{"id":"batch-000016","number":16,"revision":2,"date_start":"2025-07-17T13:22:46.381Z","date_end":"2025-07-19T10:25:53.503Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 016 (Jul 17, 2025 – Jul 19, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants examined asset forfeiture proceedings and post-trial strategies, analyzing distinctions between innocent third-party petitions under Rule 853(n) and the Crime Victims' Rights Act (CVRA). Community members debated drafting pro se motions, applying the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine against creditor filings, and navigating judicial restrictions on referencing the CCP. 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 还有这么多人买？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90b2683ff6f592f2f2c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e8732a9d74a9f2c70e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90b2683ff6f592f2f2c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q16d42a9510215c8295e4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":207,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:18:26.743Z","text":"老郭不会给 后面的这些兜底","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b11c786f31ac27cd2df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d42a9510215c8295e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b11c786f31ac27cd2df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8fc986c71a204c7557f1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":208,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-17T23:19:19.969Z","text":"郭要是输了，螺丝哥就要去挖他祖坟了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fc986c71a204c7557f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0b0855ffd592974f85db","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":209,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:19:25.689Z","text":"假郭美跟律师无关，她是灭爆的保护伞，是傻战友的迷幻剂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2b0d0acfbaef03d3fff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b0855ffd592974f85db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2b0d0acfbaef03d3fff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8b17e41b51735d6366f4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":210,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-17T23:19:37.153Z","text":"反正都在山东，挖坟很容易","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b17e41b51735d6366f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe30549302530a3aed33a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":211,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:20:21.542Z","text":"gunner的 消息 你也信，这些脑残信息，就是来分散我们的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ae3247b678ef2b559b3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe30549302530a3aed33a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7a8b8cf38b38ae141f4b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":212,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-17T23:20:57.723Z","text":"我的意思是，淘喵有谈过郭换律师这件事情吗？从郭换律师这件事，很多战友应该已经醒了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b0855ffd592974f85db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a8b8cf38b38ae141f4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b0855ffd592974f85db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q746df7c6218d8d74d93c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":213,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-17T23:21:33.754Z","text":"至少对联盟的消息，应该不再信任了。也不应该觉得郭能掌控一切了吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q746df7c6218d8d74d93c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb953055c100da5d600ee","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":214,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:21:49.873Z","text":"可能还有社会上的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e8732a9d74a9f2c70e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb953055c100da5d600ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e8732a9d74a9f2c70e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q00755526bc996d5750dd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":215,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:22:52.547Z","text":"你分析的对 所以不是灭爆小组[屏蔽词]，是这个消息是假的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8ae3247b678ef2b559b3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00755526bc996d5750dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qadd3a87243b79bc9cf69","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":216,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:23:23.661Z","text":"gunner这个智障当真了  拿来跟你说  以为你也会当真","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadd3a87243b79bc9cf69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q915e89e9e277b7d42ee4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":217,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:24:03.464Z","text":"联盟最怕的就是我这种疯子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q915e89e9e277b7d42ee4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf490c060b2941ccd4dbf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":218,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:24:04.953Z","text":"想炫耀自己的情报能力，结果 逻辑上翻车","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf490c060b2941ccd4dbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe3e8e2a31dc2d8ecfa44","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":219,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:24:49.301Z","text":"识别智障  我们只需要一秒😂   敢来这里忽悠 都是找骂的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3e8e2a31dc2d8ecfa44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb1aca7fee82f86e30f1c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":220,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:26:28.768Z","text":"没印象，之前的律师假郭美也是背过书的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a8b8cf38b38ae141f4b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1aca7fee82f86e30f1c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a8b8cf38b38ae141f4b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc0d7567c57a842db2986","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":221,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-17T23:26:29.245Z","text":"事到如今，还劝战友躺平，放心的，都有重大嫌疑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa115d8520e3ab3b9a253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0d7567c57a842db2986","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa115d8520e3ab3b9a253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q88f1285a91bbb9e5bd10","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":222,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:27:38.869Z","text":"哈哈 他说的真假 都无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3e8e2a31dc2d8ecfa44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88f1285a91bbb9e5bd10","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3e8e2a31dc2d8ecfa44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7801430feb13c93278e1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":223,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:30:58.087Z","text":"嗯，淘喵，坐禅，还有谁来着","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0d7567c57a842db2986","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7801430feb13c93278e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0d7567c57a842db2986","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa7b9e7ac30380574101f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":224,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:31:03.706Z","text":"luc 会自己告诉 所有人 谁是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfcf479db5a7e77da458","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7b9e7ac30380574101f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfcf479db5a7e77da458","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qdd33b29643124e815927","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":225,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:31:51.594Z","text":"小地鼠说从窗户飞出来？我真特么服了这孙子了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa115d8520e3ab3b9a253","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd33b29643124e815927","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa115d8520e3ab3b9a253","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4868fd27d936378b17c0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":226,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:33:00.151Z","text":"现在是检方需要他出来，我们也需要他出来，他想不出来都难","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7b9e7ac30380574101f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4868fd27d936378b17c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7b9e7ac30380574101f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q26a87804e9ccbf80dd44","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":227,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:33:00.510Z","text":"我因为说了老班长乱伦女儿被dc开除后 加入了磐石。 一个人就说 哪个农场收了我这种人 都是给自己找麻烦🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q927d8577264c2717d851","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26a87804e9ccbf80dd44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q240bbf7844925f5c458c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":228,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:33:22.413Z","text":"我印象深刻，当时就是觉得你是疯子，好像咱俩当时还对骂过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26a87804e9ccbf80dd44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q240bbf7844925f5c458c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26a87804e9ccbf80dd44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q73befc354b5a63c6944a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":229,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:33:32.774Z","text":"没说错 我就是疯子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q240bbf7844925f5c458c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73befc354b5a63c6944a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q240bbf7844925f5c458c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd751c5585ae3157c6dc2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":230,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:33:41.004Z","text":"全联盟谁敢说？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd751c5585ae3157c6dc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb7874cbd9484f1cd94c1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":231,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:33:54.709Z","text":"当时说是 老班长在新西兰农场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7874cbd9484f1cd94c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf71300ccb37e46fa5c9c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":232,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:33:58.800Z","text":"砸郭一小时","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf71300ccb37e46fa5c9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q237939139c120335f142","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":233,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:34:05.230Z","text":"底下鸦雀无声","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q237939139c120335f142","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q05f775305b6361a9adde","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":234,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:34:24.708Z","text":"我瞬间就觉得要搞个大新闻才行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05f775305b6361a9adde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6e8615aabe50b50ed8db","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":235,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:34:26.480Z","text":"对，他自爆了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e8615aabe50b50ed8db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf0a35f01bfd485e1c5b1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":236,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:34:48.685Z","text":"不是没人敢说吗？ 我来说一个你们来评评 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0a35f01bfd485e1c5b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd0421538fece34cca0dc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":237,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:35:07.756Z","text":"我就是失控版的螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0421538fece34cca0dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcd7a570897cc41d05d10","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":238,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:35:13.703Z","text":"啥都敢说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd7a570897cc41d05d10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q139b4d7a544a0f9b8a55","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":239,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:35:20.144Z","text":"啥都敢干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q139b4d7a544a0f9b8a55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc03d0a6b6f58517fb152","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":240,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:35:52.798Z","text":"你这种就是自由基，打破矩阵","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc03d0a6b6f58517fb152","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe43b982f9d6365124381","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":241,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:36:39.107Z","text":"是走线过来的 那个 阿哲吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c9c84393954c1349dd0","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe43b982f9d6365124381","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd307cb31ecaaa0769e5d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":242,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:36:49.496Z","text":"大多数人都会一条路跑到黑，直到撞南墙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd307cb31ecaaa0769e5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfa7d91a939816b7e5969","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":243,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-17T23:36:55.301Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe43b982f9d6365124381","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa7d91a939816b7e5969","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe43b982f9d6365124381","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcc6f8f46890625f83eaf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":244,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:38:58.170Z","text":"他就是没学历，其他方面当个牛逼律师没有问题，基本素质都足够了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdad091364cf3bb6d33e6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc6f8f46890625f83eaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcdcec1d1dbc9f99407ba","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":245,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:39:34.041Z","text":"我们是根据现有东西，用逻辑 用常识 去分析得到一切的答案，他搞个中南海的听床师的 情报 拿这里来讲  跟民运每天讲的 有什么区别？  完全没有任何价值","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbba373fe68e7bead407","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdcec1d1dbc9f99407ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q76f31daaee0fa54c3828","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":246,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:40:08.815Z","text":"现在这些V们，在咱们眼里就是个屁，不论哪个平台","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76f31daaee0fa54c3828","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe450cd3076cf95503b0c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":247,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-17T23:41:35.175Z","text":"现在我们已经找到了全部答案，农场主网红 干了啥  这种 明星八卦一样的 消息，一点价值都没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76f31daaee0fa54c3828","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe450cd3076cf95503b0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76f31daaee0fa54c3828","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6de06fa7c1acecb83ec3","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":248,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-17T23:42:26.186Z","text":"智商、情商都比不过阅历，只有经过了必能真正明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdad091364cf3bb6d33e6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6de06fa7c1acecb83ec3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q2f090e1e37590785949a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":249,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T00:02:40.939Z","text":"将来拉个队伍做赏金猎人，搞这帮灭爆分子去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26dadbded9bac4596faf","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f090e1e37590785949a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5bea58bbda18ba235343","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":250,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T01:24:01.058Z","text":"不爱石头爱七哥，你这个爱郭贼，大[屏蔽词]。敢不敢评价一下你七哥亲自给你暗示的案件程序不正义啊？或者你的智商就是低能儿智障，你根本看不懂啊？请你公开评价你七哥的暗示，你不是天天解读你七哥啊？来解读你七哥暗示的程序不正义！\n\n\n这个家伙，总算是回应我了。还有那个安小东，也一定要碰瓷成功","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bea58bbda18ba235343","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qbc60e4c04f5bf21f2e48","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":251,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T02:05:18.058Z","text":"不爱石头爱七哥，我看他是恨死七哥爱石头才是。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc60e4c04f5bf21f2e48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qbda58fd6ecd54c771eb2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":252,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T02:07:21.690Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1946028932492644832?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbda58fd6ecd54c771eb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q20a7e0d73b8fea29f45c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":253,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T02:11:09.249Z","text":"https://x.com/nfsckoccp/status/1946025232881570271","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20a7e0d73b8fea29f45c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q370a71b6c91577345d51","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":254,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T02:11:31.724Z","text":"文永 这是不是多年前的 那个 老女人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q370a71b6c91577345d51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q88ba68813ce526cfe2ca","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":255,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T02:12:12.653Z","text":"是不是看到我们破案了 又回来找 老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88ba68813ce526cfe2ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0a995fd8747142a54165","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":256,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T02:21:48.925Z","text":"https://x.com/nfsckoccp/status/1945721134303039734","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a995fd8747142a54165","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q14dceb77e7cafb6eb05a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":257,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T02:22:51.833Z","text":"又抓到一个 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但必须是搞ai的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q529605a8293a02dd91e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7143228f2c170dedfba4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q529605a8293a02dd91e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qca22e1f04e1e2ac5f607","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":260,"speaker":"202***","date":"2025-07-18T02:53:42.938Z","text":"七哥还说了 生物工程 很好的专业","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca22e1f04e1e2ac5f607","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfc780d3ae619f1b8db75","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":261,"speaker":"202***","date":"2025-07-18T02:55:04.534Z","text":"我家学的就是这个现在改行做算法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc780d3ae619f1b8db75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1e1051ac6e06fdc7d211","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":262,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-18T03:07:25.145Z","text":"不可说，她的职业是卖窗帘","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5feddda1afdacd73fea7","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e1051ac6e06fdc7d211","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q613ed21f76f7bc5d15e6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":263,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T03:13:36.858Z","text":"青藤着急了， 赶紧叫昆仑饭店 找钥匙 出来站台","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q613ed21f76f7bc5d15e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6cac1b52af11fb300902","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":264,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T03:13:58.915Z","text":"昆仑饭店流水视频来一个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q613ed21f76f7bc5d15e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cac1b52af11fb300902","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q613ed21f76f7bc5d15e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf23f75e5772fefd7221b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":265,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T03:34:29.731Z","text":"https://x.com/ant_sunshine/status/1946026150645653779?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf23f75e5772fefd7221b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd61dc2a0dad3e1758a6f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":266,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T03:34:51.183Z","text":"这种八杆子打不着的 逻辑。没看懂 瑞哥。他啥意思😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd61dc2a0dad3e1758a6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q256df6a21fad568747a6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":267,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T03:43:44.456Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1946052393801855231?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q256df6a21fad568747a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa4d3bbfdfec7bf111e69","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":268,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-18T03:56:51.039Z","text":"公主接班这种事，对中共体制运作了解的话，是不可能扯出来的，首先，包子没有绝对优势他不是创业的，其次，黑社会规矩也是有的。他们能扯出这个当别人都没常识😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q256df6a21fad568747a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4d3bbfdfec7bf111e69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q256df6a21fad568747a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q209fd596d12fd2146c75","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":269,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-18T03:58:00.716Z","text":"其他势力不翻天才怪，公主接班都没有任何道统上可以支持的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q209fd596d12fd2146c75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd6100c972b89d2192b50","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":270,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T03:59:13.417Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 他们造谣习公主的事 可能真的说明老郭在九月份要指控luc了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6100c972b89d2192b50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb782b55d7cfc16d7f2ae","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":271,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-18T03:59:30.191Z","text":"这个逻辑怎么说？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6100c972b89d2192b50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb782b55d7cfc16d7f2ae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6100c972b89d2192b50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1e9a83857386b193efcd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":272,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:00:27.032Z","text":"他们没事 造这个谣干什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb782b55d7cfc16d7f2ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e9a83857386b193efcd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb782b55d7cfc16d7f2ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qaf481c083bcc84af96a6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":273,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:00:49.052Z","text":"一定有大事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf481c083bcc84af96a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf48c2007974c4cd63888","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":274,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:08:43.398Z","text":"要用习公主的幌子 为基础 来搞一些自己的大事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf48c2007974c4cd63888","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe192465411ae1d4465dd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":275,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:18:11.913Z","text":"maga 那边要驱逐哈佛留学生。当时都说公主在哈佛。很多maga 大v 出来说公主","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe192465411ae1d4465dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q41ebbf2a2dc24d4fb84f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":276,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:19:24.969Z","text":"公主这么多年被保护的如此神秘，都想她现身，包子 这么听话主动公布？ ？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41ebbf2a2dc24d4fb84f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q57182af1d4e0701c12db","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":277,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:22:12.273Z","text":"要像我这样 👆 拿点实在东西说，什么黑道，创业的瞎几把扯。装神秘。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57182af1d4e0701c12db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5f4095bf22b81c82965a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":278,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T04:24:34.201Z","text":"我从来不关心这些够不着也无法验证的事情。当然我每天都赞美习主席，我每天盼着习主席带领我走向共同富裕。我认为这是最伟大的追求，习主席比毛贼东这个老[屏蔽词]强万倍。","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd6100c972b89d2192b50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f4095bf22b81c82965a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6100c972b89d2192b50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q744f121b4761f5189118","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":279,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:25:06.766Z","text":"哈哈哈哈😂 对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f4095bf22b81c82965a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q744f121b4761f5189118","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f4095bf22b81c82965a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qba7a71548c799a7afbef","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":280,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:28:31.106Z","text":"你们有没有资料被联盟出卖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba7a71548c799a7afbef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9f633f414ae8c6f6c3f2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":281,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:28:33.803Z","text":"然后被威胁的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f633f414ae8c6f6c3f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfb82cea4e8f94e2845e8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":282,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:28:58.580Z","text":"我从来没有把任何资料给联盟😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb82cea4e8f94e2845e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6109852500c1a2bf3b80","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":283,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:29:28.042Z","text":"面具踢我以后 农场我都没有😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6109852500c1a2bf3b80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe5742d260ef8695118be","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":284,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:29:54.845Z","text":"我准备起诉青藤","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5742d260ef8695118be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q065a3ebe7129f3988939","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":285,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:30:26.536Z","text":"我认为 长岛比青藤有钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q065a3ebe7129f3988939","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q117cd49a59bab0da8c50","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":286,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-18T04:31:08.894Z","text":"确实，但是感觉有些意义不明，除了显得自己更蠢在说谎外😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e9a83857386b193efcd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q117cd49a59bab0da8c50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e9a83857386b193efcd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q18a0b6dbc5bf29764319","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":287,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:31:19.040Z","text":"但我这个事情赖不到长岛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q065a3ebe7129f3988939","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18a0b6dbc5bf29764319","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q065a3ebe7129f3988939","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7a67ed7968a350cdf8f9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":288,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:31:35.259Z","text":"虽然是长岛经手的 但他已经不是秘书长了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a67ed7968a350cdf8f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q092581c6cf2a5ea91846","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":289,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:31:39.653Z","text":"你的泄露源头在哪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q092581c6cf2a5ea91846","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q25aa5c96db69303743fd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":290,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:31:46.422Z","text":"dc农场","edited":false,"reply_to":"q092581c6cf2a5ea91846","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25aa5c96db69303743fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q092581c6cf2a5ea91846","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q90b849255b50ef4e6355","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":291,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:31:49.214Z","text":"交给了联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90b849255b50ef4e6355","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd488d13ce12934d3ef4c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":292,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:31:52.454Z","text":"所以不知道是谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd488d13ce12934d3ef4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5c2bfde1521e2568f059","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":293,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:32:06.774Z","text":"卧槽 你从农场登记 的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c2bfde1521e2568f059","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q57dcc8249430eca8b66c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":294,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:33:20.867Z","text":"你得找阿炳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57dcc8249430eca8b66c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc549bba78a6029126f6d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":295,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:33:27.819Z","text":"她是农场主","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc549bba78a6029126f6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf5e18683aafb8230c85d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":296,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:34:18.737Z","text":"面具把我钱骗到了 九只妖。我他妈 起诉都 是 无头案。拿不出九只妖骗我的过程","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5e18683aafb8230c85d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q91daa46433b8c0fbaa31","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":297,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T04:48:07.277Z","text":"也许目的就是为了显得蠢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q117cd49a59bab0da8c50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91daa46433b8c0fbaa31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q117cd49a59bab0da8c50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf3a3532a2e0d60e4c5d0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":298,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:51:06.946Z","text":"这种情况下 你只能司法讹诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf5e18683aafb8230c85d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3a3532a2e0d60e4c5d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5e18683aafb8230c85d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qafce8fae4c6421d4dff2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":299,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T04:51:11.529Z","text":"再加赌他门","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafce8fae4c6421d4dff2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5a52b78f08ea803bc08c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":300,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T07:36:30.237Z","text":"他是不是文盲？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5bea58bbda18ba235343","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a52b78f08ea803bc08c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bea58bbda18ba235343","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1ccf59030b20cd646939","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":301,"speaker":"202***","date":"2025-07-18T08:37:42.835Z","text":"七哥早就说过 泰达币和币安","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ccf59030b20cd646939","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qda3bb8488d84be37a5ca","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":302,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-18T11:46:02.824Z","text":"听说是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a52b78f08ea803bc08c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda3bb8488d84be37a5ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a52b78f08ea803bc08c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q05dffe566eee5fb0d76d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":303,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T11:54:48.211Z","text":"简单推特一下接下来法庭上可能会发生什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05dffe566eee5fb0d76d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4cb39da3a8611d37edf6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":304,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:08:26.779Z","text":"他不承认财产是他的，怎么能同意没收令呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91dd7dea5e653412534c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cb39da3a8611d37edf6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qeb7caa048bf0ccba5bbb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":305,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:11:35.397Z","text":"你不承认，但是检方能够证明。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4cb39da3a8611d37edf6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb7caa048bf0ccba5bbb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cb39da3a8611d37edf6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0f0545b755ee8ac94651","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":306,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:13:00.118Z","text":"哦，那就是你觉得他不会反驳","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb7caa048bf0ccba5bbb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f0545b755ee8ac94651","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb7caa048bf0ccba5bbb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0077197e1eefb840b71c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":307,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:13:29.702Z","text":"如果你说的是对的，那很快就要下没收令了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0077197e1eefb840b71c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0a590d7971ab4d71e6d4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":308,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:13:52.357Z","text":"反驳和没收程序同时进行，应该没有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a590d7971ab4d71e6d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1b9e8656fc48ca4c2c20","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":309,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:18:02.120Z","text":"https://x.com/i/grok/share/Ft5FLtvaj1xMcC6rSTcr5CArR","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b9e8656fc48ca4c2c20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q799fa06160e8acfcc904","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":310,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:18:11.164Z","text":"机器人的回答","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q799fa06160e8acfcc904","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7fc16c6c32b76a557448","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":311,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:19:45.515Z","text":"在不承认的情况下同意没收程序和对抗同时进行，对老郭更有利。因为有咱们这些神经病可以第三方介入一起干检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fc16c6c32b76a557448","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5955cdf407bedca8c144","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":312,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:20:51.894Z","text":"并且，我认为老郭应该乐意见到这样的场面，老郭带着大家一起战斗，打败检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5955cdf407bedca8c144","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/disc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［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42b90ff4bf8551c782af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3c356836202751004beb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":317,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:36:30.530Z","text":"你是怎么觉得郭会同意没收令的？他只需要不承认资金就可以逼luc出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c356836202751004beb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe0570bcfa6e1d5bebfb4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":318,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:37:34.410Z","text":"检方说没收令下了，卢克会介入","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0570bcfa6e1d5bebfb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8b28c976fd9e9b487de8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":319,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:37:48.880Z","text":"没收令不下，卢克怎么介入啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b28c976fd9e9b487de8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfd7475fa73c23bd986a8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":320,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:39:01.361Z","text":"第三方不在人多或者少。要钱的，排队就行！\n有杀伤力的是要求打掉别的要钱的诉求！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd7475fa73c23bd986a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd724748f63a58d6927a3","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":321,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:39:29.295Z","text":"他介入不代表他参加听证会，他是来抢钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd724748f63a58d6927a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4adf857b29c79a9d35b2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":322,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:40:22.758Z","text":"人少被驳回的可能性就更大","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd7475fa73c23bd986a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4adf857b29c79a9d35b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd7475fa73c23bd986a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7577e12e37d893ff27ab","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":323,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:40:53.305Z","text":"如果按照我设想的路线进行，如果检方用破产案来证明老郭和这些钱有关系。那打掉卢克，这个案子就结束了。第三方打卢克，老郭打卢克，卢克必须回复","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7577e12e37d893ff27ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4af4545356c47e6c38af","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":324,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:41:49.690Z","text":"逼检方证明只需要不承认资金关系就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4af4545356c47e6c38af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe8ec95c1a7fcb5a78d24","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":325,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:42:07.389Z","text":"老郭律师在法庭上和检方卢克交锋，就相当于听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8ec95c1a7fcb5a78d24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7bd4ab27327b50dd6e3d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":326,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:43:13.016Z","text":"被告有机会说话吗？另外辩方律师的态度目前也不清楚，如果他们跟前西一波一样，那不成了引狼入室","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bd4ab27327b50dd6e3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfe56de5d116ab119422a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":327,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:44:23.541Z","text":"检方的713出来这么久，辩方一直都没有回应，为啥不让检方传唤luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe56de5d116ab119422a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5b5d959f0259f51e1221","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":328,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:44:36.934Z","tex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我们第三方上去捅 是为了上诉做准备","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea0e0cc3fb9bbe685ec5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfa83f2e163383532115f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":333,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:52:31.840Z","text":"因为上诉不允许提交新证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa83f2e163383532115f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q811173cc3660a4c2a648","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":334,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:54:10.116Z","text":"倒不如等法官下初步没收令，起码郭这方面没有任何妥协。而且检方会更着急证明资金与郭的关系，被逼拿出破产案法庭令和luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q811173cc3660a4c2a648","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf23543b3f9319acb7688","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":335,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:55:47.036Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q811173cc3660a4c2a648","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf23543b3f9319acb7688","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q811173cc3660a4c2a648","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3083a32908449ca6b218","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":336,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:55:51.833Z","text":"希望他们强行开启","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3083a32908449ca6b218","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6a80ffc21738599a5405","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":337,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:56:02.411Z","text":"检方两周之内就要拿出破产法庭令了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q811173cc3660a4c2a648","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a80ffc21738599a5405","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q811173cc3660a4c2a648","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q187a190c9d0529225790","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":338,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:56:07.242Z","text":"强行没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q187a190c9d0529225790","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0ce6a9146d28f20dc4ba","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":339,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:56:16.548Z","text":"himam这么确定吗😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a80ffc21738599a5405","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ce6a9146d28f20dc4ba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a80ffc21738599a5405","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc9a961c86ec090548088","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":340,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:56:29.806Z","text":"两个星期内，检方会发动议要求法官下没收令。检方必须提交证据证明资金和老郭有关系，只能拿出破产法庭命令。然后法官也许会立刻同意，也许会要求老郭回复之后再做裁定。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a961c86ec090548088","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6047f1a6774db8e3f157","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":341,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:56:39.844Z","text":"除非他们可以用其他方式，证明资产和郭有关","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ce6a9146d28f20dc4ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6047f1a6774db8e3f157","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ce6a9146d28f20dc4ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q40bd341844e64ea69891","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":342,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:56:48.132Z","text":"嗯，这也是一个目的，必须在上诉前把该捅的都捅上去","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea0e0cc3fb9bbe685ec5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40bd341844e64ea69891","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea0e0cc3fb9bbe685ec5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4cc99d4456fea5a009a8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":343,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:57:17.267Z","text":"那样最好，但也可能再来俩星期","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a80ffc21738599a5405","reply_status":"avai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就是保一个底线","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40bd341844e64ea69891","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34ffb53147b53eb96bd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40bd341844e64ea69891","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4385af1c2ce53b7a8a4a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":345,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:57:32.569Z","text":"如果检方不能用其他方式证明资产和郭有关，他们必须拿出破产案法庭令，不然法庭不能下财产没收令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4385af1c2ce53b7a8a4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf9fc6910fecc58e92b62","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":346,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T14:57:35.325Z","text":"检方必须提交证据，才能要求法官强行下达没收令，不能空口无凭。检方提交证据，法官还有可能要求老郭回复","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9fc6910fecc58e92b62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q23165caa1e9fcbe8dc4d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":347,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:57:59.840Z","text":"我觉得现在是不是不没收对检方更有力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4385af1c2ce53b7a8a4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23165caa1e9fcbe8dc4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4385af1c2ce53b7a8a4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0061d30a8d665f77c861","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":348,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:58:05.782Z","text":"如果不没收 会怎么样？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0061d30a8d665f77c861","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4fadb607b231560e5e35","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":349,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:58:08.797Z","text":"继续拖？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fadb607b231560e5e35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa071f87c9ab009b3efa4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":350,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:58:28.904Z","text":"不没收就不能量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa071f87c9ab009b3efa4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf3c125399003c010445c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":351,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:58:42.608Z","text":"我觉得没收肯定是要下来的，第三方也肯定会开启，郭没必要退这一步，态度强硬点，检方会更快拿出证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3083a32908449ca6b218","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3c125399003c010445c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3083a32908449ca6b218","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q720df0ec921bafad868b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":352,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:58:50.510Z","text":"这个状态拖半年 我看检方也很开心啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa071f87c9ab009b3efa4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q720df0ec921bafad868b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa071f87c9ab009b3efa4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa71672874f2c9a817276","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":353,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:59:17.256Z","text":"但检方已经保证两周之内会有动议了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa71672874f2c9a817276","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qaa05bb724ec2459dadd2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":354,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T14:59:41.843Z","text":"检方估计现在还不知道我们这群神经病有多疯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa05bb724ec2459dadd2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qefcab9cee6e4ff6f3c7b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":355,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T14:59:51.599Z","text":"所以他们不会拖了，除非他们没准备好，再拖两周是极限了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefcab9cee6e4ff6f3c7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd0c6be09d91b94be5180","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":356,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:00:04.907Z","text":"我到时候的动议会让托雷斯感觉比吃了苍蝇还难受","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0c6be09d91b94be5180","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa41e1229ce6fea65cd1b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":357,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:00:31.435Z","text":"检方只是动议，同不同意法官说了算","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa71672874f2c9a817276","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa41e1229ce6fea65cd1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa71672874f2c9a817276","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q470f30016a76c99309c1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":358,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:06.675Z","text":"法官说 待我研究研究 半年后再议😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa41e1229ce6fea65cd1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q470f30016a76c99309c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa41e1229ce6fea65cd1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe8029f12430c4a039395","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":359,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:22.723Z","text":"所以被告必须挺住，不能让步","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4385af1c2ce53b7a8a4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8029f12430c4a039395","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4385af1c2ce53b7a8a4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qca020a07213c30c6c040","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":360,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:28.629Z","text":"我是觉得 这案子他们有点智商的话 就拖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca020a07213c30c6c040","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa782e188ce5fb3e40a5c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":361,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:38.477Z","text":"拖是他们的上策","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa782e188ce5fb3e40a5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6b82a0a98bb4a3450df6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":362,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:38.967Z","text":"螺丝哥的意思是，检方两周之内就要拿出证据了，他们要先拿出证据然后没收才能开始","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3c125399003c010445c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b82a0a98bb4a3450df6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3c125399003c010445c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q359f59a312f8470b9693","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":363,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:44.651Z","text":"不是态度硬不硬的问题。检方提交了证据。法官要求老郭回复，老郭就必须回复。如果态度硬，那老郭就直接对抗。对抗检方时，没收令没有下，第三方不能介入。这样对老郭的境况，不如同意没收令，但是不承认资金归属，对抗和没收程序同时进行是更好的选择","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3c125399003c010445c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359f59a312f8470b9693","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3c125399003c010445c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q368795ae74426c12512d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":364,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:48.693Z","text":"至于要钱 就别他妈想le","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q368795ae74426c12512d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf68a34d0586020f2bc54","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":365,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:51.688Z","text":"拖不下去了，luc那也等不起了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca020a07213c30c6c040","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf68a34d0586020f2bc54","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca020a07213c30c6c040","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q648fe38a741991645081","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":366,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:02:02.426Z","text":"那就活该了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf68a34d0586020f2bc54","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648fe38a741991645081","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf68a34d0586020f2bc54","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd56aa1a4e6ef02c80363","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":367,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:03:02.538Z","text":"检方拿出证据之后，法官会问辩方同不同意没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa41e1229ce6fea65cd1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd56aa1a4e6ef02c80363","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa41e1229ce6fea65cd1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4f0bd7ec56e19023b9eb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":368,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T15:04:05.586Z","text":"第三方介入，要钱的人，对老郭没有威胁，只是量刑多少年的问题。要钱的人，排队，协商一个方案就可以。\n反对别人要钱的，才是检方法官头疼的！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f0bd7ec56e19023b9eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q579f2fabc8c6681a2be1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":369,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:04:08.606Z","text":"检方已经保证两周之内会拿出证据了，他们还怎么拖？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf68a34d0586020f2bc54","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q579f2fabc8c6681a2be1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf68a34d0586020f2bc54","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qdb855b75eb62b43981ff","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":370,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:04:30.030Z","text":"法官会拖","edited":false,"reply_to":"q579f2fabc8c6681a2be1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb855b75eb62b43981ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q579f2fabc8c6681a2be1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q40a0f9d56ad5bcf3c6ac","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":371,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:04:46.286Z","text":"法官怎么拖？去度假？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb855b75eb62b43981ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40a0f9d56ad5bcf3c6ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb855b75eb62b43981ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6abcb4c27a379eff012d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":372,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:05:01.739Z","text":"检方出证据后，再同意不迟，那时候连郭加第三方就可以集火检方的程序不正义了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b82a0a98bb4a3450df6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6abcb4c27a379eff012d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b82a0a98bb4a3450df6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe52d0d72323d0c98c156","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":373,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:05:28.150Z","text":"检方拿出证据以后，就算法官不理，辩方律师也可以催","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe52d0d72323d0c98c156","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf2a1bb85d5bb488d46bd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":374,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:05:47.455Z","text":"辩方直接回复我们同意没收不就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2a1bb85d5bb488d46bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q166791550f34c41710e4","batch_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","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1908a54eaf3297eb871","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcad963ff369d605b5ecd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":386,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:11:21.708Z","text":"之前是不是有人说 老郭希望钱给第三方？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe946485f9e61f0c45465","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcad963ff369d605b5ecd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe946485f9e61f0c45465","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q30d0f81dc2c01086976c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":387,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:11:35.614Z","text":"这里的没收是指政府没收退给受害者吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe946485f9e61f0c45465","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30d0f81dc2c01086976c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe946485f9e61f0c45465","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qed998a52041b8934d793","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":388,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:12:01.965Z","text":"现在郭对财产归属是没意见，也就是说检方你爱怎么做怎么做，我没意见。你想没收就没收呗，我就是不承认钱是我的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed998a52041b8934d793","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q2bbcb7ca51c1d9eb0aed","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":389,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T15:12:59.075Z","text":"是初步没收令！初步没收令下之后，解决第三方纠纷和量刑同时进行！然后下达最终没收令！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30d0f81dc2c01086976c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bbcb7ca51c1d9eb0aed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30d0f81dc2c01086976c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa0471e999d17fc1863b7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":390,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:13:28.509Z","text":"继续抗辩的目的是逼检方出证据，证据一出来，马上就可以同意没收，让第三方进场一块干","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1908a54eaf3297eb871","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0471e999d17fc1863b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1908a54eaf3297eb871","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qad3014ea5eafd846127b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":391,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:13:39.169Z","text":"郭律师以前说过，他们希望钱赶紧回到第三方手里","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcad963ff369d605b5ecd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3014ea5eafd846127b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcad963ff369d605b5ecd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9a10f60f640ac6f3b28b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":392,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T15:14:50.986Z","text":"你没有搞明白。检方必须提交证据才能要求法官下达没收令，因为被告不承认，所以检方必须提交证据！那检方就必须拿出破产法庭的东西，否则，怎么证明钱和老郭有关系啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0471e999d17fc1863b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a10f60f640ac6f3b28b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0471e999d17fc1863b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4a5a016604e110e983c4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":393,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:14:56.732Z","text":"这是不是郭给第三方的集结号？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad3014ea5eafd846127b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a5a016604e110e983c4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3014ea5eafd846127b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe7f20e7b20009981cedf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":394,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:15:21.592Z","text":"［用户 him***］  是老律师还是新律师","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4a5a016604e110e983c4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7f20e7b20009981cedf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a5a016604e110e983c4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6d7846512291771630f3","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":395,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:15:39.107Z","text":"710里写的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7f20e7b20009981cedf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d7846512291771630f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7f20e7b20009981cedf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd92d0c662633339ad77a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":396,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T15:15:47.878Z","text":"我不希望钱回到第三方手里。我会反对所有我认为可疑的人！联盟农场搞的，我全部反对！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad3014ea5eafd846127b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd92d0c662633339ad77a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3014ea5eafd846127b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q387de99a1e00919375b7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":397,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:16:15.169Z","text":"第三方也包括luc和盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd92d0c662633339ad77a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q387de99a1e00919375b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd92d0c662633339ad77a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4497a7d8ff54e8283c0c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":398,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:16:47.318Z","text":"郭的新律师在710动议是这么写的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d7846512291771630f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4497a7d8ff54e8283c0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d7846512291771630f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb8a3b0d57375c53d585f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":399,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T15:16:56.976Z","text":"Luc GeyerGavenman,包括喜交所，我全部反对！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8a3b0d57375c53d585f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb91523eebfaecfa1271d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":400,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:17:18.287Z","text":"他们说的是以合法的方式回到第三方手里","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd92d0c662633339ad77a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb91523eebfaecfa1271d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd92d0c662633339ad77a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000015","next_batch_id":"batch-000017"}