{"id":"batch-000025","number":25,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-08-05T17:24:04.383Z","date_end":"2025-08-09T02:53:47.276Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 025 (Aug 5, 2025 – Aug 9, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated the criminal conviction and bankruptcy proceedings, focusing on procedural justice, Brady rule applicability, and potential Fifth Amendment violations. While some members argued that political manipulation tainted the trial and hoped an appeal could overturn the verdict to unfreeze investments, others attributed losses to fraudulent projects and criticized alliance leadership for evading accountability. The group also discussed outreach to defense counsel, bankruptcy trustee actions, and restitution claims.","guide_en":[{"title":"Members Question Procedural Justice and Controversy Surrounding Prosecution Witness Qingteng","description":"Participants dispute the procedural fairness of the prosecution and question witness conduct.","message_ids":["q31a475f186c225b9f48f","q6eaf21e289c1d879614f","qfef08ee7759aec96a362"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q31a475f186c225b9f48f","summary_en":"rui*** contends that the case against Guo is fundamentally absurd."},{"message_id":"q6eaf21e289c1d879614f","summary_en":"rui*** argues that procedural injustice occurred because no one actively challenged it."},{"message_id":"qfef08ee7759aec96a362","summary_en":"rui*** contends that witness Qingteng engaged in obvious obstruction of justice."}]},{"title":"Exploring Legal Avenues Under the Brady Rule, Retaining Counsel, and Filing Motions","description":"Participants discuss coordinating with defense attorneys 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感觉用不着自身经历了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25b4e3643c6fe0ce19f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d316d154d38ae14c39a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b4e3643c6fe0ce19f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qc3287a619e619786a9ce","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":206,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T16:21:51.182Z","text":"只要郭别死在监狱就是100%","edited":false,"reply_to":"q409b82f25368e4397e38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3287a619e619786a9ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q409b82f25368e4397e38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q2004b8701d7c9688466b","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":207,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-06T16:22:20.675Z","text":"这个100％是靠我们还是靠他自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2004b8701d7c9688466b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q3bc5b5f781d17aa517b3","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":208,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T16:22:44.963Z","text":"这次要靠我们  下次靠他自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2004b8701d7c9688466b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bc5b5f781d17aa517b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2004b8701d7c9688466b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qf39911f7f436b3a47fc4","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":209,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:22:45.048Z","text":"亲身经历最好，不亲身经历的话只能说怀疑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d316d154d38ae14c39a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf39911f7f436b3a47fc4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d316d154d38ae14c39a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qeee95b6f8904c9aa9cc7","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":210,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T16:23:04.812Z","text":"恩","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf39911f7f436b3a47fc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeee95b6f8904c9aa9cc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf39911f7f436b3a47fc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qe082441e3aa9eaeb5efd","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":211,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:23:18.788Z","text":"像螺丝哥这种，他自己填了喜交所的表格，他就是证人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe082441e3aa9eaeb5efd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q55235a30dfc7389d5da2","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":212,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:23:53.865Z","text":"呼吁人们给检方联系应该用什么身份？案件的利益相关方？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55235a30dfc7389d5da2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q357cd81c3b3be4d017b7","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":213,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:23:53.908Z","text":"他的布雷迪证据，就是亲身经历","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q357cd81c3b3be4d017b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qa0afc4082cc78a422ab9","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":214,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T16:24:11.383Z","text":"是的 可以这么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55235a30dfc7389d5da2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0afc4082cc78a422ab9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55235a30dfc7389d5da2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q8cebffbcb8d11a46ed02","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":215,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T16:24:45.400Z","text":"对被告有利信息披露","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cebffbcb8d11a46ed02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q7ca2f7e1749fc039a45b","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":216,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T16:25:14.145Z","text":"你如果有被告有利信息 又把这个信息让大家都知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ca2f7e1749fc039a45b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q237059fed07236f5ea49","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":217,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:25:14.555Z","text":"查查机器人，布雷迪证据的邮件怎么写","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q237059fed07236f5ea49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q0579cf43ede2d8ee6bf2","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":218,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:25:47.144Z","text":"向检方提交证据，检方凭什么相信是真的呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q357cd81c3b3be4d017b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0579cf43ede2d8ee6bf2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q357cd81c3b3be4d017b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q8c07ca5bdbc76c8a9f4a","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":219,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:26:00.991Z","text":"要附上证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0579cf43ede2d8ee6bf2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c07ca5bdbc76c8a9f4a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0579cf43ede2d8ee6bf2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q684b3e948e67490f7d70","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":220,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:26:14.710Z","text":"或者让检方联系你要更多证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684b3e948e67490f7d70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q2f3e11b00f37bce1b2c5","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":221,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:26:16.026Z","text":"不可能一说检方就要告诉辩方，那不乱套了，或者说检方可以以此为由拒绝转告","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f3e11b00f37bce1b2c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qdd2c183b6c57867a018d","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":222,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:26:33.129Z","text":"所以你的邮件必须有证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd2c183b6c57867a018d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qcd08001cb5359491382b","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":223,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:26:48.528Z","text":"或者你提供线索，让他们自己去查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd08001cb5359491382b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q5b42738061222afe1694","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":224,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:28:32.224Z","text":"我也觉得必须有证据，本来就是检方失误，他不可能去找证据自证自己过失","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd2c183b6c57867a018d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b42738061222afe1694","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd2c183b6c57867a018d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qa7525076ac6105bc1e9d","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":225,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:28:33.970Z","text":"如果你向检察官提供了作为布雷迪证据（Brady evidence）的线索，检察官是否有义务进行调查，取决于该信息的性质和可信度。\n\n要点如下：\n\n1. 《布雷迪诉马里兰州案》（Brady v. Maryland） 要求检察官必须披露对被告有利的、有减轻罪责或刑罚作用的免责证据。\n\n\n2. 是否有义务调查：\n\n检察官在布雷迪原则下不一定有义务调查每一个第三方提供的线索。\n\n但是，如果这个线索可信、具体，并指出可能存在的关键免责证据，那么检察官可能有义务进一步调查，尤其是在这些证据可能掌握在政府手中的情况下。\n\n法院曾判定，如果检察官明知存在可信的免责线索却视而不见，可能构成对布雷迪义务的违反。\n\n\n\n3. 实际操作中：\n\n如果你是受害人或第三方，你所提供的信息具体、可信，且可能影响被告的罪责判断，检察官至少应该评估该线索的可信度。\n\n如果这些线索涉及政府机构、政府控制下的证人，或是已有的调查档案，检察官就有更高的责任去调查和披露。\n\n\n\n\n总结：\n\n检察官并非必须追查所有线索，但如果线索是可信且可能影响案件结果的免责信息，尤其是与政府掌握的证据相关，那么他们就有义务调查并披露。若无视这些线索，可能构成布雷迪违宪行为。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7525076ac6105bc1e9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q4dc4beaee97896285702","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":226,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:31:01.478Z","text":"主要提供这些证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dc4beaee97896285702","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q366d9d6de187a49b8a74","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":227,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:31:35.433Z","text":"对了，比如青藤ava，长岛啊，等等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q366d9d6de187a49b8a74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q3cce4281a76f46363156","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":228,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-06T16:32:04.055Z","text":"你们有进展了没啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cce4281a76f46363156","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qfdff7fc02ee2b622d55a","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":229,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:32:29.937Z","text":"所以，喜和第一封信虽然说的都是事实，但没有任何证据，估计检方会直接无视","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdff7fc02ee2b622d55a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q26e038a9fce77eebbcfb","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":230,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:33:11.878Z","text":"喜和是盖尔的喜交所表格签署人，他自己就是证人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26e038a9fce77eebbcfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qa9f1f31122d3514da539","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":231,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:33:41.610Z","text":"再加上他说的关于联盟的事情，涉及检方证人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9f1f31122d3514da539","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qa0bf3f1e048a9da4eb19","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":232,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:34:06.857Z","text":"我觉得这都应该算检方应该有责任调查的线索","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0bf3f1e048a9da4eb19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q14e87ab61ba9929e5de0","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":233,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:36:12.292Z","text":"写信主要是赌检方不会转告，这样才会构成违反布雷迪，为了避免让检方有理由不转告，所以必须提供证据，能证明这是影响案件结果的重要证据，是这意思吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14e87ab61ba9929e5de0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q69e9206a53bcc4221657","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":234,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:37:25.546Z","text":"作为普通人，你不可能做到十全十美，但是能做什么就做什么，能附上什么证据都可以。你可以让检方联系你，如果他们需要更多证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14e87ab61ba9929e5de0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69e9206a53bcc4221657","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14e87ab61ba9929e5de0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q65f01a277dc622be0c2e","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":235,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T16:37:38.567Z","text":"不管是不是亲身经历，只要有翔实的证据就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q357cd81c3b3be4d017b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65f01a277dc622be0c2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q357cd81c3b3be4d017b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qd9e5cba43aa1d49c73a6","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":236,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T16:38:22.017Z","text":"普通人你不可能有確实的证据，但是检方有调查权","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65f01a277dc622be0c2e","reply_status":"available","has_att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是板上钉钉的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01dcb7d200b928554678","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q29299684396289f3c201","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":243,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T16:47:37.418Z","text":"老郭无罪的关键 是第四修正案违反","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29299684396289f3c201","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qdb97db8e9725f765c678","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":244,"speaker":"tig***","date":"2025-08-06T16:47:55.126Z","text":"太阳最红 郭主席最亲 东方红太阳升 中国出了个郭文贵 天上 太阳红彤彤地上太阳 郭文贵 郭主席 思想 永放光芒大海航行 靠舵手万物生长靠太阳雨露滋润禾苗 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xin***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fa339f1e5fd93f009f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q21f193329590eca9550c","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":269,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-06T17:03:58.559Z","text":"就是被喜国整的没什么动力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21f193329590eca9550c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qd3489841eb94da4f96c6","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":270,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T17:04:51.080Z","text":"我们这是在拯救你的投资呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3489841eb94da4f96c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q36d891515713ed569eae","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":271,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T18:14:38.771Z","text":"不是，每个人拯救自己的  他不行动没有他的份","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3489841eb94da4f96c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36d891515713ed569eae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3489841eb94da4f96c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qffa7bd1d12443fdc32f2","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":272,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T18:15:17.276Z","text":"当然 救老郭 是为大家救的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffa7bd1d12443fdc32f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q4f0a7462140d5366c1ef","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":273,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T18:16:13.376Z","text":"在美国你想拿回钱，必须你自己行动，没来的  默认你不要了  这是美国游戏规则","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f0a7462140d5366c1ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q1f13a7620f6a5bf251c0","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":274,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T18:18:04.530Z","text":"这就是为什么久指妖 如此难缠，她故意把所有人都圈到法院，但是明显不是所有人都可以拿到钱。你不去法院交钱 声明你要钱，默认你不要了，而且以后永远没资格要","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f13a7620f6a5bf251c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q7d6fd95cc492c3e366ed","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":275,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T18:20:39.287Z","text":"所以瑞恩的强势文化  就是这样，你要敢要，你就有，你不敢要 没人给你喂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d6fd95cc492c3e366ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q25b397cc8c4e65fa5def","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":276,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T18:21:47.724Z","text":"所以我说他是智障  总要别人去给他要，不懂游戏规则  😂   别人要到了也不会给你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b397cc8c4e65fa5def","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qc3d4cf57c490c45efa40","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":277,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T18:27:31.898Z","text":"联盟网红就是怕你们每个人自己去要   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马后炮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd71853a09e95abebbbfa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qe28a3cf529a8438e2b20","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":292,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T19:09:57.897Z","text":"螺丝哥现在都不怎么骂人了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q228b3843149cfa17dc42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe28a3cf529a8438e2b20","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q228b3843149cfa17dc42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q7fb1e5935dad5598a3f0","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":293,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T19:12:28.962Z","text":"现在最最保守 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现在流离失所了才来点赞","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50a8092574ed6f4fb18c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q08cb31797b80c3486020","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":303,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-06T19:22:12.285Z","text":"没关注过她，其实联盟的人我都没怎么关注过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34418f3cc76c1ea1a178","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08cb31797b80c3486020","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qabe4065df3c27fe5fee9","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":304,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T19:25:22.032Z","text":"可以把她忽悠来螺丝帮🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08cb31797b80c3486020","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabe4065df3c27fe5fee9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08cb31797b80c3486020","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q14902e55e26baec7fb0d","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":305,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T20:53:16.271Z","text":"联盟农场继续诈骗，这个算对被告有利的证据吗？他们是被告同谋，这应该是对被告不利吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14902e55e26baec7fb0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q9423f74f19b21a94b051","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":306,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T20:53:56.771Z","text":"有利，可以从共谋变成主谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14902e55e26baec7fb0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9423f74f19b21a94b051","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14902e55e26baec7fb0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qd88ea1d72d2ab6d34c34","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":307,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-06T20:55:02.116Z","text":"主谋怎么就有利了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd88ea1d72d2ab6d34c34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q154daa70bc9f644cab0f","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":308,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-06T20:58:37.345Z","text":"被骗的上去说 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你做这些 罪过丝毫不小","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03e275651e5db54d78e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qf5957eac90904e72aef7","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":375,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-06T21:20:44.161Z","text":"反正你顺着这个思路 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谁看懂了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb799c2816d43952fca21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qc3a598e84e3b1b764d13","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":391,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-07T00:58:02.223Z","text":"检方公然在法庭上说，那些投资者，不是受害者，就是共谋犯，简直是疯狂之极，接下来给它发它们的布雷迪违规，看它是不是要把指出它们布雷迪违规的人抓起来。它可能是吃定了说汉语的人们全都是墙头草，被它这么一吓唬，都会跑去做受害人。结果是在rico犯们极力怂恿下，也没几个人去登记，不然它早就亮出来了。不需要同谋犯以起诉司法部的为理由让人们登记的名单拿来以受害者名义到法庭要钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3a598e84e3b1b764d13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q4cc100b0b9b6af7b7584","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":392,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-07T01:04:56.001Z","text":"你说的对 这就是灭爆组专门针对我们华人设的局 他们研究过！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc3a598e84e3b1b764d13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cc100b0b9b6af7b7584","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3a598e84e3b1b764d13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qdcc99d9ee9d27fb35afa","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":393,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-07T01:08:52.798Z","text":"有反馈了没","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc99d9ee9d27fb35afa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qc308ea4b16ae042eabbc","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":394,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-07T01:12:41.226Z","text":"之前大家讨论说要重新立案起诉它们。现在看来用不着，不是可以起诉过程中添加罪名吗。被告无罪释放后，具体报案人员换人，然后添加新罪名：同谋诬陷。司法部和破产法庭里的一些参与进来的人就成为了新的被告，那些灭共演员就从污点证人变成了新的被告。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4cc100b0b9b6af7b7584","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc308ea4b16ae042eabbc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cc100b0b9b6af7b7584","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q67b9874c10e641c55f98","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":395,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-07T01:29:17.223Z","text":"是的 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躺平看戏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa445401542dac2f17a97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q1650da13e1c5dabfa7f5","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":398,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-07T02:25:22.259Z","text":"我是喜国人 关心一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1650da13e1c5dabfa7f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"qd51c829f7b5a07c2cb32","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":399,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-07T02:29:22.732Z","text":"请问长倒跟九指妖左手倒右手，有多少人去法庭要到钱了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67b9874c10e641c55f98","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd51c829f7b5a07c2cb32","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67b9874c10e641c55f98","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"},{"id":"q871ebcde3f27ba85f752","batch_id":"batch-000025","seq":400,"speaker":"xxx***","date":"2025-08-07T02:30:15.765Z","text":"联盟群的链接谁有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q871ebcde3f27ba85f752","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000025"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000024","next_batch_id":"batch-000026"}