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chu***］  就跟你说的 这杆件如何开启的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb87dd6da0d5b4f7f177","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q528ade06005a05b8c5fb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":620,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T10:04:19.358Z","text":"要把这个打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q528ade06005a05b8c5fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q4cb90a4811107baf5e26","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":621,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T10:04:23.341Z","text":"这就是毒树之果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cb90a4811107baf5e26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf4951cb34d4f38749788","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":622,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T10:04:59.449Z","text":"反正我觉得这案子最后可能是上诉赢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4951cb34d4f38749788","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6933ba25ab05a2b323d8","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":623,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-21T11:43:16.349Z","text":"第三方必须追问 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信徒😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56812f83e3c406d07ef8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8d09869248f76865b113","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":629,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T17:03:32.796Z","text":"法轮功那个水星","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d09869248f76865b113","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb1b78db47137160db917","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":630,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T20:09:07.837Z","text":"你深度了解李大师你就知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb2a154519cfe86d1d14","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b78db47137160db917","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb2a154519cfe86d1d14","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q0421c4688cb2e4c7f6b6","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":631,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T20:45:48.551Z","text":"老郭如果按照剧本走 是定格判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0421c4688cb2e4c7f6b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q28fd08e92d00e8b9e7e3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":632,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T20:45:56.573Z","text":"但我们的出现把剧本搅了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28fd08e92d00e8b9e7e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q615e136b791465e18e10","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":633,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T20:52:13.713Z","text":"初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q615e136b791465e18e10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qfc54e09c1868b4f88122","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":634,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T20:52:20.133Z","text":"很多都是中共国安提交的！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc54e09c1868b4f88122","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbe355aa2c1546c6d502e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":635,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T20:52:30.795Z","text":"肯定不都是债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe355aa2c1546c6d502e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qfe6643e5d87da3435c15","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":636,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-21T21:56:53.197Z","text":"五毛的豆豆，卢克接了。最早登记债权人的，就是特务","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe355aa2c1546c6d502e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe6643e5d87da3435c15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe355aa2c1546c6d502e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q097bccac14ebb3cba450","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":637,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-21T21:58:31.868Z","text":"你应该仔细看一下债权人名单，老郭鼓动之前卢克接受的，不多，那些应该是你说的特务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q097bccac14ebb3cba450","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbd422c4d3a7093197e2c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":638,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T22:03:01.842Z","text":"很多匿名","edited":false,"reply_to":"q097bccac14ebb3cba450","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd422c4d3a7093197e2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q097bccac14ebb3cba450","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q9b8bdcce3f405f3dccca","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":639,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T22:03:04.777Z","text":"看不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b8bdcce3f405f3dccca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q00678242f53fd5c61d42","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":640,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T22:06:58.504Z","text":"去看意见虎的证词","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe6643e5d87da3435c15","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00678242f53fd5c61d42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe6643e5d87da3435c15","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q15a7d4e17a7283df2405","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":641,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T22:07:07.436Z","text":"很多初始受害人 就是墙内的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15a7d4e17a7283df2405","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qab752a2be1de81aba850","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":642,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-21T22:12:04.897Z","text":"https://x.com/CharlesZ_1998/status/1945959590912274913","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab752a2be1de81aba850","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa6a38c9d7e269b19b7db","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":643,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-21T22:18:07.432Z","text":"小羊这个[屏蔽词]在直播","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6a38c9d7e269b19b7db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3765b019187e84811d15","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":644,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T23:25:28.779Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  在本案托雷斯禁止提政治 禁止提检方和中共合作 那我他妈作为第三方 要求检方踢除不合格受害人的索赔资格 总他妈可以吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3765b019187e84811d15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7eba10f5ff524ba48a88","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":645,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T23:25:36.386Z","text":"这就绕了一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eba10f5ff524ba48a88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qed36925933db3d6a8903","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":646,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T23:25:41.556Z","text":"我没说你和中共合作","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed36925933db3d6a8903","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q51dee17060d76e525549","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":647,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T23:25:52.732Z","text":"我说你要把你这些受害者的索赔资格理清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51dee17060d76e525549","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa55ef18cc177d3eb756d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":648,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T00:07:07.623Z","text":"👇 这人在说什么？钱本来就不是郭的啊？郭不承认啊。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa55ef18cc177d3eb756d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7aebe02e95bdd2368ad3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":649,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-22T00:13:59.409Z","text":"百分百有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q097bccac14ebb3cba450","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aebe02e95bdd2368ad3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q097bccac14ebb3cba450","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb524e325eb1b35eefd3a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":650,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-22T00:18:53.826Z","text":"检方必须拿出证据振证明没有假证人假证词","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8602e6e4941b5ce76a2c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb524e325eb1b35eefd3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd70a91409877a2593163","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":651,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-22T00:23:14.272Z","text":"肯定的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd70a91409877a2593163","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qfc3bd17baec6922c9d0a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":652,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T00:24:16.497Z","text":"受害者当然有虚假索赔。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8602e6e4941b5ce76a2c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc3bd17baec6922c9d0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa5583099d798474c7f6e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":653,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T00:25:25.167Z","text":"谁都别想拿钱。耗死对方😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8602e6e4941b5ce76a2c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5583099d798474c7f6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf93a1093a7ed89d0f7bb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":654,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T00:26:22.333Z","text":"对。翻案这事已经不用再讨论了。现在要想办法打死那群登记的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7187f685a4533bfc7f6b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf93a1093a7ed89d0f7bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q11fd58edc2af392bd2d6","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":655,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T00:29:51.355Z","text":"意见虎 是谁啊😂 给我科普一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qedccbc7382067ca8d4b3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11fd58edc2af392bd2d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q07da91b230208260707d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":656,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T00:42:29.931Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ 你现在越考虑越复杂了，其实简单一点就行。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07da91b230208260707d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1c56f042b5120e709591","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":657,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T00:45:21.720Z","text":"你的思维方式越直接越有效，因为法官的思维估计就是很直接的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c56f042b5120e709591","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5f605d14312b0d83a776","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":658,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T00:52:24.148Z","text":"因为法官禁止谈论中共","edited":false,"reply_to":"q07da91b230208260707d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f605d14312b0d83a776","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07da91b230208260707d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb66f2d35d1640684d7a7","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":659,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T00:52:26.472Z","text":"所以要复杂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66f2d35d1640684d7a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q136491efb22bc9384fe7","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":660,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T00:55:56.007Z","text":"既然不让谈中共，就不用谈易见虎他们那些人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f605d14312b0d83a776","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q136491efb22bc9384fe7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f605d14312b0d83a776","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q868dd0ed4b6c90e2a181","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":661,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T01:06:37.439Z","text":"这个意见虎 到底是谁啊。不记得了。还有证人？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q136491efb22bc9384fe7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q868dd0ed4b6c90e2a181","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q136491efb22bc9384fe7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q441e852d094aa9b4f47f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":662,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T01:19:00.644Z","text":"咱们都是普通人，连机器人都问不出个答案。专业的让老郭律师去做吧。\n咱们只要把能够看到的漏洞，全部捅向法庭就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q441e852d094aa9b4f47f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd575f296fcc92b91c28b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":663,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T01:20:15.561Z","text":"除了我，新老联盟羊帮质疑帮，他们没有任何人可以做到言论自由！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd575f296fcc92b91c28b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q856fd50a3311ada51902","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":664,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T01:38:53.479Z","text":"我觉得老郭要想无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q136491efb22bc9384fe7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q856fd50a3311ada51902","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q136491efb22bc9384fe7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1790347902df97d2fd35","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":665,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T01:38:58.721Z","text":"必须碰初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1790347902df97d2fd35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q9d90b507a8e5e7876d45","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":666,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T01:40:35.385Z","text":"https://x.com/Percy43508644/status/1810237658746191926","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d90b507a8e5e7876d45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5ef338fddb0e346f542d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":667,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T01:40:43.071Z","text":"这个是 意见虎？？👆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ef338fddb0e346f542d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q44d1b0ac2a127ce76fcb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":668,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T01:41:59.005Z","text":"螺丝哥怀疑初始受害人就是债权人和GTV啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1790347902df97d2fd35","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44d1b0ac2a127ce76fcb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1790347902df97d2fd35","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc05da80e3cf6b1c54ac0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":669,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T01:55:05.318Z","text":"我觉得还有更见不得人的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44d1b0ac2a127ce76fcb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc05da80e3cf6b1c54ac0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44d1b0ac2a127ce76fcb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q50df119bceb2addff54f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":670,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T01:55:09.748Z","text":"就是国安报案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50df119bceb2addff54f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd968166f9e32370be30d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":671,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T01:55:21.186Z","text":"这才是为什么他们这么不想提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd968166f9e32370be30d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb9d0b91e89401ee83f60","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":672,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T01:56:05.336Z","text":"债权人虚假索赔 gtv无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9d0b91e89401ee83f60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q74175354f0e9ea2ce161","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":673,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T02:00:12.668Z","text":"我给他们的受害者 扣一顶虚假索赔的帽子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74175354f0e9ea2ce161","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb7dc09cd9c025f5558ce","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":674,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:11:48.106Z","text":"https://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/1947429498967978298?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7dc09cd9c025f5558ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q22aad52376c52f00675f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":675,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:12:10.474Z","text":"👆没有大根？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22aad52376c52f00675f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qcea8ae6796e219e3dbaf","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":676,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:14:14.179Z","text":"https://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/1947469967420755998?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcea8ae6796e219e3dbaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1c9e1e34a98877735776","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":677,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:15:28.082Z","text":"请愿没收 就是 在4月7号之前 填了法院的 petition 表的咯？？ 这批人默认 七哥非法所得？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c9e1e34a98877735776","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb6e924a82173683aed6a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":678,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T02:15:36.027Z","text":"这个乱码妹是很高层次的灭爆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6e924a82173683aed6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb6e8a391ca6fb8a9a417","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":679,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:16:24.103Z","text":"按照她的这个话。我这样理解对吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ccf90286f19841335ba","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6e8a391ca6fb8a9a417","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q59f09d474c94e03fd68d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":680,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:17:35.361Z","text":"我现在想知道 填了法院petition的 虽然合法。但是有没有别的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f09d474c94e03fd68d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q435880f2105fdbc5a434","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":681,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:29:31.569Z","text":"填了petition 就是同意没收 再赔偿啊，老郭拒绝没收令， 那这一批人 也是 老郭对立面啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q435880f2105fdbc5a434","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qffb27f5c483bfd958b7c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":682,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:30:02.929Z","text":"那这一批人里面 如果有重叠 呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffb27f5c483bfd958b7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q10ef29de2602c4e05fc0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":683,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T02:30:10.768Z","text":"引用CVRA才等于你是受害者，引用853n不等于你是受害者。但是引用853n会显得你对郭没有信心，急着要钱。 检方也许会拿这个要求法官赶快量刑。这是唯一的问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q435880f2105fdbc5a434","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10ef29de2602c4e05fc0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q435880f2105fdbc5a434","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q621f54429e8f1e86adc6","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":684,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T02:30:55.562Z","text":"引用853n不是赔偿，是反对没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q621f54429e8f1e86adc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbdb6dc3976d2b827b6d4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":685,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:39:15.367Z","text":"那所以法院的 petition 其实也不能填","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdb6dc3976d2b827b6d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb6f5ce57aed823fc8a88","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":686,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T02:42:51.445Z","text":"就是说如果你只是为了要钱去填853n的petition，其实对这个案子是有负面影响的，就是检方会拿这个催法官赶快结案。但是这和郭有没有罪也没有关系。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6f5ce57aed823fc8a88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc3f5aa358fc5ae3db682","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":687,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:45:48.840Z","text":"哦 谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6f5ce57aed823fc8a88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3f5aa358fc5ae3db682","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6f5ce57aed823fc8a88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb472b687554f7a0a7fa3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":688,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:47:10.129Z","text":"法院太冲忙 要填这个petition  我觉得不正常，没填","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb472b687554f7a0a7fa3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q676a28b0653af61f7165","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":689,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T02:48:28.741Z","text":"你这里说的是反的啊，是 支持没收令把","edited":false,"reply_to":"q621f54429e8f1e86adc6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q676a28b0653af61f7165","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q621f54429e8f1e86adc6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1a53bff97aba62460675","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":690,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T02:50:30.084Z","text":"853n是反对没收，不是支持没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"q676a28b0653af61f7165","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a53bff97aba62460675","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q676a28b0653af61f7165","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q42dacfd5945689d8b794","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":691,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T02:52:38.963Z","text":"他们这些解读法庭文件的人，都是把人往沟里带的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6e924a82173683aed6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42dacfd5945689d8b794","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6e924a82173683aed6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7fd1aa4e2fe30266ff5d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":692,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T02:53:15.333Z","text":"包括之前那个什么TH,什么oooit，什么的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd1aa4e2fe30266ff5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q0945a6e32d4139925569","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":693,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T03:09:42.277Z","text":"😂等我再看一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a53bff97aba62460675","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0945a6e32d4139925569","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a53bff97aba62460675","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q565da689b5e08cac5ad0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":694,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T03:10:58.722Z","text":"美国特此通知，有意按照美国司法部长的指示处置被没收的财产。根据《联邦刑事诉讼规则》第32.2条和《美国法典》第21卷第853(n)(1)节，任何在本案中并非被告的人，若声称对被没收的财产拥有权益，必须在本公告首次发布之日起60天内（即2025年2月6日）提交附属请愿书。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q565da689b5e08cac5ad0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6ea970b37d65c1bd4969","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":695,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T03:11:44.319Z","text":"哦 是的 你是对的 反对没收的😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ea970b37d65c1bd4969","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q4c07d8c487b512f70b6b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":696,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T03:12:03.307Z","text":"妈的 这个乱码 瞎逼逼 把老子都搞糊涂了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c07d8c487b512f70b6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe51fdc14dc92b7c25ae5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":697,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T03:12:08.246Z","text":"政府没收的是郭的财产，如果你能证明这些财产里有一些是你的,不是郭的，你可以反对政府没收属于你的那部分","edited":false,"reply_to":"q565da689b5e08cac5ad0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe51fdc14dc92b7c25ae5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q565da689b5e08cac5ad0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe0a5c227e4924af9455c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":698,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T03:13:00.830Z","text":"这个乱码就是把CVRA和853n混淆了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a5c227e4924af9455c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc28dda951f14b638202a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":699,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T03:13:43.729Z","text":"CVRA是承认你是郭的受害者，同意没收，要政府赔偿，这个等于你指控被告诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc28dda951f14b638202a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q84c0484c452b4908f3cd","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":700,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T03:13:58.653Z","text":"所以这里 我的问题 解答了，这个疑问 不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c9e1e34a98877735776","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84c0484c452b4908f3cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c9e1e34a98877735776","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbd250c4a5071d4828f84","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":701,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T03:14:04.497Z","text":"853n根本不是这个意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd250c4a5071d4828f84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q38417d45e8680c0c051f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":702,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:11:42.554Z","text":"锤他的初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q466f7c02aeb0cd2f5875","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38417d45e8680c0c051f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf878ef5b5849b479326c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":703,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:11:56.321Z","text":"初始受害人是中共国安提供的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf878ef5b5849b479326c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3690cbf082bd08d1cd73","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":704,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:12:16.256Z","text":"想个办法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3690cbf082bd08d1cd73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2e7910a38e8efc80c648","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":705,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:12:23.478Z","text":"把脏水泼过去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e7910a38e8efc80c648","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa9f4de5462fb2052b35e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":706,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T04:12:59.640Z","text":"你不去找虚假索赔的算帐 我上去说。他们耽误我发财。我要反诉。反诉到他们倾家荡产。不接受和解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9f4de5462fb2052b35e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe94ff289c2849a8a6a44","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":707,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T04:13:46.806Z","text":"你要是在美国，你直接去破产法庭干卢克就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9f4de5462fb2052b35e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94ff289c2849a8a6a44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9f4de5462fb2052b35e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q28a8ca8124fe033368dd","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":708,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:18:11.458Z","text":"肯定有重合！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28a8ca8124fe033368dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8da46ce8b63536e2325b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":709,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:20:43.778Z","text":"初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8da46ce8b63536e2325b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5213193d5bb5f3e6c277","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":710,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:20:46.640Z","text":"就是债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5213193d5bb5f3e6c277","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q868352e13fb308198ca6","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":711,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:20:49.933Z","text":"gtv","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q868352e13fb308198ca6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q79b96f3b2023b2c3d403","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":712,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:21:01.494Z","text":"和那些国安搞的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79b96f3b2023b2c3d403","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q284c731b1aced38a7bc9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":713,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:21:17.904Z","text":"有办法问","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab07602bec2deb72302f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q284c731b1aced38a7bc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf382f8dbf4b7b1e04677","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":714,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:21:27.198Z","text":"可以问的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf382f8dbf4b7b1e04677","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5d1ce4e5c045f594ff56","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":715,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:26:00.600Z","text":"那帮[屏蔽词]什么投资者","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1ce4e5c045f594ff56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q01de15d2c73faa30fed1","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":716,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T04:29:42.770Z","text":"你们要是能够和别人互动，就想办法把话题引导债权人登记是虚假索赔妨碍上去。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01de15d2c73faa30fed1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbd6ed74deb421e773d81","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":717,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T04:34:12.911Z","text":"我他吗跟 sara都没干完。这边更没头绪。你不出来还看不懂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e8e9a1e7ba7b4ec9d72","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd6ed74deb421e773d81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc7fba87ec16ec169f123","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":718,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T04:38:35.599Z","text":"就说 你luc 带着一帮人来瞎几把要债？也走自诉？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe94ff289c2849a8a6a44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7fba87ec16ec169f123","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94ff289c2849a8a6a44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7d45ffa6e86993974744","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":719,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T04:39:26.213Z","text":"我明天查查破产法庭有啥规矩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d45ffa6e86993974744","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdfe4a68017f2408c5ad1","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":720,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:47:18.305Z","text":"对 破产法庭自诉很麻烦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfe4a68017f2408c5ad1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5db55379630560ddb61f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":721,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T04:47:23.289Z","text":"寄信 纸质的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5db55379630560ddb61f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q47870dda3296dc2030e9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":722,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T07:03:41.766Z","text":"人家专业灭爆七年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47870dda3296dc2030e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbb8124dd2b3a5b461ac0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":723,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T07:06:51.463Z","text":"卧槽 我看他跟himan的斗争。我感觉我在中间 被他们两个拉扯。这迷惑性太强","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb8124dd2b3a5b461ac0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q34603c114661eec4d9ce","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":724,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T07:39:47.162Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  法官 检方 为什么一问初始受害人就高潮","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34603c114661eec4d9ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qea83b95c9b17e5c6f99b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":725,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T07:39:58.607Z","text":"不止是因为里面有债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea83b95c9b17e5c6f99b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qde138c8afb195a2dc467","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":726,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T07:40:26.869Z","text":"而是里面有更多见不得人的东西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde138c8afb195a2dc467","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q9cfa380b42b7d00c4fd9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":727,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T07:40:46.570Z","text":"https://x.com/mary21365728/status/1809445316900376719?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfa380b42b7d00c4fd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q38bb7a457c24a65c630a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":728,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:36:16.553Z","text":"受害人有没有索赔，这个要搞清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8602e6e4941b5ce76a2c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38bb7a457c24a65c630a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q378fdf2368ff63bda0ab","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":729,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:37:01.601Z","text":"我质疑 受害人 当受害人 就是为了虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38bb7a457c24a65c630a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q378fdf2368ff63bda0ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38bb7a457c24a65c630a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7af7fd9ac995655bce48","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":730,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:37:05.321Z","text":"抢钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7af7fd9ac995655bce48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8a50a119cc272fd2b3f3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":731,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:37:50.679Z","text":"要审核受害人的正规性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a50a119cc272fd2b3f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7512fca20b40dc199f15","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":732,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:38:12.435Z","text":"是否有被欺骗 被代表的情况出现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7512fca20b40dc199f15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa7765e8d17873370a2b5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":733,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:38:27.817Z","text":"这都是虚假索赔的体现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7765e8d17873370a2b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qca0901c8bd4a498842fb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":734,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:43:00.991Z","text":"有受害人是抓人的前提，怎么算是受害人报假案，这个定义要搞清楚。315后怀疑的是捏造受害人，315前抓人前的受害人到底干了啥，是不是说自己被郭骗了钱，而且虚报金额，如果是这样，这思路就行的通","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0901c8bd4a498842fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdf2d89b6c5c927d188cc","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":735,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:43:24.861Z","text":"不仅是虚报","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca0901c8bd4a498842fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf2d89b6c5c927d188cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0901c8bd4a498842fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6ed07dde15b88cb1fceb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":736,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:43:28.493Z","text":"而且是程序不合法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ed07dde15b88cb1fceb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q654461c0807683e00b56","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":737,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:43:38.930Z","text":"托雷斯不让提这些人是被威胁的情况下报案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q654461c0807683e00b56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q493f75d1a970bb472a6b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":738,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:44:07.123Z","text":"那我就说这些人报案就是为了非法索赔 换个思路 不用政治 而是用虚假索赔思路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q493f75d1a970bb472a6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q96cb58537b162b72c157","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":739,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:44:34.977Z","text":"我的目的就是要戳他们的初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96cb58537b162b72c157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q10a4de58cd3fc81f3a41","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":740,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:44:53.125Z","text":"郭文贵灭共是为了诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10a4de58cd3fc81f3a41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q606e4ffba3072cf62693","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":741,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:44:57.061Z","text":"没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q606e4ffba3072cf62693","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6819a6ab99da8049b0fa","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":742,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:45:00.624Z","text":"易建虎啥情况，后来去当受害者了还是债权人了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6819a6ab99da8049b0fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd0df331840fa6d5b868c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":743,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:45:04.408Z","text":"你们报案是为了虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0df331840fa6d5b868c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd1d4ab2b5ee74e79e36e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":744,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:45:09.451Z","text":"辩方证人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6819a6ab99da8049b0fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1d4ab2b5ee74e79e36e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6819a6ab99da8049b0fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q99be35a4125cf7f8a12d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":745,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:45:58.775Z","text":"这个我知道，他前后矛盾是指啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1d4ab2b5ee74e79e36e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99be35a4125cf7f8a12d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1d4ab2b5ee74e79e36e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1276df116a00c470cb1f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":746,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:46:14.676Z","text":"他一开始不是检方那个证人？虽然是被逼的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99be35a4125cf7f8a12d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1276df116a00c470cb1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99be35a4125cf7f8a12d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa3b73a1043d8dd001402","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":747,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:46:32.938Z","text":"我就说 他一开始 就是虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3b73a1043d8dd001402","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q88eebeee0395688fc52a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":748,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:46:39.079Z","text":"无论是被骗的 还是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88eebeee0395688fc52a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8995303099bb1396ecd9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":749,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:46:41.802Z","text":"跟我债权人一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8995303099bb1396ecd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qba2a8fc3584a8e5e9119","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":750,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:47:11.927Z","text":"所以 我给所有报案的泼脏水 你们 报案就是为了虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba2a8fc3584a8e5e9119","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q94df5c171571f10e2888","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":751,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:47:30.994Z","text":"你这虚假指的不是金额？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa3b73a1043d8dd001402","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94df5c171571f10e2888","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3b73a1043d8dd001402","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe7960ea56dfc971f922d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":752,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:47:34.114Z","text":"让检方 辩方 好好查查 初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7960ea56dfc971f922d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q364a225e27005f78f62a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":753,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:48:06.245Z","text":"你没有按照自己意愿报案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q94df5c171571f10e2888","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q364a225e27005f78f62a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94df5c171571f10e2888","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3496fced03e9aa35dd99","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":754,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:48:09.164Z","text":"也是虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3496fced03e9aa35dd99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd6f87cb8125119a196e0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":755,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:48:25.094Z","text":"这个问问ai吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q364a225e27005f78f62a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6f87cb8125119a196e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q364a225e27005f78f62a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q42f1264e761ca7ab1f88","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":756,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:48:26.370Z","text":"朱贝贝 螺丝哥 不都是被盖尔骗去虚假索赔的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42f1264e761ca7ab1f88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8742126b1df0f51b5c09","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":757,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:48:45.733Z","text":"我问了 ai说我这个动议还挺有说服力的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6f87cb8125119a196e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8742126b1df0f51b5c09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6f87cb8125119a196e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qccd2e83019c3a5ddb5ee","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":758,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:48:57.224Z","text":"那就好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccd2e83019c3a5ddb5ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q55d18d20334490812bb0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":759,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:49:09.917Z","text":"盖尔这个猪队友","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55d18d20334490812bb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf53de0b7a0e3abeb7f8a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":760,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:50:19.808Z","text":"你这么说了，那我们该怎么说才能把luc扯进来呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf53de0b7a0e3abeb7f8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qabb0c1b8922df57a1147","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":761,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:50:43.420Z","text":"尤其是那些报案抓人的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabb0c1b8922df57a1147","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe9da14aa37c580e18676","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":762,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:50:49.130Z","text":"总不能都一致吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9da14aa37c580e18676","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2fbbeb3ec1a38ca2ed5f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":763,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:51:02.749Z","text":"我这个动议比较复杂 你们可以就先打luc","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf53de0b7a0e3abeb7f8a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fbbeb3ec1a38ca2ed5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf53de0b7a0e3abeb7f8a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qcc3b045009c27a9276a1","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":764,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:51:14.911Z","text":"我这个动议得后面上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc3b045009c27a9276a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q51013fa16b350eb2fe4d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":765,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:51:25.480Z","text":"luc最好打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51013fa16b350eb2fe4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q199ab09e11feda9107dc","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":766,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:51:34.492Z","text":"那就第一批集火luc，盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q199ab09e11feda9107dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q10cc4fd779e793f0ad60","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":767,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:51:36.968Z","text":"用干扰司法 虚假索赔 至少可以打掉90%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10cc4fd779e793f0ad60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa5353046196d051c0837","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":768,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:51:39.830Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q199ab09e11feda9107dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5353046196d051c0837","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q199ab09e11feda9107dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb80b6efae7ae361f5c27","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":769,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:51:47.986Z","text":"我这个动议要留后手了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb80b6efae7ae361f5c27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa9e9e3580478199f7a19","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":770,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:52:34.406Z","text":"嗯，等打差不多了，检方肯定会拿初始受害人说事，这会你这个就可以提了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb80b6efae7ae361f5c27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9e9e3580478199f7a19","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb80b6efae7ae361f5c27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q764aec1c8a271ca49008","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":771,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:52:43.536Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9e9e3580478199f7a19","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q764aec1c8a271ca49008","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9e9e3580478199f7a19","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q364341cf4419aede3283","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":772,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:52:56.294Z","text":"我这个动议 检方肯定会反驳 法官估计不会支持","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q364341cf4419aede3283","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q39a41142a0adc48025ed","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":773,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:53:02.793Z","text":"但是可以把脏水泼给受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39a41142a0adc48025ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qfc469a966e0ea0a8d068","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":774,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:53:15.767Z","text":"让辩方律师抓住初始受害者程序不正义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc469a966e0ea0a8d068","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qabd202f6ef64df39b00b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":775,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:53:25.063Z","text":"不让说中共迫害没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabd202f6ef64df39b00b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q64a37e16d7e85815c848","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":776,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:53:42.242Z","text":"我们换个字眼 说说 虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64a37e16d7e85815c848","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf1873463dc58372af94c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":777,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:53:44.716Z","text":"那会你就是第三方身份了，还能和辩方律师沟通吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1873463dc58372af94c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q219f9399ea3d3d923a12","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":778,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:54:01.131Z","text":"当然可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1873463dc58372af94c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q219f9399ea3d3d923a12","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1873463dc58372af94c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8e11c3a6064389cfe9c8","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":779,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:54:06.269Z","text":"只有受害者不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e11c3a6064389cfe9c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf10c3449caeca717b769","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":780,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T08:54:23.254Z","text":"最好搞清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf10c3449caeca717b769","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa434ed0ac21b1e818a89","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":781,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:54:33.854Z","text":"我不联系律师也无所谓了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa434ed0ac21b1e818a89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qeffe3d0728f77d3dba6f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":782,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:54:40.967Z","text":"我只要动议发出去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeffe3d0728f77d3dba6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdc8afd555c4d515efba7","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":783,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:54:45.291Z","text":"就成功了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc8afd555c4d515efba7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5c399f6eee7e2e9341cb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":784,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T08:56:34.127Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 你跟盖尔要取消的合同 就是被盖尔骗用来受害者权力法案的那个吧？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c399f6eee7e2e9341cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q4b4b367b527f27a86316","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":785,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:04:05.210Z","text":"是吧，我12月签的，应该是第一批那三千多里头的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c399f6eee7e2e9341cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b4b367b527f27a86316","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c399f6eee7e2e9341cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdd87c5f553e75a95dcff","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":786,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:04:15.774Z","text":"和朱贝贝也是同一个？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd87c5f553e75a95dcff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q19ce2583810b9281583a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":787,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:04:43.146Z","text":"盖尔就一个吧，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19ce2583810b9281583a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q0c35fc1a125bc3d569c4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":788,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:04:55.918Z","text":"只不过分了几批","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c35fc1a125bc3d569c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qda27d40140a5b5c0373c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":789,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:05:06.510Z","text":"我的意思是 朱贝贝上庭闹事的 也是针对一样的东西？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda27d40140a5b5c0373c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q56dd59e6c7e1855389d1","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":790,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:05:45.918Z","text":"这不就说明 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和螺丝哥的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bbc981764056867b071","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qeda0461b0a63c233ea13","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":794,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:06:30.195Z","text":"如果你的动议先上 我之后可以再饮用你的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeda0461b0a63c233ea13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q9b50e4bcb2b034535ad5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":795,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:06:40.574Z","text":"虚假索赔充斥在本案的各个角色里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b50e4bcb2b034535ad5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb7c7ca14b4bcacad2209","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":796,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:07:04.138Z","text":"所以各方必须认定 哪些受害者 债权人 有资格赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7c7ca14b4bcacad2209","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qff4bf52930af1959cb91","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":797,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:07:14.989Z","text":"因为虚假索赔这个行为模式","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff4bf52930af1959cb91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf8b4ac1bac7df035b7f9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":798,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:07:20.517Z","text":"充斥着整个案件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8b4ac1bac7df035b7f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd81b84ae19185dafe26a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":799,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:07:48.388Z","text":"如果你的初始受害人 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