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而马睿这个债权人是2022年5月登记的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q811a777d03fdf555eb2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q1f8caba83ded277c6382","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":615,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T14:21:01.441Z","text":"早于刑事案调查的9月份扣押","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f8caba83ded277c6382","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q010048b7a299fdcc17b2","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":616,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T14:28:18.780Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 你下一封信 要问检方 在2022年资产扣押前 债权人和报案受害人是否身份重合","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q010048b7a299fdcc17b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q0e05bcc7389f873c78ab","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":617,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T14:40:52.559Z","text":"给检方写信，提问题没意义吧，检方不会答复。主要是提出发现的无法篡改和否认的重要证据，这样将来才能用布雷迪干翻他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q010048b7a299fdcc17b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e05bcc7389f873c78ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q010048b7a299fdcc17b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q8c605e930d13ce0e2e0f","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":618,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T14:42:52.740Z","text":"我也觉得检方不会答复任何问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e05bcc7389f873c78ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c605e930d13ce0e2e0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e05bcc7389f873c78ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qc2f0ac78fa6ed17ecc0a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":619,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T14:43:11.501Z","text":"但是也许有些问题和布雷迪证据相关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2f0ac78fa6ed17ecc0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qdaa82b078ceb13a92d95","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":620,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T14:43:59.963Z","text":"反正别写成动议了，就是陈述事实，然后表达想法就完事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaa82b078ceb13a92d95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q5b8ff631002797dd0433","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":621,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T14:50:52.631Z","text":"我觉得“受害者”给检方写信提问应该是正常的，因为你想搞明白案子，你不能稀里糊涂的就当受害者了吧。布雷迪证据是另外一回事儿。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b8ff631002797dd0433","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qf8079caf3225aa72ffdd","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":622,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T14:51:10.156Z","text":"检方不会回应","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e05bcc7389f873c78ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8079caf3225aa72ffdd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e05bcc7389f873c78ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q14a6fad7306d8b35196a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":623,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T14:51:48.778Z","text":"布雷迪证据是任何人都可以提交的，受害者，第三方或者完全无关的人，如果你有可靠的证据，都可以提交。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14a6fad7306d8b35196a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qf892e5a946b940326ac8","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":624,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T14:57:08.670Z","text":"但是如果检方是正常的，他们应该回应“受害者”的问题，除非问题答案属于机密","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8079caf3225aa72ffdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf892e5a946b940326ac8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8079caf3225aa72ffdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q09f732a6025bf66eab2d","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":625,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T14:57:21.951Z","text":"检方应该和受害者沟通","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09f732a6025bf66eab2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q43f186ebcac2ff3e540b","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":626,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T14:57:34.480Z","text":"当然这是正常情况下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43f186ebcac2ff3e540b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qbf0f146a5eaed51434a6","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":627,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T15:04:36.916Z","text":"证据链接用盖特直播的靠谱吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discus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那个带江西口音的理发师面相不善。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ab65a72b12250d8aba8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11ae7b32daf63f031b52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ab65a72b12250d8aba8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q14d369302d9a7a67dacc","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":635,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-11T15:44:38.599Z","text":"他们浪费了你宝贵的 3万天。比骗你钱还可恨。九只妖出事后 我就不看他们所有视频了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77132ca2bd234ab6d0d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d369302d9a7a67dacc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77132ca2bd234ab6d0d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q4c24146d98ddbff112a1","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":636,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T16:30:30.964Z","text":"因为如果客户要求律师无罪辩护，律师必须提交无罪。但是如果律师不想干活，或者和客户意见不一致，那他们可以什么理由都不写。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5adb3ecca78c363fd6e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c24146d98ddbff112a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5adb3ecca78c363fd6e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qbda489b73d3b06870052","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":637,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:03:34.109Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ 我查了一下 就算郭自己一分钱没拿 欺诈依然可以逮捕","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbda489b73d3b06870052","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q87de2534ef17a091242c","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":638,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:05:46.844Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  但我觉得他们的死穴肯定在债权人上 而且肯定是非法逮捕 只是可能角度不对","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87de2534ef17a091242c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q6d88b4cf55a8176c8827","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":639,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:14:16.131Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  ［用户 chu***］ 他们对债权人这么讳莫如深 我觉得有可能报案的大部分都是债权人  这就是为什么luc破产案最后要at南区法院 破产案登记的时候 马睿是2022年5月就登记了 2022年扣押的时候 是9月多","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d88b4cf55a8176c8827","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qb43fe8a58c773767a188","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":640,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:14:43.966Z","text":"所以诈骗叙事不一定可以打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb43fe8a58c773767a188","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q3da74af0961db1481452","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":641,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:15:09.174Z","text":"但我感觉债权人一定会打他们的非法抓捕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3da74af0961db1481452","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q510898916fcc65d03c70","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":642,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:15:51.229Z","text":"没有债权人，就不是刑事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbda489b73d3b06870052","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q510898916fcc65d03c70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbda489b73d3b06870052","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q42f5cd827337924dbfad","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":643,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:16:01.924Z","text":"顶多是民事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42f5cd827337924dbfad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qa24f8946a79354d9b8ce","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":644,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:16:22.687Z","text":"就像之前gtv","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa24f8946a79354d9b8ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qb14945584fc5ba8cc84f","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":645,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:17:34.955Z","text":"是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb14945584fc5ba8cc84f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q5997a59757b42fa1245e","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":646,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:17:41.988Z","text":"至于债权人怎么转换的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5997a59757b42fa1245e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qfdac808fe16ec96b9e2b","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":647,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:17:51.101Z","text":"那就是我们赌的地方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdac808fe16ec96b9e2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qcc3f75ba3b38d416ea2d","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":648,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:20:33.661Z","text":"我还是觉得，翻案要靠郭的律师，普通人最多就是提出一些疑问一些质疑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc3f75ba3b38d416ea2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q8ff158ec000c3d2cdc91","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":649,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:21:04.496Z","text":"然后如果你亲身经历了什么，提供一些证据，普通人就能做这么多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ff158ec000c3d2cdc91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q63cea83c7ff642025689","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":650,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:29:07.928Z","text":"这帮律师钱都没有 不能指望🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc3f75ba3b38d416ea2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63cea83c7ff642025689","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc3f75ba3b38d416ea2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qdbe51df3a7087c54dfa1","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":651,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:29:59.133Z","text":"准确的说，是要靠郭自己和他的律师配合","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63cea83c7ff642025689","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbe51df3a7087c54dfa1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63cea83c7ff642025689","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qd01979d5498893eedb2e","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":652,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:30:13.365Z","text":"不只是他的律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd01979d5498893eedb2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q30fbaf0107d3939cd58a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":653,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:30:43.843Z","text":"但是如果没有普通人提供证据，疑问和质疑，那么郭就算赢了，也没什么意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30fbaf0107d3939cd58a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qe11a764e5f064d65a458","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":654,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:31:13.961Z","text":"因为“战友”们都没有参与，郭赢了也是自己赢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe11a764e5f064d65a458","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qb785d2c1551a29756dd0","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":655,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:32:05.154Z","text":"所以你普通人能做什么就做点什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb785d2c1551a29756dd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q21a34a6e85f8ac26489b","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":656,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T17:32:13.427Z","text":"其他的不要想太多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21a34a6e85f8ac26489b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q87331a7f18634e163154","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":657,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T17:51:08.403Z","text":"如果你说债权人是民事转刑事的关键 那么就是说 报案 受害者 都是债权人 或者大量和债权人重合 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这个是初步没收令","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20ebbb60a17c989fb4d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qb41bfc0d54c48876748b","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":701,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:38:59.125Z","text":"第三方什么时候开啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb41bfc0d54c48876748b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qae1d0ae6caeea6ad8dc7","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":702,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T20:39:21.199Z","text":"没收令正式下达，第三方应该就可以上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae1d0ae6caeea6ad8dc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qa0fdc0d0454e6355674a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":703,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:39:28.656Z","text":"那就可以上了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0fdc0d0454e6355674a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qe3fef4815ebaf703a2dd","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":704,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-11T20:39:37.022Z","text":"😯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3fef4815ebaf703a2dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q1905ea7accc37508b95a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":705,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:39:42.110Z","text":"按法官说的应该是默认就开了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1905ea7accc37508b95a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qe7ad34d7fd973381efb0","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":706,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:40:25.374Z","text":"那排队的三百多是不是会先上？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7ad34d7fd973381efb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qba73ae75ce2d0c82b504","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":707,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:40:34.602Z","text":"嘿嘿 我要给检方和法官挖个坑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba73ae75ce2d0c82b504","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q6944d93df48b1fc97c58","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":708,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T20:40:49.409Z","text":"不行就等两三天看看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6944d93df48b1fc97c58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q401a9ef6d7cf97827700","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":709,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:41:13.909Z","text":"这会发动议会不会被淹没掉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7ad34d7fd973381efb0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q401a9ef6d7cf97827700","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7ad34d7fd973381efb0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qc31d48c6dc06ae8d5ebc","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":710,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:41:23.352Z","text":"我在想","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc31d48c6dc06ae8d5ebc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q4d1b68f678dd2951de93","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":711,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:41:26.211Z","text":"怎么这么快","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d1b68f678dd2951de93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q972146db79789da7a610","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":712,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:41:28.456Z","text":"不正常","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q972146db79789da7a610","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q25ee2c9a88b3ded4fdf8","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":713,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T20:42:01.021Z","text":"法官肯定知道，检方也知道，第三方纠纷是海量的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d1b68f678dd2951de93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25ee2c9a88b3ded4fdf8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d1b68f678dd2951de93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q1e5fab6f696d8f9208c3","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":714,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:42:04.438Z","text":"没收令和宣判中间有5个月时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e5fab6f696d8f9208c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q55fa49e65646b156ba46","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":715,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:42:23.059Z","text":"这是在为处理第三方腾时间吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55fa49e65646b156ba46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q41e6b170c7bbf8924726","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":716,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:43:22.537Z","text":"我要给法官挖坑咯🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41e6b170c7bbf8924726","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q65a575e4b86aa6168bc5","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":717,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T20:44:16.148Z","text":"我先等两天，如果法庭上传积压的司法第三方文件，可能会有我的。如果不上传，我就把打盖尔的再发一遍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65a575e4b86aa6168bc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q0d2617ad60420fc466d6","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":718,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:44:39.662Z","text":"大家 上！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d2617ad60420fc466d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q224e26ac7777d87d4f1f","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":719,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:44:47.900Z","text":"你别老发了，又把法官惹毛了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65a575e4b86aa6168bc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q224e26ac7777d87d4f1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65a575e4b86aa6168bc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qe93dd533aaa684b32d02","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":720,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:45:35.862Z","text":"我估计排队的300人会先上传，现在时机不对，发上去也很难引起注意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe93dd533aaa684b32d02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q8ed52600bfb685b6a2b1","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":721,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T20:45:38.748Z","text":"我需要等两天，万一积压的文件有我的，我就再消停几天","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ed52600bfb685b6a2b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qe86016b3301381bab9fd","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":722,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T20:47:23.399Z","text":"先把检察官的信发了，为半个月后的布雷迪动议做好准备，同时观察动议上传的情况","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe86016b3301381bab9fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q869ca5460c7ba73313e6","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":723,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:47:38.229Z","text":"我已经发了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe86016b3301381bab9fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q869ca5460c7ba73313e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe86016b3301381bab9fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q89aedb9a25f1879489cc","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":724,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T20:47:47.189Z","text":"我得构思一下 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在电脑上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a38b878a11a17b2f0d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3117600706d8be0bda16","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a38b878a11a17b2f0d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qeebcb2d5ec2f62876236","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":760,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T21:29:37.831Z","text":"检方不可能拖太久","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b9dfe4a97899e2646df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeebcb2d5ec2f62876236","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b9dfe4a97899e2646df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qb8ab1d3e026d6357fa72","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":761,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T21:29:40.918Z","text":"发你了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8ab1d3e026d6357fa72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q96799f1f0aba95e364e8","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":762,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:29:56.955Z","text":"？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeebcb2d5ec2f62876236","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96799f1f0aba95e364e8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeebcb2d5ec2f62876236","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qe0a963cd178b33f1b6d9","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":763,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T21:30:12.358Z","text":"不可能拖太久发通知","edited":false,"reply_to":"q96799f1f0aba95e364e8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a963cd178b33f1b6d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96799f1f0aba95e364e8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q67c0c7d273b5d4cc2f95","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":764,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T21:30:33.415Z","text":"法官没收令已经下了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67c0c7d273b5d4cc2f95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qa6c27934c4f73b566597","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":765,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:30:53.328Z","text":"可以拖到第60天呐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c27934c4f73b566597","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q01f22fc9bcb0bab4b88f","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":766,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T21:30:53.640Z","text":"他们拖5个月？不太可能吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01f22fc9bcb0bab4b88f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q1e2325ef27b98611a37f","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":767,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:31:05.365Z","text":"那不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e2325ef27b98611a37f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qedff3d2fb2c0d3ce9279","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T21:31:13.211Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedff3d2fb2c0d3ce9279","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q882c0caf7b20dbd31380","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":769,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-11T21:31:28.208Z","text":"量刑是1月份","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q882c0caf7b20dbd31380","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q096858d715d08737abb2","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":770,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:31:34.563Z","text":"检方想审判，尽可能压缩时间，减少变数","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q096858d715d08737abb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qa3c5e228ec2021226cce","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":771,"speaker":"him**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是啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f14923df05cdbca817d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd738d8e804cde692aee2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f14923df05cdbca817d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qf7e76ef312e7565dffb4","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":778,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:34:00.562Z","text":"托雷斯法官，虽然偏袒，但，还能说得过去。破产法庭那边的法官，可以说，几近疯狂。没有对比就没有伤害啊！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7e76ef312e7565dffb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q0bffa8e21be842b0231a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":779,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T21:34:46.117Z","text":"托雷斯毕竟被Bannon 川普他们盯着","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bffa8e21be842b0231a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q8295267cec41c67c9ec1","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":780,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:35:22.588Z","text":"这么长，宣布没收令通过在第几页？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8ab1d3e026d6357fa72","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8295267cec41c67c9ec1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8ab1d3e026d6357fa72","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q37a90057ab8152e0ee7e","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":781,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:38:17.988Z","text":"她是奥黑的人，她不想交投名状吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bffa8e21be842b0231a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a90057ab8152e0ee7e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bffa8e21be842b0231a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q8d97e316526b03e2a56a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":782,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:38:38.157Z","text":"Upon adjudication of all third-party interests, this Court will enter a Final\nOrder of Forfeiture with respect to the Specific Property pursuant to Title 21, United States Code, \nSection 853(n), in which all interests will be addressed. All Specific Property forfeited to the \nUnited States under a Final Order of Forfeiture shall be applied towards the satisfaction of the \nMoney Judgment.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d97e316526b03e2a56a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q18a7edcc975a0e5779ab","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":783,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:39:01.076Z","text":"在对所有第三方利益作出裁定后，本法院将根据《美国法典》第21篇第853(n)条就特定财产作出最终没收令，该命令将涵盖所有利益。根据最终没收令没收归美国所有的所有特定财产，均应用于履行金钱判决。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18a7edcc975a0e5779ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q58d82d86db639b293edf","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":784,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:40:00.311Z","text":"😆😆😆😆😆第三方纠纷要处理完才可以。所以，根本不可能量刑，咱们这样的纠纷，怎么处理啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58d82d86db639b293edf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q5a0c3964e5e27b4fb1e2","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":785,"speaker":"joy***","date":"2025-08-11T21:41:08.001Z","text":"有文件么，传一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a0c3964e5e27b4fb1e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qbbd5e76ba63b87eac176","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":786,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:41:20.707Z","text":"法官只写了两个单词，so ordered!这是检方写的模板，法官只需要直接同意。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8295267cec41c67c9ec1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd5e76ba63b87eac176","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8295267cec41c67c9ec1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qee2c62af6dadab592e6c","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":787,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:41:59.334Z","text":"文件，在上面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee2c62af6dadab592e6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q73cc844ad5bd61ed0714","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":788,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:47:41.698Z","text":"她签字就算通过了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbd5e76ba63b87eac176","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73cc844ad5bd61ed0714","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd5e76ba63b87eac176","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q0bb0a4666838d8611868","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":789,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T21:49:38.497Z","text":"我刚查了好像853也没有权限去攻击和你抢钱的人 就算是非法 ［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bb0a4666838d8611868","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q392e75e37dd84f345788","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":790,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:53:29.037Z","text":"不是攻击，是反对。盖尔反对卢克，凭什么我不能反对卢克和盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bb0a4666838d8611868","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q392e75e37dd84f345788","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bb0a4666838d8611868","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qbc5b9646bd695a846a7a","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":791,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T21:54:16.519Z","text":"法庭文件法官直接签字同意的，好几份。甚至多份。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73cc844ad5bd61ed0714","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc5b9646bd695a846a7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73cc844ad5bd61ed0714","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q9137d6bbe602d50e521c","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":792,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-11T21:57:09.176Z","text":"https://x.com/tianhuo_seven/status/1954893929087709469?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9137d6bbe602d50e521c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q85d6f7fde13415ab2c00","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":793,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T21:58:56.776Z","text":"现在漏出尾巴来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9137d6bbe602d50e521c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85d6f7fde13415ab2c00","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9137d6bbe602d50e521c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qf1796e5773050bb5129e","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":794,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-11T21:59:12.910Z","text":"这个[屏蔽词] 绝对是灭爆组的。 灭爆组的都不是正常人 不能正常沟通。只有干掉老郭一个目标。所以非常好识别。他们的行为自己都不知道不符合逻辑。😂","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1796e5773050bb5129e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"qf110ab5fedc2336d13c1","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":795,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-11T22:03:36.241Z","text":"天火 就是张高丽，战友就是  彭帅，给你描述 宇宙无限大 你们是一粒沙的 方式，科普 法律 哈哈哈😂   笑死老子了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf110ab5fedc2336d13c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q7f9334201c48f58be2ef","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":796,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T22:09:45.768Z","text":"我想到绝妙一招","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f9334201c48f58be2ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q28189e82567d3fdc0f6f","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":797,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-11T22:10:11.858Z","text":"我的853 和brady 并行进行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28189e82567d3fdc0f6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q69bfa3539b902ed01154","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":798,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T22:10:12.949Z","text":"第三方是否可以反对其他第三方的诉求：可以，但有限制。在附属程序中，第三方可以对其自身权益的主张提出证据和法律依据，同时也可以对其他第三方的权益主张提出质疑或反对，尤其是在以下情况下：利益冲突：如果多个第三方对同一笔被没收的资金或财产主张权利（例如，同一笔资金被多个第三方声称拥有），法院需要确定各方的优先级（priority of claims）。此时，一个第三方可以提出证据或法律论点，反对其他第三方的诉求，证明自己的权益优先或更合法。例如，第三方A可能主张其对资金的抵押权优先于第三方B的普通债权。\n质疑合法性：如果第三方认为其他第三方的主张不合法（例如，主张基于欺诈、虚假陈述或与犯罪活动有关），可以向法院提出反对，要求法院驳回其他第三方的诉求。\n\n程序限制：第三方不能随意“反对”其他第三方的主张，必须通过正式的法律程序提出反对意见，通常以书面形式提交法院，并在听证会（Ancillary Hearing）中提供证据。法院会根据《美国联邦刑事诉讼程序规则》第32.2(c)和21 U.S.C. § 853(n)的规定，评估所有第三方的主张，确定财产的归属。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69bfa3539b902ed01154","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q2ec6cd3a18a3e9b94047","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":799,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-11T22:11:53.205Z","text":"盖尔卢克Gavenman,他们不合法，我要做的就是质疑他们的合法性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec6cd3a18a3e9b94047","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"},{"id":"q89cdfe7d38fdfb990c29","batch_id":"batch-000026","seq":800,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-11T22:15:55.664Z","text":"国内的汇大部分款都是通过农场对敲，这在出示证据时不好办","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89cdfe7d38fdfb990c29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000026"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000025","next_batch_id":"batch-000027"}