{"id":"court_ctb_2551_1","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":2551,"sub_number":1,"doc_type":"ORDER","filed_date":"2024-02-05","title":"EXHIBIT 1 TRANSCRIPT OF","summary_zh":"庭审笔录摘录（附件 1） —— Ho Wan Kwok 破产案（郭文贵 / Guo Wengui / Miles Guo），CTB 22-50073 ECF #2551-1（2024-02-05立案）。该附件包含了 2023 年 6 月 13 日听证会的节选笔录，内容涉及破产法第 2004 条传票履职动议、上诉期间中止申请以及受托人 Despins 就聘请 AlixPartners 等资产追查专业机构情况的作证质询。","summary_en":"Hearing Transcript Excerpt (Exhibit 1) — In re Ho Wan Kwok (Miles Guo / Guo Wengui), CTB Case No. 22-50073, ECF No. 2551-1 (filed Feb 5, 2024). Exhibit containing excerpted pages of the June 13, 2023 hearing transcript regarding motions to compel Rule 2004 subpoenas, stay pending appeal, and Trustee Despins's testimony regarding retaining asset-tracing professionals such as AlixPartners.","body_en":"## **EXHIBIT 1**\n\n## TRANSCRIPT OF\n\n| #1453 | MOTION FOR ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE WHY DEBTOR, MEI GUO  |\n|-------|-----------------------------------------------------|\n|       | and HK(USA) SHOULD NOT BE HELD IN CONTEMPT OF       |\n|       | COURT FOR FAITURE TO COMPLY MITH ORDER COMBETITING  |\n|       | COMPLIANCE WITH RULE 2004 SUBPOENAS AND             |\n|       | SANCTIONS FOR SUCH CONTEMPT                         |\n| #1649 | MOTION FOR A LIMITED STAY OF ORDER GRANTING IN PART |\n|       | MOTION TO COMPEL COMPLIANCE WITH RULE 2004 SUBPOENA |\n\n- # 227 MOTION TO STAY PENDING APPEAL\n- # STATUS CONFERENCE\n\n2\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2551-1 Filed 02/05/24 Entered 02/05/24 10:27:26 Page 5 of 7\n\n|     | Ho Wan Kwok - June 13, 2023<br>35                            |\n|-----|--------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1   | THE COURT:  How is that relevant to your stay                |\n| 2   | pending appeal? The questions were all about what's the      |\n| 3   | harm.  He told you what his harm is.                         |\n| 4   | You may disagree with his harm.  But that -- how             |\n| 5   | is it relevant to your getting a stay pending appeal?        |\n| రు  | MR. MORIARTY:  If there's other assets that can be           |\n| 7   | used, Your Honor, then there's no harm.  His harm is I don't |\n| ರಿ  | have the ability to pay --                                   |\n| 9   | Well, you --<br>THE COURT:                                   |\n| 10  | MR. MORIARTY: -- which --                                    |\n| 11  | THE COURT:  The other assets that you're talking             |\n| 12  | about, including the Lady May, you've already -- that's on   |\n| 13  | appeal too, isn't it?                                        |\n| 1 4 | MR. MORIARTY:  It is on appeal.                              |\n| 15  | THE COURT:  Yeah.  So then your argument doesn't             |\n| 16  | really make sense, because then you're going to make the     |\n| 17  | same arqument when you come to the Lady May.                 |\n| 18  | MR. MORIARTY:  Well, Your Honor, I don't know that           |\n| 1 9 | I could make the same argument continuously, because at some |\n| 20  | point in time it becomes self-defeating.  But for now, it's  |\n| 21  | not. But I will move on.  Okay.                              |\n| 22  | BY MR. MORIARTY:                                             |\n| 23  | So, Attorney Despins, the professionals that you<br>റ്റു     |\n| 24  | haven't hired yet, those would be, for example, accountants, |\n| 25  | right?                                                       |\n|     |                                                              |\n\n|                                                              | Case 22-50073    Doc 2551-1    Filed 02/05/24    Entered 02/05/24 10:27:26<br>Page 6 of 7 |  |  |  |  |  |\n|--------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--|--|--|--|--|\n|                                                              | Ho Wan Kwok - June 13, 2023<br>36                                                         |  |  |  |  |  |\n| ದ                                                            | Yeah.  AlixPartners is something like that.                                               |  |  |  |  |  |\n| റ്റു                                                         | Okay.  So has any professional that you have inquired                                     |  |  |  |  |  |\n| about to engage for the estate refused an engagement because |                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |\n| there's no cash immediately available to pay them?           |                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |\n| A                                                            | Yes .                                                                                     |  |  |  |  |  |\n| റ                                                            | Who is that?<br>Okay .                                                                    |  |  |  |  |  |\n| A                                                            | AlixPartners.                                                                             |  |  |  |  |  |\n| റ                                                            | Okay.<br>Anybody else?                                                                    |  |  |  |  |  |\n| A                                                            | No. I have not had the discussion with anybody else.                                      |  |  |  |  |  |\n| റ്റ                                                          | So was Alix -- what were you -- well, withdraw that.                                      |  |  |  |  |  |\n| Is AlixPartners the only professional firm that you ve       |                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |\n| spoken to about engagement for asset tracing?                |                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |\n| A                                                            | To date, yes.                                                                             |  |  |  |  |  |\n| இ                                                            | Okay. So no other firm has -- no other firm related to                                    |  |  |  |  |  |\n|                                                              | asset tracing or accounting-type work has refused to perform                              |  |  |  |  |  |\n| services because there's no cash immediately available in    |                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |\n| estate?<br>the                                               |                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |\n| A                                                            | Well, I have not talked to any other firms, so --                                         |  |  |  |  |  |\n| Q                                                            | Okay.  And you testified that information gets stale.                                     |  |  |  |  |  |\n|                                                              | Do you recall that testimony?                                                             |  |  |  |  |  |\n| A                                                            | Correct.                                                                                  |  |  |  |  |  |\n| o                                                            | Okay. But you've only spoken to one firm about taking                                     |  |  |  |  |  |\n|                                                              | on the type of engagement where they would be tracing funds.                              |  |  |  |  |  |\n| ।                                                            | that correct?                                                                             |  |  |  |  |  |\n| A                                                            | Yes .                                                                                     |  |  |  |  |  |\n|                                                              |                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |\n\n| Case 22-50073 | Doc 2551-1 | Filed 02/05/24 | Entered 02/05/24 10:27:26 | Page 7 of 7 |  |  |  |\n|---------------|------------|----------------|---------------------------|-------------|--|--|--|\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |\n|               |            |                |                           |             |  |  |  |","body_zh":"证据 1\n庭审笔录\n\n#1453 要求债务人、MEI GUO（郭美）及 HK(USA) 说明为何不应因未能遵守强迫遵守第 2004 条传票之命令而被认定藐视法庭并就该藐视行为予以制裁的命令之动议\n#1649 针对部分准予强迫遵守第 2004 条传票之动议的命令申请有限暂缓执行的动议\n- # 227 上诉期间暂缓执行的动议\n- # 案件进展状况会议\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2551-1 Filed 02/05/24 Entered 02/05/24 10:27:26 Page 5 of 7\n\nHo Wan Kwok（郭文贵） - 2023年6月13日\n1 法庭：这与你申请上诉期间暂缓执行有什么关系？刚才问的全都是会造成什么损害。他已经告诉你他的损害是什么了。\n2 你可能不同意他说的损害。但是那——这与你获得上诉期间暂缓执行有什么关系？\n3 MORIARTY 律师（莫里亚蒂）：法官阁下，如果有其他资产可以使用，那就没有损害。他所谓的损害是我没有能力支付——\n4 法庭：好吧，你——\n5 MORIARTY 律师：——而这——\n6 法庭：你所说的其他资产，包括 Lady May（梅女士号游艇），你已经——那也在上诉中，不是吗？\n7 MORIARTY 律师：确实在上诉中。\n8 法庭：对啊。所以你的论点根本讲不通，因为等你讨论到 Lady May 时你又会提出相同的论点。\n9 MORIARTY 律师：嗯，法官阁下，我不知道我是否能一直提出同样的论点，因为在某个时间点它会变得自相矛盾。但就目前而言，并不是这样。不过我会继续下一个问题。好的。\n10 MORIARTY 律师发问：\n11 那么，Despins 律师（德斯平斯），那些你尚未聘请的专业人员，比如会是会计师，对吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2551-1 Filed 02/05/24 Entered 02/05/24 10:27:26\n\nHo Wan Kwok - 2023年6月13日\n\n1 对。AlixPartners（艾睿铂）就属于那一类。\n2 好的。那么，是否有任何你曾询盘欲为破产财产受托聘用的专业人员，因为没有立即可用的现金向其支付报酬而拒绝接受聘用？\n3 答：有。\n4 问：那是谁？\n5 好的。\n6 答：AlixPartners。\n7 问：好的。还有其他人吗？\n8 答：没有。我没有和其他任何人讨论过。\n9 问：那么 Alix——你当时——好吧，撤回该问题。AlixPartners 是你唯一就资产追踪聘用事宜进行过沟通的专业机构吗？\n10 答：迄今为止，是的。\n11 问：好的。所以没有其他机构——没有其他与资产追踪或会计类工作相关的机构，因为破产财产中没有立即可用的现金而拒绝提供服务？\n12 答：嗯，我没有和其他任何机构谈过，所以——\n13 问：好的。而且你曾作证说信息会过时。你记得那段证词吗？\n14 答：没错。\n15 问：好的。但你只与一家机构讨论过承接此类涉及资金追踪的业务。对吗？\n16 答：是的。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 2551-1 Filed 02/05/24 Entered 02/05/24 10:27:26 Page 7 of 7","key_entities":["Kwok","Ho Wan Kwok","Guo","Despins"],"ecf_references":[],"word_count":1108,"status":"published","published_at":"2024-02-05 00:00:00","created_at":"2024-02-05","updated_at":"2026-08-23 12:57:24"}