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说明不属于gtv 任何还在说 自己投资gtv的  都没搞明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb7d32fbe3159d56d508","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06f86c6e038202533ba4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q5a1aecad36c2541ab9d2","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":406,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T09:55:47.626Z","text":"说的轻松，他们虚报金额已经产生一系列的后果，郭都被关两年了，g系列投资不知道亏多少钱了，就一句我改了还不行吗，就拉到了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40a05e5404dc9e2cf6be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a1aecad36c2541ab9d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40a05e5404dc9e2cf6be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qde9d496082db85656586","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":407,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T09:55:53.688Z","text":"也就是说郭本身说所有亏的钱他来承担是广告效应，并不是说他真的要承担亏损的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa3822aabe5da9ea0caf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde9d496082db85656586","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa3822aabe5da9ea0caf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q4b0923b34149e7901d31","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":408,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T09:56:32.732Z","text":"因为如果他真的法律上要承担亏损的钱，那他确实是欠所有人的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b0923b34149e7901d31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qd02d0045237b92ce1246","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":409,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T09:57:05.848Z","text":"你扯这个没意义，现在亏没亏没有定论，郭现在也没有人身自由，啥也干不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qde9d496082db85656586","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd02d0045237b92ce1246","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde9d496082db85656586","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q03064a7e0e5d21d2bccb","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":410,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T09:57:06.541Z","text":"不是所有 是九只妖以前的。后面不承担","edited":false,"reply_to":"qde854a76ac9849faddfa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03064a7e0e5d21d2bccb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde854a76ac9849faddfa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qdfed642853af70bad9ec","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":411,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T09:57:29.613Z","text":"这是你认为，他口头上说，没有任何协议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b0923b34149e7901d31","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfed642853af70bad9ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b0923b34149e7901d31","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qaf21856205b2bebdd70c","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":412,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T09:58:08.438Z","text":"但是如果拱族他们说他们GTV亏了钱，而且郭说了他会承担所有亏损，所以他们去登记了郭的债权人，那也是合理的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd02d0045237b92ce1246","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf21856205b2bebdd70c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd02d0045237b92ce1246","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qa60cad9f3a72bb56e404","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":413,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T09:58:41.967Z","text":"检方在庭审的时候，就说郭保证了所有人不会亏钱，这是郭诈骗的手段","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa60cad9f3a72bb56e404","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q017c5ad869bdb61b05aa","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":414,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T09:59:32.696Z","text":"合啥理？gtv钱已经退了，损失的就是手续费，跟他们报的金额能一样吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf21856205b2bebdd70c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017c5ad869bdb61b05aa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf21856205b2bebdd70c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q31e362454598d7b547ab","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":415,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:00:00.459Z","text":"对。汇给哪个农场了。你要找 农场主。他们才是骗你钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd46378f93cb87448aac2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31e362454598d7b547ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q39acb5cc8f4076647db1","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":416,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:00:10.583Z","text":"只能说，1.郭说这话是广告效应 2.郭说他会赔偿所有损失，是如果你到最后真的赔钱，而没有别的出路拿到赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39acb5cc8f4076647db1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q22539256c1cd11fa5927","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":417,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:00:40.884Z","text":"你不能按街道大妈的思维看问题，这是法庭，一切讲证据，不是讲情理","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa60cad9f3a72bb56e404","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22539256c1cd11fa5927","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa60cad9f3a72bb56e404","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qdc3d6c7ba6542c0a4994","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":418,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-07-24T10:00:53.752Z","text":"螺丝哥说话很有逻辑的，说的很对钱都在美国司法部扣押之中，要钱只能找美国司法部","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3d6c7ba6542c0a4994","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qfecee2b3731dc049089d","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":419,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:02:01.814Z","text":"检方的逻辑是，郭明知道自己其实没有钱（申请了破产），还向投资者保证会赔偿他们所有损失，这就是诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22539256c1cd11fa5927","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecee2b3731dc049089d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22539256c1cd11fa5927","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q44b079812bc86bb62b15","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":420,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:02:34.114Z","text":"司法部是为你“好” 你要搞清楚 你汇给谁了。智障被盖儿骗 找司法部要钱🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc3d6c7ba6542c0a4994","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44b079812bc86bb62b15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3d6c7ba6542c0a4994","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q6eb7a14edb7f1f31489f","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":421,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:02:55.054Z","text":"郭没说用自己的钱赔偿吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfecee2b3731dc049089d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb7a14edb7f1f31489f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecee2b3731dc049089d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q273e4315bbf3a81511c0","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":422,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:03:13.673Z","text":"富人破产就没钱可用了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q273e4315bbf3a81511c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qea0f42a8718d84bbb3d2","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":423,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:03:14.050Z","text":"你这还是没醒啊。先摆脱你的文字辈吧。你就是典型的标签🏷️ 被代表 自己还舍不得斯🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc3d6c7ba6542c0a4994","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea0f42a8718d84bbb3d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3d6c7ba6542c0a4994","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q4a8f7d05e6333ac79b1f","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":424,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:04:42.571Z","text":"我觉得这周检方的动议不一定会只拿债权人登记说事，他们会拿很多其他的证人证词乱七八糟的，证明郭是G系列控制人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6eb7a14edb7f1f31489f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a8f7d05e6333ac79b1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb7a14edb7f1f31489f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q10d2304ef0dd0c8801d5","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":425,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:05:14.291Z","text":"现在郭现在只承认自己是代言人，顾问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10d2304ef0dd0c8801d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qd584ffe7a6d0a83e0f76","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":426,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:05:55.007Z","text":"检方肯定要狡辩的，背后势力也不允许他投降","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a8f7d05e6333ac79b1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd584ffe7a6d0a83e0f76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a8f7d05e6333ac79b1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qaa492a39f320ca6fa614","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":427,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-07-24T10:06:05.571Z","text":"我也没在g系列投资","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea0f42a8718d84bbb3d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa492a39f320ca6fa614","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea0f42a8718d84bbb3d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qb63e80d419a8700b431e","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":428,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:08:04.861Z","text":"其实郭说自己会赔偿G系列的所有损失这句话，正常人可能都是听听就完了，不会相信。但是有些人他是当真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63e80d419a8700b431e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q019464b98a1fc83c3c7a","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":429,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:08:13.681Z","text":"多么聪明的人 没有一分钱投资。却四年郭粉 然后被踢 就醒了🤣🤣🤣🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q019464b98a1fc83c3c7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q07f200c0adbfe93bb36d","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":430,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:08:44.771Z","text":"检方现在就是抓住你说这句话，砸你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07f200c0adbfe93bb36d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q91694dd2e555f28e97cb","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":431,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:08:46.141Z","text":"没有投资你来干什么😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91694dd2e555f28e97cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q73664343756888e7361b","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":432,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-07-24T10:09:13.503Z","text":"我说的是现在的伪联盟不是说的郭先生听懂了没有，不在你重复了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q019464b98a1fc83c3c7a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73664343756888e7361b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q019464b98a1fc83c3c7a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q52a54994760b2cad5a78","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":433,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:10:28.080Z","text":"没有投资 你来干什么。不管真假联盟。[屏蔽词] 从来就没有真联盟 都是一群诈骗犯","edited":true,"reply_to":"qaa492a39f320ca6fa614","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52a54994760b2cad5a78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa492a39f320ca6fa614","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q4826b057a6d1d206f786","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":434,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:11:51.001Z","text":"他应该是想问，您来这个群，是来为螺丝哥的翻案思路出力的，还是想找个不禁言的战友集中地，不吐不快抒发一下自己愤懑和看法的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa492a39f320ca6fa614","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4826b057a6d1d206f786","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa492a39f320ca6fa614","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q5769e98c279d9a3b1da5","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":435,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:12:22.034Z","text":"这个群很多人都没投资吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52a54994760b2cad5a78","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5769e98c279d9a3b1da5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52a54994760b2cad5a78","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q8b720c45dd08eed440f7","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":436,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:12:29.332Z","text":"有没有投资无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b720c45dd08eed440f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q06406101b89ce8369d78","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":437,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:13:36.055Z","text":"这个群不禁言、不控立场是真，非常可贵，但不代表这里面的每个人本身不刻薄和剑拔弩张，这两码事，您理解下，但大多都是战友","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73664343756888e7361b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06406101b89ce8369d78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73664343756888e7361b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qd8d9e08f44ef86ecdd12","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":438,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:14:28.095Z","text":"他本身是骨干...不会被屏蔽的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24592b00375f7a0afbc7","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8d9e08f44ef86ecdd12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q2dbe59fc9f257abf7f12","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":439,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:15:04.526Z","text":"这个群说话风格比较...那啥，你见识到了，理解下，战友们在殊死一搏，难免草木皆兵，怀疑你的动机","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dbe59fc9f257abf7f12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q6383b2f6967deb1ef21d","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":440,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:16:04.649Z","text":"没投资还能到现在的应该很少吧，纯粹坚定的灭共者现在早就不存在了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5769e98c279d9a3b1da5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6383b2f6967deb1ef21d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5769e98c279d9a3b1da5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q364969be60de6af258a4","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":441,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:16:48.361Z","text":"有各种原因吧，机缘巧合","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6383b2f6967deb1ef21d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q364969be60de6af258a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6383b2f6967deb1ef21d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qdd776a0b8ee9bb49fdb7","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":442,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:16:58.258Z","text":"但是确实很少","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6383b2f6967deb1ef21d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd776a0b8ee9bb49fdb7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6383b2f6967deb1ef21d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q136d0784d45b7b71af39","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":443,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:17:00.264Z","text":"不投资的人，本身说明对爆料革命就不是百分百的坚信能成功，所以不太可能还坚持","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6383b2f6967deb1ef21d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q136d0784d45b7b71af39","reply_url":"http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先把你名字改了啊。这么执着 文子辈。还是九只妖的小兵","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62cd42db2849378dcc85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qacbf16de1c60747a215b","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":448,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:18:19.302Z","text":"没有投资 名字随便改","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacbf16de1c60747a215b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q9ab86f3b5c19206ac22a","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":449,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:18:27.535Z","text":"也不一定是因为灭共，郭还说有些gay听他爆料就是因为喜欢他本人呢，每个人原因不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ff4b2bd105a4819b75a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ab86f3b5c19206ac22a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ff4b2bd105a4819b75a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q4abb973d2a29886a2f1d","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":450,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:18:50.650Z","text":"不要纠结别人的动机","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4abb973d2a29886a2f1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q310404249f78513f4896","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":451,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:18:51.625Z","text":"[屏蔽词] 有投资 你说不方便改 还符合点常识","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q310404249f78513f4896","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q7256ef723db81d23d4da","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":452,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:18:53.213Z","text":"那是看热闹的，纯粹的局外人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ab86f3b5c19206ac22a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7256ef723db81d23d4da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ab86f3b5c19206ac22a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q6f656b00737a1bdd0a48","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":453,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-07-24T10:19:01.523Z","text":"你是不是投资损失很重啊？所以在这里发泄你心中的不快。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62cd42db2849378dcc85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f656b00737a1bdd0a48","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62cd42db2849378dcc85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qb27e850589f54ea23a03","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":454,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:20:46.154Z","text":"👍 对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ff4b2bd105a4819b75a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb27e850589f54ea23a03","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ff4b2bd105a4819b75a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q02db50224accc4165bb7","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":455,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:20:51.219Z","text":"他们这几个骨干大多是为了给郭翻案出力的，用螺丝的“其人之道还治其人”利用法庭漏洞往回打的策略，暴露案子的“荒唐性”以撤案，你可以了解下，愿意的话","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f656b00737a1bdd0a48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02db50224accc4165bb7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f656b00737a1bdd0a48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q2c955a69fc56eabcccdb","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":456,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:21:10.049Z","text":"基本算是“务实的”，不是纯发泄什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c955a69fc56eabcccdb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qff8678287defeac1a6ab","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":457,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T10:21:31.143Z","text":"说不定你看了觉得有道理，能帮上忙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff8678287defeac1a6ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qb6f010eca3708324b7e2","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":458,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:22:37.467Z","text":"拱族他们去签债权人登记确实是不太合理，因为虽然郭承诺赔偿所有损失，也是如果你到最后真的没有任何其他出路拿到赔偿的情况下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6f010eca3708324b7e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qd506a2325b0615c57823","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":459,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:22:40.076Z","text":"713的时间是到这月底吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd506a2325b0615c57823","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qb40dfe698899e4709adc","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":460,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:23:14.685Z","text":"拱族应该先去SEC要赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40dfe698899e4709adc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q09bfe93b2d3b996c32c1","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":461,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:23:51.886Z","text":"破产庭以前从来没关注过，这个债权人登记最早是通过哪发起的，拱卒豆豆他们怎么知道的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6f010eca3708324b7e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09bfe93b2d3b996c32c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6f010eca3708324b7e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q65b25e6971767671ef50","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":462,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:23:54.716Z","text":"郭以前的律师有没有打击检方这个说法？如果有，检方是怎么回应的？就是郭说会亲自赔偿所有投资人损失这件事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65b25e6971767671ef50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q880d9e2eee467eae1679","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":463,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-24T10:24:25.094Z","text":"对。先去那边退款","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb40dfe698899e4709adc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q880d9e2eee467eae1679","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40dfe698899e4709adc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q389fe1e2e3466f2a1d9b","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":464,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T10:27:38.732Z","text":"法庭文件上没有提到这一点吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65b25e6971767671ef50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q389fe1e2e3466f2a1d9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65b25e6971767671ef50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q2f2c2d853c2275e6af81","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":465,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T10:28:01.704Z","text":"提到了，这是检方砸锅很重要的一个点","edited"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ntp***］ 把luc 失职之罪加进去。是个抓手","edited":true,"reply_to":"q16d821cff2dd17fd039f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2f21bbe4296a4b405c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q692d57c2cbc0f2cae764","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":477,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T11:03:48.865Z","text":"他接受高比例索赔就是失职","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2f21bbe4296a4b405c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q692d57c2cbc0f2cae764","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2f21bbe4296a4b405c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q3ab276b872b73227da6a","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":478,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T11:15:27.814Z","text":"债权人登记的初期，你的金额不一定要对，因为审查是受托人的责任，而且不一定是马上审查，分钱之前审查就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a1aecad36c2541ab9d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ab276b872b73227da6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a1aecad36c2541ab9d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q878727c2a5e836faac15","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":479,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T11:15:54.036Z","text":"现在还没分钱，金额错了也无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q878727c2a5e836faac15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qb30759d767613675c225","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":480,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T11:16:51.285Z","text":"有这规定吗？你不查就可以起诉抓人了？那还有没有栽赃陷害这一说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ab276b872b73227da6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb30759d767613675c225","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ab276b872b73227da6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q68fda7a7b67e722b247a","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":481,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T11:17:59.406Z","text":"金额对错和抓人无关。金额对错审查，在分钱之前做就可以了，就是说luc现在做，你也不能说他错。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb30759d767613675c225","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68fda7a7b67e722b247a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb30759d767613675c225","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q7179f814aae591b0d117","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":482,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T11:18:31.059Z","text":"抓人是只要有人登记就可以了，哪怕你登记一块钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb30759d767613675c225","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7179f814aae591b0d117","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb30759d767613675c225","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q73efaeb8fc902c434373","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":483,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T11:18:33.542Z","text":"问题是抓人的受害人就是债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68fda7a7b67e722b247a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73efaeb8fc902c434373","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68fda7a7b67e722b247a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q6e3406966486c727a882","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":484,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T11:18:50.644Z","text":"抓人和你登记一千倍没关系。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e3406966486c727a882","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q0b272b51de56eb40ae22","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":485,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T11:19:13.654Z","text":"抓人是有人登记，就可以抓人，当然登记人越多，越好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b272b51de56eb40ae22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qfc3c2f60b463cd102971","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":486,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T11:20:03.372Z","text":"偷东西还有个5000以上刑拘呢，说个一块钱就来抓人了，还关两年？你过家家呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc3c2f60b463cd102971","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q4472611e074c48a72ebb","batch_id"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in在这里，而且本身知识结构和认知水准，说句真不该说的，我也没歧视的意思，您去真的理解自己正在盲人摸象钻研的领域，确实非常困难。即便所有目标落空，也不会放弃这个信念，是可预计的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dc0e7c3d66ea54c3ffa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q3ce79f9b520b98f7757e","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":598,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T12:13:58.750Z","text":"所以不要跟我“讲理”，你站在你的角度是对的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ce79f9b520b98f7757e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"q6f2255c61ddde5a5fd95","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":599,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T12:15:12.755Z","text":"我只能打个“预防针”，不论您觉得我多智障，你多么神奇的成为唯一一个发现郭案突破口的人，当事实最终与你相悖的时候，您看开点。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f2255c61ddde5a5fd95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"},{"id":"qaad719bc929bac3f7e74","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":600,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-24T12:28:09.590Z","text":"我觉得量刑后吧，我尝试跟各位稍认真点讨论下郭定罪的...细节？因为现在探讨毫无意义、那时各位的信念或许能软化点，稍微兼听点别的分析下，如果还是坚如磐石，那就算了，我还是观摩各位的下一阶段计策，感兴趣的偶尔插插话。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad719bc929bac3f7e74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000017","next_batch_id":"batch-000019"}