{"id":"court_ctb_250_15","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":250,"sub_number":15,"doc_type":"EXHIBIT","filed_date":"2013-11-14","title":"EXHIBIT PAX 15 Transcript of the April 12, 2022 Deposition of Yvette Wang","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"# **EXHIBIT PAX 15**\n\nTranscript of the April 12, 2022 Deposition of Yvette Wang\n\n1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 In re: UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION )Case No. ) 22-50073- (JAM) Ho Wan Kwok, Debtor. REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF (30(b) (6) CORPORATE REPRESENTATIVE YAN PING WANG Tuesday, April 12, 2022 New York, New York Reported by: B. Suzanne Hull, CSR No. 13495 Page 1\n\n5 HoWanKwok: By MR. BENNETT S. SILVERBERG\n\nAlliance Asia By MR. DAVID V. HARBACH II\n\nNew York, New York 10036\n\n15 By MR. STUART M. SARNOFF\n\n95\n\n1 APPEARANCES **1 INDEX** 2\n\nGolden Spring By MR. SCOTT D. ROSEN 22 **three pages** 22 (New York) Limited: Attorney at Law\n\n3 2 4 For the Debtor Brown Rudnick 3 **EXAMINATION BY PAGE** MR. KENNETH AULET **4** 6Attorneys at Law 5 **MR.HARBACH** 10 Times Sqill!Ie Tower 7 7 Times Square 6 New York, New York 10036 8 (212) 209-4924 7 (212) 209-4950 **8** 9 bsilverberg@brownrudnick.com kaulet@brownrudnick.com 9 **EXHIBITS** 10 **11** For Creditor Pacific O'Melveny & Myers 10 **11 EXHIBIT DESCRIPTION PAGE** 12 Opporhmity Fund, Attorney at Law L.P.. 1625 Eye Street NW **12 Exhibit** 1 - **Transcript of testimony of 19** 13 Washington, DC 20006 (202) 383-5127 **13 Yan Ping Wang, taken** 14 dharbach@omrn.com - and- **14 October 11, 2018, forty-two** MS. **15** AISLING MURRAY **pages** 16 Attorneys at Law **16** Times Square Tower **Exhibit 2** - **Trial transcript, dated 28** 17 7 Times Square **17 April 26, 2019, one hundred** 18 (212) 326-2293 **18 twenty-five pages** (212) 728-5831 **19 Exhibit 3** - **Director and officer register, 43** 19 ssamoff@omm.com amurray@ornrn.com **20 Golden Spring (New York)** 20 21 For Creditor Cohn Birnbaum Shea **21 Limited, Delaware Coiporation,**\n\n| | (860) 493-2220 | 24 | dated November 14, 2013, three | |\n|----------|----------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------|--------|\n| 24
25 | srosen@cbshealaw.com | 25 | pages | |\n| | Page 2 | | | Page 4 |\n| 1 | APPEARANCES (Continued) | 1 | EXHIBITS (Continued) | |\n| 2 | | | 2 EXHIBIT
DESCRIPTION | PAGE |\n| 3 | | | | |\n| | United States Department of
4 For United States | | 3 Exhibit 5 -
Exhibit B, Golden Spring | 166 |\n| 5 | Justice
Trustee:
By MS. HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN | 4 | (New York)'s Delaware | |\n| | Attorney at Law | 5 | certificate of incoiporation | |\n| 6 | 1100 L Street NW | 6 | and certificate of revival, | |\n| | Room 12210 | 7 | dated March 10, 2015, five | |\n| 7 | Washington, DC 20005 | | | |\n| | (202) 514-2000 | 8 | pages | |\n| 8 | holley.l.claiborn@usdoj.gov | | 9 Exhibit 6 -
Pacific Alliance Asia | 209 |\n| 9 | 10 For the Committee on Pullman & Comley | 10 | Opportunity Fund L.P. 's notice | |\n| | Secured Creditors: By MR. JONATHAN KAPLAN | 11 | of deposition of Golden Spring | |\n| 11 | Attorney at Law | 12 | (New York) Limited pursuant to | |\n| | 90 State House Square | | | |\n| 12 | Hartford, Connecticut 06103 | 13 | Rule 30(b )(6) of the Federal | |\n| | (860) 424-4379 | 14 | Rules of Civil Procedure, | |\n| 13 | jkaplan@pullcom.com | 15 | dated March 29, 2022, seven | |\n| 14 | | 16 | pages | |\n| 15 | 16 The Videographer:
Jeffrey Nichols | 17 | | |\n| | 17 The Interpreter:
Sunny Johnston (Mandarin) | | | |\n| | Una Wilkinson (Mandarin)
18 The Check | 18 | | |\n| | Interpreter: | 19 | | |\n| 19 | | 20 | | |\n| | Also Present:
Makenzie Russo | 21 | | |\n| 20 | | 22 | | |\n| 21
22 | | | | |\n| 23 | | 23 | | |\n| 24 | | 24 | | |\n| 25 | | 25 | | |\n| | Page 3 | | | Page 5 |\n| | | | | |\n\n100 Pearl Street **23 Exhibit 4** - **Affidavit of Yan Ping Wang, 55** 23 Hartford, Connecticut 06103\n\n2 (Pages 2 - 5)\n\n| | 1 QUESTIONS INSTRUCTED NOT TO | 1 | MR. ROSEN: Good morning.
09:16:24 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 ANSWER: | 2 | Scott Rosen, Cohn Birnbaum & Shea,
09:16:24 |\n| 3 | Page 36
Line 18 | | 3 representing Golden Spring (New York).
09: 16:28 |\n| 4 | Page 3 7
Line 25 | 4 | MR. KAPLAN: Jonathan Kaplan,
09: 16:36 |\n| 5 | Page 41
Line 16 | | 5 Pullman & Comley, representing the Committee of
09:16:36 |\n| 6 | Page 65
Line 9 | | 6 Unsecured Creditors.
09:16:40 |\n| 7 | Page 126 Line 20 | 7 | MR. AULET: Kenneth Aulet, of Brown Rudnick, 09:16:40 |\n| 8 | Page 128 Line 18 | | 8 representing the debtor, Ho Wan Kwok.
09: 16:43 |\n| 9 | Page 13 0 Line 2 | 9 | MR. SIL VER.BERG: Bennett Silverberg,
09:16:46 |\n| 10 | Page 150 Line 5 | | 10 Brown Rudnick, representing the debtor.
09: 16:49 |\n| 11 | Page 157 Line 17 | 11 | MS. RUSSO: Makenzie Russo, with
09:16:52 |\n| 12 | | | 12 O'Melveny & Myers, representing Pacific Alliance.
09: 16:56 |\n| 13 | | 13 | MR. SARNOFF: Stuart Sarnoff,
09:16:57 |\n| 14 | | | 14 Pacific Alliance.
09:17:02 |\n| 15 | | 15 | MS. CLAIBORN: And I am Holley Claiborn, for 09:17:02 |\n| 16 | | | 16 the U.S. Trustee.
09:17:04 |\n| 17 | | 17 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Thank you.
09: 17:05 |\n| 18 | | 18 | Will the court reporter please swear in both 09: 17:06 |\n| 19 | | | 19 interpreters and then the witness.
09:17:09 |\n| 20 | | 20 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand,
09: 17:14 |\n| 21 | | | 21 please.
09:17:15 |\n| 22 | | 22 | |\n| 23 | | 23 | SUNNY JOHNSTON, |\n| 24 | | | 24 having been called as an interpreter to interpret |\n| 25 | | | 25 English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was |\n| | Page 6 | | Page 8 |\n| I | New York, New York | | I duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best |\n| 2 | Tuesday, April 12, 2022; 9:15 a.m. | | 2 of her abilities and interpreted as follows: |\n| 3 | 162 East 64th Street | 3 | 09:17:20 |\n| 4 | | 4 | THE INTERPRETER: Yes, I do.
09:17:20 |\n| 5 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Good morning. | 5 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand,
09: 17:25 |\n| 6 | We are going on the record at 9: 15 a.m. on
09:15:21 | | 6 please, Check Interpreter.
09:17:27 |\n| | 7 April 12th, 2022.
09:15:25 | 7 | |\n| 8 | This is media unit one of the video-recorded 09: 15:27 | 8 | UNA WILKINSON, |\n| | 9 deposition of Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for
09: 15:31 | | 9 having been called as an interpreter to interpret |\n| | 10 Golden Spring (New York), taken by
09:15:37 | | 10 English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was |\n| | II Creditor Pacific Alliance In Re: Ho Wan Kwok, filed
09:15:39 | | 11 duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best |\n| | 12 in the United States Bankruptcy Court, District of
09: 15:42 | | 12 of her abilities and interpreted as follows: |\n| | 13 Connecticut, Bridgeport Division. The case number is 09:15:47 | 13 | 09:17:42 |\n| | 14 22-50073 (JAM).
09:15:49 | 14 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes, I do.
09:17:42 |\n| 15 | This deposition is being held virtually via 09: 15 :50 | 15 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand please, |\n| | 16 Zoom.
09: 15:57 | | 16 Witness. |\n| 17 | My name is Jeff Nichols, from the firm
09: 15:57 | 17 | |\n| | 18 Veritext Legal Solutions, and I am the videographer.
09:15:59 | 18 | YAN PING WANG, |\n| | 19 The court reporter is Suzanne Hull, from the firm
09: 16:02 | | 19 called as a 30(b)(6) Corporate Representative by |\n| | 20 Veritext Legal Solutions.
09:16:06 | | 20 counsel for Creditor Pacific Alliance Asia |\n| 21 | Counsel will now please state their
09:16:07 | | 21 Opportunity Fund, L.P., being first duly sworn, |\n| | 22 appearances and affiliations for the record.
09:16:10 | | 22 testified as follows: |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH: Good morning.
09:16:14 | 23 | 09: 17:59 |\n| 24 | I'm David Harbach, with O'Melveny & Myers,
09:16:15 | 24 | THE WITNESS: Yes.
09:17:59 |\n| | 25 and I represent Pacific Alliance.
09:16:19 | 25 | THE REPORTER: Okay. State credentials,
09:18:02 |\n| | Page 7 | | Page 9 |\n\n3 (Pages 6 - 9)\n\n| | 1 please.
09: 18:06 | | Q. Okay. Super.
09:21: 13 |\n|----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | THE INTERPRETER: Yes.
09:18:08 | 2 | So if you would, please wait for me to
09:21: 18 |\n| 3 | Good morning, everyone.
09: 18:09 | | 3 fmish my question before you start answering, and
09:21:21 |\n| 4 | Court certified Mandarin interpreter,
09: 18: 10 | | 4 I'll do my best to wait for you to stop speaking
09:21:24 |\n| | 5 California State Certified Interpreter
09: 18: 13 | | 5 before I ask my next question.
09:21:28 |\n| | 6 Sunny Johnston. Certification number is 301314.
09:18:14 | 6 | Okay?
09:21:30 |\n| 7 | THE REPORTER: Check Interpreter,
09:18:18 | 7 | A. Yes, sir.
09:21:31 |\n| | 8 credentials, please.
09:18:22 | 8 | Thank you.
09:21:33 |\n| 9 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: I am the check
09:18:25 | 9 | Q. Okay. Super.
09:21:33 |\n| | 10 interpreter for Mandarin and English, and
09: 18:26 | 10 | And as I said a moment ago, if there is
09:21:35 |\n| | 11 a court-certified interpreter for the Unified Court
09: 18:29 | | 11 a question that you do not understand, please just
09:21:40 |\n| | 12 System in New York state.
09: 18:33 | | 12 let me know, and I'm happy to try and rephrase it.
09:21:43 |\n| 13 | THE REPORTER: Thank you.
09:18:36 | | 13 And if there is a question that you would prefer be
09:21:48 |\n| 14 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Thank you.
09:18:37 | | 14 translated in order to answer it, that is no problem. 09:21:52 |\n| 15 | You may proceed, Counsel.
09:18:37 | | 15 That is what Ms. Johnston is here for.
09:21:56 |\n| 16 | 09:18:37 | 16 | Okay?
09:21:59 |\n| 17 | EXAMINATION
09: 18:40 | 17 | A. Yes, sir.
09:22:00 |\n| | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:
09: 18:40 | 18 | Thank you.
09:22:02 |\n| 19 | Q. Good morning, Ms. Wang.
09:18:41 | 19 | Q. Okay. Are you on any medication or --
09:22:02 |\n| 20 | My name is David Harbach, as you just heard. 09:18:44 | 20 | MR. ROSEN: Counsel, before we start,
09:22: 11 |\n| 21 | And a couple housekeeping matters before we
09: 18:50 | | 21 stipulations as to objections and signing.
09:22: 13 |\n| | 22 get started.
09: 18:53 | 22 | What is your preference?
09:22: 18 |\n| 23 | Are you able to hear -- are you able to hear 09: 18:54 | 23 | MR. HARBACH: I'm not sure I understand,
09:22:20 |\n| | 24 me okay?
09:18:55 | | 24 Scott.
09:22:22 |\n| 25 | A. Yes.
09: 19:09
Page 10 | 25 | MR. ROSEN: The usual stipulations? All
09:22:24
Page 12 |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| I | I can hear you clearly.
09: 19: 10 | | I objections reserved to trial except for form?
09:22:27 |\n| 2 | Q. I'm aware that you had given depositions in 09: 19: 12 | 2 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. That's okay with me.
09:22:32 |\n| | 3 the past in English.
09:19: 15 | 3 | MR. ROSEN: Okay. The witness is not going 09:22:36 |\n| 4 | Would you be comfortable proceeding in
09:19:18 | | 4 to waive tbe signing and reading of the transcript.
09:22:38 |\n| | 5 English today?
09: 19:21 | 5 | MR. HARBACH: I didn't hear you, Scott.
09:22:42 |\n| 6 | A. Okay. My mother tongue is not English, but 09: 19:37 | 6 | Could you please speak up?
09:22:44 |\n| | 7 I can try to go through the deposition in English;
09: 19:54 | 7 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.
09:22:46 |\n| | 8 however, I do need the interpreter stand by in case
09: 19:57 | 8 | The witness will not waive the signing and
09:22:46 |\n| | 9 I don't understand anything.
09:20:00 | | 9 reading of the transcript.
09:22:49 |\n| 10 | Q. That -- that sounds perfect, and that is
09:20:02 | 10 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Understood.
09:22:50 |\n| | 11 just fine with us; so we can proceed in English. And 09:20:05
12 if you have a question or you would like a question
09:20: 10 | 12 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:22:58
Q. Ms. Wang,Iwasjustabouttoaskyouifyou 09:22:58 |\n| | 13 translated into Mandarin or if you would like an
09:20: 13 | | 13 are on any medication or under the influence of
09:23:01 |\n| | 14 answer translated into Mandarin, please just say so,
09:20:20 | | 09:23:05 |\n| | 15 and Ms. Johnston can help.
09:20:24 | | 14 any- -- an1thing that might impair your memory or
15 interfere with your ability to answer questions
09:23:09 |\n| 16 | Is that acceptable to you?
09:20:27 | | 16 truthfully.
09:23:12 |\n| 17 | A. Okay. Yes.
09:20:30 | 17 | A. No.
09:23: 15 |\n| 18 | Thank you.
09:20:52 | 18 | Q. Is there any reason you can think of why you 09:23: 17 |\n| 19 | Q. Okay. Very good.
09:20:52 | | 19 cannot provide truthful testimony today?
09:23 :20 |\n| 20 | And just a few more things. Because we are
09:20:56 | 20 | A. I don't think there is any reason, sir.
09:23 :24 |\n| | 21 doing this deposition remotely, it is very important 09:20:59 | 21 | Q. Okay. Super.
09:23:29 |\n| | 22 for the court reporter that only one person be
09:21:03 | 22 | I believe you have been deposed at least
09:23:30 |\n| | 23 speaking at a time.
09:21:08 | | 23 once before in October of2018 in litigation
09:23:37 |\n| 24
25 | Do you understand?
09:21 :09
A. (In English) Yes, Ido. Yeah.
09:21:12 | 25 | 24 involvingPAX.
09:23:44
Do you recall that deposition?
09:23:46 |\n\n4 (Pages 10 - 13)\n\n| A. I remember I was deposed before, but I don't 09:23 :48 | A. Correct.
09:26:51
I |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 recollect the -- the dates -- the precise dates.
09:23:56 | Q. Did you meet with them in person to do that 09:26:52
2 |\n| Q. Understand.
09:23:59
3 | 3 preparation?
09:26:56 |\n| Other than that deposition where PAX
09:24:00
4 | A. No.
09:26:57
4 |\n| 5 examined you, have you been deposed in any other
09:24:09 | Due to COVID, I meet our counsels via -- via 09:26:59
5 |\n| 6 litigation since then?
09:24: 13 | 6 video call.
09:27:07 |\n| A. Sir, since -- since then? You mean since
09:24: 15
7 | Q. Thank you.
09:27:08
7 |\n| 8 when?
09:24:19 | 8
Did you have communications with anyone else 09:27:08 |\n| Q. Well, I'll represent to you that the
09:24:20
9 | 9 at Golden Spring -- via telephone, videoconference,
09:27: 11 |\n| 10 deposition that PAX conducted of you was in October
09:24:23 | 10 or otherwise -- to prepare for today's deposition?
09:27: 17 |\n| 11 of2018.
09:24:26 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
09:27:24
11 |\n| 12
And my question is have you been deposed
09:24:30 | 12
The witness can answer without disclosing
09:27:25 |\n| 13 since then?
09:24:33 | 13 any conversations with either inhouse counsel or
09:27:28 |\n| 14
A. I believe so.
09:24:34 | 14 outside counsel.
09:27:32 |\n| Q. And do you recall when?
09:24:37
15 | THE WITNESS: Sir, sorry.
09:27:36
15 |\n| A. I don't recall.
09:24:44
16 | 16
Can you repeat your question?
09:27:37 |\n| 17
Q. In what proceeding?
09:24:45 | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:27:40 |\n| A. It was in a case called Strategic Vision,
09:24:49
18 | Q. Yes.
09:27:41
18 |\n| 19 Eastern Profits -- or Eastern Profits, Strategic
09:24:57 | It was a yes-or-no question that did not
19
09:27:41 |\n| 20 Vision. It should be the same case.
09:25 :02 | 20 call for any -- any privileged information.
09:27:43 |\n| Q. Okay. And in -- in what course is that
09:25:04
21 | The question is did you meet with any
09:27:46
21 |\n| 22 case, if you know?
09:25:07 | 22 personnel at Golden Spring -- via telephone, Zoom,
09:27:50 |\n| 23
A. In a court in New York.
09:25:08 | 23 videoconference or otherwise -- to prepare for your
09:27:57 |\n| 24
Q. Okay. Any other depositions, besides that
09:25:11 | 24 deposition today?
09:28:01 |\n| 25 one, since October of2018?
09:25:20 | 25
A. Yes, I did.
09:28:01 |\n| Page 14 | Page 16 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| A. Hmmm. No.
09:25:25
1 | Q. With whom did you communicate at
09:28:05 |\n| Q. Do you understand that you are here today as 09:25:27
2 | 2 Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today?
09:28:08 |\n| 3 a corporate representative of Golden Spring
09:25:35 | A. I communicated with the owner of
3
09:28: 11 |\n| 4 (New York)?
09:25:40 | 4 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, Mr. Qiang Guo. Let 09:28:U |\n| 5
A. Yes, I do.
09:25:40 | 5 me spell, Q-i-a-n-g, last name G-u-o.
09:28:25 |\n| 6
Q. Did you review the topics that we intend to
09:25:42 | 6
Q. How much time did you spend communicating
09:28:32 |\n| 7 cover with you today that were contained in the
09:25:48 | 7 with him?
09:28:37 |\n| 8 deposition notice before your testimony today?
09:25:51 | 8
A. How much time? Like, ten fifteen -- about,
09:28:38 |\n| 9
A. Yes.
09:25:55 | 9 like, fifteen minutes -- ten, fifteen minutes.
09:28:49 |\n| I did review the topics.
09:25:59
10 | 10
Q. Is there anyone else at Golden Spring with
09:28:52 |\n| Q. Okay. What did you do to prepare -- excuse
09:26:01
11 | 11 whom you communicated to prepare for today's
09:28:55 |\n| 12 me -- prepare for your deposition today, generally
09:26:05 | 12 deposition?
09:28:57 |\n| 13 speaking?
09:26:08 | A. No.
09:28:57
13 |\n| 14
A. I prepared with our law firm -- with our
09:26:09 | 14
Q. Is there anyone else in the world, other
09:28:58 |\n| 15 attorneys.
09:26:15 | 15 than attorneys, with whom you communicated to prepare 09:29:01 |\n| 16
Q. Okay. Did you review documents?
09:26:16 | 16 for today's deposition?
09:29:05 |\n| 17
A. Yes.
09:26:21 | 17
A. No.
09:29:07 |\n| I did review documents.
09:26:22
18 | Q. What is the name of -- withdrawn.
18
09:29:09 |\n| 19
Q. Did you meet with any other personnel at
09:26:24 | 19
A moment ago, when you said you met with
09:29:26 |\n| 20 Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today?
09:26:29 | 20 lawyers to prepare for today's deposition, lawyers
09:29:29 |\n| A. Meet -- I'm sorry.
09:26:32
21 | 21 from which firm or firms?
09:29:35 |\n| 22
What do you mean? You mean meet in person? 09:26:38 | 22
A. Attorneys from Mr. Scott Rosen's firm.
09:29:37 |\n| 23 What do you mean, meet?
09:26:41 | 23 I couldn't pronounce his law firm's name. It should 09:29:45 |\n| 24
Q. Well, a moment ago you said that the law
09:26:43
25 firm assisted you in preparing for today.
09:26:49 | 24 be -- I mean, it is complicated for me to pronounce
09:29:49
25 his law firm's name; so Mr. Scott Rosen and his
09:29:55 |\n\n5 (Pages **14** - 17)\n\n| I colleague, Mr. Timothy -- Tim.
09:29:59 | 1 the -- the second one that says deposition of
09:35:07 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
Q. Tim Miltenberger?
09:30:01 | 2 Yvette Wang.
09:35:11 |\n| 3
A I believe so. I don't remember his last
09:30:05 | MR. ROSEN: Counsel, before you proceed with 09:35: 11
3 |\n| 4 name It sounds like it correct.
09:30:07 | 4 the question, could you please explain to me which of 09:35: 13 |\n| 5
Q. Okay. Did you meet or consult with any
09:30:09 | 5 the 30(b )(6) topics this document pertains to.
09:35:17 |\n| 6 lawyers from the Brown Rudnick firm to prepare for
09:30: 13 | MR. HARBACH: Well, it could be -- it could 09:35:23
6 |\n| 7 today's deposition?
09:30:23 | 7 be any number of them because the document is the
09:35:25 |\n| 8
A No, I didn't
09:30:24 | 8 transcript of her prior deposition; so it will be
09:35:29 |\n| 9
Q. When was Golden Spring (New York)Limited
09:30:27 | 9 multiple such topics.
09:35:33 |\n| 10 formed?
09:30:40 | 10
MR. ROSEN: I'll reserve the right to object 09:35:36 |\n| II
A Golden Spring (New York) Limited was formed 09:30:40 | 11 and instruct the witness not to answer if it exceeds
09:35:38 |\n| 12 in the year of 2015.
09:30:45 | 12 the scope of the 30(b )(6).
09:35:42 |\n| 13
Q. Does March 2015 sound about right to you?
09:30:47 | But go ahead and proceed.
13
09:35:43 |\n| 14
A In March, yes.
09:30:54 | 14
MR. HARBACH: Understood.
09:35:46 |\n| Q. What is Golden Spring (New York)'s
09 30.59
15 | 15
Is there anyone who can't see the exhibit in 09:35:49 |\n| 09:31 :03
16 relationship to Golden Spring (Hong Kong)? | 16 their marked exhibits folder before I go on?
09:35:51 |\n| | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:35:59 |\n| 17
A Golden Spring (New York) Limited is
09.3109 | |\n| 18 100 percent owned by China Golden Spring (Hong Kong). 09 :31 : 15 | 18
Q. Okay. Ms. Wang, can you see it?
09:36:00
19
A. Sir, I can see a .pd- -- it says .pdffile
09:36:03 |\n| Q. And for purposes of today's deposition, I'm 09:31 :21
19 | |\n| 20 going to refer to China Golden Spring (Hong Kong) as 09:31 :27 | 20 with forty-two pages.
09:36:07 |\n| 21 just Golden Spring (Hong Kong).
09:31 :33 | 21
Q. You got it?
09:36:09 |\n| 22
Is that okay with you?
09:31 :36 | 22
A. This is the one?
09:36: 11 |\n| A Yes.
09:31 :37
23 | 23
Gotit. Okay.
09:36: 12 |\n| Q. Okay. Did you ever work at Golden Spring
24
09:31 :39 | 24
Q. Yes, ma'am.
09:36: 13 |\n| 25 (Hong Kong)?
09:31 :45
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Please open that one up.
09:36:15
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A Yes.
09:31 :49 | 1
A. (Witness complies.)
09:36:18 |\n| Q. Do you recall when you worked there?
2
09:31 :50 | 2
Yes.
09:36: 18 |\n| A That was back to 2016 for, like, a couple of 09:31:53
3 | Q. So just to refresh your recollection before
09:36: 19
3 |\n| 4 months.
09:32:05 | 4 I proceed, the question I put to you concerned the
09:36:22 |\n| Q. Okay. I would like to show you what I'm
5
09:32:07 | 5 dates that you worked at Golden Spring (Hong Kong).
09:36:25 |\n| 6 going to mark as Exhibit 1.
09:32:22 | 6 And I believe you said that it was approximately
09:36:31 |\n| 7
(Deposition Exhibit Number 1
09:32:29 | 7 2016. And I just want to show you in the deposition 09:36:36 |\n| 8
was marked for identification.)
09:32:29 | 8 in 2018 where you were asked about this. Let me read 09:36:42 |\n| MR. HARBACH: And we'll just wait a moment
09:32:32
9 | 9 what you said, and then ask the question again.
09:36:49 |\n| 10 for my colleague to drop it in there. Just sit
09:32:34 | 10
So I -- can I direct your attention to page
09:36:52 |\n| 11 tight, everybody. It will be there in a second.
09:32:56 | 11 thirty of the transcript.
09:36:55 |\n| 12 Sorry for the delay. We are working on it. It seems 09:33: 17 | 12
A. (Witness complies.)
09:37:00 |\n| 13 to be a little slow. It is uploading now.
09:33:30 | Q. Let me know when you are there.
13
09:37:02 |\n| 14
Ms. Russo is telling me it should be in
09:34:30 | 14
A. Page thirty, three, zero, sir; right?
09:37:09 |\n| 15 there, but I don't see it in my marked exhibits
09:34:33 | Q. Yes,ma'am. That is right.
15
09:37:15 |\n| 16 folder.
09:34:37 | And it is the -- you know, page thirty of
16
09:37: 18 |\n| 17
Does anyone else?
09:34:38 | 17 the miniature pages.
09:37:21 |\n| MR. KAPLAN: There -- there are two folders. 09:34:42
18 | Do you see how each of the miniature pages
18
09:37:23 |\n| 19 It looks like it is in the second one.
09:34:45 | 19 is numbered?
09:37:26 |\n| | |\n| 20
MR. HARBACH: Okay. Got it.
09:34:57 | 20
A. I am on page thirty.
09:37:30 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Counsel--
09:34:59
21 | What do you mean, miniature pages? I don't 09:37:33
21 |\n| 22
MR. HARBACH: That seems --
09:35:00 | 22 understand that.
09:37:38 |\n| 23
MR. ROSEN: -- before we --
09:35:00 | Q. Well, each-- sure.
23
09:37:39 |\n| 24
MR. HARBACH: That seems to be the way it is 09:35:02
25 on -- on my computer. It is in the second one in
09:35:05 | Each page of the document that I just sent
24
09:37:41
25 you has four pages of the transcript on it.
09:37:44 |\n\n6 (Pages 18 - 21)\n\n| 1
Do you see that?
09:37:47 | |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 1 from 2018, I believe; so before that I don't believe
09:40:44 |\n| A. Yes.
09:37:48
2 | 2 I work for Golden Spring (New York). Technically,
09:40:52 |\n| Q. Okay. So those are the page numbers that
09:37:48
3 | 3 I work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and -- which
09:40:56 |\n| 4 I am referring to. And on page thirty, at line ten,
09:37:52 | 4 include the time of the 2016, when I revert because
09:41:01 |\n| 5 you were asked a question that reads:
09:38:03 | 5 2015 -- 2016 I revert. 2016, that is a more
09:41:06 |\n| 6
\"QUESTION: Then you moved to Hong Kong 09:38:05 | 6 consecutive period of time for me to base in
09:41 :12 |\n| 7
in 2015 to work in September of2015 to work 09:38:07 | 7 Hong Kong; so besides that, I traveled between
09:41:16 |\n| 8
for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?\"
09:38: 13 | 8 Hong Kong/U.S.
09:41:20 |\n| And your answer was:
9
09:38:18 | Q. Okay. Solthinkiunderstandyou,but
9
09:41:22 |\n| \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
09:38:19
10 | 10 I want to make sure.
09:41:25 |\n| Do you see that there?
09:38:21
11 | In approximately 2015 you started working
09:41 :28
11 |\n| A. Sir, which page? It is page thirty, but
09:38:23
12 | 12 for Golden Spring (Hong Kong), and you worked for
09:41:33 |\n| 13 there are four -- four little page number.
09:38:26 | 13 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) until sometime in 2018, at 09:41:40 |\n| Q. For--
14
09:38:31 | 14 which point you began working for Golden Spring
09:41:46 |\n| A. I'm not sure which one.
09:38:32
15 | 15 (New York).
09:41:49 |\n| Q. Right.
09:38:34
16 | 16
Do I have that right?
09:41:49 |\n| A. Is it Page 113 or 14, 15 or 16 9 Which one
17
09:38:35 | 17
A. I officially started to work for
09:41:53 |\n| 18 you are talking about?
09:38:39 | 18 Golden Spring (New York) from 2018, yes. You are
09:41:57 |\n| Q. I understand. I understand your confusion.
09:38:41
19 | 19 correct on that.
09:42:03 |\n| When I refer to page numbers of this
20
09:38:44 | 20
Q. Okay. And prior to that, you worked for
09:42:04 |\n| 21 transcript, I am only talking about the pages -- the
09:38:46 | 21 Golden Spring (Hong Kong); is that correct?
09:42: 10 |\n| 22 page numbers for the small pages.
09:38:51 | 22
A. I believe it is more a mix because I was
09:42:14 |\n| 23
A. Oh.
09:38:53 | 23 working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and same time
09:42:20 |\n| 24
Q. Okay?
09:38:54 | 24 I was working for Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business
09:42:23 |\n| 25
And I know it is confusing. I'm sorry.
09:38:57 | 25 in China also; so that is the reason when I referred 09:42:29 |\n| Page 22 | Page 24 |\n| 1
A. All right. Let me go back and find it.
09:38:59 | I I was in Hong Kong in 2016. That is a -- as I said, 09 :42 :33 |\n| Q. Yeah. Go back to page thirty of the little
2
09:39:01 | 2 a penod of consecutive time for me to -- leaving
09·42 ·42 |\n| 3 pages.
09:39:04 | 3 Hong Kong and working Hong Kong -- for Hong Kong.
09:42:46 |\n| 4
A. (Witness complies.)
09:39:06 | 09:42:49
4 That is my -- that is my representation. |\n| Yes.
09:39: 14
5 | 5
Q Were you -- at the time you were working for 09:42:51 |\n| | 6 Golden Spring (Hong Kong), were you physically in
09:42:55 |\n| | |\n| I'm on the little page, on page thirty right 09:39:14
6 | |\n| 7 now.
09:39: 17 | 7 Hong Kong'
09:43 :00 |\n| Q. Okay. Yes. Sorry for the confusion.
8
09:39:17 | 8
A Not always.
09:43 :03 |\n| 9
So take a look at line ten on page thirty,
09:39: 19 | 9
Q Okay Whendidyoumovetothe
09:43:05 |\n| 10 and you will see a question there about when you
09:39:22 | 10 United States?
09:43:11 |\n| 11 moved to Hong Kong to work for Golden Spring
09:39:26 | II
A What do you mean, move, sir?
09:43.11 |\n| 12 (Hong Kong).
09:39:30 | Q When did you come to the United States for
09:43:17
12 |\n| Do you see that?
09:39:31
13 | 09:43:22
13 the first time? How about that? |\n| 14
A. Yes.
09:39:35 | 14
A That was many years ago.
09:43:26 |\n| I saw this.
09:39:53
15 | Q Did you come to the United States during the 09:43:28
15 |\n| Q. Okay. And so my question for you is --
09:39:55
16 | 16 time that you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:43 :34 |\n| 17 first of all, let's just focus on the date.
09:40:00 | 09:43:37
17
A Yes. |\n| 18
Okay? Having read this, does that inform
09:40:03 | During the time I worked for Golden Spring
09:43 :39
18 |\n| 19 your judgment about when it was that you began to
09:40:09 | 19 (Hong Kong), I did travel into the United States
09:43:43 |\n| 20 work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:40:12 | 09:43:46
20 also. |\n| A. My answer, back to this page, which I mean
09:40: 16
21 | Q Okay When was that?
09:43 :47
21 |\n| 22 that, yes. I moved to Hong Kong in 2015, and then
09:40:25 | A Oh, I couldn't recall. It should -- between 09:43 :49
22 |\n| 23 I worked in there. I traveled to -- in U.S. But if 09:40:28 | 23 2015 to 2017 or '18. I couldn't recall.
09:43:56 |\n| 24 you have my full Golden Spring (New York) corporation 09:40:34 24
25 records, I officially start work in Golden Spring
09:40:41 | Q When you came to the United States in that
09:44:07
25 time period, did you return to China?
09:44: 10 |\n\n7 (Pages 22 - 25)\n\n| 1
MR. ROSEN: Objection. Counsel, could you
09:44:15 | 1
Q. Did you move? Do you know what I mean by
09:46:42 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 please show me which of the 30(b)(6) topics this
09:44: 18 | 2 move?
09:46:47 |\n| 3 relates to and give me some explanation as to where
09:44:21 | 3
A. Yes.
09:46:47 |\n| 4 you are going here.
09:44:24 | 4
Q. Okay. Did there come a time when you moved 09:46:48 |\n| 5
MR. HARBACH: Yeah. Sure.
09:44:26 | 5 to the United States for work?
09:46:51 |\n| I am really just trying to get basic
09:44:26
6 | A. Yes.
09:46:59
6 |\n| 7 background of the witness' affiliation with the
09:44:29 | Q. When was that?
09:47:00
7 |\n| 8 company that she represents. It is very basic. I am 09:44:34 | A. That was started I became to be the officer 09:47:01
8 |\n| | 9 and director of Golden Spring (New York). |\n| 9 trying to figure out when she worked, where, and for
09:44:36 | 09:47:09 |\n| 10 whom. That's it. It informs her competency as the
09:44:40 | 10
Q. Which was when?
09:47:11 |\n| 11 30(b)(6) witness, and it gives con- -- it gives
09:44:44 | A. Thatwasbeginningof2018,lateof2017.
09:47:17
11 |\n| 12 context to her later testimony.
09:44:47 | 12 I couldn't remember. It should be beginning of 2018. 09:47:25 |\n| MR. ROSEN: I -- honestly, I don't see how
09:44:49
13 | Q. Okay. I'm going to show you another
09:47:29
13 |\n| 14 her travel plans has anything to do with this.
09:44:52 | 14 document.
09:47:36 |\n| And I'm going to instruct the witness at
09:44:56
15 | 15
MR. HARBACH: We'll call this one number
09:47:38 |\n| 16 this point to simply not answer questions about her
09:44:58 | 16 two.
09:47:41 |\n| 17 travel and her whereabouts at various times. If you 09:45:02 | 17
(Deposition Exhibit Number 2
09:47:41 |\n| 18 would like to ask questions about her specific duties 09:45:05 | 18
was marked for identification.)
09:48:39 |\n| 19 and what she performed and when she performed it,
09:45:08 | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:48:39 |\n| 20 I have no objection to that.
09:45:11 | 20
Q. Do you see Exhibit 2 in your folder,
09:48:40 |\n| MR. HARBACH: And you --you are going to
09:45:12
21 | 21 Ms. Wang?
09:48:42 |\n| 22 object to any question about her physical location
09:45: 13 | 22
A. Yes.
09:48:44 |\n| 23 when she performed those duties? Is that what
09:45: 16 | Q. Okay. It should also be a .pdf. Please
09:48:46
23 |\n| 24 I understand?
09:45:18 | 24 open it up.
09:48:51 |\n| MR. ROSEN: You --your questions were going 09:45:20
25 | 25
A. (Witness complies.)
09:48:52 |\n| Page 26 | Page 28 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I way beyond that. If you want to ask her specific
09:45:23 | I
Yes, I did.
09:48:54 |\n| 2 duty and where she was, then we can address that
09:45:25 | 2
Q. Okay. Now, on this one I'm going to ask you 09:48:55 |\n| 3 question as it comes up. But you are asking about
09:45:28 | 3 to turn to page -- okay -- forty-nine.
09:49:01 |\n| 4 general travel plans. You are asking about her--
09:45:31 | 4
A. (Witness complies.)
09:49:14 |\n| 5 her work for other companies. She is a 30(b)(6)
09:45:35 | 5
Q. Tell me when you are on page forty-nine.
09:49:27 |\n| 6 witness for Golden Spring (New York), and that is
09:45:38 | 6
A. Yes, I am.
09:49:34 |\n| 7 where the questions should be directed.
09:45:41 | 7
Q. Okay. Looking at line five, the question
09:49:35 |\n| 8 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:45:44 | 8 was put to you:
09:49:39 |\n| 9
Q. Ms. Wang, where were you physically located 09:45:45 | \"QUESTION: And when did you move to
09:49:41
9 |\n| 10 when you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:45:47 | 10
New York to start working for the Guo
09:49:43 |\n| A. What do you mean, physically located?
09:45 :55
11 | family?\"
09:49:47
11 |\n| | |\n| 12 I mean, like, stay in hotel or staying-- I mean,
09:45:59 | 12
Your answer:
09:49:48 |\n| 13 I don't understand, sir.
09:46:03 | \"ANSWER: That was a date I never
09:49:50
13 |\n| 14
Q. What country were you in when you worked for 09:46:04 | 14
forget. That was April 23rd, 2015.\"
09:49:52 |\n| 15 Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:46:07 | Do you see that there?
09:49:59
15 |\n| A. I was in Hong Kong, and I was -- I traveled 09 :46: 10
16 | A. Yes,ldid.
16
09:50:01 |\n| 17 in the U.S. I traveled in UK. I mean, I still don't 09:46: 14 | 17
MR. HARBACH: Okay. This deposition, for
09:50:02 |\n| 18 understand what do you mean physically located, but
09:46: 19 | 18 the record -- correction.
09:50:04 |\n| 19 that is the places I had been to.
09:46:22 | 19
This testimony, for the record, was given in 09:50:06 |\n| 20
Q. Okay. Did there come a time when you
09:46:24 | 20 May of 2019, just under three years ago.
09:50:09 |\n| 21 merge -- moved to the United States permanently for
09:46:29 | 21 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:50:15 |\n| 22 work?
09:46:35 | 22
Q. So is that accurate that you moved to
09:50: 16 |\n| 23
A. Sir, what do you mean permanently?
09:46:35 | 23 New York to start working for the Guo family in April 09:50:20 |\n| 24
Q. Did you move?
09:46:38 | 24 of2015?
09:50:24 |\n| 25
A. Permanent --
09:46:40
Page 27 | A. As I said, English is not my mother
25
09:50:26
Page 29 |\n\n8 (Pages 26 - 29)\n\n| | 1 language. When you say move, I mean, I understand
09:50:32 | | 1 New York and Hong Kong both. I don't see now where
09:54:09 |\n|----------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 better by now more than two, three -- three, four
09:50:35 | | 2 there is any problem. I said I'll work in New York
09:54:11 |\n| | 3 years ago, and that was right. I left China. I came 09:50:40 | | 3 and Hong Kong -- starting from New York and back to
09:54: 11 |\n| | 4 to New York-- I came to New York first. Then I went 09:50:45 | | 4 Hong Kong because I originally need to follow
09:54:13 |\n| 5 back to Hong Kong. | 09:50:49 | | 5 Mr. Qiang Guo, if that makes sense to you, sir.
09:54:18 |\n| 6 | So regarding work for it the Guo family,
09:50:50 | 6 | Q. Well, I just want to point out that I wasn't 09:54:21 |\n| | 7 which I refer always as my -- my boss -- like, the
09:50:54 | | 7 suggesting there was a problem. I am just trying to
09:54:25 |\n| | 8 owner of Golden Spring, Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g
09:51:00 | | 8 understand the facts of what happened; so here is my 09:54:28 |\n| | 9 G-u-o --that is the same Guo family.
09:51:06 | | 9 next question.
09:54:31 |\n| 10 | Q. So did you start working for the Guo family
09: 51:09 | 10 | When did you start working at Golden Spring 09:54:32 |\n| | II in New York in April of2015? Is that correct or not 09:51:23 | | 11 (New York)?
09:54:36 |\n| 12 correct? | 09:51:33 | 12 | A. I believe I replied your question, sir,
09:54:40 |\n| 13 | A. I started to work for the Guo family from
09:51:33 | | 13 about Golden Spring (New York). That was started --
09:54:44 |\n| | 14 2000-- end of 2008. That is, like --
09:51:39 | | 14 I was appointed as officer and director of
09:54:46 |\n| 15 | Q. Yeah. Let me -- let me interrupt and ask my 09:51:43 | | 15 Golden Spring (New York).
09:54:50 |\n| | 16 question again as you may have misunderstood it.
09:51:46 | 16 | Q. When?
09:54:50 |\n| 17 | Did you start working for the Guo family in
09: 51: 49 | 17 | A. 2018.
09:54:5 I |\n| | 18 New York in April of2015?
09:51:52 | 18 | Q. Do you recall when in 2018?
09:54:54 |\n| 19 | A. Start work for the Guo family. I mean,
09:52:00 | 19 | A. In spring of 2018.
09:54:59 |\n| | 20 again, I don't remember this question many years ago. 09:52: 13 | 20 | Q. Okay. Let's go back to Exhibit I. Let me
09:55:02 |\n| 21 As I said -- | 09:52:17 | | 21 know when you have got Exhibit I pulled up, Ms. Wang. 09:55:14 |\n| 22
Q. No. | 09:52: 18 | 22 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:55: 19 |\n| 23 | You -- you -- you testified that it was
09: 5 2: 18 | 23 | Yes. I'm here.
09:55:20 |\n| | 24 a date you'll never forget; so that is why I'm
09:52:20 | 24 | Q. Okay. Page numbers again, I'm talking about 09:55:22 |\n| | 25 pressing you a little bit on it.
09:52:25 | | 25 the little page numbers. If you please go to page
09:55:25 |\n| | Page 30 | | Page 32 |\n| | | | |\n| I | My question is when did you start working
09:52:27 | | I thirty-five.
09:55:32 |\n| | 2 for the Guo family in New York? The transcript here
09: 52:32
3 seems to suggest that that was in April of 2015, and 09:52:38 | 2 | (Witness complies.)
09:55:36
A. |\n| | | 3 | Let me know --
09:55:50
Q. |\n| | 4 I'm asking you whether that is accurate.
09:52:44
Is it accurate? Is it not accurate? Or do
09:52:47 | 4 | Yes.
09:55:51
A.
-- when you are there.
09:55:52 |\n| 5 | | 5 | Q. |\n| 6 you not know? | 09:52:51 | 6 | A.
Yes. I'm here.
09:55:54 |\n| 7 | A. April 23rd in 2015. That is the date
09:52:52 | 7 | Q. Okay. Take a look on page thirty-five of
09:55:55 |\n| | 8 I never forgot because I left China. I was never --
09:53:00 | | 8 Exhibit 1, line ten.
09:55:59 |\n| | 9 I was never able to go back.
09:53:03 | 9 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:56:00 |\n| 10
Okay? | 09:53:06 | 10 | Q. The question reads:
09:56:05 |\n| 11 | So that is accurate. When I answered this
09:53:07 | 11 | \"QUESTION: You said in February of2018 09:56:07 |\n| | 12 question, I don't believe I have any interpreter help 09:53:10 | 12 | you came to work for Golden Spring
09:56:09 |\n| | 13 me by then; so the question looks like right now
09:53: 14 | 13 | (New York)?\"
09:56:09 |\n| | 14 reading as when did you move to New York to start
09:53:18 | 14 | And your answer was:
09:56:13 |\n| | 15 working for the Guo family? I was not quite
09:53:21 | 15 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
09:56:15 |\n| | 16 understanding this question withouttranslation by
09:53:24 | 16 | Now, my only focus here is on whether
09:56:16 |\n| | 17 then; so if you ask me when I start to work for Guo
09:53 :27 | | 17 February of '18 sounds like the correct date to you
09:56: 18 |\n| | 18 family, which I can tell you, I started-- my career 09:53:31 | | 18 of when you started working for Golden Spring
09:56:22 |\n| | 19 started from 2008, but I started to work for Guo
09:53:36 | | 19 (New York).
09:56:25 |\n| | 20 family outside of China. That was started from 2015. 09:53:40 | 20 | A. Sir, I replied as in spring of 2018.
09:56:28 |\n| 21 | That is my correct and truthful answer now.
09:53:44 | | 21 !mean--
09:56:33 |\n| 22 | Q. And that was in New York City; correct?
09:53:47 | 22 | Q. I'm -- I'm not suggesting anything other
09:56:36 |\n| 23 | A. Starting from New York and Hong Kong.
09:53:49 | | 23 than whether February is correct.
09:56:39 |\n| 24
Q. Okay. | 09:53:53 | 24 | Does that sound about right to you?
09:56:42 |\n| 25 | A. I mean, by then Mr. Qiang Guo, he was in
09:54:06 | 25 | A. I don't recall. In spring of 2018. You
09:56:46 |\n| | Page 31 | | Page 33 |\n\n9 (Pages 30 - 33)\n\n| | 1 could check on Golden Spring (New York)'s corporation 09:56:49 | 1 whether there was a chauffeur employed at
10:00:03 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 book. It should be clearly in there.
09:56:54 | 2 Golden Spring (New York) when you started there?
10:00:07 |\n| 3 | Q. Was anyone else working at Golden Spring
09:56:56 | A. Sir, I am the witness today-- in my
3
10:00:12 |\n| | 4 (New York) when you started there in the spring of
09:57:07 | 4 understanding is about bankruptcy. I mean that this
10:00:18 |\n| | 5 2018?
09:57:09 | 5 is my task -- this was my testimony how many years
10:00:21 |\n| 6 | A. What do you mean, is there anyone working at 09:57: 10 | 6 ago? Three, four years ago?
10:00:27 |\n| | 7 Golden Spring (New York)?
09:57:20 | 7
I mean, I could remember by then because
10:00:29 |\n| 8 | Q. Well, you mentioned that you were, I think
09:57:21 | 8 that was a relatively closer date. I was deposed in 10:00:32 |\n| | 9 you said, appointed to Golden Spring in the spring of 09:57:24 | 9 October 2018, as you said. Now it is almost three
10:00:37 |\n| | 10 2018.
09:57:29 | 10 and a half, four years after. I mean, just so many
10:00:41 |\n| 11 | My question for you is at the time that you 09:57:32 | 11 years pass by, I couldn't remember that. But since
10:00:45 |\n| | 12 were appointed, were there any other people working
09:57:34 | 12 my testimony back to 2018 in here said that, that is
10:00:50 |\n| | 13 for Golden Spring (New York)?
09:57:40 | 13 possible. That reminded me. That's right. But that 10:00:54 |\n| 14 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo, himself.
09:57:44 | 14 doesn't mean that after three and a half, four years, 10:00:57 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay. Andwhatwashisjob?
09:57:49 | 15 I still should remember all the details; right? I am 10:01:02 |\n| 16 | A. He is one of the directors of Golden Spring 09:57:55 | 16 being deposed in here about a bankruptcy.
10:01:02 |\n| | 17 (New York).
09:57:59 | 17
Am I correct about this?
10:01:07 |\n| 18 | Q. Anyone else?
09:57:59 | Q. Well, you are --you are right about one
18
10:01:09 |\n| 19 | A. No.
09:58:03 | 19 part, and that is that I offered you this information 10:01:11 |\n| 20 | Just me and himself, when I was appointed.
09:58:08 | 20 to see if it would help refresh your memory.
10:01:14 |\n| 21 | Q. So no other employees who worked at
09:58:14 | 21
And, indeed, that was the question, whether
10:01:19 |\n| | 22 Golden Spring at that time?
09: 58: 19 | 22 reading this transcript helps refresh your memory
10:01:22 |\n| 23 | A. I don't recall.
09:58:23 | 23 about whether there was a chauffeur working at
10:01:25 |\n| 24 | Q. Do you recall whether there was a chauffeur 09:58:23 | 24 Golden Spring (New York) when you started.
10:01:30 |\n| | 25 who worked for Golden Spring (New York) at that time? 09:58:33 25 | A. I --
10:01 :31 |\n| | Page 34 | Page 36 |\n| I | A. I don't recall.
09:58:35 | MR. ROSEN: At this point, I'm going to
10:01:31
I |\n| 2 | Q. Let's take a look at Exhibit 1 again.
09:58:35 | 2 instruct the witness not to answer any further
10:01:33 |\n| 3 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:58:41 | 3 questions along these lines.
10:01 :36 |\n| 4 | Q. And this time let's go to page forty.
09:58:51 | 4
This is a deposition in a contested matter
10:01:37 |\n| 5 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:58:55 | 5 for approval ofa DIP financing arrangement in
10:01:41 |\n| 6 | Q. Tell me when you are there.
09:59:02 | 6 a bankruptcy case. So far, of the list of30(b)(6)
10:01:49 |\n| 7 | A. Yes, I am.
09:59:07 | 7 topics, these questions barely hit on any of these --
10:01:52 |\n| | | |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. Take a look at line seven. You say:
09:59:08 | 8 of the topics, maybe a little bit on the ownership
10:01:55 |\n| 9 | \"ANSWER: I remember that there was
09:59:24 | 9 structure. You have already covered the officers,
10:01:58 |\n| 10 | a driver. I met a chauffeur, a Korean
09:59:25 | 10 employees, and directors, and so far nothing about
10:02:02 |\n| 11 | gentleman, yes.\"
09:59:30 | 11 a DIP loan.
10:02:06 |\n| 12 | And then there is a question:
09:59:33 | So I would ask you, if you are going to do
12
10:02:07 |\n| 13 | \"QUESTION: You believe he was an
09:59:35 | 13 a fishing expedition or try and extend litigation
10:02:10 |\n| 14 | employee of Golden Spring before February of 09:59:36 | 14 from other courts here, that! would have to instruct 10:02: 12 |\n| 15 | '18?\"
09:59:39 | 15 the witness not to answer.
10:02:17 |\n| 16 | Your answer:
09:59:40 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:02:18 |\n| 17 | \"ANSWER: February of 2018, that was he
09:59:43 | 17
Q. Ms. Wang, just a moment ago you said that
10:02: 18 |\n| 18 | told me by then.
09:59:46 | 18 reading this deposition transcript did help you
10:02:22 |\n| 19 | \"QUESTION: You met a chauffeur who told 09:59:48 | 19 remember.
10:02:26 |\n| 20 | you that he was an employee of Golden Spring 09:59:50 | And so my question is was there or was there 10:02:26
20 |\n| 21 | (New York)?
09:59:53 | 21 not a chauffeur working at Golden Spring (New York)
10:02:29 |\n| 22 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
09:59:54 | 22 at the time you started there?
10:02:32 |\n| 23 | And then you say that he was the one who
09:59:55 | 23
A. As my testimony back to 2018 said so, it is
10:02:37 |\n| | 24 picked you up at the airport.
09:59:58 | 24 possible. You are helpful, sir.
10:02:42 |\n\n10 (Pages 34 - 37)\n\n| | 1 New York when you started working at Golden Spring
10:03:01 | 1
Q. No problem at all.
10:06:04 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 (New York)?
10:03:03 | 2
A. Thank you.
10:06:08 |\n| 3 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. I instruct the
10:03:03 | 3
Q. So we'll stick with Qiang Guo.
10:06:09 |\n| | 4 witness not to answer.
10:03:05 | 4
A. Thank you.
10:06:14 |\n| 5 | This has no relevance whatsoever to any of
10:03:06 | 5
Q. Okay. And you just testified that he is the 10:06:14 |\n| | 6 the 30(b)(6) deposition topics, none. And the
10:03:06 | 6
son of Ho Wan Kwok, the debtor; right?
10:06:17 |\n| | 7 purpose of this is strictly to either relitigate or
10:03: 12 | 7
A. You are right, sir. Yes.
10:06:21 |\n| | 8 extend litigation from other courts or to harass this 10:03: 13 | Q. So my question is was Qiang Guo living in
8
10:06:22 |\n| | 9 witness.
10:03:17 | 9 New York when you started working at Golden Spring
10:06:26 |\n| | 10 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:03:18 | 10 (New York)?
10:06:28 |\n| 11 | Q. Ms. Wang, do you know who Mileson Kwok is?
10:03:18 11 | A. Whatdoyoumean,livinginNewYork,sir?
10:06:30 |\n| 12 | A. Can you spell the name again, sir, please?
10:03:25 | 12 Like, I mean, I don't understand. Travel in there.
10:06:35 |\n| 13 | Q. Yes.
10:03:28 | 13 I met him in there, yes. I don't understand what you 10:06:38 |\n| 14 | M-i-1-e-s-o-n Kwok, K-w-o-k.
10:03:29 | 14 mean, living in New York.
10:06:42 |\n| 15 | Do you know who that is?
10:03:39 | MR. HARBACH: Sunny, perhaps you can help
10:06:45
15 |\n| 16 | A. I don't know who you are referring, sir.
10:03:41 | 16 me. My question in English would be did
10:06:48 |\n| 17 | Q. Okay. You have mentioned someone who was
10:03:43 | 17 Mr. Qiang Guo live in New York at the time you
10:06:52 |\n| | 18 a director of Golden Spring at the time you became
10:03:47 | 18 started working at Golden Spring (New York)?
10:06:56 |\n| | 19 a director.
10:03:51 | 19
Could you please translate that for me?
10:06:59 |\n| 20 | What is that person's name?
10:03:52 | 20
THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)
10:07:36 |\n| 21 | A. If you refer to Mr. Qiang Guo, the same
10:03:56 | 21
THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)
10:07:36 |\n| | 22 director when I was appointed, his name is Q-i-a-n-g
10:04:01 | 22 I officially started working for Golden Spring
10:07:36 |\n| | 23 G-u-o. His English name is Mileson, M-i-1-e-s-o-n,
10:04:08 | 23 (NewYork)in2018. Idon'trecall whether or not
10:07:39 |\n| | 24 and the last name is G-u-o, sir, if that is helpful
10:04:20 | 24 Mr. Qiang Guo was living in New York at the time.
10:07:41 |\n| | 25 to you.
10:04:25 | 25 Ill |\n| | Page 38 | Page 40 |\n| | | |\n| 1 | Is this the person you are referring?
10:04:27 | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:07:46 |\n| 2 | Q. It -- it is.
10:04:29 | Q. Did you see him in New York personally
10:07:46
2 |\n| 3 | A. Okay.
10:04:29 | 3 around the time that you started working at
10:07:54 |\n| 4 | Q. And--
10:04:29 | 4 Golden Spring (New York)?
10:07:57 |\n| 5 | A. I never heard about someone called
10:04:30 | 5
A. I don't recall.
10:08:01 |\n| | 6 Mileson Kwok. I mean, I never heard about this
10:04:33 | Q. Have you ever seen Mr. Qiang Guo personally
10:08:02
6 |\n| | 7 person.
10:04:36 | 7 in New York?
10:08: 10 |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. How is Mileson Guo related to
10:04:36 | A. Yes, I did.
10:08: 13
8 |\n| | 9 Wengui Guo? And that is spelled W-e-n-g-u-i G-u-o.
10:04:45 | 9
Q. When was the last time?
10:08:14 |\n| 10 | How are they related, if at all, if you
10:04:57 | A. I don't recall.
10:08: 18
10 |\n| | 11 know?
10:05:00 | Q. Within the last year?
10:08:21
11 |\n| 12 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o -- he is
10:05:00 | 12
A. I don't recall.
10:08:25 |\n| | 13 the son of Mr. H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k.
10:05:07 | 13
Q. Within the last five years?
10:08:26 |\n| 14 | Q. And that is H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k; correct?
10:05:23 | 14
A. Yes.
10:08:30 |\n| 15 | A. You are right, sir.
10:05:29 | It was possible.
10:08:37
15 |\n| 16 | Q. So for ease of understanding for everyone
10:05:30 | 16
Q. Was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok living in New York at
10:08:38 |\n| | 17 who is reading this transcript, can we please refer
10:05:33 | 17 the time you started working for Golden Spring
10:08:47 |\n| | 18 to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's son as Mileson? Is that okay
10:05:36 | 18 (New York)?
10:08:49 |\n| | 19 withyou?
10:05:45 | 19
MR. ROSEN: Objection. This is the same
10:08:51 |\n| 20 | A. No, sir.
10:05:46 | 20 issue.
10:08:53 |\n| 21 | I will prefer to stay with Mr. Qiang Guo.
10:05:47 | 21
I think-- Counsel, could you please explain 10:08:55 |\n| | 22 The reason because, again, English is not my mother
10:05:51 | 22 the relevance of this question to me.
10:08:56 |\n| | 23 language. I do not want to pronounce something which 10:05:54 | 23
MR. HARBACH: Well, as you know,
10:09:02 |\n| | 24 was -- which could be misunderstood by everyone here, 10:05:58 | 24 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is the debtor, and it is certainly
10:09:03 |\n| | 25 iflmay.
10:06:03 | 25 with- -- within the scope of appropriate topics, in
10:09:07 |\n\n**11** (Pages 38 - 41)\n\n| 1 our view, for me to explore Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's
10:09:13 | A. Yes.
10: 12:23 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 relationship to Golden Spring (New York), which is
10:09: 17 | 2
Q. Did you create this document?
10: 12:24 |\n| 3 his putative lender on this DIP loan; so I'm starting 10:09:20 | A. I don't recall. It should be prepared by --
3
10:12:26 |\n| 4 with the question about where Mr. Kwok lived at the
10:09:29 | 4 I don't recall.
10:12:37 |\n| 5 time the witness started working at Golden Spring
10:09:32 | Q. Give me just one moment, please.
10:12:37
5 |\n| 6 (New York). That is the relevance.
10:09:34 | 6
MR. HARBACH: Sorry for the -- the delay,
10:13:55 |\n| 7 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:09:35 | 7 y'all, buthopefullyl'vejustsavedusalittle
10:13:58 |\n| Q. Ms. Wang, what is the answer?
10:09:35
8 | 8 time.
10:14:02 |\n| MR. ROSEN: I'm going to instruct the
10:09:37
9 | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:14:04 |\n| 10 witness not to answer this question. This is --
10:09:38 | 10
Q. I'm going to ask you to put aside Exhibit 3, 10: 14:05 |\n| 11 there is no relevance that I can see to disclosing
10:09:42 | 11 and I'll come back to that a little later.
10:14:08 |\n| 12 the whereabouts and the present location of parties
10:09:44 | 12
Okay?
10: 14:12 |\n| 13 here to a DIP loan funding. This is just -- it is
I 0:09:48 | A. Yes.
10:14:12
13 |\n| 14 just harassment.
10:09:53 | I 0: 14: 13
14
Q. When -- when you were working for |\n| MR. HARBACH: So you are -- you are
10:09:57
15 | 15 Golden Spring (Hong Kong), did you have any titles?
10:14:28 |\n| 16 instructing the witness not to answer, Scott?
10:09:58 | 16
A. I don't recall. Too many years ago.
10: 14:35 |\n| 17
MR. ROSEN: Yes, I am.
10:10:01 | 17
Q. What were your duties at Golden Spring
10:14:42 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Okay.
10:10:03
18 | 18 (Hong Kong)?
10: 14:45 |\n| 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:10:03 | 19
MR. ROSEN: Objection. This -- can you
10:14:47 |\n| 20
Q. Ms. Wang, when you started working at
10: 10:04 | 20 please point to which topic on 30(b)(6) that
10:14:50 |\n| 21 Golden Spring (New York), what was your title?
10: 10:06 | 21 a corporate witness of Golden Spring (New York)that
10:14:55 |\n| 22
A. I was -- I am -- I was the -- the president, 10: 10: 11 | 22 this would -- this would be appropriate to?
10: 14:59 |\n| 23 secretary, I believe treasurer also, and director.
10:10:16 | 23
MR. HARBACH: Again, I'm exploring her
10:15:01 |\n| 24
Q. So you said, to make sure I have this right: 10: 10:23 | 24 competency to testify as a representative of
10: 15:04 |\n| 25 President, secretary, treasurer, and director; is
10:10:27 | 25 Golden Spring (New York) by reference to her prior
I 0: 15 :07 |\n| Page 42 | Page 44 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I that correct?
10:10:31 | 1 experience and its relationship to her current
10:15:10 |\n| 2
A. Correct.
10:10:32 | 2 titles
10 15 13 |\n| 3
Q. I'm going to show you -- let's call this
10: 10:32 | l\\1R. ROSEN: I'll let the objection stand.
10:15:16
3 |\n| 4 numberthree.
10:10:41 | 4
But you can answer the question.
10:15:19 |\n| (Deposition Exhibit Number 3
10: 10:43
5 | 5 BY l\\1R. HARBACH:
10:15:22 |\n| was marked for identification.)
10: 10 :48
6 | 6
Q Thequestion,Ms. Wang, was what were your
10:15:23 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Wait for it to get populated.
10:10:48
7 | 7 duties at Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
10:15:25 |\n| I'm told it should be there. I have it.
10: 11 :27
8 | 8
A I took instruction from the owner of
10:15:28 |\n| 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:11:30 | 9 company, Mr. Qiang Guo, and worked for him.
10:15:34 |\n| 10
Q. Ms. Wang, do you have number three?
10:11:30 | 10
Q Did you -- domg what?
10:15:42 |\n| A. Yes, sir.
10:11:34
11 | A Doing the task that he request me to do.
10.15:46
11 |\n| I have it.
10:11:35
12 | 12 I don't recall. It is too many years ago.
10:15:52 |\n| 13
Q. Okay. Super.
10:11:36 | Q You -- you -- you don't recall what your
13
10:15:54 |\n| 14
Open that -- that one up.
10: 11:37
A. (Witness complies.)
10:11:39
15 | 14 tasks were?
10:15:56
15
A It is pretty diversified. |\n| Q. And tell me if you recognize this document.
16
10: 11:42 | 10:15:58
16
Q Okay Do you recall whether when you were
10:16:04 |\n| 17
A. Yes.
10: 11:46 | 17 working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) you did any
10:16:15 |\n| 18
Q. Okay. This is a document that you helped
10:11:50 | 18 work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
10: 16:20 |\n| 19 create and submitted with an affidavit, isn't it?
I 0: 11: 57 | 19
A I'm sorry.
10:16:21 |\n| | |\n| 20
A. What do you mean I created, sir?
10: 12:01
Q. Well, let me withdraw that question.
10:12:08
21 | 20
Sir, what is your question?
10:16:22
21 |\n| | Q When you were working for Golden Spring
10:16:24 |\n| 22
You said that you recognized this document.
10:12: 11
What is it?
10:12: 13
23 | 22 Hong Kong, did you do any work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
10:16:30
23
A I don't recall.
10:16:32 |\n| 24
A. It is a director and officer register.
10: 12:14 | 24
Q Who appointed you to be president,
10:16:33 |\n| Q. ForGoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited?
10:12:19
25 | 25 secretary, treasurer, and a director of Golden Spring 10:16:45 |\n\n12 (Pages 42 - 45)\n\n| 1 (NewYork)Limited?
10:16:51 | Q. The transcript that! just read from was not 10:20:21
1 |\n|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
A. I was appointed by Mr. Qiang Guo.
10:16:52 | 2 a deposition. It was testimony in court, and it was
10:20:23 |\n| 3
Q. When he appointed you to those positions,
10: 16:56 | 3 in May of 2019.
10:20:28 |\n| 4 what did he tell you your duties would be?
10: 17:00 | 4
A. Okay.
10:20:32 |\n| A. I was appointed, and he -- he requested me
10: 1 7: 03
5 | Q. But these -- these appear to have been your
10:20:32
5 |\n| 6 to operate -- to run Golden Spring (New York), his
10:17:14 | 6 words, and so that is why I asked the question.
10:20:35 |\n| 7 company, as general.
10: 17: 19 | 7
A. So back to 2019, my testifying -- my
10:20:39 |\n| 8
Q. Tell me what you mean by as general.
10:17:21 | 8 testimony was correct. I mean, the entire --
10:20:44 |\n| A. I mean any task, assignment as the owner of 10: 17:25
9 | 9 Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business, including his
10:20:50 |\n| 10 company, himself, he requested to do that I will work 10:17:34 | 10 employees, were all persecuted. They are either
10:20:53 |\n| 11 for him.
10:17:39 | 11 arrested, kidnapped, or disappeared. I was one of
10:21 :00 |\n| Q. When you assumed the role of president,
12
10:17:40 | 12 the survivor by then. That was correct.
10:21:04 |\n| 13 secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring
10: 17:56 | And then when I testified back to 2019,
10:21:07
13 |\n| 14 (New York), did you have any financial professional
10:18:02 | 14 I said I don't have -- that was -- I am humble;
10:21:10 |\n| 15 knowledge?
10:18:05 | 15 right? So that was my testimony-- test- --
10:21:18 |\n| 16
A. What do you mean, financial professional
10:18:07 | 16 testimony. And then now in 2022, I mean, I could
10:21:21 |\n| 17 knowledge, sir?
10:18:14 | 17 learn lots in three years; right?
10:21:26 |\n| 18
Q. Let's go back to Exhibit 1.
10:18:15 | Q. Of course.
18
10:21:29 |\n| A. (Witness complies.)
10:18:18
19 | A. So--
10:21:29
19 |\n| 20
Q. Correction. Sorry.
10: 18:24 | Q. Of course.
20
10:21:29 |\n| Exhibit 2.
10:18:27
21 | A. -- that doesn't mean I don't have anything
21
10:21:29 |\n| 22
A. (Witness complies.)
10:18:28 | 22 for now --
10:21:31 |\n| Q. Page forty-seven.
10:18:35
23 | Q. Of course.
10:21:32
23 |\n| 24
A. (Witness complies.)
10:18:39 | 24
A. -- to testify in this bankruptcy, you know,
10:21:32 |\n| 25
Q. Actually, you might need to look a bit
10: 18:51 | 25 deposition.
10:21:35 |\n| Page 46 | Page 48 |\n| | |\n| | Q. Yeah. Iunderstandthat--thatthreeyears 10:21:35
I |\n| I earlier on to forty-six.
10:18:55
2
Tell me when you are there.
10: 18:59 | 2 have passed. My question isn't about today.
10:21:38 |\n| A. I am on page forty-six.
10:19:01
3 | 3
My question is about the day when you were
10:21 :43 |\n| Q. Okay. At the bottom of page forty-six there 10:19:03
4 | 4 appointed to be president, secretary, treasurer, and
10:21:47 |\n| 5 is an answer that begins -- and it was in response to 10: 19:07 | 5 director of Golden Spring (New York). I'm asking
10:21:53 |\n| 6 a question about some exhibit you were being shown.
10: 19: 11 | 6 about that day.
10:21:56 |\n| 7 In the course of your answer, which goes on to page
10:19: 15 | And my question is as of that day, did you
10:21:59
7 |\n| 8 forty-seven, you say, among other things:
10: 19: 19 | 8 have any financial professional knowledge?
10:22:03 |\n| \"ANSWER: I am administrator to
10:19:22
9 | A. What kind of financial professional
10:22:08
9 |\n| Golden Spring. This is not my choice because 10: 19:24
10 | 10 knowledge you are looking for back to three years
10:22:13 |\n| II
Chinese Communist party, they kidnap almost
10: 19:27 | 11 ago, sir?
10:22:15 |\n| all my colleague, between me and the company; 10: 19:32
12 | 12
Q. They were your words, Ms. Wang. You said,
10:22: 16 |\n| so my background, I do not have financial
10:19:35
13 | 13 I do not have financial professional knowledge.
10:22:21 |\n| professional knowledge. I do not have
10:19:38
14 | 14 I don't know what you meant. That would be a good
10:22:26 |\n| American real estate professional knowledge.\" I 0: 19:41
15 | 15 question, but it is what you said; so that is why
10:22:28 |\n| And your answer goes on.
10: 19:44
16 | 16 I used those words in asking you. It is a simple
10:22:33 |\n| 17
But I have just read the two sentences that 10: 19:47 | 17 question.
10:22:36 |\n| 18 Iaminterestedinformyquestionbecausemy
10:19:49 | All I'm asking is at the time you assumed
10:22:38
18 |\n| 19 question to you was when you assumed the roles of
10:19:52 | 19 all of those titles at Golden Spring (New York), did
10:22:41 |\n| 20 president, secretary, treasurer, and director of
10: 19:55 | 20 you have any financial professional knowledge? Yes
10:22:44 |\n| 21 GoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited,didyouhaveany | 10:20:00 21 orno?
10:22:49 |\n| 22 financial professional knowledge?
10:20:04 | A. When I say I didn't-- when I said I don't
10:22:54
22 |\n| What is the answer?
10:20:10
23 | 23 have, as I repeat again, that is our culture -- our
10:22:58 |\n| 24
A. These deposition happened in which year,
10:20:11 | 24 culture, Chinese culture. I was humble to say
10:23:05 |\n| 25 sir? 2018 or '19?
10:20:17 | 25 I don't have professional knowledge.
10:23:09 |\n\n13 (Pages 46 - 49)\n\n| | Q. I understand.
10:23:11 | 1 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family?
10:25:46 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A. English is not my mother language. I do not I 0: 23: 12 | 2
MR. ROSEN: Objection. Calls for a legal
10:25:51 |\n| | 3 mean that I know nothing about financial, if that is
10:23: 15 | 3 conclusion.
10:25:52 |\n| | 4 the answer you are looking for, sir.
10:23:20 | You can answer that.
10:25:53
4 |\n| 5 | Q. All I'm looking for is the truth, first of
10:23:22 | 5
THE WITNESS: I need interpreter help me.
10:25:56 |\n| | 6 all.
10:23:25 | 6 I don't understand your question, sir.
10:25:59 |\n| 7 | Second, I am not asking you to be humble or
10:23:26 | 7
MR. HARBACH: Okay. But before we -- before 10:26:01 |\n| | 8 proud. I'm just asking you to be honest.
10:23:31 | 8 we go there -- actually, let -- let's -- Sunny, if
10:26:03 |\n| 9 | A. I am.
10:23:34 | 9 you don't mind, I will ask the question again. And
10:26:09 |\n| 10 | Q. So similarly, I mean, you were under oath
10:23:34 | 10 I'm -- I'm sorry to refer to you by your first name.
10:26: 12 |\n| | 11 when you testified in court, and I think the
10:23:38 | 11 That is unprofessional. Sorry. Ms. Johnston.
10:26:15 |\n| | 12 expectation would have been that you be honest then
10:23:40 | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:26:15 |\n| | 13 as well.
10:23:43 | Q. Ms. Wang, the question is in your capacity
10:26:20
13 |\n| 14 | A. I was.
10:23:44 | 14 as president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,
10:26:23 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay. So I wasn't there that day. All
10:23:45 | 15 isn't it true that you serve as an administrator for
10:26:30 |\n| | 16 I have is the transcript. And I'm just being -- I'm
10:23:48 | 16 the interests of Mr. Kwok-- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his
10:26:35 |\n| | 17 being honest with you. That is the reason for my
10:23:52 | 17 family?
10:26:40 |\n| | 18 question is because I saw that you said that you
10:23:54 | 18
MR. ROSEN: I'll repeat the objection.
10:26:43 |\n| | 19 don't have any financial professional knowledge.
10:23:58 | 19
You can answer the question.
10:26:46 |\n| 20 | So I suppose the question is if you were
10:24:01 | 20
MR. HARBACH: (Interprets question.)
10:27:15 |\n| | 21 just being humble back in 2019, do you mean to say
10:24:05 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: The check
10:27:15
21 |\n| | 22 that you, in fact, did have financial professional
10:24: 10 | 22 interpreter heard Mr. Kwok and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and
10:27:11 |\n| | 23 knowledge when you were appointed to all of those
10:24:14 | 23 his family.
10:27:20 |\n| | 24 positions at Golden Spring? Is that what you were
10:24:16 | 24
MR. HARBACH: That is correct.
10:27:21 |\n| | 25 trying to say?
10:24:20 | 25
That was the question.
10:27:22 |\n| | Page 50 | Page 52 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | A. I am not trying to say anything. My
10:24:20 | 1
THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes.
10:27:24 |\n| | 2 testimony-- back to 2019, that was my testimony, and 10:24:23 | 2
But not Wengui Guo; right?
10:27:25 |\n| | 3 that -- I stay with that. That is a -- true and
10:24:27 | 3
MR. HARBACH: That --
10:27:29 |\n| | 4 accurate information, sir. And regarding right now
10:24:31 | 4
THE INTERPRETER: That is his Mandarin name, 10:27:29 |\n| | 5 what are you looking for after three years, I do not 10:24:34 | 5 Ho Wan Kwok. The Mandarin is Wengui Guo.
10:27:36 |\n| | 6 understand, and I will do my best to help you.
10:24:38 | 6
THE CHECK INTERPRETER: But, I mean, the
10:27:42 |\n| 7 | Q. Okay. Same question about the next sentence 10:24:40 | 7 counsel said Ho Wan Kwok.
10:27:43 |\n| | 8 on the transcript, which says:
10:24:44 | 8
MR. HARBACH: Yes.
10:27:45 |\n| 9 | \"I do not have American real estate
10:24:46 | 9
The reason that counsel said Ho Wan Kwok was 10:27:45 |\n| 10 | professional knowledge.\"
10:24:49 | 10 because the witness said that is how she knows the
10:27:48 |\n| 11 | Was that true when you said those words in
10:24:50 | 11 debtor. I asked her earlier whether she knew the
10:27:51 |\n| | 12 2019?
10:24:53 | 12 name Wengui Guo, and she said she knows him as
10:27:56 |\n| 13 | A. It is correct. I am not real -- realtor.
10:24:55 | 13 Ho Wan Kwok; so that is why I used that name.
10:28:01 |\n| | 14 I am not a licensed realtor; right? That was
10:25:00 | 14
THE INTERPRETER: Yes.
10:28:03 |\n| | 15 correct.
10:25:03 | 15
MR. HARBACH: But we can clear this -- we
10:28:05 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. So it is correct that at least as of 10:25:06 | 16 can clear this up now, Ms. Wilkinson.
10:28:06 |\n| | 17 May of2019 you did not have American real estate
10:25:09 | 17
THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Okay.
10:28:08 |\n| | 18 professional knowledge --
10:25: 14 | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:28:08 |\n| 19 | A. Correct.
10:25:15 | Q. Ms. Wang,whatnamewouldyouprefertouse
19
10:28:08 |\n| 20 | Q. -- correct?
10:25: 16 | 20 going forward to refer to Mr. Qiang Guo's father?
10:28: 12 |\n| 21 | A. I don't have a license at all by then.
10:25: 16 | 21
A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
10:28:18 |\n| 22 | Q. Next question.
10:25: 19 | 22
Q. Very good.
10:28:19 |\n| 23 | Is it true that in your capacity as
10:25 :29 | 23
A. That is the debtor; right? That is the
10:28:20 |\n| | 24 president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited you
10:25:36
25 serve as an administrator for the interests of
10:25:42 | 24 debtor's name.
10:28:21
25
Am I right.
10:28:23 |\n\n14 (Pages 50 - 53)\n\n| Q. You are right. That is correct. | Q. Is that your signature on the top right of |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 10:28:24 | 10:31: 15 |\n| 2
A. Let's go with it, yeah. Uh-huh.
10:28:25 | 2 Exhibit 4?
10:31:19 |\n| 3
Q. So would you like Ms. Johnston to repeat the 10:28:27 | 3
A. Sorry, sir.
10:31:25 |\n| 4 question in Chinese for you, ma'am?
10:28:30 | 4
You mean Exhibit 4; right?
10:31:26 |\n| A. Yes, please. | Q. Yes, sir -- or excuse me. Yes, ma'am. |\n| 10:28:32 | 10:31 :28 |\n| 5 | 5 |\n| Q. Okay. | A. Okay. I opened the wrong one. |\n| 10:28:34 | 10:31:33 |\n| 6 | 6 |\n| THE INTERPRETER: Mr. Harbach, can you just 10:28:37
7 | 7
Q. Okay.
10:31:35 |\n| 8 repeat the question one more time, please.
10:28:39 | A. So let me go back.
10:31 :35
8 |\n| 9
MR. HARBACH: Sure. No problem.
10:28:42 | 9
Exhibit 4, you mean the director and officer 10:31:37 |\n| THE INTERPRETER: Just so you know, the
10:28:46
10 | 10 register?
10:31:40 |\n| 11 interpreter does not speak Cantonese; so I will just 10:28:48 | Q. No. No. No.
10:31:41
11 |\n| 12 re- -- I will just say the name the way you pronounce 10:28:53 | 12
A. Okay. That's --
10:31:44 |\n| 13 it instead of saying the Mandarin name.
10:28:54 | Q. This is the one that says exhibit, and then
10:31:44
13 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Okay. That -- that's fine.
10:28:57
14 | 14 it has the number next to it, four.
10:31:47 |\n| 15 And, obviously, I speak neither; so I will rely on
10:28:59 | 15
A. Okay.
10:31:50 |\n| 16 you all.
10:29:02 | 16
Q. So when you open that up, the first page
10:31:51 |\n| 17 BY MR. HARBACH: | 17 says affidavit of Yan Ping Wang. |\n| 10:29:03 | 10 :31: 54 |\n| Q. So here is the question. | Let me know if you have the right document. |\n| 10:29:03 | 18 |\n| 18 | 10:31:58 |\n| In your capacity as president of | 19 |\n| 19 | A. Yes. |\n| 10:29:05 | 10:32:01 |\n| 20 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, isn't it true that
10:29:07 | 20
Q. Good.
10:32:01 |\n| 21 you serve as an administrator for the interests of | Now go to the last page of it, please. That 10:32:02 |\n| 10:29: 12 | 21 |\n| 22 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family? | 22 is page three. |\n| 10:29: 18 | 10:32:05 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Objection. | 23 |\n| 10:29:23 | A. (Witness complies.) |\n| 23 | 10:32:06 |\n| 24 | 24 |\n| You may answer. | Yes. |\n| 10:29:25 | 10:32:06 |\n| THE WITNESS: (Through Interpreter) Well, | 25 |\n| 10:29:59 | Q. My question to you is is that signature on |\n| 25 | 10:32:07 |\n| Page 54 | Page 56 |\n| 1 first of all, I don't know what you meant by the word 10:30:07 | 1 the top right-hand corner of page three of Exhibit 4
10:32:12 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 2 administrator. | 2 yours? |\n| 10:30:10 | 10:32: 16 |\n| 3 | 3 |\n| And, second, I worked for Mr. Qiang Guo. | A. Yes. |\n| 10:30: 11 | 10:32:17 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Is that the end of the answer, 10:30:22
4 | Q. Okay. Nowlet'sgobacktopageone.
4
10:32:18 |\n| 5 Ms. Johnston?
10:30:23 | 5
A. (Witness complies.)
10:32:21 |\n| THE INTERPRETER: Yes, it was. | 6 |\n| 10:30:25 | Q. And you can see that this is an affidavit |\n| 6 | 10:32:21 |\n| 7
MR. HARBACH: Okay. Thank you.
10:30:27 | 7 that you signed and that was filed in the
10:32:26 |\n| 8 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:30:28 | 8 Supreme Court of the State of New York on May 16th of 10:32:28 |\n| Q. Let's take a look now at Exhibit 4.
10:30:28
9 | 9 2018.
10:32:32 |\n| 10 | Do you see that? |\n| (Deposition Exhibit Number 4 | 10:32:34 |\n| 10:30:31 | 10 |\n| was marked for identification.) | A. Yes. |\n| 10:30:35 | 10:32:35 |\n| 11 | 11 |\n| 12 | 12 |\n| THE WITNESS: (Witness complies.) | Q. Okay. Now, I also note that on page |\n| 10:30:35 | 10:32:40 |\n| 13 BY MR. HARBACH: | 13 three -- sorry to keep jerking you around. |\n| 10:30:57 | 10:32:43 |\n| 14 | 14 |\n| Q. Okay. I have got it, Ms. Wang. I hope you | Could you please go to page three. |\n| 10:30:57 | 10:32:47 |\n| 15 do too.
10:31:00 | A. The last page; right?
10:32:50
15 |\n| 16 | Q. Yes, ma'am. |\n| A. (InEnglish) Yes. | 16 |\n| 10:31:01 | 10:32:54 |\n| 17 | 17 |\n| I am here. | A. (Witness complies.) |\n| 10:31:03 | 10:32:55 |\n| 18 | Yes. |\n| Q. Very good. | 10:32:55 |\n| 10:31:04 | 18 |\n| Open up Exhibit 4, please. | I am here. |\n| 10:31:05 | 10:32:56 |\n| 19 | 19 |\n| 20 | 20 |\n| A. Yes. | Q. You will see above the notary public's |\n| 10:31:07 | 10:32:56 |\n| Q. And the first thing I want to do is go to
10:31:07
21 | 21 signature that it indicates that it was sworn on
10:32:59 |\n| 22 the very last page. | 22 May 15th of 2018. |\n| 10:31: 10 | 10:33:02 |\n| 23 | Do you see that there? |\n| A. (Witness complies.) | 10:33:04 |\n| 10:31: 12 | 23 |\n| 24 | 24 |\n| Q. Areyouthere? | A. Yes. |\n| 10:31:14 | 10:33:05 |\n| 25 | 25 |\n| A. Yes. | Q. Okay. Now go back to page one for me. |\n| 10:31:15 | 10:33:08 |\n\n15 (Pages 54 - 57)\n\n| 1
A. (Witness complies.)
10:33:11 | 1 information as best of my capacity and as best of my
10: 36: 11 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
Q. Tell me when you are there.
10:33: 14 | 2 knowledge --
10:36: 15 |\n| 3
A. Yes.
10:33:17 | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:36: 16 |\n| Q. The very first sentence of your dep- --
10:33: 18
4 | Q. Okay.
10:36:16
4 |\n| 5 excuse me. Of this affidavit says:
10:33:23 | A. -- is what I can say.
10:36: 16
5 |\n| \"I am the president of Golden Spring
10:33:26
6 | Q. Okay.
10:36:18
6 |\n| 7
(New York) Limited, and in that capacity
10:33:28 | 7
A. I don't know what you are looking for.
10:36:18 |\n| 8
serve as an administrator for the interests
10:33:32 | 8 I mean, if you are looking for words in the
10:36:20 |\n| of the defendant sued herein as Kwok Ho
10:33:35
9 | 9 dictionary, I don't know what you are looking for.
10:36:22 |\n| Wan\"--
10:33:35
10 | Q. I'm asking you if you know what an affidavit 10:36:24
10 |\n| II
And then there follows several akas.
10:33:42 | 11 is.
10:36:27 |\n| | |\n| -- \"and his family,\" period.
10:33:46
12 | A. Affidavit is a legal paperwork.
10:36:28
12 |\n| Do you see that sentence?
10:33:48
13 | Q. Okay. And do you understand that an
10:36:30
13 |\n| 14
A. Yes.
10:33:52 | 14 affidavit is a piece of legal paperwork where
10:36:34 |\n| Q. So I'll ask you to tell me what being an
10:33:52
15 | 15 a person provides testimony that is sworn under oath? 10:36:38 |\n| 16 administrator of the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and 10:34:00 | 16
A. Yes.
10:36:46 |\n| 17 his family means, because they are your words.
10:34: 12 | 17
Q. Okay. And you told me a moment ago you --
10:36:47 |\n| 18
A. This is drafted by the attorneys also; so in 10:34:16 | 18 actually, I want to be fair.
10:36:51 |\n| 19 my understanding, an administrator, these words --
10:34:20 | 19
You don't -- you don't know how many
10:36:54 |\n| 20 as, again, I am not native speaker at all -- means
10:34:25 | 20 affidavits you may have done in the past; is that
10:36:56 |\n| 21 that I work for Golden Spring and take instruction
10:34:30 | 21 correct?
10:37:01 |\n| 22 from owner of Golden Spring to work out the
10:34:32 | 22
A. I don't recall. Like, why should I recall
10:37:02 |\n| 23 assignment and task Golden Spring request me to do is 10:34:39 | 23 how many of them? I mean --
10:37:08 |\n| 24 what I mean in here.
10:34:43 | 24
Q. I'm not -- I'm not suggesting --
10:37:10 |\n| Q. How many affidavits do you think you have
10:34:44
25 | 25
A. I don't work in a law firm; right?
10:37: 12 |\n| Page 58 | Page 60 |\n| | |\n| | Q. I'mnot--
I |\n| I signed in your lifetime?
10:34:48 | 10:37:14 |\n| 2
A. I don't recall.
10:34:50 | A. So why should I recall?
10:37: 14
2 |\n| 3
Q. More than five?
10:34:52 | 3
Q. I'm not suggesting whether you should or you 10:37: 16 |\n| 4
A. I don't recall.
10:34:55 | 4 shouldn't. All I'm asking is whether you know how
10:37:19 |\n| 5
Q. More than twenty-five?
10:34:57 | 5 many affidavits you have prepared in your life.
10:37:23 |\n| 6
A. I don't recall.
10:34:59 | 6
And I understood your answer to be that you
10:37:26 |\n| 7
Q. Maybe more than fifty?
10:35:01 | 7 do not know; is that right?
10:37:29 |\n| 8
A. I don't recall.
10:35:04 | 8
A. Sir, now you are asking in my life. I don't 10:37:31 |\n| 9
Q. Do you know what -- what an affidavit is?
10:35:08 | 9 recall. That is my answer.
10:37:36 |\n| 10
A. What do you mean, do I know what affidavit
10:35: 12 | 10
Q. Okay. That is fine. That is all I'm
10:37:38 |\n| II is?
10:35:17 | 11 asking.
10:37:41 |\n| Q. Do you know what an affidavit is? Do you
10:35: 18
12 | You have told me that you understand an
10:37:43
12 |\n| 13 know what the word means?
10:35:20 | 13 affidavit to be a legal document where a person
10:37:46 |\n| 14
A. I don't understand your question.
10:35:23 | 14 provides testimony that is sworn under oath; is that
10:37:51 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, can you please
10:35:30
15 | 15 right?
10:37:55 |\n| 16 translate.
10:35:33 | 16
A. The sentence which you read me through, this 10:37:58 |\n| Do you know what an affidavit is?
10:35:34
17 | 17 was I signed back to 2018. And then now as
10:38:01 |\n| THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)
10:35:47
18 | 18 April 2020 [sic] of course I couldn't remember that,
10:38:08 |\n| 19
THE WITNESS: So I don't understand your
10:35:47 | 19 like, four years ago almost.
10:38:15 |\n| 20 question. All I have done in that I work for
10:35:58 | Q. But--
20
10:38:17 |\n| 21 GoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited. Iamnotnative
10:36:01 | 21
A. But I do know that that is a legal
10:38:17 |\n| 22 speaker. I am definitely not legal person either;
10:36:01 | 22 paperwork. I gave all my truthful and honest
10:38: 19 |\n| 23 right?
10:36:01 | 23 information in that paperwork. This I am testifying
10:38:22 |\n| 24
So like, I just to be here, and then what
10:36:06 | 24 right now.
10:38:25 |\n| 25 being before there to tell the legal all the truthful 10:36:07 | 25
Q. Okay. And so when you signed this affidavit 10:38:26 |\n\n16 (Pages 58 - 61)\n\n| | 1 in May of 2018, it was truthful when you signed it;
10:38:29 | 1 is not my native language, yes. I signed affidavit
10:41:45 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 is that correct?
10:38:39 | 2 back to 2018. That is a truthful information as best 10:41:50 |\n| 3 | A. When I signed and I gave all my truthful
10:38:41 | 3 ofmy knowledge. By then, when I signed my name in
10:41:53 |\n| | 4 information.
10:38:47 | 4 there, yes.
10:41:57 |\n| 5 | Q. Was this --this affidavit that is Exhibit 4 10:38:49 | I'm testifying right now to explain and let
10:41:58
5 |\n| | 6 that we're looking at, was it true when you signed it 10:38:53 | 6 you know all of those yes and no, that is my truthful 10:42:02 |\n| | 7 and swore to it?
10:38:58 | 7 testimony by now, yes. This is all my yes and no
10:42:06 |\n| 8 | A. I signed affidavit back to 2018 of this
10:39:03 | 8 answer, sir.
10:42: 10 |\n| | 9 one. That is my best and truthful knowledge and
10:39:07 | Q. At the time that you signed Exhibit 4, did
10:42:11
9 |\n| | 10 information I gave.
10:39: 12 | 10 you understand it?
10:42:14 |\n| 11 | Q. Is that a \"yes\"?
10:39:14 | A. Understand what?
10:42:18
11 |\n| 12 | A. I answered your question, sir, already.
10:39: 17 | Q. Did you understand what you were signing?
12
10:42: 19 |\n| 13 | Q. Well, I'm going to ask it one more time.
10:39:20 | A. The affidavit.
10:42:22
13 |\n| | 14 I think you may have, but I want to ask it one more
10:39:24 | 14
Q. Were you able to read it and understand what 10:42:24 |\n| | 15 time just to make sure we are clear.
10:39:28 | 15 it said?
10:42:27 |\n| 16 | Was this affidavit-- that is, Exhibit 4 --
10:39:30 | A. I don't understand your question. What --
10:42:31
16 |\n| | 17 true at the time that you signed it?
10:39:32 | 17 you are asking my recollection back to 2018?
10:42:35 |\n| 18 | A. What do you mean, at the time when I signed
10:39:37 | Q. You--
18
10:42:38 |\n| | 19 it? I mean, I signed it as true back in 2018.
10:39:46 | 19
A. I don't recall.
10:42:38 |\n| 20 | Q. Right
10:39:51 | 20
Q. You don't recall whether when you signed
10:42:38 |\n| 21 | And-- and here's the --here's the problem. 10:39:51 | 21 this affidavit you understood what it said?
10:42:41 |\n| | 22 Just a few minutes ago, when I asked you about the
10:39:55 | 22
A. It is four years ago, sir. I don't recall
10:42:46 |\n| | 23 first sentence of Exhibit 4, you said something about 10:39:59 | 23 the details by then.
10:42:49 |\n| | 24 this document being prepared by lawyers and that
10:40:02 | 24
Q. Do you make a habit of signing affidavits
10:42:51 |\n| | 25 English isn't your first language and that -- and so
10:40:06 | 25 under oath when you don't understand what they say --
10:42:55 |\n| | Page 62 | Page 64 |\n| | | |\n| | I that is why I'm asking these questions so that I can
10:40: 12 | I with- -- withdrawn.
10:42:58 |\n| | 2 understand whether what is written on the page here
10 :40: 15 | 2
MR. HARBACH: Scott, you don't have to
10:43:01 |\n| | 3 is your truthful testimony or not.
10:40: 19 | 3 object.
10:43:02 |\n| 4 | A. So
10:40:27 | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:43:03 |\n| 5 | Q. All I can do is ask you -- let me finish my
10:40:29 | Q. Do you recall whether this affidavit was
10:43:04
5 |\n| | 6 question.
10:40:33 | 6 translated for you?
10:43:06 |\n| 7 | I don't know what is in your brain. All
10:40:33 | 7
A. I don't recall. Again, like, it is three or 10:43:07 |\n| | 8 I can do is ask questions. You have told me that you 10:40:36 | 8 four years ago. I don't recall.
10:43:11 |\n| | 9 signed this document. You have told me that you
10:40:39 | 9
Q. When was the last affidavit that you
10:43: 16 |\n| | 10 understand it is an affidavit. You have told me what 10:40:41 | 10 executed, approximately?
10:43:26 |\n| | 11 you understand an affidavit to be.
10:40:45 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
10:43:28
11 |\n| 12 | And so now all I'm asking you is whether
10:40:50 | 12
We -- we have really got to move on, David.
10:43:30 |\n| | 13 this particular affidavit was true when you signed
10:40:53 | 13 This is --
10:43:34 |\n| | 14 it. That is a yes, no, I don't know, or I don't
10:40:59 | 14
MR. HARBACH: Listen, now, Scott. This is
10:43:35 |\n| | 15 remember question.
10:41:06 | 15 nothing personal, obviously. I would love nothing
10:43:38 |\n| 16 | A. This is several questions, sir. I cannot
10:41: 11 | 16 more than to move on, but I'm just trying to get the
10:43:40 |\n| | 17 only answer one yes or one no.
10:41: 14 | 17 witness to adopt what she swore to three years ago.
I 0:43 :44 |\n| 18 | Q. Sure you can. Itisasinglequestion. The 10:41:17 | MR.ROSEN: Allright. Howisthatrelevant 10:43:51
18 |\n| | 19 answer can be either yes, it could beno, it could be 10:41:21 | 19 to the 30(6)(6) deposition topics today?
10:43:53 |\n| | 20 I don't know, or it could be I don't remember.
10:41:25 | 20
MR. HARBACH: Oh, because it is squarely
10:43:56 |\n| 21 | A. The affidavit --
10:41 :32 | 21 within what her job is as president of Golden Spring
10:43:58 |\n| 22 | Q. Do you need me to ask the question one more
10:41 :33 | 22 (New York). That is 100 percent within the scope of 10:44:02 |\n| | 23 time?
10:41:36 | 23 what we're talking about here. She has told us about 10:44:05 |\n| 24 | A. The affidavit, which I signed back to 2018,
I 0:41 :36 | 24 all the titles that she has, and I'm exploring what
10:44:09 |\n\n17 (Pages 62 - 65)\n\n| | 1 her job is what we have read several times, and now
10:44: 16 | 1 (New York), you served as an administrator for the
11 :01 :57 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 she doesn't want to answer that. She doesn't want to 10:44:20 | 2 interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and his family?
11:02:01 |\n| | 3 own that; so I'm going to stop arguing, but it is
10:44:23 | 3
A. Yes.
11:02:07 |\n| | 4 plainly relevant. Plainly relevant.
10:44:27 | As the language read in my affidavit, yes.
11:02:13
4 |\n| 5 | You can instruct her not to answer. You can 10:44:30 | Q. Do you recall what you meant by an
11:02:16
5 |\n| | 6 instruct her not to answer any question that mentions 10:44:33 | 6 administrator for the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan
11:02:45 |\n| | 7 Ho Wan Kwok if you want. But I'm going to stay right 10:44:36 | 7 and his family?
11 :02:49 |\n| | 8 here until I understand what was in this witness'
10:44:39 | 8
A. The language in this affidavit was drafted
11 :02:51 |\n| | 9 head when she signed this affidavit.
10:44:42 | 9 by attorney, and, in my understanding,
11 :02:57 |\n| 10 | MR. ROSEN: Well, I think you have -- you
10:44:44 | 10 Golden Spring -- as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction,
11:03:03 |\n| | 11 have pretty much established on the record that what
10:44:46 | 11 Golden Spring, like, pay Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, like, his
11:03:10 |\n| | 12 you are going for has nothing to do with this DIP
10:44:50 | 12 lifestyle and then et cetera; so that was my
11 :03: 17 |\n| | 13 loan.
10:44:52 | 13 understanding.
11:03 :21 |\n| 14 | So I am going to instruct the witness not to 10:44:52 | Q. That was your understanding of your role?
14
11:03:22 |\n| | 15 answer this question.
10:44:55 | 15 Because that was what my question was about.
11:03:27 |\n| 16 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. I think we should take
10:44:56 | A. My role as president of Golden Spring or
16
11:03:31 |\n| | 17 a little break because, among other things, I need to 10:44:59 | 17 administrator?
11 :03 :35 |\n| | 18 go to the restroom.
10:45:01 | Q. Well, you have stated that as president, you 11:03:36
18 |\n| 19 | So can we please, Mr. Videographer, take ten 10:45:03 | 19 served as an administrator of Mr. Kwok
11:03:42 |\n| | 20 minutes.
10:45:06 | 20 Ho Wan's interests.
11:03:46 |\n| 21 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the
10:45:06 21 | And so I'm asking about whether what you
11:03:50 |\n| | 22 record.
10:45:08 | 22 just described was your role in May of 2018.
11:03:54 |\n| 23 | The time is 10:45.
10:45:08 | A. I am the president of Golden Spring. I took 11 :04:0 I
23 |\n| 24 | (Short recess taken.)
10:45:10 | 24 instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo and served as an
11:04:05 |\n| 25 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
11 :00:21
Page 66 | 25 administrator -- administrator for his father.
11:04:09
Page 68 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | I record.
11 :00:23 | 1
Q. And was that true from the moment you began
11 :04: 13 |\n| 2 | The time is 11 :00 o'clock.
11:00:23 | 2 working at Golden Spring?
11 :04: 17 |\n| | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:00:31 | 3
A. Oh, sir, the moment -- again, you are asking 11:04:21 |\n| 4 | Q. Ms. Wang, before the break I was asking you
11 :00:35 | 4 the time; right?
11:04:25 |\n| | 5 about Exhibit 4, which is an affidavit that you
11:00:37 | Q. Well, I'm asking whether what you just
5
11:04:27 |\n| | 6 signed in May of 2018.
11:00:43 | 6 described as your duties as an administrator, was
11:04:31 |\n| 7 | MR. HARBACH: Scott, I confess, I do not
11:00:48 | 7 that true from the beginning, from when you first
11:04:38 |\n| | 8 recall whether where we left off was with your
11:00:51 | 8 started working at Golden Spring (New York)?
11:04:40 |\n| | 9 instructing the witness not to answer my question--
11:00:54 | 9
A. When I started working for Golden Spring
11 :04:42 |\n| | 10 any more questions about this. And let me -- and let 11:01:00 | 10 (New York), I did take instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo 11:04:52 |\n| | 11 me just -- let me say before you answer that if you
11:01:04 | 11 to -- to serve, as I said, as administrator for his
11:04:54 |\n| | 12 let me answer one or two -- ask one or two more, I'll 11:01:07 | 12 father.
11:05:00 |\n| | 13 move on.
11:01:13 | Q. And so that would have been in the spring of 11 :05 :00
13 |\n| 14 | MR. ROSEN: I appreciate that, and yeah.
11:01:14 | 14 2018, when you started working for Golden Spring
11:05:04 |\n| | 15 Please -- I'll instruct the witness at this time to
11 :01:18 | 15 (New York); is that right?
11:05:07 |\n| | 16 answer the question.
11:01:22 | 16
A. Correct, sir.
11 :05: 10 |\n| 17 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Thank you.
11:01:24 | 17
Q. And how frequently did you communicate with
11:05:11 |\n| | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:01:25 | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo during that time, say the spring of
11:05:16 |\n| 19 | Q. So Ms. Wang, do you still have Exhibit 4 in
11:01:25 | 19 2018?
11:05:22 |\n| | 20 front of you?
11:01:30 | A. I don't recall, but I do believe we -- we
20
11:05:24 |\n| 21 | A. Exhibit4? Yes, sir. Yes.
11:01:32 | 21 talk as needed.
11:05:29 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. So again, reminding you that this
11:01:38 | 22
Q. Okay. Once a day?
11:05:30 |\n| | 23 affidavit was signed in May 2018.
11:01:41 | A. I don't recall.
11:05:35
23 |\n| 24 | My question for you is is it true that in
11:01:45 | 24
Q. Okay. Do you recall whether you talked to
11:05:36 |\n| | 25 May of 2018, as president of Golden Spring
11:01:51
Page 67 | 25 him once a week?
11:05:39
Page 69 |\n\n18 (Pages 66 - 69)\n\n| 1 | A. I don't recall. As I said, we just talk as
11:05 :43 | | 1 Golden Spring (New York) in New York City in 2018,
11:09: 15 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 needed. If, you know, we need to talk, we just talk. 11 :05 :47 | | 2 did you reside in the same location as
11:09:21 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay.
11:05:51 | | 3 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:09:24 |\n| 4 | A. I don't, like, calculate, yeah.
11:05:52 | 4 | A. I lived in New York.
11:09:33 |\n| 5 | Q. No. I understand.
11:05:54 | 5 | Q. Did you reside -- again, I'm not talking
11:09:34 |\n| 6 | And I don't mean to be asking for a precise
11 :05:56 | | 6 aboutnow.
11:09:41 |\n| | 7 calculation. I'm just trying to get a sense of how
11 :05:58 | 7 | I'm talking about in 2018, when you started
11 :09:41 |\n| | 8 often you talked to him.
11:06:02 | | 8 working at Golden Spring (New York), did you reside
11:09:46 |\n| 9 | When you talked to him, meaning
11:06:03 | | 9 in the same dwelling as Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:09:51 |\n| | 10 Mr. Qiang Guo, did you speak by phone? in person?
11:06:06 | 10 | A. Sir, what do you mean by dwelling? Do you
11:10:00 |\n| | 11 a mix?
11:06:12 | | 11 mean--
11: 10:03 |\n| 12 | A. Both.
11:06:15 | 12 | Q. A house.
11:10:03 |\n| 13 | Q. Okay. Hang on one second, please. Sorry
11:06:22 | 13 | A. Is it --
11:10:04 |\n| | 14 for the holdup.
11:06:58 | 14 | Q. Is it a house? an apartment? It doesn't
11:10:05 |\n| 15 | How often did you communicate with
11:07:01 | | 15 matter.
11:10:09 |\n| | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok in the spring of2018 to fulfill your 11:07:07 | 16 | Did you live in the same home as
11: 10:09 |\n| | 17 role, as you have described it?
11:07:13 | | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:10:12 |\n| 18 | A. I don't recall.
11:07:17 | 18 | A. No.
11:10:12 |\n| 19 | Q. Did you ever communicate with him?
11:07: 18 | 19 | Q. Have you ever been to the -- withdrawn.
11:10:19 |\n| 20 | A. Yes.
11:07:23 | 20 | Have you ever lived in the eighteenth floor
11: 10:22 |\n| 21 | We did communicate.
11:07:26 | | 21 apartment of the Sherry-Netherland?
11:10:29 |\n| 22 | Q. And was that in person?
11:07:27 | 22 | A. I visited there, sir.
11:10:33 |\n| 23 | A. Yes.
11 :07:31 | 23 | Q. Fair enough.
11: 10:36 |\n| 24 | In person.
11 :07:33 | 24 | I'm asking whether you have ever resided
11: I 0:36 |\n| 25 | Q. Okay. And how frequently?
11 :07:33 | | 25 there.
11:10:40 |\n| | Page 70 | | Page 72 |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| I | A. I don't recall.
11:07:37 | | A. What do you mean, reside? As in, like,
11: 10:40 |\n| 2 | Q. Okay. More than one a week?
11:07:40 | | 2 my -- my home? No.
11:10:45 |\n| 3 | A. Sir, you are asking back to 2018, when
11:07:45 | 3 | Q. Okay. Have you ever stayed there for--
11:10:47 |\n| | 4 I start work for Golden Spring?
11:07:51 | 4 | MR. HARBACH: And, Scott, this is my last
11:10:52 |\n| 5 | lam.
Q. Yes. Yes, ma'am.
11:07:54 | | 5 one.
11:10:54 |\n| 6 | A. Oh, I don't recall.
11:07:57 | | 6 BY MR. HARBACH:
11: 10:55 |\n| 7 | Q. Okay. Let's see.
11:07:58 | 7 | Q. Haveyoueverstayedthereformorethan
11:10:55 |\n| 8 | Oh, thank you.
MR. HARBACH:
11:08:26 | | 8 a couple of weeks?
11: 10:58 |\n| | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:08:26 | 9 | A. I don't recall.
11: 10:59 |\n| 10 | Q. My colleague reminds me, I meant to ask this 11:08:28 | 10 | Q. Okay. Can we turn now to -- back to
11: 11 :00 |\n| | 11 question.
11:08:32 | | 11 Exhibit I.
11:11:20 |\n| 12 | When you started working at Golden Spring
11:08:32 | 12 | A. (Witness complies.)
11:11:22 |\n| | 13 (New York) in New York City, where did you reside?
11:08:37 | 13 | Q. Tell me when you have got it up, Ms. Wang.
11 :11 :28 |\n| | 14 I don't mean the --the exact address, but where did
11:08:41 | 14 | A. Yes, I am.
11:11:35 |\n| | 15 you reside?
11 :08:45 | 15 | Q. Okay. The cover page, just to help you
11: 11 :36 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. There are security
11:08:47 | | 16 orient yourself, is dated October 11th, 2018, which
11:11:44 |\n| | 17 reasons that Ms. Wang does not want to give
11:08:51 | | 17 was the date of this deposition.
11:11:49 |\n| | 18 a residence address.
11:08:54 | 18 | Okay?
11:11:52 |\n| 19 | Are you talking about a city or -- something 11:08:57 | 19 | A. Yes.
11:11:54 |\n| | 20 as general as a city or are you talking address?
11:09:00 | 20 | Q. All right. And so that is approximately --
11: 11 :54 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH: I'll -- I'll try and ask the
11:09:05 | | 21 I don't know -- six months after you started working
11:12:00 |\n| | 22 question in a way that avoids those concerns, Scott.
11 :09:07 | | 22 at Golden Spring (New York)?
11: 12:03 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN: Thank you.
11:09:11 | 23 | A. And -- yes. Kind of
11:12:11 |\n| | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:09:12 | 24 | Q. You said you started working in the spring
11:12:13 |\n| 25 | Q. Ms. Wang, when you started working at
11:09:12 | | 25 of2018; so approximately six months.
11:12:16 |\n\n19 (Pages 70 - 73)\n\n| 1 | Is that fair?
11:12:19 | 1 was accurate.
11:14:41 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A. Yes.
11: 12:20 | 2
Q. Okay.
11:14:42 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. So let's go to page sixty.
11:12:21 | A. The testimony right now, after I was
11:14:43
3 |\n| 4 | A. (Witness complies.)
11: 12:32 | 11:14:45
4 corrected, is accurate also, sir. |\n| 5 | Q. And, again, looking at the little pages.
11: 12:33 | Q. I see.
11:14:48
5 |\n| | 6 Tell me when you are there.
11: 12:45 | And so the -- the correction concerned his
11: 14:49
6 |\n| 7 | A. Yes.
11: 12:50 | 7 name; right?
11:14:51 |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. The very top of page sixty there is
11: 12:50 | 8
A. Yes.
11:14:52 |\n| | 9 a -- the tail end of a question and then a question
11: 12:54 | Mr. Qiang Guo's name.
11: 14:53
9 |\n| | 10 that begins on line two:
11: 12:57 | Q. Okay.
10
11:14:55 |\n| II | \"QUESTION: Do you know Mileson Kwok?\"
11 :13:00 | A. That is reason why I am insisting calling
11:14:56
11 |\n| 12 | Your answer is:
11:13:04 | 12 him Mr. Qiang Guo; right?
11:15:00 |\n| 13 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:13:05 | 13
So that is the accurate -- you know, his
11:15:00 |\n| 14 | The question:
11:13:06 | 14 official name.
11: 15:04 |\n| 15 | \"QUESTION: Is that Mr. Kwok's son?
11: 13:06 | 15
Q. Understood.
11:15:04 |\n| 16 | \"ANSWER: Yes.
11:13:09 | 16
A. That works better for me, yeah.
11: 15:05 |\n| 17 | \"QUESTION: Have you ever met him in
11:13:11 | 17
MR.HARBACH: Andwithapologiestothe
11:15:07 |\n| 18 | person?
11:13:12 | 18 reporter for interrupting. I'll try to do better.
11: 15: I 0 |\n| 19 | \"ANSWER: Yes.
11:13:13 | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:15:13 |\n| 20 | \"QUESTION: Does he have any role at
11:13:14 | 20
Q. Next question on the deposition transcript
11:15:13 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring?
11:13:17 | 2] IS:
11:15:16 |\n| 22 | \"ANSWER: I don't know.
11:13: 19 | \"QUESTION: Is that Mr. Kwok's son?
22
11:15:17 |\n| 23 | \"QUESTION: You never interacted with
11:13:22 | 23
\"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:15:20 |\n| 24 | him in regard to any Golden Spring business? 11: 13:24 | 24
So there is no question whether it is
11:15:22 |\n| 25 | \"ANSWER: No.\"
11:13:28 | 25 Mileson Kwok or Qiang Guo.
11: 15:25 |\n| | Page 74 | Page 76 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| I | Did I read that correctly?
11: 13:36 | We are talking about Mr. Kwok Ho Wan's son;
11:15:27 |\n| 2 | A. Yes.
11:13:38 | 2 correct?
11:15:34 |\n| 3 | Q. Can you explain-- well, first of all, is
11:13:39 | A. Correct.
11:15:34
3 |\n| | 4 that true?
11: 13:46 | Q. And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has one, and only one,
11:15:35
4 |\n| 5 | A. Well--
11:13:52 | 5 son; correct?
11:15:40 |\n| 6 | Q. Let's go through them-- let's go through
11:13:53 | A. Correct.
11:15:42
6 |\n| | 7 them one by one so we can be crystal clear. First
11: 13:57 | Q. Okay. Next question:
11:15:43
7 |\n| | 8 question:
11: 14:01 | \"QUESTION: Have you ever met him\" --
11:15:47
8 |\n| 9 | \"QUESTION: Do you know Mileson Kwong?\"
11: 14:0 I | 9
Meaning who we're calling Qiang Guo.
11:15:51 |\n| 10 | Was that true in October 11th, 2018, you
11:14:09 | -- ''in person?\"
10
11:15:54 |\n| | II knew Mileson Kwok? Was that true?
11:14:11 | 11: 15:56
11
Your answer was: |\n| 12 | A. I was given a wrong impression back in 2018. 11:14:13 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:15:58
12 |\n| | 13 Like, I was thinking, like, Mileson go with Kwok
11:14:17 | WasthattruethatyouhadmetQiangGuoin 11:16:01
13 |\n| | 14 also. The reason why --
11:14:22 | 14 person as of October 11th, 2018?
11:16:05 |\n| 15 | Q. lam--
11:14:22 | A. Yes.
11:16:07
15 |\n| 16 | A. --lam--
11:14:24 | 16
Q. Okay. Next question:
11:16:07 |\n| 17 | Q. -- going to --
11: 14:24 | 17
\"QUESTION: Does he, Qiang Guo, have any 11:16:17 |\n| 18 | A. -- testifying --
11:14:24 | 18
role at Golden Spring?\"
11:16: 17 |\n| 19 | Q. -- interrupt.
11: 14:24 | 19
Your answer was you don't know.
11:16:19 |\n| 20 | A. -- right now --
11: 14:25 | 20
Now, this is six months after you said you
11: 16:22 |\n| 21 | Q. Yeah.
11:14:25 | 21 started at Golden Spring. Months after what you
11: 16:25 |\n| 22 | A. -- I was corrected by Mr. Qiang Guo.
11:14:27 | 22 claim earlier were conversations with Mr. Qiang Guo
11:16:31 |\n| | 23 He purposely corrected me after -- I forget when. He 11: 14:30 | 23 about your role and duties.
11:16:35 |\n| | 24 corrected me and said that he always go with
11: 14:33
25 Mileson Kwok; so the testimony by then back in 2018
11: 14:37 | 24
So why, six months after you started at
11: 16:39
25 Golden Spring, did you say that you didn't know
11: 16:42 |\n\n20 (Pages 74 - 77)\n\n| 1 whether he had any role?
11:16:46 | 1 frequently-- and that it was -- I believe you said
11: 19:47 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
A. That was after --
11: 16:50 | 2 a mix of by phone and in person.
11: 19: 51 |\n| Q. Isn'tthat--isn'tthatalsotruethatyou 11:16:52
3 | 3
Do you -- does that not count as interaction 11: 19:59 |\n| 4 didnotknow?
11:16:55 | 4 in your mind?
11 :20:02 |\n| A. So sir, you finish your question; so can
11:17:02
5 | 5
A. Interact with him in Golden Spring business. 11:20:03 |\n| 6 I start to answer or you still have more, sir? I'll
11: 17:06 | 6 I mean, him and myself, we're friend also along the
11:20:06 |\n| 7 wait until you finish.
11: 17:09 | 7 way for so many years; so when you ask me five
11:20:11 |\n| 8
Q. You -- thank you for waiting.
11: 17: 11 | 8 minutes ago, I mean, we do, like, meet and talk as
11:20:14 |\n| You can answer if you answer my question.
9
11: 17: 12 | 9 needed. But the question back to 2018, it is asking
11: 20: 18 |\n| The question is is it true that as of
10
11: 17: 15 | 10 about interacted with him in regard to any
11 :20:23 |\n| 11 October 11th, 2018, you did not know whether
11: 17: 19 | 11 Golden Spring business, which my testify was true.
11:20:26 |\n| 12 Qiang Guo had any role at Golden Spring? That is the 11: 17:27 | 12 He was in charge of all the Golden Spring business
11 :20:29 |\n| 13 question.
11:17:30 | 13 back to then. And I know I'm part of Golden Spring,
11:20:32 |\n| 14
A. Back to 2018, I don't know by then in my
11:17:33 | 14 but, really, like, he -- he was the person running
11:20:36 |\n| 15 understanding the role means employee or employees;
11:17:38 | 15 the business.
11:20:39 |\n| 16 so by then I did not know whether he was employee or
11:17:43 | 16
Q. Ms. Wang, isn't it true that, in fact, you
11:20:40 |\n| 17 not. But I do know he is the boss. He is the owner. 11: 17:47 | 17 were not interacting with Qiang Guo, certainly not in 11 :20:46 |\n| 18 I do not know whether he is employee or not because
11: 17:51 | 18 2018,aboutGoldenSpringbusiness? Isn'tthattrue? 11:20:51 |\n| 19 he was majorly handling the Golden Spring majority of 11: 17:54 | 19
A. Can you reframe your question again, sir?
11:20:56 |\n| 20 work by then. I only work and cooperate with him as
11: 18:00 | 20
Q. Isn't it true that in 2018 you, in fact,
11 :21:0 I |\n| 21 neededbackin2018.
11:18:05 | 21 were not interacting with Mr. Qiang Guo at all
11:21:05 |\n| 22
Q. In 2018 you didn't say he was the boss? Six 11: 18:07 | 22 related to anything Golden Spring was doing? Isn't
11:21:10 |\n| 23 months after you claimed to have started working with 11: 18: 13 | 23 that the truth?
11: 21: 14 |\n| 24 him you didn't say he was the boss, did you?
11:18:16 | A. I don't recall. It is too long time ago,
24
11:21:15 |\n| 25
A. I was not asked whether he was the boss or
11: 18: 19 | 25 and this deposition was conducted -- I don't believe
11 :21:21 |\n| Page 78 | Page 80 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I not.
11:18:24 | I Ihadaninterpreterbythen.
11:21:25 |\n| 2
Q. You were asked whether he had any role?
11:18:24 | Q. Isn't it also true that the boss of
2
11:21:27 |\n| 3
A. Any role, in my understanding back to 2018,
11: 18:27 | 3 Golden Spring (New York), when you started working
11:21:30 |\n| 4 as employee.
11: 18:32
5 | 4 there, wasn't Qiang Guo; it was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:21:32 |\n| Q. Okay. How about the next question:
11:18:33 | 5 Isn't that true?
11:21:37 |\n| \"QUESTION: You never interacted with
11:18:37
6 | 6
A. Golden Spring (New York)'s boss is always
11:21:38 |\n| him in regards to any Golden Spring
11:18:39
7 | 7 Mr. Qiang Guo.
11:21:43 |\n| 8
business?\"
11:18:43
9
That was the question you were asked, and
11: 18 :46 | 8
Q. Isn't it true that you have been a long-term 11:21:44
9 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:21:53 |\n| 10 the answer you gave was:
11: 18:48 | 10
A. I have been working for Mr. Qiang Guo,
11:22:00 |\n| \"ANSWER: No.\"
11:18:51
11 | 11 himself, and his family.
11 :22:04 |\n| My question for you right now is is it
11: 18:52
12 | Q. Yeah. I'm-- I'm not asking about
12
11:22:06 |\n| 13 true-- is it true that as of October 11th, 2018, you 11:18:55 | 13 Mr. Qiang Guo. I'll ask the question again.
11 :22:08 |\n| 14 had not interacted with Qiang Guo in regard to any
11:19:01 | 14
Isn't it true that you were a long-term
11:22: 13 |\n| 15 Golden Spring business? Is that true or not?
11: 19:08 | 15 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:22: 18 |\n| A. It is a correct answer because back in 2018, 11: 19: 13
16 | A. I don't believe so. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he
16
11:22:23 |\n| 17 Mr. Qiang Guo, he was the major person running
11: 19: 19 | 17 never pay me or ever pays me or pay me at all.
11:22:25 |\n| 18 Golden Spring; so I didn't understand -- again,
11:19:22 | 18
Q. Does he tell you --
11:22:29 |\n| 19 English not my native language -- what is interacted
11: 19:29 | 19
A. So I always work for Mr. Qiang Guo and his
11:22:31 |\n| 20 with. My understanding, by then he was running the
11:19:33 | |\n| 21 company. I just work for him as he needed. That is
11: 19:35 | 20 business.
11:22:35
Q. DoesMr.HoWanKwokevertellyouwhatto
21
11:22:35 |\n| 22 my understanding; so -- which is correct.
11: 19:38 | 22 do?
11:22:37 |\n| Q. Right
11:19:41
23 | A. What do you mean, ever tell me what to -- if 11:22:38
23 |\n| 24
And you told me five minutes ago that you
11:19:41 | 24 they ask me for help, of course I will offer my help
11 :22:42 |\n| 25 had contact with him -- you didn't remember how
11:19:44 | 25 to him.
11:22:45 |\n\n21 (Pages 78 - 81)\n\n| Q. Does -- does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever give you
11 :22:46 | Q. Okay. And so there is a long answer on page 11 :24:57 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 11 :22:48
2 direction? | 2 forty-eight that goes from line twelve to line
11:25:02 |\n| 3
A He ask for support and help, which I'm
11 :22:49 | 3 twenty-three. And I'm not going to read the whole
11:25:06 |\n| 11:22:55
4 always willmg to do that for him. | 4 thing, but I want to direct your attention to the
11:25:10 |\n| 5
Q. Does he ask -- ever ask you to go get
11:22:57 | 5 second half of that answer. It says:
11 :25: 15 |\n| 6 coffee?
11:23:00 | \"They are arrested and pnt in jail by
11 :25: 19
6 |\n| 7
A I don't recall.
11:23:01 | Chinese Communist party. And a lot of his
11:25:22
7 |\n| 8
What do you mean?
11:23:03 | family member, including his son, his
11:25:26
8 |\n| Q. You don't --you don't recall whether
9
11 :23:05 | daughter, niece, nephew, and his
11:25:28
9 |\n| 10 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to get coffee?
11:23:07 | sister-in-law, brothers, they were all
11:25:32
10 |\n| II
A Sir, I mean, I don't recall. Just, like,
11 :23: 11 | threatened, kidnapped, and put in jail
11 :25:37
11 |\n| 12 why I should recall someone ask me to get coffee:
11 :23:15 | without any reason until now, including all
11 :25:40
12 |\n| 13 right?
11 :23:18 | of his, like, long-term employee, just like
11 :25:43
13 |\n| 14
Q. Well, I don't -- I don't know. Maybe he has 11 :23:19 | me.\"
11:25:47
14 |\n| 15 asked you to get coffee hundreds of times Maybe he 11.23.21 | So you are talking about Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
11:25:50
15 |\n| | 16 here; correct?
11 :25:56 |\n| 16 never has. All I can do is ask the question.
11:23:25 | |\n| Do you recall --
17
11.23 .28 | 17
A. Can I read the entire from sentence twelve
11:25:58 |\n| A I don't recall that
18
11 :23:28 | 18 until twenty-three?
11:26:04 |\n| Q. -- if Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to
19
11 :23:29 | 19
Q. Absolutely. Take your time, read it to
11:26:05 |\n| 20 go get coffee?
11:23:32 | 20 yourself, and let me know when you are finished.
11:26:08 |\n| A I don't recall.
11:23:34
21 | 21
A. Thank you.
11:26: 11 |\n| 22
Q. Okay. What about to translate something for 11 :23:34 | 22
Okay. I finished it, sir.
11:27:12 |\n| 23 him, meaning 11r. Ho Wan Kwok? Have you ever done
11:23:37 | 23
Q. Thank you.
11:27:15 |\n| 24 that for him?
1123:40 | 24
My question is the person who you were
11:27: 15 |\n| A Yes, I did.
11 23:41
25
Page 82 | 25 talking about in this answer, who you refer to as he
11 :27: 18
Page 84 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I
Q. How frequently?
11:23:42 | I and his, is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?
11:27:22 |\n| A I don't recall.
2
11:23:44 | A. And reading from the language, of course,
2
11:27:28 |\n| Q. More than once?
11:23:48
3 | 3 this is by -- by the transcript court recorder.
11 :27:33 |\n| A Yes.
11:23:50
4 | 4 Like, it -- reading from the language, it looks like
11 :27:39 |\n| More than once.
11:23:51
5 | 5 yes. But I am referring to -- as I am starting from
11 :27:43 |\n| Q. Okay. When was the last time you translated 11 :23:52
6 | 6 the Guo family, is not just his immediate family, the 11 :27:47 |\n| 7 something for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:23:55 | 7 entire Guo family.
11:27:52 |\n| A I don't recall.
8
11:23:57 | 8
Q. Yes.
11 :27:53 |\n| Q. Okay. Let's go to --
11 :24:01
9 | And you said on line two:
11:27:54
9 |\n| MR. HARBACH: What is 331? I can't see. Is 11:24:08
10 | 10
\"Mr. Kwok, Miles Kwok, he is number
11:27:56 |\n| 11 that --
11:24:11 | seventh son of the whole family.\"
11:28:06
11 |\n| 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:24:13 | 12
You are talking about the debtor,
11:28:07 |\n| 13
Q. Okay. Let's go to Exhibit 2, please.
11 :24: 13 | 13 Kwok Ho Wan; correct?
11 :28: 10 |\n| A (Witness complies.)
14
11:24:15 | 14
A. Correct.
11:28:12 |\n| Q. And l'll ask you -- do you have Exhibit 2,
15
11:24:23 | Q. Okay. And then you describe all of his
15
11:28:12 |\n| 16 Ms. Wang?
11:24:26 | 16 relatives and the terrible things that happens to
11:28: 16 |\n| 17
A Yes.
11:24:27 | 17 them. And then you say that the people to whom that
11:28:21 |\n| Q. Okay. Can you go, please, to page
18
11:24:27 | 18 happened include all of his, meaning
11 :28:29 |\n| 19 forty-eight.
11 :24:32 | 19 Mr. Kwok Ho Wan -- all of his long-term employee,
11:28:34 |\n| 20
A (Witness complies.)
11:24:34 | 20 just like me; so this is the basis for my question
11 :28:41 |\n| Q. Tell me when you are there.
11:24:46
21 | 21 five minutes ago.
11:28:49 |\n| 22
A I'm working on it, sir. Forty-eight.
11 :24: 50 | 22
Isn't it true that you are a long-term
11 :28:51 |\n| 23
Q. Yes, ma'am.
11:24:53 | 23 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? Is that true or not?
11:28:55 |\n| 24
A Yes.
11:24:56 | 24
A. I am a long-term employee for the Guo
11:29:01 |\n| 25
I am here.
11:24:56 | 25 family. I mean, I didn't remember clearly what was
11 :29:09 |\n\n22 (Pages 82 - 85)\n\n| | 1 recorded in here. Like, obviously, I was never in
11 :29: 12 | | So it is not Exhibit 2? You want me to go
11 :32:23 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 jail. I am under threatened, but I was not kidnapped 11:29: 17 | | 2 back to Exhibit I, sir; right?
11 :32:26 |\n| | 3 and in jail. I think it is still blamed to my broken 11:29:21 | 3 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
11:32:29 |\n| | 4 English back there. When I say long-term employee,
11:29:27 | 4 | A. (Witness complies.)
11 :32:32 |\n| | 5 my real -- my meaning as the Guo family. I am
11:29:30 | 5 | I'm here.
11 :32:33 |\n| | 6 a long-term employee of Guo family.
11:29:32 | 6 | Q. Okay. Thank you.
11:32:34 |\n| 7 | Q. Who?
11:29:36 | 7 | Now, could you please scroll forward on the
11:32:35 |\n| 8 | A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he never hired me by
11 :29:37 | | 8 small pages to page forty-six.
11:32:38 |\n| | 9 himself.
11:29:43 | 9 | A. (Witness complies.)
11 :32:42 |\n| 10 | Q. Well, who -- who -- first, since you brought 11:29:43 | 10 | Yes.
11:32:52 |\n| | 11 it up, who was the person who hired you to work for
11 :29:45 | 11 | Q. Okay. Very good.
11:32:53 |\n| | 12 the Guo family?
11 :29:49 | 12 | Now, on this subject of what administrator
11:32:54 |\n| 13 | A. It was a company. It was a company called
11:29:51 | | 13 means, if you'll look down at line twenty of page
11:32: 59 |\n| | 14 Pangu, P-a-n-g-u. Beijing Pangu.
11 :29: 53 | | 14 forty-six, you'll see a question:
11 :33:06 |\n| | | | \"QUESTION: I'maskingyouwhetheror |\n| 15 | Q. Yeah.
11:29:58 | 15 | 11:33:11 |\n| 16 | And who was the boss of Beijing Pangu when
11:29:59 | 16 | not you serve as an administrator for
11: 33: 12 |\n| | 17 you were hired to work for the Guo family?
11:30:03 | 17 | Mr. Kwok's\" --
11:33:17 |\n| 18 | A. You mean boss, like the owner?
11:30:07 | 18 | That is Ho Wan Kwok-- for his interests.
11 :33: 18 |\n| 19 | Q. Well, you know, you can ascribe whatever
11 :30: 11 | | 19 And your answer was:
11:33:22 |\n| | 20 meaning you want to boss, Ms. Wang, but you seem to
11 :30: 14 | 20 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:33:24 |\n| | 21 understand that Qiang Guo is the boss of
11:30: 17 | 21 | And then you were asked:
11 :33 :25 |\n| | 22 Golden Spring; so you tell me.
11:30:19 | 22 | \"QUESTION: What does that mean?\"
11:33:27 |\n| 23 | A. Oh, understand.
11:30:21 | 23 | And you said:
11 :33:30 |\n| 24 | So Beijing Pangu was owned by the Guo
11 :30:22 | 24 | \"ANSWER: Translator,\" comma,
11:33:31 |\n| | 25 families.
11 :30:28
Page 86 | 25 | 11:33:33
\"assistant.\"
Page 88 |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| I | Q. Okay. So who was it --
11:30:29 | I | Do you see that there?
11 :33:36 |\n| 2 | MR. HARBACH: And -- and, Scott, I won't
11:30:32 | 2 | A. Yes.
11 :33:37 |\n| | 3 stay here long, but she brought it up.
11:30:35 | 3 | Q. Now, you have already told us that you --
11 :33:38 |\n| | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:30:37 | | 4 you have, in fact, done some translation for
11:33:41 |\n| 5 | Q. Ms. Wang, who was it who told you at the
11:30:38 | | 5 Mr. Kwok-- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; right?
11:33:45 |\n| | 6 very beginning -- when you first started working for
11:30:41 | 6 | A. I translate for him -- translated for him,
11 :33:48 |\n| | 7 the Guo family, who was it who told you you were
11 :30:44 | | 7 yes.
11:33:52 |\n| | 8 hired? Which person?
11:30:47 | 8 | Q. Yes.
11 :33:53 |\n| 9 | A. I was advised by the HR department, which
11:30:49 | 9 | And if--you also said-- it also says that 11:33:53 |\n| | 10 I couldn't recall. That was back in 20- -- 2008.
11:30:57 | | 10 you were his assistant.
11:34:00 |\n| | 11 I couldn't recall. But I was informed by the HR
11 :31 :02 | 11 | Is that true?
11:34:01 |\n| | 12 department! was hired.
11:31:06 | 12 | A. I mean that I -- I testified as an
11:34:03 |\n| 13 | Q. I'm going to apologize for rewinding just
11 :31:07 | | 13 administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and I help him as
11:34:09 |\n| | 14 for a moment back to an earlier topic. I'll try and
11:31:19 | | 14 per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, including, like,
11 :34: 13 |\n| | 15 make this clear and efficient.
11:31:24 | | 15 help him to translate, make him understand, include,
11 :34: 17 |\n| 16 | In Exhibit 4, which is your affidavit, you
11: 31:32 | | 16 like, assist as he needs -- right? -- to support him. 11 :34:22 |\n| | 17 recall that -- that I asked you several questions
11:31:46 | | 17 It does not mean I have -- I have a title called
11:34:27 |\n| | 18 about what being an administrator for
11:31:49 | | 18 assistant; so if that is what you are looking for.
11:34:30 |\n| | 19 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests meant? You with me?
11:31:52 | 19 | Q. Well--
11:34:32 |\n| 20 | A. Yes.
11 :31:58 | 20 | A. My meaning was I help him to understand as
11 :34:33 |\n| 21 | Q. Okay. So the reason I'm coming back to this 11:31:58 | | 21 to language and support him as he needed as his son's 11:34:36 |\n| | 22 is because I neglected to point something else out to 11 :32:02 | | 22 instruction.
11:34:40 |\n| | 23 you. And it is Exhibit I; so could you turn to
11:32:07 | 23 | Q. Okay. And so what does that mean, other
11:34:41 |\n| 25 | 24 Exhibit I, please.
11:32:15
A. (Witness complies.)
11:32:17 | | 24 than the translation work, when you say that assisted 11 :34:43
25 means support him as needed? What sorts of things
11:34:47 |\n\n23 (Pages 86 - 89)\n\n| | 1 didyoudoforhimbackin2018?
11:34:51 | 1
A. I don't understand, sir. I mean, capacity,
11:37:54 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. Could-- can you
11:34:57 | 2 I am available. I am here. I offer my support as
11:38:02 |\n| | 3 clarify, when you use the word you, are you referring 11 :34:59 | 3 Mr. Qiang Guo requested me to do. That is my
11:38:05 |\n| | 4 to Golden Spring, or are you referring to the witness 11:35:01 | 4 understanding about capacity. If that is the
11 :38:08 |\n| | 5 personally?
11:35:04 | 5 capacity you are talking, that is the same, yes.
11 :38: 10 |\n| 6 | MR. HARBACH: That's fair, Scott.
11:35:06 | Q. Well,Ihearyou.
6
11:38:13 |\n| 7 | I believe when -- when she was deposed in
11:35:08 | 7
All I'm trying to confirm is that that was
11:38:15 |\n| | 8 2018, she was testifying in both her capacity as
11:35:11 | 8 what you were supposed to do, according to you, as
11:38: 19 |\n| | 9 a representative of Golden Spring and in her personal 11 :35: 16 | 9 president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was
11:38:23 |\n| | 10 capacity; so she is going to have to clarify that for 11 :35:20 | 10 translate for Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and cater to his
11:38:30 |\n| | 11 me.
11:35:24 | 11 personal needs; is that right? Is that what you are
11:38:34 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN: You can answer.
11:35:26 | 12 saying?
11 :38:38 |\n| 13 | THE WITNESS: I don't recall.
11:35:29 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
11:38:39
13 |\n| | 14 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:35:29 | 14
You -- you can answer.
11:38:40 |\n| IS | Q. Okay. And in any case, your role as an
11 :35:31 | 15
THE WITNESS: Let me repeat again.
11:38:44 |\n| | 16 administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests, that,
11 :35:35 | My capacity as president of Golden Spring
16
11:38:46 |\n| | 17 according to you, was in your capacity as president
11:35:42 | 17 (New York) is to work as per the owner of company
11 :38:49 |\n| | 18 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; correct? | |\n| | 11:35:46 | 18 requesting needs to me, including assist his father,
11:38:55 |\n| 19 | A. I was requested by Mr. Qiang Guo to help
11:35:52 | 19 translate for his father, and that including here I'm 11:38:58 |\n| | 20 backin2018;thatiscorrect.
11:35:57 | 20 being deposed today; right?
11:39:02 |\n| 21 | Q. Okay. Well, I want to make sure you
11:36:01 | And sign the affidavit. Including a lot of 11 :39:05
21 |\n| | 22 understand my question because since Mr. Rosen
11 :36:04 | 22 things, I mean, if! may say, not only as you just
11:39:08 |\n| | 23 helpfully raised capacity, I want to make sure we get 11 :36:07 | 23 tried to describe me as assistant or translator, if
11 :39: 12 |\n| | 24 this correct.
11:36:11 | 24 that is helpful to you, sir.
11:39:17 |\n| 25 | Okay?
11:36:12
Page 90 | 25 Ill
Page 92 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| I | So bearing in mind that we are talking about 11 :36: 13 | I BY MR. HARBACH:
11:39: 18 |\n| | 2 what being an administrator for Mr. Ho Wan K wok's
11:36:18 | 2
Q. Well, translator and assistant, again,
11:39:18 |\n| | 3 interests means -- that is what we're talking
11 :36:23 | 3 Ms. Wang, those were your words, not mine. I just
11:39:22 |\n| | 4 about -- I'm going to direct you back to Exhibit 1 --
11 :36:26 | 4 read them to you from a transcript. And so all I'm
11:39:25 |\n| | 5 correction. Exhibit 4 -- sorry.
11 :36:31 | 5 doing is trying to explore what your job as president 11:39:28 |\n| 6 | A. So Exhibit 4, sir; right? Which one are we
11 :36:36 | 6 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was. And you
11 :39:31 |\n| | 7 talking about? Four?
11:36:41 | 7 have -- you have explained part of that to us,
11 :39:34 |\n| 8 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
11:36:42 | 8 I think. And I'm just trying to understand what
11:39:38 |\n| 9 | The number four.
11:36:46 | 9 assistant means.
11:39:45 |\n| 10 | A. I'mhere.
11 :36:48 | 10
Besides being a translator, can you tell me
11:39:53 |\n| 11 | Q. And this affidavit, which you have already
11:36:49 | 11 any more about that?
11:39:57 |\n| | 12 told us you signed and swore to as being true and
11:36:53 | 12
A. About what, sir?
11:39:58 |\n| | 13 correct, states that you're serving as an
11:36:57 | Q. About what you meant when you said you were
11:39:59
13 |\n| | 14 administrator for the interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
11:37:02 | 14 Kwok Ho Wan's assistant.
11:40:04 |\n| | 15 and his family was in your capacity as president of
11 :37:07 | A. That is what I -- that is -- that was not,
11:40:09
15 |\n| | 16 Golden Spring (New York) Limited: isn't that correct? 11:37:14 | 16 I mean, in my language. I mean, still I don't --
11:40: 13 |\n| 17 | A. I was hired by Golden Spring (New York), and 11 :37:23 | 17 I don't have this as my native language when I named
11 :40: 19 |\n| | 18 I take instruction from the owner of Golden Spring
11 :37:28 | 18 that, which means I offered that support and service. 11 :40:23 |\n| | 19 (New York). And I was available to support his
11 :37:32 | 19 I don't have a title called translator or assistant.
11 :40:26 |\n| | 20 family, including his father. That is what the
11:37:36 | 20 Obviously--
11:40:31 |\n| | 21 capacity, to me, means in here.
11:37:40 | Q. Which--
11:40:31
21 |\n| 22 | Q. And -- and what you just described,
11 :37:43 | 22
A. -- I don't have it, yeah; so I offered that
11 :40:32 |\n| | 23 according to you, was in your capacity as president
11:37:45 | 23 support.
11 :40:33 |\n| | 24 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; isn't that
11:37:50
25 right?
11:37:54 | 24
Q. Okay.
11 :40:33
A. This is what I'm meaning, if that is
25
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11:40:37 | 1 the lifestyle -- I mean, take care of his father.
11:43:10 |\n|----------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
Q. Got it.
11 :40:37 | 2
Q. When did he give you that instruction?
11:43:13 |\n| Tell me what -- now, what you just meant
11 :40:38
3 | A. Oh, I don't recall. I should -- from long
11 :43: 16
3 |\n| 4 right now when you said support.
11:40:40 | 4 time ago. I mean, son take care of the father.
11:43:22 |\n| Besides translation, what else?
11:40:42
5 | 5 I mean, that is kind of natural to me, so
11:43:25 |\n| A. For example, I am being deposed right now in 11 :40:44
6 | Q. Well, I'm not going to quarrel with -- with
11 :43:28
6 |\n| 7 this bankruptcy.
11:40:51 | 7 whether it is natural or not.
11:43:32 |\n| Q. Okay.
8
11:40:53 | 8
My only question is you just said that --
11:43:34 |\n| A. This is as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction;
11:40:53
9 | 9 that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you the instruction that you
11:43:39 |\n| 10 right?
11:40:57 | 10 just recited.
11:43:43 |\n| And so
11:40:57
11 | And my question is when? You said a long
11:43:45
11 |\n| 12
Q. Is your testimony -- I don't think this is
11 :40:58 | 12 time ago? How long ago?
11:43:48 |\n| 13 what you are saying, but I'll ask it anyway because
11 :41 :00 | 13
A. I don't recall.
11:43:51 |\n| 14 it is a fair inference from your words.
11:41:03 | Q. More than a month ago?
14
11:43:52 |\n| Is your testimony today in support of
11 :41:06
15 | A. It should be longerthanmorethanamonth.
11:43:57
15 |\n| 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:41:08 | 16
Q. Okay. Had he given you that instruction by
11 :44:00 |\n| 17
MR. ROSEN: Objection.
11:41:11 | 17 the time of your deposition in October of2018?
11:44:03 |\n| You can answer that.
11 :41:14
18 | A. I don't recall.
11:44:08
18 |\n| 19
THE WITNESS: I am testimony -- I am testify 11:41: 15 | 19
Q. Had he given you that instruction by the
11:44:08 |\n| 20 today for a bankruptcy like a-- I believe the topic
11:41:19 | 20 time of your trial testimony in May of2019?
11:44:12 |\n| 21 is about DIP loan; right?
11:41:24 | A. I don't recall.
11:44:17
21 |\n| 22 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:41:27 | 22
Q. Isn't it possible?
11:44:18 |\n| 23
Q. And I would love to get there, but we --
11 :41:27 | 23
A. I don't recall.
11:44:23 |\n| 24 we're -- well, let me just ask one more time.
11:41:29 | 24
Q. Well, did he give you that instruction
11:44:24 |\n| I understand that you are not -- you are
11 :41:32
25 | 25 sometime in 2020?
11:44:33 |\n| Page 94 | Page 96 |\n| I saying that assistant was not your title.
11:41:36 | I
A. I really don't recall.
11:44:35 |\n| 2 I understand that. I understand that your title was
11 :41 :39 | Q. How long has Golden Spring (New York) been
11:44:40
2 |\n| 3 all those titles I recited several times now at
11:41:42 | 3 paying for Mr. Kwok's lifestyle, as you just said?
11:44:57 |\n| 4 Golden Spring (New York) Limited. And I also
11 :41 :46 | 4
A. How long? I believe since I was appointed.
11 :45 :03 |\n| 5 understand that according to you, in your capacity as 11:41:50 | 5 I mean, I don't recall clearly. I don't recall. But 11 :45: 13 |\n| 6 president, you served as an administrator of the
11:41:54 | 6 a long time.
11:45:17 |\n| 7 interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and the family.
11:41:58 | 7
Q. Okay. Well, you said two things there. You 11:45:19 |\n| 8
You were asked at a deposition about what
11:42:04 | 8 said you believe since you were appointed and you
11:45:22 |\n| 9 serving as an administrator meant, and you said
11:42:07 | 9 have said you don't recall; so I have -- I'm going to 11 :45:25 |\n| 10 translator and assistant. Now, we all know what
11:42: 12 | 10 have to ask you to tell me which it is.
11:45:29 |\n| 11 a translator is, and that is clear. It is clear that 11:42:18 | A. I don't recall. And I shouldn't speculate
11:45:33
11 |\n| 12 you performed that service for Mr. Kwok.
11:42:21 | 12 or guess because when I was appointed, as
11:45:37 |\n| 13
All I'm trying to understand, Ms. Wang, is
11:42:24 | 13 I testified, like, a couple of minutes ago, which was 11 :45 :42 |\n| 14 what else you did for him, and so far the only thing
11 :42:27 | 14 true, Mr. Qiang Guo was operating and running his
11:45:46 |\n| 15 you have said is testify at this deposition.
11:42:31 | 15 business; so that is the reason I correct my answer
11:45:50 |\n| 16
Is there anything else?
11:42:33 | 16 to be I don't recall because I was not paying that by 11:45:53 |\n| 17
A. Yes.
11 :42:37 | 17 myself. I don't recall the answers.
11:45:59 |\n| 18
MR. ROSEN: Objection.
11:42:38 | 18
Q. Understood.
11 :46:00 |\n| 19
You can answer.
11:42:40 | 19
What role did you have -- as president,
11:46:01 |\n| THE WITNESS: Yes.
11:42:42
20 | 20 secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring,
11 :46: 13 |\n| 21 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:42:43 | 21 what role did you have in making sure that
11:46:18 |\n| 22
Q. Okay. What else?
11:42:44 | 22 Mr. Kwok's -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle needs were
11:46:24 |\n| A. For example, Mr. Qiang Guo, obviously, he
11:42:47
23 | 23 paid for?
11: 46 :29 |\n| 24 instructed Golden Spring to pay his father's, like,
11 :42:54 | 24
A. Sorry, sir.
11:46:31 |\n| 25 food, clothes, and, like, including this -- they call 11 :43:01 | |\n| Page 95 | 25
Can you please repeat your question?
11 :46:33
Page 97 |\n\n25 (Pages 94 - 97)\n\n| 1 | 1 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| Q. Yes, ma'am. | Q. Who do you receive those from? |\n| 11:46:35 | 11:50:31 |\n| 2 | A. Which bill you were talking about, sir? |\n| As president, secretary, treasurer, and | 11 :50:33 |\n| 11:46:36 | 2 |\n| 3 director of Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what
11:46:42 | Q. Any of the above.
3
11 :50:38 |\n| 4 role did you have in ensuring that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's
11:46:47 | A. I mean, some of them, they go through from
11:50:41
4 |\n| 5 lifestyle needs were paid for? | 5 the card. Some of them we received it from the -- |\n| 11:46:53 | 11 :50:45 |\n| A. What role I ensured with? I mean, sorry.
11 :46:55
6 | 6 the vendor.
11:50:48 |\n| 7 | Q. Okay. How many of those bills do you |\n| That's -- that's the question you were | 7 |\n| 11:47:05 | 11:50:50 |\n| 8 asking for; right? | 8 receive from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok directly? |\n| 11 :47:06 | 11:50:56 |\n| Q. Yes, ma'am. | A. Directly? I don't recall. |\n| 11:47:08 | 11 :50:59 |\n| 9 | 9 |\n| And I'll try one more time in English, and | Q. How do you know whether -- any of the |\n| 11:47:08 | 10 |\n| 10 | 11:51:06 |\n| 11 then we might need to use Ms. Johnston. | 11 expenses that you review to take care of |\n| 11:47:11 | 11: 51: 10 |\n| 12
A. Yes, please.
11:47: 15 | 12 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle, how do you know or
11:51:14 |\n| I feel the same.
11:47:16
13 | 13 verify, as you said, whether any of them are actually 11:51:19 |\n| Q. It's okay. I'll try it one more time.
11:47:17
14 | 14 his?
11:51:23 |\n| You have stated that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you | A. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo, he requested |\n| 11:47:21 | 11 :51:25 |\n| 15 | 15 |\n| 16 instruction to take care of his father, I mean, more | 16 Golden Spring to take care of both his parents; so |\n| 11:47:25 | 11:51:32 |\n| 17 orless. You don't remember exactly when he gave you 11:47:35 | 17 I mean, only, like, is -- is clarified, like this is
11 :51:38 |\n| 18 that instruction, but it was a long time ago. | 18 his father's clothes and then we obviously will |\n| 11:47:37 | 11:51:45 |\n| 19
Have I got that right so far?
11:47:41 | 19 verify from that. Like --
11 :51:48 |\n| 20 | Q. And-- |\n| A. Yes. | 20 |\n| 11 :47:43 | 11:51:51 |\n| Q. Okay. And I'm asking now, in your role as | A. -- grocery bill, I think it is more, like, |\n| 11 :47:47 | 11: 51: 52 |\n| 21 | 21 |\n| 22 president, and all those other titles, of | 22 mixed for the mom and that. |\n| 11:48:00 | 11:51:55 |\n| 23 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what did you do to
11 :48:03 23 | Q. Okay. And, number one, how do you know that 11:51:57 |\n| 24 ensure that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his lifestyle needs | 24 it is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's clothing that is being |\n| 11:48:13 | 11:52:01 |\n| 25 were taken care of? Do you understand the question? | 25 purchased? How do you verify that? |\n| 11:48:20 | 11 :52:05 |\n| Page 98 | Page 100 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I | A. I verifying with the vendor directly. |\n| A. I believe so. | 11 :52:07 |\n| 11:48:27 | 1 |\n| Q. Okay. So what is the answer? | Q. And -- huh. |\n| 11:48:29 | 11 :52: 13 |\n| 2 | 2 |\n| 3 | 3 |\n| A. For example, like, I communicate with | So you -- you ask a vendor whether the |\n| 11:48:34 | 11:52:19 |\n| 4 Mr. Qiang Guo about the fund, including this depo. | 4 clothing was purchased by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? |\n| 11:48:42 | 11 :52:22 |\n| 5 He take care of the request and then make sure the
11:48:52 | A. Yeah. Because the man's clothes, the
11:52:27
5 |\n| 6 funds in there to take care of his father. | 6 women's clothes are pretty obvious; right? |\n| 11:49:01 | 11:52:32 |\n| 7 | But I do need to verify, yes. |\n| Q. We're going to -- we're going to talk about | 11:52:35 |\n| 11 :49:04 | 7 |\n| 8 the fund in just a moment. But you mentioned
11:49:10 | Q. Yeah. I get the difference between men's
11:52:38
8 |\n| 9 lifestyle needs earlier, things like clothing, food, | 9 and women's clothes. |\n| 11:49:14 | 11:52:42 |\n| 10 transportation -- basics.
11:49:22 | So is it the case that any -- any -- any
11 :52:44
10 |\n| As president of Golden Spring (New York)
11:49:29
11 | 11 charge that is obviously for men's clothing you
11:52:49 |\n| 12 Limited, were you involved in paying for or providing 11:49:31 | 12 assume is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, and any charge that is for 11:52:53 |\n| 13 those things for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? | 13 women's clothing you assume is for his wife? |\n| 11:49:39 | 11:52:59 |\n| 14 | 14 |\n| A. Yes. | A. I don't assume. I mean, I have to verify |\n| 11 :49:45 | 11:53:04 |\n| Q. Please tell me what you did.
11:49:46
15 | 15 because I need to report back the funds; right? --
11:53:07 |\n| 16
A. Like, I will review the bills and verify --
11: 49: 5 2 | 16 the financials to the owner of the company clearly--
11:53:15 |\n| 17 if there is any need to verify -- and process the
11 :50:03 | 17
Q. Absolutely.
11 :53: 18 |\n| 18 payment in clothing.
11:50:07 | A. -- so I verify.
11 :53: 19
18 |\n| Q. What types of bills? | 19 |\n| 19 | Q. Absolutely. |\n| 11 :50:08 | 11 :53:20 |\n| 20 | 20 |\n| A. Like, clothes. Like, food -- grocery food. | A. So I verify. |\n| 11 :50: 11 | 11 :53:21 |\n| Q. And -- and are these credit card bills or | 21 |\n| 11:50: 19 | Q. Let's -- do you -- do you review any credit |\n| 21 | 11 :53:22 |\n| 22 are they receipts directly from the vendor or what? | 22 card bills as part of that process? |\n| 11 :50:21 | 11:53:25 |\n| A. I believe they are both. | 23 |\n| 11:50:26 | A. Sometimes. |\n| 23 | 11:53:29 |\n| 24 | 24 |\n| Q. Okay. | Q. Okay. And when you re- -- when you review |\n| 11:50:28 | 11:53:30 |\n| 25
A. It is a mixed.
11 :50:29
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11 :53:35
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MR. HARBACH: Sure. Sure.
11:56:19 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 in a hotel. Let's just take that as an example.
11:53:45 | I'm sorry to be cute.
11:56:21
2 |\n| 3 | How do you verify who made the charge?
11:53:48 | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:56:22 |\n| 4 | A. Like, a hotel, you mean; right? For an
11:53:54 | Q. Ms. Wang, can you give us a more precise
11 :56:23
4 |\n| | 5 example.
11:54:02 | 5 date range during which Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife had
11 :56:28 |\n| 6 | Q. I'm taking that as an example.
11:54:02 | 6 access to the Golden Spring (New York) debit card?
11:56:32 |\n| 7 | A. If hotel, we obviously, Golden Spring, will
11 :54:05 | A. I don't recall, sir.
7
11:56:38 |\n| | 8 call the hotel to verify.
11:54:09 | 8
Q. Do you recall the last time that she --
11 :56:42 |\n| 9 | Q. To verify that the charge was made?
11:54:10 | 9 meaning Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife -- used the
11 :56:46 |\n| 10 | A. Yes.
11:54:14 | 10 Golden Spring (New York) debit card?
11 :56:49 |\n| II | That is part of internal, I mean, audit.
11:54:14 | A. I don't recall.
11 :56:53
11 |\n| | 12 It -- it is normal.
11:54:18 | Q. Did you, as president and treasurer of
12
11:56:54 |\n| 13 | Q. Okay. Sohowaboutfiguringoutwhoused
11:54:19 | 13 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, authorize
11:56:59 |\n| | 14 the credit card? How would you do that?
11:54:23 | 14 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife to use the Golden Spring
11:57:04 |\n| 15 | A. You -- I don't follow your question, sir.
11:54:26 | 15 (New York) debit card?
11:57:09 |\n| 16 | Who used credit cards? You mean
11:54:34 | A. Authorized? I believe yes. And
16
11:57:12 |\n| | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, how he used credit card; right?
11 :54:36 | 17 Mr. Qiang Guo requested Golden Spring to do that.
11:57:17 |\n| 18 | Q. Sure.
11:54:40 | Q. But you don't recall when that was?
18
11:57:20 |\n| 19 | That -- that is -- that is a possibility,
11:54:41 | 19
A. Correct.
11:57:25 |\n| | 20 but I don't know. I'm asking you.
11:54:43 | 20
Q. Okay. And I believe you testified a moment
11 :57:27 |\n| 21 | A. No.
11:54:45 | 21 ago that to your knowledge Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has never
11:57:3 |\n| 22 | He doesn't use Golden Spring's credit cards. 11:54:45 | 22 used the Golden Spring (New York) debit card; is that 11: 57:38 |\n| 23 | Q. Does Golden Spring have credit cards?
11 :54:48 | 23 correct?
11 :57:43 |\n| 24 | A. We have debit card.
11:54:51 | A. HeneverhasGoldenSpring(NewYork)debit
24
11:57:46 |\n| 25 | Q. Okay. Does Golden Spring have any credit
11:54:53
Page 102 | 25 card at all.
11:57:51
Page 104 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | 1 cards?
11 :54:58 | Q. Has he ever used the debit card number to
11 :57:55 |\n| 2 | A. As of now, no.
11:55:00 | 2 purchase anything, to your knowledge?
11 :57:58 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. Does Mr. Kwok have access to the
11 :55:03 | A. I don't know.
11 :58:01
3 |\n| | 4 Golden Spring debit card?
11:55:12 | Q. Has he ever asked you -- \"he\" meaning
11:58:03
4 |\n| 5 | A. No.
11 :55: 15 | 5 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
11:58:08 |\n| 6 | Q. What about his wife? Does he [sic] have
11:55:15 | Has he ever asked you to purchase anything
11 :58:09
6 |\n| | 7 access to the Golden Spring debit card?
11:55:18 | 7 for him in your capacity as president of
11:58:12 |\n| 8 | A. I don't recall.
11:55:21 | 8 Golden Spring?
11:58:15 |\n| 9 | Q. You are the treasurer of Golden Spring
11:55:25 | A. I believe so.
11:58:19
9 |\n| | 10 (New York) Limited; right?
11:55:33 | Q. Okay. Can you give us an example of
10
11 :58:21 |\n| II | A. Yes.
11:55:36 | 11 anything he has asked you to purchase for him?
11 :58:25 |\n| 12 | Q. You -- you really don't know whether
11:55:38 | 12
A. I mean, I don't recall the details, but it
11:58:29 |\n| | 13 Ho Wan Kwok's wife has access to the company debit
11:55:43 | 13 happened.
11:58:33 |\n| | 14 card?
11:55:48 | 14
Q. You don't remember a single thing that
11 :58:34 |\n| 15 | A. She had one before, but I'm not sure whether 11:55:49 | 15 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has asked you to purchase for him?
11:58:37 |\n| | 16 that one is still activated.
11:55:53 | 16
A. I don't recall.
11 :58:43 |\n| 17 | Q. When did she have one?
11:55:56 | Q. How many times has it happened that he has
17
11 :58:44 |\n| 18 | A. Long time ago.
11:55:58 | 18 asked you to purchase something for him?
11:58:49 |\n| 19 | Q. Can you do better than that?
11:56:00 | 19
A. I don't recall.
11 :58:54 |\n| 20 | A. What do you mean, can I do better than that, 11: 56 :0 5 | 20
Q. More than once?
11 :58:54 |\n| | 21 sir?
11:56: 10 | 21
A. Correct.
11:58:57 |\n| 22 | Q. You know what I mean.
11 :56: 10 | 22
Q. More than a hundred times?
11:58:59 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
11:56:12 | 23
A. I don't recall.
11 :59:02 |\n| 24 | Can you please ask the witness directly what 11:56:15
25 your question is?
11:56:17 | 24
Q. On the occasions when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has
11:59:03
25 asked you to purchase something for him, what do you
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11 :59:18 | Have I got that right?
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A. As per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, I help
11 :59:20 | A. Yeah. That is the instruction was given to
12:02:31
2 |\n| 3 him, yes I go to buy for him.
11 :59:28 | 3 Golden Spring; so --
12:02:34 |\n| II :59:32
Q. Okay. Have -- has -- have you ever--
4 | 4
Q. And is this --
12:02:35 |\n| 5 has -- have you ever refused a request from
11:59:37 | 5
A. -- we just go buy.
12:02:38 |\n| 6 J\\Ar. Ho Wan Kwok that you purchase something for him? 11 :59:41 | 6
Q. Is that true, no matter how expensive the
12:02:40 |\n| 7
A. Yes.
11 :59:45 | 7 item is?
12:02:42 |\n| 8
Q. When was that?
11:59:46 | A. Sir, what -- what is your range about
12:02:44
8 |\n| A. I don't recall. But I obviously need to
9
11 :59:48 | 9 expensive? I mean --
12:02:48 |\n| 10 report it to Mr. Qiang Guo, and ifhe reject it,
11:59:56 | Q. Well, let's take -- let's take
12:02:50
10 |\n| 11 I will reject
12:00:01 | 11 transportation as an example.
12:02:53 |\n| 12
Q. Okay. Is your -- so I want to make sure
12:00:03 | 12
Are you aware that -- that Mr. Kwok
12:02:54 |\n| 13 I understand the process.
12:00:06 | 13 frequently travels in a Maybach limousine?
12:02:57 |\n| 14
Is it your testimony that every time
12:00:07 | 14
A. Am I aware? What do you mean am I aware?
12:03:05 |\n| 15 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asks you to buy something for him
12.00.10 | Q. Do you know -- do you know what a limousine
12:03:09
15 |\n| 16 thatyouconsulthissontogetpermission' Isthat 12:00:14 | 16 is?
12:03:12 |\n| 17 correct or not?
1200.23 | 17
A. Limo, yes. I do know.
12:03:13 |\n| A. Not every time. Like, as you said, for
18
12:00:23 | 18
Q. Okay. And do you know what a Maybach is?
12:03:15 |\n| 19 example, buy coffee; right?
12:00:27 | 19
A. Yes.
12:03:18 |\n| 20
Obviously I don't need to consult with
12:00:28 | Q. Okay. Is it a type of car; right?
20
12:03: 19 |\n| 21 Mr. Qiang Guo.
12:00:30 | A. Correct.
12:03:22
21 |\n| 22
Q. Okay. How do you decide when to consult
12:00:32 | Q. Isn't it true that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
22
12:03:22 |\n| 23 with JI.Ar. Kwok Ho Wan's son about a purchase that
12:00:35 | 23 frequently travels by Maybach?
12:03:27 |\n| 24 Mr. Kwok Ho Wan wants you to make?
12:00:43 | A. Sir-- sir, I know Mileson want his father
12:03:32
24 |\n| A. I don't recall. But that happened.
25
12:00:46 | 25 to be safe and secured; so that is the thing I know.
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Q. Do you have any -- any thoughts about that?
12:00:49 | I But I don't know, like, frequency. I use that
12:03 :43 |\n| A Like, a legal fee?
12:00:53
2 | 2 Obviously, I am not following his father every day.
12:03:48 |\n| Q. No.
12:00:57
3 | 3 I cannot tell that
12:03:50 |\n| I'm -- I'm just asking you in general. I'm
12:00:58
4 | Q. Does -- does Golden Spring-- I'll ask you
12:03:51
4 |\n| 5 not asking you about legal fees yet, although
12:01 :00 | 5 to accept for purposes of this deposition today --
12:03:54 |\n| 6 hopefully we will get there.
12:01:05 | 6 just take my word for it that within the last month
12:03:59 |\n| I'm asking you about in general if
12:01:06
7 | 7 Mr. Kwok has traveled at least once by Maybach.
12:04:02 |\n| 8 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok says, hey, Yvette, I would like you
12:01:08 | 8
Okay?
12:04:08 |\n| 9 to buy me X, how do you know whether just to buy X or 12:01: 14 | Let's just assume that.
9
12:04:08 |\n| 10 whether to get his son's permission? How do you
12:01:21 | 10
My question for you is is that Maybach
12:04: 11 |\n| II decide?
12:01:30 | 11 transportation that Golden Spring (New York) has paid 12:04:17 |\n| A Well, yearly, like, his food and his coffee
12:01:30
12 | 12 for?
12:04: 19 |\n| 13 and then his transportation, those lifestyle were
12:01:34 | A. Golden Spring (New York) pays -- pays the --
12:04:21
13 |\n| 14 already approved by Mr. Qiang Guo; so you already --
12:01:40 | 14 the gasolines and-- yeah. The gasolines. That
12:04:24 |\n| 15 Golden Spring just to go ahead to buy or purchase and 12:01:44 | [5 IS --
12:04:31 |\n| 16 then report back to Mr. Qiang Guo; so anything
12:01:49 | 16
Q. Does --
12:04:31 |\n| 17 except -- besides -- except which words? Except
12:01:53 | 17
A. -- what transportation we are paying.
12:04:32 |\n| 18 that, we obviously, Golden Spring, need to escalate
12:01:57 | 18
Q. Does Golden Spring (New York) own any
12:04:35 |\n| 19 to Mr. Qiang Guo to get approval.
12:02:02 | 19 Maybach vehicles?
12:04:36 |\n| 20
Q. Understood.
12:02:04 | A. Oh, I -- I couldn't remember, like, if
20
12:04:38 |\n| And so ifl -- ifl have you correctly,
12:02:05
21 | 21 Maybach owned by Golden Spring or not. I mean,
12:04:47 |\n| 22 things like food, clothing, transportation -- those
12:02:08 | 22 Golden Spring owns a couple of cars. They all
12:04:50 |\n| 23 things do not require specific approval of
12:02: 15 | 23 ultimately owned by Mr. Qiang Guo.
12:04:53 |\n| 24 Mr. Qiang Guo and, in your mind, you can just buy
12:02: 19
25 them for Mr. Kwok without getting his permission.
12:02:26 | 24
Q. Yeah. I get that
12:04:56
25
Tell me about the cars that Golden Spring
12:04:57 |\n\n28 (Pages I 06 - I 09)\n\n| | 1 owns. You just mentioned that there are a couple. | 12:04:59 | | 1 BY MR. HARBACH: | 12:07:53 | |\n|-------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|------------|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------|------------|\n| 2
\\Vhat are they? | 12:05:06 | | 2 | Q. Sure. | 12:07:53 | |\n| 3 | A I'm not car person; so I have to find out. | 12:05:07 | 3 | A. I do need a lunch break, yeah. | 12:07:53 | |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. Are they nice cars 7
12:05:11 | | 4 | Q. If--ifyouwouldliketotakeabreaknow, 12:07:56 | | |\n| 5
A I cannot tell. | 12:05:14 | | | 5 that is no problem at all. | 12:07:58 | |\n| 6 | Q. And you don't know whether one of the cars | 12:05:16 | 6 | MR HARBACH: I don't know if Suzanne or | | 12:08:02 |\n| | 7 that Golden Spring (New Yark) owns is a Maybach; is | 12:05:20 | | 7 Jeff who takes us off, but I will suggest reconvening 12:08:03 | | |\n| 8 thatright? | 12:05:24 | | | 8 at -- at 1 :00 o'clock. | 12:08:08 | |\n| 9 | A. I don't know because this is Mr. M1leson, | 12:05:26 | 9 | Is that amenable to folks? | 12:08: 10 | |\n| | 10 like Mr. Qiang Guo, he purchased directly | 12:05:31 | 10 | MR ROSEN: Yes. | 12:08: 13 | |\n| Q. Yeah.
11 | 12:05:34 | | 11 | MR HARBACH: Okay. | 12:08:15 | |\n| A So I'm not --
12 | 12:05:35 | | 12 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: | We are going off the | 12:08: 16 |\n| 13 | Q. I -- I -- I understand.
12:05:36 | | | 13 record. | 12:08: 17 | |\n| 14 | But I'm asking about Golden Spring | 12:05:37 | 14 | The time is 12:08. | 12:08: 17 | |\n| 15 (New York). | 12.05.40 | | 15 | (Luncheon recess taken.) | 13:01:33 | |\n| Okay?
16 | 12:05:40 | | 16 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: | We are back on the | 13:01:33 |\n| 17 | I'm asking about Golden Spring (New York) | 12.05.41 | | 17 record. | 13:01:36 | |\n| | 18 Limited, of which you are the president, treasurer, | 12:05 :44 | 18 | The time is 1:01. | 13:01 :36 | |\n| | 19 secretary, and director. I'm asking if you know | 12:05:48 | | 19 BY MR. HARBACH: | 13:01:40 | |\n| | 20 whether Golden Spring (New Yark) Limited owns | 12:05:52 | 20 | Q. Good afternoon, Ms. Wang -- Ms. Wang. | | 13:01:46 |\n| 21 a Maybach automobile. | 12:05:55 | | 21 | One little loose end that has nothing to do | 13:01:48 | |\n| 22
Do you know? | 12:05:57 | | | 22 with what I was asking you about before lunch. | | 13:01:53 |\n| 23 | 12 05:59
A. I don't recall. I have to find out. | | 23 | Okay? Do you know someone called Yu Yong? | | 13:01:56 |\n| 24 | Q. Okay. You have also told me that | 12:06:02 | | 24 That is Y-u Y-o-n-g. | 13:02:02 | |\n| | 25 Golden Spnng (New Yark) pays for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's | 12:06:07 | 25 | A. Yes. | 13:02:09 | |\n| | | | | | | |\n| | | Page 110 | | | | Page 112 |\n| | | | | | | |\n| 1 transportation; right? | | 12:06: 13 | 1 | Q. Okay. Who is that person? | 13:02:10 | |\n| A Correct.
2 | 12:06:15 | | 2 | A. I met her in New York before. | 13:02:13 | |\n| 3 | Q. And that would include transportation by | 12:06:16 | 3 | Q. Okay. Do you know what she does for | | 13:02: 17 |\n| 4 car; correct? | 12:06:20 | | | 4 aliving? | 13:02:25 | |\n| 5
A Correct. | 12:06:22 | | 5 | A. When I met with her, she was working | | 13:02:26 |\n| 6 | Q. That would include arranging for a leased | 12:06:24 | | 6 together with the family also. | 13 :02:29 | |\n| | 7 vehicle if that is how he wanted to travel; correct? | 12:06:32 | 7 | Q. The -- the Guo family? | 13:02:30 | |\n| 8 | A We pay the gasoline. | 12:06:37 | 8 | A. Yes. | 13:02:34 | |\n| 9 | Q. Yeah. I heard that I'm just trying to | 12:06:42 | 9 | Q. With whom specifically? | 13:02:35 | |\n| | 10 figure out who owns the vehicle, Ms. Wang. | 12:06:45 | 10 | A. With Mr. Qiang Guo. | 13:02:38 | |\n| 11 | Do you know whether Golden Spring (New York) 12:06:49 | | 11 | Q. Anyone else? | 13:02:44 | |\n| | 12 Limited has rented or leased a Maybach in order to | 12:06:52 | 12 | A. I believe with -- with Mr. Qiang Guo's | 13:02:45 | |\n| | 13 transport Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? Do you know? | 12:06:57 | | 13 father together -- | 13:02:49 | |\n| A I don't know.
14 | 12:07:02 | | 14 | Q. And-- | 13:02:51 | |\n| 15 | MR HARBACH: So Mr. -- Mr. Rosen, I'll take 12:07:10 | | 15 | A. -- but I don't have the details. | 13:02:52 | |\n| | 16 the witness up on her offer to get back to us on the | 12 :07: 15 | 16 | Q. Okay. And approximately when was that that | | 13:02:54 |\n| | 17 types of cars that Golden Spring (New York) owns, | 12:07: 19 | | 17 you met her? | 13:02:57 | |\n| | 18 and, in particular, whether they own any Maybach | 12:07:24 | 18 | A. 2015. | 13:02:58 | |\n| | 19 automobiles, if that is okay with you. | 12:07:28 | 19 | Q. Okay. Thank you. | 13:03:01 | |\n| 20 | MR ROSEN: We'll take it under advisement. | 12:07:31 | 20 | A new subject. | 13:03:04 | |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. | 12:07:33 | 21 | Who set up Golden Spring (New York) Limited? 13:03:07 | | |\n| 22 | MR ROSEN: Your request is -- is noted. | 12:07:33 | 22 | A. In my understanding, it was set up by | 13:03:13 | |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH: All right Thank you. | 12:07:38 | | 23 Mr. Qiang Guo. | 13:03:19 | |\n| 24
25 I mean, it is 12:00. | THE WITNESS: Sir, can we have a break?
12:07:51 | 12:07:49 | 24 | Q. Who -- when you say it is your
25 understanding, do you know that or did somebody tell | 13:03:20 | 13 :03 :23 |\n\n29 (Pages 110 - 113)\n\n| 1 you that?
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MR. ROSEN: Objection. What is the -- what
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A. This is I learned afterwards. I believe
13:03:27 | 2 is the relevance of this, David?
13:06:46 |\n| 3 there will be --there will be law firms supporting
13:03:31 | MR. HARBACH: I'm trying to explore the
13:06:49
3 |\n| 4 by him, but he set up the company.
13:03:34 | 4 witness' most recent answer about the business
13:06:52 |\n| 5
Q. Why did he set up the company?
13:03:37 | 5 purpose of Golden Spring. She said that he -- that
13:06:55 |\n| 6
A. I got to know later on -- not, like, when he 13:03:39 | 6 he, Qiang Guo, created it to do X, Y, and Z. And I'm 13:06: 59 |\n| 7 set up the company -- he was trying to do business
13:03:46 | 7 trying to inquire about how long he was actually in
13:07:05 |\n| 8 outside of China, like, mainly in the U.S. here.
13:03:50 | 8 the country after Golden Spring was created. That is 13:07:09 |\n| 9
Q. What sort of business?
13:03:54 | 9 why I'm asking.
13:07:12 |\n| A. Like, business related to real estate,
13:03:56
10 | 10
MR. ROSEN: Just note for the record that we 13:07:13 |\n| 11 investment -- like a diversified business.
13:04:02 | 11 are all here in different locations at this
13:07: 14 |\n| Q. Okay. Who funded Golden Spring (New York)
13 :04:06
12 | 12 deposition. And in today's world where your -- where 13:07: 18 |\n| 13 when it was created?
13:04:11 | 13 your seat is doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot.
13:07:23 |\n| A. I learned afterwards Mr. Qiang Guo, he
14
13:04:12 | 14
But with that said, I would instruct the
13 :07:26 |\n| 15 arranged the fund -- fund the Golden Spring.
13:04:22 | 15 witness to answer.
13:07:29 |\n| Q. When you say he arranged it, do you mean
13:04:26
16 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:07:30 |\n| 17 that he, himself, provided the money?
13:04:29 | 17
Q. The --the question was when-- or how long
13:07:30 |\n| A. Hmmm. No.
13:04:34
18 | 18 has Mr. Qiang Guo lived in the UK.
13:07:36 |\n| He arranged via his -- another company.
13:04:35
19 | A. For years. I mean--
13:07:40
19 |\n| 20 I believe it is called Bravo Luck.
13:04:40 | 20
Q. Are you finished with your answer?
13:07:51 |\n| Q. I see.
13:04:44
21 | You said for years, maybe?
13:08:03
21 |\n| 22
And so your understanding is that the money
13:04:45 | 22
A. My -- my answer was not four, f-o-u-r, as
13:08:04 |\n| 23 that funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it
13:04:48 | 23 years. This is my answer.
13:08:04 |\n| 24 was created came from Bravo Luck?
13:04:55 | 24
Q. All right.
13:08:04 |\n| 25
A. That is what I learned.
13:05:00 | 25
A. I don't know how many, yeah.
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Q. From whom?
13:05:01 | 1
Q. You don't know how many years?
13:08:06 |\n| A. From Mr. Qiang Guo.
13:05:03
2 | A. Correct.
13:08:08
2 |\n| 3
Q. Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
13:05:05 | Q. Could it be more than ten years?
13:08:09
3 |\n| 4 about Bravo Luck?
13:05: 10 | A. I don't think so.
13:08:11
4 |\n| 5
A. Hmmm. I don't recall.
13:05: 13 | Q. How long, if -- if you know, how long after
5
13:08: 13 |\n| 6
Q. Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
13:05: 16 | 6 Golden Spring (New York) Limited was created did
13:08:24 |\n| 7 about the source of money that was used to fund
13:05:20 | 7 Mr. Guo -- Qiang Guo move to the UK?
13:08:28 |\n| 8 Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it was created? 13:05:24 8 | A. I cannot recall.
13:08:34 |\n| 9
A. No.
13:05:28 | 9
Q. All right. Do you know -- what can you tell 13:08:40 |\n| I don't recall I did that.
13:05:30
10 | 10 us about what Golden Spring (New York) Limited has
13:08:47 |\n| II
Q. Do you know how Bravo Luck got the money
13:05:34 | 11 done to advance the business purposes you just
13:08:50 |\n| 12 that you say funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited? 13:05:41 12 described? | 13:08:55 |\n| A. I don't know.
13:05:44
13 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo was in the United States in
13:08:55
13 |\n| 14
Q. What is -- what was Golden Spring
13:05:47 | 14 2015, and then he travels a lot also. And,
13:09:05 |\n| 15 (New York)'s business purpose when it was created?
13:05:54 | 15 obviously, he set up the company, and then we develop 13:09:12 |\n| A. Oh, Golden Spring was created as a family
13:05:57
16 | 16 business structure and plan from there; so that is
13:09:16 |\n| 17 office owned by Mr. Qiang Guo; so Mr. Qiang Guo was | 13:06:04 17 still his direction, which we have been doing until
13:09:22 |\n| 18 planning, as I said, to develop and expand the
13:06:09 | 18 his father started to do his whistle-blower moment.
13:09:28 |\n| 19 business in the United States, including, like, as
13:06:14 | 19
Q. What was the business plan in the beginning? 13:09:33 |\n| 20 I said, investment, real estate, and the business
13:06:21 | 20
A. Investment.
13:09:37 |\n| 21 he -- he was doing by then.
13:06:25 | Q. Okay. In, I believe, you mentioned real
13:09:41
21 |\n| 22
Q. Where does Mr. Qiang Guo live today? What
13:06:28 | 22 estate.
13:09:48 |\n| 23 country?
13:06:33 | 23
What else?
13:09:48 |\n| 24
A. He lives in UK.
13:06:38
Q. How long has he lived there?
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A. We started from real estate. There was real 13:09:49
25 estate, like, investment.
13:09:53 |\n\n30 (Pages 114 - 117)\n\n| | Q. Okay. So any other business purpose,
13:09:54 | I'd object on the -- on the grounds that I'm 13:13:18 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 besides investing money?
13:09:57 | 2 not sure that your use of the word client is -- is
13: 13:23 |\n| 3 | A. And operate as a family office in New York
13: 10:00 | 3 being understood.
13:13:25 |\n| | 4 here to support other family projects.
13:10:09 | Could you clarify that, please?
13:13:25
4 |\n| 5 | Q. Okay. You have mentioned earlier the
13:10:15 | MR. HARBACH: Sure.
13:13:29
5 |\n| | 6 support of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
13:10:19 | 6 BY MR. HARBACH:
13: 13:32 |\n| 7 | What other family projects has Golden Spring 13: 10:23 | 7
Q. Ms. Wang, do you know what I mean by the
13: 13:33 |\n| | 8 (New York) Limited supported?
13:10:27 | 8 word client?
13:13:36 |\n| 9 | A. Including their project -- real estate.
13:10:29 | A. Client means that you offer services to get
13:13:39
9 |\n| | 10 Like, including, like, interviews and handouts. The
13:10:39 | 10 paid.
13:13:43 |\n| | 11 architecture, designer, like, real estate-related
13:10:45 | |\n| | | Q. Okay. A moment ago you said that the client 13: 13 :44
11 |\n| | 12 vendors, and then we, like, facilitate and coordinate 13:10:50 | 12 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was the family.
13:13:51 |\n| | 13 by them.
13:10:54 | Did you mean that in the sense that you just 13: 13: 5 5
13 |\n| 14 | Q. IsGoldenSpring(NewYork)Limiteda--
13:10:55 | 14 described, or did you mean that in a different way?
13: 13:59 |\n| | 15 afor-profitenterprise?
13:10:59 | A. I mean the client is the Guo family.
13:14:02
15 |\n| 16 | A. It is.
13: 11 :03 | 16 I mean, they -- they are, as I testified before,
13:14:06 |\n| 17 | Q. And what is its source of income?
13:11:03 | 17 like, a hundred family member. They all could be our 13: 14:12 |\n| 18 | A. Source of income? I mean, we are
13:11:08 | 18 clients. They are all business people.
13:14:15 |\n| 19 | a for-profit company, but we are not turning to,
13: 11: 16 | 19
Q. Okay.
13:14:18 |\n| | 20 like, make revenue yet; so the source of income is
13:11:23 | A. So as a client of Golden Spring, which
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13:14:19 |\n| | 21 supposed to be, like, a -- we build up the project
13:11:26 | 21 I mean.
13:14:22 |\n| | 22 under the family plan, and then we start to make
13:11:31 | Q. Okay. Doyoumeanthatmembersofthe
22
13:14:23 |\n| | 23 profit from those projects -- investment projects.
13: 11 :36 | 23 family pay Golden Spring?
13:14:25 |\n| 24 | Q. Okay. So the -- the company invests money
13: 11 :40 | A. I mean if Golden Spring offered a service
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13:14:31 |\n| | 25 and hopes to make money from investments.
13: 11 :43 | 25 and then helped them to invest successfully, yes.
13: 14:34 |\n| | Page 118 | Page 120 |\n| | | |\n| 1 | Is that it?
13: 11:47 | 1 Golden Spring would be paid.
13:14:39 |\n| 2 | A. That's part of the source of income, yes.
13:11:48 | Q. Okay. So now my question is is
13:14:40
2 |\n| | 3 Planned.
13:11:52 | 3 Mr.HoWanKwokpartofthefamilythatisaclient
13:14:45 |\n| 4 | Q. Does the -- does the company, Golden Spring
13:11:52 | 13:14:50 |\n| | | 4 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited? |\n| | 5 (New York) Limited, have any clients? Or is it just 13:11:57 | MR. ROSEN: Objection to form.
13:14:54
5 |\n| | 6 the family?
13:12:01 | It -- the -- is your question is he
13:14:58
6 |\n| 7 | A. I mean, family office typically, to our
13: 12:02 | 7 individually a client? Because what you asked is is
13:15:01 |\n| | 8 understanding, is support and serve for the family
13: 12:08 | 8 he part of the family that is a client.
13:15:05 |\n| | 9 business; so our clients are the family.
13: 12: 13 | MR. HARBACH: Well, I'm sorry for-- for--
13:15:08
9 |\n| 10 | Q. Okay. And that includes Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,
13:12:15 | 10 I'm really not meaning to be confusing.
13:15:11 |\n| | 11 does it not?
13:12:20 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:15:14 |\n| 12 | A. He is the person -- the owner of the company 13: 12:21 | 12
Q. I understood, Ms. Wang, you to say a moment
13:15:14 |\n| | 13 requesting Golden Spring to support; so Golden Spring 13: 12:28 | 13 ago that the family -- which is composed of numerous
13: 15: 17 |\n| | 14 does not, like, plan or, like, having profit from his 13:12:31 | 14 people, you said.
13:15:22 |\n| | 15 father, which, like, we didn'tthinkaboutthatand
13:12:39 | Thatthe family is a client of Golden Spring 13:15:22
15 |\n| | 16 how; right?
13:12:43 | 16 (New York) Limited; is that correct?
13: 15:26 |\n| 17 | Q. Well,youjustsaidamomentagothat
13:12:45 | 17
A. The family and their family member who are
13:15:29 |\n| | 18 Golden Spring (New York) limited's clients was the
13: 12:47 | 18 the business people; correct?
13: 15:36 |\n| | 19 family. And I ask you if that included
13:12:58 | They are the Golden Spring's clients. Of
19
13:15:37 |\n| | 20 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
13: 13:00 | 20 course, I don't mean that like in the minor kids;
13:15:40 |\n| 21 | The reason I asked that question is because
13: 13:01 | 21 right?
13:15:44 |\n| | 22 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the family, is he not? 13:13:04 22 | So I made that very clear.
13:15:44 |\n| 23 | A. So this is my answer. Golden Spring --
13:13:09 | Q. Is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok a member of that family?
23
13: 15:46 |\n| 24 | MR. ROSEN: Hold off answering, please, just 13:13:15 | A. He is one of the family member, yes.
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13:15:50 |\n| | 25 for a second.
13: 13: 18 | 25
Q. To your knowledge, has Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever 13:15:53 |\n\n31 (Pages 118 - **121)**\n\n1 contributed or paid any money to Golden Spnng 2 (New York) Limited? 3 A. No. 4 To my knowledge. 13:16:11 13:16:13 13:16:16 13:16:06 5 Q. To your knowledge, has any business 13:16:17 6 organization that 1Ar. Ho Wan Kwok owns or controls 13:16:26 7 ever contributed any money to Golden Spring 13:16:32 8 (New Yark) Limited? l\\1R. ROSEN: Objection. You can answer the question. 13:16:36 13:16:39 13:16:40 9 10 11 TI-IE WITNESS: To my knowledge, no. 13:16:42 12 BY l\\1R. HARBACH 13:16:45 13 Q. And you -- as the treasurer of Golden Spring 13: 16:49 14 (New York) Limited, would that be something you would 13:16:53 15 expect to know ifit had happened? 16 A. Since I was -- 17 l\\1R. ROSEN. Object. 18 You can answer. 13.16.56 13:16:59 13.17.03 13:17:04 19 TI-IE WITNESS: Since I was appointed of 13:17:07 20 treasurer of Golden Spring, I didn't see any money 13:17: 11 21 come from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok And Golden Spring doesn't 13:17:13 22 look at him as a client; so he is a family member, 13: 17: 17 23 butheisnotourkindoflikeprospectiveclient. 13:17:21 24 He is the owner. He is the father of the owner, 13:17:25 25 like, it -- that's our understandmg. I BY MR. HARBACH: 2 Q. He, in fact, is the owner, isn't he, 3 Ms. Wang? MR. ROSEN: Objection. 13:17:31 13: 17:32 13:17:33 13:17:36 13: 17:37 **Page 122** 4 5 THE WITNESS: He is not the owner at all. 13: 17:38 6 BY MR. HARBACH: 13: 17:42 7 Q. Were you an employee or a director or 13:17:46 8 officer of Golden Spring at the time that it was 13:17:53 9 created? 13: 17:56 10 A You mean back to 2015, sir? 13:18:00 II Q. Yes. 13:18:04 12 A No. 13:18:05 13 Q. Returning to my question about Golden Spring 13: 18:06 14 (New York) Limited's source of income, is there 13:18:16 15 anything else in that category, other than returns on 13: 18:22 16 investment? 13: 18:26 17 A What do you mean? Like any other source of 13: 18:28 18 income besides what I reply to you before? 13:18:38 19 Q. Yes. 13:18:41 20 A Okay. So that would be our major source of 13:18:42 21 **income.** Like, a family office -- I mean, in my 13: 18:45 13:18:58 **2 else.** I'm asking you whether there was anything 13:19:00 **3** 4 **5** A. As far as I know, like, that is all I know. 13: 19:03 Q. Okay. 13:19:08 A. That is the plan. I mean, as a family 13:19:09 6 office -- right? -- we are supposed to do investment 13: 19: 12 7 and make revenue -- make revenue. I mean, I am not 13:19: 15 8 a law firm. I am not other, you know, service 13:19:18 9 company. And then any other source of income 13:19:20 10 I should be expect. 13: 19:22 11 Q. Does Golden Spring (New York) Limited have 13: 19:24 12 any bank accounts? 13:19:28 13 A. You are asking which time apparent, sir? 13: 19:30 14 Q. I'm asking currently. 13:19:41 15 A. Yes. 13:19:43 16 Q. How many? 13:19:43 17 A. One. 13: 19:46 18 Q. At which bank? 13:19:52 19 MR. ROSEN: Objection. There are security 13:19:55 20 issues involved here, and we're -- I understand that 13:19:59 21 Golden Spring's bank accounts have been shut down as 13:20:06 22 part of what has been described to me as a harassment 13:20:09 23 scheme; so I would ask at this point not to 13:20: 13 24 disclose --the witness not to disclose the location 13:20:16 25 of the bank account 13:20:19 Page 124 MR. HARBACH: Okay. Scott, I'm not meaning 13:20:20 2 to disregard your instruction. I'm going to ask 13:20:25 3 another question, and if you want to include this 13:20:28 4 under your objection, please do. But I'm going to 13:20:31 5 ask this one. 6 BY MR. HARBACH: 13:20:34 13:20:35 7 Q. Ms. Wang, is Golden Spring (New York)'s bank 13:20:35 8 account with a U.S. bank? 9 A. Yes. 13:20:38 13:20:42 10 Q. What is the approximate current balance in 13:20:43 11 that account? 13:20:54 12 A. I mean, for the safety, same reason. I am 13:20:57 13 very hesitant to tell you because PAX already, like, 13:21:05 14 harassed all Golden Spring's bank account. 13:21:09 15 16 17 So we are talking about DIP loan; right? 13:21:14 Q. Well, yeah. 13:21:18 You know the reasons that the -- that the 13 :21: 19 18 deposition has been noticed, and I'm not going to get 13:21:21 19 into a debate with you about whether the question is 13 :21 :26 20 proper. 13:21:28 21 My question is what is the approximate 13:21:30 22 understanding you already do investment; so when you 13: 18:51 22 balance in Golden Spring's one bank account in the 13:21:33 23 investment, you get revenue, and then we got paid, 13:18:54 23 United States? 13:21:38 24 and so we got 25 Q. I understand that. 13:18:57 13:18:57 24 MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object and would 13:21:41 25 like, ifit is acceptable to counsel, to take a short 13:21:44 Page 123 Page 125\n\n32 (Pages 122 - 125)\n\n| 1 recess to discuss this with my client.
13:21:50 | 1 finance department, they are doing that.
13:36:34 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| MR. HARBACH: Of course. No problem at all. 13:21:52
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Q. Well, you are the treasurer; right?
13:36:37 |\n| THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the
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13:21:55 | 3
MR. ROSEN: Excuse me. I thought this was
13:36:40 |\n| 4 record.
13:21:56 | 4 questions setting aside the bank account. The
13 :36:42 |\n| The time is 1 :21.
13:21 :56
5 | 5 question was what is -- what are the values of the
13:36:45 |\n| (Short recess taken.)
13:22:00
6 | 6 liquid assets, setting aside the bank account.
13:36:47 |\n| THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
13:33:59
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MR. HARBACH: Yeah. I meant -- and I can't 13:36:50 |\n| 8 record.
13:34:01 | 8 believe I said -- if! didn't, I'm mistaken. I meant 13 :36: 53 |\n| 9
The time is 1:34.
13:34:01 | 9 the identity ofthe bank. I'm not -- I'm not
13:36:56 |\n| 10
MR. HARBACH: Scott, did you want to put
13:34:06 | 10 interested in getting the identification of the bank. 13:36:59 |\n| 11 anything on the record here or no?
13:34: 11 | 11 I'm just trying to figure out how much money
13:37:02 |\n| MR. ROSEN: No.
13:34: 14
12 | 12 Golden Spring (New York) Limited has. That's it.
13:37:05 |\n| I did not need to put anything on the
13:34: 15
13 | 13 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:37:02 |\n| | |\n| 14 record.
13:34:18 | 14
Q. How much money does the company have? Do
13:37: 11 |\n| 15 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:34:18 | 15 you know?
13:37: 13 |\n| Q. Okay. Ms. Wang, did you speak with anyone
13:34: 19
16 | A. The money enough to support all of the daily 13:37: 14
16 |\n| 17 else during the break, besides your lawyer?
13:34:21 | 17 operation.
13:37:18 |\n| A I only talked with Mr. Scott Rosen.
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13:34:23 | 18
Q. Are you -- are you unwilling to tell me how
13:37: 18 |\n| 19
Q. Okay. Thank you.
13 :34:25 | 19 much money Golden Spring has or do you not know how
13:37:2\\$ |\n| 20
The pending question before the break was
13:34:26 | 20 much money Golden Spring has?
13:37:27 |\n| 21 what is the approximate balance in Golden Spring
13:34:31 | MR.ROSEN: Yeah. 1--Ihavetoobject
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13:37:29 |\n| 22 (New York) Limited's one U.S. bank account?
13:34:37 | 22 here. There are concerns about the integrity and
13:37:31 |\n| MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object and instruct 13:34:45
23 | 23 usability of Golden Spring's assets in light of
13:37:36 |\n| 24 the witness not to answer that specific question
13:34:47 | 24 creditor activity that has been conducted by PAX; so
13:37:41 |\n| 25 because of Golden Spring's concerns about maintaining 13:34:50 | 25 these are --these are sensitive issues. If-- if
13:37:46 |\n| Page 126 | Page 128 |\n| I the integrity and usability of the bank account in
13:34:54 | I you want to get to questions about where is the loan
13:37:50 |\n| 2 light of credits' rights actions that have been taken 13:34:58 | 2 proceeds going to come from, then we can -- we can
13:37:52 |\n| 3 by -- by PAX.
13:35:03 | 3 certainly go there. But with respect to its current
13:37:56 |\n| 4 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:35:05 | 4 assets, at this point the credit just -- just
13:38:00 |\n| Q. Leaving aside the identity of the bank,
5
13:35:06 | 5 outweighs any -- any -- any relevancy.
13:38:06 |\n| 6 approximately how much value in liquid assets does
13:35:11 | MR.HARBACH: 1--Ithinklunderstandyour 13:38:10
6 |\n| 7 Golden Spring (New York) Limited own?
13:35:20 | 7 objection, and rather than engage it fully, I will
13:38: 13 |\n| 8
A Golden Spring as -- I mean, enough funds to
13:35:23 | 8 just note that we strongly disagree. But if you are
13:38: 16 |\n| 9 support Golden Spring, the operation. I mean, we
13 :35 :33 | 9 instructing the witness not to answer, I'll try and
13:38:20 |\n| | |\n| 10 don't have cash flow issue, so
13:35:37 | 10 move on.
13:38:23 |\n| Q. All right. And your judgment about what
13:35:40
11 | MR. ROSEN: Thank you.
13:38:24
11 |\n| 12 might be a cash flow issue and our judgment about
13:35:44 | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:38:26 |\n| 13 what might be a cash flow issue and Judge Manning's
13:35:48 | Q. Approximately how much profit did
13:38:32
13 |\n| 14 judgment about what might be a cash flow issue could
13:35:54 | 14 Golden Spring (New York) make in the last year?
13:38:35 |\n| 15 be three very different things.
13:35:57 | |\n| | A. Because of the -- the entire, like, PAX --
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13:38:41 |\n| And so that is why I'm asking approximately
13:35:59
16 | 16 right?-- this case, I mean, PAX obviously subpoenaed 13:38:49 |\n| 17 how much money in liquid assets does Golden Spring
13 :36:03 | 17 all Golden Spring's bank. And then in my
13:38:53 |\n| 18 (New York) Limited own?
13:36:09 | 18 understanding, my console device, like, PAX didn't
13:38:57 |\n| 19
A The balance is changing every day because
13:36: 12 | 19 get anything; so -- because PAX specifically hurt our 13:39:01 |\n| 20 things happen every day; so I don't want to
13:36: 19 | 20 bank relationship in the last year, as you said,
13:39:05 |\n| 21 speculate. Obviously, I did not check the bank
13:36:22 | 21 I mean, we didn't make profit last year.
13:39:07 |\n| 22 balance right now; so I cannot say.
13:36:25 | 22
Q. You did not make a profit last year?
13:39:10 |\n| 23
Q. What -- what -- when -- when was the last
13:36:27 | 23
A. Correct.
13:39: 14 |\n| 24 time you checked the balance?
13:36:29 | 24
MR. ROSEN: Objection.
13:39: 16 |\n| A I don't recall. It is the financial --
13:36:30
25 | 25 Ill |\n\n33 (Pages 126 - 129)\n\n| 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:39:17 | 1
Q. Okay. Do you know what DIP stands for?
13:42:19 |\n|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| Q. Was there a -- was there a loss of -- of--
2
13:39:18 | 2
A. Yes.
13:42:27 |\n| 3 there was a loss of approximately how much last year? 13:39:20 | 3
Q. What does it stand for?
13:42:29 |\n| 4 Do you understand the question?
13:39:33 | A. It is a DIP loan displaying between --
4
13:42:31 |\n| A. Of course.
13:39:34
5 | 5 I mean, I'm not a lawyer; right?
13:42:42 |\n| Q. So what is --
13:39:37
6 | It is a loan between the lender and the
6
13:42:43 |\n| A. But I don't know why it is related to this
13:39:38
7 | 7 debtor.
13:42:48 |\n| 8 as well. It is sensitive information, which I have
13:39:42 | Q. Thirty seconds ago you said to me that you
13:42:49
8 |\n| 9 to keep it.
13:39:44 | 9 know what DIP stands for. It is okay if you don't.
13:42:53 |\n| Q. You are -- so you are -- you are -- you are
13:39:45
10 | 10 I'm just asking for an honest answer.
13:43:00 |\n| 11 unwilling to answer what the size of Golden Spring
13:39:46 | Do you know what DIP stands for? It is an
13 :43:04
11 |\n| 12 (New York) Limited's loss was last year; is that
13:39:51 | 12 acronym.
13:43:09 |\n| 13 right?
13:39:57 | A. It is a loan. It is a loan. That's my
13:43:09
13 |\n| 14
MR. ROSEN: Objection. This is not an asset 13:39:57 | 14 answer.
13:43:13 |\n| 15 disclosure deposition for Golden Spring. And -- and
13:40:01 | Q. Okay. It stands for debtor in possession.
13:43:13
15 |\n| 16 in light of the pending litigation that is already
13:40:03 | 16
Okay?
13:43:17 |\n| 17 out there, questions like this are overstepping what
13:40:05 | It is not a secret, but -- I'll keep going.
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13:43:19 |\n| 18 the scope of this deposition is supposed to be,
13:40:09 | Who made the request to Golden Spring
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13 :43:26 |\n| 19 which, again, this is a contested matter in
13:40:11 | 19 (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing that is 13:43:32 |\n| 20 a bankruptcy case for a DIP loan, which is being
13:40: 15 | 20 at issue here?
13:43:37 |\n| 21 granted on a fully subordinated basis; so that's --
13 :40: 19 | A. The owner of Golden Spring (New York).
13:43:39
21 |\n| | |\n| 22 that is what we are here today on, not asset
13:40:23 | Q. The owner of Golden Spring (New York) made
22
13:43:44 |\n| 23 disclosure.
13:40:27 | 23 a request to Golden Spring (New York) for DIP
13:43:52 |\n| 24
MR. HARBACH: Is that an instruction not to
13:40:34 | 24 financing? Is that your testimony?
13:43:57 |\n| 25 answer, Scott?
13:40:36
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A. I don't understand your question.
13:44:00
Page 132 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| MR. ROSEN: Yes, it is.
13:40:37 | Q. Whoaskedfortheloan?
I
13:44:05 |\n| 2 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:40:39 | A. I was not involved in this loan negotiation. 13:44:10
2 |\n| Q. Who made the requests to Golden Spring
13:40:39
3 | Q. Do you know who made the request for the
13:44:15
3 |\n| 4 (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing?
13:40:42 | 4 loan?
13:44:20 |\n| | |\n| A. I -- can I ask a translator to help me
13:40:47
5 | A. I was not involved in the negotiation of
13:44:22
5 |\n| 6 understand this question?
13:40:53 | 6 this loan. I just got instruction and advice from
13 :44:28 |\n| Q. Of course.
13:40:55
7 | 7 the owner of Golden Spring.
13:44:32 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, I'll repeat it.
13:40:56
8 | Q. Okay. Is the answer to this question -- is
13:44:34
8 |\n| Who made the request to Golden Spring
13:41:00
9 | 9 the answer to my question you don't know?
13:44:39 |\n| 10 (New York) Limited for debtor-in-possession
13:41:02 | 10
A. I was not involved.
13:44:41 |\n| 11 financing?
13:41:09 | Q. You know what? Let's use the interpreter.
13 :44:42
11 |\n| THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)
13:41:42
12 | MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, can you -- well, 13:44:48
12 |\n| THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Can the check
13 | 13 :41 :42 13 let's do it this way.
13:44:53 |\n| 14 interpreter help with that term?
13:41:45 | 14 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:44:57 |\n| THE INTERPRETER: Sure.
13:41:48
15 | Q. Do you know who made the request to
13:44:57
15 |\n| THE WITNESS: From the interpreter
13:41:55
16 | 16 Golden Spring (New York) Limited for the loan that is 13:44:59 |\n| 17 understanding, it is debtor's loan; right? Debtor's
13:41:57 | 17 the subject of today's deposition?
13:45:03 |\n| 18 position. Debtor's loan.
13:42:01 | 18
A. I don't have personal knowledge.
13:45:09 |\n| 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:42:01 | Q. Has anyone told you who made the loan-- who 13:45:11
19 |\n| 20
Q. Well, Ms. -- Ms. Wang, on several occasions
13:42:01 | 20 made the request for the loan that is the subject of 13:45: 19 |\n| 21 today you have pointed out to me that we are here to
13: 42 :03 | 21 today's deposition?
13:45:22 |\n| 22 talk about a DIP loan.
13:42:09 | 22
A. Has anyone told me?
13:45:24 |\n| 23
Do you know what a DIP loan is?
13:42:10 | 23
Q. Well, you said you didn't have personal
13:45:31 |\n| 24
A. Yes.
13:42:15 | 24 knowledge.
13:45:33 |\n| It is a loan between the debtor and lender.
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A. Yes.
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Q. And I know what that -- and I know what that 13:45:35 | 1
A. Golden Spring has been the litigation
13:48:49 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 means. | 2 funding for Mr. Qiang Guo's father, I mean, for |\n| 13:45:39 | 13:48:56 |\n| So I am asking you whether you have ever
13:45:39
3 | 3 several years. Mr. Qiang Guo made the decision,
13:49:01 |\n| 4 learned from anyone else who made the request for the 13 :45 :42 | 4 given the short time apparent. As the president of
13:49:05 |\n| 5 loan that is the subject of today's deposition. | 5 the company, I am aligned with that, and he knew and |\n| 13:45:45 | 13:49:09 |\n| A. I heard this from Mr. Qiang Guo about his
13:45:53
6 | 6 he knows I am going to align with that.
13:49:13 |\n| 7 DIP loan.
13:45:58 | Q. I see.
13:49:15
7 |\n| Q. Who did he say requested the DIP loan? | A. So no need -- |\n| 13:45:59 | 13:49:16 |\n| 8 | 8 |\n| A. He mentioned his father -- his father's | Q. And is that -- |\n| 13 :46:05 | 13:49:16 |\n| 9 | 9 |\n| 10 attorney. | A. No need to argue that, yeah, if that is what 13:49: 17 |\n| 13:46:16 | 10 |\n| | |\n| Q. Do you recall that attorney's name?
13:46:17
11 | 11 you are looking for.
13:49:20 |\n| A. I don't recall. He didn't tell me, and | 12 |\n| 12 | Q. I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- you know, I'm not |\n| 13:46:20 | 13:49:21 |\n| 13 I don't recall. | 13 trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to |\n| 13:46:23 | 13:49:22 |\n| Q. When was that request made, if you know?
14
13:46:24 | 14 understand what happened.
13:49:25 |\n| A. In March. | And so how about this? |\n| 13:46:33 | 13:49:28 |\n| 15 | 15 |\n| Q. Of what year? | 16 |\n| 13:46:41 | You understand that litigation funding in |\n| 16 | 13:49:31 |\n| A. Of this year.
17
13:46:43 | 17 the past that Golden Spring may have provided to
13 :49:37 |\n| Q. Were you -- as president, secretary,
13:46:45
18 | 18 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is different from the DIP loan that
13:49:46 |\n| 19 treasurer, and director of Golden Spring (New York) | 19 we are talking about today? You understand that |\n| 13:46:53 | 13:49:49 |\n| 20 Limited -- involved in the decision about whether to | 20 those are two different things; right? |\n| 13 :46: 58 | 13:49:51 |\n| 21 provide DIP financing to the debtor?
13:47:03 | A. Correct.
13:49:54
21 |\n| A. I was advised by Mr. Qiang Guo afterwards. | 22 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. And so I would like to focus just on |\n| 13:47:06 | 13:49:54 |\n| 23 That was a quite short time period. And he handled; | 23 the DIP loan and not litigation financing that may |\n| 13:47:16 | 13:49:58 |\n| 24 so the answer to you is I was not involved. | 24 have occurred in the past. |\n| 13:47:24 | 13:50:03 |\n| 25 | 25 |\n| Q. Were you consulted by Mr. Guo -- | Do you understand? |\n| 13:47:27 | 13:50:05 |\n| Page 134 | Page 136 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I Mr. Qiang Guo on the decision about whether
13:47:32 | A. Yes.
13:50:06
I |\n| 2 Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP
13:47:36 | Q. Okay. And so do I have it right that
13:50:10
2 |\n| 3 financing to the debtor here?
13:47:40 | 3 according to you, the decision about whether to agree 13:50: 13 |\n| A. What do you mean, consulted?
4
13:47:42 | 4 to the DIP loan for the debtor was Mr. Qiang Guo's
13:50:20 |\n| 5
Q. Do you know what consulted means?
13:47:45 | 5 decision? Correct?
13:50:27 |\n| A. Of course I know. | A. He made a decision, obviously on behalf of |\n| 6 | 6 |\n| 13:47:48 | 13:50:34 |\n| | |\n| 7
Q. Okay. So were you consulted by
13:47:49 | 7 Golden Spring, and he is the owner of the company.
13:50:41 |\n| 8 Mr. Qiang Guo about the decision on whether | 8 And we're aligned. |\n| 13:47:53 | 13:50:43 |\n| 9 Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP
13:47:59 | 9
Q. Okay. And you are the president, and all
13:50:45 |\n| 10 financing to the debtor? | 10 those other titles, of Golden Spring (New York) |\n| 13:48:03 | 13:50:49 |\n| II
A. You mean he -- when he was making the
13:48:05 | 11 Limited; correct?
13:50:52 |\n| 12 decision?
13:48:08 | A. Correct.
13:50:58
12 |\n| Q. Well, we're going to get to who made the | 13 |\n| 13:48:09 | Q. Have you ever disagreed with Mr. Qiang Guo |\n| 13 | 13:50:59 |\n| 14 decision. I'm trying to figure out whether you were | 14 about a decision that he has made? |\n| 13:48:14 | 13:51:02 |\n| 15 involved and, ifso, how. You told me a couple of
13:48:18 | A. Yes, of course.
13:51:03
15 |\n| 16 minutes ago that you were not involved with the | 16 |\n| 13:48:23 | Q. Okay. And did he solicit your agreement for 13:51:06 |\n| 17 decision. | 17 this decision? |\n| 13:48:25 | 13:51:08 |\n| I'm asking if Mr. Qiang Guo spoke to you | 18 |\n| 18 | A. For this DIP loan decision, you mean? |\n| 13:48:26 | 13:51:09 |\n| 19 about the decision.
13:48:30 | 19
Q. Uh-huh.
13:51:13 |\n| 20 | 20 |\n| A. Yes. | A. No. |\n| 13:48:33 | 13:51:14 |\n| He spoke to me about the decision. | Why? |\n| 13:48:34 | 13:51:19 |\n| 21 | 21 |\n| 22 | 22 |\n| Q. Before he made it or after? | Q. He just -- he told you -- |\n| 13:48:36 | 13:51:20 |\n| 23 | 23 |\n| A. After. | A. Why? |\n| 13:48:40 | 13:51:21 |\n| 24
Q. And am I right that the decision was his,
13:48:41 | 24
Q. He told you -- he told you about it after he 13:51:22 |\n| 25 not yours? Correct? | 25 had made a decision; correct? |\n| 13:48:47 | 13:51:24 |\n\n35 (Pages 134 - 137)\n\n| 1 | A. He briefed me what happened.
13:51:26 | 1
Do you talk to him twenty times a day?
13:54: 16 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. What did he tell you?
13:51:30 | 2
A. Obviously not.
13:54:19 |\n| 3 | A. About this DIP loan, and then he didn't have 13:51 :31 | Q. Well, it is not obvious because you won't
13:54:20
3 |\n| | 4 enough time within the short limit of time. He took
13:51:38 | 4 answer the question.
13:54:22 |\n| | 5 care of that.
13:51:42 | How often do you speak to him?
13:54:23
5 |\n| 6 | Q. Okay.
13:51:43 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
13:54:27
6 |\n| 7 | A. So he always advise me with something in the 13:51:44 | THE WITNESS: As needed.
13:54:28
7 |\n| | 8 short limit of time or urgency kind of like it.
13:51:47 | MR. ROSEN: Counsel, please specify a time
13:54:29
8 |\n| 9 | Q. Okay.
13:51:51 | 9 frame.
13:54:32 |\n| 10 | A. And then he took it like that. He briefed
13:51:52 | 10
MR. HARBACH: Sure.
13:54:33 |\n| | 11 me. That's it.
13:51:56 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:54:34 |\n| 12 | Q. Okay. And I will ask you one more time what 13:51 :57 | Q. From the moment you learned about the DIP
12
13:54:34 |\n| | 13 he said when he briefed you, and then I'll -- I'll
13:52:01 | 13 loan from some attorney until today, how frequently
13:54:37 |\n| | 14 try this another way.
13:52:04 | 14 have you spoken with Mr. Kwok Ho Wan?
13:54:44 |\n| 15 | A. Okay.
13:52:06 | 15
A. Oh, I think I met him, like, more than
13:54:51 |\n| 16 | Q. What did he say when he briefed you, if you
13:52:06 | 16 a week ago -- a week ago.
13:54:55 |\n| | 17 remember? I mean, this was, what, a month ago?
13:52:09 | 17
Q. Okay. That's one time.
13:54:58 |\n| 18 | A. So what are you asking about? Like, when
13: 5 2: 14 | 18
Any other times you can think of?
13:55:04 |\n| | 19 the brief happened or the DIP loan happened, sir?
13:52:16 | 19
A. I don't recall.
13:55:07 |\n| 20 | Q. Fifteen seconds ago you told me a couple of 13:52: 18 | 20
Q. On that one occasion that you do recall, did 13:55:10 |\n| | 21 times that Mr. Qiang Guo briefed you.
13:52:22 | 21 you discuss the DIP loan with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
13:55:15 |\n| 22 | Do you remember that?
13:52:26 | 22
A. No.
13:55: 19 |\n| 23 | A. Yes.
13:52:27 | 23
Q. When you saw Mr. Kwok most recently-- you
13:55:40 |\n| 24 | Q. What did he say when he briefed you?
13:52:28 | 24 said it was about a week ago -- was that in the
13:55:45 |\n| 25 | A. He said he retained attorney and worked
13:52:32 | 25 Golden Spring (New York) offices?
13:55:48 |\n| | Page 138 | Page 140 |\n| | I together with the lenders' attorney and then -- to
13:52:45 | A. Yes.
13:55:52
I |\n| | 2 take care of the DIP loan. And that is what he told
13:52:48 | Q. Okay. Do you recall what you did discuss
13:55:52 |\n| | | |\n| | 3 me.
13:52:53 | 2
3 with him on that occasion?
13:55:56 |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. Was that the first time you had heard 13:52:53 | A. We just -- like, I send my regards, like,
13:55:58
4 |\n| | 5 about the DIP loan?
13:52:57 | 5 social.
13:56:09 |\n| 6 | 13:52:59
A. No. | And he asked, are you doing good; right?
6
13:56:10 |\n| 7 | Q. Who was the first person you heard about it 13:53:01 | 7
So that's it, yeah.
13:56:13 |\n| | 8 from?
13:53:05 | 8
We chat -- and he chat whether I am safe,
13:56:14 |\n| 9 | A. I heard from the attorneys -- our attorneys. 13:53:06 | 9 and I did the same. That's it. We didn't -- we
13:56: 17 |\n| 10 | Q. Okay. Before this conversation with
13:53:10 | 10 didn't chat about other stuff. I don't -- we didn't. 13:56:20 |\n| | 11 Qiang Guo?
13:53: 13 | Q. Okay. And that was it, just -- just, like,
13:56:23
11 |\n| 12 | A. Correct. Yes.
13:53:14 | 12 hi, how are you, that sort of thing?
13:56:26 |\n| 13 | Q. Have you ever spoken with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
13:53:23 | A. Yes.
13:56:29
13 |\n| | 14 about the DIP loan ever?
13:53:26 | 14
Obviously he was here, I believe, like,
13:56:29 |\n| 15 | A. I don't recall.
13:53:29 | 15 meeting his attorneys. And I -- because this is my
13:56:33 |\n| 16 | Q. Is it possible that you have?
13:53:32 | 16 office; so I arranged the office, like, you know,
13:56:39 |\n| 17 | A. Unlikely. I don't recall.
13:53:36 | 17 like, take care of them; like, you know, arrange
13:56:44 |\n| 18 | Q. How often do you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 13:53:48 18 their food and coffee, those kinds of stuff; so my | 13:56:46 |\n| 19 | A. Oh, we meet as needed.
13:53:51 | 19 office did that for them.
13:56:49 |\n| 20 | Q. A few times a week?
13:53:56 | 20
Q. Your office or you?
13:56:51 |\n| 21 | A. As needed.
13:54:00 | A. My office. I instructed my office to do
13:56:52
21 |\n| 22 | Q. More or less than a few times a week?
13:54:02 | 22 that.
13:56:58 |\n| 23 | A. As needed.
13:54:07 | 23
Q. Okay. You have -- in your capacity as
13:56:58 |\n| 24 | Q. I mean, as needed could be twenty times
13:54:11 | 24 president and so forth of Golden Spring --you know
13:57: 16 |\n| | 25 a day, Ms. Wang.
13:54: 14 | 25 what I mean by and so forth; right?
13:57:20 |\n\n36 (Pages 138 - **141)**\n\n| 1
A.
I don't really know that. | 13:57:23 | | | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
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Q.
Okay. | 13:57:25 | | 2 | Q. Did Mr. Qiang Guo ever tell you how the
14:00:32 |\n| 3
What means so forth?
A. | 13:57:26 | | | 3 \\$8 million figure was arrived at?
14:00:35 |\n| Q.
Sure.
4 | 13:57:27 | | 4 | A. (In English) No.
14:00:38 |\n| 5 | I mean all those other titles, president, | 13:57:29 | 5 | Q. Are you familiar with the terms of the DIP
14:00:52 |\n| 6 secretary, treasurer, director. | 13:57:33 | | | 6 loan?
14:01:00 |\n| You hold all four titles; right?
7 | 13:57:35 | | 7 | A. You just asked me, yes. Now, yes.
14:01:01 |\n| A. Correct.
8 | 13:57:37 | | 8 | MR. HARBACH: Let's use the interpreter,
14:01: 11 |\n| 9 | Q. Okay. And you are the only president; | 13:57:38 | | 9 please.
14:01:13 |\n| 10 correct? | 13:57:40 | | 10 | Ms. Johnston, could you please ask: Are you 14:01: 15 |\n| A. Correct.
11 | 13:57:41 | | | 11 familiar with the terms of the DIP loan?
14:01:19 |\n| Q. The only treasurer; correct?
12 | 13:57:42 | | 12 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
14:01:34 |\n| A. Yes.
13 | 13:57:44 | | 13 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)
14:01:34 |\n| 14 | Q. Okay. And what decisions are you empowered | 13:57:44 | | 14 This was my first time involved in this matter; so
14:0 I: 50 |\n| 15 to make in those roles without Qiang Guo's | | 13:58:00 | | 15 I know it was a loan. But! am unfamiliar with the
14:01:54 |\n| 16 permission? | 13:58:06 | | | 16 terms.
14:01:58 |\n| 17 | A. I make most of the daily operation decisions 13:58:06 | | | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:02:05 |\n| | 18 in here. Of course, I will brief him when we meet or 13:58: 15 | | 18 | Q. Have you read the DIP loan agreement?
14:02:05 |\n| | 19 chat, but I made the, like, daily operation decision | 13:58:19 | 19 | A. (In English) Briefly, I went through, yes.
14:02:08 |\n| 20 by myself in here. | 13:58:25 | | 20 | Q. When was that?
14:02:17 |\n| 21 | Q. How much is the -- the DIP loan that is at | 13:58:26 | 21 | A. You mean when or what?
14:02: 18 |\n| 22 issue in this case? | 13:58:29 | | 22 | Q. I'm sorry.
14:02:23 |\n| A. The DIP loan is \\$8 million U.S.
23 | | 13:58:30 | 23 | When? When did you go through it briefly?
14:02:24 |\n| 24
Q. And who did you learn that from? | | 13:58:39 | 24 | A. Oh, when I was -- I prepped with the
14:02:28 |\n| 25
A. Who did I got this from? From | | 13:58:41 | | 25 counsels, I believe.
14:02:35 |\n| | | Page 142 | | Page 144 |\n| I Mr. Qiang Guo. | 13:58:46 | | I | Q. Okay. And how long ago was that?
14:02:36 |\n| 2 | Q. Okay. Do you know where the \\$8 million | 13:58:46 | 2 | A. l'msorry.
14:02:40 |\n| 3 figure came from? | 13:58:54 | | 3 | What was your question? How long ago was
14:02:44 |\n| 4 | A. When Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, he advise he | 13:58:55 | | 4 that?
14:02:47 |\n| | 5 will take care of that also, as we always did. Like | 13:59:06 | 5 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
14:02:47 |\n| | 6 the fund; like, for example, like, you asked did his | 13:59:10 | 6 | I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- I'm not interested in
14:02:49 |\n| | 7 father ask for buy something, like, he will -- I have 13:59: 14 | | | 7 what any of the attorneys told you, but I am
14:02:51 |\n| | 8 to escalate for him. He will make a decision for him 13:59: 17 | | | 8 interested in when you met with them.
14:02:54 |\n| 9 that way. | 13:59:21 | | 9 | So when was it that you read the DIP loan
14:02:56 |\n| 10 | Q. I'm trying to understand, if you know, how | 13:59:22 | | 10 agreement?
14:03:00 |\n| II the figure of\\$8 million was arrived at. | | 13:59:29 | 11 | A. When, you ask; right?
14:03:01 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN: Could we have the -- the | 13:59:33 | 12 | Q. Correct.
14:03:03 |\n| 13 interpreter on that? | 13:59:35 | | 13 | A. Before this deposition. Yesterday.
14:03:04 |\n| 14 | I believe the witness may have misunderstood 13:59:36 | | 14 | Q. Yesterday?
14:03:10 |\n| 15 the question the first time. | 13:59:39 | | 15 | A. Yes.
14:03:13 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Sure.
16 | | 13:59:41 | 16 | Q. Was -- was yesterday the first time you saw
14:03:14 |\n| 17 | Ms. Johnston, do you need me to repeat it? | 13:59:42 | | 17 the DIP loan agreement?
14:03: 19 |\n| 18 | THE INTERPRETER: Yes, please. | 13:59:47 | 18 | A. I know it existed before yesterday, but
14:03:23 |\n| 19 BY MR. HARBACH: | | 13:59:48 | | 19 I didn't pay too much of attention until my attorney, 14:03:28 |\n| 20 | Q. Ms. Wang, I'm asking if you know how the | 13:59:49 | | 20 like, prepped me.
14:03:34 |\n| 21 \\$8 million figure was arrived at. | | 13:59:55 | 21 | Q. Was yesterday the first day you saw the DIP
14:03:36 |\n| 22 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.) | 13:59:55 | | 22 loan agreement?
14:03:40 |\n| 23 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter) | 14:00:17 | 23 | A. I didn't recall. I may have seen that
14:03:43 |\n| | 24 I was not involved in how the \\$8 million was arrived; 14:00:22 | | | 24 before, but I couldn't recall.
14:03:46 |\n| 25 so I do not have any personal knowledge. | | 14:00:28 | 25 | MR. HARBACH: Scott, this question is not
14:03:54 |\n| | | Page 143 | | Page 145 |\n\n37 (Pages 142 - 145)\n\n| 1 remotely intended to invade the privilege, but I hope 14:03:56 | 1
THE WITNESS: Ah, okay. Again, not my
14:07:39 |\n|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 you will understand why I am asking it.
14:04:01 | 2 native language.
14:07:41 |\n| 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:04:03 | 3
So Mr. Qiang Guo advised me, and he is
14:07:42 |\n| 4
Q. Ms. Wang, when you met with the attorneys
14:04:04 | 4 taking care of that also. Because this attorney
14:07:46 |\n| 5 yesterday, was there an interpreter available to help 14:04:06 | 5 based in UK; so like, where Mr. Qiang Guo is at. He
14:07:52 |\n| 6 you?
14:04:09 | 6 will take care. For Golden Spring, we didn't receive 14:07:56 |\n| 7
A. No.
14:04: 13 | 7 invoice yet. Probably will come, but I didn't see
14:08:00 |\n| Q. When you read the DIP loan agreement
8
14:04:18 | 8 thatyet.
14:08:03 |\n| 9 yesterday, did you understand it?
14:04:21 | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:08:04 |\n| A. I know it is a loan. It is 8 million, and
10
14:04:31 | 10
Q. So when Mr. Qiang Guo told you that he would 14:08:04 |\n| 11 interest is at 5 percent and subject to the court to
14:04:34 | 11 take care of it, you understood that to mean that
14:08:07 |\n| 12 approve by the end.
14:04:38 | 12 Golden Spring (New York) would pay for her services;
14:08: 10 |\n| Q. Okay. Do you know anything else about the
14:04:42
13 | 13 is that right?
14:08:14 |\n| 14 conditions that are attached to the loan?
14:04:46 | 14
A. That is my understanding. For
14:08: 15 |\n| A. I learned from the reading it is kind of
14:04:51
15 | 15 Golden Spring, like, we didn't receive invoice. If
14:08:21 |\n| 16 like a 50 percent pay the lender -- no. The debtors
14:04:55 | 16 we receive that invoice, we will take care of that.
14:08:23 |\n| 17 professional. Another 50 percent is going to pay
14:05:00 | 17
Q. Okay. Are there any other current officers
14:08:26 |\n| 18 U.S. Trustee and the other attorney related.
14:05:05 | 18 and directors of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,
14:08:50 |\n| Q. Areyoufamiliarwiththetermeventsof
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14:05:10 | 19 besides you and Qiang Guo?
14:08:57 |\n| 20 default?
14:05: 14 | 20
A. No.
14:09:03 |\n| A. You mean in this DIP loan agreement?
14:05:15
21 | Only me and him.
14:09:03
21 |\n| Q. Yes, ma'am.
14:05:21
22 | 22
Q. Okay. Am I right that there was a time,
14:09:05 |\n| A. I didn't pay attention about that.
14:05:22
23 | 23 a few months in 2020, when you were replaced as
14:09: 14 |\n| Q. Do you know what any of the events of
24
14:05:25 | 24 president by someone named Daniel Podhaskie,
14:09:23 |\n| 25 default that are in this DIP loan agreement are?
14:05:29 | 25 P-o-d-h-a-s-k-i-e? Is that right?
14:09:27 |\n| Page 146 | Page 148 |\n| | |\n| I
A. Can I have, like, interpreter help me on
14:05:32 | A. Correct.
14:09:37
I |\n| 2 this? Because it is about this DIP loan details.
14:05:40 | Q. It looks like Mr. Podhaskie was in those
2
14:09:38 |\n| 3
Q. Ofcourse. Ofcourse.
14:05:44 | 3 roles for a little less than two months.
14:09:49 |\n| | |\n| 4
MR. HARBACH: I'll repeat it for
14:05:46
5 Ms. Johnston.
14:05:49 | 4
Does that sound about right to you?
14:09:53
5
A. Yes.
14:09:55 |\n| | 6
Q. Okay. And why was it that he replaced you
14:09: 58 |\n| 6 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:05:51 | |\n| Q. Doyouknowwhatanyoftheeventsof
7
14:05:51 | 7 for those couple of months?
14:10:02 |\n| 8 default in this DIP loan agreement are?
14:05:53 | 8
A. Because I -- I was -- I had personal issue
14:10:04 |\n| 9
THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
14:05:53 | 9 by then, which I couldn't perform as my job as duty.
14: 10: 13 |\n| THEWITNESS:Idon'trecall.
14:06:10
10 | Q. I see.
14:10:20
10 |\n| II BY MR. HARBACH:
14:06:10 | And when that personal issue was resolved,
14: 10:21
11 |\n| Q. Youdon'trecalloryoudon'tknow?
14:06:10
12 | 12 youreturned--
14:10:25 |\n| A. I don't recall.
14:06:15
13 | A. That's right.
14:10:28
13 |\n| 14
Q. Do you know who Arethusa Forsyth is?
14:06:17 | 14
Q. -- is that right?
14: 10:29 |\n| 15 A-r-e-t-h-u-s-a, last name F, like Frank,
14:06:50 | A. Yes. That's right.
14:10:30
15 |\n| 16 o-r-s-y-t-h.
14:06:58 | 16
Q. Okay. Did you have a briefing with
14: 10:31 |\n| 17
Do you know who that person is?
14:07:00 | 17 Mr.Podhaskiewhenyoucamebackonthejob?
14:10:50 |\n| A. This is attorney retained by Mr. Qiang Guo
14:07:04
18 | 18
A. I don't recall.
14:10:59 |\n| 19 work on this DIP loan.
14:07:09 | 19
Q. Okay. Do you recall, in any conversations
14: 11 :02 |\n| 20
Q. Did you have any -- withdrawn.
14:07:10 | 20 with Mr. Podhaskie, whether he was in contact with
14:11:08 |\n| Do you know how Attorney Forsyth is being
14:07: 16
21 | 21 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
14:11:14 |\n| 22 paid?
14:07:28 | 22
A. No.
14:11:19 |\n| A. I'm sorry.
14:07:29
23 | I don't recall. We just handed over, like,
23
14: 11:22 |\n| 24
Interpreter, can I have some support?
14:07:30
THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
14:07:30
25 | 24 the daily operation work. I mean, I don't recall
14: 11 :31
25 anything more than that.
14: 11:35 |\n\n38 (Pages 146 - 149)\n\n| | Q. To your knowledge, is Mr. Podhaskie
14:11:36 | 1
A. Less than two years ago.
14: 14:53 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 currently, as of today, working for Golden Spring
14:11:45 | 2
Q. Okay.
14:15:05 |\n| | 3 (New York)?
14:11:48 | A. Less than -- closer to two years.
3
14:15:11 |\n| 4 | A. No.
14:11:48 | 4
Q. Approximately two years ago?
14:15:14 |\n| 5 | Q. Who is the current general counsel of
14: 11:50 | 5
A. Yes.
14:15:17 |\n| | 6 Golden Spring (New York)?
14: 11 :56 | 6
About two years ago. A little more or less. 14:15:18 |\n| 7 | MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object to that
14:12:00 | Q. Okay. And -- and were you involved in the
7
14:15:22 |\n| | 8 question, and I have been advised for matters of
14:12:02 | 8 decision to hire this person?
14: 15:28 |\n| | 9 personal security that general counsel does not wish
14: 12:09 | 9
A. Yes.
14:15:30 |\n| | 10 to disclose general counsel's identity.
14:12:12 | 10
I make all the decision about the
14:15:35 |\n| II | MR.HARBACH: Okay. Ithinklcanwork
14:12:17 | 11 recruitment as the president of the company.
14:15:38 |\n| | 12 around it, Scott. Just don't hesitate to interrupt
14:12: 19 | Q. How many other people did you interview for
12
14:15:41 |\n| | 13 if -- if you want to, but I'm going to try and work
14:12:23 | 13 that position?
14:15:45 |\n| | 14 around that.
14:12:26 | 14
A. Wow. I mean, when I hire people, I'm pretty 14: 15:47 |\n| 15 | Okay?
14: 12:27 | 15 much, if! can say, picky; so I did interview, like,
14:15:56 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN: Okay.
14:12:27 | 16 several candidates.
14: 16:02 |\n| | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
14: 12:27 | 17
Q. Okay. Do you know where the person who is
14:16:04 |\n| 18 | Q. Ms. Wang, your lawyer doesn't want you to
14:12:28 | 18 currently the general counsel worked immediately
14:16:09 |\n| | 19 say the name, but do you know who the current general 14: 12:31 | 19 before coming to Golden Spring?
14:16:13 |\n| | 20 counsel of Golden Spring (New York) is?
14:12:35 | A. Can you please repeat again?
20
14:16:20 |\n| 21 | A. Yes, I know.
14:12:37 | 21
Q. Yes.
14:16:23 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. And do you communicate with that
14:12:39 | 22
A. Sorry.
14:16:24 |\n| | 23 person?
14: 12:42 | Q. The -- the person who is general counsel of 14: 16:25
23 |\n| 24 | A. Yes, we do.
14: 12:46 | 24 Golden Spring, who you said you were involved in
14: 16:28 |\n| 25 | Q. How regularly? How often do you communicate 14:12:49 | 25 hiring, where did that person work immediately before 14:16:31 |\n| | Page 150 | Page 152 |\n| | | |\n| | 1 with that person?
14:12:52 | 1 Golden Spring, if you know?
14:16:36 |\n| 2 | A. We communicated -- it is not a daily basis,
14:12:53 | A. Idoknow,butldon'tfeelcomfortableto
2
14:16:41 |\n| | 3 but several times per week.
14:13:03 | 3 give any details about my current employee --
14:16:44 |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. I find it interesting that you have
14:13:06 | Q. Okay.
14:16:47
4 |\n| | 5 a clear recollection of how often you speak with the
14: 13: 13 | 5
A. -- and including previous employer.
14:16:48 |\n| | 6 general counsel, but no recollection with any clarity 14: 13: 18 | Q. How about this?
6
14:16:51 |\n| | 7 of how often you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
14:13:24 | 7
A. That safety reason again.
14:16:52 |\n| 8 | Can you explain that?
14:13:28 | 8
Q. Give me -- give me the -- give me the first
14:16:54 |\n| 9 | A. Yes, sir.
14:13:31 | 9 letter of the company where the general counsel
14:16:56 |\n| 10 | Because I'm the president of the
14:13:33 | 10 worked before coming to Golden Spring.
14:16:59 |\n| | II Golden Spring, and that is my job to communicate with 14:13:35 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. That's -- that is
11
14:17:02 |\n| | 12 my employee, including my general counsel and the
14:13:38 | 12 the -- it is the same issue.
14: 17:04 |\n| | 13 rest of our employees; so that is my job. I am being 14: 13:42 | MR. HARBACH: Because of the first letter?
13
14: 17:10 |\n| | 14 paid to do that; so Mr. Ho Wan Kwok-- I mean, we
14:13:46 | 14
MR. ROSEN: We are not playing, you know,
14:17:12 |\n| | 15 don't communicate on a regular basis or any -- kind
14: 13 :53 | 15 twenty questions here. David, c'mon.
14:17: 14 |\n| | 16 of like as you said, a regular basis. We just
14:13:56 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
14: 17:24 |\n| | 17 communicate as we need. I mean, he is not employee;
14: 13:59 | 17
Q. Was the general counsel's prior employer --
14: 17:24 |\n| | 18 right?
14:14:04 | 18 was the identity of the general counsel's prior
14:17:31 |\n| 19 | And then I don't report to him; so why
14: 14:04 | 19 employer a factor in your decision to hire that
14:17:39 |\n| | 20 should I, you know, keep that rhythm and then to talk 14: 14:07 | 20 person?
14:17:44 |\n| | 21 with someone who is not in my job work?
14:14:10 | A. Well, I don't understand your question, sir.
21
14:17:44 |\n| 22 | Q. Just one moment, please. Hang on one
14:14:14 | Can I ask for the interpreter to help me?
22
14:17:46 |\n| | 23 second.
14: 14:24 | 23 Sorry.
14: 17:49 |\n| 24 | When was the current general counsel of
14: 14:49 | 24
Q. No problem.
14:17:51 |\n| | 25 Golden Spring hired?
14: 14:52
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MR. HARBACH: Here we go, Ms. Johnston.
14:17:52
Page 153 |\n\n39 (Pages 150 - 153)\n\n| 1 BY MR. HARBACH: | 1 Golden Spring (New York), apart from the general |\n|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 14:17:55 | 14:21:00 |\n| Q. Is the -- was the identity of the general
14:17:55
2 | 2 counsel?
14:21:03 |\n| 3 counsel's provider employer a factor in your decision 14: 17:58 | 3
A. Which time period you are asking, sir?
14:21:04 |\n| 4 to hire that person?
14:18:05 | Q. Currently.
14:21: 10
4 |\n| 5 | A. No. |\n| THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.) | 14:21: 12 |\n| 14: 18:24 | 5 |\n| THE WITNESS: When I interview and hire | 6 |\n| 14: 18:31 | Q. How many employees does Golden Spring |\n| 6 | 14:21:14 |\n| 7 people, like the previous employer before me, that | 7 (New York) Limited currently have? |\n| 14: 18:33 | 14:21:26 |\n| 8 does matter also. And, obviously, you know, I want
14:18:40 | 8
MR. ROSEN: I believe that information has
14:21:34 |\n| 9 to hire the high quality oftalent; right? | 9 been previously provided. And I believe, David, you |\n| 14:18:44 | 14:21:36 |\n| Where they are from, that do matter. And,
14: 18:48
10 | 10 are aware of the sensitivity to the employee issue.
14:21:41 |\n| II plus, I still care about, like, the loyalty with the | 11 I -- I don't think we have an objection to answering |\n| 14:18:51 | 14:21:45 |\n| 12 previous job. You already--! don't like, you know, 14:18:54 | 12 how many employees there are, but I would ask you
14:21:50 |\n| 13 employee or the candidate jumping too often from job | 13 not -- not to get into any personal or identifying |\n| 14: 18: 59 | 14:21:54 |\n| 14 to job. But besides that, you know, I do care about, 14: 19:04 | 14 information with respect to that.
14:21:57 |\n| 15 like, the interview --the feeling of the interview;
14: 19:09 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. I -- !--thank you,
14:22:00
15 |\n| 16 right? | 16 Scott. |\n| 14:19:11 | 14:22:02 |\n| 17 | I do understand the position of |\n| The understanding and the communication and | 17 |\n| 14:19:12 | 14:22:04 |\n| 18 the people skill, of course the capability of | 18 Golden Spring (New York) as had been represented to |\n| 14: 19:14 | 14:22:06 |\n| 19 professional, that all matters; so to answer your | 19 us by counsel and repeated by counsel for the debtor |\n| 14:19:17 | 14:22:09 |\n| 20 question, the previous employer does matter, but it | 20 in -- in a previous proceeding; so I will respect |\n| 14:19:20 | 14:22: 14 |\n| 21 is not only the -- only one reason for me to make | 21 your request for purposes of this deposition while |\n| 14: 19:23 | 14:22:22 |\n| 22 a decision to send out the offer. | 22 noting that we disagree strongly with the -- the |\n| 14: 19:27 | 14:22:25 |\n| 23 BY MR. HARBACH: | 23 basis of it. |\n| 14:19:31 | 14:22:29 |\n| 24
Q. Did you contact this general counsel's
14:19:31 | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:22:33 |\n| 25 previous employer during the hiring process?
14:19:34 | 25
Q. So for the moment, Ms. Wang, my question is
14:22:33 |\n| Page 154 | Page 156 |\n| | |\n| I
A. I remember my HR department by then, they
14:19:42 | I just the number of employees.
14:22:36 |\n| 2 conducted the background check and reference check.
14: 19:47 | 2
How many employees currently work at
14:22:38 |\n| 3 I didn't do that by myself. I have a company do | 3 Golden Spring (New York) Limited? |\n| 14: 19:51 | 14:22:43 |\n| 4 that. | 4 |\n| 14:19:54 | A. Oh, currently I believe it is about fourteen 14:22:45 |\n| Q. So you did--you, personally, did not speak 14:19:54 | 5 ofthem, including myself. |\n| 5 | 14:22:53 |\n| 6 to anyone at this person's prior employer; correct?
14: 19:57 | 6
Q. Including you?
14:22:55 |\n| A. I mean, I manage the entire, like, employee. | 7 |\n| 14:20:03 | A. Yes. |\n| 7 | 14:22:58 |\n| 8 I mean, as the president of the company, my
14:20:06 | Q. Does that also include Mr. Qiang Guo? Or
8
14:22:58 |\n| 9 understanding is you are the -- the HR department | 9 no? |\n| 14:20:09 | 14:23 :04 |\n| 10 will do that for me; right?
14:20:12 | 10
A. No.
14:23:05 |\n| II | Q. Okay. So you and the general counsel -- |\n| Q. You know, Ms. Wang, it is a simple question. | 14:23:05 |\n| 14:20:14 | 11 |\n| 12 I'm not suggesting you should have. I'm just asking | 12 does that include that person? |\n| 14:20:17 | 14:23:10 |\n| 13 whether you did.
14:20:20 | 13
A. Correct.
14:23:13 |\n| 14 | 14 |\n| A. No, I didn't. | Q. Okay. So you, the general counsel, and |\n| 14:20:21 | 14:23:14 |\n| Q. Okay.
14:20:23
15 | 15 twelve other people?
14:23:21 |\n| A. My HR department did that, uh-huh. | 16 |\n| 14:20:24 | A. Yes. |\n| 16 | 14:23:23 |\n| Q. Okay. Did you personally conduct any of the 14:20:27
17 | Q. Do all of those people work at the family
17
14:23:23 |\n| 18 reference calls for this person? | 18 office? |\n| 14:20:30 | 14:23:32 |\n| A. No. | 19 |\n| 14:20:32 | MR. ROSEN: I object to this. The -- there |\n| 19 | 14:23:36 |\n| 20
I didn't do that. But my -- my -- in
14:20:35 | 20 are issues of physical security that I have been
14:23:38 |\n| | |\n| 21 person, my -- personally. | 21 alerted to. And if-- if -- if you would like, |\n| 14:20:40 | 14:23:41 |\n| 22
Q. But your understanding is that somebody in
14:20:43 | 22 David, I do have a statement from the Golden Spring
14:23:47 |\n| 23 your HR department did? | 23 security team that I could read into the record. |\n| 14:20:44 | 14:23:50 |\n| 24
A. Correct.
14:20:46
Q. Are there any other inhouse lawyers for
14:20:47
25 | 24 If -- if -- if you think it is appropriate. But --
14:23:54
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MR. HARBACH: I -- I appreciate that, Scott. 14:23:59 |\n\n**40 (Pages 154 - 157)**\n\n| 1 I mean, I -- as I said before, we -- we understand
14:24:02 | A. He advised me he will take care of that.
1
14:27:15 |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 the position that you are taking. And if your
14:24:05 | Q. Did he tell you where the money was coming
14:27: 18
2 |\n| 3 position is whether all employees work in the same
14:24:08 | 3 from?
14:27:20 |\n| 4 location presents a security risk such that you are
14:24:13 | A. So far not yet. But he said he will take
14:27:21
4 |\n| 5 going to direct the witness not to answer, that is
14:24:16 | 5 care of that, as he always does.
14:27:26 |\n| 6 okay. I'll just note for the record that we -- we
14:24: 19 | 6
Q. Did you ask him where the money was coming
14:27:27 |\n| 7 disagree and reserve the right to take it up with the 14:24:22 | 7 from?
14:27:30 |\n| 8 Judge, like we do just about all of the objections
14:24:26 | A. I didn't.
8
14:27:31 |\n| 9 that have been made today. But -- but -- but that is 14:24:30 | 9
Q. Okay.
14:27:37 |\n| 10 sufficient for present purposes, if that is okay with 14:24:34 | A. He said he will take care of that.
10
14:27:39 |\n| 11 you.
14:24:36 | Q. No.
14:27:40
11 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Yes.
14:24:37
12 | I -- I -- I understand that he said he will
14:27:41
12 |\n| That -- that is fine.
14:24:38
13 | 13 take care of it. I'm just asking if you know where
14:27:43 |\n| 14
MR. HARBACH: Okay.
14:24:40 | 14 the money was coming from, and-- and I think I have
14:27:46 |\n| 15 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:24:41 | 15 got the answer.
14:27:49 |\n| 16
Q. Does Golden Spring -- as far as -- as you
14:24:52 | 16
A. We have trust between each other for so many 14:27:51 |\n| 17 are concerned, Ms. Wang, does Golden Spring
14:24:54 | 17 years. When -- as the owner of the company, he said
14:27:54 |\n| 18 (New York) Limited expect to be repaid for the DIP
14:24:59 | 18 he will take care of that, and I will just let him do 14:27:57 |\n| 19 loan?
14:25:05 | 19 his part. I am doing my part; right? So
14:28:01 |\n| 20
A. It is a loan, yes. Golden Spring is going
14:25:06 | 20
Q. Listen, that -- that is fine. But you have
14:28:05 |\n| 21 to expect to be repaid.
14:25:12 | 21 been tendered as the person at Golden Spring
14:28:07 |\n| 22
Q. We were speaking earlier about bank accounts 14:25:14 | 22 (New York) Limited with knowledge about all these
14:28:11 |\n| 23 and whatnot, and I'm -- and I'm not intending to
14:25:30 | 23 topics that we have noticed. One of the topics is
14:28: 14 |\n| 24 reopen that can of worms, but I am going to ask this
14:25:33 | 24 the source of funds used by Golden Spring to finance
14:28:17 |\n| 25 precise question.
14:25:38 | 25 the DIP loan agreement. And so I -- I just asked you 14:28:21 |\n| Page 158 | Page 160 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| What is the source of the moneys that will
I
14:25:38 | I if you know, and so we are clear, your answer is you
14:28:26 |\n| 2 fund the DIP loan if it is approved?
14:25 :41 | 2 don't know, but Qiang Guo said he would take care of 14:28:31 |\n| 3
A. And it will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo
14:25:43 | 3 it, and that's enough for you.
14:28:35 |\n| 4 directly.
14:25:53 | 4
MR. ROSEN: That's -- objection. That
14:28:38 |\n| Q. What is the source of the moneys that will
5
14:25:53 | 5 mischaracterizes the testimony.
14:28:40 |\n| 6 fund the DIP loan ifit is approved?
14:25:58 | MR. HARBACH: Oh, Scott, how does that
14:28:42
6 |\n| A. It will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo
7
14:26:06 | 7 mischaracterize the testimony?
14:28:44 |\n| 8 directly.
14:26:08 | 8
MR. ROSEN: Because she also testified that
14:28:45 |\n| Q. Do you know where the money will come from?
14:26:08
9 | 9 it could be from his wealth.
14:28:47 |\n| 10
A. I was not advised it yet, but Mr. Qiang Guo
14:26: 13 | 10 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:28:47 |\n| 11 said that he will take care of that, as he always do. 14:26:19 | Q. Okay. So did he -- did he say that? My
14:28:50
11 |\n| Q. So you are president and treasurer of
14:26:22
12 | 12 question is did he say that to you? Did he say that
14:28:57 |\n| 13 Golden Spring. You are here testifying today about
14:26:25 | 13 I am -- I'm going to take care of it from my wealth?
14:28:59 |\n| 14 a DIP loan, as I have been reminded countless times.
14:26:29 | 14 Is that what he said?
14:29:02 |\n| 15 And your testimony is that you do not know where the
14:26:35 | A. Correct.
14:29:09
15 |\n| 16 money to fund the DIP loan is coming from.
14:26:39 | 16
Q. He said that to you?
14:29:09 |\n| Have I got that right?
14:26:45
17 | 17
A. Yes.
14:29:12 |\n| 18
MR. ROSEN: Objection. That
14:26:47 | 18
As always, we chat. He briefed me. He
14:29: 13 |\n| 19 mischaracterizes the witness' testimony.
14:26:48 | 19 said, I will take care of that. You don't worry.
14:29: 17 |\n| 20
You can answer the question.
14:26:55 | 20 And I have place to rent. My understanding, after so 14:29:20 |\n| THE WITNESS: It will be arranged by
14:26:56
21 | 21 many years, that will come from his wealth.
14:29:23 |\n| 22 Mr. Qiang Guo directly from his or -- his wealth, in
14:26:58 | 22
Q. Okay. So he did not say to you, I will take 14:29:26 |\n| 23 my understanding, as always we do.
14:27:06 | 23 care of it from my money. He just said, I will take
14:29:29 |\n| 24 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:27:10
Q. Did he tell you that?
14:27:11
25 | 24 care ofit, and based on your experience with him
14:29:34
25 over the years, you understood that to mean from his
14:29:39 |\n\n41 (Pages 158 - 161)\n\n| 1 wealth.
14:29:42 | Q. Okay. And do those bylaws say anything
14:33:52 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| Have I got that right?
14:29:43
2 | 2 about decisions of the company and how they are to be 14:33:56 |\n| A. So you remind me, like, he said I have it.
14:29:45
3 | 3 made?
14:34:04 |\n| 4 I will take care of that. That's his, as we said,
14:29:51 | A. Yes.
14:34:04
4 |\n| 5 quote to quote. He said that to me. In my
14:29:55 | Q. Okay. And do those bylaws include rules
14:34:05
5 |\n| 6 understanding, that will come from his -- his wealth. 14:29:58 | 6 about how the -- the president and treasurer are to
14:34: 10 |\n| 7
Q. Okay. And when was this conversation?
14:30:00 | 7 be involved?
14:34:13 |\n| 8
A. That was yesterday also.
14:30:03 | A. Yes.
14:34:14
8 |\n| 9
Q. Was yesterday the -- the first time you
14:30:06 | 9
Q. Okay. And as far as you are aware,
14:34: 16 |\n| 10 learned what the source of the funds used to finance
14:30:17 | 10 Golden Spring has operated within the constraints of 14:34:22 |\n| 11 the DIP loan agreement were coming from?
14:30:24 | |\n| | 11 those bylaws properly as long as you have been there? 14:34:27 |\n| 12
A. There was a -- in order to prep the
14:30:30 | A. What do you mean, properly, sir?
12
14:34:31 |\n| 13 deposition today, like, he went through this DIP loan 14:30:37 | Q. Well, have they-- while you have been at
14:34:34
13 |\n| 14 arrangement with me a little bit.
14:30:41 | 14 Golden Spring (New York), have the rules been
14:34:38 |\n| Q. Okay.
14:30:43
15 | 15 followed as laid out in the bylaws?
14:34:41 |\n| A. Yeah. He mentioned to me, I have it.
14:30:44
16 | A. I mean, we are family office. I mean, we're 14:34:44
16 |\n| 17 I will take care of that --
14:30:46 | 17 private company and family office. I work for
14:34:48 |\n| 18
Q. All right.
14:30:48 | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo, himself, for my entire career; so
14:34:53 |\n| 19
14:30:49
A. -- you know, as a conversation. | 19 like, he authorized me to make a decision.
14:35:02 |\n| 20
Q. Fair enough.
14:30:50 | 20 I communicated with him. I mean, we don't have
14:35:06 |\n| My only question for you is when he told you 14: 30: 51
21 | 21 issue. If there is missing any paperwork, it doesn't 14:35:08 |\n| 22 yesterday, I have it. I'll take care of it, is that
14:30: 54 | 22 mean that anybody purposely do anything wrong; so we
14:35: 11 |\n| 23 the first time you learned what the source of the DIP 14:30:58 | 23 are a family office.
14:35: 14 |\n| 24 loan funds would be?
14:31:03 | 24
Q. I'm not suggesting anything about
14:35:16 |\n| A. That is the time I heard from him because
14:31:05
25 | 25 wrongdoing, certainly not on purpose. I asked you if 14:35:19 |\n| Page 162 | Page 164 |\n| 1 I need to prep the deposition today. But I know he
14:31: 11 | 1 the company had bylaws. You said yes.
14:35:25 |\n| 2 has it for so many years; so it is not, like, the
14:31: 15 | 2
My next question is has the company abided
14:35:27 |\n| 3 first time -- right? -- I got -- oh, you have money.
14:31 :20 | 3 by the bylaws as long as you have been there, as far
14:35:31 |\n| 4 It is not like that way. I know he had it.
14:31:23 | 4 as you know?
14:35:35 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 5
Q. Oh, I got it. I got you. And, believe me,
14:31:25 | 5
MR. ROSEN: Objection. That's -- that is --
14:35:37 |\n| 6 I am not trying to suggest that yesterday was the
14:31 :28 | 6 that is very broad.
14:35:37 |\n| 7 first day you learned he had money. Not at all.
14:31:31 | What particular aspect of the bylaws are you 14:35:41
7 |\n| 8 I get that.
14:31:35 | 8 looking for?
14:35:44 |\n| 9
What I'm -- what I'm trying to focus on is
14:31:36 | 9
MR. HARBACH: Well, I tried to remain
14:35:45 |\n| 10 was yesterday the first day that you learned that the 14:31:38 | 10 focused on decision making and the powers of the
14:35:47 |\n| II money that would fund the DIP loan was going to come
14:31:44 | 11 president and treasurer; so I guess I'll ask it that
14:35:50 |\n| 12 from Qiang Guo?
14:31:47 | 12 way.
14:35:55 |\n| A. That was the time I heard from him, yes.
14:31: 52
13 | 13 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:35:55 |\n| 14
Q. Okay. What is your understanding as to how
14:31:55 | 14
Q. Have -- have the bylaws about the authority
14:35:55 |\n| 15 the DIP loan is going to be repaid? If you know.
14:32:04 | 15 and power of the president and the treasurer been
14:35:58 |\n| A. I don't know.
14:32:11
16 | 16 respected since you have been at Golden Spring?
14:36:04 |\n| 17
Q. Okay. Give me ten seconds, folks, please.
14:32:13 | 17
MR. ROSEN: Objection. The bylaws are not
14:36:07 |\n| 18 Excuse me.
14:32:31 | 18 in the record. It-- it is -- the question is -- is
14:36:09 |\n| Okay. Thanks, everybody.
14:33:24
19 | 19 hopelessly vague.
14:36: 13 |\n| 20
Subject change.
14:33:29 | 20
But you can answer.
14:36: 15 |\n| Ms. Wang, does -- does Golden Spring
14:33:37
21 | THE WITNESS: Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we
14:36:18
21 |\n| 22 (New York) Limited have any kind of company bylaws | 14:33:45 22 manage Golden Spring (New York) Limited based on our
14:36:2\\$ |\n| 23 that you know of?
14:33:49 | 23 aligned -- aligned-- our aligned agreement and
14:36:26 |\n| 24
A. Yes.
14:33:50 | 24 properauthorization.
14:36:31 |\n| 25
We do have bylaws.
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14:36:32 | Q. Okay. So this is what I was asking you
14:41:46 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. Okay. Let me ask a different question.
14:36:35 | 2 about a minute ago. In paragraph three, it says the
14:41:52 |\n| 3 | When you were appointed as president,
14:36:40 | 3 date of filing of the corporation's original
14:41:56 |\n| | 4 secretary, treasurer of Golden Spring (New York) in
14:36:47 | 4 certificate of incorporation in Delaware was
14:42:00 |\n| | 5 the spring of 2018 -- that's -- so that is the time
14:36:52 | 5 03/10/2015.
14:42:04 |\n| | 6 I'm focusing on -- were you aware that the company's
14:36:57 | 6
Do you see that?
14:42:07 |\n| | 7 charter had been inoperative and void since March I
14:37:01 | A. Yes.
14:42:08
7 |\n| | 8 of2017?
14:37:07 | Q. So that March 10th of 2015 was the --
14:42: 13
8 |\n| 9 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. Assumes facts not on 14:37: 10 | 9 apparently the date of incorporation of Golden Spring 14:42: 16 |\n| | 10 the record.
14:37:13 | 10 (New York) Limited.
14:42:20 |\n| 11 | THE WITNESS: I don't recall.
14:37:15 | And then ifyou look down at paragraph five, 14:42:21
11 |\n| | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:37:16 | 12 it says:
14:42:25 |\n| 13 | Q. Do you recall ever executing a revival --
14:37: 18 | 13
\"The corporation was duly organized and
14:42:26 |\n| | 14 a certificate of revival on behalf of Golden Spring
14:37:23 | 14
carried on the business authorized by its
14:42:29 |\n| | 15 (New York) Limited to correct that problem?
14:37:27 | charter until the first day of March AD 2017, 14:42:32
15 |\n| 16 | A. I don't recall. If you have documents, you
14:37:33 | 16
at which time its charter became inoperative 14:42:41 |\n| | 14:37:36
17 can remind me, sir. | and void for nonpayment of taxes and/or
17
14:42:44 |\n| 18 | Q. Give me just one second.
14:37:38 | 18
failure to file a complete annual report and 14:42:49 |\n| 19 | Okay. I think we're going to put up another 14:39: 17 | the certificate of revival is filed by
19
14:42:54 |\n| | 20 exhibit here real quick that might help you remember. 14:39:21 | authority of the duly elected directors of
20
14:42:56 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. Itis 808. Yeah. It
14:39:30 | 21
the corporation in accordance with the laws
14:43:00 |\n| | 22 is 808.
14:39:40 | of the state of Delaware.\"
22
14:43:04 |\n| 23 | (Deposition Exhibit Number 5
14:39:43 | 23
Were you able to follow along with me while
14:43:07 |\n| 24 | was marked for identification.)
14:39:46 | 24 I read that?
14:43:09 |\n| 25 | MR. HARBACH: Thanks for your patience.
14:39:46 | 25
A. Yes.
14:43:10 |\n| | Page 166 | Page 168 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | I I think we have got the document here.
14:39:49 | Q. Okay. So now does this refresh your
14:43: 11
I |\n| 2 | THE WITNESS: Sorry.
14:40:02 | 2 recollection about whether when you were hired at
14:43:19 |\n| 3 | Sir, can we have a break after this
14:40:05 | 3 Golden Spring in the spring of 2018 the charter had
14:43:23 |\n| | 4 document?
14:40:07 | 4 been made inoperative and void?
14:43:32 |\n| | 5 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:40:08 | 5
A. So what is your question, sir? Are you
14:43 :43 |\n| 6 | Q. Sure.
14:40:08 | 6 expecting me to reply?
14:43 :46 |\n| 7 | A. Thank you.
14:40:09 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
14:43:47
7 |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. So what is fixing to come through is
14:40:18 | Before I dug up this document, when I asked
14:43:48
8 |\n| | 9 Exhibit 5. There we go.
14:40:21 | 9 you that same question, you said I don't remember or
14:43:52 |\n| 10 | All right. I had myself muted. I'm sorry.
14:41:02 | 10 I don't recall. And you said to me, if you have any
14:43:56 |\n| 11 | Could you please go to the last page of
14:41:04 | 11 documents, maybe that could help me; so I'm providing 14:44:00 |\n| | 12 Exhibit 5.
14:41:07 | 12 you a document to try and help you.
14:44:04 |\n| 13 | A. (Witness complies.)
14:41:08 | And the question is whether seeing this
14:44:09
13 |\n| 14 | Yes. I'm here.
14:41:09 | 14 document refreshes your recollection about whether at 14:44: 11 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay. You see how this one is captioned
14:41:10 | 15 the time you assumed your duties at Golden Spring
14:44:15 |\n| | 16 state of Delaware, certificate for revival of
14:41:14 | 16 (New York) in the spring of2018 the company, in
14:44:21 |\n| | 17 charter?
14:41: 18 | 17 fact, had become inoperative -- correction.
14:44:27 |\n| 18 | A. Yes.
14:41:18 | The charter of the company had become
18
14:44:30 |\n| 19 | Q. And there is a signature at the bottom.
14:41: 19 | 19 inoperative and void.
14:44:33 |\n| 20 | Is that yours?
14:41 :23 | 20
A. So you are asking me why? Or what is your
14:44:41 |\n| 21 | A. Yes.
14:41:24 | 21 question, sir? Why or --
14:44:45 |\n| 22 | Q. And the very bottom right hand of the page
14:41 :27 | 22
Q. I'm asking whether this is, in fact, true
14:44:48 |\n| | 23 it says -- there is a stamp there that says filed
14:41:30 | 23 that at the time you were hired in the spring of
14:44:54 |\n| 25 | 24 ten -- there is a time of!0:23: 18, I think it says.
14:41:37
A. Yes.
14:41:46 | 24 2018 -- okay? -- whether at that time the charter of 14:44:58
25 Golden Spring (New York) Limited was inoperative and
14:45 :06 |\n\n43 (Pages 166 - 169)\n\n| | 1 void.
14:45:12 | You recall him being a lawyer at
14:48:22 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. The -- the document
14:45: 12 | 2 Williams & Connolly; is that right?
14:48:25 |\n| | 3 speaks for itself.
14:45: 14 | A. He is attorney of William Connolly, yes.
3
14:48:28 |\n| 4 | MR. HARBACH: It-- it does, indeed, Scott.
14:45:16 | Q. Okay. And did you say-- make sure I heard
4
14:48:31 |\n| | 5 And that is quite fair.
14:45:19 | 5 you correctly.
14:48:34 |\n| 6 | Unfortunately, the history of this
14:45:21 | Did you say that -- that he and
14:48:34
6 |\n| | 7 litigation is that sometimes documents are challenged 14:45:23 | 7 Williams & Connolly represented Qiang Guo?
14:48:38 |\n| | 8 as being inauthentic and forgeries when they are
14:45 :26 | 8
A. In these .pdf -- in these exhibit,
14:48:41 |\n| | 9 plainly not; so I'm afraid I have to ask the
14:45 :31 | 9 William Connolly, Jerry Shulman -- Jerry represents
14:48:51 |\n| | 10 question.
14:45:34 | 10 Golden Spring Limited also.
14:48:56 |\n| II | MR. ROSEN: You can answer the question.
14:45:34 | Q. Okay. Did-- did Mr. Shulman represent
14:48:58
11 |\n| 12 | THE WITNESS: Sir, I don't -- I don't know
14:45:36 | 12 Qiang Guo?
14:49:01 |\n| | 13 what happened before I was officially hired, but if
14:45:39 | 13
A. I --
14:49:02 |\n| | 14 you read back the entire Golden Spring, including,
14:45:45 | 14
Q. Because I believe that is what you said
14:49:06 |\n| | 15 I believe, the corporation, was set up by attorney
14:45:49 | 15 a few minutes ago. l'mjusttryingtomake sure
14:49:08 |\n| | 16 from William Connolly. The attorney's name is
14:45:52 | 16 I heard you correctly.
14:49:11 |\n| | 17 addressed on page three, Jerry L. Shulman; so
14:45:58 | 17
A. I believe so.
14:49:13 |\n| | | Q. Okay. To your knowledge, did Mr. Shulman of 14:49:14 |\n| | 18 I know -- I got to know -- Jerry was Mr. Qiang Guo's
14:46:03
19 attorney. And William Connolly was, like, a-- what
14:46:07 | 18
19 Williams & Connolly represent Ho Wan Kwok?
14:49:19 |\n| | | |\n| | 20 is technically, like, the Golden Spring charters,
14:46:11
21 like, the documentation, you know, all the paperwork; 14:46: 17 | 20
A. I don't know that.
14:49:22
Q. Okay. The -- the document that is on the
21
14:49:25 |\n| | 22 so the answer to you was, like, when I was hired --
14:46:20 | 22 screen there says that the reason the charter became
14:49:31 |\n| | 23 of course, I don't know what happened before me, but, 14:46:25 | 23 inoperative and void was for nonpayment of taxes
14:49:37 |\n| | 24 obviously, Jerry Shulman, the attorney by then was --
14:46:28 | 24 and/or failure to file a complete annual report.
14:49:42 |\n| | 25 maintained the -- the record here or fix the record
14:46:32 | Do you know which of those reasons, or both
25
14:49:50 |\n| | Page 170 | Page 172 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | I somehow, which I am not aware of that before me.
14:46:36 | I reasons, were why the charter of Golden Spring became 14:49:55 |\n| | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:46:41 | 2 inoperative and void?
14:50:03 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. Just a moment.
14:46:42 | 3
A. As I said, before me, what happened I don't
14:50:05 |\n| 4 | Okay. We thought we were having a fire
14:46: 50 | 4 know. But since I was appointed, Golden Spring never 14:50:14 |\n| | 5 drill in our building, but it is only a test. Sorry
14:46: 53 | 5 has this problem.
14:50:20 |\n| | 6 for the noise.
14:46:56 | 6
Q. Okay. Well, it apparently had the problem
14:50:21 |\n| 7 | I understood what you said, Ms. Wang.
14:47:00 | 7 for six months after you were appointed because the
14:50:24 |\n| | 8 You--you signed this document, and it was filed in
14:47:03 | 8 certificate of revival wasn't filed until October; so 14:50:28 |\n| | 9 Delaware in October of 2018.
14:47: 12 | 9 I'll ask the same question. And maybe you don't
14:50:35 |\n| 10 | Do you remember signing it?
14:47: 18 | 10 know. It is okay if you don't know, but all I can do 14:50:37 |\n| 11 | A I don't recall. Too many years ago.
14:47:22 | 11 is ask.
14:50:40 |\n| 12 | Q. I gather, from what you said a moment ago,
14:47:24 | 12
Do you know what the reason was why the
14:50:41 |\n| | 13 that ifl were to ask you how you learned that the
14:47:29 | 13 charter became inoperative and void?
14:50:45 |\n| | 14 charter of Golden Spring had become inoperative and
14:47:38 | 14
A. I don't know the reason, but I am not able
14:50:53 |\n| | 15 void, you would say it was -- it was from the
14:47:41 | 15 to fix everything that happened before me from day
14:50:56 |\n| | 16 attorney you mentioned; is that right?
14:47:45 | 16 one I was appointed; right?
14:51:00 |\n| 17 | A I read this from the exhibit you present to
14:47:50 | 17
So the six months, that is a fair time. But 14:51:02 |\n| | 18 me. And the attorney's name, Jerry Shulman, is on
14:47:56 | 18 I need to spend on time and then start to catch up
14: 51: 04 |\n| | 19 that. Obviously, my understanding, he was working on 14:48:02 | 19 and fix what happened before me.
14:51:08 |\n| | 20 this before.
14:48:05 | 20
Q. Yeah. Andthankyou.
14:51:09 |\n| 21 | Q. Okay. Did -- do you recall having
14:48:06 | 21
You requested a short break.
14:51:19 |\n| | 22 conversations with Mr. Shulman?
14:48:08 | 22
MR. HARBACH: And why don't we take that
14:51:21 |\n| 23 | A I don't recall.
14:48: 11 | 23 now.
14:51:23 |\n| 24 | Q. AndyourecallMr. Shulman--thatis
14:48:12
25 S-h-u-1-m, like Mary, a-n.
14:48:18 | 24
Just so everybody knows -- I hesitate to say 14:51:24
25 it, but I'm close to finishing up. Why don't we take 14:51:28 |\n\n44 (Pages 170 - 173)\n\n| | 1 a break until 3 :00 o'clock.
14:51:33 | I | A No.
15:06:30 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the
14:51:36 | 2 | Q Where did it come from?
15:06:31 |\n| | 3 record.
14:51:37 | 3 | A It come from his own successful investment.
15:06:33 |\n| 4 | The time is 2:51 p.m.
14:51:37 | 4 | Q Okay I'm asking about the money that he
15:06:42 |\n| 5 | (Short recess taken.)
15:02:54 | 5 | originally invested to become successful, didn't that 15 :06:46 |\n| 6 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
15:02:54 | | 6 comefromhisfather?
15:06:52 |\n| | 7 record.
15:02:57 | 7 | A No.
15:06:54 |\n| 8 | The time is 3:02.
15:02:57 | 8 | Q Okay Where did it come from 7
15:06:55 |\n| 9 | MR. HARBACH: Apologies, everyone. There
15:03:28 | 9 | A What I -- what I learned is that it come
15:06:58 |\n| | 10 was a loud announcement on our loudspeakers here.
15:03:30 | | IO from his family -- his extended family.
15:07:05 |\n| | 11 That is why I remained muted.
15:03:34 | II | Q Who told you that?
15:07:08 |\n| | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:03:34 | 12 | A I learned from him.
15:07:12 |\n| 13 | Q. One cleanup question, Ms. Wang, before we
15:03:38 | 13 | Q That is what he told you?
15:07:14 |\n| | 14 proceed to the next topic.
15:03:42 | 14 | A (Nods head)
15:07:17 |\n| 15 | Could you describe one successful investment 15:03:44 | 15 | Q Okay Next subject, do you remember earlier 15.07.21 |\n| | 16 that Golden Spring (New York) has made since you have 15:03:49 16 in our time today I explained to you that there was | | 15:07:28 |\n| | 17 been president?
15:03:53 | | 17 a difference between the -- the DIP loan, which we
15.07.31 |\n| 18 | A. Since I was appointed as a president; so the 15:03:55 | | 18 just talked about for some time, and then also loans 15 :07:35 |\n| | 19 first job, of course, is build up the entire team and 15 :04: 10 | | |\n| | | | 19 to fund litigation? Do you remember that?
15:0739 |\n| | 20 then start back to the operation. And then we did
15:04:13 | 20 | A Yes.
15:07:43 |\n| | 21 have some projects in discussion and then develop.
15:04:22 | 21 | Q Okay And so now I want to talk about that 15:07:45 |\n| | 22 But because of a Pacific Alliance branded lawsuit,
15:04:26 | | 22 second category, which is the loans that
15:07:50 |\n| | 23 I mean, our barik balance was very seriously hurt; so
15:04:35 | | 23 Golden Spring (New York) has made to Ho Wan Kwok for
15:07:55 |\n| | 24 we were not able to complete the full investment
15:04:39 | | 24 litigation.
15:08:02 |\n| | 25 project. But we did have some -- very prospective
15:04:43
Page 174 | 25 | Okay?
15:08:04
Page 176 |\n| | | | |\n| | I one before.
15:04:49 | I | A. Yes.
15:08:06 |\n| 2 | Q. Okay. Leaving aside the prospective one, is 15 :04: 50 | 2 | Q. Okay. So I -- for -- for right now I'm not
15:08:06 |\n| | 15:04:55 | | |\n| | 3 there any investment project that Golden Spring has | | 3 talking about the DIP loan.
15:08:09 |\n| | 4 done that has succeeded since you have been
15:05:02 | 4 | Do you understand?
15:08:11 |\n| | 5 president?
15:05:05 | 5 | A. Yes.
15:08:12 |\n| 6 | A. As I just explained, because our banking
15:05:06 | 6 | Q. Okay. According to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,
15:08:15 |\n| | 7 relationship was hurted by Pacific Alliance; so we
15:05: 10 | | 7 Golden Spring (New York) has loaned him approximately 15:08:2 S |\n| | 8 were not able to complete a full successful
15:05: 16 | | 8 \\$21 million to pay for litigation costs.
15:08:29 |\n| | 9 project -- investment project.
15:05:20 | 9 | My question to you is are you aware of that? 15:08:35 |\n| 10 | Q. Okay. So -- so the answer is no?
15:05:22 | 10 | A. Yes.
15:08:39 |\n| 11 | A. Correct.
15:05:25 | 11 | Q. Okay. Who requested those loans?
15:08:43 |\n| 12 | Q. Okay. Did you know Qiang Guo before you
15:05:26 | 12 | A. Who requested those loans? You mean the --
15:08:47 |\n| | 13 became an officer and director of Golden Spring
15:05:37 | | 13 I mean, can you explain more about the question?
15:08:59 |\n| | 14 (New York) Limited?
15:05:42 | 14 | Q. Who requested that Golden Spring (New York)
15:09:05 |\n| 15 | A. Yes.
15:05:42 | | 15 Limited would make those loans to cover
15:09: 10 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. Can you describe for me one
15:05:42 | | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's litigation costs?
15:09: 16 |\n| | 17 successful business enterprise that Qiang Guo has
15:05:48 | 17 | A. I believe they borrowed -- requested from
15:09:21 |\n| | 18 launched since you have known him.
15:05:54 | | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo directly, the owner of Golden Spring.
15:09:28 |\n| 19 | A. I don't want to put his business, any
15:05:57 | 19 | Q. By the borrower, you mean Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
15:09:38 |\n| | 20 specific name, at any risk for obvious reason. But
15:06:06 | 20 | A. That's right.
15:09:38 |\n| | 21 what I can tell you is that he has been very
15:06: 10 | 21 | Q. Are you cap- -- withdrawn.
15:09:44 |\n| | 22 successful in the investment world for -- in -- in
15:06: 13 | 22 | So father asked son to make the loans.
15:09:45 |\n| | 23 all of -- in different countries.
15:06:19 | 23 | Is that what you understand?
15:09:52 |\n| 24 | Q. And isn't it true that the -- the money that 15:06:21
25 he got to invest came from his father?
15:06:25 | 24
25 | A. Yes.
15:09:54
Q. Okay. Who approved those loans for
15:09:54 |\n\n45 (Pages 174 - 177)\n\n| | 1 GoldenSpring(NewYork)?
15:10:03 | 1 convinced, if that is what you were talking about.
15: 13:05 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A. They were approved by both .vlr. Qiang Guo and 15:10:06 | 2
Q. Well, I'm not talking about anything in
15:13:11 |\n| | 3 myself, as the president of Golden Spring.
15: 10: 13 | 3 particular. I'm just asking. And I'm trying to get
15: 13:15 |\n| 4 | Q. How did you become aware of the loans that
15:10:18 | 4 an understanding of what real authority you have as
15: 13: 18 |\n| | 5 were requested?
15:10:20 | 5 president and treasurer of Golden Spring (New York)
15:13:21 |\n| 6 | A. I heard from Mr. Qiang Guo.
15:10:22 | 6 Limited. Because what you have told me thus far is
15:13:24 |\n| 7 | Q. Did you have any conversations with
15: 10:28 | 7 that the DIP loan was approved by Mr. Qiang Guo
15: 13:28 |\n| | 8 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok about those loans?
15: 10:30 | 8 without your input and that it was enough for you
15: 13: 33 |\n| 9 | A. No.
15:10:34 | 9 that he told you that he would take care of it. And
15: 13:38 |\n| 10 | I don't recall.
15: 10:37 | 10 when it comes to the litigation funding, you have
15: 13:42 |\n| II | | |\n| | Q. Okay. You never asked him what the money
15:10:38 | 11 told me that father asked son and that you have never 15: 13:45 |\n| | 12 was for?
15:10:43 | 12 spoken to father about it, not even to ask him what
15: 13:49 |\n| 13 | A. No.
15:10:44 | 13 the money was for.
15: 13:51 |\n| 14 | That was a conversation between
15:10:47 | 14
So what I'm trying to understand is what
15: 13: 53 |\n| | 15 Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
15:10:48 | 15 exactly your role is. I mean, I know what your
15:13:56 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. Were any of the litigation loans that 15:10:51 | 16 titles are, but I'm trying to understand what your
15:14:00 |\n| | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asked for refused?
15:11:04 | 17 role is; so that is why I'm asking these questions.
15: 14:03 |\n| 18 | A. Yes.
15:11:12 | And so my question is is there an occasion
18
15: 14:08 |\n| 19 | Q. Bywhom?
15:11:14 | 19 you can point to where you disagreed with
15:14:13 |\n| 20 | A. Refused by Mr. Qiang Guo.
15:11:17 | 20 Mr. Qiang Guo over a decision that involved more than 15:14:18 |\n| 21 | Q. Did you agree, in your capacity as
15:11:20 | 21 a million dollars?
15:14:23 |\n| | 22 president, that it should have been refused?
15: 11 :25 | 22
A. Yes.
15:14:26 |\n| 23 | A. I am aligned with Mr. Qiang Guo's rejection. 15: 11 :29 | 23
Q. Okay. Howrecently?
15:14:27 |\n| 24 | Q. Okay. Are you ever not aligned with his
15: 11:35 | 24
A. What do you mean, how recently? I already
15: 14:30 |\n| | 25 decisions about matters involving millions of
15:11:38 | 25 explained, like, regarding when I was appointed
15:14:35 |\n| | Page 178 | Page 180 |\n| | | |\n| | 1 dollars?
15:11:42 | 1 and--
15:14:38 |\n| 2 | A. Yes.
15:11:43 | 2
Q. Okay.
15:14:39 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. Can you describe occasion on which
15:11:47 | 3
A. -- disagreements about investment projects.
15:14:39 |\n| | 4 your opinion prevailed?
15: 11: 51 | 4 I am talking about real estate or investment project
15: 14:43 |\n| 5 | A. For example, I make all the decision on the
15: 11: 56 | 5 in New York.
15:14:47 |\n| | | |\n| | 6 daily operation, including outfit--
15:12:00 | 6
Q. Okay. And that was --
15:14:47 |\n| 7 | Q. I'm not asking about -- I'm not asking about 15: 12:04 | A. I didn't convince him. I didn't convince
15:14:49
7 |\n| | 8 daily operations. I'm asking about a decision
15:12:07 | 8 him. They are all more than a million projects;
15:14:51 |\n| | 15:12: II
9 involving more than a million dollars. | 9 right?
15:14:54 |\n| 10 | Has there ever been --
15:12:15 | And I-- and I just testified this
10
15:14:54 |\n| 11 | A. I don't understand what you are asking
15:12:17 | 11 afternoon -- this morning, and he made decision about 15: 14:56 |\n| | 12 about. More than a million dollars is very general.
15: 12:20 | 12 the vehicles, which I don't align with that. But, of 15:15:00 |\n| | 13 I mean, I don't understand what you are asking, sir.
15: 12:23 | 13 course, we didn't get agreement, and he purchased the 15: 15 :06 |\n| 14 | Q. Okay. You just told me a moment ago that
15:12:25 | 14 cars. Because I don't agree with that; so that is
15:15:09 |\n| | 15 there have been occasions when you have disagreed
15: 12:28 | 15 the reason why I don't want to get too much of
15:15:12 |\n| | 16 with Mr. QiangGuo;right?
15:12:31 | 16 details, even as the president. We are a family
15:15:14 |\n| 17 | A. That's right.
15: 12:33 | 17 office;right?
15:15:18 |\n| 18 | Q. Okay. My question to you is has there ever
15:12:34 | Ifwedon'tgetalignedand--thatheis
18
15:15:19 |\n| | 19 been a disagreement between you and him about
15:12:38 | 19 the owner of the company about the director; right?
15:15:21 |\n| | 20 a decision that involved more than a million dollars? 15: 12:43 | 20
So he made the decision about the vehicles,
15:15:25 |\n| 21 | A. More than a million dollars?
15:12:48 | 21 and then I made the decision about the investment
15:15:30 |\n| 22 | Q. Yes.
15:12:52 | 22 opportunity. And then we did have disagreement. We
15:15:33 |\n| 23 | A. I mean, we did have some disagreements in
15: 12:53 | 23 take care of -- we take care of the result by the
15:15:35 |\n| | 24 the very beginning about some potential investment
15:12:58 | 24 end.
15:15:37 |\n| | 25 project; so we didn't get agreement, and he was
15:13:01
Page 179 | 25
Q. Okay. All right. And so there -- I think
15:15:37
Page 181 |\n\n46 (Pages 1 78 - 181)\n\n| | 1 I understand your answer, but there are two things
15:15:39 | | Q. Well, then tell me -- tell me another
15:18:50 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 that I just want to clarify and make sure of.
15:15:43 | | 2 example then. Tell me another example of a decision
15: 18:54 |\n| 3 | Number one, examples of disagreement.
15: 15:45 | | 3 involving more than a million dollars with which you
15:18:57 |\n| | 4 I asked you about timing. You just explained that
15:15:48 | | 4 disagree and your opinion prevailed, besides the real 15: 19 :00 |\n| | 5 one of those examples was when you were appointed in
15:15:52 | | 5 estate project that you have already mentioned three
15:19:05 |\n| | 6 2018the--youmentionedarealestateproject.
15:15:55 | | 6 times.
15:19:08 |\n| | 7 Understood.
15:15:59 | 7 | Any other example?
15:19:09 |\n| 8 | You also mentioned the vehicles just now
15:16:00 | 8 | A. I answered already.
15:19:12 |\n| | 9 that we were talking about earlier today.
15:16:03 | 9 | Q. Are any of the \\$21 million in litigation
15:19:14 |\n| 10 | Any other examples that you can think of?
15:16:07 | | 10 loans to Golden Spring (New York) expected to be
15: 19:29 |\n| 11 | A. You are asking me about more than a million, 15:16:12 | | 11 repaid?
15:19:32 |\n| | 12 which -- I mean, the advisement project, they are
15:16:19 | 12 | A. Yes.
15:19:34 |\n| | 13 more than a million.
15:16:23 | 13 | Q. Are any of the loans in writing?
15:19:34 |\n| 14 | Q. I understand. And I got that.
15:16:24 | 14 | A. Yes.
15:19:41 |\n| 15 | I'm asking whether there are any other
15:16:26 | 15 | Q. Have you seen the -- the documents for any
15:19:41 |\n| | 16 examples, besides those two.
15:16:29 | | 16 of the loans?
15:19:49 |\n| 17 | A. Weareafamilyofficeinhere. Ifyouare
15:16:32 | 17 | A. Yes.
15:19:53 |\n| | 18 asking about his father's legal thing, I mean that
15:16:39 | 18 | Q. Where are they?
15:19:53 |\n| | 19 his father-- as per Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, his
15:16:44 | 19 | A. They are in my office.
15:19:55 |\n| | 20 father might want to bring some litigation, which he
15: 16:47 | 20 | Q. On East 64th Street or wherever?
15:20:02 |\n| | 21 was asking my advice, which I give him my advice and
15:16:51 | 21 | A. What do you mean, wherever?
15:20:09 |\n| | 22 then he took it to support his father or not. That
15: 16: 56 | 22 | Q. I'm sorry. I'm trying to avoid using the
15:20:11 |\n| | 23 happened also.
15: 16:59 | | 23 exact address.
15:20:15 |\n| 24 | Q. With respect -- with respect to the -- the
15:17:00 | 24 | Are they at the family office in
15:20:15 |\n| | 25 vehicles, I believe you said that even though you
15: 17:05 | | 25 New York City?
15:20: 18 |\n| | | | |\n| | Page 182 | | Page 184 |\n| | 1 disagreed, Mr. Qiang Guo decided to buy the vehicles
15:17:09 | 1 | A. I believe in the morning of -- this morning
15:20:18 |\n| | 2 anyway; right?
15: 17:14 | | 2 I already testified my address, which you have it,
15:20:21 |\n| 3 | A. That's right.
15:17:16 | | 3 sir. It is on the 64th Street office, Golden Spring
15:20:25 |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. Andisn'tthattruethat,ingeneral, 15:17:19 | | 4 (New York)'s office.
15:20:29 |\n| | 5 if you disagree, as you said, Mr. Qiang Guo is going
15: 17:29 | 5 | Q. Okay.
15:20:29 |\n| | 6 to be the one who decides, according to you?
15:17:34 | 6 | A. You don't need to avoid mentioning the
15:20:30 |\n| 7 | A. No.
15:17:38 | | 7 address, sir. You have it.
15:20:34 |\n| 8 | It is -- it happened on his side also. If
15:17:41 | 8 | Q. Well, forgive me for being extra careful in
15:20:36 |\n| | 9 I don't disagree, he will go with me.
15:17:46 | | 9 light of your security concerns.
15:20:40 |\n| 10 | Q. Okay. Can you think of an example where you 15: 17:49 | 10 | A. Thank you.
15:20:43 |\n| | 11 have disagreed and your point of view prevailed and
15:17:57 | 11 | Q. Is that -- is that the address where the
15:20:44 |\n| | 12 the decision at issue involved more than a million
15: 18: 10 | | 12 loan documents are located?
15:20:45 |\n| | 13 dollars?
15:18:14 | 13 | A. Correct.
15:20:47 |\n| 14 | A. Sir, Ijustrepliedtoyourquestion. Like, 15:18:17 | 14 | Q. How many such loan documents are there?
15:20:47 |\n| | 15 the real estate property investment project.
15:18:21 | 15 | A. Several of them.
15:20:51 |\n| 16 | Q. Besides -- besides that one.
15:18:25 | 16 | Q. More than ten?
15:20:52 |\n| 17 | A. !mean, as I explained, that is our business 15:18:29 | 17 | A. Several of them.
15:20:58 |\n| | 18 plan; right?
15:18:32 | 18 | Q. Do you know whether it is more than ten or
15:21:00 |\n| 19 | We do real estate investment.
15:18:33 | | 19 not?
15:21:02 |\n| 20 | Ialreadytestifiedthatasafamilyoffice; 15:18:35 | 20 | A. I replied, several of them.
15:21:04 |\n| | 21 right?
15:18:38 | 21 | Q. Did you sign them?
15:21:07 |\n| 22 | Q. I'm -- I'm going to interpret your answer as 15: 18:39 | 22 | A. Yes.
15:21:11 |\n| | 23 that is the only example you can think of.
15:18:42 | 23 | Q. Who signed them for the borrower?
15:21:12 |\n| 24 | A. I don't agree. I don't agree. This is not
15:18:44 | 24 | A. The borrower signed it.
15:21:19 |\n| | 25 my answer. I give you my answer very clear.
15: 18:47
Page 183 | 25 | Q. Who is the borrower?
15:21:23
Page 185 |\n\n47 (Pages 182 - 185)\n\n| 1 | A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
15:21:25 | 1 specifically do you mean by documented?
15:24:25 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. Okay. Were you present when he signed them? 15:21:27 | 2
MR. HARBACH: Sure.
15:24:28 |\n| 3 | A. I don't recall.
15:21:30 | 3
What I mean is that the witness has
15:24:30 |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. How many of the \\$21 million in loan
15:21:33 | 4 indicated earlier in her testimony that some of the
15:24:34 |\n| | 5 are undocumented?
15:21 :42 | 5 loans were in writing and that there were loan
15:24:38 |\n| 6 | A. I don't recall. I couldn't give you the
15:21:44 | 6 agreements; so that is how I interpreted her answer.
15:24:44 |\n| | 7 precise number.
15:21:50 | 7 And I -- and I gather that some ofthem were and some 15:24:47 |\n| 8 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Well, we'll -- we'll
15:21:51 | 8 of them weren't. And so when I say documented loans, 15:24:50 |\n| | 9 request -- Scott, we'll request that Golden Spring
15:21:54 | 9 I mean the loans for which there is a written loan
15:24:54 |\n| | 10 (New York) Limited immediately produce to us all of
15 :21:59 | 10 agreement that she signed and that the borrower
15:24:58 |\n| | 11 the documents that the witness has just described,
15:22:02 | 11 signed.
15:25:03 |\n| | 12 namely, the loan agreements substantiating any
15:22:09 | 12
Does that help?
15:25:05 |\n| | 13 portion of the \\$21 million in litigation loans that
15:22:13 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.
15:25:06
13 |\n| | 14 the debtor has taken out from Golden Spring
15 :22: 16 | 14
Thank you.
15:25:08 |\n| | 15 (New York).
15:22:20 | 15
MR. HARBACH: Okay.
15:25:09 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN: I understand the request, and we 15:22:21 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:25:10 |\n| | 17 will take it under advisement.
15:22:23 | 17
Q. So Ms. Wang, does that change -- that
15:25:10 |\n| 18 | MR. HARBACH: Okay.
15:22:25 | 18 doesn't change any of your answers, I assume.
15:25:13 |\n| | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:22:29 | Did you understand what! meant?
19
15:25:15 |\n| 20 | Q. Ms. Wang, are you familiar with the terms of 15:22:29 | A. I replied my question. That is the best of 15:25: 17
20 |\n| | 21 any of those loans, meaning the litigation loans?
15:22:32 | 21 my knowledge for this second.
15:25:22 |\n| 22 | A. They are loans. They have interest. They
15:22:36 | 22
Q. Okay. So just to make -- just to -- to
15 :25 :24 |\n| | 23 should be paid back.
15:22:43 | 23 recap and make sure I understand.
15:25:27 |\n| 24 | Q. What interest rate?
15:22:44 | 24
There is approximately \\$21 million in
15:25:31 |\n| 25 | A. I couldn't remember clearly. I couldn't
15:22:46
Page 186 | 25 litigation loans that have been made by Golden Spring 15:25:35
Page 188 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | I remember clearly. Like, 2, 3 percent. I couldn't
15:22:53 | I (New York) to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?
15:25:39 |\n| | 2 remember.
15:22:56 | 2
A. Correct.
15:25:41 |\n| 3 | Q. Who negotiated the interest rate on those
15:22:56 | 3
Q. And some ofthose loans are -- are
15:25:47 |\n| | 4 loans for Golden Spring (New York)?
15:22:59 | 4 documented, by which I mean there is a written loan
15:25:50 |\n| 5 | A. Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we designed it.
15:23:01 | 5 agreement; correct?
15:25:55 |\n| 6 | Q. Who negotiated with the -- the borrower,
15:23:06 | 6
A. Correct.
15:25:57 |\n| | 7 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, for the interest rate on these
15:23:13 | 7
Besides that, we do have notes, like, on our 15:25:59 |\n| | 8 loans?
15:23:16 | 8 financial book that recorded as a loan also.
15:26:06 |\n| 9 | A. I don't recall.
15:23:18 | Q. Okay. And then some of those loans do not
9
15:26:08 |\n| 10 | Q. Did you communicate with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
15:23:21 | 10 have a -- a loan agreement in writing; correct?
15:26:11 |\n| | 11 about the interest rate on these loans?
15:23:26 | A. But in our financial records it is
15:26:16
11 |\n| 12 | A. I don't recall.
15:23:29 | 12 documented as a loan; correct.
15:26:20 |\n| 13 | Q. Is the interest rate the same on all of the
15:23:32 | Q. I understand. I understand.
15:26:22
13 |\n| | 14 loans?
15:23:38 | 14
But my point is for those, there is not
15:26:24 |\n| 15 | A. As far as I know, I remember, yes.
15:23:39 | 15 a loan agreement that you signed and that
15:26:28 |\n| 16 | Q. Is the total figure of approximately
15:23:45 | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok signed that contains an interest rate 15:26:31 |\n| | 17 \\$21 million in litigation loans about correct, to
15:23:50 | I 7 and formal terms; right?
15:26:36 |\n| | 18 yourrecollection?
15:23:56 | 18
A. Correct.
15:26:40 |\n| 19 | A. Approximately number -- yes. Correct.
15:23:57 | 19
There were some other loans between
15:26:41 |\n| 20 | Q. Okay. And approximately how much of that
15:24:02 | 20 Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok also.
15:26:45 |\n| | 21 21 million is in documented loans?
15:24:05 | Q. Okay.
15:26:47
21 |\n| 22 | A. I don't have it on the top of my head.
15:24:08 | 22
A. So financial notes was the loan agreement
15:26:48 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN: Can I ask, David, can you please 15:24:18 | 23 and then with our loan --
15:26:52 |\n| | 24 clarify.
15:24:21 | 24
Q. Okay.
15:26:55 |\n| 25 | When you say documented loans, what
15:24:22
Page 187 | 25
A. -- agreement.
15:26:56
Page 189 |\n\n48 (Pages 186 - 189)\n\n| Q. And so for the ones -- not the ones that
15:26:57 | MR. HARBACH: Sure.
15:29:50 |\n|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 were oral, but the ones that are in writing, you said 15:26:59 | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:29:51 |\n| 3 those documents are currently at the East 64th Street 15:27:04 | Q. Was Golden Spring (New York) Limited
15:29:52
3 |\n| 4 office; correct?
15:27:12 | 4 involved in assisting Mr. Kwok in filling out his
15:29:54 |\n| A. Correct.
15:27:13
5 | 5 bankruptcy schedules or his statement of financial
15:29:58 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Okay. So Scott, it is those
15:27:15
6 | 6 affairs?
15:30:01 |\n| 7 documents that we are requesting.
15:27:19 | A. No.
15:30:03
7 |\n| MR. ROSEN: I understand.
15:27:20
8 | Q. What about Mr. K wok's monthly operating
15:30:04
8 |\n| Thank you.
15:27:22
9 | 9 reports? Do you know what those are?
15:30:14 |\n| 10 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:27:22 | 10
A. Yes.
15:30:17 |\n| II
Q. Okay. Now, Ms. Wang, with respect to the
15:27:23 | Q. Okay. Was anyone at Golden Spring
15:30:20
11 |\n| 12 oral loans, who recorded them?
15:27:26 | 12 (New York) involved in helping prepare
15:30:24 |\n| A. What do you mean, who recorded them? For
15:27:31
13 | 13 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's monthly operating reports?
15:30:28 |\n| 14 Golden Spring?
15:27:34 | 14
A. We were requested to pull out his lifestyle
15:30:31 |\n| 15:27:34
Q. Yes, ma'am.
15 | 15 expenses. That is, I directed Golden Spring to help. 15:30:40 |\n| I think you just mentioned a moment ago that 15:27:35
16 | 16
Q. Okay. Who made the request to you?
15:30:47 |\n| 17 even the loans that were not documented with a loan
15 :27:39 | 17
A. I couldn't remember. Probably his attorney. 15:30:49 |\n| 18 agreement were recorded on the books of Golden Spring 15:27:41 | 18 I couldn't remember.
15:30:57 |\n| 19 (New York); right?
15:27:46 | Q. Okay. And ifl understand you correctly,
19
15:30:58 |\n| 20
A. Correct.
15:27:47 | 20 you directed one of your employees to assist?
15:31:00 |\n| Q. So I'm asking who recorded them on the
15:27:47
21 | A. Correct.
15:31:06
21 |\n| 22 books?
15:27:50 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. And I'll just note for
22
15:31:07 |\n| A. Golden Spring's finance.
15:27:51
23 | 23 the record, Scott, that I won't ask who that person
15:31:09 |\n| 24
Q. Okay. Was that at your direction?
15:27:55 | 24 is because I understand that you will object on the
15:31:17 |\n| 25
A. Correct.
15:27:59 | 25 same basis as before. And I'll just note that we
15:31:20 |\n| Page 190 | Page 192 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| Q. How did you learn about the terms of those
15:28:00
I | I continue to disagree with that objection.
15:31:24 |\n| 2 oral loans?
15:28:04 | 2
Is that okay?
15:31:26 |\n| A. I got to know from Mr. Qiang Guo also.
15:28:07
3 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.
15:31:27
3 |\n| Q. Were you personally involved in negotiating
15 :28: 10
4 | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:31:35 |\n| 5 any or -- or tendering any oral loans to
15:28:16 | Q. Do you know what the firm Verdolino & Lowey 15:31:35
5 |\n| 6 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
15:28:22 | 6 is?
15:31:42 |\n| A. I didn't attend the -- the conversation
15:28:23
7 | 7
A. Verdolino Lowey.
15:31:43 |\n| 8 between Mr. Qiang Guo and his father, no. I didn't.
15:28:30 | 8
Q. Have you ever heard of them?
15:31:45 |\n| Q. HasMr.HoWanKwokeveraskedyoufor
9
15:28:33 | 9
A. No.
15:31:48 |\n| 10 a loan from Golden Spring?
15:28:36 | I don't recall.
10
15:31:53 |\n| A. I don't recall.
15:28:38
11 | Q. Okay. Do you know who Craig Jalbert is?
15 :31: 53
11 |\n| Q. Does that mean it is possible that he has?
15:28:40
12 | A. I don't know this name.
15:31:59
12 |\n| A. I don't recall.
15:28:49
13 | Q. Okay.
15:31:59
13 |\n| Q. With apologies if I asked you this question
14
15 :28:57 | 14
A. Craig Jalbert.
15:32:02 |\n| 15 before. I honestly don't remember.
15:29:00 | Q. This may seem obvious from your earlier
15:32:03
15 |\n| 16
Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
15:29:02 | 16 answer, but please bear with me.
15:32:15 |\n| 17 about any of the litigation loans, whether oral or
15:29:06 | 17
Leaving aside the person's name, is it true
15:32:18 |\n| 18 written?
15:29:11 | 18 that there are personnel at Golden Spring (New York)
15:32:26 |\n| 19
A. I don't recall.
15:29: 12 | 19 Limited who could assist in compiling and calculating 15:32:31 |\n| 20
Q. Were you personally involved in helping
15:29:13 | 20 the lifestyle expenses of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
15:32:40 |\n| 21 Mr. Kwok fill out his bankruptcy schedules and his
15:29:33 | 21
A. Yes.
15:32:48 |\n| 22 statement of financial affairs?
15:29:38 | 22
Q. Focusing now just for a moment on those
15:32:49 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Objection. The witness is not
15:29:41
23 | 23 lifestyle expenses.
15:33:07 |\n| 24 here to testify in her personal capacity. I would
15:29:44
25 ask you to rephrase the question.
15:29:48 | 24
Okay?
15:33:10
25
A. Yes.
15:33:12 |\n\n49 (Pages 190 - 193)\n\n| Q. Has -- has Mr. Kwok ever made any requests
15:33:12 | 1 safety of his father; so the communication that
15:36:17 |\n|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 to you to have Golden Spring (New York) pay for
15:33:21 | 2 happens between Ho Wan Kwok and the security to
15:36:21 |\n| 3 expenses related to his lifestyle?
15:33:28 | 3 arrange the trip to Manhattan; so that one I don't
15:36:22 |\n| 15:33:31
4
Excuse me. | 4 need to get involved because it is too small for me.
15:36:26 |\n| A. I don't recall, but it is possible.
15:33:33
5 | Q. Okay. And then what about other day-to-day
15:36:30
5 |\n| 6
Q. Okay. What I'm asking about is, you know,
15:33:39 | 6 lifestyle needs, like in a recent proceeding the --
15:36:34 |\n| 7 hey, Yvette, I need Golden Spring to pay for me to
15:33:46 | 7 the U.S. Trustee asked about what ifhe needed to buy 15:36:42 |\n| 8 drive to Manhattan or I need Golden Spring to pay for 15:33:52 | 8 a pair of shoes?
15:36:47 |\n| 9 this suit that I need for my trip to court -- things
15:33:57 | Just walk us through how that happens.
15:36:49
9 |\n| 10 like that.
15:34:02 | A. I don't even -- I mean, yes. I review some
15:36:52
10 |\n| Does he make requests to you like that?
15:34:03
11 | 11 of the credit card bill or the bills, but I do have
15:36:56 |\n| | |\n| A. I don't recall. But there was some requests 15:34:06
12 | 12 my finance. I mean, I don't need to do finance job.
15 :37:00 |\n| 13 that he made -- he made to me, like, as before, like, 15:34: 15 | 13 I don't even remember to see very often he buys
15:37:04 |\n| 14 buy some very expensive, like, furniture, I believe.
15:34: 19 | 14 shoes. I mean --
15:37:09 |\n| 15 And I -- obviously, it is more than his lifestyle.
15:34:22 | Q. Does he buy anything?
15
15:37:12 |\n| 16 I report itto Mr. Qiang Guo, and Mr. Qiang Guo
15:34:26 | 16
A. Yes.
15:37:14 |\n| 17 reject it --
15:34:29 | 17
He buy -- he buy clothes, yes.
15:37:16 |\n| Q. Okay.
15:34:29
18 | 18
Q. Okay. So how does he buy clothes?
15:37:20 |\n| 19
A. -- so I reject it to him also.
15:34:30 | 19
A. He buy clothes from the shops, I believe.
15:37:23 |\n| 20
Q. Right.
15:34:32 | 20
Q. Okay. Does he physically go to the shops or 15:37:28 |\n| A. Yeah.
15:34:34
21 | 21 does he shop online?
15:37:32 |\n| 22
Q. I'm asking about, you know, day-to-day
15:34:34 | 22
MR. HARBACH: Scott, I promise I am just
15:37:34 |\n| 23 stuff, like the -- however -- you know, I don't mind
15 :34:37 | 23 trying to understand. I don't -- I won't dwell here
15:37:37 |\n| 24 telling you it has been a real mystery to all ofus
15:34:43 | 24 unnecessarily.
15:37:39 |\n| 25 creditors and, I think, to the U.S. Trustee how
15:34:48 | 25 Ill |\n| Page 194 | Page 196 |\n| I Mr. Kwok pays for things. We really have had
15:34:52 | I BY MR. HARBACH:
15:37:40 |\n| 2 a difficult time figuring out how that happens. And
15:34:55 | Q. Go ahead, Ms. Wang.
15:37:41
2 |\n| 3 so I am hoping that you can help me understand
15:34:58 | A. I don't get involves in his personal life;
15:37:43
3 |\n| | |\n| 4 a little bit because, according to him, Golden Spring 15 :35:01 | 4 so I cannot say.
15:37:47 |\n| 5 (New York) Limited pays for all this stuff. And
15:35:04 | Q. So you don't -- you don't know whether he
15:37:48
5 |\n| | |\n| 6 since you are the president and treasurer of
15:35:07 | 6 likes to go in the stores to shop orhe shops online? 15:37:51 |\n| 7 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, I'm hoping you can
15:35:09 | 7
A. I do see bills from the shops, which
15:37:57 |\n| 8 help us understand.
15:35:14 | 8 !verify. Ihavethefinanceverifythatitwashis
15:38:03 |\n| So I know we talked earlier about your
15:35: 15
9 | 9 purchase.
15:38:08 |\n| 10 review of credit card bills and -- and so forth, but
15 :35: 17 | 10
Q. Okay.
15:38:08 |\n| II for something like that, say Mr. -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
15:35:21 | A. We take care of that; so I don't need to
15:38:09
11 |\n| 12 needs to take a trip into Manhattan for some reason
15:35:26 | 12 follow him --
15:38:13 |\n| 13 and he needs a car.
15:35:30 | Q. All right.
15:38: 13
13 |\n| 14
Does he come to you? I mean, you say you
15:35:33 | 14
A. -- where he goes; right?
15:38:14 |\n| 15 run the day-to-day operations of Golden Spring.
15:35:36 | So I don't know --
15
15:38:14 |\n| Does he come to you or -- or send you
15:35:40
16 | 16
Q. No.
15:38:17 |\n| 17 a message and say, hey, I need a car set up? I mean, 15 :35 :42 | 17
I -- I know that. I'm not suggesting you
15:38:17 |\n| 18 how does that work?
15:35:46 | 18 follow him.
15:38: 19 |\n| A. Okay. So to reply to this specific
15:35:48
19 | 19
What I'm really just trying to understand is 15:38:20 |\n| 20 question, as the president of a company, I mean,
15:35:50 | 20 how does the transaction happen? Mr. Kwok walks into 15:38:23 |\n| 21 I already don't deal with this kind of very small
15:35:53 | 21 Saks Fifth Avenue and sees a suit he wants to buy.
15:38:29 |\n| 22 request from him; so Golden Spring does have
15:35:57 | 22 Let's just pretend that's what happens.
15:38:35 |\n| 23 a security which, as you understood probably, sir,
15:36:01 | 23
Okay?
15:38:37 |\n| 24 like as per Mr. Qiang, was a regiment because
15:36:06 | 24
And he is in there, and he says, I like that 15:38:38 |\n| 25 Mr. Qiang would -- does care the most is the life
15:36:13 | 25 suit. And he tries it on, and it looks good, and so
15:38:41 |\n\n50 (Pages 194 - 197)\n\n| 1 he wants to buy it.
15:38:45 | Q. Okay. So I think you do know my question,
15:41:55 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| What happens next? How does it get from
2
15:38:47 | 2 and it is really not hard. But it seems to be really 15:42:02 |\n| 3 there to being on a bill that you see?
15:38:49 | 3 hard to get an answer to it.
15:42:06 |\n| 4
A. Oh, that doesn't happen often at all. That
15:38:54 | How does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok purchase things,
4
15:42:10 |\n| 5 is number one. And that did happen before. Like,
15:38:58 | 5 and how does what -- something that he wants to buy
15:42:20 |\n| 6 sometimes I can see from the securities credit
15:39:03 | 6 and buys end up on a bill for you to review? And you 15:42:23 |\n| 7 card-- debit card -- let me correct -- to see that
15:39:07 | 7 have given me one example.
15:42:27 |\n| 8 purchase. And then, obviously, my finance will dive
15:39:10 | You said there are times when Mr. Qiang Guo
8
15:42:29 |\n| 9 in and verify and confirm that he has purchased. But 15:39:14 | 9 will purchase something, and it will then end up on
15:42:31 |\n| 10 that does not happen often at all.
15:39:17 | 10 a bill for you to review and verify; right?
15:42:35 |\n| Q. Okay. Well, you did mention that he buys
15:39:21
11 | A. No.
15:42:42
11 |\n| 12 clothes; right?
15:39:24 | That is not my answer. You misunderstood
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15:42:42 |\n| 13
A. Yes.
15:39:27 | 13 me, sir.
15:42:45 |\n| Q. Okay. So you give me an example of how he
15:39:28
14 | Q. Okay. Please explain.
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15:42:46 |\n| 15 will buy some clothes.
15:39:34 | 15
A. I will use my translator since you have been 15:42:49 |\n| If the Saks Fifth Avenue example doesn't
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15:39:36 | 16 misunderstanding me along the way, which I don't feel 15:42:53 |\n| 17 happen very often, tell me what does happen.
15:39:40 | 17 you get this. Sorry.
15:42:57 |\n| A. He just doesn't buy clothes very often, not
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15:39:43 | Like, can I have my interpreter --
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15:43:01 |\n| 19 only the shoes at Saks Fifth Avenue.
15:39:49 | 19
Q. Absolutely.
15:43:04 |\n| Q. Does Mr. Kwok have a credit card?
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15:39:54 | 20
A. -- I mean, to help me.
15:43:05 |\n| 21
A. As far as I know, he doesn't have. At least 15:40:07 | 21
Q. Absolutely.
15:43:06 |\n| 22 Golden Spring never give him.
15:40:12 | MR. HARBACH: So for clarity of the record,
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15:43:07 |\n| 23
Q. Does he have a debit card?
15:40:14 | 23 Ms. Johnston, the question is I'm trying to
15:43 :09 |\n| 24
A. Golden Spring didn't give him.
15:40:17 | 24 understand how -- when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok wants to
15:43:13 |\n| 25
Q. How do the things that he does purchase end
15 :40:20 | 25 purchase something, how does it get -- from the
15:43:16 |\n| Page 198 | Page 200 |\n| 1 up on a bill that you review? Tell me how that
15:40:25 | I decision by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok to purchase something,
15:43:20 |\n| 2 happens
15:4030 | 2 how does that end up on a bill that Ms. Wang sees?
15:43:25 |\n| A. For his clothes, I mean, I know, like,
15:40:31 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
15:43:29
3 |\n| 4 Mr. Qiang Guo, he has some shops in Manhattan. When 15:40:36 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)
15:43:29
4 |\n| 5 he ism Manhattan he -- he -- I mean, quite often
15:40:43 | 5 Okay. First of all, when I say when I review bills,
15:44:38 |\n| 6 shopping there, and sometimes I saw the bill from the 15:40:49 | 6 those were only in respect to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's
15:44:44 |\n| 7 shop, which I -- obviously finance will need to
15:40:52 | 7 purchase for clothing and shoes. And Mr. Qiang Guo
15:44:47 |\n| 8 verify. If not, Mr. Qiang Guo purchase. But, like,
15:40:55 | 8 has certain shops he goes to on a regular basis; so
15:44:51 |\n| 9 his father has purchased. That happened before; so
15:40:59 | 9 if his father were to shop there, then the shop would 15 :44: 57 |\n| 10 like -- that is, like, in my understanding
15:41:03 | 10 know to send the bill to New York Golden Spring; so
15:45:02 |\n| 11 :tvrr. Qiang Guo took care of his father.
15:4106 | 11 in other words his father's purchase was under
15:45: 10 |\n| Q. So Mr. QiangGuowillbuysomethingforhis 15:41:08
12 | 12 Mr. Qiang Guo's profile.
15:45:14 |\n| 13 dad, finance it.
15:41: 12 | I don't think maybe you understood what
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15:45:16 |\n| Golden Spring will verify that how? By
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15:41 :14 | 14 I meant. That is why I wanted the interpreter to
15:45:18 |\n| 15 calling :tvrr. Qiang Guo and asking him?
15:41 :16 | 15 interpret for me.
15:45:21 |\n| A. Sometimes we do that, yes.
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15:41 :19 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:45:23 |\n| Q. Okay. And when Mr. Qiang Guo is in the UK,
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15:41 :21 | Q. Thank you very much.
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15:45:23 |\n| 18 as you have told me is where he lives, how does that 15:41:27 | And I do understand that example.
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15:45:26 |\n| 19 changethings? HowdoesMr.--Mr.HoWanKwokbuy
15:41:31 | |\n| 20 something while his son is in the UK?
15:41:36 | 19
What about for groceries?
15:45:28 |\n| | 20
A. (In English) Groceries, I mean, he lives in 15:45:33 |\n| A. What do you mean, change things? I mean,
15:41 :39
21 | 21 his wife's house; so ifthere is any grocery needed
15:45:41 |\n| 22 the shops obviously know Mr. Qiang Guo, whether he is 15:41 :43 | 22 to be purchased, it is for both of them; so what
15:45:45 |\n| 23 in New York or not; so the father came and then
15:41:47 | 23 Golden Spring was requested to pull out, like,
15:45:51 |\n| 24 shopping there. I mean, I don't know what is your
15 :41 :52 | 24 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, his grocery purchase from his wife,
15:45:58 |\n| 15 4154
25 question, sir. | 25 like a general purchase; so I mean, the husband, the
15:46:03 |\n\n51 (Pages 198 - 201)\n\n| | 1 wife live together. He is living in his wife's
15:46:08 | 1 | THE WITNESS: I don't know.
15:48:20 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 house. It doesn't make sense, like, he buy his own
15 :46: 11 | 2 | MR. ROSEN: She testified numerous times
15:48:25 |\n| | 3 stuff, separate account.
15:46:14 | | 3 that he is not authorized as a user of the card, and
15:48:27 |\n| 4 | Q. I understand that.
15:46:15 | | 4 she has answered this question numerous times.
15:48:30 |\n| 5 | I'm just asking how the groceries are paid
15:46:16 | 5 | MR. HARBACH: I don't believe she said -- it 15:48:32 |\n| | 6 for.
15:46:19 | | 6 wasn't a question of whether he was an authorized
15:48:32 |\n| 7 | A. It paid by Golden Spring also.
15:46:21 | | 7 user. I believe she said that he never used it.
15:48:35 |\n| 8 | Q. Same question as before.
15:46:26 | | 8 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:48:38 |\n| 9 | Do they just go to a grocery store and the
15:46:29 | 9 | Q. Does his wife use it?
15:48:38 |\n| | 10 grocery store sends the bill to Golden Spring? Or do 15:46:34 | 10 | A. Usewhat?
15:48:40 |\n| | 11 they buy their groceries online? How does that work? 15:46:38 | 11 | Q. The debit card or the credit card to buy
15:48:42 |\n| 12 | A. Grocery, most of them go with the debit
15:46:42 | | 12 groceries?
15:48:47 |\n| | 13 card.
15:46:46 | 13 | A. It is possible.
15 :48:48 |\n| 14 | Q. Okay.
15:46:46 | 14 | Q. Do you know one way or the other?
15:48:51 |\n| 15 | A. And buy--
15:46:47 | | A. I mean, I don't live in their home; right?
15:48:59 |\n| | | 15 | |\n| 16 | Q. So
15:46:50 | | 16 Who is buying groceries? From my end, I can't see,
15:49:03 |\n| 17 | A. And buy online also, yes.
15:46:52 | | 17 like, an Amazon purchase or, like, a Whole Foods
15:49:09 |\n| 18 | Q. Okay. And so even if the purchase is
15:46:53 | | 18 purchase. Who uses those cards? I need to find out. 15:49:11 |\n| | 19 online, some sort of card, like if it is a debit card 15:46:56 | 19 | Q. Okay. So it sounds like, from what you just 15:49:14 |\n| | 20 or a credit card, needs to be used; right?
15:47:03 | | 20 said, it could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife or it 15:49:19 |\n| 21 | A. Correct.
15:47:07 | | 21 could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, couldn't it?
15:49:23 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. Who uses that card?
15:47:08 | 22 | A. I'm not giving you an answer in here because 15:49:26 |\n| 23 | A. Who use that card?
15:47:10 | | 23 I don't know.
15:49:32 |\n| 24 | They -- people. I mean, his wife use it
15:47:16 | 24 | Q. That is what I'm getting at. You don't
15:49:32 |\n| | 25 also.
15:47:20
Page 202 | | 25 know.
15:49:35
Page 204 |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| I | Q. Does he ever use the --
15:47:20 | | From what you are looking at on the bill,
15:49:36 |\n| 2 | A. !mean--
15:47:23 | | 2 you don't know who used the card, do you? Do you?
15:49:38 |\n| 3 | Q. Does he ever use the card?
15:47:24 | 3 | A. Youaretalkingaboutgrocery?
15:49:47 |\n| 4 | A. I don't think so. He doesn't read English
15:47:26 | 4 | Q. I'm talking about the examples you just
15:49:49 |\n| | 5 at all, so
15:47:30 | | 5 gave, Whole Foods or whatever else.
15:49:51 |\n| 6 | Q. I mean, well, I don't know that you need to
15:47:31 | 6 | When you see that on the bill, you just said 15:49:53 |\n| | | | |\n| | 7 read English to use a credit card or a debit card.
15:47:33 | | 7 you don't know who uses the card; correct?
15:49:56 |\n| 8 | Does he ever use the card to make purchases
15:47:37 | 8 | A. The family uses the card. I do know. The
15:50:00 |\n| | 9 himself?
15:47:42 | | 9 family uses the card.
15:50:04 |\n| 10 | A. Which time period you are asking about and
15:47:42 | 10 | Q. Sure. Sure.
15:50:06 |\n| | 11 by what kind of purchase methods?
15:47:44 | 11 | And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the
15:50:07 |\n| 12 | Q. You--
15:47:44 | | 12 family, isn't he?
15:50: 10 |\n| 13 | A. If you are asking about online, he doesn't
15:47:47 | 13 | A. Correct.
15:50:12 |\n| | 14 read English.
15:47:50 | 14 | But he does not read English at all.
15:50:13 |\n| 15 | I mean, you have to be able to read English
15:47:51 | 15 | Q. Okay. Does his wife?
15:50: 16 |\n| | 16 to shopping online; right?
15:47:53 | 16 | A. His wife what?
15:50:18 |\n| 17 | Q. Does that --
15:47:53 | 17 | Q. Does his wife read English?
15:50:21 |\n| 18 | A. So with that, I can confirm he doesn't.
15:47:54 | 18 | A. I don't believe so.
15:50:24 |\n| 19 | Q. Were -- well, number one, I'm pretty sure
15:47:55 | 19 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Give me just thirty
15:50:29 |\n| | 20 there are Websites in Chinese.
15:48:00 | | 20 seconds, please.
15:50:32 |\n| 21 | And, number two, let's just stick with the
15:48:03 | | 21 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:53:11 |\n| | 22 grocery example.
15:48:06 | 22 | Q. Thank you for your patience. Hopefully
15:53:12 |\n| 23 | Does he ever use the credit card or the
15:48:11 | | 23 I saved us a little time by taking that break. A few 15:53: 14 |\n| 25 | 24 debit card to buy groceries?
15:48: 15
MR. ROSEN: Objection.
15:48:19 | 25 | 24 cleanup questions, and I think we are finished.
15:53:19
What is your understanding of how
15:53:22 |\n\n52 (Pages 202 - 205)\n\n1 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is going to repay the \\$21 million in 15:53:24 2 litigation loans? 15:53:28 3 A. I don't have understanding. I mean, he need 15:53:30 4 to pay back those loans ifhe win the case and then, 15:53:38 5 I mean, I assume there will be some success, and then 15:53:42 6 he should pay back the loan. That is all my 7 understanding. 15:53:49 8 Q. Is there a Golden Spring (New York) owned 9 car that stays at Mr. and Ms. Kwok's residence? 15:53:46 15:53:50 15:53:54 10 A. I don't recall. As I said, I am not a car 15:54:06 11 person. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo will deal with the car 15:54:09 12 at that part. 15:54:13 13 Q. Well, doesn't Golden Spring (New York) 15:54:14 1 One -- one -- the famous one more question 15:57: 11 2 that we lawyers like to ask. 15:57:14 3 BY MR. HARBACH: 15:57:16 4 Q. You have mentioned a couple of times that 15:57:17 5 Golden Spring has enough money to carry on its daily 15 :57: 19 6 operations. 15:57:23 7 What is the operating budget for 15:57:25 8 Golden Spring (New York) for those daily operations? 15:57:29 9 The annual budget, say, approximately. 10 A. The annual is going to be anything 15:57:34 15:57:42 11 between -- I mean, operating mean paying the lease, 15:57:47 12 paying the employees and office supplies, furniture, 15:57:54 13 everything. 15:57:59 14 Limited pay for a chauffeur for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 15:54:17 14 Q. I'm asking, yeah, everything that you would 15:57:59 15 16 A. We pay the employees, yes. 15:54:23 Q. Okay. And my question to you isn't about 15:54:26 17 what kind of car it is. 15:54:30 18 I'm just asking whether there is a car and 15:54:32 19 a chauffeur that is available to Mr. Kwok whenever he 15:54:35 20 needs it. 15:54:39 21 A. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo would -- does rent 15:54:44 22 a car for his father, and then Golden Spring pay the 15 :54: 50 23 chauffeur. That is what I can confirm. 15:54:53 15 lump under day-to-day operations, as you said 15:58:02 16 earlier. 15:58:06 17 A. I'm answering your question, sir. 15:58:07 18 It is anything and everything between annual 15:58:10 19 lease between 2 to 3 million, at least-- at least 15:58: 13 20 the minimal. 15:58:17 21 Q. Okay. All right. Those are all my 15:58:18 22 questions. 15:58:21 23 MR. HARBACH: I don't know if any of the 24 Q. Okay. Do you have personal knowledge of who 15:54:58 24 other counsel who have endured this to this point 15:58:23 15:58:24 25 owns the residence where they live? 15:55:04 I 2 3 MR. HARBACH: Don't worry, Scott. I won't stay here long. 15:55:11 THE WITNESS: You are asking personal Page 206 15:55:09 15:55:15 4 knowledge? 5 BY MR. HARBACH: 15:55: 18 15:55:19 6 7 Q. I'm asking if you know. 15:55:19 MR. ROSEN: If you know. It calls for 15:55:21 8 yes-or-no answer. 15:55:26 9 THE WITNESS: I don't have personal 15:55:26 10 knowledge. 15:55:28 11 MR. HARBACH: Okay. I'm going to make 15:55:29 12 a request, Scott, to supplement our earlier request 15:55:30 13 for the loan documents. 15:55:39 14 I'm also going to request that Golden Spring 15:55:40 15 (New York) please promptly produce to us the 15:55:43 16 notations in the books and records that the witness 15: 5 5: 50 17 referred to as evidencing the oral loans for 15:55:55 18 litigation. 15:56:02 19 Do you understand what I'm talking about? 15:56:04 20 21 22 MR. ROSEN: I'm just taking notes right now. 15:56:07 MR. HARBACH: Okay. 15:56:10 MR. ROSEN: I believe I understand your 23 question, and we will take that under advisement. 24 MR. HARBACH: Okay. Those are -- just -- 25 just one second, please. 15:56:27 15:56: 13 15:56: 15 15:56:18 Page 207 25 want to ask any questions. 15:58:28 I 2 Page 208 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: It doesn't sound like it. 15:58:39 MR. HARBACH: All right. Well, Ms. Wang, 15:58:42 3 thank you very much for your time and your patience 15:58:44 4 with my questions today. 15:58:48 5 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are offthe record at 15:58:51 6 3:58 p.m. 15:58:53 7 And this concludes today's testimony given 15:58:54 8 by Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for 15:58:57 9 Golden Spring (New York). 15:59:00 10 The total number of media units used was one 15:59:00 11 and will be retained by Veritext Legal Solutions. 15:59:04 12 MR. HARBACH: This is David Harbach, of 16:03:38 13 O'Melveny & Myers, for Pacific Alliance. 16:04:03 14 And I would like to supplement the 16:04:06 15 deposition exhibits with one additional exhibit that 16:04: 10 16 will be called Exhibit 6. (Deposition Exhibit Number 6 16:04: 13 17 16:04: 13 18 19 was marked for identification.) 16:04:16 MR. HARBACH: And it is the notice of 16:04: 16 20 deposition for today's witness. I have spoken to the 16:04:21 21 deponent's counsel, Mr. Rosen, and he does not object 16:04:25 22 to it being added as an exhibit. 16:04:28 23 MR. ROSEN: Can we put -- put it up on the 16:04:32 24 screen? 16:04:36 25 MR. HARBACH: Yes. Yes. 16:04:37 Page 209\n\n53 (Pages 206 - 209)\n\n| | | | 1 STATE OF CALIFORNIA) |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----|----------------------------------------------------------|\n| | My colleague is working on that right now.
16:04:39 | | |\n| 2 | THE REPORTER: Mr. Rosen, would you like
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16:05:35 | 3 | |\n| 4 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.
16:06:02 | 4 | |\n| 5 | THE REPORTER: And would you like a rough?
16:06:09 | 5 | I, B. Suzanne Hull, a Certified Shorthand |\n| 6 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.
16:06:14 | | 6 Reporter in the State of California, holding |\n| 7 | Copy to be delivered tonight.
16:06:22 | | 7 Certificate Number 13495, du hereby certify Uial |\n| | 8 (4:28 p.m.) | | 8 YAN PING WANG, the witness named in the foregoing |\n| 9 | --00000-- | | 9 deposition, was by me duly sworn; that said |\n| 10 | | | 10 deposition, was taken Tuesday, April 12, 2022, at the |\n| II | | | 11 time and place set forth on the first page hereof. |\n| 12 | | 12 | That upon the taking of the deposition, the |\n| 13 | | | 13 words of the witness were written down hy me in |\n| 14 | | | 14 stenotypy and thereafter transcribed by computer |\n| 15 | | | 15 under my supervision; that the foregoing is a true |\n| 16 | | | 16 and correct transcript of the testimony given by the |\n| 17 | | | 17 witness. |\n| 18 | | 18 | Pursuant to Federal Rule 30( e ), transcript |\n| 19 | | | 19 review was requested. |\n| 20 | | 20 | I further certify that I am neither counsel |\n| 21 | | | 21 for nor in any way related to any party to said |\n| 22 | | | 22 action, nor in any way interested in the result or |\n| 23 | | | 23 outcome thereof. |\n| 24 | | | 24 Ill |\n| 25 | | | 25 Ill |\n| | Page 210 | | Page 212 |\n| | 1 STATE OF CALIFORNIA) | 1 | Dated this 12th day of April, 2022, at |\n| | | | |\n| | ) ss. | | 2 Bakersfield, California. |\n| | 2 COUNTY OF KERN
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214:5 | acceptable 11:16 | 134.22 148.3 | 171:11,12 172:15 | | |\n| 216:2 | 125:25 | 150:8 159:10 | 179:14 190:16 | | |\n| રà«àª°à«
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6 | | advisement | 137:3 178:21 | | |\n| account 124:25
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125:8,11,14,22 | | 186:17 207:23 | agreement 137:16 | | |\n| 9:19 20:5,12 26:2
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112:20 | align 136:6 181:12 | | |\n| | addressed 170:17 | 181:11 | aligned 136:5 | | |\n| ರಿ
6:6 | administrator | ago 12:10 15:24 | 137:8 165:23,23 | | |\n| 3:11
90 | 47:951:25 52:15 | 17:19 25:14 29:20 | 165:23 178:23.24 | | |\n| 9:15
7:2.6 | 54:21 55:2 58:8 | 30:3,20 36:6,6 | 181:18 | | |\n| àššàšŸ | 58:16,19 68:1,6,17 | 37:17 44:16 45:12 | alliance 2:11 5:9 | | |\n| 7:2.6
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21:8 22:5 | 128:6,23 129:4 |\n| 204:22 207:8 | approve
146: 12 | 48:6 53: 11 62:22 | assignment
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89: 16 92: 18 |\n| | 178:2 180:7 | 88:21 95:8 105:4 | 192:20 193: 19 |\n| | | | |\n\n95\n\n#### **[assistant** - **birnbaum]**\n\n| assistant
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213 :2 | 14:14 18:3 21:6 |\n| assume
101:12,13 | available
91:19 | balance
125:10,22 | 24: 1, 1,22 31: 12 |\n| 101: 14 109:9 | 92:2 146:5 206: 19 | 126:21 127: 19,22 | 32: 12 35: 13 42:23 |\n| 188: 18 206:5 | avenue
197:21 | 127:24 174:23 | 69:20 80: 1,25 |\n| assumed
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166:9 | avoids
71:22 | 127:1,5,21128:4,6 | 113:12 114:2,20 |\n| attached
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1: 1 | 170:15 172:14,17 |\n| attorney
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bearing | 202:10 205:1,6 |\n| audit
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28: 11 | 195:10 196:11 |\n| 168:20 180:4 | 88:2 90: 1,20 91:4 | 28: 12 69:7 87:6 | 197:7 201:5 |\n| authorization | 101:15 107:16 | 117:19 179:24 | birnbaum
2:21 |\n| 165:24 | 111:16 112:16 | | 8:2 |\n| | | | |\n\nPAX-015-059\n\n| [bit - cbshealaw.com] | |\n|-----------------------|--|\n|-----------------------|--|\n\n| bit 30:25 37:8 | 2:4 8:7,10
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70:4 | 198:23 202:13,19 |\n|----------------------|---------------------|----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 46:25 162:14 | 18:6 | calculating 193:19 | 202:19,20,22,23 |\n| 195:4 | brownrudnick.c | calculation
70:7 | 203:3,7,7,8,23,24 |\n| hlamed
86:3 | 2:9.9 | california
10:5 | 204:3,11,11 205:2 |\n| blower
117:18 | bsilverberg 2:9 | 211:1,15 212:1,6 | 205:7,8,9 |\n| book
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190:18,22 | build 118:21 | call 16:6,20 28:15 | 102:23 103:1 |\n| 207:16 | 174:19 | 43:3 95:25 102:8 | 204:18 |\n| 177:17
borrowed | 171:5
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borrower | business
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154:13 | 162:4,17,22 180:9 |\n| branded 174:22 | 120:18 121:18 | candidates
152:16 | 181:23,23 195:25 |\n| 114:20,24
bravo | 122:5 168:14 | 54:11
cantonese | 197:11 199:11 |\n| 115:4,11 | 175:17,19 183:17 | 177:21
cap | career 31:18 |\n| break 66:17 67:4 | 106:3,15,19
buy | capability 154:18 | 164:18 |\n| 111:24 112:3,4 | 107:9,9,15,24 | capacity 51:23 | careful
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case |\n| 142:18 | 202:17 203:24 | 167:15
captioned | 14:18,20,22 37:6 |\n| briefed 138:1,10 | 204:11 | 108:20 110:3
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brothers | 153:15
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ca | 105:1 195:10 | cbshealaw.com |\n| 87.3 | | 196:11 198:7,7,20 | 2:24 |\n| | | | |\n\n| ccp
214:9,12 | 155:2,2 | close
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201: 8 | checked
127:24 | closer
36:8 152:3 | 151:11,15,17 |\n| certainly
41:24 | china
18: 18,20 | clothes
95 :25 | 187: 10 |\n| 80: 17 129:3 | 24:25 25:25 30:3 | 99:20 100:18 | communicated |\n| 164:25 | 31:8,20 114:8 | 101:5,6,9 196:17 | 17:3, 11, 15 151 :2 |\n| certificate
5:5,6 | chinese
47: 11 | 196: 18, 19 198: 12 | 164:20 |\n| 166: 14 167: 16 | 49:24 54:4 84:7 | 198: 15, 18 199:3 | communicating |\n| 168:4,19 173:8 | 203:20 | clothing
99:9, 18 | 17:6 |\n| 212:7 | choice
47: 10 | 100:24 101:4,11 | communication |\n| certification
10:6 | city
31:22 71:13 | 101:13 107:22 | 154: 17 196: 1 |\n| certified
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214:9, 12,19 | 16:8 |\n| certify
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47: 11 |\n| 212:7,20 | 214:20 | coffee
82:6, 10, 12 | 84:7 |\n| cetera
68: 12 | claiborn
3 :5 8: 15 | 82: 15,20 106: 19 | companies
27:5 |\n| challenged
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26:8 |\n| change
163:20 | claim
77:22 | cohn
2:21 8:2 | 45:9 46:7,10 |\n| 188:17,18 199:19 | claimed
78:23 | colleague
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25:12,15 | 114:4,5,7,19 |\n| changing
127: 19 | 187:24 | 27:20 28:4 44: 11 | 117: 15 118: 19,24 |\n| charge
80: 12 | clarity
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174: 13 | 161:21 162:6 | 137:7 152: 11 |\n| charter
166:7 | 205:24 | 163:11167:8 | 153 :9 155 :3,8 |\n| 167: 17 168: 15,16 | clear
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166:6 |\n| chat
141:8,8, 10 | clearly
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87:21 | competency
26:10 |\n| 142:19 161:18 | 85:25 97:5 101:16 | 152:19 153:10 | 44:24 |\n| chauffeur
34:24 | 186:25 187: 1 | 159:16 160:2,6,14 | compiling
193: 19 |\n| 35:10,19 36:1,23 | client
120:2,8,9,11 | 162: 11 | complete
168: 18 |\n| 37:21206:14,19 | 120: 15,20 121:3, 7 | comley
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88:24 | 175:8 |\n| check
3: 18 9:6, 14 | 122:23 126: 1 | committee
3: 10 | completed
214:7 |\n| 10:7,9,9 34: 1 | clients
119:5,9,18 | 8:5 | 214:17 215:6 |\n| 52:21,21 53:1,6,17 | 120:18 121:19 | communicate
17:1 | completion
215: 10 |\n| 127:21 131: 13,13 | | 69:17 70:15,19,21 | |\n\n### **[complicated** - **court]**\n\n| complicated
17:24 | console
129: 18 | 31:21,22 33:17,23 | 16: 14 19:21 20:3 |\n|-----------------------|------------------------|------------------------|-------------------------|\n| complies
21: 1, 12 | constraints
164: 10 | 36:17 39:14 43:1 | 26:141:2153:7,9 |\n| 23:4 28:25 29:4 | consult
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15 :7 | 91: 16 97: 15 | 214: 18,21 215:7 |\n| composed
121: 13 | contains
189: 16 | 104: 19,23 105:21 | counsel's
150: 10 |\n| computer
19:25 | contested
37:4 | 106:17 108:21 | 153:17,18 154:3 |\n| 212: 14 | 130: 19 | 111:2,4,5,7 117:2 | 154:24 |\n| con
26:11 | context
26: 12 | 121:16,18 129:23 | counsels
16:5 |\n| concerned
21:4 | continue
193:1 | 135:25 136:21 | 144:25 |\n| 76:6 158: 17 | continued
3:1 5:1 | 137:5,11,12,25 | count
80:3 |\n| concerns
71 :22 | contributed
122: 1 | 139: 12 142:8,10 | countless
159: 14 |\n| 126:25 128:22 | 122:7 | 142:11,12 145:12 | countries
175 :23 |\n| 185:9 | controls
122:6 | 149: 1 155:6,24 | country
27: 14 |\n| concludes
209:7 | conversation | 157: 13 161: 15 | 115:23 116:8 |\n| conclusion
52:3 | 139: 10 162:7,19 | 166: 15 175: 11 | county
211:2 |\n| conditions
146: 14 | 178: 14 191:7 | 185:13 187:17,19 | 212:2 |\n| conduct
155: 17 | conversations | 189: 1,2,5,6, 10, 12 | couple
10:2119:3 |\n| conducted
14: 10 | 16:13 77:22 | 189: 18 190:4,5,20 | 73:8 97: 13 109:22 |\n| 80:25 128:24 | 149:19 171:22 | 190:25 192:21 | 110:1135:15 |\n| 155:2 | 178:7 | 198:7 202:21 | 138:20 149:7 |\n| confess
67:7 | convince
181:7,7 | 205:7,13 211:9,13 | 208:4 |\n| confirm
92:7 | convinced
180: 1 | 212: 16 | course
14:21 47:7 |\n| 198:9 203:18 | cooperate
78 :20 | corrected
75:22 | 48:18,20,23 61:18 |\n| 206:23 | coordinate
118: 12 | 75:23,24 76:4 | 81:24 85:2 121:20 |\n| confusing
22:25 | copy
210:3,7 | correction
29: 18 | 126:2 130:5 131:7 |\n| 121: 10 | 57: 1
corner | 46:20 76:6 91:5 | 135:6 137: 15 |\n| confusion
22: 19 | corporate
1: 16 | 169:17 | 142: 18 147:3,3 |\n| 23:8 | 9: 19 15:3 44:21 | corrections
214: 14 | 154: 18 170:23 |\n| connecticut
1 :2 | corporation
4:21 | 214: 15 215:3,4 | 174:19 181:13 |\n| 2:23 3:12 7:13 | 23:24 34:1168:13 | correctly
75: 1 | court
1: 1 7: 12, 19 |\n| connolly
170: 16 | 168:21 170: 15 | 107:21 172:5,16 | 8:18 10:4,11,11 |\n| 170:19 172:2,3,7,9 | corporation's | 192:19 | 11:22 14:23 48:2 |\n| 172: 19 | 168:3 | costs
177:8, 16 | 50: 11 57:8 85:3 |\n| consecutive
24:6 | correct
16: 1 18:4 | counsel
7:21 9:20 | 146: 11 194:9 |\n| 25:2 | 24: 19,21 30: 11,12 | 10:15 12:20 16:13 | |\n| | | | |\n\n[courts - described]\n\n| 37:14 38:8
courts | d | debtor 1:9 2:4 8:8 | department 3:4 |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|---------------------|\n| 15:773:15
cover | 2:21 4:1 148:25
㊠| 8:10 40:6 41:24 | 87:9,12 128:1 |\n| 177:15 | dad
199:13 | 53:11,23 85:12 | 155:1,9,16,23 |\n| covered 37.9 | 128:16
daily | 131:4,10,25 132:7 | 99:4
depo |\n| covid
16:5 | 142:17,19 149:24 | 132:15,19 134:21 | deponent's 209:21 |\n| craig
193:11,14 | 151:2 179:6,8 | 135:3,10 137:4 | deposed 13:22 |\n| create
43:19 44:2 | 208:5,8 | 156:19 186:14 | 14:1,5,12 36:8,16 |\n| created 43:20 | daniel
148:24 | debtor's 53:24 | 90:7 92:20 94:6 |\n| 114:13.24 115:8 | date 23:17 29:13 | 131:17,17,18 | deposition 1:14 |\n| 115:15,16 116:6,8 | 30:24 31:7 33:17 | debtors
146:16 | 5:11 7:9,15 11:7 |\n| 117:6 123:9 | 36:8 73:17 104:5 | decide
106:22 | 11:21 13:25 14:4 |\n| credentials 9:25 | 168:3,9 214:16 | 107:11 | 14:10 15:8,12,20 |\n| 10:8 | 215:5 216:24 | decided
183:1 | 16:10,24 17:2,12 |\n| credit
99:21 | dated 4:16,24 5:7 | decides
183:6 | 17:16,20 18:7.19 |\n| 101:21,25 102:14 | 5:15 73:16 213:1 | decision
134:20 | 19:7 20:1,8 21:7 |\n| 102:16,17,22,23 | 14:2,2 21:5
dates | 135:1,8,12,14,17 | 28:17 29:17 37:4 |\n| 102:25 129:4 | daughter 84:9 | 135:19,21,24 | 37:18 38:6 43:5 |\n| 195:10 196:11 | david 2:11 7:24 | 136:3 137:3.5.6.14 | 47:24 48:2,25 |\n| 198:6,20 202:20 | 10:20 65:12 116:2 | 137:17,18,25 | 55:10 65:19 73:17 |\n| 203:7,23 204:11 | 153:15 156:9 | 142:19 143:8 | 76:20 80:25 95:8 |\n| creditor 2:11,21 | 157:22 187:23 | 152:8,10 153:19 | 95:15 96:17 109:5 |\n| 7:11 9:20 128:24 | 209:12 | 154:3,22 164:19 | 116:12 125:18 |\n| creditors 3:10 8:6 | 49:3,6,7 50:15
day | 165:10 179:5,8,20 | 130:15,18 133:17 |\n| 194:25 | 69:22 109:2 | 180:20 181:11,20 | 133:21 134:5 |\n| 127:2
credits | 127:19,20 139:25 | 181:21 183:12 | 145:13 156:21 |\n| 75:7
crystal | 140:1 145:21 | 184:2 201:1 | 162:13 163:1 |\n| 1:25 213:4
csr | 163:7,10 168:15 | 142:14
decisions | 166:23 209:15,17 |\n| culture 49:23,24 | 173:15 194:22,22 | 142:17 164:2 | 209:20 211:6,8,11 |\n| 49:24 | 195:15,15 196:5,5 | 178:25 | 212:9,10,12 |\n| current 45:1 | 208:15,15 211:14 | 211:12
declare | 214:19,22,24 |\n| 125:10 129:3 | 213:1 | 146:20,25
default | 215:8,10 |\n| 148:17 150:5.19 | 2:13 3:7
dc. | 147.8 | depositions
11:2 |\n| 151:24 153:3 | deal 195:21 | defendant
૚૪-9 | 14:24 |\n| currently 124:14 | 206:11 | definitely
59:22 | describe 85:15 |\n| 150:2 152:18 | debate 125:19 | de aware 4:21 5:4 | 92:23 174:15 |\n| 156:4.7 157:2.4 | 102:24 103:4
debit | 167:16 168:4,22 | 175:16 179:3 |\n| 190:3 | 103:7,13 104:6,10 | 171.9 | described 68:22 |\n| cute
104:2 | 104:15,22,24 | delay 19:12 44:6 | 69:670:17 91:22 |\n| | 105:1 198:7,23 | delivered 210:7 | 117:12 120:14 |\n| | 202:12,19 203:7 | 58:4
dep | 124:22 186:11 |\n| | 203:24 204:11 | | |\n| | | | |\n\n[description - employee]\n\n| description
4:11 | direct 21:10 84:4 | discuss 126:1 | driver
35:10 |\n|---------------------|----------------------|----------------------|---------------------------------------|\n| 5:2 | 91:4 158:5 | 140:21 141:2 | 19:10
drop |\n| 187:5
designed | directed 27:7 | discussion
174:21 | 16:5
due |\n| 118:11
designer | 192:15,20 | 132:4
displaying | 169:8
dug |\n| details
36:15 | direction 82:2 | disregard 125:2 | duly 9:1.11.21 |\n| 64:23 105:12 | 117:17 190:24 | district 1:2 7:12 | 168:13,20 212:9 |\n| 113:15 147:2 | directly 99:22 | dive
198.8 | duties 26:18,23 |\n| 153:3 181:16 | 100:8,9 101:1 | diversified 45:15 | 44:17 45:7 46:4 |\n| determined | 103:24 110:10 | 114:11 | 69:6 77:23 169:15 |\n| 214:18,22 215:7 | 159:4,8,22 177:18 | division
1:37:13 | duty 27:2 149:9 |\n| develop 115:18 | director 4:19 28:9 | document 20:5,7 | 196:23
dwell |\n| 117:15 174:21 | 32:14 38:18,19,22 | 21:24 28:14 43:16 | dwelling 72:9,10 |\n| device | 42:23,25 43:24 | 43:18,22 44:2 | e |\n| dharbach
2:14 | 45:25 46:13 47:20 | 56:18 61:13 62:24 | 4:1,9 38:14,23 |\n| dictionary
60:9 | 49:5 56:9 97:20 | 63:9 167:1.4 | e
39:9 147:15 |\n| difference
101:8 | 98:3 110:19 123:7 | 169:8,12,14 170:2 | 148:25 212:18 |\n| 176:17 | 134:19 142:6 | 171:8 172:21 | 214:9,12 215:1 |\n| different 116:11 | 175:13 181:19 | documentation | 216:3,3,3 |\n| 120:14 127:15 | directors 34:16 | 170:21 | earlier 47:1 53:11 |\n| 136:18,20 166:2 | 37:10 148:18 | documented | 77:22 87:14 99:9 |\n| 175:23 | 168:20 | 187:21,25 188:1,8 | 118:5 158:22 |\n| difficult 195:2 | disagree
129:8 | 189:4,12 190:17 | 176:15 182:9 |\n| dip 37:5,11 42:3 | 156:22 158:7 | documents 15:16 | 188:4 193:15 |\n| 42:13 66:12 94:21 | 183:5,9 184:4 | 15:18 166:16 | 195:9 207:12 |\n| 125:15 130:20 | 193:1 | 169:11 170:7 | 208:16 |\n| 131:22,23 132:1,4 | disagreed 137:13 | 184:15 185:12,14 | 39:16
ease |\n| 132:9,11,23 134:7 | 179:15 180:19 | 186:11 190:3,7 | 7:3 184:20
east |\n| 134:8,21 135:2,9 | 183:1,11 | 207:13 | 190:3 |\n| 136:18,23 137:4 | disagreement | doing 11:21 45:10 | 14:19.19
eastern |\n| 137:18 138:3,19 | 179:19 181:22 | 45:11 80:22 93:5 | efficient 87:15 |\n| 139:2,5,14 140:12 | 182:3 | 115:21 117:17 | 83:19,22 |\n| 140:21 142:21,23 | disagreements | 128:1 141:6 | eight
84.2 |\n| 144:5,11,18 145:9 | 179:23 181:3 | 160:19 | |\n| 145:17,21 146:8 | disappeared 48:11 | dollars 179:1,9,12 | eighteenth 72:20
either 16.13.38.7 |\n| 146:21,25 147:2,8 | disclose 124:24,24 | 179:20,21 180:21 | 48:10 59:22 63:19 |\n| 147:19 158:18 | 150:10 | 183:13 184:3 | elected
168:20 |\n| 159:2,6,14,16 | disclosing
16:12 | drafted 58:18 | |\n| 160:25 162:11,13 | 42:11 | 63.75 68.8 | employed
36:1 |\n| 162:23 163:11,15 | disclosure
130:15 | drill
171-5 | employee 35:14,20 |\n| 176:17 177:3 | 130:23 | 194:8
drive | 78:15,16,18 79:4 |\n| 180:7 | | | 81:9,15 84:13
85:19,23,24 86:4,6 |\n| | | | |\n\n[employee - family]\n\n| 123:7 151:12,17 | estate 47:15 51:9 | 44:10 46:18,21 | 37:13 38:8
extend |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|-------------------------------------|\n| 153:3 154:13 | 51:17 114:10 | 47:6 55:9,10,19 | extended 176:10 |\n| 155:7 156:10 | 115:20 117:22,24 | 56:2,4,9,13 57:1 | 185:8
extra |\n| employees 34:21 | 117:25 118:9,11 | 62:5,16,23 64:9 | 2:12
eye |\n| 37:10 48:10 78:15 | 181:4 182:6 | 67:5.19.21 73:11 | f |\n| 151:13 156:6,12 | 183:15,19 184:5 | 83:13,15 87:16,23 | 116:22 147:15 |\n| 157:1,2 158:3 | 68:12
et | 87:24 88:1,2 91:4 | facilitate 118:12 |\n| 192:20 206:15 | events 146:19,24 | 91:5,6 166:20,23 | fact 50:22 80:16 |\n| 208:12 | 147.7 | 167:9,12 171:17 | 80:20 89:4 123:2 |\n| employer 153:5,17 | everybody 19:11 | 172:8 209:15,16 | |\n| 153:19 154:3,7,20 | 163:19 173:24 | 209:17,22 | 169:17,22
factor
153:19 |\n| 154:25 155:6 | evidencing 207:17 | exhibits 5:1 19:15 | 154-3 |\n| empowered | 71:14 184:23
exact | 20:16 209:15 | |\n| 142:14 | exactly 98:17 | 145:18
existed | facts 32:8 166:9 |\n| endured
208:24 | 180:15 | 115:18
expand | failure 168:18
172:24 |\n| 129:7
engage | examination 4:3 | 122:15
expect | |\n| 8:25,25
english | 10:17 | 124:10 158:18,21 | fair 60:18 72:23
74:1 90:6 94:14 |\n| 9:10,10 10:10 | examined
14:5 | expectation 50:12 | 162:20 170:5 |\n| 11:3,5,6,7,11,25 | 94:6
example | expected
184:10 | 173:17 |\n| 29:25 38:23 39:22 | 95:23 99:3 102:2 | expecting
169:6 | |\n| 40:16 50:2 55:16 | 102:5,6 105:10 | expedition 37:13 | familiar 144:5,11
146:19 186:20 |\n| 62:25 63:25 79:19 | 106:19 108:11 | 100:11
expenses | |\n| 86:4 98:10 144:4 | 143:6 179:5 | 192:15 193:20,23 | families
86:25 |\n| 144:19 201:20 | 183:10,23 184:2,2 | 194:3 | family 24:24 29:11 |\n| 203:4,7,14,15 | 184:7 198:14,16 | expensive
108:6.9 | 29:23 30:6,9,10,13 |\n| 205:14,17 | 200:72201:18 | 194:14 | 30:17,19 31:2,15 |\n| ensure
98:24 | 203:22 | 45:1
experience | 31:18,20 48:9 |\n| ensured
98:6 | 182:3,5
examples | 161:24 | 52:1,17,23 54:22 |\n| 98:4
ensuring | 182:10,16 205:4 | explain 20:4 41:21 | 58:12,17 68:2,7 |\n| 118:15
enterprise | 20:11
exceeds | 64:5 75:3 151:8 | 81:11 84:8 85:6,6 |\n| 175:17 | 15:11 56:5
excuse | 177:13 200:14 | 85:7,11,25 86:5,6 |\n| entire 48:8 84:17 | 58:5 128:3 163:18 | explained 93:7 | 86:12,17 87:7 |\n| 85:7 129:15 155:7 | 194:4 | 175:6 176:16 | 91:15,20 95:7 |\n| 164:18 170:14 | 65:10
executed | 180:25 182:4 | 113:6,7 115:16 |\n| 174:19 | 211:14 | 183:17 | 118:3,4,7,22 119:6 |\n| errata 214:14,16 | executing
166:13 | explanation 26:3 | 119:7,8,9,19,22 |\n| 215:3,5 | exhibit 4:11,12,16 | explore 42:193:5 | 120:12,15,17,23 |\n| 107.18
escalate | 4:19,23 5:2,3,3,9 | 116:3 | 121:3,8,13,15,17 |\n| 143.8 | 19:6,7 20:15 | exploring 44:23 | 121:17,23,24
122:22 123:21 |\n| established 66:11 | 28:17,20 32:20,21 | 65:24 | 124:5 157:17 |\n| | 33:8 35:2 43:5 | | 164:16.17.23 |\n| | | | |\n\n## [family - fourteen]\n\n| 176:10,10 181:16 | figure 26:9 111:10 | finishing 173:25 | follow 32:4 102:15 |\n|----------------------|----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|\n| 182:17 183:20 | 128:11 135:14 | 171.4
fire | 168:23 197:12,18 |\n| 184:24 205:8,9,12 | 143:3,11,21 144:3 | firm 7:17,19 15:14 | followed
164:15 |\n| famous 208:1 | 187:16 | 15:25 17:21,22 | following
109:2 |\n| far
37:6,10 95:14 | 102:13
figuring | 18:6 60:25 124:8 | follows 9:2,12,22 |\n| 98:19 124:3 | 195:2 | 193:5 | 58:11 214:8 |\n| 158:16 160:4 | file 20:19 168:18 | firm's 17:23,25 | food 95:25 99:9,20 |\n| 164:9 165:3 180:6 | 172:24 | 17:21 114:3
firms | 99:20 107:12,22 |\n| 187:15 198:21 | filed 7:11 57:7 | first 9:21 23:17 | 141:18 |\n| father 53:20 68:25 | 65:25 167:23 | 25:13 30:4 50:5 | foods 204:17 |\n| 69:12 91:20 92:18 | 168:19 171:8 | 52:10 55:1,21 | 205:5 |\n| 92:19 96:1,4 | 173:8 | 56:16 58:4 62:23 | foregoing 211:5 |\n| 98:16 99:6 108:24 | filing 168:3 | 62:25 69:7 75:3,7 | 211:13 212:8,15 |\n| 109:2 113:13 | 191:21
fill | 86:10 87:6 139:4 | forgeries 170:8 |\n| 117:18 119:15 | filling 192:4 | 139:7 143:15 | forget 29:14 30:24 |\n| 122:24 134:9 | finance
128:1 | 144:14 145:16,21 | 75:23 |\n| 136:2 143:7 | 160:24 162:10 | 153:8,13 162:9,23 | forgive
185:8 |\n| 175:25 176:6 | 190:23 196:12,12 | 163:3,7,10 168:15 | 31:8
forgot |\n| 177:22 180:11,12 | 197:8 198:8 199:7 | 174:19 201:5 | form 13:1 121:5 |\n| 182:19,20,22 | 199:13 | 212:11 | 211:7 |\n| 191:8 196:11 199:9 | financial 46:14,16 | fishing 37:13 | 189:17
formal |\n| 199:11,23 201:9 | 47:13,22 49:8,9,13 | five 4:18 5:7 29:7 | formed
18:10,11 |\n| 206:22 | 49:20 50:3,19,22 | 33:1.7 41:13 59:3 | 147:14,21
forsyth |\n| father's
95:24 | 127:25 189:8,11 | 59:5 79:24 80:7 | forth
141:24,25 |\n| 100:18 134:9 | 189:22 191:22 | 85:21 168:11 | 142:3 195:10 |\n| 182:18 201:11 | 192:5 | fix 170:25 173:15 | 212:11 |\n| february 33:11,17 | financials
101:16 | 173:19 | forty 4:14 20:20 |\n| 33:23 35:14,17 | 37:5
financing | 167:8
fixing | 29:3,5 35:4 46:23 |\n| federal 5:13 | 131:4,11 132:19 | floor
72:20 | 47:1,3,4,8 83:19 |\n| 212:18 215:1,8,9 | 132:24 134:21 | flow 127:10,12,13 | 83:22 84:2 88:8 |\n| 107:2
fee | 135:3,10 136:23 | 127:14 | 88:14 |\n| feel
98:13 153:2 | find 23:1 110:3,23 | focus 23:17 33:16 | forward 53:20 |\n| 200:16 | 151:4 204:18 | 136:22 163:9 | 88:7 |\n| feeling 154:15 | fine 11:11 54:14 | focused
165:10 | four 21:25 22:13 |\n| 107:5
fees | 61:10 158:13 | focusing
166:6 | 22:13 30:2 36:6 |\n| fifteen 17:8,9,9 | 160:20 | 193:22 | 36:10,14 56:14 |\n| 138:20 | finish 12:3 63:5 | folder | 61:1964:22 65:8 |\n| fifth 197:21 | 78:5,7 | 28:20 | 91:7,9 116:22 |\n| 198:16, 19 | finished 84:20,22 | folders
19:18 | 142:7 |\n| fifty 59:7 | 116:20 205:24 | folks
112:9 163:17 | fourteen
157:4 |\n| | | | |\n\n[frame - golden]\n\n| 140:9
frame | 107:7 150:5,9,10 | going
7:6 13:3 | 51:24 52:14 54:20 |\n|-------------------------|----------------------|--------------------|-------------------|\n| frank
147:15 | 150:19 151:6,12 | 18:20 19:6 26:4 | 58:6,21,22,23 |\n| frep
215:1 | 151:24 152:18,23 | 26:15,21,25 28:13 | 59:21 65:21 67:25 |\n| frequency
109:1 | 153:9,17,18 154:2 | 29:2 37:1,12 42:9 | 68:10,11,16,23 |\n| frequently 69:17 | 154:24 156:1 | 43:3 44:10 53:20 | 69:2,8,9,14 71:4 |\n| 70:25 80:1 83:1 | 157:11,14 179:12 | 62:13 66:3,7,12,14 | 71:12 72:1,8 |\n| 108:13,23 140:13 | 183:4 201 :25 | 66:21 75:17 84:3 | 73:22 74:21,24 |\n| friend
80:6 | generally
15:12 | 87:13 90:10 91:4 | 77:18,21,25 78:12 |\n| 67:20
front | gentleman 35:11 | 96:6 97:9 99:7.7 | 78:19 79:7.15.18 |\n| fulfill
70:16 | getting 107:25 | 112:12 125:2,4,18 | 80:5,11,12,13,18 |\n| full 23:24 174:24 | 128:10 204:24 | 125:24 126:3,23 | 80:22 81:3,6 |\n| 175:8 | give 26:3 44:5 | 129:2 132:17 | 86:22 90:4,9,18 |\n| 129:7 130:21
fully | 71:17 82:1 96:2 | 135:13 136:6 | 91:16,17,18,24 |\n| fund
2:12 5:10 | 96:24 104:4 | 146:17 150:7.13 | 92:9,16 93:6 95:4 |\n| 9:21 99:4,8 | 105:10 153:3,8,8,8 | 158:5,20,24 | 95:24 97:2,20 |\n| 114:15,15 115:7 | 163:17 166:18 | 161:13 163:11.15 | 98:3,23 99:11 |\n| 143:6 159:2,6,16 | 182:21 183:25 | 166:19 174:2 | 100:16 102:7,22 |\n| 163:11 176:19 | 186:6 198:14,22 | 183:5,22 206:1 | 102:23,25 103:4,7 |\n| funded 114:12,23 | 198:24 205:19 | 207:11,14 208:10 | 103:9 104:6,10,13 |\n| 115:12 | 11:2 29:19
given | golden 2:21 4:20 | 104:14,17,22,24 |\n| funding 42:13 | 75:12 96:16,19 | 5:3,11 7:10 8:3 | 105:8 107:15,18 |\n| 136:2,16 180:10 | 108:2 136:4 200:7 | 15:3,20 16:9,22 | 108:3 109:4,11,13 |\n| funds 99:6 101:15 | 209:7212:16 | 17:2,4,10 18:9,11 | 109:18,21,22,25 |\n| 127:8 160:24 | 26:11,11
gives | 18:15,16,17,18,20 | 110:7,14,17,20,25 |\n| 162:10,24 | giving 204:22 | 18:21,24 21:5 | 111:11,17 113:21 |\n| furniture 194:14 | 11:7 20:13,16
àŽ³àµàŽ³ | 22:8 23:11,20,24 | 114:12,15,23 |\n| 208:12 | 23:1,2 31:9 32:20 | 23:25 24:2,3,12,13 | 115:8,12,14,16 |\n| further 37:2 | 32:25 35:4 46:18 | 24:14,18,21,23 | 116:5,8 117:6,10 |\n| 212:20 | 52:8 54:2 55:21 | 25:6,16,18 27:6,10 | 118:7,14 119:4,13 |\n| g | 56:8,21 57:4,14,25 | 27:15 28:9 30:8 | 119:13,18,23 |\n| 17:5,5 30:8,9 | 66:18 74:3 75:6,6 | 32:10,13,15 33:12 | 120:12,20,23,24 |\n| g
38:22,23,24 39:9,9 | 75:13,24 82:5,20 | 33:18 34:1,3,7,9 | 121:1,4,15,19 |\n| 39:12,12 86:14 | 83:9,13,18 88:1 | 34:13,16,22,25 | 122:1,7,13,20,21 |\n| 112:24 | 100:4 106:3 | 35:14,20 36:2,24 | 123:8,13 124:11 |\n| gasoline
11:8 | 107:15 108:5 | 37:21 38:1,18 | 124:21 125:7,14 |\n| gasolines
109:14 | 129:3 144:23 | 40:9,18,22 41:4,17 | 125:22 126:21,25 |\n| 109:14 | 153:25 167:9,11 | 42:2,5,21 43:25 | 127:7,8,9,17 |\n| gather 171:12 | 183:9 196:20 | 44:15,17,21,25 | 128:12,19,20,23 |\n| 188:7 | 197:2,6 202:9,12 | 45:7,17,21,25 46:6 | 129:14,17 130:11 |\n| general 27:4 46:7 | goes 47:7,1684:2 | 46:13 47:10,21 | 130:15 131:3,9 |\n| 46:8 71:20 107:4 | 197:14 201:8 | 49:5,19 50:24 | 132:18,21,22,23 |\n| | | | |\n\nರಿಚ\n\n| 133:7,16 134:19 | granted
130:21 | 138:21 139:11 | happened 32:8 |\n|--------------------|-------------------|----------------------|--------------------|\n| 135:2,9 136:1,17 | groceries 201:19 | 143:1,4 144:2 | 47:24 85:18 |\n| 137:7,10 140:25 | 201:20 202:5,11 | 147:18 148:3,5,10 | 105:13,17 106:25 |\n| 141:24 148:6,12 | 203:24 204:12,16 | 148:19 157:8 | 122:15 136:14 |\n| 148:15,18 150:2,6 | grocery 99:20 | 159:3,7,10,22 | 138:1,19,19 |\n| 150:20 151:11,25 | 100:21 201:21,24 | 161:2 163:12 | 170:13,23 173:3 |\n| 152:19,24 153:1 | 202:9, 10, 12 | 164:18 165:21 | 173:15,19 182:23 |\n| 153:10 156:1,6,18 | 203:22 205:3 | 172:7,12 175:12 | 183:8 199:9 |\n| 157:3,22 158:16 | grounds 120:1 | 175:17 177:18 | 85:16
happens |\n| 158:17,20 159:13 | guess 97:12 | 178:2,6,15,20 | 195:2 196:2.9 |\n| 160:21,24 163:21 | 165:11 | 179:16 180:7,20 | 197:22 198:2 |\n| 164:10,14 165:16 | guo
17:4 24:24 | 182:19 183:1,5 | 199:2 |\n| 165:22 166:4,14 | 29:10,23 30:6,8,9 | 187:5 189:20 | 12:12
happy |\n| 168:9 169:3, 15,25 | 30:10,13,17,19 | 191:3,8 194:16,16 | 38:8
harass |\n| 170:14,20 171:14 | 31:2,15,17,19,25 | 199:4,8,11,12,15 | harassed 125:14 |\n| 172:10 173:1,4 | 32:5 34:14 38:21 | 199:17,22 200:8 | harassment 42:14 |\n| 174:16 175:3,13 | 39:8,9,12,21 40:3 | 201:7 206:11,21 | 124:22 |\n| 176:23 177:7,14 | 40:8,17,24 41:6 | guo's 53:20 68:10 | harbach 2:11 4:5 |\n| 177:18 178:1,3 | 45:9 46:2 48:9 | 76:9 89:14 94:9 | 7:23,24 10:18,20 |\n| 180:5 184:10 | 53:2,5,12 55:3 | 106:2 113:12 | 12:23 13:2,5,10,11 |\n| 185:3 186:9,14 | 68:24 69:10,18 | 136:2 137:4 | 16:17 19:9,20,22 |\n| 187:4 188:25 | 70:10 75:22 76:12 | 142:15 170:18 | 19:24 20:6, 14, 17 |\n| 190:14,18,23 | 76:25 77:9,13,17 | 178:23 201:12 | 26:5,21 27:8 |\n| 191:10 192:3,11 | 77:22 78:12 79:14 | h | 28:15,19 29:17,21 |\n| 192:15 193:18 | 79:17 80:17,21 | 4:9 39:13,14
n | 37:16 38:10 40:15 |\n| 194:2,7,8 195:4,7 | 81:4,7,10,13,19 | 147:15,16 148:25 | 41:1,23 42:7,15,18 |\n| 195:15,22 198:22 | 85:6,7,24 86:5,6 | 171:25 216:3 | 42:19 43:7,9 44:6 |\n| 198:24 199:14 | 86:12,17,21,24 | habit
64:24 | 44:9,23 45:5 52:7 |\n| 201:10,23 202:7 | 87:7 90:19 92:3 | half 36:10,1484:5 | 52:12,20,24 53:3,8 |\n| 202:10 206:8,13 | 95:23 96:9 97:14 | hand 8:20 9:5.15 | 53:15,18 54:7,9,14 |\n| 206:22 207:14 | 98:15 99:4 100:15 | 57.1 167.72 | 54:17 55:4,7,8,13 |\n| 208:5,8 209:9 | 104:17 106:10,21 | handed 149:23 | 59:15 60:3 65:2,4 |\n| goldenspringny | 107:14,16,19,24 | handled
134:23 | 65:14,20 66:16 |\n| 214:2 | 109:23 110:10 | 214.8 | 67:3.7.17.18 71:8 |\n| good 7:5,23 8:1 | 113:7,10,23 | handling
78:19 | 71:9,21,24 73:4,6 |\n| 10:3,19 11:19 | 114:14 115:2,17 | handouts
118:10 | 76:17,19 83:10,12 |\n| 49:14 53:22 55:18 | 115:17,22 116:6 | hang
70:13 151:22 | 87:2,4 90:6,14 |\n| 56:20 88:11 | 116:18 117:7,7,13 | happen 127:20 | 93:194:22 95:21 |\n| 112:20 141:6 | 120:15 134:6,22 | 197:20 198:4,5,10 | 104:1,3 111:15,21 |\n| 197:25 | 134:25 135:1,8,18 | 198:17,17 | 111:23 112:1,6,11 |\n| | 136:3 137:13 | | 112:19 116:3,16 |\n\nવà«àª\n\n| 120:5,6 121:9,11 | held
7:15 | 1:8 2:5 7:11 8:8
ho | 204:21 205:11 |\n|--------------------|---------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|\n| 122:12 123:1,6 | 11:15 31:12
help | 39:18 40:6 41:16 | 206:1,14 214:4 |\n| 125:1,6 126:2,10 | 36:20 37:18 40:15 | 41:24 42:1 45:18 | 216:1 |\n| 126:15 127:4 | 51:6 52:5 73:15 | 45:22 52:1,16,22 | hold
119:24 142:7 |\n| 128:7,13 129:6,12 | 81:24.24 82:3 | 53:5,7,9,13,21 | holding 212:6 |\n| 130:1,24 131:2,8 | 89:13,15,20 90:19 | 54:22 58:9,16 | 70:14
holdup |\n| 131:19 133:12,14 | 106:2 131:5,14 | 66:7 68:2,6,11,20 | holley 3:5 8:15 |\n| 140:10,11 143:16 | 146:5 147:1 | 70:16 72:3,9,17 | holley.l.claiborn |\n| 143:19 144:1.8.17 | 153:22 166:20 | 77:1,4 81:4,9,15 | 3:8 |\n| 145:25 146:3 | 169:11,12 188:12 | 81:16,21 82:1,10 | home 72:16 73:2 |\n| 147:4,6,11 148:9 | 192:15 195:3,8 | 82:19,23 83:7 | 204:15 |\n| 150:11,17 153:13 | 200:20 | 84:15 85:1,13,19 | honest 50:8,12,17 |\n| 153:16,25 154:1 | helped 43:18 | 85:23 86:8 87:19 | 61:22 132:10 |\n| 154:23 156:15,24 | 120:25 | 88:18 89:5.13 | honestly 26:13 |\n| 157:25 158:14,15 | helpful 37:24 | 90:16 91:2,14 | 191.15 |\n| 159:24 161:6,10 | 38:24 92:24 94:1 | 92:10 93:14 94:16 | hong 18:16,18,20 |\n| 165:9,13 166:1,12 | helpfully 90:23 | 95:7 97:22 98:4 | 18:21,25 21:5 |\n| 166:21,25 167:5 | helping 191:20 | 98:24 99:13 100:8 | 22:6,8 23:11,12,20 |\n| 170:4 171:2 | 192:12 | 100:12,24 101:4 | 23:22 24:3,7,8,12 |\n| 173:22 174:9,12 | 36:22
helps | 101:12 102:17 | 24:13,21,23 25:1,3 |\n| 186:8,18,19 188:2 | hereof
212:11 | 103:13 104:5,9,14 | 25:3,3,6,7,16,19 |\n| 188:15,16 190:6 | 125:13
hesitant | 104:21 105:5,15 | 27:10,15,1630:5 |\n| 190:10 192:1,2,22 | hesitate
150:12 | 105:24 106:6,15 | 31:23 32:1,3,4 |\n| 193:4 196:22 | 173:24 | 106:23,24 107:8 | 44:15,18 45:7,17 |\n| 197:1 200:22 | hey 107:8 194:7 | 108:22 110:25 | 45:22 |\n| 201:16 204:5,8 | 195:17 | 111:13 115:3,6 | hope 55:14 146:1 |\n| 205:19,21 207:1,5 | hi
141:12 | 118:6 119:10,20 | hopefully 44:7 |\n| 207:11,21,24 | 154:9
high | 119:22 121:3,23 | 107:6 205:22 |\n| 208:3,23 209:2,12 | hire
152:8,14 | 121:25 122:6,21 | hopelessly
165:19 |\n| 209:12,19,25 | 153:19 154:4,6,9 | 136:18 139:13,18 | hopes
118:25 |\n| hard 200:2,3 | 86:8,11,17
hired | 140:14,21 149:21 | hoping 195:3,7 |\n| hartford 2:23 3:12 | 87:8,12 91:17 | 151:7,14 172:19 | hotel 27:12 102:2 |\n| head 66:9 176:14 | 151:25 169:2,23 | 176:23 177:6,16 | 102:4,7,8 |\n| 187:22 | 170:13,22 | 177:19 178:8,15 | house 3:11 72:12 |\n| hear 10:23,23 11:1 | hiring 152:25 | 178:17 186:1 | 72:14 201:21 |\n| 13:5 92:6 | 154:25 | 187:7,10 189:1,16 | 202:2 |\n| heard 10:20 39:5,6 | history 170:6 | 189:20 191:6,9,16 | housekeeping |\n| 52:22 111:9 134:6 | hit
37.7 | 192:13 193.20 | 10:21 |\n| 139:4,7,9 162:25 | hmmm
15:1 | 195:11 196:2 | 87:9,11 155:1,9
hr |\n| 163:13 172:4,16 | 114:18 115:5 | 199:19 200:4,24 | 155:16,23 |\n| 178:6 193:8 | | 201:1,6,24 204:20 | |\n| | | | |\n\n[huh - investment]\n\n| huh 54:2 101:2 | 118:9,10 151:12 | instruction 45:8 | interpreter
3:17 |\n|------------------------|----------------------|----------------------|---------------------|\n| 137:19 155:16 | 153:5 157:5,6 | 58:21 68:10,24 | 3:18 8:24 9:4,6,9 |\n| hull 1:25 7:19 | 170:14 179:6 | 69:10 89:14,22 | 9:14 10:2,4,5,7,9 |\n| 212:5 213:4 | income 118:17,18 | 91:18 94:9 96:2,9 | 10:10,11 11:8 |\n| humble 48:14 | 118:20 119:2 | 96:16,19,24 98:16 | 31:12 40:20,21 |\n| 49:24 50:7,21 | 123:14,18,21 | 98:18 106:2 108:2 | 52:5,21,22 53:1,4 |\n| hundred 4:17 | 124:9 | 125:2 130:24 | 53:6,14,17 54:7,10 |\n| 105:22 120:17 | incorporation
5:5 | 133:6 | 54:11,25 55:6 |\n| 82-15
hundreds | 168:4.9 | integrity
127:1 | 59:18 81:1 131:12 |\n| hurt 129:19 | indicated
188:4 | 128:22 | 131:13,14,15,16 |\n| 174:23 | indicates
57.21 | intend 15:6 | 133:11 143:13,18 |\n| hurted
175:7 | individually 121:7 | intended
146:1 | 143:22,23 144:8 |\n| husband 201:25 | inference
94:14 | intending 158:23 | 144:12,13 146:5 |\n| i | influence 13:13 | 80:5
interact | 147:1,9,24,25 |\n| identification
19:8 | inform
23:18 | interacted 74:23 | 153:22 154:5 |\n| 28:18 43:6 55:11 | information 16:20 | 79:6,14,19 80:10 | 200:18 201:3,4,14 |\n| 128:10 166:24 | 36:19 51:4 60:1 | 80:17
interacting | interpreters 8:19 |\n| 209:18 | 61:23 62:4,10 | 80:21 | interprets 40:20 |\n| identifying 156:13 | 64:2 130:8 156:8 | interaction 80:3 | 52:20 29:18 |\n| identity 127:5 | 156:14 | interest
146:11 | 131:12 |\n| 128:9 150:10 | informed
87:11 | 186:22,24 187:3,7 | interrupt 30:15 |\n| 153:18 154:2 | informs
26:10 | 187:11,13 189:16 | 75:19 150:12 |\n| ii 2:11 | inhouse
16:13 | interested 47:18 | interrupting 76:18 |\n| immediate 85:6 | 155:25 | 128:10 145:6,8 | 152:12
interview |\n| immediately | inoperative
166:7 | 212:22 | 152:15 154:6,15 |\n| 152:18,25 186:10 | 168:16 169:4,17 | interesting 151:4 | 154:15 |\n| impair
13:14 | 169:19,25 171:14 | interests
21:25 | interviews 118:10 |\n| important 11:21 | 172:23 173:2,13 | 52:16 54:21 58:8 | invade
146:1 |\n| impression 75:12 | input 180:8 | 58:16 68:2,6,20 | 120:25
invest |\n| inauthentic 170:8 | inquire 116:7 | 87:19 88:18 90:16 | 175:25 |\n| include 24:4 85:18 | insisting 76:11 | 91:3,14 95:7 | invested
176:5 |\n| 89:15 111:3,6 | instruct 20:11 | interfere 13:15 | investing 118:2 |\n| 125:3 157:8,12 | 26:15 37:2,14 | internal
102:11 | investment 114:11 |\n| 164:5 | 38:3 42:9 66:5,6 | interpret 8:24 9:1 | 115:20 117:20,25 |\n| included 119:19 | 66:14 67:15 | 9:9,11 183:22 | 118:23 123:16,22 |\n| 214:14 215:3 | 116:14 126:23 | 201:15 | 123:23 124:6 |\n| includes 119:10 | instructed 6:1 | interpreted 9:2,12 | 174:15.24 175:3.9 |\n| including 48:9 | 95:24 141:21 | 143:22 144:12 | 175:22 176:3 |\n| 84:8,12 89:14 | instructing 42:16 | 147:9,25 154:5 | 179:24 181:3,4,21 |\n| 91:20 92:18,19,21 | 67:9 129:9 | 188:6 201:3 | 183:15,19 |\n| 95.75 99.4 115.19 | | | |\n\nರಿಚ\n\n| investments | 154:14 174:19 | 12:12 14:22
know | 154:8,12,14 |\n|------------------------|----------------------|---------------------|--------------------|\n| 118:25 | 196:12 214:5 | 21:13,16 22:25 | 155:11 159:9.15 |\n| 118:24
invests | 216:2 | 28:1 31:6 32:21 | 160:13 161:1,2 |\n| invoice
148:7,15 | johnston 3:17 8:23 | 33:3 38:11,15,16 | 162:19 163:1,4,15 |\n| 148:16 | 10:6 11:15 12:15 | 39:11 41:23 48:24 | 163:16,23 165:4 |\n| involved 99:12 | 52:11 54:3 55:5 | 49:14 50:3 54:10 | 170:12,18,18,21 |\n| 124:20 133:2,5,10 | 59:15 98:11 131:8 | 55:1 26:18 59:9 | 170:23 172:20,25 |\n| 134:20,24 135:15 | 133:12 143:17 | 59:10,12,13,17 | 173:4,10,10,12,14 |\n| 135:16 143:24 | 144:10 147:5 | 60:7,9,10,19 61:4 | 175:12 180:15 |\n| 144:14 152:7,24 | 153:25 200:23 | 61:7,21 63:7,14,20 | 185:18 187:15 |\n| 164:7 179:20 | jonathan 3:10 8:4 | 64:6 70:2 73:21 | 191:3 192:9 193:5 |\n| 180:20 183:12 | judge 127:13 | 74:11,22 75:9 | 193:11,12 194:6 |\n| 191:4,20 192:4,12 | 1 28:8 | 76:13 77:19,25 | 194:22,23 195:9 |\n| 196:4 | judgment 23:19 | 78:4,11,14,16,17 | 197:5,15,17 |\n| involves
197-3 | 127:11,12,14 | 78:18 80:13 82:14 | 198:21 199:3,22 |\n| involving 13:24 | jumping 154:13 | 84:20 86:19 95:10 | 199:24 200:1 |\n| 178:25 179:9 | 3:4
justice | 100:10,12,23 | 201:10 203:6 |\n| 184-3 | k | 102:1,20 103:12 | 204:1,14,23,25 |\n| issue 41:20 127:10 | K
38:14,14 39:13 | 103:22 105:3 | 205:2,7,8 207:6,7 |\n| 127:12,13,14 | 39:13,14,14 | 107:9 108:15,15 | 208:23 |\n| 132:20 142:22 | 148:25 | 108:17,18,24,25 | knowledge 46:15 |\n| 149:8,11 153:12 | 3:10 8:4,4
kaplan | 109:1 110:6,9,19 | 46:17 47:14,15,22 |\n| 156:10 164:21 | 19:18 | 110:22 111:11,13 | 49:8,10,13,20,25 |\n| 183:12 | 2.9
kaulet | 111:14 112:6,23 | 50:19,23 51:10,18 |\n| issues 124:20 | keep 57:13 130:9 | 113:3,25 114:6 | 60:2 62:9 64:3 |\n| 128:25 157:20 | 132:17 151:20 | 115:11,13 116:25 | 104:21 105:2 |\n| 108.7
item | kenneth 2:5 8:7 | 117:1,5,9 120:7 | 121:25 122:4,5,11 |\n| j | 211:22212:2
kern | 122:15 124:3.3.8 | 133:18,24 143:25 |\n| jail
84:6,11 86:2,3 | kidnap 47:11 | 125:17 128:15,19 | 150:1 160:22 |\n| jalbert 193:11,14 | kidnapped 48:11 | 130:7 131:23 | 172:18 188:21 |\n| 1:8 7:14
jam | 84:11 86:2 | 132:1,9,11 133:3,9 | 206:24 207:4,10 |\n| 7:17 112:7
jeff | kids
121:20 | 133:11,15 134:1,1 | 175:18
known |\n| jeffrey 3:16 | kind
49:9 73:23 | 134:14 135:5,6 | knows
53:10,12 |\n| jerking 57:13 | 96:5 122:23 138:8 | 136:12 141:16,17 | 136:6 173 · 24 |\n| jerry 170:17,18,24 | 146:15 151:15 | 141:24 142:1 | kong 18:16,18,20 |\n| 171:18 172:9,9 | 163:22 195:21 | 143:2,10,20 | 18:21,25 21:5 |\n| jkaplan 3:13 | 203:11 206:17 | 144:15 145:18 | 22:6,8 23:11,12,20 |\n| job
34:15 65:21 | 141:18
kinds | 146:10,13,24 | 23:22 24:3,7,8,12 |\n| 66:1 93:5 149:9 | 53:11 75:11
knew | 147:7,12,14,17,21 | 24:13,21,23 25:1,3 |\n| 149:17 151:11,13 | 136:5 | 150:19,21 151:20 | 25:3,3,6,7,16,19 |\n| 151:21 154:12,13 | | 152:17 153:1,2,14 | 27:10,15,1630:5 |\n| | | | |\n\n| 31:23 32: 1,3,4 | 189:20 191:6,9,16 | lawyer
126: 17 | likes
197:6 |\n|----------------------|-----------------------------------------|------------------------|-------------------------|\n| 44:15,18 45:7,17 | 191:21192:4 | 132:5 150: 18 | limit
138:4,8 |\n| 45:22 | 193 :20 194: 1 | 172:1 | limited
2:22 4:21 |\n| korean
35:10 | 195:1,11196:2 | lawyers
17:20,20 | 5:12 17:4 18:9,11 |\n| kwok
1:8 2:5 7:11 | 197:20 198:20 | 18:6 62:24 155:25 | 18:17 43:25 46:1 |\n| 8:8 37:25 38: 11 | 199: 19 200:4,24 | 208:2 | 47:2151:2452:14 |\n| 38: 14 39:6 40:6 | 201:1,24 204:21 | learn
48: 17 142:24 | 54:20 58:7 59:21 |\n| 41: 16,24 42:4 | 205: 11 206: 1,14 | 191: 1 | 90:18 91:16,24 |\n| 45:18,22 52:1,16 | 206: 19 214:4 | learned
114:2, 14 | 92:9 93:6 95:4 |\n| 52:16,22,22 53:5,7 | 216:1 | 114:25 134:4 | 98:3,23 99: 12 |\n| 53:9,13,21 54:22 | kwok's
39: 18 42: 1 | 140:12 146:15 | 103:10 104:13 |\n| 58:9,16 66:7 68:2 | 74: 15 76:22 87: 19 | 162:10,23 163:7 | 110: 18,20 111: 12 |\n| 68:6,11,19 70:16 | 88: 17 90: 16 91:2 | 163 : 10 1 71: 13 | 113:21114:23 |\n| 72:3,9, 17 74: 11 | 97:3,22,22 98:4 | 176:9,12 | 115:8,12 117:6,10 |\n| 75:11,13,25 76:25 | 100: 12,24 103: 13 | lease
208:11,19 | 118:8,14 119:5 |\n| 77:1,4 81:4,9,15 | 104:5,9,14 110:25 | leased
111 :6, 12 | 120:12 121:4,16 |\n| 81:16,21 82:1,10 | 177: 16 192:8,13 | leaving
25:2 127:5 | 122:2,8, 14 124: 11 |\n| 82:19,23 83:7 | 201:6 204:20 | 175:2 193:17 | 127:7,18 128:12 |\n| 84:15 85:1,10,10 | 206:9 | left
30:3 31:8 67:8 | 131:10 133:16 |\n| 85:13,19,23 86:8 | kwong
75:9
C--------~-----------j | legal
7:18,2052:2 | 134:20 137: 11 |\n| 88:18 89:5,5,13 | 1 | 59:22,25 60:12,14 | 148: 18 156:7 |\n| 91:14 92:10 93:14 | 1 3:5,638:14,23 | 61: 13,21 107:2,5 | 157:3 158: 18 |\n| 94: 16 95:7, 12 | 170:17 171:25 | 182:18 209:11 | 160:22 163 :22 |\n| 98:24 99: 13 100:8 | 2: 12 9:21
1.p. | 214:7 | 165:22 166: 15 |\n| 101:4,12 102:17 | 1.p.'s
5: 10 | lender
42:3 131:25 | 168: 10 169:25 |\n| 103:3 104:21 | laid
164: 15 | 132:6 146: 16 | 172:10 175:14 |\n| 105:5,15,24 106:6 | language
30: 1 | lenders
139: 1 | 177: 15 180:6 |\n| 106: 15,23,24 | 39:23 50:2 62:25 | letter
153:9, 13 | 186: 10 192:3 |\n| 107:8,25 108: 12 | 63:25 64:168:4,8 | license
51:21 | 193:19 195:5,7 |\n| 108:22 109:7 | 79: 19 85:2,4 | licensed
51: 14 | 206:14 |\n| 111: 13 115:3,6 | 89:21 93: 16,17 | life
61:5,8 195:25 | limited's
119: 18 |\n| 118:6 119: 10,20 | 148:2 | 197:3 | 123:14 126:22 |\n| 119:22 121:3,23 | late
28:11 | lifestyle
68: 12 | 130:12 |\n| 121:25 122:6,21 | launched
175:18 | 96: 1 97:3,22 98:5 | limo
108: 17 |\n| 136: 18 139: 13, 18 | law
2:6, 12,16,22 | 98:24 99:9 100: 12 | limousine
108: 13 |\n| 140: 14,21,23 | 3:5,1115:14,24 | 107: 13 192: 14 | 108:15 |\n| 149:21151:7,14 | 17:23,25 60:25 | 193:20,23 194:3 | line
6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9 |\n| 172: 19 176:23 | 84: 10 114:3 124:8 | 194: 15 196:6 | 6:10,1122:4 23:9 |\n| 177:6,19 178:8,15 | laws
168:21 | lifetime
59: 1 | 29:7 33:8 35:8 |\n| 178:17 186:1 | lawsuit
174:22 | light
127:2 128:23 | 74: 10 84:2,2 85:9 |\n| 187:7,10 189: 1,16 | | 130: 16 185:9 | 88: 13 214: 15 |\n| | | | |\n\n| 215:4 216:4,7,10 | 132:4,6,13,13 | locked 214:12 | m |\n|---------------------|---------------------|----------------------|--------------------------------|\n| 216:13,16,19 | 133:1,2,4,6,16,19 | 215:1 | 2:15 38:14,23
m |\n| 37:3
lines | 133:20 134:5,7,8 | long 80:24 81:8,14 | 171:25 |\n| liquid
127:6,17 | 136:18,23 137:4 | 84:1,13 85:19,22 | ma'am
20:24 |\n| 128:6 | 137:18 138:3,19 | 85:24 86:4.6 87:3 | 21:15 54:4 56:5 |\n| list
37:6 | 139:2,5,14 140:13 | 96:3,11,12 97:2,4 | 57:16 71:5 83:23 |\n| listen 65:14 | 140:21 142:21,23 | 97:6 98:18 103:18 | 88:3 91:8 98:1,9 |\n| 160:20 | 144:6,11,15,18 | 115:25 116:7.17 | 145:5 146:22 |\n| litigation 13:23 | 145:9,17,22 146:8 | 117:5.5 145:1.3 | 169:7 190:15 |\n| 14:6 37:13 38:8 | 146:10,14,21,25 | 164:11 165:3 | maintained |\n| 130:16 136:1,16 | 147:2,8,19 158:19 | 207:2 | 170:25 |\n| 136:23 170:7 | 158:20 159:2,6,14 | longer 96:15 | maintaining |\n| 176:19,24 177:8 | 159:16 160:25 | look 23:933:7 | 126:25 |\n| 177:16 178:16 | 162:11.13.24 | 35:2.8 46:25 55:9 | major 79:17 |\n| 180:10 182:20 | 163:11.15 176:17 | 88:13 122:22 | 123:20 |\n| 184:9 186:13,21 | 177:3 180:7 | 168:11 | majority
78:19 |\n| 187:17 188:25 | 185:12,14 186:4 | looking 29:7 49:10 | majorly
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lot | 8:25,25 9:10,10 |\n| 40:17 72:16
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99:25 | 22:6 23:11
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mom | 29:22 | 194:7,8,9 195:17 | 32:3,11,13,15 |\n| moment 12:10 | multiple
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murray | 199:7 203:6 | 34:13,17,25 35:21 |\n| 37:17 44:5 60:17 | 167:10
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negotiation | 97:2 98:3,23 |\n| 176:4 178:11 | 64:3 76:7.9.14
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opportunity | p.m.
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sent | 136:4 138:4,8 | 21:14 22:12 25:11 | solicit
137:16 |\n| sentence 51:758:4 | 173:21 174:5 | 27:13,23 32:5,12 | solutions 7:18,20 |\n| 58:13 61:16 62:23 | shorthand 212:5 | 33:20 36:3 37:24 | 209:11 214:7 |\n| 84:17 | 19:5 21:7
show | 38:12,16,24 39:15 | somebody 113:25 |\n| sentences 47:17 | 26:2 28:13 43:3 | 39:20 40:7,11 | 155:22 |\n| separate
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shown | 43:11,20 45:20 | 39:13,18 40:6
son |\n| september 22:7 | shulman 170:17 | 46:17 47:25 49:11 | 74:15 76:22 77:1 |\n| seriously 174:23 | 170:24 171:18,22 | 50:4 51:4 52:6 | 77:5 84:8 85:11 |\n| serve 51:25 52:15 | 171:24 172:9,11 | 56:3,5 61:8 62:12 | 96:4 106:16,23 |\n| 54:21 58:8 69:11 | 172:18 | 63:16 64:8,22 | 177:22 180:11 |\n| 88:16 119:8 | 124:21
shut | 67:21 69:3,16 | 199:20 |\n| served
68:1,19,24 | 61:18 103:6
sic | 71:3 72:10,22 | son's
89:21 107:10 |\n| ઀ૠàªà«. રà«àª£à« વિ | side
183:8 | 76:4 78:5,6 80:19 | sorry 15:21 16:15 |\n| service 93:18 | sign 92:21 185:21 | 82:11 83:22 84:22 | 19:12 22:25 23:8 |\n| 95:12 120:24 | 214:16 215:5 | 88:2 91:6 92:1,24 | 44:6 45:19 46:20 |\n| 124:8 | signature 56:1,25 | 93:12 97:24 100:2 | 52:10,11 56:3 |\n| services
120:9 | 57:21 167:19 | 102:15 103:21 | 57:13 70:13 91:5 |\n| 148:12 | 213:3 214:21,23 | 104:7 108:8,24,24 | 97:24 98:6 104:2 |\n| serving 91:13 95:9 | 214:23 215:9 | 111:24 123:10 | 121:9 144:22 |\n| 113:21,22
set | signed 57:7559:1 | 124:13 138:19 | 145:2 147:23 |\n| 114:4,5,7 117:15 | 61:17,25 62:1,3,6 | 151:9 153:21 | 152:22 153:23 |\n| 170:15 195:17 | 62:8,17,18,19 63:9 | 156:3 164:12 | 167:2,10 171:5 |\n| 212:11 | 63:13,24 64:1,3,9 | 166:17 167:3 | 184:22 200:17 |\n| setting 128:4,6 | 64:20 66:9 67:6 | 169:5,21 170:12 | sort 114:9 141:12 |\n| | 67:23 91:12 171:8 | 179:13 183:14 | 202:19 |\n| | | | |\n\n**[sorts** - **started]**\n\n| sorts
89:25 | 18: 15, 16, 17, 18,20 | 109:4, 11, 13, 18,21 | 187:4 188:25 |\n|--------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|-------------------------|\n| sound
18:13 33:24 | 18:21,24 21 :5 | 109:22,25 110:7 | 190: 14,18 191: 10 |\n| 149:4 209: 1 | 22:8 23: 11,20,24 | 110: 14, 17,20,25 | 192:3, 11, 15 |\n| sounds
11:10 18:4 | 23 :25 24:2,3, 12, 13 | 111:11,17 113:21 | 193: 18 194:2, 7,8 |\n| 33:17 204:19 | 24: 14, 18,21,23 | 114:12,15,23 | 195:4,7, 15,22 |\n| source
115:7 | 25:6,16,18 27:6,10 | 115:8,12,14,16 | 198:22,24 199: 14 |\n| 118:17,18,20 | 27: 15 28:9 30:8 | 116:5,8 117:6, 10 | 201: 10,23 202:7 |\n| 119:2 123:14,17 | 32:10,13,15,19 | 118:7,14 119:4,13 | 202: 10 206:8, 13 |\n| 123:20 124:9 | 33: 12, 18,20,25 | 119:13,18,23 | 206:22 207: 14 |\n| 159: 1,5 160:24 | 34: 1,3,4, 7,9,9, 13 | 120: 12,20,23,24 | 208:5,8 209:9 |\n| 162:10,23 | 34: 16,22,25 35: 14 | 121:1,4,15 122:1,7 | spring's
102:22 |\n| speak
13 :6 54: 11 | 35:20 36:2,24 | 122:13,20,21 | 121: 19 124:21 |\n| 54:15 70:10 | 37:21 38: 1,18 | 123:8,13 124:11 | 125: 14,22 126:25 |\n| 126: 16 139: 18 | 40:9,18,22 41:4,17 | 125:7 126:21 | 128:23 129: 17 |\n| 140:5 151:5,7 | 42:2,5,21 43:25 | 127:7,8,9, 17 | 190:23 |\n| 155:5 | 44: 15, 17,21,25 | 128:12,19,20 | square
2:6,7, 16,17 |\n| speaker
58:20 | 45:7, 17,21,25 46:6 | 129: 14 130: 11, 15 | 3:11 |\n| 59:22 | 46: 13 47: 10,21 | 131:3,9 132:18,21 | squarely
65:20 |\n| speaking
11 :23 | 49:5, 19 50:24 | 132:22,23 133 :7 | srosen
2:24 |\n| 12:4 15: 13 158:22 | 51:24 52: 14 54 :20 | 133:16 134:19 | 211:1212:1
ss |\n| speaks
170:3 | 58:6,21,22,23 | 135:2,9 136:1,17 | ssarnoff 2: 19 |\n| specific
26: 18 27: 1 | 59:21 65:21 67:25 | 137:7,10 140:25 | stamp
167:23 |\n| 107:23 126:24 | 68: 10, 11, 16,23 | 141:24 148:6,12 | stand
11:8 45:3 |\n| 175:20 195: 19 | 69:2,8,9,13,14,18 | 148:15,18 150:2,6 | 132:3 |\n| specifically
113:9 | 70:16 71:4,12 | 150:20 151: 11,25 | stands
132: 1,9, 11 |\n| 129: 19 188: 1 | 72: 1,8 73 :22,24 | 152:19,24 153:1 | 132:15 |\n| specify
140:8 | 74:21,24 77: 18,21 | 153:10 156:1,6,18 | start
12:3,20 23 :25 |\n| speculate
97: 11 | 77:25 78:12,19 | 157:3,22 158: 16 | 29:10,23 30:10,17 |\n| 127:21 | 79:7, 15, 18 80:5, 11 | 158: 17,20 159: 13 | 30:19 31:1,14,17 |\n| spell
17:5 38: 12 | 80: 12, 13, 18,22 | 160:21,24 163:21 | 32: 10 71:4 78:6 |\n| spelled
39:9 | 81:3,6 86:22 90:4 | 164:10,14 165:16 | 118:22 173: 18 |\n| spend
17:6 173:18 | 90:9, 18 91: 16, 17 | 165:22 166:4,5,14 | 174:20 |\n| spoke
135: 18,21 | 91:18,24 92:9,16 | 168:9 169:3,3, 15 | started
10:22 |\n| spoken
115:3,6 | 93:6 95:4,24 97:2 | 169: 16,23,25 | 24:11,17 28:8 |\n| 139: 13 140: 14 | 97:20 98:3,23 | 170: 14,20 171: 14 | 30:13 31:18,19,19 |\n| 180: 12 191: 16 | 99:11100:16 | 172:10 173:1,4 | 31:20 32:13 33:18 |\n| 209:20 | 102:7,23,25 103:4 | 174:16 175:3,13 | 34:4 36:2,24 |\n| spring
2:21 4:20 | 103 :7,9 104:6, 10 | 176:23 177:7,14 | 37:22 38: 1 40:9 |\n| 5:3,11 7: 10 8:3 | 104: 13,14,17,22 | 177: 18 178: 1,3 | 40:18,22 41:3,17 |\n| 15:3,20 16:9,22 | 104:24 105:8 | 180:5 184: 10 | 42:5,20 69:8,9, 14 |\n| 17:2,4,10 18:9, 11 | 107: 15,18 108:3 | 185:3 186:9,14 | 71: 12,25 72:7 |\n| | | | |\n\n[ **started** - **talking]**\n\n| 73:21,24 77:21,24 | stuart
2: 15 8: 13 | supplement | t |\n|-------------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------|\n| 78:23 81:3 87:6 | stuff
141:10,18 | 207:12 209:14 | t
4:9 147: 15,16 |\n| 117: 18,24 | 194:23 195:5 | supplies
208: 12 | 216:3,3 |\n| starting
31 :23 | 202:3 | support
82:3 | tail
74:9 |\n| 32:3 42:3 85:5 | subject
88: 12 | 89:16,21,25 91:19 | take
23 :9 33 :7 |\n| state
3:11 7:21 | 113 :20 133: 17,20 | 92:2 93: 18,23 | 35:2,8 55:9 58:21 |\n| 9:25 10:5, 12 57:8 | 134:5 146: 11 | 94:4, 15 118:4,6 | 66: 16,19 69: 10 |\n| 167: 16 168:22 | 163:20 176:15 | 119:8,13 127:9 | 84: 19 91: 18 96: 1 |\n| 211: 1 212: 1,6 | submitted
43: 19 | 128: 16 147:24 | 96:4 98: 16 99:5,6 |\n| 214:9,12 | subordinated | 182:22 | 100: 11,16 102:2 |\n| stated
68: 18 98: 15 | 130:21 | supported
118:8 | 108: 10,10 109:6 |\n| statement
157:22 | subpoenaed | supporting
114:3 | 111: 15,20 112:4 |\n| 191:22 192:5 | 129: 16 | suppose
50:20 | 125:25 139:2 |\n| states
1:13:4,4 | subscribe
211: 11 | supposed
92:8 | 141:17 143:5 |\n| 7:12 25:10,12,15 | substance
211:8 | 118:21 124:6 | 148:6,11,16 158:7 |\n| 25: 19,24 27:21 | substantiating | 130:18 | 159: 11 160: 1,4,10 |\n| 28:5 91: 13 115: 19 | 186: 12 | supreme
57:8 | 160: 13,18 161:2 |\n| 117:13 125:23 | succeeded
175:4 | sure
12:23 21:23 | 161: 13,19,22,23 |\n| stay
27: 12 39:21 | success
206:5 | 22: 15 24: 10 26:5 | 162:4,17,22 |\n| 51:3 66:7 87:3 | successful
174: 15 | 42:24 54:9 62: 15 | 173:22,25 180:9 |\n| 102:1207:2 | 175:8,17,22 176:3 | 63: 18 90:21,23 | 181:23,23 186:17 |\n| stayed
73 :3, 7 | 176:5 | 97:21 99:5 102: 18 | 195:12 197:11 |\n| staying
27: 12 | successfully | 103:15 104:1,1 | 207:23 |\n| stays
206:9 | 120:25 | 106: 12 112:2 | taken
4: 13 7: 10 |\n| stenotypy
212: 14 | sued
58:9 | 120:2,5 131: 15 | 66:24 98:25 |\n| stick
40:3 203:21 | sufficient
158: 10 | 140: 10 142:4 | 112: 15 126:6 |\n| stipulation
214:20 | suggest
31 :3 112:7 | 143:16 167:6 | 127:2 174:5 |\n| stipulations
12:21 | 163:6 | 172:4,15 182:2 | 186: 14 212: 10 |\n| 12:25 | suggesting
32:7 | 188:2,23 192: 1 | takes
112:7 |\n| stop
12:4 66:3 | 33:22 60:24 61:3 | 203:19 205:10,10 | talent
154:9 |\n| store
202:9, 10 | 155: 12 164:24 | survivor
48: 12 | talk
69:21 70: 1,2,2 |\n| stores
197:6 | 197: 17 | suzanne
1:25 7: 19 | 80:8 99:7 131:22 |\n| strategic
14: 18,19 | suit
194:9 197:21 | 112:6 212:5 213:4 | 140:1151:20 |\n| street
2: 12,22 3:6 | 197:25 | swear
8:18 | 176:21 |\n| 7:3 184:20 185:3 | sunny
3:17 8:23 | swore
62:7 65:17 | talked
69:24 70:8 |\n| 190:3 | 10:6 40: 15 52:8 | 91:12 | 70:9 126: 18 |\n| strictly
38:7 | super
12:1,9 13:21 | sworn
9:1,11,21 | 176:18 195:9 |\n| strongly
129:8 | 43:13 | 57:2160:1561:14 | talking
22:18,21 |\n| 156:22 | supervision | 212:9 | 32:24 65:23 71: 19 |\n| structure
37:9 | 212: 15 | system
10: 12 | 71:20 72:5,7 77:1 |\n| 117: 16 | | | 84:15,25 85:12 |\n\n95\n\nರಿಚ\n\n[talking - time]\n\n| 91:1,3,792:5 | 86:4,6 131:14 | 185:10 188:14 | 107:1
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tasks | 30:23 40:5 48:13 | 95:14 105:14 | 56:22 57:1,13,14 |\n| 168:17
taxes | 50:11 89:12 97:13 | 108:25 141:12 | 65:7,17 84:3,18 |\n| 172:23 | 104:20 120:16 | 182:18 | 127:15 168:2 |\n| team 157:23 | 161:8 181:10 | things 11:20 47:8 | 170:17 184:5 |\n| 174:19 | 183:20 185:2 | 66:17 85:16 89:25 | tight
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tim |\n| 170:20 | testify 44:24 48:24 | 99:13 107:22,23 | time 11:23 17:6,8 |\n| telephone 16:9,22 | 80:11 94:19 95:15 | 127:15,20 136:20 | 24:4,6,23 25:2,5 |\n| 29:5 31:18
tell | 191:24 | 182:1 194:9 195:1 | 25:13,16,18,25 |\n| 35:6 43:16 46:4,8 | testifying 48:7 | 198:25 199:19,21 | 27:20 28:4 34:11 |\n| 47:2 58:2,15 | 61:23 64:5 75:18 | 200:4 | 34:22,25 35:4 |\n| 59:25 73:13 74:6 | 90:8 159:13 | think 13:18,20 | 37:22 38:18 40:17 |\n| 81:18,21,23 83:21 | testimony 4:12 | 24:9 34:8 41:21 | 40:24 41:3,9,17 |\n| 86:22 93:10 94:3 | 13:19 15:8 26:12 | 50:11 58:25 62:14 | 42:5 44:8 49:18 |\n| 97:10 99:15 109:3 | 29:19 36:5,12 | 66:10,16 86:3 | 54:8 62:13,15,17 |\n| 109:25 110:5 | 37:23 48:2,8,15,16 | 93:8 94:12 100:21 | 62:18 63:23 64:9 |\n| 113:25 117:9 | 51:2,2 60:15 | 117:4119:15 | 66:23 67:2,15 |\n| 125:13 128:18 | 61:14 63:3 64:7 | 129:6 140:15,18 | 69:4,18 80:24 |\n| 134:12 138:2 | 75:25 76:3 94:12 | 150:11 156:11 | 83:6 84:19 94:24 |\n| 144:2 159:25 | 94:15.19 96:20 | 157:24 160:14 | 96:4,12,17,20 97:6 |\n| 160:2 175:21 | 106:14 132:24 | 166:19 167:1,24 | 98:10,14,18 |\n| 184:1,1,2 198:17 | 159:15,19 161:5,7 | 181:25 182:10 | 103.18 104.8 |\n| 199: 1 | 188:4 209:7 | 183:10,23 190:16 | 106:14,18 112:14 |\n| telling 19:14 | 212:16 | 194:25 200:1 | 112:18 123:8 |\n| 194:24 | thank 8:17 10:13 | 201:13 203:4 | 124:13 126:5,9 |\n| 17:8,9 22:4
ten | 10:14 11:18 12:8 | 205:24 | 127:24 134:23 |\n| 23:9 33:8 66:19 | 12:18 16:7 40:2.4 | thinking 75:13 | 136:4 138:4,4,8,12 |\n| 117:3 163:17 | 55:767:17 71:8 | thirty 21:11,14,16 | 139:4 140:8,17 |\n| 167:24 185:16,18 | 71:23 78:8 84:21 | 21:20 22:4,12 | 143:15 144:14 |\n| 160:21
tendered | 84:23 88:6 111:23 | 23:2,6,9 33:1,7 | 145:16 148:22 |\n| tendering 191:5 | 113:19 126:19 | 132:8 205:19 | 156:3 162:9,23,25 |\n| 81:8,14
term | 129:11 156:15 | thought
128:3 | 163:3,13 166:5 |\n| 84:13 85:19,22,24 | 167:7 173:20 | 171.4 | 167:24 168:16 |\n| | | | |\n\n[time - turn]\n\n| 169:15,23,24 | 35:18,19 43:8
told | 11:13
trans ated | 75:10,11 77:13 |\n|-------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|---------------------|\n| 173:17,18 174:4,8 | 60:1761:12 63:8 | 11:14 12:14 65:6 | 78:3,10 79:13,13 |\n| 176:16,18 195:2 | 63:9,10 65:23 | 83:6 89:6 | 79:15 80:11,16,18 |\n| 203:10 205:23 | 79:24 87:5,7 89:3 | translation 31:16 | 80:20 81:2,5,8,14 |\n| 209:3 212:11 | 91:12 110:24 | 89:4.24 94:5 | 85:22:23 89:11 |\n| 214:10,18,24 | 133:19,22 135:15 | translator
88:24 | 91:12 97:14 108:6 |\n| 215:7 | 137:22,24,24 | 92:23 93:2.10.19 | 108:22 169:22 |\n| times 2:6,7,16,17 | 138:20 139:2 | 95:10,11 131:5 | 175:24 183:4 |\n| 26:17 66:1 82:15 | 145:7 148:10 | 200:15 | 193:17 211:9,13 |\n| 95:3 105:17,22 | 162:21 176:11,13 | transport 111:13 | 212:15 |\n| 138:21 139:20,22 | 179:14 180:6,9,11 | transportation | 160:16
trust |\n| 139:24 140:1,18 | 199:18 | 99:10 107:13,22 | 3:4 8:16
trustee |\n| 151:3 159:14 | tongue
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top | travel 25:19 26:14 | truth 50:5 80:23 |\n| timing
182:4 | 187:22 | 26:17 27:4 40:12 | truthful 13:19 |\n| timothy
18:1 | topic 44:20 87:14 | 111:7 | 31:21 59:25 61:22 |\n| title 42:21 89:17 | 94:20 174:14 | traveled 23:23 | 62:1,3,9 63:3 64:2 |\n| 93:19 95:1,2 | topics 15:6,10 20:5 | 24:7 27:16,17 | 64:6 |\n| titles 44:15 45:2 | 20:9 26:2 37:7,8 | 109:7 | truthfully 13:16 |\n| 49:19 65:24 95:3 | 38:6 41:25 65:19 | travels 108:13,23 | try 11:7 12:12 |\n| 98:22 137:10 | 160:23,23 | 117:14 | 37:13 71:21 76:18 |\n| 142:5.7 180:16 | total
187:16 | treasurer 42:23,25 | 87:14 98:10,14 |\n| today 11:5 13:19 | 209:10 | 45:25 46:13 47:20 | 129:9 138:14 |\n| 15:2,7,8,12,20,25 | tower 2:6,16 | 49:4 97:20 98:2 | 150:13 169:12 |\n| 16:24 17:2 36:3 | transaction | 103:9 104:12 | trying 26:6,9 32:7 |\n| 49:266:19 92:20 | 197:20 | 110:18 122:13,20 | 50:25 51:1 65:16 |\n| 94:15.20 109:5 | transcribed | 128:2 134:19 | 70:7 92:7 93:5.8 |\n| 115:22 130:22 | 212:14 | 142:6,12 159:12 | 95:13 111:9 114:7 |\n| 131:21 136:19 | transcript 4:12,16 | 164:6 165:11,15 | 116:3,7 128:11 |\n| 140:13 150:2 | 13:4,9 20:8 21:11 | 166:4 180:5 195:6 | 135:14 136:13,13 |\n| 158:9 159:13 | 21:25 22:21 31:2 | trial 4:16 13:1 | 143:10 163:6,9 |\n| 162:13 163:1 | 36:22 37:18 39:17 | 96:20 | 172:15 180:3.14 |\n| 176:16 182:9 | 48:1550:16 51:8 | tried 92:23 165:9 | 180:16 184:22 |\n| 209:4 | 76:20 85:3 93:4 | 197:25
tries | 196:23 197:19 |\n| today's 16:10 | 210:3 212:16,18 | trip
194:9 195:12 | 200:23 |\n| 17:11,16,20 18:7 | 214:6.8.10.13.13 | 196.3 | tuesday
1:18 7:2 |\n| 18:19 116:12 | 214:21 215:2,2 | true 51:3,11,23 | 212:10 |\n| 133:17,21 134:5 | translate 40:19 | 52:15 54:20 62:6 | turn 29:3 73:10 |\n| 209:7,20 | 59:16 82:22 89:6 | 62:17,19 63:13 | 87:23 |\n| | 89:15 92:10,19 | 67:24 69:1,7 75:4 | |\n| | | | |\n\n[turning - visited]\n\n| 118:19
turning | 40:13 49:1 50:1 | understood 13:10 | 204:3.7
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V |\n| 153:15 | 86:21,23 89:15,20 | 182:7 195:23 | vague
165:19 |\n| two 4:14 19:18 | 90:22 92:1 93:8 | 201:13 | value
127:6 |\n| 20:20 28:16 30:2 | 94:25 95:2.2.5.13 | undocumented | 128:5
values |\n| 47:17 67:12,12 | 98:25 106:13 | 186:5 | various
26:17 |\n| 74:10 85:9 97:7 | 110:13 123:25 | 144:15
unfamiliar | vehicle
11:7.10 |\n| 136:20 149:3 | 124:20 129:6 | unfortunately | vehicles
109:19 |\n| 152:1,3,4,6 182:1 | 130:4 131:6 | 170:6 | 181:12,20 182:8 |\n| 182:16 203:21 | 132:25 136:14,16 | unified
10:11 | 182:25 183:1 |\n| 108:20
type | 136:19.25 143:10 | unit
7.8 | vendor
99:22 |\n| 99:19 111:17
types | 146:2,9 153:21 | united 1:1 3:4,4 | 100:6 101:1.3 |\n| typically
119:7 | 156:17 158:1 | 7:12 25:10,12,15 | vendors
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U | 179:11,13 180:14 | 28:5 115:19 | verify 99:16,17 |\n| | 180:16 182:1,14 | 117:13 125:23 | |\n| 38:24 39:9,9,12
86:14 112:24 | 186:16 188:19,23 | units 209:10 | 100:13,19,25 |\n| | 189:13,13 190:8 | unnecessarily | 101:7,14,18,20 |\n| 116:22 147:15
171:25 | 192:19,24 195:3,8 | 196:24 | 102:3.8.9 197:8,8 |\n| | 196:23 197:19 | unprofessional | 198:9 199:8,14 |\n| 8:16 23:23
u.s. | 200:24 201:18 | 52:11 | 200:10 |\n| 24:8 27:17 114:8 | 202:4 207:19,22 | unsecured
8:6 | verifying 101:1 |\n| 125:8 126:22 | understanding | unwilling
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19:13 | video 7:8 16:6 |\n| uh 54:2 137:19 | 78:15 79:3,20,22 | 138:8
urgency | videoconference |\n| 152:16 | 92:4 113:22,25 | usability
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14:18,20 |\n| 26:24 27:13,18 | | 204:10 | visited 72:22 |\n| 30:1 32:8 40:12 | | | |\n\nರಿಚ\n\n[void - witness]\n\n| void
166:7 168:17 | 119:22 121:3,23 | 190:11 197:2 | went 30:4 144:19 |\n|-----------------------------------|-------------------|--------------------|----------------------|\n| 169:4,19 170:1 | 121:25 122:6.21 | 201:2 209:2.8 | 162:13 |\n| 171:15 172:23 | 136:18 139:13,18 | 211:4 212:8 214:1 | whatnot 158:23 |\n| 173:2,13 | 140:14,21 149:21 | 214:5 216:2 | whatsoever 38:5 |\n| W | 151:7,14 172:19 | want 21:7 24:10 | whereabouts |\n| 38:14 39:9,13,13
W | 176:23 177:6,16 | 27:1 32:6 39:23 | 26:17 42:12 |\n| 39:14.14 | 177:19 178:8,15 | 55:21 60:18 62:14 | whistle 117:18 |\n| wait 12:2.4 19:9 | 178:17 186:1 | 66:2,2,7 71:17 | wife
101:13 103:6 |\n| 43:7 78:7 | 187:7,10 189:1,16 | 84:4 86:20 88:1 | 103:13 104:5.9.14 |\n| | 189:20 191:6,9,16 | 90:21,23 106:12 | 201:24 202:1,24 |\n| waiting 78:8 | 192:13 193:20 | 108:24 125:3 | 204:9,20 205:15 |\n| waive
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197:20 | 206:1,14 214:4 | 182:2,20 208:25 | 53:16 |\n| 1:8 2:5 7:11
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wanted | william
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172:2.7 |\n| 45:18,22 52:1,16 | wang 1:17 4:13,23 | 197:21 198:1 | 172:19 |\n| 52:22 53:5,7,9,13 | 7:99:18 10:19 | 200:5,24 | willing 82:4 |\n| 53:21 54:22 58:10 | 13:12 20:2,18 | 2:13
washington | 206:4
win |\n| 58:16 66:7 68:2.6 | 27:9 28:21 32:21 | 3:7 | wish
150-9 |\n| 68:11 70:16 72:3 | 37:1738:11 42:8 | way 19:24 27:1 | withdraw
43:21 |\n| 72:9,17 77:4 81:4 | 42:20 43:10 45:6 | 54:12 71:22 80:7 | withdrawn
17:18 |\n| 81:9,15,16,21 82:1 | 49:12 52:13 53:19 | 120:14 133:13 | 65:1 72:19 147:20 |\n| 82:10,19,23 83:7 | 55:14 56:17 67:4 | 138:14 143:9 | 177:21 |\n| 84:15 85:1,13,19 | 67:19 71:17.25 | 163:4 165:12 | witness 7:9 8:19 |\n| 85:23 86:8 87:19 | 73:13 80:16 83:16 | 200:16 204:14 | 9:16,24 13:3,8 |\n| 88:18 89:5,13 | 86:20 87:5 93:3 | 212:21,22 | 16:12,15 20:11 |\n| 90:16 91:2,14
92:10 94:16 95:7 | 95:13 104:4 | 159:22
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106:24 107:8 | 155:11 156:25 | weeks
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118:6119:10,20 | 186:20 188:17 | | 57:5,17 58:1 |\n\n[witness - york]\n\n| 59:19 65:17 66:8 | 78:20,20 79:21 | written 63:2 188:9 | 44:16 45:12 48:17 |\n|---------------------|----------------------|-----------------------------------|-----------------------|\n| 66:14 67:9,15 | 81:19 86:11.17 | 189.4 191 - 18 | 49:1,10 51:5 |\n| 73:12 74:4 83:14 | 89:24 92:17 | 212:13 | 61:19 64:22 65:8 |\n| 83:20 87:25 88:4 | 147:19 149:24 | wrong 56:6 75:12 | 65:17 80:7 116:19 |\n| 88:9 90:4,13 | 150:11,13 151:21 | 164:22 | 116:21,23 117:1,3 |\n| 92:15 94:19 95:20 | 152:25 157:2,17 | wrongdoing | 136:3 152:1,3,4,6 |\n| 103:24 111:16,24 | 158:3 164:17 | 164:25 | 160:17 161:21,25 |\n| 116:4,15 122:11 | 195:18 202:11 | X | 163:2 171:11 |\n| 122:19 123:5 | 19:22 21:5
worked | | yesterday 145:13 |\n| 124:24 126:24 | 23:23 24:12,20 | 4:1,9 107:9,9
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116:62215:1 | 145:14,16,18,21 |\n| 129:9 131:16 | 25:16,18 26:9 | | 146:5,9 162:8,9,22 |\n| 140:7 143:14,23 | 27:10,14 34:21,25 | y | 163:6,10 |\n| 144:13 147:10 | 45:9 55:3 138:25 | 112:24,24 116:6
y | 112:23
yong |\n| 148:1 154:6 158:5 | 152:18 153:10 | 147:16 | york
1:19,19 2:7,7 |\n| 159:19,21 165:21 | working 19:12 | y'all
44:7 | 2:17,17,22 4:20 |\n| 166:11 167:2,13 | 24:11,14,23,24 | 1:17 4:13,23
yan | 5:4,12 7:1,1,10 |\n| 170:12 186:11 | 25:3,5 29:10,23 | 9:18 56:17 211:4 | 8:3 10:12 14:23 |\n| 188:3 191:23 | 30:10,1731:1,15 | 212:8 214:1,5 | 15:4 17:4 18:9,11 |\n| 201:4 204:1 207:3 | 32:10 33:18 34:3 | 216:2 | 18:15,17 23:24 |\n| 207:9,16 209:8,20 | 34:6.12 36:23 | 11:25 13:2
veah | 24:2,15,18 27:6 |\n| 212:8,13,17 | 37:21 38:1 40:9 | 23:2 26:5 30:15 | 28:9 29:10,23 |\n| 214:13,16 215:2,5 | 40:18,22 41:3,17 | 49:1 54:2 67:14 | 30:4,4,11,18 31:2 |\n| 216:24 | 42:5,20 44:14 | 70:4 75:21 76:16 | 31:14,22,23 32:1,2 |\n| women's
101:6,9 | 45:17,21 69:2,8,9 | 81:12 86:15 93:22 | 32:3,11,13,15 |\n| 101:13 | 69:14 71:12,25 | 101:5,8 102:1 | 33:13,19 34:1,4,7 |\n| word 55:159:13 | 72:8 73:21,24 | 108:2 109:14,24 | 34:13,17,25 35:21 |\n| 90:3 109:6 120:2 | 78:23 81:3,10 | 110:11 111:9 | 36:2,24 37:21 |\n| 120:8 | 83:22 87:6 113:5 | 112:3 116:25 | 38:1,2 40:9,10,11 |\n| words
48:6 49:12 | 150:2 171:19 | 125:16 128:7,21 | 40:14,17,18,23,24 |\n| 49:16 51:11 58:17 | 210:1 | 136:10 141:7 | 41:2,4,7,16,18 |\n| 58:19 60:8 93:3 | works
76:16 | 156:15 162:16 | 42:2,6,21 43:25 |\n| 94:14 107:17 | world 17:14 | 166:21,21 173:20 | 44:21,25 46:1,6,14 |\n| 201:11 212:13 | 116:12 175:22 | 194:21 208:14 | 47:21 49:5,19 |\n| work 18:24 22:7,7 | 158:24
worms | year 18:12 41:11 | 51:24 52:14 54:20 |\n| 23:11,20,25 24:2,3 | 161:19
worry | 47:24 129:14,20 | 57:8 58:7 59:21 |\n| 24:17 27:5,22 | 207:1 | 129:21,22 130:3 | 65:22 68:1 69:8 |\n| 28:5 30:6,13,19 | 152:14
WOW | 130:12 134:16,17 | 69:10,15 71:13,13 |\n| 31:17,19 32:2 | writing 184:13 | yearly 107:12 | 72:1,1,4,8 73:22 |\n| 33:12 45:18,22 | 188:5 189:10 | years 25:14 29:20 | 81:3,6 90:18 |\n| 46:10 58:21,22 | 190:2 | 30:3,20 36:5,6,10 | 91:16,17,19,24 |\n| 59:20 60:25 71:4 | | 36:11,14 41:13 | 92:9,17 93:6 95:4 |\n| | | | |\n\n[york - zoom]\n\n| 97:2 98:3,23 | L |\n|--------------------|--------------------|\n| 99:11 103:10 | 116:6
L |\n| 104:6,10,13,15,22 | 21:14
zero |\n| 104:24 109:11,13 | 7:16 16:22
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