{"id":"batch-000010","number":10,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-06-18T17:17:33.783Z","date_end":"2025-06-24T22:55:02.879Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 010 (Jun 18, 2025 – Jun 24, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions focused on the bankruptcy and criminal proceedings involving Guo Wengui, with participants debating legal tactics, procedural justice, and factional alignments. Disagreements arose over whether to rely on CJA appointed counsel or pursue pro se motions and third-party interventions under the CVRA, Section 853(n), and Brady material. Participants also disputed bankruptcy trustee Luc Despins's authority and creditor claims, while clashing over livestreamers Xiaoyang and Luosige regarding accusations of perjury and community bans.","guide_en":[{"title":"Examining Defense Strategies: Skepticism Toward Lawyers and Pursuing Pro Se Paths","description":"Participants debate the utility of defense counsel versus pursuing self-representation in court proceedings.","message_ids":["q08f28c4dec9bd226b435","q617e3206c385804e0a91"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q08f28c4dec9bd226b435","summary_en":"Participant ntp*** contends that at least two attorneys will now ignore them."},{"message_id":"q617e3206c385804e0a91","summary_en":"Participant ntp*** argues that Xiaoyang would accuse them of committing perjury."}]},{"title":"Statutory Grounds for Third-Party Intervention: Applying CVRA and 853n Against Claims","description":"Participants discuss utilizing the Crime Victims' Rights Act and Section 853(n) for third-party 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Despins."},{"message_id":"q135210912cb6f3873497","summary_en":"Participant ntp*** shares a social media post addressing creditor issues."}]},{"title":"Questioning Trustee Luc's Authority and Claims Amid Intertwined Bankruptcy and Criminal Cases","description":"Participants evaluate how evidence from the bankruptcy proceeding affects the criminal conviction.","message_ids":["qa5793037131b7647be7e","q9d814eccafb980be6b3b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa5793037131b7647be7e","summary_en":"Participant rui*** contends that bankruptcy-related evidence can be dismantled, but the outcome depends on how much independent evidence exists to support conviction."},{"message_id":"q9d814eccafb980be6b3b","summary_en":"Participant rui*** argues that anything tied to the bankruptcy case can be defeated depending on the extent of other evidence."}]},{"title":"Disputes Over Creditor Registration, Allegations of Betrayal, and Impact on Victim Status","description":"Participants question motivations behind registering as creditors and how it affects loyalty to Guo.","message_ids":["q40c9e0243854d9e252ad","q3741dab6b07b0cbb4a29"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q40c9e0243854d9e252ad","summary_en":"Participant sar*** questions why people were upset when Guo instructed them to register as creditors, arguing they were merely following his instructions."},{"message_id":"q3741dab6b07b0cbb4a29","summary_en":"Participant sar*** contends that Guo was likely angered and hurt seeing so many people betraying him through registration."}]},{"title":"Discussions on CJA-Appointed Counsel, Government Funding Limits, and Defense Performance","description":"Participants dispute the nature of government-funded defense counsel and whether spending limits apply.","message_ids":["qbce564b7b11a6b2d3f1f","q4fa60073fc10deaf2b5c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qbce564b7b11a6b2d3f1f","summary_en":"Participant sar*** argues that the defense attorneys are funded by the government rather than Guo because of his bankruptcy, citing Xiaoyang's livestream."},{"message_id":"q4fa60073fc10deaf2b5c","summary_en":"Participant chu*** questions whether government-funded representation is subject to spending limits, disputing that the government would pay exorbitant legal fees."}]},{"title":"Strategizing Third-Party Motions Against Luc's Creditor Registration and Reviewing Prior Filings","description":"Participants examine legal avenues for third-party intervention against Trustee Luc Despins in the criminal case.","message_ids":["q1422ffe90f6f4b527a76","qbddc5e816d0ee7c18a30"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1422ffe90f6f4b527a76","summary_en":"Participant ntp*** contends that their primary goal is striking Luc Despins's creditor registration in the criminal case via third-party intervention and questions what claims can be brought against him."},{"message_id":"qbddc5e816d0ee7c18a30","summary_en":"Participant him*** points to Luosige's filing, identifying it as motion 524, which urged prosecutors to criminally investigate Luc Despins."}]},{"title":"Internal Community Friction Over Livestream Commentaries, Moderation, and Factional Posturing","description":"Participants criticize livestreamer Xiaoyang's commentary and conduct toward other community members.","message_ids":["q3ca70c9c557c0f0d8f54","q7a896151b4ddc51cfb0b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3ca70c9c557c0f0d8f54","summary_en":"Participant sar*** recounts watching Xiaoyang's livestream and criticizes him for mocking Luosige's trade and background."},{"message_id":"q7a896151b4ddc51cfb0b","summary_en":"Participant sar*** contends that Xiaoyang and his followers are acting irrationally rather than engaging in meaningful work."}]}],"summary":"本次讨论主要聚焦于郭文贵案相关的破产重组与刑事审判程序，讨论者围绕法律策略、程序正义及社群内部站位展开了激烈交锋。核心分歧首先体现在司法应对路径上：一方主张依托专业律师团队或CJA指定律师，探讨利用CVRA、853(n)条款及布雷迪证据规则推进自诉动议与第三方介入；另一方则对律师实际作用及高昂费用表达怀疑，甚至倾向于自诉或向外部机构呼吁。其次，破产受托人Luc Despins的权限与索赔合法性成为争议焦点，部分参与者质疑其主导的债权人登记、费用支出及破产案与刑事案的交叉影响，讨论撤销登记及提起法律异议的可行性。此外，围绕自媒体“小羊”及“螺丝哥”等人的直播言论、立场倾向、社群拉黑踢人以及是否涉嫌伪证等争论，在群体内部引发了持续的阵营对立与相互指责。","guide":[{"title":"辩护策略探讨：对律师作用的怀疑与坚持自诉（pro 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但他们的对手是中共 会被玩死","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf91c8e80e1a2a3ee99c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92be2e0c77eec4c3f5ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf91c8e80e1a2a3ee99c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf1d80997007520d58eeb","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":203,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-19T19:44:40.369Z","text":"只要老郭这个案子不翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1d80997007520d58eeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q006186f9a94653fabe97","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":204,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-19T19:44:51.775Z","text":"美国所有沼泽地都是中共的玩物","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q006186f9a94653fabe97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q543684745f028a7b494e","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":205,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-19T19:44:53.152Z","text":"你不听话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q543684745f028a7b494e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qbf25f4853b26dfd020b4","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":206,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-19T19:45:03.289Z","text":"就用和对付郭文贵一样的办法对付","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf25f4853b26dfd020b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc96a1babef58516b48ad","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":207,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-19T19:45:08.631Z","text":"而且案例法 畅通无阻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc96a1babef58516b48ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q518a7e8e377c368154c5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":208,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-19T19:45:15.879Z","text":"什么罗斯柴尔德 洛克菲勒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q518a7e8e377c368154c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q2692df54d54be7b685b1","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":209,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-19T19:45:20.681Z","text":"全他妈都进去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2692df54d54be7b685b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q43daaadffacc28145797","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":210,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-19T20:24:10.436Z","text":"他们可能早就被攥在手里了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43daaadffacc28145797","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qaadc11f867a29da229ad","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":211,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-19T20:53:34.611Z","text":"郭被抓及立案成立的基础就是Luc 跟联盟、农场，包括老班长明着暗着、连蒙带骗搞岀来的1000多个债权人又是G系列的主要受害人，虽然G系列后来被定为无罪，但是之前及当时被抓的逻辑是文贵掌控着G系列。\n这本身就是程序不正义。况且Luc的那一堆也是一个烂摊子，有一大堆的程序不正义，包括债权人绝大多数被误导，有一些是故意栽桩陷害、夸大金额，Luc的那一块也必须被打掉，被告律师可以要求举行一个听证会，Luc 必须作证。一旦Luc这块被打掉，案件就会被撤了。\n只是螺丝哥写了一句本不该是他写的话而被法官抓住。我们小老百姓的一点点程序不正义就会被抓出来痛批或者受到更严厉的惩罚。😂\n如果有更复杂的一步，那就是文贵的案件重新审理和开庭做 trial。到时候谁还会相信Q妹及联盟那一套骗术，真战友都会自己亲自去看庭审现场，而不是被新老联盟代表、控制庭审过程报道的话语权。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1e56ab5e0464f22307d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaadc11f867a29da229ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb99b06c75c05d7bfc941","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":212,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-19T21:49:13.494Z","text":"还有，扣押G系列财产，最早是2022年9月10月。为什么扣押啊？扣押理由是什么，扣押理由和郭文贵有什么关系?这些，你们想过啊？如果2022年九月10月，扣押那些实体账号是因为郭文贵，老郭早就应该被抓了！我猜，那时候的扣押和GTV应该一样！如果没有后续破产案推进到老郭和G系列绑定，那些实体非常可能也会和GTV一样的结果！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb99b06c75c05d7bfc941","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q669147e96e3b00c80158","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":213,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-19T21:51:44.403Z","text":"老郭的律师也可以从这方面下手！最早的扣押和郭文贵应该没有法律上的关系！是破产案推进到一定程度，时机合适了再抓的人，然后再把之前的扣押重新用郭案扣押！这是不是有没有可能程序不正义啊？我不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q669147e96e3b00c80158","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qac0c70e643be9c9e5087","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":214,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-19T21:55:03.785Z","text":"老郭钓鱼，先把自己当诱饵，被关押2年多，忍辱负重呀。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q106a438941ed12d892e6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac0c70e643be9c9e5087","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q267d8d9c5d0c0a0218f5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":215,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-19T22:04:52.242Z","text":"这段我做了一些更正。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26887f06be7b418bf5c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q267d8d9c5d0c0a0218f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26887f06be7b418bf5c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q3bbe495f5b2db2fa62c7","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":216,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-19T22:07:39.020Z","text":"政府扣押诈骗所得款项\n23. 大约在 2022 年 9 月 20 日和 2022 年 9 月 21 日，美\n国当局向几家国内银行送达了司法授权的扣押令，并随后\n从以喜马拉雅交易所实体和其他与郭浩云有关的实体名义\n持有的银行账户中扣押了约 3.35 亿美元的收益。当局向几\n家国内银行送达了司法授权的扣押令，随后从喜马拉雅交\n易所实体和其他与被告郭浩云，又名 \"Miles Guo\"，又名\n\"Miles Kwok\"，又名 \"郭文贵\"，又名 \"七哥\"，又名 \"老大\n\"，和余建明（又名\"William Je\"）名下的银行账户扣押了\n约 3.35 亿美元的收益。在 2022 年 9 月的司法授权扣押之\n后，余试图从与喜马拉雅交易所相关的国内银行账户（尚\n未被美国扣押）向余控制的阿联酋银行账户转账约 4600 万\n美元。\na. 在第","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bbe495f5b2db2fa62c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q7c537aa5772c66e0596e","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":217,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-19T22:53:00.626Z","text":"这些话作为第三方怎么提呢？第三方只能说钱相关的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q819c501fa54605b84db6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c537aa5772c66e0596e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5b3abdd4e0643aa12792","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":218,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-19T22:54:28.126Z","text":"第三方可能提不了。所以，最好直接打电话发邮件告诉老郭律师，哪里不正常","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c537aa5772c66e0596e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b3abdd4e0643aa12792","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c537aa5772c66e0596e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q81a56f2a5ff54e321736","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":219,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-19T22:57:30.332Z","text":"你们谁文字功底好，把所有不正常的东西汇总一下，发给老郭律师，然后直接打电话过去告诉他们你给他们发了一堆案件不正常的地方，希望他们可以参考","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81a56f2a5ff54e321736","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q32fa03243e78f0e0d920","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":220,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-20T00:28:07.867Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1935854174610375080?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32fa03243e78f0e0d920","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q8548dfc3e980b79e0f53","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":221,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-20T00:45:26.522Z","text":"我查了一下，引用853n，不等于你是受害者，只要你在动议里说明你不是受害者就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8548dfc3e980b79e0f53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q45d8e3b73bbdac3a92cf","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":222,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-20T00:45:53.423Z","text":"如果你不是受害者，853n是最好选择","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45d8e3b73bbdac3a92cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc136b63cd70a4c717eb0","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":223,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T00:45:58.087Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc136b63cd70a4c717eb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q52ab0087fdcf5e880be8","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":224,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T01:36:39.776Z","text":"哈哈 最好情况肯定是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ddf3179efb685f35c12","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52ab0087fdcf5e880be8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd4fac0efdd574e5705ee","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":225,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T01:36:47.975Z","text":"但法官不会要脸的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4fac0efdd574e5705ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qa46c95294ba30420b8ac","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":226,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-20T02:25:07.482Z","text":"这里，本质就是自己代表自己。不被联盟羊帮质疑帮代表。谁也不能替你做决定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46c95294ba30420b8ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q24d6f0f4328ede74b544","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":227,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-20T04:57:13.336Z","text":"你俩的这段话让我茅塞顿开。一直以来你俩和文贵等都在说程序不正义，让我似懂非懂，听着看着想着，我现在好像开窍一些。不知道以下的理解对不对。\n螺丝哥在今天的语音中打了一个很好的比喻：一部电影中飞行员坠机导致机上100多名乘客身亡，而该机长则幸存下来了。最初的判决是酒驾。但后来发现酒精检测仪的校证期已超过两天。从而酒驾被推翻。也就是说一个小小的程序不正义都有可能推翻一个重大案件。\n\n而郭文贵的案件存在诸多明显的程序不正义。文贵的刑事案件与民事案件即破产案件有大量的严重的关键性的重叠；他的刑事案件本身几乎没有受害者，而检方却生搬硬套地把破产案的债权人(受害者?) 偷梁换柱地、暗示性地搬到了刑事案件上来；文贵的前律师不得力，没人把这件事捅破，文贵估计也是在钓鱼让他们把事情做实，而法官睁一只眼闭一只眼，直到螺丝哥从墙内以利益相关方的身份和最省钱的、不请律师的方式向法庭发动议、作自我表述，即 ProSe。这个可是打开了一个缺口。螺丝哥成了照妖镜、试金石，小羊帮一开始试图躲避他，现在躲不掉了，就开始攻击他，说他社会层次低………\n再说喜交所6500名真实用户也被联盟、农场及喜交所介绍的律师盖尔Geyer律师误导，被检方改用RICO法案起诉已被逮捕的文贵。盖尔Geyer律师在获得大量喜交所用户真实信息后偷梁换柱，企图把这些登记人变成文贵刑事案的受害者。盖尔晚节不保，他严重、明显犯罪！在所有打着爱郭的旗号、暗地里害七哥的“爱郭贼”当中最坏的是小羊！小羊帮在收割最后一批韭菜！\n这一切的布局的总指挥是谁？文贵是我一生中所了解的人中最最善良的人，他对所有这些人都无私仇，他们为什么要害他？………，😂\n\nLuc 作为文贵的 Trustee (财产受托人) 也是一个重要证人，他居然没有出庭作证。Luc 可不是一个省油的灯。首先他不是文贵自己请来的、想要的人选，而且他与中国有大量的业务。说通俗点，Luc从中共掌权和控制的大陆收到了巨大的财富和利益，而文贵是中共最大的敌人，这不是明显利益冲突吗？这么滑稽的事也会发生在美国？用螺丝哥的话来说，Luc 执有宇宙追杀令，也就是说，文贵申请破产后 Luc 可以在全球范围内追讨到所有跟文贵申请破产之前有财产关系的人。两年多的时间过去了，他找到了任何一个与文贵有财产纠纷、来往的人吗？而我们所看到的却是 Luc 接受了无毛的豆豆、小福利的老公的姐姐龚足(竹) 这几个虚假的债权人登记。Luc 违法在先。后来文贵在直播中调侃式地说其他人也可以去效仿呀。结果当时的联盟秘书长老班长立刻乘机通过农场鼓动大家都去搞债权人登记，后来的法庭文件也显示有一千多人 (具体数据不详) 进行了债权人登记，而且这些所谓的债权人要求赔偿的数额也严重夸大、造假，其中的一个大家熟悉的、一直以挺郭形象出现的理发师要求财产赔偿达22亿美金；前枫叶农场的农场主飞翔的小鸟也在债权人登记的名单上，金额也是巨大的。这一切虚假的、严重抛高的数据导致这一千多登记了的债权人总的索赔金额超过1000亿美金。Luc 在最近的法庭文件上显示他主动下调他的索赔金额从一千多亿降到了一个零头数字。他吃自己拉出去的屎。😂\n\n郭被抓及立案成立的基础就是Luc 跟联盟、农场，包括老班长明着暗着、连蒙带骗搞岀来的1000多个债权人又是G系列的主要受害人，虽然G系列后来被定为无罪，但是之前及当时被抓的逻辑是文贵掌控着G系列。\n这本身就是程序不正义。况且Luc的那一堆也是一个烂摊子，有一大堆的程序不正义，包括债权人绝大多数被误导，有一些是故意栽桩陷害、夸大金额，Luc的那一块也必须被打掉，被告律师可以要求举行一个听证会，Luc 必须作证。一旦Luc这块被打掉，案件就会被撤了。\n只是螺丝哥写了一句本不该是他写的话而被法官抓住。我们小老百姓的一点点程序不正义就会被抓出来痛批或者受到更严厉的惩罚。😂\n如果有更复杂的一步，那就是文贵的案件重新审理和开庭做 trial。到时候谁还会相信Q妹及联盟那一套骗术，真战友都会自己亲自去看庭审现场，而不是被新老联盟代表、控制庭审过程报道的话语权。\n(欢迎大家更正、补充。多谢🙏)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24d6f0f4328ede74b544","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q45eb1cd250c40ddee9b5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":228,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-20T05:29:56.239Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/1935931048413872255?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45eb1cd250c40ddee9b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5c579e194776deba1ec9","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":229,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-20T05:55:06.512Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1935939215948415135?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c579e194776deba1ec9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q9459457967a832cdd53f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":230,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-20T05:56:24.361Z","text":"我特别希望抬杠。漫不惊心，也和瑞恩互动了。我没有给他贴标签。我问的就是国会请愿书哪里正确！我没有看到然后可能性，没有看到任何正面作用！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9459457967a832cdd53f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qee4c9a272674f835a58b","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":231,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-20T06:40:31.735Z","text":"是该汇总一下，太散乱了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81a56f2a5ff54e321736","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4c9a272674f835a58b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81a56f2a5ff54e321736","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q9fe8a85746a30cc5be56","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":232,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T06:40:57.066Z","text":"和债权人相关的我觉得很清晰","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee4c9a272674f835a58b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fe8a85746a30cc5be56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4c9a272674f835a58b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb5f64c2ba1ea3e68e66e","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":233,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-20T06:42:13.661Z","text":"你是当事人，我就搞不清楚，就像喜交所，你搞不清楚一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fe8a85746a30cc5be56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5f64c2ba1ea3e68e66e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fe8a85746a30cc5be56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5183629bb1b5df598b62","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":234,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T06:42:27.827Z","text":"哦 那倒是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5183629bb1b5df598b62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q823414dd5765bb1fd086","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":235,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T06:42:43.803Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］  ［用户 chu***］  ［用户 sar***］  ［用户 him***］  我想起一件事 你们帮忙分析一下","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q823414dd5765bb1fd086","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5fcf0436bf94dc122a94","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":236,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T06:43:05.370Z","text":"我想起来庭审之前 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我彻底明白了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb4e1dc9227769581669","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb7e6a2bd1bf667ef86bf","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":268,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T08:04:16.283Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 这帮逼 就是要抢老郭的钱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7e6a2bd1bf667ef86bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6e9aa4a15dac0226b848","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":269,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T08:04:39.582Z","text":"为了破产案拿债权 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853n啊。我也是昨天才明确发现853n肯定不会被当成受害者的，以前我以为853n也可以被当成受害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39013c9d0d663e1a45ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q78f641e34fb2a2e896cf","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":307,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-20T23:53:39.727Z","text":"引用什么条款都一样，拿钱的前提就是判刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78f641e34fb2a2e896cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf0aa57976877fd605509","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":308,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-20T23:53:42.691Z","text":"盖尔绝对有问题啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0aa57976877fd605509","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q06db8672ba5ad716e428","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":309,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T23:53:52.644Z","text":"我觉得盖儿不是去要钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06db8672ba5ad716e428","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf0a6f75320358484217f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":310,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-20T23:53:57.615Z","text":"是去给老郭加刑的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0a6f75320358484217f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc0d5020fb58f69259abd","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":311,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-20T23:54:08.497Z","text":"不不，853n不是受害者，只要你不承认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0d5020fb58f69259abd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q7eaf63df6c1f99a78e2a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":312,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-20T23:56:37.179Z","text":"我以前也以为853n和CVRA对检方来说是一样的，但是现在看来不是，如果你在动议里说你不是受害者，他们不能强迫你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eaf63df6c1f99a78e2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd9bcad7ebf0983cff1b8","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":313,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-20T23:57:10.951Z","text":"所以盖尔应该引用853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9bcad7ebf0983cff1b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qce34bf1259228720931f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":314,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-20T23:57:32.664Z","text":"他引用CVRA是有问题的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce34bf1259228720931f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1c5f69c82dbe9a314e1a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":315,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-20T23:59:29.798Z","text":"我到现在还没有自己亲自去看过法律文件，主要是因为不知道怎么开始。有谁可以发链接给我吗？人都是有惰性的。也是一种习惯。某种生活方式习惯了就不太愿意去改变。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c5f69c82dbe9a314e1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q3a8e2ff37f6fbc480717","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":316,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T00:01:30.217Z","text":"坏人常常比好人更勤快。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a8e2ff37f6fbc480717","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q0aa8b0324bbae172c690","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":317,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T00:03:05.286Z","text":"坏人做的恶事罄竹难书。好人甚至懒得去答理它们，自然就不会把它们做的恶事记录下来。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0aa8b0324bbae172c690","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf35304d13e3239c635a8","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":318,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T00:04:09.352Z","text":"盖尔如果引用853n，他要钱的地位就降低了。受害者的地位是高于853n的吧，从要钱的角度讲。所以他就是欺诈。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"rep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你耍流氓 大家都可以耍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66996575aa2706542e2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd91fcb27655888fe2b01","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":344,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T03:37:13.545Z","text":"然后大家真的都耍了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd91fcb27655888fe2b01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6d6c8cd14a97446583b6","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":345,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T03:37:24.673Z","text":"债权人就永远都不合法了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d6c8cd14a97446583b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q261f5803587f26838579","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":346,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T03:38:29.866Z","text":"老郭估计也没想到 他鼓动债权人 会被对方在刑事案用到极致","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q261f5803587f26838579","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q7b9fa6936873b494d106","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":347,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T03:39:56.022Z","text":"他就说一句也构成犯罪？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b9fa6936873b494d106","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd68b1c744e62bfcbbe51","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":348,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T03:40:26.662Z","text":"对啊 就是耍流氓啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7b9fa6936873b494d106","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd68b1c744e62bfcbbe51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b9fa6936873b494d106","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1d7018cb4e46a9727fcf","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":349,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-21T04:04:19.898Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1936225952054624531?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d7018cb4e46a9727fcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb3e0b3bdf7d3638ec825","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":350,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-21T04:15:08.641Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1936276591304491111?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3e0b3bdf7d3638ec825","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q96df593c6847c5b4cd7c","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":351,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T04:51:02.926Z","text":"不说别的，光文贵这句话：“你们都去当债权人”，这个句话本身可以构成“干扰司法”吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa65bc8b3230d9a9a313f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96df593c6847c5b4cd7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q9c2db4d255e774fa06e5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":352,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T04:54:04.249Z","text":"上诉法庭判的,无论合不合理,都是事实了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c2db4d255e774fa06e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q15f3c62876c7adf575ad","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":353,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T04:54:38.755Z","text":"就像螺丝哥说的 既然老郭让我们尊重司法 法官的命令就必须服从","edited":false,"reply_to":"q96df593c6847c5b4cd7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15f3c62876c7adf575ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96df593c6847c5b4cd7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf7ae740631579fa5217a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":354,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T04:54:53.863Z","text":"但是 赛翁失马 焉知非福？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7ae740631579fa5217a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6a93df3b4a6187a184fa","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":355,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T04:55:07.430Z","text":"这个干扰司法可是给我们翻案留下了更多空间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a93df3b4a6187a184fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q0a531d2c64096da6b8ff","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":356,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T05:09:23.832Z","text":"哦。我算懂多了一点，进了一步。多谢各位的提点。\n好吧，这样的话，它们的债权人登记就是不合法。这些假的债仅人也不能当受害人了。实际上受害人就不存在。明白了。😂\n文贵本来是从不碰法律红线的。这次他故意引火烧身。他知道这帮家伙接下去会怎样做。但是到底谁玩谁现在还不知道呢。他在玩火、他在钓鱼，并以他自己为诱饵。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a531d2c64096da6b8ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q7ebc67492ca4dd02a2a2","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":357,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T05:11:58.384Z","text":"我现在好像把最后一个难点搞通了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ebc67492ca4dd02a2a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q72a5bdde0e600e2339e2","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":358,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-21T05:30:57.959Z","text":"再补充一下 债权人登记的人 如果同样作为刑事案受害者 由于他债权人资格被质疑 那么同样的 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ntp***］  你去问问他们怎么证明 “它们是CCP的人”？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb03249cd13de6c6abf70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd8f647993d1ddec57c48","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":387,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T13:48:46.934Z","text":"要是真能证明那些人是CCP的人，这个案子不就结束了，还用羊群他们行动吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8f647993d1ddec57c48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q72ebd34383557697dbba","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":388,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-21T13:53:52.900Z","text":"他们在聊啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb03249cd13de6c6abf70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72ebd34383557697dbba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb03249cd13de6c6abf70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qa93729c84ba5465ecf73","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":389,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-21T13:54:27.728Z","text":"羊群都是这德行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa93729c84ba5465ecf73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q56b65c85f75daa78d2cf","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":390,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T13:55:53.165Z","text":"他们就是在聊现在最好啥都别干，不要添乱，然后要证明联盟都是CCP的人，还有打掉luc啥用没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b65c85f75daa78d2cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q109d4243c87bca16dd21","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":391,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-21T13:56:53.434Z","text":"不想跟它们逼逼了，没用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q109d4243c87bca16dd21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q576be02810a3aa442474","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":392,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-21T13:57:02.161Z","text":"来回那几个货","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q576be02810a3aa442474","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q0d9aad21b3b1b6b0ca37","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":393,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T14:17:04.135Z","text":"郭应该会赢，他赢了之后，你怎么办，应该会没事儿吧，别想那么多。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1507f4432698d206aa7d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d9aad21b3b1b6b0ca37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb3e77a0d9566aa295b30","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":394,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T14:17:37.474Z","text":"未来的事儿不用想那么多, 专注眼前的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3e77a0d9566aa295b30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q4affd23340eceb13441a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":395,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T15:08:46.017Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ ［用户 sar***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa47b0ed3903b396820ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4affd23340eceb13441a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa47b0ed3903b396820ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qac3d7d182829b215ff5f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":396,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-21T15:58:51.384Z","text":"你们谁给发一下呗，我发肯定就被踢出羊群了😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf401fe706abfccac28d9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac3d7d182829b215ff5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q32098be747f91d5c5ec4","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":397,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-21T16:16:15.581Z","text":"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gNQlnWQegqDhX6ilMi95ix2toOUPRoO9/view?usp=sharing \n这个是小羊说要找律师又说律师没用放一块了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32098be747f91d5c5ec4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc734339c08374fef31a5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":398,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-21T16:33:42.837Z","text":"我发了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc734339c08374fef31a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd3fd8beddc2ff4cff3f4","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":399,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T16:46:36.947Z","text":"可是当时文贵还没有被判干扰司法呀？那帮人怎么立刻就有气死的反应呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15f3c62876c7adf575ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3fd8beddc2ff4cff3f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15f3c62876c7adf575ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q69f942bc4a31160862c5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":400,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-21T16:51:18.270Z","text":"我不觉得小羊有多帅，也不觉得螺丝哥形象不如小羊。螺丝哥真实。小羊是披着羊皮的狼。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q764145d08ceebe0ebb6c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69f942bc4a31160862c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q764145d08ceebe0ebb6c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000009","next_batch_id":"batch-000011"}