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有你这种觉悟的“战友”也不多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40b2948aab26d20f24b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52305be1dfa77d94ea47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40b2948aab26d20f24b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9a8356ae52338bbda3be","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":16,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:43:23.083Z","text":"爆料革命比任何一场革命都更加残酷，表面上歌舞升平、吃吃喝喝、实着、随时都有人被消失，乃至整个家族！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a8356ae52338bbda3be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8dd8c4c1ffd9083bf56a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":17,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:45:01.207Z","text":"七哥的直播看似戏耍、实际是在传递信息，我很早就知道，他们谁和谁是一条线的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dd8c4c1ffd9083bf56a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q596a96e76025dd4b6d1f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":18,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T15:45:48.806Z","text":"哇，说来听听，谁和谁是一条线的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dd8c4c1ffd9083bf56a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q596a96e76025dd4b6d1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dd8c4c1ffd9083bf56a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q1fb1424edb9f59e5edd3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":19,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:45:50.806Z","text":"说早了，最早被人打成伪类了，习惯了🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fb1424edb9f59e5edd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q953df1e4a66851eabdfa","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":20,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T15:46:28.668Z","text":"所以我一直觉得早期好多被打成味蕾的其实都是好人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1fb1424edb9f59e5edd3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953df1e4a66851eabdfa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fb1424edb9f59e5edd3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb0db0de48854c01dcbe8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":21,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T15:47:14.849Z","text":"我对味蕾没什么偏见","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0db0de48854c01dcbe8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q81c1f34d35c9213de013","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":22,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:47:32.217Z","text":"我是在VOG要解散的时候，被打成伪类的，当时6000多人在一起语音","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81c1f34d35c9213de013","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd850f28a428ad0427216","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":23,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:48:08.875Z","text":"因为汇款的事情，我怀疑九指","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd850f28a428ad0427216","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q325dcd77c0f214bcdf3d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":24,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:49:02.468Z","text":"我把他们银行内部交易记录给她了，她硬说没汇款","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q325dcd77c0f214bcdf3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2be278257fe958fc08c1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":25,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:49:50.727Z","text":"还有海洋🌊……很多人都知道，我揭露他们是最早的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2be278257fe958fc08c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa1ee544333d62abf34f1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":26,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T15:50:30.354Z","text":"结果，人家把我打成伪类了，说我是专业的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1ee544333d62abf34f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014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🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q788ed6fe6f55c302786d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q36738218e52c590b49c8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":35,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:04:13.620Z","text":"从VOG一路走来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36738218e52c590b49c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6222caac646bc4976713","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":36,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:04:24.577Z","text":"关系才会不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6222caac646bc4976713","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9f97344404d6d25589e1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":37,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:04:47.314Z","text":"那个时候，没有投资，大家都是情怀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f97344404d6d25589e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q0ef9cf3eb12df25de993","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":38,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:06:51.232Z","text":"一杯小酌是谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ef9cf3eb12df25de993","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q41804b4d566a93a77289","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":39,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:06:59.526Z","text":"我见证了什么叫一秒出卖你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41804b4d566a93a77289","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3eeae2a8e0457cd3be6c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":40,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:07:28.992Z","text":"这个你不知道，说明你来的太晚了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ef9cf3eb12df25de993","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3eeae2a8e0457cd3be6c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ef9cf3eb12df25de993","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qec9807058a9524a3ec69","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":41,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:08:58.450Z","text":"欢腿潘您知道不😹？还有政事小哥，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec9807058a9524a3ec69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb9d841962f5e484b6166","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":42,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:09:20.219Z","text":"我2017年就听郭爆料，但是从来没参与过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9d841962f5e484b6166","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qace758f8fb917c764e91","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":43,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:09:29.888Z","text":"所以联盟农场的事情不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qace758f8fb917c764e91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd23cb2aae5bfaecb257a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":44,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:10:07.045Z","text":"政事小哥我知道听过他直播","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd23cb2aae5bfaecb257a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe8ec7c87868b2184db99","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":45,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:10:27.262Z","text":"“录播”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8ec7c87868b2184db99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb72feed3c5cac73a4e9a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":46,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:10:36.703Z","text":"一杯小酌只听过名字","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb72feed3c5cac73a4e9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_ur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［用户 rui***］ 这服务器能不能后台录音录像","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8f92f38cfcc0e236bec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe47679a4a74470b4b953","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":50,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:12:48.916Z","text":"你是说政事小哥被出卖？还是潘？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe47679a4a74470b4b953","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qcc87fb583a914983ef9b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":51,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:13:03.748Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc87fb583a914983ef9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5955e087ca455ac869d8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":52,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:13:21.961Z","text":"没听懂谁出卖谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5955e087ca455ac869d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd740eba3fceb4218b357","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":53,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:13:42.740Z","text":"鸡腿出卖了…..","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd740eba3fceb4218b357","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6ad9486bff5e6f0beeae","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":54,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:15:07.527Z","text":"我还觉得奇怪，为什么政事小哥后来没出现？是因为这个吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ad9486bff5e6f0beeae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2bba2766d8e5b9277761","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":55,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:16:06.248Z","text":"当时鸡腿也想做政事小哥那样的视频，腿还找小哥请教过，后来有一次小哥在公交站，还是在外面那个公共场所，被鸡腿给发现了，没多久小哥就出事了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bba2766d8e5b9277761","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb55c004678f973789b56","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":56,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:16:40.759Z","text":"他在国内吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55c004678f973789b56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q40bedd91688b54e168f3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":57,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:17:33.457Z","text":"这事当时很热闹，还有将骗子🤥……好多人，在海外想出名的人很多很多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40bedd91688b54e168f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qfc4d97aef63a37cfe0b2","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":58,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:17:39.151Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc4d97aef63a37cfe0b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qecef9f943de7f3cfab48","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":59,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:18:00.230Z","text":"对，反正我就看到郭身边的人一茬一茬的换","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecef9f943de7f3cfab48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q071554f9ea291fb9433f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":60,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:18:23.051Z","text":"我还以为政事小哥转到幕后了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q071554f9ea291fb9433f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q52096526e9f6deb02cd1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":61,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:19:00.478Z","text":"他是被喝茶了？还是人身安全有问题？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52096526e9f6deb02cd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa1b4ba481f673da64f6e","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":62,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:21:19.702Z","text":"人身安全","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1b4ba481f673da64f6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qfd807ecddeeeecaf06ec","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":63,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:21:49.730Z","text":"七哥最早说过要倒下四到五波人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd807ecddeeeecaf06ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9286d9558c0082233f4a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":64,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:22:07.702Z","text":"这才第三波了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9286d9558c0082233f4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q836581ad5f68f845f0f7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":65,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:22:14.988Z","text":"还早呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q836581ad5f68f845f0f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9fc5a9794f68eaee88ef","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":66,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:22:47.989Z","text":"真的假的，早期这么危险？现在螺丝哥都露脸了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fc5a9794f68eaee88ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q17452e799297c3a65f2c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":67,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:23:25.895Z","text":"真的，不露脸直播都找到家了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17452e799297c3a65f2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9eaefaa76c334b516171","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":68,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:24:17.953Z","text":"现在是不是不这么危险了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9eaefaa76c334b516171","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q312d3cb2e7b643925ffa","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":69,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:24:50.464Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q312d3cb2e7b643925ffa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q62d93bf77aefaf06268e","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":70,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:25:10.991Z","text":"基本都疲劳了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62d93bf77aefaf06268e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9b918437a3ef44e9d4b4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":71,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:25:26.882Z","text":"喝茶也不那么紧张了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b918437a3ef44e9d4b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb21aa805e51823049183","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":72,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:27:00.492Z","text":"之前经常听到谁喝茶了，现在听到的很少，咱们一个老椅子，喝茶都8-9次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb21aa805e51823049183","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q09bb57226949b0709116","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":73,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:28:44.044Z","text":"政事小哥太可惜了，我之前很喜欢他的节目","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09bb57226949b0709116","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q906f02387a5315fcdb0c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":74,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T16:29:21.047Z","text":"不知道潘有这么坏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mube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才他妈被面具先生骗的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2bba2766d8e5b9277761","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa198e3184b97bb7f7b02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bba2766d8e5b9277761","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q614a8e1399748db04858","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":76,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T16:45:48.838Z","text":"他们两个见面了？鸡腿不是在国外吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2bba2766d8e5b9277761","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q614a8e1399748db04858","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bba2766d8e5b9277761","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q43efb151d154af30181c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":77,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T16:47:30.827Z","text":"喝茶七八次？是因为啥？七八次都不判？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb21aa805e51823049183","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43efb151d154af30181c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb21aa805e51823049183","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qafa08016c8388892a5fc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":78,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T16:49:20.058Z","text":"面具先生模仿的真实小哥。真实小哥比较智慧，声音也好听","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa198e3184b97bb7f7b02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa08016c8388892a5fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa198e3184b97bb7f7b02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa5c32efab260c97ddb9f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":79,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:50:29.490Z","text":"是的，他后来好像还请来了 小哥 站台做节目，不然我不可能信他，万万没想到 他把钱给了久指妖  所以 久指妖，面具先生，长岛 三人 其实是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qafa08016c8388892a5fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5c32efab260c97ddb9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa08016c8388892a5fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q371240e5266ead2ec8fe","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":80,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T16:53:30.120Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1943444169609089449?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q371240e5266ead2ec8fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9a1f5dd5084ea2c830fe","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":81,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T16:55:05.216Z","text":"2min19sec, Chunk Chyi in X, July 10, 2025:\n为了给老郭定罪，检方它最不应该做的就是把联盟农场也搞成老郭的共谋犯。这是一个最大的败笔。你联盟农场己经是法庭认定的共谋犯！这是检方申请的法庭命令里明确写明的。\n你既然是共谋犯，这个逻辑它就不自洽了。对于这法庭上Luc带出的债权人及盖尔Geyer、喜交所登记，还有数字银行带出的，共8-9千人啦。对于这8-9千人，你检方想把他们当作受害者是不是呀？在检方的眼里都是受害者呀。问题是这些人全都是由联盟农场最核心的成员组织、策划和实施的。联盟农场组织组织这些人来要钱。而联盟农场己经是被认定的犯罪份子！犯罪分子组织的这帮债权人，他们没有资格成为受害者，也没有资格成为第三方。\n最轻的结果，就是我将要求法官将它驳回。这是法官没办法拒绝的，因为其背后就是犯罪分子。\n这么长时间这8-9千人没岀来说话、没人去取消与联盟的合作。那我就认为你们都是同谋犯啦！我这100%是合理的，因为你们坚定地与犯罪分子站在了一起、言行一致地同犯罪分子站在了一起、无条件地与犯罪分子站在了一起！所以我说你们也是共谋犯、你们也是犯罪份子！检方搞的这个把联盟农场弄成共谋犯，它往左走可以、往右走也可以；逻辑不自洽、完全矛盾、完全扯蛋、这么大的漏洞它是逃不过去的。\n这只是漏洞之一。郭文贵鼓动债权人登记、防碍司法、虚假索赔，那是另外一个漏洞。我就不说那个了啦。\n就这个漏洞我看检方怎么圆，你们登记的这些人，如果你们不岀来作证，我就说你们是共谋犯。\n（完）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a1f5dd5084ea2c830fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q93aecb5ec0185826e6fd","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":82,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T16:57:52.964Z","text":"因为口语和书面语的不同，没有完全按原始的语音记录，以符合文字表达的逻辑。这样做对之后借助翻译软件翻译出来的东西才更合理。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93aecb5ec0185826e6fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q01db49617d468b12c201","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":83,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T16:58:33.261Z","text":"九和长岛一伙？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5c32efab260c97ddb9f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01db49617d468b12c201","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5c32efab260c97ddb9f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6d19a7f44f72ee190029","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":84,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T17:00:06.727Z","text":"［用户 lon***］  你看看这个  我们的钱 要么在长岛手里，要么在这6个人手里","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d19a7f44f72ee190029","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe503c1c783ed5768158f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":85,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T17:07:12.565Z","text":"没看到有写哪六个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d19a7f44f72ee190029","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe503c1c783ed5768158f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d19a7f44f72ee190029","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3889810b18ee846a2fa4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":86,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T17:07:38.739Z","text":"。。。有没有可能是你不懂英文","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe503c1c783ed5768158f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3889810b18ee846a2fa4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe503c1c783ed5768158f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5312e7eb35afc26036f1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":87,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T17:08:04.633Z","text":"是的 不太熟。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3889810b18ee846a2fa4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5312e7eb35afc26036f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3889810b18ee846a2fa4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q7dde2fba3279974df053","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":88,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T17:08:28.426Z","text":"**Translation of Chunk Chyi's X Post, July 10, 2025 (2min19sec):**\n\nTo convict Guo, the prosecution's biggest mistake was to also label the Alliance Farm as Guo's co-conspirator. This is their greatest blunder. The Alliance Farm has already been explicitly designated as a co-conspirator in the court order requested by the prosecution!\n\nSince you are a co-conspirator, the logic falls apart. Regarding the creditors in court brought up by Luc, together with Geyer, the registration with the Himalaya Exchange, and the digital bank, there are 8,000 to 9,000 people involved. Does the prosecution want to treat these 8,000 to 9,000 people as victims? In the prosecution's eyes, they are all victims. The problem is, these people were all organized, planned, and mobilized by the core members of the Alliance Farm. The Alliance Farm orchestrated these people to demand money. Yet, the Alliance Farm has already been designated as a criminal entity! Creditors organized by criminals have no standing to be considered victims or third parties.\n\nAt the very least, I will request the judge to dismiss it. The judge cannot refuse this because it’s backed by the fact that they are criminals.\n\nFor so long, these 8,000 to 9,000 people haven’t spoken out, and none have canceled their cooperation with the Alliance. So, I consider you all co-conspirators! This is 100% reasonable because you have steadfastly stood with the criminals, acted in unison with the criminals, and unconditionally aligned with the criminals! Therefore, I say you are co-conspirators, you are criminals! The prosecution’s move to label the Alliance Farm as a co-conspirator can go left or right; the logic is inconsistent, completely contradictory, and utterly nonsense. They cannot escape this massive loophole.\n\nThis is just one of the loopholes. Guo Wengui inciting creditors to register, obstructing justice, and making false claims is another loophole. I won’t even get into that.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dde2fba3279974df053","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q0c432dad9f9b4ce84336","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":89,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T17:09:10.573Z","text":"你帮螺丝哥翻译的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7dde2fba3279974df053","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c432dad9f9b4ce84336","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dde2fba3279974df053","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2a4a1b219f59760501a3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":90,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T17:09:58.489Z","text":"This is just one of the loopholes. Guo Wengui inciting creditors to register, obstructing justice, and making false claims is another loophole. I won’t even get into that.\n\nWith just this loophole, let’s see how the prosecution explains it. For those of you who registered, if you don’t come forward to testify, I’ll say you’re co-conspirators.\n\n(The End)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a4a1b219f59760501a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q334fd55d7983d61c5209","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":91,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T17:10:56.560Z","text":"是的。借助Grok翻译软件，稍微把关一下就好了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c432dad9f9b4ce84336","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q334fd55d7983d61c5209","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c432dad9f9b4ce84336","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qdfdfdcdb3e800af4cf36","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":92,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T17:22:13.820Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/1943708379165110718?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfdfdcdb3e800af4cf36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q40d90e0820c74e26df2e","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":93,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T18:36:55.301Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1942811117551772079?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40d90e0820c74e26df2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q91964ee6fcd9052fad75","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":94,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T18:37:13.910Z","text":"2min18sec, Chunk Chyi in X, July 10, 2025:\n填过债权人登记、喜交所登记、数字银行登记，包括那个政府没收程序，那800个请愿，我现在想跟你们说的是，等到对老郭下了没收令，之后我会上。\n我会指控你们，你们没有资格成为第三方，你们也没有资格成为受害者。你们是共谋犯。\n这8-9千人，你们不是听小羊的吗？他说如果你们取消，你们就是做伪证。\n好呀！你们别取消，我现在是法庭上合法的受害者呀。我已经引用《犯罪受害者权益法案》了！在法官下面她用两个命令收拾我了。我没办法呀。我要活命呀。我只能当受害者了。我现在是合法的受害者。我会要求法官把你们这些人全部驳回去，因为法庭已经认定了联盟农场，根据388法令、根据检方的指控，联盟农场那些领导人是法庭认定的共谋犯。共谋犯组织了债权人登记、组织了喜交所登记、组织了数字银行登记、组织了政府没收程序的800个请愿，甚至还包括其他的，有一个算一个。我会要求法官把这些全部驳回去。你们没有资格成为受害者，你们也没有资格成为第三方。我们认为你们是共谋犯。\n你们是共谋犯。你们骗了我两万美金还不拉倒，你们现在8-9千人上来还抢我的2万块钱。我要求法官不但要驳回你们，我还要求检方调查你们。你们是犯罪份子！\n你们不是不取消吗？我希望你们继续坚持。要不你们跟我上、要不你们就自述、要不就联系老郭的律师。\n司法行动才是最有效的行动；其它的都是装B、扯蛋：做视频、请愿啦、抗议都是扯蛋。\n我个人就喜欢简单直接：直接用司法行动。等下没收令之后我就会发动意。\n你们登记的这些人、你们要钱的这些人，你们没有资格成为受害者，你们也没有资格成为第三方。你们是共谋犯。有种你们就别取消；有种你们就别联系老郭的律师去作证。好不好？你们全是共谋犯，因为是联盟农场组织的你们；你们对联盟农场言听计从；你们跟共谋犯100%是一伙的。\n你们没资格拿我的钱；你们也没资格要回你们的钱。\n\n（完）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91964ee6fcd9052fad75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q29ef0e74082b41bace9f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":95,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T18:38:31.261Z","text":"前面一个是2分19秒\n这个是2分18秒\n以示区别😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29ef0e74082b41bace9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb4441465c43a4c967fbe","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":96,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-11T18:38:36.193Z","text":"学霸的习惯","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91964ee6fcd9052fad75","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4441465c43a4c967fbe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91964ee6fcd9052fad75","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q7fffd3702aa506fdd657","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":97,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T18:46:13.587Z","text":"早就是烂大街的事儿了，怎么还分析的那么津津有味 \nhttps://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/1943318017217327361?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fffd3702aa506fdd657","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa2e4136e8c6953e945b3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":98,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T18:51:27.508Z","text":"**Translation of Chunk Chyi's X Post, July 10, 2025 (2min18sec):**\n\nTo those who registered as creditors, with the Himalaya Exchange, the digital bank, or the 800 petitions in the government forfeiture process, I want to tell you now: once the forfeiture order is issued against Guo, I will take action.\n\nI will accuse you—you are not qualified to be third parties, nor are you qualified to be victims. You are co-conspirators.\n\nThese 8,000 to 9,000 people, didn’t you listen to Little Sheep? He said if you cancel, you’re committing perjury. Fine! Don’t cancel. I am now a legally recognized victim in court. I’ve already invoked the *Crime Victims’ Rights Act*! The judge has issued two orders against me. I have no choice—I need to survive. I can only be a victim. I am now a legally recognized victim. I will request the judge to dismiss all of you, because the court has already determined, under Section 388 and the prosecution’s allegations, that the leaders of the Alliance Farm are court-designated co-conspirators. These co-conspirators organized the creditor registrations, the Himalaya Exchange registrations, the digital bank registrations, the 800 petitions in the government forfeiture process, and even more—one by one. I will request the judge to dismiss all of them. You are not qualified to be victims, nor are you qualified to be third parties. We consider you co-conspirators.\n\nYou are co-conspirators. You scammed me out of $20,000, and that’s not enough—now you 8,000 to 9,000 people are coming to grab my $20,000. I will not only request the judge to dismiss you, but I will also demand that the prosecution investigate you. You are criminals!\n\nYou’re not canceling, are you? I hope you keep holding on. Either face me in court, confess, or contact Guo’s lawyer.\n\nJudicial action is the most effective action; everything else is nonsense—making videos, petitioning, protesting, all nonsense.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e4136e8c6953e945b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4b410ec408ba42177198","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":99,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T18:53:31.082Z","text":"Judicial action is the most effective action; everything else is nonsense—making videos, petitioning, protesting, all nonsense.\n\nI personally prefer simple and direct: direct judicial action. After the forfeiture order, I will take action.\n\nThose of you who registered, those of you demanding money, you are not qualified to be victims, nor are you qualified to be third parties. You are co-conspirators. If you’ve got the guts, don’t cancel. If you’ve got the guts, don’t contact Guo’s lawyer to testify. Alright? You are all co-conspirators because the Alliance Farm organized you. You obey the Alliance Farm completely; you are 100% aligned with the co-conspirators.\n\nYou have no right to take my money; you have no right to demand your money back.\n\n(The End)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b410ec408ba42177198","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4ba3a70b91e3a6082143","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":100,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T18:56:57.438Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/1943744561710575801?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ba3a70b91e3a6082143","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3b8f922e893f76a83211","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":101,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T18:58:19.628Z","text":"学霸发威了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2e4136e8c6953e945b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8f922e893f76a83211","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e4136e8c6953e945b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q0ab622e9f56b42c9a84b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":102,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T19:27:12.752Z","text":"那盖尔是不是也得上庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ab622e9f56b42c9a84b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8fc9193a21d52b85dbe8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":103,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T19:29:23.871Z","text":"那我没参加债权人，是不是没法对luc说啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fc9193a21d52b85dbe8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2b720ea4df14cb5f84e8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":104,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T19:55:01.585Z","text":"不同意luc的债权人拿我的钱，因为他的债权人是共谋犯组织的，对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b720ea4df14cb5f84e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q84ffe3e38d53a8e597c2","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":105,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T19:55:49.474Z","text":"必须要说明他的债权人的来历并经清楚索赔金额是怎么回事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84ffe3e38d53a8e597c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5f0c505caeeb2ffa8e6d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":106,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T20:11:04.629Z","text":"盖尔理你了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd921a9f628b076d3fa47","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0c505caeeb2ffa8e6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc06d86169967f33e2efc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":107,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T20:14:06.092Z","text":"没，发了三封信了，各种口气都用上了，还是没反应","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f0c505caeeb2ffa8e6d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc06d86169967f33e2efc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0c505caeeb2ffa8e6d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qf1874b3a9e1699171f04","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":108,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T20:16:59.391Z","text":"朱贝贝的动议，法官好像还是没反应？盖尔倒是反应的贼快","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc06d86169967f33e2efc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1874b3a9e1699171f04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc06d86169967f33e2efc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9f72d1397089e97d6484","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":109,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T20:17:15.331Z","text":"他对你咋没反应","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f72d1397089e97d6484","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb717d8fe18fa3369a2c5","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":110,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-11T20:21:29.369Z","text":"我那天和盖尔打电话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1874b3a9e1699171f04","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb717d8fe18fa3369a2c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/m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还想收律师费？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q610bdbd047ca7db8b769","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qba9c18241beeacc20039","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":118,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-11T20:23:37.385Z","text":"那为什么盖尔不理螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba9c18241beeacc20039","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa01e84b51d5c3b7042e7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":119,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-11T20:23:46.268Z","text":"我给他飚电话过去 说紧急事件 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这是非常要命的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2257e8e6a8b5c11dd8d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd067688865b79d433ba0","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":143,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-11T22:41:49.506Z","text":"那chatgpt也不行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3dd7e65314ed94c71154","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd067688865b79d433ba0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dd7e65314ed94c71154","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd0600712cd430d9da896","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":144,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-11T22:49:44.473Z","text":"x是私有公司，主要股东是马斯克，openai应该背后还是美国人多一些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0600712cd430d9da896","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2c1fa545166eb1148dd9","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":145,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-11T22:50:04.799Z","text":"openai以后应该是奔上市去的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c1fa545166eb1148dd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q43eca74e07070fbb25ca","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":146,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-11T22:50:33.666Z","text":"凭马斯克的个性肯定听党的话会特别露骨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43eca74e07070fbb25ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q85933dd749a5bd4dc1fd","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":147,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-11T22:51:27.620Z","text":"ChatGPT的简体中文最近好一些了，最起码政治态度和cia经营的wiki一个层次了。没有完整测试，个别回答的感受如此","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85933dd749a5bd4dc1fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q60c3f10f8cf6df5c56e1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":148,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-11T22:53:02.445Z","text":"但是问七哥案子的话，可以以代号代替七哥的名字，让AI以为这是一个假想的案子，这样就不会被干扰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60c3f10f8cf6df5c56e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb09d3626ec533f127bed","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":149,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-11T23:07:48.276Z","text":"政事小哥后来做了个基督教频道，后来也安全回国过，不用太担心","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09bb57226949b0709116","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09d3626ec533f127bed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09bb57226949b0709116","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q98cb6898e6dde3df662c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":150,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T23:19:10.923Z","text":"马勒戈壁的   都是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5dd27eedfd471ca024b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98cb6898e6dde3df662c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dd27eedfd471ca024b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q53b9c3ba536892fef20c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":151,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T23:23:22.736Z","text":"用了 grok 后 就抛弃 chatGpt 了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60c3f10f8cf6df5c56e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53b9c3ba536892fef20c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60c3f10f8cf6df5c56e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd2573d1704b551d6f0da","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":152,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T23:28:04.186Z","text":"percy 的节目谁看了  有什么想法？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2573d1704b551d6f0da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q84060ef1c300bb2531c6","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":153,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-11T23:30:02.670Z","text":"Perscy的视频，我一个也没有看过。但是，我知道，她解读文件，超过绝大多数人。她知道的比我多的多。破产案那边，她也知道很多。我对破产案，几乎没有看过文件。只有几个而已，还是扫了一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2573d1704b551d6f0da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84060ef1c300bb2531c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2573d1704b551d6f0da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q638e7ecf1e0d7731c4f6","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":154,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T01:52:02.351Z","text":"根据percy的解读，我会亲自 打电话给 这个律师，证实一下，看 是不是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q638e7ecf1e0d7731c4f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q693b2359a2ca18a3c895","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":155,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T01:52:21.051Z","text":"看这个伪类 有没有瞎扯 带偏我们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693b2359a2ca18a3c895","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q862cd9bfaaedd3105dfc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":156,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T01:52:49.799Z","text":"上次就鼓动老子去 要钱，花了一笔 法庭费用  分比 没捞到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q862cd9bfaaedd3105dfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8b3ce19e20db082ca719","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":157,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T01:55:43.104Z","text":"上周我跟律师联系，律师亲自跟我说  不确定一定能要到钱啊，percy 今天说 肯定能要到 还有多的  [屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b3ce19e20db082ca719","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q614878b86c7446700364","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":158,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-12T02:41:45.881Z","text":"去哪里要钱啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q638e7ecf1e0d7731c4f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q614878b86c7446700364","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q638e7ecf1e0d7731c4f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q15f1c708a8b17c864f8c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":159,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T02:42:38.959Z","text":"法院","edited":false,"reply_to":"q614878b86c7446700364","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15f1c708a8b17c864f8c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q614878b86c7446700364","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb0e41100bba3648cbe1a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":160,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-12T02:50:51.054Z","text":"凤姐是不是拿到政治庇护了啊？和民运举牌子抗议，然后庇护","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0e41100bba3648cbe1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q936e800d6fe69379aa59","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":161,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T02:52:31.521Z","text":"好像要被驱逐了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0e41100bba3648cbe1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q936e800d6fe69379aa59","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0e41100bba3648cbe1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q1c15dc4cac92fe0d8370","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":162,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:00:11.760Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1943048822621450555?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c15dc4cac92fe0d8370","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qbb9fdf54cf1e29ae1e0c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":163,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:01:19.889Z","text":"TestYourHeart's 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吗？能用《犯罪受害者权益法案》吗？对不起，我反对。我才是真正的受害者。他们只能当一个身份。我认为这8-9千人也是共谋犯。这8-9千人跟郭文贵、跟其他的共谋犯合伙坑了我两万美元；然后他们还要把我的两万美元洗走。这是检方的指控、这是法庭的命令。我不管实际是什么样子。我严格遵守法律文件。你法庭文件敢这么说，我就敢这么解读。\n…………\n这8-9千人………如果不取消债权人登记，不取消喜交所登记，不和喜交所解除协议，我就认为他们是共谋犯，因为他们对联盟农场言听计从。他们是100%的共谋犯。\n根据文件382检方的起诉书，还有文件388的法庭认定，法庭认定联盟农场是被告郭文贵的共谋犯成员，这个案子就非常简单。…………这全都是联盟农场核心组织策划实行的。不是其他人，而是联盟农场这个共谋犯搞的。\n所以，我要求法官驳回这8-9千人。不但驳回，我建议检方逮捕这些人，这些人是共谋犯成员，他们没有资格当受害者，没有资格当什么853(n)第三方！我说的这一切完全是基于法庭逻辑，完全是基于法庭命令，不是我瞎猜，也不是我意淫，这就是法庭的逻辑！\n检方要给我一个说法，检方为什么要允许共谋犯8-9千人上来要我的钱？检方要给我回复；法官要给我主持公道。\n这个案件不是按你的方法理解的，你要按照检方逻辑来理解，你要按照法庭的逻辑来理解。检方是公诉人呐。法庭在主导这个案件，你检方怎么指控、法庭怎么判，那我就怎么理解。我100%尊重法庭，我100%尊重法律，我100%尊重法庭命令。法庭命令让我干啥我干啥。\n…………\n谁敢站出来说这不是联盟农场干的？检方不知道吗？FBI不知道吗？这些东西都是网络公开的。\n………………\n\n联盟农场是核心组成、策划、操作和实施的。不是别人！别人是指挥不动这些人的，对吧？连检方自己都这么说嘛！这些人对文贵很忠诚，这些人跟文贵是一伙的。……，债权人登记我知道老郭亲自参与了、下口头命令了，说你们可以去登记啊。但是还是联盟农场具体实施的。喜交所、债权人、政府没收程序，老郭有没有打电话？请检方告诉我。\n……………\n法庭命令法官必须遵守吧？法官下的命令你自己必须遵守吧？对不起，把这些人给我打回去。并且我建议检方调查这些人、逮捕这些人，这完全是合理的要求。\n（完）\n(原文共6分钟，因为是几条语音加在一起的，有很多重复内容，最后都用………号省略掉了，但是还是保留了原来的文字顺序。)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb9fdf54cf1e29ae1e0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe0820c40a70a2364df5d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":164,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:16:04.075Z","text":"联盟农场是核心组成、策划、操作和实施的。不是别人！别人是指挥不动这些人的，对吧？连检方自己都这么说嘛！这些人对文贵很忠诚，这些人跟文贵是一伙的。……，债权人登记我知道老郭亲自参与了、下口头命令了，说你们可以去登记啊。但是还是联盟农场具体实施的。喜交所、债权人、政府没收程序，老郭有没有打电话？请检方告诉我。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0820c40a70a2364df5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qbba19cd9c9648a41d635","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":165,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:17:32.430Z","text":"真他吗的 累啊 。。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba19cd9c9648a41d635","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd51591d558867491a9b6","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":166,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:17:59.009Z","text":"被这群骗子 折腾的  身心俱疲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd51591d558867491a9b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qcbdc2780a8b2e921c90f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":167,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:18:19.061Z","text":"不想发财了  拿回本钱归隐山林","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbdc2780a8b2e921c90f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qae40afce3683e82f57f6","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":168,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:19:20.053Z","text":"［用户 rui***］  这是天道里的谁 😂   我真的干不动了  太累了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae40afce3683e82f57f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q69c9702e48a9c01e26e1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":169,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:20:40.423Z","text":"老郭不出来，我们必须持续关注，还我清白！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd51591d558867491a9b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69c9702e48a9c01e26e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd51591d558867491a9b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qbdcc706dfac1918f1ba7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":170,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:20:48.318Z","text":"还好有机器人了，不然自己查资料 学习 得 耗费多少精力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdcc706dfac1918f1ba7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q1d5e7f874d6b43149546","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":171,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:23:20.054Z","text":"我跟我老公有一段时间天天为此事争吵，现在有点吵累了，但是彼此在这件事上还不认同。在这件事上我一定要赢、也一定会赢。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d5e7f874d6b43149546","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd06e69d186dd46f7803c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":172,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:24:39.661Z","text":"佩服你的毅力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd06e69d186dd46f7803c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2ae2a1d498ae20d53fae","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":173,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:26:54.542Z","text":"我投资的钱也要有回报。我是一分钱彩票都不买的人。但是我投资了喜币、GTV, A10. 我要证明我的选择是对的。文贵赢了才是我们大家都赢了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae2a1d498ae20d53fae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q419524ca6dcd09b85f62","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":174,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:26:58.744Z","text":"可以派 瑞哥 去跟你老公理论一番，他的话 非常有说服力，当然要有智商理解他的话 才行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q419524ca6dcd09b85f62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qcc357463bc4e65aa770a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":175,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:27:44.290Z","text":"我老公是粪坑里的石头：又硬又臭。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc357463bc4e65aa770a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q44887d784bac9f030a93","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":176,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-12T03:32:06.928Z","text":"你是有使命的人 👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ae2a1d498ae20d53fae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44887d784bac9f030a93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae2a1d498ae20d53fae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q77420fcc4b4ff55bcc2f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":177,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T03:45:24.482Z","text":"应该是吧。我只是一个小民，尽量把事情做得最好、极致。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44887d784bac9f030a93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77420fcc4b4ff55bcc2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44887d784bac9f030a93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd4adc8b627c63903131c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":178,"speaker":"jun***","date":"2025-07-12T03:48:44.928Z","text":"这个冲锋就是个跳梁小丑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97533e9cf98a4009331b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4adc8b627c63903131c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qf1aae67c7b06c2f560e0","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":179,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-12T03:54:25.271Z","text":"政治庇护，反共，宗教迫害，计划生育也算但是明确几乎可以忽略了。反共，宗教尤其基督教迫害，这两条路是政治庇护的大头。也是最黑的。看样子，也行可能大概，709加维权也可以开辟新天地","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1aae67c7b06c2f560e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qaf34fe951b1be56c6ca3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":180,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T05:59:07.525Z","text":"好像没有你这号人🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae40afce3683e82f57f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf34fe951b1be56c6ca3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae40afce3683e82f57f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q48df9a5a329e5a8fd3b6","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":181,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T06:45:50.567Z","text":"转换成这种文档格式，再发给文贵的律师，大家看怎么样？\n小羊一定会说：不行、不行、千万别超限战律师。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48df9a5a329e5a8fd3b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q46b2db435f027df6479c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":182,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-12T07:01:31.835Z","text":"你倒是想归隐呢，如果Rico成立，你的命运可能比凤姐还惨，可以说所有参加投资的，尤其在欧美的，现在是没有退路的，必须干赢这场官司","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae40afce3683e82f57f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46b2db435f027df6479c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae40afce3683e82f57f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc8712fdc08f875a387c8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":183,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:14:22.732Z","text":"不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46b2db435f027df6479c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8712fdc08f875a387c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46b2db435f027df6479c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q0d02f2510143e9d1e98a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":184,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:14:37.891Z","text":"这是小羊瞎几把扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d02f2510143e9d1e98a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qbbcdc4c99eace93ce6bc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":185,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:17:01.744Z","text":"ava说的这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbcdc4c99eace93ce6bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3f13054af6bc78b452f5","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":186,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T07:22:34.128Z","text":"把她的这个快速译成英文，发给文贵的律师来对证一下。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7595a672b8cf1bcdc28","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f13054af6bc78b452f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd13015db92f031418d2c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":187,"speaker":"rui**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我他妈必须发","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f13054af6bc78b452f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd13015db92f031418d2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f13054af6bc78b452f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q80dca5ec51e497316f7f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":188,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-12T07:23:50.925Z","text":"不翻案，倾家荡产","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46b2db435f027df6479c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80dca5ec51e497316f7f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46b2db435f027df6479c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4e1cc0f1d909e910c0b5","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":189,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:24:00.106Z","text":"［用户 sar***］  我跟你说 如果这是假的 ava作为检方证人 你编造被告的监狱暴力行为 是要干什么？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e1cc0f1d909e910c0b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q27e7498012402540d0ed","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":190,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-12T07:24:33.509Z","text":"不是钱的问题，是犯罪团伙，一辈子的案底，搞不好还得吃牢饭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q80dca5ec51e497316f7f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27e7498012402540d0ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80dca5ec51e497316f7f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q1cc9b03d1f162b61417a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":191,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:24:41.116Z","text":"［用户 sar***］  如果这是真的 ava作为检方证人 你泄漏被告联邦监狱暴力行为的敏感信息  你想干什么？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cc9b03d1f162b61417a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9ee2d64c81c1e9870c86","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":192,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T07:25:36.512Z","text":"快点行动哈。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1cc9b03d1f162b61417a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ee2d64c81c1e9870c86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cc9b03d1f162b61417a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qfb1d62ae203d5f2d1566","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":193,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-12T07:26:16.813Z","text":"别动不动就发给律师，最好整理一下他们造假误导郭支持者的所有证据，汇总一个专题材料，再发给律师。珍惜每一次机会 ［用户 rui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q3f13054af6bc78b452f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb1d62ae203d5f2d1566","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f13054af6bc78b452f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8c028807e1a71bc684b8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":194,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:26:47.776Z","text":"我已经把他们所有违法犯罪的事实全都捅了一遍","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb1d62ae203d5f2d1566","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c028807e1a71bc684b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb1d62ae203d5f2d1566","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q95c9602f3041a21d5840","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":195,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:26:55.899Z","text":"所有的都捅了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95c9602f3041a21d5840","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe5bdc3f71c3759ad2f71","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":196,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:26:58.148Z","text":"你能想到的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5bdc3f71c3759ad2f71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8a0b5773120aec94d9bf","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":197,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:27:08.000Z","text":"这个 我就是针对ava的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a0b5773120aec94d9bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q78bc27faf06a2aec086f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":198,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-12T07:27:13.214Z","text":"因为ava这个太严重！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78bc27faf06a2aec086f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qfdfa59579063776fa8f9","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":199,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-12T07:27:16.281Z","text":"最好整理一下，不要搞成聊天，一句一句的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdfa59579063776fa8f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q87d5f0dc29d77231ff5b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":200,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-12T07:27:21.719Z","text":"我以前还是Ava的粉丝，羡慕两口子齐心灭共并支持爆料革命和文贵。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d5f0dc29d77231ff5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000013","next_batch_id":"batch-000015"}