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大卫，如 江虾头  都是很会说谎吹牛的人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08b4e5f586effd14bc13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q1dc3108956378f29ab0a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":414,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:17:25.392Z","text":"真正有理性，独立思考，不善奉承，也不怕吃亏的人很难被郭骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dc3108956378f29ab0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":415,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:11.574Z","text":"贝郭骗忽悠损失钱财的人应该反省自己，光埋怨郭文贵是远远不够的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb02eb6b8df636bad9d56","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":416,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:41.110Z","text":"或者说，早就离开了。我不知道你还记不记的，有个美国的数学教授，叫啥我忘了，最早2017年露脸挺郭的，和郭宝胜有点熟。东京爆协后，他公开做视频向鸡肋郭求情郭宝胜。后来他自己退出了，就是在 Sara 那个战友之声感觉到文革的气氛，他不玩了。哦，叫 石家桩 。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb02eb6b8df636bad9d56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q5bff5378f56acbac5c90","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":417,"speaker":"jfw***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:52.662Z","text":"埋怨毫无作用。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bff5378f56acbac5c90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560f0893147fbb3b86fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q537800ad3f7e22b6a8d6","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":418,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:20:53.214Z","text":"只有篱笆扎的紧，狐狸不能进家门","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q537800ad3f7e22b6a8d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa2c8df91c7799485bcd6","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":419,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:22:42.316Z","text":"可惜没能知道结果了，这里还是挺郭的，以后，是会慢慢清醒了，还是一辈子坚持挺呢，不知道了……🙈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2c8df91c7799485bcd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa03d42abd89e17066a78","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":420,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:22:55.627Z","text":"有些蚂蚁至今不醒，他们的思维模式与国宝帮类似","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa03d42abd89e17066a78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf96837d0003c5771ba50","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":421,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:23:49.778Z","text":"有些傻瓜买了高价的假古董，他无论如何也不会承认自己的愚蠢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf96837d0003c5771ba50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf08ce94611281e69155c","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":422,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:24:55.947Z","text":"他们一心一意地期待真正的懂货的买家购买他们的古董","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf08ce94611281e69155c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q657c2a4a690b433181b3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":423,"speaker":"jfw***","date":"2025-05-19T15:25:44.817Z","text":"买他们的古董，那是不可能的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q657c2a4a690b433181b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q15a8162b33ec4bc876e5","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":424,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:25:55.541Z","text":"但我觉得，人的年纪不同，看待事物也是不同的，或者经历的事情不同，也是会改变的。315之后的3个月内，我和这里的所有挺郭蚂蚁一样，义愤填膺，啊，郭先生这么伟大，还被共产党和美国坏蛋陷害啊，我好气愤啊！！再3个月后，随着看到各种谎言被拆穿，就开始引发了自己的思考，为什么，不是说很厉害的嘛？为什么会这样？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15a8162b33ec4bc876e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q9c45873ab0f9958aa62a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":425,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:27:53.087Z","text":"我身边就有一个顽固的国宝帮，我从来不去揭穿他，揭穿他就会让他崩溃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c45873ab0f9958aa62a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q0c2c9889cffa118f2fe7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":426,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T15:29:33.589Z","text":"他家满屋的假古董，他活在那个美好巨富的美梦中","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c2c9889cffa118f2fe7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q55ece86318a488dcb6a3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":427,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T15:29:51.743Z","text":"不知道问这条问题，有人会认真思考吗？315之前，郭说的这样厉害那样厉害，315至今，郭展示过一次他的厉害吗？保释不成功，被判有罪，律师也不和还欠律师费！真正伟大的人物，会是这样的吗？！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ece86318a488dcb6a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000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malpractice）本身通常不会直接导致“无效辩护”（ineffective defense），但在特定情况下，律师的渎职行为可能被认为是“无效协助辩护”（ineffective assistance of counsel），这在某些法律体系（如美国）可能构成上诉或推翻判决的理由。以下是详细分析：\n\n### 1. **律师渎职与无效辩护的关系**\n- **律师渎职**：指律师在执业过程中未能履行专业职责，例如未尽合理注意义务、疏忽大意、未能充分调查案件、错过关键期限，或未能提供适当的法律建议。\n- **无效辩护/无效协助辩护**：在刑事案件中，特指律师的表现严重低于专业标准，且这种失败直接影响了案件结果。例如，美国宪法第六修正案保障被告获得有效辩护权，若律师表现严重失职，可能被认定为“无效协助辩护”。\n\n律师渎职可能导致无效协助辩护，但需满足特定条件（见下文）。\n\n### 2. **无效协助辩护的法律标准**\n以美国为例，1984年的**Strickland v. Washington**案例确立了判断“无效协助辩护”的两要件：\n1. **律师表现不足**：律师的行为明显低于合理专业标准。例如：\n   - 未传唤关键证人或未充分交叉质证。\n   - 未能提出关键证据或法律论点。\n   - 对案件事实或法律完全无准备。\n2. **损害结果**：律师的失误对案件结果产生了实质性不利影响，即如果律师表现得当，案件结果（如定罪或量刑）可能不同。\n\n只有同时满足这两点，法院才可能认定律师渎职构成无效协助辩护，从而可能导致重审或撤销原判决。\n\n### 3. **律师渎职是否必然导致无效辩护**\n- **不必然**：并非所有律师渎职都会被认定为无效协助辩护。例如：\n  - 如果律师的小失误（如措辞不当）未实质影响案件结果，法院不会认定无效。\n  - 如果案件证据压倒性（如确凿的DNA证据），即使律师失职，法院可能认为结果不会改变。\n- **具体情境**：某些严重渎职行为，如律师在庭审中睡着（真实案例，如Calvin Burdine案）、未与被告沟通、或完全不了解相关法律，可能被认定为无效协助辩护。\n\n### 4. **中国法律语境**\n在中国，律师渎职不直接等同于“无效辩护”，但可能影响案件公正性：\n- **刑事诉讼**：根据《刑事诉讼法》，辩护律师应依法履行职责，如提供法律咨询、调查取证、庭审辩护等。若律师严重失职（如故意隐瞒证据或与检方串通），可能被视为违反职业道德，甚至触犯刑法（如律师伪证罪）。\n- **救济途径**：若律师渎职导致被告权益受损，被告可向法院提出程序违法申诉，或通过律师协会投诉律师，但推翻原判决需证明渎职直接导致司法不公，且通常需其他程序性错误支持。\n- **实践难点**：中国司法实践中，鲜有因律师渎职直接认定“无效辩护”并重审的案例，更多通过上诉或申诉程序间接处理。\n\n### 5. **实际案例与后果**\n- **美国案例**：在Strickland v. Washington案中，法院认定律师未充分调查被告背景（可能减轻量刑）不构成无效协助，因未证明结果会改变。\n- **中国案例**：如某些冤错案（如聂树斌案），律师未尽职调查证据可能是问题之一，但最终纠正更多依赖再审程序，而非直接以“无效辩护”为由。\n\n### 6. **如何处理律师渎职**\n- **刑事案件**：若怀疑律师渎职导致不公，可提起上诉或申诉，需提供证据证明律师失职及对结果的影响。\n- **民事追责**：可对律师提起民事诉讼，要求赔偿因渎职造成的损失（如经济或自由损失）。\n- **职业投诉**：向律师协会或司法行政机关投诉，可能导致律师被纪律处分。\n\n### 7. **建议与进一步分析**\n如果你有具体案例或情境（如某案件中律师的具体失误），我可以帮你分析是否可能构成无效协助辩护，或是否符合中国法律的救济条件。此外：\n- 若需实时信息，我可搜索X帖子或网络资源，查找类似案例或公众讨论。\n- 若涉及具体法律条款，我可进一步引用《刑事诉讼法》或相关司法解释。\n\n请告诉我你的具体需求（如案件背景、司法管辖区、或是否需要搜索），我可以提供更精准的解答！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aadbfeec57958af7787","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q149a5730cca373b4beae","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":481,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T16:35:40.322Z","text":"战友都做不到的，\n给一个砸锅的给做了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q720a8c4e4c9cefddb767","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149a5730cca373b4beae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q720a8c4e4c9cefddb767","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qc7c3df97a15dd8c45762","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":482,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:37:51.588Z","text":"如果受害者能行动去讨回公道，惩罚他们，这话没错！但很多只是相信报应，等天收他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17f1281b0dcbc433233c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7c3df97a15dd8c45762","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17f1281b0dcbc433233c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q41c336a864cd222a1ab1","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":483,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-19T16:40:07.733Z","text":"指望战友行动惩罚他们估计没戏了，现在去质疑盖尔卢克都没几个人，不过这次如果成功可能会给很多人勇气","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41c336a864cd222a1ab1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q39640abab924ae65fef2","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":484,"speaker":"she***","date":"2025-05-19T16:40:22.635Z","text":"只要没了共匪，他们能逃到那里去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39640abab924ae65fef2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":485,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:40:44.288Z","text":"证明这件事不简单，不正常，不是一般失火","edited":false,"reply_to":"q149a5730cca373b4beae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149a5730cca373b4beae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":486,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:41:21.970Z","text":"其实很多战友不是没有勇气，只是找不到门路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q13742616bad74e86cc61","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":487,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T16:41:33.389Z","text":"你还看不懂放火的和调查的是一伙的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13742616bad74e86cc61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4e3e52713e421b7243","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb554ae2257c5f874be03","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":488,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T16:42:03.447Z","text":"说话保守点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13742616bad74e86cc61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb554ae2257c5f874be03","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13742616bad74e86cc61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q078663687e91c7bea52a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":489,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T16:42:20.460Z","text":"这是常识","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb554ae2257c5f874be03","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q078663687e91c7bea52a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb554ae2257c5f874be03","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q400685272056f56084a7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":490,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-19T16:43:19.669Z","text":"英文不好是一个很大的障碍，墙内的也害怕被抓，还有联盟和小羊被忽悠的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q400685272056f56084a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2837fcee60ba98a46ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.c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 行动了什么？！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55430bf17fdcbfea26e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7d7472b90f10feeacacd","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":503,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:10:05.727Z","text":"只有咱们伟大的宇宙大法官【任言齐】同志，真真正正的在做实事！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d7472b90f10feeacacd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf206d122a7202d520e07","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":504,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:10:40.664Z","text":"这两个在这一唱一和，\n是回去按字数结账吗？\n截图打卡，领工资。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bd7f094f009d1a3f411","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf206d122a7202d520e07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qd5e4fb54d636a863c30e","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":505,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:14:01.772Z","text":"现在还装作不知道假联盟已被伪类掌握的，是幼稚还是傻的可爱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd25956747ada96ead000","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5e4fb54d636a863c30e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd25956747ada96ead000","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q20109e5cf04f0d830996","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":506,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:16:13.681Z","text":"唐平威廉住着这么大的豪宅！靠爆料革命骗钱太爽了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20109e5cf04f0d830996","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qbe1f0e315463d479c2a3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":507,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:16:17.491Z","text":"后悔做伟类了，现在写悔改书重新加入革命赚大钱，还来得急么？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe1f0e315463d479c2a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7aff6b47b49d4c929166","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":508,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:18:29.089Z","text":"他们伪类的话术还不清楚吗？8年了，七哥没钱了，七哥明天要被抓了，七哥后天要回国了。\n话术8年也没变个花样出来，上线给他们发工资估计也是不情不愿。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda259d2a8ab05c6d8637","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aff6b47b49d4c929166","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda259d2a8ab05c6d8637","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q5233e4b81fe5f01b29cd","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":509,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:20:38.484Z","text":"我也想问呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2b95dd29581e1ccd168","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5233e4b81fe5f01b29cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2b95dd29581e1ccd168","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb9b43fadbcef410b970d","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":510,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:21:27.796Z","text":"战友们不读游戏币的条款，就像他们不读喜币的条款一样（哪有狗屁黄金挂钩）！\n\n但只要有人损失了真金白银，这就是一起诈骗项目！\n\n所以我说嘛，青藤帮根本不敢起诉，否则唐平威廉王完全可以反诉，这就是郭教主支持，青藤作为法人执行的又一起联盟共谋诈骗项目！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9b43fadbcef410b970d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":511,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T17:22:54.099Z","text":"原来如此。了解一点了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6aadbfeec57958af7787","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aadbfeec57958af7787","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qee99908557dba3eddbaf","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":512,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:34:28.385Z","text":"七哥说了，G币是偶然，GTV是必然，喜币是神意，tdccp卡是旨意。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee99908557dba3eddbaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q061d303ceb06cf40fa88","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":513,"speaker":"180***","date":"2025-05-19T17:37:44.673Z","text":"【任言齐】，我突然觉得，你刮干净胡子，有点像 朴昌海  呢，嗯，对了， 朴昌海  现在去哪儿呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q061d303ceb06cf40fa88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q33c77da3a192d9652f28","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":514,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T18:16:51.135Z","text":"问gork的回答","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33c77da3a192d9652f28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd4e9e8c9e3925a349a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q7dc5a460890ea70680de","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":515,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-19T18:17:52.149Z","text":"是不是真的不知道，就只是说像，特别是尚李同志的表现，很五毛","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf206d122a7202d520e07","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dc5a460890ea70680de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf206d122a7202d520e07","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q850e6413c7d636df672e","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":516,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-19T18:28:37.978Z","text":"中西方的这两个人，终于要汇合了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q850e6413c7d636df672e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":517,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T19:16:21.914Z","text":"这案子只有把青藤一起告才有希望","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb9e392a8d553d00572e0","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":518,"speaker":"sin***","date":"2025-05-19T19:17:18.392Z","text":"青藤是灭共币得发行方法人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9e392a8d553d00572e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe62c0dd6033b5201cc5d","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":519,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T20:09:38.455Z","text":"希诺先生终于说了一句像样的话🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe62c0dd6033b5201cc5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf471e1a27483bcff2fa7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q101286ac976e6c3812bf","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":520,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-19T22:06:30.883Z","text":"应该把联盟农场那些[屏蔽词]全部逮捕并且审前拘押，和郭一样!","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101286ac976e6c3812bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa35dd94997cca063357f","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":521,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T23:38:49.701Z","text":"发个动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q101286ac976e6c3812bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa35dd94997cca063357f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101286ac976e6c3812bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qfd7238cef66e730669a1","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":522,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-19T23:47:36.870Z","text":"你们这些怂包，有种就揭发我，打击我。我在法庭上呢。我非常可能对你七哥踢裆插眼啊！\n\nhttps://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1924610815262630029?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd7238cef66e730669a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q6178ff9ee399a3216abf","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":523,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-05-19T23:49:05.343Z","text":"［用户 sin***］ 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chu***］  ［用户 him***］  可以发动议抓他们","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q226a498569ea69f1d697","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q187503556ae842db4574","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":531,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-20T00:37:23.769Z","text":"Chunk 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180***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa047209b840a28bc820b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":547,"speaker":"all***","date":"2025-05-20T04:00:44.333Z","text":"联盟背后不都是郭在指挥吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q63a3cbf672a0d02e8e75","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":548,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:02:16.873Z","text":"此受害非彼受害。\n首先不考虑农场联盟暴雷，如果盖尔也不去法庭提交，那战友何来被联盟受害，如果承认投资是被联盟侵害，也就是承认是七哥的受害人。\n要受害也是被联盟和盖尔律师的恶意动议，产生的受害。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a3e634dbdb4a01fba56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63a3cbf672a0d02e8e75","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a3e634dbdb4a01fba56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q5f9055d250990e3b10d3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":549,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:04:14.806Z","text":"联盟的受害人，是七哥。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f9055d250990e3b10d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qb2b0b6e9521d6d02d96a","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":550,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:07:24.619Z","text":"实际是整个联盟高层都在做局害七哥。\n这么明显的背叛，还指挥？\n这些都是和伪类ccp一伙的潜伏者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2b0b6e9521d6d02d96a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a5093424696a2d29b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":551,"speaker":"all***","date":"2025-05-20T04:09:03.285Z","text":"还个锤子，你七哥看样子是大[屏蔽词]，养着一帮人专门害他","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q333c9a9d108122a1b200","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":552,"speaker":"all***","date":"2025-05-20T04:09:40.495Z","text":"还天天伪类CCP，你七哥害的人比伪类多了去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q333c9a9d108122a1b200","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qbfdeceb0800afdde9ab7","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":553,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:11:44.319Z","text":"数字银行登记，几个月前，联盟那些[屏蔽词]，怎么说的啊？律师费怎么算怎么付啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfdeceb0800afdde9ab7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":554,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:15:44.908Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1924680334375059690?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf4e80c8d2d20f2299ca3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":555,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:19:33.142Z","text":"没法，这些人潜伏进去的目的就是害人，\n时时刻刻想着办法悄悄的害人。\n只有最后一网打尽的时候清算了。\n他们确实是害了不少战友，每次暴雷都会有产生。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4e80c8d2d20f2299ca3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3d7b3d2312a69326eb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q601cd88cf33a4fbc74df","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":556,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:21:51.475Z","text":"数字银行登记，律师还是要一点点脸，没有引用犯罪受害者权利法案。用的是853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q601cd88cf33a4fbc74df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa18326933b651947b007","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":557,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:21:55.068Z","text":"顺顺利利能叫爆料革命吗？\n你要革ccp的命，能不受点伤害，做梦。\n那还是不要参加好了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q333c9a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还是联盟找的同一个","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe98d3dd2eb34f7dd0386","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6a8b12ce24a781688ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q22574647bb4ff89aa074","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":559,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:29:27.457Z","text":"律师叫Gavenman","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22574647bb4ff89aa074","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe67f1a661247d0e581c5","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":560,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:29:50.174Z","text":"投资数字银行的钱，\n投资g系列（a10）的钱，\n还有在喜联储的投资和资产。\n是这三个部分吗？\n这三部分全都被冻结了吗？\n都还在吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe67f1a661247d0e581c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe8dcfc497555bbff4cc3","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":561,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:32:08.665Z","text":"学到一条：以后先别着急把授权轻易给律师。\n要搞得明明白白。要把授权的内容明细，全都写得清清楚楚。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9192434dc5734286863a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8dcfc497555bbff4cc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q0f3bb0e33bf6479a8a99","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":562,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:11.158Z","text":"看来数字银行的钱都还在，问题不大。就看要回这些钱会不会被人1利用到害七哥。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5a129ef150a6e9834be","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f3bb0e33bf6479a8a99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qf76383bd08c9be24a167","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":563,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:39.478Z","text":"当时记得是10万美元起步吧，投资门槛非常高。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf76383bd08c9be24a167","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qe0de02f1f10ff20c1b01","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":564,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:46.218Z","text":"肯定还老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0de02f1f10ff20c1b01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q899bee598e17e6cc8063","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":565,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:33:51.170Z","text":"害老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q899bee598e17e6cc8063","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q4c27ea5b8a552047b235","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":566,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:34:17.624Z","text":"只要去要钱，就是等于说，赶快把郭重判，然后还钱。道理非常简单","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c27ea5b8a552047b235","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q20dd55140dc61aa709ee","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":567,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:34:30.137Z","text":"不把老郭判了，钱怎么回来啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20dd55140dc61aa709ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"q3b8e645fdd91545c8c0f","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":568,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-05-20T04:35:21.225Z","text":"853n。自我安慰罢了。检方把所有人都当做受害者。去要钱，就是受害者自投罗网！用来证明郭文贵有罪，量刑加重！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8e645fdd91545c8c0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qc3fb5d340bc8cbad0df9","batch_id":"batch-000002","seq":569,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-05-20T04:35:50.998Z","text":"所以现在不是要钱的时候？\n先是打掉luc和盖尔这些要钱人的合法性。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3fb5d340bc8cbad0df9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"},{"id":"qa85e4f91d23d292f462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诉回求的嫌疑人。这个术语生活中没遇到过。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd679f0be0a9bb4f7feb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000002"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000001","next_batch_id":"batch-000003"}