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我第一个结论 就是老郭可能要对疫苗下手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e46e271c27e5bd03ed0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5371507963a253b0a459","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":9,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:20:44.671Z","text":"那证据就在那两张图里，看下就行。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5371507963a253b0a459","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qa45cb6ee6288a6631f60","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":10,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:21:05.323Z","text":"根本不沾边的事，疫苗和他的案子有啥关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e46e271c27e5bd03ed0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa45cb6ee6288a6631f60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e46e271c27e5bd03ed0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qa4d87e1c0e9140750b5d","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":11,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:21:05.999Z","text":"当然检方没踩这个坑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4d87e1c0e9140750b5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q06fc4bdef119b1bdc0b4","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":12,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:21:12.125Z","text":"第二张提到谈论的具体事实是代孕，第一张是语境，都对得上。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06fc4bdef119b1bdc0b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q10f0a39af905d2739971","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":13,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:21:19.968Z","text":"你这有啥？图呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q690f799a3f69da20cbd8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10f0a39af905d2739971","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q690f799a3f69da20cbd8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q0fec957c5b6bafa64704","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":14,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:21:33.508Z","text":"图没发出来吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fec957c5b6bafa64704","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8b8f79a37f49bab83c28","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":15,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:21:44.540Z","text":"你要结合当时的背景 所有媒体 法院 封杀疫苗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa45cb6ee6288a6631f60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b8f79a37f49bab83c28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa45cb6ee6288a6631f60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q86af3bb3df731ab58fbe","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":16,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:22:03.284Z","text":"没人提喜和的动议了，是谁歪楼的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86af3bb3df731ab58fbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q155e85222058ee0d2533","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":17,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:22:47.384Z","text":"但这个事情我确实也非常好奇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q155e85222058ee0d2533","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q2a93782a6299943d52e5","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":18,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:22:57.162Z","text":"看不到图吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a93782a6299943d52e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q3c05b866b3d86358372b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":19,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-30T07:24:42.477Z","text":"同，还有家族成员消费是否有意无意这里资金有关这个事。但我觉得这不是关键的，只是好奇，哪怕是事实，程序不正义一样可以去打","edited":false,"reply_to":"q155e85222058ee0d2533","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c05b866b3d86358372b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q155e85222058ee0d2533","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q9f269b0c8c4a818c400e","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":20,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:25:16.102Z","text":"这才是对待客观事实的战友态度。现在唯一的法门就是程序正义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c05b866b3d86358372b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f269b0c8c4a818c400e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c05b866b3d86358372b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8fd9219d3800a72eb59c","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":21,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:29:05.831Z","text":"这图里有啥？怀孕哪有提到","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4ac160440f5ef2890a3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fd9219d3800a72eb59c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qc02d915a48c55453cebf","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":22,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:29:53.499Z","text":"下一张图，法庭驳回了排除代孕证据的请求。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8fd9219d3800a72eb59c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02d915a48c55453cebf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fd9219d3800a72eb59c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe3d32be00ee06066bca0","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":23,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:30:22.653Z","text":"天呐，不至于吧兄弟？拯救郭要全面客观的审视局势。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3d32be00ee06066bca0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qd57955b91f56d46d70c2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":24,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:30:59.903Z","text":"怎么了，不正是在讨论此事吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3d32be00ee06066bca0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd57955b91f56d46d70c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3d32be00ee06066bca0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q6deee7dc8569a848a7b2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":25,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:31:16.121Z","text":"你再问Ai第二张图不就好了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd57955b91f56d46d70c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6deee7dc8569a848a7b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd57955b91f56d46d70c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q05d6b30880c29f72dc8d","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":26,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:31:31.840Z","text":"也是啥也没说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05d6b30880c29f72dc8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q498740d07cbdfcf66dc2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":27,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:31:33.095Z","text":"第二张图就是第一张的下一页，法庭的回复。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q498740d07cbdfcf66dc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q7484403636bcb3fbd602","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":28,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:31:41.219Z","text":"都说是听说了，掀篇吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8fd9219d3800a72eb59c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7484403636bcb3fbd602","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fd9219d3800a72eb59c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe165e28cf62006756f95","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":29,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:31:48.635Z","text":"把两张图连着发给AI 问这是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe165e28cf62006756f95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe86423a8a92e46614a3b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":30,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-30T07:32:02.161Z","text":"兄弟们，有时候不要太理想化，老郭当年在墙内可是在粪坑最深处，逢场作戏都是有的，而且是有目的性的。不能太道德洁癖。而且我不信老郭眼光这么差，释永信都能150個情人，老郭在牆內啥女人沒見過，直播也說過很多次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe86423a8a92e46614a3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qa0d4c702f0a1e78d874c","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":31,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T07:32:07.592Z","text":"我没确定哈。我只是相信王怀孕了，也可能是文贵的种。但是我不相信文贵会跟王发生性关系，特别是因为文贵应该很清楚王是什么货色。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1ed93ee316f099e8380","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0d4c702f0a1e78d874c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1ed93ee316f099e8380","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q72c3e614be659aba8a29","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":32,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:32:47.956Z","text":"不是，你故意的吗？全图，surrogacy evidence","edited":false,"reply_to":"q062da8b51efe4dcf1e33","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72c3e614be659aba8a29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q79f41451766c4b11fb98","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":33,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:32:56.593Z","text":"你查查字典也行啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79f41451766c4b11fb98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q10abc573720b37df4e7e","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":34,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:33:05.984Z","text":"我发给ai的当然是全图","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10abc573720b37df4e7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q9d774667f9f66ec6b240","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":35,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-30T07:33:16.073Z","text":"這都不是關鍵，打點是程序不正義，沒必要爭論","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d774667f9f66ec6b240","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q6de4994ac7bc2ec184cb","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":36,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:33:36.931Z","text":"行吧，你别问我了。你问问群里懂英文，你信得过的战友。你不懂英文，我也没辙了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6de4994ac7bc2ec184cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q9320613192507e93a746","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":37,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T07:33:59.485Z","text":"以前因为把她当战友，也就容忍了她的长相，对她很尊敬。现在就不同了。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfb23472f35cc54263c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9320613192507e93a746","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfb23472f35cc54263c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qa6f76fd0b856c874d60e","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":38,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:34:37.645Z","text":"虽然不是案情的关键，但是没搞清楚前，咱们可不能给七哥乱下定论。连孩子都有了。这是对咱们这个群最大的笑话。\n不调查确定的事情，就安在七哥头上。这群人还想翻案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6f76fd0b856c874d60e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe0ea752adbd7157c91ad","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":39,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:34:44.987Z","text":"我不认为老郭和王有什么关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ea752adbd7157c91ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q1f96f39d49688a353e5b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":40,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:34:57.751Z","text":"我不知道为什么Ai不把代孕关键词写出来，但你问问任何一个群里懂英文的，surrogacy evidence是什么意思，问问任何你信得过的ai 这个词组什么意思，可以吗？我没恶意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q062da8b51efe4dcf1e33","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f96f39d49688a353e5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q23346de7ee49e6ca2e94","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":41,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:35:07.830Z","text":"如果硬要扯 我更倾向于王搞了老郭的精子做试管","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23346de7ee49e6ca2e94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qd37df46aaba0004fa1a5","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":42,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:35:49.761Z","text":"你直接把那段话摘出来翻译一下更好，反正你相信了这是法律文件不是我杜撰的，你让AI给你翻译一下那个句子把","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6f76fd0b856c874d60e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd37df46aaba0004fa1a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6f76fd0b856c874d60e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q79061ed3a659a81d532f","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":43,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:35:49.769Z","text":"第一眼看去就是一个再普通不过的中年妇女","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9320613192507e93a746","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79061ed3a659a81d532f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9320613192507e93a746","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qb44dcab679ff87da58ae","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":44,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:36:14.392Z","text":"我觉得你的咨询可能比较落后","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6f76fd0b856c874d60e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb44dcab679ff87da58ae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6f76fd0b856c874d60e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8b75b3be481b103cd970","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":45,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:36:21.372Z","text":"这个当时庭审的时候","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b75b3be481b103cd970","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q43e712a15edb9477e43b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":46,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:36:29.482Z","text":"就讨论热烈了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43e712a15edb9477e43b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5318a0cbec5d00888404","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":47,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:37:20.528Z","text":"虽然那时候讨论过，\n最后应该也没有个定论吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb44dcab679ff87da58ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5318a0cbec5d00888404","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb44dcab679ff87da58ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q13c36021469d72523c37","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":48,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:37:39.384Z","text":"没有定论 唯一的定论是王艳萍怀孕了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5318a0cbec5d00888404","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13c36021469d72523c37","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5318a0cbec5d00888404","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q382f6eaf68dc2e73478c","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":49,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:37:45.198Z","text":"那个时候视频能看出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q382f6eaf68dc2e73478c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q715d33cf606c4280b6f5","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":50,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:38:08.074Z","text":"至于谁的孩子 不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q715d33cf606c4280b6f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qf8fc3a7bfa85a4f2adff","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":51,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:38:19.381Z","text":"被抓捕之前就看出来怀孕了的事？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q382f6eaf68dc2e73478c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8fc3a7bfa85a4f2adff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q382f6eaf68dc2e73478c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q27f576155db00efef53d","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":52,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:38:42.300Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8fc3a7bfa85a4f2adff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27f576155db00efef53d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8fc3a7bfa85a4f2adff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5d1fa577c2256fc56e74","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":53,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:38:49.492Z","text":"有一个视频很明显","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1fa577c2256fc56e74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8882f20cc0126dba2da7","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":54,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T07:41:59.166Z","text":"文贵身边除了他自己的家人，没有一个好人，全都是虎视眈眈要吃他的唐僧肉的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8882f20cc0126dba2da7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qce0b8f1bc5935a17d83a","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":55,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:42:06.088Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8882f20cc0126dba2da7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce0b8f1bc5935a17d83a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8882f20cc0126dba2da7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q73afaa2ca12d1e3dba06","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":56,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:42:06.219Z","text":"连瑞恩都说不知道谁的娃，那就ok了。\n王这么多年无法回国，作为女人，丈夫常年不在旁边。\n七哥身边有七嫂常伴。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q715d33cf606c4280b6f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73afaa2ca12d1e3dba06","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q715d33cf606c4280b6f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q9ae292efca304f1c2fdd","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":57,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:42:31.433Z","text":"反正当时 传的最狠的 就是王搞了老郭精子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73afaa2ca12d1e3dba06","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae292efca304f1c2fdd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73afaa2ca12d1e3dba06","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q9ef96ef7da3d36ac92f1","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":58,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:42:39.737Z","text":"我认为这个也最有可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ef96ef7da3d36ac92f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q2e4a61d1deae9298e960","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":59,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:42:52.215Z","text":"王现在大概率就是特务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4a61d1deae9298e960","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q643da7ee73f20b5efc8b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":60,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:43:07.117Z","text":"七哥的jz，还没开始拍卖吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ae292efca304f1c2fdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q643da7ee73f20b5efc8b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae292efca304f1c2fdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q70598ae890a476e5d2e9","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":61,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T07:43:15.259Z","text":"我觉得这是最大的可能。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ae292efca304f1c2fdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70598ae890a476e5d2e9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae292efca304f1c2fdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qaf3e86f3ae86b1ac26c5","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":62,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:43:17.055Z","text":"这个不知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q643da7ee73f20b5efc8b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf3e86f3ae86b1ac26c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q643da7ee73f20b5efc8b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q541d69e33deb46efafce","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":63,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:43:21.571Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70598ae890a476e5d2e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q541d69e33deb46efafce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70598ae890a476e5d2e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe242ce014b305ca24761","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":64,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:43:36.775Z","text":"当然这些都还是传言 没有证实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe242ce014b305ca24761","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q583f0b4262da38ee0501","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":65,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:43:44.078Z","text":"是当时庭审的战友告诉我的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q583f0b4262da38ee0501","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q2836811d9af4d8e827e2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":66,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:43:46.685Z","text":"为啥永远是八卦消息最吸引人呢？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2836811d9af4d8e827e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q79c0021a2fb539067ac4","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":67,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:44:00.490Z","text":"要是捡到七哥梦遗的内裤能去受精吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79c0021a2fb539067ac4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q93604e7eeb4c58599ccf","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":68,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:44:04.881Z","text":"毕竟出现在法庭文件里","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2836811d9af4d8e827e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93604e7eeb4c58599ccf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2836811d9af4d8e827e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qc14454ff23117f8ef343","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":69,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T07:44:36.257Z","text":"说实在的，我对这个并不是很感兴趣。🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc14454ff23117f8ef343","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q3f55f6230b904261c7b2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":70,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:44:50.055Z","text":"这个是不是正经盖尔的邮箱？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f55f6230b904261c7b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q47f39f1d6385d107b0e2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":71,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:45:18.659Z","text":"嗯，这是他个人的工作邮箱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f55f6230b904261c7b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47f39f1d6385d107b0e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f55f6230b904261c7b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q1ababeb8423df40b7169","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":72,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:46:00.402Z","text":"你没填表是吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f55f6230b904261c7b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ababeb8423df40b7169","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f55f6230b904261c7b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qc8a1be35f0e17d9db846","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":73,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:46:10.923Z","text":"所以你的意思是，即便法律文件里说了如此，也还是“传言”？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe242ce014b305ca24761","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8a1be35f0e17d9db846","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe242ce014b305ca24761","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q70ce6a621a78a8854fd2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":74,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:46:36.495Z","text":"文件里说啥了？王怀了郭的孩子？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8a1be35f0e17d9db846","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70ce6a621a78a8854fd2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8a1be35f0e17d9db846","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q77a7d36edc350944809f","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":75,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:48:12.781Z","text":"我在樱花的战友，他说提交过凑齐5000人的邮件，但是盖尔却回复他没有代理他。这是为何？\n就像瑞恩那次询问盖尔一样。\n\n我严重怀疑，会不会是盖尔把所有主动询问他的全都回答没有？不然他就会担责，因为是欺诈我们。\n我们并没有授权他去七哥的案子里作为受害者要钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ababeb8423df40b7169","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a7d36edc350944809f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ababeb8423df40b7169","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe9e84856bd50cc5f24f1","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":76,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:49:13.937Z","text":"你看到涂黑的内容了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8a1be35f0e17d9db846","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9e84856bd50cc5f24f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8a1be35f0e17d9db846","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q7fd759c882988cc807ef","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":77,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:49:46.745Z","text":"如果确实代理了 他应该不会说没代理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77a7d36edc350944809f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd759c882988cc807ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a7d36edc350944809f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q26936d99f8118dfde04b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":78,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:50:17.224Z","text":"但是那个人确实提交过邮件，第一次凑齐5000人的邮件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fd759c882988cc807ef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26936d99f8118dfde04b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd759c882988cc807ef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q79db083aab0d688cfd19","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":79,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T07:50:17.396Z","text":"文件里说的是：王希望排除代孕证据，理由是证据充分证明她和郭的亲密关系，认为其高度敏感且涉及复杂伦理问题。法庭驳回了这个请求。确实没在原文里说“王怀了郭的孩子”，所以我不知道各位究竟能解读出什么神奇的意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70ce6a621a78a8854fd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79db083aab0d688cfd19","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70ce6a621a78a8854fd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q36693648dfde9e6e29db","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":80,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:50:26.804Z","text":"应该不会，提交了hid就会在列表里，他现在撒谎将来也得暴露","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77a7d36edc350944809f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36693648dfde9e6e29db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a7d36edc350944809f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q313e0bb98c2334f8cbd4","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":81,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:51:12.960Z","text":"我的grok就是解读不出什么神奇的意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q79db083aab0d688cfd19","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q313e0bb98c2334f8cbd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79db083aab0d688cfd19","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q86fed30a32860a3422e7","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":82,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:51:22.381Z","text":"我对这个事情最大的质疑 就是为什么检方不打","edited":false,"reply_to":"q79db083aab0d688cfd19","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86fed30a32860a3422e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79db083aab0d688cfd19","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qf39857c46f174d6dcbb3","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":83,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:51:46.729Z","text":"庭审检方早就有百分百信心定罪老郭 所以不用打这个？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf39857c46f174d6dcbb3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qb863c59d8b725e59da91","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":84,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:52:25.335Z","text":"后来检方也不愿意提这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb863c59d8b725e59da91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qc02b860dec0910ca7338","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":85,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:52:42.885Z","text":"因为太low，如果错了自己得惹一身骚","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb863c59d8b725e59da91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02b860dec0910ca7338","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb863c59d8b725e59da91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5067b2d004deb6308655","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":86,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:53:04.963Z","text":"这个对于七哥是极大程度上的名誉摧毁，我要是ccp，必须公布出来。倾尽全力。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf39857c46f174d6dcbb3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5067b2d004deb6308655","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf39857c46f174d6dcbb3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q24191b56906fda7d9e13","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":87,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:53:32.452Z","text":"对啊……","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5067b2d004deb6308655","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24191b56906fda7d9e13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5067b2d004deb6308655","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q2ad4a4b914cfe5a7a622","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":88,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T07:53:51.538Z","text":"马瑞他们宣传的够可以了吧，结果呢？他们不会再来一次了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5067b2d004deb6308655","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ad4a4b914cfe5a7a622","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5067b2d004deb6308655","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q7c7978d6f4b3c7e559dd","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":89,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:54:25.906Z","text":"确实如此","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc02b860dec0910ca7338","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c7978d6f4b3c7e559dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02b860dec0910ca7338","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q86b423114c1403ef48c2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":90,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T07:55:26.717Z","text":"大概率是没有，如果强行曝光，甚至导致燕子的招数被揭底，反而帮助了七哥提高名誉，更加证实七哥唯真不破，证实ccp超限战","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86b423114c1403ef48c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5f44bef399de45f65415","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":91,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:56:39.373Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ 我准备写你说的 让检方公布债权人和诈骗陈述的关系","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f44bef399de45f65415","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5c0e4d6cb164e1e3690b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":92,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T07:58:33.776Z","text":"话说回来，这也是夠难为文贵的，对于一个这么丑的王雁平，他还得忍受，一切都是为了灭共。🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c0e4d6cb164e1e3690b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qd7fdd9ae3bcc8a2315e4","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":93,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:59:03.435Z","text":"你别忘了王艳萍是跟着文贵好几十年的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c0e4d6cb164e1e3690b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7fdd9ae3bcc8a2315e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c0e4d6cb164e1e3690b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe3a2ebffee3514b96fc4","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":94,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T07:59:12.807Z","text":"他们也是够拼的😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3a2ebffee3514b96fc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q07164ac94b03236e0082","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":95,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T08:00:12.188Z","text":"相互都有利用价值。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3a2ebffee3514b96fc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07164ac94b03236e0082","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3a2ebffee3514b96fc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qec6c096623b693a6e0fd","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":96,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T08:00:24.947Z","text":"七哥对于王应该还是极大信任的吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c0e4d6cb164e1e3690b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec6c096623b693a6e0fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c0e4d6cb164e1e3690b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qea059a9875ed4b938dcd","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":97,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T08:00:53.394Z","text":"只要不暴雷，都还是选择信任王。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea059a9875ed4b938dcd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q7c43c7be73dff18f71c7","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":98,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T08:01:09.045Z","text":"知蒋干用蒋干。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec6c096623b693a6e0fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c43c7be73dff18f71c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec6c096623b693a6e0fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q578a86145ea692e398ce","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":99,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-30T08:01:52.513Z","text":"那很好啊，只要能够让法官不得不正视破产法庭令的程序不正义，就达到目的了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f44bef399de45f65415","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q578a86145ea692e398ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f44bef399de45f65415","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q6d4aacd3cbb4dfd57e6b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":100,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T08:02:13.698Z","text":"至于性关系这种底线，哪怕是qmay亲自奉上，七哥也应该是守得住的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d4aacd3cbb4dfd57e6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qb112eed489f7d1fdd26d","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":101,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T08:02:31.618Z","text":"文贵说过，他的计划谁都不知道。王只管执行他的意图、不问为什么。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb112eed489f7d1fdd26d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q10edbf59915d45871c8d","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":102,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T08:08:34.525Z","text":"我也用了下grok，你得把那两张图连起来，一并发给Ai，问两张图讲了什么。单张图各问一遍，AI自然不知道上下文。你亲手试一下，是不是grok生成的就是这段类似的意思。","edited":false,"repl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你又瞎猜了。我还以为味蕾有法律意识呢，原来也都是法盲。一个词就能联想，这么多。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bdffea2ca3af57edfe3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qb377a5097d6d6b689f87","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":135,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T09:57:35.000Z","text":"开个玩笑。事实如何，理性人一眼即明，毕竟实在不懂英文找不到信赖的翻译者，可以借助ai，这个事实本身没有讨论的价值，跟您打个趣罢了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb377a5097d6d6b689f87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q81c6c9c87ffae0bdf881","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":136,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T10:00:38.986Z","text":"各位应该回复下sarah，把人家倒晾一边了。难得的巾帼在这里做切实贡献。她让我们分析下，我私信她的动机","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81c6c9c87ffae0bdf881","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q771a4d42a8a0ad313ce8","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":137,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-07-30T10:02:58.094Z","text":"我觉得我还是能读懂一点法官行文的意思：【尽管】这个证据涉及高度敏感和有争议的伦理道德问题，【但是】这个证据也说明了王雁平和老郭的关系非同一般的近【所以】法官准许检方使用该证据\n\n至于这是啥证据，讲啥的，基本都涂黑了，就剩一个词：surrogacy evidence \n\n至于解读，大家可以随意。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q771a4d42a8a0ad313ce8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q1528d8453576bd393d9c","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":138,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T10:03:51.922Z","text":"这个英文有一定水平的都能懂，不懂的，怎么解释也没用，您英文应该也很棒吧？肯定能理解我的意思，语言的内在逻辑跟外行解释不清。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q771a4d42a8a0ad313ce8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1528d8453576bd393d9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q771a4d42a8a0ad313ce8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qd0c32b30d00c3ced0b81","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":139,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T10:05:39.880Z","text":"通过法官几行字，你就能脑补出一部狗血电视剧？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0c32b30d00c3ced0b81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qaa7d67c48294e304da61","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":140,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T10:14:18.635Z","text":"郭这种人怎么可能随便卖精子，或者和别人生孩子，想想就不可能。郭从2017年开始，每天生活都是必须是很小心的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa7d67c48294e304da61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qee650a6402423c027e7f","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":141,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T10:19:00.159Z","text":"因为CCP知道还是关心桃色新闻的人多😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee650a6402423c027e7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8c9c7ab81477ca44a41e","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":142,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T10:19:18.050Z","text":"不管真的假的😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c9c7ab81477ca44a41e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q9a720976ddce5b524485","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":143,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-30T11:05:35.841Z","text":"你应该解读债权人登记妨碍司法虚假索赔！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1528d8453576bd393d9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a720976ddce5b524485","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1528d8453576bd393d9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q62859bd938127a34bdb1","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":144,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-30T11:05:46.184Z","text":"这是铁证，是法庭命令！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62859bd938127a34bdb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qed90e69bd230a72f3180","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":145,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-30T11:49:51.389Z","text":"扯其他都沒意義，真的也好，假的的也好，有意義麼，核心是檢方程序不正義，證據模糊不閉合","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed90e69bd230a72f3180","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8207bb7901fcdf6036d1","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":146,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-30T11:50:32.885Z","text":"好奇歸好奇，到別偏離聚焦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8207bb7901fcdf6036d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5730f0af158ebd160108","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":147,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T12:40:14.976Z","text":"他就是刷存在感的，跟检方唱双簧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5fc91dc6a310cd8bb399","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5730f0af158ebd160108","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q33f5b0db9fd598858940","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":148,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-30T12:42:11.750Z","text":"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v86cCjeLcKc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33f5b0db9fd598858940","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000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,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf4136007098894dbf6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q84dc6be0ec8bba18c1f2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":161,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-07-30T13:46:11.676Z","text":"什么Luc是一个没有资格出庭的律师啦，什么老郭的破产申请书没有签字是伪造的用来陷害他的啦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q101e18f8d9c829f0bdd4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84dc6be0ec8bba18c1f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101e18f8d9c829f0bdd4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qb877e0e67db8c63f9d42","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":162,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T13:46:38.759Z","text":"让朱贝贝宣传，还不如你来宣传","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf4136007098894dbf6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb877e0e67db8c63f9d42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf4136007098894dbf6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qd3f7de3d7baded688085","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":163,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T13:48:09.823Z","text":"我是反郭的，没法宣传，她会直观认为我这是给她挖坑。但有我在这里，就不一样了，说明有对冲你们思路的力量存在，这是潜在的中共打击，显得你们可信性大大提高。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f7de3d7baded688085","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8dd58beb0a269bed8957","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":164,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T13:48:33.543Z","text":"啊，你是中共的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3f7de3d7baded688085","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dd58beb0a269bed8957","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f7de3d7baded688085","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q73d8f3d7f0f81a42ec53","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":165,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T13:48:49.075Z","text":"她会这么认为","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dd58beb0a269bed8957","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73d8f3d7f0f81a42ec53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dd58beb0a269bed8957","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q5a3301f85825f1a64998","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":166,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-30T13:48:49.244Z","text":"法庭上没有共产党。不要过多扯共产党。共产党只是背景而已。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a3301f85825f1a64998","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q43d337c20e5de6668c47","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":167,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T13:50:33.307Z","text":"她也不会这么认为吧。这个群经常吵架，也不代表有人是中共的。再说给朱贝贝有什么好宣传的。她爱干啥干啥。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73d8f3d7f0f81a42ec53","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43d337c20e5de6668c47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73d8f3d7f0f81a42ec53","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q7aaf7f738203ec5953cb","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":168,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T13:51:22.772Z","text":"我的意思是，这个群存在拮抗性力量，说明有真实性可言，如果都是你们前前后后跑思路，她会理解成这个群是中共做的局，为了让人上当。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aaf7f738203ec5953cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qd54e060fc2b35f71d3f2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":169,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T13:52:09.417Z","text":"我看到过X有人怀疑螺丝是国安的，在墙内高调露脸暴露信息，很可疑之类的论点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd54e060fc2b35f71d3f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q9a33b8855b43f6e60b56","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":170,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T13:52:25.118Z","text":"战友脑子就是这么简单没办法，得顺着他们思路来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a33b8855b43f6e60b56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qac25abe9a7b0b296a7e6","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":171,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T13:52:58.747Z","text":"她怎么理解who cares？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7aaf7f738203ec5953cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac25abe9a7b0b296a7e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aaf7f738203ec5953cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qff7aeac7a0febb5516de","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":172,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T13:53:14.754Z","text":"每个人有自己的认知。朱贝贝也不代表所有战友。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff7aeac7a0febb5516de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qf16d02ce125cd1fc9423","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":173,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T13:53:29.597Z","text":"我就是给你们点拉人进来出力的切实提议，您自便","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf16d02ce125cd1fc9423","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q3e3ae8be420470b6e5ef","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":174,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T13:54:21.377Z","text":"朱贝贝不用拉。她是法庭的vip，连盖尔都怕她。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e3ae8be420470b6e5ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qd29e465f077fbf7a90ec","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":175,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T13:54:57.645Z","text":"人家比螺丝哥厉害多了😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd29e465f077fbf7a90ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qdd00b2f4e4044fd78fb2","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":176,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T15:21:12.620Z","text":"跟她发过连接了，她没来。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf4136007098894dbf6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd00b2f4e4044fd78fb2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf4136007098894dbf6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe1596003f1047b7a7d09","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":177,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T15:25:02.991Z","text":"咋的，你的ai现在不提王怀七哥孩子的事了？ai听了我们的质疑换思路了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3eaf50d2ba2695c589ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1596003f1047b7a7d09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3eaf50d2ba2695c589ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qbd24dc01ecc8772d0e7c","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":178,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-30T15:27:55.460Z","text":"刚才还说我英文也不懂，ai也不行。咋的怀上的孩子突然就不姓郭了，你刚刚可是言之凿凿，确定得很呢。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb377a5097d6d6b689f87","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd24dc01ecc8772d0e7c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb377a5097d6d6b689f87","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q6844ba2f6dd96968a5bf","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":179,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-30T15:32:15.048Z","text":"我这不跟他开玩笑嘛？你这话说的，我真不清楚你是真的看不懂别人的上下文，还是故意“呛”我，后者没意义我是个特殊的敌人免疫这些。我都不提了，你还纠结啥呢..一来跟诈骗确实没关系，二来确凿的事实没有辩论的意义，只有接受与否的个人选择。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6844ba2f6dd96968a5bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qb3e52b2c531d6e60b42b","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":180,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-30T17:00:56.387Z","text":"网红联盟 捧她为英雄 是因为 她帮 网红把老郭拉下水 抓进去了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0ea752adbd7157c91ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3e52b2c531d6e60b42b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ea752adbd7157c91ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q1fc98342245046de0974","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":181,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-30T17:01:35.720Z","text":"所以这里除了受害者 债权人 要打。王的 认罪 是否也要打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fc98342245046de0974","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qbf9852deb5a9ee6753ac","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":182,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T17:05:27.192Z","text":"尊敬的 Torres 法官：\n\n近四个月前，在本案第四次推迟宣判时，法庭明确表示：“此案已经被拖延得太久了。”（Dkt. 648（2025年4月8日庭审记录第6页）（“附件A”））。政府对此表示认同，郭文贵大规模诈骗案的受害者们亦是如此，其中一位受害者数月前就指出：“[及时伸张正义的缺失助长了郭支持者中的错误信息，并加深了那些已经遭受巨大痛苦的人的折磨]。”（Dkt. 511 第2页）。因此，2025年4月8日，法院将宣判日期定在2025年9月8日——这是由辩方请求并同意的日期。\n\n如今，距离郭文贵于2024年7月被陪审团定罪已过去一年多，其第三批辩护律师却再次请求推迟宣判。（Dkt. 715，辩方函件，要求再延后三个月宣判）。如下所述，被告的三名指定律师已经有且仍然有充足的时间为宣判做准备，而辩方提出的理由均不足以支持三个月的延期请求。法院应当驳回该动议。¹\n\n\n---\n\nA. 案件背景\n\n2024年7月17日，陪审团在为期近八周的审理后，裁定郭文贵九项罪名成立。法院随后将宣判日期定在四个月后，即2024年11月19日。郭文贵首次请求推迟宣判是在2024年9月8日，要求“60天的一次性延期”（Dkt. 466）。法院仅批准了三周的延期，将宣判日期推迟到2024年12月9日。\n\n2024年9月26日，缓刑部门向各方提交了初步量刑报告。2024年10月16日，郭文贵当时的律师提交了一份19页的信函，详细列出了对该报告的异议。2024年11月4日，政府提交了对被告异议的回应。最终量刑报告于2024年11月21日发布（Dkt. 475）。\n\n郭文贵第二次请求推迟宣判是在2024年10月10日。法院同意将宣判日期推迟到2025年1月6日，并命令郭文贵在2024年12月16日前提交量刑意见（Dkt. 472）。郭文贵未能按时提交量刑意见。2024年12月20日，法院举行了律师更换听证会，并无限期推迟宣判（Dkt. 483）。随后，法院于2025年4月8日召开会议，解除前任律师职务，任命现任律师，并按照辩方请求设定了新的宣判时间表。\n\n值得注意的是，在2025年4月8日的会议上，法院特别提醒被告宣判程序不是重审庭审结果的场所，并引用了多项先例（见附件A第5-6页）。\n\n法院随后指示前任律师须与新律师分享案件文件并提供必要支持，强调“此案已经拖延得太久了”（附件A第6页）。\n\n当时，新律师要求将宣判日期安排在“9月初或中旬”，并在宣判前三周提交辩方意见，法院批准了该请求，最终将郭文贵的宣判日期定在2025年9月8日。\n\n\n---\n\nB. 适用法律\n\n社会具有“迅速起诉”的特殊利益（Barker v. Wingo, 407 U.S. 514, 527 (1972)）。政府和公众，包括郭文贵的数千名受害者，均“对判决的最终确定以及使郭文贵尽快被宣判有重要利益”（United States v. Sabir, 628 F. Supp. 2d 414, 417 (S.D.N.Y. 2007)）。联邦刑事诉讼规则第32(b)(1)条要求法院“不得无故拖延宣判”。延迟宣判将造成实际损害，使受害者“对定罪结果的后果陷于不确定之中”（United States v. Ray, 578 F.3d 184, 198 (2d Cir. 2009)）。此外，受害者有法定权利获得“完整且及时的赔偿”以及“免于无理拖延的诉讼程序”（18 U.S.C. § 3771(a)(6)-(7)）。\n\n地区法院在是否批准延期问题上拥有广泛自由裁量权（United States v. Arslanouk, 853 F. App’x 714, 722 (2d Cir. 2021)）。只有当延期请求被任意拒绝且严重影响被告获得公正量刑的机会时，上诉法院才可能推翻量刑结果（United States v. Prescott, 920 F.2d 139, 146-47 (2d Cir. 1990)）。\n\n\n---","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf9852deb5a9ee6753ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q7877aafd678576b18673","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":183,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T17:05:43.142Z","text":"C.讨论\n1. 庭审记录和证据卷宗庞大：现任律师在4月8日已知晓这一情况，并仍同意9月8日的宣判日期。未来仍有足够时间准备。\n\n\n2. Rule 16 和 §3500 材料数量庞大：被告早已拥有相关材料，且这些材料主要用于庭审，量刑重点应是庭审记录，不应成为拖延理由。\n\n3. 试图重新争议已决问题：例如要求基于《机密信息程序法》（CIPA）提出新的证据请求。法院此前已作出裁定（Dkt. 294，2024年4月18日），不应重启。\n\n4. PSR、没收事宜和被告语言问题：前任律师已对量刑报告提出异议，新律师可直接继承相关工作。没收事宜辩方早已明确立场，语言问题亦非充分理由。\n\n政府强调，本案已延迟一年多，郭文贵的受害者一直在等待赔偿，宣判不应再推迟至2025年12月。\nD. 结论\n\n辩方请求将宣判推迟至2025年12月，应当被驳回。被告已经有足足一年时间准备量刑程序。政府认为，给予现任律师大约22周时间提交量刑意见，已绰绰有余。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7877aafd678576b18673","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q47e83ddadb465a577ae6","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":184,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T17:32:43.637Z","text":"这是啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7877aafd678576b18673","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47e83ddadb465a577ae6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7877aafd678576b18673","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qc77347a255e1d4fa239d","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":185,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T17:33:54.390Z","text":"这是718动议，检方反对12月份量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc77347a255e1d4fa239d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q689dca5eb0c111a7e25f","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":186,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T17:52:00.498Z","text":"嗯哼！这就是小羊说的辩检双方“联合办案”的结果。显然，检方想把郭往死里整的势头没变，莫非文贵的律师在配合检方，………，难怪螺丝哥说小羊是最坏……，吸引到一点人气之后就及不可耐地带私货。🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7877aafd678576b18673","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q689dca5eb0c111a7e25f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7877aafd678576b18673","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe2981e609f04e528a1f9","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":187,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-30T17:53:15.068Z","text":"我相信了他好几年，直到大概今年2-3月。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc66917bd8f01d6d4193","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2981e609f04e528a1f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容未公开或已清洗排除","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q7fcbd09c70c0f307adbe","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":188,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T17:58:11.577Z","text":"检方还是说受害者都等着要钱呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fcbd09c70c0f307adbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q1896c7d867ce78557548","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":189,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T17:58:22.694Z","text":"几千受害者排队要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1896c7d867ce78557548","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qf0196395afc946593506","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":190,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T17:58:38.026Z","text":"看我怎么打他们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0196395afc946593506","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q4a11473584e7e35dfc87","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":191,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T18:58:05.763Z","text":"哪个文件托雷斯说的可以介入的两个方法？ ［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a11473584e7e35dfc87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q2b5d5b4d84c341c31821","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":192,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-30T19:02:44.068Z","text":"528","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b5d5b4d84c341c31821","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qe0fe870d3274659d1f27","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":193,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-30T19:04:44.213Z","text":"检方718上传了，我的还没有上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0fe870d3274659d1f27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q8d7b7482029ae6330a40","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":194,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T19:11:53.806Z","text":"还有俩小时下班","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7b7482029ae6330a40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q1512efad07435ce07beb","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":195,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T19:12:21.985Z","text":"一般都是下班前？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0fe870d3274659d1f27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1512efad07435ce07beb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0fe870d3274659d1f27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q11f93a7a222cd252ea90","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":196,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-30T19:12:49.510Z","text":"检方一直强调，郭文贵的受害者一直在等待赔偿。怎么看，都觉得是在说盖尔！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11f93a7a222cd252ea90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qf663af6ab7ac588e5d22","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":197,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-30T19:13:09.079Z","text":"然后把你的动议扣下 就完美了哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11f93a7a222cd252ea90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf663af6ab7ac588e5d22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11f93a7a222cd252ea90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"q664f5cb87955a12f1a07","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":198,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-30T19:13:18.071Z","text":"不一定。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1512efad07435ce07beb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q664f5cb87955a12f1a07","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1512efad07435ce07beb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qb447fa6acb656fba0c69","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":199,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T19:15:48.660Z","text":"528没有中文版，我记得有一个中文版的在备注的小字里写的可以第三方用什么介入","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b5d5b4d84c341c31821","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb447fa6acb656fba0c69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b5d5b4d84c341c31821","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"},{"id":"qfe1d2778336d0175c518","batch_id":"batch-000021","seq":200,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-30T19:16:14.252Z","text":"还有一个中文版是开头第一段写了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe1d2778336d0175c518","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000021"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000020","next_batch_id":"batch-000022"}