{"id":"batch-000019","number":19,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-07-25T01:52:25.574Z","date_end":"2025-07-28T04:54:36.180Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 019 (Jul 25, 2025 – Jul 28, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated defense strategy and procedural developments in Case 23 Cr. 118, focusing on a sentencing postponement motion, 3500 materials, and unsealing sealed documents 714 and 715. Discussions also weighed G-series creditor registration, bankruptcy rulings, and unindicted co-conspirator lists like Doc 382-1. 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双向解决","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51da752ebeccfe9344b9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5c89b5518161a061408","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51da752ebeccfe9344b9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q2cc8dc8eb44cae7875c9","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":808,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T04:11:49.571Z","text":"但按照现在的鸡吧情况 川普亲自查案 都没用  因为你自己律师[屏蔽词] 程序不正义都没捅出去","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cc8dc8eb44cae7875c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q17b58373e216c54a38d2","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":809,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-27T04:14:57.691Z","text":"政治转向后直接撤诉，检方自己知道它们有多荒唐。现在可能还是要跟中共做交易让美国人混日子。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5c89b5518161a061408","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17b58373e216c54a38d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5c89b5518161a061408","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qa4b06522294da3ae28c6","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":810,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-27T04:17:29.725Z","text":"有这个可能。不过三维斗不过五维","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17b58373e216c54a38d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4b06522294da3ae28c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17b58373e216c54a38d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q129625ec276da151ed45","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":811,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-27T04:28:05.485Z","text":"ccp的力量早已渗透到了国际，美国。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6937fd752adeda0b9378","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q129625ec276da151ed45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6937fd752adeda0b9378","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qdd399be71e3d3f39285a","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":812,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-27T06:29:56.678Z","text":"看到新律师跑偏了，他们当然高兴啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b2ad002ceda161c686e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd399be71e3d3f39285a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qbd890679c58dd504b1db","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":813,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-27T06:51:52.698Z","text":"川普上台以来好像对灭共的兴趣越来越小，自己家里的破事儿太多，应接不暇","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17b58373e216c54a38d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd890679c58dd504b1db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17b58373e216c54a38d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q22b57cc3c94c7f7d08b3","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":814,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T07:05:24.159Z","text":"我经常骂人。我骂你，你有回应。为什么叶钊颖郝海东还有你转发的那些爱郭贼全部躲着绕着装聋作哑装瞎啊？我草他们八辈祖宗，他们也装看不见","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdaa142504b481d277a53","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b57cc3c94c7f7d08b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q33e831516a0269b4086b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":815,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T07:08:19.709Z","text":"连骂人都不能接受 还灭屁的共","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33e831516a0269b4086b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q507d18cc2a6e9def3ce4","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":816,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T07:14:18.296Z","text":"［用户 ***］ 长岛的狗奴才","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q507d18cc2a6e9def3ce4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qc05300b48e1459728bd1","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":817,"speaker":"mus***","date":"2025-07-27T07:14:39.637Z","text":"灭共？真以为自己是反革命了？也配？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc05300b48e1459728bd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qd7423d1b89e647479a95","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":818,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T07:28:22.191Z","text":"这才说明我们在做事情是有价值的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e29760c0321eb05d7ad","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7423d1b89e647479a95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q30c5d247e33d108b220a","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":819,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T07:28:33.877Z","text":"但他们真的没人理解我们在干吗…","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30c5d247e33d108b220a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q296db0f30fc99db466ad","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":820,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-27T07:34:42.565Z","text":"他们只是求发泄，被中共耍，被联盟耍，现在又觉得被七哥耍，却从来不去想为什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7423d1b89e647479a95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q296db0f30fc99db466ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7423d1b89e647479a95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q8580e7ef013b0706416d","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":821,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-27T07:35:21.924Z","text":"一辈子活不明白","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8580e7ef013b0706416d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q6e417fc58c4b2c9d9598","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":822,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T09:21:06.283Z","text":"［用户 ***］  你这个[屏蔽词] 你这样也没用 我们该写动议还是写","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e417fc58c4b2c9d9598","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q0493d51a63723fba85bc","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":823,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T09:21:37.054Z","text":"托雷斯没收程序已经被我们吃定了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0493d51a63723fba85bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qb3987c73ea896520600b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":824,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T09:21:44.025Z","text":"不要做无意义的挣扎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3987c73ea896520600b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q9de7a085738c33df9c22","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":825,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:13:50.654Z","text":"中共的有一类宣传就是中国人都是垃圾，引导人们仇恨中国人，而不是中共。就是推特上的所谓支黑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d4040c40d3a46d3e1c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9de7a085738c33df9c22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d4040c40d3a46d3e1c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q52a2a0edff2b76d256a2","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":826,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:16:39.762Z","text":"如果不把中国人和中共分开，西方很难对中共下手。中共现在是肯定完了，早晚的问题。但是中国人是不是要和中共一起被埋掉，这是个令人头痛的问题。郭就是不想中国人这个群体被灭掉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52a2a0edff2b76d256a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qc704894888af7406d34e","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":827,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:17:43.522Z","text":"除了那些真的想给中共陪葬的傻叉坏逼们，如果你不想给中共陪葬，你就站出来。郭案是最好的投名状。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc704894888af7406d34e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qb165f119f84bc6b54c4c","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":828,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:18:33.315Z","text":"刷屏改变不了你们陪葬的命运。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb165f119f84bc6b54c4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q6058f58189a13202d191","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":829,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:36:17.984Z","text":"现在还有一种言论，就是所谓的西方的黑暗力量会和中共一起怎么怎么样，让人觉得中共还有支持者。西方的“黑暗”力量早晚也会抛弃中共，或者说已经是在抛弃的过程中。所以不要心存侥幸，赶紧站出来。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6058f58189a13202d191","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q0a567c6ac37927682c68","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":830,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T10:40:17.194Z","text":"现在这种状态，我觉得老郭可能心理有数，西方，或者美国，为了自己的利益或者生存，一定会和共产党决裂！这种赌注确实有些大，那自己所有身家去赌。我的命，确实一文不值，但是，我希望，哪怕我赌错了，我也至少对得起来人世一遭，即使什么最基本的目标也没有达成。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6058f58189a13202d191","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a567c6ac37927682c68","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6058f58189a13202d191","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q904c5ff380bae8b017f3","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":831,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T10:41:34.958Z","text":"我现在觉得，在这个社会，我根本无法存活的品质，在中国社会这个变革的时代，也许是我活着的价值","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q904c5ff380bae8b017f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q155323fd92656f68b870","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":832,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:42:31.706Z","text":"War room 现在是不是不让nfsc做节目了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q155323fd92656f68b870","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q77710816d7d7c303aeda","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":833,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T10:43:09.779Z","text":"我不关心这些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q155323fd92656f68b870","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77710816d7d7c303aeda","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q155323fd92656f68b870","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q6d30c2102cbb0ecbd006","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":834,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:45:31.113Z","text":"我也从来不看war room","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77710816d7d7c303aeda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d30c2102cbb0ecbd006","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77710816d7d7c303aeda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qe1369333a2cf71e1664e","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":835,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T10:49:56.763Z","text":"决裂肯定会发生。只不过是到最后是只埋了中共，还是中国人一起陪葬的问题。如果中国人再不觉醒，只能一起埋了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a567c6ac37927682c68","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1369333a2cf71e1664e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a567c6ac37927682c68","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q43a9ac1988c4f9c7a739","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":836,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-27T11:09:12.331Z","text":"那个Z开头的，居然把文贵对Inty 的及时切割当一回事儿，Inty那么好，那它直接跟他去好了。\n话说回来，我也曾经是那个新疆少伙子的粉丝，他以前的直播我也一直都看得津津有味的，直到他反复利用川普的中国病毒一词。那个时候我还对有才的人特别敬重，觉得他的英文好，那个时候他还做了很多中英现场翻译，吸了不少粉。\n他还在路边发掘出了一个姓冯的90多岁的反共老先生，并找他做了好几期的直播，老先生的人生经历吸引了我。后来的相关直播就没了踪影，我还追问过几次，都不见回复。\n那个时候如果被大V点赞一下或者念出自己的名字，都觉得很幸福。\n现在才发现，大V都是一垛屎。 😀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43a9ac1988c4f9c7a739","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q5e2c8653d87507c25caa","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":837,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:25:30.962Z","text":"您有点误解我那翻上下文好像。我是说我变节的最后一个时间节点是Inty，不是缘由；那时我已经因先前对郭的所言所行所宣称进行的个人核对可见事实判断、百分之99确定郭不如我原先所想，但我主观怀着一丝希望。Inty的事是彻底盖棺，因为如果我“不情愿”的去按我现在的大前提去理解郭的言行，Inty事件能完美契合并说通。不是我因为我粉inty怎么样，我说实话没主动关注过他，了解他是因为他挺过郭，俩人还有过同框镜头。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q43a9ac1988c4f9c7a739","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e2c8653d87507c25caa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43a9ac1988c4f9c7a739","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q3cf622211819bd5664bf","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":838,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:28:26.887Z","text":"Inty是不是特务不知道，但是他那种言论确实是反华人，而不只是反共。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e2c8653d87507c25caa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cf622211819bd5664bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e2c8653d87507c25caa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qdc3a8fd6d8ccc209e1de","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":839,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:28:48.693Z","text":"如果他只是自己瞎比比，也没有任何问题，言论自由","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3a8fd6d8ccc209e1de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q5bcdf6c4e1d95e9abef2","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":840,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:29:23.030Z","text":"如果他背后是有资金支持的，那郭说他没有任何问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bcdf6c4e1d95e9abef2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q11c07711683f783df120","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":841,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:31:10.988Z","text":"这我不争论，各位肯定认为我这些思路是错的。我只是对那位女士澄清下因果的误解。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11c07711683f783df120","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q725258936a85a06e6f51","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":842,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:36:38.667Z","text":"喜国最糟糕的习气就是一言堂，真的让人不可接受。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa002cbd540ee3df94535","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q725258936a85a06e6f51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q3cc96af0b55f2cf0714e","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":843,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:37:31.291Z","text":"任何个体，只要形成一定领导力，一定是跟自己观点不一，立刻要么捂嘴踢人，要么互相R八辈祖宗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cc96af0b55f2cf0714e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q6cec91e66c339d719f6b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":844,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:38:51.898Z","text":"无奈郭本人就是如此干的，这个各位想必也是承认的，郭在时期，联盟是绝对的一言堂，只有郭允许的观点和立场可以流通，不能对郭的体系和言论质疑半句，更不能对郭某一时刻使用的疑似蒋干类角色提前公开质疑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cec91e66c339d719f6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q092edb6d1123c00f5268","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":845,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T11:39:11.651Z","text":"https://x.com/laomaoziguahao/status/1949100459266019712","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q092edb6d1123c00f5268","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q5bcbbae5dd6a529be7d2","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":846,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T11:39:43.112Z","text":"这小伙子，比我强万倍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bcbbae5dd6a529be7d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qbc677533fe3daa412f02","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":847,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:39:54.445Z","text":"当然各位会说这是革命的权宜之计，郭的判断都是对的，跟着走没错，不能搞不团结之类的。但基础事实确实我们得承认，郭是个绝对正确的一言堂，至少。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc677533fe3daa412f02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q1bea322f3cc2d0320d58","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":848,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:40:56.035Z","text":"我看到的是，联盟经常打着郭的名义干自己的事情，架空郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cec91e66c339d719f6b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bea322f3cc2d0320d58","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cec91e66c339d719f6b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qd8d633a6ef202de1f7df","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":849,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:41:30.625Z","text":"然后不知所以的吃瓜群众以为郭和联盟是一体的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8d633a6ef202de1f7df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qe598f5964a372a9fae6c","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":850,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:41:33.105Z","text":"你可以这么理解，总之本质上，联盟从来都是一言堂，我没说错吧？可能不是郭本意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bea322f3cc2d0320d58","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe598f5964a372a9fae6c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bea322f3cc2d0320d58","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q1c81c98aa00d350f29b3","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":851,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:41:58.578Z","text":"郭希望大家多多批评，质疑自己，但被架空。。。你可以这么想，但实际就是一言堂，我的意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c81c98aa00d350f29b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q9ddf6183276f6bd4ff87","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":852,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:42:02.337Z","text":"联盟就是一群小混混，也许是小特务？不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe598f5964a372a9fae6c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ddf6183276f6bd4ff87","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe598f5964a372a9fae6c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q0e910d25af53c48b5f3c","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":853,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:42:49.618Z","text":"没有郭，谁知道他们是谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e910d25af53c48b5f3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q84e396928eaac7c0127c","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":854,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:42:54.699Z","text":"总之在喜国和喜国延伸的遗产里，像螺丝这里不搞一言堂的，弥足珍贵","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84e396928eaac7c0127c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q246e84323139afc7a8f1","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":855,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:43:11.096Z","text":"螺丝哥是有为青年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q246e84323139afc7a8f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q927b6ef94d7c8f08aa83","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":856,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T11:43:19.607Z","text":"华人的希望😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q927b6ef94d7c8f08aa83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qefc6d6f31f51c55fe6b9","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":857,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:43:37.981Z","text":"虽然这里要我说，战友间太刺刀见红了，稍微不一样的观点，立刻八辈祖宗，不是很妥，我摸良心说。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefc6d6f31f51c55fe6b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qfadf774291f2955a38f6","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":858,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:43:59.110Z","text":"但我“邪恶”地讲，我喜欢看，有些人很搞笑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfadf774291f2955a38f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mub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B，我总算理解了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q725258936a85a06e6f51","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q381b9b9afd879a3a8064","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q725258936a85a06e6f51","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q4a42221d00aee9f448fa","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":860,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:46:23.960Z","text":"我不是说了吗？螺丝这里不搞一言堂，弥足珍贵","edited":false,"reply_to":"q381b9b9afd879a3a8064","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a42221d00aee9f448fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q381b9b9afd879a3a8064","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qb3b607339660d8b92bfc","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":861,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:47:06.931Z","text":"这位女士，我觉得您能不能先放下立场，别带着怒火去读我的原文，你会看漏和误解很多。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3b607339660d8b92bfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qccd9821a1eda9503267b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":862,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T11:47:50.480Z","text":"别一两个词出现，你就把我整段话否定了，不见得的。联盟向来是一言堂，这个基础事实是成立的，你可以自行解读缘由，这个不要紧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccd9821a1eda9503267b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q59dbe14baf50a9888da9","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":863,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-27T11:57:42.205Z","text":"对不起哈，我是后来才看到这句话。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a42221d00aee9f448fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59dbe14baf50a9888da9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a42221d00aee9f448fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qb9213e3d9b77f0e0e2e2","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":864,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T12:01:08.114Z","text":"对吧，我虽然说在理解和分析问题上被认为是“SB”，但不代表我基础的一些逻辑都理不清，螺丝这里是真的言论自由，甚至尺度都略大了；这个咱们讲道理，一码是一码。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59dbe14baf50a9888da9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9213e3d9b77f0e0e2e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59dbe14baf50a9888da9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qcd0bc8b20233e0ac18c9","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":865,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T12:05:28.332Z","text":"你还算客观一些。我不像踏浪这个[屏蔽词]，指责别不给他言论自由，他搞一下群，立刻就不给我言论自由，他的群，我进去遵守他的规则，不骂街，还是两次毫无理由把我踢出！别人没有给我的，我一定会给别人！在这方面，我超过绝大多数人！哪怕我骂你祖宗八辈，改遵守的原则，我也会遵守！","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb9213e3d9b77f0e0e2e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd0bc8b20233e0ac18c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9213e3d9b77f0e0e2e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q2ac579036a3abac4fbb0","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":866,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T12:06:21.741Z","text":"他的群是干啥的？也是讨论策略的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ac579036a3abac4fbb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qc59927a95bc3076cad20","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":867,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T12:12:47.149Z","text":"婚嫁这种事情，还是要听sarah的😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q250da1c71c7bffc5c570","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc59927a95bc3076cad20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q0105dc29236a78c7c0de","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":868,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T12:17:04.698Z","text":"这是本群群风，你稍微理解下吧。喜国难得有非言论管控的地带，可以将就、","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b0437ef9fb7d3d92dc6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0105dc29236a78c7c0de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qa8cf2b5fabe20310a539","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":869,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-27T12:17:19.535Z","text":"言之有物即可，别较真这些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8cf2b5fabe20310a539","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://m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你个垃圾，你没有投资的来搅和什么","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q304fa42425e64f3831d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qd9eb6382541eb3f5d72d","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":881,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:26:31.380Z","text":"我动议写了一半了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9eb6382541eb3f5d72d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q1f5c92f8ec855df4d37f","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":882,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:26:40.282Z","text":"这个动议上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5c92f8ec855df4d37f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qbc73029f6371e6076ca3","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":883,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:26:49.673Z","text":"法官 检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc73029f6371e6076ca3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q0d1aef197deccddf5cf1","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":884,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:26:54.538Z","text":"老郭律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d1aef197deccddf5cf1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q1f5593260b3763862e92","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":885,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:27:11.452Z","text":"都要高潮🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5593260b3763862e92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q64d3ca633dab07982246","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":886,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:39:20.677Z","text":"盖尔引用受害者权力法案的是哪个文件？ ［用户 him***］ ［用户 chu***］ ［用户 ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64d3ca633dab07982246","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qe9c1f3ebe363714165bb","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":887,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-27T19:45:26.667Z","text":"第二次要钱引用的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9c1f3ebe363714165bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q64580c833671d3297681","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":888,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:46:16.512Z","text":"我找到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64580c833671d3297681","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q00a2868d3284edc78304","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":889,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:46:18.514Z","text":"478","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00a2868d3284edc78304","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qa4049095e39ac589aeb0","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":890,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T19:53:22.440Z","text":"对的 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一样","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q274649ac2480e28fb6c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q8cc7a662ec9b446fd678","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":930,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-27T20:05:36.282Z","text":"这帮傻X天天炒冷饭，对真正要紧的事儿却不闻不问","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b12b2bbd9d0a587143d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cc7a662ec9b446fd678","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b12b2bbd9d0a587143d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q3071c565b4a21a76fe78","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":931,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-27T20:53:33.994Z","text":"等他们高潮了，记得炫一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9eb6382541eb3f5d72d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3071c565b4a21a76fe78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9eb6382541eb3f5d72d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q501be024b2dce4929e52","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":932,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T23:49:55.056Z","text":"一件虎也投资了gclub","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e6863598dd16b4b91eb","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q501be024b2dce4929e52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qce716e275a808a008003","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":933,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-27T23:50:21.942Z","text":"gtv已经和解，才被陪审团裁定无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce716e275a808a008003","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qeef3f357f8ddd7b6100a","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":934,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-27T23:56:33.625Z","text":"这里面有什么问题吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q501be024b2dce4929e52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeef3f357f8ddd7b6100a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q501be024b2dce4929e52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q9d7059a1b357e25122b8","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":935,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T23:57:26.108Z","text":"如果Gtv无罪是因为一件虎，gclub也应该无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeef3f357f8ddd7b6100a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d7059a1b357e25122b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeef3f357f8ddd7b6100a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qc44c5fa99bbc4dbed9ac","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":936,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-27T23:58:05.728Z","text":"他好像g系列还投资了其他的，gdollar，喜交所也有钱吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc44c5fa99bbc4dbed9ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q46861b91c5013191f9d7","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":937,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-27T23:59:59.562Z","text":"只要把破产法庭不让被告说话就判令g系列实体及相关资金属于被告个人财产这一重大程序不正义呈现到刑事法庭卷宗，然后就是刑事法庭判令虚假登记妨碍司法，可以用这个打掉检方的受害人证据，更重要的是推翻检方说的它们收到了数千人举报（更何况那明显就是检方在撒谎）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46861b91c5013191f9d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q48a52c18a05a0b82b984","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":938,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T00:00:20.232Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  也就是说 老郭这次 没有抓到任何一个在中共国被国安逼着报刑事案假案的人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48a52c18a05a0b82b984","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q8c8e75eeee3d85c92abf","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":939,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T00:00:39.845Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  我现在[屏蔽词]又开始怀疑 刑事案初始报案人 根本就没有 就他妈是债权人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c8e75eeee3d85c92abf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qd012c4c7349e12d52e93","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":940,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T00:00:54.507Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  如果有的话 老郭估计可以抓到像易健虎这样d","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd012c4c7349e12d52e93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q259563fefe5ab4bd9ed6","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":941,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T00:02:18.426Z","text":"只要把这些呈现到法庭卷宗里，除非枉法，否则只能驳回起诉或者无罪释放。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q259563fefe5ab4bd9ed6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qe0d227f5bc8319de8ca4","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":942,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T00:03:57.645Z","text":"非常清晰的路线","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46861b91c5013191f9d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0d227f5bc8319de8ca4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46861b91c5013191f9d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q95b28e6250ed2885966e","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":943,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-28T00:05:33.623Z","text":"如果是因为一件虎，那他投资的所有东西都应该无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95b28e6250ed2885966e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q9b878fb8ea2e79773d80","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":944,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-28T00:05:52.317Z","text":"一件虎的经历不能否定其他受害人的证词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b878fb8ea2e79773d80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q7e221f7baa18f6083ad5","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":945,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-28T00:06:14.282Z","text":"只要有其他受害人说他们是真的被骗了，那一件虎说啥也没用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e221f7baa18f6083ad5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q9ed3afb158aaf01544dc","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":946,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T00:10:13.353Z","text":"因为用虚假登记妨碍司法打掉检方的受害人登记表后，在呈堂证供里，就几乎没有受害人，检方就肯定拿不出几千人报案的证据，因为那是它们的谎言。到这一步就够了，你检方两年多了，找不到几个受害人，这种程序不正义一目了然。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf69cf106f1a1edd826fe","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ed3afb158aaf01544dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q72eb39624a8081ac2581","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":947,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-28T00:11:56.233Z","text":"受害人不是最重要的，欺诈罪不一定要有受害人。但是初始报案人很重要。检方没有撒谎，确实有几千报案人。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ed3afb158aaf01544dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72eb39624a8081ac2581","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ed3afb158aaf01544dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q88134d1b3670ae559d44","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":948,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T00:15:35.087Z","text":"应该是没有，如果有早就被黄河边等人拿出来说事了，中共拨一个亿的资金，到安排假举报的人那里，可能只有几万美金，不可能安排得了几千个假举报。就算它们真安排了这么多假举报，我们也尽了最大努力。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb372ed083f60d6a08547","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88134d1b3670ae559d44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q58718ee744d98ba5e4b6","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":949,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T00:16:28.158Z","text":"4月法院的平台又登记了一波","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ed3afb158aaf01544dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58718ee744d98ba5e4b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ed3afb158aaf01544dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q4bf8e92dbd1f0cfc191a","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":950,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-28T00:16:34.033Z","text":"靠第三方推翻案件是不可能的，所以不一定从绝对翻案的角度考虑这件事。就是从合法要钱的角度去考虑，然后翻案就靠郭律师就行了。郭律师如果能从第三方动议里找到什么灵感，那是他们的事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bf8e92dbd1f0cfc191a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qfb6ad9a8ac5389b132c0","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":951,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-28T00:17:26.864Z","text":"因为你们知道是很少的，所以现在只能猜。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb6ad9a8ac5389b132c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q1eba5869e5d302264f8f","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":952,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T00:21:19.666Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］  ［用户 him***］  ［用户 reb***］ ［用户 hon***］ ［用户 chu***］  那我就专门打债权人了 盖尔那个靠你们了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1eba5869e5d302264f8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qb2344f5872b119c09007","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":953,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T01:05:33.146Z","text":"可能我对本案的理解跟大家有些不一样的地方。首先本案的立案基础是数千人举报加破产法庭令两者缺一不可，在陪审团裁决前打掉一个，陪审团裁决后才必须打掉两个。然后，当第三方为了保护自己的财产要求法院驳回luc代表的债权人的主张后，就是法院推翻了破产法庭令作为呈堂证供,要求法院驳回检方的受害人名单后，就打掉了检方收到几千举报的说法。法官可以驳回，只要语言组织得让它找不到瑕疵，驳回就是枉法。rico共谋犯组织的受害人登记，债权登记等所有登记均是严重违反司法伦理，它要是公然驳回那就是枉法。没有人提出你可以不管，有人提出，你就是不能驳回。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2344f5872b119c09007","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qc13a665d6d328350a2f4","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":954,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T01:06:39.168Z","text":"然后我认为陪审团就是个橡皮图章，大家好像愿意相信陪审团可能有问题，但不至于到橡皮图章的地步。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc13a665d6d328350a2f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qdfcd247e1409eed1f56f","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":955,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T01:13:40.443Z","text":"投资A10的以第三方上去 把共谋犯 农场主 打 成主谋  你觉得如何？（老郭被抓后 农场主以郭的名义继续骗投资）","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc216243655dbb316d5b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfcd247e1409eed1f56f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q89f8393c4d8447b0b8ec","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":956,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T01:14:16.313Z","text":"那得另立案件吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfcd247e1409eed1f56f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89f8393c4d8447b0b8ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfcd247e1409eed1f56f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q398c9e356ba0e0e42822","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":957,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T01:15:18.864Z","text":"那也就是说  这次 只能解绑 郭  没办法rico 农场主？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89f8393c4d8447b0b8ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q398c9e356ba0e0e42822","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89f8393c4d8447b0b8ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qa641483a54bb795c7019","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":958,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T01:16:33.304Z","text":"我没有任何登记，但是你们谁上去说盖尔虚假代表你了 我可以抓着 追问 不给登记的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1eba5869e5d302264f8f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa641483a54bb795c7019","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1eba5869e5d302264f8f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qf09e64f761ed717747b8","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":959,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T01:18:30.847Z","text":"我觉得郭解绑 其他不变","edited":false,"reply_to":"q398c9e356ba0e0e42822","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf09e64f761ed717747b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q398c9e356ba0e0e42822","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q3516f2d24579f5f7e83e","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":960,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T01:19:33.508Z","text":"破产法庭严重程序不公把投资者的钱判决成被告私人财产，然后检方以此为基础构建虚假指控，只要把破产法庭令打掉，就没有实体犯罪，只有陪审团的有诈骗意图，可以给到轻判的机会，可能那些法官都特别任性，会按照诈骗意图的最高处罚判。但我相信，检方一定没有数千举报人的证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q398c9e356ba0e0e42822","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3516f2d24579f5f7e83e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q398c9e356ba0e0e42822","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q5b1101e373c0ccb8bfab","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":961,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T01:21:05.527Z","text":"我为这么认为。就是rico在，所以这个网里的都逃不掉。我也比大家更乐观，我相信后面有fisa法庭令跟着。只是需要有人去推动，这得是被告恢复自由之后。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf09e64f761ed717747b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b1101e373c0ccb8bfab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf09e64f761ed717747b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q8c895e411bd15c00e5a3","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":962,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T01:23:34.043Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  我们现在就赌 检方除了债权人 没有初始受害人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c895e411bd15c00e5a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qc936ffbe6438fe84e28e","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":963,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T01:32:23.944Z","text":"我的理解可能不一样，破产法庭说投资者钱是被告个人财产，检方就捏造：诶，这些投资者的钱，怎么就变成了你的私人财产的！你一定是通过诈骗和洗钱的手段把投资者的钱变成你的个人财产的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2c6eddf2e4a0fc1505d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc936ffbe6438fe84e28e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q0c1b2279809c15b03fc1","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":964,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T01:38:34.608Z","text":"至于您说的签洗币协议的事情，那都是灭共演员们传出来的，可能需要验证。315之后，我们与被告应该完全被隔绝了。所有的灭共演员们的信息都得重新审视，相反，可以从黄河边之流的砸郭信息里推测出一些真实情况。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c1b2279809c15b03fc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q95f47e8c2ac87e7fdca6","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":965,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:20:54.085Z","text":"https://x.com/mischaedm/status/1813386504384991356?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95f47e8c2ac87e7fdca6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q16e21ad01eeff92e143a","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":966,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:21:15.953Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  起诉书受害人还有链接？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16e21ad01eeff92e143a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q5c9d6d6790cea37c248f","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":967,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-28T03:52:19.445Z","text":"文件10-1，检方替法官拟好的命令，文件11，法官下达的命令里面有受害者登记链接","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c9d6d6790cea37c248f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qeb5415fc45285c05fc56","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":968,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:53:19.515Z","text":"哦哦 那也是315后","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c9d6d6790cea37c248f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb5415fc45285c05fc56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c9d6d6790cea37c248f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q18e3327248408af33237","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":969,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:54:25.990Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ ［用户 reb***］  你们看有没有可能这样","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18e3327248408af33237","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qf4874659fca324c99aeb","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":970,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:54:42.816Z","text":"几千受害人 先假报案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4874659fca324c99aeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q71d45bebcff5d3f1faac","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":971,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:54:49.708Z","text":"然后老郭被抓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71d45bebcff5d3f1faac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q613e1941a44d4a88d3d9","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":972,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:54:52.551Z","text":"资金被冻结","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q613e1941a44d4a88d3d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q344a1fb497f9d96c660d","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":973,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T03:55:16.177Z","text":"然后成真了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q344a1fb497f9d96c660d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q9d562abd38e84b6808a1","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":974,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-28T03:56:11.849Z","text":"资金2022年9月十月就冻结了!喜交所汉密尔顿那些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d562abd38e84b6808a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qf955ab1f7018dfd4e4cf","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":975,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:00:15.819Z","text":"那还是有可能 不是债权人报案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d562abd38e84b6808a1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf955ab1f7018dfd4e4cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d562abd38e84b6808a1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qa55a3138b68dc3a6d50b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":976,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:01:28.897Z","text":"债权人可能是触发逮捕  因为起诉书有妨碍司法 他可以以此逮捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa55a3138b68dc3a6d50b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q7345c567dfad45377b12","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":977,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:01:47.728Z","text":"作为证据的受害人名单，不能是网名，至少是实名，还要附有转账证明自己确实有投资才行，所以这个链接不可能收集到那么多有效举报人。如果这上面有几千个人，哪怕是假的，只要律师不作为，第三方可能就没办法。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4874659fca324c99aeb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7345c567dfad45377b12","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4874659fca324c99aeb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q3b84702afa6abf63695c","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":978,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-28T04:03:56.348Z","text":"检方能收集几百个受害者就非常牛逼了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b84702afa6abf63695c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qa08c3d34855fbc4af1fa","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":979,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:05:08.736Z","text":"那有没有可能这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b84702afa6abf63695c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa08c3d34855fbc4af1fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b84702afa6abf63695c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q8b333f09db044b153005","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":980,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:05:20.718Z","text":"本来就有受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b333f09db044b153005","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q8917f462514721563855","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":981,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:05:36.418Z","text":"但债权人触发逮捕！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8917f462514721563855","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q4fc8b5d253d4b6627011","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":982,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:06:04.747Z","text":"因为本来有干扰司法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc8b5d253d4b6627011","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q71c7c72a628105ae4d11","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":983,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:19:01.875Z","text":"就是破产法庭做实被告把投资者的钱变成了自己的钱这一法律事实，检方在捏造说有几千举报，在逮捕之前的大陪审团上让大陪审团同意抓捕，然后再用大陪审团的决议向法庭申请逮捕令。由于逮捕前的大陪审团听证允许传闻证据，在加上实际操作中这个基本流于形式，很容易就通过。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf14d5a5c6eba1ef10986","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71c7c72a628105ae4d11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q608eeb108c799d973591","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":984,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:23:55.223Z","text":"在陪审团裁决前打掉破产法庭令就可以放人。但陪审团裁决后,打掉破产法庭令只能打掉实体犯罪，打不掉陪审团说你有欺诈意图这一事实裁定。所以必须打掉检方说的几千举报者才行，而刑事法庭的虚假登记妨碍司法判令就可以打掉检方的几千举报者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q381affae655072bea86f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q608eeb108c799d973591","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q4bb2491c888c408c651a","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":985,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T04:26:09.499Z","text":"检方捏造 这个说法不可以用在美国司法身上。但是他们可以设局让 你自己跳进去。 谋局 对他们来说是手段。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71c7c72a628105ae4d11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bb2491c888c408c651a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71c7c72a628105ae4d11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q5103e8e25b3f49ae055e","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":986,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:27:39.896Z","text":"在法庭上当然不能用这种术语，用专业法律词汇就行。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4bb2491c888c408c651a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5103e8e25b3f49ae055e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bb2491c888c408c651a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qc08dbce1cfb16defdb1c","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":987,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:29:01.477Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  这样的话 第三方就可以翻案了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q608eeb108c799d973591","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc08dbce1cfb16defdb1c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q608eeb108c799d973591","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qe33718e1e42bc764e79b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":988,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:29:13.141Z","text":"债权人实在是槽点太多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe33718e1e42bc764e79b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q00a4b013f701bd9f8e16","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":989,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T04:31:25.588Z","text":"他们的证据是有的。但是获得证据的手段可能很卑鄙。这种没法去法庭说。只能自己吃亏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5103e8e25b3f49ae055e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00a4b013f701bd9f8e16","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5103e8e25b3f49ae055e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q7bb163f8a99701972dcc","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":990,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T04:33:09.247Z","text":"所有富人都知道。司法在后面追着他们跑。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bb163f8a99701972dcc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q822064d5b2002a562d2b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":991,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:35:01.345Z","text":"那是律师的事情。第三方的能做的就是把现在呈堂证供上没有多少受害人这一程序不正义就在法庭卷宗里。你之前说有几千受害者举报，两年多过去了，呈堂证供里没有受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00a4b013f701bd9f8e16","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q822064d5b2002a562d2b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00a4b013f701bd9f8e16","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q8941d8cb092226bf8b34","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":992,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-28T04:39:04.710Z","text":"青藤 ava 有呈堂证供吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q822064d5b2002a562d2b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8941d8cb092226bf8b34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q822064d5b2002a562d2b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qfeaec613be49cbedab51","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":993,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:41:14.156Z","text":"虚假登记妨碍司法可以打掉rico同谋提供的受害人登记等相关登记。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8941d8cb092226bf8b34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeaec613be49cbedab51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8941d8cb092226bf8b34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q62208353b410bfcd94ce","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":994,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:43:45.723Z","text":"关键检方的那个链接里登记的举报人有多少。那里一定没有多少，如果远地于检方说的几千，那就是程序不正义。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62208353b410bfcd94ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q54674e5cdd5537d0971c","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":995,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:51:21.946Z","text":"要打掉检方几千受害人说法的目的是因为要通过刑事法庭的程序不正义来推翻陪审团说被告有欺诈意图这一事实裁定。你检方不公布，但法官必须要知道啊，但如果检方那个链接里收集到的有效举报人原地与于几千人，法官就就只能枉法判刑。这就是第三方要达到的目的，不需要它公布。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5cb7c8763d392c768fab","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54674e5cdd5537d0971c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q30f66f26a27bb907d812","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":996,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:51:58.235Z","text":"法官和检方一起的 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54674e5cdd5537d0971c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30f66f26a27bb907d812","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54674e5cdd5537d0971c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"qe292f66902c668048207","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":997,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:52:02.240Z","text":"法官不会说的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe292f66902c668048207","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q1e53afbd2e4d603e667b","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":998,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T04:53:56.727Z","text":"法官就是要枉法，那本来就没办法。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe292f66902c668048207","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e53afbd2e4d603e667b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe292f66902c668048207","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q188eb65aa11234e8eba0","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":999,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:54:24.890Z","text":"我认为 你不能指望法官大发善心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q188eb65aa11234e8eba0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"},{"id":"q66ac999a0140609b7f6d","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":1000,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T04:54:36.180Z","text":"而是要把法官打到不得不说yes","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ac999a0140609b7f6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000018","next_batch_id":"batch-000020"}