{"id":"batch-000002","number":2,"revision":3,"date_start":"2025-05-19T06:25:17.774Z","date_end":"2025-05-20T12:31:56.276Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 002 (May 19, 2025 – May 20, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated judicial proceedings, financial disputes, and factional conflicts tied to the Guo case. Legal discussions focused on connections between bankruptcy and criminal proceedings, motion efficacy, creditor registration validity, Rule 853(n), victim statements under the CVRA, and claims of ineffective assistance of counsel. Debates over financial conduct addressed meme coin collapses, farm investment disputes, and alleged coordinated fraud. 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convicted while conditions remained virtually unchanged."},{"message_id":"q3d10c4bc527f68922cff","summary_en":"sin*** recounts plans to interview Guo in prison alongside an assistant following sentencing."},{"message_id":"q6e67bddf80345ef8b178","summary_en":"chu*** disputes the verdict by challenging others to explain why GTV was acquitted while other entities were found guilty under identical conditions."}]},{"title":"Questions Regarding Meme Coin Collapses, Fund Trajectories, and Internal Fraud Liability","description":"Participants dispute token market movements and allege that leadership figures operate as a coordinated fraudulent group.","message_ids":["q75944db48647684b811b","qb0857ee19e95518c8e17","q324324bf723373c18883"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q75944db48647684b811b","summary_en":"fku*** disputes the legitimacy of the token losses, arguing that the reported theft appears fabricated."},{"message_id":"qb0857ee19e95518c8e17","summary_en":"all*** describes the token's current 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simply."},{"message_id":"q03f6de629c96f0985d77","summary_en":"fku*** questions why participants would purchase tokens given the apparent lack of credibility."}]},{"title":"Disputes over Holding Changdao and Alliance Core Members Accountable and Legal Standing","description":"Participants discuss upcoming court proceedings involving Changdao and consider legal actions against key figures.","message_ids":["qbf8b018ffd61f3e0c6d3","qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","qe62c0dd6033b5201cc5d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qbf8b018ffd61f3e0c6d3","summary_en":"180*** asks Xinuo which upcoming case Changdao referenced online regarding a shared court appearance with Guo."},{"message_id":"qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","summary_en":"sin*** contends that the legal effort has prospects only if Qingteng is sued concurrently."},{"message_id":"qe62c0dd6033b5201cc5d","summary_en":"rui*** remarks that Xinuo finally made an agreeable comment."}]},{"title":"Analysis of Leaked Guo Audio Authenticity: AI Voice Synthesis Doubts and 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 就太过显露了，总有一天会出事。飞飞  就感觉在中间，飞飞 可是能夜闯18楼，浴室大战郭文贵  的女英雄哦，没别人了！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a75c6968a8e57f3d610","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q1a33d3abdacb16133d2d","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":405,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:08:55.146Z","text":"鸡肋郭的铁血组 最初成员，全部变伪类了吧？和胡锦涛身边的将军全部被抓，一个样啊，好笑，很好笑！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a33d3abdacb16133d2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa881648b6cfc521906f1","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":406,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:09:53.283Z","text":"描写母蚂蚁的思路就是她们如何怕吃亏，到明知吃亏而坚持，最后吃大亏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa881648b6cfc521906f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q8df4ed352cba48abf068","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":407,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:11:43.179Z","text":"鸡肋郭还有个特点，好看的，丑的，都通吃！！！有点变态！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8df4ed352cba48abf068","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q5cef385704da84cf865f","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":408,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:12:04.021Z","text":"母蚂蚁认为男人愚笨，男人见色而蠢，她们爱撒谎，算计，争宠，最后都吃了大亏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cef385704da84cf865f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q4025ccb702c7e4e2bf19","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":409,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:12:26.515Z","text":"Sara 魏丽红，真的不好看啊！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4025ccb702c7e4e2bf19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf70a985b369de1cd2808","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":410,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:13:25.883Z","text":"郭骗驾驭女人很有方法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf70a985b369de1cd2808","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe21619fe93b7d9c8cd86","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":411,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:14:52.502Z","text":"这点非常同意，这也是他成功的关键！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe21619fe93b7d9c8cd86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qcb822097634513521004","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":412,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:15:23.707Z","text":"男性蚂蚁上当受骗的特点也是类似女性，这些男受害人女性化了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb822097634513521004","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q08b4e5f586effd14bc13","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":413,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:16:57.585Z","text":"这点，没细心观察，不敢评论。但男的话，我觉得是吹牛大王很多，如 大卫，如 江虾头  都是很会说谎吹牛的人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08b4e5f586effd14bc13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q1dc3108956378f29ab0a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":414,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:17:25.392Z","text":"真正有理性，独立思考，不善奉承，也不怕吃亏的人很难被郭骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dc3108956378f29ab0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":415,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:11.574Z","text":"贝郭骗忽悠损失钱财的人应该反省自己，光埋怨郭文贵是远远不够的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb02eb6b8df636bad9d56","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":416,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:41.110Z","text":"或者说，早就离开了。我不知道你还记不记的，有个美国的数学教授，叫啥我忘了，最早2017年露脸挺郭的，和郭宝胜有点熟。东京爆协后，他公开做视频向鸡肋郭求情郭宝胜。后来他自己退出了，就是在 Sara 那个战友之声感觉到文革的气氛，他不玩了。哦，叫 石家桩 。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb02eb6b8df636bad9d56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q5bff5378f56acbac5c90","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":417,"speaker":"jfw***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:52.662Z","text":"埋怨毫无作用。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bff5378f56acbac5c90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q537800ad3f7e22b6a8d6","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":418,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:53.214Z","text":"只有篱笆扎的紧，狐狸不能进家门","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q537800ad3f7e22b6a8d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa2c8df91c7799485bcd6","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":419,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:22:42.316Z","text":"可惜没能知道结果了，这里还是挺郭的，以后，是会慢慢清醒了，还是一辈子坚持挺呢，不知道了……🙈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2c8df91c7799485bcd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa03d42abd89e17066a78","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":420,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:22:55.627Z","text":"有些蚂蚁至今不醒，他们的思维模式与国宝帮类似","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa03d42abd89e17066a78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf96837d0003c5771ba50","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":421,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:23:49.778Z","text":"有些傻瓜买了高价的假古董，他无论如何也不会承认自己的愚蠢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf96837d0003c5771ba50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf08ce94611281e69155c","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":422,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:24:55.947Z","text":"他们一心一意地期待真正的懂货的买家购买他们的古董","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf08ce94611281e69155c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q657c2a4a690b433181b3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":423,"speaker":"jfw***","date":"2025-05-19T15:25:44.817Z","text":"买他们的古董，那是不可能的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q657c2a4a690b433181b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q15a8162b33ec4bc876e5","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":424,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:25:55.541Z","text":"但我觉得，人的年纪不同，看待事物也是不同的，或者经历的事情不同，也是会改变的。315之后的3个月内，我和这里的所有挺郭蚂蚁一样，义愤填膺，啊，郭先生这么伟大，还被共产党和美国坏蛋陷害啊，我好气愤啊！！再3个月后，随着看到各种谎言被拆穿，就开始引发了自己的思考，为什么，不是说很厉害的嘛？为什么会这样？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15a8162b33ec4bc876e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q9c45873ab0f9958aa62a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":425,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:27:53.087Z","text":"我身边就有一个顽固的国宝帮，我从来不去揭穿他，揭穿他就会让他崩溃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c45873ab0f9958aa62a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q0c2c9889cffa118f2fe7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":426,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:29:33.589Z","text":"他家满屋的假古董，他活在那个美好巨富的美梦中","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c2c9889cffa118f2fe7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q55ece86318a488dcb6a3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":427,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:29:51.743Z","text":"不知道问这条问题，有人会认真思考吗？315之前，郭说的这样厉害那样厉害，315至今，郭展示过一次他的厉害吗？保释不成功，被判有罪，律师也不和还欠律师费！真正伟大的人物，会是这样的吗？！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ece86318a488dcb6a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000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malpractice）本身通常不会直接导致“无效辩护”（ineffective defense），但在特定情况下，律师的渎职行为可能被认为是“无效协助辩护”（ineffective assistance of counsel），这在某些法律体系（如美国）可能构成上诉或推翻判决的理由。以下是详细分析：\n\n### 1. **律师渎职与无效辩护的关系**\n- **律师渎职**：指律师在执业过程中未能履行专业职责，例如未尽合理注意义务、疏忽大意、未能充分调查案件、错过关键期限，或未能提供适当的法律建议。\n- **无效辩护/无效协助辩护**：在刑事案件中，特指律师的表现严重低于专业标准，且这种失败直接影响了案件结果。例如，美国宪法第六修正案保障被告获得有效辩护权，若律师表现严重失职，可能被认定为“无效协助辩护”。\n\n律师渎职可能导致无效协助辩护，但需满足特定条件（见下文）。\n\n### 2. **无效协助辩护的法律标准**\n以美国为例，1984年的**Strickland v. Washington**案例确立了判断“无效协助辩护”的两要件：\n1. **律师表现不足**：律师的行为明显低于合理专业标准。例如：\n   - 未传唤关键证人或未充分交叉质证。\n   - 未能提出关键证据或法律论点。\n   - 对案件事实或法律完全无准备。\n2. **损害结果**：律师的失误对案件结果产生了实质性不利影响，即如果律师表现得当，案件结果（如定罪或量刑）可能不同。\n\n只有同时满足这两点，法院才可能认定律师渎职构成无效协助辩护，从而可能导致重审或撤销原判决。\n\n### 3. **律师渎职是否必然导致无效辩护**\n- **不必然**：并非所有律师渎职都会被认定为无效协助辩护。例如：\n  - 如果律师的小失误（如措辞不当）未实质影响案件结果，法院不会认定无效。\n  - 如果案件证据压倒性（如确凿的DNA证据），即使律师失职，法院可能认为结果不会改变。\n- **具体情境**：某些严重渎职行为，如律师在庭审中睡着（真实案例，如Calvin Burdine案）、未与被告沟通、或完全不了解相关法律，可能被认定为无效协助辩护。\n\n### 4. **中国法律语境**\n在中国，律师渎职不直接等同于“无效辩护”，但可能影响案件公正性：\n- **刑事诉讼**：根据《刑事诉讼法》，辩护律师应依法履行职责，如提供法律咨询、调查取证、庭审辩护等。若律师严重失职（如故意隐瞒证据或与检方串通），可能被视为违反职业道德，甚至触犯刑法（如律师伪证罪）。\n- **救济途径**：若律师渎职导致被告权益受损，被告可向法院提出程序违法申诉，或通过律师协会投诉律师，但推翻原判决需证明渎职直接导致司法不公，且通常需其他程序性错误支持。\n- **实践难点**：中国司法实践中，鲜有因律师渎职直接认定“无效辩护”并重审的案例，更多通过上诉或申诉程序间接处理。\n\n### 5. **实际案例与后果**\n- **美国案例**：在Strickland v. Washington案中，法院认定律师未充分调查被告背景（可能减轻量刑）不构成无效协助，因未证明结果会改变。\n- **中国案例**：如某些冤错案（如聂树斌案），律师未尽职调查证据可能是问题之一，但最终纠正更多依赖再审程序，而非直接以“无效辩护”为由。\n\n### 6. **如何处理律师渎职**\n- **刑事案件**：若怀疑律师渎职导致不公，可提起上诉或申诉，需提供证据证明律师失职及对结果的影响。\n- **民事追责**：可对律师提起民事诉讼，要求赔偿因渎职造成的损失（如经济或自由损失）。\n- **职业投诉**：向律师协会或司法行政机关投诉，可能导致律师被纪律处分。\n\n### 7. **建议与进一步分析**\n如果你有具体案例或情境（如某案件中律师的具体失误），我可以帮你分析是否可能构成无效协助辩护，或是否符合中国法律的救济条件。此外：\n- 若需实时信息，我可搜索X帖子或网络资源，查找类似案例或公众讨论。\n- 若涉及具体法律条款，我可进一步引用《刑事诉讼法》或相关司法解释。\n\n请告诉我你的具体需求（如案件背景、司法管辖区、或是否需要搜索），我可以提供更精准的解答！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aadbfeec57958af7787","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q149a5730cca373b4beae","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":481,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T16:35:40.322Z","text":"战友都做不到的，\n给一个砸锅的给做了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q720a8c4e4c9cefddb767","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149a5730cca373b4beae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q720a8c4e4c9cefddb767","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qc7c3df97a15dd8c45762","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":482,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:37:51.588Z","text":"如果受害者能行动去讨回公道，惩罚他们，这话没错！但很多只是相信报应，等天收他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17f1281b0dcbc433233c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7c3df97a15dd8c45762","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17f1281b0dcbc433233c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q41c336a864cd222a1ab1","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":483,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-19T16:40:07.733Z","text":"指望战友行动惩罚他们估计没戏了，现在去质疑盖尔卢克都没几个人，不过这次如果成功可能会给很多人勇气","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41c336a864cd222a1ab1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q39640abab924ae65fef2","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":484,"speaker":"she***","date":"2025-05-19T16:40:22.635Z","text":"只要没了共匪，他们能逃到那里去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39640abab924ae65fef2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":485,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:40:44.288Z","text":"证明这件事不简单，不正常，不是一般失火","edited":false,"reply_to":"q149a5730cca373b4beae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149a5730cca373b4beae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":486,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:41:21.970Z","text":"其实很多战友不是没有勇气，只是找不到门路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q13742616bad74e86cc61","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":487,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T16:41:33.389Z","text":"你还看不懂放火的和调查的是一伙的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13742616bad74e86cc61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb554ae2257c5f874be03","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":488,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:42:03.447Z","text":"说话保守点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13742616bad74e86cc61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb554ae2257c5f874be03","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13742616bad74e86cc61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q078663687e91c7bea52a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":489,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T16:42:20.460Z","text":"这是常识","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb554ae2257c5f874be03","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q078663687e91c7bea52a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb554ae2257c5f874be03","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q400685272056f56084a7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":490,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-19T16:43:19.669Z","text":"英文不好是一个很大的障碍，墙内的也害怕被抓，还有联盟和小羊被忽悠的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q400685272056f56084a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.c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 行动了什么？！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55430bf17fdcbfea26e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7d7472b90f10feeacacd","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":503,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:10:05.727Z","text":"只有咱们伟大的宇宙大法官【任言齐】同志，真真正正的在做实事！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d7472b90f10feeacacd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf206d122a7202d520e07","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":504,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:10:40.664Z","text":"这两个在这一唱一和，\n是回去按字数结账吗？\n截图打卡，领工资。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bd7f094f009d1a3f411","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf206d122a7202d520e07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qd5e4fb54d636a863c30e","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":505,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:14:01.772Z","text":"现在还装作不知道假联盟已被伪类掌握的，是幼稚还是傻的可爱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd25956747ada96ead000","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5e4fb54d636a863c30e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd25956747ada96ead000","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q20109e5cf04f0d830996","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":506,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:16:13.681Z","text":"唐平威廉住着这么大的豪宅！靠爆料革命骗钱太爽了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20109e5cf04f0d830996","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qbe1f0e315463d479c2a3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":507,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:16:17.491Z","text":"后悔做伟类了，现在写悔改书重新加入革命赚大钱，还来得急么？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe1f0e315463d479c2a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7aff6b47b49d4c929166","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":508,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:18:29.089Z","text":"他们伪类的话术还不清楚吗？8年了，七哥没钱了，七哥明天要被抓了，七哥后天要回国了。\n话术8年也没变个花样出来，上线给他们发工资估计也是不情不愿。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda259d2a8ab05c6d8637","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aff6b47b49d4c929166","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda259d2a8ab05c6d8637","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q5233e4b81fe5f01b29cd","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":509,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:20:38.484Z","text":"我也想问呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2b95dd29581e1ccd168","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5233e4b81fe5f01b29cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2b95dd29581e1ccd168","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb9b43fadbcef410b970d","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":510,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:21:27.796Z","text":"战友们不读游戏币的条款，就像他们不读喜币的条款一样（哪有狗屁黄金挂钩）！\n\n但只要有人损失了真金白银，这就是一起诈骗项目！\n\n所以我说嘛，青藤帮根本不敢起诉，否则唐平威廉王完全可以反诉，这就是郭教主支持，青藤作为法人执行的又一起联盟共谋诈骗项目！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9b43fadbcef410b970d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":511,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:22:54.099Z","text":"原来如此。了解一点了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6aadbfeec57958af7787","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aadbfeec57958af7787","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qee99908557dba3eddbaf","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":512,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:34:28.385Z","text":"七哥说了，G币是偶然，GTV是必然，喜币是神意，tdccp卡是旨意。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee99908557dba3eddbaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q061d303ceb06cf40fa88","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":513,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:37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朴昌海  呢，嗯，对了， 朴昌海  现在去哪儿呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q061d303ceb06cf40fa88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q33c77da3a192d9652f28","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":514,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T18:16:51.135Z","text":"问gork的回答","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33c77da3a192d9652f28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7dc5a460890ea70680de","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":515,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T18:17:52.149Z","text":"是不是真的不知道，就只是说像，特别是尚李同志的表现，很五毛","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf206d122a7202d520e07","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dc5a460890ea70680de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf206d122a7202d520e07","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q850e6413c7d636df672e","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":516,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T18:28:37.978Z","text":"中西方的这两个人，终于要汇合了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q850e6413c7d636df672e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":517,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T19:16:21.914Z","text":"这案子只有把青藤一起告才有希望","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb9e392a8d553d00572e0","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":518,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T19:17:18.392Z","text":"青藤是灭共币得发行方法人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9e392a8d553d00572e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe62c0dd6033b5201cc5d","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":519,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T20:09:38.455Z","text":"希诺先生终于说了一句像样的话🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe62c0dd6033b5201cc5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q101286ac976e6c3812bf","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":520,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-19T22:06:30.883Z","text":"应该把联盟农场那些[屏蔽词]全部逮捕并且审前拘押，和郭一样!","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101286ac976e6c3812bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa35dd94997cca063357f","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":521,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T23:38:49.701Z","text":"发个动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q101286ac976e6c3812bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa35dd94997cca063357f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101286ac976e6c3812bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qfd7238cef66e730669a1","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":522,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-19T23:47:36.870Z","text":"你们这些怂包，有种就揭发我，打击我。我在法庭上呢。我非常可能对你七哥踢裆插眼啊！\n\nhttps://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1924610815262630029?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd7238cef66e730669a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q6178ff9ee399a3216abf","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":523,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T23:49:05.343Z","text":"［用户 sin***］ 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chu***］  ［用户 him***］  可以发动议抓他们","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q226a498569ea69f1d697","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q187503556ae842db4574","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":531,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-20T00:37:23.769Z","text":"Chunk 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180***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa047209b840a28bc820b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":547,"speaker":"all***","date":"2025-05-20T04:00:44.333Z","text":"联盟背后不都是郭在指挥吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q63a3cbf672a0d02e8e75","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":548,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:02:16.873Z","text":"此受害非彼受害。\n首先不考虑农场联盟暴雷，如果盖尔也不去法庭提交，那战友何来被联盟受害，如果承认投资是被联盟侵害，也就是承认是七哥的受害人。\n要受害也是被联盟和盖尔律师的恶意动议，产生的受害。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a3e634dbdb4a01fba56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63a3cbf672a0d02e8e75","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a3e634dbdb4a01fba56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q5f9055d250990e3b10d3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":549,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:04:14.806Z","text":"联盟的受害人，是七哥。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f9055d250990e3b10d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb2b0b6e9521d6d02d96a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":550,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:07:24.619Z","text":"实际是整个联盟高层都在做局害七哥。\n这么明显的背叛，还指挥？\n这些都是和伪类ccp一伙的潜伏者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2b0b6e9521d6d02d96a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":551,"speaker":"all***","date":"2025-05-20T04:09:03.285Z","text":"还个锤子，你七哥看样子是大[屏蔽词]，养着一帮人专门害他","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q333c9a9d108122a1b200","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":552,"speaker":"all***","date":"2025-05-20T04:09:40.495Z","text":"还天天伪类CCP，你七哥害的人比伪类多了去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q333c9a9d108122a1b200","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qbfdeceb0800afdde9ab7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":553,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:11:44.319Z","text":"数字银行登记，几个月前，联盟那些[屏蔽词]，怎么说的啊？律师费怎么算怎么付啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfdeceb0800afdde9ab7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":554,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:15:44.908Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1924680334375059690?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf4e80c8d2d20f2299ca3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":555,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:19:33.142Z","text":"没法，这些人潜伏进去的目的就是害人，\n时时刻刻想着办法悄悄的害人。\n只有最后一网打尽的时候清算了。\n他们确实是害了不少战友，每次暴雷都会有产生。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4e80c8d2d20f2299ca3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q601cd88cf33a4fbc74df","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":556,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:21:51.475Z","text":"数字银行登记，律师还是要一点点脸，没有引用犯罪受害者权利法案。用的是853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q601cd88cf33a4fbc74df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa18326933b651947b007","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":557,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:21:55.068Z","text":"顺顺利利能叫爆料革命吗？\n你要革ccp的命，能不受点伤害，做梦。\n那还是不要参加好了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q333c9a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还是联盟找的同一个","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe98d3dd2eb34f7dd0386","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q22574647bb4ff89aa074","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":559,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:29:27.457Z","text":"律师叫Gavenman","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22574647bb4ff89aa074","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe67f1a661247d0e581c5","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":560,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:29:50.174Z","text":"投资数字银行的钱，\n投资g系列（a10）的钱，\n还有在喜联储的投资和资产。\n是这三个部分吗？\n这三部分全都被冻结了吗？\n都还在吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe67f1a661247d0e581c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe8dcfc497555bbff4cc3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":561,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:32:08.665Z","text":"学到一条：以后先别着急把授权轻易给律师。\n要搞得明明白白。要把授权的内容明细，全都写得清清楚楚。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9192434dc5734286863a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8dcfc497555bbff4cc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q0f3bb0e33bf6479a8a99","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":562,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:11.158Z","text":"看来数字银行的钱都还在，问题不大。就看要回这些钱会不会被人1利用到害七哥。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5a129ef150a6e9834be","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f3bb0e33bf6479a8a99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf76383bd08c9be24a167","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":563,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:39.478Z","text":"当时记得是10万美元起步吧，投资门槛非常高。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf76383bd08c9be24a167","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe0de02f1f10ff20c1b01","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":564,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:46.218Z","text":"肯定还老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0de02f1f10ff20c1b01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q899bee598e17e6cc8063","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":565,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:51.170Z","text":"害老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q899bee598e17e6cc8063","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q4c27ea5b8a552047b235","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":566,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:34:17.624Z","text":"只要去要钱，就是等于说，赶快把郭重判，然后还钱。道理非常简单","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c27ea5b8a552047b235","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q20dd55140dc61aa709ee","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":567,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:34:30.137Z","text":"不把老郭判了，钱怎么回来啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20dd55140dc61aa709ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q3b8e645fdd91545c8c0f","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":568,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:35:21.225Z","text":"853n。自我安慰罢了。检方把所有人都当做受害者。去要钱，就是受害者自投罗网！用来证明郭文贵有罪，量刑加重！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8e645fdd91545c8c0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qc3fb5d340bc8cbad0df9","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":569,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:35:50.998Z","text":"所以现在不是要钱的时候？\n先是打掉luc和盖尔这些要钱人的合法性。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3fb5d340bc8cbad0df9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa85e4f91d23d292f4620","batch_id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7.110Z","text":"今天才知道，律师叫Gavenman","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1b86f167de3b1ab0bf9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q23de799b373dfc10e975","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":582,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:51:52.958Z","text":"我，牛逼不牛逼。连人家名字都不知道，一份文件没有看。我只知道那是数字银行登记来要钱的，其他一概不知。我就直接打击数字银行登记。这是我在法庭上的最后一份文件。679","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23de799b373dfc10e975","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q65ec34e0a57cd3b7b3b7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":583,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:52:29.224Z","text":"4月8号上传的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65ec34e0a57cd3b7b3b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7eee1656603e457f7bde","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":584,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:54:01.441Z","text":"你仔细读一下。我现在想笑。中文原版，一堆错词。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eee1656603e457f7bde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q0e08c0965f3c6e21d9d7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":585,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:54:59.308Z","text":"代理产权，应该是性质。马克思郭文贵，不知道当时想打什么字了。这种文件，谁看了都懵逼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e08c0965f3c6e21d9d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q1636a926eb9b70a7f600","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":586,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:55:32.940Z","text":"你这中文原版还是英文翻译回来的版本？有点不通顺。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc37430b26ac8fdcf908f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1636a926eb9b70a7f600","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc37430b26ac8fdcf908f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe423eefe6dd7e4ff18f6","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":587,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:55:46.260Z","text":"最后，建议检方，打成了检查检方。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe423eefe6dd7e4ff18f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe9461bd4dccf4fe3fbc5","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":588,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:56:08.138Z","text":"我已自行校对了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe423eefe6dd7e4ff18f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9461bd4dccf4fe3fbc5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe423eefe6dd7e4ff18f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qc0bb1f13cfc47a9e38ff","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":589,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:56:21.158Z","text":"第三页是我的中文原版。用这个翻译过去英文。中文都是错的，英文肯定也是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0bb1f13cfc47a9e38ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q121dccf0cd330487a614","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":590,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:57:00.411Z","text":"老郭要是在监狱看到我这个，得气笑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q121dccf0cd330487a614","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qd95fab0c5a75c4242a54","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":591,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:57:14.643Z","text":"中文翻译英文前多看几遍。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd95fab0c5a75c4242a54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qd48835a58f4476e4496c","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":592,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:57:38.114Z","text":"多次提交万一又被禁止动议，就废了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd48835a58f4476e4496c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q05085620f806129f8c7b","batch_id":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诉回求的嫌疑人。这个术语生活中没遇到过。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd679f0be0a9bb4f7feb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000001","next_batch_id":"batch-000003"}