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再纠结什么战友 伪类 已经毫无意义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f2227ff83af6945c5bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d29d8cdf482514403d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f2227ff83af6945c5bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdf7ceb3271cb598f689c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":406,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:04:54.606Z","text":"315后 没有战友 没有伪类","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf7ceb3271cb598f689c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q07b8456bb704cd1be0ef","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":407,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:05:18.428Z","text":"那你这句话就矛盾了，对吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4d8cb2aaa00584a7d96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07b8456bb704cd1be0ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4d8cb2aaa00584a7d96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q11e6508657cda24467e5","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":408,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:05:52.512Z","text":"我的意思是 你的类别 按照传统意义上分类 是伪类","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11e6508657cda24467e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qff7f3e79b576560b99ac","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":409,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:06:01.783Z","text":"按照315之后的分类就无意义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff7f3e79b576560b99ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe448315292c41e9c09d9","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":410,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:06:18.993Z","text":"哦，好的。你的类别对我来说，永远是，真战友，这是我的定义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe448315292c41e9c09d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc92b58cb55a7b8b97904","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":411,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:06:31.702Z","text":"这个群里我相信大部分忙前忙后的人，都是。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc92b58cb55a7b8b97904","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q83939c0173f9b8bac99b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":412,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:06:44.311Z","text":"你见过真战友像我这样满口喷粪的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe448315292c41e9c09d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83939c0173f9b8bac99b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe448315292c41e9c09d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qeb281eeca831139f6cfc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":413,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:06:56.407Z","text":"开个玩笑讲，刚才我第一条留言，那个给我点赞的，你们可得小心点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb281eeca831139f6cfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q98ec0815ab4feb793c4a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":414,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:07:11.048Z","text":"真战友不太可能给我点赞。当然如果误伤了，我道歉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98ec0815ab4feb793c4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa0e3637df6ca6b4cc031","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":415,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:07:44.922Z","text":"真战友与否看得是他的内在逻辑和立场，任何语言包装都无任何意义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83939c0173f9b8bac99b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0e3637df6ca6b4cc031","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83939c0173f9b8bac99b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc21494ebbed3aa5dd6eb","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":416,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:08:19.050Z","text":"青藤成天谦谦君子的维持假象，有何意义呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc21494ebbed3aa5dd6eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q7a1f5111f3e0c323ce9e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":417,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:09:10.421Z","text":"螺丝哥这种，绝对的真战友，天真刻苦，忠于信念","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a1f5111f3e0c323ce9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q548caecafe7b1d68ff59","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":418,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:09:52.498Z","text":"我早就把联盟里的所有人都辱骂了至少一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q548caecafe7b1d68ff59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc4d3725c4b199e359f31","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":419,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:09:56.437Z","text":"我挺佩服，某种程度上。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4d3725c4b199e359f31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb02957cd5353bc07b84f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":420,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:10:13.706Z","text":"现在贴什么战友 伪类的标签根本没有意义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb02957cd5353bc07b84f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q14c6724e5534f1df870a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":421,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:10:32.226Z","text":"我说你是伪类 只是传统意义上的 便于分类","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14c6724e5534f1df870a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0dd31a86db0d87a6299d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":422,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:10:40.890Z","text":"但这个分类在现实中已经失去了意义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dd31a86db0d87a6299d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q14d131d3f5440fd3472a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":423,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:10:47.062Z","text":"战友 反倒是一个贬义词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d131d3f5440fd3472a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q39ce95039bd34238286a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":424,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:11:36.895Z","text":"战友这个词跟伪类一样，没有明确的定义。对我来说，至少得加一个“真”字区别，郭本人的说法最传神，“最后的百分之五”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39ce95039bd34238286a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6f9074d71f8471a7337f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":425,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:11:51.466Z","text":"他确实是个邪恶的天才。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9074d71f8471a7337f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd71b4413ea6ff90f4e6f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":426,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:12:00.256Z","text":"天才这方面，没得说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd71b4413ea6ff90f4e6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf2ae97f140852d21cf5d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":427,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:12:28.519Z","text":"郭玩的是禅宗 神魔一体","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f9074d71f8471a7337f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ae97f140852d21cf5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9074d71f8471a7337f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q21429338e90966ecf340","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":428,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:12:50.678Z","text":"我说实话，我真的不知道什么是“伪类”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21429338e90966ecf340","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q045d951bdc00e0a0d73a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":429,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:13:14.982Z","text":"315前 砸郭 砸联盟是伪类","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21429338e90966ecf340","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q045d951bdc00e0a0d73a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21429338e90966ecf340","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q47d1981338fe02819410","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":430,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:13:15.525Z","text":"我只看是不是中共方利益者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47d1981338fe02819410","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5e99fe92f564056ced63","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":431,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:13:26.308Z","text":"这个你很难说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47d1981338fe02819410","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e99fe92f564056ced63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47d1981338fe02819410","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q54b69bc0ed96d30dc4ef","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":432,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:13:29.532Z","text":"谁都有可能是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54b69bc0ed96d30dc4ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbc7bd19255f3ad2ef0ef","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":433,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:13:32.673Z","text":"谁都有可能不是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc7bd19255f3ad2ef0ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2f54babc9c3c55ba4553","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":434,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:13:34.539Z","text":"喜国自身对“伪类”有特殊的定义，我个人只是看中共利益与否","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f54babc9c3c55ba4553","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8da9738400aaf54b5c88","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":435,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:13:47.876Z","text":"所以每个人都是量子态","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8da9738400aaf54b5c88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbedcd429370ccb77c73e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":436,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:14:00.855Z","text":"嗯。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbedcd429370ccb77c73e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0b0379d2805040d5daef","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":437,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:14:20.541Z","text":"那我不放问一句，有没有可能你有天会发现，郭那套确实是骗局？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b0379d2805040d5daef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q40af43b99e355e53eac1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":438,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:14:42.737Z","text":"这样说不太妥，我换一种思维实验，你尝试回复下：","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40af43b99e355e53eac1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qae1b2dc7fd8c50c9ed78","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":439,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:14:50.738Z","text":"我说了 郭玩的是禅宗 禅宗局 你自己是骗子 那这个就是骗局","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b0379d2805040d5daef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae1b2dc7fd8c50c9ed78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b0379d2805040d5daef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q894ba3be73533c25bf2d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":440,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:15:07.144Z","text":"丁元英是不是骗子？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q894ba3be73533c25bf2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8804037a64f6825f08f8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":441,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:15:17.963Z","text":"在叶晓明等人看来 他就是一个彻头彻尾的骗子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8804037a64f6825f08f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q32e78db6639289f59943","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":442,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:15:30.945Z","text":"比如从纯逻辑上讲，不谈具体事情，抽象说，你现在相信郭的理念，一定是出于对他先前的某些了解，让你确信了他的可信性对吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e78db6639289f59943","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0e3c70627fd569911dfe","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":443,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:15:37.149Z","text":"但在欧阳雪 韩楚生等人看来 丁元英就是神","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e3c70627fd569911dfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q25c649b2196301405fd3","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":444,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:15:47.579Z","text":"对吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32e78db6639289f59943","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25c649b2196301405fd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e78db6639289f59943","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd4b483fbcce36fca8717","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":445,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:16:11.858Z","text":"我相信郭的理念 源自于对这个世界的理解","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32e78db6639289f59943","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4b483fbcce36fca8717","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e78db6639289f59943","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q30fc21a20293f56c3af5","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":446,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:16:54.920Z","text":"不是对他的了解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30fc21a20293f56c3af5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa536a8b6867ab87dbaec","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":447,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:00.436Z","text":"好的也可以，那我想给你的一个思维实验是：这个世界、或者郭、或者别的什么，究竟发生什么，会让你认同，对郭之前的看法，禅宗局之类的比如，是错的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa536a8b6867ab87dbaec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe094a1592b6c7713ffea","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":448,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:02.285Z","text":"而是对世界运作法则的了解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe094a1592b6c7713ffea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q7b0c2229d1cd51bcdc5f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":449,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:12.584Z","text":"是不是它们觉得胜券在握了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc988141da9dfb385bc7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b0c2229d1cd51bcdc5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc988141da9dfb385bc7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q36a7f665a3e1ce36ef06","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":450,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:32.893Z","text":"禅宗局没有对错","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa536a8b6867ab87dbaec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36a7f665a3e1ce36ef06","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa536a8b6867ab87dbaec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6c58e67bb30270606c05","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":451,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:33.386Z","text":"这是党员的基本素质","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6edb1a49917f3eea3a6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c58e67bb30270606c05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6edb1a49917f3eea3a6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q14f555d96cf330afdc5d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":452,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:36.518Z","text":"你没有看懂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14f555d96cf330afdc5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa73940b60d96879ba441","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":453,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:46.779Z","text":"你用对错看禅宗局 就太狭隘了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa73940b60d96879ba441","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf6a795c934573a63f756","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":454,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:17:56.674Z","text":"你应该去看一下天道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6a795c934573a63f756","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbe830ff4cbcdaa7e9115","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":455,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:18:14.055Z","text":"禅宗局 你是什么人 你在局里就是什么结局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe830ff4cbcdaa7e9115","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf31a581d7a3ae1107104","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":456,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:18:27.127Z","text":"你是骗子 那你跟着郭 郭就骗你钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf31a581d7a3ae1107104","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd046e42357c9178509bd","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":457,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:18:29.392Z","text":"就这么简单","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd046e42357c9178509bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa54285c5f73d41e481c8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":458,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:18:47.614Z","text":"你是灭共者 你跟着郭 你就是革命","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa54285c5f73d41e481c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6cc2984ae75ae8d4c912","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":459,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T07:19:04.066Z","text":"那帮律师能出来还能有饭吃，说明啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q351fe3f61f8c89c69dac","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc2984ae75ae8d4c912","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q248c5fe827d5f2dc635a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":460,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:19:11.402Z","text":"你是沼泽地 你跟着郭 就是保命","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q248c5fe827d5f2dc635a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q7cb2345e50a2ccd65bb2","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":461,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:19:13.676Z","text":"没打疫苗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cb2345e50a2ccd65bb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q72262860d980cebad088","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":462,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:19:37.181Z","text":"这就是禅宗局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72262860d980cebad088","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf771dd6b090d0afb0800","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":463,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:19:49.798Z","text":"你想骗郭钱 那郭就骗你钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf771dd6b090d0afb0800","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd0235a07dc6e701c1c6e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":464,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:20:12.406Z","text":"你想弄死郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0235a07dc6e701c1c6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q698ca8fcec97d0749d54","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":465,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:20:18.310Z","text":"郭先弄死你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q698ca8fcec97d0749d54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf2699b46f944e685b5a7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":466,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T07:20:26.704Z","text":"还有那个[删节：成员身份]，都是大直播露脸的人物，突然就没声了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q64e198f5e61101e341b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2699b46f944e685b5a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64e198f5e61101e341b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5fa11726c3701eb72eb8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":467,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:20:29.049Z","text":"哪个想弄死他的人 没被弄死？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fa11726c3701eb72eb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q36d75480d7ff3dd8347b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":468,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:21:23.894Z","text":"我给每个扪心自问是真战友的（搅局的不要回答谢谢没意义）都问下这个问题：究竟发生什么事，会让你认为，郭这一切其实是骗局？ 比如我打个极端的超自然比方，耶稣降临到你面前，说郭确实是骗子，那你肯定要相信了；撇开这种超自然的，有没有什么切实的标的事件，能让你相信你之前对郭的核心理解是错的？重申：这是纯假设意义上的思维实验，不要去考虑你认为的这个事件发生的可能性。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36d75480d7ff3dd8347b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qcd534dd0e1f0adb3bbcc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":469,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:21:53.097Z","text":"瑞恩这种思路就不用回答了。别人肯定又不一样的想法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd534dd0e1f0adb3bbcc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd9dafd71f62095caeea3","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":470,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:22:06.779Z","text":"我说了 你这么问 没有意义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36d75480d7ff3dd8347b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9dafd71f62095caeea3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36d75480d7ff3dd8347b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8c18b876a2c15b42c145","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":471,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:22:26.899Z","text":"没有意义，我个人闲趣、好奇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c18b876a2c15b42c145","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9396a85bd41792c6d395","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":472,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:22:34.434Z","text":"如果是狭义的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9396a85bd41792c6d395","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb70ca86af0b9a35a9bf2","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":473,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:22:42.136Z","text":"那郭已经证明他是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb70ca86af0b9a35a9bf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q93a1a5495005d2f8bb41","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":474,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:23:02.949Z","text":"有愿意回答的，可以答疑下，我就是想看看不同人的见解。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93a1a5495005d2f8bb41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q10246028e91cafd865de","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":475,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:23:06.752Z","text":"疫苗这一点 他的贡献远比耶稣更大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10246028e91cafd865de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qfaec3eb0aaf728bb31ee","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":476,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:23:13.137Z","text":"耶稣救了多少人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaec3eb0aaf728bb31ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q391552513cf622c24753","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":477,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:23:29.380Z","text":"他影响了多少 直接获救","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q391552513cf622c24753","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd164ccc8e9704a4075fc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":478,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:23:39.466Z","text":"比比数量","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd164ccc8e9704a4075fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1a4ff50c91e25bb9f557","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":479,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:23:50.056Z","text":"耶稣救人是在死后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a4ff50c91e25bb9f557","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qfc8fc0ba293cd7520146","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":480,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:24:04.542Z","text":"郭救人已经完成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc8fc0ba293cd7520146","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf8edb3fc73d2c781d334","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":481,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:24:23.193Z","text":"并且数量是古今任何宗教事件里面最多的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8edb3fc73d2c781d334","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q48f8d422fa702dc627fb","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":482,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:24:53.825Z","text":"这已经是事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48f8d422fa702dc627fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q13c0304580651acd46ff","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":483,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:25:16.617Z","text":"我说了 你这么问 没有意义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93a1a5495005d2f8bb41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13c0304580651acd46ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93a1a5495005d2f8bb41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa32c923880f2f442a1f7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":484,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:25:21.816Z","text":"很多事实已经摆在面前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32c923880f2f442a1f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb7de3ebe534698370366","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":485,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:25:43.354Z","text":"正在发展的事情 也都是禅宗局里面的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7de3ebe534698370366","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2b067a0a05ee806e9bad","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":486,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:26:33.008Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 你应该去读读天道 最后王庙村是什么状态","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b067a0a05ee806e9bad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd0f08314577ceeb3c319","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":487,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:26:49.798Z","text":"郭这段历史的最终局 就会是什么状态","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0f08314577ceeb3c319","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb8ea4de869000587336f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":488,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:27:43.237Z","text":"王庙村的结局 是被纳入了正轨公司的生产队伍 结束了贫困村的头衔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8ea4de869000587336f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd516b3280d25be322087","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":489,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:27:51.011Z","text":"而救世主不是丁元英","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd516b3280d25be322087","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdbebdac2ad0d0339158d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":490,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:28:18.002Z","text":"而是丁元英引进的思想 ： 你自己才是救世主 靠你自己提升市场的竞争力自救","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbebdac2ad0d0339158d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q856b3da5ee852a9f9954","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":491,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:28:25.045Z","text":"别指望什么佛祖耶稣毛泽东","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q856b3da5ee852a9f9954","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q227de9cbad8315be0c10","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":492,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:28:36.383Z","text":"强势文化就是这个思想","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q227de9cbad8315be0c10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4cddf87e0996735dc302","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":493,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:28:54.276Z","text":"郭的终局必然和这个一样 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认知能力才是救世主","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q910887aa873712a2f4ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe9fbc89da40750cddb1f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":495,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:29:45.822Z","text":"郭的禅宗局是丁元英的升级版","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9fbc89da40750cddb1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4a2e7538cce8d9712a4a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":496,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:32:30.066Z","text":"https://x.com/lunali32972904/status/1845452448527213055?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a2e7538cce8d9712a4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qea19ab28c1671fcb7da8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":497,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:32:34.611Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 你看看吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea19ab28c1671fcb7da8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2a178db5a9684102d6e9","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":498,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:32:45.598Z","text":"他已经透底了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a178db5a9684102d6e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qa48194a9186ad3b03cb8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":499,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:32:48.849Z","text":"他整个理论体系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa48194a9186ad3b03cb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc2c9cfd3cbf8cd2c0286","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":500,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:32:54.586Z","text":"打法套路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2c9cfd3cbf8cd2c0286","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdf52bbe279fc2eb39012","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":501,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:32:56.811Z","text":"全都是禅宗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf52bbe279fc2eb39012","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8b5883dad54a863090ae","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":502,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:33:05.517Z","text":"然而禅宗几个人能懂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b5883dad54a863090ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q53493c4c78b3c1c3528f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":503,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:33:29.154Z","text":"包括螺丝哥（虽然可能不会想回复这些无聊的问题），既然如此遵循法庭的命令等，我也想知道到底发生什么能让他全然相信郭本身是骗局主谋，比如法庭量刑出来彻底定罪后，会相信吗？还是正式服刑期间上诉被驳回后，就相信？还是怎么样，毕竟包括那些终身监禁的杀人犯在内，他们始终在法理上几乎永远都存在被赦免的理论可能（只是切实不会发生，法官和美国相关权限执政官员不是傻子），这是美国法律的人性之处使然，难道这个体制本身的理论可能只要存在，就相信郭绝对是无辜的？应该不至于得出这么荒唐的逻辑吧...所以到底是什么，发生什么标志事件会让螺丝哥确信，郭确实是骗子，我真的很好奇，螺丝哥应该不会像瑞恩用这套禅宗逻辑看问题，恐怕有自己独特的想法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36d75480d7ff3dd8347b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53493c4c78b3c1c3528f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36d75480d7ff3dd8347b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q4431589432470ad77d71","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":504,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:35:38.093Z","text":"低层次的人 想骗郭钱 结果自己钱被郭骗到sec里面冻结","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4431589432470ad77d71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q43adcd2d179baef37ee6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":505,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:35:49.568Z","text":"郭是不是骗子 ？ 当然是骗子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43adcd2d179baef37ee6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8416236227fd702c3146","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":506,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:36:23.525Z","text":"然而郭只是幻化成了你的贪成痴慢疑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8416236227fd702c3146","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q48db0dca8d2fa896db30","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":507,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:36:35.027Z","text":"是你的七情六欲 骗了你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48db0dca8d2fa896db30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8b82bce40cc1e9a278f4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":508,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:36:38.987Z","text":"这就是禅宗局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b82bce40cc1e9a278f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qfd6186279e4d84ef79e7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":509,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:36:55.577Z","text":"你是什么人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd6186279e4d84ef79e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd10fa35ab4d95389b0b0","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":510,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:36:58.975Z","text":"郭就变成什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd10fa35ab4d95389b0b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf6d93e20d57a9533431e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":511,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T07:39:18.039Z","text":"一句话： 只有你自己是骗子 你才会认为郭是骗子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d93e20d57a9533431e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q091f077f0a596a3ddc0d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":512,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T07:50:38.462Z","text":"有我在，法庭就不可能量刑成功！这个案子，漏洞太多！连我不懂法律，都能发现这么多问题。专业律师看到我提出的漏洞，你觉得老郭律师会眼睁睁看着法官量刑成功啊？你要是律师，你会错过这个名垂青史的机会啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53493c4c78b3c1c3528f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q091f077f0a596a3ddc0d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53493c4c78b3c1c3528f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q11d94b9ca8286eae03a9","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":513,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T07:53:25.171Z","text":"好的，这我没意见，支持任何出于真心的行为；我想问的是，假如，注意，仅仅是假如，您的计划没有如期兑现，您会改变对郭本身的想法吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q091f077f0a596a3ddc0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d94b9ca8286eae03a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q091f077f0a596a3ddc0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q83e978e2037e7e98075d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":514,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T08:04:04.512Z","text":"没有假如！但凡你说的有可能，我会冒险上庭啊？我在国内，在山东！我冒险，至少能看到回报才可以啊！冒着脑袋瓜子搬家的风险，为了一个小骗子啊？如果郭文贵是诈骗犯，我吃饱了撑的介入案件啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11d94b9ca8286eae03a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83e978e2037e7e98075d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d94b9ca8286eae03a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9c3b4487f2203fd56533","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":515,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:06:18.875Z","text":"首先，老乡好；您觉得郭还需要几年才能出来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83e978e2037e7e98075d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c3b4487f2203fd56533","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83e978e2037e7e98075d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8fc77a58cd7f6df13b94","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":516,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T08:07:12.917Z","text":"如果顺利，托雷斯就直接推翻案件！看看托雷斯能坚持多久吧！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c3b4487f2203fd56533","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fc77a58cd7f6df13b94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c3b4487f2203fd56533","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1aa7a7ecfc83b46a3abf","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":517,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:07:30.156Z","text":"大概多久，你的极限预估？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aa7a7ecfc83b46a3abf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q23f24dcbe289a549819f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":518,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T08:09:08.117Z","text":"即使托雷斯给老郭定罪。上诉，我不懂，但是，我认为，上诉流程会比地区法院快的多！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1aa7a7ecfc83b46a3abf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23f24dcbe289a549819f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aa7a7ecfc83b46a3abf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q10996fe08d8ac5844203","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":519,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:09:26.855Z","text":"这一点我和螺丝哥观点不一致 他觉得立马应该推翻 而我认为 托雷斯会负隅顽抗 最终应该上诉和政治解决双线进行 明年应该是翻案时间点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8fc77a58cd7f6df13b94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10996fe08d8ac5844203","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fc77a58cd7f6df13b94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3dd8e735c415630dda3e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":520,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:09:29.719Z","text":"两年？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dd8e735c415630dda3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6bafa84f4009a5cb3cb4","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":521,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T08:09:34.525Z","text":"我认为，大概率，今年之内，老郭会出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bafa84f4009a5cb3cb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1d87cb78183906abc706","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":522,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:09:41.662Z","text":"我认为上诉的话两年内","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3dd8e735c415630dda3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d87cb78183906abc706","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dd8e735c415630dda3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q488b24cd1fb33658c53f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":523,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:09:42.504Z","text":"小概率呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q488b24cd1fb33658c53f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q69eafb122955f1adacfe","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":524,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:09:49.068Z","text":"至多几年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69eafb122955f1adacfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbf34cd163ad88198a042","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":525,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:10:01.494Z","text":"老郭这个案子 是不可能坐铁案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf34cd163ad88198a042","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q22c7212f31c9d4e8f7a1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":526,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:10:09.378Z","text":"最坏结果 就算上诉都失败","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22c7212f31c9d4e8f7a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qcd11fdeb073bc7818214","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":527,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:10:18.234Z","text":"川普肯定会介入赦免","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd11fdeb073bc7818214","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q0e6d67b2bc0501790d18","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":528,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:11:04.608Z","text":"老郭这个案子如果被定成铁案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e6d67b2bc0501790d18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q17a00dbc004a7d146246","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":529,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T08:11:06.734Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 这个家伙句句挖坑，这是领了任务来这取证的吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17a00dbc004a7d146246","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q48aee3e8f4ee096315b1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":530,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:11:16.056Z","text":"川普都不会答应","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48aee3e8f4ee096315b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q77730e3c5799279cfa10","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":531,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:12:00.430Z","text":"拜托，我不是战友，我是反郭的 你看看我和瑞恩的上下文","edited":false,"reply_to":"q896a1d0428028e3eb6b2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77730e3c5799279cfa10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6d5dc53196f0bf25fbfd","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":532,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:12:07.937Z","text":"我挖什么坑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d5dc53196f0bf25fbfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd2aed554741dc28004f9","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":533,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:12:18.290Z","text":"本来我就是反郭的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2aed554741dc28004f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5d40244469f9363ff566","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":534,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:12:31.618Z","text":"你反郭应该反联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2aed554741dc28004f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d40244469f9363ff566","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2aed554741dc28004f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q69e41c36a99313f7fa96","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":535,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:12:39.363Z","text":"怎么联盟变成郭托孤了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69e41c36a99313f7fa96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q6d3fe0a0e4ec28314205","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":536,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:13:01.313Z","text":"你读一下上下文好吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69e41c36a99313f7fa96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d3fe0a0e4ec28314205","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69e41c36a99313f7fa96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb2dfc92291b391d73bbc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":537,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T08:13:20.264Z","text":"你到这里来反郭吗？我们只接受事实证据，别拿你的学识来压人，这里牛人也不少","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77730e3c5799279cfa10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2dfc92291b391d73bbc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77730e3c5799279cfa10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qeb4eb8949372e35a554c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":538,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:13:48.134Z","text":"咱们这个群 就是砸郭的也欢迎","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2dfc92291b391d73bbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb4eb8949372e35a554c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2dfc92291b391d73bbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q408c6e8f493ede048f7d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":539,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:14:18.714Z","text":"我只是想了解下战友的想法，作为闲趣。你要是觉得我能取证，无需回复即可，虽然我不知道取这些证意义是什么。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2dfc92291b391d73bbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q408c6e8f493ede048f7d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2dfc92291b391d73bbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2e4e4018bf76612116f7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":540,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:14:39.786Z","text":"喜国战友确实奇思妙想多，这我很欣慰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4e4018bf76612116f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf965871d16dff63f0938","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":541,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T08:14:48.993Z","text":"砸可以，但得有理有据，让人无话可说才行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb4eb8949372e35a554c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf965871d16dff63f0938","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb4eb8949372e35a554c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q422a8d5e791ed0867157","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":542,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:15:17.781Z","text":"灭爆组、联盟洗地、挖坑取证。等等不知道还有没有人能分析出第四种意图","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q422a8d5e791ed0867157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3516f5c5832f4e08ea01","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":543,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:15:56.140Z","text":"［用户 zci***］  来 我直接问你 你觉得我们这样不能翻案吗 理由是什么？法官对重大程序不正义视而不见？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3516f5c5832f4e08ea01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd47c469bbf95606b86c1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":544,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T08:16:02.636Z","text":"事实在你嘴里成了意图了，你不要这么着急露马脚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q422a8d5e791ed0867157","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd47c469bbf95606b86c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q422a8d5e791ed0867157","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc3688b64ab9f2745e535","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":545,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:16:05.333Z","text":"不砸，放心吧。我有一句话在劝你们回心转意吗？完全不争议，恰恰相反，我支持所有真战友坚持自己的信念。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf965871d16dff63f0938","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3688b64ab9f2745e535","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf965871d16dff63f0938","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q72d5b5836e0521c810e3","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":546,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-09T08:16:22.875Z","text":"第一句就是错的😂 这智商。。我那天就说他智商低 😂 你们还跟他废话这么多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d5b5836e0521c810e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1c08fb7479e31434a9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qda66cdd24d658b57d440","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":547,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:17:05.435Z","text":"天，我露马脚。你的意思我实际上是战友伪装成敌人？想通过和你们真战友的矛盾来深入敌后吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd47c469bbf95606b86c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda66cdd24d658b57d440","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd47c469bbf95606b86c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2a9f22c72cf368041c66","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":548,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:17:33.842Z","text":"我都明说自己不是战友了，何谈漏马脚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a9f22c72cf368041c66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8b0ca006cdd933331362","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":549,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:18:06.571Z","text":"这种“高智商”策略，只有瑞恩能做出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda66cdd24d658b57d440","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b0ca006cdd933331362","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda66cdd24d658b57d440","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2bed375e4a8a042fafe5","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":550,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:19:12.074Z","text":"别谈我了，没意义，我是你们眼中的要么坏人，要么傻子，无所谓；总之你们大致应该觉得今年会出来吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bed375e4a8a042fafe5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q798507abd25cbf93a79f","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":551,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:19:41.736Z","text":"螺丝哥认为今年 我认为两年内","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2bed375e4a8a042fafe5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q798507abd25cbf93a79f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bed375e4a8a042fafe5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9900d6a104ea2c50be99","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":552,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T08:21:19.884Z","text":"好的，那我沉寂一阵，届时再来跟大家谈谈各位如果局面不如意、之后产生的新的见解和策略，再看看之后认为郭什么时候出来。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9900d6a104ea2c50be99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8cc1da14a15801c82492","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":553,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:22:21.704Z","text":"郭案是美国司法的最后一条底裤 如果郭案被定成铁案 川普搞的一切什么maga都是白扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cc1da14a15801c82492","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q94aa0473e45849640268","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":554,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:23:10.258Z","text":"这是核心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94aa0473e45849640268","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd0b8781f6a0166a05211","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":555,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:23:48.725Z","text":"美国最重要的战略资源 被定成铁案 那还搞个屁maga","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0b8781f6a0166a05211","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q39866461f7618bf2811b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":556,"speaker":"niw***","date":"2025-07-09T08:28:05.975Z","text":"9.8号是不是也只是一个说词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39866461f7618bf2811b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8bdcd59e3cb134a54ad5","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":557,"speaker":"niw***","date":"2025-07-09T08:28:31.417Z","text":"就是司法部是一个故意拖延的说词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bdcd59e3cb134a54ad5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q48c2282841e32c43527c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":558,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:28:44.374Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39866461f7618bf2811b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48c2282841e32c43527c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39866461f7618bf2811b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9cc91409d3b7718c1fbc","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":559,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:28:56.821Z","text":"现在司法部 检方 不想拖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cc91409d3b7718c1fbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q71ed6fa2ddb718b84775","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":560,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:29:08.639Z","text":"他们想越快越好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71ed6fa2ddb718b84775","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q9f1389a66f32009ce6b7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":561,"speaker":"niw***","date":"2025-07-09T08:29:15.246Z","text":"那怎么关键时刻法官还休假","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f1389a66f32009ce6b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1415ba99821500ffbcac","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":562,"speaker":"niw***","date":"2025-07-09T08:29:39.323Z","text":"我了解过这个休假","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1415ba99821500ffbcac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qdeb6dade61d73b8e9171","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":563,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:29:49.158Z","text":"休几天？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdeb6dade61d73b8e9171","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbb9deefde9a703410d7d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":564,"speaker":"niw***","date":"2025-07-09T08:30:15.148Z","text":"两个月","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb9deefde9a703410d7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1725b181f8abe8b9a390","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":565,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T08:30:32.780Z","text":"几号到几号？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb9deefde9a703410d7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1725b181f8abe8b9a390","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb9deefde9a703410d7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q5ffc69e33031f599528e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":566,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T09:31:36.971Z","text":"gtv无罪，去年九月甚至八月我就怀疑。一直以来，谁解读啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ffc69e33031f599528e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q518d1c49443f83d223f1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":567,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-09T10:40:47.512Z","text":"今天又给盖尔发了封邮件，告诉他再不撤销我就采取跟朱贝贝一样的行动了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q518d1c49443f83d223f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q3d3a89c66aa0dbaea2e7","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":568,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T12:53:49.578Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1942930143548465325?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d3a89c66aa0dbaea2e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q35e392c8f491d58f3300","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":569,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-09T13:57:00.788Z","text":"当初是怎么对骂半个月的 哈哈哈 好奇","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d3a89c66aa0dbaea2e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e392c8f491d58f3300","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d3a89c66aa0dbaea2e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe78bba72261f8b85cfe8","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":570,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T13:58:03.152Z","text":"https://x.com/ClintLeeset/status/1942944463225225476?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe78bba72261f8b85cfe8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q72e0244c837a99d7100d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":571,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T13:59:11.578Z","text":"想刺激我去攻击习主席。做梦吧！我从来不攻击现在下午。我的目标非常明确。希望老郭赢，然后有机会草逼生孩子。和我扯习主席干什么啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72e0244c837a99d7100d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2b7aa7327282561b3f82","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":572,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-09T14:00:10.500Z","text":"我对习主席，毕恭毕敬，习主席是最伟大的k领导人，带领我走向共同富裕，然后我可以找个老娘们草逼生孩子，我为什么要攻击习主席啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7aa7327282561b3f82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q618be5b99dd6f1a62bc1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":573,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-09T14:00:11.548Z","text":"对，干海外这群流氓，我们不能被他们代表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q618be5b99dd6f1a62bc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qd6b4f6b76625a54b0c5e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":574,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T14:47:25.174Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 你就是推特上的 clint lee？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6b4f6b76625a54b0c5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1c32ea0b3e86580ce7c6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":575,"speaker":"xia***","date":"2025-07-09T14:53:36.692Z","text":"刚刚我和这个clint lee 在推特骂一通","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c32ea0b3e86580ce7c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q1a35f8fb8a1550e57990","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":576,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T14:54:35.566Z","text":"这个 ［用户 zci***］ 就是 Clint Lee 吧, 那个让你骂习近平的人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a35f8fb8a1550e57990","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q802e5e91da34f89c8a77","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":577,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T14:55:46.871Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 螺丝哥已经在法庭文件上说他在郭案里不会攻击共产党。你没看法庭文件？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q802e5e91da34f89c8a77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q69ac082d585d330bf341","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":578,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T14:59:13.958Z","text":"反正这个案子，现在连法官都说不考虑政治因素了，只能遵守法庭规定，除非以后他们解除这个规定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69ac082d585d330bf341","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q902b25b55b445d13e11c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":579,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T14:59:45.610Z","text":"现在就把这个案子当经济案件看吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902b25b55b445d13e11c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb53a5db57137f4610898","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":580,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:11:30.409Z","text":"不是...小兄弟？您螺丝先生攻击、不攻击共产党，跟我无半点关系，我也没有兴趣听他对中共本身的态度如何，你甩我这么句话何意？我都说了自己不是战友，也不劝你们任何真战友回心转意，我就是来观摩奇思妙想的，但请别把各位编织的阴谋里的每个链条思忖下能否和我这个迷之敌人发生串联，没意义，集中精力做营救郭的事。你看人螺丝就很清醒，就是全力吃透法律文件，搭救郭，习主席也无关，这是真战友该有的态度","edited":false,"reply_to":"q802e5e91da34f89c8a77","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb53a5db57137f4610898","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q802e5e91da34f89c8a77","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q00ccc4af7f595fdd8b7a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":581,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T15:12:40.227Z","text":"那你还让螺丝骂习干什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb53a5db57137f4610898","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00ccc4af7f595fdd8b7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb53a5db57137f4610898","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q46c8c54b28af492fc0a6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":582,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:13:29.162Z","text":"你搜下记录，我哪句话映射或直接让他骂习了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c8c54b28af492fc0a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q41fb78142e5f08878a15","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":583,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T15:13:53.592Z","text":"你不是推特上的clint lee吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46c8c54b28af492fc0a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41fb78142e5f08878a15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c8c54b28af492fc0a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q62cf065c6b72e7ad04b2","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":584,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:13:54.751Z","text":"我来这里，就是就事论事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62cf065c6b72e7ad04b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q65049161785a5e5d007a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":585,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:13:59.320Z","text":"谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65049161785a5e5d007a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2c3f0c74704ea0ba2bfb","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":586,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T15:16:06.905Z","text":"这个人不是你？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c3f0c74704ea0ba2bfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qf528aa3048a80fba5436","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":587,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:17:49.181Z","text":"你觉得是我... 我猜是因为我们有一样的“不正常”认识和观点吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf528aa3048a80fba5436","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe77603e8ada15779b152","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":588,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:17:54.416Z","text":"还是都是英文名？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe77603e8ada15779b152","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q76d16966facbeb32b6e6","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":589,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T15:18:11.017Z","text":"所以Clint Lee不是你？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d16966facbeb32b6e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q14b58a32e7144a521f45","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":590,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:18:11.448Z","text":"我们这种观点，在我这个世界，属于“常见”。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14b58a32e7144a521f45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q932eab3d67668a5e2fae","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":591,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:18:49.498Z","text":"no.....但我说不是，想必你也不能信吧，伪类没有诚实可言","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q932eab3d67668a5e2fae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q2d839d0000c279832f5d","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":592,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T15:19:11.581Z","text":"哦，那我认错了，我还以为clint lee就是你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d839d0000c279832f5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qbbe4bc610509b2a1e503","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":593,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:19:17.135Z","text":"所以是不是，你自己看着权衡吧。但我绝对不会让螺丝去骂习主席，这对我毫无意义。我是来听奇思妙想的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbe4bc610509b2a1e503","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb81ef298bd45057c4942","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":594,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-09T15:20:05.112Z","text":"我判定这两个就是同一个人。被人扒皮，它自己不承认，两面三刀。它进本群快一个月了，这两天突然积极起来了。花了一个月的时间观察、想对策呀。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb81ef298bd45057c4942","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q8486f5876813d3704480","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":595,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:20:13.429Z","text":"既然艾特我了，多句嘴，你认为郭何时能出来？想听听不同观点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8486f5876813d3704480","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qe3192d9958f271d9b58e","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":596,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:20:52.035Z","text":"好吧好吧。我都说了我证明不了自己是谁，你认为我是谁都行，但我们就事论事，可以吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb81ef298bd45057c4942","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3192d9958f271d9b58e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb81ef298bd45057c4942","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb6537595c5d17032a20b","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":597,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:21:19.508Z","text":"如果我是他，但我不让螺丝骂习，那么是不是从事实意义上，我也“不是他了” 公允讲？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6537595c5d17032a20b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"q648db295ea39072174aa","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":598,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-09T15:30:50.692Z","text":"都喜欢说话莫名其妙的插英文，什么verdict，sentencing， 之类的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648db295ea39072174aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qb4663fcef8ec553260c1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":599,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:31:42.620Z","text":"还都喜欢acknowledge facts而不是spew conspiracy对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4663fcef8ec553260c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"},{"id":"qc279ca8cec313809c0d1","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":600,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T15:34:31.145Z","text":"抱歉，我一般克制不打英文，刚才你提到了verdict什么的，故意打了一点。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc279ca8cec313809c0d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000012","next_batch_id":"batch-000014"}