{"id":"batch-000028","number":28,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-08-16T06:55:39.214Z","date_end":"2025-08-23T15:46:39.648Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 028 (Aug 16, 2025 – Aug 23, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions focused on trial developments, procedural legitimacy, and internal strategic conflicts. Participants analyzed overlapping bankruptcy and criminal proceedings, questioning victim claim designations and the bankruptcy trustee's actions. While some explored retrial avenues under the Brady rule, fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine, or third-party interventions under 853(n) and the CVRA, others urged caution. 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我不存在套牢的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4986dfb8c658ba00e40a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q5a4f7b32d389b1839ad7","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":802,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:45:39.175Z","text":"那就对了呀 说的还是一回事啊 嫖娼海就是郭的共犯 韩国的主犯","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c87377faba00641e834","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a4f7b32d389b1839ad7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c87377faba00641e834","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q780fde4274267820257a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":803,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-22T14:45:51.665Z","text":"郭出不来，一切都是白扯，包括你们这些要钱的，都没戏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q780fde4274267820257a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qa61ee1c6faac331bc576","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":804,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:46:14.483Z","text":"你投了多少钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q780fde4274267820257a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa61ee1c6faac331bc576","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q780fde4274267820257a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qeec3cd260c47c3e6caef","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":805,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-22T14:46:19.136Z","text":"所以要钱的第一要务也是赶快让郭出来，而不是幸灾乐祸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeec3cd260c47c3e6caef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q7e85331b95f4c1553fc9","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":806,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-22T14:46:42.566Z","text":"零零碎碎几万刀","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa61ee1c6faac331bc576","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e85331b95f4c1553fc9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa61ee1c6faac331bc576","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qee77e0d55ef7d95b6958","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":807,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:46:43.649Z","text":"我没有幸灾乐祸 我是想要老郭进去 朴也进去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee77e0d55ef7d95b6958","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb4436feeef4f34387ad6","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":808,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:46:59.728Z","text":"你原来是韩国农场的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4436feeef4f34387ad6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9630602daea87bfa68f6","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":809,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-22T14:47:24.267Z","text":"你是想把这些共犯跟郭一网打尽就是了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9630602daea87bfa68f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qe17f2adef44964b9d904","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":810,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-22T14:47:42.946Z","text":"那你的钱更要不回来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee77e0d55ef7d95b6958","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe17f2adef44964b9d904","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee77e0d55ef7d95b6958","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qcb160e77d786031b4cb5","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":811,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-22T14:49:03.865Z","text":"错。不是韩国主犯。是整个案件的主犯之一。郭 无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a4f7b32d389b1839ad7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb160e77d786031b4cb5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a4f7b32d389b1839ad7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q0c0a75b987d8f5214ec0","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":812,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:51:32.758Z","text":"你说的是整个事件的角度 但是得有属地管辖权","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb160e77d786031b4cb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c0a75b987d8f5214ec0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb160e77d786031b4cb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q4cfd34aa0475b2baaf48","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":813,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:52:06.448Z","text":"朴跟哈就是韩国农场的领导 第一责任人 就是韩国的主犯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cfd34aa0475b2baaf48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q4faadf04d1482aefbee9","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":814,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:52:26.074Z","text":"你不能要美国的司法跑韩国来抓人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4faadf04d1482aefbee9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q4d0a815c807e28f66d0e","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":815,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-22T14:52:58.321Z","text":"luc 可以去追钱😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4faadf04d1482aefbee9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d0a815c807e28f66d0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4faadf04d1482aefbee9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q72d3d99b2bb874613ffc","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":816,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-22T14:55:19.208Z","text":"你要是把钱从哈恩那拿走了。你就是luc的目标了🎯🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4faadf04d1482aefbee9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d3d99b2bb874613ffc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4faadf04d1482aefbee9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qa3d6d32206218623f703","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":817,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-22T14:56:05.354Z","text":"任何人。可以从共谋饭 那拿到钱。都将是 luc的目标😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3d6d32206218623f703","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q10cba6ae9bc7bdc21e23","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":818,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-22T14:56:36.861Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ 这思路 你怎么看","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10cba6ae9bc7bdc21e23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9b3579a8e28a35acd6ce","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":819,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-22T14:57:10.634Z","text":"喜国已经臭了 很难洗白了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b3579a8e28a35acd6ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q4b26a79b9dd1b1b46d5f","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":820,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T14:59:49.630Z","text":"可以 让luc来找我吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b26a79b9dd1b1b46d5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q81cf1945e29b089f1ce9","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":821,"speaker":"xue***","date":"2025-08-22T15:25:41.200Z","text":"cosmos 是不是韩国农场的主犯？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4cfd34aa0475b2baaf48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81cf1945e29b089f1ce9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cfd34aa0475b2baaf48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q88c4cff19da3e0d3285f","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":822,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T15:35:30.277Z","text":"你是韩国农场的 我见过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81cf1945e29b089f1ce9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88c4cff19da3e0d3285f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81cf1945e29b089f1ce9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qadf39adda93bbf1fd70f","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":823,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-22T15:36:03.866Z","text":"那看你告不告了 另外看你给没给她打钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadf39adda93bbf1fd70f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q685799e01fbabdf4dd6a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":824,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-22T15:41:26.216Z","text":"我身边认识郭的有好几个 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只要有G系列投资，又不认为自己是七哥的受害者，你可以以案件的无辜第三方身份向法庭提交任何与你投资有关的动议，可以是要回你的投资，也可以是举证拒绝任何人拿走你的投资。\n3.新老联盟，小羊，天火，安小东等等都在做的同一件事就是通过告诉你真相把你吸引住，却又把你死死拦在法庭外，让七哥在庭上孤立无援，牢底坐穿。而且他们的确做到了，法庭上至今都没有一条对七哥有利的证据。反倒是有一万个不明真相的人冲到法庭朝他要钱！直到700号文件曝光，才让人们窥探到一丝七哥的真实处境，他并不像灭爆们天天宣传的那样潇洒自如天天下大棋，他现在没有翻译，无法与律师法庭正常沟通，甚至不能了解案件的进展情况，律师们也因为忙着赚钱而无暇顾及他的案子，而你们却还在天天盼着他王者归来……\n\n好在苍天有眼，现在有一群人为了七哥翻案早日回家，日以继夜的研究讨论案件卷宗，逐渐揭开了七哥案的黑幕。我们发现七哥的案子从破产案到刑事案，到处都充斥着程序不正义，虚假证据，检方的恶意指控误导，我们也制定了详细的计划，大家各自努力，依法翻案，依法救人！如果你想了解七哥案件的真实情况，欢迎来自由讨论🔗https://discord.gg/e3mmxKXXwV","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76756bba32b0d44bd986","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q133581403d372276e382","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qa9e2b17c680ea80cedb2","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":836,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-22T19:55:32.462Z","text":"g系列，hex，上庭，主张拒绝任何人拿走我的投资。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd0cb1b43089af77b3aa5","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9e2b17c680ea80cedb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qd0d3db8cda6e8c583b47","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":837,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-22T19:59:49.054Z","text":"那还得无数个贝贝配合。要是发现有更多战友或者关键证据要上庭了，他们就赶紧搞多个邮件轰炸法庭，又禁止第三方介入","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f5760f04b4bb11acbd1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0d3db8cda6e8c583b47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f5760f04b4bb11acbd1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q757442fc201a06a11022","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":838,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-22T20:06:59.228Z","text":"你被踢出来了吗？此文还在吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q133581403d372276e382","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q757442fc201a06a11022","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q133581403d372276e382","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qf1ee16c94e8de03929fb","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":839,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-22T20:32:24.538Z","text":"https://x.com/no3mos/status/1957665632788648318?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb3726e7452436e47ca14","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1ee16c94e8de03929fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q277947617afe4dfacce0","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":840,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-22T22:27:25.870Z","text":"文件507，我就直接说，法庭上没有对被告有利的人。504，379，盖尔卢克等等，都对老郭不利。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q277947617afe4dfacce0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q23fcdca3b0da5220c9a2","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":841,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-22T22:28:54.820Z","text":"质疑法官偏袒。后来我道歉了。但是，我内心就是怎么想的。因为必须尊重法官，法官允许我的文件上传了，我就道歉了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23fcdca3b0da5220c9a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q759b677fd4a281a391ec","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":842,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-22T22:53:13.912Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1959025702923112500?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q759b677fd4a281a391ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q1b5af4e24f0dad8cada1","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":843,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T00:23:36.751Z","text":"邊角料違規比如辛普森案，只是探員取證瑕疵而已","edited":false,"reply_to":"q759b677fd4a281a391ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b5af4e24f0dad8cada1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q759b677fd4a281a391ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qd4d36018380bb56c0ced","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":844,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T00:24:04.553Z","text":"然後一級謀殺不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4d36018380bb56c0ced","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qba1c4dfba2fa4369df3c","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":845,"speaker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板上釘釘","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b6a597f2694a9fd8c74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q7d00947660171aa5120a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":848,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T00:27:25.241Z","text":"就看法官的態度了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d00947660171aa5120a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qab3f8bf0f63d6d075f23","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":849,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T00:33:47.721Z","text":"1. Brady动议的适用性\n•  Brady规则的核心：根据Brady v. Maryland，检方有宪法义务披露对被告有利的重要证据（exculpatory evidence）或可用于弹劾检方证人的证据（impeachment evidence）。如果检方故意或无意隐藏此类证据，可能构成Brady违规。\n•  量刑前的适用：Brady义务贯穿整个刑事诉讼程序，包括审判和量刑阶段（见Cone v. Bell，2009）。在定罪后但量刑前，第三方发现新的Brady材料（如隐藏的开脱证据或证人可信度证据）仍可通过动议要求法院重新审视定罪或调整量刑。\n•  “完整明确”的Brady动议：如果第三方提供的动议包含明确、具体的证据（如文件、证人陈述或物证），证明检方隐藏了重要证据，且该证据可能改变审判结果（materiality标准，见Kyles v. Whitley，1995），法院通常会认真对待。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab3f8bf0f63d6d075f23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qddf43c2079f564f6cb50","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":850,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T00:35:07.678Z","text":"2. 挑战检察官\n•  可行性：Brady动议的核心目标通常是挑战检方的不当行为。如果第三方能证明检方故意或过失未披露关键证据，可能导致以下后果：\n    •  撤销定罪：如果隐藏的证据对定罪有实质影响，法院可能撤销定罪（如Michael Morton案，2011）。\n    •  重新审判：法院可能命令重审，允许被告使用新披露的证据。\n    •  量刑调整：即使定罪维持，隐藏的证据可能影响量刑（例如，显示被告罪责较轻）。\n•  程序：第三方可通过提交“新审判动议”（Motion for a New Trial）或“撤销定罪动议”（Motion to Vacate Conviction）提出Brady违规。通常需证明：(1)证据有利被告；(2)检方未披露；(3)被告受损害（prejudice）；(4)证据重要（material）。\n•  检察官的责任：若发现故意违规，检察官可能面临职业道德调查或纪律处分（如Stevens案，2009，举报人揭露检方违规，检察官被调查）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddf43c2079f564f6cb50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb1cd4cc2a95a574178bd","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":851,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T00:35:51.848Z","text":"3. 挑战法官\n•  有限可能性：直接挑战法官在Brady动议中较为困难，因为法官通常不负责证据披露（这是检方的义务）。但以下情况可能涉及法官：\n    •  程序错误：如果法官在审判中忽视了明确的Brady违规指控（例如，拒绝听证或错误裁定证据不重要），可通过上诉挑战法官的决定。\n    •  偏见或不当行为：如果第三方能证明法官在处理Brady动议时存在偏见或不当行为（如故意忽视证据），可通过“司法不当”动议（Motion for Recusal）要求法官回避，或上诉至更高法院。\n    •  限制：法官享有较高的司法豁免权（judicial immunity），除非有极端不当行为（如腐败），直接追究法官责任难度较大。\n•  实际案例：在Amrine v. Bowersox（2003），第三方（无辜项目）提交的Brady动议揭露检方隐藏证人撤回证词，导致定罪被推翻，但法官本身未被直接挑战，仅程序错误被纠正。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1cd4cc2a95a574178bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q7018a128e5ff55c48cdf","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":852,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T00:38:24.627Z","text":"4. 第三方介入的作用\n•  优势：第三方（如无辜项目或独立律师）通常具有专业资源，能深入调查隐藏证据（如DNA、证人陈述）。例如，Morton案中第三方通过DNA测试和档案挖掘揭露Brady违规。\n•  程序：第三方可通过提交“法庭之友”简讯（amicus brief）或协助辩护律师提交Brady动议，推动案件重审。量刑前是关键窗口，因为法院尚未终结案件，动议更容易被接受。\n•  挑战：动议需具体证明检方隐藏了“重要”证据，且该证据可能改变结果。模糊或推测性的指控通常不被法院接受。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7018a128e5ff55c48cdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q0ebb0505f6233e76bb09","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":853,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-23T01:51:51.604Z","text":"你俩的这段话让我茅塞顿开。一直以来你俩和文贵等都在说程序不正义，让我似懂非懂，听着看着想着，我现在好像开窍一些。不知道以下的理解对不对。\n螺丝哥在今天的语音中打了一个很好的比喻：一部电影中飞行员坠机导致机上100多名乘客身亡，而该机长则幸存下来了。最初的判决是酒驾。但后来发现酒精检测仪的校证期已超过两天。从而酒驾被推翻。也就是说一个小小的程序不正义都有可能推翻一个重大案件。\n\n而郭文贵的案件存在诸多明显的程序不正义。文贵的刑事案件与民事案件即破产案件有大量的严重的关键性的重叠；他的刑事案件本身几乎没有受害者，而检方却生搬硬套地把破产案的债权人(受害者?) 偷梁换柱地、暗示性地搬到了刑事案件上来；文贵的前律师不得力，没人把这件事捅破，文贵估计也是在钓鱼让他们把事情做实，而法官睁一只眼闭一只眼，直到螺丝哥从墙内以利益相关方的身份和最省钱的、不请律师的方式向法庭发动议、作自我表述，即 ProSe。这个可是打开了一个缺口。螺丝哥成了照妖镜、试金石，小羊帮一开始试图躲避他，现在躲不掉了，就开始攻击他，说他社会层次低………\n再说喜交所6500名真实用户也被联盟、农场及喜交所介绍的律师盖尔Geyer律师误导，被检方改用RICO法案起诉已被逮捕的文贵。盖尔Geyer律师在获得大量喜交所用户真实信息后偷梁换柱，企图把这些登记人变成文贵刑事案的受害者。盖尔晚节不保，他严重、明显犯罪！在所有打着爱郭的旗号、暗地里害七哥的“爱郭贼”当中最坏的是小羊！小羊帮在收割最后一批韭菜！\n这一切的布局的总指挥是谁？文贵是我一生中所了解的人中最最善良的人，他对所有这些人都无私仇，他们为什么要害他？………，😂\n\nLuc 作为文贵的 Trustee (财产受托人) 也是一个重要证人，他居然没有出庭作证。Luc 可不是一个省油的灯。首先他不是文贵自己请来的、想要的人选，而且他与中国有大量的业务。说通俗点，Luc从中共掌权和控制的大陆收到了巨大的财富和利益，而文贵是中共最大的敌人，这不是明显利益冲突吗？这么滑稽的事也会发生在美国？用螺丝哥的话来说，Luc 执有宇宙追杀令，也就是说，文贵申请破产后 Luc 可以在全球范围内追讨到所有跟文贵申请破产之前有财产关系的人。两年多的时间过去了，他找到了任何一个与文贵有财产纠纷、来往的人吗？而我们所看到的却是 Luc 接受了无毛的豆豆、小福利的老公的姐姐龚足(竹) 这几个虚假的债权人登记。Luc 违法在先。后来文贵在直播中调侃式地说其他人也可以去效仿呀。结果当时的联盟秘书长老班长立刻乘机通过农场鼓动大家都去搞债权人登记，后来的法庭文件也显示有一千多人 (具体数据不详) 进行了债权人登记，而且这些所谓的债权人要求赔偿的数额也严重夸大、造假，其中的一个大家熟悉的、一直以挺郭形象出现的理发师要求财产赔偿达22亿美金；前枫叶农场的农场主飞翔的小鸟也在债权人登记的名单上，金额也是巨大的。这一切虚假的、严重抛高的数据导致这一千多登记了的债权人总的索赔金额超过1000亿美金。Luc 在最近的法庭文件上显示他主动下调他的索赔金额从一千多亿降到了一个零头数字。他吃自己拉出去的屎。😂\n\n郭被抓及立案成立的基础就是Luc 跟联盟、农场，包括老班长明着暗着、连蒙带骗搞岀来的1000多个债权人又是G系列的主要受害人，虽然G系列后来被定为无罪，但是之前及当时被抓的逻辑是文贵掌控着G系列。\n这本身就是程序不正义。况且Luc的那一堆也是一个烂摊子，有一大堆的程序不正义，包括债权人绝大多数被误导，有一些是故意栽桩陷害、夸大金额，Luc的那一块也必须被打掉，被告律师可以要求举行一个听证会，Luc 必须作证。一旦Luc这块被打掉，案件就会被撤了。\n只是螺丝哥写了一句本不该是他写的话而被法官抓住。我们小老百姓的一点点程序不正义就会被抓出来痛批或者受到更严厉的惩罚。😂\n如果有更复杂的一步，那就是文贵的案件重新审理和开庭做 trial。到时候谁还会相信Q妹及联盟那一套骗术，真战友都会自己亲自去看庭审现场，而不是被新老联盟代表、控制庭审过程报道的话语权。\n(欢迎大家更正、补充。多谢🙏)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ebb0505f6233e76bb09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q1066f30da951b273f356","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":854,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-23T01:54:27.728Z","text":"喜马拉雅联盟农场陷害郭文贵，检方告诉老郭了啊？检方难道查不出是联盟农场涉嫌陷害郭文贵啊？\n喜交所，债权人，数字银行登记，包括喜交所公司也可能或者就是陷害郭文贵，检方，FBI调查多年，他们不知道啊？还是故意不告诉郭文贵啊？这些就是布雷迪义务！检方根本没有履行！\n对被告无罪，对减轻量刑有利的证据，检方必须披露给被告。这应该是美国所有刑事案件的标准程序!\n故意隐瞒，就是程序不正义！疏忽疏漏披露，也是程序不正义！在这个案件，检方绝对不是疏忽，检方绝对是故意！因为联盟农场搞的事情，又不是私下搞，而是公开搞！FBI怎么调查的啊？检方可以调动美国所有司法资源。就把案件搞成这个鸡扒屌样啊？下面是命令原文\n\n_为本命令的目的，政府有义务积极从所有现任或前任联邦、州和地方检察机关或导致对被\n告被指控的罪行进行起诉的调查机构获取本命令下须披露的所有信息。\n\n法庭给检方的命令，检方几乎可以调动所有司法资源。难道检方不知道联盟农场等合谋陷害郭文贵啊？美国纳税人的钱，他们都花了干什么了!\n\n就拿这个，如果法官正常，就应该撤销案件！联盟农场等陷害郭文贵，羊帮质疑帮都能说明白，检方装看不见啊？但是羊帮质疑帮绝对不去法庭上说。在这里的人，相信老郭，并且敢于行动的，就直接ProSe到法庭上把这些挑明！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1066f30da951b273f356","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qdf86ebe3e9e354f07ee6","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":855,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-23T04:18:59.760Z","text":"布雷迪法案，联盟农场肯定没有着重讲过。他们甚至会故意忽略","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf86ebe3e9e354f07ee6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q948fa3c3c570b5794057","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":856,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T07:57:42.162Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 螺丝哥，我和战友讨论，发现一个点，请你看看有没有可以深挖之处：\n\n债权人登记这件事，被法庭认定为郭先生鼓动的，涉嫌妨碍司法、虚假索赔。而实际上是联盟高层王雪冰等联盟人员具体组织、引导战友填报的。而郭先生1月18号视频是说的反话：“想发财的战友去填债权人登记”，后来应该是郭先生被禁言谈论此事，因此王雪冰等人大肆组织了上千G系列投资人的债权人登记。\n\n相当于是联盟管理层甚至农场组织制造了上千债权人，被检方认为是受害者。后面检方将联盟诉为共谋，也就是说共谋主导和组织对被告发起假报案。而被告与联盟是共谋关系，那么就是自己组织告自己？？\n\n这里面有没有不合逻辑的程序不正义之处？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q948fa3c3c570b5794057","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q52d75be94a3eb842a890","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":857,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T08:02:44.587Z","text":"你的问题直击了 郭案刑事部分、破产程序、联盟角色 三者之间的逻辑矛盾，我帮你梳理一下：\n\n1. 检方的逻辑链条\n    •    前提：郭文贵 + 同谋（联盟高层、喜马拉雅组织等） → 一起策划和实施诈骗。\n    •    结果：\n    1.    上千 G 系列投资人（主要通过联盟组织） → 成为受害者；\n    2.    这些人既在破产案里提交债权人登记（claim），又在刑事案里被 DOJ 当作“受害人”统计；\n    3.    DOJ 认为郭后来鼓动战友去债权人登记，是在 操纵/虚假膨胀受害人数，等于 妨碍司法。\n\n2. 实际情况中的逻辑问题\n    •    （1）“自己组织告自己”\n    •    如果检方把联盟（NFSC/农场/王雪冰等人）定性为“郭的共谋”，那这些人主导债权人登记，就相当于是 共谋团伙自己制造受害人群体，然后又作为“受害人”来指控被告郭。\n    •    这逻辑确实会出现自我矛盾：\n    •    一方面检方说他们是共谋（同伙）\n    •    另一方面又说他们是受害人（victims）\n    •    这种“同伙变受害人”的叙事在刑事法上是模糊甚至冲突的。\n    •    （2）郭的“反话” vs. 检方的解释\n    •    郭在 1 月 18 日说的“想发财的战友去填债权人登记”——如果这是讽刺/反话，本意是批评那些虚假索赔。\n    •    检方却解读为“鼓动战友虚假登记”，从而构成 妨碍司法。\n    •    但问题在于：实际组织者是联盟高层（王雪冰等），郭当时已被限制发声。\n    •    那么检方把责任归咎于郭，可能存在 证据链不足 或 选择性归因。\n    •    （3）破产受托人（Luc）的角色\n    •    Luc 有法定义务接收所有债权申报（包括虚假的），但他本应后续审查。\n    •    如果 Luc 在接收时没有及时识别虚假申报，却反而成为 DOJ 证明“受害人数庞大”的依据，那就是 程序上的漏洞：虚假债权未经筛查，就被当作刑事案证据使用。\n\n3. 程序公正角度的质疑\n    •    矛盾点：\n    •    DOJ 一边说联盟是“共谋”，一边用联盟推动的债权登记来证明“受害人规模”。\n    •    这实际上把 共谋生成的虚假登记 当作了 受害人证据。\n    •    程序不正义的可能性：\n    •    如果法院未严格区分“真实受害人”和“共谋制造的登记”，那等于让同伙“自导自演”强化指控；\n    •    被告郭文贵在这种情况下，会出现“被共谋者制造的假证据反过来定罪自己”的问题。\n\n✅ 结论\n\n是的，这里面确实存在逻辑和程序上的不合：\n    •    如果联盟既是共谋者，又是制造债权人登记的操作者，那么他们制造的“受害人”数据就不能完全作为郭的犯罪证据。\n    •    DOJ 如果依赖这些未经核实的登记来拒绝保释、强化诈骗规模，可能涉嫌 程序不公，甚至触及 Brady 义务（检方必须披露有利于被告的证据）。\n    •    法院后续若认定大部分债权人登记是虚假/被操纵的，那么检方基于此的“数千受害人”说法就会大幅削弱。\n\n要不要我帮你整理一个 “逻辑矛盾示意图”，把 DOJ 的叙事链条 vs. 实际事件链条对比画出来？这样你能一眼看到“共谋制造受害人 → 用于指控共谋核心”的矛盾。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52d75be94a3eb842a890","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qc7d1443aea721af23eaf","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":858,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T08:08:16.323Z","text":"刚刚我在群里面问了一句给我禁言了，就是他们的垃圾联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7d1443aea721af23eaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q61d6f826a40aa304be91","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":859,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-23T10:22:21.088Z","text":"目前给检方发过布雷迪证据的，是不是只有瑞恩小哥。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf86ebe3e9e354f07ee6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61d6f826a40aa304be91","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf86ebe3e9e354f07ee6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q2125693e0f7b2808b553","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":860,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-23T10:25:38.867Z","text":"我也发了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61d6f826a40aa304be91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2125693e0f7b2808b553","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61d6f826a40aa304be91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q46143d5114728e7da1ce","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":861,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-23T10:27:08.029Z","text":"已经过去一个多礼拜了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46143d5114728e7da1ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q2fee53aae50e5b62764f","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":862,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T10:30:12.554Z","text":"从这个角度出发，就不用向检方质询这上千受害者是不是来自于Luc登记的那些G系列投资人的债权人，或者要求检方披露。\n\n1. 只要把老B长、农场组织战友申请债权人的录音、文字证据放上去，就可以证明是联盟组织的债权人登记。\n\n2. 这些登记为债权人的G系列（应该以GTV为主）投资者，已经默认了：他们认为投资失败或者未达预期，并认为这应该是郭先生的责任，因此他们去郭先生破产案登记为债权人。也就是说这些G系列投资人一旦填了债权人登记，就必然是潜在的G系列涉嫌欺诈案的受害者。检方把这些人与拱卒、无毛的豆豆视为同样的受害人，符合检方逻辑。\n\n3. 老B长等人以联盟作为平台，作为共谋人“自导自演”组织了受害者，涉嫌欺诈检方、报假案。而检方涉嫌核查失职。\n\n4. 一旦老B长等人以联盟作为平台，作为共谋人“自导自演”的证据确凿，这个立案基础上千受害人的”事实”就坍塌了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fee53aae50e5b62764f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q52cec3c2e468d793ae38","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":863,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T10:34:01.813Z","text":"再说直接一些检方的默认逻辑：这些人去郭先生破产案登记债权人就是隐含郭先生欺诈他们，否则他们为什么不直接诉G系列实体而单单只去郭先生破产案登记？因此检方结合拱卒、无毛的豆豆已经报案的情况，把他们一并当作受害人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52cec3c2e468d793ae38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q916018f84e81774ca06c","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":864,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T10:42:43.396Z","text":"接下来案件走向：检方涉嫌核查证据失职，或者检方无辜被联盟报假案欺诈，检方涉嫌错误抓捕（false arrest）程序不正义，被告被释放。\n\n而真正的嫌犯浮出水面：联盟内涉嫌贼喊捉贼的都会被RICO定罪。参考王燕平案例，真正的一系列嫌犯将被被绳之以法，包括组织农场借贷、喜交所内幕交易等违法行为的实施者，检方也可以有台阶下。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q916018f84e81774ca06c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qf605b4032a8228696262","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":865,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-23T10:52:15.163Z","text":"检方会一条道走到黑，给它台阶下它会下的话，螺丝哥的动议上传到卷宗后他们就应该释放被告抓捕联盟农场那些灭共演员。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf605b4032a8228696262","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qab34366e464990ebe670","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":866,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-23T10:54:25.889Z","text":"现在可以争取的是法官，只要ta解禁第三方自诉，基本可以确定ta不愿给检方和破产法庭一起死抗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab34366e464990ebe670","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qc29eee05cf056347d85d","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":867,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T11:15:10.398Z","text":"拖拖拉拉背后谁知道有什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab34366e464990ebe670","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc29eee05cf056347d85d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab34366e464990ebe670","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qe355e1b2b094c8a10b65","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":868,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T11:34:08.717Z","text":"谁特么在这事上捞钱了，都会有个结果","edited":false,"reply_to":"q916018f84e81774ca06c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe355e1b2b094c8a10b65","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q916018f84e81774ca06c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q24facbb343282ed4b61e","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":869,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T11:37:37.085Z","text":"没错，Yvette Wang已经给他们开了案例的先河。他们不会跑掉的。哪怕他们与检方有什么不起诉协议，我相信最终都保不了他们。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe355e1b2b094c8a10b65","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24facbb343282ed4b61e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe355e1b2b094c8a10b65","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q97f545572f6df4555ba5","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":870,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T11:39:32.606Z","text":"错误抓捕（false arrest）也是程序不正义，并且给检方提供了一个台阶，把真正的嫌犯绳之以法，把被告释放，最后皆大欢喜。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97f545572f6df4555ba5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9a074abf7d07520d23e7","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":871,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T11:42:04.781Z","text":"事实上，就是这么回事，他们在G系列的运作中涉嫌欺诈、组织犯罪，然后栽赃（组织发动债权人登记）给郭先生。\n错误抓捕就是还原案件事实的程序不正义关键点。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a074abf7d07520d23e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb8c7da061e2679e5ce3a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":872,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-23T11:46:30.279Z","text":"检方一直不提报案时候的受害人，","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a074abf7d07520d23e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8c7da061e2679e5ce3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a074abf7d07520d23e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q0fc507e54fb46b1c8f01","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":873,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-23T11:57:15.752Z","text":"三个疑点，第一，是否和债权人重叠。第二，所谓受害者是否是报案人。第三，有意隐藏报案人处于隐私保护还是其他目的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8c7da061e2679e5ce3a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fc507e54fb46b1c8f01","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8c7da061e2679e5ce3a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q7de0e534bfef92f13e31","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":874,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T12:06:00.576Z","text":"检方不用提，这个是默认的，就是来自破产案的债权人登记。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8c7da061e2679e5ce3a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7de0e534bfef92f13e31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8c7da061e2679e5ce3a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q882577a46a4d06d1ec80","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":875,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T12:07:16.320Z","text":"这个就是检方逻辑。 ［用户 ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q52cec3c2e468d793ae38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q882577a46a4d06d1ec80","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52cec3c2e468d793ae38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb46217ab1220bf4d559c","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":876,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T13:33:57.476Z","text":"错误抓捕需要基于一个事实： 债权人被当作受害人的一部分。我们现在只是在猜 所以要给检方发布雷迪义务 让他们公布 初始受害人 是债权人 还是gtv","edited":false,"reply_to":"q916018f84e81774ca06c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb46217ab1220bf4d559c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q916018f84e81774ca06c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q27cdde9a3181ffb1ddbe","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":877,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T13:35:18.695Z","text":"我后来研究过 初始受害人可能不仅包含债权人 还有gtv 就算gtv民事案已经和解 但检方作为抓捕依据 继续指控gtv 似乎是合法的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2fee53aae50e5b62764f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27cdde9a3181ffb1ddbe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fee53aae50e5b62764f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q5c2bc0ca889fc4a0a618","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":878,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T13:36:25.302Z","text":"我们需要给检方发布雷迪： 文件7里面提到的 thousands受害人 是怎么构成的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c2bc0ca889fc4a0a618","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9f7d4a467b699af6b039","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":879,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T13:46:40.870Z","text":"检方能明确回答最好。再用联盟老B长组织投资人登记债权人这一犯罪事实打掉或者削弱”上千债权人”\n\n另外经过合理推断，这些人去郭先生破产案登记债权人就是隐含郭先生欺诈他们，导致投资失败？。检方结合拱卒、无毛的豆豆已经报案的情况，把他们一并当作受害人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f7d4a467b699af6b039","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q8daa6ffdd4321e2c73a4","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":880,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T13:51:03.915Z","text":"因为法庭说郭先生鼓动涉嫌妨碍司法虚假索赔，就认定Luc也非法登记。这个逻辑比较弱。因为Luc是先登记后核查的，在这点上Luc的过错也打不掉“上千债权人”。\n\n但是老B长代表联盟连同农场组织虚假登记就有问题了，即涉嫌自导自演，严重欺诈检方。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8daa6ffdd4321e2c73a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q6a358e38a2a352c9907d","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":881,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T13:52:08.350Z","text":"你去看文件7 文件26 文件192 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直接就说明保释违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92695c256fab53f900f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q1bc820d57fe4f9dc9b89","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":891,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T14:02:32.698Z","text":"这是有问题，那肯定了，他们就是冲着郭先生去的。\n但法庭要讲很强的逻辑。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bc820d57fe4f9dc9b89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q2e2c6f3048bc5b1487ba","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":892,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T14:04:55.500Z","text":"我并不是质疑螺丝哥的发现，我只是讨论下我的发现，可以加强打掉这个上千受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e2c6f3048bc5b1487ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qd51999260c978f47dafd","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":893,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T14:06:30.015Z","text":"螺丝哥发现的上千受害人是债权人登记造成的，这的确是立案的基础。人数众多、涉及金额巨大，因此检方介入提起公诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd51999260c978f47dafd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qee90f4c772ed6e4d2e44","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":894,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T14:08:28.056Z","text":"还不能完全确定 你去看文件7 检方直接把gtv5500人也作为受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd51999260c978f47dafd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee90f4c772ed6e4d2e44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd51999260c978f47dafd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q77a1884a96a8e91300c9","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":895,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T14:09:24.130Z","text":"说白了这个案子不就是他们陷害的吗？那么就还原真相。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a1884a96a8e91300c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q15be7041d1de3475e31a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":896,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T14:43:20.464Z","text":"我只负责把老郭弄出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9740e0d2fcc920000269","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15be7041d1de3475e31a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qcd4121046b5b8377f3f0","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":897,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-23T14:43:39.781Z","text":"4. 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 有法庭认定的文件吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8add1bfac351e0e2ee56","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad462b32e57d43821330","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qffe346126ce5716aebdf","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":902,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T14:58:05.543Z","text":"你听到什么音了？ ai语音吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q540a32974a9f8839bc18","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffe346126ce5716aebdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qf714f6721a94ece60112","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":903,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T14:58:35.858Z","text":"你认识郭先生家人？他们跟你说的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa6eab5dc21471617153","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf714f6721a94ece60112","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb752ce142b77bf48779a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":904,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T14:58:47.921Z","text":"你怎么确定？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbab9e8072ae149adf38c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb752ce142b77bf48779a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q21d682f6293f7b9eeb91","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":905,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T14:59:12.496Z","text":"各位 来大咖了！！这里来了一个郭先生的家里人！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7cc45bbdb458666e3442","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21d682f6293f7b9eeb91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qc3d555fc81875fd04e72","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":906,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:00:25.132Z","text":"你没问郭先生想怎么翻案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3d555fc81875fd04e72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q7e8ba9fed54df5fcffac","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":907,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:01:18.263Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 你们都说了啥？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e8ba9fed54df5fcffac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q620b97d5749bc89df3f0","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":908,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:01:35.915Z","text":"g系列账户冻结是2022年9月了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa437399697923307cf9b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q620b97d5749bc89df3f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q1c92a05e9708968c1f60","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":909,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:02:45.466Z","text":"是什么时候见的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c92a05e9708968c1f60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb7488b7c94b8b3d15059","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":910,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:02:50.577Z","text":"有照片吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7488b7c94b8b3d15059","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9df4a1717501ce184282","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":911,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:03:45.212Z","text":"没有照片 都是hearsay","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9df4a1717501ce184282","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q35264c48f021173b7355","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":912,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:03:57.648Z","text":"这里只相信证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35264c48f021173b7355","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q54c39552f8efe1493a7e","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":913,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:04:01.317Z","text":"和法律文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54c39552f8efe1493a7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q10859f9d56bd3fa552ae","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":914,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:04:40.479Z","text":"郭先生家人对案子的理解 基本也就是比小白再懂一点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10859f9d56bd3fa552ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9800194d6fc65861eb13","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":915,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:05:14.425Z","text":"所以你就算和家人联系上了 也帮不了郭先生","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9800194d6fc65861eb13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qde75e8ee5501dda1fd98","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":916,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:05:31.357Z","text":"那就没什么帮助","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74368beb5364e3f97b74","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde75e8ee5501dda1fd98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q7d8a8ababff79271bd05","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":917,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:06:18.097Z","text":"郭先生唯一打出来的电话 能确认的 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你他妈是个废物","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3054a3760c9db532dbca","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3d7bdea629ed4038b40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qe638fa4a8169fcc94a6a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":929,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-08-23T15:15:26.116Z","text":"我自已亲自操作了探访和打电话，确定了他们都是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe638fa4a8169fcc94a6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qe23b388e27c34885efef","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":930,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:16:09.051Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  来 这么快就露馅了 螺丝哥 他说你是中共搅浑水的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb7f1061052f493849dad","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe23b388e27c34885efef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q0086a68086c5bf301b91","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":931,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:17:04.539Z","text":"［用户 sto***］  你说的都是假的 昨天郭美跟我打过电话","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0086a68086c5bf301b91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q3e3a5845c5c7029f8ccb","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":932,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:17:20.476Z","text":"［用户 sto***］  郭美跟我说支持我们的法律行动","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e3a5845c5c7029f8ccb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9ec435af5da674c35a44","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":933,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:17:29.856Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 所以你说的才是假的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ec435af5da674c35a44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q55e87bc6859154510bc5","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":934,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:18:07.381Z","text":"郭美告诉我说 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只有骂人房间","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd282b94baa4095587ccc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q58421ff2868d2987d5ae","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":937,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:19:20.667Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 所以你联系的是假郭美 我联系的是真郭美","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58421ff2868d2987d5ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qee5368579e9cea751e3c","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":938,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:20:10.601Z","text":"这个问题不需要通过郭美解决 和联盟也没有任何关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fc2df46b951f0e6655b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee5368579e9cea751e3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q37a31ce9114df538c40a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":939,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:20:56.727Z","text":"郭美的音乐细胞如何？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa5d82bdd66d10034acc","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a31ce9114df538c40a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q43ac5fd6d1bde0637534","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":940,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:21:07.023Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 擅长什么曲风？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43ac5fd6d1bde0637534","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q536af8ee997118b9f849","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":941,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:21:26.302Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 郭美讲话哪里的口音？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q536af8ee997118b9f849","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qa33f249dc6ccb5690320","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":942,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:21:30.840Z","text":"河南的？山东的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa33f249dc6ccb5690320","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q259b508cc838b92ab259","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":943,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:21:56.961Z","text":"这句话 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郭先生没有任何电话给联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9033798ea3ac378f8757","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1de77837abcc047f96fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q4691462096bb686c31d4","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":949,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:24:44.357Z","text":"你怎么证明你说的是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4691462096bb686c31d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qcf77a67a5ca66713dbe4","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":950,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:24:53.300Z","text":"你无法证明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf77a67a5ca66713dbe4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q17e1483a03fe39fab29b","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":951,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:25:21.579Z","text":"我描述了郭美的口音和音乐细胞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17e1483a03fe39fab29b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9b62172eccfe758103ee","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":952,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:25:33.166Z","text":"我也很多事情也不能让大家知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb939b6941b62d2eb655c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b62172eccfe758103ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q6d33f7b3dbc9c0642d5a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":953,"speaker":"202***","date":"2025-08-23T15:25:49.687Z","text":"你得到 A10 是怎么回事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb939b6941b62d2eb655c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d33f7b3dbc9c0642d5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qedcb0fd5bc0e134bf191","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":954,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-08-23T15:26:04.520Z","text":"我很多事情亲自操作过后，我觉得一群自以为是的[屏蔽词]在侮辱我们的智商！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedcb0fd5bc0e134bf191","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q7daf41953c41bad4fc9b","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":955,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:26:22.540Z","text":"什么影视作品？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8d1dad21cd98be5e1a0","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7daf41953c41bad4fc9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qaf85848b1623c5cb44b2","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":956,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-08-23T15:27:03.027Z","text":"很多人缺的是亲自参与","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf85848b1623c5cb44b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q2c603ff74bcfb3a719e6","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":957,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:27:03.914Z","text":"［用户 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有艺术的成分","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc43f1183fb5d831e1be2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q3334a84484f7967c546d","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":959,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:27:44.801Z","text":"被中共带走算什么影视作品","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3334a84484f7967c546d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q19fd04a0fbf2eb8dedf8","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":960,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:28:20.290Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 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为什么会被她拿到？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfea76247d68d9770959b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q645b7b1ee6aaab28657a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb5371155cfdc611dde8c","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":962,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:29:24.542Z","text":"这合理吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5371155cfdc611dde8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q9e939d41cbd14f32a005","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":963,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:30:41.302Z","text":"你怎么证明你是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d6cedc5b136cdab5ec2","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e939d41cbd14f32a005","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q144ccb3168b10220db28","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":964,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:30:46.338Z","text":"你怎么证明我是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q144ccb3168b10220db28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q1bc1054312c86f16cc26","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":965,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:31:05.875Z","text":"你没有任何办法证明 说的都是屁话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bc1054312c86f16cc26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qd31c800ac11a2ff9a676","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":966,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:31:23.617Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 郭美导演过哪些大型影视剧？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd31c800ac11a2ff9a676","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q890cfafa3436544c1385","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":967,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:32:25.124Z","text":"郭美导演过陈道明的 《归来》！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q890cfafa3436544c1385","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q6aa7ef40f99cbf1a2797","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":968,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:32:43.430Z","text":"你去看看那个电影副导演的名字！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aa7ef40f99cbf1a2797","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qfbc5cce7e5a3551cb0d0","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":969,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:33:04.996Z","text":"别你妈骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ddaa7cd507c7563df17","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbc5cce7e5a3551cb0d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q3f2510097098ccd55f4f","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":970,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:33:10.605Z","text":"你看有人信吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f2510097098ccd55f4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qab646ea6164ccae4dbef","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":971,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:33:48.343Z","text":"我再告诉你一个秘密 我们的法律行动是郭先生支持的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab646ea6164ccae4dbef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q792caa75023513ecfa70","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":972,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:34:24.965Z","text":"所以 我联系的是真郭先生 真郭美","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q792caa75023513ecfa70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qe4acdd0648a5f78b4b56","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":973,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:34:36.929Z","text":"你们联系的 联盟联系的 是假郭先生 假郭美","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4acdd0648a5f78b4b56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qfcefe74c47443a1a4871","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":974,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:34:45.848Z","text":"你满意了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcefe74c47443a1a4871","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q304b8b4a3c1aa2008e30","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":975,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:35:41.583Z","text":"那问题就来了 我们联系的郭美 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也没有视频 和电话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b77decb91f662c1f29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q1adbc87521a382118c3c","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":981,"speaker":"201***","date":"2025-08-23T15:36:55.666Z","text":"［用户 sto***］ 装神弄鬼","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1adbc87521a382118c3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qe56dd6ac164b27532449","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":982,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:37:28.595Z","text":"对的 所以我和真郭美连系 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那个中共迫害的影片","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6dbc7e4cb72485cbb837","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ebb36852a2fb2dd062e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qb49c1a9401a610eeb28a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":995,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:44:55.956Z","text":"当时有几个演员？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb49c1a9401a610eeb28a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q3669739a3fc48d10ba46","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":996,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:45:00.445Z","text":"取景地是哪里？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3669739a3fc48d10ba46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q73c5fe3953ad1e4b750a","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":997,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:45:03.378Z","text":"谁写的剧本？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c5fe3953ad1e4b750a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q8853dc93fb887be364ee","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":998,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:45:13.877Z","text":"摄像是谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8853dc93fb887be364ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"qc038704411bf59b89cd8","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":999,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:46:33.867Z","text":"［用户 sto***］  你慢慢编吧 不急","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc038704411bf59b89cd8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"},{"id":"q8cd15fd41dec3d1f3f5b","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":1000,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-23T15:46:39.648Z","text":"编真一点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cd15fd41dec3d1f3f5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000027","next_batch_id":"batch-000029"}