{"id":"batch-000022","number":22,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-08-01T01:53:31.950Z","date_end":"2025-08-02T09:59:03.010Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 022 (Aug 1, 2025 – Aug 2, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants focused on court forfeiture motions, sentencing timelines, and defense strategies following judicial postponements. Debates divided community members between pursuing Fourth Amendment appeals over alleged procedural injustice and confronting potential fraudulent losses. While some argued that replacing defense counsel and scrutinizing alleged prosecutorial cooperation by alliance figures could aid overturning the verdict, others expressed disillusionment, disputing whether funds could be recovered and exploring formal creditor registration for self-preservation.","guide_en":[{"title":"Discussion on Court Asset Forfeiture, Sentencing Timelines, and Outside Commentary","description":"Participants debate the sequence of asset forfeiture relative to sentencing following judicial postponements.","message_ids":["q92f6324820fd7f69dee4","q425c50549967bf097a6c","q8871688dd01d4e230b42"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q92f6324820fd7f69dee4","summary_en":"rui*** states that they are waiting for the judge to proceed promptly with asset forfeiture."},{"message_id":"q425c50549967bf097a6c","summary_en":"gun*** inquires whether asset forfeiture must precede sentencing or if sentencing occurs before forfeiture."},{"message_id":"q8871688dd01d4e230b42","summary_en":"rui*** 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人人都能捐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39265fc25fbb42ba38a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q58db8209dd81be023a14","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":845,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T07:45:00.218Z","text":"当时捐的并不多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39265fc25fbb42ba38a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58db8209dd81be023a14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39265fc25fbb42ba38a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q6331cb54351adbd363c2","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":846,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T07:46:25.611Z","text":"郭天天捧着这群老椅子，关键时刻有几个出手的？郭看人也并不准","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5872f08fb326f9a1d144","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6331cb54351adbd363c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5872f08fb326f9a1d144","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe07a338147676cc1453b","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":847,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-02T07:47:05.116Z","text":"我是不相信他指望平民救的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe07a338147676cc1453b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qbfbea91f4413729a742e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":848,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-02T07:47:32.942Z","text":"指望平民救和自杀有什么区别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfbea91f4413729a742e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qdadf28062aa708d94e70","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":849,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-02T07:47:55.354Z","text":"就这点能耐剿什么匪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdadf28062aa708d94e70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q302666f0b733eb628363","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":850,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T07:51:34.776Z","text":"当受害者和当第三方风险是差不多的，甚至受害者风险更高，郭翻案后，受害者就完了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1aae6d122b4b6cedf8a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q302666f0b733eb628363","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1aae6d122b4b6cedf8a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q52713f6ca9afb72645a4","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":851,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T07:53:23.032Z","text":"也可能就是在等有人递上新的重大证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q438e7843c82697e5eea9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52713f6ca9afb72645a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q438e7843c82697e5eea9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q5edb0f56c75e54378354","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":852,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:04:09.244Z","text":"还没到那一步，现在只要有一线希望就不能放弃","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d65b63c618c3c6c0d76","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5edb0f56c75e54378354","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qdc45ece4658d31479341","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":853,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:06:11.545Z","text":"他的底牌没人知道，但你躺平不参与，将来有啥好事也一样没你的份","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe07a338147676cc1453b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc45ece4658d31479341","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe07a338147676cc1453b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q7e95398cef2ce8ffd0b4","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":854,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:23:09.225Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  欺诈叙事 最终陪审团的定罪 是打不掉的 他可以说你有其他证人证词 证明老郭和g系列的控制关系。但是债权人可以打掉抓捕时候的叙事 错误抓捕 毒树之果，然后之后的延伸证据都不合法。好像这才是老郭翻案的逻辑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e95398cef2ce8ffd0b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q713651a6f9903fdac297","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":855,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:26:09.777Z","text":"成功也需要你自己的努力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q176d12a43ea7426e8580","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q713651a6f9903fdac297","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qd6d7149371b90bead0bf","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":856,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:26:15.671Z","text":"你自己不努力 也不可能成功的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d7149371b90bead0bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q7047b9b3d39d23274a1e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":857,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:26:21.849Z","text":"你自己做了什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7047b9b3d39d23274a1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qc5c42cf8e7774f8d7a74","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":858,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:28:32.708Z","text":"老郭不出来 你一分钱都不可能要回来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5c42cf8e7774f8d7a74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q71156cc1a8d0b61d4042","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":859,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:28:38.763Z","text":"老郭出来 说不定你还有机会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71156cc1a8d0b61d4042","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qb81bc0dfcb9bcc36c76e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":860,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:29:32.419Z","text":"把那些虚假登记和破产法庭令排除掉，呈堂证供里就没有证据支持陪审团的欺诈意图事实认定。因为目前的呈堂证供里，支持实体犯罪的只有破产法庭令。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e95398cef2ce8ffd0b4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb81bc0dfcb9bcc36c76e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e95398cef2ce8ffd0b4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q1f11af2f59c77af13494","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":861,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:29:57.744Z","text":"还有证人证词 银行流水","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb81bc0dfcb9bcc36c76e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f11af2f59c77af13494","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb81bc0dfcb9bcc36c76e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q9a578007c5004b5f9c49","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":862,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:30:04.823Z","text":"郭确实控制g系列","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a578007c5004b5f9c49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qb7502fb260b9f38d5d35","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":863,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:30:28.437Z","text":"如果从陪审团的角度出发 可以打掉他诈骗意图","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7502fb260b9f38d5d35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q1814efc4888300c8a935","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":864,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:30:47.710Z","text":"但还是打不掉银行流水 电汇洗钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1814efc4888300c8a935","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qfabbaf68e14fc65cc0ed","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":865,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:30:52.917Z","text":"如果那些是真的,就没必要忙活了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a578007c5004b5f9c49","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfabbaf68e14fc65cc0ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a578007c5004b5f9c49","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qad74bc07effca04eca94","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":866,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:31:07.067Z","text":"我的意思是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfabbaf68e14fc65cc0ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad74bc07effca04eca94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfabbaf68e14fc65cc0ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q88d2771af3dc1384e5cb","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":867,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:31:19.809Z","text":"证人证词里面 还有债权人打不掉的东西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88d2771af3dc1384e5cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qafc8f83776dee20b6ba8","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":868,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:31:38.031Z","text":"如果想全部打掉 只能像螺丝哥说的 案子没有根基","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafc8f83776dee20b6ba8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q8771f23bb8d8ecc5ce3e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":869,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:31:47.712Z","text":"法律术语就是非法抓捕 毒树之果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8771f23bb8d8ecc5ce3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q9ca4104652a984dae3ea","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":870,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:35:00.054Z","text":"问题就是那些证人证词都是在被告动了投资者的钱这一基础上才有效，破产法庭令和那些非法登记没有了，其它证据有效的基础就没有了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88d2771af3dc1384e5cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ca4104652a984dae3ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88d2771af3dc1384e5cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q4599cc81cb26771cbb2a","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":871,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:36:15.249Z","text":"第三方能起作用，就是因为我们可以以保全案件所涉及资产的名义把这两项打掉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4599cc81cb26771cbb2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q03aa2d84f013146a1515","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":872,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:38:05.974Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ca4104652a984dae3ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03aa2d84f013146a1515","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ca4104652a984dae3ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q2b9d36d141fb2fd363f0","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":873,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:38:12.097Z","text":"这个得研究研究","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b9d36d141fb2fd363f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q660f716b5a5355a50bd6","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":874,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:38:24.268Z","text":"是直接打最终陪审团的决定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q660f716b5a5355a50bd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q3cc646657d81d2d3f7ee","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":875,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:38:27.170Z","text":"还是打抓捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cc646657d81d2d3f7ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q865b6b61e07ee37876c9","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":876,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:38:58.856Z","text":"我说将来，之前的投资该怎么兑现怎么兑现，兑现不了的该怎么处理怎么处理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q176d12a43ea7426e8580","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q865b6b61e07ee37876c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q40af4549484fec7cd709","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":877,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:39:57.458Z","text":"现在99.9%的人心态都是，赶紧拿钱走人，再也不掺合了，但是又走不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q176d12a43ea7426e8580","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40af4549484fec7cd709","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qce94519a052497eacc4a","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":878,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:42:00.510Z","text":"这个又涉及到中共，法官又不认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1814efc4888300c8a935","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce94519a052497eacc4a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1814efc4888300c8a935","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q522b151c7d76eca1ff1b","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":879,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:42:43.200Z","text":"检方除了破产法庭令外，没有任何实体犯罪也就是被告动了投资者的钱的证据，全部是证词在说是被告让它们做的，觉得被被告骗了云云。被告都没有动钱，骗了你什么？检方为了勉强凑出一个被告动了投资者的钱的实体证据,说被告用未来的钱买过去的游艇。这如此之荒唐，一定会给正常的陪审团留下深刻印象：fuck,你检方都在搞些什么玩意。但陪审团就是说有欺诈意图，所以我说它陪审团就是个橡皮图章。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q522b151c7d76eca1ff1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qb5f3d75a68c2674fef65","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":880,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:43:29.718Z","text":"没看懂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4599cc81cb26771cbb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剿匪才有希望","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q469c6fd1181d28b87e2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe5418482676d167b15bc","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":883,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-02T08:44:14.597Z","text":"试试吧 我也不懂美国的法律 感觉美国的法律也挺扯淡的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5418482676d167b15bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q67861b085839c5fb2b8e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":884,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:44:47.099Z","text":"现在确实被卖美贼用烂了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5418482676d167b15bc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67861b085839c5fb2b8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5418482676d167b15bc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q751f2fbf2a1d776fb48a","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":885,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:44:51.524Z","text":"你还在抱怨，问题是抱怨没用，无论你想去还是留，赶紧想办法才对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d5d091fa1f4c0dbe368","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q751f2fbf2a1d776fb48a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q8587c3f146814c88b33c","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":886,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:46:34.180Z","text":"陪审团就是个牌坊，貌似司法公正的牌坊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q522b151c7d76eca1ff1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8587c3f146814c88b33c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q522b151c7d76eca1ff1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q3cffcc7201e32d2f6b74","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":887,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:46:45.071Z","text":"债权人来向案件所涉及资产主张债权，依据是破产法庭令说那些资产是被告私人资产。我们为了保全财产不被这些债权人分走钱，就说你的依据基于重大程序不正义的破产法庭令，不能来主张债权。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb5f3d75a68c2674fef65","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cffcc7201e32d2f6b74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5f3d75a68c2674fef65","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q1362d692a61fb67b0448","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":888,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:47:24.219Z","text":"这个得研究一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q522b151c7d76eca1ff1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1362d692a61fb67b0448","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q522b151c7d76eca1ff1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qc08f32281d2b0828b10c","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":889,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:47:39.820Z","text":"郭不是神，谁也不知道最后那根稻草到底是啥，如果稻草们都像你这么想，骆驼永远不会死","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36b573eaa895cc87a68c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc08f32281d2b0828b10c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qa576893a6f50e9a361c5","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":890,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:47:49.346Z","text":"陪审团定罪如果抽走被告动钱 9相罪名是否还成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa576893a6f50e9a361c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q017ae69e603069a01db4","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":891,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:50:10.701Z","text":"证人证词能当证据直接采用吗？证人也得拿出证据啊，不然都信口开河，诬告也太容易了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1362d692a61fb67b0448","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017ae69e603069a01db4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1362d692a61fb67b0448","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q9a2124aa180c6dae8861","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":892,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:50:37.349Z","text":"现在的问题是定罪已经成立 要打废证人证词才行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q017ae69e603069a01db4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a2124aa180c6dae8861","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017ae69e603069a01db4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q2d1716c288bf727d4ec0","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":893,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:50:40.371Z","text":"证据排除后，会导致正常陪审团的决定出现重大转变，就会无罪释放或者重审，具体需要法官基于判例来决定。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa576893a6f50e9a361c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d1716c288bf727d4ec0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa576893a6f50e9a361c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q5232839e7f0f68651bb9","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":894,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:51:04.117Z","text":"我研究一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d1716c288bf727d4ec0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5232839e7f0f68651bb9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d1716c288bf727d4ec0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q0e8b7966854fc3fbb2ec","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":895,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:51:23.283Z","text":"也就是陪审团在没有证据的情况下采信了证人证词，这是不是有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a2124aa180c6dae8861","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e8b7966854fc3fbb2ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a2124aa180c6dae8861","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qf8bdd9cb6e097ad51911","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":896,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T08:51:39.729Z","text":"这个就是得把联盟干的事往外说 他们一向的行为模式 包括郭进去之后 还在用郭的名义诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a2124aa180c6dae8861","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8bdd9cb6e097ad51911","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a2124aa180c6dae8861","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qa72beecc6b2edea03171","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":897,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T08:52:32.324Z","text":"474托雷斯的回复好像也在暗示人们，陪审团的裁定可以被推翻，快拿证据来！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa72beecc6b2edea03171","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q9f9513fcecf15950eb7a","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":898,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:52:55.104Z","text":"实体犯罪没有后，大量的虚假或者非法受害人还在支撑陪审团的被告有犯罪意图，所以必须打掉那些虚假登记，然后就没有任何实体证据支撑陪审团的被告有犯罪意图。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f9513fcecf15950eb7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qedc0c21682ef89212dee","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":899,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T08:53:15.061Z","text":"包括他们说t卡是要给律师付钱 律师到底收没收到钱  这个钱就有诈骗嫌疑 律师收钱 律师成共谋了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedc0c21682ef89212dee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q466d7a6dd44f4b6657f6","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":900,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:53:36.800Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ 你看这里说的 不行","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q466d7a6dd44f4b6657f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q33812f6a510a81660d21","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":901,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:53:39.325Z","text":"打不掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33812f6a510a81660d21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q64899c92324d9d9de39c","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":902,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:53:51.988Z","text":"所以 我明白了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64899c92324d9d9de39c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q83dadfe9e80a4bfca7b0","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":903,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:53:59.953Z","text":"只能用第四修正案毒树之果！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83dadfe9e80a4bfca7b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q392647589b70f47d1948","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":904,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:55:17.519Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  明白了 就只有第四修正案 错误抓捕一条路！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q392647589b70f47d1948","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qc9527e709c537a539d56","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":905,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T08:55:39.921Z","text":"虚假承诺 我记得一个是保证不赔钱 这个有退款机制 还一个喜币黄金挂钩 这个没做到 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一项一项打","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9527e709c537a539d56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6740b19a88ddaf182e2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9527e709c537a539d56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q06df47ff8e5aec903775","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":908,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:57:00.627Z","text":"我们不知道抓捕理由是什么 但无论抓捕理由是什么 如果在抓捕的时候 欺诈叙事的获得途径是程序不合法 那么一定是错误抓捕","edited":false,"reply_to":"q001c76cc7545de5a6bdf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06df47ff8e5aec903775","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q001c76cc7545de5a6bdf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qa190653f899dbae2c438","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":909,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:58:04.447Z","text":"螺丝哥动议里面其实已经提到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa190653f899dbae2c438","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe3728caa1a0f6ddba472","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":910,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T08:58:06.297Z","text":"这个咱们可以如实提到 就当第三方提供证据了  就如实说联盟都干了啥 有直播有录音就往上放  那些是有用证据 律师法官自己看去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6740b19a88ddaf182e2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3728caa1a0f6ddba472","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6740b19a88ddaf182e2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q42b0e04d7e6b0ff38ff4","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":911,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:58:10.718Z","text":"他说整个案件没有根基","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42b0e04d7e6b0ff38ff4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q465245b8e2531ea0e0dc","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":912,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:58:15.738Z","text":"但需要详细说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q465245b8e2531ea0e0dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qf0b4b4249d66759109b9","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":913,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:58:36.834Z","text":"不用这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3728caa1a0f6ddba472","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0b4b4249d66759109b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3728caa1a0f6ddba472","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qf17e8069efe22acef313","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":914,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:58:43.096Z","text":"直接整错误抓捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf17e8069efe22acef313","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q04052ec86a5f0e94f092","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":915,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:59:13.717Z","text":"这些我也问过，但证据状态变化后，法官依据判例判，没多大任性空间。如果没有实体犯罪，两年多过去了，你建房都没找出几个人来说自己被骗，根据判例，就是无罪释放和重审。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q64899c92324d9d9de39c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04052ec86a5f0e94f092","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64899c92324d9d9de39c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q50c32e181f273482725e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":916,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:59:41.020Z","text":"现在有了 盖尔几千人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q04052ec86a5f0e94f092","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50c32e181f273482725e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04052ec86a5f0e94f092","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q60d813de4e1ceb1a304f","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":917,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:59:50.150Z","text":"长岛126人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60d813de4e1ceb1a304f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q16353eef9a3164392d70","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":918,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T08:59:50.985Z","text":"所以我们在排出","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50c32e181f273482725e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16353eef9a3164392d70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50c32e181f273482725e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q633fc16f967edaf2e133","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":919,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T08:59:51.074Z","text":"错误抓捕 得证明债权人是受害者 这个人家能承认吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q633fc16f967edaf2e133","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q8b768d21ecbe2bbdb236","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":920,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T08:59:55.179Z","text":"但这些都可以打回去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b768d21ecbe2bbdb236","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q4e03e096713939d62abf","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":921,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:00:13.208Z","text":"恩","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16353eef9a3164392d70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e03e096713939d62abf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16353eef9a3164392d70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q9b3c9d2d682c9d9b9b87","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":922,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:00:31.536Z","text":"不 证明债权人程序不合法就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q633fc16f967edaf2e133","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b3c9d2d682c9d9b9b87","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q633fc16f967edaf2e133","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qcfe8f7d1200e49f3517d","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":923,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T09:02:02.837Z","text":"盖儿好弄 盖儿是联盟请的律师 联盟有问题 他就站不住脚  而且可以打他没有尽责的细项 给他清出去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfe8f7d1200e49f3517d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qdb2b6232efcfbbf10b30","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":924,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:02:19.652Z","text":"我觉得我们分两拨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb2b6232efcfbbf10b30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q1494710b031afa7bae36","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":925,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:02:27.187Z","text":"一波打陪审团定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1494710b031afa7bae36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qafbe3a71e21dd7d177a2","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":926,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:02:31.108Z","text":"我打错误抓捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafbe3a71e21dd7d177a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q3665554b27c33c209c70","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":927,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T09:04:08.406Z","text":"Luc带着债权人来就是向陪审团展示，你看，被告肯定有问题，有这么多人来要钱,盖儿那个更明显，就是展示受害人。如果打掉这些没多大用，检方就不会把它们弄进来，给自己制造漏洞。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3665554b27c33c209c70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qce0c2044cb0e23639eaa","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":928,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T09:04:16.313Z","text":"错误抓捕怎么打 检方要是有报案人呢 肯定里面有豆豆那样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce0c2044cb0e23639eaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q726f6c790f1101c9670b","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":929,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:04:42.305Z","text":"报案人没用 你要抓捕 你诈骗这个事情必须得圆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce0c2044cb0e23639eaa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q726f6c790f1101c9670b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce0c2044cb0e23639eaa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qa89e50727551f6d81cee","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":930,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:04:54.228Z","text":"你现在都圆不上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa89e50727551f6d81cee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qfbe51e241338e60177af","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":931,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:05:27.579Z","text":"或者本来圆上的 现在发现程序不正义 就圆不上了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe51e241338e60177af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qb923a99df6d7b4962ef7","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":932,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T09:06:49.204Z","text":"陪审团给老郭定罪，百分之九十九是因为文件388!","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb923a99df6d7b4962ef7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q11990ef88edc9711835d","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":933,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T09:07:14.306Z","text":"这些不是第三方能说的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb2b6232efcfbbf10b30","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11990ef88edc9711835d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb2b6232efcfbbf10b30","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qd6d0a905a61afd804689","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":934,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:07:40.308Z","text":"都能说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11990ef88edc9711835d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d0a905a61afd804689","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11990ef88edc9711835d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe8017532a1133dc7eee2","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":935,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T09:07:42.087Z","text":"这个就是盖儿误导陪审团这块 得看看有没有细节 他动议里有没有强调他的客户不是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3665554b27c33c209c70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8017532a1133dc7eee2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3665554b27c33c209c70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe564a20502c8c23351e4","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":936,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T09:07:43.740Z","text":"陪审团比你还专业啊？陪审团比你知道的多阿？陪审团听了一个多月证人证言脑袋瓜子不迷糊啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe564a20502c8c23351e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q785a66623647cb1692ac","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":937,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T09:08:00.723Z","text":"是啥388","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb923a99df6d7b4962ef7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q785a66623647cb1692ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb923a99df6d7b4962ef7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q1c366a7a06be2cb3cb61","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":938,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:08:27.194Z","text":"共谋命令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q785a66623647cb1692ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c366a7a06be2cb3cb61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q785a66623647cb1692ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q0a22192f00e6c33be96c","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":939,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T09:08:39.060Z","text":"文件388，法庭认定郭文贵有同谋的命令，是证人证言结束之后，陪审团打勾之前的命令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a22192f00e6c33be96c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q909c6feeb93999ff74f0","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":940,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T09:09:06.456Z","text":"我看看去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q909c6feeb93999ff74f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q2db3fe36a4d58ddd4b1e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":941,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T09:09:34.507Z","text":"前两次都有提吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8017532a1133dc7eee2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2db3fe36a4d58ddd4b1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8017532a1133dc7eee2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe177117d9af3134c80ba","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":942,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:14:18.512Z","text":"［用户 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往回琢磨了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1b880dfb96af92b6630","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qd69888defef660038d39","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":961,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:31:59.199Z","text":"微蓝不错的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1b880dfb96af92b6630","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd69888defef660038d39","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1b880dfb96af92b6630","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q7279505af9d73cc95999","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":962,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T09:32:14.908Z","text":"她是分赃不均开始报复忽悠她的同谋了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1b880dfb96af92b6630","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7279505af9d73cc95999","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1b880dfb96af92b6630","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q098fa38625d6829964d8","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":963,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T09:34:14.673Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1951577124340699152?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q098fa38625d6829964d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q00123468481ac6c8d2ae","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":964,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:35:33.847Z","text":"她不是现在说的哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd05392c9a3db64e0d1cf","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00123468481ac6c8d2ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q369a04d7c32f32f805dd","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":965,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:35:41.960Z","text":"她是24年七月份…","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q369a04d7c32f32f805dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q96212f1de9568d38a4a4","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":966,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:36:00.146Z","text":"输了官司就开始研究了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96212f1de9568d38a4a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qd4a31f6ce1cb787c63d9","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":967,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T09:36:03.662Z","text":"奥，奥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a31f6ce1cb787c63d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q0541fc1834a2499edcdc","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":968,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T09:36:16.934Z","text":"什么官司？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0541fc1834a2499edcdc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qb04d76b92398b97b225c","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":969,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:36:17.998Z","text":"我怀疑微澜拿这个当抓手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb04d76b92398b97b225c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe0ae38eb3e34f0c15330","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":970,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:36:25.062Z","text":"七哥官司","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd4a31f6ce1cb787c63d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ae38eb3e34f0c15330","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a31f6ce1cb787c63d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q03891b601a0b73fad32e","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":971,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:36:31.787Z","text":"让联盟给钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb04d76b92398b97b225c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03891b601a0b73fad32e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb04d76b92398b97b225c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-00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没想到能去法庭说 就螺丝哥独一份","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb4d35fd08da31c9b9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q6e3ba7ca65f27957ccf2","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":986,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:48:03.995Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  你那个时候没说全","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e3ba7ca65f27957ccf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qa93d9b1dbaeed368f3f8","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":987,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:48:29.526Z","text":"你如果说全了 估计你那个时候就把案子翻了哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa93d9b1dbaeed368f3f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qe17cfff8f119bab35750","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":988,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T09:53:04.914Z","text":"那郭鼓动人们登记的目的肯定不是为了坑自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd05392c9a3db64e0d1cf","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe17cfff8f119bab35750","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qfe7f1fcf9adf4050682c","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":989,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:53:50.194Z","text":"对 所以我认为 郭文贵鼓动债权人登记 妨碍司法 虚假索赔 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他在自保","edited":false,"reply_to":"q587a7ab64b7a06e996f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf03d34fa1f374489fd8d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q587a7ab64b7a06e996f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"q39b27ac75c08506aff04","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":992,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:54:55.777Z","text":"因为如果 不把这个事情闹大 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弄那几百隐士也够了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb2858f12a2c2f727657","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qf0f1e18ef79216d72222","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":999,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T09:58:43.847Z","text":"如果不搞大可能更惨","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad1f9afb3598e6982ddd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0f1e18ef79216d72222","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad1f9afb3598e6982ddd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"},{"id":"qde14b9a1ad46fe357bfd","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":1000,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T09:59:03.010Z","text":"几百个都在喜币 老郭说的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde14b9a1ad46fe357bfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000021","next_batch_id":"batch-000023"}