{"id":"court_ctb_440_26","court":"CTB","case_no":"22-50073","doc_number":440,"sub_number":26,"doc_type":"ORDER","filed_date":"2022-05-25","title":"EXHIBIT PAX 28 Declaration of Laura Aronsson in Further Support of PAX's Motion to Dismiss Chapter 11 Case or, in the Al","summary_zh":null,"summary_en":null,"body_en":"## **EXHIBIT PAX 28**\n\nDeclaration of Laura Aronsson in Further Support of PAX's Motion to Dismiss Chapter 11 Case or, in the Alternative, Partial Joinder to United States Trustee's Motion for an Order Directing the Appointment of a Chapter 11 Trustee\n\n| 22-50073 |                       |                            |  |  |  |\n|----------|-----------------------|----------------------------|--|--|--|\n|          | Ho Wan Kwok<br>IN RE: |                            |  |  |  |\n|          |                       |                            |  |  |  |\n| PAX      |                       | 28                         |  |  |  |\n|          |                       |                            |  |  |  |\n|          |                       | 5/25/2022 Admitted in Full |  |  |  |\n|          |                       | P.E.                       |  |  |  |\n|          |                       |                            |  |  |  |\n|          |                       |                            |  |  |  |\n\n#### **UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION**\n\nIn re:\n\nChapter 11 Case No.\n\nHO WAN KWOK<sup>1</sup>\n\n22-50073 (JAM)\n\nDebtor.\n\nMay 20, 2022\n\n#### **DECLARATION OF LAURA S. ARONSSON IN FURTHER SUPPORT OF PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.'S MOTION TO DISMISS CHAPTER 11 CASE OR, IN THE ALTERNATIVE, PARTIAL JOINDER TO UNITED STATES TRUSTEE'S MOTION FOR AN ORDER DIRECTING THE APPOINTMENT OF A CHAPTER 11 TRUSTEE**\n\nI, Laura S. Aronsson, declare:\n\n1. I am an attorney admitted to practice law in the States of New York and California and am Counsel at the law firm of O'Melveny & Myers, 7 Times Square, New York, NY 10036, counsel for Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. (\"PAX\"). I respectfully submit this Declaration in support of PAX's Motion to Dismiss Chapter 11 Case, or in the\n\nAlternative, Partial Joinder to United States Trustee (\"Motion to Dismiss\") [ECF 183].\n\n2. In connection with these proceedings, PAX served discovery requests on several parties, including Golden Spring (New York) Limited (\"Golden Spring\") and Lamp Capital LLC (\"Lamp Capital\"). As relevant here, PAX sought documents and communications relating to the Debtor's Motion for Entry of Interim and Final DIP Orders (I) Authorizing the Debtor to Obtain Unsecured, Subordinated Postpetition Financing and (II) Scheduling Interim and Final Hearings, and (III) Granting Related Relief (the \"DIP Motion\") [ECF No. 117] and other litigation loans on\n\n<sup>1</sup> The last four digits of the Debtor's taxpayer identification number are 9595.\n\nbehalf of Kwok.<sup>2</sup>\n\n3. On March 29, 2022, PAX served document requests on Golden Spring seeking, among other things, \"[a]ll Documents and Communications relating to Golden Spring's funding of any litigation in which the Debtor is a party.\" 3\n\n4. Also on March 29, 2022, PAX served document requests on Lamp Capital seeking, among other things, \"[a]ll Documents and Communications relating to any actual or contemplated transactions, transfers, distributions, or conveyances (including without limitation payments, loans, benefits, gifts, compensation, and income) made by Lamp Capital to, at the direction of, or for the benefit of the Debtor.\"<sup>4</sup>\n\n5. In response to PAX's requests, Golden Spring made productions on April 8, 2022 and April 11, 2022, totaling approximately 25 documents. Counsel for PAX reviewed all documents Golden Spring produced, and Golden Spring did not produce any loan agreements between Golden Spring and the Debtor.\n\n6. Lamp made productions on April 8, 2022 and May 9, 2022, totaling five pages. Counsel for PAX reviewed all documents Lamp Capital produced, and Lamp Capital did not produce any loan agreements between Lamp Capital and the Debtor.\n\n7. On April 12, 2022, PAX deposed Golden Spring's Rule 30(b)(6) designee, Yanping Wang, in connection with the DIP Motion. At her deposition, Ms. Wang testified that she signed the debtor-in-possession financing loan agreement on behalf of Golden Spring and\n\n<sup>2</sup> *See* Debtor's Schedule F, ECF 78 (\\$1,000,000 \"litigation loan\" from Lamp Capital LLC); *id.*  (listing \\$21 million \"litigation funding\" from Golden Spring).\n\n<sup>3</sup> *See* Request 1h, PAX's First Request for Production of Documents Directed to Golden Spring (New York) Limited dated March 29, 2022, attached hereto as Exhibit A.\n\n<sup>4</sup> *See* Request 1d, PAX's First Request for Production of Documents Directed to Lamp Capital LLC dated March 29, 2022, attached hereto as Exhibit B.\n\nhad it in her possession. 5 She also testified that she possessed documents and notes concerning litigation loans from Golden Spring to Kwok that totaled approximately \\$21 million.<sup>6</sup>\n\n8. During Ms. Wang's deposition, PAX requested that Golden Spring promptly produce the documents Ms. Wang referenced, 7 but PAX never received them.\n\nDated: May 20, 2022 New York, NY\n\nRespectfully submitted,\n\n*/s/ Laura S. Aronsson*  Laura S. Aronsson laronsson@omm.com O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP 7 Times Square New York, NY 10036 Telephone: (212) 728-5841\n\n*Attorney for Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.*\n\n<sup>5</sup> April 12, 2022 Dep. Tr. of Golden Spring Rule 30(b)(6) Corporate Representative Yanping Wang (\"Wang Dep. Tr.\"), attached hereto as Exhibit C, at 185:8-17; 207:14-23.\n\n<sup>6</sup> Wang Dep. Tr. 185:8-17; 207:14-23.\n\n<sup>7</sup> Wang Dep. Tr. 185:8-17; 207:14-23.\n\n## **Exhibit A**\n\n#### **UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION**\n\n: : : : :\n\n------------------------------------------------------------ x\n\nIn re:\n\nHo Wan Kwok,\n\nChapter 11\n\nCase No. 22-50073 (JAM)\n\nDebtor.\n\n: ------------------------------------------------------------ x\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.'S FIRST REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS DIRECTED TO GOLDEN SPRING (NEW YORK) LIMITED**\n\nIn response to the relief sought in the Debtor's *Motion for Entry of Interim and Final DIP Orders (I) Authorizing the Debtor to Obtain Unsecured, Subordinated Postpetition Financing and (II) Scheduling Interim and Final Hearings, and (III) Granting Related Relief* [ECF 117] (the \"Debtor's DIP Motion\"), Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. (\"PAX\") hereby requests the production of documents (the \"Document Request\") by Friday, April 1, 2022, and that the request be answered or responded to in writing by Golden Spring (New York) Limited (\"Golden Spring\") by Thursday, March 31, 2022.\n\n#### **DEFINITIONS**\n\n- a. \"Bankruptcy Code\" means Title 11 of the United States Code.\n- b. \"Communication\" means the transmittal of information (in the form of facts, ideas, inquiries, or otherwise) and/or any other communicative contact between two or more Persons and/or entities, and shall include, without limitation: written contacts by such means as any Document as defined herein, and oral contact by such means as face-to-face or in-person meetings, telephone conversation, e-mail, and any other form of electronic communication such as telecopy transmissions, telexes, telegrams, and video\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 7 of 280\n\ntransmissions, and the originals, drafts, copies, and all non-identical copies of all Documents.\n\n- c. \"Debtor\" refers to Miles Kwok a/k/a Kwok Ho Wan, a/k/a Kwok Ho, a/k/a Gwo Wen Gui, a/k/a Guo Wengui, a/k/a Guo Wen-Gui, a/k/a Wan Gue Haoyun, a/k/a Haoyun Guo.\n- d. The \"Debtor's DIP Motion\" refers to the Debtor's Motion for Entry of Interim and Final DIP Orders (I) Authorizing the Debtor to Obtain Unsecured, Subordinated Postpetition Financing and (II) Scheduling Interim and Final Hearings, and (III) Granting Related Relief filed by the Debtor on March 22, 2022 [ECF 117].\n- e. The \"Debtors' Proposed DIP Facility\" refers to the debtor in possession financing proposed in the Debtors' Motion for Entry of Interim and Final DIP Orders (I) Authorizing the Debtor to Obtain Unsecured, Subordinated Postpetition Financing and (II) Scheduling Interim and Final Hearings, and (III) Granting Related Relief [ECF 117].\n- f. The \"Debtor's Schedules\" refers to Debtor's bankruptcy Schedules AB, C, D, EF, G, H, I, and J, filed by the Debtor on March 9, 2022 [ECF 78].\n- g. The \"Debtor's Voluntary Bankruptcy Petition\" refers to the Chapter 11 Voluntary Petition filed by the Debtor on February 15, 2022 [ECF 1].\n- h. The \"DIP Loan Agreement\" refers to the Debtor-in-Possession Credit Agreement between Debtor and Golden Spring, filed as Exhibit C to Debtor's Motion for Entry of Interim and Final DIP Orders (I) Authorizing the Debtor to Obtain Unsecured, Subordinated Postpetition Financing and (II) Scheduling Interim and Final Hearings, and (III) Granting Related Relief [ECF 117].\n- i. \"Director,\" \"officers,\" \"member,\" \"partner,\" \"limited partner\" or \"agent\" means any individual or entity serving as such presently or who served in such capacity at any relevant time, even though no longer serving in such capacity.\n- j. \"Document\" as used herein shall mean the original and all drafts and all copies, including copies with notations or marks not found on the original, of any writing or printed, graphic or electronic materials of any nature whatsoever, including, but not limited to, records, reports, memoranda, notes, calendar or diary entries, letters, envelopes, telegrams, telexes, e-mails, electronic mail messages, computer files, computerized records, telephone bills, checks, other written communications, messages (including, but not limited to, reports of telephone conversations and conferences), studies, summaries, tabulations, analyses, printed matter, minutes, photographs, tapes, tape recordings, correspondence, computer stored information, financial statements, worksheets, other communications, contracts, agreements, promissory notes, loan agreements, security agreements, guaranties, pledges, deeds of trust, mortgages, security interests filings, loan documents, other official documents and legal instruments, journals, manuals, technical releases, employment applications, agreements, orders, statements, checks, bank account statements, loan account statements, bills, invoices, receipts, vouchers, notebooks, data sheets and records kept or maintained by any means including electronically or by computer. In all cases where originals and/or non-identical copies are not available, the term \"Document\" also means identical copies of original documents and copies of non-identical copies.\n- k. \"Document Request\" refers to this First Request for Production of Documents directed to Golden Spring New York Limited.\n- l. \"Golden Spring\" or \"You\" refers to Golden Spring (New York) Limited.\n\nm. \"Identify\" means\n\ni. as to a person (as defined): name, business and residence address(es), occupation, job title, and dates so employed; and, if not an individual, state the type of entity and the address of its principal place of business.\n\nii. as to a document: the type of document (letter, memo. etc.), the identity of the author or originator, the date authored or originated, the identity of each person to whom the original or copy was addressed or delivered, the identity of such person known or reasonably believed by you to have present possession, custody, or control thereof, and a brief description of the subject matter thereof, all with sufficient particularity to request its production under Rule 34 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.\n\niii. as to a communication: the date of the communication, the type of communication (telephone conversation, meeting, etc.), the place where the communication took place, the identity of the person who made the communication, the identity of each person who received the communication, and of each person present when it was made, and the subject matter discussed.\n\niv. as to a meeting: the date of the meeting, the place of the meeting, each person invited to attend, each person who attended, and the subject matter discussed.\n\n- n. \"Including\" means including, but not limited to.\n- o. \"Or\" means \"and/or\" and is used in the inclusive sense.\n- p. \"Person\" includes natural persons, as well as corporations, proprietorships, limited liability companies, partnerships, joint ventures, associations, combinations, unions, governmental bodies and agencies, and any and all other entities.\n- q. The \"Petition Date\" means February 15, 2022.\n- r. \"Referring to\" as used herein shall mean commenting on, responding to, mentioning, containing, constituting, showing, memorializing, describing, analyzing, reflecting, pertaining to, identifying, or discussing.\n- s. \"Relating to\" as used herein shall mean concerning, being connected to, commenting on, responding to, containing, constituting, showing, memorializing, describing, analyzing,\n\nreflecting, pertaining to, compromising, identifying, discussing or otherwise establishing reasonable, logical or causal connection to.\n\n#### **INSTRUCTIONS**\n\n- t. This Document Request is propounded in response to the Debtor's Motion for Entry of Interim and Final DIP Orders (I) Authorizing the Debtor to Obtain Unsecured, Subordinated Postpetition Financing and (II) Scheduling Interim and Final Hearings, and (III) Granting Related Relief [ECF 117].\n- a. Each response to each separately numbered Document Request is to be set forth separately. Document Requests should not be combined for the purpose of supplying a common response, but responses may be supplied by reference to the response to another Document Request.\n- b. This Document Request is continuing in character so as to require Golden Spring to make supplementary production of Documents if they obtain further or different information or Documents.\n- c. Where a Document Request cannot be answered to in full, state why and furnish all available information. If any Document responsive to a request has been lost, discarded, destroyed or is otherwise unavailable identify the Document as completely as possible, including if the Document has been lost, the last known location of the Document and the Person who had last possession, custody, access or control over the Document, or, if the Document has been discarded or destroyed, the date of such action, the Person authorizing such action, the Person actually destroying or disposing of the Document and the reason for the destruction or disposal of the Document.\n- d. Production of Documents pursuant to the Document Request must include all Documents available to Golden Spring and Golden Spring's members, agents, attorneys, investment bankers, consultants, accountants, insurers or others who have Documents available to it upon inquiry of them.\n- e. If Golden Spring does not have any Documents in its possession, custody, access or control that are responsive to a particular Document Request, Golden Spring's response to that Document Request should indicate unambiguously that they do not have any Documents responsive to the Document Request, or that there are not any Documents responsive to that Document Request.\n- f. Where knowledge, information, or Documents in the possession of a party or entity is requested, such Document Request includes any knowledge, information, or Documents of Golden Spring's members, agents, representatives, accountants, advisors, investment bankers, employees, and, unless privileged, its attorneys.\n- g. Where the name or identity of a Person is requested, state the Person's full name, home address, business address, home telephone number and business telephone number and include the Person's title or occupation and each of the positions held by such Person during the applicable time covered by any answer referring to such Persons.\n- h. Where the identity of a Document is requested, state the date of the Document, its author and addressee, the present location and custodian of said Document and give a description of the general contents of the Document.\n- i. Where the identity of a Communication is requested, identify the Person generating the Communication, the recipient of the Communication, the date and location of the\n\nCommunication, and give a description of the general contents of the Communication. Also, identify all Persons present when the Communication was made.\n\n- j. The plural of any word shall include the singular form of that word and vice versa.\n- k. The masculine form of a word shall include the feminine form of that word and vice versa.\n- l. The use of the past tense includes the present tense and the use of the present tense includes the past tenses so as to make each request inclusive rather than exclusive.\n- m. If a privilege is claimed with respect to any Document Request, state the nature of the privilege claimed, basis for the claim, and for Documents, a summary of the Documents' contents, their location and custodian and the identity of Persons having access or having had access to such Documents.\n- n. If You do not produce any Document because of a claim of privilege, set forth the privilege claimed, the facts upon which You rely to support the claim of privilege, and identify all documents for which such privilege is claimed.\n- o. Unless otherwise agreed by both PAX and Golden Spring, the production of documents shall be made at the offices of O'Melveny & Myers LLP, Times Square Tower, 7 Times Square, New York, New York 10036, on Friday, April 1, 2022.\n- p. Unless otherwise specified, this Document Request seeks all Documents from February 10, 2022 to the date of this Document Request.\n\n#### **REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS**\n\n1. PAX demands that Golden Spring produce at the date and location stated above, or at a time and location mutually agreeable to the parties, all (whether in hard copy or digital) books, records, communications, (including, but not limited to, e-mail, text message, electronic messaging, mail, fax and the like), and papers as follows:\n\na. All Documents and Communications relating to the DIP Loan Agreement.\n\nb. All Documents relied upon by Golden Spring when negotiating and executing the DIP Loan Agreement.\n\nc. All Documents and Communications with the Debtor or any of the Debtor's agents relating to the Debtor's Voluntary Bankruptcy Petition.\n\nd. All Documents and Communications relating to any actual or contemplated transactions, transfers, distributions, or conveyances (including without limitation payments, loans, benefits, gifts, compensation, and income) made by Golden Spring to, at the direction of, or for the benefit of the Debtor.\n\ne. All Documents and Communications relating to any security interest pledged by the Debtor to Golden Spring.\n\nf. All Documents and Communications relating to the anticipated sources of repayment of the DIP Loan Agreement.\n\ng. All Documents and Communications relating to the anticipated use of the proceeds of the DIP Loan Agreement.\n\nh. All Documents and Communications relating to Golden Spring's funding of any litigation in which the Debtor is a party.\n\ni. Documents sufficient to identify ownership of Golden Spring.\n\nj. Documents sufficient to identify all employees, officers and directors of Golden Spring.\n\nk. Documents sufficient to identify the source of any funds being used to fund the DIP\n\nLoan Agreement.\n\nDated: March 29, 2022 New York, New York\n\n> */s/ Peter Friedman* O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP Peter Friedman (pfriedman@omm.com) Stuart Sarnoff (ssarnoff@omm.com) Times Square Tower 7 Times Square New York, New York 10036 Telephone: (212) 326-2000\n\n*Attorneys for Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.*\n\n## **Exhibit B**\n\n#### **UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION**\n\n------------------------------------------------------------ x In re: : : :\n\nHo Wan Kwok,\n\nChapter 11\n\nCase No. 22-50073 (JAM)\n\nDebtor.\n\n: ------------------------------------------------------------ x\n\n#### **PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.'S FIRST REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS DIRECTED TO LAMP CAPITAL LLC**\n\nIn connection with Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.'s *Motion to Dismiss*\n\n: :\n\n*Chapter 11 Case or, in the Alternative, Partial Joinder to United States Trustee's Motion for an*\n\n*Order Directing the Appointment of a Chapter 11 Trustee* [ECF 183] (the \"Motion to Dismiss\"),\n\nPacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. (\"PAX\") hereby requests the production of\n\ndocuments (the \"Document Request\"), and that the request be answered or responded to in\n\nwriting by Lamp Capital LLC (\"Lamp Capital\"), by Monday, May 2, 2022.\n\n#### **DEFINITIONS**\n\n- a. \"Bankruptcy Code\" means Title 11 of the United States Code.\n- b. The \"Chapter 11 Proceedings\" means *In re Ho Wan Kwok,* Case No. 22-50073 (Bankr. D. Conn.)\n- c. \"Communication\" means the transmittal of information (in the form of facts, ideas, inquiries, or otherwise) and/or any other communicative contact between two or more Persons and/or entities, and shall include, without limitation: written contacts by such means as any Document as defined herein, and oral contact by such means as face-to-face or in-person meetings, telephone conversation, e-mail, and any other form of electronic\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 17 of 280\n\ncommunication such as telecopy transmissions, telexes, telegrams, and video transmissions, and the originals, drafts, copies, and all non-identical copies of all Documents.\n\n- d. \"Debtor\" refers to Miles Kwok a/k/a Kwok Ho Wan, a/k/a Kwok Ho, a/k/a Gwo Wen Gui, a/k/a Guo Wengui, a/k/a Guo Wen-Gui, a/k/a Wan Gue Haoyun, a/k/a Haoyun Guo.\n- e. \"Director,\" \"officers,\" \"member,\" \"partner,\" \"limited partner\" or \"agent\" means any individual or entity serving as such presently or who served in such capacity at any relevant time, even though no longer serving in such capacity.\n- f. \"Document\" as used herein shall mean the original and all drafts and all copies, including copies with notations or marks not found on the original, of any writing or printed, graphic or electronic materials of any nature whatsoever, including, but not limited to, records, reports, memoranda, notes, calendar or diary entries, letters, envelopes, telegrams, telexes, e-mails, electronic mail messages, computer files, computerized records, telephone bills, checks, other written communications, messages (including, but not limited to, reports of telephone conversations and conferences), studies, summaries, tabulations, analyses, printed matter, minutes, photographs, tapes, tape recordings, correspondence, computer stored information, financial statements, worksheets, other communications, contracts, agreements, promissory notes, loan agreements, security agreements, guaranties, pledges, deeds of trust, mortgages, security interests filings, loan documents, other official documents and legal instruments, journals, manuals, technical releases, employment applications, agreements, orders, statements, checks, bank account statements, loan account statements, bills, invoices, receipts, vouchers, notebooks, data sheets and records kept or maintained by any means including electronically or by\n\ncomputer. In all cases where originals and/or non-identical copies are not available, the term \"Document\" also means identical copies of original documents and copies of nonidentical copies.\n\n- g. \"Document Request\" refers to this First Request for Production of Documents directed to Lamp Capital.\n- h. \"Identify\" means\n\t- i. as to a person (as defined): name, business and residence address(es), occupation, job title, and dates so employed; and, if not an individual, state the type of entity and the address of its principal place of business.\n\t- ii. as to a document: the type of document (letter, memo. etc.), the identity of the author or originator, the date authored or originated, the identity of each person to whom the original or copy was addressed or delivered, the identity of such person known or reasonably believed by you to have present possession, custody, or control thereof, and a brief description of the subject matter thereof, all with sufficient particularity to request its production under Rule 34 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.\n\t- iii. as to a communication: the date of the communication, the type of communication (telephone conversation, meeting, etc.), the place where the communication took place, the identity of the person who made the communication, the identity of each person who received the communication, and of each person present when it was made, and the subject matter discussed.\n\t- iv. as to a meeting: the date of the meeting, the place of the meeting, each person invited to attend, each person who attended, and the subject matter discussed.\n- i. \"Including\" means including, but not limited to.\n- j. \"Lamp Capital\", \"You\", and \"Your\" means Lamp Capital LLC and each of its members,\n\ndirectors, officers, employees, agents, representatives and advisors.\n\n- k. \"Or\" means \"and/or\" and is used in the inclusive sense.\n- l. \"Person\" includes natural persons, as well as corporations, proprietorships, limited liability companies, partnerships, joint ventures, associations, combinations, unions, governmental bodies and agencies, and any and all other entities.\n- m. \"Proposed Plan of Reorganization\" refers to *The Proposed Chapter 11 Plan of Ho Wan Kwok* [ECF 197].\n- n. \"Relating to\" as used herein shall mean concerning, being connected to, commenting on, responding to, containing, constituting, showing, memorializing, describing, analyzing, reflecting, pertaining to, compromising, identifying, discussing or otherwise establishing reasonable, logical or causal connection to.\n- o. The \"Sherry Netherland\" refers to Unit 1801 of the Sherry-Netherland Hotel, located at 781 5th Avenue, New York, New York, 10022, including the corresponding ownership interest in shares of The Sherry-Netherland and the assignment of the proprietary lease agreement for Unit 1801.\n\n#### **INSTRUCTIONS**\n\n- a. This Document Request is propounded in furtherance of Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.'s *Motion to Dismiss Chapter 11 Case or, in the Alternative, Partial Joinder to United States Trustee's Motion for an Order Directing the Appointment of a Chapter 11 Trustee* [ECF 183].\n- b. Each response to each separately numbered Document Request is to be set forth separately. Document Requests should not be combined for the purpose of supplying a common response, but responses may be supplied by reference to the response to another Document Request.\n- c. This Document Request is continuing in character so as to require Lamp Capital to make supplementary production of Documents if they obtain further or different information or Documents.\n- d. Where a Document Request cannot be answered to in full, state why and furnish all available information. If any Document responsive to a request has been lost, discarded, destroyed or is otherwise unavailable identify the Document as completely as possible, including if the Document has been lost, the last known location of the Document and the Person who had last possession, custody, access or control over the Document, or, if the Document has been discarded or destroyed, the date of such action, the Person authorizing such action, the Person actually destroying or disposing of the Document and the reason for the destruction or disposal of the Document.\n- e. Production of Documents pursuant to the Document Request must include all Documents available to Lamp Capital and Lamp Capital's members, agents, attorneys, investment bankers, consultants, accountants, insurers or others who have Documents available to it upon inquiry of them.\n- f. If Lamp Capital does not have any Documents in its possession, custody, access or control that are responsive to a particular Document Request, Lamp Capital's response to that Document Request should indicate unambiguously that they do not have any Documents responsive to the Document Request, or that there are not any Documents responsive to that Document Request.\n- g. Where knowledge, information, or Documents in the possession of a party or entity is requested, such Document Request includes any knowledge, information, or Documents of Lamp Capital's members, agents, representatives, accountants, advisors, investment bankers, employees, and, unless privileged, its attorneys.\n- h. Where the name or identity of a Person is requested, state the Person's full name, home address, business address, home telephone number and business telephone number and\n\ninclude the Person's title or occupation and each of the positions held by such Person during the applicable time covered by any answer referring to such Persons.\n\n- i. Where the identity of a Document is requested, state the date of the Document, its author and addressee, the present location and custodian of said Document and give a description of the general contents of the Document.\n- j. Where the identity of a Communication is requested, identify the Person generating the Communication, the recipient of the Communication, the date and location of the Communication, and give a description of the general contents of the Communication. Also, identify all Persons present when the Communication was made.\n- k. The plural of any word shall include the singular form of that word and vice versa.\n- l. The masculine form of a word shall include the feminine form of that word and vice versa.\n- m. The use of the past tense includes the present tense and the use of the present tense includes the past tenses so as to make each request inclusive rather than exclusive.\n- n. If a privilege is claimed with respect to any Document Request, state the nature of the privilege claimed, basis for the claim, and for Documents, a summary of the Documents' contents, their location and custodian and the identity of Persons having access or having had access to such Documents.\n- o. If You do not produce any Document because of a claim of privilege, set forth the privilege claimed, the facts upon which You rely to support the claim of privilege, and identify all documents for which such privilege is claimed.\n\n- p. Unless otherwise agreed by both PAX and Lamp Capital, the production of documents shall be made at the offices of O'Melveny & Myers LLP, Times Square Tower, 7 Times Square, New York, New York 10036, on May 2, 2022 at 12:00pm.\n- q. Unless otherwise specified, this Document Request seeks all Documents from January 1, 2014 to the date of this Document Request.\n\n#### **REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS**\n\n1. PAX demands that Lamp Capital produce at the date and location stated above, or at a time and location mutually agreeable to the parties, all (whether in hard copy or digital) books, records, communications, (including, but not limited to, e-mail, text message, electronic messaging, mail, fax and the like), and papers as follows:\n\na. Documents sufficient to identify ownership of Lamp Capital.\n\nb. All Documents and Communications relating to the initial funding of Lamp Capital.\n\nc. All Documents and Communications relating to any payments made in connection with the Sherry Netherland from January 1, 2015 until the present.\n\nd. All Documents and Communications relating to any actual or contemplated transactions, transfers, distributions, or conveyances (including without limitation payments, loans, benefits, gifts, compensation, and income) made by Lamp Capital to, at the direction of, or for the benefit of the Debtor.\n\ne. All Communications between Lamp Capital and the Debtor relating to the Proposed Plan of Reorganization.\n\nDated: April 27, 2022 New York, New York\n\n> */s/ Peter Friedman* O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP Peter Friedman (pfriedman@omm.com) Stuart Sarnoff (ssarnoff@omm.com) Times Square Tower 7 Times Square New York, New York 10036 Telephone: (212) 326-2000\n\n*Attorneys for Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.*\n\n# **Exhibit C**\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 26 of\n\n| 1  | UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT                 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT                        |\n| 3  | BRIDGEPORT DIVISION                            |\n| 4  | ______________                                 |\n| 5  |                                                |\n| 6  |                                                |\n| 7  |                                                |\n|    | In re:<br>)Case No.                            |\n| 8  | )22-50073-(JAM)                                |\n|    | Ho Wan Kwok,<br>)                              |\n| 9  | )                                              |\n|    | Debtor.<br>)                                   |\n| 10 | )                                              |\n| 11 |                                                |\n| 12 |                                                |\n| 13 |                                                |\n| 14 | REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION                   |\n| 15 | OF                                             |\n| 16 | (30(b)(6) CORPORATE REPRESENTATIVE             |\n| 17 | YAN PING WANG                                  |\n| 18 | Tuesday, April 12, 2022                        |\n| 19 | New York, New York                             |\n| 20 |                                                |\n| 21 |                                                |\n| 22 |                                                |\n| 23 |                                                |\n| 24 |                                                |\n| 25 | Reported by:<br>B. Suzanne Hull, CSR No. 13495 |\n|    | Page 1                                         |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 27 of\n\n280\n\n1 APPEARANCES\n\n2 3 4\n\n25\n\n For the Debtor Brown Rudnick 5 Ho Wan Kwok: By MR. BENNETT S. SILVERBERG MR. KENNETH AULET 6 Attorneys at Law Times Square Tower\n\n7 7 Times Square New York, New York 10036 8 (212) 209-4924 (212) 209-4950 9 bsilverberg@brownrudnick.com kaulet@brownrudnick.com 10 11 For Creditor Pacific O'Melveny & Myers Alliance Asia By MR. DAVID V. HARBACH II 12 Opportunity Fund, Attorney at Law L.P.: 1625 Eye Street NW 13 Washington, DC 20006 (202) 383-5127 14 dharbach@omm.com - and - 15 By MR. STUART M. SARNOFF MS. AISLING MURRAY 16 Attorneys at Law Times Square Tower 17 7 Times Square New York, New York 10036 18 (212) 326-2293 (212) 728-5831 19 ssarnoff@omm.com\n\n20 21 For Creditor Cohn Birnbaum Shea Golden Spring By MR. SCOTT D. ROSEN 22 (New York) Limited: Attorney at Law 100 Pearl Street 23 Hartford, Connecticut 06103 (860) 493-2220 24 srosen@cbshealaw.com\n\namurray@omm.com\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 28 of\n\n280\n\n4 For United States United States Department of\n\n5 By MS. HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN\n\nAttorney at Law\n\n1 APPEARANCES (Continued)\n\nTrustee: Justice\n\n2 3\n\n9\n\n14 15\n\n19\n\n6 1100 L Street NW Room 12210 7 Washington, DC 20005 (202) 514-2000 8 holley.l.claiborn@usdoj.gov 10 For the Committee on Pullman & Comley Secured Creditors: By MR. JONATHAN KAPLAN 11 Attorney at Law 90 State House Square\n\n12 Hartford, Connecticut 06103 (860) 424-4379 13 jkaplan@pullcom.com\n\n16 The Videographer: Jeffrey Nichols 17 The Interpreter: Sunny Johnston (Mandarin) 18 The Check Una Wilkinson (Mandarin) Interpreter:\n\nAlso Present: Makenzie Russo\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 29 of 280\n\n| 1  |                | I N D E X                      |      |\n|----|----------------|--------------------------------|------|\n| 2  |                |                                |      |\n| 3  | EXAMINATION BY |                                | PAGE |\n| 4  |                |                                |      |\n| 5  | MR. HARBACH    |                                | 10   |\n| 6  |                |                                |      |\n| 7  |                |                                |      |\n| 8  |                |                                |      |\n| 9  |                | E X H I B I T S                |      |\n| 10 |                |                                |      |\n| 11 | EXHIBIT        | DESCRIPTION                    | PAGE |\n| 12 | Exhibit 1 -    | Transcript of testimony of     | 19   |\n| 13 |                | Yan Ping Wang, taken           |      |\n| 14 |                | October 11, 2018, forty-two    |      |\n| 15 |                | pages                          |      |\n| 16 | Exhibit 2 -    | Trial transcript, dated        | 28   |\n| 17 |                | April 26, 2019, one hundred    |      |\n| 18 |                | twenty-five pages              |      |\n| 19 | Exhibit 3 -    | Director and officer register, | 43   |\n| 20 |                | Golden Spring (New York)       |      |\n| 21 |                | Limited, Delaware Corporation, |      |\n| 22 |                | three pages                    |      |\n| 23 | Exhibit 4 -    | Affidavit of Yan Ping Wang,    | 55   |\n| 24 |                | dated November 14, 2013, three |      |\n| 25 |                | pages                          |      |\n|    |                | Page 4                         |      |\n|    |                |                                |      |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 30 of\n\n280\n\n1 EXHIBITS (Continued)\n\n| 2 | EXHIBIT     | DESCRIPTION              | PAGE |\n|---|-------------|--------------------------|------|\n| 3 | Exhibit 5 - | Exhibit B, Golden Spring | 166  |\n| 4 |             | (New York)'s Delaware    |      |\n\n| 5 |  | certificate of incorporation |\n|---|--|------------------------------|\n|   |  |                              |\n\n6 and certificate of revival,\n\n| 7  |             | dated March 10, 2015, five     |        |     |\n|----|-------------|--------------------------------|--------|-----|\n| 8  |             | pages                          |        |     |\n| 9  | Exhibit 6 - | Pacific Alliance Asia          |        | 209 |\n| 10 |             | Opportunity Fund L.P.'s notice |        |     |\n| 11 |             | of deposition of Golden Spring |        |     |\n| 12 |             | (New York) Limited pursuant to |        |     |\n| 13 |             | Rule 30(b)(6) of the Federal   |        |     |\n| 14 |             | Rules of Civil Procedure,      |        |     |\n| 15 |             | dated March 29, 2022, seven    |        |     |\n| 16 |             | pages                          |        |     |\n| 17 |             |                                |        |     |\n| 18 |             |                                |        |     |\n| 19 |             |                                |        |     |\n| 20 |             |                  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22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 32 of\n\n| 1  | New York, New York                                      |          |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Tuesday, April 12, 2022; 9:15 a.m.                      |          |\n| 3  | 162 East 64th Street                                    |          |\n| 4  |                                                         |          |\n| 5  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>Good morning.                      |          |\n| 6  | We are going on the record at 9:15 a.m. on              | 09:15:21 |\n| 7  | April 12th, 2022.                                       | 09:15:25 |\n| 8  | This is media unit one of the video-recorded            | 09:15:27 |\n| 9  | deposition of Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for     | 09:15:31 |\n| 10 | Golden Spring (New York), taken by                      | 09:15:37 |\n| 11 | Creditor Pacific Alliance In Re: Ho Wan Kwok, filed     | 09:15:39 |\n| 12 | in the United States Bankruptcy Court, District of      | 09:15:42 |\n| 13 | Connecticut, Bridgeport Division.<br>The case number is | 09:15:47 |\n| 14 | 22-50073 (JAM).                                         | 09:15:49 |\n| 15 | This deposition is being held virtually via             | 09:15:50 |\n| 16 | Zoom.                                                   | 09:15:57 |\n| 17 | My name is Jeff Nichols, from the firm                  | 09:15:57 |\n| 18 | Veritext Legal Solutions, and I am the videographer.    | 09:15:59 |\n| 19 | The court reporter is Suzanne Hull, from the firm       | 09:16:02 |\n| 20 | Veritext Legal Solutions.                               | 09:16:06 |\n| 21 | Counsel will now please state their                     | 09:16:07 |\n| 22 | appearances and affiliations for the record.            | 09:16:10 |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Good morning.                           | 09:16:14 |\n| 24 | I'm David Harbach, with O'Melveny & Myers,              | 09:16:15 |\n| 25 | and I represent Pacific Alliance.                       | 09:16:19 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 7   |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 33 of\n\n| 1  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Good morning.                          | 09:16:24 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Scott Rosen, Cohn Birnbaum & Shea,                   | 09:16:24 |\n| 3  | representing Golden Spring (New York).               | 09:16:28 |\n| 4  | MR. KAPLAN:<br>Jonathan Kaplan,                      | 09:16:36 |\n| 5  | Pullman & Comley, representing the Committee of      | 09:16:36 |\n| 6  | Unsecured Creditors.                                 | 09:16:40 |\n| 7  | MR. AULET:<br>Kenneth Aulet, of Brown Rudnick,       | 09:16:40 |\n| 8  | representing the debtor, Ho Wan Kwok.                | 09:16:43 |\n| 9  | MR. SILVERBERG:<br>Bennett Silverberg,               | 09:16:46 |\n| 10 | Brown Rudnick, representing the debtor.              | 09:16:49 |\n| 11 | MS. RUSSO:<br>Makenzie Russo, with                   | 09:16:52 |\n| 12 | O'Melveny & Myers, representing Pacific Alliance.    | 09:16:56 |\n| 13 | MR. SARNOFF:<br>Stuart Sarnoff,                      | 09:16:57 |\n| 14 | Pacific Alliance.                                    | 09:17:02 |\n| 15 | MS. CLAIBORN:<br>And I am Holley Claiborn, for       | 09:17:02 |\n| 16 | the U.S. Trustee.                                    | 09:17:04 |\n| 17 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>Thank you.                      | 09:17:05 |\n| 18 | Will the court reporter please swear in both         | 09:17:06 |\n| 19 | interpreters and then the witness.                   | 09:17:09 |\n| 20 | THE REPORTER:<br>Raise your right hand,              | 09:17:14 |\n| 21 | please.                                              | 09:17:15 |\n| 22 |                                                      |          |\n| 23 | SUNNY JOHNSTON,                                      |          |\n| 24 | having been called as an interpreter to interpret    |          |\n| 25 | English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was |          |\n|    |                                                      | Page 8   |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 34 of\n\n280\n\n3 09:17:20\n\n4 THE INTERPRETER: Yes, I do. 09:17:20\n\n5 THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand, 09:17:25\n\n6 please, Check Interpreter. 09:17:27\n\n1 duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best\n\n9 having been called as an interpreter to interpret\n\n10 English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was\n\n11 duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best\n\n12 of her abilities and interpreted as follows:\n\n2 of her abilities and interpreted as follows:\n\n8 UNA WILKINSON,\n\n7\n\n17\n\n14 THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes, I do. 09:17:42\n\n15 THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand please, 16 Witness. 18 YAN PING WANG, 19 called as a 30(b)(6) Corporate Representative by 20 counsel for Creditor Pacific Alliance Asia 21 Opportunity Fund, L.P., being first duly sworn, 22 testified as follows: 23 09:17:59 24 THE WITNESS: Yes. 09:17:59 25 THE REPORTER: Okay. State credentials, 09:18:02\n\n13 09:17:42\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 35 of\n\n280\n\n1 please. 09:18:06\n\n2 THE INTERPRETER: Yes. 09:18:08\n\n3 Good morning, everyone. 09:18:09 4 Court certified Mandarin interpreter, 09:18:10 5 California State Certified Interpreter 09:18:13 6 Sunny Johnston. Certification number is 301314. 09:18:14 7 THE REPORTER: Check Interpreter, 09:18:18 8 credentials, please. 09:18:22 9 THE CHECK INTERPRETER: I am the check 09:18:25 10 interpreter for Mandarin and English, and 09:18:26 11 a court-certified interpreter for the Unified Court 09:18:29 12 System in New York state. 09:18:33 13 THE REPORTER: Thank you. 09:18:36\n\n| 14 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>Thank you. | 09:18:37 |\n|----|---------------------------------|----------|\n| 15 | You may proceed, Counsel.       | 09:18:37 |\n| 16 |                                 | 09:18:37 |\n| 17 | EXAMINATION                     | 09:18:40 |\n| 18 | BY MR. HARBACH:                 | 09:18:40 |\n\n19 Q. Good morning, Ms. Wang. 09:18:41 20 My name is David Harbach, as you just heard. 09:18:44 21 And a couple housekeeping matters before we 09:18:50 22 get started. 09:18:53 23 Are you able to hear -- are you able to hear 09:18:54 24 me okay? 09:18:55\n\n25 A. Yes. 09:19:09\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 36 of\n\n280\n\n| 1  | I can hear you clearly.                                 | 09:19:10 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>I'm aware that you had given depositions in       | 09:19:12 |\n| 3  | the past in English.                                    | 09:19:15 |\n| 4  | Would you be comfortable proceeding in                  | 09:19:18 |\n| 5  | English today?                                          | 09:19:21 |\n| 6  | A.<br>Okay.<br>My mother tongue is not English, but     | 09:19:37 |\n| 7  | I can try to go through the deposition in English;      | 09:19:54 |\n| 8  | however, I do need the interpreter stand by in case     | 09:19:57 |\n| 9  | I don't understand anything.                            | 09:20:00 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>That -- that sounds perfect, and that is          | 09:20:02 |\n| 11 | just fine with us; so we can proceed in English.<br>And | 09:20:05 |\n| 12 | if you have a question or you would like a question     | 09:20:10 |\n| 13 | translated into Mandarin or if you would like an        | 09:20:13 |\n| 14 | answer translated into Mandarin, please just say so,    | 09:20:20 |\n| 15 | and Ms. Johnston can help.                              | 09:20:24 |\n| 16 | Is that acceptable to you?                              | 09:20:27 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Okay.<br>Yes.                                     | 09:20:30 |\n| 18 | Thank you.                                              | 09:20:52 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Very good.                               | 09:20:52 |\n| 20 | And just a few more things.<br>Because we are           | 09:20:56 |\n| 21 | doing this deposition remotely, it is very important    | 09:20:59 |\n| 22 | for the court reporter that only one person be          | 09:21:03 |\n| 23 | speaking at a time.                                     | 09:21:08 |\n| 24 | Do you understand?                                      | 09:21:09 |\n| 25 | A.<br>(In English)<br>Yes, I do.<br>Yeah.               | 09:21:12 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 11  |\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions 866 299-5127\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 37 of\n\n1 Q. Okay. Super. 09:21:13\n\n2 So if you would, please wait for me to 09:21:18\n\n3 finish my question before you start answering, and 09:21:21\n\n4 I'll do my best to wait for you to stop speaking 09:21:24\n\n5 before I ask my next question. 09:21:28\n\n6 Okay? 09:21:30\n\n280\n\n| 7  | A. | Yes, sir.                               | 09:21:31 |\n|----|----|-----------------------------------------|----------|\n| 8  |    | Thank you.                              | 09:21:33 |\n| 9  | Q. | Okay.<br>Super.                         | 09:21:33 |\n| 10 |    | And as I said a moment ago, if there is | 09:21:35 |\n\n11 a question that you do not understand, please just 09:21:40 12 let me know, and I'm happy to try and rephrase it. 09:21:43 13 And if there is a question that you would prefer be 09:21:48 14 translated in order to answer it, that is no problem. 09:21:52 15 That is what Ms. Johnston is here for. 09:21:56 16 Okay? 09:21:59 17 A. Yes, sir. 09:22:00 18 Thank you. 09:22:02 19 Q. Okay. Are you on any medication or -- 09:22:02 20 MR. ROSEN: Counsel, before we start, 09:22:11 21 stipulations as to objections and signing. 09:22:13 22 What is your preference? 09:22:18 23 MR. HARBACH: I'm not sure I understand, 09:22:20 24 Scott. 09:22:22 25 MR. ROSEN: The usual stipulations? All 09:22:24 Page 12\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 38 of\n\n| 1  | objections reserved to trial except for form?       | 09:22:27 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Yeah.<br>That's okay with me.       | 09:22:32 |\n| 3  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Okay.<br>The witness is not going     | 09:22:36 |\n| 4  | to waive the signing and reading of the transcript. | 09:22:38 |\n| 5  | MR. HARBACH:<br>I didn't hear you, Scott.           | 09:22:42 |\n| 6  | Could you please speak up?                          | 09:22:44 |\n| 7  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes.                                  | 09:22:46 |\n| 8  | The witness will not waive the signing and          | 09:22:46 |\n| 9  | reading of the transcript.                          | 09:22:49 |\n| 10 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>Understood.                | 09:22:50 |\n| 11 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                     | 09:22:58 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, I was just about to ask you if you  | 09:22:58 |\n| 13 | are on any medication or under the influence of     | 09:23:01 |\n| 14 | any- -- anything that might impair your memory or   | 09:23:05 |\n| 15 | interfere with your ability to answer questions     | 09:23:09 |\n| 16 | truthfully.                                         | 09:23:12 |\n| 17 | A.<br>No.                                           | 09:23:15 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Is there any reason you can think of why you  | 09:23:17 |\n| 19 | cannot provide truthful testimony today?            | 09:23:20 |\n| 20 | A.<br>I don't think there is any reason, sir.       | 09:23:24 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Super.                               | 09:23:29 |\n| 22 | I believe you have been deposed at least            | 09:23:30 |\n| 23 | once before in October of 2018 in litigation        | 09:23:37 |\n| 24 | involving PAX.                                      | 09:23:44 |\n| 25 | Do you recall that deposition?                      | 09:23:46 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 13  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 39 of\n\n|  | ન્ડર<br>) | )<br>) | ) |\n|--|-----------|--------|---|\n|  |           |        |   |\n|  |           |        |   |\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I remember I was deposed before, but I don't  | 09:23:48 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | recollect the -- the dates -- the precise dates.    | 09:23:56 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Understand.                                   | 09:23:59 |\n| 4  | Other than that deposition where PAX                | 09:24:00 |\n| 5  | examined you, have you been deposed in any other    | 09:24:09 |\n| 6  | litigation since then?                              | 09:24:13 |\n| 7  | A.<br>Sir, since -- since then?<br>You mean since   | 09:24:15 |\n| 8  | when?                                               | 09:24:19 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Well, I'll represent to you that the          | 09:24:20 |\n| 10 | deposition that PAX conducted of you was in October | 09:24:23 |\n| 11 | of 2018.                                            | 09:24:26 |\n| 12 | And my question is have you been deposed            | 09:24:30 |\n| 13 | since then?                                         | 09:24:33 |\n| 14 | A.<br>I believe so.                                 | 09:24:34 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>And do you recall when?                       | 09:24:37 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't recall.                               | 09:24:44 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>In what proceeding?                           | 09:24:45 |\n| 18 | A.<br>It was in a case called Strategic Vision,     | 09:24:49 |\n| 19 | Eastern Profits -- or Eastern Profits, Strategic    | 09:24:57 |\n| 20 | Vision.<br>It should be the same case.              | 09:25:02 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And in -- in what course is that     | 09:25:04 |\n| 22 | case, if you know?                                  | 09:25:07 |\n| 23 | A.<br>In a court in New York.                       | 09:25:08 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Any other depositions, besides that  | 09:25:11 |\n| 25 | one, since October of 2018?                         | 09:25:20 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 14  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 40 of\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Hmmm.<br>No.                                  | 09:25:25 |  |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|--|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Do you understand that you are here today as  | 09:25:27 |  |\n| 3  | a corporate representative of Golden Spring         | 09:25:35 |  |\n| 4  | (New York)?                                         | 09:25:40 |  |\n| 5  | A.<br>Yes, I do.                                    | 09:25:40 |  |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Did you review the topics that we intend to   | 09:25:42 |  |\n| 7  | cover with you today that were contained in the     | 09:25:48 |  |\n| 8  | deposition notice before your testimony today?      |          |  |\n| 9  | A.<br>Yes.                                          | 09:25:55 |  |\n| 10 | I did review the topics.                            | 09:25:59 |  |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>What did you do to prepare -- excuse | 09:26:01 |  |\n| 12 | me -- prepare for your deposition today, generally  | 09:26:05 |  |\n| 13 | speaking?                                           | 09:26:08 |  |\n| 14 | A.<br>I prepared with our law firm -- with our      | 09:26:09 |  |\n| 15 | attorneys.                                          | 09:26:15 |  |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did you review documents?            | 09:26:16 |  |\n| 17 | A.<br>Yes.                                          | 09:26:21 |  |\n| 18 | I did review documents.                             | 09:26:22 |  |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Did you meet with any other personnel at      | 09:26:24 |  |\n| 20 | Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today? | 09:26:29 |  |\n| 21 | A.<br>Meet -- I'm sorry.                            | 09:26:32 |  |\n| 22 | What do you mean?<br>You mean meet in person?       | 09:26:38 |  |\n| 23 | What do you mean, meet?                             | 09:26:41 |  |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Well, a moment ago you said that the law      | 09:26:43 |  |\n| 25 | firm assisted you in preparing for today.           | 09:26:49 |  |\n|    |                                                     | Page 15  |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 41 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Correct.                                      | 09:26:51 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Did you meet with them in person to do that   | 09:26:52 |\n| 3  | preparation?                                        | 09:26:56 |\n| 4  | A.<br>No.                                           | 09:26:57 |\n| 5  | Due to COVID, I meet our counsels via -- via        | 09:26:59 |\n| 6  | video call.                                         | 09:27:07 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Thank you.                                    | 09:27:08 |\n| 8  | Did you have communications with anyone else        | 09:27:08 |\n| 9  | at Golden Spring -- via telephone, videoconference, | 09:27:11 |\n| 10 | or otherwise -- to prepare for today's deposition?  | 09:27:17 |\n| 11 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                            | 09:27:24 |\n| 12 | The witness can answer without disclosing           | 09:27:25 |\n| 13 | any conversations with either inhouse counsel or    | 09:27:28 |\n| 14 | outside counsel.                                    | 09:27:32 |\n| 15 | THE WITNESS:<br>Sir, sorry.                         | 09:27:36 |\n| 16 | Can you repeat your question?                       | 09:27:37 |\n| 17 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                     | 09:27:40 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Yes.                                          | 09:27:41 |\n| 19 | It was a yes-or-no question that did not            | 09:27:41 |\n| 20 | call for any -- any privileged information.         | 09:27:43 |\n| 21 | The question is did you meet with any               | 09:27:46 |\n| 22 | personnel at Golden Spring -- via telephone, Zoom,  | 09:27:50 |\n| 23 | videoconference or otherwise -- to prepare for your | 09:27:57 |\n| 24 | deposition today?                                   | 09:28:01 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes, I did.                                   | 09:28:01 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 16  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 42 of\n\n280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>With whom did you communicate at                  | 09:28:05 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today?     | 09:28:08 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I communicated with the owner of                  | 09:28:11 |\n| 4  | Golden Spring (New York) Limited, Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>Let | 09:28:18 |\n| 5  | me spell, Q-i-a-n-g, last name G-u-o.                   | 09:28:25 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>How much time did you spend communicating         | 09:28:32 |\n| 7  | with him?                                               | 09:28:37 |\n| 8  | A.<br>How much time?<br>Like, ten fifteen -- about,     | 09:28:38 |\n| 9  | like, fifteen minutes -- ten, fifteen minutes.          | 09:28:49 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Is there anyone else at Golden Spring with        | 09:28:52 |\n| 11 | whom you communicated to prepare for today's            | 09:28:55 |\n| 12 | deposition?                                             | 09:28:57 |\n| 13 | A.<br>No.                                               | 09:28:57 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Is there anyone else in the world, other          | 09:28:58 |\n| 15 | than attorneys, with whom you communicated to prepare   | 09:29:01 |\n| 16 | for today's deposition?                                 | 09:29:05 |\n| 17 | A.<br>No.                                               | 09:29:07 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>What is the name of -- withdrawn.                 | 09:29:09 |\n| 19 | A moment ago, when you said you met with                | 09:29:26 |\n| 20 | lawyers to prepare for today's deposition, lawyers      | 09:29:29 |\n| 21 | from which firm or firms?                               | 09:29:35 |\n| 22 | A.<br>Attorneys from Mr. Scott Rosen's firm.            | 09:29:37 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\n10 Q. Is there anyone else at Golden Spring with 09:28:52 11 whom you communicated to prepare for today's 09:28:55 12 deposition? 09:28:57 13 A. No. 09:28:57 14 Q. Is there anyone else in the world, other 09:28:58 15 than attorneys, with whom you communicated to prepare 09:29:01 16 for today's deposition? 09:29:05 17 A. No. 09:29:07 18 Q. What is the name of -- withdrawn. 09:29:09 19 A moment ago, when you said you met with 09:29:26 20 lawyers to prepare for today's deposition, lawyers 09:29:29 21 from which firm or firms? 09:29:35 22 A. Attorneys from Mr. Scott Rosen's firm. 09:29:37 23 I couldn't pronounce his law firm's name. It should 09:29:45 24 be -- I mean, it is complicated for me to pronounce 09:29:49 25 his law firm's name; so Mr. Scott Rosen and his 09:29:55 Page 17\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 43 of 280\n\n| 1  | colleague, Mr. Timothy -- Tim.                        | 09:29:59 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Tim Miltenberger?                               | 09:30:01 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I believe so.<br>I don't remember his last      | 09:30:05 |\n| 4  | name.<br>It sounds like it correct.                   | 09:30:07 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did you meet or consult with any       | 09:30:09 |\n| 6  | lawyers from the Brown Rudnick firm to prepare for    | 09:30:13 |\n| 7  | today's deposition?                                   | 09:30:23 |\n| 8  | A.<br>No, I didn't.                                   | 09:30:24 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>When was Golden Spring (New York) Limited       | 09:30:27 |\n| 10 | formed?                                               | 09:30:40 |\n| 11 | A.<br>Golden Spring (New York) Limited was formed     | 09:30:40 |\n| 12 | in the year of 2015.                                  | 09:30:45 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Does March 2015 sound about right to you?       | 09:30:47 |\n| 14 | A.<br>In March, yes.                                  | 09:30:54 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>What is Golden Spring (New York)'s              | 09:30:59 |\n| 16 | relationship to Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?            | 09:31:03 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Golden Spring (New York) Limited is             | 09:31:09 |\n| 18 | 100 percent owned by China Golden Spring (Hong Kong). | 09:31:15 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>And for purposes of today's deposition, I'm     | 09:31:21 |\n| 20 | going to refer to China Golden Spring (Hong Kong) as  | 09:31:27 |\n| 21 | just Golden Spring (Hong Kong).                       | 09:31:33 |\n| 22 | Is that okay with you?                                | 09:31:36 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 09:31:37 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did you ever work at Golden Spring     | 09:31:39 |\n| 25 | (Hong Kong)?                                          | 09:31:45 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 18  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 44 of\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Yes.                                                | 09:31:49 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Do you recall when you worked there?                | 09:31:50 |\n| 3  | A.<br>That was back to 2016 for, like, a couple of        | 09:31:53 |\n| 4  | months.                                                   | 09:32:05 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>I would like to show you what I'm          | 09:32:07 |\n| 6  | going to mark as Exhibit 1.                               | 09:32:22 |\n| 7  | (Deposition Exhibit Number 1                              | 09:32:29 |\n| 8  | was marked for identification.)                           | 09:32:29 |\n| 9  | MR. HARBACH:<br>And we'll just wait a moment              | 09:32:32 |\n| 10 | for my colleague to drop it in there.<br>Just sit         | 09:32:34 |\n| 11 | tight, everybody.<br>It will be there in a second.        | 09:32:56 |\n| 12 | Sorry for the delay.<br>We are working on it.<br>It seems | 09:33:17 |\n| 13 | to be a little slow.<br>It is uploading now.              | 09:33:30 |\n| 14 | Ms. Russo is telling me it should be in                   | 09:34:30 |\n| 15 | there, but I don't see it in my marked exhibits           | 09:34:33 |\n| 16 | folder.                                                   | 09:34:37 |\n| 17 | Does anyone else?                                         | 09:34:38 |\n| 18 | MR. KAPLAN:<br>There -- there are two folders.            | 09:34:42 |\n| 19 | It looks like it is in the second one.                    | 09:34:45 |\n| 20 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>Got it.                          | 09:34:57 |\n| 21 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Counsel --                                  | 09:34:59 |\n| 22 | MR. HARBACH:<br>That seems --                             | 09:35:00 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN:<br>-- before we --                             | 09:35:00 |\n| 24 | MR. HARBACH:<br>That seems to be the way it is            | 09:35:02 |\n| 25 | on -- on my computer.<br>It is in the second one in       | 09:35:05 |\n|    |                                                           | Page 19  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 45 of 280\n\n| 1  | the -- the second one that says deposition of         | 09:35:07 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Yvette Wang.                                          | 09:35:11 |\n| 3  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Counsel, before you proceed with        | 09:35:11 |\n| 4  | the question, could you please explain to me which of | 09:35:13 |\n| 5  | the 30(b)(6) topics this document pertains to.        | 09:35:17 |\n| 6  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Well, it could be -- it could         | 09:35:23 |\n| 7  | be any number of them because the document is the     | 09:35:25 |\n| 8  | transcript of her prior deposition; so it will be     | 09:35:29 |\n| 9  | multiple such topics.                                 | 09:35:33 |\n| 10 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'll reserve the right to object        | 09:35:36 |\n| 11 | and instruct the witness not to answer if it exceeds  | 09:35:38 |\n| 12 | the scope of the 30(b)(6).                            | 09:35:42 |\n| 13 | But go ahead and proceed.                             | 09:35:43 |\n| 14 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Understood.                           | 09:35:46 |\n| 15 | Is there anyone who can't see the exhibit in          | 09:35:49 |\n| 16 | their marked exhibits folder before I go on?          | 09:35:51 |\n| 17 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 09:35:59 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Ms. Wang, can you see it?              | 09:36:00 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Sir, I can see a .pd- -- it says .pdf file      | 09:36:03 |\n| 20 | with forty-two pages.                                 | 09:36:07 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>You got it?                                     | 09:36:09 |\n| 22 | A.<br>This is the one?                                | 09:36:11 |\n| 23 | Got it.<br>Okay.                                      | 09:36:12 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                     | 09:36:13 |\n| 25 | Please open that one up.                              | 09:36:15 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 20  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 46 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                               | 09:36:18 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Yes.                                                    | 09:36:18 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>So just to refresh your recollection before       | 09:36:19 |\n| 4  | I proceed, the question I put to you concerned the      | 09:36:22 |\n| 5  | dates that you worked at Golden Spring (Hong Kong).     | 09:36:25 |\n| 6  | And I believe you said that it was approximately        | 09:36:31 |\n| 7  | 2016.<br>And I just want to show you in the deposition  | 09:36:36 |\n| 8  | in 2018 where you were asked about this.<br>Let me read | 09:36:42 |\n| 9  | what you said, and then ask the question again.         | 09:36:49 |\n| 10 | So I -- can I direct your attention to page             | 09:36:52 |\n| 11 | thirty of the transcript.                               | 09:36:55 |\n| 12 | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                               | 09:37:00 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Let me know when you are there.                   | 09:37:02 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Page thirty, three, zero, sir; right?             | 09:37:09 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.<br>That is right.                     | 09:37:15 |\n| 16 | And it is the -- you know, page thirty of               | 09:37:18 |\n| 17 | the miniature pages.                                    | 09:37:21 |\n| 18 | Do you see how each of the miniature pages              | 09:37:23 |\n| 19 | is numbered?                                            | 09:37:26 |\n| 20 | A.<br>I am on page thirty.                              | 09:37:30 |\n| 21 | What do you mean, miniature pages?<br>I don't           | 09:37:33 |\n| 22 | understand that.                                        | 09:37:38 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Well, each -- sure.                               | 09:37:39 |\n| 24 | Each page of the document that I just sent              | 09:37:41 |\n| 25 | you has four pages of the transcript on it.             | 09:37:44 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 21  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 47 of\n\n| 1  | Do you see that?                                       | 09:37:47 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 09:37:48 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So those are the page numbers that      | 09:37:48 |\n| 4  | I am referring to.<br>And on page thirty, at line ten, | 09:37:52 |\n| 5  | you were asked a question that reads:                  | 09:38:03 |\n| 6  | \"QUESTION:<br>Then you moved to Hong Kong              | 09:38:05 |\n| 7  | in 2015 to work in September of 2015 to work           | 09:38:07 |\n| 8  | for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?\"                        | 09:38:13 |\n| 9  | And your answer was:                                   | 09:38:18 |\n| 10 | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.\"                                      | 09:38:19 |\n| 11 | Do you see that there?                                 | 09:38:21 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Sir, which page?<br>It is page thirty, but       | 09:38:23 |\n| 13 | there are four -- four little page number.             | 09:38:26 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>For --                                           | 09:38:31 |\n| 15 | A.<br>I'm not sure which one.                          | 09:38:32 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Right.                                           | 09:38:34 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Is it Page 113 or 14, 15 or 16?<br>Which one     | 09:38:35 |\n| 18 | you are talking about?                                 | 09:38:39 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>I understand.<br>I understand your confusion.    | 09:38:41 |\n| 20 | When I refer to page numbers of this                   | 09:38:44 |\n| 21 | transcript, I am only talking about the pages -- the   | 09:38:46 |\n| 22 | page numbers for the small pages.                      | 09:38:51 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Oh.                                              | 09:38:53 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay?                                            | 09:38:54 |\n| 25 | And I know it is confusing.<br>I'm sorry.              | 09:38:57 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 22  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 48 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>All right.<br>Let me go back and find it.          | 09:38:59 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>Go back to page thirty of the little      | 09:39:01 |\n| 3  | pages.                                                   | 09:39:04 |\n| 4  | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                                | 09:39:06 |\n| 5  | Yes.                                                     | 09:39:14 |\n| 6  | I'm on the little page, on page thirty right             | 09:39:14 |\n| 7  | now.                                                     | 09:39:17 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Yes.<br>Sorry for the confusion.          | 09:39:17 |\n| 9  | So take a look at line ten on page thirty,               | 09:39:19 |\n| 10 | and you will see a question there about when you         | 09:39:22 |\n| 11 | moved to Hong Kong to work for Golden Spring             | 09:39:26 |\n| 12 | (Hong Kong).                                             | 09:39:30 |\n| 13 | Do you see that?                                         | 09:39:31 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                               | 09:39:35 |\n| 15 | I saw this.                                              | 09:39:53 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so my question for you is --          | 09:39:55 |\n| 17 | first of all, let's just focus on the date.              | 09:40:00 |\n| 18 | Okay?<br>Having read this, does that inform              | 09:40:03 |\n| 19 | your judgment about when it was that you began to        | 09:40:09 |\n| 20 | work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?                      | 09:40:12 |\n| 21 | A.<br>My answer, back to this page, which I mean         | 09:40:16 |\n| 22 | that, yes.<br>I moved to Hong Kong in 2015, and then     | 09:40:25 |\n| 23 | I worked in there.<br>I traveled to -- in U.S.<br>But if | 09:40:28 |\n| 24 | you have my full Golden Spring (New York) corporation    | 09:40:34 |\n| 25 | records, I officially start work in Golden Spring        | 09:40:41 |\n|    |                                                          |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 49 of\n\n| 1  | from 2018, I believe; so before that I don't believe | 09:40:44 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | I work for Golden Spring (New York).<br>Technically, | 09:40:52 |\n| 3  | I work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and -- which    | 09:40:56 |\n| 4  | include the time of the 2016, when I revert because  | 09:41:01 |\n| 5  | 2015 -- 2016 I revert.<br>2016, that is a more       | 09:41:06 |\n| 6  | consecutive period of time for me to base in         | 09:41:12 |\n| 7  | Hong Kong; so besides that, I traveled between       | 09:41:16 |\n| 8  | Hong Kong/U.S.                                       | 09:41:20 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So I think I understand you, but      | 09:41:22 |\n| 10 | I want to make sure.                                 | 09:41:25 |\n| 11 | In approximately 2015 you started working            | 09:41:28 |\n| 12 | for Golden Spring (Hong Kong), and you worked for    | 09:41:33 |\n| 13 | Golden Spring (Hong Kong) until sometime in 2018, at | 09:41:40 |\n| 14 | which point you began working for Golden Spring      | 09:41:46 |\n| 15 | (New York).                                          | 09:41:49 |\n| 16 | Do I have that right?                                | 09:41:49 |\n| 17 | A.<br>I officially started to work for               | 09:41:53 |\n| 18 | Golden Spring (New York) from 2018, yes.<br>You are  | 09:41:57 |\n| 19 | correct on that.                                     | 09:42:03 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And prior to that, you worked for     | 09:42:04 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring (Hong Kong); is that correct?          | 09:42:10 |\n| 22 | A.<br>I believe it is more a mix because I was       | 09:42:14 |\n| 23 | working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and same time  | 09:42:20 |\n| 24 | I was working for Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business | 09:42:23 |\n| 25 | in China also; so that is the reason when I referred | 09:42:29 |\n|    |                                                      |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 50 of 280\n\n| 1  | I was in Hong Kong in 2016.<br>That is a -- as I said, | 09:42:33 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | a period of consecutive time for me to -- leaving      | 09:42:42 |\n| 3  | Hong Kong and working Hong Kong -- for Hong Kong.      | 09:42:46 |\n| 4  | That is my -- that is my representation.               | 09:42:49 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Were you -- at the time you were working for     | 09:42:51 |\n| 6  | Golden Spring (Hong Kong), were you physically in      | 09:42:55 |\n| 7  | Hong Kong?                                             | 09:43:00 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Not always.                                      | 09:43:03 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>When did you move to the                | 09:43:05 |\n| 10 | United States?                                         | 09:43:11 |\n| 11 | A.<br>What do you mean, move, sir?                     | 09:43:11 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>When did you come to the United States for       | 09:43:17 |\n| 13 | the first time?<br>How about that?                     | 09:43:22 |\n| 14 | A.<br>That was many years ago.                         | 09:43:26 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Did you come to the United States during the     | 09:43:28 |\n| 16 | time that you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?    | 09:43:34 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 09:43:37 |\n| 18 | During the time I worked for Golden Spring             | 09:43:39 |\n| 19 | (Hong Kong), I did travel into the United States       | 09:43:43 |\n| 20 | also.                                                  | 09:43:46 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>When was that?                          | 09:43:47 |\n| 22 | A.<br>Oh, I couldn't recall.<br>It should -- between   | 09:43:49 |\n| 23 | 2015 to 2017 or '18.<br>I couldn't recall.             | 09:43:56 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>When you came to the United States in that       | 09:44:07 |\n| 25 | time period, did you return to China?                  | 09:44:10 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 25  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 51 of\n\n| 1  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>Counsel, could you            | 09:44:15 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | please show me which of the 30(b)(6) topics this          | 09:44:18 |\n| 3  | relates to and give me some explanation as to where       | 09:44:21 |\n| 4  | you are going here.                                       | 09:44:24 |\n| 5  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Yeah.<br>Sure.                            | 09:44:26 |\n| 6  | I am really just trying to get basic                      | 09:44:26 |\n| 7  | background of the witness' affiliation with the           | 09:44:29 |\n| 8  | company that she represents.<br>It is very basic.<br>I am | 09:44:34 |\n| 9  | trying to figure out when she worked, where, and for      | 09:44:36 |\n| 10 | whom.<br>That's it.<br>It informs her competency as the   | 09:44:40 |\n| 11 | 30(b)(6) witness, and it gives con- -- it gives           | 09:44:44 |\n| 12 | context to her later testimony.                           | 09:44:47 |\n| 13 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I -- honestly, I don't see how              | 09:44:49 |\n| 14 | her travel plans has anything to do with this.            | 09:44:52 |\n| 15 | And I'm going to instruct the witness at                  | 09:44:56 |\n| 16 | this point to simply not answer questions about her       | 09:44:58 |\n| 17 | travel and her whereabouts at various times.<br>If you    | 09:45:02 |\n| 18 | would like to ask questions about her specific duties     | 09:45:05 |\n| 19 | and what she performed and when she performed it,         | 09:45:08 |\n| 20 | I have no objection to that.                              | 09:45:11 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH:<br>And you -- you are going to               | 09:45:12 |\n| 22 | object to any question about her physical location        | 09:45:13 |\n| 23 | when she performed those duties?<br>Is that what          | 09:45:16 |\n| 24 | I understand?                                             | 09:45:18 |\n| 25 | MR. ROSEN:<br>You -- your questions were going            | 09:45:20 |\n|    |                                                           |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 52 of 280\n\n| 1  | way beyond that.<br>If you want to ask her specific       | 09:45:23 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | duty and where she was, then we can address that          | 09:45:25 |\n| 3  | question as it comes up.<br>But you are asking about      | 09:45:28 |\n| 4  | general travel plans.<br>You are asking about her --      | 09:45:31 |\n| 5  | her work for other companies.<br>She is a 30(b)(6)        | 09:45:35 |\n| 6  | witness for Golden Spring (New York), and that is         | 09:45:38 |\n| 7  | where the questions should be directed.                   | 09:45:41 |\n| 8  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                           | 09:45:44 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, where were you physically located         | 09:45:45 |\n| 10 | when you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?            | 09:45:47 |\n| 11 | A.<br>What do you mean, physically located?               | 09:45:55 |\n| 12 | I mean, like, stay in hotel or staying -- I mean,         | 09:45:59 |\n| 13 | I don't understand, sir.                                  | 09:46:03 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>What country were you in when you worked for        | 09:46:04 |\n| 15 | Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?                                | 09:46:07 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I was in Hong Kong, and I was -- I traveled         | 09:46:10 |\n| 17 | in the U.S.<br>I traveled in UK.<br>I mean, I still don't | 09:46:14 |\n| 18 | understand what do you mean physically located, but       | 09:46:19 |\n| 19 | that is the places I had been to.                         | 09:46:22 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did there come a time when you             | 09:46:24 |\n| 21 | merge -- moved to the United States permanently for       | 09:46:29 |\n| 22 | work?                                                     | 09:46:35 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Sir, what do you mean permanently?                  | 09:46:35 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Did you move?                                       | 09:46:38 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Permanent --                                        | 09:46:40 |\n|    |                                                           | Page 27  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 53 of 280\n\n1 Q. Did you move? Do you know what I mean by 09:46:42 2 move? 09:46:47 3 A. Yes. 09:46:47 4 Q. Okay. Did there come a time when you moved 09:46:48 5 to the United States for work? 09:46:51 6 A. Yes. 09:46:59 7 Q. When was that? 09:47:00 8 A. That was started I became to be the officer 09:47:01 9 and director of Golden Spring (New York). 09:47:09 10 Q. Which was when? 09:47:11 11 A. That was beginning of 2018, late of 2017. 09:47:17 12 I couldn't remember. It should be beginning of 2018. 09:47:25 13 Q. Okay. I'm going to show you another 09:47:29 14 document. 09:47:36 15 MR. HARBACH: We'll call this one number 09:47:38 16 two. 09:47:41 17 (Deposition Exhibit Number 2 09:47:41 18 was marked for identification.) 09:48:39 19 BY MR. HARBACH: 09:48:39 20 Q. Do you see Exhibit 2 in your folder, 09:48:40 21 Ms. Wang? 09:48:42 22 A. Yes. 09:48:44 23 Q. Okay. It should also be a .pdf. Please 09:48:46 24 open it up. 09:48:51 25 A. (Witness complies.) 09:48:52 Page 28\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 54 of\n\n| 1  | Yes, I did.                                           | 09:48:54 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Now, on this one I'm going to ask you  | 09:48:55 |\n| 3  | to turn to page -- okay -- forty-nine.                | 09:49:01 |\n| 4  | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                             | 09:49:14 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Tell me when you are on page forty-nine.        | 09:49:27 |\n| 6  | A.<br>Yes, I am.                                      | 09:49:34 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Looking at line five, the question     | 09:49:35 |\n| 8  | was put to you:                                       | 09:49:39 |\n| 9  | \"QUESTION:<br>And when did you move to                | 09:49:41 |\n| 10 | New York to start working for the Guo                 | 09:49:43 |\n| 11 | family?\"                                              | 09:49:47 |\n| 12 | Your answer:                                          | 09:49:48 |\n| 13 | \"ANSWER:<br>That was a date I never                   | 09:49:50 |\n| 14 | forget.<br>That was April 23rd, 2015.\"                | 09:49:52 |\n| 15 | Do you see that there?                                | 09:49:59 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes, I did.                                     | 09:50:01 |\n| 17 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>This deposition, for         | 09:50:02 |\n| 18 | the record -- correction.                             | 09:50:04 |\n| 19 | This testimony, for the record, was given in          | 09:50:06 |\n| 20 | May of 2019, just under three years ago.              | 09:50:09 |\n| 21 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 09:50:15 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>So is that accurate that you moved to           | 09:50:16 |\n| 23 | New York to start working for the Guo family in April | 09:50:20 |\n| 24 | of 2015?                                              | 09:50:24 |\n| 25 | A.<br>As I said, English is not my mother             | 09:50:26 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 29  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 55 of 280\n\n| 1  | language.<br>When you say move, I mean, I understand      | 09:50:32 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | better by now more than two, three -- three, four         | 09:50:35 |\n| 3  | years ago, and that was right.<br>I left China.<br>I came | 09:50:40 |\n| 4  | to New York -- I came to New York first.<br>Then I went   | 09:50:45 |\n| 5  | back to Hong Kong.                                        | 09:50:49 |\n| 6  | So regarding work for it the Guo family,                  | 09:50:50 |\n| 7  | which I refer always as my -- my boss -- like, the        | 09:50:54 |\n| 8  | owner of Golden Spring, Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g        | 09:51:00 |\n| 9  | G-u-o -- that is the same Guo family.                     | 09:51:06 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>So did you start working for the Guo family         | 09:51:09 |\n| 11 | in New York in April of 2015?<br>Is that correct or not   | 09:51:23 |\n| 12 | correct?                                                  | 09:51:33 |\n| 13 | A.<br>I started to work for the Guo family from           | 09:51:33 |\n| 14 | 2000 -- end of 2008.<br>That is, like --                  | 09:51:39 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>Let me -- let me interrupt and ask my      | 09:51:43 |\n| 16 | question again as you may have misunderstood it.          | 09:51:46 |\n| 17 | Did you start working for the Guo family in               | 09:51:49 |\n| 18 | New York in April of 2015?                                | 09:51:52 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Start work for the Guo family.<br>I mean,           | 09:52:00 |\n| 20 | again, I don't remember this question many years ago.     | 09:52:13 |\n| 21 | As I said --                                              | 09:52:17 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>No.                                                 | 09:52:18 |\n| 23 | You -- you -- you testified that it was                   | 09:52:18 |\n| 24 | a date you'll never forget; so that is why I'm            | 09:52:20 |\n| 25 | pressing you a little bit on it.                          | 09:52:25 |\n|    |                                                           | Page 30  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 56 of\n\n| 1  | My question is when did you start working               | 09:52:27 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | for the Guo family in New York?<br>The transcript here  | 09:52:32 |\n| 3  | seems to suggest that that was in April of 2015, and    | 09:52:38 |\n| 4  | I'm asking you whether that is accurate.                | 09:52:44 |\n| 5  | Is it accurate?<br>Is it not accurate?<br>Or do         | 09:52:47 |\n| 6  | you not know?                                           | 09:52:51 |\n| 7  | A.<br>April 23rd in 2015.<br>That is the date           | 09:52:52 |\n| 8  | I never forgot because I left China.<br>I was never --  | 09:53:00 |\n| 9  | I was never able to go back.                            | 09:53:03 |\n| 10 | Okay?                                                   | 09:53:06 |\n| 11 | So that is accurate.<br>When I answered this            | 09:53:07 |\n| 12 | question, I don't believe I have any interpreter help   | 09:53:10 |\n| 13 | me by then; so the question looks like right now        | 09:53:14 |\n| 14 | reading as when did you move to New York to start       | 09:53:18 |\n| 15 | working for the Guo family?<br>I was not quite          | 09:53:21 |\n| 16 | understanding this question without translation by      | 09:53:24 |\n| 17 | then; so if you ask me when I start to work for Guo     | 09:53:27 |\n| 18 | family, which I can tell you, I started -- my career    | 09:53:31 |\n| 19 | started from 2008, but I started to work for Guo        | 09:53:36 |\n| 20 | family outside of China.<br>That was started from 2015. | 09:53:40 |\n| 21 | That is my correct and truthful answer now.             | 09:53:44 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And that was in New York City; correct?           | 09:53:47 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Starting from New York and Hong Kong.             | 09:53:49 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.                                             | 09:53:53 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I mean, by then Mr. Qiang Guo, he was in          | 09:54:06 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 31  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 57 of 280\n\n| 1  | New York and Hong Kong both.<br>I don't see now where  | 09:54:09 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | there is any problem.<br>I said I'll work in New York  | 09:54:11 |\n| 3  | and Hong Kong -- starting from New York and back to    | 09:54:11 |\n| 4  | Hong Kong because I originally need to follow          | 09:54:13 |\n| 5  | Mr. Qiang Guo, if that makes sense to you, sir.        | 09:54:18 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Well, I just want to point out that I wasn't     | 09:54:21 |\n| 7  | suggesting there was a problem.<br>I am just trying to | 09:54:25 |\n| 8  | understand the facts of what happened; so here is my   | 09:54:28 |\n| 9  | next question.                                         | 09:54:31 |\n| 10 | When did you start working at Golden Spring            | 09:54:32 |\n| 11 | (New York)?                                            | 09:54:36 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I believe I replied your question, sir,          | 09:54:40 |\n| 13 | about Golden Spring (New York).<br>That was started -- | 09:54:44 |\n| 14 | I was appointed as officer and director of             | 09:54:46 |\n| 15 | Golden Spring (New York).                              | 09:54:50 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>When?                                            | 09:54:50 |\n| 17 | A.<br>2018.                                            | 09:54:51 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Do you recall when in 2018?                      | 09:54:54 |\n| 19 | A.<br>In spring of 2018.                               | 09:54:59 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Let's go back to Exhibit 1.<br>Let me   | 09:55:02 |\n| 21 | know when you have got Exhibit 1 pulled up, Ms. Wang.  | 09:55:14 |\n| 22 | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                              | 09:55:19 |\n| 23 | Yes.<br>I'm here.                                      | 09:55:20 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Page numbers again, I'm talking about   | 09:55:22 |\n| 25 | the little page numbers.<br>If you please go to page   | 09:55:25 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 32  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 58 of\n\n280\n\n1 thirty-five. 09:55:32 2 A. (Witness complies.) 09:55:36 3 Q. Let me know -- 09:55:50 4 A. Yes. 09:55:51 5 Q. -- when you are there. 09:55:52 6 A. Yes. I'm here. 09:55:54 7 Q. Okay. Take a look on page thirty-five of 09:55:55 8 Exhibit 1, line ten. 09:55:59 9 A. (Witness complies.) 09:56:00 10 Q. The question reads: 09:56:05 11 \"QUESTION: You said in February of 2018 09:56:07 12 you came to work for Golden Spring 09:56:09 13 (New York)?\" 09:56:09 14 And your answer was: 09:56:13 15 \"ANSWER: Yes.\" 09:56:15 16 Now, my only focus here is on whether 09:56:16 17 February of '18 sounds like the correct date to you 09:56:18 18 of when you started working for Golden Spring 09:56:22 19 (New York). 09:56:25 20 A. Sir, I replied as in spring of 2018. 09:56:28 21 I mean -- 09:56:33 22 Q. I'm -- I'm not suggesting anything other 09:56:36 23 than whether February is correct. 09:56:39 24 Does that sound about right to you? 09:56:42 25 A. I don't recall. In spring of 2018. You 09:56:46 Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 59 of 280\n\n| 1  | could check on Golden Spring (New York)'s corporation | 09:56:49 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | book.<br>It should be clearly in there.               | 09:56:54 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Was anyone else working at Golden Spring        | 09:56:56 |\n| 4  | (New York) when you started there in the spring of    | 09:57:07 |\n| 5  | 2018?                                                 | 09:57:09 |\n| 6  | A.<br>What do you mean, is there anyone working at    | 09:57:10 |\n| 7  | Golden Spring (New York)?                             | 09:57:20 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Well, you mentioned that you were, I think      | 09:57:21 |\n| 9  | you said, appointed to Golden Spring in the spring of | 09:57:24 |\n| 10 | 2018.                                                 | 09:57:29 |\n| 11 | My question for you is at the time that you           | 09:57:32 |\n| 12 | were appointed, were there any other people working   | 09:57:34 |\n| 13 | for Golden Spring (New York)?                         | 09:57:40 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Mr. Qiang Guo, himself.                         | 09:57:44 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And what was his job?                  | 09:57:49 |\n| 16 | A.<br>He is one of the directors of Golden Spring     | 09:57:55 |\n| 17 | (New York).                                           | 09:57:59 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Anyone else?                                    | 09:57:59 |\n| 19 | A.<br>No.                                             | 09:58:03 |\n| 20 | Just me and himself, when I was appointed.            | 09:58:08 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>So no other employees who worked at             | 09:58:14 |\n| 22 | Golden Spring at that time?                           | 09:58:19 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 09:58:23 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Do you recall whether there was a chauffeur     | 09:58:23 |\n| 25 | who worked for Golden Spring (New York) at that time? | 09:58:33 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 34  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 60 of 280\n\n| 1  | A. | I don't recall.                                 | 09:58:35 |\n|----|----|-------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q. | Let's take a look at Exhibit 1 again.           | 09:58:35 |\n| 3  | A. | (Witness complies.)                             | 09:58:41 |\n| 4  | Q. | And this time let's go to page forty.           | 09:58:51 |\n| 5  | A. | (Witness complies.)                             | 09:58:55 |\n| 6  | Q. | Tell me when you are there.                     | 09:59:02 |\n| 7  | A. | Yes, I am.                                      | 09:59:07 |\n| 8  | Q. | Okay.<br>Take a look at line seven.<br>You say: | 09:59:08 |\n| 9  |    | \"ANSWER:<br>I remember that there was           | 09:59:24 |\n| 10 |    | a driver.<br>I met a chauffeur, a Korean        | 09:59:25 |\n| 11 |    | gentleman, yes.\"                                | 09:59:30 |\n| 12 |    | And then there is a question:                   | 09:59:33 |\n| 13 |    | \"QUESTION:<br>You believe he was an             | 09:59:35 |\n| 14 |    | employee of Golden Spring before February of    | 09:59:36 |\n| 15 |    | '18?\"                                           | 09:59:39 |\n| 16 |    | Your answer:                                    | 09:59:40 |\n| 17 |    | \"ANSWER:<br>February of 2018, that was he       | 09:59:43 |\n| 18 |    | told me by then.                                | 09:59:46 |\n| 19 |    | \"QUESTION:<br>You met a chauffeur who told      | 09:59:48 |\n| 20 |    | you that he was an employee of Golden Spring    | 09:59:50 |\n| 21 |    | (New York)?                                     | 09:59:53 |\n| 22 |    | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.\"                               | 09:59:54 |\n| 23 |    | And then you say that he was the one who        | 09:59:55 |\n| 24 |    | picked you up at the airport.                   | 09:59:58 |\n| 25 |    | Does that refresh your recollection about       | 10:00:01 |\n|    |    |                                                 |          |\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions 866 299-5127\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 61 of\n\n| 1  | whether there was a chauffeur employed at                   | 10:00:03 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Golden Spring (New York) when you started there?            | 10:00:07 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Sir, I am the witness today -- in my                  | 10:00:12 |\n| 4  | understanding is about bankruptcy.<br>I mean that this      | 10:00:18 |\n| 5  | is my task -- this was my testimony how many years          | 10:00:21 |\n| 6  | ago?<br>Three, four years ago?                              | 10:00:27 |\n| 7  | I mean, I could remember by then because                    | 10:00:29 |\n| 8  | that was a relatively closer date.<br>I was deposed in      | 10:00:32 |\n| 9  | October 2018, as you said.<br>Now it is almost three        | 10:00:37 |\n| 10 | and a half, four years after.<br>I mean, just so many       | 10:00:41 |\n| 11 | years pass by, I couldn't remember that.<br>But since       | 10:00:45 |\n| 12 | my testimony back to 2018 in here said that, that is        | 10:00:50 |\n| 13 | possible.<br>That reminded me.<br>That's right.<br>But that | 10:00:54 |\n| 14 | doesn't mean that after three and a half, four years,       | 10:00:57 |\n| 15 | I still should remember all the details; right?<br>I am     | 10:01:02 |\n| 16 | being deposed in here about a bankruptcy.                   | 10:01:02 |\n| 17 | Am I correct about this?                                    | 10:01:07 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Well, you are -- you are right about one              | 10:01:09 |\n| 19 | part, and that is that I offered you this information       | 10:01:11 |\n| 20 | to see if it would help refresh your memory.                | 10:01:14 |\n| 21 | And, indeed, that was the question, whether                 | 10:01:19 |\n| 22 | reading this transcript helps refresh your memory           | 10:01:22 |\n| 23 | about whether there was a chauffeur working at              | 10:01:25 |\n| 24 | Golden Spring (New York) when you started.                  | 10:01:30 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I --                                                  | 10:01:31 |\n|    |                                                             | Page 36  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 62 of\n\n| 1  | MR. ROSEN:<br>At this point, I'm going to             | 10:01:31 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | instruct the witness not to answer any further        | 10:01:33 |\n| 3  | questions along these lines.                          | 10:01:36 |\n| 4  | This is a deposition in a contested matter            | 10:01:37 |\n| 5  | for approval of a DIP financing arrangement in        | 10:01:41 |\n| 6  | a bankruptcy case.<br>So far, of the list of 30(b)(6) | 10:01:49 |\n| 7  | topics, these questions barely hit on any of these -- | 10:01:52 |\n| 8  | of the topics, maybe a little bit on the ownership    | 10:01:55 |\n| 9  | structure.<br>You have already covered the officers,  | 10:01:58 |\n| 10 | employees, and directors, and so far nothing about    | 10:02:02 |\n| 11 | a DIP loan.                                           | 10:02:06 |\n| 12 | So I would ask you, if you are going to do            | 10:02:07 |\n| 13 | a fishing expedition or try and extend litigation     | 10:02:10 |\n| 14 | from other courts here, that I would have to instruct | 10:02:12 |\n| 15 | the witness not to answer.                            | 10:02:17 |\n| 16 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:02:18 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, just a moment ago you said that       | 10:02:18 |\n| 18 | reading this deposition transcript did help you       | 10:02:22 |\n| 19 | remember.                                             | 10:02:26 |\n| 20 | And so my question is was there or was there          | 10:02:26 |\n| 21 | not a chauffeur working at Golden Spring (New York)   | 10:02:29 |\n| 22 | at the time you started there?                        | 10:02:32 |\n| 23 | A.<br>As my testimony back to 2018 said so, it is     | 10:02:37 |\n| 24 | possible.<br>You are helpful, sir.                    | 10:02:42 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Was Mr. Mileson Kwok living in         | 10:02:44 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 63 of 280\n\n1 New York when you started working at Golden Spring 10:03:01 2 (New York)? 10:03:03 3 MR. ROSEN: Objection. I instruct the 10:03:03 4 witness not to answer. 10:03:05 5 This has no relevance whatsoever to any of 10:03:06 6 the 30(b)(6) deposition topics, none. And the 10:03:06 7 purpose of this is strictly to either relitigate or 10:03:12 8 extend litigation from other courts or to harass this 10:03:13 9 witness. 10:03:17 10 BY MR. HARBACH: 10:03:18 11 Q. Ms. Wang, do you know who Mileson Kwok is? 10:03:18 12 A. Can you spell the name again, sir, please? 10:03:25 13 Q. Yes. 10:03:28 14 M-i-l-e-s-o-n Kwok, K-w-o-k. 10:03:29 15 Do you know who that is? 10:03:39 16 A. I don't know who you are referring, sir. 10:03:41 17 Q. Okay. You have mentioned someone who was 10:03:43 18 a director of Golden Spring at the time you became 10:03:47 19 a director. 10:03:51 20 What is that person's name? 10:03:52 21 A. If you refer to Mr. Qiang Guo, the same 10:03:56 22 director when I was appointed, his name is Q-i-a-n-g 10:04:01 23 G-u-o. His English name is Mileson, M-i-l-e-s-o-n, 10:04:08 24 and the last name is G-u-o, sir, if that is helpful 10:04:20 25 to you. 10:04:25\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 64 of\n\n| 1  | Is this the person you are referring?                   | 10:04:27 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>It -- it is.                                      | 10:04:29 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Okay.                                             | 10:04:29 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>And --                                            | 10:04:29 |\n| 5  | A.<br>I never heard about someone called                | 10:04:30 |\n| 6  | Mileson Kwok.<br>I mean, I never heard about this       | 10:04:33 |\n| 7  | person.                                                 | 10:04:36 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>How is Mileson Guo related to            | 10:04:36 |\n| 9  | Wengui Guo?<br>And that is spelled W-e-n-g-u-i G-u-o.   | 10:04:45 |\n| 10 | How are they related, if at all, if you                 | 10:04:57 |\n| 11 | know?                                                   | 10:05:00 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o -- he is         | 10:05:00 |\n| 13 | the son of Mr. H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k.                       | 10:05:07 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>And that is H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k; correct?           | 10:05:23 |\n| 15 | A.<br>You are right, sir.                               | 10:05:29 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>So for ease of understanding for everyone         | 10:05:30 |\n| 17 | who is reading this transcript, can we please refer     | 10:05:33 |\n| 18 | to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's son as Mileson?<br>Is that okay    | 10:05:36 |\n| 19 | with you?                                               | 10:05:45 |\n| 20 | A.<br>No, sir.                                          | 10:05:46 |\n| 21 | I will prefer to stay with Mr. Qiang Guo.               | 10:05:47 |\n| 22 | The reason because, again, English is not my mother     | 10:05:51 |\n| 23 | language.<br>I do not want to pronounce something which | 10:05:54 |\n| 24 | was -- which could be misunderstood by everyone here,   | 10:05:58 |\n| 25 | if I may.                                               | 10:06:03 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 39  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 65 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>No problem at all.                                | 10:06:04 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Thank you.                                        | 10:06:08 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>So we'll stick with Qiang Guo.                    | 10:06:09 |\n| 4  | A.<br>Thank you.                                        | 10:06:14 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And you just testified that he is the    | 10:06:14 |\n| 6  | son of Ho Wan Kwok, the debtor; right?                  | 10:06:17 |\n| 7  | A.<br>You are right, sir.<br>Yes.                       | 10:06:21 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>So my question is was Qiang Guo living in         | 10:06:22 |\n| 9  | New York when you started working at Golden Spring      | 10:06:26 |\n| 10 | (New York)?                                             | 10:06:28 |\n| 11 | A.<br>What do you mean, living in New York, sir?        | 10:06:30 |\n| 12 | Like, I mean, I don't understand.<br>Travel in there.   | 10:06:35 |\n| 13 | I met him in there, yes.<br>I don't understand what you | 10:06:38 |\n| 14 | mean, living in New York.                               | 10:06:42 |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sunny, perhaps you can help             | 10:06:45 |\n| 16 | me.<br>My question in English would be did              | 10:06:48 |\n| 17 | Mr. Qiang Guo live in New York at the time you          | 10:06:52 |\n| 18 | started working at Golden Spring (New York)?            | 10:06:56 |\n| 19 | Could you please translate that for me?                 | 10:06:59 |\n| 20 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Interprets question.)              | 10:07:36 |\n| 21 | THE WITNESS:<br>(Through the Interpreter)               | 10:07:36 |\n| 22 | I officially started working for Golden Spring          | 10:07:36 |\n| 23 | (New York) in 2018.<br>I don't recall whether or not    | 10:07:39 |\n| 24 | Mr. Qiang Guo was living in New York at the time.       | 10:07:41 |\n\n25 ///\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 66 of\n\n| 1  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                     | 10:07:46 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Did you see him in New York personally        | 10:07:46 |\n| 3  | around the time that you started working at         | 10:07:54 |\n| 4  | Golden Spring (New York)?                           | 10:07:57 |\n| 5  | A.<br>I don't recall.                               | 10:08:01 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Have you ever seen Mr. Qiang Guo personally   | 10:08:02 |\n| 7  | in New York?                                        | 10:08:10 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Yes, I did.                                   | 10:08:13 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>When was the last time?                       | 10:08:14 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I don't recall.                               | 10:08:18 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Within the last year?                         | 10:08:21 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I don't recall.                               | 10:08:25 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Within the last five years?                   | 10:08:26 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                          | 10:08:30 |\n| 15 | It was possible.                                    | 10:08:37 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok living in New York at     | 10:08:38 |\n| 17 | the time you started working for Golden Spring      | 10:08:47 |\n| 18 | (New York)?                                         | 10:08:49 |\n| 19 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>This is the same        | 10:08:51 |\n| 20 | issue.                                              | 10:08:53 |\n| 21 | I think -- Counsel, could you please explain        | 10:08:55 |\n| 22 | the relevance of this question to me.               | 10:08:56 |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Well, as you know,                  | 10:09:02 |\n| 24 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is the debtor, and it is certainly  | 10:09:03 |\n| 25 | with- -- within the scope of appropriate topics, in | 10:09:07 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 41  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 67 of 280\n\n| 1  | our view, for me to explore Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's         | 10:09:13 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | relationship to Golden Spring (New York), which is    | 10:09:17 |\n| 3  | his putative lender on this DIP loan; so I'm starting | 10:09:20 |\n| 4  | with the question about where Mr. Kwok lived at the   | 10:09:29 |\n| 5  | time the witness started working at Golden Spring     | 10:09:32 |\n| 6  | (New York).<br>That is the relevance.                 | 10:09:34 |\n| 7  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:09:35 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, what is the answer?                   | 10:09:35 |\n| 9  | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'm going to instruct the               | 10:09:37 |\n| 10 | witness not to answer this question.<br>This is --    | 10:09:38 |\n| 11 | there is no relevance that I can see to disclosing    | 10:09:42 |\n| 12 | the whereabouts and the present location of parties   | 10:09:44 |\n| 13 | here to a DIP loan funding.<br>This is just -- it is  | 10:09:48 |\n| 14 | just harassment.                                      | 10:09:53 |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH:<br>So you are -- you are                 | 10:09:57 |\n| 16 | instructing the witness not to answer, Scott?         | 10:09:58 |\n| 17 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes, I am.                              | 10:10:01 |\n| 18 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.                                 | 10:10:03 |\n| 19 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:10:03 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, when you started working at           | 10:10:04 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring (New York), what was your title?        | 10:10:06 |\n| 22 | A.<br>I was -- I am -- I was the -- the president,    | 10:10:11 |\n| 23 | secretary, I believe treasurer also, and director.    | 10:10:16 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>So you said, to make sure I have this right:    | 10:10:23 |\n| 25 | President, secretary, treasurer, and director; is     | 10:10:27 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 42  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 68 of\n\n| 1  | that correct? |                                                   | 10:10:31 |\n|----|---------------|---------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.            | Correct.                                          | 10:10:32 |\n| 3  | Q.            | I'm going to show you -- let's call this          | 10:10:32 |\n| 4  | number three. |                                                   | 10:10:41 |\n| 5  |               | (Deposition Exhibit Number 3                      | 10:10:43 |\n| 6  |               | was marked for identification.)                   | 10:10:48 |\n| 7  |               | MR. HARBACH:<br>Wait for it to get populated.     | 10:10:48 |\n| 8  |               | I'm told it should be there.<br>I have it.        | 10:11:27 |\n| 9  |               | BY MR. HARBACH:                                   | 10:11:30 |\n| 10 | Q.            | Ms. Wang, do you have number three?               | 10:11:30 |\n| 11 | A.            | Yes, sir.                                         | 10:11:34 |\n| 12 |               | I have it.                                        | 10:11:35 |\n| 13 | Q.            | Okay.<br>Super.                                   | 10:11:36 |\n| 14 |               | Open that -- that one up.                         | 10:11:37 |\n| 15 | A.            | (Witness complies.)                               | 10:11:39 |\n| 16 | Q.            | And tell me if you recognize this document.       | 10:11:42 |\n| 17 | A.            | Yes.                                              | 10:11:46 |\n| 18 | Q.            | Okay.<br>This is a document that you helped       | 10:11:50 |\n| 19 |               | create and submitted with an affidavit, isn't it? | 10:11:57 |\n| 20 | A.            | What do you mean I created, sir?                  | 10:12:01 |\n| 21 | Q.            | Well, let me withdraw that question.              | 10:12:08 |\n| 22 |               | You said that you recognized this document.       | 10:12:11 |\n| 23 |               | What is it?                                       | 10:12:13 |\n| 24 | A.            | It is a director and officer register.            | 10:12:14 |\n| 25 | Q.            | For Golden Spring (New York) Limited?             | 10:12:19 |\n|    |               |                                                   | Page 43  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 69 of\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 10:12:23 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Did you create this document?                  | 10:12:24 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>It should be prepared by -- | 10:12:26 |\n| 4  | I don't recall.                                      | 10:12:37 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Give me just one moment, please.               | 10:12:37 |\n| 6  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sorry for the -- the delay,          | 10:13:55 |\n| 7  | y'all, but hopefully I've just saved us a little     | 10:13:58 |\n| 8  | time.                                                | 10:14:02 |\n| 9  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 10:14:04 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>I'm going to ask you to put aside Exhibit 3,   | 10:14:05 |\n| 11 | and I'll come back to that a little later.           | 10:14:08 |\n| 12 | Okay?                                                | 10:14:12 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 10:14:12 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>When -- when you were working for              | 10:14:13 |\n| 15 | Golden Spring (Hong Kong), did you have any titles?  | 10:14:28 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>Too many years ago.         | 10:14:35 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>What were your duties at Golden Spring         | 10:14:42 |\n| 18 | (Hong Kong)?                                         | 10:14:45 |\n| 19 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>This -- can you          | 10:14:47 |\n| 20 | please point to which topic on 30(b)(6) that         | 10:14:50 |\n| 21 | a corporate witness of Golden Spring (New York) that | 10:14:55 |\n| 22 | this would -- this would be appropriate to?          | 10:14:59 |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Again, I'm exploring her             | 10:15:01 |\n| 24 | competency to testify as a representative of         | 10:15:04 |\n| 25 | Golden Spring (New York) by reference to her prior   | 10:15:07 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 44  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 70 of 280\n\n| 1  | experience and its relationship to her current        | 10:15:10 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | titles.                                               | 10:15:13 |\n| 3  | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'll let the objection stand.           | 10:15:16 |\n| 4  | But you can answer the question.                      | 10:15:19 |\n| 5  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:15:22 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>The question, Ms. Wang, was what were your      | 10:15:23 |\n| 7  | duties at Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?                  | 10:15:25 |\n| 8  | A.<br>I took instruction from the owner of            | 10:15:28 |\n| 9  | company, Mr. Qiang Guo, and worked for him.           | 10:15:34 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Did you -- doing what?                          | 10:15:42 |\n| 11 | A.<br>Doing the task that he request me to do.        | 10:15:46 |\n| 12 | I don't recall.<br>It is too many years ago.          | 10:15:52 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>You -- you -- you don't recall what your        | 10:15:54 |\n| 14 | tasks were?                                           | 10:15:56 |\n| 15 | A.<br>It is pretty diversified.                       | 10:15:58 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you recall whether when you were    | 10:16:04 |\n| 17 | working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) you did any     | 10:16:15 |\n| 18 | work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?                             | 10:16:20 |\n| 19 | A.<br>I'm sorry.                                      | 10:16:21 |\n| 20 | Sir, what is your question?                           | 10:16:22 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>When you were working for Golden Spring         | 10:16:24 |\n| 22 | Hong Kong, did you do any work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?   | 10:16:30 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 10:16:32 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Who appointed you to be president,              | 10:16:33 |\n| 25 | secretary, treasurer, and a director of Golden Spring | 10:16:45 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 45  |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 71 of\n\n280\n\n1 (New York) Limited? 10:16:51\n\n2 A. I was appointed by Mr. Qiang Guo. 10:16:52\n\n3 Q. When he appointed you to those positions, 10:16:56\n\n4 what did he tell you your duties would be? 10:17:00\n\n| 5  | A.<br>I was appointed, and he -- he requested me      | 10:17:03 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 6  | to operate -- to run Golden Spring (New York), his    | 10:17:14 |\n| 7  | company, as general.                                  | 10:17:19 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Tell me what you mean by as general.            | 10:17:21 |\n| 9  | A.<br>I mean any task, assignment as the owner of     | 10:17:25 |\n| 10 | company, himself, he requested to do that I will work | 10:17:34 |\n| 11 | for him.                                              | 10:17:39 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>When you assumed the role of president,         | 10:17:40 |\n| 13 | secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring   | 10:17:56 |\n| 14 | (New York), did you have any financial professional   | 10:18:02 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\n| 16 | A.<br>What do you mean, financial professional | 10:18:07 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 17 | knowledge, sir?                                | 10:18:14 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Let's go back to Exhibit 1.              | 10:18:15 |\n\n15 knowledge? 10:18:05\n\n| 19 | A. | (Witness complies.)                    | 10:18:18 |\n|----|----|----------------------------------------|----------|\n| 20 | Q. | Correction.<br>Sorry.                  | 10:18:24 |\n| 21 |    | Exhibit 2.                             | 10:18:27 |\n| 22 | A. | (Witness complies.)                    | 10:18:28 |\n| 23 | Q. | Page forty-seven.                      | 10:18:35 |\n| 24 | A. | (Witness complies.)                    | 10:18:39 |\n| 25 | Q. | Actually, you might need to look a bit | 10:18:51 |\n|    |    |                                        |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 72 of 280\n\n| 1  | earlier on to forty-six.                              | 10:18:55 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Tell me when you are there.                           | 10:18:59 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I am on page forty-six.                         | 10:19:01 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>At the bottom of page forty-six there  | 10:19:03 |\n| 5  | is an answer that begins -- and it was in response to | 10:19:07 |\n| 6  | a question about some exhibit you were being shown.   | 10:19:11 |\n| 7  | In the course of your answer, which goes on to page   | 10:19:15 |\n| 8  | forty-seven, you say, among other things:             | 10:19:19 |\n| 9  | \"ANSWER:<br>I am administrator to                     | 10:19:22 |\n| 10 | Golden Spring.<br>This is not my choice because       | 10:19:24 |\n| 11 | Chinese Communist party, they kidnap almost           | 10:19:27 |\n| 12 | all my colleague, between me and the company;         | 10:19:32 |\n| 13 | so my background, I do not have financial             | 10:19:35 |\n| 14 | professional knowledge.<br>I do not have              | 10:19:38 |\n| 15 | American real estate professional knowledge.\"         | 10:19:41 |\n| 16 | And your answer goes on.                              | 10:19:44 |\n| 17 | But I have just read the two sentences that           | 10:19:47 |\n| 18 | I am interested in for my question because my         | 10:19:49 |\n| 19 | question to you was when you assumed the roles of     | 10:19:52 |\n| 20 | president, secretary, treasurer, and director of      | 10:19:55 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring (New York) Limited, did you have any    | 10:20:00 |\n| 22 | financial professional knowledge?                     | 10:20:04 |\n| 23 | What is the answer?                                   | 10:20:10 |\n| 24 | A.<br>These deposition happened in which year,        | 10:20:11 |\n| 25 | sir?<br>2018 or '19?                                  | 10:20:17 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 47  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 73 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>The transcript that I just read from was not     | 10:20:21 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | a deposition.<br>It was testimony in court, and it was | 10:20:23 |\n| 3  | in May of 2019.                                        | 10:20:28 |\n| 4  | A.<br>Okay.                                            | 10:20:32 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>But these -- these appear to have been your      | 10:20:32 |\n| 6  | words, and so that is why I asked the question.        | 10:20:35 |\n| 7  | A.<br>So back to 2019, my testifying -- my             | 10:20:39 |\n| 8  | testimony was correct.<br>I mean, the entire --        | 10:20:44 |\n| 9  | Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business, including his      | 10:20:50 |\n| 10 | employees, were all persecuted.<br>They are either     | 10:20:53 |\n| 11 | arrested, kidnapped, or disappeared.<br>I was one of   | 10:21:00 |\n| 12 | the survivor by then.<br>That was correct.             | 10:21:04 |\n| 13 | And then when I testified back to 2019,                | 10:21:07 |\n| 14 | I said I don't have -- that was -- I am humble;        | 10:21:10 |\n| 15 | right?<br>So that was my testimony -- test- --         | 10:21:18 |\n| 16 | testimony.<br>And then now in 2022, I mean, I could    | 10:21:21 |\n| 17 | learn lots in three years; right?                      | 10:21:26 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Of course.                                       | 10:21:29 |\n| 19 | A.<br>So --                                            | 10:21:29 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Of course.                                       | 10:21:29 |\n| 21 | A.<br>-- that doesn't mean I don't have anything       | 10:21:29 |\n| 22 | for now --                                             | 10:21:31 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Of course.                                       | 10:21:32 |\n| 24 | A.<br>-- to testify in this bankruptcy, you know,      | 10:21:32 |\n| 25 | deposition.                                            | 10:21:35 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 48  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 74 of\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>I understand that -- that three years  | 10:21:35 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | have passed.<br>My question isn't about today.        | 10:21:38 |\n| 3  | My question is about the day when you were            | 10:21:43 |\n| 4  | appointed to be president, secretary, treasurer, and  | 10:21:47 |\n| 5  | director of Golden Spring (New York).<br>I'm asking   | 10:21:53 |\n| 6  | about that day.                                       | 10:21:56 |\n| 7  | And my question is as of that day, did you            | 10:21:59 |\n| 8  | have any financial professional knowledge?            | 10:22:03 |\n| 9  | A.<br>What kind of financial professional             | 10:22:08 |\n| 10 | knowledge you are looking for back to three years     | 10:22:13 |\n| 11 | ago, sir?                                             | 10:22:15 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>They were your words, Ms. Wang.<br>You said,    | 10:22:16 |\n| 13 | I do not have financial professional knowledge.       | 10:22:21 |\n| 14 | I don't know what you meant.<br>That would be a good  | 10:22:26 |\n| 15 | question, but it is what you said; so that is why     | 10:22:28 |\n| 16 | I used those words in asking you.<br>It is a simple   | 10:22:33 |\n| 17 | question.                                             | 10:22:36 |\n| 18 | All I'm asking is at the time you assumed             | 10:22:38 |\n| 19 | all of those titles at Golden Spring (New York), did  | 10:22:41 |\n| 20 | you have any financial professional knowledge?<br>Yes | 10:22:44 |\n| 21 | or no?                                                | 10:22:49 |\n| 22 | A.<br>When I say I didn't -- when I said I don't      | 10:22:54 |\n| 23 | have, as I repeat again, that is our culture -- our   | 10:22:58 |\n| 24 | culture, Chinese culture.<br>I was humble to say      | 10:23:05 |\n| 25 | I don't have professional knowledge.                  | 10:23:09 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 49  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 75 of\n\n280\n\n1 Q. I understand. 10:23:11\n\n| 2  | A.<br>English is not my mother language.<br>I do not   | 10:23:12 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 3  | mean that I know nothing about financial, if that is   | 10:23:15 |\n| 4  | the answer you are looking for, sir.                   | 10:23:20 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>All I'm looking for is the truth, first of       | 10:23:22 |\n| 6  | all.                                                   | 10:23:25 |\n| 7  | Second, I am not asking you to be humble or            | 10:23:26 |\n| 8  | proud.<br>I'm just asking you to be honest.            | 10:23:31 |\n| 9  | A.<br>I am.                                            | 10:23:34 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>So similarly, I mean, you were under oath        | 10:23:34 |\n| 11 | when you testified in court, and I think the           | 10:23:38 |\n| 12 | expectation would have been that you be honest then    | 10:23:40 |\n| 13 | as well.                                               | 10:23:43 |\n| 14 | A.<br>I was.                                           | 10:23:44 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So I wasn't there that day.<br>All      | 10:23:45 |\n| 16 | I have is the transcript.<br>And I'm just being -- I'm | 10:23:48 |\n| 17 | being honest with you.<br>That is the reason for my    | 10:23:52 |\n| 18 | question is because I saw that you said that you       | 10:23:54 |\n| 19 | don't have any financial professional knowledge.       | 10:23:58 |\n| 20 | So I suppose the question is if you were               | 10:24:01 |\n| 21 | just being humble back in 2019, do you mean to say     | 10:24:05 |\n| 22 | that you, in fact, did have financial professional     | 10:24:10 |\n| 23 | knowledge when you were appointed to all of those      | 10:24:14 |\n| 24 | positions at Golden Spring?<br>Is that what you were   | 10:24:16 |\n|    |                                                        |          |\n| 25 | trying to say?                                         | 10:24:20 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 76 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I am not trying to say anything.<br>My          | 10:24:20 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | testimony -- back to 2019, that was my testimony, and | 10:24:23 |\n| 3  | that -- I stay with that.<br>That is a -- true and    | 10:24:27 |\n| 4  | accurate information, sir.<br>And regarding right now | 10:24:31 |\n| 5  | what are you looking for after three years, I do not  | 10:24:34 |\n| 6  | understand, and I will do my best to help you.        | 10:24:38 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Same question about the next sentence  | 10:24:40 |\n| 8  | on the transcript, which says:                        | 10:24:44 |\n| 9  | \"I do not have American real estate                   | 10:24:46 |\n| 10 | professional knowledge.\"                              | 10:24:49 |\n| 11 | Was that true when you said those words in            | 10:24:50 |\n| 12 | 2019?                                                 | 10:24:53 |\n| 13 | A.<br>It is correct.<br>I am not real -- realtor.     | 10:24:55 |\n| 14 | I am not a licensed realtor; right?<br>That was       | 10:25:00 |\n| 15 | correct.                                              | 10:25:03 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So it is correct that at least as of   | 10:25:06 |\n| 17 | May of 2019 you did not have American real estate     | 10:25:09 |\n| 18 | professional knowledge --                             | 10:25:14 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 10:25:15 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>-- correct?                                     | 10:25:16 |\n| 21 | A.<br>I don't have a license at all by then.          | 10:25:16 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Next question.                                  | 10:25:19 |\n| 23 | Is it true that in your capacity as                   | 10:25:29 |\n| 24 | president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited you     | 10:25:36 |\n| 25 | serve as an administrator for the interests of        | 10:25:42 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 51  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 77 of 280\n\n| 1  | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family?                       | 10:25:46 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>Calls for a legal         | 10:25:51 |\n| 3  | conclusion.                                           | 10:25:52 |\n| 4  | You can answer that.                                  | 10:25:53 |\n| 5  | THE WITNESS:<br>I need interpreter help me.           | 10:25:56 |\n| 6  | I don't understand your question, sir.                | 10:25:59 |\n| 7  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>But before we -- before      | 10:26:01 |\n| 8  | we go there -- actually, let -- let's -- Sunny, if    | 10:26:03 |\n| 9  | you don't mind, I will ask the question again.<br>And | 10:26:09 |\n| 10 | I'm -- I'm sorry to refer to you by your first name.  | 10:26:12 |\n| 11 | That is unprofessional.<br>Sorry.<br>Ms. Johnston.    | 10:26:15 |\n| 12 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:26:15 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, the question is in your capacity      | 10:26:20 |\n| 14 | as president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,     | 10:26:23 |\n| 15 | isn't it true that you serve as an administrator for  | 10:26:30 |\n| 16 | the interests of Mr. Kwok -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his  | 10:26:35 |\n| 17 | family?                                               | 10:26:40 |\n| 18 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'll repeat the objection.              | 10:26:43 |\n| 19 | You can answer the question.                          | 10:26:46 |\n| 20 | MR. HARBACH:<br>(Interprets question.)                | 10:27:15 |\n| 21 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER:<br>The check                   | 10:27:15 |\n| 22 | interpreter heard Mr. Kwok and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and    | 10:27:16 |\n| 23 | his family.                                           | 10:27:20 |\n| 24 | MR. HARBACH:<br>That is correct.                      | 10:27:21 |\n| 25 | That was the question.                                | 10:27:22 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 52  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 78 of\n\n1 THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes. 10:27:24\n\n2 But not Wengui Guo; right? 10:27:25\n\n3 MR. HARBACH: That -- 10:27:29\n\n4 THE INTERPRETER: That is his Mandarin name, 10:27:29\n\n5 Ho Wan Kwok. The Mandarin is Wengui Guo. 10:27:36\n\n6 THE CHECK INTERPRETER: But, I mean, the 10:27:42\n\n7 counsel said Ho Wan Kwok. 10:27:43 8 MR. HARBACH: Yes. 10:27:45\n\n| 9  | The reason that counsel said Ho Wan Kwok was        | 10:27:45 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 10 | because the witness said that is how she knows the  | 10:27:48 |\n| 11 | debtor.<br>I asked her earlier whether she knew the | 10:27:51 |\n| 12 | name Wengui Guo, and she said she knows him as      | 10:27:56 |\n| 13 | Ho Wan Kwok; so that is why I used that name.       | 10:28:01 |\n| 14 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>Yes.                            | 10:28:03 |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH:<br>But we can clear this -- we         | 10:28:05 |\n| 16 | can clear this up now, Ms. Wilkinson.               | 10:28:06 |\n|    |                                                     |          |\n\n17 THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Okay. 10:28:08 18 BY MR. HARBACH: 10:28:08 19 Q. Ms. Wang, what name would you prefer to use 10:28:08 20 going forward to refer to Mr. Qiang Guo's father? 10:28:12 21 A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok. 10:28:18 22 Q. Very good. 10:28:19 23 A. That is the debtor; right? That is the 10:28:20 24 debtor's name. 10:28:21 25 Am I right. 10:28:23\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 79 of\n\n1 Q. You are right. That is correct. 10:28:24\n\n2 A. Let's go with it, yeah. Uh-huh. 10:28:25\n\n3 Q. So would you like Ms. Johnston to repeat the 10:28:27\n\n4 question in Chinese for you, ma'am? 10:28:30\n\n5 A. Yes, please. 10:28:32\n\n6 Q. Okay. 10:28:34\n\n7 THE INTERPRETER: Mr. Harbach, can you just 10:28:37\n\n8 repeat the question one more time, please. 10:28:39\n\n9 MR. HARBACH: Sure. No problem. 10:28:42\n\n13 it instead of saying the Mandarin name. 10:28:54\n\n280\n\n| 10 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>Just so you know, the             | 10:28:46 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 11 | interpreter does not speak Cantonese; so I will just  | 10:28:48 |\n| 12 | re- -- I will just say the name the way you pronounce | 10:28:53 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\n14 MR. HARBACH: Okay. That -- that's fine. 10:28:57 15 And, obviously, I speak neither; so I will rely on 10:28:59 16 you all. 10:29:02 17 BY MR. HARBACH: 10:29:03 18 Q. So here is the question. 10:29:03 19 In your capacity as president of 10:29:05 20 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, isn't it true that 10:29:07 21 you serve as an administrator for the interests of 10:29:12 22 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family? 10:29:18 23 MR. ROSEN: Objection. 10:29:23 24 You may answer. 10:29:25 25 THE WITNESS: (Through Interpreter) Well, 10:29:59\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 80 of 280\n\n| 1  | first of all, I don't know what you meant by the word | 10:30:07 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | administrator.                                        | 10:30:10 |\n| 3  | And, second, I worked for Mr. Qiang Guo.              | 10:30:11 |\n| 4  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Is that the end of the answer,        | 10:30:22 |\n| 5  | Ms. Johnston?                                         | 10:30:23 |\n| 6  | THE INTERPRETER:<br>Yes, it was.                      | 10:30:25 |\n| 7  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>Thank you.                   | 10:30:27 |\n| 8  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:30:28 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Let's take a look now at Exhibit 4.             | 10:30:28 |\n| 10 | (Deposition Exhibit Number 4                          | 10:30:31 |\n| 11 | was marked for identification.)                       | 10:30:35 |\n| 12 | THE WITNESS:<br>(Witness complies.)                   | 10:30:35 |\n| 13 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:30:57 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>I have got it, Ms. Wang.<br>I hope you | 10:30:57 |\n| 15 | do too.                                               | 10:31:00 |\n| 16 | A.<br>(In English)<br>Yes.                            | 10:31:01 |\n| 17 | I am here.                                            | 10:31:03 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Very good.                                      | 10:31:04 |\n| 19 | Open up Exhibit 4, please.                            | 10:31:05 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 10:31:07 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>And the first thing I want to do is go to       | 10:31:07 |\n| 22 | the very last page.                                   | 10:31:10 |\n| 23 | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                             | 10:31:12 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Are you there?                                  | 10:31:14 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 10:31:15 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 55  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 81 of\n\n|  | 280 |  |\n|--|-----|--|\n|  |     |  |\n\n| 1  | Q.             | Is that your signature on the top right of     | 10:31:15 |\n|----|----------------|------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Exhibit 4?     |                                                | 10:31:19 |\n| 3  | A.             | Sorry, sir.                                    | 10:31:25 |\n| 4  |                | You mean Exhibit 4; right?                     | 10:31:26 |\n| 5  | Q.             | Yes, sir -- or excuse me.<br>Yes, ma'am.       | 10:31:28 |\n| 6  | A.             | Okay.<br>I opened the wrong one.               | 10:31:33 |\n| 7  | Q.             | Okay.                                          | 10:31:35 |\n| 8  | A.             | So let me go back.                             | 10:31:35 |\n| 9  |                | Exhibit 4, you mean the director and officer   | 10:31:37 |\n| 10 | register?      |                                                | 10:31:40 |\n| 11 | Q.             | No.<br>No.<br>No.                              | 10:31:41 |\n| 12 | A.             | Okay.<br>That's --                             | 10:31:44 |\n| 13 | Q.             | This is the one that says exhibit, and then    | 10:31:44 |\n| 14 |                | it has the number next to it, four.            | 10:31:47 |\n| 15 | A.             | Okay.                                          | 10:31:50 |\n| 16 | Q.             | So when you open that up, the first page       | 10:31:51 |\n| 17 |                | says affidavit of Yan Ping Wang.               | 10:31:54 |\n| 18 |                | Let me know if you have the right document.    | 10:31:58 |\n| 19 | A.             | Yes.                                           | 10:32:01 |\n| 20 | Q.             | Good.                                          | 10:32:01 |\n| 21 |                | Now go to the last page of it, please.<br>That | 10:32:02 |\n| 22 | is page three. |                                                | 10:32:05 |\n| 23 | A.             | (Witness complies.)                            | 10:32:06 |\n| 24 |                | Yes.                                           | 10:32:06 |\n| 25 | Q.             | My question to you is is that signature on     | 10:32:07 |\n|    |                |                                                | Page 56  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 82 of\n\n|   | 280                                                  |          |  |  |  |\n|---|------------------------------------------------------|----------|--|--|--|\n| 1 | the top right-hand corner of page three of Exhibit 4 | 10:32:12 |  |  |  |\n| 2 | yours?                                               | 10:32:16 |  |  |  |\n\n| 2  | yours? |                                                       | 10:32:16 |\n|----|--------|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 3  | A.     | Yes.                                                  | 10:32:17 |\n| 4  | Q.     | Okay.<br>Now let's go back to page one.               | 10:32:18 |\n| 5  | A.     | (Witness complies.)                                   | 10:32:21 |\n| 6  | Q.     | And you can see that this is an affidavit             | 10:32:21 |\n| 7  |        | that you signed and that was filed in the             | 10:32:26 |\n| 8  |        | Supreme Court of the State of New York on May 16th of | 10:32:28 |\n| 9  | 2018.  |                                                       | 10:32:32 |\n| 10 |        | Do you see that?                                      | 10:32:34 |\n| 11 | A.     | Yes.                                                  | 10:32:35 |\n| 12 | Q.     | Okay.<br>Now, I also note that on page                | 10:32:40 |\n| 13 |        | three -- sorry to keep jerking you around.            | 10:32:43 |\n| 14 |        | Could you please go to page three.                    | 10:32:47 |\n| 15 | A.     | The last page; right?                                 | 10:32:50 |\n| 16 | Q.     | Yes, ma'am.                                           | 10:32:54 |\n| 17 | A.     | (Witness complies.)                                   | 10:32:55 |\n| 18 |        | Yes.                                                  | 10:32:55 |\n| 19 |        | I am here.                                            | 10:32:56 |\n| 20 | Q.     | You will see above the notary public's                | 10:32:56 |\n| 21 |        | signature that it indicates that it was sworn on      | 10:32:59 |\n| 22 |        | May 15th of 2018.                                     | 10:33:02 |\n| 23 |        | Do you see that there?                                | 10:33:04 |\n| 24 | A.     | Yes.                                                  | 10:33:05 |\n| 25 | Q.     | Okay.<br>Now go back to page one for me.              | 10:33:08 |\n|    |        |                                                       | Page 57  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 83 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                             | 10:33:11 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Tell me when you are there.                     | 10:33:14 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 10:33:17 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>The very first sentence of your dep- --         | 10:33:18 |\n| 5  | excuse me.<br>Of this affidavit says:                 | 10:33:23 |\n| 6  | \"I am the president of Golden Spring                  | 10:33:26 |\n| 7  | (New York) Limited, and in that capacity              | 10:33:28 |\n| 8  | serve as an administrator for the interests           | 10:33:32 |\n| 9  | of the defendant sued herein as Kwok Ho               | 10:33:35 |\n| 10 | Wan\" --                                               | 10:33:35 |\n| 11 | And then there follows several akas.                  | 10:33:42 |\n| 12 | -- \"and his family,\" period.                          | 10:33:46 |\n| 13 | Do you see that sentence?                             | 10:33:48 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 10:33:52 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>So I'll ask you to tell me what being an        | 10:33:52 |\n| 16 | administrator of the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and | 10:34:00 |\n| 17 | his family means, because they are your words.        | 10:34:12 |\n| 18 | A.<br>This is drafted by the attorneys also; so in    | 10:34:16 |\n| 19 | my understanding, an administrator, these words --    | 10:34:20 |\n| 20 | as, again, I am not native speaker at all -- means    | 10:34:25 |\n| 21 | that I work for Golden Spring and take instruction    | 10:34:30 |\n| 22 | from owner of Golden Spring to work out the           | 10:34:32 |\n| 23 | assignment and task Golden Spring request me to do is | 10:34:39 |\n| 24 | what I mean in here.                                  | 10:34:43 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\n25 Q. How many affidavits do you think you have 10:34:44\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 84 of\n\n|  | 280 |  |\n|--|-----|--|\n|  |     |  |\n|  |     |  |\n\n| 1  | signed in your lifetime?                              | 10:34:48 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 10:34:50 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>More than five?                                 | 10:34:52 |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 10:34:55 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>More than twenty-five?                          | 10:34:57 |\n| 6  | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 10:34:59 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Maybe more than fifty?                          | 10:35:01 |\n| 8  | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 10:35:04 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Do you know what -- what an affidavit is?       | 10:35:08 |\n| 10 | A.<br>What do you mean, do I know what affidavit      | 10:35:12 |\n| 11 | is?                                                   | 10:35:17 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Do you know what an affidavit is?<br>Do you     | 10:35:18 |\n| 13 | know what the word means?                             | 10:35:20 |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't understand your question.               | 10:35:23 |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Ms. Johnston, can you please          | 10:35:30 |\n| 16 | translate.                                            | 10:35:33 |\n| 17 | Do you know what an affidavit is?                     | 10:35:34 |\n| 18 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Interprets question.)            | 10:35:47 |\n| 19 | THE WITNESS:<br>So I don't understand your            | 10:35:47 |\n| 20 | question.<br>All I have done in that I work for       | 10:35:58 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring (New York) Limited.<br>I am not native  | 10:36:01 |\n| 22 | speaker.<br>I am definitely not legal person either;  | 10:36:01 |\n| 23 | right?                                                | 10:36:01 |\n| 24 | So like, I just to be here, and then what             | 10:36:06 |\n| 25 | being before there to tell the legal all the truthful | 10:36:07 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 85 of\n\n| 1  | information as best of my capacity and as best of my  | 10:36:11 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | knowledge --                                          | 10:36:15 |\n| 3  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 10:36:16 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 10:36:16 |\n| 5  | A.<br>-- is what I can say.                           | 10:36:16 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 10:36:18 |\n| 7  | A.<br>I don't know what you are looking for.          | 10:36:18 |\n| 8  | I mean, if you are looking for words in the           | 10:36:20 |\n| 9  | dictionary, I don't know what you are looking for.    | 10:36:22 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>I'm asking you if you know what an affidavit    | 10:36:24 |\n| 11 | is.                                                   | 10:36:27 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Affidavit is a legal paperwork.                 | 10:36:28 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And do you understand that an          | 10:36:30 |\n| 14 | affidavit is a piece of legal paperwork where         | 10:36:34 |\n| 15 | a person provides testimony that is sworn under oath? | 10:36:38 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 10:36:46 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And you told me a moment ago you --    | 10:36:47 |\n| 18 | actually, I want to be fair.                          | 10:36:51 |\n| 19 | You don't -- you don't know how many                  | 10:36:54 |\n| 20 | affidavits you may have done in the past; is that     | 10:36:56 |\n| 21 | correct?                                              | 10:37:01 |\n| 22 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>Like, why should I recall    | 10:37:02 |\n| 23 | how many of them?<br>I mean --                        | 10:37:08 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>I'm not -- I'm not suggesting --                | 10:37:10 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I don't work in a law firm; right?              | 10:37:12 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 60  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 86 of\n\n280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>I'm not --                                       | 10:37:14 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>So why should I recall?                          | 10:37:14 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>I'm not suggesting whether you should or you     | 10:37:16 |\n| 4  | shouldn't.<br>All I'm asking is whether you know how   | 10:37:19 |\n| 5  | many affidavits you have prepared in your life.        | 10:37:23 |\n| 6  | And I understood your answer to be that you            | 10:37:26 |\n| 7  | do not know; is that right?                            | 10:37:29 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Sir, now you are asking in my life.<br>I don't   | 10:37:31 |\n| 9  | recall.<br>That is my answer.                          | 10:37:36 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>That is fine.<br>That is all I'm        | 10:37:38 |\n| 11 | asking.                                                | 10:37:41 |\n| 12 | You have told me that you understand an                | 10:37:43 |\n| 13 | affidavit to be a legal document where a person        | 10:37:46 |\n| 14 | provides testimony that is sworn under oath; is that   | 10:37:51 |\n| 15 | right?                                                 | 10:37:55 |\n| 16 | A.<br>The sentence which you read me through, this     | 10:37:58 |\n| 17 | was I signed back to 2018.<br>And then now as          | 10:38:01 |\n| 18 | April 2020 [sic] of course I couldn't remember that,   | 10:38:08 |\n| 19 | like, four years ago almost.                           | 10:38:15 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>But --                                           | 10:38:17 |\n| 21 | A.<br>But I do know that that is a legal               | 10:38:17 |\n| 22 | paperwork.<br>I gave all my truthful and honest        | 10:38:19 |\n| 23 | information in that paperwork.<br>This I am testifying | 10:38:22 |\n| 24 | right now.                                             | 10:38:25 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so when you signed this affidavit   | 10:38:26 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 61  |\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions 866 299-5127\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 87 of 280\n\n| 1  | in May of 2018, it was truthful when you signed it;   | 10:38:29 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | is that correct?                                      | 10:38:39 |\n| 3  | A.<br>When I signed and I gave all my truthful        | 10:38:41 |\n| 4  | information.                                          | 10:38:47 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Was this -- this affidavit that is Exhibit 4    | 10:38:49 |\n| 6  | that we're looking at, was it true when you signed it | 10:38:53 |\n| 7  | and swore to it?                                      | 10:38:58 |\n| 8  | A.<br>I signed affidavit back to 2018 of this         | 10:39:03 |\n| 9  | one.<br>That is my best and truthful knowledge and    | 10:39:07 |\n| 10 | information I gave.                                   | 10:39:12 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Is that a \"yes\"?                                | 10:39:14 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I answered your question, sir, already.         | 10:39:17 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Well, I'm going to ask it one more time.        | 10:39:20 |\n| 14 | I think you may have, but I want to ask it one more   | 10:39:24 |\n| 15 | time just to make sure we are clear.                  | 10:39:28 |\n| 16 | Was this affidavit -- that is, Exhibit 4 --           | 10:39:30 |\n| 17 | true at the time that you signed it?                  | 10:39:32 |\n| 18 | A.<br>What do you mean, at the time when I signed     | 10:39:37 |\n| 19 | it?<br>I mean, I signed it as true back in 2018.      | 10:39:46 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Right.                                          | 10:39:51 |\n| 21 | And -- and here's the -- here's the problem.          | 10:39:51 |\n| 22 | Just a few minutes ago, when I asked you about the    | 10:39:55 |\n| 23 | first sentence of Exhibit 4, you said something about | 10:39:59 |\n| 24 | this document being prepared by lawyers and that      | 10:40:02 |\n| 25 | English isn't your first language and that -- and so  | 10:40:06 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 88 of 280\n\n| 1  | that is why I'm asking these questions so that I can    | 10:40:12 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | understand whether what is written on the page here     | 10:40:15 |\n| 3  | is your truthful testimony or not.                      | 10:40:19 |\n| 4  | A.<br>So                                                | 10:40:27 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>All I can do is ask you -- let me finish my       | 10:40:29 |\n| 6  | question.                                               | 10:40:33 |\n| 7  | I don't know what is in your brain.<br>All              | 10:40:33 |\n| 8  | I can do is ask questions.<br>You have told me that you | 10:40:36 |\n| 9  | signed this document.<br>You have told me that you      | 10:40:39 |\n| 10 | understand it is an affidavit.<br>You have told me what | 10:40:41 |\n| 11 | you understand an affidavit to be.                      | 10:40:45 |\n| 12 | And so now all I'm asking you is whether                | 10:40:50 |\n| 13 | this particular affidavit was true when you signed      | 10:40:53 |\n| 14 | it.<br>That is a yes, no, I don't know, or I don't      | 10:40:59 |\n| 15 | remember question.                                      | 10:41:06 |\n| 16 | A.<br>This is several questions, sir.<br>I cannot       | 10:41:11 |\n| 17 | only answer one yes or one no.                          | 10:41:14 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Sure you can.<br>It is a single question.<br>The  | 10:41:17 |\n| 19 | answer can be either yes, it could be no, it could be   | 10:41:21 |\n| 20 | I don't know, or it could be I don't remember.          | 10:41:25 |\n| 21 | A.<br>The affidavit --                                  | 10:41:32 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Do you need me to ask the question one more       | 10:41:33 |\n| 23 | time?                                                   | 10:41:36 |\n| 24 | A.<br>The affidavit, which I signed back to 2018,       | 10:41:36 |\n| 25 | was drafted by attorney, yes.<br>My language -- English | 10:41:39 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 89 of 280\n\n| 1  | is not my native language, yes.<br>I signed affidavit   | 10:41:45 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | back to 2018.<br>That is a truthful information as best | 10:41:50 |\n| 3  | of my knowledge.<br>By then, when I signed my name in   | 10:41:53 |\n| 4  | there, yes.                                             | 10:41:57 |\n| 5  | I'm testifying right now to explain and let             | 10:41:58 |\n| 6  | you know all of those yes and no, that is my truthful   | 10:42:02 |\n| 7  | testimony by now, yes.<br>This is all my yes and no     | 10:42:06 |\n| 8  | answer, sir.                                            | 10:42:10 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>At the time that you signed Exhibit 4, did        | 10:42:11 |\n| 10 | you understand it?                                      | 10:42:14 |\n| 11 | A.<br>Understand what?                                  | 10:42:18 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Did you understand what you were signing?         | 10:42:19 |\n| 13 | A.<br>The affidavit.                                    | 10:42:22 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Were you able to read it and understand what      | 10:42:24 |\n| 15 | it said?                                                | 10:42:27 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't understand your question.<br>What --      | 10:42:31 |\n| 17 | you are asking my recollection back to 2018?            | 10:42:35 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>You --                                            | 10:42:38 |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                   | 10:42:38 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>You don't recall whether when you signed          | 10:42:38 |\n| 21 | this affidavit you understood what it said?             | 10:42:41 |\n| 22 | A.<br>It is four years ago, sir.<br>I don't recall      | 10:42:46 |\n| 23 | the details by then.                                    | 10:42:49 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Do you make a habit of signing affidavits         | 10:42:51 |\n| 25 | under oath when you don't understand what they say --   | 10:42:55 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 64  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 90 of 280\n\n| 1  | with- -- withdrawn.                                     | 10:42:58 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Scott, you don't have to                | 10:43:01 |\n| 3  | object.                                                 | 10:43:02 |\n| 4  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 10:43:03 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Do you recall whether this affidavit was          | 10:43:04 |\n| 6  | translated for you?                                     | 10:43:06 |\n| 7  | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>Again, like, it is three or    | 10:43:07 |\n| 8  | four years ago.<br>I don't recall.                      | 10:43:11 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>When was the last affidavit that you              | 10:43:16 |\n| 10 | executed, approximately?                                | 10:43:26 |\n| 11 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                                | 10:43:28 |\n| 12 | We -- we have really got to move on, David.             | 10:43:30 |\n| 13 | This is --                                              | 10:43:34 |\n| 14 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Listen, now, Scott.<br>This is          | 10:43:35 |\n| 15 | nothing personal, obviously.<br>I would love nothing    | 10:43:38 |\n| 16 | more than to move on, but I'm just trying to get the    | 10:43:40 |\n| 17 | witness to adopt what she swore to three years ago.     | 10:43:44 |\n| 18 | MR. ROSEN:<br>All right.<br>How is that relevant        | 10:43:51 |\n| 19 | to the 30(b)(6) deposition topics today?                | 10:43:53 |\n| 20 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Oh, because it is squarely              | 10:43:56 |\n| 21 | within what her job is as president of Golden Spring    | 10:43:58 |\n| 22 | (New York).<br>That is 100 percent within the scope of  | 10:44:02 |\n| 23 | what we're talking about here.<br>She has told us about | 10:44:05 |\n| 24 | all the titles that she has, and I'm exploring what     | 10:44:09 |\n| 25 | she does.<br>And she has filed an affidavit saying that | 10:44:13 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 91 of 280\n\n| 1  | her job is what we have read several times, and now     | 10:44:16 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | she doesn't want to answer that.<br>She doesn't want to | 10:44:20 |\n| 3  | own that; so I'm going to stop arguing, but it is       | 10:44:23 |\n| 4  | plainly relevant.<br>Plainly relevant.                  | 10:44:27 |\n| 5  | You can instruct her not to answer.<br>You can          | 10:44:30 |\n| 6  | instruct her not to answer any question that mentions   | 10:44:33 |\n| 7  | Ho Wan Kwok if you want.<br>But I'm going to stay right | 10:44:36 |\n| 8  | here until I understand what was in this witness'       | 10:44:39 |\n| 9  | head when she signed this affidavit.                    | 10:44:42 |\n| 10 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Well, I think you have -- you             | 10:44:44 |\n| 11 | have pretty much established on the record that what    | 10:44:46 |\n| 12 | you are going for has nothing to do with this DIP       | 10:44:50 |\n| 13 | loan.                                                   | 10:44:52 |\n| 14 | So I am going to instruct the witness not to            | 10:44:52 |\n| 15 | answer this question.                                   | 10:44:55 |\n| 16 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>I think we should take         | 10:44:56 |\n| 17 | a little break because, among other things, I need to   | 10:44:59 |\n| 18 | go to the restroom.                                     | 10:45:01 |\n| 19 | So can we please, Mr. Videographer, take ten            | 10:45:03 |\n| 20 | minutes.                                                | 10:45:06 |\n| 21 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are going off the               | 10:45:06 |\n| 22 | record.                                                 | 10:45:08 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n| 23 | The time is 10:45.                                      | 10:45:08 |\n| 24 | (Short recess taken.)                                   | 10:45:10 |\n| 25 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are back on the                 | 11:00:21 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 66  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 92 of 280\n\n record. 11:00:23 2 The time is 11:00 o'clock. 11:00:23 BY MR. HARBACH: 11:00:31 4 Q. Ms. Wang, before the break I was asking you 11:00:35 about Exhibit 4, which is an affidavit that you 11:00:37 signed in May of 2018. 11:00:43 7 MR. HARBACH: Scott, I confess, I do not 11:00:48 recall whether where we left off was with your 11:00:51 instructing the witness not to answer my question -- 11:00:54 any more questions about this. And let me -- and let 11:01:00 me just -- let me say before you answer that if you 11:01:04 let me answer one or two -- ask one or two more, I'll 11:01:07 move on. 11:01:13 14 MR. ROSEN: I appreciate that, and yeah. 11:01:14 Please -- I'll instruct the witness at this time to 11:01:18 answer the question. 11:01:22 17 MR. HARBACH: Okay. Thank you. 11:01:24 BY MR. HARBACH: 11:01:25 19 Q. So Ms. Wang, do you still have Exhibit 4 in 11:01:25 front of you? 11:01:30 21 A. Exhibit 4? Yes, sir. Yes. 11:01:32 22 Q. Okay. So again, reminding you that this 11:01:38 affidavit was signed in May 2018. 11:01:41 24 My question for you is is it true that in 11:01:45 May of 2018, as president of Golden Spring 11:01:51 Page 67\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 93 of 280\n\n| 1  | (New York), you served as an administrator for the   | 11:01:57 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and his family?         | 11:02:01 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 11:02:07 |\n| 4  | As the language read in my affidavit, yes.           | 11:02:13 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Do you recall what you meant by an             | 11:02:16 |\n| 6  | administrator for the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan   | 11:02:45 |\n| 7  | and his family?                                      | 11:02:49 |\n| 8  | A.<br>The language in this affidavit was drafted     | 11:02:51 |\n| 9  | by attorney, and, in my understanding,               | 11:02:57 |\n| 10 | Golden Spring -- as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, | 11:03:03 |\n| 11 | Golden Spring, like, pay Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, like, his  | 11:03:10 |\n| 12 | lifestyle and then et cetera; so that was my         | 11:03:17 |\n| 13 | understanding.                                       | 11:03:21 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>That was your understanding of your role?      | 11:03:22 |\n| 15 | Because that was what my question was about.         | 11:03:27 |\n| 16 | A.<br>My role as president of Golden Spring or       | 11:03:31 |\n| 17 | administrator?                                       | 11:03:35 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Well, you have stated that as president, you   | 11:03:36 |\n| 19 | served as an administrator of Mr. Kwok               | 11:03:42 |\n| 20 | Ho Wan's interests.                                  | 11:03:46 |\n| 21 | And so I'm asking about whether what you             | 11:03:50 |\n| 22 | just described was your role in May of 2018.         | 11:03:54 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I am the president of Golden Spring.<br>I took | 11:04:01 |\n| 24 | instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo and served as an      | 11:04:05 |\n| 25 | administrator -- administrator for his father.       | 11:04:09 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 68  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 94 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>And was that true from the moment you began     | 11:04:13 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | working at Golden Spring?                             | 11:04:17 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Oh, sir, the moment -- again, you are asking    | 11:04:21 |\n| 4  | the time; right?                                      | 11:04:25 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Well, I'm asking whether what you just          | 11:04:27 |\n| 6  | described as your duties as an administrator, was     | 11:04:31 |\n| 7  | that true from the beginning, from when you first     | 11:04:38 |\n| 8  | started working at Golden Spring (New York)?          | 11:04:40 |\n| 9  | A.<br>When I started working for Golden Spring        | 11:04:42 |\n| 10 | (New York), I did take instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo | 11:04:52 |\n| 11 | to -- to serve, as I said, as administrator for his   | 11:04:54 |\n| 12 | father.                                               | 11:05:00 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>And so that would have been in the spring of    | 11:05:00 |\n| 14 | 2018, when you started working for Golden Spring      | 11:05:04 |\n| 15 | (New York); is that right?                            | 11:05:07 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Correct, sir.                                   | 11:05:10 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>And how frequently did you communicate with     | 11:05:11 |\n| 18 | Mr. Qiang Guo during that time, say the spring of     | 11:05:16 |\n| 19 | 2018?                                                 | 11:05:22 |\n| 20 | A.<br>I don't recall, but I do believe we -- we       | 11:05:24 |\n| 21 | talk as needed.                                       | 11:05:29 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Once a day?                            | 11:05:30 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 11:05:35 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you recall whether you talked to    | 11:05:36 |\n| 25 | him once a week?                                      | 11:05:39 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 69  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 95 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>As I said, we just talk as     | 11:05:43 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | needed.<br>If, you know, we need to talk, we just talk. | 11:05:47 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Okay.                                             | 11:05:51 |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't, like, calculate, yeah.                   | 11:05:52 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>No.<br>I understand.                              | 11:05:54 |\n| 6  | And I don't mean to be asking for a precise             | 11:05:56 |\n| 7  | calculation.<br>I'm just trying to get a sense of how   | 11:05:58 |\n| 8  | often you talked to him.                                | 11:06:02 |\n| 9  | When you talked to him, meaning                         | 11:06:03 |\n| 10 | Mr. Qiang Guo, did you speak by phone? in person?       | 11:06:06 |\n| 11 | a mix?                                                  | 11:06:12 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Both.                                             | 11:06:15 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Hang on one second, please.<br>Sorry     | 11:06:22 |\n| 14 | for the holdup.                                         | 11:06:58 |\n| 15 | How often did you communicate with                      | 11:07:01 |\n| 16 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok in the spring of 2018 to fulfill your   | 11:07:07 |\n| 17 | role, as you have described it?                         | 11:07:13 |\n| 18 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                   | 11:07:17 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Did you ever communicate with him?                | 11:07:18 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 11:07:23 |\n| 21 | We did communicate.                                     | 11:07:26 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And was that in person?                           | 11:07:27 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 11:07:31 |\n| 24 | In person.                                              | 11:07:33 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And how frequently?                      | 11:07:33 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 70  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 96 of\n\n| 1 | A. | I don't recall.                        | 11:07:37 |\n|---|----|----------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2 | Q. | Okay.<br>More than one a week?         | 11:07:40 |\n| 3 | A. | Sir, you are asking back to 2018, when | 11:07:45 |\n\n| 3  | A.<br>Sir, you are asking back to 2018, when         | 11:07:45 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 4  | I start work for Golden Spring?                      | 11:07:51 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Yes.<br>Yes, ma'am.<br>I am.                   | 11:07:54 |\n| 6  | A.<br>Oh, I don't recall.                            | 11:07:57 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Let's see.                            | 11:07:58 |\n| 8  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Oh, thank you.                       | 11:08:26 |\n| 9  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 11:08:26 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>My colleague reminds me, I meant to ask this   | 11:08:28 |\n| 11 | question.                                            | 11:08:32 |\n| 12 | When you started working at Golden Spring            | 11:08:32 |\n| 13 | (New York) in New York City, where did you reside?   | 11:08:37 |\n| 14 | I don't mean the -- the exact address, but where did | 11:08:41 |\n| 15 | you reside?                                          | 11:08:45 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>There are security       | 11:08:47 |\n| 17 | reasons that Ms. Wang does not want to give          | 11:08:51 |\n| 18 | a residence address.                                 | 11:08:54 |\n| 19 | Are you talking about a city or -- something         | 11:08:57 |\n| 20 | as general as a city or are you talking address?     | 11:09:00 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH:<br>I'll -- I'll try and ask the         | 11:09:05 |\n| 22 | question in a way that avoids those concerns, Scott. | 11:09:07 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Thank you.                             | 11:09:11 |\n| 24 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 11:09:12 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, when you started working at          | 11:09:12 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 71  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 97 of 280\n\n1 Golden Spring (New York) in New York City in 2018, 11:09:15 2 did you reside in the same location as 11:09:21 3 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 11:09:24 4 A. I lived in New York. 11:09:33 5 Q. Did you reside -- again, I'm not talking 11:09:34 6 about now. 11:09:41 7 I'm talking about in 2018, when you started 11:09:41 8 working at Golden Spring (New York), did you reside 11:09:46 9 in the same dwelling as Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 11:09:51 10 A. Sir, what do you mean by dwelling? Do you 11:10:00 11 mean -- 11:10:03 12 Q. A house. 11:10:03 13 A. Is it -- 11:10:04 14 Q. Is it a house? an apartment? It doesn't 11:10:05 15 matter. 11:10:09 16 Did you live in the same home as 11:10:09 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 11:10:12 18 A. No. 11:10:12 19 Q. Have you ever been to the -- withdrawn. 11:10:19 20 Have you ever lived in the eighteenth floor 11:10:22 21 apartment of the Sherry-Netherland? 11:10:29 22 A. I visited there, sir. 11:10:33 23 Q. Fair enough. 11:10:36 24 I'm asking whether you have ever resided 11:10:36 25 there. 11:10:40 Page 72\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 98 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>What do you mean, reside?<br>As in, like,      | 11:10:40 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | my -- my home?<br>No.                                | 11:10:45 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Have you ever stayed there for --     | 11:10:47 |\n| 4  | MR. HARBACH:<br>And, Scott, this is my last          | 11:10:52 |\n| 5  | one.                                                 | 11:10:54 |\n| 6  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 11:10:55 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Have you ever stayed there for more than       | 11:10:55 |\n| 8  | a couple of weeks?                                   | 11:10:58 |\n| 9  | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:10:59 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Can we turn now to -- back to         | 11:11:00 |\n| 11 | Exhibit 1.                                           | 11:11:20 |\n| 12 | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                            | 11:11:22 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Tell me when you have got it up, Ms. Wang.     | 11:11:28 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes, I am.                                     | 11:11:35 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>The cover page, just to help you      | 11:11:36 |\n| 16 | orient yourself, is dated October 11th, 2018, which  | 11:11:44 |\n| 17 | was the date of this deposition.                     | 11:11:49 |\n| 18 | Okay?                                                | 11:11:52 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 11:11:54 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>All right.<br>And so that is approximately --  | 11:11:54 |\n| 21 | I don't know -- six months after you started working | 11:12:00 |\n| 22 | at Golden Spring (New York)?                         | 11:12:03 |\n| 23 | A.<br>And -- yes.<br>Kind of.                        | 11:12:11 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>You said you started working in the spring     | 11:12:13 |\n| 25 | of 2018; so approximately six months.                | 11:12:16 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 73  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 99 of 280\n\n| 1  | Is that fair?                                       | 11:12:19 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Yes.                                          | 11:12:20 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So let's go to page sixty.           | 11:12:21 |\n| 4  | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                           | 11:12:32 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>And, again, looking at the little pages.      | 11:12:33 |\n| 6  | Tell me when you are there.                         | 11:12:45 |\n| 7  | A.<br>Yes.                                          | 11:12:50 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>The very top of page sixty there is  | 11:12:50 |\n| 9  | a -- the tail end of a question and then a question | 11:12:54 |\n| 10 | that begins on line two:                            | 11:12:57 |\n| 11 | \"QUESTION:<br>Do you know Mileson Kwok?\"            | 11:13:00 |\n| 12 | Your answer is:                                     | 11:13:04 |\n| 13 | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.\"                                   | 11:13:05 |\n| 14 | The question:                                       | 11:13:06 |\n| 15 | \"QUESTION:<br>Is that Mr. Kwok's son?               | 11:13:06 |\n| 16 | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.                                    | 11:13:09 |\n| 17 | \"QUESTION:<br>Have you ever met him in              | 11:13:11 |\n| 18 | person?                                             | 11:13:12 |\n| 19 | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.                                    | 11:13:13 |\n| 20 | \"QUESTION:<br>Does he have any role at              | 11:13:14 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring?                                      | 11:13:17 |\n| 22 | \"ANSWER:<br>I don't know.                           | 11:13:19 |\n| 23 | \"QUESTION:<br>You never interacted with             | 11:13:22 |\n| 24 | him in regard to any Golden Spring business?        | 11:13:24 |\n| 25 | \"ANSWER:<br>No.\"                                    | 11:13:28 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 74  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 100 of 280\n\n| 1  | Did I read that correctly?                              | 11:13:36 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 11:13:38 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Can you explain -- well, first of all, is         | 11:13:39 |\n| 4  | that true?                                              | 11:13:46 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Well --                                           | 11:13:52 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Let's go through them -- let's go through         | 11:13:53 |\n| 7  | them one by one so we can be crystal clear.<br>First    | 11:13:57 |\n| 8  | question:                                               | 11:14:01 |\n| 9  | \"QUESTION:<br>Do you know Mileson Kwong?\"               | 11:14:01 |\n| 10 | Was that true in October 11th, 2018, you                | 11:14:09 |\n| 11 | knew Mileson Kwok?<br>Was that true?                    | 11:14:11 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I was given a wrong impression back in 2018.      | 11:14:13 |\n| 13 | Like, I was thinking, like, Mileson go with Kwok        | 11:14:17 |\n| 14 | also.<br>The reason why --                              | 11:14:22 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>I am --                                           | 11:14:22 |\n| 16 | A.<br>-- I am --                                        | 11:14:24 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>-- going to --                                    | 11:14:24 |\n| 18 | A.<br>-- testifying --                                  | 11:14:24 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>-- interrupt.                                     | 11:14:24 |\n| 20 | A.<br>-- right now --                                   | 11:14:25 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Yeah.                                             | 11:14:25 |\n| 22 | A.<br>-- I was corrected by Mr. Qiang Guo.              | 11:14:27 |\n| 23 | He purposely corrected me after -- I forget when.<br>He | 11:14:30 |\n| 24 | corrected me and said that he always go with            | 11:14:33 |\n| 25 | Mileson Kwok; so the testimony by then back in 2018     | 11:14:37 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 75  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 101 of 280\n\n| 1  | was accurate.                                        | 11:14:41 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.                                          | 11:14:42 |\n| 3  | A.<br>The testimony right now, after I was           | 11:14:43 |\n| 4  | corrected, is accurate also, sir.                    | 11:14:45 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>I see.                                         | 11:14:48 |\n| 6  | And so the -- the correction concerned his           | 11:14:49 |\n| 7  | name; right?                                         | 11:14:51 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 11:14:52 |\n| 9  | Mr. Qiang Guo's name.                                | 11:14:53 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.                                          | 11:14:55 |\n| 11 | A.<br>That is reason why I am insisting calling      | 11:14:56 |\n| 12 | him Mr. Qiang Guo; right?                            | 11:15:00 |\n| 13 | So that is the accurate -- you know, his             | 11:15:00 |\n| 14 | official name.                                       | 11:15:04 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Understood.                                    | 11:15:04 |\n| 16 | A.<br>That works better for me, yeah.                | 11:15:05 |\n| 17 | MR. HARBACH:<br>And with apologies to the            | 11:15:07 |\n| 18 | reporter for interrupting.<br>I'll try to do better. | 11:15:10 |\n| 19 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 11:15:13 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Next question on the deposition transcript     | 11:15:13 |\n| 21 | is:                                                  | 11:15:16 |\n| 22 | \"QUESTION:<br>Is that Mr. Kwok's son?                | 11:15:17 |\n| 23 | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.\"                                    | 11:15:20 |\n| 24 | So there is no question whether it is                | 11:15:22 |\n| 25 | Mileson Kwok or Qiang Guo.                           | 11:15:25 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 76  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 102 of 280\n\n| 1  | We are talking about Mr. Kwok Ho Wan's son;         | 11:15:27 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | correct?                                            | 11:15:34 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Correct.                                      | 11:15:34 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has one, and only one,    | 11:15:35 |\n| 5  | son; correct?                                       | 11:15:40 |\n| 6  | A.<br>Correct.                                      | 11:15:42 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Next question:                       | 11:15:43 |\n| 8  | \"QUESTION:<br>Have you ever met him\" --             | 11:15:47 |\n| 9  | Meaning who we're calling Qiang Guo.                | 11:15:51 |\n| 10 | -- \"in person?\"                                     | 11:15:54 |\n| 11 | Your answer was:                                    | 11:15:56 |\n| 12 | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.\"                                   | 11:15:58 |\n| 13 | Was that true that you had met Qiang Guo in         | 11:16:01 |\n| 14 | person as of October 11th, 2018?                    | 11:16:05 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.                                          | 11:16:07 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Next question:                       | 11:16:07 |\n| 17 | \"QUESTION:<br>Does he, Qiang Guo, have any          | 11:16:17 |\n| 18 | role at Golden Spring?\"                             | 11:16:17 |\n| 19 | Your answer was you don't know.                     | 11:16:19 |\n| 20 | Now, this is six months after you said you          | 11:16:22 |\n| 21 | started at Golden Spring.<br>Months after what you  | 11:16:25 |\n| 22 | claim earlier were conversations with Mr. Qiang Guo | 11:16:31 |\n| 23 | about your role and duties.                         | 11:16:35 |\n| 24 | So why, six months after you started at             | 11:16:39 |\n| 25 | Golden Spring, did you say that you didn't know     | 11:16:42 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 77  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 103 of 280\n\n| 1  | whether he had any role?                                  | 11:16:46 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>That was after --                                   | 11:16:50 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Isn't that -- isn't that also true that you         | 11:16:52 |\n| 4  | did not know?                                             | 11:16:55 |\n| 5  | A.<br>So sir, you finish your question; so can            | 11:17:02 |\n| 6  | I start to answer or you still have more, sir?<br>I'll    | 11:17:06 |\n| 7  | wait until you finish.                                    | 11:17:09 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>You -- thank you for waiting.                       | 11:17:11 |\n| 9  | You can answer if you answer my question.                 | 11:17:12 |\n| 10 | The question is is it true that as of                     | 11:17:15 |\n| 11 | October 11th, 2018, you did not know whether              | 11:17:19 |\n| 12 | Qiang Guo had any role at Golden Spring?<br>That is the   | 11:17:27 |\n| 13 | question.                                                 | 11:17:30 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Back to 2018, I don't know by then in my            | 11:17:33 |\n| 15 | understanding the role means employee or employees;       | 11:17:38 |\n| 16 | so by then I did not know whether he was employee or      | 11:17:43 |\n| 17 | not.<br>But I do know he is the boss.<br>He is the owner. | 11:17:47 |\n| 18 | I do not know whether he is employee or not because       | 11:17:51 |\n| 19 | he was majorly handling the Golden Spring majority of     | 11:17:54 |\n| 20 | work by then.<br>I only work and cooperate with him as    | 11:18:00 |\n| 21 | needed back in 2018.                                      | 11:18:05 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>In 2018 you didn't say he was the boss?<br>Six      | 11:18:07 |\n| 23 | months after you claimed to have started working with     | 11:18:13 |\n| 24 | him you didn't say he was the boss, did you?              | 11:18:16 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I was not asked whether he was the boss or          | 11:18:19 |\n|    |                                                           | Page 78  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 104\n\n|  | of 280 |  |\n|--|--------|--|\n|  |        |  |\n|  |        |  |\n|  |        |  |\n\n| 1  | not.                                                     | 11:18:24 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>You were asked whether he had any role?            | 11:18:24 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Any role, in my understanding back to 2018,        | 11:18:27 |\n| 4  | as employee.                                             | 11:18:32 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>How about the next question:              | 11:18:33 |\n| 6  | \"QUESTION:<br>You never interacted with                  | 11:18:37 |\n| 7  | him in regards to any Golden Spring                      | 11:18:39 |\n| 8  | business?\"                                               | 11:18:43 |\n| 9  | That was the question you were asked, and                | 11:18:46 |\n| 10 | the answer you gave was:                                 | 11:18:48 |\n| 11 | \"ANSWER:<br>No.\"                                         | 11:18:51 |\n| 12 | My question for you right now is is it                   | 11:18:52 |\n| 13 | true -- is it true that as of October 11th, 2018, you    | 11:18:55 |\n| 14 | had not interacted with Qiang Guo in regard to any       | 11:19:01 |\n| 15 | Golden Spring business?<br>Is that true or not?          | 11:19:08 |\n| 16 | A.<br>It is a correct answer because back in 2018,       | 11:19:13 |\n| 17 | Mr. Qiang Guo, he was the major person running           | 11:19:19 |\n| 18 | Golden Spring; so I didn't understand -- again,          | 11:19:22 |\n| 19 | English not my native language -- what is interacted     | 11:19:29 |\n| 20 | with.<br>My understanding, by then he was running the    | 11:19:33 |\n| 21 | company.<br>I just work for him as he needed.<br>That is | 11:19:35 |\n| 22 | my understanding; so -- which is correct.                | 11:19:38 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Right.                                             | 11:19:41 |\n| 24 | And you told me five minutes ago that you                | 11:19:41 |\n| 25 | had contact with him -- you didn't remember how          | 11:19:44 |\n|    |                                                          |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 105 of 280\n\n| 1  | frequently -- and that it was -- I believe you said     | 11:19:47 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | a mix of by phone and in person.                        | 11:19:51 |\n| 3  | Do you -- does that not count as interaction            | 11:19:59 |\n| 4  | in your mind?                                           | 11:20:02 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Interact with him in Golden Spring business.      | 11:20:03 |\n| 6  | I mean, him and myself, we're friend also along the     | 11:20:06 |\n| 7  | way for so many years; so when you ask me five          | 11:20:11 |\n| 8  | minutes ago, I mean, we do, like, meet and talk as      | 11:20:14 |\n| 9  | needed.<br>But the question back to 2018, it is asking  | 11:20:18 |\n| 10 | about interacted with him in regard to any              | 11:20:23 |\n| 11 | Golden Spring business, which my testify was true.      | 11:20:26 |\n| 12 | He was in charge of all the Golden Spring business      | 11:20:29 |\n| 13 | back to then.<br>And I know I'm part of Golden Spring,  | 11:20:32 |\n| 14 | but, really, like, he -- he was the person running      | 11:20:36 |\n| 15 | the business.                                           | 11:20:39 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, isn't it true that, in fact, you        | 11:20:40 |\n| 17 | were not interacting with Qiang Guo, certainly not in   | 11:20:46 |\n| 18 | 2018, about Golden Spring business?<br>Isn't that true? | 11:20:51 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Can you reframe your question again, sir?         | 11:20:56 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Isn't it true that in 2018 you, in fact,          | 11:21:01 |\n| 21 | were not interacting with Mr. Qiang Guo at all          | 11:21:05 |\n| 22 | related to anything Golden Spring was doing?<br>Isn't   | 11:21:10 |\n| 23 | that the truth?                                         | 11:21:14 |\n| 24 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>It is too long time ago,       | 11:21:15 |\n| 25 | and this deposition was conducted -- I don't believe    | 11:21:21 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 80  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 106 of 280\n\n| 1  | I had an interpreter by then.                        | 11:21:25 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Isn't it also true that the boss of            | 11:21:27 |\n| 3  | Golden Spring (New York), when you started working   | 11:21:30 |\n| 4  | there, wasn't Qiang Guo; it was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?     | 11:21:32 |\n| 5  | Isn't that true?                                     | 11:21:37 |\n| 6  | A.<br>Golden Spring (New York)'s boss is always      | 11:21:38 |\n| 7  | Mr. Qiang Guo.                                       | 11:21:43 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Isn't it true that you have been a long-term   | 11:21:44 |\n| 9  | employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?                         | 11:21:53 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I have been working for Mr. Qiang Guo,         | 11:22:00 |\n| 11 | himself, and his family.                             | 11:22:04 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>I'm -- I'm not asking about           | 11:22:06 |\n| 13 | Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>I'll ask the question again.       | 11:22:08 |\n| 14 | Isn't it true that you were a long-term              | 11:22:13 |\n| 15 | employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?                         | 11:22:18 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't believe so.<br>Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he     | 11:22:23 |\n| 17 | never pay me or ever pays me or pay me at all.       | 11:22:25 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Does he tell you --                            | 11:22:29 |\n| 19 | A.<br>So I always work for Mr. Qiang Guo and his     | 11:22:31 |\n| 20 | business.                                            | 11:22:35 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever tell you what to     | 11:22:35 |\n| 22 | do?                                                  | 11:22:37 |\n| 23 | A.<br>What do you mean, ever tell me what to -- if   | 11:22:38 |\n| 24 | they ask me for help, of course I will offer my help | 11:22:42 |\n| 25 | to him.                                              | 11:22:45 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 81  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 107 of 280\n\n1 Q. Does -- does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever give you 11:22:46 2 direction? 11:22:48 3 A. He ask for support and help, which I'm 11:22:49 4 always willing to do that for him. 11:22:55 5 Q. Does he ask -- ever ask you to go get 11:22:57 6 coffee? 11:23:00 7 A. I don't recall. 11:23:01 8 What do you mean? 11:23:03 9 Q. You don't -- you don't recall whether 11:23:05 10 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to get coffee? 11:23:07 11 A. Sir, I mean, I don't recall. Just, like, 11:23:11 12 why I should recall someone ask me to get coffee; 11:23:15 13 right? 11:23:18 14 Q. Well, I don't -- I don't know. Maybe he has 11:23:19 15 asked you to get coffee hundreds of times. Maybe he 11:23:21 16 never has. All I can do is ask the question. 11:23:25 17 Do you recall -- 11:23:28 18 A. I don't recall that. 11:23:28 19 Q. -- if Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to 11:23:29 20 go get coffee? 11:23:32 21 A. I don't recall. 11:23:34 22 Q. Okay. What about to translate something for 11:23:34 23 him, meaning Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? Have you ever done 11:23:37 24 that for him? 11:23:40 25 A. Yes, I did. 11:23:41 Page 82\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 108 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.           | How frequently?                                | 11:23:42       |\n|----|--------------|------------------------------------------------|----------------|\n| 2  | A.           | I don't recall.                                | 11:23:44       |\n| 3  | Q.           | More than once?                                | 11:23:48       |\n| 4  | A.           | Yes.                                           | 11:23:50       |\n| 5  |              | More than once.                                | 11:23:51       |\n| 6  | Q.           | Okay.<br>When was the last time you translated | 11:23:52       |\n| 7  |              | something for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?                 | 11:23:55       |\n| 8  | A.           | I don't recall.                                | 11:23:57       |\n| 9  | Q.           | Okay.<br>Let's go to --                        | 11:24:01       |\n| 10 |              | MR. HARBACH:<br>What is 331?<br>I can't see.   | Is<br>11:24:08 |\n| 11 | that --      |                                                | 11:24:11       |\n| 12 |              | BY MR. HARBACH:                                | 11:24:13       |\n| 13 | Q.           | Okay.<br>Let's go to Exhibit 2, please.        | 11:24:13       |\n| 14 | A.           | (Witness complies.)                            | 11:24:15       |\n| 15 | Q.           | And I'll ask you -- do you have Exhibit 2,     | 11:24:23       |\n| 16 | Ms. Wang?    |                                                | 11:24:26       |\n| 17 | A.           | Yes.                                           | 11:24:27       |\n| 18 | Q.           | Okay.<br>Can you go, please, to page           | 11:24:27       |\n| 19 | forty-eight. |                                                | 11:24:32       |\n| 20 | A.           | (Witness complies.)                            | 11:24:34       |\n| 21 | Q.           | Tell me when you are there.                    | 11:24:46       |\n| 22 | A.           | I'm working on it, sir.<br>Forty-eight.        | 11:24:50       |\n| 23 | Q.           | Yes, ma'am.                                    | 11:24:53       |\n| 24 | A.           | Yes.                                           | 11:24:56       |\n| 25 |              | I am here.                                     | 11:24:56       |\n|    |              |                                                | Page 83        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 109 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so there is a long answer on page | 11:24:57 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | forty-eight that goes from line twelve to line       | 11:25:02 |\n| 3  | twenty-three.<br>And I'm not going to read the whole | 11:25:06 |\n| 4  | thing, but I want to direct your attention to the    | 11:25:10 |\n| 5  | second half of that answer.<br>It says:              | 11:25:15 |\n| 6  | \"They are arrested and put in jail by                | 11:25:19 |\n| 7  | Chinese Communist party.<br>And a lot of his         | 11:25:22 |\n| 8  | family member, including his son, his                | 11:25:26 |\n| 9  | daughter, niece, nephew, and his                     | 11:25:28 |\n| 10 | sister-in-law, brothers, they were all               | 11:25:32 |\n| 11 | threatened, kidnapped, and put in jail               | 11:25:37 |\n| 12 | without any reason until now, including all          | 11:25:40 |\n| 13 | of his, like, long-term employee, just like          | 11:25:43 |\n| 14 | me.\"                                                 | 11:25:47 |\n| 15 | So you are talking about Mr. Ho Wan Kwok             | 11:25:50 |\n| 16 | here; correct?                                       | 11:25:56 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Can I read the entire from sentence twelve     | 11:25:58 |\n| 18 | until twenty-three?                                  | 11:26:04 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Absolutely.<br>Take your time, read it to      | 11:26:05 |\n| 20 | yourself, and let me know when you are finished.     | 11:26:08 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Thank you.                                     | 11:26:11 |\n| 22 | Okay.<br>I finished it, sir.                         | 11:27:12 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Thank you.                                     | 11:27:15 |\n| 24 | My question is the person who you were               | 11:27:15 |\n| 25 | talking about in this answer, who you refer to as he | 11:27:18 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 84  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 110 of 280\n\n| 1  | and his, is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?                  | 11:27:22 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>And reading from the language, of course,        | 11:27:28 |\n| 3  | this is by -- by the transcript court recorder.        | 11:27:33 |\n| 4  | Like, it -- reading from the language, it looks like   | 11:27:39 |\n| 5  | yes.<br>But I am referring to -- as I am starting from | 11:27:43 |\n| 6  | the Guo family, is not just his immediate family, the  | 11:27:47 |\n| 7  | entire Guo family.                                     | 11:27:52 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Yes.                                             | 11:27:53 |\n| 9  | And you said on line two:                              | 11:27:54 |\n| 10 | \"Mr. Kwok, Miles Kwok, he is number                    | 11:27:56 |\n| 11 | seventh son of the whole family.\"                      | 11:28:06 |\n| 12 | You are talking about the debtor,                      | 11:28:07 |\n| 13 | Kwok Ho Wan; correct?                                  | 11:28:10 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Correct.                                         | 11:28:12 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And then you describe all of his        | 11:28:12 |\n| 16 | relatives and the terrible things that happens to      | 11:28:16 |\n| 17 | them.<br>And then you say that the people to whom that | 11:28:21 |\n| 18 | happened include all of his, meaning                   | 11:28:29 |\n| 19 | Mr. Kwok Ho Wan -- all of his long-term employee,      | 11:28:34 |\n| 20 | just like me; so this is the basis for my question     | 11:28:41 |\n| 21 | five minutes ago.                                      | 11:28:49 |\n| 22 | Isn't it true that you are a long-term                 | 11:28:51 |\n| 23 | employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>Is that true or not?   | 11:28:55 |\n| 24 | A.<br>I am a long-term employee for the Guo            | 11:29:01 |\n| 25 | family.<br>I mean, I didn't remember clearly what was  | 11:29:09 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 85  |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 111 of 280\n\n| 1  | recorded in here.<br>Like, obviously, I was never in    | 11:29:12 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | jail.<br>I am under threatened, but I was not kidnapped | 11:29:17 |\n| 3  | and in jail.<br>I think it is still blamed to my broken | 11:29:21 |\n| 4  | English back there.<br>When I say long-term employee,   | 11:29:27 |\n| 5  | my real -- my meaning as the Guo family.<br>I am        | 11:29:30 |\n| 6  | a long-term employee of Guo family.                     | 11:29:32 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Who?                                              | 11:29:36 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he never hired me by             | 11:29:37 |\n| 9  | himself.                                                | 11:29:43 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Well, who -- who -- first, since you brought      | 11:29:43 |\n| 11 | it up, who was the person who hired you to work for     | 11:29:45 |\n| 12 | the Guo family?                                         | 11:29:49 |\n| 13 | A.<br>It was a company.<br>It was a company called      | 11:29:51 |\n| 14 | Pangu, P-a-n-g-u.<br>Beijing Pangu.                     | 11:29:53 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Yeah.                                             | 11:29:58 |\n| 16 | And who was the boss of Beijing Pangu when              | 11:29:59 |\n| 17 | you were hired to work for the Guo family?              | 11:30:03 |\n| 18 | A.<br>You mean boss, like the owner?                    | 11:30:07 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Well, you know, you can ascribe whatever          | 11:30:11 |\n| 20 | meaning you want to boss, Ms. Wang, but you seem to     | 11:30:14 |\n| 21 | understand that Qiang Guo is the boss of                | 11:30:17 |\n| 22 | Golden Spring; so you tell me.                          | 11:30:19 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Oh, understand.                                   | 11:30:21 |\n| 24 | So Beijing Pangu was owned by the Guo                   | 11:30:22 |\n| 25 | families.                                               | 11:30:28 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 86  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 112 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So who was it --                        | 11:30:29 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. HARBACH:<br>And -- and, Scott, I won't             | 11:30:32 |\n| 3  | stay here long, but she brought it up.                 | 11:30:35 |\n| 4  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 11:30:37 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, who was it who told you at the         | 11:30:38 |\n| 6  | very beginning -- when you first started working for   | 11:30:41 |\n| 7  | the Guo family, who was it who told you you were       | 11:30:44 |\n| 8  | hired?<br>Which person?                                | 11:30:47 |\n| 9  | A.<br>I was advised by the HR department, which        | 11:30:49 |\n| 10 | I couldn't recall.<br>That was back in 20- -- 2008.    | 11:30:57 |\n| 11 | I couldn't recall.<br>But I was informed by the HR     | 11:31:02 |\n| 12 | department I was hired.                                | 11:31:06 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>I'm going to apologize for rewinding just        | 11:31:07 |\n| 14 | for a moment back to an earlier topic.<br>I'll try and | 11:31:19 |\n| 15 | make this clear and efficient.                         | 11:31:24 |\n| 16 | In Exhibit 4, which is your affidavit, you             | 11:31:32 |\n| 17 | recall that -- that I asked you several questions      | 11:31:46 |\n| 18 | about what being an administrator for                  | 11:31:49 |\n| 19 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests meant?<br>You with me?     | 11:31:52 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 11:31:58 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So the reason I'm coming back to this   | 11:31:58 |\n| 22 | is because I neglected to point something else out to  | 11:32:02 |\n| 23 | you.<br>And it is Exhibit 1; so could you turn to      | 11:32:07 |\n| 24 | Exhibit 1, please.                                     | 11:32:15 |\n| 25 | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                              | 11:32:17 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 87  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 113 of 280\n\n| 1  | So it is not Exhibit 2?<br>You want me to go      | 11:32:23 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | back to Exhibit 1, sir; right?                    | 11:32:26 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                 | 11:32:29 |\n| 4  | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                         | 11:32:32 |\n| 5  | I'm here.                                         | 11:32:33 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Thank you.                         | 11:32:34 |\n| 7  | Now, could you please scroll forward on the       | 11:32:35 |\n| 8  | small pages to page forty-six.                    | 11:32:38 |\n| 9  | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                         | 11:32:42 |\n| 10 | Yes.                                              | 11:32:52 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Very good.                         | 11:32:53 |\n| 12 | Now, on this subject of what administrator        | 11:32:54 |\n| 13 | means, if you'll look down at line twenty of page | 11:32:59 |\n| 14 | forty-six, you'll see a question:                 | 11:33:06 |\n| 15 | \"QUESTION:<br>I'm asking you whether or           | 11:33:11 |\n| 16 | not you serve as an administrator for             | 11:33:12 |\n| 17 | Mr. Kwok's\" --                                    | 11:33:17 |\n| 18 | That is Ho Wan Kwok -- for his interests.         | 11:33:18 |\n| 19 | And your answer was:                              | 11:33:22 |\n| 20 | \"ANSWER:<br>Yes.\"                                 | 11:33:24 |\n| 21 | And then you were asked:                          | 11:33:25 |\n| 22 | \"QUESTION:<br>What does that mean?\"               | 11:33:27 |\n| 23 | And you said:                                     | 11:33:30 |\n| 24 | \"ANSWER:<br>Translator,\" comma,                   | 11:33:31 |\n\n25 \"assistant.\" 11:33:33\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 114 of 280\n\n| 1  | Do you see that there?                                | 11:33:36 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 11:33:37 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Now, you have already told us that you --       | 11:33:38 |\n| 4  | you have, in fact, done some translation for          | 11:33:41 |\n| 5  | Mr. Kwok -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; right?                   | 11:33:45 |\n| 6  | A.<br>I translate for him -- translated for him,      | 11:33:48 |\n| 7  | yes.                                                  | 11:33:52 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Yes.                                            | 11:33:53 |\n| 9  | And if -- you also said -- it also says that          | 11:33:53 |\n| 10 | you were his assistant.                               | 11:34:00 |\n| 11 | Is that true?                                         | 11:34:01 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I mean that I -- I testified as an              | 11:34:03 |\n| 13 | administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and I help him as   | 11:34:09 |\n| 14 | per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, including, like,     | 11:34:13 |\n| 15 | help him to translate, make him understand, include,  | 11:34:17 |\n| 16 | like, assist as he needs -- right? -- to support him. | 11:34:22 |\n| 17 | It does not mean I have -- I have a title called      | 11:34:27 |\n| 18 | assistant; so if that is what you are looking for.    | 11:34:30 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Well --                                         | 11:34:32 |\n| 20 | A.<br>My meaning was I help him to understand as      | 11:34:33 |\n| 21 | to language and support him as he needed as his son's | 11:34:36 |\n| 22 | instruction.                                          | 11:34:40 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so what does that mean, other      | 11:34:41 |\n| 24 | than the translation work, when you say that assisted | 11:34:43 |\n| 25 | means support him as needed?<br>What sorts of things  | 11:34:47 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 89  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 115 of 280\n\n| 1  | did you do for him back in 2018?                      | 11:34:51 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>Could -- can you          | 11:34:57 |\n| 3  | clarify, when you use the word you, are you referring | 11:34:59 |\n| 4  | to Golden Spring, or are you referring to the witness | 11:35:01 |\n| 5  | personally?                                           | 11:35:04 |\n| 6  | MR. HARBACH:<br>That's fair, Scott.                   | 11:35:06 |\n| 7  | I believe when -- when she was deposed in             | 11:35:08 |\n| 8  | 2018, she was testifying in both her capacity as      | 11:35:11 |\n| 9  | a representative of Golden Spring and in her personal | 11:35:16 |\n| 10 | capacity; so she is going to have to clarify that for | 11:35:20 |\n| 11 | me.                                                   | 11:35:24 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN:<br>You can answer.                         | 11:35:26 |\n| 13 | THE WITNESS:<br>I don't recall.                       | 11:35:29 |\n| 14 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 11:35:29 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And in any case, your role as an       | 11:35:31 |\n| 16 | administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests, that,  | 11:35:35 |\n| 17 | according to you, was in your capacity as president   | 11:35:42 |\n| 18 | of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; correct?         | 11:35:46 |\n| 19 | A.<br>I was requested by Mr. Qiang Guo to help        | 11:35:52 |\n| 20 | back in 2018; that is correct.                        | 11:35:57 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Well, I want to make sure you          | 11:36:01 |\n| 22 | understand my question because since Mr. Rosen        | 11:36:04 |\n| 23 | helpfully raised capacity, I want to make sure we get | 11:36:07 |\n| 24 | this correct.                                         | 11:36:11 |\n| 25 | Okay?                                                 | 11:36:12 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 90  |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 116\n\n| of 280 |\n|--------|\n|        |\n\n| 1  | So bearing in mind that we are talking about          | 11:36:13 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | what being an administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's     | 11:36:18 |\n| 3  | interests means -- that is what we're talking         | 11:36:23 |\n| 4  | about -- I'm going to direct you back to Exhibit 1 -- | 11:36:26 |\n| 5  | correction.<br>Exhibit 4 -- sorry.                    | 11:36:31 |\n| 6  | A.<br>So Exhibit 4, sir; right?<br>Which one are we   | 11:36:36 |\n| 7  | talking about?<br>Four?                               | 11:36:41 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                     | 11:36:42 |\n| 9  | The number four.                                      | 11:36:46 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I'm here.                                       | 11:36:48 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>And this affidavit, which you have already      | 11:36:49 |\n| 12 | told us you signed and swore to as being true and     | 11:36:53 |\n| 13 | correct, states that you're serving as an             | 11:36:57 |\n| 14 | administrator for the interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok    | 11:37:02 |\n| 15 | and his family was in your capacity as president of   | 11:37:07 |\n| 16 | Golden Spring (New York) Limited; isn't that correct? | 11:37:14 |\n| 17 | A.<br>I was hired by Golden Spring (New York), and    | 11:37:23 |\n| 18 | I take instruction from the owner of Golden Spring    | 11:37:28 |\n| 19 | (New York).<br>And I was available to support his     | 11:37:32 |\n| 20 | family, including his father.<br>That is what the     | 11:37:36 |\n| 21 | capacity, to me, means in here.                       | 11:37:40 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And -- and what you just described,             | 11:37:43 |\n| 23 | according to you, was in your capacity as president   | 11:37:45 |\n| 24 | of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; isn't that       | 11:37:50 |\n| 25 | right?                                                | 11:37:54 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 117 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I don't understand, sir.<br>I mean, capacity,    | 11:37:54 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | I am available.<br>I am here.<br>I offer my support as | 11:38:02 |\n| 3  | Mr. Qiang Guo requested me to do.<br>That is my        | 11:38:05 |\n| 4  | understanding about capacity.<br>If that is the        | 11:38:08 |\n| 5  | capacity you are talking, that is the same, yes.       | 11:38:10 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Well, I hear you.                                | 11:38:13 |\n| 7  | All I'm trying to confirm is that that was             | 11:38:15 |\n| 8  | what you were supposed to do, according to you, as     | 11:38:19 |\n| 9  | president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was      | 11:38:23 |\n| 10 | translate for Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and cater to his         | 11:38:30 |\n| 11 | personal needs; is that right?<br>Is that what you are | 11:38:34 |\n| 12 | saying?                                                | 11:38:38 |\n| 13 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                               | 11:38:39 |\n| 14 | You -- you can answer.                                 | 11:38:40 |\n| 15 | THE WITNESS:<br>Let me repeat again.                   | 11:38:44 |\n| 16 | My capacity as president of Golden Spring              | 11:38:46 |\n| 17 | (New York) is to work as per the owner of company      | 11:38:49 |\n| 18 | requesting needs to me, including assist his father,   | 11:38:55 |\n| 19 | translate for his father, and that including here I'm  | 11:38:58 |\n| 20 | being deposed today; right?                            | 11:39:02 |\n| 21 | And sign the affidavit.<br>Including a lot of          | 11:39:05 |\n| 22 | things, I mean, if I may say, not only as you just     | 11:39:08 |\n| 23 | tried to describe me as assistant or translator, if    | 11:39:12 |\n| 24 | that is helpful to you, sir.                           | 11:39:17 |\n| 25 | ///                                                    |          |\n|    |                                                        |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 118\n\nof 280\n\n|  | 11 | : 3 |  |\n|--|----|-----|--|\n|  |    |     |  |\n\n| 1  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 11:39:18 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Well, translator and assistant, again,          | 11:39:18 |\n| 3  | Ms. Wang, those were your words, not mine.<br>I just  | 11:39:22 |\n| 4  | read them to you from a transcript.<br>And so all I'm | 11:39:25 |\n| 5  | doing is trying to explore what your job as president | 11:39:28 |\n| 6  | of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was.<br>And you   | 11:39:31 |\n| 7  | have -- you have explained part of that to us,        | 11:39:34 |\n| 8  | I think.<br>And I'm just trying to understand what    | 11:39:38 |\n| 9  | assistant means.                                      | 11:39:45 |\n| 10 | Besides being a translator, can you tell me           | 11:39:53 |\n| 11 | any more about that?                                  | 11:39:57 |\n| 12 | A.<br>About what, sir?                                | 11:39:58 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>About what you meant when you said you were     | 11:39:59 |\n| 14 | Kwok Ho Wan's assistant.                              | 11:40:04 |\n| 15 | A.<br>That is what I -- that is -- that was not,      | 11:40:09 |\n| 16 | I mean, in my language.<br>I mean, still I don't --   | 11:40:13 |\n| 17 | I don't have this as my native language when I named  | 11:40:19 |\n| 18 | that, which means I offered that support and service. | 11:40:23 |\n| 19 | I don't have a title called translator or assistant.  | 11:40:26 |\n| 20 | Obviously --                                          | 11:40:31 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Which --                                        | 11:40:31 |\n| 22 | A.<br>-- I don't have it, yeah; so I offered that     | 11:40:32 |\n| 23 | support.                                              | 11:40:33 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 11:40:33 |\n| 25 | A.<br>This is what I'm meaning, if that is            | 11:40:34 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 93  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 119 of 280\n\n1 helpful. 11:40:37 2 Q. Got it. 11:40:37 3 Tell me what -- now, what you just meant 11:40:38 4 right now when you said support. 11:40:40 5 Besides translation, what else? 11:40:42 6 A. For example, I am being deposed right now in 11:40:44 7 this bankruptcy. 11:40:51 8 Q. Okay. 11:40:53 9 A. This is as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction; 11:40:53 10 right? 11:40:57 11 And so.... 11:40:57 12 Q. Is your testimony -- I don't think this is 11:40:58 13 what you are saying, but I'll ask it anyway because 11:41:00 14 it is a fair inference from your words. 11:41:03 15 Is your testimony today in support of 11:41:06 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 11:41:08 17 MR. ROSEN: Objection. 11:41:11 18 You can answer that. 11:41:14 19 THE WITNESS: I am testimony -- I am testify 11:41:15 20 today for a bankruptcy like a -- I believe the topic 11:41:19 21 is about DIP loan; right? 11:41:24 22 BY MR. HARBACH: 11:41:27 23 Q. And I would love to get there, but we -- 11:41:27 24 we're -- well, let me just ask one more time. 11:41:29 25 I understand that you are not -- you are 11:41:32 Page 94\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 120\n\n| of 280 |  |\n|--------|--|\n|--------|--|\n\n| 1  | saying that assistant was not your title.               | 11:41:36 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | I understand that.<br>I understand that your title was  | 11:41:39 |\n| 3  | all those titles I recited several times now at         | 11:41:42 |\n| 4  | Golden Spring (New York) Limited.<br>And I also         | 11:41:46 |\n| 5  | understand that according to you, in your capacity as   | 11:41:50 |\n| 6  | president, you served as an administrator of the        | 11:41:54 |\n| 7  | interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and the family.            | 11:41:58 |\n| 8  | You were asked at a deposition about what               | 11:42:04 |\n| 9  | serving as an administrator meant, and you said         | 11:42:07 |\n| 10 | translator and assistant.<br>Now, we all know what      | 11:42:12 |\n| 11 | a translator is, and that is clear.<br>It is clear that | 11:42:18 |\n| 12 | you performed that service for Mr. Kwok.                | 11:42:21 |\n| 13 | All I'm trying to understand, Ms. Wang, is              | 11:42:24 |\n| 14 | what else you did for him, and so far the only thing    | 11:42:27 |\n| 15 | you have said is testify at this deposition.            | 11:42:31 |\n| 16 | Is there anything else?                                 | 11:42:33 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 11:42:37 |\n| 18 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                                | 11:42:38 |\n| 19 | You can answer.                                         | 11:42:40 |\n| 20 | THE WITNESS:<br>Yes.                                    | 11:42:42 |\n| 21 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 11:42:43 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>What else?                               | 11:42:44 |\n| 23 | A.<br>For example, Mr. Qiang Guo, obviously, he         | 11:42:47 |\n| 24 | instructed Golden Spring to pay his father's, like,     | 11:42:54 |\n| 25 | food, clothes, and, like, including this -- they call   | 11:43:01 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 95  |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 121 of 280\n\n| 1  | the lifestyle -- I mean, take care of his father.    | 11:43:10 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>When did he give you that instruction?         | 11:43:13 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Oh, I don't recall.<br>I should -- from long   | 11:43:16 |\n| 4  | time ago.<br>I mean, son take care of the father.    | 11:43:22 |\n| 5  | I mean, that is kind of natural to me, so            | 11:43:25 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Well, I'm not going to quarrel with -- with    | 11:43:28 |\n| 7  | whether it is natural or not.                        | 11:43:32 |\n| 8  | My only question is you just said that --            | 11:43:34 |\n| 9  | that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you the instruction that you | 11:43:39 |\n| 10 | just recited.                                        | 11:43:43 |\n| 11 | And my question is when?<br>You said a long          | 11:43:45 |\n| 12 | time ago?<br>How long ago?                           | 11:43:48 |\n| 13 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:43:51 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>More than a month ago?                         | 11:43:52 |\n| 15 | A.<br>It should be longer than more than a month.    | 11:43:57 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Had he given you that instruction by  | 11:44:00 |\n| 17 | the time of your deposition in October of 2018?      | 11:44:03 |\n| 18 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:44:08 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Had he given you that instruction by the       | 11:44:08 |\n| 20 | time of your trial testimony in May of 2019?         | 11:44:12 |\n| 21 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:44:17 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Isn't it possible?                             | 11:44:18 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:44:23 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Well, did he give you that instruction         | 11:44:24 |\n| 25 | sometime in 2020?                                    | 11:44:33 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 96  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 122 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I really don't recall.                              | 11:44:35 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>How long has Golden Spring (New York) been          | 11:44:40 |\n| 3  | paying for Mr. Kwok's lifestyle, as you just said?        | 11:44:57 |\n| 4  | A.<br>How long?<br>I believe since I was appointed.       | 11:45:03 |\n| 5  | I mean, I don't recall clearly.<br>I don't recall.<br>But | 11:45:13 |\n| 6  | a long time.                                              | 11:45:17 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Well, you said two things there.<br>You    | 11:45:19 |\n| 8  | said you believe since you were appointed and you         | 11:45:22 |\n| 9  | have said you don't recall; so I have -- I'm going to     | 11:45:25 |\n| 10 | have to ask you to tell me which it is.                   | 11:45:29 |\n| 11 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>And I shouldn't speculate        | 11:45:33 |\n| 12 | or guess because when I was appointed, as                 | 11:45:37 |\n| 13 | I testified, like, a couple of minutes ago, which was     | 11:45:42 |\n| 14 | true, Mr. Qiang Guo was operating and running his         | 11:45:46 |\n| 15 | business; so that is the reason I correct my answer       | 11:45:50 |\n| 16 | to be I don't recall because I was not paying that by     | 11:45:53 |\n| 17 | myself.<br>I don't recall the answers.                    | 11:45:59 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Understood.                                         | 11:46:00 |\n| 19 | What role did you have -- as president,                   | 11:46:01 |\n| 20 | secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring,      | 11:46:13 |\n| 21 | what role did you have in making sure that                | 11:46:18 |\n| 22 | Mr. Kwok's -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle needs were      | 11:46:24 |\n| 23 | paid for?                                                 | 11:46:29 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Sorry, sir.                                         | 11:46:31 |\n| 25 | Can you please repeat your question?                      | 11:46:33 |\n|    |                                                           | Page 97  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 123\n\nof 280\n\n| ) |\n|---|\n|   |\n|   |\n|   |\n|   |\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                       | 11:46:35 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | As president, secretary, treasurer, and                 | 11:46:36 |\n| 3  | director of Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what      | 11:46:42 |\n| 4  | role did you have in ensuring that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's    | 11:46:47 |\n| 5  | lifestyle needs were paid for?                          | 11:46:53 |\n| 6  | A.<br>What role I ensured with?<br>I mean, sorry.       | 11:46:55 |\n| 7  | That's -- that's the question you were                  | 11:47:05 |\n| 8  | asking for; right?                                      | 11:47:06 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                       | 11:47:08 |\n| 10 | And I'll try one more time in English, and              | 11:47:08 |\n| 11 | then we might need to use Ms. Johnston.                 | 11:47:11 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Yes, please.                                      | 11:47:15 |\n| 13 | I feel the same.                                        | 11:47:16 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>It's okay.<br>I'll try it one more time.          | 11:47:17 |\n| 15 | You have stated that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you             | 11:47:21 |\n| 16 | instruction to take care of his father, I mean, more    | 11:47:25 |\n| 17 | or less.<br>You don't remember exactly when he gave you | 11:47:35 |\n| 18 | that instruction, but it was a long time ago.           | 11:47:37 |\n| 19 | Have I got that right so far?                           | 11:47:41 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 11:47:43 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And I'm asking now, in your role as      | 11:47:47 |\n| 22 | president, and all those other titles, of               | 11:48:00 |\n| 23 | Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what did you do to    | 11:48:03 |\n| 24 | ensure that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his lifestyle needs     | 11:48:13 |\n| 25 | were taken care of?<br>Do you understand the question?  | 11:48:20 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 98  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 124\n\n1 A. I believe so. 11:48:27\n\n2 Q. Okay. So what is the answer? 11:48:29\n\n3 A. For example, like, I communicate with 11:48:34\n\n4 Mr. Qiang Guo about the fund, including this depo. 11:48:42\n\n5 He take care of the request and then make sure the 11:48:52\n\n6 funds in there to take care of his father. 11:49:01\n\nof 280\n\n| 7  | Q.<br>We're going to -- we're going to talk about    | 11:49:04 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 8  | the fund in just a moment.<br>But you mentioned      | 11:49:10 |\n| 9  | lifestyle needs earlier, things like clothing, food, | 11:49:14 |\n| 10 | transportation -- basics.                            | 11:49:22 |\n| 11 | As president of Golden Spring (New York)             | 11:49:29 |\n|    |                                                      |          |\n\n13 those things for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 11:49:39 14 A. Yes. 11:49:45 15 Q. Please tell me what you did. 11:49:46 16 A. Like, I will review the bills and verify -- 11:49:52 17 if there is any need to verify -- and process the 11:50:03 18 payment in clothing. 11:50:07 19 Q. What types of bills? 11:50:08 20 A. Like, clothes. Like, food -- grocery food. 11:50:11 21 Q. And -- and are these credit card bills or 11:50:19 22 are they receipts directly from the vendor or what? 11:50:21\n\n12 Limited, were you involved in paying for or providing 11:49:31\n\n## 23 A. I believe they are both. 11:50:26 24 Q. Okay. 11:50:28 25 A. It is a mixed. 11:50:29\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 125 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Who do you receive those from?                  | 11:50:31 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Which bill you were talking about, sir?         | 11:50:33 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Any of the above.                               | 11:50:38 |\n| 4  | A.<br>I mean, some of them, they go through from      | 11:50:41 |\n| 5  | the card.<br>Some of them we received it from the --  | 11:50:45 |\n| 6  | the vendor.                                           | 11:50:48 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>How many of those bills do you         | 11:50:50 |\n| 8  | receive from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok directly?                | 11:50:56 |\n| 9  | A.<br>Directly?<br>I don't recall.                    | 11:50:59 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>How do you know whether -- any of the           | 11:51:06 |\n| 11 | expenses that you review to take care of              | 11:51:10 |\n| 12 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle, how do you know or       | 11:51:14 |\n| 13 | verify, as you said, whether any of them are actually | 11:51:19 |\n| 14 | his?                                                  | 11:51:23 |\n| 15 | A.<br>I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo, he requested             | 11:51:25 |\n| 16 | Golden Spring to take care of both his parents; so    | 11:51:32 |\n| 17 | I mean, only, like, is -- is clarified, like this is  | 11:51:38 |\n| 18 | his father's clothes and then we obviously will       | 11:51:45 |\n| 19 | verify from that.<br>Like --                          | 11:51:48 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>And --                                          | 11:51:51 |\n| 21 | A.<br>-- grocery bill, I think it is more, like,      | 11:51:52 |\n| 22 | mixed for the mom and that.                           | 11:51:55 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And, number one, how do you know that  | 11:51:57 |\n| 24 | it is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's clothing that is being        | 11:52:01 |\n| 25 | purchased?<br>How do you verify that?                 | 11:52:05 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 100 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 126 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I verifying with the vendor directly.           | 11:52:07 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>And -- huh.                                     | 11:52:13 |\n| 3  | So you -- you ask a vendor whether the                | 11:52:19 |\n| 4  | clothing was purchased by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?            | 11:52:22 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Yeah.<br>Because the man's clothes, the         | 11:52:27 |\n| 6  | women's clothes are pretty obvious; right?            | 11:52:32 |\n| 7  | But I do need to verify, yes.                         | 11:52:35 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>I get the difference between men's     | 11:52:38 |\n| 9  | and women's clothes.                                  | 11:52:42 |\n| 10 | So is it the case that any -- any -- any              | 11:52:44 |\n| 11 | charge that is obviously for men's clothing you       | 11:52:49 |\n| 12 | assume is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, and any charge that is for | 11:52:53 |\n| 13 | women's clothing you assume is for his wife?          | 11:52:59 |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't assume.<br>I mean, I have to verify     | 11:53:04 |\n| 15 | because I need to report back the funds; right?<br>-- | 11:53:07 |\n| 16 | the financials to the owner of the company clearly -- | 11:53:15 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Absolutely.                                     | 11:53:18 |\n| 18 | A.<br>-- so I verify.                                 | 11:53:19 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Absolutely.                                     | 11:53:20 |\n| 20 | A.<br>So I verify.                                    | 11:53:21 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Let's -- do you -- do you review any credit     | 11:53:22 |\n| 22 | card bills as part of that process?                   | 11:53:25 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Sometimes.                                      | 11:53:29 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And when you re- -- when you review    | 11:53:30 |\n| 25 | a credit card bill, let's just pretend there is       | 11:53:35 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 101 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 127 of 280\n\n| 1  |             | a charge on there for -- yeah, I don't know -- a stay | 11:53:39 |\n|----|-------------|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | in a hotel. | Let's just take that as an example.                   | 11:53:45 |\n| 3  |             | How do you verify who made the charge?                | 11:53:48 |\n| 4  | A.          | Like, a hotel, you mean; right?<br>For an             | 11:53:54 |\n| 5  | example.    |                                                       | 11:54:02 |\n| 6  | Q.          | I'm taking that as an example.                        | 11:54:02 |\n| 7  | A.          | If hotel, we obviously, Golden Spring, will           | 11:54:05 |\n| 8  |             | call the hotel to verify.                             | 11:54:09 |\n| 9  | Q.          | To verify that the charge was made?                   | 11:54:10 |\n| 10 | A.          | Yes.                                                  | 11:54:14 |\n| 11 |             | That is part of internal, I mean, audit.              | 11:54:14 |\n| 12 |             | It -- it is normal.                                   | 11:54:18 |\n| 13 | Q.          | Okay.<br>So how about figuring out who used           | 11:54:19 |\n| 14 |             | the credit card?<br>How would you do that?            | 11:54:23 |\n| 15 | A.          | You -- I don't follow your question, sir.             | 11:54:26 |\n| 16 |             | Who used credit cards?<br>You mean                    | 11:54:34 |\n| 17 |             | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, how he used credit card; right?      | 11:54:36 |\n| 18 | Q.          | Sure.                                                 | 11:54:40 |\n| 19 |             | That -- that is -- that is a possibility,             | 11:54:41 |\n| 20 |             | but I don't know.<br>I'm asking you.                  | 11:54:43 |\n| 21 | A.          | No.                                                   | 11:54:45 |\n| 22 |             | He doesn't use Golden Spring's credit cards.          | 11:54:45 |\n| 23 | Q.          | Does Golden Spring have credit cards?                 | 11:54:48 |\n| 24 | A.          | We have debit card.                                   | 11:54:51 |\n| 25 | Q.          | Okay.<br>Does Golden Spring have any credit           | 11:54:53 |\n|    |             |                                                       | Page 102 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 128 of 280\n\n| 1  | cards?                                             | 11:54:58 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>As of now, no.                               | 11:55:00 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Does Mr. Kwok have access to the    | 11:55:03 |\n| 4  | Golden Spring debit card?                          | 11:55:12 |\n| 5  | A.<br>No.                                          | 11:55:15 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>What about his wife?<br>Does he [sic] have   | 11:55:15 |\n| 7  | access to the Golden Spring debit card?            | 11:55:18 |\n| 8  | A.<br>I don't recall.                              | 11:55:21 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>You are the treasurer of Golden Spring       | 11:55:25 |\n| 10 | (New York) Limited; right?                         | 11:55:33 |\n| 11 | A.<br>Yes.                                         | 11:55:36 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>You -- you really don't know whether         | 11:55:38 |\n| 13 | Ho Wan Kwok's wife has access to the company debit | 11:55:43 |\n| 14 | card?                                              | 11:55:48 |\n| 15 | A.<br>She had one before, but I'm not sure whether | 11:55:49 |\n| 16 | that one is still activated.                       | 11:55:53 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>When did she have one?                       | 11:55:56 |\n| 18 | A.<br>Long time ago.                               | 11:55:58 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Can you do better than that?                 | 11:56:00 |\n| 20 | A.<br>What do you mean, can I do better than that, | 11:56:05 |\n| 21 | sir?                                               | 11:56:10 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>You know what I mean.                        | 11:56:10 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                           | 11:56:12 |\n| 24 | Can you please ask the witness directly what       | 11:56:15 |\n| 25 | your question is?                                  | 11:56:17 |\n|    |                                                    | Page 103 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 129 of 280\n\n| 1  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sure.<br>Sure.                        | 11:56:19 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | I'm sorry to be cute.                                 | 11:56:21 |\n| 3  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 11:56:22 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, can you give us a more precise        | 11:56:23 |\n| 5  | date range during which Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife had    | 11:56:28 |\n| 6  | access to the Golden Spring (New York) debit card?    | 11:56:32 |\n| 7  | A.<br>I don't recall, sir.                            | 11:56:38 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Do you recall the last time that she --         | 11:56:42 |\n| 9  | meaning Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife -- used the            | 11:56:46 |\n| 10 | Golden Spring (New York) debit card?                  | 11:56:49 |\n| 11 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                 | 11:56:53 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Did you, as president and treasurer of          | 11:56:54 |\n| 13 | Golden Spring (New York) Limited, authorize           | 11:56:59 |\n| 14 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife to use the Golden Spring       | 11:57:04 |\n| 15 | (New York) debit card?                                | 11:57:09 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Authorized?<br>I believe yes.<br>And            | 11:57:12 |\n| 17 | Mr. Qiang Guo requested Golden Spring to do that.     | 11:57:17 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>But you don't recall when that was?             | 11:57:20 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 11:57:25 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And I believe you testified a moment   | 11:57:27 |\n| 21 | ago that to your knowledge Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has never  | 11:57:34 |\n| 22 | used the Golden Spring (New York) debit card; is that | 11:57:38 |\n| 23 | correct?                                              | 11:57:43 |\n| 24 | A.<br>He never has Golden Spring (New York) debit     | 11:57:46 |\n| 25 | card at all.                                          | 11:57:51 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 104 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 130 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Has he ever used the debit card number to      | 11:57:55 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | purchase anything, to your knowledge?                | 11:57:58 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I don't know.                                  | 11:58:01 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Has he ever asked you -- \"he\" meaning          | 11:58:03 |\n| 5  | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.                                     | 11:58:08 |\n| 6  | Has he ever asked you to purchase anything           | 11:58:09 |\n| 7  | for him in your capacity as president of             | 11:58:12 |\n| 8  | Golden Spring?                                       | 11:58:15 |\n| 9  | A.<br>I believe so.                                  | 11:58:19 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Can you give us an example of         | 11:58:21 |\n| 11 | anything he has asked you to purchase for him?       | 11:58:25 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I mean, I don't recall the details, but it     | 11:58:29 |\n| 13 | happened.                                            | 11:58:33 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>You don't remember a single thing that         | 11:58:34 |\n| 15 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has asked you to purchase for him?   | 11:58:37 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:58:43 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>How many times has it happened that he has     | 11:58:44 |\n| 18 | asked you to purchase something for him?             | 11:58:49 |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:58:54 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>More than once?                                | 11:58:54 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Correct.                                       | 11:58:57 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>More than a hundred times?                     | 11:58:59 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 11:59:02 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>On the occasions when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has      | 11:59:03 |\n| 25 | asked you to purchase something for him, what do you | 11:59:15 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 105 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 131\n\n1 do? 11:59:18\n\nof 280\n\n2 A. As per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, I help 11:59:20 3 him, yes. I go to buy for him. 11:59:28 4 Q. Okay. Have -- has -- have you ever -- 11:59:32 5 has -- have you ever refused a request from 11:59:37 6 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok that you purchase something for him? 11:59:41\n\n7 A. Yes. 11:59:45 8 Q. When was that? 11:59:46 9 A. I don't recall. But I obviously need to 11:59:48 10 report it to Mr. Qiang Guo, and if he reject it, 11:59:56 11 I will reject. 12:00:01 12 Q. Okay. Is your -- so I want to make sure 12:00:03 13 I understand the process. 12:00:06 14 Is it your testimony that every time 12:00:07 15 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asks you to buy something for him 12:00:10 16 that you consult his son to get permission? Is that 12:00:14 17 correct or not? 12:00:23 18 A. Not every time. Like, as you said, for 12:00:23 19 example, buy coffee; right? 12:00:27 20 Obviously I don't need to consult with 12:00:28 21 Mr. Qiang Guo. 12:00:30 22 Q. Okay. How do you decide when to consult 12:00:32 23 with Mr. Kwok Ho Wan's son about a purchase that 12:00:35 24 Mr. Kwok Ho Wan wants you to make? 12:00:43 25 A. I don't recall. But that happened. 12:00:46 Page 106\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 132 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Do you have any -- any thoughts about that?     | 12:00:49 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Like, a legal fee?                              | 12:00:53 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>No.                                             | 12:00:57 |\n| 4  | I'm -- I'm just asking you in general.<br>I'm         | 12:00:58 |\n| 5  | not asking you about legal fees yet, although         | 12:01:00 |\n| 6  | hopefully we will get there.                          | 12:01:05 |\n| 7  | I'm asking you about in general if                    | 12:01:06 |\n| 8  | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok says, hey, Yvette, I would like you   | 12:01:08 |\n| 9  | to buy me X, how do you know whether just to buy X or | 12:01:14 |\n| 10 | whether to get his son's permission?<br>How do you    | 12:01:21 |\n| 11 | decide?                                               | 12:01:30 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Well, yearly, like, his food and his coffee     | 12:01:30 |\n| 13 | and then his transportation, those lifestyle were     | 12:01:34 |\n| 14 | already approved by Mr. Qiang Guo; so you already --  | 12:01:40 |\n| 15 | Golden Spring just to go ahead to buy or purchase and | 12:01:44 |\n| 16 | then report back to Mr. Qiang Guo; so anything        | 12:01:49 |\n| 17 | except -- besides -- except which words?<br>Except    | 12:01:53 |\n| 18 | that, we obviously, Golden Spring, need to escalate   | 12:01:57 |\n| 19 | to Mr. Qiang Guo to get approval.                     | 12:02:02 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Understood.                                     | 12:02:04 |\n| 21 | And so if I -- if I have you correctly,               | 12:02:05 |\n| 22 | things like food, clothing, transportation -- those   | 12:02:08 |\n| 23 | things do not require specific approval of            | 12:02:15 |\n| 24 | Mr. Qiang Guo and, in your mind, you can just buy     | 12:02:19 |\n| 25 | them for Mr. Kwok without getting his permission.     | 12:02:26 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 107 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 133 of 280\n\n| 1  |            | Have I got that right?                               | 12:02:29 |\n|----|------------|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.         | Yeah.<br>That is the instruction was given to        | 12:02:31 |\n| 3  |            | Golden Spring; so --                                 | 12:02:34 |\n| 4  | Q.         | And is this --                                       | 12:02:35 |\n| 5  | A.         | -- we just go buy.                                   | 12:02:38 |\n| 6  | Q.         | Is that true, no matter how expensive the            | 12:02:40 |\n| 7  | item is?   |                                                      | 12:02:42 |\n| 8  | A.         | Sir, what -- what is your range about                | 12:02:44 |\n| 9  | expensive? | I mean --                                            | 12:02:48 |\n| 10 | Q.         | Well, let's take -- let's take                       | 12:02:50 |\n| 11 |            | transportation as an example.                        | 12:02:53 |\n| 12 |            | Are you aware that -- that Mr. Kwok                  | 12:02:54 |\n| 13 |            | frequently travels in a Maybach limousine?           | 12:02:57 |\n| 14 | A.         | Am I aware?<br>What do you mean am I aware?          | 12:03:05 |\n| 15 | Q.         | Do you know -- do you know what a limousine          | 12:03:09 |\n| 16 | is?        |                                                      | 12:03:12 |\n| 17 | A.         | Limo, yes.<br>I do know.                             | 12:03:13 |\n| 18 | Q.         | Okay.<br>And do you know what a Maybach is?          | 12:03:15 |\n| 19 | A.         | Yes.                                                 | 12:03:18 |\n| 20 | Q.         | Okay.<br>Is it a type of car; right?                 | 12:03:19 |\n| 21 | A.         | Correct.                                             | 12:03:22 |\n| 22 | Q.         | Isn't it true that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok                   | 12:03:22 |\n| 23 |            | frequently travels by Maybach?                       | 12:03:27 |\n| 24 | A.         | Sir -- sir, I know Mileson want his father           | 12:03:32 |\n| 25 |            | to be safe and secured; so that is the thing I know. | 12:03:38 |\n|    |            |                                                      | Page 108 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 134 of 280\n\n| 1  | But I don't know, like, frequency.<br>I use that.     | 12:03:43 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Obviously, I am not following his father every day.   | 12:03:48 |\n| 3  | I cannot tell that.                                   | 12:03:50 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Does -- does Golden Spring -- I'll ask you      | 12:03:51 |\n| 5  | to accept for purposes of this deposition today --    | 12:03:54 |\n| 6  | just take my word for it that within the last month   | 12:03:59 |\n| 7  | Mr. Kwok has traveled at least once by Maybach.       | 12:04:02 |\n| 8  | Okay?                                                 | 12:04:08 |\n| 9  | Let's just assume that.                               | 12:04:08 |\n| 10 | My question for you is is that Maybach                | 12:04:11 |\n| 11 | transportation that Golden Spring (New York) has paid | 12:04:17 |\n| 12 | for?                                                  | 12:04:19 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Golden Spring (New York) pays -- pays the --    | 12:04:21 |\n| 14 | the gasolines and -- yeah.<br>The gasolines.<br>That  | 12:04:24 |\n| 15 | is --                                                 | 12:04:31 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Does --                                         | 12:04:31 |\n| 17 | A.<br>-- what transportation we are paying.           | 12:04:32 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Does Golden Spring (New York) own any           | 12:04:35 |\n| 19 | Maybach vehicles?                                     | 12:04:36 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Oh, I -- I couldn't remember, like, if          | 12:04:38 |\n| 21 | Maybach owned by Golden Spring or not.<br>I mean,     | 12:04:47 |\n| 22 | Golden Spring owns a couple of cars.<br>They all      | 12:04:50 |\n| 23 | ultimately owned by Mr. Qiang Guo.                    | 12:04:53 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>I get that.                            | 12:04:56 |\n| 25 | Tell me about the cars that Golden Spring             | 12:04:57 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 109 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 135 of 280\n\n| 1  | owns.<br>You just mentioned that there are a couple. | 12:04:59 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | What are they?                                       | 12:05:06 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I'm not car person; so I have to find out.     | 12:05:07 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Are they nice cars?                   | 12:05:11 |\n| 5  | A.<br>I cannot tell.                                 | 12:05:14 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>And you don't know whether one of the cars     | 12:05:16 |\n| 7  | that Golden Spring (New York) owns is a Maybach; is  | 12:05:20 |\n| 8  | that right?                                          | 12:05:24 |\n| 9  | A.<br>I don't know because this is Mr. Mileson,      | 12:05:26 |\n| 10 | like Mr. Qiang Guo, he purchased directly.           | 12:05:31 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Yeah.                                          | 12:05:34 |\n| 12 | A.<br>So I'm not --                                  | 12:05:35 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>I -- I -- I understand.                        | 12:05:36 |\n| 14 | But I'm asking about Golden Spring                   | 12:05:37 |\n| 15 | (New York).                                          | 12:05:40 |\n| 16 | Okay?                                                | 12:05:40 |\n| 17 | I'm asking about Golden Spring (New York)            | 12:05:41 |\n| 18 | Limited, of which you are the president, treasurer,  | 12:05:44 |\n| 19 | secretary, and director.<br>I'm asking if you know   | 12:05:48 |\n| 20 | whether Golden Spring (New York) Limited owns        | 12:05:52 |\n| 21 | a Maybach automobile.                                | 12:05:55 |\n| 22 | Do you know?                                         | 12:05:57 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>I have to find out.         | 12:05:59 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>You have also told me that            | 12:06:02 |\n| 25 | Golden Spring (New York) pays for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's  | 12:06:07 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 110 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 136 of 280\n\n| 1  | transportation; right?                               | 12:06:13 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Correct.                                       | 12:06:15 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>And that would include transportation by       | 12:06:16 |\n| 4  | car; correct?                                        | 12:06:20 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Correct.                                       | 12:06:22 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>That would include arranging for a leased      | 12:06:24 |\n| 7  | vehicle if that is how he wanted to travel; correct? | 12:06:32 |\n| 8  | A.<br>We pay the gasoline.                           | 12:06:37 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>I heard that.<br>I'm just trying to   | 12:06:42 |\n| 10 | figure out who owns the vehicle, Ms. Wang.           | 12:06:45 |\n| 11 | Do you know whether Golden Spring (New York)         | 12:06:49 |\n| 12 | Limited has rented or leased a Maybach in order to   | 12:06:52 |\n| 13 | transport Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>Do you know?           | 12:06:57 |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't know.                                  | 12:07:02 |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH:<br>So Mr. -- Mr. Rosen, I'll take       | 12:07:10 |\n| 16 | the witness up on her offer to get back to us on the | 12:07:15 |\n| 17 | types of cars that Golden Spring (New York) owns,    | 12:07:19 |\n| 18 | and, in particular, whether they own any Maybach     | 12:07:24 |\n| 19 | automobiles, if that is okay with you.               | 12:07:28 |\n| 20 | MR. ROSEN:<br>We'll take it under advisement.        | 12:07:31 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.                                | 12:07:33 |\n| 22 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Your request is -- is noted.           | 12:07:33 |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH:<br>All right.<br>Thank you.             | 12:07:38 |\n| 24 | THE WITNESS:<br>Sir, can we have a break?            | 12:07:49 |\n| 25 | I mean, it is 12:00.                                 | 12:07:51 |\n|    |                                                      |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 137\n\n1 BY MR. HARBACH: 12:07:53\n\n2 Q. Sure. 12:07:53\n\n3 A. I do need a lunch break, yeah. 12:07:53\n\n4 Q. If -- if you would like to take a break now, 12:07:56\n\n5 that is no problem at all. 12:07:58\n\nof 280\n\n6 MR. HARBACH: I don't know if Suzanne or 12:08:02\n\n| 7  | Jeff who takes us off, but I will suggest reconvening | 12:08:03 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 8  | at -- at 1:00 o'clock.                                | 12:08:08 |\n| 9  | Is that amenable to folks?                            | 12:08:10 |\n| 10 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes.                                    | 12:08:13 |\n| 11 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.                                 | 12:08:15 |\n| 12 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are going off the             | 12:08:16 |\n| 13 | record.                                               | 12:08:17 |\n| 14 | The time is 12:08.                                    | 12:08:17 |\n| 15 | (Luncheon recess taken.)                              | 13:01:33 |\n| 16 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are back on the               | 13:01:33 |\n| 17 | record.                                               | 13:01:36 |\n| 18 | The time is 1:01.                                     | 13:01:36 |\n| 19 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 13:01:40 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Good afternoon, Ms. Wang -- Ms. Wang.           | 13:01:46 |\n| 21 | One little loose end that has nothing to do           | 13:01:48 |\n| 22 | with what I was asking you about before lunch.        | 13:01:53 |\n| 23 | Okay?<br>Do you know someone called Yu Yong?          | 13:01:56 |\n| 24 | That is Y-u Y-o-n-g.                                  | 13:02:02 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:02:09 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 112 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 138 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Who is that person?                   | 13:02:10 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I met her in New York before.                  | 13:02:13 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you know what she does for         | 13:02:17 |\n| 4  | a living?                                            | 13:02:25 |\n| 5  | A.<br>When I met with her, she was working           | 13:02:26 |\n| 6  | together with the family also.                       | 13:02:29 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>The -- the Guo family?                         | 13:02:30 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 13:02:34 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>With whom specifically?                        | 13:02:35 |\n| 10 | A.<br>With Mr. Qiang Guo.                            | 13:02:38 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Anyone else?                                   | 13:02:44 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I believe with -- with Mr. Qiang Guo's         | 13:02:45 |\n| 13 | father together --                                   | 13:02:49 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>And --                                         | 13:02:51 |\n| 15 | A.<br>-- but I don't have the details.               | 13:02:52 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And approximately when was that that  | 13:02:54 |\n| 17 | you met her?                                         | 13:02:57 |\n| 18 | A.<br>2015.                                          | 13:02:58 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Thank you.                            | 13:03:01 |\n| 20 | A new subject.                                       | 13:03:04 |\n| 21 | Who set up Golden Spring (New York) Limited?         | 13:03:07 |\n| 22 | A.<br>In my understanding, it was set up by          | 13:03:13 |\n| 23 | Mr. Qiang Guo.                                       | 13:03:19 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Who -- when you say it is your                 | 13:03:20 |\n| 25 | understanding, do you know that or did somebody tell | 13:03:23 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 113 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 139\n\n1 you that? 13:03:26\n\n2 A. This is I learned afterwards. I believe 13:03:27\n\nof 280\n\n3 there will be -- there will be law firms supporting 13:03:31\n\n| 4  | by him, but he set up the company.                   | 13:03:34 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 5  | Q.<br>Why did he set up the company?                 | 13:03:37 |\n| 6  | A.<br>I got to know later on -- not, like, when he   | 13:03:39 |\n| 7  | set up the company -- he was trying to do business   | 13:03:46 |\n| 8  | outside of China, like, mainly in the U.S. here.     | 13:03:50 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>What sort of business?                         | 13:03:54 |\n| 10 | A.<br>Like, business related to real estate,         | 13:03:56 |\n| 11 | investment -- like a diversified business.           | 13:04:02 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Who funded Golden Spring (New York)   | 13:04:06 |\n| 13 | when it was created?                                 | 13:04:11 |\n| 14 | A.<br>I learned afterwards Mr. Qiang Guo, he         | 13:04:12 |\n| 15 | arranged the fund -- fund the Golden Spring.         | 13:04:22 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>When you say he arranged it, do you mean       | 13:04:26 |\n| 17 | that he, himself, provided the money?                | 13:04:29 |\n| 18 | A.<br>Hmmm.<br>No.                                   | 13:04:34 |\n| 19 | He arranged via his -- another company.              | 13:04:35 |\n| 20 | I believe it is called Bravo Luck.                   | 13:04:40 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>I see.                                         | 13:04:44 |\n| 22 | And so your understanding is that the money          | 13:04:45 |\n| 23 | that funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it | 13:04:48 |\n| 24 | was created came from Bravo Luck?                    | 13:04:55 |\n| 25 | A.<br>That is what I learned.                        | 13:05:00 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 114 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 140\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>From whom?                                      | 13:05:01 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>From Mr. Qiang Guo.                             | 13:05:03 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok         | 13:05:05 |\n| 4  | about Bravo Luck?                                     | 13:05:10 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Hmmm.<br>I don't recall.                        | 13:05:13 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok         | 13:05:16 |\n| 7  | about the source of money that was used to fund       | 13:05:20 |\n| 8  | Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it was created? | 13:05:24 |\n| 9  | A.<br>No.                                             | 13:05:28 |\n| 10 | I don't recall I did that.                            | 13:05:30 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Do you know how Bravo Luck got the money        | 13:05:34 |\n| 12 | that you say funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited? | 13:05:41 |\n| 13 | A.<br>I don't know.                                   | 13:05:44 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>What is -- what was Golden Spring               | 13:05:47 |\n| 15 | (New York)'s business purpose when it was created?    | 13:05:54 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Oh, Golden Spring was created as a family       | 13:05:57 |\n| 17 | office owned by Mr. Qiang Guo; so Mr. Qiang Guo was   | 13:06:04 |\n| 18 | planning, as I said, to develop and expand the        | 13:06:09 |\n| 19 | business in the United States, including, like, as    | 13:06:14 |\n| 20 | I said, investment, real estate, and the business     | 13:06:21 |\n| 21 | he -- he was doing by then.                           | 13:06:25 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Where does Mr. Qiang Guo live today?<br>What    | 13:06:28 |\n| 23 | country?                                              | 13:06:33 |\n| 24 | A.<br>He lives in UK.                                 | 13:06:38 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>How long has he lived there?                    | 13:06:41 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 115 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 141 of 280\n\n| 1  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>What is the -- what         | 13:06:44 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | is the relevance of this, David?                        | 13:06:46 |\n| 3  | MR. HARBACH:<br>I'm trying to explore the               | 13:06:49 |\n| 4  | witness' most recent answer about the business          | 13:06:52 |\n| 5  | purpose of Golden Spring.<br>She said that he -- that   | 13:06:55 |\n| 6  | he, Qiang Guo, created it to do X, Y, and Z.<br>And I'm | 13:06:59 |\n| 7  | trying to inquire about how long he was actually in     | 13:07:05 |\n| 8  | the country after Golden Spring was created.<br>That is | 13:07:09 |\n| 9  | why I'm asking.                                         | 13:07:12 |\n| 10 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Just note for the record that we          | 13:07:13 |\n| 11 | are all here in different locations at this             | 13:07:14 |\n| 12 | deposition.<br>And in today's world where your -- where | 13:07:18 |\n| 13 | your seat is doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot.      | 13:07:23 |\n| 14 | But with that said, I would instruct the                | 13:07:26 |\n| 15 | witness to answer.                                      | 13:07:29 |\n| 16 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 13:07:30 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>The -- the question was when -- or how long       | 13:07:30 |\n| 18 | has Mr. Qiang Guo lived in the UK.                      | 13:07:36 |\n| 19 | A.<br>For years.<br>I mean --                           | 13:07:40 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Are you finished with your answer?                | 13:07:51 |\n| 21 | You said for years, maybe?                              | 13:08:03 |\n| 22 | A.<br>My -- my answer was not four, f-o-u-r, as         | 13:08:04 |\n| 23 | years.<br>This is my answer.                            | 13:08:04 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>All right.                                        | 13:08:04 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I don't know how many, yeah.                      | 13:08:06 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 116 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 142\n\n| C T | 00 |  |\n|-----|----|--|\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>You don't know how many years?                  | 13:08:06 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 13:08:08 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Could it be more than ten years?                | 13:08:09 |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't think so.                               | 13:08:11 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>How long, if -- if you know, how long after     | 13:08:13 |\n| 6  | Golden Spring (New York) Limited was created did      | 13:08:24 |\n| 7  | Mr. Guo -- Qiang Guo move to the UK?                  | 13:08:28 |\n| 8  | A.<br>I cannot recall.                                | 13:08:34 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>All right.<br>Do you know -- what can you tell  | 13:08:40 |\n| 10 | us about what Golden Spring (New York) Limited has    | 13:08:47 |\n| 11 | done to advance the business purposes you just        | 13:08:50 |\n| 12 | described?                                            | 13:08:55 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Mr. Qiang Guo was in the United States in       | 13:08:55 |\n| 14 | 2015, and then he travels a lot also.<br>And,         | 13:09:05 |\n| 15 | obviously, he set up the company, and then we develop | 13:09:12 |\n| 16 | business structure and plan from there; so that is    | 13:09:16 |\n| 17 | still his direction, which we have been doing until   | 13:09:22 |\n| 18 | his father started to do his whistle-blower moment.   | 13:09:28 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>What was the business plan in the beginning?    | 13:09:33 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Investment.                                     | 13:09:37 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>In, I believe, you mentioned real      | 13:09:41 |\n| 22 | estate.                                               | 13:09:48 |\n| 23 | What else?                                            | 13:09:48 |\n| 24 | A.<br>We started from real estate.<br>There was real  | 13:09:49 |\n| 25 | estate, like, investment.                             | 13:09:53 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 117 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 143 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So any other business purpose,          | 13:09:54 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | besides investing money?                               | 13:09:57 |\n| 3  | A.<br>And operate as a family office in New York       | 13:10:00 |\n| 4  | here to support other family projects.                 | 13:10:09 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>You have mentioned earlier the          | 13:10:15 |\n| 6  | support of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.                            | 13:10:19 |\n| 7  | What other family projects has Golden Spring           | 13:10:23 |\n| 8  | (New York) Limited supported?                          | 13:10:27 |\n| 9  | A.<br>Including their project -- real estate.          | 13:10:29 |\n| 10 | Like, including, like, interviews and handouts.<br>The | 13:10:39 |\n| 11 | architecture, designer, like, real estate-related      | 13:10:45 |\n| 12 | vendors, and then we, like, facilitate and coordinate  | 13:10:50 |\n| 13 | by them.                                               | 13:10:54 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Is Golden Spring (New York) Limited a --         | 13:10:55 |\n| 15 | a for-profit enterprise?                               | 13:10:59 |\n| 16 | A.<br>It is.                                           | 13:11:03 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>And what is its source of income?                | 13:11:03 |\n| 18 | A.<br>Source of income?<br>I mean, we are              | 13:11:08 |\n| 19 | a for-profit company, but we are not turning to,       | 13:11:16 |\n| 20 | like, make revenue yet; so the source of income is     | 13:11:23 |\n| 21 | supposed to be, like, a -- we build up the project     | 13:11:26 |\n| 22 | under the family plan, and then we start to make       | 13:11:31 |\n| 23 | profit from those projects -- investment projects.     | 13:11:36 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So the -- the company invests money     | 13:11:40 |\n| 25 | and hopes to make money from investments.              | 13:11:43 |\n|    |                                                        |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 144 of 280\n\n| 1  | Is that it?                                            | 13:11:47 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>That's part of the source of income, yes.        | 13:11:48 |\n| 3  | Planned.                                               | 13:11:52 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Does the -- does the company, Golden Spring      | 13:11:52 |\n| 5  | (New York) Limited, have any clients?<br>Or is it just | 13:11:57 |\n| 6  | the family?                                            | 13:12:01 |\n| 7  | A.<br>I mean, family office typically, to our          | 13:12:02 |\n| 8  | understanding, is support and serve for the family     | 13:12:08 |\n| 9  | business; so our clients are the family.               | 13:12:13 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And that includes Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,      | 13:12:15 |\n| 11 | does it not?                                           | 13:12:20 |\n| 12 | A.<br>He is the person -- the owner of the company     | 13:12:21 |\n| 13 | requesting Golden Spring to support; so Golden Spring  | 13:12:28 |\n| 14 | does not, like, plan or, like, having profit from his  | 13:12:31 |\n| 15 | father, which, like, we didn't think about that and    | 13:12:39 |\n| 16 | how; right?                                            | 13:12:43 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Well, you just said a moment ago that            | 13:12:45 |\n| 18 | Golden Spring (New York) limited's clients was the     | 13:12:47 |\n| 19 | family.<br>And I ask you if that included              | 13:12:58 |\n| 20 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.                                       | 13:13:00 |\n| 21 | The reason I asked that question is because            | 13:13:01 |\n| 22 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the family, is he not?  | 13:13:04 |\n| 23 | A.<br>So this is my answer.<br>Golden Spring --        | 13:13:09 |\n| 24 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Hold off answering, please, just         | 13:13:15 |\n| 25 | for a second.                                          | 13:13:18 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 119 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 145 of 280\n\n| 1  | I'd object on the -- on the grounds that I'm            | 13:13:18 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | not sure that your use of the word client is -- is      | 13:13:23 |\n| 3  | being understood.                                       | 13:13:25 |\n| 4  | Could you clarify that, please?                         | 13:13:25 |\n| 5  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sure.                                   | 13:13:29 |\n| 6  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 13:13:32 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, do you know what I mean by the          | 13:13:33 |\n| 8  | word client?                                            | 13:13:36 |\n| 9  | A.<br>Client means that you offer services to get       | 13:13:39 |\n| 10 | paid.                                                   | 13:13:43 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>A moment ago you said that the client    | 13:13:44 |\n| 12 | of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was the family.     | 13:13:51 |\n| 13 | Did you mean that in the sense that you just            | 13:13:55 |\n| 14 | described, or did you mean that in a different way?     | 13:13:59 |\n| 15 | A.<br>I mean the client is the Guo family.              | 13:14:02 |\n| 16 | I mean, they -- they are, as I testified before,        | 13:14:06 |\n| 17 | like, a hundred family member.<br>They all could be our | 13:14:12 |\n| 18 | clients.<br>They are all business people.               | 13:14:15 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Okay.                                             | 13:14:18 |\n| 20 | A.<br>So as a client of Golden Spring, which            | 13:14:19 |\n| 21 | I mean.                                                 | 13:14:22 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you mean that members of the          | 13:14:23 |\n| 23 | family pay Golden Spring?                               | 13:14:25 |\n| 24 | A.<br>I mean if Golden Spring offered a service         | 13:14:31 |\n| 25 | and then helped them to invest successfully, yes.       | 13:14:34 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 120 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 146\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | Golden Spring would be paid.                           | 13:14:39 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So now my question is is                | 13:14:40 |\n| 3  | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok part of the family that is a client    | 13:14:45 |\n| 4  | of Golden Spring (New York) Limited?                   | 13:14:50 |\n| 5  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection to form.                       | 13:14:54 |\n| 6  | It -- the -- is your question is he                    | 13:14:58 |\n| 7  | individually a client?<br>Because what you asked is is | 13:15:01 |\n| 8  | he part of the family that is a client.                | 13:15:05 |\n| 9  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Well, I'm sorry for -- for --          | 13:15:08 |\n| 10 | I'm really not meaning to be confusing.                | 13:15:11 |\n| 11 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 13:15:14 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>I understood, Ms. Wang, you to say a moment      | 13:15:14 |\n| 13 | ago that the family -- which is composed of numerous   | 13:15:17 |\n| 14 | people, you said.                                      | 13:15:22 |\n| 15 | That the family is a client of Golden Spring           | 13:15:22 |\n| 16 | (New York) Limited; is that correct?                   | 13:15:26 |\n| 17 | A.<br>The family and their family member who are       | 13:15:29 |\n| 18 | the business people; correct?                          | 13:15:36 |\n| 19 | They are the Golden Spring's clients.<br>Of            | 13:15:37 |\n| 20 | course, I don't mean that like in the minor kids;      | 13:15:40 |\n| 21 | right?                                                 | 13:15:44 |\n| 22 | So I made that very clear.                             | 13:15:44 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok a member of that family?      | 13:15:46 |\n| 24 | A.<br>He is one of the family member, yes.             | 13:15:50 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>To your knowledge, has Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever      | 13:15:53 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 121 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 147 of 280\n\n| 1  | contributed or paid any money to Golden Spring          | 13:16:06 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | (New York) Limited?                                     | 13:16:11 |\n| 3  | A.<br>No.                                               | 13:16:13 |\n| 4  | To my knowledge.                                        | 13:16:16 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>To your knowledge, has any business               | 13:16:17 |\n| 6  | organization that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok owns or controls      | 13:16:26 |\n| 7  | ever contributed any money to Golden Spring             | 13:16:32 |\n| 8  | (New York) Limited?                                     | 13:16:36 |\n| 9  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                                | 13:16:39 |\n| 10 | You can answer the question.                            | 13:16:40 |\n| 11 | THE WITNESS:<br>To my knowledge, no.                    | 13:16:42 |\n| 12 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 13:16:45 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>And you -- as the treasurer of Golden Spring      | 13:16:49 |\n| 14 | (New York) Limited, would that be something you would   | 13:16:53 |\n| 15 | expect to know if it had happened?                      | 13:16:56 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Since I was --                                    | 13:16:59 |\n| 17 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Object.                                   | 13:17:03 |\n| 18 | You can answer.                                         | 13:17:04 |\n| 19 | THE WITNESS:<br>Since I was appointed of                | 13:17:07 |\n| 20 | treasurer of Golden Spring, I didn't see any money      | 13:17:11 |\n| 21 | come from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>And Golden Spring doesn't | 13:17:13 |\n| 22 | look at him as a client; so he is a family member,      | 13:17:17 |\n| 23 | but he is not our kind of like prospective client.      | 13:17:21 |\n| 24 | He is the owner.<br>He is the father of the owner,      | 13:17:25 |\n| 25 | like, it -- that's our understanding.                   | 13:17:31 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 148 of 280\n\n| 1  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 13:17:32 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>He, in fact, is the owner, isn't he,            | 13:17:33 |\n| 3  | Ms. Wang?                                             | 13:17:36 |\n| 4  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                              | 13:17:37 |\n| 5  | THE WITNESS:<br>He is not the owner at all.           | 13:17:38 |\n| 6  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 13:17:42 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Were you an employee or a director or           | 13:17:46 |\n| 8  | officer of Golden Spring at the time that it was      | 13:17:53 |\n| 9  | created?                                              | 13:17:56 |\n| 10 | A.<br>You mean back to 2015, sir?                     | 13:18:00 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:18:04 |\n| 12 | A.<br>No.                                             | 13:18:05 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Returning to my question about Golden Spring    | 13:18:06 |\n| 14 | (New York) Limited's source of income, is there       | 13:18:16 |\n| 15 | anything else in that category, other than returns on | 13:18:22 |\n| 16 | investment?                                           | 13:18:26 |\n| 17 | A.<br>What do you mean?<br>Like any other source of   | 13:18:28 |\n| 18 | income besides what I reply to you before?            | 13:18:38 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:18:41 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Okay.<br>So that would be our major source of   | 13:18:42 |\n| 21 | income.<br>Like, a family office -- I mean, in my     | 13:18:45 |\n| 22 | understanding you already do investment; so when you  | 13:18:51 |\n| 23 | investment, you get revenue, and then we got paid,    | 13:18:54 |\n| 24 | and so we got.                                        | 13:18:57 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>I understand that.                              | 13:18:57 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 123 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 149 of 280\n\n| 1  | I'm asking you whether there was anything             | 13:18:58 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | else.                                                 | 13:19:00 |\n| 3  | A.<br>As far as I know, like, that is all I know.     | 13:19:03 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 13:19:08 |\n| 5  | A.<br>That is the plan.<br>I mean, as a family        | 13:19:09 |\n| 6  | office -- right? -- we are supposed to do investment  | 13:19:12 |\n| 7  | and make revenue -- make revenue.<br>I mean, I am not | 13:19:15 |\n| 8  | a law firm.<br>I am not other, you know, service      | 13:19:18 |\n| 9  | company.<br>And then any other source of income       | 13:19:20 |\n| 10 | I should be expect.                                   | 13:19:22 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Does Golden Spring (New York) Limited have      | 13:19:24 |\n| 12 | any bank accounts?                                    | 13:19:28 |\n| 13 | A.<br>You are asking which time apparent, sir?        | 13:19:30 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>I'm asking currently.                           | 13:19:41 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:19:43 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>How many?                                       | 13:19:43 |\n| 17 | A.<br>One.                                            | 13:19:46 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>At which bank?                                  | 13:19:52 |\n| 19 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>There are security        | 13:19:55 |\n| 20 | issues involved here, and we're -- I understand that  | 13:19:59 |\n| 21 | Golden Spring's bank accounts have been shut down as  | 13:20:06 |\n| 22 | part of what has been described to me as a harassment | 13:20:09 |\n| 23 | scheme; so I would ask at this point not to           | 13:20:13 |\n| 24 | disclose -- the witness not to disclose the location  | 13:20:16 |\n| 25 | of the bank account.                                  | 13:20:19 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 150 of 280\n\n| 1  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>Scott, I'm not meaning       | 13:20:20 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | to disregard your instruction.<br>I'm going to ask    | 13:20:25 |\n| 3  | another question, and if you want to include this     | 13:20:28 |\n| 4  | under your objection, please do.<br>But I'm going to  | 13:20:31 |\n| 5  | ask this one.                                         | 13:20:34 |\n| 6  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 13:20:35 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, is Golden Spring (New York)'s bank    | 13:20:35 |\n| 8  | account with a U.S. bank?                             | 13:20:38 |\n| 9  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:20:42 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>What is the approximate current balance in      | 13:20:43 |\n| 11 | that account?                                         | 13:20:54 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I mean, for the safety, same reason.<br>I am    | 13:20:57 |\n| 13 | very hesitant to tell you because PAX already, like,  | 13:21:05 |\n| 14 | harassed all Golden Spring's bank account.            | 13:21:09 |\n| 15 | So we are talking about DIP loan; right?              | 13:21:14 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Well, yeah.                                     | 13:21:18 |\n| 17 | You know the reasons that the -- that the             | 13:21:19 |\n| 18 | deposition has been noticed, and I'm not going to get | 13:21:21 |\n| 19 | into a debate with you about whether the question is  | 13:21:26 |\n| 20 | proper.                                               | 13:21:28 |\n| 21 | My question is what is the approximate                | 13:21:30 |\n| 22 | balance in Golden Spring's one bank account in the    | 13:21:33 |\n| 23 | United States?                                        | 13:21:38 |\n| 24 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'm going to object and would           | 13:21:41 |\n| 25 | like, if it is acceptable to counsel, to take a short | 13:21:44 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 151 of 280\n\n| 1  | recess to discuss this with my client.                | 13:21:50 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Of course.<br>No problem at all.      | 13:21:52 |\n| 3  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are going off the             | 13:21:55 |\n| 4  | record.                                               | 13:21:56 |\n| 5  | The time is 1:21.                                     | 13:21:56 |\n| 6  | (Short recess taken.)                                 | 13:22:00 |\n| 7  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are back on the               | 13:33:59 |\n| 8  | record.                                               | 13:34:01 |\n| 9  | The time is 1:34.                                     | 13:34:01 |\n| 10 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Scott, did you want to put            | 13:34:06 |\n| 11 | anything on the record here or no?                    | 13:34:11 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN:<br>No.                                     | 13:34:14 |\n| 13 | I did not need to put anything on the                 | 13:34:15 |\n| 14 | record.                                               | 13:34:18 |\n| 15 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 13:34:18 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Ms. Wang, did you speak with anyone    | 13:34:19 |\n| 17 | else during the break, besides your lawyer?           | 13:34:21 |\n| 18 | A.<br>I only talked with Mr. Scott Rosen.             | 13:34:23 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Thank you.                             | 13:34:25 |\n| 20 | The pending question before the break was             | 13:34:26 |\n| 21 | what is the approximate balance in Golden Spring      | 13:34:31 |\n| 22 | (New York) Limited's one U.S. bank account?           | 13:34:37 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'm going to object and instruct        | 13:34:45 |\n| 24 | the witness not to answer that specific question      | 13:34:47 |\n| 25 | because of Golden Spring's concerns about maintaining | 13:34:50 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 126 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 152 of 280\n\n| 1  | the integrity and usability of the bank account in    | 13:34:54 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | light of credits' rights actions that have been taken | 13:34:58 |\n| 3  | by -- by PAX.                                         | 13:35:03 |\n| 4  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 13:35:05 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Leaving aside the identity of the bank,         | 13:35:06 |\n| 6  | approximately how much value in liquid assets does    | 13:35:11 |\n| 7  | Golden Spring (New York) Limited own?                 | 13:35:20 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Golden Spring as -- I mean, enough funds to     | 13:35:23 |\n| 9  | support Golden Spring, the operation.<br>I mean, we   | 13:35:33 |\n| 10 | don't have cash flow issue, so                        | 13:35:37 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>All right.<br>And your judgment about what      | 13:35:40 |\n| 12 | might be a cash flow issue and our judgment about     | 13:35:44 |\n| 13 | what might be a cash flow issue and Judge Manning's   | 13:35:48 |\n| 14 | judgment about what might be a cash flow issue could  | 13:35:54 |\n| 15 | be three very different things.                       | 13:35:57 |\n| 16 | And so that is why I'm asking approximately           | 13:35:59 |\n| 17 | how much money in liquid assets does Golden Spring    | 13:36:03 |\n| 18 | (New York) Limited own?                               | 13:36:09 |\n| 19 | A.<br>The balance is changing every day because       | 13:36:12 |\n| 20 | things happen every day; so I don't want to           | 13:36:19 |\n| 21 | speculate.<br>Obviously, I did not check the bank     | 13:36:22 |\n| 22 | balance right now; so I cannot say.                   | 13:36:25 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>What -- what -- when -- when was the last       | 13:36:27 |\n| 24 | time you checked the balance?                         | 13:36:29 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>It is the financial --       | 13:36:30 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 153\n\n| of 280 |  |\n|--------|--|\n|--------|--|\n\n1 finance department, they are doing that. 13:36:34\n\n| 2 | Q.<br>Well, you are the treasurer; right?          | 13:36:37 |\n|---|----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 3 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Excuse me.<br>I thought this was     | 13:36:40 |\n| 4 | questions setting aside the bank account.<br>The   | 13:36:42 |\n| 5 | question was what is -- what are the values of the | 13:36:45 |\n| 6 | liquid assets, setting aside the bank account.     | 13:36:47 |\n| 7 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Yeah.<br>I meant -- and I can't    | 13:36:50 |\n|   |                                                    |          |\n\n liquid assets, setting aside the bank account. 13:36:47 7 MR. HARBACH: Yeah. I meant -- and I can't 13:36:50 believe I said -- if I didn't, I'm mistaken. I meant 13:36:53 the identity of the bank. I'm not -- I'm not 13:36:56 interested in getting the identification of the bank. 13:36:59 I'm just trying to figure out how much money 13:37:02 Golden Spring (New York) Limited has. That's it. 13:37:05 BY MR. HARBACH: 13:37:02 14 Q. How much money does the company have? Do 13:37:11 you know? 13:37:13 16 A. The money enough to support all of the daily 13:37:14 operation. 13:37:18 18 Q. Are you -- are you unwilling to tell me how 13:37:18 much money Golden Spring has or do you not know how 13:37:23 much money Golden Spring has? 13:37:27 21 MR. ROSEN: Yeah. I -- I have to object 13:37:29 here. There are concerns about the integrity and 13:37:31 usability of Golden Spring's assets in light of 13:37:36 creditor activity that has been conducted by PAX; so 13:37:41 these are -- these are sensitive issues. If -- if 13:37:46 Page 128\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 154 of 280\n\n| 1  | you want to get to questions about where is the loan   | 13:37:50 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | proceeds going to come from, then we can -- we can     | 13:37:52 |\n| 3  | certainly go there.<br>But with respect to its current | 13:37:56 |\n| 4  | assets, at this point the credit just -- just          | 13:38:00 |\n| 5  | outweighs any -- any -- any relevancy.                 | 13:38:06 |\n| 6  | MR. HARBACH:<br>I -- I think I understand your         | 13:38:10 |\n| 7  | objection, and rather than engage it fully, I will     | 13:38:13 |\n| 8  | just note that we strongly disagree.<br>But if you are | 13:38:16 |\n| 9  | instructing the witness not to answer, I'll try and    | 13:38:20 |\n| 10 | move on.                                               | 13:38:23 |\n| 11 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Thank you.                               | 13:38:24 |\n| 12 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 13:38:26 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Approximately how much profit did                | 13:38:32 |\n| 14 | Golden Spring (New York) make in the last year?        | 13:38:35 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Because of the -- the entire, like, PAX --       | 13:38:41 |\n| 16 | right? -- this case, I mean, PAX obviously subpoenaed  | 13:38:49 |\n| 17 | all Golden Spring's bank.<br>And then in my            | 13:38:53 |\n| 18 | understanding, my console device, like, PAX didn't     | 13:38:57 |\n| 19 | get anything; so -- because PAX specifically hurt our  | 13:39:01 |\n| 20 | bank relationship in the last year, as you said,       | 13:39:05 |\n| 21 | I mean, we didn't make profit last year.               | 13:39:07 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>You did not make a profit last year?             | 13:39:10 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Correct.                                         | 13:39:14 |\n| 24 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                               | 13:39:16 |\n| 25 | ///                                                    |          |\n|    |                                                        | Page 129 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 155 of 280\n\n| 1  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 13:39:17 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Was there a -- was there a loss of -- of --      | 13:39:18 |\n| 3  | there was a loss of approximately how much last year?  | 13:39:20 |\n| 4  | Do you understand the question?                        | 13:39:33 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Of course.                                       | 13:39:34 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>So what is --                                    | 13:39:37 |\n| 7  | A.<br>But I don't know why it is related to this       | 13:39:38 |\n| 8  | as well.<br>It is sensitive information, which I have  | 13:39:42 |\n| 9  | to keep it.                                            | 13:39:44 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>You are -- so you are -- you are -- you are      | 13:39:45 |\n| 11 | unwilling to answer what the size of Golden Spring     | 13:39:46 |\n| 12 | (New York) Limited's loss was last year; is that       | 13:39:51 |\n| 13 | right?                                                 | 13:39:57 |\n| 14 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>This is not an asset       | 13:39:57 |\n| 15 | disclosure deposition for Golden Spring.<br>And -- and | 13:40:01 |\n| 16 | in light of the pending litigation that is already     | 13:40:03 |\n| 17 | out there, questions like this are overstepping what   | 13:40:05 |\n| 18 | the scope of this deposition is supposed to be,        | 13:40:09 |\n| 19 | which, again, this is a contested matter in            | 13:40:11 |\n| 20 | a bankruptcy case for a DIP loan, which is being       | 13:40:15 |\n| 21 | granted on a fully subordinated basis; so that's --    | 13:40:19 |\n| 22 | that is what we are here today on, not asset           | 13:40:23 |\n| 23 | disclosure.                                            | 13:40:27 |\n| 24 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Is that an instruction not to          | 13:40:34 |\n| 25 | answer, Scott?                                         | 13:40:36 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 130 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 156 of 280\n\n| 1  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes, it is.                              | 13:40:37 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 13:40:39 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Who made the requests to Golden Spring           | 13:40:39 |\n| 4  | (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing?         | 13:40:42 |\n| 5  | A.<br>I -- can I ask a translator to help me           | 13:40:47 |\n| 6  | understand this question?                              | 13:40:53 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Of course.                                       | 13:40:55 |\n| 8  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Ms. Johnston, I'll repeat it.          | 13:40:56 |\n| 9  | Who made the request to Golden Spring                  | 13:41:00 |\n| 10 | (New York) Limited for debtor-in-possession            | 13:41:02 |\n| 11 | financing?                                             | 13:41:09 |\n| 12 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Interprets question.)             | 13:41:42 |\n| 13 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER:<br>Can the check                | 13:41:42 |\n| 14 | interpreter help with that term?                       | 13:41:45 |\n| 15 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>Sure.                              | 13:41:48 |\n| 16 | THE WITNESS:<br>From the interpreter                   | 13:41:55 |\n| 17 | understanding, it is debtor's loan; right?<br>Debtor's | 13:41:57 |\n| 18 | position.<br>Debtor's loan.                            | 13:42:01 |\n| 19 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 13:42:01 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Well, Ms. -- Ms. Wang, on several occasions      | 13:42:01 |\n| 21 | today you have pointed out to me that we are here to   | 13:42:03 |\n| 22 | talk about a DIP loan.                                 | 13:42:09 |\n| 23 | Do you know what a DIP loan is?                        | 13:42:10 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 13:42:15 |\n| 25 | It is a loan between the debtor and lender.            | 13:42:16 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 131 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 157 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you know what DIP stands for?       | 13:42:19 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:42:27 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>What does it stand for?                         | 13:42:29 |\n| 4  | A.<br>It is a DIP loan displaying between --          | 13:42:31 |\n| 5  | I mean, I'm not a lawyer; right?                      | 13:42:42 |\n| 6  | It is a loan between the lender and the               | 13:42:43 |\n| 7  | debtor.                                               | 13:42:48 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Thirty seconds ago you said to me that you      | 13:42:49 |\n| 9  | know what DIP stands for.<br>It is okay if you don't. | 13:42:53 |\n| 10 | I'm just asking for an honest answer.                 | 13:43:00 |\n| 11 | Do you know what DIP stands for?<br>It is an          | 13:43:04 |\n| 12 | acronym.                                              | 13:43:09 |\n| 13 | A.<br>It is a loan.<br>It is a loan.<br>That's my     | 13:43:09 |\n| 14 | answer.                                               | 13:43:13 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>It stands for debtor in possession.    | 13:43:13 |\n| 16 | Okay?                                                 | 13:43:17 |\n| 17 | It is not a secret, but -- I'll keep going.           | 13:43:19 |\n| 18 | Who made the request to Golden Spring                 | 13:43:26 |\n| 19 | (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing that is | 13:43:32 |\n| 20 | at issue here?                                        | 13:43:37 |\n| 21 | A.<br>The owner of Golden Spring (New York).          | 13:43:39 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>The owner of Golden Spring (New York) made      | 13:43:44 |\n| 23 | a request to Golden Spring (New York) for DIP         | 13:43:52 |\n| 24 | financing?<br>Is that your testimony?                 | 13:43:57 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I don't understand your question.               | 13:44:00 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 132 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 158 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Who asked for the loan?                         | 13:44:05 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I was not involved in this loan negotiation.    | 13:44:10 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Do you know who made the request for the        | 13:44:15 |\n| 4  | loan?                                                 | 13:44:20 |\n| 5  | A.<br>I was not involved in the negotiation of        | 13:44:22 |\n| 6  | this loan.<br>I just got instruction and advice from  | 13:44:28 |\n| 7  | the owner of Golden Spring.                           | 13:44:32 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Is the answer to this question -- is   | 13:44:34 |\n| 9  | the answer to my question you don't know?             | 13:44:39 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I was not involved.                             | 13:44:41 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>You know what?<br>Let's use the interpreter.    | 13:44:42 |\n| 12 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Ms. Johnston, can you -- well,        | 13:44:48 |\n| 13 | let's do it this way.                                 | 13:44:53 |\n| 14 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 13:44:57 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Do you know who made the request to             | 13:44:57 |\n| 16 | Golden Spring (New York) Limited for the loan that is | 13:44:59 |\n| 17 | the subject of today's deposition?                    | 13:45:03 |\n| 18 | A.<br>I don't have personal knowledge.                | 13:45:09 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Has anyone told you who made the loan -- who    | 13:45:11 |\n| 20 | made the request for the loan that is the subject of  | 13:45:19 |\n| 21 | today's deposition?                                   | 13:45:22 |\n| 22 | A.<br>Has anyone told me?                             | 13:45:24 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Well, you said you didn't have personal         | 13:45:31 |\n| 24 | knowledge.                                            | 13:45:33 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:45:35 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 133 |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 159 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>And I know what that -- and I know what that     | 13:45:35 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | means.                                                 | 13:45:39 |\n| 3  | So I am asking you whether you have ever               | 13:45:39 |\n| 4  | learned from anyone else who made the request for the  | 13:45:42 |\n| 5  | loan that is the subject of today's deposition.        | 13:45:45 |\n| 6  | A.<br>I heard this from Mr. Qiang Guo about his        | 13:45:53 |\n| 7  | DIP loan.                                              | 13:45:58 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Who did he say requested the DIP loan?           | 13:45:59 |\n| 9  | A.<br>He mentioned his father -- his father's          | 13:46:05 |\n| 10 | attorney.                                              | 13:46:16 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Do you recall that attorney's name?              | 13:46:17 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>He didn't tell me, and        | 13:46:20 |\n| 13 | I don't recall.                                        | 13:46:23 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>When was that request made, if you know?         | 13:46:24 |\n| 15 | A.<br>In March.                                        | 13:46:33 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Of what year?                                    | 13:46:41 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Of this year.                                    | 13:46:43 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Were you -- as president, secretary,             | 13:46:45 |\n| 19 | treasurer, and director of Golden Spring (New York)    | 13:46:53 |\n| 20 | Limited -- involved in the decision about whether to   | 13:46:58 |\n| 21 | provide DIP financing to the debtor?                   | 13:47:03 |\n| 22 | A.<br>I was advised by Mr. Qiang Guo afterwards.       | 13:47:06 |\n| 23 | That was a quite short time period.<br>And he handled; | 13:47:16 |\n| 24 | so the answer to you is I was not involved.            | 13:47:24 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Were you consulted by Mr. Guo --                 | 13:47:27 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 134 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 160 of 280\n\n| 1  | Mr. Qiang Guo on the decision about whether            | 13:47:32 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP    | 13:47:36 |\n| 3  | financing to the debtor here?                          | 13:47:40 |\n| 4  | A.<br>What do you mean, consulted?                     | 13:47:42 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Do you know what consulted means?                | 13:47:45 |\n| 6  | A.<br>Of course I know.                                | 13:47:48 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So were you consulted by                | 13:47:49 |\n| 8  | Mr. Qiang Guo about the decision on whether            | 13:47:53 |\n| 9  | Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP    | 13:47:59 |\n| 10 | financing to the debtor?                               | 13:48:03 |\n| 11 | A.<br>You mean he -- when he was making the            | 13:48:05 |\n| 12 | decision?                                              | 13:48:08 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Well, we're going to get to who made the         | 13:48:09 |\n| 14 | decision.<br>I'm trying to figure out whether you were | 13:48:14 |\n| 15 | involved and, if so, how.<br>You told me a couple of   | 13:48:18 |\n| 16 | minutes ago that you were not involved with the        | 13:48:23 |\n| 17 | decision.                                              | 13:48:25 |\n| 18 | I'm asking if Mr. Qiang Guo spoke to you               | 13:48:26 |\n| 19 | about the decision.                                    | 13:48:30 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 13:48:33 |\n| 21 | He spoke to me about the decision.                     | 13:48:34 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Before he made it or after?                      | 13:48:36 |\n| 23 | A.<br>After.                                           | 13:48:40 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>And am I right that the decision was his,        | 13:48:41 |\n| 25 | not yours?<br>Correct?                                 | 13:48:47 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 135 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 161 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Golden Spring has been the litigation           | 13:48:49 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | funding for Mr. Qiang Guo's father, I mean, for       | 13:48:56 |\n| 3  | several years.<br>Mr. Qiang Guo made the decision,    | 13:49:01 |\n| 4  | given the short time apparent.<br>As the president of | 13:49:05 |\n| 5  | the company, I am aligned with that, and he knew and  | 13:49:09 |\n| 6  | he knows I am going to align with that.               | 13:49:13 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>I see.                                          | 13:49:15 |\n| 8  | A.<br>So no need --                                   | 13:49:16 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>And is that --                                  | 13:49:16 |\n| 10 | A.<br>No need to argue that, yeah, if that is what    | 13:49:17 |\n| 11 | you are looking for.                                  | 13:49:20 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- you know, I'm not          | 13:49:21 |\n| 13 | trying to argue with you.<br>I'm just trying to       | 13:49:22 |\n| 14 | understand what happened.                             | 13:49:25 |\n| 15 | And so how about this?                                | 13:49:28 |\n| 16 | You understand that litigation funding in             | 13:49:31 |\n| 17 | the past that Golden Spring may have provided to      | 13:49:37 |\n| 18 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is different from the DIP loan that   | 13:49:46 |\n| 19 | we are talking about today?<br>You understand that    | 13:49:49 |\n| 20 | those are two different things; right?                | 13:49:51 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 13:49:54 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so I would like to focus just on   | 13:49:54 |\n| 23 | the DIP loan and not litigation financing that may    | 13:49:58 |\n| 24 | have occurred in the past.                            | 13:50:03 |\n| 25 | Do you understand?                                    | 13:50:05 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 136 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 162\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 13:50:06 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so do I have it right that         | 13:50:10 |\n| 3  | according to you, the decision about whether to agree | 13:50:13 |\n| 4  | to the DIP loan for the debtor was Mr. Qiang Guo's    | 13:50:20 |\n| 5  | decision?<br>Correct?                                 | 13:50:27 |\n| 6  | A.<br>He made a decision, obviously on behalf of      | 13:50:34 |\n| 7  | Golden Spring, and he is the owner of the company.    | 13:50:41 |\n| 8  | And we're aligned.                                    | 13:50:43 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And you are the president, and all     | 13:50:45 |\n| 10 | those other titles, of Golden Spring (New York)       | 13:50:49 |\n| 11 | Limited; correct?                                     | 13:50:52 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 13:50:58 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Have you ever disagreed with Mr. Qiang Guo      | 13:50:59 |\n| 14 | about a decision that he has made?                    | 13:51:02 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes, of course.                                 | 13:51:03 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And did he solicit your agreement for  | 13:51:06 |\n| 17 | this decision?                                        | 13:51:08 |\n| 18 | A.<br>For this DIP loan decision, you mean?           | 13:51:09 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Uh-huh.                                         | 13:51:13 |\n| 20 | A.<br>No.                                             | 13:51:14 |\n| 21 | Why?                                                  | 13:51:19 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>He just -- he told you --                       | 13:51:20 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Why?                                            | 13:51:21 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>He told you -- he told you about it after he    | 13:51:22 |\n| 25 | had made a decision; correct?                         | 13:51:24 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 137 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 163 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>He briefed me what happened.                     | 13:51:26 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>What did he tell you?                            | 13:51:30 |\n| 3  | A.<br>About this DIP loan, and then he didn't have     | 13:51:31 |\n| 4  | enough time within the short limit of time.<br>He took | 13:51:38 |\n| 5  | care of that.                                          | 13:51:42 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Okay.                                            | 13:51:43 |\n| 7  | A.<br>So he always advise me with something in the     | 13:51:44 |\n| 8  | short limit of time or urgency kind of like it.        | 13:51:47 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.                                            | 13:51:51 |\n| 10 | A.<br>And then he took it like that.<br>He briefed     | 13:51:52 |\n| 11 | me.<br>That's it.                                      | 13:51:56 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And I will ask you one more time what   | 13:51:57 |\n| 13 | he said when he briefed you, and then I'll -- I'll     | 13:52:01 |\n| 14 | try this another way.                                  | 13:52:04 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Okay.                                            | 13:52:06 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>What did he say when he briefed you, if you      | 13:52:06 |\n| 17 | remember?<br>I mean, this was, what, a month ago?      | 13:52:09 |\n| 18 | A.<br>So what are you asking about?<br>Like, when      | 13:52:14 |\n| 19 | the brief happened or the DIP loan happened, sir?      | 13:52:16 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Fifteen seconds ago you told me a couple of      | 13:52:18 |\n| 21 | times that Mr. Qiang Guo briefed you.                  | 13:52:22 |\n| 22 | Do you remember that?                                  | 13:52:26 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 13:52:27 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>What did he say when he briefed you?             | 13:52:28 |\n| 25 | A.<br>He said he retained attorney and worked          | 13:52:32 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 138 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 164 of 280\n\n| 1  | together with the lenders' attorney and then -- to     | 13:52:45 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | take care of the DIP loan.<br>And that is what he told | 13:52:48 |\n| 3  | me.                                                    | 13:52:53 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Was that the first time you had heard   | 13:52:53 |\n| 5  | about the DIP loan?                                    | 13:52:57 |\n| 6  | A.<br>No.                                              | 13:52:59 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Who was the first person you heard about it      | 13:53:01 |\n| 8  | from?                                                  | 13:53:05 |\n| 9  | A.<br>I heard from the attorneys -- our attorneys.     | 13:53:06 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Before this conversation with           | 13:53:10 |\n| 11 | Qiang Guo?                                             | 13:53:13 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Correct.<br>Yes.                                 | 13:53:14 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Have you ever spoken with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok        | 13:53:23 |\n| 14 | about the DIP loan ever?                               | 13:53:26 |\n| 15 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                  | 13:53:29 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Is it possible that you have?                    | 13:53:32 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Unlikely.<br>I don't recall.                     | 13:53:36 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>How often do you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?     | 13:53:48 |\n| 19 | A.<br>Oh, we meet as needed.                           | 13:53:51 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>A few times a week?                              | 13:53:56 |\n| 21 | A.<br>As needed.                                       | 13:54:00 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>More or less than a few times a week?            | 13:54:02 |\n| 23 | A.<br>As needed.                                       | 13:54:07 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>I mean, as needed could be twenty times          | 13:54:11 |\n| 25 | a day, Ms. Wang.                                       | 13:54:14 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 139 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 165 of 280\n\n| 1  | Do you talk to him twenty times a day?              | 13:54:16 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Obviously not.                                | 13:54:19 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Well, it is not obvious because you won't     | 13:54:20 |\n| 4  | answer the question.                                | 13:54:22 |\n| 5  | How often do you speak to him?                      | 13:54:23 |\n| 6  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                            | 13:54:27 |\n| 7  | THE WITNESS:<br>As needed.                          | 13:54:28 |\n| 8  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Counsel, please specify a time        | 13:54:29 |\n| 9  | frame.                                              | 13:54:32 |\n| 10 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sure.                               | 13:54:33 |\n| 11 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                     | 13:54:34 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>From the moment you learned about the DIP     | 13:54:34 |\n| 13 | loan from some attorney until today, how frequently | 13:54:37 |\n| 14 | have you spoken with Mr. Kwok Ho Wan?               | 13:54:44 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Oh, I think I met him, like, more than        | 13:54:51 |\n| 16 | a week ago -- a week ago.                           | 13:54:55 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>That's one time.                     | 13:54:58 |\n| 18 | Any other times you can think of?                   | 13:55:04 |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't recall.                               | 13:55:07 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>On that one occasion that you do recall, did  | 13:55:10 |\n| 21 | you discuss the DIP loan with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?      | 13:55:15 |\n| 22 | A.<br>No.                                           | 13:55:19 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>When you saw Mr. Kwok most recently -- you    | 13:55:40 |\n| 24 | said it was about a week ago -- was that in the     | 13:55:45 |\n| 25 | Golden Spring (New York) offices?                   | 13:55:48 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 140 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 166 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 13:55:52 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you recall what you did discuss       | 13:55:52 |\n| 3  | with him on that occasion?                              | 13:55:56 |\n| 4  | A.<br>We just -- like, I send my regards, like,         | 13:55:58 |\n| 5  | social.                                                 | 13:56:09 |\n| 6  | And he asked, are you doing good; right?                | 13:56:10 |\n| 7  | So that's it, yeah.                                     | 13:56:13 |\n| 8  | We chat -- and he chat whether I am safe,               | 13:56:14 |\n| 9  | and I did the same.<br>That's it.<br>We didn't -- we    | 13:56:17 |\n| 10 | didn't chat about other stuff.<br>I don't -- we didn't. | 13:56:20 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And that was it, just -- just, like,     | 13:56:23 |\n| 12 | hi, how are you, that sort of thing?                    | 13:56:26 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 13:56:29 |\n| 14 | Obviously he was here, I believe, like,                 | 13:56:29 |\n| 15 | meeting his attorneys.<br>And I -- because this is my   | 13:56:33 |\n| 16 | office; so I arranged the office, like, you know,       | 13:56:39 |\n| 17 | like, take care of them; like, you know, arrange        | 13:56:44 |\n| 18 | their food and coffee, those kinds of stuff; so my      | 13:56:46 |\n| 19 | office did that for them.                               | 13:56:49 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Your office or you?                               | 13:56:51 |\n| 21 | A.<br>My office.<br>I instructed my office to do        | 13:56:52 |\n| 22 | that.                                                   | 13:56:58 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>You have -- in your capacity as          | 13:56:58 |\n| 24 | president and so forth of Golden Spring -- you know     | 13:57:16 |\n| 25 | what I mean by and so forth; right?                     | 13:57:20 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 141 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 167 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I don't really know that.                         | 13:57:23 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.                                             | 13:57:25 |\n| 3  | A.<br>What means so forth?                              | 13:57:26 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Sure.                                             | 13:57:27 |\n| 5  | I mean all those other titles, president,               | 13:57:29 |\n| 6  | secretary, treasurer, director.                         | 13:57:33 |\n| 7  | You hold all four titles; right?                        | 13:57:35 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Correct.                                          | 13:57:37 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And you are the only president;          | 13:57:38 |\n| 10 | correct?                                                | 13:57:40 |\n| 11 | A.<br>Correct.                                          | 13:57:41 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>The only treasurer; correct?                      | 13:57:42 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 13:57:44 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And what decisions are you empowered     | 13:57:44 |\n| 15 | to make in those roles without Qiang Guo's              | 13:58:00 |\n| 16 | permission?                                             | 13:58:06 |\n| 17 | A.<br>I make most of the daily operation decisions      | 13:58:06 |\n| 18 | in here.<br>Of course, I will brief him when we meet or | 13:58:15 |\n| 19 | chat, but I made the, like, daily operation decision    | 13:58:19 |\n| 20 | by myself in here.                                      | 13:58:25 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>How much is the -- the DIP loan that is at        | 13:58:26 |\n| 22 | issue in this case?                                     | 13:58:29 |\n| 23 | A.<br>The DIP loan is \\$8 million U.S.                  | 13:58:30 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>And who did you learn that from?                  | 13:58:39 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Who did I got this from?<br>From                  | 13:58:41 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 142 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 168\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | Mr. Qiang Guo.                                          | 13:58:46 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you know where the \\$8 million        | 13:58:46 |\n| 3  | figure came from?                                       | 13:58:54 |\n| 4  | A.<br>When Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, he advise he        | 13:58:55 |\n| 5  | will take care of that also, as we always did.<br>Like  | 13:59:06 |\n| 6  | the fund; like, for example, like, you asked did his    | 13:59:10 |\n| 7  | father ask for buy something, like, he will -- I have   | 13:59:14 |\n| 8  | to escalate for him.<br>He will make a decision for him | 13:59:17 |\n| 9  | that way.                                               | 13:59:21 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>I'm trying to understand, if you know, how        | 13:59:22 |\n| 11 | the figure of \\$8 million was arrived at.               | 13:59:29 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Could we have the -- the                  | 13:59:33 |\n| 13 | interpreter on that?                                    | 13:59:35 |\n| 14 | I believe the witness may have misunderstood            | 13:59:36 |\n| 15 | the question the first time.                            | 13:59:39 |\n| 16 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sure.                                   | 13:59:41 |\n| 17 | Ms. Johnston, do you need me to repeat it?              | 13:59:42 |\n| 18 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>Yes, please.                        | 13:59:47 |\n| 19 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 13:59:48 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, I'm asking if you know how the          | 13:59:49 |\n| 21 | \\$8 million figure was arrived at.                      | 13:59:55 |\n| 22 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Question interpreted.)             | 13:59:55 |\n| 23 | THE WITNESS:<br>(Through the Interpreter)               | 14:00:17 |\n| 24 | I was not involved in how the \\$8 million was arrived;  | 14:00:22 |\n| 25 | so I do not have any personal knowledge.                | 14:00:28 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 143 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 169\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 14:00:32 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Did Mr. Qiang Guo ever tell you how the         | 14:00:32 |\n| 3  | \\$8 million figure was arrived at?                    | 14:00:35 |\n| 4  | A.<br>(In English)<br>No.                             | 14:00:38 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Are you familiar with the terms of the DIP      | 14:00:52 |\n| 6  | loan?                                                 | 14:01:00 |\n| 7  | A.<br>You just asked me, yes.<br>Now, yes.            | 14:01:01 |\n| 8  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Let's use the interpreter,            | 14:01:11 |\n| 9  | please.                                               | 14:01:13 |\n| 10 | Ms. Johnston, could you please ask:<br>Are you        | 14:01:15 |\n| 11 | familiar with the terms of the DIP loan?              | 14:01:19 |\n| 12 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Question interpreted.)           | 14:01:34 |\n| 13 | THE WITNESS:<br>(Through the Interpreter)             | 14:01:34 |\n| 14 | This was my first time involved in this matter; so    | 14:01:50 |\n| 15 | I know it was a loan.<br>But I am unfamiliar with the | 14:01:54 |\n| 16 | terms.                                                | 14:01:58 |\n| 17 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 14:02:05 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Have you read the DIP loan agreement?           | 14:02:05 |\n| 19 | A.<br>(In English)<br>Briefly, I went through, yes.   | 14:02:08 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>When was that?                                  | 14:02:17 |\n| 21 | A.<br>You mean when or what?                          | 14:02:18 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>I'm sorry.                                      | 14:02:23 |\n| 23 | When?<br>When did you go through it briefly?          | 14:02:24 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Oh, when I was -- I prepped with the            | 14:02:28 |\n| 25 | counsels, I believe.                                  | 14:02:35 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 144 |\n\n1 Q. Okay. And how long ago was that? 14:02:36 2 A. I'm sorry. 14:02:40 3 What was your question? How long ago was 14:02:44 4 that? 14:02:47 5 Q. Yes, ma'am. 14:02:47 6 I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- I'm not interested in 14:02:49 7 what any of the attorneys told you, but I am 14:02:51 8 interested in when you met with them. 14:02:54 9 So when was it that you read the DIP loan 14:02:56 10 agreement? 14:03:00 11 A. When, you ask; right? 14:03:01 12 Q. Correct. 14:03:03 13 A. Before this deposition. Yesterday. 14:03:04 14 Q. Yesterday? 14:03:10 15 A. Yes. 14:03:13 16 Q. Was -- was yesterday the first time you saw 14:03:14 17 the DIP loan agreement? 14:03:19 18 A. I know it existed before yesterday, but 14:03:23 19 I didn't pay too much of attention until my attorney, 14:03:28 20 like, prepped me. 14:03:34 21 Q. Was yesterday the first day you saw the DIP 14:03:36 22 loan agreement? 14:03:40 23 A. I didn't recall. I may have seen that 14:03:43 24 before, but I couldn't recall. 14:03:46 25 MR. HARBACH: Scott, this question is not 14:03:54 Page 145\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 170 of 280\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 171 of 280\n\n| 1  | remotely intended to invade the privilege, but I hope  | 14:03:56 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | you will understand why I am asking it.                | 14:04:01 |\n| 3  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 14:04:03 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, when you met with the attorneys        | 14:04:04 |\n| 5  | yesterday, was there an interpreter available to help  | 14:04:06 |\n| 6  | you?                                                   | 14:04:09 |\n| 7  | A.<br>No.                                              | 14:04:13 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>When you read the DIP loan agreement             | 14:04:18 |\n| 9  | yesterday, did you understand it?                      | 14:04:21 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I know it is a loan.<br>It is 8 million, and     | 14:04:31 |\n| 11 | interest is at 5 percent and subject to the court to   | 14:04:34 |\n| 12 | approve by the end.                                    | 14:04:38 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you know anything else about the     | 14:04:42 |\n| 14 | conditions that are attached to the loan?              | 14:04:46 |\n| 15 | A.<br>I learned from the reading it is kind of         | 14:04:51 |\n| 16 | like a 50 percent pay the lender -- no.<br>The debtors | 14:04:55 |\n| 17 | professional.<br>Another 50 percent is going to pay    | 14:05:00 |\n| 18 | U.S. Trustee and the other attorney related.           | 14:05:05 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Are you familiar with the term events of         | 14:05:10 |\n| 20 | default?                                               | 14:05:14 |\n| 21 | A.<br>You mean in this DIP loan agreement?             | 14:05:15 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                      | 14:05:21 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I didn't pay attention about that.               | 14:05:22 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Do you know what any of the events of            | 14:05:25 |\n| 25 | default that are in this DIP loan agreement are?       | 14:05:29 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 146 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 172 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Can I have, like, interpreter help me on      | 14:05:32 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | this?<br>Because it is about this DIP loan details. | 14:05:40 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Of course.<br>Of course.                      | 14:05:44 |\n| 4  | MR. HARBACH:<br>I'll repeat it for                  | 14:05:46 |\n| 5  | Ms. Johnston.                                       | 14:05:49 |\n| 6  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                     | 14:05:51 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Do you know what any of the events of         | 14:05:51 |\n| 8  | default in this DIP loan agreement are?             | 14:05:53 |\n| 9  | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Question interpreted.)         | 14:05:53 |\n| 10 | THE WITNESS:<br>I don't recall.                     | 14:06:10 |\n| 11 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                     | 14:06:10 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>You don't recall or you don't know?           | 14:06:10 |\n| 13 | A.<br>I don't recall.                               | 14:06:15 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Do you know who Arethusa Forsyth is?          | 14:06:17 |\n| 15 | A-r-e-t-h-u-s-a, last name F, like Frank,           | 14:06:50 |\n| 16 | o-r-s-y-t-h.                                        | 14:06:58 |\n| 17 | Do you know who that person is?                     | 14:07:00 |\n| 18 | A.<br>This is attorney retained by Mr. Qiang Guo    | 14:07:04 |\n| 19 | work on this DIP loan.                              | 14:07:09 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Did you have any -- withdrawn.                | 14:07:10 |\n| 21 | Do you know how Attorney Forsyth is being           | 14:07:16 |\n| 22 | paid?                                               | 14:07:28 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I'm sorry.                                    | 14:07:29 |\n| 24 | Interpreter, can I have some support?               | 14:07:30 |\n| 25 | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Question interpreted.)         | 14:07:30 |\n|    |                                                     | Page 147 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 173 of 280\n\n| 1  | THE WITNESS:<br>Ah, okay.<br>Again, not my              | 14:07:39 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | native language.                                        | 14:07:41 |\n| 3  | So Mr. Qiang Guo advised me, and he is                  | 14:07:42 |\n| 4  | taking care of that also.<br>Because this attorney      | 14:07:46 |\n| 5  | based in UK; so like, where Mr. Qiang Guo is at.<br>He  | 14:07:52 |\n| 6  | will take care.<br>For Golden Spring, we didn't receive | 14:07:56 |\n| 7  | invoice yet.<br>Probably will come, but I didn't see    | 14:08:00 |\n| 8  | that yet.                                               | 14:08:03 |\n| 9  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 14:08:04 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>So when Mr. Qiang Guo told you that he would      | 14:08:04 |\n| 11 | take care of it, you understood that to mean that       | 14:08:07 |\n| 12 | Golden Spring (New York) would pay for her services;    | 14:08:10 |\n| 13 | is that right?                                          | 14:08:14 |\n| 14 | A.<br>That is my understanding.<br>For                  | 14:08:15 |\n| 15 | Golden Spring, like, we didn't receive invoice.<br>If   | 14:08:21 |\n| 16 | we receive that invoice, we will take care of that.     | 14:08:23 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Are there any other current officers     | 14:08:26 |\n| 18 | and directors of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,      | 14:08:50 |\n| 19 | besides you and Qiang Guo?                              | 14:08:57 |\n| 20 | A.<br>No.                                               | 14:09:03 |\n| 21 | Only me and him.                                        | 14:09:03 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Am I right that there was a time,        | 14:09:05 |\n| 23 | a few months in 2020, when you were replaced as         | 14:09:14 |\n| 24 | president by someone named Daniel Podhaskie,            | 14:09:23 |\n| 25 | P-o-d-h-a-s-k-i-e?<br>Is that right?                    | 14:09:27 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 148 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 174\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | A. | Correct.                                             | 14:09:37 |\n|----|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q. | It looks like Mr. Podhaskie was in those             | 14:09:38 |\n| 3  |    | roles for a little less than two months.             | 14:09:49 |\n| 4  |    | Does that sound about right to you?                  | 14:09:53 |\n| 5  | A. | Yes.                                                 | 14:09:55 |\n| 6  | Q. | Okay.<br>And why was it that he replaced you         | 14:09:58 |\n| 7  |    | for those couple of months?                          | 14:10:02 |\n| 8  | A. | Because I -- I was -- I had personal issue           | 14:10:04 |\n| 9  |    | by then, which I couldn't perform as my job as duty. | 14:10:13 |\n| 10 | Q. | I see.                                               | 14:10:20 |\n| 11 |    | And when that personal issue was resolved,           | 14:10:21 |\n| 12 |    | you returned --                                      | 14:10:25 |\n| 13 | A. | That's right.                                        | 14:10:28 |\n| 14 | Q. | -- is that right?                                    | 14:10:29 |\n| 15 | A. | Yes.<br>That's right.                                | 14:10:30 |\n| 16 | Q. | Okay.<br>Did you have a briefing with                | 14:10:31 |\n| 17 |    | Mr. Podhaskie when you came back on the job?         | 14:10:50 |\n| 18 | A. | I don't recall.                                      | 14:10:59 |\n| 19 | Q. | Okay.<br>Do you recall, in any conversations         | 14:11:02 |\n| 20 |    | with Mr. Podhaskie, whether he was in contact with   | 14:11:08 |\n| 21 |    | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?                                     | 14:11:14 |\n| 22 | A. | No.                                                  | 14:11:19 |\n| 23 |    | I don't recall.<br>We just handed over, like,        | 14:11:22 |\n| 24 |    | the daily operation work.<br>I mean, I don't recall  | 14:11:31 |\n| 25 |    | anything more than that.                             | 14:11:35 |\n|    |    |                                                      | Page 149 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 175 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>To your knowledge, is Mr. Podhaskie             | 14:11:36 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | currently, as of today, working for Golden Spring     | 14:11:45 |\n| 3  | (New York)?                                           | 14:11:48 |\n| 4  | A.<br>No.                                             | 14:11:48 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Who is the current general counsel of           | 14:11:50 |\n| 6  | Golden Spring (New York)?                             | 14:11:56 |\n| 7  | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'm going to object to that             | 14:12:00 |\n| 8  | question, and I have been advised for matters of      | 14:12:02 |\n| 9  | personal security that general counsel does not wish  | 14:12:09 |\n| 10 | to disclose general counsel's identity.               | 14:12:12 |\n| 11 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>I think I can work           | 14:12:17 |\n| 12 | around it, Scott.<br>Just don't hesitate to interrupt | 14:12:19 |\n| 13 | if -- if you want to, but I'm going to try and work   | 14:12:23 |\n| 14 | around that.                                          | 14:12:26 |\n| 15 | Okay?                                                 | 14:12:27 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Okay.                                   | 14:12:27 |\n| 17 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 14:12:27 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, your lawyer doesn't want you to       | 14:12:28 |\n| 19 | say the name, but do you know who the current general | 14:12:31 |\n| 20 | counsel of Golden Spring (New York) is?               | 14:12:35 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes, I know.                                    | 14:12:37 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And do you communicate with that       | 14:12:39 |\n| 23 | person?                                               | 14:12:42 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Yes, we do.                                     | 14:12:46 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>How regularly?<br>How often do you communicate  | 14:12:49 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 150 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 176 of 280\n\n| 1  | with that person?                                       | 14:12:52 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>We communicated -- it is not a daily basis,       | 14:12:53 |\n| 3  | but several times per week.                             | 14:13:03 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>I find it interesting that you have      | 14:13:06 |\n| 5  | a clear recollection of how often you speak with the    | 14:13:13 |\n| 6  | general counsel, but no recollection with any clarity   | 14:13:18 |\n| 7  | of how often you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.            | 14:13:24 |\n| 8  | Can you explain that?                                   | 14:13:28 |\n| 9  | A.<br>Yes, sir.                                         | 14:13:31 |\n| 10 | Because I'm the president of the                        | 14:13:33 |\n| 11 | Golden Spring, and that is my job to communicate with   | 14:13:35 |\n| 12 | my employee, including my general counsel and the       | 14:13:38 |\n| 13 | rest of our employees; so that is my job.<br>I am being | 14:13:42 |\n| 14 | paid to do that; so Mr. Ho Wan Kwok -- I mean, we       | 14:13:46 |\n| 15 | don't communicate on a regular basis or any -- kind     | 14:13:53 |\n| 16 | of like as you said, a regular basis.<br>We just        | 14:13:56 |\n| 17 | communicate as we need.<br>I mean, he is not employee;  | 14:13:59 |\n| 18 | right?                                                  | 14:14:04 |\n| 19 | And then I don't report to him; so why                  | 14:14:04 |\n| 20 | should I, you know, keep that rhythm and then to talk   | 14:14:07 |\n| 21 | with someone who is not in my job work?                 | 14:14:10 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Just one moment, please.<br>Hang on one           | 14:14:14 |\n| 23 | second.                                                 | 14:14:24 |\n| 24 | When was the current general counsel of                 | 14:14:49 |\n| 25 | Golden Spring hired?                                    | 14:14:52 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 151 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 177\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Less than two years ago.                        | 14:14:53 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 14:15:05 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Less than -- closer to two years.               | 14:15:11 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Approximately two years ago?                    | 14:15:14 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 14:15:17 |\n| 6  | About two years ago.<br>A little more or less.        | 14:15:18 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And -- and were you involved in the    | 14:15:22 |\n| 8  | decision to hire this person?                         | 14:15:28 |\n| 9  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 14:15:30 |\n| 10 | I make all the decision about the                     | 14:15:35 |\n| 11 | recruitment as the president of the company.          | 14:15:38 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>How many other people did you interview for     | 14:15:41 |\n| 13 | that position?                                        | 14:15:45 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Wow.<br>I mean, when I hire people, I'm pretty  | 14:15:47 |\n| 15 | much, if I can say, picky; so I did interview, like,  | 14:15:56 |\n| 16 | several candidates.                                   | 14:16:02 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you know where the person who is    | 14:16:04 |\n| 18 | currently the general counsel worked immediately      | 14:16:09 |\n| 19 | before coming to Golden Spring?                       | 14:16:13 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Can you please repeat again?                    | 14:16:20 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Yes.                                            | 14:16:23 |\n| 22 | A.<br>Sorry.                                          | 14:16:24 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>The -- the person who is general counsel of     | 14:16:25 |\n| 24 | Golden Spring, who you said you were involved in      | 14:16:28 |\n| 25 | hiring, where did that person work immediately before | 14:16:31 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 152 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 178\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | Golden Spring, if you know?                        | 14:16:36 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I do know, but I don't feel comfortable to   | 14:16:41 |\n| 3  | give any details about my current employee --      | 14:16:44 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.                                        | 14:16:47 |\n| 5  | A.<br>-- and including previous employer.          | 14:16:48 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>How about this?                              | 14:16:51 |\n| 7  | A.<br>That safety reason again.                    | 14:16:52 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Give me -- give me the -- give me the first  | 14:16:54 |\n| 9  | letter of the company where the general counsel    | 14:16:56 |\n| 10 | worked before coming to Golden Spring.             | 14:16:59 |\n| 11 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>That's -- that is      | 14:17:02 |\n| 12 | the -- it is the same issue.                       | 14:17:04 |\n| 13 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Because of the first letter?       | 14:17:10 |\n| 14 | MR. ROSEN:<br>We are not playing, you know,        | 14:17:12 |\n| 15 | twenty questions here.<br>David, c'mon.            | 14:17:14 |\n| 16 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                    | 14:17:24 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Was the general counsel's prior employer --  | 14:17:24 |\n| 18 | was the identity of the general counsel's prior    | 14:17:31 |\n| 19 | employer a factor in your decision to hire that    | 14:17:39 |\n| 20 | person?                                            | 14:17:44 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Well, I don't understand your question, sir. | 14:17:44 |\n| 22 | Can I ask for the interpreter to help me?          | 14:17:46 |\n| 23 | Sorry.                                             | 14:17:49 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>No problem.                                  | 14:17:51 |\n| 25 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Here we go, Ms. Johnston.          | 14:17:52 |\n|    |                                                    | Page 153 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 179 of 280\n\n BY MR. HARBACH: 14:17:55 2 Q. Is the -- was the identity of the general 14:17:55 counsel's provider employer a factor in your decision 14:17:58 to hire that person? 14:18:05 5 THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.) 14:18:24 6 THE WITNESS: When I interview and hire 14:18:31 people, like the previous employer before me, that 14:18:33 does matter also. And, obviously, you know, I want 14:18:40 to hire the high quality of talent; right? 14:18:44 10 Where they are from, that do matter. And, 14:18:48 plus, I still care about, like, the loyalty with the 14:18:51 previous job. You already -- I don't like, you know, 14:18:54 employee or the candidate jumping too often from job 14:18:59 to job. But besides that, you know, I do care about, 14:19:04 like, the interview -- the feeling of the interview; 14:19:09 right? 14:19:11 17 The understanding and the communication and 14:19:12 the people skill, of course the capability of 14:19:14 professional, that all matters; so to answer your 14:19:17 question, the previous employer does matter, but it 14:19:20 is not only the -- only one reason for me to make 14:19:23 a decision to send out the offer. 14:19:27 BY MR. HARBACH: 14:19:31 24 Q. Did you contact this general counsel's 14:19:31 previous employer during the hiring process? 14:19:34 Page 154\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 180 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I remember my HR department by then, they        | 14:19:42 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | conducted the background check and reference check.    | 14:19:47 |\n| 3  | I didn't do that by myself.<br>I have a company do     | 14:19:51 |\n| 4  | that.                                                  | 14:19:54 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>So you did -- you, personally, did not speak     | 14:19:54 |\n| 6  | to anyone at this person's prior employer; correct?    | 14:19:57 |\n| 7  | A.<br>I mean, I manage the entire, like, employee.     | 14:20:03 |\n| 8  | I mean, as the president of the company, my            | 14:20:06 |\n| 9  | understanding is you are the -- the HR department      | 14:20:09 |\n| 10 | will do that for me; right?                            | 14:20:12 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>You know, Ms. Wang, it is a simple question.     | 14:20:14 |\n| 12 | I'm not suggesting you should have.<br>I'm just asking | 14:20:17 |\n| 13 | whether you did.                                       | 14:20:20 |\n| 14 | A.<br>No, I didn't.                                    | 14:20:21 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.                                            | 14:20:23 |\n| 16 | A.<br>My HR department did that, uh-huh.               | 14:20:24 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did you personally conduct any of the   | 14:20:27 |\n| 18 | reference calls for this person?                       | 14:20:30 |\n| 19 | A.<br>No.                                              | 14:20:32 |\n| 20 | I didn't do that.<br>But my -- my -- in                | 14:20:35 |\n| 21 | person, my -- personally.                              | 14:20:40 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>But your understanding is that somebody in       | 14:20:43 |\n| 23 | your HR department did?                                | 14:20:44 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Correct.                                         | 14:20:46 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Are there any other inhouse lawyers for          | 14:20:47 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 155 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 181 of 280\n\n| 1  | Golden Spring (New York), apart from the general       | 14:21:00 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | counsel?                                               | 14:21:03 |\n| 3  | A.<br>Which time period you are asking, sir?           | 14:21:04 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Currently.                                       | 14:21:10 |\n| 5  | A.<br>No.                                              | 14:21:12 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>How many employees does Golden Spring            | 14:21:14 |\n| 7  | (New York) Limited currently have?                     | 14:21:26 |\n| 8  | MR. ROSEN:<br>I believe that information has           | 14:21:34 |\n| 9  | been previously provided.<br>And I believe, David, you | 14:21:36 |\n| 10 | are aware of the sensitivity to the employee issue.    | 14:21:41 |\n| 11 | I -- I don't think we have an objection to answering   | 14:21:45 |\n| 12 | how many employees there are, but I would ask you      | 14:21:50 |\n| 13 | not -- not to get into any personal or identifying     | 14:21:54 |\n| 14 | information with respect to that.                      | 14:21:57 |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Yeah.<br>I -- I -- thank you,          | 14:22:00 |\n| 16 | Scott.                                                 | 14:22:02 |\n| 17 | I do understand the position of                        | 14:22:04 |\n| 18 | Golden Spring (New York) as had been represented to    | 14:22:06 |\n| 19 | us by counsel and repeated by counsel for the debtor   | 14:22:09 |\n| 20 | in -- in a previous proceeding; so I will respect      | 14:22:14 |\n| 21 | your request for purposes of this deposition while     | 14:22:22 |\n| 22 | noting that we disagree strongly with the -- the       | 14:22:25 |\n| 23 | basis of it.                                           | 14:22:29 |\n| 24 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 14:22:33 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>So for the moment, Ms. Wang, my question is      | 14:22:33 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 156 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 182 of 280\n\n| 1  | just the number of employees.                         | 14:22:36 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | How many employees currently work at                  | 14:22:38 |\n| 3  | Golden Spring (New York) Limited?                     | 14:22:43 |\n| 4  | A.<br>Oh, currently I believe it is about fourteen    | 14:22:45 |\n| 5  | of them, including myself.                            | 14:22:53 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Including you?                                  | 14:22:55 |\n| 7  | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 14:22:58 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Does that also include Mr. Qiang Guo?<br>Or     | 14:22:58 |\n| 9  | no?                                                   | 14:23:04 |\n| 10 | A.<br>No.                                             | 14:23:05 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So you and the general counsel --      | 14:23:05 |\n| 12 | does that include that person?                        | 14:23:10 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 14:23:13 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So you, the general counsel, and       | 14:23:14 |\n| 15 | twelve other people?                                  | 14:23:21 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 14:23:23 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Do all of those people work at the family       | 14:23:23 |\n| 18 | office?                                               | 14:23:32 |\n| 19 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I object to this.<br>The -- there       | 14:23:36 |\n| 20 | are issues of physical security that I have been      | 14:23:38 |\n| 21 | alerted to.<br>And if -- if -- if you would like,     | 14:23:41 |\n| 22 | David, I do have a statement from the Golden Spring   | 14:23:47 |\n| 23 | security team that I could read into the record.      | 14:23:50 |\n| 24 | If -- if -- if you think it is appropriate.<br>But -- | 14:23:54 |\n| 25 | MR. HARBACH:<br>I -- I appreciate that, Scott.        | 14:23:59 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 183 of 280\n\n| 1  | I mean, I -- as I said before, we -- we understand      | 14:24:02 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | the position that you are taking.<br>And if your        | 14:24:05 |\n| 3  | position is whether all employees work in the same      | 14:24:08 |\n| 4  | location presents a security risk such that you are     | 14:24:13 |\n| 5  | going to direct the witness not to answer, that is      | 14:24:16 |\n| 6  | okay.<br>I'll just note for the record that we -- we    | 14:24:19 |\n| 7  | disagree and reserve the right to take it up with the   | 14:24:22 |\n| 8  | Judge, like we do just about all of the objections      | 14:24:26 |\n| 9  | that have been made today.<br>But -- but -- but that is | 14:24:30 |\n| 10 | sufficient for present purposes, if that is okay with   | 14:24:34 |\n| 11 | you.                                                    | 14:24:36 |\n| 12 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes.                                      | 14:24:37 |\n| 13 | That -- that is fine.                                   | 14:24:38 |\n| 14 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.                                   | 14:24:40 |\n| 15 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 14:24:41 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Does Golden Spring -- as far as -- as you         | 14:24:52 |\n| 17 | are concerned, Ms. Wang, does Golden Spring             | 14:24:54 |\n| 18 | (New York) Limited expect to be repaid for the DIP      | 14:24:59 |\n| 19 | loan?                                                   | 14:25:05 |\n| 20 | A.<br>It is a loan, yes.<br>Golden Spring is going      | 14:25:06 |\n| 21 | to expect to be repaid.                                 | 14:25:12 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>We were speaking earlier about bank accounts      | 14:25:14 |\n| 23 | and whatnot, and I'm -- and I'm not intending to        | 14:25:30 |\n| 24 | reopen that can of worms, but I am going to ask this    | 14:25:33 |\n| 25 | precise question.                                       | 14:25:38 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 158 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 184 of 280\n\n| 1  | What is the source of the moneys that will            | 14:25:38 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | fund the DIP loan if it is approved?                  | 14:25:41 |\n| 3  | A.<br>And it will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo        | 14:25:43 |\n| 4  | directly.                                             | 14:25:53 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>What is the source of the moneys that will      | 14:25:53 |\n| 6  | fund the DIP loan if it is approved?                  | 14:25:58 |\n| 7  | A.<br>It will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo            | 14:26:06 |\n| 8  | directly.                                             | 14:26:08 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Do you know where the money will come from?     | 14:26:08 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I was not advised it yet, but Mr. Qiang Guo     | 14:26:13 |\n| 11 | said that he will take care of that, as he always do. | 14:26:19 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>So you are president and treasurer of           | 14:26:22 |\n| 13 | Golden Spring.<br>You are here testifying today about | 14:26:25 |\n| 14 | a DIP loan, as I have been reminded countless times.  | 14:26:29 |\n| 15 | And your testimony is that you do not know where the  | 14:26:35 |\n| 16 | money to fund the DIP loan is coming from.            | 14:26:39 |\n| 17 | Have I got that right?                                | 14:26:45 |\n| 18 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>That                      | 14:26:47 |\n| 19 | mischaracterizes the witness' testimony.              | 14:26:48 |\n| 20 | You can answer the question.                          | 14:26:55 |\n| 21 | THE WITNESS:<br>It will be arranged by                | 14:26:56 |\n| 22 | Mr. Qiang Guo directly from his or -- his wealth, in  | 14:26:58 |\n| 23 | my understanding, as always we do.                    | 14:27:06 |\n| 24 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 14:27:10 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Did he tell you that?                           | 14:27:11 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 159 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 185 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>He advised me he will take care of that.          | 14:27:15 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Did he tell you where the money was coming        | 14:27:18 |\n| 3  | from?                                                   | 14:27:20 |\n| 4  | A.<br>So far not yet.<br>But he said he will take       | 14:27:21 |\n| 5  | care of that, as he always does.                        | 14:27:26 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Did you ask him where the money was coming        | 14:27:27 |\n| 7  | from?                                                   | 14:27:30 |\n| 8  | A.<br>I didn't.                                         | 14:27:31 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.                                             | 14:27:37 |\n| 10 | A.<br>He said he will take care of that.                | 14:27:39 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>No.                                               | 14:27:40 |\n| 12 | I -- I -- I understand that he said he will             | 14:27:41 |\n| 13 | take care of it.<br>I'm just asking if you know where   | 14:27:43 |\n| 14 | the money was coming from, and -- and I think I have    | 14:27:46 |\n| 15 | got the answer.                                         | 14:27:49 |\n| 16 | A.<br>We have trust between each other for so many      | 14:27:51 |\n| 17 | years.<br>When -- as the owner of the company, he said  | 14:27:54 |\n| 18 | he will take care of that, and I will just let him do   | 14:27:57 |\n| 19 | his part.<br>I am doing my part; right?<br>So           | 14:28:01 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Listen, that -- that is fine.<br>But you have     | 14:28:05 |\n| 21 | been tendered as the person at Golden Spring            | 14:28:07 |\n| 22 | (New York) Limited with knowledge about all these       | 14:28:11 |\n| 23 | topics that we have noticed.<br>One of the topics is    | 14:28:14 |\n| 24 | the source of funds used by Golden Spring to finance    | 14:28:17 |\n| 25 | the DIP loan agreement.<br>And so I -- I just asked you | 14:28:21 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 186 of 280\n\n| 1  | if you know, and so we are clear, your answer is you    | 14:28:26 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | don't know, but Qiang Guo said he would take care of    | 14:28:31 |\n| 3  | it, and that's enough for you.                          | 14:28:35 |\n| 4  | MR. ROSEN:<br>That's -- objection.<br>That              | 14:28:38 |\n| 5  | mischaracterizes the testimony.                         | 14:28:40 |\n| 6  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Oh, Scott, how does that                | 14:28:42 |\n| 7  | mischaracterize the testimony?                          | 14:28:44 |\n| 8  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Because she also testified that           | 14:28:45 |\n| 9  | it could be from his wealth.                            | 14:28:47 |\n| 10 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 14:28:47 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So did he -- did he say that?<br>My      | 14:28:50 |\n| 12 | question is did he say that to you?<br>Did he say that  | 14:28:57 |\n| 13 | I am -- I'm going to take care of it from my wealth?    | 14:28:59 |\n| 14 | Is that what he said?                                   | 14:29:02 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Correct.                                          | 14:29:09 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>He said that to you?                              | 14:29:09 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 14:29:12 |\n| 18 | As always, we chat.<br>He briefed me.<br>He             | 14:29:13 |\n| 19 | said, I will take care of that.<br>You don't worry.     | 14:29:17 |\n| 20 | And I have place to rent.<br>My understanding, after so | 14:29:20 |\n| 21 | many years, that will come from his wealth.             | 14:29:23 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So he did not say to you, I will take    | 14:29:26 |\n| 23 | care of it from my money.<br>He just said, I will take  | 14:29:29 |\n| 24 | care of it, and based on your experience with him       | 14:29:34 |\n| 25 | over the years, you understood that to mean from his    | 14:29:39 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 187\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | wealth.                                                | 14:29:42 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Have I got that right?                                 | 14:29:43 |\n| 3  | A.<br>So you remind me, like, he said I have it.       | 14:29:45 |\n| 4  | I will take care of that.<br>That's his, as we said,   | 14:29:51 |\n| 5  | quote to quote.<br>He said that to me.<br>In my        | 14:29:55 |\n| 6  | understanding, that will come from his -- his wealth.  | 14:29:58 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And when was this conversation?         | 14:30:00 |\n| 8  | A.<br>That was yesterday also.                         | 14:30:03 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Was yesterday the -- the first time you          | 14:30:06 |\n| 10 | learned what the source of the funds used to finance   | 14:30:17 |\n| 11 | the DIP loan agreement were coming from?               | 14:30:24 |\n| 12 | A.<br>There was a -- in order to prep the              | 14:30:30 |\n| 13 | deposition today, like, he went through this DIP loan  | 14:30:37 |\n| 14 | arrangement with me a little bit.                      | 14:30:41 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.                                            | 14:30:43 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yeah.<br>He mentioned to me, I have it.          | 14:30:44 |\n| 17 | I will take care of that --                            | 14:30:46 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>All right.                                       | 14:30:48 |\n| 19 | A.<br>-- you know, as a conversation.                  | 14:30:49 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Fair enough.                                     | 14:30:50 |\n| 21 | My only question for you is when he told you           | 14:30:51 |\n| 22 | yesterday, I have it.<br>I'll take care of it, is that | 14:30:54 |\n| 23 | the first time you learned what the source of the DIP  | 14:30:58 |\n| 24 | loan funds would be?                                   | 14:31:03 |\n| 25 | A.<br>That is the time I heard from him because        | 14:31:05 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 162 |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 188 of 280\n\n| 1  | I need to prep the deposition today.<br>But I know he | 14:31:11 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | has it for so many years; so it is not, like, the     | 14:31:15 |\n| 3  | first time -- right? -- I got -- oh, you have money.  | 14:31:20 |\n| 4  | It is not like that way.<br>I know he had it.         | 14:31:23 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Oh, I got it.<br>I got you.<br>And, believe me, | 14:31:25 |\n| 6  | I am not trying to suggest that yesterday was the     | 14:31:28 |\n| 7  | first day you learned he had money.<br>Not at all.    | 14:31:31 |\n| 8  | I get that.                                           | 14:31:35 |\n| 9  | What I'm -- what I'm trying to focus on is            | 14:31:36 |\n| 10 | was yesterday the first day that you learned that the | 14:31:38 |\n| 11 | money that would fund the DIP loan was going to come  | 14:31:44 |\n| 12 | from Qiang Guo?                                       | 14:31:47 |\n| 13 | A.<br>That was the time I heard from him, yes.        | 14:31:52 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>What is your understanding as to how   | 14:31:55 |\n| 15 | the DIP loan is going to be repaid?<br>If you know.   | 14:32:04 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't know.                                   | 14:32:11 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Give me ten seconds, folks, please.    | 14:32:13 |\n| 18 | Excuse me.                                            | 14:32:31 |\n| 19 | Okay.<br>Thanks, everybody.                           | 14:33:24 |\n| 20 | Subject change.                                       | 14:33:29 |\n| 21 | Ms. Wang, does -- does Golden Spring                  | 14:33:37 |\n| 22 | (New York) Limited have any kind of company bylaws    | 14:33:45 |\n| 23 | that you know of?                                     | 14:33:49 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 14:33:50 |\n| 25 | We do have bylaws.                                    | 14:33:50 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 163 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 189 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And do those bylaws say anything         | 14:33:52 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | about decisions of the company and how they are to be   | 14:33:56 |\n| 3  | made?                                                   | 14:34:04 |\n| 4  | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 14:34:04 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And do those bylaws include rules        | 14:34:05 |\n| 6  | about how the -- the president and treasurer are to     | 14:34:10 |\n| 7  | be involved?                                            | 14:34:13 |\n| 8  | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 14:34:14 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And as far as you are aware,             | 14:34:16 |\n| 10 | Golden Spring has operated within the constraints of    | 14:34:22 |\n| 11 | those bylaws properly as long as you have been there?   | 14:34:27 |\n| 12 | A.<br>What do you mean, properly, sir?                  | 14:34:31 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Well, have they -- while you have been at         | 14:34:34 |\n| 14 | Golden Spring (New York), have the rules been           | 14:34:38 |\n| 15 | followed as laid out in the bylaws?                     | 14:34:41 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I mean, we are family office.<br>I mean, we're    | 14:34:44 |\n| 17 | private company and family office.<br>I work for        | 14:34:48 |\n| 18 | Mr. Qiang Guo, himself, for my entire career; so        | 14:34:53 |\n| 19 | like, he authorized me to make a decision.              | 14:35:02 |\n| 20 | I communicated with him.<br>I mean, we don't have       | 14:35:06 |\n| 21 | issue.<br>If there is missing any paperwork, it doesn't | 14:35:08 |\n| 22 | mean that anybody purposely do anything wrong; so we    | 14:35:11 |\n| 23 | are a family office.                                    | 14:35:14 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>I'm not suggesting anything about                 | 14:35:16 |\n| 25 | wrongdoing, certainly not on purpose.<br>I asked you if | 14:35:19 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 190 of 280\n\n| 1  | the company had bylaws.<br>You said yes.               | 14:35:25 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | My next question is has the company abided             | 14:35:27 |\n| 3  | by the bylaws as long as you have been there, as far   | 14:35:31 |\n| 4  | as you know?                                           | 14:35:35 |\n| 5  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>That's -- that is --       | 14:35:37 |\n| 6  | that is very broad.                                    | 14:35:37 |\n| 7  | What particular aspect of the bylaws are you           | 14:35:41 |\n| 8  | looking for?                                           | 14:35:44 |\n| 9  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Well, I tried to remain                | 14:35:45 |\n| 10 | focused on decision making and the powers of the       | 14:35:47 |\n| 11 | president and treasurer; so I guess I'll ask it that   | 14:35:50 |\n| 12 | way.                                                   | 14:35:55 |\n| 13 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 14:35:55 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Have -- have the bylaws about the authority      | 14:35:55 |\n| 15 | and power of the president and the treasurer been      | 14:35:58 |\n| 16 | respected since you have been at Golden Spring?        | 14:36:04 |\n| 17 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>The bylaws are not         | 14:36:07 |\n| 18 | in the record.<br>It -- it is -- the question is -- is | 14:36:09 |\n| 19 | hopelessly vague.                                      | 14:36:13 |\n| 20 | But you can answer.                                    | 14:36:15 |\n| 21 | THE WITNESS:<br>Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we               | 14:36:18 |\n| 22 | manage Golden Spring (New York) Limited based on our   | 14:36:23 |\n| 23 | aligned -- aligned -- our aligned agreement and        | 14:36:26 |\n| 24 | proper authorization.                                  | 14:36:31 |\n| 25 | ///                                                    |          |\n|    |                                                        |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 191\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 14:36:32 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Let me ask a different question.       | 14:36:35 |\n| 3  | When you were appointed as president,                 | 14:36:40 |\n| 4  | secretary, treasurer of Golden Spring (New York) in   | 14:36:47 |\n| 5  | the spring of 2018 -- that's -- so that is the time   | 14:36:52 |\n| 6  | I'm focusing on -- were you aware that the company's  | 14:36:57 |\n| 7  | charter had been inoperative and void since March 1   | 14:37:01 |\n| 8  | of 2017?                                              | 14:37:07 |\n| 9  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>Assumes facts not on      | 14:37:10 |\n| 10 | the record.                                           | 14:37:13 |\n| 11 | THE WITNESS:<br>I don't recall.                       | 14:37:15 |\n| 12 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 14:37:16 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Do you recall ever executing a revival --       | 14:37:18 |\n| 14 | a certificate of revival on behalf of Golden Spring   | 14:37:23 |\n| 15 | (New York) Limited to correct that problem?           | 14:37:27 |\n| 16 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>If you have documents, you   | 14:37:33 |\n| 17 | can remind me, sir.                                   | 14:37:36 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Give me just one second.                        | 14:37:38 |\n| 19 | Okay.<br>I think we're going to put up another        | 14:39:17 |\n| 20 | exhibit here real quick that might help you remember. | 14:39:21 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Yeah.<br>It is 808.<br>Yeah.<br>It    | 14:39:30 |\n| 22 | is 808.                                               | 14:39:40 |\n| 23 | (Deposition Exhibit Number 5                          | 14:39:43 |\n| 24 | was marked for identification.)                       | 14:39:46 |\n| 25 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Thanks for your patience.             | 14:39:46 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 166 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 192 of 280\n\n| 1  | I think we have got the document here.               | 14:39:49 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | THE WITNESS:<br>Sorry.                               | 14:40:02 |\n| 3  | Sir, can we have a break after this                  | 14:40:05 |\n| 4  | document?                                            | 14:40:07 |\n| 5  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 14:40:08 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Sure.                                          | 14:40:08 |\n| 7  | A.<br>Thank you.                                     | 14:40:09 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So what is fixing to come through is  | 14:40:18 |\n| 9  | Exhibit 5.<br>There we go.                           | 14:40:21 |\n| 10 | All right.<br>I had myself muted.<br>I'm sorry.      | 14:41:02 |\n| 11 | Could you please go to the last page of              | 14:41:04 |\n| 12 | Exhibit 5.                                           | 14:41:07 |\n| 13 | A.<br>(Witness complies.)                            | 14:41:08 |\n| 14 | Yes.<br>I'm here.                                    | 14:41:09 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>You see how this one is captioned     | 14:41:10 |\n| 16 | state of Delaware, certificate for revival of        | 14:41:14 |\n| 17 | charter?                                             | 14:41:18 |\n| 18 | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 14:41:18 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>And there is a signature at the bottom.        | 14:41:19 |\n| 20 | Is that yours?                                       | 14:41:23 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 14:41:24 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>And the very bottom right hand of the page     | 14:41:27 |\n| 23 | it says -- there is a stamp there that says filed    | 14:41:30 |\n| 24 | ten -- there is a time of 10:23:18, I think it says. | 14:41:37 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 14:41:46 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 167 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 193 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So this is what I was asking you        | 14:41:46 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | about a minute ago.<br>In paragraph three, it says the | 14:41:52 |\n| 3  | date of filing of the corporation's original           | 14:41:56 |\n| 4  | certificate of incorporation in Delaware was           | 14:42:00 |\n| 5  | 03/10/2015.                                            | 14:42:04 |\n| 6  | Do you see that?                                       | 14:42:07 |\n| 7  | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 14:42:08 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>So that March 10th of 2015 was the --            | 14:42:13 |\n| 9  | apparently the date of incorporation of Golden Spring  | 14:42:16 |\n| 10 | (New York) Limited.                                    | 14:42:20 |\n| 11 | And then if you look down at paragraph five,           | 14:42:21 |\n| 12 | it says:                                               | 14:42:25 |\n| 13 | \"The corporation was duly organized and                | 14:42:26 |\n| 14 | carried on the business authorized by its              | 14:42:29 |\n| 15 | charter until the first day of March AD 2017,          | 14:42:32 |\n| 16 | at which time its charter became inoperative           | 14:42:41 |\n| 17 | and void for nonpayment of taxes and/or                | 14:42:44 |\n| 18 | failure to file a complete annual report and           | 14:42:49 |\n| 19 | the certificate of revival is filed by                 | 14:42:54 |\n| 20 | authority of the duly elected directors of             | 14:42:56 |\n| 21 | the corporation in accordance with the laws            | 14:43:00 |\n| 22 | of the state of Delaware.\"                             | 14:43:04 |\n| 23 | Were you able to follow along with me while            | 14:43:07 |\n| 24 | I read that?                                           | 14:43:09 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 14:43:10 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 168 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 194 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So now does this refresh your           | 14:43:11 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | recollection about whether when you were hired at      | 14:43:19 |\n| 3  | Golden Spring in the spring of 2018 the charter had    | 14:43:23 |\n| 4  | been made inoperative and void?                        | 14:43:32 |\n| 5  | A.<br>So what is your question, sir?<br>Are you        | 14:43:43 |\n| 6  | expecting me to reply?                                 | 14:43:46 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                      | 14:43:47 |\n| 8  | Before I dug up this document, when I asked            | 14:43:48 |\n| 9  | you that same question, you said I don't remember or   | 14:43:52 |\n| 10 | I don't recall.<br>And you said to me, if you have any | 14:43:56 |\n| 11 | documents, maybe that could help me; so I'm providing  | 14:44:00 |\n| 12 | you a document to try and help you.                    | 14:44:04 |\n| 13 | And the question is whether seeing this                | 14:44:09 |\n| 14 | document refreshes your recollection about whether at  | 14:44:11 |\n| 15 | the time you assumed your duties at Golden Spring      | 14:44:15 |\n| 16 | (New York) in the spring of 2018 the company, in       | 14:44:21 |\n| 17 | fact, had become inoperative -- correction.            | 14:44:27 |\n| 18 | The charter of the company had become                  | 14:44:30 |\n| 19 | inoperative and void.                                  | 14:44:33 |\n| 20 | A.<br>So you are asking me why?<br>Or what is your     | 14:44:41 |\n| 21 | question, sir?<br>Why or --                            | 14:44:45 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>I'm asking whether this is, in fact, true        | 14:44:48 |\n| 23 | that at the time you were hired in the spring of       | 14:44:54 |\n| 24 | 2018 -- okay? -- whether at that time the charter of   | 14:44:58 |\n| 25 | Golden Spring (New York) Limited was inoperative and   | 14:45:06 |\n|    |                                                        |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 195 of 280\n\n| 1  | void.                                                  | 14:45:12 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>The -- the document        | 14:45:12 |\n| 3  | speaks for itself.                                     | 14:45:14 |\n| 4  | MR. HARBACH:<br>It -- it does, indeed, Scott.          | 14:45:16 |\n| 5  | And that is quite fair.                                | 14:45:19 |\n| 6  | Unfortunately, the history of this                     | 14:45:21 |\n| 7  | litigation is that sometimes documents are challenged  | 14:45:23 |\n| 8  | as being inauthentic and forgeries when they are       | 14:45:26 |\n| 9  | plainly not; so I'm afraid I have to ask the           | 14:45:31 |\n| 10 | question.                                              | 14:45:34 |\n| 11 | MR. ROSEN:<br>You can answer the question.             | 14:45:34 |\n| 12 | THE WITNESS:<br>Sir, I don't -- I don't know           | 14:45:36 |\n| 13 | what happened before I was officially hired, but if    | 14:45:39 |\n| 14 | you read back the entire Golden Spring, including,     | 14:45:45 |\n| 15 | I believe, the corporation, was set up by attorney     | 14:45:49 |\n| 16 | from William Connolly.<br>The attorney's name is       | 14:45:52 |\n| 17 | addressed on page three, Jerry L. Shulman; so          | 14:45:58 |\n| 18 | I know -- I got to know -- Jerry was Mr. Qiang Guo's   | 14:46:03 |\n| 19 | attorney.<br>And William Connolly was, like, a -- what | 14:46:07 |\n| 20 | is technically, like, the Golden Spring charters,      | 14:46:11 |\n| 21 | like, the documentation, you know, all the paperwork;  | 14:46:17 |\n| 22 | so the answer to you was, like, when I was hired --    | 14:46:20 |\n| 23 | of course, I don't know what happened before me, but,  | 14:46:25 |\n| 24 | obviously, Jerry Shulman, the attorney by then was --  | 14:46:28 |\n| 25 | maintained the -- the record here or fix the record    | 14:46:32 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 196 of 280\n\n| 1  | somehow, which I am not aware of that before me.        | 14:46:36 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 14:46:41 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Just a moment.                           | 14:46:42 |\n| 4  | Okay.<br>We thought we were having a fire               | 14:46:50 |\n| 5  | drill in our building, but it is only a test.<br>Sorry  | 14:46:53 |\n| 6  | for the noise.                                          | 14:46:56 |\n| 7  | I understood what you said, Ms. Wang.                   | 14:47:00 |\n| 8  | You -- you signed this document, and it was filed in    | 14:47:03 |\n| 9  | Delaware in October of 2018.                            | 14:47:12 |\n| 10 | Do you remember signing it?                             | 14:47:18 |\n| 11 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>Too many years ago.            | 14:47:22 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>I gather, from what you said a moment ago,        | 14:47:24 |\n| 13 | that if I were to ask you how you learned that the      | 14:47:29 |\n| 14 | charter of Golden Spring had become inoperative and     | 14:47:38 |\n| 15 | void, you would say it was -- it was from the           | 14:47:41 |\n| 16 | attorney you mentioned; is that right?                  | 14:47:45 |\n| 17 | A.<br>I read this from the exhibit you present to       | 14:47:50 |\n| 18 | me.<br>And the attorney's name, Jerry Shulman, is on    | 14:47:56 |\n| 19 | that.<br>Obviously, my understanding, he was working on | 14:48:02 |\n| 20 | this before.                                            | 14:48:05 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did -- do you recall having              | 14:48:06 |\n| 22 | conversations with Mr. Shulman?                         | 14:48:08 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                   | 14:48:11 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>And you recall Mr. Shulman -- that is             | 14:48:12 |\n| 25 | S-h-u-l-m, like Mary, a-n.                              | 14:48:18 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 171 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 197\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | You recall him being a lawyer at                    | 14:48:22 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Williams & Connolly; is that right?                 | 14:48:25 |\n| 3  | A.<br>He is attorney of William Connolly, yes.      | 14:48:28 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And did you say -- make sure I heard | 14:48:31 |\n| 5  | you correctly.                                      | 14:48:34 |\n| 6  | Did you say that -- that he and                     | 14:48:34 |\n| 7  | Williams & Connolly represented Qiang Guo?          | 14:48:38 |\n| 8  | A.<br>In these .pdf -- in these exhibit,            | 14:48:41 |\n| 9  | William Connolly, Jerry Shulman -- Jerry represents | 14:48:51 |\n| 10 | Golden Spring Limited also.                         | 14:48:56 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did -- did Mr. Shulman represent     | 14:48:58 |\n| 12 | Qiang Guo?                                          | 14:49:01 |\n| 13 | A.<br>I --                                          | 14:49:02 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Because I believe that is what you said       | 14:49:06 |\n| 15 | a few minutes ago.<br>I'm just trying to make sure  | 14:49:08 |\n|    |                                                     |          |\n\n15 a few minutes ago. I'm just trying to make sure 14:49:08 16 I heard you correctly. 14:49:11 17 A. I believe so. 14:49:13 18 Q. Okay. To your knowledge, did Mr. Shulman of 14:49:14 19 Williams & Connolly represent Ho Wan Kwok? 14:49:19 20 A. I don't know that. 14:49:22 21 Q. Okay. The -- the document that is on the 14:49:25 22 screen there says that the reason the charter became 14:49:31 23 inoperative and void was for nonpayment of taxes 14:49:37 24 and/or failure to file a complete annual report. 14:49:42 25 Do you know which of those reasons, or both 14:49:50\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 198 of 280\n\n| 1  | reasons, were why the charter of Golden Spring became   | 14:49:55 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | inoperative and void?                                   | 14:50:03 |\n| 3  | A.<br>As I said, before me, what happened I don't       | 14:50:05 |\n| 4  | know.<br>But since I was appointed, Golden Spring never | 14:50:14 |\n| 5  | has this problem.                                       | 14:50:20 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Well, it apparently had the problem      | 14:50:21 |\n| 7  | for six months after you were appointed because the     | 14:50:24 |\n| 8  | certificate of revival wasn't filed until October; so   | 14:50:28 |\n| 9  | I'll ask the same question.<br>And maybe you don't      | 14:50:35 |\n| 10 | know.<br>It is okay if you don't know, but all I can do | 14:50:37 |\n| 11 | is ask.                                                 | 14:50:40 |\n| 12 | Do you know what the reason was why the                 | 14:50:41 |\n| 13 | charter became inoperative and void?                    | 14:50:45 |\n| 14 | A.<br>I don't know the reason, but I am not able        | 14:50:53 |\n| 15 | to fix everything that happened before me from day      | 14:50:56 |\n| 16 | one I was appointed; right?                             | 14:51:00 |\n| 17 | So the six months, that is a fair time.<br>But          | 14:51:02 |\n| 18 | I need to spend on time and then start to catch up      | 14:51:04 |\n| 19 | and fix what happened before me.                        | 14:51:08 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Yeah.<br>And thank you.                           | 14:51:09 |\n| 21 | You requested a short break.                            | 14:51:19 |\n| 22 | MR. HARBACH:<br>And why don't we take that              | 14:51:21 |\n| 23 | now.                                                    | 14:51:23 |\n| 24 | Just so everybody knows -- I hesitate to say            | 14:51:24 |\n| 25 | it, but I'm close to finishing up.<br>Why don't we take | 14:51:28 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 173 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 199 of 280\n\n| 1  | a break until 3:00 o'clock.                           | 14:51:33 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are going off the             | 14:51:36 |\n| 3  | record.                                               | 14:51:37 |\n| 4  | The time is 2:51 p.m.                                 | 14:51:37 |\n| 5  | (Short recess taken.)                                 | 15:02:54 |\n| 6  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are back on the               | 15:02:54 |\n| 7  | record.                                               | 15:02:57 |\n| 8  | The time is 3:02.                                     | 15:02:57 |\n| 9  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Apologies, everyone.<br>There         | 15:03:28 |\n| 10 | was a loud announcement on our loudspeakers here.     | 15:03:30 |\n| 11 | That is why I remained muted.                         | 15:03:34 |\n| 12 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 15:03:34 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>One cleanup question, Ms. Wang, before we       | 15:03:38 |\n| 14 | proceed to the next topic.                            | 15:03:42 |\n| 15 | Could you describe one successful investment          | 15:03:44 |\n| 16 | that Golden Spring (New York) has made since you have | 15:03:49 |\n| 17 | been president?                                       | 15:03:53 |\n| 18 | A.<br>Since I was appointed as a president; so the    | 15:03:55 |\n| 19 | first job, of course, is build up the entire team and | 15:04:10 |\n| 20 | then start back to the operation.<br>And then we did  | 15:04:13 |\n| 21 | have some projects in discussion and then develop.    | 15:04:22 |\n| 22 | But because of a Pacific Alliance branded lawsuit,    | 15:04:26 |\n| 23 | I mean, our bank balance was very seriously hurt; so  | 15:04:35 |\n| 24 | we were not able to complete the full investment      | 15:04:39 |\n| 25 | project.<br>But we did have some -- very prospective  | 15:04:43 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 200 of 280\n\n| 1  | one before.                                           | 15:04:49 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Leaving aside the prospective one, is  | 15:04:50 |\n| 3  | there any investment project that Golden Spring has   | 15:04:55 |\n| 4  | done that has succeeded since you have been           | 15:05:02 |\n| 5  | president?                                            | 15:05:05 |\n| 6  | A.<br>As I just explained, because our banking        | 15:05:06 |\n| 7  | relationship was hurted by Pacific Alliance; so we    | 15:05:10 |\n| 8  | were not able to complete a full successful           | 15:05:16 |\n| 9  | project -- investment project.                        | 15:05:20 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So -- so the answer is no?             | 15:05:22 |\n| 11 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 15:05:25 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Did you know Qiang Guo before you      | 15:05:26 |\n| 13 | became an officer and director of Golden Spring       | 15:05:37 |\n| 14 | (New York) Limited?                                   | 15:05:42 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 15:05:42 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Can you describe for me one            | 15:05:42 |\n| 17 | successful business enterprise that Qiang Guo has     | 15:05:48 |\n| 18 | launched since you have known him.                    | 15:05:54 |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't want to put his business, any           | 15:05:57 |\n| 20 | specific name, at any risk for obvious reason.<br>But | 15:06:06 |\n| 21 | what I can tell you is that he has been very          | 15:06:10 |\n| 22 | successful in the investment world for -- in -- in    | 15:06:13 |\n| 23 | all of -- in different countries.                     | 15:06:19 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>And isn't it true that the -- the money that    | 15:06:21 |\n| 25 | he got to invest came from his father?                | 15:06:25 |\n|    |                                                       |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 201\n\n1 A. No. 15:06:30\n\nof 280\n\n| 2 | Q.<br>Where did it come from?                         | 15:06:31 |\n|---|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 3 | A.<br>It come from his own successful investment.     | 15:06:33 |\n| 4 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>I'm asking about the money that he     | 15:06:42 |\n| 5 | originally invested to become successful, didn't that | 15:06:46 |\n| 6 | come from his father?                                 | 15:06:52 |\n| 7 | A.<br>No.                                             | 15:06:54 |\n| 8 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Where did it come from?                | 15:06:55 |\n|   |                                                       |          |\n\n| 5  | originally invested to become successful, didn't that | 15:06:46 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 6  | come from his father?                                 | 15:06:52 |\n| 7  | A.<br>No.                                             | 15:06:54 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Where did it come from?                | 15:06:55 |\n| 9  | A.<br>What I -- what I learned is that it come        | 15:06:58 |\n| 10 | from his family -- his extended family.               | 15:07:05 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Who told you that?                              | 15:07:08 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I learned from him.                             | 15:07:12 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>That is what he told you?                       | 15:07:14 |\n| 14 | A.<br>(Nods head.)                                    | 15:07:17 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Next subject, do you remember earlier  | 15:07:21 |\n| 16 | in our time today I explained to you that there was   | 15:07:28 |\n| 17 | a difference between the -- the DIP loan, which we    | 15:07:31 |\n| 18 | just talked about for some time, and then also loans  | 15:07:35 |\n| 19 | to fund litigation?<br>Do you remember that?          | 15:07:39 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 15:07:43 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so now I want to talk about that   | 15:07:45 |\n| 22 | second category, which is the loans that              | 15:07:50 |\n| 23 | Golden Spring (New York) has made to Ho Wan Kwok for  | 15:07:55 |\n| 24 | litigation.                                           | 15:08:02 |\n| 25 | Okay?                                                 | 15:08:04 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 176 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 202 of 280\n\n| 1  | A. | Yes.                                                  | 15:08:06 |\n|----|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q. | Okay.<br>So I -- for -- for right now I'm not         | 15:08:06 |\n| 3  |    | talking about the DIP loan.                           | 15:08:09 |\n| 4  |    | Do you understand?                                    | 15:08:11 |\n| 5  | A. | Yes.                                                  | 15:08:12 |\n| 6  | Q. | Okay.<br>According to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,                | 15:08:15 |\n| 7  |    | Golden Spring (New York) has loaned him approximately | 15:08:23 |\n| 8  |    | \\$21 million to pay for litigation costs.             | 15:08:29 |\n| 9  |    | My question to you is are you aware of that?          | 15:08:35 |\n| 10 | A. | Yes.                                                  | 15:08:39 |\n| 11 | Q. | Okay.<br>Who requested those loans?                   | 15:08:43 |\n| 12 | A. | Who requested those loans?<br>You mean the --         | 15:08:47 |\n| 13 |    | I mean, can you explain more about the question?      | 15:08:59 |\n| 14 | Q. | Who requested that Golden Spring (New York)           | 15:09:05 |\n| 15 |    | Limited would make those loans to cover               | 15:09:10 |\n| 16 |    | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's litigation costs?                   | 15:09:16 |\n| 17 | A. | I believe they borrowed -- requested from             | 15:09:21 |\n| 18 |    | Mr. Qiang Guo directly, the owner of Golden Spring.   | 15:09:28 |\n| 19 | Q. | By the borrower, you mean Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?            | 15:09:38 |\n| 20 | A. | That's right.                                         | 15:09:38 |\n| 21 | Q. | Are you cap- -- withdrawn.                            | 15:09:44 |\n| 22 |    | So father asked son to make the loans.                | 15:09:45 |\n| 23 |    | Is that what you understand?                          | 15:09:52 |\n| 24 | A. | Yes.                                                  | 15:09:54 |\n| 25 | Q. | Okay.<br>Who approved those loans for                 | 15:09:54 |\n|    |    |                                                       | Page 177 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 203\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | Golden Spring (New York)?                            | 15:10:03 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>They were approved by both Mr. Qiang Guo and   | 15:10:06 |\n| 3  | myself, as the president of Golden Spring.           | 15:10:13 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>How did you become aware of the loans that     | 15:10:18 |\n| 5  | were requested?                                      | 15:10:20 |\n| 6  | A.<br>I heard from Mr. Qiang Guo.                    | 15:10:22 |\n| 7  | Q.<br>Did you have any conversations with            | 15:10:28 |\n| 8  | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok about those loans?                   | 15:10:30 |\n| 9  | A.<br>No.                                            | 15:10:34 |\n| 10 | I don't recall.                                      | 15:10:37 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>You never asked him what the money    | 15:10:38 |\n| 12 | was for?                                             | 15:10:43 |\n| 13 | A.<br>No.                                            | 15:10:44 |\n| 14 | That was a conversation between                      | 15:10:47 |\n| 15 | Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.                   | 15:10:48 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Were any of the litigation loans that | 15:10:51 |\n| 17 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asked for refused?                   | 15:11:04 |\n| 18 | A.<br>Yes.                                           | 15:11:12 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>By whom?                                       | 15:11:14 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Refused by Mr. Qiang Guo.                      | 15:11:17 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Did you agree, in your capacity as             | 15:11:20 |\n| 22 | president, that it should have been refused?         | 15:11:25 |\n| 23 | A.<br>I am aligned with Mr. Qiang Guo's rejection.   | 15:11:29 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Are you ever not aligned with his     | 15:11:35 |\n| 25 | decisions about matters involving millions of        | 15:11:38 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 178 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 204 of 280\n\n1 dollars? 15:11:42 2 A. Yes. 15:11:43 3 Q. Okay. Can you describe occasion on which 15:11:47 4 your opinion prevailed? 15:11:51 5 A. For example, I make all the decision on the 15:11:56 6 daily operation, including outfit -- 15:12:00 7 Q. I'm not asking about -- I'm not asking about 15:12:04 8 daily operations. I'm asking about a decision 15:12:07 9 involving more than a million dollars. 15:12:11 10 Has there ever been -- 15:12:15 11 A. I don't understand what you are asking 15:12:17 12 about. More than a million dollars is very general. 15:12:20 13 I mean, I don't understand what you are asking, sir. 15:12:23 14 Q. Okay. You just told me a moment ago that 15:12:25 15 there have been occasions when you have disagreed 15:12:28 16 with Mr. Qiang Guo; right? 15:12:31 17 A. That's right. 15:12:33 18 Q. Okay. My question to you is has there ever 15:12:34 19 been a disagreement between you and him about 15:12:38 20 a decision that involved more than a million dollars? 15:12:43 21 A. More than a million dollars? 15:12:48 22 Q. Yes. 15:12:52 23 A. I mean, we did have some disagreements in 15:12:53 24 the very beginning about some potential investment 15:12:58 25 project; so we didn't get agreement, and he was 15:13:01 Page 179\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 205 of 280\n\n| 1  | convinced, if that is what you were talking about.       | 15:13:05 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Well, I'm not talking about anything in            | 15:13:11 |\n| 3  | particular.<br>I'm just asking.<br>And I'm trying to get | 15:13:15 |\n| 4  | an understanding of what real authority you have as      | 15:13:18 |\n| 5  | president and treasurer of Golden Spring (New York)      | 15:13:21 |\n| 6  | Limited.<br>Because what you have told me thus far is    | 15:13:24 |\n| 7  | that the DIP loan was approved by Mr. Qiang Guo          | 15:13:28 |\n| 8  | without your input and that it was enough for you        | 15:13:33 |\n| 9  | that he told you that he would take care of it.<br>And   | 15:13:38 |\n| 10 | when it comes to the litigation funding, you have        | 15:13:42 |\n| 11 | told me that father asked son and that you have never    | 15:13:45 |\n| 12 | spoken to father about it, not even to ask him what      | 15:13:49 |\n| 13 | the money was for.                                       | 15:13:51 |\n| 14 | So what I'm trying to understand is what                 | 15:13:53 |\n| 15 | exactly your role is.<br>I mean, I know what your        | 15:13:56 |\n| 16 | titles are, but I'm trying to understand what your       | 15:14:00 |\n| 17 | role is; so that is why I'm asking these questions.      | 15:14:03 |\n| 18 | And so my question is is there an occasion               | 15:14:08 |\n| 19 | you can point to where you disagreed with                | 15:14:13 |\n| 20 | Mr. Qiang Guo over a decision that involved more than    | 15:14:18 |\n| 21 | a million dollars?                                       | 15:14:23 |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes.                                               | 15:14:26 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>How recently?                             | 15:14:27 |\n| 24 | A.<br>What do you mean, how recently?<br>I already       | 15:14:30 |\n| 25 | explained, like, regarding when I was appointed          | 15:14:35 |\n|    |                                                          | Page 180 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 206 of 280\n\n| 1  | and --                                                   | 15:14:38 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.                                              | 15:14:39 |\n| 3  | A.<br>-- disagreements about investment projects.        | 15:14:39 |\n| 4  | I am talking about real estate or investment project     | 15:14:43 |\n| 5  | in New York.                                             | 15:14:47 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And that was --                           | 15:14:47 |\n| 7  | A.<br>I didn't convince him.<br>I didn't convince        | 15:14:49 |\n| 8  | him.<br>They are all more than a million projects;       | 15:14:51 |\n| 9  | right?                                                   | 15:14:54 |\n| 10 | And I -- and I just testified this                       | 15:14:54 |\n| 11 | afternoon -- this morning, and he made decision about    | 15:14:56 |\n| 12 | the vehicles, which I don't align with that.<br>But, of  | 15:15:00 |\n| 13 | course, we didn't get agreement, and he purchased the    | 15:15:06 |\n| 14 | cars.<br>Because I don't agree with that; so that is     | 15:15:09 |\n| 15 | the reason why I don't want to get too much of           | 15:15:12 |\n| 16 | details, even as the president.<br>We are a family       | 15:15:14 |\n| 17 | office; right?                                           | 15:15:18 |\n| 18 | If we don't get aligned and -- that he is                | 15:15:19 |\n| 19 | the owner of the company about the director; right?      | 15:15:21 |\n| 20 | So he made the decision about the vehicles,              | 15:15:25 |\n| 21 | and then I made the decision about the investment        | 15:15:30 |\n| 22 | opportunity.<br>And then we did have disagreement.<br>We | 15:15:33 |\n| 23 | take care of -- we take care of the result by the        | 15:15:35 |\n| 24 | end.                                                     | 15:15:37 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>All right.<br>And so there -- I think     | 15:15:37 |\n|    |                                                          | Page 181 |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 207 of 280\n\n| 1  | I understand your answer, but there are two things    | 15:15:39 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | that I just want to clarify and make sure of.         | 15:15:43 |\n| 3  | Number one, examples of disagreement.                 | 15:15:45 |\n| 4  | I asked you about timing.<br>You just explained that  | 15:15:48 |\n| 5  | one of those examples was when you were appointed in  | 15:15:52 |\n| 6  | 2018 the -- you mentioned a real estate project.      | 15:15:55 |\n| 7  | Understood.                                           | 15:15:59 |\n| 8  | You also mentioned the vehicles just now              | 15:16:00 |\n| 9  | that we were talking about earlier today.             | 15:16:03 |\n| 10 | Any other examples that you can think of?             | 15:16:07 |\n| 11 | A.<br>You are asking me about more than a million,    | 15:16:12 |\n| 12 | which -- I mean, the advisement project, they are     | 15:16:19 |\n| 13 | more than a million.                                  | 15:16:23 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>I understand.<br>And I got that.                | 15:16:24 |\n| 15 | I'm asking whether there are any other                | 15:16:26 |\n| 16 | examples, besides those two.                          | 15:16:29 |\n| 17 | A.<br>We are a family office in here.<br>If you are   | 15:16:32 |\n| 18 | asking about his father's legal thing, I mean that    | 15:16:39 |\n| 19 | his father -- as per Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, his     | 15:16:44 |\n| 20 | father might want to bring some litigation, which he  | 15:16:47 |\n| 21 | was asking my advice, which I give him my advice and  | 15:16:51 |\n| 22 | then he took it to support his father or not.<br>That | 15:16:56 |\n| 23 | happened also.                                        | 15:16:59 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>With respect -- with respect to the -- the      | 15:17:00 |\n| 25 | vehicles, I believe you said that even though you     | 15:17:05 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 182 |\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions 866 299-5127\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 208 of 280\n\n| 1  | disagreed, Mr. Qiang Guo decided to buy the vehicles  | 15:17:09 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | anyway; right?                                        | 15:17:14 |\n| 3  | A.<br>That's right.                                   | 15:17:16 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And isn't that true that, in general,  | 15:17:19 |\n| 5  | if you disagree, as you said, Mr. Qiang Guo is going  | 15:17:29 |\n| 6  | to be the one who decides, according to you?          | 15:17:34 |\n| 7  | A.<br>No.                                             | 15:17:38 |\n| 8  | It is -- it happened on his side also.<br>If          | 15:17:41 |\n| 9  | I don't disagree, he will go with me.                 | 15:17:46 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Can you think of an example where you  | 15:17:49 |\n| 11 | have disagreed and your point of view prevailed and   | 15:17:57 |\n| 12 | the decision at issue involved more than a million    | 15:18:10 |\n| 13 | dollars?                                              | 15:18:14 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Sir, I just replied to your question.<br>Like,  | 15:18:17 |\n| 15 | the real estate property investment project.          | 15:18:21 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Besides -- besides that one.                    | 15:18:25 |\n| 17 | A.<br>I mean, as I explained, that is our business    | 15:18:29 |\n| 18 | plan; right?                                          | 15:18:32 |\n| 19 | We do real estate investment.                         | 15:18:33 |\n| 20 | I already testified that as a family office;          | 15:18:35 |\n| 21 | right?                                                | 15:18:38 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>I'm -- I'm going to interpret your answer as    | 15:18:39 |\n| 23 | that is the only example you can think of.            | 15:18:42 |\n| 24 | A.<br>I don't agree.<br>I don't agree.<br>This is not | 15:18:44 |\n| 25 | my answer.<br>I give you my answer very clear.        | 15:18:47 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 183 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 209 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Well, then tell me -- tell me another            | 15:18:50 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | example then.<br>Tell me another example of a decision | 15:18:54 |\n| 3  | involving more than a million dollars with which you   | 15:18:57 |\n| 4  | disagree and your opinion prevailed, besides the real  | 15:19:00 |\n| 5  | estate project that you have already mentioned three   | 15:19:05 |\n| 6  | times.                                                 | 15:19:08 |\n| 7  | Any other example?                                     | 15:19:09 |\n| 8  | A.<br>I answered already.                              | 15:19:12 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Are any of the \\$21 million in litigation        | 15:19:14 |\n| 10 | loans to Golden Spring (New York) expected to be       | 15:19:29 |\n| 11 | repaid?                                                | 15:19:32 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 15:19:34 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Are any of the loans in writing?                 | 15:19:34 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 15:19:41 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Have you seen the -- the documents for any       | 15:19:41 |\n| 16 | of the loans?                                          | 15:19:49 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 15:19:53 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Where are they?                                  | 15:19:53 |\n| 19 | A.<br>They are in my office.                           | 15:19:55 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>On East 64th Street or wherever?                 | 15:20:02 |\n| 21 | A.<br>What do you mean, wherever?                      | 15:20:09 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>I'm sorry.<br>I'm trying to avoid using the      | 15:20:11 |\n| 23 | exact address.                                         | 15:20:15 |\n| 24 | Are they at the family office in                       | 15:20:15 |\n| 25 | New York City?                                         | 15:20:18 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 184 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 210 of 280\n\n| 1  | A.<br>I believe in the morning of -- this morning      | 15:20:18 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | I already testified my address, which you have it,     | 15:20:21 |\n| 3  | sir.<br>It is on the 64th Street office, Golden Spring | 15:20:25 |\n| 4  | (New York)'s office.                                   | 15:20:29 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.                                            | 15:20:29 |\n| 6  | A.<br>You don't need to avoid mentioning the           | 15:20:30 |\n| 7  | address, sir.<br>You have it.                          | 15:20:34 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Well, forgive me for being extra careful in      | 15:20:36 |\n| 9  | light of your security concerns.                       | 15:20:40 |\n| 10 | A.<br>Thank you.                                       | 15:20:43 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Is that -- is that the address where the         | 15:20:44 |\n| 12 | loan documents are located?                            | 15:20:45 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Correct.                                         | 15:20:47 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>How many such loan documents are there?          | 15:20:47 |\n| 15 | A.<br>Several of them.                                 | 15:20:51 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>More than ten?                                   | 15:20:52 |\n| 17 | A.<br>Several of them.                                 | 15:20:58 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Do you know whether it is more than ten or       | 15:21:00 |\n| 19 | not?                                                   | 15:21:02 |\n| 20 | A.<br>I replied, several of them.                      | 15:21:04 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Did you sign them?                               | 15:21:07 |\n| 22 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 15:21:11 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Who signed them for the borrower?                | 15:21:12 |\n| 24 | A.<br>The borrower signed it.                          | 15:21:19 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>Who is the borrower?                             | 15:21:23 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 185 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 211\n\n| 1  | A.<br>Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.                               | 15:21:25 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Were you present when he signed them? | 15:21:27 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I don't recall.                                | 15:21:30 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>How many of the \\$21 million in loan  | 15:21:33 |\n| 5  | are undocumented?                                    | 15:21:42 |\n| 6  | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>I couldn't give you the     | 15:21:44 |\n| 7  | precise number.                                      | 15:21:50 |\n| 8  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>Well, we'll -- we'll        | 15:21:51 |\n| 9  | request -- Scott, we'll request that Golden Spring   | 15:21:54 |\n| 10 | (New York) Limited immediately produce to us all of  | 15:21:59 |\n| 11 | the documents that the witness has just described,   | 15:22:02 |\n| 12 | namely, the loan agreements substantiating any       | 15:22:09 |\n| 13 | portion of the \\$21 million in litigation loans that | 15:22:13 |\n| 14 | the debtor has taken out from Golden Spring          | 15:22:16 |\n| 15 | (New York).                                          | 15:22:20 |\n| 16 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I understand the request, and we       | 15:22:21 |\n| 17 | will take it under advisement.                       | 15:22:23 |\n| 18 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.                                | 15:22:25 |\n| 19 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 15:22:29 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Ms. Wang, are you familiar with the terms of   | 15:22:29 |\n| 21 | any of those loans, meaning the litigation loans?    | 15:22:32 |\n| 22 | A.<br>They are loans.<br>They have interest.<br>They | 15:22:36 |\n| 23 | should be paid back.                                 | 15:22:43 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>What interest rate?                            | 15:22:44 |\n| 25 | A.<br>I couldn't remember clearly.<br>I couldn't     | 15:22:46 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 186 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 212 of 280\n\n1 remember clearly. Like, 2, 3 percent. I couldn't 15:22:53 2 remember. 15:22:56 3 Q. Who negotiated the interest rate on those 15:22:56 4 loans for Golden Spring (New York)? 15:22:59 5 A. Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we designed it. 15:23:01 6 Q. Who negotiated with the -- the borrower, 15:23:06 7 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, for the interest rate on these 15:23:13 8 loans? 15:23:16 9 A. I don't recall. 15:23:18 10 Q. Did you communicate with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 15:23:21 11 about the interest rate on these loans? 15:23:26 12 A. I don't recall. 15:23:29 13 Q. Is the interest rate the same on all of the 15:23:32 14 loans? 15:23:38 15 A. As far as I know, I remember, yes. 15:23:39 16 Q. Is the total figure of approximately 15:23:45 17 \\$21 million in litigation loans about correct, to 15:23:50 18 your recollection? 15:23:56 19 A. Approximately number -- yes. Correct. 15:23:57 20 Q. Okay. And approximately how much of that 15:24:02 21 21 million is in documented loans? 15:24:05 22 A. I don't have it on the top of my head. 15:24:08 23 MR. ROSEN: Can I ask, David, can you please 15:24:18 24 clarify. 15:24:21 25 When you say documented loans, what 15:24:22 Page 187\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 213 of 280\n\n| 1  | specifically do you mean by documented?                 | 15:24:25 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sure.                                   | 15:24:28 |\n| 3  | What I mean is that the witness has                     | 15:24:30 |\n| 4  | indicated earlier in her testimony that some of the     | 15:24:34 |\n| 5  | loans were in writing and that there were loan          | 15:24:38 |\n| 6  | agreements; so that is how I interpreted her answer.    | 15:24:44 |\n| 7  | And I -- and I gather that some of them were and some   | 15:24:47 |\n| 8  | of them weren't.<br>And so when I say documented loans, | 15:24:50 |\n| 9  | I mean the loans for which there is a written loan      | 15:24:54 |\n| 10 | agreement that she signed and that the borrower         | 15:24:58 |\n| 11 | signed.                                                 | 15:25:03 |\n| 12 | Does that help?                                         | 15:25:05 |\n| 13 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes.                                      | 15:25:06 |\n| 14 | Thank you.                                              | 15:25:08 |\n| 15 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.                                   | 15:25:09 |\n| 16 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 15:25:10 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>So Ms. Wang, does that change -- that             | 15:25:10 |\n| 18 | doesn't change any of your answers, I assume.           | 15:25:13 |\n| 19 | Did you understand what I meant?                        | 15:25:15 |\n| 20 | A.<br>I replied my question.<br>That is the best of     | 15:25:17 |\n| 21 | my knowledge for this second.                           | 15:25:22 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So just to make -- just to -- to         | 15:25:24 |\n| 23 | recap and make sure I understand.                       | 15:25:27 |\n| 24 | There is approximately \\$21 million in                  | 15:25:31 |\n| 25 | litigation loans that have been made by Golden Spring   | 15:25:35 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 188 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 214 of 280\n\n| 1  | (New York) to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?               | 15:25:39 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 15:25:41 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>And some of those loans are -- are              | 15:25:47 |\n| 4  | documented, by which I mean there is a written loan   | 15:25:50 |\n| 5  | agreement; correct?                                   | 15:25:55 |\n| 6  | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 15:25:57 |\n| 7  | Besides that, we do have notes, like, on our          | 15:25:59 |\n| 8  | financial book that recorded as a loan also.          | 15:26:06 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And then some of those loans do not    | 15:26:08 |\n| 10 | have a -- a loan agreement in writing; correct?       | 15:26:11 |\n| 11 | A.<br>But in our financial records it is              | 15:26:16 |\n| 12 | documented as a loan; correct.                        | 15:26:20 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>I understand.<br>I understand.                  | 15:26:22 |\n| 14 | But my point is for those, there is not               | 15:26:24 |\n| 15 | a loan agreement that you signed and that             | 15:26:28 |\n| 16 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok signed that contains an interest rate | 15:26:31 |\n| 17 | and formal terms; right?                              | 15:26:36 |\n| 18 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 15:26:40 |\n| 19 | There were some other loans between                   | 15:26:41 |\n| 20 | Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok also.               | 15:26:45 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 15:26:47 |\n| 22 | A.<br>So financial notes was the loan agreement       | 15:26:48 |\n| 23 | and then with our loan --                             | 15:26:52 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 15:26:55 |\n| 25 | A.<br>-- agreement.                                   | 15:26:56 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 189 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 215 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>And so for the ones -- not the ones that        | 15:26:57 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | were oral, but the ones that are in writing, you said | 15:26:59 |\n| 3  | those documents are currently at the East 64th Street | 15:27:04 |\n| 4  | office; correct?                                      | 15:27:12 |\n| 5  | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 15:27:13 |\n| 6  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>So Scott, it is those        | 15:27:15 |\n| 7  | documents that we are requesting.                     | 15:27:19 |\n| 8  | MR. ROSEN:<br>I understand.                           | 15:27:20 |\n| 9  | Thank you.                                            | 15:27:22 |\n| 10 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 15:27:22 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Now, Ms. Wang, with respect to the     | 15:27:23 |\n| 12 | oral loans, who recorded them?                        | 15:27:26 |\n| 13 | A.<br>What do you mean, who recorded them?<br>For     | 15:27:31 |\n| 14 | Golden Spring?                                        | 15:27:34 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Yes, ma'am.                                     | 15:27:34 |\n| 16 | I think you just mentioned a moment ago that          | 15:27:35 |\n| 17 | even the loans that were not documented with a loan   | 15:27:39 |\n| 18 | agreement were recorded on the books of Golden Spring | 15:27:41 |\n| 19 | (New York); right?                                    | 15:27:46 |\n| 20 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 15:27:47 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>So I'm asking who recorded them on the          | 15:27:47 |\n| 22 | books?                                                | 15:27:50 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Golden Spring's finance.                        | 15:27:51 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Was that at your direction?            | 15:27:55 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Correct.                                        | 15:27:59 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 190 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 216 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>How did you learn about the terms of those       | 15:28:00 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | oral loans?                                            | 15:28:04 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I got to know from Mr. Qiang Guo also.           | 15:28:07 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>Were you personally involved in negotiating      | 15:28:10 |\n| 5  | any or -- or tendering any oral loans to               | 15:28:16 |\n| 6  | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?                                       | 15:28:22 |\n| 7  | A.<br>I didn't attend the -- the conversation          | 15:28:23 |\n| 8  | between Mr. Qiang Guo and his father, no.<br>I didn't. | 15:28:30 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Has Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever asked you for           | 15:28:33 |\n| 10 | a loan from Golden Spring?                             | 15:28:36 |\n| 11 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                  | 15:28:38 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>Does that mean it is possible that he has?       | 15:28:40 |\n| 13 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                  | 15:28:49 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>With apologies if I asked you this question      | 15:28:57 |\n| 15 | before.<br>I honestly don't remember.                  | 15:29:00 |\n| 16 | Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok                | 15:29:02 |\n| 17 | about any of the litigation loans, whether oral or     | 15:29:06 |\n| 18 | written?                                               | 15:29:11 |\n| 19 | A.<br>I don't recall.                                  | 15:29:12 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Were you personally involved in helping          | 15:29:13 |\n| 21 | Mr. Kwok fill out his bankruptcy schedules and his     | 15:29:33 |\n| 22 | statement of financial affairs?                        | 15:29:38 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.<br>The witness is not         | 15:29:41 |\n| 24 | here to testify in her personal capacity.<br>I would   | 15:29:44 |\n| 25 | ask you to rephrase the question.                      | 15:29:48 |\n|    |                                                        | Page 191 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 217 of 280\n\n| 1  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Sure.                                   | 15:29:50 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 15:29:51 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Was Golden Spring (New York) Limited              | 15:29:52 |\n| 4  | involved in assisting Mr. Kwok in filling out his       | 15:29:54 |\n| 5  | bankruptcy schedules or his statement of financial      | 15:29:58 |\n| 6  | affairs?                                                | 15:30:01 |\n| 7  | A.<br>No.                                               | 15:30:03 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>What about Mr. Kwok's monthly operating           | 15:30:04 |\n| 9  | reports?<br>Do you know what those are?                 | 15:30:14 |\n| 10 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 15:30:17 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Was anyone at Golden Spring              | 15:30:20 |\n| 12 | (New York) involved in helping prepare                  | 15:30:24 |\n| 13 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's monthly operating reports?            | 15:30:28 |\n| 14 | A.<br>We were requested to pull out his lifestyle       | 15:30:31 |\n| 15 | expenses.<br>That is, I directed Golden Spring to help. | 15:30:40 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Who made the request to you?             | 15:30:47 |\n| 17 | A.<br>I couldn't remember.<br>Probably his attorney.    | 15:30:49 |\n| 18 | I couldn't remember.                                    | 15:30:57 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And if I understand you correctly,       | 15:30:58 |\n| 20 | you directed one of your employees to assist?           | 15:31:00 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Correct.                                          | 15:31:06 |\n| 22 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>And I'll just note for         | 15:31:07 |\n| 23 | the record, Scott, that I won't ask who that person     | 15:31:09 |\n| 24 | is because I understand that you will object on the     | 15:31:17 |\n| 25 | same basis as before.<br>And I'll just note that we     | 15:31:20 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 218 of 280\n\n| 1  | continue to disagree with that objection.             | 15:31:24 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | Is that okay?                                         | 15:31:26 |\n| 3  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes.                                    | 15:31:27 |\n| 4  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                       | 15:31:35 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Do you know what the firm Verdolino & Lowey     | 15:31:35 |\n| 6  | is?                                                   | 15:31:42 |\n| 7  | A.<br>Verdolino Lowey.                                | 15:31:43 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Have you ever heard of them?                    | 15:31:45 |\n| 9  | A.<br>No.                                             | 15:31:48 |\n| 10 | I don't recall.                                       | 15:31:53 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you know who Craig Jalbert is?      | 15:31:53 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I don't know this name.                         | 15:31:59 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 15:31:59 |\n| 14 | A.<br>Craig Jalbert.                                  | 15:32:02 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>This may seem obvious from your earlier         | 15:32:03 |\n| 16 | answer, but please bear with me.                      | 15:32:15 |\n| 17 | Leaving aside the person's name, is it true           | 15:32:18 |\n| 18 | that there are personnel at Golden Spring (New York)  | 15:32:26 |\n| 19 | Limited who could assist in compiling and calculating | 15:32:31 |\n| 20 | the lifestyle expenses of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?            | 15:32:40 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 15:32:48 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Focusing now just for a moment on those         | 15:32:49 |\n| 23 | lifestyle expenses.                                   | 15:33:07 |\n| 24 | Okay?                                                 | 15:33:10 |\n| 25 | A.<br>Yes.                                            | 15:33:12 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 193 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 219 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Has -- has Mr. Kwok ever made any requests      | 15:33:12 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | to you to have Golden Spring (New York) pay for       | 15:33:21 |\n| 3  | expenses related to his lifestyle?                    | 15:33:28 |\n| 4  | Excuse me.                                            | 15:33:31 |\n| 5  | A.<br>I don't recall, but it is possible.             | 15:33:33 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>What I'm asking about is, you know,    | 15:33:39 |\n| 7  | hey, Yvette, I need Golden Spring to pay for me to    | 15:33:46 |\n| 8  | drive to Manhattan or I need Golden Spring to pay for | 15:33:52 |\n| 9  | this suit that I need for my trip to court -- things  | 15:33:57 |\n| 10 | like that.                                            | 15:34:02 |\n| 11 | Does he make requests to you like that?               | 15:34:03 |\n| 12 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>But there was some requests  | 15:34:06 |\n| 13 | that he made -- he made to me, like, as before, like, | 15:34:15 |\n| 14 | buy some very expensive, like, furniture, I believe.  | 15:34:19 |\n| 15 | And I -- obviously, it is more than his lifestyle.    | 15:34:22 |\n| 16 | I report it to Mr. Qiang Guo, and Mr. Qiang Guo       | 15:34:26 |\n| 17 | reject it --                                          | 15:34:29 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Okay.                                           | 15:34:29 |\n| 19 | A.<br>-- so I reject it to him also.                  | 15:34:30 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Right.                                          | 15:34:32 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Yeah.                                           | 15:34:34 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>I'm asking about, you know, day-to-day          | 15:34:34 |\n| 23 | stuff, like the -- however -- you know, I don't mind  | 15:34:37 |\n| 24 | telling you it has been a real mystery to all of us   | 15:34:43 |\n| 25 | creditors and, I think, to the U.S. Trustee how       | 15:34:48 |\n|    |                                                       | Page 194 |\n\n## Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 220\n\nMr. Kwok pays for things. We really have had 15:34:52\n\na difficult time figuring out how that happens. And 15:34:55\n\n| 3  | so I am hoping that you can help me understand        | 15:34:58 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 4  | a little bit because, according to him, Golden Spring | 15:35:01 |\n| 5  | (New York) Limited pays for all this stuff.<br>And    | 15:35:04 |\n| 6  | since you are the president and treasurer of          | 15:35:07 |\n| 7  | Golden Spring (New York) Limited, I'm hoping you can  | 15:35:09 |\n| 8  | help us understand.                                   | 15:35:14 |\n| 9  | So I know we talked earlier about your                | 15:35:15 |\n| 10 | review of credit card bills and -- and so forth, but  | 15:35:17 |\n\n review of credit card bills and -- and so forth, but 15:35:17 for something like that, say Mr. -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 15:35:21 needs to take a trip into Manhattan for some reason 15:35:26 and he needs a car. 15:35:30\n\n14 Does he come to you? I mean, you say you 15:35:33 run the day-to-day operations of Golden Spring. 15:35:36 16 Does he come to you or -- or send you 15:35:40 a message and say, hey, I need a car set up? I mean, 15:35:42 how does that work? 15:35:46\n\n19 A. Okay. So to reply to this specific 15:35:48 question, as the president of a company, I mean, 15:35:50 I already don't deal with this kind of very small 15:35:53 request from him; so Golden Spring does have 15:35:57 a security which, as you understood probably, sir, 15:36:01 like as per Mr. Qiang, was a regiment because 15:36:06 Mr. Qiang would -- does care the most is the life 15:36:13\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 221 of 280\n\n| 1  | safety of his father; so the communication that        | 15:36:17 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | happens between Ho Wan Kwok and the security to        | 15:36:21 |\n| 3  | arrange the trip to Manhattan; so that one I don't     | 15:36:22 |\n| 4  | need to get involved because it is too small for me.   | 15:36:26 |\n| 5  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And then what about other day-to-day    | 15:36:30 |\n| 6  | lifestyle needs, like in a recent proceeding the --    | 15:36:34 |\n| 7  | the U.S. Trustee asked about what if he needed to buy  | 15:36:42 |\n| 8  | a pair of shoes?                                       | 15:36:47 |\n| 9  | Just walk us through how that happens.                 | 15:36:49 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I don't even -- I mean, yes.<br>I review some    | 15:36:52 |\n| 11 | of the credit card bill or the bills, but I do have    | 15:36:56 |\n| 12 | my finance.<br>I mean, I don't need to do finance job. | 15:37:00 |\n| 13 | I don't even remember to see very often he buys        | 15:37:04 |\n| 14 | shoes.<br>I mean --                                    | 15:37:09 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Does he buy anything?                            | 15:37:12 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Yes.                                             | 15:37:14 |\n| 17 | He buy -- he buy clothes, yes.                         | 15:37:16 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So how does he buy clothes?             | 15:37:20 |\n| 19 | A.<br>He buy clothes from the shops, I believe.        | 15:37:23 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Does he physically go to the shops or   | 15:37:28 |\n| 21 | does he shop online?                                   | 15:37:32 |\n| 22 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Scott, I promise I am just             | 15:37:34 |\n| 23 | trying to understand.<br>I don't -- I won't dwell here | 15:37:37 |\n| 24 | unnecessarily.                                         | 15:37:39 |\n| 25 | ///                                                    |          |\n|    |                                                        | Page 196 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 222 of 280\n\n1 BY MR. HARBACH: 15:37:40 2 Q. Go ahead, Ms. Wang. 15:37:41 3 A. I don't get involves in his personal life; 15:37:43 4 so I cannot say. 15:37:47 5 Q. So you don't -- you don't know whether he 15:37:48 6 likes to go in the stores to shop or he shops online? 15:37:51 7 A. I do see bills from the shops, which 15:37:57 8 I verify. I have the finance verify that it was his 15:38:03 9 purchase. 15:38:08 10 Q. Okay. 15:38:08 11 A. We take care of that; so I don't need to 15:38:09 12 follow him -- 15:38:13 13 Q. All right. 15:38:13 14 A. -- where he goes; right? 15:38:14 15 So I don't know -- 15:38:14 16 Q. No. 15:38:17 17 I -- I know that. I'm not suggesting you 15:38:17 18 follow him. 15:38:19 19 What I'm really just trying to understand is 15:38:20 20 how does the transaction happen? Mr. Kwok walks into 15:38:23 21 Saks Fifth Avenue and sees a suit he wants to buy. 15:38:29 22 Let's just pretend that's what happens. 15:38:35 23 Okay? 15:38:37 24 And he is in there, and he says, I like that 15:38:38 25 suit. And he tries it on, and it looks good, and so 15:38:41 Page 197\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 223\n\n|   | of 280                                     |          |  |\n|---|--------------------------------------------|----------|--|\n| 1 | he wants to buy it.                        | 15:38:45 |  |\n| 2 | What happens next?<br>How does it get from | 15:38:47 |  |\n\n| 3  | there to being on a bill that you see?                  | 15:38:49 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 4  | A.<br>Oh, that doesn't happen often at all.<br>That     | 15:38:54 |\n| 5  | is number one.<br>And that did happen before.<br>Like,  | 15:38:58 |\n| 6  | sometimes I can see from the securities credit          | 15:39:03 |\n| 7  | card -- debit card -- let me correct -- to see that     | 15:39:07 |\n| 8  | purchase.<br>And then, obviously, my finance will dive  | 15:39:10 |\n| 9  | in and verify and confirm that he has purchased.<br>But | 15:39:14 |\n| 10 | that does not happen often at all.                      | 15:39:17 |\n| 11 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Well, you did mention that he buys       | 15:39:21 |\n| 12 | clothes; right?                                         | 15:39:24 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Yes.                                              | 15:39:27 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So you give me an example of how he      | 15:39:28 |\n| 15 | will buy some clothes.                                  | 15:39:34 |\n| 16 | If the Saks Fifth Avenue example doesn't                | 15:39:36 |\n| 17 | happen very often, tell me what does happen.            | 15:39:40 |\n| 18 | A.<br>He just doesn't buy clothes very often, not       | 15:39:43 |\n| 19 | only the shoes at Saks Fifth Avenue.                    | 15:39:49 |\n| 20 | Q.<br>Does Mr. Kwok have a credit card?                 | 15:39:54 |\n| 21 | A.<br>As far as I know, he doesn't have.<br>At least    | 15:40:07 |\n| 22 | Golden Spring never give him.                           | 15:40:12 |\n| 23 | Q.<br>Does he have a debit card?                        | 15:40:14 |\n| 24 | A.<br>Golden Spring didn't give him.                    | 15:40:17 |\n| 25 | Q.<br>How do the things that he does purchase end       | 15:40:20 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 198 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 224 of 280\n\n| 1  | up on a bill that you review?<br>Tell me how that        | 15:40:25 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | happens.                                                 | 15:40:30 |\n| 3  | A.<br>For his clothes, I mean, I know, like,             | 15:40:31 |\n| 4  | Mr. Qiang Guo, he has some shops in Manhattan.<br>When   | 15:40:36 |\n| 5  | he is in Manhattan he -- he -- I mean, quite often       | 15:40:43 |\n| 6  | shopping there, and sometimes I saw the bill from the    | 15:40:49 |\n| 7  | shop, which I -- obviously finance will need to          | 15:40:52 |\n| 8  | verify.<br>If not, Mr. Qiang Guo purchase.<br>But, like, | 15:40:55 |\n| 9  | his father has purchased.<br>That happened before; so    | 15:40:59 |\n| 10 | like -- that is, like, in my understanding               | 15:41:03 |\n| 11 | Mr. Qiang Guo took care of his father.                   | 15:41:06 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>So Mr. Qiang Guo will buy something for his        | 15:41:08 |\n| 13 | dad, finance it.                                         | 15:41:12 |\n| 14 | Golden Spring will verify that how?<br>By                | 15:41:14 |\n| 15 | calling Mr. Qiang Guo and asking him?                    | 15:41:16 |\n| 16 | A.<br>Sometimes we do that, yes.                         | 15:41:19 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And when Mr. Qiang Guo is in the UK,      | 15:41:21 |\n| 18 | as you have told me is where he lives, how does that     | 15:41:27 |\n| 19 | change things?<br>How does Mr. -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok buy    | 15:41:31 |\n| 20 | something while his son is in the UK?                    | 15:41:36 |\n| 21 | A.<br>What do you mean, change things?<br>I mean,        | 15:41:39 |\n| 22 | the shops obviously know Mr. Qiang Guo, whether he is    | 15:41:43 |\n| 23 | in New York or not; so the father came and then          | 15:41:47 |\n| 24 | shopping there.<br>I mean, I don't know what is your     | 15:41:52 |\n| 25 | question, sir.                                           | 15:41:54 |\n|    |                                                          |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 225 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Okay.<br>So I think you do know my question,      | 15:41:55 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | and it is really not hard.<br>But it seems to be really | 15:42:02 |\n| 3  | hard to get an answer to it.                            | 15:42:06 |\n| 4  | How does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok purchase things,               | 15:42:10 |\n| 5  | and how does what -- something that he wants to buy     | 15:42:20 |\n| 6  | and buys end up on a bill for you to review?<br>And you | 15:42:23 |\n| 7  | have given me one example.                              | 15:42:27 |\n| 8  | You said there are times when Mr. Qiang Guo             | 15:42:29 |\n| 9  | will purchase something, and it will then end up on     | 15:42:31 |\n| 10 | a bill for you to review and verify; right?             | 15:42:35 |\n| 11 | A.<br>No.                                               | 15:42:42 |\n| 12 | That is not my answer.<br>You misunderstood             | 15:42:42 |\n| 13 | me, sir.                                                | 15:42:45 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Please explain.                          | 15:42:46 |\n| 15 | A.<br>I will use my translator since you have been      | 15:42:49 |\n| 16 | misunderstanding me along the way, which I don't feel   | 15:42:53 |\n| 17 | you get this.<br>Sorry.                                 | 15:42:57 |\n| 18 | Like, can I have my interpreter --                      | 15:43:01 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Absolutely.                                       | 15:43:04 |\n| 20 | A.<br>-- I mean, to help me.                            | 15:43:05 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Absolutely.                                       | 15:43:06 |\n| 22 | MR. HARBACH:<br>So for clarity of the record,           | 15:43:07 |\n| 23 | Ms. Johnston, the question is I'm trying to             | 15:43:09 |\n| 24 | understand how -- when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok wants to         | 15:43:13 |\n| 25 | purchase something, how does it get -- from the         | 15:43:16 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 200 |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 226 of 280\n\n| 1  | decision by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok to purchase something,     | 15:43:20 |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | how does that end up on a bill that Ms. Wang sees?     | 15:43:25 |\n| 3  | THE INTERPRETER:<br>(Question interpreted.)            | 15:43:29 |\n| 4  | THE WITNESS:<br>(Through the Interpreter)              | 15:43:29 |\n| 5  | Okay.<br>First of all, when I say when I review bills, | 15:44:38 |\n| 6  | those were only in respect to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's        | 15:44:44 |\n| 7  | purchase for clothing and shoes.<br>And Mr. Qiang Guo  | 15:44:47 |\n| 8  | has certain shops he goes to on a regular basis; so    | 15:44:51 |\n| 9  | if his father were to shop there, then the shop would  | 15:44:57 |\n| 10 | know to send the bill to New York Golden Spring; so    | 15:45:02 |\n| 11 | in other words his father's purchase was under         | 15:45:10 |\n| 12 | Mr. Qiang Guo's profile.                               | 15:45:14 |\n| 13 | I don't think maybe you understood what                | 15:45:16 |\n| 14 | I meant.<br>That is why I wanted the interpreter to    | 15:45:18 |\n| 15 | interpret for me.                                      | 15:45:21 |\n| 16 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                        | 15:45:23 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Thank you very much.                             | 15:45:23 |\n| 18 | And I do understand that example.                      | 15:45:26 |\n| 19 | What about for groceries?                              | 15:45:28 |\n| 20 | A.<br>(In English)<br>Groceries, I mean, he lives in   | 15:45:33 |\n| 21 | his wife's house; so if there is any grocery needed    | 15:45:41 |\n| 22 | to be purchased, it is for both of them; so what       | 15:45:45 |\n| 23 | Golden Spring was requested to pull out, like,         | 15:45:51 |\n| 24 | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, his grocery purchase from his wife,   | 15:45:58 |\n| 25 | like a general purchase; so I mean, the husband, the   | 15:46:03 |\n|    |                                                        |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 227 of 280\n\n| 1  | wife live together.<br>He is living in his wife's       | 15:46:08 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | house.<br>It doesn't make sense, like, he buy his own   | 15:46:11 |\n| 3  | stuff, separate account.                                | 15:46:14 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>I understand that.                                | 15:46:15 |\n| 5  | I'm just asking how the groceries are paid              | 15:46:16 |\n| 6  | for.                                                    | 15:46:19 |\n| 7  | A.<br>It paid by Golden Spring also.                    | 15:46:21 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Same question as before.                          | 15:46:26 |\n| 9  | Do they just go to a grocery store and the              | 15:46:29 |\n| 10 | grocery store sends the bill to Golden Spring?<br>Or do | 15:46:34 |\n| 11 | they buy their groceries online?<br>How does that work? | 15:46:38 |\n| 12 | A.<br>Grocery, most of them go with the debit           | 15:46:42 |\n| 13 | card.                                                   | 15:46:46 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>Okay.                                             | 15:46:46 |\n| 15 | A.<br>And buy --                                        | 15:46:47 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>So                                                | 15:46:50 |\n| 17 | A.<br>And buy online also, yes.                         | 15:46:52 |\n| 18 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And so even if the purchase is           | 15:46:53 |\n| 19 | online, some sort of card, like if it is a debit card   | 15:46:56 |\n| 20 | or a credit card, needs to be used; right?              | 15:47:03 |\n| 21 | A.<br>Correct.                                          | 15:47:07 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Who uses that card?                      | 15:47:08 |\n| 23 | A.<br>Who use that card?                                | 15:47:10 |\n| 24 | They -- people.<br>I mean, his wife use it              | 15:47:16 |\n| 25 | also.                                                   | 15:47:20 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 202 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 228 of 280\n\n| 1  | Q.<br>Does he ever use the --                      | 15:47:20 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | A.<br>I mean --                                    | 15:47:23 |\n| 3  | Q.<br>Does he ever use the card?                   | 15:47:24 |\n| 4  | A.<br>I don't think so.<br>He doesn't read English | 15:47:26 |\n| 5  | at all, so                                         | 15:47:30 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>I mean, well, I don't know that you need to  | 15:47:31 |\n| 7  | read English to use a credit card or a debit card. | 15:47:33 |\n| 8  | Does he ever use the card to make purchases        | 15:47:37 |\n| 9  | himself?                                           | 15:47:42 |\n| 10 | A.<br>Which time period you are asking about and   | 15:47:42 |\n| 11 | by what kind of purchase methods?                  | 15:47:44 |\n| 12 | Q.<br>You --                                       | 15:47:44 |\n| 13 | A.<br>If you are asking about online, he doesn't   | 15:47:47 |\n| 14 | read English.                                      | 15:47:50 |\n| 15 | I mean, you have to be able to read English        | 15:47:51 |\n| 16 | to shopping online; right?                         | 15:47:53 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Does that --                                 | 15:47:53 |\n| 18 | A.<br>So with that, I can confirm he doesn't.      | 15:47:54 |\n| 19 | Q.<br>Were -- well, number one, I'm pretty sure    | 15:47:55 |\n| 20 | there are Websites in Chinese.                     | 15:48:00 |\n| 21 | And, number two, let's just stick with the         | 15:48:03 |\n| 22 | grocery example.                                   | 15:48:06 |\n| 23 | Does he ever use the credit card or the            | 15:48:11 |\n| 24 | debit card to buy groceries?                       | 15:48:15 |\n| 25 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Objection.                           | 15:48:19 |\n|    |                                                    | Page 203 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 229\n\n1 THE WITNESS: I don't know. 15:48:20\n\n2 MR. ROSEN: She testified numerous times 15:48:25\n\n3 that he is not authorized as a user of the card, and 15:48:27\n\n4 she has answered this question numerous times. 15:48:30\n\n5 MR. HARBACH: I don't believe she said -- it 15:48:32\n\n|  | of 280 |\n|--|--------|\n|--|--------|\n\n| 6  | wasn't a question of whether he was an authorized  | 15:48:32 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 7  | user.<br>I believe she said that he never used it. | 15:48:35 |\n| 8  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                    | 15:48:38 |\n| 9  | Q.<br>Does his wife use it?                        | 15:48:38 |\n| 10 | A.<br>Use what?                                    | 15:48:40 |\n\n11 Q. The debit card or the credit card to buy 15:48:42\n\n12 groceries? 15:48:47\n\n13 A. It is possible. 15:48:48 14 Q. Do you know one way or the other? 15:48:51\n\n15 A. I mean, I don't live in their home; right? 15:48:59 Who is buying groceries? From my end, I can't see, 15:49:03 like, an Amazon purchase or, like, a Whole Foods 15:49:09 purchase. Who uses those cards? I need to find out. 15:49:11 19 Q. Okay. So it sounds like, from what you just 15:49:14 said, it could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife or it 15:49:19 could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, couldn't it? 15:49:23 22 A. I'm not giving you an answer in here because 15:49:26 I don't know. 15:49:32 24 Q. That is what I'm getting at. You don't 15:49:32 know. 15:49:35\n\n### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 230\n\nof 280\n\n| 1  | From what you are looking at on the bill,               | 15:49:36 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | you don't know who used the card, do you?<br>Do you?    | 15:49:38 |\n| 3  | A.<br>You are talking about grocery?                    | 15:49:47 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>I'm talking about the examples you just           | 15:49:49 |\n| 5  | gave, Whole Foods or whatever else.                     | 15:49:51 |\n| 6  | When you see that on the bill, you just said            | 15:49:53 |\n| 7  | you don't know who uses the card; correct?              | 15:49:56 |\n| 8  | A.<br>The family uses the card.<br>I do know.<br>The    | 15:50:00 |\n| 9  | family uses the card.                                   | 15:50:04 |\n| 10 | Q.<br>Sure.<br>Sure.                                    | 15:50:06 |\n| 11 | And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the                  | 15:50:07 |\n| 12 | family, isn't he?                                       | 15:50:10 |\n| 13 | A.<br>Correct.                                          | 15:50:12 |\n| 14 | But he does not read English at all.                    | 15:50:13 |\n| 15 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Does his wife?                           | 15:50:16 |\n| 16 | A.<br>His wife what?                                    | 15:50:18 |\n| 17 | Q.<br>Does his wife read English?                       | 15:50:21 |\n| 18 | A.<br>I don't believe so.                               | 15:50:24 |\n| 19 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>Give me just thirty            | 15:50:29 |\n| 20 | seconds, please.                                        | 15:50:32 |\n| 21 | BY MR. HARBACH:                                         | 15:53:11 |\n| 22 | Q.<br>Thank you for your patience.<br>Hopefully         | 15:53:12 |\n| 23 | I saved us a little time by taking that break.<br>A few | 15:53:14 |\n| 24 | cleanup questions, and I think we are finished.         | 15:53:19 |\n| 25 | What is your understanding of how                       | 15:53:22 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 205 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 231 of 280\n\n| 1  | Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is going to repay the \\$21 million in   | 15:53:24 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | litigation loans?                                       | 15:53:28 |\n| 3  | A.<br>I don't have understanding.<br>I mean, he need    | 15:53:30 |\n| 4  | to pay back those loans if he win the case and then,    | 15:53:38 |\n| 5  | I mean, I assume there will be some success, and then   | 15:53:42 |\n| 6  | he should pay back the loan.<br>That is all my          | 15:53:46 |\n| 7  | understanding.                                          | 15:53:49 |\n| 8  | Q.<br>Is there a Golden Spring (New York) owned         | 15:53:50 |\n| 9  | car that stays at Mr. and Ms. Kwok's residence?         | 15:53:54 |\n| 10 | A.<br>I don't recall.<br>As I said, I am not a car      | 15:54:06 |\n| 11 | person.<br>I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo will deal with the car | 15:54:09 |\n| 12 | at that part.                                           | 15:54:13 |\n| 13 | Q.<br>Well, doesn't Golden Spring (New York)            | 15:54:14 |\n| 14 | Limited pay for a chauffeur for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?        | 15:54:17 |\n| 15 | A.<br>We pay the employees, yes.                        | 15:54:23 |\n| 16 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>And my question to you isn't about       | 15:54:26 |\n| 17 | what kind of car it is.                                 | 15:54:30 |\n| 18 | I'm just asking whether there is a car and              | 15:54:32 |\n| 19 | a chauffeur that is available to Mr. Kwok whenever he   | 15:54:35 |\n| 20 | needs it.                                               | 15:54:39 |\n| 21 | A.<br>I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo would -- does rent          | 15:54:44 |\n| 22 | a car for his father, and then Golden Spring pay the    | 15:54:50 |\n| 23 | chauffeur.<br>That is what I can confirm.               | 15:54:53 |\n| 24 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>Do you have personal knowledge of who    | 15:54:58 |\n| 25 | owns the residence where they live?                     | 15:55:04 |\n|    |                                                         |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 232 of 280\n\n| 1  | MR. HARBACH:<br>Don't worry, Scott.                 | 15:55:09 |\n|----|-----------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | I won't stay here long.                             | 15:55:11 |\n| 3  | THE WITNESS:<br>You are asking personal             | 15:55:15 |\n| 4  | knowledge?                                          | 15:55:18 |\n| 5  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                     | 15:55:19 |\n| 6  | Q.<br>I'm asking if you know.                       | 15:55:19 |\n| 7  | MR. ROSEN:<br>If you know.<br>It calls for          | 15:55:21 |\n| 8  | yes-or-no answer.                                   | 15:55:26 |\n| 9  | THE WITNESS:<br>I don't have personal               | 15:55:26 |\n| 10 | knowledge.                                          | 15:55:28 |\n| 11 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>I'm going to make          | 15:55:29 |\n| 12 | a request, Scott, to supplement our earlier request | 15:55:30 |\n| 13 | for the loan documents.                             | 15:55:39 |\n| 14 | I'm also going to request that Golden Spring        | 15:55:40 |\n| 15 | (New York) please promptly produce to us the        | 15:55:43 |\n| 16 | notations in the books and records that the witness | 15:55:50 |\n| 17 | referred to as evidencing the oral loans for        | 15:55:55 |\n| 18 | litigation.                                         | 15:56:02 |\n| 19 | Do you understand what I'm talking about?           | 15:56:04 |\n| 20 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I'm just taking notes right now.      | 15:56:07 |\n| 21 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.                               | 15:56:10 |\n| 22 | MR. ROSEN:<br>I believe I understand your           | 15:56:13 |\n| 23 | question, and we will take that under advisement.   | 15:56:15 |\n| 24 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Okay.<br>Those are -- just --       | 15:56:18 |\n| 25 | just one second, please.                            | 15:56:27 |\n|    |                                                     |          |\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions 866 299-5127\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 233 of 280\n\n| 1  | One -- one -- the famous one more question           | 15:57:11 |\n|----|------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | that we lawyers like to ask.                         | 15:57:14 |\n| 3  | BY MR. HARBACH:                                      | 15:57:16 |\n| 4  | Q.<br>You have mentioned a couple of times that      | 15:57:17 |\n| 5  | Golden Spring has enough money to carry on its daily | 15:57:19 |\n| 6  | operations.                                          | 15:57:23 |\n| 7  | What is the operating budget for                     | 15:57:25 |\n| 8  | Golden Spring (New York) for those daily operations? | 15:57:29 |\n| 9  | The annual budget, say, approximately.               | 15:57:34 |\n| 10 | A.<br>The annual is going to be anything             | 15:57:42 |\n| 11 | between -- I mean, operating mean paying the lease,  | 15:57:47 |\n| 12 | paying the employees and office supplies, furniture, | 15:57:54 |\n| 13 | everything.                                          | 15:57:59 |\n| 14 | Q.<br>I'm asking, yeah, everything that you would    | 15:57:59 |\n| 15 | lump under day-to-day operations, as you said        | 15:58:02 |\n| 16 | earlier.                                             | 15:58:06 |\n| 17 | A.<br>I'm answering your question, sir.              | 15:58:07 |\n| 18 | It is anything and everything between annual         | 15:58:10 |\n| 19 | lease between 2 to 3 million, at least -- at least   | 15:58:13 |\n| 20 | the minimal.                                         | 15:58:17 |\n| 21 | Q.<br>Okay.<br>All right.<br>Those are all my        | 15:58:18 |\n| 22 | questions.                                           | 15:58:21 |\n| 23 | MR. HARBACH:<br>I don't know if any of the           | 15:58:23 |\n| 24 | other counsel who have endured this to this point    | 15:58:24 |\n| 25 | want to ask any questions.                           | 15:58:28 |\n|    |                                                      | Page 208 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 234 of 280\n\n| 1  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>It doesn't sound like it.          | 15:58:39 |\n|----|---------------------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | MR. HARBACH:<br>All right.<br>Well, Ms. Wang,           | 15:58:42 |\n| 3  | thank you very much for your time and your patience     | 15:58:44 |\n| 4  | with my questions today.                                | 15:58:48 |\n| 5  | THE VIDEOGRAPHER:<br>We are off the record at           | 15:58:51 |\n| 6  | 3:58 p.m.                                               | 15:58:53 |\n| 7  | And this concludes today's testimony given              | 15:58:54 |\n| 8  | by Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for                | 15:58:57 |\n| 9  | Golden Spring (New York).                               | 15:59:00 |\n| 10 | The total number of media units used was one            | 15:59:00 |\n| 11 | and will be retained by Veritext Legal Solutions.       | 15:59:04 |\n| 12 | MR. HARBACH:<br>This is David Harbach, of               | 16:03:38 |\n| 13 | O'Melveny & Myers, for Pacific Alliance.                | 16:04:03 |\n| 14 | And I would like to supplement the                      | 16:04:06 |\n| 15 | deposition exhibits with one additional exhibit that    | 16:04:10 |\n| 16 | will be called Exhibit 6.                               | 16:04:13 |\n| 17 | (Deposition Exhibit Number 6                            | 16:04:13 |\n| 18 | was marked for identification.)                         | 16:04:16 |\n| 19 | MR. HARBACH:<br>And it is the notice of                 | 16:04:16 |\n| 20 | deposition for today's witness.<br>I have spoken to the | 16:04:21 |\n| 21 | deponent's counsel, Mr. Rosen, and he does not object   | 16:04:25 |\n| 22 | to it being added as an exhibit.                        | 16:04:28 |\n| 23 | MR. ROSEN:<br>Can we put -- put it up on the            | 16:04:32 |\n| 24 | screen?                                                 | 16:04:36 |\n| 25 | MR. HARBACH:<br>Yes.<br>Yes.                            | 16:04:37 |\n|    |                                                         | Page 209 |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 235 of 280\n\n| 1  | My colleague is working on that right now.   | 16:04:39 |\n|----|----------------------------------------------|----------|\n| 2  | THE REPORTER:<br>Mr. Rosen, would you like   | 16:05:30 |\n| 3  | a copy of the transcript?                    | 16:05:35 |\n| 4  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes.                           | 16:06:02 |\n| 5  | THE REPORTER:<br>And would you like a rough? | 16:06:09 |\n| 6  | MR. ROSEN:<br>Yes.                           | 16:06:14 |\n| 7  | Copy to be delivered tonight.                | 16:06:22 |\n| 8  | (4:28 p.m.)                                  |          |\n| 9  | --ooOoo--                                    |          |\n| 10 |                                              |          |\n| 11 |                                              |          |\n| 12 |                                              |          |\n| 13 |                                              |          |\n| 14 |                                              |          |\n| 15 |                                              |          |\n| 16 |                                              |          |\n| 17 |                                              |          |\n| 18 |                                              |          |\n| 19 |                                              |          |\n| 20 |                                              |          |\n| 21 |                                              |          |\n| 22 |                                              |          |\n| 23 |                                              |          |\n| 24 |                                              |          |\n| 25 |                                              |          |\n|    |                                              | Page 210 |\n|    |                                              |          |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 236 of 280\n\n| 1  | STATE OF CALIFORNIA )                           |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------|\n|    | )<br>ss.                                        |\n| 2  | COUNTY OF KERN<br>)                             |\n| 3  |                                                 |\n| 4  | I, YAN PING WANG, do hereby certify:            |\n| 5  | That I have read the foregoing                  |\n| 6  | deposition;                                     |\n| 7  | That I have made such changes in form and/or    |\n| 8  | substance to the within deposition, as might be |\n| 9  | necessary to render the same true and correct;  |\n| 10 | That having made such changes thereon, I        |\n| 11 | hereby subscribe my name to the deposition.     |\n| 12 | I declare, under penalty of perjury, that       |\n| 13 | the foregoing is true and correct.              |\n| 14 | Executed this _____ day of ___________,         |\n| 15 | 2022, at _______________________, California.   |\n| 16 |                                                 |\n| 17 |                                                 |\n| 18 | _____________________________                   |\n| 19 |                                                 |\n| 20 |                                                 |\n| 21 |                                                 |\n| 22 |                                                 |\n| 23 |                                                 |\n| 24 |                                                 |\n| 25 |                                                 |\n|    | Page 211                                        |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 237 of 280\n\n| 1  | STATE OF CALIFORNIA )                                 |\n|----|-------------------------------------------------------|\n|    | ) ss.                                                 |\n| 2  | COUNTY OF KERN<br>)                                   |\n| 3  |                                                       |\n| 4  |                                                       |\n| 5  | I, B. Suzanne Hull, a Certified Shorthand             |\n| 6  | Reporter in the State of California, holding          |\n| 7  | Certificate Number 13495, do hereby certify that      |\n| 8  | YAN PING WANG, the witness named in the foregoing     |\n| 9  | deposition, was by me duly sworn; that said           |\n| 10 | deposition, was taken Tuesday, April 12, 2022, at the |\n| 11 | time and place set forth on the first page hereof.    |\n| 12 | That upon the taking of the deposition, the           |\n| 13 | words of the witness were written down by me in       |\n| 14 | stenotypy and thereafter transcribed by computer      |\n| 15 | under my supervision; that the foregoing is a true    |\n| 16 | and correct transcript of the testimony given by the  |\n| 17 | witness.                                              |\n| 18 | Pursuant to Federal Rule 30(e), transcript            |\n| 19 | review was requested.                                 |\n| 20 | I further certify that I am neither counsel           |\n| 21 | for nor in any way related to any party to said       |\n| 22 | action, nor in any way interested in the result or    |\n| 23 | outcome thereof.                                      |\n| 24 | ///                                                   |\n| 25 | ///                                                   |\n|    |                                                       |\n|    | Page 212                                              |\n\n1 Dated this 12th day of April, 2022, at Bakersfield, California. <%8004,Signature%> 4 B. Suzanne Hull, CSR No. 13495 Page 213 Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 238 of 280\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 239 of 280\n\n| 1  | YAN PING WANG                                                  |\n|----|----------------------------------------------------------------|\n| 2  | goldenspringny@protonmail.com                                  |\n| 3  | April 12, 2022                                                 |\n| 4  | IN RE: HO WAN KWOK                                             |\n| 5  | APRIL 12, 2022, YAN PING WANG, JOB NO. 5181285                 |\n| 6  | The above-referenced transcript has been                       |\n| 7  | completed by Veritext Legal Solutions and                      |\n| 8  | review of the transcript is being handled as follows:          |\n| 9  | __ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)) – Contact Veritext |\n| 10 | to schedule a time to review the original transcript at  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                           |\n| 25 |                                                                |\n|    | Page 214                                                       |\n\n#### Case 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 240 of 280\n\n| 1  | _X_Federal R&S Requested (FRCP 30(e)(1)(B)) – Locked .PDF    |  |  |\n|----|--------------------------------------------------------------|--|--|\n| 2  | Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and    |  |  |\n| 3  | make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included  |  |  |\n| 4  | below, notating the page and line number of the corrections. |  |  |\n| 5  | The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty |  |  |\n| 6  | of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all       |  |  |\n| 7  | appearing counsel within the period of time determined at    |  |  |\n| 8  | the deposition or provided by the Federal Rules.             |  |  |\n| 9  | __ Federal R&S Not Requested - 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171:11,12 172:15      |\n| 216:2                      | 125:25                | 150:8 159:10                          | 179:14 190:16         |\n| 55<br>4:23                 | access<br>103:3,7,13  | 160:1                                 | agree<br>135:2,9      |\n| 6                          | 104:6                 | advisement                            | 137:3 178:21          |\n| 6<br>1:16 5:9,13 7:9       | account<br>124:25     | 111:20 182:12                         | 181:14 183:24,24      |\n| 9:19 20:5,12 26:2          | 125:8,11,14,22        | 186:17 207:23                         | agreement<br>137:16   |\n| 26:11 27:5 37:6            | 126:22 127:1          | affairs<br>191:22                     | 144:18 145:10,17      |\n| 38:6 44:20 65:19           | 128:4,6 202:3         | 192:6                                 | 145:22 146:8,21       |\n| 209:8,16,17                | accounts<br>124:12    | affidavit<br>4:23                     | 146:25 147:8          |\n| 64th<br>7:3 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      |                      |                        |                       |\n\n#### **[assistant - birnbaum]**\n\n| assistant<br>88:25   | authorize<br>104:13                 | 123:10 126:7          | begins<br>47:5 74:10 |\n|----------------------|-------------------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|\n| 89:10,18 92:23       | authorized<br>104:16                | 149:17 170:14         | behalf<br>137:6      |\n| 93:2,9,14,19 95:1    | 164:19 168:14                       | 174:6,20 186:23       | 166:14               |\n| 95:10                | 204:3,6                             | 206:4,6               | beijing<br>86:14,16  |\n| assisted<br>15:25    | automobile<br>110:21                | background<br>26:7    | 86:24                |\n| 89:24                | automobiles                         | 47:13 155:2           | believe<br>13:22     |\n| assisting<br>192:4   | 111:19                              | bakersfield<br>213:2  | 14:14 18:3 21:6    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198:23 202:13,19      |\n|-----------------------|---------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 46:25 162:14          | 18:6                | calculating<br>193:19 | 202:19,20,22,23       |\n| 195:4                 | brownrudnick.c      | calculation<br>70:7   | 203:3,7,7,8,23,24     |\n| blamed<br>86:3        | 2:9,9               | california<br>10:5    | 204:3,11,11 205:2     |\n| blower<br>117:18      | bsilverberg<br>2:9  | 211:1,15 212:1,6      | 205:7,8,9             |\n| book<br>34:2 189:8    | budget<br>208:7,9   | 213:2                 | cards<br>102:16,22    |\n| books<br>190:18,22    | build<br>118:21     | call<br>16:6,20 28:15 | 102:23 103:1          |\n| 207:16                | 174:19              | 43:3 95:25 102:8      | 204:18                |\n| borrowed<br>177:17    | building<br>171:5   | called<br>8:24 9:9,19 | care<br>96:1,4 98:16  |\n| borrower<br>177:19    | business<br>24:24   | 14:18 39:5 86:13      | 98:25 99:5,6          |\n| 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175:17,19 183:17    | cap<br>177:21         | career<br>31:18       |\n| break<br>66:17 67:4   | buy<br>106:3,15,19  | capability<br>154:18  | 164:18                |\n| 111:24 112:3,4        | 107:9,9,15,24       | capacity<br>51:23     | careful<br>185:8      |\n| 126:17,20 167:3       | 108:5 143:7 183:1   | 52:13 54:19 58:7      | carried<br>168:14     |\n| 173:21 174:1          | 194:14 196:7,15     | 60:1 90:8,10,17,23    | carry<br>208:5        |\n| 205:23                | 196:17,17,18,19     | 91:15,21,23 92:1,4    | cars<br>109:22,25     |\n| bridgeport<br>1:3     | 197:21 198:1,15     | 92:5,16 95:5          | 110:4,6 111:17        |\n| 7:13                  | 198:18 199:12,19    | 105:7 141:23          | 181:14                |\n| brief<br>138:19       | 200:5 202:2,11,15   | 178:21 191:24         | case<br>1:7 7:13 11:8 |\n| 142:18                | 202:17 203:24       | captioned<br>167:15   | 14:18,20,22 37:6      |\n| briefed<br>138:1,10   | 204:11              | car<br>108:20 110:3   | 90:15 101:10          |\n| 138:13,16,21,24       | buying<br>204:16    | 111:4 195:13,17       | 129:16 130:20         |\n| 161:18                | buys<br>196:13      | 206:9,10,11,17,18     | 142:22 206:4          |\n| briefing<br>149:16    | 198:11 200:6        | 206:22                | cash<br>127:10,12,13  |\n| briefly<br>144:19,23  | bylaws<br>163:22,25 | card<br>99:21 100:5   | 127:14                |\n| bring<br>182:20       | 164:1,5,11,15       | 101:22,25 102:14      | catch<br>173:18       |\n| broad<br>165:6        | 165:1,3,7,14,17     | 102:17,24 103:4,7     | category<br>123:15    |\n| broken<br>86:3        | c                   | 103:14 104:6,10       | 176:22                |\n| brothers<br>84:10     |                     | 104:15,22,25          | cater<br>92:10        |\n| brought<br>86:10      | c'mon<br>153:15     | 105:1 195:10          | cbshealaw.com         |\n| 87:3                  | ca<br>214:9,12,20   | 196:11 198:7,7,20     | 2:24                  |\n|                       |                     |                       |                       |\n\n**[ccp - completion]**\n\n| ccp<br>214:9,12        | 155:2,2                | close<br>173:25      | 99:3 150:22,25       |\n|------------------------|------------------------|----------------------|----------------------|\n| certain<br>201:8       | checked<br>127:24      | closer<br>36:8 152:3 | 151:11,15,17         |\n| certainly<br>41:24     | china<br>18:18,20      | clothes<br>95:25     | 187:10               |\n| 80:17 129:3            | 24:25 25:25 30:3       | 99:20 100:18         | communicated         |\n| 164:25                 | 31:8,20 114:8          | 101:5,6,9 196:17     | 17:3,11,15 151:2     |\n| certificate<br>5:5,6   | chinese<br>47:11       | 196:18,19 198:12     | 164:20               |\n| 166:14 167:16          | 49:24 54:4 84:7        | 198:15,18 199:3      | communicating        |\n| 168:4,19 173:8         | 203:20                 | clothing<br>99:9,18  | 17:6                 |\n| 212:7                  | choice<br>47:10        | 100:24 101:4,11      | communication        |\n| certification<br>10:6  | city<br>31:22 71:13    | 101:13 107:22        | 154:17 196:1         |\n| certified<br>10:4,5,11 | 71:19,20 72:1          | 201:7                | communications       |\n| 212:5                  | 184:25                 | code<br>214:9,12,19  | 16:8                 |\n| certify<br>211:4       | civil<br>5:14 214:19   | 214:20               | communist<br>47:11   |\n| 212:7,20               | 214:20                 | coffee<br>82:6,10,12 | 84:7                 |\n| cetera<br>68:12        | claiborn<br>3:5 8:15   | 82:15,20 106:19      | companies<br>27:5    |\n| challenged<br>170:7    | 8:15                   | 107:12 141:18        | company<br>26:8      |\n| change<br>163:20       | claim<br>77:22         | cohn<br>2:21 8:2     | 45:9 46:7,10         |\n| 188:17,18 199:19       | claimed<br>78:23       | colleague<br>18:1    | 47:12 79:21 86:13    |\n| 199:21 216:4,7,10      | clarified<br>100:17    | 19:10 47:12 71:10    | 86:13 92:17          |\n| 216:13,16,19           | clarify<br>90:3,10     | 210:1                | 101:16 103:13        |\n| changes<br>211:7,10    | 120:4 182:2            | come<br>25:12,15     | 114:4,5,7,19         |\n| changing<br>127:19     | 187:24                 | 27:20 28:4 44:11     | 117:15 118:19,24     |\n| charge<br>80:12        | clarity<br>151:6       | 122:21 129:2         | 119:4,12 124:9       |\n| 101:11,12 102:1,3      | 200:22                 | 148:7 159:9          | 128:14 136:5         |\n| 102:9                  | cleanup<br>174:13      | 161:21 162:6         | 137:7 152:11         |\n| charter<br>166:7       | 205:24                 | 163:11 167:8         | 153:9 155:3,8        |\n| 167:17 168:15,16       | clear<br>53:15,16      | 176:2,3,6,8,9        | 160:17 163:22        |\n| 169:3,18,24            | 62:15 75:7 87:15       | 195:14,16            | 164:2,17 165:1,2     |\n| 171:14 172:22          | 95:11,11 121:22        | comes<br>27:3 180:10 | 169:16,18 181:19     |\n| 173:1,13               | 151:5 161:1            | comfortable<br>11:4  | 195:20               |\n| charters<br>170:20     | 183:25                 | 153:2                | company's<br>166:6   |\n| chat<br>141:8,8,10     | clearly<br>11:1 34:2   | coming<br>87:21      | competency<br>26:10  |\n| 142:19 161:18          | 85:25 97:5 101:16      | 152:19 153:10        | 44:24                |\n| chauffeur<br>34:24     | 186:25 187:1           | 159:16 160:2,6,14    | compiling<br>193:19  |\n| 35:10,19 36:1,23       | client<br>120:2,8,9,11 | 162:11               | complete<br>168:18   |\n| 37:21 206:14,19        | 120:15,20 121:3,7      | comley<br>3:10 8:5   | 172:24 174:24        |\n| 206:23                 | 121:8,15 122:22        | comma<br>88:24       | 175:8                |\n| check<br>3:18 9:6,14   | 122:23 126:1           | committee<br>3:10    | completed<br>214:7   |\n| 10:7,9,9 34:1          | clients<br>119:5,9,18  | 8:5                  | 214:17 215:6         |\n| 52:21,21 53:1,6,17     | 120:18 121:19          | communicate<br>17:1  | completion<br>215:10 |\n| 127:21 131:13,13       |                        | 69:17 70:15,19,21    |                      |\n|                        |                        |                      |                      |\n\n**[complicated - court]**\n\n| complicated<br>17:24 | console<br>129:18     | 31:21,22 33:17,23     | 16:14 19:21 20:3     |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|\n| complies<br>21:1,12  | constraints<br>164:10 | 36:17 39:14 43:1      | 26:1 41:21 53:7,9    |\n| 23:4 28:25 29:4      | consult<br>18:5       | 43:2 48:8,12          | 125:25 140:8         |\n| 32:22 33:2,9 35:3    | 106:16,20,22          | 51:13,15,16,19,20     | 150:5,9,20 151:6     |\n| 35:5 43:15 46:19     | consulted<br>134:25   | 52:24 54:1 60:21      | 151:12,24 152:18     |\n| 46:22,24 55:12,23    | 135:4,5,7             | 62:2 69:16 77:2,3     | 152:23 153:9         |\n| 56:23 57:5,17        | contact<br>79:25      | 77:5,6 79:16,22       | 156:2,19,19          |\n| 58:1 73:12 74:4      | 149:20 154:24         | 84:16 85:1,13,14      | 157:11,14 208:24     |\n| 83:14,20 87:25       | 214:9                 | 90:18,20,24 91:13     | 209:21 212:20        |\n| 88:4,9 167:13        | contained<br>15:7     | 91:16 97:15           | 214:18,21 215:7      |\n| composed<br>121:13   | contains<br>189:16    | 104:19,23 105:21      | counsel's<br>150:10  |\n| computer<br>19:25    | contested<br>37:4     | 106:17 108:21         | 153:17,18 154:3      |\n| 212:14               | 130:19                | 111:2,4,5,7 117:2     | 154:24               |\n| con<br>26:11         | context<br>26:12      | 121:16,18 129:23      | counsels<br>16:5     |\n| concerned<br>21:4    | continue<br>193:1     | 135:25 136:21         | 144:25               |\n| 76:6 158:17          | continued<br>3:1 5:1  | 137:5,11,12,25        | count<br>80:3        |\n| concerns<br>71:22    | contributed<br>122:1  | 139:12 142:8,10       | countless<br>159:14  |\n| 126:25 128:22        | 122:7                 | 142:11,12 145:12      | countries<br>175:23  |\n| 185:9                | controls<br>122:6     | 149:1 155:6,24        | country<br>27:14     |\n| concludes<br>209:7   | conversation          | 157:13 161:15         | 115:23 116:8         |\n| conclusion<br>52:3   | 139:10 162:7,19       | 166:15 175:11         | county<br>211:2      |\n| conditions<br>146:14 | 178:14 191:7          | 185:13 187:17,19      | 212:2                |\n| conduct<br>155:17    | conversations         | 189:1,2,5,6,10,12     | couple<br>10:21 19:3 |\n| conducted<br>14:10   | 16:13 77:22           | 189:18 190:4,5,20     | 73:8 97:13 109:22    |\n| 80:25 128:24         | 149:19 171:22         | 190:25 192:21         | 110:1 135:15         |\n| 155:2                | 178:7                 | 198:7 202:21          | 138:20 149:7         |\n| confess<br>67:7      | convince<br>181:7,7   | 205:7,13 211:9,13     | 208:4                |\n| confirm<br>92:7      | convinced<br>180:1    | 212:16                | course<br>14:21 47:7 |\n| 198:9 203:18         | cooperate<br>78:20    | corrected<br>75:22    | 48:18,20,23 61:18    |\n| 206:23               | coordinate<br>118:12  | 75:23,24 76:4         | 81:24 85:2 121:20    |\n| confusing<br>22:25   | copy<br>210:3,7       | correction<br>29:18   | 126:2 130:5 131:7    |\n| 121:10               | corner<br>57:1        | 46:20 76:6 91:5       | 135:6 137:15         |\n| confusion<br>22:19   | corporate<br>1:16     | 169:17                | 142:18 147:3,3       |\n| 23:8                 | 9:19 15:3 44:21       | corrections<br>214:14 | 154:18 170:23        |\n| connecticut<br>1:2   | corporation<br>4:21   | 214:15 215:3,4        | 174:19 181:13        |\n| 2:23 3:12 7:13       | 23:24 34:1 168:13     | correctly<br>75:1     | court<br>1:1 7:12,19 |\n| connolly<br>170:16   | 168:21 170:15         | 107:21 172:5,16       | 8:18 10:4,11,11      |\n| 170:19 172:2,3,7,9   | corporation's         | 192:19                | 11:22 14:23 48:2     |\n| 172:19               | 168:3                 | costs<br>177:8,16     | 50:11 57:8 85:3      |\n| consecutive<br>24:6  | correct<br>16:1 18:4  | counsel<br>7:21 9:20  | 146:11 194:9         |\n| 25:2                 | 24:19,21 30:11,12     | 10:15 12:20 16:13     |                      |\n|                      |                       |                       |                      |\n\n**[courts - described]**\n\n| courts<br>37:14 38:8  | d                     | debtor<br>1:9 2:4 8:8 | department<br>3:4    |\n|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|\n| cover<br>15:7 73:15   | d<br>2:21 4:1 148:25  | 8:10 40:6 41:24       | 87:9,12 128:1        |\n| 177:15                | dad<br>199:13         | 53:11,23 85:12        | 155:1,9,16,23        |\n| covered<br>37:9       | daily<br>128:16       | 131:4,10,25 132:7     | depo<br>99:4         |\n| covid<br>16:5         | 142:17,19 149:24      | 132:15,19 134:21      | deponent's<br>209:21 |\n| craig<br>193:11,14    | 151:2 179:6,8         | 135:3,10 137:4        | deposed<br>13:22     |\n| create<br>43:19 44:2  | 208:5,8               | 156:19 186:14         | 14:1,5,12 36:8,16    |\n| created<br>43:20      | daniel<br>148:24      | debtor's<br>53:24     | 90:7 92:20 94:6      |\n| 114:13,24 115:8       | date<br>23:17 29:13   | 131:17,17,18          | deposition<br>1:14   |\n| 115:15,16 116:6,8     | 30:24 31:7 33:17      | debtors<br>146:16     | 5:11 7:9,15 11:7     |\n| 117:6 123:9           | 36:8 73:17 104:5      | decide<br>106:22      | 11:21 13:25 14:4     |\n| credentials<br>9:25   | 168:3,9 214:16        | 107:11                | 14:10 15:8,12,20     |\n| 10:8                  | 215:5 216:24          | decided<br>183:1      | 16:10,24 17:2,12     |\n| credit<br>99:21       | dated<br>4:16,24 5:7  | decides<br>183:6      | 17:16,20 18:7,19     |\n| 101:21,25 102:14      | 5:15 73:16 213:1      | decision<br>134:20    | 19:7 20:1,8 21:7     |\n| 102:16,17,22,23       | dates<br>14:2,2 21:5  | 135:1,8,12,14,17      | 28:17 29:17 37:4     |\n| 102:25 129:4          | daughter<br>84:9      | 135:19,21,24          | 37:18 38:6 43:5      |\n| 195:10 196:11         | david<br>2:11 7:24    | 136:3 137:3,5,6,14    | 47:24 48:2,25        |\n| 198:6,20 202:20       | 10:20 65:12 116:2     | 137:17,18,25          | 55:10 65:19 73:17    |\n| 203:7,23 204:11       | 153:15 156:9          | 142:19 143:8          | 76:20 80:25 95:8     |\n| creditor<br>2:11,21   | 157:22 187:23         | 152:8,10 153:19       | 95:15 96:17 109:5    |\n| 7:11 9:20 128:24      | 209:12                | 154:3,22 164:19       | 116:12 125:18        |\n| creditors<br>3:10 8:6 | day<br>49:3,6,7 50:15 | 165:10 179:5,8,20     | 130:15,18 133:17     |\n| 194:25                | 69:22 109:2           | 180:20 181:11,20      | 133:21 134:5         |\n| credits<br>127:2      | 127:19,20 139:25      | 181:21 183:12         | 145:13 156:21        |\n| crystal<br>75:7       | 140:1 145:21          | 184:2 201:1           | 162:13 163:1         |\n| csr<br>1:25 213:4     | 163:7,10 168:15       | decisions<br>142:14   | 166:23 209:15,17     |\n| culture<br>49:23,24   | 173:15 194:22,22      | 142:17 164:2          | 209:20 211:6,8,11    |\n| 49:24                 | 195:15,15 196:5,5     | 178:25                | 212:9,10,12          |\n| current<br>45:1       | 208:15,15 211:14      | declare<br>211:12     | 214:19,22,24         |\n| 125:10 129:3          | 213:1                 | default<br>146:20,25  | 215:8,10             |\n| 148:17 150:5,19       | dc<br>2:13 3:7        | 147:8                 | depositions<br>11:2  |\n| 151:24 153:3          | deal<br>195:21        | defendant<br>58:9     | 14:24                |\n| currently<br>124:14   | 206:11                | definitely<br>59:22   | describe<br>85:15    |\n| 150:2 152:18          | debate<br>125:19      | delaware<br>4:21 5:4  | 92:23 174:15         |\n| 156:4,7 157:2,4       | debit<br>102:24 103:4 | 167:16 168:4,22       | 175:16 179:3         |\n| 190:3                 | 103:7,13 104:6,10     | 171:9                 | described<br>68:22   |\n| cute<br>104:2         | 104:15,22,24          | delay<br>19:12 44:6   | 69:6 70:17 91:22     |\n|                       | 105:1 198:7,23        | delivered<br>210:7    | 117:12 120:14        |\n|                       | 202:12,19 203:7       | dep<br>58:4           | 124:22 186:11        |\n|                       | 203:24 204:11         |                       |                      |\n\n#### **[description - employee]**\n\n| description<br>4:11 | direct<br>21:10 84:4  | discuss<br>126:1      | driver<br>35:10                           |\n|---------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------------------------|\n| 5:2                 | 91:4 158:5            | 140:21 141:2          | drop<br>19:10                             |\n| designed<br>187:5   | directed<br>27:7      | discussion<br>174:21  | due<br>16:5                               |\n| designer<br>118:11  | 192:15,20             | displaying<br>132:4   | dug<br>169:8                              |\n| details<br>36:15    | direction<br>82:2     | disregard<br>125:2    | duly<br>9:1,11,21                         |\n| 64:23 105:12        | 117:17 190:24         | district<br>1:2 7:12  | 168:13,20 212:9                           |\n| 113:15 147:2        | directly<br>99:22     | dive<br>198:8         | duties<br>26:18,23                        |\n| 153:3 181:16        | 100:8,9 101:1         | diversified<br>45:15  | 44:17 45:7 46:4                           |\n| determined          | 103:24 110:10         | 114:11                | 69:6 77:23 169:15                         |\n| 214:18,22 215:7     | 159:4,8,22 177:18     | division<br>1:3 7:13  | duty<br>27:2 149:9                        |\n| develop<br>115:18   | director<br>4:19 28:9 | document<br>20:5,7    | dwell<br>196:23                           |\n| 117:15 174:21       | 32:14 38:18,19,22     | 21:24 28:14 43:16     | dwelling<br>72:9,10                       |\n| device<br>129:18    | 42:23,25 43:24        | 43:18,22 44:2         | e                                         |\n| dharbach<br>2:14    | 45:25 46:13 47:20     | 56:18 61:13 62:24     | e<br>4:1,9 38:14,23                       |\n| dictionary<br>60:9  | 49:5 56:9 97:20       | 63:9 167:1,4          | 39:9 147:15                               |\n| difference<br>101:8 | 98:3 110:19 123:7     | 169:8,12,14 170:2     | 148:25 212:18                             |\n| 176:17              | 134:19 142:6          | 171:8 172:21          |                                           |\n| different<br>116:11 | 175:13 181:19         | documentation         | 214:9,12 215:1                            |\n| 120:14 127:15       | directors<br>34:16    | 170:21                | 216:3,3,3                                 |\n| 136:18,20 166:2     | 37:10 148:18          | documented            | earlier<br>47:1 53:11                     |\n| 175:23              | 168:20                | 187:21,25 188:1,8     | 77:22 87:14 99:9<br>118:5 158:22          |\n| difficult<br>195:2  | disagree<br>129:8     | 189:4,12 190:17       |                                           |\n| dip<br>37:5,11 42:3 | 156:22 158:7          | documents<br>15:16    | 176:15 182:9                              |\n| 42:13 66:12 94:21   | 183:5,9 184:4         | 15:18 166:16          | 188:4 193:15                              |\n| 125:15 130:20       | 193:1                 | 169:11 170:7          | 195:9 207:12<br>208:16                    |\n| 131:22,23 132:1,4   | disagreed<br>137:13   | 184:15 185:12,14      | ease<br>39:16                             |\n| 132:9,11,23 134:7   | 179:15 180:19         | 186:11 190:3,7        | east<br>7:3 184:20                        |\n| 134:8,21 135:2,9    | 183:1,11              | 207:13                | 190:3                                     |\n| 136:18,23 137:4     | disagreement          | doing<br>11:21 45:10  | eastern<br>14:19,19                       |\n| 137:18 138:3,19     | 179:19 181:22         | 45:11 80:22 93:5      | efficient<br>87:15                        |\n| 139:2,5,14 140:12   | 182:3                 | 115:21 117:17         | eight<br>83:19,22                         |\n| 140:21 142:21,23    | disagreements         | 128:1 141:6           | 84:2                                      |\n| 144:5,11,18 145:9   | 179:23 181:3          | 160:19                |                                           |\n| 145:17,21 146:8     | disappeared<br>48:11  | dollars<br>179:1,9,12 | eighteenth<br>72:20                       |\n| 146:21,25 147:2,8   | disclose<br>124:24,24 | 179:20,21 180:21      | either<br>16:13 38:7<br>48:10 59:22 63:19 |\n| 147:19 158:18       | 150:10                | 183:13 184:3          |                                           |\n| 159:2,6,14,16       | disclosing<br>16:12   | drafted<br>58:18      | elected<br>168:20                         |\n| 160:25 162:11,13    | 42:11                 | 63:25 68:8            | employed<br>36:1                          |\n| 162:23 163:11,15    | disclosure<br>130:15  | drill<br>171:5        | employee<br>35:14,20                      |\n| 176:17 177:3        | 130:23                | drive<br>194:8        | 78:15,16,18 79:4                          |\n| 180:7               |                       |                       | 81:9,15 84:13                             |\n|                     |                       |                       | 85:19,23,24 86:4,6                        |\n\n#### **[employee - family]**\n\n| 123:7 151:12,17      | estate<br>47:15 51:9  | 44:10 46:18,21        | extend<br>37:13 38:8  |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 153:3 154:13         | 51:17 114:10          | 47:6 55:9,10,19       | extended<br>176:10    |\n| 155:7 156:10         | 115:20 117:22,24      | 56:2,4,9,13 57:1      | extra<br>185:8        |\n| employees<br>34:21   | 117:25 118:9,11       | 62:5,16,23 64:9       | eye<br>2:12           |\n| 37:10 48:10 78:15    | 181:4 182:6           | 67:5,19,21 73:11      | f                     |\n| 151:13 156:6,12      | 183:15,19 184:5       | 83:13,15 87:16,23     | f<br>116:22 147:15    |\n| 157:1,2 158:3        | et<br>68:12           | 87:24 88:1,2 91:4     | facilitate<br>118:12  |\n| 192:20 206:15        | events<br>146:19,24   | 91:5,6 166:20,23      | fact<br>50:22 80:16   |\n| 208:12               | 147:7                 | 167:9,12 171:17       | 80:20 89:4 123:2      |\n| employer<br>153:5,17 | everybody<br>19:11    | 172:8 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familiar<br>144:5,11  |\n| 40:16 50:2 55:16     | 102:5,6 105:10        | expedition<br>37:13   | 146:19 186:20         |\n| 62:25 63:25 79:19    | 106:19 108:11         | expenses<br>100:11    | families<br>86:25     |\n| 86:4 98:10 144:4     | 143:6 179:5           | 192:15 193:20,23      | family<br>24:24 29:11 |\n| 144:19 201:20        | 183:10,23 184:2,2     | 194:3                 | 29:23 30:6,9,10,13    |\n| 203:4,7,14,15        | 184:7 198:14,16       | expensive<br>108:6,9  | 30:17,19 31:2,15      |\n| 205:14,17            | 200:7 201:18          | 194:14                | 31:18,20 48:9         |\n| ensure<br>98:24      | 203:22                | experience<br>45:1    | 52:1,17,23 54:22      |\n| ensured<br>98:6      | examples<br>182:3,5   | 161:24                | 58:12,17 68:2,7       |\n| ensuring<br>98:4     | 182:10,16 205:4       | explain<br>20:4 41:21 | 81:11 84:8 85:6,6     |\n| enterprise<br>118:15 | exceeds<br>20:11      | 64:5 75:3 151:8       | 85:7,11,25 86:5,6    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      | 33:8 35:2 43:5        |                       | 164:16,17,23          |\n|                      |                       |                       |                       |\n\n#### **[family - fourteen]**\n\n| 176:10,10 181:16      | figure<br>26:9 111:10 | finishing<br>173:25   | follow<br>32:4 102:15 |\n|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 182:17 183:20         | 128:11 135:14         | fire<br>171:4         | 168:23 197:12,18      |\n| 184:24 205:8,9,12     | 143:3,11,21 144:3     | firm<br>7:17,19 15:14 | followed<br>164:15    |\n| famous<br>208:1       | 187:16                | 15:25 17:21,22        | following<br>109:2    |\n| far<br>37:6,10 95:14  | figuring<br>102:13    | 18:6 60:25 124:8      | follows<br>9:2,12,22  |\n| 98:19 124:3           | 195:2                 | 193:5                 | 58:11 214:8           |\n| 158:16 160:4          | file<br>20:19 168:18  | firm's<br>17:23,25    | food<br>95:25 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 | 62:13 66:3,7,12,14  | 71:12 72:1,8      |\n| 108:13,23 140:13      | 183:4 201:25         | 66:21 75:17 84:3    | 73:22 74:21,24    |\n| friend<br>80:6        | generally<br>15:12   | 87:13 90:10 91:4    | 77:18,21,25 78:12 |\n| front<br>67:20        | gentleman<br>35:11   | 96:6 97:9 99:7,7    | 78:19 79:7,15,18  |\n| fulfill<br>70:16      | getting<br>107:25    | 112:12 125:2,4,18   | 80:5,11,12,13,18  |\n| full<br>23:24 174:24  | 128:10 204:24        | 125:24 126:3,23     | 80:22 81:3,6      |\n| 175:8                 | give<br>26:3 44:5    | 129:2 132:17        | 86:22 90:4,9,18   |\n| fully<br>129:7 130:21 | 71:17 82:1 96:2      | 135:13 136:6        | 91:16,17,18,24    |\n| fund<br>2:12 5:10     | 96:24 104:4          | 146:17 150:7,13     | 92:9,16 93:6 95:4 |\n| 9:21 99:4,8           | 105:10 153:3,8,8,8   | 158:5,20,24         | 95:24 97:2,20     |\n| 114:15,15 115:7       | 163:17 166:18        | 161:13 163:11,15    | 98:3,23 99:11     |\n| 143:6 159:2,6,16      | 182:21 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                                                        |\n| 82:19,23 83:7                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               | 204:15                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       |\n| 84:15 85:1,13,19                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            | honest<br>50:8,12,17                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         |\n| 85:23 86:8 87:19                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            | 61:22 132:10           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                       |\n| 104:21 105:5,15                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 27:10,15,16 30:5                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             |\n| 105:24 106:6,15                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 31:23 32:1,3,4                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |\n| 106:23,24 107:8                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 44:15,18 45:7,17                                        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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |\n| 111:13 115:3,6                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              | hope<br>55:14 146:1                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          |\n| 118:6 119:10,20                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | hopefully<br>44:7                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |\n| 119:22 121:3,23                                                                  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                  | hopelessly<br>165:19                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         |\n| 136:18 139:13,18                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            | hopes<br>118:25                                                                                                                                                      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                                                                                              | house<br>3:11 72:12                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          |\n|                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 72:14 201:21                                                                             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                                                                                                                                                                          | hr<br>87:9,11 155:1,9                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        |\n|                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 155:16,23    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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       |\n|                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 153:22 166:20<br>77:1,4 81:4,9,15<br>169:11,12 188:12<br>192:15 195:3,8<br>43:18<br>37:24<br>38:24 92:24 94:1<br>90:23<br>191:20<br>36:22<br>212:11<br>125:13<br>150:12<br>107:8 194:7<br>154:9<br>152:8,14<br>153:19 154:4,6,9<br>86:8,11,17<br>140:14,21 149:21<br>87:8,12 91:17<br>151:7,14 172:19<br>151:25 169:2,23<br>176:23 177:6,16<br>177:19 178:8,15<br>152:25<br>178:17 186:1<br>187:7,10 189:1,16<br>170:6<br>189:20 191:6,9,16<br>192:13 193:20<br>15:1<br>195:11 196:2<br>114:18 115:5<br>199:19 200:4,24<br>201:1,6,24 204:20 |\n\n#### **[huh - investment]**\n\n| huh<br>54:2 101:2                         | 118:9,10 151:12       | instruction<br>45:8   | interpreter<br>3:17   |\n|-------------------------------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 137:19 155:16                             | 153:5 157:5,6         | 58:21 68:10,24        | 3:18 8:24 9:4,6,9     |\n| hull<br>1:25 7:19                         | 170:14 179:6          | 69:10 89:14,22        | 9:14 10:2,4,5,7,9     |\n| 212:5 213:4                               | income<br>118:17,18   | 91:18 94:9 96:2,9     | 10:10,11 11:8         |\n| humble<br>48:14                           | 118:20 119:2          | 96:16,19,24 98:16     | 31:12 40:20,21        |\n| 49:24 50:7,21                             | 123:14,18,21          | 98:18 106:2 108:2     | 52:5,21,22 53:1,4     |\n| hundred<br>4:17                           | 124:9                 | 125:2 130:24          | 53:6,14,17 54:7,10    |\n| 105:22 120:17                             | incorporation<br>5:5  | 133:6                 | 54:11,25 55:6         |\n| hundreds<br>82:15                         | 168:4,9               | integrity<br>127:1    | 59:18 81:1 131:12     |\n| hurt<br>129:19                            | indicated<br>188:4    | 128:22                | 131:13,14,15,16       |\n| 174:23                                    | indicates<br>57:21    | intend<br>15:6        | 133:11 143:13,18      |\n| hurted<br>175:7                           | individually<br>121:7 | intended<br>146:1     | 143:22,23 144:8       |\n| husband<br>201:25                         | inference<br>94:14    | intending<br>158:23   | 144:12,13 146:5       |\n| i                                         | influence<br>13:13    | interact<br>80:5      | 147:1,9,24,25         |\n|                                           | inform<br>23:18       | interacted<br>74:23   | 153:22 154:5          |\n| identification<br>19:8                    | information<br>16:20  | 79:6,14,19 80:10      | 200:18 201:3,4,14     |\n| 28:18 43:6 55:11                          | 36:19 51:4 60:1       | interacting<br>80:17  | interpreters<br>8:19  |\n| 128:10 166:24                             | 61:23 62:4,10         | 80:21                 | interprets<br>40:20   |\n| 209:18                                    | 64:2 130:8 156:8      | interaction<br>80:3   | 52:20 59:18           |\n| identifying<br>156:13                     | 156:14                | interest<br>146:11    | 131:12                |\n| identity<br>127:5                         | informed<br>87:11     | 186:22,24 187:3,7     | interrupt<br>30:15    |\n| 128:9 150:10                              | informs<br>26:10      | 187:11,13 189:16      | 75:19 150:12          |\n| 153:18 154:2                              | inhouse<br>16:13      | interested<br>47:18   | interrupting<br>76:18 |\n| ii<br>2:11                                | 155:25                | 128:10 145:6,8        | interview<br>152:12   |\n| immediate<br>85:6                         | inoperative<br>166:7  | 212:22                | 152:15 154:6,15       |\n| immediately                               | 168:16 169:4,17       | interesting<br>151:4  | 154:15                |\n| 152:18,25 186:10                          | 169:19,25 171:14      | interests<br>51:25    | interviews<br>118:10  |\n| impair<br>13:14                           | 172:23 173:2,13       | 52:16 54:21 58:8      | invade<br>146:1       |\n| important<br>11:21<br>impression<br>75:12 | input<br>180:8        | 58:16 68:2,6,20       | invest<br>120:25      |\n| inauthentic<br>170:8                      | inquire<br>116:7      | 87:19 88:18 90:16     | 175:25                |\n| include<br>24:4 85:18                     | insisting<br>76:11    | 91:3,14 95:7          | invested<br>176:5     |\n| 89:15 111:3,6                             | instruct<br>20:11     | interfere<br>13:15    | investing<br>118:2    |\n| 125:3 157:8,12                            | 26:15 37:2,14         | internal<br>102:11    | investment<br>114:11  |\n| 164:5                                     | 38:3 42:9 66:5,6      | interpret<br>8:24 9:1 | 115:20 117:20,25      |\n| included<br>119:19                        | 66:14 67:15           | 9:9,11 183:22         | 118:23 123:16,22      |\n|                                           | 116:14 126:23         | 201:15                | 123:23 124:6          |\n| 214:14 215:3<br>includes<br>119:10        | instructed<br>6:1     | interpreted<br>9:2,12 | 174:15,24 175:3,9     |\n| including<br>48:9                         | 95:24 141:21          | 143:22 144:12         | 175:22 176:3          |\n| 84:8,12 89:14                             | instructing<br>42:16  | 147:9,25 154:5        | 179:24 181:3,4,21     |\n| 91:20 92:18,19,21                         | 67:9 129:9            | 188:6 201:3           | 183:15,19             |\n|                                           |                       |                       |                       |\n| 95:25 99:4 115:19                         |                       |                       |                       |\n\n### **[investments - kong]**\n\n| investments            | 154:14 174:19         | know<br>12:12 14:22 | 154:8,12,14         |\n|------------------------|-----------------------|---------------------|---------------------|\n| 118:25                 | 196:12 214:5          | 21:13,16 22:25      | 155:11 159:9,15     |\n| invests<br>118:24      | 216:2                 | 28:1 31:6 32:21     | 160:13 161:1,2      |\n| invoice<br>148:7,15    | johnston<br>3:17 8:23 | 33:3 38:11,15,16    | 162:19 163:1,4,15   |\n| 148:16                 | 10:6 11:15 12:15      | 39:11 41:23 48:24   | 163:16,23 165:4     |\n| involved<br>99:12      | 52:11 54:3 55:5       | 49:14 50:3 54:10    | 170:12,18,18,21     |\n| 124:20 133:2,5,10      | 59:15 98:11 131:8     | 55:1 56:18 59:9     | 170:23 172:20,25    |\n| 134:20,24 135:15       | 133:12 143:17         | 59:10,12,13,17      | 173:4,10,10,12,14   |\n| 135:16 143:24          | 144:10 147:5          | 60:7,9,10,19 61:4   | 175:12 180:15       |\n| 144:14 152:7,24        | 153:25 200:23         | 61:7,21 63:7,14,20  | 185:18 187:15       |\n| 164:7 179:20           | jonathan<br>3:10 8:4  | 64:6 70:2 73:21     | 191:3 192:9 193:5   |\n| 180:20 183:12          | judge<br>127:13       | 74:11,22 75:9       | 193:11,12 194:6     |\n| 191:4,20 192:4,12      | 158:8                 | 76:13 77:19,25      | 194:22,23 195:9     |\n| 196:4                  | judgment<br>23:19     | 78:4,11,14,16,17    | 197:5,15,17         |\n| involves<br>197:3      | 127:11,12,14          | 78:18 80:13 82:14   | 198:21 199:3,22     |\n| involving<br>13:24     | jumping<br>154:13     | 84:20 86:19 95:10   | 199:24 200:1        |\n| 178:25 179:9           | justice<br>3:4        | 100:10,12,23        | 201:10 203:6        |\n| 184:3                  | k                     | 102:1,20 103:12     | 204:1,14,23,25      |\n| issue<br>41:20 127:10  | k<br>38:14,14 39:13   | 103:22 105:3        | 205:2,7,8 207:6,7   |\n| 127:12,13,14           | 39:13,14,14           | 107:9 108:15,15     | 208:23              |\n| 132:20 142:22          | 148:25                | 108:17,18,24,25     | knowledge<br>46:15  |\n| 149:8,11 153:12        | kaplan<br>3:10 8:4,4  | 109:1 110:6,9,19    | 46:17 47:14,15,22   |\n| 156:10 164:21          | 19:18                 | 110:22 111:11,13    | 49:8,10,13,20,25    |\n| 183:12                 | kaulet<br>2:9         | 111:14 112:6,23     | 50:19,23 51:10,18   |\n| issues<br>124:20       | keep<br>57:13 130:9   | 113:3,25 114:6      | 60:2 62:9 64:3      |\n| 128:25 157:20          | 132:17 151:20         | 115:11,13 116:25    | 104:21 105:2        |\n| item<br>108:7          | kenneth<br>2:5 8:7    | 117:1,5,9 120:7     | 121:25 122:4,5,11   |\n| j                      | kern<br>211:2 212:2   | 122:15 124:3,3,8    | 133:18,24 143:25    |\n| jail<br>84:6,11 86:2,3 | kidnap<br>47:11       | 125:17 128:15,19    | 150:1 160:22        |\n| jalbert<br>193:11,14   | kidnapped<br>48:11    | 130:7 131:23        | 172:18 188:21       |\n| jam<br>1:8 7:14        | 84:11 86:2            | 132:1,9,11 133:3,9  | 206:24 207:4,10     |\n| jeff<br>7:17 112:7     | kids<br>121:20        | 133:11,15 134:1,1   | known<br>175:18     |\n| jeffrey<br>3:16        | kind<br>49:9 73:23    | 134:14 135:5,6      | knows<br>53:10,12   |\n| jerking<br>57:13       | 96:5 122:23 138:8     | 136:12 141:16,17    | 136:6 173:24        |\n| jerry<br>170:17,18,24  | 146:15 151:15         | 141:24 142:1        | kong<br>18:16,18,20 |\n| 171:18 172:9,9         | 163:22 195:21         | 143:2,10,20         | 18:21,25 21:5       |\n| jkaplan<br>3:13        | 203:11 206:17         | 144:15 145:18       | 22:6,8 23:11,12,20  |\n| job<br>34:15 65:21     | kinds<br>141:18       | 146:10,13,24        | 23:22 24:3,7,8,12   |\n| 66:1 93:5 149:9        | knew<br>53:11 75:11   | 147:7,12,14,17,21   | 24:13,21,23 25:1,3  |\n| 149:17 151:11,13       | 136:5                 | 150:19,21 151:20    | 25:3,3,6,7,16,19    |\n| 151:21 154:12,13       |                       | 152:17 153:1,2,14   | 27:10,15,16 30:5    |\n|                        |                       |                     |                     |\n\n### **[kong - line]**\n\n| 31:23 32:1,3,4       | 189:20 191:6,9,16    | lawyer<br>126:17       | likes<br>197:6          |  |  |\n|----------------------|----------------------|------------------------|-------------------------|--|--|\n| 44:15,18 45:7,17     | 191:21 192:4         | 132:5 150:18           | limit<br>138:4,8        |  |  |\n| 45:22                | 193:20 194:1         | 172:1                  | limited<br>2:22 4:21    |  |  |\n| korean<br>35:10      | 195:1,11 196:2       | lawyers<br>17:20,20    | 5:12 17:4 18:9,11       |  |  |\n| kwok<br>1:8 2:5 7:11 | 197:20 198:20        | 18:6 62:24 155:25      | 18:17 43:25 46:1        |  |  |\n| 8:8 37:25 38:11      | 199:19 200:4,24      | 208:2                  | 47:21 51:24 52:14       |  |  |\n| 38:14 39:6 40:6      | 201:1,24 204:21      | learn<br>48:17 142:24  | 54:20 58:7 59:21        |  |  |\n| 41:16,24 42:4        | 205:11 206:1,14      | 191:1                  | 90:18 91:16,24          |  |  |\n| 45:18,22 52:1,16     | 206:19 214:4         | learned<br>114:2,14    | 92:9 93:6 95:4          |  |  |\n| 52:16,22,22 53:5,7   | 216:1                | 114:25 134:4           | 98:3,23 99:12           |  |  |\n| 53:9,13,21 54:22     | kwok's<br>39:18 42:1 | 140:12 146:15          | 103:10 104:13           |  |  |\n| 58:9,16 66:7 68:2    | 74:15 76:22 87:19    | 162:10,23 163:7        | 110:18,20 111:12        |  |  |\n| 68:6,11,19 70:16     | 88:17 90:16 91:2     | 163:10 171:13          | 113:21 114:23           |  |  |\n| 72:3,9,17 74:11      | 97:3,22,22 98:4      | 176:9,12               | 115:8,12 117:6,10       |  |  |\n| 75:11,13,25 76:25    | 100:12,24 103:13     | lease<br>208:11,19     | 118:8,14 119:5          |  |  |\n| 77:1,4 81:4,9,15     | 104:5,9,14 110:25    | leased<br>111:6,12     | 120:12 121:4,16         |  |  |\n| 81:16,21 82:1,10     | 177:16 192:8,13      | leaving<br>25:2 127:5  | 122:2,8,14 124:11       |  |  |\n| 82:19,23 83:7        | 201:6 204:20         | 175:2 193:17           | 127:7,18 128:12         |  |  |\n| 84:15 85:1,10,10     | 206:9                | left<br>30:3 31:8 67:8 | 131:10 133:16           |  |  |\n| 85:13,19,23 86:8     | kwong<br>75:9        | legal<br>7:18,20 52:2  | 134:20 137:11           |  |  |\n| 88:18 89:5,5,13      | l                    | 59:22,25 60:12,14      | 148:18 156:7            |  |  |\n| 91:14 92:10 93:14    | l<br>3:5,6 38:14,23  | 61:13,21 107:2,5       | 157:3 158:18            |  |  |\n| 94:16 95:7,12        | 170:17 171:25        | 182:18 209:11          | 160:22 163:22           |  |  |\n| 98:24 99:13 100:8    | l.p.<br>2:12 9:21    | 214:7                  | 165:22 166:15           |  |  |\n| 101:4,12 102:17      | l.p.'s<br>5:10       | lender<br>42:3 131:25  | 168:10 169:25           |  |  |\n| 103:3 104:21         | laid<br>164:15       | 132:6 146:16           | 172:10 175:14           |  |  |\n| 105:5,15,24 106:6    | language<br>30:1     | lenders<br>139:1       | 177:15 180:6            |  |  |\n| 106:15,23,24         | 39:23 50:2 62:25     | letter<br>153:9,13     | 186:10 192:3            |  |  |\n| 107:8,25 108:12      | 63:25 64:1 68:4,8    | license<br>51:21       | 193:19 195:5,7          |  |  |\n| 108:22 109:7         | 79:19 85:2,4         | licensed<br>51:14      | 206:14                  |  |  |\n| 111:13 115:3,6       | 89:21 93:16,17       | life<br>61:5,8 195:25  | limited's<br>119:18     |  |  |\n| 118:6 119:10,20      | 148:2                | 197:3                  | 123:14 126:22           |  |  |\n| 119:22 121:3,23      | late<br>28:11        | lifestyle<br>68:12     | 130:12                  |  |  |\n| 121:25 122:6,21      | launched<br>175:18   | 96:1 97:3,22 98:5      | limo<br>108:17          |  |  |\n| 136:18 139:13,18     | law<br>2:6,12,16,22  | 98:24 99:9 100:12      | limousine<br>108:13     |  |  |\n| 140:14,21,23         | 3:5,11 15:14,24      | 107:13 192:14          | 108:15                  |  |  |\n| 149:21 151:7,14      | 17:23,25 60:25       | 193:20,23 194:3        | line<br>6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9 |  |  |\n| 172:19 176:23        | 84:10 114:3 124:8    | 194:15 196:6           | 6:10,11 22:4 23:9       |  |  |\n| 177:6,19 178:8,15    | laws<br>168:21       | lifetime<br>59:1       | 29:7 33:8 35:8          |  |  |\n| 178:17 186:1         | lawsuit<br>174:22    | light<br>127:2 128:23  | 74:10 84:2,2 85:9       |  |  |\n| 187:7,10 189:1,16    |                      | 130:16 185:9           | 88:13 214:15            |  |  |\n|                      |                      |                        |                         |  |  |\n\n132:4,6,13,13\n\n**[line - marked]**\n\n| 215:4 216:4,7,10      | 132:4,6,13,13              | locked<br>214:12                | m                   |  |\n|-----------------------|----------------------------|---------------------------------|---------------------|--|\n| 216:13,16,19          | 133:1,2,4,6,16,19<br>215:1 |                                 | m<br>2:15 38:14,23  |  |\n| lines<br>37:3         | 133:20 134:5,7,8           | long<br>80:24 81:8,14<br>171:25 |                     |  |\n| liquid<br>127:6,17    | 136:18,23 137:4            | 84:1,13 85:19,22                | ma'am<br>20:24      |  |\n| 128:6                 | 137:18 138:3,19            | 85:24 86:4,6 87:3               | 21:15 54:4 56:5     |  |\n| list<br>37:6          | 139:2,5,14 140:13          | 96:3,11,12 97:2,4               | 57:16 71:5 83:23    |  |\n| listen<br>65:14       | 140:21 142:21,23           | 97:6 98:18 103:18               | 88:3 91:8 98:1,9    |  |\n| 160:20                | 144:6,11,15,18             | 115:25 116:7,17                 | 145:5 146:22        |  |\n| litigation<br>13:23   | 145:9,17,22 146:8          | 117:5,5 145:1,3                 | 169:7 190:15        |  |\n| 14:6 37:13 38:8       | 146:10,14,21,25            | 164:11 165:3                    | maintained          |  |\n| 130:16 136:1,16       | 147:2,8,19 158:19          | 207:2                           | 170:25              |  |\n| 136:23 170:7          | 158:20 159:2,6,14          | longer<br>96:15                 | maintaining         |  |\n| 176:19,24 177:8       | 159:16 160:25              | look<br>23:9 33:7               | 126:25              |  |\n| 177:16 178:16         | 162:11,13,24               | 35:2,8 46:25 55:9               | major<br>79:17      |  |\n| 180:10 182:20         | 163:11,15 176:17           | 88:13 122:22                    | 123:20              |  |\n| 184:9 186:13,21       | 177:3 180:7                | 168:11                          | majority<br>78:19   |  |\n| 187:17 188:25         | 185:12,14 186:4            | looking<br>29:7 49:10           | majorly<br>78:19    |  |\n| 191:17 206:2          | 186:12 188:5,9             | 50:4,5 51:5 60:7,8              | makenzie<br>3:19    |  |\n| 207:18                | 189:4,8,10,12,15           | 60:9 62:6 74:5                  | 8:11                |  |\n| little<br>19:13 22:13 | 189:22,23 190:17           | 89:18 136:11                    | making<br>97:21     |  |\n| 23:2,6 30:25          | 191:10 206:6               | 165:8 205:1                     | 135:11 165:10       |  |\n| 32:25 37:8 44:7       | 207:13                     | looks<br>19:19 31:13            | man's<br>101:5      |  |\n| 44:11 66:17 74:5      | loaned<br>177:7            | 85:4 149:2 197:25               | manage<br>155:7     |  |\n| 112:21 149:3          | loans<br>176:18,22         | loose<br>112:21                 | 165:22              |  |\n| 152:6 162:14          | 177:11,12,15,22            | loss<br>130:2,3,12              | mandarin<br>3:17,18 |  |\n| 195:4 205:23          | 177:25 178:4,8,16          | lot<br>84:7 92:21               | 8:25,25 9:10,10     |  |\n| live<br>40:17 72:16   | 184:10,13,16               | 116:13 117:14                   | 10:4,10 11:13,14    |  |\n| 115:22 202:1          | 186:13,21,21,22            | lots<br>48:17                   | 53:4,5 54:13        |  |\n| 204:15 206:25         | 187:4,8,11,14,17           | loud<br>174:10                  | manhattan<br>194:8  |  |\n| lived<br>42:4 72:4,20 | 187:21,25 188:5,8          | loudspeakers                    | 195:12 196:3        |  |\n| 115:25 116:18         | 188:9,25 189:3,9           | 174:10                          | 199:4,5             |  |\n| lives<br>115:24       | 189:19 190:12,17           | love<br>65:15 94:23             | manning's<br>127:13 |  |\n| 199:18 201:20         | 191:2,5,17 206:2,4         | lowey<br>193:5,7                | march<br>5:7,15     |  |\n| living<br>37:25 40:8  | 207:17                     | loyalty<br>154:11               | 18:13,14 134:15     |  |\n| 40:11,14,24 41:16     | located<br>27:9,11,18      | luck<br>114:20,24               | 166:7 168:8,15      |  |\n| 113:4 202:1           | 185:12                     | 115:4,11                        | mark<br>19:6        |  |\n| loan<br>37:11 42:3,13 | location<br>26:22          | lump<br>208:15                  | marked<br>19:8,15   |  |\n| 66:13 94:21           | 42:12 72:2 124:24          | lunch<br>112:3,22               | 20:16 28:18 43:6    |  |\n| 125:15 129:1          | 158:4                      | luncheon<br>112:15              | 55:11 166:24        |  |\n| 130:20 131:17,18      | locations<br>116:11        |                                 | 209:18              |  |\n| 131:22,23,25          |                            |                                 |                     |  |\n|                       |                            |                                 |                     |  |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 260\n\n#### **[mary - mix]**\n\n| mary<br>171:25       | 120:21,22,24         | 93:13 94:3 95:9<br>75:25 76:25        |                      |  |  |\n|----------------------|----------------------|---------------------------------------|----------------------|--|--|\n| matter<br>37:4 72:15 | 121:20 123:10,17     | 128:7,8 188:19<br>108:24 110:9        |                      |  |  |\n| 108:6 130:19         | 123:21 124:5,7       | 201:14<br>million<br>142:23           |                      |  |  |\n| 144:14 154:8,10      | 125:12 127:8,9       | media<br>7:8 209:10<br>143:2,11,21,24 |                      |  |  |\n| 154:20               | 129:16,21 132:5      | medication<br>12:19<br>144:3 146:10   |                      |  |  |\n| matters<br>10:21     | 135:4,11 136:2       | 13:13                                 | 177:8 179:9,12,20    |  |  |\n| 150:8 154:19         | 137:18 138:17        | meet<br>15:19,21,22<br>179:21 180:21  |                      |  |  |\n| 178:25               | 139:24 141:25        | 15:23 16:2,5,21<br>181:8 182:11,13    |                      |  |  |\n| maybach<br>108:13    | 142:5 144:21         | 18:5 80:8 139:19                      | 183:12 184:3,9       |  |  |\n| 108:18,23 109:7      | 146:21 148:11        | 142:18                                | 186:4,13 187:17      |  |  |\n| 109:10,19,21         | 149:24 151:14,17     | meeting<br>141:15                     | 187:21 188:24        |  |  |\n| 110:7,21 111:12      | 152:14 155:7,8       | member<br>84:8                        | 206:1 208:19         |  |  |\n| 111:18               | 158:1 161:25         | 119:22 120:17                         | millions<br>178:25   |  |  |\n| mean<br>14:7 15:22   | 164:12,16,16,20      | 121:17,23,24                          | miltenberger<br>18:2 |  |  |\n| 15:22,23 17:24       | 164:22 174:23        | 122:22 205:11                         | mind<br>52:9 80:4    |  |  |\n| 21:21 23:21 25:11    | 177:12,13,19         | members<br>120:22                     | 91:1 107:24          |  |  |\n| 27:11,12,12,17,18    | 179:13,23 180:15     | memory<br>13:14                       | 194:23               |  |  |\n| 27:23 28:1 30:1      | 180:24 182:12,18     | 36:20,22                              | mine<br>93:3         |  |  |\n| 30:19 31:25 33:21    | 183:17 184:21        | men's<br>101:8,11                     | miniature<br>21:17   |  |  |\n| 34:6 36:4,7,10,14    | 188:1,3,9 189:4      | mention<br>198:11                     | 21:18,21             |  |  |\n| 39:6 40:11,12,14     | 190:13 191:12        | mentioned<br>34:8                     | minimal<br>208:20    |  |  |\n| 43:20 46:8,9,16      | 195:14,17,20         | 38:17 99:8 110:1                      | minor<br>121:20      |  |  |\n| 48:8,16,21 50:3,10   | 196:10,12,14         | 117:21 118:5                          | minute<br>168:2      |  |  |\n| 50:21 53:6 56:4,9    | 199:3,5,21,21,24     | 134:9 162:16                          | minutes<br>17:9,9    |  |  |\n| 58:24 59:10 60:8     | 200:20 201:20,25     | 171:16 182:6,8                        | 62:22 66:20 79:24    |  |  |\n| 60:23 62:18,19       | 202:24 203:2,6,15    | 184:5 190:16                          | 80:8 85:21 97:13     |  |  |\n| 70:6 71:14 72:10     | 204:15 206:3,5,11    | 208:4                                 | 135:16 172:15        |  |  |\n| 72:11 73:1 80:6,8    | 206:21 208:11,11     | mentioning<br>185:6                   | mischaracterize      |  |  |\n| 81:23 82:8,11        | meaning<br>70:9 77:9 | mentions<br>66:6                      | 161:7                |  |  |\n| 85:25 86:18 88:22    | 82:23 85:18 86:5     | merge<br>27:21                        | mischaracterizes     |  |  |\n| 89:12,17,23 92:1     | 86:20 89:20 93:25    | message<br>195:17                     | 159:19 161:5         |  |  |\n| 92:22 93:16,16       | 104:9 105:4          | met<br>17:19 35:10                    | missing<br>164:21    |  |  |\n| 96:1,4,5 97:5 98:6   | 121:10 125:1         | 35:19 40:13 74:17                     | mistaken<br>128:8    |  |  |\n| 98:16 100:4,15,17    | 186:21               | 77:8,13 113:2,5,17                    | misunderstanding     |  |  |\n| 101:14 102:4,11      | means<br>58:17,20    | 140:15 145:8                          | 200:16               |  |  |\n| 102:16 103:20,22     | 59:13 78:15 88:13    | 146:4                                 | misunderstood        |  |  |\n| 105:12 108:9,14      | 89:25 91:3,21        | methods<br>203:11<br>30:16 39:24      |                      |  |  |\n| 109:21 111:25        | 93:9,18 120:9        | miles<br>85:10<br>143:14 200:12       |                      |  |  |\n| 114:16 116:13,19     | 134:2 135:5 142:3    | mileson<br>37:25                      | mix<br>24:22 70:11   |  |  |\n| 118:18 119:7         | meant<br>49:14 55:1  | 38:11,23 39:6,8,18                    | 80:2                 |  |  |\n| 120:7,13,14,15,16    | 68:5 71:10 87:19     | 74:11 75:9,11,13                      |                      |  |  |\n|                      |                      |                                       |                      |  |  |\n\n**[mixed - new]**\n\n| mixed<br>99:25       | moved<br>22:6 23:11   | 151:17 163:1          | 30:4,4,11,18 31:2  |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|--------------------|\n| 100:22               | 23:22 27:21 28:4      | 173:18 185:6          | 31:14,22,23 32:1,2 |\n| mom<br>100:22        | 29:22                 | 194:7,8,9 195:17      | 32:3,11,13,15      |\n| moment<br>12:10      | multiple<br>20:9      | 196:4,12 197:11       | 33:13,19 34:1,4,7  |\n| 15:24 17:19 19:9     | murray<br>2:15        | 199:7 203:6           | 34:13,17,25 35:21  |\n| 37:17 44:5 60:17     | muted<br>167:10       | 204:18 206:3          | 36:2,24 37:21      |\n| 69:1,3 87:14 99:8    | 174:11                | needed<br>69:21 70:2  | 38:1,2 40:9,10,11  |\n| 104:20 117:18        | myers<br>2:11 7:24    | 78:21 79:21 80:9      | 40:14,17,18,23,24  |\n| 119:17 120:11        | 8:12 209:13           | 89:21,25 139:19       | 41:2,4,7,16,18     |\n| 121:12 140:12        | mystery<br>194:24     | 139:21,23,24          | 42:2,6,21 43:25    |\n| 151:22 156:25        | n                     | 140:7 196:7           | 44:21,25 46:1,6,14 |\n| 171:3,12 179:14      | n<br>4:1 17:5 30:8    | 201:21                | 47:21 49:5,19      |\n| 190:16 193:22        | 38:14,22,23 39:9      | needs<br>89:16 92:11  | 51:24 52:14 54:20  |\n| money<br>114:17,22   | 39:12,13,14 86:14     | 92:18 97:22 98:5      | 57:8 58:7 59:21    |\n| 115:7,11 118:2,24    | 112:24 171:25         | 98:24 99:9 195:12     | 65:22 68:1 69:8    |\n| 118:25 122:1,7,20    | name<br>7:17 10:20    | 195:13 196:6          | 69:10,15 71:13,13  |\n| 127:17 128:11,14     | 17:5,18,23,25 18:4    | 202:20 206:20         | 72:1,1,4,8 73:22   |\n| 128:16,19,20         | 38:12,20,22,23,24     | neglected<br>87:22    | 81:3,6 90:18       |\n| 159:9,16 160:2,6     | 52:10 53:4,12,13      | negotiated<br>187:3,6 | 91:16,17,19,24     |\n| 160:14 161:23        | 53:19,24 54:12,13     | negotiating<br>191:4  | 92:9,17 93:6 95:4  |\n| 163:3,7,11 175:24    | 64:3 76:7,9,14        | negotiation<br>133:2  | 97:2 98:3,23       |\n| 176:4 178:11         | 134:11 147:15         | 133:5                 | 99:11 103:10       |\n| 180:13 208:5         | 150:19 170:16         | neither<br>54:15      | 104:6,10,13,15,22  |\n| moneys<br>159:1,5    | 171:18 175:20         | 212:20                | 104:24 109:11,13   |\n| month<br>96:14,15    | 193:12,17 211:11      | nephew<br>84:9        | 109:18 110:7,15    |\n| 109:6 138:17         | named<br>93:17        | netherland<br>72:21   | 110:17,20,25       |\n| monthly<br>192:8,13  | 148:24 212:8          | never<br>29:13 30:24  | 111:11,17 113:2    |\n| months<br>19:4 73:21 | native<br>58:20 59:21 | 31:8,8,9 39:5,6       | 113:20,21 114:12   |\n| 73:25 77:20,21,24    | 64:1 79:19 93:17      | 74:23 79:6 81:17      | 114:23 115:8,12    |\n| 78:23 148:23         | 148:2                 | 82:16 86:1,8          | 115:15 117:6,10    |\n| 149:3,7 173:7,17     | natural<br>96:5,7     | 104:21,24 173:4       | 118:3,8,14 119:5   |\n| morning<br>7:5,23    | necessarily<br>116:13 | 178:11 180:11         | 119:18 120:12      |\n| 8:1 10:3,19          | necessary<br>211:9    | 198:22 204:7          | 121:4,16 122:2,8   |\n| 181:11 185:1,1       | 214:14 215:3          | new<br>1:19,19 2:7,7  | 122:14 123:14      |\n| mother<br>11:6 29:25 | need<br>11:8 32:4     | 2:17,17,22 4:20       | 124:11 125:7       |\n| 39:22 50:2           | 46:25 52:5 63:22      | 5:4,12 7:1,1,10       | 126:22 127:7,18    |\n| move<br>25:9,11      | 66:17 70:2 98:11      | 8:3 10:12 14:23       | 128:12 129:14      |\n| 27:24 28:1,2 29:9    | 99:17 101:7,15        | 15:4 17:4 18:9,11     | 130:12 131:4,10    |\n| 30:1 31:14 65:12     | 106:9,20 107:18       | 18:15,17 23:24        | 132:19,21,22,23    |\n| 65:16 67:13 117:7    | 112:3 126:13          | 24:2,15,18 27:6       | 133:16 134:19      |\n| 129:10               |                       | 28:9 29:10,23         | 135:2,9 137:10     |\n|                      | 136:8,10 143:17       |                       |                    |\n\n**[new - okay]**\n\n| 140:25 148:12,18     | noting<br>156:22      | 52:2,18 54:23         | offer<br>81:24 92:2  |  |\n|----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|--|\n| 150:3,6,20 156:1,7   | november<br>4:24      | 65:11 71:16 90:2      | 111:16 120:9         |  |\n| 156:18 157:3         | number<br>7:13 10:6   | 92:13 94:17 95:18     | 154:22               |  |\n| 158:18 160:22        | 19:7 20:7 22:13       | 103:23 116:1          | offered<br>36:19     |  |\n| 163:22 164:14        | 28:15,17 43:4,5,10    | 121:5 122:9 123:4     | 93:18,22 120:24      |  |\n| 165:22 166:4,15      | 55:10 56:14 85:10     | 124:19 125:4          | office<br>115:17     |  |\n| 168:10 169:16,25     | 91:9 100:23 105:1     | 129:7,24 130:14       | 118:3 119:7          |  |\n| 174:16 175:14        | 157:1 166:23          | 140:6 153:11          | 123:21 124:6         |  |\n| 176:23 177:7,14      | 182:3 186:7           | 156:11 159:18         | 141:16,16,19,20      |  |\n| 178:1 180:5 181:5    | 187:19 198:5          | 161:4 165:5,17        | 141:21,21 157:18     |  |\n| 184:10,25 185:4      | 203:19,21 209:10      | 166:9 170:2           | 164:16,17,23         |  |\n| 186:10,15 187:4      | 209:17 212:7          | 191:23 193:1          | 181:17 182:17        |  |\n| 189:1 190:19         | 214:15 215:4          | 203:25                | 183:20 184:19,24     |  |\n| 192:3,12 193:18      | numbered<br>21:19     | objections<br>12:21   | 185:3,4 190:4        |  |\n| 194:2 195:5,7        | numbers<br>22:3,20    | 13:1 158:8            | 208:12 214:11        |  |\n| 199:23 201:10        | 22:22 32:24,25        | obvious<br>101:6      | officer<br>4:19 28:8 |  |\n| 206:8,13 207:15      | numerous<br>121:13    | 140:3 175:20          | 32:14 43:24 56:9     |  |\n| 208:8 209:9          | 204:2,4               | 193:15                | 123:8 175:13         |  |\n| nice<br>110:4        | nw<br>2:12 3:6        | obviously<br>54:15    | officers<br>37:9     |  |\n| nichols<br>3:16 7:17 | o                     | 65:15 86:1 93:20      | 148:17               |  |\n| niece<br>84:9        | o<br>17:5 30:9 38:14  | 95:23 100:18          | offices<br>140:25    |  |\n| nine<br>29:3,5       | 38:14,23,23,24        | 101:11 102:7          | official<br>76:14    |  |\n| nods<br>176:14       | 39:9,12,13,13,14      | 106:9,20 107:18       | officially<br>23:25  |  |\n| noise<br>171:6       | 39:14 112:24          | 109:2 117:15          | 24:17 40:22          |  |\n| nonpayment           | 116:22 147:16         | 127:21 129:16         | 170:13               |  |\n| 168:17 172:23        | 148:25                | 137:6 140:2           | oh<br>22:23 25:22    |  |\n| normal<br>102:12     | o'clock<br>67:2 112:8 | 141:14 154:8          | 65:20 69:3 71:6,8    |  |\n| notary<br>57:20      | 174:1                 | 170:24 171:19         | 86:23 96:3 109:20    |  |\n| notating<br>214:15   | o'melveny<br>2:11     | 194:15 198:8          | 115:16 139:19        |  |\n| 215:4                | 7:24 8:12 209:13      | 199:7,22              | 140:15 144:24        |  |\n| notations<br>207:16  | oath<br>50:10 60:15   | occasion<br>140:20    | 157:4 161:6 163:3    |  |\n| note<br>57:12 116:10 |                       | 141:3 179:3           | 163:5 198:4          |  |\n| 129:8 158:6          | 61:14 64:25           | 180:18                | okay<br>9:25 10:24   |  |\n| 192:22,25            | object<br>20:10 26:22 | occasions<br>105:24   | 11:6,17,19 12:1,6    |  |\n| noted<br>111:22      | 65:3 120:1 122:17     | 131:20 179:15         | 12:9,16,19 13:2,3    |  |\n| notes<br>189:7,22    | 125:24 126:23         | occurred<br>136:24    | 13:10,21 14:21,24    |  |\n| 207:20               | 128:21 150:7          | october<br>4:14 13:23 | 15:11,16 18:5,22     |  |\n| notice<br>5:10 15:8  | 157:19 192:24         | 14:10,25 36:9         | 18:24 19:5,20        |  |\n| 209:19               | 209:21                | 73:16 75:10 77:14     | 20:18,23 22:3,24     |  |\n| noticed<br>125:18    | objection<br>16:11    | 78:11 79:13 96:17     | 23:8,16,18 24:9,20   |  |\n| 160:23               | 26:1,20 38:3          | 171:9 173:8           | 25:9,21 27:20        |  |\n|                      | 41:19 44:19 45:3      |                       |                      |  |\n\n| Case 22-50073 | Doc 440-26 | Filed 05/25/22 | Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 | Page 263 |\n|---------------|------------|----------------|---------------------------|----------|\n|               |            |                |                           |          |\n\n204:19 205:15,19 206:16,24 207:11 207:21,24 208:21 **omm.com** 2:14,19\n\n**once** 13:23 69:22 69:25 83:3,5 105:20 109:7 **ones** 190:1,1,2 **online** 196:21\n\n> 197:6 202:11,17 202:19 203:13,16\n\n**open** 20:25 28:24\n\n**ooooo** 210:9\n\n**opened** 56:6\n\n2:19\n\nof 280\n\n29:7,17 31:10,24 32:20,24 33:7 136:22 137:2,9,16 138:6,9,12,15\n\n133:8 135:7\n\n139:4,10 140:17 141:2,11,23 142:2 142:9,14 143:2 145:1 146:13\n\n148:1,17,22 149:6 149:16,19 150:11 150:15,16,22 151:4 152:2,7,17 153:4 155:15,17 157:11,14 158:6 158:10,14 160:9 161:11,22 162:7 162:15 163:14,17 163:19 164:1,5,9\n\n28:4,13,23 29:2,3\n\n**[okay - page]**\n\n34:15 35:8 37:25 38:17 39:3,8,18 40:5 42:18 43:13 43:18 44:12 45:16 47:4 48:4 50:15 51:7,16 52:7 53:17 54:6,14 55:7,14 56:6,7,12 56:15 57:4,12,25 60:4,6,13,17 61:10 61:25 66:16 67:17 67:22 69:22,24 70:3,13,25 71:2,7 73:3,10,15,18 74:3 74:8 76:2,10 77:7 77:16 79:5 82:22 83:6,9,13,18 84:1 84:22 85:15 87:1 87:21 88:6,11 89:23 90:15,21,25 93:24 94:8 95:22 96:16 97:7 98:14 98:21 99:2,24 100:7,23 101:24 102:13,25 103:3 104:20 105:10 106:4,12,22 108:18,20 109:8 110:4,16,24\n\n111:19,21 112:11 112:23 113:1,3,16 113:19 114:12 117:21 118:1,5,24 119:10 120:11,19 120:22 121:2 123:20 124:4 125:1 126:16,19 132:1,9,15,16\n\n| 166:2,19 167:8,15 | operated<br>164:10  |\n|-------------------|---------------------|\n| 168:1 169:1,24    | operating<br>97:14  |\n| 171:3,4,21 172:4  | 192:8,13 208:7,11   |\n| 172:11,18,21      | operation<br>127:9  |\n| 173:6,10 175:2,10 | 128:17 142:17,19    |\n| 175:12,16 176:4,8 | 149:24 174:20       |\n| 176:15,21,25      | 179:6               |\n| 177:2,6,11,25     | operations<br>179:8 |\n| 178:11,16,24      | 195:15 208:6,8,15   |\n| 179:3,14,18       | opinion<br>179:4    |\n| 180:23 181:2,6,25 | 184:4               |\n| 183:4,10 185:5    | opportunity<br>2:12 |\n| 186:2,4,8,18      | 5:10 9:21 181:22    |\n| 187:20 188:15,22  | oral<br>190:2,12    |\n| 189:9,21,24 190:6 | 191:2,5,17 207:17   |\n| 190:11,24 192:11  | order<br>12:14      |\n| 192:16,19,22      | 111:12 162:12       |\n| 193:2,11,13,24    | organization        |\n| 194:6,18 195:19   | 122:6               |\n| 196:5,18,20       | organized<br>168:13 |\n\n**orient** 73:16 **original** 168:3 214:10,21\n\n43:14 55:19 56:16 **operate** 46:6 118:3 **originally** 32:4 176:5 **outcome** 212:23 **outfit** 179:6 **outside** 16:14 31:20 114:8 **outweighs** 129:5 **overstepping** 130:17 **owned** 18:18 86:24 109:21,23 115:17 206:8 **owner** 17:3 30:8 45:8 46:9 58:22 78:17 86:18 91:18 92:17 101:16 119:12 122:24,24 123:2,5 132:21,22 133:7 137:7 160:17 177:18 181:19 **ownership** 37:8 **owns** 109:22 110:1 110:7,20 111:10 111:17 122:6 206:25 **p p** 86:14 148:25 **p.m.** 174:4 209:6 210:8 **pacific** 2:11 5:9 7:11,25 8:12,14 9:20 174:22 175:7 209:13 **page** 4:3,11 5:2 6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 6:11 21:10,14,16\n\n21:20,24 22:3,4,12 22:12,13,17,20,22 23:2,6,6,9,21 29:3 29:5 32:24,25,25\n\n197:10,23 198:11 198:14 199:17 200:1,14 201:5 202:14,18,22\n\n**[page - please]**\n\n| 33:7 35:4 46:23      | parties<br>42:12     | 146:17 187:1         | 207:3,9              |\n|----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|\n| 47:3,4,7 55:22       | party<br>47:11 84:7  | perfect<br>11:10     | personally<br>41:2,6 |\n| 56:16,21,22 57:1,4   | 212:21               | perform<br>149:9     | 90:5 155:5,17,21     |\n| 57:12,14,15,25       | pass<br>36:11        | performed<br>26:19   | 191:4,20             |\n| 63:2 73:15 74:3,8    | passed<br>49:2       | 26:19,23 95:12       | personnel<br>15:19   |\n| 83:18 84:1 88:8      | patience<br>166:25   | period<br>24:6 25:2  | 16:22 193:18         |\n| 88:13 167:11,22      | 205:22 209:3         | 25:25 58:12          | pertains<br>20:5     |\n| 170:17 212:11        | pax<br>13:24 14:4,10 | 134:23 156:3         | phone<br>70:10 80:2  |\n| 214:15 215:4         | 125:13 127:3         | 203:10 214:18        | physical<br>26:22    |\n| 216:4,7,10,13,16     | 128:24 129:15,16     | 215:7                | 157:20               |\n| 216:19               | 129:18,19            | perjury<br>211:12    | physically<br>25:6   |\n| pages<br>4:15,18,22  | pay<br>68:11 81:17   | 214:17 215:6         | 27:9,11,18 196:20    |\n| 4:25 5:8,16 20:20    | 81:17 95:24 111:8    | permanent<br>27:25   | picked<br>35:24      |\n| 21:17,18,21,25       | 120:23 145:19        | permanently          | picky<br>152:15      |\n| 22:21,22 23:3        | 146:16,17,23         | 27:21,23             | piece<br>60:14       |\n| 74:5 88:8 214:14     | 148:12 177:8         | permission<br>106:16 | ping<br>1:17 4:13,23 |\n| 214:17,17 215:3,6    | 194:2,7,8 206:4,6    | 107:10,25 142:16     | 9:18 56:17 211:4     |\n| 215:6                | 206:14,15,22         | persecuted<br>48:10  | 212:8 214:1,5        |\n| paid<br>97:23 98:5   | paying<br>97:3,16    | person<br>11:22      | 216:2                |\n| 109:11 120:10        | 99:12 109:17         | 15:22 16:2 39:1,7    | place<br>161:20      |\n| 121:1 122:1          | 208:11,12            | 59:22 60:15 61:13    | 212:11               |\n| 123:23 147:22        | payment<br>99:18     | 70:10,22,24 74:18    | places<br>27:19      |\n| 151:14 186:23        | pays<br>81:17 109:13 | 77:10,14 79:17       | plainly<br>66:4,4    |\n| 202:5,7              | 109:13 110:25        | 80:2,14 84:24        | 170:9                |\n| pair<br>196:8        | 195:1,5              | 86:11 87:8 110:3     | plan<br>117:16,19    |\n| pangu<br>86:14,14,16 | pd<br>20:19          | 113:1 119:12         | 118:22 119:14        |\n| 86:24                | pdf<br>20:19 28:23   | 139:7 147:17         | 124:5 183:18         |\n| paperwork<br>60:12   | 172:8 214:12         | 150:23 151:1         | planned<br>119:3     |\n| 60:14 61:22,23       | 215:1                | 152:8,17,23,25       | planning<br>115:18   |\n| 164:21 170:21        | pearl<br>2:22        | 153:20 154:4         | plans<br>26:14 27:4  |\n| paragraph<br>168:2   | penalty<br>211:12    | 155:18,21 157:12     | playing<br>153:14    |\n| 168:11               | 214:16 215:5         | 160:21 192:23        | please<br>7:21 8:18  |\n| parents<br>100:16    | pending<br>126:20    | 206:11               | 8:21 9:6,15 10:1,8   |\n| part<br>36:19 80:13  | 130:16               | person's<br>38:20    | 11:14 12:2,11        |\n| 93:7 101:22          | people<br>34:12      | 155:6 193:17         | 13:6 20:4,25 26:2    |\n| 102:11 119:2         | 85:17 120:18         | personal<br>65:15    | 28:23 32:25 38:12    |\n| 121:3,8 124:22       | 121:14,18 152:12     | 90:9 92:11 133:18    | 39:17 40:19 41:21    |\n| 160:19,19 206:12     | 152:14 154:7,18      | 133:23 143:25        | 44:5,20 54:5,8       |\n| particular<br>63:13  | 157:15,17 202:24     | 149:8,11 150:9       | 55:19 56:21 57:14    |\n| 111:18 165:7         | percent<br>18:18     | 156:13 191:24        | 59:15 66:19 67:15    |\n| 180:3                | 65:22 146:11,16      | 197:3 206:24         | 70:13 83:13,18       |\n|                      |                      |                      |                      |\n\n### **[please - providing]**\n\n| 87:24 88:7 97:25      | prefer<br>12:13 39:21 | pretty<br>45:15 66:11 | 50:19,22 51:10,18   |\n|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|---------------------|\n| 98:12 99:15           | 53:19                 | 101:6 152:14          | 146:17 154:19       |\n| 103:24 119:24         | preference<br>12:22   | 203:19                | profile<br>201:12   |\n| 120:4 125:4 140:8     | prep<br>162:12 163:1  | prevailed<br>179:4    | profit<br>118:15,19 |\n| 143:18 144:9,10       | preparation<br>16:3   | 183:11 184:4          | 118:23 119:14       |\n| 151:22 152:20         | prepare<br>15:11,12   | previous<br>153:5     | 129:13,21,22        |\n| 163:17 167:11         | 15:20 16:10,23        | 154:7,12,20,25        | profits<br>14:19,19 |\n| 187:23 193:16         | 17:2,11,15,20 18:6    | 156:20                | project<br>118:9,21 |\n| 200:14 205:20         | 192:12                | previously<br>156:9   | 174:25 175:3,9,9    |\n| 207:15,25             | prepared<br>15:14     | prior<br>20:8 24:20   | 179:25 181:4        |\n| plus<br>154:11        | 44:3 61:5 62:24       | 44:25 153:17,18       | 182:6,12 183:15     |\n| podhaskie<br>148:24   | preparing<br>15:25    | 155:6                 | 184:5               |\n| 149:2,17,20 150:1     | prepped<br>144:24     | private<br>164:17     | projects<br>118:4,7 |\n| point<br>24:14 26:16  | 145:20                | privilege<br>146:1    | 118:23,23 174:21    |\n| 32:6 37:1 44:20       | present<br>3:19 42:12 | privileged<br>16:20   | 181:3,8             |\n| 87:22 124:23          | 158:10 171:17         | probably<br>148:7     | promise<br>196:22   |\n| 129:4 180:19          | 186:2                 | 192:17 195:23         | promptly<br>207:15  |\n| 183:11 189:14         | presents<br>158:4     | problem<br>12:14      | pronounce<br>17:23  |\n| 208:24                | president<br>42:22,25 | 32:2,7 40:1 54:9      | 17:24 39:23 54:12   |\n| pointed<br>131:21     | 45:24 46:12 47:20     | 62:21 112:5 126:2     | proper<br>125:20    |\n| populated<br>43:7     | 49:4 51:24 52:14      | 153:24 166:15         | 165:24              |\n| portion<br>186:13     | 54:19 58:6 65:21      | 173:5,6               | properly<br>164:11  |\n| position<br>131:18    | 67:25 68:16,18,23     | procedure<br>5:14     | 164:12              |\n| 152:13 156:17         | 90:17 91:15,23        | 214:19,20             | property<br>183:15  |\n| 158:2,3               | 92:9,16 93:5 95:6     | proceed<br>10:15      | prospective         |\n| positions<br>46:3     | 97:19 98:2,22         | 11:11 20:3,13         | 122:23 174:25       |\n| 50:24                 | 99:11 104:12          | 21:4 174:14           | 175:2               |\n| possession<br>131:4   | 105:7 110:18          | proceeding<br>11:4    | protonmail.com      |\n| 131:10 132:15,19      | 134:18 136:4          | 14:17 156:20          | 214:2               |\n| possibility<br>102:19 | 137:9 141:24          | 196:6                 | proud<br>50:8       |\n| possible<br>36:13     | 142:5,9 148:24        | proceedings<br>9:1    | provide<br>13:19    |\n| 37:24 41:15 96:22     | 151:10 152:11         | 9:11                  | 134:21 135:2,9      |\n| 139:16 191:12         | 155:8 159:12          | proceeds<br>129:2     | provided<br>114:17  |\n| 194:5 204:13          | 164:6 165:11,15       | process<br>99:17      | 136:17 156:9        |\n| potential<br>179:24   | 166:3 174:17,18       | 101:22 106:13         | 214:19 215:8        |\n| power<br>165:15       | 175:5 178:3,22        | 154:25                | provider<br>154:3   |\n| powers<br>165:10      | 180:5 181:16          | produce<br>186:10     | provides<br>60:15   |\n| precise<br>14:2 70:6  | 195:6,20              | 207:15                | 61:14               |\n| 104:4 158:25          | pressing<br>30:25     | professional<br>46:14 | providing<br>99:12  |\n| 186:7                 | pretend<br>101:25     | 46:16 47:14,15,22     | 169:11              |\n|                       | 197:22                | 49:8,9,13,20,25       |                     |\n|                       |                       |                       |                     |\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 266\n\nof 280\n\n70:10 75:22 76:9 76:12,25 77:9,13 77:17,22 78:12 **question** 11:12,12 12:3,5,11,13 14:12 16:16,19,21 20:4\n\n79:14,17 80:17,21 81:4,7,10,13,19 86:21 89:14 90:19\n\n| 92:3 94:9 95:23   | 30:20 31:1,12,13   | 165:2,18 166:2        |\n|-------------------|--------------------|-----------------------|\n| 96:9 97:14 98:15  | 31:16 32:9,12      | 169:5,9,13,21         |\n| 99:4 100:15       | 33:10,11 34:11     | 170:10,11 173:9       |\n| 104:17 106:2,10   | 35:12,13,19 36:21  | 174:13 177:9,13       |\n| 106:21 107:14,16  | 37:20 40:8,16,20   | 179:18 180:18         |\n| 107:19,24 109:23  | 41:22 42:4,10      | 183:14 188:20         |\n| 110:10 113:10,12  | 43:21 45:4,6,20    | 191:14,25 195:20      |\n| 113:23 114:14     | 47:6,18,19 48:6    | 199:25 200:1,23       |\n| 115:2,17,17,22    | 49:2,3,7,15,17     | 201:3 202:8 204:4     |\n| 116:6,18 117:7,13 | 50:18,20 51:7,22   | 204:6 206:16          |\n| 134:6,22 135:1,8  | 52:6,9,13,19,20,25 | 207:23 208:1,17       |\n| 135:18 136:2,3    | 54:4,8,18 56:25    | questions<br>6:1      |\n| 137:4,13 138:21   | 59:14,18,20 62:12  | 13:15 26:16,18,25     |\n| 139:11 142:15     | 63:6,15,18,22      | 27:7 37:3,7 63:1,8    |\n| 143:1,4 144:2     | 64:16 66:6,15      | 63:16 67:10 87:17     |\n| 147:18 148:3,5,10 | 67:9,16,24 68:15   | 128:4 129:1           |\n| 148:19 157:8      | 71:11,22 74:9,9,11 | 130:17 153:15         |\n| 159:3,7,10,22     | 74:14,15,17,20,23  | 180:17 205:24         |\n| 161:2 163:12      | 75:8,9 76:20,22,24 | 208:22,25 209:4       |\n| 164:18 165:21     | 77:7,8,16,17 78:5  | quick<br>166:20       |\n| 170:18 172:7,12   | 78:9,10,13 79:5,6  | quite<br>31:15 134:23 |\n| 175:12,17 177:18  | 79:9,12 80:9,19    | 170:5 199:5           |\n| 178:2,6,15,20,23  | 81:13 82:16 84:24  | quote<br>162:5,5      |\n| 179:16 180:7,20   | 85:20 88:14,15,22  | r                     |\n| 182:19 183:1,5    | 90:22 96:8,11      | r<br>116:22 147:15,16 |\n| 187:5 189:20      | 97:25 98:7,25      | 216:3,3               |\n| 191:3,8 194:16,16 | 102:15 103:25      | r&s<br>215:1,9        |\n| 195:24,25 199:4,8 | 109:10 116:17      | raise<br>8:20 9:5,15  |\n| 199:11,12,15,17   | 119:21 121:2,6     | raised<br>90:23       |\n| 199:22 200:8      | 122:10 123:13      | range<br>104:5 108:8  |\n| 201:7,12 206:11   | 125:3,19,21        | rate<br>186:24 187:3  |\n| 206:21            | 126:20,24 128:5    | 187:7,11,13           |\n| quality<br>154:9  | 130:4 131:6,12     |                       |\n\n21:4,9 22:5,6 23:10,16 26:22 27:3 29:7,9 30:16 144:12 145:3,25 147:9,25 150:8 153:21 154:5,20 155:11 156:25 158:25 159:20 161:12 162:21\n\n**[public's - read]**\n\n**public's** 57:20 **pull** 192:14 201:23 **pullcom.com** 3:13\n\n**pulled** 32:21 **pullman** 3:10 8:5 **purchase** 105:2,6 105:11,15,18,25 106:6,23 107:15 197:9 198:8,25 199:8 200:4,9,25 201:1,7,11,24,25 202:18 203:11 204:17,18\n\n**purchased** 100:25 101:4 110:10 181:13 198:9 199:9 201:22 **purchases** 203:8 **purpose** 38:7 115:15 116:5 118:1 164:25 **purposely** 75:23\n\n164:22\n\n212:18 **put** 21:4 29:8 44:10 84:6,11 126:10,13 166:19 175:19 209:23,23\n\n**putative** 42:3\n\n**q**\n\n**qiang** 17:4 24:24 30:8 31:25 32:5 34:14 38:21 39:12 39:21 40:3,8,17,24 41:6 45:9 46:2 48:9 53:20 55:3 68:10,24 69:10,18\n\n**purposes** 18:19 109:5 117:11 156:21 158:10 **pursuant** 5:12\n\n189:16\n\n**read** 21:8 23:18 47:17 48:1 61:16\n\n132:25 133:8,9 140:4 143:15,22\n\n**quarrel** 96:6\n\n**[read - relitigate]**\n\n| 64:14 66:1 68:4       | recall<br>13:25 14:15 | recess<br>66:24       | reframe<br>80:19      |\n|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 75:1 84:3,17,19       | 14:16 19:2 25:22      | 112:15 126:1,6        | refresh<br>21:3 35:25 |\n| 93:4 144:18 145:9     | 25:23 32:18 33:25     | 174:5                 | 36:20,22 169:1        |\n| 146:8 157:23          | 34:23,24 35:1         | recited<br>95:3 96:10 | refreshes<br>169:14   |\n| 168:24 170:14         | 40:23 41:5,10,12      | recognize<br>43:16    | refused<br>106:5      |\n| 171:17 203:4,7,14     | 44:3,4,16 45:12,13    | recognized<br>43:22   | 178:17,20,22          |\n| 203:15 205:14,17      | 45:16,23 59:2,4,6     | recollect<br>14:2     | regard<br>74:24       |\n| 211:5                 | 59:8 60:22,22         | recollection<br>21:3  | 79:14 80:10           |\n| reading<br>13:4,9     | 61:2,9 64:19,20,22    | 35:25 64:17 151:5     | regarding<br>30:6     |\n| 31:14 36:22 37:18     | 65:5,7,8 67:8 68:5    | 151:6 169:2,14        | 51:4 180:25           |\n| 39:17 85:2,4          | 69:20,23,24 70:1      | 187:18                | regards<br>79:7       |\n| 146:15 214:23         | 70:18 71:1,6 73:9     | reconvening<br>112:7  | 141:4                 |\n| 215:9                 | 80:24 82:7,9,11,12    | record<br>7:6,22      | regiment<br>195:24    |\n| reads<br>22:5 33:10   | 82:17,18,21 83:2,8    | 29:18,19 66:11,22     | register<br>4:19      |\n| real<br>47:15 51:9,13 | 87:10,11,17 90:13     | 67:1 112:13,17        | 43:24 56:10           |\n| 51:17 86:5 114:10     | 96:3,13,18,21,23      | 116:10 126:4,8,11     | regular<br>151:15,16  |\n| 115:20 117:21,24      | 97:1,5,5,9,11,16      | 126:14 157:23         | 201:8                 |\n| 117:24 118:9,11       | 97:17 100:9 103:8     | 158:6 165:18          | regularly<br>150:25   |\n| 166:20 180:4          | 104:7,8,11,18         | 166:10 170:25,25      | reject<br>106:10,11   |\n| 181:4 182:6           | 105:12,16,19,23       | 174:3,7 192:23        | 194:17,19             |\n| 183:15,19 184:4       | 106:9,25 110:23       | 200:22 209:5          | rejection<br>178:23   |\n| 194:24                | 115:5,10 117:8        | recorded<br>7:8 86:1  | related<br>39:8,10    |\n| really<br>26:6 65:12  | 127:25 134:11,12      | 189:8 190:12,13       | 80:22 114:10          |\n| 80:14 97:1 103:12     | 134:13 139:15,17      | 190:18,21             | 118:11 130:7          |\n| 121:10 142:1          | 140:19,20 141:2       | recorder<br>85:3      | 146:18 194:3          |\n| 195:1 197:19          | 145:23,24 147:10      | records<br>23:25      | 212:21                |\n| 200:2,2               | 147:12,13 149:18      | 189:11 207:16         | relates<br>26:3       |\n| realtor<br>51:13,14   | 149:19,23,24          | recruitment           | relationship<br>18:16 |\n| reason<br>13:18,20    | 166:11,13,16          | 152:11                | 42:2 45:1 129:20      |\n| 24:25 39:22 50:17     | 169:10 171:11,21      | refer<br>18:20 22:20  | 175:7                 |\n| 53:9 75:14 76:11      | 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 | resided<br>72:24     | 31:13 33:24 36:13     |\n| 159:14                | represent<br>7:25     | residence<br>71:18   | 36:15,18 39:15        |\n| reminding<br>67:22    | 14:9 172:11,19        | 206:9,25             | 40:6,7 42:24          |\n| reminds<br>71:10      | representation        | resolved<br>149:11   | 48:15,17 51:4,14      |\n| remote<br>1:14        | 25:4                  | respect<br>129:3     | 53:2,23,25 54:1       |\n| remotely<br>11:21     | representative        | 156:14,20 182:24     | 56:1,4,18 57:1,15     |\n| 146:1                 | 1:16 9:19 15:3        | 182:24 190:11        | 59:23 60:25 61:7      |\n| render<br>211:9       | 44:24 90:9            | 201:6                | 61:15,24 62:20        |\n| rent<br>161:20        | represented           | respected<br>165:16  | 64:5 65:18 66:7       |\n| 206:21                | 156:18 172:7          | response<br>47:5     | 69:4,15 73:20         |\n| rented<br>111:12      | representing<br>8:3,5 | rest<br>151:13       | 75:20 76:3,7,12       |\n| reopen<br>158:24      | 8:8,10,12             | restroom<br>66:18    | 79:12,23 82:13        |\n| repaid<br>158:18,21   | represents<br>26:8    | result<br>181:23     | 88:2 89:5,16 91:6     |\n| 163:15 184:11         | 172:9                 | 212:22               | 91:25 92:11,20        |\n| repay<br>206:1        | request<br>45:11      | retained<br>138:25   | 94:4,6,10,21 98:8     |\n| repeat<br>16:16 49:23 | 58:23 99:5 106:5      | 147:18 209:11        | 98:19 101:6,15        |\n| 52:18 54:3,8          | 111:22 131:9          | return<br>25:25      | 102:4,17 103:10       |\n| 92:15 97:25 131:8     | 132:18,23 133:3       | 214:17 215:6         | 106:19 108:1,20       |\n| 143:17 147:4          | 133:15,20 134:4       | returned<br>149:12   | 110:8 111:1,23        |\n| 152:20                | 134:14 156:21         | returning<br>123:13  | 116:24 117:9          |\n| repeated<br>156:19    | 186:9,9,16 192:16     | returns<br>123:15    | 119:16 121:21         |\n| rephrase<br>12:12     | 195:22 207:12,12      | revenue<br>118:20    | 124:6 125:15          |\n| 191:25                | 207:14                | 123:23 124:7,7       | 127:11,22 128:2       |\n|                       |                       |                      | 129:16 130:13         |\n|                       |                       |                      |                       |\n\n**[right - see]**\n\n| 131:17 132:5          | 52:2,18 54:23         | s                      | 170:4 186:9 190:6     |\n|-----------------------|-----------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|\n| 135:24 136:20         | 65:11,18 66:10        | s<br>2:5 4:9 5:4 18:15 | 192:23 196:22         |\n| 137:2 141:6,25        | 67:14 71:16,23        | 34:1 38:14,23          | 207:1,12              |\n| 142:7 145:11          | 90:2,12,22 92:13      | 81:6 115:15 125:7      | screen<br>172:22      |\n| 148:13,22,25          | 94:17 95:18           | 147:15,16 148:25       | 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138:20 163:17         |\n| 183:18,21 189:17      | 153:11,14 156:8       | saw<br>23:15 50:18     | 205:20                |\n| 190:19 194:20         | 157:19 158:12         | 140:23 145:16,21       | secret<br>132:17      |\n| 197:13,14 198:12      | 159:18 161:4,8        | 199:6                  | secretary<br>42:23,25 |\n| 200:10 202:20         | 165:5,17 166:9        | saying<br>54:13 65:25  | 45:25 46:13 47:20     |\n| 203:16 204:15         | 170:2,11 186:16       | 92:12 94:13 95:1       | 49:4 97:20 98:2       |\n| 207:20 208:21         | 187:23 188:13         | says<br>20:1,19 51:8   | 110:19 134:18         |\n| 209:2 210:1           | 190:8 191:23          | 56:13,17 58:5          | 142:6 166:4           |\n| rights<br>127:2       | 193:3 203:25          | 84:5 89:9 107:8        | secured<br>3:10       |\n| risk<br>158:4 175:20  | 204:2 207:7,20,22     | 167:23,23,24           | 108:25                |\n| role<br>46:12 68:14   | 209:21,23 210:2,4     | 168:2,12 172:22        | 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               |\n\n109:4,11,13,18,21 109:22,25 110:7 110:14,17,20,25 111:11,17 113:21 114:12,15,23 115:8,12,14,16\n\n176:23 177:7,14 177:18 178:1,3 180:5 184:10 185:3 186:9,14\n\n**sound** 18:13 33:24 **sounds** 11:10 18:4 18:21,24 21:5 22:8 23:11,20,24 23:25 24:2,3,12,13 24:14,18,21,23\n\n18:15,16,17,18,20\n\n25:6,16,18 27:6,10 27:15 28:9 30:8 32:10,13,15,19 33:12,18,20,25 34:1,3,4,7,9,9,13 34:16,22,25 35:14 35:20 36:2,24 37:21 38:1,18\n\n40:9,18,22 41:4,17 42:2,5,21 43:25 44:15,17,21,25\n\n**sorts** 89:25\n\n**[sorts - started]**\n\n149:4 209:1\n\n33:17 204:19 **source** 115:7 118:17,18,20 119:2 123:14,17 123:20 124:9 159:1,5 160:24\n\n162:10,23 **speak** 13:6 54:11 54:15 70:10 126:16 139:18 140:5 151:5,7\n\n155:5\n\n209:20\n\n**spring** 2:21 4:20 5:3,11 7:10 8:3 15:3,20 16:9,22 17:2,4,10 18:9,11\n\n**spend** 17:6 173:18 **spoke** 135:18,21 **spoken** 115:3,6 139:13 140:14 180:12 191:16\n\n| 45:7,17,21,25 46:6 |\n|--------------------|\n| 46:13 47:10,21     |\n| 49:5,19 50:24      |\n| 51:24 52:14 54:20  |\n| 58:6,21,22,23      |\n| 59:21 65:21 67:25  |\n| 68:10,11,16,23     |\n| 69:2,8,9,13,14,18  |\n| 70:16 71:4,12      |\n| 72:1,8 73:22,24    |\n| 74:21,24 77:18,21  |\n| 77:25 78:12,19     |\n| 79:7,15,18 80:5,11 |\n| 80:12,13,18,22     |\n| 81:3,6 86:22 90:4  |\n|                    |\n\n90:9,18 91:16,17 91:18,24 92:9,16 93:6 95:4,24 97:2 97:20 98:3,23 99:11 100:16\n\n102:7,23,25 103:4 103:7,9 104:6,10 104:13,14,17,22 104:24 105:8 107:15,18 108:3\n\n| 114:12,15,23       | 195:4,7,15,22          |\n|--------------------|------------------------|\n| 115:8,12,14,16     | 198:22,24 199:14       |\n| 116:5,8 117:6,10   | 201:10,23 202:7        |\n| 118:7,14 119:4,13  | 202:10 206:8,13        |\n| 119:13,18,23       | 206:22 207:14          |\n| 120:12,20,23,24    | 208:5,8 209:9          |\n| 121:1,4,15 122:1,7 | spring's<br>102:22     |\n| 122:13,20,21       | 121:19 124:21          |\n| 123:8,13 124:11    | 125:14,22 126:25       |\n| 125:7 126:21       | 128:23 129:17          |\n| 127:7,8,9,17       | 190:23                 |\n| 128:12,19,20       | square<br>2:6,7,16,17  |\n| 129:14 130:11,15   | 3:11                   |\n| 131:3,9 132:18,21  | squarely<br>65:20      |\n| 132:22,23 133:7    | srosen<br>2:24         |\n| 133:16 134:19      | ss<br>211:1 212:1      |\n| 135:2,9 136:1,17   | ssarnoff<br>2:19       |\n| 137:7,10 140:25    | stamp<br>167:23        |\n| 141:24 148:6,12    | stand<br>11:8 45:3     |\n| 148:15,18 150:2,6  | 132:3                  |\n| 150:20 151:11,25   | stands<br>132:1,9,11   |\n| 152:19,24 153:1    | 132:15                 |\n| 153:10 156:1,6,18  | start<br>12:3,20 23:25 |\n| 157:3,22 158:16    | 29:10,23 30:10,17      |\n| 158:17,20 159:13   | 30:19 31:1,14,17       |\n| 160:21,24 163:21   | 32:10 71:4 78:6        |\n| 164:10,14 165:16   | 118:22 173:18          |\n| 165:22 166:4,5,14  | 174:20                 |\n| 168:9 169:3,3,15   | started<br>10:22       |\n| 169:16,23,25       | 24:11,17 28:8        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58:21      |\n| 9:25 10:5,12 57:8     | 134:5 146:11          | 94:4,15 118:4,6      | 66:16,19 69:10         |\n| 167:16 168:22         | 163:20 176:15         | 119:8,13 127:9       | 84:19 91:18 96:1       |\n| 211:1 212:1,6         | submitted<br>43:19    | 128:16 147:24        | 96:4 98:16 99:5,6      |\n| 214:9,12              | subordinated          | 182:22               | 100:11,16 102:2        |\n| stated<br>68:18 98:15 | 130:21                | supported<br>118:8   | 108:10,10 109:6        |\n| statement<br>157:22   | subpoenaed            | supporting<br>114:3  | 111:15,20 112:4        |\n| 191:22 192:5          | 129:16                | suppose<br>50:20     | 125:25 139:2           |\n| states<br>1:1 3:4,4   | subscribe<br>211:11   | supposed<br>92:8     | 141:17 143:5           |\n| 7:12 25:10,12,15      | substance<br>211:8    | 118:21 124:6         | 148:6,11,16 158:7      |\n| 25:19,24 27:21        | substantiating        | 130:18               | 159:11 160:1,4,10      |\n| 28:5 91:13 115:19     | 186:12                | supreme<br>57:8      | 160:13,18 161:2        |\n| 117:13 125:23         | succeeded<br>175:4    | sure<br>12:23 21:23  | 161:13,19,22,23        |\n| stay<br>27:12 39:21   | success<br>206:5      | 22:15 24:10 26:5     | 162:4,17,22            |\n| 51:3 66:7 87:3        | successful<br>174:15  | 42:24 54:9 62:15     | 173:22,25 180:9        |\n| 102:1 207:2           | 175:8,17,22 176:3     | 63:18 90:21,23       | 181:23,23 186:17       |\n| stayed<br>73:3,7      | 176:5                 | 97:21 99:5 102:18    | 195:12 197:11          |\n| staying<br>27:12      | successfully          | 103:15 104:1,1       | 207:23                 |\n| stays<br>206:9        | 120:25                | 106:12 112:2         | taken<br>4:13 7:10     |\n| stenotypy<br>212:14   | sued<br>58:9          | 120:2,5 131:15       | 66:24 98:25            |\n| stick<br>40:3 203:21  | sufficient<br>158:10  | 140:10 142:4         | 112:15 126:6           |\n| stipulation<br>214:20 | suggest<br>31:3 112:7 | 143:16 167:6         | 127:2 174:5            |\n| stipulations<br>12:21 | 163:6                 | 172:4,15 182:2       | 186:14 212:10          |\n| 12:25                 | suggesting<br>32:7    | 188:2,23 192:1       | takes<br>112:7         |\n| stop<br>12:4 66:3     | 33:22 60:24 61:3      | 203:19 205:10,10     | talent<br>154:9        |\n| store<br>202:9,10     | 155:12 164:24         | survivor<br>48:12    | talk<br>69:21 70:1,2,2 |\n| stores<br>197:6       | 197:17                | suzanne<br>1:25 7:19 | 80:8 99:7 131:22       |\n| strategic<br>14:18,19 | suit<br>194:9 197:21  | 112:6 212:5 213:4    | 140:1 151:20           |\n| street<br>2:12,22 3:6 | 197:25                | swear<br>8:18        | 176:21                 |\n| 7:3 184:20 185:3      | sunny<br>3:17 8:23    | swore<br>62:7 65:17  | talked<br>69:24 70:8   |\n| 190:3                 | 10:6 40:15 52:8       | 91:12                | 70:9 126:18            |\n| strictly<br>38:7      | super<br>12:1,9 13:21 | sworn<br>9:1,11,21   | 176:18 195:9           |\n| strongly<br>129:8     | 43:13                 | 57:21 60:15 61:14    | talking<br>22:18,21    |\n| 156:22                | supervision           | 212:9                | 32:24 65:23 71:19      |\n| structure<br>37:9     | 212:15                | system<br>10:12      | 71:20 72:5,7 77:1      |\n| 117:16                |                       |                      | 84:15,25 85:12         |\n|                       |                       |                      |                        |\n\n#### **[talking - time]**\n\n| 91:1,3,7 92:5        | 86:4,6 131:14          | 185:10 188:14         | thoughts<br>107:1    |\n|----------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|\n| 100:2 125:15         | 146:19                 | 190:9 201:17          | threatened<br>84:11  |\n| 136:19 177:3         | terms<br>144:5,11,16   | 205:22 209:3          | 86:2                 |\n| 180:1,2 181:4        | 186:20 189:17          | thanks<br>163:19      | three<br>4:22,24     |\n| 182:9 205:3,4        | 191:1                  | 166:25                | 21:14 29:20 30:2     |\n| 207:19               | terrible<br>85:16      | thereof<br>212:23     | 30:2 36:6,9,14       |\n| task<br>36:5 45:11   | test<br>48:15 171:5    | thereon<br>211:10     | 43:4,10 48:17        |\n| 46:9 58:23           | testified<br>9:22      | thing<br>55:21 84:4   | 49:1,10 51:5         |\n| tasks<br>45:14       | 30:23 40:5 48:13       | 95:14 105:14          | 56:22 57:1,13,14     |\n| taxes<br>168:17      | 50:11 89:12 97:13      | 108:25 141:12         | 65:7,17 84:3,18      |\n| 172:23               | 104:20 120:16          | 182:18                | 127:15 168:2         |\n| team<br>157:23       | 161:8 181:10           | things<br>11:20 47:8  | 170:17 184:5         |\n| 174:19               | 183:20 185:2           | 66:17 85:16 89:25     | tight<br>19:11       |\n| technically<br>24:2  | 204:2                  | 92:22 97:7 99:9       | tim<br>18:1,2        |\n| 170:20               | testify<br>44:24 48:24 | 99:13 107:22,23       | time<br>11:23 17:6,8 |\n| telephone<br>16:9,22 | 80:11 94:19 95:15      | 127:15,20 136:20      | 24:4,6,23 25:2,5     |\n| tell<br>29:5 31:18   | 191:24                 | 182:1 194:9 195:1     | 25:13,16,18,25       |\n| 35:6 43:16 46:4,8    | testifying<br>48:7     | 198:25 199:19,21      | 27:20 28:4 34:11     |\n| 47:2 58:2,15         | 61:23 64:5 75:18       | 200:4                 | 34:22,25 35:4        |\n| 59:25 73:13 74:6     | 90:8 159:13            | think<br>13:18,20     | 37:22 38:18 40:17    |\n| 81:18,21,23 83:21    | testimony<br>4:12      | 24:9 34:8 41:21       | 40:24 41:3,9,17      |\n| 86:22 93:10 94:3     | 13:19 15:8 26:12       | 50:11 58:25 62:14     | 42:5 44:8 49:18      |\n| 97:10 99:15 109:3    | 29:19 36:5,12          | 66:10,16 86:3         | 54:8 62:13,15,17     |\n| 109:25 110:5         | 37:23 48:2,8,15,16     | 93:8 94:12 100:21     | 62:18 63:23 64:9     |\n| 113:25 117:9         | 51:2,2 60:15           | 117:4 119:15          | 66:23 67:2,15        |\n| 125:13 128:18        | 61:14 63:3 64:7        | 129:6 140:15,18       | 69:4,18 80:24        |\n| 134:12 138:2         | 75:25 76:3 94:12       | 150:11 156:11         | 83:6 84:19 94:24     |\n| 144:2 159:25         | 94:15,19 96:20         | 157:24 160:14         | 96:4,12,17,20 97:6   |\n| 160:2 175:21         | 106:14 132:24          | 166:19 167:1,24       | 98:10,14,18          |\n| 184:1,1,2 198:17     | 159:15,19 161:5,7      | 181:25 182:10         | 103:18 104:8         |\n| 199:1                | 188:4 209:7            | 183:10,23 190:16      | 106:14,18 112:14     |\n| telling<br>19:14     | 212:16                 | 194:25 200:1          | 112:18 123:8         |\n| 194:24               | thank<br>8:17 10:13    | 201:13 203:4          | 124:13 126:5,9       |\n| ten<br>17:8,9 22:4   | 10:14 11:18 12:8       | 205:24                | 127:24 134:23        |\n| 23:9 33:8 66:19      | 12:18 16:7 40:2,4      | thinking<br>75:13     | 136:4 138:4,4,8,12   |\n| 117:3 163:17         | 55:7 67:17 71:8        | thirty<br>21:11,14,16 | 139:4 140:8,17       |\n| 167:24 185:16,18     | 71:23 78:8 84:21       | 21:20 22:4,12         | 143:15 144:14        |\n| tendered<br>160:21   | 84:23 88:6 111:23      | 23:2,6,9 33:1,7       | 145:16 148:22        |\n| tendering<br>191:5   | 113:19 126:19          | 132:8 205:19          | 156:3 162:9,23,25    |\n| term<br>81:8,14      | 129:11 156:15          | thought<br>128:3      | 163:3,13 166:5       |\n| 84:13 85:19,22,24    | 167:7 173:20           | 171:4                 | 167:24 168:16        |\n|                      |                        |                       |                      |\n\n| Case 22-50073 | Doc 440-26 | Filed 05/25/22 | Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 | Page 274 |\n|---------------|------------|----------------|---------------------------|----------|\n|               |            |                |                           |          |\n\n**translated** 11:13\n\n75:10,11 77:13\n\nof 280\n\n**told** 35:18,19 43:8\n\n169:15,23,24\n\n**[time - turn]**\n\n| 173:17,18 174:4,8    | 60:17 61:12 63:8       | 11:14 12:14 65:6      | 78:3,10 79:13,13      |\n|----------------------|------------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 176:16,18 195:2      | 63:9,10 65:23          | 83:6 89:6             | 79:15 80:11,16,18     |\n| 203:10 205:23        | 79:24 87:5,7 89:3      | translation<br>31:16  | 80:20 81:2,5,8,14     |\n| 209:3 212:11         | 91:12 110:24           | 89:4,24 94:5          | 85:22,23 89:11        |\n| 214:10,18,24         | 133:19,22 135:15       | translator<br>88:24   | 91:12 97:14 108:6     |\n| 215:7                | 137:22,24,24           | 92:23 93:2,10,19      | 108:22 169:22         |\n| times<br>2:6,7,16,17 | 138:20 139:2           | 95:10,11 131:5        | 175:24 183:4          |\n| 26:17 66:1 82:15     | 145:7 148:10           | 200:15                | 193:17 211:9,13       |\n| 95:3 105:17,22       | 162:21 176:11,13       | transport<br>111:13   | 212:15                |\n| 138:21 139:20,22     | 179:14 180:6,9,11      | transportation        | trust<br>160:16       |\n| 139:24 140:1,18      | 199:18                 | 99:10 107:13,22       | trustee<br>3:4 8:16   |\n| 151:3 159:14         | tongue<br>11:6         | 108:11 109:11,17      | 146:18 194:25         |\n| 184:6 200:8 204:2    | tonight<br>210:7       | 111:1,3               | 196:7                 |\n| 204:4 208:4          | top<br>56:1 57:1 74:8  | travel<br>25:19 26:14 | truth<br>50:5 80:23   |\n| timing<br>182:4      | 187:22                 | 26:17 27:4 40:12      | truthful<br>13:19     |\n| timothy<br>18:1      | topic<br>44:20 87:14   | 111:7                 | 31:21 59:25 61:22     |\n| title<br>42:21 89:17 | 94:20 174:14           | traveled<br>23:23     | 62:1,3,9 63:3 64:2    |\n| 93:19 95:1,2         | topics<br>15:6,10 20:5 | 24:7 27:16,17         | 64:6                  |\n| titles<br>44:15 45:2 | 20:9 26:2 37:7,8       | 109:7                 | truthfully<br>13:16   |\n| 49:19 65:24 95:3     | 38:6 41:25 65:19       | travels<br>108:13,23  | try<br>11:7 12:12     |\n| 98:22 137:10         | 160:23,23              | 117:14                | 37:13 71:21 76:18     |\n| 142:5,7 180:16       | total<br>187:16        | treasurer<br>42:23,25 | 87:14 98:10,14        |\n| today<br>11:5 13:19  | 209:10                 | 45:25 46:13 47:20     | 129:9 138:14          |\n| 15:2,7,8,12,20,25    | tower<br>2:6,16        | 49:4 97:20 98:2       | 150:13 169:12         |\n| 16:24 17:2 36:3      | transaction            | 103:9 104:12          | trying<br>26:6,9 32:7 |\n| 49:2 65:19 92:20     | 197:20                 | 110:18 122:13,20      | 50:25 51:1 65:16      |\n| 94:15,20 109:5       | transcribed            | 128:2 134:19          | 70:7 92:7 93:5,8      |\n| 115:22 130:22        | 212:14                 | 142:6,12 159:12       | 95:13 111:9 114:7     |\n| 131:21 136:19        | transcript<br>4:12,16  | 164:6 165:11,15       | 116:3,7 128:11        |\n| 140:13 150:2         | 13:4,9 20:8 21:11      | 166:4 180:5 195:6     | 135:14 136:13,13      |\n| 158:9 159:13         | 21:25 22:21 31:2       | trial<br>4:16 13:1    | 143:10 163:6,9        |\n| 162:13 163:1         | 36:22 37:18 39:17      | 96:20                 | 172:15 180:3,14       |\n| 176:16 182:9         | 48:1 50:16 51:8        | tried<br>92:23 165:9  | 180:16 184:22         |\n| 209:4                | 76:20 85:3 93:4        | tries<br>197:25       | 196:23 197:19         |\n| today's<br>16:10     | 210:3 212:16,18        | trip<br>194:9 195:12  | 200:23                |\n| 17:11,16,20 18:7     | 214:6,8,10,13,13       | 196:3                 | tuesday<br>1:18 7:2   |\n| 18:19 116:12         | 214:21 215:2,2         | true<br>51:3,11,23    | 212:10                |\n| 133:17,21 134:5      | translate<br>40:19     | 52:15 54:20 62:6      | turn<br>29:3 73:10    |\n| 209:7,20             | 59:16 82:22 89:6       | 62:17,19 63:13        | 87:23                 |\n|                      | 89:15 92:10,19         | 67:24 69:1,7 75:4     |                       |\n\n**twelve** 84:2,17 **twenty** 4:18 59:5 84:3,18 88:13 51:6 52:6 59:14 59:19 60:13 61:12 63:2,10,11 64:10 64:11,12,14,16,25\n\n40:13 49:1 50:1\n\n66:8 70:5 79:18 86:21,23 89:15,20 90:22 92:1 93:8 94:25 95:2,2,5,13 98:25 106:13 110:13 123:25 124:20 129:6 130:4 131:6\n\n132:25 136:14,16 136:19,25 143:10 146:2,9 153:21 156:17 158:1 160:12 177:4,23 179:11,13 180:14 180:16 182:1,14 186:16 188:19,23 189:13,13 190:8 192:19,24 195:3,8 196:23 197:19 200:24 201:18 202:4 207:19,22 **understanding**\n\n31:16 36:4 39:16 58:19 68:9,13,14 78:15 79:3,20,22 92:4 113:22,25 114:22 119:8 122:25 123:22 129:18 131:17 148:14 154:17 155:9,22 159:23 161:20 162:6 163:14 171:19 180:4 199:10 205:25 206:3,7\n\n**turning** 118:19\n\n**[turning - visited]**\n\n139:24 140:1\n\n**two** 4:14 19:18 20:20 28:16 30:2 47:17 67:12,12 74:10 85:9 97:7 136:20 149:3 152:1,3,4,6 182:1 182:16 203:21\n\n**type** 108:20\n\n171:25\n\n155:16\n\n**uk** 27:17 115:24 116:18 117:7 148:5 199:17,20 **ultimately** 109:23\n\n**una** 3:18 9:8 **understand** 11:9 11:24 12:11,23 14:3 15:2 21:22 22:19,19 24:9 26:24 27:13,18 30:1 32:8 40:12\n\n**u.s.** 8:16 23:23 24:8 27:17 114:8 125:8 126:22 142:23 146:18 194:25 196:7 **uh** 54:2 137:19\n\n**types** 99:19 111:17 **typically** 119:7\n\n**u u** 17:5 30:9 38:23 38:24 39:9,9,12 86:14 112:24 116:22 147:15\n\n157:15\n\n153:15\n\n|                      | values<br>128:5      |\n|----------------------|----------------------|\n| 186:5                |                      |\n| unfamiliar<br>144:15 | various<br>26:17     |\n|                      | vehicle<br>111:7,10  |\n| unfortunately        | vehicles<br>109:19   |\n| 170:6                | 181:12,20 182:8      |\n| unified<br>10:11     |                      |\n| unit<br>7:8          | 182:25 183:1         |\n| united<br>1:1 3:4,4  | vendor<br>99:22      |\n|                      | 100:6 101:1,3        |\n| 7:12 25:10,12,15     | vendors<br>118:12    |\n| 25:19,24 27:21       | verdolino<br>193:5,7 |\n| 28:5 115:19          |                      |\n| 117:13 125:23        | verify<br>99:16,17   |\n|                      | 100:13,19,25         |\n| units<br>209:10      | 101:7,14,18,20       |\n| unnecessarily        | 102:3,8,9 197:8,8    |\n| 196:24               | 198:9 199:8,14       |\n| unprofessional       |                      |\n| 52:11                | 200:10               |\n|                      | verifying<br>101:1   |\n| unsecured<br>8:6     | veritext<br>7:18,20  |\n| unwilling<br>128:18  | 209:11 214:7,9,11    |\n| 130:11               |                      |\n| uploading<br>19:13   | video<br>7:8 16:6    |\n|                      |                      |\n\n**understood** 13:10 20:14 61:6 64:21\n\n76:15 97:18 107:20 120:3 121:12 148:11 161:25 171:7 182:7 195:23\n\n201:13\n\n**undocumented**\n\n**urgency** 138:8 **usability** 127:1\n\n> 202:23,24 203:1,3 203:7,8,23 204:9\n\n128:23 **usdoj.gov** 3:8 **use** 53:19 90:3 98:11 102:22 104:14 109:1 120:2 133:11 144:8 200:15\n\n204:10\n\n| 181:12,20 182:8      |\n|----------------------|\n| 182:25 183:1         |\n| vendor<br>99:22      |\n| 100:6 101:1,3        |\n| vendors<br>118:12    |\n| verdolino<br>193:5,7 |\n| verify<br>99:16,17   |\n| 100:13,19,25         |\n| 101:7,14,18,20       |\n| 102:3,8,9 197:8,8    |\n| 198:9 199:8,14       |\n| 200:10               |\n| verifying<br>101:1   |\n| veritext<br>7:18,20  |\n| 209:11 214:7,9,11    |\n| video<br>7:8 16:6    |\n| videoconference      |\n| 16:9,23              |\n| videographer<br>3:16 |\n| 7:5,18 8:17 10:14    |\n| 66:19,21,25          |\n| 112:12,16 126:3,7    |\n| 174:2,6 209:1,5      |\n| videotaped<br>1:14   |\n| view<br>42:1 183:11  |\n| virtually<br>7:15    |\n| vision<br>14:18,20   |\n| visited<br>72:22     |\n\n**user** 204:3,7 **uses** 202:22\n\n**usual** 12:25\n\n**vague** 165:19 **value** 127:6\n\n**v** 2:11\n\n204:18 205:7,8,9\n\n**v**\n\n| Case 22-50073 | Doc 440-26 | Filed 05/25/22 | Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 | Page 276 |\n|---------------|------------|----------------|---------------------------|----------|\n|---------------|------------|----------------|---------------------------|----------|\n\n**[void - witness]**\n\n| void<br>166:7 168:17              | 119:22 121:3,23      | 190:11 197:2        | went<br>30:4 144:19   |\n|-----------------------------------|----------------------|---------------------|-----------------------|\n| 169:4,19 170:1                    | 121:25 122:6,21      | 201:2 209:2,8       | 162:13                |\n| 171:15 172:23                     | 136:18 139:13,18     | 211:4 212:8 214:1   | whatnot<br>158:23     |\n| 173:2,13                          | 140:14,21 149:21     | 214:5 216:2         | whatsoever<br>38:5    |\n| w                                 | 151:7,14 172:19      | want<br>21:7 24:10  | whereabouts           |\n|                                   | 176:23 177:6,16      | 27:1 32:6 39:23     | 26:17 42:12           |\n| w<br>38:14 39:9,13,13<br>39:14,14 | 177:19 178:8,15      | 55:21 60:18 62:14   | whistle<br>117:18     |\n| wait<br>12:2,4 19:9               | 178:17 186:1         | 66:2,2,7 71:17      | wife<br>101:13 103:6  |\n| 43:7 78:7                         | 187:7,10 189:1,16    | 84:4 86:20 88:1     | 103:13 104:5,9,14     |\n| waiting<br>78:8                   | 189:20 191:6,9,16    | 90:21,23 106:12     | 201:24 202:1,24       |\n| waive<br>13:4,8                   | 192:13 193:20        | 108:24 125:3        | 204:9,20 205:15       |\n| waived<br>214:23,23               | 195:11 196:2         | 126:10 127:20       | 205:16,17             |\n| waiving<br>214:20                 | 199:19 200:4,24      | 129:1 150:13,18     | wife's<br>201:21      |\n| walk<br>196:9                     | 201:1,6,24 204:20    | 154:8 175:19        | 202:1                 |\n| walks<br>197:20                   | 204:21 205:11        | 176:21 181:15       | wilkinson<br>3:18 9:8 |\n| wan<br>1:8 2:5 7:11               | 206:1,14 214:4       | 182:2,20 208:25     | 53:16                 |\n| 8:8 39:18 40:6                    | 216:1                | wanted<br>111:7     | william<br>170:16,19  |\n| 41:16,24 42:1                     | wan's<br>68:20 77:1  | 201:14              | 172:3,9               |\n| 45:18,22 52:1,16                  | 93:14 106:23         | wants<br>106:24     | williams<br>172:2,7   |\n| 52:22 53:5,7,9,13                 | wang<br>1:17 4:13,23 | 197:21 198:1        | 172:19                |\n| 53:21 54:22 58:10                 | 7:9 9:18 10:19       | 200:5,24            | willing<br>82:4       |\n|                                   |                      |       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20:11        |\n| 90:16 91:2,14                     | 95:13 104:4          | wealth<br>159:22    | 21:1,12 23:4 26:7     |\n| 92:10 94:16 95:7                  | 111:10 112:20,20     | 161:9,13,21 162:1   | 26:11,15 27:6         |\n| 97:22 98:4,24                     | 120:7 121:12         | 162:6               | 28:25 29:4 32:22      |\n| 99:13 100:8,12,24                 | 123:3 125:7          | websites<br>203:20  | 33:2,9 35:3,5 36:3    |\n| 101:4,12 102:17                   | 126:16 131:20        | week<br>69:25 71:2  | 37:2,15 38:4,9        |\n| 103:13 104:5,9,14                 | 139:25 143:20        | 139:20,22 140:16    | 40:21 42:5,10,16      |\n| 104:21 105:5,15                   | 146:4 150:18         | 140:16,24 151:3     | 43:15 44:21 46:19     |\n| 105:24 106:6,15                   | 155:11 156:25        | weeks<br>73:8       | 46:22,24 52:5         |\n| 106:24 107:8                      | 158:17 163:21        | wengui<br>39:9 53:2 | 53:10 54:25 55:12     |\n| 108:22 110:25                     | 171:7 174:13         | 53:5,12             | 55:12,23 56:23        |\n| 111:13 115:3,6<br>118:6 119:10,20 | 186:20 188:17        |                     | 57:5,17 58:1          |\n\n#### **[witness - york]**\n\n| 59:19 65:17 66:8     | 78:20,20 79:21      | written<br>63:2 188:9 | 44:16 45:12 48:17     |\n|----------------------|---------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|\n| 66:14 67:9,15        | 81:19 86:11,17      | 189:4 191:18          | 49:1,10 51:5          |\n| 73:12 74:4 83:14     | 89:24 92:17         | 212:13                | 61:19 64:22 65:8      |\n| 83:20 87:25 88:4     | 147:19 149:24       | wrong<br>56:6 75:12   | 65:17 80:7 116:19     |\n| 88:9 90:4,13         | 150:11,13 151:21    | 164:22                | 116:21,23 117:1,3     |\n| 92:15 94:19 95:20    | 152:25 157:2,17     | wrongdoing            | 136:3 152:1,3,4,6     |\n| 103:24 111:16,24     | 158:3 164:17        | 164:25                | 160:17 161:21,25    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31:1,15    | 212:8 214:1,5         | 15:4 17:4 18:9,11     |\n| 201:4 204:1 207:3    | 32:10 33:18 34:3    | 216:2                 | 18:15,17 23:24        |\n| 207:9,16 209:8,20    | 34:6,12 36:23       | yeah<br>11:25 13:2    | 24:2,15,18 27:6       |\n| 212:8,13,17          | 37:21 38:1 40:9     | 23:2 26:5 30:15       | 28:9 29:10,23         |\n| 214:13,16 215:2,5    | 40:18,22 41:3,17    | 49:1 54:2 67:14       | 30:4,4,11,18 31:2     |\n| 216:24               | 42:5,20 44:14       | 70:4 75:21 76:16      | 31:14,22,23 32:1,2    |\n| women's<br>101:6,9   | 45:17,21 69:2,8,9   | 81:12 86:15 93:22     | 32:3,11,13,15         |\n| 101:13               | 69:14 71:12,25      | 101:5,8 102:1         | 33:13,19 34:1,4,7     |\n| word<br>55:1 59:13   | 72:8 73:21,24       | 108:2 109:14,24       | 34:13,17,25 35:21     |\n| 90:3 109:6 120:2     | 78:23 81:3,10       | 110:11 111:9          | 36:2,24 37:21         |\n| 120:8                | 83:22 87:6 113:5    | 112:3 116:25          | 38:1,2 40:9,10,11     |\n| words<br>48:6 49:12  | 150:2 171:19        | 125:16 128:7,21       | 40:14,17,18,23,24     |\n| 49:16 51:11 58:17    | 210:1               | 136:10 141:7          | 41:2,4,7,16,18        |\n| 58:19 60:8 93:3      | works<br>76:16      | 156:15 162:16         | 42:2,6,21 43:25       |\n| 94:14 107:17         | world<br>17:14      | 166:21,21 173:20      | 44:21,25 46:1,6,14    |\n| 201:11 212:13        | 116:12 175:22       | 194:21 208:14         | 47:21 49:5,19         |\n| work<br>18:24 22:7,7 | worms<br>158:24     | year<br>18:12 41:11   | 51:24 52:14 54:20     |\n| 23:11,20,25 24:2,3   | worry<br>161:19     | 47:24 129:14,20       | 57:8 58:7 59:21       |\n| 24:17 27:5,22        | 207:1               | 129:21,22 130:3       | 65:22 68:1 69:8       |\n| 28:5 30:6,13,19      | wow<br>152:14       | 130:12 134:16,17      | 69:10,15 71:13,13     |\n| 31:17,19 32:2        | writing<br>184:13   | yearly<br>107:12      | 72:1,1,4,8 73:22      |\n| 33:12 45:18,22       | 188:5 189:10        | years<br>25:14 29:20  | 81:3,6 90:18          |\n| 46:10 58:21,22       | 190:2               | 30:3,20 36:5,6,10     | 91:16,17,19,24        |\n| 59:20 60:25 71:4     |                     | 36:11,14 41:13        | 92:9,17 93:6 95:4     |\n|                      |                     |                       |                       |\n\n**[york - zoom]**\n\n| 97:2 98:3,23<br>99:11 103:10 | z                  |\n|------------------------------|--------------------|\n| 104:6,10,13,15,22            | z<br>116:6         |\n| 104:24 109:11,13             | zero<br>21:14      |\n| 109:18 110:7,15              | zoom<br>7:16 16:22 |\n| 110:17,20,25                 |                    |\n| 111:11,17 113:2              |                    |\n| 113:21 114:12,23             |                    |\n| 115:8,12,15 117:6            |                    |\n| 117:10 118:3,8,14            |                    |\n| 119:5,18 120:12              |                    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180:5 181:5            |                    |\n| 184:10,25 185:4              |                    |\n| 186:10,15 187:4              |                    |\n| 189:1 190:19                 |                    |\n| 192:3,12 193:18              |                    |\n| 194:2 195:5,7                |                    |\n| 199:23 201:10                |                    |\n| 206:8,13 207:15              |                    |\n| 208:8 209:9                  |                    |\n| yu<br>112:23                 |                    |\n| yvette<br>7:9 20:2           |                    |\n| 107:8 194:7 209:8            |                    |\n|                              |                    |\n\nFederal Rules of Civil Procedure\n\nRule 30\n\n(e) Review By the Witness; Changes.\n\n(1) Review; Statement of Changes. On request by the deponent or a party before the deposition is completed, the deponent must be allowed 30 days after being notified by the officer that the transcript or recording is available in which: (A) to review the transcript or recording; and (B) if there are changes in form or substance, to sign a statement listing the changes and the reasons for making them.\n\n(2) Changes Indicated in the Officer's Certificate. The officer must note in the certificate prescribed by Rule 30(f)(1) whether a review was requested and, if so, must attach any changes the deponent makes during the 30-day period.\n\nDISCLAIMER: THE FOREGOING FEDERAL PROCEDURE RULES ARE PROVIDED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. THE ABOVE RULES ARE CURRENT AS OF APRIL 1, 2019. 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Veritext Legal Solutions further represents that the attached exhibits, if any, are true, correct and complete documents as submitted by the court reporter and/or attorneys in relation to this deposition and that the documents were processed in accordance with our litigation support and production standards.\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions is committed to maintaining the confidentiality of client and witness information, in accordance with the regulations promulgated under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), as amended with respect to protected health information and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, as amended, with respect to Personally Identifiable Information (PII). Physical transcripts and exhibits are managed under strict facility and personnel access controls. Electronic files of documents are stored in encrypted form and are transmitted in an encrypted fashion to authenticated parties who are permitted to access the material. 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Aronsson（劳拉·S·阿伦松），声明如下：\n\n1. 本人是一名获准在纽约州和加利福尼亚州执业的律师，并任职于 O'Melveny & Myers（奥美律师事务所），地址为 7 Times Square, New York, NY 10036，系 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（“PAX”）的律师。本人谨提交本声明，以支持 PAX 提出的驳回第 11 章案件动议，或备选地部分加入 United States Trustee（美国受托人）的动议（“驳回动议”）[ECF 183]。\n\n2. 就本程序而言，PAX 向若干方送达了证据开示请求，包括 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（“Golden Spring”）和 Lamp Capital LLC（“Lamp Capital”）。与此相关，PAX 寻求与债务人提出的关于作出临时及最终 DIP 命令的动议有关的文件和通信，该动议请求：(I) 授权债务人取得无担保、次级的破产申请后融资；(II) 安排临时及最终听证；及 (III) 准予相关救济（“DIP 动议”）[ECF No. 117]，以及代表 Kwok（郭文贵）取得的其他诉讼贷款。2\n\n3. 2022 年 3 月 29 日，PAX 向 Golden Spring 送达了文件请求，其中包括“[与] Golden Spring 为债务人作为当事人的任何诉讼提供资金有关的所有文件和通信”。3\n\n4. 同于 2022 年 3 月 29 日，PAX 向 Lamp Capital 送达了文件请求，其中包括“与 Lamp Capital 向债务人、依债务人指示或为债务人利益而进行的任何实际或拟议交易、转让、分配或让与（包括但不限于付款、贷款、利益、赠与、报酬和收入）有关的所有文件和通信”。4\n\n5. 为回应 PAX 的请求，Golden Spring 于 2022 年 4 月 8 日和 2022 年 4 月 11 日作出了披露，共计约 25 份文件。PAX 的律师审阅了 Golden Spring 所披露的全部文件，而 Golden Spring 未披露 Golden Spring 与债务人之间的任何贷款协议。\n\n6. Lamp 于 2022 年 4 月 8 日和 2022 年 5 月 9 日作出了披露，共计五页。PAX 的律师审阅了 Lamp Capital 所披露的全部文件，而 Lamp Capital 未披露 Lamp Capital 与债务人之间的任何贷款协议。\n\n7. 2022 年 4 月 12 日，PAX 就 DIP 动议对 Golden Spring 根据 Rule 30(b)(6) 指定的代表 Yanping Wang（王艳萍）进行了证言录取。在其证言录取中，Wang 女士作证称，她代表 Golden Spring 签署了占有中债务人融资贷款协议，并持有该协议。5 她还作证称，她持有关于 Golden Spring 向 Kwok 提供的、总额约为 \\$21 million 的诉讼贷款的文件和笔记。6\n\n8. 在 Wang 女士的证言录取期间，PAX 要求 Golden Spring 立即披露 Wang 女士所提及的文件，7 但 PAX 从未收到这些文件。\n\n日期：May 20, 2022 New York, NY\n\n谨此提交，\n\n/s/ Laura S. Aronsson  Laura S. Aronsson laronsson@omm.com O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP 7 Times Square New York, NY 10036 电话：(212) 728-5841\n\nPacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. 的律师\n\n5 2022 年 4 月 12 日 Golden Spring Rule 30(b)(6) 公司代表 Yanping Wang 的证言笔录（“Wang 证言笔录”），作为附件 C 附后，第 185:8-17 页；207:14-23 页。\n\n6 Wang 证言笔录第 185:8-17 页；207:14-23 页。\n\n7 Wang 证言笔录第 185:8-17 页；207:14-23 页。\n附件 A\nUNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION（美国破产法院康涅狄格区布里奇波特分院）\n\n------------------------------------------------------------ x\n\n关于：\n\nHo Wan Kwok（郭文贵），\n\n第 11 章\n\n案件编号 22-50073 (JAM)\n\n债务人。\n\n：------------------------------------------------------------ x\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）向 GOLDEN SPRING (NEW YORK) LIMITED 提出的第一份文件出示请求\n\n为回应债务人在其关于作出临时及最终 DIP 命令的动议中所寻求的救济，该动议请求：(I) 授权债务人取得无担保、次级的破产申请后融资；(II) 安排临时及最终听证；及 (III) 准予相关救济 [ECF 117]（“债务人的 DIP 动议”），Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（“PAX”）特此请求 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（“Golden Spring”）于 Friday, April 1, 2022 前出示文件（“文件请求”），并于 Thursday, March 31, 2022 前以书面方式答复或回应该请求。\n定义\n\na. “Bankruptcy Code”系指 United States Code 第 11 编。\n\nb. “Communication”系指两个或以上人士和/或实体之间的信息传递（以事实、观点、询问或其他形式）和/或任何其他通信接触，并包括但不限于：通过本定义所称任何文件等方式进行的书面接触，以及通过面对面或当面会议、电话交谈、电子邮件，以及诸如传真传送、电传、电报和视频传送等任何其他形式电子通信进行的口头接触，以及所有文件的原件、草稿、副本和所有非相同副本。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 7 页，共 280 页\n\nc. “Debtor”系指 Miles Kwok（郭文贵），又名 Kwok Ho Wan，又名 Kwok Ho，又名 Gwo Wen Gui，又名 Guo Wengui，又名 Guo Wen-Gui，又名 Wan Gue Haoyun，又名 Haoyun Guo。\n\nd. “Debtor's DIP Motion”系指债务人于 March 22, 2022 提交的关于作出临时及最终 DIP 命令的动议，该动议请求：(I) 授权债务人取得无担保、次级的破产申请后融资；(II) 安排临时及最终听证；及 (III) 准予相关救济 [ECF 117]。\n\ne. “Debtors' Proposed DIP Facility”系指债务人在其关于作出临时及最终 DIP 命令的动议中所提议的占有中债务人融资，该动议请求：(I) 授权债务人取得无担保、次级的破产申请后融资；(II) 安排临时及最终听证；及 (III) 准予相关救济 [ECF 117]。\n\nf. “Debtor's Schedules”系指债务人于 March 9, 2022 提交的破产附表 AB、C、D、EF、G、H、I 及 J [ECF 78]。\n\ng. “Debtor's Voluntary Bankruptcy Petition”系指债务人于 February 15, 2022 提交的第 11 章自愿破产申请 [ECF 1]。\n\nh. “DIP Loan Agreement”系指债务人与 Golden Spring 之间的占有中债务人信贷协议，该协议作为债务人关于作出临时及最终 DIP 命令的动议的附件 C 提交；该动议请求：(I) 授权债务人取得无担保、次级的破产申请后融资；(II) 安排临时及最终听证；及 (III) 准予相关救济 [ECF 117]。\n\ni. “Director”、“officers”、“member”、“partner”、“limited partner”或“agent”系指目前以该等身份任职的任何个人或实体，或在任何相关期间曾以该等身份任职的任何个人或实体，即使其已不再以该等身份任职。\n\nj. 本文所称“Document”系指任何性质的书面、印刷、图形或电子材料的原件、所有草稿及所有副本，包括原件中未见批注或标记的副本，包括但不限于记录、报告、备忘录、笔记、日历或日记条目、信函、信封、电报、电传、电子邮件、电子邮件讯息、计算机文件、计算机化记录、电话账单、支票、其他书面通信、讯息（包括但不限于电话交谈和会议的报告）、研究、摘要、制表、分析、印刷品、会议记录、照片、磁带、录音带、信函往来、计算机存储信息、财务报表、工作表、其他通信、合同、协议、本票、贷款协议、担保协议、保证、质押、信托契据、抵押、担保权益登记、贷款文件、其他官方文件和法律文书、日志、手册、技术发布、就业申请、协议、命令、陈述、支票、银行账户对账单、贷款账户对账单、账单、发票、收据、凭证、笔记本、数据表，以及以任何方式（包括电子或计算机方式）保存或维护的数据和记录。在原件和/或非相同副本不可得的所有情况下，“Document”一词亦指原始文件的相同副本及非相同副本的副本。\n\nk. “Document Request”系指本向 Golden Spring New York Limited 提出的第一份文件出示请求。\n\nl. “Golden Spring”或“你”系指 Golden Spring (New York) Limited。\n\nm. “Identify”系指：\n\ni. 就人士而言（按定义）：姓名、营业及居住地址、职业、职务及受雇日期；以及，如非个人，则说明实体类型及其主要营业地地址。\n\nii. 就文件而言：文件类型（信函、备忘录等）、作者或制作人的身份、撰写或制作日期、每名获寄送或交付原件或副本人士的身份、你已知或有合理理由相信目前持有、保管或控制该文件之人士的身份，以及对其主题事项的简要说明，所有内容均应具有充分具体性，以便依 Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 第 34 条请求其出示。\n\niii. 就通信而言：通信日期、通信类型（电话交谈、会议等）、通信发生地点、作出通信人士的身份、每名接收通信人士的身份、作出通信时在场的每名人士的身份，以及所讨论的主题事项。\n\niv. 就会议而言：会议日期、会议地点、获邀出席的每名人士、实际出席的每名人士，以及所讨论的主题事项。\n\nn. “Including”系指包括但不限于。\n\no. “Or”系指“and/or”，并以包含性意义使用。\n\np. “Person”包括自然人，以及公司、独资企业、有限责任公司、合伙企业、合资企业、协会、联合体、工会、政府机构和机关，以及任何及所有其他实体。\n\nq. “Petition Date”系指 February 15, 2022。\n\nr. 本文所称“Referring to”系指评论、回应、提及、包含、构成、显示、记录、描述、分析、反映、涉及、识别或讨论。\n\ns. 本文所称“Relating to”系指关于、与……有关、评论、回应、包含、构成、显示、记录、描述、分析、\n\n反映、涉及、妥协、识别、讨论或以其他方式建立与之具有合理、逻辑或因果联系的。\n\n说明\n\nt. 本文件提供请求系针对债务人关于作出临时及最终 DIP 命令的动议而提出，该命令旨在：(I) 授权债务人获得无担保、次级的申请后融资；(II) 安排临时及最终听证会；及 (III) 给予相关救济 [ECF 117]。\n\na. 对每一项单独编号的文件提供请求的每一答复，均应分别作出。不得为提供共同答复之目的而合并文件提供请求，但可通过援引对另一文件提供请求的答复来提供答复。\n\nb. 本文件提供请求具有持续性，因此，如 Golden Spring（黄金泉）获得进一步或不同的信息或文件，Golden Spring 须补充提供文件。\n\nc. 如无法完整答复某项文件提供请求，应说明原因并提供所有可获得的信息。如任何对某项请求作出响应的文件已遗失、丢弃、毁坏或以其他方式无法获得，应尽可能完整地识别该文件，包括：如文件已遗失，该文件最后已知所在地，以及最后持有、保管、接触或控制该文件的人员；或者，如该文件已被丢弃或毁坏，则说明该等行为的日期、授权该等行为的人员、实际毁坏或处置该文件的人员，以及毁坏或处置该文件的原因。\n\nd. 根据文件提供请求提供文件，必须包括 Golden Spring 以及 Golden Spring 的成员、代理人、律师、投资银行家、顾问、会计师、保险人或其他经向其询问后可向其提供文件的人员所可获得的全部文件。\n\ne. 如 Golden Spring 未持有、保管、接触或控制对某一特定文件提供请求作出响应的任何文件，Golden Spring 对该文件提供请求的答复应明确表明，其并无对该文件提供请求作出响应的任何文件，或不存在对该文件提供请求作出响应的任何文件。\n\nf. 如要求提供某一方或实体所持有的知识、信息或文件，该文件提供请求包括 Golden Spring 的成员、代理人、代表、会计师、顾问、投资银行家、雇员，以及除享有特权外其律师所拥有的任何知识、信息或文件。\n\ng. 如要求提供某一人员的姓名或身份，应说明该人员的全名、住址、营业地址、住宅电话号码和营业电话号码，并包括该人员的职务或职业，以及在任何提及该等人员的答复所涵盖的适用期间内该人员所担任的每一职位。\n\nh. 如要求提供某一文件的身份，应说明该文件的日期、作者和收件人、该文件目前所在地及保管人，并说明该文件一般内容。\n\ni. 如要求提供某一通信的身份，应识别发出该通信的人员、该通信的接收人、该通信的日期和地点，并说明该通信的一般内容。还应识别作出该通信时在场的所有人员。\n\nj. 任何词语的复数形式均包括该词语的单数形式，反之亦然。\n\nk. 任何词语的阳性形式均包括该词语的阴性形式，反之亦然。\n\nl. 过去时的使用包括现在时，现在时的使用包括过去时，以使每项请求具有涵盖性而非排他性。\n\nm. 如就任何文件提供请求主张特权，应说明所主张特权的性质、主张依据；对于文件，还应说明文件内容摘要、其所在地及保管人，以及能够接触或曾经接触该等文件的人员身份。\n\nn. 如阁下因主张特权而未提供任何文件，应列明所主张的特权、阁下为支持特权主张所依赖的事实，以及识别就其主张该等特权的所有文件。\n\no. 除非 PAX 与 Golden Spring 另有约定，文件应于 Friday, April 1, 2022，在 O'Melveny & Myers LLP（奥麦律师事务所）位于 Times Square Tower, 7 Times Square, New York, New York 10036 的办公室提供。\n\np. 除非另有说明，本文件提供请求要求提供自 February 10, 2022 起至本文件提供请求之日止的全部文件。\n\n文件提供请求\n\n1. PAX 要求 Golden Spring 于上述日期和地点，或于各方共同同意的时间和地点，提供以下全部账簿、记录、通信（包括但不限于电子邮件、短信、电子消息、邮件、传真及类似通信）及文件（无论为纸质或数字形式）：\n\na. 与 DIP 贷款协议有关的全部文件和通信。\n\nb. Golden Spring 在谈判和签署 DIP 贷款协议时所依据的全部文件。\n\nc. 与债务人的自愿破产申请有关的、与债务人或债务人的任何代理人之间的全部文件和通信。\n\nd. 与 Golden Spring 向债务人、依债务人指示或为债务人利益而作出的任何实际或拟议交易、转让、分配或让与有关的全部文件和通信（包括但不限于付款、贷款、利益、赠与、报酬和收入）。\n\ne. 与债务人向 Golden Spring 质押的任何担保权益有关的全部文件和通信。\n\nf. 与 DIP 贷款协议预期偿还来源有关的全部文件和通信。\n\ng. 与 DIP 贷款协议所得款项预期用途有关的全部文件和通信。\n\nh. 与 Golden Spring 为债务人作为一方当事人的任何诉讼提供资金有关的全部文件和通信。\n\ni. 足以识别 Golden Spring 所有权情况的文件。\n\nj. 足以识别 Golden Spring 全部雇员、高级职员和董事的文件。\n\nk. 足以识别用于为 DIP 贷款协议提供资金的任何资金来源的文件。\n\n日期：March 29, 2022　New York, New York\n\n/s/ Peter Friedman\nO'MELVENY & MYERS LLP\nPeter Friedman（彼得·弗里德曼）（pfriedman@omm.com）\nStuart Sarnoff（斯图尔特·萨诺夫）（ssarnoff@omm.com）\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, New York 10036\n电话：(212) 326-2000\n\nPacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙）的代理律师\n\n证据附件 B\n\n美国破产法院\n康涅狄格地区\n布里奇波特分院\n\nx\n关于：\n\nHo Wan Kwok（郭文贵），\n\n第 11 章\n\n案号 22-50073 (JAM)\n\n债务人。\n\nx\n\nPACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P. 向 LAMP CAPITAL LLC 提出的首次文件提供请求\n\n就 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. 提出的驳回第 11 章案件动议，或备选地，部分加入 United States Trustee（美国受托人）提出的要求作出命令、指示任命第 11 章受托人的动议 [ECF 183]（以下简称“驳回动议”），Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（“PAX”）特此请求提供文件（以下简称“文件提供请求”），并要求 Lamp Capital LLC（“Lamp Capital（蓝普资本有限责任公司）”）最迟于 Monday, May 2, 2022 以书面形式答复或回应该请求。\n\n定义\n\na. “Bankruptcy Code（破产法典）”系指《美国法典》第 11 编。\n\nb. “Chapter 11 Proceedings（第 11 章程序）”系指 In re Ho Wan Kwok, Case No. 22-50073 (Bankr. D. Conn.)。\n\nc. “Communication（通信）”系指两名或两名以上人员和／或实体之间的信息传递（以事实、观点、询问或其他形式）和／或任何其他交流接触，并应包括但不限于：以本文件所定义的任何文件等方式进行的书面接触，以及以面对面或亲自会面、电话交谈、电子邮件及任何其他形式的电子通信进行的口头接触。\n\n案号 22-50073　文件 440-26　提交日期 05/25/22　登记日期 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 17 页，共 280 页\n\n该等电子通信包括传真传输、电传、电报和视频传输，以及所有文件的原件、草稿、副本和所有非完全相同的副本。\n\nd. “Debtor（债务人）”系指 Miles Kwok（郭文贵），亦称 Kwok Ho Wan、Kwok Ho、Gwo Wen Gui、Guo Wengui、Guo Wen-Gui、Wan Gue Haoyun、Haoyun Guo。\n\ne. “Director（董事）”、“officers（高级职员）”、“member（成员）”、“partner（合伙人）”、“limited partner（有限合伙人）”或“agent（代理人）”系指目前担任该等职务的任何个人或实体，或在任何相关期间曾以该等身份任职的任何个人或实体，即使其已不再担任该等职务。\n\nf. 本文所称“Document（文件）”系指任何性质的书面、印刷、图形或电子材料的原件、所有草稿及所有副本，包括原件中不存在批注或标记的副本，包括但不限于记录、报告、备忘录、笔记、日历或日记条目、信函、信封、电报、电传、电子邮件、电子邮件信息、计算机文件、计算机化记录、电话账单、支票、其他书面通信、信息（包括但不限于电话交谈和会议记录）、研究、摘要、表格、分析、印刷材料、会议记录、照片、磁带、录音带、通信函件、计算机储存信息、财务报表、工作表、其他通信、合同、协议、本票、贷款协议、担保协议、保证、质押、信托契据、抵押、担保权益备案、贷款文件、其他正式文件和法律文书、日志、手册、技术发布、就业申请、协议、命令、声明、支票、银行账户对账单、贷款账户对账单、账单、发票、收据、凭证、笔记本、数据表，以及以任何方式保存或维护的记录，包括以电子方式或通过计算机保存或维护的记录。在原件和／或非完全相同的副本无法获得的所有情形中，“文件”一词还指原始文件的完全相同副本及非完全相同副本的副本。\n\ng. “Document Request（文件提供请求）”系指本向 Lamp Capital 提出的首次文件提供请求。\n\nh. “Identify（识别）”系指：\n\ni. 就人员（按定义）而言：姓名、营业及居住地址、职业、职位和受雇日期；如非个人，则说明实体类型及其主要营业地地址。\n\nii. 就文件而言：文件类型（信函、备忘录等）、作者或制作者身份、撰写或制作日期、原件或副本被寄送或交付给的每一人员的身份、阁下已知或有合理理由相信目前持有、保管或控制该文件的人员身份，以及对其主题事项的简要说明，所有说明均须具有足够具体性，以根据《联邦民事诉讼规则》第 34 条请求提供该文件。\n\niii. 就通信而言：通信日期、通信类型（电话交谈、会议等）、通信发生地点、作出通信的人员身份、接收通信的每一人员身份、作出通信时在场的每一人员身份，以及所讨论的主题事项。\n\niv. 就会议而言：会议日期、会议地点、受邀参加的每一人员、实际参加的每一人员，以及所讨论的主题事项。\n\ni. “Including（包括）”系指包括但不限于。\n\nj. “Lamp Capital”、“You（阁下）”和“Your（阁下的）”系指 Lamp Capital LLC 及其每一成员，\n\n董事、管理人员、雇员、代理人、代表及顾问。\n\nk. “或”系指“和/或”，并以包含性含义使用。\n\nl. “个人”包括自然人，以及公司、独资企业、有限责任公司、合伙企业、合资企业、协会、联合体、工会、政府机构及机关，以及任何和所有其他实体。\n\nm. “拟议重整计划”系指《Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）的拟议第11章计划》[ECF 197]。\n\nn. 本文所称“有关”系指关于、与之关联、评论、回应、包含、构成、展示、记录、描述、分析、反映、涉及、妥协、识别、讨论，或以其他方式建立与之合理、逻辑或因果联系。\n\no. “Sherry Netherland”系指位于 New York, New York 10022, 781 5th Avenue 的 Sherry-Netherland Hotel（谢里-内瑟兰酒店）1801单元，包括对 The Sherry-Netherland（谢里-内瑟兰）的相应股份所有权权益，以及对1801单元专有租赁协议的转让。\n\n指示\n\na. 本文件请求系为推进 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙企业）的《驳回第11章案件动议，或作为替代方案，部分加入 United States Trustee（美国受托人）关于命令指定第11章受托人的动议》[ECF 183]而提出。\n\nb. 对每一项单独编号的文件请求的每项答复均应分别列明。不得为提供共同答复之目的合并文件请求，但可通过援引对另一文件请求的答复来提供答复。\n\nc. 本文件请求具有持续性，因此如 Lamp Capital（兰普资本）获得进一步或不同的信息或文件，其须补充提供文件。\n\nd. 如无法完整答复某项文件请求，应说明原因并提供所有可得信息。如任何对某项请求有回应性的文件已经遗失、丢弃、毁坏或以其他方式无法取得，应尽可能完整地识别该文件，包括：如文件已遗失，说明文件最后已知所在地以及最后拥有、保管、接触或控制该文件的个人；或者，如文件已被丢弃或毁坏，说明该行为的日期、授权该行为的个人、实际毁坏或处置该文件的个人，以及毁坏或处置该文件的原因。\n\ne. 根据本文件请求提供文件时，必须包括 Lamp Capital 及其成员、代理人、律师、投资银行家、顾问、会计师、保险人或其他经向其询问后可向其提供文件之人所持有的一切文件。\n\nf. 如 Lamp Capital 并无其占有、保管、接触或控制之下、对某一特定文件请求有回应性的任何文件，则 Lamp Capital 对该文件请求的答复应明确表明，其并无任何对该文件请求有回应性的文件，或者不存在任何对该文件请求有回应性的文件。\n\ng. 如请求提供一方或实体所占有的知识、信息或文件，则该文件请求包括 Lamp Capital 的成员、代理人、代表、会计师、顾问、投资银行家、雇员及其律师（除非享有特权）所具有的任何知识、信息或文件。\n\nh. 如请求提供某一个人的姓名或身份，应说明该个人的全名、家庭地址、营业地址、家庭电话号码和营业电话号码，并包括该个人的职务或职业，以及该个人在任何提及该等人员的答复所涵盖的适用期间内担任的每一职位。\n\ni. 如请求提供文件的身份，应说明文件日期、作者和收件人、该文件目前所在地及保管人，并概述该文件的一般内容。\n\nj. 如请求提供通信的身份，应识别生成该通信的个人、该通信的接收人、通信日期和地点，并概述该通信的一般内容。还应识别作出通信时在场的所有人员。\n\nk. 任何词语的复数形式均包括该词语的单数形式，反之亦然。\n\nl. 任何词语的阳性形式均包括该词语的阴性形式，反之亦然。\n\nm. 过去时的使用包括现在时，现在时的使用包括过去时，以使每一请求具有包含性而非排他性。\n\nn. 如就任何文件请求主张特权，应说明所主张特权的性质、主张依据；就文件而言，还应说明文件内容摘要、其所在地及保管人，以及有权接触或曾经接触该等文件的人员身份。\n\no. 如因主张特权而未提供任何文件，应列明所主张的特权、为支持特权主张所依据的事实，并识别就该等文件主张此类特权的所有文件。\n\np. 除非 PAX 与 Lamp Capital 另有约定，文件应于 May 2, 2022 at 12:00pm 在 O'Melveny & Myers LLP（奥麦利文尼与迈尔斯律师事务所）位于 Times Square Tower, 7 Times Square, New York, New York 10036 的办公室提供。\n\nq. 除非另有说明，本文件请求寻求自 January 1, 2014 至本文件请求日期的所有文件。\n\n文件提供请求\n\n1. PAX 要求 Lamp Capital 于上述日期及地点，或于双方共同商定的时间及地点，提供以下所有账簿、记录、通信（包括但不限于电子邮件、短信、电子消息、邮件、传真及类似通信）和文件（无论为纸质或电子形式）：\n\na. 足以识别 Lamp Capital 所有权的文件。\n\nb. 与 Lamp Capital 初始注资有关的所有文件和通信。\n\nc. 与自 January 1, 2015 至今就 Sherry Netherland 作出的任何付款有关的所有文件和通信。\n\nd. 与 Lamp Capital 向债务人、依债务人指示或为债务人利益而作出或拟作出的任何交易、转让、分配或让与（包括但不限于付款、贷款、利益、赠与、报酬及收入）有关的所有文件和通信。\n\ne. Lamp Capital 与债务人之间有关拟议重整计划的所有通信。\n\n日期：April 27, 2022，New York, New York\n\n/s/ Peter Friedman（彼得·弗里德曼）\nO'MELVENY & MYERS LLP\nPeter Friedman（彼得·弗里德曼）(pfriedman@omm.com)\nStuart Sarnoff（斯图尔特·萨诺夫）(ssarnoff@omm.com)\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, New York 10036\n电话：(212) 326-2000\n\nPacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. 的律师\n\n证物C\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 26 of\n\n美国康涅狄格联邦破产法院\n\n康涅狄格地区\n\n布里奇波特分庭\n\n______________\n\n关于：\n\nHo Wan Kwok（郭文贵），\n债务人。\n\n案号\n22-50073-(JAM)\n\n远程录像证言记录\n\n（30(b)(6)公司代表）\n\nYAN PING WANG（王燕平）\n\nTuesday, April 12, 2022\n\nNew York, New York\n\n记录员：\nB. Suzanne Hull（B. 苏珊·赫尔），CSR No. 13495\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 27 of\n\n出庭人员\n\n代表债务人 Ho Wan Kwok：\nBrown Rudnick（布朗·拉德尼克律师事务所）\n代理律师\nMR. BENNETT S. SILVERBERG（本内特 S. 西尔弗伯格）\nMR. KENNETH AULET（肯尼斯·奥莱特）\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, New York 10036\n(212) 209-4924\n(212) 209-4950\nbsilverberg@brownrudnick.com\nkaulet@brownrudnick.com\n\n代表债权人 Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund, L.P.：\nO'Melveny & Myers\n代理律师\nMR. DAVID V. HARBACH II（大卫 V. 哈巴赫二世）\n1625 Eye Street NW\nWashington, DC 20006\n(202) 383-5127\ndharbach@omm.com\n\n以及\n\n代理律师\nMR. STUART M. SARNOFF（斯图尔特 M. 萨诺夫）\nMS. AISLING MURRAY（艾斯琳·默里）\nTimes Square Tower\n7 Times Square\nNew York, New York 10036\n(212) 326-2293\n(212) 728-5831\nssarnoff@omm.com\namurray@omm.com\n\n代表债权人 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（黄金泉〈纽约〉有限公司）：\nCohn Birnbaum Shea（科恩·伯恩鲍姆·谢伊律师事务所）\n代理律师\nMR. SCOTT D. ROSEN（斯科特 D. 罗森）\n100 Pearl Street\nHartford, Connecticut 06103\n(860) 493-2220\nsrosen@cbshealaw.com\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 28 of\n\n出庭人员（续）\n\n代表 United States Trustee：\nUnited States Department of Justice（美国司法部）\n代理律师\nMS. HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN（霍莉 L. 克莱伯恩）\n1100 L Street NW Room 12210\nWashington, DC 20005\n(202) 514-2000\nholley.l.claiborn@usdoj.gov\n\n代表有担保债权人委员会：\nPullman & Comley（普尔曼与科姆利律师事务所）\n代理律师\nMR. JONATHAN KAPLAN（乔纳森·卡普兰）\n90 State House Square\nHartford, Connecticut 06103\n(860) 424-4379\njkaplan@pullcom.com\n\n录像员：Jeffrey Nichols（杰弗里·尼科尔斯）\n\n口译员：Sunny Johnston（桑尼·约翰斯顿）（普通话）\n\n核对口译员：Una Wilkinson（尤娜·威尔金森）（普通话）\n\n另有在场者：Makenzie Russo（麦肯齐·鲁索）\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 29 of 280\n\n索引\n\n询问人　页码\n\nMR. HARBACH　10\n\n证物\n\n证物　说明　页码\n\n证物1——Yan Ping Wang 的证言记录，于 October 11, 2018 录取，共四十二页　19\n\n证物2——审判记录，日期为 April 26, 2019，共一百二十五页　28\n\n证物3——Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的董事及高级管理人员名册，Delaware Corporation（特拉华州公司），共三页　43\n\n证物4——Yan Ping Wang 的宣誓书，日期为 November 14, 2013，共三页　55\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 30 of\n\n证物（续）\n\n证物　说明　页码\n\n证物5——证物B，Golden Spring (New York) 的 Delaware certificate of incorporation（特拉华州公司注册证书）及 certificate of revival（恢复资格证书），日期为 March 10, 2015，共五页　166\n\n证物6——Pacific Alliance Asia Opportunity Fund L.P. 根据 Federal Rules of Civil Procedure（联邦民事诉讼规则）Rule 30(b)(6) 发出的关于 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的证言录取通知，日期为 March 29, 2022，共七页　209\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 31 of 280\n\n被指示不予回答的问题：\n\n第36页　第18行\n\n第37页　第25行\n\n第41页　第16行\n\n第65页　第9行\n\n第126页　第20行\n\n第128页　第18行\n\n第130页　第2行\n\n第150页　第5行\n\n第157页　第17行\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 32 of\n\nNew York, New York\n\nTuesday, April 12, 2022；9:15 a.m.\n\n162 East 64th Street\n\n录像员：\n早上好。\n\n我们现于 April 12th, 2022 9:15 a.m. 开始记录。　09:15:21\n\n09:15:25\n\n这是针对 Golden Spring (New York) 的30(b)(6)证人 Yvette Wang（王燕平）的录像证言录取的第一媒体单元，由债权人 Pacific Alliance 在提交于美国康涅狄格联邦破产法院布里奇波特分庭的 In Re: Ho Wan Kwok 一案中进行。　09:15:27\n\n09:15:31\n\n09:15:37\n\n09:15:39\n\n09:15:42\n\n案号为 22-50073 (JAM)。　09:15:47\n\n09:15:49\n\n本次证言录取通过 Zoom 以远程方式举行。　09:15:50\n\n09:15:57\n\n我叫 Jeff Nichols，来自 Veritext Legal Solutions（威锐文本法律解决方案公司），我是录像员。　09:15:57\n\n09:15:59\n\n法庭记录员是 Suzanne Hull（苏珊·赫尔），来自 Veritext Legal Solutions。　09:16:02\n\n09:16:06\n\n现在请各位律师为记录说明其出庭身份及所属机构。　09:16:07\n\n09:16:10\n\nMR. HARBACH：\n早上好。　09:16:14\n\n我是 O'Melveny & Myers 的 David Harbach，我代表 Pacific Alliance。　09:16:15\n\n09:16:19\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 33 of\n\nMR. ROSEN：\n早上好。　09:16:24\n\n2　Scott Rosen（斯科特·罗森），Cohn Birnbaum & Shea（科恩、伯恩鲍姆与谢伊律师事务所），　09:16:24\n3　代表 Golden Spring (New York)（金泉〔纽约〕）。　09:16:28\n4　KAPLAN 先生：\nJonathan Kaplan（乔纳森·卡普兰），　09:16:36\n5　Pullman & Comley（普尔曼与康利律师事务所），代表无担保债权人委员会　09:16:36\n6　。　09:16:40\n7　AULET 先生：\nKenneth Aulet（肯尼斯·奥莱特），Brown Rudnick（布朗·拉德尼克律师事务所），　09:16:40\n8　代表债务人 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）。　09:16:43\n9　SILVERBERG 先生：\nBennett Silverberg（班尼特·西尔弗伯格），　09:16:46\n10　Brown Rudnick（布朗·拉德尼克律师事务所），代表债务人。　09:16:49\n11　RUSSO 女士：\nMakenzie Russo（麦肯齐·鲁索），就职于　09:16:52\n12　O'Melveny & Myers（欧麦伦律师事务所），代表 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）。　09:16:56\n13　SARNOFF 先生：\nStuart Sarnoff（斯图尔特·萨诺夫），　09:16:57\n14　Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）。　09:17:02\n15　CLAIBORN 女士：\n我是 Holley Claiborn（霍莉·克莱伯恩），代表　09:17:02\n16　U.S. Trustee（美国受托人）。　09:17:04\n17　录像员：\n谢谢。　09:17:05\n18　请法庭记录员为两名　09:17:06\n19　口译员及证人宣誓。　09:17:09\n20　记录员：\n请举起右手，　09:17:14\n21　。　09:17:15\n\n23　SUNNY JOHNSTON（桑尼·约翰斯顿），\n24　经传唤担任口译员，将\n25　英语译为普通话并将普通话译为英语，已\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 34 页（共）\n\n3　09:17:20\n\n4　口译员：是，我宣誓。　09:17:20\n\n5　记录员：请举起右手，　09:17:25\n\n6　请，复核口译员。　09:17:27\n\n1　经正式宣誓，将尽其所能口译本程序\n\n9　经传唤担任口译员，将\n\n10　英语译为普通话并将普通话译为英语，已\n\n11　经正式宣誓，将尽其所能口译本程序\n\n12　，并作如下口译：\n\n2　，并作如下口译：\n\n8　UNA WILKINSON（乌娜·威尔金森），\n14　复核口译员：是，我宣誓。　09:17:42\n\n15　记录员：请举起右手，16　证人。18　YAN PING WANG（王燕平），19　由债权人 Pacific Alliance Asia 20　Opportunity Fund, L.P.（太平洋联盟亚洲机会基金有限合伙）律师指定为 30(b)(6) 公司代表，21　经首先正式宣誓后，22　作证如下：23　09:17:59 24　证人：是。　09:17:59 25　记录员：好的。请说明资质，　09:18:02\n\n13　09:17:42\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 35 页（共）\n\n1　。　09:18:06\n\n2　口译员：是。　09:18:08\n\n3　大家早上好。　09:18:09\n4　法院认证普通话口译员，　09:18:10\n5　加利福尼亚州认证口译员　09:18:13\n6　Sunny Johnston（桑尼·约翰斯顿）。认证编号为 301314。　09:18:14\n7　记录员：复核口译员，　09:18:18\n8　请说明资质。　09:18:22\n9　复核口译员：我是普通话和英语的复核　09:18:25\n10　口译员，并且　09:18:26\n11　是纽约州统一法院系统的法院认证　09:18:29\n12　口译员。　09:18:33\n13　记录员：谢谢。　09:18:36\n\n14　录像员：\n谢谢。　09:18:37\n\n15　律师，您可以开始。　09:18:37\n16　09:18:37\n17　询问　09:18:40\n18　由 HARBACH 先生进行：　09:18:40\n\n19　问：王女士，早上好。　09:18:41\n20　正如您刚才所听到的，我叫 David Harbach（大卫·哈巴赫）。　09:18:44\n21　在我们　09:18:50\n22　开始之前，先处理几项程序性事项。　09:18:53\n23　您能听到——您能清楚地听到　09:18:54\n24　我吗？　09:18:55\n\n25　答：是。　09:19:09\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 36 页（共）\n\n1　我能清楚地听到您。　09:19:10\n\n2　问：\n我知道您过去曾以英语接受过　09:19:12\n3　证言录取。　09:19:15\n4　您今天是否愿意以　09:19:18\n5　英语进行？　09:19:21\n6　答：\n好的。我的母语不是英语，但　09:19:37\n7　我可以尝试以英语完成证言录取；　09:19:54\n8　不过，若有任何内容我不理解，我需要口译员在旁　09:19:57\n9　协助。　09:20:00\n10　问：\n这——这听起来很好，对我们　09:20:02\n11　完全没问题；因此我们可以用英语进行。而且　09:20:05\n12　如果您有问题，或者希望将问题　09:20:10\n13　译成普通话，或者希望将　09:20:13\n14　回答译成普通话，请直接提出，　09:20:20\n15　Johnston 女士可以协助。　09:20:24\n16　您是否接受？　09:20:27\n17　答：\n好的。是。　09:20:30\n18　谢谢。　09:20:52\n19　问：\n好的。很好。　09:20:52\n20　还有几件事。由于我们　09:20:56\n21　正在远程进行此次证言录取，因此对　09:20:59\n22　法庭记录员而言，一次只能有一个人　09:21:03\n23　发言非常重要。　09:21:08\n24　您明白吗？　09:21:09\n25　答：\n（英语）是，我明白。是的。　09:21:12\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions（威瑞泰克法律解决方案）866 299-5127\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 37 页（共）\n\n1　问：好的。很好。　09:21:13\n\n2　因此，请您在　09:21:18\n\n3　我问完问题后再开始回答，并且　09:21:21\n\n4　我会尽力在您停止说话后　09:21:24\n\n5　再问下一个问题。　09:21:28\n\n6　好吗？　09:21:30\n\n7　答：是，先生。　09:21:31\n\n8　谢谢。　09:21:33\n9　问：好的。很好。　09:21:33\n10　如我刚才所说，如果有　09:21:35\n\n11　您不理解的问题，请告诉我，我很乐意尝试换一种说法。　09:21:40 12　如果有您希望为便于回答而　09:21:43 13　翻译的问题，　09:21:48 14　也没有问题。　09:21:52 15　这正是 Johnston 女士在此的原因。　09:21:56 16　好吗？　09:21:59 17　答：是，先生。　09:22:00 18　谢谢。　09:22:02 19　问：好的。您是否正在服用任何药物，或者——　09:22:02 20　ROSEN 先生：律师，在开始之前，　09:22:11 21　关于异议和签署的约定。　09:22:13 22　您的偏好是什么？　09:22:18 23　HARBACH 先生：Scott，我不确定我是否明白，　09:22:20 24　你的意思。　09:22:22 25　ROSEN 先生：通常的约定？除形式异议外，所有　09:22:24 第 12 页\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 38 页（共）\n\n1　异议均保留至审判时提出？　09:22:27\n\n2　HARBACH 先生：是。对此我没有问题。　09:22:32\n3　ROSEN 先生：好的。证人不会　09:22:36\n4　放弃签署和阅览笔录的权利。　09:22:38\n5　HARBACH 先生：Scott，我没听见你说什么。　09:22:42\n6　请你大声一点好吗？　09:22:44\n7　ROSEN 先生：好的。　09:22:46\n8　证人不会放弃签署和　09:22:46\n9　阅览笔录的权利。　09:22:49\n10　HARBACH 先生：好的。明白。　09:22:50\n11　由 HARBACH 先生进行：　09:22:58\n12　问：\n王女士，我刚才正要问您，您是否　09:22:58\n13　正在服用任何药物，或受到　09:23:01\n14　任何——任何可能损害您记忆力或　09:23:05\n15　妨碍您如实回答问题的事物的影响　09:23:09\n16　。　09:23:12\n17　答：\n没有。　09:23:15\n18　问：\n您能想到任何原因，使您　09:23:17\n19　今天不能提供如实证言吗？　09:23:20\n20　答：\n先生，我认为没有任何原因。　09:23:24\n21　问：\n好的。很好。　09:23:29\n22　我相信您此前至少曾于 2018 年 10 月　09:23:30\n23　就涉及 PAX 的诉讼接受过一次　09:23:37\n24　证言录取。　09:23:44\n25　您记得那次证言录取吗？　09:23:46\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 39 页（共）\n\n1　答：\n我记得我以前接受过证言录取，但我不　09:23:48\n\n2　记得——日期——确切日期。　09:23:56\n3　问：\n明白。　09:23:59\n4　除 PAX 对您进行询问的那次证言录取外，　09:24:00\n5　此后您是否在其他　09:24:09\n6　诉讼中接受过证言录取？　09:24:13\n7　答：\n先生，自——自那以后？您是指　09:24:15\n8　从什么时候起？　09:24:19\n9　问：\n我向您说明，　09:24:20\n10　PAX 对您进行的证言录取是在 2018 年　09:24:23\n11　10 月。　09:24:26\n12　我的问题是，此后您是否接受过　09:24:30\n13　证言录取？　09:24:33\n14　答：\n我相信接受过。　09:24:34\n15　问：\n您记得是在何时吗？　09:24:37\n16　答：\n我不记得。　09:24:44\n17　问：\n在哪一程序中？　09:24:45\n18　答：\n是在一个名为 Strategic Vision（战略愿景）　09:24:49\n19　、Eastern Profits（东方利润）——或者 Eastern Profits、Strategic　09:24:57\n20　Vision 的案件中。应当是同一案件。　09:25:02\n21　问：\n好的。您是否知道，该案件在哪个　09:25:04\n22　法院审理？　09:25:07\n23　答：\n纽约的一家法院。　09:25:08\n24　问：\n好的。除那一次外，自 2018 年 10 月以来还有其他　09:25:11\n25　证言录取吗？　09:25:20\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 40 页（共）\n\n1　答：\n嗯。没有。　09:25:25\n\n2　问：\n您是否明白，您今天在此是作为 Golden Spring　09:25:27\n3　（New York）的　09:25:35\n4　公司代表？　09:25:40\n5　答：\n是，我明白。　09:25:40\n6　问：\n在您今天作证之前，您是否审阅了载于　09:25:42\n7　证言录取通知中的、我们今天拟与您讨论的　09:25:48\n8　议题？　09:25:55\n9　答：\n是。　09:25:55\n10　我审阅了这些议题。　09:25:59\n11　问：\n好的。一般而言，您为——抱歉——为今天的　09:26:01\n12　证言录取做了哪些　09:26:05\n13　准备？　09:26:08\n14　答：\n我与我们的律师事务所——与我们的　09:26:09\n15　律师一起进行了准备。　09:26:15\n16　问：\n好的。您是否审阅了文件？　09:26:16\n17　答：\n是。　09:26:21\n18　我审阅了文件。　09:26:22\n19　问：\n您是否与 Golden Spring 的其他人员会面，　09:26:24\n20　以准备您今天的证言录取？　09:26:29\n21　答：\n会面——抱歉。　09:26:32\n22　您是什么意思？您是指亲自会面吗？　09:26:38\n23　您所说的会面是什么意思？　09:26:41\n24　问：\n刚才您说，律师事务所　09:26:43\n25　协助您为今天做准备。　09:26:49\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 41 页（共 280）\n\n1　答：\n对。　09:26:51\n\n2　问：\n您是否亲自与他们会面以进行该　09:26:52\n3　准备？　09:26:56\n4　答：\n没有。　09:26:57\n5　由于 COVID，我通过——通过　09:26:59\n6　视频通话与我们的律师会面。　09:27:07\n7　问：\n谢谢。　09:27:08\n8　除 Golden Spring 的人员外，您是否还与其他任何人　09:27:08\n9　通过电话、视频会议　09:27:11\n10　或其他方式沟通，以准备今天的证言录取？　09:27:17\n11　ROSEN 先生：\n异议。　09:27:24\n12　证人可以作答，但不得披露　09:27:25\n13　与内部律师或　09:27:28\n14　外部律师的任何谈话。　09:27:32\n15　证人：\n先生，抱歉。　09:27:36\n16　您能重复一下您的问题吗？　09:27:37\n17　由 HARBACH 先生进行：　09:27:40\n18　问：\n可以。　09:27:41\n19　这是一个不要求披露任何——任何　09:27:41\n20　受特权保护信息的是非问题。　09:27:43\n21　问题是，您是否与 Golden Spring 的任何　09:27:46\n22　人员——通过电话、Zoom、　09:27:50\n23　视频会议或其他方式——沟通，以准备您的　09:27:57\n24　今天的证言录取？　09:28:01\n25　答：\n是，沟通过。　09:28:01\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入 第 42 页（共）\n\n1　问：\n您与 Golden Spring 的谁沟通，　09:28:05\n\n2　以准备您今天的证言录取？　09:28:08\n3　答：\n我与　09:28:11\n4　Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）的所有人 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生沟通过。请　09:28:18\n5　让我拼写一下：Q-i-a-n-g，姓氏 G-u-o。　09:28:25\n6　问：\n您与他沟通花了多少时间？　09:28:32\n7　　09:28:37\n8　答：\n多少时间？大概十、十五——大约，　09:28:38\n9　大概十五分钟——十、十五分钟。　09:28:49\n10　问：\n您是否与 Golden Spring 的其他任何人　09:28:52\n11　沟通，以准备今天的　09:28:55\n12　证言录取？　09:28:57\n13　答：\n没有。　09:28:57\n14　问：\n除律师外，您是否与世界上其他任何人　09:28:58\n15　沟通，以准备　09:29:01\n16　今天的证言录取？　09:29:05\n17　答：\n没有。　09:29:07\n18　问：\n姓名是——撤回。　09:29:09\n19　刚才，当您说您与　09:29:26\n20　律师一起为今天的证言录取做准备时，是哪一家或哪些律师事务所的　09:29:29\n21　律师？　09:29:35\n22　答：\nScott Rosen 先生所在律师事务所的律师。　09:29:37\n\n10 问：在 Golden Spring（金泉）是否还有其他人为准备今天的证言录取而与您沟通过？09:28:52\n\n答：没有。09:28:57\n\n问：除律师外，世界上是否还有其他人为准备今天的证言录取而与您沟通过？09:28:58\n\n答：没有。09:29:07\n\n问：姓名是——撤回。09:29:09 片刻前，您说曾与律师会面以准备今天的证言录取，这些律师来自哪一家或哪些律师事务所？09:29:26\n\n答：来自 Scott Rosen（斯科特·罗森）先生所在律师事务所的律师。09:29:37 我不会读他律师事务所的名称。应当是——我的意思是，对我来说，他律师事务所的名称很难读；所以是 Scott Rosen 先生和他的同事 Timothy——Tim。09:29:45\n\n问：Tim Miltenberger（蒂姆·米尔滕伯格）？09:30:01\n\n答：我相信是。我不记得他的姓氏。听起来是对的。09:30:05\n\n问：好的。您是否曾为准备今天的证言录取，与 Brown Rudnick（布朗·鲁德尼克）律师事务所的任何律师会面或咨询？09:30:09\n\n答：没有。09:30:24\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）何时成立？09:30:27\n\n答：Golden Spring (New York) Limited 于2015年成立。09:30:40\n\n问：2015年3月听起来大致正确吗？09:30:47\n\n答：是，3月。09:30:54\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) 与 Golden Spring (Hong Kong)（金泉〔香港〕）之间是什么关系？09:30:59\n\n答：Golden Spring (New York) Limited 由 China Golden Spring (Hong Kong)（中国金泉〔香港〕）100 percent持有。09:31:09\n\n问：为今天证言录取之目的，我将把 China Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 简称为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong)。这样可以吗？09:31:21\n\n答：可以。09:31:37\n\n问：您是否曾在 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作？09:31:39\n\n答：是。09:31:49\n\n问：您记得您何时在那里工作吗？09:31:50\n\n答：那是在2016年，大概几个月。09:31:53\n\n问：好的。我想向您出示我将标记为证物1的文件。09:32:07\n\n（证言录取证物编号1已标记以供识别。）09:32:29\n\nHARBACH（哈巴赫）先生：我们稍等片刻，让我的同事把它放进去。各位请稍候。很快就会出现。09:32:32 对延误表示抱歉。我们正在处理。似乎有点慢。现在正在上传。09:33:17\n\nRusso（鲁索）女士告诉我它应当已经在那里了，但我在已标记证物文件夹中看不到它。还有其他人看得到吗？09:34:30\n\nKAPLAN（卡普兰）先生：有——有两个文件夹。看起来它在第二个文件夹里。09:34:42\n\nHARBACH先生：好的。找到了。09:34:57\n\nROSEN先生：律师——09:34:59\n\nHARBACH先生：似乎——09:35:00\n\nROSEN先生：——在我们——之前——09:35:00\n\nHARBACH先生：在我的电脑上似乎就是这样。它在第二个、写有 Yvette Wang（伊薇特·王）证言录取的第二个文件夹里。09:35:02\n\nROSEN先生：律师，在您继续提问之前，能否请您向我说明，该文件涉及30(b)(6)事项中的哪一项？09:35:11\n\nHARBACH先生：嗯，它可能——可能涉及其中若干项，因为该文件是她先前证言录取的记录；因此将涉及多个此类事项。09:35:23\n\nROSEN先生：如其超出30(b)(6)的范围，我保留提出异议并指示证人不得回答的权利。但请继续进行。09:35:36\n\nHARBACH先生：明白。09:35:46 在我继续之前，是否有人在其已标记证物文件夹中看不到该证物？09:35:49\n\nHARBACH先生提问：09:35:59\n\n问：好的。王女士，您能看见吗？09:36:00\n\n答：先生，我能看见一个 .pd-——上面写着有四十二页的 .pdf 文件。09:36:03\n\n问：您找到了吗？09:36:09\n\n答：是这个吗？找到了。好的。09:36:11\n\n问：是的，女士。请打开那个文件。09:36:13\n\n答：（证人照做。）09:36:18 是。09:36:18\n\n问：那么，在我继续之前，为了唤起您的记忆，我向您提出的问题涉及您在 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作的日期。我相信您说大约是2016年。我只是想向您展示，在2018年的证言录取中，您曾被问及此事。让我读一下您当时所说的话，然后再次提问。09:36:19 因此，我——我能否请您看一下记录的第三十页。09:36:52\n\n答：（证人照做。）09:37:00\n\n问：您找到后请告诉我。09:37:02\n\n答：第三十页，三、零，先生；对吗？09:37:09\n\n问：是的，女士。没错。那是——您知道，是缩印页面中的第三十页。您看到每一张缩印页面都有页码吗？09:37:15\n\n答：我在第三十页。您所说的缩印页面是什么意思？我不明白。09:37:30\n\n问：嗯，每一张——当然。刚刚发送给您的文件中，每一页都有四页记录。09:37:39\n\n您看到了吗？09:37:47\n\n答：看到了。09:37:48\n\n问：好的。所以，那些就是我所指的页码。在第三十页第十行，您被问到一个问题，内容为：09:37:48\n\n“问题：那么，您于2015年搬到香港，并于2015年9月开始为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作？”09:38:05\n\n您的回答是：09:38:18\n\n“回答：是。”09:38:19\n\n您在那里看到了吗？09:38:21\n\n答：先生，哪一页？是第三十页，但有四个——四个小页码。09:38:23\n\n问：就——09:38:31\n\n答：我不确定是哪一个。09:38:32\n\n问：对。09:38:34\n\n答：是第113页还是14、15或16页？您说的是哪一个？09:38:35\n\n问：我明白。我明白您的困惑。当我提到这份记录的页码时，我只是在说那些小页面——小页面的页码。09:38:41\n\n答：哦。09:38:53\n\n问：好的？我知道这很容易混淆。抱歉。09:38:54\n\n答：好的。我回去找一下。09:38:59\n\n问：好的。回到小页面的第三十页。09:39:01\n\n答：（证人照做。）09:39:06 是。我现在在小页面的第三十页。09:39:14\n\n问：好的。是的。对造成的混淆表示抱歉。那么请看第三十页第十行，您会看到那里有一个关于您何时搬到香港为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作的问题。您看到了吗？09:39:17\n\n答：看到了。09:39:35 我看到了。09:39:53\n\n问：好的。那么我想问您的是——首先，我们只关注日期。好吗？读过这段内容后，这是否影响您对于何时开始为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作的判断？09:39:55\n\n答：我对这一页的回答，我的意思是，是的。我于2015年搬到香港，然后在那里工作。我也曾往返——在美国。但如果您有我完整的 Golden Spring (New York) 公司记录，我正式开始在 Golden Spring 工作是在2018年，我相信；所以在此之前，我不认为我为 Golden Spring (New York) 工作。技术上说，我为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作，并且——包括2016年的那段时间，当时我回去，因为2015——2016年我回去了。2016年，对我而言是在香港居住的较为连续的一段时间；所以除此之外，我往返于香港和美国之间。09:40:16\n\n问：好的。我想我理解您的意思，但我想确认一下。大约在2015年，您开始为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作，并一直为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作到2018年的某个时候，届时您开始为 Golden Spring (New York) 工作。我的理解正确吗？09:41:22\n\n答：我从2018年起正式开始为 Golden Spring (New York) 工作，是的。您在这一点上是正确的。09:41:53\n\n问：好的。在此之前，您为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作，对吗？09:42:04\n\n答：我相信这更像是混合的，因为我为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作，同时我也为 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生在中国的家族企业工作；所以这就是我提到我在2016年在香港的原因。正如我所说，那是我——离开香港并在香港——为香港工作的一个连续时间段。那是我的——那是我的陈述。09:42:14\n\n问：您当时为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作时，您人在香港吗？09:42:51\n\n答：并不总是。09:43:03\n\n问：好的。您何时搬到美国？09:43:05\n\n答：先生，您所说的“搬”是什么意思？09:43:11\n\n问：您第一次何时来到美国？这样问如何？09:43:17\n\n答：那是很多年前。09:43:26\n\n问：您在为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作期间来到美国吗？09:43:28\n\n答：是。在我为 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) 工作期间，我也曾前往美国。09:43:37\n\n问：好的。是什么时候？09:43:47\n\n答：哦，我记不起来了。应当是在2015年至2017年或2018年之间。我记不起来了。09:43:49\n\n问：您在该期间来到美国时，您是否返回中国？09:44:07\n\nROSEN先生：异议。律师，您能否——09:44:15\n\n2　请向我说明，这与30(b)(6)中的30个主题中的哪一个有关，并就您接下来要问什么作些解释。　09:44:18\n\n5　HARBACH先生：\n好的。当然可以。　09:44:26\n\n6　我实际上只是想了解该证人与其所代表公司的关联这一基本背景情况。这非常基础。我想弄清楚她何时、何地以及为谁工作。仅此而已。这有助于说明她作为30(b)(6)证人的资格，并为她之后的证言提供背景。　09:44:26\n\n13　ROSEN先生：\n我——坦白说，我看不出她的旅行计划与此有任何关系。　09:44:49\n\n15　此时，我将指示证人不要回答有关其旅行及其在不同时期身处何地的问题。如果您想询问她的具体职责、她履行了什么职责以及何时履行，我对此不持异议。　09:44:56\n\n21　HARBACH先生：\n而且您——您将对任何关于她履行这些职责时实际所在地的问题提出异议？我的理解是否正确？　09:45:12\n\n25　ROSEN先生：\n您——您的问题远远超出了这个范围。如果您想问她具体职责以及她当时在哪里，那么我们可以在该问题出现时予以处理。但您是在询问一般旅行计划。您是在询问她——她为其他公司所做的工作。她是Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉公司）的30(b)(6)证人，问题应当针对该公司提出。　09:45:20\n\n8　由HARBACH先生询问：　09:45:44\n\n9　问：王女士，您为Golden Spring (Hong Kong)（香港金泉公司）工作时，实际身处何地？　09:45:45\n\n11　答：您所说的“实际身处何地”是什么意思？我的意思是，比如住在酒店还是住——我的意思是，我不明白，先生。　09:45:55\n\n14　问：您为Golden Spring (Hong Kong)工作时身处哪个国家？　09:46:04\n\n16　答：我在香港，我还——我在美国旅行过。我在英国旅行过。我的意思是，我仍然不明白您所说的“实际身处何地”是什么意思，但那些是我去过的地方。　09:46:10\n\n20　问：好的。后来您是否曾为了工作而永久搬到美国？　09:46:24\n\n23　答：先生，您所说的“永久”是什么意思？　09:46:35\n\n24　问：您搬家了吗？　09:46:38\n\n25　答：永久——　09:46:40\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 52 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：您搬家了吗？您知道我所说的“搬家”是什么意思吗？　09:46:42\n\n3　答：是。　09:46:47\n\n4　问：好的。后来您是否曾为了工作而搬到美国？　09:46:48\n\n6　答：是。　09:46:59\n\n7　问：那是什么时候？　09:47:00\n\n8　答：那是从我成为Golden Spring (New York)的高级职员和董事时开始的。　09:47:01\n\n10　问：那是在什么时候？　09:47:11\n\n11　答：是在2018年初、2017年末。我记不清了。应该是2018年初。　09:47:17\n\n13　问：好的。我将向您出示另一份文件。　09:47:29\n\n15　HARBACH先生：\n我们将把这份文件编号为二。　09:47:38\n\n17　（证言记录证物二已标记以供识别。）　09:47:41\n\n19　由HARBACH先生询问：　09:48:39\n\n20　问：王女士，您看到文件夹中的证物二了吗？　09:48:40\n\n22　答：看到了。　09:48:44\n\n23　问：好的。它也应当是一份.pdf文件。请打开它。　09:48:46\n\n25　答：（证人照办。）　09:48:52\n\n第 28 页\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 54 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：是的，我看到了。　09:48:54\n\n2　问：好的。现在，对于这一份，我要请您翻到第——好的——四十九页。　09:48:55\n\n4　答：（证人照办。）　09:49:14\n\n5　问：请在您翻到第四十九页时告诉我。　09:49:27\n\n6　答：是的，我翻到了。　09:49:34\n\n7　问：好的。看第五行，向您提出的问题是：　09:49:35\n\n9　“问：您何时搬到纽约，开始为郭家工作？”　09:49:41\n\n12　您的回答是：　09:49:48\n\n13　“答：那是一个我永远不会忘记的日期。那是2015年4月23日。”　09:49:50\n\n15　您在那里看到这些内容了吗？　09:49:59\n\n16　答：是的，我看到了。　09:50:01\n\n17　HARBACH先生：\n好的。这份证言记录，为了记录——更正一下。　09:50:02\n\n19　该证言，为了记录，是在2019年5月作出的，距今不足三年。　09:50:06\n\n21　由HARBACH先生询问：　09:50:15\n\n22　问：那么，您于2015年4月搬到纽约开始为郭家工作，这是否准确？　09:50:16\n\n25　答：如我所说，英语不是我的母语。当您说“搬家”时，我的意思是，我现在比两、三——三、四年前理解得更好，而那是正确的。我离开了中国。我来到纽约——我先来到纽约。然后我回到香港。　09:50:26\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 55 页，共 280 页\n\n6　因此，关于为郭家工作，我一直将其称为我的——我的老板——即Golden Spring的所有人，Qiang Guo（郭强）先生——Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o——那就是同一个郭家。　09:50:50\n\n10　问：那么，您是否于2015年4月在纽约开始为郭家工作？这是正确还是不正确？　09:51:09\n\n13　答：我从2000——2008年末开始为郭家工作。也就是说，比如——　09:51:33\n\n15　问：是的。让我——让我打断一下，并再次提出我的问题，因为您可能误解了它。　09:51:43\n\n17　您是否于2015年4月在纽约开始为郭家工作？　09:51:49\n\n19　答：开始为郭家工作。我的意思是，再次，我不记得多年前这个问题了。如我所说——　09:52:00\n\n22　问：不。您——您——您证称那是一个您永远不会忘记的日期；所以这就是我就此稍微追问您的原因。　09:52:18\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 56 页，共 280 页\n\n1　我的问题是，您何时开始在纽约为郭家工作？这里的笔录似乎表明是在2015年4月，我正在问您这是否准确。　09:52:27\n\n5　这是否准确？是否不准确？还是您不知道？　09:52:47\n\n7　答：2015年4月23日。那是我永远不会忘记的日期，因为我离开了中国。我从未——我从未能够回去。　09:52:52\n\n10　好吗？　09:53:06\n\n11　所以，那是准确的。当时我回答这个问题时，我相信当时没有口译员帮助我；所以现在读起来，这个问题似乎是问您何时搬到纽约开始为郭家工作？当时没有翻译，我并不十分理解这个问题；所以如果您问我何时开始为郭家工作，我可以告诉您，我的职业生涯从2008年开始，但我从2015年开始在中国境外为郭家工作。这是我现在正确且如实的回答。　09:53:07\n\n22　问：而那是在纽约市，对吗？　09:53:47\n\n23　答：从纽约和香港开始。　09:53:49\n\n24　问：好的。　09:53:53\n\n25　答：我的意思是，当时郭强先生同时在纽约和香港。我现在看不出这里有什么问题。我说我会在纽约和香港工作——从纽约开始，再回到香港，因为我最初需要跟随郭强先生，如果这样对您来说说得通的话，先生。　09:54:06\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 57 页，共 280 页\n\n6　问：嗯，我只是想指出，我并非暗示存在问题。我只是想了解发生之事的事实；所以这是我的下一个问题。　09:54:21\n\n10　您何时开始在Golden Spring (New York)工作？　09:54:32\n\n12　答：先生，我相信我已经回答了您有关Golden Spring (New York)的问题。那是从——我被任命为Golden Spring (New York)的高级职员和董事时开始的。　09:54:40\n\n16　问：何时？　09:54:50\n\n17　答：2018年。　09:54:51\n\n18　问：您记得2018年的何时吗？　09:54:54\n\n19　答：2018年春季。　09:54:59\n\n20　问：好的。让我们回到证物一。王女士，请在您打开证物一时告诉我。　09:55:02\n\n22　答：（证人照办。）　09:55:19\n\n23　是的。我在这里。　09:55:20\n\n24　问：好的。再说一次页码，我说的是那些小页码。如果您愿意，请翻到第三十五页。　09:55:22\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 58 页，共 280 页\n\n1　第三十五页。　09:55:32\n\n2　答：（证人照办。）　09:55:36\n\n3　问：请告诉我——　09:55:50\n\n4　答：是。　09:55:51\n\n5　问：——您到那里时。　09:55:52\n\n6　答：是的。我在这里。　09:55:54\n\n7　问：好的。请看证物一第三十五页第十行。　09:55:55\n\n9　答：（证人照办。）　09:56:00\n\n10　问：问题写道：　09:56:05\n\n11　“问：您说您于2018年2月来为Golden Spring (New York)工作？”　09:56:07\n\n14　而您的回答是：　09:56:13\n\n15　“答：是。”　09:56:15\n\n16　现在，我在这里唯一关注的是，2018年2月听起来是否是您开始为Golden Spring (New York)工作的正确日期。　09:56:16\n\n20　答：先生，我回答的是2018年春季。我的意思是——　09:56:28\n\n22　问：我——我没有暗示任何事情，只是在问2月是否正确。　09:56:36\n\n24　这听起来大致正确吗？　09:56:42\n\n25　答：我不记得。2018年春季。您可以查阅Golden Spring (New York)的公司记录簿。其中应该有明确记载。　09:56:46\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 59 页，共 280 页\n\n3　问：您于2018年春季开始在那里工作时，还有其他人在Golden Spring (New York)工作吗？　09:56:56\n\n6　答：您所说的Golden Spring (New York)是否有人工作是什么意思？　09:57:10\n\n8　问：嗯，您提到，我认为您说过，您于2018年春季被任命到Golden Spring。　09:57:21\n\n11　我要问您的是，在您被任命时，是否有其他人为Golden Spring (New York)工作？　09:57:32\n\n14　答：郭强先生本人。　09:57:44\n\n15　问：好的。他的职位是什么？　09:57:49\n\n16　答：他是Golden Spring (New York)的一名董事。　09:57:55\n\n18　问：还有其他人吗？　09:57:59\n\n19　答：没有。　09:58:03\n\n20　我被任命时，只有我和他本人。　09:58:08\n\n21　问：那么，当时没有其他在Golden Spring工作的雇员？　09:58:14\n\n23　答：我不记得。　09:58:23\n\n24　问：您是否记得，当时是否有一名为Golden Spring (New York)工作的司机？　09:58:23\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 60 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我不记得。　09:58:35\n\n2　问：让我们再看一下证据1。　09:58:35\n3　答：（证人照做。）　09:58:41\n4　问：这次让我们翻到第四十页。　09:58:51\n5　答：（证人照做。）　09:58:55\n6　问：到了之后请告诉我。　09:59:02\n7　答：是的，我到了。　09:59:07\n8　问：好的。\n看一下第七行。\n你说：　09:59:08\n9　“答：\n我记得当时有一名　09:59:24\n10　司机。\n我见过一名司机，一位韩国　09:59:25\n11　男士，是的。”　09:59:30\n12　然后有一个问题：　09:59:33\n13　“问：\n你认为他在　09:59:35\n14　2018年2月之前是Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）的　09:59:36\n15　雇员吗？”　09:59:39\n16　你的回答：　09:59:40\n17　“答：\n2018年2月，那是他当时　09:59:43\n18　告诉我的。　09:59:46\n19　“问：\n你见过一名司机，他告诉　09:59:48\n20　你，他是Golden Spring　09:59:50\n21　（New York）（纽约金泉）的雇员吗？　09:59:53\n22　“答：\n是。”　09:59:54\n23　然后你说，他就是在机场　09:59:55\n24　接你的人。　09:59:58\n25　这是否唤起你对于　10:00:01\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions（Veritext法律解决方案公司）866 299-5127\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第61页，共\n\n1　你开始在那里工作时，Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）是否雇有一名司机的记忆？　10:00:03\n\n2　Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）？　10:00:07\n3　答：\n先生，我今天是证人——据我　10:00:12\n4　理解，这是关于破产的。\n我的意思是，这　10:00:18\n5　是我的任务——这是我多少年前的证言　10:00:21\n6　了？\n三、四年前？　10:00:27\n7　我的意思是，我当时能够记得，因为　10:00:29\n8　那是一个相对较近的日期。\n如你所说，我于　10:00:32\n9　2018年10月接受了询问。\n现在已经将近三年　10:00:37\n10　半、四年之后了。\n我的意思是，这么多　10:00:41\n11　年过去了，我无法记得。\n但是既然　10:00:45\n12　我在这里2018年的证言是这么说的，那是　10:00:50\n13　有可能的。\n这提醒了我。\n没错。\n但这　10:00:54\n14　并不意味着三年半、四年之后，　10:00:57\n15　我仍应记得所有细节；对吗？\n我正在　10:01:02\n16　就一项破产案在这里接受询问。　10:01:02\n17　我对此理解正确吗？　10:01:07\n18　问：\n嗯，你——你有一部分说得　10:01:09\n19　对，即我向你出示了这些信息，　10:01:11\n20　以了解它是否有助于唤起你的记忆。　10:01:14\n21　而且，确实如此，问题是，　10:01:19\n22　阅读这份证言笔录是否有助于唤起你关于　10:01:22\n23　你开始工作时，Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）是否有一名司机工作的　10:01:25\n24　记忆。　10:01:30\n25　答：\n我——　10:01:31\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第62页，共\n\n1　ROSEN先生（罗森）：\n此时，我将　10:01:31\n\n2　指示证人不再回答任何　10:01:33\n3　此类问题。　10:01:36\n4　这是在一项有争议事项中的证言询问，　10:01:37\n5　涉及批准一项破产案中的DIP融资安排。\n　10:01:41\n6　到目前为止，在30(b)(6)事项清单中，　10:01:49\n7　这些问题几乎没有涉及其中任何——　10:01:52\n8　任何事项，也许稍微涉及所有权　10:01:55\n9　结构。\n你已经询问了高管、　10:01:58\n10　雇员和董事，截至目前，没有任何问题涉及　10:02:02\n11　一笔DIP贷款。　10:02:06\n12　因此，我要求你，如果你打算进行　10:02:07\n13　钓鱼式调查，或者试图将其他法院的诉讼　10:02:10\n14　延伸到这里，我将不得不指示　10:02:12\n15　证人不作答。　10:02:17\n16　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）提问：　10:02:18\n17　问：\n王女士（Wang），刚才你说，　10:02:18\n18　阅读这份证言笔录确实有助于你　10:02:22\n19　回忆起来。　10:02:26\n20　所以我的问题是，在你开始在那里工作时，　10:02:26\n21　Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）是否有一名司机在工作，　10:02:29\n22　还是没有？　10:02:32\n23　答：\n正如我2018年的证言所说，这是　10:02:37\n24　有可能的。\n你帮了忙，先生。　10:02:42\n25　问：\n好的。\nMileson Kwok（郭强）是否居住在　10:02:44\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第63页，共280\n\n1　你开始在Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）工作时的纽约？　10:03:01\n2　（纽约金泉）？　10:03:03\n3　ROSEN先生（罗森）：异议。我指示　10:03:03\n4　证人不得回答。　10:03:05\n5　这与任何　10:03:06\n6　30(b)(6)证言询问事项毫无关联，完全没有。而且，　10:03:06\n7　其目的严格来说是要么重新诉讼，要么　10:03:12\n8　延伸其他法院的诉讼，或者骚扰该　10:03:13\n9　证人。　10:03:17\n10　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）提问：　10:03:18\n11　问：王女士（Wang），你知道Mileson Kwok（郭强）是谁吗？　10:03:18\n12　答：先生，请您再拼写一遍这个名字，可以吗？　10:03:25\n13　问：可以。　10:03:28\n14　M-i-l-e-s-o-n Kwok，K-w-o-k。　10:03:29\n15　你知道那是谁吗？　10:03:39\n16　答：先生，我不知道您指的是谁。　10:03:41\n17　问：好的。你提到，在你成为　10:03:43\n18　董事时，有人是Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）的董事。　10:03:47\n19　董事。　10:03:51\n20　那个人叫什么名字？　10:03:52\n21　答：如果您指的是Qiang Guo（郭强），即我被任命时的那位　10:03:56\n22　董事，他的名字是Q-i-a-n-g　10:04:01\n23　G-u-o。他的英文名是Mileson，M-i-l-e-s-o-n，　10:04:08\n24　姓氏是G-u-o，先生，如果这对您有帮助的话。　10:04:20\n25　　10:04:25\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第64页，共\n\n1　您指的是这个人吗？　10:04:27\n\n2　问：\n是——是的。　10:04:29\n3　答：\n好的。　10:04:29\n4　问：\n并且——　10:04:29\n5　答：\n我从未听说过有人叫　10:04:30\n6　Mileson Kwok（郭强）。\n我的意思是，我从未听说过这个　10:04:33\n7　人。　10:04:36\n8　问：\n好的。\nMileson Guo（郭强）与　10:04:36\n9　Wengui Guo（郭文贵）是什么关系？\n拼写为W-e-n-g-u-i G-u-o。　10:04:45\n10　如果有关系，若你　10:04:57\n11　知道的话，他们是什么关系？　10:05:00\n12　答：\nQiang Guo（郭强）——Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o——他是　10:05:00\n13　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的儿子。　10:05:07\n14　问：\n即H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k；对吗？　10:05:23\n15　答：\n您说得对，先生。　10:05:29\n16　问：\n为了便于阅读这份笔录的每个人　10:05:30\n17　理解，我们能否请　10:05:33\n18　将Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的儿子称为Mileson？\n你是否同意　10:05:36\n19　这样做？　10:05:45\n20　答：\n不同意，先生。　10:05:46\n21　我更愿意继续称他为Qiang Guo（郭强）。　10:05:47\n22　原因是，再次说明，英语不是我的母语。　10:05:51\n23　我不想发音某些　10:05:54\n24　可能会被在场所有人误解的内容，　10:05:58\n25　如果可以的话。　10:06:03\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第65页，共280\n\n1　问：\n完全没问题。　10:06:04\n\n2　答：\n谢谢。　10:06:08\n3　问：\n那么我们就继续使用Qiang Guo（郭强）。　10:06:09\n4　答：\n谢谢。　10:06:14\n5　问：\n好的。\n你刚才证称，他是　10:06:14\n6　债务人Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）的儿子；对吗？　10:06:17\n7　答：\n您说得对，先生。\n是的。　10:06:21\n8　问：\n那么我的问题是，当你开始在Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）工作时，Qiang Guo（郭强）是否居住在　10:06:22\n9　纽约？　10:06:26\n10　（纽约金泉）？　10:06:28\n11　答：\n先生，您所说的居住在纽约是什么意思？　10:06:30\n12　例如，我的意思是，我不明白。\n去那里旅行。　10:06:35\n13　我在那里见过他，是的。\n我不明白您所说　10:06:38\n14　居住在纽约是什么意思。　10:06:42\n15　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：\nSunny（桑尼），也许你可以　10:06:45\n16　帮我。\n我的英文问题是，　10:06:48\n17　在你开始为Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）工作时，Qiang Guo（郭强）先生是否　10:06:52\n18　居住在纽约？　10:06:56\n19　请你为我翻译这个问题，可以吗？　10:06:59\n20　口译员：\n（口译该问题。）　10:07:36\n21　证人：\n（通过口译员）　10:07:36\n22　我于2018年正式开始为Golden Spring　10:07:36\n23　（New York）（纽约金泉）工作。\n我不记得当时Qiang Guo（郭强）先生是否　10:07:39\n24　居住在纽约。　10:07:41\n\n25　///\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第66页，共\n\n1　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）提问：　10:07:46\n\n2　问：\n在你开始为　10:07:46\n3　Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）工作前后，你是否亲自在纽约　10:07:54\n4　见过他？　10:07:57\n5　答：\n我不记得。　10:08:01\n6　问：\n你是否曾亲自在纽约见过Qiang Guo（郭强）先生？　10:08:02\n7　纽约？　10:08:10\n8　答：\n是的，我见过。　10:08:13\n9　问：\n最后一次是什么时候？　10:08:14\n10　答：\n我不记得。　10:08:18\n11　问：\n在过去一年内？　10:08:21\n12　答：\n我不记得。　10:08:25\n13　问：\n在过去五年内？　10:08:26\n14　答：\n是的。　10:08:30\n15　有可能。　10:08:37\n16　问：\n在你开始为Golden Spring　10:08:38\n17　（New York）（纽约金泉）工作时，Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生是否居住在纽约？　10:08:47\n18　（纽约金泉）？　10:08:49\n19　ROSEN先生（罗森）：异议。这是同一个　10:08:51\n20　问题。　10:08:53\n21　我认为——律师，你能否向我解释　10:08:55\n22　这个问题的相关性。　10:08:56\n23　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：\n嗯，如你所知，　10:09:02\n24　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生是债务人，这当然　10:09:03\n25　在适当事项的范围之内，　10:09:07\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第67页，共280\n\n1　依我们看来，我应当探究Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生　10:09:13\n\n2　与Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）的关系，该公司是　10:09:17\n3　其在这笔DIP贷款中的名义贷款人；因此，我从　10:09:20\n4　询问Kwok先生在证人开始于Golden Spring　10:09:29\n5　（New York）（纽约金泉）工作时居住在何处的问题开始。　10:09:32\n6　这就是相关性。　10:09:34\n7　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）提问：　10:09:35\n8　问：\n王女士（Wang），答案是什么？　10:09:35\n9　ROSEN先生（罗森）：\n我将指示　10:09:37\n10　证人不回答这个问题。\n这是——　10:09:38\n11　我看不出披露　10:09:42\n12　当事人所在之处及当前所在地与此处DIP贷款融资之间有任何相关性。　10:09:44\n13　这只是——这　10:09:48\n14　只是骚扰。　10:09:53\n15　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：\n所以你——你正在　10:09:57\n16　指示证人不回答，对吗，Scott（斯科特）？　10:09:58\n17　ROSEN先生（罗森）：\n是的。　10:10:01\n18　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：\n好的。　10:10:03\n19　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）提问：　10:10:03\n20　问：\n王女士（Wang），当你开始在　10:10:04\n21　Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）工作时，你的职务是什么？　10:10:06\n22　答：\n我当时是——我是——我当时是——总裁、　10:10:11\n23　秘书，我相信也是司库，以及董事。　10:10:16\n24　问：\n为了确保我理解正确，你说的是：　10:10:23\n25　总裁、秘书、司库和董事；　10:10:27\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第68页，共\n\n1　对吗？　10:10:31\n\n2　答：对。　10:10:32\n3　问：我要向你出示——我们称之为　10:10:32\n4　3号。　10:10:41\n5　（证言询问证据3号　10:10:43\n6　已标记供识别。）　10:10:48\n7　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：\n等它显示出来。　10:10:48\n8　据告知，它应该已经在那里了。\n我拿到了。　10:11:27\n9　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）提问：　10:11:30\n10　问：王女士（Wang），你有3号吗？　10:11:30\n11　答：是的，先生。　10:11:34\n12　我有。　10:11:35\n13　问：好的。\n很好。　10:11:36\n14　打开那——那一份。　10:11:37\n15　答：（证人照做。）　10:11:39\n16　问：请告诉我你是否认得这份文件。　10:11:42\n17　答：认得。　10:11:46\n18　问：好的。\n这是你协助制作并随一份宣誓书　10:11:50\n19　提交的文件，不是吗？　10:11:57\n20　答：先生，您说我制作是什么意思？　10:12:01\n21　问：那么，我撤回这个问题。　10:12:08\n22　你说你认得这份文件。　10:12:11\n23　它是什么？　10:12:13\n24　答：这是一份董事和高级职员名册。　10:12:14\n25　问：是Golden Spring（New York） Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的？　10:12:19\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第69页，共\n\n1　答：\n是。　10:12:23\n\n2　问：\n这份文件是你制作的吗？　10:12:24\n3　答：\n我不记得了。\n它应当是由——　10:12:26\n4　我不记得了。　10:12:37\n5　问：\n请稍等一下。　10:12:37\n6　HARBACH律师：\n各位，很抱歉——这个延误，　10:13:55\n7　但希望我刚刚为我们节省了一些　10:13:58\n8　时间。　10:14:02\n9　HARBACH律师继续询问：　10:14:04\n10　问：\n我将请你先放下证据3，　10:14:05\n11　稍后我会再回到它。　10:14:08\n12　好吗？　10:14:12\n13　答：\n是。　10:14:12\n14　问：\n当——当你为　10:14:13\n15　Golden Spring (Hong Kong)（金泉（香港））工作时，你有任何职务吗？　10:14:28\n16　答：\n我不记得了。\n那是很多年前的事。　10:14:35\n17　问：\n你在Golden Spring　10:14:42\n18　(Hong Kong)的职责是什么？　10:14:45\n19　ROSEN律师：\n异议。\n这——你能否　10:14:47\n20　请指出，根据30(b)(6)中的哪一项议题，　10:14:50\n21　Golden Spring (New York)（金泉（纽约））的一名公司证人　10:14:55\n22　就此作证才会——才会适当？　10:14:59\n23　HARBACH律师：\n再次说明，我正在通过她先前的　10:15:01\n24　经历及其与她目前　10:15:04\n25　职务的关系，了解她作为Golden Spring (New York)代表作证的资格。　10:15:07\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第70页，共280页\n\n1　经历及其与她目前　10:15:10\n\n2　职务的关系。　10:15:13\n3　ROSEN律师：\n我保留该异议。　10:15:16\n4　但你可以回答这个问题。　10:15:19\n5　HARBACH律师继续询问：　10:15:22\n6　问：\n王女士，问题是你的　10:15:23\n7　在Golden Spring (Hong Kong)的职责是什么？　10:15:25\n8　答：\n我听从公司所有人　10:15:28\n9　Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的指示，并为他工作。　10:15:34\n10　问：\n你——具体做什么？　10:15:42\n11　答：\n做他要求我做的工作。　10:15:46\n12　我不记得了。\n那是很多年前的事。　10:15:52\n13　问：\n你——你——你不记得你的　10:15:54\n14　工作任务是什么？　10:15:56\n15　答：\n相当多样。　10:15:58\n16　问：\n好。\n你是否记得，在你　10:16:04\n17　为Golden Spring (Hong Kong)工作期间，你是否为　10:16:15\n18　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生做过任何工作？　10:16:20\n19　答：\n抱歉。　10:16:21\n20　先生，您的问题是什么？　10:16:22\n21　问：\n在你为Golden Spring　10:16:24\n22　Hong Kong工作期间，你是否为Ho Wan Kwok先生做过任何工作？　10:16:30\n23　答：\n我不记得了。　10:16:32\n24　问：\n是谁任命你担任Golden Spring　10:16:33\n25　的总裁、秘书、财务主管及董事？　10:16:45\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第71页\n\n1　(New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）？　10:16:51\n\n2　答：我是由Qiang Guo先生任命的。　10:16:52\n\n3　问：当他任命你担任这些职务时，　10:16:56\n\n4　他告诉你你的职责会是什么？　10:17:00\n\n5　答：\n我被任命后，他——他要求我　10:17:03\n\n6　经营——管理Golden Spring (New York)，即他的　10:17:14\n7　公司，作为一般事务。　10:17:19\n8　问：\n请说明你所说的“作为一般事务”是什么意思。　10:17:21\n9　答：\n我的意思是，公司所有人本人要求我做的　10:17:25\n10　任何工作、任务，我都会　10:17:34\n11　为他做。　10:17:39\n12　问：\n当你担任Golden Spring　10:17:40\n13　(New York)的总裁、秘书、财务主管及董事时，　10:17:56\n14　你是否具备任何金融专业　10:18:02\n\n16　答：\n先生，您所说的金融专业　10:18:07\n\n17　知识是什么意思？　10:18:14\n18　问：\n让我们回到证据1。　10:18:15\n\n15　知识？　10:18:05\n\n19　答：　（证人照做。）　10:18:18\n\n20　问：　更正。\n抱歉。　10:18:24\n21　证据2。　10:18:27\n22　答：　（证人照做。）　10:18:28\n23　问：　第47页。　10:18:35\n24　答：　（证人照做。）　10:18:39\n25　问：　实际上，你可能需要往前看一点　10:18:51\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第72页，共280页\n\n1　到第46页。　10:18:55\n\n2　到了那里时告诉我。　10:18:59\n3　答：\n我在第46页。　10:19:01\n4　问：\n好。\n在第46页底部，有一项回答　10:19:03\n5　开头是——它是针对向你出示的某份证据　10:19:07\n6　所提问题作出的回答。　10:19:11\n7　在你的回答中，内容延续至第　10:19:15\n8　47页，你除其他事项外说道：　10:19:19\n9　“回答：\n我是Golden Spring的　10:19:22\n10　管理人。\n这不是我的选择，因为　10:19:24\n11　中国共产党，他们绑架了几乎　10:19:27\n12　我与公司之间的所有同事；　10:19:32\n13　所以就我的背景而言，我没有金融　10:19:35\n14　专业知识。\n我没有　10:19:38\n15　美国房地产专业知识。”　10:19:41\n16　你的回答还在继续。　10:19:44\n17　但我刚刚读出了我对本问题感兴趣的　10:19:47\n18　那两句话，因为我的　10:19:49\n19　问题是，当你担任　10:19:52\n20　Golden Spring (New York) Limited的总裁、秘书、财务主管及　10:19:55\n21　董事职务时，你是否具备任何　10:20:00\n22　金融专业知识？　10:20:04\n23　答案是什么？　10:20:10\n24　答：\n这些证言发生在哪一年，　10:20:11\n25　先生？\n2018年还是‘19年？　10:20:17\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第73页，共280页\n\n1　问：\n我刚才读出的记录并不是　10:20:21\n\n2　一份证言笔录。\n它是在法庭上的证词，并且是在　10:20:23\n3　2019年5月。　10:20:28\n4　答：\n好。　10:20:32\n5　问：\n但这些——这些看来是你的　10:20:32\n6　原话，所以这就是我提出该问题的原因。　10:20:35\n7　答：\n所以回到2019年，我作证时——我的　10:20:39\n8　证词是正确的。\n我的意思是，整个——　10:20:44\n9　Qiang Guo先生，他的家族企业，包括其　10:20:50\n10　雇员，都受到了迫害。\n他们要么　10:20:53\n11　被逮捕、绑架，或失踪。\n当时我是　10:21:00\n12　幸存者之一。\n那是正确的。　10:21:04\n13　然后，在2019年我作证时，　10:21:07\n14　我说我没有——那是——我很谦虚；　10:21:10\n15　对吗？\n所以那是我的证词——证——　10:21:18\n16　证词。\n然后现在是2022年，我的意思是，我可以　10:21:21\n17　在三年中学到很多；对吗？　10:21:26\n18　问：\n当然。　10:21:29\n19　答：\n所以——　10:21:29\n20　问：\n当然。　10:21:29\n21　答：\n——这并不意味着我现在没有任何　10:21:29\n22　东西——　10:21:31\n23　问：\n当然。　10:21:32\n24　答：\n——可以在这次破产程序中，就这次　10:21:32\n25　证言笔录作证。　10:21:35\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第74页\n\n1　问：\n是的。\n我明白——三年　10:21:35\n\n2　已经过去。\n我的问题不是关于今天。　10:21:38\n3　我的问题是关于你被任命担任　10:21:43\n4　Golden Spring (New York)总裁、秘书、财务主管及　10:21:47\n5　董事的那一天。\n我问的是　10:21:53\n6　那一天。　10:21:56\n7　我的问题是，截至那一天，你是否　10:21:59\n8　具备任何金融专业知识？　10:22:03\n9　答：\n先生，您在问三年前的哪一种金融专业　10:22:08\n10　知识？　10:22:13\n11　　10:22:15\n12　问：\n那是你的原话，王女士。\n你说，　10:22:16\n13　我没有金融专业知识。　10:22:21\n14　我不知道你是什么意思。\n这本会是一个很好的　10:22:26\n15　问题，但这是你说的话；所以这就是为什么　10:22:28\n16　我在问你时用了这些词。\n这是一个简单的　10:22:33\n17　问题。　10:22:36\n18　我所问的只是，在你担任　10:22:38\n19　Golden Spring (New York)所有这些职务时，　10:22:41\n20　你是否具备任何金融专业知识？\n是　10:22:44\n21　还是否？　10:22:49\n22　答：\n当我说我没有——当我说我没有时，　10:22:54\n23　正如我再次重复的，那是我们的文化——我们的　10:22:58\n24　文化，中国文化。\n我出于谦虚而说　10:23:05\n25　我没有专业知识。　10:23:09\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第75页\n\n1　问：我明白。　10:23:11\n\n2　答：\n英语不是我的母语。\n我并不　10:23:12\n\n3　意味着我对金融一无所知，如果这就是　10:23:15\n4　您想要的答案，先生。　10:23:20\n5　问：\n首先，我所寻求的只是事实真相。　10:23:22\n6　　10:23:25\n7　其次，我不是要求你谦虚或　10:23:26\n8　自豪。\n我只是要求你诚实。　10:23:31\n9　答：\n我是诚实的。　10:23:34\n10　问：\n同样地，我的意思是，你在法庭作证时　10:23:34\n11　是在宣誓后作证，我认为当时　10:23:38\n12　也应当期待你诚实。　10:23:40\n13　　10:23:43\n14　答：\n我是诚实的。　10:23:44\n15　问：\n好。\n我那天不在场。\n我所　10:23:45\n16　拥有的只有记录。\n而我只是——我是在　10:23:48\n17　诚实地告诉你。\n这就是我提出　10:23:52\n18　问题的原因，因为我看到你说你　10:23:54\n19　没有任何金融专业知识。　10:23:58\n20　所以我想，问题是，如果你在　10:24:01\n21　2019年只是出于谦虚，你的意思是否是　10:24:05\n22　事实上，在你被任命担任Golden Spring所有这些　10:24:10\n23　职务时，你确实具备金融专业　10:24:14\n24　知识？\n这就是你　10:24:16\n\n25　想要说的意思吗？　10:24:20\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第76页，共280页\n\n1　答：\n我并不是想说任何事情。\n我的　10:24:20\n\n2　证词——回到2019年，那是我的证词，而且　10:24:23\n3　我坚持该证词。\n那是——真实且　10:24:27\n4　准确的信息，先生。\n至于现在　10:24:31\n5　三年之后您在寻求什么，我不　10:24:34\n6　明白，我会尽力帮助您。　10:24:38\n7　问：\n好。\n记录中的下一句话也是同一个问题，　10:24:40\n8　该句话说：　10:24:44\n9　“我没有美国房地产　10:24:46\n10　专业知识。”　10:24:49\n11　你在2019年说出这些话时，这是真的吗？　10:24:50\n12　　10:24:53\n13　答：\n这是正确的。\n我不是房地产——房地产经纪人。　10:24:55\n14　我不是持证房地产经纪人；对吗？\n那是　10:25:00\n15　正确的。　10:25:03\n16　问：\n好。\n所以，至少截至　10:25:06\n17　2019年5月，你没有美国房地产　10:25:09\n18　专业知识，这一点是正确的——　10:25:14\n19　答：\n正确。　10:25:15\n20　问：\n——对吗？　10:25:16\n21　答：\n当时我根本没有执照。　10:25:16\n22　问：\n下一个问题。　10:25:19\n23　你以　10:25:29\n24　Golden Spring (New York) Limited总裁身份，是否　10:25:36\n25　担任管理人，负责维护　10:25:42\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第77页，共280页\n\n1　Ho Wan Kwok先生及其家人的利益？　10:25:46\n\n2　ROSEN律师：\n异议。\n要求作出法律　10:25:51\n3　结论。　10:25:52\n4　你可以回答。　10:25:53\n5　证人：\n我需要口译员帮助我。　10:25:56\n6　先生，我不明白您的问题。　10:25:59\n7　HARBACH律师：\n好。\n但在我们——在　10:26:01\n8　我们继续之前——实际上，让——让我们——Sunny，如果　10:26:03\n9　你不介意，我会再问一遍这个问题。\n而且　10:26:09\n10　我——我很抱歉用你的名字称呼你。　10:26:12\n11　那不专业。\n抱歉。\nJohnston女士。　10:26:15\n12　HARBACH律师继续询问：　10:26:15\n13　问：\n王女士，问题是，以你担任　10:26:20\n14　Golden Spring (New York) Limited总裁的身份，　10:26:23\n15　你是否确实担任管理人，负责维护　10:26:30\n16　Kwok先生——Ho Wan Kwok先生及其　10:26:35\n17　家人的利益？　10:26:40\n18　ROSEN律师：\n我重申异议。　10:26:43\n19　你可以回答这个问题。　10:26:46\n20　HARBACH律师：\n（口译该问题。）　10:27:15\n21　核对口译员：\n核对　10:27:15\n22　口译员听到了Kwok先生和Ho Wan Kwok先生及　10:27:16\n23　其家人。　10:27:20\n24　HARBACH律师：\n正确。　10:27:21\n25　那就是问题。　10:27:22\n\n案号22-50073 文件440-26 于05/25/22提交 于05/26/22 15:30:37录入 第78页\n\n1　核对口译员：是。　10:27:24\n\n2　但不是Wengui Guo；对吗？　10:27:25\n\n3　HARBACH律师：那——　10:27:29\n\n4　口译员：那是他的普通话名字，　10:27:29\n\n5　Ho Wan Kwok。\n普通话是Wengui Guo。　10:27:36\n\n6　核对口译员：但是，我的意思是，　10:27:42\n\n7　律师说的是Ho Wan Kwok。　10:27:43\n8　HARBACH律师：是。　10:27:45\n\n9　律师说Ho Wan Kwok的原因是　10:27:45\n\n10　因为该证人称她就是这样认识该债务人的。　10:27:48\n11　我先前问过她是否认识 Wengui Guo（郭文贵）这个　10:27:51\n12　名字，她说她认识他时使用的是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）；因此我才使用　10:27:56\n13　这个名字。　10:28:01\n14　口译员：\n是。　10:28:03\n15　HARBACH 先生（哈巴赫）：\n但我们可以澄清这一点——我们　10:28:05\n16　现在可以澄清这一点，Wilkinson 女士。　10:28:06\n\n17　核对口译员：好的。　10:28:08\n18　HARBACH 先生提问：　10:28:08\n19　问：Wang 女士，今后在提及 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的父亲时，您希望使用　10:28:08\n20　哪个名字？　10:28:12\n21　答：Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生。　10:28:18\n22　问：很好。　10:28:19\n23　答：那是债务人，对吗？那是　10:28:20\n24　债务人的名字。　10:28:21\n25　我说得对吗？　10:28:23\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 79 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：您说得对。没错。　10:28:24\n\n2　答：那就用这个吧，是的。嗯。　10:28:25\n\n3　问：女士，您希望 Johnston 女士（约翰斯顿）用中文　10:28:27\n4　为您重复一遍这个问题吗？　10:28:30\n\n5　答：是，请。　10:28:32\n\n6　问：好的。　10:28:34\n\n7　口译员：Harbach 先生，您能否　10:28:37\n8　再重复一遍问题？　10:28:39\n\n9　HARBACH 先生：当然，没问题。　10:28:42\n\n13　而不说普通话名字。　10:28:54\n\n10　口译员：\n让您知道一下，　10:28:46\n11　口译员不会说粤语；因此我只会　10:28:48\n12　重——我只会按照您发音的方式说　10:28:53\n\n14　HARBACH 先生：好的。那——那没问题。　10:28:57\n15　而且，显然，我两种语言都不会说；所以我会依靠　10:28:59\n16　你们各位。　10:29:02\n17　HARBACH 先生提问：　10:29:03\n18　问：那么，问题是这样的。　10:29:03\n19　作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（黄金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）的总裁，　10:29:05\n20　您是否确实担任　10:29:07\n21　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生及其家人利益的　10:29:12\n22　管理人？　10:29:18\n23　ROSEN 先生（罗森）：反对。　10:29:23\n24　您可以回答。　10:29:25\n25　证人：（通过口译员）嗯，　10:29:59\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 80 页，共 280 页\n\n1　首先，我不知道您所说的　10:30:07\n2　“管理人”一词是什么意思。　10:30:10\n3　第二，我为 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生工作。　10:30:11\n4　HARBACH 先生：这是回答的全部内容吗，　10:30:22\n5　Johnston 女士？　10:30:23\n6　口译员：是，全部内容就是这些。　10:30:25\n7　HARBACH 先生：好的。谢谢。　10:30:27\n8　HARBACH 先生提问：　10:30:28\n9　问：现在请看证物 4。　10:30:28\n10　（证言证物编号 4　10:30:31\n11　已标记以供识别。）　10:30:35\n12　证人：（证人照做。）　10:30:35\n13　HARBACH 先生提问：　10:30:57\n14　问：好的，我已经打开了，Wang 女士。我希望您　10:30:57\n15　也已经打开了。　10:31:00\n16　答：（英语）是。　10:31:01\n17　我在这里。　10:31:03\n18　问：很好。　10:31:04\n19　请打开证物 4。　10:31:05\n20　答：是。　10:31:07\n21　问：我首先想做的是翻到　10:31:07\n22　最后一页。　10:31:10\n23　答：（证人照做。）　10:31:12\n24　问：您看到了吗？　10:31:14\n25　答：是。　10:31:15\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 81 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：证物 4 右上角的　10:31:15\n2　签名是您的吗？　10:31:19\n3　答：抱歉，先生。　10:31:25\n4　您的意思是证物 4，对吗？　10:31:26\n5　问：是，先生——或者请原谅。\n是，女士。　10:31:28\n6　答：好的。我打开错了。　10:31:33\n7　问：好的。　10:31:35\n8　答：那我回去。　10:31:35\n9　证物 4，您的意思是董事和高级管理人员　10:31:37\n10　名册吗？　10:31:40\n11　问：不。不。不。　10:31:41\n12　答：好的。那是——　10:31:44\n13　问：这份文件上写着证物，旁边　10:31:44\n14　有编号，四。　10:31:47\n15　答：好的。　10:31:50\n16　问：所以您打开后，第一页　10:31:51\n17　写着 Yan Ping Wang（王燕平）的宣誓书。　10:31:54\n18　如果您拿对了文件，请告诉我。　10:31:58\n19　答：是。　10:32:01\n20　问：好。　10:32:01\n21　现在请翻到最后一页。那　10:32:02\n22　是第三页。　10:32:05\n23　答：（证人照做。）　10:32:06\n24　是。　10:32:06\n25　问：我要问您的是，　10:32:07\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 82 页，共 280 页\n\n1　证物 4 第三页右上角的　10:32:12\n2　签名是您的吗？　10:32:16\n\n2　签名是您的吗？　10:32:16\n\n3　答：是。　10:32:17\n4　问：好的。现在我们回到第一页。　10:32:18\n5　答：（证人照做。）　10:32:21\n6　问：您可以看到，这是一份　10:32:21\n7　由您签署并于　10:32:26\n8　2018 年 5 月 16 日提交至 Supreme Court of the State of New York（纽约州最高法院）的　10:32:28\n9　宣誓书。　10:32:32\n10　您看到了吗？　10:32:34\n11　答：是。　10:32:35\n12　问：好的。现在，我还注意到第三　10:32:40\n13　页——抱歉一直让您来回翻。　10:32:43\n14　请您翻到第三页。　10:32:47\n15　答：最后一页，对吗？　10:32:50\n16　问：是，女士。　10:32:54\n17　答：（证人照做。）　10:32:55\n18　是。　10:32:55\n19　我在这里。　10:32:56\n20　问：您会看到，在公证人的　10:32:56\n21　签名上方，表明其于　10:32:59\n22　2018 年 5 月 15 日宣誓。　10:33:02\n23　您在那里看到了吗？　10:33:04\n24　答：是。　10:33:05\n25　问：好的。现在请为我回到第一页。　10:33:08\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 83 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：（证人照做。）　10:33:11\n\n2　问：到了那里时告诉我。　10:33:14\n3　答：是。　10:33:17\n4　问：您的证言的第一句话——　10:33:18\n5　抱歉。这份宣誓书的第一句话写道：　10:33:23\n6　“我是 Golden Spring　10:33:26\n7　(New York) Limited 的总裁，并以该身份　10:33:28\n8　担任本案中被诉为 Kwok Ho　10:33:32\n9　Wan 的被告利益的管理人”——　10:33:35\n10　　10:33:35\n11　随后列出了数个别名。　10:33:42\n12　——“及其家人。”句号。　10:33:46\n13　您看到了那句话吗？　10:33:48\n14　答：是。　10:33:52\n15　问：那么，请您告诉我，担任 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）先生及　10:33:52\n16　其家人利益的管理人是什么意思，　10:34:00\n17　因为这些是您自己的话。　10:34:12\n18　答：这也是由律师起草的；所以据　10:34:16\n19　我理解，“管理人”这些词——　10:34:20\n20　再说一次，我根本不是母语人士——意思是　10:34:25\n21　我为 Golden Spring 工作，并接受　10:34:30\n22　Golden Spring 所有人的指示，完成　10:34:32\n23　Golden Spring 要求我完成的工作和任务，　10:34:39\n24　这就是我在这里的意思。　10:34:43\n\n25　问：您认为您一生中签署过多少份　10:34:44\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 84 页，共 280 页\n\n1　宣誓书？　10:34:48\n\n2　答：我不记得。　10:34:50\n3　问：超过五份吗？　10:34:52\n4　答：我不记得。　10:34:55\n5　问：超过二十五份吗？　10:34:57\n6　答：我不记得。　10:34:59\n7　问：也许超过五十份？　10:35:01\n8　答：我不记得。　10:35:04\n9　问：您知道——宣誓书是什么吗？　10:35:08\n10　答：您是什么意思，问我是否知道宣誓书　10:35:12\n11　是什么？　10:35:17\n12　问：您知道宣誓书是什么吗？您　10:35:18\n13　知道这个词是什么意思吗？　10:35:20\n14　答：我不明白您的问题。　10:35:23\n15　HARBACH 先生：Johnston 女士，您能否　10:35:30\n16　翻译一下。　10:35:33\n17　您知道宣誓书是什么吗？　10:35:34\n18　口译员：（翻译问题。）　10:35:47\n19　证人：所以我不明白您的　10:35:47\n20　问题。我所做的只是我在　10:35:58\n21　Golden Spring (New York) Limited 工作。我不是母语　10:36:01\n22　人士。我当然也不是法律人士；　10:36:01\n23　对吗？　10:36:01\n24　所以，就像，我只是来到这里，然后就在此前　10:36:06\n25　尽我能力和所知所能向法律方面陈述全部真实　10:36:07\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 85 页，共 280 页\n\n1　信息——　10:36:11\n\n2　——　10:36:15\n3　HARBACH 先生提问：　10:36:16\n4　问：好的。　10:36:16\n5　答：——这就是我所能说的。　10:36:16\n6　问：好的。　10:36:18\n7　答：我不知道您在找什么。　10:36:18\n8　我的意思是，如果您在找字典中的词语，　10:36:20\n9　我不知道您在找什么。　10:36:22\n10　问：我是在问您是否知道宣誓书　10:36:24\n11　是什么。　10:36:27\n12　答：宣誓书是一种法律文件。　10:36:28\n13　问：好的。您是否理解，　10:36:30\n14　宣誓书是一种法律文件，其中　10:36:34\n15　一人提供经宣誓的证词？　10:36:38\n16　答：是。　10:36:46\n17　问：好的。您刚才告诉我，您——　10:36:47\n18　实际上，我想公平一些。　10:36:51\n19　您——您不知道您过去可能　10:36:54\n20　做过多少份宣誓书；　10:36:56\n21　这正确吗？　10:37:01\n22　答：我不记得。比如说，我为什么要记得　10:37:02\n23　有多少份？我的意思是——　10:37:08\n24　问：我不是——我不是在暗示——　10:37:10\n25　答：我并不在律师事务所工作，对吗？　10:37:12\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 86 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：我不是——　10:37:14\n\n2　答：所以我为什么要记得？　10:37:14\n3　问：我不是在暗示您应当或不应当记得。　10:37:16\n4　我所问的只是，您是否知道您一生中准备过　10:37:19\n5　多少份宣誓书。　10:37:23\n6　而且我理解您的回答是，您　10:37:26\n7　不知道；对吗？　10:37:29\n8　答：先生，现在您问的是我一生中。我不　10:37:31\n9　记得。这就是我的回答。　10:37:36\n10　问：好的。没关系。这就是我　10:37:38\n11　所问的全部。　10:37:41\n12　您告诉我，您理解宣誓书是一种法律文件，其中一人　10:37:43\n13　提供　10:37:46\n14　经宣誓的证词；　10:37:51\n15　对吗？　10:37:55\n16　答：您向我读的那句话，是我在 2018 年　10:37:58\n17　签署的。现在　10:38:01\n18　已是 2020 年 4 月 [原文如此]，当然我不可能记得，　10:38:08\n19　毕竟那差不多是四年前。　10:38:15\n20　问：但是——　10:38:17\n21　答：但我确实知道那是一份法律　10:38:17\n22　文件。我在那份文件中提供了全部真实和诚实的　10:38:19\n23　信息。我现在正在作此证言。　10:38:22\n24　　10:38:25\n25　问：好的。因此，当您于 2018 年 5 月签署这份宣誓书时，　10:38:26\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions 866 299-5127\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 87 页，共 280 页\n\n1　在您签署时它是真实的；　10:38:29\n\n2　这正确吗？　10:38:39\n3　答：当我签署时，我提供了全部真实的　10:38:41\n4　信息。　10:38:47\n5　问：我们正在查看的作为证物 4 的这——这份宣誓书，　10:38:49\n6　您在签署并宣誓时，它是否真实？　10:38:53\n7　　10:38:58\n8　答：我在 2018 年签署了这份　10:39:03\n9　宣誓书。这是我所提供的、据我所知最佳且真实的　10:39:07\n10　信息。　10:39:12\n11　问：这是“是”吗？　10:39:14\n12　答：先生，我已经回答了您的问题。　10:39:17\n13　问：那么，我要再问一遍。　10:39:20\n14　我认为您可能已经回答了，但为了确保我们表述清楚，我想再问　10:39:24\n15　一遍。　10:39:28\n16　这份宣誓书——即证物 4——　10:39:30\n17　在您签署时是否真实？　10:39:32\n18　答：您说在我签署时是什么意思？　10:39:37\n19　我的意思是，我在 2018 年签署它时，认定它是真实的。　10:39:46\n20　问：对。　10:39:51\n21　而且——这里的问题是。　10:39:51\n22　就在几分钟前，当我问您证物 4 的　10:39:55\n23　第一句话时，您提到　10:39:59\n24　这份文件是由律师准备的，而且　10:40:02\n25　英语不是您的第一语言，并且——因此　10:40:06\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 88 页，共 280 页\n\n1　这就是我提出这些问题的原因，以便我能够　10:40:12\n\n2　了解此处页面上所写内容是否　10:40:15\n3　是您的真实证词。　10:40:19\n4　答：\n所以。　10:40:27\n5　问：\n我所能做的只是问您——请让我把我的　10:40:29\n6　问题说完。　10:40:33\n7　我不知道您脑子里想的是什么。我所　10:40:33\n8　能做的只是提问。您已经告诉我，您　10:40:36\n9　签署了这份文件。您已经告诉我，您　10:40:39\n10　理解这是一份宣誓书。您已经告诉我，您　10:40:41\n11　所理解的宣誓书是什么。　10:40:45\n12　所以我现在所问的只是，　10:40:50\n13　这份特定的宣誓书在您签署时是否真实　10:40:53\n14　。这是一个可以回答是、否、不知道或者不　10:40:59\n15　记得的问题。　10:41:06\n16　答：\n这有好几个问题，先生。我不能　10:41:11\n17　只回答一个是或一个否。　10:41:14\n18　问：\n您当然可以。这是一个单独的问题。　10:41:17\n19　答案可以是“是”，可以是“否”，也可以是　10:41:21\n20　“不知道”或“不记得”。　10:41:25\n21　答：\n这份宣誓书——　10:41:32\n22　问：\n您需要我再问一遍这个问题　10:41:33\n23　吗？　10:41:36\n24　答：\n我在2018年签署的这份宣誓书，　10:41:36\n25　是由律师起草的，是的。我的语言——英语　10:41:39\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第89页，共280页\n\n1　不是我的母语，是的。我签署了宣誓书　10:41:45\n\n2　是在2018年。就我所知，　10:41:50\n3　那是如实的信息。当时，我在　10:41:53\n4　上面签署自己的名字时，是的。　10:41:57\n5　我现在作证是为了解释并让　10:41:58\n6　您知道所有那些是与否；截至现在，那是我的真实　10:42:02\n7　证词，是的。这就是我所有的是与否　10:42:06\n8　回答，先生。　10:42:10\n9　问：\n您签署证物4时，　10:42:11\n10　是否理解它？　10:42:14\n11　答：\n理解什么？　10:42:18\n12　问：\n您是否理解您正在签署什么？　10:42:19\n13　答：\n这份宣誓书。　10:42:22\n14　问：\n您是否能够阅读它，并理解　10:42:24\n15　它所说的内容？　10:42:27\n16　答：\n我不理解您的问题。什么——　10:42:31\n17　您是在问我对2018年的记忆吗？　10:42:35\n18　问：\n您——　10:42:38\n19　答：\n我不记得。　10:42:38\n20　问：\n您不记得您签署　10:42:38\n21　这份宣誓书时是否理解其所述内容？　10:42:41\n22　答：\n那是四年前的事，先生。我不记得　10:42:46\n23　当时的细节。　10:42:49\n24　问：\n您是否习惯于在不理解宣誓书内容的情况下，　10:42:51\n25　宣誓签署宣誓书——　10:42:55\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第90页，共280页\n\n1　有——撤回。　10:42:58\n\n2　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫先生）：\n斯科特，您不必　10:43:01\n3　提出异议。　10:43:02\n4　HARBACH先生发问：　10:43:03\n5　问：\n您是否记得这份宣誓书　10:43:04\n6　是否为您翻译过？　10:43:06\n7　答：\n我不记得。再说一次，大概是三、　10:43:07\n8　四年前的事。我不记得。　10:43:11\n9　问：\n您最近一次　10:43:16\n10　签署宣誓书大约是什么时候？　10:43:26\n11　ROSEN先生（罗森先生）：\n异议。　10:43:28\n12　我们——我们真的得继续往下进行了，大卫。　10:43:30\n13　这——　10:43:34\n14　HARBACH先生：\n听着，斯科特。这　10:43:35\n15　显然不是针对个人。我最希望的　10:43:38\n16　就是继续往下进行，但我只是想让　10:43:40\n17　证人确认她三年前宣誓作出的陈述。　10:43:44\n18　ROSEN先生：\n好。这与　10:43:51\n19　今天30(b)(6)证言录取的议题有什么关联？　10:43:53\n20　HARBACH先生：\n哦，因为这完全　10:43:56\n21　属于她作为Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）总裁的　10:43:58\n22　工作职责。这百分之百属于　10:44:02\n23　我们在这里所讨论事项的范围。她已经告诉我们　10:44:05\n24　她拥有的所有头衔，而我正在了解　10:44:09\n25　她做什么。她还提交了一份宣誓书，称　10:44:13\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第91页，共280页\n\n1　她的工作职责就是我们已多次读到的内容，而现在　10:44:16\n\n2　她不愿回答。她不愿　10:44:20\n3　承认这一点；因此我不会再争辩，但这　10:44:23\n4　显然具有关联性。显然具有关联性。　10:44:27\n5　您可以指示她不要回答。您可以　10:44:30\n6　指示她不要回答任何提及　10:44:33\n7　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）的问题，如果您愿意。但我会留在　10:44:36\n8　这里，直到我了解该证人在签署这份宣誓书时　10:44:39\n9　心里想的是什么。　10:44:42\n10　ROSEN先生：\n嗯，我认为您已经——您　10:44:44\n11　已经基本上在记录中表明，　10:44:46\n12　您所追求的事项与这笔DIP贷款　10:44:50\n13　毫无关系。　10:44:52\n14　因此，我将指示证人不要　10:44:52\n15　回答这个问题。　10:44:55\n16　HARBACH先生：\n好的。我认为我们应当休息　10:44:56\n17　一会儿，因为除其他事项外，我需要　10:44:59\n18　去洗手间。　10:45:01\n19　所以，摄像师先生，我们能否休息十　10:45:03\n20　分钟。　10:45:06\n21　摄像师：\n我们现在停止　10:45:06\n22　记录。　10:45:08\n\n23　时间为10:45。　10:45:08\n24　（短暂休庭。）　10:45:10\n25　摄像师：\n我们恢复　11:00:21\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第92页，共280页\n\n记录。　11:00:23\n2　时间为11:00。　11:00:23\nHARBACH先生发问：　11:00:31\n4　问：\n王女士（Ms. Wang），休庭前我曾询问您　11:00:35\n有关证物4的问题，该证物是一份您于　11:00:37\n2018年5月签署的宣誓书。　11:00:43\n7　HARBACH先生：\n斯科特，我承认，我不　11:00:48\n记得我们停在哪里了，是否是您　11:00:51\n指示证人不要回答我的问题——　11:00:54\n任何有关此事的进一步问题。让我——让我　11:01:00\n先说一下，在您回答之前，如果您　11:01:04\n让我再问一两个——再提一两个问题，我就会　11:01:07\n继续往下进行。　11:01:13\n14　ROSEN先生：\n我对此表示感谢，是的。　11:01:14\n请——我此时将指示证人　11:01:18\n回答问题。　11:01:22\n17　HARBACH先生：\n好的。谢谢。　11:01:24\nHARBACH先生发问：　11:01:25\n19　问：\n那么，王女士，证物4是否仍在　11:01:25\n您面前？　11:01:30\n21　答：\n证物4？是的，先生。是的。　11:01:32\n22　问：\n好的。那么再次提醒您，这份　11:01:38\n宣誓书是在2018年5月签署的。　11:01:41\n24　我的问题是：2018年　11:01:45\n5月，作为Golden Spring　11:01:51\n第67页\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第93页，共280页\n\n1　(New York)的总裁，您是否为　11:01:57\n\n2　Kwok Ho Wan先生及其家人的利益担任管理人？　11:02:01\n3　答：\n是。　11:02:07\n4　按照我宣誓书中的措辞，是的。　11:02:13\n5　问：\n您是否记得，您所称的　11:02:16\n6　Kwok Ho Wan先生及其家人利益的管理人　11:02:45\n7　是什么意思？　11:02:49\n8　答：\n这份宣誓书中的措辞是由律师　10:42:51\n9　起草的，而据我理解，　11:02:57\n10　Golden Spring——按照Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的指示，　11:03:03\n11　Golden Spring，例如支付Ho Wan Kwok的　11:03:10\n12　生活方式开支等等；所以那是我的　11:03:17\n13　理解。　11:03:21\n14　问：\n那是您对自己职责的理解？　11:03:22\n15　因为那正是我的问题所问的内容。　11:03:27\n16　答：\n我作为Golden Spring总裁的职责，还是　11:03:31\n17　管理人的职责？　11:03:35\n18　问：\n嗯，您已经陈述，作为总裁，您　11:03:36\n19　担任Kwok　11:03:42\n20　Ho Wan先生利益的管理人。　11:03:46\n21　所以我在问，您　11:03:50\n22　刚才所描述的是否是您在2018年5月的职责。　11:03:54\n23　答：\n我是Golden Spring的总裁。我接受　11:04:01\n24　Qiang Guo先生的指示，并担任　11:04:05\n25　管理人——他父亲的管理人。　11:04:09\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第94页，共280页\n\n1　问：\n这从您开始在　11:04:13\n\n2　Golden Spring工作时起就是真的吗？　11:04:17\n3　答：\n哦，先生，从那一刻起——再说一次，您是在问　11:04:21\n4　时间，对吗？　11:04:25\n5　问：\n嗯，我是在问，您刚才　11:04:27\n6　所描述的作为管理人的职责，　11:04:31\n7　从一开始、从您首次　11:04:38\n8　在Golden Spring (New York)工作时起，是否就是如此？　11:04:40\n9　答：\n我开始为Golden Spring　11:04:42\n10　(New York)工作时，确实接受Qiang Guo先生的　11:04:52\n11　指示，按我所说，担任他　11:04:54\n12　父亲的管理人。　11:05:00\n13　问：\n那么，那应当是在　11:05:00\n14　2018年春季，您开始为Golden Spring　11:05:04\n15　(New York)工作时，对吗？　11:05:07\n16　答：\n正确，先生。　11:05:10\n17　问：\n在那段时间，例如2018年　11:05:11\n18　春季，您与Qiang Guo先生沟通的频率　11:05:16\n19　如何？　11:05:22\n20　答：\n我不记得，但我相信我们——我们　11:05:24\n21　按需要交谈。　11:05:29\n22　问：\n好的。一天一次？　11:05:30\n23　答：\n我不记得。　11:05:35\n24　问：\n好的。您是否记得您是否每周与　11:05:36\n25　他交谈一次？　11:05:39\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第95页，共280页\n\n1　答：\n我不记得。如我所说，我们只是按　11:05:43\n\n2　需要交谈。如果，您知道，我们需要交谈，我们就交谈。　11:05:47\n3　问：\n好的。　11:05:51\n4　答：\n我没有，比如说，计算过，是的。　11:05:52\n5　问：\n不。我理解。　11:05:54\n6　而且我并不是要您给出精确　11:05:56\n7　的计算。我只是想了解一下您与他交谈的　11:05:58\n8　频率。　11:06:02\n9　您与他交谈时，所指的　11:06:03\n10　Qiang Guo先生，您是通过电话交谈？当面交谈？　11:06:06\n11　两者都有？　11:06:12\n12　答：\n两者都有。　11:06:15\n13　问：\n好的。请稍等一下。抱歉　11:06:22\n14　耽搁了。　11:06:58\n15　您与　11:07:01\n16　Ho Wan Kwok先生在2018年春季为履行您　11:07:07\n17　所描述的职责而沟通的频率如何？　11:07:13\n18　答：\n我不记得。　11:07:17\n19　问：\n您是否曾与他沟通？　11:07:18\n20　答：\n是。　11:07:23\n21　我们确实沟通过。　11:07:26\n22　问：\n那是当面沟通吗？　11:07:27\n23　答：\n是。　11:07:31\n24　当面。　11:07:33\n25　问：\n好的。频率如何？　11:07:33\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第96页，共280页\n\n1　答：\n我不记得。　11:07:37\n\n2　问：\n好的。每周超过一次？　11:07:40\n3　答：\n先生，您是在问2018年，也就是　11:07:45\n\n4　我开始为Golden Spring工作的时候？　11:07:51\n5　问：\n是的。是的，女士。我是在问。　11:07:54\n6　答：\n哦，我不记得。　11:07:57\n7　问：\n好的。让我看看。　11:07:58\n8　HARBACH先生：\n哦，谢谢。　11:08:26\n9　HARBACH先生发问：　11:08:26\n10　问：\n我的同事提醒我，我本想问这个　11:08:28\n11　问题。　11:08:32\n12　当您开始在纽约市的Golden Spring　11:08:32\n13　(New York)工作时，您居住在哪里？　11:08:37\n14　我不是指——确切地址，而是您居住　11:08:41\n15　在哪里？　11:08:45\n16　ROSEN先生：\n异议。出于安全　11:08:47\n17　原因，王女士不愿提供　11:08:51\n18　住址。　11:08:54\n19　您说的是城市，还是——像城市这样　11:08:57\n20　概括的信息，还是地址？　11:09:00\n21　HARBACH先生：\n我会——我会尽量以　11:09:05\n22　避免这些担忧的方式提问，斯科特。　11:09:07\n23　ROSEN先生：\n谢谢。　11:09:11\n24　HARBACH先生发问：　11:09:12\n25　问：\n王女士，当您开始在　11:09:12\n\n案件22-50073　文书440-26　于05/25/22提交　于05/26/22 15:30:37录入　第97页，共280页\n\n1 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）于2018年在纽约市，11:09:15\n2 您是否与Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生居住在同一地点？11:09:24\n3\n4 答：我住在纽约。11:09:33\n5 问：您是否居住——再说一次，我不是在谈11:09:34\n6 现在。11:09:41\n7 我说的是2018年，当您开始11:09:41\n8 在Golden Spring (New York)工作时，您是否居住11:09:46\n9 在与Ho Wan Kwok先生相同的住所？11:09:51\n10 答：先生，您所说的“住所”是什么意思？您11:10:00\n11 是指——11:10:03\n12 问：一所房子。11:10:03\n13 答：是——11:10:04\n14 问：是房子吗？公寓吗？这11:10:05\n15 无关紧要。11:10:09\n16 您是否与Ho Wan Kwok先生住在同一个家中？11:10:12\n18 答：没有。11:10:12\n19 问：您是否曾去过——撤回。11:10:19\n20 您是否曾住在Sherry-Netherland（谢里-内瑟兰）十八层的11:10:22\n21 公寓内？11:10:29\n22 答：我去那里拜访过，先生。11:10:33\n23 问：可以。11:10:36\n24 我问的是您是否曾在那里居住过。11:10:40\n第72页\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第98页，共280页\n\n1　答：您所说的“居住”是什么意思？比如说，11:10:40\n\n2　我的——我的家？没有。11:10:45\n3　问：好的。您是否曾在那里停留超过——11:10:47\n4　HARBACH（哈巴赫）先生：Scott（斯科特），这是我最后11:10:52\n5　一个问题。11:10:54\n6　HARBACH先生提问：11:10:55\n7　问：您是否曾在那里停留超过11:10:55\n8　几周？11:10:58\n9　答：我不记得。11:10:59\n10　问：好的。现在我们能否转到——回到11:11:00\n11　证物1。11:11:20\n12　答：（证人照做。）11:11:22\n13　问：王女士，请在您打开后告诉我。11:11:28\n14　答：是的，我已打开。11:11:35\n15　问：好的。为帮助您11:11:36\n16　辨明位置，封面日期为2018年10月11日，该日11:11:44\n17　即本次证言录取之日。11:11:49\n18　好的？11:11:52\n19　答：是。11:11:54\n20　问：好。因此那大约是——11:11:54\n21　我不知道——您开始工作后六个月11:12:00\n22　在Golden Spring (New York)工作之后？11:12:03\n23　答：并且——是。差不多。11:12:11\n24　问：您说您于2018年春季开始工作；11:12:13\n25　所以大约是六个月。11:12:16\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第99页，共280页\n\n1　这样说公平吗？11:12:19\n\n2　答：是。11:12:20\n3　问：好的。那么请翻到第六十页。11:12:21\n4　答：（证人照做。）11:12:32\n5　问：再次，请看那些小页码。11:12:33\n6　请在您翻到后告诉我。11:12:45\n7　答：是。11:12:50\n8　问：好的。第六十页最上方有11:12:50\n9　一个——一个问题的结尾，随后是一个11:12:54\n10　从第二行开始的问题：11:12:57\n11　“问：您认识Mileson Kwok（迈尔森·郭）吗？”11:13:00\n12　您的回答是：11:13:04\n13　“答：是。”11:13:05\n14　问题是：11:13:06\n15　“问：他是Kwok先生的儿子吗？11:13:06\n16　“答：是。11:13:09\n17　“问：您是否曾与他11:13:11\n18　当面见过？11:13:12\n19　“答：是。11:13:13\n20　“问：他在11:13:14\n21　Golden Spring是否担任任何职务？11:13:17\n22　“答：我不知道。11:13:19\n23　“问：您从未就任何Golden Spring业务11:13:22\n24　与他有过互动？11:13:24\n25　“答：没有。”11:13:28\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第100页，共280页\n\n1　我读得对吗？11:13:36\n\n2　答：是。11:13:38\n3　问：您能否解释一下——首先，11:13:39\n4　那是真的吗？11:13:46\n5　答：嗯——11:13:52\n6　问：让我们逐一——让我们逐一11:13:53\n7　过一遍，以便完全清楚。第一个11:13:57\n8　问题：11:14:01\n9　“问：您认识Mileson Kwong（迈尔森·郭）吗？”11:14:01\n10　截至2018年10月11日，您11:14:09\n11　认识Mileson Kwok，这是真的吗？11:14:11\n12　答：我在2018年时有一个错误的印象。11:14:13\n13　比如，我当时认为Mileson也和Kwok一起用。11:14:17\n14　原因是——11:14:22\n15　问：我——11:14:22\n16　答：——我——11:14:24\n17　问：——将要——11:14:24\n18　答：——作证——11:14:24\n19　问：——打断。11:14:24\n20　答：——现在——11:14:25\n21　问：是。11:14:25\n22　答：——Qiang Guo（郭强）先生纠正了我。11:14:27\n23　他在——我忘了是什么时候——之后特意纠正了我。他11:14:30\n24　纠正我说，他一直使用11:14:33\n25　Mileson Kwok；所以我当时在2018年的证言11:14:37\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第101页，共280页\n\n1　是准确的。11:14:41\n\n2　问：好的。11:14:42\n3　答：我现在的证言，在我被11:14:43\n4　纠正后，也是准确的，先生。11:14:45\n5　问：我明白了。11:14:48\n6　所以，该——该纠正涉及的是他的11:14:49\n7　名字，对吗？11:14:51\n8　答：是。11:14:52\n9　Qiang Guo先生的名字。11:14:53\n10　问：好的。11:14:55\n11　答：这就是我坚持称他为11:14:56\n12　Qiang Guo先生的原因，对吗？11:15:00\n13　所以这是准确的——您知道，他的11:15:00\n14　正式姓名。11:15:04\n15　问：明白。11:15:04\n16　答：这对我更合适，是的。11:15:05\n17　HARBACH先生：对于打断记录员，我表示歉意。11:15:07\n18　我会尽量做得更好。11:15:10\n19　HARBACH先生提问：11:15:13\n20　问：证言记录中的下一个问题11:15:13\n21　是：11:15:16\n22　“问：他是Kwok先生的儿子吗？11:15:17\n23　“答：是。”11:15:20\n24　因此，无论是11:15:22\n25　Mileson Kwok还是Qiang Guo，都不存在疑问。11:15:25\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第102页，共280页\n\n1　我们说的是Kwok Ho Wan先生的儿子；11:15:27\n\n2　对吗？11:15:34\n3　答：对。11:15:34\n4　问：而Ho Wan Kwok先生有且仅有一名11:15:35\n5　儿子；对吗？11:15:40\n6　答：对。11:15:42\n7　问：好的。下一个问题：11:15:43\n8　“问：您是否曾见过他”——11:15:47\n9　也就是我们称为Qiang Guo的人。11:15:51\n10　——“当面？”11:15:54\n11　您的回答是：11:15:56\n12　“答：是。”11:15:58\n13　截至2018年10月11日，您曾与Qiang Guo11:16:01\n14　当面见过，这是真的吗？11:16:05\n15　答：是。11:16:07\n16　问：好的。下一个问题：11:16:07\n17　“问：他，Qiang Guo，是否在11:16:17\n18　Golden Spring担任任何职务？”11:16:17\n19　您的回答是您不知道。11:16:19\n20　现在，这是您说您开始在Golden Spring工作六个月后。11:16:22\n21　在您先前声称与Qiang Guo先生就11:16:25\n22　您的角色和职责进行谈话数月之后。11:16:31\n23　11:16:35\n24　那么，为什么在您开始于Golden Spring工作六个月后，11:16:39\n25　您说您不知道11:16:42\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第103页，共280页\n\n1　他是否担任任何职务？11:16:46\n\n2　答：那是在——11:16:50\n3　问：那不也是——那不也是事实，即您11:16:52\n4　不知道？11:16:55\n5　答：那么，先生，您先问完问题；这样11:17:02\n6　我可以开始回答，还是您还有更多问题，先生？我会11:17:06\n7　等到您问完。11:17:09\n8　问：您——感谢您等待。11:17:11\n9　如果您回答我的问题，您可以回答。11:17:12\n10　问题是，截至11:17:15\n11　2018年10月11日，您不知道11:17:19\n12　Qiang Guo是否在Golden Spring担任任何职务，这是真的吗？这就是11:17:27\n13　问题。11:17:30\n14　答：回到2018年，当时按我的11:17:33\n15　理解，职务是指雇员或雇员身份；11:17:38\n16　所以当时我不知道他是不是雇员。11:17:43\n17　但我确实知道他是老板。他是所有者。11:17:47\n18　我不知道他是否是雇员，因为他当时主要负责Golden Spring大部分11:17:51\n19　工作。11:17:54\n20　2018年，我只是按需要为他工作并与他合作。11:18:00\n21　11:18:05\n22　问：您在2018年没有说他是老板？在您声称开始与他共事11:18:07\n23　六个月后，您没有说他是老板，11:18:13\n24　对吗？11:18:16\n25　答：没有人问我他是不是老板。11:18:19\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第104页，共280页\n\n1　11:18:24\n\n2　问：有人问您他是否担任任何职务？11:18:24\n3　答：任何职务，按我在2018年的理解，11:18:27\n4　是指作为雇员。11:18:32\n5　问：好的。下一个问题怎么样：11:18:33\n6　“问：您从未就任何Golden Spring11:18:37\n7　业务11:18:39\n8　与他有过互动？”11:18:43\n9　这是向您提出的问题，11:18:46\n10　您给出的回答是：11:18:48\n11　“答：没有。”11:18:51\n12　我现在要问您的是，这是否11:18:52\n13　属实——截至2018年10月11日，您11:18:55\n14　未曾就任何Golden Spring业务与Qiang Guo11:19:01\n15　有过互动？这是真的还是假的？11:19:08\n16　答：这是一个正确答案，因为在2018年，11:19:13\n17　Qiang Guo先生是负责经营11:19:19\n18　Golden Spring的主要人员；所以我不理解——再次，11:19:22\n19　英语不是我的母语——“互动”是什么意思。11:19:29\n20　按我的理解，当时他在经营公司。11:19:33\n21　我只是按他的需要为他工作。这是11:19:35\n22　我的理解；所以——这是正确的。11:19:38\n23　问：对。11:19:41\n24　而且您五分钟前告诉我，您曾与他联系——您不记得有多11:19:41\n25　频繁——而且那是——我相信您说11:19:44\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第105页，共280页\n\n1　既有电话联系，也有当面联系。11:19:47\n\n2　您——在您看来，那不算互动吗？11:19:51\n3　11:19:59\n4　11:20:02\n5　答：就Golden Spring业务与他互动。11:20:03\n6　我的意思是，他和我，我们多年来也是朋友；所以当您五11:20:06\n7　分钟前问我时，我的意思是，我们确实会按需要11:20:11\n8　见面和交谈。11:20:14\n9　但回到2018年的问题，它问的是11:20:18\n10　就任何Golden Spring业务11:20:23\n11　与他互动，而我的证言是真实的。11:20:26\n12　当时他负责所有Golden Spring业务。11:20:29\n13　而且我知道我是Golden Spring的一部分，11:20:32\n14　但是，实际上，他——他是经营11:20:36\n15　业务的人。11:20:39\n16　问：王女士，事实上，您没有与Qiang Guo互动，至少在11:20:40\n17　2018年没有就Golden Spring业务与他互动，11:20:46\n18　这是真的吗？11:20:51\n19　答：先生，您能否重新表述一下您的问题？11:20:56\n20　问：事实上，在2018年，您11:21:01\n21　完全没有就Golden Spring所做的任何事情11:21:05\n22　与Qiang Guo先生互动，11:21:10\n23　这才是事实，对吗？11:21:14\n24　答：我不记得了。时间太久了，11:21:15\n25　而且该证言录取是在——我不认为11:21:21\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第106页，共280页\n\n1　我当时有口译员。11:21:25\n\n2　问：当您开始在11:21:27\n3　Golden Spring (New York)工作时，其老板11:21:30\n4　不是Qiang Guo，而是Ho Wan Kwok先生，这是真的吗？11:21:32\n5　11:21:37\n6　答：Golden Spring (New York)的老板一直是11:21:38\n7　Qiang Guo先生。11:21:43\n8　问：您一直是Ho Wan Kwok先生的长期11:21:44\n9　雇员，这是真的吗？11:21:53\n10　答：我一直为Qiang Guo先生本人11:22:00\n11　及其家人工作。11:22:04\n12　问：是的。我——我不是在问11:22:06\n13　Qiang Guo先生。我再问一遍这个问题。11:22:08\n14　您是Ho Wan Kwok先生的长期11:22:13\n15　雇员，这是真的吗？11:22:18\n16　答：我不这么认为。Ho Wan Kwok先生，他11:22:23\n17　从未付给我报酬，也从未付给我任何报酬。11:22:25\n18　问：他是否告诉您——11:22:29\n19　答：所以我一直为Qiang Guo先生及其11:22:31\n20　业务工作。11:22:35\n21　问：Ho Wan Kwok先生是否曾告诉您该做什么？11:22:35\n22　11:22:37\n23　答：您所说的“曾告诉我该做什么”是什么意思——如果11:22:38\n24　他们请我帮忙，我当然会向他提供帮助。11:22:42\n25　11:22:45\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第107页，共280页\n\n1 问：Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生是否曾向你作出指示？11:22:46\n\n3 答：他要求支持和帮助，而我一直愿意为他这样做。11:22:49\n\n5 问：他是否曾要求你去买咖啡？11:22:57\n\n7 答：我不记得。11:23:00\n\n8 你是什么意思？11:23:01\n\n9 问：你不记得Ho Wan Kwok先生是否曾要求你去买咖啡？11:23:05\n\n11 答：先生，我是说，我不记得。就是，比如说，为什么我应该记得有人要求我去买咖啡；对吧？11:23:11\n\n14 问：嗯，我不知道。也许他曾数百次要求你去买咖啡。也许他从未这样做过。我所能做的只是提出这个问题。你是否记得——11:23:19\n\n18 答：我不记得那件事。11:23:28\n\n19 问：——Ho Wan Kwok先生是否曾要求你去买咖啡？11:23:29\n\n21 答：我不记得。11:23:34\n\n22 问：好的。那么为他翻译某些东西呢，指的是Ho Wan Kwok先生？你是否曾为他这样做过？11:23:34\n\n25 答：是的，我做过。11:23:41\n\n第 82 页\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 108 页，共 280 页\n\n1 问：频率如何？11:23:42\n\n2 答：我不记得。11:23:44\n\n3 问：不止一次？11:23:48\n\n4 答：是。11:23:50\n\n5 不止一次。11:23:51\n\n6 问：好的。你上一次为Ho Wan Kwok先生翻译某些东西是在何时？11:23:52\n\n8 答：我不记得。11:23:57\n\n9 问：好的。我们来看——11:24:01\n\n10 HARBACH先生：331是什么？我看不见。那是——11:24:08\n\n12 HARBACH先生继续询问：11:24:13\n\n13 问：好的。请看证物 2。11:24:13\n\n14 答：（证人照做。）11:24:15\n\n15 问：那么我问你——王女士（Ms. Wang），你有证物 2 吗？11:24:23\n\n17 答：有。11:24:27\n\n18 问：好的。请你翻到第 48 页。11:24:27\n\n20 答：（证人照做。）11:24:34\n\n21 问：到那里时告诉我。11:24:46\n\n22 答：我正在找，先生。第 48 页。11:24:50\n\n23 问：是，女士。11:24:53\n\n24 答：是。11:24:56\n\n25 我到了。11:24:56\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 109 页，共 280 页\n\n1 问：好的。因此，第 48 页有一段很长的回答，从第 12 行到第 23 行。我不会通读全部内容，但我想请你注意该回答的后半部分。内容是：11:24:57\n\n6 “他们被中国共产党逮捕并关进监狱。他的许多家庭成员，包括他的儿子、女儿、侄女、侄子、嫂子、兄弟，都无缘无故地受到威胁、被绑架并被关进监狱，直到现在，包括他所有的、比如说长期雇员，就像我一样。”11:25:19\n\n15 所以，你这里谈论的是Ho Wan Kwok先生；对吗？11:25:50\n\n17 答：我可以从第 12 句读到第 23 句吗？11:25:58\n\n19 问：当然可以。慢慢来，自己阅读，读完后告诉我。11:26:05\n\n21 答：谢谢。11:26:11\n\n22 好的。我读完了，先生。11:27:12\n\n23 问：谢谢。11:27:15\n\n24 我的问题是，你在该回答中谈论的、你称为“他”和“他的”的人，是Ho Wan Kwok先生；对吗？11:27:15\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 110 页，共 280 页\n\n1 ——是Ho Wan Kwok先生；对吗？11:27:22\n\n2 答：从措辞来看，当然，这是由——由庭审记录员记录的。比如，从措辞来看，似乎是的。但我所指的——我是从郭家开始说起的，不只是他的直系家庭成员，而是整个郭家。11:27:28\n\n8 问：是。11:27:53\n\n9 而且你在第 2 行说：11:27:54\n\n10 “Kwok先生，Miles Kwok（郭文贵），他是整个家族的第七个儿子。”11:27:56\n\n12 你说的是债务人Kwok Ho Wan；对吗？11:28:07\n\n14 答：对。11:28:12\n\n15 问：好的。然后你描述了他的所有亲属以及发生在他们身上的可怕事情。然后你说，遭遇这些事情的人包括他所有的——即Kwok Ho Wan先生——所有长期雇员，就像我一样；所以这就是我五分钟前提出问题的依据。11:28:12\n\n22 你是Ho Wan Kwok先生的长期雇员，这是否属实？是或不是？11:28:51\n\n24 答：我是郭家的长期雇员。我的意思是，我不清楚记载在这里的内容。显然，我从未进过监狱。我受到过威胁，但我没有被绑架或关进监狱。我认为这仍然要归咎于我当时蹩脚的英语。当我说长期雇员时，我真正的——我的意思是郭家。我是郭家的长期雇员。11:29:01\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 111 页，共 280 页\n\n7 问：谁？11:29:36\n\n8 答：Ho Wan Kwok先生从未亲自雇用我。11:29:37\n\n10 问：嗯，谁——谁——首先，既然你提到这一点，雇用你为郭家工作的那个人是谁？11:29:43\n\n13 答：是一家公司。是一家名为Pangu（盘古）的公司，P-a-n-g-u。Beijing Pangu（北京盘古）。11:29:51\n\n15 问：是。11:29:58\n\n16 当你受雇为郭家工作时，Beijing Pangu的老板是谁？11:29:59\n\n18 答：你是指老板，比如所有者？11:30:07\n\n19 问：嗯，你可以赋予“老板”任何你想要的含义，王女士，但你似乎明白Qiang Guo（郭强）是Golden Spring（黄金泉）的老板；所以你告诉我。11:30:11\n\n23 答：哦，明白。11:30:21\n\n24 所以Beijing Pangu由郭家拥有。11:30:22\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 112 页，共 280 页\n\n1 问：好的。那么是谁——11:30:29\n\n2 HARBACH先生：而且——而且，Scott，我不会在这里停留太久，但这是她提起的。11:30:32\n\n4 HARBACH先生继续询问：11:30:37\n\n5 问：王女士，最开始是谁——当你刚开始为郭家工作时，是谁告诉你已被雇用？是哪一个人？11:30:38\n\n9 答：是人力资源部门通知我的，我不记得了。那是在 20——2008 年。我不记得了。但人力资源部门告知我已被雇用。11:30:49\n\n13 问：请允许我就早先的话题稍微回溯一下，我对此表示歉意。我会尽力说得清楚且高效。11:31:07\n\n16 在证物 4，也就是你的宣誓书中，你记得——我曾就担任Ho Wan Kwok先生利益的管理人意味着什么，向你提出了几个问题？你跟得上吗？11:31:32\n\n20 答：是。11:31:58\n\n21 问：好的。我之所以回到这个问题，是因为我忽略了向你指出另一件事。那就是证物 1；所以请你翻到证物 1。11:31:58\n\n25 答：（证人照做。）11:32:17\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 113 页，共 280 页\n\n1 所以不是证物 2？您要我回到证物 1，先生；对吗？11:32:23\n\n3 问：是，女士。11:32:29\n\n4 答：（证人照做。）11:32:32\n\n5 我到了。11:32:33\n\n6 问：好的。谢谢。11:32:34\n\n7 现在，请你在小页面上向前滚动到第 46 页。11:32:35\n\n9 答：（证人照做。）11:32:42\n\n10 是。11:32:52\n\n11 问：好的。很好。11:32:53\n\n12 现在，关于“管理人”一词的含义，如果你看第 46 页第 20 行，你会看到一个问题：11:32:54\n\n15 “问题：我问你是否担任Kwok先生——”11:33:11\n\n18 那就是Ho Wan Kwok——“利益的管理人。”11:33:18\n\n19 而你的回答是：11:33:22\n\n20 “回答：是。”11:33:24\n\n21 然后有人问你：11:33:25\n\n22 “问题：那是什么意思？”11:33:27\n\n23 而你说：11:33:30\n\n24 “回答：翻译，”逗号，11:33:31\n\n25 “助手。”11:33:33\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 114 页，共 280 页\n\n1 你在那里看到了吗？11:33:36\n\n2 答：是。11:33:37\n\n3 问：现在，你已经告诉我们，你——你实际上确实曾为Kwok先生——Ho Wan Kwok先生做过一些翻译；对吗？11:33:38\n\n6 答：我为他翻译——曾为他翻译过，是。11:33:48\n\n8 问：是。11:33:53\n\n9 而且，如果——你还说过——那里还说你是他的助手。这是真的吗？11:33:53\n\n12 答：我的意思是，我——我作证说，我是Ho Wan Kwok先生利益的管理人，并且我按照Qiang Guo先生的指示帮助他，包括，比如说，帮助他翻译，让他理解，包括，比如说，根据他的需要协助他——对吧？——支持他。这并不意味着我有——我有一个叫作“助手”的职务；如果这是你所要找的。11:34:03\n\n19 问：嗯——11:34:32\n\n20 答：我的意思是，我帮助他理解语言，并按照他儿子的指示，在他需要时支持他。11:34:33\n\n23 问：好的。那么，除了翻译工作之外，当你说“协助”是指在需要时支持他，这是什么意思？你在 2018 年为他做过哪些事情？11:34:41\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 115 页，共 280 页\n\n1 你在 2018 年为他做过哪些事情？11:34:51\n\n2 ROSEN先生：异议。你能——你能澄清一下，当你使用“你”这个词时，你是指Golden Spring，还是指证人本人？11:34:57\n\n6 HARBACH先生：这很合理，Scott。我相信，当她在 2018 年接受宣誓作证时，她既是以Golden Spring代表人的身份，也以个人身份作证；所以她必须为我澄清这一点。11:35:06\n\n12 ROSEN先生：你可以回答。11:35:26\n\n13 证人：我不记得。11:35:29\n\n14 HARBACH先生继续询问：11:35:29\n\n15 问：好的。无论如何，你作为Ho Wan Kwok先生利益管理人的角色，按照你的说法，是你以Golden Spring (New York) Limited（黄金泉〈纽约〉有限公司）总裁的身份履行的；对吗？11:35:31\n\n19 答：我在 2018 年受Qiang Guo先生请求提供帮助；这是对的。11:35:52\n\n21 问：好的。嗯，我想确保你理解我的问题，因为既然Rosen先生有益地提出了身份问题，我想确保我们把这件事弄准确。11:36:01\n\n25 好吗？11:36:12\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交 于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记 第 116 页，共 280 页\n\n1 所以，请记住我们正在谈论的是——11:36:13\n\n2　作为 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）利益管理人意味着什么　11:36:18\n3　——这正是我们正在讨论的　11:36:23\n4　内容——我要请您回看证物1——　11:36:26\n5　更正。抱歉，是证物4。　11:36:31\n6　答：那么是证物4，先生；对吗？我们说的是　11:36:36\n7　哪一份？第四份？　11:36:41\n8　问：是的，女士。　11:36:42\n9　第四份。　11:36:46\n10　答：我找到了。　11:36:48\n11　问：而且，您已经告诉我们，您签署并宣誓确认该宣誓书　11:36:49\n12　真实且　11:36:53\n13　正确；该宣誓书称，您担任　11:36:57\n14　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）及其家人利益的管理人，　11:37:02\n15　是以您担任 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）总裁的　11:37:07\n16　身份；对吗？　11:37:14\n17　答：我是由 Golden Spring (New York) 雇用的，　11:37:23\n18　我听从 Golden Spring　11:37:28\n19　(New York) 所有人的指示。我可以为他的　11:37:32\n20　家人提供支持，包括他的父亲。这就是　11:37:36\n21　我对这里所称身份的理解。　11:37:40\n22　问：而且——而且您刚才所述的内容，　11:37:43\n23　依您所言，是您以 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 总裁　11:37:45\n24　身份所做的；　11:37:50\n25　对吗？　11:37:54\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 117 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我不明白，先生。我的意思是，身份，　11:37:54\n\n2　我是随时可用的。我在这里。我按照　11:38:02\n3　Qiang Guo（郭强）先生要求我做的那样提供支持。这是我　11:38:05\n4　对身份的理解。如果您所说的是那种　11:38:08\n5　身份，那就是同一回事，是的。　11:38:10\n6　问：好的，我听到了。　11:38:13\n7　我只是想确认，那是　11:38:15\n8　依您所言，您作为　11:38:19\n9　Golden Spring (New York) Limited 总裁应当做的事情，即　11:38:23\n10　为 Kwok Ho Wan（郭文贵）先生翻译并满足他的　11:38:30\n11　个人需要；对吗？您是　11:38:34\n12　这个意思吗？　11:38:38\n13　ROSEN（罗森）先生：异议。　11:38:39\n14　您——您可以回答。　11:38:40\n15　证人：让我再重复一遍。　11:38:44\n16　我作为 Golden Spring　11:38:46\n17　(New York) 总裁的身份，是按照公司所有人　11:38:49\n18　向我提出的需求工作，包括协助他的父亲、　11:38:55\n19　为他的父亲翻译，以及包括我今天在这里　11:38:58\n20　接受宣誓证言；对吗？　11:39:02\n21　还有签署宣誓书。包括很多　11:39:05\n22　事情，我的意思是，如果我可以这么说，不仅仅如您刚才　11:39:08\n23　试图将我描述为助理或翻译，　11:39:12\n24　如果那对您有帮助的话，先生。　11:39:17\n25　///　\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 118 页，共 280 页\n\n11　: 3\n\n1　HARBACH（哈巴赫）先生询问：　11:39:18\n\n2　问：好的，翻译和助理，再次说明，　11:39:18\n3　Wang（王）女士，那是您说的，不是我说的。我只是　11:39:22\n4　从一份庭审记录中向您念出这些话。因此，我所　11:39:25\n5　做的一切，只是试图了解您担任　11:39:28\n6　Golden Spring (New York) Limited 总裁的工作是什么。而且您　11:39:31\n7　已经——我认为，您已经向我们解释了其中一部分。　11:39:34\n8　我只是试图了解助理　11:39:38\n9　是什么意思。　11:39:45\n10　除了担任翻译外，您还能告诉我　11:39:53\n11　更多相关情况吗？　11:39:57\n12　答：关于什么，先生？　11:39:58\n13　问：关于您说您是　11:39:59\n14　Kwok Ho Wan 的助理时所指的含义。　11:40:04\n15　答：那是我——那是——那并不是，　11:40:09\n16　我的意思是，用我的语言来说。我的意思是，我仍然不——　11:40:13\n17　我在那样称呼时，这不是我的母语，　11:40:19\n18　意思是我提供了那种支持和服务。　11:40:23\n19　我没有一个叫作翻译或助理的职务。　11:40:26\n20　显然——　11:40:31\n21　问：哪一个——　11:40:31\n22　答：——我没有那个职务，是的；所以我提供了那种　11:40:32\n23　支持。　11:40:33\n24　问：好的。　11:40:33\n25　答：这就是我的意思，如果这　11:40:34\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 119 页，共 280 页\n\n1　有帮助的话。　11:40:37\n2　问：明白。　11:40:37\n3　请告诉我，您刚才所说的　11:40:38\n4　支持是什么意思。　11:40:40\n5　除了翻译以外，还有什么？　11:40:42\n6　答：例如，我现在正在这宗　11:40:44\n7　破产案中接受宣誓证言。　11:40:51\n8　问：好的。　11:40:53\n9　答：这是按照 Qiang Guo 先生的指示；　11:40:53\n10　对吗？　11:40:57\n11　所以……　11:40:57\n12　问：您的证言是否——我认为这并非　11:40:58\n13　您所说的意思，但我还是要问，因为　11:41:00\n14　从您的话中作出这样的推论是合理的。　11:41:03\n15　您今天的证言是否是为了支持　11:41:06\n16　Ho Wan Kwok 先生？　11:41:08\n17　ROSEN先生：异议。　11:41:11\n18　您可以回答。　11:41:14\n19　证人：我是在作证——我今天作证　11:41:15\n20　是为了一个破产案，就像——我相信议题　11:41:19\n21　是关于 DIP 贷款；对吗？　11:41:24\n22　HARBACH先生询问：　11:41:27\n23　问：我很希望谈到那个问题，但我们——　11:41:27\n24　我们——好吧，让我再问一次。　11:41:29\n25　我理解您并不是　11:41:32\n第 94 页\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 120 页，共 280 页\n\n1　说助理是您的职务。　11:41:36\n\n2　我理解这一点。我理解您的职务是　11:41:39\n3　我现在已经多次列举的 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的　11:41:42\n4　所有那些职务。而且我还　11:41:46\n5　理解，依您所言，您以总裁身份　11:41:50\n6　担任 Ho Wan Kwok 先生及其家人利益的　11:41:54\n7　管理人。　11:41:58\n8　在一次宣誓证言中，曾有人问您　11:42:04\n9　担任管理人是什么意思，您说　11:42:07\n10　是翻译和助理。现在，我们都知道　11:42:12\n11　翻译是什么，那很清楚。显然，　11:42:18\n12　您为 Kwok 先生提供了该项服务。　11:42:21\n13　Wang女士，我所试图了解的一切，　11:42:24\n14　是您还为他做了什么，而截至目前，您所说的唯一事情　11:42:27\n15　是于本次宣誓证言中作证。　11:42:31\n16　还有其他事情吗？　11:42:33\n17　答：有。　11:42:37\n18　ROSEN先生：异议。　11:42:38\n19　您可以回答。　11:42:40\n20　证人：有。　11:42:42\n21　HARBACH先生询问：　11:42:43\n22　问：好的。还有什么？　11:42:44\n23　答：例如，显然，Qiang Guo 先生　11:42:47\n24　指示 Golden Spring 支付他父亲的，例如，　11:42:54\n25　食物、衣服，以及，例如，包括这个——他们称之为　11:43:01\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 121 页，共 280 页\n\n1　生活方式——我的意思是，照顾他的父亲。　11:43:10\n\n2　问：他何时向您作出该指示？　11:43:13\n3　答：哦，我不记得了。应该是——很久　11:43:16\n4　以前。我的意思是，儿子照顾父亲。　11:43:22\n5　我的意思是，这对我而言有点自然，所以　11:43:25\n6　问：好的，我不会争论——争论　11:43:28\n7　这是否自然。　11:43:32\n8　我唯一的问题是，您刚才说——　11:43:34\n9　Qiang Guo 先生向您作出了您刚才　11:43:39\n10　所复述的指示。　11:43:43\n11　我的问题是何时？您说很久　11:43:45\n12　以前？多久以前？　11:43:48\n13　答：我不记得了。　11:43:51\n14　问：一个月以前以上？　11:43:52\n15　答：应该比一个月以前更久。　11:43:57\n16　问：好的。截至您于 2018 年 10 月接受宣誓证言时，　11:44:00\n17　他是否已经向您作出该指示？　11:44:03\n18　答：我不记得了。　11:44:08\n19　问：截至您于 2019 年 5 月在审判中作证时，　11:44:08\n20　他是否已经向您作出该指示？　11:44:12\n21　答：我不记得了。　11:44:17\n22　问：这不是有可能吗？　11:44:18\n23　答：我不记得了。　11:44:23\n24　问：好的，他是否在　11:44:24\n25　2020 年的某个时候向您作出了该指示？　11:44:33\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 122 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我确实不记得。　11:44:35\n\n2　问：如您刚才所说，Golden Spring (New York) 已经支付　11:44:40\n3　Kwok 先生生活方式开支多久了？　11:44:57\n4　答：多久？我相信自从我被任命以来。　11:45:03\n5　我的意思是，我不记得很清楚。我不记得。但是　11:45:13\n6　很久了。　11:45:17\n7　问：好的。您刚才说了两件事。您　11:45:19\n8　说您相信自从您被任命以来，并且您　11:45:22\n9　说您不记得；所以我——我必须　11:45:25\n10　请您告诉我究竟是哪一种。　11:45:29\n11　答：我不记得。而且我不应当推测　11:45:33\n12　或猜测，因为在我被任命时，正如　11:45:37\n13　我几分钟前作证时所说的，那是真的，Qiang Guo 先生正在　11:45:42\n14　经营和管理他的　11:45:46\n15　业务；所以，这就是我将答案更正为　11:45:50\n16　我不记得的原因，因为我并非亲自支付那些费用。　11:45:53\n17　我不记得答案。　11:45:59\n18　问：明白。　11:46:00\n19　您作为 Golden Spring 的　11:46:01\n20　总裁、秘书、财务主管和董事，　11:46:13\n21　在确保　11:46:18\n22　Kwok 先生——Ho Wan Kwok 先生的生活方式需要　11:46:24\n23　获得支付方面，您承担什么角色？　11:46:29\n24　答：抱歉，先生。　11:46:31\n25　您能否重复一下您的问题？　11:46:33\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 123 页，共 280 页\n\n)\n\n1　问：可以，女士。　11:46:35\n\n2　作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的总裁、秘书、财务主管及　11:46:36\n3　董事，您在确保 Ho Wan Kwok 先生的　11:46:42\n4　生活方式需要　11:46:47\n5　获得支付方面，承担什么角色？　11:46:53\n6　答：我确保方面承担什么角色？我的意思是，抱歉。　11:46:55\n7　那——那就是您　11:47:05\n8　所问的问题；对吗？　11:47:06\n9　问：是的，女士。　11:47:08\n10　我会再用英语问一次，　11:47:08\n11　然后我们可能需要请 Johnston（约翰斯顿）女士协助。　11:47:11\n12　答：好的，请。　11:47:15\n13　我也有同样的感觉。　11:47:16\n14　问：没关系。我再问一次。　11:47:17\n15　您已陈述，Qiang Guo 先生指示您　11:47:21\n16　照顾他的父亲，或多或少是这个意思。　11:47:25\n17　您不记得他确切何时向您作出　11:47:35\n18　该指示，但那是在很久以前。　11:47:37\n19　截至目前，我理解正确吗？　11:47:41\n20　答：是。　11:47:43\n21　问：好的。我现在问的是，您作为　11:47:47\n22　总裁，以及所有那些其他职务的担任者，　11:48:00\n23　在 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 中，您采取了什么措施　11:48:03\n24　以确保 Ho Wan Kwok 先生及其生活方式需要　11:48:13\n25　得到照顾？您理解这个问题吗？　11:48:20\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 124 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我相信我理解。　11:48:27\n\n2　问：好的。那么答案是什么？　11:48:29\n\n3　答：例如，我就资金问题与 Qiang Guo 先生沟通，　11:48:34\n\n4　包括这次宣誓证言。　11:48:42\n\n5　他处理该请求，然后确保　11:48:52\n\n6　有资金可用于照顾他的父亲。　11:49:01\n\n7　问：我们马上——我们马上会谈到　11:49:04\n8　资金。但您先前提到　11:49:10\n9　生活方式需要，例如衣物、食物、　11:49:14\n10　交通——基本生活所需。　11:49:22\n11　作为 Golden Spring (New York)　11:49:29\n12　Limited 的总裁，您是否参与支付或提供　11:49:31\n13　Ho Wan Kwok 先生的那些费用？　11:49:39\n14　答：是。　11:49:45\n15　问：请告诉我您做了什么。　11:49:46\n16　答：例如，我会审核账单并核实——　11:49:52\n17　如有任何需要核实之处——并处理　11:50:03\n18　衣物款项的支付。　11:50:07\n19　问：什么类型的账单？　11:50:08\n20　答：例如，衣物。比如食物——杂货食品。　11:50:11\n21　问：而且——而且这些是信用卡账单，还是　11:50:19\n22　供应商直接出具的收据，或者是什么？　11:50:21\n23　答：我相信两者都有。　11:50:26\n24　问：好的。　11:50:28\n25　答：是混合的。　11:50:29\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 录入，第 125 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：您从谁那里收到这些？　11:50:31\n\n答：\n您指的是哪一张账单，先生？\n\n问：\n上述任何一张。\n\n答：\n我是说，其中一些是通过银行卡支付的。其中一些是我们从——从供应商那里收到的。\n\n问：\n好的。您直接从 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生那里收到多少张这类账单？\n\n答：\n直接收到？我不记得了。\n\n问：\n对于您审查的、用于支付 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生生活费用的任何支出，您如何得知或如您所说如何核实其中任何一项实际上是他的？\n\n答：\n我是说，Qiang Guo（郭强）先生要求 Golden Spring（“金泉”）照料他的父母双方；所以，我是说，只有在例如明确说明这是他父亲的衣服时，我们显然才会据此核实。比如——\n\n问：\n还有——\n\n答：\n——杂货账单，我认为那更多是供母亲及其他人共同使用的。\n\n问：\n好的。而且，第一，您如何知道所购买的是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的衣服？您如何核实这一点？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 126 of 280\n\n答：\n我直接向供应商核实。\n\n问：\n而且——嗯。所以您——您会询问供应商，该衣物是否由 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生购买？\n\n答：\n是的。因为男装和女装相当明显，对吧？但我确实需要核实，是的。\n\n问：\n是的。我明白男装和女装之间的区别。那么，是否可以说，任何——任何——任何明显用于购买男装的收费，您都假定是 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的；而任何用于购买女装的收费，您都假定是他妻子的？\n\n答：\n我不作假定。我是说，我必须核实，因为我需要向公司所有人汇报资金情况，对吧？——清楚地汇报财务情况——\n\n问：\n当然。\n\n答：\n——所以我会核实。\n\n问：\n当然。\n\n答：\n所以我会核实。\n\n问：\n那么——您——您是否将审查任何信用卡账单作为该程序的一部分？\n\n答：\n有时。\n\n问：\n好的。当您审——当您审查一张信用卡账单时，假设上面有一项收费，呃，我不知道——一项住宿酒店的费用。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 127 of 280\n\n就以此为例。您如何核实是谁进行了该项消费？\n\n答：\n比如，您是指酒店，对吧？举个例子。\n\n问：\n我正是以此为例。\n\n答：\n如果是酒店，我们 Golden Spring（“金泉”）显然会打电话给酒店核实。\n\n问：\n核实该项消费已经发生？\n\n答：\n是。这是内部——我是说——审计的一部分。这是正常的。\n\n问：\n好的。那么，如何弄清是谁使用了该信用卡？您会如何做？\n\n答：\n您——先生，我不明白您的问题。谁使用了信用卡？您是指 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生如何使用信用卡，对吧？\n\n问：\n可以。那——那——那是一种可能性，但我不知道。我是在问您。\n\n答：\n不是。他不使用 Golden Spring（“金泉”）的信用卡。\n\n问：\nGolden Spring（“金泉”）有信用卡吗？\n\n答：\n我们有借记卡。\n\n问：\n好的。Golden Spring（“金泉”）有任何信用卡吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 128 of 280\n\n答：\n截至目前，没有。\n\n问：\n好的。Kwok先生能使用 Golden Spring（“金泉”）的借记卡吗？\n\n答：\n不能。\n\n问：\n那他的妻子呢？她［原文如此］能使用 Golden Spring（“金泉”）的借记卡吗？\n\n答：\n我不记得了。\n\n问：\n您是 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（Golden Spring（纽约）有限公司）的财务主管，对吧？\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n您——您真的不知道 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的妻子是否能使用公司的借记卡？\n\n答：\n她以前有一张，但我不确定那张卡是否仍然有效。\n\n问：\n她是什么时候有的？\n\n答：\n很久以前。\n\n问：\n您能说得更具体一些吗？\n\n答：\n先生，您说我能说得更具体一些是什么意思？\n\n问：\n您知道我的意思。\n\nROSEN先生：\n反对。请您直接向证人说明您的问题是什么，可以吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 129 of 280\n\nHARBACH先生：\n当然。当然。抱歉，我故作俏皮了。\n\nHARBACH先生询问：\n\n问：\nWang（王）女士，您能否给出一个更精确的日期范围，说明 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的妻子在何期间可以使用 Golden Spring (New York)（Golden Spring（纽约））借记卡？\n\n答：\n先生，我不记得了。\n\n问：\n您是否记得她——即 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的妻子——最后一次使用 Golden Spring (New York)（Golden Spring（纽约））借记卡是什么时候？\n\n答：\n我不记得了。\n\n问：\n您作为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited（Golden Spring（纽约）有限公司）的总裁兼财务主管，是否授权 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的妻子使用 Golden Spring (New York)（Golden Spring（纽约））借记卡？\n\n答：\n授权？我相信是的。而且 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生要求 Golden Spring（“金泉”）这样做。\n\n问：\n但您不记得那是什么时候？\n\n答：\n正确。\n\n问：\n好的。我相信您刚才证称，据您所知，Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生从未使用过 Golden Spring (New York)（Golden Spring（纽约））借记卡；这是否正确？\n\n答：\n他根本从未持有 Golden Spring (New York)（Golden Spring（纽约））借记卡。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 130 of 280\n\n问：\n据您所知，他是否曾使用该借记卡号码购买任何物品？\n\n答：\n我不知道。\n\n问：\n他是否曾要求您——“他”指 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生——以您作为 Golden Spring（“金泉”）总裁的身份为他购买任何物品？\n\n答：\n我相信有。\n\n问：\n好的。您能举例说明他曾要求您为他购买的任何物品吗？\n\n答：\n我是说，我不记得细节，但这发生过。\n\n问：\n您不记得 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生要求您为他购买的任何一件物品？\n\n答：\n我不记得了。\n\n问：\n他曾多少次要求您为他购买物品？\n\n答：\n我不记得了。\n\n问：\n超过一次？\n\n答：\n正确。\n\n问：\n超过一百次？\n\n答：\n我不记得了。\n\n问：\n在 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生要求您为他购买物品的情况下，您会怎么做？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 131 of 280\n\n答：\n按照 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的指示，我会帮助他，是的。我去为他购买。\n\n问：\n好的。曾经——是否——您是否曾经——是否——您是否曾拒绝 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生要求您为他购买物品的请求？\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n是什么时候？\n\n答：\n我不记得了。但我显然需要向 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生汇报，如果他拒绝，我就会拒绝。\n\n问：\n好的。您的——所以我想确保我理解这个程序。您的证词是否是，每次 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生要求您为他购买物品时，您都会征询他儿子的意见以取得许可？这是正确还是不正确？\n\n答：\n不是每次。比如，如您所说，买咖啡，对吧？显然我不需要征询 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的意见。\n\n问：\n好的。对于 Kwok Ho Wan先生希望您购买的物品，您如何决定何时就该购买事项征询 Kwok Ho Wan先生儿子的意见？\n\n答：\n我不记得了。但这发生过。\n\n第106页\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 132 of 280\n\n问：\n您对此有什么——任何想法吗？\n\n答：\n比如，律师费？\n\n问：\n不是。我——我只是笼统地问您。我还没有问您律师费，尽管希望我们会谈到这个问题。我问的是，一般而言，如果 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生说，嘿，Yvette（伊薇特），我希望你为我买X，您如何知道是直接购买X，还是要取得他儿子的许可？您如何决定？\n\n答：\n嗯，每年，比如，他的食物、咖啡以及交通，这些生活开支已经由 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生批准；因此，Golden Spring（“金泉”）只需继续购买，然后向 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生汇报；所以，除了——除了——除了哪个词？除了这些以外，我们 Golden Spring（“金泉”）显然需要上报 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生以取得批准。\n\n问：\n明白了。那么，如果我理解正确，诸如食物、衣物、交通之类的事项——这些事项不需要 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的具体批准，并且您认为可以无需取得他的许可，直接为 Kwok先生购买。我的理解正确吗？\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 133 of 280\n\n答：\n是的。这是给予 Golden Spring（“金泉”）的指示；所以——\n\n问：\n而这是否——\n\n答：\n——我们就直接购买。\n\n问：\n无论该物品有多昂贵，都是如此吗？\n\n答：\n先生，您所说的昂贵是指什么范围？我是说——\n\n问：\n那么，让我们——让我们以交通为例。您是否知道——Kwok先生经常乘坐 Maybach（迈巴赫）豪华轿车出行？\n\n答：\n我是否知道？您说我是否知道是什么意思？\n\n问：\n您是否知道——您是否知道什么是豪华轿车？\n\n答：\n豪华轿车，是的。我知道。\n\n问：\n好的。您知道什么是 Maybach（迈巴赫）吗？\n\n答：\n是。\n\n问：\n好的。它是一种汽车，对吧？\n\n答：\n正确。\n\n问：\nHo Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生经常乘坐 Maybach（迈巴赫）出行，这难道不是真的吗？\n\n答：\n先生——先生，我知道 Mileson（迈尔森）希望他的父亲安全且受到保障；所以，这是我所知道的。\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 134 of 280\n\n但我不知道，比如，频率。我使用那个。\n\n2　显然，我并没有每天跟着他的父亲。　12:03:48\n3　我无法说明这一点。　12:03:50\n4　问：Golden Spring（New York）（纽约金泉）是否——我今天为本次证言录取请您——　12:03:51\n5　先接受这样一个前提——　12:03:54\n6　就请相信我所说的，即在过去一个月内，　12:03:59\n7　Kwok先生至少有一次乘坐 Maybach 出行。　12:04:02\n8　可以吗？　12:04:08\n9　我们就假定如此。　12:04:08\n10　我要问您的是，该 Maybach 的　12:04:11\n11　交通费用是否由 Golden Spring（New York）支付　12:04:17\n12　的？　12:04:19\n13　答：Golden Spring（New York）支付——支付——　12:04:21\n14　汽油费用，而且——对，汽油费用。这　12:04:24\n15　就是——　12:04:31\n16　问：是否——　12:04:31\n17　答：——这是我们支付的交通费用。　12:04:32\n18　问：Golden Spring（New York）是否拥有任何　12:04:35\n19　Maybach 车辆？　12:04:36\n20　答：哦，我——我记不清，比如说，　12:04:38\n21　Maybach 是否由 Golden Spring 所有。我的意思是，　12:04:47\n22　Golden Spring 拥有几辆车。它们最终　12:04:50\n23　均由 Qiang Guo先生（郭强）所有。　12:04:53\n24　问：是的，我明白。　12:04:56\n25　请告诉我 Golden Spring 所拥有的车辆情况。　12:04:57\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 135 页，共 280 页\n\n1　你刚才提到有几辆。　12:04:59\n2　它们是什么车？　12:05:06\n3　答：我不是懂车的人；所以我得查一下。　12:05:07\n4　问：好的。它们是好车吗？　12:05:11\n5　答：我无法说明。　12:05:14\n6　问：而且您不知道 Golden Spring（New York）所拥有的车辆中　12:05:16\n7　是否有一辆是 Maybach；　12:05:20\n8　是这样吗？　12:05:24\n9　答：我不知道，因为这是 Mileson先生（迈尔森）的事，　12:05:26\n10　就像 Qiang Guo先生一样，是他直接购买的。　12:05:31\n11　问：是的。　12:05:34\n12　答：所以我并不——　12:05:35\n13　问：我——我——我明白。　12:05:36\n14　但我问的是 Golden Spring　12:05:37\n15　（New York）。　12:05:40\n16　可以吗？　12:05:40\n17　我问的是 Golden Spring（New York）　12:05:41\n18　Limited（纽约金泉有限公司），您是该公司的总裁、财务主管、　12:05:44\n19　秘书和董事。我问的是您是否知道　12:05:48\n20　Golden Spring（New York）Limited 是否拥有　12:05:52\n21　一辆 Maybach 汽车。　12:05:55\n22　您知道吗？　12:05:57\n23　答：我不记得。我得查一下。　12:05:59\n24　问：好的。您还告诉我，　12:06:02\n25　Golden Spring（New York）支付 Ho Wan Kwok先生（郭文贵）的　12:06:07\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 136 页，共 280 页\n\n1　交通费用；对吗？　12:06:13\n2　答：对。　12:06:15\n3　问：这将包括乘坐　12:06:16\n4　汽车出行；对吗？　12:06:20\n5　答：对。　12:06:22\n6　问：如果那是他希望采用的出行方式，这还将包括安排一辆租赁　12:06:24\n7　车辆；对吗？　12:06:32\n8　答：我们支付汽油费用。　12:06:37\n9　问：是的。我听到了。我只是想　12:06:42\n10　弄清楚车辆由谁所有，Wang女士（王女士）。　12:06:45\n11　您是否知道 Golden Spring（New York）　12:06:49\n12　Limited 是否为了运送 Ho Wan Kwok先生而租用或租赁了一辆 Maybach？　12:06:52\n13　您知道吗？　12:06:57\n14　答：我不知道。　12:07:02\n15　HARBACH律师：那么，Rosen律师，我将　12:07:10\n16　接受证人提出的、就 Golden Spring（New York）所拥有的　12:07:15\n17　车辆种类回复我们的提议，　12:07:19\n18　尤其是它们是否拥有任何 Maybach　12:07:24\n19　汽车，如果您同意的话。　12:07:28\n20　ROSEN律师：我们将予以考虑。　12:07:31\n21　HARBACH律师：好的。　12:07:33\n22　ROSEN律师：您的请求——已记录在案。　12:07:33\n23　HARBACH律师：好的。谢谢。　12:07:38\n24　证人：先生，我们能休息一下吗？　12:07:49\n25　我的意思是，现在是 12:00。　12:07:51\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 137 页，共 280 页\n\n1　HARBACH律师询问：　12:07:53\n2　问：当然可以。　12:07:53\n3　答：我确实需要午餐休息时间，是的。　12:07:53\n4　问：如果——如果您现在想休息，　12:07:56\n5　完全没有问题。　12:07:58\n6　HARBACH律师：我不知道是 Suzanne 还是　12:08:02\n7　Jeff 负责让我们下线，但我建议在——　12:08:03\n8　下午 1:00 重新开始。　12:08:08\n9　大家都同意吗？　12:08:10\n10　ROSEN律师：同意。　12:08:13\n11　HARBACH律师：好的。　12:08:15\n12　录像员：我们暂停　12:08:16\n13　记录。　12:08:17\n14　现在时间是 12:08。　12:08:17\n15　（午餐休庭。）　13:01:33\n16　录像员：我们恢复　13:01:33\n17　记录。　13:01:36\n18　现在时间是 1:01。　13:01:36\n19　HARBACH律师询问：　13:01:40\n20　问：下午好，Wang女士——Wang女士。　13:01:46\n21　有一个与我午餐前问您的问题毫无关系的　13:01:48\n22　小问题。　13:01:53\n23　可以吗？您认识一个叫 Yu Yong（于勇）的人吗？　13:01:56\n24　拼写是 Y-u Y-o-n-g。　13:02:02\n25　答：认识。　13:02:09\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 138 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：好的。那个人是谁？　13:02:10\n2　答：我之前在纽约见过她。　13:02:13\n3　问：好的。您知道她从事什么职业　13:02:17\n4　吗？　13:02:25\n5　答：我见她时，她也在　13:02:26\n6　与该家庭一起工作。　13:02:29\n7　问：Guo 家族？　13:02:30\n8　答：是的。　13:02:34\n9　问：具体是与谁一起？　13:02:35\n10　答：与 Qiang Guo先生一起。　13:02:38\n11　问：还有其他人吗？　13:02:44\n12　答：我相信是与——与 Qiang Guo先生的　13:02:45\n13　父亲一起——　13:02:49\n14　问：还有——　13:02:51\n15　答：——但我没有具体细节。　13:02:52\n16　问：好的。您大约是在何时　13:02:54\n17　见到她的？　13:02:57\n18　答：2015。　13:02:58\n19　问：好的。谢谢。　13:03:01\n20　换一个话题。　13:03:04\n21　是谁设立了 Golden Spring（New York）Limited？　13:03:07\n22　答：据我了解，是由　13:03:13\n23　Qiang Guo先生设立的。　13:03:19\n24　问：您——当您说这是您的　13:03:20\n25　了解时，您是自己知道这一点，还是有人告诉　13:03:23\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 139 页，共 280 页\n\n1　您这一点？　13:03:26\n2　答：这是我后来得知的。我相信　13:03:27\n3　会有——会有律师事务所为他提供支持，　13:03:31\n4　但公司是他设立的。　13:03:34\n5　问：他为什么设立这家公司？　13:03:37\n6　答：我后来才知道——不是在他　13:03:39\n7　设立公司时知道的——他试图在中国境外　13:03:46\n8　做生意，主要是在美国这里。　13:03:50\n9　问：什么类型的生意？　13:03:54\n10　答：比如与房地产、　13:03:56\n11　投资有关的业务——比如多元化业务。　13:04:02\n12　问：Golden Spring（New York）成立时，　13:04:06\n13　是谁为其提供资金？　13:04:11\n14　答：我后来得知，Qiang Guo先生　13:04:12\n15　安排了资金——为 Golden Spring 提供资金。　13:04:22\n16　问：当您说他安排了资金时，您的意思是　13:04:26\n17　由他本人提供了这笔钱吗？　13:04:29\n18　答：嗯。不是。　13:04:34\n19　他通过他的——另一家公司作了安排。　13:04:35\n20　我相信那家公司叫 Bravo Luck（好运）。　13:04:40\n21　问：我明白。　13:04:44\n22　那么，您的理解是，Golden Spring（New York）Limited 成立时　13:04:45\n23　为其提供资金的款项　13:04:48\n24　来自 Bravo Luck？　13:04:55\n25　答：这是我得知的情况。　13:05:00\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 140 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：来自谁？　13:05:01\n2　答：来自 Qiang Guo先生。　13:05:03\n3　问：您是否曾就 Bravo Luck 与 Ho Wan Kwok先生　13:05:05\n4　谈过？　13:05:10\n5　答：嗯。我不记得。　13:05:13\n6　问：您是否曾就 Golden Spring（New York）Limited 成立时　13:05:16\n7　用于为其提供资金的款项来源，　13:05:20\n8　与 Ho Wan Kwok先生谈过？　13:05:24\n9　答：没有。　13:05:28\n10　我不记得我做过那件事。　13:05:30\n11　问：您知道 Bravo Luck 如何获得您所称为 Golden Spring（New York）Limited 提供资金的　13:05:34\n12　那笔钱吗？　13:05:41\n13　答：我不知道。　13:05:44\n14　问：Golden Spring　13:05:47\n15　（New York）成立时的商业目的是什么——曾经是什么？　13:05:54\n16　答：哦，Golden Spring 是作为由 Qiang Guo先生所有的　13:05:57\n17　家族办公室设立的；因此，Qiang Guo先生当时　13:06:04\n18　计划，如我所说，在美国发展并扩大　13:06:09\n19　业务，包括，比如，正如　13:06:14\n20　我所说的投资、房地产以及　13:06:21\n21　他——他当时正在从事的业务。　13:06:25\n22　问：Qiang Guo先生如今住在哪里？在哪个　13:06:28\n23　国家？　13:06:33\n24　答：他住在英国。　13:06:38\n25　问：他在那里住了多久？　13:06:41\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 141 页，共 280 页\n\n1　ROSEN律师：反对。这个问题——这个问题　13:06:44\n2　与本案有什么关联性，David？　13:06:46\n3　HARBACH律师：我正试图探究证人　13:06:49\n4　关于 Golden Spring 商业目的的最新回答。　13:06:52\n5　她说他——即 Qiang Guo，设立该公司是为了做 X、Y 和 Z。并且我　13:06:55\n6　正试图询问，　13:06:59\n7　Golden Spring 设立后，他实际在这个国家待了多长时间。　13:07:05\n8　这就是　13:07:09\n9　我提问的原因。　13:07:12\n10　ROSEN律师：请为记录说明，我们在本次　13:07:13\n11　证言录取中都身处不同地点。　13:07:14\n12　而且在当今世界，您的——您的所在地　13:07:18\n13　未必有很大意义。　13:07:23\n14　但尽管如此，我会指示　13:07:26\n15　证人回答。　13:07:29\n16　HARBACH律师询问：　13:07:30\n17　问：问题是——何时——或者说，　13:07:30\n18　Qiang Guo先生在英国住了多久。　13:07:36\n19　答：多年。我的意思是——　13:07:40\n20　问：您的回答结束了吗？　13:07:51\n21　您说的是四年，也许？　13:08:03\n22　答：我的——我的回答不是 four，f-o-u-r，　13:08:04\n23　即四年。这就是我的回答。　13:08:04\n24　问：好的。　13:08:04\n25　答：我不知道是多少年，是的。　13:08:06\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 142 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：您不知道是多少年？　13:08:06\n2　答：对。　13:08:08\n3　问：有可能超过十年吗？　13:08:09\n4　答：我不这么认为。　13:08:11\n5　问：如果——如果您知道，Golden Spring（New York）Limited 成立后多久，　13:08:13\n6　Golden Spring（New York）Limited 成立后，　13:08:24\n7　Guo先生——Qiang Guo先生搬到英国？　13:08:28\n8　答：我无法回忆。　13:08:34\n9　问：好的。您知道——您能告诉　13:08:40\n10　我们，Golden Spring（New York）Limited 为推进您刚才　13:08:47\n11　所述商业目的，　13:08:50\n12　采取了哪些行动？　13:08:55\n13　答：Qiang Guo先生于 2015 年在美国，　13:08:55\n14　之后他也经常出行。而且，　13:09:05\n15　显然，他设立了公司，之后我们据此制定　13:09:12\n16　业务架构和计划；所以这仍然是他的指示，而我们一直照此行事，直到　13:09:16\n17　他的父亲开始从事其举报人活动。　13:09:22\n18　他的父亲开始从事其举报人活动。　13:09:28\n19　问：最初的商业计划是什么？　13:09:33\n20　答：投资。　13:09:37\n21　问：好的。我相信，您提到了房地产。　13:09:41\n22　房地产。　13:09:48\n23　还有什么？　13:09:48\n24　答：我们从房地产开始。有房地产，　13:09:49\n25　比如投资。　13:09:53\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 143 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：好的。那么还有其他商业目的，　13:09:54\n\n2　除投资资金外？　13:09:57\n\n3　答。\n并作为纽约的一家家族办公室运营　13:10:00\n4　，以支持其他家族项目。　13:10:09\n\n5　问。\n好的。您此前提到过　13:10:15\n6　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生的支持。　13:10:19\n7　Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）还支持过哪些其他家族项目？　13:10:23\n8　　13:10:27\n\n9　答。\n包括他们的项目——房地产。　13:10:29\n10　例如，包括访谈和讲义。　13:10:39\n11　建筑师、设计师以及与房地产相关的　13:10:45\n12　供应商，然后我们为他们提供便利和协调　13:10:50\n13　服务。　13:10:54\n\n14　问。\nGolden Spring (New York) Limited是否是一家——　13:10:55\n15　营利性企业？　13:10:59\n\n16　答。\n是。　13:11:03\n\n17　问。\n其收入来源是什么？　13:11:03\n\n18　答。\n收入来源？我的意思是，我们是　13:11:08\n19　一家营利性公司，但我们尚未开始　13:11:16\n20　取得收入；因此，收入来源　13:11:23\n21　应当是，我们在家族计划下建设项目　13:11:26\n22　，然后开始从这些项目——投资项目中　13:11:31\n23　获利。　13:11:36\n\n24　问。\n好的。所以，该公司投资资金　13:11:40\n25　，并希望从投资中赚钱。　13:11:43\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 144 of 280\n\n1　仅此而已吗？　13:11:47\n\n2　答。\n这是收入来源的一部分，是的。　13:11:48\n3　计划中的。　13:11:52\n\n4　问。\n该公司——Golden Spring　13:11:52\n5　(New York) Limited——是否有任何客户？还是仅有　13:11:57\n6　家族？　13:12:01\n\n7　答。\n我的意思是，据我们　13:12:02\n8　理解，家族办公室通常是为家族　13:12:08\n9　企业提供支持和服务；所以我们的客户是家族。　13:12:13\n\n10　问。\n好的。这包括Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生，　13:12:15\n11　对吗？　13:12:20\n\n12　答。\n他是要求Golden Spring提供支持的公司　13:12:21\n13　所有人；所以Golden Spring　13:12:28\n14　并不计划，或者说，不会从他的　13:12:31\n15　父亲那里获利，我们没有考虑过那一点以及　13:12:39\n16　如何获利；对吗？　13:12:43\n\n17　问。\n嗯，您刚才说　13:12:45\n18　Golden Spring (New York) Limited的客户是　13:12:47\n19　家族。我问您这是否包括　13:12:58\n20　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）先生。　13:13:00\n21　我之所以问这个问题，是因为　13:13:01\n22　Ho Wan Kwok先生是该家族的成员，对吗？　13:13:04\n\n23　答。\n所以这是我的回答。Golden Spring——　13:13:09\n\n24　ROSEN先生（罗森）：\n请暂缓回答，　13:13:15\n25　就一会儿。　13:13:18\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 145 of 280\n\n1　我提出异议，理由是我　13:13:18\n2　不确定您对“客户”一词的使用是否——是否　13:13:23\n3　被理解。　13:13:25\n4　您能澄清一下吗？　13:13:25\n\n5　HARBACH先生（哈巴赫）：\n当然。　13:13:29\n\n6　由HARBACH先生讯问：　13:13:32\n\n7　问。\nWang女士（王女士），您知道我所说的　13:13:33\n8　“客户”一词是什么意思吗？　13:13:36\n\n9　答。\n客户是指您提供服务以获得　13:13:39\n10　报酬。　13:13:43\n\n11　问。\n好的。刚才您说Golden Spring (New York) Limited的　13:13:44\n12　客户是家族。　13:13:51\n13　您是按照您刚才所　13:13:55\n14　描述的含义使用该词，还是有其他含义？　13:13:59\n\n15　答。\n我的意思是，客户是郭氏家族。　13:14:02\n16　我的意思是，他们——他们正如我此前作证所述，　13:14:06\n17　大约有一百名家族成员。他们都可能是我们的　13:14:12\n18　客户。他们都是商人。　13:14:15\n\n19　问。\n好的。　13:14:18\n\n20　答。\n所以，作为Golden Spring的客户，我的意思是。　13:14:19\n21　　13:14:22\n\n22　问。\n好的。您的意思是家族成员向Golden Spring付款吗？　13:14:23\n23　　13:14:25\n\n24　答。\n我的意思是，如果Golden Spring提供服务　13:14:31\n25　并帮助他们成功投资，是的，　13:14:34\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 146 of 280\n\n1　Golden Spring将获得报酬。　13:14:39\n\n2　问。\n好的。所以现在我的问题是，　13:14:40\n3　Ho Wan Kwok先生是否属于作为Golden Spring (New York) Limited客户的　13:14:45\n4　家族的一部分？　13:14:50\n\n5　ROSEN先生：\n对问题形式提出异议。　13:14:54\n6　它——您的问题是，他是否　13:14:58\n7　个人作为客户？因为您问的是，他是否属于作为客户的　13:15:01\n8　家族的一部分。　13:15:05\n\n9　HARBACH先生：\n嗯，抱歉，我——我——　13:15:08\n10　我确实无意造成混淆。　13:15:11\n\n11　由HARBACH先生讯问：　13:15:14\n\n12　问。\nWang女士，我理解您刚才说　13:15:14\n13　家族——您说其由许多人组成。　13:15:17\n14　　13:15:22\n15　该家族是Golden Spring　13:15:22\n16　(New York) Limited的客户；对吗？　13:15:26\n\n17　答。\n该家族及其从商的家族成员；　13:15:29\n18　对吗？　13:15:36\n19　他们是Golden Spring的客户。当然，　13:15:37\n20　我不是指未成年儿童；　13:15:40\n21　对吗？　13:15:44\n22　所以我已说得非常清楚。　13:15:44\n\n23　问。\nHo Wan Kwok先生是该家族的成员吗？　13:15:46\n\n24　答。\n是的，他是家族成员之一。　13:15:50\n\n25　问。\n据您所知，Ho Wan Kwok先生是否曾　13:15:53\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 147 of 280\n\n1　向Golden Spring　13:16:06\n2　(New York) Limited出资或支付任何款项？　13:16:11\n\n3　答。\n没有。　13:16:13\n4　据我所知。　13:16:16\n\n5　问。\n据您所知，Ho Wan Kwok先生拥有或控制的任何商业　13:16:17\n6　组织是否曾　13:16:26\n7　向Golden Spring　13:16:32\n8　(New York) Limited出资任何款项？　13:16:36\n\n9　ROSEN先生：\n异议。　13:16:39\n10　您可以回答该问题。　13:16:40\n\n11　证人：\n据我所知，没有。　13:16:42\n\n12　由HARBACH先生讯问：　13:16:45\n\n13　问。\n而您——作为Golden Spring　13:16:49\n14　(New York) Limited的财务主管，如果该情况确实发生，您是否　13:16:53\n15　理应知晓？　13:16:56\n\n16　答。\n自从我——　13:16:59\n\n17　ROSEN先生：\n异议。　13:17:03\n18　您可以回答。　13:17:04\n\n19　证人：\n自从我被任命为　13:17:07\n20　Golden Spring的财务主管以来，我没有看到任何资金　13:17:11\n21　来自Ho Wan Kwok先生。Golden Spring也　13:17:13\n22　不把他视为客户；所以他是家族成员，　13:17:17\n23　但他并非我们那种潜在客户。　13:17:21\n24　他是所有人。他是所有人的父亲，　13:17:25\n25　这就是我们的理解。　13:17:31\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 148 of 280\n\n1　由HARBACH先生讯问：　13:17:32\n\n2　问。\n事实上，他是所有人，不是吗，　13:17:33\n3　Wang女士？　13:17:36\n\n4　ROSEN先生：\n异议。　13:17:37\n\n5　证人：\n他根本不是所有人。　13:17:38\n\n6　由HARBACH先生讯问：　13:17:42\n\n7　问。\n在Golden Spring成立时，您是否曾是其雇员、董事或　13:17:46\n8　高级管理人员？　13:17:53\n9　　13:17:56\n\n10　答。\n您是指追溯至2015年吗，先生？　13:18:00\n\n11　问。\n是。　13:18:04\n\n12　答。\n不是。　13:18:05\n\n13　问。\n回到我关于Golden Spring　13:18:06\n14　(New York) Limited收入来源的问题，除投资　13:18:16\n15　收益外，该类别中是否还有　13:18:22\n16　其他来源？　13:18:26\n\n17　答。\n您是什么意思？例如，除我先前回答您的内容外，是否有其他　13:18:28\n18　收入来源？　13:18:38\n\n19　问。\n是。　13:18:41\n\n20　答。\n好的。所以那将是我们主要的　13:18:42\n21　收入来源。比如，家族办公室——我的意思是，依我的　13:18:45\n22　理解，您已经进行投资；因此当您　13:18:51\n23　投资时，您获得收入，然后我们获得报酬，　13:18:54\n24　所以我们就获得了。　13:18:57\n\n25　问。\n我明白。　13:18:57\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 149 of 280\n\n1　我问您是否还有其他来源。　13:18:58\n2　　13:19:00\n\n3　答。\n据我所知，这就是我所知道的全部。　13:19:03\n\n4　问。\n好的。　13:19:08\n\n5　答。\n这就是计划。我的意思是，作为家族　13:19:09\n6　办公室——对吗？——我们应当进行投资　13:19:12\n7　并取得收入——取得收入。我的意思是，我不是　13:19:15\n8　一家律师事务所。我也不是其他任何服务　13:19:18\n9　公司。还有什么其他收入来源　13:19:20\n10　是我应当预期的。　13:19:22\n\n11　问。\nGolden Spring (New York) Limited是否有　13:19:24\n12　任何银行账户？　13:19:28\n\n13　答。\n先生，您问的是哪个时间点？　13:19:30\n\n14　问。\n我问的是目前。　13:19:41\n\n15　答。\n有。　13:19:43\n\n16　问。\n有多少个？　13:19:43\n\n17　答。\n一个。　13:19:46\n\n18　问。\n在哪家银行？　13:19:52\n\n19　ROSEN先生：\n异议。这里涉及安全　13:19:55\n20　问题，而且我们——我了解到　13:19:59\n21　Golden Spring的银行账户已被关闭，作为据向我所述的一项骚扰　13:20:06\n22　计划的一部分；因此，我此时要求　13:20:09\n23　不披露——要求证人不披露　13:20:13\n24　该银行账户所在地。　13:20:16\n25　　13:20:19\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 150 of 280\n\n1　HARBACH先生：\n好的。Scott，我无意　13:20:20\n2　无视您的指示。我要问　13:20:25\n3　另一个问题，如果您希望将此问题纳入　13:20:28\n4　您的异议，请这样做。但我要　13:20:31\n5　问这个问题。　13:20:34\n\n6　由HARBACH先生讯问：　13:20:35\n\n7　问。\nWang女士，Golden Spring (New York)的银行　13:20:35\n8　账户是否设在一家美国银行？　13:20:38\n\n9　答。\n是。　13:20:42\n\n10　问。\n该账户目前的大致余额是多少？　13:20:43\n11　　13:20:54\n\n12　答。\n我的意思是，出于同样的安全原因。我　13:20:57\n13　非常犹豫是否告诉您，因为PAX已经，例如，　13:21:05\n14　骚扰了Golden Spring的所有银行账户。　13:21:09\n15　所以我们在谈论DIP loan；对吗？　13:21:14\n\n16　问。\n嗯，是的。　13:21:18\n17　您知道本次——本次证言记录通知的　13:21:19\n18　理由，我不会与您争论该问题　13:21:21\n19　是否适当。　13:21:26\n20　　13:21:28\n21　我的问题是，Golden Spring在　13:21:30\n22　美国的唯一银行账户的大致　13:21:33\n23　余额是多少？　13:21:38\n\n24　ROSEN先生：\n我将提出异议，并且，如　13:21:41\n25　果律师可以接受，我希望进行短暂　13:21:44\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 151 of 280\n\n1　休庭，以与我的当事人讨论此事。　13:21:50\n\n2　HARBACH先生：\n当然。完全没问题。　13:21:52\n\n3　录像员：\n现在停止记录。　13:21:55\n4　　13:21:56\n5　时间为1:21。　13:21:56\n\n6　（短暂休庭。）　13:22:00\n\n7　录像员：\n现在恢复记录。　13:33:59\n8　　13:34:01\n9　时间为1:34。　13:34:01\n\n10　HARBACH先生：\nScott，您想在记录中　13:34:06\n11　说明什么吗，还是不需要？　13:34:11\n\n12　ROSEN先生：\n不需要。　13:34:14\n13　我不需要在记录中说明任何　13:34:15\n14　内容。　13:34:18\n\n15　由HARBACH先生讯问：　13:34:18\n\n16　问。\n好的。Wang女士，休庭期间，除您的律师外，您是否与其他任何人　13:34:19\n17　交谈？　13:34:21\n\n18　答。\n我只与Scott Rosen先生交谈。　13:34:23\n\n19　问。\n好的。谢谢。　13:34:25\n20　休庭前尚待回答的问题是，　13:34:26\n21　Golden Spring　13:34:31\n22　(New York) Limited在美国的唯一银行账户的大致余额是多少？　13:34:37\n\n23　ROSEN先生：\n我将提出异议，并指示　13:34:45\n24　证人不得回答该具体问题，　13:34:47\n25　因为Golden Spring对于维持　13:34:50\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 152 of 280\n\n1　该银行账户的完整性和可用性存在担忧。　13:34:54\n\n2　鉴于 PAX 采取的债权人权利行动　13:34:58\n3　——由 PAX 采取。　13:35:03\n4　哈巴赫先生（Mr. Harbach）：　13:35:05\n5　问：\n暂且不谈该银行的身份，　13:35:06\n6　Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）大约拥有多少　13:35:11\n7　流动资产价值？　13:35:20\n8　答：\nGolden Spring——我是说，有足够的资金　13:35:23\n9　支持 Golden Spring 的运营。\n我是说，我们　13:35:33\n10　没有现金流问题，所以　13:35:37\n11　问：\n好的。你对于什么　13:35:40\n12　可能构成现金流问题的判断、我们对于　13:35:44\n13　什么可能构成现金流问题的判断，以及 Manning 法官（Judge Manning）对于什么可能构成现金流问题的　13:35:48\n14　判断，可能　13:35:54\n15　是三种截然不同的判断。　13:35:57\n16　因此，我才问大约　13:35:59\n17　Golden Spring　13:36:03\n18　(New York) Limited 拥有多少流动资产？　13:36:09\n19　答：\n余额每天都在变化，因为　13:36:12\n20　每天都会发生事情；所以我不想　13:36:19\n21　推测。显然，我现在没有查看银行　13:36:22\n22　余额；所以我无法回答。　13:36:25\n23　问：\n什——什么——何——何时是你最后　13:36:27\n24　一次查看余额？　13:36:29\n25　答：\n我不记得了。这是财务——　13:36:30\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 153 页，共 280 页\n\n1　财务部门，他们在处理此事。　13:36:34\n\n2　问：\n嗯，你是司库，对吗？　13:36:37\n\n3　罗森先生（Mr. Rosen）：\n请原谅。我以为这是　13:36:40\n4　暂且不谈银行账户的提问。　13:36:42\n5　问题是——流动资产的价值　13:36:45\n6　是多少，暂且不谈银行账户。　13:36:47\n7　哈巴赫先生：\n是的。我的意思是——而且我无法　13:36:50\n相信我说过——如果我没有这么说，那是我弄错了。我的意思是　13:36:53\n该银行的身份。我不——我不　13:36:56\n有兴趣取得该银行的身份信息。　13:36:59\n我只是想弄清楚　13:37:02\nGolden Spring (New York) Limited 有多少钱。仅此而已。　13:37:05\n哈巴赫先生：　13:37:02\n14　问：\n该公司有多少钱？你　13:37:11\n知道吗？　13:37:13\n16　答：\n有足够的钱支持所有日常　13:37:14\n运营。　13:37:18\n18　问：\n你是——你是——不愿告诉我　13:37:18\nGolden Spring 有多少钱，还是你不知道　13:37:23\nGolden Spring 有多少钱？　13:37:27\n21　罗森先生：\n是的。我——我必须在此提出异议。　13:37:29\n对于 Golden Spring 资产的完整性和　13:37:31\n可用性存有疑虑，鉴于　13:37:36\nPAX 已采取的债权人行动；因此　13:37:41\n这些是——这些是敏感问题。如果——如果　13:37:46\n第 128 页\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 154 页，共 280 页\n\n1　你想要问贷款　13:37:50\n2　收益将从何而来，那么我们——我们　13:37:52\n3　当然可以谈这个。但就其现有　13:37:56\n4　资产而言，目前其造成的损害——仅仅　13:38:00\n5　超过任何——任何——任何相关性。　13:38:06\n6　哈巴赫先生：\n我——我认为我理解你的　13:38:10\n7　异议，而且我不完全展开回应，　13:38:13\n8　只指出我们强烈不同意。但如果你　13:38:16\n9　指示证人不要回答，我会尝试　13:38:20\n10　继续问别的。　13:38:23\n11　罗森先生：\n谢谢。　13:38:24\n12　哈巴赫先生：　13:38:26\n13　问：\nGolden Spring (New York) 去年大约　13:38:32\n14　盈利多少？　13:38:35\n15　答：\n因为整个——就像，PAX——　13:38:41\n16　对吗？——这宗案件，我是说，PAX 显然传唤了　13:38:49\n17　Golden Spring 的所有银行。然后，据　13:38:53\n18　我律师告知，PAX 没有获得任何东西；所以——因为　13:38:57\n19　PAX 在过去一年中特意损害了我们的　13:39:01\n20　银行关系，如你所说，　13:39:05\n21　我是说，我们去年没有盈利。　13:39:07\n22　问：\n你们去年没有盈利？　13:39:10\n23　答：\n正确。　13:39:14\n24　罗森先生：\n异议。　13:39:16\n25　///　\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 155 页，共 280 页\n\n1　哈巴赫先生：　13:39:17\n\n2　问：\n是否有——是否有——　13:39:18\n3　去年大约亏损了多少？　13:39:20\n4　你理解这个问题吗？　13:39:33\n5　答：\n当然。　13:39:34\n6　问：\n那么是多少——　13:39:37\n7　答：\n但我也不知道这为什么与本案有关。　13:39:38\n8　这是敏感信息，我必须　13:39:42\n9　保密。　13:39:44\n10　问：\n你是——所以你是——你是——你是　13:39:45\n11　不愿回答 Golden Spring　13:39:46\n12　(New York) Limited 去年的亏损金额　13:39:51\n13　是多少；对吗？　13:39:57\n14　罗森先生：\n异议。这不是针对 Golden Spring 的资产　13:39:57\n15　披露证言记录。而且——而且　13:40:01\n16　鉴于已有的未决诉讼　13:40:03\n17　在外面，这样的问题超出了　13:40:05\n18　本次证言记录应有的范围，　13:40:09\n19　再说一次，这是破产案件中一项有争议的事项，　13:40:11\n20　涉及一笔 DIP 贷款，且该贷款　13:40:15\n21　是在完全劣后基础上获准的；所以这——　13:40:19\n22　才是我们今天在此处理的事项，不是资产　13:40:23\n23　披露。　13:40:27\n24　哈巴赫先生：\nScott，这是指示不　13:40:34\n25　回答吗？　13:40:36\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 156 页，共 280 页\n\n1　罗森先生：\n是的。　13:40:37\n\n2　哈巴赫先生：　13:40:39\n3　问：\n谁向 Golden Spring　13:40:39\n4　(New York) 提出债务人占有期间融资请求？　13:40:42\n5　答：\n我——我能请口译员帮助我　13:40:47\n6　理解这个问题吗？　13:40:53\n7　问：\n当然可以。　13:40:55\n8　哈巴赫先生：\nJohnston 女士（Ms. Johnston），我再说一遍。　13:40:56\n9　谁向 Golden Spring　13:41:00\n10　(New York) Limited 提出债务人占有期间　13:41:02\n11　融资请求？　13:41:09\n12　口译员：\n（口译问题。）　13:41:42\n13　核对口译员：\n核对　13:41:42\n14　口译员能否协助解释该术语？　13:41:45\n15　口译员：\n当然。　13:41:48\n16　证人：\n根据口译员的　13:41:55\n17　理解，这是债务人的贷款；对吗？债务人的　13:41:57\n18　地位。债务人的贷款。　13:42:01\n19　哈巴赫先生：　13:42:01\n20　问：\n嗯，王女士（Ms. Wang），今天你曾数次　13:42:01\n21　向我指出，我们在这里　13:42:03\n22　是为了谈一笔 DIP 贷款。　13:42:09\n23　你知道什么是 DIP 贷款吗？　13:42:10\n24　答：\n知道。　13:42:15\n25　这是债务人与贷款人之间的一笔贷款。　13:42:16\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 157 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：\n好的。你知道 DIP 代表什么吗？　13:42:19\n\n2　答：\n知道。　13:42:27\n3　问：\n它代表什么？　13:42:29\n4　答：\n它是一笔显示在——之间的 DIP 贷款——　13:42:31\n5　我是说，我不是律师；对吗？　13:42:42\n6　这是贷款人与　13:42:43\n7　债务人之间的一笔贷款。　13:42:48\n8　问：\n三十秒前你告诉我，你　13:42:49\n9　知道 DIP 代表什么。如果你不知道也没关系。　13:42:53\n10　我只是要求一个诚实的回答。　13:43:00\n11　你知道 DIP 代表什么吗？它是一个　13:43:04\n12　首字母缩略词。　13:43:09\n13　答：\n它是一笔贷款。它是一笔贷款。这就是我的　13:43:09\n14　回答。　13:43:13\n15　问：\n好的。它代表债务人占有期间。　13:43:13\n16　好的？　13:43:17\n17　这不是什么秘密，但是——我继续问。　13:43:19\n18　谁向 Golden Spring　13:43:26\n19　(New York) 提出了本案所涉的债务人占有期间　13:43:32\n20　融资请求？　13:43:37\n21　答：\nGolden Spring (New York) 的所有人。　13:43:39\n22　问：\nGolden Spring (New York) 的所有人向　13:43:44\n23　Golden Spring (New York) 提出了一项 DIP　13:43:52\n24　融资请求？这是你的证言吗？　13:43:57\n25　答：\n我不理解你的问题。　13:44:00\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 158 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：\n谁要求贷款？　13:44:05\n\n2　答：\n我没有参与这笔贷款的谈判。　13:44:10\n3　问：\n你知道谁提出了　13:44:15\n4　贷款请求吗？　13:44:20\n5　答：\n我没有参与　13:44:22\n6　这笔贷款的谈判。我只是获得了　13:44:28\n7　Golden Spring 所有人的指示和建议。　13:44:32\n8　问：\n好的。这个问题的答案——我的　13:44:34\n9　问题的答案是你不知道吗？　13:44:39\n10　答：\n我没有参与。　13:44:41\n11　问：\n你知道吗？让我们使用口译员。　13:44:42\n12　哈巴赫先生：\nJohnston 女士，你能否——嗯，　13:44:48\n13　我们这样做吧。　13:44:53\n14　哈巴赫先生：　13:44:57\n15　问：\n你是否知道谁向　13:44:57\n16　Golden Spring (New York) Limited 提出了作为今天证言记录　13:44:59\n17　主题的贷款请求？　13:45:03\n18　答：\n我没有亲身知情。　13:45:09\n19　问：\n是否有人告诉过你是谁提出了贷款——谁　13:45:11\n20　提出了作为今天证言记录主题的　13:45:19\n21　贷款请求？　13:45:22\n22　答：\n是否有人告诉过我？　13:45:24\n23　问：\n嗯，你说你没有亲身　13:45:31\n24　知情。　13:45:33\n25　答：\n是。　13:45:35\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 159 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：\n而且我知道那——而且我知道那　13:45:35\n\n2　意味着什么。　13:45:39\n3　所以我是在问你，是否曾从其他任何人那里　13:45:39\n4　得知谁提出了作为今天证言记录主题的　13:45:42\n5　贷款请求。　13:45:45\n6　答：\n我从郭强先生（Mr. Qiang Guo）那里听说过他　13:45:53\n7　的 DIP 贷款。　13:45:58\n8　问：\n他说是谁请求了该 DIP 贷款？　13:45:59\n9　答：\n他提到他的父亲——他父亲的　13:46:05\n10　律师。　13:46:16\n11　问：\n你记得该律师的姓名吗？　13:46:17\n12　答：\n我不记得。他没有告诉我，而且　13:46:20\n13　我不记得。　13:46:23\n14　问：\n如果你知道，该请求是在何时提出的？　13:46:24\n15　答：\n在三月。　13:46:33\n16　问：\n哪一年？　13:46:41\n17　答：\n今年。　13:46:43\n18　问：\n作为 Golden Spring (New York)　13:46:45\n19　Limited 的总裁、秘书、司库和董事，你是否　13:46:53\n20　参与了关于是否向债务人提供　13:46:58\n21　DIP 融资的决定？　13:47:03\n22　答：\n郭强先生事后向我告知。　13:47:06\n23　那是相当短的一段时间。而且是他处理的；　13:47:16\n24　所以对你的回答是，我没有参与。　13:47:24\n25　问：\n郭先生是否征询过你的意见——　13:47:27\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 160 页，共 280 页\n\n1　郭强先生，就 Golden Spring (New York) 是否　13:47:32\n2　同意向本案债务人提供 DIP　13:47:36\n3　融资的决定，是否征询过你的意见？　13:47:40\n4　答：\n你所说的“征询”是什么意思？　13:47:42\n5　问：\n你知道“征询”是什么意思吗？　13:47:45\n6　答：\n当然知道。　13:47:48\n7　问：\n好的。那么郭强先生是否就　13:47:49\n8　Golden Spring (New York) 是否同意提供 DIP　13:47:53\n9　融资的决定　13:47:59\n10　征询过你的意见？　13:48:03\n11　答：\n你的意思是，他——当他作出　13:48:05\n12　决定时？　13:48:08\n13　问：\n嗯，我们会谈到是谁作出的　13:48:09\n14　决定。我试图弄清楚你是否　13:48:14\n15　参与，以及如果参与，是如何参与。你几　13:48:18\n16　分钟前告诉我，你没有参与该　13:48:23\n17　决定。　13:48:25\n18　我问的是郭强先生是否就该决定　13:48:26\n19　与你交谈。　13:48:30\n20　答：\n是。　13:48:33\n21　他与我谈过该决定。　13:48:34\n22　问：\n在他作出决定之前还是之后？　13:48:36\n23　答：\n之后。　13:48:40\n24　问：\n而且我说得对吗，该决定是他的，　13:48:41\n25　不是你的？正确吗？　13:48:47\n\n案件 22-50073 文书 440-26 提交 05/25/22 录入 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 161 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：\nGolden Spring 一直是该诉讼　13:48:49\n\n2　为郭强先生的父亲提供资金，我是说，　13:48:56\n3　持续数年。\n郭强先生作出了决定，　13:49:01\n4　鉴于明显时间紧迫。\n作为　13:49:05\n5　公司的总裁，我与该决定一致，他当时知道，并且　13:49:09\n6　他现在也知道我会与该决定一致。　13:49:13\n7　问：\n我明白。　13:49:15\n8　答：\n所以没有必要——　13:49:16\n9　问：\n那么这是否——　13:49:16\n10　答：\n没有必要争论这一点，是的，如果这正是　13:49:17\n11　你所寻求的。　13:49:20\n12　问：\n我——我——我——你知道，我不是　13:49:21\n13　想和你争论。\n我只是想　13:49:22\n14　了解发生了什么。　13:49:25\n15　那么这样如何？　13:49:28\n16　你明白，Golden Spring（金泉）在过去可能向　13:49:31\n17　郭文贵先生提供的诉讼资金，　13:49:37\n18　与我们今天所讨论的DIP贷款不同？　13:49:46\n19　你明白那是两件不同的事情；对吗？　13:49:49\n20　对吗？　13:49:51\n21　答：\n正确。　13:49:54\n22　问：\n好的。\n因此，我只想重点讨论　13:49:54\n23　DIP贷款，而不是过去可能　13:49:58\n24　发生的诉讼融资。　13:50:03\n25　你明白吗？　13:50:05\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 162 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　答：\n是。　13:50:06\n\n2　问：\n好的。\n那么，我是否理解正确，即　13:50:10\n3　根据你的说法，是否同意　13:50:13\n4　向债务人提供DIP贷款的决定，是郭强先生　13:50:20\n5　作出的决定？\n正确吗？　13:50:27\n6　答：\n他作出了决定，显然是代表　13:50:34\n7　Golden Spring，他是该公司的所有人。　13:50:41\n8　而且我们意见一致。　13:50:43\n9　问：\n好的。\n你是Golden Spring (New York)　13:50:45\n10　Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的总裁，以及所有　13:50:49\n11　其他那些职务的担任者；正确吗？　13:50:52\n12　答：\n正确。　13:50:58\n13　问：\n你是否曾经不同意郭强先生　13:50:59\n14　作出的某项决定？　13:51:02\n15　答：\n是的，当然。　13:51:03\n16　问：\n好的。\n他是否就　13:51:06\n17　这项决定征求过你的同意？　13:51:08\n18　答：\n你是指这项DIP贷款决定？　13:51:09\n19　问：\n嗯哼。　13:51:13\n20　答：\n没有。　13:51:14\n21　为什么？　13:51:19\n22　问：\n他只是——他告诉了你——　13:51:20\n23　答：\n为什么？　13:51:21\n24　问：\n他告诉你——他在　13:51:22\n25　作出决定之后告诉了你；正确吗？　13:51:24\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 163 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　答：\n他向我简要说明了发生的情况。　13:51:26\n\n2　问：\n他告诉了你什么？　13:51:30\n3　答：\n关于这项DIP贷款，以及在短暂的期限内他没有　13:51:31\n4　足够的时间。\n他　13:51:38\n5　处理了这件事。　13:51:42\n6　问：\n好的。　13:51:43\n7　答：\n所以，对于时间短或类似紧急的事情，他总会　13:51:44\n8　告知我。　13:51:47\n9　问：\n好的。　13:51:51\n10　答：\n然后他就那样处理了。\n他向　13:51:52\n11　我作了简要说明。\n就是这样。　13:51:56\n12　问：\n好的。\n我再问你一次，他在　13:51:57\n13　向你简要说明时说了什么，然后我会——我会　13:52:01\n14　换一种问法。　13:52:04\n15　答：\n好的。　13:52:06\n16　问：\n如果你记得，他在向你简要说明时　13:52:06\n17　说了什么？\n我是说，这大概是一个月前的事？　13:52:09\n18　答：\n那么你问的是什么？\n比如，　13:52:14\n19　是简要说明发生的时间，还是DIP贷款发生的时间，先生？　13:52:16\n20　问：\n十五秒前，你好几次告诉我　13:52:18\n21　郭强先生向你作了简要说明。　13:52:22\n22　你记得吗？　13:52:26\n23　答：\n记得。　13:52:27\n24　问：\n他在向你简要说明时说了什么？　13:52:28\n25　答：\n他说他聘请了律师，并与　13:52:32\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 164 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　出借方的律师共同工作，然后——以　13:52:45\n\n2　处理DIP贷款。\n这就是他告诉　13:52:48\n3　我的内容。　13:52:53\n4　问：\n好的。\n那是你第一次听说　13:52:53\n5　DIP贷款吗？　13:52:57\n6　答：\n不是。　13:52:59\n7　问：\n你第一次是从谁那里听说这件事　13:53:01\n8　的？　13:53:05\n9　答：\n我从律师——我们的律师那里听说的。　13:53:06\n10　问：\n好的。\n是在与　13:53:10\n11　郭强的这次谈话之前？　13:53:13\n12　答：\n正确。\n是。　13:53:14\n13　问：\n你是否曾与郭文贵先生　13:53:23\n14　谈论过DIP贷款？　13:53:26\n15　答：\n我不记得。　13:53:29\n16　问：\n你有可能谈过吗？　13:53:32\n17　答：\n不太可能。\n我不记得。　13:53:36\n18　问：\n你多频繁与郭文贵先生交谈？　13:53:48\n19　答：\n哦，我们在有需要时见面。　13:53:51\n20　问：\n每周几次？　13:53:56\n21　答：\n有需要时。　13:54:00\n22　问：\n多于还是少于每周几次？　13:54:02\n23　答：\n有需要时。　13:54:07\n24　问：\n我的意思是，有需要时可能是每天二十次，　13:54:11\n25　王女士。　13:54:14\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 165 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　你每天和他谈二十次吗？　13:54:16\n\n2　答：\n显然不是。　13:54:19\n3　问：\n这并不显然，因为你不愿　13:54:20\n4　回答问题。　13:54:22\n5　你多频繁与他交谈？　13:54:23\n6　罗森先生：\n异议。　13:54:27\n7　证人：\n有需要时。　13:54:28\n8　罗森先生：\n律师，请明确一个时间　13:54:29\n9　范围。　13:54:32\n10　哈巴赫先生：\n当然。　13:54:33\n11　由哈巴赫先生询问：　13:54:34\n12　问：\n从你从某位律师那里得知DIP　13:54:34\n13　贷款之时起至今天，你与郭文贵先生　13:54:37\n14　交谈过多频繁？　13:54:44\n15　答：\n哦，我想我见过他，大概在　13:54:51\n16　一周多前——一周前。　13:54:55\n17　问：\n好的。\n那是一次。　13:54:58\n18　你还能想到其他次数吗？　13:55:04\n19　答：\n我不记得。　13:55:07\n20　问：\n在你记得的那一次，你是否　13:55:10\n21　与郭文贵先生讨论了DIP贷款？　13:55:15\n22　答：\n没有。　13:55:19\n23　问：\n你最近一次见到郭先生时——你　13:55:40\n24　说是在大约一周前——那是在　13:55:45\n25　Golden Spring (New York)的办公室吗？　13:55:48\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 166 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　答：\n是。　13:55:52\n\n2　问：\n好的。\n你记得在那次场合　13:55:52\n3　与他讨论了什么吗？　13:55:56\n4　答：\n我们只是——比如，我向他致意，就是，　13:55:58\n5　社交性的。　13:56:09\n6　他问我，你还好吗；对吗？　13:56:10\n7　所以就是这样，是的。　13:56:13\n8　我们聊天——他问我是否安全，　13:56:14\n9　我也同样问他。\n就是这样。\n我们没有——我们　13:56:17\n10　没有谈论其他事情。\n我不——我们没有。　13:56:20\n11　问：\n好的。\n那就只是——只是类似　13:56:23\n12　“你好，你怎么样”之类的事情？　13:56:26\n13　答：\n是。　13:56:29\n14　显然，我相信他当时在这里，像是　13:56:29\n15　与他的律师会面。\n而我——因为这是我的　13:56:33\n16　办公室；所以我安排办公室，比如，你知道，　13:56:39\n17　照料他们；比如，你知道，安排　13:56:44\n18　他们的食物和咖啡，那类事情；所以我的　13:56:46\n19　办公室为他们做了这些。　13:56:49\n20　问：\n你的办公室，还是你？　13:56:51\n21　答：\n我的办公室。\n我指示我的办公室去做　13:56:52\n22　那些事情。　13:56:58\n23　问：\n好的。\n你以作为　13:56:58\n24　Golden Spring总裁以及诸如此类职务的身份——你知道　13:57:16\n25　我所说“诸如此类”是什么意思；对吗？　13:57:20\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 167 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　答：\n我其实不知道那是什么意思。　13:57:23\n\n2　问：\n好的。　13:57:25\n3　答：\n“诸如此类”是什么意思？　13:57:26\n4　问：\n当然。　13:57:27\n5　我是指所有其他那些职务，总裁、　13:57:29\n6　秘书、财务主管、董事。　13:57:33\n7　你担任全部四项职务；对吗？　13:57:35\n8　答：\n正确。　13:57:37\n9　问：\n好的。\n你是唯一的总裁；　13:57:38\n10　正确吗？　13:57:40\n11　答：\n正确。　13:57:41\n12　问：\n唯一的财务主管；正确吗？　13:57:42\n13　答：\n是。　13:57:44\n14　问：\n好的。\n在这些职务中，你有权　13:57:44\n15　在未经郭强许可的情况下作出哪些　13:58:00\n16　决定？　13:58:06\n17　答：\n我在这里作出大部分日常经营决定。　13:58:06\n18　当然，我们见面或交谈时，我会向他简要说明，但　13:58:15\n19　我在这里自行作出，比如，日常经营　13:58:19\n20　决定。　13:58:25\n21　问：\n本案所涉的DIP贷款　13:58:26\n22　金额是多少？　13:58:29\n23　答：\nDIP贷款是 \\$8 million U.S.　13:58:30\n24　问：\n你从谁那里得知此事？　13:58:39\n25　答：\n我是从谁那里得到这个信息？\n从　13:58:41\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 168 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　郭强先生那里。　13:58:46\n\n2　问：\n好的。\n你知道 \\$8 million　13:58:46\n3　这个数额是怎么得来的吗？　13:58:54\n4　答：\n郭强先生告知我时，他告知我他　13:58:55\n5　也会处理这件事，就像我们一贯所做的那样。\n比如　13:59:06\n6　资金；例如，比如，你问他的　13:59:10\n7　父亲是否要求购买什么东西，比如，他会——我必须　13:59:14\n8　向他上报。\n他会以那种方式为他作出　13:59:17\n9　决定。　13:59:21\n10　问：\n我想了解的是，如果你知道，　13:59:22\n11　\\$8 million这个数额是如何确定的。　13:59:29\n12　罗森先生：\n我们可以请——请　13:59:33\n13　口译员翻译一下吗？　13:59:35\n14　我相信证人第一次可能误解了　13:59:36\n15　问题。　13:59:39\n16　哈巴赫先生：\n当然。　13:59:41\n17　约翰斯顿女士，你需要我重复一遍吗？　13:59:42\n18　口译员：\n是，请重复。　13:59:47\n19　由哈巴赫先生询问：　13:59:48\n20　问：\n王女士，我问的是，你是否知道　13:59:49\n21　\\$8 million这个数额是如何确定的。　13:59:55\n22　口译员：\n（问题已翻译。）　13:59:55\n23　证人：\n（通过口译员）　14:00:17\n24　我没有参与确定 \\$8 million 的过程；　14:00:22\n25　所以我没有任何亲身了解。　14:00:28\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 169 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　由哈巴赫先生询问：　14:00:32\n\n2　问：\n郭强先生是否曾告诉过你，　14:00:32\n3　\\$8 million这个数额是如何确定的？　14:00:35\n4　答：\n（用英语）\n没有。　14:00:38\n5　问：\n你熟悉DIP贷款的条款吗？　14:00:52\n6　　14:01:00\n7　答：\n你刚才问过我，是。\n现在，是。　14:01:01\n8　哈巴赫先生：\n请使用口译员。　14:01:11\n9　　14:01:13\n10　约翰斯顿女士，请问：\n你是否　14:01:15\n11　熟悉DIP贷款的条款？　14:01:19\n12　口译员：\n（问题已翻译。）　14:01:34\n13　证人：\n（通过口译员）　14:01:34\n14　这是我第一次参与此事；所以　14:01:50\n15　我知道这是一笔贷款。\n但我不熟悉　14:01:54\n16　其条款。　14:01:58\n17　由哈巴赫先生询问：　14:02:05\n18　问：\n你读过DIP贷款协议吗？　14:02:05\n19　答：\n（用英语）\n简略地，我看过，是。　14:02:08\n20　问：\n是什么时候？　14:02:17\n21　答：\n你是指什么时候，还是指什么？　14:02:18\n22　问：\n抱歉。　14:02:23\n23　什么时候？\n你是什么时候简略看过它的？　14:02:24\n24　答：\n哦，我相信是在我与　14:02:28\n25　律师准备时。　14:02:35\n\n1　问：\n好的。\n那是多久以前？　14:02:36\n2　答：\n抱歉。　14:02:40\n3　你的问题是什么？\n那是多久以前？　14:02:44\n4　　14:02:47\n5　问：\n是的，女士。　14:02:47\n6　我——我——我——我不关心　14:02:49\n7　任何律师告诉你的内容，但我　14:02:51\n8　关心你何时与他们会面。　14:02:54\n9　那么，你是在什么时候读了DIP贷款　14:02:56\n10　协议？　14:03:00\n11　答：\n你问的是何时；对吗？　14:03:01\n12　问：\n正确。　14:03:03\n13　答：\n在这次证言录取之前。\n昨天。　14:03:04\n14　问：\n昨天？　14:03:10\n15　答：\n是。　14:03:13\n16　问：\n昨天是否是你第一次看到　14:03:14\n17　DIP贷款协议？　14:03:19\n18　答：\n我知道它在昨天之前就存在，但　14:03:23\n19　我没有太过注意，直到我的律师，　14:03:28\n20　比如，为我作准备。　14:03:34\n21　问：\n昨天是否是你第一次看到DIP　14:03:36\n22　贷款协议？　14:03:40\n23　答：\n我不记得。\n我可能以前看过，　14:03:43\n24　但我记不起来。　14:03:46\n25　哈巴赫先生：\n斯科特，这个问题丝毫无意　14:03:54　第 145 页\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 170 页（共 280 页）\n\n案件 22-50073　文书 440-26　提交 05/25/22　录入 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 171 页（共 280 页）\n\n1　侵犯律师—当事人特权，但我希望　14:03:56\n\n2　您将会明白我为什么问这个问题。　14:04:01\n3　哈巴赫先生（Mr. Harbach）询问：　14:04:03\n4　问：王女士（Ms. Wang），您昨天与律师会面时，是否有口译员可以协助您？　14:04:04\n7　答：没有。　14:04:13\n8　问：您昨天阅读DIP贷款协议时，是否理解该协议？　14:04:18\n10　答：我知道那是一笔贷款。金额是8 million，利息为5 percent，并且最终须经法院批准。　14:04:31\n13　问：好的。您是否还知道该贷款所附条件的任何其他内容？　14:04:42\n15　答：我从阅读中得知，似乎有50 percent要支付给贷款人——不，是债务人的专业人士。另50 percent将用于支付U.S. Trustee和其他相关律师。　14:04:51\n19　问：您是否熟悉“违约事件”这一术语？　14:05:10\n21　答：您是指本DIP贷款协议中的？　14:05:15\n22　问：是的，女士。　14:05:21\n23　答：我没有注意这一点。　14:05:22\n24　问：您知道本DIP贷款协议中列明的任何违约事件是什么吗？　14:05:25\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 172 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我可以请口译员协助我处理这个问题吗？因为这涉及该DIP贷款的细节。　14:05:32\n3　问：当然可以。当然可以。　14:05:44\n4　哈巴赫先生：我会为约翰斯顿女士（Ms. Johnston）重复该问题。　14:05:46\n6　哈巴赫先生询问：　14:05:51\n7　问：您知道本DIP贷款协议中的任何违约事件是什么吗？　14:05:51\n9　口译员：（问题已口译。）　14:05:53\n10　证人：我不记得。　14:06:10\n11　哈巴赫先生询问：　14:06:10\n12　问：您是不记得，还是不知道？　14:06:10\n13　答：我不记得。　14:06:15\n14　问：您知道Arethusa Forsyth（阿雷图莎·福赛思）是谁吗？　14:06:17\n15　A-r-e-t-h-u-s-a，姓氏以F开头，如Frank，o-r-s-y-t-h。　14:06:50\n17　您知道该人士是谁吗？　14:07:00\n18　答：这是由郭强（Qiang Guo）先生聘请、处理该DIP贷款事务的律师。　14:07:04\n20　问：您是否有任何——撤回。您知道福赛思律师是如何获得报酬的吗？　14:07:10\n23　答：对不起。口译员，我可以请您协助吗？　14:07:29\n25　口译员：（问题已口译。）　14:07:30\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 173 页，共 280 页\n\n1　证人：啊，好的。再次说明，这不是我的母语。　14:07:39\n3　因此，郭强先生告知我，他也在处理此事。因为这位律师在英国执业，也就是郭强先生所在的地方。他会处理。Golden Spring（纽约）尚未收到发票。可能会收到，但我目前还没有见到。　14:07:42\n9　哈巴赫先生询问：　14:08:04\n10　问：那么，当郭强先生告诉您他会处理此事时，您理解其意思是Golden Spring (New York)（Golden Spring（纽约））将支付她的服务费用；对吗？　14:08:04\n14　答：这是我的理解。对于Golden Spring，我们尚未收到发票。如果我们收到该发票，我们会处理。　14:08:15\n17　问：好的。除您和郭强之外，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（Golden Spring（纽约）有限公司）现任还有其他高级管理人员和董事吗？　14:08:26\n20　答：没有。只有我和他。　14:09:03\n22　问：好的。我说得对吗，在2020年的几个月期间，您被一位名为Daniel Podhaskie（丹尼尔·波德哈斯基）的人替代，担任总裁，P-o-d-h-a-s-k-i-e？对吗？　14:09:05\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 174 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：正确。　14:09:37\n2　问：看来波德哈斯基先生担任这些职务的时间略少于两个月。您认为这大致正确吗？　14:09:38\n5　答：是。　14:09:55\n6　问：好的。那么他为什么在那几个月里替代您？　14:09:58\n8　答：因为我——我当时有个人问题，因此无法履行我的职务。　14:10:04\n10　问：我明白。当该个人问题解决后，您返回——　14:10:20\n13　答：是的。　14:10:28\n14　问：——对吗？　14:10:29\n15　答：是。是的。　14:10:30\n16　问：好的。您重新开始工作时，是否与波德哈斯基先生进行过情况交接？　14:10:31\n18　答：我不记得。　14:10:59\n19　问：好的。您是否记得，在与波德哈斯基先生的任何交谈中，他是否与郭文贵（Ho Wan Kwok）先生有联系？　14:11:02\n22　答：不记得。我们只是交接了日常运营工作。我的意思是，除此之外我不记得任何事情。　14:11:19\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 175 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：据您所知，截至今天，波德哈斯基先生目前是否为Golden Spring (New York)工作？　14:11:36\n4　答：没有。　14:11:48\n5　问：Golden Spring (New York)现任总法律顾问是谁？　14:11:50\n7　罗森先生（Mr. Rosen）：我对该问题提出异议。有人告知我，出于人身安全方面的原因，总法律顾问不希望披露其身份。　14:12:00\n11　哈巴赫先生：好的，Scott，我想我可以绕开这个问题。如果您想要打断，请不要犹豫，但我将尝试绕开该问题。好吗？　14:12:17\n16　罗森先生：好的。　14:12:27\n17　哈巴赫先生询问：　14:12:27\n18　问：王女士，您的律师不希望您说出姓名，但您知道Golden Spring (New York)现任总法律顾问是谁吗？　14:12:28\n21　答：是，我知道。　14:12:37\n22　问：好的。您与该人士沟通吗？　14:12:39\n24　答：是，我们沟通。　14:12:46\n25　问：频率如何？您多久与该人士沟通一次？　14:12:49\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 176 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我们沟通——不是每天，但每周数次。　14:12:53\n4　问：好的。我觉得有趣的是，您清楚记得您与总法律顾问交谈的频率，却不清楚记得您与郭文贵先生交谈的频率。您能解释一下吗？　14:13:06\n9　答：是的，先生。因为我是Golden Spring的总裁，与我的雇员沟通是我的工作，包括我的总法律顾问和其余雇员；因此那是我的工作。我受薪做这项工作；因此，郭文贵先生——我的意思是，我们不定期沟通，或者说，不像您所说的那样有规律地沟通。我们在有需要时沟通。我的意思是，他不是雇员，对吗？而且我不向他汇报；那么，我为什么应该保持那种频率，并与一个不属于我工作范围的人交谈呢？　14:13:31\n22　问：请稍等。等一下。　14:14:14\n24　Golden Spring现任总法律顾问何时受聘？　14:14:49\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 177 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：不到两年前。　14:14:53\n2　问：好的。　14:15:05\n3　答：不到——接近两年前。　14:15:11\n4　问：大约两年前？　14:15:14\n5　答：是。大约两年前。略多或略少。　14:15:17\n7　问：好的。您是否参与了聘用该人士的决定？　14:15:22\n9　答：是。作为公司总裁，我作出所有关于招聘的决定。　14:15:30\n12　问：您为该职位面试了多少其他人？　14:15:41\n14　答：哇。我的意思是，如果可以这么说，我招聘时相当挑剔；所以我确实面试了数名候选人。　14:15:47\n17　问：您知道现任总法律顾问在来到Golden Spring之前紧接着在哪里工作吗？　14:16:04\n20　答：您能再重复一遍吗？　14:16:20\n21　问：可以。　14:16:23\n22　答：对不起。　14:16:24\n23　问：您说您参与聘用的Golden Spring总法律顾问，在来到Golden Spring之前紧接着在哪里工作，如果您知道的话？　14:16:25\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 178 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我知道，但我不便提供有关我现任雇员的任何细节——　14:16:41\n4　问：好的。　14:16:47\n5　答：——包括其先前雇主。　14:16:48\n6　问：这样如何？　14:16:51\n7　答：又是出于该安全原因。　14:16:52\n8　问：告诉我——告诉我——告诉我总法律顾问在来到Golden Spring之前工作的那家公司的第一个字母。　14:16:54\n11　罗森先生：异议。这——这是同一个问题。　14:17:02\n13　哈巴赫先生：因为是第一个字母？　14:17:10\n14　罗森先生：我们不是在玩二十个问题的游戏。David，拜托。　14:17:12\n16　哈巴赫先生询问：　14:17:24\n17　问：总法律顾问的前任雇主——总法律顾问前任雇主的身份，是否是您决定聘用该人士时考虑的因素？　14:17:24\n21　答：嗯，先生，我不理解您的问题。我可以请口译员协助我吗？对不起。　14:17:44\n24　问：没问题。　14:17:51\n25　哈巴赫先生：约翰斯顿女士，开始吧。　14:17:52\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 179 页，共 280 页\n\n1　哈巴赫先生询问：　14:17:55\n2　问：总法律顾问前任雇主的身份，是否是您决定聘用该人士时考虑的因素？　14:17:55\n5　口译员：（问题已口译。）　14:18:24\n6　证人：当我面试和聘用人员时，在我之前的前任雇主也确实是一个因素。而且，显然，我想聘用高素质人才，对吗？他们来自哪里确实重要。此外，我仍然关心他们对前一份工作的忠诚度。您已经——我不喜欢雇员或候选人过于频繁地更换工作。但除此之外，我也关心面试——面试时的感觉，对吗？　14:18:31\n17　理解能力、沟通能力和人际交往能力，当然还有专业能力，所有这些都重要；因此，回答您的问题，前任雇主确实重要，但这不是我决定发出录用通知的唯一原因。　14:19:11\n23　哈巴赫先生询问：　14:19:31\n24　问：在招聘过程中，您是否联系过该总法律顾问的前任雇主？　14:19:31\n\n案件 22-50073 文档 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 180 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我记得当时我的人力资源部门，他们　14:19:42\n\n进行了背景调查和推荐人核查。　14:19:47\n\n我不是亲自做的。我让一家公司来做。　14:19:51　14:19:54\n\n问：那么，您本人没有与此人之前的雇主中的任何人交谈过；对吗？　14:19:54　14:19:57\n\n答：我的意思是，我管理整个，呃，员工事务。作为公司总裁，我的理解是，人力资源部门会为我做这件事；对吗？　14:20:03　14:20:06　14:20:09　14:20:12\n\n问：您知道，Wang女士（王女士），这是一个简单的问题。我并不是说您本应当这样做。我只是问您是否做过。　14:20:14　14:20:17　14:20:20\n\n答：没有，我没有。　14:20:21\n\n问：好的。　14:20:23\n\n答：我的人力资源部门做了这件事，是的。　14:20:24\n\n问：好的。您本人是否为此人拨打过任何推荐人电话？　14:20:27　14:20:30\n\n答：没有。我没有做过。不过我——我——就本人而言，我——亲自没有。　14:20:32　14:20:35　14:20:40\n\n问：但您的理解是，您人力资源部门中的某人做过？　14:20:43　14:20:44\n\n答：正确。　14:20:46\n\n问：除总法律顾问外，Golden Spring (New York)（金泉〈纽约〉）是否还有其他内部律师？　14:20:47\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 181 页，共 280 页\n\n答：您问的是哪个时间段，先生？　14:21:04\n\n问：目前。　14:21:10\n\n答：没有。　14:21:12\n\n问：Golden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〈纽约〉有限公司）目前有多少名员工？　14:21:14　14:21:26\n\nROSEN先生（罗森先生）：我相信该信息此前已经提供。而且我相信，大卫，您知悉员工问题的敏感性。我——我认为我们不反对回答有多少名员工，但我请求您不要——不要涉及与此相关的任何个人或识别性信息。　14:21:34　14:21:36　14:21:41　14:21:45　14:21:50　14:21:54　14:21:57\n\nHARBACH先生（哈巴赫先生）：是的。我——我——谢谢你，Scott（斯科特）。我理解 Golden Spring (New York) 的立场，正如其律师向我们陈述并由债务人律师在——在先前程序中重申的那样；因此，为本次证言录取之目的，我将尊重您的请求，同时记录在案，我们强烈不同意其——其依据。　14:22:00　14:22:02　14:22:04　14:22:06　14:22:09　14:22:14　14:22:22　14:22:25　14:22:29\n\nHARBACH先生提问：　14:22:33\n\n问：那么目前，Wang女士，我的问题仅仅是员工人数。　14:22:33\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 182 页，共 280 页\n\n目前有多少名员工在 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 工作？　14:22:36　14:22:38　14:22:43\n\n答：哦，目前我相信大约有十四人，包括我本人。　14:22:45　14:22:53\n\n问：包括您？　14:22:55\n\n答：是。　14:22:58\n\n问：这也包括 Qiang Guo（郭强）先生吗？还是不包括？　14:22:58　14:23:04\n\n答：不包括。　14:23:05\n\n问：好的。那么您和总法律顾问——包括那个人吗？　14:23:05　14:23:10\n\n答：正确。　14:23:13\n\n问：好的。那么您、总法律顾问，以及另外十二人？　14:23:14　14:23:21\n\n答：是。　14:23:23\n\n问：这些人是否全都在家族办公室工作？　14:23:23　14:23:32\n\nROSEN先生：我对这个问题提出异议。存在我已获悉的人身安全问题。如果——如果——如果您愿意，大卫，我有一份 Golden Spring 安保团队的声明，可以将其宣读并记入记录。如果——如果——如果您认为适当的话。但是——　14:23:36　14:23:38　14:23:41　14:23:47　14:23:50　14:23:54\n\nHARBACH先生：我——我感谢这一点，Scott。　14:23:59\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 183 页，共 280 页\n\n我的意思是，我——正如我先前所说，我们——我们理解您所采取的立场。如果您的立场是，所有员工是否在同一地点工作会带来安全风险，因此您将指示证人不要回答，这没有问题。我只是在记录中说明，我们——我们不同意，并保留向法官提出该问题的权利，如同我们对今天提出的几乎所有异议所做的那样。但是——但是——但是，如果您同意，这对于目前目的而言已足够。　14:24:02　14:24:05　14:24:08　14:24:13　14:24:16　14:24:19　14:24:22　14:24:26　14:24:30　14:24:34　14:24:36\n\nROSEN先生：是的。那——那没问题。　14:24:37　14:24:38\n\nHARBACH先生：好的。　14:24:40\n\nHARBACH先生提问：　14:24:41\n\n问：Golden Spring——就——就您所知而言，Wang女士，Golden Spring (New York) Limited 是否预计将获得 DIP 贷款的偿还？　14:24:52　14:24:54　14:24:59　14:25:05\n\n答：这是贷款，是的。Golden Spring 将预计获得偿还。　14:25:06　14:25:12\n\n问：我们先前谈到过银行账户之类的事情，而我——我并不打算重启那一堆麻烦，但我要问这个确切的问题。　14:25:14　14:25:30　14:25:33　14:25:38\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 184 页，共 280 页\n\n如果 DIP 贷款获批，为其提供资金的款项来源是什么？　14:25:38　14:25:41\n\n答：这将由 Qiang Guo 先生直接安排。　14:25:43　14:25:53\n\n问：如果 DIP 贷款获批，为其提供资金的款项来源是什么？　14:25:53　14:25:58\n\n答：这将由 Qiang Guo 先生直接安排。　14:26:06　14:26:08\n\n问：您知道这笔钱将来自哪里吗？　14:26:08\n\n答：尚未有人告知我，但 Qiang Guo 先生说他会处理此事，正如他一贯所做的那样。　14:26:13　14:26:19\n\n问：那么您是 Golden Spring 的总裁和司库。正如我被无数次提醒的那样，您今天在此就一笔 DIP 贷款作证。而您的证言是，您不知道为 DIP 贷款提供资金的钱来自哪里。我说得对吗？　14:26:22　14:26:25　14:26:29　14:26:35　14:26:39　14:26:45\n\nROSEN先生：异议。这歪曲了证人的证言。您可以回答该问题。　14:26:47　14:26:48　14:26:55\n\n证人：据我理解，这将由 Qiang Guo 先生直接以其——或其财富安排，正如我们一贯所做的那样。　14:26:56　14:26:58　14:27:06\n\nHARBACH先生提问：　14:27:10\n\n问：他这样告诉您了吗？　14:27:11\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 185 页，共 280 页\n\n答：他告诉我，他会处理此事。　14:27:15\n\n问：他告诉过您这笔钱来自哪里吗？　14:27:18　14:27:20\n\n答：到目前为止还没有。但他说他会处理此事，正如他一贯所做的那样。　14:27:21　14:27:26\n\n问：您问过他这笔钱来自哪里吗？　14:27:27　14:27:30\n\n答：我没有。　14:27:31\n\n问：好的。　14:27:37\n\n答：他说他会处理此事。　14:27:39\n\n问：不。我——我——我明白他表示会处理此事。我只是问您是否知道这笔钱来自哪里，而且——而且我认为我已经得到答案了。　14:27:40　14:27:41　14:27:43　14:27:46　14:27:49\n\n答：我们彼此之间有多年的信任。他作为公司的所有人，说他会处理此事，我就让他做他那一部分。我在做我那一部分；对吗？那么——　14:27:51　14:27:54　14:27:57　14:28:01\n\n问：听着，那——那没有问题。但您被指定为 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 中了解我们已通知的所有这些主题的人。其中一个主题是 Golden Spring 用于为 DIP 贷款协议融资的资金来源。因此我——我只是问您是否知道，而且为明确起见，您的回答是您不知道，但 Qiang Guo 说他会处理此事，这对您而言已足够。　14:28:05　14:28:07　14:28:11　14:28:14　14:28:17　14:28:21\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 186 页，共 280 页\n\nROSEN先生：那是——异议。这歪曲了证言。　14:28:26　14:28:31　14:28:35　14:28:38　14:28:40\n\nHARBACH先生：哦，Scott，这怎么歪曲了证言？　14:28:42　14:28:44\n\nROSEN先生：因为她还作证说，这可能来自他的财富。　14:28:45　14:28:47\n\nHARBACH先生提问：　14:28:47\n\n问：好的。那么他——他这样说了吗？我的问题是，他这样对您说了吗？他是否说过：“我——我将从我的财富中处理此事”？这是他所说的吗？　14:28:50　14:28:57　14:28:59　14:29:02\n\n答：正确。　14:29:09\n\n问：他是这样对您说的吗？　14:29:09\n\n答：是。我们一贯会聊天。他向我简要说明。他说：“我会处理此事。你不用担心。”而我有地方要租。根据我多年来的理解，那将来自他的财富。　14:29:12　14:29:13　14:29:17　14:29:20　14:29:23\n\n问：好的。那么他没有对您说：“我会用我的钱处理此事。”他只是说：“我会处理此事。”而基于您多年来与他的经验，您理解这意味着来自他的财富。　14:29:26　14:29:29　14:29:34　14:29:39\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 187 页，共 280 页\n\n我说得对吗？　14:29:42　14:29:43\n\n答：您提醒我，比如，他说“我有。我会处理此事。”那是他的，如我们所说，逐字引述。他这样对我说。根据我的理解，那将来自他的——他的财富。　14:29:45　14:29:51　14:29:55　14:29:58\n\n问：好的。这次谈话是在什么时候？　14:30:00\n\n答：那也是昨天。　14:30:03\n\n问：昨天是否是您第一次得知用于为 DIP 贷款协议融资的资金来源将来自哪里的时间？　14:30:06　14:30:17　14:30:24\n\n答：为了准备今天的证言录取，他跟我稍微过了一下这项 DIP 贷款安排。　14:30:30　14:30:37　14:30:41\n\n问：好的。　14:30:43\n\n答：是。他向我提到：“我有。我会处理此事——”　14:30:44　14:30:46\n\n问：好。　14:30:48\n\n答：——您知道，作为一次谈话。　14:30:49\n\n问：可以。我的唯一问题是，当他昨天告诉您“我有。我会处理此事”时，这是否是您第一次得知 DIP 贷款资金来源会是什么？　14:30:50　14:30:51　14:30:54　14:30:58　14:31:03\n\n答：那是我听他这样说的时候，因为我需要准备今天的证言录取。但我知道他多年来一直有这笔钱；所以并不是，比如说，第一次——对吗？——我得知“哦，你有钱”。并不是那种情况。我知道他有钱。　14:31:05\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 188 页，共 280 页\n\n14:31:11　14:31:15　14:31:20　14:31:23\n\n问：哦，我明白了。我明白您的意思。而且，请相信我，我并不是想说昨天是您第一次得知他有钱。完全不是。我明白这一点。我——我试图聚焦的是，昨天是否是您第一次得知，为 DIP 贷款提供资金的钱将来自 Qiang Guo？　14:31:25　14:31:28　14:31:31　14:31:35　14:31:36　14:31:38　14:31:44　14:31:47\n\n答：那是我听他这样说的时候，是的。　14:31:52\n\n问：好的。您对于 DIP 贷款将如何偿还有何理解？如果您知道的话。　14:31:55　14:32:04\n\n答：我不知道。　14:32:11\n\n问：好的。各位，请给我十秒钟。请原谅。　14:32:13　14:32:31\n\n好的。谢谢各位。　14:33:24\n\n更换话题。　14:33:29\n\nWang女士，Golden Spring (New York) Limited 是否有您所知的任何公司章程？　14:33:37　14:33:45　14:33:49\n\n答：有。我们确实有公司章程。　14:33:50　14:33:50\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，登记于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 189 页，共 280 页\n\n问：好的。这些公司章程是否载明任何内容？　14:33:52\n\n关于公司的决策及其作出方式？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。这些章程中是否包括关于——总裁和司库应如何参与的规则？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。据您所知，自您在那里工作以来，Golden Spring（纽约金泉）是否一直在该等章程的约束范围内适当运营？\n\n答：先生，您所说的“适当”是什么意思？\n\n问：嗯，在您任职Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）期间，是否遵循了章程中规定的规则？\n\n答：我的意思是，我们是一家家族办公室。我的意思是，我们是一家私人公司和家族办公室。我整个职业生涯都直接为Qiang Guo（郭强）先生工作；因此，比如说，他授权我作出决定。我与他沟通。我的意思是，我们没有问题。如果缺少任何文书材料，并不意味着任何人故意做了任何错误的事情；因此，我们是一家家族办公室。\n\n问：我当然并未暗示有任何不当行为，更不是故意的不当行为。我问您公司是否有章程。您回答是。\n\n我的下一个问题是，据您所知，自您在那里工作以来，公司是否一直遵守该章程？\n\nROSEN先生：反对。这个问题——这个问题——这个问题过于宽泛。您具体是在询问章程的哪个方面？\n\nHARBACH先生：嗯，我试图聚焦于决策以及总裁和司库的权限；所以我想我会那样提问。\n\nHARBACH先生提问：\n\n问：自您在Golden Spring（纽约金泉）任职以来，有关总裁和司库授权及权力的章程规定是否得到遵守？\n\nROSEN先生：反对。该章程未载入记录。该——该——该问题极其含糊。但您可以回答。\n\n证人：我和Qiang Guo（郭强）先生基于我们一致——一致——我们一致的协议及适当授权，管理Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）。\n\nHARBACH先生提问：\n\n问：好的。让我换一个问题。当您于2018年春季被任命为Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）的总裁、秘书、司库时——这——这正是我所关注的时间——您是否知道，该公司的特许证书自2017年3月1日起已失效且无效？\n\nROSEN先生：反对。假定了记录中不存在的事实。\n\n证人：我不记得。\n\nHARBACH先生提问：\n\n问：您是否记得曾代表Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）签署恢复——恢复证书，以纠正该问题？\n\n答：我不记得。如果您有文件，先生，您可以提醒我。\n\n问：请稍等一下。好的。我想我们很快会出示另一份证物，也许能帮助您回忆。\n\nHARBACH先生：对。是808。对。是808。\n\n（第5号证言证物被标记供识别。）\n\nHARBACH先生：感谢您的耐心。\n\n我想我们已经拿到该文件了。\n\n证人：抱歉。先生，我们可以在这份文件之后休息一下吗？\n\nHARBACH先生提问：\n\n问：当然可以。\n\n答：谢谢。\n\n问：好的。即将显示的是第5号证物。好了。\n\n好的。我刚才把自己静音了。抱歉。您能否翻到第5号证物的最后一页？\n\n答：（证人照做。）是的。我在这一页。\n\n问：好的。您看到这份文件的标题是“特拉华州，公司特许证书恢复证书”吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：底部有一个签名。那是您的签名吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：该页最右下角写着——那里有一个印章，显示已提交——我想上面显示的时间是10:23:18。\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。这就是我大约一分钟前问您的问题。在第三段中，其写道，该公司最初的公司设立证书在特拉华州的提交日期为03/10/2015。您看到了吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：因此，2015年3月10日显然是Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的设立日期。\n\n然后，如果您看第五段，其写道：\n\n“该公司经适当组织成立，并依其特许证书所授权的范围开展业务，直至2017年3月1日；届时，其特许证书因未缴纳税款和/或未提交完整年度报告而失效且无效，并且恢复证书是依照特拉华州法律，经公司经适当选举产生的董事授权而提交的。”\n\n在我阅读时，您能够跟上吗？\n\n答：是。\n\n问：好的。那么，现在这是否唤起您对于下列问题的记忆：当您于2018年春季受聘于Golden Spring（纽约金泉）时，该特许证书是否已变为失效且无效？\n\n答：先生，您的问题是什么？您期待我回答吗？\n\n问：是的，女士。在我找到这份文件之前，当我问您同一个问题时，您说您不记得或没有印象。您还对我说，如果您有任何文件，也许能帮助我；因此，我向您出示一份文件，试图帮助您。\n\n问题是，看到这份文件是否唤起您对于下列问题的记忆：在您于2018年春季开始在Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）履职时，该公司事实上是否已经失效——更正。\n\n该公司的特许证书已失效且无效。\n\n答：所以您是在问我为什么？还是您的问题是什么，先生？为什么还是——\n\n问：我问的是，这是否确实属实：在您于2018年春季受聘时——好的？——在当时，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的特许证书是否失效且无效。\n\nROSEN先生：反对。该——该文件本身即说明一切。\n\nHARBACH先生：确实如此，Scott。这很公平。遗憾的是，本案诉讼的历史表明，有时文件明明不是，却被质疑为不真实和伪造；所以恐怕我必须提出这个问题。\n\nROSEN先生：您可以回答该问题。\n\n证人：先生，我不——我不知道在我正式受聘之前发生了什么，但如果您完整阅读Golden Spring的材料，包括，我相信，公司是由Williams & Connolly（威廉斯与康诺利律师事务所）的律师设立的。律师的姓名载于第三页，Jerry L. Shulman（杰里·L·舒尔曼）；所以我知道——我后来了解到——Jerry是Qiang Guo（郭强）先生的律师。Williams & Connolly则是，比如说——技术上讲——负责Golden Spring的特许证书、文件材料，您知道，所有文书材料；所以对您的回答是，比如说，在我受聘时——当然，我不知道我之前发生了什么，但显然，当时律师Jerry Shulman——维护了这里的记录，或以某种方式纠正了记录，而我并不知道在我之前的情况。\n\nHARBACH先生提问：\n\n问：好的。稍等一下。好的。我们以为大楼里正在进行消防演习，但这只是一项测试。抱歉有噪音。\n\nWang（王）女士，我明白您所说的话。您签署了这份文件，并于2018年10月在特拉华州提交。您记得签署该文件吗？\n\n答：我不记得。那是很多年前的事。\n\n问：我理解，根据您刚才所说的话，如果我问您，您是如何得知Golden Spring的特许证书已失效且无效，您会说是从您提到的那位律师那里得知的；对吗？\n\n答：我是从您向我出示的证物中读到这一点的。律师Jerry Shulman的姓名就在上面。显然，我理解，他此前就在处理此事。\n\n问：好的。您是否记得曾与Shulman先生交谈？\n\n答：我不记得。\n\n问：您记得Shulman先生——即拼作S-h-u-l-m，如Mary，再加a-n。您记得他是Williams & Connolly（威廉斯与康诺利律师事务所）的律师；对吗？\n\n答：是的，他是Williams & Connolly的律师。\n\n问：好的。您是否说过——请确认我没有听错。您是否说过——他和Williams & Connolly（威廉斯与康诺利律师事务所）代理Qiang Guo（郭强）？\n\n答：在这些.pdf——在这些证物中，Williams & Connolly、Jerry Shulman——Jerry也代理Golden Spring Limited。\n\n问：好的。Shulman先生是否代理Qiang Guo（郭强）？\n\n答：我——\n\n问：因为我相信您几分钟前就是这么说的。我只是想确认我没有听错。\n\n答：我相信是这样。\n\n问：好的。据您所知，Williams & Connolly（威廉斯与康诺利律师事务所）的Shulman先生是否代理Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）？\n\n答：我不知道。\n\n问：好的。屏幕上的文件称，该特许证书失效且无效的原因是未缴纳税款和/或未提交完整年度报告。您知道其中哪一项原因，或两项原因，导致Golden Spring的特许证书失效吗？\n\n2　失效并无效？　14:50:03\n3　答。\n如我所说，在我之前发生了什么，我不　14:50:05\n4　知道。\n但自从我被任命以来，Golden Spring（黄金泉）从未　14:50:14\n5　出现过这个问题。　14:50:20\n6　问。\n好的。\n嗯，显然，在你被任命后的六个月内，它一直存在这个问题，因为　14:50:21\n7　恢复证明直到十月才提交；所以　14:50:24\n8　我会问同一个问题。\n也许你不知道。　14:50:28\n9　如果你不知道也没关系，但我所能做的　14:50:35\n10　就是提问。　14:50:37\n11　你知道章程失效并无效的原因是什么吗？　14:50:40\n12　　14:50:41\n13　　14:50:45\n14　答。\n我不知道原因，但我无法　14:50:53\n15　从被任命的第一天起就修复在我之前发生的一切；　14:50:56\n16　对吗？　14:51:00\n17　所以，六个月是一个合理的时间。\n但是　14:51:02\n18　我需要花时间，然后开始赶上进度，　14:51:04\n19　修复在我之前发生的事情。　14:51:08\n20　问。\n是的。谢谢你。　14:51:09\n21　你要求短暂休庭。　14:51:19\n22　HARBACH 先生（哈巴赫）：\n那我们现在就休庭吧。　14:51:21\n23　　14:51:23\n24　让大家知道一下——我不太愿意这么说，　14:51:24\n25　但我快结束了。我们何不　14:51:28\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 199 页，共 280 页\n\n1　休庭至 3:00。　14:51:33\n\n2　录像员：\n现在停止记录。　14:51:36\n3　　14:51:37\n4　时间为下午 2:51。　14:51:37\n5　（短暂休庭。）　15:02:54\n6　录像员：\n现在恢复记录。　15:02:54\n7　　15:02:57\n8　时间为 3:02。　15:02:57\n9　HARBACH 先生：\n各位，抱歉。这里的扬声器　15:03:28\n10　播放了一则很响的通知。　15:03:30\n11　这就是我一直处于静音状态的原因。　15:03:34\n12　HARBACH 先生询问：　15:03:34\n13　问。\n王女士（Wang），在我们　15:03:38\n14　进入下一个话题之前，还有一个补充问题。　15:03:42\n15　你能否说明一下，自你担任总裁以来，　15:03:44\n16　Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）所进行的一项成功投资　15:03:49\n17　？　15:03:53\n18　答。\n自我被任命为总裁以来；那么，　15:03:55\n19　第一项工作当然是组建整个团队，　15:04:10\n20　然后恢复运营。之后，我们确实　15:04:13\n21　讨论并推进过一些项目。　15:04:22\n22　但是，由于一宗名为 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）的诉讼，　15:04:26\n23　我的意思是，我们的银行余额受到了非常严重的损害；所以　15:04:35\n24　我们无法完成整个投资　15:04:39\n25　项目。不过，我们之前确实有一些——很有前景的　15:04:43\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 200 页，共 280 页\n\n1　项目。　15:04:49\n\n2　问。\n好的。\n撇开有前景的项目不谈，Golden Spring 是否　15:04:50\n3　进行过任何投资项目，且该项目自你担任　15:04:55\n4　总裁以来已经　15:05:02\n5　成功？　15:05:05\n6　答。\n如我刚才所解释的，由于我们与银行的　15:05:06\n7　关系受到 Pacific Alliance 的损害；所以我们　15:05:10\n8　无法完成一个完整且成功的　15:05:16\n9　项目——投资项目。　15:05:20\n10　问。\n好的。所以——所以答案是否定的？　15:05:22\n11　答。\n正确。　15:05:25\n12　问。\n好的。你在成为 Golden Spring　15:05:26\n13　(New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）的高级职员和董事之前，是否认识郭强（Qiang Guo）　15:05:37\n14　？　15:05:42\n15　答。\n是。　15:05:42\n16　问。\n好的。你能否向我说明一项　15:05:42\n17　自你认识郭强以来，他所创办的成功商业企业　15:05:48\n18　？　15:05:54\n19　答。\n出于显而易见的原因，我不想让他的业务或任何　15:05:57\n20　具体名称面临任何风险。\n但是　15:06:06\n21　我能告诉你的是，他在投资领域一直非常　15:06:10\n22　成功，在——在　15:06:13\n23　不同国家都是如此。　15:06:19\n24　问。\n而且，他用于投资的资金　15:06:21\n25　是不是来自他父亲？　15:06:25\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 201 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答。不是。　15:06:30\n\n2　问。\n来自哪里？　15:06:31\n\n3　答。\n来自他自己成功的投资。　15:06:33\n4　问。\n好的。我问的是他最初　15:06:42\n5　为取得成功而投资的资金，那些资金难道不是　15:06:46\n6　来自他父亲吗？　15:06:52\n7　答。\n不是。　15:06:54\n8　问。\n好的。来自哪里？　15:06:55\n9　答。\n据我——据我所知，资金来自　15:06:58\n10　他的家人——他的大家庭。　15:07:05\n11　问。\n谁告诉你的？　15:07:08\n12　答。\n我是从他那里得知的。　15:07:12\n13　问。\n这是他告诉你的？　15:07:14\n14　答。\n（点头。）　15:07:17\n15　问。\n好的。下一个话题，你是否记得我们今天稍早　15:07:21\n16　我向你解释过，　15:07:28\n17　我们刚刚谈论了一段时间的 DIP 贷款，　15:07:31\n18　与用于资助诉讼的贷款之间　15:07:35\n19　存在区别？你记得吗？　15:07:39\n20　答。\n是。　15:07:43\n21　问。\n好的。那么现在我想谈谈　15:07:45\n22　第二类，即　15:07:50\n23　Golden Spring (New York) 向郭文贵（Ho Wan Kwok）提供的、用于　15:07:55\n24　诉讼的贷款。　15:08:02\n25　好的？　15:08:04\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 202 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答。是。　15:08:06\n\n2　问。好的。\n所以，我——目前我不　15:08:06\n3　谈 DIP 贷款。　15:08:09\n4　你明白吗？　15:08:11\n5　答。是。　15:08:12\n6　问。好的。\n根据郭文贵先生所述，　15:08:15\n7　Golden Spring (New York) 已向他贷款约　15:08:23\n8　\\$21 million，用于支付诉讼费用。　15:08:29\n9　我要问你的是：你是否知道此事？　15:08:35\n10　答。是。　15:08:39\n11　问。好的。\n谁请求了这些贷款？　15:08:43\n12　答。谁请求了这些贷款？你的意思是——　15:08:47\n13　我的意思是，你能进一步解释一下这个问题吗？　15:08:59\n14　问。是谁请求 Golden Spring (New York)　15:09:05\n15　Limited 向其提供这些贷款，以支付　15:09:10\n16　郭文贵先生的诉讼费用？　15:09:16\n17　答。我相信他们是直接向　15:09:21\n18　郭强先生，即 Golden Spring 的所有者，借款——提出请求的。　15:09:28\n19　问。你所说的借款人，是指郭文贵先生？　15:09:38\n20　答。是的。　15:09:38\n21　问。你是否有上限——撤回。　15:09:44\n22　所以，父亲要求儿子提供贷款。　15:09:45\n23　这是你的理解吗？　15:09:52\n24　答。是。　15:09:54\n25　问。好的。\n谁代表　15:09:54\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 203 页，共 280 页\n\n1　Golden Spring (New York) 批准了这些贷款？　15:10:03\n\n2　答。\n这些贷款由郭强先生和　15:10:06\n3　我本人以 Golden Spring 总裁的身份共同批准。　15:10:13\n4　问。\n你是如何得知所请求的　15:10:18\n5　贷款的？　15:10:20\n6　答。\n我从郭强先生那里听说的。　15:10:22\n7　问。\n你是否曾与　15:10:28\n8　郭文贵先生就这些贷款进行过任何交谈？　15:10:30\n9　答。\n没有。　15:10:34\n10　我不记得。　15:10:37\n11　问。\n好的。你从未问过他这笔钱　15:10:38\n12　是做什么用的？　15:10:43\n13　答。\n没有。　15:10:44\n14　那是　15:10:47\n15　郭强先生和郭文贵先生之间的谈话。　15:10:48\n16　问。\n好的。郭文贵先生所请求的任何诉讼贷款　15:10:51\n17　是否有被拒绝的？　15:11:04\n18　答。\n有。　15:11:12\n19　问。\n被谁拒绝？　15:11:14\n20　答。\n被郭强先生拒绝。　15:11:17\n21　问。\n你以　15:11:20\n22　总裁身份是否同意应当拒绝该贷款？　15:11:25\n23　答。\n我赞同郭强先生的拒绝决定。　15:11:29\n24　问。\n好的。对于涉及数百万　15:11:35\n25　美元事项的决定，你是否从未不赞同他的　15:11:38\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 204 页，共 280 页\n\n1　决定？　15:11:42\n2　答。是。　15:11:43\n3　问。好的。你能否说明一次　15:11:47\n4　你的意见占了上风的情形？　15:11:51\n5　答。例如，我作出所有有关　15:11:56\n6　日常运营的决定，包括服装——　15:12:00\n7　问。我不是在问——我不是在问　15:12:04\n8　日常运营。我问的是一项　15:12:07\n9　涉及超过一百万美元的决定。　15:12:11\n10　是否曾经有过——　15:12:15\n11　答。我不明白你在问　15:12:17\n12　什么。超过一百万美元非常笼统。　15:12:20\n13　我的意思是，我不明白你在问什么，先生。　15:12:23\n14　问。好的。你刚才告诉我　15:12:25\n15　曾有几次你不同意　15:12:28\n16　郭强先生；对吗？　15:12:31\n17　答。是的。　15:12:33\n18　问。好的。我问你的是，你和他之间是否曾　15:12:34\n19　就一项涉及　15:12:38\n20　超过一百万美元的决定发生分歧？　15:12:43\n21　答。超过一百万美元？　15:12:48\n22　问。是。　15:12:52\n23　答。我的意思是，我们最开始确实曾就一些潜在投资　15:12:53\n24　项目存在分歧；所以我们没有达成一致，而他被　15:12:58\n25　说服了，如果那就是你所说的。　15:13:01\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 205 页，共 280 页\n\n1　　15:13:05\n\n2　问。\n嗯，我不是在说任何具体事情。　15:13:11\n3　我只是提问。我试图了解　15:13:15\n4　你作为 Golden Spring (New York)　15:13:18\n5　Limited 的总裁和财务主管究竟拥有何种实际权限。　15:13:21\n6　因为你至今告诉我的情况是，　15:13:24\n7　DIP 贷款由郭强先生批准，　15:13:28\n8　没有征求你的意见，而他告诉你他会处理此事，　15:13:33\n9　对你而言就足够了。而且　15:13:38\n10　谈到诉讼资金时，你告诉我　15:13:42\n11　父亲要求儿子，而你从未　15:13:45\n12　就此与父亲交谈过，甚至没有问他　15:13:49\n13　这笔钱是做什么用的。　15:13:51\n14　所以我试图了解的是　15:13:53\n15　你的角色究竟是什么。我的意思是，我知道你的　15:13:56\n16　职务头衔，但我试图了解你的　15:14:00\n17　角色；所以这就是我问这些问题的原因。　15:14:03\n18　所以我的问题是，你能否指出某一次你曾　15:14:08\n19　就一项涉及　15:14:13\n20　超过一百万美元的决定与　15:14:18\n21　郭强先生意见不一致？　15:14:23\n22　答。\n是。　15:14:26\n23　问。\n好的。是最近什么时候？　15:14:27\n24　答。\n你说最近是什么意思？我已经　15:14:30\n25　解释过，例如，关于我被任命的时候　15:14:35\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 206 页，共 280 页\n\n1　以及——　15:14:38\n\n2　问。\n好的。　15:14:39\n3　答。\n——关于投资项目的分歧。　15:14:39\n4　我说的是纽约的房地产或投资项目。　15:14:43\n5　　15:14:47\n6　问。\n好的。那是——　15:14:47\n7　答。\n我没有说服他。我没有说服　15:14:49\n8　他。那些项目全都是超过一百万美元的项目；　15:14:51\n9　对吗？　15:14:54\n10　而且我——而且我今天下午——今天上午刚刚作证，　15:14:54\n11　他作出了关于车辆的决定，我并不赞同该决定。　15:14:56\n12　　15:15:00\n13　当然，我们没有达成一致，而他购买了　15:15:06\n14　那些汽车。因为我不同意；所以那就是为什么　15:15:09\n15　即使作为总裁，我也不想谈太多　15:15:12\n16　细节。我们是一家家族办公室；　15:15:14\n17　对吗？　15:15:18\n18　如果我们未能达成一致，而且——他是公司的　15:15:19\n19　所有者兼董事；对吗？　15:15:21\n20　所以他作出了关于车辆的决定，　15:15:25\n21　然后我作出了关于投资机会的决定。　15:15:30\n22　我们确实存在分歧。我们　15:15:33\n23　最终处理——我们最终处理了　15:15:35\n24　结果。　15:15:37\n25　问。\n好的。好。那么——我想　15:15:37\n\n案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 207 页，共 280 页\n\n1　我明白你的回答，但有两件事　15:15:39\n\n2　我只想澄清并确认两点。　15:15:43\n\n3　第一，不同意见的例子。　15:15:45\n\n4　我问过你有关时间的问题。你刚才解释说，　15:15:48\n\n5　其中一个例子是你于　15:15:52\n\n6　2018 年被任命时——你提到了一项房地产项目。　15:15:55\n\n7　明白。　15:15:59\n\n8　你刚才还提到了车辆，　15:16:00\n\n9　即我们今天早些时候谈到的车辆。　15:16:03\n\n10　你还能想到其他例子吗？　15:16:07\n\n11　答：你是在问我超过一百万的事情，　15:16:12\n\n12　也就是说，咨询项目，它们　15:16:19\n\n13　超过一百万。　15:16:23\n\n14　问：我明白，也听到了。　15:16:24\n\n15　我问的是，除了那两个以外，是否还有其他　15:16:26\n\n16　例子。　15:16:29\n\n17　答：我们这里是一家家族办公室。如果你　15:16:32\n\n18　问的是他父亲的法律事务，我的意思是，　15:16:39\n\n19　他的父亲——据 Qiang Guo（郭强先生）向我告知，他的　15:16:44\n\n20　父亲可能想提起某些诉讼，他　15:16:47\n\n21　当时征求我的意见，我给了他意见，　15:16:51\n\n22　然后他是否将其用于支持他父亲。那件事　15:16:56\n\n23　也发生过。　15:16:59\n\n24　问：关于——关于——　15:17:00\n\n25　车辆，我相信你说过，尽管你　15:17:05\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions（Veritext法律解决方案公司）866 299-5127\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 208 页，共 280 页\n\n1　不同意，Qiang Guo（郭强先生）仍决定购买车辆，　15:17:09\n\n2　对吗？　15:17:14\n\n3　答：对。　15:17:16\n\n4　问：好的。一般而言，是否确实如此，　15:17:19\n\n5　如果你不同意，如你所说，Qiang Guo（郭强先生）会　15:17:29\n\n6　成为作出决定的人，按照你的说法？　15:17:34\n\n7　答：不是。　15:17:38\n\n8　这——在他那一方也发生过。如果　15:17:41\n\n9　我不同意，他会按我的意见办。　15:17:46\n\n10　问：好的。你能否想到一个例子，你　15:17:49\n\n11　曾不同意，而你的观点占了上风，并且　15:17:57\n\n12　所涉决定超过一百万　15:18:10\n\n13　美元？　15:18:14\n\n14　答：先生，我刚才已经回答了你的问题。比如，　15:18:17\n\n15　房地产投资项目。　15:18:21\n\n16　问：除了——除了那个。　15:18:25\n\n17　答：我的意思是，正如我解释的，那是我们的商业　15:18:29\n\n18　计划，对吗？　15:18:32\n\n19　我们进行房地产投资。　15:18:33\n\n20　我已经作证说明我们是一家家族办公室；　15:18:35\n\n21　对吗？　15:18:38\n\n22　问：我——我将把你的回答理解为，　15:18:39\n\n23　这是你能想到的唯一例子。　15:18:42\n\n24　答：我不同意。我不同意。这不是　15:18:44\n\n25　我的回答。我已非常清楚地给了你我的回答。　15:18:47\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 209 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：那么，请你——请你再说一个　15:18:50\n\n2　例子。请你再说一个涉及超过一百万美元、　15:18:54\n\n3　你不同意且你的意见占上风的决定的　15:18:57\n\n4　例子，除你已经提到过三次的房地产　15:19:00\n\n5　项目之外。　15:19:05\n\n6　还有其他例子吗？　15:19:08\n\n7　答：我已经回答了。　15:19:12\n\n8　问：Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）向其提供的 $21 million 诉讼　15:19:14\n\n9　贷款中，有任何预计会　15:19:29\n\n10　获得偿还的吗？　15:19:32\n\n11　答：有。　15:19:34\n\n12　问：有任何贷款是书面形式的吗？　15:19:34\n\n13　答：有。　15:19:41\n\n14　问：你见过——任何一笔　15:19:41\n\n15　贷款的文件吗？　15:19:49\n\n16　答：见过。　15:19:53\n\n17　问：它们在哪里？　15:19:53\n\n18　答：在我的办公室。　15:19:55\n\n19　问：在 East 64th Street（东 64 街）或其他什么地方？　15:20:02\n\n20　答：你说“其他什么地方”是什么意思？　15:20:09\n\n21　问：对不起。我试图避免使用　15:20:11\n\n22　确切地址。　15:20:15\n\n23　它们在纽约市的　15:20:15\n\n24　家族办公室吗？　15:20:18\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 210 页，共 280 页\n\n1　答：我相信在上午——今天上午，　15:20:18\n\n2　我已经作证说过我的地址，你已经有了，　15:20:21\n\n3　先生。是在 64th Street（64 街）办公室，即 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）的　15:20:25\n\n4　办公室。　15:20:29\n\n5　问：好的。　15:20:29\n\n6　答：你不需要避免提及　15:20:30\n\n7　该地址，先生。你已经有了。　15:20:34\n\n8　问：鉴于你的安全顾虑，请原谅我格外谨慎。　15:20:36\n\n9　答：谢谢。　15:20:43\n\n10　问：那——那是贷款文件所在地的　15:20:44\n\n11　地址吗？　15:20:45\n\n12　答：对。　15:20:47\n\n13　问：有多少份此类贷款文件？　15:20:47\n\n14　答：有几份。　15:20:51\n\n15　问：超过十份吗？　15:20:52\n\n16　答：有几份。　15:20:58\n\n17　问：你知道是否超过十份　15:21:00\n\n18　吗？　15:21:02\n\n19　答：我回答过，有几份。　15:21:04\n\n20　问：你签署过它们吗？　15:21:07\n\n21　答：是。　15:21:11\n\n22　问：谁代表借款人签署它们？　15:21:12\n\n23　答：借款人签署了它。　15:21:19\n\n24　问：借款人是谁？　15:21:23\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 211 页\n\n1　答：Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵先生）。　15:21:25\n\n2　问：好的。他签署时你在场吗？　15:21:27\n\n3　答：我不记得。　15:21:30\n\n4　问：好的。$21 million 贷款中有多少　15:21:33\n\n5　没有文件记载？　15:21:42\n\n6　答：我不记得。我无法给你　15:21:44\n\n7　准确数字。　15:21:50\n\n8　HARBACH 律师：好的。那么我们将——我们将　15:21:51\n\n9　请求——Scott，我们将请求 Golden Spring　15:21:54\n\n10　(New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）立即向我们出示全部　15:21:59\n\n11　证人刚刚描述的文件，　15:22:02\n\n12　即证明债务人从 Golden Spring　15:22:09\n\n13　(New York)（纽约金泉）取得的 $21 million 诉讼贷款中任何　15:22:13\n\n14　部分的贷款协议。　15:22:16\n\n15　　15:22:20\n\n16　ROSEN 律师：我理解该请求，我们　15:22:21\n\n17　将予以考虑。　15:22:23\n\n18　HARBACH 律师：好的。　15:22:25\n\n19　HARBACH 律师讯问：　15:22:29\n\n20　问：Wang 女士（王女士），你是否熟悉其中任何一笔贷款，　15:22:29\n\n21　即诉讼贷款的条款？　15:22:32\n\n22　答：它们是贷款。它们有利息。它们　15:22:36\n\n23　应当偿还。　15:22:43\n\n24　问：利率是多少？　15:22:44\n\n25　答：我记不清楚。我不能　15:22:46\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 212 页，共 280 页\n\n1　记清楚。比如，2、3 percent。我不　15:22:53\n\n2　记得。　15:22:56\n\n3　问：谁代表 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）就这些　15:22:56\n\n4　贷款的利率进行了谈判？　15:22:59\n\n5　答：我和 Qiang Guo（郭强先生）制定了它。　15:23:01\n\n6　问：谁与——借款人　15:23:06\n\n7　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵先生）就这些贷款的利率　15:23:13\n\n8　进行了谈判？　15:23:16\n\n9　答：我不记得。　15:23:18\n\n10　问：你是否就这些贷款的利率与 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵先生）　15:23:21\n\n11　沟通过？　15:23:26\n\n12　答：我不记得。　15:23:29\n\n13　问：所有贷款的利率都一样吗？　15:23:32\n\n14　　15:23:38\n\n15　答：据我所知、我记得，是。　15:23:39\n\n16　问：据你的记忆，约 $21 million 的　15:23:45\n\n17　诉讼贷款总额大致正确　15:23:50\n\n18　吗？　15:23:56\n\n19　答：大概数字——是。正确。　15:23:57\n\n20　问：好的。那么该　15:24:02\n\n21　21 million 中大约有多少是有文件记载的贷款？　15:24:05\n\n22　答：我一时想不起来。　15:24:08\n\n23　ROSEN 律师：David，请问我能否要求你　15:24:18\n\n24　澄清一下。　15:24:21\n\n25　你说有文件记载的贷款时，　15:24:22\n\n第 187 页\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 213 页，共 280 页\n\n1　具体是指什么？　15:24:25\n\n2　HARBACH 律师：当然。　15:24:28\n\n3　我的意思是，该证人此前在其证词中　15:24:30\n\n4　表示，其中一些贷款是书面形式，且存在　15:24:34\n\n5　贷款协议；因此，这就是我对她回答的理解。　15:24:38\n\n6　　15:24:44\n\n7　而且我——我理解，其中一些有，另一些　15:24:47\n\n8　没有。因此，当我说有文件记载的贷款时，　15:24:50\n\n9　我的意思是存在书面贷款　15:24:54\n\n10　协议的贷款，该协议由她签署且由借款人　15:24:58\n\n11　签署。　15:25:03\n\n12　这有帮助吗？　15:25:05\n\n13　ROSEN 律师：有。　15:25:06\n\n14　谢谢。　15:25:08\n\n15　HARBACH 律师：好的。　15:25:09\n\n16　HARBACH 律师讯问：　15:25:10\n\n17　问：那么 Wang 女士，这不会改变——我想，　15:25:10\n\n18　这不会改变你的任何回答。　15:25:13\n\n19　你明白我的意思吗？　15:25:15\n\n20　答：我已经回答了我的问题。这是　15:25:17\n\n21　据我目前所知的最佳回答。　15:25:22\n\n22　问：好的。那么只是为了——只是为了　15:25:24\n\n23　概括并确保我理解。　15:25:27\n\n24　Golden Spring　15:25:31\n\n25　(New York)（纽约金泉）向 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵先生）提供了约 $21 million 的　15:25:35\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 214 页，共 280 页\n\n1　诉讼贷款；正确吗？　15:25:39\n\n2　答：正确。　15:25:41\n\n3　问：其中一些贷款——是有　15:25:47\n\n4　文件记载的，我的意思是有书面贷款　15:25:50\n\n5　协议；正确吗？　15:25:55\n\n6　答：正确。　15:25:57\n\n7　此外，我们的财务账簿上也有记录，　15:25:59\n\n8　同样将其记载为贷款。　15:26:06\n\n9　问：好的。然后其中一些贷款没有——没有　15:26:08\n\n10　书面贷款协议；正确吗？　15:26:11\n\n11　答：但在我们的财务记录中，它被　15:26:16\n\n12　记载为贷款；正确。　15:26:20\n\n13　问：我明白。我明白。　15:26:22\n\n14　但我的意思是，就那些贷款而言，并没有　15:26:24\n\n15　由你签署且由　15:26:28\n\n16　Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵先生）签署、载有利率　15:26:31\n\n17　和正式条款的贷款协议；对吗？　15:26:36\n\n18　答：正确。　15:26:40\n\n19　Qiang Guo（郭强先生）与 Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵先生）之间　15:26:41\n\n20　也有其他一些贷款。　15:26:45\n\n21　问：好的。　15:26:47\n\n22　答：所以财务记录就是贷款协议，　15:26:48\n\n23　然后还有我们的贷款——　15:26:52\n\n24　问：好的。　15:26:55\n\n25　答：——协议。　15:26:56\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 215 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：因此，关于那些——不是口头　15:26:57\n\n2　贷款，而是书面贷款，你说　15:26:59\n\n3　那些文件目前在 East 64th Street（东 64 街）　15:27:04\n\n4　办公室；正确吗？　15:27:12\n\n5　答：正确。　15:27:13\n\n6　HARBACH 律师：好的。因此，Scott，就是我们请求提供的　15:27:15\n\n7　那些文件。　15:27:19\n\n8　ROSEN 律师：我明白。　15:27:20\n\n9　谢谢。　15:27:22\n\n10　HARBACH 律师讯问：　15:27:22\n\n11　问：好的。现在，Wang 女士，关于　15:27:23\n\n12　口头贷款，是谁记录的？　15:27:26\n\n13　答：你说谁记录的是什么意思？是指　15:27:31\n\n14　Golden Spring（纽约金泉）吗？　15:27:34\n\n15　问：是的，女士。　15:27:34\n\n16　我想你刚才提到，　15:27:35\n\n17　即使是没有以贷款协议　15:27:39\n\n18　记载的贷款，也记录在 Golden Spring　15:27:41\n\n19　(New York)（纽约金泉）的账簿上；对吗？　15:27:46\n\n20　答：正确。　15:27:47\n\n21　问：因此，我问的是谁将其记录在　15:27:47\n\n22　账簿上？　15:27:50\n\n23　答：Golden Spring（纽约金泉）的财务部门。　15:27:51\n\n24　问：好的。那是按你的指示吗？　15:27:55\n\n25　答：正确。　15:27:59\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 216 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：你如何得知那些贷款的条款？　15:28:00\n\n2　口头借款？　15:28:04\n3　答：\n我也是从郭强先生那里得知的。　15:28:07\n4　问：\n您是否亲自参与就任何口头借款与郭文贵先生进行谈判　15:28:10\n5　或——或向其提出任何口头借款？　15:28:16\n6　郭文贵先生？　15:28:22\n7　答：\n我没有参加郭强先生与其父亲之间的　15:28:23\n8　谈话，没有。我没有。　15:28:30\n9　问：\n郭文贵先生是否曾向您请求从金泉　15:28:33\n10　获得借款？　15:28:36\n11　答：\n我不记得。　15:28:38\n12　问：\n这是否意味着他有可能曾提出过该请求？　15:28:40\n13　答：\n我不记得。　15:28:49\n14　问：\n如果我之前问过您这个问题，敬请原谅。　15:28:57\n15　我确实不记得了。　15:29:00\n16　您是否曾与郭文贵先生谈及任何诉讼借款，　15:29:02\n17　无论是口头的还是书面的？　15:29:06\n18　　15:29:11\n19　答：\n我不记得。　15:29:12\n20　问：\n您是否亲自参与协助郭先生填写其　15:29:13\n21　破产财产清单及其　15:29:33\n22　财务状况说明书？　15:29:38\n23　罗森先生：\n异议。该证人并非　15:29:41\n24　以其个人身份在此作证。我请求您　15:29:44\n25　重新表述该问题。　15:29:48\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 217 页，共 280 页\n\n1　哈巴赫先生：\n当然。　15:29:50\n\n2　哈巴赫先生询问：　15:29:51\n3　问：\nGolden Spring (New York) Limited（金泉〔纽约〕有限公司）　15:29:52\n4　是否参与协助郭先生填写其　15:29:54\n5　破产财产清单或其财务状况　15:29:58\n6　说明书？　15:30:01\n7　答：\n没有。　15:30:03\n8　问：\n郭先生的月度经营　15:30:04\n9　报告呢？您知道那是什么吗？　15:30:14\n10　答：\n知道。　15:30:17\n11　问：\n好的。Golden Spring　15:30:20\n12　(New York) 是否有人参与协助编制　15:30:24\n13　郭文贵先生的月度经营报告？　15:30:28\n14　答：\n我们被要求整理其生活方式　15:30:31\n15　开支。也就是说，我指示 Golden Spring 提供协助。　15:30:40\n16　问：\n好的。是谁向您提出该请求？　15:30:47\n17　答：\n我记不起来了。可能是他的律师。　15:30:49\n18　我记不起来了。　15:30:57\n19　问：\n好的。如果我理解正确，　15:30:58\n20　您指示您的一名雇员提供协助？　15:31:00\n21　答：\n正确。　15:31:06\n22　哈巴赫先生：\n好的。我仅为记录在案说明，斯科特，　15:31:07\n23　我不会问那个人是谁，　15:31:09\n24　因为我理解您会基于　15:31:17\n25　与先前相同的理由提出异议。我还要说明，我们　15:31:20\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 218 页，共 280 页\n\n1　仍不同意该异议。　15:31:24\n\n2　这样可以吗？　15:31:26\n3　罗森先生：\n可以。　15:31:27\n4　哈巴赫先生询问：　15:31:35\n5　问：\n您知道 Verdolino & Lowey（维尔多利诺及洛伊）律师事务所　15:31:35\n6　是什么吗？　15:31:42\n7　答：\nVerdolino Lowey。　15:31:43\n8　问：\n您听说过他们吗？　15:31:45\n9　答：\n没有。　15:31:48\n10　我不记得。　15:31:53\n11　问：\n好的。您知道 Craig Jalbert（克雷格·贾尔伯特）是谁吗？　15:31:53\n12　答：\n我不知道这个名字。　15:31:59\n13　问：\n好的。　15:31:59\n14　答：\nCraig Jalbert。　15:32:02\n15　问：\n根据您先前的回答，这可能显而易见，　15:32:03\n16　但请您耐心一点。　15:32:15\n17　撇开此人的姓名不谈，是否确有　15:32:18\n18　Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的人员　15:32:26\n19　可以协助汇编和计算　15:32:31\n20　郭文贵先生的生活方式开支？　15:32:40\n21　答：\n是。　15:32:48\n22　问：\n现在暂时只关注一下那些　15:32:49\n23　生活方式开支。　15:33:07\n24　好吗？　15:33:10\n25　答：\n好。　15:33:12\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 219 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：\n郭先生是否曾向您提出任何请求，　15:33:12\n\n2　要求 Golden Spring (New York) 支付与其　15:33:21\n3　生活方式有关的开支？　15:33:28\n4　抱歉。　15:33:31\n5　答：\n我不记得，但有这种可能。　15:33:33\n6　问：\n好的。我所问的是，比如说，　15:33:39\n7　“伊薇特，我需要 Golden Spring 为我　15:33:46\n8　开车去曼哈顿付款”，或者“我需要 Golden Spring 为　15:33:52\n9　我这次去法院所需的这套西装付款”——诸如此类　15:33:57\n10　的事情。　15:34:02\n11　他会向您提出这样的请求吗？　15:34:03\n12　答：\n我不记得。但他确实提出过一些　15:34:06\n13　请求——他向我提出过，比如，如先前所说，　15:34:15\n14　我相信，是购买一些非常昂贵的家具。　15:34:19\n15　而且我——显然，这超出了他的生活方式开支。　15:34:22\n16　我向郭强先生报告，郭强先生　15:34:26\n17　拒绝了它——　15:34:29\n18　问：\n好的。　15:34:29\n19　答：\n——因此我也向他拒绝了。　15:34:30\n20　问：\n对。　15:34:32\n21　答：\n是。　15:34:34\n22　问：\n我问的是，比如日常　15:34:34\n23　事项，像——无论如何——您知道，我不介意　15:34:37\n24　告诉您，这对我们所有债权人以及我认为对美国受托人而言，　15:34:43\n25　郭先生如何支付各项费用一直是一个真正的谜团。　15:34:48\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 220 页，共 280 页\n\n我们确实一直很难弄清楚这究竟是如何发生的。并且　15:34:52\n\n3　所以我希望您能帮助我稍微理解一下，　15:34:58\n\n4　因为据他所说，Golden Spring　15:35:01\n5　(New York) Limited 支付所有这些费用。而且　15:35:04\n6　由于您是 Golden Spring (New York) Limited 的　15:35:07\n7　总裁兼财务主管，我希望您能够　15:35:09\n8　帮助我们理解。　15:35:14\n9　所以，我知道我们先前谈到过您对信用卡账单以及　15:35:15\n10　诸如此类事项的审查，但　15:35:17\n\n对于这样的事情，比如郭——郭文贵先生　15:35:21\n因某种原因需要去曼哈顿，　15:35:26\n而且他需要一辆车。　15:35:30\n\n14　他会来找您吗？我是说，您说您　15:35:33\n负责 Golden Spring 的日常运营。　15:35:36\n16　他会来找您，还是——或者给您　15:35:40\n发消息说，“嘿，我需要安排一辆车”？我是说，　15:35:42\n这如何运作？　15:35:46\n\n19　答：\n好的。就这个具体　15:35:48\n问题而言，作为一家公司的总裁，我是说，　15:35:50\n我本来就不处理他这种非常小的　15:35:53\n请求；因此 Golden Spring 确实有安保人员，　15:35:57\n如您可能理解的那样，先生，　15:36:01\n按照郭强先生的安排，是一个安保团队，因为　15:36:06\n郭强先生最关心的是其父亲的　15:36:13\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 221 页，共 280 页\n\n1　人身安全；因此，郭文贵与安保人员之间进行沟通，　15:36:17\n\n2　以安排前往曼哈顿的行程；所以，对于那件事，我　15:36:21\n3　无需参与，　15:36:22\n4　因为对我来说那太小了。　15:36:26\n5　问：\n好的。那么其他日常　15:36:30\n6　生活方式所需呢？例如，在最近的一次程序中，　15:36:34\n7　美国受托人问，如果他需要买　15:36:42\n8　一双鞋，该怎么办？　15:36:47\n9　请您向我们说明这如何发生。　15:36:49\n10　答：\n我甚至——我是说，是的。我审查一些　15:36:52\n11　信用卡账单或其他账单，但我有　15:36:56\n12　财务人员。我是说，我不需要做财务工作。　15:37:00\n13　我甚至不记得经常看到他买　15:37:04\n14　鞋。我是说——　15:37:09\n15　问：\n他买任何东西吗？　15:37:12\n16　答：\n买。　15:37:14\n17　他买——他买衣服，是的。　15:37:16\n18　问：\n好的。那么他如何买衣服？　15:37:20\n19　答：\n我相信他从商店买衣服。　15:37:23\n20　问：\n好的。他亲自去商店，还是　15:37:28\n21　在线购物？　15:37:32\n22　哈巴赫先生：\n斯科特，我保证我只是　15:37:34\n23　试图了解。我不会在此　15:37:37\n24　不必要地纠缠。　15:37:39\n25　///　\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 222 页，共 280 页\n\n1　哈巴赫先生询问：　15:37:40\n2　问：\n请继续，王女士。　15:37:41\n3　答：\n我不参与他的个人生活；　15:37:43\n4　所以我无法说。　15:37:47\n5　问：\n所以您不——您不知道他　15:37:48\n6　喜欢去实体店购物，还是在线购物？　15:37:51\n7　答：\n我确实看到过商店的账单，　15:37:57\n8　我会核实。我让财务人员核实那是他的　15:38:03\n9　购买。　15:38:08\n10　问：\n好的。　15:38:08\n11　答：\n我们处理这些；因此我不需要　15:38:09\n12　跟着他——　15:38:13\n13　问：\n好的。　15:38:13\n14　答：\n——看他去哪里，对吗？　15:38:14\n15　所以我不知道——　15:38:14\n16　问：\n不。　15:38:17\n17　我——我知道。我并不是说您　15:38:17\n18　跟着他。　15:38:19\n19　我真正试图理解的是，　15:38:20\n20　该交易是如何发生的？郭先生走进　15:38:23\n21　Saks Fifth Avenue（第五大道萨克斯百货）并看到一套他想买的西装。　15:38:29\n22　我们就假设发生的是这种情况。　15:38:35\n23　好吗？　15:38:37\n24　他在那里，说：“我喜欢那套　15:38:38\n25　西装。”他试穿后很合身，因此　15:38:41\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 223 页，共 280 页\n\n1　他想买下它。　15:38:45\n2　接下来发生什么？它如何从　15:38:47\n\n3　那里变成您看到的一张账单上的项目？　15:38:49\n\n4　答：\n哦，这种情况根本不常发生。那是　15:38:54\n5　第一点。以前确实发生过。比如，　15:38:58\n6　有时我可以从安保人员的信用　15:39:03\n7　卡——借记卡——让我更正——中看到那笔　15:39:07\n8　购买。然后，显然，我的财务人员会深入核实并确认他确实购买了。但　15:39:10\n9　　15:39:14\n10　这种情况根本不常发生。　15:39:17\n11　问：\n好的。不过，您确实提到他买　15:39:21\n12　衣服，对吗？　15:39:24\n13　答：\n是。　15:39:27\n14　问：\n好的。那么请您给我举一个他　15:39:28\n15　购买衣服的例子。　15:39:34\n16　如果在 Saks Fifth Avenue 的例子并不经常发生，　15:39:36\n17　请告诉我通常发生什么。　15:39:40\n18　答：\n他根本不经常买衣服，也不只是很少在 Saks Fifth Avenue 买鞋。　15:39:43\n19　　15:39:49\n20　问：\n郭先生有信用卡吗？　15:39:54\n21　答：\n据我所知，他没有。至少　15:40:07\n22　Golden Spring 从未给过他。　15:40:12\n23　问：\n他有借记卡吗？　15:40:14\n24　答：\nGolden Spring 没有给过他。　15:40:17\n25　问：\n他购买的物品如何最终　15:40:20\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 224 页，共 280 页\n\n1　出现在您审查的一张账单上？请告诉我这是如何　15:40:25\n\n2　发生的。　15:40:30\n3　答：\n就他的衣服而言，我是说，我知道，比如，　15:40:31\n4　郭强先生在曼哈顿有一些商店。当　15:40:36\n5　他在曼哈顿时，他——他——我是说，经常　15:40:43\n6　在那里购物，有时我看到来自商店的账单，　15:40:49\n7　显然财务人员需要　15:40:52\n8　核实。否则，是郭强先生购买。但是，比如，　15:40:55\n9　他父亲购买过。这以前发生过；所以　15:40:59\n10　比如——据我理解，　15:41:03\n11　郭强先生照顾其父亲。　15:41:06\n12　问：\n所以郭强先生会为其　15:41:08\n13　父亲购买某物，并为其付款。　15:41:12\n14　Golden Spring 将如何核实？\n通过　15:41:14\n15　打电话给郭强先生并询问他吗？　15:41:16\n16　答：\n有时我们会这样做，是的。　15:41:19\n17　问：\n好的。郭强先生在英国时，　15:41:21\n18　如您告诉我的，那是他居住的地方，这会如何　15:41:27\n19　改变情况？郭——郭文贵先生在其儿子在英国期间如何　15:41:31\n20　购买某物？　15:41:36\n21　答：\n您说改变情况是什么意思？我是说，　15:41:39\n22　那些商店显然认识郭强先生，无论他是否　15:41:43\n23　在纽约；所以其父亲前来，然后　15:41:47\n24　在那里购物。我是说，我不知道您的　15:41:52\n25　问题是什么，先生。　15:41:54\n\n案件 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交于 05/25/22，录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 225 页，共 280 页\n\n1　问：\n好的。所以我认为您确实知道我的问题，　15:41:55\n\n而且这确实不难。但似乎确实很难得到答案。Mr. Ho Wan Kwok（郭文贵）如何购买物品，而他想购买并实际购买的物品，又如何最终出现在供您审阅的账单上？您已经给了我一个例子。您说，有时 Mr. Qiang Guo（郭强）会购买某物，然后该物会出现在供您审阅和核实的账单上，对吗？\n\n答：不。那不是我的回答。您误解我了，先生。\n\n问：好的。请解释。\n\n答：由于您一路以来一直误解我，而我觉得您没有理解这一点，我要使用我的译员。抱歉。比如，我可以让我的口译员——\n\n问：当然可以。\n\n答：——我的意思是，帮助我。\n\n问：当然可以。\n\nMR. HARBACH（哈巴赫先生）：为使记录明确，Johnston 女士，问题是，我试图了解，当 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 想购买某物时，该事项如何从 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 作出购买某物的决定，最终出现在 Wang 女士看到的账单上？\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 226 页，共 280 页\n\n口译员：（问题已口译。）\n\n证人：（通过口译员）好的。首先，当我说我审阅账单时，那仅涉及 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 购买衣服和鞋子。Mr. Qiang Guo 有一些经常光顾的商店；因此，如果他父亲在那些商店购物，该商店便会知道将账单寄给 Golden Spring（纽约金泉）；换言之，他父亲的购买是在 Mr. Qiang Guo 的账户资料项下。我想您可能没有理解我的意思。这就是我希望口译员为我口译的原因。\n\n由 MR. HARBACH 提问：\n\n问：非常感谢。我确实理解该例子。那么杂货呢？\n\n答：（以英语）杂货，我的意思是，他住在他妻子的房子里；因此，如有需要购买的杂货，那是供他们两人使用的；所以要求 Golden Spring 将 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 的杂货购买从他妻子的一般购买中剔除出来；我的意思是，丈夫和妻子住在一起。他住在他妻子的房子里。他自己购买自己的物品、使用单独账户，这不合情理。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 227 页，共 280 页\n\n问：我明白。我只是问杂货是如何支付的。\n\n答：也是由 Golden Spring 支付。\n\n问：和之前同样的问题。他们只是去杂货店，然后杂货店将账单寄给 Golden Spring 吗？还是他们在网上购买杂货？具体如何操作？\n\n答：杂货，大多数使用借记卡。\n\n问：好的。\n\n答：并且购买——\n\n问：所以——\n\n答：也会在网上购买，是的。\n\n问：好的。因此，即使该购买是在网上进行，也需要使用某种卡，例如借记卡或信用卡，对吗？\n\n答：正确。\n\n问：好的。谁使用那张卡？\n\n答：谁使用那张卡？他们——人们。我的意思是，他妻子也使用。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 228 页，共 280 页\n\n问：他是否曾使用——\n\n答：我的意思是——\n\n问：他是否曾使用那张卡？\n\n答：我认为没有。他完全不懂英语，所以——\n\n问：我的意思是，我不知道使用信用卡或借记卡是否需要懂英语。他是否曾亲自使用那张卡进行购买？\n\n答：您问的是哪个时间段，以及采用何种购买方式？\n\n问：您——\n\n答：如果您问的是网上购买，他不懂英语。我的意思是，要在网上购物，您必须能够读懂英语，对吗？\n\n问：这是否——\n\n答：因此，对于这一点，我可以确认他没有。\n\n问：嗯，第一，我很确定有中文网站。第二，我们就以杂货为例。他是否曾使用信用卡或借记卡购买杂货？\n\nMR. ROSEN（罗森先生）：异议。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 229 页，共 280 页\n\n证人：我不知道。\n\nMR. ROSEN：她多次作证称，他无权作为该卡的使用人，而且她已多次回答这个问题。\n\nMR. HARBACH：我不认为她说过——问题并非他是否是获授权使用人。我认为她说的是他从未使用过该卡。\n\n由 MR. HARBACH 提问：\n\n问：他的妻子使用吗？\n\n答：使用什么？\n\n问：使用借记卡或信用卡购买杂货？\n\n答：有可能。\n\n问：您是否知道究竟是哪一种情况？\n\n答：我的意思是，我不住在他们家里，对吗？谁在购买杂货？就我这边而言，我看不到，例如 Amazon（亚马逊）的购买，或者例如 Whole Foods（全食超市）的购买。谁使用那些卡？我需要查明。\n\n问：好的。因此，听起来，根据您刚才所说，可能是 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 的妻子，也可能是 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok，对吗？\n\n答：我没有在这里给您答案，因为我不知道。\n\n问：这正是我要说明的。您不知道。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 230 页，共 280 页\n\n问：根据您在账单上看到的内容，您不知道是谁使用了该卡，对吗？您知道吗？\n\n答：您说的是杂货？\n\n问：我说的是您刚才给出的例子，Whole Foods 或任何其他商家。当您在账单上看到该项时，您刚才说您不知道谁使用该卡，正确吗？\n\n答：家庭成员使用该卡。我知道。家庭成员使用该卡。\n\n问：当然。当然。Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 是该家庭的一员，对吗？\n\n答：正确。但他完全不懂英语。\n\n问：好的。他的妻子懂吗？\n\n答：他的妻子什么？\n\n问：他的妻子懂英语吗？\n\n答：我不相信她懂。\n\nMR. HARBACH：好的。请给我三十秒。\n\n由 MR. HARBACH 提问：\n\n问：感谢您的耐心。希望我通过这次休息为我们节省了一点时间。还有几个收尾问题，我想我们就结束了。您对 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 将如何偿还 $21 million 诉讼借款的理解是什么？\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 231 页，共 280 页\n\n答：我不了解。我的意思是，如果他胜诉，他需要偿还那些借款；然后，我的意思是，我假定会有某种成功，然后他应当偿还该借款。这就是我所了解的全部。\n\n问：是否有一辆由 Golden Spring (New York)（纽约金泉）所有的汽车停放在 Kwok 先生和女士的住所？\n\n答：我不记得了。如我所说，我不是懂车的人。我的意思是，Mr. Qiang Guo 会处理汽车方面的事务。\n\n问：那么，Golden Spring (New York) Limited（纽约金泉有限公司）不是为 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 支付司机费用吗？\n\n答：我们支付雇员的费用，是的。\n\n问：好的。我的问题不是关于那是什么类型的汽车。我只是问，是否有一辆汽车和一名司机，在 Kwok 先生需要时随时供他使用。\n\n答：我的意思是，Mr. Qiang Guo 会——确实会为他父亲租一辆车，然后 Golden Spring 支付司机费用。这是我可以确认的。\n\n问：好的。您是否亲自知悉他们居住的住所由谁所有？\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 232 页，共 280 页\n\nMR. HARBACH：别担心，Scott（斯科特）。我不会在这里停留太久。\n\n证人：您问的是亲自知悉？\n\n由 MR. HARBACH 提问：\n\n问：我问的是您是否知道。\n\nMR. ROSEN：如果您知道。这要求作出“是”或“否”的回答。\n\n证人：我并不亲自知悉。\n\nMR. HARBACH：好的，Scott，我将提出请求，补充我们先前对借款文件提出的请求。我还将请求 Golden Spring (New York) 尽快向我们提供证人所提及的、证明诉讼口头借款的账簿和记录中的记载。您明白我在说什么吗？\n\nMR. ROSEN：我现在只是在做笔记。\n\nMR. HARBACH：好的。\n\nMR. ROSEN：我相信我理解您的问题，我们将对此予以考虑。\n\nMR. HARBACH：好的。那些——只是——请稍等一秒。\n\nVeritext Legal Solutions 866 299-5127\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 233 页，共 280 页\n\n还有——还有——律师们喜欢问的那个著名的“再问一个问题”。\n\n由 MR. HARBACH 提问：\n\n问：您多次提到 Golden Spring 有足够资金维持其日常运营。Golden Spring (New York) 用于该等日常运营的运营预算是多少？比如说，年度预算大约是多少？\n\n答：年度将介于——我的意思是，运营是指支付租赁费用、支付雇员费用以及办公用品、家具等一切费用。\n\n问：我问的是，是的，正如您先前所说，您会归入日常运营的一切事项。\n\n答：先生，我正在回答您的问题。年度租赁费用介于 2 至 3 million，至少——至少是最低数额，任何和一切费用都包括在内。\n\n问：好的。明白了。这就是我的全部问题。\n\nMR. HARBACH：我不知道其他迄今忍受这一过程的律师是否想提任何问题。\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 于 05/25/22 提交，于 05/26/22 15:30:37 登记，第 234 页，共 280 页\n\n录像员：听起来似乎没有。\n\n哈巴赫先生：\n好的。王女士，感谢您今天抽出时间，并耐心回答我的问题。\n\n录像员：\n现在于下午 3:58 停止记录。至此，Yvette Wang（王悦特）作为 Golden Spring (New York)（金泉〔纽约〕）的 30(b)(6) 证人所作的今日证言结束。所使用的媒体单元总数为一个，将由 Veritext Legal Solutions（威睿法律解决方案公司）保管。\n\n哈巴赫先生：\n我是代表 Pacific Alliance（太平洋联盟）的 O'Melveny & Myers（欧麦律师事务所）律师 David Harbach（大卫·哈巴赫）。我希望在证言证物中补充一份额外证物，称为第 6 号证物。\n\n（证言第 6 号证物已标记以供识别。）\n\n哈巴赫先生：\n该证物是今日证人的证言通知书。我已与证人律师 Rosen 先生沟通过，他不反对将其作为证物加入。\n\n罗森先生：\n我们能否将其——将其显示在屏幕上？\n\n哈巴赫先生：\n可以。可以。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交日期 05/25/22 录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 235 页，共 280 页\n\n我的同事正在处理此事。\n\n书记员：\n罗森先生，您是否需要一份笔录副本？\n\n罗森先生：\n需要。\n\n书记员：\n您是否还需要一份速记稿？\n\n罗森先生：\n需要。\n\n副本于今晚交付。\n\n（下午 4:28）\n\n--ooOoo--\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交日期 05/25/22 录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 236 页，共 280 页\n\n加利福尼亚州 ）\n\n）ss.\n克恩县\n）\n\n本人，YAN PING WANG（王燕萍），特此证明：\n\n本人已阅读前述证言笔录；\n\n本人已对本证言笔录作出为使其真实、准确所必需的形式和/或实质性修改；\n\n在作出该等修改后，本人特此在该证言笔录上签署姓名。\n\n本人在伪证处罚的约束下声明，前述内容真实、准确。\n\n签署于 2022 年 ___________ 月 _____ 日，地点为加利福尼亚州 _______________________。\n\n_____________________________\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交日期 05/25/22 录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 237 页，共 280 页\n\n加利福尼亚州 ）\n\n）ss.\n克恩县\n）\n\n本人，B. Suzanne Hull（B. 苏珊·赫尔），加利福尼亚州持有证书编号 13495 的注册速记员，特此证明：\n\n前述证言笔录中所列证人 YAN PING WANG（王燕萍）已由本人依法宣誓；该证言于 2022 年 4 月 12 日星期二，在本文件首页载明的时间和地点录取。\n\n在录取证言时，本人以速记方式记录证人的陈述，并随后在本人监督下由计算机转录；前述内容为该证人所作证言真实、准确的笔录。\n\n根据《联邦民事诉讼规则》第 30(e) 条，已请求审阅笔录。\n\n本人进一步证明，本人既非该诉讼任何一方的律师，亦不以任何方式与任何一方存在关系，且对该案的结果或结局不具有任何利害关系。\n\n///\n\n///\n\n签署于 2022 年 4 月 12 日，地点为加利福尼亚州贝克斯菲尔德。 <%8004,签名%> B. Suzanne Hull，CSR 编号 13495，第 213 页，案号 22-50073，文件 440-26，提交日期 05/25/22，录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37，第 238 页，共 280 页\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交日期 05/25/22 录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 239 页，共 280 页\n\nYAN PING WANG（王燕萍）\n\ngoldenspringny@protonmail.com\n\n2022 年 4 月 12 日\n\n事由：HO WAN KWOK（郭文贵）\n\n2022 年 4 月 12 日，YAN PING WANG（王燕萍），工作编号 5181285\n\n上述笔录已由 Veritext Legal Solutions（威睿法律解决方案公司）完成，笔录审阅将按如下方式处理：\n\n__ 根据加州州法（《加州民事诉讼法典》〔CCP〕2025.520 (a)-(e)）——请联系 Veritext，在 Veritext 办公室安排审阅原始笔录的时间。\n\n__ 根据加州州法（《加州民事诉讼法典》〔CCP〕2025.520 (a)-(e)）——锁定的 .PDF 笔录——证人应审阅笔录，并在下列勘误页上作出任何必要更正，同时注明更正所在的页码和行号。证人随后应在勘误页和伪证处罚页上签名并注明日期，并在证言录取时确定的期限内，或《民事诉讼法典》规定的期限内，将完成的页面交还给所有出庭律师。\n\n__ 根据律师约定放弃适用《加州民事诉讼法典》——应按照证言录取时确定的方式，交付原始笔录供签署。\n\n__ 免除签署——在录取证言时已放弃阅读及签署。\n\n案号 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交日期 05/25/22 录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 240 页，共 280 页\n\n_X_ 已请求联邦阅读及签署（FRCP 30(e)(1)(B)）——锁定的 .PDF 笔录——证人应审阅笔录，并在下列勘误页上作出任何必要更正，同时注明更正所在的页码和行号。证人随后应在勘误页和伪证处罚页上签名并注明日期，并在证言录取时确定的期限内，或《联邦规则》规定的期限内，将完成的页面交还给所有出庭律师。\n\n__ 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65:5,9　协议\n728-5831\n2:18　行为\n127:2　65:25 66:9 67:5　186:12 188:6\n8　已激活\n103:16　67:23 68:4,8　啊\n148:1\n\n142:23 143:2,11　活动\n128:24　87:16 91:11 92:21　前面\n20:13\n143:21,24 144:3　广告\n168:15　宣誓书\n58:25　107:15 197:2\n添加\n209:22　60:20 61:5 64:24　机场\n35:24\n\n146:10　额外的\n209:15　关联\n26:7　Aisling\n2:15\n\n213:3　地址\n27:2　关联关系\n7:22　别名\n58:11\n\n166:21,22　71:14,18,20　害怕\n170:9　被提醒\n157:21\n\n2:23 3:12　184:23 185:2,7,11　下午\n112:20　对齐\n136:6 181:12\n9　已处理\n170:17　181:11　已对齐\n136:5\n\n6:6　管理人　以前\n12:10 15:24　137:8 165:23,23\n\n3:11　47:9 51:25 52:15　17:19 25:14 29:20　165:23 178:23,24\n9:15\n7:2,6　54:21 55:2 58:8　30:3,20 36:6,6　181:18\na　58:16,19 68:1,6,17　37:17 44:16 45:12　联盟\n2:11 5:9\n68:19,25,25 69:6　49:11 60:17 61:19　7:11,25 8:12,14\n上午\n7:2,6　69:11 87:18 88:12　62:22 64:22 65:8　9:20 174:22 175:7\n遵守\n165:2　88:16 89:13 90:16　65:17 79:24 80:8　209:13\n能力\n9:2,12　91:2,14 95:6,9　80:24 85:21 96:4　亚马逊\n204:17\n能力\n13:15　采纳\n65:17　96:12,12,14 97:13　愿意接受的\n112:9\n能够\n10:23,23 31:9　预先\n117:11　98:18 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55:4　道歉\n87:13　213:1 214:3,5　70:6 71:3 72:24\n61:6,9 63:17,19　明显的\n124:13　建筑\n64:8 66:2,5,6,15　136:4　118:11　98:8,21 102:20\n67:9,11,12,16　显然\n168:9　Arethusa\n147:14　107:4,5,7 110:14\n74:12,13,16,19,22　173:6　争辩\n136:10,13　110:17,19 112:22\n74:25 76:23 77:11　出现\n48:5　争辩\n66:3　116:9 124:1,13,14\n77:12,19 78:6,9,9　出庭情况\n2:1　安排\n141:17　127:16 132:10\n79:10,11,16 84:1,5　3:1 7:22　196:3　134:3 135:18\n84:25 88:19,20,24　出庭\n214:18　已安排\n114:15　138:18 143:20\n90:12 92:14 94:18　215:7　114:16,19 141:16　146:2 155:12\n95:19 97:15 99:2　被指定\n32:14　159:3,7,21　156:3 160:13\n116:4,15,20,22,23　34:9,12,20 38:22　安排\n37:5　168:1 169:20,22\n119:23 122:10,18　45:24 46:2,3,5　162:14　176:4 179:7,7,8,11\n126:24 129:9　49:4 50:23 97:4,8　安排\n111:6　179:13 180:3,17\n130:11,25 132:10　97:12 122:19　被逮捕\n48:11　182:11,15,18,21\n132:14 133:8,9　166:3 173:4,7,16　84:6　190:21 194:6,22\n134:24 140:4　174:18 180:25　到达\n143:11,21　199:15 202:5\n154:19 158:5　182:5　143:24 144:3　203:10,13 206:18\n159:20 160:15　感谢\n67:14　归因于\n86:19　207:3,6 208:14\n161:1 165:20　157:25　亚洲\n2:11 5:9 9:20　询问\n106:15\n170:11,22 175:10　适当的\n41:25　旁边\n44:10 127:5　方面\n165:7\n182:1 183:22,25　44:22 157:24　128:4,6 175:2　资产\n130:14,22\n183:25 188:6　批准\n37:5　193:17　资产\n127:6,17\n193:16 200:3,12　107:19,23　被询问\n21:8 22:5　128:6,23 129:4\n204:22 207:8　批准\n146:12　48:6 53:11 62:22　任务分配\n46:9\n已回答\n31:11　已批准\n107:14　78:25 79:2,9　58:23\n62:12 184:8 204:4　159:2,6 177:25　82:10,15,19 87:17　协助\n89:16 92:18\n178:2 180:7　88:21 95:8 105:4　192:20 193:19\n\n[协助者 - Birnbaum]\n\n助理\n88:25　授权\n104:13　123:10 126:7　开始\n47:5 74:10\n\n89:10,18 92:23　获授权\n104:16　149:17 170:14　代表\n137:6\n93:2,9,14,19 95:1　164:19 168:14　174:6,20 186:23　166:14\n95:10　204:3,6　206:4,6　北京\n86:14,16\n协助\n15:25　汽车\n110:21　背景\n26:7　86:24\n89:24　汽车　47:13 155:2　相信\n13:22\n协助\n192:4　111:19　Bakersfield（贝克斯菲尔德）\n213:2　14:14 18:3 21:6\n假定\n101:12,13　可用\n91:19　余额\n125:10,22　24:1,1,22 31:12\n101:14 109:9　92:2 146:5 206:19　126:21 127:19,22　32:12 35:13 42:23\n188:18 206:5　大道\n197:21　127:24 174:23　69:20 80:1,25\n假定\n46:12　198:16,19　银行\n124:12,18,21　81:16 90:7 94:20\n47:19 49:18　避免\n184:22　124:25 125:7,8,14　97:4,8 99:1,23\n169:15　185:6　125:22 126:22　104:16,20 105:9\n假定\n166:9　避免\n71:22　127:1,5,21 128:4,6　113:12 114:2,20\n附上\n146:14　知悉\n11:2 108:12　128:9,10 129:17　117:21 128:8\n出席\n191:7　108:14,14 156:10　129:20 158:22　141:14 143:14\n注意\n21:10　164:9 166:6 171:1　174:23　144:25 156:8,9\n84:4 145:19　177:9 178:4　银行业务\n175:6　157:4 163:5\n146:23　b　破产\n1:1　170:15 172:14,17\n律师\n2:12,22　b\n1:16,25 4:9 5:3　7:12 36:4,16 37:6　177:17 182:25\n3:5,11 63:25 68:9　5:13 7:9 9:19 20:5　48:24 94:7,20　185:1 194:14\n134:10 138:25　20:12 26:2,11　130:20 191:21　196:19 204:5,7\n139:1 140:13　27:5 37:6 38:6　192:5　205:18 207:22\n145:19 146:18　44:20 65:19 209:8　几乎不\n37:7　Bennett（贝内特）\n2:5 8:9\n147:18,21 148:4　212:5 213:4 215:1　基础\n24:6　最佳\n9:1,11 12:4\n170:15,19,24　回来\n19:3 23:1,2　基于\n148:5　51:6 60:1,1 62:9\n171:16 172:3　23:21 30:5 31:9　161:24 165:22　64:2 188:20\n192:17　32:3,20 36:12　基本\n26:6,8　更好\n30:2 76:16\n律师的\n134:11　37:23 44:11 46:18　基础知识\n99:10　76:18 103:19,20\n170:16 171:18　48:7,13 49:10　依据\n85:20 130:21　超出\n27:1\n律师\n2:6,16　50:21 51:2 56:8　151:2,15,16　账单\n100:2,21\n15:15 17:15,22　57:4,25 61:17　156:23 192:25　101:25 196:11\n58:18 139:9,9　62:8,19 63:24　201:8　198:3 199:1,6\n141:15 145:7　64:2,17 66:25　承担\n193:16　200:6,10 201:2,10\n146:4　71:3 73:10 75:12　涉及\n91:1　202:10 205:1,6\n审计\n102:11　75:25 78:14,21　开始\n23:19 24:14　账单\n99:16,19,21\nAulet（奥莱特）\n2:5 8:7,7　69:1　100:7 101:22\n权限\n165:14　79:3,16 80:9,13\n86:4 87:10,14,21　开始\n28:11　195:10 196:11\n168:20 180:4　88:2 90:1,20 91:4　28:12 69:7 87:6　197:7 201:5\n授权　101:15 107:16　117:19 179:24　Birnbaum（伯恩鲍姆）\n2:21\n165:24　8:2\n111:16 112:16\n[bit - cbshealaw.com]\n\n少许\n30:25 37:8　Brown（布朗）\n2:4 8:7,10　计算\n70:4　198:23 202:13,19\n\n46:25 162:14　18:6　计算中\n193:19　202:19,20,22,23\n195:4　brownrudnick.c　计算\n70:7　203:3,7,7,8,23,24\n指责\n86:3　2:9,9　California（加利福尼亚州）\n10:5　204:3,11,11 205:2\n告密者\n117:18　bsilverberg\n2:9　211:1,15 212:1,6　205:7,8,9\n书\n34:2 189:8　预算\n208:7,9　213:2　卡\n102:16,22\n账簿\n190:18,22　建造\n118:21　致电\n16:6,20 28:15　102:23 103:1\n207:16　174:19　43:3 95:25 102:8　204:18\n借入\n177:17　建筑物\n171:5　称为\n8:24 9:9,19　照料\n96:1,4 98:16\n借款人\n177:19　业务\n24:24　14:18 39:5 86:13　98:25 99:5,6\n185:23,24,25　48:9 74:24 79:8　89:17 93:19　100:11,16 138:5\n187:6 188:10　79:15 80:5,11,12　112:23 114:20　139:2 141:17\n老板\n30:7 78:17,22　80:15,18 81:20　209:16　143:5 148:4,6,11\n78:24,25 81:2,6　97:15 114:7,9,10　致电\n76:11 77:9　148:16 154:11,14\n86:16,18,20,21　114:11 115:15,19　199:15　159:11 160:1,5,10\n底部\n47:4　115:20 116:4　电话\n52:2 155:18　160:13,18 161:2\n167:19,22　117:11,16,19　207:7　161:13,19,23,24\n大脑\n63:7　118:1 119:9　候选人\n154:13　162:4,17,22 180:9\n品牌化\n174:22　120:18 121:18　候选人\n152:16　181:23,23 195:25\nBravo（布拉沃）\n114:20,24　122:5 168:14　Cantonese（粤语）\n54:11　197:11 199:11\n115:4,11　175:17,19 183:17　上限\n177:21　职业生涯\n31:18\n休息\n66:17 67:4　购买\n106:3,15,19　能力\n154:18　164:18\n111:24 112:3,4　107:9,9,15,24　容量\n51:23　谨慎\n185:8\n126:17,20 167:3　108:5 143:7 183:1　52:13 54:19 58:7　携带\n168:14\n173:21 174:1　194:14 196:7,15　60:1 90:8,10,17,23　携带\n208:5\n205:23　196:17,17,18,19　91:15,21,23 92:1,4　汽车\n109:22,25\nBridgeport（布里奇波特）\n1:3　197:21 198:1,15　92:5,16 95:5　110:4,6 111:17\n7:13　198:18 199:12,19　105:7 141:23　181:14\n简要\n138:19　200:5 202:2,11,15　178:21 191:24　案件\n1:7 7:13 11:8\n142:18　202:17 203:24　标题所示\n167:15　14:18,20,22 37:6\n已提交书面陈述\n138:1,10　204:11　汽车\n108:20 110:3　90:15 101:10\n138:13,16,21,24　购买\n204:16　111:4 195:13,17　129:16 130:20\n161:18　购买\n196:13　206:9,10,11,17,18　142:22 206:4\n书面陈述\n149:16　198:11 200:6　206:22　现金\n127:10,12,13\n简要地\n144:19,23　章程\n163:22,25　卡\n99:21 100:5　127:14\n带来\n182:20　164:1,5,11,15　101:22,25 102:14　抓住\n173:18\n广泛\n165:6　165:1,3,7,14,17　102:17,24 103:4,7　类别\n123:15\n破损\n86:3　c　103:14 104:6,10　176:22\n兄弟\n84:10　104:15,22,25　迎合\n92:10\n带来\n86:10　c'mon\n153:15　105:1 195:10　cbshealaw.com\n87:3　ca\n214:9,12,20　196:11 198:7,7,20　2:24\n\n[ccp - completion]\n\nccp\n214:9,12　155:2,2　关闭\n173:25　99:3 150:22,25\n\n某些\n201:8　检查\n127:24　更近\n36:8 152:3　151:11,15,17\n当然\n41:24　China（中国）\n18:18,20　衣物\n95:25　187:10\n80:17 129:3　24:25 25:25 30:3　99:20 100:18　沟通\n164:25　31:8,20 114:8　101:5,6,9 196:17　17:3,11,15 151:2\n证书\n5:5,6　Chinese（中文）\n47:11　196:18,19 198:12　164:20\n166:14 167:16　49:24 54:4 84:7　198:15,18 199:3　沟通\n168:4,19 173:8　203:20　服装\n99:9,18　17:6\n212:7　选择\n47:10　100:24 101:4,11　通信\n认证\n10:6　城市\n31:22 71:13　101:13 107:22　154:17 196:1\n经认证\n10:4,5,11　71:19,20 72:1　201:7　通信\n212:5　184:25　代码\n214:9,12,19　16:8\n证明\n211:4　民事\n5:14 214:19　214:20　共产党\n47:11\n212:7,20　214:20　咖啡\n82:6,10,12　84:7\n等等\n68:12　Claiborn（克莱伯恩）\n3:5 8:15　82:15,20 106:19　公司\n27:5\n受到质疑\n170:7　8:15　107:12 141:18　公司\n26:8\n变更\n163:20　主张\n77:22　Cohn（科恩）\n2:21 8:2　45:9 46:7,10\n188:17,18 199:19　主张\n78:23　同事\n18:1　47:12 79:21 86:13\n199:21 216:4,7,10　澄清\n100:17　19:10 47:12 71:10　86:13 92:17\n216:13,16,19　澄清\n90:3,10　210:1　101:16 103:13\n变更\n211:7,10　120:4 182:2　来\n25:12,15　114:4,5,7,19\n改变\n127:19　187:24　27:20 28:4 44:11　117:15 118:19,24\n指控\n80:12　清晰\n151:6　122:21 129:2　119:4,12 124:9\n101:11,12 102:1,3　200:22　148:7 159:9　128:14 136:5\n102:9　清理\n174:13　161:21 162:6　137:7 152:11\n章程\n166:7　205:24　163:11 167:8　153:9 155:3,8\n167:17 168:15,16　明确\n53:15,16　176:2,3,6,8,9　160:17 163:22\n169:3,18,24　62:15 75:7 87:15　195:14,16　164:2,17 165:1,2\n171:14 172:22　95:11,11 121:22　来\n27:3 180:10　169:16,18 181:19\n173:1,13　151:5 161:1　舒适\n11:4　195:20\n章程\n170:20　183:25　153:2　公司的\n166:6\n聊天\n141:8,8,10　清楚地\n11:1 34:2　到来\n87:21　胜任能力\n26:10\n142:19 161:18　85:25 97:5 101:16　152:19 153:10　44:24\n司机\n34:24　186:25 187:1　159:16 160:2,6,14　编纂\n193:19\n35:10,19 36:1,23　客户\n120:2,8,9,11　162:11　完整\n168:18\n37:21 206:14,19　120:15,20 121:3,7　Comley（科姆利）\n3:10 8:5　172:24 174:24\n206:23　121:8,15 122:22　逗号\n88:24　175:8\n检查\n3:18 9:6,14　122:23 126:1　委员会\n3:10　已完成\n214:7\n10:7,9,9 34:1　客户\n119:5,9,18　8:5　214:17 215:6\n52:21,21 53:1,6,17　120:18 121:19　沟通\n17:1　完成\n215:10\n127:21 131:13,13　69:17 70:15,19,21\n\n[complicated - court]\n\n复杂\n17:24　控制台\n129:18　31:21,22 33:17,23　16:14 19:21 20:3\n\n遵守\n21:1,12　限制\n164:10　36:17 39:14 43:1　26:1 41:21 53:7,9\n23:4 28:25 29:4　咨询\n18:5　43:2 48:8,12　125:25 140:8\n32:22 33:2,9 35:3　咨询过\n134:25　52:24 54:1 60:21　151:12,24 152:18\n35:5 43:15 46:19　联系\n79:25　77:5,6 79:16,22　156:2,19,19\n46:22,24 55:12,23　135:4,5,7　62:2 69:16 77:2,3　152:23 153:9\n56:23 57:5,17　联系人\n79:25　77:5,6 79:16,22　156:2,19,19\n58:1 73:12 74:4　149:20 154:24　84:16 85:1,13,14　157:11,14 208:24\n83:14,20 87:25　214:9　90:18,20,24 91:13　209:21 212:20\n88:4,9 167:13　包含\n15:7　91:16 97:15　214:18,21 215:7\n组成\n121:13　包含\n189:16　104:19,23 105:21　律师的\n150:10\n计算机\n19:25　有争议\n37:4　106:17 108:21　153:17,18 154:3\n212:14　130:19　111:2,4,5,7 117:2　154:24\ncon\n26:11　语境\n26:12　121:16,18 129:23　律师\n16:5\n关注\n21:4　继续\n193:1　135:25 136:21　144:25\n76:6 158:17　继续\n3:1 5:1　137:5,11,12,25　罪名项\n80:3\n关切\n71:22　促成\n122:1　139:12 142:8,10　无数\n159:14\n126:25 128:22　122:7　142:11,12 145:12　国家\n175:23\n185:9　控制\n122:6　149:1 155:6,24　国家\n27:14\n得出结论\n209:7　谈话　157:13 161:15　115:23 116:8\n结论\n52:3　139:10 162:7,19　166:15 175:11　县\n211:2\n条件\n146:14　178:14 191:7　185:13 187:17,19　212:2\n行为\n155:17　谈话\n189:1,2,5,6,10,12　夫妇\n10:21 19:3\n进行\n14:10　16:13 77:22　189:18 190:4,5,20　73:8 97:13 109:22\n80:25 128:24　149:19 171:22　190:25 192:21　110:1 135:15\n155:2　178:7　198:7 202:21　138:20 149:7\n承认\n67:7　说服\n181:7,7　205:7,13 211:9,13　208:4\n确认\n92:7　确信\n180:1　212:16　过程\n14:21 47:7\n198:9 203:18　合作\n78:20　更正\n75:22　48:18,20,23 61:18\n206:23　协调\n118:12　75:23,24 76:4　81:24 85:2 121:20\n令人困惑\n22:25　副本\n210:3,7　更正\n29:18　126:2 130:5 131:7\n121:10　角落\n57:1　46:20 76:6 91:5　135:6 137:15\n混淆\n22:19　公司\n1:16　169:17　142:18 147:3,3\n23:8　9:19 15:3 44:21　更正\n214:14　154:18 170:23\nConnecticut（康涅狄格州）\n1:2　公司\n4:21　214:15 215:3,4　174:19 181:13\n2:23 3:12 7:13　23:24 34:1 168:13　正确地\n75:1　法院\n1:1 7:12,19\nConnolly（康诺利）\n170:16　168:21 170:15　107:21 172:5,16　8:18 10:4,11,11\n170:19 172:2,3,7,9　公司的　192:19　11:22 14:23 48:2\n172:19　168:3　费用\n177:8,16　50:11 57:8 85:3\n连续\n24:6　正确\n16:1 18:4　律师\n7:21 9:20　146:11 194:9\n25:2　24:19,21 30:11,12　10:15 12:20 16:13\n\n[courts - described]\n\n法院\n37:14 38:8　d　债务人\n1:9 2:4 8:8　部门\n3:4\n\n覆盖\n15:7 73:15　d\n2:21 4:1 148:25　8:10 40:6 41:24　87:9,12 128:1\n177:15　父亲\n199:13　53:11,23 85:12　155:1,9,16,23\n已覆盖\n37:9　每日\n128:16　131:4,10,25 132:7　depo\n99:4\nCOVID（新冠）\n16:5　142:17,19 149:24　132:15,19 134:21　证人的\n209:21\nCraig（克雷格）\n193:11,14　151:2 179:6,8　135:3,10 137:4　接受讯问\n13:22\n创建\n43:19 44:2　208:5,8　156:19 186:14　14:1,5,12 36:8,16\n已创建\n43:20　Daniel（丹尼尔）\n148:24　债务人的\n53:24　90:7 92:20 94:6\n114:13,24 115:8　日期\n23:17 29:13　131:17,17,18　证言\n1:14\n115:15,16 116:6,8　30:24 31:7 33:17　债务人\n146:16　5:11 7:9,15 11:7\n117:6 123:9　36:8 73:17 104:5　决定\n106:22　11:21 13:25 14:4\n资格证书\n9:25　168:3,9 214:16　107:11　14:10 15:8,12,20\n10:8　215:5 216:24　已决定\n183:1　16:10,24 17:2,12\n信用\n99:21　注明日期\n4:16,24 5:7　决定\n183:6　17:16,20 18:7,19\n101:21,25 102:14　5:15 73:16 213:1　决定\n134:20　19:7 20:1,8 21:7\n102:16,17,22,23　日期\n14:2,2 21:5　135:1,8,12,14,17　28:17 29:17 37:4\n102:25 129:4　女儿\n84:9　135:19,21,24　37:18 38:6 43:5\n195:10 196:11　David（戴维）\n2:11 7:24　136:3 137:3,5,6,14　47:24 48:2,25\n198:6,20 202:20　10:20 65:12 116:2　137:17,18,25　55:10 65:19 73:17\n203:7,23 204:11　153:15 156:9　142:19 143:8　76:20 80:25 95:8\n债权人\n2:11,21　157:22 187:23　152:8,10 153:19　95:15 96:17 109:5\n7:11 9:20 128:24　209:12　154:3,22 164:19　116:12 125:18\n债权人\n3:10 8:6　日\n49:3,6,7 50:15　165:10 179:5,8,20　130:15,18 133:17\n194:25　69:22 109:2　180:20 181:11,20　133:21 134:5\n贷记\n127:2　127:19,20 139:25　181:21 183:12　145:13 156:21\nCrystal（克丽斯特尔）\n75:7　140:1 145:21　184:2 201:1　162:13 163:1\nCSR\n1:25 213:4　163:7,10 168:15　决定\n142:14　166:23 209:15,17\n文化\n49:23,24　173:15 194:22,22　142:17 164:2　209:20 211:6,8,11\n49:24　195:15,15 196:5,5　178:25　212:9,10,12\n当前\n45:1　208:15,15 211:14　声明\n211:12　214:19,22,24\n125:10 129:3　213:1　默认\n146:20,25　215:8,10\n148:17 150:5,19　DC\n2:13 3:7　147:8　证言\n11:2\n151:24 153:3　处理\n195:21　被告\n58:9　14:24\n目前\n124:14　206:11　肯定地\n59:22　描述\n85:15\n150:2 152:18　辩论\n125:19　Delaware（特拉华州）\n4:21 5:4　92:23 174:15\n156:4,7 157:2,4　借记\n102:24 103:4　167:16 168:4,22　175:16 179:3\n190:3　103:7,13 104:6,10　171:9　描述\n68:22\n可爱\n104:2　104:15,22,24　延迟\n19:12 44:6　69:6 70:17 91:22\n105:1 198:7,23　交付\n210:7　117:12 120:14\n202:12,19 203:7　dep\n58:4　124:22 186:11\n203:24 204:11\n[description - employee]\n\n描述\n4:11　直接\n21:10 84:4　讨论\n126:1　司机\n35:10\n\n5:2　91:4 158:5　140:21 141:2　放下\n19:10\n设计\n187:5　指示\n27:7　讨论\n174:21　应付款\n16:5\n设计师\n118:11　192:15,20　展示\n132:4　挖掘\n169:8\n细节\n36:15　方向\n82:2　无视\n125:2　正式地\n9:1,11,21\n64:23 105:12　117:17 190:24　地区\n1:2 7:12　168:13,20 212:9\n113:15 147:2　直接地\n99:22　潜水\n198:8　职责\n26:18,23\n153:3 181:16　100:8,9 101:1　多元化\n45:15　44:17 45:7 46:4\n确定　103:24 110:10　114:11　69:6 77:23 169:15\n214:18,22 215:7　159:4,8,22 177:18　部门\n1:3 7:13　职责\n27:2 149:9\n发展\n115:18　主任\n4:19 28:9　文件\n20:5,7　居住\n196:23\n117:15 174:21　32:14 38:18,19,22　21:24 28:14 43:16　住所\n72:9,10\n设备\n129:18　42:23,25 43:24　43:18,22 44:2　e\nDharbach（达巴赫）\n2:14　45:25 46:13 47:20　56:18 61:13 62:24　e\n4:1,9 38:14,23\n字典\n60:9　49:5 56:9 97:20　63:9 167:1,4　39:9 147:15\n差异\n101:8　98:3 110:19 123:7　169:8,12,14 170:2　148:25 212:18\n176:17　134:19 142:6　171:8 172:21\n不同\n116:11　175:13 181:19　文件资料　214:9,12 215:1\n120:14 127:15　董事\n34:16　170:21　216:3,3,3\n136:18,20 166:2　37:10 148:18　已记录　较早\n47:1 53:11\n175:23　168:20　187:21,25 188:1,8　77:22 87:14 99:9\n118:5 158:22\n困难\n195:2　不同意\n129:8　189:4,12 190:17\n浸入\n37:5,11 42:3　156:22 158:7　文件\n15:16　176:15 182:9\n42:13 66:12 94:21　183:5,9 184:4　15:18 166:16　188:4 193:15\n125:15 130:20　193:1　169:11 170:7　195:9 207:12\n208:16\n131:22,23 132:1,4　不同意\n137:13　184:15 185:12,14　缓解\n39:16\n132:9,11,23 134:7　179:15 180:19　186:11 190:3,7　东部\n7:3 184:20\n134:8,21 135:2,9　183:1,11　207:13　190:3\n136:18,23 137:4　分歧　做\n11:21 45:10　东部\n14:19,19\n137:18 138:3,19　179:19 181:22　45:11 80:22 93:5　高效\n87:15\n139:2,5,14 140:12　182:3　115:21 117:17　八\n83:19,22\n140:21 142:21,23　分歧　128:1 141:6　84:2\n144:5,11,18 145:9　179:23 181:3　160:19\n145:17,21 146:8　消失\n48:11　美元\n179:1,9,12　十八\n72:20\n146:21,25 147:2,8　披露\n124:24,24　179:20,21 180:21　任一\n16:13 38:7\n48:10 59:22 63:19\n147:19 158:18　150:10　183:13 184:3\n159:2,6,14,16　披露\n16:12　起草\n58:18　当选\n168:20\n160:25 162:11,13　42:11　63:25 68:8　受雇\n36:1\n162:23 163:11,15　披露\n130:15　钻头\n171:5　雇员\n35:14,20\n176:17 177:3　130:23　驾驶\n194:8　78:15,16,18 79:4\n180:7　81:9,15 84:13\n85:19,23,24 86:4,6\n[雇员－家庭]\n\n123:7 151:12,17　遗产\n47:15 51:9　44:10 46:18,21　延长\n37:13 38:8\n\n153:3 154:13　51:17 114:10　47:6 55:9,10,19　延长\n176:10\n155:7 156:10　115:20 117:22,24　56:2,4,9,13 57:1　额外\n185:8\n雇员\n34:21　117:25 118:9,11　62:5,16,23 64:9　眼睛\n2:12\n37:10 48:10 78:15　181:4 182:6　67:5,19,21 73:11　f\n151:13 156:6,12　183:15,19 184:5　83:13,15 87:16,23　f\n116:22 147:15\n157:1,2 158:3　等\n68:12　87:24 88:1,2 91:4　促进\n118:12\n192:20 206:15　事件\n146:19,24　91:5,6 166:20,23　事实\n50:22 80:16\n208:12　147:7　167:9,12 171:17　80:20 89:4 123:2\n雇主\n153:5,17　每个人\n19:11　172:8 209:15,16　169:17,22\n153:19 154:3,7,20　163:19 173:24　209:17,22　因素\n153:19\n154:25 155:6　证明\n207:17　证物\n5:1 19:15　154:3\n授权　确切\n71:14 184:23　20:16 209:15　事实\n32:8 166:9\n142:14　恰好\n98:17　存在\n145:18　失败\n168:18\n忍受\n208:24　180:15　扩大\n115:18　172:24\n从事\n129:7　审查\n4:3　期待\n122:15　公平\n60:18 72:23\n英语\n8:25,25　10:17　124:10 158:18,21　74:1 90:6 94:14\n9:10,10 10:10　审查\n14:5　期待\n50:12　162:20 170:5\n11:3,5,6,7,11,25　例如\n94:6　预期\n184:10　173:17\n29:25 38:23 39:22　95:23 99:3 102:2　期待\n169:6　熟悉\n144:5,11\n40:16 50:2 55:16　102:5,6 105:10　远征\n37:13　146:19 186:20\n62:25 63:25 79:19　106:19 108:11　费用\n100:11　家庭\n86:25\n86:4 98:10 144:4　143:6 179:5　192:15 193:20,23　家庭\n24:24 29:11\n144:19 201:20　183:10,23 184:2,2　194:3　29:23 30:6,9,10,13\n203:4,7,14,15　184:7 198:14,16　昂贵\n108:6,9　30:17,19 31:2,15\n205:14,17　200:7 201:18　194:14　31:18,20 48:9\n确保\n98:24　203:22　经验\n45:1　52:1,17,23 54:22\n已确保\n98:6　示例\n182:3,5　161:24　58:12,17 68:2,7\n确保\n98:4　182:10,16 205:4　解释\n20:4 41:21　81:11 84:8 85:6,6\n企业\n118:15　超过\n20:11　64:5 75:3 151:8　85:7,11,25 86:5,6\n175:17　借口\n15:11 56:5　177:13 200:14　86:12,17 87:7\n整个\n48:8 84:17　58:5 128:3 163:18　已解释\n93:7　91:15,20 95:7\n85:7 129:15 155:7　194:4　175:6 176:16　113:6,7 115:16\n164:18 170:14　已签署\n65:10　180:25 182:4　118:3,4,7,22 119:6\n174:19　211:14　183:17　119:7,8,9,19,22\n勘误\n214:14,16　签署\n166:13　解释\n26:3　120:12,15,17,23\n215:3,5　证物\n4:11,12,16　探索\n42:1 93:5　121:3,8,13,15,17\n升级\n107:18　4:19,23 5:2,3,3,9　116:3　121:17,23,24\n143:8　19:6,7 20:15　探索\n44:23　122:22 123:21\n确立\n66:11　28:17,20 32:20,21　65:24　124:5 157:17\n33:8 35:2 43:5　164:16,17,23\n\n[家庭－十四]\n\n176:10,10 181:16　数字\n26:9 111:10　完成\n173:25　遵循\n32:4 102:15\n\n182:17 183:20　128:11 135:14　火\n171:4　168:23 197:12,18\n184:24 205:8,9,12　143:3,11,21 144:3　公司\n7:17,19 15:14　随后\n164:15\n著名\n208:1　187:16　15:25 17:21,22　以下\n109:2\n远\n37:6,10 95:14　弄清\n102:13　18:6 60:25 124:8　如下\n9:2,12,22\n98:19 124:3　195:2　193:5　58:11 214:8\n158:16 160:4　档案\n20:19 168:18　公司的\n17:23,25　食物\n95:25 99:9,20\n164:9 165:3 180:6　172:24　公司\n17:21 114:3　99:20 107:12,22\n187:15 198:21　已提交\n7:11 57:7　第一\n9:21 23:17　141:18\n父亲\n53:20 68:25　65:25 167:23　25:13 30:4 50:5　食品\n204:17\n69:12 91:20 92:18　168:19 171:8　52:10 55:1,21　205:5\n92:19 96:1,4　173:8　56:16 58:4 62:23　前述\n211:5\n98:16 99:6 108:24　提交\n168:3　62:25 69:7 75:3,7　211:13 212:8,15\n109:2 113:13　填写\n191:21　86:10 87:6 139:4　伪造\n170:8\n117:18 119:15　填写\n192:4　139:7 143:15　忘记\n29:14 30:24\n122:24 134:9　金融\n128:1　144:14 145:16,21　75:23\n136:2 143:7　160:24 162:10　153:8,13 162:9,23　原谅\n185:8\n175:25 176:6　190:23 196:12,12　163:3,7,10 168:15　忘记\n31:8\n177:22 180:11,12　197:8 198:8 199:7　174:19 201:5　表格\n13:1 121:5\n182:19,20,22　199:13　212:11　211:7\n191:8 196:1 199:9　金融\n46:14,16　钓鱼\n37:13　正式\n189:17\n199:11,23 201:9　47:13,22 49:8,9,13　五\n4:18 5:7 29:7　形成\n18:10,11\n206:22　49:20 50:3,19,22　33:1,7 41:13 59:3　Forsyth（福赛斯）\n147:14,21\n父亲的\n95:24　127:25 189:8,11　59:5 79:24 80:7　向前\n141:24,25\n100:18 134:9　189:22 191:22　85:21 168:11　第四\n142:3 195:10\n182:18 201:11　192:5　修复\n170:25 173:15　212:11\n二月\n33:11,17　财务资料\n101:16　173:19　四十\n4:14 20:20\n33:23 35:14,17　融资\n37:5　修复\n167:8　29:3,5 35:4 46:23\n联邦\n5:13　131:4,11 132:19　楼层\n72:20　47:1,3,4,8 83:19\n212:18 215:1,8,9　132:24 134:21　流动\n127:10,12,13　83:22 84:2 88:8\n费用\n107:2　135:3,10 136:23　127:14　88:14\n感觉\n98:13 153:2　发现\n23:1 110:3,23　焦点\n23:17 33:16　向前\n53:20\n200:16　151:4 204:18　136:22 163:9　88:7\n感受\n154:15　罚款\n11:11 54:14　专注\n165:10　四\n21:25 22:13\n费用\n107:5　61:10 158:13　聚焦\n166:6　22:13 30:2 36:6\n十五\n17:8,9,9　160:20　193:22　36:10,14 56:14\n138:20　完成\n12:3 63:5　文件夹\n19:16 20:16　61:19 64:22 65:8\n第五\n197:21　78:5,7　28:20　91:7,9 116:22\n198:16,19　已完成\n84:20,22　文件夹\n19:18　142:7\n五十\n59:7　116:20 205:24　各位\n112:9 163:17　十四\n157:4\n\n[框架－金色]\n\n框架\n140:9　107:7 150:5,9,10　去\n7:6 13:3　51:24 52:14 54:20\n\n坦率\n147:15　150:19 151:6,12　18:20 19:6 26:4　58:6,21,22,23\nFRCP（联邦民事诉讼规则）\n215:1　151:24 152:18,23　26:15,21,25 28:13　59:21 65:21 67:25\n频率\n109:1　153:9,17,18 154:2　29:2 37:1,12 42:9　68:10,11,16,23\n经常\n69:17　154:24 156:1　43:3 44:10 53:20　69:2,8,9,14 71:4\n70:25 80:1 83:1　157:11,14 179:12　62:13 66:3,7,12,14　71:12 72:1,8\n108:13,23 140:13　183:4 201:25　66:21 75:17 84:3　73:22 74:21,24\n朋友\n80:6　通常\n15:12　87:13 90:10 91:4　77:18,21,25 78:12\n前面\n67:20　先生\n35:11　96:6 97:9 99:7,7　78:19 79:7,15,18\n履行\n70:16　获得\n107:25　112:12 125:2,4,18　80:5,11,12,13,18\n全部\n23:24 174:24　128:10 204:24　125:24 126:3,23　80:22 81:3,6\n175:8　给予\n26:3 44:5　129:2 132:17　86:22 90:4,9,18\n完全\n129:7 130:21　71:17 82:1 96:2　135:13 136:6　91:16,17,18,24\n基金\n2:12 5:10　96:24 104:4　146:17 150:7,13　92:9,16 93:6 95:4\n9:21 99:4,8　105:10 153:3,8,8,8　158:5,20,24　95:24 97:2,20\n114:15,15 115:7　163:17 166:18　161:13 163:11,15　98:3,23 99:11\n143:6 159:2,6,16　182:21 183:25　166:19 174:2　100:16 102:7,22\n163:11 176:19　186:6 198:14,22　183:5,22 206:1　102:23,25 103:4,7\n获资助\n114:12,23　198:24 205:19　207:11,14 208:10　103:9 104:6,10,13\n115:12　已给予\n11:2 29:19　金色\n2:21 4:20　104:14,17,22,24\n资金\n42:13　75:12 96:16,19　5:3,11 7:10 8:3　105:8 107:15,18\n136:2,16 180:10　108:2 136:4 200:7　15:3,20 16:9,22　108:3 109:4,11,13\n资金\n99:6 101:15　209:7 212:16　17:2,4,10 18:9,11　109:18,21,22,25\n127:8 160:24　给予\n26:11,11　18:15,16,17,18,20　110:7,14,17,20,25\n162:10,24　给予\n204:22　18:21,24 21:5　111:11,17 113:21\n家具\n194:14　去\n11:7 20:13,16　22:8 23:11,20,24　114:12,15,23\n208:12　23:1,2 31:9 32:20　23:25 24:2,3,12,13　115:8,12,14,16\n进一步\n37:2　32:25 35:4 46:18　24:14,18,21,23　116:5,8 117:6,10\n212:20　52:8 54:2 55:21　25:6,16,18 27:6,10　118:7,14 119:4,13\ng　56:8,21 57:4,14,25　27:15 28:9 30:8　119:13,18,23\ng\n17:5,5 30:8,9　66:18 74:3 75:6,6　32:10,13,15 33:12　120:12,20,23,24\n38:22,23,24 39:9,9　75:13,24 82:5,20　33:18 34:1,3,7,9　121:1,4,15,19\n39:12,12 86:14　83:9,13,18 88:1　34:13,16,22,25　122:1,7,13,20,21\n112:24　100:4 106:3　35:14,20 36:2,24　123:8,13 124:11\n汽油\n111:8　107:15 108:5　37:21 38:1,18　124:21 125:7,14\n汽油\n109:14　129:3 144:23　40:9,18,22 41:4,17　125:22 126:21,25\n109:14　153:25 167:9,11　42:2,5,21 43:25　127:7,8,9,17\n收集\n171:12　183:9 196:20　44:15,17,21,25　128:12,19,20,23\n188:7　197:2,6 202:9,12　45:7,17,21,25 46:6　129:14,17 130:11\n一般\n27:4 46:7　去\n47:7,16 84:2　46:13 47:10,21　130:15 131:3,9\n46:8 71:20 107:4　197:14 201:8　49:5,19 50:24　132:18,21,22,23\n\n[金色－Harbach（哈巴赫）]\n\n133:7,16 134:19　准许\n130:21　138:21 139:11　发生\n32:8\n\n135:2,9 136:1,17　杂货\n201:19　143:1,4 144:2　47:24 85:18\n137:7,10 140:25　201:20 202:5,11　147:18 148:3,5,10　105:13,17 106:25\n141:24 148:6,12　203:24 204:12,16　148:19 157:8　122:15 136:14\n148:15,18 150:2,6　杂货店\n99:20　159:3,7,10,22　138:1,19,19\n150:20 151:11,25　100:21 201:21,24　161:2 163:12　170:13,23 173:3\n152:19,24 153:1　202:9,10,12　164:18 165:21　173:15,19 182:23\n153:10 156:1,6,18　203:22 205:3　172:7,12 175:12　183:8 199:9\n157:3,22 158:16　理由\n120:1　175:17 177:18　发生\n85:16\n158:17,20 159:13　猜测\n97:12　178:2,6,15,20　195:2 196:2,9\n160:21,24 163:21　165:11　179:16 180:7,20　197:22 198:2\n164:10,14 165:16　Guo（郭）\n17:4 24:24　182:19 183:1,5　199:2\n165:22 166:4,14　29:10,23 30:6,8,9　187:5 189:20　高兴\n12:12\n168:9 169:3,15,25　30:10,13,17,19　191:3,8 194:16,16　骚扰\n38:8\n170:14,20 171:14　31:2,15,17,19,25　199:4,8,11,12,15　受到骚扰\n125:14\n172:10 173:1,4　32:5 34:14 38:21　199:17,22 200:8　骚扰\n42:14\n174:16 175:3,13　39:8,9,12,21 40:3　201:7 206:11,21　124:22\n176:23 177:7,14　40:8,17,24 41:6　Guo's（郭的）\n53:20 68:10　Harbach（哈巴赫）\n2:11 4:5\n177:18 178:1,3　45:9 46:2 48:9　76:9 89:14 94:9　7:23,24 10:18,20\n180:5 184:10　53:2,5,12 55:3　106:2 113:12　12:23 13:2,5,10,11\n185:3 186:9,14　68:24 69:10,18　136:2 137:4　16:17 19:9,20,22\n187:4 188:25　70:10 75:22 76:12　142:15 170:18　19:24 20:6,14,17\n190:14,18,23　76:25 77:9,13,17　178:23 201:12　26:5,21 27:8\n191:10 192:3,11　77:22 78:12 79:14　h　28:15,19 29:17,21\n192:15 193:18　79:17 80:17,21　h\n4:9 39:13,14　37:16 38:10 40:15\n194:2,7,8 195:4,7　81:4,7,10,13,19　147:15,16 148:25　41:1,23 42:7,15,18\n195:15,22 198:22　85:6,7,24 86:5,6　171:25 216:3　42:19 43:7,9 44:6\n198:24 199:14　86:12,17,21,24　习惯\n64:24　44:9,23 45:5 52:7\n201:10,23 202:7　87:7 90:19 92:3　一半\n36:10,14 84:5　52:12,20,24 53:3,8\n202:10 206:8,13　95:23 96:9 97:14　手\n8:20 9:5,15　53:15,18 54:7,9,14\n206:22 207:14　98:15 99:4 100:15　57:1 167:22　54:17 55:4,7,8,13\n208:5,8 209:9　104:17 106:10,21　递交\n149:23　59:15 60:3 65:2,4\nGoldenSpringNY（纽约金泉）\n214:2　109:23 110:10　处理\n134:23　65:14,20 66:16\n214:8　67:3,7,17,18 71:8\n良好\n7:5,23 8:1　113:7,10,23　处理\n78:19　71:9,21,24 73:4,6\n10:3,19 11:19　114:14 115:2,17　讲义\n118:10　76:17,19 83:10,12\n49:14 53:22 55:18　115:17,22 116:6　悬挂\n70:13 151:22　87:2,4 90:6,14\n56:20 88:11　116:18 117:7,7,13　发生\n127:20　93:1 94:22 95:21\n112:20 141:6　120:15 134:6,22　197:20 198:4,5,10　104:1,3 111:15,21\n197:25　134:25 135:1,8,18　198:17,17　111:23 112:1,6,11\n136:3 137:13　112:19 116:3,16\n\n[Harbach（哈巴赫）－hr]\n\n霍\n1:8 2:5 7:11 8:8\n11:15 31:12\n39:18 40:6 41:16\n36:20 37:18 40:15\n41:24 42:1 45:18\n51:6 52:5 73:15\n45:22 52:1,16,22\n81:24,24 82:3\n53:5,7,9,13,21\n89:13,15,20 90:19\n54:22 58:9,16\n106:2 131:5,14\n66:7 68:2,6,11,20\n146:5 147:1\n70:16 72:3,9,17　204:21 205:11\n206:1,14 214:4\n216:1\n\n持有\n119:24 142:7\n\n持有\n212:6\n\n抢劫\n70:14\n\nHolley（霍利）\n3:5 8:15\n\nHolley L. Claiborn（霍利·L·克莱伯恩）\n3:8\n81:16,21 82:1,10　家\n72:16 73:2\n82:19,23 83:7　204:15\n84:15 85:1,13,19　诚实\n50:8,12,17\n85:23 86:8 87:19　61:22 132:10\n88:18 89:5,13　诚实地\n26:13\n90:16 91:2,14　191:15\n92:10 93:14 94:16　香港\n18:16,18,20\n95:7 97:22 98:4　18:21,25 21:5\n98:24 99:13 100:8　22:6,8 23:11,12,20\n100:12,24 101:4　23:22 24:3,7,8,12\n101:12 102:17　24:13,21,23 25:1,3\n103:13 104:5,9,14　25:3,3,6,7,16,19\n104:21 105:5,15　27:10,15,16 30:5\n105:24 106:6,15　31:23 32:1,3,4\n106:23,24 107:8　44:15,18 45:7,17\n108:22 110:25　45:22\n111:13 115:3,6　希望\n55:14 146:1\n118:6 119:10,20　希望地\n44:7\n119:22 121:3,23　107:6 205:22\n121:25 122:6,21　绝望地\n165:19\n136:18 139:13,18　希望\n118:25\n\n希望\n195:3,7\n\n酒店\n27:12 102:2\n102:4,7,8\n\n房屋\n3:11 72:12\n72:14 201:21\n202:2\n\n内务事项\n10:21\n\n小时\n87:9,11 155:1,9\n155:16,23\n\n153:22 166:20\n77:1,4 81:4,9,15\n169:11,12 188:12\n192:15 195:3,8\n43:18\n37:24\n38:24 92:24 94:1\n90:23\n191:20\n36:22\n212:11\n125:13\n150:12\n107:8 194:7\n154:9\n152:8,14\n153:19 154:4,6,9\n86:8,11,17\n140:14,21 149:21\n87:8,12 91:17\n151:7,14 172:19\n151:25 169:2,23\n176:23 177:6,16\n177:19 178:8,15\n152:25\n178:17 186:1\n187:7,10 189:1,16\n170:6\n189:20 191:6,9,16\n192:13 193:20\n15:1\n195:11 196:2\n114:18 115:5\n199:19 200:4,24\n201:1,6,24 204:20\n[嗯——投资]\n\n嗯\n54:2 101:2　118:9,10 151:12　指示\n45:8　口译员\n3:17\n\nHull（赫尔）\n1:25 7:19　170:14 179:6　69:10 89:14,22　9:14 10:2,4,5,7,9\n212:5 213:4　收入\n118:17,18　91:18 94:9 96:2,9　10:10,11 11:8\n\n谦逊\n48:14　118:20 119:2　96:16,19,24 98:16　31:12 40:20,21\n49:24 50:7,21　123:14,18,21　98:18 106:2 108:2　52:5,21,22 53:1,4\n\n一百\n4:17　124:9　125:2 130:24　53:6,14,17 54:7,10\n105:22 120:17　公司注册\n5:5　133:6　54:11,25 55:6\n\n数百\n82:15　168:4,9　诚信\n127:1　59:18 81:1 131:12\n\n伤害\n129:19　表明\n188:4　128:22　131:13,14,15,16\n174:23　表明\n57:21　意图\n15:6　133:11 143:13,18\n\n伤害了\n175:7　个别地\n121:7　预定\n146:1　143:22,23 144:8\n\n丈夫\n201:25　推论\n94:14　意图为\n158:23　144:12,13 146:5\n\n我　影响\n13:13　互动\n80:5　147:1,9,24,25\n\n通知\n23:18　互动过\n74:23　153:22 154:5\n\n识别\n19:8　信息\n16:20　79:6,14,19 80:10　200:18 201:3,4,14\n28:18 43:6 55:11　36:19 51:4 60:1　互动\n80:17　口译员\n8:19\n128:10 166:24　61:23 62:4,10　80:21　解释\n40:20\n209:18　64:2 130:8 156:8　互动\n80:3　52:20 59:18\n\n识别\n156:13　156:14　利益\n146:11　131:12\n\n身份\n127:5　获悉\n87:11　186:22,24 187:3,7　打断\n30:15\n128:9 150:10　通知\n26:10　187:11,13 189:16　75:19 150:12\n153:18 154:2　内部\n16:13　感兴趣\n47:18　打断\n76:18\n\nII\n2:11　155:25　128:10 145:6,8　采访\n152:12\n\n即时\n85:6　失效\n166:7　212:22　152:15 154:6,15\n\n立即　168:16 169:4,17　有趣\n151:4　154:15\n152:18,25 186:10　169:19,25 171:14　利益\n51:25　采访\n118:10\n\n损害\n13:14　172:23 173:2,13　52:16 54:21 58:8　侵害\n146:1\n\n重要\n11:21\n\n印象\n75:12　输入\n180:8　58:16 68:2,6,20　投资\n120:25\n\n不真实\n170:8　询问\n116:7　87:19 88:18 90:16　175:25\n\n包括\n24:4 85:18　坚持\n76:11　91:3,14 95:7　已投资\n176:5\n89:15 111:3,6　指示\n20:11　干涉\n13:15　投资\n118:2\n125:3 157:8,12　26:15 37:2,14　内部\n102:11　投资\n114:11\n164:5　38:3 42:9 66:5,6　解释\n8:24 9:1　115:20 117:20,25\n\n已包括\n119:19　66:14 67:15　9:9,11 183:22　118:23 123:16,22\n116:14 126:23　201:15　123:23 124:6\n214:14 215:3\n\n包括\n119:10　被指示\n6:1　被解释\n9:2,12　174:15,24 175:3,9\n\n包括\n48:9　95:24 141:21　143:22 144:12　175:22 176:3\n84:8,12 89:14　指示\n42:16　147:9,25 154:5　179:24 181:3,4,21\n91:20 92:18,19,21　67:9 129:9　188:6 201:3　183:15,19\n\n95:25 99:4 115:19\n[投资——孔]\n\n投资\n154:14 174:19　知悉\n12:12 14:22　154:8,12,14\n\n118:25　196:12 214:5　21:13,16 22:25　155:11 159:9,15\n\n投资\n118:24　216:2　28:1 31:6 32:21　160:13 161:1,2\n\n发票\n148:7,15　Johnston（约翰斯顿）\n3:17 8:23　33:3 38:11,15,16　162:19 163:1,4,15\n148:16　10:6 11:15 12:15　39:11 41:23 48:24　163:16,23 165:4\n\n涉及\n99:12　52:11 54:3 55:5　49:14 50:3 54:10　170:12,18,18,21\n124:20 133:2,5,10　59:15 98:11 131:8　55:1 56:18 59:9　170:23 172:20,25\n134:20,24 135:15　133:12 143:17　59:10,12,13,17　173:4,10,10,12,14\n135:16 143:24　144:10 147:5　60:7,9,10,19 61:4　175:12 180:15\n144:14 152:7,24　153:25 200:23　61:7,21 63:7,14,20　185:18 187:15\n164:7 179:20　Jonathan（乔纳森）\n3:10 8:4　64:6 70:2 73:21　191:3 192:9 193:5\n180:20 183:12　法官\n127:13　74:11,22 75:9　193:11,12 194:6\n191:4,20 192:4,12　判决书\n23:19　78:4,11,14,16,17　194:22,23 195:9\n196:4　判决书\n23:19　78:4,11,14,16,17　197:5,15,17\n\n涉及\n197:3　127:11,12,14　78:18 80:13 82:14　198:21 199:3,22\n\n涉及\n13:24　跳跃\n154:13　84:20 86:19 95:10　199:24 200:1\n178:25 179:9　司法\n3:4　100:10,12,23　201:10 203:6\n184:3　K　102:1,20 103:12　204:1,14,23,25\n\n争点\n41:20 127:10　K\n38:14,14 39:13　103:22 105:3　205:2,7,8 207:6,7\n127:12,13,14　39:13,14,14　107:9 108:15,15　208:23\n132:20 142:22　148:25　108:17,18,24,25　知情\n46:15\n149:8,11 153:12　Kaplan（卡普兰）\n3:10 8:4,4　109:1 110:6,9,19　46:17 47:14,15,22\n156:10 164:21　19:18　110:22 111:11,13　49:8,10,13,20,25\n183:12　Kaulet（考利特）\n2:9　111:14 112:6,23　50:19,23 51:10,18\n\n争点\n124:20　保留\n57:13 130:9　113:3,25 114:6　60:2 62:9 64:3\n128:25 157:20　132:17 151:20　115:11,13 116:25　104:21 105:2\n\n项目\n108:7　Kenneth（肯尼斯）\n2:5 8:7　117:1,5,9 120:7　121:25 122:4,5,11\n\nJ　Kern（克恩）\n211:2 212:2　122:15 124:3,3,8\n\n监狱\n84:6,11 86:2,3　绑架\n47:11　125:17 128:15,19　150:1 160:22\n\nJalbert（贾尔伯特）\n193:11,14　被绑架\n48:11　130:7 131:23　172:18 188:21\n\nJam（贾姆）\n1:8 7:14　84:11 86:2　132:1,9,11 133:3,9　206:24 207:4,10\n\nJeff（杰夫）\n7:17 112:7　孩子\n121:20　133:11,15 134:1,1　已知\n175:18\n\nJeffrey（杰弗里）\n3:16　种类\n49:9 73:23　134:14 135:5,6　知道\n53:10,12\n\n猛拉\n57:13　96:5 122:23 138:8　136:12 141:16,17　136:6 173:24\n\nJerry（杰里）\n170:17,18,24　146:15 151:15　141:24 142:1　孔\n18:16,18,20\n171:18 172:9,9　163:22 195:21　143:2,10,20　18:21,25 21:5\n\nJKaplan（J·卡普兰）\n3:13　203:11 206:17　144:15 145:18　22:6,8 23:11,12,20\n\n工作\n34:15 65:21　种类\n141:18　146:10,13,24　23:22 24:3,7,8,12\n66:1 93:5 149:9　知道\n53:11 75:11　147:7,12,14,17,21　24:13,21,23 25:1,3\n149:17 151:11,13　136:5　150:19,21 151:20　25:3,3,6,7,16,19\n151:21 154:12,13　152:17 153:1,2,14　27:10,15,16 30:5\n\n[孔——行]\n\n31:23 32:1,3,4　189:20 191:6,9,16　律师\n126:17　喜欢\n197:6\n\n44:15,18 45:7,17　191:21 192:4　132:5 150:18　限制\n138:4,8\n45:22　193:20 194:1　172:1　有限\n2:22 4:21\n\n韩国人\n35:10　195:1,11 196:2　律师\n17:20,20　5:12 17:4 18:9,11\n\nKwok（郭文贵）\n1:8 2:5 7:11　197:20 198:20　18:6 62:24 155:25　18:17 43:25 46:1\n8:8 37:25 38:11　199:19 200:4,24　208:2　47:21 51:24 52:14\n38:14 39:6 40:6　201:1,24 204:21　学习\n48:17 142:24　54:20 58:7 59:21\n41:16,24 42:4　205:11 206:1,14　191:1　90:18 91:16,24\n45:18,22 52:1,16　206:19 214:4　获悉\n114:2,14　92:9 93:6 95:4\n52:16,22,22 53:5,7　216:1　114:25 134:4　98:3,23 99:12\n53:9,13,21 54:22　Kwok's（郭文贵的）\n39:18 42:1　140:12 146:15　103:10 104:13\n58:9,16 66:7 68:2　74:15 76:22 87:19　162:10,23 163:7　110:18,20 111:12\n68:6,11,19 70:16　88:17 90:16 91:2　163:10 171:13　113:21 114:23\n72:3,9,17 74:11　97:3,22,22 98:4　176:9,12　115:8,12 117:6,10\n75:11,13,25 76:25　100:12,24 103:13　租赁\n208:11,19　118:8,14 119:5\n77:1,4 81:4,9,15　104:5,9,14 110:25　已租赁\n111:6,12　120:12 121:4,16\n81:16,21 82:1,10　177:16 192:8,13　离开\n25:2 127:5　122:2,8,14 124:11\n82:19,23 83:7　201:6 204:20　175:2 193:17　127:7,18 128:12\n84:15 85:1,10,10　206:9　留下\n30:3 31:8 67:8　131:10 133:16\n85:13,19,23 86:8　Kwong（邝）\n75:9　法律\n7:18,20 52:2　134:20 137:11\n88:18 89:5,5,13　L　59:22,25 60:12,14　148:18 156:7\n91:14 92:10 93:14　L\n3:5,6 38:14,23　61:13,21 107:2,5　157:3 158:18\n94:16 95:7,12　170:17 171:25　182:18 209:11　160:22 163:22\n98:24 99:13 100:8　L.P.\n2:12 9:21　214:7　165:22 166:15\n101:4,12 102:17　L.P.'s\n5:10　贷款人\n42:3 131:25　168:10 169:25\n103:3 104:21　放置\n164:15　132:6 146:16　172:10 175:14\n105:5,15,24 106:6　语言\n30:1　贷款人\n139:1　177:15 180:6\n106:15,23,24　39:23 50:2 62:25　信函\n153:9,13　186:10 192:3\n107:8,25 108:12　63:25 64:1 68:4,8　许可证\n51:21　193:19 195:5,7\n108:22 109:7　79:19 85:2,4　获许可\n51:14　206:14\n111:13 115:3,6　89:21 93:16,17　生命\n61:5,8 195:25　Limited's\n119:18\n118:6 119:10,20　148:2　197:3　123:14 126:22\n119:22 121:3,23　晚\n28:11　生活方式\n68:12　130:12\n121:25 122:6,21　启动\n175:18　96:1 97:3,22 98:5　豪华轿车\n108:17\n136:18 139:13,18　法律\n2:6,12,16,22　98:24 99:9 100:12　加长豪华轿车\n108:13\n140:14,21,23　3:5,11 15:14,24　107:13 192:14　108:15\n149:21 151:7,14　17:23,25 60:25　193:20,23 194:3　行\n6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9\n172:19 176:23　84:10 114:3 124:8　194:15 196:6　6:10,11 22:4 23:9\n177:6,19 178:8,15　法律\n168:21　一生\n59:1　29:7 33:8 35:8\n178:17 186:1　诉讼\n174:22　轻\n127:2 128:23　74:10 84:2,2 85:9\n187:7,10 189:1,16　130:16 185:9　88:13 214:15\n\n132:4,6,13,13\n\n[行——标记]\n\n215:4 216:4,7,10　132:4,6,13,13　锁定\n214:12　M\n\n216:13,16,19　133:1,2,4,6,16,19\n215:1　M\n2:15 38:14,23\n\n行\n37:3　133:20 134:5,7,8　长\n80:24 81:8,14\n171:25\n\n清算\n127:6,17　136:18,23 137:4　84:1,13 85:19,22　女士\n20:24\n128:6　137:18 138:3,19　85:24 86:4,6 87:3　21:15 54:4 56:5\n\n清单\n37:6　139:2,5,14 140:13　96:3,11,12 97:2,4　57:16 71:5 83:23\n\n听\n65:14　140:21 142:21,23　97:6 98:18 103:18　88:3 91:8 98:1,9\n160:20　144:6,11,15,18　115:25 116:7,17　145:5 146:22\n\n诉讼\n13:23　145:9,17,22 146:8　117:5,5 145:1,3　169:7 190:15\n14:6 37:13 38:8　146:10,14,21,25　164:11 165:3　维持\n130:16 136:1,16　147:2,8,19 158:19　207:2　170:25\n136:23 170:7　158:20 159:2,6,14　更长\n96:15　维持\n176:19,24 177:8　159:16 160:25　看\n23:9 33:7　126:25\n177:16 178:16　162:11,13,24　35:2,8 46:25 55:9　主要\n79:17\n180:10 182:20　163:11,15 176:17　88:13 122:22　123:20\n184:9 186:13,21　177:3 180:7　168:11　多数\n78:19\n187:17 188:25　185:12,14 186:4　寻找\n29:7 49:10　主要地\n78:19\n191:17 206:2　186:12 188:5,9　50:4,5 51:5 60:7,8　Makenzie（麦肯齐）\n3:19\n207:18　189:4,8,10,12,15　60:9 62:6 74:5　8:11\n\n小\n19:13 22:13　189:22,23 190:17　89:18 136:11　作出\n97:21\n23:2,6 30:25　191:10 206:6　165:8 205:1　135:11 165:10\n\n男子的\n101:5\n\n管理\n155:7\n\n普通话\n3:17,18\n\nManhattan（曼哈顿）\n194:8\n\nManning's（曼宁的）\n127:13\n\nMarch（3月）\n5:7,15\n18:13,14 134:15\n\nMark（马克）\n19:6\n\n标记\n19:8,15\n20:16 28:18 43:6\n55:11 166:24\n209:18\n\n案件 22-50073 文件 440-26 提交于 05/25/22 录入于 05/26/22 15:30:37 第 260 页\n\n[Mary——混合]\n\nMary（玛丽）\n171:25　120:21,22,24　93:13 94:3 95:9\n75:25 76:25\n\n事项\n37:4 72:15　121:20 123:10,17　128:7,8 188:19\n108:24 110:9\n108:6 130:19　123:21 124:5,7　201:14\n百万\n142:23\n144:14 154:8,10　125:12 127:8,9　媒体\n7:8 209:10\n143:2,11,21,24\n154:20　129:16,21 132:5　药物\n12:19\n144:3 146:10\n事项\n10:21　135:4,11 136:2　13:13　177:8 179:9,12,20\n150:8 154:19　137:18 138:17　会面\n15:19,21,22\n179:21 180:21\n178:25　139:24 141:25　15:23 16:2,5,21\n181:8 182:11,13\nMaybach（迈巴赫）\n108:13　142:5 144:21　18:5 80:8 139:19　183:12 184:3,9\n108:18,23 109:7　146:21 148:11　142:18　186:4,13 187:17\n109:10,19,21　149:24 151:14,17　会面\n141:15　187:21 188:24\n110:7,21 111:12　152:14 155:7,8　成员\n84:8　206:1 208:19\n111:18　158:1 161:25　119:22 120:17　数百万\n178:25\n意思是\n14:7 15:22　164:12,16,16,20　121:17,23,24　Miltenberger（米尔滕贝格）\n18:2\n15:22,23 17:24　164:22 174:23　122:22 205:11　心\n52:9 80:4\n21:21 23:21 25:11　177:12,13,19　成员\n120:22　91:1 107:24\n27:11,12,12,17,18　179:13,23 180:15　记忆\n13:14　194:23\n27:23 28:1 30:1　180:24 182:12,18　我的\n93:3\n30:19 31:25 33:21　183:17 184:21　男士\n101:8,11　微型\n21:17\n34:6 36:4,7,10,14　188:1,3,9 189:4　提及\n198:11　21:18,21\n39:6 40:11,12,14　190:13 191:12　提及\n34:8　最低限度\n208:20\n43:20 46:8,9,16　195:14,17,20　次要\n121:20\n48:8,16,21 50:3,10　196:10,12,14　分钟\n168:2\n50:21 53:6 56:4,9　199:3,5,21,21,24　分钟\n17:9,9\n58:24 59:10 60:8　200:20 201:20,25　171:16 182:6,8　62:22 66:20 79:24\n60:23 62:18,19　202:24 203:2,6,15　184:5 190:16　80:8 85:21 97:13\n70:6 71:14 72:10　204:15 206:3,5,11　208:4　135:16 172:15\n72:11 73:1 80:6,8　206:21 208:11,11　提及\n185:6　歪曲\n81:23 82:8,11　含义\n70:9 77:9　提及\n66:6　161:7\n85:25 86:18 88:22　82:23 85:18 86:5　合并\n27:21　歪曲\n89:12,17,23 92:1　86:20 89:20 93:25　信息\n195:17　159:19 161:5\n92:22 93:16,16　104:9 105:4　会见\n17:19 35:10　缺少\n164:21\n96:1,4,5 97:5 98:6　121:10 125:1　错误的\n128:8\n98:16 100:4,15,17　186:21　误解\n101:14 102:4,11　意味着\n58:17,20　140:15 145:8　200:16\n102:16 103:20,22　59:13 78:15 88:13　被误解\n105:12 108:9,14　89:25 91:3,21　方法\n203:11\n30:16 39:24\n109:21 111:25　93:9,18 120:9　英里\n85:10\n143:14 200:12\n114:16 116:13,19　134:2 135:5 142:3　Mileson（米尔森）\n37:25　混合\n24:22 70:11\n118:18 119:7　意味着\n49:14 55:1　38:11,23 39:6,8,18　80:2\n120:7,13,14,15,16　68:5 71:10 87:19　74:11 75:9,11,13\n\n[混合 - 新]\n\n混合\n99:25　移动\n22:6 23:11　151:17 163:1　30:4,4,11,18 31:2\n\n100:22　23:22 27:21 28:4　173:18 185:6　31:14,22,23 32:1,2\n母亲\n100:22　29:22　194:7,8,9 195:17　32:3,11,13,15\n时刻\n12:10　多个\n20:9　196:4,12 197:11　33:13,19 34:1,4,7\n15:24 17:19 19:9　Murray（默里）\n2:15　199:7 203:6　34:13,17,25 35:21\n37:17 44:5 60:17　静音\n167:10　204:18 206:3　36:2,24 37:21\n69:1,3 87:14 99:8　174:11　需要\n69:21 70:2　38:1,2 40:9,10,11\n104:20 117:18　Myers（迈尔斯）\n2:11 7:24　78:21 79:21 80:9　40:14,17,18,23,24\n119:17 120:11　8:12 209:13　89:21,25 139:19　41:2,4,7,16,18\n121:12 140:12　神秘\n194:24　139:21,23,24　42:2,6,21 43:25\n151:22 156:25　n　140:7 196:7　44:21,25 46:1,6,14\n171:3,12 179:14　n\n4:1 17:5 30:8　201:21　47:21 49:5,19\n190:16 193:22　需要\n89:16 92:11　51:24 52:14 54:20\n钱\n114:17,22　39:12,13,14 86:14　92:18 97:22 98:5　57:8 58:7 59:21\n115:7,11 118:2,24　112:24 171:25　98:24 99:9 195:12　65:22 68:1 69:8\n118:25 122:1,7,20　名称\n7:17 10:20　195:13 196:6　69:10,15 71:13,13\n127:17 128:11,14　17:5,18,23,25 18:4　202:20 206:20　72:1,1,4,8 73:22\n128:16,19,20　38:12,20,22,23,24　被忽视\n87:22　81:3,6 90:18\n159:9,16 160:2,6　52:10 53:4,12,13　谈判达成\n187:3,6　91:16,17,19,24\n160:14 161:23　53:19,24 54:12,13　正在谈判\n191:4　92:9,17 93:6 95:4\n163:3,7,11 175:24　64:3 76:7,9,14　谈判\n133:2　97:2 98:3,23\n176:4 178:11　134:11 147:15　133:5　99:11 103:10\n180:13 208:5　150:19 170:16　两者均不\n54:15　104:6,10,13,15,22\n钱款\n159:1,5　171:18 175:20　212:20　104:24 109:11,13\n月\n96:14,15　193:12,17 211:11　侄子\n84:9　109:18 110:7,15\n109:6 138:17　被指定\n93:17　Netherland（荷兰）\n72:21　110:17,20,25\n每月\n192:8,13　148:24 212:8　从不\n29:13 30:24　111:11,17 113:2\n月\n19:4 73:21　本地的\n58:20 59:21　31:8,8,9 39:5,6　113:20,21 114:12\n73:25 77:20,21,24　64:1 79:19 93:17　74:23 79:6 81:17　114:23 115:8,12\n78:23 148:23　148:2　82:16 86:1,8　115:15 117:6,10\n149:3,7 173:7,17　自然的\n96:5,7　104:21,24 173:4　118:3,8,14 119:5\n早晨\n7:5,23　必然地\n116:13　178:11 180:11　119:18 120:12\n8:1 10:3,19　必要的\n211:9　198:22 204:7　121:4,16 122:2,8\n181:11 185:1,1　214:14 215:3　新\n1:19,19 2:7,7　122:14 123:14\n母亲\n11:6 29:25　需要\n11:8 32:4　2:17,17,22 4:20　124:11 125:7\n39:22 50:2　46:25 52:5 63:22　5:4,12 7:1,1,10　126:22 127:7,18\n移动\n25:9,11　66:17 70:2 98:11　8:3 10:12 14:23　128:12 129:14\n27:24 28:1,2 29:9　99:17 101:7,15　15:4 17:4 18:9,11　130:12 131:4,10\n30:1 31:14 65:12　106:9,20 107:18　18:15,17 23:24　132:19,21,22,23\n65:16 67:13 117:7　112:3 126:13　24:2,15,18 27:6　133:16 134:19\n129:10　28:9 29:10,23　135:2,9 137:10\n136:8,10 143:17\n\n[新 - 好的]\n\n140:25 148:12,18　注意到\n156:22　52:2,18 54:23　提供\n81:24 92:2\n\n150:3,6,20 156:1,7　11月\n4:24　65:11 71:16 90:2　111:16 120:9\n156:18 157:3　数字\n7:13 10:6　92:13 94:17 95:18　154:22\n158:18 160:22　19:7 20:7 22:13　103:23 116:1　已提供\n36:19\n163:22 164:14　28:15,17 43:4,5,10　121:5 122:9 123:4　93:18,22 120:24\n165:22 166:4,15　55:10 56:14 85:10　124:19 125:4　办公室\n115:17\n168:10 169:16,25　91:9 100:23 105:1　129:7,24 130:14　118:3 119:7\n174:16 175:14　157:1 166:23　140:6 153:11　123:21 124:6\n176:23 177:7,14　182:3 186:7　156:11 159:18　141:16,16,19,20\n178:1 180:5 181:5　187:19 198:5　161:4 165:5,17　141:21,21 157:18\n184:10,25 185:4　203:19,21 209:10　166:9 170:2　164:16,17,23\n186:10,15 187:4　209:17 212:7　191:23 193:1　181:17 182:17\n189:1 190:19　214:15 215:4　203:25　183:20 184:19,24\n192:3,12 193:18　编号的\n21:19　异议\n12:21　185:3,4 190:4\n194:2 195:5,7　数字\n22:3,20　13:1 158:8　208:12 214:11\n199:23 201:10　22:22 32:24,25　明显的\n101:6　官员\n4:19 28:8\n206:8,13 207:15　众多\n121:13　140:3 175:20　32:14 43:24 56:9\n208:8 209:9　204:2,4　193:15　123:8 175:13\n好\n110:4　nw\n2:12 3:6　显然\n54:15　官员\n37:9\nNichols（尼科尔斯）\n3:16 7:17　o　65:15 86:1 93:20　148:17\n侄女\n84:9　o\n17:5 30:9 38:14　95:23 100:18　办公室\n140:25\n九\n29:3,5　38:14,23,23,24　101:11 102:7　官方的\n76:14\n点头\n176:14　39:9,12,13,13,14　106:9,20 107:18　正式地\n23:25\n噪音\n171:6　39:14 112:24　109:2 117:15　24:17 40:22\n未付款　116:22 147:16　127:21 129:16　170:13\n168:17 172:23　148:25　137:6 140:2　哦\n22:23 25:22\n正常\n102:12　点钟\n67:2 112:8　141:14 154:8　65:20 69:3 71:6,8\n公证人\n57:20　174:1　170:24 171:19　86:23 96:3 109:20\n注记\n214:15　O'Melveny（欧麦律师事务所）\n2:11　194:15 198:8　115:16 139:19\n215:4　7:24 8:12 209:13　199:7,22　140:15 144:24\n注记\n207:16　宣誓\n50:10 60:15　场合\n140:20　157:4 161:6 163:3\n注意\n57:12 116:10　141:3 179:3　163:5 198:4\n129:8 158:6　61:14 64:25　180:18　好的\n9:25 10:24\n192:22,25　反对\n20:10 26:22　场合\n105:24　11:6,17,19 12:1,6\n注意到\n111:22　65:3 120:1 122:17　131:20 179:15　12:9,16,19 13:2,3\n笔记\n189:7,22　125:24 126:23　发生\n136:24　13:10,21 14:21,24\n207:20　128:21 150:7　10月\n4:14 13:23　15:11,16 18:5,22\n通知\n5:10 15:8　157:19 192:24　14:10,25 36:9　18:24 19:5,20\n209:19　209:21　73:16 75:10 77:14　20:18,23 22:3,24\n注意到\n125:18　异议\n16:11　78:11 79:13 96:17　23:8,16,18 24:9,20\n160:23　26:1,20 38:3　171:9 173:8　25:9,21 27:20\n41:19 44:19 45:3\n\n案号 22-50073　文件 440-26　提交日期 05/25/22　登记日期 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 263 页\n\n204:19 205:15,19 206:16,24 207:11 207:21,24 208:21 omm.com 2:14,19\n\n曾经 13:23 69:22 69:25 83:3,5 105:20 109:7 那些 190:1,1,2 在线 196:21\n\n197:6 202:11,17 202:19 203:13,16\n\n开放 20:25 28:24\n\nooooo 210:9\n\n打开 56:6\n\n2:19\n\n的 280\n\n29:7,17 31:10,24 32:20,24 33:7 136:22 137:2,9,16 138:6,9,12,15\n\n133:8 135:7\n\n139:4,10 140:17 141:2,11,23 142:2 142:9,14 143:2 145:1 146:13\n\n148:1,17,22 149:6 149:16,19 150:11 150:15,16,22 151:4 152:2,7,17 153:4 155:15,17 157:11,14 158:6 158:10,14 160:9 161:11,22 162:7 162:15 163:14,17 163:19 164:1,5,9\n\n28:4,13,23 29:2,3\n\n[好的 - 页]\n\n34:15 35:8 37:25 38:17 39:3,8,18 40:5 42:18 43:13 43:18 44:12 45:16 47:4 48:4 50:15 51:7,16 52:7 53:17 54:6,14 55:7,14 56:6,7,12 56:15 57:4,12,25 60:4,6,13,17 61:10 61:25 66:16 67:17 67:22 69:22,24 70:3,13,25 71:2,7 73:3,10,15,18 74:3 74:8 76:2,10 77:7 77:16 79:5 82:22 83:6,9,13,18 84:1 84:22 85:15 87:1 87:21 88:6,11 89:23 90:15,21,25 93:24 94:8 95:22 96:16 97:7 98:14 98:21 99:2,24 100:7,23 101:24 102:13,25 103:3 104:20 105:10 106:4,12,22 108:18,20 109:8 110:4,16,24\n\n111:19,21 112:11 112:23 113:1,3,16 113:19 114:12 117:21 118:1,5,24 119:10 120:11,19 120:22 121:2 123:20 124:4 125:1 126:16,19 132:1,9,15,16\n\n166:2,19 167:8,15　经营\n164:10\n\n168:1 169:1,24　运营\n97:14\n171:3,4,21 172:4　192:8,13 208:7,11\n172:11,18,21　运营\n127:9\n173:6,10 175:2,10　128:17 142:17,19\n175:12,16 176:4,8　149:24 174:20\n176:15,21,25　179:6\n177:2,6,11,25　运营活动\n179:8\n178:11,16,24　195:15 208:6,8,15\n179:3,14,18　意见\n179:4\n180:23 181:2,6,25　184:4\n183:4,10 185:5　机会\n2:12\n186:2,4,8,18　5:10 9:21 181:22\n187:20 188:15,22　口头\n190:2,12\n189:9,21,24 190:6　191:2,5,17 207:17\n190:11,24 192:11　命令\n12:14\n192:16,19,22　111:12 162:12\n193:2,11,13,24　组织\n194:6,18 195:19　122:6\n196:5,18,20　组织\n168:13\n\n定向 73:16 原件 168:3 214:10,21\n\n43:14 55:19 56:16 经营 46:6 118:3 起初 32:4 176:5 结果 212:23 服装 179:6 外部 16:14 31:20 114:8 胜过 129:5 越权 130:17 拥有 18:18 86:24 109:21,23 115:17 206:8 所有人 17:3 30:8 45:8 46:9 58:22 78:17 86:18 91:18 92:17 101:16 119:12 122:24,24 123:2,5 132:21,22 133:7 137:7 160:17 177:18 181:19 所有权 37:8 拥有 109:22 110:1 110:7,20 111:10 111:17 122:6 206:25 p p 86:14 148:25 下午 174:4 209:6 210:8 Pacific（太平洋） 2:11 5:9 7:11,25 8:12,14 9:20 174:22 175:7 209:13 页 4:3,11 5:2 6:3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 6:11 21:10,14,16\n\n21:20,24 22:3,4,12 22:12,13,17,20,22 23:2,6,6,9,21 29:3 29:5 32:24,25,25\n\n197:10,23 198:11 198:14 199:17 200:1,14 201:5 202:14,18,22\n\n[页 - 请]\n\n33:7 35:4 46:23　当事人\n42:12　146:17 187:1　207:3,9\n\n47:3,4,7 55:22　当事人\n47:11 84:7　完美\n11:10　亲自\n41:2,6\n56:16,21,22 57:1,4　212:21　履行\n149:9　90:5 155:5,17,21\n57:12,14,15,25　通过\n36:11　已履行\n26:19　191:4,20\n63:2 73:15 74:3,8　已通过\n49:2　26:19,23 95:12　人员\n15:19\n83:18 84:1 88:8　耐心\n166:25　期间\n24:6 25:2　16:22 193:18\n88:13 167:11,22　205:22 209:3　25:25 58:12　涉及\n20:5\n170:17 212:11　Pax\n13:24 14:4,10　134:23 156:3　电话\n70:10 80:2\n214:15 215:4　125:13 127:3　203:10 214:18　身体上的\n26:22\n216:4,7,10,13,16　128:24 129:15,16　215:7　157:20\n216:19　129:18,19　伪证\n211:12　身体上\n25:6\n页\n4:15,18,22　支付\n68:11 81:17　214:17 215:6　27:9,11,18 196:20\n4:25 5:8,16 20:20　81:17 95:24 111:8　永久的\n27:25　挑选\n35:24\n21:17,18,21,25　120:23 145:19　永久地　挑剔\n152:15\n22:21,22 23:3　146:16,17,23　27:21,23　部分\n60:14\n74:5 88:8 214:14　148:12 177:8　许可\n106:16　Ping\n1:17 4:13,23\n214:17,17 215:3,6　194:2,7,8 206:4,6　107:10,25 142:16　9:18 56:17 211:4\n215:6　206:14,15,22　遭受迫害\n48:10　212:8 214:1,5\n已支付\n97:23 98:5　付款\n97:3,16　人\n11:22　216:2\n109:11 120:10　99:12 109:17　15:22 16:2 39:1,7　地点\n161:20\n121:1 122:1　208:11,12　59:22 60:15 61:13　212:11\n123:23 147:22　付款\n99:18　70:10,22,24 74:18　地点\n27:19\n151:14 186:23　支付\n81:17 109:13　77:10,14 79:17　明确地\n66:4,4\n202:5,7　109:13 110:25　80:2,14 84:24　170:9\n一对\n196:8　195:1,5　86:11 87:8 110:3　计划\n117:16,19\nPangu（盘古）\n86:14,14,16　PD\n20:19　113:1 119:12　118:22 119:14\n86:24　PDF\n20:19 28:23　139:7 147:17　124:5 183:18\n文书工作\n60:12　172:8 214:12　150:23 151:1　已计划\n119:3\n60:14 61:22,23　215:1　152:8,17,23,25　规划\n115:18\n164:21 170:21　Pearl\n2:22　153:20 154:4　计划\n26:14 27:4\n段落\n168:2　处罚\n211:12　155:18,21 157:12　玩\n153:14\n168:11　214:16 215:5　160:21 192:23　请\n7:21 8:18\n父母\n100:16　待决\n126:20　206:11　8:21 9:6,15 10:1,8\n部分\n36:19 80:13　130:16　个人的\n38:20　11:14 12:2,11\n93:7 101:22　人们\n34:12　155:6 193:17　13:6 20:4,25 26:2\n102:11 119:2　85:17 120:18　个人的\n65:15　28:23 32:25 38:12\n121:3,8 124:22　121:14,18 152:12　90:9 92:11 133:18　39:17 40:19 41:21\n160:19,19 206:12　152:14 154:7,18　133:23 143:25　44:5,20 54:5,8\n特定的\n63:13　157:15,17 202:24　149:8,11 150:9　55:19 56:21 57:14\n111:18 165:7　百分比\n18:18　156:13 191:24　59:15 66:19 67:15\n180:3　65:22 146:11,16　197:3 206:24　70:13 83:13,18\n\n[请 - 提供]\n\n87:24 88:7 97:25　更喜欢\n12:13 39:21　相当\n45:15 66:11　50:19,22 51:10,18\n\n98:12 99:15　53:19　101:6 152:14　146:17 154:19\n103:24 119:24　偏好\n12:22　203:19　档案\n201:12\n120:4 125:4 140:8　准备\n162:12 163:1　胜诉\n179:4　利润\n118:15,19\n143:18 144:9,10　准备工作\n16:3　183:11 184:4　118:23 119:14\n151:22 152:20　准备\n15:11,12　先前的\n153:5　129:13,21,22\n163:17 167:11　15:20 16:10,23　154:7,12,20,25　利润\n14:19,19\n187:23 193:16　17:2,11,15,20 18:6　156:20　项目\n118:9,21\n200:14 205:20　192:12　先前\n156:9　174:25 175:3,9,9\n207:15,25　已准备\n15:14　先前\n20:8 24:20　179:25 181:4\n加\n154:11　44:3 61:5 62:24　44:25 153:17,18　182:6,12 183:15\nPodhaskie\n148:24　准备\n15:25　155:6　184:5\n149:2,17,20 150:1　已准备\n144:24　私人的\n164:17　项目\n118:4,7\n要点\n24:14 26:16　145:20　特权\n146:1　118:23,23 174:21\n32:6 37:1 44:20　目前的\n3:19 42:12　受特权保护的\n16:20　181:3,8\n87:22 124:23　158:10 171:17　可能\n148:7　承诺\n196:22\n129:4 180:19　186:2　192:17 195:23　及时地\n207:15\n183:11 189:14　提出\n158:4　问题\n12:14　发音\n17:23\n208:24　总统\n42:22,25　32:2,7 40:1 54:9　17:24 39:23 54:12\n指出\n131:21　45:24 46:12 47:20　62:21 112:5 126:2　适当的\n125:20\n居住\n43:7　49:4 51:24 52:14　153:24 166:15　165:24\n部分\n186:13　54:19 58:6 65:21　173:5,6　适当地\n164:11\n职位\n131:18　67:25 68:16,18,23　程序\n5:14　164:12\n152:13 156:17　90:17 91:15,23　214:19,20　财产\n183:15\n158:2,3　92:9,16 93:5 95:6　继续进行\n10:15　预期的\n职位\n46:3　97:19 98:2,22　11:11 20:3,13　122:23 174:25\n50:24　99:11 104:12　21:4 174:14　175:2\n占有\n131:4　105:7 110:18　程序\n11:4　protonmail.com\n131:10 132:15,19　134:18 136:4　14:17 156:20　214:2\n可能性\n102:19　137:9 141:24　196:6　自豪\n50:8\n可能的\n36:13　142:5,9 148:24　诉讼程序\n9:1　提供\n13:19\n37:24 41:15 96:22　151:10 152:11　9:11　134:21 135:2,9\n139:16 191:12　155:8 159:12　收益\n129:2　已提供\n114:17\n194:5 204:13　164:6 165:11,15　过程\n99:17　136:17 156:9\n潜在的\n179:24　166:3 174:17,18　101:22 106:13　214:19 215:8\n权力\n165:15　175:5 178:3,22　154:25　服务提供商\n154:3\n权力\n165:10　180:5 181:16　制作\n186:10　提供\n60:15\n精确的\n14:2 70:6　195:6,20　207:15　61:14\n104:4 158:25　紧迫的\n30:25　专业的\n46:14　提供\n99:12\n186:7　假装\n101:25　46:16 47:14,15,22　169:11\n197:22　49:8,9,13,20,25\n\nCase 22-50073 Doc 440-26 Filed 05/25/22 Entered 05/26/22 15:30:37 Page 266\n\n共 280 页\n\n70:10 75:22 76:9 76:12,25 77:9,13 77:17,22 78:12　问题　11:12,12 12:3,5,11,13 14:12 16:16,19,21 20:4\n\n79:14,17 80:17,21 81:4,7,10,13,19 86:21 89:14 90:19\n\n92:3 94:9 95:23　30:20 31:1,12,13　165:2,18 166:2\n\n96:9 97:14 98:15　31:16 32:9,12　169:5,9,13,21\n99:4 100:15　33:10,11 34:11　170:10,11 173:9\n104:17 106:2,10　35:12,13,19 36:21　174:13 177:9,13\n106:21 107:14,16　37:20 40:8,16,20　179:18 180:18\n107:19,24 109:23　41:22 42:4,10　183:14 188:20\n110:10 113:10,12　43:21 45:4,6,20　191:14,25 195:20\n113:23 114:14　47:6,18,19 48:6　199:25 200:1,23\n115:2,17,17,22　49:2,3,7,15,17　201:3 202:8 204:4\n116:6,18 117:7,13　50:18,20 51:7,22　204:6 206:16\n134:6,22 135:1,8　52:6,9,13,19,20,25　207:23 208:1,17\n135:18 136:2,3　54:4,8,18 56:25　问题\n6:1\n137:4,13 138:21　59:14,18,20 62:12　13:15 26:16,18,25\n139:11 142:15　63:6,15,18,22　27:7 37:3,7 63:1,8\n143:1,4 144:2　64:16 66:6,15　63:16 67:10 87:17\n147:18 148:3,5,10　67:9,16,24 68:15　128:4 129:1\n148:19 157:8　71:11,22 74:9,9,11　130:17 153:15\n159:3,7,10,22　74:14,15,17,20,23　180:17 205:24\n161:2 163:12　75:8,9 76:20,22,24　208:22,25 209:4\n164:18 165:21　77:7,8,16,17 78:5　快速的\n166:20\n170:18 172:7,12　78:9,10,13 79:5,6　相当\n31:15 134:23\n175:12,17 177:18　79:9,12 80:9,19　170:5 199:5\n178:2,6,15,20,23　81:13 82:16 84:24　引述\n162:5,5\n179:16 180:7,20　85:20 88:14,15,22　R\n182:19 183:1,5　90:22 96:8,11　R\n116:22 147:15,16\n187:5 189:20　97:25 98:7,25　216:3,3\n191:3,8 194:16,16　102:15 103:25　R&S\n215:1,9\n195:24,25 199:4,8　109:10 116:17　提出\n8:20 9:5,15\n199:11,12,15,17　119:21 121:2,6　提出\n90:23\n199:22 200:8　122:10 123:13　范围\n104:5 108:8\n201:7,12 206:11　125:3,19,21　比率\n186:24 187:3\n206:21　126:20,24 128:5　187:7,11,13\n质量\n154:9　130:4 131:6,12\n\n21:4,9 22:5,6 23:10,16 26:22 27:3 29:7,9 30:16 144:12 145:3,25 147:9,25 150:8 153:21 154:5,20 155:11 156:25 158:25 159:20 161:12 162:21\n\n[公众的 - 阅读]\n\n公众的　57:20　拉取　192:14 201:23　pullcom.com　3:13\n\n已拉取　32:21　Pullman　3:10 8:5　购买　105:2,6 105:11,15,18,25 106:6,23 107:15 197:9 198:8,25 199:8 200:4,9,25 201:1,7,11,24,25 202:18 203:11 204:17,18\n\n已购买　100:25 101:4 110:10 181:13 198:9 199:9 201:22　购买行为　203:8　目的　38:7 115:15 116:5 118:1 164:25　故意地　75:23\n\n164:22\n\n212:18　放置　21:4 29:8 44:10 84:6,11 126:10,13 166:19 175:19 209:23,23\n\n推定的　42:3\n\nQ\n\nQiang　17:4 24:24 30:8 31:25 32:5 34:14 38:21 39:12 39:21 40:3,8,17,24 41:6 45:9 46:2 48:9 53:20 55:3 68:10,24 69:10,18\n\n目的　18:19 109:5 117:11 156:21 158:10　根据　5:12\n\n189:16\n\n阅读　21:8 23:18 47:17 48:1 61:16\n\n132:25 133:8,9 140:4 143:15,22\n\n争吵　96:6\n\n[阅读 - 重新诉讼]\n\n64:14 66:1 68:4　回忆\n13:25 14:15　休庭\n66:24　重新表述\n80:19\n\n75:1 84:3,17,19　14:16 19:2 25:22　112:15 126:1,6　刷新\n21:3 35:25\n93:4 144:18 145:9　25:23 32:18 33:25　174:5　36:20,22 169:1\n146:8 157:23　34:23,24 35:1　背诵\n95:3 96:10　刷新\n169:14\n168:24 170:14　40:23 41:5,10,12　认识\n43:16　拒绝\n106:5\n171:17 203:4,7,14　44:3,4,16 45:12,13　承认\n43:22　178:17,20,22\n203:15 205:14,17　45:16,23 59:2,4,6　回想\n14:2　关于\n74:24\n211:5　59:8 60:22,22　回忆\n21:3　79:14 80:10\n阅读\n13:4,9　61:2,9 64:19,20,22　35:25 64:17 151:5　关于\n30:6\n31:14 36:22 37:18　65:5,7,8 67:8 68:5　151:6 169:2,14　51:4 180:25\n39:17 85:2,4　69:20,23,24 70:1　187:18　关于\n79:7\n146:15 214:23　70:18 71:1,6 73:9　重新开庭\n112:7　141:4\n215:9　80:24 82:7,9,11,12　记录\n7:6,22　团\n195:24\n阅读\n22:5 33:10　82:17,18,21 83:2,8　29:18,19 66:11,22　登记\n4:19\n真实的\n47:15 51:9,13　87:10,11,17 90:13　67:1 112:13,17　43:24 56:10\n51:17 86:5 114:10　96:3,13,18,21,23　116:10 126:4,8,11　定期的\n151:15,16\n115:20 117:21,24　97:1,5,5,9,11,16　126:14 157:23　201:8\n117:24 118:9,11　97:17 100:9 103:8　158:6 165:18　定期地\n150:25\n166:20 180:4　104:7,8,11,18　166:10 170:25,25　驳回\n106:10,11\n181:4 182:6　105:12,16,19,23　174:3,7 192:23　194:17,19\n183:15,19 184:4　106:9,25 110:23　200:22 209:5　驳回\n178:23\n194:24　115:5,10 117:8　已记录\n7:8 86:1　相关的\n39:8,10\n真正地\n26:6 65:12　127:25 134:11,12　189:8 190:12,13　80:22 114:10\n80:14 97:1 103:12　134:13 139:15,17　190:18,21　118:11 130:7\n121:10 142:1　140:19,20 141:2　记录员\n85:3　146:18 194:3\n195:1 197:19　145:23,24 147:10　记录\n23:25　212:21\n200:2,2　147:12,13 149:18　189:11 207:16　涉及\n26:3\n房地产经纪人\n51:13,14　149:19,23,24　招募　关系\n18:16\n理由\n13:18,20　166:11,13,16　152:11　42:2 45:1 129:20\n24:25 39:22 50:17　169:10 171:11,21　提及\n18:20 22:20　175:7\n53:9 75:14 76:11　171:23,24 172:1　30:7 38:21 39:17　相对地\n36:8\n84:12 87:21 97:15　178:10 186:3,6　52:10 53:20 84:25　亲属\n85:16\n119:21 125:12　187:9,12 191:11　引用\n44:25　获释\n214:21\n153:7 154:21　191:13,19 193:10　155:2,18　相关性\n38:5\n172:22 173:12,14　194:5,12 206:10　被引用\n214:6　41:22 42:6,11\n175:20 181:15　概述\n188:23　被提及\n24:25　116:2\n195:12 216:6,9,12　收据\n99:22　207:17　相关性\n129:5\n216:15,18,21　收到\n100:1,8　提及\n22:4　相关的\n65:18\n理由\n71:17　148:6,15,16　38:16 39:1 85:5　66:4,4\n125:17 172:25　已收到\n100:5　90:3,4　重新诉讼\n38:7\n173:1\n\n[依赖 - 权利]\n\n依赖\n54:15　替换\n148:23　请求\n46:5,10　恢复\n24:4,5\n\n仍然\n165:9　149:6　90:19 92:3 100:15　审查\n15:6,10,16\n仍然\n174:11　答复\n32:12　104:17 134:8　15:18 99:16\n记得\n14:1　33:20 183:14　173:21 177:11,12　100:11 101:21,24\n18:3 28:12 30:20　185:20 188:20　177:14,17 178:5　195:10 196:10\n35:9 36:7,11,15　答复\n123:18 169:6　192:14 201:23　199:1 200:6,10\n37:19 61:18 63:15　195:19　212:19 215:1,9,10　201:5 212:19\n63:20 79:25 85:25　报告\n101:15　请求\n92:18　214:8,10,13 215:2\n98:17 105:14　106:10 107:16　119:13 190:7　复兴\n5:6 166:13\n109:20 138:17,22　151:19 168:18　请求\n131:3　166:14 167:16\n155:1 166:20　172:24 194:16　194:1,11,12　168:19 173:8\n169:9 171:10　已报告\n1:25　要求\n107:23　倒带\n87:13\n176:15,19 186:25　报告员\n7:19 8:18　保留\n20:10　节奏\n151:20\n187:1,2,15 191:15　8:20 9:5,15,25　158:7　权利\n8:20 9:5,15\n192:17,18 196:13　10:7,13 11:22　保留\n13:1　18:13 20:10 21:14\n提醒\n162:3　76:18 210:2,5　居住\n71:13,15　21:15 22:16 23:1\n166:17　212:6　72:2,5,8 73:1　23:6 24:16 30:3\n提醒\n36:13　报告\n192:9,13　居住\n72:24　31:13 33:24 36:13\n159:14　代表\n7:25　住所\n71:18　36:15,18 39:15\n提醒\n67:22　14:9 172:11,19　206:9,25　40:6,7 42:24\n提醒\n71:10　陈述　已解决\n149:11　48:15,17 51:4,14\n远程的\n1:14　25:4　尊重\n129:3　53:2,23,25 54:1\n远程地\n11:21　代表　156:14,20 182:24　56:1,4,18 57:1,15\n146:1　1:16 9:19 15:3　182:24 190:11　59:23 60:25 61:7\n呈现\n211:9　44:24 90:9　201:6　61:15,24 62:20\n租金\n161:20　被代表　受尊重的\n165:16　64:5 65:18 66:7\n206:21　156:18 172:7　答复\n47:5　69:4,15 73:20\n已租用\n111:12　代表\n8:3,5　其余部分\n151:13　75:20 76:3,7,12\n重新开庭\n158:24　8:8,10,12　洗手间\n66:18　79:12,23 82:13\n已偿还\n158:18,21　代表\n26:8　结果\n181:23　88:2 89:5,16 91:6\n163:15 184:11　172:9　212:22　91:25 92:11,20\n偿还\n206:1　请求\n45:11　保留\n138:25　94:4,6,10,21 98:8\n重复\n16:16 49:23　58:23 99:5 106:5　147:18 209:11　98:19 101:6,15\n52:18 54:3,8　111:22 131:9　返回\n25:25　102:4,17 103:10\n92:15 97:25 131:8　132:18,23 133:3　214:17 215:6　106:19 108:1,20\n143:17 147:4　133:15,20 134:4　已返回\n149:12　110:8 111:1,23\n152:20　134:14 156:21　返回\n123:13　116:24 117:9\n重复\n156:19　186:9,9,16 192:16　回报\n123:15　119:16 121:21\n改述\n12:12　195:22 207:12,12　收入\n118:20　124:6 125:15\n191:25　207:14　123:23 124:7,7　127:11,22 128:2\n129:16 130:13\n\n[权利 - 见]\n\n135:24 136:20　65:11,18 66:10　s\n2:5 4:9 5:4 18:15　192:23 196:22\n137:2 141:6,25　67:14 71:16,23　34:1 38:14,23　207:1,12\n142:7 145:11　90:2,12,22 92:13　81:6 115:15 125:7　屏幕\n172:22\n148:13,22,25　94:17 95:18　147:15,16 148:25　209:24\n149:4,13,14,15　103:23 111:15,20　171:25 185:4　滚动\n88:7\n151:18 154:9,16　111:22 112:10　216:3　座位\n116:13\n155:10 158:7　116:1,10 119:24　保险箱\n108:25 141:8　第二\n19:11,19\n159:17 160:19　121:5 122:9,17　安全\n125:12　19:25 20:1 50:7\n162:2,18 163:3　123:4 124:19　153:7 196:1　55:3 70:13 84:5\n167:10,22 171:16　125:24 126:12,18　Saks\n197:21　119:25 151:23\n172:2 173:16　126:23 128:3,21　198:16,19　166:18 176:22\n177:2,20 179:16　129:11,24 130:14　Sarnoff（萨尔诺夫）\n2:15 8:13　188:21 207:25\n179:17 181:9,17　131:1 140:6,8　8:13　秒\n132:8\n181:19,25 183:2,3　143:12 150:7,16　已保存\n44:7 205:23　138:20 163:17\n183:18,21 189:17　153:11,14 156:8　看见\n23:15 50:18　205:20\n190:19 194:20　157:19 158:12　140:23 145:16,21　秘密\n132:17\n197:13,14 198:12　159:18 161:4,8　199:6　秘书\n42:23,25\n200:10 202:20　165:5,17 166:9　说\n54:13 65:25　45:25 46:13 47:20\n203:16 204:15　170:2,11 186:16　92:12 94:13 95:1　49:4 97:20 98:2\n207:20 208:21　187:23 188:13　称\n20:1,19 51:8　110:19 134:18\n209:2 210:1　190:8 191:23　56:13,17 58:5　142:6 166:4\n权利\n127:2　193:3 203:25　84:5 89:9 107:8　担保\n3:10\n风险\n158:4 175:20　204:2 207:7,20,22　167:23,23,24　108:25\n角色\n46:12 68:14　209:21,23 210:2,4　168:2,12 172:22　证券\n198:6\n68:16,22 70:17　210:6　197:24　安全\n71:16\n74:20 77:18,23　Rosen's（罗森的）\n17:22　日程\n214:10　124:19 150:9\n78:1,12,15 79:2,3　大致\n210:5　日程\n191:21　157:20,23 158:4\n90:15 97:19,21　Rudnick（鲁德尼克）\n2:4 8:7,10　192:5　185:9 195:23\n98:4,6,21 180:15　18:6　计划\n124:23　196:2\n180:17　规则\n5:13 212:18　范围\n20:12 41:25　见\n19:15 20:15,18\n角色\n47:19 142:15　规则\n5:14 164:5　65:22 130:18　20:19 21:18 22:1\n149:3　164:14 215:8　Scott（斯科特）\n2:21 8:2　22:11 23:10,13\n房间\n3:6　运行\n46:6 195:15　12:24 13:5 17:22　26:13 28:20 29:15\nRosen（罗森）\n2:21 8:1,2　运行中\n79:17,20　17:25 42:16 65:2　32:1 36:20 41:2\n12:20,25 13:3,7　80:14 97:14　65:14 67:7 71:22　42:11 57:6,10,20\n16:11 17:25 19:21　Russo（鲁索）\n3:19 8:11,11　73:4 87:2 90:6　57:23 58:13 71:7\n19:23 20:3,10　19:14　125:1 126:10,18　76:5 83:10 88:14\n26:1,13,25 37:1　130:25 145:25　89:1 114:21\n38:3 41:19 42:9　150:12 156:16　122:20 136:7\n42:17 44:19 45:3　157:25 161:6　148:7 149:10\n\n[见 - 分类]\n\n167:15 168:6　七\n5:15 35:8　185:23,24 186:2　185:3,7 195:23\n\n196:13 197:7　46:23 47:8　188:10,11 189:15　199:25 200:13\n198:3,6,7 204:16　第七\n85:11　189:16　208:17\n205:6　Shea（谢伊）\n2:21 8:2　签署\n12:21 13:4　姐妹\n84:10\n看见\n169:13　Sherry（谢里）\n72:21　13:8 64:12,24　坐\n19:10\n已见\n41:6 145:23　鞋\n196:8,14　171:10　六\n47:1,3,4 73:21\n184:15　198:19 201:7　Silverberg（西尔弗伯格）\n2:5 8:9　73:25 77:20,24\n看见\n197:21 201:2　商店\n196:21 197:6　8:9　78:22 88:8,14\n发送\n141:4 154:22　199:7 201:9,9　同样地\n50:10　173:7,17\n195:16 201:10　购物\n199:6,24　简单\n49:16　六十\n74:3,8\n发送\n202:10　203:16　155:11　尺寸\n130:11\n意义\n32:5 70:7　商店\n196:19,20　仅仅\n26:16　技能\n154:18\n120:13 202:2　197:6,7 199:4,22　单一\n63:18　缓慢\n19:13\n敏感\n128:25　201:8　105:14　小\n22:22 88:8\n130:8　短\n66:24 125:25　先生\n12:7,17 13:20　195:21 196:4\n敏感性\n156:10　126:6 134:23　14:7 16:15 20:19　社会\n141:5\n已发送\n21:24　136:4 138:4,8　21:14 22:12 25:11　招揽\n137:16\n判决\n51:7 58:4　173:21 174:5　27:13,23 32:5,12　Solutions（解决方案）\n7:18,20\n58:13 61:16 62:23　速记\n212:5　33:20 36:3 37:24　209:11 214:7\n84:17　显示\n19:5 21:7　38:12,16,24 39:15　某人\n113:25\n句子\n47:17　26:2 28:13 43:3　39:20 40:7,11　155:22\n单独\n202:3　已显示\n47:6　43:11,20 45:20　儿子\n39:13,18 40:6\n九月\n22:7　Shulman（舒尔曼）\n170:17　46:17 47:25 49:11　74:15 76:22 77:1\n认真地\n174:23　170:24 171:18,22　50:4 51:4 52:6　77:5 84:8 85:11\n送达\n51:25 52:15　171:24 172:9,11　56:3,5 61:8 62:12　96:4 106:16,23\n54:21 58:8 69:11　172:18　63:16 64:8,22　177:22 180:11\n88:16 119:8　关闭\n124:21　67:21 69:3,16　199:20\n已送达\n68:1,19,24　sic\n61:18 103:6　71:3 72:10,22　儿子的\n89:21 107:10\n95:6　一方\n183:8　76:4 78:5,6 80:19　抱歉\n15:21 16:15\n送达\n93:18　签名\n92:21 185:21　82:11 83:22 84:22　19:12 22:25 23:8\n95:12 120:24　214:16 215:5　88:2 91:6 92:1,24　44:6 45:19 46:20\n124:8　签字\n56:1,25　93:12 97:24 100:2　52:10,11 56:3\n服务\n120:9　57:21 167:19　102:15 103:21　57:13 70:13 91:5\n148:12　213:3 214:21,23　104:7 108:8,24,24　97:24 98:6 104:2\n送达\n91:13 95:9　214:23 215:9　111:24 123:10　121:9 144:22\n设定\n113:21,22　已签署\n57:7 59:1　124:13 138:19　145:2 147:23\n114:4,5,7 117:15　61:17,25 62:1,3,6　151:9 153:21　152:22 153:23\n170:15 195:17　62:8,17,18,19 63:9　156:3 164:12　167:2,10 171:5\n212:11　63:13,24 64:1,3,9　166:17 167:3　184:22 200:17\n设定\n128:4,6　64:20 66:9 67:6　169:5,21 170:12　分类\n114:9 141:12\n67:23 91:12 171:8　179:13 183:14　202:19\n\n109:4,11,13,18,21 109:22,25 110:7 110:14,17,20,25 111:11,17 113:21 114:12,15,23 115:8,12,14,16\n\n176:23 177:7,14 177:18 178:1,3 180:5 184:10 185:3 186:9,14\n\n声音 18:13 33:24 声音 11:10 18:4 18:21,24 21:5 22:8 23:11,20,24 23:25 24:2,3,12,13 24:14,18,21,23\n\n18:15,16,17,18,20\n\n25:6,16,18 27:6,10 27:15 28:9 30:8 32:10,13,15,19 33:12,18,20,25 34:1,3,4,7,9,9,13 34:16,22,25 35:14 35:20 36:2,24 37:21 38:1,18\n\n40:9,18,22 41:4,17 42:2,5,21 43:25 44:15,17,21,25\n\n种类 89:25\n\n[种类 - 开始]\n\n149:4 209:1\n\n33:17 204:19 来源 115:7 118:17,18,20 119:2 123:14,17 123:20 124:9 159:1,5 160:24\n\n162:10,23 说话 13:6 54:11 54:15 70:10 126:16 139:18 140:5 151:5,7\n\n155:5\n\n209:20\n\n春季 2:21 4:20 5:3,11 7:10 8:3 15:3,20 16:9,22 17:2,4,10 18:9,11\n\n花费 17:6 173:18 说过 135:18,21 已说 115:3,6 139:13 140:14 180:12 191:16\n\n45:7,17,21,25 46:6\n\n46:13 47:10,21\n49:5,19 50:24\n51:24 52:14 54:20\n58:6,21,22,23\n59:21 65:21 67:25\n68:10,11,16,23\n69:2,8,9,13,14,18\n70:16 71:4,12\n72:1,8 73:22,24\n74:21,24 77:18,21\n77:25 78:12,19\n79:7,15,18 80:5,11\n80:12,13,18,22\n81:3,6 86:22 90:4\n\n90:9,18 91:16,17 91:18,24 92:9,16 93:6 95:4,24 97:2 97:20 98:3,23 99:11 100:16\n\n102:7,23,25 103:4 103:7,9 104:6,10 104:13,14,17,22 104:24 105:8 107:15,18 108:3\n\n114:12,15,23　195:4,7,15,22\n\n115:8,12,14,16　198:22,24 199:14\n116:5,8 117:6,10　201:10,23 202:7\n118:7,14 119:4,13　202:10 206:8,13\n119:13,18,23　206:22 207:14\n120:12,20,23,24　208:5,8 209:9\n121:1,4,15 122:1,7　Spring's（斯普林的）\n102:22\n122:13,20,21　121:19 124:21\n123:8,13 124:11　125:14,22 126:25\n125:7 126:21　128:23 129:17\n127:7,8,9,17　190:23\n128:12,19,20　广场\n2:6,7,16,17\n129:14 130:11,15　3:11\n131:3,9 132:18,21　正好\n65:20\n132:22,23 133:7　Srosen\n2:24\n133:16 134:19　ss\n211:1 212:1\n135:2,9 136:1,17　SSarnoff\n2:19\n137:7,10 140:25　印章\n167:23\n141:24 148:6,12　站\n11:8 45:3\n148:15,18 150:2,6　132:3\n150:20 151:11,25　站立\n132:1,9,11\n152:19,24 153:1　132:15\n153:10 156:1,6,18　开始\n12:3,20 23:25\n157:3,22 158:16　29:10,23 30:10,17\n158:17,20 159:13　30:19 31:1,14,17\n160:21,24 163:21　32:10 71:4 78:6\n164:10,14 165:16　118:22 173:18\n165:22 166:4,5,14　174:20\n168:9 169:3,3,15　已开始\n10:22\n169:16,23,25　24:11,17 28:8\n170:14,20 171:14　30:13 31:18,19,19\n172:10 173:1,4　31:20 32:13 33:18\n174:16 175:3,13　34:4 36:2,24\n\n187:4 188:25 190:14,18 191:10\n\n192:3,11,15\n\n193:18 194:2,7,8\n\n37:22 38:1 40:9 40:18,22 41:3,17 42:5,20 69:8,9,14 71:12,25 72:7\n\n[开始 - 谈话]\n\n73:21,24 77:21,24　Stuart（斯图尔特）\n2:15 8:13　补充　t\n\n78:23 81:3 87:6　东西\n141:10,18　207:12 209:14　t\n4:9 147:15,16\n117:18,24　194:23 195:5　用品\n208:12　216:3,3\n开始\n31:23　202:3　支持\n82:3　尾部\n74:9\n32:3 42:3 85:5　主题\n88:12　89:16,21,25 91:19　采取\n23:9 33:7\n州\n3:11 7:21　113:20 133:17,20　92:2 93:18,23　35:2,8 55:9 58:21\n9:25 10:5,12 57:8　134:5 146:11　94:4,15 118:4,6　66:16,19 69:10\n167:16 168:22　163:20 176:15　119:8,13 127:9　84:19 91:18 96:1\n211:1 212:1,6　已提交\n43:19　128:16 147:24　96:4 98:16 99:5,6\n214:9,12　从属　182:22　100:11,16 102:2\n已陈述\n68:18 98:15　130:21　获支持\n118:8　108:10,10 109:6\n陈述\n157:22　被传唤　支持\n114:3　111:15,20 112:4\n191:22 192:5　129:16　假定\n50:20　125:25 139:2\n州\n1:1 3:4,4　订阅\n211:11　应当\n92:8　141:17 143:5\n7:12 25:10,12,15　实质\n211:8　118:21 124:6　148:6,11,16 158:7\n25:19,24 27:21　证实　130:18　159:11 160:1,4,10\n28:5 91:13 115:19　186:12　最高\n57:8　160:13,18 161:2\n117:13 125:23　成功\n175:4　确定\n12:23 21:23　161:13,19,22,23\n停留\n27:12 39:21　成功\n206:5　22:15 24:10 26:5　162:4,17,22\n51:3 66:7 87:3　成功的\n174:15　42:24 54:9 62:15　173:22,25 180:9\n102:1 207:2　175:8,17,22 176:3　63:18 90:21,23　181:23,23 186:17\n已停留\n73:3,7　176:5　97:21 99:5 102:18　195:12 197:11\n停留\n27:12　成功地　103:15 104:1,1　207:23\n停留\n206:9　120:25　106:12 112:2　已采取\n4:13 7:10\n速记术\n212:14　被起诉\n58:9　120:2,5 131:15　66:24 98:25\n坚持\n40:3 203:21　充分\n158:10　140:10 142:4　112:15 126:6\n约定\n214:20　建议\n31:3 112:7　143:16 167:6　127:2 174:5\n约定\n12:21　163:6　172:4,15 182:2　186:14 212:10\n12:25　建议\n32:7　188:2,23 192:1　采取\n112:7\n停止\n12:4 66:3　33:22 60:24 61:3　203:19 205:10,10　才能\n154:9\n商店\n202:9,10　155:12 164:24　幸存者\n48:12　谈话\n69:21 70:1,2,2\n商店\n197:6　197:17　Suzanne（苏珊）\n1:25 7:19　80:8 99:7 131:22\n战略性\n14:18,19　诉讼\n194:9 197:21　112:6 212:5 213:4　140:1 151:20\n街道\n2:12,22 3:6　197:25　宣誓\n8:18　176:21\n7:3 184:20 185:3　Sunny（桑尼）\n3:17 8:23　已宣誓\n62:7 65:17　谈过\n69:24 70:8\n190:3　10:6 40:15 52:8　91:12　70:9 126:18\n严格地\n38:7　超级\n12:1,9 13:21　已宣誓\n9:1,11,21　176:18 195:9\n强烈地\n129:8　43:13　57:21 60:15 61:14　谈话\n22:18,21\n156:22　监督　212:9　32:24 65:23 71:19\n结构\n37:9　212:15　系统\n10:12　71:20 72:5,7 77:1\n117:16　84:15,25 85:12\n\n[谈话 - 时间]\n\n91:1,3,7 92:5　86:4,6 131:14　185:10 188:14　想法\n107:1\n\n100:2 125:15　146:19　190:9 201:17　受到威胁\n84:11\n136:19 177:3　条款\n144:5,11,16　205:22 209:3　86:2\n180:1,2 181:4　186:20 189:17　感谢\n163:19　三\n4:22,24\n182:9 205:3,4　191:1　166:25　21:14 29:20 30:2\n207:19　可怕\n85:16　其\n212:23　30:2 36:6,9,14\n任务\n36:5 45:11　测试\n48:15 171:5　其上\n211:10　43:4,10 48:17\n46:9 58:23　作证\n9:22　事情\n55:21 84:4　49:1,10 51:5\n任务\n45:14　30:23 40:5 48:13　95:14 105:14　56:22 57:1,13,14\n税款\n168:17　50:11 89:12 97:13　108:25 141:12　65:7,17 84:3,18\n172:23　104:20 120:16　182:18　127:15 168:2\n团队\n157:23　161:8 181:10　事情\n11:20 47:8　170:17 184:5\n174:19　183:20 185:2　66:17 85:16 89:25　紧\n19:11\n技术上\n24:2　204:2　92:22 97:7 99:9　Tim（蒂姆）\n18:1,2\n170:20　作证\n44:24 48:24　99:13 107:22,23　时间\n11:23 17:6,8\n电话\n16:9,22　80:11 94:19 95:15　127:15,20 136:20　24:4,6,23 25:2,5\n告诉\n29:5 31:18　191:24　182:1 194:9 195:1　25:13,16,18,25\n35:6 43:16 46:4,8　作证\n48:7　198:25 199:19,21　27:20 28:4 34:11\n47:2 58:2,15　61:23 64:5 75:18　200:4　34:22,25 35:4\n59:25 73:13 74:6　90:8 159:13　认为\n13:18,20　37:22 38:18 40:17\n81:18,21,23 83:21　证词\n4:12　24:9 34:8 41:21　40:24 41:3,9,17\n86:22 93:10 94:3　13:19 15:8 26:12　50:11 58:25 62:14　42:5 44:8 49:18\n97:10 99:15 109:3　29:19 36:5,12　66:10,16 86:3　54:8 62:13,15,17\n109:25 110:5　37:23 48:2,8,15,16　93:8 94:12 100:21　62:18 63:23 64:9\n113:25 117:9　51:2,2 60:15　117:4 119:15　66:23 67:2,15\n125:13 128:18　61:14 63:3 64:7　129:6 140:15,18　69:4,18 80:24\n134:12 138:2　75:25 76:3 94:12　150:11 156:11　83:6 84:19 94:24\n144:2 159:25　94:15,19 96:20　157:24 160:14　96:4,12,17,20 97:6\n160:2 175:21　106:14 132:24　166:19 167:1,24　98:10,14,18\n184:1,1,2 198:17　159:15,19 161:5,7　181:25 182:10　103:18 104:8\n199:1　188:4 209:7　183:10,23 190:16　106:14,18 112:14\n告诉\n19:14　212:16　194:25 200:1　112:18 123:8\n194:24　感谢\n8:17 10:13　201:13 203:4　124:13 126:5,9\n十\n17:8,9 22:4　10:14 11:18 12:8　205:24　127:24 134:23\n23:9 33:8 66:19　12:18 16:7 40:2,4　思考\n75:13　136:4 138:4,4,8,12\n117:3 163:17　55:7 67:17 71:8　三十\n21:11,14,16　139:4 140:8,17\n167:24 185:16,18　71:23 78:8 84:21　21:20 22:4,12　143:15 144:14\n提出\n160:21　84:23 88:6 111:23　23:2,6,9 33:1,7　145:16 148:22\n提出\n191:5　113:19 126:19　132:8 205:19　156:3 162:9,23,25\n期限\n81:8,14　129:11 156:15　认为\n128:3　163:3,13 166:5\n84:13 85:19,22,24　167:7 173:20　171:4　167:24 168:16\n\n案件 22-50073　文件 440-26　提交日期 05/25/22　录入日期 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 274 页\n\n已翻译 11:13\n\n75:10,11 77:13\n\n共 280 页\n\n告诉 35:18,19 43:8\n\n169:15,23,24\n\n[时间 - 转向]\n\n173:17,18 174:4,8　60:17 61:12 63:8　11:14 12:14 65:6　78:3,10 79:13,13\n\n176:16,18 195:2　63:9,10 65:23　83:6 89:6　79:15 80:11,16,18\n203:10 205:23　79:24 87:5,7 89:3　翻译\n31:16　80:20 81:2,5,8,14\n209:3 212:11　91:12 110:24　89:4,24 94:5　85:22,23 89:11\n214:10,18,24　133:19,22 135:15　翻译员\n88:24　91:12 97:14 108:6\n215:7　137:22,24,24　92:23 93:2,10,19　108:22 169:22\n次\n2:6,7,16,17　138:20 139:2　95:10,11 131:5　175:24 183:4\n26:17 66:1 82:15　145:7 148:10　200:15　193:17 211:9,13\n95:3 105:17,22　162:21 176:11,13　运输\n111:13　212:15\n138:21 139:20,22　179:14 180:6,9,11　交通运输　信托\n160:16\n139:24 140:1,18　199:18　99:10 107:13,22　受托人\n3:4 8:16\n151:3 159:14　舌头\n11:6　108:11 109:11,17　146:18 194:25\n184:6 200:8 204:2　今晚\n210:7　111:1,3　196:7\n204:4 208:4　顶部\n56:1 57:1 74:8　旅行\n25:19 26:14　真相\n50:5 80:23\n时机\n182:4　187:22　26:17 27:4 40:12　如实\n13:19\nTimothy（蒂莫西）\n18:1　主题\n44:20 87:14　111:7　31:21 59:25 61:22\n标题\n42:21 89:17　94:20 174:14　已旅行\n23:23　62:1,3,9 63:3 64:2\n93:19 95:1,2　主题\n15:6,10 20:5　24:7 27:16,17　64:6\n头衔\n44:15 45:2　20:9 26:2 37:7,8　109:7　如实地\n13:16\n49:19 65:24 95:3　38:6 41:25 65:19　旅行\n108:13,23　尝试\n11:7 12:12\n98:22 137:10　160:23,23　117:14　37:13 71:21 76:18\n142:5,7 180:16　总计\n187:16　司库\n42:23,25　87:14 98:10,14\n今天\n11:5 13:19　209:10　45:25 46:13 47:20　129:9 138:14\n15:2,7,8,12,20,25　塔\n2:6,16　49:4 97:20 98:2　150:13 169:12\n16:24 17:2 36:3　交易　103:9 104:12　试图\n26:6,9 32:7\n49:2 65:19 92:20　197:20　110:18 122:13,20　50:25 51:1 65:16\n94:15,20 109:5　已转录　128:2 134:19　70:7 92:7 93:5,8\n115:22 130:22　212:14　142:6,12 159:12　95:13 111:9 114:7\n131:21 136:19　笔录\n4:12,16　164:6 165:11,15　116:3,7 128:11\n140:13 150:2　13:4,9 20:8 21:11　166:4 180:5 195:6　135:14 136:13,13\n158:9 159:13　21:25 22:21 31:2　审判\n4:16 13:1　143:10 163:6,9\n162:13 163:1　36:22 37:18 39:17　96:20　172:15 180:3,14\n176:16 182:9　48:1 50:16 51:8　已尝试\n92:23 165:9　180:16 184:22\n209:4　76:20 85:3 93:4　尝试\n197:25　196:23 197:19\n今日的\n16:10　210:3 212:16,18　行程\n194:9 195:12　200:23\n17:11,16,20 18:7　214:6,8,10,13,13　196:3　星期二\n1:18 7:2\n18:19 116:12　214:21 215:2,2　真实\n51:3,11,23　212:10\n133:17,21 134:5　翻译\n40:19　52:15 54:20 62:6　转向\n29:3 73:10\n209:7,20　59:16 82:22 89:6　62:17,19 63:13　87:23\n89:15 92:10,19　67:24 69:1,7 75:4\n\n十二 84:2,17 二十 4:18 59:5 84:3,18 88:13 51:6 52:6 59:14 59:19 60:13 61:12 63:2,10,11 64:10 64:11,12,14,16,25\n\n40:13 49:1 50:1\n\n66:8 70:5 79:18 86:21,23 89:15,20 90:22 92:1 93:8 94:25 95:2,2,5,13 98:25 106:13 110:13 123:25 124:20 129:6 130:4 131:6\n\n132:25 136:14,16 136:19,25 143:10 146:2,9 153:21 156:17 158:1 160:12 177:4,23 179:11,13 180:14 180:16 182:1,14 186:16 188:19,23 189:13,13 190:8 192:19,24 195:3,8 196:23 197:19 200:24 201:18 202:4 207:19,22 理解\n\n31:16 36:4 39:16 58:19 68:9,13,14 78:15 79:3,20,22 92:4 113:22,25 114:22 119:8 122:25 123:22 129:18 131:17 148:14 154:17 155:9,22 159:23 161:20 162:6 163:14 171:19 180:4 199:10 205:25 206:3,7\n\n转弯 118:19\n\n[转弯 - 到访]\n\n139:24 140:1\n\n二 4:14 19:18 20:20 28:16 30:2 47:17 67:12,12 74:10 85:9 97:7 136:20 149:3 152:1,3,4,6 182:1 182:16 203:21\n\n类型 108:20\n\n171:25\n\n155:16\n\nUK（英国） 27:17 115:24 116:18 117:7 148:5 199:17,20 最终 109:23\n\nUna（尤娜） 3:18 9:8 理解 11:9 11:24 12:11,23 14:3 15:2 21:22 22:19,19 24:9 26:24 27:13,18 30:1 32:8 40:12\n\nU.S.（美国） 8:16 23:23 24:8 27:17 114:8 125:8 126:22 142:23 146:18 194:25 196:7 呃 54:2 137:19\n\n类型 99:19 111:17 通常 119:7\n\nu u 17:5 30:9 38:23 38:24 39:9,9,12 86:14 112:24 116:22 147:15\n\n157:15\n\n153:15\n\n价值\n128:5\n\n186:5\n不熟悉\n144:15　各种\n26:17\n车辆\n111:7,10\n不幸的是　车辆\n109:19\n170:6　181:12,20 182:8\n统一\n10:11\n单位\n7:8　182:25 183:1\n联合\n1:1 3:4,4　供应商\n99:22\n100:6 101:1,3\n7:12 25:10,12,15　供应商\n118:12\n25:19,24 27:21　Verdolino（韦尔多利诺）\n193:5,7\n28:5 115:19\n117:13 125:23　核实\n99:16,17\n100:13,19,25\n单位\n209:10　101:7,14,18,20\n不必要地　102:3,8,9 197:8,8\n196:24　198:9 199:8,14\n不专业\n52:11　200:10\n正在核实\n101:1\n无担保\n8:6　Veritext（威睿法律解决方案）\n7:18,20\n不愿意\n128:18　209:11 214:7,9,11\n130:11\n上传\n19:13　视频\n7:8 16:6\n\n已理解 13:10 20:14 61:6 64:21\n\n76:15 97:18 107:20 120:3 121:12 148:11 161:25 171:7 182:7 195:23\n\n201:13\n\n无证件的\n\n紧迫性 138:8 可用性 127:1\n\n大于号 202:23,24 203:1,3 203:7,8,23 204:9\n\n128:23 usdoj.gov 3:8 使用 53:19 90:3 98:11 102:22 104:14 109:1 120:2 133:11 144:8 200:15\n\n204:10\n\n181:12,20 182:8\n\n182:25 183:1\n供应商\n99:22\n100:6 101:1,3\n供应商\n118:12\nVerdolino（韦尔多利诺）\n193:5,7\n核实\n99:16,17\n100:13,19,25\n101:7,14,18,20\n102:3,8,9 197:8,8\n198:9 199:8,14\n200:10\n正在核实\n101:1\nVeritext（威睿法律解决方案）\n7:18,20\n209:11 214:7,9,11\n视频\n7:8 16:6\n视频会议\n16:9,23\n摄像师\n3:16\n7:5,18 8:17 10:14\n66:19,21,25\n112:12,16 126:3,7\n174:2,6 209:1,5\n录像\n1:14\n观点\n42:1 183:11\n虚拟地\n7:15\n视力\n14:18,20\n到访\n72:22\n\n用户 204:3,7 使用 202:22\n\n通常\n12:25\n\n模糊 165:19 价值 127:6\n\n诉 2:11\n\n204:18 205:7,8,9\n\n诉\n\n案号 22-50073　文件 440-26　提交日期 05/25/22　登记日期 05/26/22 15:30:37　第 276 页\n\n[无效 - 证人]\n\n无效\n166:7 168:17　119:22 121:3,23　190:11 197:2　去了\n30:4 144:19\n\n169:4,19 170:1　121:25 122:6,21　201:2 209:2,8　162:13\n171:15 172:23　136:18 139:13,18　211:4 212:8 214:1　诸如此类\n158:23\n173:2,13　140:14,21 149:21　214:5 216:2　无论何种\n38:5\nw　151:7,14 172:19　想要\n21:7 24:10　下落\n176:23 177:6,16　27:1 32:6 39:23　26:17 42:12\nw\n38:14 39:9,13,13\n39:14,14　177:19 178:8,15　55:21 60:18 62:14　哨子\n117:18\n等待\n12:2,4 19:9　178:17 186:1　66:2,2,7 71:17　妻子\n101:13 103:6\n43:7 78:7　187:7,10 189:1,16　84:4 86:20 88:1　103:13 104:5,9,14\n等待中\n78:8　189:20 191:6,9,16　90:21,23 106:12　201:24 202:1,24\n放弃\n13:4,8　192:13 193:20　108:24 125:3　204:9,20 205:15\n已放弃\n214:23,23　195:11 196:2　126:10 127:20　205:16,17\n放弃中\n214:20　199:19 200:4,24　129:1 150:13,18　妻子的\n201:21\n步行\n196:9　201:1,6,24 204:20　154:8 175:19　202:1\n步行\n197:20　204:21 205:11　176:21 181:15　Wilkinson（威尔金森）\n3:18 9:8\nWan（万）\n1:8 2:5 7:11　206:1,14 214:4　182:2,20 208:25　53:16\n8:8 39:18 40:6　216:1　想要\n111:7　William（威廉）\n170:16,19\n41:16,24 42:1　Wan 的\n68:20 77:1　201:14　172:3,9\n45:18,22 52:1,16　93:14 106:23　想要\n106:24　Williams（威廉斯）\n172:2,7\n52:22 53:5,7,9,13　Wang（王）\n1:17 4:13,23　197:21 198:1　172:19\n53:21 54:22 58:10　7:9 9:18 10:19　200:5,24　愿意\n82:4\n\n13:12 20:2,18　Washington（华盛顿）\n2:13　获胜\n206:4\n58:16 66:7 68:2,6　27:9 28:21 32:21　3:7　希望\n150:9\n68:11 70:16 72:3　37:17 38:11 42:8　方式\n19:24 27:1　撤回\n43:21\n72:9,17 77:4 81:4　42:20 43:10 45:6　54:12 71:22 80:7　已撤回\n17:18\n81:9,15,16,21 82:1　49:12 52:13 53:19　120:14 133:13　65:1 72:19 147:20\n82:10,19,23 83:7　55:14 56:17 67:4　138:14 143:9　177:21\n84:15 85:1,13,19　67:19 71:17,25　163:4 165:12　证人\n7:9 8:19\n85:23 86:8 87:19　73:13 80:16 83:16　200:16 204:14　9:16,24 13:3,8\n88:18 89:5,13　86:20 87:5 93:3　212:21,22　16:12,15 20:11\n90:16 91:2,14　95:13 104:4　财富\n159:22　21:1,12 23:4 26:7\n92:10 94:16 95:7　111:10 112:20,20　161:9,13,21 162:1　26:11,15 27:6\n97:22 98:4,24　120:7 121:12　162:6　28:25 29:4 32:22\n99:13 100:8,12,24　123:3 125:7　网站\n203:20　33:2,9 35:3,5 36:3\n101:4,12 102:17　126:16 131:20　周\n69:25 71:2　37:2,15 38:4,9\n103:13 104:5,9,14　139:25 143:20　139:20,22 140:16　40:21 42:5,10,16\n104:21 105:5,15　146:4 150:18　140:16,24 151:3　43:15 44:21 46:19\n105:24 106:6,15　155:11 156:25　周\n73:8　46:22,24 52:5\n106:24 107:8　158:17 163:21　Wengui（文贵）\n39:9 53:2　53:10 54:25 55:12\n108:22 110:25　171:7 174:13　53:5,12　55:12,23 56:23\n111:13 115:3,6\n118:6 119:10,20　186:20 188:17　57:5,17 58:1\n[证人 - York（约克）]\n\n59:19 65:17 66:8　78:20,20 79:21　书面\n63:2 188:9　44:16 45:12 48:17\n\n66:14 67:9,15　81:19 86:11,17　189:4 191:18　49:1,10 51:5\n73:12 74:4 83:14　89:24 92:17　212:13　61:19 64:22 65:8\n83:20 87:25 88:4　147:19 149:24　错误\n56:6 75:12　65:17 80:7 116:19\n88:9 90:4,13　150:11,13 151:21　164:22　116:21,23 117:1,3\n92:15 94:19 95:20　152:25 157:2,17　不当行为　136:3 152:1,3,4,6\n103:24 111:16,24　158:3 164:17　164:25　160:17 161:21,25\n116:4,15 122:11　195:18 202:11　x　163:2 171:11\n122:19 123:5　工作过\n19:2 21:5　x\n4:1,9 107:9,9　昨天\n145:13\n124:24 126:24　23:23 24:12,20　116:6 215:1　145:14,16,18,21\n129:9 131:16　25:16,18 26:9　146:5,9 162:8,9,22\n140:7 143:14,23　27:10,14 34:21,25　y　163:6,10\n144:13 147:10　45:9 55:3 138:25　y\n112:24,24 116:6　Yong（永）\n112:23\n148:1 154:6 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