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就是混淆视听，转移视线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62c3132f8891b4ef9398","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa10d05dd2a2cbf80303e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":606,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:41:41.962Z","text":"我记得螺丝哥的动议里写过他以前被喝茶的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf8e24f9e61884665793","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa10d05dd2a2cbf80303e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf8e24f9e61884665793","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc22dc21d7da806842775","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":607,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:41:53.503Z","text":"恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc22dc21d7da806842775","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q549d0a5939296cf92269","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":608,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:43:06.361Z","text":"我的意思是法官说诈骗和反共没关系 问题上事实就有关系 投资人就是被威胁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q549d0a5939296cf92269","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc1541d841b7caf23ca5a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":609,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:43:14.850Z","text":"没关系 威胁投资人干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1541d841b7caf23ca5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe106dfd829a411b82314","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":610,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:43:31.380Z","text":"在美国法庭 事实大不过法官","edited":false,"reply_to":"q549d0a5939296cf92269","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe106dfd829a411b82314","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q549d0a5939296cf92269","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc596a208d4f1a4094231","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":611,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:43:38.985Z","text":"法官就是上帝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc596a208d4f1a4094231","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q18b5b59bf47630ad1a45","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":612,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:43:52.923Z","text":"如果你有意见 你可以带着这个 给媒体爆料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18b5b59bf47630ad1a45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q08375b3d9c4c72866e8c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":613,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:44:03.427Z","text":"或者让朱利安尼当特别检察官 去搞法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08375b3d9c4c72866e8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q59c95e52f3706908df44","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":614,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:44:05.338Z","text":"这是可以的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59c95e52f3706908df44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qff8c41cf4922f8f13ac2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":615,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:44:14.160Z","text":"也许可以提一嘴，但是现在第三方发动议只能说和钱相关的，其他的不能说太多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1541d841b7caf23ca5a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff8c41cf4922f8f13ac2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1541d841b7caf23ca5a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q2a965538bf40fe690235","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":616,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:44:14.198Z","text":"事实是 农场主是主谋  老郭才是被冤枉的  共谋  你怎么看不见","edited":false,"reply_to":"q549d0a5939296cf92269","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a965538bf40fe690235","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q549d0a5939296cf92269","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6419ed87c50cb07266f6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":617,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:44:30.443Z","text":"这事另外一码事啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6419ed87c50cb07266f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8f0258a855c9bfb28967","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":618,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:44:40.669Z","text":"我没说这不对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0258a855c9bfb28967","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8b672919b6e7b49a419c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":619,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:44:55.680Z","text":"美国法庭不跟你讲正义  只解决问题  你怎么悟不懂呢？  哎","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6419ed87c50cb07266f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b672919b6e7b49a419c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6419ed87c50cb07266f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qeeff28645e216c500490","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":620,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:45:19.453Z","text":"法官 就是篮球场上的裁判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeff28645e216c500490","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q27e64aec3f24d1fde77a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":621,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:45:33.902Z","text":"你裁判 耍流氓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27e64aec3f24d1fde77a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q67782a69bd1f07c4505d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":622,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:45:40.470Z","text":"人打死了你都不吹犯规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67782a69bd1f07c4505d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6a1191ae9dd2e4e5e284","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":623,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:45:42.548Z","text":"你咋办？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a1191ae9dd2e4e5e284","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q937bf661990b4e2cea1b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":624,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:45:46.115Z","text":"要么你退赛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q937bf661990b4e2cea1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qad927a01166e849e1777","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":625,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:45:50.280Z","text":"要么你打死裁判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad927a01166e849e1777","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q987109ea8eed9643beac","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":626,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:46:03.551Z","text":"否则只能按照裁判的荒唐执法继续","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q987109ea8eed9643beac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7e6c64892ea957940f96","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":627,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:46:34.767Z","text":"你唯一的办法就是在裁判如此不利的判罚下继续比赛并且赢下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e6c64892ea957940f96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd655e00ad9a8a763c4b7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":628,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:46:41.362Z","text":"没有其他办法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd655e00ad9a8a763c4b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6555b1cd015b5f6ec800","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":629,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:47:24.312Z","text":"他应该是不清楚美国法官是怎么回事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6555b1cd015b5f6ec800","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qec35c89f962cf5b516f1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":630,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:47:52.103Z","text":"你只能证明你自己经历的 你也不是联盟里贪污的 说他们也没用啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec35c89f962cf5b516f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8b92e7f6f6b3d7333747","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":631,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:48:25.758Z","text":"你应该是一丢丢都没理解我们这个群在干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec35c89f962cf5b516f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b92e7f6f6b3d7333747","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec35c89f962cf5b516f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7e43bd69be186edd7556","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":632,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:48:34.391Z","text":"但这也正常","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e43bd69be186edd7556","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8aee69c1c6523a790695","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":633,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:48:38.551Z","text":"我都理解了一个月","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aee69c1c6523a790695","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8de1ac609236e664ddcf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":634,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:48:52.528Z","text":"你终于知道了  他都不知道他自己在  搅浑水","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b92e7f6f6b3d7333747","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8de1ac609236e664ddcf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b92e7f6f6b3d7333747","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd5e209a365c0a6234437","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":635,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T20:49:18.777Z","text":"我觉得没必要默认他搅浑水 先把他当白痴😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8de1ac609236e664ddcf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5e209a365c0a6234437","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8de1ac609236e664ddcf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf3a921e1771eeb32b43d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":636,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:49:40.314Z","text":"所以我说 他自己都不知道  他自己是在搅浑水 不自知","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3a921e1771eeb32b43d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5551e8d953a7692bfa26","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":637,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:53:50.521Z","text":"这个群里有被骗登记债权人的，也有被骗登记喜交所的，这都是战友经历的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec35c89f962cf5b516f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5551e8d953a7692bfa26","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec35c89f962cf5b516f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe1d2d07c6ac7597ecf44","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":638,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:54:25.251Z","text":"我登机喜交所了债权人没登记","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1d2d07c6ac7597ecf44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6a4c869de3cbf73d613f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":639,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:55:59.173Z","text":"对啊，写动议就是写你自己经历的，和你财产有关的事情。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a4c869de3cbf73d613f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6d4d00df2c045fc64062","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":640,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:56:30.541Z","text":"因为没收令下了以后就要分财产了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d4d00df2c045fc64062","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6ababa6c5e516ea99b51","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":641,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T20:57:48.923Z","text":"都是被灭爆坑过的人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5551e8d953a7692bfa26","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ababa6c5e516ea99b51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5551e8d953a7692bfa26","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":642,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T20:57:52.980Z","text":"到分财产了 没有新的证据 那是怎么个套路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa90b577085e80a53c90e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":643,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:58:21.020Z","text":"分财产的阶段，每个人就是保护自己财产啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa90b577085e80a53c90e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfafbb8d46d49755d4f85","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":644,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T20:58:28.215Z","text":"就是为了不让他继续进行下去，盖尔，luc带的那群人都是非法的，不能让他们抢我们的投资","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfafbb8d46d49755d4f85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8b7ddcc38b7c068bccbd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":645,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:58:41.146Z","text":"你看到有虚假索赔的，你得保护自己财产啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b7ddcc38b7c068bccbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q266c78866f018df4cd17","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":646,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T20:58:54.861Z","text":"不然你财产不就被别人分走了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q266c78866f018df4cd17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q2796b7a84ab25f115045","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":647,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:00:20.120Z","text":"假债权人，假受害者，假喜交所登记","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2796b7a84ab25f115045","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb7f0aedcf107fe3af4f7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":648,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:00:27.531Z","text":"我们的角色就是不承认是被告受害者，也不认为投资是七哥的钱，那是我们的钱，我们不允许任何人抢我们的钱，你站在这个角度去考虑问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7f0aedcf107fe3af4f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf046b478259d5ec0bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe52589e2013ec2804d1f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":649,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:01:39.268Z","text":"之前王艳萍那会不承认受害者不让说话 现在分财产这个能行吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe52589e2013ec2804d1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe7a12737ad7ff5d8e233","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":650,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:02:29.811Z","text":"盖儿他的动议也不承认受害者 他里面是什么鬼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7a12737ad7ff5d8e233","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q96bbcb66be773e6a36b3","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":651,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:02:40.374Z","text":"怎么弄他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96bbcb66be773e6a36b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6dcdc2a93354628674fa","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":652,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T21:02:43.322Z","text":"我连自己的钱我都不要 我就说 你们这些非法债权人他妈别想抢老子的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dcdc2a93354628674fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9989535b5832c1c02c6e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":653,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:02:52.548Z","text":"王案的请愿人也是无效的吧，王本来就没权利同意处置那些钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe52589e2013ec2804d1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9989535b5832c1c02c6e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe52589e2013ec2804d1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd05b4f6ddf9e3c47aacf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":654,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:03:04.897Z","text":"我已经回答你了 案件与ccp 无关，就和瑞哥给你做饭吃，不需要给你拉屎 一样，你非要问 瑞哥 怎么不想先拉屎😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf1e1346b8cf6c3f82d4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd05b4f6ddf9e3c47aacf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa758c2c8e0dd18ba121b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":655,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T21:03:19.929Z","text":"我要求审查 1: 所有债权人 干扰司法 所以债权人应当作废 2: 审查所有债权人和检方受害人的双重身份者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa758c2c8e0dd18ba121b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4b6ac517cd766bef28b9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":656,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:03:51.669Z","text":"我是觉得盖儿那个动议去错法庭了 不是说什么证明自己是真实客户吗 突然还得强调自己客户不是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b6ac517cd766bef28b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q08362d5cc8d20f98a1b4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":657,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:04:05.985Z","text":"明明不应该有这个事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08362d5cc8d20f98a1b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7bfdef3917c7ef77369d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":658,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:04:23.240Z","text":"债权人又是受害人的话，有什么问题？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa758c2c8e0dd18ba121b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bfdef3917c7ef77369d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa758c2c8e0dd18ba121b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7bf7134dc3d7142fe139","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":659,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:05:14.239Z","text":"对，打盖尔就是打这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b6ac517cd766bef28b9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bf7134dc3d7142fe139","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b6ac517cd766bef28b9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf468514ff730387da8cc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":660,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:05:27.440Z","text":"重叠 就是 左手打右手  合伙洗螺丝哥钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7bfdef3917c7ef77369d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf468514ff730387da8cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bfdef3917c7ef77369d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qad5c93a0b7e55640b8e5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":661,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:05:39.677Z","text":"债权人那个可以这么说 确实虚假申报的 妨碍司法了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad5c93a0b7e55640b8e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q360d4139989decb65c94","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":662,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:06:02.309Z","text":"债权人也是要钱的呀，一到这个点就有点犯迷糊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf468514ff730387da8cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360d4139989decb65c94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf468514ff730387da8cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q46fc2e0053ab4821cb66","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":663,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T21:06:17.278Z","text":"债权人非法索赔。干扰司法 那么债权人名单上的人 就不可信 没有信用 这样的人 难道作为受害者 你不应该删除吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7bfdef3917c7ef77369d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46fc2e0053ab4821cb66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bfdef3917c7ef77369d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4e8971bdefd76afed43d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":664,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:06:43.179Z","text":"奥奥，对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46fc2e0053ab4821cb66","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e8971bdefd76afed43d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46fc2e0053ab4821cb66","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q24b13a4fcbeabd6e6a31","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":665,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:06:46.989Z","text":"双重身份 立场不同 ，一个是共谋 一个是检方 所以左手打右手","edited":false,"reply_to":"q360d4139989decb65c94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24b13a4fcbeabd6e6a31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360d4139989decb65c94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8898322822c89ad62bc1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":666,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:07:08.165Z","text":"引用853n不需要承认自己是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe52589e2013ec2804d1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8898322822c89ad62bc1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe52589e2013ec2804d1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qbbd720e6cfdde7506009","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":667,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:07:15.724Z","text":"你可以查查机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd720e6cfdde7506009","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfe31ee3c0e65855911ea","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":668,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:07:58.602Z","text":"机器人说，引用CVRA，也不一定要承认自己是受害者，你可以问法庭，让法庭裁定你是不是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe31ee3c0e65855911ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qbdcef1c93be1911471fa","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":669,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:09:21.583Z","text":"主要是只要是债权人身份就是虚假索赔，根本没资格做受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24b13a4fcbeabd6e6a31","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdcef1c93be1911471fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24b13a4fcbeabd6e6a31","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7ce2236596d3d37df864","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":670,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:10:01.605Z","text":"不是受害者就不能说话，这件事挺扯淡的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ce2236596d3d37df864","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0a3cd7e93e7578594d5a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":671,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:10:05.246Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1946316330204086692?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a3cd7e93e7578594d5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0e477824a626b8f33561","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":672,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:10:19.600Z","text":"分财产阶段，是投资人就应该有权利说话吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e477824a626b8f33561","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc89623f0751ae8b9687c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":673,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:10:32.017Z","text":"债权人和 受害人 你只能有一个身份，不能两个都有你  比如青藤","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdcef1c93be1911471fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc89623f0751ae8b9687c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdcef1c93be1911471fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa64cdeb3c31cd34c0d48","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":674,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:10:43.024Z","text":"853n就是给投资人说话的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa64cdeb3c31cd34c0d48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc67a5ac65be7baa1e6f8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":675,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:10:57.194Z","text":"所有案件都应该有第三方这个身份吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ce2236596d3d37df864","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67a5ac65be7baa1e6f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ce2236596d3d37df864","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd810a4f6843a69acd8bb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":676,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:12:02.499Z","text":"反正853n，CVRA，无论你引用哪个都可以说话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd810a4f6843a69acd8bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8f40f34f313c0fac910e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":677,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:14:36.509Z","text":"我研究一下 少说少错","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f40f34f313c0fac910e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc7f97b6945b3c789e3a0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":678,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:16:38.670Z","text":"luc自己都承认自己哪里一堆虚假债权人 他怎么处理的 没提吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7f97b6945b3c789e3a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q20ef18825a898412ecf0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":679,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T21:17:36.217Z","text":"盖尔的协议，按照合同的角度，是联盟农场把你坑了，你可以这么告诉法庭，第三方合同欺诈。我在法庭上提了。从从合同欺诈角度，也能打掉盖尔。不但联盟农场坑了你，盖尔也欺诈了客户。盖尔明确知道客户不认为是老郭的受害者，但是盖尔却引用犯罪受害者权利法案，盖尔也有欺诈行为。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b6ac517cd766bef28b9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20ef18825a898412ecf0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b6ac517cd766bef28b9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd3addd89211d58bc18cc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":680,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:17:43.993Z","text":"说是要改索赔金额，问题是他不怕被起诉造假吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7f97b6945b3c789e3a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3addd89211d58bc18cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7f97b6945b3c789e3a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4361bba7a923628d6cf0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":681,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:18:21.431Z","text":"懂了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q20ef18825a898412ecf0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4361bba7a923628d6cf0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20ef18825a898412ecf0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qdd9dff162af4139a4cd6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":682,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:18:55.327Z","text":"这个他是回破产法庭吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3addd89211d58bc18cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd9dff162af4139a4cd6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3addd89211d58bc18cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q411d76144f8b1fdec433","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":683,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:19:11.957Z","text":"这个分财产现在是两个法庭还是一个法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q411d76144f8b1fdec433","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8851eeff45f2fc60a397","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":684,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:19:32.378Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd9dff162af4139a4cd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8851eeff45f2fc60a397","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd9dff162af4139a4cd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6c963f761b924c633344","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":685,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:21:06.630Z","text":"在刑事庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q411d76144f8b1fdec433","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c963f761b924c633344","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q411d76144f8b1fdec433","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5fdaa0b838084bea771b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":686,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T21:22:52.055Z","text":"打盖尔，从合同欺诈出发，是一个角度，从怀疑共谋出发，是另外一个角度，无论从哪个角度出发，都可以打掉盖尔。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4361bba7a923628d6cf0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fdaa0b838084bea771b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4361bba7a923628d6cf0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe97b0dc38e1b4371e93e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":687,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:36:39.331Z","text":"盖儿他引用受害者权利法案 但他动议里又不承认受害者 这合理吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe97b0dc38e1b4371e93e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q29a6e770bcb5f0acd404","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":688,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:39:57.663Z","text":"机器人说，盖尔这个在法律上，叫做错误代表misrepresentation.就是他把他的客户的身份变成了受害者，这是在没有经过客户认可的情况下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe97b0dc38e1b4371e93e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29a6e770bcb5f0acd404","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe97b0dc38e1b4371e93e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6e6fc5ec3d859633fe84","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":689,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:40:46.945Z","text":"他如果想以受害者身份代表客户，他需要授权，好像是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e6fc5ec3d859633fe84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q37f15c452d406a7c0deb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":690,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T21:46:08.073Z","text":"我抓到一个重大程序不正义！！n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37f15c452d406a7c0deb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q35d64edee7258964c587","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":691,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T21:46:14.076Z","text":"而且自诉人完全可以写！！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35d64edee7258964c587","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1c627e5fa0462f3d0b79","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":692,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T21:46:31.516Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  依然是你之前说过的东西！！！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c627e5fa0462f3d0b79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0d7e6462829e8bbf72a2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":693,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:51:01.918Z","text":"布雷迪都没人提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d7e6462829e8bbf72a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q48cf29783076b5740180","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":694,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:51:14.696Z","text":"我查了一下 机器人说这俩不冲突 引用法案 不代表承认受害人身份","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29a6e770bcb5f0acd404","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48cf29783076b5740180","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29a6e770bcb5f0acd404","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q22d4d11ac7792a1ab7c5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":695,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:51:20.587Z","text":"辩方也一直没提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22d4d11ac7792a1ab7c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q70e63186224026afde46","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":696,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:51:21.949Z","text":"检方只摘录了老郭这段话里妨碍司法的那句","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70e63186224026afde46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q15eed807a3bcf1e1f1c2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":697,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:52:18.091Z","text":"本来是一段话，他们就挑了一句","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15eed807a3bcf1e1f1c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9256ebbc56c0863a8ae5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":698,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:53:49.412Z","text":"但是盖尔的动议里多次提到“受害人”这个词, 他不只是引用了CVRA而已。关键是检方把这些人看作受害人了没有。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48cf29783076b5740180","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9256ebbc56c0863a8ae5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48cf29783076b5740180","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5172932b3a236a38f57d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":699,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:54:40.367Z","text":"盖尔后来的动议里就不再提是谁的受害人了，只是说受害人，这就是在混淆概念","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9256ebbc56c0863a8ae5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5172932b3a236a38f57d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9256ebbc56c0863a8ae5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q09495a266812b4691d22","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":700,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T21:55:44.485Z","text":"布雷迪证据，你不能直接说检方没有提交给被告。检方之前的文件轰炸，可能会给sabrina,但是，隐藏在几万份文件里面，让你找不到。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09495a266812b4691d22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6b5282583eb0eff6df4e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":701,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T21:56:28.271Z","text":"就是很暧昧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5172932b3a236a38f57d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b5282583eb0eff6df4e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5172932b3a236a38f57d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf281322815c245cbf14b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":702,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T21:56:36.404Z","text":"布雷迪证据，第三方提，好像不太合适。你要是顺便质疑一下，应该没有问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf281322815c245cbf14b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3e29f0db71e482bf47ea","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":703,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:57:05.354Z","text":"如果盖尔他不同意自己的客户是受害人，他可以引用853n，但是他没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b5282583eb0eff6df4e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e29f0db71e482bf47ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b5282583eb0eff6df4e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q678915d92f2d30e8bf86","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":704,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T21:57:33.558Z","text":"布雷迪你有跟律师说吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q470fa04ae34e4d3ca16d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q678915d92f2d30e8bf86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3d7a1bb4c96bb5a4ad2f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":705,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:57:43.850Z","text":"盖尔第一次要钱用的是41g，反对财产没收，这个41g就是853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d7a1bb4c96bb5a4ad2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc9fc3940bbb34e91a7cb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":706,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T21:57:57.481Z","text":"盖尔第二次要钱，引用了一堆法条，也包括853。但是，盖尔强调，犯罪受害者法案权利最大","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e29f0db71e482bf47ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9fc3940bbb34e91a7cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e29f0db71e482bf47ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q73ba1e977d297b829fe1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":707,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:58:01.316Z","text":"那他第二次去为什么没有引用853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73ba1e977d297b829fe1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qae865f7c2749ba6d0c32","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":708,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T21:58:42.730Z","text":"用853n要钱比cvra要快啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae865f7c2749ba6d0c32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa0beab242d82a12237b8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":709,"speaker":"him***","date":"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rui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5de4c14f81b0e12660c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfffd9797af1a4caee18f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":720,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T22:07:14.188Z","text":"就是这个视频","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfffd9797af1a4caee18f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q75d2e947c7e36e615964","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":721,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T22:07:37.528Z","text":"检方引用的就是 让他trustee积累到一万个亿那句","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75d2e947c7e36e615964","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qed03eeaea71cbfa599dc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":722,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T22:07:59.687Z","text":"要找到文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75d2e947c7e36e615964","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed03eeaea71cbfa599dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75d2e947c7e36e615964","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa03c9c6deda45b9fe566","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":723,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T22:08:38.672Z","text":"盖尔第二次要钱是在定罪之后啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc906baf1b4d740bdcdf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa03c9c6deda45b9fe566","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc906baf1b4d740bdcdf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q2cf72ca2185ff14a0967","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":724,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:08:43.190Z","text":"律师都没强调这些 证人也不足 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我记不清了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04bf028fa281cfc59d0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q949bb9275c6d58ad67e4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":732,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:17:51.397Z","text":"gtv报案还合理因为九指妖 喜交所怎么弄进去的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q949bb9275c6d58ad67e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q837e05fa61d3ff184cf0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":733,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T22:18:50.352Z","text":"喜交所应该也是有人报案，把账户给扣押了，才造成无法出入金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q837e05fa61d3ff184cf0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8ae56b89689a5566e157","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":734,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T22:18:59.442Z","text":"已知受害者几千人 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喜交所里钱七哥的财产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbfe470ed0cf09e0e27a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5ee42f89a7b40c4d10f4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":747,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:26:51.833Z","text":"因为2022没有这个刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ee42f89a7b40c4d10f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5e10b843913f8b8d3279","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":748,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T22:26:58.443Z","text":"法庭文件里面只是提了一句，政府司法扣押，什么细节也没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbfe470ed0cf09e0e27a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e10b843913f8b8d3279","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbfe470ed0cf09e0e27a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc91deab6cbca80a62220","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":749,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:27:02.803Z","text":"那会钱冻结了 喜交所也不说咋回事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc91deab6cbca80a62220","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc5f790b4b031371cb3bb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":750,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:27:51.364Z","text":"这个得问问盖儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5f790b4b031371cb3bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1c3b23d06f6760ce9558","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":751,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T22:27:57.275Z","text":"喜交所没有说。联盟农场没有说，老郭也没有细说，老郭只是说出金入金不正常","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc91deab6cbca80a62220","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c3b23d06f6760ce9558","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc91deab6cbca80a62220","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6a0bea347bd21e7332cd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":752,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T22:34:57.871Z","text":"［用户 him***］  ［用户 chu***］ 当时几万份布雷迪 是给辩方多久时间？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a0bea347bd21e7332cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qdf768ef10d03aa17801b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":753,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:36:29.063Z","text":"有可能 比如洗钱 找人打几笔黑钱就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3df9ec577c0df247160d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf768ef10d03aa17801b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe6cd40ccd24010981739","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":754,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:37:29.259Z","text":"对 因为这个扣押才是这么多人要钱的原因","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25866e059f8d6ae01bdd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6cd40ccd24010981739","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q15b6d1067aa2dcaefe15","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":755,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T22:37:55.626Z","text":"大家是不是应该有知情权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15b6d1067aa2dcaefe15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6b59ba0f12d5643ca687","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":756,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T22:38:16.073Z","text":"郭文贵翻案翻定了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b59ba0f12d5643ca687","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcfa2c3c2ca47c1194e0e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":757,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T22:38:25.985Z","text":"邮件里说是因为当时起诉书没有解密，喜交所不能通知用户","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc91deab6cbca80a62220","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfa2c3c2ca47c1194e0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc91deab6cbca80a62220","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4bf9de6efaab312feefd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":758,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T22:46:14.182Z","text":"盖尔也说过，政府扣押的钱，才造成受害者。没有用，不理你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bf9de6efaab312feefd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q24653043bca1abf540cc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":759,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T22:49:06.687Z","text":"布雷迪这事律师提最合适，第三方只能提跟自己钱有关的，得使劲往上靠才行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd21585c61baf01cafbb4","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24653043bca1abf540cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qbf4dcc825f6bf9780968","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":760,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:03:56.908Z","text":"这个我看过 那个人比侦探还聪明 而且就不妥协 现实里陪审团就没这种人才了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf4dcc825f6bf9780968","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9eac19f76599c6c10381","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":761,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:04:57.199Z","text":"这个案子好几个事一起说 而且检方人海战术陪审员也迷糊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9eac19f76599c6c10381","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qdf40b72eee492412eb0c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":762,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T23:11:53.965Z","text":"［用户 chu***］   thousands受害人 是哪个文件？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf40b72eee492412eb0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa21023bb14ed3b3a83bf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":763,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T23:12:34.659Z","text":"文件10文件10-1，文件11\n通知受害者程序的那两个文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa21023bb14ed3b3a83bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfc889b861a3f69db46bf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":764,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T23:14:41.646Z","text":"法官直接驳回，不让我问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc889b861a3f69db46bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q01aeabb70e72ca50e0a9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":765,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T23:15:10.569Z","text":"sabrina也不问，老郭也不问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01aeabb70e72ca50e0a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe2552cb2f1afb5381d5b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":766,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:16:43.593Z","text":"这个是起诉书说的上千受害者吗？所以检方的意思是他不知道那几千人是虚假的债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q691690543c2402fe871b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2552cb2f1afb5381d5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qabcd1bab647b5f30f215","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":767,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T23:16:59.424Z","text":"羊帮是只在法庭外面问，不上庭去问！所以我最恨羊帮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabcd1bab647b5f30f215","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3f28b1dc926c1cc53799","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":768,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:17:58.674Z","text":"所以检方和luc是共谋吗😅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f28b1dc926c1cc53799","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb57c79a3668cdb5678c7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":769,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:19:53.523Z","text":"那不几千受害者给他俩联系一起去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb57c79a3668cdb5678c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe6ef430ceb79be87d32b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":770,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:19:59.574Z","text":"之前没有几千的事啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6ef430ceb79be87d32b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0a057f073223b925efe0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":771,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:21:19.551Z","text":"后面又说几千债权人是假的 那起诉书用的假债权人起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a057f073223b925efe0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6f2f064817bf161c5984","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":772,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:21:51.980Z","text":"是啊 不然从那凑几千人给他们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f2f064817bf161c5984","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc2617479a4fcdce5a6bc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":773,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:23:02.179Z","text":"把喜交所算进去也不好使 我们说我们不是受害者 那他们那受害者哪找的 是不是编的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2617479a4fcdce5a6bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q2e78c31215264d3fc667","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":774,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:24:59.277Z","text":"所以结论是检方编的受害者 他们有没有隐瞒 他们编受害者这事 那个布雷迪就能用了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e78c31215264d3fc667","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa9d9631fbaca4f1c5dbd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":775,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:28:12.621Z","text":"后来又改了起诉书 忘了有没有这个了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9d9631fbaca4f1c5dbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa96e06a6ab09264a2d0c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":776,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T23:31:23.898Z","text":"［用户 him***］  ［用户 ntp***］  毒树之果今天先不要传出去","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa96e06a6ab09264a2d0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa3559b3b7d202d060cc9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":777,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:33:23.807Z","text":"那就问问检方那几千个受害者 是不是luc说的债权人 这些虚假债权人 检方和luc是否知情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3559b3b7d202d060cc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q28fd96bbd92a1c5bf24b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":778,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-07-18T23:35:48.836Z","text":"那他们知不知情都影响我要钱 因为他们不专业 这跟我就有关系了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28fd96bbd92a1c5bf24b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe071d169809216b21bd0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":779,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T00:50:45.592Z","text":"是的。美国妥协 和解 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他们没资格跟我们争这个钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe26fb1604806cc2d846d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1f9e18cd330664caf63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q930211d2ef64a82f5892","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":782,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T01:08:45.816Z","text":"我前面就跟你说了  左手打右手  你咋还没看懂？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f28b1dc926c1cc53799","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q930211d2ef64a82f5892","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f28b1dc926c1cc53799","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q554eccdc3aeae6cc3d66","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":783,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T01:10:24.434Z","text":"法官要保护受害者信息  怕你报复受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4249c0b0311d053c3045","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q554eccdc3aeae6cc3d66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1b899e42dd9338d34690","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":784,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T01:13:15.908Z","text":"是的 分开写 比较好 也不要一起找律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb00306f94153d1a3291","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b899e42dd9338d34690","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7c837d18f4ed2385b943","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":785,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-19T01:57:12.801Z","text":"https://x.com/yooorica/status/1945882753041346879?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c837d18f4ed2385b943","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb536d1356c4a749161a8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":786,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-19T01:57:42.533Z","text":"王的前律师被利益冲突给否了，现在是第三巡回法庭法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb536d1356c4a749161a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc72a09a193c2ddd85f87","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":787,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T01:58:26.928Z","text":"这个人也被联盟夸","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb536d1356c4a749161a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc72a09a193c2ddd85f87","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb536d1356c4a749161a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4a58d6595d6f340be889","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":788,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T01:58:31.245Z","text":"小心为妙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a58d6595d6f340be889","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q16afacff5efe647da5c4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":789,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-19T01:58:47.014Z","text":"这个新闻是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16afacff5efe647da5c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6f8234aaf1833006ef92","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":790,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-19T01:59:21.581Z","text":"不管谁发的，这个信息值得关注下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8234aaf1833006ef92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe80641eda32d8cc76630","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":791,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-19T01:59:54.593Z","text":"王极大概率是这个律师被迫离开后，新律师的诱供","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe80641eda32d8cc76630","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qacb081284ce60da7ce82","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":792,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:19:11.507Z","text":"确实有可能！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe80641eda32d8cc76630","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacb081284ce60da7ce82","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe80641eda32d8cc76630","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe4c586d6e54125dbfc76","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":793,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:19:20.351Z","text":"我靠 我今天发现的东西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4c586d6e54125dbfc76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q62b766d70d29b3bc8ff2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":794,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:19:26.130Z","text":"我都不打算在推特上说了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62b766d70d29b3bc8ff2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe9565f535d090c7e5658","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":795,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:19:31.637Z","text":"太重磅了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9565f535d090c7e5658","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc6a7a9195c40bafda020","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":796,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:19:34.851Z","text":"大家都别提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a7a9195c40bafda020","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q547b2401e933db3622b9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":797,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T02:24:21.190Z","text":"打死所有登过记的 😂 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