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委员回去反对pax和解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5799779fc44626b12f01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1d2b8b8c2096b89b08d5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":803,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T16:53:26.331Z","text":"他们有权利反对吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d2b8b8c2096b89b08d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd4e816666ac0ebeda2e5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":804,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:53:34.001Z","text":"有的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4e816666ac0ebeda2e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q46d51818e91ddd456ae1","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":805,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T16:53:39.951Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46d51818e91ddd456ae1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q51a18ba087568082cefa","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":806,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:55:08.459Z","text":"委员会嘛 就是债权人的代表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51a18ba087568082cefa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qa8568fa7c2b425671856","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":807,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:55:13.619Z","text":"我代表反对和解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8568fa7c2b425671856","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5e197632572d87ca142f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":808,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:55:24.951Z","text":"那没话说啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e197632572d87ca142f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q54649a504216183f925a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":809,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T16:55:56.100Z","text":"可是他们只是hkck啊，不是整个破产案的，他们和pax有关系吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54649a504216183f925a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q551a9fbfebcd01b9d38a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":810,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:56:09.658Z","text":"hchk就是pax和老郭的纠纷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q551a9fbfebcd01b9d38a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6e843f1a55fac9305982","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":811,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:56:14.625Z","text":"不是破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e843f1a55fac9305982","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd105758650468ac3b545","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":812,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:56:36.093Z","text":"pax属于子安检","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd105758650468ac3b545","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q3fdef6cbebf6d24d3c0f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":813,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T16:56:39.095Z","text":"案件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fdef6cbebf6d24d3c0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q7b07bdb6b7ec2b9ce451","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":814,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T17:03:15.860Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b07bdb6b7ec2b9ce451","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qad5d401042d96656d70c","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":815,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-23T17:51:02.107Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/1937206476331974709?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad5d401042d96656d70c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb8938b72a4e47f5ff437","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":816,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-23T17:51:50.101Z","text":"原来的那个删了，这个是新的，重发。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8938b72a4e47f5ff437","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q37c6876f83c1a82fb95d","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":817,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T18:08:05.824Z","text":"截图去羊群骂丫的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a04aadc8a49efa32e2c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37c6876f83c1a82fb95d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a04aadc8a49efa32e2c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6987892f6f2a445be3ce","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":818,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T18:08:10.842Z","text":"有截图吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/me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ntp***］  靠你了哈哈视频这方面我不行","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d8507c7603a04d0633d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6ff713d94c531398a429","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":827,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T18:19:12.380Z","text":"1：24：00到1：26：00之间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ff713d94c531398a429","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q0ef47ad2250c711ef80f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":828,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T18:27:39.242Z","text":"我去看看","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a8085e1e78a421ca2e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ef47ad2250c711ef80f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a8085e1e78a421ca2e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q79333b0c4e3d9f7db22e","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":829,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T18:31:20.566Z","text":"1️⃣https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lse4k3Rr_1CA5JuWIndYnzLwku6zhmaz/view?usp=drivesdk\n2️⃣ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CtHpD2Dz6Liw8_y-UuFSEJR8DsnAT0yc/view?usp=drivesdk\n3️⃣ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mS7_4U6syqPR8VJJD7bAv0y16mmjSgdI/view?usp=drivesdk\n4️⃣ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yDuE_OBOS73rih0AFXlTxnJFkNrsxce4/view?usp=drivesdk\n今天做的几个喜和语音的视频，有劳大伙儿发起来啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79333b0c4e3d9f7db22e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd25788692889b91a91f8","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":830,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T18:31:31.782Z","text":"他说战友们也都是自愿填表的，我靠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd25788692889b91a91f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qcba36f735418ba1f1a49","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":831,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T18:31:40.527Z","text":"太不要脸了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba36f735418ba1f1a49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q75cfcd4999977e0b1f1b","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":832,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T18:31:45.525Z","text":"我昨天咋没听到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75cfcd4999977e0b1f1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc3b5df8db8aaa664e0f8","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":833,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T18:32:06.905Z","text":"就是在1：24：00到1：26：00之间开始的那段","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3b5df8db8aaa664e0f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qba882600a4cade561ae9","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":834,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T18:33:33.989Z","text":"正在看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba882600a4cade561ae9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q73336067e06371896a6b","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":835,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-23T18:40:48.784Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/1937219195294638155?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73336067e06371896a6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1c3cb5bc46937f364042","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":836,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-06-23T18:50:11.164Z","text":"放tm狗屁，战友自愿害七哥？\n只有伪类和灭爆组才是自愿登记去害七哥的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd25788692889b91a91f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c3cb5bc46937f364042","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd25788692889b91a91f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q8992ee9a8a6ed9a2c7f1","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":837,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T18:56:41.911Z","text":"明明不是郭的债权人，去填债权人不是非法的吗？不撤销才是伪证吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8992ee9a8a6ed9a2c7f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q694ef13a1ff559fe8546","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":838,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T18:57:01.402Z","text":"对啊 哈哈 这个逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8992ee9a8a6ed9a2c7f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q694ef13a1ff559fe8546","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8992ee9a8a6ed9a2c7f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1c870bc4f61342e71e49","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":839,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-06-23T18:57:07.754Z","text":"债权人还宣誓，简直胡扯。\n这就跟上庭起诉一个道理，我可以委托也可以撤销委托。\n撤销委托，不代表我放弃权益或者撒谎。更谈不上宣誓什么的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcda5d3c16e3ea4409e23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c870bc4f61342e71e49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda5d3c16e3ea4409e23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q087ca8a062dc42e0a884","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":840,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T18:57:45.609Z","text":"就像我之前的视频里说的：如果撤销就是作伪证 那法院给你开这个口子撤销干什么？ 钓鱼让你作伪证被抓？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q087ca8a062dc42e0a884","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf173aafe5e9275a6e2b9","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":841,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-06-23T18:57:58.648Z","text":"而且当初的委托前提，也根本不是用于害七哥的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf173aafe5e9275a6e2b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q115a8ece48d37bc63664","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":842,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:02:38.755Z","text":"https://x.com/xiaoyangshiping/status/1937224423947534681?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q115a8ece48d37bc63664","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5bef2a4a12da8811e7e9","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":843,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:02:53.208Z","text":"哈哈 小羊受到重大打击","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bef2a4a12da8811e7e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q29633dc0d9f88fa9bff0","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":844,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:03:08.236Z","text":"想着去伪联盟摇更多人撑场面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29633dc0d9f88fa9bff0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q0b9ddf93f46305375408","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":845,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-23T19:09:09.230Z","text":"小羊一直播就是3-4个小时，绕圈子，里面的漏洞、胡说八道的东西很多，但是因为视频太长，让你不容易找回来。这家伙就是在玩超限战。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c3cb5bc46937f364042","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b9ddf93f46305375408","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c3cb5bc46937f364042","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q9dad13bbebf89bc8fca7","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":846,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:14:34.502Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge2/status/1937227715729588585?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dad13bbebf89bc8fca7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qbb482741deac9a7cbe29","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":847,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-06-23T19:17:24.351Z","text":"一条是之前参与七哥案件的都是灭爆的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb482741deac9a7cbe29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qae89d3032d765d9b7a2f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":848,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-06-23T19:18:13.679Z","text":"我之前在新老联盟里都说过\n结果是被踢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae89d3032d765d9b7a2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q74e8eebc4e41b693cdab","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":849,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:32:03.569Z","text":"［用户 rui***］  ［用户 chu***］  小羊说的确实提醒了我，起诉luc什么呢？他获得trustee程序不正义这个债权人有资格投诉吗？他接受高比例索赔，可大部分债权人都是高比例索赔啊，这个也是联盟忽悠的，不是luc。七哥号召的是起诉他作伪证，起诉他调查债权人是种族歧视，这个跟目前的债权人关系不大吧，那到底起诉他什么呢？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q43688708c924c50bc696","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74e8eebc4e41b693cdab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43688708c924c50bc696","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc2c6a6d82be9ba1bcf6f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":850,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:37:20.488Z","text":"如果是单独起诉luc, 我能想出两个原因：1.首先是他先接受了拱族他几个假债权人，郭被裁定非法，luc也非法。2.luc没有审查登记债权人的人，，至少是失职","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74e8eebc4e41b693cdab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2c6a6d82be9ba1bcf6f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74e8eebc4e41b693cdab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qcda6d6c5515ad84d5fd2","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":851,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:38:40.671Z","text":"如果是作为第三方，他那些债权人涉嫌虚假索赔。他的债权人是联盟农场鼓动的，联盟农场是共谋犯，他的债权人登记涉嫌共谋转移财产。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda6d6c5515ad84d5fd2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf7dc7d49ad058a9a986a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":852,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:38:54.703Z","text":"问题是他失职 你被骗 你确实是被骗 但你起诉他什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2c6a6d82be9ba1bcf6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7dc7d49ad058a9a986a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2c6a6d82be9ba1bcf6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qbaff7716fb87cfc4d016","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":853,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:38:57.327Z","text":"精神损失？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbaff7716fb87cfc4d016","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q52de153e9e97f51c87c7","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":854,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:39:19.755Z","text":"你骗了我 我很伤心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52de153e9e97f51c87c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5668cd89954d43f88de0","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":855,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:39:22.937Z","text":"这样？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5668cd89954d43f88de0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q81d9220989d186f5a975","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":856,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:39:39.893Z","text":"这个有点贼喊捉贼，因为债权人的金额都有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2c6a6d82be9ba1bcf6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81d9220989d186f5a975","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2c6a6d82be9ba1bcf6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1fdf0bb6696669929075","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":857,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:40:06.401Z","text":"这个比较靠谱，但是在视频里没法体现，也没人提过这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcda6d6c5515ad84d5fd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fdf0bb6696669929075","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda6d6c5515ad84d5fd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q26061c76f1b11658e216","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":858,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:40:58.675Z","text":"不过小羊说的也没错 倒是可以起诉luc 作为一个监督的案件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26061c76f1b11658e216","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q4e2d910b448e1c0ffa5b","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":859,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:41:01.621Z","text":"Luc一开始就不能接受拱族他们，他如果不失职的话，他就应该把拱族踢出去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81d9220989d186f5a975","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e2d910b448e1c0ffa5b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81d9220989d186f5a975","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qdf75e79b2b16939d9b18","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":860,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:41:04.049Z","text":"喜和好像有一段说过，我就是打luc不让他抢我的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf75e79b2b16939d9b18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q22c8c18f29db9e1dac54","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":861,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:41:13.611Z","text":"我起诉luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22c8c18f29db9e1dac54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q09a5dde6cae911fdcbec","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":862,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:41:25.247Z","text":"失职","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09a5dde6cae911fdcbec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q7d21ff52996e899b5333","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":863,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:41:27.044Z","text":"Luc接受了拱族他们，就是非法的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d21ff52996e899b5333","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6457c9a16e0656dad8ec","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":864,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:41:33.065Z","text":"不核查债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6457c9a16e0656dad8ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5e2533874f9a7e4bfd21","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":865,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:41:58.258Z","text":"导致我的登记可能直接作用于郭被捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e2533874f9a7e4bfd21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q329b53b55d7524140439","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":866,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:42:02.225Z","text":"我不知道你能不能起诉luc，郭应该可以","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q329b53b55d7524140439","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q316e3af27d2502f8e145","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":867,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:42:12.428Z","text":"要起诉luc 追究我的道德自我谴责的责任","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q316e3af27d2502f8e145","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q2ea3220fe8034ae7bad6","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":868,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:42:32.990Z","text":"单独起诉就没法帮七哥翻案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ea3220fe8034ae7bad6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1fb04c90567d553624fe","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":869,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:42:35.157Z","text":"这些天我天天上网骂人 精神状态失常","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fb04c90567d553624fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q885a0b0230e23c712c44","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":870,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:42:44.895Z","text":"你如果作为G系列投资者，第三方动议质疑luc虚假索赔是可以的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q885a0b0230e23c712c44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6c4063cfad291883886e","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":871,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:42:46.589Z","text":"对的 就是一个监督的案件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ea3220fe8034ae7bad6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c4063cfad291883886e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ea3220fe8034ae7bad6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q667f35400bfd0fb35abe","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":872,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:42:49.591Z","text":"那是另外一条线了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667f35400bfd0fb35abe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5c00f7262263ec251bde","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":873,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:43:00.412Z","text":"一条支线","edited":false,"reply_to":"q667f35400bfd0fb35abe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c00f7262263ec251bde","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667f35400bfd0fb35abe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc5a08c2944e82bd7e880","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":874,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:43:05.051Z","text":"小羊避重就轻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5a08c2944e82bd7e880","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q9b431c7e75a09433d386","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":875,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:43:16.301Z","text":"我觉得我可以起诉luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b431c7e75a09433d386","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q03de83f12679a34800d9","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":876,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:43:29.318Z","text":"但肯定也要在主案件里呈现这些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03de83f12679a34800d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q30cd282fc48ab642d5d9","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":877,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:43:32.045Z","text":"双管齐下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30cd282fc48ab642d5d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q5f5e85b766d4735024a4","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":878,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:43:41.445Z","text":"又给我们指了一条路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f5e85b766d4735024a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb9895d94e1b96ba391a9","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":879,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:43:50.298Z","text":"老子要luc赔偿一百万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9895d94e1b96ba391a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1422ffe90f6f4b527a76","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":880,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:45:42.243Z","text":"等等，有点散了，现在的主要目的是在七哥刑事案里打掉luc的债权人登记，而且目前来看只有第三方介入着一种渠道，还只能提跟钱相关的，那问题来了，针对luc能起诉他啥？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1422ffe90f6f4b527a76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qbddc5e816d0ee7c18a30","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":881,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:46:18.074Z","text":"去看螺丝哥动议好像是524，他要检方刑事调查luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbddc5e816d0ee7c18a30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q2aeb2405b817fd5a8097","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":882,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:46:33.628Z","text":"动议524都是关于luc的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aeb2405b817fd5a8097","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q2615275220521e464edf","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":883,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:46:40.621Z","text":"这个好像被法官视为越权了吧","edited":false,"re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 1: 让luc公布郭的被捕到底有没有和虚假登记有关2: 如果有关 请在主案件撤销虚假登记 并赔偿我精神损失费","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1422ffe90f6f4b527a76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b571cab5a32cc2fc759","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1422ffe90f6f4b527a76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf2785255c4c4b10c7bc1","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":886,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:47:42.971Z","text":"并且我可以在主案件三方动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2785255c4c4b10c7bc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q0df991c8e91c994abf68","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":887,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:47:47.906Z","text":"我已经起诉了luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0df991c8e91c994abf68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q288ebdf498ed87f5af93","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":888,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:47:51.381Z","text":"作为旁证","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q288ebdf498ed87f5af93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd993e9c00aee72d735ca","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":889,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:48:07.268Z","text":"说明luc程序不合法 必须撤掉债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd993e9c00aee72d735ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q39c50dd946c50503b1f5","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":890,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:49:04.251Z","text":"要不是他瞎逼逼 怎么可能把我们越养越肥 哈哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c50dd946c50503b1f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb55b8d446136330eea8c","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":891,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:49:20.822Z","text":"到时候我的起诉可以和你们打配合 你们可以三方动议 引用我的案子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55b8d446136330eea8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qe0b23a20884ebf95bced","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":892,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:50:00.642Z","text":"法官驳回螺丝哥的原因是，他提到了私人事务，有威胁检方和受害者的言语，发动议太多了占用司法资源。也没具体说是针对那个动议，反正所有动议全部驳回。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2615275220521e464edf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0b23a20884ebf95bced","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2615275220521e464edf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q1754d3835c6f6d53d8f7","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":893,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:50:09.869Z","text":"这就是逆增上缘","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39c50dd946c50503b1f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1754d3835c6f6d53d8f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c50dd946c50503b1f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q07626c49ec7bae0a431e","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":894,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:50:43.780Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1754d3835c6f6d53d8f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07626c49ec7bae0a431e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1754d3835c6f6d53d8f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qe0a1fb18d2621d015df7","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":895,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:51:13.425Z","text":"哦对，法官还说了一个原因，就是螺丝哥不是检方和郭王余四个人，无权参与此案。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2615275220521e464edf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a1fb18d2621d015df7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2615275220521e464edf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qe5902e399353a0d6feb2","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":896,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:51:47.494Z","text":"这个原因，我也不太理解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5902e399353a0d6feb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qae0c6f476abd954019bb","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":897,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:52:09.081Z","text":"可能是因为他说了一些和钱无关的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae0c6f476abd954019bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qe0adc5a70b24c5d691f6","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":898,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:52:33.512Z","text":"Lic没法证明被捕和登记有没有关系，这个是检方的操作，就像盖尔的客户被检方定为受害人，他也说不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b571cab5a32cc2fc759","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0adc5a70b24c5d691f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b571cab5a32cc2fc759","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q72b9b802565fe8b7996b","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":899,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T19:53:33.703Z","text":"喜和是第三方的身份，他只能说跟他相关而且是跟他的利益相关的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0a1fb18d2621d015df7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72b9b802565fe8b7996b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a1fb18d2621d015df7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q467d8b8371e0901e8fde","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":900,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:54:03.451Z","text":"如果当时法官是一个动议一个动议判，不是所有动议全部驳回，我估计螺丝哥有几个动议，应该是符合853n 的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q467d8b8371e0901e8fde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf51c205bb85fb1b4a230","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":901,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:54:28.150Z","text":"哦 na dao sh","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0adc5a70b24c5d691f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf51c205bb85fb1b4a230","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0adc5a70b24c5d691f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qbab92adf878515effbb0","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":902,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T19:54:30.308Z","text":"那倒是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbab92adf878515effbb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qbe76d08652371c23291f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":903,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:55:30.126Z","text":"但是如果法官没有驳回螺丝哥的动议，这个案子也就结束了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe76d08652371c23291f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qb2fce9dfc600d99e3b35","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":904,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T19:55:39.061Z","text":"所以驳回是肯定的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2fce9dfc600d99e3b35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd4a3722c3bababb2d9e8","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":905,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T20:00:45.106Z","text":"所以昨天小羊点炮了，这个问题的确要认真考虑一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a3722c3bababb2d9e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q7d06ad554ab43d10245c","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":906,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T20:01:29.681Z","text":"乍一看好像都有理，细一想又好像无话可说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d06ad554ab43d10245c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qa8c4cc1e56223186eb7f","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":907,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T20:03:23.224Z","text":"你去起诉Luc本人就是失职和共谋犯合作转移财产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8c4cc1e56223186eb7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q37215b673b37c0e5868a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":908,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T20:03:35.995Z","text":"他的债权人登记就是虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37215b673b37c0e5868a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q51ba80aca4e035fde976","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":909,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T20:04:25.126Z","text":"不要脱离七哥案，单独起诉正中他们下怀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51ba80aca4e035fde976","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q196f5d81c0db6463ce62","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":910,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T20:06:17.951Z","text":"目前能想到的就是luc的债权人是虚假索赔，作为投资人我不允许这些人动我的投资，请法官把债权人和luc逐出七哥案，他们没有资格分这些钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcda6d6c5515ad84d5fd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q196f5d81c0db6463ce62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda6d6c5515ad84d5fd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q96689e5cc32afd304370","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":911,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T20:09:18.855Z","text":"他是虚假索赔，而且他那些债权人是联盟农场共谋犯鼓动登记的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q196f5d81c0db6463ce62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96689e5cc32afd304370","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q196f5d81c0db6463ce62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q3bd61221b7bc4b9c51c4","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":912,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:11:40.792Z","text":"我觉得要等这个案件明确了债权人就是七哥被捕的关键","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bd61221b7bc4b9c51c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q81a5ac2820cba61a4e36","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":913,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:11:44.195Z","text":"再去起诉luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81a5ac2820cba61a4e36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q94ab3873cc6ce6f2bf5e","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":914,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:11:46.913Z","text":"才有必要","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94ab3873cc6ce6f2bf5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd5b28acc02aefa7c6316","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":915,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:12:00.378Z","text":"说明你的失职让我们背上了骂名","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5b28acc02aefa7c6316","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q6692b786339695dde22a","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":916,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T20:13:07.539Z","text":"那是以后的事情了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6692b786339695dde22a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q708f62d398314dfcd1b6","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":917,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T20:13:27.266Z","text":"起诉luc那是以后的事情，肯定不会放过他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q708f62d398314dfcd1b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qf7fa47c3e6abd1fe25ff","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":918,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:19:04.583Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7fa47c3e6abd1fe25ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qee45c428ac0f7cc9d4b2","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":919,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:19:12.257Z","text":"现在起诉 说实话 用处不大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee45c428ac0f7cc9d4b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q3cb9ed6631958d2ee05c","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":920,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-06-23T20:38:42.998Z","text":"现在就是怎么用第三方身份去打债权人登记","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cb9ed6631958d2ee05c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qbc620b9153e5c7d52011","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":921,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:47:33.728Z","text":"这个其实螺丝哥已经成功了 已经有了1 我们上去就是添0","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc620b9153e5c7d52011","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qda7e81f5ad05f141d8a3","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":922,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:47:50.585Z","text":"我刚刚又发了一封信给律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda7e81f5ad05f141d8a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q65e8c8db893c83067b44","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":923,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:47:57.583Z","text":"催他开luc的听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8c8db893c83067b44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qd3836121ddebfcb1f0b8","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":924,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-23T20:51:07.655Z","text":"你这样不行啊，瑞恩小哥。树大招风，你这么不低调，小心被蓝金黄呀！再说你又不见得有郭文贵抵挡诱惑的能力。见到漂亮女孩就乱了方寸。😂😝🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9dad13bbebf89bc8fca7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3836121ddebfcb1f0b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dad13bbebf89bc8fca7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qc005fadb71ee529e62af","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":925,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-06-23T20:51:52.998Z","text":"哈哈哈哈 共产党蓝金黄不了我 我对妹子标准有我的要求 共产党绝对摸不透我的标准🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3836121ddebfcb1f0b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc005fadb71ee529e62af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3836121ddebfcb1f0b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q96dae281e79947de0688","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":926,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-06-23T20:58:18.287Z","text":"你挑逗的微蓝、Qmay, 也许再加上那个万人迷，人家专业干这一行的，万一人家真的来应招，你可别当怂包哈。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc005fadb71ee529e62af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96dae281e79947de0688","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc005fadb71ee529e62af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"qff8e8915624d496f3603","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":927,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-06-23T21:04:44.745Z","text":"Sarah说的对，哈哈😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff8e8915624d496f3603","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000010"},{"id":"q86fe44df50b75e348dc2","batch_id":"batch-000010","seq":928,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-06-23T23:35:47.608Z","text":"对，告诉律师，为什么悄无声息把第十三个罪名取消了 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