{"id":"batch-000023","number":23,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-08-02T09:59:16.901Z","date_end":"2025-08-04T06:37:53.675Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 023 (Aug 2, 2025 – Aug 4, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants discussed post-conviction relief strategies in case 1:23-cr-00118-AT, debating District Attorney’s Office v. Osborne and the post-conviction applicability of the Brady rule. Members examined Southern District of New York orders ECF No. 715, 718, and 719, which postponed sentencing to Jan 20, 2026. Severe disagreements emerged over devastating financial losses in Himalaya Coin and G-series investments, with participants disputing whether alliance leaders mismanaged funds or whether contributors bore personal risk.","guide_en":[{"title":"Discussing Case Evidence and Creditor Identity Disputes Involving Anti-Guo Groups","description":"Participants discuss creditor identities and potential procedural unfairness involving opposition factions.","message_ids":["q03d1c0ff28e94fcda24f","qc45257f26fbd52a8c5ec","q262147540e9bb5b1a461"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q03d1c0ff28e94fcda24f","summary_en":"rui*** affirms the ongoing discussion point regarding case proceedings."},{"message_id":"qc45257f26fbd52a8c5ec","summary_en":"rui*** posits a scenario where the creditors consist entirely of the opposition strike team."},{"message_id":"q262147540e9bb5b1a461","summary_en":"rui*** argues that under such circumstances there might not even be an opportunity to challenge procedural injustice."}]},{"title":"Following Online Posts and Motions to Explore Creditor Filings and Court Strategy","description":"Participants examine creditor motions mentioned in social media posts and discuss litigation filings.","message_ids":["qed31a85bbf0e5355d83c","q8e83bc0e7a33dae8876b","q1ec627140a115bd165e3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qed31a85bbf0e5355d83c","summary_en":"rui*** notes a post stating that Luc's creditor motion tagged the Southern District of New York court."},{"message_id":"q8e83bc0e7a33dae8876b","summary_en":"rui*** tells another participant to stop rambling about tangential matters."},{"message_id":"q1ec627140a115bd165e3","summary_en":"rui*** contends that consequences depend on whether motions are submitted and forfeiture orders are issued."}]},{"title":"Debating the Post-Conviction Applicability of the Brady Rule Using Judicial Precedent","description":"Participants debate whether prosecutors retain Brady disclosure obligations after conviction under judicial precedent.","message_ids":["qf3360aab26543b1696a2","q0b8e680e57aba83d6f4b","q3eb11e35bb1871942f42"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf3360aab26543b1696a2","summary_en":"pz0*** cites District Attorney’s Office for Third Judicial Dist. v. 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Rule）在定罪后的适用性、向检方与辩方提交证据的机制、纽约南区法院延期量刑等命令，以及法官立场与未来上诉、赦免的前景；部分成员主张积极递交证据以抗辩程序不正义，另一些成员则对法律救济的效果持悲观态度。在经济与投资层面，参与者集中交流了对G系列项目、喜币及相关卡类投资的惨重亏损与套牢经历，引发了针对早期宣传兑现度、承诺真实性及是否能追回本金的激烈辩论。社群内部更就参与动机（追求发财还是理想主义）、联盟管理层的开销与追偿责任爆发严正对立，部分人质问债务偿还与管理失职，另一部分人则主张投资属于个人自负盈亏的选择，同时亦有参与者回顾了早期经历及在国内面临的调查与谈话。","guide":[{"title":"讨论涉案证据问题与债权人身份争议（包括灭爆小组及涉CCP证据的关联性）","message_ids":["q03d1c0ff28e94fcda24f","qc45257f26fbd52a8c5ec","q262147540e9bb5b1a461"]},{"title":"关注微蓝推文与动议线索，探讨债权人动议及法庭应对策略","message_ids":["qed31a85bbf0e5355d83c","q8e83bc0e7a33dae8876b","q1ec627140a115bd165e3"]},{"title":"援引司法判例深入辩论布雷迪法则（Brady 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是没证据 表明跟这个诈骗案有关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5096609fe001ccdd0af5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qab7bbd97d91193a3d979","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":8,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T10:01:37.254Z","text":"确实没有证据呀，都是heresay，连个证人都没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5096609fe001ccdd0af5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab7bbd97d91193a3d979","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5096609fe001ccdd0af5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9f382561cdc655955526","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":9,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-02T10:01:50.207Z","text":"后来不也让提交了 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rui***］ 你可以从微澜帖子里找到更多债权人的疑点呐，她也算做点好事，师夷长技以制夷","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da058977a13e9d21a97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9c13a5347a59b175f501","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":84,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T15:46:05.723Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1951670641587089885?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c13a5347a59b175f501","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qdbc94609d83b8dbe4f8c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":85,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T15:48:59.002Z","text":"都说了人家是内部矛盾","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc94609d83b8dbe4f8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q64abe1e826e784085148","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":86,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-02T15:50:12.996Z","text":"联盟也揭不开锅了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64abe1e826e784085148","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6a883c1f0ddbc8fe7b76","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":87,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T16:02:53.979Z","text":"我明白的第一天就说了。左手打右手😆 此说法 本群 我版权😂 你们是别的说法 意思一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a883c1f0ddbc8fe7b76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q064cdf1dd7a95d8c0f2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q674ba1c6aa64032bb1dc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":88,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:05:00.921Z","text":"看来中共出来的内斗是本性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674ba1c6aa64032bb1dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q79715261f4d7e30ff037","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":89,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:05:10.902Z","text":"不斗活不下去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79715261f4d7e30ff037","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q16d9bb52be36c7bcd3c5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":90,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:06:01.493Z","text":"搞了半天，咱们还是后知后觉者，难怪七哥说好人总是后出手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d9bb52be36c7bcd3c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9315fd1e36c92867c80f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":91,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:08:24.545Z","text":"检方可是黑手啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9315fd1e36c92867c80f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6a73df429d225091659d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":92,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:08:41.898Z","text":"辩方律师也靠不住","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a73df429d225091659d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd76797f55510da3ece9e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":93,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:10:42.850Z","text":"可之前检方也没披露啊，他们心里有底","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4990173ec642d845660","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd76797f55510da3ece9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qed837b19883d8740cc40","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":94,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:16:19.295Z","text":"我听着可行，还是要再讨论讨论 ［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed837b19883d8740cc40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q34563248106445b9cd8e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":95,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:36:40.172Z","text":"同时抄送法院可行吗？肯定不能抄送辩方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34563248106445b9cd8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd4e817de7d017a804c80","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":96,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:37:22.901Z","text":"不能抄送法官邮箱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4e817de7d017a804c80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf315f09685be8918bb6a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":97,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:37:41.542Z","text":"法院自诉邮箱也不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf315f09685be8918bb6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q470f26999e91c1b7744c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":98,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:38:37.226Z","text":"也许检方已经公开过布雷迪证据了，之前他们不是给sabrina她们了几万份文件吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q470f26999e91c1b7744c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":99,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:39:03.733Z","text":"是辩方自己没找到有用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf3360aab26543b1696a2","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":100,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T16:51:24.217Z","text":"瑞恩，你可能要让AI帮你解读一下District Attorney’s Office for Third Judicial Dist. v. Osborne, 557 U.S. 52 (U.S. 2009)这个判例，检方在被告人被定罪以后就没有布雷迪义务了，你用布雷迪去催他没有用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3360aab26543b1696a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0b8e680e57aba83d6f4b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":101,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T16:51:50.229Z","text":"但是辩方不提程序不正义只能视作自动放弃权力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b8e680e57aba83d6f4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01965ff22f0e7d4f745b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3eb11e35bb1871942f42","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":102,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T16:53:54.140Z","text":"你想用布雷迪打检方，除了要找出对老郭有利的证据，还要证明检方在老郭被定罪之前就掌握了这个证据但没有提供给辩方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3eb11e35bb1871942f42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q305ab3a84fb3a4d08f85","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":103,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T16:54:12.345Z","text":"友情提示一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q305ab3a84fb3a4d08f85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":104,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T16:58:54.900Z","text":"🔹 什么是 Brady 证据？\n\n根据美国最高法院在 Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963) 案中的裁定，检察官必须披露任何对被告有利并与有罪或量刑有关的证据。这类证据包括：\n\n有利于被告的无罪证据（免责证据）\n\n可以用来质疑证人可信度的证据（信用证据）\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 定罪之后是否仍需披露？\n\n是的，即使在定罪之后，检察官仍有持续性的法律义务披露 Brady 证据，特别是当这些新发现的证据可能：\n\n动摇对裁决结果的信心\n\n影响量刑结果\n\n与要求新审判、上诉或申请人身保护令有关时\n\n\n➡️ 换句话说，如果检察官在被告定罪后得知了 Brady 证据，他们有宪法和道德上的义务将其披露给辩方。\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 支持这一原则的法律依据：\n\nImbler v. Pachtman, 424 U.S. 409 (1976)：虽然检察官在庭审中的行为享有豁免权，但他们在案件审理结束后仍需遵守伦理义务。\n\n美国律师协会《职业行为规则》第3.8(g) 和 (h) 条：如果有新证据显示被定罪者“有合理可能未犯下罪行”，检察官必须披露该证据。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 如果不披露会有哪些后果？\n\n如果检察官未在定罪后披露 Brady 证据：\n\n被告可以申请：\n\n重新审理案件\n\n撤销定罪\n\n提起人身保护令（联邦或州级的 habeas corpus）\n\n\n检察官可能面临：\n\n纪律处分\n\n被律师协会调查或处罚\n\n在极端情况下，可能会被指控违反检察职责或构成不当行为","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q86aba88c06160d5844dc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":105,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T17:02:21.154Z","text":"ChatGPT案例库要更新了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86aba88c06160d5844dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddef9d3f0953f8615f46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q977d8b35675f1ea34fb2","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":106,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-02T17:02:47.441Z","text":"你看看能不能命令AI帮你分析2009年那个案例","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q977d8b35675f1ea34fb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5216b5928d5d801b14e6","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":107,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:12:26.432Z","text":"Serbrina当时只是说时间不够，却没有指出检方违反布雷迪法则，当时就可以直接要求撤销定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5216b5928d5d801b14e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qbf9ecea235c0bade0312","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":108,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:17:04.076Z","text":"我很好奇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf9ecea235c0bade0312","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q61922702b625f717c69f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":109,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:17:09.595Z","text":"为什么布雷迪没人打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61922702b625f717c69f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q40c264257f69e6a43391","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":110,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:17:23.933Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 难道法官当时说推翻陪审团的定罪 就是这个？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40c264257f69e6a43391","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":111,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:21:48.241Z","text":"如果你愿意去做，可以试试。结果估计是没人理你，但也可以试试。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q731956dbf44c472dce99","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":112,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:21:49.271Z","text":"反正法官完全没要那么说呀，感觉她就是在提示什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40c264257f69e6a43391","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731956dbf44c472dce99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40c264257f69e6a43391","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4e8d64c1a575f28e4aec","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":113,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:22:32.307Z","text":"试试估计没什么坏处，你自己查查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e8d64c1a575f28e4aec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb7636ef8ef5a255ab330","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":114,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:22:49.590Z","text":"谁有gpt的付费版，给的答案会更精准些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7636ef8ef5a255ab330","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q35b5b62c8ba915fee7a8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":115,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:26:02.529Z","text":"如果两边都没人理 那更好玩了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b5b62c8ba915fee7a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b2088b55e230a8a784f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q69b5866262bdcf2f3914","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":116,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:26:05.207Z","text":"直接上法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69b5866262bdcf2f3914","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3add43e7666524db7540","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":117,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:32:31.350Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 你可能指的是美国最高法院在 2009 年作出的判决：\n《District Attorney’s Office for the Third Judicial District v. Osborne》，557 U.S. 52 (2009)。\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 Osborne 案的核心裁定：\n\n美国最高法院裁定：\n\n> “Brady 规则不适用于定罪之后的证据获取。”\n\n\n\n也就是说：\n\nBrady 义务主要适用于审判阶段（包括审前和审中）。\n\n在定罪之后，被告没有基于联邦宪法的普遍权利要求获取证据（例如为了进行 DNA 检测）。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 那么，这是否意味着检察官在定罪后完全不需要披露 Brady 证据？\n\n不是。\nOsborne 的意思是：\n\n被告在定罪之后，没有自动的宪法权利基于 Brady 案例要求获取证据来进行新测试或调查。\n\n但这并不等于检察官可以隐藏已经发现的、有可能推翻定罪的证据。\n\n\n在许多司法辖区，检察官仍然有法律和伦理义务披露那些在定罪后新发现的、有利于被告的重大证据，尤其是可能动摇原裁决公正性的证据。\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 结论总结：\n\n根据 Osborne 案，Brady 并不赋予被告在定罪后自动获得新证据的权利。\n\n但如果检察官在定罪后获得了新的 Brady 证据（如无罪证据），他们通常仍有义务披露。\n\n不披露此类证据，可能成为：\n\n提起人身保护令（Habeas corpus）的依据\n\n撤销定罪的理由\n\n控告检察不当行为的证据","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3add43e7666524db7540","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa763268c913ae53421e4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":118,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:33:57.462Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 定罪后，不需要获取新证据，但是还是要披露。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa763268c913ae53421e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd6dffbecfa813c437636","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":119,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:34:32.330Z","text":"所以瑞恩这个方案可行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3add43e7666524db7540","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6dffbecfa813c437636","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3add43e7666524db7540","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc9745f456324b5a9dc1c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":120,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:34:46.992Z","text":"检方不提，我们主动给","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9745f456324b5a9dc1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6855b4d8b314f8e3c095","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":121,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:34:57.380Z","text":"肯定可行，只不过这个案子不正常，所以估计没人理他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6855b4d8b314f8e3c095","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q23caca66698d3f174acd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":122,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:35:20.788Z","text":"没人理，就埋下了检方违反布雷迪的种子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23caca66698d3f174acd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5706d5e54072244d2e6b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":123,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:35:36.150Z","text":"检方早就被打成筛子了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5706d5e54072244d2e6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":124,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:35:52.828Z","text":"再多几枪也无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4d072445712867ead200","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":125,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:14.777Z","text":"现在的问题是，第三方介入和这个送关键证据，哪个先哪个后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d072445712867ead200","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qae3b736d0023c6454ccc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":126,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:43.088Z","text":"瑞恩自己决定呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae3b736d0023c6454ccc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa92224f22ab9e879df67","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":127,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:49.399Z","text":"所以，难道检方和法官没有默契吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa92224f22ab9e879df67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q36e385e29576dd8510b1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":128,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:36:51.568Z","text":"主意他想出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36e385e29576dd8510b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q53a319b689ea62a04bd5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":129,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:37:54.189Z","text":"唉，折腾半天参与的人还是太少，就怕被要钱的第三方动议淹没了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53a319b689ea62a04bd5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":130,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T17:38:07.132Z","text":"我觉得检方早就犯了各种失职的错误，和luc一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5140efdfec28991754fe","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":131,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:38:29.117Z","text":"微澜推下海量的点赞，现在反倒没人了，真是特么的讽刺","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5140efdfec28991754fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":132,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:39:19.030Z","text":"…这几天闲来无事无意中翻到了2022年12月份Luc在康州破产法庭发的动议，文件大意是“申请允许个别债务人以不透露姓名保密的方式提交债权人证明”……  \n\n但是问题来了…在动议最后通知列表里….为啥出现了纽约南区法院….\n\n南区法院和破产法庭债权的人注册有什么关系？为什么Luc要通知纽约南区法院？？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe5bb8d0ddc1bd14b5acb","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":133,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:39:45.914Z","text":"😆\n\n\n微澜的帖子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5bb8d0ddc1bd14b5acb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qac988856a6bfabd4c84c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":134,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:39:48.143Z","text":"死猪不怕开水烫，现在的检方肯定是要被赶走的，走之前先干一票将来好去找中共领养老钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac988856a6bfabd4c84c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dcbe02eb58730033e81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6d4455339cdb973458e3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":135,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:40:51.674Z","text":"不是通知南区法院啊？\n\n是不是通知南区检察官啊？\n\n\n你们看看英文。继续睡觉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d4455339cdb973458e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q30dc52356317135468b3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":136,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:42:16.140Z","text":"绝对不是法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30dc52356317135468b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q19c19e015f156237dda8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":137,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:43:13.777Z","text":"她一年前就看破了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19c19e015f156237dda8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f122d4704a30b78e95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8acc420552766b55f203","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":138,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T17:43:41.870Z","text":"检察官办公室，不是法院!","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8acc420552766b55f203","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfa5ce032c7e86c46733f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":139,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-02T17:44:38.739Z","text":"就是检察官","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8acc420552766b55f203","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa5ce032c7e86c46733f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8acc420552766b55f203","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8358a78e29906b2c8a45","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":140,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-02T17:50:19.063Z","text":"所以luc一开始就跟检方勾勾搭搭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff88cc65e409a4fe0481","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8358a78e29906b2c8a45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q358bf413e5e17f54ac6e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":141,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T17:56:24.294Z","text":"老郭被误关  美国政府要给他赔钱的  👈 这一点 联盟 网红 没一个人 知道  没人科普 全是法盲","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f44258296fb3c2b6022","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358bf413e5e17f54ac6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q560c70f932f1d8df66ed","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":142,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T18:26:24.257Z","text":"是检察官办公室。美剧里面有😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce1047b173b4595ef3a8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560c70f932f1d8df66ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q94c8ea69ebdc69dac374","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":143,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T18:29:25.552Z","text":"老子恶补了7季  美剧 讲  南区法院和金融大鳄的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94c8ea69ebdc69dac374","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q29e4c6d26a3c123d2ce4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":144,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-02T22:08:35.813Z","text":"我们一直都没有检方的联系方式。估计把你这种方案一说出来，会引起很大的震动，特别是对于联盟。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb208bb54d74a5950ec93","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29e4c6d26a3c123d2ce4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfd41465fecf902f876fd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":145,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:16:02.928Z","text":"一、719號文件主要內容翻譯\n文件標識：\n•  案件號：1:23-cr-00118-AT\n•  文件號：719\n•  提交日期：2025年7月31日\n•  法庭：美國紐約南區地方法院\n•  案情：美國訴Miles Guo（郭文貴），被告\n•  引用：23 Cr. 118-1 (AT)\n命令內容：\n•  法官簽署：Analisa Torres，地方法院法官\n•  內容：\n    •  根據被告（Miles Guo）於2025年7月25日提交的信函，請求延期量刑，時間從2025年至少12月20日（ECF No. 715 at 1）。政府（檢方）反對此請求（ECF No. 718）。\n    •  裁決：被告的延期請求獲批。原定於2025年9月8日的量刑被延至2026年1月20日，上午10:00，在紐約南區地方法院500 Pearl Street，法庭15D舉行。\n    •  要求：\n        •  至2025年12月23日，被告需提交量刑前報告（Presentence Report, PSR）的實質性準確性異議，書面形式，並說明任何異議。\n        •  至2026年1月6日，政府需提交量刑意見，列出每個受害者的姓名（若有），是否需要口譯，以及口譯語言。\n    •  簽署日期：2025年7月31日，紐約，紐約\n    •  簽署人：Analisa Torres，美國地方法院法官\n備註：ECF No. 715和718分別指之前提交的延期請求（715號文件）和檢方反對意見（718號文件）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd41465fecf902f876fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc3d7acd1a4f6e226ba99","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":146,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:35:53.319Z","text":"若程序不正義被法庭明確（如佈雷迪規則違規、證據非法採集），駁回（dismissal）是可能的，特別是若證明「實質性損害」。718號文件的中共迫害證據和719號文件的受害者名單爭議為此提供了基礎，延長的審理時間（至2026年1月20日）增強了動議成功可能性。若駁回，郭可能無罪釋放；若重審，案件將進一步延長。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3d7acd1a4f6e226ba99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qde4aca69acae5320db3c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":147,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T22:37:02.864Z","text":"普恒的律师，一个小时比我一个月工资都多很多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde4aca69acae5320db3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5ef9475aa47a380defe0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":148,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-02T22:37:51.992Z","text":"事后要他们赔偿你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qde4aca69acae5320db3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ef9475aa47a380defe0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde4aca69acae5320db3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa01a4e509d4bc889e29a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":149,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:46:17.177Z","text":"我覺得719法官命令最重要的就是\n\n至2026年1月6日，政府需提交量刑意見，列出每個受害者的姓名（若有），是否需要口譯，以及口譯語言。\n\n这个名单如果和盖尔动员的填表，和联盟动员的填表重叠会会怎么样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa01a4e509d4bc889e29a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5beccbbf5941f1199cad","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":150,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T22:48:47.455Z","text":"破产案文件1274，老郭要求撤换卢克的动议。我没有耐心看，你们谁有耐心，可以去看看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5beccbbf5941f1199cad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6d912bc5c5fcd83e29bf","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":151,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-02T22:54:28.521Z","text":"这是他们的收费标准，不是工作人员的工资","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06a6b6950c7537b8948c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d912bc5c5fcd83e29bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf6fe5176948b9fc79f11","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":152,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T22:58:13.674Z","text":"兄弟们，围绕受害者名单是不是可以做文章？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6fe5176948b9fc79f11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":153,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T23:00:32.918Z","text":"不是几千受害者么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfb287a75505f51d59f9d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":154,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T23:01:18.971Z","text":"这不需要明确？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb287a75505f51d59f9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3298d65782fdf689139f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":155,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-02T23:02:31.674Z","text":"检方不明确啊！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3298d65782fdf689139f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ecc5d76e43ca0f7be23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q488fad3088e6a01cf058","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":156,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-02T23:03:09.444Z","text":"我的意思是法官命令是针对这几千受害者么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messa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轮不到他们只要露过脸的 都没机会了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q592ccdc271f132c17997","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2443d271d91684504924","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":165,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-03T00:19:10.540Z","text":"Attorney 不是律师的意思吗？怎么变成了检查官办公室呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06c1081aaae901928553","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2443d271d91684504924","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q58a33a2127d797717c3f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":166,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:36:21.815Z","text":"哈哈 就是检察官哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2443d271d91684504924","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58a33a2127d797717c3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2443d271d91684504924","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":167,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:37:22.058Z","text":"这两货不是坏种？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8886bc098a9c2d94cc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q80f020c7e48bbe52593a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":168,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:38:44.778Z","text":"当然是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80f020c7e48bbe52593a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaa353ac23762e8099ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q656aa4315d90befd548b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":169,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:38:51.907Z","text":"我操 我查了一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q656aa4315d90befd548b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q18b7ecdcab628c704141","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":170,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:38:59.698Z","text":"检方还不止违反第四修正案 错误抓捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18b7ecdcab628c704141","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q51fdae56535c7362626d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":171,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:39:05.959Z","text":"还她妈违反第五修正案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51fdae56535c7362626d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q1afae91b904deb01519b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":172,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:39:08.005Z","text":"错误定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1afae91b904deb01519b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc74733cc8df4f5b07fe9","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":173,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:39:27.156Z","text":"检方这样劣迹斑斑居然没人提？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc74733cc8df4f5b07fe9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9de731293303c518f1aa","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":174,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:40:02.240Z","text":"那个干扰司法就不应该存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9de731293303c518f1aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":175,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:40:07.997Z","text":"你说出来以后 卡被骗的咋弄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe34a3fe7bd1716fa1441","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":176,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:42:44.054Z","text":"我教你怎么打青藤","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe34a3fe7bd1716fa1441","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb41b66abd29a7e6b96bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qcf25efc229d8cbb86e9c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":177,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:42:48.345Z","text":"想听吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf25efc229d8cbb86e9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa24e34390b44c0d29e4b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":178,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T00:43:17.046Z","text":"唉 联盟真的[屏蔽词]都是法盲 也没有学习能力","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa24e34390b44c0d29e4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9986533f95edf46dae03","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":179,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:44:08.984Z","text":"我没被亏 就是卖晚了 不然这几年吃喝不愁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9986533f95edf46dae03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6aaaf75b6bfd5cb9bf7f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":180,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T00:55:54.367Z","text":"这钱肯定不会管了 不知道敌人手里有多少币","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aaaf75b6bfd5cb9bf7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":181,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T01:43:05.229Z","text":"检察官就是政府雇佣的律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2443d271d91684504924","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2443d271d91684504924","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q83678fe7050e6b5fe1e4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":182,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-03T01:51:57.303Z","text":"是公务员  有编制 😆  没有外面的律师赚的多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83678fe7050e6b5fe1e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q402fcc25f1a8338672e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd16626a4677f3b6f6214","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":183,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T02:26:09.305Z","text":"[屏蔽词]都在联盟群舔腚呢","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd16626a4677f3b6f6214","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":184,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T02:28:02.946Z","text":"我很想看看 郭总出来以后 这群人的嘴脸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q1be5ba209b38c87629ca","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":185,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-03T02:31:22.224Z","text":"就像孙悟空回来之后白骨精现原形。\n唉，可惜现在的小孩好象看不到动画片《西游记》吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1be5ba209b38c87629ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00e3c0d12f906682c31f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa658502a3298fbd5b985","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":186,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T02:33:58.645Z","text":"我有种感觉 什么时候突然这群人消失了 郭总就要出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa658502a3298fbd5b985","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q991ebe40f2a3d0ff3f23","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":187,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-03T02:52:12.243Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1951838364690436567?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q991ebe40f2a3d0ff3f23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8affd2baef9957af0c74","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":188,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-03T03:02:55.601Z","text":"https://x.com/hei68077/status/1951788832623665496?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8affd2baef9957af0c74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q37bf364bac4122868cc1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":189,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T03:03:46.297Z","text":"把我拉黑的就是之前羊帮的那几个人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37bf364bac4122868cc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb5fcf3aec8b7ebce7ebc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":190,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-03T04:01:42.574Z","text":"这些人 天天就是文贵说了啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5fcf3aec8b7ebce7ebc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9fd1e04b51e9d8fb4f6d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":191,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T04:34:14.972Z","text":"黄河边 这个问题 一直便秘到现在！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fd1e04b51e9d8fb4f6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":192,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:34:02.802Z","text":"你得转一个弯：你不能臆想别人和你的思路图是吻合的，好像你抽出自己思路图里的一个重要细节，别人就能明白你想表达什么。事实上，我们这个立场的人，对案件的理解，从整个框架到切入点，跟你们迥异。你空甩一个对债权人怎么看，没细看过你们上下文的人大概率完全不理解你们想说什么，而这是你、包括螺丝经常误解别人的点（尤其反郭这边的人；喜国散户跟你们至少框架上有些见解一致）好像大家在回避你们的问题。你如果真想黄回应，你得把具体的思路图仔细对他讲解，尤其是你们的核心切入点，你们认为债权人这块儿是郭最初被抓捕的核心所在（而反郭的人本身则根本未必这么看，所以你甩这么一句大家没进过群的完全不知道你想表达什么），然后让他谈谈是不是这么回事，他要是有闲心可能会转述给懂法律的问问，因为他本人基本也是个现炒现卖的外行。但毕竟他现在不轻易做节目了，有没有心不好说。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5d34b168fe165686419","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qec459dad6c17d8a5a96f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":193,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:35:45.978Z","text":"这么问就没意义了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec459dad6c17d8a5a96f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdb5bb55241cf21b4724","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":194,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:36:39.624Z","text":"可是你问一个别人连你问题是什么意思都搞不清的话题，意义是？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q056856a36bdd97487041","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":195,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:37:04.203Z","text":"知道啥就说啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q056856a36bdd97487041","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0957af2ed3cb5e42eccf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q93912b4d81155736f3e5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":196,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:37:46.533Z","text":"我判断他大概率不知道，所以无意义回复列位。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93912b4d81155736f3e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc25fa2e67550b26e1796","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":197,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:38:18.079Z","text":"不知道是可能性之一 还有一种可能性是知道很多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93912b4d81155736f3e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc25fa2e67550b26e1796","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93912b4d81155736f3e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qae8c09a14ba49788c3e8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":198,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-03T06:38:20.595Z","text":"但不便多说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae8c09a14ba49788c3e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd85dbed03c56e3b593bc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":199,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T06:39:52.670Z","text":"也是；大开思维是支撑信念的支柱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd85dbed03c56e3b593bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3c9ac866ece0c30a838a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":200,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T06:40:36.008Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  瑞恩昨天聊的新思路，你有啥看法","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c9ac866ece0c30a838a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000022","next_batch_id":"batch-000024"}