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走了  没有回投。我知道的一个。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a65b7667f8fea2fc7b4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7298a36bf8f691bd664f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a65b7667f8fea2fc7b4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf11524901434a81e1d95","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":43,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T13:57:08.688Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1951643386739605571?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf11524901434a81e1d95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qeaa999378f16e8de10e1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":44,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T13:58:44.391Z","text":"https://x.com/jianwuaus/status/1951623369830580228?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaa999378f16e8de10e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd2c861fddf1ca998c7e1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":45,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T14:06:45.504Z","text":"现在美国的司法现状是，坏人无论怎么穷凶极恶，就是没人敢去认真，好人，即使做到百分之百无瑕疵，也可以通过虚假指控剥夺保释权给你一直关起来。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2c861fddf1ca998c7e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q57bd6ada32a32f1828ff","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":46,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-02T14:09:30.144Z","text":"福奇，比尔盖茨，到爱破斯坦岛上去鸾童的，它们就是不被逮捕起诉，永远都在调查永远都没结果。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57bd6ada32a32f1828ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3d415834d3a0f13ac20f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":47,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T14:11:28.886Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1951626731669827708?t=KhQaawCQHvraUdZR4RQMSA&s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d415834d3a0f13ac20f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q490b168a9911b7608d51","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":48,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T14:31:41.287Z","text":"这一点从一些可以接触到三代四代的人那得到交叉验证的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9dfdd94f8027c915562","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q490b168a9911b7608d51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9dfdd94f8027c915562","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf3ec3c1035c268bdf20d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":49,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T14:32:19.704Z","text":"他们在两边下注","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3ec3c1035c268bdf20d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q56a9ce0009591bd87dbb","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":50,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-02T14:39:11.018Z","text":"真的假的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeaa999378f16e8de10e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56a9ce0009591bd87dbb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaa999378f16e8de10e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":51,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T15:12:32.845Z","text":"被你发现了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d6130cdbf5a21b837ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d6130cdbf5a21b837ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa2349a73974c12100f74","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":52,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T15:13:17.351Z","text":"还有🐦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2349a73974c12100f74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2e4d50972f5328dceabe","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":53,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T15:22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rui***］ 你可以从微澜帖子里找到更多债权人的疑点呐，她也算做点好事，师夷长技以制夷","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da058977a13e9d21a97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9c13a5347a59b175f501","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":84,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T15:46:05.723Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1951670641587089885?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c13a5347a59b175f501","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qdbc94609d83b8dbe4f8c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":85,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T15:48:59.002Z","text":"都说了人家是内部矛盾","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc94609d83b8dbe4f8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q64abe1e826e784085148","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":86,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-02T15:50:12.996Z","text":"联盟也揭不开锅了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64abe1e826e784085148","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6a883c1f0ddbc8fe7b76","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":87,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T16:02:53.979Z","text":"我明白的第一天就说了。左手打右手😆 此说法 本群 我版权😂 你们是别的说法 意思一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a883c1f0ddbc8fe7b76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q674ba1c6aa64032bb1dc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":88,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:05:00.921Z","text":"看来中共出来的内斗是本性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674ba1c6aa64032bb1dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q79715261f4d7e30ff037","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":89,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:05:10.902Z","text":"不斗活不下去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79715261f4d7e30ff037","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q16d9bb52be36c7bcd3c5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":90,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:06:01.493Z","text":"搞了半天，咱们还是后知后觉者，难怪七哥说好人总是后出手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d9bb52be36c7bcd3c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9315fd1e36c92867c80f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":91,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:08:24.545Z","text":"检方可是黑手啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9315fd1e36c92867c80f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6a73df429d225091659d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":92,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:08:41.898Z","text":"辩方律师也靠不住","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a73df429d225091659d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd76797f55510da3ece9e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":93,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:10:42.850Z","text":"可之前检方也没披露啊，他们心里有底","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4990173ec642d845660","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd76797f55510da3ece9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qed837b19883d8740cc40","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":94,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:16:19.295Z","text":"我听着可行，还是要再讨论讨论 ［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed837b19883d8740cc40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q34563248106445b9cd8e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":95,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:36:40.172Z","text":"同时抄送法院可行吗？肯定不能抄送辩方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34563248106445b9cd8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd4e817de7d017a804c80","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":96,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:37:22.901Z","text":"不能抄送法官邮箱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4e817de7d017a804c80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf315f09685be8918bb6a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":97,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:37:41.542Z","text":"法院自诉邮箱也不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf315f09685be8918bb6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q470f26999e91c1b7744c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":98,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:38:37.226Z","text":"也许检方已经公开过布雷迪证据了，之前他们不是给sabrina她们了几万份文件吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q470f26999e91c1b7744c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":99,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:39:03.733Z","text":"是辩方自己没找到有用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf3360aab26543b1696a2","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":100,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T16:51:24.217Z","text":"瑞恩，你可能要让AI帮你解读一下District Attorney’s Office for Third Judicial Dist. v. Osborne, 557 U.S. 52 (U.S. 2009)这个判例，检方在被告人被定罪以后就没有布雷迪义务了，你用布雷迪去催他没有用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3360aab26543b1696a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0b8e680e57aba83d6f4b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":101,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:51:50.229Z","text":"但是辩方不提程序不正义只能视作自动放弃权力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b8e680e57aba83d6f4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3eb11e35bb1871942f42","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":102,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T16:53:54.140Z","text":"你想用布雷迪打检方，除了要找出对老郭有利的证据，还要证明检方在老郭被定罪之前就掌握了这个证据但没有提供给辩方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3eb11e35bb1871942f42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q305ab3a84fb3a4d08f85","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":103,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T16:54:12.345Z","text":"友情提示一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q305ab3a84fb3a4d08f85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":104,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:58:54.900Z","text":"🔹 什么是 Brady 证据？\n\n根据美国最高法院在 Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963) 案中的裁定，检察官必须披露任何对被告有利并与有罪或量刑有关的证据。这类证据包括：\n\n有利于被告的无罪证据（免责证据）\n\n可以用来质疑证人可信度的证据（信用证据）\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 定罪之后是否仍需披露？\n\n是的，即使在定罪之后，检察官仍有持续性的法律义务披露 Brady 证据，特别是当这些新发现的证据可能：\n\n动摇对裁决结果的信心\n\n影响量刑结果\n\n与要求新审判、上诉或申请人身保护令有关时\n\n\n➡️ 换句话说，如果检察官在被告定罪后得知了 Brady 证据，他们有宪法和道德上的义务将其披露给辩方。\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 支持这一原则的法律依据：\n\nImbler v. Pachtman, 424 U.S. 409 (1976)：虽然检察官在庭审中的行为享有豁免权，但他们在案件审理结束后仍需遵守伦理义务。\n\n美国律师协会《职业行为规则》第3.8(g) 和 (h) 条：如果有新证据显示被定罪者“有合理可能未犯下罪行”，检察官必须披露该证据。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 如果不披露会有哪些后果？\n\n如果检察官未在定罪后披露 Brady 证据：\n\n被告可以申请：\n\n重新审理案件\n\n撤销定罪\n\n提起人身保护令（联邦或州级的 habeas corpus）\n\n\n检察官可能面临：\n\n纪律处分\n\n被律师协会调查或处罚\n\n在极端情况下，可能会被指控违反检察职责或构成不当行为","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q86aba88c06160d5844dc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":105,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T17:02:21.154Z","text":"ChatGPT案例库要更新了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86aba88c06160d5844dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q977d8b35675f1ea34fb2","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":106,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T17:02:47.441Z","text":"你看看能不能命令AI帮你分析2009年那个案例","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q977d8b35675f1ea34fb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5216b5928d5d801b14e6","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":107,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:12:26.432Z","text":"Serbrina当时只是说时间不够，却没有指出检方违反布雷迪法则，当时就可以直接要求撤销定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5216b5928d5d801b14e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qbf9ecea235c0bade0312","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":108,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:17:04.076Z","text":"我很好奇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf9ecea235c0bade0312","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q61922702b625f717c69f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":109,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:17:09.595Z","text":"为什么布雷迪没人打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61922702b625f717c69f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q40c264257f69e6a43391","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":110,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:17:23.933Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 难道法官当时说推翻陪审团的定罪 就是这个？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40c264257f69e6a43391","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":111,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:21:48.241Z","text":"如果你愿意去做，可以试试。结果估计是没人理你，但也可以试试。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q731956dbf44c472dce99","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":112,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:21:49.271Z","text":"反正法官完全没要那么说呀，感觉她就是在提示什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40c264257f69e6a43391","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731956dbf44c472dce99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40c264257f69e6a43391","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4e8d64c1a575f28e4aec","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":113,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:22:32.307Z","text":"试试估计没什么坏处，你自己查查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e8d64c1a575f28e4aec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb7636ef8ef5a255ab330","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":114,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:22:49.590Z","text":"谁有gpt的付费版，给的答案会更精准些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7636ef8ef5a255ab330","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q35b5b62c8ba915fee7a8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":115,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:26:02.529Z","text":"如果两边都没人理 那更好玩了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b5b62c8ba915fee7a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q69b5866262bdcf2f3914","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":116,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:26:05.207Z","text":"直接上法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69b5866262bdcf2f3914","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3add43e7666524db7540","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":117,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:32:31.350Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 你可能指的是美国最高法院在 2009 年作出的判决：\n《District Attorney’s Office for the Third Judicial District v. Osborne》，557 U.S. 52 (2009)。\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 Osborne 案的核心裁定：\n\n美国最高法院裁定：\n\n> “Brady 规则不适用于定罪之后的证据获取。”\n\n\n\n也就是说：\n\nBrady 义务主要适用于审判阶段（包括审前和审中）。\n\n在定罪之后，被告没有基于联邦宪法的普遍权利要求获取证据（例如为了进行 DNA 检测）。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 那么，这是否意味着检察官在定罪后完全不需要披露 Brady 证据？\n\n不是。\nOsborne 的意思是：\n\n被告在定罪之后，没有自动的宪法权利基于 Brady 案例要求获取证据来进行新测试或调查。\n\n但这并不等于检察官可以隐藏已经发现的、有可能推翻定罪的证据。\n\n\n在许多司法辖区，检察官仍然有法律和伦理义务披露那些在定罪后新发现的、有利于被告的重大证据，尤其是可能动摇原裁决公正性的证据。\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 结论总结：\n\n根据 Osborne 案，Brady 并不赋予被告在定罪后自动获得新证据的权利。\n\n但如果检察官在定罪后获得了新的 Brady 证据（如无罪证据），他们通常仍有义务披露。\n\n不披露此类证据，可能成为：\n\n提起人身保护令（Habeas corpus）的依据\n\n撤销定罪的理由\n\n控告检察不当行为的证据","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3add43e7666524db7540","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa763268c913ae53421e4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":118,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:33:57.462Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 定罪后，不需要获取新证据，但是还是要披露。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa763268c913ae53421e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd6dffbecfa813c437636","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":119,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:34:32.330Z","text":"所以瑞恩这个方案可行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3add43e7666524db7540","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6dffbecfa813c437636","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3add43e7666524db7540","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc9745f456324b5a9dc1c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":120,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:34:46.992Z","text":"检方不提，我们主动给","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9745f456324b5a9dc1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6855b4d8b314f8e3c095","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":121,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:34:57.380Z","text":"肯定可行，只不过这个案子不正常，所以估计没人理他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6855b4d8b314f8e3c095","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q23caca66698d3f174acd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":122,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:35:20.788Z","text":"没人理，就埋下了检方违反布雷迪的种子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23caca66698d3f174acd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5706d5e54072244d2e6b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":123,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:35:36.150Z","text":"检方早就被打成筛子了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5706d5e54072244d2e6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":124,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:35:52.828Z","text":"再多几枪也无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4d072445712867ead200","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":125,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:14.777Z","text":"现在的问题是，第三方介入和这个送关键证据，哪个先哪个后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d072445712867ead200","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qae3b736d0023c6454ccc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":126,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:43.088Z","text":"瑞恩自己决定呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae3b736d0023c6454ccc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa92224f22ab9e879df67","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":127,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:49.399Z","text":"所以，难道检方和法官没有默契吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa92224f22ab9e879df67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q36e385e29576dd8510b1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":128,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:51.568Z","text":"主意他想出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36e385e29576dd8510b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q53a319b689ea62a04bd5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":129,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:37:54.189Z","text":"唉，折腾半天参与的人还是太少，就怕被要钱的第三方动议淹没了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53a319b689ea62a04bd5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":130,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:38:07.132Z","text":"我觉得检方早就犯了各种失职的错误，和luc一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5140efdfec28991754fe","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":131,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:38:29.117Z","text":"微澜推下海量的点赞，现在反倒没人了，真是特么的讽刺","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5140efdfec28991754fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":132,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:39:19.030Z","text":"…这几天闲来无事无意中翻到了2022年12月份Luc在康州破产法庭发的动议，文件大意是“申请允许个别债务人以不透露姓名保密的方式提交债权人证明”……  \n\n但是问题来了…在动议最后通知列表里….为啥出现了纽约南区法院….\n\n南区法院和破产法庭债权的人注册有什么关系？为什么Luc要通知纽约南区法院？？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe5bb8d0ddc1bd14b5acb","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":133,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:39:45.914Z","text":"😆\n\n\n微澜的帖子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5bb8d0ddc1bd14b5acb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qac988856a6bfabd4c84c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":134,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:39:48.143Z","text":"死猪不怕开水烫，现在的检方肯定是要被赶走的，走之前先干一票将来好去找中共领养老钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac988856a6bfabd4c84c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6d4455339cdb973458e3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":135,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:40:51.674Z","text":"不是通知南区法院啊？\n\n是不是通知南区检察官啊？\n\n\n你们看看英文。继续睡觉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d4455339cdb973458e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q30dc52356317135468b3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":136,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:42:16.140Z","text":"绝对不是法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30dc52356317135468b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q19c19e015f156237dda8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":137,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:43:13.777Z","text":"她一年前就看破了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19c19e015f156237dda8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8acc420552766b55f203","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":138,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:43:41.870Z","text":"检察官办公室，不是法院!","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8acc420552766b55f203","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfa5ce032c7e86c46733f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":139,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:44:38.739Z","text":"就是检察官","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8acc420552766b55f203","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa5ce032c7e86c46733f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8acc420552766b55f203","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8358a78e29906b2c8a45","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":140,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:50:19.063Z","text":"所以luc一开始就跟检方勾勾搭搭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff88cc65e409a4fe0481","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8358a78e29906b2c8a45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q358bf413e5e17f54ac6e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":141,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T17:56:24.294Z","text":"老郭被误关  美国政府要给他赔钱的  👈 这一点 联盟 网红 没一个人 知道  没人科普 全是法盲","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f44258296fb3c2b6022","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358bf413e5e17f54ac6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q560c70f932f1d8df66ed","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":142,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T18:26:24.257Z","text":"是检察官办公室。美剧里面有😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce1047b173b4595ef3a8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560c70f932f1d8df66ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q94c8ea69ebdc69dac374","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":143,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T18:29:25.552Z","text":"老子恶补了7季  美剧 讲  南区法院和金融大鳄的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94c8ea69ebdc69dac374","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q29e4c6d26a3c123d2ce4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":144,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-02T22:08:35.813Z","text":"我们一直都没有检方的联系方式。估计把你这种方案一说出来，会引起很大的震动，特别是对于联盟。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb208bb54d74a5950ec93","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29e4c6d26a3c123d2ce4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfd41465fecf902f876fd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":145,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:16:02.928Z","text":"一、719號文件主要內容翻譯\n文件標識：\n•  案件號：1:23-cr-00118-AT\n•  文件號：719\n•  提交日期：2025年7月31日\n•  法庭：美國紐約南區地方法院\n•  案情：美國訴Miles Guo（郭文貴），被告\n•  引用：23 Cr. 118-1 (AT)\n命令內容：\n•  法官簽署：Analisa Torres，地方法院法官\n•  內容：\n    •  根據被告（Miles Guo）於2025年7月25日提交的信函，請求延期量刑，時間從2025年至少12月20日（ECF No. 715 at 1）。政府（檢方）反對此請求（ECF No. 718）。\n    •  裁決：被告的延期請求獲批。原定於2025年9月8日的量刑被延至2026年1月20日，上午10:00，在紐約南區地方法院500 Pearl Street，法庭15D舉行。\n    •  要求：\n        •  至2025年12月23日，被告需提交量刑前報告（Presentence Report, PSR）的實質性準確性異議，書面形式，並說明任何異議。\n        •  至2026年1月6日，政府需提交量刑意見，列出每個受害者的姓名（若有），是否需要口譯，以及口譯語言。\n    •  簽署日期：2025年7月31日，紐約，紐約\n    •  簽署人：Analisa Torres，美國地方法院法官\n備註：ECF No. 715和718分別指之前提交的延期請求（715號文件）和檢方反對意見（718號文件）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd41465fecf902f876fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc3d7acd1a4f6e226ba99","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":146,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:35:53.319Z","text":"若程序不正義被法庭明確（如佈雷迪規則違規、證據非法採集），駁回（dismissal）是可能的，特別是若證明「實質性損害」。718號文件的中共迫害證據和719號文件的受害者名單爭議為此提供了基礎，延長的審理時間（至2026年1月20日）增強了動議成功可能性。若駁回，郭可能無罪釋放；若重審，案件將進一步延長。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3d7acd1a4f6e226ba99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qde4aca69acae5320db3c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":147,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T22:37:02.864Z","text":"普恒的律师，一个小时比我一个月工资都多很多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde4aca69acae5320db3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5ef9475aa47a380defe0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":148,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T22:37:51.992Z","text":"事后要他们赔偿你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qde4aca69acae5320db3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ef9475aa47a380defe0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde4aca69acae5320db3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa01a4e509d4bc889e29a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":149,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:46:17.177Z","text":"我覺得719法官命令最重要的就是\n\n至2026年1月6日，政府需提交量刑意見，列出每個受害者的姓名（若有），是否需要口譯，以及口譯語言。\n\n这个名单如果和盖尔动员的填表，和联盟动员的填表重叠会会怎么样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa01a4e509d4bc889e29a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5beccbbf5941f1199cad","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":150,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T22:48:47.455Z","text":"破产案文件1274，老郭要求撤换卢克的动议。我没有耐心看，你们谁有耐心，可以去看看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5beccbbf5941f1199cad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6d912bc5c5fcd83e29bf","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":151,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T22:54:28.521Z","text":"这是他们的收费标准，不是工作人员的工资","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06a6b6950c7537b8948c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d912bc5c5fcd83e29bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf6fe5176948b9fc79f11","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":152,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:58:13.674Z","text":"兄弟们，围绕受害者名单是不是可以做文章？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6fe5176948b9fc79f11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":153,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T23:00:32.918Z","text":"不是几千受害者么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfb287a75505f51d59f9d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":154,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T23:01:18.971Z","text":"这不需要明确？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb287a75505f51d59f9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3298d65782fdf689139f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":155,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T23:02:31.674Z","text":"检方不明确啊！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3298d65782fdf689139f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q488fad3088e6a01cf058","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":156,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T23:03:09.444Z","text":"我的意思是法官命令是针对这几千受害者么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions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轮不到他们只要露过脸的 都没机会了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q592ccdc271f132c17997","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2443d271d91684504924","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":165,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-03T00:19:10.540Z","text":"Attorney 不是律师的意思吗？怎么变成了检查官办公室呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06c1081aaae901928553","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2443d271d91684504924","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q58a33a2127d797717c3f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":166,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:36:21.815Z","text":"哈哈 就是检察官哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2443d271d91684504924","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58a33a2127d797717c3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2443d271d91684504924","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":167,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:37:22.058Z","text":"这两货不是坏种？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q80f020c7e48bbe52593a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":168,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:38:44.778Z","text":"当然是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80f020c7e48bbe52593a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q656aa4315d90befd548b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":169,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:38:51.907Z","text":"我操 我查了一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q656aa4315d90befd548b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q18b7ecdcab628c704141","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":170,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:38:59.698Z","text":"检方还不止违反第四修正案 错误抓捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18b7ecdcab628c704141","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q51fdae56535c7362626d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":171,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:39:05.959Z","text":"还她妈违反第五修正案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51fdae56535c7362626d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q1afae91b904deb01519b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":172,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:39:08.005Z","text":"错误定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1afae91b904deb01519b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc74733cc8df4f5b07fe9","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":173,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:39:27.156Z","text":"检方这样劣迹斑斑居然没人提？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc74733cc8df4f5b07fe9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9de731293303c518f1aa","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":174,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:40:02.240Z","text":"那个干扰司法就不应该存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9de731293303c518f1aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":175,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:40:07.997Z","text":"你说出来以后 卡被骗的咋弄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe34a3fe7bd1716fa1441","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":176,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:42:44.054Z","text":"我教你怎么打青藤","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe34a3fe7bd1716fa1441","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qcf25efc229d8cbb86e9c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":177,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:42:48.345Z","text":"想听吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf25efc229d8cbb86e9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa24e34390b44c0d29e4b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":178,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:43:17.046Z","text":"唉 联盟真的[屏蔽词]都是法盲 也没有学习能力","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa24e34390b44c0d29e4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9986533f95edf46dae03","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":179,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:44:08.984Z","text":"我没被亏 就是卖晚了 不然这几年吃喝不愁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9986533f95edf46dae03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6aaaf75b6bfd5cb9bf7f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":180,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:55:54.367Z","text":"这钱肯定不会管了 不知道敌人手里有多少币","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aaaf75b6bfd5cb9bf7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":181,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T01:43:05.229Z","text":"检察官就是政府雇佣的律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2443d271d91684504924","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2443d271d91684504924","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q83678fe7050e6b5fe1e4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":182,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-03T01:51:57.303Z","text":"是公务员  有编制 😆  没有外面的律师赚的多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83678fe7050e6b5fe1e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd16626a4677f3b6f6214","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":183,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T02:26:09.305Z","text":"[屏蔽词]都在联盟群舔腚呢","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd16626a4677f3b6f6214","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":184,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T02:28:02.946Z","text":"我很想看看 郭总出来以后 这群人的嘴脸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q1be5ba209b38c87629ca","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":185,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-03T02:31:22.224Z","text":"就像孙悟空回来之后白骨精现原形。\n唉，可惜现在的小孩好象看不到动画片《西游记》吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1be5ba209b38c87629ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa658502a3298fbd5b985","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":186,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T02:33:58.645Z","text":"我有种感觉 什么时候突然这群人消失了 郭总就要出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa658502a3298fbd5b985","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q991ebe40f2a3d0ff3f23","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":187,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-03T02:52:12.243Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1951838364690436567?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q991ebe40f2a3d0ff3f23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8affd2baef9957af0c74","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":188,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-03T03:02:55.601Z","text":"https://x.com/hei68077/status/1951788832623665496?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8affd2baef9957af0c74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q37bf364bac4122868cc1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":189,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T03:03:46.297Z","text":"把我拉黑的就是之前羊帮的那几个人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37bf364bac4122868cc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb5fcf3aec8b7ebce7ebc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":190,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-03T04:01:42.574Z","text":"这些人 天天就是文贵说了啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5fcf3aec8b7ebce7ebc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9fd1e04b51e9d8fb4f6d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":191,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T04:34:14.972Z","text":"黄河边 这个问题 一直便秘到现在！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fd1e04b51e9d8fb4f6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":192,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:34:02.802Z","text":"你得转一个弯：你不能臆想别人和你的思路图是吻合的，好像你抽出自己思路图里的一个重要细节，别人就能明白你想表达什么。事实上，我们这个立场的人，对案件的理解，从整个框架到切入点，跟你们迥异。你空甩一个对债权人怎么看，没细看过你们上下文的人大概率完全不理解你们想说什么，而这是你、包括螺丝经常误解别人的点（尤其反郭这边的人；喜国散户跟你们至少框架上有些见解一致）好像大家在回避你们的问题。你如果真想黄回应，你得把具体的思路图仔细对他讲解，尤其是你们的核心切入点，你们认为债权人这块儿是郭最初被抓捕的核心所在（而反郭的人本身则根本未必这么看，所以你甩这么一句大家没进过群的完全不知道你想表达什么），然后让他谈谈是不是这么回事，他要是有闲心可能会转述给懂法律的问问，因为他本人基本也是个现炒现卖的外行。但毕竟他现在不轻易做节目了，有没有心不好说。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5d34b168fe165686419","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复消息为附件，不在归档范围","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qec459dad6c17d8a5a96f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":193,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:35:45.978Z","text":"这么问就没意义了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec459dad6c17d8a5a96f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":194,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:36:39.624Z","text":"可是你问一个别人连你问题是什么意思都搞不清的话题，意义是？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q056856a36bdd97487041","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":195,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:37:04.203Z","text":"知道啥就说啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q056856a36bdd97487041","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q93912b4d81155736f3e5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":196,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:37:46.533Z","text":"我判断他大概率不知道，所以无意义回复列位。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93912b4d81155736f3e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc25fa2e67550b26e1796","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":197,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:38:18.079Z","text":"不知道是可能性之一 还有一种可能性是知道很多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93912b4d81155736f3e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc25fa2e67550b26e1796","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93912b4d81155736f3e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qae8c09a14ba49788c3e8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":198,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:38:20.595Z","text":"但不便多说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae8c09a14ba49788c3e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd85dbed03c56e3b593bc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":199,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:39:52.670Z","text":"也是；大开思维是支撑信念的支柱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd85dbed03c56e3b593bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3c9ac866ece0c30a838a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":200,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T06:40:36.008Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  瑞恩昨天聊的新思路，你有啥看法","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c9ac866ece0c30a838a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000022","next_batch_id":"batch-000024"}