{"id":"batch-000016","number":16,"revision":2,"date_start":"2025-07-17T13:22:46.381Z","date_end":"2025-07-19T10:25:53.503Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 016 (Jul 17, 2025 – Jul 19, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants examined asset forfeiture proceedings and post-trial strategies, analyzing distinctions between innocent third-party petitions under Rule 853(n) and the Crime Victims' Rights Act (CVRA). Community members debated drafting pro se motions, applying the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine against creditor filings, and navigating judicial restrictions on referencing the CCP. 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就烧高香了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e368a903d3d22c7906b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7bc36483c1e52077bd47","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":802,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T02:26:48.097Z","text":"农场的[屏蔽词]还活在梦中，我们把 B52 都派出去了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bc36483c1e52077bd47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q90284bdb85f547e90296","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":803,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T02:28:43.033Z","text":"老郭说了 兜里要藏得住馍馍，瑞恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90284bdb85f547e90296","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q248e3e094dce473feb09","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":804,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T02:47:30.216Z","text":"他们应该算违法吧。那些登记？瑞哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q248e3e094dce473feb09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q08c979af8d9417ae030d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":805,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-19T02:48:08.218Z","text":"虚假举报 虚假申报","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08c979af8d9417ae030d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7e459b7376bde06092f1","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":806,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:49:19.660Z","text":"我觉得 直接下结论比较好","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8d4cfbac6e9290de498","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e459b7376bde06092f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q80d28af5051761fa26fc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":807,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:49:28.277Z","text":"因为有可能 你不下结论","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80d28af5051761fa26fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf37982eaa806dda67e5b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":808,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:49:30.622Z","text":"也把你打回来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf37982eaa806dda67e5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q468c170eab070324a1d8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":809,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T02:59:56.967Z","text":"https://x.com/rianna_gao/status/1946401711431827529?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q468c170eab070324a1d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qbc6112b4a3692951f2e9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":810,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T03:00:07.715Z","text":"这个凯里音乐 我真的不忍吐槽…","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc6112b4a3692951f2e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qda7149cdb5fea3884c81","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":811,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T03:09:07.944Z","text":"芮内同志，我给她留言多次程序不正义，装聋作哑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda7149cdb5fea3884c81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3dde82b443217cd94d1f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":812,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T03:54:37.751Z","text":"https://x.com/whoismilesguo/status/1946393433683472744?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dde82b443217cd94d1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4f15613d19375f384b5d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":813,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T03:55:20.062Z","text":"我建议你们去他下面留言，探讨程序不正义。我推特留言功能被废了，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f15613d19375f384b5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q22a3c8d6333ac4d9cdd9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":814,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-19T06:24:25.310Z","text":"罗伊这个臭小子还在表演。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22a3c8d6333ac4d9cdd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfaff8567eeb7cc4531f4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":815,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:03:49.668Z","text":"一切谜题都解开了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaff8567eeb7cc4531f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5e51568838d784125503","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":816,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:04:07.200Z","text":"thousands 债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e51568838d784125503","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5bf6f3ee513e05f42ddb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":817,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:04:10.796Z","text":"又是g系列投资者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bf6f3ee513e05f42ddb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf7d5d6efc74ad50ce3b5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":818,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:04:29.848Z","text":"身份重叠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7d5d6efc74ad50ce3b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q552dc4baa68cb5aac4ac","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":819,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:04:39.365Z","text":"所以 检方说是受害者！！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q552dc4baa68cb5aac4ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa861662dc46c22bd1346","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":820,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:04:49.960Z","text":"我查了 315之前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa861662dc46c22bd1346","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1381685374bb7f478c93","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":821,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:05:02.421Z","text":"有上千号债权人了！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1381685374bb7f478c93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1ce8f6981bd90ba0e1ab","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":822,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:06:04.219Z","text":"就是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ce8f6981bd90ba0e1ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q70f2d58dd929878b0f96","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":823,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:07:01.282Z","text":"我他妈下周要给检方飙电话过去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70f2d58dd929878b0f96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8cd3904eb290d27454a5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":824,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:07:07.907Z","text":"我要问问我他妈是不是受害人！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cd3904eb290d27454a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0c0ead95500a573ffd3f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":825,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:07:18.233Z","text":"老子从来没登记过受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c0ead95500a573ffd3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfd0234d5a9cb8441cb86","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":826,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:07:48.110Z","text":"如果[屏蔽词]我在名单里","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd0234d5a9cb8441cb86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8dae52312fab27dfc6e3","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":827,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T07:20:48.206Z","text":"你最好查一下1月18号之前，都有哪些人。就是卢克在老郭鼓动之前接受了谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1381685374bb7f478c93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dae52312fab27dfc6e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1381685374bb7f478c93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q82bcfa65c6660942aafb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":828,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:23:18.838Z","text":"没几个人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dae52312fab27dfc6e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82bcfa65c6660942aafb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dae52312fab27dfc6e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6ca700ea38575974cf07","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":829,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:23:32.524Z","text":"50多个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ca700ea38575974cf07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd601280af74f20203c5c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":830,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:23:48.798Z","text":"大多数匿名","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd601280af74f20203c5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfa4709b0c3d2b310c518","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":831,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:25:12.864Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  himam说 检方把老郭债权人视频掐头去尾的 是哪个文件？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4709b0c3d2b310c518","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q745a66d72a217e7d0f0f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":832,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T07:27:45.390Z","text":"［用户 him***］  检方把老郭视频掐头去尾的是哪个文件？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q745a66d72a217e7d0f0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q55f5b88e52252a6e648b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":833,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T08:11:29.230Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55f5b88e52252a6e648b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q79c007ce524adecfd3f2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":834,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T08:11:39.046Z","text":"再加上文件7","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79c007ce524adecfd3f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8f4e7c83081dd754afbd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":835,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T08:12:20.303Z","text":"那就是检方的文件26，文件192","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f4e7c83081dd754afbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q627656efed0d225938cb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":836,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T08:52:35.143Z","text":"债权人登记就是毒树，后面的315以及后续的一切都是毒树之果","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe26fb1604806cc2d846d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q627656efed0d225938cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4e07a4180f22331d3f3e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":837,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T08:53:12.292Z","text":"对 我来整理一下逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q627656efed0d225938cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e07a4180f22331d3f3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q627656efed0d225938cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q73f241f98266c6f04959","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":838,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T08:54:07.254Z","text":"说到底还是得干死债权人登记，这个没了后面就都没了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f241f98266c6f04959","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q759fd14fd7579c29da02","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":839,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T08:54:24.212Z","text":"什么情况x留言被封了吗.？多久可以解封","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f15613d19375f384b5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q759fd14fd7579c29da02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f15613d19375f384b5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe0ce3a275ed736dc2ac0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":840,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T08:54:32.853Z","text":"这不就是夜王和丧尸吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ce3a275ed736dc2ac0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q728a32576df020dbdfcf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":841,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T08:55:26.048Z","text":"你挑衅太多人了，肯定有一批举报你的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f15613d19375f384b5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q728a32576df020dbdfcf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f15613d19375f384b5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q47d9fd7584bc4b9512d8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":842,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T08:55:38.110Z","text":"应该是留言太多了。没有被封。就是给别人推下留言，打开那个人的推后，我自己也看不见留言，其他人肯定也看不到","edited":false,"reply_to":"q759fd14fd7579c29da02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47d9fd7584bc4b9512d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q759fd14fd7579c29da02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q00c60af44d53733b9a6c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":843,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T08:56:18.844Z","text":"我的贴显示有一条留言，但不显示内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00c60af44d53733b9a6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q61a5ec6075e1fe43d138","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":844,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-19T08:56:50.135Z","text":"那就消停一阵子，先不給别人留言了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a5ec6075e1fe43d138","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q05443fce66cacc57f88c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":845,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T08:59:04.276Z","text":"1: 检方初始抓人的受害人 thousand 受害人 完全依靠债权人登记。 因为债权人登记 和g系列身份大量重合  所以检方认为 债权人就是受害人 2: 在1的前提下 检方有意还是无意忽略郭文贵在视频里面暗示的：luc事先接受虚假索赔 而检方反而在反对保释文件里面掐头去尾 检方的这个疏忽 还是故意的 导致了郭文贵被关到现在 这就构成了“毒树之果“","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05443fce66cacc57f88c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd292e30d629e93748e19","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":846,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T08:59:52.689Z","text":"毒树之果 要在抓捕完全依赖债权人的时候，而检方又把这个债权人不合法的因素忽略 或者故意排除","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd292e30d629e93748e19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5b7203dab6fde44a2b73","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":847,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T08:59:58.674Z","text":"这就构成毒树之果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b7203dab6fde44a2b73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb70db12f9dd71a5a2964","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":848,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:00:15.028Z","text":"毒树之果形成以后，按照规定 315之后 所有进来的受害人 全都不算数","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb70db12f9dd71a5a2964","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q466d967f8541f2e20c9a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":849,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:00:17.726Z","text":"全都打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q466d967f8541f2e20c9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa12d99c8a92aeebb02cd","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":850,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:00:29.634Z","text":"所以， 315后 没有受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa12d99c8a92aeebb02cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5d1795815e90a13d1f52","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":851,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:01:24.938Z","text":"315前 受害人是债权人 债权人又是妨碍司法 又是共谋 所以315前的受害人 全都不能算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1795815e90a13d1f52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q22b72f1dac921046a746","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":852,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:01:37.640Z","text":"剩下的受害人有多少？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b72f1dac921046a746","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q69bf07dd85fedf81b565","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":853,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:01:55.884Z","text":"后续所谓的受害人都是建立在债权人登记造成的七哥被捕立案之上的，所以都是毒树之果，债券人登记无效，后面一切都无效","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2552cb2f1afb5381d5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69bf07dd85fedf81b565","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2552cb2f1afb5381d5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q75546d5932e3edd1299c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":854,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:02:20.350Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69bf07dd85fedf81b565","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75546d5932e3edd1299c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69bf07dd85fedf81b565","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc4573805a8bd691d4ad4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":855,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:02:34.232Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  这是你那个逻辑的法律术语","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4573805a8bd691d4ad4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1200645c8307eebf5796","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":856,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:02:41.269Z","text":"总算他妈找到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1200645c8307eebf5796","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q70c19499a191c741eac6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":857,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:02:50.336Z","text":"但是毒树之果 要想成立 得非点口舌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70c19499a191c741eac6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q12b2a0423b03fd78607b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":858,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:03:09.327Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 你再问一下机器人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12b2a0423b03fd78607b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qbe4028c3ed03c037d9d7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":859,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:06:17.683Z","text":"假设一个场景： 郭文贵案 检方初始抓人的受害人 只有依靠债权人登记，因为债权人和g系列大量重叠 检方所以把债权人当受害人。 然后，债权人又被托雷斯的法庭命令判为干扰司法，还有，债权人登记是联盟农场局操作，联盟农场在被托雷斯法庭文件里面定义为犯罪工具。最后，郭文贵被捕前 曾经有暗示 luc最初接受了虚假索赔，而检方看了这个视频却把这个事情不知原因的掐头去尾，在其他法律文件里面应用，导致检方遗漏了可以纠察债权人不合法的证据。 这个情况下 检方的行为是不是毒树之果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4028c3ed03c037d9d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb4055dd40ac53642f6f5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":860,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:07:58.888Z","text":"我们只需要赌两件事： 1: 初始受害人 90%以上都是债权人 2: 如七哥说 luc确实是先接受的拱卒这个虚假债权人。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe4028c3ed03c037d9d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4055dd40ac53642f6f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4028c3ed03c037d9d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7dcb3dad5fc4e182900a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":861,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:08:00.746Z","text":"估计ai 看不懂😅","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe4028c3ed03c037d9d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dcb3dad5fc4e182900a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4028c3ed03c037d9d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa00ad15ae766c0264a73","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":862,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:08:03.817Z","text":"只要这两件事赌对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa00ad15ae766c0264a73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe341ffe9172f0db57102","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":863,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:08:06.796Z","text":"就翻案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe341ffe9172f0db57102","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q57e68d1b6bbf35075ed5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":864,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:08:10.854Z","text":"看得懂的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7dcb3dad5fc4e182900a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57e68d1b6bbf35075ed5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dcb3dad5fc4e182900a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q93d8aa2a989a165261d7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":865,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:09:42.378Z","text":"果然符合毒树之果，这是不是得发给七哥的律师看看吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05443fce66cacc57f88c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93d8aa2a989a165261d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05443fce66cacc57f88c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8577a6235d07e7ce7e0f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":866,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:00.570Z","text":"不用 咱们自己上！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93d8aa2a989a165261d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8577a6235d07e7ce7e0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93d8aa2a989a165261d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qeee4acfcf0552fcb898c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":867,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:13.551Z","text":"发动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8577a6235d07e7ce7e0f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeee4acfcf0552fcb898c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8577a6235d07e7ce7e0f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qaca98ced5dd94a6a9770","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":868,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:16.832Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaca98ced5dd94a6a9770","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4ac7e7a82a4d89e67936","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":869,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:36.263Z","text":"直接打脸法官？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ac7e7a82a4d89e67936","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd431f899537a9265fb94","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":870,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:43.325Z","text":"把这个讲出来 然后毒树之果 也就是说，你的动议是： 债权人里面所有人都不得索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd431f899537a9265fb94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q038abd925d6ab5e6fdf2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":871,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:49.860Z","text":"因为妨碍司法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q038abd925d6ab5e6fdf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa4d4571797d10621bed3","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":872,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:55.488Z","text":"他怎么允许毒果出现的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4d4571797d10621bed3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5bde430ddae91ba2b64f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":873,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:10:59.023Z","text":"干回来说明你说到点上了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c682de4aa6f9b954078","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bde430ddae91ba2b64f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe0aa1387e97f25b23e05","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":874,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:11:04.674Z","text":"又因为毒树之果315之后的受害人 全都不允许索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0aa1387e97f25b23e05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3079762d210b2f70ccf9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":875,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:11:28.240Z","text":"所以 跟我竞争的索赔人 只剩下他们合法投资人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3079762d210b2f70ccf9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qaa9d4b2c9d49af753c61","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":876,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:11:38.252Z","text":"和315之前的非债权人的受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa9d4b2c9d49af753c61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc5ff0a658ef378c3ddb8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":877,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:12:10.638Z","text":"把这个说出来 法官当场潮喷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5ff0a658ef378c3ddb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9dcb668f4fdb6af8e2ef","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":878,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:12:31.887Z","text":"我就是奔着被拒绝去的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dcb668f4fdb6af8e2ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q41fe63a2167a9f87ff73","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":879,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:13:32.027Z","text":"这个检方不隐瞒不就不打自招了吗，捏造证据，司法陷害郭文贵","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e78c31215264d3fc667","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41fe63a2167a9f87ff73","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e78c31215264d3fc667","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcb27aa92e0aadb9045db","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":880,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:13:33.251Z","text":"你就说 你说的一切都是为了维护自己利益","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb27aa92e0aadb9045db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q76c9a8e4d669778f2142","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":881,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:13:47.940Z","text":"你对案情的情况 毫无兴趣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76c9a8e4d669778f2142","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qaf8c652fcd06b0af5206","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":882,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:13:55.043Z","text":"你甚至可以砸一下郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf8c652fcd06b0af5206","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9e7c726a0b5d55955696","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":883,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:14:14.090Z","text":"比如感谢检方的工作 抓捕犯罪分子 什么什么的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e7c726a0b5d55955696","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qba04fab80d81cbe98116","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":884,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:16:56.690Z","text":"所以我们现在还有一件事情要做 就是做实检方抓人的初始受害人就是债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4d4571797d10621bed3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba04fab80d81cbe98116","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4d4571797d10621bed3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q707af3694e9343465b4b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":885,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:17:15.644Z","text":"我们知道这个99%是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q707af3694e9343465b4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q42b9a64cd64dc8474534","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":886,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:17:20.730Z","text":"但也想要个准信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42b9a64cd64dc8474534","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4db3cff8aa93f07eb8c6","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":887,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:17:21.552Z","text":"你可以说：我坚定的认为。\n这句话是不是可以表达你的意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe78b874732cee32f03c2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db3cff8aa93f07eb8c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4dd2ebe6e10913928a40","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":888,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:18:00.632Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4db3cff8aa93f07eb8c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dd2ebe6e10913928a40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db3cff8aa93f07eb8c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6f9f7422f8e8e2723b58","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":889,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:18:33.791Z","text":"既规避了责任，又强调肯定了你的想法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9f7422f8e8e2723b58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7600b4c046cd207e9c58","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":890,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:20:16.410Z","text":"光毒树之果 如何用到这案子上 估计一半人听不懂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7600b4c046cd207e9c58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q25229ed288e6d9fa73cc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":891,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:21:22.797Z","text":"别让法庭把联盟给定罪了。\n青藤爱郭贼他们不能代表联盟，就像ccp不能代表中国人一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25229ed288e6d9fa73cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qea4f96e67cd1fbbd5237","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":892,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:21:55.450Z","text":"不要玻璃心 联盟被定罪我觉得很好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25229ed288e6d9fa73cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea4f96e67cd1fbbd5237","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25229ed288e6d9fa73cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5577867d1f45689d109f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":893,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:22:16.936Z","text":"还是要搞清楚这个利益第三方有没有资格提，如果不行就捅给律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6a7a9195c40bafda020","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5577867d1f45689d109f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a7a9195c40bafda020","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qfdfcafa94bfe94cda18e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":894,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:22:26.597Z","text":"查了 有的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5577867d1f45689d109f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdfcafa94bfe94cda18e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5577867d1f45689d109f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7c5ee206d896272ac256","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":895,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:22:39.520Z","text":"还有受害者可不可以提，","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6a7a9195c40bafda020","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c5ee206d896272ac256","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a7a9195c40bafda020","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8373a9c6da7d8aeb4e78","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":896,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:23:06.281Z","text":"那就入了他们的坑了。\n他们之所以明目张胆的直播作假，目的可能就是要把nfsc彻底搞沉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea4f96e67cd1fbbd5237","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8373a9c6da7d8aeb4e78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea4f96e67cd1fbbd5237","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0367b91ecf87241062cc","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":897,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:23:08.326Z","text":"啥意思？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c5ee206d896272ac256","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0367b91ecf87241062cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c5ee206d896272ac256","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9c34eda6dbc95005fc95","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":898,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:23:22.501Z","text":"我认为搞沉也没什么大不了的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8373a9c6da7d8aeb4e78","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c34eda6dbc95005fc95","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8373a9c6da7d8aeb4e78","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa6191a488a15d1d9d78d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":899,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:23:32.480Z","text":"老郭不就是想用nfsc来钓鱼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6191a488a15d1d9d78d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa1df044faa43314efe0b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":900,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:23:48.435Z","text":"把这些人定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1df044faa43314efe0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3869bf96abb03708fefe","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":901,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:23:57.145Z","text":"弄成铁案 就是灭共","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3869bf96abb03708fefe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q216d9b3f6c488b2df50a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":902,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:24:00.780Z","text":"你可以说是联盟领导层有计划的集体背叛。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea4f96e67cd1fbbd5237","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q216d9b3f6c488b2df50a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea4f96e67cd1fbbd5237","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q50df2f61ff233694967a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":903,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:24:16.478Z","text":"现在咱这是既有第三方又有受害人，攻防双备，要啥有啥😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50df2f61ff233694967a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf657dcb4963c78dd6f0e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":904,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:24:31.876Z","text":"长岛联盟已经 被托雷斯 定为共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q216d9b3f6c488b2df50a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf657dcb4963c78dd6f0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q216d9b3f6c488b2df50a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q904cc5db2823b1c5a08e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":905,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:24:39.058Z","text":"青藤联盟迟早","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q904cc5db2823b1c5a08e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qef4c903cc8b9eecbda0d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":906,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:24:42.908Z","text":"nfsc定罪，七哥几乎没有犯案机会了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c34eda6dbc95005fc95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef4c903cc8b9eecbda0d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c34eda6dbc95005fc95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q42af8ce104ee22cc4131","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":907,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:25:03.768Z","text":"nfsc是一个虚名 倒不会被定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef4c903cc8b9eecbda0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42af8ce104ee22cc4131","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef4c903cc8b9eecbda0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1af6bf89edf9240cd958","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":908,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:25:06.865Z","text":"联盟应该会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af6bf89edf9240cd958","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5560d94cb690b78bc341","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":909,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:26:21.628Z","text":"七哥当年为什么极力的要推行ccp不能代表中国人的说法，就是不想让中国来承担ccp的罪罚。nfsc也不能承担灭爆小组 爱郭贼们的罪罚。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5560d94cb690b78bc341","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q35dc9ec827d3f52d3182","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":910,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:29:07.027Z","text":"我们都清楚nfsc是纯正灭共的，但是法官认为nfsc成了集资诈骗的了。这只是背叛者们的行为和想法，七哥和真战友一个都不会这么认为和这么做","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35dc9ec827d3f52d3182","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa3e68755ac618b2acbd0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":911,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:29:30.674Z","text":"恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3e68755ac618b2acbd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5e9679c15c71d9e1183f","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":912,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-19T09:31:17.890Z","text":"瑞恩哥，动议时，请一定把nfsc和青藤爱郭贼们，区分开来。让法官也相信这一点。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e9679c15c71d9e1183f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd51079aabd8ae629fd23","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":913,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:31:34.979Z","text":"和这个没任何关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e9679c15c71d9e1183f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd51079aabd8ae629fd23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e9679c15c71d9e1183f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q61f1977e4a3a9f2d0d5e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":914,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:31:43.450Z","text":"不要玻璃心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61f1977e4a3a9f2d0d5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0676ec2743189820ed67","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":915,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:32:09.402Z","text":"现在这案子 把什么灭共那套东西 全都割除了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0676ec2743189820ed67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd3c8b4efbdbdc14fa3a8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":916,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:32:14.129Z","text":"讨论这些都没用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3c8b4efbdbdc14fa3a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcf4b5eff8849c469b004","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":917,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:34:22.134Z","text":"你的身份下结论没有任何意义，反倒给对方留下话柄，你就尽量中立客观的把你的合理怀疑表达出来就好，这就能给检方造成压力。如果因为你下结论而被驳回后面再提就没什么作用了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q80d28af5051761fa26fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf4b5eff8849c469b004","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80d28af5051761fa26fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc89cff8ab90e1e2d72f8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":918,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:34:56.257Z","text":"我就准备奔着被驳回的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf4b5eff8849c469b004","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc89cff8ab90e1e2d72f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf4b5eff8849c469b004","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q54000d72bb8d6016fa18","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":919,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:35:02.876Z","text":"只为了留下这个记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54000d72bb8d6016fa18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb91e5227574917ec806e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":920,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:35:26.595Z","text":"因为任何动议都有可能被驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb91e5227574917ec806e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8a301b6a6dce174aa160","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":921,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:35:34.745Z","text":"既然我的目的是留记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a301b6a6dce174aa160","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa6b509b1058574d99f02","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":922,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:35:37.905Z","text":"就不怕被驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6b509b1058574d99f02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7b662b04dac15640e6d8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":923,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:37:28.083Z","text":"你没明白，我的意思是就算全都被驳回，你自己下结论有诬陷捏造的嫌疑，会让你的论据变成垃圾，后面别人再提就没有效果了。如果你是合理怀疑被打回，并不影响别人也提出同样的怀疑。明白了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc89cff8ab90e1e2d72f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b662b04dac15640e6d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc89cff8ab90e1e2d72f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3644cb5a84bfe3009abb","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":924,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:37:58.909Z","text":"就像能灯说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7b662b04dac15640e6d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3644cb5a84bfe3009abb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b662b04dac15640e6d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5068214f558e13dcf42a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":925,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:38:07.667Z","text":"我加上： 我坚定的认为","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5068214f558e13dcf42a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3434d9fac859281d7006","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":926,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:38:30.581Z","text":"我最后再补一句 我不是法律专业 如果有什么不对的地方还请谅解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3434d9fac859281d7006","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe21d1b122564c920f984","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":927,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:38:40.186Z","text":"所以我们需要专业人士出来解答","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe21d1b122564c920f984","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qf21f1c2997a0a647847c","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":928,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:38:46.771Z","text":"只要能表明是你自己的观点就行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf21f1c2997a0a647847c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qff86760b8df4ca9592a0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":929,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:38:49.689Z","text":"所以我respectfully","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff86760b8df4ca9592a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8ed5307abb3105e1e8e8","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":930,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:39:02.612Z","text":"申请针对以上几点的听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ed5307abb3105e1e8e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q18d2c697a351c2a54852","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":931,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T09:39:08.335Z","text":"检方 luc 辩方 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是你唯一依靠的抓人证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ac483f86a4f469b7cba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe28897a36cbdec31f257","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":953,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T09:57:33.668Z","text":"你是投资者，为什么不能问谁来分钱呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q629125764c377679944d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe28897a36cbdec31f257","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q31c01479e835b94e89e4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":954,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:02:19.114Z","text":"只能是债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31c01479e835b94e89e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q295b61f866e9f0f19d10","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":955,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:02:33.969Z","text":"别他妈问了 上听证会吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9777bec6ccb15938f9b8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q295b61f866e9f0f19d10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd3f483a0760533ebbf3b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":956,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:02:43.015Z","text":"老子就申请听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f483a0760533ebbf3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q10dbc452b15c334406da","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":957,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:03:31.812Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 我看懂我肯定也上了 哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10dbc452b15c334406da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb2ebecbf2b3615aefe8b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":958,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:03:39.884Z","text":"但我估计会把法庭炸翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2ebecbf2b3615aefe8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3b5bbe6eaab70141f79a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":959,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:03:47.977Z","text":"可能适得其反","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b5bbe6eaab70141f79a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9f83f578fcd6a5d4a192","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":960,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:04:21.733Z","text":"不让问 没关系 老子怀疑你毒树之果 这下够严重了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57f63c7d307a3752ac63","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f83f578fcd6a5d4a192","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qa2dcbaefea4c8fb4eae2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":961,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:04:40.533Z","text":"老子申请听证会 总是合理的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2dcbaefea4c8fb4eae2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe9fa047bc5185ab48357","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":962,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:06:52.118Z","text":"不让问就开听证会 你们自己互通你我","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9fa047bc5185ab48357","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q849a1978ba07548bb181","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":963,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:09:31.665Z","text":"别激动，你只是一个人，法庭未必听你的要求。重要的是抓住这次机会把该提出来的证据全部提上去，这就赢了八成了，如果法庭能采纳你的要求那就更好了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9fa047bc5185ab48357","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q849a1978ba07548bb181","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9fa047bc5185ab48357","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qc9a39df4af3f4b0e1f2d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":964,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:09:47.684Z","text":"对的 就是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q849a1978ba07548bb181","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a39df4af3f4b0e1f2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q849a1978ba07548bb181","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q46643ef240ce5c4475b4","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":965,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:10:24.590Z","text":"所以，用词一定要注意，保持中立客观，不要有任何个人情绪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9a39df4af3f4b0e1f2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46643ef240ce5c4475b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a39df4af3f4b0e1f2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q11d10e085a30e2e45636","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":966,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:10:31.536Z","text":"确实要注意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46643ef240ce5c4475b4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d10e085a30e2e45636","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46643ef240ce5c4475b4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q896637c8f602e6aa090a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":967,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:12:33.390Z","text":"最后让ai 给把把关","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11d10e085a30e2e45636","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q896637c8f602e6aa090a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d10e085a30e2e45636","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1630d97966f040e8bc0e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":968,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:15:19.455Z","text":"这是肯定啦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1630d97966f040e8bc0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q0da1b87c8e1264c343d0","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":969,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:15:56.125Z","text":"反正你啥都不说 我就猜 我猜一个最严重的结果 具体怎么样 你们自己开听证会解决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0da1b87c8e1264c343d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q8300ef6e720e011aa1aa","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":970,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:16:44.798Z","text":"对，个人猜测不会有多大后果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8300ef6e720e011aa1aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qddfb0673b9369571421b","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":971,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:17:42.836Z","text":"不能说猜，应该在讲完证据和推理后，加上一句所以我认为……可能……","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddfb0673b9369571421b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb4ea17aaf799ded48645","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":972,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:17:45.830Z","text":"螺丝哥 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把所有人拉出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cb3bf138cf2526d12e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd0dad0ba2296d15c0c00","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":975,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:18:08.365Z","text":"听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0dad0ba2296d15c0c00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q6dfa25020cd133f21b45","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":976,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:18:49.701Z","text":"法官会不会觉出来咱们是商量好的，怎么都提同样的要求","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dfa25020cd133f21b45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qe41a60504dc257950fa9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":977,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:20:10.916Z","text":"好大力同志： 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证据呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6dfa25020cd133f21b45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe41a60504dc257950fa9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dfa25020cd133f21b45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd08b676c8ab934e2ff69","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":978,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:21:19.168Z","text":"我现在和之前一个特务保持联系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd08b676c8ab934e2ff69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7973f424ba00c7905549","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":979,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:21:25.627Z","text":"他也知道螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7973f424ba00c7905549","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q564702b37a3fb7916702","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":980,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:21:30.479Z","text":"他也特别佩服","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q564702b37a3fb7916702","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q90933b18e7db0c71af78","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":981,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:21:36.710Z","text":"法律文件第一人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90933b18e7db0c71af78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5f27412d24e3b93bf9f2","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":982,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:21:37.887Z","text":"特务？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f27412d24e3b93bf9f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4718509b1cd845b83647","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":983,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:21:42.736Z","text":"他也觉得说不定真的能翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4718509b1cd845b83647","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q7eb90b671b7db4b6f69d","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":984,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:21:55.055Z","text":"恩 之前在3c","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f27412d24e3b93bf9f2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eb90b671b7db4b6f69d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f27412d24e3b93bf9f2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qaad33c17e42e4e7a50b7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":985,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:22:05.394Z","text":"现在不淌这趟浑水了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad33c17e42e4e7a50b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q38f1febef0e52a668daf","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":986,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:22:09.200Z","text":"看你的运势，希望是挺大","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4718509b1cd845b83647","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38f1febef0e52a668daf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4718509b1cd845b83647","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q1f132f011c2bb912db12","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":987,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:22:36.477Z","text":"原来是灭爆的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaad33c17e42e4e7a50b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f132f011c2bb912db12","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad33c17e42e4e7a50b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb324b8cc1abf28c7f59a","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":988,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:22:46.765Z","text":"不是灭爆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f132f011c2bb912db12","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb324b8cc1abf28c7f59a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f132f011c2bb912db12","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5159e6e51947ee140681","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":989,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:22:48.966Z","text":"就是特务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5159e6e51947ee140681","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qb5bc00bff136d0270c85","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":990,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:22:53.059Z","text":"3c不都是特务吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5bc00bff136d0270c85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q9869e437cd4cbebdb8f9","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":991,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:23:05.360Z","text":"后来估计觉得无聊自己走了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9869e437cd4cbebdb8f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q22b6c85b070668612a82","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":992,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:23:16.123Z","text":"奥，就是原来在七哥身边的人呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b6c85b070668612a82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q3cf0bbc948330fc7f431","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":993,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:23:28.146Z","text":"是的 也不算太身边","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cf0bbc948330fc7f431","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q5fa1a2b1e7073ca56442","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":994,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:23:38.042Z","text":"凡是有脑子的人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fa1a2b1e7073ca56442","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q35feaba9e1cbe76d9e75","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":995,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:23:46.402Z","text":"都知道螺丝哥说不定这次真能搞成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35feaba9e1cbe76d9e75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qd6d3aa520fdb265261a3","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":996,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:24:32.631Z","text":"[屏蔽词] 这两天想案子的事情 睡得很少","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d3aa520fdb265261a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q4e4055a6266a24fb4568","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":997,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-19T10:24:51.245Z","text":"搞吧，还能指望谁？这次要是成功了，那可真是第一次去中心化的革命，从此再也不需要什么狗屁联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e4055a6266a24fb4568","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"q2651de148d3c377e3c6e","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":998,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:25:16.083Z","text":"老子把这个动议写上 也算是老子爆料革命以来学到的东西 也对的起自己了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2651de148d3c377e3c6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qcbf3b680ed444f11aea5","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":999,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:25:41.767Z","text":"说实话 我写了这个动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbf3b680ed444f11aea5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"},{"id":"qecf57e20397691ff2af7","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":1000,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-19T10:25:53.503Z","text":"我就算从此退出爆料江湖 我也觉得自己圆满了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecf57e20397691ff2af7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000015","next_batch_id":"batch-000017"}