for the entire          | 6      | the foregoing deposition was by me duly sworn, and            |\n| 7  | deposition.                                   | 7      | thereupon testified as appears in the foregoing               |\n| 8  | MR. MAJOR: I was just saying it for a         | 8      | deposition; that said deposition was taken by me              |\n| 9  | period of time, to allow us to review the     | 9      | stenographically in the presence of counsel and               |\n|    |                                               | 10     | reduced to typewriting under my direction, and the            |\n| 10 | transcript to see if there's anything we want | 11     | foregoing is a true and accurate transcript of the            |\n| 11 | to mark \"Confidential.\" We can deal with that | 12     | testimony.                                                    |\n| 12 | off the record.                               | 13     | I further certify that I am neither of                        |\n| 13 | And then, in terms of the order, I'll take    | 14     | counsel nor attorney to either of the parties to              |\n| 14 | a -- I think regular delivery will be fine.   | 15     | said suit, nor am I an employee of either party to            |\n| 15 | And I'm sure it includes it, but a mini as    | 16     | said suit, nor of either counsel in said suit, nor            |\n| 16 | well.                                         | 17     | am I interested in the outcome of said cause.                 |\n| 17 | COURT REPORTER: And did you want a rough?     | 18     | Witness my hand and seal as Notary Public                     |\n| 18 | Sorry.                                        | 19     | this 13th day of September, 2023.                             |\n| 19 | MR. MAJOR: I don't think we need a rough,     | 20     |                                                               |\n| 20 | but if we do, we'll reach out to you. Is that | 21     | _______________________________                               |\n| 21 | okay?                                         |        | Deborah Gentile                                               |\n| 22 | COURT REPORTER: Sure.                         | 22     | Notary Public                                                 |\n| 23 | THE WITNESS: Thank you.                       | 23     |                                                               |\n| 24 | MR. LUFT: Thank you, everyone.                | 24     | My commission expires:<br>October 31, 2026                    |\n| 25 | MS. SONG: Thank you.                          | 25     |                                                               |\n|    | Page 190                                      |        | Page 192                                                      |\n| 1  | VIDEOGRAPHER: This is concludes today's       | 1      |                                                               |\n| 2  | deposition. We're off the record at 9:05 p.m. | 2      | INDEX OF EXAMINATIONS                                         |\n| 3  | (The deposition concluded at 9:05 p.m.)       | 3<br>4 | PAGE<br>DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. LUFT<br>7                   |\n| 4  |                                               | 5      |                                                               |\n| 5  |                                               | 6<br>7 | INDEX OF EXHIBITS<br>TRUSTEE'S EXHIBITS MARKED FOR I.D.       |\n| 6  |                                               | 8      | Exhibit 1<br>- Notice of Deposition, Ms. Ngok<br>7            |\n| 7  |                                               | 9      | Exhibit 2 - Notice of Deposition, Greenwich<br>8<br>Land, LLC |\n| 8  |                                               | 10     |                                                               |\n| 9  |                                               |        | Exhibit 3 - Greenwich Land's Supplemental<br>21               |\n| 10 |                                               | 11     | Responses to Interrogatories,<br>9/9/23                       |\n| 11 |                                               | 12     |                                                               |\n| 12 |                                               |        | Exhibit 4 -                                                   |\n| 13 |                                               | 14     | Exhibit 5 -                                                   |\n| 14 |                                               |        |                                                               |\n| 15 |                                               | 15     | Exhibit 6 -                                                   |\n| 16 |                                               |        |                                                               |\n| 17 |                                               | 17     | Exhibit 7 -                                                   |\n| 18 |                                               | 18     |                                                               |\n| 19 |                                               |        | Exhibit 8 -                                                   |\n| 20 |                                               | 20     | Exhibit 9 -                                                   |\n|    |                                               |        |                                                               |\n| 21 |                                               | 21     | Exhibit 10 -                                                  |\n| 22 |                                               |        |                                                               |\n| 23 |                                               | 23     | Exhibit 11 -                                                  |\n| 24 |                                               | 24     |                                                               |\n| 25 |                                               | 25     |                                                               |\n|    |                                               |        |                                                               |\n\n#### Case 23-05005 Doc 85-1 Filed 10/16/23 Entered 10/16/23 19:44:19 Page 51 of 51 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-53 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 52 of 52\n\n| Page 193                                     | Page 195                                                                        |\n|----------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1<br>2<br>INDEX OF EXHIBITS (CONT'D)         | 1<br>2<br>INDEX OF EXHIBITS (CONT'D)                                            |\n| 3<br>TRUSTEE'S EXHIBITS MARKED FOR I.D.<br>4 | 3<br>TRUSTEE'S EXHIBITS MARKED FOR I.D.<br>4                                    |\n| Exhibit 12 -                                 | Exhibit 35 -                                                                    |\n| 6<br>Exhibit 13 -                            | Exhibit 36 -<br>6                                                               |\n| 7<br>Exhibit 14 -                            | 1<br>Exhibit 37                                                                 |\n| Exhibit 15<br>ਰੇ                             | Exhibit 38<br>ਰੇ                                                                |\n| 10                                           | 10                                                                              |\n| Exhibit 16                                   | Exhibit 39                                                                      |\n| Exhibit 17 -<br>12                           | Exhibit 40<br>12                                                                |\n| 13                                           | 13<br>Exhibit 41 -                                                              |\n| Exhibit 18 -                                 | 15<br>Exhibit 42                                                                |\n| 15<br>Exhibit 19                             | 16                                                                              |\n| 16<br>Exhibit 20                             | Exhibit 43 -                                                                    |\n| Exhibit 21 -<br>18                           | Exhibit 44 -<br>18<br>19                                                        |\n| 19                                           | Exhibit 45 - \"Minute Book of Gypsy Mei Food<br>127<br>20<br>Services \"          |\n| Exhibit 22 -                                 | 21<br>Exhibit 46 - TRO and Preliminary Injunction,<br>152<br>3/28/23            |\n| 21<br>Exhibit 23 -                           | 22<br>Exhibit 47 -                                                              |\n| 22<br>23                                     | Exhibit 48 -<br>24                                                              |\n| 24<br>25                                     | 25                                                                              |\n| Page 194                                     | Page 196                                                                        |\n| 1<br>2<br>INDEX OF EXHIBITS (CONT'D)         | 1<br>2<br>INDEX OF EXHIBITS (CONT'D)                                            |\n| 3<br>TRUSTEE'S EXHIBITS MARKED FOR I.D.<br>4 | 3<br>TRUSTEE'S EXHIBITS MARKED FOR I.D.<br>4                                    |\n| Exhibit 24 -                                 | Exhibit 49                                                                      |\n| Exhibit 25 -<br>6                            | Exhibit 50<br>6                                                                 |\n| 7<br>Exhibit 26 -<br>8                       | 7<br>Exhibit 51 -                                                               |\n|                                              | Exhibit 52<br>ರಿ                                                                |\n| 2<br>Exhibit 27 -<br>10                      | 10                                                                              |\n|                                              | Exhibit 53 -                                                                    |\n| Exhibit 28<br>12                             | 12<br>Exhibit 54                                                                |\n| Exhibit 29 -<br>। ব                          | 13                                                                              |\n|                                              | Exhibit 55 -                                                                    |\n|                                              | 175<br>15<br>Exhibit 56 - Residential Lease Renewal<br>Agreement, Mr. Wang      |\n| Exhibit 31<br>18                             | 16<br>Exhibit 57 - Residential Lease Renewal Waiver<br>176                      |\n|                                              | Agreement, Mr. Wang, 10/9/20<br>17<br>18<br>Exhibit 58                          |\n| 20<br>Exhibit 32 -                           | 19                                                                              |\n| 21                                           | Exhibit 59 - Retail Fuel Delivery and Service<br>181<br>20<br>Agreement, 2/6/20 |\n| Exhibit 33 -                                 | Exhibit 60 - Petro Home Services Bill, 33<br>21<br>186<br>Ferncliff Road        |\n| 23<br>Exhibit 34                             | 22<br>(Reporter's note:  Exhibits attached to original.)<br>23                  |\n| 24<br>25                                     | 24<br>25                                                                        |\n| A FOOTTIDE                                   |                                                                                 |","body_zh":null,"key_entities":["Je","Guo","Kwok","Ho Wan Kwok","Despins","Saraca","Luc Despins","Paul Hastings"],"ecf_references":[{"doc_number":85,"court":"CTB"}],"word_count":18310,"status":"published","published_at":"2023-10-26 00:00:00","created_at":"2023-10-26","updated_at":"2026-07-07 08:02:11"}