{"id":"batch-000017","number":17,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-07-19T10:26:27.841Z","date_end":"2025-07-23T02:07:14.267Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 017 (Jul 19, 2025 – Jul 23, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions focused on legal developments following Guo's prosecution, bankruptcy proceedings, and claims by purported victims and creditors. Participants examined the prosecution's evidentiary chain and procedural validity, with some invoking the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine to challenge initial victim veracity and propose third-party motions against fraudulent claims. Others urged caution regarding court admissibility. 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我不知道咋回事 但有关虚假索赔的纠纷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf40e0da5dd39be9547a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qfc39e77487417d2f5970","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":808,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:11:41.587Z","text":"盖尔这个虚假在哪？不是郭受害人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc39e77487417d2f5970","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3efe98d7c18ab36caebc","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":809,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:12:01.607Z","text":"一开始 说什么要告司法部","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc39e77487417d2f5970","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3efe98d7c18ab36caebc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc39e77487417d2f5970","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q807fcd4413b0faddf2ad","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":810,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:12:07.014Z","text":"结果当了受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q807fcd4413b0faddf2ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdb2a8d049a95fe718774","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":811,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:12:12.273Z","text":"当受害人不就是为了要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb2a8d049a95fe718774","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q79f97c1b015c979228a5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":812,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:12:23.856Z","text":"这不就是索赔欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79f97c1b015c979228a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q11ea05001cb857dddb46","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":813,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:12:25.794Z","text":"虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11ea05001cb857dddb46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1277ea9b850ac5da42ac","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":814,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:12:45.428Z","text":"盖尔这个可以要求检方公布或者向第三方提供受害者名单","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1277ea9b850ac5da42ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8c5d3dda0a982589bccc","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":815,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:13:06.838Z","text":"受害者名单是打死都不会提供的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1277ea9b850ac5da42ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c5d3dda0a982589bccc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1277ea9b850ac5da42ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q35cb0a939caf4c47ecb2","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":816,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:13:11.399Z","text":"那是检方的遮羞布","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35cb0a939caf4c47ecb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7b2b1cb240c19fd9a636","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":817,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:14:37.147Z","text":"那盖尔还有啥可以打的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c5d3dda0a982589bccc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b2b1cb240c19fd9a636","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c5d3dda0a982589bccc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd9cba5bd09ffa7545984","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":818,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:14:53.122Z","text":"问螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9cba5bd09ffa7545984","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q82fca2a97e68cea3c46d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":819,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:15:00.934Z","text":"和农场共谋欺诈？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82fca2a97e68cea3c46d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe1db76dcc4bdea3d4409","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":820,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:15:17.821Z","text":"就是盖尔那几千人受害者都作废","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1db76dcc4bdea3d4409","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6e1a560d799e70027cef","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":821,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T09:17:01.765Z","text":"嗯，打掉这部分受害人","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和后来盖尔那个 肯定是可以打的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f69928cbbfd367c584e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc217287abdf211131693","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":823,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:23:05.411Z","text":"但如果想翻案还不够","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc217287abdf211131693","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1b4127ae1e00372630b8","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":824,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T09:23:14.100Z","text":"必须得打他的原始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b4127ae1e00372630b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdca46b2129a8dd94cc27","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":825,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T09:34:27.538Z","text":"是。盖尔涉嫌共谋，。并且盖尔也确实欺诈了客户。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82fca2a97e68cea3c46d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdca46b2129a8dd94cc27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82fca2a97e68cea3c46d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qda723bcedf9d0acc8505","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":826,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T11:09:52.339Z","text":"乱码说债权人和喜交所拿钱都是合法的。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda723bcedf9d0acc8505","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qedac5ebc28f0765294be","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":827,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T11:17:48.339Z","text":"朱贝贝那个完全是胡闹","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7bbc981764056867b071","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedac5ebc28f0765294be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bbc981764056867b071","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd7c1339d7f625954f011","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":828,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T11:52:35.449Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1947623227150201180","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7c1339d7f625954f011","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1caebcb0a315e986cadd","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":829,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T12:09:27.455Z","text":"哈哈，我身边的那个人就是这么说的：郭文贵打着反共的名义骗财骗色。\n所以检方的这种逻辑很有迷惑性。很多人用低俗的思维 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来看待文贵的拯救人类的爱心。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10a4de58cd3fc81f3a41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1caebcb0a315e986cadd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10a4de58cd3fc81f3a41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2bc34a29129a5e2a4399","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":830,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T12:33:16.938Z","text":"前面你讲虎子哥的前后逻辑我清楚了。\n我相信虎子哥也是灭爆小组的安排。当时他参加了几次现场抗议直播，我这个吃瓜群众也是被打过鸡血的。直播时他带了口罩、遮住了脸。当时中原佛手还假惺惺地说要保护好证人呢。\n他被安排当辩方证人是什么目的？感觉灭爆小组太会搞了，把我们这些吃瓜群众当猴耍。当时我还真觉得自己胜券在握、文贵随时都会当庭释放，直到他被陪审团判九项罪名。\n但是你突然说盖尔是猪队友，我不太理解。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55d18d20334490812bb0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bc34a29129a5e2a4399","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55d18d20334490812bb0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qec36ac0d88ed207ecc41","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":831,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T12:41:15.177Z","text":"的确，我们可以拿虎子哥的证词作为例子、进行举一反三，合理怀疑初始证人都是虚假报案，无论是在被威胁还是在贪念驱动。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8742126b1df0f51b5c09","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec36ac0d88ed207ecc41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8742126b1df0f51b5c09","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3f10cc95e4014a4ee33c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":832,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T12:42:30.411Z","text":"法庭不考虑政治因素，只考虑经济因素，虎子哥和朱贝贝都是胡闹","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec36ac0d88ed207ecc41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f10cc95e4014a4ee33c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec36ac0d88ed207ecc41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q40f8e641f5e81a0b1bbe","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":833,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T12:42:53.931Z","text":"朱贝贝盯着王艳平是特务也是胡闹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40f8e641f5e81a0b1bbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2f37b2a01d2702401466","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":834,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T12:43:49.842Z","text":"在这个案子结束以后，如果国会调查，那时候会提到政治因素","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f37b2a01d2702401466","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa409952b163fd705b592","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":835,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T12:44:01.101Z","text":"可恨那个Nick矮锉子，当时举着一个大笔记本，在法庭外进行直播，说它那个笔记本将来值百万。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa409952b163fd705b592","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q909368c376c659365a97","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":836,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T12:44:03.682Z","text":"现在都是经济因素，就是钱钱钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q909368c376c659365a97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q87991a5929061713fd89","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":837,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T12:47:18.479Z","text":"哦。所以它们安排虎子哥当证人也是一种胡闹。真坏！即使是辩方证人也是来搅局的。\n俺突然出了一身冷汗😓😆😀😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q909368c376c659365a97","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87991a5929061713fd89","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q909368c376c659365a97","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q216c990de19e0e221c34","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":838,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T13:09:17.098Z","text":"是不是搅局不知道，可能没什么坏处？但是从法律角度讲，也没什么好处？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87991a5929061713fd89","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q216c990de19e0e221c34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87991a5929061713fd89","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbd9a8b24435a4c93fee0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":839,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T13:15:15.703Z","text":"没收请愿填表的，首先承认被郭骗，但要求钱没收后还能还给自己，我记得好像是这样子吧，说白了就是想拿钱走人，爱谁谁不玩了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c9e1e34a98877735776","repl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是的 所有投资的 只剩下5%  按比例算呗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa424f3165a42376eadb8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73fa174d684760f2ceba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc6e439f610ee68ea011f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":863,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T16:34:19.175Z","text":"https://x.com/dff386090/status/1947688674822656314?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6e439f610ee68ea011f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q81698948b9e01400f769","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":864,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T16:35:07.754Z","text":"这群骗子 再不送进去  傻子真的就不够割了 🥲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81698948b9e01400f769","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc9e646d4f668f8e75368","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":865,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T16:35:53.038Z","text":"这个婆仔也不是什么好玩意儿。它应该是小羊帮或者坐禅帮的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9e646d4f668f8e75368","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1ecea0eee7d9f4623af8","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":866,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T16:37:24.091Z","text":"引用《美国法典》第21编第853(n)条是否意味着承认被告有罪？\n\n不，引用或依据《21 U.S.C. § 853(n)》（即美国联邦刑事财产没收法的一部分） 并不意味着你承认被告做错了什么。\n\n原因如下：\n\n第853(n)条 是专门允许第三方（如配偶、生意伙伴、抵押权人等）在政府试图通过刑事没收来没收某项财产时，主张自己对该财产拥有合法权益的条款。该条款的目的是保护无辜的财产所有人或其他合法权利人。\n\n当你依据 § 853(n) 提交申请时，你实际上是在说：\n\n> “我对这项财产拥有合法权益，即使被告被定罪或认罪，政府也无权没收它。”\n\n\n\n你并未就被告是否有罪发表任何意见。事实上，该法条正是为在法院已经初步认定某项财产应被没收之后，让第三方主张权利而设立的。\n\n\n---\n\n重点总结：\n\n853(n)申请通常是在法院作出初步没收裁定之后提出的；\n\n第三方是在说：“这不是（完全）属于被告的财产，或者我在犯罪发生前就已经拥有权益”；\n\n法院不会将提交853(n)申请解读为第三方或被告的认罪行为。\n\n\n\n---\n\n结论：\n\n引用或依据《21 U.S.C. § 853(n)》是为了保护你对某项财产的合法权益，它并不代表你承认任何过错，也不代表被告有罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ecea0eee7d9f4623af8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb7ad67d3d681d186365c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":867,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T16:39:22.952Z","text":"坐禅都把我拉黑了，婆仔还能引用他的东西。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7ad67d3d681d186365c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc0b9b984794c0864bbc4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":868,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T16:45:23.225Z","text":"引用《犯罪受害者权利法》（CVRA） 通常表示你认为自己因被告的行为而受到伤害。\n\n\n具体含义如下：\n\n《CVRA》（《美国法典》第18编第3771条）赋予被认为是**“犯罪受害者”**的人一系列权利。法律对“犯罪受害者”的定义是：\n\n> “因联邦犯罪的实施而直接且实际受到伤害的人。”\n\n\n\n因此，如果你在案件中引用或援引CVRA，你就是在主张（而不是证明）：\n\n> “我因被告被指控的犯罪行为而直接受到伤害。”\n\n\n\n你不需要先证明被告有罪。你只需有合理的理由认为自己受到了该犯罪行为的影响。\n\n\n\n---\n\n一个重要的区别：\n\n你是在说：“我认为自己因被告涉嫌的行为而受到伤害。”\n\n你并不是在说：“被告有罪。”——这是由法院或陪审团来决定的。\n\n\n\n---\n\n总结：\n\n是的，引用CVRA通常意味着你相信自己因被告的涉嫌行为受到了伤害，但这不是法律上的定罪，也不表示你断定被告有罪。你只是依据法律主张你作为潜在受害者的权利，有资格在诉讼过程中发表意见、获得通知和请求保护。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0b9b984794c0864bbc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6c19bed1d8da0f9ef5bb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":869,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T16:50:24.270Z","text":"是的，先他妈得知道联盟是骗子，才能有潜力看懂这个局 而不是一定能看懂 😁 所以骂他们都是智障，已经是对他们的帮助了，而自尊心让他们永远不认可自己智障 所以永远不会明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b5058128a255ea0ae11","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c19bed1d8da0f9ef5bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qabaac64ea80678ae7dd4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":870,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T16:51:59.144Z","text":"所以放弃吧，让花成花，树成树，智障做 智障","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabaac64ea80678ae7dd4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q85943812bc183a41aef5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":871,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T16:53:19.609Z","text":"就像瑞哥之前说的 强势文化，这就是达尔文进化论  丛林法则，他们必须被淘汰了成为 万骨枯， 你螺丝哥 才能一将功成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85943812bc183a41aef5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd8f807cd9def2069c89a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":872,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T17:02:44.172Z","text":"我投资了GTV, 能不能申请 853n 呢？但是GTV 没罪啊，我的GTV投资的钱怎么办？我觉得最好的办法就是等文贵出来。对吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ecea0eee7d9f4623af8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8f807cd9def2069c89a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ecea0eee7d9f4623af8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q16cea8a85658e6dbfbc4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":873,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:25:38.964Z","text":"你可以去sec领钱啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8f807cd9def2069c89a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16cea8a85658e6dbfbc4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8f807cd9def2069c89a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc562430feade79c43164","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":874,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T17:27:00.750Z","text":"我不是那一批的，晚一点的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16cea8a85658e6dbfbc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc562430feade79c43164","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16cea8a85658e6dbfbc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q9608d9fa82c901ebe2b5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":875,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:27:36.434Z","text":"他以为gtv就都在sec那","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9608d9fa82c901ebe2b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q62ae461a02914a4a6ace","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":876,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:28:07.842Z","text":"这投资是给联盟用了还是在哪里放着在？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8f807cd9def2069c89a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62ae461a02914a4a6ace","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8f807cd9def2069c89a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q14d6b7b6aed3b18aba1b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":877,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:29:40.647Z","text":"晚一点的什么意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc562430feade79c43164","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d6b7b6aed3b18aba1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc562430feade79c43164","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3a1418c45e32b30ad859","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":878,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:29:52.667Z","text":"你直接说 你的项目是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a1418c45e32b30ad859","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2627e4380fd928516bea","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":879,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:30:06.476Z","text":"农场借贷 还是 gclub 卡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2627e4380fd928516bea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qac1b98753b1412b1edee","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":880,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:30:19.793Z","text":"还是gcoin","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac1b98753b1412b1edee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1729e3fe8cdaf49e4032","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":881,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T17:30:23.517Z","text":"说实话，文贵不出来，我对这笔钱不是太在意，只有一万美金。在315之后还100%相信长岛联盟，又买了A10 一万美金。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1729e3fe8cdaf49e4032","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q42230206e7cf9713e4b6","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":882,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T17:30:52.008Z","text":"应该是农场借贷","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a1418c45e32b30ad859","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42230206e7cf9713e4b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a1418c45e32b30ad859","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q450b8bdae3b9467f7528","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":883,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:31:18.080Z","text":"那sec 那没有 我也有 人家不认 不属于gtv","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42230206e7cf9713e4b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q450b8bdae3b9467f7528","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42230206e7cf9713e4b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q350e806d56a8502a9a9c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":884,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:32:24.570Z","text":"是不是意味着钱被长岛带走了？这笔钱有着落吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1729e3fe8cdaf49e4032","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q350e806d56a8502a9a9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1729e3fe8cdaf49e4032","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q04ba43e69cf6610acc04","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":885,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:33:21.554Z","text":"我也是，青藤他们出来时，那时候站出来挺长岛。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1729e3fe8cdaf49e4032","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04ba43e69cf6610acc04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1729e3fe8cdaf49e4032","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q4be871c6fd17730dcbe5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":886,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T17:33:38.231Z","text":"我还买了喜币，我希望文贵出来后喜币巿场能回归正常。我所有的投资能有好的回报。我想羸！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4be871c6fd17730dcbe5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q835e6fa9943a8431f02d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":887,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T17:35:10.319Z","text":"我是通过新西兰雷蒙的农场买的。我一直都懒得过问。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q350e806d56a8502a9a9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q835e6fa9943a8431f02d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q350e806d56a8502a9a9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa04fbd7301272c79c9a0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":888,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:38:01.032Z","text":"已经进去的人，抓她干嘛？表面上她想以王为突破口救七哥，王若间谍身份属实，则其认罪和作证就不能牵连七哥。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qefef2c2b0a3775745e46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa04fbd7301272c79c9a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefef2c2b0a3775745e46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3f72ff0657f1e5a0ef0d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":889,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:38:29.143Z","text":"看来跟我一样，完全不知道钱的下落。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q835e6fa9943a8431f02d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f72ff0657f1e5a0ef0d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q835e6fa9943a8431f02d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q29d86214ac803192fd48","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":890,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:39:07.697Z","text":"找农场汇款时的负责人，应该可以查询得到吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29d86214ac803192fd48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdf65f69f3f25c9e89538","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":891,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-22T17:39:21.407Z","text":"估计现在也都1潜水了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf65f69f3f25c9e89538","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc04e88f3de3ab8ab128b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":892,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T17:46:57.951Z","text":"现在没心思问这些哈。文贵出来一切都好办。文贵不出来，给我金山银山又怎么样呢？这个世界如果没有了公平正义和良知，我们的后代还会活得比我们更好吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf65f69f3f25c9e89538","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc04e88f3de3ab8ab128b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf65f69f3f25c9e89538","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5d796b514b9001270be0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":893,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:50:11.258Z","text":"对哦，每个项目投资人基本重叠，GTV 无罪 别的也无罪啊 👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e4657aa8c1ecbe7a51b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d796b514b9001270be0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qce2c737d21a8eb91807f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":894,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T17:51:29.726Z","text":"现在4个抓手了 ？ ：1，债权人虚假索赔，2，受害人债权人重叠，3 盖尔欺诈代理，4 GTV无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce2c737d21a8eb91807f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q601d23b0736350ae9d63","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":895,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:01:56.877Z","text":"是 然后还可以把这四个合起来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce2c737d21a8eb91807f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q601d23b0736350ae9d63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce2c737d21a8eb91807f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6160f0bfae3fa6f90475","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":896,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:02:11.243Z","text":"就是： 登记就是为了虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6160f0bfae3fa6f90475","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q96f416a59f96237d69fb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":897,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:02:17.703Z","text":"登记就是虚假代表登记","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96f416a59f96237d69fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf312c18c33cb35633571","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":898,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:02:32.688Z","text":"因为我们发现了这个行为模式","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf312c18c33cb35633571","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8d736231901153c17797","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":899,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:03:12.383Z","text":"根据债权人取消的情况 盖尔取消的情况 根据托雷斯妨碍司法宣判 和yijianhu初始受害人取消的情况 我们怀疑 有大量的虚假登记 虚假索赔 混在受害人 混在债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d736231901153c17797","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qcf1335c2a1dc2172aa6f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":900,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:03:50.170Z","text":"所以要检方和辩方 和luc合作 严查所有债权人和受害者 筛选出合格索赔人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf1335c2a1dc2172aa6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7aac0460ea08b4225f3d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":901,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T18:04:55.457Z","text":"还要追加  虚假索赔人的 罪行或赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aac0460ea08b4225f3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q129c8c54bb59fc4f0fef","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":902,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:05:08.631Z","text":"对 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一张图片","edited":true,"reply_to":"q601d23b0736350ae9d63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77994f492f5bbd369a58","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q601d23b0736350ae9d63","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1acd87e37ea4f5ae62c5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":905,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:06:48.206Z","text":"到时候你们先上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77994f492f5bbd369a58","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1acd87e37ea4f5ae62c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77994f492f5bbd369a58","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2135851acb9c2898e364","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":906,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:06:53.212Z","text":"打luc 打盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2135851acb9c2898e364","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd352132f14a006904e3a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":907,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:07:00.945Z","text":"你们动议上去后 我引用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd352132f14a006904e3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qcc52378bc5664837f7fe","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":908,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:07:29.807Z","text":"他们这么保护初始受害人 我就找打废他们的初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc52378bc5664837f7fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc391f1d94df7a349765e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":909,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T18:10:29.498Z","text":"一键呼 这个我还没看 等先研究下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc391f1d94df7a349765e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3470ea7418b6fd1a98f0","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":910,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:11:12.381Z","text":"https://youtu.be/ZHhIEW1L9t4?si=PyvibKrDeOxw1sld","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3470ea7418b6fd1a98f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q26381d62472d9e443e3f","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":911,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T18:11:16.314Z","text":"我不知道我能以什么身份上。我投资的GTV是无罪的。\n我看我只能当吃瓜群众。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1acd87e37ea4f5ae62c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26381d62472d9e443e3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1acd87e37ea4f5ae62c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5dfea8ec9d281c2204f2","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":912,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:11:33.765Z","text":"你有gclub 喜交所账号吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26381d62472d9e443e3f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dfea8ec9d281c2204f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26381d62472d9e443e3f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd6a94410dbbfacce0063","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":913,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T18:11:48.846Z","text":"没有，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6a94410dbbfacce0063","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1c4f2539722c0fa01803","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":914,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:11:50.505Z","text":"你gtv的钱被扣了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c4f2539722c0fa01803","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q863ee49a149c2de53f53","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":915,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T18:11:55.876Z","text":"如果被扣应该可以说的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q863ee49a149c2de53f53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3ec121be919614c34ef4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":916,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T18:13:13.294Z","text":"没有。我是后来在SEC之后补进去的，是通过雷蒙的农场补的三年合同借贷","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c4f2539722c0fa01803","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ec121be919614c34ef4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c4f2539722c0fa01803","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc42663d100f541c33ac2","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":917,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T18:13:58.842Z","text":"看来我只能当拉拉队成员","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc42663d100f541c33ac2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q44f80a5e99af1389c996","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":918,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T18:14:23.362Z","text":"那你是长岛的受害人  你要说 他们以 老郭的名义欺诈你","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ec121be919614c34ef4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44f80a5e99af1389c996","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ec121be919614c34ef4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7b3847c861b6d52b4484","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":919,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T18:15:02.078Z","text":"你上去可以把共谋变成主谋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b3847c861b6d52b4484","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q237a2a19f7991799aa99","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":920,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T18:15:08.177Z","text":"这样也许有点谱儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44f80a5e99af1389c996","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q237a2a19f7991799aa99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44f80a5e99af1389c996","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q81b9c618d4e292eb0e10","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":921,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T18:16:09.820Z","text":"这应该是另一种打法了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81b9c618d4e292eb0e10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf3ad2ba0988f3287d432","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":922,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T18:16:51.496Z","text":"这是根据你自身情况去打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3ad2ba0988f3287d432","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2cb034d97df9d60ff6a5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":923,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T18:17:10.606Z","text":"真实的 有说服力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cb034d97df9d60ff6a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb6586a7fa87e92e54daa","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":924,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T18:27:57.551Z","text":"他们还要抢喜交所的钱呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26381d62472d9e443e3f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6586a7fa87e92e54daa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26381d62472d9e443e3f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6fa535aa5ccc464dc226","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":925,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T19:57:56.030Z","text":"关键是朱贝贝没有任何证据证明王是特务。所以她说这个没用。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa04fbd7301272c79c9a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fa535aa5ccc464dc226","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa04fbd7301272c79c9a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6a18727eb86a72c1593d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":926,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T20:00:16.412Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  我觉得就是要猛戳他们的初始受害人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a18727eb86a72c1593d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe2ee969c5db7ac51cc48","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":927,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T20:00:30.049Z","text":"先把luc盖尔在没收程序中打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2ee969c5db7ac51cc48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7d3922de1dba1113cd86","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":928,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T20:00:34.601Z","text":"然后延伸到初始受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d3922de1dba1113cd86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3e0a8e6fd1c85a56100c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":929,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T20:00:39.367Z","text":"他们越怕 我们越打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e0a8e6fd1c85a56100c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q0e9875059fc068dcce83","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":930,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T20:57:07.750Z","text":"晚一些的，是不是变成农场借贷了啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc562430feade79c43164","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e9875059fc068dcce83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc562430feade79c43164","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qcae78d7d227e87508156","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":931,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T21:05:52.443Z","text":"是的。是2022年1月搞得农场借贷，好像也算GTV项目吧。通过跟李小新联系搞的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e9875059fc068dcce83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcae78d7d227e87508156","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e9875059fc068dcce83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q9ba7b66586ff4be4195e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":932,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T21:07:49.802Z","text":"最初受害人应该就是最早登记的债权人和被枪顶着的报案人吧，这两种人怎么虚假索赔，得有证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09eb7494f151c421ff96","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ba7b66586ff4be4195e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qdc27348916a6f04835b2","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":933,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T21:09:22.986Z","text":"当时说的要让更多人参与进gtv，刚开始七哥让找九指妖，后来是通过农场借贷","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcae78d7d227e87508156","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc27348916a6f04835b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcae78d7d227e87508156","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q914737c10c0383a8b9dc","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":934,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T21:10:39.749Z","text":"借贷那会是不是九指妖已经暴雷了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q914737c10c0383a8b9dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb2166b18b0b93e1de087","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":935,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T21:13:19.292Z","text":"九指妖是暴雷了，但是我还继续相信其他人啊？九指妖只是一个老鼠屎，99.99%的战友还是好人呀。这就是我当时的逻辑。😀","edited":false,"reply_to":"q914737c10c0383a8b9dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2166b18b0b93e1de087","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q914737c10c0383a8b9dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd0841a03cc9088e580f6","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":936,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:14:47.184Z","text":"由债权人 盖尔 yijianhu 去污染他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ba7b66586ff4be4195e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0841a03cc9088e580f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ba7b66586ff4be4195e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qeb2d2189c451db2aab7e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":937,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:16:29.726Z","text":"我发现行为模式。就是虚假陈述 虚假索赔 充斥着所有角色","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb2d2189c451db2aab7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qeea1dd1bebead034b7c7","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":938,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:16:38.122Z","text":"要求法庭介入严查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeea1dd1bebead034b7c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2171e6c18d134e84af48","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":939,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T21:17:17.802Z","text":"易建虎可以污染被枪顶着头的，最早的债权人呢？这个只有luc清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2171e6c18d134e84af48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qc02fc7c56ef0e792a72b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":940,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:17:50.037Z","text":"所以 搞不清楚的话 我就说 要求法庭召开闭门会议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02fc7c56ef0e792a72b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe5f453080f05d69d934d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":941,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:17:56.615Z","text":"法官 luc 检方 辩方都要出席","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5f453080f05d69d934d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb726ac01cd9e101ff787","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":942,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:18:05.293Z","text":"这可不是小事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb726ac01cd9e101ff787","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q9ad3b59defdd83e18b27","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":943,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:18:20.764Z","text":"你不用说国安顶着枪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ad3b59defdd83e18b27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q345c25c8a574b37942b4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":944,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:18:34.559Z","text":"你就说是不是非法索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q345c25c8a574b37942b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf03132167d73d5b90677","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":945,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:19:08.533Z","text":"也就是说 有人骗你误导你 教唆你填的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf03132167d73d5b90677","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe070e66b4359f68e3543","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":946,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:19:20.389Z","text":"不用说别的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe070e66b4359f68e3543","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa1a02e8f964470184f2e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":947,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:19:43.326Z","text":"顶着枪让你填 不就是教唆？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1a02e8f964470184f2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q412b97dcdee5b8d63416","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":948,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:20:42.111Z","text":"绕开政治","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q412b97dcdee5b8d63416","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q63be11df2caf47a0fcd9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":949,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T21:37:50.990Z","text":"易建虎之前是填的债权人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63be11df2caf47a0fcd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1a51fcc0b0e0affb26fc","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":950,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:43:41.653Z","text":"我操 这个不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a51fcc0b0e0affb26fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe7cef5e6b10e1cdb6f4a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":951,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T21:43:47.223Z","text":"他要是填了就牛逼了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7cef5e6b10e1cdb6f4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb4917f5cffd427248ff9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":952,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T21:53:09.049Z","text":"🤣 九只妖只是 九层妖塔的第一层","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2166b18b0b93e1de087","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4917f5cffd427248ff9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2166b18b0b93e1de087","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3f1308df997ad48b8050","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":953,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T21:59:35.223Z","text":"https://x.com/gtv66879222/status/1947488314682183987?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f1308df997ad48b8050","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb200ad6b39badc679a24","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":954,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T22:01:24.488Z","text":"最近很多没漏脸的 推特网红 爆露","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb200ad6b39badc679a24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qff0c385f27e6d2938934","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":955,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T22:08:06.076Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1947776421222309940?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff0c385f27e6d2938934","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qcce78835f2988c87b38d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":956,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T22:10:42.986Z","text":"没时间看，瞄了一眼，觉得挺好的😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8b02b9667e92b4cf806","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcce78835f2988c87b38d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q706a3216c89acddc2567","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":957,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T22:11:03.580Z","text":"希望可以让一些韭菜醒过来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q706a3216c89acddc2567","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q61f9a47bd36fa494fdd4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":958,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T22:12:28.129Z","text":"还是太复杂，最后提炼成几句话就好了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcce78835f2988c87b38d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61f9a47bd36fa494fdd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcce78835f2988c87b38d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qcecadf6ac674b90e676c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":959,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T22:13:16.452Z","text":"我觉得挺好的，让他们有个概念，我觉得现在很多人连概念都没有，也不知道是真傻还是装傻","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61f9a47bd36fa494fdd4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcecadf6ac674b90e676c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61f9a47bd36fa494fdd4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6eee66431eca2f0a9e2b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":960,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T22:14:27.741Z","text":"成见太深，先入为主，你给他嚼碎了递到嘴边，他也不吃","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcecadf6ac674b90e676c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eee66431eca2f0a9e2b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcecadf6ac674b90e676c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1a6db1ce3f1c681adcdb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":961,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T22:14:52.071Z","text":"那个乱码还在那儿说：郭现在不承认财产是他的是因为那些财产是诈骗所得。郭要等翻案以后才承认财产是他的。😂 这是什么逻辑？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a6db1ce3f1c681adcdb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7978306569aebc72f563","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":962,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T22:16:39.885Z","text":"现在联盟能摸到的钱只有回投的a10吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7978306569aebc72f563","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q3bfa77e1941b8bb2ff27","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":963,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T22:24:55.486Z","text":"老郭不承认这些钱和他有关系。如果这些钱是老郭诈骗所得，这些钱就和老郭有关系！那个神经病，精神错乱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a6db1ce3f1c681adcdb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa77e1941b8bb2ff27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a6db1ce3f1c681adcdb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7415663fd86baacdd82a","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":964,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T22:25:33.082Z","text":"你还是和他把话题引到债权人登记妨碍司法虚假索赔吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7415663fd86baacdd82a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q4aba29fe90397347b8c1","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":965,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T22:26:59.524Z","text":"那也是老联盟 可以摸到的，所以 所有投了A10的 可以去把 共谋变成主谋 （这些人以老郭的名义欺诈你 老郭不知情）彻底解脱老郭，又把骗子抓去坐牢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7978306569aebc72f563","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aba29fe90397347b8c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7978306569aebc72f563","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q7c9256fa91ee35a218f3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":966,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T22:29:27.123Z","text":"我重复给他说了四五次虚假索赔，他都没反应。他说合不合法要法官裁定，我说没用。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7415663fd86baacdd82a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c9256fa91ee35a218f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7415663fd86baacdd82a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qbc93e8e755e3276bf5da","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":967,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T22:30:19.438Z","text":"他现在的认知还停留在，去要钱就是指控郭诈骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc93e8e755e3276bf5da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qf0e56332811c47aa7fe8","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":968,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T22:32:03.272Z","text":"这次没收的资产里有提到a10吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4aba29fe90397347b8c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0e56332811c47aa7fe8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aba29fe90397347b8c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q4bb107d1383511b0a136","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":969,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T22:32:10.609Z","text":"我现在真不觉得联盟是特务，他们就是骗子吧，就是骗钱吧。特务有这么low？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qccb229d79647dc97fba4","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bb107d1383511b0a136","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6ec94b65b5bbeb5838c3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":970,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T22:33:00.673Z","text":"这是要准备逃难的盘缠了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4bb107d1383511b0a136","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ec94b65b5bbeb5838c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bb107d1383511b0a136","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q33cca8ab3f4e3026f0bb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":971,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T22:42:38.448Z","text":"妨碍司法，是托雷斯已经认定的，要不然，为什么关老郭两年多啊？这个大[屏蔽词]大坏逼。你要和他干!","edited":true,"reply_to":"q7c9256fa91ee35a218f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33cca8ab3f4e3026f0bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c9256fa91ee35a218f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2616a0692ff18aabeb42","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":972,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-22T22:43:06.934Z","text":"他就专业灭爆的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc93e8e755e3276bf5da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2616a0692ff18aabeb42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc93e8e755e3276bf5da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5398046107102fce599b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":973,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-22T22:43:45.471Z","text":"灭爆步步为营，安排的几乎天衣无缝啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5398046107102fce599b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6380d40bded68afc93bb","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":974,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T22:44:18.250Z","text":"如果那些人不是坏蛋，你要经常给他们说债权人登记。回想一下，咱们也不是一下子明白过来的，需要多次强调，还需要足够的时机才能明白","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6380d40bded68afc93bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q269c966a67186925225d","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":975,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T23:00:16.161Z","text":"你比我有 佛心。还要救[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6380d40bded68afc93bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q269c966a67186925225d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6380d40bded68afc93bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q8b478283f68dc9e7751b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":976,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T23:03:58.805Z","text":"👇 不是傻，是坏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b478283f68dc9e7751b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q6a19df2efbbec258ba00","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":977,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T23:13:03.897Z","text":"哦，那就拿他当风向标正好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b31b85924685c5e5070","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a19df2efbbec258ba00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qd5577af7d06cfa7760fd","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":978,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T23:16:00.549Z","text":"我还以为她是第九层呢，不再会有比她更坏的了。现在才知道新中国联邦也是坏人的聚集地，就像美国，好人坏人都想呆在那里。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4917f5cffd427248ff9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5577af7d06cfa7760fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4917f5cffd427248ff9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qef58a49bfbf5aedc7bf5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":979,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T23:16:27.473Z","text":"好人不想呆😆 想呆的都是没反应过来的“好人”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef58a49bfbf5aedc7bf5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q36b97eca74cab9fe9cc1","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":980,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T23:37:13.865Z","text":"乱码妹现在说CVRA比853n更好，是想让“战友”们都去引用CVRA当受害者拿赔偿吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36b97eca74cab9fe9cc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q176973bfd61c849f9134","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":981,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-22T23:39:43.206Z","text":"真毒啊 领了老江派的任务吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36b97eca74cab9fe9cc1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q176973bfd61c849f9134","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36b97eca74cab9fe9cc1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1ab3d19e8a7e53a676a5","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":982,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-22T23:41:12.224Z","text":"那NFSC不就被它们玩烂了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef58a49bfbf5aedc7bf5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ab3d19e8a7e53a676a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef58a49bfbf5aedc7bf5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q78ad3fd186182cbe2a56","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":983,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T23:43:08.507Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1947804504315072804?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78ad3fd186182cbe2a56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2df3882e619307502e14","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":984,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T23:44:21.032Z","text":"已经玩烂了，这群里才几个人啊，还都是不承认自己是NFSC的。承认自己是NFSC的有好人吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ab3d19e8a7e53a676a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2df3882e619307502e14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ab3d19e8a7e53a676a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qe669f25c1e5227addf3c","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":985,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-22T23:48:48.841Z","text":"他们要举报熵增定律啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe669f25c1e5227addf3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q915ca54f626bafe5ad39","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":986,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T23:52:15.657Z","text":"一个多月的所有通话记录！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q915ca54f626bafe5ad39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q1bf1d109a34077b59621","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":987,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-22T23:52:36.951Z","text":"没有一个正常朋友家人电话！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf1d109a34077b59621","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5779850b6f6e526d8fb3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":988,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-23T00:01:06.438Z","text":"你看她ID 就是灭爆的。sand xi cp to hell 包子是我们“战友” 他想偷换概念","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b478283f68dc9e7751b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5779850b6f6e526d8fb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b478283f68dc9e7751b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q14675229a0eea2114db8","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":989,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-23T00:05:46.698Z","text":"老郭只在直播中说了一下让大家都去当债权人，就变成了法律上的妨碍司法、虚假索赔，而他的Trustee 俨然就像是他的打手，这决如此听老郭的话，（其实也是顺着文贵的杆子往上爬），噔噔噔，在联盟的鼓动下“顶风作案”、一下子把债权人虚假素赔的人数和金额串到了一位新台阶。这样看来，Luc就是老郭的打手和共谋，不管Luc之前是什么一个怪胎、如何被硬生生地变成了文贵的信托人、联盟也是文贵的同谋！联盟表面上站在文贵一方反Luc, 还举行过一百多天的抗议揭发Luc, 其实都是在演戏，联盟和Luc才是真正一伙的，合计着诬陷栽赃文贵、给检方递刀子，充当债权人、受害者，让文贵被起诉！\n俺总算想明白了！以前螺丝哥总说Luc和文贵是共谋，我老是转不过弯来，因为一直以来都觉得Luc是硬性被曼尼法官强塞进来当文贵的Trustee 的，Luc还敲诈文贵的一个亿被联盟拿岀来大肆宣传，所以一直觉得文贵和Luc是对立的，不可能会成为同谋。但是从法律意义上来说，Luc就是文贵的同谋，应该把Luc抓来试问。联盟上层领导成员自始至终都是表面爱七哥、背后捅刀子的爱郭贼、搅混水的能手！😀","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a1a65edec14c4c74bdf","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14675229a0eea2114db8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q4e57cbb97d925768aa0b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":990,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-23T00:50:28.869Z","text":"熵增定律是挺好的人呀。Ta 总是在我的推下点赞。他们想举报Ta什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe669f25c1e5227addf3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e57cbb97d925768aa0b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe669f25c1e5227addf3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q2ac759d8e129cd74a655","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":991,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-23T01:13:52.633Z","text":"看到了。岂有此理！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe669f25c1e5227addf3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ac759d8e129cd74a655","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe669f25c1e5227addf3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q99535448e6ee25f1ac67","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":992,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-23T01:51:19.391Z","text":"这是为啥？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99535448e6ee25f1ac67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5ce3499735d9ed4c36b3","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":993,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-23T01:51:26.511Z","text":"为什么说是刑事案有关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ce3499735d9ed4c36b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q926449ff5c814f40676e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":994,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-23T01:52:26.651Z","text":"是指的什么刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q926449ff5c814f40676e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qb687fd1dbe4b53d59e9b","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":995,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-23T01:52:50.934Z","text":"哦 他说的是不存在的摸摸币刑事案吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q926449ff5c814f40676e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb687fd1dbe4b53d59e9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q926449ff5c814f40676e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q793aabe9d1b73a75e59e","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":996,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-23T01:55:16.592Z","text":"朱贝贝7.5的视频，说她的邮箱被法院封了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q793aabe9d1b73a75e59e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"qa67f079cc5514bd7fee4","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":997,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-23T01:56:23.435Z","text":"瞎几把扯，老郭的刑事案 重大进展 他们怎么不敢说，又鸡扒 张冠李戴 模糊概念，从来就没有对 唐平 发起过 诉讼，律师是谁 摆出来，案件编号 亮出来 走两步","edited":false,"reply_to":"q476e025d3aae071d746b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa67f079cc5514bd7fee4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017"},{"id":"q5e5c2787022a7d0ecf74","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":998,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-23T01:57:07.307Z","text":"他们自己 一伙人，跟唐平 达成某种 和解 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