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不需要法官同意，盖尔引用CVRA 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你想","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce1fed82420785bca0e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q97e2540e5cbf8f009f7b","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":631,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T20:29:51.711Z","text":"长岛用你们捐的钱 对付我们啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97e2540e5cbf8f009f7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q55629deb61b906aa2e85","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":632,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T20:30:33.272Z","text":"你在自己跟长岛九指妖打官司？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97e2540e5cbf8f009f7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55629deb61b906aa2e85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97e2540e5cbf8f009f7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd0553080e360bfe5e1f9","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":633,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T20:30:35.543Z","text":"你要想 入局 必须先交钱 [屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0553080e360bfe5e1f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q9173be8a301d0386a61b","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":634,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T20:31:20.313Z","text":"是啊 我们这边 maywind 受害人 全部都是自己在跟他们打啊 他们却用你们捐的钱 对付我们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55629deb61b906aa2e85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9173be8a301d0386a61b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55629deb61b906aa2e85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd6e6bb37869b40928d99","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":635,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T20:31:39.225Z","text":"我前面说了好几次了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6e6bb37869b40928d99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qe88ea96b4362b8d6a65e","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":636,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-29T20:31:49.499Z","text":"Geyer在法庭文件里面，从来没有提到过Geyer和喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场之间的关系，从来没有提到Geyer和喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场是怎么沟通的。通过欺诈得到的协议，Geyer不知情吗？投资者分布在全世界各地，如果背后没有任何人或者机构推动，Geyer是怎么和这些投资者签署的协议啊？这些投资者，很多人和我一样，不懂法律，不懂英语，甚至到目前，很多投资者根本就不知道从哪里看法庭文件，请Geyer给法庭作出解释，Geyer是怎么和分布全世界各地的数千人签署的协议，Geyer是怎么和不懂法律不懂英语的投资者沟通的。请Geyer给法庭作出解释，为什么隐瞒Geyer和喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场之间的关系，为什么隐瞒协议的签署过程。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe88ea96b4362b8d6a65e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q47008aee87f9cb77d135","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":637,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T20:32:40.833Z","text":"当时不是联盟在跟may wind打吗？我没参与所以没关注过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9173be8a301d0386a61b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47008aee87f9cb77d135","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9173be8a301d0386a61b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qda52a7a2253742452626","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":638,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T20:33:00.169Z","text":"哎 没有啊 一直都是长岛在骗你们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47008aee87f9cb77d135","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda52a7a2253742452626","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47008aee87f9cb77d135","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q5ef41a6ba274da6947ec","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":639,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T20:33:11.800Z","text":"左手倒右手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ef41a6ba274da6947ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q01a70dcd99883a74db2c","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":640,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T20:33:35.911Z","text":"这事他跟九指妖是一伙的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01a70dcd99883a74db2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd5288d189693c9b66879","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":641,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T20:35:24.598Z","text":"这个喜交所邮件和联盟公告里都说的很清楚，盖尔是完全独立于喜交所的，让他代理都是用户自发的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe88ea96b4362b8d6a65e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5288d189693c9b66879","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe88ea96b4362b8d6a65e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q83761fa24f1bb423e08a","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":642,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:36:01.335Z","text":"https://x.com/louismaga777/status/1950212845540700649?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83761fa24f1bb423e08a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qc4357dd6a8326efdfc25","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":643,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:36:14.400Z","text":"機器人這麼回答，大家怎麼看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4357dd6a8326efdfc25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qb4a7ab9054a9ab734dc5","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":644,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-29T20:37:07.124Z","text":"Geyer在法庭文件里面说过多次，这些投资者明确表明，不是郭文贵的受害者，是郭文贵的支持者。但是，为什么Geyer在文件478直接引用犯罪受害者权利法案啊？请Geyer给作出解释，这是不是对数千喜马拉雅交易所客户的欺骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4a7ab9054a9ab734dc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q4e3ca6247ea65741ed2c","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":645,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T20:37:48.809Z","text":"虚拟货币这一块 可以减轻","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4357dd6a8326efdfc25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e3ca6247ea65741ed2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4357dd6a8326efdfc25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q4862637d8abd8d10108b","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":646,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T20:37:55.859Z","text":"G系列还有很多其他的投资项目，就算没了喜交所也不能完全脱罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4357dd6a8326efdfc25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4862637d8abd8d10108b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4357dd6a8326efdfc25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qe99a0a0ee57b7483b5be","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":647,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T20:38:04.586Z","text":"但是还有gclub 电话欺诈什么的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe99a0a0ee57b7483b5be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q54c1d64049b0f44be2db","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":648,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T20:38:31.324Z","text":"那是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe99a0a0ee57b7483b5be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54c1d64049b0f44be2db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe99a0a0ee57b7483b5be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q37c3f6b7131129c84d5c","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":649,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:39:07.556Z","text":"對，還有電信欺詐洗錢等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37c3f6b7131129c84d5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q4ac493047d6d3eb24ae7","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":650,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:40:58.529Z","text":"那就是说Genius bill以后，没有刑事案，只有民事案？常识来说，不可能啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83761fa24f1bb423e08a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ac493047d6d3eb24ae7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83761fa24f1bb423e08a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qe17ee8fa9dd5ca63681d","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":651,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:41:19.007Z","text":"只要是数字资产，都没有刑事案了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe17ee8fa9dd5ca63681d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q99dcb639b2d797daa350","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":652,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:41:29.878Z","text":"不是这个意思吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99dcb639b2d797daa350","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q834b7c4738d165f80231","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":653,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:42:14.627Z","text":"喜幣的性質看下來新法案之後可能真的只是民事了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q834b7c4738d165f80231","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q4c1916c8a635bb2b5f70","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":654,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:42:37.220Z","text":"喜交所被起诉不是因为喜交所被认为是洗钱，而是喜交所被认为是欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c1916c8a635bb2b5f70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q2f65ca8e52facaee861e","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":655,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:43:09.211Z","text":"其他g系列嫌疑還在吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f65ca8e52facaee861e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q6383949b3b2aa50f80ab","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":656,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:43:27.000Z","text":"喜交所这个不是政策问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6383949b3b2aa50f80ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q2ec298a63e8deb5917a9","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":657,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:44:49.293Z","text":"這可能要看是否適用於新法案之後的監管配套了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6383949b3b2aa50f80ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec298a63e8deb5917a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6383949b3b2aa50f80ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q5ec25188fa1b4aa6f0bb","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":658,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:45:52.407Z","text":"即使是盖尔也没有在他的动议里提出genius bill到底对喜交所有什么影响。我怎么觉得genius bill根本和喜交所这件事无关？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ec25188fa1b4aa6f0bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q891e5c229e317b288593","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":659,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:46:33.157Z","text":"盖尔就乱联想","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q891e5c229e317b288593","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q5d403418fe935c83b29e","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":660,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:47:51.738Z","text":"用大麻举例，以前种大麻违法，现在种大麻不违法了。但是你要是用大麻骗人，还是违法。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d403418fe935c83b29e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q9ad3adab87933fe75654","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":661,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:47:54.138Z","text":"電信欺詐，洗錢指向包括所有g系列，打掉一個是一個？看法官吧，717不一定有实质作用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ad3adab87933fe75654","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qe02408d46a491eb97a66","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":662,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:48:46.619Z","text":"以前用数字货币被认为是洗钱，现在用数字货币不被认为是洗钱了。但是你用数字货币诈骗，还是违法。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe02408d46a491eb97a66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q1daec48a25a313b353af","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":663,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:49:33.360Z","text":"洗钱不是因为喜交所，洗钱是因为郭申请破产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1daec48a25a313b353af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q31539af11d616d085a40","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":664,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:50:06.242Z","text":"洗钱是因为农场开了几千个账户转账，和喜交所有什么关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31539af11d616d085a40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qabde1fb75f969ea22d25","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":665,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T20:50:08.672Z","text":"只是数字货币方面吧，其他的欺诈还是刑事犯罪a","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ac493047d6d3eb24ae7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabde1fb75f969ea22d25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ac493047d6d3eb24ae7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qe56bbb3af22bec5fc922","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":666,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:50:46.652Z","text":"但盖尔的目的是喜交所资产，老郭欺诈案他肯定不考虑的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe02408d46a491eb97a66","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe56bbb3af22bec5fc922","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe02408d46a491eb97a66","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qfcf9c059ea2544a91e64","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":667,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:51:42.373Z","text":"所以genius bill对郭案有什么影响，几乎为零吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe56bbb3af22bec5fc922","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcf9c059ea2544a91e64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe56bbb3af22bec5fc922","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qebbbd1fe3f1bb9531bc4","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":668,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:51:46.246Z","text":"法官驳回一样穿帮","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00bd7e21e487dc02bf05","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebbbd1fe3f1bb9531bc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q01530ef135dca33d96ca","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":669,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:52:06.976Z","text":"法官从来不理盖尔的任何动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01530ef135dca33d96ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q488ca3d59d996eda07c6","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":670,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T20:52:15.713Z","text":"喜交所本身本来就没有被起诉，被起诉的是郭利用喜交所洗钱，对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ec25188fa1b4aa6f0bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q488ca3d59d996eda07c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ec25188fa1b4aa6f0bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q84091fabb8ff36ab36a7","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":671,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:52:38.414Z","text":"因为盖尔的动议就是一个目的，要钱。最后检方给他钱就完了。不需要理他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84091fabb8ff36ab36a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd44f6e9e21908797939e","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":672,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T20:52:42.447Z","text":"喜交所机构并不违法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q488ca3d59d996eda07c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd44f6e9e21908797939e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q488ca3d59d996eda07c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q3024016936adfcd47d8c","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":673,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:52:44.892Z","text":"他上法庭就是表演","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3024016936adfcd47d8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qeef7de26393617a348d4","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":674,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-29T20:52:55.292Z","text":"Geyer涉嫌共谋\n\n根据检方的起诉书，文件382，文件388，文件395，喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场属于可能的被告。诈骗全世界各地的thousands投资者，被告郭文贵是不可能一个人完成这些的，喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场，检方认为是郭文贵的诈骗工具。郭文贵罪名的核心，是共谋，那么谁是共谋犯啊？通过法庭文件，可以得出喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场是嫌疑共谋犯。Geyer是专业律师，请你作出解释，喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场是不是嫌疑共谋犯，Geyer和嫌疑共谋犯的喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场到底有什么关系。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeef7de26393617a348d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qbcbfec853690de2c8124","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":675,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:52:57.995Z","text":"他的最终目的是要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcbfec853690de2c8124","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qdc77bd6f5e908f5eb101","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":676,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:53:05.383Z","text":"要钱给他钱不就完了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc77bd6f5e908f5eb101","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q43747ed174b38ebdaad4","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":677,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:53:09.477Z","text":"他发什么动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43747ed174b38ebdaad4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qfc6cb993129927b54d48","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":678,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T20:53:15.256Z","text":"又没有纠纷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"u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诈误导数千名投资者签署协议，是不是嫌疑共谋犯从事的犯罪活动啊？检方应该作出解释，对于喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场组织投资者签署协议的可能的犯罪活动，检方是不是知情，如果检方知情，这有没有可能是Brady证据，为什么盖尔第一次来到法庭要求赎回资金，检方没有提到Geyer的协议涉嫌欺诈，为什么Geyer后面来到法庭要求赎回资金，检方不再反对Geyer,并且对Geyer协议背后的欺诈甚至涉嫌共谋，检方没有作出任何回应。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66902ae04129bb0378b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qf6159a694c7730f96274","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":712,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T21:21:42.049Z","text":"我靠，luc看了以后不敢进了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6159a694c7730f96274","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q01c0c0f8e30b835c33b9","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":713,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:22:08.974Z","text":"这个受害者能提吗，这么写看起来跟你保护资产关系不大","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb66902ae04129bb0378b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01c0c0f8e30b835c33b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66902ae04129bb0378b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qb4f3b662fb31f82a8f77","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":714,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T21:23:47.652Z","text":"Luc想，我不要钱了还不行吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f3b662fb31f82a8f77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q9af8cad1def5b613e8e4","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":715,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T21:24:39.077Z","text":"CVRA好像可以提很多事情，比如不被罪犯继续侵害的权利，但是具体要查一下。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9af8cad1def5b613e8e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q72964dbd8dbcd693ea58","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":716,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-29T21:28:47.456Z","text":"结论\n\n我请求法官命令Geyer,喜马拉雅交易所公司，让他们作出解释，喜马拉雅交易所数千客户协议是怎么签署的，他们和喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场到底是什么关系，他们和喜马拉雅联盟喜马拉雅农场有过哪些沟通或者合作。\n我请求法官命令检方作出回应，检方对喜马拉雅交易所数千客户协议的签署过程是否知情。\n我请求法官，作废喜马拉雅交易所数千客户协议，驳回Geyer。\n我请求法官命令检方，调查喜马拉雅交易所数千客户协议背后的涉嫌共谋犯罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72964dbd8dbcd693ea58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qbe0364de32a5b291e0b6","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":717,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:31:21.861Z","text":"涉及检方这段，你还要斟酌一下，或者让Ai改改，别让法官觉得你越权","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb66902ae04129bb0378b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe0364de32a5b291e0b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66902ae04129bb0378b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q204c1b701747e559710a","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":718,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T21:31:41.951Z","text":"受害者能不能提布雷迪应该查一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb66902ae04129bb0378b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q204c1b701747e559710a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66902ae04129bb0378b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qcbf9241dd3dc5d13df9e","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":719,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:32:59.517Z","text":"你现在的情况，出手要谨慎，不能再让托雷斯抓住话柄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbf9241dd3dc5d13df9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qfd4bae0f781e2b365fb2","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":720,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:33:43.319Z","text":"马上就要乱战了，这个老太太会不会耍性子也难说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd4bae0f781e2b365fb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q41f167609a64a24d8d82","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":721,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:34:02.277Z","text":"女人很难保持理性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41f167609a64a24d8d82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q55c909c93e640aa41a1c"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ntp***］ 法官说你性别歧视","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55c909c93e640aa41a1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q949f6b5b6298e6de918f","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":723,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T21:34:49.149Z","text":"那是个左派法官 哈哈 确实","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55c909c93e640aa41a1c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q949f6b5b6298e6de918f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55c909c93e640aa41a1c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qb0065b7ae0c40089cc96","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":724,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:35:03.250Z","text":"就说她了，咋地？在法庭外，她屁也不是😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55c909c93e640aa41a1c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0065b7ae0c40089cc96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55c909c93e640aa41a1c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qc4998f381cf8455b62be","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":725,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:36:10.151Z","text":"她滚蛋迟早的事，奥巴驴已经要完了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q949f6b5b6298e6de918f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4998f381cf8455b62be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q949f6b5b6298e6de918f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd96eefee0c2e7d645dd1","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":726,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T21:37:21.276Z","text":"奧巴馬司法部一點動靜都沒，邦迪和她哪個哥一條褲子的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4998f381cf8455b62be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd96eefee0c2e7d645dd1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4998f381cf8455b62be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q1eb0147d471edad7cc88","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":727,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:37:50.415Z","text":"再不动，川普是不是就有理由废了邦迪那个娘们了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd96eefee0c2e7d645dd1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1eb0147d471edad7cc88","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd96eefee0c2e7d645dd1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q18b14ab30ee648a7298f","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":728,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T21:38:05.982Z","text":"很難的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1eb0147d471edad7cc88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18b14ab30ee648a7298f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1eb0147d471edad7cc88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qa56e660a2441e60d11fa","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":729,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:38:50.480Z","text":"从她上来那天就不看好她，她上来的太顺利了，鸦雀无声，差点就弹冠相庆了，但他们忍住了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa56e660a2441e60d11fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd5b66383e58a4fdedd64","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":730,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T21:39:23.341Z","text":"她哥是老郭的前律師","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5b66383e58a4fdedd64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qc7895ea39759339a55cc","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":731,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T21:39:37.225Z","text":"普衡合夥人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7895ea39759339a55cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q674478813476e52aefda","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":732,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T21:39:44.481Z","text":"这个决定是谁让川普作出的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5b66383e58a4fdedd64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674478813476e52aefda","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5b66383e58a4fdedd64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q38226cafe0ad5ddd475a","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":733,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-29T21:40:36.344Z","text":"本來是馬特蓋茨，被莫須有罪名搞了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q674478813476e52aefda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38226cafe0ad5ddd475a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674478813476e52aefda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"i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［用户 chu***］ 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rui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q362886b7a3847db7900a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q1e83cf0a6079b57a66bd","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":756,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-29T23:05:20.746Z","text":"tained 英文 😁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e83cf0a6079b57a66bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q260591cde7188785445a","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":757,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-29T23:19:34.318Z","text":"朱贝贝也是CVRA吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q752dd1c8c5d90015f18c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q260591cde7188785445a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q752dd1c8c5d90015f18c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q46460aab3ad4fd7eef5b","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":758,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T23:20:44.129Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q260591cde7188785445a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46460aab3ad4fd7eef5b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q260591cde7188785445a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q7a7c4d4f5ca07597b6e0","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":759,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T23:21:21.538Z","text":"她没有引用任何法条，她那个动议很像独立的民事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a7c4d4f5ca07597b6e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q150cd7ea2da7b043becf","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":760,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-29T23:50:29.967Z","text":"发给法庭的动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q150cd7ea2da7b043becf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q6d68fc2f377ccdd678e0","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":761,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T00:00:12.611Z","text":"基于新法律要钱，盖尔的代理费是不是相当巨大？当时凑齐5000人签名说是为了救七哥才提交的，也不知道有代理费一说（联盟当时说由联盟出钱？）。\n现在因为法律的出台，这货是不是就能捡漏拿到代理费了？我可不想给他钱赚。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d68fc2f377ccdd678e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q591b9105dd829ea6699f","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":762,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T00:10:27.908Z","text":"这些说得很有条理。\n这钱要是返回来了，盖尔的巨额律师费是不是就能拿到了？\n但如果这次动议明确了盖尔欺诈属实，那他还能拿代理费吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q591b9105dd829ea6699f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qe16b76f01b6dfa9901cc","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":763,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T00:14:19.270Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ ［用户 sar***］ \n我们是否还有必要单独向盖尔发邮件，以解除当初的凑5000人救七哥的代理？-------虽然盖尔和联盟欺骗了这些投资者。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe16b76f01b6dfa9901cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q41503eec05644e392025","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":764,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T00:16:26.735Z","text":"📥 总结表\n\n关键领域 GENIUS 法案的规定\n\n稳定币发行 只有持牌发行人可发行\n储备支持 必须 100% 用美元或流动性资产支持\n监管 联邦/州监管框架；双重监管模式\n透明度 每月公开储备构成\n反洗钱与合规 受《银行保密法》反洗钱标准约束\n消费者保护 禁止误导宣传；破产时用户享有优先索赔权\n市场影响 稳定币合法化，推动加密市场增长，增加国债需求","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41503eec05644e392025","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qcc2bbf223b10e2e22cd4","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":765,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T00:16:52.534Z","text":"Genius法案包括反洗钱啊👆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc2bbf223b10e2e22cd4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q6ba69d52ebc389c8e5dc","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":766,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T00:21:38.753Z","text":"这盖尔是要被干废了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ba69d52ebc389c8e5dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q7019464efb061d7e367d","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":767,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T00:23:28.302Z","text":"靠，瑞恩用机器人美化之后，不像chunk的风格了，但是确实读起来通顺好多😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q150cd7ea2da7b043becf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7019464efb061d7e367d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q150cd7ea2da7b043becf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd95743aeea696e912a84","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T00:59:32.335Z","text":"小羊时评谈717动议了😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd95743aeea696e912a84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q73c195e186a9e4b00a17","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":769,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-30T01:00:12.203Z","text":"动议谁都可以写对吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c195e186a9e4b00a17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qc90fbbff98f6dafe6991","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":770,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:00:17.717Z","text":"小羊说最后钱都会被luc拿走","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc90fbbff98f6dafe6991","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qbe15cccc5252624156b4","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":771,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:00:28.190Z","text":"因为检方说这些钱是郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe15cccc5252624156b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qdd53db3cf78d714e113d","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":772,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:01:01.648Z","text":"小羊还说喜交所的钱都应该解冻，因为天才法案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd53db3cf78d714e113d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q8ce6494007338484c911","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":773,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T01:01:14.267Z","text":"典型的出口转内销","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd53db3cf78d714e113d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ce6494007338484c911","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd53db3cf78d714e113d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q5ae7cff4b6e8070cfc15","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":774,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:03:34.738Z","text":"第三方G系列投资人引用CVRA或者853n","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73c195e186a9e4b00a17","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ae7cff4b6e8070cfc15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c195e186a9e4b00a17","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q734fb9d5209409d7665d","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":775,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:15:27.173Z","text":"为啥爱郭贼问机器人的答案，和我问机器人的答案，完全不同？\n\nGENIUS 法案是否有利于郭文贵案件？\n\n🧾 GENIUS 法案的内容\n\n它旨在对美国的稳定币发行进行全国性监管，主要包括：\n\n明确定义“支付稳定币”，要求以现金或国债 1:1 足额储备；\n\n建立双重监管架构，大型发行方（资产 ≥100 亿美元）由美联储监管，小型发行方由州监管机构监管；\n\n对透明度、反洗钱、消费者保护和紧急处置机制设立标准（来源：stanfordreview.org）。\n\n\n目标：在保持金融科技竞争力的同时，加强监管明确性并推动稳定币的采用（来源：stanfordreview.org，benmilne.com）。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🚫 GENIUS 法案不涉及的内容\n\n它与刑事案件、民事诉讼或正在进行的执法调查无关。\n\n它对郭文贵（又名 Miles Guo 或 Ho Wan Kwok）或其在美国的法律案件没有直接影响。郭文贵案件涉及 GTV、G Club、喜马拉雅交易所等相关实体的涉嫌欺诈、证券违规及洗钱，由美国纽约南区联邦检察官办公室及美国证监会（SEC）主导起诉，完全与稳定币监管政策无关（来源：justice.gov，sec.gov）。\n\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 总结\n\n问题 回答\n\nGENIUS 法案是否对郭文贵的案件有利？ 没有\n该法案是否与其刑事或民事案件相关？ 没有\nGENIUS 法案的真实内容是什么？ 规范美国稳定币发行与数字支付领域","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q734fb9d5209409d7665d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q4d6906363ba699ece61f","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":776,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:17:30.968Z","text":"又是联盟维稳的手段","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d6906363ba699ece61f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q123708138db5bb7373d2","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":777,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:22:07.233Z","text":"小羊的口径和联盟完全一致了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q123708138db5bb7373d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qb076132c74863fb8bb99","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":778,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-30T01:26:45.694Z","text":"喜交易所的问题是其负责人于建民（也是现在列在明面上的三个被告之一），和一些灭共演员违背锁币协议非法套现，是如此明显的欺诈。然后它们栽赃给被告。所以那个什么天才法案不会产生任何一点影响。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb076132c74863fb8bb99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q52ddd6f48758609b73e5","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":779,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T01:40:43.656Z","text":"小羊估计马上被抛弃了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q123708138db5bb7373d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52ddd6f48758609b73e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q123708138db5bb7373d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q73c818ce4bf181c55d56","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":780,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T01:50:18.556Z","text":"我刚才截图的那个人说有利。是不是不同的ai","edited":false,"reply_to":"q734fb9d5209409d7665d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c818ce4bf181c55d56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q734fb9d5209409d7665d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q3b31fd3703bcf8ca2390","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":781,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:52:19.129Z","text":"也许他们问的问题设置的条件不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b31fd3703bcf8ca2390","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q36642864434414208e42","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":782,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:52:34.676Z","text":"AI 答案和你怎么问有关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36642864434414208e42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qbdecfef1c0d42dbd22a6","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":783,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:52:54.574Z","text":"如果你误导AI ，你的答案就会是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdecfef1c0d42dbd22a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q493d73ab85bc158cefdf","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":784,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:53:40.422Z","text":"你可以自己去grok上问一下：天才法案对郭文贵案件有利吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q493d73ab85bc158cefdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q5796eee90fe051c6eeff","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":785,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:53:47.057Z","text":"就问这句话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5796eee90fe051c6eeff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q8cedec162fc2cf4997b9","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":786,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:53:54.819Z","text":"你看看你的答案是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cedec162fc2cf4997b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q93c85f356eca01524d0a","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":787,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T01:53:59.578Z","text":"欺诈的根结在这吗，非法套现 不锁币","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb076132c74863fb8bb99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93c85f356eca01524d0a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb076132c74863fb8bb99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qa8820b577cd9d97e87c3","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":788,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T01:54:55.221Z","text":"得把问题也一并拿出来完整展示。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q493d73ab85bc158cefdf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8820b577cd9d97e87c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q493d73ab85bc158cefdf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qfe60989d264eddc9f005","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":789,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:56:39.558Z","text":"我问grok的答案：\n\n天才法案对郭文贵案件有利吗\n\n“天才法案”（The Token Taxonomy Act 或类似法案）主要关注数字货币的监管框架，旨在为加密货币提供法律清晰度，例如定义哪些代币不属于证券、规范交易平台等。郭文贵案件的核心是他在美国被控多项欺诈和洗钱罪名，涉及通过虚假投资计划（如GTV传媒集团、喜马拉雅交易所等）从粉丝处骗取超过10亿美元，并将资金用于奢侈品购买等个人用途。\n\n分析“天才法案”对郭文贵案件的影响：法案内容与案件关联：“天才法案”主要针对数字货币的合法性和监管标准，强调合规性、安全性、与实体经济挂钩等。\n郭文贵被指控利用“喜马拉雅币”等加密货币项目进行欺诈，承诺高回报但未履行投资承诺，资金被挪用。\n\n如果“天才法案”要求更严格的数字货币合规性（如反洗钱审查、投资者保护），可能使郭文贵的加密货币操作更难逃避监管，增加其罪行的证据可追溯性。因此，法案可能对其案件不利，而非有利。\n\n案件现状：2024年7月16日，郭文贵在曼哈顿联邦法院被判9项罪名成立，包括敲诈勒索、电信欺诈和洗钱，面临数十年监禁，量刑将于2024年11月19日宣布。\n\n其助理王雁平已于2024年5月认罪，2025年1月被判10年监禁，显示案件证据链较为完整。\n\n现有证据表明，郭文贵的欺诈行为发生在2018-2023年间，而“天才法案”若于2025年通过，属于事后立法，无法追溯适用已判决的案件。\n\nX平台上的相关讨论：一些X帖子（如@hei68077\n, @huli777777\n）提到郭文贵对“天才法案”通过表示高兴，并声称其2021年爆料预测了数字货币的监管趋势。\n然而，这些帖子缺乏具体证据证明法案对其案件有直接帮助，且X上的信息可能包含未经证实的主观观点，不能作为法律分析依据。\n\n结论：“天才法案”对郭文贵案件无直接有利影响。法案的监管框架可能加强加密货币市场的透明度和合规要求，反而可能使郭文贵的欺诈行为更容易被发现和追责。此外，其案件已进入判决阶段，事后立法不影响已有裁决。郭文贵的罪名主要基于欺诈和洗钱事实，与法案的数字货币规范关联度低。如果你需要更详细的法案内容分析或案件细节，请告诉我！\n\n2 posts","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe60989d264eddc9f005","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qa3527f817cd8018dd01d","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":790,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:57:29.463Z","text":"Grok说天才法案对郭文贵案件不利","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3527f817cd8018dd01d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qd760690c50ad232994d6","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":791,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:57:58.069Z","text":"谁说天才法案是有利的？盖尔真的是律师吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd760690c50ad232994d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qc153935dd4b7be8d82ec","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":792,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T01:58:12.152Z","text":"还不如机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc153935dd4b7be8d82ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qe816a89a341795985a34","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":793,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-30T02:05:00.744Z","text":"这个于建民 跟 王艳萍 的 角色 到底 是什么 ？ 也是诈骗犯 还是背锅侠 ［用户 rui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb076132c74863fb8bb99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe816a89a341795985a34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb076132c74863fb8bb99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q689ee8728cb54f1331b6","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":794,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T02:06:22.586Z","text":"这个人问的是评估717文件对郭文贵案件的影响，那grok当然说有利了。因为盖尔的717文件说的都是天才法案如何好。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q689ee8728cb54f1331b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qec2e82317605d5ffe133","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":795,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-30T02:06:40.382Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 我朋友 收到 盖尔 取消代理 邮件了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec2e82317605d5ffe133","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q7684ccccb47f3beb2ee0","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":796,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T02:06:57.966Z","text":"王艳平的认罪，对七哥的案件，有什么样的影响？请全面分析","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe60989d264eddc9f005","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7684ccccb47f3beb2ee0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe60989d264eddc9f005","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"q02831d7524d7268cd9f1","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":797,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T02:07:43.311Z","text":"投资人主动发邮件解除的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec2e82317605d5ffe133","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02831d7524d7268cd9f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec2e82317605d5ffe133","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qfc2860f3ee55bf530f40","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":798,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T02:07:58.661Z","text":"王艳平认罪一定不利郭了，这个不用问机器人都知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc2860f3ee55bf530f40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qc55739c3ca3291c439d4","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":799,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-30T02:08:16.187Z","text":"那gunner [屏蔽词] 还认为 王艳萍 是 诱拐 认罪啊","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5b0d35b7a7fe1baf466c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc55739c3ca3291c439d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"},{"id":"qc64a8970cfda225159fc","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":800,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T02:08:46.446Z","text":"他可能会给出具体分析","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc2860f3ee55bf530f40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc64a8970cfda225159fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc2860f3ee55bf530f40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000019","next_batch_id":"batch-000021"}