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［用户 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欢迎你。这里百分之百言论自由。给你绝对不一样的体验。欢迎你介绍你的小伙伴来这里。你们一起验证，这里关于郭文贵，是不是百分之百言论自由","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e0a771ad3ca9517a9fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q439426f9760e992147ac","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":27,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T13:53:09.867Z","text":"他们如果做了污点证人，还能打着郭的名义诈骗吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ea1f902752aae5d47d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q439426f9760e992147ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ea1f902752aae5d47d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q915b8efc8576b502934a","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":28,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-06T13:55:13.260Z","text":"所以要求把他们全都抓起来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q915b8efc8576b502934a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q159c9130830b272a7c7c","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":29,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:04:00.582Z","text":"为什么不能？青藤Ava不都在呢吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q439426f9760e992147ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q159c9130830b272a7c7c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q439426f9760e992147ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qe1e01e744f6b307faae3","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":30,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:11:11.969Z","text":"青藤不承认自己是受害人啊，Ava刚开始也不承认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q159c9130830b272a7c7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1e01e744f6b307faae3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q159c9130830b272a7c7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qc5940e4fdf6b396f6005","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":31,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:12:19.811Z","text":"做污点证人应该是像木兰那样吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5940e4fdf6b396f6005","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q7e4857dda0fbcdf6b4dd","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":32,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:12:56.185Z","text":"其他现在还在爱七哥打着郭名义做事的不可能是污点证人吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e4857dda0fbcdf6b4dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q6bed0fcd46b2ae8479e7","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":33,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:13:25.628Z","text":"法庭文件在那写着呢，他不承认管屁用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1e01e744f6b307faae3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bed0fcd46b2ae8479e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1e01e744f6b307faae3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q5a0fc4b67c305e80ec3d","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":34,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:14:00.503Z","text":"法庭文件里写的，法官问他是不是受害者，他说不是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a0fc4b67c305e80ec3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qacbc95b5a3b7bf5e3fad","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":35,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:14:17.594Z","text":"这是在法庭文件里的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacbc95b5a3b7bf5e3fad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qa8702c8660cdf922e0fe","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":36,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:14:25.525Z","text":"污点证人不会写在法庭上，但是没有好处为什么去做检方证人呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5940e4fdf6b396f6005","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8702c8660cdf922e0fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5940e4fdf6b396f6005","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q5b88bd40477211d584e4","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":37,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:14:55.576Z","text":"我的意思是，做了污点证人的人，不可能再用郭的名义做任何事情了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status"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追杀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf9bc8775d6ed129619b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q40baeda34ece0f3842d2","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":78,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:34:57.436Z","text":"就是说，如果不翻案，那所有投资人，不管你承不承认，检方都把你当成受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40baeda34ece0f3842d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q923d38a96e50e249481a","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":79,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:35:44.032Z","text":"承认是受害者一样是给七哥定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q923d38a96e50e249481a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qf3c4c5bd4ea3e1be0920","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":80,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:36:00.702Z","text":"所以做受害者从现在看来并不是那么严重的事情。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3c4c5bd4ea3e1be0920","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qb1b82038ace68d65a60b","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":81,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:36:08.602Z","text":"当然你最好不要承认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b82038ace68d65a60b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qbd12b8b1d4edc1184a08","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":82,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:36:29.022Z","text":"但是你承不承认，也不在于你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd12b8b1d4edc1184a08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q164e16ccb577f6e674cb","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":83,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:36:33.360Z","text":"怎么不严重？有受害者就证明是犯罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q164e16ccb577f6e674cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qd774d8d6fa8067f4e5dd","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":84,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:36:45.796Z","text":"那除非你躲起来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd774d8d6fa8067f4e5dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qeb30f4d31dbd858da462","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":85,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:36:58.276Z","text":"Gtv为啥和解了，因为找不到受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb30f4d31dbd858da462","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q3febc73b322604c40321","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":86,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:36:58.828Z","text":"你不躲起来，检方就认为你是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3febc73b322604c40321","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q8666568e752480dd3ed6","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":87,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:37:17.901Z","text":"躲起来又如何？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8666568e752480dd3ed6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q83ccd51d737ed14a2c96","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":88,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:37:22.264Z","text":"你躲起来，还怎么翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83ccd51d737ed14a2c96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qdf78d09e94b68f323195","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":89,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:37:28.057Z","text":"你整天想啥呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf78d09e94b68f323195","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"}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，我猜，是把郭文贵和gtv,不能绑定，才和解的！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb30f4d31dbd858da462","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0fda4e9e2964b7ea281","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb30f4d31dbd858da462","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q9415a4fe5b5edd28a524","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":95,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:38:26.356Z","text":"所以你就不要纠结你是不是受害者了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9415a4fe5b5edd28a524","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q1601f28c3ad1002895e5","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":96,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:38:44.350Z","text":"你还可以第三方啊，让你说的只能坐以待毙了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1601f28c3ad1002895e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q1754b77604e347fca482","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":97,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:38:49.651Z","text":"你也不要纠结别人是不是受害者了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1754b77604e347fca482","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q60b934a8f162f08382b8","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":98,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:39:16.763Z","text":"没来得及填表捏造受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0fda4e9e2964b7ea281","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60b934a8f162f08382b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0fda4e9e2964b7ea281","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qc821ea29daa58d4f44fa","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":99,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:40:07.532Z","text":"我没纠结啊，承认是受害者就是承认七哥骗了他，就这么回事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1754b77604e347fca482","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc821ea29daa58d4f44fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1754b77604e347fca482","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q6cea4681352bb8022636","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":100,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:40:44.951Z","text":"对啊，我觉得在这个案子里，受害者就是个伪概念","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc821ea29daa58d4f44fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cea4681352bb8022636","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc821ea29daa58d4f44fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q5bfb6909d90b2ed3e66b","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":101,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:41:10.137Z","text":"你纠结一个伪概念，就中了圈套","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bfb6909d90b2ed3e66b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qff4f9bcc0e8e5e712dbc","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":102,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:41:38.293Z","text":"就是拿你的投资逼着你背刺七哥，它们知道中国人最在乎的是啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff4f9bcc0e8e5e712dbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qd6da1390da07dd432434","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":103,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-06T14:41:50.053Z","text":"我觉得 爆料革命是一个概念 不是实体 但nfsc g系列 喜马拉雅系列 估计是洗不干净了 到时候郭出来再整新的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q557f28980fbfc06835a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6da1390da07dd432434","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q557f28980fbfc06835a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qcbb124a58962732d3cc4","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":104,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:42:11.786Z","text":"咋说着说着成了我纠结了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5bfb6909d90b2ed3e66b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbb124a58962732d3cc4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bfb6909d90b2ed3e66b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q9d6cde3bba1922d9857c","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":105,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:42:48.304Z","text":"你不是纠结Ava和青藤是不是做了受害者吗？那chunk还做了受害者呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbb124a58962732d3cc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d6cde3bba1922d9857c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbb124a58962732d3cc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q16cb76522930749456ee","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":106,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-06T14:42:53.029Z","text":"我认为个人承认受害者 多你一个也不多 少你一个也不少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16cb76522930749456ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qfb0f0996a33d04823aa5","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":107,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:43:17.389Z","text":"你纠结受害者，有啥用？反正不翻案，你们都是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb0f0996a33d04823aa5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q31a59237c6485dd1523c","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":108,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:43:47.512Z","text":"晕，是你在说，我才说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d6cde3bba1922d9857c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31a59237c6485dd1523c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d6cde3bba1922d9857c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qc381077d4cfd55243659","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":109,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:43:50.288Z","text":"就算你现在出现在法庭，你也是有名有姓的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc381077d4cfd55243659","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q5f0399e1ed6334e97e17","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":110,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-06T14:44:12.134Z","text":"盖尔六千多人一下子都成受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0399e1ed6334e97e17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qded35b6f3ef317ab7f5f","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":111,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-06T14:44:14.516Z","text":"这才是问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qded35b6f3ef317ab7f5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qe1264946cbb8865e087b","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":112,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:44:30.247Z","text":"对啊，现在还是关心一下程序不正义吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1264946cbb8865e087b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q2d99f203863187a1c4ea","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":113,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:44:36.614Z","text":"受害者就是个伪概念","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d99f203863187a1c4ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q56ef0e675884d5c8ad4f","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":114,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:44:40.143Z","text":"你的意思呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc381077d4cfd55243659","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56ef0e675884d5c8ad4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc381077d4cfd55243659","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q27310b7ed44b56f93678","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":115,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:45:03.417Z","text":"我的意思就是不要关心谁是受害者，谁不是了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27310b7ed44b56f93678","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q5472cb17d52a45186a7a","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":116,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:45:34.714Z","text":"成为受害者是被误导的，你不说清楚，直接就认了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27310b7ed44b56f93678","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5472cb17d52a45186a7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27310b7ed44b56f93678","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qce38d646b2a668f126fd","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":117,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T14:45:44.008Z","text":"包括对青藤Ava，我不觉得他们是好人，但是他们是不是受害者也无所谓。我不觉得他俩是好人，但是他们也不是污点证人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce38d646b2a668f126fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qc18653c754c138f4e677","batch_id":"batch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明道等人在旧金山农场忽悠之前艳平那个没收登记 明道跟你说的一样 ［用户 chu***］  检方自动把谁都当成受害人。 但那帮货是要给他们送成千上万个受害人 能他妈一样吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfceeab294bde875e8c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q2f321aa1c65c9aad9cdb","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":122,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:54:21.749Z","text":"181，182里没有盖尔的内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f321aa1c65c9aad9cdb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q789c1cd93581c79eee96","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":123,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T14:54:26.231Z","text":"刚看了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q789c1cd93581c79eee96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q5613848a5dd2a9a4e876","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":124,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-06T14:55:46.561Z","text":"186-1","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5613848a5dd2a9a4e876","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q95581616a12b41e22790","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":125,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:01:27.034Z","text":"这里好几处提到受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95581616a12b41e22790","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q3c5c6ae7632a30c211f6","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":126,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:02:02.154Z","text":"开始还分是谁的受害者，后面就直接说受害者了，谁的不提了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c5c6ae7632a30c211f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q32f658dfacbbc72fb2fe","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":127,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-06T15:02:03.202Z","text":"就是这个。此地无银三百两","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32f658dfacbbc72fb2fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q26a694378e0a394dba4c","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":128,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:05:14.079Z","text":"在这个案子里，有组织的填写的任何表格都是有问题的，因为这本来就是Rico案，不能有组织，只能自己代表自己。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfceeab294bde875e8c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26a694378e0a394dba4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfceeab294bde875e8c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q4816ff7e16c400c45830","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":129,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:06:22.926Z","text":"确实是检方把所有人都当成受害者了，但是你联盟为什么忽悠大家说要集体诉讼呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4816ff7e16c400c45830","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qd9797b0e8ac14e15357e","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":130,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:07:26.703Z","text":"联盟要是诚实的告诉大家，你们填盖尔的表格就是去要钱，当时也不一定会有那么多人填吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9797b0e8ac14e15357e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qb493c2de6ce42ac51d98","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":131,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:07:57.021Z","text":"他们忽悠大家说集体诉讼，证明活跃用户，一开始就是骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb493c2de6ce42ac51d98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q6b7a502a944046ed3977","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":132,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:28:58.537Z","text":"各位来补充证据🙏\n\nhttps://x.com/testurheart/status/1931008197331914918?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b7a502a944046ed3977","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qfd72217665b7705f00e1","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":133,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:29:58.754Z","text":"你搞反了，是因为有了这么多人填表被用作受害人，才导致Rico成立","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26a694378e0a394dba4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd72217665b7705f00e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26a694378e0a394dba4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q8dae39715862c8b0d0ca","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":134,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:30:20.844Z","text":"如果七哥一个人或者很少人就不是有组织犯罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dae39715862c8b0d0ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q2c00207d2fac199592ad","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":135,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:30:29.132Z","text":"不是，Rico成立是因为债权人，盖尔的表格只是提供受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd72217665b7705f00e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c00207d2fac199592ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd72217665b7705f00e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q213ee321ed145ec824da","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":136,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:30:51.551Z","text":"债权人哪来的？不是填表填出来的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q213ee321ed145ec824da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q27221f792618a85df652","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":137,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:31:02.149Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1930596064777699788?t=DjfPI0I4jpz_zTXPOgef9w&s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27221f792618a85df652","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q0907660f79b628b3c54d","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":138,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:31:11.240Z","text":"盖尔属于火上浇油的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0907660f79b628b3c54d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q5412fb3d25bd4a7114dc","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":139,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:31:47.162Z","text":"是，债权人也是填表，但是债权人绑定郭到G系列公司，不是绑定郭和战友","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5412fb3d25bd4a7114dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qbe7fd1c0c55ee1768c37","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":140,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:32:24.137Z","text":"可g系列和实体绑定到郭身上了呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe7fd1c0c55ee1768c37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"qafbff93bc9d3aa37cb2e","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":141,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-06T15:32:30.588Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafbff93bc9d3aa37cb2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q28d023e1dc322cae79ec","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":142,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:32:52.467Z","text":"连床垫都是郭的😅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28d023e1dc322cae79ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q0f5b1c08757ccbe55696","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":143,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:36:00.161Z","text":"Luc这家伙查的帐是很有价值的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f5b1c08757ccbe55696","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q49abe346a051ab6d86b1","batch_id":"batch-000008","seq":144,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-06T15:41:07.812Z","text":"各位帮忙看看，漏了啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b7a502a944046ed3977","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49abe346a051ab6d86b1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b7a502a944046ed3977","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000008"},{"id":"q46f6b841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