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噼里啪啦？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13e13ae0abe998855ce4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4b6a5c9d7efcc9f28d3b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":206,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:13:51.653Z","text":"我在 了解 皮匠前。也认识了 噼里啪啦。当年我被面具踢出农场 他拉我进 法农 小皮匠 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满足条件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc057ac6e874775226a1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0fc234cdd891c7d9ad27","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":219,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:23:55.167Z","text":"农场主都是穷逼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fc234cdd891c7d9ad27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0c1d17b8853af969e9f2","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":220,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:24:16.461Z","text":"她最后用的是战友的钱，投资在她名下的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c1d17b8853af969e9f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3d9142f08fdc4940a190","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":221,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:25:31.802Z","text":"你在法农，法农服务器里经常骂我你知道吗😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d9142f08fdc4940a190","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0d2e47aeb67f581fee95","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":222,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:25:56.818Z","text":"我不在法农。没进去过。马后炮不让我进","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d9142f08fdc4940a190","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d2e47aeb67f581fee95","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d9142f08fdc4940a190","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4fc3f556f256f20a0c0e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":223,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:27:22.447Z","text":"我如果是自己要去 法农。她不通过我还不会醒，我是噼里啪啦 说自己是老椅子，他做保，非要我进。  结果 还不让进。我就发现不对劲了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc3f556f256f20a0c0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q11f6e96ce9db9ae52b1d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":224,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:30:45.395Z","text":"我教你们非常好识别这群海外华人骗子。露脸的都是穷逼，因为他们没有能力 靠自己本事在海外赚钱，只能领ccp的钱 干这个活 包括民运。他们搞不懂美国各种运作系统 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11f6e96ce9db9ae52b1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q448ec0df9937f2f6c5dc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":225,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:31:43.750Z","text":"长岛 一句英文都不会😂 你相信这样一个能力的人 在美国为你赚钱？？😂你傻还是他傻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q448ec0df9937f2f6c5dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa8a2f2633cba08fe1f2d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":226,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:32:00.026Z","text":"我本来想露脸直播来着，给你这么一说不敢露脸了直播也不敢了😹😹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8a2f2633cba08fe1f2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6623f1cd4d890bb5b07d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":227,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:35:36.313Z","text":"露脸骂ccp 一定会被家访！ 你能像这群网红一样一直骂ccp 不被家访。说明领了ccp 钱。然后领ccp钱的一定是穷逼 在海外否则混不下去","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8a2f2633cba08fe1f2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6623f1cd4d890bb5b07d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8a2f2633cba08fe1f2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4edd7c1d0452f4e6e3eb","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":228,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:36:10.521Z","text":"我不露脸骂已经被家访了两次了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4edd7c1d0452f4e6e3eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q04e2e0b8837b624055ad","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":229,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:36:25.906Z","text":"之前在GTV上直播时","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04e2e0b8837b624055ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6c81658971eb926e59b5","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":230,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:36:26.275Z","text":"我就是这套逻辑，也许你是例外。但并不会打破我的判断","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c81658971eb926e59b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0963717ddd683bf58648","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":231,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:37:12.240Z","text":"所以从那天开始我就知道没好鸟……😹😹😹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0963717ddd683bf58648","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q708acdd9f40698475090","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":232,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T16:40:24.016Z","text":"早建这个群，我们可以少走弯路。\n对以前的喜币交流群，我是直到去年8月才识破真相的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q708acdd9f40698475090","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q86b7f54a91255d23d916","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":233,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:41:02.951Z","text":"现在如果你入外国国籍了，回国基本没有问题，不然回去就关了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86b7f54a91255d23d916","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q53048af991db47f7dbf9","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":234,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:41:15.313Z","text":"啥意思？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86b7f54a91255d23d916","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53048af991db47f7dbf9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86b7f54a91255d23d916","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q03048c9ce85fcfd0fb94","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":235,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:41:28.527Z","text":"我美国护照已经被灭爆小组拿到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03048c9ce85fcfd0fb94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2d041cf9dc9d28e2cff4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":236,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:41:32.420Z","text":"然后我还能回国？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d041cf9dc9d28e2cff4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9242b5efb0456382f334","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":237,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:41:48.928Z","text":"美国人民，没问题的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9242b5efb0456382f334","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q56d7d9bbe248ae5d84a8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":238,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:42:07.545Z","text":"签证的时候会拒你把","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9242b5efb0456382f334","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56d7d9bbe248ae5d84a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9242b5efb0456382f334","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3e46d93200ea7ecb7b90","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":239,"sp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哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q797213e45725402c468d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0245f191a16284f42aa7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":244,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:43:08.382Z","text":"大摇大摆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0245f191a16284f42aa7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbd4d84ccf23a1eaa20cb","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":245,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:43:10.984Z","text":"就像螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd4d84ccf23a1eaa20cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qfc0c5eb0998cf1436343","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":246,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:43:22.047Z","text":"你敢搞我吗 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc0c5eb0998cf1436343","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4a262ed0bfdbba584412","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":247,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T16:44:38.764Z","text":"我有回国的签证，但是送我机票我也不回去那个共匪国。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a262ed0bfdbba584412","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q46bf700dffc02edbf8ae","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":248,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:44:53.879Z","text":"之前在VOG混的时候有些熟战友，他们有什么事吗愿意和我分享","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46bf700dffc02edbf8ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q47851a382067877f6ae5","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":249,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:44:55.514Z","text":"没事我也不想回去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a262ed0bfdbba584412","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47851a382067877f6ae5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a262ed0bfdbba584412","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5aa49342b107daf0f87f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":250,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:45:22.477Z","text":"小心被投素","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47851a382067877f6ae5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5aa49342b107daf0f87f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47851a382067877f6ae5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5687de50f7e59f6e40cc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":251,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T16:45:46.839Z","text":"共匪不灭，我不回国。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5687de50f7e59f6e40cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc057bd024d1c851bac68","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":252,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:47:01.065Z","text":"我不担保你们回去的安全啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc057bd024d1c851bac68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe0ca59386af37d447d1f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":253,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:47:16.737Z","text":"我只是说出我知道的事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ca59386af37d447d1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd42fea81b158d59802d6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":254,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T16:48:13.943Z","text":"我讨厌共匪统治人的模式，看不惯，还不能说，而且周围个个都是粉红。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd42fea81b158d59802d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q7aabfbcefcd0cc886b28","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":255,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T16:51:43.365Z","text":"好几年前我回去过。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aabfbcefcd0cc886b28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q688ee2042bb676e6c059","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":256,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T16:52:01.707Z","text":"［用户 lon***］ 那那个战友回来了吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q688ee2042bb676e6c059","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9d5ec680b2c4def6f4fa","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":257,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:54:45.103Z","text":"回来了，我才说的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d5ec680b2c4def6f4fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qee97466b5089cb005dbc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":258,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-08T16:55:22.266Z","text":"回去之前买个新手机📲，安装一个新的软件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee97466b5089cb005dbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc71b6b0709f480f58bce","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":259,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:27:56.577Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 朱贝贝用的是警急动议？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc71b6b0709f480f58bce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qaee233f60d3b36714b9b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":260,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T17:32:30.012Z","text":"这孙子躲哪去了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1e3185bfb441742586b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaee233f60d3b36714b9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1e3185bfb441742586b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qea97ad080c7522681380","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":261,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:32:59.020Z","text":"这个链接你能发一下吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1e3185bfb441742586b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea97ad080c7522681380","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1e3185bfb441742586b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd60d826bc136b046158e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":262,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T17:34:27.164Z","text":"她漏什么马脚了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q690e1b4c6f9a37cb3257","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd60d826bc136b046158e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q690e1b4c6f9a37cb3257","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q67d2bd79ff9598359a3a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":263,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:34:41.570Z","text":"她在vog搞独裁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67d2bd79ff9598359a3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6e148542d442fe88a16c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":264,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:34:50.406Z","text":"她说禁谁就禁谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e148542d442fe88a16c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q77c7f6a873270221005a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":265,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:35:08.710Z","text":"她被我骂急了甩出一句： 我们就是搞言论控制 就是独裁！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77c7f6a873270221005a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdab0f3de7abd5267767b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":266,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T17:41:09.210Z","text":"原来是九指妖的狗呗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdab0f3de7abd5267767b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf2e1f3c7490fcef8aa43","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":267,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:41:20.157Z","text":"不太清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2e1f3c7490fcef8aa43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4c2ecabe08956667279d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":268,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:41:35.984Z","text":"但他们原来有一个北京姑娘聊天室","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c2ecabe08956667279d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q49d52a11f3dfa45f0fc8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":269,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T17:41:39.980Z","text":"之前俺在哪个群都是当观众，沉底儿的那种","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49d52a11f3dfa45f0fc8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc82a95f7d684168907ee","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":270,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:41:48.478Z","text":"她 Percy 阿丙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc82a95f7d684168907ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6c2df2b5bbc3626385c7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":271,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:41:49.894Z","text":"三人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c2df2b5bbc3626385c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2106ac2773e5c0c06616","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":272,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T17:42:16.454Z","text":"听说过，那会就有阿炳了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c2ecabe08956667279d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2106ac2773e5c0c06616","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c2ecabe08956667279d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5cdb566d522a09a1a81a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":273,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T17:42:48.947Z","text":"DC 农场出来 我才知道 阿炳","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2106ac2773e5c0c06616","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cdb566d522a09a1a81a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2106ac2773e5c0c06616","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2a0d8a4014b04004c17c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":274,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T17:43:10.251Z","text":"后来Percy砸锅了，皮匠没有，那会还傻傻的以为皮匠是好人，原来人家是有分工的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a0d8a4014b04004c17c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9b3e4924052d2d86be65","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":275,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T17:44:01.994Z","text":"要不是七哥直播我都不知道有个DC农场","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5cdb566d522a09a1a81a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b3e4924052d2d86be65","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cdb566d522a09a1a81a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qab888804141cf36b1c89","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":276,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:47:30.962Z","text":"我他妈就是dc农场出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab888804141cf36b1c89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qcfe9a6b872b2876c0203","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":277,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T17:58:06.320Z","text":"我很好奇 你为啥没进 小王子的农场","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab888804141cf36b1c89","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfe9a6b872b2876c0203","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab888804141cf36b1c89","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9c109aca4698814ffa50","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":278,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T17:58:19.332Z","text":"那个是啥农场","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfe9a6b872b2876c0203","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c109aca4698814ffa50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfe9a6b872b2876c0203","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf9319aaa1089a2c51954","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":279,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T17:58:31.905Z","text":"洛杉矶农场 现在是 小李的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9319aaa1089a2c51954","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf7cb35291ed9142859f0","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":280,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T18:02:21.254Z","text":"本群有个叫文知的，不知道是不是同一个人。文知滚蛋了。\n凡是名字带文字都是投机分子。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaee233f60d3b36714b9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7cb35291ed9142859f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaee233f60d3b36714b9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0c4dec6b6affa11e87da","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":281,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:04:20.560Z","text":"带文的都是比较老的一批战友","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf7cb35291ed9142859f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c4dec6b6affa11e87da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7cb35291ed9142859f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8689812d267392d27871","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":282,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:04:29.308Z","text":"Vog时代的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8689812d267392d27871","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3d9bc98e991db895d66b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":283,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T18:04:57.381Z","text":"小王子、Nicole、小飞象、还有罗伊，他们的演讲如此精彩，我看了一遍又一遍。到后来都变成了骗子。我的天！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d9bc98e991db895d66b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6a3c0d7a6bab770769fa","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":284,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T18:05:15.409Z","text":"我觉得他们本来就是骗子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d9bc98e991db895d66b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a3c0d7a6bab770769fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d9bc98e991db895d66b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6427b2a7ef88ea494d16","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":285,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:05:27.919Z","text":"没两把刷子怎么骗人呐","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d9bc98e991db895d66b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6427b2a7ef88ea494d16","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d9bc98e991db895d66b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q24b7300fffec0fa03ee0","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":286,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T18:05:38.232Z","text":"我万万没想到呀！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24b7300fffec0fa03ee0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q156abc43243606a8e324","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":287,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T18:05:54.205Z","text":"老郭用他们是没有办法的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24b7300fffec0fa03ee0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q156abc43243606a8e324","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24b7300fffec0fa03ee0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q542c624a3c2ae5aa7acd","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":288,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:06:05.275Z","text":"我也没想到，一个不剩全是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q542c624a3c2ae5aa7acd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q095cfea9ba039260b203","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":289,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:06:17.706Z","text":"对啊，没人可用啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q156abc43243606a8e324","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095cfea9ba039260b203","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q156abc43243606a8e324","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6aa316994929514d40e8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":290,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:06:35.957Z","text":"活还得有人干呐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":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但透明的让你看不懂 没人看懂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7c61fbdb7fbae86dac1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aada04f9b47e5faa978","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7c61fbdb7fbae86dac1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc63b43491c23a28d3628","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":295,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:08:25.825Z","text":"哈哈，你这两句跟上海农场那个老贼山姆说的有点像啊😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e3a7ea1461c37f4250a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc63b43491c23a28d3628","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e3a7ea1461c37f4250a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q01dd71cc43d1d432365f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":296,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T18:09:09.684Z","text":"是的。我记得他说过这句话。那时候我还相信他。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01dd71cc43d1d432365f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1a64273c91a40cfdd4b6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":297,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:10:48.691Z","text":"真TMD露脸的没一个好人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a64273c91a40cfdd4b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8cdf7fe5184caf4e4392","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":298,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:11:15.880Z","text":"七哥回来，他会怎么收拾这个烂摊子呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cdf7fe5184caf4e4392","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1ec8c323410d5e37e60e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":299,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T18:12:35.954Z","text":"我现在还算是好人，等到一旦露脸了，可能会变坏。真的很难说的，我自己都没办法把握住自己。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ec8c323410d5e37e60e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q41c6ba31c2bc90e982bc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":300,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:13:51.715Z","text":"露脸的肯定被盯上，总有办法拉你下水","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41c6ba31c2bc90e982bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q66cb2ff8e7d47a28410b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":301,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-08T18:14:23.384Z","text":"赖昌星说的好，不存在没缝的石头","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66cb2ff8e7d47a28410b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbc75c6ea061c076449a8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":302,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T19:35:36.838Z","text":"https://x.com/BBWWblack2/status/1942655496881651998","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc75c6ea061c076449a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q86128950a58fbba3bdc7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":303,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T19:35:43.614Z","text":"这是谁 打班农干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86128950a58fbba3bdc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb0654ee7ddd47c5c888b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":304,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T19:36:01.702Z","text":"还问马斯克 什么时候起诉班农","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0654ee7ddd47c5c888b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q38bdeff18ae791c030ed","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":305,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T19:36:27.388Z","text":"取关了   分不清大小王啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38bdeff18ae791c030ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3476d3c77c5069d2cd9d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":306,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T19:39:55.644Z","text":"ccp 最擅长 参 沙子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3476d3c77c5069d2cd9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa8465db828714b4d8ca9","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":307,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T19:48:03.143Z","text":"这个Blackrose 是专门黑班农的。但是很难说，班农会不会上圈套，我为班农捏一把汗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc75c6ea061c076449a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8465db828714b4d8ca9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc75c6ea061c076449a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdb25e9305aad42d0a329","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":308,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T19:56:48.838Z","text":"这个blackrose 也是不让人去法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb25e9305aad42d0a329","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q07b223742b35f4e65141","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":309,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T19:57:18.259Z","text":"blackrose应该是把我举报了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07b223742b35f4e65141","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q623823f699abd4af4a5a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":310,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-08T20:00:23.546Z","text":"你英文给力。美国有没有交流刑事案件的论坛啊？你可以去那些论坛里交流交流","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb25e9305aad42d0a329","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q623823f699abd4af4a5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb25e9305aad42d0a329","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd22d2695379ceb88156f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":311,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T20:01:32.752Z","text":"我把blackrose 拉黑了。\n这个虫子很让人讨厌。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd22d2695379ceb88156f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdf4632f6851cb9f05ff4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":312,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T20:04:46.406Z","text":"那你是不是又要重新注册一个X帐号？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q07b223742b35f4e65141","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf4632f6851cb9f05ff4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07b223742b35f4e65141","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc32b82f182f96a1cd401","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":313,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T20:06:29.685Z","text":"我刚刚测试了一下，你的X号没了。TMD","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc32b82f182f96a1cd401","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4b8819d3b0a7647fc403","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":314,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T20:08:25.413Z","text":"你就不应该在这种[屏蔽词]上浪费时间，沾上一身黑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b8819d3b0a7647fc403","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q46865f42f736b9f3047d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":315,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-08T20:09:31.722Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1942677335960084684?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46865f42f736b9f3047d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd61e342bcecb00f11234","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":316,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T20:11:04.550Z","text":"因为他们没能力 和 不敢跟 ccp 干，假骂 大帮忙  九层妖塔","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46865f42f736b9f3047d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd61e342bcecb00f11234","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46865f42f736b9f3047d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3aa036aa2651e3f8e057","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":317,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-08T20:12:27.388Z","text":"美国有没有司法杂志等等专业法律报纸或者论坛，英文好的，你们去和他们讲一下这个案件的漏洞。我是不会几句英文，没法做这事啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aa036aa2651e3f8e057","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qda0e47f1db69284e46d6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":318,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T20:16:55.193Z","text":"假骂 真帮忙  \n九层妖塔\n小骂 大帮忙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda0e47f1db69284e46d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2fbcb699bf58e6ef5bf3","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":319,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-08T22:45:47.501Z","text":"追着709律师，还有那些维权的，让她们谈谈郭文贵案件。除了昨天的一个回复过几句，还有王全章回复过一句不了解。\n709律师，他们搞纪念，警察又找上门了。郭文贵一个字不敢提。\n之前爆料革命群体看郭文贵视频都被喝茶。现在我大摇大摆实名直接谈郭文贵案件，没有任何官方联系我警告我。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fbcb699bf58e6ef5bf3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q285f3e0581f1e3beaf76","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":320,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T22:49:31.685Z","text":"只要你还没有骂 ccp  就还安全","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q285f3e0581f1e3beaf76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qaff4fd792c69a86a09b4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":321,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T22:50:21.077Z","text":"这群网红 可能也被 ccp 断粮了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaff4fd792c69a86a09b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8a588c5110ed839a6c13","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":322,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T22:50:28.588Z","text":"所以骂他们也没事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a588c5110ed839a6c13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qcc988141da9dfb385bc7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":323,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-08T22:53:43.603Z","text":"说明体制内对郭文贵已经放松了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2fbcb699bf58e6ef5bf3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc988141da9dfb385bc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fbcb699bf58e6ef5bf3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6edb1a49917f3eea3a6a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":324,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-08T22:57:55.286Z","text":"这帮家伙官瘾太重了。总是想着控制人、奴役人，归根到底还是共匪的余涅。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1134510920216dcf6592","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6edb1a49917f3eea3a6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5d0493e26d4b835b4dd2","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":325,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T22:59:32.931Z","text":"所以高人跟我说，中国大陆 要交给 白人管，不能让包括 新中国联邦的 任何中国人 参政","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d0493e26d4b835b4dd2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q416423805576b6da65f4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":326,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T23:00:38.482Z","text":"高人说，所有 中国人 都还没进化，以为自己是人，其实不是人，是公母（我也不懂是啥）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q416423805576b6da65f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q01e4d678affbe132394e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":327,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T23:23:04.911Z","text":"https://x.com/MilaLovesJoe/status/1942691761853456494","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01e4d678affbe132394e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q390a28a869f6d65151ef","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":328,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-08T23:23:10.721Z","text":"马斯克 也是 九层妖塔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q390a28a869f6d65151ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q64e198f5e61101e341b6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":329,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T02:42:47.192Z","text":"https://x.com/dxbybzb1722/status/1942771319487230143?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64e198f5e61101e341b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q336b4026f62b93ede51e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":330,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T02:42:52.686Z","text":"大美女","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q336b4026f62b93ede51e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8c443110cdf1c4369fd0","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":331,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-09T02:50:03.013Z","text":"我对韩梅梅不熟。可能她是更早期的人物。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c443110cdf1c4369fd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q674990590a6f24f22502","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":332,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-09T02:54:06.108Z","text":"我有印象。但是不记得她做啥了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c443110cdf1c4369fd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674990590a6f24f22502","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c443110cdf1c4369fd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdb4858d2702c67b6c504","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":333,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T02:55:53.185Z","text":"https://x.com/halley72715326/status/1942779385527853350?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb4858d2702c67b6c504","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8ac8b883ef803df0dbda","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":334,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T02:56:01.972Z","text":"越来越不敢编了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ac8b883ef803df0dbda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe9b36ac7e09f8318039f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":335,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T03:14:09.576Z","text":"他为啥举报你？他不也是反联盟的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9b36ac7e09f8318039f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb4c006d860379986a35a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":336,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T03:14:43.735Z","text":"郭美还在发盖特啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4c006d860379986a35a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qceb8d6e7e0b39db0af0d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":337,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T03:15:16.010Z","text":"现在就是联盟不再去看郭了，其他照常","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qceb8d6e7e0b39db0af0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa6766e5fb83856f47cc8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":338,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T03:19:50.054Z","text":"郭美现在不说直接去看了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qceb8d6e7e0b39db0af0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6766e5fb83856f47cc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qceb8d6e7e0b39db0af0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qafe2d63a647fd345247e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":339,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T03:19:59.049Z","text":"说七嫂去看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafe2d63a647fd345247e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa701b66eb2cde2910c82","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":340,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T03:49:58.788Z","text":"渔夫!敢想，敢干。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa701b66eb2cde2910c82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3b8f1f00a22bb0f8e5d0","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":341,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T03:52:58.718Z","text":"这就是逻辑！\n老子不懂法律，但是，我懂逻辑!基于法庭上检方指控，法庭命令的逻辑！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8f1f00a22bb0f8e5d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb66e381e105b6912d170","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":342,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T04:04:06.780Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1942796806469083157?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66e381e105b6912d170","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf44720a7c92d57ec9624","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":343,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T04:05:07.251Z","text":"我操 牛逼啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf44720a7c92d57ec9624","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4b4652b34589e39460d9","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":344,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T04:05:13.001Z","text":"螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b4652b34589e39460d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q09ace8b867f55f9df1cf","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":345,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T04:06:08.858Z","text":"我来演绎一下，下面的语\n语音，你们谁可以制作视频，就制作一下。。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09ace8b867f55f9df1cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdfb5adec4d5b115f425e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":346,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T04:41:23.337Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ 你回头，把上面总结一下，可以翻译成英文发给老郭的律师","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb5adec4d5b115f425e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q74991cf6d1046e63a1d7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":347,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T04:51:40.118Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ 你把这些，打电话发邮件给老郭律师也可以。这个案件，荒谬绝伦！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74991cf6d1046e63a1d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb09a9caa74b771e697bd","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":348,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T04:55:41.327Z","text":"螺丝兄您作为战友肯遵循法庭定论大于郭本人的论调去考虑问题，非常难能可贵。我个人有些许问题不解，你把这些告诉郭的律师，意义是什么？法律层面讲，这些应该是检方进一步权衡或调查的问题，郭的律师为了遵循辩护目是断然不会承认这些的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09a9caa74b771e697bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa8b4823a32de1bcc1ddf","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":349,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T05:02:28.462Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1942811117551772079?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8b4823a32de1bcc1ddf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd2e39d7e78b89593abe0","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":350,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-09T05:05:06.394Z","text":"好的。我要反复听几遍，理解了之后再表达出来。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfb5adec4d5b115f425e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2e39d7e78b89593abe0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb5adec4d5b115f425e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":351,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:13:26.876Z","text":"是这样：这个案件在郭本人诈骗这块儿是不荒谬的，但在赃款如何分配、索赔方面上， 确实问题比较大，因为各方（明知故骗的、蒙在鼓里的）都自然想尽可能的拿回钱。因为你确实承认自己不懂法律，所以我真的不能确定你到底哪里懂或不懂，如果你愿意慢点说，一个问题一个问题讨论，我们可以细谈，一下甩出太多没有重点我很难尝试去阐述。首先这个案件在郭本身诈骗上定论很明确，既然你说你尊重法庭所有论断，那我暂时不去多谈，如果有问题我们可以翻回此议题；至于索赔这块，对联盟众大咖我们肯定有共识，全是“坏人”奔着钱来的，这些人自然在我们看来是共谋，但毕竟事实上必然存在一批盲从，他们仍以为联盟是郭的托孤实体，而郭所谓的一切都是正义之举，只是阶段性受挫，紧跟联盟就是紧跟郭在他们脑海颠扑不破，那这批人法律上自然也存在受害者属性，需要依据进一步事实去调查他们究竟是真的蒙在鼓里，还是明知故骗，后者包括青藤等任何叫得上名的大咖一样，虽然我们“很清楚”他们都是骗子，但你想必也明白，法律讲的是硬事实，如果能找到比如他们和郭或王或的私密通讯记录比如就是一起诓骗战友榨取利益，但这不容易，需要慢慢来处理；但有一说一，这和郭本身的诈骗案关联终究不大，他那块儿的性质已经随着verdict定死，没有可见的程序不正义的地方，更不可能从索赔这块来翻案（最多影响量刑），因为法律是一个区块一个区块的严谨逻辑，并不是我们想当然两个东西可以链接在一起，可能你认为有所谓不正义程序，但毕竟如你所言：你并不真的懂美国法律","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6bf5d12a636b33c91203","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":352,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T05:14:23.016Z","text":"青藤之前说过，家人也不能去看郭了，但是现在“郭美”还在发盖特说去看郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qafe2d63a647fd345247e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bf5d12a636b33c91203","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafe2d63a647fd345247e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q97f5752e89cf427b49eb","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":353,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T05:17:45.250Z","text":"老郭诈骗了你啊？\n\n法庭没有说老郭诈骗，法庭说老郭共谋诈骗！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97f5752e89cf427b49eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe6212443b0a6b8246782","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":354,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T05:18:59.263Z","text":"法庭指控认定老郭共谋诈骗，联盟农场是共谋犯！\n但是，我看到的却是联盟农场共谋诈骗，然后联盟农场栽赃陷害郭文贵！诈骗是事实，但是，是联盟农场在诈骗！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6212443b0a6b8246782","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q47da49c3d58020650bc3","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":355,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T05:19:16.174Z","text":"你把钱汇给郭文贵了啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47da49c3d58020650bc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q22fa51843a15e6588db1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":356,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T05:19:26.209Z","text":"我把钱汇给联盟农场！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22fa51843a15e6588db1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5d7bd89015b4ea8ad059","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":357,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T05:19:32.636Z","text":"联盟农场在诈骗我！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d7bd89015b4ea8ad059","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8d09dad327b975861261","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":358,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T05:19:50.230Z","text":"你不懂逻辑！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d09dad327b975861261","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6ad70b86f8d1bbeab274","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":359,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:24:38.163Z","text":"抱歉，我以为你真的完全以法庭本身的论断基础上去“推理”问题，原来本身对verdict终究有个人解读。请忽略我的前文，打扰了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ad70b86f8d1bbeab274","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q102f8fe26ff1b44815a1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":360,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:28:38.532Z","text":"我支持你拿回你的损失，这我们完全存在共识。你是受害者，这绝对没问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q102f8fe26ff1b44815a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q534ee932b99d1483e397","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":361,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:31:21.302Z","text":"哦，你也承认郭法律意义上是有罪的，那就行，你表述的比较急，有时候很难确定你到底在表述什么。见谅。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9bd2a7f1198319f5f573","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q534ee932b99d1483e397","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6831404bdff87ccee289","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":362,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:32:28.019Z","text":"这个是不可能的，抱歉。他本身的那些指控不存在可见的程序不正义。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61eed75857941be1cdef","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6831404bdff87ccee289","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":363,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:50:23.771Z","text":"不是，螺丝哥，您千万冷静先听我说一句，你在这个点上完全搞错了。我是英文通，多少对北美刑侦实录有点兴趣懂点法律（且我好朋友是法学phd），但你不必信我，自己可以核查：美国法律意义上，嫌疑犯（suspect）在陪审团达成裁决的那一刻（达成verdict），就在法律意义上被定义为罪行成立（该人被convicted），其人变为法律意义上的罪犯、犯罪分子（convict）。只有该人成为罪犯，才能走入下一步量刑程序（sentencing）。这块儿是硬事实，不是我们的任何“逻辑”和推理的范畴。郭现在已经是罪犯，至于怎么量刑，跟前者本身无关，事实上也只有成为前者，才能进入量刑程序，否则就“程序不正义”了。螺丝哥我不知道你研究这么久怎么这个基础逻辑没搞清？请相信我，自己去查查，如果你之前是听别人说的，你一定是被骗了，要么是借助翻译时纰漏，对语言的内在逻辑不理解，翻译工具局限性很大，这个我们英语专业从业者非常了解，但很难跟外行讲清，我们可以有万般分歧，但这个点我是摸着良心提醒你。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2233068d0b3d6d586d0e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa22d953e03a906d50102","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":364,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:51:59.101Z","text":"你根本没搞懂我们在干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6831404bdff87ccee289","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa22d953e03a906d50102","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6831404bdff87ccee289","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qabf09236755f9d982f7c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":365,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:52:07.865Z","text":"你的phd一年赚多少钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf09236755f9d982f7c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc444455ee0ce785ca78b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":366,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:52:26.466Z","text":"你英文有我牛吗？ ［用户 zci***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc444455ee0ce785ca78b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa0a375a85c6d6787c17a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":367,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:54:13.361Z","text":"这些跟我说的话本身对与错有什么实质联系吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0a375a85c6d6787c17a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q7dd225188693d16be33c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":368,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:54:30.913Z","text":"没有什么实质联系","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0a375a85c6d6787c17a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dd225188693d16be33c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0a375a85c6d6787c17a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb9289e30ba251bd48cfe","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":369,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:54:39.075Z","text":"那就行，讲理。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9289e30ba251bd48cfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd001cbaefc4c773c6311","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":370,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:56:25.929Z","text":"我理不理解，跟我说的这段话，没有关系，我阐述的是一个法律基本概念，螺丝哥没有弄明白这点，我觉得我有责任讲出实话。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd001cbaefc4c773c6311","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc8d80dcb8a6218d91c97","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":371,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:56:42.801Z","text":"至于计策能不能成功，这不属于硬概念范畴，我没有意见","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8d80dcb8a6218d91c97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa8601fc72fff60bec808","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":372,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:58:11.526Z","text":"计策能不能成功可能 和法律概念 没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8d80dcb8a6218d91c97","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8601fc72fff60bec808","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8d80dcb8a6218d91c97","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q33d878a5f1b9a7e2864f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":373,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:58:48.409Z","text":"对，没关系。但螺丝哥对那个基本概念理解错了，他需要知道，这对他进一步思考问题，有益无害。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33d878a5f1b9a7e2864f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2707766185597f4be245","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":374,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:59:44.835Z","text":"他本来就不懂法律","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2707766185597f4be245","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q26aa93a630005a3d7f4a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":375,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:59:53.691Z","text":"写动议被托雷斯干好几回","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26aa93a630005a3d7f4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9fc23c7e256bc50c7155","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":376,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T06:03:29.863Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 看来你认为螺丝哥的计策很可能成功啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fc23c7e256bc50c7155","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1909e46f13a92ec0cb09","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":377,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T06:05:57.576Z","text":"灭爆小组的局要破咯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1909e46f13a92ec0cb09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qff1511ba76d1889dd283","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":378,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-09T06:16:11.295Z","text":"螺丝哥的话我基本上听懂了。稍后再整理出文字。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff1511ba76d1889dd283","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb0eb505c1f083b34d719","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":379,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T06:29:34.267Z","text":"定什么死 辛普森都可以无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0eb505c1f083b34d719","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q88b184da3b12ba0cc746","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":380,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T06:29:48.612Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 你给联盟洗地太明显","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88b184da3b12ba0cc746","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa371d7b6990f245d7c23","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":381,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T06:30:03.498Z","text":"［用户 zci***］  螺丝哥要放大招抓你们了 你们这才紧张？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa371d7b6990f245d7c23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9e672e963b54ac8c831e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":382,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:30:56.913Z","text":"给联盟洗地怎么讲？我是反联盟的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e672e963b54ac8c831e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q7021e544554acce3b96f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":383,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T06:31:53.926Z","text":"机器人是不是骗子啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7021e544554acce3b96f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qac42ea419cd384fd567c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":384,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T06:32:23.428Z","text":"我对案子的看法 也是八成打上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac42ea419cd384fd567c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qafef17e4a0d9e6588aaf","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":385,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T06:32:35.154Z","text":"量刑前翻案概率不是没有 但小","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafef17e4a0d9e6588aaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6c17476a0ba4485ac7b8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":386,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:33:38.631Z","text":"你这张图片第一句话不就写的明白吗？陪审团裁定有罪，就是罪犯了啊。至于上诉，那又是另一回事了，而你之前录音说的是，量刑出来前，不是罪犯，这你法理上搞错了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30dfd0d7aee0fdd84569","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c17476a0ba4485ac7b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q7741dfed770e1b7dae86","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":387,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T06:34:02.458Z","text":"你有什么概念啊？\n\n陪审团裁定无罪的，法官没有权利推翻！\n\n陪审团裁定有罪的，如果证据充分，法官可以推翻！这是非常罕见而已！郭文贵是常见的啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd001cbaefc4c773c6311","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7741dfed770e1b7dae86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd001cbaefc4c773c6311","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc0eb647b42e7a734d79c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":388,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T06:34:23.957Z","text":"判决书没有下，郭文贵就不是罪犯！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c17476a0ba4485ac7b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0eb647b42e7a734d79c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c17476a0ba4485ac7b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q732fd5cae1594519ddc7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":389,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:34:29.297Z","text":"我没说不能尝试推翻对不对？你要讲解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q732fd5cae1594519ddc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q78233214af29b1dd5537","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":390,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:34:51.063Z","text":"陪审团裁定后，就是罪犯，这是法律逻辑。至于之后翻案是另一回事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78233214af29b1dd5537","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q428ea0fce60c53357096","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":391,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T06:35:36.195Z","text":"非常感谢，有了机器人！你的谬论才能站不住脚！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q428ea0fce60c53357096","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4b7a38a438ee98d2bbae","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":392,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T06:36:00.644Z","text":"你还想说什么啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b7a38a438ee98d2bbae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8086bce9a2d9440910e5","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":393,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T06:36:59.079Z","text":"如果没有机器人，你还要把我绕进去。对不起了。你的表现，已经出卖了你！我百分之百遵守法律!百分之百遵守法庭命令！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8086bce9a2d9440910e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q61bffe79fd040668a9e2","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":394,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:44:44.941Z","text":"哦，我明白了，你是看到conviction这块儿。先说声抱歉，我们没沟通明白，这块儿你是对的，conviction是发生在法官最终量刑，但陪审团的裁决是确定了这个人本身有罪与否，只有程序上确定了这个人有罪，才能进行量刑阶段，最终达成正式定罪，这里的定罪不是指有罪无罪意义上的定罪，这是英文逻辑和不懂英文的人容易产生的语言理解问题，郭确实是法律意义上的有罪，但没最终定出刑期意义上的定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61bffe79fd040668a9e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q05eebb5201b8518c80c6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":395,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:45:54.907Z","text":"你可以问一下机器人，陪审团是否负责裁决被告有罪之类的，我不太需要查中文机器人所以不太熟悉你们搜索问题的逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05eebb5201b8518c80c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q09f59fb1c0a88b9600d4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":396,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:47:10.125Z","text":"这个你说的对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a67387d9ed8bed3ccbc","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09f59fb1c0a88b9600d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q73c6724a1a76719b6101","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":397,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T06:47:19.089Z","text":"重罪，必须陪审团，并且是大陪审团，法官无权直接定罪!我猜测，主动认罪除外！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c6724a1a76719b6101","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q44491d04b8a639ce58fb","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":398,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:47:22.772Z","text":"我没意见，法官有权限","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44491d04b8a639ce58fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q15cd3a6ba90e4ef55bf6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":399,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:47:50.327Z","text":"我是完全讲理的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15cd3a6ba90e4ef55bf6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3614353372874f866a8b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":400,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T06:56:32.550Z","text":"好了，我大概理解你们的想法了。纯粹是有点兴趣插了句嘴。也是有趣，有人认为我是灭爆组，有人说这是给联盟洗地，真战友之间奇思妙想碰撞甚多。我最终也没说什么有建设性的，抛了段不讨喜的被认为弱智的观点，又讲了段对各位判断没什么裨益的纯法律事实，不过能在喜国一个不禁言的群里发言也挺有趣，为你们鲜明抵制联盟一言堂的压制叫声好，且终究感谢你们对联盟嘴脸的揭露和打击，这是我们最大的共识。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3614353372874f866a8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000012","next_batch_id":"batch-000014"}