{"id":"court_ctb_398_1","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":398,"sub_number":1,"doc_type":"EXHIBIT","filed_date":"2022-04-27","title":"EXHIBIT PAX 15 Transcript of the April 12, 2022 Deposition of Yvette Wang","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"# **EXHIBIT PAX 15**\n\nTranscript of the April 12, 2022 Deposition of Yvette Wang\n\n| | | 22-50073 | |\n|--------|----------------------------|----------|--|\n| IN RE: | Ho Wan Kwok | | |\n| | | | |\n| PAX | | 15 | |\n| | | | |\n| | 4/27/2022 Admitted in Full | | |\n| | P.E. | | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n\n1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 In re: UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION )Case No. ) 22-50073- (JAM) Ho Wan Kwok, Debtor. REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF (30(b) (6) CORPORATE REPRESENTATIVE YAN PING WANG Tuesday, April 12, 2022 New York, New York Reported by: B. Suzanne Hull, CSR No. 13495 Page 1\n\n| 1
2 | APPEARANCES | 1 | INDEX | |\n|----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|--------------------------------------------------|--------|\n| 3
4 | | 2 | | |\n| | For the Debtor
Brown Rudnick
5 HoWanKwok:
By MR. BENNETT S. SILVERBERG
MR. KENNETH AULET | 4 | 3 EXAMINATION BY | PAGE |\n| 6 | Attorneys at Law | | 5 MR.HARBACH | 10 |\n| 7 | Times Sqill!Ie Tower
7 Times Square | 6 | | |\n| 8 | New York, New York 10036
(212) 209-4924 | 7 | | |\n| 9 | (212) 209-4950
bsilverberg@brownrudnick.com | 8 | | |\n| | kaulet@brownrudnick.com | 9 | EXHIBITS | |\n| 10 | 11 For Creditor Pacific O'Melveny & Myers | 10 | | |\n| | Alliance Asia
By MR. DAVID V. HARBACH II
12 Opporhmity Fund, Attorney at Law | | 11 EXHIBIT
DESCRIPTION | PAGE |\n| | L.P
1625 Eye Street NW | | Transcript of testimony of
12 Exhibit 1 - | 19 |\n| 13 | Washington, DC 20006
(202) 383-5127 | 13 | Yan Ping Wang, taken | |\n| 14 | dharbach@omrn.com
- and- | 14 | October 11, 2018, forty-two | |\n| 15 | By MR. STUART M. SARNOFF | 15 | pages | |\n| 16 | MS.
AISLING MURRAY
Attorneys at Law | 16 | Exhibit 2 -
Trial transcript, dated | 28 |\n| 17 | Times Square Tower
7 Times Square | 17 | April 26, 2019, one hundred | |\n| | New York, New York 10036
(212) 326-2293 | 18 | twenty-five pages | |\n| 18 | (212) 728-5831 | | 19 Exhibit 3 -
Director and officer register, | 43 |\n| 19 | ssamoff@omm.com
amurray@ornrn.com | 20 | Golden Spring (New York) | |\n| 20 | 21 For Creditor
Cohn Birnbaum Shea | 21 | Limited, Delaware Coiporation, | |\n| | Golden Spring
By MR. SCOTT D. ROSEN | 22 | three pages | |\n| | 22 (New York) Limited: Attorney at Law
100 Pearl Street | | Affidavit of Yan Ping Wang,
23 Exhibit 4 - | 55 |\n| 23 | Hartford, Connecticut 06103
(860) 493-2220 | 24 | dated November 14, 2013, three | |\n| 24 | srosen@cbshealaw.com | 25 | pages | |\n| 25 | Page 2 | | | Page 4 |\n| | | | | |\n| | | | | |\n| 1
2 | APPEARANCES (Continued) | 1 | EXHIBITS (Continued) | |\n| 3 | | | 2 EXHIBIT
DESCRIPTION | PAGE |\n| | United States Department of
4 For United States | | 3 Exhibit 5 -
Exhibit B, Golden Spring | 166 |\n| 5 | Trustee:
Justice
By MS. HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN | 4 | (New York)'s Delaware | |\n| | Attorney at Law | 5 | certificate of incoiporation | |\n| 6 | 1100 L Street NW | 6 | and certificate of revival, | |\n| 7 | Room 12210
Washington, DC 20005 | 7 | dated March 10, 2015, five | |\n| | (202) 514-2000 | 8 | pages | |\n| 8
9 | holley.l.claiborn@usdoj.gov | | 9 Exhibit 6 -
Pacific Alliance Asia | 209 |\n| | 10 For the Committee on Pullman & Comley | 10 | Opportunity Fund L.P. 's notice | |\n| | Secured Creditors: By MR. JONATHAN KAPLAN | 11 | of deposition of Golden Spring | |\n| 11 | Attorney at Law
90 State House Square | 12 | (New York) Limited pursuant to | |\n| 12 | Hartford, Connecticut 06103 | 13 | Rule 30(b )(6) of the Federal | |\n| | (860) 424-4379 | 14 | Rules of Civil Procedure, | |\n| 13
14 | jkaplan@pullcom.com | 15 | dated March 29, 2022, seven | |\n| 15 | | 16 | pages | |\n| | 16 The Videographer:
Jeffrey Nichols | 17 | | |\n| | 17 The Interpreter:
Sunny Johnston (Mandarin)
Una Wilkinson (Mandarin)
18 The Check | 18 | | |\n| | Interpreter: | 19 | | |\n| 19 | Also Present:
Makenzie Russo | 20 | | |\n| 20 | | 21 | | |\n| 21 | | 22 | | |\n| 22
23 | | 23 | | |\n| 24 | | 24 | | |\n| 25 | Page 3 | 25 | | Page 5 |\n\n2 (Pages 2 - 5)\n\n| | 1 QUESTIONS INSTRUCTED NOT TO
2 ANSWER: | 1
2 | MR. ROSEN: Good morning.
09:16:24
Scott Rosen, Cohn Birnbaum & Shea,
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Line 18 | | 3 representing Golden Spring (New York).
09: 16:28 |\n| 4 | Page 3 7
Line 25 | 4 | MR. KAPLAN: Jonathan Kaplan,
09: 16:36 |\n| 5 | Page 41
Line 16 | | 5 Pullman & Comley, representing the Committee of
09:16:36 |\n| 6 | Page 65
Line 9 | | 6 Unsecured Creditors.
09:16:40 |\n| 7 | Page 126 Line 20 | 7 | MR. AULET: Kenneth Aulet, of Brown Rudnick, 09:16:40 |\n| 8 | Page 128 Line 18 | | 8 representing the debtor, Ho Wan Kwok.
09: 16:43 |\n| 9 | Page 13 0 Line 2 | 9 | MR. SIL VER.BERG: Bennett Silverberg,
09:16:46 |\n| 10 | Page 150 Line 5 | | 10 Brown Rudnick, representing the debtor.
09: 16:49 |\n| 11 | Page 157 Line 17 | 11 | MS. RUSSO: Makenzie Russo, with
09:16:52 |\n| 12 | | | 12 O'Melveny & Myers, representing Pacific Alliance.
09: 16:56 |\n| 13 | | 13 | MR. SARNOFF: Stuart Sarnoff,
09:16:57 |\n| 14 | | | 14 Pacific Alliance.
09:17:02 |\n| 15 | | 15 | MS. CLAIBORN: And I am Holley Claiborn, for 09:17:02 |\n| 16 | | | 16 the U.S. Trustee.
09:17:04 |\n| 17 | | 17 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Thank you.
09: 17:05 |\n| 18 | | 18 | Will the court reporter please swear in both 09: 17:06 |\n| 19 | | | 19 interpreters and then the witness.
09:17:09 |\n| 20 | | 20 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand,
09: 17:14 |\n| 21 | | | 21 please.
09:17:15 |\n| 22 | | 22 | |\n| 23 | | 23 | SUNNY JOHNSTON, |\n| 24 | | | 24 having been called as an interpreter to interpret |\n| 25 | | | 25 English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was |\n| | Page 6 | | Page 8 |\n| | | | |\n| I | New York, New York | | I duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best |\n| 2 | Tuesday, April 12, 2022; 9:15 a.m. | | 2 of her abilities and interpreted as follows: |\n| 3
4 | 162 East 64th Street | 3
4 | 09:17:20
THE INTERPRETER: Yes, I do.
09:17:20 |\n| 5 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Good morning. | 5 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand,
09: 17:25 |\n| 6 | We are going on the record at 9: 15 a.m. on
09:15:21 | | 6 please, Check Interpreter.
09:17:27 |\n| | 7 April 12th, 2022.
09:15:25 | 7 | |\n| 8 | This is media unit one of the video-recorded 09: 15:27 | 8 | UNA WILKINSON, |\n| | 9 deposition of Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for
09: 15:31 | | 9 having been called as an interpreter to interpret |\n| | 10 Golden Spring (New York), taken by
09:15:37 | | 10 English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was |\n| | II Creditor Pacific Alliance In Re: Ho Wan Kwok, filed
09:15:39 | | 11 duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best |\n| | 12 in the United States Bankruptcy Court, District of
09: 15:42 | | 12 of her abilities and interpreted as follows: |\n| | 13 Connecticut, Bridgeport Division. The case number is 09:15:47 | 13 | 09:17:42 |\n| | 14 22-50073 (JAM).
09:15:49 | 14 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes, I do.
09:17:42 |\n| 15 | This deposition is being held virtually via 09: 15 :50 | 15 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand please, |\n| | 16 Zoom.
09: 15:57 | | 16 Witness. |\n| 17 | My name is Jeff Nichols, from the firm
09: 15:57 | 17 | |\n| | 18 Veritext Legal Solutions, and I am the videographer.
09:15:59 | 18 | YAN PING WANG, |\n| | 19 The court reporter is Suzanne Hull, from the firm
09: 16:02 | | 19 called as a 30(b)(6) Corporate Representative by |\n| | 20 Veritext Legal Solutions.
09:16:06 | | 20 counsel for Creditor Pacific Alliance Asia |\n| 21 | Counsel will now please state their
09:16:07 | | 21 Opportunity Fund, L.P., being first duly sworn, |\n| | 22 appearances and affiliations for the record.
09:16:10 | | 22 testified as follows: |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH: Good morning.
09:16:14 | 23 | 09: 17:59 |\n| 24 | I'm David Harbach, with O'Melveny & Myers,
09:16:15 | 24 | THE WITNESS: Yes.
09:17:59 |\n| | 25 and I represent Pacific Alliance.
09:16:19 | 25 | THE REPORTER: Okay. State credentials,
09:18:02 |\n| | Page 7 | | Page 9 |\n\n3 (Pages 6 - 9)\n\n| 1 please.
09: 18:06 | Q. Okay. Super.
09:21: 13 |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
THE INTERPRETER: Yes.
09:18:08 | So if you would, please wait for me to
2
09:21: 18 |\n| 3
Good morning, everyone.
09: 18:09 | 3 fmish my question before you start answering, and
09:21:21 |\n| 4
Court certified Mandarin interpreter,
09: 18: 10 | 4 I'll do my best to wait for you to stop speaking
09:21:24 |\n| 5 California State Certified Interpreter
09: 18: 13 | 5 before I ask my next question.
09:21:28 |\n| 6 Sunny Johnston. Certification number is 301314.
09:18:14 | Okay?
09:21:30
6 |\n| 7
THE REPORTER: Check Interpreter,
09:18:18 | 7
A. Yes, sir.
09:21:31 |\n| 8 credentials, please.
09:18:22 | 8
Thank you.
09:21:33 |\n| 9
THE CHECK INTERPRETER: I am the check
09:18:25 | 9
Q. Okay. Super.
09:21:33 |\n| 10 interpreter for Mandarin and English, and
09: 18:26 | And as I said a moment ago, if there is
09:21:35
10 |\n| 11 a court-certified interpreter for the Unified Court
09: 18:29 | 11 a question that you do not understand, please just
09:21:40 |\n| 12 System in New York state.
09: 18:33 | 12 let me know, and I'm happy to try and rephrase it.
09:21:43 |\n| THE REPORTER: Thank you.
09:18:36
13 | 13 And if there is a question that you would prefer be
09:21:48 |\n| 14
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Thank you.
09:18:37 | 14 translated in order to answer it, that is no problem. 09:21:52 |\n| You may proceed, Counsel.
09:18:37
15 | 15 That is what Ms. Johnston is here for.
09:21:56 |\n| 09:18:37
16 | 16
Okay?
09:21:59 |\n| EXAMINATION
09: 18:40
17 | 17
A. Yes, sir.
09:22:00 |\n| 18 BY MR. HARBACH:
09: 18:40 | 18
Thank you.
09:22:02 |\n| 19
Q. Good morning, Ms. Wang.
09:18:41 | Q. Okay. Are you on any medication or --
19
09:22:02 |\n| 20
My name is David Harbach, as you just heard. 09:18:44 | 20
MR. ROSEN: Counsel, before we start,
09:22: 11 |\n| And a couple housekeeping matters before we
09: 18:50
21 | 21 stipulations as to objections and signing.
09:22: 13 |\n| 22 get started.
09: 18:53 | 22
What is your preference?
09:22: 18 |\n| Are you able to hear -- are you able to hear 09: 18:54
23 | 23
MR. HARBACH: I'm not sure I understand,
09:22:20 |\n| 24 me okay?
09:18:55 | 24 Scott.
09:22:22 |\n| A. Yes.
09: 19:09
25 | 25
MR. ROSEN: The usual stipulations? All
09:22:24 |\n| Page 10 | Page 12 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I
I can hear you clearly.
09: 19: 10 | I objections reserved to trial except for form?
09:22:27 |\n| 2
Q. I'm aware that you had given depositions in 09: 19: 12 | 2
MR. HARBACH: Yeah. That's okay with me.
09:22:32 |\n| 3 the past in English.
09:19: 15 | 3
MR. ROSEN: Okay. The witness is not going 09:22:36 |\n| 4
Would you be comfortable proceeding in
09:19:18 | 4 to waive tbe signing and reading of the transcript.
09:22:38 |\n| 5 English today?
09: 19:21 | 5
MR. HARBACH: I didn't hear you, Scott.
09:22:42 |\n| 6
A. Okay. My mother tongue is not English, but 09: 19:37 | 6
Could you please speak up?
09:22:44 |\n| 7 I can try to go through the deposition in English;
09: 19:54 | 7
MR. ROSEN: Yes.
09:22:46 |\n| 8 however, I do need the interpreter stand by in case
09: 19:57 | 8
The witness will not waive the signing and
09:22:46 |\n| 9 I don't understand anything.
09:20:00 | 9 reading of the transcript.
09:22:49 |\n| 10
Q. That -- that sounds perfect, and that is
09:20:02 | 10
MR. HARBACH: Okay. Understood.
09:22:50 |\n| 11 just fine with us; so we can proceed in English. And 09:20:05 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:22:58 |\n| 12 if you have a question or you would like a question
09:20: 10 | Q. Ms. Wang,Iwasjustabouttoaskyouifyou 09:22:58
12 |\n| 13 translated into Mandarin or if you would like an
09:20: 13 | 13 are on any medication or under the influence of
09:23:01 |\n| 14 answer translated into Mandarin, please just say so,
09:20:20
15 and Ms. Johnston can help.
09:20:24 | 14 any- -- an1thing that might impair your memory or
09:23:05
15 interfere with your ability to answer questions
09:23:09 |\n| 16
Is that acceptable to you?
09:20:27 | 16 truthfully.
09:23:12 |\n| 17
A. Okay. Yes.
09:20:30 | 17
A. No.
09:23: 15 |\n| 18
Thank you.
09:20:52 | Q. Is there any reason you can think of why you 09:23: 17
18 |\n| 19
Q. Okay. Very good.
09:20:52 | 19 cannot provide truthful testimony today?
09:23 :20 |\n| 20
And just a few more things. Because we are
09:20:56 | 20
A. I don't think there is any reason, sir.
09:23 :24 |\n| 21 doing this deposition remotely, it is very important 09:20:59 | 21
Q. Okay. Super.
09:23:29 |\n| 22 for the court reporter that only one person be
09:21:03 | 22
I believe you have been deposed at least
09:23:30 |\n| 23 speaking at a time.
09:21:08 | 23 once before in October of2018 in litigation
09:23:37 |\n| 24
Do you understand?
09:21 :09 | 24 involvingPAX.
09:23:44 |\n| A. (In English) Yes, Ido. Yeah.
09:21:12
25 | 25
Do you recall that deposition?
09:23:46 |\n\n4 (Pages 10 - 13)\n\n| | A. Correct.
09:26:51 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| A. I remember I was deposed before, but I don't 09:23 :48 | I |\n| 2 recollect the -- the dates -- the precise dates. | Q. Did you meet with them in person to do that 09:26:52 |\n| 09:23:56 | 2 |\n| Q. Understand.
09:23:59
3 | 3 preparation?
09:26:56 |\n| Other than that deposition where PAX | A. No. |\n| 09:24:00 | 09:26:57 |\n| 4 | 4 |\n| 5 examined you, have you been deposed in any other | Due to COVID, I meet our counsels via -- via 09:26:59 |\n| 09:24:09 | 5 |\n| 6 litigation since then? | 6 video call. |\n| 09:24: 13 | 09:27:07 |\n| A. Sir, since -- since then? You mean since | Q. Thank you. |\n| 09:24: 15 | 09:27:08 |\n| 7 | 7 |\n| 8 when? | 8 |\n| 09:24:19 | Did you have communications with anyone else 09:27:08 |\n| Q. Well, I'll represent to you that the
09:24:20
9 | 9 at Golden Spring -- via telephone, videoconference,
09:27: 11 |\n| 10 deposition that PAX conducted of you was in October | 10 or otherwise -- to prepare for today's deposition? |\n| 09:24:23 | 09:27: 17 |\n| 11 of2018.
09:24:26 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
09:27:24
11 |\n| And my question is have you been deposed | 12 |\n| 09:24:30 | The witness can answer without disclosing |\n| 12 | 09:27:25 |\n| 13 since then? | 13 any conversations with either inhouse counsel or |\n| 09:24:33 | 09:27:28 |\n| 14
A. I believe so.
09:24:34 | 14 outside counsel.
09:27:32 |\n| Q. And do you recall when? | THE WITNESS: Sir, sorry. |\n| 09:24:37 | 09:27:36 |\n| 15 | 15 |\n| A. I don't recall. | Can you repeat your question? |\n| 09:24:44 | 09:27:37 |\n| 16 | 16 |\n| 17
Q. In what proceeding?
09:24:45 | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:27:40 |\n| A. It was in a case called Strategic Vision, | 18 |\n| 09:24:49 | Q. Yes. |\n| 18 | 09:27:41 |\n| 19 Eastern Profits -- or Eastern Profits, Strategic
09:24:57 | It was a yes-or-no question that did not
19
09:27:41 |\n| 20 Vision. It should be the same case. | 20 call for any -- any privileged information. |\n| 09:25 :02 | 09:27:43 |\n| Q. Okay. And in -- in what course is that | The question is did you meet with any |\n| 09:25:04 | 09:27:46 |\n| 21 | 21 |\n| 22 case, if you know? | 22 personnel at Golden Spring -- via telephone, Zoom, |\n| 09:25:07 | 09:27:50 |\n| 23
A. In a court in New York.
09:25:08 | 23 videoconference or otherwise -- to prepare for your
09:27:57 |\n| 24
Q. Okay. Any other depositions, besides that
09:25:11 | 24 deposition today?
09:28:01 |\n| 25 one, since October of2018?
09:25:20 | A. Yes, I did.
09:28:01
25 |\n| Page 14 | Page 16 |\n| | |\n| A. Hmmm. No.
09:25:25
1 | Q. With whom did you communicate at
09:28:05 |\n| Q. Do you understand that you are here today as 09:25:27 | 2 Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today? |\n| 2 | 09:28:08 |\n| 3 a corporate representative of Golden Spring | 3 |\n| 09:25:35 | 09:28: 11 |\n| 4 (New York)? | A. I communicated with the owner of |\n| 09:25:40 | 4 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, Mr. Qiang Guo. Let 09:28:U |\n| 5
A. Yes, I do.
09:25:40 | 5 me spell, Q-i-a-n-g, last name G-u-o.
09:28:25 |\n| | |\n| 6 | 6 |\n| Q. Did you review the topics that we intend to | Q. How much time did you spend communicating |\n| 09:25:42 | 09:28:32 |\n| 7 cover with you today that were contained in the | 7 with him? |\n| 09:25:48 | 09:28:37 |\n| 8 deposition notice before your testimony today?
09:25:51 | 8
A. How much time? Like, ten fifteen -- about,
09:28:38 |\n| 9
A. Yes.
09:25:55 | 9 like, fifteen minutes -- ten, fifteen minutes.
09:28:49 |\n| 10 | 10 |\n| I did review the topics. | Q. Is there anyone else at Golden Spring with |\n| 09:25:59 | 09:28:52 |\n| Q. Okay. What did you do to prepare -- excuse
09:26:01
11 | 11 whom you communicated to prepare for today's
09:28:55 |\n| 12 me -- prepare for your deposition today, generally | 12 deposition? |\n| 09:26:05 | 09:28:57 |\n| 13 speaking?
09:26:08 | A. No.
09:28:57
13 |\n| 14 | 14 |\n| A. I prepared with our law firm -- with our | Q. Is there anyone else in the world, other |\n| 09:26:09 | 09:28:58 |\n| 15 attorneys.
09:26:15 | 15 than attorneys, with whom you communicated to prepare 09:29:01 |\n| Q. Okay. Did you review documents?
09:26:16
16 | 16 for today's deposition?
09:29:05 |\n| 17 | 17 |\n| A. Yes. | A. No. |\n| 09:26:21 | 09:29:07 |\n| 18 | Q. What is the name of -- withdrawn. |\n| I did review documents. | 18 |\n| 09:26:22 | 09:29:09 |\n| 19 | 19 |\n| Q. Did you meet with any other personnel at | A moment ago, when you said you met with |\n| 09:26:24 | 09:29:26 |\n| 20 Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today? | 20 lawyers to prepare for today's deposition, lawyers |\n| 09:26:29 | 09:29:29 |\n| A. Meet -- I'm sorry.
09:26:32
21 | 21 from which firm or firms?
09:29:35 |\n| 22
What do you mean? You mean meet in person? 09:26:38 | 22
A. Attorneys from Mr. Scott Rosen's firm.
09:29:37 |\n| 23 What do you mean, meet?
09:26:41 | 23 I couldn't pronounce his law firm's name. It should 09:29:45 |\n| 24
Q. Well, a moment ago you said that the law
09:26:43
25 firm assisted you in preparing for today.
09:26:49 | 24 be -- I mean, it is complicated for me to pronounce
09:29:49
25 his law firm's name; so Mr. Scott Rosen and his
09:29:55 |\n\n5 (Pages **14** - 17)\n\n| I colleague, Mr. Timothy -- Tim.
09:29:59 | 1 the -- the second one that says deposition of
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Q. Tim Miltenberger?
09:30:01 | 2 Yvette Wang.
09:35:11 |\n| 3
A I believe so. I don't remember his last
09:30:05 | 3
MR. ROSEN: Counsel, before you proceed with 09:35: 11 |\n| 4 name It sounds like it correct.
09:30:07 | 4 the question, could you please explain to me which of 09:35: 13 |\n| Q. Okay. Did you meet or consult with any
5
09:30:09 | 5 the 30(b )(6) topics this document pertains to.
09:35:17 |\n| 6 lawyers from the Brown Rudnick firm to prepare for
09:30: 13 | MR. HARBACH: Well, it could be -- it could 09:35:23
6 |\n| 7 today's deposition?
09:30:23 | 7 be any number of them because the document is the
09:35:25 |\n| 8
A No, I didn't
09:30:24 | 8 transcript of her prior deposition; so it will be
09:35:29 |\n| 9
Q. When was Golden Spring (New York)Limited
09:30:27 | 9 multiple such topics.
09:35:33 |\n| 10 formed?
09:30:40 | 10
MR. ROSEN: I'll reserve the right to object 09:35:36 |\n| II
A Golden Spring (New York) Limited was formed 09:30:40 | 11 and instruct the witness not to answer if it exceeds
09:35:38 |\n| 12 in the year of 2015.
09:30:45 | 12 the scope of the 30(b )(6).
09:35:42 |\n| 13
Q. Does March 2015 sound about right to you?
09:30:47 | 13
But go ahead and proceed.
09:35:43 |\n| 14
A In March, yes.
09:30:54 | 14
MR. HARBACH: Understood.
09:35:46 |\n| 15
Q. What is Golden Spring (New York)'s
09 30.59 | Is there anyone who can't see the exhibit in 09:35:49
15 |\n| 16 relationship to Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:31 :03 | 16 their marked exhibits folder before I go on?
09:35:51 |\n| 09.3109
17
A Golden Spring (New York) Limited is | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:35:59 |\n| 18 100 percent owned by China Golden Spring (Hong Kong). 09 :31 : 15 | 18
Q. Okay. Ms. Wang, can you see it?
09:36:00 |\n| Q. And for purposes of today's deposition, I'm 09:31 :21
19 | 19
A. Sir, I can see a .pd- -- it says .pdffile
09:36:03 |\n| 20 going to refer to China Golden Spring (Hong Kong) as 09:31 :27 | 20 with forty-two pages.
09:36:07 |\n| 21 just Golden Spring (Hong Kong).
09:31 :33 | 21
Q. You got it?
09:36:09 |\n| 22
Is that okay with you?
09:31 :36 | 22
A. This is the one?
09:36: 11 |\n| 23
A Yes.
09:31 :37 | 23
Gotit. Okay.
09:36: 12 |\n| Q. Okay. Did you ever work at Golden Spring
24
09:31 :39 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
24
09:36: 13 |\n| 25 (Hong Kong)?
09:31 :45 | 25
Please open that one up.
09:36:15 |\n| Page 18 | Page 20 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 1
A Yes.
09:31 :49 | 1
A. (Witness complies.)
09:36:18 |\n| Q. Do you recall when you worked there?
09:31 :50
2 | Yes.
09:36: 18
2 |\n| A That was back to 2016 for, like, a couple of 09:31:53
3 | Q. So just to refresh your recollection before
09:36: 19
3 |\n| 4 months.
09:32:05 | 4 I proceed, the question I put to you concerned the
09:36:22 |\n| Q. Okay. I would like to show you what I'm
5
09:32:07 | 5 dates that you worked at Golden Spring (Hong Kong).
09:36:25 |\n| 6 going to mark as Exhibit 1.
09:32:22 | 6 And I believe you said that it was approximately
09:36:31 |\n| (Deposition Exhibit Number 1
09:32:29
7 | 7 2016. And I just want to show you in the deposition 09:36:36 |\n| was marked for identification.)
09:32:29
8 | 8 in 2018 where you were asked about this. Let me read 09:36:42 |\n| MR. HARBACH: And we'll just wait a moment
9
09:32:32 | 9 what you said, and then ask the question again.
09:36:49 |\n| 10 for my colleague to drop it in there. Just sit
09:32:34 | 10
So I -- can I direct your attention to page
09:36:52 |\n| 11 tight, everybody. It will be there in a second.
09:32:56 | 11 thirty of the transcript.
09:36:55 |\n| 12 Sorry for the delay. We are working on it. It seems 09:33: 17 | 12
A. (Witness complies.)
09:37:00 |\n| 13 to be a little slow. It is uploading now.
09:33:30 | 13
Q. Let me know when you are there.
09:37:02 |\n| Ms. Russo is telling me it should be in
14
09:34:30 | 14
A. Page thirty, three, zero, sir; right?
09:37:09 |\n| 15 there, but I don't see it in my marked exhibits
09:34:33 | Q. Yes,ma'am. That is right.
09:37:15
15 |\n| 16 folder.
09:34:37 | And it is the -- you know, page thirty of
16
09:37: 18 |\n| 17
Does anyone else?
09:34:38 | 17 the miniature pages.
09:37:21 |\n| MR. KAPLAN: There -- there are two folders. 09:34:42
18 | Do you see how each of the miniature pages
18
09:37:23 |\n| 19 It looks like it is in the second one.
09:34:45 | 19 is numbered?
09:37:26 |\n| 20
MR. HARBACH: Okay. Got it.
09:34:57 | A. I am on page thirty.
20
09:37:30 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Counsel--
09:34:59
21 | 21
What do you mean, miniature pages? I don't 09:37:33 |\n| 22
MR. HARBACH: That seems --
09:35:00 | 22 understand that.
09:37:38 |\n| 23
MR. ROSEN: -- before we --
09:35:00 | Q. Well, each-- sure.
23
09:37:39 |\n| 24
MR. HARBACH: That seems to be the way it is 09:35:02
25 on -- on my computer. It is in the second one in
09:35:05 | Each page of the document that I just sent
24
09:37:41
25 you has four pages of the transcript on it.
09:37:44 |\n\n6 (Pages 18 - 21)\n\n| 1
Do you see that?
09:37:47 | 1 from 2018, I believe; so before that I don't believe
09:40:44 |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| A. Yes.
09:37:48
2 | 2 I work for Golden Spring (New York). Technically,
09:40:52 |\n| 3
Q. Okay. So those are the page numbers that
09:37:48 | 3 I work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and -- which
09:40:56 |\n| 4 I am referring to. And on page thirty, at line ten,
09:37:52 | 4 include the time of the 2016, when I revert because
09:41:01 |\n| 5 you were asked a question that reads:
09:38:03 | 5 2015 -- 2016 I revert. 2016, that is a more
09:41:06 |\n| \"QUESTION: Then you moved to Hong Kong 09:38:05
6 | 6 consecutive period of time for me to base in
09:41 :12 |\n| in 2015 to work in September of2015 to work 09:38:07
7 | 7 Hong Kong; so besides that, I traveled between
09:41:16 |\n| 8
for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?\"
09:38: 13 | 8 Hong Kong/U.S.
09:41:20 |\n| 9
And your answer was:
09:38:18 | Q. Okay. Solthinkiunderstandyou,but
9
09:41:22 |\n| \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
09:38:19
10 | 10 I want to make sure.
09:41:25 |\n| Do you see that there?
09:38:21
11 | In approximately 2015 you started working
09:41 :28
11 |\n| A. Sir, which page? It is page thirty, but
12
09:38:23 | 12 for Golden Spring (Hong Kong), and you worked for
09:41:33 |\n| 13 there are four -- four little page number.
09:38:26 | 13 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) until sometime in 2018, at 09:41:40 |\n| Q. For--
14
09:38:31 | 14 which point you began working for Golden Spring
09:41:46 |\n| A. I'm not sure which one.
09:38:32
15 | 15 (New York).
09:41:49 |\n| 16
Q. Right.
09:38:34 | Do I have that right?
16
09:41:49 |\n| A. Is it Page 113 or 14, 15 or 16 9 Which one
17
09:38:35 | A. I officially started to work for
17
09:41:53 |\n| 18 you are talking about?
09:38:39 | 18 Golden Spring (New York) from 2018, yes. You are
09:41:57 |\n| 19
Q. I understand. I understand your confusion.
09:38:41 | 19 correct on that.
09:42:03 |\n| When I refer to page numbers of this
20
09:38:44 | 20
Q. Okay. And prior to that, you worked for
09:42:04 |\n| 21 transcript, I am only talking about the pages -- the
09:38:46 | 21 Golden Spring (Hong Kong); is that correct?
09:42: 10 |\n| 22 page numbers for the small pages.
09:38:51 | 22
A. I believe it is more a mix because I was
09:42:14 |\n| A. Oh.
09:38:53
23 | 23 working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and same time
09:42:20 |\n| 24
Q. Okay?
09:38:54 | 24 I was working for Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business
09:42:23 |\n| And I know it is confusing. I'm sorry.
25
09:38:57
Page 22 | 25 in China also; so that is the reason when I referred 09:42:29
Page 24 |\n| 1
A. All right. Let me go back and find it.
09:38:59 | I I was in Hong Kong in 2016. That is a -- as I said, 09 :42 :33 |\n| Q. Yeah. Go back to page thirty of the little
2
09:39:01 | 2 a penod of consecutive time for me to -- leaving
09·42 ·42 |\n| 3 pages.
09:39:04 | 3 Hong Kong and working Hong Kong -- for Hong Kong.
09:42:46 |\n| 4
A. (Witness complies.)
09:39:06 | 09:42:49
4 That is my -- that is my representation. |\n| Yes.
09:39: 14
5 | 5
Q Were you -- at the time you were working for 09:42:51 |\n| I'm on the little page, on page thirty right 09:39:14
6 | 6 Golden Spring (Hong Kong), were you physically in
09:42:55 |\n| 7 now.
09:39: 17 | 7 Hong Kong'
09:43 :00 |\n| Q. Okay. Yes. Sorry for the confusion.
09:39:17
8 | 8
A Not always.
09:43 :03 |\n| So take a look at line ten on page thirty,
9
09:39: 19 | 9
Q Okay Whendidyoumovetothe
09:43:05 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 10 and you will see a question there about when you
09:39:22 | 10 United States?
09:43:11 |\n| 11 moved to Hong Kong to work for Golden Spring
09:39:26 | II
09:43.11
A What do you mean, move, sir? |\n| 12 (Hong Kong).
09:39:30 | Q When did you come to the United States for
09:43:17
12 |\n| Do you see that?
09:39:31
13 | 09:43:22
13 the first time? How about that? |\n| 14
A. Yes.
09:39:35 | A That was many years ago.
09:43:26
14 |\n| I saw this.
09:39:53
15 | Q Did you come to the United States during the 09:43:28
15 |\n| Q. Okay. And so my question for you is --
16
09:39:55 | 16 time that you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:43 :34 |\n| 17 first of all, let's just focus on the date.
09:40:00 | 09:43:37
17
A Yes. |\n| 18
Okay? Having read this, does that inform
09:40:03 | During the time I worked for Golden Spring
09:43 :39
18 |\n| 19 your judgment about when it was that you began to
09:40:09 | 19 (Hong Kong), I did travel into the United States
09:43:43 |\n| 20 work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:40:12 | 20 also.
09:43:46 |\n| A. My answer, back to this page, which I mean
09:40: 16
21 | Q Okay When was that?
09:43 :47
21 |\n| 22 that, yes. I moved to Hong Kong in 2015, and then
09:40:25 | A Oh, I couldn't recall. It should -- between 09:43 :49
22 |\n| 23 I worked in there. I traveled to -- in U.S. But if 09:40:28 | 23 2015 to 2017 or '18. I couldn't recall.
09:43:56 |\n| 24 you have my full Golden Spring (New York) corporation 09:40:34 24
25 records, I officially start work in Golden Spring
09:40:41 | Q When you came to the United States in that
09:44:07
25 time period, did you return to China?
09:44: 10 |\n\n7 (Pages 22 - 25)\n\n| 1
MR. ROSEN: Objection. Counsel, could you
09:44:15 | 1
Q. Did you move? Do you know what I mean by
09:46:42 |\n|----------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 please show me which of the 30(b)(6) topics this
09:44: 18 | 2 move?
09:46:47 |\n| 3 relates to and give me some explanation as to where
09:44:21 | 3
A. Yes.
09:46:47 |\n| 4 you are going here.
09:44:24 | 4
Q. Okay. Did there come a time when you moved 09:46:48 |\n| 5
MR. HARBACH: Yeah. Sure.
09:44:26 | 5 to the United States for work?
09:46:51 |\n| I am really just trying to get basic
09:44:26
6 | A. Yes.
09:46:59
6 |\n| 7 background of the witness' affiliation with the
09:44:29 | Q. When was that?
09:47:00
7 |\n| 8 company that she represents. It is very basic. I am 09:44:34 | 8
A. That was started I became to be the officer 09:47:01 |\n| 9 trying to figure out when she worked, where, and for
09:44:36 | 9 and director of Golden Spring (New York).
09:47:09 |\n| 10 whom. That's it. It informs her competency as the
09:44:40 | 10
Q. Which was when?
09:47:11 |\n| 11 30(b)(6) witness, and it gives con- -- it gives
09:44:44 | A. Thatwasbeginningof2018,lateof2017.
09:47:17
11 |\n| 12 context to her later testimony.
09:44:47 | 12 I couldn't remember. It should be beginning of 2018. 09:47:25 |\n| MR. ROSEN: I -- honestly, I don't see how
09:44:49
13 | Q. Okay. I'm going to show you another
09:47:29
13 |\n| 14 her travel plans has anything to do with this.
09:44:52 | 14 document.
09:47:36 |\n| And I'm going to instruct the witness at
09:44:56
15 | MR. HARBACH: We'll call this one number
09:47:38
15 |\n| 16 this point to simply not answer questions about her
09:44:58 | 16 two.
09:47:41 |\n| 17 travel and her whereabouts at various times. If you 09:45:02 | 17
(Deposition Exhibit Number 2
09:47:41 |\n| 18 would like to ask questions about her specific duties 09:45:05 | 18
was marked for identification.)
09:48:39 |\n| | |\n| 19 and what she performed and when she performed it,
09:45:08 | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:48:39 |\n| 20 I have no objection to that.
09:45:11 | 20
Q. Do you see Exhibit 2 in your folder,
09:48:40 |\n| MR. HARBACH: And you --you are going to
09:45:12
21 | 21 Ms. Wang?
09:48:42 |\n| 22 object to any question about her physical location
09:45: 13 | 22
A. Yes.
09:48:44 |\n| 23 when she performed those duties? Is that what
09:45: 16 | 23
Q. Okay. It should also be a .pdf. Please
09:48:46 |\n| 24 I understand?
09:45:18 | 24 open it up.
09:48:51 |\n| MR. ROSEN: You --your questions were going 09:45:20
25
Page 26 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:48:52
25
Page 28 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I way beyond that. If you want to ask her specific
09:45:23 | Yes, I did.
09:48:54
I |\n| 2 duty and where she was, then we can address that
09:45:25 | 2
Q. Okay. Now, on this one I'm going to ask you 09:48:55 |\n| 3 question as it comes up. But you are asking about
09:45:28 | 3 to turn to page -- okay -- forty-nine.
09:49:01 |\n| 4 general travel plans. You are asking about her--
09:45:31 | 4
A. (Witness complies.)
09:49:14 |\n| 5 her work for other companies. She is a 30(b)(6)
09:45:35 | 5
Q. Tell me when you are on page forty-nine.
09:49:27 |\n| 6 witness for Golden Spring (New York), and that is
09:45:38 | 6
A. Yes, I am.
09:49:34 |\n| 7 where the questions should be directed.
09:45:41 | 7
Q. Okay. Looking at line five, the question
09:49:35 |\n| 8 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:45:44 | 8 was put to you:
09:49:39 |\n| 9
Q. Ms. Wang, where were you physically located 09:45:45 | \"QUESTION: And when did you move to
09:49:41
9 |\n| 10 when you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:45:47 | 10
New York to start working for the Guo
09:49:43 |\n| A. What do you mean, physically located?
09:45 :55
11 | family?\"
09:49:47
11 |\n| 12 I mean, like, stay in hotel or staying-- I mean,
09:45:59 | Your answer:
09:49:48
12 |\n| 13 I don't understand, sir.
09:46:03 | \"ANSWER: That was a date I never
09:49:50
13 |\n| 14
Q. What country were you in when you worked for 09:46:04 | 14
forget. That was April 23rd, 2015.\"
09:49:52 |\n| 15 Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
09:46:07 | Do you see that there?
09:49:59
15 |\n| 16
A. I was in Hong Kong, and I was -- I traveled 09 :46: 10 | A. Yes,ldid.
16
09:50:01 |\n| 17 in the U.S. I traveled in UK. I mean, I still don't 09:46: 14 | 17
MR. HARBACH: Okay. This deposition, for
09:50:02 |\n| 18 understand what do you mean physically located, but
09:46: 19 | 18 the record -- correction.
09:50:04 |\n| 19 that is the places I had been to.
09:46:22 | 19
This testimony, for the record, was given in 09:50:06 |\n| 20
Q. Okay. Did there come a time when you
09:46:24 | 20 May of 2019, just under three years ago.
09:50:09 |\n| 21 merge -- moved to the United States permanently for
09:46:29 | 21 BY MR. HARBACH:
09:50:15 |\n| 22 work?
09:46:35 | 22
Q. So is that accurate that you moved to
09:50: 16 |\n| 23
A. Sir, what do you mean permanently?
09:46:35 | 23 New York to start working for the Guo family in April 09:50:20 |\n| 24
Q. Did you move?
09:46:38 | 24 of2015?
09:50:24 |\n| A. Permanent --
09:46:40
25
Page 27 | A. As I said, English is not my mother
09:50:26
25
Page 29 |\n\n8 (Pages 26 - 29)\n\n| | 1 language. When you say move, I mean, I understand
09:50:32 | 1 New York and Hong Kong both. I don't see now where
09:54:09 |\n|----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 better by now more than two, three -- three, four
09:50:35 | 2 there is any problem. I said I'll work in New York
09:54:11 |\n| | 3 years ago, and that was right. I left China. I came 09:50:40 | 3 and Hong Kong -- starting from New York and back to
09:54: 11 |\n| | 4 to New York-- I came to New York first. Then I went 09:50:45 | 4 Hong Kong because I originally need to follow
09:54:13 |\n| | 5 back to Hong Kong.
09:50:49 | 5 Mr. Qiang Guo, if that makes sense to you, sir.
09:54:18 |\n| 6 | So regarding work for it the Guo family,
09:50:50 | Q. Well, I just want to point out that I wasn't 09:54:21
6 |\n| | 7 which I refer always as my -- my boss -- like, the
09:50:54 | 7 suggesting there was a problem. I am just trying to
09:54:25 |\n| | 8 owner of Golden Spring, Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g
09:51:00 | 8 understand the facts of what happened; so here is my 09:54:28 |\n| | 9 G-u-o --that is the same Guo family.
09:51:06 | 9 next question.
09:54:31 |\n| 10 | Q. So did you start working for the Guo family
09: 51:09 | When did you start working at Golden Spring 09:54:32
10 |\n| | II in New York in April of2015? Is that correct or not 09:51:23 | 11 (New York)?
09:54:36 |\n| | 12 correct?
09:51:33 | 12
A. I believe I replied your question, sir,
09:54:40 |\n| 13 | A. I started to work for the Guo family from
09:51:33 | 13 about Golden Spring (New York). That was started --
09:54:44 |\n| | 14 2000-- end of 2008. That is, like --
09:51:39 | 14 I was appointed as officer and director of
09:54:46 |\n| 15 | Q. Yeah. Let me -- let me interrupt and ask my 09:51:43 | 15 Golden Spring (New York).
09:54:50 |\n| | 16 question again as you may have misunderstood it.
09:51:46 | 16
Q. When?
09:54:50 |\n| 17 | Did you start working for the Guo family in
09: 51: 49 | 17
A. 2018.
09:54:5 I |\n| | 18 New York in April of2015?
09:51:52 | 18
Q. Do you recall when in 2018?
09:54:54 |\n| 19 | A. Start work for the Guo family. I mean,
09:52:00 | A. In spring of 2018.
19
09:54:59 |\n| | 20 again, I don't remember this question many years ago. 09:52: 13 | 20
Q. Okay. Let's go back to Exhibit I. Let me
09:55:02 |\n| | 21 As I said --
09:52:17 | 21 know when you have got Exhibit I pulled up, Ms. Wang. 09:55:14 |\n| 22 | Q. No.
09:52: 18 | 22
A. (Witness complies.)
09:55: 19 |\n| 23 | You -- you -- you testified that it was
09: 5 2: 18 | 23
Yes. I'm here.
09:55:20 |\n| | 24 a date you'll never forget; so that is why I'm
09:52:20 | 24
Q. Okay. Page numbers again, I'm talking about 09:55:22 |\n| | 25 pressing you a little bit on it.
09:52:25 | 25 the little page numbers. If you please go to page
09:55:25 |\n| | Page 30 | Page 32 |\n| I | My question is when did you start working
09:52:27 | I thirty-five.
09:55:32 |\n| | 2 for the Guo family in New York? The transcript here
09: 52:32 | (Witness complies.)
09:55:36
2
A. |\n| | 3 seems to suggest that that was in April of 2015, and 09:52:38 | Let me know --
09:55:50
Q.
3 |\n| | 4 I'm asking you whether that is accurate.
09:52:44 | A.
Yes.
09:55:51
4 |\n| 5 | Is it accurate? Is it not accurate? Or do
09:52:47 | 5
Q.
-- when you are there.
09:55:52 |\n| | 6 you not know?
09:52:51 | Yes. I'm here.
09:55:54
6
A. |\n| 7 | A. April 23rd in 2015. That is the date
09:52:52 | Q. Okay. Take a look on page thirty-five of
7
09:55:55 |\n| | 8 I never forgot because I left China. I was never --
09:53:00 | 8 Exhibit 1, line ten.
09:55:59 |\n| | 9 I was never able to go back.
09:53:03 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:56:00
9 |\n| 10 | Okay?
09:53:06 | Q. The question reads:
09:56:05
10 |\n| 11 | So that is accurate. When I answered this
09:53:07 | \"QUESTION: You said in February of2018 09:56:07
11 |\n| | 12 question, I don't believe I have any interpreter help 09:53:10 | 12
you came to work for Golden Spring
09:56:09 |\n| | 13 me by then; so the question looks like right now
09:53: 14 | 13
(New York)?\"
09:56:09 |\n| | 14 reading as when did you move to New York to start
09:53:18 | 14
And your answer was:
09:56:13 |\n| | 15 working for the Guo family? I was not quite
09:53:21 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
09:56:15
15 |\n| | 16 understanding this question withouttranslation by
09:53:24 | 16
Now, my only focus here is on whether
09:56:16 |\n| | 17 then; so if you ask me when I start to work for Guo
09:53 :27 | 17 February of '18 sounds like the correct date to you
09:56: 18 |\n| | 18 family, which I can tell you, I started-- my career 09:53:31 | 18 of when you started working for Golden Spring
09:56:22 |\n| | 19 started from 2008, but I started to work for Guo
09:53:36 | 19 (New York).
09:56:25 |\n| | 20 family outside of China. That was started from 2015. 09:53:40 | A. Sir, I replied as in spring of 2018.
20
09:56:28 |\n| 21 | That is my correct and truthful answer now.
09:53:44 | 21 !mean--
09:56:33 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 22 | Q. And that was in New York City; correct?
09:53:47 | 22
Q. I'm -- I'm not suggesting anything other
09:56:36 |\n| 23 | A. Starting from New York and Hong Kong.
09:53:49 | 23 than whether February is correct.
09:56:39 |\n| 24
25 | Q. Okay.
09:53:53
A. I mean, by then Mr. Qiang Guo, he was in
09:54:06 | 24
Does that sound about right to you?
09:56:42
A. I don't recall. In spring of 2018. You
25
09:56:46 |\n\n9 (Pages 30 - 33)\n\n| | 1 could check on Golden Spring (New York)'s corporation 09:56:49 | 1 whether there was a chauffeur employed at
10:00:03 |\n|----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 book. It should be clearly in there.
09:56:54 | 2 Golden Spring (New York) when you started there?
10:00:07 |\n| 3 | Q. Was anyone else working at Golden Spring
09:56:56 | A. Sir, I am the witness today-- in my
3
10:00:12 |\n| | 4 (New York) when you started there in the spring of
09:57:07 | 4 understanding is about bankruptcy. I mean that this
10:00:18 |\n| | 5 2018?
09:57:09 | 5 is my task -- this was my testimony how many years
10:00:21 |\n| 6 | A. What do you mean, is there anyone working at 09:57: 10 | 6 ago? Three, four years ago?
10:00:27 |\n| | 7 Golden Spring (New York)?
09:57:20 | 7
I mean, I could remember by then because
10:00:29 |\n| 8 | Q. Well, you mentioned that you were, I think
09:57:21 | 8 that was a relatively closer date. I was deposed in 10:00:32 |\n| | 9 you said, appointed to Golden Spring in the spring of 09:57:24 | 9 October 2018, as you said. Now it is almost three
10:00:37 |\n| | 10 2018.
09:57:29 | 10 and a half, four years after. I mean, just so many
10:00:41 |\n| 11 | My question for you is at the time that you 09:57:32 | 11 years pass by, I couldn't remember that. But since
10:00:45 |\n| | 12 were appointed, were there any other people working
09:57:34 | 12 my testimony back to 2018 in here said that, that is
10:00:50 |\n| | 13 for Golden Spring (New York)?
09:57:40 | 13 possible. That reminded me. That's right. But that 10:00:54 |\n| 14 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo, himself.
09:57:44 | 14 doesn't mean that after three and a half, four years, 10:00:57 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay. Andwhatwashisjob?
09:57:49 | 15 I still should remember all the details; right? I am 10:01:02 |\n| 16 | A. He is one of the directors of Golden Spring 09:57:55 | 16 being deposed in here about a bankruptcy.
10:01:02 |\n| | 17 (New York).
09:57:59 | 17
Am I correct about this?
10:01:07 |\n| 18 | Q. Anyone else?
09:57:59 | Q. Well, you are --you are right about one
18
10:01:09 |\n| 19 | A. No.
09:58:03 | 19 part, and that is that I offered you this information 10:01:11 |\n| 20 | Just me and himself, when I was appointed.
09:58:08 | 20 to see if it would help refresh your memory.
10:01:14 |\n| 21 | Q. So no other employees who worked at
09:58:14 | 21
And, indeed, that was the question, whether
10:01:19 |\n| | 22 Golden Spring at that time?
09: 58: 19 | 22 reading this transcript helps refresh your memory
10:01:22 |\n| 23 | A. I don't recall.
09:58:23 | 23 about whether there was a chauffeur working at
10:01:25 |\n| 24 | Q. Do you recall whether there was a chauffeur 09:58:23 | 24 Golden Spring (New York) when you started.
10:01:30 |\n| | 25 who worked for Golden Spring (New York) at that time? 09:58:33 25 | A. I --
10:01 :31 |\n| | Page 34 | Page 36 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| I | A. I don't recall.
09:58:35 | MR. ROSEN: At this point, I'm going to
10:01:31
I |\n| 2 | Q. Let's take a look at Exhibit 1 again.
09:58:35 | 2 instruct the witness not to answer any further
10:01:33 |\n| 3 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:58:41 | 3 questions along these lines.
10:01 :36 |\n| 4 | Q. And this time let's go to page forty.
09:58:51 | 4
This is a deposition in a contested matter
10:01:37 |\n| 5 | A. (Witness complies.)
09:58:55 | 5 for approval ofa DIP financing arrangement in
10:01:41 |\n| 6 | Q. Tell me when you are there.
09:59:02 | 6 a bankruptcy case. So far, of the list of30(b)(6)
10:01:49 |\n| 7 | A. Yes, I am.
09:59:07 | 7 topics, these questions barely hit on any of these --
10:01:52 |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. Take a look at line seven. You say:
09:59:08 | 8 of the topics, maybe a little bit on the ownership
10:01:55 |\n| 9 | \"ANSWER: I remember that there was
09:59:24 | 9 structure. You have already covered the officers,
10:01:58 |\n| 10 | a driver. I met a chauffeur, a Korean
09:59:25 | 10 employees, and directors, and so far nothing about
10:02:02 |\n| 11 | gentleman, yes.\"
09:59:30 | 11 a DIP loan.
10:02:06 |\n| 12 | And then there is a question:
09:59:33 | So I would ask you, if you are going to do
12
10:02:07 |\n| 13 | \"QUESTION: You believe he was an
09:59:35 | 13 a fishing expedition or try and extend litigation
10:02:10 |\n| 14 | employee of Golden Spring before February of 09:59:36 | 14 from other courts here, that! would have to instruct 10:02: 12 |\n| 15 | '18?\"
09:59:39 | 15 the witness not to answer.
10:02:17 |\n| 16
17 | Your answer:
09:59:40
09:59:43 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:02:18
17
Q. Ms. Wang, just a moment ago you said that
10:02: 18 |\n| | \"ANSWER: February of 2018, that was he | |\n| 18 | told me by then.
09:59:46 | 18 reading this deposition transcript did help you
10:02:22 |\n| 19 | \"QUESTION: You met a chauffeur who told 09:59:48 | 19 remember.
10:02:26 |\n| 20 | you that he was an employee of Golden Spring 09:59:50 | And so my question is was there or was there 10:02:26
20 |\n| 21 | (New York)?
09:59:53 | 21 not a chauffeur working at Golden Spring (New York)
10:02:29 |\n| 22 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
09:59:54 | 22 at the time you started there?
10:02:32 |\n| 23 | And then you say that he was the one who
09:59:55 | 23
A. As my testimony back to 2018 said so, it is
10:02:37 |\n| 25 | 24 picked you up at the airport.
09:59:58
Does that refresh your recollection about
10:00:01 | 24 possible. You are helpful, sir.
10:02:42
25
Q. Okay. Was Mr. Mileson Kwok living in
10:02:44 |\n\n10 (Pages 34 - 37)\n\n| | 1 New York when you started working at Golden Spring
10:03:01 | 1
Q. No problem at all.
10:06:04 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 (New York)?
10:03:03 | 2
A. Thank you.
10:06:08 |\n| 3 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. I instruct the
10:03:03 | 3
Q. So we'll stick with Qiang Guo.
10:06:09 |\n| | 4 witness not to answer.
10:03:05 | 4
A. Thank you.
10:06:14 |\n| 5 | This has no relevance whatsoever to any of
10:03:06 | 5
Q. Okay. And you just testified that he is the 10:06:14 |\n| | 6 the 30(b)(6) deposition topics, none. And the
10:03:06 | son of Ho Wan Kwok, the debtor; right?
6
10:06:17 |\n| | 7 purpose of this is strictly to either relitigate or
10:03: 12 | 7
A. You are right, sir. Yes.
10:06:21 |\n| | 8 extend litigation from other courts or to harass this 10:03: 13 | 8
Q. So my question is was Qiang Guo living in
10:06:22 |\n| | 9 witness.
10:03:17 | 9 New York when you started working at Golden Spring
10:06:26 |\n| | 10 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:03:18 | 10 (New York)?
10:06:28 |\n| 11 | Q. Ms. Wang, do you know who Mileson Kwok is?
10:03:18 11 | A. Whatdoyoumean,livinginNewYork,sir?
10:06:30 |\n| 12 | A. Can you spell the name again, sir, please?
10:03:25 | 12 Like, I mean, I don't understand. Travel in there.
10:06:35 |\n| 13 | Q. Yes.
10:03:28 | 13 I met him in there, yes. I don't understand what you 10:06:38 |\n| 14 | M-i-1-e-s-o-n Kwok, K-w-o-k.
10:03:29 | 14 mean, living in New York.
10:06:42 |\n| 15 | Do you know who that is?
10:03:39 | 15
MR. HARBACH: Sunny, perhaps you can help
10:06:45 |\n| 16 | A. I don't know who you are referring, sir.
10:03:41 | 16 me. My question in English would be did
10:06:48 |\n| 17 | Q. Okay. You have mentioned someone who was
10:03:43 | 17 Mr. Qiang Guo live in New York at the time you
10:06:52 |\n| | 18 a director of Golden Spring at the time you became
10:03:47 | 18 started working at Golden Spring (New York)?
10:06:56 |\n| | 19 a director.
10:03:51 | 19
Could you please translate that for me?
10:06:59 |\n| 20 | What is that person's name?
10:03:52 | 20
THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)
10:07:36 |\n| 21 | A. If you refer to Mr. Qiang Guo, the same
10:03:56 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)
10:07:36
21 |\n| | 22 director when I was appointed, his name is Q-i-a-n-g
10:04:01 | 22 I officially started working for Golden Spring
10:07:36 |\n| | 23 G-u-o. His English name is Mileson, M-i-1-e-s-o-n,
10:04:08 | 23 (NewYork)in2018. Idon'trecall whether or not
10:07:39 |\n| | 24 and the last name is G-u-o, sir, if that is helpful
10:04:20 | 24 Mr. Qiang Guo was living in New York at the time.
10:07:41 |\n| | 25 to you.
10:04:25 | 25 Ill |\n| | Page 38 | Page 40 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| 1 | Is this the person you are referring?
10:04:27 | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:07:46 |\n| 2 | Q. It -- it is.
10:04:29 | Q. Did you see him in New York personally
10:07:46
2 |\n| 3 | A. Okay.
10:04:29 | 3 around the time that you started working at
10:07:54 |\n| 4 | Q. And--
10:04:29 | 4 Golden Spring (New York)?
10:07:57 |\n| 5 | A. I never heard about someone called
10:04:30 | 5
A. I don't recall.
10:08:01 |\n| | 6 Mileson Kwok. I mean, I never heard about this
10:04:33 | Q. Have you ever seen Mr. Qiang Guo personally
10:08:02
6 |\n| | 7 person.
10:04:36 | 7 in New York?
10:08: 10 |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. How is Mileson Guo related to
10:04:36 | A. Yes, I did.
8
10:08: 13 |\n| | 9 Wengui Guo? And that is spelled W-e-n-g-u-i G-u-o.
10:04:45 | 9
Q. When was the last time?
10:08:14 |\n| 10 | How are they related, if at all, if you
10:04:57 | 10
A. I don't recall.
10:08: 18 |\n| | 11 know?
10:05:00 | Q. Within the last year?
10:08:21
11 |\n| 12 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o -- he is
10:05:00 | A. I don't recall.
12
10:08:25 |\n| | 13 the son of Mr. H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k.
10:05:07 | Q. Within the last five years?
10:08:26
13 |\n| 14 | Q. And that is H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k; correct?
10:05:23 | 14
A. Yes.
10:08:30 |\n| 15 | A. You are right, sir.
10:05:29 | 15
It was possible.
10:08:37 |\n| 16 | Q. So for ease of understanding for everyone
10:05:30 | Q. Was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok living in New York at
10:08:38
16 |\n| | 17 who is reading this transcript, can we please refer
10:05:33 | 17 the time you started working for Golden Spring
10:08:47 |\n| | 18 to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's son as Mileson? Is that okay
10:05:36 | 18 (New York)?
10:08:49 |\n| | 19 withyou?
10:05:45 | 19
MR. ROSEN: Objection. This is the same
10:08:51 |\n| 20 | A. No, sir.
10:05:46 | 20 issue.
10:08:53 |\n| 21 | I will prefer to stay with Mr. Qiang Guo.
10:05:47 | I think-- Counsel, could you please explain 10:08:55
21 |\n| | 22 The reason because, again, English is not my mother
10:05:51 | 22 the relevance of this question to me.
10:08:56 |\n| | 23 language. I do not want to pronounce something which 10:05:54 | 23
MR. HARBACH: Well, as you know,
10:09:02 |\n| | 24 was -- which could be misunderstood by everyone here, 10:05:58
25 iflmay.
10:06:03 | 24 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is the debtor, and it is certainly
10:09:03
25 with- -- within the scope of appropriate topics, in
10:09:07 |\n\n**11** (Pages 38 - 41)\n\n| | 1 our view, for me to explore Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's
10:09:13 | A. Yes.
10: 12:23 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 relationship to Golden Spring (New York), which is
10:09: 17 | 2
Q. Did you create this document?
10: 12:24 |\n| | 3 his putative lender on this DIP loan; so I'm starting 10:09:20 | A. I don't recall. It should be prepared by --
3
10:12:26 |\n| | 4 with the question about where Mr. Kwok lived at the
10:09:29 | 4 I don't recall.
10:12:37 |\n| | 5 time the witness started working at Golden Spring
10:09:32 | Q. Give me just one moment, please.
10:12:37
5 |\n| | 6 (New York). That is the relevance.
10:09:34 | 6
MR. HARBACH: Sorry for the -- the delay,
10:13:55 |\n| | 7 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:09:35 | 7 y'all, buthopefullyl'vejustsavedusalittle
10:13:58 |\n| 8 | Q. Ms. Wang, what is the answer?
10:09:35 | 8 time.
10:14:02 |\n| 9 | MR. ROSEN: I'm going to instruct the
10:09:37 | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:14:04 |\n| | 10 witness not to answer this question. This is --
10:09:38 | 10
Q. I'm going to ask you to put aside Exhibit 3, 10: 14:05 |\n| | 11 there is no relevance that I can see to disclosing
10:09:42 | 11 and I'll come back to that a little later.
10:14:08 |\n| | | |\n| | 12 the whereabouts and the present location of parties
10:09:44 | 12
Okay?
10: 14:12 |\n| | 13 here to a DIP loan funding. This is just -- it is
I 0:09:48 | A. Yes.
10:14:12
13 |\n| | 14 just harassment.
10:09:53 | I 0: 14: 13
14
Q. When -- when you were working for |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH: So you are -- you are
10:09:57 | 15 Golden Spring (Hong Kong), did you have any titles?
10:14:28 |\n| | 16 instructing the witness not to answer, Scott?
10:09:58 | 16
A. I don't recall. Too many years ago.
10: 14:35 |\n| 17 | MR. ROSEN: Yes, I am.
10:10:01 | 17
Q. What were your duties at Golden Spring
10:14:42 |\n| 18 | MR. HARBACH: Okay.
10:10:03 | 18 (Hong Kong)?
10: 14:45 |\n| | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:10:03 | 19
MR. ROSEN: Objection. This -- can you
10:14:47 |\n| 20 | Q. Ms. Wang, when you started working at
10: 10:04 | 20 please point to which topic on 30(b)(6) that
10:14:50 |\n| | 21 Golden Spring (New York), what was your title?
10: 10:06 | 21 a corporate witness of Golden Spring (New York)that
10:14:55 |\n| 22 | A. I was -- I am -- I was the -- the president, 10: 10: 11 | 22 this would -- this would be appropriate to?
10: 14:59 |\n| | 23 secretary, I believe treasurer also, and director.
10:10:16 | 23
MR. HARBACH: Again, I'm exploring her
10:15:01 |\n| 24 | Q. So you said, to make sure I have this right: 10: 10:23 | 24 competency to testify as a representative of
10: 15:04 |\n| | 25 President, secretary, treasurer, and director; is
10:10:27 | 25 Golden Spring (New York) by reference to her prior
I 0: 15 :07 |\n| | Page 42 | Page 44 |\n| | | |\n| | I that correct?
10:10:31 | 1 experience and its relationship to her current
10:15:10 |\n| | | |\n| 2 | A. Correct.
10:10:32 | 2 titles
10 15 13
3 |\n| 3 | Q. I'm going to show you -- let's call this
10: 10:32 | l\\1R. ROSEN: I'll let the objection stand.
10:15:16 |\n| | 4 numberthree.
10:10:41 | 4
But you can answer the question.
10:15:19 |\n| 5 | (Deposition Exhibit Number 3
10: 10:43 | 5 BY l\\1R. HARBACH:
10:15:22 |\n| 6 | was marked for identification.)
10: 10 :48 | 6
Q Thequestion,Ms. Wang, was what were your
10:15:23 |\n| 7 | MR. HARBACH: Wait for it to get populated.
10:10:48 | 7 duties at Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?
10:15:25 |\n| 8 | I'm told it should be there. I have it.
10: 11 :27 | 8
A I took instruction from the owner of
10:15:28 |\n| | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:11:30 | 9 company, Mr. Qiang Guo, and worked for him.
10:15:34 |\n| 10 | Q. Ms. Wang, do you have number three?
10:11:30 | 10
Q Did you -- domg what?
10:15:42 |\n| 11 | A. Yes, sir.
10:11:34 | A Doing the task that he request me to do.
10.15:46
11 |\n| 12 | I have it.
10:11:35 | 12 I don't recall. It is too many years ago.
10:15:52 |\n| 13 | Q. Okay. Super.
10:11:36 | Q You -- you -- you don't recall what your
13
10:15:54 |\n| 14 | Open that -- that one up.
10: 11:37 | 14 tasks were?
10:15:56 |\n| 15 | A. (Witness complies.)
10:11:39 | 15
A It is pretty diversified.
10:15:58 |\n| 16 | Q. And tell me if you recognize this document.
10: 11:42 | 16
Q Okay Do you recall whether when you were
10:16:04 |\n| 17 | A. Yes.
10: 11:46 | 17 working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) you did any
10:16:15 |\n| 18 | Q. Okay. This is a document that you helped
10:11:50 | 18 work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
10: 16:20 |\n| | 19 create and submitted with an affidavit, isn't it?
I 0: 11: 57 | 19
A I'm sorry.
10:16:21 |\n| 20 | A. What do you mean I created, sir?
10: 12:01 | 20
Sir, what is your question?
10:16:22 |\n| 21 | Q. Well, let me withdraw that question.
10:12:08 | Q When you were working for Golden Spring
10:16:24
21 |\n| 22 | You said that you recognized this document.
10:12: 11 | 22 Hong Kong, did you do any work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
10:16:30 |\n| 23 | What is it?
10:12: 13 | 23
A I don't recall.
10:16:32 |\n| 24 | A. It is a director and officer register.
10: 12:14 | 24
Q Who appointed you to be president,
10:16:33 |\n\n12 (Pages 42 - 45)\n\n| 1 (NewYork)Limited?
10:16:51 | Q. The transcript that! just read from was not 10:20:21
1 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
A. I was appointed by Mr. Qiang Guo.
10:16:52 | 2 a deposition. It was testimony in court, and it was
10:20:23 |\n| 3
Q. When he appointed you to those positions,
10: 16:56 | 3 in May of 2019.
10:20:28 |\n| 4 what did he tell you your duties would be?
10: 17:00 | 4
A. Okay.
10:20:32 |\n| A. I was appointed, and he -- he requested me
10: 1 7: 03
5 | Q. But these -- these appear to have been your
10:20:32
5 |\n| 6 to operate -- to run Golden Spring (New York), his
10:17:14 | 6 words, and so that is why I asked the question.
10:20:35 |\n| 7 company, as general.
10: 17: 19 | 7
A. So back to 2019, my testifying -- my
10:20:39 |\n| 8
Q. Tell me what you mean by as general.
10:17:21 | 8 testimony was correct. I mean, the entire --
10:20:44 |\n| A. I mean any task, assignment as the owner of 10: 17:25
9 | 9 Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business, including his
10:20:50 |\n| 10 company, himself, he requested to do that I will work 10:17:34 | 10 employees, were all persecuted. They are either
10:20:53 |\n| 11 for him.
10:17:39 | 11 arrested, kidnapped, or disappeared. I was one of
10:21 :00 |\n| Q. When you assumed the role of president,
12
10:17:40 | 12 the survivor by then. That was correct.
10:21:04 |\n| 13 secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring
10: 17:56 | And then when I testified back to 2019,
10:21:07
13 |\n| 14 (New York), did you have any financial professional
10:18:02 | 14 I said I don't have -- that was -- I am humble;
10:21:10 |\n| 15 knowledge?
10:18:05 | 15 right? So that was my testimony-- test- --
10:21:18 |\n| A. What do you mean, financial professional
10:18:07
16 | 16 testimony. And then now in 2022, I mean, I could
10:21:21 |\n| 17 knowledge, sir?
10:18:14 | 17 learn lots in three years; right?
10:21:26 |\n| 18
Q. Let's go back to Exhibit 1.
10:18:15 | Q. Of course.
18
10:21:29 |\n| A. (Witness complies.)
10:18:18
19 | A. So--
10:21:29
19 |\n| 20
Q. Correction. Sorry.
10: 18:24 | Q. Of course.
20
10:21:29 |\n| 21
Exhibit 2.
10:18:27 | A. -- that doesn't mean I don't have anything
21
10:21:29 |\n| 22
A. (Witness complies.)
10:18:28 | 22 for now --
10:21:31 |\n| Q. Page forty-seven.
10:18:35
23 | Q. Of course.
23
10:21:32 |\n| 24
A. (Witness complies.)
10:18:39 | 24
A. -- to testify in this bankruptcy, you know,
10:21:32 |\n| 25
Q. Actually, you might need to look a bit
10: 18:51 | 25 deposition.
10:21:35 |\n| Page 46 | Page 48 |\n| | |\n| I earlier on to forty-six.
10:18:55 | Q. Yeah. Iunderstandthat--thatthreeyears 10:21:35
I |\n| 2
Tell me when you are there.
10: 18:59 | 2 have passed. My question isn't about today.
10:21:38 |\n| A. I am on page forty-six.
10:19:01
3 | 3
My question is about the day when you were
10:21 :43 |\n| Q. Okay. At the bottom of page forty-six there 10:19:03
4 | 4 appointed to be president, secretary, treasurer, and
10:21:47 |\n| 5 is an answer that begins -- and it was in response to 10: 19:07 | 5 director of Golden Spring (New York). I'm asking
10:21:53 |\n| 6 a question about some exhibit you were being shown.
10: 19: 11 | 6 about that day.
10:21:56 |\n| 7 In the course of your answer, which goes on to page
10:19: 15 | And my question is as of that day, did you
7
10:21:59 |\n| 8 forty-seven, you say, among other things:
10: 19: 19 | 8 have any financial professional knowledge?
10:22:03 |\n| \"ANSWER: I am administrator to
10:19:22
9 | A. What kind of financial professional
10:22:08
9 |\n| Golden Spring. This is not my choice because 10: 19:24
10 | 10 knowledge you are looking for back to three years
10:22:13 |\n| II
Chinese Communist party, they kidnap almost
10: 19:27 | 11 ago, sir?
10:22:15 |\n| all my colleague, between me and the company; 10: 19:32
12 | 12
Q. They were your words, Ms. Wang. You said,
10:22: 16 |\n| so my background, I do not have financial
10:19:35
13 | 13 I do not have financial professional knowledge.
10:22:21 |\n| 14
professional knowledge. I do not have
10:19:38 | 14 I don't know what you meant. That would be a good
10:22:26 |\n| American real estate professional knowledge.\" I 0: 19:41
15 | 15 question, but it is what you said; so that is why
10:22:28 |\n| And your answer goes on.
10: 19:44
16 | 16 I used those words in asking you. It is a simple
10:22:33 |\n| 17
But I have just read the two sentences that 10: 19:47 | 17 question.
10:22:36 |\n| 18 Iaminterestedinformyquestionbecausemy
10:19:49 | 18
All I'm asking is at the time you assumed
10:22:38 |\n| 19 question to you was when you assumed the roles of
10:19:52 | 19 all of those titles at Golden Spring (New York), did
10:22:41 |\n| 20 president, secretary, treasurer, and director of
10: 19:55 | 20 you have any financial professional knowledge? Yes
10:22:44 |\n| 21 GoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited,didyouhaveany | 10:20:00 21 orno?
10:22:49 |\n| 22 financial professional knowledge?
10:20:04 | A. When I say I didn't-- when I said I don't
10:22:54
22 |\n| What is the answer?
10:20:10
23 | 23 have, as I repeat again, that is our culture -- our
10:22:58 |\n| 24
A. These deposition happened in which year,
10:20:11 | 24 culture, Chinese culture. I was humble to say
10:23:05 |\n| 25 sir? 2018 or '19?
10:20:17
Page 47 | 25 I don't have professional knowledge.
10:23:09
Page 49 |\n\n13 (Pages 46 - 49)\n\n| | Q. I understand.
10:23:11 | 1 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family?
10:25:46 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A. English is not my mother language. I do not I 0: 23: 12 | 2
MR. ROSEN: Objection. Calls for a legal
10:25:51 |\n| | 3 mean that I know nothing about financial, if that is
10:23: 15 | 3 conclusion.
10:25:52 |\n| | 4 the answer you are looking for, sir.
10:23:20 | You can answer that.
10:25:53
4 |\n| 5 | Q. All I'm looking for is the truth, first of
10:23:22 | 5
THE WITNESS: I need interpreter help me.
10:25:56 |\n| | 6 all.
10:23:25 | 6 I don't understand your question, sir.
10:25:59 |\n| 7 | Second, I am not asking you to be humble or
10:23:26 | 7
MR. HARBACH: Okay. But before we -- before 10:26:01 |\n| | 8 proud. I'm just asking you to be honest.
10:23:31 | 8 we go there -- actually, let -- let's -- Sunny, if
10:26:03 |\n| 9 | A. I am.
10:23:34 | 9 you don't mind, I will ask the question again. And
10:26:09 |\n| 10 | Q. So similarly, I mean, you were under oath
10:23:34 | 10 I'm -- I'm sorry to refer to you by your first name.
10:26: 12 |\n| | 11 when you testified in court, and I think the
10:23:38 | 11 That is unprofessional. Sorry. Ms. Johnston.
10:26:15 |\n| | 12 expectation would have been that you be honest then
10:23:40 | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:26:15 |\n| | 13 as well.
10:23:43 | Q. Ms. Wang, the question is in your capacity
10:26:20
13 |\n| 14 | A. I was.
10:23:44 | 14 as president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,
10:26:23 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay. So I wasn't there that day. All
10:23:45 | 15 isn't it true that you serve as an administrator for
10:26:30 |\n| | 16 I have is the transcript. And I'm just being -- I'm
10:23:48 | 16 the interests of Mr. Kwok-- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his
10:26:35 |\n| | 17 being honest with you. That is the reason for my
10:23:52 | 17 family?
10:26:40 |\n| | 18 question is because I saw that you said that you
10:23:54 | 18
MR. ROSEN: I'll repeat the objection.
10:26:43 |\n| | 19 don't have any financial professional knowledge.
10:23:58 | 19
You can answer the question.
10:26:46 |\n| 20 | So I suppose the question is if you were
10:24:01 | 20
MR. HARBACH: (Interprets question.)
10:27:15 |\n| | 21 just being humble back in 2019, do you mean to say
10:24:05 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: The check
10:27:15
21 |\n| | 22 that you, in fact, did have financial professional
10:24: 10 | 22 interpreter heard Mr. Kwok and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and
10:27:11 |\n| | 23 knowledge when you were appointed to all of those
10:24:14 | 23 his family.
10:27:20 |\n| | 24 positions at Golden Spring? Is that what you were
10:24:16 | 24
MR. HARBACH: That is correct.
10:27:21 |\n| | 25 trying to say?
10:24:20 | |\n| | Page 50 | 25
That was the question.
10:27:22
Page 52 |\n| | | |\n| | A. I am not trying to say anything. My
10:24:20 | 1
THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes.
10:27:24 |\n| | 2 testimony-- back to 2019, that was my testimony, and 10:24:23 | 2
But not Wengui Guo; right?
10:27:25 |\n| | 3 that -- I stay with that. That is a -- true and
10:24:27 | 3
MR. HARBACH: That --
10:27:29 |\n| | 4 accurate information, sir. And regarding right now
10:24:31 | 4
THE INTERPRETER: That is his Mandarin name, 10:27:29 |\n| | 5 what are you looking for after three years, I do not 10:24:34 | 5 Ho Wan Kwok. The Mandarin is Wengui Guo.
10:27:36 |\n| | | |\n| | 6 understand, and I will do my best to help you.
10:24:38 | 6
THE CHECK INTERPRETER: But, I mean, the
10:27:42 |\n| 7 | Q. Okay. Same question about the next sentence 10:24:40 | 7 counsel said Ho Wan Kwok.
10:27:43 |\n| | 8 on the transcript, which says:
10:24:44 | 8
MR. HARBACH: Yes.
10:27:45 |\n| 9 | \"I do not have American real estate
10:24:46 | 9
The reason that counsel said Ho Wan Kwok was 10:27:45 |\n| 10 | professional knowledge.\"
10:24:49 | 10 because the witness said that is how she knows the
10:27:48 |\n| 11 | Was that true when you said those words in
10:24:50 | 11 debtor. I asked her earlier whether she knew the
10:27:51 |\n| | 12 2019?
10:24:53 | 12 name Wengui Guo, and she said she knows him as
10:27:56 |\n| 13 | A. It is correct. I am not real -- realtor.
10:24:55 | 13 Ho Wan Kwok; so that is why I used that name.
10:28:01 |\n| | 14 I am not a licensed realtor; right? That was
10:25:00 | 14
THE INTERPRETER: Yes.
10:28:03 |\n| | 15 correct.
10:25:03 | MR. HARBACH: But we can clear this -- we
10:28:05
15 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. So it is correct that at least as of 10:25:06 | 16 can clear this up now, Ms. Wilkinson.
10:28:06 |\n| | 17 May of2019 you did not have American real estate
10:25:09 | 17
THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Okay.
10:28:08 |\n| | 18 professional knowledge --
10:25: 14 | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:28:08 |\n| 19 | A. Correct.
10:25:15 | Q. Ms. Wang,whatnamewouldyouprefertouse
19
10:28:08 |\n| 20 | Q. -- correct?
10:25: 16 | 20 going forward to refer to Mr. Qiang Guo's father?
10:28: 12 |\n| | | |\n| 21 | A. I don't have a license at all by then.
10:25: 16 | A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
10:28:18
21 |\n| 22 | Q. Next question.
10:25: 19 | 22
Q. Very good.
10:28:19 |\n| 23 | Is it true that in your capacity as
10:25 :29 | 23
A. That is the debtor; right? That is the
10:28:20 |\n| | 24 president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited you
10:25:36
25 serve as an administrator for the interests of
10:25:42 | 24 debtor's name.
10:28:21
25
Am I right.
10:28:23 |\n\n14 (Pages 50 - 53)\n\nQ. You are right. That is correct. 10:28:24 2 A. Let's go with it, yeah. Uh-huh. 10:28:25 3 Q. So would you like Ms. Johnston to repeat the 10:28:27 4 question in Chinese for you, ma'am? 10:28:30 5 6 A. Yes, please. Q. Okay. 10:28:32 10:28:34 7 THE INTERPRETER: Mr. Harbach, can you just 10:28:37 8 repeat the question one more time, please. 10:28:39 9 MR. HARBACH: Sure. No problem. 10:28:42 10 THE INTERPRETER: Just so you know, the 10:28:46 11 interpreter does not speak Cantonese; so I will just 10:28:48 12 re- -- I will just say the name the way you pronounce 10:28:53 13 it instead of saying the Mandarin name. 14 MR. HARBACH: Okay. That -- that's fine. 15 And, obviously, I speak neither; so I will rely on 10:28:54 10:28:57 10:28:59 16 you all. 10:29:02 17 BY MR. HARBACH: 18 Q. So here is the question. 19 In your capacity as president of 10:29:03 10:29:03 10:29:05 20 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, isn't it true that 10:29:07 21 you serve as an administrator for the interests of 10:29: 12 22 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family? 10:29: 18 MR. ROSEN: Objection. You may answer. 10:29:23 10:29:25 23 24 25 THE WITNESS: (Through Interpreter) Well, 10:29:59 Page 54 1 first of all, I don't know what you meant by the word 10:30:07 2 administrator. 10:30:10 3 And, second, I worked for Mr. Qiang Guo. 10:30: 11 4 MR. HARBACH: Is that the end of the answer, 10:30:22 5 Ms. Johnston? 10:30:23 6 THE INTERPRETER: Yes, it was. 10:30:25 7 MR. HARBACH: Okay. Thank you. 8 BY MR. HARBACH: 9 10 Q. Let's take a look now at Exhibit 4. (Deposition Exhibit Number 4 10:30:27 10:30:28 10:30:28 10:30:31 11 was marked for identification.) 12 THE WITNESS: (Witness complies.) 13 BY MR. HARBACH: 10:30:35 10:30:35 10:30:57 14 Q. Okay. I have got it, Ms. Wang. I hope you 10:30:57 15 do too. 10:31:00 16 A. (InEnglish) Yes. 10:31:01 17 18 19 20 I am here. Q. Very good. Open up Exhibit 4, please. A. Yes. 10:31:03 10:31:04 10:31:05 10:31:07 21 Q. And the first thing I want to do is go to 10:31:07 22 the very last page. 10:31: 10 23 A. (Witness complies.) 10:31: 12 24 Q. Areyouthere? 10:31:14 25 A. Yes. 10:31:15 Page 55 Q. Is that your signature on the top right of 10:31: 15 2 Exhibit 4? 3 A. Sorry, sir. 4 You mean Exhibit 4; right? 10:31:19 10:31:25 10:31:26 5 6 7 8 Q. Yes, sir -- or excuse me. Yes, ma'am. A. Okay. I opened the wrong one. 10:31 :28 10:31:33 Q. Okay. A. So let me go back. 10:31:35 10:31 :35 9 Exhibit 4, you mean the director and officer 10:31:37 10 register? 11 12 Q. No. No. No. A. Okay. That's -- 10:31:40 10:31:41 10:31:44 13 Q. This is the one that says exhibit, and then 10:31:44 14 it has the number next to it, four. A. Okay. 10:31:47 15 10:31:50 16 Q. So when you open that up, the first page 10:31:51 17 says affidavit of Yan Ping Wang. 10 :31: 54 18 Let me know if you have the right document. 10:31:58 19 20 A. Yes. Q. Good. 10:32:01 10:32:01 21 Now go to the last page of it, please. That 10:32:02 22 is page three. 10:32:05 23 A. (Witness complies.) 10:32:06 24 Yes. 10:32:06 25 Q. My question to you is is that signature on 10:32:07 Page 56 1 the top right-hand corner of page three of Exhibit 4 10:32:12 2 yours? 10:32: 16 3 A. Yes. 10:32:17 4 Q. Okay. Nowlet'sgobacktopageone. 10:32:18 5 A. (Witness complies.) 10:32:21 6 Q. And you can see that this is an affidavit 10:32:21 7 that you signed and that was filed in the 10:32:26 8 Supreme Court of the State of New York on May 16th of 10:32:28 9 2018. 10 Do you see that? A. Yes. 10:32:32 10:32:34 11 10:32:35 12 Q. Okay. Now, I also note that on page 10:32:40 10:32:43 10:32:47 13 three -- sorry to keep jerking you around. 14 Could you please go to page three. A. The last page; right? Q. Yes, ma'am. A. (Witness complies.) Yes. I am here. 10:32:50 10:32:54 10:32:55 10:32:55 10:32:56 15 16 17 18 19 20 Q. You will see above the notary public's 21 signature that it indicates that it was sworn on 10:32:56 10:32:59 22 May 15th of 2018. 10:33:02 23 Do you see that there? 10:33:04 24 A. Yes. 10:33:05 25 Q. Okay. Now go back to page one for me. 10:33:08 Page 57\n\n15 (Pages 54 - 57)\n\n| 1
A. (Witness complies.)
10:33:11 | 1 information as best of my capacity and as best of my
10: 36: 11 |\n|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
Q. Tell me when you are there.
10:33: 14 | 2 knowledge --
10:36: 15 |\n| 3
A. Yes.
10:33:17 | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:36: 16 |\n| Q. The very first sentence of your dep- --
10:33: 18
4 | Q. Okay.
10:36:16
4 |\n| 5 excuse me. Of this affidavit says:
10:33:23 | A. -- is what I can say.
10:36: 16
5 |\n| \"I am the president of Golden Spring
10:33:26
6 | Q. Okay.
10:36:18
6 |\n| (New York) Limited, and in that capacity
10:33:28
7 | A. I don't know what you are looking for.
10:36:18
7 |\n| serve as an administrator for the interests
10:33:32
8 | 8 I mean, if you are looking for words in the
10:36:20 |\n| of the defendant sued herein as Kwok Ho
10:33:35
9 | 9 dictionary, I don't know what you are looking for.
10:36:22 |\n| Wan\"--
10:33:35
10 | Q. I'm asking you if you know what an affidavit 10:36:24
10 |\n| II
And then there follows several akas.
10:33:42 | 10:36:27
11 is. |\n| -- \"and his family,\" period.
12
10:33:46 | 12
A. Affidavit is a legal paperwork.
10:36:28 |\n| Do you see that sentence?
10:33:48
13 | 13
Q. Okay. And do you understand that an
10:36:30 |\n| 14
A. Yes.
10:33:52 | 14 affidavit is a piece of legal paperwork where
10:36:34 |\n| Q. So I'll ask you to tell me what being an
10:33:52
15 | 15 a person provides testimony that is sworn under oath? 10:36:38 |\n| 16 administrator of the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and 10:34:00 | 16
A. Yes.
10:36:46 |\n| 17 his family means, because they are your words.
10:34: 12 | 17
Q. Okay. And you told me a moment ago you --
10:36:47 |\n| 18
A. This is drafted by the attorneys also; so in 10:34:16 | 18 actually, I want to be fair.
10:36:51 |\n| 19 my understanding, an administrator, these words --
10:34:20 | 19
You don't -- you don't know how many
10:36:54 |\n| 20 as, again, I am not native speaker at all -- means
10:34:25 | 20 affidavits you may have done in the past; is that
10:36:56 |\n| 21 that I work for Golden Spring and take instruction
10:34:30 | 21 correct?
10:37:01 |\n| 22 from owner of Golden Spring to work out the
10:34:32 | 22
A. I don't recall. Like, why should I recall
10:37:02 |\n| 23 assignment and task Golden Spring request me to do is 10:34:39 | 23 how many of them? I mean --
10:37:08 |\n| 24 what I mean in here.
10:34:43 | 24
Q. I'm not -- I'm not suggesting --
10:37:10 |\n| 25
Q. How many affidavits do you think you have
10:34:44 | 25
A. I don't work in a law firm; right?
10:37: 12 |\n| Page 58 | Page 60 |\n| | |\n| I signed in your lifetime?
10:34:48 | Q. I'mnot--
10:37:14
I |\n| 2
A. I don't recall.
10:34:50 | A. So why should I recall?
10:37: 14
2 |\n| 3
Q. More than five?
10:34:52 | 3
Q. I'm not suggesting whether you should or you 10:37: 16 |\n| 4
A. I don't recall.
10:34:55 | 4 shouldn't. All I'm asking is whether you know how
10:37:19 |\n| 5
Q. More than twenty-five?
10:34:57 | 5 many affidavits you have prepared in your life.
10:37:23 |\n| 6
A. I don't recall.
10:34:59 | 6
And I understood your answer to be that you
10:37:26 |\n| 7
Q. Maybe more than fifty?
10:35:01 | 7 do not know; is that right?
10:37:29 |\n| | 8
A. Sir, now you are asking in my life. I don't 10:37:31 |\n| 8
A. I don't recall.
10:35:04 | |\n| 9
Q. Do you know what -- what an affidavit is?
10:35:08 | 9 recall. That is my answer.
10:37:36 |\n| 10
A. What do you mean, do I know what affidavit
10:35: 12 | 10
Q. Okay. That is fine. That is all I'm
10:37:38 |\n| II is?
10:35:17 | 11 asking.
10:37:41 |\n| Q. Do you know what an affidavit is? Do you
10:35: 18
12 | You have told me that you understand an
10:37:43
12 |\n| 13 know what the word means?
10:35:20 | 13 affidavit to be a legal document where a person
10:37:46 |\n| 14
A. I don't understand your question.
10:35:23 | 14 provides testimony that is sworn under oath; is that
10:37:51 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, can you please
10:35:30
15 | 15 right?
10:37:55 |\n| 16 translate.
10:35:33 | 16
A. The sentence which you read me through, this 10:37:58 |\n| 17
Do you know what an affidavit is?
10:35:34 | 17 was I signed back to 2018. And then now as
10:38:01 |\n| 18
THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)
10:35:47 | 18 April 2020 [sic] of course I couldn't remember that,
10:38:08 |\n| THE WITNESS: So I don't understand your
10:35:47
19 | 19 like, four years ago almost.
10:38:15 |\n| 20 question. All I have done in that I work for
10:35:58 | 20
Q. But--
10:38:17 |\n| 21 GoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited. Iamnotnative
10:36:01 | A. But I do know that that is a legal
10:38:17
21 |\n| 22 speaker. I am definitely not legal person either;
10:36:01 | 22 paperwork. I gave all my truthful and honest
10:38: 19 |\n| 23 right?
10:36:01 | 23 information in that paperwork. This I am testifying
10:38:22 |\n| 24
So like, I just to be here, and then what
10:36:06
25 being before there to tell the legal all the truthful 10:36:07 | 24 right now.
10:38:25
25
Q. Okay. And so when you signed this affidavit 10:38:26 |\n\n16 (Pages 58 - 61)\n\n| | 1 in May of 2018, it was truthful when you signed it;
10:38:29 | 1 is not my native language, yes. I signed affidavit
10:41:45 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 is that correct?
10:38:39 | 2 back to 2018. That is a truthful information as best 10:41:50 |\n| 3 | A. When I signed and I gave all my truthful
10:38:41 | 3 ofmy knowledge. By then, when I signed my name in
10:41:53 |\n| | 4 information.
10:38:47 | 4 there, yes.
10:41:57 |\n| 5 | Q. Was this --this affidavit that is Exhibit 4 10:38:49 | I'm testifying right now to explain and let
10:41:58
5 |\n| | 6 that we're looking at, was it true when you signed it 10:38:53 | 6 you know all of those yes and no, that is my truthful 10:42:02 |\n| | 7 and swore to it?
10:38:58 | 7 testimony by now, yes. This is all my yes and no
10:42:06 |\n| 8 | A. I signed affidavit back to 2018 of this
10:39:03 | 8 answer, sir.
10:42: 10 |\n| | 9 one. That is my best and truthful knowledge and
10:39:07 | Q. At the time that you signed Exhibit 4, did
10:42:11
9 |\n| | 10 information I gave.
10:39: 12 | 10 you understand it?
10:42:14 |\n| 11 | Q. Is that a \"yes\"?
10:39:14 | A. Understand what?
10:42:18
11 |\n| 12 | A. I answered your question, sir, already.
10:39: 17 | 12
Q. Did you understand what you were signing?
10:42: 19 |\n| 13 | Q. Well, I'm going to ask it one more time.
10:39:20 | 13
A. The affidavit.
10:42:22 |\n| | 14 I think you may have, but I want to ask it one more
10:39:24 | 14
Q. Were you able to read it and understand what 10:42:24 |\n| | 15 time just to make sure we are clear.
10:39:28 | 15 it said?
10:42:27 |\n| 16 | Was this affidavit-- that is, Exhibit 4 --
10:39:30 | 16
A. I don't understand your question. What --
10:42:31 |\n| | 17 true at the time that you signed it?
10:39:32 | 17 you are asking my recollection back to 2018?
10:42:35 |\n| 18 | A. What do you mean, at the time when I signed
10:39:37 | Q. You--
10:42:38
18 |\n| | 19 it? I mean, I signed it as true back in 2018.
10:39:46 | A. I don't recall.
10:42:38
19 |\n| 20 | Q. Right
10:39:51 | 20
Q. You don't recall whether when you signed
10:42:38 |\n| 21 | And-- and here's the --here's the problem. 10:39:51 | 21 this affidavit you understood what it said?
10:42:41 |\n| | 22 Just a few minutes ago, when I asked you about the
10:39:55 | 22
A. It is four years ago, sir. I don't recall
10:42:46 |\n| | 23 first sentence of Exhibit 4, you said something about 10:39:59 | 23 the details by then.
10:42:49 |\n| | 24 this document being prepared by lawyers and that
10:40:02 | Q. Do you make a habit of signing affidavits
24
10:42:51 |\n| | 25 English isn't your first language and that -- and so
10:40:06 | 25 under oath when you don't understand what they say --
10:42:55 |\n| | Page 62 | Page 64 |\n| | | |\n| | I that is why I'm asking these questions so that I can
10:40: 12 | I with- -- withdrawn.
10:42:58 |\n| | 2 understand whether what is written on the page here
10 :40: 15 | 2
MR. HARBACH: Scott, you don't have to
10:43:01 |\n| | 3 is your truthful testimony or not.
10:40: 19 | 3 object.
10:43:02 |\n| 4 | A. So
10:40:27 | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:
10:43:03 |\n| 5 | Q. All I can do is ask you -- let me finish my
10:40:29 | Q. Do you recall whether this affidavit was
10:43:04
5 |\n| | 6 question.
10:40:33 | 6 translated for you?
10:43:06 |\n| 7 | I don't know what is in your brain. All
10:40:33 | A. I don't recall. Again, like, it is three or 10:43:07
7 |\n| | 8 I can do is ask questions. You have told me that you 10:40:36 | 8 four years ago. I don't recall.
10:43:11 |\n| | 9 signed this document. You have told me that you
10:40:39 | 9
Q. When was the last affidavit that you
10:43: 16 |\n| | 10 understand it is an affidavit. You have told me what 10:40:41 | 10 executed, approximately?
10:43:26 |\n| | 11 you understand an affidavit to be.
10:40:45 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
10:43:28
11 |\n| 12 | And so now all I'm asking you is whether
10:40:50 | 12
We -- we have really got to move on, David.
10:43:30 |\n| | 13 this particular affidavit was true when you signed
10:40:53 | 13 This is --
10:43:34 |\n| | 14 it. That is a yes, no, I don't know, or I don't
10:40:59 | 14
MR. HARBACH: Listen, now, Scott. This is
10:43:35 |\n| | 15 remember question.
10:41:06 | 15 nothing personal, obviously. I would love nothing
10:43:38 |\n| 16 | A. This is several questions, sir. I cannot
10:41: 11 | 16 more than to move on, but I'm just trying to get the
10:43:40 |\n| | 17 only answer one yes or one no.
10:41: 14 | 17 witness to adopt what she swore to three years ago.
I 0:43 :44 |\n| 18 | Q. Sure you can. Itisasinglequestion. The 10:41:17 | MR.ROSEN: Allright. Howisthatrelevant 10:43:51
18 |\n| | 19 answer can be either yes, it could beno, it could be 10:41:21 | 19 to the 30(6)(6) deposition topics today?
10:43:53 |\n| | 20 I don't know, or it could be I don't remember.
10:41:25 | 20
MR. HARBACH: Oh, because it is squarely
10:43:56 |\n| 21 | A. The affidavit --
10:41 :32 | 21 within what her job is as president of Golden Spring
10:43:58 |\n| 22 | Q. Do you need me to ask the question one more
10:41 :33 | 22 (New York). That is 100 percent within the scope of 10:44:02 |\n| | 23 time?
10:41:36 | 23 what we're talking about here. She has told us about 10:44:05 |\n| 24 | A. The affidavit, which I signed back to 2018,
I 0:41 :36 | 24 all the titles that she has, and I'm exploring what
10:44:09 |\n\n17 (Pages 62 - 65)\n\n| | 1 her job is what we have read several times, and now
10:44: 16 | 1 (New York), you served as an administrator for the
11 :01 :57 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 she doesn't want to answer that. She doesn't want to 10:44:20 | 2 interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and his family?
11:02:01 |\n| | 3 own that; so I'm going to stop arguing, but it is
10:44:23 | 3
A. Yes.
11:02:07 |\n| | 4 plainly relevant. Plainly relevant.
10:44:27 | As the language read in my affidavit, yes.
11:02:13
4 |\n| 5 | You can instruct her not to answer. You can 10:44:30 | Q. Do you recall what you meant by an
11:02:16
5 |\n| | 6 instruct her not to answer any question that mentions 10:44:33 | 6 administrator for the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan
11:02:45 |\n| | 7 Ho Wan Kwok if you want. But I'm going to stay right 10:44:36 | 7 and his family?
11 :02:49 |\n| | 8 here until I understand what was in this witness'
10:44:39 | 8
A. The language in this affidavit was drafted
11 :02:51 |\n| | 9 head when she signed this affidavit.
10:44:42 | 9 by attorney, and, in my understanding,
11 :02:57 |\n| 10 | MR. ROSEN: Well, I think you have -- you
10:44:44 | 10 Golden Spring -- as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction,
11:03:03 |\n| | 11 have pretty much established on the record that what
10:44:46 | 11 Golden Spring, like, pay Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, like, his
11:03:10 |\n| | 12 you are going for has nothing to do with this DIP
10:44:50 | 12 lifestyle and then et cetera; so that was my
11 :03: 17 |\n| | 13 loan.
10:44:52 | 13 understanding.
11:03 :21 |\n| 14 | So I am going to instruct the witness not to 10:44:52 | Q. That was your understanding of your role?
14
11:03:22 |\n| | 15 answer this question.
10:44:55 | 15 Because that was what my question was about.
11:03:27 |\n| 16 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. I think we should take
10:44:56 | A. My role as president of Golden Spring or
16
11:03:31 |\n| | 17 a little break because, among other things, I need to 10:44:59 | 17 administrator?
11 :03 :35 |\n| | 18 go to the restroom.
10:45:01 | 18
Q. Well, you have stated that as president, you 11:03:36 |\n| 19 | So can we please, Mr. Videographer, take ten 10:45:03 | 19 served as an administrator of Mr. Kwok
11:03:42 |\n| | 20 minutes.
10:45:06 | 20 Ho Wan's interests.
11:03:46 |\n| 21 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the
10:45:06 21 | And so I'm asking about whether what you
11:03:50 |\n| | 22 record.
10:45:08 | 22 just described was your role in May of 2018.
11:03:54 |\n| 23 | The time is 10:45.
10:45:08 | 23
A. I am the president of Golden Spring. I took 11 :04:0 I |\n| 24 | (Short recess taken.)
10:45:10 | 24 instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo and served as an
11:04:05 |\n| 25 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
11 :00:21
Page 66 | 25 administrator -- administrator for his father.
11:04:09
Page 68 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | I record.
11 :00:23 | 1
Q. And was that true from the moment you began
11 :04: 13 |\n| 2 | The time is 11 :00 o'clock.
11:00:23 | 2 working at Golden Spring?
11 :04: 17 |\n| | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:00:31 | 3
A. Oh, sir, the moment -- again, you are asking 11:04:21 |\n| 4 | Q. Ms. Wang, before the break I was asking you
11 :00:35 | 4 the time; right?
11:04:25 |\n| | 5 about Exhibit 4, which is an affidavit that you
11:00:37 | 5
Q. Well, I'm asking whether what you just
11:04:27 |\n| | 6 signed in May of 2018.
11:00:43 | 6 described as your duties as an administrator, was
11:04:31 |\n| 7 | MR. HARBACH: Scott, I confess, I do not
11:00:48 | 7 that true from the beginning, from when you first
11:04:38 |\n| | 8 recall whether where we left off was with your
11:00:51 | 8 started working at Golden Spring (New York)?
11:04:40 |\n| | 9 instructing the witness not to answer my question--
11:00:54 | 9
A. When I started working for Golden Spring
11 :04:42 |\n| | 10 any more questions about this. And let me -- and let 11:01:00 | 10 (New York), I did take instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo 11:04:52 |\n| | 11 me just -- let me say before you answer that if you
11:01:04 | 11 to -- to serve, as I said, as administrator for his
11:04:54 |\n| | 12 let me answer one or two -- ask one or two more, I'll 11:01:07 | 12 father.
11:05:00 |\n| | 13 move on.
11:01:13 | Q. And so that would have been in the spring of 11 :05 :00
13 |\n| 14 | MR. ROSEN: I appreciate that, and yeah.
11:01:14 | 14 2018, when you started working for Golden Spring
11:05:04 |\n| | 15 Please -- I'll instruct the witness at this time to
11 :01:18 | 15 (New York); is that right?
11:05:07 |\n| | 16 answer the question.
11:01:22 | 16
A. Correct, sir.
11 :05: 10 |\n| 17 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Thank you.
11:01:24 | 17
Q. And how frequently did you communicate with
11:05:11 |\n| | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:01:25 | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo during that time, say the spring of
11:05:16 |\n| 19 | Q. So Ms. Wang, do you still have Exhibit 4 in
11:01:25 | 19 2018?
11:05:22 |\n| | 20 front of you?
11:01:30 | A. I don't recall, but I do believe we -- we
20
11:05:24 |\n| 21 | A. Exhibit4? Yes, sir. Yes.
11:01:32 | 21 talk as needed.
11:05:29 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. So again, reminding you that this
11:01:38 | 22
Q. Okay. Once a day?
11:05:30 |\n| | 23 affidavit was signed in May 2018.
11:01:41 | 23
A. I don't recall.
11:05:35 |\n| 24 | My question for you is is it true that in
11:01:45 | 24
Q. Okay. Do you recall whether you talked to
11:05:36 |\n| | 25 May of 2018, as president of Golden Spring
11:01:51
Page 67 | 25 him once a week?
11:05:39
Page 69 |\n\n18 (Pages 66 - 69)\n\n| 1 | A. I don't recall. As I said, we just talk as
11:05 :43 | | 1 Golden Spring (New York) in New York City in 2018,
11:09: 15 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 needed. If, you know, we need to talk, we just talk. 11 :05 :47 | | 2 did you reside in the same location as
11:09:21 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay.
11:05:51 | | 3 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:09:24 |\n| 4 | A. I don't, like, calculate, yeah.
11:05:52 | 4 | A. I lived in New York.
11:09:33 |\n| 5 | Q. No. I understand.
11:05:54 | 5 | Q. Did you reside -- again, I'm not talking
11:09:34 |\n| 6 | And I don't mean to be asking for a precise
11 :05:56 | | 6 aboutnow.
11:09:41 |\n| | 7 calculation. I'm just trying to get a sense of how
11 :05:58 | 7 | I'm talking about in 2018, when you started
11 :09:41 |\n| | 8 often you talked to him.
11:06:02 | | 8 working at Golden Spring (New York), did you reside
11:09:46 |\n| 9 | When you talked to him, meaning
11:06:03 | | 9 in the same dwelling as Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:09:51 |\n| | 10 Mr. Qiang Guo, did you speak by phone? in person?
11:06:06 | 10 | A. Sir, what do you mean by dwelling? Do you
11:10:00 |\n| | 11 a mix?
11:06:12 | | 11 mean--
11: 10:03 |\n| 12 | A. Both.
11:06:15 | 12 | Q. A house.
11:10:03 |\n| 13 | Q. Okay. Hang on one second, please. Sorry
11:06:22 | 13 | A. Is it --
11:10:04 |\n| | 14 for the holdup.
11:06:58 | 14 | Q. Is it a house? an apartment? It doesn't
11:10:05 |\n| 15 | How often did you communicate with
11:07:01 | | 15 matter.
11:10:09 |\n| | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok in the spring of2018 to fulfill your 11:07:07 | 16 | Did you live in the same home as
11: 10:09 |\n| | 17 role, as you have described it?
11:07:13 | | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:10:12 |\n| 18 | A. I don't recall.
11:07:17 | 18 | A. No.
11:10:12 |\n| 19 | Q. Did you ever communicate with him?
11:07: 18 | 19 | Q. Have you ever been to the -- withdrawn.
11:10:19 |\n| 20 | A. Yes.
11:07:23 | 20 | Have you ever lived in the eighteenth floor
11: 10:22 |\n| 21 | We did communicate.
11:07:26 | | 21 apartment of the Sherry-Netherland?
11:10:29 |\n| 22 | Q. And was that in person?
11:07:27 | 22 | A. I visited there, sir.
11:10:33 |\n| 23 | A. Yes.
11 :07:31 | 23 | Q. Fair enough.
11: 10:36 |\n| 24 | In person.
11 :07:33 | 24 | 11: I 0:36
I'm asking whether you have ever resided |\n| 25 | Q. Okay. And how frequently?
11 :07:33 | | 25 there.
11:10:40 |\n| | Page 70 | | Page 72 |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| I | A. I don't recall.
11:07:37 | | A. What do you mean, reside? As in, like,
11: 10:40 |\n| 2 | Q. Okay. More than one a week?
11:07:40 | | 2 my -- my home? No.
11:10:45 |\n| 3 | A. Sir, you are asking back to 2018, when
11:07:45 | 3 | Q. Okay. Have you ever stayed there for--
11:10:47 |\n| | 4 I start work for Golden Spring?
11:07:51 | 4 | MR. HARBACH: And, Scott, this is my last
11:10:52 |\n| 5 | lam.
Q. Yes. Yes, ma'am.
11:07:54 | | 5 one.
11:10:54 |\n| 6 | A. Oh, I don't recall.
11:07:57 | | 6 BY MR. HARBACH:
11: 10:55 |\n| 7 | Q. Okay. Let's see.
11:07:58 | 7 | Q. Haveyoueverstayedthereformorethan
11:10:55 |\n| 8 | Oh, thank you.
MR. HARBACH:
11:08:26 | | 8 a couple of weeks?
11: 10:58 |\n| | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:08:26 | 9 | A. I don't recall.
11: 10:59 |\n| 10 | Q. My colleague reminds me, I meant to ask this 11:08:28 | 10 | Q. Okay. Can we turn now to -- back to
11: 11 :00 |\n| | 11 question.
11:08:32 | | 11 Exhibit I.
11:11:20 |\n| 12 | When you started working at Golden Spring
11:08:32 | 12 | A. (Witness complies.)
11:11:22 |\n| | 13 (New York) in New York City, where did you reside?
11:08:37 | 13 | Q. Tell me when you have got it up, Ms. Wang.
11 :11 :28 |\n| | 14 I don't mean the --the exact address, but where did
11:08:41 | 14 | A. Yes, I am.
11:11:35 |\n| | 15 you reside?
11 :08:45 | 15 | Q. Okay. The cover page, just to help you
11: 11 :36 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. There are security
11:08:47 | | 16 orient yourself, is dated October 11th, 2018, which
11:11:44 |\n| | 17 reasons that Ms. Wang does not want to give
11:08:51 | | 17 was the date of this deposition.
11:11:49 |\n| | 18 a residence address.
11:08:54 | 18 | Okay?
11:11:52 |\n| 19 | Are you talking about a city or -- something 11:08:57 | 19 | A. Yes.
11:11:54 |\n| | 20 as general as a city or are you talking address?
11:09:00 | 20 | Q. All right. And so that is approximately --
11: 11 :54 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH: I'll -- I'll try and ask the
11:09:05 | | 21 I don't know -- six months after you started working
11:12:00 |\n| | 22 question in a way that avoids those concerns, Scott.
11 :09:07 | | 22 at Golden Spring (New York)?
11: 12:03 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN: Thank you.
11:09:11 | 23 | A. And -- yes. Kind of
11:12:11 |\n| 25 | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:09:12
Q. Ms. Wang, when you started working at
11:09:12 | 24 | Q. You said you started working in the spring
11:12:13
25 of2018; so approximately six months.
11:12:16 |\n\n19 (Pages 70 - 73)\n\n| 1 | Is that fair?
11:12:19 | | 1 was accurate.
11:14:41 |\n|--------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A. Yes.
11: 12:20 | 2 | Q. Okay.
11:14:42 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. So let's go to page sixty.
11:12:21 | 3 | A. The testimony right now, after I was
11:14:43 |\n| 4 | A. (Witness complies.)
11: 12:32 | | 11:14:45
4 corrected, is accurate also, sir. |\n| 5 | Q. And, again, looking at the little pages.
11: 12:33 | 5 | Q. I see.
11:14:48 |\n| | 6 Tell me when you are there.
11: 12:45 | 6 | And so the -- the correction concerned his
11: 14:49 |\n| 7 | A. Yes.
11: 12:50 | | 7 name; right?
11:14:51 |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. The very top of page sixty there is
11: 12:50 | 8 | A. Yes.
11:14:52 |\n| | 9 a -- the tail end of a question and then a question
11: 12:54 | 9 | Mr. Qiang Guo's name.
11: 14:53 |\n| | 10 that begins on line two:
11: 12:57 | 10 | Q. Okay.
11:14:55 |\n| II | \"QUESTION: Do you know Mileson Kwok?\"
11 :13:00 | 11 | A. That is reason why I am insisting calling
11:14:56 |\n| 12 | Your answer is:
11:13:04 | | 12 him Mr. Qiang Guo; right?
11:15:00 |\n| 13 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:13:05 | 13 | So that is the accurate -- you know, his
11:15:00 |\n| 14 | The question:
11:13:06 | | 14 official name.
11: 15:04 |\n| 15 | \"QUESTION: Is that Mr. Kwok's son?
11: 13:06 | 15 | Q. Understood.
11:15:04 |\n| 16 | \"ANSWER: Yes.
11:13:09 | 16 | A. That works better for me, yeah.
11: 15:05 |\n| 17 | \"QUESTION: Have you ever met him in
11:13:11 | 17 | MR.HARBACH: Andwithapologiestothe
11:15:07 |\n| 18 | person?
11:13:12 | | 18 reporter for interrupting. I'll try to do better.
11: 15: I 0 |\n| 19 | \"ANSWER: Yes.
11:13:13 | | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:15:13 |\n| 20 | \"QUESTION: Does he have any role at
11:13:14 | 20 | Q. Next question on the deposition transcript
11:15:13 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring?
11:13:17 | | 2] IS:
11:15:16 |\n| 22 | \"ANSWER: I don't know.
11:13: 19 | 22 | \"QUESTION: Is that Mr. Kwok's son?
11:15:17 |\n| 23 | \"QUESTION: You never interacted with
11:13:22 | 23 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:15:20 |\n| 24 | him in regard to any Golden Spring business? 11: 13:24 | 24 | So there is no question whether it is
11:15:22 |\n| 25 | \"ANSWER: No.\"
11:13:28
Page 74 | | 25 Mileson Kwok or Qiang Guo.
11: 15:25
Page 76 |\n| | | | |\n| I
2 | Did I read that correctly?
11: 13:36
A. Yes.
11:13:38 | | We are talking about Mr. Kwok Ho Wan's son;
11:15:27
2 correct?
11:15:34 |\n| 3 | Q. Can you explain-- well, first of all, is
11:13:39 | 3 | A. Correct.
11:15:34 |\n| | 4 that true?
11: 13:46 | 4 | Q. And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has one, and only one,
11:15:35 |\n| 5 | A. Well--
11:13:52 | | 5 son; correct?
11:15:40 |\n| 6 | Q. Let's go through them-- let's go through
11:13:53 | 6 | A. Correct.
11:15:42 |\n| | 7 them one by one so we can be crystal clear. First
11: 13:57 | 7 | Q. Okay. Next question:
11:15:43 |\n| | 8 question:
11: 14:01 | 8 | \"QUESTION: Have you ever met him\" --
11:15:47 |\n| 9 | \"QUESTION: Do you know Mileson Kwong?\"
11: 14:0 I | 9 | Meaning who we're calling Qiang Guo.
11:15:51 |\n| 10 | Was that true in October 11th, 2018, you
11:14:09 | 10 | -- ''in person?\"
11:15:54 |\n| | II knew Mileson Kwok? Was that true?
11:14:11 | 11 | 11: 15:56
Your answer was: |\n| 12 | A. I was given a wrong impression back in 2018. 11:14:13 | 12 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:15:58 |\n| | 13 Like, I was thinking, like, Mileson go with Kwok
11:14:17 | 13 | WasthattruethatyouhadmetQiangGuoin 11:16:01 |\n| | 14 also. The reason why --
11:14:22 | | 14 person as of October 11th, 2018?
11:16:05 |\n| 15 | Q. lam--
11:14:22 | 15 | A. Yes.
11:16:07 |\n| 16 | A. --lam--
11:14:24 | 16 | Q. Okay. Next question:
11:16:07 |\n| 17 | Q. -- going to --
11: 14:24 | 17 | \"QUESTION: Does he, Qiang Guo, have any 11:16:17 |\n| 18 | A. -- testifying --
11:14:24 | 18 | role at Golden Spring?\"
11:16: 17 |\n| 19 | Q. -- interrupt.
11: 14:24 | 19 | Your answer was you don't know.
11:16:19 |\n| 20 | A. -- right now --
11: 14:25 | 20 | Now, this is six months after you said you
11: 16:22 |\n| 21 | Q. Yeah.
11:14:25 | | 21 started at Golden Spring. Months after what you
11: 16:25 |\n| 22 | A. -- I was corrected by Mr. Qiang Guo.
11:14:27 | | 22 claim earlier were conversations with Mr. Qiang Guo
11:16:31 |\n| | 23 He purposely corrected me after -- I forget when. He 11: 14:30 | | 23 about your role and duties.
11:16:35 |\n| | 24 corrected me and said that he always go with
11: 14:33
25 Mileson Kwok; so the testimony by then back in 2018
11: 14:37 | 24 | So why, six months after you started at
11: 16:39
25 Golden Spring, did you say that you didn't know
11: 16:42 |\n\n20 (Pages 74 - 77)\n\n| 1 whether he had any role?
11:16:46 | 1 frequently-- and that it was -- I believe you said
11: 19:47 |\n|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
A. That was after --
11: 16:50 | 2 a mix of by phone and in person.
11: 19: 51 |\n| Q. Isn'tthat--isn'tthatalsotruethatyou 11:16:52
3 | 3
Do you -- does that not count as interaction 11: 19:59 |\n| 4 didnotknow?
11:16:55 | 4 in your mind?
11 :20:02 |\n| A. So sir, you finish your question; so can
11:17:02
5 | 5
A. Interact with him in Golden Spring business. 11:20:03 |\n| 6 I start to answer or you still have more, sir? I'll
11: 17:06 | 6 I mean, him and myself, we're friend also along the
11:20:06 |\n| 7 wait until you finish.
11: 17:09 | 7 way for so many years; so when you ask me five
11:20:11 |\n| 8
Q. You -- thank you for waiting.
11: 17: 11 | 8 minutes ago, I mean, we do, like, meet and talk as
11:20:14 |\n| You can answer if you answer my question.
9
11: 17: 12 | 9 needed. But the question back to 2018, it is asking
11: 20: 18 |\n| The question is is it true that as of
10
11: 17: 15 | 10 about interacted with him in regard to any
11 :20:23 |\n| 11 October 11th, 2018, you did not know whether
11: 17: 19 | 11 Golden Spring business, which my testify was true.
11:20:26 |\n| 12 Qiang Guo had any role at Golden Spring? That is the 11: 17:27 | 12 He was in charge of all the Golden Spring business
11 :20:29 |\n| 13 question.
11:17:30 | 13 back to then. And I know I'm part of Golden Spring,
11:20:32 |\n| 14
A. Back to 2018, I don't know by then in my
11:17:33 | 14 but, really, like, he -- he was the person running
11:20:36 |\n| 15 understanding the role means employee or employees;
11:17:38 | 15 the business.
11:20:39 |\n| 16 so by then I did not know whether he was employee or
11:17:43 | 16
Q. Ms. Wang, isn't it true that, in fact, you
11:20:40 |\n| 17 not. But I do know he is the boss. He is the owner. 11: 17:47 | 17 were not interacting with Qiang Guo, certainly not in 11 :20:46 |\n| 18 I do not know whether he is employee or not because
11: 17:51 | 18 2018,aboutGoldenSpringbusiness? Isn'tthattrue? 11:20:51 |\n| 19 he was majorly handling the Golden Spring majority of 11: 17:54 | 19
A. Can you reframe your question again, sir?
11:20:56 |\n| 20 work by then. I only work and cooperate with him as
11: 18:00 | 20
Q. Isn't it true that in 2018 you, in fact,
11 :21:0 I |\n| 21 neededbackin2018.
11:18:05 | 21 were not interacting with Mr. Qiang Guo at all
11:21:05 |\n| 22
Q. In 2018 you didn't say he was the boss? Six 11: 18:07 | 22 related to anything Golden Spring was doing? Isn't
11:21:10 |\n| 23 months after you claimed to have started working with 11: 18: 13 | 23 that the truth?
11: 21: 14 |\n| 24 him you didn't say he was the boss, did you?
11:18:16 | A. I don't recall. It is too long time ago,
24
11:21:15 |\n| 25
A. I was not asked whether he was the boss or
11: 18: 19 | 25 and this deposition was conducted -- I don't believe
11 :21:21 |\n| Page 78 | Page 80 |\n| | |\n| I not.
11:18:24 | I Ihadaninterpreterbythen.
11:21:25 |\n| 2
Q. You were asked whether he had any role?
11:18:24 | Q. Isn't it also true that the boss of
2
11:21:27 |\n| 3
A. Any role, in my understanding back to 2018,
11: 18:27 | 3 Golden Spring (New York), when you started working
11:21:30 |\n| 4 as employee.
11: 18:32 | 4 there, wasn't Qiang Guo; it was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:21:32 |\n| 5
Q. Okay. How about the next question:
11:18:33 | 5 Isn't that true?
11:21:37 |\n| \"QUESTION: You never interacted with
11:18:37
6 | 6
A. Golden Spring (New York)'s boss is always
11:21:38 |\n| him in regards to any Golden Spring
11:18:39
7 | 7 Mr. Qiang Guo.
11:21:43 |\n| business?\"
11:18:43
8 | 8
Q. Isn't it true that you have been a long-term 11:21:44 |\n| 9
That was the question you were asked, and
11: 18 :46 | 9 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:21:53 |\n| 10 the answer you gave was:
11: 18:48 | 10
A. I have been working for Mr. Qiang Guo,
11:22:00 |\n| \"ANSWER: No.\"
11:18:51
11 | 11 himself, and his family.
11 :22:04 |\n| My question for you right now is is it
11: 18:52
12 | Q. Yeah. I'm-- I'm not asking about
12
11:22:06 |\n| 13 true-- is it true that as of October 11th, 2018, you 11:18:55 | 13 Mr. Qiang Guo. I'll ask the question again.
11 :22:08 |\n| 14 had not interacted with Qiang Guo in regard to any
11:19:01 | 14
Isn't it true that you were a long-term
11:22: 13 |\n| 15 Golden Spring business? Is that true or not?
11: 19:08 | 15 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:22: 18 |\n| A. It is a correct answer because back in 2018, 11: 19: 13
16 | A. I don't believe so. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he
16
11:22:23 |\n| 17 Mr. Qiang Guo, he was the major person running
11: 19: 19 | 17 never pay me or ever pays me or pay me at all.
11:22:25 |\n| 18 Golden Spring; so I didn't understand -- again,
11:19:22 | 18
Q. Does he tell you --
11:22:29 |\n| 19 English not my native language -- what is interacted
11: 19:29 | 19
A. So I always work for Mr. Qiang Guo and his
11:22:31 |\n| 20 with. My understanding, by then he was running the
11:19:33 | 20 business.
11:22:35 |\n| 21 company. I just work for him as he needed. That is
11: 19:35 | Q. DoesMr.HoWanKwokevertellyouwhatto
11:22:35
21 |\n| 22 my understanding; so -- which is correct.
11: 19:38 | 22 do?
11:22:37 |\n| Q. Right
11:19:41
23 | A. What do you mean, ever tell me what to -- if 11:22:38
23 |\n| 24
And you told me five minutes ago that you
11:19:41 | 24 they ask me for help, of course I will offer my help
11 :22:42 |\n| 25 had contact with him -- you didn't remember how
11:19:44
Page 79 | 25 to him.
11:22:45
Page 81 |\n\n21 (Pages 78 - 81)\n\n| | Q. Does -- does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever give you
11 :22:46 | Q. Okay. And so there is a long answer on page 11 :24:57 |\n|----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 11 :22:48
2 direction? | 2 forty-eight that goes from line twelve to line
11:25:02 |\n| 3 | A He ask for support and help, which I'm
11 :22:49 | 3 twenty-three. And I'm not going to read the whole
11:25:06 |\n| | 11:22:55
4 always willmg to do that for him. | 4 thing, but I want to direct your attention to the
11:25:10 |\n| 5 | Q. Does he ask -- ever ask you to go get
11:22:57 | 5 second half of that answer. It says:
11 :25: 15 |\n| | 6 coffee?
11:23:00 | \"They are arrested and pnt in jail by
11 :25: 19
6 |\n| 7 | A I don't recall.
11:23:01 | Chinese Communist party. And a lot of his
11:25:22
7 |\n| 8 | What do you mean?
11:23:03 | family member, including his son, his
11:25:26
8 |\n| 9 | Q. You don't --you don't recall whether
11 :23:05 | daughter, niece, nephew, and his
11:25:28
9 |\n| | 10 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to get coffee?
11:23:07 | sister-in-law, brothers, they were all
11:25:32
10 |\n| II | A Sir, I mean, I don't recall. Just, like,
11 :23: 11 | threatened, kidnapped, and put in jail
11 :25:37
11 |\n| | 12 why I should recall someone ask me to get coffee:
11 :23:15 | without any reason until now, including all
11 :25:40
12 |\n| | 13 right?
11 :23:18 | of his, like, long-term employee, just like
11 :25:43
13 |\n| 14 | Q. Well, I don't -- I don't know. Maybe he has 11 :23:19 | me.\"
11:25:47
14 |\n| | 15 asked you to get coffee hundreds of times Maybe he 11.23.21 | So you are talking about Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
11:25:50
15 |\n| | 16 never has. All I can do is ask the question.
11:23:25 | 16 here; correct?
11 :25:56 |\n| 17 | Do you recall --
11.23 .28 | 17
A. Can I read the entire from sentence twelve
11:25:58 |\n| 18 | A I don't recall that
11 :23:28 | 18 until twenty-three?
11:26:04 |\n| 19 | Q. -- if Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to
11 :23:29 | 19
Q. Absolutely. Take your time, read it to
11:26:05 |\n| | | |\n| | 20 go get coffee?
11:23:32 | 20 yourself, and let me know when you are finished.
11:26:08 |\n| 21 | A I don't recall.
11:23:34 | 21
A. Thank you.
11:26: 11 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. What about to translate something for 11 :23:34 | 22
Okay. I finished it, sir.
11:27:12 |\n| | 23 him, meaning 11r. Ho Wan Kwok? Have you ever done
11:23:37 | 23
Q. Thank you.
11:27:15 |\n| | 24 that for him?
1123:40 | 24
My question is the person who you were
11:27: 15 |\n| 25 | A Yes, I did.
11 23:41
Page 82 | 25 talking about in this answer, who you refer to as he
11 :27: 18
Page 84 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| I | Q. How frequently?
11:23:42 | I and his, is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?
11:27:22 |\n| 2 | A I don't recall.
11:23:44 | A. And reading from the language, of course,
2
11:27:28 |\n| 3 | Q. More than once?
11:23:48 | 3 this is by -- by the transcript court recorder.
11 :27:33 |\n| 4 | A Yes.
11:23:50 | 4 Like, it -- reading from the language, it looks like
11 :27:39 |\n| 5 | More than once.
11:23:51 | 5 yes. But I am referring to -- as I am starting from
11 :27:43 |\n| 6 | Q. Okay. When was the last time you translated 11 :23:52 | 6 the Guo family, is not just his immediate family, the 11 :27:47 |\n| | 7 something for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
11:23:55 | 7 entire Guo family.
11:27:52 |\n| 8 | A I don't recall.
11:23:57 | 8
Q. Yes.
11 :27:53 |\n| 9 | Q. Okay. Let's go to --
11 :24:01 | And you said on line two:
11:27:54
9 |\n| 10 | MR. HARBACH: What is 331? I can't see. Is 11:24:08 | \"Mr. Kwok, Miles Kwok, he is number
10
11:27:56 |\n| | 11 that --
11:24:11 | seventh son of the whole family.\"
11:28:06
11 |\n| | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:24:13 | 12
You are talking about the debtor,
11:28:07 |\n| 13 | Q. Okay. Let's go to Exhibit 2, please.
11 :24: 13 | 13 Kwok Ho Wan; correct?
11 :28: 10 |\n| 14 | A (Witness complies.)
11:24:15 | 14
A. Correct.
11:28:12 |\n| 15 | Q. And l'll ask you -- do you have Exhibit 2,
11:24:23 | 15 |\n| | | Q. Okay. And then you describe all of his
11:28:12 |\n| | 16 Ms. Wang?
11:24:26 | 16 relatives and the terrible things that happens to
11:28: 16 |\n| 17 | A Yes.
11:24:27 | 17 them. And then you say that the people to whom that
11:28:21 |\n| 18 | Q. Okay. Can you go, please, to page
11:24:27 | 18 happened include all of his, meaning
11 :28:29 |\n| | 19 forty-eight.
11 :24:32 | 19 Mr. Kwok Ho Wan -- all of his long-term employee,
11:28:34 |\n| 20 | A (Witness complies.)
11:24:34 | 20 just like me; so this is the basis for my question
11 :28:41 |\n| 21 | Q. Tell me when you are there.
11:24:46 | 21 five minutes ago.
11:28:49 |\n| 22 | A I'm working on it, sir. Forty-eight.
11 :24: 50 | 22
Isn't it true that you are a long-term
11 :28:51 |\n| 23 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
11:24:53 | 23 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? Is that true or not?
11:28:55 |\n| 24
25 | A Yes.
11:24:56
I am here.
11:24:56 | 24
A. I am a long-term employee for the Guo
11:29:01
25 family. I mean, I didn't remember clearly what was
11 :29:09 |\n\n22 (Pages 82 - 85)\n\n| | 1 recorded in here. Like, obviously, I was never in
11 :29: 12 | | So it is not Exhibit 2? You want me to go
11 :32:23 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 jail. I am under threatened, but I was not kidnapped 11:29: 17 | | 2 back to Exhibit I, sir; right?
11 :32:26 |\n| | 3 and in jail. I think it is still blamed to my broken 11:29:21 | 3 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
11:32:29 |\n| | 4 English back there. When I say long-term employee,
11:29:27 | 4 | A. (Witness complies.)
11 :32:32 |\n| | 5 my real -- my meaning as the Guo family. I am
11:29:30 | 5 | I'm here.
11 :32:33 |\n| | 6 a long-term employee of Guo family.
11:29:32 | 6 | Q. Okay. Thank you.
11:32:34 |\n| 7 | Q. Who?
11:29:36 | 7 | Now, could you please scroll forward on the
11:32:35 |\n| 8 | A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he never hired me by
11 :29:37 | | 8 small pages to page forty-six.
11:32:38 |\n| | 9 himself.
11:29:43 | 9 | A. (Witness complies.)
11 :32:42 |\n| 10 | Q. Well, who -- who -- first, since you brought 11:29:43 | 10 | Yes.
11:32:52 |\n| | 11 it up, who was the person who hired you to work for
11 :29:45 | 11 | Q. Okay. Very good.
11:32:53 |\n| | 12 the Guo family?
11 :29:49 | 12 | Now, on this subject of what administrator
11:32:54 |\n| 13 | A. It was a company. It was a company called
11:29:51 | | 13 means, if you'll look down at line twenty of page
11:32: 59 |\n| | 14 Pangu, P-a-n-g-u. Beijing Pangu.
11 :29: 53 | | 14 forty-six, you'll see a question:
11 :33:06 |\n| | | | |\n| 15 | Q. Yeah.
11:29:58 | 15 | \"QUESTION: I'maskingyouwhetheror
11:33:11 |\n| 16 | And who was the boss of Beijing Pangu when
11:29:59 | 16 | not you serve as an administrator for
11: 33: 12 |\n| | 17 you were hired to work for the Guo family?
11:30:03 | 17 | Mr. Kwok's\" --
11:33:17 |\n| 18 | A. You mean boss, like the owner?
11:30:07 | 18 | That is Ho Wan Kwok-- for his interests.
11 :33: 18 |\n| 19 | Q. Well, you know, you can ascribe whatever
11 :30: 11 | | 19 And your answer was:
11:33:22 |\n| | 20 meaning you want to boss, Ms. Wang, but you seem to
11 :30: 14 | 20 | \"ANSWER: Yes.\"
11:33:24 |\n| | 21 understand that Qiang Guo is the boss of
11:30: 17 | 21 | And then you were asked:
11 :33 :25 |\n| | 22 Golden Spring; so you tell me.
11:30:19 | 22 | \"QUESTION: What does that mean?\"
11:33:27 |\n| 23 | A. Oh, understand.
11:30:21 | 23 | And you said:
11 :33:30 |\n| 24 | So Beijing Pangu was owned by the Guo
11 :30:22 | 24 | \"ANSWER: Translator,\" comma,
11:33:31 |\n| | 25 families.
11 :30:28 | 25 | 11:33:33
\"assistant.\" |\n| | Page 86 | | Page 88 |\n| | | | |\n| I | Q. Okay. So who was it --
11:30:29 | I | Do you see that there?
11 :33:36 |\n| 2 | MR. HARBACH: And -- and, Scott, I won't
11:30:32 | 2 | A. Yes.
11 :33:37 |\n| | 3 stay here long, but she brought it up.
11:30:35 | 3 | Q. Now, you have already told us that you --
11 :33:38 |\n| | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:30:37 | | 4 you have, in fact, done some translation for
11:33:41 |\n| 5 | Q. Ms. Wang, who was it who told you at the
11:30:38 | | 5 Mr. Kwok-- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; right?
11:33:45 |\n| | 6 very beginning -- when you first started working for
11:30:41 | 6 | A. I translate for him -- translated for him,
11 :33:48 |\n| | 7 the Guo family, who was it who told you you were
11 :30:44 | | 7 yes.
11:33:52 |\n| | | 8 | Q. Yes. |\n| | 8 hired? Which person?
11:30:47 | 9 | 11 :33:53 |\n| 9 | A. I was advised by the HR department, which
11:30:49 | | And if--you also said-- it also says that 11:33:53 |\n| | 10 I couldn't recall. That was back in 20- -- 2008.
11:30:57 | | 10 you were his assistant.
11:34:00 |\n| | 11 I couldn't recall. But I was informed by the HR
11 :31 :02 | 11 | Is that true?
11:34:01 |\n| | 12 department! was hired.
11:31:06 | 12 | A. I mean that I -- I testified as an
11:34:03 |\n| 13 | Q. I'm going to apologize for rewinding just
11 :31:07 | | 13 administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and I help him as
11:34:09 |\n| | 14 for a moment back to an earlier topic. I'll try and
11:31:19 | | 14 per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, including, like,
11 :34: 13 |\n| | 15 make this clear and efficient.
11:31:24 | | 15 help him to translate, make him understand, include,
11 :34: 17 |\n| 16 | In Exhibit 4, which is your affidavit, you
11: 31:32 | | 16 like, assist as he needs -- right? -- to support him. 11 :34:22 |\n| | 17 recall that -- that I asked you several questions
11:31:46 | | 17 It does not mean I have -- I have a title called
11:34:27 |\n| | 18 about what being an administrator for
11:31:49 | | 18 assistant; so if that is what you are looking for.
11:34:30 |\n| | 19 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests meant? You with me?
11:31:52 | 19 | Q. Well--
11:34:32 |\n| 20 | A. Yes.
11 :31:58 | 20 | A. My meaning was I help him to understand as
11 :34:33 |\n| 21 | Q. Okay. So the reason I'm coming back to this 11:31:58 | | 21 to language and support him as he needed as his son's 11:34:36 |\n| | 22 is because I neglected to point something else out to 11 :32:02 | | 22 instruction.
11:34:40 |\n| | 23 you. And it is Exhibit I; so could you turn to
11:32:07 | 23 | Q. Okay. And so what does that mean, other
11:34:41 |\n| 25 | 24 Exhibit I, please.
11:32:15
A. (Witness complies.)
11:32:17 | | 24 than the translation work, when you say that assisted 11 :34:43
25 means support him as needed? What sorts of things
11:34:47 |\n\n23 (Pages 86 - 89)\n\n| | 1 didyoudoforhimbackin2018?
11:34:51 | 1
A. I don't understand, sir. I mean, capacity,
11:37:54 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. Could-- can you
11:34:57 | 2 I am available. I am here. I offer my support as
11:38:02 |\n| | 3 clarify, when you use the word you, are you referring 11 :34:59 | 3 Mr. Qiang Guo requested me to do. That is my
11:38:05 |\n| | 4 to Golden Spring, or are you referring to the witness 11:35:01 | 4 understanding about capacity. If that is the
11 :38:08 |\n| | 5 personally?
11:35:04 | 5 capacity you are talking, that is the same, yes.
11 :38: 10 |\n| 6 | MR. HARBACH: That's fair, Scott.
11:35:06 | 6
Q. Well,Ihearyou.
11:38:13 |\n| 7 | I believe when -- when she was deposed in
11:35:08 | 7
All I'm trying to confirm is that that was
11:38:15 |\n| | 8 2018, she was testifying in both her capacity as
11:35:11 | 8 what you were supposed to do, according to you, as
11:38: 19 |\n| | 9 a representative of Golden Spring and in her personal 11 :35: 16 | 9 president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was
11:38:23 |\n| | 10 capacity; so she is going to have to clarify that for 11 :35:20 | 10 translate for Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and cater to his
11:38:30 |\n| | 11 me.
11:35:24 | 11 personal needs; is that right? Is that what you are
11:38:34 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN: You can answer.
11:35:26 | 12 saying?
11 :38:38 |\n| 13 | THE WITNESS: I don't recall.
11:35:29 | 13
MR. ROSEN: Objection.
11:38:39 |\n| | 14 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:35:29 | 14
You -- you can answer.
11:38:40 |\n| IS | Q. Okay. And in any case, your role as an
11 :35:31 | THE WITNESS: Let me repeat again.
11:38:44
15 |\n| | 16 administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests, that,
11 :35:35 | My capacity as president of Golden Spring
11:38:46
16 |\n| | 17 according to you, was in your capacity as president
11:35:42 | 17 (New York) is to work as per the owner of company
11 :38:49 |\n| | 18 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; correct?
11:35:46 | 18 requesting needs to me, including assist his father,
11:38:55 |\n| 19 | A. I was requested by Mr. Qiang Guo to help
11:35:52 | 19 translate for his father, and that including here I'm 11:38:58 |\n| | 20 backin2018;thatiscorrect.
11:35:57 | 20 being deposed today; right?
11:39:02 |\n| 21 | Q. Okay. Well, I want to make sure you
11:36:01 | And sign the affidavit. Including a lot of 11 :39:05
21 |\n| | 22 understand my question because since Mr. Rosen
11 :36:04 | 22 things, I mean, if! may say, not only as you just
11:39:08 |\n| | 23 helpfully raised capacity, I want to make sure we get 11 :36:07 | 23 tried to describe me as assistant or translator, if
11 :39: 12 |\n| | 24 this correct.
11:36:11 | 24 that is helpful to you, sir.
11:39:17 |\n| 25 | Okay?
11:36:12 | 25 Ill |\n| | Page 90 | Page 92 |\n| | | |\n| I | So bearing in mind that we are talking about 11 :36: 13 | I BY MR. HARBACH:
11:39: 18 |\n| | 2 what being an administrator for Mr. Ho Wan K wok's
11:36:18 | 2
Q. Well, translator and assistant, again,
11:39:18 |\n| | 3 interests means -- that is what we're talking
11 :36:23 | 3 Ms. Wang, those were your words, not mine. I just
11:39:22 |\n| | 4 about -- I'm going to direct you back to Exhibit 1 --
11 :36:26 | 4 read them to you from a transcript. And so all I'm
11:39:25 |\n| | 5 correction. Exhibit 4 -- sorry.
11 :36:31 | 5 doing is trying to explore what your job as president 11:39:28 |\n| 6 | A. So Exhibit 4, sir; right? Which one are we
11 :36:36 | 11 :39:31 |\n| | 7 talking about? Four?
11:36:41 | 6 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was. And you
7 have -- you have explained part of that to us,
11 :39:34 |\n| 8 | Q. Yes, ma'am. | |\n| 9 | 11:36:42
The number four.
11:36:46 | 8 I think. And I'm just trying to understand what
11:39:38
9 assistant means.
11:39:45 |\n| | | |\n| 10 | A. I'mhere.
11 :36:48 | 10
Besides being a translator, can you tell me
11:39:53 |\n| 11 | Q. And this affidavit, which you have already
11:36:49
12 told us you signed and swore to as being true and
11:36:53 | 11 any more about that?
11:39:57
12
A. About what, sir?
11:39:58 |\n| | | |\n| | 13 correct, states that you're serving as an
11:36:57 | Q. About what you meant when you said you were
11:39:59
13 |\n| | 14 administrator for the interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
11:37:02 | 14 Kwok Ho Wan's assistant.
11:40:04 |\n| | 15 and his family was in your capacity as president of
11 :37:07 | A. That is what I -- that is -- that was not,
15
11:40:09 |\n| | 16 Golden Spring (New York) Limited: isn't that correct? 11:37:14 | 16 I mean, in my language. I mean, still I don't --
11:40: 13 |\n| 17 | A. I was hired by Golden Spring (New York), and 11 :37:23 | 17 I don't have this as my native language when I named
11 :40: 19 |\n| | 18 I take instruction from the owner of Golden Spring
11 :37:28 | 18 that, which means I offered that support and service. 11 :40:23 |\n| | 19 (New York). And I was available to support his
11 :37:32 | 19 I don't have a title called translator or assistant.
11 :40:26 |\n| | 20 family, including his father. That is what the
11:37:36 | 20 Obviously--
11:40:31 |\n| | 21 capacity, to me, means in here.
11:37:40 | Q. Which--
11:40:31
21 |\n| 22 | Q. And -- and what you just described,
11 :37:43 | 22
A. -- I don't have it, yeah; so I offered that
11 :40:32 |\n| | 23 according to you, was in your capacity as president
11:37:45 | 23 support.
11 :40:33 |\n| | 24 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; isn't that
11:37:50
25 right?
11:37:54 | 24
Q. Okay.
11 :40:33
A. This is what I'm meaning, if that is
11 :40:34
25 |\n\n24 (Pages 90 - 93)\n\n| 1 helpful.
11:40:37 | 1 the lifestyle -- I mean, take care of his father.
11:43:10 |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
Q. Got it.
11 :40:37 | 2
Q. When did he give you that instruction?
11:43:13 |\n| Tell me what -- now, what you just meant
3 | 11 :40:38
A. Oh, I don't recall. I should -- from long
11 :43: 16
3 |\n| 4 right now when you said support. | 4 time ago. I mean, son take care of the father.
11:40:40
11:43:22 |\n| Besides translation, what else?
5 | 5 I mean, that is kind of natural to me, so
11:40:42
11:43:25 |\n| A. For example, I am being deposed right now in 11 :40:44
6 | Q. Well, I'm not going to quarrel with -- with
11 :43:28
6 |\n| 7 this bankruptcy.
11:40:51 | 7 whether it is natural or not.
11:43:32 |\n| Q. Okay.
8
11:40:53 | 8
My only question is you just said that --
11:43:34 |\n| A. This is as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction;
9 | 11:40:53
9 that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you the instruction that you
11:43:39 |\n| 10 right?
11:40:57 | 10 just recited.
11:43:43 |\n| And so
11:40:57
11 | And my question is when? You said a long
11:43:45
11 |\n| 12
Q. Is your testimony -- I don't think this is | 11 :40:58
12 time ago? How long ago?
11:43:48 |\n| 13 what you are saying, but I'll ask it anyway because | 11 :41 :00
A. I don't recall.
11:43:51
13 |\n| 14 it is a fair inference from your words. | 11:41:03
14
Q. More than a month ago?
11:43:52 |\n| Is your testimony today in support of
15 | A. It should be longerthanmorethanamonth.
11 :41:06
11:43:57
15 |\n| 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? | 11:41:08
Q. Okay. Had he given you that instruction by
11 :44:00
16 |\n| 17
MR. ROSEN: Objection. | 11:41:11
17 the time of your deposition in October of2018?
11:44:03 |\n| 18
You can answer that.
11 :41:14 | A. I don't recall.
18
11:44:08 |\n| 19
THE WITNESS: I am testimony -- I am testify 11:41: 15 | 19
Q. Had he given you that instruction by the
11:44:08 |\n| 20 today for a bankruptcy like a-- I believe the topic | 20 time of your trial testimony in May of2019?
11:41:19
11:44:12 |\n| 21 is about DIP loan; right?
11:41:24 | A. I don't recall.
11:44:17
21 |\n| 22 BY MR. HARBACH: | 11:41:27
22
Q. Isn't it possible?
11:44:18 |\n| Q. And I would love to get there, but we --
23 | 11 :41:27
23
A. I don't recall.
11:44:23 |\n| 24 we're -- well, let me just ask one more time. | 11:41:29
24
Q. Well, did he give you that instruction
11:44:24 |\n| I understand that you are not -- you are
25 | 11 :41:32
25 sometime in 2020?
11:44:33 |\n| | |\n| | Page 94
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I
A. I really don't recall.
11:44:35 |\n| 2 I understand that. I understand that your title was | 11 :41 :39
Q. How long has Golden Spring (New York) been
11:44:40
2 |\n| 3 all those titles I recited several times now at | 11:41:42
3 paying for Mr. Kwok's lifestyle, as you just said?
11:44:57 |\n| 4 Golden Spring (New York) Limited. And I also | 11 :41 :46
4
A. How long? I believe since I was appointed.
11 :45 :03 |\n| 5 understand that according to you, in your capacity as 11:41:50 | 5 I mean, I don't recall clearly. I don't recall. But 11 :45: 13 |\n| 6 president, you served as an administrator of the | 11:41:54
6 a long time.
11:45:17 |\n| 7 interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and the family. | 11:41:58
7
Q. Okay. Well, you said two things there. You 11:45:19 |\n| 8
You were asked at a deposition about what | 11:42:04
8 said you believe since you were appointed and you
11:45:22 |\n| 9 serving as an administrator meant, and you said | 11:42:07
9 have said you don't recall; so I have -- I'm going to 11 :45:25 |\n| 10 translator and assistant. Now, we all know what | 11:42: 12
10 have to ask you to tell me which it is.
11:45:29 |\n| 11 a translator is, and that is clear. It is clear that 11:42:18 | A. I don't recall. And I shouldn't speculate
11:45:33
11 |\n| 12 you performed that service for Mr. Kwok. | 11:42:21
12 or guess because when I was appointed, as
11:45:37 |\n| All I'm trying to understand, Ms. Wang, is
13 | 13 I testified, like, a couple of minutes ago, which was 11 :45 :42
11:42:24 |\n| 14 what else you did for him, and so far the only thing | 11 :42:27
14 true, Mr. Qiang Guo was operating and running his
11:45:46 |\n| 15 you have said is testify at this deposition. | 11:42:31
15 business; so that is the reason I correct my answer
11:45:50 |\n| 16
Is there anything else?
11:42:33 | 16 to be I don't recall because I was not paying that by 11:45:53 |\n| 17
A. Yes.
11 :42:37 | 17 myself. I don't recall the answers.
11:45:59 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Objection.
18 | 11:42:38
18
Q. Understood.
11 :46:00 |\n| 19
11:42:40
You can answer. | 19
What role did you have -- as president,
11:46:01 |\n| 20
THE WITNESS: Yes. | 11:42:42
20 secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring,
11 :46: 13 |\n| 21 BY MR. HARBACH: | 11:42:43
21 what role did you have in making sure that
11:46:18 |\n| Q. Okay. What else?
11:42:44
22 | 22 Mr. Kwok's -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle needs were
11:46:24 |\n| 23
A. For example, Mr. Qiang Guo, obviously, he | 11:42:47
23 paid for?
11: 46 :29 |\n| 24 instructed Golden Spring to pay his father's, like,
25 food, clothes, and, like, including this -- they call 11 :43:01 | 11 :42:54
24
A. Sorry, sir.
11:46:31
25
Can you please repeat your question?
11 :46:33 |\n\n25 (Pages 94 - 97)\n\n| Q. Yes, ma'am. | 1 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 1 | Q. Who do you receive those from? |\n| 11:46:35 | 11:50:31 |\n| 2 | A. Which bill you were talking about, sir? |\n| As president, secretary, treasurer, and | 11 :50:33 |\n| 11:46:36 | 2 |\n| 3 director of Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what
11:46:42 | Q. Any of the above.
11 :50:38
3 |\n| 4 role did you have in ensuring that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's
11:46:47 | A. I mean, some of them, they go through from
11:50:41
4 |\n| 5 lifestyle needs were paid for? | 5 the card. Some of them we received it from the -- |\n| 11:46:53 | 11 :50:45 |\n| A. What role I ensured with? I mean, sorry.
11 :46:55
6 | 6 the vendor.
11:50:48 |\n| That's -- that's the question you were | Q. Okay. How many of those bills do you |\n| 11:47:05 | 11:50:50 |\n| 7 | 7 |\n| 8 asking for; right? | 8 receive from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok directly? |\n| 11 :47:06 | 11:50:56 |\n| Q. Yes, ma'am. | A. Directly? I don't recall. |\n| 11:47:08 | 11 :50:59 |\n| 9 | 9 |\n| And I'll try one more time in English, and | Q. How do you know whether -- any of the |\n| 11:47:08 | 10 |\n| 10 | 11:51:06 |\n| 11 then we might need to use Ms. Johnston. | 11 expenses that you review to take care of |\n| 11:47:11 | 11: 51: 10 |\n| A. Yes, please.
12
11:47: 15 | 12 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle, how do you know or
11:51:14 |\n| I feel the same.
11:47:16
13 | 13 verify, as you said, whether any of them are actually 11:51:19 |\n| 14
Q. It's okay. I'll try it one more time.
11:47:17 | 14 his?
11:51:23 |\n| You have stated that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you | 15 |\n| 11:47:21 | A. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo, he requested |\n| 15 | 11 :51:25 |\n| 16 instruction to take care of his father, I mean, more | 16 Golden Spring to take care of both his parents; so |\n| 11:47:25 | 11:51:32 |\n| 17 orless. You don't remember exactly when he gave you 11:47:35 | 17 I mean, only, like, is -- is clarified, like this is
11 :51:38 |\n| 18 that instruction, but it was a long time ago. | 18 his father's clothes and then we obviously will |\n| 11:47:37 | 11:51:45 |\n| Have I got that right so far?
11:47:41
19 | 19 verify from that. Like --
11 :51:48 |\n| 20 | 20 |\n| A. Yes. | Q. And-- |\n| 11 :47:43 | 11:51:51 |\n| Q. Okay. And I'm asking now, in your role as | 21 |\n| 11 :47:47 | A. -- grocery bill, I think it is more, like, |\n| 21 | 11: 51: 52 |\n| 22 president, and all those other titles, of | 22 mixed for the mom and that. |\n| 11:48:00 | 11:51:55 |\n| 23 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what did you do to
11 :48:03 23 | Q. Okay. And, number one, how do you know that 11:51:57 |\n| 24 ensure that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his lifestyle needs | 24 it is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's clothing that is being |\n| 11:48:13 | 11:52:01 |\n| 25 were taken care of? Do you understand the question? | 25 purchased? How do you verify that? |\n| 11:48:20 | 11 :52:05 |\n| Page 98 | Page 100 |\n| A. I believe so. | 1 |\n| 11:48:27 | A. I verifying with the vendor directly. |\n| I | 11 :52:07 |\n| Q. Okay. So what is the answer? | Q. And -- huh. |\n| 11:48:29 | 11 :52: 13 |\n| 2 | 2 |\n| 3 | 3 |\n| A. For example, like, I communicate with | So you -- you ask a vendor whether the |\n| 11:48:34 | 11:52:19 |\n| 4 Mr. Qiang Guo about the fund, including this depo. | 4 clothing was purchased by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? |\n| 11:48:42 | 11 :52:22 |\n| 5 He take care of the request and then make sure the
11:48:52 | A. Yeah. Because the man's clothes, the
11:52:27
5 |\n| 6 funds in there to take care of his father. | 6 women's clothes are pretty obvious; right? |\n| 11:49:01 | 11:52:32 |\n| 7 | 7 |\n| Q. We're going to -- we're going to talk about | But I do need to verify, yes. |\n| 11 :49:04 | 11:52:35 |\n| 8 the fund in just a moment. But you mentioned
11:49:10 | Q. Yeah. I get the difference between men's
8
11:52:38 |\n| 9 lifestyle needs earlier, things like clothing, food, | 9 and women's clothes. |\n| 11:49:14 | 11:52:42 |\n| 10 transportation -- basics.
11:49:22 | 10
So is it the case that any -- any -- any
11 :52:44 |\n| As president of Golden Spring (New York)
11:49:29
11 | 11 charge that is obviously for men's clothing you
11:52:49 |\n| 12 Limited, were you involved in paying for or providing 11:49:31 | 12 assume is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, and any charge that is for 11:52:53 |\n| 13 those things for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? | 13 women's clothing you assume is for his wife? |\n| 11:49:39 | 11:52:59 |\n| 14 | 14 |\n| A. Yes. | A. I don't assume. I mean, I have to verify |\n| 11 :49:45 | 11:53:04 |\n| Q. Please tell me what you did.
11:49:46
15 | 15 because I need to report back the funds; right? --
11:53:07 |\n| 16
A. Like, I will review the bills and verify --
11: 49: 5 2 | 16 the financials to the owner of the company clearly--
11:53:15 |\n| 17 if there is any need to verify -- and process the
11 :50:03 | 17
Q. Absolutely.
11 :53: 18 |\n| 18 payment in clothing.
11:50:07 | 18
A. -- so I verify.
11 :53: 19 |\n| Q. What types of bills? | 19 |\n| 19 | Q. Absolutely. |\n| 11 :50:08 | 11 :53:20 |\n| 20 | 20 |\n| A. Like, clothes. Like, food -- grocery food. | A. So I verify. |\n| 11 :50: 11 | 11 :53:21 |\n| Q. And -- and are these credit card bills or | Q. Let's -- do you -- do you review any credit |\n| 11:50: 19 | 11 :53:22 |\n| 21 | 21 |\n| 22 are they receipts directly from the vendor or what?
11 :50:21 | |\n| | 22 card bills as part of that process?
11:53:25 |\n| 23 | 23 |\n| A. I believe they are both. | A. Sometimes. |\n| 11:50:26 | 11:53:29 |\n| 24 | 24 |\n| Q. Okay. | Q. Okay. And when you re- -- when you review |\n| 11:50:28 | 11:53:30 |\n| A. It is a mixed.
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11 :53:35
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MR. HARBACH: Sure. Sure.
11:56:19 | |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--|\n| | 2 in a hotel. Let's just take that as an example.
11:53:45 | I'm sorry to be cute.
11:56:21
2 | |\n| 3 | How do you verify who made the charge?
11:53:48 | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
11:56:22 | |\n| 4 | A. Like, a hotel, you mean; right? For an
11:53:54 | Q. Ms. Wang, can you give us a more precise
11 :56:23
4 | |\n| | 5 example.
11:54:02 | 5 date range during which Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife had
11 :56:28 | |\n| 6 | Q. I'm taking that as an example.
11:54:02 | 6 access to the Golden Spring (New York) debit card?
11:56:32 | |\n| 7 | A. If hotel, we obviously, Golden Spring, will
11 :54:05 | A. I don't recall, sir.
7
11:56:38 | |\n| | 8 call the hotel to verify.
11:54:09 | 8
Q. Do you recall the last time that she --
11 :56:42 | |\n| 9 | Q. To verify that the charge was made?
11:54:10 | 9 meaning Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife -- used the
11 :56:46 | |\n| 10 | A. Yes.
11:54:14 | 10 Golden Spring (New York) debit card?
11 :56:49 | |\n| II | That is part of internal, I mean, audit.
11:54:14 | A. I don't recall.
11
11 :56:53 | |\n| | 12 It -- it is normal.
11:54:18 | Q. Did you, as president and treasurer of
12
11:56:54 | |\n| 13 | Q. Okay. Sohowaboutfiguringoutwhoused
11:54:19 | 13 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, authorize
11:56:59 | |\n| | 14 the credit card? How would you do that?
11:54:23 | 14 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife to use the Golden Spring
11:57:04 | |\n| 15 | A. You -- I don't follow your question, sir.
11:54:26 | 15 (New York) debit card?
11:57:09 | |\n| 16 | Who used credit cards? You mean
11:54:34 | A. Authorized? I believe yes. And
16
11:57:12 | |\n| | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, how he used credit card; right?
11 :54:36 | 17 Mr. Qiang Guo requested Golden Spring to do that.
11:57:17 | |\n| 18 | Q. Sure.
11:54:40 | 18
Q. But you don't recall when that was?
11:57:20 | |\n| 19 | That -- that is -- that is a possibility,
11:54:41 | 19
A. Correct.
11:57:25 | |\n| | 20 but I don't know. I'm asking you.
11:54:43 | 20
Q. Okay. And I believe you testified a moment
11 :57:27 | |\n| 21 | A. No.
11:54:45 | 21 ago that to your knowledge Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has never
11:57:3 | |\n| 22 | He doesn't use Golden Spring's credit cards. 11:54:45 | 22 used the Golden Spring (New York) debit card; is that 11: 57:38 | |\n| 23 | Q. Does Golden Spring have credit cards?
11 :54:48 | 23 correct?
11 :57:43 | |\n| 24 | A. We have debit card.
11:54:51 | A. HeneverhasGoldenSpring(NewYork)debit
24
11:57:46 | |\n| 25 | Q. Okay. Does Golden Spring have any credit
11:54:53 | 25 card at all.
11:57:51 | |\n| | Page 102 | Page 104 | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | 1 cards?
11 :54:58 | Q. Has he ever used the debit card number to
11 :57:55 | |\n| 2 | A. As of now, no.
11:55:00 | 2 purchase anything, to your knowledge?
11 :57:58 | |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. Does Mr. Kwok have access to the
11 :55:03 | A. I don't know.
11 :58:01
3 | |\n| | 4 Golden Spring debit card?
11:55:12 | Q. Has he ever asked you -- \"he\" meaning
11:58:03
4 | |\n| 5 | A. No.
11 :55: 15 | 5 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
11:58:08 | |\n| 6 | Q. What about his wife? Does he [sic] have
11:55:15 | Has he ever asked you to purchase anything
11 :58:09
6 | |\n| | 7 access to the Golden Spring debit card?
11:55:18 | 7 for him in your capacity as president of
11:58:12 | |\n| 8 | A. I don't recall.
11:55:21 | 8 Golden Spring?
11:58:15 | |\n| 9 | Q. You are the treasurer of Golden Spring
11:55:25 | A. I believe so.
11:58:19
9 | |\n| | 10 (New York) Limited; right?
11:55:33 | Q. Okay. Can you give us an example of
10
11 :58:21 | |\n| II | A. Yes.
11:55:36 | 11 anything he has asked you to purchase for him?
11 :58:25 | |\n| 12 | Q. You -- you really don't know whether
11:55:38 | A. I mean, I don't recall the details, but it
12
11:58:29 | |\n| | 13 Ho Wan Kwok's wife has access to the company debit
11:55:43 | 13 happened.
11:58:33 | |\n| | 14 card?
11:55:48 | 14
Q. You don't remember a single thing that
11 :58:34 | |\n| 15 | A. She had one before, but I'm not sure whether 11:55:49 | 15 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has asked you to purchase for him?
11:58:37 | |\n| | 16 that one is still activated.
11:55:53 | 16
A. I don't recall.
11 :58:43 | |\n| 17 | Q. When did she have one?
11:55:56 | 17
Q. How many times has it happened that he has
11 :58:44 | |\n| 18 | A. Long time ago.
11:55:58 | 18 asked you to purchase something for him?
11:58:49 | |\n| 19 | Q. Can you do better than that?
11:56:00 | 19
A. I don't recall.
11 :58:54 | |\n| 20 | A. What do you mean, can I do better than that, 11: 56 :0 5 | Q. More than once?
20
11 :58:54 | |\n| | 21 sir?
11:56: 10 | 21
A. Correct.
11:58:57 | |\n| 22 | Q. You know what I mean.
11 :56: 10 | 22
Q. More than a hundred times?
11:58:59 | |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
11:56:12 | 23
A. I don't recall.
11 :59:02 | |\n| 24 | Can you please ask the witness directly what 11:56:15 | 24
Q. On the occasions when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has
11:59:03 | |\n| | 25 your question is?
11:56:17
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11:59:15
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11 :59:18 | Have I got that right?
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A. As per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, I help
11 :59:20 | A. Yeah. That is the instruction was given to
12:02:31
2 |\n| 3 him, yes I go to buy for him.
11 :59:28 | 3 Golden Spring; so --
12:02:34 |\n| II :59:32
Q. Okay. Have -- has -- have you ever--
4 | 4
Q. And is this --
12:02:35 |\n| 5 has -- have you ever refused a request from
11:59:37 | 5
A. -- we just go buy.
12:02:38 |\n| 6 J\\Ar. Ho Wan Kwok that you purchase something for him? 11 :59:41 | 6
Q. Is that true, no matter how expensive the
12:02:40 |\n| 7
A. Yes.
11 :59:45 | 7 item is?
12:02:42 |\n| 8
Q. When was that?
11:59:46 | 8
A. Sir, what -- what is your range about
12:02:44 |\n| A. I don't recall. But I obviously need to
11 :59:48
9 | 9 expensive? I mean --
12:02:48 |\n| 10 report it to Mr. Qiang Guo, and ifhe reject it,
11:59:56 | 10
Q. Well, let's take -- let's take
12:02:50 |\n| 11 I will reject
12:00:01 | 11 transportation as an example.
12:02:53 |\n| Q. Okay. Is your -- so I want to make sure | Are you aware that -- that Mr. Kwok
12:02:54
12 |\n| 12
12:00:03 | |\n| 13 I understand the process.
12:00:06 | 13 frequently travels in a Maybach limousine?
12:02:57 |\n| 14
Is it your testimony that every time
12:00:07 | 14
A. Am I aware? What do you mean am I aware?
12:03:05 |\n| 15 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asks you to buy something for him
12.00.10 | Q. Do you know -- do you know what a limousine
12:03:09
15 |\n| 16 thatyouconsulthissontogetpermission' Isthat 12:00:14 | 16 is?
12:03:12 |\n| 17 correct or not?
1200.23 | 17
A. Limo, yes. I do know.
12:03:13 |\n| A. Not every time. Like, as you said, for
12:00:23
18 | 18
Q. Okay. And do you know what a Maybach is?
12:03:15 |\n| 19 example, buy coffee; right?
12:00:27 | 19
A. Yes.
12:03:18 |\n| 20
Obviously I don't need to consult with
12:00:28 | Q. Okay. Is it a type of car; right?
20
12:03: 19 |\n| 21 Mr. Qiang Guo.
12:00:30 | 21
A. Correct.
12:03:22 |\n| 22
Q. Okay. How do you decide when to consult
12:00:32 | Q. Isn't it true that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
22
12:03:22 |\n| 23 with JI.Ar. Kwok Ho Wan's son about a purchase that
12:00:35 | 23 frequently travels by Maybach?
12:03:27 |\n| 24 Mr. Kwok Ho Wan wants you to make?
12:00:43 | A. Sir-- sir, I know Mileson want his father
12:03:32
24 |\n| A. I don't recall. But that happened.
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Page 106 | 25 to be safe and secured; so that is the thing I know.
12:03:38
Page 108 |\n| Q. Do you have any -- any thoughts about that?
12:00:49
I | I But I don't know, like, frequency. I use that
12:03 :43 |\n| A Like, a legal fee?
12:00:53
2 | 2 Obviously, I am not following his father every day.
12:03:48 |\n| Q. No.
12:00:57
3 | |\n| | 3 I cannot tell that
12:03:50 |\n| I'm -- I'm just asking you in general. I'm
12:00:58
4 | Q. Does -- does Golden Spring-- I'll ask you
12:03:51
4 |\n| 5 not asking you about legal fees yet, although
12:01 :00 | 5 to accept for purposes of this deposition today --
12:03:54 |\n| 6 hopefully we will get there.
12:01:05 | 6 just take my word for it that within the last month
12:03:59 |\n| I'm asking you about in general if
12:01:06
7 | 7 Mr. Kwok has traveled at least once by Maybach.
12:04:02 |\n| 8 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok says, hey, Yvette, I would like you
12:01:08 | 8
Okay?
12:04:08 |\n| 9 to buy me X, how do you know whether just to buy X or 12:01: 14 | 9
Let's just assume that.
12:04:08 |\n| 10 whether to get his son's permission? How do you
12:01:21 | 10
My question for you is is that Maybach
12:04: 11 |\n| 12:01:30 | 11 transportation that Golden Spring (New York) has paid 12:04:17 |\n| II decide?
A Well, yearly, like, his food and his coffee
12:01:30
12 | 12 for?
12:04: 19 |\n| 13 and then his transportation, those lifestyle were
12:01:34 | A. Golden Spring (New York) pays -- pays the --
12:04:21
13 |\n| 14 already approved by Mr. Qiang Guo; so you already --
12:01:40 | 14 the gasolines and-- yeah. The gasolines. That
12:04:24 |\n| 15 Golden Spring just to go ahead to buy or purchase and 12:01:44 | [5 IS --
12:04:31 |\n| | 16 |\n| 16 then report back to Mr. Qiang Guo; so anything
12:01:49 | Q. Does --
12:04:31 |\n| 17 except -- besides -- except which words? Except
12:01:53 | 17
A. -- what transportation we are paying.
12:04:32 |\n| 18 that, we obviously, Golden Spring, need to escalate
12:01:57 | Q. Does Golden Spring (New York) own any
12:04:35
18 |\n| 19 to Mr. Qiang Guo to get approval.
12:02:02 | 19 Maybach vehicles?
12:04:36 |\n| 20
Q. Understood.
12:02:04 | A. Oh, I -- I couldn't remember, like, if
20
12:04:38 |\n| And so ifl -- ifl have you correctly,
12:02:05
21 | 21 Maybach owned by Golden Spring or not. I mean,
12:04:47 |\n| 22 things like food, clothing, transportation -- those
12:02:08 | 22 Golden Spring owns a couple of cars. They all
12:04:50 |\n| 23 things do not require specific approval of
12:02: 15 | 23 ultimately owned by Mr. Qiang Guo.
12:04:53 |\n| 24 Mr. Qiang Guo and, in your mind, you can just buy
12:02: 19
25 them for Mr. Kwok without getting his permission.
12:02:26 | Q. Yeah. I get that
24
12:04:56
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Tell me about the cars that Golden Spring
12:04:57 |\n\n28 (Pages I 06 - I 09)\n\n| | 1 owns. You just mentioned that there are a couple.
12:04:59 | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
12:07:53 | |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2 | \\Vhat are they?
12:05:06 | 2
Q. Sure.
12:07:53 | |\n| 3 | A I'm not car person; so I have to find out.
12:05:07 | A. I do need a lunch break, yeah.
3
12:07:53 | |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. Are they nice cars 7
12:05:11 | Q. If--ifyouwouldliketotakeabreaknow, 12:07:56
4 | |\n| 5 | A I cannot tell.
12:05:14 | 5 that is no problem at all.
12:07:58 | |\n| 6 | Q. And you don't know whether one of the cars
12:05:16 | MR HARBACH: I don't know if Suzanne or
12:08:02
6 | |\n| | 7 that Golden Spring (New Yark) owns is a Maybach; is
12:05:20 | 7 Jeff who takes us off, but I will suggest reconvening 12:08:03 | |\n| | 8 thatright?
12:05:24 | 8 at -- at 1 :00 o'clock.
12:08:08 | |\n| 9 | A. I don't know because this is Mr. M1leson,
12:05:26 | 9
Is that amenable to folks?
12:08: 10 | |\n| | 10 like Mr. Qiang Guo, he purchased directly
12:05:31 | MR ROSEN: Yes.
10
12:08: 13 | |\n| 11 | Q. Yeah.
12:05:34 | MR HARBACH: Okay.
12:08:15
11 | |\n| 12 | A So I'm not --
12:05:35 | We are going off the
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THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
12:08: 16 | |\n| 13 | Q. I -- I -- I understand.
12:05:36 | 13 record.
12:08: 17 | |\n| 14 | But I'm asking about Golden Spring
12:05:37 | 14
The time is 12:08.
12:08: 17 | |\n| | 15 (New York).
12.05.40 | 15
(Luncheon recess taken.)
13:01:33 | |\n| 16 | Okay?
12:05:40 | 16
THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
We are back on the
13:01:33 | |\n| 17 | I'm asking about Golden Spring (New York)
12.05.41 | 17 record.
13:01:36 | |\n| | 18 Limited, of which you are the president, treasurer,
12:05 :44 | 18
The time is 1:01.
13:01 :36 | |\n| | 19 secretary, and director. I'm asking if you know
12:05:48 | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:01:40 | |\n| | 20 whether Golden Spring (New Yark) Limited owns
12:05:52 | 20
Q. Good afternoon, Ms. Wang -- Ms. Wang.
13:01:46 | |\n| | 21 a Maybach automobile.
12:05:55 | 21
One little loose end that has nothing to do
13:01:48 | |\n| 22 | Do you know?
12:05:57 | 22 with what I was asking you about before lunch.
13:01:53 | |\n| 23 | A. I don't recall. I have to find out.
12 05:59 | 23
Okay? Do you know someone called Yu Yong?
13:01:56 | |\n| 24 | Q. Okay. You have also told me that
12:06:02 | 24 That is Y-u Y-o-n-g.
13:02:02 | |\n| | 25 Golden Spnng (New Yark) pays for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's
12:06:07 | 25
A. Yes.
13:02:09 | |\n| | Page 110 | Page 112 | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| | 1 transportation; right?
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Q. Okay. Who is that person?
13:02:10 | |\n| 2 | A Correct.
12:06:15 | A. I met her in New York before.
13:02:13
2 | |\n| 3 | Q. And that would include transportation by
12:06:16 | Q. Okay. Do you know what she does for
13:02: 17
3 | |\n| | 4 car; correct?
12:06:20 | 4 aliving?
13:02:25 | |\n| 5 | A Correct.
12:06:22 | 5
A. When I met with her, she was working
13:02:26 | |\n| 6 | Q. That would include arranging for a leased
12:06:24 | 6 together with the family also.
13 :02:29 | |\n| | 7 vehicle if that is how he wanted to travel; correct?
12:06:32 | Q. The -- the Guo family?
13:02:30
7 | |\n| 8 | A We pay the gasoline.
12:06:37 | 8
A. Yes.
13:02:34 | |\n| 9 | Q. Yeah. I heard that I'm just trying to
12:06:42 | Q. With whom specifically?
13:02:35
9 | |\n| | 10 figure out who owns the vehicle, Ms. Wang.
12:06:45 | 10
A. With Mr. Qiang Guo.
13:02:38 | |\n| 11 | Do you know whether Golden Spring (New York) 12:06:49 | Q. Anyone else?
13:02:44
11 | |\n| | 12 Limited has rented or leased a Maybach in order to
12:06:52 | 12
A. I believe with -- with Mr. Qiang Guo's
13:02:45 | |\n| | 13 transport Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? Do you know?
12:06:57 | 13 father together --
13:02:49 | |\n| 14 | A I don't know.
12:07:02 | Q. And--
14
13:02:51 | |\n| 15 | MR HARBACH: So Mr. -- Mr. Rosen, I'll take 12:07:10 | A. -- but I don't have the details.
13:02:52
15 | |\n| | 16 the witness up on her offer to get back to us on the
12 :07: 15 | 16
Q. Okay. And approximately when was that that
13:02:54 | |\n| | 17 types of cars that Golden Spring (New York) owns,
12:07: 19 | 17 you met her?
13:02:57 | |\n| | 18 and, in particular, whether they own any Maybach
12:07:24 | 18
A. 2015.
13:02:58 | |\n| | 19 automobiles, if that is okay with you.
12:07:28 | 19
Q. Okay. Thank you.
13:03:01 | |\n| 20 | MR ROSEN: We'll take it under advisement.
12:07:31 | 20
A new subject.
13:03:04 | |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH: Okay.
12:07:33 | 21
Who set up Golden Spring (New York) Limited? 13:03:07 | |\n| 22 | MR ROSEN: Your request is -- is noted.
12:07:33 | 22
A. In my understanding, it was set up by
13:03:13 | |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH: All right Thank you.
12:07:38 | 23 Mr. Qiang Guo.
13:03:19 | |\n| 24 | THE WITNESS: Sir, can we have a break?
12:07:49
25 I mean, it is 12:00.
12:07:51 | Q. Who -- when you say it is your
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25 understanding, do you know that or did somebody tell
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MR. ROSEN: Objection. What is the -- what
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A. This is I learned afterwards. I believe
13:03:27 | 2 is the relevance of this, David?
13:06:46 |\n| 3 there will be --there will be law firms supporting
13:03:31 | MR. HARBACH: I'm trying to explore the
13:06:49
3 |\n| 4 by him, but he set up the company.
13:03:34 | 4 witness' most recent answer about the business
13:06:52 |\n| 5
Q. Why did he set up the company?
13:03:37 | 5 purpose of Golden Spring. She said that he -- that
13:06:55 |\n| 6
A. I got to know later on -- not, like, when he 13:03:39 | 6 he, Qiang Guo, created it to do X, Y, and Z. And I'm 13:06: 59 |\n| 7 set up the company -- he was trying to do business
13:03:46 | 7 trying to inquire about how long he was actually in
13:07:05 |\n| 8 outside of China, like, mainly in the U.S. here.
13:03:50 | 8 the country after Golden Spring was created. That is 13:07:09 |\n| Q. What sort of business?
9
13:03:54 | 9 why I'm asking.
13:07:12 |\n| A. Like, business related to real estate,
13:03:56
10 | MR. ROSEN: Just note for the record that we 13:07:13
10 |\n| 11 investment -- like a diversified business.
13:04:02 | 11 are all here in different locations at this
13:07: 14 |\n| 12
Q. Okay. Who funded Golden Spring (New York)
13 :04:06 | 12 deposition. And in today's world where your -- where 13:07: 18 |\n| | |\n| 13 when it was created?
13:04:11 | 13 your seat is doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot.
13:07:23 |\n| 14
A. I learned afterwards Mr. Qiang Guo, he
13:04:12 | 14
But with that said, I would instruct the
13 :07:26 |\n| 15 arranged the fund -- fund the Golden Spring.
13:04:22 | 15 witness to answer.
13:07:29 |\n| 16
Q. When you say he arranged it, do you mean
13:04:26 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:07:30 |\n| 17 that he, himself, provided the money?
13:04:29 | Q. The --the question was when-- or how long
17
13:07:30 |\n| A. Hmmm. No.
13:04:34
18 | 18 has Mr. Qiang Guo lived in the UK.
13:07:36 |\n| He arranged via his -- another company.
13:04:35
19 | A. For years. I mean--
19
13:07:40 |\n| 20 I believe it is called Bravo Luck.
13:04:40 | 20
Q. Are you finished with your answer?
13:07:51 |\n| Q. I see.
13:04:44
21 | 21
You said for years, maybe?
13:08:03 |\n| 22
And so your understanding is that the money
13:04:45 | 22
A. My -- my answer was not four, f-o-u-r, as
13:08:04 |\n| 23 that funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it
13:04:48 | 23 years. This is my answer.
13:08:04 |\n| 24 was created came from Bravo Luck?
13:04:55 | 24
Q. All right.
13:08:04 |\n| A. That is what I learned.
13:05:00
25 | 25
A. I don't know how many, yeah.
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Q. From whom?
13:05:01 | 1
Q. You don't know how many years?
13:08:06 |\n| A. From Mr. Qiang Guo.
13:05:03
2 | A. Correct.
13:08:08
2 |\n| 3
Q. Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
13:05:05 | Q. Could it be more than ten years?
13:08:09
3 |\n| 4 about Bravo Luck?
13:05: 10 | A. I don't think so.
13:08:11
4 |\n| 5
A. Hmmm. I don't recall.
13:05: 13 | Q. How long, if -- if you know, how long after
5
13:08: 13 |\n| 6
Q. Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
13:05: 16 | 6 Golden Spring (New York) Limited was created did
13:08:24 |\n| | |\n| 7 about the source of money that was used to fund
13:05:20 | 7 Mr. Guo -- Qiang Guo move to the UK?
13:08:28 |\n| 8 Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it was created? 13:05:24 8 | A. I cannot recall.
13:08:34 |\n| 9
A. No.
13:05:28 | 9
Q. All right. Do you know -- what can you tell 13:08:40 |\n| 10
I don't recall I did that.
13:05:30 | 10 us about what Golden Spring (New York) Limited has
13:08:47 |\n| II
Q. Do you know how Bravo Luck got the money
13:05:34 | 11 done to advance the business purposes you just
13:08:50 |\n| 12 that you say funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited? 13:05:41 12 described? | 13:08:55 |\n| A. I don't know.
13:05:44
13 | 13
A. Mr. Qiang Guo was in the United States in
13:08:55 |\n| 14
Q. What is -- what was Golden Spring
13:05:47 | 14 2015, and then he travels a lot also. And,
13:09:05 |\n| 15 (New York)'s business purpose when it was created?
13:05:54 | 15 obviously, he set up the company, and then we develop 13:09:12 |\n| A. Oh, Golden Spring was created as a family
13:05:57
16 | 16 business structure and plan from there; so that is
13:09:16 |\n| 17 office owned by Mr. Qiang Guo; so Mr. Qiang Guo was | 13:06:04 17 still his direction, which we have been doing until
13:09:22 |\n| 18 planning, as I said, to develop and expand the
13:06:09 | 18 his father started to do his whistle-blower moment.
13:09:28 |\n| 19 business in the United States, including, like, as
13:06:14 | Q. What was the business plan in the beginning? 13:09:33
19 |\n| 20 I said, investment, real estate, and the business
13:06:21 | 20
A. Investment.
13:09:37 |\n| 21 he -- he was doing by then.
13:06:25 | 21
Q. Okay. In, I believe, you mentioned real
13:09:41 |\n| 22
Q. Where does Mr. Qiang Guo live today? What
13:06:28 | 22 estate.
13:09:48 |\n| 23 country?
13:06:33 | 23
What else?
13:09:48 |\n| 24
A. He lives in UK.
13:06:38
Q. How long has he lived there?
13:06:41
25 | 24
A. We started from real estate. There was real 13:09:49
25 estate, like, investment.
13:09:53 |\n\n30 (Pages 114 - 117)\n\n| | Q. Okay. So any other business purpose,
13:09:54 | I'd object on the -- on the grounds that I'm 13:13:18 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 besides investing money?
13:09:57 | 2 not sure that your use of the word client is -- is
13: 13:23 |\n| 3 | A. And operate as a family office in New York
13: 10:00 | 3 being understood.
13:13:25 |\n| | 4 here to support other family projects.
13:10:09 | Could you clarify that, please?
13:13:25
4 |\n| 5 | Q. Okay. You have mentioned earlier the
13:10:15 | MR. HARBACH: Sure.
13:13:29
5 |\n| | 6 support of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
13:10:19 | 6 BY MR. HARBACH:
13: 13:32 |\n| 7 | What other family projects has Golden Spring 13: 10:23 | Q. Ms. Wang, do you know what I mean by the
13: 13:33
7 |\n| | 8 (New York) Limited supported?
13:10:27 | 8 word client?
13:13:36 |\n| 9 | A. Including their project -- real estate.
13:10:29 | A. Client means that you offer services to get
13:13:39
9 |\n| | 10 Like, including, like, interviews and handouts. The
13:10:39 | 10 paid.
13:13:43 |\n| | 11 architecture, designer, like, real estate-related
13:10:45 | Q. Okay. A moment ago you said that the client 13: 13 :44
11 |\n| | 12 vendors, and then we, like, facilitate and coordinate 13:10:50 | 12 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was the family.
13:13:51 |\n| | 13 by them.
13:10:54 | Did you mean that in the sense that you just 13: 13: 5 5
13 |\n| 14 | Q. IsGoldenSpring(NewYork)Limiteda--
13:10:55 | 14 described, or did you mean that in a different way?
13: 13:59 |\n| | 15 afor-profitenterprise?
13:10:59 | A. I mean the client is the Guo family.
13:14:02
15 |\n| 16 | A. It is.
13: 11 :03 | 16 I mean, they -- they are, as I testified before,
13:14:06 |\n| 17 | Q. And what is its source of income?
13:11:03 | 17 like, a hundred family member. They all could be our 13: 14:12 |\n| 18 | A. Source of income? I mean, we are
13:11:08 | 18 clients. They are all business people.
13:14:15 |\n| 19 | a for-profit company, but we are not turning to,
13: 11: 16 | 19
Q. Okay.
13:14:18 |\n| | 20 like, make revenue yet; so the source of income is
13:11:23 | A. So as a client of Golden Spring, which
20
13:14:19 |\n| | 21 supposed to be, like, a -- we build up the project
13:11:26 | 21 I mean.
13:14:22 |\n| | 22 under the family plan, and then we start to make
13:11:31 | Q. Okay. Doyoumeanthatmembersofthe
22
13:14:23 |\n| | 23 profit from those projects -- investment projects.
13: 11 :36 | 23 family pay Golden Spring?
13:14:25 |\n| 24 | Q. Okay. So the -- the company invests money
13: 11 :40 | A. I mean if Golden Spring offered a service
24
13:14:31 |\n| | 25 and hopes to make money from investments.
13: 11 :43 | 25 and then helped them to invest successfully, yes.
13: 14:34 |\n| | Page 118 | Page 120 |\n| | | |\n| 1 | Is that it?
13: 11:47 | 1 Golden Spring would be paid.
13:14:39 |\n| 2 | A. That's part of the source of income, yes.
13:11:48 | Q. Okay. So now my question is is
13:14:40
2 |\n| | 3 Planned.
13:11:52 | 3 Mr.HoWanKwokpartofthefamilythatisaclient
13:14:45 |\n| 4 | Q. Does the -- does the company, Golden Spring
13:11:52 | 4 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited?
13:14:50 |\n| | 5 (New York) Limited, have any clients? Or is it just 13:11:57 | MR. ROSEN: Objection to form.
13:14:54
5 |\n| | 6 the family?
13:12:01 | It -- the -- is your question is he
13:14:58
6 |\n| 7 | A. I mean, family office typically, to our
13: 12:02 | 7 individually a client? Because what you asked is is
13:15:01 |\n| | 8 understanding, is support and serve for the family
13: 12:08 | 8 he part of the family that is a client.
13:15:05 |\n| | 9 business; so our clients are the family.
13: 12: 13 | MR. HARBACH: Well, I'm sorry for-- for--
13:15:08
9 |\n| 10 | Q. Okay. And that includes Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,
13:12:15 | 10 I'm really not meaning to be confusing.
13:15:11 |\n| | 11 does it not?
13:12:20 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:15:14 |\n| 12 | A. He is the person -- the owner of the company 13: 12:21 | 12
Q. I understood, Ms. Wang, you to say a moment
13:15:14 |\n| | 13 requesting Golden Spring to support; so Golden Spring 13: 12:28 | 13 ago that the family -- which is composed of numerous
13: 15: 17 |\n| | 14 does not, like, plan or, like, having profit from his 13:12:31 | 14 people, you said.
13:15:22 |\n| | 15 father, which, like, we didn'tthinkaboutthatand
13:12:39 | Thatthe family is a client of Golden Spring 13:15:22
15 |\n| | 16 how; right?
13:12:43 | 16 (New York) Limited; is that correct?
13: 15:26 |\n| 17 | Q. Well,youjustsaidamomentagothat
13:12:45 | 17
A. The family and their family member who are
13:15:29 |\n| | 18 Golden Spring (New York) limited's clients was the
13: 12:47 | 18 the business people; correct?
13: 15:36 |\n| | 19 family. And I ask you if that included
13:12:58 | They are the Golden Spring's clients. Of
19
13:15:37 |\n| | 20 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
13: 13:00 | 20 course, I don't mean that like in the minor kids;
13:15:40 |\n| 21 | The reason I asked that question is because
13: 13:01 | 21 right?
13:15:44 |\n| | 22 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the family, is he not? 13:13:04 22 | So I made that very clear.
13:15:44 |\n| 23 | A. So this is my answer. Golden Spring --
13:13:09 | Q. Is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok a member of that family?
23
13: 15:46 |\n| 24 | MR. ROSEN: Hold off answering, please, just 13:13:15
25 for a second.
13: 13: 18 | A. He is one of the family member, yes.
24
13:15:50
Q. To your knowledge, has Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever 13:15:53
25 |\n\n31 (Pages 118 - **121)**\n\n| 1 contributed or paid any money to Golden Spnng | I'm asking you whether there was anything |\n|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 13:16:06 | 13:18:58 |\n| 2 (New York) Limited? | 2 else. |\n| 13:16:11 | 13:19:00 |\n| 3 | A. As far as I know, like, that is all I know. |\n| A. No. | 13: 19:03 |\n| 13:16:13 | 3 |\n| 4 | 4 |\n| To my knowledge. | Q. Okay. |\n| 13:16:16 | 13:19:08 |\n| 5 | 5 |\n| Q. To your knowledge, has any business | A. That is the plan. I mean, as a family |\n| 13:16:17 | 13:19:09 |\n| 6 organization that 1Ar. Ho Wan Kwok owns or controls | 6 office -- right? -- we are supposed to do investment |\n| 13:16:26 | 13: 19: 12 |\n| 7 ever contributed any money to Golden Spring | 7 and make revenue -- make revenue. I mean, I am not |\n| 13:16:32 | 13:19: 15 |\n| 8 (New Yark) Limited? | 8 a law firm. I am not other, you know, service |\n| 13:16:36 | 13:19:18 |\n| l\\1R. ROSEN: Objection.
13:16:39
9 | 9 company. And then any other source of income
13:19:20 |\n| You can answer the question.
13:16:40
10 | 10 I should be expect.
13: 19:22 |\n| TI-IE WITNESS: To my knowledge, no. | Q. Does Golden Spring (New York) Limited have |\n| 13:16:42 | 13: 19:24 |\n| 11 | 11 |\n| 12 BY l\\1R. HARBACH | 12 any bank accounts? |\n| 13:16:45 | 13:19:28 |\n| Q. And you -- as the treasurer of Golden Spring 13: 16:49
13 | 13
A. You are asking which time apparent, sir?
13: 19:30 |\n| 14 (New York) Limited, would that be something you would 13:16:53 | 14
Q. I'm asking currently.
13:19:41 |\n| 15 expect to know ifit had happened?
13.16.56 | 15
A. Yes.
13:19:43 |\n| 16 | 16 |\n| A. Since I was -- | Q. How many? |\n| 13:16:59 | 13:19:43 |\n| 17 | 17 |\n| l\\1R. ROSEN. Object. | A. One. |\n| 13.17.03 | 13: 19:46 |\n| 18 | 18 |\n| You can answer. | Q. At which bank? |\n| 13:17:04 | 13:19:52 |\n| TI-IE WITNESS: Since I was appointed of | 19 |\n| 19 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. There are security |\n| 13:17:07 | 13:19:55 |\n| 20 treasurer of Golden Spring, I didn't see any money | 20 issues involved here, and we're -- I understand that |\n| 13:17: 11 | 13:19:59 |\n| 21 come from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok And Golden Spring doesn't 13:17:13 | 21 Golden Spring's bank accounts have been shut down as
13:20:06 |\n| 22 look at him as a client; so he is a family member,
13: 17: 17 | 22 part of what has been described to me as a harassment 13:20:09 |\n| 23 butheisnotourkindoflikeprospectiveclient. | 23 scheme; so I would ask at this point not to |\n| 13:17:21 | 13:20: 13 |\n| 24 He is the owner. He is the father of the owner, | 24 disclose --the witness not to disclose the location |\n| 13:17:25 | 13:20:16 |\n| 25 like, it -- that's our understandmg. | 25 of the bank account |\n| 13:17:31 | 13:20:19 |\n| Page 122 | Page 124 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| I BY MR. HARBACH:
13: 17:32
Q. He, in fact, is the owner, isn't he,
2
13:17:33 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Scott, I'm not meaning
13:20:20
2 to disregard your instruction. I'm going to ask
13:20:25 |\n| 3 Ms. Wang?
13:17:36 | 13:20:28 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Objection. | 3 another question, and if you want to include this |\n| 13: 17:37 | 4 under your objection, please do. But I'm going to |\n| 4 | 13:20:31 |\n| THE WITNESS: He is not the owner at all.
5
13: 17:38 | 5 ask this one.
13:20:34 |\n| 6 BY MR. HARBACH: | 6 BY MR. HARBACH: |\n| 13: 17:42 | 13:20:35 |\n| 7
Q. Were you an employee or a director or
13:17:46 | 7
Q. Ms. Wang, is Golden Spring (New York)'s bank 13:20:35 |\n| 13:17:53 | 8 account with a U.S. bank?
13:20:38 |\n| 8 officer of Golden Spring at the time that it was | A. Yes. |\n| 9 created? | 13:20:42 |\n| 13: 17:56 | 9 |\n| A You mean back to 2015, sir? | 10 |\n| 13:18:00 | Q. What is the approximate current balance in |\n| 10 | 13:20:43 |\n| Q. Yes. | 11 that account? |\n| 13:18:04 | 13:20:54 |\n| II
A No.
12
13:18:05 | 12
A. I mean, for the safety, same reason. I am
13:20:57 |\n| Q. Returning to my question about Golden Spring 13: 18:06 | 13 very hesitant to tell you because PAX already, like, |\n| 13 | 13:21:05 |\n| 14 (New York) Limited's source of income, is there | 14 harassed all Golden Spring's bank account. |\n| 13:18:16 | 13:21:09 |\n| 15 anything else in that category, other than returns on 13: 18:22 | 15
So we are talking about DIP loan; right?
13:21:14 |\n| 16 investment?
13: 18:26 | 16
Q. Well, yeah.
13:21:18 |\n| A What do you mean? Like any other source of 13: 18:28
17 | 17
You know the reasons that the -- that the
13 :21: 19 |\n| 18 income besides what I reply to you before?
13:18:38 | 18 deposition has been noticed, and I'm not going to get 13:21:21 |\n| Q. Yes.
13:18:41
19 | 19 into a debate with you about whether the question is
13 :21 :26 |\n| A Okay. So that would be our major source of 13:18:42 | 20 proper. |\n| 20 | 13:21:28 |\n| 21 income. Like, a family office -- I mean, in my
13: 18:45 | My question is what is the approximate
21
13:21:30 |\n| 22 understanding you already do investment; so when you | 22 balance in Golden Spring's one bank account in the |\n| 13: 18:51 | 13:21:33 |\n| 23 investment, you get revenue, and then we got paid, | 23 United States? |\n| 13:18:54 | 13:21:38 |\n| 24 and so we got
13:18:57 | 24
MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object and would
13:21:41 |\n| 25
Q. I understand that.
13:18:57 | 25 like, ifit is acceptable to counsel, to take a short 13:21:44 |\n\n32 (Pages 122 - 125)\n\n| | 1 recess to discuss this with my client.
13:21:50 | 1 finance department, they are doing that.
13:36:34 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. HARBACH: Of course. No problem at all. 13:21:52 | 2
Q. Well, you are the treasurer; right?
13:36:37 |\n| 3 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the
13:21:55 | 3
MR. ROSEN: Excuse me. I thought this was
13:36:40 |\n| | 4 record.
13:21:56 | 4 questions setting aside the bank account. The
13 :36:42 |\n| 5 | The time is 1 :21.
13:21 :56 | 5 question was what is -- what are the values of the
13:36:45 |\n| 6 | (Short recess taken.)
13:22:00 | 6 liquid assets, setting aside the bank account.
13:36:47 |\n| 7 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
13:33:59 | 7
MR. HARBACH: Yeah. I meant -- and I can't 13:36:50 |\n| | 8 record.
13:34:01 | 8 believe I said -- if! didn't, I'm mistaken. I meant 13 :36: 53 |\n| 9 | The time is 1:34.
13:34:01 | 9 the identity ofthe bank. I'm not -- I'm not
13:36:56 |\n| 10 | MR. HARBACH: Scott, did you want to put
13:34:06 | 10 interested in getting the identification of the bank. 13:36:59 |\n| | 11 anything on the record here or no?
13:34: 11 | 11 I'm just trying to figure out how much money
13:37:02 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN: No.
13:34: 14 | 12 Golden Spring (New York) Limited has. That's it.
13:37:05 |\n| 13 | I did not need to put anything on the
13:34: 15 | 13 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:37:02 |\n| | 14 record.
13:34:18 | 14
Q. How much money does the company have? Do
13:37: 11 |\n| | 15 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:34:18 | 15 you know?
13:37: 13 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. Ms. Wang, did you speak with anyone
13:34: 19 | A. The money enough to support all of the daily 13:37: 14
16 |\n| | 17 else during the break, besides your lawyer?
13:34:21 | 17 operation.
13:37:18 |\n| 18 | A I only talked with Mr. Scott Rosen.
13:34:23 | 18
Q. Are you -- are you unwilling to tell me how
13:37: 18 |\n| 19 | Q. Okay. Thank you.
13 :34:25 | 19 much money Golden Spring has or do you not know how
13:37:2\\$ |\n| 20 | The pending question before the break was
13:34:26 | 20 much money Golden Spring has?
13:37:27 |\n| | 21 what is the approximate balance in Golden Spring
13:34:31 | MR.ROSEN: Yeah. 1--Ihavetoobject
21
13:37:29 |\n| | 22 (New York) Limited's one U.S. bank account?
13:34:37 | 22 here. There are concerns about the integrity and
13:37:31 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object and instruct 13:34:45 | 23 usability of Golden Spring's assets in light of
13:37:36 |\n| | 24 the witness not to answer that specific question
13:34:47 | 24 creditor activity that has been conducted by PAX; so
13:37:41 |\n| | 25 because of Golden Spring's concerns about maintaining 13:34:50 | 25 these are --these are sensitive issues. If-- if
13:37:46 |\n| | Page 126 | Page 128 |\n| | | |\n| | I the integrity and usability of the bank account in
13:34:54 | I you want to get to questions about where is the loan
13:37:50 |\n| | 2 light of credits' rights actions that have been taken 13:34:58 | 2 proceeds going to come from, then we can -- we can
13:37:52 |\n| | 3 by -- by PAX.
13:35:03 | 3 certainly go there. But with respect to its current
13:37:56 |\n| | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:35:05 | 4 assets, at this point the credit just -- just
13:38:00 |\n| 5 | Q. Leaving aside the identity of the bank,
13:35:06 | 5 outweighs any -- any -- any relevancy.
13:38:06 |\n| | 6 approximately how much value in liquid assets does
13:35:11 | MR.HARBACH: 1--Ithinklunderstandyour 13:38:10
6 |\n| | 7 Golden Spring (New York) Limited own?
13:35:20 | 7 objection, and rather than engage it fully, I will
13:38: 13 |\n| 8 | A Golden Spring as -- I mean, enough funds to
13:35:23 | 8 just note that we strongly disagree. But if you are
13:38: 16 |\n| | 9 support Golden Spring, the operation. I mean, we
13 :35 :33 | 9 instructing the witness not to answer, I'll try and
13:38:20 |\n| | 10 don't have cash flow issue, so
13:35:37 | 10 move on.
13:38:23 |\n| 11 | Q. All right. And your judgment about what
13:35:40 | MR. ROSEN: Thank you.
13:38:24
11 |\n| | 12 might be a cash flow issue and our judgment about
13:35:44 | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:38:26 |\n| | 13 what might be a cash flow issue and Judge Manning's
13:35:48 | Q. Approximately how much profit did
13:38:32
13 |\n| | 14 judgment about what might be a cash flow issue could
13:35:54 | 14 Golden Spring (New York) make in the last year?
13:38:35 |\n| | 15 be three very different things.
13:35:57 | A. Because of the -- the entire, like, PAX --
13:38:41
15 |\n| 16 | And so that is why I'm asking approximately
13:35:59 | 16 right?-- this case, I mean, PAX obviously subpoenaed 13:38:49 |\n| | 17 how much money in liquid assets does Golden Spring
13 :36:03 | 17 all Golden Spring's bank. And then in my
13:38:53 |\n| | 18 (New York) Limited own?
13:36:09 | 18 understanding, my console device, like, PAX didn't
13:38:57 |\n| 19 | A The balance is changing every day because
13:36: 12 | 19 get anything; so -- because PAX specifically hurt our 13:39:01 |\n| | 20 things happen every day; so I don't want to
13:36: 19 | 20 bank relationship in the last year, as you said,
13:39:05 |\n| | 21 speculate. Obviously, I did not check the bank
13:36:22 | 21 I mean, we didn't make profit last year.
13:39:07 |\n| | 22 balance right now; so I cannot say.
13:36:25 | 22
Q. You did not make a profit last year?
13:39:10 |\n| 23 | Q. What -- what -- when -- when was the last
13:36:27 | 23
A. Correct.
13:39: 14 |\n| | 24 time you checked the balance?
13:36:29 | 24
MR. ROSEN: Objection.
13:39: 16 |\n| 25 | A I don't recall. It is the financial --
13:36:30 | 25 Ill |\n\n33 (Pages 126 - 129)\n\n| | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:39:17 | 1 | Q. Okay. Do you know what DIP stands for?
13:42:19 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. Was there a -- was there a loss of -- of--
13:39:18 | 2 | A. Yes.
13:42:27 |\n| | 3 there was a loss of approximately how much last year? 13:39:20 | 3 | Q. What does it stand for?
13:42:29 |\n| | 4 Do you understand the question?
13:39:33 | 4 | A. It is a DIP loan displaying between --
13:42:31 |\n| 5 | A. Of course.
13:39:34 | | 5 I mean, I'm not a lawyer; right?
13:42:42 |\n| 6 | Q. So what is --
13:39:37 | 6 | It is a loan between the lender and the
13:42:43 |\n| 7 | A. But I don't know why it is related to this
13:39:38 | | 7 debtor.
13:42:48 |\n| | 8 as well. It is sensitive information, which I have
13:39:42 | 8 | Q. Thirty seconds ago you said to me that you
13:42:49 |\n| | 9 to keep it.
13:39:44 | | 9 know what DIP stands for. It is okay if you don't.
13:42:53 |\n| 10 | Q. You are -- so you are -- you are -- you are
13:39:45 | | 10 I'm just asking for an honest answer.
13:43:00 |\n| | 11 unwilling to answer what the size of Golden Spring
13:39:46 | 11 | Do you know what DIP stands for? It is an
13 :43:04 |\n| | 12 (New York) Limited's loss was last year; is that
13:39:51 | | 12 acronym.
13:43:09 |\n| | 13 right?
13:39:57 | 13 | A. It is a loan. It is a loan. That's my
13:43:09 |\n| 14 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. This is not an asset 13:39:57 | | 14 answer.
13:43:13 |\n| | 15 disclosure deposition for Golden Spring. And -- and
13:40:01 | 15 | Q. Okay. It stands for debtor in possession.
13:43:13 |\n| | 16 in light of the pending litigation that is already
13:40:03 | 16 | Okay?
13:43:17 |\n| | 17 out there, questions like this are overstepping what
13:40:05 | 17 | It is not a secret, but -- I'll keep going.
13:43:19 |\n| | 18 the scope of this deposition is supposed to be,
13:40:09 | 18 | Who made the request to Golden Spring
13 :43:26 |\n| | 19 which, again, this is a contested matter in
13:40:11 | | 19 (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing that is 13:43:32 |\n| | 20 a bankruptcy case for a DIP loan, which is being
13:40: 15 | | 20 at issue here?
13:43:37 |\n| | 21 granted on a fully subordinated basis; so that's --
13 :40: 19 | 21 | A. The owner of Golden Spring (New York).
13:43:39 |\n| | | | Q. The owner of Golden Spring (New York) made |\n| | 22 that is what we are here today on, not asset
13:40:23 | 22 | 13:43:44 |\n| | 23 disclosure.
13:40:27 | | 23 a request to Golden Spring (New York) for DIP
13:43:52 |\n| 24 | MR. HARBACH: Is that an instruction not to
13:40:34 | | 24 financing? Is that your testimony?
13:43:57 |\n| | 25 answer, Scott?
13:40:36
Page 130 | 25 | A. I don't understand your question.
13:44:00
Page 132 |\n| | | | |\n| | MR. ROSEN: Yes, it is.
13:40:37 | I | Q. Whoaskedfortheloan?
13:44:05 |\n| | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:40:39 | 2 | A. I was not involved in this loan negotiation. 13:44:10 |\n| 3 | Q. Who made the requests to Golden Spring
13:40:39 | 3 | Q. Do you know who made the request for the
13:44:15 |\n| | 4 (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing?
13:40:42 | | 4 loan?
13:44:20 |\n| 5 | A. I -- can I ask a translator to help me
13:40:47 | 5 | A. I was not involved in the negotiation of
13:44:22 |\n| | 6 understand this question?
13:40:53 | | 6 this loan. I just got instruction and advice from
13 :44:28 |\n| 7 | Q. Of course.
13:40:55 | | 7 the owner of Golden Spring.
13:44:32 |\n| 8 | MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, I'll repeat it.
13:40:56 | 8 | Q. Okay. Is the answer to this question -- is
13:44:34 |\n| 9 | Who made the request to Golden Spring
13:41:00 | | 9 the answer to my question you don't know?
13:44:39 |\n| | 10 (New York) Limited for debtor-in-possession
13:41:02 | 10 | A. I was not involved.
13:44:41 |\n| | 11 financing?
13:41:09 | 11 | Q. You know what? Let's use the interpreter.
13 :44:42 |\n| 12 | THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)
13:41:42 | 12 | MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, can you -- well, 13:44:48 |\n| 13 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Can the check | | 13 :41 :42 13 let's do it this way.
13:44:53 |\n| | 14 interpreter help with that term?
13:41:45 | | 14 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:44:57 |\n| 15 | THE INTERPRETER: Sure.
13:41:48 | 15 | Q. Do you know who made the request to
13:44:57 |\n| 16 | THE WITNESS: From the interpreter
13:41:55 | | 16 Golden Spring (New York) Limited for the loan that is 13:44:59 |\n| | 17 understanding, it is debtor's loan; right? Debtor's
13:41:57 | | 17 the subject of today's deposition?
13:45:03 |\n| | 18 position. Debtor's loan.
13:42:01 | 18 | A. I don't have personal knowledge.
13:45:09 |\n| | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:42:01 | 19 | Q. Has anyone told you who made the loan-- who 13:45:11 |\n| 20 | Q. Well, Ms. -- Ms. Wang, on several occasions
13:42:01 | | 20 made the request for the loan that is the subject of 13:45: 19 |\n| | 21 today you have pointed out to me that we are here to
13: 42 :03 | | 21 today's deposition?
13:45:22 |\n| | 22 talk about a DIP loan.
13:42:09 | 22 | A. Has anyone told me?
13:45:24 |\n| 23 | Do you know what a DIP loan is?
13:42:10 | 23 | Q. Well, you said you didn't have personal
13:45:31 |\n| 24 | A. Yes.
13:42:15 | | 24 knowledge.
13:45:33 |\n| 25 | It is a loan between the debtor and lender.
13:42: 16 | 25 | A. Yes.
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Q. And I know what that -- and I know what that 13:45:35 | | 1
A. Golden Spring has been the litigation
13:48:49 | |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--|\n| 2 means. | 13:45:39 | 2 funding for Mr. Qiang Guo's father, I mean, for
13:48:56 | |\n| 3
So I am asking you whether you have ever | 13:45:39 | 3 several years. Mr. Qiang Guo made the decision,
13:49:01 | |\n| 4 learned from anyone else who made the request for the 13 :45 :42 | | 4 given the short time apparent. As the president of
13:49:05 | |\n| 5 loan that is the subject of today's deposition. | 13:45:45 | 5 the company, I am aligned with that, and he knew and
13:49:09 | |\n| A. I heard this from Mr. Qiang Guo about his
6 | 13:45:53 | 6 he knows I am going to align with that.
13:49:13 | |\n| 7 DIP loan. | 13:45:58 | Q. I see.
13:49:15
7 | |\n| Q. Who did he say requested the DIP loan?
8 | 13:45:59 | A. So no need --
13:49:16
8 | |\n| A. He mentioned his father -- his father's
9 | 13 :46:05 | Q. And is that --
13:49:16
9 | |\n| 10 attorney. | 13:46:16 | A. No need to argue that, yeah, if that is what 13:49: 17
10 | |\n| Q. Do you recall that attorney's name?
11 | 13:46:17 | 11 you are looking for.
13:49:20 | |\n| A. I don't recall. He didn't tell me, and
12 | 13:46:20 | Q. I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- you know, I'm not
13:49:21
12 | |\n| 13 I don't recall. | 13:46:23 | 13 trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to
13:49:22 | |\n| Q. When was that request made, if you know?
14 | 13:46:24 | 14 understand what happened.
13:49:25 | |\n| A. In March.
15 | 13:46:33 | And so how about this?
13:49:28
15 | |\n| Q. Of what year?
16 | 13:46:41 | 16
You understand that litigation funding in
13:49:31 | |\n| A. Of this year.
17 | 13:46:43 | 17 the past that Golden Spring may have provided to
13 :49:37 | |\n| | | | |\n| 18
Q. Were you -- as president, secretary, | 13:46:45 | 18 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is different from the DIP loan that
13:49:46 | |\n| 19 treasurer, and director of Golden Spring (New York) | 13:46:53 | 19 we are talking about today? You understand that
13:49:49 | |\n| 20 Limited -- involved in the decision about whether to | 13 :46: 58 | 20 those are two different things; right?
13:49:51 | |\n| 21 provide DIP financing to the debtor? | 13:47:03 | A. Correct.
13:49:54
21 | |\n| A. I was advised by Mr. Qiang Guo afterwards.
22 | 13:47:06 | Q. Okay. And so I would like to focus just on
22
13:49:54 | |\n| 23 That was a quite short time period. And he handled; | 13:47:16 | 23 the DIP loan and not litigation financing that may
13:49:58 | |\n| 24 so the answer to you is I was not involved. | 13:47:24 | 24 have occurred in the past.
13:50:03 | |\n| 25
Q. Were you consulted by Mr. Guo -- | 13:47:27
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Do you understand?
13:50:05
Page 136 | |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| I Mr. Qiang Guo on the decision about whether | 13:47:32 | A. Yes.
13:50:06
I | |\n| 2 Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP | 13:47:36 | Q. Okay. And so do I have it right that
13:50:10
2 | |\n| 3 financing to the debtor here? | 13:47:40 | 3 according to you, the decision about whether to agree 13:50: 13 | |\n| 4
A. What do you mean, consulted? | 13:47:42 | 4 to the DIP loan for the debtor was Mr. Qiang Guo's
13:50:20 | |\n| 5
Q. Do you know what consulted means? | 13:47:45 | 5 decision? Correct?
13:50:27 | |\n| A. Of course I know.
6 | 13:47:48 | A. He made a decision, obviously on behalf of
6
13:50:34 | |\n| 7
Q. Okay. So were you consulted by | 13:47:49 | 7 Golden Spring, and he is the owner of the company.
13:50:41 | |\n| 8 Mr. Qiang Guo about the decision on whether | 13:47:53 | 8 And we're aligned.
13:50:43 | |\n| 9 Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP | 13:47:59 | 9
Q. Okay. And you are the president, and all
13:50:45 | |\n| 10 financing to the debtor? | 13:48:03 | 10 those other titles, of Golden Spring (New York)
13:50:49 | |\n| II
A. You mean he -- when he was making the | 13:48:05 | 11 Limited; correct?
13:50:52 | |\n| 12 decision? | 13:48:08 | A. Correct.
13:50:58
12 | |\n| Q. Well, we're going to get to who made the
13 | 13:48:09 | Q. Have you ever disagreed with Mr. Qiang Guo
13:50:59
13 | |\n| 14 decision. I'm trying to figure out whether you were | 13:48:14 | 14 about a decision that he has made?
13:51:02 | |\n| 15 involved and, ifso, how. You told me a couple of | 13:48:18 | A. Yes, of course.
15
13:51:03 | |\n| 16 minutes ago that you were not involved with the | 13:48:23 | 16
Q. Okay. And did he solicit your agreement for 13:51:06 | |\n| 17 decision. | 13:48:25 | 17 this decision?
13:51:08 | |\n| I'm asking if Mr. Qiang Guo spoke to you
18 | 13:48:26 | 18
A. For this DIP loan decision, you mean?
13:51:09 | |\n| 19 about the decision. | 13:48:30 | 19
Q. Uh-huh.
13:51:13 | |\n| 20
A. Yes. | 13:48:33 | 20
A. No.
13:51:14 | |\n| He spoke to me about the decision.
21 | 13:48:34 | 21
Why?
13:51:19 | |\n| 22
Q. Before he made it or after? | 13:48:36 | 22
Q. He just -- he told you --
13:51:20 | |\n| 23
A. After. | 13:48:40 | 23
A. Why?
13:51:21 | |\n| 24
Q. And am I right that the decision was his,
25 not yours? Correct? | 13:48:41
13:48:47 | 24
Q. He told you -- he told you about it after he 13:51:22
25 had made a decision; correct?
13:51:24 | |\n\n35 (Pages 134 - 137)\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 398-1 Filed 04/27/22 Entered 05/19/22 11:20:43 Page 37 of 95\n\n| 1 | A. He briefed me what happened.
13:51:26 | 1
Do you talk to him twenty times a day?
13:54: 16 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. What did he tell you?
13:51:30 | 2
A. Obviously not.
13:54:19 |\n| 3 | A. About this DIP loan, and then he didn't have 13:51 :31 | Q. Well, it is not obvious because you won't
13:54:20
3 |\n| | 4 enough time within the short limit of time. He took
13:51:38 | 4 answer the question.
13:54:22 |\n| | 5 care of that.
13:51:42 | How often do you speak to him?
13:54:23
5 |\n| 6 | Q. Okay.
13:51:43 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.
13:54:27
6 |\n| 7 | A. So he always advise me with something in the 13:51:44 | THE WITNESS: As needed.
13:54:28
7 |\n| | 8 short limit of time or urgency kind of like it.
13:51:47 | MR. ROSEN: Counsel, please specify a time
13:54:29
8 |\n| 9 | Q. Okay.
13:51:51 | 9 frame.
13:54:32 |\n| 10 | A. And then he took it like that. He briefed
13:51:52 | 10
MR. HARBACH: Sure.
13:54:33 |\n| | 11 me. That's it.
13:51:56 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:54:34 |\n| 12 | Q. Okay. And I will ask you one more time what 13:51 :57 | 12
Q. From the moment you learned about the DIP
13:54:34 |\n| | 13 he said when he briefed you, and then I'll -- I'll
13:52:01 | 13 loan from some attorney until today, how frequently
13:54:37 |\n| | 14 try this another way.
13:52:04 | 14 have you spoken with Mr. Kwok Ho Wan?
13:54:44 |\n| 15 | A. Okay.
13:52:06 | A. Oh, I think I met him, like, more than
13:54:51
15 |\n| 16 | Q. What did he say when he briefed you, if you
13:52:06 | 16 a week ago -- a week ago.
13:54:55 |\n| | 17 remember? I mean, this was, what, a month ago?
13:52:09 | 17
Q. Okay. That's one time.
13:54:58 |\n| 18 | A. So what are you asking about? Like, when
13: 5 2: 14 | Any other times you can think of?
13:55:04
18 |\n| | 19 the brief happened or the DIP loan happened, sir?
13:52:16 | A. I don't recall.
13:55:07
19 |\n| 20 | Q. Fifteen seconds ago you told me a couple of 13:52: 18 | 20
Q. On that one occasion that you do recall, did 13:55:10 |\n| | 21 times that Mr. Qiang Guo briefed you.
13:52:22 | 21 you discuss the DIP loan with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
13:55:15 |\n| 22 | Do you remember that?
13:52:26 | 22
A. No.
13:55: 19 |\n| 23 | A. Yes.
13:52:27 | 23
Q. When you saw Mr. Kwok most recently-- you
13:55:40 |\n| 24 | Q. What did he say when he briefed you?
13:52:28 | 24 said it was about a week ago -- was that in the
13:55:45 |\n| 25 | A. He said he retained attorney and worked
13:52:32 | 25 Golden Spring (New York) offices?
13:55:48 |\n| | Page 138 | Page 140 |\n| | | |\n| | I together with the lenders' attorney and then -- to
13:52:45 | I
A. Yes.
13:55:52 |\n| | 2 take care of the DIP loan. And that is what he told
13:52:48 | Q. Okay. Do you recall what you did discuss
13:55:52
2 |\n| | 3 me.
13:52:53 | 3 with him on that occasion?
13:55:56 |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. Was that the first time you had heard 13:52:53 | A. We just -- like, I send my regards, like,
13:55:58
4 |\n| | 5 about the DIP loan?
13:52:57 | 5 social.
13:56:09 |\n| 6 | A. No.
13:52:59 | 6
And he asked, are you doing good; right?
13:56:10 |\n| 7 | Q. Who was the first person you heard about it 13:53:01 | 7
So that's it, yeah.
13:56:13 |\n| | 8 from?
13:53:05 | 8
We chat -- and he chat whether I am safe,
13:56:14 |\n| 9 | A. I heard from the attorneys -- our attorneys. 13:53:06 | 9 and I did the same. That's it. We didn't -- we
13:56: 17 |\n| 10 | Q. Okay. Before this conversation with
13:53:10 | 10 didn't chat about other stuff. I don't -- we didn't. 13:56:20 |\n| | 11 Qiang Guo?
13:53: 13 | Q. Okay. And that was it, just -- just, like,
13:56:23
11 |\n| 12 | A. Correct. Yes.
13:53:14 | 12 hi, how are you, that sort of thing?
13:56:26 |\n| 13 | Q. Have you ever spoken with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
13:53:23 | A. Yes.
13:56:29
13 |\n| | 14 about the DIP loan ever?
13:53:26 | 14
Obviously he was here, I believe, like,
13:56:29 |\n| 15 | A. I don't recall.
13:53:29 | 15 meeting his attorneys. And I -- because this is my
13:56:33 |\n| 16 | Q. Is it possible that you have?
13:53:32 | 16 office; so I arranged the office, like, you know,
13:56:39 |\n| 17 | A. Unlikely. I don't recall.
13:53:36 | 17 like, take care of them; like, you know, arrange
13:56:44 |\n| 18 | Q. How often do you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 13:53:48 18 their food and coffee, those kinds of stuff; so my | 13:56:46 |\n| 19 | A. Oh, we meet as needed.
13:53:51 | 19 office did that for them.
13:56:49 |\n| 20 | Q. A few times a week?
13:53:56 | 20
Q. Your office or you?
13:56:51 |\n| 21 | A. As needed.
13:54:00 | A. My office. I instructed my office to do
21
13:56:52 |\n| 22 | Q. More or less than a few times a week?
13:54:02 | 22 that.
13:56:58 |\n| 23 | A. As needed.
13:54:07 | 23
Q. Okay. You have -- in your capacity as
13:56:58 |\n| 24 | Q. I mean, as needed could be twenty times
13:54:11 | 24 president and so forth of Golden Spring --you know
13:57: 16 |\n| | 25 a day, Ms. Wang.
13:54: 14
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13:57:20
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I don't really know that.
13:57:23
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14:00:32 |\n|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
Okay.
13:57:25
Q. | Q. Did Mr. Qiang Guo ever tell you how the
14:00:32
2 |\n| What means so forth?
13:57:26
3
A. | 3 \\$8 million figure was arrived at?
14:00:35 |\n| Q.
Sure.
13:57:27
4 | 4
A. (In English) No.
14:00:38 |\n| I mean all those other titles, president,
13:57:29
5 | Q. Are you familiar with the terms of the DIP
14:00:52
5 |\n| 6 secretary, treasurer, director.
13:57:33 | 6 loan?
14:01:00 |\n| You hold all four titles; right?
13:57:35
7 | A. You just asked me, yes. Now, yes.
14:01:01
7 |\n| 8
A. Correct.
13:57:37 | MR. HARBACH: Let's use the interpreter,
14:01: 11
8 |\n| Q. Okay. And you are the only president;
13:57:38
9 | 9 please.
14:01:13 |\n| 10 correct?
13:57:40 | Ms. Johnston, could you please ask: Are you 14:01: 15
10 |\n| A. Correct.
13:57:41
11 | 11 familiar with the terms of the DIP loan?
14:01:19 |\n| Q. The only treasurer; correct?
13:57:42
12 | 12
THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
14:01:34 |\n| A. Yes.
13:57:44
13 | 13
THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)
14:01:34 |\n| Q. Okay. And what decisions are you empowered
13:57:44
14 | 14 This was my first time involved in this matter; so
14:0 I: 50 |\n| 15 to make in those roles without Qiang Guo's
13:58:00 | 15 I know it was a loan. But! am unfamiliar with the
14:01:54 |\n| 16 permission?
13:58:06 | 16 terms.
14:01:58 |\n| A. I make most of the daily operation decisions 13:58:06
17 | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:02:05 |\n| 18 in here. Of course, I will brief him when we meet or 13:58: 15 | Q. Have you read the DIP loan agreement?
14:02:05
18 |\n| 19 chat, but I made the, like, daily operation decision
13:58:19 | A. (In English) Briefly, I went through, yes.
14:02:08
19 |\n| 20 by myself in here.
13:58:25 | 20
Q. When was that?
14:02:17 |\n| Q. How much is the -- the DIP loan that is at
13:58:26
21 | 21
A. You mean when or what?
14:02: 18 |\n| 22 issue in this case?
13:58:29 | 22
Q. I'm sorry.
14:02:23 |\n| 23
A. The DIP loan is \\$8 million U.S.
13:58:30 | 23
When? When did you go through it briefly?
14:02:24 |\n| 24
Q. And who did you learn that from?
13:58:39 | 24
A. Oh, when I was -- I prepped with the
14:02:28 |\n| A. Who did I got this from? From
13:58:41
25 | 25 counsels, I believe.
14:02:35 |\n| Page 142 | Page 144 |\n| I Mr. Qiang Guo.
13:58:46 | Q. Okay. And how long ago was that?
14:02:36
I |\n| Q. Okay. Do you know where the \\$8 million
13:58:46
2 | A. l'msorry.
14:02:40
2 |\n| 3 figure came from?
13:58:54 | 3
What was your question? How long ago was
14:02:44 |\n| 4
A. When Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, he advise he
13:58:55 | 4 that?
14:02:47 |\n| 5 will take care of that also, as we always did. Like
13:59:06 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
14:02:47
5 |\n| 6 the fund; like, for example, like, you asked did his
13:59:10 | I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- I'm not interested in
14:02:49
6 |\n| 7 father ask for buy something, like, he will -- I have 13:59: 14 | 7 what any of the attorneys told you, but I am
14:02:51 |\n| 8 to escalate for him. He will make a decision for him 13:59: 17 | 8 interested in when you met with them.
14:02:54 |\n| | |\n| 9 that way.
13:59:21 | 9
So when was it that you read the DIP loan
14:02:56 |\n| Q. I'm trying to understand, if you know, how
13:59:22
10 | 10 agreement?
14:03:00 |\n| II the figure of\\$8 million was arrived at.
13:59:29 | A. When, you ask; right?
14:03:01
11 |\n| MR. ROSEN: Could we have the -- the
13:59:33
12 | 12
Q. Correct.
14:03:03 |\n| 13 interpreter on that?
13:59:35 | A. Before this deposition. Yesterday.
14:03:04
13 |\n| I believe the witness may have misunderstood 13:59:36
14 | 14
Q. Yesterday?
14:03:10 |\n| 15 the question the first time.
13:59:39 | A. Yes.
14:03:13
15 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Sure.
13:59:41
16 | Q. Was -- was yesterday the first time you saw
14:03:14
16 |\n| 17
Ms. Johnston, do you need me to repeat it?
13:59:42 | 17 the DIP loan agreement?
14:03: 19 |\n| THE INTERPRETER: Yes, please.
13:59:47
18 | 18
A. I know it existed before yesterday, but
14:03:23 |\n| 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
13:59:48 | 19 I didn't pay too much of attention until my attorney, 14:03:28 |\n| | |\n| Q. Ms. Wang, I'm asking if you know how the
20
13:59:49 | 20 like, prepped me.
14:03:34 |\n| 21 \\$8 million figure was arrived at.
13:59:55 | 21
Q. Was yesterday the first day you saw the DIP
14:03:36 |\n| 22
THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
13:59:55 | 22 loan agreement?
14:03:40 |\n| THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)
14:00:17
23 | 23
A. I didn't recall. I may have seen that
14:03:43 |\n| 24 I was not involved in how the \\$8 million was arrived; 14:00:22
25 so I do not have any personal knowledge.
14:00:28 | 24 before, but I couldn't recall.
14:03:46
MR. HARBACH: Scott, this question is not
25
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THE WITNESS: Ah, okay. Again, not my
14:07:39 |\n|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 you will understand why I am asking it.
14:04:01 | 2 native language.
14:07:41 |\n| 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:04:03 | 3
So Mr. Qiang Guo advised me, and he is
14:07:42 |\n| 4
Q. Ms. Wang, when you met with the attorneys
14:04:04 | 4 taking care of that also. Because this attorney
14:07:46 |\n| 5 yesterday, was there an interpreter available to help 14:04:06 | 5 based in UK; so like, where Mr. Qiang Guo is at. He
14:07:52 |\n| 6 you?
14:04:09 | 6 will take care. For Golden Spring, we didn't receive 14:07:56 |\n| 7
A. No.
14:04: 13 | 7 invoice yet. Probably will come, but I didn't see
14:08:00 |\n| 8
Q. When you read the DIP loan agreement
14:04:18 | 8 thatyet.
14:08:03 |\n| 9 yesterday, did you understand it?
14:04:21 | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:08:04 |\n| A. I know it is a loan. It is 8 million, and
10
14:04:31 | Q. So when Mr. Qiang Guo told you that he would 14:08:04
10 |\n| 11 interest is at 5 percent and subject to the court to
14:04:34 | 11 take care of it, you understood that to mean that
14:08:07 |\n| 12 approve by the end.
14:04:38 | 12 Golden Spring (New York) would pay for her services;
14:08: 10 |\n| Q. Okay. Do you know anything else about the
14:04:42
13 | 13 is that right?
14:08:14 |\n| 14 conditions that are attached to the loan?
14:04:46 | 14
A. That is my understanding. For
14:08: 15 |\n| A. I learned from the reading it is kind of
15
14:04:51 | 15 Golden Spring, like, we didn't receive invoice. If
14:08:21 |\n| 16 like a 50 percent pay the lender -- no. The debtors
14:04:55 | 16 we receive that invoice, we will take care of that.
14:08:23 |\n| 17 professional. Another 50 percent is going to pay
14:05:00 | 17
Q. Okay. Are there any other current officers
14:08:26 |\n| 18 U.S. Trustee and the other attorney related.
14:05:05 | 18 and directors of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,
14:08:50 |\n| Q. Areyoufamiliarwiththetermeventsof
19
14:05:10 | 19 besides you and Qiang Guo?
14:08:57 |\n| 20 default?
14:05: 14 | 20
A. No.
14:09:03 |\n| A. You mean in this DIP loan agreement?
14:05:15
21 | 21
Only me and him.
14:09:03 |\n| 22
Q. Yes, ma'am.
14:05:21 | 22
Q. Okay. Am I right that there was a time,
14:09:05 |\n| 23
A. I didn't pay attention about that.
14:05:22 | 23 a few months in 2020, when you were replaced as
14:09: 14 |\n| Q. Do you know what any of the events of
24
14:05:25 | 24 president by someone named Daniel Podhaskie,
14:09:23 |\n| 25 default that are in this DIP loan agreement are?
14:05:29 | 25 P-o-d-h-a-s-k-i-e? Is that right?
14:09:27 |\n| Page 146 | Page 148 |\n| A. Can I have, like, interpreter help me on
14:05:32
I | A. Correct.
14:09:37
I |\n| | |\n| | |\n| 2 this? Because it is about this DIP loan details.
14:05:40 | Q. It looks like Mr. Podhaskie was in those
2
14:09:38 |\n| 3
Q. Ofcourse. Ofcourse.
14:05:44 | 3 roles for a little less than two months.
14:09:49 |\n| 4
MR. HARBACH: I'll repeat it for
14:05:46 | 4
Does that sound about right to you?
14:09:53 |\n| 5 Ms. Johnston.
14:05:49 | 5
A. Yes.
14:09:55 |\n| 6 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:05:51 | 6
Q. Okay. And why was it that he replaced you
14:09: 58 |\n| Q. Doyouknowwhatanyoftheeventsof
7
14:05:51 | 7 for those couple of months?
14:10:02 |\n| 8 default in this DIP loan agreement are?
14:05:53 | A. Because I -- I was -- I had personal issue
8
14:10:04 |\n| 9
THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
14:05:53 | 9 by then, which I couldn't perform as my job as duty.
14: 10: 13 |\n| THEWITNESS:Idon'trecall.
14:06:10
10 | 10
Q. I see.
14:10:20 |\n| II BY MR. HARBACH:
14:06:10 | And when that personal issue was resolved,
14: 10:21
11 |\n| Q. Youdon'trecalloryoudon'tknow?
12
14:06:10 | 12 youreturned--
14:10:25 |\n| A. I don't recall.
14:06:15
13 | A. That's right.
14:10:28
13 |\n| Q. Do you know who Arethusa Forsyth is?
14:06:17
14 | 14
Q. -- is that right?
14: 10:29 |\n| 15 A-r-e-t-h-u-s-a, last name F, like Frank,
14:06:50 | A. Yes. That's right.
14:10:30
15 |\n| 16 o-r-s-y-t-h.
14:06:58 | 16
Q. Okay. Did you have a briefing with
14: 10:31 |\n| 17
Do you know who that person is?
14:07:00 | 17 Mr.Podhaskiewhenyoucamebackonthejob?
14:10:50
18 |\n| A. This is attorney retained by Mr. Qiang Guo
14:07:04
18 | A. I don't recall.
14:10:59 |\n| 19 work on this DIP loan.
14:07:09 | Q. Okay. Do you recall, in any conversations
14: 11 :02
19 |\n| 20
Q. Did you have any -- withdrawn.
14:07:10 | 20 with Mr. Podhaskie, whether he was in contact with
14:11:08 |\n| Do you know how Attorney Forsyth is being
14:07: 16
21 | 21 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
14:11:14 |\n| 22 paid?
14:07:28 | 22
A. No.
14:11:19 |\n| A. I'm sorry.
14:07:29
23 | 23
I don't recall. We just handed over, like,
14: 11:22 |\n| 24
Interpreter, can I have some support?
14:07:30
THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
14:07:30
25 | 24 the daily operation work. I mean, I don't recall
14: 11 :31
25 anything more than that.
14: 11:35 |\n\n38 (Pages 146 - 149)\n\n| | Q. To your knowledge, is Mr. Podhaskie
14:11:36 | 1
A. Less than two years ago.
14: 14:53 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 currently, as of today, working for Golden Spring
14:11:45 | 2
Q. Okay.
14:15:05 |\n| | 3 (New York)?
14:11:48 | 3
A. Less than -- closer to two years.
14:15:11 |\n| 4 | A. No.
14:11:48 | Q. Approximately two years ago?
4
14:15:14 |\n| 5 | Q. Who is the current general counsel of
14: 11:50 | 5
A. Yes.
14:15:17 |\n| | 6 Golden Spring (New York)?
14: 11 :56 | 6
About two years ago. A little more or less. 14:15:18 |\n| 7 | MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object to that
14:12:00 | 7
Q. Okay. And -- and were you involved in the
14:15:22 |\n| | 8 question, and I have been advised for matters of
14:12:02 | 8 decision to hire this person?
14: 15:28 |\n| | 9 personal security that general counsel does not wish
14: 12:09 | 9
A. Yes.
14:15:30 |\n| | 10 to disclose general counsel's identity.
14:12:12 | 10
I make all the decision about the
14:15:35 |\n| II | MR.HARBACH: Okay. Ithinklcanwork
14:12:17 | 11 recruitment as the president of the company.
14:15:38 |\n| | 12 around it, Scott. Just don't hesitate to interrupt
14:12: 19 | Q. How many other people did you interview for
12
14:15:41 |\n| | 13 if -- if you want to, but I'm going to try and work
14:12:23 | 13 that position?
14:15:45 |\n| | 14 around that.
14:12:26 | 14
A. Wow. I mean, when I hire people, I'm pretty 14: 15:47 |\n| 15 | Okay?
14: 12:27 | 15 much, if! can say, picky; so I did interview, like,
14:15:56 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN: Okay.
14:12:27 | 16 several candidates.
14: 16:02 |\n| | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:
14: 12:27 | 17
Q. Okay. Do you know where the person who is
14:16:04 |\n| 18 | Q. Ms. Wang, your lawyer doesn't want you to
14:12:28 | 18 currently the general counsel worked immediately
14:16:09 |\n| | 19 say the name, but do you know who the current general 14: 12:31 | 19 before coming to Golden Spring?
14:16:13 |\n| | 20 counsel of Golden Spring (New York) is?
14:12:35 | A. Can you please repeat again?
20
14:16:20 |\n| 21 | A. Yes, I know.
14:12:37 | 21
Q. Yes.
14:16:23 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. And do you communicate with that
14:12:39 | 22
A. Sorry.
14:16:24 |\n| | 23 person?
14: 12:42 | Q. The -- the person who is general counsel of 14: 16:25
23 |\n| 24 | A. Yes, we do.
14: 12:46 | 24 Golden Spring, who you said you were involved in
14: 16:28 |\n| 25 | Q. How regularly? How often do you communicate 14:12:49 | 25 hiring, where did that person work immediately before 14:16:31 |\n| | Page 150 | Page 152 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | 1 with that person?
14:12:52 | 1 Golden Spring, if you know?
14:16:36 |\n| 2 | A. We communicated -- it is not a daily basis,
14:12:53 | A. Idoknow,butldon'tfeelcomfortableto
2
14:16:41 |\n| | 3 but several times per week.
14:13:03 | 3 give any details about my current employee --
14:16:44 |\n| 4 | Q. Okay. I find it interesting that you have
14:13:06 | Q. Okay.
4
14:16:47 |\n| | 5 a clear recollection of how often you speak with the
14: 13: 13 | 5
A. -- and including previous employer.
14:16:48 |\n| | 6 general counsel, but no recollection with any clarity 14: 13: 18 | Q. How about this?
6
14:16:51 |\n| | 7 of how often you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
14:13:24 | 7
A. That safety reason again.
14:16:52 |\n| 8 | Can you explain that?
14:13:28 | 8
Q. Give me -- give me the -- give me the first
14:16:54 |\n| 9 | A. Yes, sir.
14:13:31 | 9 letter of the company where the general counsel
14:16:56 |\n| 10 | Because I'm the president of the
14:13:33 | 10 worked before coming to Golden Spring.
14:16:59 |\n| | II Golden Spring, and that is my job to communicate with 14:13:35 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. That's -- that is
14:17:02
11 |\n| | 12 my employee, including my general counsel and the
14:13:38 | 12 the -- it is the same issue.
14: 17:04 |\n| | 13 rest of our employees; so that is my job. I am being 14: 13:42 | MR. HARBACH: Because of the first letter?
13
14: 17:10 |\n| | 14 paid to do that; so Mr. Ho Wan Kwok-- I mean, we
14:13:46 | 14
MR. ROSEN: We are not playing, you know,
14:17:12 |\n| | 15 don't communicate on a regular basis or any -- kind
14: 13 :53 | 15 twenty questions here. David, c'mon.
14:17: 14 |\n| | 16 of like as you said, a regular basis. We just
14:13:56 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
14: 17:24 |\n| | 17 communicate as we need. I mean, he is not employee;
14: 13:59 | 17
Q. Was the general counsel's prior employer --
14: 17:24 |\n| | 18 right?
14:14:04 | 18 was the identity of the general counsel's prior
14:17:31 |\n| 19 | And then I don't report to him; so why
14: 14:04 | 19 employer a factor in your decision to hire that
14:17:39 |\n| | 20 should I, you know, keep that rhythm and then to talk 14: 14:07 | 20 person?
14:17:44 |\n| | 21 with someone who is not in my job work?
14:14:10 | A. Well, I don't understand your question, sir.
21
14:17:44 |\n| 22 | Q. Just one moment, please. Hang on one
14:14:14 | Can I ask for the interpreter to help me?
22
14:17:46 |\n| | 23 second.
14: 14:24 | 23 Sorry.
14: 17:49 |\n| 24 | When was the current general counsel of
14: 14:49 | 24
Q. No problem.
14:17:51 |\n| | 25 Golden Spring hired?
14: 14:52
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14:17:52
Page 153 |\n\n39 (Pages 150 - 153)\n\n| | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:17:55 | 1 Golden Spring (New York), apart from the general
14:21:00 |\n|----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. Is the -- was the identity of the general
14:17:55 | 2 counsel?
14:21:03 |\n| | 3 counsel's provider employer a factor in your decision 14: 17:58 | A. Which time period you are asking, sir?
14:21:04
3 |\n| | 4 to hire that person?
14:18:05 | Q. Currently.
14:21: 10
4 |\n| 5 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
14: 18:24 | A. No.
14:21: 12
5 |\n| 6 | THE WITNESS: When I interview and hire
14: 18:31 | 6
Q. How many employees does Golden Spring
14:21:14 |\n| | 7 people, like the previous employer before me, that
14: 18:33 | 7 (New York) Limited currently have?
14:21:26 |\n| | 8 does matter also. And, obviously, you know, I want
14:18:40 | 8
MR. ROSEN: I believe that information has
14:21:34 |\n| | 9 to hire the high quality oftalent; right?
14:18:44 | 9 been previously provided. And I believe, David, you
14:21:36 |\n| 10 | Where they are from, that do matter. And,
14: 18:48 | 10 are aware of the sensitivity to the employee issue.
14:21:41 |\n| | II plus, I still care about, like, the loyalty with the
14:18:51 | 11 I -- I don't think we have an objection to answering
14:21:45 |\n| | 12 previous job. You already--! don't like, you know, 14:18:54 | 12 how many employees there are, but I would ask you
14:21:50 |\n| | 13 employee or the candidate jumping too often from job
14: 18: 59 | 13 not -- not to get into any personal or identifying
14:21:54 |\n| | 14 to job. But besides that, you know, I do care about, 14: 19:04 | 14 information with respect to that.
14:21:57 |\n| | 15 like, the interview --the feeling of the interview;
14: 19:09 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. I -- !--thank you,
15
14:22:00 |\n| | 16 right?
14:19:11 | 16 Scott.
14:22:02 |\n| 17 | The understanding and the communication and
14:19:12 | I do understand the position of
17
14:22:04 |\n| | 18 the people skill, of course the capability of
14: 19:14 | 18 Golden Spring (New York) as had been represented to
14:22:06 |\n| | 19 professional, that all matters; so to answer your
14:19:17 | 19 us by counsel and repeated by counsel for the debtor
14:22:09 |\n| | 20 question, the previous employer does matter, but it
14:19:20 | 20 in -- in a previous proceeding; so I will respect
14:22: 14 |\n| | 21 is not only the -- only one reason for me to make
14: 19:23 | 21 your request for purposes of this deposition while
14:22:22 |\n| | 22 a decision to send out the offer.
14: 19:27 | 22 noting that we disagree strongly with the -- the
14:22:25 |\n| | 23 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:19:31 | 23 basis of it.
14:22:29 |\n| 24 | Q. Did you contact this general counsel's
14:19:31 | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:22:33 |\n| | 25 previous employer during the hiring process?
14:19:34 | 25
Q. So for the moment, Ms. Wang, my question is
14:22:33 |\n| | Page 154 | Page 156 |\n| | | |\n| I | A. I remember my HR department by then, they
14:19:42 | I just the number of employees.
14:22:36 |\n| | 2 conducted the background check and reference check.
14: 19:47 | 2
How many employees currently work at
14:22:38 |\n| | 3 I didn't do that by myself. I have a company do
14: 19:51 | 3 Golden Spring (New York) Limited?
14:22:43 |\n| | 4 that.
14:19:54 | 4
A. Oh, currently I believe it is about fourteen 14:22:45 |\n| 5 | Q. So you did--you, personally, did not speak 14:19:54 | 5 ofthem, including myself.
14:22:53 |\n| | 6 to anyone at this person's prior employer; correct?
14: 19:57 | 6
Q. Including you?
14:22:55 |\n| 7 | A. I mean, I manage the entire, like, employee.
14:20:03 | 7
A. Yes.
14:22:58 |\n| | 8 I mean, as the president of the company, my
14:20:06 | Q. Does that also include Mr. Qiang Guo? Or
8
14:22:58 |\n| | 9 understanding is you are the -- the HR department
14:20:09 | 9 no?
14:23 :04 |\n| | 10 will do that for me; right?
14:20:12 | A. No.
14:23:05
10 |\n| II | Q. You know, Ms. Wang, it is a simple question.
14:20:14 | Q. Okay. So you and the general counsel --
14:23:05
11 |\n| | 12 I'm not suggesting you should have. I'm just asking
14:20:17 | 12 does that include that person?
14:23:10 |\n| | 13 whether you did.
14:20:20 | 13
A. Correct.
14:23:13 |\n| 14 | A. No, I didn't.
14:20:21 | 14
Q. Okay. So you, the general counsel, and
14:23:14 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay.
14:20:23 | 15 twelve other people?
14:23:21 |\n| 16 | A. My HR department did that, uh-huh.
14:20:24 | 16
A. Yes.
14:23:23 |\n| 17 | Q. Okay. Did you personally conduct any of the 14:20:27 | Q. Do all of those people work at the family
17
14:23:23 |\n| | 18 reference calls for this person?
14:20:30 | 18 office?
14:23:32 |\n| 19 | A. No.
14:20:32 | 19
MR. ROSEN: I object to this. The -- there
14:23:36 |\n| 20 | I didn't do that. But my -- my -- in
14:20:35 | 20 are issues of physical security that I have been
14:23:38 |\n| | 21 person, my -- personally.
14:20:40 | 21 alerted to. And if-- if -- if you would like,
14:23:41 |\n| 22 | Q. But your understanding is that somebody in
14:20:43 | 22 David, I do have a statement from the Golden Spring
14:23:47 |\n| | 23 your HR department did?
14:20:44 | 23 security team that I could read into the record.
14:23:50 |\n| 24
25 | A. Correct.
14:20:46
Q. Are there any other inhouse lawyers for
14:20:47 | 24 If -- if -- if you think it is appropriate. But --
14:23:54
25
MR. HARBACH: I -- I appreciate that, Scott. 14:23:59 |\n\n**40 (Pages 154 - 157)**\n\n| | 1 I mean, I -- as I said before, we -- we understand
14:24:02 | A. He advised me he will take care of that.
1
14:27:15 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 the position that you are taking. And if your
14:24:05 | Q. Did he tell you where the money was coming
14:27: 18
2 |\n| | 3 position is whether all employees work in the same
14:24:08 | 3 from?
14:27:20 |\n| | 4 location presents a security risk such that you are
14:24:13 | A. So far not yet. But he said he will take
14:27:21
4 |\n| | 5 going to direct the witness not to answer, that is
14:24:16 | 5 care of that, as he always does.
14:27:26 |\n| | 6 okay. I'll just note for the record that we -- we
14:24: 19 | 6
Q. Did you ask him where the money was coming
14:27:27 |\n| | 7 disagree and reserve the right to take it up with the 14:24:22 | 7 from?
14:27:30 |\n| | 8 Judge, like we do just about all of the objections
14:24:26 | A. I didn't.
8
14:27:31 |\n| | 9 that have been made today. But -- but -- but that is 14:24:30 | 9
Q. Okay.
14:27:37 |\n| | 10 sufficient for present purposes, if that is okay with 14:24:34 | A. He said he will take care of that.
10
14:27:39 |\n| | 11 you.
14:24:36 | |\n| | | Q. No.
14:27:40
11 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.
14:24:37 | 12
I -- I -- I understand that he said he will
14:27:41 |\n| 13 | That -- that is fine.
14:24:38 | 13 take care of it. I'm just asking if you know where
14:27:43 |\n| 14 | MR. HARBACH: Okay.
14:24:40 | 14 the money was coming from, and-- and I think I have
14:27:46 |\n| | 15 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:24:41 | 15 got the answer.
14:27:49 |\n| 16 | Q. Does Golden Spring -- as far as -- as you
14:24:52 | 16
A. We have trust between each other for so many 14:27:51 |\n| | 17 are concerned, Ms. Wang, does Golden Spring
14:24:54 | 17 years. When -- as the owner of the company, he said
14:27:54 |\n| | 18 (New York) Limited expect to be repaid for the DIP
14:24:59 | 18 he will take care of that, and I will just let him do 14:27:57 |\n| | 19 loan?
14:25:05 | 19 his part. I am doing my part; right? So
14:28:01 |\n| 20 | A. It is a loan, yes. Golden Spring is going
14:25:06 | 20
Q. Listen, that -- that is fine. But you have
14:28:05 |\n| | 21 to expect to be repaid.
14:25:12 | 21 been tendered as the person at Golden Spring
14:28:07 |\n| 22 | Q. We were speaking earlier about bank accounts 14:25:14 | 22 (New York) Limited with knowledge about all these
14:28:11 |\n| | 23 and whatnot, and I'm -- and I'm not intending to
14:25:30 | 23 topics that we have noticed. One of the topics is
14:28: 14 |\n| | 24 reopen that can of worms, but I am going to ask this
14:25:33 | 24 the source of funds used by Golden Spring to finance
14:28:17 |\n| | 25 precise question.
14:25:38 | 25 the DIP loan agreement. And so I -- I just asked you 14:28:21 |\n| | Page 158 | |\n| | | Page 160 |\n| I | What is the source of the moneys that will
14:25:38 | I if you know, and so we are clear, your answer is you
14:28:26 |\n| | 14:25 :41 | 2 don't know, but Qiang Guo said he would take care of 14:28:31 |\n| | 2 fund the DIP loan if it is approved? | |\n| 3 | A. And it will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo
14:25:43 | 3 it, and that's enough for you.
14:28:35 |\n| | 4 directly.
14:25:53 | 4
MR. ROSEN: That's -- objection. That
14:28:38 |\n| 5 | Q. What is the source of the moneys that will
14:25:53 | 5 mischaracterizes the testimony.
14:28:40 |\n| | 6 fund the DIP loan ifit is approved?
14:25:58 | MR. HARBACH: Oh, Scott, how does that
14:28:42
6 |\n| 7 | A. It will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo
14:26:06 | 7 mischaracterize the testimony?
14:28:44 |\n| | 8 directly.
14:26:08 | 8
MR. ROSEN: Because she also testified that
14:28:45 |\n| 9 | Q. Do you know where the money will come from?
14:26:08 | 9 it could be from his wealth.
14:28:47 |\n| 10 | A. I was not advised it yet, but Mr. Qiang Guo
14:26: 13 | 10 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:28:47 |\n| | 11 said that he will take care of that, as he always do. 14:26:19 | Q. Okay. So did he -- did he say that? My
14:28:50
11 |\n| 12 | Q. So you are president and treasurer of
14:26:22 | 12 question is did he say that to you? Did he say that
14:28:57 |\n| | 13 Golden Spring. You are here testifying today about
14:26:25 | 13 I am -- I'm going to take care of it from my wealth?
14:28:59 |\n| | 14 a DIP loan, as I have been reminded countless times.
14:26:29 | 14 Is that what he said?
14:29:02 |\n| | 15 And your testimony is that you do not know where the
14:26:35 | A. Correct.
14:29:09
15 |\n| | 16 money to fund the DIP loan is coming from.
14:26:39 | Q. He said that to you?
14:29:09
16 |\n| 17 | Have I got that right?
14:26:45 | 17
A. Yes.
14:29:12 |\n| 18 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. That
14:26:47 | 18
As always, we chat. He briefed me. He
14:29: 13 |\n| | 19 mischaracterizes the witness' testimony.
14:26:48 | 19 said, I will take care of that. You don't worry.
14:29: 17 |\n| 20 | You can answer the question.
14:26:55 | 20 And I have place to rent. My understanding, after so 14:29:20 |\n| 21 | THE WITNESS: It will be arranged by
14:26:56 | 21 many years, that will come from his wealth.
14:29:23 |\n| | 22 Mr. Qiang Guo directly from his or -- his wealth, in
14:26:58 | 22
Q. Okay. So he did not say to you, I will take 14:29:26 |\n| | 23 my understanding, as always we do.
14:27:06 | 23 care of it from my money. He just said, I will take
14:29:29 |\n| | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:27:10 | 24 care ofit, and based on your experience with him
14:29:34 |\n| 25 | Q. Did he tell you that?
14:27:11
Page 159 | 25 over the years, you understood that to mean from his
14:29:39
Page 161 |\n\n41 (Pages 158 - 161)\n\n| | 1 wealth.
14:29:42 | Q. Okay. And do those bylaws say anything
14:33:52 |\n|----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Have I got that right?
14:29:43 | 2 about decisions of the company and how they are to be 14:33:56 |\n| 3 | A. So you remind me, like, he said I have it.
14:29:45 | 3 made?
14:34:04 |\n| | 4 I will take care of that. That's his, as we said,
14:29:51 | A. Yes.
14:34:04
4 |\n| | 5 quote to quote. He said that to me. In my
14:29:55 | Q. Okay. And do those bylaws include rules
14:34:05
5 |\n| | 6 understanding, that will come from his -- his wealth. 14:29:58 | 6 about how the -- the president and treasurer are to
14:34: 10 |\n| 7 | Q. Okay. And when was this conversation?
14:30:00 | 7 be involved?
14:34:13 |\n| 8 | A. That was yesterday also.
14:30:03 | 8
A. Yes.
14:34:14 |\n| 9 | Q. Was yesterday the -- the first time you
14:30:06 | 9
Q. Okay. And as far as you are aware,
14:34: 16 |\n| | 10 learned what the source of the funds used to finance
14:30:17 | 10 Golden Spring has operated within the constraints of 14:34:22 |\n| | 11 the DIP loan agreement were coming from?
14:30:24 | 11 those bylaws properly as long as you have been there? 14:34:27 |\n| 12 | A. There was a -- in order to prep the
14:30:30 | A. What do you mean, properly, sir?
14:34:31
12 |\n| | 13 deposition today, like, he went through this DIP loan 14:30:37 | Q. Well, have they-- while you have been at
14:34:34
13 |\n| | 14 arrangement with me a little bit.
14:30:41 | 14 Golden Spring (New York), have the rules been
14:34:38 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay.
14:30:43 | 15 followed as laid out in the bylaws?
14:34:41 |\n| 16 | A. Yeah. He mentioned to me, I have it.
14:30:44 | 16
A. I mean, we are family office. I mean, we're 14:34:44 |\n| | 17 I will take care of that --
14:30:46 | 17 private company and family office. I work for
14:34:48 |\n| 18 | Q. All right.
14:30:48 | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo, himself, for my entire career; so
14:34:53 |\n| 19 | A. -- you know, as a conversation.
14:30:49 | 19 like, he authorized me to make a decision.
14:35:02 |\n| 20 | Q. Fair enough.
14:30:50 | 20 I communicated with him. I mean, we don't have
14:35:06 |\n| 21 | My only question for you is when he told you 14: 30: 51 | 21 issue. If there is missing any paperwork, it doesn't 14:35:08 |\n| | 22 yesterday, I have it. I'll take care of it, is that
14:30: 54 | 22 mean that anybody purposely do anything wrong; so we
14:35: 11 |\n| | 23 the first time you learned what the source of the DIP 14:30:58 | 23 are a family office.
14:35: 14 |\n| | 24 loan funds would be?
14:31:03 | 24
Q. I'm not suggesting anything about
14:35:16 |\n| 25 | A. That is the time I heard from him because
14:31:05 | 25 wrongdoing, certainly not on purpose. I asked you if 14:35:19 |\n| | Page 162 | Page 164 |\n| | | |\n| | 1 I need to prep the deposition today. But I know he
14:31: 11 | 1 the company had bylaws. You said yes.
14:35:25 |\n| | 2 has it for so many years; so it is not, like, the
14:31: 15 | 2
My next question is has the company abided
14:35:27 |\n| | 3 first time -- right? -- I got -- oh, you have money.
14:31 :20 | 3 by the bylaws as long as you have been there, as far
14:35:31 |\n| | 4 It is not like that way. I know he had it.
14:31:23 | 4 as you know?
14:35:35 |\n| 5 | Q. Oh, I got it. I got you. And, believe me,
14:31:25 | 5
MR. ROSEN: Objection. That's -- that is --
14:35:37 |\n| | 6 I am not trying to suggest that yesterday was the
14:31 :28 | 6 that is very broad.
14:35:37 |\n| | 7 first day you learned he had money. Not at all.
14:31:31 | What particular aspect of the bylaws are you 14:35:41
7 |\n| | 8 I get that.
14:31:35 | 8 looking for?
14:35:44 |\n| 9 | What I'm -- what I'm trying to focus on is
14:31:36 | 9
MR. HARBACH: Well, I tried to remain
14:35:45 |\n| | 10 was yesterday the first day that you learned that the 14:31:38 | 10 focused on decision making and the powers of the
14:35:47 |\n| | II money that would fund the DIP loan was going to come
14:31:44 | 11 president and treasurer; so I guess I'll ask it that
14:35:50 |\n| | 12 from Qiang Guo?
14:31:47 | 12 way.
14:35:55 |\n| 13 | A. That was the time I heard from him, yes.
14:31: 52 | 13 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:35:55 |\n| 14 | Q. Okay. What is your understanding as to how
14:31:55 | 14
Q. Have -- have the bylaws about the authority
14:35:55 |\n| | 15 the DIP loan is going to be repaid? If you know.
14:32:04 | 15 and power of the president and the treasurer been
14:35:58 |\n| 16 | A. I don't know.
14:32:11 | 16 respected since you have been at Golden Spring?
14:36:04 |\n| 17 | Q. Okay. Give me ten seconds, folks, please.
14:32:13 | 17
MR. ROSEN: Objection. The bylaws are not
14:36:07 |\n| | 18 Excuse me.
14:32:31 | 18 in the record. It-- it is -- the question is -- is
14:36:09 |\n| 19 | Okay. Thanks, everybody.
14:33:24 | 19 hopelessly vague.
14:36: 13 |\n| 20 | Subject change.
14:33:29 | 20
But you can answer.
14:36: 15 |\n| 21 | Ms. Wang, does -- does Golden Spring
14:33:37 | 21
THE WITNESS: Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we
14:36:18 |\n| | 22 (New York) Limited have any kind of company bylaws | 14:33:45 22 manage Golden Spring (New York) Limited based on our
14:36:2\\$ |\n| | 23 that you know of?
14:33:49 | 23 aligned -- aligned-- our aligned agreement and
14:36:26 |\n| 24
25 | A. Yes.
14:33:50
We do have bylaws.
14:33:50 | 24 properauthorization.
14:36:31
25 /// |\n\n42 (Pages 162 - 165)\n\n| | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:36:32 | | Q. Okay. So this is what I was asking you
14:41:46 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | Q. Okay. Let me ask a different question.
14:36:35 | | 2 about a minute ago. In paragraph three, it says the
14:41:52 |\n| 3 | When you were appointed as president,
14:36:40 | | 3 date of filing of the corporation's original
14:41:56 |\n| | 4 secretary, treasurer of Golden Spring (New York) in
14:36:47 | | 4 certificate of incorporation in Delaware was
14:42:00 |\n| | 5 the spring of 2018 -- that's -- so that is the time
14:36:52 | | 5 03/10/2015.
14:42:04 |\n| | 6 I'm focusing on -- were you aware that the company's
14:36:57 | 6 | Do you see that?
14:42:07 |\n| | 7 charter had been inoperative and void since March I
14:37:01 | 7 | A. Yes.
14:42:08 |\n| | 8 of2017?
14:37:07 | 8 | Q. So that March 10th of 2015 was the --
14:42: 13 |\n| 9 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. Assumes facts not on 14:37: 10 | | 9 apparently the date of incorporation of Golden Spring 14:42: 16 |\n| | 10 the record.
14:37:13 | | 10 (New York) Limited.
14:42:20 |\n| 11 | THE WITNESS: I don't recall.
14:37:15 | 11 | And then ifyou look down at paragraph five, 14:42:21 |\n| | | | |\n| | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:37:16 | | 12 it says:
14:42:25 |\n| 13 | Q. Do you recall ever executing a revival --
14:37: 18 | 13 | \"The corporation was duly organized and
14:42:26 |\n| | 14 a certificate of revival on behalf of Golden Spring
14:37:23 | 14 | carried on the business authorized by its
14:42:29 |\n| | 15 (New York) Limited to correct that problem?
14:37:27 | 15 | charter until the first day of March AD 2017, 14:42:32 |\n| 16 | A. I don't recall. If you have documents, you
14:37:33 | 16 | at which time its charter became inoperative 14:42:41 |\n| | 17 can remind me, sir.
14:37:36 | 17 | and void for nonpayment of taxes and/or
14:42:44 |\n| 18 | Q. Give me just one second.
14:37:38 | 18 | failure to file a complete annual report and 14:42:49 |\n| 19 | Okay. I think we're going to put up another 14:39: 17 | 19 | the certificate of revival is filed by
14:42:54 |\n| | 20 exhibit here real quick that might help you remember. 14:39:21 | 20 | authority of the duly elected directors of
14:42:56 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. Itis 808. Yeah. It
14:39:30 | 21 | the corporation in accordance with the laws
14:43:00 |\n| | 22 is 808.
14:39:40 | 22 | of the state of Delaware.\"
14:43:04 |\n| 23 | (Deposition Exhibit Number 5
14:39:43 | 23 | Were you able to follow along with me while
14:43:07 |\n| 24 | was marked for identification.)
14:39:46 | | 24 I read that?
14:43:09 |\n| 25 | MR. HARBACH: Thanks for your patience.
14:39:46 | 25 | A. Yes.
14:43:10 |\n| | Page 166 | | Page 168 |\n| | | | |\n| | I I think we have got the document here.
14:39:49 | I | Q. Okay. So now does this refresh your
14:43: 11 |\n| 2 | THE WITNESS: Sorry.
14:40:02 | | 2 recollection about whether when you were hired at
14:43:19 |\n| 3 | Sir, can we have a break after this
14:40:05 | | 3 Golden Spring in the spring of 2018 the charter had
14:43:23 |\n| | 4 document?
14:40:07 | | 4 been made inoperative and void?
14:43:32 |\n| | 5 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:40:08 | 5 | A. So what is your question, sir? Are you
14:43 :43 |\n| 6 | Q. Sure. | | |\n| | 14:40:08 | | 6 expecting me to reply?
14:43 :46 |\n| 7 | A. Thank you.
14:40:09 | 7 | Q. Yes, ma'am.
14:43:47 |\n| 8 | Q. Okay. So what is fixing to come through is
14:40:18 | 8 | Before I dug up this document, when I asked
14:43:48 |\n| | 9 Exhibit 5. There we go.
14:40:21 | | 9 you that same question, you said I don't remember or
14:43:52 |\n| 10 | All right. I had myself muted. I'm sorry.
14:41:02 | | 10 I don't recall. And you said to me, if you have any
14:43:56 |\n| 11 | Could you please go to the last page of
14:41:04 | | 11 documents, maybe that could help me; so I'm providing 14:44:00 |\n| | 12 Exhibit 5.
14:41:07 | | 12 you a document to try and help you.
14:44:04 |\n| 13 | A. (Witness complies.)
14:41:08 | 13 | And the question is whether seeing this
14:44:09 |\n| 14 | Yes. I'm here.
14:41:09 | | 14 document refreshes your recollection about whether at 14:44: 11 |\n| 15 | Q. Okay. You see how this one is captioned
14:41:10 | | 15 the time you assumed your duties at Golden Spring
14:44:15 |\n| | 16 state of Delaware, certificate for revival of
14:41:14 | | 16 (New York) in the spring of2018 the company, in
14:44:21 |\n| | 17 charter?
14:41: 18 | | 17 fact, had become inoperative -- correction.
14:44:27 |\n| 18 | A. Yes.
14:41:18 | 18 | The charter of the company had become
14:44:30 |\n| 19 | Q. And there is a signature at the bottom.
14:41: 19 | | 19 inoperative and void.
14:44:33 |\n| 20 | Is that yours?
14:41 :23 | 20 | A. So you are asking me why? Or what is your
14:44:41 |\n| 21 | A. Yes.
14:41:24 | | 21 question, sir? Why or --
14:44:45 |\n| 22 | Q. And the very bottom right hand of the page
14:41 :27 | 22 | Q. I'm asking whether this is, in fact, true
14:44:48 |\n| | 23 it says -- there is a stamp there that says filed
14:41:30 | | 23 that at the time you were hired in the spring of
14:44:54 |\n| 25 | 24 ten -- there is a time of!0:23: 18, I think it says.
14:41:37
A. Yes.
14:41:46 | | 24 2018 -- okay? -- whether at that time the charter of 14:44:58
25 Golden Spring (New York) Limited was inoperative and
14:45 :06 |\n\n43 (Pages 166 - 169)\n\n| | 1 void.
14:45:12 | You recall him being a lawyer at
14:48:22 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. The -- the document
14:45: 12 | 2 Williams & Connolly; is that right?
14:48:25 |\n| | 3 speaks for itself.
14:45: 14 | A. He is attorney of William Connolly, yes.
3
14:48:28 |\n| 4 | MR. HARBACH: It-- it does, indeed, Scott.
14:45:16 | Q. Okay. And did you say-- make sure I heard
4
14:48:31 |\n| | 5 And that is quite fair.
14:45:19 | 5 you correctly.
14:48:34 |\n| 6 | Unfortunately, the history of this
14:45:21 | Did you say that -- that he and
14:48:34
6 |\n| | 7 litigation is that sometimes documents are challenged 14:45:23 | 7 Williams & Connolly represented Qiang Guo?
14:48:38 |\n| | 8 as being inauthentic and forgeries when they are
14:45 :26 | 8
A. In these .pdf -- in these exhibit,
14:48:41 |\n| | 9 plainly not; so I'm afraid I have to ask the
14:45 :31 | 9 William Connolly, Jerry Shulman -- Jerry represents
14:48:51 |\n| | 10 question.
14:45:34 | 10 Golden Spring Limited also.
14:48:56 |\n| II | MR. ROSEN: You can answer the question.
14:45:34 | Q. Okay. Did-- did Mr. Shulman represent
14:48:58
11 |\n| 12 | THE WITNESS: Sir, I don't -- I don't know
14:45:36 | 12 Qiang Guo?
14:49:01 |\n| | 13 what happened before I was officially hired, but if
14:45:39 | A. I --
14:49:02
13 |\n| | 14 you read back the entire Golden Spring, including,
14:45:45 | 14
Q. Because I believe that is what you said
14:49:06 |\n| | 15 I believe, the corporation, was set up by attorney
14:45:49 | 15 a few minutes ago. l'mjusttryingtomake sure
14:49:08 |\n| | 16 from William Connolly. The attorney's name is
14:45:52 | 16 I heard you correctly.
14:49:11 |\n| | 17 addressed on page three, Jerry L. Shulman; so
14:45:58 | 17
A. I believe so.
14:49:13 |\n| | 18 I know -- I got to know -- Jerry was Mr. Qiang Guo's
14:46:03 | Q. Okay. To your knowledge, did Mr. Shulman of 14:49:14
18 |\n| | 19 attorney. And William Connolly was, like, a-- what
14:46:07 | 19 Williams & Connolly represent Ho Wan Kwok?
14:49:19 |\n| | 20 is technically, like, the Golden Spring charters,
14:46:11 | 20
A. I don't know that.
14:49:22 |\n| | 21 like, the documentation, you know, all the paperwork; 14:46: 17 | 21
Q. Okay. The -- the document that is on the
14:49:25 |\n| | 22 so the answer to you was, like, when I was hired --
14:46:20 | 22 screen there says that the reason the charter became
14:49:31 |\n| | 23 of course, I don't know what happened before me, but, 14:46:25 | 23 inoperative and void was for nonpayment of taxes
14:49:37 |\n| | 24 obviously, Jerry Shulman, the attorney by then was --
14:46:28 | 24 and/or failure to file a complete annual report.
14:49:42 |\n| | 25 maintained the -- the record here or fix the record
14:46:32
Page 170 | Do you know which of those reasons, or both
25
14:49:50
Page 172 |\n| | | |\n| | | |\n| | I somehow, which I am not aware of that before me.
14:46:36 | I reasons, were why the charter of Golden Spring became 14:49:55 |\n| | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:
14:46:41 | 2 inoperative and void?
14:50:03 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. Just a moment.
14:46:42 | 3
A. As I said, before me, what happened I don't
14:50:05 |\n| 4 | Okay. We thought we were having a fire
14:46: 50 | 4 know. But since I was appointed, Golden Spring never 14:50:14 |\n| | 5 drill in our building, but it is only a test. Sorry
14:46: 53 | 5 has this problem.
14:50:20 |\n| 7 | 6 for the noise.
14:46:56
I understood what you said, Ms. Wang.
14:47:00 | 6
Q. Okay. Well, it apparently had the problem
14:50:21
7 for six months after you were appointed because the
14:50:24 |\n| | 8 You--you signed this document, and it was filed in
14:47:03 | 8 certificate of revival wasn't filed until October; so 14:50:28 |\n| | 9 Delaware in October of 2018.
14:47: 12 | 9 I'll ask the same question. And maybe you don't
14:50:35 |\n| 10 | Do you remember signing it?
14:47: 18 | 10 know. It is okay if you don't know, but all I can do 14:50:37 |\n| 11 | A I don't recall. Too many years ago.
14:47:22 | 11 is ask.
14:50:40 |\n| 12 | Q. I gather, from what you said a moment ago,
14:47:24 | Do you know what the reason was why the
14:50:41
12 |\n| | 13 that ifl were to ask you how you learned that the
14:47:29 | 13 charter became inoperative and void?
14:50:45 |\n| | 14 charter of Golden Spring had become inoperative and
14:47:38 | 14
A. I don't know the reason, but I am not able
14:50:53 |\n| | 15 void, you would say it was -- it was from the
14:47:41 | 15 to fix everything that happened before me from day
14:50:56 |\n| | 16 attorney you mentioned; is that right?
14:47:45 | 16 one I was appointed; right?
14:51:00 |\n| 17 | A I read this from the exhibit you present to
14:47:50 | 17
So the six months, that is a fair time. But 14:51:02 |\n| | 18 me. And the attorney's name, Jerry Shulman, is on
14:47:56 | 18 I need to spend on time and then start to catch up
14: 51: 04 |\n| | 19 that. Obviously, my understanding, he was working on 14:48:02 | 19 and fix what happened before me.
14:51:08 |\n| | 20 this before.
14:48:05 | 20
Q. Yeah. Andthankyou.
14:51:09 |\n| 21 | Q. Okay. Did -- do you recall having
14:48:06 | 21
You requested a short break.
14:51:19 |\n| | 22 conversations with Mr. Shulman?
14:48:08 | 22
MR. HARBACH: And why don't we take that
14:51:21 |\n| 23 | A I don't recall.
14:48: 11 | 23 now.
14:51:23 |\n| 24 | Q. AndyourecallMr. Shulman--thatis
14:48:12 | 24
Just so everybody knows -- I hesitate to say 14:51:24 |\n\n44 (Pages 170 - 173)\n\n| | 1 a break until 3 :00 o'clock.
14:51:33 | I | A No.
15:06:30 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the
14:51:36 | 2 | Q Where did it come from?
15:06:31 |\n| | 3 record.
14:51:37 | 3 | A It come from his own successful investment.
15:06:33 |\n| 4 | The time is 2:51 p.m.
14:51:37 | 4 | Q Okay I'm asking about the money that he
15:06:42 |\n| 5 | (Short recess taken.)
15:02:54 | 5 | originally invested to become successful, didn't that 15 :06:46 |\n| 6 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
15:02:54 | | 6 comefromhisfather?
15:06:52 |\n| | 7 record.
15:02:57 | 7 | A No.
15:06:54 |\n| 8 | The time is 3:02.
15:02:57 | 8 | Q Okay Where did it come from 7
15:06:55 |\n| 9 | MR. HARBACH: Apologies, everyone. There
15:03:28 | 9 | A What I -- what I learned is that it come
15:06:58 |\n| | 10 was a loud announcement on our loudspeakers here.
15:03:30 | | IO from his family -- his extended family.
15:07:05 |\n| | 11 That is why I remained muted.
15:03:34 | II | Q Who told you that?
15:07:08 |\n| | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:03:34 | 12 | A I learned from him.
15:07:12 |\n| 13 | Q. One cleanup question, Ms. Wang, before we
15:03:38 | 13 | Q That is what he told you?
15:07:14 |\n| | 14 proceed to the next topic.
15:03:42 | 14 | A (Nods head)
15:07:17 |\n| 15 | Could you describe one successful investment 15:03:44 | 15 | Q Okay Next subject, do you remember earlier 15.07.21 |\n| | 16 that Golden Spring (New York) has made since you have 15:03:49 16 in our time today I explained to you that there was | | 15:07:28 |\n| | 17 been president?
15:03:53 | | 17 a difference between the -- the DIP loan, which we
15.07.31 |\n| 18 | A. Since I was appointed as a president; so the 15:03:55 | | 18 just talked about for some time, and then also loans 15 :07:35 |\n| | 19 first job, of course, is build up the entire team and 15 :04: 10 | | 19 to fund litigation? Do you remember that?
15:0739 |\n| | 20 then start back to the operation. And then we did
15:04:13 | 20 | A Yes.
15:07:43 |\n| | 21 have some projects in discussion and then develop.
15:04:22 | 21 | Q Okay And so now I want to talk about that 15:07:45 |\n| | 22 But because of a Pacific Alliance branded lawsuit,
15:04:26 | | 22 second category, which is the loans that
15:07:50 |\n| | 23 I mean, our barik balance was very seriously hurt; so
15:04:35 | | 23 Golden Spring (New York) has made to Ho Wan Kwok for
15:07:55 |\n| | 24 we were not able to complete the full investment
15:04:39 | | 24 litigation.
15:08:02 |\n| | 25 project. But we did have some -- very prospective
15:04:43 | 25 | Okay?
15:08:04 |\n| | Page 174 | | Page 176 |\n| | | | |\n| | I one before.
15:04:49 | I | A. Yes.
15:08:06 |\n| 2 | Q. Okay. Leaving aside the prospective one, is 15 :04: 50 | 2 | Q. Okay. So I -- for -- for right now I'm not
15:08:06 |\n| | 3 there any investment project that Golden Spring has
15:04:55 | | 3 talking about the DIP loan.
15:08:09 |\n| | 4 done that has succeeded since you have been
15:05:02 | 4 | Do you understand?
15:08:11 |\n| | 5 president?
15:05:05 | 5 | A. Yes.
15:08:12 |\n| 6 | A. As I just explained, because our banking
15:05:06 | 6 | Q. Okay. According to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,
15:08:15 |\n| | 7 relationship was hurted by Pacific Alliance; so we
15:05: 10 | | 7 Golden Spring (New York) has loaned him approximately 15:08:2 S |\n| | 8 were not able to complete a full successful
15:05: 16 | | 8 \\$21 million to pay for litigation costs.
15:08:29 |\n| | 9 project -- investment project.
15:05:20 | 9 | My question to you is are you aware of that? 15:08:35 |\n| 10 | Q. Okay. So -- so the answer is no?
15:05:22 | 10 | A. Yes.
15:08:39 |\n| 11 | A. Correct.
15:05:25 | 11 | Q. Okay. Who requested those loans?
15:08:43 |\n| 12 | Q. Okay. Did you know Qiang Guo before you
15:05:26 | 12 | A. Who requested those loans? You mean the --
15:08:47 |\n| | 13 became an officer and director of Golden Spring
15:05:37 | | 13 I mean, can you explain more about the question?
15:08:59 |\n| | 14 (New York) Limited?
15:05:42 | 14 | Q. Who requested that Golden Spring (New York)
15:09:05 |\n| 15 | A. Yes.
15:05:42 | | 15 Limited would make those loans to cover
15:09: 10 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. Can you describe for me one
15:05:42 | | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's litigation costs?
15:09: 16 |\n| | 17 successful business enterprise that Qiang Guo has
15:05:48 | 17 | A. I believe they borrowed -- requested from
15:09:21 |\n| | 18 launched since you have known him.
15:05:54 | | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo directly, the owner of Golden Spring.
15:09:28 |\n| 19 | A. I don't want to put his business, any
15:05:57 | 19 | Q. By the borrower, you mean Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
15:09:38 |\n| | 20 specific name, at any risk for obvious reason. But
15:06:06 | 20 | A. That's right.
15:09:38 |\n| | 21 what I can tell you is that he has been very
15:06: 10 | 21 | Q. Are you cap- -- withdrawn.
15:09:44 |\n| | 22 successful in the investment world for -- in -- in
15:06: 13 | 22 | So father asked son to make the loans.
15:09:45 |\n| | 23 all of -- in different countries.
15:06:19 | 23 | Is that what you understand?
15:09:52 |\n| 24 | Q. And isn't it true that the -- the money that 15:06:21 | 24 | A. Yes.
15:09:54 |\n| | 25 he got to invest came from his father?
15:06:25 | 25 | Q. Okay. Who approved those loans for
15:09:54 |\n\n45 (Pages 174 - 177)\n\n| | 1 GoldenSpring(NewYork)?
15:10:03 | 1 convinced, if that is what you were talking about.
15: 13:05 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 | A. They were approved by both .vlr. Qiang Guo and 15:10:06 | 2
Q. Well, I'm not talking about anything in
15:13:11 |\n| | 3 myself, as the president of Golden Spring.
15: 10: 13 | 3 particular. I'm just asking. And I'm trying to get
15: 13:15 |\n| 4 | Q. How did you become aware of the loans that
15:10:18 | 4 an understanding of what real authority you have as
15: 13: 18 |\n| | 5 were requested?
15:10:20 | 5 president and treasurer of Golden Spring (New York)
15:13:21 |\n| 6 | A. I heard from Mr. Qiang Guo.
15:10:22 | 6 Limited. Because what you have told me thus far is
15:13:24 |\n| 7 | Q. Did you have any conversations with
15: 10:28 | 7 that the DIP loan was approved by Mr. Qiang Guo
15: 13:28 |\n| | 8 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok about those loans?
15: 10:30 | 8 without your input and that it was enough for you
15: 13: 33 |\n| 9 | A. No.
15:10:34 | 9 that he told you that he would take care of it. And
15: 13:38 |\n| 10 | I don't recall.
15: 10:37 | 10 when it comes to the litigation funding, you have
15: 13:42 |\n| II | Q. Okay. You never asked him what the money
15:10:38 | 11 told me that father asked son and that you have never 15: 13:45 |\n| | 12 was for?
15:10:43 | 12 spoken to father about it, not even to ask him what
15: 13:49 |\n| 13 | A. No.
15:10:44 | 13 the money was for.
15: 13:51 |\n| 14 | That was a conversation between
15:10:47 | 14
So what I'm trying to understand is what
15: 13: 53 |\n| | 15 Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
15:10:48 | 15 exactly your role is. I mean, I know what your
15:13:56 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. Were any of the litigation loans that 15:10:51 | 16 titles are, but I'm trying to understand what your
15:14:00 |\n| | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asked for refused?
15:11:04 | 17 role is; so that is why I'm asking these questions.
15: 14:03 |\n| | | |\n| 18 | A. Yes.
15:11:12 | And so my question is is there an occasion
15: 14:08
18 |\n| 19 | Q. Bywhom?
15:11:14 | 19 you can point to where you disagreed with
15:14:13 |\n| 20 | A. Refused by Mr. Qiang Guo.
15:11:17 | 20 Mr. Qiang Guo over a decision that involved more than 15:14:18 |\n| 21 | Q. Did you agree, in your capacity as
15:11:20 | 21 a million dollars?
15:14:23 |\n| | 22 president, that it should have been refused?
15: 11 :25 | 22
A. Yes.
15:14:26 |\n| 23 | A. I am aligned with Mr. Qiang Guo's rejection. 15: 11 :29 | 23
Q. Okay. Howrecently?
15:14:27 |\n| 24 | Q. Okay. Are you ever not aligned with his
15: 11:35 | 24
A. What do you mean, how recently? I already
15: 14:30 |\n| | 25 decisions about matters involving millions of
15:11:38
Page 178 | 25 explained, like, regarding when I was appointed
15:14:35
Page 180 |\n| | | |\n| | 1 dollars?
15:11:42 | 1 and--
15:14:38 |\n| 2 | A. Yes.
15:11:43 | 2
Q. Okay.
15:14:39 |\n| 3 | Q. Okay. Can you describe occasion on which
15:11:47 | 3
A. -- disagreements about investment projects.
15:14:39 |\n| | 4 your opinion prevailed?
15: 11: 51 | 4 I am talking about real estate or investment project
15: 14:43 |\n| 5 | A. For example, I make all the decision on the
15: 11: 56 | 5 in New York.
15:14:47 |\n| | 6 daily operation, including outfit--
15:12:00 | 6
Q. Okay. And that was --
15:14:47 |\n| 7 | Q. I'm not asking about -- I'm not asking about 15: 12:04 | A. I didn't convince him. I didn't convince
15:14:49
7 |\n| | 8 daily operations. I'm asking about a decision
15:12:07 | 8 him. They are all more than a million projects;
15:14:51 |\n| | 15:12: II
9 involving more than a million dollars. | 9 right?
15:14:54 |\n| 10 | Has there ever been --
15:12:15 | And I-- and I just testified this
10
15:14:54 |\n| 11 | A. I don't understand what you are asking
15:12:17 | 11 afternoon -- this morning, and he made decision about 15: 14:56 |\n| | 12 about. More than a million dollars is very general.
15: 12:20 | 12 the vehicles, which I don't align with that. But, of 15:15:00 |\n| | | |\n| | 13 I mean, I don't understand what you are asking, sir.
15: 12:23 | 13 course, we didn't get agreement, and he purchased the 15: 15 :06 |\n| 14 | Q. Okay. You just told me a moment ago that
15:12:25 | 14 cars. Because I don't agree with that; so that is
15:15:09 |\n| | 15 there have been occasions when you have disagreed
15: 12:28 | 15 the reason why I don't want to get too much of
15:15:12 |\n| | 16 with Mr. QiangGuo;right?
15:12:31 | 16 details, even as the president. We are a family
15:15:14 |\n| 17 | A. That's right.
15: 12:33 | 17 office;right?
15:15:18 |\n| 18 | Q. Okay. My question to you is has there ever
15:12:34 | Ifwedon'tgetalignedand--thatheis
18
15:15:19 |\n| | 19 been a disagreement between you and him about
15:12:38 | 19 the owner of the company about the director; right?
15:15:21 |\n| | 20 a decision that involved more than a million dollars? 15: 12:43 | 20
So he made the decision about the vehicles,
15:15:25 |\n| 21 | A. More than a million dollars?
15:12:48 | 21 and then I made the decision about the investment
15:15:30 |\n| 22 | Q. Yes.
15:12:52 | 22 opportunity. And then we did have disagreement. We
15:15:33 |\n| 23 | A. I mean, we did have some disagreements in
15: 12:53 | 23 take care of -- we take care of the result by the
15:15:35 |\n| | 24 the very beginning about some potential investment
15:12:58
25 project; so we didn't get agreement, and he was
15:13:01 | 24 end.
15:15:37
25
Q. Okay. All right. And so there -- I think
15:15:37 |\n\n46 (Pages 1 78 - 181)\n\n| 1 I understand your answer, but there are two things
15:15:39 | Q. Well, then tell me -- tell me another
15:18:50 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 that I just want to clarify and make sure of.
15:15:43 | 2 example then. Tell me another example of a decision
15: 18:54 |\n| Number one, examples of disagreement.
15: 15:45
3 | 3 involving more than a million dollars with which you
15:18:57 |\n| 4 I asked you about timing. You just explained that
15:15:48 | 4 disagree and your opinion prevailed, besides the real 15: 19 :00 |\n| 5 one of those examples was when you were appointed in
15:15:52 | 5 estate project that you have already mentioned three
15:19:05 |\n| 6 2018the--youmentionedarealestateproject.
15:15:55 | 6 times.
15:19:08 |\n| 7 Understood.
15:15:59 | 7
Any other example?
15:19:09 |\n| You also mentioned the vehicles just now
15:16:00
8 | 8
A. I answered already.
15:19:12 |\n| 9 that we were talking about earlier today.
15:16:03 | Q. Are any of the \\$21 million in litigation
9
15:19:14 |\n| Any other examples that you can think of?
15:16:07
10 | 10 loans to Golden Spring (New York) expected to be
15: 19:29 |\n| A. You are asking me about more than a million, 15:16:12
11 | 11 repaid?
15:19:32 |\n| 12 which -- I mean, the advisement project, they are
15:16:19 | 12
A. Yes.
15:19:34 |\n| 13 more than a million.
15:16:23 | Q. Are any of the loans in writing?
15:19:34
13 |\n| Q. I understand. And I got that.
14
15:16:24 | 14
A. Yes.
15:19:41 |\n| I'm asking whether there are any other
15:16:26
15 | Q. Have you seen the -- the documents for any
15:19:41
15 |\n| 16 examples, besides those two.
15:16:29 | 16 of the loans?
15:19:49 |\n| A. Weareafamilyofficeinhere. Ifyouare
17
15:16:32 | 17
A. Yes.
15:19:53 |\n| | Q. Where are they?
15:19:53
18 |\n| 18 asking about his father's legal thing, I mean that
15:16:39
19 his father-- as per Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, his
15:16:44 | 19
A. They are in my office.
15:19:55 |\n| 20 father might want to bring some litigation, which he
15: 16:47 | 20
Q. On East 64th Street or wherever?
15:20:02 |\n| 21 was asking my advice, which I give him my advice and
15:16:51 | A. What do you mean, wherever?
15:20:09
21 |\n| 22 then he took it to support his father or not. That
15: 16: 56 | 22
Q. I'm sorry. I'm trying to avoid using the
15:20:11 |\n| 23 happened also.
15: 16:59 | 23 exact address.
15:20:15 |\n| 24
Q. With respect -- with respect to the -- the
15:17:00 | 24
Are they at the family office in
15:20:15 |\n| 25 vehicles, I believe you said that even though you
15: 17:05 | 25 New York City?
15:20: 18 |\n| | |\n| Page 182 | Page 184 |\n| | |\n| 1 disagreed, Mr. Qiang Guo decided to buy the vehicles
15:17:09 | A. I believe in the morning of -- this morning
1
15:20:18 |\n| 2 anyway; right?
15: 17:14 | 2 I already testified my address, which you have it,
15:20:21 |\n| A. That's right.
15:17:16
3 | 3 sir. It is on the 64th Street office, Golden Spring
15:20:25 |\n| 4
Q. Okay. Andisn'tthattruethat,ingeneral, 15:17:19 | 4 (New York)'s office.
15:20:29 |\n| 5 if you disagree, as you said, Mr. Qiang Guo is going
15: 17:29 | 5
Q. Okay.
15:20:29 |\n| 6 to be the one who decides, according to you?
15:17:34 | A. You don't need to avoid mentioning the
15:20:30
6 |\n| 15:17:38
7
A. No. | 7 address, sir. You have it.
15:20:34 |\n| It is -- it happened on his side also. If
8
15:17:41 | Q. Well, forgive me for being extra careful in
15:20:36
8 |\n| 9 I don't disagree, he will go with me.
15:17:46 | 9 light of your security concerns.
15:20:40 |\n| Q. Okay. Can you think of an example where you 15: 17:49
10 | A. Thank you.
15:20:43
10 |\n| 11 have disagreed and your point of view prevailed and
15:17:57 | Q. Is that -- is that the address where the
15:20:44
11 |\n| 12 the decision at issue involved more than a million
15: 18: 10 | 12 loan documents are located?
15:20:45 |\n| 13 dollars?
15:18:14 | 13
A. Correct.
15:20:47 |\n| A. Sir, Ijustrepliedtoyourquestion. Like, 15:18:17
14 | 14
Q. How many such loan documents are there?
15:20:47 |\n| 15 the real estate property investment project.
15:18:21 | A. Several of them.
15:20:51
15 |\n| Q. Besides -- besides that one.
15:18:25
16 | 16
Q. More than ten?
15:20:52 |\n| A. !mean, as I explained, that is our business 15:18:29
17 | A. Several of them.
17
15:20:58 |\n| 18 plan; right?
15:18:32 | Q. Do you know whether it is more than ten or
15:21:00
18 |\n| We do real estate investment.
15:18:33
19 | 19 not?
15:21:02 |\n| 20
Ialreadytestifiedthatasafamilyoffice; 15:18:35 | A. I replied, several of them.
20
15:21:04 |\n| 21 right?
15:18:38 | Q. Did you sign them?
15:21:07
21 |\n| 22
Q. I'm -- I'm going to interpret your answer as 15: 18:39 | 22
A. Yes.
15:21:11 |\n| 23 that is the only example you can think of.
15:18:42 | Q. Who signed them for the borrower?
15:21:12
23 |\n| 24
A. I don't agree. I don't agree. This is not
15:18:44
25 my answer. I give you my answer very clear.
15: 18:47 | 24
A. The borrower signed it.
15:21:19
25
Q. Who is the borrower?
15:21:23 |\n\n47 (Pages 182 - 185)\n\n| 1
A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.
15:21:25 | 1 specifically do you mean by documented?
15:24:25 |\n|------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| Q. Okay. Were you present when he signed them? 15:21:27
2 | 2
MR. HARBACH: Sure.
15:24:28 |\n| A. I don't recall.
3
15:21:30 | 3
What I mean is that the witness has
15:24:30 |\n| Q. Okay. How many of the \\$21 million in loan
4 | 4 indicated earlier in her testimony that some of the
15:21:33
15:24:34 |\n| 5 are undocumented?
15:21 :42 | 5 loans were in writing and that there were loan
15:24:38 |\n| A. I don't recall. I couldn't give you the
15:21:44
6 | 6 agreements; so that is how I interpreted her answer.
15:24:44 |\n| 7 precise number.
15:21:50 | 7 And I -- and I gather that some ofthem were and some 15:24:47 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Okay. Well, we'll -- we'll
8 | 8 of them weren't. And so when I say documented loans, 15:24:50
15:21:51 |\n| 9 request -- Scott, we'll request that Golden Spring | 15:21:54
9 I mean the loans for which there is a written loan
15:24:54 |\n| 10 (New York) Limited immediately produce to us all of | 15 :21:59
10 agreement that she signed and that the borrower
15:24:58 |\n| 11 the documents that the witness has just described, | 15:22:02
11 signed.
15:25:03 |\n| 12 namely, the loan agreements substantiating any | 15:22:09
Does that help?
15:25:05
12 |\n| 13 portion of the \\$21 million in litigation loans that | 15:22:13
MR. ROSEN: Yes.
15:25:06
13 |\n| 14 the debtor has taken out from Golden Spring | 15 :22: 16
14
Thank you.
15:25:08 |\n| 15 (New York).
15:22:20 | MR. HARBACH: Okay.
15:25:09
15 |\n| MR. ROSEN: I understand the request, and we 15:22:21
16 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:25:10 |\n| 17 will take it under advisement.
15:22:23 | 17
Q. So Ms. Wang, does that change -- that
15:25:10 |\n| 18
MR. HARBACH: Okay.
15:22:25 | 18 doesn't change any of your answers, I assume.
15:25:13 |\n| 19 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:22:29 | Did you understand what! meant?
19
15:25:15 |\n| Q. Ms. Wang, are you familiar with the terms of 15:22:29
20 | A. I replied my question. That is the best of 15:25: 17
20 |\n| 21 any of those loans, meaning the litigation loans? | 15:22:32
21 my knowledge for this second.
15:25:22 |\n| 22
A. They are loans. They have interest. They | Q. Okay. So just to make -- just to -- to
15:22:36
22
15 :25 :24 |\n| 23 should be paid back.
15:22:43 | 23 recap and make sure I understand.
15:25:27 |\n| 24
Q. What interest rate?
15:22:44 | 24
There is approximately \\$21 million in
15:25:31 |\n| A. I couldn't remember clearly. I couldn't
15:22:46
25 | 25 litigation loans that have been made by Golden Spring 15:25:35 |\n| | |\n| | Page 186
Page 188 |\n| | |\n| I remember clearly. Like, 2, 3 percent. I couldn't | 15:22:53
I (New York) to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?
15:25:39 |\n| 2 remember.
15:22:56 | 2
A. Correct.
15:25:41 |\n| 3
Q. Who negotiated the interest rate on those | Q. And some ofthose loans are -- are
15:22:56
3
15:25:47 |\n| 4 loans for Golden Spring (New York)? | 15:22:59
4 documented, by which I mean there is a written loan
15:25:50 |\n| 5
A. Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we designed it. | 15:23:01
5 agreement; correct?
15:25:55 |\n| 6
Q. Who negotiated with the -- the borrower, | 15:23:06
6
A. Correct.
15:25:57 |\n| 7 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, for the interest rate on these | 15:23:13
7
Besides that, we do have notes, like, on our 15:25:59 |\n| 8 loans?
15:23:16 | 8 financial book that recorded as a loan also.
15:26:06 |\n| A. I don't recall.
15:23:18
9 | Q. Okay. And then some of those loans do not
9
15:26:08 |\n| 10
Q. Did you communicate with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok | 15:23:21
10 have a -- a loan agreement in writing; correct?
15:26:11 |\n| 11 about the interest rate on these loans?
15:23:26 | A. But in our financial records it is
15:26:16
11 |\n| 12
A. I don't recall.
15:23:29 | 12 documented as a loan; correct.
15:26:20 |\n| Q. Is the interest rate the same on all of the
15:23:32
13 | Q. I understand. I understand.
15:26:22
13 |\n| 14 loans?
15:23:38 | 14
But my point is for those, there is not
15:26:24 |\n| A. As far as I know, I remember, yes.
15:23:39
15 | 15 a loan agreement that you signed and that
15:26:28 |\n| Q. Is the total figure of approximately
16
15:23:45 | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok signed that contains an interest rate 15:26:31 |\n| 17 \\$21 million in litigation loans about correct, to | 15:23:50
I 7 and formal terms; right?
15:26:36 |\n| 18 yourrecollection?
15:23:56 | 18
A. Correct.
15:26:40 |\n| 19
A. Approximately number -- yes. Correct. | 15:23:57
19
There were some other loans between
15:26:41 |\n| Q. Okay. And approximately how much of that
20 | 15:24:02
20 Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok also.
15:26:45 |\n| 21 21 million is in documented loans?
15:24:05 | 21
Q. Okay.
15:26:47 |\n| A. I don't have it on the top of my head.
22
15:24:08 | 22
A. So financial notes was the loan agreement
15:26:48 |\n| 23
MR. ROSEN: Can I ask, David, can you please 15:24:18 | 23 and then with our loan --
15:26:52 |\n| 24 clarify.
15:24:21 | 24
Q. Okay.
15:26:55 |\n| 25
When you say documented loans, what | 15:24:22
A. -- agreement.
15:26:56
25
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Page 189 |\n\n48 (Pages 186 - 189)\n\n| Q. And so for the ones -- not the ones that
15:26:57 | MR. HARBACH: Sure.
15:29:50 |\n|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 were oral, but the ones that are in writing, you said 15:26:59 | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:29:51 |\n| 3 those documents are currently at the East 64th Street 15:27:04 | Q. Was Golden Spring (New York) Limited
15:29:52
3 |\n| 4 office; correct?
15:27:12 | 4 involved in assisting Mr. Kwok in filling out his
15:29:54 |\n| A. Correct.
15:27:13
5 | 5 bankruptcy schedules or his statement of financial
15:29:58 |\n| MR. HARBACH: Okay. So Scott, it is those
15:27:15
6 | 6 affairs?
15:30:01 |\n| 7 documents that we are requesting.
15:27:19 | A. No.
15:30:03
7 |\n| MR. ROSEN: I understand.
15:27:20
8 | Q. What about Mr. K wok's monthly operating
8
15:30:04 |\n| Thank you.
15:27:22
9 | 9 reports? Do you know what those are?
15:30:14 |\n| 10 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:27:22 | 10
A. Yes.
15:30:17 |\n| II
Q. Okay. Now, Ms. Wang, with respect to the
15:27:23 | Q. Okay. Was anyone at Golden Spring
15:30:20
11 |\n| 12 oral loans, who recorded them?
15:27:26 | 12 (New York) involved in helping prepare
15:30:24 |\n| A. What do you mean, who recorded them? For
15:27:31
13 | 13 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's monthly operating reports?
15:30:28 |\n| 14 Golden Spring?
15:27:34 | 14
A. We were requested to pull out his lifestyle
15:30:31 |\n| 15:27:34
15
Q. Yes, ma'am. | 15 expenses. That is, I directed Golden Spring to help. 15:30:40 |\n| I think you just mentioned a moment ago that 15:27:35
16 | Q. Okay. Who made the request to you?
15:30:47
16 |\n| 17 even the loans that were not documented with a loan
15 :27:39 | 17
A. I couldn't remember. Probably his attorney. 15:30:49 |\n| 18 agreement were recorded on the books of Golden Spring 15:27:41 | 18 I couldn't remember.
15:30:57 |\n| 19 (New York); right?
15:27:46 | Q. Okay. And ifl understand you correctly,
19
15:30:58 |\n| 20
A. Correct.
15:27:47 | 20 you directed one of your employees to assist?
15:31:00 |\n| Q. So I'm asking who recorded them on the
15:27:47
21 | A. Correct.
15:31:06
21 |\n| 22 books?
15:27:50 | 22
MR. HARBACH: Okay. And I'll just note for
15:31:07 |\n| 23
A. Golden Spring's finance.
15:27:51 | 23 the record, Scott, that I won't ask who that person
15:31:09 |\n| 24
Q. Okay. Was that at your direction?
15:27:55 | 24 is because I understand that you will object on the
15:31:17 |\n| 25
A. Correct.
15:27:59 | 25 same basis as before. And I'll just note that we
15:31:20 |\n| Page 190 | Page 192 |\n| | |\n| | |\n| Q. How did you learn about the terms of those
15:28:00
I | I continue to disagree with that objection.
15:31:24 |\n| 2 oral loans?
15:28:04
A. I got to know from Mr. Qiang Guo also.
15:28:07
3 | 2
Is that okay?
15:31:26
3 |\n| Q. Were you personally involved in negotiating
15 :28: 10
4 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.
15:31:27
4 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:31:35 |\n| 5 any or -- or tendering any oral loans to
15:28:16 | Q. Do you know what the firm Verdolino & Lowey 15:31:35
5 |\n| 6 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
15:28:22 | |\n| A. I didn't attend the -- the conversation
15:28:23
7 | 6 is?
15:31:42
7
A. Verdolino Lowey.
15:31:43 |\n| 8 between Mr. Qiang Guo and his father, no. I didn't.
15:28:30 | 8
15:31:45 |\n| 9
15:28:33 | Q. Have you ever heard of them?
9
A. No.
15:31:48 |\n| Q. HasMr.HoWanKwokeveraskedyoufor
10 a loan from Golden Spring?
15:28:36 | I don't recall. |\n| A. I don't recall.
15:28:38
11 | 10
15:31:53
Q. Okay. Do you know who Craig Jalbert is?
15 :31: 53
11 |\n| 12
Q. Does that mean it is possible that he has?
15:28:40 | A. I don't know this name.
12
15:31:59 |\n| A. I don't recall.
15:28:49
13 | Q. Okay.
15:31:59
13 |\n| Q. With apologies if I asked you this question
14
15 :28:57 | 14
A. Craig Jalbert.
15:32:02 |\n| 15 before. I honestly don't remember.
15:29:00 | 15
Q. This may seem obvious from your earlier
15:32:03 |\n| 16
Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
15:29:02 | 16 answer, but please bear with me.
15:32:15 |\n| 17 about any of the litigation loans, whether oral or
15:29:06 | 17
Leaving aside the person's name, is it true
15:32:18 |\n| 18 written?
15:29:11 | 18 that there are personnel at Golden Spring (New York)
15:32:26 |\n| 19
A. I don't recall.
15:29: 12 | 19 Limited who could assist in compiling and calculating 15:32:31 |\n| 20
Q. Were you personally involved in helping
15:29:13 | 20 the lifestyle expenses of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
15:32:40 |\n| 21 Mr. Kwok fill out his bankruptcy schedules and his
15:29:33 | A. Yes.
15:32:48
21 |\n| 22 statement of financial affairs?
15:29:38 | 22
Q. Focusing now just for a moment on those
15:32:49 |\n| 23
MR. ROSEN: Objection. The witness is not
15:29:41 | 23 lifestyle expenses.
15:33:07 |\n| 24 here to testify in her personal capacity. I would
15:29:44 | 24
Okay?
15:33:10 |\n| 25 ask you to rephrase the question.
15:29:48 | 25
A. Yes.
15:33:12 |\n\n49 (Pages 190 - 193)\n\n| Q. Has -- has Mr. Kwok ever made any requests
15:33:12 | 1 safety of his father; so the communication that
15:36:17 |\n|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2 to you to have Golden Spring (New York) pay for
15:33:21 | 2 happens between Ho Wan Kwok and the security to
15:36:21 |\n| 3 expenses related to his lifestyle?
15:33:28 | 3 arrange the trip to Manhattan; so that one I don't
15:36:22 |\n| 15:33:31
4
Excuse me. | 4 need to get involved because it is too small for me.
15:36:26 |\n| 5
A. I don't recall, but it is possible.
15:33:33 | Q. Okay. And then what about other day-to-day
15:36:30
5 |\n| 6
Q. Okay. What I'm asking about is, you know,
15:33:39 | 6 lifestyle needs, like in a recent proceeding the --
15:36:34 |\n| 7 hey, Yvette, I need Golden Spring to pay for me to
15:33:46 | 7 the U.S. Trustee asked about what ifhe needed to buy 15:36:42 |\n| 8 drive to Manhattan or I need Golden Spring to pay for 15:33:52 | 8 a pair of shoes?
15:36:47 |\n| 9 this suit that I need for my trip to court -- things
15:33:57 | Just walk us through how that happens.
15:36:49
9 |\n| 10 like that.
15:34:02 | 10
A. I don't even -- I mean, yes. I review some
15:36:52 |\n| Does he make requests to you like that?
15:34:03
11 | 11 of the credit card bill or the bills, but I do have
15:36:56 |\n| A. I don't recall. But there was some requests 15:34:06
12 | 12 my finance. I mean, I don't need to do finance job.
15 :37:00 |\n| 13 that he made -- he made to me, like, as before, like, 15:34: 15 | 13 I don't even remember to see very often he buys
15:37:04 |\n| 14 buy some very expensive, like, furniture, I believe.
15:34: 19 | 14 shoes. I mean --
15:37:09 |\n| 15 And I -- obviously, it is more than his lifestyle.
15:34:22 | Q. Does he buy anything?
15:37:12
15 |\n| 16 I report itto Mr. Qiang Guo, and Mr. Qiang Guo
15:34:26 | 16
A. Yes.
15:37:14 |\n| 17 reject it --
15:34:29 | 17
He buy -- he buy clothes, yes.
15:37:16 |\n| 18
Q. Okay.
15:34:29 | 18
Q. Okay. So how does he buy clothes?
15:37:20 |\n| 19
A. -- so I reject it to him also.
15:34:30 | 19
A. He buy clothes from the shops, I believe.
15:37:23 |\n| 20
Q. Right.
15:34:32 | 20
Q. Okay. Does he physically go to the shops or 15:37:28 |\n| A. Yeah.
15:34:34
21 | 21 does he shop online?
15:37:32 |\n| 22
Q. I'm asking about, you know, day-to-day
15:34:34 | MR. HARBACH: Scott, I promise I am just
22
15:37:34 |\n| 23 stuff, like the -- however -- you know, I don't mind
15 :34:37 | 23 trying to understand. I don't -- I won't dwell here
15:37:37 |\n| 24 telling you it has been a real mystery to all ofus
15:34:43 | 24 unnecessarily.
15:37:39 |\n| 25 creditors and, I think, to the U.S. Trustee how
15:34:48 | 25 Ill |\n| Page 194 | Page 196 |\n| | |\n| I Mr. Kwok pays for things. We really have had
15:34:52 | I BY MR. HARBACH:
15:37:40 |\n| 2 a difficult time figuring out how that happens. And
15:34:55 | Q. Go ahead, Ms. Wang.
15:37:41
2 |\n| 3 so I am hoping that you can help me understand
15:34:58 | A. I don't get involves in his personal life;
15:37:43
3 |\n| 4 a little bit because, according to him, Golden Spring 15 :35:01 | 4 so I cannot say.
15:37:47 |\n| 5 (New York) Limited pays for all this stuff. And
15:35:04 | Q. So you don't -- you don't know whether he
15:37:48
5 |\n| 6 since you are the president and treasurer of
15:35:07 | 6 likes to go in the stores to shop orhe shops online? 15:37:51 |\n| 7 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, I'm hoping you can
15:35:09 | 7
A. I do see bills from the shops, which
15:37:57 |\n| 8 help us understand.
15:35:14 | 8 !verify. Ihavethefinanceverifythatitwashis
15:38:03 |\n| So I know we talked earlier about your
15:35: 15
9 | 9 purchase.
15:38:08 |\n| 10 review of credit card bills and -- and so forth, but
15 :35: 17 | 10
Q. Okay.
15:38:08 |\n| II for something like that, say Mr. -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok
15:35:21 | A. We take care of that; so I don't need to
15:38:09
11 |\n| 12 needs to take a trip into Manhattan for some reason
15:35:26 | 12 follow him --
15:38:13 |\n| 13 and he needs a car.
15:35:30 | Q. All right.
15:38: 13
13 |\n| 14
Does he come to you? I mean, you say you
15:35:33 | 14
A. -- where he goes; right?
15:38:14 |\n| 15 run the day-to-day operations of Golden Spring.
15:35:36 | So I don't know --
15:38:14
15 |\n| 16
Does he come to you or -- or send you
15:35:40 | 16
Q. No.
15:38:17 |\n| 17 a message and say, hey, I need a car set up? I mean, 15 :35 :42 | 17
I -- I know that. I'm not suggesting you
15:38:17 |\n| 18 how does that work?
15:35:46 | 18 follow him.
15:38: 19 |\n| 19
A. Okay. So to reply to this specific
15:35:48 | What I'm really just trying to understand is 15:38:20
19 |\n| 20 question, as the president of a company, I mean,
15:35:50 | 20 how does the transaction happen? Mr. Kwok walks into 15:38:23 |\n| 21 I already don't deal with this kind of very small
15:35:53 | 21 Saks Fifth Avenue and sees a suit he wants to buy.
15:38:29 |\n| 22 request from him; so Golden Spring does have
15:35:57 | 22 Let's just pretend that's what happens.
15:38:35 |\n| 23 a security which, as you understood probably, sir,
15:36:01 | 23
Okay?
15:38:37 |\n| 24 like as per Mr. Qiang, was a regiment because
15:36:06 | 24
And he is in there, and he says, I like that 15:38:38 |\n| 25 Mr. Qiang would -- does care the most is the life
15:36:13 | 25 suit. And he tries it on, and it looks good, and so
15:38:41 |\n\n50 (Pages 194 - 197)\n\n| 1 he wants to buy it.
15:38:45 | Q. Okay. So I think you do know my question,
15:41:55 |\n|--------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2
What happens next? How does it get from
15:38:47 | 2 and it is really not hard. But it seems to be really 15:42:02 |\n| 3 there to being on a bill that you see?
15:38:49 | 3 hard to get an answer to it.
15:42:06 |\n| A. Oh, that doesn't happen often at all. That
15:38:54
4 | How does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok purchase things,
15:42:10
4 |\n| 5 is number one. And that did happen before. Like,
15:38:58 | 5 and how does what -- something that he wants to buy
15:42:20 |\n| 6 sometimes I can see from the securities credit
15:39:03 | 6 and buys end up on a bill for you to review? And you 15:42:23 |\n| 7 card-- debit card -- let me correct -- to see that
15:39:07 | 7 have given me one example.
15:42:27 |\n| 8 purchase. And then, obviously, my finance will dive
15:39:10 | You said there are times when Mr. Qiang Guo
8
15:42:29 |\n| 9 in and verify and confirm that he has purchased. But 15:39:14 | 9 will purchase something, and it will then end up on
15:42:31 |\n| 10 that does not happen often at all.
15:39:17 | 10 a bill for you to review and verify; right?
15:42:35 |\n| Q. Okay. Well, you did mention that he buys
15:39:21
11 | A. No.
15:42:42
11 |\n| 12 clothes; right?
15:39:24 | That is not my answer. You misunderstood
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15:42:42 |\n| 13
A. Yes.
15:39:27 | 13 me, sir.
15:42:45 |\n| Q. Okay. So you give me an example of how he
15:39:28
14 | Q. Okay. Please explain.
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15:42:46 |\n| 15 will buy some clothes.
15:39:34 | A. I will use my translator since you have been 15:42:49
15 |\n| If the Saks Fifth Avenue example doesn't
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15:39:36 | 16 misunderstanding me along the way, which I don't feel 15:42:53 |\n| 17 happen very often, tell me what does happen.
15:39:40 | 17 you get this. Sorry.
15:42:57 |\n| A. He just doesn't buy clothes very often, not
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15:39:43 | Like, can I have my interpreter --
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15:43:01 |\n| 19 only the shoes at Saks Fifth Avenue.
15:39:49 | 19
Q. Absolutely.
15:43:04 |\n| Q. Does Mr. Kwok have a credit card?
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15:39:54 | 20
A. -- I mean, to help me.
15:43:05 |\n| A. As far as I know, he doesn't have. At least 15:40:07
21 | 21
Q. Absolutely.
15:43:06 |\n| 22 Golden Spring never give him.
15:40:12 | MR. HARBACH: So for clarity of the record,
22
15:43:07 |\n| 23
Q. Does he have a debit card?
15:40:14 | 23 Ms. Johnston, the question is I'm trying to
15:43 :09 |\n| 24
A. Golden Spring didn't give him.
15:40:17 | 24 understand how -- when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok wants to
15:43:13 |\n| 25
Q. How do the things that he does purchase end
15 :40:20 | 25 purchase something, how does it get -- from the
15:43:16 |\n| Page 198 | Page 200 |\n| 1 up on a bill that you review? Tell me how that
15:40:25 | I decision by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok to purchase something,
15:43:20 |\n| 2 happens
15:4030 | 2 how does that end up on a bill that Ms. Wang sees?
15:43:25 |\n| A. For his clothes, I mean, I know, like,
15:40:31 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)
15:43:29
3 |\n| 4 Mr. Qiang Guo, he has some shops in Manhattan. When 15:40:36 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)
4
15:43:29 |\n| 5 he ism Manhattan he -- he -- I mean, quite often
15:40:43 | 5 Okay. First of all, when I say when I review bills,
15:44:38 |\n| 6 shopping there, and sometimes I saw the bill from the 15:40:49 | 6 those were only in respect to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's
15:44:44 |\n| 7 shop, which I -- obviously finance will need to
15:40:52 | 7 purchase for clothing and shoes. And Mr. Qiang Guo
15:44:47 |\n| 8 verify. If not, Mr. Qiang Guo purchase. But, like,
15:40:55 | 8 has certain shops he goes to on a regular basis; so
15:44:51 |\n| 9 his father has purchased. That happened before; so
15:40:59 | 9 if his father were to shop there, then the shop would 15 :44: 57 |\n| 10 like -- that is, like, in my understanding
15:41:03 | 10 know to send the bill to New York Golden Spring; so
15:45:02 |\n| 11 :tvrr. Qiang Guo took care of his father.
15:4106 | 11 in other words his father's purchase was under
15:45: 10 |\n| Q. So Mr. QiangGuowillbuysomethingforhis 15:41:08
12 | 12 Mr. Qiang Guo's profile.
15:45:14 |\n| 13 dad, finance it.
15:41: 12 | 13
I don't think maybe you understood what
15:45:16 |\n| Golden Spring will verify that how? By
14
15:41 :14 | 14 I meant. That is why I wanted the interpreter to
15:45:18 |\n| 15 calling :tvrr. Qiang Guo and asking him?
15:41 :16 | 15 interpret for me.
15:45:21 |\n| A. Sometimes we do that, yes.
16
15:41 :19 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:45:23 |\n| Q. Okay. And when Mr. Qiang Guo is in the UK,
17
15:41 :21 | Q. Thank you very much.
17
15:45:23 |\n| 18 as you have told me is where he lives, how does that 15:41:27 | And I do understand that example.
18
15:45:26 |\n| 19 changethings? HowdoesMr.--Mr.HoWanKwokbuy
15:41:31 | 19
What about for groceries?
15:45:28 |\n| 20 something while his son is in the UK?
15:41:36 | 20
A. (In English) Groceries, I mean, he lives in 15:45:33 |\n| A. What do you mean, change things? I mean,
15:41 :39
21 | 21 his wife's house; so ifthere is any grocery needed
15:45:41 |\n| 22 the shops obviously know Mr. Qiang Guo, whether he is 15:41 :43 | |\n| | 22 to be purchased, it is for both of them; so what
15:45:45 |\n| 23 in New York or not; so the father came and then
15:41:47 | 23 Golden Spring was requested to pull out, like,
15:45:51 |\n| 24 shopping there. I mean, I don't know what is your
15 :41 :52 | 24 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, his grocery purchase from his wife,
15:45:58 |\n| 15 4154
25 question, sir. | 25 like a general purchase; so I mean, the husband, the
15:46:03 |\n\n51 (Pages 198 - 201)\n\n| | 1 wife live together. He is living in his wife's
15:46:08 | 1 | THE WITNESS: I don't know.
15:48:20 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 house. It doesn't make sense, like, he buy his own
15 :46: 11 | 2 | MR. ROSEN: She testified numerous times
15:48:25 |\n| | 3 stuff, separate account.
15:46:14 | | 3 that he is not authorized as a user of the card, and
15:48:27 |\n| 4 | Q. I understand that.
15:46:15 | | 4 she has answered this question numerous times.
15:48:30 |\n| 5 | I'm just asking how the groceries are paid
15:46:16 | 5 | MR. HARBACH: I don't believe she said -- it 15:48:32 |\n| | 6 for.
15:46:19 | | 6 wasn't a question of whether he was an authorized
15:48:32 |\n| 7 | A. It paid by Golden Spring also.
15:46:21 | | 7 user. I believe she said that he never used it.
15:48:35 |\n| 8 | Q. Same question as before.
15:46:26 | | 8 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:48:38 |\n| 9 | Do they just go to a grocery store and the
15:46:29 | 9 | Q. Does his wife use it?
15:48:38 |\n| | 10 grocery store sends the bill to Golden Spring? Or do 15:46:34 | 10 | A. Usewhat?
15:48:40 |\n| | 11 they buy their groceries online? How does that work? 15:46:38 | 11 | Q. The debit card or the credit card to buy
15:48:42 |\n| 12 | A. Grocery, most of them go with the debit
15:46:42 | | 12 groceries?
15:48:47 |\n| | 13 card.
15:46:46 | 13 | A. It is possible.
15 :48:48 |\n| 14 | Q. Okay.
15:46:46 | 14 | Q. Do you know one way or the other?
15:48:51 |\n| 15 | A. And buy--
15:46:47 | 15 | A. I mean, I don't live in their home; right?
15:48:59 |\n| 16 | Q. So
15:46:50 | | 16 Who is buying groceries? From my end, I can't see,
15:49:03 |\n| 17 | A. And buy online also, yes.
15:46:52 | | 17 like, an Amazon purchase or, like, a Whole Foods
15:49:09 |\n| 18 | Q. Okay. And so even if the purchase is
15:46:53 | | 18 purchase. Who uses those cards? I need to find out. 15:49:11 |\n| | 19 online, some sort of card, like if it is a debit card 15:46:56 | 19 | Q. Okay. So it sounds like, from what you just 15:49:14 |\n| | 20 or a credit card, needs to be used; right?
15:47:03 | | 20 said, it could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife or it 15:49:19 |\n| 21 | A. Correct.
15:47:07 | | 21 could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, couldn't it?
15:49:23 |\n| 22 | Q. Okay. Who uses that card?
15:47:08 | 22 | A. I'm not giving you an answer in here because 15:49:26 |\n| 23 | A. Who use that card?
15:47:10 | | 23 I don't know.
15:49:32 |\n| 24 | They -- people. I mean, his wife use it
15:47:16 | 24 | Q. That is what I'm getting at. You don't
15:49:32 |\n| | 25 also.
15:47:20 | | 25 know.
15:49:35 |\n| | Page 202 | | Page 204 |\n| | | | |\n| | | | |\n| I | Q. Does he ever use the --
15:47:20 | | From what you are looking at on the bill,
15:49:36 |\n| 2 | A. !mean--
15:47:23 | | 2 you don't know who used the card, do you? Do you?
15:49:38 |\n| 3 | Q. Does he ever use the card?
15:47:24 | 3 | A. Youaretalkingaboutgrocery?
15:49:47 |\n| 4 | A. I don't think so. He doesn't read English
15:47:26 | 4 | Q. I'm talking about the examples you just
15:49:49 |\n| | 5 at all, so
15:47:30 | | 5 gave, Whole Foods or whatever else.
15:49:51 |\n| 6 | Q. I mean, well, I don't know that you need to
15:47:31 | 6 | When you see that on the bill, you just said 15:49:53 |\n| | 7 read English to use a credit card or a debit card.
15:47:33 | | 7 you don't know who uses the card; correct?
15:49:56 |\n| 8 | Does he ever use the card to make purchases
15:47:37 | 8 | A. The family uses the card. I do know. The
15:50:00 |\n| | 9 himself?
15:47:42 | | 9 family uses the card.
15:50:04 |\n| 10 | A. Which time period you are asking about and
15:47:42 | 10 | Q. Sure. Sure.
15:50:06 |\n| | 11 by what kind of purchase methods?
15:47:44 | 11 | And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the
15:50:07 |\n| 12 | Q. You--
15:47:44 | | 12 family, isn't he?
15:50: 10 |\n| 13 | A. If you are asking about online, he doesn't
15:47:47 | 13 | A. Correct.
15:50:12 |\n| | 14 read English.
15:47:50 | 14 | But he does not read English at all.
15:50:13 |\n| 15 | I mean, you have to be able to read English
15:47:51 | 15 | Q. Okay. Does his wife?
15:50: 16 |\n| | 16 to shopping online; right?
15:47:53 | 16 | A. His wife what?
15:50:18 |\n| 17 | Q. Does that --
15:47:53 | 17 | Q. Does his wife read English?
15:50:21 |\n| 18 | A. So with that, I can confirm he doesn't.
15:47:54 | 18 | A. I don't believe so.
15:50:24 |\n| 19 | Q. Were -- well, number one, I'm pretty sure
15:47:55 | 19 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Give me just thirty
15:50:29 |\n| | 20 there are Websites in Chinese.
15:48:00 | | 20 seconds, please.
15:50:32 |\n| 21 | And, number two, let's just stick with the
15:48:03 | | 21 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:53:11 |\n| | 22 grocery example.
15:48:06 | 22 | Q. Thank you for your patience. Hopefully
15:53:12 |\n| 23 | Does he ever use the credit card or the
15:48:11 | | 23 I saved us a little time by taking that break. A few 15:53: 14 |\n| 25 | 24 debit card to buy groceries?
15:48: 15
MR. ROSEN: Objection.
15:48:19 | 25 | 24 cleanup questions, and I think we are finished.
15:53:19
What is your understanding of how
15:53:22 |\n\n52 (Pages 202 - 205)\n\n| | 1 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is going to repay the \\$21 million in
15:53:24 | 1
One -- one -- the famous one more question
15:57: 11 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|\n| | 2 litigation loans?
15:53:28 | 2 that we lawyers like to ask.
15:57:14 |\n| 3 | A. I don't have understanding. I mean, he need 15:53:30 | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:57:16 |\n| | 4 to pay back those loans ifhe win the case and then,
15:53:38 | Q. You have mentioned a couple of times that
4
15:57:17 |\n| | 5 I mean, I assume there will be some success, and then 15:53:42 | 5 Golden Spring has enough money to carry on its daily
15 :57: 19 |\n| | 6 he should pay back the loan. That is all my
15:53:46 | 6 operations.
15:57:23 |\n| | 7 understanding.
15:53:49 | 7
What is the operating budget for
15:57:25 |\n| 8 | Q. Is there a Golden Spring (New York) owned
15:53:50 | 8 Golden Spring (New York) for those daily operations?
15:57:29 |\n| | 9 car that stays at Mr. and Ms. Kwok's residence?
15:53:54 | 9 The annual budget, say, approximately.
15:57:34 |\n| 10 | A. I don't recall. As I said, I am not a car
15:54:06 | 10
A. The annual is going to be anything
15:57:42 |\n| | 11 person. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo will deal with the car 15:54:09 | 11 between -- I mean, operating mean paying the lease,
15:57:47 |\n| | 12 at that part.
15:54:13 | 12 paying the employees and office supplies, furniture,
15:57:54 |\n| 13 | Q. Well, doesn't Golden Spring (New York)
15:54:14 | 13 everything.
15:57:59 |\n| | 14 Limited pay for a chauffeur for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?
15:54:17 | 14
Q. I'm asking, yeah, everything that you would
15:57:59 |\n| 15 | A. We pay the employees, yes.
15:54:23 | 15 lump under day-to-day operations, as you said
15:58:02 |\n| 16 | Q. Okay. And my question to you isn't about
15:54:26 | 16 earlier.
15:58:06 |\n| | 17 what kind of car it is.
15:54:30 | 17
A. I'm answering your question, sir.
15:58:07 |\n| 18 | I'm just asking whether there is a car and
15:54:32 | It is anything and everything between annual 15:58:10
18 |\n| | 19 a chauffeur that is available to Mr. Kwok whenever he 15:54:35 | 19 lease between 2 to 3 million, at least-- at least
15:58: 13 |\n| | 20 needs it.
15:54:39 | 20 the minimal.
15:58:17 |\n| 21 | A. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo would -- does rent
15:54:44 | 21
Q. Okay. All right. Those are all my
15:58:18 |\n| | 22 a car for his father, and then Golden Spring pay the
15 :54: 50 | 22 questions.
15:58:21 |\n| | 23 chauffeur. That is what I can confirm.
15:54:53 | MR. HARBACH: I don't know if any of the
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15:58:23 |\n| 24 | Q. Okay. Do you have personal knowledge of who 15:54:58 | 24 other counsel who have endured this to this point
15:58:24 |\n| | 25 owns the residence where they live?
15:55:04 | 25 want to ask any questions.
15:58:28 |\n| | Page 206 | Page 208 |\n| | | |\n| I | MR. HARBACH: Don't worry, Scott.
15:55:09 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: It doesn't sound like it. 15:58:39
I |\n| 2 | I won't stay here long.
15:55:11 | MR. HARBACH: All right. Well, Ms. Wang,
15:58:42
2 |\n| 3 | THE WITNESS: You are asking personal
15:55:15 | 3 thank you very much for your time and your patience
15:58:44 |\n| | 4 knowledge?
15:55: 18 | 4 with my questions today.
15:58:48 |\n| | 5 BY MR. HARBACH:
15:55:19 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are offthe record at
15:58:51
5 |\n| 6 | Q. I'm asking if you know.
15:55:19 | 6 3:58 p.m.
15:58:53 |\n| 7 | MR. ROSEN: If you know. It calls for
15:55:21 | 7
And this concludes today's testimony given
15:58:54 |\n| | 8 yes-or-no answer.
15:55:26 | 8 by Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for
15:58:57 |\n| 9 | THE WITNESS: I don't have personal
15:55:26 | 9 Golden Spring (New York).
15:59:00 |\n| | 10 knowledge.
15:55:28 | The total number of media units used was one 15:59:00
10 |\n| 11 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. I'm going to make
15:55:29 | 11 and will be retained by Veritext Legal Solutions.
15:59:04 |\n| | 12 a request, Scott, to supplement our earlier request
15:55:30 | MR. HARBACH: This is David Harbach, of
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16:03:38 |\n| | 13 for the loan documents.
15:55:39 | 13 O'Melveny & Myers, for Pacific Alliance.
16:04:03 |\n| 14 | I'm also going to request that Golden Spring 15:55:40 | 14
And I would like to supplement the
16:04:06 |\n| | 15 (New York) please promptly produce to us the
15:55:43 | 15 deposition exhibits with one additional exhibit that
16:04: 10 |\n| | 16 notations in the books and records that the witness
15: 5 5: 50 | 16 will be called Exhibit 6.
16:04: 13 |\n| | 17 referred to as evidencing the oral loans for
15:55:55 | 17
(Deposition Exhibit Number 6
16:04: 13 |\n| | 18 litigation.
15:56:02 | 18
was marked for identification.)
16:04:16 |\n| 19 | Do you understand what I'm talking about?
15:56:04 | MR. HARBACH: And it is the notice of
16:04: 16
19 |\n| 20 | MR. ROSEN: I'm just taking notes right now. 15:56:07 | 20 deposition for today's witness. I have spoken to the 16:04:21 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH: Okay.
15:56:10 | 21 deponent's counsel, Mr. Rosen, and he does not object 16:04:25 |\n| 22 | MR. ROSEN: I believe I understand your
15:56: 13 | 22 to it being added as an exhibit.
16:04:28 |\n| | 23 question, and we will take that under advisement.
15:56: 15 | MR. ROSEN: Can we put -- put it up on the
23
16:04:32 |\n| 24 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Those are -- just --
15:56:18 | 24 screen?
16:04:36 |\n| | 25 just one second, please.
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MR. HARBACH: Yes. Yes.
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6 | account 124:25 | 111:20 182:12 | 181:14 183:24,24 |\n| 9:19 20:5,12 26:2 | 125:8,11,14,22 | 186:17 207:23 | agreement 137:16 |\n| 26:11 27:5 37:6 | 126:22 127:1 | affairs 191:22 | 144:18 145:10,17 |\n| 38:6 44:20 65:19 | 128:4,6 202:3 | 192:6 | 145:22 146:8,21 |\n| 209:8,16,17 | 124:12
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65 | 31:4,5,5,11 51:4 | 60:10,12,14 61:13 | 181:13 188:10 |\n| 7 | 76:1,4,13 | 61:25 62:5,8,16 | 189:5.10.15.22.25 |\n| | acronym 132:12 | 63:10,11,13,21,24 | 190:18 |\n| 7
2:7,17 | action
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2:18 | actions
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213:3 | additional 209:15 | affiliation
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157:21 |\n| ல் | 184:23 185:2,7,11 | 112:20
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64:14 168:23 | advance 117:11 | 98:18 103:18 | american
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200:21 | | 140:16,24 145:1,3 | |\n\n| annual
168: 18 | answering
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6:2 11: 14 | answers
97: 17 | 21:6 24: 11 65: 10 | 144:7 160:25 |\n| 12:14 13:15 16:12 | 188: 18 | 73:20,25 113:16 | 164:25 169:8 |\n| 20: 11 22:9, 10 | anybody
164:22 | 127:6,16 129:13 | 177 :22 178: 11, 17 |\n| 23:2126:16 29:12 | anyway
94: 13 | 130:3 152:4 177:7 | 180: 11 182:4 |\n| 29:13 31:2133:14 | 183:2 | 187:16,19,20 | 191:9,14 196:7 |\n| 33:15 35:9,16,17 | apart
156: 1 | 188:24 208:9 | asking
27:3,4 31 :4 |\n| 35:22 37:2, 15 | apartment
72: 14 | april
1:18 4:17 7:2 | 49:5, 16, 18 50:7,8 |\n| 38:4 42:8,10,16 | 72:21 | 7:7 29: 14,23 | 60:10 61:4,8,11 |\n| 45:4 47:5,7,9,16 | apologies
76: 17 | 30: 11, 18 31:3, 7 | 63:1,12 64:17 |\n| 47:23 50:4 52:4 | 174:9 191: 14 | 61:18 212:10 | 67:4 68:21 69:3,5 |\n| 52: 19 54:24 55:4 | apologize
87: 13 | 213:1214:3,5 | 70:6 71:3 72:24 |\n| 61:6,9 63:17,19 | apparent
124: 13 | architecture | 80:9 81:12 88:15 |\n| 64:8 66:2,5,6,15 | 136:4 | 118: 11 | 98:8,21 102:20 |\n| 67:9,11,12,16 | apparently
168:9 | arethusa
147: 14 | 107:4,5,7 110:14 |\n| 74: 12, 13, 16, 19,22 | 173:6 | argue
136: 10, 13 | 110: 17,19 112:22 |\n| 74:25 76:23 77: 11 | appear
48:5 | arguing
66:3 | 116:9 124: 1,13,14 |\n| 77:12,19 78:6,9,9 | appearances
2: 1 | arrange
141: 17 | 127: 16 132: 10 |\n| 79:10,11,16 84:1,5 | 3:1 7:22 | 196:3 | 134:3 135:18 |\n| 84:25 88: 19,20,24 | appearing
214: 18 | arranged
114: 15 | 138: 18 143 :20 |\n| 90: 12 92: 14 94: 18 | 215:7 | 114:16,19 141:16 | 146:2 155:12 |\n| 95: 19 97: 15 99:2 | appointed
32: 14 | 159:3,7,21 | 156:3 160: 13 |\n| 116:4, 15,20,22,23 | 34:9, 12,20 38:22 | arrangement
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111:6 | 179: 13 180:3,17 |\n| 130: 11,25 132: 10 | 97:12 122:19 | arrested
48: 11 | 182:11,15,18,21 |\n| 132:14 133:8,9 | 166:3 173:4,7,16 | 84:6 | 190:21 194:6,22 |\n| 134:24 140:4 | 174: 18 180:25 | arrived
143: 11,21 | 199: 15 202:5 |\n| 154: 19 158:5 | 182:5 | 143:24 144:3 | 203:10,13 206:18 |\n| 159:20 160: 15 | appreciate
67: 14 | ascribe
86: 19 | 207:3,6 208:14 |\n| 161: 1 165:20 | 157:25 | asia
2: 11 5:9 9:20 | asks
106:15 |\n| 170: 11,22 175: 10 | appropriate
41 :25 | aside
44: 10 127:5 | aspect
165:7 |\n| 182: 1 183 :22,25 | 44:22 157:24 | 128:4,6 175:2 | asset
130:14,22 |\n| 183:25 188:6 | approval
37:5 | 193: 17 | assets
127:6,17 |\n| 193: 16 200:3,12 | 107: 19,23 | asked
21:8 22:5 | 128:6,23 129:4 |\n| 204:22 207:8 | approve
146: 12 | 48:6 53: 11 62:22 | assignment
46:9 |\n| answered
31: 11 | approved
107: 14 | 78:25 79:2,9 | 58:23 |\n| 62: 12 184:8 204:4 | 159:2,6 177:25 | 82:10,15,19 87:17 | assist
89: 16 92: 18 |\n| | 178:2 180:7 | 88:21 95:8 105:4 | 192:20 193: 19 |\n| | | | |\n\n**[assistant** - **birnbaum]**\n\n| assistant
88:25 | authorize
104: 13 | 123: 10 126:7 | begins
47:5 74: 10 |\n|-----------------------|------------------------------------------|-------------------------|-----------------------|\n| 89:10,18 92:23 | authorized
104: 16 | 149:17 170:14 | behalf
137:6 |\n| 93:2,9,14,19 95:1 | 164: 19 168: 14 | 174:6,20 186:23 | 166:14 |\n| 95:10 | 204:3,6 | 206:4,6 | beijing
86:14,16 |\n| assisted
15:25 | automobile
110:21 | background
26:7 | 86:24 |\n| 89:24 | automobiles | 47: 13 155:2 | believe
13 :22 |\n| assisting
192:4 | 111: 19 | bakersfield
213 :2 | 14:14 18:3 21:6 |\n| assume
101:12,13 | available
91:19 | balance
125:10,22 | 24: 1, 1,22 31: 12 |\n| 101: 14 109:9 | 92:2 146:5 206: 19 | 126:21 127: 19,22 | 32: 12 35: 13 42:23 |\n| 188: 18 206:5 | avenue
197:21 | 127:24 174:23 | 69:20 80: 1,25 |\n| assumed
46: 12 | 198:16,19 | bank
124:12,18,21 | 81: 16 90:7 94:20 |\n| 47: 19 49: 18 | avoid
184:22 | 124:25 125:7,8,14 | 97:4,8 99: 1,23 |\n| 169: 15 | 185:6 | 125:22 126:22 | 104: 16,20 105:9 |\n| assumes
166:9 | avoids
71:22 | 127:1,5,21128:4,6 | 113:12 114:2,20 |\n| attached
146: 14 | aware
11:2 108:12 | 128:9,10 129:17 | 117:21 128:8 |\n| attend
191:7 | 108: 14,14 156: 10 | 129:20 158:22 | 141: 14 143: 14 |\n| attention
21: 10 | 164:9 166:6 171: 1 | 174:23 | 144:25 156:8,9 |\n| 84:4 145: 19 | 177:9 178:4
f--------------------, | banking
175:6 | 157:4 163 :5 |\n| 146:23 | b | bankruptcy
1: 1 | 170:15 172:14,17 |\n| attorney
2: 12,22 | C-----b-1-: 1-6-,2-5 -4 :_9_5_: 3______, | 7: 12 3 6:4, 16 3 7: 6 | 177: 17 182:25 |\n| 3:5,11 63:25 68:9 | 5: 13 7:9 9: 19 20:5 | 48:24 94:7,20 | 185: 1 194: 14 |\n| 134: 10 138:25 | | 130:20 191:21 | 196:19 204:5,7 |\n| 139: 1 140: 13 | 20:12 26:2,11
27:5 37:6 38:6 | 192:5 | 205: 18 207:22 |\n| 145: 19 146: 18 | 44:20 65: 19 209:8 | 37:
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9: 1, 11 12:4 |\n| 170: 15, 19,24 | | based
148:5 | 51:6 60: 1, 1 62:9 |\n| 171:16 172:3 | back
19:3 23:1,2 | 161:24 165:
22 | 64:2 188:20 |\n| 192: 17 | 23:21 30:5 31:9 | basic
26:6,8 | better
30:2 76: 16 |\n| attorney's
134: 11 | 32:3,20 36: 12
37:23 44:1146:18 | 99:lO
basics | 76: 18 103: 19,20 |\n| 170:16 171:18 | 48:7,13 49:10 | basis
85:20 130:21 | beyond
27:1 |\n| attorneys
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100:2,21 |\n| 15:15 17:15,22 | | 156:23 192:25 | 101:25 196: 11 |\n| 58: 18 139:9,9 | 57:4,25 61:17
62:8,19 63:24 | 201:8 | 198:3 199: 1,6 |\n| 141: 15 145:7 | 64:2,17 66:25 | bear
193:16 | 200:6,10 201:2,10 |\n| 146:4 | 71:3 73: 10 75: 12 | 91: 1
bearing | 202:10 205:1,6 |\n| audit
102: 11 | | began
23:19 24:14 | bills
99: 16,19,21 |\n| aulet
2:5 8:7, 7 | 75:25 78: 14,21
79:3, 16 80:9, 13 | 69:1 | 100:7 101:22 |\n| authority
165: 14 | 86:4 87:10,14,21 | beginning
28: 11 | 195:10 196:11 |\n| 168:20 180:4 | 88:2 90: 1,20 91:4 | 28: 12 69:7 87:6 | 197:7 201:5 |\n| authorization | 101:15 107:16 | 117:19 179:24 | birnbaum
2:21 |\n| 165:24 | | | 8:2 |\n| | 111:16 112:16 | | |\n\n[bit - cbshealaw.com]\n\n| bit 30:25 37:8 | 2:4 8:7,10
brown | calculate
70:4 | 198:23 202:13,19 |\n|----------------------|---------------------|----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 46:25 162:14 | 18:6 | calculating 193:19 | 202:19,20,22,23 |\n| 195.4 | brownrudnick.c | calculation
70:7 | 203:3,7,7,8,23,24 |\n| hlamed
86:3 | 2:9,9 | 10:5
california | 204:3,11,11 205:2 |\n| blower
117:18 | bsilverberg 2:9 | 211:1,15 212:1,6 | 205:7,8,9 |\n| book
34:2 189:8 | budget 208:7,9 | 213:2 | cards 102:16,22 |\n| books
190:18,22 | build 118:21 | call 16:6,20 28:15 | 102:23 103:1 |\n| 207:16 | 174:19 | 43:3 95:25 102:8 | 204:18 |\n| borrowed
177:17 | building
171:5 | called 8:24 9:9,19 | care 96:1,4 98:16 |\n| 177:19
borrower | business
24:24 | 14:18 39:5 86:13 | 98:25 99:5,6 |\n| 185:23,24,25 | 48:9 74:24 79:8 | 89:17 93:19 | 100:11,16 138:5 |\n| 187:6 188:10 | 79:15 80:5,11,12 | 112:23 114:20 | 139:2 141:17 |\n| boss 30:7 78:17.22 | 80:15,18 81:20 | 209:16 | 143:5 148:4,6,11 |\n| 78:24,25 81:2,6 | 97:15 114:7,9,10 | calling 76:11 77:9 | 148:16 154:11,14 |\n| 86:16,18,20,21 | 114:11 115:15,19 | 199-15 | 159:11 160:1,5,10 |\n| hottom
47:4 | 115:20 116:4 | calls 52:2 155:18 | 160:13,18 161:2 |\n| 167:19,22 | 117:11,16,19 | 207:7 | 161:13,19,23,24 |\n| brain
63:7 | 118:1 119:9 | candidate
154:13 | 162:4,17,22 180:9 |\n| branded 174:22 | 120:18 121:18 | candidates
152:16 | 181:23,23 195:25 |\n| 114:20,24
bravo | 122:5 168:14 | 54:11
cantonese | 197:11 199:11 |\n| 115:4,11 | 175:17,19 183:17 | 177:21
cap | career 31:18 |\n| break 66:17 67:4 | 106:3,15,19
buy | capability
154:18 | 164:18 |\n| 111:24 112:3.4 | 107:9,9,15,24 | capacity 51:23 | careful
185:8 |\n| 126:17,20 167:3 | 108:5 143:7 183:1 | 52:13 54:19 58:7 | 168:14
carried |\n| 173:21 174:1 | 194:14 196:7,15 | 60:1 90:8,10,17,23 | 208:5
carry |\n| 205:23 | 196:17,17,18,19 | 91:15,21,23 92:1,4 | 109:22,25
cars |\n| bridgeport
1:3 | 197:21 198:1,15 | 92:5,16 95:5 | 110:4,6 111:17 |\n| 7:13 | 198:18 199:12,19 | 105:7 141:23 | 181:14 |\n| brief
138:19 | 200:5 202:2,11,15 | 178:21 191:24 | 1:777:13 11:8
case |\n| 142:18 | 202:17 203-24 | captioned
167:15 | 14:18,20,22 37:6 |\n| briefed 138:1,10 | 204:11 | 108:20 110:3
car | 90:15 101:10 |\n| 138:13,16,21,24 | buying 204:16 | 111:4 195:13,17 | 129:16 130:20 |\n| 161:18 | 196:13
buys | 206:9,10,11,17,18 | 142:22 206:4 |\n| briefing
149:16 | 198:11 200:6 | 206:22 | cash 127:10,12,13 |\n| 144:19,23
briefly | bylaws 163:22,25 | card 99:21 100:5 | 127:14 |\n| 182:20
bring | 164:1,5,11,15 | 101:22,25 102:14 | catch 173:18 |\n| broad
165:6 | 165:1,3,7,14,17 | 102:17,24 103:4,7 | category 123:15 |\n| 86.3
broken | C | 103:14 104:6,10 | 176:22 |\n| 84:10
brothers | c'mon
153:15 | 104:15,22,25 | cater 92:10 |\n| 86:10
brought | 214:9,12,20
ca | 105:1 195:10 | cbshealaw.com |\n| 87.3 | | 196:11 198:7,7,20 | 2:24 |\n| | | | |\n\n**[ccp** - **completion]**\n\n| ccp
214:9,12 | 155:2,2 | close
173 :25 | 99:3 150:22,25 |\n|-------------------------|------------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|\n| certain
201: 8 | checked
127:24 | closer
36:8 152:3 | 151:11,15,17 |\n| certainly
41:24 | china
18: 18,20 | clothes
95 :25 | 187: 10 |\n| 80: 17 129:3 | 24:25 25:25 30:3 | 99:20 100:18 | communicated |\n| 164:25 | 31:8,20 114:8 | 101:5,6,9 196:17 | 17:3, 11, 15 151 :2 |\n| certificate
5:5,6 | chinese
47: 11 | 196: 18, 19 198: 12 | 164:20 |\n| 166: 14 167: 16 | 49:24 54:4 84:7 | 198: 15, 18 199:3 | communicating |\n| 168:4,19 173:8 | 203:20 | clothing
99:9, 18 | 17:6 |\n| 212:7 | choice
47: 10 | 100:24 101:4,11 | communication |\n| certification
10:6 | city
31:22 71:13 | 101:13 107:22 | 154: 17 196: 1 |\n| certified
10:4,5, 11 | 71: 19,20 72: 1 | 201:7 | communications |\n| 212:5 | 184:25 | code
214:9, 12,19 | 16:8 |\n| certify
211:4 | civil
5: 14 214: 19 | 214:20 | communist
47: 11 |\n| 212:7,20 | 214:20 | coffee
82:6, 10, 12 | 84:7 |\n| cetera
68: 12 | claiborn
3 :5 8: 15 | 82: 15,20 106: 19 | companies
27:5 |\n| challenged
170:7 | 8: 15 | 107: 12 141: 18 | company
26:8 |\n| change
163:20 | claim
77:22 | cohn
2:21 8:2 | 45:9 46:7,10 |\n| 188:17,18 199:19 | claimed
78:23 | colleague
18: 1 | 47:12 79:2186:13 |\n| 199:21 216:4,7,10 | clarified
100: 17 | 19:10 47:12 71:10 | 86:1392:17 |\n| 216:13,16,19 | clarify
90:3,10 | 210:1 | 101: 16 103: 13 |\n| changes
211:7,10 | 120:4 182:2 | come
25:12,15 | 114:4,5,7,19 |\n| changing
127: 19 | 187:24 | 27:20 28:4 44: 11 | 117: 15 118: 19,24 |\n| charge
80: 12 | clarity
151:6 | 122:21 129:2 | 119:4, 12 124:9 |\n| 101:11,12 102:1,3 | 200:22 | 148:7 159:9 | 128: 14 136:5 |\n| 102:9 | cleanup
174: 13 | 161:21 162:6 | 137:7 152: 11 |\n| charter
166:7 | 205:24 | 163:11167:8 | 153 :9 155 :3,8 |\n| 167: 17 168: 15,16 | clear
53: 15,16 | 176:2,3,6,8,9 | 160: 17 163 :22 |\n| 169:3,18,24 | 62: 15 75:7 87: 15 | 195:14,16 | 164:2,17 165:1,2 |\n| 171:14 172:22 | 95: 11, 11 121:22 | comes
27:3 180: 10 | 169:16,18 181:19 |\n| 173:1,13 | 151:5 161:1 | comfortable
11 :4 | 195:20 |\n| charters
170:20 | 183:25 | 153:2 | company's
166:6 |\n| chat
141:8,8, 10 | clearly
11:134:2 | coming
87:21 | competency
26:10 |\n| 142:19 161:18 | 85:25 97:5 101:16 | 152:19 153:10 | 44:24 |\n| chauffeur
34:24 | 186:25 187: 1 | 159:16 160:2,6,14 | compiling
193: 19 |\n| 35:10,19 36:1,23 | client
120:2,8,9,11 | 162: 11 | complete
168: 18 |\n| 37:21206:14,19 | 120: 15,20 121:3, 7 | comley
3:10 8:5 | 172:24 174:24 |\n| 206:23 | 121:8,15 122:22 | comma
88:24 | 175:8 |\n| check
3: 18 9:6, 14 | 122:23 126: 1 | committee
3: 10 | completed
214:7 |\n| 10:7,9,9 34: 1 | clients
119:5,9,18 | 8:5 | 214:17 215:6 |\n| 52:21,21 53:1,6,17 | 120:18 121:19 | communicate
17:1 | completion
215: 10 |\n| 127:21 131: 13,13 | | 69:17 70:15,19,21 | |\n| | | | |\n\n95\n\n| complicated
17:24 | console
129: 18 | 31:21,22 33:17,23 | 16: 14 19:21 20:3 |\n|-----------------------|------------------------|------------------------|-------------------------|\n| complies
21: 1, 12 | constraints
164: 10 | 36:17 39:14 43:1 | 26:141:2153:7,9 |\n| 23:4 28:25 29:4 | consult
18:5 | 43:2 48:8,12 | 125:25 140:8 |\n| 32:22 33:2,9 35:3 | 106: 16,20,22 | 51: 13, 15, 16, 19,20 | 150:5,9,20 151 :6 |\n| 35:5 43:15 46:19 | consulted
134:25 | 52:24 54: 1 60:21 | 151:12,24 152:18 |\n| 46:22,24 55: 12,23 | 135:4,5,7 | 62:2 69: 16 77:2,3 | 152:23 153 :9 |\n| 56:23 57:5, 17 | contact
79:25 | 77:5,6 79: 16,22 | 156:2,19,19 |\n| 58:1 73:12 74:4 | 149:20 154:24 | 84:16 85:1,13,14 | 157: 11,14 208:24 |\n| 83:14,20 87:25 | 214:9 | 90:18,20,24 91:13 | 209:21 212:20 |\n| 88:4,9 167: 13 | contained
15 :7 | 91: 16 97: 15 | 214: 18,21 215:7 |\n| composed
121: 13 | contains
189: 16 | 104: 19,23 105:21 | counsel's
150: 10 |\n| computer
19:25 | contested
37:4 | 106:17 108:21 | 153:17,18 154:3 |\n| 212: 14 | 130: 19 | 111:2,4,5,7 117:2 | 154:24 |\n| con
26:11 | context
26: 12 | 121:16,18 129:23 | counsels
16:5 |\n| concerned
21:4 | continue
193:1 | 135:25 136:21 | 144:25 |\n| 76:6 158: 17 | continued
3:1 5:1 | 137:5,11,12,25 | count
80:3 |\n| concerns
71 :22 | contributed
122: 1 | 139: 12 142:8,10 | countless
159: 14 |\n| 126:25 128:22 | 122:7 | 142:11,12 145:12 | countries
175 :23 |\n| 185:9 | controls
122:6 | 149: 1 155:6,24 | country
27: 14 |\n| concludes
209:7 | conversation | 157: 13 161: 15 | 115:23 116:8 |\n| conclusion
52:3 | 139: 10 162:7,19 | 166: 15 175: 11 | county
211:2 |\n| conditions
146: 14 | 178: 14 191:7 | 185:13 187:17,19 | 212:2 |\n| conduct
155: 17 | conversations | 189: 1,2,5,6, 10, 12 | couple
10:2119:3 |\n| conducted
14: 10 | 16:13 77:22 | 189: 18 190:4,5,20 | 73:8 97: 13 109:22 |\n| 80:25 128:24 | 149:19 171:22 | 190:25 192:21 | 110:1135:15 |\n| 155:2 | 178:7 | 198:7 202:21 | 138:20 149:7 |\n| confess
67:7 | convince
181:7,7 | 205:7,13 211:9,13 | 208:4 |\n| confirm
92:7 | convinced
180: 1 | 212: 16 | course
14:21 47:7 |\n| 198:9 203:18 | cooperate
78 :20 | corrected
75:22 | 48:18,20,23 61:18 |\n| 206:23 | coordinate
118: 12 | 75:23,24 76:4 | 81:24 85:2 121:20 |\n| confusing
22:25 | copy
210:3,7 | correction
29: 18 | 126:2 130:5 131:7 |\n| 121: 10 | corner
57: 1 | 46:20 76:6 91:5 | 135:6 137: 15 |\n| confusion
22: 19 | corporate
1: 16 | 169:17 | 142: 18 147:3,3 |\n| 23:8 | 9: 19 15:3 44:21 | corrections
214: 14 | 154: 18 170:23 |\n| connecticut
1 :2 | corporation
4:21 | 214: 15 215:3,4 | 174:19 181:13 |\n| 2:23 3:12 7:13 | 23:24 34:1168:13 | correctly
75: 1 | court
1: 1 7: 12, 19 |\n| connolly
170: 16 | 168:21 170: 15 | 107:21 172:5,16 | 8:18 10:4,11,11 |\n| 170:19 172:2,3,7,9 | corporation's | 192:19 | 11:22 14:23 48:2 |\n| 172: 19 | 168:3 | costs
177:8, 16 | 50: 11 57:8 85:3 |\n| consecutive
24:6 | correct
16: 1 18:4 | counsel
7:21 9:20 | 146: 11 194:9 |\n| 25:2 | 24: 19,21 30: 11,12 | 10:15 12:20 16:13 | |\n| | | | |\n\n[courts - described]\n\n| 37:14 38:8
courts | d | debtor 1:9 2:4 8:8 | department 3:4 |\n|-----------------------|-----------------------------|---------------------------------------|---------------------|\n| 15:773:15
cover | d
2:21 4:1 148:25 | 8:10 40:6 41:24 | 87:9,12 128:1 |\n| 177:15 | dad
199:13 | 53:11,23 85:12 | 155:1,9,16,23 |\n| covered 37:9 | daily
128:16 | 131:4,10,25 132:7 | 99:4
depo |\n| covid
16:5 | 142:17,19 149:24 | 132:15,19 134:21 | deponent's 209:21 |\n| 193:11,14
craig | | 135:3,10 137:4 | deposed 13:22 |\n| create
43:19 44:2 | 151:2 179:6,8 | 156:19 186:14 | 14:1,5,12 36:8,16 |\n| created 43:20 | 208:5,8
148:24
daniel | debtor's 53:24 | 90:7 92:20 94:6 |\n| 114:13.24 115:8 | date 23:17 29:13 | 131:17,17,18 | 1:14
deposition |\n| 115:15,16 116:6.8 | | debtors
146:16 | 5:11 7:9,15 11:7 |\n| 117:6 123:9 | 30:24 31:7 33:17 | 106:22
decide | 11:21 13:25 14:4 |\n| credentials 9:25 | 36:8 73:17 104:5 | 107:11 | 14:10 15:8,12,20 |\n| 10:8 | 168:3,9 214:16 | decided
183 - 1 | 16:10,24 17:2,12 |\n| credit
99:21 | 215:5 216:24 | 183:6
decides | 17:16,20 18:7.19 |\n| 101:21,25 102:14 | dated 4:16,24 5:7 | decision
134:20 | 19:7 20:1,8 21:7 |\n| 102:16,17,22,23 | 5:15 73:16 213:1 | 135:1,8,12,14,17 | 28:17 29:17 37:4 |\n| 102:25 129:4 | dates
14:2,2 21:5 | 135:19,21,24 | 37:18 38:6 43:5 |\n| 195:10 196:11 | daughter 84:9 | 136:3 137:3,5,6,14 | 47:24 48:2,25 |\n| 198:6,20 202:20 | david 2:11 7:24 | 137:17,18,25 | 55:10 65:19 73:17 |\n| 203:7,23 204:11 | 10:20 65:12 116:2 | 142:19 143:8 | 76:20 80:25 95:8 |\n| creditor 2:11,21 | 153:15 156:9 | 152:8,10 153:19 | 95:15 96:17 109:5 |\n| 7:11 9:20 128:24 | 157:22 187:23 | 154:3,22 164:19 | 116:12 125:18 |\n| creditors 3:10 8:6 | 209:12 | | 130:15,18 133:17 |\n| 194:25 | day 49:3,6,7 50:15 | 165:10 179:5,8,20
180:20 181:11,20 | 133:21 134:5 |\n| 127:2
credits | 69:22 109:2 | 181:21 183:12 | 145:13 156:21 |\n| 75:7 | 127:19,20 139:25 | 184:2 201:1 | 162:13 163:1 |\n| crystal
1:25 213:4 | 140:1 145:21 | 142:14
decisions | |\n| csr | 163:7,10 168:15 | 142:17 164:2 | 166:23 209:15,17 |\n| culture 49:23,24 | 173:15 194:22,22 | | 209:20 211:6,8,11 |\n| 49:24 | 195:15,15 196:5,5 | 178:25 | 212:9,10,12 |\n| current 45:1 | 208:15,15 211:14 | 211:12
declare | 214:19,22,24 |\n| 125:10 129:3 | 213:1 | 146:20,25
default | 215:8,10 |\n| 148:17 150:5,19 | de
2:13 3:7 | 147.8 | depositions
11:2 |\n| 151:24 153:3 | deal 195:21 | defendant
28:9 | 14:24 |\n| currently 124:14 | 206:11 | definitely
59:22 | describe 85:15 |\n| 150:2 152:18 | debate 125:19 | delaware 4:21 5:4 | 92:23 174:15 |\n| 156:4,7 157:2,4 | debit
102:24 103:4 | 167:16 168:4,22 | 175:16 179:3 |\n| 190:3 | 103:7,13 104:6,10 | 171:9 | described 68:22 |\n| 104:2
cute | 104:15,22,24 | delay 19:12 44:6 | 69:670:17 91:22 |\n| | 105:1 198:7,23 | delivered 210:7 | 117:12 120:14 |\n| | 202:12,19 203:7 | 58:4
dep | 124:22 186:11 |\n| | 203:24 204:11 | | |\n\n### [description - employee]\n\n| description
4:11 | direct 21:10 84:4 | discuss
126:1 | driver
35:10 |\n|---------------------|----------------------|----------------------|------------------------------------------|\n| 5:2 | 91:4 158:5 | 140:21 141:2 | drop
19:10 |\n| 187:5
designed | directed 27:7 | discussion
174:21 | 16:5
due |\n| designer
118:11 | 192:15,20 | displaying
132:4 | dug
169:8 |\n| 36:15
details | direction 82:2 | disregard 125:2 | duly 9:1,11,21 |\n| 64:23 105:12 | 117:17 190:24 | district 1:2 7:12 | 168:13,20 212:9 |\n| 113:15 147:2 | directly 99:22 | 198.8
dive | duties 26:18,23 |\n| 153:3 181:16 | 100:8,9 101:1 | diversified 45:15 | 44:17 45:7 46:4 |\n| determined | 103.24 110.10 | 114:11 | 69:6 77:23 169:15 |\n| 214:18,22 215:7 | 159:4,8,22 177:18 | division
1:3 7:13 | duty 27:2 149:9 |\n| develop 115:18 | director 4:19 28:9 | document 20:5,7 | dwell
196:23 |\n| 117:15 174:21 | 32:14 38:18,19,22 | 21:24 28:14 43:16 | dwelling 72:9,10 |\n| device | 42:23,25 43:24 | 43:18,22 44:2 | e |\n| 2:14
dharbach | 45:25 46:13 47:20 | 56:18 61:13 62:24 | |\n| dictionary
60:9 | 49:5 56:9 97:20 | 63:9 167:1.4 | 4:1,9 38:14,23
e
39:9 147:15 |\n| difference
101:8 | 98:3 110:19 123:7 | 169:8,12,14 170:2 | 148:25 212:18 |\n| 176:17 | 134:19 142:6 | 171:8 172:21 | |\n| different | 175:13 181:19 | documentation | 214:9,12 215:1 |\n| 120:14 127:15 | directors 34:16 | 170:21 | 216:3,3,3
earlier 47:1 53:11 |\n| 136:18,20 166:2 | 37:10 148:18 | documented | 77:22 87:14 99:9 |\n| 175:23 | 168:20 | 187:21,25 188:1,8 | 118:5 158:22 |\n| difficult 195:2 | disagree
129:8 | 189:4,12 190:17 | |\n| dip 37:5,11 42:3 | 156:22 158:7 | documents 15:16 | 176:15 182:9
188:4 193:15 |\n| 42:13 66:12 94:21 | 183:5,9 184:4 | 15:18 166:16 | |\n| 125:15 130:20 | 193:1 | 169:11 170:7 | 195:9 207:12
208:16 |\n| 131:22,23 132:1,4 | disagreed 137:13 | 184:15 185:12,14 | |\n| 132:9,11,23 134:7 | 179.15 180.19 | 186:11 190:3,7 | 39:16
ease |\n| 134:8,21 135:2,9 | 183:1,11 | 207:13 | 7:3 184:20
east |\n| 136:18,23 137:4 | disagreement | doing 11:21 45:10 | 190:3 |\n| 137:18 138:3,19 | 179:19 181:22 | 45:11 80:22 93:5 | 14:19.19
eastern
efficient 87:15 |\n| 139:2,5,14 140:12 | 182:3 | 115:21 117:17 | |\n| 140:21 142:21,23 | disagreements | 128:1 141:6 | eight 83:19,22
84.2 |\n| 144:5,11,18 145:9 | 179:23 181:3 | 160:19 | |\n| 145:17,21 146:8 | disappeared 48:11 | dollars 179:1,9,12 | eighteenth 72:20
either
16:13 38:7 |\n| 146:21,25 147:2,8 | disclose 124:24,24 | 179:20,21 180:21 | |\n| 147:19 158:18 | 150:10 | 183:13 184:3 | 48:10 59:22 63:19
168:20
elected |\n| 159:2,6,14,16 | disclosing
16:12 | drafted 58:18 | |\n| 160:25 162:11,13 | 42:11 | 63:25 68:8 | employed
36:1 |\n| 162:23 163:11,15 | disclosure
130:15 | 171:5
drill | employee 35:14,20 |\n| 176:17 177:3 | 130:23 | 194:8
drive | 78:15,16,18 79:4 |\n| 180:7 | | | 81:9,15 84:13 |\n| | | | 85:19,23,24 86:4,6 |\n\n## [employee - family]\n\n| 123:7 151:12,17 | estate 47:15 51:9 | 44:10 46:18,21 | extend 37:13 38:8 |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|---------------------|\n| 153:3 154:13 | 51:17 114:10 | 47:6 55:9,10,19 | extended 176:10 |\n| 155:7 156:10 | 115:20 117:22,24 | 56:2,4,9,13 57:1 | 185-8
extra |\n| employees 34:21 | 117:25 118:9,11 | 62:5,16,23 64:9 | 2:12
eye |\n| 37:10 48:10 78:15 | 181:4 182:6 | 67:5,19,21 73:11 | f |\n| 151:13 156:6,12 | 183:15,19 184:5 | 83:13,15 87:16,23 | f
116:22 147:15 |\n| 157:1,2 158:3 | 68:12
et | 87:24 88:1,2 91:4 | facilitate 118:12 |\n| 192:20 206:15 | 146:19,24
events | 91:5,6 166:20,23 | fact 50:22 80:16 |\n| 208:12 | 147:7 | 167:9,12 171:17 | 80:20 89:4 123:2 |\n| employer 153:5,17 | everybody 19:11 | 172:8 209:15,16 | 169:17,22 |\n| 153:19 154:3,7,20 | 163:19 173:24 | 209:17,22 | factor 153:19 |\n| 154:25 155:6 | evidencing 207:17 | exhibits 5:1 19:15 | 154.3 |\n| empowered | 71:14 184:23
exact | 20:16 209:15 | 32:8 166:9
facts |\n| 142:14 | exactly 98:17 | existed
145:18 | failure 168:18 |\n| endured
208:24 | 180:15 | 115:18
expand | 172:24 |\n| 129:7
engage | examination 4:3 | 122:15
expect | 60:18 72:23
fair |\n| 8:25,25
english | 10:17 | 124:10 158:18,21 | 74:1 90:6 94:14 |\n| 9:10,10 10:10 | examined
14 - 5 | expectation 50:12 | 162:20 170:5 |\n| 11:3,5,6,7,11,25 | 94:6
example | expected
184:10 | 173:17 |\n| 29:25 38:23 39:22 | 95:23 99:3 102:2 | 169:6
expecting | familiar 144:5,11 |\n| 40:16 50:2 55:16 | 102:5,6 105:10 | expedition 37:13 | 146:19 186:20 |\n| 62:25 63:25 79:19 | 106:19 108:11 | expenses
100:11 | families
86:25 |\n| 86:4 98:10 144:4 | 143:6 179:5 | 192:15 193:20,23 | family 24:24 29:11 |\n| 144:19 201 :20 | 183:10,23 184:2,2 | 194:3 | 29:23 30:6,9,10,13 |\n| 203:4,7,14,15 | 184:7 198:14,16 | expensive
108:6,9 | 30:17,19 31:2,15 |\n| 205:14,17 | 200:7 201:18 | 194:14 | 31:18,20 48:9 |\n| ensure
98:24 | 203:22 | 45:1
experience | 52:1,17,23 54:22 |\n| 98:6
ensured | examples
182:3,5 | 161:24 | 58:12,17 68:2,7 |\n| 98:4
ensuring | 182:10,16 205:4 | explain 20:4 41:21 | 81:11 84:8 85:6,6 |\n| enterprise
118:15 | exceeds
20:11 | 64:5 75:3 151:8 | 85:7,11,25 86:5,6 |\n| 175:17 | 15:11 56:5
excuse | 177:13 200:14 | 86:12,17 87:7 |\n| entire 48:8 84:17 | 58:5 128:3 163:18 | explained 93:7 | 91:15,20 95:7 |\n| 85:7 129:15 155:7 | 194:4 | 175:6 176:16 | 113:6,7 115:16 |\n| 164:18 170:14 | executed
65:10 | 180:25 182:4 | 118:3,4,7,22 119:6 |\n| 174:19 | 211:14 | 183:17 | 119:7,8,9,19,22 |\n| errata 214:14,16 | executing 166:13 | explanation 26:3 | 120:12,15,17,23 |\n| 215:3.5 | exhibit 4:11,12,16 | explore 42:193:5 | 121:3,8,13,15,17 |\n| 107:18
escalate | 4:19,23 5:2,3,3,9 | 116:3 | 121:17,23,24 |\n| 143:8 | 19:6,7 20:15 | exploring
44:23 | 122:22 123:21 |\n| established 66:11 | 28:17,20 32:20,21 | 65:24 | 124:5 157:17 |\n| | 33:8 35:2 43:5 | | 164:16,17,23 |\n\n## [family - fourteen]\n\n| 176:10,10 181:16 | figure 26:9 111:10 | finishing 173:25 | follow 32:4 102:15 |\n|----------------------|----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|\n| 182:17 183:20 | 128:11 135:14 | fire
171:4 | 168:23 197:12,18 |\n| 184:24 205:8,9,12 | 143:3,11,21 144:3 | firm 7:17,19 15:14 | followed
164:15 |\n| famous 208:1 | 187:16 | 15:25 17:21,22 | following
109:2 |\n| far
37:6,10 95:14 | figuring
102:13 | 18:6 60:25 124:8 | follows 9:2,12,22 |\n| 98:19 124:3 | 195:2 | 193:5 | 58:11 214:8 |\n| 158:16 160:4 | file 20:19 168:18 | firm's 17:23,25 | food 95:25 99:9,20 |\n| 164:9 165:3 180:6 | 172:24 | firms
17:21 114:3 | 99:20 107:12,22 |\n| 187:15 198:21 | filed 7:11 57:7 | first 9:21 23:17 | 141:18 |\n| father 53:20 68:25 | 65:25 167:23 | 25:13 30:4 50:5 | foods 204:17 |\n| 69:12 91:20 92:18 | 168:19 171:8 | 52:10 55:1,21 | 205:5 |\n| 92:19 96:1,4 | 173:8 | 56:16 58:4 62:23 | foregoing 211:5 |\n| 98:16 99:6 108:24 | filing 168:3 | 62:25 69:7 75:3,7 | 211:13 212:8,15 |\n| 109:2 113:13 | 191:21
fill | 86:10 87:6 139:4 | forgeries 170:8 |\n| 117:18 119:15 | filling 192:4 | 139:7 143:15 | forget 29:14 30:24 |\n| 122:24 134:9 | finance
128:1 | 144:14 145:16,21 | 75:23 |\n| 136:2 143:7 | 160:24 162:10 | 153:8,13 162:9,23 | forgive
185:8 |\n| 175:25 176:6 | 190:23 196:12,12 | 163:3,7,10 168:15 | 31:8
forgot |\n| 177:22 180:11,12 | 197:8 198:8 199:7 | 174:19 201:5 | form 13:1 121:5 |\n| 182:19,20,22 | 199:13 | 212:11 | 211:7 |\n| 191:8 196:11 199:9 | financial 46:14,16 | fishing 37:13 | formal
189:17 |\n| 199:11,23 201:9 | 47:13,22 49:8,9,13 | five 4:18 5:7 29:7 | formed
18:10,11 |\n| 206:22 | 49:20 50:3,19,22 | 33:1.7 41:13 59:3 | 147:14,21
forsyth |\n| father's
95:24 | 127:25 189:8,11 | 59:5 79:24 80:7 | forth 141:24,25 |\n| 100:18 134:9 | 189:22 191:22 | 85:21 168:11 | 142:3 195:10 |\n| 182:18 201:11 | 192:5 | fix 170:25 173:15 | 212:11 |\n| february 33:11,17 | 101:16
financials | 173:19 | forty 4:14 20:20 |\n| 33:23 35:14,17 | 37:5
financing | 167:8
fixing | 29:3,5 35:4 46:23 |\n| federal 5:13 | 131:4,11 132:19 | 72:20
floor | 47:1,3,4,8 83:19 |\n| 212:18 215:1,8,9 | 132:24 134:21 | flow 127:10,12,13 | 83:22 84:2 88:8 |\n| 107:2
fee | 135:3,10 136:23 | 127:14 | 88:14 |\n| 98:13 153:2
feel | find 23:1 110:3,23 | focus 23:17 33:16 | forward 53:20 |\n| 200:16 | 151:4 204:18 | 136:22 163:9 | 88:7 |\n| feeling 154:15 | fine 11:11 54:14 | focused
165:10 | four 21:25 22:13 |\n| 107-5
fees | 61:10 158:13 | focusing
166:6 | 22:13 30:2 36:6 |\n| fifteen 17:8,9,9 | 160:20 | 193:22 | 36:10,14 56:14 |\n| 138:20 | finish 12:3 63:5 | folder 19:16 20:16 | 61:1964-2265-8 |\n| fifth 197:21 | 78:5,7 | 28:20 | 91:7,9 116:22 |\n| 198:16,19 | finished 84:20,22 | folders
19:18 | 142:7 |\n| fifty 59:7 | 116:20 205:24 | folks
112:9 163:17 | fourteen
157:4 |\n| | | | |\n\n### [frame - golden]\n\n| 140:9
frame | 107:7 150:5,9,10 | going
7:6 13:3 | 51:24 52:14 54:20 |\n|-------------------------|----------------------|--------------------|-------------------|\n| 147:15
frank | 150:19 151:6,12 | 18:20 19:6 26:4 | 58:6,21,22,23 |\n| frep 215:1 | 151:24 152:18,23 | 26:15,21,25 28:13 | 59:21 65:21 67:25 |\n| 109:1
frequency | 153:9,17,18 154:2 | 29:2 37:1,12 42:9 | 68:10,11,16,23 |\n| 69:17
frequently | 154:24 156:1 | 43:3 44:10 53:20 | 69:2,8,9,14 71:4 |\n| 70:25 80:1 83:1 | 157:11,14 179:12 | 62:13 66:3,7,12,14 | 71:12 72:1,8 |\n| 108:13,23 140:13 | 183:4 201 :25 | 66:21 75:17 84:3 | 73:22 74:21,24 |\n| friend
80:6 | generally
15:12 | 87:13 90:10 91:4 | 77:18,21,25 78:12 |\n| 67:20
front | gentleman 35:11 | 96:6 97:9 99:7,7 | 78:19 79:7,15,18 |\n| fulfill
70:16 | getting 107:25 | 112:12 125:2,4,18 | 80:5,11,12,13,18 |\n| full 23:24 174:24 | 128:10 204:24 | 125:24 126:3,23 | 80:22 81:3,6 |\n| 175:8 | give 26:3 44:5 | 129:2 132:17 | 86:22 90:4,9,18 |\n| fully
129:7 130:21 | 71:17 82:1 96:2 | 135:13 136:6 | 91:16.17.18.24 |\n| fund
2:12 5:10 | 96:24 104:4 | 146:17 150:7,13 | 92:9,16 93:6 95:4 |\n| 9:21 99:4,8 | 105:10 153:3,8,8,8 | 158:5,20,24 | 95:24 97:2,20 |\n| 114:15,15 115:7 | 163:17 166:18 | 161:13 163:11,15 | 98:3,23 99:11 |\n| 143:6 159:2,6,16 | 182:21 183:25 | 166:19 174:2 | 100:16 102:7,22 |\n| 163:11 176:19 | 186:6 198:14,22 | 183:5,22 206:1 | 102:23,25 103:4,7 |\n| funded 114:12,23 | 198:24 205:19 | 207:11,14 208:10 | 103:9 104:6,10,13 |\n| 115:12 | 11:22 29:19
given | golden 2:21 4:20 | 104:14,17,22,24 |\n| funding 42:13 | 75:12 96:16,19 | 5:3,11 7:10 8:3 | 105:8 107:15,18 |\n| 136:2,16 180:10 | 108:2 136:4 200:7 | 15:3,20 16:9,22 | 108:3 109:4,11,13 |\n| funds
99:6 101:15 | 209:7212:16 | 17:2,4,10 18:9,11 | 109:18,21,22,25 |\n| 127:8 160:24 | 26:11,11
gives | 18:15,16,17,18,20 | 110:7,14,17,20,25 |\n| 162:10,24 | giving 204:22 | 18:21,24 21:5 | 111:11,17 113:21 |\n| furniture 194:14 | 11:7 20:13,16
ഉഗ | 22:8 23:11,20,24 | 114:12,15,23 |\n| 208.12 | 23:1,2 31:9 32:20 | 23:25 24:2,3,12,13 | 115:8,12,14,16 |\n| further 37:2 | 32:25 35:4 46:18 | 24:14,18,21,23 | 116:5,8 117:6,10 |\n| 212:20 | 52:8 54:2 55:21 | 25:6,16,18 27:6,10 | 118:7,14 119:4,13 |\n| g | 56:8,21 57:4,14,25 | 27:15 28:9 30:8 | 119:13,18,23 |\n| 17:5,5 30:8,9 | 66:18 74:3 75:6,6 | 32:10,13,15 33:12 | 120:12,20,23,24 |\n| g
38:22,23,24 39:9,9 | 75:13,24 82:5,20 | 33:18 34:1,3,7,9 | 121:1,4,15,19 |\n| 39:12,12 86:14 | 83:9,13,18 88:1 | 34:13,16,22,25 | 122:1,7,13,20,21 |\n| 112:24 | 100:4 106:3 | 35:14,20 36:2,24 | 123:8,13 124:11 |\n| gasoline
11:8 | 107:15 108:5 | 37:21 38:1,18 | 124:21 125:7.14 |\n| gasolines 109:14 | 129:3 144:23 | 40:9,18,22 41:4,17 | 125:22 126:21,25 |\n| 109:14 | 153:25 167:9,11 | 42:2,5,21 43:25 | 127:7,8,9,17 |\n| gather 171:12 | 183:9 196:20 | 44:15,17,21,25 | 128:12,19,20,23 |\n| 188:7 | 197:2,6 202:9,12 | 45:7,17,21,25 46:6 | 129:14,17 130:11 |\n| general 27:4 46:7 | goes 47:7,16 84:2 | 46:13 47:10,21 | 130:15 131:3,9 |\n| 46:8 71:20 107:4 | 197:14 201:8 | 49:5,19 50:24 | 132:18,21,22,23 |\n\n## [golden - harbach]\n\n| 133:7,16 134:19 | 130:21
granted | 138:21 139:11 | happened 32:8 |\n|--------------------|-------------------|-----------------------|--------------------|\n| 135:2,9 136:1,17 | groceries 201:19 | 143:1,4 144:2 | 47-24 85:18 |\n| 137:7,10 140:25 | 201:20 202:5,11 | 147:18 148:3,5,10 | 105:13,17 106:25 |\n| 141:24 148:6,12 | 203:24 204:12,16 | 148:19 157:8 | 122:15 136:14 |\n| 148:15,18 150:2,6 | grocery 99:20 | 159:3,7,10,22 | 138:1,19,19 |\n| 150:20 151:11,25 | 100:21 201:21,24 | 161:2 163:12 | 170:13,23 173:3 |\n| 152:19,24 153:1 | 202:9,10,12 | 164:18 165:21 | 173:15,19 182:23 |\n| 153:10 156:1,6,18 | 203:22 205:3 | 172:7,12 175:12 | 183:8 199:9 |\n| 157:3,22 158:16 | grounds 120:1 | 175:17 177:18 | happens 85:16 |\n| 158:17,20 159:13 | guess 97:12 | 178:2,6,15,20 | 195:2 196:2.9 |\n| 160:21,24 163:21 | 165:11 | 179:16 180:7,20 | 197:22 198:2 |\n| 164:10,14 165:16 | guo
17:424:24 | 182:19 183:1,5 | 199:2 |\n| 165:22 166:4,14 | 29:10,23 30:6,8,9 | 187:5 189:20 | 12:12
happy |\n| 168:9 169:3, 15,25 | 30:10,13,17,19 | 191:3,8 194:16,16 | 38:8
harass |\n| 170:14,20 171:14 | 31:2,15,17,19,25 | 199:4,8,11,12,15 | harassed 125:14 |\n| 172:10 173:1,4 | 32:5 34:14 38:21 | 199:17,22 200:8 | harassment 42:14 |\n| 174:16 175:3,13 | 39:8,9,12,21 40:3 | 201:7 206:11,21 | 124:22 |\n| 176:23 177:7,14 | 40:8,17,24 41:6 | guo's 53:20 68:10 | harbach 2:11 4:5 |\n| 177:18 178:1,3 | 45:9 46:2 48:9 | 76:9 89:14 94:9 | 7:23,24 10:18,20 |\n| 180:5 184:10 | 53:2,5,12 55:3 | 106:2 113:12 | 12:23 13:2,5,10,11 |\n| 185:3 186:9,14 | 68:24 69:10,18 | 136:2 137:4 | 16:17 19:9,20,22 |\n| 187:4 188:25 | 70:10 75:22 76:12 | 142:15 170:18 | 19:24 20:6,14,17 |\n| 190:14,18,23 | 76:25 77:9,13,17 | 178:23 201:12 | 26:5,21 27:8 |\n| 191:10 192:3,11 | 77:22 78:12 79:14 | h | 28:15,19 29:17,21 |\n| 192:15 193:18 | 79:17 80:17,21 | 4:9 39:13,14
h | 37:16 38:10 40:15 |\n| 194:2,7,8 195:4,7 | 81:4,7,10,13,19 | 147:15,16 148:25 | 41:1,23 42:7,15,18 |\n| 195:15,22 198:22 | 85:6,7,24 86:5,6 | 171:25 216:3 | 42:19 43:7,9 44:6 |\n| 198:24 199:14 | 86:12,17,21,24 | habit 64:24 | 44:9,23 45:5 52:7 |\n| 201:10,23 202:7 | 87:7 90:19 92:3 | half
36:10,14 84:5 | 52:12,20,24 53:3,8 |\n| 202:10 206:8,13 | 95:23 96:9 97:14 | hand 8:20 9:5,15 | 53:15,18 54:7,9,14 |\n| 206:22 207:14 | 98:15 99:4 100:15 | 57:1 167:22 | 54:17 55:4,7,8,13 |\n| 208:5,8 209:9 | 104:17 106:10,21 | 149:23
handed | 59:15 60:3 65:2,4 |\n| goldenspringny | 107:14,16,19,24 | handled
134:23 | 65:14,20 66:16 |\n| 214:2 | 109:23 110:10 | 214:8 | 67:3,7,17,18 71:8 |\n| good 7:5,23 8:1 | 113:7,10,23 | handling
78:19 | 71:9,21,24 73:4,6 |\n| 10:3,19 11:19 | 114:14 115:2,17 | handouts
118:10 | 76:17,19 83:10,12 |\n| 49:14 53:22 55:18 | 115:17,22 116:6 | hang 70:13 151:22 | 87:2,4 90:6,14 |\n| 56:20 88:11 | 116:18 117:7,7,13 | happen 127:20 | 93:1 94:22 95:21 |\n| 112:20 141:6 | 120:15 134:6,22 | 197:20 198:4,5,10 | 104:1,3 111:15,21 |\n| 197:25 | 134:25 135:1,8,18 | 198:17,17 | 111:23 112:1,6,11 |\n| | 136:3 137:13 | | 112:19 116:3,16 |\n| | | | |\n\n[harbach - hr]\n\n95\n\n| 120:5,6 121:9,11 | 7:15
held | 1:8 2:5 7:11 8:8
ho | 204:21 205:11 |\n|--------------------|---------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|\n| 122:12 123:1,6 | 11:15 31:12
help | 39:18 40:6 41:16 | 206:1,14 214:4 |\n| 125:1,6 126:2,10 | 36:20 37:18 40:15 | 41:24 42:1 45:18 | 216:1 |\n| 126:15 127:4 | 51:6 52:5 73:15 | 45:22 52:1,16,22 | hold
119:24 142:7 |\n| 128:7,13 129:6,12 | 81:24,24 82:3 | 53:5,7,9,13,21 | holding 212:6 |\n| 130:1,24 131:2,8 | 89:13,15,20 90:19 | 54:22 58:9,16 | 70:14
holdup |\n| 131:19 133:12,14 | 106:2 131:5.14 | 66:7 68:2,6,11,20 | holley 3:5 8:15 |\n| 140:10.11 143:16 | 146:5 147:1 | 70:16 72:3,9,17 | holley.l.claiborn |\n| 143:19 144:1,8,17 | 153:22 166:20 | 77:1.4 81:4.9.15 | 3:8 |\n| 145:25 146:3 | 169:11,12 188:12 | 81:16,21 82:1,10 | home 72:16 73:2 |\n| 147:4,6,11 148:9 | 192:15 195:3,8 | 82:19,23 83:7 | 204:15 |\n| 150:11,17 153:13 | 200:20 | 84:15 85:1,13,19 | honest 50:8,12,17 |\n| 153:16,25 154:1 | helped 43:18 | 85:23 86:8 87:19 | 61:22 132:10 |\n| 154:23 156:15,24 | 120:25 | 88:18 89:5,13 | honestly 26:13 |\n| 157:25 158:14.15 | helpful 37:24 | 90:16 91:2,14 | 191-15 |\n| 159:24 161:6,10 | 38:24 92:24 94:1 | 92:10 93:14 94:16 | hong 18:16,18,20 |\n| 165:9,13 166:1,12 | 90:23
helpfully | 95:7 97:22 98:4 | 18:21,25 21:5 |\n| 166:21,25 167:5 | helping 191:20 | 98:24 99:13 100:8 | 22:6,8 23:11,12,20 |\n| 170:4 171:2 | 192:12 | 100:12.24 101:4 | 23:22 24:3,7,8,12 |\n| 173:22 174:9,12 | 36:22
helps | 101:12 102:17 | 24:13,21,23 25:1,3 |\n| 186:8,18,19 188:2 | hereof 212:11 | 103:13 104:5,9,14 | 25:3,3,6,7,16,19 |\n| 188:15,16 190:6 | hesitant
125:13 | 104:21 105:5,15 | 27:10,15,1630:5 |\n| 190:10 192:1,2,22 | hesitate
150:12 | 105:24 106:6.15 | 31:23 32:1,3,4 |\n| 193:4 196:22 | 173:24 | 106:23,24 107:8 | 44:15,18 45:7,17 |\n| 197:1 200:22 | 107:8 194:7
hey | 108:22 110:25 | 45:22 |\n| 201:16 204:5,8 | 195:17 | 111:13 115:3,6 | hope 55:14 146:1 |\n| 205:19:21 207:1,5 | hi
141:12 | 118:6119:10,20 | hopefully 44:7 |\n| 207:11,21,24 | high
154:9 | 119:22 121:3,23 | 107:6205:22 |\n| 208:3,23 209:2,12 | 152:8,14
hire | 121:25 122:6,21 | 165:19
hopelessly |\n| 209:12,19,25 | 153:19 154:4,6,9 | 136:18 139:13,18 | 118:25
hopes |\n| hard 200:2,3 | hired 86:8,11,17 | 140:14,21 149:21 | hoping 195:3,7 |\n| hartford 2:23 3:12 | 87:8,12 91:17 | 151:7,14 172:19 | hotel 27:12 102:2 |\n| head 66:9 176:14 | 151:25 169:2,23 | 176:23 177:6,16 | 102:4,7,8 |\n| 187:22 | 170:13,22 | 177:19 178:8,15 | house 3:11 72:12 |\n| hear 10:23,23 11:1 | hiring 152:25 | 178:17 186:1 | 72:14 201:21 |\n| 13:5 92:6 | 154:25 | 187:7,10 189:1,16 | 202:2 |\n| heard 10:20 39:5,6 | history 170:6 | 189:20 191:6,9,16 | housekeeping |\n| 52:22 111:9 134:6 | hit
37.7 | 192:13 193:20 | 10:21 |\n| 139:4,7,9 162:25 | hmmm | 195:11 196:2 | 87:9,11 155:1,9
hr |\n| 163:13 172:4,16 | 114:18 115:5 | 199:19 200:4,24 | 155:16,23 |\n| 178:6 193:8 | | 201:1,6,24 204:20 | |\n| | | | |\n\n#### [huh - investment]\n\n| huh 54:2 101:2 | 118:9,10 151:12 | instruction 45:8 | interpreter
3:17 |\n|---------------------|----------------------|----------------------|---------------------|\n| 137:19 155:16 | 153:5 157:5,6 | 58:21 68:10,24 | 3:18 8:24 9:4,6,9 |\n| hull 1:25 7:19 | 170:14 179:6 | 69:10 89:14,22 | 9:14 10:2,4,5,7,9 |\n| 212:5 213:4 | income 118:17,18 | 91:18 94:9 96:2,9 | 10:10,11 11:8 |\n| humble 48:14 | 118:20 119:2 | 96:16,19,24 98:16 | 31:12 40:20,21 |\n| 49:24 50:7,21 | 123:14,18,21 | 98:18 106:2 108:2 | 52:5,21,22 53:1,4 |\n| hundred 4:17 | 124:9 | 125:2 130:24 | 53:6,14,17 54:7,10 |\n| 105:22 120:17 | incorporation
5:5 | 133:6 | 54:11,25 55:6 |\n| hundreds 82:15 | 168:4.9 | integrity
127:1 | 59:18 81:1 131:12 |\n| hurt 129:19 | indicated
188:4 | 128:22 | 131:13,14,15,16 |\n| 174:23 | indicates
57:21 | intend 15:6 | 133:11 143:13,18 |\n| hurted
175:7 | individually 121:7 | intended
146:1 | 143:22,23 144:8 |\n| husband 201:25 | inference
94:14 | intending 158:23 | 144:12,13 146:5 |\n| i | influence 13:13 | interact 80:5 | 147:1,9,24.25 |\n| identification 19:8 | 23:18
inform | interacted 74:23 | 153:22 154:5 |\n| 28:18 43:6 55:11 | information 16:20 | 79:6,14,19 80:10 | 200:18 201:3,4,14 |\n| 128:10 166:24 | 36:19 51:4 60:1 | interacting
80:17 | interpreters 8:19 |\n| 209:18 | 61:23 62:4,10 | 80:21 | interprets 40:20 |\n| identifying 156:13 | 64:2 130:8 156:8 | interaction 80:3 | 52-20 29-18 |\n| identity 127:5 | 156:14 | interest
146:11 | 131:12 |\n| 128:9 150:10 | informed
87:11 | 186:22,24 187:3,7 | interrupt 30:15 |\n| 153:18 154:2 | informs
26:10 | 187:11,13 189:16 | 75:19 150:12 |\n| ii 2:11 | inhouse
16:13 | interested
47:18 | interrupting 76:18 |\n| immediate 85:6 | 155:25 | 128:10 145:6,8 | 152:12
interview |\n| immediately | inoperative
166:7 | 212:22 | 152:15 154:6,15 |\n| 152:18,25 186:10 | 168:16 169:4,17 | interesting 151:4 | 154:15 |\n| impair
13:14 | 169:19,25 171:14 | interests
રી : 25 | interviews 118:10 |\n| important 11:21 | 172:23 173:2,13 | 52:16 54:21 58:8 | invade
146:1 |\n| impression 75:12 | input 180:8 | 58:16 68:2,6,20 | invest
120:25 |\n| inauthentic 170:8 | inquire
116:7 | 87:19 88:18 90:16 | 175.25 |\n| include 24:4 85:18 | insisting 76:11 | 91:3,14 95:7 | invested
176:5 |\n| 89:15 111:3,6 | instruct 20:11 | interfere 13:15 | investing 118:2 |\n| 125:3 157:8,12 | 26:15 37:2,14 | 102:11
internal | investment 114:11 |\n| 164:5 | 38:3 42:9 66:5,6 | interpret 8:24 9:1 | 115:20 117:20,25 |\n| included 119:19 | 66:14 67:15 | 9:9,11 183:22 | 118:23 123:16,22 |\n| 214:14 215:3 | 116:14 126:23 | 201:15 | 123:23 124:6 |\n| includes 119:10 | instructed 6:1 | interpreted 9:2,12 | 174:15,24 175:3,9 |\n| including 48:9 | 95:24 141:21 | 143:22 144:12 | 175:22 176:3 |\n| 84:8,12 89:14 | instructing 42:16 | 147:9,25 154:5 | 179:24 181:3,4,21 |\n| 91:20 92:18,19,21 | 67:9 129:9 | 188:6 201:3 | 183:15,19 |\n| 95:25 99:4 115:19 | | | |\n\n[investments - kong]\n\n| investments | 154:14 174:19 | 12:12 14:22
know | 154:8,12,14 |\n|------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|--------------------|\n| 118:25 | 196:12 214:5 | 21:13,16 22:25 | 155:11 159:9,15 |\n| 118:24
invests. | 216:2 | 28:1 31:6 32:21 | 160:13 161:1,2 |\n| invoice
148:7,15 | johnston 3:17 8:23 | 33:3 38:11,15,16 | 162:19 163:1,4,15 |\n| 148:16 | 10:6 11:15 12:15 | 39:11 41:23 48:24 | 163:16,23 165:4 |\n| involved 99:12 | 52:11 54:3 55:5 | 49:14 50:3 54:10 | 170:12,18,18,21 |\n| 124:20 133:2,5,10 | 59:15 98:11 131:8 | 25:1 26:18 50:9 | 170:23 172:20,25 |\n| 134:20,24 135:15 | 133:12 143:17 | 59:10,12,13,17 | 173:4,10,10,12,14 |\n| 135:16 143:24 | 144:10 147:5 | 60:7,9,10,19 61:4 | 175:12 180:15 |\n| 144:14 152:7,24 | 153:25 200:23 | 61:7,21 63:7,14,20 | 185:18 187:15 |\n| 164:7 179:20 | jonathan 3:10 8:4 | 64:6 70:2 73:21 | 191:3 192:9 193:5 |\n| 180:20 183:12 | judge 127:13 | 74:11,22 75:9 | 193:11,12 194:6 |\n| 191:4,20 192:4,12 | 1 28:8 | 76:13 77:19,25 | 194:22,23 195:9 |\n| 196:4 | judgment 23:19 | 78:4.11.14.16.17 | 197:5.15.17 |\n| involves
197:3 | 127:11,12,14 | 78:18 80:13 82:14 | 198:21 199:3,22 |\n| involving 13:24 | jumping 154:13 | 84:20 86:19 95:10 | 199:24 200:1 |\n| 178:25 179:9 | 3:4
justice | 100:10,12,23 | 201:10 203:6 |\n| 184:3 | k | 102:1,20 103:12 | 204:1.14.23.25 |\n| issue 41:20 127:10 | k
38:14,14 39:13 | 103:22 105:3 | 205:2,7,8 207:6,7 |\n| 127:12,13,14 | 39:13,14,14 | 107:9 108:15,15 | 208:23 |\n| 132:20 142:22 | 148:25 | 108:17,18,24,25 | knowledge 46:15 |\n| 149:8,11 153:12 | kaplan 3:10 8:4,4 | 109:1 110:6,9,19 | 46:17 47:14,15,22 |\n| 156:10 164:21 | 19:18 | 110:22 111:11,13 | 49:8,10,13,20,25 |\n| 183:12 | kaulet 2:9 | 111:14 112:6,23 | 50:19,23 51:10,18 |\n| issues 124:20 | keep 57:13 130:9 | 113:3,25 114:6 | 60:2 62:9 64:3 |\n| 128:25 157:20 | 132:17 151:20 | 115:11,13 116:25 | 104:21 105:2 |\n| 108.7
item | kenneth 2:5 8:7 | 117:1,5,9 120:7 | 121:25 122:4,5,11 |\n| J | 211:2212:2
kern | 122:15 124:3.3.8 | 133:18,24 143:25 |\n| 84:6,11 86:2.3
iail | kidnap
47:11 | 125:17 128:15,19 | 150:1 160:22 |\n| jalbert 193:11,14 | kidnapped 48:11 | 130:7 131 · 23 | 172:18 188:21 |\n| jam
1:8 7:14 | 84:11 86:2 | 132:1,9,11 133:3,9 | 206:24 207:4,10 |\n| ieff
7:17 112:7 | 121:20
kids | 133:11,15 134:1,1 | known
175:18 |\n| jeffrey 3:16 | kind
49:9 73:23 | 134:14 135:5,6 | knows
53:10,12 |\n| jerking 57:13 | 96:5 122:23 138:8 | 136:12 141:16,17 | 136:6 173:24 |\n| jerry 170:17,18,24 | 146:15 151:15 | 141:24 142:1 | kong 18:16,18,20 |\n| 171:18 172:9,9 | 163:22 195:21 | 143:2,10,20 | 18:21,25 21:5 |\n| ikaplan 3:13 | 203:11 206:17 | 144:15 145:18 | 22:6,8 23:11,12,20 |\n| job
34:15 65:21 | 141:18
kinds | 146:10,13,24 | 23:22 24:3,7,8,12 |\n| 66:1 93:5 149:9 | 53:11 75:11
knew | 147:7,12,14,17,21 | 24:13,21,23 25:1,3 |\n| 149:17 151:11,13 | 136:5 | 150:19,21 151:20 | 25:3,3,6,7,16,19 |\n| 151:21 154:12,13 | | 152:17 153:1,2,14 | 27:10,15,1630:5 |\n| | | | |\n\n| 31:23 32: 1,3,4 | 189:20 191:6,9,16 | lawyer
126: 17 | likes
197:6 |\n|----------------------|-----------------------------------------|------------------------|-------------------------|\n| 44:15,18 45:7,17 | 191:21192:4 | 132:5 150: 18 | limit
138:4,8 |\n| 45:22 | 193 :20 194: 1 | 172:1 | limited
2:22 4:21 |\n| korean
35:10 | 195:1,11196:2 | lawyers
17:20,20 | 5:12 17:4 18:9,11 |\n| kwok
1:8 2:5 7:11 | 197:20 198:20 | 18:6 62:24 155:25 | 18:17 43:25 46:1 |\n| 8:8 37:25 38: 11 | 199: 19 200:4,24 | 208:2 | 47:2151:2452:14 |\n| 38: 14 39:6 40:6 | 201:1,24 204:21 | learn
48: 17 142:24 | 54:20 58:7 59:21 |\n| 41: 16,24 42:4 | 205: 11 206: 1,14 | 191: 1 | 90:18 91:16,24 |\n| 45:18,22 52:1,16 | 206: 19 214:4 | learned
114:2, 14 | 92:9 93:6 95:4 |\n| 52:16,22,22 53:5,7 | 216:1 | 114:25 134:4 | 98:3,23 99: 12 |\n| 53:9,13,21 54:22 | kwok's
39: 18 42: 1 | 140:12 146:15 | 103:10 104:13 |\n| 58:9,16 66:7 68:2 | 74: 15 76:22 87: 19 | 162:10,23 163:7 | 110: 18,20 111: 12 |\n| 68:6,11,19 70:16 | 88: 17 90: 16 91:2 | 163 : 10 1 71: 13 | 113:21114:23 |\n| 72:3,9, 17 74: 11 | 97:3,22,22 98:4 | 176:9,12 | 115:8,12 117:6,10 |\n| 75:11,13,25 76:25 | 100: 12,24 103: 13 | lease
208:11,19 | 118:8,14 119:5 |\n| 77:1,4 81:4,9,15 | 104:5,9,14 110:25 | leased
111 :6, 12 | 120:12 121:4,16 |\n| 81:16,21 82:1,10 | 177: 16 192:8,13 | leaving
25:2 127:5 | 122:2,8, 14 124: 11 |\n| 82:19,23 83:7 | 201:6 204:20 | 175:2 193:17 | 127:7,18 128:12 |\n| 84:15 85:1,10,10 | 206:9 | left
30:3 31:8 67:8 | 131:10 133:16 |\n| 85:13,19,23 86:8 | kwong
75:9
C--------~-----------j | legal
7:18,2052:2 | 134:20 137: 11 |\n| 88:18 89:5,5,13 | 1 | 59:22,25 60:12,14 | 148: 18 156:7 |\n| 91:14 92:10 93:14 | 1 3:5,638:14,23 | 61: 13,21 107:2,5 | 157:3 158: 18 |\n| 94: 16 95:7, 12 | 170:17 171:25 | 182:18 209:11 | 160:22 163 :22 |\n| 98:24 99: 13 100:8 | 2: 12 9:21
1.p. | 214:7 | 165:22 166: 15 |\n| 101:4,12 102:17 | 1.p.'s
5: 10 | lender
42:3 131:25 | 168: 10 169:25 |\n| 103:3 104:21 | laid
164: 15 | 132:6 146: 16 | 172:10 175:14 |\n| 105:5,15,24 106:6 | language
30: 1 | lenders
139: 1 | 177: 15 180:6 |\n| 106: 15,23,24 | 39:23 50:2 62:25 | letter
153:9, 13 | 186: 10 192:3 |\n| 107:8,25 108: 12 | 63:25 64:168:4,8 | license
51:21 | 193:19 195:5,7 |\n| 108:22 109:7 | 79: 19 85:2,4 | licensed
51: 14 | 206:14 |\n| 111: 13 115:3,6 | 89:21 93: 16,17 | life
61:5,8 195:25 | limited's
119: 18 |\n| 118:6 119: 10,20 | 148:2 | 197:3 | 123:14 126:22 |\n| 119:22 121:3,23 | late
28:11 | lifestyle
68: 12 | 130:12 |\n| 121:25 122:6,21 | launched
175:18 | 96: 1 97:3,22 98:5 | limo
108: 17 |\n| 136: 18 139: 13, 18 | law
2:6, 12,16,22 | 98:24 99:9 100: 12 | limousine
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168:21 | lifetime
59: 1 | 29:7 33:8 35:8 |\n| 178:17 186:1 | lawsuit
174:22 | light
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37:3 | 133:20 134:5,7,8 | long 80:24 81:8,14 | 171:25 |\n| liquid
127:6,17 | 136:18,23 137:4 | 84:1,13 85:19,22 | ma'am
20:24 |\n| 128:6 | 137:18 138:3,19 | 85:24 86:4,6 87:3 | 21:15 54:4 56:5 |\n| list
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78:19 |\n| 187:17 188:25 | 185:12,14 186:4 | looking 29:7 49:10 | 78:19
majorly |\n| 191:17 206:2 | 186:12 188:5.9 | 50:4,5 51:5 60:7,8 | makenzie
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looks | man's
101:5 |\n| 44:11 66:17 74:5 | loaned
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lots | 53:4,5 54:13 |\n| 204:15 206:25 | 187:4,8,11,14,17 | loud
174:10 | manhattan
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116:11 | | 209:18 |\n| 131:22,23,25 | | | |\n\n**[mary- mix]**\n\n| mary
171:25 | 120:21,22,24 | 93: 13 94:3 95:9 | 75:25 76:25 |\n|------------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|\n| matter
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142:23 |\n| 144:14 154:8,10 | 125: 12 127:8,9 | media
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15: 19,21,22 | 179:21 180:21 |\n| 178:25 | 139:24 141:25 | 15:23 16:2,5,21 | 181:8 182:11,13 |\n| maybach
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178:25 |\n| mean
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18:2 |\n| 15:22,23 17:24 | 164:22 174:23 | 122:22 205: 11 | mind
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120:22 | 91: 1 107:24 |\n| 27: 11, 12, 12, 17, 18 | 179: 13,23 180: 15 | memory
13:14 | 194:23 |\n| 27:23 28: 1 30: 1 | 180:24 182:12,18 | 36:20,22 | mine
93:3 |\n| 30:19 31:25 33:21 | 183:17 184:21 | men's
101:8,11 | miniature
21: 17 |\n| 34:6 36:4,7,10,14 | 188: 1,3,9 189:4 | mention
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185:6 | mischaracterize |\n| 81:23 82:8,11 | meaning
70:9 77:9 | mentions
66:6 | 161:7 |\n| 85:25 86: 18 88:22 | 82:23 85: 18 86:5 | merge
27:21 | mischaracterizes |\n| 89:12,17,23 92:1 | 86:20 89:20 93 :25 | message
195: 17 | 159: 19 161:5 |\n| 92:22 93: 16, 16 | 104:9 105:4 | met
17:19 35:10 | missing
164:21 |\n| 96: 1,4,5 97:5 98:6 | 121:10 125:1 | 35: 19 40: 13 74: 17 | mistaken
128:8 |\n| 98:16 100:4,15,17 | 186:21 | 77:8, 13 113 :2,5, 17 | misunderstanding |\n| 101:14 102:4,11 | means
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85: 10 | 143:14 200:12 |\n| 114:16 116:13,19 | 134:2 135:5 142:3 | mileson
37:25 | mix
24:22 70: 11 |\n| 118: 18 119:7 | meant
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mom | 29:22 | 194:7,8,9 195:17 | 32:3,11,13,15 |\n| moment 12:10 | multiple
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n | 201:21 | 47:21 49:5,19 |\n| 190:16 193:22 | 38:14,22,23 39:9 | 89.16 92.11
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87:22 | 81:3,6 90:18 |\n| 159:9,16 160:2,6 | 52:10 53:4,12,13 | negotiated
187:3.6 | 91:16,17,19,24 |\n| 160:14 161:23 | 53:19,24 54:12,13 | negotiating
191:4 | 92:9,17 93:6 95:4 |\n| 163:3,7,11 175:24 | 64:3 76:7.9.14 | negotiation
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moneys | 171:18 175:20 | 212:20 | 104:24 109:11,13 |\n| month 96:14,15 | 193:12,17 211:11 | 84:9
nephew | 109:18 110:7,15 |\n| 109:6 138:17 | named
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192:8,13 | 148:24 212:8 | 29:13 30:24
never | 111:11,17 113:2 |\n| months
19:473:21 | 58:20 59:21
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0 | 95:23 100:18 | offices
140:25 |\n| nine
29:3.5 | 38:14,23,23,24 | 101:11 102:7 | official
76:14 |\n| 176:14
nods | 39:9,12,13,13,14 | 106:9,20 107:18 | officially 23:25 |\n| noise
171:6 | 39:14 112:24 | 109:2 117:15 | 24:17 40:22 |\n| nonpayment | 116:22 147:16 | 127:21 129:16 | 170:13 |\n| 168:17 172:23 | 148:25 | 137:6 140:2 | 22:23 25:22
oh |\n| normal
102:12 | o'clock 67:2 112:8 | 141:14 154:8 | 65:20 69:3 71:6,8 |\n| 57:20
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105:24 | 11:6,17,19 12:1,6 |\n| noted 111:22 | 125:24 126:23 | 131:20 179:15 | 12:9,16,19 13:2,3 |\n| notes
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16:11 | 73:16 75:10 77:14 | 20:18,23 22:3,24 |\n| noticed 125:18 | | 78:11 79:13 96:17 | 23:8,16,18 24:9,20 |\n| 160:23 | 26:1,20 38:3
41:19 44:19 45:3 | 171:9 173:8 | 25:9,21 27:20 |\n| | | | |\n\n[ **okay** - **page]**\n\n| 28:4,13,23 29:2,3 | 133:8 135:7 | 204:19 205:15,19 | originally
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212:23 |\n| 34: 15 35:8 37:25 | 139:4, 10 140: 17 | 2:14,19
omm.com | 179:6
outfit |\n| 38:17 39:3,8,18 | 141:2,11,23 142:2 | 2:19 | outside
16: 14 |\n| 40:5 42: 18 43: 13 | 142:9,14 143:2 | 13:23 69:22
once | 31:20 114:8 |\n| 43:18 44:12 45:16 | 145: 1 146: 13 | 69:25 83 :3,5 | outweighs
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190: 1, 1,2 | 130: 17 |\n| 53:17 54:6,14 | 150:15,16,22 | online
196:21 | owned
18:18 |\n| 55:7,14 56:6,7,12 | 151:4 152:2,7,17 | 197:6 202: 11,17 | 86:24 109:21,23 |\n| 56: 15 57:4, 12,25 | 153:4 155:15,17 | 202:19 203:13,16 | 115: 17 206:8 |\n| 60:4,6,13,17 61:10 | 157: 11,14 158:6 | 210:9
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17:3 30:8 |\n| 61:25 66:16 67:17 | 158:10,14 160:9 | open
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56:6 | 92:17 101:16 |\n| 73:3,10,15,18 74:3 | 163:19 164:1,5,9 | operate
46:6 118:3 | 119: 12 122:24,24 |\n| 74:8 76:2, 10 77:7 | 166:2, 19 167:8, 15 | operated
164: 10 | 123:2,5 132:21,22 |\n| 77: 16 79:5 82:22 | 168: 1 169: 1,24 | operating
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127:9 | 181: 19 |\n| 87:21 88:6, 11 | 173:6,10 175:2,10 | 128:17 142:17,19 | ownership
37:8 |\n| 89:23 90: 15,21,25 | 175:12,16 176:4,8 | 149:24 174:20 | owns
109:22 110: 1 |\n| 93:24 94:8 95:22 | 176: 15,21,25 | 179:6 | 110:7,20 111: 10 |\n| 96: 16 97:7 98: 14 | 177:2,6, 11,25 | operations
179:8 | 111: 17 122:6 |\n| 98:21 99:2,24 | 178:11,16,24 | 195:15 208:6,8,15 | 206:25 |\n| 100:7,23 101:24 | 179:3,14,18 | opinion
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86: 14 148:25 |\n| 104:20 105: 10 | 183:4,10 185:5 | opportunity
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174:4 209:6 |\n| 106:4, 12,22 | 186:2,4,8, 18 | 5: 10 9:21 181:22 | 210:8 |\n| 108: 18,20 109:8 | 187:20 188: 15,22 | oral
190:2,12 | pacific
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4:3,11 5:2 |\n| 117:21 118: 1,5,24 | 194:6, 18 195: 19 | 122:6 | 6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 |\n| 119: 10 120: 11, 19 | 196:5, 18,20 | organized
168: 13 | 6:1121:10,14,16 |\n| 120:22 121:2 | 197: 10,23 198: 11 | orient
73: 16 | 21:20,24 22:3,4, 12 |\n| 123:20 124:4 | 198: 14 199: 17 | 168:3
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149:9 | 90:5 155:5,17,21 |\n| 57:12,14,15,25 | 36:11
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pages | 68:11 81:17
pay | 214:17 215:6 | 27:9,11,18 196:20 |\n| 4:25 5:8,16 20:20 | 81:17 95:24 111:8 | permanent 27:25 | picked
35:24 |\n| 21:17,18,21,25 | 120:23 145:19 | permanently | 152:15
picky |\n| 22:21,22 23:3 | 146:16,17,23 | 27:21,23 | piece
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questions |\n| purpose
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75:23 | 147:18 148:3,5,10 | 67:9, 16,24 68: 15 | 128:4 129: 1 |\n| 164:22 | 148: 19 157:8 | 71:11,22 74:9,9,11 | 130:17 153:15 |\n| purposes
18: 19 | 159:3,7,10,22 | 74: 14,15,17,20,23 | 180:17 205:24 |\n| 109:5 117:11 | 161:2 163:12 | 75:8,9 76:20,22,24 | 208:22,25 209:4 |\n| 156:21 158: 10 | 164: 18 165:21 | 77:7,8,16,17 78:5 | quick
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5: 12 | 170: 18 172:7,12 | 78:9, 10, 13 79:5,6 | quite
31: 15 134:23 |\n| 212: 18 | 175:12,17 177:18 | 79:9, 12 80:9, 19 | 170:5 199:5 |\n| put
21:4 29:8 | 178:2,6, 15,20,23 | 81: 13 82: 16 84:24 | quote
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116:22 147: 15,16 |\n| 175: 19 209:23,23 | 187:5 189:20 | 97:25 98:7,25 | 216:3,3 |\n| putative
42:3 | 191:3,8 194: 16,16 | 102:15 103:25 | r&s
215:1,9 |\n| q | 195:24,25 199:4,8 | 109: 10 116: 17 | raise
8:20 9:5,15 |\n| qiang
17:4 24:24 | 199: 11,12,15,17 | 119:21 121:2,6 | raised
90:23 |\n| 30:8 31 :25 32:5 | 199:22 200:8 | 122:10 123:13 | range
104:5 108:8 |\n| 34:14 38:2139:12 | 201:7,12 206:11 | 125:3,19,21 | rate
186:24 187:3 |\n| 39:21 40:3,8,17,24 | 206:21 | 126:20,24 128:5 | 187:7,11,13 |\n| 41:6 45:9 46:2 | quality
154:9 | 130:4 131:6,12 | 189:16 |\n| 48:9 53:20 55:3 | quarrel
96:6 | 132:25 133:8,9 | read
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recess | reframe
80:19 |\n|---------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------------|\n| 75:1 84:3,17,19 | 14:16 19:2 25:22 | 112:15 126:1,6 | 21:335:25
refresh |\n| 93:4 144:18 145:9 | 25:23 32:18 33:25 | 174:5 | 36:20,22 169:1 |\n| 146:8 157:23 | 34:23,24 35:1 | recited 95:3 96:10 | refreshes
169:14 |\n| 168:24 170:14 | 40:23 41:5.10.12 | recognize 43:16 | refused
106.5 |\n| 171:17 203:4,7,14 | 44:3,4,16 45:12,13 | recognized 43:22 | 178:17,20,22 |\n| 203:15 205:14,17 | 45:16,23 59:2,4,6 | 14.2
recollect | regard 74:24 |\n| 211:5 | 59:8 60:22,22 | recollection 21:3 | 79:14 80:10 |\n| reading 13:4,9 | 61:2,9 64:19,20,22 | 35:25 64:17 151:5 | regarding 30:6 |\n| 31:14 36:22 37:18 | 65:5,7,8 67:8 68:5 | 151:6 169:2,14 | 51:4 180:25 |\n| 39:17 85:2,4 | 69:20,23,24 70:1 | 187:18 | regards 79:7 |\n| 146:15 214:23 | 70:18 71:1,6 73:9 | reconvening 112:7 | 141:4 |\n| 215-9 | 80:24 82:7.9.11.12 | record 7:6,22 | regiment 195:24 |\n| 22:5 33:10
reads | 82:17,18,21 83:2,8 | 29:18,19 66:11,22 | register
4:19 |\n| real 47:15 51:9.13 | 87:10,11,17 90:13 | 67:1 112:13,17 | 43:24 56:10 |\n| 51:17 86:5 114:10 | 96:3,13,18,21,23 | 116:10 126:4,8,11 | regular
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26:3 |\n| realtor
51:13,14 | 149:19,23,24 | recruitment | relationship
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32: 12 | 104: 17 134:8 | 15:18 99:16 |\n| remember
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92: 18 | 214:8,10,13 215:2 |\n| 98: 17 105: 14 | 106: 10 107: 16 | 119: 13 190:7 | revival
5:6 166:13 |\n| 109:20 138: 17,22 | 151:19 168:18 | requests
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13: 1 | 18: 13 20: 10 21: 14 |\n| remind
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71:13,15 | 21:15 22:1623:1 |\n| 166: 17 | 212:6 | 72:2,5,8 73: 1 | 23:6 24: 16 30:3 |\n| reminded
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67:22 | 14:9 172:11,19 | 206:9,25 | 40:6,7 42:24 |\n| reminds
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149: 11 | 48:15,17 51:4,14 |\n| remote
1: 14 | 25:4 | respect
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211:9 | 44:24 90:9 | 201:6 | 61: 15,24 62:20 |\n| rent
161:20 | represented | respected
165: 16 | 64:5 65: 18 66:7 |\n| 206:21 | 156: 18 172:7 | response
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111: 12 | representing
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151: 13 | 75:20 76:3,7,12 |\n| reopen
158:24 | 8:8,10,12 | restroom
66: 18 | 79: 12,23 82: 13 |\n| repaid
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181:23 | 88:2 89:5, 16 91:6 |\n| 163:15 184:11 | 172:9 | 212:22 | 91:25 92:11,20 |\n| repay
206:1 | request
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138:25 | 94:4,6, 10,21 98:8 |\n| repeat
16: 16 49:23 | 58:23 99:5 106:5 | 147: 18 209: 11 | 98:19 101:6,15 |\n| 52: 18 54:3,8 | 111 :22 131:9 | return
25:25 | 102:4,17 103:10 |\n| 92: 15 97:25 131 :8 | 132: 18,23 133 :3 | 214: 17 215:6 | 106:19 108:1,20 |\n| 143: 17 147:4 | 133: 15,20 134:4 | returned
149: 12 | 110:8 111: 1,23 |\n| 152:20 | 134: 14 156:21 | returning
123: 13 | 116:24 117:9 |\n| repeated
156: 19 | 186:9,9, 16 192: 16 | returns
123: 15 | 119: 16 121 :21 |\n| rephrase
12: 12 | 195:22 207:12,12 | revenue
118:20 | 124:6 125: 15 |\n| 191:25 | 207:14 | 123:23 124:7,7 | 127: 11,22 128:2 |\n| | | | 129: 16 130: 13 |\n| | | | |\n\n| 131:17 132:5 | 52:2,18 54:23 | દ | 170:4 186:9 190:6 |\n|----------------------|--------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|\n| 135:24 136:20 | 65:11,18 66:10 | 2:5 4:9 5:4 18:15
S | 192:23 196:22 |\n| 137:2 141:6,25 | 67:14 71:16,23 | 34:1 38:14,23 | 207:1,12 |\n| 142:7 145:11 | 90:2,12,22 92:13 | 81:6 115:15 125:7 | 172:22
screen |\n| 148:13,22,25 | 94:17 95:18 | 147:15,16 148:25 | 209:24 |\n| 149:4,13,14,15 | 103:23 111:15,20 | 171:25 185:4 | scroll
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seat |\n| 155:10 158:7 | 116:1,10 119:24 | 108:25 141:8
safe | second
19:11,19 |\n| 159:17 160:19 | 121:5 122:9.17 | safety
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saks | 119:25 151:23 |\n| 172:2 173:16 | 126:23 128:3,21 | 198:16,19 | 166:18 176:22 |\n| 177:2,20 179:16 | 129:11.24 130:14 | sarnoff 2:15 8:13 | 188:21 207:25 |\n| 179:17 181:9.17 | 131:1 140:6.8 | 8:13 | 132.8
seconds |\n| 181:19,25 183:2,3 | 143:12 150:7,16 | saved 44:7 205-23 | 138:20 163:17 |\n| 183:18,21 189:17 | 153:11,14 156:8 | 23:15 50:18
Saw | 205:20 |\n| 190:19 194:20 | 157:19 158:12 | 140:23 145:16,21 | secret 132:17 |\n| 197:13.14 198:12 | 159:18 161:4,8 | 199:6 | secretary 42:23,25 |\n| 200:10 202:20 | 165:5,17 166:9 | saying 54:13 65:25 | 45:25 46:13 47:20 |\n| 203:16 204:15 | 170:2,11 186:16 | 92:12 94:13 95:1 | 49:4 97:20 98:2 |\n| 207:20 208:21 | 187:23 188:13 | says 20:1,19 51:8 | 110:19 134:18 |\n| 209:2 210:1 | 190:8 191:23 | 56:13,17 58:5 | 142:6 166:4 |\n| rights
127:2 | 193:3 203:25 | 84:5 89:9 107:8 | secured
3:10 |\n| risk
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role | 209:21,23 210:2,4 | 168:2,12 172:22 | securities
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17:22 | schedule
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sit |\n| 41:6 145:23
seen | 196:8.14
shoes | 171:10 | 47:1,3,4 73:21
SİX |\n| 184:15 | 198:19 201:7 | silverberg 2:5 8:9 | 73:25 77:20,24 |\n| 197:21 201:2
sees | shop
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7:9 20:2 | |\n| 107:8 194:7 209:8 | |\n| | |\n\nFederal Rules of Civil Procedure\n\nRule 30\n\n(e) Review By the Witness; Changes.\n\n(1) Review; Statement of Changes. On request by the deponent or a party before the deposition is completed, the deponent must be allowed 30 days after being notified by the officer that the transcript or recording is available in which: (A) to review the transcript or recording; and (B) if there are changes in form or substance, to sign a statement listing the changes and the reasons for making them.\n\n(2) Changes Indicated in the Officer's Certificate. The officer must note in the certificate prescribed by Rule 30 (f) (1) whether a review was requested and, if so, must attach any changes the deponent makes during the 30-day period.\n\nDISCLAIMER: THE FOREGOING FEDERAL PROCEDURE RULES ARE PROVIDED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. THE ABOVE RULES ARE CURRENT AS OF APRIL 1, 2019. 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KENNETH AULET（肯尼斯·奥莱特先生）\n律师\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, New York 10036\n(212) 209-4924\n(212) 209-4950\nbsilverberg@brownrudnick.com\nkaulet@brownrudnick.com\n\n代表债权人 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund, L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）：\nO'Melveny & Myers（奥美律师事务所）\n代理人：\nMR. DAVID V. HARBACH II（大卫·V·哈巴赫二世先生）\n律师\n1625 Eye Street NW\nWashington, DC 20006\n(202) 383-5127\ndharbach@omm.com\n\n以及\n\n代理人：\nMR. STUART M. SARNOFF（斯图尔特·M·萨诺夫先生）\nMS. AISLING MURRAY（艾斯林·默里女士）\n律师\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, New York 10036\n(212) 326-2293\n(212) 728-5831\nssarnoff@omm.com\namurray@omm.com\n\n代表债权人 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）：\nCohn Birnbaum Shea（科恩·伯恩鲍姆·谢伊律师事务所）\n代理人：\nMR. SCOTT D. ROSEN（斯科特·D·罗森先生）\n律师\n100 Pearl Street\nHartford, Connecticut 06103\n(860) 493-2220\nsrosen@cbshealaw.com\n\n第 2 页\n\n出庭人员（续）\n\n代表美国受托人：\nUnited States Department of Justice（美国司法部）\n代理人：\nMS. HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN（霍莉·L·克莱伯恩女士）\n律师\n1100 L Street NW\nRoom 12210\nWashington, DC 20005\n(202) 514-2000\nholley.l.claiborn@usdoj.gov\n\n代表有担保债权人委员会：\nPullman & Comley（普尔曼与科姆利律师事务所）\n代理人：\nMR. JONATHAN KAPLAN（乔纳森·卡普兰先生）\n律师\n90 State House Square\nHartford, Connecticut 06103\n(860) 424-4379\njkaplan@pullcom.com\n\n录像员：\nJeffrey Nichols（杰弗里·尼科尔斯）\n\n口译员：\nSunny Johnston（森尼·约翰斯顿）（普通话）\nUna Wilkinson（尤娜·威尔金森）（普通话）\n\n核对口译员：\n\n其他出席人员：\nMakenzie Russo（麦肯齐·鲁索）\n\n第 3 页\n\n索引\n\n询问\n\nHARBACH 先生进行的询问 第 10 页\n\n证物\n\n证物 1 —\nYan Ping Wang（王燕萍）于 October 11, 2018 作出的证言记录，共四十二页 第 19 页\n\n证物 2 —\n庭审记录，日期为 April 26, 2019，共一百二十五页 第 28 页\n\n证物 3 —\nGolden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司），一家 Delaware Corporation（特拉华州公司）的董事及高级职员登记册，共三页 第 43 页\n\n证物 4 —\nYan Ping Wang（王燕萍）的宣誓书，日期为 November 14, 2013，共三页 第 55 页\n\n第 4 页\n\n证物（续）\n\n证物 5 —\n证物 B，Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）的 Delaware（特拉华州）公司注册证书及恢复资格证书，日期为 March 10, 2015，共五页 第 166 页\n\n证物 6 —\nPacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）根据《联邦民事诉讼规则》第 30(b)(6) 条发出的对 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的证言通知，日期为 March 29, 2022，共七页 第 209 页\n\n第 5 页\n\n被指示不得回答的问题：\n\n第 36 页第 18 行\n\n第 37 页第 25 行\n\n第 41 页第 16 行\n\n第 65 页第 9 行\n\n第 126 页第 20 行\n\n第 128 页第 18 行\n\n第 130 页第 2 行\n\n第 150 页第 5 行\n\n第 157 页第 17 行\n\n第 6 页\n\nNew York, New York\nTuesday, April 12, 2022；9:15 a.m.\n162 East 64th Street\n\n录像员：早上好。\n09:15:21\n\n我们现于 April 12th, 2022，9:15 a.m. 开始记录。\n09:15:25\n\n这是 Yvette Wang（王燕萍）作为 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）第 30(b)(6) 条证人的录像证言的第一媒体单元，该证言由债权人 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）在关于 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）的案件中提取，该案已向美国破产法院康涅狄格地区布里奇波特分院提交。\n09:15:27\n\n案件编号为 22-50073 (JAM)。\n09:15:49\n\n本次证言通过 Zoom 以远程方式进行。\n09:15:50\n\n我的名字是 Jeff Nichols（杰弗里·尼科尔斯），来自 Veritext Legal Solutions（Veritext 法律解决方案公司），我是录像员。\n09:15:57\n\n法庭记录员是 Suzanne Hull（苏珊娜·赫尔），来自 Veritext Legal Solutions（Veritext 法律解决方案公司）。\n09:16:02\n\n现在请各方律师为记录说明其出庭身份及所属机构。\n09:16:07\n\nHARBACH 先生：早上好。\n09:16:14\n\n我是 David Harbach（大卫·哈巴赫），来自 O'Melveny & Myers（奥美律师事务所），我代表 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）。\n09:16:15\n\n第 7 页\n\nROSEN 先生：早上好。\n09:16:24\n\nScott Rosen（斯科特·罗森），Cohn Birnbaum & Shea（科恩·伯恩鲍姆·谢伊律师事务所），代表 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）。\n09:16:28\n\nKAPLAN 先生：Jonathan Kaplan（乔纳森·卡普兰），Pullman & Comley（普尔曼与科姆利律师事务所），代表无担保债权人委员会。\n09:16:36\n\nAULET 先生：Kenneth Aulet（肯尼斯·奥莱特），Brown Rudnick（布朗·拉德尼克律师事务所），代表债务人 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）。\n09:16:40\n\nSILVERBERG 先生：Bennett Silverberg（贝内特·西尔弗伯格），Brown Rudnick（布朗·拉德尼克律师事务所），代表债务人。\n09:16:46\n\nRUSSO 女士：Makenzie Russo（麦肯齐·鲁索），来自 O'Melveny & Myers（奥美律师事务所），代表 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）。\n09:16:52\n\nSARNOFF 先生：Stuart Sarnoff（斯图尔特·萨诺夫），代表 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）。\n09:16:57\n\nCLAIBORN 女士：我是代表美国受托人的 Holley Claiborn（霍莉·克莱伯恩）。\n09:17:02\n\n录像员：谢谢。\n09:17:05\n\n请法庭记录员先让两位口译员宣誓，然后让证人宣誓。\n09:17:06\n\n记录员：请举起右手。\n09:17:14\n\nSUNNY JOHNSTON（森尼·约翰斯顿），受传唤担任将英语口译为普通话、并将普通话口译为英语的口译员，在依法宣誓将尽其所能翻译本程序后，作如下翻译：\n\n口译员：是，我愿意。\n09:17:20\n\n记录员：请举起右手，核对口译员。\n09:17:25\n\nUNA WILKINSON（尤娜·威尔金森），受传唤担任将英语口译为普通话、并将普通话口译为英语的口译员，在依法宣誓将尽其所能翻译本程序后，作如下翻译：\n\n核对口译员：是，我愿意。\n09:17:42\n\n记录员：请举起右手，证人。\n09:17:42\n\nYAN PING WANG（王燕萍），经债权人 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund, L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）的律师根据第 30(b)(6) 条传唤为公司代表，在依法宣誓后，作证如下：\n\n证人：是。\n09:17:59\n\n记录员：好的。请说明资质。\n09:18:02\n\n第 8 页\n\n口译员：好的。\n09:18:08\n\n各位早上好。\n09:18:09\n\n我是经法院认证的普通话口译员、California State Certified Interpreter（加利福尼亚州认证口译员）Sunny Johnston（森尼·约翰斯顿）。认证编号为 301314。\n09:18:10\n\n记录员：核对口译员，请说明资质。\n09:18:18\n\n核对口译员：我是普通话和英语的核对口译员，也是纽约州 Unified Court System（统一法院系统）认证的法庭口译员。\n09:18:25\n\n记录员：谢谢。\n09:18:36\n\n录像员：谢谢。\n09:18:37\n\n律师可以继续。\n09:18:37\n\n询问\n\nHARBACH 先生进行的询问：\n09:18:40\n\n问：王女士，早上好。\n09:18:41\n\n我的名字是 David Harbach（大卫·哈巴赫），正如您刚才所听到的。\n09:18:44\n\n在我们开始之前，有几项程序性事项。\n09:18:50\n\n您能听到我吗——您能清楚听到我吗？\n09:18:54\n\n答：能。\n09:19:09\n\n我能清楚听到您。\n09:19:10\n\n问：我知道您过去曾以英语作过证言。\n09:19:12\n\n您今天是否愿意以英语继续？\n09:19:18\n\n答：好的。我的母语不是英语，但我可以尝试以英语完成证言；不过，如有任何我不理解之处，我确实需要口译员在旁待命。\n09:19:37\n\n问：这——这听起来非常好，我们对此完全没有问题；因此我们可以用英语进行。如果您有任何问题，或者您希望将问题翻译成普通话，或者希望将回答翻译成普通话，请直接说明，Johnston 女士可以协助。\n09:20:02\n\n这对您可以吗？\n09:20:27\n\n答：好的，可以。\n09:20:30\n\n谢谢。\n09:20:52\n\n问：好的，非常好。\n09:20:52\n\n还有几件事。由于我们正在远程进行本次证言，对于法庭记录员而言，同一时间只能有一个人说话是非常重要的。\n09:20:56\n\n您明白吗？\n09:21:09\n\n答：（用英语）是的，我明白。是。\n09:21:12\n\n问：好的。很好。\n09:21:13\n\n那么，请您在我问完问题后再开始回答，并且我会尽力在您停止说话后再问下一个问题。\n09:21:18\n\n好吗？\n09:21:30\n\n答：是，先生。\n09:21:31\n\n谢谢。\n09:21:33\n\n问：好的。很好。\n09:21:33\n\n正如我刚才所说，如果有您不理解的问题，请告诉我，我很愿意尝试换一种表述方式。\n09:21:35\n\n如果有您希望翻译后再作答的问题，也没有问题。\n09:21:48\n\n这正是 Johnston 女士在此的原因。\n09:21:52\n\n好吗？\n09:21:59\n\n答：是，先生。\n09:22:00\n\n谢谢。\n09:22:02\n\n问：好的。您是否正在服用任何药物，或者——\n09:22:02\n\nROSEN 先生：律师，在我们开始之前，关于异议及签署的约定。\n09:22:11\n\n您的偏好是什么？\n09:22:18\n\nHARBACH 先生：Scott，我不确定我理解了。\n09:22:20\n\nROSEN 先生：通常的约定？除形式异议外，所有异议均保留至审判时提出？\n09:22:24\n\nHARBACH 先生：可以。我对此没有问题。\n09:22:32\n\nROSEN 先生：好的。证人不会放弃对证言记录进行签署和阅读的权利。\n09:22:36\n\nHARBACH 先生：Scott，我没有听到您说的话。\n09:22:42\n\n您能否大声一点？\n09:22:44\n\nROSEN 先生：好的。\n09:22:46\n\n证人不会放弃对证言记录进行签署和阅读的权利。\n09:22:46\n\nHARBACH 先生：好的。明白。\n09:22:50\n\nHARBACH 先生继续询问：\n09:22:58\n\n问：王女士，我正要问您，您是否正在服用任何药物，或者受任何可能损害您记忆力或妨碍您如实回答问题的任何事物影响。\n09:22:58\n\n答：没有。\n09:23:15\n\n问：您能想到有什么原因使您今天不能提供如实证言吗？\n09:23:17\n\n答：先生，我认为没有任何原因。\n09:23:24\n\n问：好的。很好。\n09:23:29\n\n我相信您此前至少曾于 October of 2018 在涉及 PAX 的诉讼中接受过一次证言。\n09:23:30\n\n您记得那次证言吗？\n09:23:46\n\n答：我记得我以前接受过证言，但我不记得——日期——确切日期。\n09:23:48\n\n问：明白。\n09:23:59\n\n除 PAX 对您进行询问的那次证言之外，自那以后您是否在任何其他诉讼中接受过证言？\n09:24:00\n\n答：先生，自——自那以后？您的意思是自什么时候以后？\n09:24:15\n\n问：我向您说明，PAX 对您进行的证言是在 October of 2018。\n09:24:20\n\n答：正确。\n09:26:51\n\n问：您是否亲自与他们见面以进行该项准备？\n09:26:52\n\n答：没有。\n09:26:57\n\n由于 COVID，我通过——通过视频通话与我们的律师会面。\n09:26:59\n\n问：谢谢。\n09:27:08\n\n您是否通过电话、视频会议或其他方式，与 Golden Spring（纽约金泉）的任何其他人沟通，以准备今天的证言？\n09:27:08\n\nROSEN 先生：异议。\n09:27:24\n\n我的问题是，自那以后你是否接受过证词录取？ 12\n09:24:30 证人可以在不披露其与任何内部法律顾问或\n12 09:27:25\n13 之间的谈话的情况下回答。 13 任何外部法律顾问的谈话。\n09:24:33 09:27:28\n\n答：我相信是的。\n09:24:34 14\n09:27:32\n\n问：你记得是在什么时候吗？ 证人：先生，抱歉。\n09:24:37 09:27:36\n15 15\n答：我不记得。 您能重复一下您的问题吗？\n09:24:44 09:27:37\n16 16\n\n问：在什么程序中？\n09:24:45 17 哈巴赫先生发问：\n09:27:40\n\n答：是在一个名为 Strategic Vision（战略愿景）、 18\n09:24:49 问：是。\n18 09:27:41\n\n19 Eastern Profits（东方利润）——或者 Eastern Profits、Strategic\n09:24:57 那是一个只需回答“是”或“否”的问题，并不要求提供\n\n09:27:41\n\n20 Vision 的案件中。应该是同一个案件。 20 任何——任何受特权保护的信息。\n09:25:02 09:27:43\n\n问：好的。你是否知道，那是在哪一审级的案件？ 问题是：你是否曾与 Golden Spring（纽约金泉）任何人员\n09:25:04 09:27:46\n21 21\n22 中？ 22 通过电话、Zoom、视频会议或其他方式——为\n09:25:07 09:27:50\n\n答：在纽约的一家法院。\n09:25:08 23 你今天的证词录取做准备？\n09:27:57\n\n问：好的。除那一次之外，自 October of2018 以来，你是否还接受过其他证词录取？\n09:25:11 24\n09:28:01\n25\n09:25:20 答：是的，我有。\n09:28:01\n\n第14页 第16页\n\n答：嗯。没有。\n09:25:25\n1 问：你为今天的证词录取做准备时，\n09:28:05\n\n问：你是否明白，你今天是作为 Golden Spring 2 与 Golden Spring 的谁进行过沟通？\n09:25:27 2\n09:28:08\n3 （New York）的公司代表在此作证？ 3\n09:25:35 09:28:11\n4 （纽约）？ 答：我与 Golden Spring（New York）Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的所有人\n09:25:40 4 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生进行了沟通。请\n09:28:11\n\n答：是的，我明白。\n09:25:40 5 我拼写一下，Q-i-a-n-g，姓氏为 G-u-o。\n09:28:25\n\n6 6\n问：你是否在今天作证前审阅了载于证词录取通知书中的、我们拟与你讨论的议题？ 问：你与他沟通花了多长时间？\n09:25:42 09:28:32\n7 7\n09:25:48 09:28:37\n8\n09:25:51 8\n答：多长时间？大约十到十五——大约十五分钟——十、十五分钟。\n09:28:38\n\n答：是。\n09:25:55 9\n09:28:49\n10 10\n我确实审阅了这些议题。 问：Golden Spring 是否还有其他人\n09:25:59 09:28:52\n\n问：好的。你为准备——抱歉——一般而言，为今天的证词录取做了什么准备？ 11\n09:26:01\n11 11 你曾与其沟通，以准备今天的\n09:28:55\n12 12 证词录取？\n09:26:05 09:28:57\n13\n09:26:08 答：没有。\n09:28:57\n\n14 14\n答：我与我们的律师事务所——与我们的律师一起做了准备。 问：除律师以外，世界上是否还有其他任何人\n09:26:09 09:28:58\n15\n09:26:15 15 你曾与其沟通，以准备\n09:29:01\n\n问：好的。你审阅过文件吗？\n09:26:16\n16 16 今天的证词录取？\n09:29:05\n17 17\n答：是。 答：没有。\n09:26:21 09:29:07\n18 问：名称是什么——撤回。\n我确实审阅了文件。 18\n09:26:22 09:29:09\n19 19\n问：你是否曾与 Golden Spring 的其他人员会面，为你今天的证词录取做准备？ 刚才，当你说你与律师会面、为今天的证词录取做准备时，\n09:26:24 09:29:26\n20 Golden Spring 20\n09:26:29 09:29:29\n\n答：会面——抱歉。\n09:26:32\n21 21 这些律师来自哪一家或哪几家律师事务所？\n09:29:35\n\n你是什么意思？你是指亲自会面吗？ 22\n答：来自 Scott Rosen（斯科特·罗森）先生所在律师事务所的律师。\n09:26:38 09:29:37\n23 你所说的“会面”是什么意思？ 23 我无法读出他所在律师事务所的名称。那应该是\n09:26:41 09:29:45\n\n问：嗯，刚才你说律师事务所协助你为今天做准备。\n09:26:43\n25\n09:26:49 24 ——我的意思是，对我而言读出\n09:29:49\n25 他所在律师事务所的名称很复杂；所以是 Scott Rosen（斯科特·罗森）先生及其\n09:29:55\n\n5（第14至17页）\n\n我同事，Timothy——Tim（蒂莫西——蒂姆）先生。\n09:29:59 1 第二份，即写着 Yvette Wang（王粤）证词录取的那份。\n09:35:07\n\n问：Tim Miltenberger（蒂姆·米尔滕贝格）？\n09:30:01 2\n09:35:11\n\n答：我相信是。我不记得他的姓氏；听起来是对的。\n09:30:05 3\n罗森先生：律师，在你继续提问之前，\n09:35:11\n4\n09:30:07 4 你能否向我说明该文件涉及 30(b )(6) 议题中的哪一项。\n09:35:13\n\n问：好的。你是否曾与 Brown Rudnick（布朗·鲁德尼克）律师事务所的任何律师会面或咨询，为今天的证词录取做准备？\n09:30:09 5\n09:35:17\n6\n09:30:13 哈巴赫先生：嗯，它可能——它可能\n09:35:23\n\n7\n09:30:23 7 涉及其中任意数项，因为该文件是\n09:35:25\n\n答：没有，我没有。\n09:30:24 8 她先前证词录取的笔录；因此将涉及\n09:35:29\n\n问：Golden Spring（New York）Limited 是何时成立的？\n09:30:27 9 多项此类议题。\n09:35:33\n10\n罗森先生：我保留提出异议并指示证人不予回答的权利，\n09:30:40 10\n09:35:36\n11\n答：Golden Spring（New York）Limited 成立于 2015 年。\n09:30:40 11 如果问题超出 30(b )(6) 的范围。\n09:35:38\n12\n09:30:45 12\n09:35:42\n\n问：March 2015 听起来大致正确吗？\n09:30:47 13\n但请继续。\n09:35:43\n\n答：是，在 March。\n09:30:54 14\n哈巴赫先生：明白。\n09:35:46\n\n问：Golden Spring（New York）与 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）（香港金泉）之间是什么关系？\n09 30.59 是否有人在继续之前，无法在其标记证物文件夹中看到该证物？\n09:35:49\n\n16\n09:31:03 16\n09:35:51\n09.3109\n\n答：Golden Spring（New York）Limited 由 China Golden Spring（Hong Kong）（中国金泉（香港）） 17 哈巴赫先生发问：\n09:35:59\n18 100 percent 持有。 09 :31 : 15 18\n问：好的，Wang（王）女士，你能看到吗？\n09:36:00\n\n问：为今天的证词录取之目的，我将把 China Golden Spring（Hong Kong）称作 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）。\n09:31 :21\n19 19\n答：先生，我能看到一个 .pd-——上面写着 .pdf 文件，\n09:36:03\n20\n09:31 :27 20 共四十二页。\n09:36:07\n21\n09:31 :33 21\n问：你收到了吗？\n09:36:09\n\n这样可以吗？\n09:31 :36 22\n答：是这一份吗？\n09:36:11\n\n答：是。\n09:31 :37 23\n收到了。好的。\n09:36:12\n\n问：好的。你是否曾在 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作？\n\n09:31 :39 问：是的，女士。\n\n09:36:13\n25\n09:31 :45 25\n请打开那一份。\n09:36:15\n\n第18页 第20页\n\n答：是。\n09:31 :49 1\n答：（证人照做。）\n09:36:18\n\n问：你记得你何时在那里工作吗？\n09:31 :50\n2 是。\n09:36:18\n\n答：那是在 2016 年，大约几个月。\n09:31:53\n3 问：因此，为在我继续之前唤起你的记忆，\n09:36:19\n\n4\n09:32:05 4 我向你提出的问题涉及\n09:36:22\n\n问：好的。我想向你出示我将标记为证物 1 的文件。\n\n09:32:07 5 你在 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作的日期。\n09:36:25\n6\n09:32:22 6 而且我相信你说大约是\n09:36:31\n\n（证词录取证物编号 1\n09:32:29\n7 7 2016。现在我想向你展示 2018 年的证词录取笔录中，\n09:36:36\n已为识别目的作出标记。）\n09:32:29\n8 8 你被问及此事的部分。让我读一下\n09:36:42\n\n哈巴赫先生：我们稍等片刻，\n09:32:32 9 你的回答，然后再问你一次。\n09:36:49\n10 为等我的同事把它放进去。大家稍等，\n09:32:34 10\n所以我——我能否请你注意笔录的\n09:36:52\n11 马上就会出现。\n09:32:56 11 第三十页。\n09:36:55\n12 抱歉耽搁了。我们正在处理。看起来\n09:33:17 12\n答：（证人照做。）\n09:37:00\n13 有点慢。现在正在上传。\n09:33:30 13\n问：你到了那里时请告诉我。\n09:37:02\n\nRusso（鲁索）女士告诉我它应该已经在\n\n09:34:30 14\n答：第三十页，三、零，先生，对吗？\n09:37:09\n15 那里，但我在标记证物文件夹中没有看到它。\n09:34:33 问：是的，女士。没错。\n09:37:15\n\n16\n09:34:37 而且是——你知道的，小页中的第三十页。\n\n09:37:18\n\n还有其他人吗？\n09:34:38 17\n09:37:21\n\nKaplan（卡普兰）先生：有——有两个文件夹。\n09:34:42\n18 你看到每个小页\n\n09:37:23\n19 看起来它在第二个文件夹中。\n09:34:45 19 都有编号吗？\n09:37:26\n\n哈巴赫先生：好的，收到了。\n09:34:57 答：我在第三十页。\n\n09:37:30\n\n罗森先生：律师——\n09:34:59\n21 21\n你所说的“小页”是什么意思？我不明白。\n09:37:33\n\n哈巴赫先生：看起来——\n09:35:00 22\n09:37:38\n\n罗森先生：——在我们——\n09:35:00 问：嗯，每一页——当然。\n\n09:37:39\n\n哈巴赫先生：在我的电脑上看起来就是这样，\n09:35:02\n25 在——在第二个文件夹里\n09:35:05 我刚发给你的文件的每一页\n\n09:37:41\n25 上都有四页笔录。\n09:37:44\n\n6（第18至21页）\n\n你看到了吗？\n09:37:47 1 我相信，是从 2018 年开始；因此在此之前，我不认为\n09:40:44\n\n答：是。\n09:37:48\n2 2 我为 Golden Spring（New York）工作。严格说来，\n09:40:52\n\n问：好的。因此，那些就是我所指的页码。第三十页第十行，\n09:37:48 3 我为 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作，并且——这\n09:40:56\n4 你被问了一个问题，内容如下：\n09:37:52 4 包括 2016 年那段时间；我回顾时，因为\n09:41:01\n5\n09:38:03 5 我回顾 2015——2016。2016 年对我而言是在\n09:41:06\n“问题：那么，你在 2015 年搬到香港，并于 September of2015 开始为 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作了吗？”\n09:38:05\n6 6 香港长期连续居住的一段时期，\n09:41:12\n09:38:07\n7 7 因此除此之外，我在\n09:41:16\n\n09:38:13 8 香港和美国之间往返。\n09:41:20\n\n而你的回答是：\n09:38:18 问：好的。所以我认为我明白你的意思，但\n09:41:22\n10\n“回答：是。”\n09:38:19\n10 我想确认一下。\n09:41:25\n\n你在那里看到这些了吗？\n09:38:21\n11 大约在 2015 年，你开始\n09:41:28\n\n答：先生，哪一页？是第三十页，但是\n\n09:38:23 12 为 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作，而且你为\n09:41:33\n13 有四个——四个小页页码。 13 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作至 2018 年的某个时候，\n09:38:26 09:41:40\n\n问：为了——\n\n09:38:31 14 此后你开始为 Golden Spring\n09:41:46\n\n答：我不确定是哪一页。\n09:38:32\n15 15 （New York）工作。\n09:41:49\n\n问：对。\n09:38:34 我说得对吗？\n\n09:41:49\n\n答：是第 113 页，还是 14、15 或 16 页？你说的是哪一页？\n\n09:38:35 答：我正式开始为\n09:41:53\n18\n09:38:39 18 Golden Spring（New York）工作是从 2018 年开始，是的。你\n09:41:57\n\n问：我明白。我明白你的困惑。\n09:38:41 19 在这一点上是正确的。\n09:42:03\n\n当我提到这份笔录的页码时，\n\n09:38:44 20\n问：好的。在那之前，你为\n09:42:04\n21 我只是在说这些页面——小页的页码。\n09:38:46 21 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作，对吗？\n09:42:10\n22\n09:38:51 22\n答：我相信那更像是一种混合情况，因为我\n09:42:14\n\n答：哦。\n09:38:53\n23 23 为 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作，同时\n09:42:20\n\n问：好的？\n09:38:54 24 也为 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生在中国的家族企业工作；\n而且我知道这很令人困惑。抱歉。\n\n09:38:57\n第22页 25 所以，这就是我提到我在 2016 年在香港的原因。那是一段——正如我所说，\n09:42:29\n\n答：好的。让我回去找一下。\n09:38:59 我在 2016 年在香港，那是——如我所说，09 :42 :33\n问：是。回到小页的第三十页。\n\n09:39:01 2 对我而言在香港连续居住并为香港工作的\n09·42 ·42\n3 页。\n09:39:04 3 一段时期。\n09:42:46\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n09:39:06 09:42:49\n4 这就是我的——这就是我的陈述。\n是。\n09:39:14\n5 5\n问：在你为 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作期间，你当时是否实际在香港？\n09:42:51\n我现在在小页的第三十页。\n\n09:39:14\n6 6\n09:42:55\n7\n09:39:17 7\n问：好的。抱歉造成困惑。\n09:39:17\n8 8\n答：并非一直如此。\n09:43:03\n\n所以看第三十页第十行，\n\n09:39:19 9\n问：好的。你何时搬到\n09:43:05\n10\n09:39:22 10 美国？\n09:43:11\n11 你会在那里看到一个关于你何时搬到香港为 Golden Spring\n09:39:26 11\n09:43:11\n答：先生，你所说的“搬”是什么意思？\n12 （Hong Kong）工作的提问。\n09:39:30 问：你第一次来到美国是在什么时候？\n09:43:17\n\n你看到了吗？\n09:39:31\n13 09:43:22\n13 不如这样问？\n\n答：是。\n09:39:35 答：那是很多年前。\n09:43:26\n\n我看到了这个。\n09:39:53\n15 问：你是否在为 Golden Spring（Hong Kong）工作的期间来到美国？\n09:43:28\n\n问：好的。因此我要问你的问题是——\n\n09:39:55 16\n09:43:34\n17 首先，我们只聚焦于日期。\n09:40:00 09:43:37\n\n答：是。\n\n好的？读完这一页后，这是否影响你对自己何时开始为 Golden Spring（香港）工作的判断？\n\n答：回到这一页，我的回答是，我的意思是，是的。我于2015年搬到香港，之后在那里工作。我曾前往——在美国。但如果你有我完整的 Golden Spring（纽约）公司记录，我正式开始在 Golden Spring 工作……\n\n在我为 Golden Spring（香港）工作期间，我也曾前往美国。\n\n问：好的。是什么时候？\n\n答：哦，我记不起来了。应该是在2015年至2017年或2018年之间。我记不起来了。\n\n问：在该期间你来到美国时，你是否返回过中国？\n\n（第22—25页）\n\nROSEN律师（罗森律师）：反对。律师，请你说明这与30(b)(6)议题中的哪一项有关，并就你在这里的提问方向作出一些解释。\n\nHARBACH律师（哈巴赫律师）：好的。当然。\n\n我实际上只是想了解该证人与其所代表公司之间关系的基本背景。这非常基础。我想弄清楚她何时工作、在哪里工作，以及为谁工作。仅此而已。这有助于说明她作为30(b)(6)证人的胜任能力，并为其后续证言提供——提供背景。\n\nROSEN律师：我——坦率地说，我看不出她的旅行计划与此有何关系。\n\n并且，我现在将指示证人不要回答有关其旅行以及其在不同时间身处何地的问题。如果你想询问其具体职责、她履行了什么职责以及何时履行，我对此没有异议。\n\nHARBACH律师：而且你——你将反对任何关于她在履行这些职责时实际所在地的问题？这是我的理解吗？\n\nROSEN律师：你——你的问题远远超出了这一范围。如果你想问她具体职责以及她在哪里，那么我们可以在该问题出现时再处理。但你在询问一般旅行计划。你在询问她——她为其他公司所做的工作。她是 Golden Spring（纽约）的30(b)(6)证人，问题应当围绕该公司提出。\n\nHARBACH律师提问：\n\n问：王女士（Ms. Wang），你为 Golden Spring（香港）工作时，实际身处何地？\n\n答：你所说的“实际身处何地”是什么意思？\n\n我的意思是，例如住在酒店还是住在——我的意思是，我不明白，先生。\n\n问：你为 Golden Spring（香港）工作时身处哪个国家？\n\n答：我在香港，而且我——我曾在美国旅行。我曾在英国旅行。我的意思是，我仍然不明白你所说的“实际身处何地”是什么意思，但那些是我去过的地方。\n\n问：后来你是否有一次——搬到美国永久工作？\n\n答：先生，你所说的“永久”是什么意思？\n\n问：你搬家了吗？\n\n答：永久——\n\n问：你搬家了吗？你知道我说“搬家”是什么意思吗？\n\n答：知道。\n\n问：好的。后来你是否有一次为了工作搬到美国？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：是什么时候？\n\n答：那是在我开始担任 Golden Spring（纽约）的高管和董事时。\n\n问：那是什么时候？\n\n答：那是在2018年初、2017年末。我记不清了。应该是2018年初。\n\n问：好的。我将向你出示另一份文件。\n\nHARBACH律师：我们将把这一份称为2号。\n\n（证言笔录证物2号已标记供识别。）\n\nHARBACH律师提问：\n\n问：王女士，你看到文件夹中的证物2了吗？\n\n答：看到了。\n\n问：好的。它也应当是一份.pdf文件。请打开它。\n\n第26页\n\n答：（证人照办。）\n\n是的，我打开了。\n\n问：好的。现在，就这一份文件，我要请你翻到——好的——第49页。\n\n答：（证人照办。）\n\n问：当你翻到第49页时告诉我。\n\n答：是的，我已经翻到了。\n\n问：好的。看第5行，向你提出的问题是：\n\n“问：你是什么时候搬到纽约，开始为 Guo（郭）家族工作？”\n\n你的回答是：\n\n“答：那是一个我永远不会忘记的日期。那是2015年4月23日。”\n\n你看到那里了吗？\n\n答：是的，我看到了。\n\nHARBACH律师：好的。为记录起见，这份证言笔录——更正。\n\n为记录起见，该证言是在2019年5月作出的，距今不足三年。\n\nHARBACH律师提问：\n\n问：因此，你于2015年4月搬到纽约，开始为 Guo（郭）家族工作，这准确吗？\n\n第27页\n\n答：如我所说，英语不是我的母语。你说“搬家”时，我的理解现在比两、三——三、四年前更好了，那是正确的。我离开了中国。我来到纽约——我先来到纽约。然后我回到香港。\n\n因此，关于为 Guo（郭）家族工作，我一直将其称为我的——我的老板——例如，Golden Spring 的所有人，即 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生——Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o——那就是同一个 Guo（郭）家族。\n\n问：那么，你是否于2015年4月开始在纽约为 Guo（郭）家族工作？这是正确还是不正确？\n\n答：我从2000——2008年末开始为 Guo（郭）家族工作。也就是说，例如——\n\n问：是的。让我——让我打断你，并再次提出我的问题，因为你可能误解了。\n\n你是否于2015年4月开始在纽约为 Guo（郭）家族工作？\n\n答：开始为 Guo（郭）家族工作。我的意思是，再次说明，我不记得多年前的这个问题。如我所说——\n\n问：不。\n\n你——你——你作证称，那是一个你永远不会忘记的日期；所以这就是我对这一点稍作追问的原因。\n\n第30页\n\n我的问题是：你何时开始在纽约为 Guo（郭）家族工作？这里的笔录似乎表明，那是在2015年4月，我在问你这是否准确。\n\n这准确吗？不准确吗？还是你不知道？\n\n答：2015年4月23日。那是我永远不会忘记的日期，因为我离开了中国。我从未——我从未能够回去。\n\n好的？\n\n所以那是准确的。当时我回答这个问题时，我相信我当时没有得到任何口译员帮助；因此，该问题现在看起来是在问，我何时搬到纽约，开始为 Guo（郭）家族工作？当时没有翻译，我并不完全理解这个问题；所以如果你问我何时开始为 Guo（郭）家族工作，我可以告诉你，我从2008年开始——我的职业生涯从2008年开始，但我在中国境外开始为 Guo（郭）家族工作，是从2015年开始。\n\n这是我现在正确且真实的回答。\n\n问：那是在纽约市，对吗？\n\n答：从纽约和香港开始。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：我的意思是，当时郭强先生在纽约和香港两地。我现在看不出有什么问题。我说过我在纽约和香港工作——从纽约开始，然后回到香港，因为我原本需要跟随郭强先生，如果这对你来说有道理的话，先生。\n\n问：嗯，我只是想指出，我并未暗示存在任何问题。我只是想了解所发生事实；所以这是我的下一个问题。\n\n你何时开始在 Golden Spring（纽约）工作？\n\n答：我相信我已回答了你的问题，先生，关于 Golden Spring（纽约）。那是在我被任命为 Golden Spring（纽约）的高管和董事时开始的——\n\n问：什么时候？\n\n答：2018年。\n\n问：你记得2018年的什么时候吗？\n\n答：2018年春季。\n\n问：好的。让我们回到证物1。王女士，当你打开证物1后，请告诉我。\n\n答：（证人照办。）\n\n是的，我在这里。\n\n问：好的。再次说明页码，我说的是小页码。请你翻到第35页。\n\n第32页\n\n答：（证人照办。）\n\n请告诉我——\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：——你翻到那里时。\n\n答：是的，我在这里。\n\n问：好的。请看证物1第35页第10行。\n\n答：（证人照办。）\n\n问：问题写道：\n\n“问：你说你于2018年2月来 Golden Spring（纽约）工作？”\n\n你的回答是：\n\n“答：是。”\n\n现在，我在这里唯一关注的是，2018年2月听起来是否像你开始在 Golden Spring（纽约）工作的正确日期。\n\n答：先生，我回答的是2018年春季。我的意思是——\n\n问：我——我并未暗示任何其他事情，只是在问2月是否正确。\n\n这听起来大致正确吗？\n\n答：我不记得了。2018年春季。你可以查阅 Golden Spring（纽约）的公司记录簿。那里应该有明确记载。\n\n问：在你开始在那里工作时，Golden Spring（纽约）是否雇有司机？\n\n答：先生，我今天是证人——以我的……\n\n4.（纽约）您于2018年春季开始在那里工作时？\n\n问：您的意思是，当时是否有人在 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作？\n\n答：郭强先生本人。\n\n问：好的。他的职务是什么？\n\n答：他是 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）的董事之一。\n\n问：还有其他人吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n在我被任命时，只有我和他本人。\n\n问：那么，当时没有其他在 Golden Spring 工作的雇员吗？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：您是否记得，当时是否有一名为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作的司机？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n第34页 第36页\n\n问：让我们再看一下证物1。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：这次请翻到第四十页。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：您到了那里时请告诉我。\n\n答：是的，我到了。\n\n问：好的。请看第七行。您说：\n\n“答：我记得有一名司机。我见过一名司机，一位韩国男士，是的。”\n\n然后有一个问题：\n\n“问：您相信他在2018年2月之前是 Golden Spring 的雇员吗？”\n\n您的回答是：\n\n“答：2018年2月，当时是他告诉我的。”\n\n“问：您遇到了一名司机，他告诉您他是 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）的雇员吗？”\n\n“答：是。”\n\n然后您说，是他到机场接您的。\n\n这是否唤起了您对 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）在您开始在那里工作时是否有一名司机的回忆？\n\n问：我的理解是关于破产。我是说，这是我的任务——这是我多少年前的证词？三年、四年前？\n\n我的意思是，我当时可能记得，因为那是一个相对更近的日期。如您所说，我是在2018年10月接受证言的。现在已经过去将近三年半、四年了。我是说，过了这么多年，我不可能记得。但既然我在这里关于2018年的证词这样说，那是可能的。这唤起了我的回忆。没错。但这并不意味着在三年半、四年之后，我仍然应当记得所有细节；对吗？我在这里是就一次破产案接受证言。\n\n我这样说对吗？\n\n问：嗯，您有一部分是对的，那就是我向您出示该信息，是为了看它是否有助于唤起您的记忆。\n\n而且，实际上，问题就是，阅读这份笔录是否有助于唤起您关于在您开始时 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）是否有一名司机工作的记忆。\n\n答：我——\n\n罗斯恩先生（ROSEN）：此时，我将指示证人不要再回答任何此类问题。\n\n这是一次在破产案件中就批准一项债务人占有融资安排所进行的有争议事项证言录取。到目前为止，在30(b)(6)议题清单中，这些问题几乎没有涉及任何议题——或许稍微涉及所有权结构。您已经询问了高级职员、雇员和董事，但迄今没有任何问题涉及DIP贷款。\n\n因此，我会要求您，如果您将进行钓鱼式调查，或试图在此延续其他法院的诉讼，我将不得不指示证人不要回答。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）问：\n\n问：王女士（Ms. Wang），刚才您说，阅读这份证言笔录确实有助于您回忆。\n\n因此，我的问题是，在您开始在那里工作时，Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）是否有一名司机工作？\n\n答：如我2018年的证词所说，这是可能的。先生，您很有帮助。\n\n问：好的。Mileson Kwok（郭美生先生）在您开始为 Golden Spring 工作时住在纽约吗？\n\n第38页 第40页\n\n罗斯恩先生（ROSEN）：反对。我指示证人不要回答。\n\n这与30(b)(6)证言录取议题完全没有任何关联，一点也没有。其目的严格是为了重新进行诉讼，或者延续其他法院的诉讼，或者骚扰本证人。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）问：\n\n问：王女士，您知道 Mileson Kwok（郭美生先生）是谁吗？\n\n答：先生，请您再拼写一次这个名字，可以吗？\n\n问：可以。\n\nM-i-l-e-s-o-n Kwok，K-w-o-k。\n\n您知道那是谁吗？\n\n答：先生，我不知道您指的是谁。\n\n问：好的。您提到过，在您成为董事时，有人是 Golden Spring 的董事。\n\n那个人叫什么名字？\n\n答：如果您指的是我被任命时的同一名董事郭强先生，他的名字是 Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o。他的英文名是 Mileson，M-i-l-e-s-o-n，姓氏是 G-u-o，先生，如果这对您有帮助。\n\n这是否是您所指的人？\n\n问：是——是的。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：而且——\n\n答：我从未听说过有人叫 Mileson Kwok。我的意思是，我从未听说过这个人。\n\n问：好的。Mileson Guo（郭美生）与 Wengui Guo（郭文贵）有什么关系？其拼写为 W-e-n-g-u-i G-u-o。\n\n如果您知道，他们之间有什么关系，若有的话？\n\n答：郭强先生——Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o——是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的儿子。\n\n问：而那是 H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k；对吗？\n\n答：您说得对，先生。\n\n问：为便于阅读这份笔录的每个人理解，我们能否将 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的儿子称为 Mileson？您可以吗？\n\n答：不可以，先生。\n\n我更愿意继续称其为郭强先生。原因是，再次说明，英语不是我的母语。我不想发音某个可能被在场所有人误解的名称，如果我可以的话。\n\n问：完全没问题。\n\n答：谢谢。\n\n问：那么我们就继续称他为郭强先生。\n\n答：谢谢。\n\n问：好的。您刚才作证称，他是债务人 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）的儿子；对吗？\n\n答：您说得对，先生。是的。\n\n问：所以我的问题是，郭强在您开始为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作时住在纽约吗？\n\n答：先生，您说“住在纽约”是什么意思？我的意思是，我不明白。在那里出行？我在那里见过他，是的。我不明白您所说的“住在纽约”是什么意思。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）：Sunny，或许您可以帮我。我的英文问题是：郭强先生在您开始为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作时是否住在纽约？\n\n您能为我翻译一下吗？\n\n口译员（THE INTERPRETER）：（翻译问题。）\n\n证人（THE WITNESS，经口译员）：我于2018年正式开始为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作。我不记得当时郭强先生是否住在纽约。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）问：\n\n问：在您开始为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作前后，您是否曾亲自在纽约见过他？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：您是否曾亲自在纽约见过郭强先生？\n\n答：是的，我见过。\n\n问：最后一次是什么时候？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：在过去一年内？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：在过去五年内？\n\n答：是的。\n\n这是可能的。\n\n问：在您开始为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作时，Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生住在纽约吗？\n\n罗斯恩先生（ROSEN）：反对。这是同一个问题。\n\n我认为——律师，您能否向我解释一下该问题的相关性。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）：嗯，如您所知，Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生是债务人，而且在我们看来，探究 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生与 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）的关系，当然属于适当议题的范围；Golden Spring 是其在该DIP贷款中的推定贷款人。因此，我从询问郭文贵先生在证人开始为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作时住在哪里开始。这就是相关性。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）问：\n\n问：王女士，答案是什么？\n\n罗斯恩先生（ROSEN）：我将指示证人不要回答这个问题。这是——我看不出披露当事人的去向和当前所在地与DIP贷款融资之间有什么关联。这只是——这只是骚扰。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）：那么，Scott，您是在指示证人不要回答吗？\n\n罗斯恩先生（ROSEN）：是的。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）：好的。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）问：\n\n问：王女士，当您开始在 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）工作时，您的职务是什么？\n\n答：我当时——我是——我当时是总裁、秘书，我相信也是财务主管和董事。\n\n问：那么，为确认我理解正确：总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事；对吗？\n\n第42页 第44页\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您制作了这份文件吗？\n\n答：我不记得。这应当是由——我不记得。\n\n问：请给我一点时间。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）：各位，抱歉耽搁了一下，但希望我刚才为我们节省了一点时间。\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）问：\n\n问：我将请您先放下证物3，我稍后会再回到该证物。\n\n可以吗？\n\n答：可以。\n\n问：当——当您在 Golden Spring（香港金泉公司）工作时，您有任何职务吗？\n\n答：我不记得。那是很多年前的事。\n\n问：您在 Golden Spring（香港金泉公司）的职责是什么？\n\n罗斯恩先生（ROSEN）：反对。这——您能否指出，在30(b)(6)的哪个议题中，Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）的公司证人回答此问题会是适当的？\n\n哈巴赫先生（HARBACH）：再次说明，我是通过她先前的经验及其与她当前职务的关系，探究她作为 Golden Spring（纽约金泉公司）代表作证的资格。\n\n问：我要给您看一份文件——我们就把它称为第3号。\n\n（第3号证言笔录证物已标记供识别。）\n\nHARBACH先生：请等它显示出来。有人告诉我它应该会在那里。我有这份文件。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：Wang女士（王女士），您有第3号吗？\n\n答：有，先生。我有。\n\n问：好的。很好。打开那一份。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：请告诉我您是否认得这份文件。\n\n答：认得。\n\n问：好的。这是一份您协助制作并随一份宣誓书提交的文件，不是吗？\n\n答：先生，您说我制作是什么意思？\n\n问：那么，我撤回这个问题。您说您认得这份文件。这是什么？\n\n答：这是一份董事和高级管理人员名册。\n\nROSEN先生：我保留该异议。\n\n不过，您可以回答这个问题。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：Wang女士，问题是您在Golden Spring (Hong Kong)（香港金泉）担任何种职责？\n\n答：我接受该公司所有人Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的指示，并为他工作。\n\n问：您做什么——做什么工作？\n\n答：做他要求我做的任务。我不记得了。那是很多年前的事了。\n\n问：您——您——您不记得您的任务是什么？\n\n答：相当多样化。\n\n问：好的。您是否记得，在您为Golden Spring (Hong Kong)（香港金泉）工作期间，您是否为Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生做过任何工作？\n\n答：对不起。先生，您的问题是什么？\n\n问：在您为Golden Spring (Hong Kong)（香港金泉）工作期间，您是否为Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生做过任何工作？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：是谁任命您担任Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的总裁？\n\n答：我是由Qiang Guo（郭强）先生任命的。\n\n问：当他任命您担任这些职位时，他告诉您您的职责会是什么？\n\n答：我被任命后，他——他要求我以总管的身份经营——管理Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉），他的公司。\n\n问：请告诉我“以总管的身份”是什么意思。\n\n答：我的意思是，作为该公司的所有人，他本人要求我做的任何任务、任何指派，我都会为他做。\n\n问：当您担任Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）的总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事职务时，您是否具有任何金融专业知识？\n\n答：先生，您所说的金融专业知识是什么意思？\n\n问：让我们回到证物1。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：更正一下。对不起。证物2。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：第47页。实际上，您可能需要往前看一点，到第46页。您到了那里时告诉我。\n\n答：我在第46页。\n\n问：好的。第46页底部有一段回答，其开头是——这是对向您出示某份证物的问题所作的回答。在您的回答过程中，该回答延续至第47页，您说，其中包括：\n\n“回答：我是Golden Spring的管理人员。这不是我的选择，因为中国共产党几乎绑架了我和公司之间的所有同事；因此，就我的背景而言，我没有金融专业知识。我没有美国房地产专业知识。”\n\n而您的回答还在继续。\n\n但我刚刚读出的这两句话是我对您的问题所关注的内容，因为我问您的问题是：当您担任Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事职务时，您是否具有任何金融专业知识？\n\n答案是什么？\n\n答：这些证言笔录发生在哪一年，先生？2018年还是’19年？\n\n第47页\n\nROSEN先生：我刚才读出的记录不是证言笔录。那是在法庭上的证言，时间是在2019年5月。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：但这些——这些看起来是您自己的话，因此这就是我提出该问题的原因。\n\n答：所以，回到2019年，我的作证——我的证言是正确的。我的意思是，整个——Qiang Guo（郭强）先生、他的家族企业，包括他的雇员，都受到了迫害。他们要么被逮捕、被绑架，要么失踪。当时我是幸存者之一。那是正确的。\n\n然后，在我回到2019年的证言中，我说我没有——那是——我是谦虚的；对吗？所以那是我的证言——证——证言。现在到了2022年，我的意思是，我可以在三年内学到很多；对吗？\n\n问：当然。\n\n答：所以——\n\n问：当然。\n\n答：——那并不意味着我现在没有任何——\n\n问：当然。\n\n答：——可以在这起破产案中作证的内容，您知道的，证言笔录。\n\n问：是的。我明白——三年已经过去了。我的问题不是关于今天。\n\n我的问题是关于您被任命为Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）的总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事的那一天。我问的是那一天。\n\n我的问题是，截至那一天，您是否具有任何金融专业知识？\n\n答：先生，您在问三年前的何种金融专业知识？\n\n问：那些是您自己的话，Wang女士。您说：“我没有金融专业知识。”我不知道您是什么意思。那会是个好问题，但那是您所说的话；所以这就是我在向您提问时使用这些措辞的原因。这是一个简单的问题。\n\n我所问的只是，在您于Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）担任所有这些职务时，您是否具有任何金融专业知识？是或否？\n\n答：当我说我没有——当我说我没有时，正如我再次重复的，那是我们的文化——我们的文化，中国文化。我谦虚地说我没有专业知识。\n\n问：我明白。\n\n答：英语不是我的母语。如果这是您所寻找的答案，先生，我的意思并不是说我对金融一无所知。\n\n问：首先，我所寻找的只是事实。\n\n第二，我并没有要求您谦虚或骄傲。我只是要求您诚实。\n\n答：我是诚实的。\n\n问：同样地，我的意思是，您在法庭作证时是在宣誓后作证，我认为当时的预期也是您要诚实。\n\n答：我是诚实的。\n\n问：好的。因此，我那天不在场。我所拥有的只是记录。我只是——我是在对您坦诚。我的问题之所以提出，是因为我看到您说您没有任何金融专业知识。\n\n所以，我想问题是，如果您在2019年只是谦虚，您是否是说，事实上，当您被任命担任Golden Spring（纽约金泉）的所有那些职位时，您具有金融专业知识？这是否是您想表达的意思？\n\n答：我并不想表达任何意思。我的证言——回到2019年，那是我的证言，我坚持该证言。那是——真实且准确的信息，先生。至于现在，您在三年后所寻找的是什么，我不明白，我会尽力帮助您。\n\n问：好的。记录中的下一句话同样如此，该句话说：\n\n“我没有美国房地产专业知识。”\n\n您在2019年说出这些话时，这是真的吗？\n\n答：这是正确的。我不是房地产经纪人。我不是持牌房地产经纪人；对吗？那是正确的。\n\n问：好的。因此，至少截至2019年5月，您没有美国房地产专业知识——\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：——正确吗？\n\n答：当时我根本没有执照。\n\n问：下一个问题。\n\n您作为Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）总裁，是否确实担任Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生及其家人利益的管理人员？\n\nROSEN先生：异议。要求作出法律结论。\n\n您可以回答该问题。\n\n证人：我需要口译员帮助我。我不明白您的问题，先生。\n\nHARBACH先生：好的。但在我们——在我们继续之前——实际上，让——让我们——Sunny，如果您不介意，我会再次提出该问题。而且我——我很抱歉用您的名字称呼您。这不专业。抱歉，Johnston女士（约翰斯顿女士）。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：Wang女士（王女士），问题是，您以Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）总裁的身份，是否确实担任Kwok先生——Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生及其家人利益的管理人员？\n\nROSEN先生：我重申异议。\n\n您可以回答该问题。\n\nHARBACH先生：（口译该问题。）\n\n核对口译员：核对口译员听到了Kwok先生和Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生及其家人。\n\nHARBACH先生：这是正确的。\n\n这就是问题。\n\n核对口译员：是的。\n\n但不是Wengui Guo（郭文贵）；对吗？\n\nHARBACH先生：那——\n\n口译员：那是他的普通话姓名，Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）。普通话是Wengui Guo（郭文贵）。\n\n核对口译员：但是，我的意思是，律师说的是Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）。\n\nHARBACH先生：是的。\n\n律师之所以说Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵），是因为证人说她是这样认识债务人的。我之前问过她是否知道Wengui Guo（郭文贵）这个名字，她说她认识他时用的名字是Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）；所以这就是我使用该名字的原因。\n\n口译员：是的。\n\nHARBACH先生：但我们现在可以澄清这一点——我们可以现在澄清，Wilkinson女士（威尔金森女士）。\n\n核对口译员：好的。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：Wang女士（王女士），此后在提及Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的父亲时，您希望使用什么名字？\n\n答：Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生。\n\n问：很好。\n\n答：那是债务人；对吗？那是债务人的名字。\n\n我说得对吗？\n\n问：你是对的。那是正确的。\n\n答：就按这个来吧，是的。嗯哼。\n\n问：那么，您希望 Johnston（约翰斯顿女士）用中文为您重复一遍这个问题吗，女士？\n\n答：是的，请。\n\n问：好的。\n\n口译员：Harbach（哈巴赫先生），请您再重复一遍这个问题，可以吗？\n\nHARBACH先生：当然。没问题。\n\n口译员：让您知道一下，口译员不会说粤语；所以我只会重新——我只会按照您发音的方式说出该姓名，而不会说普通话姓名。\n\nHARBACH先生：好的。那——那没问题。而且，显然，这两种语言我都不会说；所以我将依靠各位。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：那么，问题如下。您作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）的总裁，您是否确实担任 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生及其家人利益的管理人？\n\nROSEN（罗森先生）：异议。你可以回答。\n\n证人：（通过口译员）嗯，首先，我不知道您所说的“管理人”一词是什么意思。其次，我为 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生工作。\n\nHARBACH先生：约翰斯顿女士，这就是答复的全部内容吗？\n\n口译员：是的，就是全部内容。\n\nHARBACH先生：好的。谢谢。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：现在请看第4号证物。\n\n（第4号证言证物被标记以供识别。）\n\n证人：（证人照做。）\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：好的，我已经打开了，Wang（王女士）。希望您也打开了。\n\n答：（用英语）是。我在这里。\n\n问：很好。请打开第4号证物。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：我首先想请您翻到最后一页。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：您到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：第4号证物右上角的签名是您的吗？\n\n答：抱歉，先生。您的意思是第4号证物，对吗？\n\n问：是，先生——抱歉。是，女士。\n\n答：好的。我打开错了。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：那么让我返回去。您说的第4号证物，是董事和高级职员登记册吗？\n\n问：不。不。不。\n\n答：好的。那是——\n\n问：这是写有“证物”的那一份，旁边有数字四。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：那么，您打开该文件后，第一页写着“Yan Ping Wang（王艳萍）的宣誓书”。如果您拿到的是正确文件，请告诉我。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：很好。现在请您翻到最后一页。那是第三页。\n\n答：（证人照做。）是。\n\n问：我要问您的是，第4号证物第三页右上角的签名是您的吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。现在让我们回到第一页。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：您可以看到，这是您签署的一份宣誓书，并且于 May 16th of 2018 向 Supreme Court of the State of New York（纽约州最高法院）提交。您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。现在，我还注意到第三页——抱歉一直让您来回翻页。您能否翻到第三页？\n\n答：最后一页，对吗？\n\n问：是的，女士。\n\n答：（证人照做。）是。我到了。\n\n问：您会看到，在公证人的签名上方，注明该文件于 May 15th of 2018 宣誓。您在那里看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。现在请您回到第一页。\n\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n问：您到了之后告诉我。\n\n答：是。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：好的。您的证言记录——抱歉。这份宣誓书的第一句话写道：\n\n“我是 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）的总裁，并且以该身份担任本案中以 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）为名被起诉的被告及其家人利益的管理人。”\n\n之后还有数个别名。句号。\n\n您看到了那句话吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：那么，我请您说明，担任 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）先生及其家人利益的管理人是什么意思，因为这些是您的措辞。\n\n答：这也是由律师起草的；因此，据我理解，管理人，这些措辞——再说一次，我完全不是母语人士——意思是我为 Golden Spring 工作，并接受 Golden Spring 所有人的指示，完成 Golden Spring 要求我做的工作和任务；这就是我在这里的意思。\n\n问：您一生中签过多少份宣誓书，您认为？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：超过五份吗？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：超过二十五份吗？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：也许超过五十份？\n\n答：先生，您现在问的是我一生中的情况。我不记得。这就是我的答复。\n\n问：您知道——什么是宣誓书吗？\n\n答：您说我知不知道宣誓书是什么意思，是什么意思？\n\n问：您知道什么是宣誓书吗？您知道这个词是什么意思吗？\n\n答：我不明白您的问题。\n\nHARBACH先生：约翰斯顿女士，您能翻译一下吗？您知道什么是宣誓书吗？\n\n口译员：（翻译问题。）\n\n证人：所以我不明白您的问题。我在那份文件中所做的一切，是我为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）工作。我不是母语人士。我当然也不是法律人士，对吗？所以，就像，我只是要在这里，然后，把我所知范围内、按我能力所及的信息——\n\n问：在您说完之前告诉我。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：——就是我能说的。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：我不知道您在找什么。我的意思是，如果您是在字典里找词，我不知道您在找什么。\n\n问：我是在问您是否知道什么是宣誓书。\n\n答：宣誓书是一份法律文件。\n\n问：好的。您是否理解，宣誓书是一份法律文件，其中一个人提供经宣誓的证言？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。而且您刚才告诉我——实际上，我想公平一些。您——您不知道您过去可能做过多少份宣誓书，对吗？\n\n答：我不记得。比如，我为什么要记得有多少份？我是说——\n\n问：我并不是——我并不是暗示——\n\n答：我又不在律师事务所工作，对吗？\n\n问：我不是——\n\n答：那么我为什么要记得？\n\n问：我并不是在暗示您应当或不应当记得。我所问的只是，您是否知道您一生中准备过多少份宣誓书。而且我理解您的回答是，您不知道；对吗？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：好的。没关系。这就是我所问的全部。您已经告诉我，您理解的宣誓书是一份法律文件，其中一个人提供经宣誓的证言；对吗？\n\n答：您向我读的这句话，是我在 2018 签署的。现在到了 April 2020 [原文如此]，当然我不可能记得那件事，像是，差不多四年前。\n\n问：但是——\n\n答：但是我确实知道，那是一份法律文件。我在那份文件中提供了我所有真实、诚实的信息。这就是我现在正在作的证言。\n\n问：好的。因此，当您在 May of 2018 签署这份宣誓书时，它在您签署时是真实的；对吗？\n\n答：我签署时，我提供了我所有真实的信息。\n\n问：我们正在看的、作为第4号证物的这份宣誓书，在您签署并宣誓时，它是真实的吗？\n\n答：我在 2018 签署了这份宣誓书。那是我所提供的、我尽我所知最好的且真实的信息。\n\n问：这是“是”吗？\n\n答：先生，我已经回答了您的问题。\n\n问：那么，我要再问一次。我认为您可能已经回答了，但为了确保我们明确，我想再问一次。这份宣誓书——即第4号证物——在您签署时是真实的吗？\n\n答：您说在我签署的时候是什么意思？我的意思是，我在 2018 签署它时认为它是真实的。\n\n问：对。而且——问题在这里。就在几分钟前，当我问您第4号证物的第一句话时，您说这份文件是由律师准备的，而且英语不是您的第一语言，而且——因此我才问这些问题，以便我能够了解，这一页上写的内容是否是您的真实证言。\n\n答：所以——\n\n问：我所能做的只是问您——让我把问题问完。我不知道您脑子里在想什么。所有——\n\n问：在您签署这份宣誓书时，英语不是您的母语，对吗？\n\n答：英语不是我的母语，是的。我在 2018 签署了宣誓书。那是我尽我所知的真实信息。当时，我在上面签署自己的名字时，是的。我现在正在作证，以解释并让您知道所有这些“是”和“否”；截至现在，那是我的真实证言，是的。这些都是我的“是”或“否”的回答，先生。\n\n问：在您签署第4号证物时，您理解它吗？\n\n答：理解什么？\n\n问：您理解您正在签署什么吗？\n\n答：这份宣誓书。\n\n问：您能够阅读它并理解它所说的内容吗？\n\n答：我不明白您的问题。什么——您是在问我对 2018 的回忆吗？\n\n问：您——\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：您不记得您签署这份宣誓书时是否理解它所说的内容吗？\n\n答：那是四年前，先生。我不记得当时的细节。\n\n问：您是否习惯于在不理解宣誓书所说内容时，经宣誓签署宣誓书——我撤——撤回。\n\nHARBACH先生：Scott（斯科特），你不必提出异议。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：您是否记得这份宣誓书是否曾为您翻译？\n\n答：我不记得。再说一次，像是，它是三年或\n\n8 我所能做的就是提问。您告诉我，您是在 10:40:36\n\n8 四年前。我不记得了。10:43:11\n\n9 签署了这份文件。您告诉我，您 10:40:39\n\n9 问：您最后一次签署宣誓书大约是在什么时候？10:43:16\n\n10 理解这是一份宣誓书。您告诉我您 10:40:41\n\n10\n\n11 对宣誓书的理解为何。10:40:45 ROSEN先生（罗森）：异议。10:43:28\n\n12 因此，我现在所问的只是，10:40:50\n\n12 我们——我们确实得继续往下进行了，David。10:43:30\n\n13 在您签署这份特定的宣誓书时，其内容是否真实，10:40:53\n\n13 这——10:43:34\n\n14 。这是一个可以回答“是”“否”“不知道”或“不记得”的问题。10:40:59\n\n14 HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：听着，Scott。这显然不是针对个人。我当然非常希望继续往下进行，但我只是试图让证人确认她三年前所宣誓的内容。10:43:35\n\n15 记得的问题。10:41:06\n\n15 10:43:38\n\n16 答：这是几个问题，先生。我不能 10:41:11\n\n16 10:43:40\n\n17 只回答一个“是”或一个“否”。10:41:14\n\n17 10:43:44\n\n18 问：您当然可以。这是一个单一问题。答案 10:41:17 ROSEN先生：好吧。这与今天的 Rule 30(b)(6) 证言主题有何关联？10:43:51\n\n19 可以是“是”，可以是“否”，也可以是 10:41:21\n\n19 10:43:53\n\n20 “不知道”或“不记得”。10:41:25 HARBACH先生：哦，因为这完全属于她作为 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）总裁的工作职责范围。这百分之百属于我们正在讨论的范围。她已经告诉我们她所担任的全部职务，而我正在探究 10:43:56\n\n21 答：该宣誓书——10:41:32\n\n21 10:43:58\n\n22 问：需要我再问一遍这个问题吗 10:41:33\n\n22 10:44:02\n\n23 吗？10:41:36\n\n23 她的工作职责；我们已经多次读到过这一点，而现在 10:44:05\n\n24 答：我于 2018 年签署的该宣誓书，10:41:36\n\n24 她不想回答。她不想确认这一点；所以我不再争辩，但这显然相关。显然相关。10:44:09\n\n17（第 62–65 页）\n\n1 她的工作职责为何，我们已经读过好几遍了，现在 10:44:16\n\n1 在 Golden Spring (New York)，您担任 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生及其家人利益事项的管理人？11:01:57\n\n2 她不想回答。她不想确认这一点；所以我不再争辩，但这 10:44:20\n\n2 答：是。11:02:01\n\n3 显然相关。显然相关。10:44:23\n\n3 正如我的宣誓书中的措辞所述，是。11:02:07\n\n4 10:44:27\n\n4 11:02:13\n\n5 您可以指示她不要回答。您可以 10:44:30\n\n5 问：您是否记得，您所称的担任 Ho Wan Kwok 先生及其家人利益事项的管理人是什么意思？11:02:16\n\n6 指示她不要回答任何提及 10:44:33\n\n6 11:02:45\n\n7 Ho Wan Kwok 的问题，如果您愿意。但我会一直留在这里，10:44:36\n\n7 11:02:49\n\n8 直到我了解这名证人 10:44:39\n\n8 答：这份宣誓书中的措辞是由律师起草的，而且据我理解，11:02:51\n\n9 在签署这份宣誓书时心里所想的内容。10:44:42\n\n9 11:02:57\n\n10 ROSEN先生：嗯，我认为您已经——您 10:44:44\n\n10 Golden Spring——根据 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的指示，11:03:03\n\n11 已经在记录中基本确立，您 10:44:46\n\n11 Golden Spring，比如，支付 Ho Wan Kwok 先生的生活开支等等；所以那是我的理解。11:03:10\n\n12 所追求的内容与这笔 DIP 10:44:50\n\n12 11:03:17\n\n13 贷款毫无关系。10:44:52\n\n13 11:03:21\n\n14 因此，我将指示证人不要 10:44:52 问：那是您对自己职责的理解吗？11:03:22\n\n15 回答这个问题。10:44:55\n\n15 因为那正是我的问题所涉及的内容。11:03:27\n\n16 HARBACH先生：好的。我认为我们应当休息 10:44:56 答：我作为 Golden Spring 总裁的职责，还是\n\n11:03:31\n\n17 一小会儿，因为除其他事项外，我需要 10:44:59\n\n17 管理人的职责？11:03:35\n\n18 去洗手间。10:45:01\n\n18 问：嗯，您已经陈述，作为总裁，您 11:03:36\n\n19 那么，录像员先生，我们可以休息十 10:45:03\n\n19 曾担任 Ho Wan Kwok 先生利益事项的管理人。11:03:42\n\n20 分钟吗。10:45:06\n\n20 11:03:46\n\n21 录像员：现在停止记录。10:45:06\n\n21 因此，我问的是，您刚才所描述的内容是否是您在 2018 年 5 月的职责。11:03:50\n\n22 10:45:08\n\n22 11:03:54\n\n23 时间为 10:45。10:45:08\n\n23 答：我是 Golden Spring 的总裁。我接受 Qiang Guo 先生的指示，并担任其 11:04:01\n\n24 （短暂休庭。）10:45:10\n\n24 管理人——其父亲的管理人。11:04:05\n\n25 录像员：现恢复 11:00:21\n\n第 66 页 25 11:04:09\n\n1 记录。11:00:23\n\n1 问：从您开始在 Golden Spring 工作时起，这是否属实？11:04:13\n\n2 时间为 11:00。11:00:23\n\n2 11:04:17\n\n3 HARBACH先生询问：11:00:31\n\n3 答：哦，先生，从一开始——您又是在问时间，对吗？11:04:21\n\n4 问：Wang（王）女士，休息前我正就证物 4 询问您，该证物是一份您 11:00:35\n\n4 11:04:25\n\n5 于 2018 年 5 月签署的宣誓书。11:00:37\n\n5 问：嗯，我问的是，您刚才 11:04:27\n\n6 11:00:43\n\n6 所描述的您作为管理人的职责，是否 11:04:31\n\n7 HARBACH先生：Scott，我承认，我不 11:00:48\n\n7 自始即是如此，即从您最初 11:04:38\n\n8 记得我们结束时是否是您 11:00:51\n\n8 开始在 Golden Spring (New York) 工作时起？11:04:40\n\n9 指示证人不要回答我的问题——11:00:54\n\n9 11:04:42\n\n10 不再回答任何有关此事的问题。让我——让我 11:01:00\n\n10 答：我开始为 Golden Spring 11:04:42\n\n11 在您回答之前先说一下，如果您 11:01:04\n\n11 (New York) 工作时，我确实接受 Qiang Guo 先生的指示，去——去履行我所说的、担任其 11:04:52\n\n12 允许我再问一两个问题，我就 11:01:07\n\n12 父亲管理人的职责。11:05:00\n\n13 继续往下进行。11:01:13\n\n13 问：那么那应当是在 11:05:00\n\n14 ROSEN先生：我对此表示感谢，是的。11:01:14\n\n14 2018 年春季，即您开始为 Golden Spring 11:05:04\n\n15 请——我此时将指示证人 11:01:18\n\n15 (New York) 工作时；对吗？11:05:07\n\n16 回答该问题。11:01:22\n\n16 答：正确，先生。11:05:10\n\n17 HARBACH先生：好的。谢谢。11:01:24\n\n17 问：在那段时间，即 2018 年春季，您与 11:05:11\n\n18 HARBACH先生询问：11:01:25\n\n18 Qiang Guo 先生沟通的频率如何？11:05:16\n\n19 问：那么，Wang 女士，证物 4 是否仍在您面前？11:01:25\n\n19 2018 年？11:05:22\n\n20 11:01:30\n\n20 答：我不记得了，但我相信我们——我们 11:05:24\n\n21 答：证物 4？是的，先生。是。11:01:32\n\n21 在需要交谈时就交谈。11:05:29\n\n22 问：好的。那么再次提醒您，这份 11:01:38\n\n22 问：好的。一天一次？11:05:30\n\n23 宣誓书是在 2018 年 5 月签署的。11:01:41\n\n23 答：我不记得。11:05:35\n\n24 我的问题是，在 11:01:45\n\n24 问：好的。您是否记得是否每周与 11:05:36\n\n25 2018 年 5 月，作为 Golden Spring 的总裁，11:01:51\n\n第 67 页 25 他交谈一次？11:05:39\n\n18（第 66–69 页）\n\n1 答：我不记得。正如我所说，我们只是在 11:05:43\n\n1 2018 年，在纽约市的 Golden Spring (New York) 工作时，您是否与 11:09:15\n\n2 需要时交谈。如果，您知道，我们需要交谈，我们就交谈。11:05:47\n\n2 Ho Wan Kwok 先生居住在同一地点？11:09:21\n\n3 问：好的。11:05:51\n\n3 11:09:24\n\n4 答：我不会，比如，计算，是的。11:05:52\n\n4 答：我住在纽约。11:09:33\n\n5 问：不。我理解。11:05:54\n\n5 问：您是否居住——再次说明，我不是在谈论 11:09:34\n\n6 而且我并不是要您作出精确的 11:05:56\n\n6 现在。11:09:41\n\n7 计算。我只是想了解您与他交谈的频率。11:05:58\n\n7 我谈论的是 2018 年，当您开始 11:09:41\n\n8 11:06:02\n\n8 在 Golden Spring (New York) 工作时，您是否与 Ho Wan Kwok 先生居住在同一住所？11:09:46\n\n9 当您与他交谈时，即与 11:06:03\n\n9 11:09:51\n\n10 Qiang Guo 先生交谈时，您是通过电话交谈？当面交谈？11:06:06\n\n10 答：先生，您所说的住所是什么意思？您是指——11:10:00\n\n11 两者兼有？11:06:12\n\n11 11:10:03\n\n12 答：两者都有。11:06:15\n\n12 问：一栋房子。11:10:03\n\n13 问：好的。请稍等一下。抱歉耽搁了。11:06:22\n\n13 答：是——11:10:04\n\n14 11:06:58\n\n14 问：是一栋房子？一套公寓？这并不重要。11:10:05\n\n15 为履行您所描述的职责，您在 2018 年春季与 11:07:01\n\n15 11:10:09\n\n16 Ho Wan Kwok 先生沟通的频率如何？11:07:07\n\n16 您是否与 Ho Wan Kwok 先生居住在同一住所？11:10:09\n\n17 11:07:13\n\n17 11:10:12\n\n18 答：我不记得。11:07:17\n\n18 答：没有。11:10:12\n\n19 问：您是否曾与他沟通过？11:07:18\n\n19 问：您是否曾去过——撤回。11:10:19\n\n20 答：是。11:07:23\n\n20 您是否曾居住在 Sherry-Netherland（雪莉-内德兰酒店）十八层的公寓中？11:10:22\n\n21 我们确实沟通过。11:07:26\n\n21 11:10:29\n\n22 问：那是当面沟通吗？11:07:27\n\n22 答：我去那里拜访过，先生。11:10:33\n\n23 答：是。11:07:31\n\n23 问：可以。11:10:36\n\n24 当面。11:07:33\n\n24 11:10:36\n\n我问的是您是否曾在那里居住。\n\n25 问：好的。频率如何？11:07:33\n\n25 11:10:40\n\n第 70 页 第 72 页\n\n1 答：我不记得。11:07:37 答：您所说的居住是什么意思？比如说，作为\n\n11:10:40\n\n2 问：每周超过一次？11:07:40\n\n2 我的——我的家？没有。11:10:45\n\n3 答：先生，您问的是追溯至 2018 年，即 11:07:45\n\n3 问：好的。您是否曾在那里停留——11:10:47\n\n4 我开始为 Golden Spring 工作的时候？11:07:51\n\n4 HARBACH先生：而且，Scott，这是我的最后一个问题。11:10:52\n\n5 问：是。是的，女士。11:07:54\n\n5 11:10:54\n\n6 答：哦，我不记得。11:07:57\n\n6 HARBACH先生询问：11:10:55\n\n7 问：好的。让我看看。11:07:58\n\n7 问：您是否曾在那里停留超过 11:10:55\n\n8 哦，谢谢。HARBACH先生：11:08:26\n\n8 几周？11:10:58\n\n9 HARBACH先生询问：11:08:26\n\n9 答：我不记得。11:10:59\n\n10 问：我的同事提醒我，我原本想问这个 11:08:28\n\n10 问：好的。我们现在能转到——重新转到 11:11:00\n\n11 问题。11:08:32\n\n11 证物 1 吗？11:11:20\n\n12 当您开始在纽约市的 Golden Spring 11:08:32\n\n12 答：（证人照做。）11:11:22\n\n13 (New York) 工作时，您居住在哪里？11:08:37\n\n13 问：找到后请告诉我，Wang 女士。11:11:28\n\n14 我并非指——确切地址，但您居住在哪里？11:08:41\n\n14 答：是的，我找到了。11:11:35\n\n15 11:08:45\n\n15 问：好的。为帮助您确认文件，封面日期为 11:11:36\n\n16 ROSEN先生：异议。出于安全 11:08:47\n\n16 October 11th, 2018，该日期 11:11:44\n\n17 原因，Wang 女士不希望提供 11:08:51\n\n17 即本次证言的日期。11:11:49\n\n18 居住地址。11:08:54\n\n18 好吗？11:11:52\n\n19 您指的是城市，还是——如城市这样概括的信息，还是您指的是地址？11:08:57\n\n19 答：是。11:11:54\n\n20 11:09:00\n\n20 问：好的。那么那大约是—— 11:11:54\n\n21 HARBACH先生：我——我会尽量以避免这些顾虑的方式 11:09:05\n\n21 我不知道——在您开始为 Golden Spring 工作后六个月，11:12:00\n\n22 提问，Scott。11:09:07\n\n22 (New York)？11:12:03\n\n23 ROSEN先生：谢谢。11:09:11\n\n23 答：并且——是。大致如此。11:12:11\n\n25 24 HARBACH先生询问：11:09:12\n\n问：Wang 女士，当您开始在 11:09:12\n\n24 问：您说您是在春季开始工作的 11:12:13\n\n25 2018 年；所以大约六个月。11:12:16\n\n19（第 70–73 页）\n\n1 这样说公平吗？11:12:19\n\n1 是准确的。11:14:41\n\n2 答：是。\n11: 12:20 2 问：好的。\n11:14:42\n\n3 问：好的。那么请翻到第六十页。\n11:12:21 3 答：在我被\n11:14:43\n\n4 答：（证人照做。）\n11: 12:32 11:14:45\n\n4 更正之后，我现在的证言也是准确的，先生。\n5 问：再一次，看一下这些小页码。\n11: 12:33 5 问：我明白。\n11:14:48\n\n6 到了请告诉我。\n11: 12:45 6 所以，这一更正涉及他的\n11: 14:49\n\n7 答：是。\n11: 12:50 7 姓名；对吗？\n11:14:51\n\n8 问：好的。第六十页最上方有\n11: 12:50 8 答：是。\n11:14:52\n\n9 一个问题的末尾部分，然后是一个从第二行\n11: 12:54 9 郭强（Qiang Guo）的姓名。\n11: 14:53\n\n10 开始的问题：\n11: 12:57 10 问：好的。\n11:14:55\n\n11 “问：您认识 Mileson Kwok（郭美森）吗？”\n11 :13:00 11 答：这就是我坚持称呼他为\n11:14:56\n\n12 您的回答是：\n11:13:04 12 郭强先生（Mr. Qiang Guo）的原因；对吗？\n11:15:00\n\n13 “答：是。”\n11:13:05 13 所以那是准确的——您知道，他的\n11:15:00\n\n14 问题：\n11:13:06 14 正式姓名。\n11: 15:04\n\n15 “问：那是郭先生的儿子吗？\n11: 13:06 15 问：明白。\n11:15:04\n\n16 “答：是。\n11:13:09 16 答：这样对我来说更好，是。\n11: 15:05\n\n17 “问：您是否曾经在\n11:13:11 17 HARBACH 先生（Mr. Harbach）：为打断书记员致歉。我会尽量做得更好。\n11:15:07\n\n18 本人面前见过他？\n11:13:12 18\n11: 15:10\n\n19 “答：是。\n11:13:13 19 HARBACH 先生发问：\n11:15:13\n\n20 “问：他在\n11:13:14 20 问：证言笔录中的下一个问题\n11:15:13\n\n21 Golden Spring（金泉）是否担任任何职务？\n11:13:17 21 是：\n11:15:16\n\n22 “答：我不知道。\n11:13: 19 22 “问：那是郭先生的儿子吗？\n11:15:17\n\n23 “问：您从未就任何 Golden Spring 业务\n11:13:22 23 “答：是。”\n11:15:20\n\n24 与他有过互动吗？\n11: 13:24 24 所以不存在究竟是\n11:15:22\n\n25 “答：没有。”\n11:13:28\n\n第74页 25 Mileson Kwok 还是 Qiang Guo 的问题。\n11: 15:25\n\n1 我读得对吗？\n11: 13:36\n\n答：是。\n11:13:38 我们说的是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的儿子；\n11:15:27\n\n2 对吗？\n11:15:34\n\n3 问：您能解释一下——嗯，首先，这是否\n11:13:39 3 答：对。\n11:15:34\n\n4 属实？\n11: 13:46 4 问：Ho Wan Kwok 先生有且仅有一个\n11:15:35\n\n5 答：嗯——\n11:13:52 5 儿子；对吗？\n11:15:40\n\n6 问：我们逐一过一遍——我们逐一过一遍，\n11:13:53 6 答：对。\n11:15:42\n\n7 以便完全明确。第一个\n11: 13:57 7 问：好的。下一个问题：\n11:15:43\n\n8 问题：\n11: 14:01 8 “问：您是否曾经见过他”——\n11:15:47\n\n9 “问：您认识 Mileson Kwong 吗？”\n11: 14:01 9 指我们称为 Qiang Guo 的人。\n11:15:51\n\n10 截至 2018年10月11日，那是否属实，即您\n11:14:09 10 ——“本人？”\n11:15:54\n\n11 认识 Mileson Kwok？那是否属实？\n11:14:11 11 11: 15:56\n\n您的回答是：\n12 答：2018年时我得到了一种错误的印象。\n11:14:13 12 “答：是。”\n11:15:58\n\n13 比如，我当时以为 Mileson 也随 Kwok\n11:14:17 13 截至 2018年10月11日，您曾在本人面前见过 Qiang Guo，\n11:16:01\n\n14 这个姓。原因是——\n11:14:22 14 那是否属实？\n11:16:05\n\n15 问：我——\n11:14:22 15 答：是。\n11:16:07\n\n16 答：——我——\n11:14:24 16 问：好的。下一个问题：\n11:16:07\n\n17 问：——将要——\n11: 14:24 17 “问：他，即 Qiang Guo，是否在 Golden Spring\n11:16:17\n\n18 答：——作证——\n11:14:24 18 担任任何职务？”\n11:16: 17\n\n19 问：——打断。\n11: 14:24 19 您的回答是您不知道。\n11:16:19\n\n20 答：——现在——\n11: 14:25 20 现在，这是在您称您开始在 Golden Spring 工作\n11: 16:22\n\n21 问：是。\n11:14:25 21 六个月之后。在您先前所称与 Qiang Guo 先生\n11: 16:25\n\n22 答：——我被 Qiang Guo 先生更正了。\n11:14:27 22 就您的角色和职责进行交谈之后数月。\n11:16:31\n\n23 他是故意在——我忘了何时——之后更正我的。他\n11: 14:30 23\n11:16:35\n\n24 更正我并说他一直使用\n11: 14:33\n25 Mileson Kwok；所以我在 2018 年当时的证言\n11: 14:37 24 那么，为什么在您开始在\n11: 16:39\n\n25 Golden Spring 工作六个月之后，您说您不知道\n11: 16:42\n\n20（第74—77页）\n\n1 他是否担任任何职务？\n11:16:46 1 经常联系——而且那是——我相信您说过，\n11: 19:47\n\n答：那是在——\n11: 16:50 2 电话联系和本人见面相结合。\n11: 19: 51\n\n问：那不也是——那不也是事实，即您\n11:16:52\n\n3 3 您认为那不算互动吗？\n11: 19:59\n\n4 不知道？\n11:16:55 4\n11 :20:02\n\n答：所以，先生，您先问完问题；这样我\n11:17:02\n\n5 5 答：就 Golden Spring 业务而言与他互动。我的意思是，\n11:20:03\n\n6 才能开始回答，还是您还有更多问题，先生？我会\n11: 17:06 6 他和我这些年来也是朋友；所以您五\n11:20:06\n\n7 等到您问完。\n11: 17:09 7 分钟前问我时，我的意思是，我们确实会在\n11:20:11\n\n问：您——谢谢您等待。\n11: 17: 11 8 需要时见面和交谈。但是回到 2018 年的问题，\n11:20:14\n\n如果您回答我的问题，您可以回答。\n\n11: 17: 12 9 问的是是否就任何\n11:20:18\n\n问题是，截至\n\n11: 17: 15 10 Golden Spring 业务与他有过互动，\n11 :20:23\n\n11 2018年10月11日，您是否确实不知道\n11: 17: 19 11 而我的证言是真实的。\n11:20:26\n\n12 Qiang Guo 是否在 Golden Spring 担任任何职务？这就是\n11: 17:27 12 当时他负责全部 Golden Spring 业务，\n11 :20:29\n\n13 问题。\n11:17:30 13 我知道我是 Golden Spring 的一部分，\n11:20:32\n\n答：回到 2018 年，按照我当时的\n11:17:33 14 但是，确实，比如说，他——他是经营\n11:20:36\n\n15 理解，职务意味着雇员或员工；\n11:17:38 15 该业务的人。\n11:20:39\n\n16 所以当时我不知道他是不是雇员。\n11:17:43 16 问：Wang 女士（Ms. Wang），事实上，您并没有与 Qiang Guo 互动，\n11:20:40\n\n17 但我知道他是老板。他是所有者。\n11: 17:47 17 当然不是在\n11 :20:46\n\n18 我不知道他是否是雇员，因为\n11: 17:51 18 2018 年就 Golden Spring 业务进行互动？这是否属实？\n11:20:51\n\n19 当时他主要处理 Golden Spring 的大部分\n11: 17:54 19\n答：先生，您能重新表述一下问题吗？\n11:20:56\n\n20 工作。我只是在 2018 年按需要与他一起工作和合作。\n11: 18:00 20\n问：事实上，在 2018 年，您\n11 :21:01\n\n21\n11:18:05 21 根本没有与 Qiang Guo 先生就 Golden Spring 所做的任何事情\n11:21:05\n\n问：2018 年您没有说他是老板？在您称开始与他工作\n11: 18:07 22 发生互动？那不是真相吗？\n11:21:10\n\n23 六个月之后，您没有说他是老板，对吗？\n11:18:16 23\n答：我不记得了。时间太久了，\n11:21:15\n\n答：没有人问我他是不是老板，或者\n11: 18: 19 25 而且该证言是在——我不认为\n11 :21:21\n\n第78页 1 不是。\n11:18:24 1 我当时有口译员。\n11:21:25\n\n问：您被问到他是否担任任何职务？\n11:18:24 问：Golden Spring 的老板\n\n11:21:27\n\n答：任何职务，按我回到 2018 年时的理解，\n11: 18:27 3 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉），当您开始在那里工作时，\n11:21:30\n\n4 是作为雇员。\n11: 18:32 4 不是 Qiang Guo，而是 Ho Wan Kwok 先生吗？\n11:21:32\n\n问：好的。下一个问题怎么样：\n11:18:33 5 那是否属实？\n11:21:37\n\n“问：您从未就任何 Golden Spring\n11:18:37\n\n6 6 答：Golden Spring (New York) 的老板一直是\n11:21:38\n\n与他就任何 Golden Spring\n11:18:39 7 Qiang Guo 先生。\n11:21:43\n\n业务有过互动吗？”\n11:18:43\n8 8 问：您长期以来一直是 Ho Wan Kwok 先生的\n11:21:44\n\n那是问您的问题，\n11: 18 :46 9 雇员，这是否属实？\n11:21:53\n\n10 而您给出的回答是：\n11: 18:48 10\n答：我一直为 Qiang Guo 先生、\n11:22:00\n\n“答：没有。”\n11:18:51\n11 11 他本人和他的家人工作。\n11 :22:04\n\n我现在问您的问题是，截至\n11: 18:52\n12 问：是。我——我不是在问\n11:22:06\n\n13 2018年10月11日，是否属实——是否属实，即您\n11:18:55 13 Qiang Guo 先生。我再问一遍。\n11 :22:08\n\n14 没有就任何 Golden Spring 业务与 Qiang Guo 互动？\n11:19:01 14\n您长期以来一直是\n11:22: 13\n\n15 是或不是？\n11: 19:08 15 Ho Wan Kwok 先生的雇员，这是否属实？\n11:22: 18\n\n答：这是正确的回答，因为在 2018 年，\n11: 19: 13\n16 答：我不这么认为。Ho Wan Kwok 先生从未\n11:22:23\n\n17 Qiang Guo 先生是经营\n11: 19: 19 17 支付过我薪酬，也从未给我支付过薪酬，根本没有支付过我薪酬。\n11:22:25\n\n18 Golden Spring 的主要负责人；所以我不理解——再说一次，\n11:19:22 18\n问：他是否告诉您——\n11:22:29\n\n19 英语不是我的母语——“互动”是什么意思。\n11: 19:29 19\n答：所以我一直为 Qiang Guo 先生和他的\n11:22:31\n\n20 我的理解是，当时他在经营公司。\n11:19:33 20 企业工作。\n11:22:35\n\n21 我只是按他的需要为他工作。那是\n11: 19:35 问：Ho Wan Kwok 先生是否曾经告诉您该做什么？\n11:22:35\n\n22 我的理解；所以——这是正确的。\n11: 19:38 22\n11:22:37\n\n问：对。\n11:19:41\n23 答：您说“曾经告诉我该做什么”是什么意思——如果\n11:22:38\n\n而且您五分钟前告诉我，您\n11:19:41 24 他们请我帮忙，我当然会向他提供帮助。\n11 :22:42\n\n25 曾与他有联系——您不记得有多\n11:19:44\n\n第79页 25 经常——\n11:22:45\n\n21（第78—81页）\n\n问：Ho Wan Kwok 先生是否曾经向您\n11 :22:46 问：好的。那么第四十八页有一个从第十二行至\n11 :24:57\n\n2 作出指示？\n11 :22:48 2 第二十三行的长回答。我不会把整段\n11:25:02\n\n3 答：他请求支持和帮助，而我\n11 :22:49 3 全部读出来，但我想请您注意该回答的\n11:25:06\n\n4 一直愿意为他这样做。\n11:22:55\n4 后半部分。其内容是：\n11:25:10\n\n5 问：他是否要求——曾经要求您去买\n11:22:57 5\n11 :25:15\n\n6 咖啡？\n11:23:00 “他们被中国共产党逮捕并投入监狱。\n11 :25: 19\n\n7 答：我不记得。\n11:23:01 中国共产党。还有他的许多\n11:25:22\n\n8 您是什么意思？\n11:23:03 家属，包括他的儿子、\n11:25:26\n\n9 问：您不——您不记得 Ho Wan Kwok\n11 :23:05 女儿、侄女、侄子和他的\n11:25:28\n\n10 先生是否曾要求您去买咖啡？\n11:23:07 嫂子、兄弟，他们全都受到\n11:25:32\n\n11 答：先生，我的意思是，我不记得。就像，\n11 :23: 11 威胁、绑架，并被投入监狱，\n11:25:37\n\n12 我为什么要记得有人让我去买咖啡；\n11 :23:15 毫无理由，直至今日，包括他所有\n11 :25:40\n\n13 对吗？\n11 :23:18 长期雇员，例如\n11 :25:43\n\n14 问：嗯，我——我不知道。也许他已经\n11 :23:19 我。”\n11:25:47\n\n15 要求您去买过数百次咖啡。也许他\n11.23.21 所以您这里说的是 Ho Wan Kwok 先生；\n11:25:50\n\n16 从未这样要求过。我所能做的只是提出问题。\n11:23:25 16 对吗？\n11 :25:56\n\n17 您记得——\n11.23 .28 17\n答：我能从第十二句完整读到\n11:25:58\n\n18 答：我不记得。\n11 :23:28 18 第二十三句吗？\n11:26:04\n\n19 问：——Ho Wan Kwok 先生是否曾要求您\n11 :23:29 19\n问：当然可以。慢慢来，自己读，\n11:26:05\n\n20 去买咖啡？\n11:23:32 20 读完后告诉我。\n11:26:08\n\n21 答：我不记得。\n11:23:34 21\n答：谢谢。\n11:26: 11\n\n22 问：好的。那么为他翻译某些东西怎么样，\n11 :23:34 22\n好的，我读完了，先生。\n11:27:12\n\n23 也就是说为 Ho Wan Kwok 先生？您曾经为他做过\n11:23:37 23\n问：谢谢。\n11:27:15\n\n24 这件事吗？\n11:23:40 24\n我的问题是，您在这个回答中所\n11:27: 15\n\n25 答：是，我做过。\n11 23:41\n\n第82页 25 谈到的人，您称为“他”和“他的”的人\n11 :27: 18\n\n1 问：频率如何？\n11:23:42 1 是 Ho Wan Kwok 先生；对吗？\n11:27:22\n\n2 答：我不记得。\n11:23:44 答：从该措辞来看，当然是。\n\n11:27:28\n3 问：不止一次？\n\n11:23:48 3 这是由——由庭审记录员记录的。\n\n11:27:33\n4 答：是。\n\n11:23:50 4 就是，从该措辞来看，似乎是\n\n11:27:39\n5 不止一次。\n\n11:23:51 5 是的。但我所指的是——我从\n\n11:27:43\n6 问：好的。你最后一次为 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生翻译文件是什么时候？\n\n11:23:52 6 郭氏家族开始说起，并不只是他的直系亲属，\n\n11:27:47\n7\n\n11:23:55 7 而是整个郭氏家族。\n\n11:27:52\n8 答：我不记得。\n\n11:23:57 8\n问：是的。\n\n11:27:53\n9 问：好的。我们来看——\n\n11:24:01 你在线索二中说：\n\n11:27:54\n\n10 HARBACH（哈巴赫）律师：331 是什么？我看不清。那是——\n\n11:24:08 “Kwok（郭文贵）先生，Miles Kwok（郭文贵），他是整个家族的第七个儿子。”\n\n11:27:56\n11\n\n11:24:11\n\n11:28:06\n\n12 HARBACH（哈巴赫）律师询问：\n\n11:24:13 12 你说的是债务人，\n\n11:28:07\n13 问：好的。请看证物 2。\n\n11:24:13 13 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）；对吗？\n\n11:28:10\n14 答：（证人照做。）\n\n11:24:15 14\n答：对。\n\n11:28:12\n15 问：我想问你——你有证物 2 吗，\n\n11:24:23 15\n问：好的。然后你描述了他的所有\n\n11:28:12\n16 王女士？\n\n11:24:26 16 亲属以及发生在他们身上的可怕事情。然后你说，遭遇那些事情的人包括他的所有人，意思是\n\n11:28:16\n17 答：有。\n\n11:24:27 17\n\n11:28:21\n18 问：好的。请你翻到第\n\n11:24:27 18 那些遭遇该等事情的人包括他的所有人，意思是\n\n11:28:29\n19 四十八页。\n\n11:24:32 19 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）先生——他的所有长期雇员，\n\n11:28:34\n20 答：（证人照做。）\n\n11:24:34 20 就像我一样；所以这就是我五分钟前提问的依据。\n\n11:28:41\n21 问：到了那里请告诉我。\n\n11:24:46 21\n\n11:28:49\n22 答：我正在找，先生。四十八页。\n\n11:24:50 22\n你是否确实是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的长期雇员？\n\n11:28:51\n23 问：是，女士。\n\n11:24:53 23 是还是不是？\n\n11:28:55\n\n25 答：是。\n\n11:24:56\n我到了。\n\n11:24:56 24\n答：我是郭氏家族的长期雇员。\n\n11:29:01\n25 家族。我的意思是，我并不清楚地记得这里记录了什么。\n\n11:29:09\n\n22 （第 82 至 85 页）\n\n1 记载在这里的内容。显然，我从未在\n\n11:29:12 所以不是证物 2？你要我回到证物 1，对吗，先生？\n\n11:32:23\n\n2 监狱里。我受到威胁，但我没有被绑架\n\n11:29:17 2\n\n11:32:26\n3 并关进监狱。我认为这仍然应归咎于我当时蹩脚的英语。当我说长期雇员时，\n\n11:29:21 3 问：是，女士。\n\n11:32:29\n4 我的真实——我的意思是郭氏家族。我是\n\n11:29:27 4 答：（证人照做。）\n\n11:32:32\n5 郭氏家族的长期雇员。\n\n11:29:30 5 我到了。\n\n11:32:33\n6\n\n11:29:32 6 问：好的。谢谢。\n\n11:32:34\n7 问：谁？\n\n11:29:36 7 现在，请你在小页面中向前翻到第四十六页。\n\n11:32:35\n8 答：Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生从未亲自雇用我。\n\n11:29:37 8\n\n11:32:38\n9\n\n11:29:43 9 答：（证人照做。）\n\n11:32:42\n10 问：那么，谁——谁——既然你提到了这一点，最初雇用你为\n\n11:29:43 10 是。\n\n11:32:52\n11 郭氏家族工作的人是谁？\n\n11:29:45 11 问：好的。很好。\n\n11:32:53\n12\n\n11:29:49 12 现在，关于“管理人”一词的含义，\n\n11:32:54\n13 答：是一家公司。是一家名为\n\n11:29:51 13 如果你看第四十六页第二十行，\n\n11:32:59\n14 Pangu（盘古）的公司。Beijing Pangu（北京盘古）。\n\n11:29:53 14 你会看到一个问题：\n\n11:33:06\n\n15 问：是。\n\n11:29:58 15 “问：我是在问你是否担任\n\n11:33:11\n16 你受雇为郭氏家族工作时，北京盘古的老板是谁？\n\n11:29:59 16 Kwok（郭文贵）先生的管理人，\n\n11:33:12\n17\n\n11:30:03 17 就其利益而言”——\n\n11:33:17\n18 答：你是说老板，比如所有人吗？\n\n11:30:07 18 那就是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）——就其利益而言。\n\n11:33:18\n19 问：嗯，王女士，你可以按自己的理解赋予“老板”任何含义，但你似乎\n\n11:30:11 19 然后你的回答是：\n\n11:33:22\n20 明白 Qiang Guo（郭强）是 Golden Spring（金泉）的老板；所以请你告诉我。\n\n11:30:14 20 “答：是。”\n\n11:33:24\n21\n\n11:30:17 21 然后有人问你：\n\n11:33:25\n22\n\n11:30:19 22 “问：那是什么意思？”\n\n11:33:27\n23 答：哦，明白。\n\n11:30:21 23 你说：\n\n11:33:30\n24 因此，北京盘古归郭氏\n\n11:30:22 24 “答：翻译，”逗号，\n\n11:33:31\n25 家族所有。\n\n11:30:28 25\n\n11:33:33\n“助理。”\n\n第 86 页 第 88 页\n\n1 问：好的。那么是谁——\n\n11:30:29 1 你看到了吗？\n\n11:33:36\n2 HARBACH（哈巴赫）律师：还有——Scott（斯科特），我不会在这里停留太久，\n\n11:30:32 2 答：看到了。\n\n11:33:37\n3 但这是她提起的。\n\n11:30:35 3 问：现在，你已经告诉我们，你——\n\n11:33:38\n4 HARBACH（哈巴赫）律师询问：\n\n11:30:37 4 你实际上曾为\n\n11:33:41\n5 问：王女士，最开始时——你刚开始为\n\n11:30:38 5 Kwok（郭文贵）先生——Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生做过一些翻译；对吗？\n\n11:33:45\n6 郭氏家族工作时，是谁告诉你\n\n11:30:41 6 答：我为他翻译——曾为他翻译，\n\n11:33:48\n7 你被雇用了？是哪一个人？\n\n11:30:44 7 是的。\n\n11:33:52\n8 答：人力资源部门通知了我，我\n\n11:30:47 9 问：是。\n\n11:33:53\n9 记不得了。那是在 20——2008 年。\n\n11:30:49 而且如果——你也说过——这里还写道，\n\n11:33:53\n10 我记不得了。但人力资源部门通知我，我被雇用了。\n\n11:30:57 10 你是他的助理。\n\n11:34:00\n11\n\n11:31:02 11 这是真的吗？\n\n11:34:01\n12\n\n11:31:06 12 答：我的意思是，我——我曾作证说，我是\n\n11:34:03\n13 问：我要为暂时回到较早的话题而道歉。我会尽力\n\n11:31:07 13 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的利益管理人，并且我依照 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的指示帮助他，包括，\n\n11:34:09\n14 说得清楚而有效率。\n\n11:31:19 14 例如，\n\n11:34:13\n15\n\n11:31:24 15 帮助他翻译，让他理解，包括，\n\n11:34:17\n16 在证物 4 中，也就是你的宣誓书，\n\n11:31:32 16 比如，在他需要时协助他——对吗？——支持他。\n\n11:34:22\n17 你记得我曾问过你几个问题，\n\n11:31:46 17 这并不意味着我有——我有一个叫作\n\n11:34:27\n18 关于担任\n\n11:31:49 18 “助理”的职务；所以，如果那是你要找的答案。\n\n11:34:30\n19 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生利益管理人是什么意思？你跟得上吗？\n\n11:31:52 19 问：那么——\n\n11:34:32\n20 答：是。\n\n11:31:58 20 答：我的意思是，我帮助他理解语言，并且\n\n11:34:33\n21 问：好的。那么我回到这个问题的原因是，我没有向你指出另一件事。\n\n11:31:58 21 按照他儿子的指示，在他需要时支持他。\n\n11:34:36\n22\n\n11:32:02 22\n\n11:34:40\n23 而且那是证物 1；所以你能否翻到\n\n11:32:07 23 问：好的。那么，除了翻译工作之外，\n\n11:34:41\n25 24 证物 1，请。\n\n11:32:15\n答：（证人照做。）\n\n11:32:17 24 当你说“协助”意味着在需要时支持他，这是什么意思？是哪类事情\n\n11:34:43\n25\n\n11:34:47\n\n23 （第 86 至 89 页）\n\n1 你在 2018 年为他做过？\n\n11:34:51 1\n答：我不明白，先生。我的意思是，就职责而言，\n\n11:37:54\n\n2 ROSEN（罗森）律师：异议。你能否——你能否澄清一下，当你使用“你”这个词时，你是指\n\n11:34:57 2 我随时可以。我在这里。我提供支持，依照\n\n11:38:02\n3 Golden Spring（金泉），还是指证人本人？\n\n11:34:59 3 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生要求我做的事情。这就是我\n\n11:38:05\n4\n\n11:35:01 4 对职责的理解。如果你所说的是\n\n11:38:08\n5\n\n11:35:04 5 那种职责，那是一样的，是。\n\n11:38:10\n6 HARBACH（哈巴赫）律师：这很公平，Scott（斯科特）。\n\n11:35:06 6\n问：嗯，我听到你的意思了。\n\n11:38:13\n7 我认为，在——她于\n\n11:35:08 7\n我只是想确认，那就是\n\n11:38:15\n8 2018 年接受证言录取时，她既是以\n\n11:35:11 8 按照你的说法，作为\n\n11:38:19\n9 Golden Spring（金泉）代表的身份，也以个人身份作证；\n\n11:35:16 9 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉（纽约）有限公司）总裁，你应当做的工作，\n\n11:38:23\n10 因此她必须为我澄清这一点。\n\n11:35:20 10 是为 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）先生翻译，并照料他的\n\n11:38:30\n11\n\n11:35:24 11 个人需要；对吗？这就是你的意思吗？\n\n11:38:34\n12 ROSEN（罗森）律师：你可以回答。\n\n11:35:26 12\n\n11:38:38\n13 证人：我不记得。\n\n11:35:29 13\nROSEN（罗森）律师：异议。\n\n11:38:39\n14 HARBACH（哈巴赫）律师询问：\n\n11:35:29 14\n你——你可以回答。\n\n11:38:40\n15 问：好的。无论如何，你作为 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生利益管理人的角色，\n\n11:35:31 证人：让我再重复一遍。\n\n11:38:44\n\n16 根据你的说法，是你以\n\n11:35:35 我作为 Golden Spring (New York)（金泉（纽约））总裁的职责，\n\n11:38:46\n\n17 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉（纽约）有限公司）总裁身份履行的；\n\n11:35:42 17 是依照公司所有人的\n\n11:38:49\n18 对吗？\n\n11:35:46 18 要求和需要开展工作，包括协助其父亲，\n\n11:38:55\n19 答：2018 年，Qiang Guo（郭强）先生要求我提供帮助；\n\n11:35:52 19 为其父亲翻译，并且这包括我今天在这里\n\n11:38:58\n20 这是真的。\n\n11:35:57 20 接受证言录取；对吗？\n\n11:39:02\n21 问：好的。嗯，我想确保你理解我的问题，因为 Rosen（罗森）律师\n\n11:36:01 以及签署宣誓书。包括很多事情，我的意思是，如果我可以说的话，不仅仅是\n\n11:39:05\n\n22 有帮助地提出了职责问题，我想确保我们弄清楚\n\n11:36:04 22 如你刚才试图把我描述成助理或翻译，\n\n11:39:08\n23 这一点。\n\n11:36:07 23 如果那对你有帮助的话，先生。\n\n11:39:12\n24\n\n11:36:11 24\n\n11:39:17\n25 好的？\n\n11:36:12 25 我会\n\n第 90 页 第 92 页\n\n1 因此，请记住我们讨论的是\n\n11:36:13 1 HARBACH（哈巴赫）律师询问：\n\n11:39:18\n2 担任 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生利益管理人\n\n11:36:18 2\n问：那么，翻译和助理，再次说明，\n\n11:39:18\n3 是什么意思——这正是我们正在讨论的内容——我将请你回到证物 1——\n\n11:36:23 3 王女士，那是你说的，不是我说的。我只是\n\n11:39:22\n4 更正。证物 4——抱歉。\n\n11:36:26 4 从一份笔录中向你读出来。因此，我所做的一切\n\n11:39:25\n5\n\n11:36:31 5 都是试图探究你作为\n\n11:39:28\n6 答：那么是证物 4，先生；对吗？我们说的是哪一份？\n\n11:36:36 11:39:31\n7 四号？\n\n11:36:41 6 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉（纽约）有限公司）总裁的工作是什么。而你\n\n7 已经——已经向我们解释了其中一部分，\n\n11:39:34\n8 问：是，女士。\n\n9 11:36:42\n四号。\n\n11:36:46 8 我想。并且我只是试图理解\n\n11:39:38\n9 “助理”是什么意思。\n\n11:39:45\n\n10 答：我到了。\n\n11:36:48 10\n除了担任翻译之外，你还能告诉我\n\n11:39:53\n11 问：而且这份宣誓书，你已经告诉我们你签署并宣誓其真实且\n\n11:36:49\n12\n\n11:36:53 11 更多有关这方面的情况吗？\n\n11:39:57\n\n答：关于什么，先生？\n\n11:39:58\n\n13 正确，写明你是以\n\n11:36:57 问：关于你说你是\n\n11:39:59\n\n14 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生及其家人利益管理人的身份，\n\n11:37:02 14 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）的助理时是什么意思。\n\n11:40:04\n15 作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉（纽约）有限公司）总裁履行的；\n\n11:37:07 答：那是我——那是——那不是，\n\n11:40:09\n16 对吗？\n\n11:37:14 16 我的意思是，用我的语言来说。我的意思是，我仍然不——\n\n11:40:13\n17 答：我是由 Golden Spring (New York)（金泉（纽约））雇用的，并且\n\n11:37:23 17 我没有英语作为母语，当我那样称呼时，\n\n11:40:19\n18 我接受 Golden Spring (New York)（金泉（纽约））所有人的指示。而且我可以支持他的\n\n11:37:28 18 所表达的意思是我提供了那种支持和服务。\n\n11:40:23\n19 家人，包括他的父亲。这就是\n\n11:37:32 19 我没有一个叫作翻译或助理的职务。\n\n11:40:26\n20 对我而言此处“职责”所指的意思。\n\n11:37:36 20 显然——\n\n11:40:31\n21\n\n11:37:40 问：哪一项——\n\n11:40:31\n\n22 问：而且——而且根据你的说法，你刚才描述的内容，\n\n11:37:43 22\n答：——我没有，是的；所以我提供了那种\n\n11:40:32\n23 是你以\n\n11:37:45 23 支持。\n\n11:40:33\n24 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉（纽约）有限公司）总裁身份履行的；对吗？\n\n11:37:50\n25\n\n11:37:54 24\n问：好的。\n\n11:40:33\n答：这就是我的意思，如果那\n\n11:40:34\n24 （第 90 至 93 页）\n\n1 有帮助的话。\n\n11:40:37 1 生活方式——我的意思是，照顾他的父亲。\n\n11:43:10\n\n问：明白了。\n\n11:40:37 2\n问：他何时给你该指示？\n\n11:43:13\n告诉我——现在，你刚才的意思是\n\n3 11:40:38\n答：哦，我不记得。我应该——从很久以前起\n\n11:43:16\n\n就在你刚才说“支持”的时候。 11:40:40\n\n我的意思是，对我而言，这很自然，所以…… 11:40:42\n\n问：好吧，我不会就这是否自然与你争论。 11:40:51\n\n问：好的。 11:40:53\n\n答：这是按照 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的指示； 11:40:53\n\n问：你的证言——我认为这不是你所说的意思，但我还是要问，因为从你的话中可以作出合理推断。 11:40:58\n\n问：你今天的证言是否是为了支持 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生？ 11:41:08\n\n罗森律师：反对。 11:41:11\n\n你可以回答。 11:41:14\n\n证人：我是作证——我今天是就一项破产事项作证，比如说——我相信主题是 DIP loan；对吗？ 11:41:15\n\n哈巴赫律师询问： 11:41:27\n\n问：我很愿意谈到那里，但我们——我们——好吧，让我再问一次。 11:41:27\n\n我明白，你并不是——你是说“assistant”不是你的职务。 11:41:32\n\n我明白这一点。我明白你的职务是我现在已经数次列举过的所有那些职务，任职于 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）。我还明白，按照你的说法，作为总裁，你担任郭文贵先生及其家人利益的管理人。 11:41:39\n\n在一次证言录取中，有人问过你担任管理人意味着什么，而你说是翻译和助理。现在，我们都知道翻译是什么意思，这很清楚。你为郭先生提供该项服务，这也是清楚的。 11:42:04\n\n王女士，我试图了解的只是你还为他做了什么，而到目前为止，你唯一说过的是在这次证言录取中作证。 11:42:24\n\n还有其他事情吗？ 11:42:33\n\n答：有。 11:42:37\n\n罗森律师：反对。 11:42:38\n\n你可以回答。 11:42:40\n\n证人：有。 11:42:42\n\n哈巴赫律师询问： 11:42:43\n\n问：好的。还有什么？ 11:42:44\n\n答：例如，显然郭强先生指示 Golden Spring 支付他父亲的，例如食物、衣服，以及，例如包括这个——他们称之为…… 11:42:47\n\n很久以前。我的意思是，儿子照顾父亲。 11:43:22\n\n问：除翻译之外，还有什么？ 11:43:25\n\n问：我唯一的问题是，你刚才说郭强先生给了你你刚刚复述的指示，对吗？ 11:43:28\n\n那么，我的问题是何时？你说很久以前？多久以前？ 11:43:45\n\n答：我不记得。 11:43:51\n\n问：一个月以前以上？ 11:43:52\n\n答：应当比一个月以前更久。 11:43:57\n\n问：好的。在你于 2018 年 10 月接受证言录取时，他是否已经给过你该指示？ 11:44:00\n\n答：我不记得。 11:44:08\n\n问：在你于 2019 年 5 月出庭作证时，他是否已经给过你该指示？ 11:44:08\n\n答：我不记得。 11:44:17\n\n问：这难道不可能吗？ 11:44:18\n\n答：我不记得。 11:44:23\n\n问：那么，他是否在 2020 年的某个时候给过你该指示？ 11:44:24\n\n答：我确实不记得。 11:44:35\n\n问：如你刚才所说，Golden Spring (New York) 为郭先生的生活方式支付费用已有多久？ 11:44:40\n\n答：多久？我相信是自我被任命以来。我的意思是，我记不清楚。我不记得。但是，时间很久。 11:45:03\n\n问：好的。你刚才说了两件事。你说你相信是自你被任命以来，又说你不记得；所以我——我必须要求你告诉我到底是哪一种。 11:45:19\n\n答：我不记得。我不应该推测或猜测，因为在我被任命时，如我几分钟前所作的证言，那是真的，郭强先生正在经营和管理他的业务；因此，我将答案更正为“我不记得”，因为我并非亲自支付该等费用。我不记得答案。 11:45:33\n\n问：明白。 11:46:00\n\n问：作为 Golden Spring 的总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事，你在确保郭先生——郭文贵先生的生活方式需求得到支付方面承担什么角色？ 11:46:01\n\n答：对不起，先生。 11:46:31\n\n您可以重复一下您的问题吗？ 11:46:33\n\n（第 94—97 页）\n\n问：作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事，你在确保郭文贵先生的生活方式需求得到支付方面承担什么角色？ 11:46:35\n\n答：我确保的是什么角色？我的意思是，对不起。 11:46:55\n\n那——那是您所问的问题，对吗？ 11:47:05\n\n问：是的，女士。 11:47:08\n\n我会再用英语问一次，然后我们可能需要使用 Johnston（约翰斯顿）女士。 11:47:08\n\n答：好的，请。 11:47:15\n\n我也有同感。 11:47:16\n\n问：没关系。我再试一次。 11:47:17\n\n你已经陈述，郭强先生指示你照顾他的父亲，或多或少是这个意思。你不记得他究竟何时给了你该指示，但那是很久以前。 11:47:21\n\n到目前为止，我理解得对吗？ 11:47:41\n\n答：对。 11:47:43\n\n问：好的。我现在问的是，作为总裁，以及所有那些其他职务的人员，任职于 Golden Spring (New York) Limited，你做了什么来确保郭文贵先生及其生活方式需求得到了照顾？你明白这个问题吗？ 11:47:47\n\n答：我相信明白。 11:48:27\n\n问：好的。那么答案是什么？ 11:48:29\n\n答：例如，我会就资金与郭强先生沟通，包括这次证言录取。他负责处理该请求，然后确保资金在其中，以照顾他的父亲。 11:48:34\n\n问：我们马上会谈资金。但你刚才提到生活方式需求，例如衣服、食物、交通——基本生活需要。 11:49:04\n\n作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的总裁，你是否参与为郭文贵先生支付或提供这些事项？ 11:49:29\n\n答：是。 11:49:45\n\n问：请告诉我你做了什么。 11:49:46\n\n答：例如，我会审阅账单，并核实——如有任何需要核实的事项——并处理衣物付款。 11:49:52\n\n问：什么类型的账单？ 11:50:08\n\n答：例如衣服。比如食物——杂货食品。 11:50:11\n\n问：这些是信用卡账单，还是直接来自供应商的收据，或者是什么？ 11:50:19\n\n答：我相信两者都有。 11:50:26\n\n问：好的。 11:50:28\n\n答：是混合的。 11:50:29\n\n第 98 页\n\n问：你从谁那里收到这些？ 11:50:31\n\n答：先生，您说的是哪一张账单？ 11:50:33\n\n问：上述任何一种。 11:50:38\n\n答：我的意思是，其中一些通过卡走账。其中一些我们从——供应商那里收到。 11:50:41\n\n问：好的。你直接从郭文贵先生那里收到多少该等账单？ 11:50:50\n\n答：直接？我不记得。 11:50:59\n\n问：对于你审阅以照顾郭文贵先生生活方式的任何开支，你如何知道或核实，如你所说，它们中任何一项实际上是他的？ 11:51:06\n\n答：我的意思是，郭强先生要求 Golden Spring 照顾他的父母双方；所以，我的意思是，只有在明确这是他父亲的衣服时，我们显然会据此核实。比如—— 11:51:25\n\n问：还有—— 11:51:51\n\n答：——杂货账单，我认为更像是母亲和其他人的混合账单。 11:51:52\n\n问：好的。第一，你如何知道所购买的是郭文贵先生的衣服？你如何核实？ 11:51:57\n\n答：我直接与供应商核实。 11:52:07\n\n问：还有——嗯。 11:52:13\n\n所以，你——你会询问供应商，该衣物是否由郭文贵先生购买？ 11:52:19\n\n答：是。因为男装和女装是相当明显的；对吗？ 11:52:27\n\n但是，我确实需要核实，是的。 11:52:35\n\n问：是的。我明白男装和女装的区别。 11:52:38\n\n那么，是否任何——任何——任何明显属于男装的收费，你就假定是郭文贵先生的；而任何属于女装的收费，你就假定是其妻子的？ 11:52:44\n\n答：我不假定。我的意思是，我必须核实，因为我需要向公司所有人清楚地报告资金——财务情况；对吗？ 11:53:04\n\n问：当然。 11:53:18\n\n答：——所以我会核实。 11:53:19\n\n问：当然。 11:53:20\n\n答：所以我会核实。 11:53:21\n\n问：让我们——你是否作为该程序的一部分审阅任何信用卡账单？ 11:53:22\n\n答：有时。 11:53:29\n\n问：好的。当你审——当你审阅一张信用卡账单时，假设其中有一笔收费，呃，我不知道——酒店住宿。我们就以此为例。 11:53:30\n\n第 99 页\n\n问：你如何核实是谁作出了该笔收费？ 11:53:48\n\n答：比如酒店，您是这个意思，对吗？举个例子。 11:53:54\n\n问：我只是以此为例。 11:54:02\n\n答：如果是酒店，我们 Golden Spring 显然会打电话给酒店核实。 11:54:05\n\n问：核实该笔收费确实作出了吗？ 11:54:10\n\n答：是。 11:54:14\n\n那属于内部——我的意思是——审计的一部分。这——这是正常的。 11:54:14\n\n问：好的。那么，查明谁使用了信用卡又如何？你会怎么做？ 11:54:19\n\n答：我不明白您的问题，先生。 11:54:26\n\n谁使用信用卡？您的意思是郭文贵先生，他如何使用信用卡；对吗？ 11:54:34\n\n问：当然。 11:54:40\n\n那——那——那是一种可能性，但我不知道。我是在问你。 11:54:41\n\n答：不是。 11:54:45\n\n他不使用 Golden Spring 的信用卡。 11:54:45\n\n问：Golden Spring 有信用卡吗？ 11:54:48\n\n答：我们有借记卡。 11:54:51\n\n问：好的。Golden Spring 有任何信用卡吗？ 11:54:53\n\n第 102 页\n\n哈巴赫律师：当然。当然。 11:56:19\n\n抱歉，我是在故作俏皮。 11:56:21\n\n哈巴赫律师询问： 11:56:22\n\n问：王女士，你能否给出一个更精确的日期范围，说明郭文贵先生的妻子在何期间可使用 Golden Spring (New York) 的借记卡？ 11:56:23\n\n答：先生，我不记得。 11:56:38\n\n问：你记得她——即郭文贵先生的妻子——最后一次使用 Golden Spring (New York) 借记卡是什么时候吗？ 11:56:42\n\n答：我不记得。 11:56:53\n\n问：作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的总裁和财务主管，你是否授权郭文贵先生的妻子使用 Golden Spring (New York) 借记卡？ 11:56:54\n\n答：授权？我相信是的。而且郭强先生要求 Golden Spring 这样做。 11:57:12\n\n问：但你不记得那是什么时候？ 11:57:20\n\n答：正确。 11:57:25\n\n问：好的。而且我相信你刚才作证说，据你所知，郭文贵先生从未使用过 Golden Spring (New York) 借记卡；这正确吗？ 11:57:27\n\n答：他从未使用过 Golden Spring (New York) 借记卡。 11:57:46\n\n第 104 页\n\n银行卡？\n\n问：据您所知，他是否曾使用该借记卡号购买任何物品？\n\n答：截至目前，没有。\n\n问：郭文贵（Ho Wan Kwok）先生是否能够使用 Golden Spring（黄金之春）借记卡？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：他是否曾要求您——这里的“他”指郭文贵先生——以您作为 Golden Spring 总裁的身份为他购买任何物品？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：他的妻子呢？她是否能够使用 Golden Spring 借记卡？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：您是 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（黄金之春〔纽约〕有限公司）的财务主管，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您是否确实不知道郭文贵的妻子是否能够使用公司借记卡？\n\n答：她以前有一张，但我不确定那张卡是否仍处于激活状态。\n\n问：她何时有过一张？\n\n答：很久以前。\n\n问：您能否说得更具体一些？\n\n答：您所说的“更具体”是什么意思，先生？\n\n问：您知道我的意思。\n\n罗森先生（MR. ROSEN）：反对。\n\n您能否请直接向证人说明您的问题是什么？\n\n第103页\n\n（第102页至第105页）\n\n问：您能否举例说明他曾要求您为他购买的任何物品？\n\n答：我的意思是，我不记得具体细节，但确实发生过。\n\n问：您不记得郭文贵先生曾要求您为他购买的任何一件物品吗？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：他要求您为他购买物品的情况发生过多少次？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：不止一次？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：超过一百次？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：在郭文贵先生要求您为他购买物品的场合，您会怎么做？\n\n答：按照郭强（Qiang Guo）先生的指示，我帮助他，是的，我会去为他购买。\n\n问：好的。您是否曾——是否曾——您是否曾拒绝郭文贵先生要求您为他购买物品的请求？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：是什么时候？\n\n答：我不记得。但我显然需要向郭强先生报告，如果他拒绝，我就会拒绝。\n\n问：好的。因此，我想确保我理解这个流程。\n\n您的证言是否是，每次郭文贵先生要求您为他购买物品时，您都会征询他儿子的意见以获得许可？这是正确还是不正确？\n\n答：并非每次。比如，如您所说，购买咖啡，对吗？\n\n显然，我不需要征询郭强先生。\n\n问：好的。您如何决定何时就郭文贵希望您购买的物品征询郭文贵儿子的意见？\n\n答：我不记得。但确实发生过。\n\n问：您对此有什么想法吗？\n\n答：比如法律费用？\n\n问：不是。\n\n我——我只是笼统地问您。我还没有问您法律费用，尽管希望我们会谈到这个问题。\n\n我是在笼统地问，如果郭文贵先生说，嘿，Yvette，我希望你给我买 X，您如何知道是直接购买 X，还是要获得他儿子的许可？您如何决定？\n\n答：嗯，比如每年的食物和咖啡，以及他的交通，这些生活方式方面的事项已经获得郭强先生批准；因此，Golden Spring 可以直接购买或支付，然后向郭强先生报告；因此，除——除了——除什么之外？除那些事项之外，显然，Golden Spring 需要向郭强先生上报以获得批准。\n\n问：明白。\n\n因此，如果我——如果我正确理解您的意思，食物、衣物、交通——这些事项不需要郭强先生的具体批准，而且，依您之见，您可以在未经其许可的情况下直接为郭先生购买这些物品。我的理解正确吗？\n\n答：是。那是给予 Golden Spring 的指示；所以——\n\n问：这是——\n\n答：——我们就去购买。\n\n问：无论物品多么昂贵，这都是如此吗？\n\n答：先生，您所说的昂贵范围是什么？我的意思是——\n\n问：那么，让我们以交通为例。\n\n您是否知道——郭先生经常乘坐迈巴赫豪华轿车出行？\n\n答：我是否知道？您所说的我是否知道是什么意思？\n\n问：您知道——您知道豪华轿车是什么吗？\n\n答：加长礼宾车，是的。我知道。\n\n问：好的。您知道迈巴赫是什么吗？\n\n答：知道。\n\n问：好的。这是一种汽车，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：郭文贵先生经常乘坐迈巴赫出行，这不是真的吗？\n\n答：先生——先生，我知道 Mileson（迈尔森）希望他的父亲安全且受到保障；所以这是我知道的事情。\n\n第106页\n\n但我不知道，比如频率。我并非每天都跟着他的父亲。\n\n我无法说明这一点。\n\n问：Golden Spring——我请您为了今天本次证言录取的目的接受——就相信我所说的，在过去一个月内，郭先生至少有一次乘坐迈巴赫出行。\n\n好吗？\n\n我们就作此假设。\n\n我要问您的是，Golden Spring (New York) 是否支付了该迈巴赫交通费用？\n\n答：Golden Spring (New York) 支付——支付汽油费，是的。汽油费。那是——\n\n问：Golden Spring 支付什么交通费用？\n\n答：——我们支付的交通费用。\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) 是否拥有任何迈巴赫车辆？\n\n答：哦，我——我不记得，比如迈巴赫是否归 Golden Spring 所有。我的意思是，Golden Spring 拥有几辆车。它们最终都归郭强先生所有。\n\n问：是的。我明白。\n\n请告诉我 Golden Spring 拥有的车辆。您刚才提到有几辆。它们是什么？\n\n答：我不是懂车的人；所以我需要查一下。\n\n问：好的。它们是好车吗？\n\n答：我无法判断。\n\n问：您也不知道 Golden Spring (New York) 所拥有的车辆中是否有一辆是迈巴赫，对吗？\n\n答：我不知道，因为这是 Mileson 的——就像郭强先生一样，他直接购买。\n\n问：是的。\n\n答：所以我并不——\n\n问：我——我——我明白。\n\n但我问的是 Golden Spring (New York)。\n\n好吗？\n\n我问的是 Golden Spring (New York) Limited，您是该公司的总裁、财务主管、秘书和董事。我问您是否知道 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 是否拥有一辆迈巴赫汽车。\n\n您知道吗？\n\n答：我不记得。我需要查一下。\n\n问：好的。您还告诉我，Golden Spring (New York) 为郭文贵先生的交通费用付款，对吗？\n\n第110页\n\n答：对。\n\n问：其中包括汽车交通，对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：其中包括安排租赁车辆，如果那是他希望出行的方式，对吗？\n\n答：我们支付汽油费。\n\n问：是的。我听到了。我只是想弄清楚车辆归谁所有，王女士（Ms. Wang）。\n\n您是否知道 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 是否曾租用或租赁一辆迈巴赫以运送郭文贵先生？您知道吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n哈巴赫先生（MR. HARBACH）：那么，罗森先生，我接受证人提出的、就 Golden Spring (New York) 所拥有车辆类型以及尤其是其是否拥有任何迈巴赫汽车向我们回复的建议，如果您同意的话。\n\n罗森先生：我们将予以考虑。\n\n哈巴赫先生：好的。\n\n罗森先生：您的请求已——已记录。\n\n哈巴赫先生：好的。谢谢。\n\n证人：先生，我们能休息一下吗？\n\n我的意思是，现在是12:00。\n\n问：当然。\n\n答：我确实需要午休，是的。\n\n问：如果——如果您现在想休息，完全没有问题。\n\n哈巴赫先生：我不知道 Suzanne 或 Jeff 谁会让我们暂停，但我建议在——在 1:00 整点继续。\n\n各位可以接受吗？\n\n罗森先生：可以。\n\n哈巴赫先生：好的。\n\n录像员：我们现在停止记录。\n\n时间是12:08。\n\n（午餐休庭。）\n\n录像员：我们恢复记录。\n\n时间是1:01。\n\n哈巴赫先生讯问：\n\n问：下午好，王女士——王女士。\n\n有一个小问题与我午餐前问您的问题无关。\n\n好吗？您认识一个叫 Yu Yong（于勇）的人吗？\n\n拼作 Y-u Y-o-n-g。\n\n答：认识。\n\n第112页\n\n问：好的。那个人是谁？\n\n答：我以前在纽约见过她。\n\n问：好的。您知道她以何为生吗？\n\n答：我见到她时，她也与该家庭一起工作。\n\n问：郭家？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：具体与谁一起工作？\n\n答：与郭强先生一起。\n\n问：还有其他人吗？\n\n答：我相信还与——与郭强先生的父亲一起——\n\n问：还有——\n\n答：——但我没有具体细节。\n\n问：好的。您大约是什么时候见到她的？\n\n答：2015。\n\n问：好的。谢谢。\n\n一个新话题。\n\n是谁设立了 Golden Spring (New York) Limited？\n\n答：据我了解，是郭强先生设立的。\n\n问：当您说这是您的理解时，您知道这一点，还是有人告诉您这一点？\n\n第113页\n\n答：这是我后来得知的。我相信会有——会有律师事务所为他提供支持，但他设立了该公司。\n\n问：他为什么设立该公司？\n\n答：我是后来才知道的——不是在他设立公司时——他当时试图在中国境外开展业务，主要是在美国这里。\n\n问：什么类型的业务？\n\n罗森先生：反对。这与本案有什么——有什么关联性，David？\n\n哈巴赫先生：我试图探究证人关于 Golden Spring 商业目的的最新回答。她说他——他，即郭强，创立该公司是为了做 X、Y 和 Z。我正试图询问，在 Golden Spring 设立之后，他实际在该国停留了多长时间。\n\n这就是我提问的原因。\n\n罗森先生（MR. ROSEN）：仅为记录在案，我们今天在这次证言录取中都身处不同地点。在当今世界，您坐在哪里并不一定意味着什么。不过，话虽如此，我会指示证人作答。\n\n哈巴赫先生（MR. HARBACH）提问：\n\n问：强·郭（Qiang Guo）在英国居住了多久？\n\n答：多年。我的意思是——\n\n问：您回答完了吗？您说多年，可能是吗？\n\n答：我的回答不是四年，不是 f-o-u-r，四年。这就是我的回答。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：我不知道有多少年，是的。\n\n问：您不知道有多少年？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：会不会超过十年？\n\n答：我认为不会。\n\n问：如果您知道的话，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）成立后多久，郭强搬到了英国？\n\n答：我记不起来。\n\n问：好的。您知道什么——您能告诉我们，金泉（纽约）有限公司为推进您刚才所述的商业目的做了什么？\n\n答：郭强于 2015 年在美国，之后他也经常旅行。而且，显然，他成立了该公司，之后我们据此制定商业架构和计划；因此，那仍然是他的指示，我们一直在这样做，直到他的父亲开始进行其举报人行动。\n\n问：最初的商业计划是什么？\n\n答：投资。\n\n问：好的。我相信您提到了房地产。还有什么？\n\n答：我们从房地产开始。有房地产，例如投资。\n\n问：好的。那么，除了投资资金之外，还有其他商业目的吗？\n\n答：并作为纽约的一家家族办公室运营，以支持其他家族项目。\n\n问：好的。您此前提到支持 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）。金泉（纽约）有限公司还支持了哪些其他家族项目？\n\n答：包括他们的项目——房地产。例如，包括访谈和资料发放。建筑师、设计师等与房地产相关的供应商，然后我们为他们提供协助和协调。\n\n问：金泉（纽约）有限公司是一家营利性企业吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：其收入来源是什么？\n\n答：收入来源？我的意思是，我们是一家营利性公司，但我们尚未开始取得收入；因此，收入来源应当是，我们根据家族计划建立项目，然后开始从这些项目——投资项目中获利。\n\n问：好的。所以，该公司投资资金，并希望从投资中赚钱。是这样吗？\n\n答：是的，这是计划中的收入来源的一部分。\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) Limited 是否有任何客户？还是仅有家族？\n\n答：据我们理解，家族办公室通常是为家族企业提供支持和服务；因此，我们的客户是家族。\n\n问：好的。这包括 Ho Wan Kwok，不是吗？\n\n答：他是请求金泉提供支持的公司所有人；因此，金泉并不计划从他的父亲那里获得利润，或者说，我们没有考虑过那一点以及如何获得利润，对吗？\n\n问：那么，您刚才说金泉（纽约）有限公司的客户是家族。我问您，其中是否包括郭文贵。我提出该问题的原因是，郭文贵是该家族的一员，不是吗？\n\n答：这就是我的回答。金泉——\n\n罗森先生：请暂缓回答，稍等一下。\n\n问：据您所知，郭文贵是否曾向金泉（纽约）有限公司出资或支付任何款项？\n\n答：据我所知，没有。这就是我所知道的全部。据我所知。\n\n问：据您所知，郭文贵拥有或控制的任何商业组织是否曾向金泉（纽约）有限公司出资？\n\n罗森先生：反对。\n\n您可以回答该问题。\n\n证人：据我所知，没有。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：作为金泉（纽约）有限公司的财务主管，如果发生过这种情况，您本应知道吗？\n\n答：自从我——\n\n罗森先生：反对。\n\n您可以回答。\n\n证人：自从我被任命为金泉的财务主管以来，我没有看到任何款项来自郭文贵，而且金泉不把他视为客户；因此，他是家族成员，但并非我们所说的潜在客户。他是所有人。他是所有人的父亲，例如，这就是我们的理解。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：事实上，他就是所有人，不是吗，王女士（Ms. Wang）？\n\n罗森先生：反对。\n\n证人：他根本不是所有人。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：就像房地产相关业务、投资——例如多元化业务。\n\n问：好的。金泉（纽约）有限公司成立时，谁为其提供资金？\n\n答：我后来得知，是郭强安排了资金——为金泉提供资金。\n\n问：当您说他安排时，您的意思是他本人提供了资金吗？\n\n答：嗯，不是。\n\n他通过他的——另一家公司作出安排。\n\n我相信该公司名为 Bravo Luck（布拉沃·拉克）。\n\n问：我明白了。因此，您的理解是，金泉（纽约）有限公司成立时为其提供资金的款项来自 Bravo Luck？\n\n答：这是我所了解到的。\n\n问：来自谁？\n\n答：来自郭强。\n\n问：您是否曾就 Bravo Luck 与 Ho Wan Kwok 交谈过？\n\n答：嗯，我不记得。\n\n问：您是否曾就金泉（纽约）有限公司成立时用于为其提供资金的款项来源，与 Ho Wan Kwok 交谈过？\n\n答：没有。\n\n我不记得我这样做过。\n\n问：您知道 Bravo Luck 如何获得您所称用于为金泉（纽约）有限公司提供资金的款项吗？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：金泉（纽约）成立时的商业目的是什么——曾经是什么？\n\n答：哦，金泉是作为郭强拥有的一家家族办公室设立的；因此，如我所说，郭强当时计划在美国发展和扩展业务，包括投资、房地产以及他当时从事的业务。\n\n问：郭强现在居住在哪里？哪个国家？\n\n答：他住在英国。\n\n问：他在那里住了多久？\n\n罗森先生：我反对——理由是我不确定您对“客户”一词的使用是否被理解。您能澄清一下吗？\n\n哈巴赫先生：当然可以。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：王女士，您知道我所说的“客户”是什么意思吗？\n\n答：客户是指您提供服务以获得报酬的对象。\n\n问：好的。刚才您说，金泉（纽约）有限公司的客户是家族。您的意思是否如您刚才所描述的那样，还是有其他不同含义？\n\n答：我的意思是，客户是郭氏家族。我的意思是，他们——他们如我此前作证所述，大约有一百名家族成员。他们都可能是我们的客户。他们都是商人。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：所以，作为金泉的客户，我的意思是。\n\n问：好的。您的意思是家族成员向金泉付款吗？\n\n答：我的意思是，如果金泉提供服务并帮助他们成功投资，是的。\n\n金泉将获得付款。\n\n问：好的。那么，我现在的问题是，Ho Wan Kwok 是否属于作为金泉（纽约）有限公司客户的家族的一部分？\n\n罗森先生：对问题形式提出异议。问题是——您的问题是，他个人是否是客户？因为您所问的是，他是否属于作为客户的家族的一部分。\n\n哈巴赫先生：嗯，抱歉，我并非有意造成混淆。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：王女士，我理解您刚才说，家族——您说该家族由众多人组成——是金泉（纽约）有限公司的客户；这是否正确？\n\n答：家族及其从事商业活动的家族成员；正确。\n\n他们是金泉的客户。当然，我不是指未成年子女，对吗？\n\n所以我已经说得很清楚了。\n\n问：Ho Wan Kwok 是该家族的一员吗？\n\n答：是的，他是家族成员之一。\n\n问：除了这些之外，还有其他事项吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：这就是计划。我的意思是，作为一家家族办公室——对吗？——我们应当进行投资并取得收入——取得收入。我的意思是，我不是一家律师事务所。我不是其他的，您知道，服务公司。然后，我还应当期待有什么其他收入来源。\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) Limited 是否有任何银行账户？\n\n答：您问的是哪个时间点，先生？\n\n问：我问的是目前。\n\n答：有。\n\n问：有多少个？\n\n答：一个。\n\n问：在哪家银行？\n\n罗森先生：反对。这里涉及安全问题，而且我们——我了解到，金泉的银行账户已作为据向我所述的一项骚扰计划的一部分而被关闭；因此，我请求此时不要披露——请求证人不要披露银行账户所在地。\n\n哈巴赫先生：好的，Scott，我并非有意不遵从您的指示。我将提出另一个问题；如果您希望将其纳入您的异议，请这样做。但我将提出这个问题。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：在 Golden Spring 任职创建时，您是其雇员、董事还是高级管理人员？\n\n答：您是指追溯到 2015 年吗，先生？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：不是。\n\n问：回到我关于 Golden Spring（New York）Limited（Golden Spring（纽约）有限公司）收入来源的问题，除投资回报外，该类别中还有其他收入吗？\n\n答：您的意思是？除了我此前答复您的内容之外，是否还有其他收入来源？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：好的。那么那将是我们的主要收入来源。比如，家族办公室——我的意思是，据我了解，你们已经进行投资；因此，当你们投资时，就会获得收益，然后我们得到报酬，所以我们就……\n\n问：我明白。\n\n问：Wang（王）女士，Golden Spring（New York）的银行账户是否设在美国银行？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：该账户目前的大致余额是多少？\n\n答：出于安全考虑，同样的原因，我非常犹豫是否告诉您，因为 PAX（PAX）已经，比如说，骚扰了 Golden Spring 的所有银行账户。\n\n所以我们谈的是 DIP 贷款，对吗？\n\n问：嗯，是的。\n\n您知道——已通知进行本次证言记录的原因，而且我不会就该问题是否适当与您争论。\n\n我的问题是，Golden Spring 在美国的一个银行账户中大致有多少余额？\n\nROSEN（罗森）先生：我将提出异议，并且，如果律师可以接受，我希望短暂休庭，与我的当事人讨论此事。\n\nHARBACH（哈巴赫）先生：当然，完全没有问题。\n\n摄像记录员：现在暂停记录。\n\n时间为 1:21。\n\n（短暂休庭。）\n\n摄像记录员：现在恢复记录。\n\n时间为 1:34。\n\nHARBACH 先生：Scott（斯科特），您是否想在记录中说明什么，还是不需要？\n\nROSEN 先生：不需要。\n\n我不需要在记录中说明任何事情。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：好的，Wang 女士，休庭期间，除您的律师外，您是否与其他任何人交谈？\n\n答：我只与 Scott Rosen 先生交谈。\n\n问：好的。谢谢。\n\n休庭前尚待回答的问题是：Golden Spring（New York）Limited 在美国的一个银行账户中的大致余额是多少？\n\nROSEN 先生：我将提出异议，并指示证人不要回答该具体问题，因为 Golden Spring 担心，在 PAX 采取的债权人权利行动的背景下维持该银行账户的完整性和可用性。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：撇开该银行的名称不谈，Golden Spring（New York）Limited 约拥有多少价值的流动资产？\n\n答：Golden Spring 有——我的意思是，有足够的资金支持 Golden Spring 的运营。我的意思是，我们没有现金流问题，所以……\n\n问：好的。您对于何为现金流问题的判断、我们对于何为现金流问题的判断，以及 Manning（曼宁）法官对于何为现金流问题的判断，可能是三种截然不同的判断。\n\n因此，这就是我询问 Golden Spring（New York）Limited 约拥有多少流动资产的原因。\n\n答：余额每天都在变化，因为每天都会发生事情；所以我不想猜测。显然，我现在没有查看银行余额；因此我无法说明。\n\n问：您上一次查看余额是什么时候？\n\n答：我不记得了。这是财务——财务部门，他们在处理这件事。\n\n问：嗯，您是财务主管，对吗？\n\nROSEN 先生：请原谅。我以为这些问题撇开了银行账户。问题是——流动资产的价值是多少，撇开银行账户不谈。\n\nHARBACH 先生：是的。我的意思是——我不敢相信我说过——如果我没有说过，那是我弄错了。我的意思是银行的身份。我并不——我并不想获取该银行的身份信息。我只是想弄清 Golden Spring（New York）Limited 有多少钱。仅此而已。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：公司有多少钱？您知道吗？\n\n答：这些钱足以支持所有日常运营。\n\n问：您是——您是不愿告诉我 Golden Spring 有多少钱，还是您不知道 Golden Spring 有多少钱？\n\nROSEN 先生：是的。我——我必须在这里提出异议。鉴于 PAX 已开展的债权人活动，对于 Golden Spring 资产的完整性和可用性存在担忧；因此，这些是——这些是敏感问题。如果——如果您想问贷款收益将从何而来的问题，那么我们——我们当然可以讨论。但就其现有资产而言，目前债权人的利益——确实——确实——确实超过任何——任何——任何相关性。\n\nHARBACH 先生：是的。我——我认为我理解您的异议，而且我不会全面展开争论，只会说明我们强烈不同意。但如果您指示证人不要回答，我会尝试继续下一个问题。\n\nROSEN 先生：谢谢。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：Golden Spring（New York）去年大约获得了多少利润？\n\n答：由于整个——比如说，PAX——对吧？——这起案件，我的意思是，PAX 显然传唤了 Golden Spring 的所有银行。然后，据我了解，我的控制设备，比如说，PAX 没有得到任何东西；所以——由于 PAX 如您所说，在过去一年中特别损害了我们的银行关系，我的意思是，我们去年没有获利。\n\n问：您去年没有获利？\n\n答：正确。\n\nROSEN 先生：异议。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：去年是否有——是否有——去年大约损失了多少？\n\n您明白这个问题吗？\n\n答：当然。\n\n问：那么是多少——\n\n答：但我不知道为什么这也与此有关。这是敏感信息，我必须保留。\n\n问：您是——所以您是——您是——您是不愿回答 Golden Spring（New York）Limited 去年的损失规模是多少；对吗？\n\nROSEN 先生：异议。这不是 Golden Spring 的资产披露证言记录。而且——而且鉴于已经存在的待决诉讼，此类问题超出了本次证言记录应有的范围；再次说明，这是破产案件中一项有争议的事项，涉及一笔 DIP 贷款，该贷款正以完全次级的方式获准；因此，这——这就是我们今天在这里处理的事项，而不是资产披露。\n\nHARBACH 先生：Scott，这是否是指示不回答？\n\nROSEN 先生：是的。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：谁向 Golden Spring（New York）提出了债务人占有融资的请求？\n\n答：我——我可以请译员帮助我理解这个问题吗？\n\n问：当然。\n\nHARBACH 先生：Johnston（约翰斯顿）女士，我再说一遍。谁向 Golden Spring（New York）Limited 提出了债务人占有融资的请求？\n\n译员：（翻译问题。）\n\n核对译员：核对译员可以协助解释该术语吗？\n\n译员：当然可以。\n\n证人：根据译员的理解，这是债务人的贷款，对吗？债务人的占有。债务人的贷款。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：嗯，Wang——Wang 女士，今天您多次向我指出，我们在这里是讨论一笔 DIP 贷款。\n\n您知道什么是 DIP 贷款吗？\n\n答：知道。\n\n这是债务人与贷款人之间的一笔贷款。\n\n问：好的。您知道 DIP 代表什么吗？\n\n答：知道。\n\n问：它代表什么？\n\n答：它是一笔 DIP 贷款，显示在——我的意思是，我不是律师，对吗？\n\n这是贷款人与债务人之间的一笔贷款。\n\n问：三十秒前您对我说您知道 DIP 代表什么。如果您不知道，也没关系。我只是要求一个诚实的回答。\n\n您知道 DIP 代表什么吗？它是一个缩略词。\n\n答：它是一笔贷款。它是一笔贷款。这就是我的回答。\n\n问：好的。它代表 debtor in possession。\n\n好的？\n\n这不是什么秘密，但是——我继续问。\n\n谁向 Golden Spring（New York）提出了关于本案所涉债务人占有融资的请求？\n\n答：Golden Spring（New York）的所有人。\n\n问：Golden Spring（New York）的所有人向 Golden Spring（New York）提出了 DIP 融资请求？这是您的证言吗？\n\n答：我不明白您的问题。\n\n问：谁请求了这笔贷款？\n\n答：我没有参与这笔贷款的谈判。\n\n问：您知道谁提出了贷款请求吗？\n\n答：我没有参与这笔贷款的谈判。我只是从 Golden Spring 的所有人那里得到指示和建议。\n\n问：好的。对这个问题的答案——对我问题的答案是您不知道吗？\n\n答：我没有参与。\n\n问：您知道吗？我们使用口译员吧。\n\nHARBACH 先生：Johnston 女士，您能——嗯，我们这样做吧。\n\nHARBACH 先生询问：\n\n问：您知道谁向 Golden Spring（New York）Limited 提出了作为今日证言记录主题的贷款请求吗？\n\n答：我没有亲身了解。\n\n问：是否有人告诉过您是谁提出了贷款——谁提出了作为今日证言记录主题的贷款请求？\n\n答：有人告诉过我吗？\n\n问：嗯，您说您没有亲身了解。\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：我知道那——我知道那是什么意思。\n\n答：Golden Spring 一直在为 Qiang Guo（郭强）的父亲提供诉讼资金，我的意思是，为……\n\n问：因此，我问您，您是否曾从任何其他人处得知，是谁提出了与今日证言有关的贷款请求？\n\n答：我从Qiang Guo（郭强）先生那里听说过他的DIP贷款。\n\n问：他说是谁请求了该DIP贷款？\n\n答：他提到他的父亲——他父亲的律师。\n\n问：您记得那位律师的姓名吗？\n\n答：我不记得。他没有告诉我，而且我不记得。\n\n问：如果您知道，该请求是在何时提出的？\n\n答：在三月。\n\n问：哪一年？\n\n答：今年。\n\n问：作为Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事，您是否参与了是否向债务人提供DIP融资的决定？\n\n答：事后Qiang Guo先生告知了我。时间相当紧迫。他处理了此事；因此，对您的回答是，我没有参与。\n\n问：郭先生是否就Golden Spring (New York)是否同意向本案债务人提供DIP融资的决定征询过您？\n\n第134页\n\n问：我是指Qiang Guo先生是否就Golden Spring (New York)是否同意向本案债务人提供DIP融资的决定征询过您？\n\n答：您所说的“征询”是什么意思？\n\n问：您知道“征询”是什么意思吗？\n\n答：当然知道。\n\n问：好的。那么，Qiang Guo先生是否就Golden Spring (New York)是否同意向债务人提供DIP融资的决定征询过您？\n\n答：您的意思是，他是在作出决定时——？\n\n问：好，我们将会谈到是谁作出的决定。我想弄清楚您是否参与其中，以及如果参与，是如何参与的。几分钟前您告诉我，您没有参与该决定。\n\n我问的是Qiang Guo先生是否就该决定与您交谈过。\n\n答：是的。\n\n他就该决定与我交谈过。\n\n问：是在他作出决定之前，还是之后？\n\n答：之后。\n\n问：我说得对吗，该决定是他作出的，而不是您作出的？对吗？\n\n……数年来。鉴于显然时间很短，Qiang Guo先生作出了决定。作为公司的总裁，我对此意见一致；他知道，而且他也知道我会与此保持一致。\n\n问：我明白了。\n\n答：所以没有必要——\n\n问：而且那是否——\n\n答：没有必要争论那个，是的，如果那是您所要找的。\n\n问：我——我——我——您知道，我并非试图与您争论。我只是试图了解发生了什么。\n\n那么这样如何？\n\n您明白Golden Spring过去可能向Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生提供的诉讼融资，与我们今天所谈的DIP贷款不同吗？您明白那是两件不同的事情；对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。因此，我只想集中讨论DIP贷款，而不讨论过去可能发生的诉讼融资。\n\n您明白吗？\n\n答：明白。\n\n问：好的。因此，我是否理解正确，根据您的说法，是否同意向债务人提供DIP贷款的决定，是Qiang Guo先生作出的决定？对吗？\n\n答：他显然是代表Golden Spring作出决定的，而且他是公司的所有人。\n\n我们的意见一致。\n\n问：好的。而您是Golden Spring (New York) Limited的总裁，以及所有其他那些职务；对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：您是否曾不同意Qiang Guo先生作出的某项决定？\n\n答：是的，当然。\n\n问：好的。他是否征求过您对这项决定的同意？\n\n答：您是指这项DIP贷款决定？\n\n问：嗯哼。\n\n答：没有。\n\n为什么？\n\n问：他只是——他告诉您——\n\n答：为什么？\n\n问：他是在作出决定后才告诉您此事；对吗？\n\n35（第134—137页）\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 398-1 于 04/27/22 提交，于 05/19/22 11:20:43 登记，第37页，共95页\n\n答：他向我简要说明了发生的事情。\n\n问：他告诉了您什么？\n\n答：关于这项DIP贷款，以及他在很短的时限内没有足够的时间。他处理了此事。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：因此，在时间很短或紧急的事情上，他总会告知我。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：然后他就那样处理了。他向我作了简要说明。就是这样。\n\n问：好的。我再问您一次，他在向您作简要说明时说了什么，然后我会——我会换一种问法。\n\n答：好的。\n\n问：如果您记得，他在向您作简要说明时说了什么？我的意思是，这大概是一个月前的事？\n\n答：那么您问的是哪件事？是作简要说明发生的时候，还是DIP贷款发生的时候，先生？\n\n问：十五秒前，您告诉我几次，Qiang Guo先生向您作了简要说明。\n\n您记得吗？\n\n答：记得。\n\n问：他在向您作简要说明时说了什么？\n\n答：他说他聘请了律师，并与贷款人的律师一起——处理DIP贷款。这就是他告诉我的。\n\n问：好的。那是您第一次听说DIP贷款吗？\n\n答：不是。\n\n问：您最先从谁那里听说此事？\n\n答：我从律师那里——我们的律师那里听说的。\n\n问：好的。在与Qiang Guo进行这次谈话之前？\n\n答：对。是的。\n\n问：您是否曾与Ho Wan Kwok先生谈论过DIP贷款？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：您是否有可能谈论过？\n\n答：不太可能。我不记得。\n\n问：您与Ho Wan Kwok先生多久交谈一次？\n\n答：哦，我们按需要见面。\n\n问：一周几次？\n\n答：按需要。\n\n问：比一周几次更多还是更少？\n\n答：按需要。\n\n问：我的意思是，按需要可能是一天二十次，Wang女士（王女士）。\n\n第139页\n\n问：您一天和他交谈二十次吗？\n\n答：显然不会。\n\n问：嗯，这并不显然，因为您不回答问题。\n\n您多久与他交谈一次？\n\nROSEN先生（罗森）：异议。\n\n证人：按需要。\n\nROSEN先生：律师，请具体说明时间范围。\n\nHARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：当然。\n\nHARBACH先生继续询问：\n\n问：从您从某位律师处得知DIP贷款之时起，直至今日，您与Ho Wan Kwok先生交谈过多少次？\n\n答：哦，我想我见过他，大概在一周多前——一周前。\n\n问：好的。那是一次。\n\n您还能想到其他次数吗？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：在您确实记得的那一次，您是否与Ho Wan Kwok先生讨论了DIP贷款？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：您最近一次见到Kwok先生时——您说那是在大约一周前——是在Golden Spring (New York)的办公室吗？\n\n第140页\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。您记得当时与他讨论了什么吗？\n\n答：我们只是——比如说，我向他致意，就是社交性的。\n\n他问我，你好吗；对吧？\n\n所以就这样，是的。\n\n我们聊天——他问我是否安全，我也同样问他。就这样。我们没有——我们没有谈论其他事情。我不——我们没有。\n\n问：好的。就只是——只是，例如“你好，你好吗”之类的事情？\n\n答：是。\n\n显然他当时在这里，我相信，是来会见他的律师。而我——因为这是我的办公室；所以我安排办公室，比如说，照顾他们；比如说，安排他们的食物和咖啡，诸如此类的事情；所以我的办公室为他们做了这些。\n\n问：是您的办公室，还是您本人？\n\n答：我的办公室。我指示我的办公室这样做。\n\n问：好的。您以Golden Spring的总裁及诸如此类的身份——您知道我所说的“诸如此类”是什么意思；对吗？\n\n答：我确实不知道那是什么意思。\n\n问：好的。\n\n“诸如此类”是什么意思？\n\n答：当然。\n\n我的意思是所有那些其他职务，总裁、秘书、财务主管、董事。\n\n您担任全部四项职务；对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。而且您是唯一的总裁；对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：唯一的财务主管；对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。在这些职务中，您有权在未经Qiang Guo许可的情况下作出哪些决定？\n\n答：我在这里作出大多数日常经营决定。当然，我们见面或聊天时，我会向他简要说明，但我在这里自行作出日常经营决定。\n\n问：本案所涉的DIP贷款金额是多少？\n\n答：DIP贷款是\\$8 million U.S.\n\n问：您从谁那里得知这一点？\n\n答：我是从谁那里得知的？从Qiang Guo先生那里。\n\n第142页\n\n问：好的。您知道\\$8 million这一数额是从何而来的吗？\n\n答：当Qiang Guo先生告知我时，他说他也会处理此事，就像我们一贯所做的那样。比如资金；例如，您问他的父亲是否要求购买什么东西，他会——我必须向他上报。他会为他作出决定。\n\nHARBACH先生继续询问：\n\n问：Qiang Guo先生是否曾告诉您，\\$8 million这一数额是如何得出的？\n\n答：（用英语）没有。\n\n问：您熟悉DIP贷款的条款吗？\n\n答：您刚才问过我，是的。现在，是的。\n\nHARBACH先生：请使用口译员。\n\nJohnston女士（约翰斯顿），请您问：您是否熟悉DIP贷款的条款？\n\n口译员：（问题已口译。）\n\n证人：（通过口译员）这是我第一次参与此事；因此，我知道这是一笔贷款。但我不熟悉其条款。\n\nHARBACH先生继续询问：\n\n问：您读过DIP贷款协议吗？\n\n答：（用英语）我简要看过，是的。\n\n问：是什么时候？\n\n答：您是指什么时候，还是指什么？\n\n问：抱歉。\n\n什么时候？您是什么时候简要看过的？\n\n答：哦，我在与律师准备时看的，我相信。\n\n第144页\n\n问：好的。那是多久以前？\n\n答：对不起。\n\n您的问题是什么？那是多久以前？\n\n问：是的，女士。\n\n我——我——我——我不关心任何律师告诉了您什么，但我关心的是您何时与他们会面。\n\n以那种方式。\n\n罗森先生（Mr. ROSEN）：我们能否请口译员来协助处理这个问题？\n\n我认为证人可能第一次误解了问题。\n\n哈巴赫先生（Mr. HARBACH）：当然可以。\n\n约翰斯顿女士（Ms. Johnston），您需要我重复一遍吗？\n\n口译员：是的，请。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：王女士（Ms. Wang），我想问的是，您是否知道 $8 million 这一数额是如何确定的。\n\n口译员：（问题已口译。）\n\n证人：（通过口译员）我没有参与 $8 million 是如何确定的，因此我对此没有任何亲身了解。\n\n问：那么，您是在何时阅读 DIP 贷款协议的？\n\n答：您是问何时阅读的，对吗？\n\n问：对。\n\n答：在本次证言录取之前。昨天。\n\n问：昨天？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：昨天是否是您第一次看到 DIP 贷款协议？\n\n答：我知道它在昨天之前就已经存在，但直到我的律师，例如，为我做准备之前，我并未太过留意。\n\n问：昨天是否是您第一次看到 DIP 贷款协议？\n\n答：我不记得了。我以前可能看过，但我记不起来。\n\n哈巴赫先生：Scott，这个问题绝无意侵犯特权，但我希望您能理解我为何提出这个问题。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：王女士，您昨天与律师会面时，是否有口译员可以协助您？\n\n答：没有。\n\n问：您昨天阅读 DIP 贷款协议时，是否理解其内容？\n\n答：我知道这是一笔贷款。金额为 8 million，利率为 5 percent，最终须经法院批准。\n\n问：好的。您是否知道该贷款附带的任何其他条件？\n\n答：我从阅读中得知，似乎有 50 percent 是支付给贷款人——不，是支付给债务人的专业人员。另有 50 percent 将用于支付 U.S. Trustee 和其他相关律师。\n\n问：您是否熟悉违约事件这一术语？\n\n答：您是指这份 DIP 贷款协议中的违约事件吗？\n\n问：是，女士。\n\n答：我没有留意这方面。\n\n问：您是否知道这份 DIP 贷款协议中列载的任何违约事件是什么？\n\n答：我能否请口译员协助我理解这个问题？因为这涉及这份 DIP 贷款的细节。\n\n问：当然，当然可以。\n\n哈巴赫先生：我将为约翰斯顿女士重复一遍。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：您是否知道这份 DIP 贷款协议中列载的任何违约事件是什么？\n\n口译员：（问题已口译。）\n\n证人：我不记得。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：您是不记得，还是不知道？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：您知道 Arethusa Forsyth（阿雷修萨·福赛思）是谁吗？名字拼写为 A-r-e-t-h-u-s-a，姓氏以 F 开头，如 Frank，o-r-s-y-t-h。您知道此人是谁吗？\n\n答：她是由 Qiang Guo（郭强）聘请来处理这份 DIP 贷款事务的律师。\n\n问：您是否曾有任何——撤回。您知道 Forsyth 律师如何获得报酬吗？\n\n答：抱歉。口译员，我能否请您协助一下？\n\n口译员：（问题已口译。）\n\n证人：啊，好的。再次说明，这不是我的母语。\n\n因此，Qiang Guo 告诉我，他也会处理此事。因为这位律师在英国执业；所以，例如，Qiang Guo 所在之处，他会处理。至于 Golden Spring（金泉），我们尚未收到发票。可能会收到，但我目前尚未看到。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：所以，当 Qiang Guo 告诉您他会处理此事时，您理解为 Golden Spring (New York)（金泉〔纽约〕）将支付她的服务费用；对吗？\n\n答：这是我的理解。至于 Golden Spring，例如，我们尚未收到发票。如果我们收到该发票，我们将处理。\n\n问：好的。除您和 Qiang Guo 外，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）是否还有其他现任高级管理人员和董事？\n\n答：没有。只有我和他。\n\n问：好的。我是否正确理解，在 2020 年有几个月期间，您被一名叫 Daniel Podhaskie（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基）的人接任总裁职务，拼写为 P-o-d-h-a-s-k-i-e？对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：看来 Podhaskie 先生担任这些职务的时间略少于两个月。这听起来大致正确吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。那么，在那几个月中，他为何接替您？\n\n答：因为当时我——我有个人问题，致使我无法履行我的工作职责。\n\n问：我明白了。在该个人问题解决后，您又回任——\n\n答：对。\n\n问：——对吗？\n\n答：是，对。\n\n问：好的。您复职后，是否与 Podhaskie 先生进行过情况说明会？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：好的。您是否记得，在与 Podhaskie 先生的任何谈话中，他是否与 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）有联系？\n\n答：没有。我不记得。我们只是，例如，交接了日常运营工作。我的意思是，除此之外我不记得其他事情。\n\n问：据您所知，截至今天，Podhaskie 先生目前是否为 Golden Spring (New York) 工作？\n\n答：不是。\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) 目前的总法律顾问是谁？\n\n罗森先生：我将对此问题提出异议，并且我获悉，出于人身安全事项考虑，总法律顾问不希望披露其身份。\n\n哈巴赫先生：好的，Scott，我想我可以绕开这一点。您若想打断，请不要犹豫，但我会尽量绕开这一点。好吗？\n\n罗森先生：好的。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：王女士，您的律师不希望您说出姓名，但您是否知道 Golden Spring (New York) 现任总法律顾问是谁？\n\n答：是，我知道。\n\n问：好的。您是否与该人沟通？\n\n答：是，我们有沟通。\n\n问：频率如何？您多久与该人沟通一次？\n\n答：我们有沟通——不是每天，但每周数次。\n\n问：好的。我觉得有意思的是，您清楚记得自己与总法律顾问交谈的频率，却无法清楚记得自己与 Ho Wan Kwok 先生交谈的频率。您能解释一下吗？\n\n答：可以，先生。因为我是 Golden Spring 的总裁，与我的雇员沟通，包括与我的总法律顾问及其他雇员沟通，是我的工作；这是我的职责。我受雇获得报酬就是为此。因此，Ho Wan Kwok 先生——我的意思是，我们并不定期沟通，或任何——例如您所说的那种定期沟通。我们只在需要时沟通。我的意思是，他不是雇员，对吗？而且我不向他汇报；那么我为何应当，例如，保持那种规律并与一个并非我工作范围内的人交谈？\n\n问：请稍等一下。等一秒钟。\n\n问：Golden Spring 现任总法律顾问是在何时受聘的？\n\n答：不到两年前。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：不到——接近两年。\n\n问：大约两年前？\n\n答：是。大约两年前。略多或略少一些。\n\n问：好的。您是否参与了聘用此人的决定？\n\n答：是。我作为公司总裁，作出所有招聘决定。\n\n问：您为该职位面试了多少其他人？\n\n答：哇。我的意思是，我在招聘时，如果可以这么说，我相当挑剔；所以我确实面试了，例如，数名候选人。\n\n问：好的。您是否知道目前担任总法律顾问的人在来到 Golden Spring 前紧接着在哪里工作？\n\n答：您能否再重复一遍？\n\n问：可以。\n\n答：抱歉。\n\n问：您说您参与聘用的那名 Golden Spring 总法律顾问，在来到 Golden Spring 前紧接着在哪里工作，如果您知道的话？\n\n答：我确实知道，但我不愿意透露有关我现任雇员的任何细节——\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：——包括其先前雇主。\n\n问：这样如何？\n\n答：还是出于安全原因。\n\n问：请告诉我——请告诉我——请告诉我，该总法律顾问在来到 Golden Spring 前所任职公司的第一个字母。\n\n罗森先生：异议。这——这是同一个问题。\n\n哈巴赫先生：因为只是第一个字母？\n\n罗森先生：我们不是在玩，你知道的，二十问游戏。David，拜托。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：该总法律顾问先前雇主的身份——该总法律顾问先前雇主的身份，是否是您决定聘用该人的一个因素？\n\n答：嗯，我不理解您的问题，先生。我能否请口译员协助我？抱歉。\n\n问：没问题。\n\n哈巴赫先生：开始吧，约翰斯顿女士。\n\n哈巴赫先生提问：\n\n问：该总法律顾问先前雇主的身份，是否是您决定聘用该人的一个因素？\n\n口译员：（问题已口译。）\n\n问：除总法律顾问外，Golden Spring (New York) 还有哪些人员？\n\n答：您问的是哪个时间段，先生？\n\n问：目前。\n\n答：没有。\n\n证人：我在面试和聘用人员时，和我之前的前任雇主一样，这也很重要。而且，显然，您知道，我想聘用高素质人才；对吗？他们来自哪里，这也很重要。而且，另外，我仍然在意他们在上一份工作中的忠诚度。您知道，我不喜欢员工或候选人过于频繁地换工作。但除此之外，您知道，我也在意面试——面试的感觉；对吗？理解力、沟通能力和人际交往能力，当然还有专业能力，这些都很重要；所以，回答您的问题，前任雇主确实重要，但这并非我决定发出录用通知的唯一理由。\n\n由Mr. HARBACH（哈巴赫先生）讯问：\n\n问：在招聘过程中，您是否联系过这位总法律顾问的前任雇主？\n\n答：我记得当时我的人力资源部门进行了背景调查和推荐信核查。我本人没有做这些。我有公司来做这些。\n\n问：所以，您本人没有与此人前任雇主的任何人交谈；对吗？\n\n答：我的意思是，我管理整个……员工。我是公司的总裁，我的理解是，人力资源部门会替我做这件事；对吗？\n\n问：您知道，Wang女士（王女士），这是一个简单的问题。我并不是暗示您本应这样做。我只是问您是否做了。\n\n答：没有，我没有。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：是我的人力资源部门做的，嗯哼。\n\n问：好的。您本人是否为此人进行过任何推荐电话？\n\n答：没有。我没有做过。但我……我……就本人而言，没有。\n\n问：但您的理解是，您人力资源部门里的某人做了？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）还有其他内部律师吗？\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) Limited目前有多少名员工？\n\nMr. ROSEN（罗森先生）：我相信该信息此前已经提供过。我相信，David（大卫），您知悉员工问题的敏感性。我——我认为我们不反对回答有多少名员工，但我请求您不要涉及与此有关的任何个人信息或可识别信息。\n\nMr. HARBACH：是的。我——我——谢谢你，Scott（斯科特）。我确实理解Golden Spring (New York)如其律师向我们陈述、并由债务人律师在先前程序中重申的立场；因此，为本次证言录取之目的，我将尊重您的请求，同时指出我们强烈不同意其依据。\n\n由Mr. HARBACH讯问：\n\n问：所以目前，Wang女士，我的问题只是员工人数。目前有多少名员工在Golden Spring (New York) Limited工作？\n\n答：哦，目前我相信大约有十四人，包括我本人。\n\n问：包括您？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这也包括Qiang Guo先生（郭强先生）吗？还是不包括？\n\n答：不包括。\n\n问：好的。所以您和总法律顾问——包括那个人吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。所以，您、总法律顾问和另外十二个人？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：这些人是否都在家族办公室工作？\n\nMr. ROSEN：我对此提出异议。我被告知存在人身安全问题。而且，如果——如果——如果您愿意，David，我有一份来自Golden Spring安全团队的声明，可以宣读并记入记录。如果——如果——如果您认为合适的话。不过——\n\nMr. HARBACH：我——我感谢这一点，Scott。我的意思是，正如我之前所说，我们——我们理解您所采取的立场。如果您的立场是，所有员工是否在同一地点工作会带来安全风险，以至于您将指示证人不予回答，那么可以。我只会为记录注明，我们——我们不同意，并保留将此问题提交法官处理的权利，就像我们处理今天提出的几乎所有异议一样。但是——但是——但是，如果您同意，这对于目前的目的已经足够了。\n\nMr. ROSEN：是。\n\n那——那没问题。\n\nMr. HARBACH：好的。\n\n由Mr. HARBACH讯问：\n\n问：就您所知，Wang女士，Golden Spring是否预期就DIP贷款获得偿还？\n\n答：这是贷款，是的。Golden Spring将预期获得偿还。\n\n问：我们之前谈到了银行账户之类的事情，而我——我并不打算重新打开那个麻烦的问题，但我要问这个具体问题。若DIP贷款获批，资助该DIP贷款的资金来源是什么？\n\n答：将由Qiang Guo先生直接安排。\n\n问：若DIP贷款获批，资助该DIP贷款的资金来源是什么？\n\n答：将由Qiang Guo先生直接安排。\n\n问：您知道这笔钱将从哪里来吗？\n\n答：我尚未被告知，但Qiang Guo先生说他会处理这件事，正如他一贯所做的那样。\n\n问：所以您是Golden Spring的总裁兼财务主管。正如有人无数次提醒我的，您今天在这里就一笔DIP贷款作证。而您的证词是，您不知道资助DIP贷款的资金来自何处。我说得对吗？\n\nMr. ROSEN：异议。该说法歪曲了证人的证词。您可以回答这个问题。\n\n证人：据我的理解，将由Qiang Guo先生直接从他的……他的财富中安排，正如我们一贯所做的那样。\n\n由Mr. HARBACH讯问：\n\n问：他告诉过您这一点吗？\n\n答：他告诉我，他会处理这件事。\n\n问：他告诉您资金来自哪里吗？\n\n答：目前还没有。但他说他会处理这件事，正如他一贯所做的那样。\n\n问：您问过他资金来自哪里吗？\n\n答：我没有。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：他说他会处理这件事。\n\n问：不。我——我——我明白他说他会处理这件事。我只是问您是否知道资金来自哪里，而且——而且我认为我已经得到了答案。\n\n答：我们彼此信任已有很多年。当他作为公司的所有者说他会处理这件事时，我就让他完成他该做的部分。我在做我该做的部分；对吗？\n\n问：听着，那——那没问题。但您被指定为Golden Spring (New York) Limited中知悉我们已通知的所有这些议题的人。其中一个议题是Golden Spring用于资助DIP贷款协议的资金来源。因此，我——我刚刚问您是否知道，而为了明确起见，您的回答是您不知道，但Qiang Guo说他会处理这件事，而这对您来说已经足够了。\n\nMr. ROSEN：那是——异议。该说法歪曲了证词。\n\nMr. HARBACH：哦，Scott，这如何歪曲了证词？\n\nMr. ROSEN：因为她还证实，这可能来自他的财富。\n\n由Mr. HARBACH讯问：\n\n问：好的。所以他——他这样说了吗？我的问题是，他是否这样告诉过您？他是否告诉您：“我——我将从我的财富中处理这件事”？这是他所说的吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：他这样告诉过您？\n\n答：是。像往常一样，我们交谈。他向我说明了情况。他说：“我会处理这件事。你不用担心。”而且我有地方要租。根据这么多年的理解，那将来自他的财富。\n\n问：好的。所以他没有对您说：“我会用我的钱处理这件事。”他只是说：“我会处理这件事。”而基于您多年来与他的经历，您理解这意味着来自他的财富。我说得对吗？\n\n答：所以您提醒我，就像，他说“我有办法。我会处理这件事”。那是他的，如我们所说，原话。他是这样对我说的。依我理解，那将来自他的……他的财富。\n\n问：好的。这次谈话是什么时候？\n\n答：也是昨天。\n\n问：昨天是否是您第一次得知用于资助DIP贷款协议的资金来源将来自何处？\n\n答：为了准备今天的证言录取，他稍微和我过了一下这项DIP贷款安排。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：是的。他向我提到：“我有办法。我会处理这件事”——\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：——您知道，作为一次谈话。\n\n问：可以理解。我唯一的问题是，当他昨天告诉您“我有办法。我会处理这件事”时，这是否是您第一次得知DIP贷款资金的来源将是什么？\n\n答：那是我从他那里听到这件事的时候，因为——\n\n问：好的。这些章程是否对公司的决策及其作出方式有任何规定？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：好的。这些章程是否包括关于总裁和财务主管应如何参与的规则？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：好的。据您所知，在您任职期间，Golden Spring是否一直适当地在这些章程的约束范围内运作？\n\n答：先生，“适当地”是什么意思？\n\n问：嗯，在您任职Golden Spring (New York)期间，是否按照章程所规定的方式遵守了这些规则？\n\n答：我的意思是，我们是家族办公室。我的意思是，我们是私人公司和家族办公室。我整个职业生涯都为Qiang Guo先生本人工作；所以，他授权我作出决定。我与他沟通。我的意思是，我们没有问题。如果缺少任何文书，并不意味着有人故意做了任何错误的事；所以我们是家族办公室。\n\n问：我并不是暗示任何不当行为，当然更不是故意的。我问您是否\n\n1 我今天需要准备讯问笔录。但是，我知道他拥有这些已有很多年了；所以这并不是，比如说，第一次——对吗？——我明白了——哦，你有钱。这不是那种情况。我知道他有这些。\n\nQ. 哦，我明白了。我明白你的意思。相信我，我并非想暗示昨天是你第一次得知他有钱。完全不是。\n\n我明白这一点。\n\n我——我试图聚焦的是，昨天是否是你第一次得知，为 DIP 贷款提供资金的款项将来自 Qiang Guo（郭强）？\n\nA. 那是我从他那里听说此事的时候，是的。\n\nQ. 好的。你是否知道，DIP 贷款将如何偿还？\n\nA. 我不知道。\n\nQ. 好的。各位，请给我十秒钟。请原谅。\n\n好的。谢谢各位。\n\n换个话题。\n\nQ. Wang 女士，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）是否有你所知的任何公司章程？\n\nA. 有。\n\n我们确有公司章程。\n\n///\n\n该公司有公司章程。你回答说有。\n\n我的下一个问题是，据你所知，自你到任以来，公司是否一直遵守公司章程？\n\nROSEN 先生（罗森先生）：异议。这——这——这个问题范围过于宽泛。\n\n你具体在问公司章程的哪个方面？\n\nHARBACH 先生（哈巴赫先生）：嗯，我试图一直聚焦于决策以及总裁和财务主管的权限；所以我想我会以那种方式提问。\n\nHARBACH 先生提问：\n\nQ. 自你在 Golden Spring 到任以来，关于总裁和财务主管职权和权限的公司章程是否一直得到遵守？\n\nROSEN 先生：异议。公司章程未列入记录。这——这是——这个问题极其含糊。\n\n但你可以回答。\n\n证人：我和 Qiang Guo 基于我们一致——一致——我们的一致协议和适当授权管理 Golden Spring (New York) Limited。\n\n42（第162–165页）\n\nHARBACH 先生提问：\n\nQ. 好的。我换一个问题问你。\n\n当你于 2018 年春季被任命为 Golden Spring (New York) 的总裁、秘书和财务主管时——这——这就是我所关注的时间——你是否知道该公司的特许状自 2017 年 3 月起已失效并作废？\n\nROSEN 先生：异议。该问题假定了记录中没有的事实。\n\n证人：我不记得。\n\nHARBACH 先生提问：\n\nQ. 你是否记得曾代表 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 签署恢复——一份恢复证书，以纠正该问题？\n\nA. 我不记得。如果你有文件，可以提醒我，先生。\n\nQ. 请给我一秒钟。\n\n好的。我想我们很快会出示另一份证物，可能有助于你回忆。\n\nHARBACH 先生：对，是 808。对，是 808。\n\n（讯问证物第 5 号已标记供识别。）\n\nHARBACH 先生：感谢你的耐心。\n\n第166页 第168页\n\n我想我们已经把文件拿出来了。\n\n证人：抱歉。\n\n先生，我们可以在这份文件之后休息一下吗？\n\nHARBACH 先生提问：\n\nQ. 当然可以。\n\nA. 谢谢。\n\nQ. 好的。接下来将显示的是证物 5。好了。\n\n好的。我刚才把自己静音了。抱歉。\n\n请你翻到证物 5 的最后一页好吗？\n\nA. （证人照做。）\n\n是的。我在这里。\n\nQ. 好的。你看到这份文件的标题是“特拉华州，公司特许状恢复证书”吗？\n\nA. 看到了。\n\nQ. 而且底部有一个签名。那是你的签名吗？\n\nA. 是。\n\nQ. 在页面的最右下方写着——那里有一个盖章，写着提交日期为 2018 年 10 月 10 日——我想上面显示的时间是 10:23:18。\n\nA. 是。\n\nHARBACH 先生提问：\n\nQ. 好的。所以这正是我大约一分钟前问你的事情。第 3 段写道，该公司的原始公司注册证书在特拉华州的提交日期是 03/10/2015。\n\n你看到了吗？\n\nA. 看到了。\n\nQ. 因此，2015 年 3 月 10 日显然是 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的成立日期。\n\n然后，如果你往下看第 5 段，其中写道：\n\n“该公司已依法组织成立，并持续经营其特许状所授权的业务，直至 AD 2017 年 3 月 1 日；届时，其特许状因未缴纳税款和／或未提交完整年度报告而失效并作废，并且恢复证书由公司经正式选举产生的董事依照特拉华州法律授权提交。”\n\n我朗读时，你能跟上吗？\n\nA. 能。\n\nQ. 好的。那么现在，这是否唤起你对以下事项的记忆：当你于 2018 年春季受雇于 Golden Spring 时，该公司的特许状已被认定为失效并作废？\n\nA. 那么你的问题是什么，先生？你期待我回答吗？\n\nQ. 是的，女士。\n\n在我找到这份文件之前，当我问你同一个问题时，你说你不记得，或者说你没有印象。你还对我说，如果你有任何文件，也许那可以帮助我；所以我现在向你提供一份文件，试图帮助你。\n\n问题是，看到这份文件是否唤起你对以下事项的记忆：在你于 2018 年春季开始履行 Golden Spring (New York) 职务时，该公司实际上已经失效——更正。\n\n公司的特许状已失效并作废。\n\nA. 所以你是在问我为什么？还是你的问题是什么，先生？为什么，还是——\n\nQ. 我问的是，这是否事实上属实：在你于 2018 年春季受雇时——好吗？——Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的特许状当时是否已失效并作废。\n\n43（第166–169页）\n\nROSEN 先生：异议。该——该文件本身已说明一切。\n\nHARBACH 先生：确实如此，Scott。这很公平。\n\n遗憾的是，本案诉讼的历史表明，有时文件明明不是，却被质疑为不真实文件和伪造文件；所以恐怕我必须提出这个问题。\n\nROSEN 先生：你可以回答这个问题。\n\n证人：先生，我——我不知道在我正式受雇之前发生了什么，但如果你通读整个 Golden Spring，包括我相信的该公司，是由 William Connolly（威廉·康诺利）的一名律师设立的。该律师的姓名载于第 3 页，即 Jerry L. Shulman（杰里·L·舒尔曼）；所以我知道——我后来得知——Jerry 是 Qiang Guo 的律师。而 William Connolly 则是，比如说，负责 Golden Spring 特许状的技术性事项，例如文件，你知道，所有文书；所以我对你的回答是，比如说，在我受雇时——当然，我不知道在我之前发生了什么，但显然，到那时，律师 Jerry Shulman 一直——\n\n第170页\n\n以某种方式维护这里的记录或纠正记录，而这在我之前的情况我并不知晓。\n\nHARBACH 先生提问：\n\nQ. 好的。稍等一下。\n\n好的。我们原以为大楼里要进行消防演习，但这只是测试。抱歉造成噪音。\n\n我明白你的意思，Wang 女士。\n\n你——你签署了这份文件，并且该文件于 2018 年 10 月在特拉华州提交。\n\n你记得签署它吗？\n\nA. 我不记得。年代太久了。\n\nQ. 根据你刚才所说的话，我理解为——\n\n你记得他是 Williams & Connolly（威廉姆斯与康诺利律师事务所）的律师，对吗？\n\nA. 是的，他是 William Connolly 的律师。\n\nQ. 好的。你刚才说的——让我确认我听对了。\n\n你是否说过——他和 Williams & Connolly 代表 Qiang Guo？\n\nA. 在这些 .pdf——在这些证物中，William Connolly、Jerry Shulman——Jerry 也代表 Golden Spring Limited。\n\nQ. 好的。Shulman 先生是否代表 Qiang Guo？\n\nA. 我——\n\nQ. 因为我相信这就是你几分钟前所说的。我只是想确认我听对了。\n\nA. 我相信是的。\n\nQ. 好的。据你所知，Williams & Connolly 的 Shulman 先生是否代表 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）？\n\nA. 我不知道。\n\nQ. 好的。屏幕上的文件写道，特许状失效并作废的原因是未缴纳税款和／或未提交完整年度报告。\n\n你知道其中哪个原因，或者两个原因，导致 Golden Spring 的特许状失效并作废吗？\n\nA. 如我所说，在我之前，发生了什么我不知道。但自我被任命以来，Golden Spring 从未出现这个问题。\n\nQ. 好的。那么显然在你被任命后六个月内它曾出现这个问题，因为恢复证书直到 10 月才提交；所以我再问同一个问题。也许你不知道。如果你不知道也没关系，但我所能做的就是提问。\n\n你知道该特许状失效并作废的原因是什么吗？\n\n如果我问你，你是如何得知 Golden Spring（“金泉”）的章程已失效并无效，你会说那是——那是从你提到的那位律师那里得知的；对吗？\n\n答：我是从你向我出示的证物中读到的。那上面有该律师的姓名，Jerry Shulman（杰里·舒尔曼）。显然，据我理解，他此前一直在处理此事。\n\n问：好的。你是否记得曾与 Shulman 先生交谈过？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：你记得 Shulman 先生——也就是说\n\n答：我不知道原因，但我无法从我获任之日第一天起，就纠正此前发生的一切；对吗？\n\n因此，六个月是一个合理的时间。但我需要花时间，然后开始弥补并纠正我之前发生的事情。\n\n问：是的。谢谢。\n\n你要求短暂休息。\n\nHARBACH 先生（哈巴赫先生）：那我们现在就休息吧。\n\n让大家知道一下——我不太愿意称之为休息——休息至3:00。\n\n录像员：现在停止记录。\n\n时间为下午2:51。\n\n（短暂休庭。）\n\n录像员：现在恢复记录。\n\n时间为3:02。\n\nHARBACH 先生：抱歉，各位。我们这里的扬声器播放了一则很响的通知。\n\n这就是我一直静音的原因。\n\nHARBACH 先生提问：\n\n问：Wang 女士（王女士），在我们进入下一个话题之前，还有一个补充问题。\n\n你能否描述一项自你担任总裁以来 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）所作出的成功投资？\n\n答：自我被任命为总裁以来，首要工作当然是组建整个团队，然后恢复运营。之后，我们确实讨论并推进了一些项目。\n\n但是，由于一宗以 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）为名的诉讼，我们的银行账户余额受到严重影响；因此，我们无法完成完整的投资项目。但我们确实有一些——非常有前景的项目。\n\n问：好的。撇开这个有前景的项目不谈，自你担任总裁以来，Golden Spring 是否完成过任何成功的投资项目？\n\n答：正如我刚才所解释的，由于我们与银行的关系受到 Pacific Alliance 的影响；因此，我们无法完成一个完整且成功的项目——投资项目。\n\n问：好的。那么答案是否定的？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：好的。在你成为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的高级管理人员和董事之前，你认识 Qiang Guo（郭强）吗？\n\n答：认识。\n\n问：好的。自你认识他以来，你能否为我描述一项由 Qiang Guo 开创的成功商业企业？\n\n答：出于显而易见的原因，我不想让他的任何具体企业名称面临任何风险。但我可以告诉你的是，他在投资领域一直非常成功——在——在各个不同国家。\n\n问：他用于投资的资金是不是来自他的父亲？\n\n答：不是。\n\n问：那是从哪里来的？\n\n答：那来自他自己成功的投资。\n\n问：好的。我问的是他最初为了取得成功而投入的资金，那难道不是来自他的父亲吗？\n\n答：不是。\n\n问：好的。那是从哪里来的？\n\n答：据我所知，那来自他的家族——他的大家族。\n\n问：谁告诉你这一点的？\n\n答：我是从他那里得知的。\n\n问：那是他告诉你的？\n\n答：（点头。）\n\n问：好的。下一个话题。你是否记得今天早些时候，我向你解释过，DIP 贷款（占有债务人贷款）——我们刚才讨论了一段时间的贷款——与用于资助诉讼的贷款之间存在区别？你记得吗？\n\n答：记得。\n\n问：好的。那么现在我想谈谈第二类，即 Golden Spring (New York) 向 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）提供的、用于诉讼的贷款。\n\n好的？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。所以——就目前而言，我不是在谈 DIP 贷款。\n\n你明白吗？\n\n答：明白。\n\n问：好的。据 Ho Wan Kwok 先生所称，Golden Spring (New York) 曾向他提供约 $21 million 的贷款，用于支付诉讼费用。\n\n我的问题是，你知道这件事吗？\n\n答：知道。\n\n问：好的。是谁请求这些贷款的？\n\n答：是谁请求这些贷款？你的意思是——我的意思是，你能进一步说明一下这个问题吗？\n\n问：是谁请求 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 提供那些贷款，以支付 Ho Wan Kwok 先生的诉讼费用？\n\n答：我相信他们是直接向 Qiang Guo 先生，即 Golden Spring 的所有人，借款——提出请求的。\n\n问：你说的借款人，是指 Ho Wan Kwok 先生吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：你是否有能力——撤回。\n\n那么，是父亲要求儿子提供这些贷款。\n\n这就是你的理解吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。Golden Spring (New York) 的这些贷款由谁批准？\n\n答：这些贷款由 Qiang Guo 先生和我本人共同批准，我是 Golden Spring 的总裁。\n\n问：你是如何得知有人请求这些贷款的？\n\n答：我是从 Qiang Guo 先生那里听说的。\n\n问：你是否曾就这些贷款与 Ho Wan Kwok 先生进行过任何交谈？\n\n答：没有。\n\n我不记得。\n\n问：好的。你从未问过他这笔钱是用于什么的吗？\n\n答：没有。\n\n那是 Qiang Guo 先生与 Ho Wan Kwok 先生之间的谈话。\n\n问：好的。Ho Wan Kwok 先生所请求的任何诉讼贷款，有被拒绝的吗？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：被谁拒绝？\n\n答：被 Qiang Guo 先生拒绝。\n\n问：以你作为总裁的身份，你是否同意这些贷款应当被拒绝？\n\n答：我赞同 Qiang Guo 先生的拒绝决定。\n\n问：好的。对于涉及数百万美元事项的决定，你是否曾不赞同他的决定？\n\n答：有。\n\n问：好的。你能否描述一次你的意见占上风的情形？\n\n答：例如，我作出所有日常运营方面的决定，包括服装——\n\n问：我不是在问——我不是在问日常运营。我问的是涉及超过一百万美元的决定。\n\n是否曾有过——\n\n答：我不明白你在问什么。超过一百万美元非常笼统。\n\n我的意思是，我不明白你在问什么，先生。\n\n问：好的。你刚才告诉我，有些时候你曾不同意 Qiang Guo 先生的意见；对吗？\n\n答：是的。\n\n问：好的。我的问题是，你和他之间是否曾就一项涉及超过一百万美元的决定发生分歧？\n\n答：超过一百万美元？\n\n问：是。\n\n答：我的意思是，最开始我们确实曾就一些潜在投资项目存在分歧；因此我们没有达成一致，而他也没有被说服，如果这就是你所说的。\n\n问：好的。好的。因此——我认为我理解你的回答了，但有两件事我想澄清并确认。\n\n第一，分歧的例子。\n\n我问过你时间问题。你刚才解释说，其中一个例子是在你于2018年被任命时——你提到了一项房地产项目。\n\n明白了。\n\n你刚才还提到了我们今天早些时候谈到的车辆。\n\n问：那么，再告诉我——再告诉我另一个例子。告诉我一个涉及超过一百万美元、你不同意且你的意见占上风的决定的另一个例子，除了你已经提到三次的房地产项目之外。\n\n还有其他例子吗？\n\n答：我已经回答过了。\n\n问：$21 million 的诉讼费用中是否有任何部分——\n\n15:19:14 问：您还能想到任何其他例子吗？\n\n15:19:29 答：您是在问我超过一百万的情况，我是说，咨询项目，它们超过一百万。\n\n15:19:34 问：我明白。我明白这一点。我问的是，除了那两个之外，是否还有任何其他例子。\n\n15:19:49 答：我们这里是一家家族办公室。如果您问的是他父亲的法律事务，我是说，据郭强先生（Mr. Qiang Guo）告知我，他父亲可能想提起某些诉讼，他当时是在征求我的意见，我给了他我的意见，然后他是否采纳该意见来支持他父亲。这种事情也发生过。\n\n15:20:15 问：关于——关于这些车辆，我相信您说过，即使您不同意，郭强先生仍决定购买这些车辆；对吗？\n\n第182页 第184页\n\n15:20:18 答：对。\n\n15:20:21 问：好的。而且，概括而言，是否确实如您所说，如果您不同意，依您所述，将由郭强先生作出决定？\n\n15:20:30 答：不。这种情况也发生在他那边。如果我不反对，他会按我的意见行事。\n\n15:20:40 问：好的。您能想到一个例子吗？在该例子中，您曾表示不同意，但您的观点最终占了上风，而且所涉决定超过一百万美元？\n\n15:20:47 答：先生，我刚刚已经回答了您的问题。比如房地产投资项目。\n\n15:20:51 问：除了——除了那个项目。\n\n15:20:52 答：我是说，如我所解释的，那是我们的商业计划，对吗？我们从事房地产投资。我已经作证说，我们是一家家族办公室，对吗？\n\n15:21:07 问：我将把您的回答理解为，这是您能想到的唯一例子。\n\n15:21:12 答：我不同意。我不同意。这不是我的回答。我已经非常清楚地给出了我的回答。\n\n10 预计偿还给 Golden Spring (New York) 的10笔贷款？\n\n15:16:19 答：是。\n\n15:16:23 问：这些贷款中是否有任何一笔是书面的？\n\n15:16:24 答：是。\n\n15:16:26 问：您是否见过任何一笔贷款的文件？\n\n15:16:32 答：见过。\n\n15:16:39 问：它们在哪里？\n\n15:16:44 答：在我的办公室里。\n\n15:16:47 问：在东64街，还是其他什么地方？\n\n15:16:51 答：您说其他什么地方是什么意思？\n\n15:16:56 问：抱歉。我是想避免说出确切地址。它们是在纽约市的家族办公室吗？\n\n15:17:09 答：我相信今天早上——今天早上我已经作证说明了我的地址，您有该地址，先生。它在64街办公室，即 Golden Spring (New York) 的办公室。\n\n15:17:29 问：好的。\n\n15:17:34 答：您不需要避免提及该地址，先生。您有该地址。\n\n15:17:41 问：嗯，请原谅我因顾及您的安全问题而格外谨慎。\n\n15:17:49 答：谢谢。\n\n15:17:57 问：那——那是贷款文件所在的地址吗？\n\n15:18:14 答：正确。\n\n15:18:17 问：此类贷款文件有多少份？\n\n15:18:21 答：有几份。\n\n15:18:25 问：超过十份吗？\n\n15:18:29 答：有几份。\n\n15:18:32 问：您是否知道是否超过十份？\n\n15:18:35 答：我已经回答了，有几份。\n\n15:18:38 问：您签署过它们吗？\n\n15:18:39 答：是。\n\n15:18:42 问：谁代表借款人签署了它们？\n\n15:18:47 答：借款人签署了它。\n\n15:21:19 问：谁是借款人？\n\n15:21:23 答：Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生。\n\n15:21:25 问：好的。您在他签署这些文件时在场吗？\n\n15:21:27 答：我不记得。\n\n15:21:30 问：好的。$21 million 贷款中有多少没有文件记录？\n\n15:21:42 答：我不记得。我无法给您确切数字。\n\nHarbach先生（Mr. Harbach）：好的。那么我们将——Scott，我们将请求 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（Golden Spring (New York) 有限公司）立即向我们提供该证人刚才所述的全部文件，即证实债务人从 Golden Spring (New York) 取得的 $21 million 诉讼贷款中任何部分的贷款协议。\n\nRosen先生（Mr. Rosen）：我明白该请求，我们将予以考虑。\n\nHarbach先生：好的。\n\n15:22:21 Harbach先生询问：\n\n15:22:23 问：Wang女士（Ms. Wang），您是否熟悉其中任何一笔贷款的条款，也就是诉讼贷款？\n\n15:22:36 答：它们是贷款。它们有利息。应当偿还。\n\n15:22:43 问：利率是多少？\n\n15:22:44 答：我记不清楚。我记不清楚。比如，2、3 percent。我记不清。\n\n15:22:56 问：Golden Spring (New York) 一方是谁就这些贷款的利率进行谈判？\n\n15:23:01 答：我和郭强先生，我们制定了它。\n\n15:23:06 问：谁与借款人 Ho Wan Kwok 先生就这些贷款的利率进行谈判？\n\n15:23:16 答：我不记得。\n\n15:23:18 问：您是否曾就这些贷款的利率与 Ho Wan Kwok 先生沟通？\n\n15:23:29 答：我不记得。\n\n15:23:32 问：所有贷款的利率都相同吗？\n\n15:23:38 答：据我所知，据我记得，是。\n\n15:23:39 问：就您的记忆而言，约 $21 million 的诉讼贷款总额是否大致正确？\n\n15:23:57 答：大约的数字——是。正确。在郭强先生和 Ho Wan Kwok 先生之间也有一些其他贷款。\n\n15:24:02 问：好的。\n\n15:24:05 答：所以，财务记录就是贷款协议，然后还有我们的贷款——\n\n15:24:21 问：好的。\n\n15:24:22 答：——协议。\n\nRosen先生：我可以问一下吗，David，您能否澄清一下。当您说有文件记录的贷款时，具体是指什么？\n\nHarbach先生：当然。我指的是，该证人先前在其证言中表示，部分贷款是书面的，并且存在贷款协议；因此，我是这样理解她的回答的。而且我——我理解有些贷款是书面的，有些不是。因此，当我说有文件记录的贷款时，我指的是存在由她和借款人签署的书面贷款协议的贷款。这是否有帮助？\n\nRosen先生：有。\n\n谢谢。\n\nHarbach先生：好的。\n\n15:25:09 Harbach先生询问：\n\n15:25:10 问：那么，Wang女士，这不会改变——我认为这不会改变您的任何回答。您明白我的意思吗？\n\n15:25:17 答：我回答了我的问题。那是我此刻所知的全部。\n\n15:25:22 问：好的。那么，仅为——仅为回顾并确保我理解正确。Golden Spring (New York) 向 Ho Wan Kwok 先生发放了大约 $21 million 的诉讼贷款；正确吗？\n\n15:25:39 答：正确。\n\n15:25:41 问：其中一些贷款——有文件记录，我指的是存在书面贷款协议；正确吗？\n\n15:25:55 答：正确。此外，我们的财务账簿上也有记录为贷款的票据。\n\n15:26:06 问：好的。然后，其中一些贷款没有——没有书面贷款协议；正确吗？\n\n15:26:16 答：但在我们的财务记录中，它作为贷款有文件记录；正确。\n\n15:26:20 问：我明白。我明白。但我的意思是，对于那些贷款，并不存在由您和 Ho Wan Kwok 先生签署、载有利率和正式条款的贷款协议；对吗？\n\n15:26:40 答：正确。\n\n第48页（第186—189页）\n\n15:21:54 Harbach先生：好的。那么，Scott，我们所请求的就是那些文件。\n\nRosen先生：我明白。\n\n谢谢。\n\n15:27:22 Harbach先生询问：\n\n15:27:23 问：好的。现在，Wang女士，关于口头贷款，是谁记录了它们？\n\n15:27:31 答：您说谁记录了它们是什么意思？为 Golden Spring 记录吗？\n\n15:27:34 问：是的，女士。我认为您刚才提到，即使是没有通过贷款协议形成文件记录的贷款，也被记录在 Golden Spring (New York) 的账簿上；对吗？\n\n15:27:47 答：正确。\n\n15:27:47 问：所以，我问的是谁在账簿上记录了它们？\n\n15:27:51 答：Golden Spring 的财务部门。\n\n15:27:55 问：好的。那是依照您的指示吗？\n\n15:27:59 答：正确。\n\n第190页 第192页\n\n15:28:00 问：您如何得知那些口头贷款的条款？\n\n15:28:04 答：我也是从郭强先生那里得知的。\n\n15:28:10 问：您本人是否参与过与 Ho Wan Kwok 先生就任何口头贷款进行谈判或发放任何口头贷款？\n\n15:28:22 答：我没有参加郭强先生与他父亲之间的谈话。没有，我没有。\n\n15:28:33 问：Ho Wan Kwok 先生是否曾向您请求过 Golden Spring 的贷款？\n\n15:28:36 答：我不记得。\n\n15:28:38 问：这是否意味着他有可能曾经请求过？\n\n15:28:40 答：我不记得。\n\n15:28:49 问：如果我此前问过您这个问题，敬请见谅。我确实不记得。\n\n15:29:00 问：从您先前的——\n\n15:26:57 Harbach先生：当然。\n\n15:26:59 Harbach先生询问：\n\n15:27:04 问：Golden Spring (New York) Limited 是否参与协助 Kwok 先生填写其破产财产清单或财务状况说明书？\n\n15:27:19 答：没有。\n\n15:27:20 问：那么 Kwok 先生的月度经营报告呢？您知道那是什么吗？\n\n15:27:22 答：知道。\n\n15:27:23 问：好的。Golden Spring (New York) 是否有任何人参与协助编制 Ho Wan Kwok 先生的月度经营报告？\n\n15:27:34 答：我们被要求整理他的生活费用。也就是说，我指示 Golden Spring 提供协助。\n\n15:27:35 问：好的。是谁向您提出该请求的？\n\n15:27:39 答：我记不清。可能是他的律师。我记不清。\n\n15:27:46 问：好的。如果我理解正确，您指示您的一名雇员提供协助？\n\n15:27:50 答：正确。\n\n15:27:50 Harbach先生：好的。而且我仅为记录在案说明，Scott，我不会问那个人是谁，因为我理解您会基于与此前相同的理由提出异议。而且我仅为记录在案说明，我仍不同意该异议。这样可以吗？\n\n15:31:26 Rosen先生：可以。\n\n15:31:27 Harbach先生询问：\n\n15:31:35 问：您知道 Verdolino & Lowey（Verdolino & Lowey 律师事务所）是什么吗？\n\n15:31:42 答：Verdolino Lowey。\n\n15:31:45 问：您是否曾听说过他们？\n\n15:31:48 答：没有。\n\n15:31:53 问：好的。您知道 Craig Jalbert（克雷格·贾尔伯特）是谁吗？\n\n15:31:53 答：我不知道这个名字。\n\n15:31:59 问：好的。\n\n15:31:59 答：Craig Jalbert。\n\n15:32:02 问：这从您先前的回答中可能显而易见。\n\n问：您是否曾与 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生交谈过\n\n回答，但请容我说完。\n\n问：关于任何诉讼贷款，无论是口头还是书面的？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：暂且不谈该人的姓名，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉（纽约）有限公司）是否有人员能够协助汇总和计算 Ho Wan Kwok 先生的生活费用，这是真的吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：您是否亲自参与协助郭先生填写其破产财产申报表及财务状况说明书？\n\nROSEN 律师（罗森）：反对。证人并非以其个人身份在此作证。我请您重新表述该问题。\n\n问：现在请暂时只聚焦于那些生活费用。\n\n可以吗？\n\n答：可以。\n\n49（第190—193页）\n\n问：郭先生是否曾向您提出任何请求，要求 Golden Spring (New York) 支付与其生活方式有关的费用？\n\n请原谅。\n\n答：我不记得，但有此可能。\n\n问：好的。我所问的是，比如说，“伊薇特，Golden Spring 需要支付我前往曼哈顿的车费”，或者“Golden Spring 需要支付我这套为出庭旅行所需的西装费用”——诸如此类的事情。\n\n他是否会向您提出这样的请求？\n\n答：我不记得。但他曾向我提出过一些请求，例如此前要求购买一些非常昂贵的家具，我记得是这样。\n\n而且我——显然，这超出了他的生活费用。\n\n我将此报告给 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生，Qiang Guo 先生予以拒绝——\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：——因此我也向他拒绝了该请求。\n\n问：对。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：我问的是日常事项，比如——不管怎样——您知道，我不介意告诉您，对于我们所有债权人以及我认为对于美国受托人而言，郭先生如何支付各项费用一直是一个真正的谜团。我们确实一直难以弄清楚这是如何发生的。\n\n因此，我希望您能够帮助我稍微理解一下，因为据他所述，Golden Spring (New York) Limited 支付所有这些费用。而且您是 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的总裁兼财务主管，我希望您能够帮助我们理解。\n\n因此，我知道我们此前谈过您审阅信用卡账单及——等等，但是，例如 Ho Wan Kwok 先生因某种原因需要前往曼哈顿，并且他需要一辆车。\n\n他会来找您吗？我是说，您说您负责 Golden Spring 的日常运营。\n\n他会来找您，还是给您发消息说，“嘿，我需要安排一辆车”？我的意思是，这如何运作？\n\n答：好的。就回答这个具体问题而言，作为一家公司总裁，我的意思是，我本来就不处理他这种非常小的请求；因此，Golden Spring 有安保人员，据您大概了解，先生，正如 Qiang 先生所说，那是一支团队，因为 Qiang 先生最关心的是其父亲的人身安全；因此，Ho Wan Kwok 与安保人员之间会进行沟通，以安排前往曼哈顿的行程；所以这种事情我无需介入，因为对我而言太小了。\n\n问：好的。那么其他日常生活所需又如何，比如在最近的一项程序中，美国受托人问到，如果他需要买一双鞋怎么办？\n\n请您向我们说明这一过程。\n\n答：我甚至——我的意思是，是的。我会审阅部分信用卡账单或账单，但我有财务人员。我的意思是，我不需要做财务工作。我甚至不记得经常看到他买鞋。我的意思是——\n\n问：他会买任何东西吗？\n\n答：会。\n\n他买——他买衣服，会。\n\n问：好的。那么他如何买衣服？\n\n答：我相信他从商店购买衣服。\n\n问：好的。他亲自去商店，还是在网上购物？\n\nHARBACH 律师（哈巴赫）：Scott，我保证我只是试图理解。我不会在这里无谓地纠缠。\n\nHARBACH 律师提问：\n\n问：请继续，Wang（王）女士。\n\n答：我不参与他的个人生活；所以我不能说。\n\n问：所以您不——您不知道他是喜欢到商店购物，还是在网上购物？\n\n答：我确实看到商店的账单，我核实。我让财务人员核实那是他的购买。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：我们会处理该事项；因此，我不需要跟着他——\n\n问：好。\n\n答：——去他去的地方；对吗？所以我不知道——\n\n问：不。\n\n我——我知道这一点。我并不是说您跟着他。\n\n我真正想了解的是，这笔交易是如何发生的？郭先生走进 Saks Fifth Avenue（萨克斯第五大道）并看到一套他想买的西装。\n\n我们就假设发生了这种情况。\n\n可以吗？\n\n然后他在里面，他说：“我喜欢那套西装。”他试穿后，效果很好，因此他想买下它。\n\n50（第194—197页）\n\n接下来发生什么？它如何从那里变成您所看到的一张账单上的项目？\n\n答：哦，这根本不常发生。这是第一点。而且此前确实发生过。比如，有时候我可以从安保人员的信用卡——借记卡——让我更正一下——上看到那项购买。然后，显然，我的财务人员会深入核实并确认是他进行了购买。但这种情况根本不常发生。\n\n问：好的。不过您确实提到他买衣服，对吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。那么请您举例说明他如何购买衣服。\n\n如果 Saks Fifth Avenue 的例子并不常发生，请告诉我实际会发生什么。\n\n答：他只是不经常买衣服，不只是 Saks Fifth Avenue 的鞋子。\n\n问：郭先生有信用卡吗？\n\n答：据我所知，他没有。至少 Golden Spring 从未给过他信用卡。\n\n问：他有借记卡吗？\n\n答：Golden Spring 没有给过他借记卡。\n\n问：他购买的物品如何会出现在您审阅的账单上？请告诉我这是如何发生的。\n\n第198页\n\n答：就他的衣服而言，我知道，比如 Qiang Guo 先生，他在曼哈顿有一些商店。当他在曼哈顿时，他——他——我的意思是，他经常在那里购物，有时我会看到商店的账单，显然财务人员需要对其进行核实。否则，就是 Qiang Guo 先生购买。但比如说，他父亲以前也购买过；这种情况以前发生过；因此——也就是说，据我理解，Qiang Guo 先生照顾他的父亲。\n\n问：所以 Qiang Guo 先生会为其父亲购买某物，并由 Golden Spring 提供资金。\n\nGolden Spring 将如何核实？通过打电话给 Qiang Guo 先生并询问他吗？\n\n答：有时我们会这样做，是的。\n\n问：好的。而当 Qiang Guo 先生如您所说住在英国时，这会如何改变事情？当其儿子在英国时，Ho Wan Kwok 先生如何购买某物？\n\n答：您所说的“改变事情”是什么意思？我的意思是，商店显然认识 Qiang Guo 先生，无论他是否在纽约；因此，父亲来到那里并在那些商店购物。我的意思是，我不知道您的问题是什么，先生。\n\n问：好的。我认为您确实知道我的问题，而且这确实不难。但似乎确实很难得到答案。\n\nHo Wan Kwok 先生如何购买物品，以及他想购买并购买的某物如何会最终出现在供您审阅的账单上？您已经给了我一个例子。\n\n您说，有时 Qiang Guo 先生会购买某物，然后该物品会出现在供您审阅和核实的账单上；对吗？\n\n答：不。\n\n那不是我的回答。您误解我了，先生。\n\n问：好的。请解释。\n\n答：既然您一路都在误解我，而我觉得您并不理解这一点。抱歉。我会使用我的翻译员——\n\n问：当然。\n\n答：——我的意思是，来帮助我。\n\n问：当然。\n\nHARBACH 律师：为明确记录，Johnston（约翰斯顿）女士，问题是我试图了解，当 Ho Wan Kwok 先生想要购买某物时，从 Ho Wan Kwok 先生决定购买某物，到该物品出现在 Wang 女士看到的账单上，这一过程是如何发生的？\n\n翻译员：（问题已翻译。）\n\n证人：（通过翻译员）\n\n好的。首先，当我说我审阅账单时，那仅涉及 Ho Wan Kwok 先生购买衣服和鞋子。Qiang Guo 先生有一些他经常光顾的商店；因此，如果他的父亲在那里购物，商店就会知道将账单寄给 New York Golden Spring；换言之，他父亲的购买是在 Qiang Guo 先生的档案名下。\n\n我认为您可能没有理解我的意思。这就是我想让翻译员为我翻译的原因。\n\nHARBACH 律师提问：\n\n问：非常感谢。\n\n我确实理解那个例子。\n\n那杂货呢？\n\n答：（用英语）杂货，我的意思是，他住在其妻子的房子里；因此，如果有任何需要购买的杂货，那是供他们两人使用的；因此，Golden Spring 被要求支付的，是例如 Ho Wan Kwok 先生从其妻子处购买的杂货，即一般性购买；因此，我的意思是，丈夫和妻子住在一起。他住在其妻子的——\n\n51（第198—201页）\n\n证人：我不知道。\n\n2 住宅。这没有道理，比如，他买他自己的物品，单独账户。\n\n问：我明白。\n\n我只是问食品杂货是如何付款的。\n\n答：也是由 Golden Spring（纽约金泉）支付。\n\n问：与之前相同的问题。\n\n他们是否只是去食品杂货店，然后食品杂货店将账单寄给 Golden Spring？还是他们在网上购买食品杂货？这是如何运作的？\n\n答：食品杂货，大多数是用借记卡购买。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：也在线购买，是的。\n\n问：好的。那么即使该购买是在线进行的，也需要使用某种卡，例如借记卡或信用卡；对吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n问：好的。谁使用那张卡？\n\n答：谁使用那张卡？\n\n他们——家人。我的意思是，他的妻子也使用。\n\n第202页\n\n问：他是否曾经使用——\n\n答：我的意思是——\n\n问：他是否曾经使用该卡？\n\n答：我认为没有。他根本不懂英语，所以——\n\n问：我的意思是，嗯，我不知道您是否需要懂英语才能使用信用卡或借记卡。\n\n他是否曾经亲自使用该卡购物？\n\n答：您问的是哪个时间段，以及通过何种购物方式？\n\n问：您——\n\n答：如果您问的是在线购物，他不懂英语。\n\n我的意思是，您必须能够阅读英语才能在线购物；对吗？\n\n问：那是否——\n\n答：因此，就此而言，我可以确认他不会。\n\n问：——嗯，第一，我相当确定有中文网站。\n\n第二，我们就以食品杂货这个例子为限。\n\n他是否曾经使用信用卡或借记卡购买食品杂货？\n\n罗森先生（Scott Rosen）：反对。\n\n罗森先生：她多次作证称，他并未获授权成为该卡的用户，并且她已经多次回答了这个问题。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生（David Harbach）：我不认为她说过——这不是关于他是否为获授权用户的问题。我相信她说的是，他从未使用过该卡。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生询问：\n\n问：他的妻子使用吗？\n\n答：使用什么？\n\n问：使用借记卡或信用卡购买食品杂货？\n\n答：有这种可能。\n\n问：您知道是或不是吗？\n\n答：我的意思是，我不住在他们家里；对吗？谁在购买食品杂货？就我这边而言，我无法看出，例如，一笔 Amazon（亚马逊）购买，或例如一笔 Whole Foods（全食超市）购买。谁使用那些卡？我需要查明。\n\n问：好的。那么听起来，根据您刚才所说，可能是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的妻子使用，也可能是 Ho Wan Kwok 先生使用，不是吗？\n\n答：我在这里不给您答案，因为我不知道。\n\n问：这正是我要问的。您不知道。\n\n第204页\n\n问：根据您在账单上所看到的，您不知道是谁使用了该卡，对吗？您知道吗？\n\n答：您说的是食品杂货？\n\n问：我说的是您刚才举的例子，Whole Foods 或其他什么。\n\n当您在账单上看到该项时，您刚才说您不知道谁使用该卡；对吗？\n\n答：家人使用该卡。我知道。家人使用该卡。\n\n问：当然。当然。\n\n而 Ho Wan Kwok 先生是该家庭的一员，不是吗？\n\n答：对。\n\n但他根本不懂英语。\n\n问：好的。他的妻子呢？\n\n答：他的妻子怎么了？\n\n问：他的妻子懂英语吗？\n\n答：我认为不懂。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：好的。请给我三十秒。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生询问：\n\n问：感谢您的耐心。希望我通过那次休息为我们节省了一点时间。再问几个补充问题，我想我们就结束了。\n\n您如何理解 Ho Wan Kwok 先生将如何偿还 $21 million 的诉讼贷款？\n\n答：我不了解。我的意思是，如果他赢得案件，他需要偿还那些贷款，然后，我的意思是，我假定会取得一些成功，然后他应当偿还贷款。这就是我全部的理解。\n\n问：是否有一辆由 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）所有、停放在 Kwok 先生和 Kwok 女士住所的汽车？\n\n答：我不记得。正如我所说，我不是汽车方面的人。我的意思是，Qiang Guo（郭强）先生会处理汽车那一部分。\n\n问：那么，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）不是为 Ho Wan Kwok 先生支付一名司机的费用吗？\n\n答：我们支付雇员费用，是的。\n\n问：好的。我的问题不是关于是什么样的车。\n\n我只是问，是否有一辆汽车和一名司机，在 Kwok 先生需要时随时供他使用。\n\n答：我的意思是，Qiang Guo 先生会——确实会为其父亲租一辆车，然后 Golden Spring 支付司机费用。这是我可以确认的。\n\n问：好的。您是否亲自知晓他们居住的住所由谁所有？\n\n第206页\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：别担心，Scott。\n\n我不会在这里待很久。\n\n证人：您是在问亲自知晓吗？\n\n哈尔巴赫先生询问：\n\n问：我是在问您是否知道。\n\n罗森先生：如果您知道。这要求作出是或否的回答。\n\n证人：我并不亲自知晓。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：好的。Scott，我将提出一项请求，补充我们先前对贷款文件的请求。\n\n我还将请求 Golden Spring (New York) 请立即向我们提供证人提及的账簿和记录中的注记，该等注记证明用于诉讼的口头贷款。\n\n您明白我在说什么吗？\n\n罗森先生：我现在只是在做笔记。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：好的。\n\n罗森先生：我相信我明白您的问题，我们将对此予以考虑。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：好的。这些是——只是——请稍等。\n\n问：您曾多次提到 Golden Spring (New York) 有足够资金继续其日常运营。\n\nGolden Spring (New York) 该等日常运营的运营预算是多少？比如说，年度预算大约是多少。\n\n答：年度将是任何——我的意思是，运营是指支付租赁费用、支付雇员薪酬以及办公用品、家具，一切费用。\n\n问：我问的是，是的，正如您先前所说的，您会归入日常运营的一切费用。\n\n答：我正在回答您的问题，先生。\n\n年度租赁及一切费用，至少——至少最低限度，在 2 至 3 million 之间。\n\n问：好的。好的。这就是我所有的问题。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：我不知道是否有任何其他一直坚持到此时的律师想要提问。\n\n第208页\n\n法庭录像员：听起来不像是。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：好的。那么，Wang 女士，非常感谢您今天抽出时间并耐心回答我的问题。\n\n法庭录像员：现在于下午 3:58 停止记录。\n\n至此，Yvette Wang（王燕萍）作为 Golden Spring (New York) 的 30(b)(6) 证人所作的今日证言结束。\n\n所使用的媒体单元总数为一个，将由 Veritext Legal Solutions（Veritext 法律解决方案公司）保管。\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：我是 O'Melveny & Myers（奥美律师事务所）的 David Harbach，代理 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）。\n\n我希望以一份附加证物补充证言证物，该证物将被称为证物 6。\n\n（证言证物编号 6 已标记以供识别。）\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：该证物是今日证人的证言通知。我已与证人的律师罗森先生交谈，他不反对将其作为证物加入。\n\n罗森先生：我们能否将其——将其放到屏幕上？\n\n哈尔巴赫先生：可以。可以。\n\n我的同事现在正在处理。\n\n法庭记录员：罗森先生，您是否需要一份记录副本？\n\n罗森先生：需要。\n\n法庭记录员：您是否需要一份速记稿？\n\n罗森先生：需要。\n\n副本今晚送达。\n\n（下午 4:28）\n\n--00000--\n\n第207页\n\n加利福尼亚州）\n\n）SS.\n\n克恩县\n\n本人，B. Suzanne Hull（B. 苏珊娜·赫尔），加利福尼亚州持有证书编号 13495 的认证速记员，特此证明：上述证言中所称的证人 YAN PING WANG（王燕萍）已由本人依法宣誓；该证言于 Tuesday, April 12, 2022，在本文件首页所载明的时间和地点录取。\n\n在录取证言时，证人的陈述由本人以速记方式记录，随后在本人监督下由计算机转录；上述文本为该证人所作证言的真实、正确记录。\n\n根据 Federal Rule 30(e)，已请求审阅记录。\n\n本人进一步证明，本人既非该诉讼任何一方的律师，亦与任何一方不存在任何关系，也不以任何方式对其结果或结局具有利害关系。\n\n第209页\n\n加利福尼亚州）\n\n）ss.\n\n克恩县）\n\n本人，YAN PING WANG（王燕萍），特此证明：\n\n本人已阅读上述证言；\n\n本人已对本证言作出在形式和／或实质方面为使其真实、正确所必要的修改；\n\n在作出该等修改后，本人特此在该证言上签署本人姓名。\n\n本人在伪证处罚的约束下声明，上述内容真实、正确。\n\n于 2022 年 _____ 月 _____ 日，在加利福尼亚州 _____ 签署。\n\n第210页\n\n日期为 2022 年 April 12 日，于加利福尼亚州 Bakersfield（贝克斯菲尔德）。\n\nB. Suzanne Hull，C.S.R. No. 13495\n\n第212页\n\n第211页\n\n第213页\n\nCase 22-50073\n\nDoc 398-1\n\nFiled 04/27/22\n\n95\n\nEntered 05/19/22 11:20:43\n\nYAN PING WANG\n\ngoldenspringny@protonmail.com\n\nApril 12, 2022\n\n更正表\n\n关于：HO WAN KWOK\n\nAPRIL 12, 2022，YAN PING WANG，JOB NO. 5181285\n\n上述所引记录已被\n\n关于：HO WAN KWOK\n\n页码\n\n行号\n\n修改\n\n理由\n\n由 Veritext Legal Solutions（Veritext 法律解决方案公司）完成，并且——\n——\n7 页码\n行号\n更改\n笔录审阅按如下方式办理：\n8 8\n_ 根据加利福尼亚州法典（CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)）——联系 Veritext\n9 ——\n9 原因\n以安排在\n10 10 页码\n行号\n更改\nVeritext 办公室审阅原始笔录的时间。\n11 11\n_ 根据加利福尼亚州法典（CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)）——锁定的 .PDF\n12 ——\n——\n12 原因\n笔录——证人应审阅笔录，并且\n13 13 页码\n行号\n更改\n\n在下附的勘误页上作出任何必要的更正，\n注明更正所在的页码和行号。\n15 14\n15 原因\n证人随后应在勘误页和伪证处罚\n16 ——\n——\n16 页码\n行号\n更改\n页上签名并注明日期，并将填妥的页数交还给所有\n17 17\n出庭律师，期限为\n18 18 原因\n在证言录取时确定的期限，或《民事诉讼法典》规定的期限。\n19 ——\n——\n19 页码\n行号\n更改\n_ 根据律师的约定放弃适用《加利福尼亚州民事诉讼法典》——\n20 20\n原始笔录应按在证言录取时确定的方式交付签署\n21 21 原因\n\n。 22\n\n_ 放弃签署——在证言录取时放弃了阅阅及签署。 23\n24 24 证人\n日期\n\n第 214 页 25\n\n_X_ 请求联邦阅阅及签署（FRCP 30(e)(l)(B)）——锁定的 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2:23\n12:00\n111:25 31:3,7,20 113:18 177:8 184:9\n21 210-8\n4:28\n112:14\n12:08 117:14 123:10 186:4,13 187:17\n187:21 188:24\n7:7213:1\n12th 168:8 206:1 5\n6:9\n130 2016 19:321:7 212 5:3 6:10 146:11\nn\n13495 1:25 212:7 24:4,5,5 25:1 2:8,8,18,18\n22-50073 1:87:14 166:23 167:9,12\n213:4 2017 25:23 28:11 50\n146:16,17\n166:8 168:15\n\n514-2000\n3:7 109:5\n接受 告知\n87:9 152:1,4,6 168:2\n\n214:5\n5181285 可接受的 11:16 134:22 148:3 171:11,12 172:15\n216:2 125:25 150:8 159:10 179:14 190:16\n55 4:23 160:1\n访问 103:3,7,13 同意 135:2,9\n6 104:6 意见 137:3 178:21\n1:16 5:9,13 7:9\n6 账户 124:25 111:20 182:12 181:14 183:24,24\n9:19 20:5,12 26:2 125:8,11,14,22 186:17 207:23 协议 137:16\n26:11 27:5 37:6 126:22 127:1 事务 191:22 144:18 145:10,17\n38:6 44:20 65:19 128:4,6 202:3 192:6 145:22 146:8,21\n209:8,16,17 124:12\n账户 宣誓书 4:23 146:25 147:8\n第 64 个 7:3 184:20 124:21 158:22 43:19 56:17 57:6 160:25 162:11\n185:3 190:3 准确的 29:22 58:5 59:9,10,12,17 165:23 179:25\n6:6\n65 31:4,5,5,11 51:4 60:10,12,14 61:13 181:13 188:10\n7 76:1,4,13 61:25 62:5,8,16 189:5.10.15.22.25\n首字母缩略词 132:12 63:10,11,13,21,24 190:18\n\n2:7,17 诉讼\n212:22 64:1,13,21 65:5,9 协议\n728-5831\n2:18 行动\n127-2 65:25 66:9 67:5 186:12 188:6\n8 已启用\n103:16 67:23 68:4.8 啊\n148:1\n142:23 143:2,11\n8 活动 128:24 87:16 91:11 92:21 前面 20:13\n143:21,24 144:3 168:15\n广告 宣誓书 58:25 107:15 197:2\n146:10 增加 209:22 60:20 61:5 64:24 机场 35:24\n\n213:3 额外的 209:15 关联\n26:7 aisling 2:15\n\n166:21,22 地址 27:2 关联关系 7:22 58:11\n别名\n\n2:23 3:12 71:14,18,20 害怕\n170:9 被提醒\n157:21\nல் 184:23 185:2,7,11 112:20\n下午 136:6 181:12\n对齐\n已处理 170:17 181:11 已对齐 136:5\nರಿ\n6:6 管理人 12:10 15:24\nमുറ്റും 137:8 165:23,23\n\n3:11 47:9 51:25 52:15 17:19 25:14 29:20 165:23 178:23,24\n7:2,6\n9:15 54:21 55:2 58:8 30:3,20 36:6,6 181:18\nਰ 联盟 2:11 5:9\n58:16,19 68:1,6,17 37:17 44:16 45:12\n7:2.6\n上午 68:19,25,25 69:6 49:11 60:17 61:19 7:11,25 8:12,14\n遵守 165:2 69:11 87:18 88:12 62:22 64:22 65:8 9:20 174:22 175:7\n88:16 89:13 90:16 65:17 79:24 80:8 209:13\n能力\n9:2,12 91:2,14 95:6,9 80:24 85:21 96:4 amazon 204:17\n能力\n13:15 采纳 65:17 96:12.12.14 97:13 愿意 112:9\n能够 10:23,23 31:9\n64:14 168:23 提前 117:11 98:18 103:18 美国人\n47:15\n173:14 174:24 意见 133:6 104:21 119:17 51:9,17\n175:8 203:15 182:21,21 120:11 121:13 amurray 2:19\n建议 138:7 143:4 132:8 135:16 公告\n绝对地 84:19 143:4 182:19 138:17,20 140:16 174:10\n101:17,19 200:19\n200:21 140:16,24 145:1,3\n\n年度\n168: 18 回答\n12:3 大约的 105:6,11,15,18,25\n\n172:24 208:9,10 119:24 156: 11 125: 10,21 126:21 119:21 121:7\n208: 18 208: 17 大约 133:1141:6 143:6\n回答\n6:2 11: 14 回答\n97: 17 21:6 24: 11 65: 10 144:7 160:25\n12:14 13:15 16:12 188: 18 73:20,25 113:16 164:25 169:8\n20: 11 22:9, 10 任何人\n164:22 127:6,16 129:13 177 :22 178: 11, 17\n23:2126:16 29:12 无论如何\n94: 13 130:3 152:4 177:7 180: 11 182:4\n29:13 31:2133:14 183:2 187:16,19,20 191:9,14 196:7\n33:15 35:9,16,17 分开\n156: 1 188:24 208:9 询问\n27:3,4 31 :4\n35:22 37:2, 15 公寓\n72: 14 四月\n1:18 4:17 7:2 49:5, 16, 18 50:7,8\n38:4 42:8,10,16 72:21 7:7 29: 14,23 60:10 61:4,8,11\n45:4 47:5,7,9,16 道歉\n76: 17 30: 11, 18 31:3, 7 63:1,12 64:17\n47:23 50:4 52:4 174:9 191: 14 61:18 212:10 67:4 68:21 69:3,5\n52: 19 54:24 55:4 道歉\n87: 13 213:1214:3,5 70:6 71:3 72:24\n61:6,9 63:17,19 明显的\n124: 13 建筑 80:9 81:12 88:15\n64:8 66:2,5,6,15 136:4 118: 11 98:8,21 102:20\n67:9,11,12,16 显然\n168:9 arethusa\n147: 14 107:4,5,7 110:14\n74: 12, 13, 16, 19,22 173:6 争辩\n136: 10, 13 110: 17,19 112:22\n74:25 76:23 77: 11 出庭\n48:5 争辩\n66:3 116:9 124: 1,13,14\n77:12,19 78:6,9,9 出庭情况\n2: 1 安排\n141: 17 127: 16 132: 10\n79:10,11,16 84:1,5 3:1 7:22 196:3 134:3 135:18\n84:25 88: 19,20,24 出庭的\n214: 18 已安排\n114: 15 138: 18 143 :20\n90: 12 92: 14 94: 18 215:7 114:16,19 141:16 146:2 155:12\n95: 19 97: 15 99:2 指定的\n32: 14 159:3,7,21 156:3 160: 13\n116:4, 15,20,22,23 34:9, 12,20 38:22 安排\n37:5 168: 1 169:20,22\n119:23 122: 10, 18 45:24 46:2,3,5 162: 14 176:4 179:7,7,8,11\n126:24 129:9 49:4 50:23 97:4,8 安排中\n111:6 179: 13 180:3,17\n130: 11,25 132: 10 97:12 122:19 被逮捕\n48: 11 182:11,15,18,21\n132:14 133:8,9 166:3 173:4,7,16 84:6 190:21 194:6,22\n134:24 140:4 174: 18 180:25 到达\n143: 11,21 199: 15 202:5\n154: 19 158:5 182:5 143:24 144:3 203:10,13 206:18\n159:20 160: 15 感谢\n67: 14 归因于\n86: 19 207:3,6 208:14\n161: 1 165:20 157:25 亚洲\n2: 11 5:9 9:20 询问\n106:15\n170: 11,22 175: 10 适当的\n41 :25 旁边\n44: 10 127:5 方面\n165:7\n182: 1 183 :22,25 44:22 157:24 128:4,6 175:2 资产\n130:14,22\n183:25 188:6 批准\n37:5 193: 17 资产\n127:6,17\n193: 16 200:3,12 107: 19,23 被询问\n21:8 22:5 128:6,23 129:4\n204:22 207:8 批准\n146: 12 48:6 53: 11 62:22 分配\n46:9\n已回答\n31: 11 已批准\n107: 14 78:25 79:2,9 58:23\n62: 12 184:8 204:4 159:2,6 177:25 82:10,15,19 87:17 协助\n89: 16 92: 18\n178:2 180:7 88:21 95:8 105:4 192:20 193: 19\n\n[助理 - birnbaum]\n\n助理\n88:25 授权\n104: 13 123: 10 126:7 开始\n47:5 74: 10\n\n89:10,18 92:23 获授权\n104: 16 149:17 170:14 代表\n137:6\n93:2,9,14,19 95:1 164: 19 168: 14 174:6,20 186:23 166:14\n95:10 204:3,6 206:4,6 beijing\n86:14,16\n协助\n15:25 汽车\n110:21 背景\n26:7 86:24\n89:24 汽车 47: 13 155:2 相信\n13 :22\n协助\n192:4 111: 19 bakersfield\n213 :2 14:14 18:3 21:6\n假定\n101:12,13 可获得的\n91:19 余额\n125:10,22 24: 1, 1,22 31: 12\n101: 14 109:9 92:2 146:5 206: 19 126:21 127: 19,22 32: 12 35: 13 42:23\n188: 18 206:5 大道\n197:21 127:24 174:23 69:20 80: 1,25\n假定的\n46: 12 198:16,19 银行\n124:12,18,21 81: 16 90:7 94:20\n47: 19 49: 18 避免\n184:22 124:25 125:7,8,14 97:4,8 99: 1,23\n169: 15 185:6 125:22 126:22 104: 16,20 105:9\n假定\n166:9 避免\n71:22 127:1,5,21128:4,6 113:12 114:2,20\n附上\n146: 14 知悉\n11:2 108:12 128:9,10 129:17 117:21 128:8\n出席\n191:7 108: 14,14 156: 10 129:20 158:22 141: 14 143: 14\n注意\n21: 10 164:9 166:6 171: 1 174:23 144:25 156:8,9\n84:4 145: 19 177:9 178:4\nf--------------------, 银行业务\n175:6 157:4 163 :5\n146:23 b 破产\n1: 1 170:15 172:14,17\n律师\n2: 12,22 C-----b-1-: 1-6-,2-5 -4 :_9_5_: 3______, 7: 12 3 6:4, 16 3 7: 6 177: 17 182:25\n3:5,11 63:25 68:9 5: 13 7:9 9: 19 20:5 48:24 94:7,20 185: 1 194: 14\n134: 10 138:25 130:20 191:21 196:19 204:5,7\n139: 1 140: 13 20:12 26:2,11\n27:5 37:6 38:6 192:5 205: 18 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8:2\n111:16 112:16\n\n[bit - cbshealaw.com]\n\n位 30:25 37:8 2:4 8:7,10\nbrown 计算\n70:4 198:23 202:13,19\n\n46:25 162:14 18:6 计算 193:19 202:19,20,22,23\n195.4 brownrudnick.c 计算\n70:7 203:3,7,7,8,23,24\n归咎\n86:3 2:9,9 10:5\n加利福尼亚州 204:3,11,11 205:2\n举报人\n117:18 bsilverberg 2:9 211:1,15 212:1,6 205:7,8,9\n账簿\n34:2 189:8 预算 208:7,9 213:2 卡片 102:16,22\n账簿\n190:18,22 建造 118:21 致电 16:6,20 28:15 102:23 103:1\n207:16 174:19 43:3 95:25 102:8 204:18\n借入\n177:17 建筑物\n171:5 称为 8:24 9:9,19 照顾 96:1,4 98:16\n177:19\n借款人 业务\n24:24 14:18 39:5 86:13 98:25 99:5,6\n185:23,24,25 48:9 74:24 79:8 89:17 93:19 100:11,16 138:5\n187:6 188:10 79:15 80:5,11,12 112:23 114:20 139:2 141:17\n老板 30:7 78:17.22 80:15,18 81:20 209:16 143:5 148:4,6,11\n78:24,25 81:2,6 97:15 114:7,9,10 致电 76:11 77:9 148:16 154:11,14\n86:16,18,20,21 114:11 115:15,19 199-15 159:11 160:1,5,10\n底部\n47:4 115:20 116:4 电话 52:2 155:18 160:13,18 161:2\n167:19,22 117:11,16,19 207:7 161:13,19,23,24\n头脑\n63:7 118:1 119:9 候选人\n154:13 162:4,17,22 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106:22\n决定 11:21 13:25 14:4\n资质证明 9:25 36:8 73:17 104:5 107:11 14:10 15:8,12,20\n10:8 168:3,9 214:16 已决定\n183 - 1 16:10,24 17:2,12\n信用\n99:21 215:5 216:24 183:6\n决定 17:16,20 18:7.19\n101:21,25 102:14 日期为 4:16,24 5:7 决定\n134:20 19:7 20:1,8 21:7\n102:16,17,22,23 5:15 73:16 213:1 135:1,8,12,14,17 28:17 29:17 37:4\n102:25 129:4 日期\n14:2,2 21:5 135:19,21,24 37:18 38:6 43:5\n195:10 196:11 女儿 84:9 136:3 137:3,5,6,14 47:24 48:2,25\n198:6,20 202:20 大卫 2:11 7:24 137:17,18,25 55:10 65:19 73:17\n203:7,23 204:11 10:20 65:12 116:2 142:19 143:8 76:20 80:25 95:8\n债权人 2:11,21 153:15 156:9 152:8,10 153:19 95:15 96:17 109:5\n7:11 9:20 128:24 157:22 187:23 154:3,22 164:19 116:12 125:18\n债权人 3:10 8:6 209:12 130:15,18 133:17\n194:25 日 49:3,6,7 50:15 165:10 179:5,8,20\n180:20 181:11,20 133:21 134:5\n127:2\n贷方 69:22 109:2 181:21 183:12 145:13 156:21\n75:7 127:19,20 139:25 184:2 201:1 162:13 163:1\n克里斯特尔\n1:25 213:4 140:1 145:21 142:14\n决定\n速记员 163:7,10 168:15 142:17 164:2 166:23 209:15,17\n文化 49:23,24 173:15 194:22,22 209:20 211:6,8,11\n49:24 195:15,15 196:5,5 178:25 212:9,10,12\n当前 45:1 208:15,15 211:14 211:12\n声明 214:19,22,24\n125:10 129:3 213:1 146:20,25\n违约 215:8,10\n148:17 150:5,19 de\n2:13 3:7 147.8 证言笔录\n11:2\n151:24 153:3 交易 195:21 被告\n28:9 14:24\n目前 124:14 206:11 确定地\n59:22 描述 85:15\n150:2 152:18 辩论 125:19 特拉华州 4:21 5:4 92:23 174:15\n156:4,7 157:2,4 借记\n102:24 103:4 167:16 168:4,22 175:16 179:3\n190:3 103:7,13 104:6,10 171:9 描述的 68:22\n104:2\n可爱 104:15,22,24 延迟 19:12 44:6 69:670:17 91:22\n105:1 198:7,23 已交付 210:7 117:12 120:14\n202:12,19 203:7 58:4\ndep 124:22 186:11\n203:24 204:11\n[描述 - 雇员]\n\n描述\n4:11 直接 21:10 84:4 讨论\n126:1 司机\n35:10\n\n5:2 91:4 158:5 140:21 141:2 放弃\n19:10\n187:5\n设计的 指示 27:7 讨论\n174:21 16:5\n应付\n设计师\n118:11 192:15,20 显示\n132:4 挖掘\n169:8\n36:15\n细节 方向 82:2 不予理会 125:2 正式地 9:1,11,21\n64:23 105:12 117:17 190:24 地区 1:2 7:12 168:13,20 212:9\n113:15 147:2 直接地 99:22 198.8\n深入研究 职责 26:18,23\n153:3 181:16 100:8,9 101:1 多元化的 45:15 44:17 45:7 46:4\n确定 103.24 110.10 114:11 69:6 77:23 169:15\n214:18,22 215:7 159:4,8,22 177:18 部门\n1:3 7:13 职责 27:2 149:9\n开发 115:18 董事 4:19 28:9 文件 20:5,7 居住\n196:23\n117:15 174:21 32:14 38:18,19,22 21:24 28:14 43:16 住所 72:9,10\n设备 42:23,25 43:24 43:18,22 44:2 e\n2:14\n达尔巴赫 45:25 46:13 47:20 56:18 61:13 62:24\n词典\n60:9 49:5 56:9 97:20 63:9 167:1.4 4:1,9 38:14,23\ne\n39:9 147:15\n差异\n101:8 98:3 110:19 123:7 169:8,12,14 170:2 148:25 212:18\n176:17 134:19 142:6 171:8 172:21\n不同 175:13 181:19 文件材料 214:9,12 215:1\n120:14 127:15 董事 34:16 170:21 216:3,3,3\n较早 47:1 53:11\n136:18,20 166:2 37:10 148:18 有文件证明的 77:22 87:14 99:9\n175:23 168:20 187:21,25 188:1,8 118:5 158:22\n困难 195:2 不同意\n129:8 189:4,12 190:17\n浸入 37:5,11 42:3 156:22 158:7 文件 15:16 176:15 182:9\n188:4 193:15\n42:13 66:12 94:21 183:5,9 184:4 15:18 166:16\n125:15 130:20 193:1 169:11 170:7 195:9 207:12\n208:16\n131:22,23 132:1,4 不同意 137:13 184:15 185:12,14\n132:9,11,23 134:7 179.15 180.19 186:11 190:3,7 39:16\n缓解\n134:8,21 135:2,9 183:1,11 207:13 7:3 184:20\n东部\n136:18,23 137:4 分歧 进行 11:21 45:10 190:3\n137:18 138:3,19 179:19 181:22 45:11 80:22 93:5 14:19.19\n东区\n高效 87:15\n139:2,5,14 140:12 182:3 115:21 117:17\n140:21 142:21,23 分歧 128:1 141:6 八 83:19,22\n84.2\n144:5,11,18 145:9 179:23 181:3 160:19\n145:17,21 146:8 消失 48:11 美元 179:1,9,12 十八日 72:20\n任一\n16:13 38:7\n146:21,25 147:2,8 披露 124:24,24 179:20,21 180:21\n147:19 158:18 150:10 183:13 184:3 48:10 59:22 63:19\n168:20\n当选\n159:2,6,14,16 披露\n16:12 起草 58:18\n160:25 162:11,13 42:11 63:25 68:8 受雇\n36:1\n162:23 163:11,15 披露\n130:15 171:5\n钻探 雇员 35:14,20\n176:17 177:3 130:23 194:8\n驾驶 78:15,16,18 79:4\n180:7 81:9,15 84:13\n85:19,23,24 86:4,6\n[雇员 - 家庭]\n\n123:7 151:12,17 遗产 47:15 51:9 44:10 46:18,21 延长 37:13 38:8\n\n153:3 154:13 51:17 114:10 47:6 55:9,10,19 延长 176:10\n155:7 156:10 115:20 117:22,24 56:2,4,9,13 57:1 185-8\n额外\n雇员 34:21 117:25 118:9,11 62:5,16,23 64:9 2:12\n眼睛\n37:10 48:10 78:15 181:4 182:6 67:5,19,21 73:11 f\n151:13 156:6,12 183:15,19 184:5 83:13,15 87:16,23 f\n116:22 147:15\n157:1,2 158:3 68:12\n等 87:24 88:1,2 91:4 促成 118:12\n192:20 206:15 146:19,24\n事件 91:5,6 166:20,23 事实 50:22 80:16\n208:12 147:7 167:9,12 171:17 80:20 89:4 123:2\n雇主 153:5,17 每个人 19:11 172:8 209:15,16 169:17,22\n153:19 154:3,7,20 163:19 173:24 209:17,22 因素 153:19\n154:25 155:6 证明 207:17 证物 5:1 19:15 154:3\n获授权 71:14 184:23\n准确 20:16 209:15 32:8 166:9\n事实\n142:14 恰好 98:17 存在\n145:18 失败 168:18\n经受\n208:24 180:15 115:18\n扩大 172:24\n129:7\n从事 询问 4:3 122:15\n预期 60:18 72:23\n公平\n8:25,25\n英语 10:17 124:10 158:18,21 74:1 90:6 94:14\n9:10,10 10:10 接受询问\n14 - 5 预期 50:12 162:20 170:5\n11:3,5,6,7,11,25 94:6\n例如 预期的\n184:10 173:17\n29:25 38:23 39:22 95:23 99:3 102:2 169:6\n预期 熟悉 144:5,11\n40:16 50:2 55:16 102:5,6 105:10 迅速 37:13 146:19 186:20\n62:25 63:25 79:19 106:19 108:11 费用\n100:11 家庭\n86:25\n86:4 98:10 144:4 143:6 179:5 192:15 193:20,23 家人 24:24 29:11\n144:19 201:20 183:10,23 184:2,2 194:3 29:23 30:6,9,10,13\n203:4,7,14,15 184:7 198:14,16 昂贵\n108:6,9 30:17,19 31:2,15\n205:14,17 200:7 201:18 194:14 31:18,20 48:9\n确保\n98:24 203:22 45:1\n经验 52:1,17,23 54:22\n98:6\n确保了 例子\n182:3,5 161:24 58:12,17 68:2,7\n98:4\n确保 182:10,16 205:4 解释 20:4 41:21 81:11 84:8 85:6,6\n企业\n118:15 超过\n20:11 64:5 75:3 151:8 85:7,11,25 86:5,6\n175:17 15:11 56:5\n借口 177:13 200:14 86:12,17 87:7\n整个 48:8 84:17 58:5 128:3 163:18 已解释 93:7 91:15,20 95:7\n85:7 129:15 155:7 194:4 175:6 176:16 113:6,7 115:16\n164:18 170:14 已执行\n65:10 180:25 182:4 118:3,4,7,22 119:6\n174:19 211:14 183:17 119:7,8,9,19,22\n勘误 214:14,16 执行 166:13 解释 26:3 120:12,15,17,23\n215:3,5 证物 4:11,12,16 探索 42:19 3:5 121:3,8,13,15,17\n107:18\n升级 4:19,23 5:2,3,3,9 116:3 121:17,23,24\n143:8 19:6,7 20:15 探索\n44:23 122:22 123:21\n确立 66:11 28:17,20 32:20,21 65:24 124:5 157:17\n33:8 35:2 43:5 164:16,17,23\n\n[家人 - 十四]\n\n176:10,10 181:16 数字 26:9 111:10 完成 173:25 遵循 32:4 102:15\n\n182:17 183:20 128:11 135:14 开火\n171:4 168:23 197:12,18\n184:24 205:8,9,12 143:3,11,21 144:3 律所 7:17,19 15:14 随后\n164:15\n著名 208:1 187:16 15:25 17:21,22 以下\n109:2\n远\n37:6,10 95:14 弄清\n102:13 18:6 60:25 124:8 如下 9:2,12,22\n98:19 124:3 195:2 193:5 58:11 214:8\n158:16 160:4 文件 20:19 168:18 律所的 17:23,25 食物 95:25 99:9,20\n164:9 165:3 180:6 172:24 律所\n17:21 114:3 99:20 107:12,22\n187:15 198:21 已提交 7:11 57:7 第一 9:21 23:17 141:18\n父亲 53:20 68:25 65:25 167:23 25:13 30:4 50:5 食品 204:17\n69:12 91:20 92:18 168:19 171:8 52:10 55:1,21 205:5\n92:19 96:1,4 173:8 56:16 58:4 62:23 前述 211:5\n98:16 99:6 108:24 提交 168:3 62:25 69:7 75:3,7 211:13 212:8,15\n109:2 113:13 191:21\n填写 86:10 87:6 139:4 伪造品 170:8\n117:18 119:15 填写 192:4 139:7 143:15 忘记 29:14 30:24\n122:24 134:9 融资\n128:1 144:14 145:16,21 75:23\n136:2 143:7 160:24 162:10 153:8,13 162:9,23 原谅\n185:8\n175:25 176:6 190:23 196:12,12 163:3,7,10 168:15 31:8\n忘了\n177:22 180:11,12 197:8 198:8 199:7 174:19 201:5 表格 13:1 121:5\n182:19,20,22 199:13 212:11 211:7\n191:8 196:11 199:9 金融 46:14,16 钓鱼 37:13 正式\n189:17\n199:11,23 201:9 47:13,22 49:8,9,13 五 4:18 5:7 29:7 成立\n18:10,11\n206:22 49:20 50:3,19,22 33:1,7 41:13 59:3 147:14,21\n福赛斯\n父亲的\n95:24 127:25 189:8,11 59:5 79:24 80:7 提出 141:24,25\n100:18 134:9 189:22 191:22 85:21 168:11 142:3 195:10\n182:18 201:11 192:5 修复 170:25 173:15 212:11\n二月 33:11,17 101:16\n财务资料 173:19 四十 4:14 20:20\n33:23 35:14,17 37:5\n融资 167:8\n修理 29:3,5 35:4 46:23\n联邦 5:13 131:4,11 132:19 72:20\n楼层 47:1,3,4,8 83:19\n212:18 215:1,8,9 132:24 134:21 流动 127:10,12,13 83:22 84:2 88:8\n107:2\n费用 135:3,10 136:23 127:14 88:14\n98:13 153:2\n感觉 查找 23:1 110:3,23 聚焦 23:17 33:16 向前 53:20\n200:16 151:4 204:18 136:22 163:9 88:7\n感觉 154:15 罚金 11:11 54:14 聚焦于\n165:10 四 21:25 22:13\n107-5\n费用 61:10 158:13 专注于\n166:6 22:13 30:2 36:6\n十五 17:8,9,9 160:20 193:22 36:10,14 56:14\n138:20 完成 12:3 63:5 文件夹 19:16 20:16 61:19 64-22 65-8\n第五 197:21 78:5,7 28:20 91:7,9 116:22\n198:16,19 完成了 84:20,22 文件夹\n19:18 142:7\n五十 59:7 116:20 205:24 各位\n112:9 163:17 十四\n157:4\n\n[框架 - 金色]\n\n140:9\n框架 107:7 150:5,9,10 前往\n7:6 13:3 51:24 52:14 54:20\n\n147:15\n坦率地 150:19 151:6,12 18:20 19:6 26:4 58:6,21,22,23\nfrep 215:1 151:24 152:18,23 26:15,21,25 28:13 59:21 65:21 67:25\n109:1\n频率 153:9,17,18 154:2 29:2 37:1,12 42:9 68:10,11,16,23\n69:17\n经常 154:24 156:1 43:3 44:10 53:20 69:2,8,9,14 71:4\n70:25 80:1 83:1 157:11,14 179:12 62:13 66:3,7,12,14 71:12 72:1,8\n108:13,23 140:13 183:4 201:25 66:21 75:17 84:3 73:22 74:21,24\n朋友\n80:6 通常\n15:12 87:13 90:10 91:4 77:18,21,25 78:12\n67:20\n前面 先生 35:11 96:6 97:9 99:7,7 78:19 79:7,15,18\n履行\n70:16 获得 107:25 112:12 125:2,4,18 80:5,11,12,13,18\n完整 23:24 174:24 128:10 204:24 125:24 126:3,23 80:22 81:3,6\n175:8 给予 26:3 44:5 129:2 132:17 86:22 90:4,9,18\n完全地\n129:7 130:21 71:17 82:1 96:2 135:13 136:6 91:16,17,18,24\n基金\n2:12 5:10 96:24 104:4 146:17 150:7,13 92:9,16 93:6 95:4\n9:21 99:4,8 105:10 153:3,8,8,8 158:5,20,24 95:24 97:2,20\n114:15,15 115:7 163:17 166:18 161:13 163:11,15 98:3,23 99:11\n143:6 159:2,6,16 182:21 183:25 166:19 174:2 100:16 102:7,22\n163:11 176:19 186:6 198:14,22 183:5,22 206:1 102:23,25 103:4,7\n获得资金支持 114:12,23 198:24 205:19 207:11,14 208:10 103:9 104:6,10,13\n115:12 11:22 29:19\n已给予 金色 2:21 4:20 104:14,17,22,24\n资金支持 42:13 75:12 96:16,19 5:3,11 7:10 8:3 105:8 107:15,18\n136:2,16 180:10 108:2 136:4 200:7 15:3,20 16:9,22 108:3 109:4,11,13\n资金\n99:6 101:15 209:7 212:16 17:2,4,10 18:9,11 109:18,21,22,25\n127:8 160:24 26:11,11\n给予 18:15,16,17,18,20 110:7,14,17,20,25\n162:10,24 给予 204:22 18:21,24 21:5 111:11,17 113:21\n家具 194:14 11:7 20:13,16\n22:8 23:11,20,24 114:12,15,23\n208:12 23:1,2 31:9 32:20 23:25 24:2,3,12,13 115:8,12,14,16\n进一步 37:2 32:25 35:4 46:18 24:14,18,21,23 116:5,8 117:6,10\n212:20 52:8 54:2 55:21 25:6,16,18 27:6,10 118:7,14 119:4,13\ng 56:8,21 57:4,14,25 27:15 28:9 30:8 119:13,18,23\n17:5,5 30:8,9 66:18 74:3 75:6,6 32:10,13,15 33:12 120:12,20,23,24\ng\n38:22,23,24 39:9,9 75:13,24 82:5,20 33:18 34:1,3,7,9 121:1,4,15,19\n39:12,12 86:14 83:9,13,18 88:1 34:13,16,22,25 122:1,7,13,20,21\n112:24 100:4 106:3 35:14,20 36:2,24 123:8,13 124:11\n汽油\n11:8 107:15 108:5 37:21 38:1,18 124:21 125:7,14\n汽油 109:14 129:3 144:23 40:9,18,22 41:4,17 125:22 126:21,25\n109:14 153:25 167:9,11 42:2,5,21 43:25 127:7,8,9,17\n收集 171:12 183:9 196:20 44:15,17,21,25 128:12,19,20,23\n188:7 197:2,6 202:9,12 45:7,17,21,25 46:6 129:14,17 130:11\n一般 27:4 46:7 前往 47:7,16 84:2 46:13 47:10,21 130:15 131:3,9\n46:8 71:20 107:4 197:14 201:8 49:5,19 50:24 132:18,21,22,23\n\n[金色 - Harbach（哈巴赫）]\n\n133:7,16 134:19 130:21\n获准 138:21 139:11 发生 32:8\n\n135:2,9 136:1,17 杂货 201:19 143:1,4 144:2 47:24 85:18\n137:7,10 140:25 201:20 202:5,11 147:18 148:3,5,10 105:13,17 106:25\n141:24 148:6,12 203:24 204:12,16 148:19 157:8 122:15 136:14\n148:15,18 150:2,6 杂货店 99:20 159:3,7,10,22 138:1,19,19\n150:20 151:11,25 100:21 201:21,24 161:2 163:12 170:13,23 173:3\n152:19,24 153:1 202:9,10,12 164:18 165:21 173:15,19 182:23\n153:10 156:1,6,18 203:22 205:3 172:7,12 175:12 183:8 199:9\n157:3,22 158:16 理由 120:1 175:17 177:18 发生 85:16\n158:17,20 159:13 猜测 97:12 178:2,6,15,20 195:2 196:2,9\n160:21,24 163:21 165:11 179:16 180:7,20 197:22 198:2\n164:10,14 165:16 Guo（郭）\n17:4 24:24 182:19 183:1,5 199:2\n165:22 166:4,14 29:10,23 30:6,8,9 187:5 189:20 12:12\n高兴\n168:9 169:3,15,25 30:10,13,17,19 191:3,8 194:16,16 38:8\n骚扰\n170:14,20 171:14 31:2,15,17,19,25 199:4,8,11,12,15 被骚扰 125:14\n172:10 173:1,4 32:5 34:14 38:21 199:17,22 200:8 骚扰 42:14\n174:16 175:3,13 39:8,9,12,21 40:3 201:7 206:11,21 124:22\n176:23 177:7,14 40:8,17,24 41:6 Guo（郭）的 53:20 68:10 Harbach（哈巴赫）2:11 4:5\n177:18 178:1,3 45:9 46:2 48:9 76:9 89:14 94:9 7:23,24 10:18,20\n180:5 184:10 53:2,5,12 55:3 106:2 113:12 12:23 13:2,5,10,11\n185:3 186:9,14 68:24 69:10,18 136:2 137:4 16:17 19:9,20,22\n187:4 188:25 70:10 75:22 76:12 142:15 170:18 19:24 20:6,14,17\n190:14,18,23 76:25 77:9,13,17 178:23 201:12 26:5,21 27:8\n191:10 192:3,11 77:22 78:12 79:14 h 28:15,19 29:17,21\n192:15 193:18 79:17 80:17,21 4:9 39:13,14\nh 37:16 38:10 40:15\n194:2,7,8 195:4,7 81:4,7,10,13,19 147:15,16 148:25 41:1,23 42:7,15,18\n195:15,22 198:22 85:6,7,24 86:5,6 171:25 216:3 42:19 43:7,9 44:6\n198:24 199:14 86:12,17,21,24 习惯 64:24 44:9,23 45:5 52:7\n201:10,23 202:7 87:7 90:19 92:3 一半\n36:10,14 84:5 52:12,20,24 53:3,8\n202:10 206:8,13 95:23 96:9 97:14 手 8:20 9:5,15 53:15,18 54:7,9,14\n206:22 207:14 98:15 99:4 100:15 57:1 167:22 54:17 55:4,7,8,13\n208:5,8 209:9 104:17 106:10,21 149:23\nGoldenspringny 107:14,16,19,24 处理\n134:23 65:14,20 66:16\n214:2 109:23 110:10 214:8 67:3,7,17,18 71:8\n好 7:5,23 8:1 113:7,10,23 处理\n78:19 71:9,21,24 73:4,6\n10:3,19 11:19 114:14 115:2,17 讲义\n118:10 76:17,19 83:10,12\n49:14 53:22 55:18 115:17,22 116:6 挂断 70:13 151:22 87:2,4 90:6,14\n56:20 88:11 116:18 117:7,7,13 发生 127:20 93:1 94:22 95:21\n112:20 141:6 120:15 134:6,22 197:20 198:4,5,10 104:1,3 111:15,21\n197:25 134:25 135:1,8,18 198:17,17 111:23 112:1,6,11\n136:3 137:13 112:19 116:3,16\n\n[Harbach（哈巴赫）- hr]\n\n120:5,6 121:9,11 7:15\n举行 1:8 2:5 7:11 8:8\nHo（何） 204:21 205:11\n\n122:12 123:1,6 11:15 31:12\n帮助 39:18 40:6 41:16 206:1,14 214:4\n125:1,6 126:2,10 36:20 37:18 40:15 41:24 42:1 45:18 216:1\n126:15 127:4 51:6 52:5 73:15 45:22 52:1,16,22 持有\n119:24 142:7\n128:7,13 129:6,12 81:24,24 82:3 53:5,7,9,13,21 持有 212:6\n130:1,24 131:2,8 89:13,15,20 90:19 54:22 58:9,16 70:14\n抢劫\n131:19 133:12,14 106:2 131:5,14 66:7 68:2,6,11,20 Holley（霍利）3:5 8:15\n140:10,11 143:16 146:5 147:1 70:16 72:3,9,17 holley.l.claiborn\n143:19 144:1,8,17 153:22 166:20 77:1,4 81:4,9,15 3:8\n145:25 146:3 169:11,12 188:12 81:16,21 82:1,10 家 72:16 73:2\n147:4,6,11 148:9 192:15 195:3,8 82:19,23 83:7 204:15\n150:11,17 153:13 200:20 84:15 85:1,13,19 诚实 50:8,12,17\n153:16,25 154:1 帮助了 43:18 85:23 86:8 87:19 61:22 132:10\n154:23 156:15,24 120:25 88:18 89:5,13 诚实地 26:13\n157:25 158:14,15 有帮助的 37:24 90:16 91:2,14 191:15\n159:24 161:6,10 38:24 92:24 94:1 92:10 93:14 94:16 Hong（洪）18:16,18,20\n165:9,13 166:1,12 90:23\n有帮助地 95:7 97:22 98:4 18:21,25 21:5\n166:21,25 167:5 帮助 191:20 98:24 99:13 100:8 22:6,8 23:11,12,20\n170:4 171:2 192:12 100:12,24 101:4 23:22 24:3,7,8,12\n173:22 174:9,12 36:22\n帮助 101:12 102:17 24:13,21,23 25:1,3\n186:8,18,19 188:2 本文件 212:11 103:13 104:5,9,14 25:3,3,6,7,16,19\n188:15,16 190:6 犹豫\n125:13 104:21 105:5,15 27:10,15,16 30:5\n190:10 192:1,2,22 犹豫\n150:12 105:24 106:6,15 31:23 32:1,3,4\n193:4 196:22 173:24 106:23,24 107:8 44:15,18 45:7,17\n197:1 200:22 107:8 194:7\n嘿 108:22 110:25 45:22\n201:16 204:5,8 195:17 111:13 115:3,6 希望 55:14 146:1\n205:19:21 207:1,5 嗨\n141:12 118:6 119:10,20 希望地 44:7\n207:11,21,24 高\n154:9 119:22 121:3,23 107:6 205:22\n208:3,23 209:2,12 152:8,14\n雇用 121:25 122:6,21 165:19\n毫无希望地\n209:12,19,25 153:19 154:4,6,9 136:18 139:13,18 118:25\n希望\n困难 200:2,3 被雇用 86:8,11,17 140:14,21 149:21 希望 195:3,7\nHartford（哈特福德）2:23 3:12 87:8,12 91:17 151:7,14 172:19 酒店 27:12 102:2\n头部 66:9 176:14 151:25 169:2,23 176:23 177:6,16 102:4,7,8\n187:22 170:13,22 177:19 178:8,15 房屋 3:11 72:12\n听到 10:23,23 11:1 雇用 152:25 178:17 186:1 72:14 201:21\n13:5 92:6 154:25 187:7,10 189:1,16 202:2\n听说 10:20 39:5,6 历史 170:6 189:20 191:6,9,16 内务管理\n52:22 111:9 134:6 击中\n37:7 192:13 193:20 10:21\n139:4,7,9 162:25 嗯 195:11 196:2 87:9,11 155:1,9\nhr\n163:13 172:4,16 114:18 115:5 199:19 200:4,24 155:16,23\n178:6 193:8 201:1,6,24 204:20\n\n[呃 - 投资]\n\n嗯？ 54:2 101:2 118:9,10 151:12 指示 45:8 口译员\n3:17\n\n137:19 155:16 153:5 157:5,6 58:21 68:10,24 3:18 8:24 9:4,6,9\n赫尔（Hull） 1:25 7:19 170:14 179:6 69:10 89:14,22 9:14 10:2,4,5,7,9\n212:5 213:4 收入 118:17,18 91:18 94:9 96:2,9 10:10,11 11:8\n谦逊 48:14 118:20 119:2 96:16,19,24 98:16 31:12 40:20,21\n49:24 50:7,21 123:14,18,21 98:18 106:2 108:2 52:5,21,22 53:1,4\n百 4:17 124:9 125:2 130:24 53:6,14,17 54:7,10\n105:22 120:17 公司注册\n5:5 133:6 54:11,25 55:6\n数百 82:15 168:4,9 诚信\n127:1 59:18 81:1 131:12\n伤害 129:19 表明\n188:4 128:22 131:13,14,15,16\n174:23 表明\n57:21 打算 15:6 133:11 143:13,18\n受到伤害\n175:7 个别地 121:7 意图\n146:1 143:22,23 144:8\n丈夫 201:25 推论\n94:14 意图为 158:23 144:12,13 146:5\n我 影响 13:13 互动 80:5 147:1,9,24,25\n识别 19:8 23:18\n告知 互动过 74:23 153:22 154:5\n28:18 43:6 55:11 信息 16:20 79:6,14,19 80:10 200:18 201:3,4,14\n128:10 166:24 36:19 51:4 60:1 互动\n80:17 口译员 8:19\n209:18 61:23 62:4,10 80:21 口译 40:20\n识别 156:13 64:2 130:8 156:8 互动 80:3 52:20 29:18\n身份 127:5 156:14 利益\n146:11 131:12\n128:9 150:10 已获告知\n87:11 186:22,24 187:3,7 打断 30:15\n153:18 154:2 告知\n26:10 187:11,13 189:16 75:19 150:12\nii 2:11 内部\n16:13 感兴趣\n47:18 打断 76:18\n立即 85:6 155:25 128:10 145:6,8 152:12\n访谈\n立即 失效\n166:7 212:22 152:15 154:6,15\n152:18,25 186:10 168:16 169:4,17 有趣 151:4 154:15\n损害\n13:14 169:19,25 171:14 利益\n25 访谈 118:10\n重要 11:21 172:23 173:2,13 52:16 54:21 58:8 侵入\n146:1\n印象 75:12 输入 180:8 58:16 68:2,6,20 投资\n120:25\n不真实 170:8 询问\n116:7 87:19 88:18 90:16 175:25\n包括 24:4 85:18 坚持 76:11 91:3,14 95:7 已投资\n176:5\n89:15 111:3,6 指示 20:11 干涉 13:15 投资 118:2\n125:3 157:8,12 26:15 37:2,14 102:11\n内部 投资 114:11\n164:5 38:3 42:9 66:5,6 口译 8:24 9:1 115:20 117:20,25\n包括在内 119:19 66:14 67:15 9:9,11 183:22 118:23 123:16,22\n214:14 215:3 116:14 126:23 201:15 123:23 124:6\n包括 119:10 被指示 6:1 被口译 9:2,12 174:15,24 175:3,9\n包括 48:9 95:24 141:21 143:22 144:12 175:22 176:3\n84:8,12 89:14 正在指示 42:16 147:9,25 154:5 179:24 181:3,4,21\n91:20 92:18,19,21 67:9 129:9 188:6 201:3 183:15,19\n95:25 99:4 115:19\n\n［投资 - Kong（孔）］\n\n投资 154:14 174:19 12:12 14:22\n知道 154:8,12,14\n\n118:25 196:12 214:5 21:13,16 22:25 155:11 159:9,15\n118:24\n投资。 216:2 28:1 31:6 32:21 160:13 161:1,2\n发票\n148:7,15 Johnston（约翰斯顿） 3:17 8:23 33:3 38:11,15,16 162:19 163:1,4,15\n148:16 10:6 11:15 12:15 39:11 41:23 48:24 163:16,23 165:4\n涉及 99:12 52:11 54:3 55:5 49:14 50:3 54:10 170:12,18,18,21\n124:20 133:2,5,10 59:15 98:11 131:8 25:1 26:18 50:9 170:23 172:20,25\n134:20,24 135:15 133:12 143:17 59:10,12,13,17 173:4,10,10,12,14\n135:16 143:24 144:10 147:5 60:7,9,10,19 61:4 175:12 180:15\n144:14 152:7,24 153:25 200:23 61:7,21 63:7,14,20 185:18 187:15\n164:7 179:20 Jonathan（乔纳森） 3:10 8:4 64:6 70:2 73:21 191:3 192:9 193:5\n180:20 183:12 法官 127:13 74:11,22 75:9 193:11,12 194:6\n191:4,20 192:4,12 1 28:8 76:13 77:19,25 194:22,23 195:9\n196:4 判决书 23:19 78:4,11,14,16,17 197:5,15,17\n涉及\n197:3 127:11,12,14 78:18 80:13 82:14 198:21 199:3,22\n涉及 13:24 跳跃 154:13 84:20 86:19 95:10 199:24 200:1\n178:25 179:9 3:4\n司法 100:10,12,23 201:10 203:6\n184:3 K 102:1,20 103:12 204:1,14,23,25\n争议 41:20 127:10 K\n38:14,14 39:13 103:22 105:3 205:2,7,8 207:6,7\n127:12,13,14 39:13,14,14 107:9 108:15,15 208:23\n132:20 142:22 148:25 108:17,18,24,25 知识 46:15\n149:8,11 153:12 Kaplan（卡普兰） 3:10 8:4,4 109:1 110:6,9,19 46:17 47:14,15,22\n156:10 164:21 19:18 110:22 111:11,13 49:8,10,13,20,25\n183:12 Kaulet（考莱特） 2:9 111:14 112:6,23 50:19,23 51:10,18\n争议事项 124:20 保留 57:13 130:9 113:3,25 114:6 60:2 62:9 64:3\n128:25 157:20 132:17 151:20 115:11,13 116:25 104:21 105:2\n108:7\n项目 Kenneth（肯尼思） 2:5 8:7 117:1,5,9 120:7 121:25 122:4,5,11\nJ 211:22 212:2\nKern（克恩）\n84:6,11 86:2,3\n监狱 绑架\n47:11 125:17 128:15,19 150:1 160:22\nJalbert（贾尔伯特） 193:11,14 被绑架 48:11 130:7 131:23 172:18 188:21\n果酱\n1:8 7:14 84:11 86:2 132:1,9,11 133:3,9 206:24 207:4,10\nJeff\n7:17 112:7 121:20\n孩子 133:11,15 134:1,1 已知\n175:18\nJeffrey（杰弗里） 3:16 种类\n49:9 73:23 134:14 135:5,6 知道\n53:10,12\n猛拉 57:13 96:5 122:23 138:8 136:12 141:16,17 136:6 173:24\nJerry（杰里） 170:17,18,24 146:15 151:15 141:24 142:1 Kong（孔） 18:16,18,20\n171:18 172:9,9 163:22 195:21 143:2,10,20 18:21,25 21:5\nKaplan（卡普兰） 3:13 203:11 206:17 144:15 145:18 22:6,8 23:11,12,20\n工作\n34:15 65:21 141:18\n种类 146:10,13,24 23:22 24:3,7,8,12\n66:1 93:5 149:9 53:11 75:11\n知道 147:7,12,14,17,21 24:13,21,23 25:1,3\n149:17 151:11,13 136:5 150:19,21 151:20 25:3,3,6,7,16,19\n151:21 154:12,13 152:17 153:1,2,14 27:10,15,16 30:5\n\n31:23 32:1,3,4 189:20 191:6,9,16 律师\n126:17 喜欢\n197:6\n\n44:15,18 45:7,17 191:21 192:4 132:5 150:18 限制\n138:4,8\n45:22 193:20 194:1 172:1 有限\n2:22 4:21\n韩国的\n35:10 195:1,11 196:2 律师\n17:20,20 5:12 17:4 18:9,11\nKwok（郭文贵）\n1:8 2:5 7:11 197:20 198:20 18:6 62:24 155:25 18:17 43:25 46:1\n8:8 37:25 38:11 199:19 200:4,24 208:2 47:2 51:24 52:14\n38:14 39:6 40:6 201:1,24 204:21 获悉\n48:17 142:24 54:20 58:7 59:21\n41:16,24 42:4 205:11 206:1,14 191:1 90:18 91:16,24\n45:18,22 52:1,16 206:19 214:4 获悉\n114:2,14 92:9 93:6 95:4\n52:16,22,22 53:5,7 216:1 114:25 134:4 98:3,23 99:12\n53:9,13,21 54:22 Kwok的\n39:18 42:1 140:12 146:15 103:10 104:13\n58:9,16 66:7 68:2 74:15 76:22 87:19 162:10,23 163:7 110:18,20 111:12\n68:6,11,19 70:16 88:17 90:16 91:2 163:10 171:13 113:2 114:23\n72:3,9,17 74:11 97:3,22,22 98:4 176:9,12 115:8,12 117:6,10\n75:11,13,25 76:25 100:12,24 103:13 租赁\n208:11,19 118:8,14 119:5\n77:1,4 81:4,9,15 104:5,9,14 110:25 已租赁\n111:6,12 120:12 121:4,16\n81:16,21 82:1,10 177:16 192:8,13 离开\n25:2 127:5 122:2,8,14 124:11\n82:19,23 83:7 201:6 204:20 175:2 193:17 127:7,18 128:12\n84:15 85:1,10,10 206:9 离开\n30:3 31:8 67:8 131:10 133:16\n85:13,19,23 86:8 Kwong（邝）\n75:9\nC--------~-----------j 法律\n7:18,20 52:2 134:20 137:11\n88:18 89:5,5,13 1 59:22,25 60:12,14 148:18 156:7\n91:14 92:10 93:14 1 3:5,6 38:14,23 61:13,21 107:2,5 157:3 158:18\n94:16 95:7,12 170:17 171:25 182:18 209:11 160:22 163:22\n98:24 99:13 100:8 2:12 9:21\nL.P. 214:7 165:22 166:15\n101:4,12 102:17 L.P.的\n5:10 贷款人\n42:3 131:25 168:10 169:25\n103:3 104:21 放置\n164:15 132:6 146:16 172:10 175:14\n105:5,15,24 106:6 语言\n30:1 贷款人\n139:1 177:15 180:6\n106:15,23,24 39:23 50:2 62:25 信函\n153:9,13 186:10 192:3\n107:8,25 108:12 63:25 64:1 68:4,8 许可证\n51:21 193:19 195:5,7\n108:22 109:7 79:19 85:2,4 获许可\n51:14 206:14\n111:13 115:3,6 89:21 93:16,17 生命\n61:5,8 195:25 Limited的\n119:18\n118:6 119:10,20 148:2 197:3 123:14 126:22\n119:22 121:3,23 迟\n28:11 生活方式\n68:12 130:12\n121:25 122:6,21 启动\n175:18 96:1 97:3,22 98:5 豪华轿车\n108:17\n136:18 139:13,18 法律\n2:6,12,16,22 98:24 99:9 100:12 豪华轿车\n108:13\n140:14,21,23 3:5,11 15:14,24 107:13 192:14 108:15\n149:2 151:7,14 17:23,25 60:25 193:20,23 194:3 行\n6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9\n172:19 176:23 84:10 114:3 124:8 194:15 196:6 6:10,11 22:4 23:9\n177:6,19 178:8,15 法律\n168:21 一生\n59:1 29:7 33:8 35:8\n178:17 186:1 诉讼\n174:22 轻\n127:2 128:23 74:10 84:2,2 85:9\n187:7,10 189:1,16 130:16 185:9 88:13 214:15\n\n［行 - 标记］\n\n215:4 216:4,7,10 锁住 214:12 M\n\n216:13,16,19 215:1 2:15 38:14,23\nM\n行\n37:3 133:20 134:5,7,8 长 80:24 81:8,14 171:25\n液体\n127:6,17 136:18,23 137:4 84:1,13 85:19,22 女士\n20:24\n128:6 137:18 138:3,19 85:24 86:4,6 87:3 21:15 54:4 56:5\n清单\n37:6 139:2,5,14 140:13 96:3,11,12 97:2,4 57:16 71:5 83:23\n听 65:14 140:21 142:21,23 97:6 98:18 103:18 88:3 91:8 98:1,9\n160:20 144:6,11,15,18 115:25 116:7,17 145:5 146:22\n诉讼\n13:23 145:9,17,22 146:8 117:5,5 145:1,3 169:7 190:15\n14:6 37:13 38:8 146:10,14,21,25 164:11 165:3 维持\n130:16 136:1,16 147:2,8,19 158:19 207:2 170:25\n136:23 170:7 158:20 159:2,6,14 更长 96:15 维持\n176:19,24 177:8 159:16 160:25 看 23:9 33:7 126:25\n177:16 178:16 162:11,13,24 35:2,8 46:25 55:9 主要 79:17\n180:10 182:20 163:11,15 176:17 88:13 122:22 123:20\n184:9 186:13,21 177:3 180:7 168:11 多数\n78:19\n187:17 188:25 185:12,14 186:4 寻找 29:7 49:10 78:19\n主要地\n191:17 206:2 186:12 188:5,9 50:4,5 51:5 60:7,8 Makenzie（麦肯齐）\n3:19\n207:18 189:4,8,10,12,15 60:9 62:6 74:5 8:11\n小 19:13 22:13 189:22,23 190:17 89:18 136:11 制作 97:21\n23:2,6 30:25 191:10 206:6 165:8 205:1 135:11 165:10\n32:25 37:8 44:7 207:13 19:19 31:13\n看起来 男子的\n101:5\n44:11 66:17 74:5 借出\n177:7 85:4 149:2 197:25 管理 155:7\n112:21 149:3 176:18,22\n贷款 112:21\n松散 165:22\n152:6 162:14 177:11,12,15,22 130:2,3,12\n损失 普通话 3:17,18\n195:4 205:23 177:25 178:4,8,16 很多\n84:7 92:21 8:25,25 9:10,10\n40:17 72:16\n居住 184:10,13,16 116:13 117:14 10:4,10 11:13,14\n115:22 202:1 186:13,21,21,22 48:17\n许多 53:4,5 54:13\n204:15 206:25 187:4,8,11,14,17 大声\n174:10 Manhattan（曼哈顿）\n194:8\n居住过 42:4 72:4,20 187:21,25 188:5,8 扩音器 195:12 196:3\n115:25 116:18 188:9,25 189:3,9 174:10 199:4,5\n居住 115:24 189:19 190:12,17 爱 65:15 94:23 Manning的 127:13\n199:18 201:20 191:2,5,17 206:2,4 Lowey（洛伊） 193:5,7 3月 5:7,15\n生活 37:25 40:8 207:17 忠诚 154:11 18:13,14 134:15\n40:11,14,24 41:16 位于 27:9,11,18 幸运 114:20,24 166:7 168:8,15\n113:4 202:1 185:12 115:4,11 Mark（马克） 19:6\n贷款 37:11 42:3,13 地点 26:22 总额 208:15 标记 19:8,15\n66:13 94:21 42:12 72:2 124:24 午餐\n112:3,22 20:16 28:18 43:6\n125:15 129:1 158:4 午宴 112:15 55:11 166:24\n130:20 131:17,18 地点\n116:11 209:18\n131:22,23,25\n\n［Mary（玛丽）- mix］\n\nMary（玛丽）\n171:25 120:21,22,24 93:13 94:3 95:9 75:25 76:25\n\n事项\n37:4 72:15 121:20 123:10,17 128:7,8 188:19 108:24 110:9\n108:6 130:19 123:21 124:5,7 201:14 百万\n142:23\n144:14 154:8,10 125:12 127:8,9 媒体\n7:8 209:10 143:2,11,21,24\n154:20 129:16,21 132:5 药物\n12:19 144:3 146:10\n事项\n10:21 135:4,11 136:2 13:13 177:8 179:9,12,20\n150:8 154:19 137:18 138:17 会面\n15:19,21,22 179:21 180:21\n178:25 139:24 141:25 15:23 16:2,5,21 181:8 182:11,13\n迈巴赫\n108:13 142:5 144:21 18:5 80:8 139:19 183:12 184:3,9\n108:18,23 109:7 146:21 148:11 142:18 186:4,13 187:17\n109:10,19,21 149:24 151:14,17 会议\n141:15 187:21 188:24\n110:7,21 111:12 152:14 155:7,8 成员\n84:8 206:1 208:19\n111:18 158:1 161:25 119:22 120:17 数百万\n178:25\n意思\n14:7 15:22 164:12,16,16,20 121:17,23,24 Miltenberger（米尔滕贝格）\n18:2\n15:22,23 17:24 164:22 174:23 122:22 205:11 心\n52:9 80:4\n21:21 23:21 25:11 177:12,13,19 成员\n120:22 91:1 107:24\n27:11,12,12,17,18 179:13,23 180:15 记忆\n13:14 194:23\n27:23 28:1 30:1 180:24 182:12,18 36:20,22 我的\n93:3\n30:19 31:25 33:21 183:17 184:21 男子的\n101:8,11 微型\n21:17\n34:6 36:4,7,10,14 188:1,3,9 189:4 提及\n198:11 21:18,21\n39:6 40:11,12,14 190:13 191:12 提及\n34:8 最低限度\n208:20\n43:20 46:8,9,16 195:14,17,20 38:17 99:8 110:1 次要\n121:20\n48:8,16,21 50:3,10 196:10,12,14 117:21 118:5 分钟\n168:2\n50:21 53:6 56:4,9 199:3,5,21,21,24 134:9 162:16 分钟\n17:9,9\n58:24 59:10 60:8 200:20 201:20,25 171:16 182:6,8 62:22 66:20 79:24\n60:23 62:18,19 202:24 203:2,6,15 184:5 190:16 80:8 85:21 97:13\n70:6 71:14 72:10 204:15 206:3,5,11 208:4 135:16 172:15\n72:11 73:1 80:6,8 206:21 208:11,11 提及\n185:6 歪曲\n81:23 82:8,11 含义\n70:9 77:9 提及\n66:6 161:7\n85:25 86:18 88:22 82:23 85:18 86:5 合并\n27:21 歪曲\n89:12,17,23 92:1 86:20 89:20 93:25 消息\n195:17 159:19 161:5\n92:22 93:16,16 104:9 105:4 会面\n17:19 35:10 缺少\n164:21\n96:1,4,5 97:5 98:6 121:10 125:1 35:19 40:13 74:17 错误\n128:8\n98:16 100:4,15,17 186:21 77:8,13 113:2,5,17 误解\n101:14 102:4,11 意味着\n58:17,20 140:15 145:8 200:16\n102:16 103:20,22 59:13 78:15 88:13 146:4 被误解\n105:12 108:9,14 89:25 91:3,21 方法\n203:11 30:16 39:24\n109:21 111:25 93:9,18 120:9 英里\n85:10 143:14 200:12\n114:16 116:13,19 134:2 135:5 142:3 Mileson（迈尔森）\n37:25 混合\n24:22 70:11\n118:18 119:7 意味着\n49:14 55:1 38:11,23 39:6,8,18 80:2\n120:7,13,14,15,16 68:5 71:10 87:19 74:11 75:9,11,13\n\n[混合－新]\n\n混合 99:25 22:6 23:11\n移动 151:17 163:1 30:4,4,11,18 31:2\n\n100:22 23:22 27:21 28:4 173:18 185:6 31:14,22,23 32:1,2\n100:22\n妈妈 29:22 194:7,8,9 195:17 32:3,11,13,15\n时刻 12:10 多个\n20:9 196:4,12 197:11 33:13,19 34:1,4,7\n15:24 17:19 19:9 Murray（默里）2:15 199:7 203:6 34:13,17,25 35:21\n37:17 44:5 60:17 167:10\n静音 204:18 206:3 36:2,24 37:21\n69:1,3 87:14 99:8 174:11 需要 69:21 70:2 38:1,2 40:9,10,11\n104:20 117:18 Myers（迈尔斯）2:11 7:24 78:21 79:21 80:9 40:14,17,18,23,24\n119:17 120:11 8:12 209:13 89:21,25 139:19 41:2,4,7,16,18\n121:12 140:12 194:24\n谜团 139:21,23,24 42:2,6,21 43:25\n151:22 156:25 n 140:7 196:7 44:21,25 46:1,6,14\n171:3,12 179:14 4:1 17:5 30:8\nn 201:21 47:21 49:5,19\n190:16 193:22 38:14,22,23 39:9 89:16 92:11\n需要 51:24 52:14 54:20\n金钱 114:17,22 39:12,13,14 86:14 92:18 97:22 98:5 57:8 58:7 59:21\n115:7,11 118:2,24 112:24 171:25 98:24 99:9 195:12 65:22 68:1 69:8\n118:25 122:1,7,20 姓名 7:17 10:20 195:13 196:6 69:10,15 71:13,13\n127:17 128:11,14 17:5,18,23,25 18:4 202:20 206:20 72:1,1,4,8 73:22\n128:16,19,20 38:12,20,22,23,24 忽视\n87:22 81:3,6 90:18\n159:9,16 160:2,6 52:10 53:4,12,13 协商\n187:3,6 91:16,17,19,24\n160:14 161:23 53:19,24 54:12,13 正在协商\n191:4 92:9,17 93:6 95:4\n163:3,7,11 175:24 64:3 76:7,9,14 协商\n133:2 97:2 98:3,23\n176:4 178:11 134:11 147:15 133:5 99:11 103:10\n180:13 208:5 150:19 170:16 两者均不 54:15 104:6,10,13,15,22\n159:1,5\n金钱 171:18 175:20 212:20 104:24 109:11,13\n月 96:14,15 193:12,17 211:11 84:9\n侄子 109:18 110:7,15\n109:6 138:17 被命名\n93:17 nether and 72:21 110:17,20,25\n每月\n192:8,13 148:24 212:8 29:13 30:24\n从不 111:11,17 113:2\n月\n19:4 73:21 58:20 59:21\n本地人 31:8,8,9 39:5,6 113:20,21 114:12\n73:25 77:20,21,24 64:1 79:19 93:17 74:23 79:6 81:17 114:23 115:8,12\n78:23 148:23 148:2 82:16 86:1,8 115:15 117:6,10\n149:3,7 173:7,17 自然 96:5,7 104:21,24 173:4 118:3,8,14 119:5\n早晨 7:5,23 必然地 116:13 178:11 180:11 119:18 120:12\n8:1 10:3,19 必要的 211:9 198:22 204:7 121:4,16 122:2,8\n181:11 185:1,1 214:14 215:3 1:19,19 2:7,7\n新 122:14 123:14\n母亲 11:6 29:25 需要 11:8 32:4 2:17,17,22 4:20 124:11 125:7\n39:22 50:2 46:25 52:5 63:22 5:4,12 7:1,1,10 126:22 127:7,18\n移动 25:9,11 66:17 70:2 98:11 8:3 10:12 14:23 128:12 129:14\n27:24 28:1,2 29:9 99:17 101:7,15 15:4 17:4 18:9,11 130:12 131:4,10\n30:1 31:14 65:12 106:9,20 107:18 18:15,17 23:24 132:19,21,22,23\n65:16 67:13 117:7 112:3 126:13 24:2,15,18 27:6 133:16 134:19\n129:10 136:8,10 143:17 28:9 29:10,23 135:2,9 137:10\n\n[新－好的]\n140:25 148:12,18 注意到 156:22 52:2,18 54:23 提出 81:24 92:2\n\n150:3,6,20 156:1,7 十一月 4:24 65:11 71:16 90:2 111:16 120:9\n156:18 157:3 号码 7:13 10:6 92:13 94:17 95:18 154:22\n158:18 160:22 19:7 20:7 22:13 103:23 116:1 提出 36:19\n163:22 164:14 28:15,17 43:4,5,10 121:5 122:9 123:4 93:18,22 120:24\n165:22 166:4,15 55:10 56:14 85:10 124:19 125:4 办公室 115:17\n168:10 169:16,25 91:9 100:23 105:1 129:7,24 130:14 118:3 119:7\n174:16 175:14 157:1 166:23 140:6 153:11 123:21 124:6\n176:23 177:7,14 182:3 186:7 156:11 159:18 141:16,16,19,20\n178:1 180:5 181:5 187:19 198:5 161:4 165:5,17 141:21,21 157:18\n184:10,25 185:4 203:19,21 209:10 166:9 170:2 164:16,17,23\n186:10,15 187:4 209:17 212:7 191:23 193:1 181:17 182:17\n189:1 190:19 214:15 215:4 203:25 183:20 184:19,24\n192:3,12 193:18 编号 21:19 异议\n12:21 185:3,4 190:4\n194:2 195:5,7 号码 22:3,20 13:1 158:8 208:12 214:11\n199:23 201:10 22:22 32:24,25 明显的 101:6 官员 4:19 28:8\n206:8,13 207:15 众多 121:13 140:3 175:20 32:14 43:24 56:9\n208:8 209:9 204:2,4 193:15 123:8 175:13\n好\n110:4 2:12 3:6\n西北 显然 54:15 官员 37:9\nNichols（尼科尔斯）3:16 7:17 0 65:15 86:1 93:20 148:17\n侄女\n84:9 17:5 30:9 38:14\n0 95:23 100:18 办公室\n140:25\n九\n29:3,5 38:14,23,23,24 101:11 102:7 正式的\n76:14\n176:14\n点头 39:9,12,13,13,14 106:9,20 107:18 正式地 23:25\n噪音\n171:6 39:14 112:24 109:2 117:15 24:17 40:22\n未付款 116:22 147:16 127:21 129:16 170:13\n168:17 172:23 148:25 137:6 140:2 22:23 25:22\n哦\n正常\n102:12 点钟 67:2 112:8 141:14 154:8 65:20 69:3 71:6,8\n57:20\n公证人 174:1 170:24 171:19 86:23 96:3 109:20\n标注 214:15 O’Melveny（奥梅尔韦尼）2:11 194:15 198:8 115:16 139:19\n215:4 7:24 8:12 209:13 199:7,22 140:15 144:24\n标记 207:16 50:10 60:15\n宣誓 场合 140:20 157:4 161:6 163:3\n注释 57:12 116:10 61:14 64:25 141:3 179:3 163:5 198:4\n129:8 158:6 反对 20:10 26:22 180:18 好的 9:25 10:24\n192:22,25 65:3 120:1 122:17 场合\n105:24 11:6,17,19 12:1,6\n已注意到 111:22 125:24 126:23 131:20 179:15 12:9,16,19 13:2,3\n注释\n189:7,22 128:21 150:7 发生 136:24 13:10,21 14:21,24\n207:20 157:19 192:24 十月 4:14 13:23 15:11,16 18:5,22\n通知 5:10 15:8 209:21 14:10,25 36:9 18:24 19:5,20\n209:19 异议\n16:11 73:16 75:10 77:14 20:18,23 22:3,24\n注意到 125:18 78:11 79:13 96:17 23:8,16,18 24:9,20\n160:23 26:1,20 38:3\n41:19 44:19 45:3 171:9 173:8 25:9,21 27:20\n\n[好的－页]\n\n28:4,13,23 29:2,3 133:8 135:7 204:19 205:15,19 原先\n32:4\n\n29:7,17 31:10,24 136:22 137:2,9,16 206:16,24 207:11 176:5\n32:20,24 33:7 138:6,9,12,15 207:21,24 208:21 结果\n212:23\n34:15 35:8 37:25 139:4,10 140:17 2:14,19\nomm.com 179:6\n服装\n38:17 39:3,8,18 141:2,11,23 142:2 2:19 外部\n16:14\n40:5 42:18 43:13 142:9,14 143:2 13:23 69:22\n一旦 31:20 114:8\n43:18 44:12 45:16 145:1 146:13 69:25 83:3,5 超过\n129:5\n47:4 48:4 50:15 148:1,17,22 149:6 105:20 109:7 越权\n51:7,16 52:7 149:16,19 150:11 那些\n190:1,1,2 130:17\n53:17 54:6,14 150:15,16,22 在线\n196:21 拥有\n18:18\n55:7,14 56:6,7,12 151:4 152:2,7,17 197:6 202:11,17 86:24 109:21,23\n56:15 57:4,12,25 153:4 155:15,17 202:19 203:13,16 115:17 206:8\n60:4,6,13,17 61:10 157:11,14 158:6 210:9\n00000 所有者\n17:3 30:8\n61:25 66:16 67:17 158:10,14 160:9 打开\n20:25 28:24 45:8 46:9 58:22\n67:22 69:22,24 161:11,22 162:7 43:14 55:19 56:16 78:17 86:18 91:18\n70:3,13,25 71:2,7 162:15 163:14,17 已打开\n56:6 92:17 101:16\n73:3,10,15,18 74:3 163:19 164:1,5,9 经营\n46:6 118:3 119:12 122:24,24\n74:8 76:2,10 77:7 166:2,19 167:8,15 经营\n164:10 123:2,5 132:21,22\n77:16 79:5 82:22 168:1 169:1,24 经营\n97:14 133:7 137:7\n83:6,9,13,18 84:1 171:3,4,21 172:4 192:8,13 208:7,11 160:17 177:18\n84:22 85:15 87:1 172:11,18,21 运营\n127:9 181:19\n87:21 88:6,11 173:6,10 175:2,10 128:17 142:17,19 所有权\n37:8\n89:23 90:15,21,25 175:12,16 176:4,8 149:24 174:20 拥有\n109:22 110:1\n93:24 94:8 95:22 176:15,21,25 179:6 110:7,20 111:10\n96:16 97:7 98:14 177:2,6,11,25 运营\n179:8 111:17 122:6\n98:21 99:2,24 178:11,16,24 195:15 208:6,8,15 206:25\n100:7,23 101:24 179:3,14,18 意见\n179:4 p\n102:13,25 103:3 180:23 181:2,6,25 184:4 p\n86:14 148:25\n104:20 105:10 183:4,10 185:5 机会\n2:12 下午\n174:4 209:6\n106:4,12,22 186:2,4,8,18 5:10 9:21 181:22 210:8\n108:18,20 109:8 187:20 188:15,22 口头的\n190:2,12 太平洋\n2:1 15:9\n110:4,16,24 189:9,21,24 190:6 191:2,5,17 207:17 7:11,25 8:12,14\n111:19,21 112:11 190:11,24 192:11 命令\n12:14 9:20 174:22 175:7\n112:23 113:1,3,16 192:16,19,22 111:12 162:12 209:13\n113:19 114:12 193:2,11,13,24 组织 页\n4:3,11 5:2\n117:21 118:1,5,24 194:6,18 195:19 122:6 6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10\n119:10 120:11,19 196:5,18,20 组织的\n168:13 6:11 21:10,14,16\n120:22 121:2 197:10,23 198:11 定位\n73:16 21:20,24 22:3,4,12\n123:20 124:4 198:14 199:17 168:3\n原始 22:12,13,17,20,22\n125:1 126:16,19 200:1,14 201:5 214:10,21 23:2,6,6,9,21 29:3\n132:1,9,15,16 202:14,18,22 29:5 32:24,25,25\n\n[页－请]\n\n33:7 35:4 46:23 42:12\n当事人 146:17 187:1 207:3,9\n\n47:3,4,7 55:22 当事人 47:11 84:7 完美\n11:10 亲自 41:2,6\n56:16,21,22 57:1,4 212:21 执行\n149:9 90:5 155:5,17,21\n57:12,14,15,25 36:11\n通过 已执行 26:19 191:4,20\n63:2 73:15 74:3,8 已通过\n49:2 26:19,23 95:12 人员 15:19\n83:18 84:1 88:8 耐心 166:25 期间 24:6 25:2 16:22 193:18\n88:13 167:11,22 205:22 209:3 25:25 58:12 涉及 20:5\n170:17 212:11 Pax 13:24 14:4,10 134:23 156:3 电话 70:10 80:2\n214:15 215:4 125:13 127:3 203:10 214:18 身体的 26:22\n216:4,7,10,13,16 128:24 129:15,16 215:7 157:20\n216:19 129:18,19 伪证 211:12 身体上 25:6\n4:15,18,22\n页数 68:11 81:17\n支付 214:17 215:6 27:9,11,18 196:20\n4:25 5:8,16 20:20 81:17 95:24 111:8 永久的 27:25 挑选\n35:24\n21:17,18,21,25 120:23 145:19 永久地 152:15\n挑剔的\n22:21,22 23:3 146:16,17,23 27:21,23 部分\n60:14\n74:5 88:8 214:14 148:12 177:8 许可\n106:16 1:17 4:13,23\nPing\n214:17,17 215:3,6 194:2,7,8 206:4,6 107:10,25 142:16 9:18 56:17 211:4\n215:6 206:14,15,22 遭受迫害 48:10 212:8 214:1,5\n已支付 97:23 98:5 正在支付 97:3,16 11:22\n人 216:2\n109:11 120:10 99:12 109:17 15:22 16:2 39:1,7 地点\n161:20\n121:1 122:1 208:11,12 59:22 60:15 61:13 212:11\n123:23 147:22 付款 99:18 70:10,22,24 74:18 地点（复数）27:19\n151:14 186:23 支付\n81:17 109:13 77:10,14 79:17 清楚地\n66:4,4\n202:5,7 109:13 110:25 80:2,14 84:24 170:9\n一对\n196:8 195:1,5 86:11 87:8 110:3 计划 117:16,19\nPangu 86:14,14,16 20:19\n警察局 113:11 119:12 118:22 119:14\n86:24 PDF 20:19 28:23 139:7 147:17 124:5 183:18\n文书工作 60:12 172:8 214:12 150:23 151:1 119:3\n已计划\n60:14 61:22,23 215:1 152:8,17,23,25 规划\n115:18\n164:21 170:21 Pearl\n2:22 153:20 154:4 计划（复数）\n26:14 27:4\n段落\n168:2 处罚 211:12 155:18,21 157:12 玩 153:14\n168:11 214:16 215:5 160:21 192:23 请 7:21 8:18\n父母\n100:16 待决 126:20 206:11 8:21 9:6,15 10:1,8\n部分 36:19 80:13 130:16 某人的 38:20 11:14 12:2,11\n93:7 101:22 人们 34:12 155:6 193:17 13:6 20:4,25 26:2\n102:11 119:2 85:17 120:18 个人的 65:15 28:23 32:25 38:12\n121:3,8 124:22 121:14,18 152:12 90:9 92:11 133:18 39:17 40:19 41:21\n160:19,19 206:12 152:14 154:7,18 133:23 143:25 44:5,20 54:5,8\n特定的 63:13 157:15,17 202:24 149:8,11 150:9 55:19 56:21 57:14\n111:18 165:7 百分比 18:18 156:13 191:24 59:15 66:19 67:15\n180:3 65:22 146:11,16 197:3 206:24 70:13 83:13,18\n\n87:24 88:7 97:25 偏好 12:13 39:21 相当 45:15 66:11 50:19,22 51:10,18\n\n98:12 99:15 53:19 101:6 152:14 146:17 154:19\n103:24 119:24 偏好 12:22 203:19 简介 201:12\n120:4 125:4 140:8 准备 162:12 163:1 胜诉 179:4 利润 118:15,19\n143:18 144:9,10 准备工作 16:3 183:11 184:4 118:23 119:14\n151:22 152:20 准备 15:11,12 先前的 153:5 129:13,21,22\n163:17 167:11 15:20 16:10,23 154:7,12,20,25 利润\n14:19,19\n187:23 193:16 17:2,11,15,20 18:6 156:20 118:9,21\n项目\n200:14 205:20 192:12 156:9\n此前 174:25 175:3,9,9\n207:15,25 已准备 15:14 先前 20:8 24:20 179:25 181:4\n加上 154:11 44:3 61:5 62:24 44:25 153:17,18 182:6,12 183:15\nPodhaskie 148:24 正在准备 15:25 155:6 184:5\n149:2,17,20 150:1 已准备\n144:24 私人的\n164:17 项目（复数）\n118:4,7\n点 24:14 26:16 145:20 特权\n146:1 118:23,23 174:21\n32:6 37:1 44:20 出席 3:19 42:12 享有特权的\n16:20 181:3,8\n87:22 124:23 158:10 171:17 可能 148:7 承诺\n196:22\n129:4 180:19 186:2 192:17 195:23 及时地 207:15\n183:11 189:14 提出\n158:4 问题 12:14 发音 17:23\n208:24 总统 42:22,25 32:2,7 40:1 54:9 17:24 39:23 54:12\n指出\n131:21 45:24 46:12 47:20 62:21 112:5 126:2 适当的 125:20\n人口稠密的 43:7 49:4 51:24 52:14 153:24 166:15 165:24\n部分\n186:13 54:19 58:6 65:21 173:5,6 164:11\n适当地\n131:18\n职位 67:25 68:16,18,23 程序 5:14 164:12\n152:13 156:17 90:17 91:15,23 214:19,20 财产\n183:15\n158:2,3 92:9,16 93:5 95:6 进行 10:15 预期的\n职位（复数）\n46:3 97:19 98:2,22 11:11 20:3,13 122:23 174:25\n50:74 99:11 104:12 21:4 174:14 175:2\n占有\n131:4 105:7 110:18 程序 11:4 protonmail.com\n131:10 132:15,19 134:18 136:4 14:17 156:20 214:2\n可能性 102:19 137:9 141:24 196:6 自豪\n20:8\n可能的 36:13 142:5,9 148:24 程序\n9:1 13:19\n提供\n37:24 41:15 96:22 151:10 152:11 9:11 134:21 135:2,9\n139:16 191:12 155:8 159:12 收益 129:2 已提供 114:17\n194:5 204:13 164:6 165:11,15 过程 99:17 136:17 156:9\n潜在的 179:24 166:3 174:17,18 101:22 106:13 214:19 215:8\n165:15\n权力 175:5 178:3,22 154:25 提供者\n154:3\n权力（复数）\n165:10 180:5 181:16 生产\n186:10 提供\n60:15\n14:27 0:6\n精确的 195:6,20 207:15 61:14\n104:4 158:25 紧迫的 30:25 专业的 46:14 提供 99:12\n186:7 101:25\n假装 46:16 47:14,15,22 169:11\n197:22 49:8,9,13,20,25\n\n【公众的—阅读】\n\n公众的\n57:20 70:10 75:22 76:9 问题\n11:12,12 144:12 145:3,25\n\n拉\n192:14 201:23 76:12,25 77:9,13 12:3,5,11,13 14:12 147:9,25 150:8\npullcom.com\n3:13 77:17,22 78:12 16:16,19,21 20:4 153:21 154:5,20\n已拉取\n32:21 79:14,17 80:17,21 21:4,9 22:5,6 155:11 156:25\nPullman\n3:10 8:5 81:4,7,10,13,19 23:10,16 26:22 158:25 159:20\n购买\n105:2,6 86:21 89:14 90:19 27:3 29:7,9 30:16 161:12 162:21\n105:11,15,18,25 92:3 94:9 95:23 30:20 31:1,12,13 165:2,18 166:2\n106:6,23 107:15 96:9 97:14 98:15 31:16 32:9,12 169:5,9,13,21\n197:9 198:8,25 99:4 100:15 33:10,11 34:11 170:10,11 173:9\n199:8 200:4,9,25 104:17 106:2,10 35:12,13,19 36:21 174:13 177:9,13\n201:1,7,11,24,25 106:21 107:14,16 37:20 40:8,16,20 179:18 180:18\n202:18 203:11 107:19,24 109:23 41:22 42:4,10 183:14 188:20\n204:17,18 110:10 113:10,12 43:21 45:4,6,20 191:14,25 195:20\n已购买\n100:25 113:23 114:14 47:6,18,19 48:6 199:25 200:1,23\n101:4 110:10 115:2,17,17,22 49:2,3,7,15,17 201:3 202:8 204:4\n181:13 198:9 116:6,18 117:7,13 50:18,20 51:7,22 204:6 206:16\n199:9 201:22 134:6,22 135:1,8 52:6,9,13,19,20,25 207:23 208:1,17\n购买（复数）\n203:8 135:18 136:2,3 54:4,8,18 56:25 6:1\n问题\n目的\n38:7 137:4,13 138:21 59:14,18,20 62:12 13:15 26:16,18,25\n115:15 116:5 139:11 142:15 63:6,15,18,22 27:7 37:3,7 63:1,8\n118:1 164:25 143:1,4 144:2 64:16 66:6,15 63:16 67:10 87:17\n故意地\n75:23 147:18 148:3,5,10 67:9,16,24 68:15 128:4 129:1\n164:22 148:19 157:8 71:11,22 74:9,9,11 130:17 153:15\n目的（复数）\n18:19 159:3,7,10,22 74:14,15,17,20,23 180:17 205:24\n109:5 117:11 161:2 163:12 75:8,9 76:20,22,24 208:22,25 209:4\n156:21 158:10 164:18 165:21 77:7,8,16,17 78:5 快速的\n166:20\n根据\n5:12 170:18 172:7,12 78:9,10,13 79:5,6 相当\n31:15 134:23\n212:18 175:12,17 177:18 79:9,12 80:9,19 170:5 199:5\n放置\n21:4 29:8 178:2,6,15,20,23 81:13 82:16 84:24 引述\n162:5,5\n44:10 84:6,11 179:16 180:7,20 85:20 88:14,15,22 R\n126:10,13 166:19 182:19 183:1,5 90:22 96:8,11 R\n116:22 147:15,16\n175:19 209:23,23 187:5 189:20 97:25 98:7,25 216:3,3\n推定的\n42:3 191:3,8 194:16,16 102:15 103:25 R&S\n215:1,9\nQ 195:24,25 199:4,8 109:10 116:17 提出\n8:20 9:5,15\nQiang\n17:4 24:24 199:11,12,15,17 119:21 121:2,6 提出\n90:23\n30:8 31:25 32:5 199:22 200:8 122:10 123:13 范围\n104:5 108:8\n34:14 38:21 39:12 201:7,12 206:11 125:3,19,21 比率\n186:24 187:3\n39:21 40:3,8,17,24 206:21 126:20,24 128:5 187:7,11,13\n41:6 45:9 46:2 质量\n154:9 130:4 131:6,12 189:16\n48:9 53:20 55:3 争吵\n96:6 132:25 133:8,9 阅读\n21:8 23:18\n68:10,24 69:10,18 140:4 143:15,22 47:17 48:1 61:16\n\n【阅读—重新诉讼】\n\n64:14 66:1 68:4 回忆 13:25 14:15 66:24\n休庭 重新表述\n80:19\n\n75:1 84:3,17,19 14:16 19:2 25:22 112:15 126:1,6 21:3 35:25\n刷新\n93:4 144:18 145:9 25:23 32:18 33:25 174:5 36:20,22 169:1\n146:8 157:23 34:23,24 35:1 复述 95:3 96:10 刷新\n169:14\n168:24 170:14 40:23 41:5,10,12 识别 43:16 拒绝\n106:5\n171:17 203:4,7,14 44:3,4,16 45:12,13 已识别 43:22 178:17,20,22\n203:15 205:14,17 45:16,23 59:2,4,6 14:2\n回想 关于 74:24\n211:5 59:8 60:22,22 记忆 21:3 79:14 80:10\n阅读 13:4,9 61:2,9 64:19,20,22 35:25 64:17 151:5 关于 30:6\n31:14 36:22 37:18 65:5,7,8 67:8 68:5 151:6 169:2,14 51:4 180:25\n39:17 85:2,4 69:20,23,24 70:1 187:18 关于 79:7\n146:15 214:23 70:18 71:1,6 73:9 重新开庭 112:7 141:4\n215:9 80:24 82:7,9,11,12 记录 7:6,22 团 195:24\n22:5 33:10\n阅读 82:17,18,21 83:2,8 29:18,19 66:11,22 登记\n4:19\n真实的 47:15 51:9,13 87:10,11,17 90:13 67:1 112:13,17 43:24 56:10\n51:17 86:5 114:10 96:3,13,18,21,23 116:10 126:4,8,11 定期的\n151:15,16\n115:20 117:21,24 97:1,5,5,9,11,16 126:14 157:23 201:8\n117:24 118:9,11 97:17 100:9 103:8 158:6 165:18 定期地\n150:25\n166:20 180:4 104:7,8,11,18 166:10 170:25,25 驳回 106:10,11\n181:4 182:6 105:12,16,19,23 174:3,7 192:23 194:17,19\n183:15,19 184:4 106:9,25 110:23 200:22 209:5 驳回\n194:24 115:5,10 117:8 已记录 7:8 86:1 相关的 39:8,10\n确实 26:6 65:12 127:25 134:11,12 189:8 190:12,13 80:22 114:10\n80:14 97:1 103:12 134:13 139:15,17 190:18,21 118:11 130:7\n121:10 142:1 140:19,20 141:2 记录员 85:3 146:18 194:3\n195:1 197:19 145:23,24 147:10 记录 23:25 212:21\n200:2,2 147:12,13 149:18 189:11 207:16 涉及\n26:3\n房地产经纪人\n51:13,14 149:19,23,24 招募 关系\n18:16\n13:18,20\n理由 166:11,13,16 152:11 42:2 45:1 129:20\n24:25 39:22 50:17 169:10 171:11,21 提及 175:7\n53:9 75:14 76:11 171:23,24 172:1 30:7 38:21 39:17 相对地\n36:8\n84:12 87:21 97:15 178:10 186:3,6 52:10 53:20 84:25 亲属\n85:16\n119:21 125:12 187:9,12 191:11 引用 44:25 获释 214:21\n153:7 154:21 191:13,19 193:10 155:2,18 相关性 38:5\n172:22 173:12,14 194:5,12 206:10 被提及 214:6 41:22 42:6,11\n175:20 181:15 概述 188:23 被称为 24:25 116:2\n195:12 216:6,9,12 收据\n99:22 207:17 相关性\n129:5\n216:15,18,21 收到 100:1,8 提及 22:4 相关的 65:18\n理由 71:17 148:6,15,16 38:16 39:1 85:5 66:4,4\n125:17 172:25 100:5\n已收到 90:3,4 38:7\n重新诉讼\n173:1\n\nPAX-015-081\n\n【依赖—权利】\n\n依赖\n54:15 被替换\n148:23 请求\n46:5,10 恢复\n24:4,5\n\n保持\n165:9 149:6 90:19 92:3 100:15 审查\n15:6,10,16\n仍然\n174:11 答复\n32:12 104:17 134:8 15:18 99:16\n记得\n14:1 33:20 183:14 173:21 177:11,12 100:11 101:21,24\n18:3 28:12 30:20 185:20 188:20 177:14,17 178:5 195:10 196:10\n35:9 36:7,11,15 答复\n123:18 169:6 192:14 201:23 199:1 200:6,10\n37:19 61:18 63:15 195:19 212:19 215:1,9,10 201:5 212:19\n63:20 79:25 85:25 报告\n101:15 请求\n92:18 214:8,10,13 215:2\n98:17 105:14 106:10 107:16 119:13 190:7 复兴\n5:6 166:13\n109:20 138:17,22 151:19 168:18 请求\n131:3 166:14 167:16\n155:1 166:20 172:24 194:16 194:1,11,12 168:19 173:8\n169:9 171:10 已报告\n1:25 要求\n107:23 倒带\n87:13\n176:15,19 186:25 书记员\n7:19 8:18 保留\n20:10 节奏\n151:20\n187:1,2,15 191:15 8:20 9:5,15,25 158:7 权利\n8:20 9:5,15\n192:17,18 196:13 10:7,13 11:22 保留的\n13:1 18:13 20:10 21:14\n提醒\n162:3 76:18 210:2,5 居住\n71:13,15 21:15 22:16 23:1\n166:17 212:6 72:2,5,8 73:1 23:6 24:16 30:3\n已提醒\n36:13 报告\n192:9,13 居住过\n72:24 31:13 33:24 36:13\n159:14 代表\n7:25 住所\n71:18 36:15,18 39:15\n提醒\n67:22 14:9 172:11,19 206:9,25 40:6,7 42:24\n提醒\n71:10 陈述 已解决\n149:11 48:15,17 51:4,14\n远程\n1:14 25:4 尊重\n129:3 53:2,23,25 54:1\n远程地\n11:21 代表 156:14,20 182:24 56:1,4,18 57:1,15\n146:1 1:16 9:19 15:3 182:24 190:11 59:23 60:25 61:7\n作出\n211:9 44:24 90:9 201:6 61:15,24 62:20\n租金\n161:20 被代表 受尊重的\n165:16 64:5 65:18 66:7\n206:21 156:18 172:7 回应\n47:5 69:4,15 73:20\n已租赁\n111:12 代表\n8:3,5 休息\n151:13 75:20 76:3,7,12\n重新开启\n158:24 8:8,10,12 洗手间\n66:18 79:12,23 82:13\n已偿还\n158:18,21 代表\n26:8 结果\n181:23 88:2 89:5,16 91:6\n163:15 184:11 172:9 212:22 91:25 92:11,20\n偿还\n206:1 请求\n45:11 保留\n138:25 94:4,6,10,21 98:8\n重复\n16:16 49:23 58:23 99:5 106:5 147:18 209:11 98:19 101:6,15\n52:18 54:3,8 111:22 131:9 返回\n25:25 102:4,17 103:10\n92:15 97:25 131:8 132:18,23 133:3 214:17 215:6 106:19 108:1,20\n143:17 147:4 133:15,20 134:4 已返回\n149:12 110:8 111:1,23\n152:20 134:14 156:21 返回\n123:13 116:24 117:9\n重复的\n156:19 186:9,9,16 192:16 回报\n123:15 119:16 121:21\n重新表述\n12:12 195:22 207:12,12 收入\n118:20 124:6 125:15\n191:25 207:14 123:23 124:7,7 127:11,22 128:2\n129:16 130:13\n\n131:17 132:5 52:2,18 54:23 D 170:4 186:9 190:6\n\n135:24 136:20 65:11,18 66:10 2:5 4:9 5:4 18:15\nS 192:23 196:22\n137:2 141:6,25 67:14 71:16,23 34:1 38:14,23 207:1,12\n142:7 145:11 90:2,12,22 92:13 81:6 115:15 125:7 172:22\n屏幕\n148:13,22,25 94:17 95:18 147:15,16 148:25 209:24\n149:4,13,14,15 103:23 111:15,20 171:25 185:4 滚动\n88:7\n151:18 154:9,16 111:22 112:10 216:3 116:13\n座位\n155:10 158:7 116:1,10 119:24 108:25 141:8\n安全 第二\n19:11,19\n159:17 160:19 121:5 122:9.17 安全\n125:12 19:25 20:1 50:7\n162:2,18 163:3 123:4 124:19 153:7 196:1 55:3 70:13 84:5\n167:10,22 171:16 125:24 126:12,18 197:21\nSaks（萨克斯） 119:25 151:23\n172:2 173:16 126:23 128:3,21 198:16,19 166:18 176:22\n177:2,20 179:16 129:11.24 130:14 Sarnoff（萨尔诺夫） 2:15 8:13 188:21 207:25\n179:17 181:9.17 131:1 140:6.8 8:13 132.8\n秒\n181:19,25 183:2,3 143:12 150:7,16 保存 44:7 205-23 138:20 163:17\n183:18,21 189:17 153:11,14 156:8 23:15 50:18\n看见 205:20\n190:19 194:20 157:19 158:12 140:23 145:16,21 秘密 132:17\n197:13.14 198:12 159:18 161:4,8 199:6 秘书 42:23,25\n200:10 202:20 165:5,17 166:9 说 54:13 65:25 45:25 46:13 47:20\n203:16 204:15 170:2,11 186:16 92:12 94:13 95:1 49:4 97:20 98:2\n207:20 208:21 187:23 188:13 说 20:1,19 51:8 110:19 134:18\n209:2 210:1 190:8 191:23 56:13,17 58:5 142:6 166:4\n权利\n127:2 193:3 203:25 84:5 89:9 107:8 保障\n3:10\n风险\n158:4 175:20 204:2 207:7,20,22 167:23,23,24 108:25\n46:12 68:14\n角色 209:21,23 210:2,4 168:2,12 172:22 证券\n198:6\n68:16,22 70:17 210:6 197:24 安全 71:16\n74:20 77:18,23 Rosen's（罗森的）\n17:22 日程\n214:10 124:19 150:9\n78:1,12,15 79:2,3 210:5\n粗略 日程表\n191:21 157:20,23 158:4\n90:15 97:19,21 Rudnick（鲁德尼克） 2:4 8:7,10 192:5 185:9 195:23\n98:4.6.21 180:15 18:6 计划 124:23 196:2\n180:17 规则 5:13 212:18 范围 20:12 41:25 19:15 20:15,18\n看见\n角色 47:19 142:15 规则 5:14 164:5 65:22 130:18 20:19 21:18 22:1\n149:3 164:14 215:8 Scott（斯科特） 2:21 8:2 22:11 23:10,13\n3:6\n房间 46:6 195-15\n朗姆酒 12:24 13:5 17:22 26:13 28:20 29:15\nRosen（罗森） 2:21 8:1.2 运行 79:17,20 17:25 42:16 65:2 32:1 36:20 41:2\n12:20,25 13:3,7 80:14 97:14 65:14 67:7 71:22 42:11 57:6,10,20\n16:11 17:25 19:21 Russo（鲁索） 3:19 8:11,11 73:4 87:2 90:6 57:23 58:13 71:7\n19:23 20:3,10 19:14 125:1 126:10,18 76:5 83:10 88:14\n26:1,13,25 37:1 130:25 145:25 89:1 114:21\n38:3 41:19 42:9 150:12 156:16 122:20 136:7\n42:17 44:19 45:3 157:25 161:6 148:7 149:10\n\n［看见—分类］\n\n167:15 168:6 七 5:15 35:8 185:23,24 186:2 185:3,7 195:23\n\n196:13 197:7 46:23 47:8 188:10,11 189:15 199:25 200:13\n198:3,6,7 204:16 第七 85:11 189:16 208:17\n205:6 2:21 8:2\nShea（谢伊） 签署 12:21 13:4 姐妹 84:10\n看见 169:13 Sherry（谢里） 72:21 13:8 64:12,24 19:10\n坐\n41:6 145:23\n已看见 196:8.14\n鞋 171:10 47:1,3,4 73:21\n六\n184:15 198:19 201:7 Silverberg（西尔弗伯格） 2:5 8:9 73:25 77:20,24\n197:21 201:2\n看见 商店\n196:21 197:6 8:9 78:22 88:8, 14\n141:4 154:22\n发送 199:7 2011:9,9 类似地 50:10 173:7,17\n195:16 201:10 购物\n199:6,24 简单 49:16 74:3,8\n六十\n202:10\n发送 203:16 155:11 尺寸\n130:11\n32:5 70:7\n感觉 商店\n196:19,20 仅仅 26:16 技能\n154:18\n120:13 202:2 197:6,7 199:4,22 单一 63:18 19:13\n显示\n敏感 128:25 201:8 105:14 小 22:22 88:8\n130-8 短 66:24 125:25 先生 12:7,17 13:20 195:21 196:4\n156:10\n敏感性 126:6 134:23 14:7 16:15 20:19 141:5\n社会\n发送 21:24 136:4 138:4,8 21:14 22:12 25:11 招揽\n137:16\n判决 51:758:4 173:21 174:5 27:13,23 32:5,12 解决方案 7:18,20\n58:13 61:16 62:23 速记 212:5 33:20 36:3 37:24 209:11 214:7\n84:17 19:5221:7\n显示 38:12,16,24 39:15 某人 113:25\n47:17\n判决 26:2 28:13 43:3 39:20 40:7,11 155:22\n202:3\n单独 47:6\n已显示 43:11,20 45:20 39:13,18 40:6\n儿子\n九月 22:7 170:17\nShulman（舒尔曼） 46:17 47:25 49:11 74:15 76:22 77:1\n认真地 174:23 170:24 171:18,22 50:4 51:4 52:6 77:5 84:8 85:11\n送达 51:25 52:15 171:24 172:9,11 56:3,5 61:8 62:12 96:4 106:16,23\n54:21 58:8 69:11 172:18 63:16 64:8,22 177:22 180:11\n88:16 119:8 124:21\n关闭 67:21 69:3,16 199:20\n68:1,19,24\n已送达 61:18 103:6\n原文如此 71:3 72:10,22 儿子的\n89:21 107:10\n问 183.8\n一方 76:4 78:5,6 80:19 15:21 16:15\n抱歉\n送达 93:18 签名 92:21 185:21 82:11 83:22 84:22 19.12.22.25.23.8\n95:12 120:24 214:16 215:5 88:2 91:6 92:1,24 44:6 45:19 46:20\n124:8 签名 56:1,25 93:12 97:24 100:2 52:10,11 56:3\n服务\n120:9 57:21 167:19 102:15 103:21 57:13 70:13 91:5\n148:12 213:3 214:21.23 104:7 108:8,24,24 97:24 98:6 104:2\n送达 91:13 95:9 214:23 215:9 111:24 123:10 121:9 144:22\n113:21,22\n设定 已签署 57:7 59:1 124:13 138:19 145:2 147:23\n114:4.5.7 117:15 61:17,25 62:1,3.6 151:9 153:21 152:22 153:23\n170:15 195:17 62:8,17,18,19 63:9 156:3 164:12 167:2,10 171:5\n212:11 63:13,24 64:1,3,9 166:17 167:3 184:22 200:17\n设定 128:4,6 64:20 66:9 67:6 169:5,21 170:12 分类 114:9 141:12\n67:23 91:12 171:8 179:13 183:14 202:19\n\n［分类—开始］\n\n分类\n89:25 18: 15, 16, 17, 18,20 109:4, 11, 13, 18,21 187:4 188:25\n\n声音\n18:13 33:24 18:21,24 21 :5 109:22,25 110:7 190: 14,18 191: 10\n149:4 209: 1 22:8 23: 11,20,24 110: 14, 17,20,25 192:3, 11, 15\n听起来\n11:10 18:4 23 :25 24:2,3, 12, 13 111:11,17 113:21 193: 18 194:2, 7,8\n33:17 204:19 24: 14, 18,21,23 114:12,15,23 195:4,7, 15,22\n来源\n115:7 25:6,16,18 27:6,10 115:8,12,14,16 198:22,24 199: 14\n118:17,18,20 27: 15 28:9 30:8 116:5,8 117:6, 10 201: 10,23 202:7\n119:2 123:14,17 32:10,13,15,19 118:7,14 119:4,13 202: 10 206:8, 13\n123:20 124:9 33: 12, 18,20,25 119:13,18,23 206:22 207: 14\n159: 1,5 160:24 34: 1,3,4, 7,9,9, 13 120: 12,20,23,24 208:5,8 209:9\n162:10,23 34: 16,22,25 35: 14 121:1,4,15 122:1,7 Spring's（斯普林的）\n102:22\n说话\n13 :6 54: 11 35:20 36:2,24 122:13,20,21 121: 19 124:21\n54:15 70:10 37:21 38: 1,18 123:8,13 124:11 125: 14,22 126:25\n126: 16 139: 18 40:9,18,22 41:4,17 125:7 126:21 128:23 129: 17\n140:5 151:5,7 42:2,5,21 43:25 127:7,8,9, 17 190:23\n155:5 44: 15, 17,21,25 128:12,19,20 广场\n2:6,7, 16,17\n发言人\n58:20 45:7, 17,21,25 46:6 129: 14 130: 11, 15 3:11\n59:22 46: 13 47: 10,21 131:3,9 132:18,21 直接地\n65:20\n说话\n11 :23 49:5, 19 50:24 132:22,23 133 :7 srosen\n2:24\n12:4 15: 13 158:22 51:24 52: 14 54 :20 133:16 134:19 ss\n211:1212:1\n说话\n170:3 58:6,21,22,23 135:2,9 136:1,17 ssarnoff 2: 19\n具体\n26: 18 27: 1 59:21 65:21 67:25 137:7,10 140:25 印章\n167:23\n107:23 126:24 68: 10, 11, 16,23 141:24 148:6,12 站立\n11:8 45:3\n175:20 195: 19 69:2,8,9,13,14,18 148:15,18 150:2,6 132:3\n具体地\n113:9 70:16 71:4,12 150:20 151: 11,25 站立\n132: 1,9, 11\n129: 19 188: 1 72: 1,8 73 :22,24 152:19,24 153:1 132:15\n指定\n140:8 74:21,24 77: 18,21 153:10 156:1,6,18 开始\n12:3,20 23 :25\n推测\n97: 11 77:25 78:12,19 157:3,22 158: 16 29:10,23 30:10,17\n127:21 79:7, 15, 18 80:5, 11 158: 17,20 159: 13 30:19 31:1,14,17\n拼写\n17:5 38: 12 80: 12, 13, 18,22 160:21,24 163:21 32: 10 71:4 78:6\n已拼写\n39:9 81:3,6 86:22 90:4 164:10,14 165:16 118:22 173: 18\n花费\n17:6 173:18 90:9, 18 91: 16, 17 165:22 166:4,5,14 174:20\n说过\n135: 18,21 91:18,24 92:9,16 168:9 169:3,3, 15 开始\n10:22\n已说\n115:3,6 93:6 95:4,24 97:2 169: 16,23,25 24:11,17 28:8\n139: 13 140: 14 97:20 98:3,23 170: 14,20 171: 14 30:13 31:18,19,19\n180: 12 191: 16 99:11100:16 172:10 173:1,4 31:20 32:13 33:18\n209:20 102:7,23,25 103:4 174:16 175:3,13 34:4 36:2,24\nSpring（斯普林）\n2:21 4:20 103 :7,9 104:6, 10 176:23 177:7,14 37:22 38: 1 40:9\n5:3,11 7: 10 8:3 104: 13,14,17,22 177: 18 178: 1,3 40:18,22 41:3,17\n15:3,20 16:9,22 104:24 105:8 180:5 184: 10 42:5,20 69:8,9, 14\n17:2,4,10 18:9, 11 107: 15,18 108:3 185:3 186:9,14 71: 12,25 72:7\n\n［开始—谈话］\n\n73:21,24 77:21,24 Stuart（斯图尔特）\n2: 15 8: 13 补充 t\n\n78:23 81:3 87:6 东西\n141:10,18 207:12 209:14 t\n4:9 147: 15,16\n117: 18,24 194:23 195:5 用品\n208: 12 216:3,3\n开始\n31 :23 202:3 支持\n82:3 尾部\n74:9\n32:3 42:3 85:5 主题\n88: 12 89:16,21,25 91:19 拿取\n23 :9 33 :7\n州\n3:11 7:21 113 :20 133: 17,20 92:2 93: 18,23 35:2,8 55:9 58:21\n9:25 10:5, 12 57:8 134:5 146: 11 94:4, 15 118:4,6 66: 16,19 69: 10\n167: 16 168:22 163:20 176:15 119:8,13 127:9 84: 19 91: 18 96: 1\n211: 1 212: 1,6 已提交\n43: 19 128: 16 147:24 96:4 98: 16 99:5,6\n214:9,12 从属 182:22 100: 11,16 102:2\n陈述\n68: 18 98: 15 130:21 有支持的\n118:8 108: 10,10 109:6\n陈述\n157:22 被传唤 支持\n114:3 111: 15,20 112:4\n191:22 192:5 129: 16 假定\n50:20 125:25 139:2\n州\n1:13:4,4 订阅\n211: 11 应当\n92:8 141:17 143:5\n7:12 25:10,12,15 实质\n211:8 118:21 124:6 148:6,11,16 158:7\n25: 19,24 27:21 证实 130:18 159: 11 160: 1,4,10\n28:5 91: 13 115: 19 186: 12 最高\n57:8 160: 13,18 161:2\n117:13 125:23 成功\n175:4 确定\n12:23 21:23 161: 13,19,22,23\n停留\n27: 12 39:21 成功\n206:5 22: 15 24: 10 26:5 162:4,17,22\n51:3 66:7 87:3 成功的\n174: 15 42:24 54:9 62: 15 173:22,25 180:9\n102:1207:2 175:8,17,22 176:3 63: 18 90:21,23 181:23,23 186:17\n已停留\n73 :3, 7 176:5 97:21 99:5 102: 18 195:12 197:11\n停留\n27: 12 成功地 103:15 104:1,1 207:23\n停留\n206:9 120:25 106: 12 112:2 已拿取\n4: 13 7: 10\n速记术\n212: 14 被起诉\n58:9 120:2,5 131: 15 66:24 98:25\n坚持\n40:3 203:21 充分\n158: 10 140: 10 142:4 112: 15 126:6\n约定\n214:20 建议\n31 :3 112:7 143:16 167:6 127:2 174:5\n约定\n12:21 163:6 172:4,15 182:2 186: 14 212: 10\n12:25 建议\n32:7 188:2,23 192: 1 拿取\n112:7\n停止\n12:4 66:3 33:22 60:24 61:3 203:19 205:10,10 才能\n154:9\n商店\n202:9, 10 155: 12 164:24 幸存者\n48: 12 谈话\n69:21 70: 1,2,2\n商店\n197:6 197: 17 Suzanne（苏珊娜）\n1:25 7: 19 80:8 99:7 131:22\n战略性\n14: 18,19 诉讼\n194:9 197:21 112:6 212:5 213:4 140:1151:20\n街道\n2: 12,22 3:6 197:25 宣誓\n8:18 176:21\n7:3 184:20 185:3 Sunny（桑尼）\n3:17 8:23 宣誓\n62:7 65:17 谈过\n69:24 70:8\n190:3 10:6 40: 15 52:8 91:12 70:9 126: 18\n严格地\n38:7 超级\n12:1,9 13:21 已宣誓\n9:1,11,21 176:18 195:9\n强烈地\n129:8 43:13 57:2160:1561:14 谈话\n22:18,21\n156:22 监督 212:9 32:24 65:23 71: 19\n结构\n37:9 212: 15 系统\n10: 12 71:20 72:5,7 77:1\n117: 16 84:15,25 85:12\n\n［谈话—时间］\n\n91:1,3,792:5 86:4,6 131:14 185:10 188:14 想法\n107:1\n\n100:2 125:15 146:19 190:9 201:17 威胁 84:11\n136:19 177:3 条款 144:5,11,16 205:22 209:3 86:2\n180:1,2 181:4 186:20 189:17 谢谢\n163:19 三 4:22,24\n182:9 205:3,4 191:1 166:25 21:14 29:20 30:2\n207:19 可怕的\n85:16 据此 212:23 30:2 36:6,9,14\n任务 36:5 45:11 测试 48:15 171:5 据此 211:10 43:4,10 48:17\n46:9 58:23 作证 9:22 事情 55:21 84:4 49:1.10 51:5\n45:14\n任务 30:23 40:5 48:13 95:14 105:14 56:22 57:1,13,14\n168:17\n税款 50:11 89:12 97:13 108:25 141:12 65:7,17 84:3,18\n172:23 104:20 120:16 182:18 127:15 168:2\n团队 157:23 161:8 181:10 事情 11:20 47:8 170:17 184:5\n174:19 183:20 185:2 66:17 85:16 89:25 紧密\n19:11\n技术上 24:2 204:2 92:22 97:7 99:9 18:1.2\nTim（蒂姆）\n170:20 作证 44:24 48:24 99:13 107:22,23 时间 11:23 17:6,8\n电话 16:9,22 80:11 94:19 95:15 127:15,20 136:20 24:4,6,23 25:2,5\n告诉\n29:5 31:18 191:24 182:1 194:9 195:1 25:13,16,18,25\n35:6 43:16 46:4,8 作证 48:7 198:25 199:19,21 27:20 28:4 34:11\n47:2 58:2,15 61:23 64:5 75:18 200:4 34:22,25 35:4\n59:25 73:13 74:6 90:8 159:13 认为 13:18,20 37:22 38:18 40:17\n81:18,21,23 83:21 证言 4:12 24:9 34:8 41:21 40:24 41:3,9,17\n86:22 93:10 94:3 13:19 15:8 26:12 50:11 58:25 62:14 42:5 44:8 49:18\n97:10 99:15 109:3 29:19 36:5,12 66:10,16 86:3 54:8 62:13,15,17\n109:25 110:5 37:23 48:2,8,15,16 93:8 94:12 100:21 62:18 63:23 64:9\n113:25 117:9 51:2,2 60:15 117:4119:15 66:23 67:2,15\n125:13 128:18 61:14 63:3 64:7 129:6 140:15,18 69:4,18 80:24\n134:12 138:2 75:25 76:3 94:12 150:11 156:11 83:6 84:19 94:24\n144:2 159:25 94:15,19 96:20 157:24 160:14 96:4,12,17,20 97:6\n160:2 175:21 106:14 132:24 166:19 167:1,24 98:10,14,18\n184:1,1,2 198:17 159:15,19 161:5,7 181:25 182:10 103:18 104:8\n199:1 188:4 209:7 183:10,23 190:16 106:14,18 112:14\n告知 19:14 212:16 194:25 200:1 112:18 123:8\n194:24 感谢 8:17 10:13 201:13 203:4 124:13 126:5,9\n17:8,9 22:4\n十 10:14 11:18 12:8 205-24 127:24 134:23\n23:9 33:8 66:19 12:18 16:7 40:2,4 思考 75:13 136:4 138:4,4,8,12\n117:3 163:17 55:767:17 71:8 三十 21:11,14,16 139:4 140:8,17\n167:24 185:16,18 71:23 78:8 84:21 21:20 22:4,12 143:15 144:14\n提交\n160:21 84:23 88:6 111:23 23:2,6,9 33:1,7 145:16 148:22\n提交 191:5 113:19 126:19 132:8 205:19 156:3 162:9,23,25\n81:8,14\n期限 129:11 156:15 想法 128:3 163:3,13 166:5\n84:13 85:19,22,24 167:7 173:20 171 · 4 167:24 168:16\n\n[时间 - 转向]\n\n169:15,23,24 告知\n35:18,19 43:8 翻译\n11:13 75:10,11 77:13\n\n173:17,18 174:4,8 60:1761:12 63:8 11:14 12:14 65:6 78:3,10 79:13,13\n176:16,18 195:2 63:9,10 65:23 83:6 89:6 79:15 80:11,16,18\n203:10 205:23 79:24 87:5,7 89:3 翻译 31:16 80:20 81:2,5,8,14\n209:3 212:11 91:12 110:24 89:4.24 94:5 85:22:23 89:11\n214:10,18,24 133:19,22 135:15 译员\n88:24 91:12 97:14 108:6\n215:7 137:22,24,24 92:23 93:2,10,19 108:22 169:22\n次数 2:6,7,16,17 138:20 139:2 95:10,11 131:5 175:24 183:4\n26:17 66:1 82:15 145:7 148:10 200:15 193:17 211:9.13\n95:3 105:17,22 162:21 176:11,13 111:13\n运输 212:15\n138:21 139:20,22 179:14 180:6,9,11 运输 160:16\n信托\n139:24 140:1,18 199:18 99:10 107:13,22 3:4 8:16\n受托人\n151:3 159-14 舌头\n11:6 108:11 109:11,17 146.18 194.25\n184:6 200:8 204:2 今晚 210:7 111:1,3 196:7\n204:4 208:4 顶部 56:1 57:1 74:8 旅行 25:19 26:14 真相 50:5 80:23\n时机\n182:4 187:22 26:17 27:4 40:12 如实 13:19\n蒂莫西\n18:1 话题 44:20 87:14 111:7 31:21 59:25 61:22\n头衔 42:21 89:17 94:20 174:14 曾旅行 23:23 62:1,3,9 63:3 64:2\n93:19 95:1,2 话题 15:6, 10 20:5 24:7 27:16,17 64:6\n头衔 44:15 45:2 20:9 26:2 37:7,8 109:7 如实地 13:16\n49:19 65:24 95:3 38:6 41:25 65:19 旅行 108:13,23 尝试 11:7 12:12\n98:22 137:10 160:23,23 117:14 37:13 71:21 76:18\n142:5,7 180:16 总计\n187:16 财务主管 42:23,25 87:14 98:10,14\n今天 11:5 13:19 209:10 45:25 46:13 47:20 129:9 138:14\n15:2,7,8,12,20,25 塔楼 2:6,16 49:4 97:20 98:2 150:13 169:12\n16:24 17:2 36:3 交易 103:9 104:12 试图 26:6,9 32:7\n49:2665:19 92:20 197:20 110:18 122:13,20 50:25 51:1 65:16\n94:15.20 109:5 誊录 128:2 134:19 70:7 92:7 93:5.8\n115:22 130:22 212:14 142:6,12 159:12 95:13 111:9 114:7\n131:21 136:19 笔录 4:12,16 164:6 165:11,15 116:3,7 128:11\n140:13 150:2 13:4,9 20:8 21:11 166:4 180:5 195:6 135:14 136:13,13\n158:9 159:13 21:25 22:21 31:2 审判 4:16 13:1 143:10 163:6,9\n162:13 163:1 36:22 37:18 39:17 96:20 172:15 180:3,14\n176:16 182-9 48:1 50:16 51:8 尝试过 92:23 165:9 180:16 184:22\n209:4 76:20 85:3 93:4 尝试\n197:25 196:23 197:19\n今天的 16:10 210:3 212:16,18 194:9 195:12\n行程 200-23\n17:11,16,20 18:7 214:6,8,10,13,13 196:3 星期二 1:18 7:2\n18:19 116:12 214:21 215:2.2 真实 51:3,11,23 212:10\n133:17,21 134:5 翻译 40:19 52:15 54:20 62:6 转向 29:3 73:10\n209:7,20 59:16 82:22 89:6 62:17,19 63:13 87:23\n89:15 92:10,19 67:24 69:1,7 75:4\n\n[转向 - 到访]\n\n转向\n118:19 40:13 49:1 50:1 理解 13:10 204:3,7\n用户\n\n十二 84:2,17 51:6 52:6 59:14 20:14 61:6 64:21 202-22\n使用\n157:15 59:19 60:13 61:12 76:15 97:18 204:18 205:7.8,9\n二十 4:18 59:5 63:2,10,11 64:10 107:20 120:3 12:25\n通常\n84:3.18 88:13 64:11,12,14,16,25 121:12 148:11 V\n139:24 140:1 66:8 70:5 79:18 161:25 171:7 2:11\nV\n153:15 86:21,23 89:15,20 182:7 195:23 模糊\n165:19\n4:14 19:18\n两个 90:22 92:1 93:8 201:13 价值\n127:6\n20:20 28:16 30:2 94:25 95:2.2.5.13 无证件的 128.5\n价值\n47:17 67:12,12 98:25 106:13 186:5 26:17\n74:10 85:9 97:7 110:13 123:25 144:15\n不熟悉的 各种\n136:20 149:3 124:20 129:6 不幸的是 车辆\n111:7.10\n152:1,3,4,6 182:1 130:4 131:6 170:6 车辆\n109:19\n182:16 203:21 132:25 136:14,16 统一 10:11 181:12,20 182:8\n108:20\n类型 136:19.25 143:10 7.8\n单位 182:25 183:1\n类型\n99:19 111:17 146:2,9 153:21 美国 1:1 3:4,4 99.22\n供应商\n通常 119:7 156:17 158:1 7:12 25:10,12,15 100:6 101:1.3\nu 160:12 177:4.23 25:19,24 27:21 供应商\n118:12\n179:11,13 180:14 28-5 115-19 193:5.7\nVerdolino（维尔多利诺）\n17:5 30:9 38:23\nU 180:16 182:1,14 117:13 125:23 核实 99:16,17\n38:24 39:9,9,12 186:16 188:19,23 单位 209:10 100:13,19,25\n86:14 112:24 189:13,13 190:8 不必要地 101:7,14,18,20\n116:22 147:15\n171:25 192:19,24 195:3,8 196:24 102:3.8.9 197:8,8\n8:16 23:23 196:23 197:19 不专业的 198:9 199:8,14\n200:10\n美国\n24:8 27:17 114:8 200:24 201:18 52:11\n125:8 126:22 202:4 207:19,22 8:6\n无担保的 核实中 101:1\nVeritext（Veritext 法律解决方案）7:18,20\n142:23 146:18 理解 不愿意\n128:18\n194:25 196:7 31:16 36:4 39:16 130:11 209:11 214:7,9,11\n视频 7:8 16:6\n呃 54:2 137:19 58:19 68:9,13,14 上传\n19:13 视频会议\n155:16 78:15 79:3,20,22 138:8\n紧急性 16:9,23\n英国 27:17 115:24 92:4 113:22,25 127:1\n可用性 摄像师 3:16\n116:18 117:7 114:22 119:8 128:23 7:5,18 8:17 10:14\n148:5 199:17,20 122:25 123:22 usdoj.gov 3:8 66:19,21,25\n最终 109:23 129:18 131:17 使用 53:19 90:3 112:12,16 126:3,7\nUna（乌娜）3:18 9:8 148:14 154:17 98:11 102:22 174:2,6 209:1,5\n理解 11:9 155:9,22 159:23 104:14 109:1 录像 1:14\n11:24 12:11,23 161:20 162:6 120:2 133:11 42:1 183:11\n观点\n14:3 15:2 21:22 163:14 171:19 144:8 200:15 虚拟地 7:15\n22:19,19 24:9 180:4 199:10 202:23,24 203:1,3 愿景\n14:18,20\n26:24 27:13,18 205:25 206:3,7 203:7,8,23 204:9 到访 72:22\n204:10\n30:1 32:8 40:12\n\nPAX-015-089\n\n[无效 - 证人]\n\n无效\n166:7 168:17 119:22 121:3,23 190:11 197:2 前往 30:4 144:19\n\n169:4.19 170:1 121:25 122:6,21 201:2 209:2,8 162:13\n171:15 172:23 136:18 139:13,18 211:4 212:8 214:1 诸如此类 158:23\n173:2,13 140:14,21 149:21 214:5 216:2 38-5\n任何\nW 151:7,14 172:19 想要 21:7 24:10 所在之处\n38:14 39:9,13,13\nW 176:23 177:6,16 27:1 32:6 39:23 26:17 42:12\n39:14,14 177:19 178:8,15 55:21 60:18 62:14 吹哨 117:18\n等待 12:2,4 19:9 178:17 186:1 66:2,2,7 71:17 101:13 103:6\n妻子\n43:7 78:7 187:7,10 189:1,16 84:4 86:20 88:1 103:13 104:5,9,14\n等待 78:8 189:20 191:6,9,16 90:21,23 106:12 201:24 202:1,24\n13:4,8\n放弃 192:13 193:20 108:24 125:3 204:9,20 205:15\n已放弃 195:11 196:2 126:10 127:20 205:16,17\n214:23,23\n放弃中 214:20 199:19 200:4,24 129:1 150:13.18 妻子的 201:21\n步行\n196: 9 201:1,6,24 204:20 154:8 175:19 202:1\n197:20\n步行 204:21 205:11 176:21 181:15 Wilkinson（威尔金森）3:18 9:8\n1:8 2:5 7:11 206:1,14 214:4 182:2,20 208:25 53:16\nWan（万）\n8:8 39:18 40:6 216:1 想要\n111:7 William（威廉）\n170:16,19\n41:16,24 42:1 Wan 的 68:20 77:1 201:14 172:3,9\n45:18,22 52:1,16 93:14 106:23 106:24\n想要 Williams（威廉斯）\n172:2.7\n52:22 53:5,7,9,13 Wang（王）1:17 4:13,23 197:21 198:1 172:19\n53:21 54:22 58:10 7:99:18 10:19 200:5,24 愿意 82:4\n58:16 66:7 68:2,6 13:12 20:2,18 2:13\nWashington（华盛顿） 胜诉\n206:4\n68:11 70:16 72:3 27:9 28:21 32:21 3:7 希望\n1 20:0\n72:9,17 77:4 81:4 37:17 38:11 42:8 方式 19:24 27:1 撤回 43:21\n81:9,15,16,21 82:1 42:20 43:10 45:6 54:12 71:22 80:7 已撤回\n17:18\n82:10.19.23 83:7 49:12 52:13 53:19 120:14 133:13 65:1 72:19 147:20\n84:15 85:1,13,19 55:14 56:17 67:4 138:14 143:9 177:21\n85:23 86:8 87:19 67:19 71:17.25 163:4 165:12 证人 7:98:19\n88:18 89:5,13 73:13 80:16 83:16 200:16 204:14 9:16,24 13:3,8\n90:16 91:2,14 86:20 87:5 93:3 212:21,22 16:12,15 20:11\n92:10 94:16 95:7 95:13 104:4 财富 159:22 21:1,12 23:4 26:7\n97:22 98:4.24 111:10 112:20,20 161:9,13,21 162:1 26:11,15 27:6\n99:13 100:8,12,24 120:7 121:12 162:6 28:25 29:4 32:22\n101:4,12 102:17 123:3 125:7 网站 203:20 33:2,9 35:3,5 36:3\n103:13 104:5,9,14 126:16 131:20 星期 69:25 71:2 37:2,15 38:4,9\n104:21 105:5,15 139:25 143:20 139:20,22 140:16 40:21 42:5, 10, 16\n105:24 106:6,15 146:4 150:18 140:16,24 151:3 43:15 44:21 46:19\n106:24 107:8 155:11 156:25 数周\n73:8 46:22,24 52:5\n108:22 110:25 158:17 163:21 Wengui（文贵）39:9 53:2 53:10 54:25 55:12\n111:13 115:3,6 171:7 174:13 53:5,12 55:12,23 56:23\n118:6119:10,20 186:20 188:17 57:5,17 58:1\n\n[证人 - 约克]\n\n59:19 65:17 66:8 78:20,20 79:21 书面 63:2 188:9 44:16 45:12 48:17\n\n66:14 67:9,15 81:19 86:11.17 189.4 191 - 18 49:1,10 51:5\n73:12 74:4 83:14 89:24 92:17 212:13 61:19 64:22 65:8\n83:20 87:25 88:4 147:19 149:24 错误 56:6 75:12 65:17 80:7 116:19\n88:9 90:4,13 150:11,13 151:21 164:22 116:21,23 117:1,3\n92:15 94:19 95:20 152:25 157:2,17 不当行为 136:3 152:1,3,4,6\n103:24 111:16,24 158:3 164:17 164:25 160:17 161:21,25\n116:4,15 122:11 195:18 202:11 X 163:2 171:11\n122:19 123:5 19:22 21:5\n工作过 昨天 145:13\n124:24 126:24 23:23 24:12,20 4:1,9 107:9,9\nX\n116:62215:1 145:14,16,18,21\n129:9 131:16 25:16,18 26:9 146:5,9 162:8,9,22\n140:7 143:14,23 27:10,14 34:21,25 y 163:6,10\n144:13 147:10 45:9 55:3 138:25 112:24,24 116:6\ny 112:23\nYong（勇）\n148:1 154:6 158:5 152:18 153:10 147:16 York（约克）\n1:19,19 2:7,7\n159:19,21 165:21 工作中 19:12 各位\n44:7 2:17,17,22 4:20\n166:11 167:2,13 24:11,14,23,24 1:17 4:13,23\nYan（严） 5:4,12 7:1,1,10\n170:12 186:11 25:3,5 29:10,23 9:18 56:17 211:4 8:3 10:12 14:23\n188:3 191:23 30:10,1731:1,15 212:8 214:1,5 15:4 17:4 18:9,11\n201:4 204:1 207:3 32:10 33:18 34:3 216:2 18:15,17 23:24\n207:9,16 209:8,20 34:6.12 36:23 11:25 13:2\nVeah（维亚） 24:2,15,18 27:6\n212:8,13,17 37:21 38:1 40:9 23:2 26:5 30:15 28:9 29:10,23\n214:13,16 215:2,5 40:18,22 41:3,17 49:1 54:2 67:14 30:4,4,11,18 31:2\n216:24 42:5,20 44:14 70:4 75:21 76:16 31:14,22,23 32:1,2\n女性的\n101:6,9 45:17,21 69:2,8,9 81:12 86:15 93:22 32:3,11,13,15\n101:13 69:14 71:12,25 101:5,8 102:1 33:13,19 34:1,4,7\n词语 55:159:13 72:8 73:21,24 108:2 109:14,24 34:13,17,25 35:21\n90:3 109:6 120:2 78:23 81:3,10 110:11 111:9 36:2,24 37:21\n120:8 83:22 87:6 113:5 112:3 116:25 38:1,2 40:9,10,11\n词语\n48:6 49:12 150:2 171:19 125:16 128:7,21 40:14,17,18,23,24\n49:16 51:11 58:17 210:1 136:10 141:7 41:2,4,7,16,18\n58:19 60:8 93:3 工作\n76:16 156:15 162:16 42:2,6,21 43:25\n94:14 107:17 世界 17:14 166:21,21 173:20 44:21,25 46:1,6,14\n201:11 212:13 116:12 175:22 194:21 208:14 47:21 49:5,19\n工作 18:24 22:7,7 158:24\n蠕虫 年份 18:12 41:11 51:24 52:14 54:20\n23:11,20,25 24:2,3 161:19\n担忧 47:24 129:14,20 57:8 58:7 59:21\n24:17 27:5,22 207:1 129:21,22 130:3 65:22 68:1 69:8\n28:5 30:6,13,19 152:14\n哇 130:12 134:16,17 69:10,15 71:13,13\n31:17,19 32:2 写作 184:13 每年 107:12 72:1,1,4,8 73:22\n33:12 45:18,22 188:5 189:10 年份 25:14 29:20 81:3,6 90:18\n46:10 58:21,22 190:2 30:3,20 36:5,6,10 91:16,17,19,24\n59:20 60:25 71:4 36:11,14 41:13 92:9,17 93:6 95:4\n\n[约克 - Zoom]\n\n97:2 98:3,23 L\n\n99:11 103:10 116:6\nZ\n104:6,10,13,15,22 21:14\n零\n104:24 109:11,13 7:16 16:22\nZoom\n109:18 110:7,15\n110:17,20,25\n111:11,17 113:2\n113:21 114:12,23\n115:8,12,15 117:6\n117:10 118:3,8,14\n119:5,18 120:12\n121:4,16 122:2,8\n122:14 123:14\n124:11 125:7\n126:22 127:7,18\n128:12 129:14\n130:12 131:4,10\n132:19,21,22,23\n133:16 134:19\n135:2,9 137:10\n140:25 148:12,18\n150:3,6,20 156:1,7\n156:18 157:3\n158:18 160:22\n163:22 164:14\n165:22 166:4,15\n168:10 169:16,25\n174:16 175:14\n176:23 177:7,14\n178:1 180:5 181:5\n184:10,25 185:4\n186:10,15 187:4\n189:1 190:19\n192:3,12 193:18\n194:2 195:5,7\n199:23 201:10\n206:8,13 207:15\n208:8 209:9\n112:23\nYu（余）\nYvette（伊薇特）\n7:9 20:2\n107:8 194:7 209:8\n\n联邦民事诉讼规则\n\n规则30\n\n(e) 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