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问辩方律师会如何抓这俩人漏洞？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q062ae56bd38967ce33ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qba99a40e3c5a0257564f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":621,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:08:58.918Z","text":"七星都改成大麻叶了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed632ad79acd6577e8bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba99a40e3c5a0257564f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed632ad79acd6577e8bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9cd604cff6b0415710d0","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":622,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T08:10:27.565Z","text":"Eva青藤这块绝对不是这几个人搞得，这是系统性支持的。得fbi查才行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cd604cff6b0415710d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q486c2f3b8ea592f78f65","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":623,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:31:18.721Z","text":"如果这案子就这么结束了，感觉不应该，nfsc咖位还是太小了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q486c2f3b8ea592f78f65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3b312616f9c543dae8b7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":624,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:32:07.259Z","text":"刚才问gpt，很重要一点是，如果av这些人是串通起来有目的的误导别人，那就是犯罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b312616f9c543dae8b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc9637ec4949fa7545ade","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":625,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:32:23.201Z","text":"还记得以前老提的rico和fisa吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9637ec4949fa7545ade","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qdb3c68916f92f06bc002","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":626,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:32:31.554Z","text":"我相信他们都在暗中观察","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb3c68916f92f06bc002","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8f581ef07ebb4ac65b8a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":627,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:32:58.291Z","text":"fisa提过一两次就不再提了，朱利安尼应该熟悉这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f581ef07ebb4ac65b8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q93f5b5de38e4a209c591","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":628,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:34:02.691Z","text":"rico和fisa抓住他们这些kol背后的老大，那剧本就完美了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93f5b5de38e4a209c591","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q552ee141ab80f606174c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":629,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T08:35:40.466Z","text":"他不就是和整个联盟串通共谋吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b312616f9c543dae8b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q552ee141ab80f606174c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b312616f9c543dae8b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qcdbf75d22c2ae5954a49","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":630,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:36:18.747Z","text":"共谋未必是rico","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdbf75d22c2ae5954a49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qacbf905d9638864a9db3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":631,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:38:09.527Z","text":"如果最后因为诈骗刑事案共谋就把他们给办了感觉不像七哥手笔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacbf905d9638864a9db3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9fc0711dc9c8dad55f9c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":632,"speaker":"rui***","d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会负隅顽抗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3779612f354041d3dd69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qca3ee7fe2b128bd26878","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":635,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:38:56.620Z","text":"这个也可能是另案处理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca3ee7fe2b128bd26878","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q366bc09d9b6f49d6cfe4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":636,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:39:06.617Z","text":"诈骗刑事案先dismiss","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q366bc09d9b6f49d6cfe4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q59d6688ee9d66201492b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":637,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:45:26.445Z","text":"如果MG掌握线索显示围绕AV的KOL网络涉及境外操作或资金、并系统性误导司法程序，则其律师团队可通过RICO建构共谋结构，并在必要时引入FISA机制，促成跨境数据与控制者调查。这种组合不仅可用于减轻MG责任，还可能为后续反击网络构建战略空间。关键在于证据扎实、操作合法、节奏谨慎。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59d6688ee9d66201492b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5cf74c54364a29530731","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":638,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T08:46:01.819Z","text":"卧槽","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59d6688ee9d66201492b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf74c54364a29530731","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59d6688ee9d66201492b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qae0eb86c4ea00915bba4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":639,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:46:25.191Z","text":"想要用rico和fisa清理美国，得另外起诉，所以现在先让七哥赢这个案子很有帮助","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae0eb86c4ea00915bba4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q52d4ea716f6c49a0ef94","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":640,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T08:46:25.264Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 这个就是你说的 联盟农场共谋陷害郭文贵","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52d4ea716f6c49a0ef94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc6c4ff2c2f1acbf9d0ac","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":641,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:47:02.956Z","text":"gpt说要另外起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6c4ff2c2f1acbf9d0ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5d925df1dce20e83f86e","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":642,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:47:45.755Z","text":"七哥肯定不会止步在联盟农场露脸的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d925df1dce20e83f86e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qf92aeccbc6e254d52d40","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":643,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:47:59.899Z","text":"肯定要钓大鱼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf92aeccbc6e254d52d40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9f6d7f5ab76b4595e3c8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":644,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:48:52.443Z","text":"这个案子，把rico的证据搞得扎扎实实了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f6d7f5ab76b4595e3c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd20544c7f618f4f0f0e1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":645,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:49:18.170Z","text":"至少打了个坚实的地基","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd20544c7f618f4f0f0e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q1a78118964712fdc91c3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":646,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:49:55.793Z","text":"多少老外都在看着呢，班农那边的人，还有很多以前我们都不知道的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a78118964712fdc91c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe3af50f17afce282284d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":647,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:51:42.849Z","text":"MG最佳策略是先稳妥处理当前刑事诈骗案，尽可能减轻量刑或达成有利协议，建立服从司法的形象。之后再展开对围绕AV等KOL网络的RICO民事反击，并在适当阶段引入FISA线索以扩大打击范围。这种“先守后攻”的节奏，更安全、更有说服力，也更容易赢得法院与公众的支持。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3af50f17afce282284d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6947a5ad9f06cbd4fa78","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":648,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:52:06.798Z","text":"https://chatgpt.com/share/687373aa-eba4-800c-9c1e-59600483270d","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6947a5ad9f06cbd4fa78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4a221d21a07b9d65d21f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":649,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:54:31.433Z","text":"这一些下来感觉也得好几年，估计就是所谓的赤马红羊劫的主要戏码之一了。今年应该主要还是刑事案的了结和中南坑的变化吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a221d21a07b9d65d21f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qbca6bbc5d4e7770efc75","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":650,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T08:55:10.259Z","text":"中南坑一有变，估计没你们刑事案也会很快了结了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbca6bbc5d4e7770efc75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q257a31e2cb288bda2a1c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":651,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-13T09:03:14.637Z","text":"你的疑问，卢克可以解答","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39965e00820d3346548e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q257a31e2cb288bda2a1c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39965e00820d3346548e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q496bdad6ca3c701da61a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":6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chu***］  我们如果能找一个 又是受害者 又是共谋的例子 就牛逼了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q496bdad6ca3c701da61a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q138458bb8c6ae86b099a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":653,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:11:37.358Z","text":"可惜青藤 ava 托雷斯不能认定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q138458bb8c6ae86b099a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q469981e4c266fa72febc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":654,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:12:03.058Z","text":"我相信肯定有 但明面上没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q496bdad6ca3c701da61a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q469981e4c266fa72febc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q496bdad6ca3c701da61a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q88fb5ea4b37db6551bde","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":655,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T09:14:05.259Z","text":"感觉刑事案有共谋，各种原因综合起来，最后不了了之最好，这样按gpt说的就是给后面rico埋了个伏笔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88fb5ea4b37db6551bde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q58e04840642e1def1aba","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":656,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:14:24.398Z","text":"会不会是这种情况：比如你有100w在账号上，另外螺丝哥给你转了50w，那么你去用这个账号花钱的时候，花的是你自己的钱，还是螺丝哥的钱。\n只是乱猜。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39965e00820d3346548e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58e04840642e1def1aba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39965e00820d3346548e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe3b504105c254c75ec94","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":657,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T09:18:54.257Z","text":"螺丝哥转给你了，钱就是你的，你花钱给螺丝哥用，只能说明你很仗义。钱给了郭强，郭强买了跑车，只能说明郭强经营不善","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58e04840642e1def1aba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3b504105c254c75ec94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58e04840642e1def1aba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q309befe97088c774a359","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":658,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:30:06.012Z","text":"所以你先把这个搞清楚，再来下结论。\n郭强花钱这事的来龙去脉。大家再来讨论。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39965e00820d3346548e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q309befe97088c774a359","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39965e00820d3346548e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qea38d3b7ee7b60501d3b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":659,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-13T09:31:02.781Z","text":"检方没有跟进郭美郭强怎么花钱，不正常！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q309befe97088c774a359","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea38d3b7ee7b60501d3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q309befe97088c774a359","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q59c1bcd21773619b0cff","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":660,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:31:38.472Z","text":"如果花了，检方不跟进才怪了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea38d3b7ee7b60501d3b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59c1bcd21773619b0cff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea38d3b7ee7b60501d3b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd9c0aaf3e7802cd62362","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":661,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-13T09:32:42.000Z","text":"卢克拿着宇宙财产追杀令，要是有问题，卢克也会去追。郭美的3000万，卢克已经扣押了。也就是郭美根本没有花那钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59c1bcd21773619b0cff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9c0aaf3e7802cd62362","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59c1bcd21773619b0cff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qafefb1d8acb9aa5d3b37","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":662,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-13T09:34:53.718Z","text":"要支持砸锅的，砸得越给力，越应该支持。希望砸锅的，拿证据砸，不要拿嘴炮砸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafefb1d8acb9aa5d3b37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6e33e32736930fe21672","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":663,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:35:24.662Z","text":"是的，拿证据，而不是直接一个结论。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e33e32736930fe21672","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe9bc263005bf2116904a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":664,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-13T09:44:52.417Z","text":"382附件A列出了几个农场负责人，夏启东，张永兵，九指妖，戴剑锋，还有余建明，郭强，郭美","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb75d44adcd3f7d466113","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url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家族基金 这就是为什么我认定老郭不可能输的原因。 因为美国案例法 老郭这个案子如果输了 那什么罗斯柴尔德 摩根 这家族 那家族 都可以用这个案例法 追杀他们的家族基金","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c700b6aacc8165773ba","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebd5a1afb30a9e746c97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q1dd5a8421036d306525d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":667,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:51:54.513Z","text":"那还有什么共济会 光明会 有狗屁的沼泽地","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dd5a8421036d306525d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qafa45a1ddafda72906d1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":668,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:52:08.602Z","text":"共产党不就成地球之神了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa45a1ddafda72906d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qfb681857292c8ad43909","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":669,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:52:13.307Z","text":"你觉得可能吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb681857292c8ad43909","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q031bc195b649a83b4deb","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":670,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:52:54.013Z","text":"美国这群沼泽地也他妈[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q031bc195b649a83b4deb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q06a5d653e18383bc1e93","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":671,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:53:05.394Z","text":"老郭输了 就没有沼泽地 案例法 把他们都干了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06a5d653e18383bc1e93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9a6e6ac175092a699209","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":672,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:53:18.985Z","text":"狗屁家族基金 到时候共产党最牛逼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a6e6ac175092a699209","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q83500d2aa300aebadf1f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":673,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:53:26.544Z","text":"宇宙追杀令 vs 家族基金","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebd5a1afb30a9e746c97","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83500d2aa300aebadf1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebd5a1afb30a9e746c97","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qea32903e83396f681f7b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":674,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:53:30.182Z","text":"这也是我非常不理解的地方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea32903e83396f681f7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q91d9ea0ba22fe1c06381","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":675,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:54:10.822Z","text":"最强的矛戳得动最强的盾吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91d9ea0ba22fe1c06381","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa912a1e1e74618c7ee3d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":676,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:54:31.953Z","text":"老郭的家族基金如果被luc干了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa912a1e1e74618c7ee3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q150bcc7a600db2329a9f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":677,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:54:44.631Z","text":"那其实不止沼泽地完了 共产党也完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q150bcc7a600db2329a9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q767904b96818dbc9333c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":678,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:54:57.864Z","text":"美国绝不允许干动家族基金。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q767904b96818dbc9333c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2fa70f5a5ced100d2702","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":679,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:55:02.672Z","text":"王岐山的家族信托 我们都可以去干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fa70f5a5ced100d2702","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qbfaf84eb8c598e312fe7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":680,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T09:55:08.154Z","text":"就用老郭的案例法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfaf84eb8c598e312fe7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4e90d562e5afa6a1513d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":681,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:55:30.729Z","text":"看谁能拿到宇宙追杀令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e90d562e5afa6a1513d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2658b3a29e33ff9fff38","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":682,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-13T09:56:46.105Z","text":"有发信的截图吗？打码都行。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e4abe3918bb6e1cb6a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2658b3a29e33ff9fff38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e4abe3918bb6e1cb6a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q2995bd6c6abcc3e47850","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":683,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-13T10:07:51.315Z","text":"382检方起诉书里提到了庭审记录里郭的发言显示郭控制了农场，但在388里法官没有对这个说法发表意见。不知道这算不算是所有农场是共谋的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6671ca5781d901cbd7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2995bd6c6abcc3e47850","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6671ca5781d901cbd7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qde85775e2e7aef51b914","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":684,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-13T10:12:39.522Z","text":"可以让chat GPT按正规合适编辑整理一下，你再审核一次就没啥问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e8aa526ba05084b935b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde85775e2e7aef51b914","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e8aa526ba05084b935b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5779b4a6c01245562df4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":685,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-13T10:20:17.115Z","text":"相见就是硬拉七哥背书，没有这个哪有那么多人跟着他们呢？更别提后来的诈骗币一系列操作了。这是他们最大的诈骗证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa94932664b78e0c0b14","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5779b4a6c01245562df4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa94932664b78e0c0b14","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8d3b8ff15c9d8f8bfdbb","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":686,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T10:35:13.753Z","text":"所以要luk 出庭听证啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcecc540262814eea74bd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d3b8ff15c9d8f8bfdbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q30818f3ebc48624d5a2b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":687,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T10:42:03.952Z","text":"反正系统性做局，伪证，假证人是一定的，然后乱七八糟性质的交易资金全混在一起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30818f3ebc48624d5a2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qaf744dc63956b33399cd","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":688,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T10:43:47.716Z","text":"這就是政治案，如果fbi不把整條線背後的線和人查清楚，光從司法層面固化很慢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf744dc63956b33399cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6c96f18e628c56bf1c69","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":689,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T10:56:19.828Z","text":"他啥都看不懂。你们跟他扯这么多😂 还在指望 fbi 给他查 每一个人🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc3ddea01f53238387b5","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c96f18e628c56bf1c69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3cf306b5164b35ac3bc4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":690,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-13T10:57:42.032Z","text":"老郭被抓之前就说过，案子赢在程序不正义！\n\n\n关于卢克，老郭的暗示非常明确，一月18号之前，老郭要是让信心不坚定的所谓战友去登记债权人就是非法，过了一月18，卢克必须接受所有人！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30818f3ebc48624d5a2b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cf306b5164b35ac3bc4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30818f3ebc48624d5a2b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6f8f6e30a319ae4532dc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":691,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T11:10:40.816Z","text":"是的。瑞哥厉害。高人说 沼泽地已经把ccp 抛弃了。现在培养的是印度神油🇮🇳😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06a5d653e18383bc1e93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8f6e30a319ae4532dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06a5d653e18383bc1e93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q241afbe8e208a24d1008","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":692,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T11:20:03.579Z","text":"谢谢。没有 面具先生 啊 他也是农场主啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9bc263005bf2116904a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q241afbe8e208a24d1008","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9bc263005bf2116904a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb7aff785e89ca1ef3d2d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":693,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T11:52:17.345Z","text":"川普還給自家族搞錢呢，有怎麼的？關於女兒兒子家庭開銷確實是出現在檢方文件裡，而且說是法治基金出的錢，具體怎麼作為旁觀者怎麼知道？說是有銀行紀錄，能不能作假麽？流水能對上麽？檢方豆很模糊。我當然也希望水落石出能解釋一切，退一萬部講，就真挪用了點又如何？這重要麼，美國司法彈性很大的，最多管理不善麽，和系統性詐騙根本不挨著。我相信最後一定水落石出的，檢方是不是混淆視聽，一定有個說法。我是打個預防針，認知不要太局限。我之前也表示過，這在美國是普遍現象，根本不叫事。這個世界哪有非黑即白的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7aff785e89ca1ef3d2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q36652f2cbcd597ecf2bd","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":694,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T11:58:15.394Z","text":"我們在小群也有些時候了吧，怎麼搞的陌生人一樣，當時我就表達過同樣觀點，現在還是。從人性角度思考，在中共和美國系統性為追堵截情況下，給家人兜底有問題麽？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c96f18e628c56bf1c69","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36652f2cbcd597ecf2bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c96f18e628c56bf1c69","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa8cbf553658a47aa8ff0","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":695,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T11:59:56.141Z","text":"說我砸鍋也是服了，我當時可是和群裡真砸鍋的吵了幾天，易水寒你肯定知道吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8cbf553658a47aa8ff0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q27beb2471d3455fed587","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":696,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T12:01:56.269Z","text":"現在說這些也意義不大，等luk 出庭吧，我就等這個呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27beb2471d3455fed587","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q1fa48893af450299ccbb","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":697,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T12:38:58.374Z","text":"我從沒砸鍋，但是我保留對人性的認知。而且我不認為這些事能阻止我繼續支持老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fa48893af450299ccbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q7aba877d13fcd7b1df84","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":698,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T12:41:21.678Z","text":"瞎几把扯。我虽然4年 没用whats 但是 我都有一直保持登陆 为了保留 面具诈骗我的证据。没任何人给老子发过信息。不说了。屏蔽了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q709d7aeaac173ab17e44","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aba877d13fcd7b1df84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q39aa84eff99f221caa12","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":699,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T12:48:09.219Z","text":"螺丝哥 做了 不少功课啊 👍 难怪可以第一个人发现 案情本质","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45fea4823e98a01873b0","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39aa84eff99f221caa12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q30e76016012015836d58","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":700,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T13:02:37.039Z","text":"是的。直接rico 根本不会一个个查。 这就是rico的本质。不花任何时间 去一个个查","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88fb5ea4b37db6551bde","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30e76016012015836d58","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88fb5ea4b37db6551bde","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q7697b04239c339e86aa5","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":701,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:14:47.549Z","text":"這個邏輯成立","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58e04840642e1def1aba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7697b04239c339e86aa5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58e04840642e1def1aba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4be7fe7e792ba1edb958","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":702,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:19:47.144Z","text":"你了解的比較全面，你這分析邏輯沒問題","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed3d67c6443ef986b390","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4be7fe7e792ba1edb958","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":703,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:21:37.965Z","text":"问个问题：螺丝的撤案策略是仅在量刑最终出来前促使法官撤案用的？还是假如撤案失败、彻底定罪后再上诉给上诉法庭也准备继续延用？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":704,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:34:56.501Z","text":"目前這局面不可能判","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":705,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:49:48.243Z","text":"也就是说，仅是为前者；不论出现什么结果，总之不是为后者准备的？ 不过这应该是你个人解读吧，毕竟看到你对郭的某些局部认知，跟那几位更加“聪明卓绝”的战友有较大向左之处，对你颇有微词","edited":false,"reply_to":"q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":706,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:58:51.363Z","text":"我认为即便有点瑕疵，也够不成系统性诈骗，我反复通过机器人论证的，最多是民事罚款。但是我本人更希望是检方刻意混淆和掩盖部分事实，就像螺丝哥说的，家庭开支家人消费和咱们没关系，但是我的意思退一万步讲，最多也就是管理不善的民事诉讼，绝对不能是诈骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb2c4de521203a3f9201f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":707,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:59:43.192Z","text":"谢谢分享，不过这个不是咱俩探讨的范畴。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c4de521203a3f9201f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6456fecca641285c11b4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":708,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:00:05.394Z","text":"我认为刑事撤案成功概率超过70%","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6456fecca641285c11b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q7f9fb3e12fdb4005bea8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":709,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:00:26.503Z","text":"螺丝哥的策略是判决前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f9fb3e12fdb4005bea8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6bc0419237f84fd23291","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":710,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T14:01:45.945Z","text":"70？这么保守","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bc0419237f84fd23291","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5926f66e883cf6acce9c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":711,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:02:21.009Z","text":"这是以前机器人给的概率","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5926f66e883cf6acce9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qb4fcb8d8412b6a2cc97c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":712,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T14:02:38.041Z","text":"那之后的新策略是，等如果失败，届时再想咯。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4fcb8d8412b6a2cc97c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6ee1ce6f20b5e2ac8d50","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":713,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:02:52.316Z","text":"不过升级后记录都清空了，懒得再和机器人白扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ee1ce6f20b5e2ac8d50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4879a693b493b5e974bf","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":714,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:04:05.779Z","text":"螺丝哥打击点是对的，主要还是看辩护律师怎么操作，机器人比较保守很正常","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4fcb8d8412b6a2cc97c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4879a693b493b5e974bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4fcb8d8412b6a2cc97c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q604cc88fd3369cf49861","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":715,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:04:58.549Z","text":"其实不用着急，714法官已經把皮球給檢方了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q604cc88fd3369cf49861","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4cb62b9145e84ec88f77","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":716,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:05:39.905Z","text":"如果luk出庭聽證，那贏面會更大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cb62b9145e84ec88f77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q81c9753294b087634578","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":717,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:06:26.097Z","text":"最差的結果無論如何今年都不可能判決","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81c9753294b087634578","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3cad42d79ed9d56cfebf","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":718,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-13T14:08:44.194Z","text":"郭的律师如果给力，这个案子不会到现在这种状况。其实还是律师的问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cad42d79ed9d56cfebf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9573ac4599e835b1ba93","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":719,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-13T14:09:01.644Z","text":"这个案子本来漏洞就很多。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9573ac4599e835b1ba93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q21c8a2e6dcf9e6bd0a0a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":720,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:13:48.522Z","text":"畢竟不是剛換了麽","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cad42d79ed9d56cfebf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21c8a2e6dcf9e6bd0a0a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cad42d79ed9d56cfebf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9198fd89b0c7305ef7af","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":721,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-13T14:14:09.330Z","text":"对啊，看看新律师怎么样吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21c8a2e6dcf9e6bd0a0a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9198fd89b0c7305ef7af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21c8a2e6dcf9e6bd0a0a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qcf30fdb3e215a4624cde","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":722,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:14:13.005Z","text":"檢方也換了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf30fdb3e215a4624cde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5cffab7ab62ff0ec855c","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":723,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:14:26.785Z","text":"目前看給力的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cffab7ab62ff0ec855c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa945577b1ee75cfe195b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":724,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:14:49.982Z","text":"我聽有信心的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa945577b1ee75cfe195b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa46683a0e2a4d6774ea0","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":725,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-13T14:18:59.856Z","text":"检方现在只能按照既定的路走下去","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf30fdb3e215a4624cde","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46683a0e2a4d6774ea0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf30fdb3e215a4624cde","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q11b321851e324217dcbc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":726,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:22:22.867Z","text":"新檢方這個信息其實也很模糊，我們能明確的辯護律師換了，檢察官換了，團隊呢？有沒有人有明確信息","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11b321851e324217dcbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q508ea996ad29d8bca416","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":727,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-13T14:23:45.206Z","text":"检方到现在无论换了谁，都得按既定走下去，因为庭审已经结束了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11b321851e324217dcbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q508ea996ad29d8bca416","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11b321851e324217dcbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://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HK$1,180 港币——同日查获；\n3. ¥600 人民币——同日查获；\n4. US$138,440 美元——同日查获。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c2b0852e006c8c4bbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q750db77fa729a4b11188","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":743,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T22:04:30.624Z","text":"这个里面 法官和检察官说被 邮件轰炸，是谁发的？ 债权人  受害人？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51c54dc4f23ba1b32cf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q750db77fa729a4b11188","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51c54dc4f23ba1b32cf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q13b9e8d8438dd526f836","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":744,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T22:04:41.441Z","text":"可能是唐平","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13b9e8d8438dd526f836","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qf9c4b49c90900443c823","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":745,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-13T22:15:50.328Z","text":"政府好无聊呀。人家王雁平在自己住处的现金就这样被没收了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3c2b0852e006c8c4bbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9c4b49c90900443c823","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c2b0852e006c8c4bbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd73594e9b8584da8b6de","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":746,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-13T22:22:08.892Z","text":"你在 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就是自导自演","edited":false,"reply_to":"q37741130bee81b6834fe","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10a41112490a376b3b70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qa9dd2b59cae818d7b8f9","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":756,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T22:52:25.942Z","text":"https://x.com/Percy43508644/status/1903011366539026631","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9dd2b59cae818d7b8f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc6aca7a64a541bf778d4","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":757,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T22:52:56.796Z","text":"久指妖说  长岛香草山的钱 其实早就打去了  阿布扎比，所以他跟久指妖的案子 拿到的钱 其实是我们没拿到钱的人的。这货 是去提钱的吧，么比 案子要办啊，[屏蔽词]啥都查不到","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6aca7a64a541bf778d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9e8432e9d3ede5719fab","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":758,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-13T22:55:47.831Z","text":"江 下头跟 AVA 表 两个 对立 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现在是 不能合并的话 就不能 继续程序？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0547f9d37db16a67c437","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qdd22b80665e0fc6b60e3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":763,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T00:13:28.396Z","text":"检方一定会提出没收，要看辩方怎么回应，才能决定最后没收程序会不会开启","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0547f9d37db16a67c437","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd22b80665e0fc6b60e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0547f9d37db16a67c437","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qf15a031597ad6e6677a7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":764,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T00:17:01.298Z","text":"现在是检方必须证明财产和郭有关，辩方可以就这点对检方提出反驳，打几个回合之后，决定没收程序会不会开启","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91fa62349c3d7da9c9a5","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf15a031597ad6e6677a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q28857d00d95ef688b14b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":765,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T00:17:37.118Z","text":"看看明天检方怎么说，就知道螺丝哥的理论是不是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28857d00d95ef688b14b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q93eef4bd1d6a20e1510f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":766,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T00:17:49.958Z","text":"螺丝哥不就是 打散 不让合并吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93eef4bd1d6a20e1510f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qafa0a9595d7eb749bfe3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":767,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T00:18:38.914Z","text":"螺丝哥说债权人登记绑定郭和G系列资产，这个理论是不是对的，看看明天检方怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa0a9595d7eb749bfe3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3139b01a14564b104d3a","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T00:20:07.971Z","text":"如果明天检方说破产案庭的裁定能证明郭是G系列的拥有人控制人，那螺丝哥就是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3139b01a14564b104d3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc03cb950cbf723f1791b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":769,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T00:52:53.681Z","text":"明天就出结果？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc03cb950cbf723f1791b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q8dc61f9ce3c5d92ce1a6","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":770,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-14T00:56:05.605Z","text":"检方估计会把定罪的流水账报一报","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dc61f9ce3c5d92ce1a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q079a7d7149cadaad6054","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":771,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-14T00:56:10.232Z","text":"什么电汇银行欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q079a7d7149cadaad6054","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q122730ea590a14f1ee4f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":772,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-14T00:56:17.792Z","text":"共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q122730ea590a14f1ee4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe2c41c3d2aa4382c2ac1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":773,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-14T01:03:18.627Z","text":"然后最后轻描淡写一句 破产案绑定刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2c41c3d2aa4382c2ac1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q06ed2d193dcd22feb9c9","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":774,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-14T01:03:27.146Z","text":"所以是老郭控制","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06ed2d193dcd22feb9c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q6048f560c552e12d0779","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":775,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-14T01:03:42.237Z","text":"然后律师就可以把我的债权人作假牌拿出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6048f560c552e12d0779","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q55e688dea8df8a40dabe","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":776,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-14T01:06:56.807Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1944563701249622524?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55e688dea8df8a40dabe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc404247f2ff4983ec7f3","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":777,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T02:28:14.807Z","text":"这里法院组织的 这一帮人 登记 claim 或者 petition的  合法吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3c2b0852e006c8c4bbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc404247f2ff4983ec7f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c2b0852e006c8c4bbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qc97b5f278ad5e09fe310","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":778,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T02:45:47.249Z","text":"https://x.com/CharlesZ_1998/status/1887589388793610291","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc97b5f278ad5e09fe310","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q5dd0fe9fab41baa5ec1e","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":779,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T02:45:59.384Z","text":"这里登记的这批人 是什么性质","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dd0fe9fab41baa5ec1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9d381d12054054826c88","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":780,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-14T03:06:58.191Z","text":"这个咖啡文乐就是去法庭当检方证人的那个鸟。王雁平的案子不知道有没有机会翻案。政府是个流氓、没收这10笔钱财，有4项金额过好千万，分别是90, 86, 48 and 14 千万，共2个多亿。王雁平认罪也是莫名其妙，不知道她到底犯了什么罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d381d12054054826c88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qe8c88adee863e5510685","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":781,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:26:26.983Z","text":"法院组织是合法的，但是联盟农场组织就不一定合法了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc404247f2ff4983ec7f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8c88adee863e5510685","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc404247f2ff4983ec7f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q26dd2bf2b98fa1ba72e8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":782,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:26:58.595Z","text":"我也没搞清楚王认罪为什么就可以没收所有资产","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d381d12054054826c88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26dd2bf2b98fa1ba72e8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d381d12054054826c88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q7d5eb6e5351f48310589","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":783,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:29:05.611Z","text":"估计接受了 条件交换","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d381d12054054826c88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d5eb6e5351f48310589","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d381d12054054826c88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qdab36f310330f1e7ab41","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":784,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:29:29.454Z","text":"有没有可能 这波人 重叠","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8c88adee863e5510685","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdab36f310330f1e7ab41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8c88adee863e5510685","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q90c90bf11ec73126abfa","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":785,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:29:49.499Z","text":"和什么重叠","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdab36f310330f1e7ab41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90c90bf11ec73126abfa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdab36f310330f1e7ab41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q4d2dc7a3e42ff704e56f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":786,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:30:00.272Z","text":"和债权人登记","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90c90bf11ec73126abfa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d2dc7a3e42ff704e56f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90c90bf11ec73126abfa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q471d1d833fe4406ef08d","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":787,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:30:13.981Z","text":"检方有没有证明王和资产的关系？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7d5eb6e5351f48310589","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q471d1d833fe4406ef08d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d5eb6e5351f48310589","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q442c45763bc066b200ad","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":788,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:30:48.431Z","text":"有可能重叠，这是检方需要核查的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d2dc7a3e42ff704e56f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q442c45763bc066b200ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d2dc7a3e42ff704e56f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q0881afea5ba1cb670cc8","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":789,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:31:59.853Z","text":"王认罪就是她转钱做空港币吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d381d12054054826c88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0881afea5ba1cb670cc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d381d12054054826c88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qcf74cbd3437c4cbbb43b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":790,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:32:20.273Z","text":"这个 Luc 怎么也在 找 G service  要钱啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf74cbd3437c4cbbb43b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q96081ffb1e0a85674431","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":791,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:32:42.037Z","text":"Luc到处要钱，只要和郭沾边的都可以要","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96081ffb1e0a85674431","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd940210e02e28fc971dd","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":792,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:33:03.176Z","text":"他把钱要走 我们还分个屁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd940210e02e28fc971dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd18cb7ddb7ea9c355c8e","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":793,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:33:33.534Z","text":"所以债权人这个关系到所有G系列投资人的利益","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd18cb7ddb7ea9c355c8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q378c9c0fda0a150aaa41","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":794,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-14T03:33:42.002Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd18cb7ddb7ea9c355c8e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q378c9c0fda0a150aaa41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd18cb7ddb7ea9c355c8e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"qd57e2afd3c9c37b87ba2","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":795,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:34:06.425Z","text":"不清楚，但是如果内部协议交换条件，不需要证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q471d1d833fe4406ef08d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd57e2afd3c9c37b87ba2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q471d1d833fe4406ef08d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q278558550a13a570a0a7","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":796,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-14T03:35:05.971Z","text":"我现在还没有搞清王是不是有资格同意没收资产，不过现在无所谓了，现在是郭同不同意","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd57e2afd3c9c37b87ba2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q278558550a13a570a0a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd57e2afd3c9c37b87ba2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q068d4f231bc6f6bea28b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":797,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:35:32.967Z","text":"[屏蔽词] 现在G service 啦我们都去 分290W  万一[屏蔽词] 只分到1块钱，以后就不能 告他，但是 如果Luc 找到了 G service 其他财产，就全部归 Luc 了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q96081ffb1e0a85674431","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q068d4f231bc6f6bea28b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96081ffb1e0a85674431","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q59a8e9927d8cd63ee29b","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":798,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:36:00.339Z","text":"真是[屏蔽词] 斗智斗勇啊  累死我了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59a8e9927d8cd63ee29b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q3686bedacdaed77622bc","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":799,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T03:36:40.996Z","text":"卧槽 luc 这个狗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd18cb7ddb7ea9c355c8e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3686bedacdaed77622bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd18cb7ddb7ea9c355c8e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"},{"id":"q9fddae4ec4e8f3ee5ad5","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":800,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-14T04:04:33.100Z","text":"https://x.com/nfsckoccp/status/1944269647135879226?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fddae4ec4e8f3ee5ad5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000013","next_batch_id":"batch-000015"}