{"id":"batch-000023","number":23,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-08-02T09:59:16.901Z","date_end":"2025-08-04T06:37:53.675Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 023 (Aug 2, 2025 – Aug 4, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants discussed post-conviction relief strategies in case 1:23-cr-00118-AT, debating District Attorney’s Office v. Osborne and the post-conviction applicability of the Brady rule. Members examined Southern District of New York orders ECF No. 715, 718, and 719, which postponed sentencing to Jan 20, 2026. Severe disagreements emerged over devastating financial losses in Himalaya Coin and G-series investments, with participants disputing whether alliance leaders mismanaged funds or whether contributors bore personal risk.","guide_en":[{"title":"Discussing Case Evidence and Creditor Identity Disputes Involving Anti-Guo Groups","description":"Participants discuss creditor identities and potential procedural unfairness involving opposition factions.","message_ids":["q03d1c0ff28e94fcda24f","qc45257f26fbd52a8c5ec","q262147540e9bb5b1a461"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q03d1c0ff28e94fcda24f","summary_en":"rui*** affirms the ongoing discussion point regarding case proceedings."},{"message_id":"qc45257f26fbd52a8c5ec","summary_en":"rui*** posits a scenario where the creditors consist entirely of the opposition strike team."},{"message_id":"q262147540e9bb5b1a461","summary_en":"rui*** argues that under such circumstances there might not even be an opportunity to challenge procedural injustice."}]},{"title":"Following Online Posts and Motions to Explore Creditor Filings and Court Strategy","description":"Participants examine creditor motions mentioned in social media posts and discuss litigation filings.","message_ids":["qed31a85bbf0e5355d83c","q8e83bc0e7a33dae8876b","q1ec627140a115bd165e3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qed31a85bbf0e5355d83c","summary_en":"rui*** notes a post stating that Luc's creditor motion tagged the Southern District of New York court."},{"message_id":"q8e83bc0e7a33dae8876b","summary_en":"rui*** tells another participant to stop rambling about tangential matters."},{"message_id":"q1ec627140a115bd165e3","summary_en":"rui*** contends that consequences depend on whether motions are submitted and forfeiture orders are issued."}]},{"title":"Debating the Post-Conviction Applicability of the Brady Rule Using Judicial Precedent","description":"Participants debate whether prosecutors retain Brady disclosure obligations after conviction under judicial precedent.","message_ids":["qf3360aab26543b1696a2","q0b8e680e57aba83d6f4b","q3eb11e35bb1871942f42"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf3360aab26543b1696a2","summary_en":"pz0*** cites District Attorney’s Office for Third Judicial Dist. v. 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prosecution's position has already been heavily riddled with weaknesses."},{"message_id":"q0fd675af958004e2ebdc","summary_en":"him*** contends that facing a few additional legal challenges will make no difference to the prosecution."}]},{"title":"Interpreting SDNY Order 719 on Postponed Sentencing and Victim Submission Deadlines","description":"Participants analyze SDNY Order 719 extending sentencing deadlines and reflect on high legal defense expenses.","message_ids":["qfd41465fecf902f876fd","qc3d7acd1a4f6e226ba99","qde4aca69acae5320db3c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qfd41465fecf902f876fd","summary_en":"gun*** summarizes SDNY Order 719 in case 1:23-cr-00118-AT granting a sentencing extension to Jan 20, 2026, and setting objection and victim filing schedules."},{"message_id":"qc3d7acd1a4f6e226ba99","summary_en":"gun*** argues that proven procedural unfairness or Brady violations could support a motion to dismiss or cause retrial 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Rule）在定罪后的适用性、向检方与辩方提交证据的机制、纽约南区法院延期量刑等命令，以及法官立场与未来上诉、赦免的前景；部分成员主张积极递交证据以抗辩程序不正义，另一些成员则对法律救济的效果持悲观态度。在经济与投资层面，参与者集中交流了对G系列项目、喜币及相关卡类投资的惨重亏损与套牢经历，引发了针对早期宣传兑现度、承诺真实性及是否能追回本金的激烈辩论。社群内部更就参与动机（追求发财还是理想主义）、联盟管理层的开销与追偿责任爆发严正对立，部分人质问债务偿还与管理失职，另一部分人则主张投资属于个人自负盈亏的选择，同时亦有参与者回顾了早期经历及在国内面临的调查与谈话。","guide":[{"title":"讨论涉案证据问题与债权人身份争议（包括灭爆小组及涉CCP证据的关联性）","message_ids":["q03d1c0ff28e94fcda24f","qc45257f26fbd52a8c5ec","q262147540e9bb5b1a461"]},{"title":"关注微蓝推文与动议线索，探讨债权人动议及法庭应对策略","message_ids":["qed31a85bbf0e5355d83c","q8e83bc0e7a33dae8876b","q1ec627140a115bd165e3"]},{"title":"援引司法判例深入辩论布雷迪法则（Brady 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他的名字要发的出来 我一毛钱都不会投的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbce8b9d39ab6996cff03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q067cb42b7d95749e192a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":402,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:31:29.772Z","text":"后来龙头被改造就更信了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q067cb42b7d95749e192a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q823fe6b7b1fa1b05e5ab","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":403,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-03T10:31:51.952Z","text":"困难都是暂时的，只要人健康地活着。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q823fe6b7b1fa1b05e5ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q90eeb1e118a01f506c48","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":404,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:31:54.654Z","text":"但你更应该信灭共不可能一帆风顺，发财更是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90eeb1e118a01f506c48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q276a62c85ca7ebfc3364","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":405,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:32:21.275Z","text":"郭无数次说了，只要没灭共，投资都是0","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q276a62c85ca7ebfc3364","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa98d616c2420d2f952af","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":406,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:32:54.232Z","text":"现在中共活蹦乱跳，投资出问题不是很正常吗？你有啥可怀疑的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa98d616c2420d2f952af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd00162970d98ebea4407","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":407,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:32:59.365Z","text":"出来再说吧 我是不想听这些大道理了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd00162970d98ebea4407","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q95f86385dbffdc099734","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":408,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:33:17.582Z","text":"他出来还是这些话，信不信有你了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95f86385dbffdc099734","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qef18d1c2bbdb6802cd19","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":409,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:33:48.898Z","text":"出来团队都不知道怎么建设 铲除一帮坏种 又来一帮坏种","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef18d1c2bbdb6802cd19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q695b7e5723c0ebb4874e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":410,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-03T10:33:50.381Z","text":"老江的话不可信。但是联盟给班农钱也是可能的，蓝金黄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed57b665b81697ebf657","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q695b7e5723c0ebb4874e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q79053356238971a3b85a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":411,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:33:53.076Z","text":"防得住吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79053356238971a3b85a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q79eda0c9e8fc07fd1e81","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":412,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:34:00.704Z","text":"我只是对他出来后怎么解释现在的局面很好奇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79eda0c9e8fc07fd1e81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7e21a04d3397758ecd17","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":413,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:34:32.541Z","text":"现在除了郭文贵，谁也不能信","edited":false,"reply_to":"q695b7e5723c0ebb4874e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e21a04d3397758ecd17","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q695b7e5723c0ebb4874e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qdf838c1ffa23fd3e0cdd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":414,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:34:42.703Z","text":"因为咱们啥也不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf838c1ffa23fd3e0cdd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q38d08579d4efe6e7ea6b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":415,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:35:17.432Z","text":"各种职业 年龄 高矮胖瘦 要什么人没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38d08579d4efe6e7ea6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5c0ce8ddb9876957c74b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":416,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:35:35.384Z","text":"铲除味蕾就是没意义的 看清味蕾是有意义的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c0ce8ddb9876957c74b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd234c57ac2c12840cabe","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":417,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:36:16.881Z","text":"他以身试法，用事实证明中共的司法渗透，同时把美国这些司法黑手清理掉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc010136e41264acc5e7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd234c57ac2c12840cabe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4b7efa5aeeb897e48b96","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":418,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:36:44.102Z","text":"川普现在也是分身乏术，美国家里太乱了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b7efa5aeeb897e48b96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q572f151d8268ff27ffc1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":419,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:37:46.698Z","text":"我觉得现在的架构肯定是不行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q572f151d8268ff27ffc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q52b7a4327a17834e4fb7","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":420,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:38:03.207Z","text":"战友们已经条件反射了 不像以前的 肯定准备跑路的多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52b7a4327a17834e4fb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9aaf6b2d78a62a06e35f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":421,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T10:38:18.357Z","text":"怎么保证持续发展","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aaf6b2d78a62a06e35f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc2a93365d405360c28bf","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":422,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T10:38:36.514Z","text":"先想办法起死回生吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2a93365d405360c28bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q806e2a0326fceb3ad11d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":423,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T10:51:55.093Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1951694349357428885?t=9scCk_-6aKCUAIWs3dmXGg&s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf5092801454b04aee766","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q806e2a0326fceb3ad11d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5092801454b04aee766","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qbdd096e6c76b5280ebb6","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":424,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T10:59:50.132Z","text":"虽然阿哲大部分都是胡说，但郭这个局有个“副作用”，就是到最后会有对“平民”参与者有开智的作用。所以这个局需要“平民”参与者去参与,学习用法律保护自己的权利。阿哲有一点是对的，就是人是有自由意志的。你是可以做出选择的，不要做机器人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdd096e6c76b5280ebb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5c8af19ce18d1dad6ef7","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":425,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:01:11.515Z","text":"不要被别人控制，不要依靠别人，你的命运在自己手里。你的命运取决于你采取什么行动。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c8af19ce18d1dad6ef7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qdd2f7e7fd5b08a1ef89f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":426,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:01:45.275Z","text":"因为除非中国人明白这点，不然就算共没了，中国也不会有民主法治。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd2f7e7fd5b08a1ef89f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q70ef773d5afed1668c94","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":427,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:03:27.197Z","text":"而CCP就是努力让大家变成机器人，这样他们才能控制，所以阿哲并不全是错的。只不过他后来又去舔luc和习，真是自相矛盾。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70ef773d5afed1668c94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q775c387cb8e87af6f838","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":428,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:04:29.416Z","text":"他是半路出家吗还是本来就是灭爆的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q775c387cb8e87af6f838","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9d3afc439409657a34b0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":429,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:06:09.660Z","text":"不知道，他的自由意志理论没错，但是他的理论是让大家不要被郭控制，去举报郭。他认为郭是毛泽东独裁者。这个是他的错，脱离了现实。然后他去舔习和luc，自相矛盾。他是比较高级的带风向。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d3afc439409657a34b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q87f632a23fac5046a8c4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":430,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:07:29.159Z","text":"但是他确实是采取法律行动了，不只是嘴炮。砸锅的都采取法律行动了，挺锅的一直嘴炮。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87f632a23fac5046a8c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa291650630045cdeadd0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":431,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:08:26.601Z","text":"挺过的都是一群巨婴，只敢躲在别人的影子里骂大街","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa291650630045cdeadd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"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rui***］ 阿哲怎么突然变这么聪明了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa59670468999eade40c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe90891e1b62dca3d8723","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":434,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:16:59.509Z","text":"站在我们这个角度看的话，他大概率是本就吃透了这个局，但最终是这场分钱游戏中的大输家，恼羞成怒，像尽可能的在舆论上搅动喜国浑水，报复那些“赢家”的一个存在。这也就是为什么他要大费周折想出一套真假理论，让人似乎觉得又有理、但客观上看又是在砸锅","edited":false,"reply_to":"q775c387cb8e87af6f838","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe90891e1b62dca3d8723","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q775c387cb8e87af6f838","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q18b3dfa35a456f47ccbe","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":435,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:17:48.734Z","text":"因为如果你站出来揭露郭，这在喜国是绝对的红线，零容忍，你说的不管有没有理，都不会被任何真战友采纳分毫，他只能“曲线救国”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18b3dfa35a456f47ccbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q66c41b85c9a4183f9437","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":436,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:18:50.590Z","text":"在这个局里抱着实现这种目的的人，基本都采取这个路子：无论是砸锅、还是砸联盟，都是如此，不可能松口说自己不是战友，但处处打你七寸。老江，最典型的砸联盟的这种例子。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66c41b85c9a4183f9437","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa6c2294cf5799b49a542","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":437,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:22:08.534Z","text":"他被骗25万美金 还挺开心的样子 本来就不符合逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c2294cf5799b49a542","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfd6630ffee631f83172a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":438,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:22:57.226Z","text":"从卖惨到改变策论 说话突然这么流利 也不符合常理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd6630ffee631f83172a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb4cc10504fab3e7663c3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":439,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:23:20.543Z","text":"他是装可怜，装疯卖傻。不是真傻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4cc10504fab3e7663c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8ed8242191f34ff3d17e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":440,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:23:28.509Z","text":"再明显不过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ed8242191f34ff3d17e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3488bf86e0a278ac5c14","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":441,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:25:08.853Z","text":"真傻的人反而不倾向暴露自己的弱势。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3488bf86e0a278ac5c14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q625baa1575d698b54630","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":442,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:31:09.130Z","text":"虽然挺郭的确实不太争气，但是公平的说，挺郭需要做的比砸锅的要多。砸锅的你就去做受害者就可以了，很简单。挺郭你要是发动议或者联系律师，都需要先理解案件。这个对智商有一定要求。你看像 ［用户 xin***］ 这种，到现在还没搞清楚案件的本质呢。","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa291650630045cdeadd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q625baa1575d698b54630","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa291650630045cdeadd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2b510d5002051dc4f56e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":443,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:31:30.722Z","text":"话说，我对大家怎么想有个疑问：假如郭出来了，除了清算坏人、补偿钱款外（假如这些都做到了），他接下来要做什么呢？换批人继续联盟、换个项目？还是再次作为无关“推广人”成立个新的组织？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b510d5002051dc4f56e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qbe4cc3b7e87110cba5fa","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":444,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:32:01.953Z","text":"我都没看过那些文件 我怎么会了解 我又不是神仙","edited":false,"reply_to":"q625baa1575d698b54630","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4cc3b7e87110cba5fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q625baa1575d698b54630","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q532502ef9f062ad7014f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":445,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:32:22.966Z","text":"还有很多挺郭的，连英文都不会，也不懂法律，也没有上线，所以不要对挺郭的太苛刻。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q532502ef9f062ad7014f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qebb4f66656a0d33cdb45","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":446,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:32:58.046Z","text":"当然还有很多挺郭的，其实是砸锅的。那些人肯定不会采取任何行动的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebb4f66656a0d33cdb45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4e1a9eaa927fdc0173be","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":447,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-03T11:33:51.969Z","text":"北京顺义区国宝找我，2019年。回老家后查我两三次最少，我根本就没有回去，查。gtv买Gdollar什么的。因为我太穷，警察根本就没有把我怎么样。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4db019997a495e3e91fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e1a9eaa927fdc0173be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db019997a495e3e91fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qaca945aed961e752f9ce","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":448,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:34:42.558Z","text":"不承认就没事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e1a9eaa927fdc0173be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaca945aed961e752f9ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e1a9eaa927fdc0173be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q605add03ad552f570cbb","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":449,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:35:14.011Z","text":"嗯，他可能只是改了一下人设","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4cc10504fab3e7663c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q605add03ad552f570cbb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4cc10504fab3e7663c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6a6cfb05a1f28ab7113b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":450,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-03T11:35:53.834Z","text":"银行记录就在国宝手上，我撇见了。不可能否认。我只是说，可能看毛片电付款误操作。那是法治基金的捐款","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaca945aed961e752f9ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a6cfb05a1f28ab7113b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaca945aed961e752f9ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q5cbe89d6e2de7c4dc998","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":451,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:37:20.821Z","text":"都是根据银行记录找人的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a6cfb05a1f28ab7113b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cbe89d6e2de7c4dc998","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a6cfb05a1f28ab7113b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7a0cd1f6633fdd251832","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":452,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:37:54.843Z","text":"你只要给他们个说得过去的理由，他们不会较真","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a6cfb05a1f28ab7113b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a0cd1f6633fdd251832","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a6cfb05a1f28ab7113b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6366e69a2c27117cdc11","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":453,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:39:38.374Z","text":"这个现实是很多揭露郭的人都提到的。我经常看到有些人一旦谈起郭的骗局如何，喜国人最常甩的一句话就是郭骗“你”什么了？确实哪怕郭的骗局坐实，郭也没骗到本就不相信郭的人。但他这个现象实际的伤害是，如果以后再出现一个类似的疑似英雄案例，不管真伪，没人敢相信了。只要郭最终牢底坐穿，不论你相不相信这个是个骗局，你不会再相信有人能这个路径成功","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb14c30173298d474882","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6366e69a2c27117cdc11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9f13a510b9d17db9e3d0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":454,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:40:32.763Z","text":"只要进去了 真的也变成假的了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f13a510b9d17db9e3d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qcf39b5e1c9f31e994bfc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":455,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:40:37.844Z","text":"正在看黄河边直播，V先生是阿哲给忽悠过去的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf39b5e1c9f31e994bfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe9fdcf780ab3f615b828","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":456,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:40:46.755Z","text":"所以郭这个现象，伤害非常大。没办法。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9fdcf780ab3f615b828","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf1bdfc662a4953f5717f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":457,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:41:21.315Z","text":"他“骗”了大家的情怀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1bdfc662a4953f5717f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q17a18b1948aac6bd7d9c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":458,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:41:55.785Z","text":"当初就是看土耳其帮你润才动了出国的念头","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17a18b1948aac6bd7d9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6b47892845142a983cd1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":459,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:42:00.310Z","text":"反正他要么是个诈骗犯，要么他吹嘘的是他的能力，他就是没有灭共的能力，这个正反方的绝对共识，没抵赖的余地","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b47892845142a983cd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe1dc00d65a039895313d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":460,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:42:06.715Z","text":"我不觉得郭骗了大家的情怀，除非你一开始就没有情怀，就是为了钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1dc00d65a039895313d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q82586b1f3faa943fcc7c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":461,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:42:14.427Z","text":"进去了 问题就来了 你怎么证明你是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82586b1f3faa943fcc7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9bb8a043b0a9711d4344","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":462,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:42:41.364Z","text":"如果你只是为了钱那郭确实“骗了”你。但是我觉得能到最后的，你一定会发财。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bb8a043b0a9711d4344","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qbc17363b943bea5e786a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":463,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:42:43.937Z","text":"只要你输了。不论如何，你就是事实上的“骗子”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc17363b943bea5e786a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf8186ebcf081b0f34410","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":464,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:43:13.258Z","text":"只是有的人认为他纯粹是个骗子，有的人，比如星辰，会认为他意图是好的，但是没这个能力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8186ebcf081b0f34410","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4b2b5a4b7ff2f15e5246","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":465,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:43:19.335Z","text":"但是能到最后的人，很少。因为要求比较高。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2b5a4b7ff2f15e5246","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb69aecf1dbed367ef968","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":466,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:43:44.617Z","text":"你看问题有点极端，他在外面你就大把的押宝，现在进去了，你又处处往坏处想","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82586b1f3faa943fcc7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb69aecf1dbed367ef968","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82586b1f3faa943fcc7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7d765675c25d9eebe804","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":467,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:43:59.454Z","text":"我是推理 不是极端","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d765675c25d9eebe804","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb5c0865986c123ae89a4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":468,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:44:27.042Z","text":"推理就拿出你的论据，不要直接下结论","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7d765675c25d9eebe804","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5c0865986c123ae89a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d765675c25d9eebe804","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q45afb85b303ff381edbb","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":469,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:44:40.111Z","text":"我是质疑 没下结论","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45afb85b303ff381edbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q853e373e5e6b0f1b503f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":470,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:44:47.028Z","text":"没人能下结论","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q853e373e5e6b0f1b503f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7dd497c1c67a3a525550","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":471,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:44:52.764Z","text":"这是这群最忌讳的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dd497c1c67a3a525550","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q814c60d17c2dacc858fb","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":472,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:45:17.821Z","text":"他这种肯定到不了最后，就是炮灰，直接被埋了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb5c0865986c123ae89a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q814c60d17c2dacc858fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5c0865986c123ae89a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7a3475ce65015bde6b5d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":473,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:45:26.348Z","text":"说到这请允许我泼一个小冷水：你为什么会认为，在一个不涉及肉体消灭的战场上，一个团体，在它还剩百分之五，甚至你们有的还说百分之0.001的群众时，它忽然具有了推翻一个体量巨大的集权政体的能力。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a3475ce65015bde6b5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc9320b68ab9412d70cda","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":474,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:45:35.320Z","text":"你说他是中共利用完的工具，要卸磨杀驴，证据呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9320b68ab9412d70cda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2758aa8b56bbd55a45cc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":475,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:45:39.924Z","text":"这是什么神仙逻辑。。。？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2758aa8b56bbd55a45cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7a41ea8a8c13b30ea880","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":476,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:46:10.493Z","text":"也许吧，肉体消灭战，打到最后，你剩很少人，终于把敌人消灭光了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a41ea8a8c13b30ea880","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q197e9dfa80b3874342d7","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":477,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:46:14.914Z","text":"你这么说话就没意思 你说土匪海外有几万亿 那证据呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9320b68ab9412d70cda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q197e9dfa80b3874342d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9320b68ab9412d70cda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q472f510088f6b018b5b5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":478,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:46:24.866Z","text":"老百姓哪来这么多证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q472f510088f6b018b5b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf12bb7746b81e41e908e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":479,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:46:41.494Z","text":"因为推翻它从来都不是靠的普通人，让普通人参与是郭的一念之仁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a3475ce65015bde6b5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf12bb7746b81e41e908e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a3475ce65015bde6b5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q419b3020805b3fefe151","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":480,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:46:42.504Z","text":"但事实上，这也是文学案例，真正的历史，打下一个国土的赢家，一定是人越打越多，加入你得越来越多，你才能赢、","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q419b3020805b3fefe151","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0ba7cc563ebc13e42f72","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":481,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:47:18.273Z","text":"中共，最典型的额案例。破船起家，历经国破山河在的抗战，八路却越打越多，才能在国共战争打赢。毛泽东玩的清楚“团结大多数人”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ba7cc563ebc13e42f72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8f433695cc6186db8cce","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":482,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:47:32.325Z","text":"是啊，你都不信郭了，他说的话怎么也不能当作证据了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q197e9dfa80b3874342d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f433695cc6186db8cce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q197e9dfa80b3874342d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qb5543bfc798eab018fcd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":483,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:47:32.544Z","text":"毛泽东绝对不可能说，最终站在井冈山的是中国的“百分之五”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5543bfc798eab018fcd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qca5f27631bced8561f8c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":484,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:47:43.650Z","text":"那纯粹是笑话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca5f27631bced8561f8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q832923d75f723c5478c2","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":485,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:48:02.069Z","text":"我怎么感觉你比我极端 非黑即白？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f433695cc6186db8cce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q832923d75f723c5478c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f433695cc6186db8cce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf1d8918ea904e0500b27","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":486,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:48:08.548Z","text":"你自己的想法，你自己不清楚吗？你自己都不清楚那就是信口开河","edited":false,"reply_to":"q472f510088f6b018b5b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1d8918ea904e0500b27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q472f510088f6b018b5b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q74615ebd65e0f17c3915","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":487,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:48:19.226Z","text":"所以说我真的百思不解，你们为什么会觉得，山穷水尽了，忽然你们一个只手可数的团队，反而灭共了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74615ebd65e0f17c3915","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qffcd42f9aaf179fab92f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":488,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:48:27.211Z","text":"不能质疑吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffcd42f9aaf179fab92f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7ad5351175b6c78f24cc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":489,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-03T11:48:36.184Z","text":"他这种一开始就是为了钱，现在失望也很正常。这种到哪儿都是炮灰，中国就算现在民主，他也是底层。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f433695cc6186db8cce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ad5351175b6c78f24cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f433695cc6186db8cce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4e6a715bd4471056b482","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":490,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:48:39.983Z","text":"我要是极端早就开骂了，对不对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q832923d75f723c5478c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e6a715bd4471056b482","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q832923d75f723c5478c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7cd68d38d0d8ed0a7964","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":491,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:48:44.057Z","text":"不用深度回答我，我也不是跟你们辩论。你们自己思考下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cd68d38d0d8ed0a7964","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q33da49727583ccac5e87","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":492,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:49:49.425Z","text":"1月20号不就知道了 吵有什么用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33da49727583ccac5e87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q805167f403a4aeed8ec2","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":493,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:49:50.770Z","text":"可以理解，但他不承认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ad5351175b6c78f24cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q805167f403a4aeed8ec2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ad5351175b6c78f24cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q93d54f6199d1e71f056e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":494,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:50:09.160Z","text":"1月20号进去了 真的也是假的了 我这说法没毛病吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93d54f6199d1e71f056e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa76aedd777d2e0de908a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":495,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:50:43.754Z","text":"还有半年呢，你不想办法，只是在这抱怨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa76aedd777d2e0de908a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf5ced8ba994361612e91","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":496,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:50:59.032Z","text":"你甚至连想办法的念头都没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5ced8ba994361612e91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf6e80eaf5f22a5937038","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":497,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:51:28.896Z","text":"兔子临死还要蹬蹬腿呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6e80eaf5f22a5937038","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q650a91db91f12582f793","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":498,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:51:55.300Z","text":"不去叫吃金枪鱼的想办法 老是让我一个吃糠咽菜的想办法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q650a91db91f12582f793","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q36ec1afffb0db1668ae6","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":499,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:52:34.203Z","text":"你就是把发财想的太容易，包括灭共，现在郭不在身边了，要面对残酷的现实了，你完全扛不住了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36ec1afffb0db1668ae6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7bebc7a9bd695a3d120f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":500,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:53:42.645Z","text":"石头你参与了，摸摸币你也参与了，你说你不为钱你自己也不信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bebc7a9bd695a3d120f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe7f5ae7170ad387f757c","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":501,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:53:54.932Z","text":"那我问你个问题 怎么灭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7f5ae7170ad387f757c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qbf7c888b00454f0f30af","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":502,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:54:12.226Z","text":"这是常识。每况愈下，大概率路线错了，而不是越来越糟，说明柳暗花明就在前方！你说对不对？我说概率，不是绝对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36ec1afffb0db1668ae6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf7c888b00454f0f30af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36ec1afffb0db1668ae6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q77d62effd09e61ec5100","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":503,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:54:17.678Z","text":"为钱不是错，但别那么极端，一头东，一头西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77d62effd09e61ec5100","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc3bc0c888eceeda7bede","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":504,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:54:21.418Z","text":"这几年除了灭了我们 灭谁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3bc0c888eceeda7bede","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8031351e01d936b88747","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":505,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:54:33.550Z","text":"敞开说吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8031351e01d936b88747","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6e433bba25517c342cc4","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":506,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:54:51.060Z","text":"你能说出一个被送进去的味蕾吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e433bba25517c342cc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9318d52aff17ce41f54e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":507,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:55:13.294Z","text":"骗你的人开着豪车 住着别墅 你看不见吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9318d52aff17ce41f54e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf30bade9c3579219ecf6","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":508,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:55:28.658Z","text":"这些不是事实吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf30bade9c3579219ecf6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7de2767dfc8632ee7f33","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":509,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:55:41.792Z","text":"早就说了，纯粹为钱来的一定会失望，让你走你没走，现在事实发生了，你开始抱怨，可这都是你自己的选择呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7de2767dfc8632ee7f33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q310d0e6f0f6c69b1f507","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":510,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T11:56:05.220Z","text":"你可以魔怔的认为这全是上天最好的礼物，然后最后一击打个大翻身仗，不是不可能。但大概率错的是你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q310d0e6f0f6c69b1f507","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa34d585b7f5e7dd9ee39","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":511,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:56:15.734Z","text":"对呀 给联盟买车买房 也是你自愿的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa34d585b7f5e7dd9ee39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q39234bf1fa327442a526","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":512,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:56:39.263Z","text":"你又给他们买车买房 又要骂他们 这不精神分裂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39234bf1fa327442a526","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe3110ce3b4ccc39e0d8a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":513,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:56:53.461Z","text":"这都是过程，川普还憋屈了四年呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf30bade9c3579219ecf6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3110ce3b4ccc39e0d8a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf30bade9c3579219ecf6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8323eab7255f5bbe8ce7","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":514,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:57:09.017Z","text":"老班长用的避孕套还有你出的钱呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8323eab7255f5bbe8ce7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q38355584ebc019097cbc","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":515,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T11:57:23.759Z","text":"你是不是很骄傲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38355584ebc019097cbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qeb281df2f4f64ce767a1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":516,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:58:20.287Z","text":"你这就是胡搅蛮缠了，我投资是合法的，他们诈骗是非法的。我投资不会进监狱，他们一定会进去","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa34d585b7f5e7dd9ee39","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb281df2f4f64ce767a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa34d585b7f5e7dd9ee39","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7e62ca5d00c9ab944389","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":517,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T11:59:08.587Z","text":"你已经心理扭曲了，你这种心态别说爆料革命，普通的投资你也扛不住","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8323eab7255f5bbe8ce7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e62ca5d00c9ab944389","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8323eab7255f5bbe8ce7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc386c9bfa2ded5a0183f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":518,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:00:51.549Z","text":"这钱是带你发财的没错，但没人承诺你现在就能发财。至于联盟诈骗，那是CCP打压我们的一个环节，是必然发生的，只是什么形式而已","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1b05d832c940ae7c1db5","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc386c9bfa2ded5a0183f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q27c669543b4572b1d240","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":519,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:01:39.654Z","text":"我也在等啊，对错只有事实能证明。但你已是局中人，为啥不把这点心力放到扭转局面上去呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27c669543b4572b1d240","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q15ea7170f83b18187eb9","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":520,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:02:05.985Z","text":"所以联盟诈骗，在不在郭的计划中？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc386c9bfa2ded5a0183f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15ea7170f83b18187eb9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc386c9bfa2ded5a0183f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qa44fe1a49982ed955584","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":521,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:02:45.940Z","text":"在的 毫无疑问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa44fe1a49982ed955584","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q36c96962d37ef049166d","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":522,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:03:06.509Z","text":"但是不清楚缘由","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36c96962d37ef049166d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd512389571f3acf624c8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":523,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:03:42.743Z","text":"我不是郭，我不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15ea7170f83b18187eb9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd512389571f3acf624c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15ea7170f83b18187eb9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2cef3cbec56540e66b9e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":524,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:04:06.071Z","text":"那么问题就来了。如果诈骗在他的计划中，他的后手是什么？没有后手，不叫计划对吧。只能说他预测到了自己的灾祸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cef3cbec56540e66b9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe499798be185d215a223","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":525,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:04:33.753Z","text":"他计划到了会有一个山东人觉醒来救他？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe499798be185d215a223","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qbbd137644a6362d65dc0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":526,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:04:35.285Z","text":"你的问题合理，你写在小本本上，等他回来直接问","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53a94db768396376ca45","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd137644a6362d65dc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0fdb8ebd05a014f7db18","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":527,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:05:01.898Z","text":"我说整个局面，包括他进去的这些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54f0137d26fa184d2f10","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fdb8ebd05a014f7db18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0cdbb24c6bada2a55555","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":528,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:05:23.257Z","text":"对，我就是这个意思其实。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b124bd04cf6a27a2bc2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cdbb24c6bada2a55555","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qac9fdca83af50124e4c8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":529,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:05:29.879Z","text":"是我让你干啥了吗？不都是你当初自己做的决定吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q137722c4e494129d068d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac9fdca83af50124e4c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf9d5300cda5eb6f52ac3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":530,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:06:01.334Z","text":"我不认为，如果全在他计划之内，他会需要一个不是他直接能指派的一个个体，去觉醒一件事，然后救他。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9d5300cda5eb6f52ac3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd173d20d4fecdca21896","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":531,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:06:12.134Z","text":"我们的方法你早知道了，办不参与是你的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b124bd04cf6a27a2bc2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd173d20d4fecdca21896","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q862688d6efd779a0ceec","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":532,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:06:16.326Z","text":"诸葛孔明，还需要“锦囊妙计”对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q862688d6efd779a0ceec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q6db696da9fe90e2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赚钱又不可耻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe42185b4d7217964bc2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qfe6ce228041ce548eeb5","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":550,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:14:13.667Z","text":"我被喝茶的时候 投资项目都没出呢 你说我的初心是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe6ce228041ce548eeb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q867f05597f29250f2655","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":551,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:14:25.876Z","text":"我投资就是为了赚钱、但我投资给喜国，说明我对喜国的认可前提下，赚钱，有什么矛盾的请问？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q867f05597f29250f2655","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q4cf49723d4ff293778e9","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":552,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:14:42.951Z","text":"我觉得没有。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cf49723d4ff293778e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q703ef5be2c3dd1dea9d7","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":553,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:14:48.406Z","text":"那只能说你冲动了，没想清楚就进来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe6ce228041ce548eeb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q703ef5be2c3dd1dea9d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe6ce228041ce548eeb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q85d1bf91ded67256ecaf","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":554,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:15:21.275Z","text":"我觉得[删节：成员身份]投资给喜国，就是百分百为了赚钱。但投给的是喜国，说明对灭共理念的认可和可行性的预期认可","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85d1bf91ded67256ecaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q58dd69b469c296036ef3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":555,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:15:25.827Z","text":"或者过度乐观，以为嗑着瓜子看着直播就发财了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58dd69b469c296036ef3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qd314303a6ba57f99ca9a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":556,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:15:37.411Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 你说我说的对否？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q85d1bf91ded67256ecaf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd314303a6ba57f99ca9a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85d1bf91ded67256ecaf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qf04da2540c461c83912b","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":557,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:15:55.542Z","text":"没毛病","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf04da2540c461c83912b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q13ca66e66e1488709fc1","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":558,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:16:06.000Z","text":"我作为第三方，看得明白","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13ca66e66e1488709fc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe8aebcac677612867dc0","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":559,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:16:22.739Z","text":"我难道还要上战场啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8aebcac677612867dc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q66ad8cfbeff65ce7a77e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":560,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:16:32.089Z","text":"一点都不矛盾，你们为什么转不过这个弯？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ad8cfbeff65ce7a77e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe27bc8f7a00044236335","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":561,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:16:36.348Z","text":"投资就是为了赚钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe27bc8f7a00044236335","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q152f68cd2701afdea4bd","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":562,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:16:49.643Z","text":"首先，你不要把你对联盟的情绪投射到我身上，你的心情我理解，但我没有义务去背他们的锅","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bd1f4b0885423d29cd6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q152f68cd2701afdea4bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q3a1d0d9a32a59e730033","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":563,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:17:02.367Z","text":"你问“那你为什么不投资别的东西”？ 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别马后炮呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31ed7ffe817437ab7096","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q911f6e5761f808023487","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":565,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:17:30.751Z","text":"我喜欢耐克，买耐克的股票，不是因为我觉得一定比阿迪赚钱。但我的目的肯定是赚钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q911f6e5761f808023487","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q48a91ab2d5547c509cf3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":566,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:17:45.827Z","text":"我要知道联盟买车买房 你请我投我都不投","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48a91ab2d5547c509cf3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8ef984d32f6cd29f8f43","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":567,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:17:48.627Z","text":"不灭共，一切都是0，这话你记得吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ef984d32f6cd29f8f43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q1acbe1b1a40f148968af","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":568,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:18:08.871Z","text":"年底100 你还记得吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1acbe1b1a40f148968af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc70e19cc7e13c8a3a09e","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":569,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:18:10.286Z","text":"还要咋说，现在这话兑现了，你要崩溃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc70e19cc7e13c8a3a09e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qc41a35b068a6bc290f9f","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":570,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:18:11.638Z","text":"郭说的任何话，字面意思不能信，是基本共识。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ef984d32f6cd29f8f43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc41a35b068a6bc290f9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ef984d32f6cd29f8f43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q1eea7b0be4edfce2f201","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":571,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-03T12:18:27.587Z","text":"你可别选择性，战友要“唯真不破”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1eea7b0be4edfce2f201","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q8e42c423992faf789fdf","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":572,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:18:30.441Z","text":"场外交易600一个 你还记得吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e42c423992faf789fdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qeebb6a49ec1651cb6407","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":573,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:18:43.574Z","text":"每天几亿人看直播 你还记得吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeebb6a49ec1651cb6407","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q29990aa4dc05827bfc68","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":574,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:18:56.702Z","text":"几亿人看直播 投资几千人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29990aa4dc05827bfc68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q46a096d77cc43a8d71e8","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":575,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:19:11.959Z","text":"他还说过2020年回北京相聚呢，你见人们散了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46a096d77cc43a8d71e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q0a1033b3594e49ec06bb","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":576,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:19:16.743Z","text":"你能分得清哪句话是真 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我干啥重要吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e54e54a7c7fbbb72154","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q9e5926b472173efce921","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":593,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:22:35.679Z","text":"就是都像你这样，才让联盟越来越嚣张","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e5926b472173efce921","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2d81f5e8b6ca372033d3","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":594,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:22:55.140Z","text":"它们吃定了你们屁都不敢放一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d81f5e8b6ca372033d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q7802aae7e0008d8e18be","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":595,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:23:13.956Z","text":"所以才骑脖子上拉屎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7802aae7e0008d8e18be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q17979e1a0045264db04a","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":596,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:23:21.192Z","text":"不信你又要说 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还是不信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17979e1a0045264db04a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qe513e3a5e2a264765494","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":597,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:23:26.845Z","text":"精神分裂啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe513e3a5e2a264765494","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q2eae3edc387fd38109ad","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":598,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:23:58.061Z","text":"你信啥了，聊了半天，我就看出来你只信能发财","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eae3edc387fd38109ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"q76d49732aa6766d18a98","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":599,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-03T12:23:59.941Z","text":"双标是吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d49732aa6766d18a98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"},{"id":"qedf677aabef05ca62349","batch_id":"batch-000023","seq":600,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-03T12:24:21.342Z","text":"有好处你就上，有难处你就装蚂蚁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedf677aabef05ca62349","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000023"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000022","next_batch_id":"batch-000024"}