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🙏🙏.......”这种空洞作呕的东西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a5485e765c07d7c7310","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1110bb209ebd012e6411","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":210,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T15:48:03.308Z","text":"互联网上思辨的地方多了,言论自由的地方多了,你不关注郭案,你来这观察什么思辨啊?","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88a46098dc067a11cde5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1110bb209ebd012e6411","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88a46098dc067a11cde5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q8ab6df2dc400521b4858","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":211,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-08-28T15:48:55.342Z","text":"［用户 zci***］  你这杂碎，一边在诈骗联盟维稳，一边换这个号来这里玩儿心理战，你就是纯纯的[屏蔽词]🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab6df2dc400521b4858","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb49d515a357e472d12df","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":212,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-28T15:49:22.445Z","text":"因为你们这个群体在上演一出真人秀，别的东西，大多存于纸面，不生动。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1110bb209ebd012e6411","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb49d515a357e472d12df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1110bb209ebd012e6411","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q359c22d9a31a57ca22f0","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":213,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-28T15:50:25.670Z","text":"你的钱拿不回来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ab6df2dc400521b4858","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359c22d9a31a57ca22f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab6df2dc400521b4858","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q371a78864eb5602ab2db","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":214,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-28T15:50:33.702Z","text":"而且这种事实上的宗教崇拜，却又不是真正意义上的宗教信仰，确实历史罕见。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q371a78864eb5602ab2db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q86b9d9a066ac59726216","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":215,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T15:51:07.584Z","text":"你咋这么别扭,关注郭就说关注郭,别不好意思,😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb49d515a357e472d12df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86b9d9a066ac59726216","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb49d515a357e472d12df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q37ff1c650e7ccaf605b8","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":216,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-28T15:52:03.719Z","text":"你的钱拿不回来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88a3bc31f01c2f7095dc","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37ff1c650e7ccaf605b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qa5b5cc1162b6d2ba320a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":217,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-08-28T15:52:53.672Z","text":"得，你确实理解不了我说的意思。不费口舌，你不必跟我继续说了，我只拿你当个观摩对象即可。你们聊正事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5b5cc1162b6d2ba320a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc751ae867c66c6618875","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":218,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T15:52:58.817Z","text":"一个人花大量时间关注一个讨论郭案的群,最后还不承认自己关注郭文贵,历史罕见","edited":false,"reply_to":"q371a78864eb5602ab2db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc751ae867c66c6618875","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q371a78864eb5602ab2db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q7ac6d843c37709f28bd4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":219,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-08-28T15:55:16.636Z","text":"［用户 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第三方可以引用853n和cvra介入,至于853n和cvra有什么权利,自己问问机器人就知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91158d217a84f52cb72d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":222,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-28T15:59:55.221Z","text":"纽约南区检方网站提示公告：https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/united-states-v-ho-wan-kwok-aka-miles-guo-and-kin-ming-je-aka-william-je\n\nAugust 21, 2025 update:\n\nOn August 11, 2025, the Court entered a Preliminary Order of Forfeiture as to Specific Property/Money Judgment against Miles Guo which, among other things, forfeited Guo’s interest in certain property. Any victims or third parties that have previously filed a Petition for Remission/Mitigation with respect to the assets contained in the Preliminary Order of Forfeiture as to Specific Property/Money Judgment entered against Yanping “Yvette” Wang do not need to file another Petition for Remission/Mitigation with respect to Guo.\n\nIn the event of a final order of forfeiture is entered for any assets contained in Guo or Wang’s forfeiture orders, the Government will evaluate all Petitions for Remission/Mitigation submitted in this case.\n\nSimilarly, any victims or third parties that have filed Petitions with the United States District Court, Southern District of New York objecting to the Government’s forfeiture do not need to submit an additional Petition following the entry of Guo’s preliminary forfeiture order.\n\n2025年8月21日更新：\n\n2025年8月11日，法院针对郭文贵签发了《特定财产/金钱判决初步没收令》，其中除其他事项外，没收了郭文贵对特定财产的权益。任何曾就王雁平初步没收特定财产/金钱判决令所涉资产提交减免/赦免请愿书的受害人或第三方，无需就郭文贵另行提交减免/缓刑请愿书。\n\n若郭或王的没收令所涉资产最终被下达没收令，政府将评估本案中提交的所有减免/赦免没收申请。\n\n同样，任何已经向美国纽约南区地方法院提交反对政府没收申请的受害人或第三方，在郭文贵的初步没收令签发后，亦无需再次提交申请。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q46408e620c0c401d99d6","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":223,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-08-28T16:02:35.494Z","text":"喜国要结束了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46408e620c0c401d99d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qeb362c6d757e74dbfb4d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":224,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T16:17:41.710Z","text":"很多人汇款的账号就不在公告里的账号里，这种情况是只能邮寄的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb373cace4ea684e2f832","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb362c6d757e74dbfb4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q042acce479279fca98c3","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":225,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-08-28T16:20:02.708Z","text":"错了，大多不是什麼信徒，信徒是缺乏理性的狂熱。這裡都在理性分析法庭文件，理性和狂熱本就是邏輯悖論，只有一個能成立，你覺得這裡是理性還是狂熱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd701fc25bd16ea0b4482","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q042acce479279fca98c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd701fc25bd16ea0b4482","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc659181fc49d3fe4d13b","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":226,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T16:32:27.119Z","text":"这是啥意思？同一个人不能重复提交动议了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc659181fc49d3fe4d13b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q16f171cfca4ccb54e83e","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":227,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T16:47:51.461Z","text":"这个指的是通过政府链接提交申请的，也就是联盟不能再组织一次填表了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q100ccc36eb1251aac1f9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16f171cfca4ccb54e83e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf3efe4ac80a1b3d69ca0","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":228,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T16:49:50.070Z","text":"填表就是要钱,和去法庭发动议两回事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16f171cfca4ccb54e83e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3efe4ac80a1b3d69ca0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16f171cfca4ccb54e83e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qec17376b346fd0a969f4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":229,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T16:56:06.554Z","text":"那不如第三方来的快，直接发邮件，不同意任何人动你的钱，谁动干谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb362c6d757e74dbfb4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec17376b346fd0a969f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb362c6d757e74dbfb4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe1e24c02c275a71e126f","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":230,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T16:57:31.282Z","text":"也就是，填了表的不能再填，那影响他们改投第三方吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3efe4ac80a1b3d69ca0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1e24c02c275a71e126f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3efe4ac80a1b3d69ca0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1a975218d82b7cfc163a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":231,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:02:10.184Z","text":"这个反对没收申请是啥意思？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a975218d82b7cfc163a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q3961f8a98a1414b1a883","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":232,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:04:20.251Z","text":"反对没收申请 = 853n = petition","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a975218d82b7cfc163a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3961f8a98a1414b1a883","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a975218d82b7cfc163a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf3ee437a398bfb700c66","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":233,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:05:02.708Z","text":"受害者权利法案 = CVRA = claim","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3ee437a398bfb700c66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1356747fb8c37feeb40a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":234,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:05:53.968Z","text":"那跟我们第三方这种区别在哪？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3961f8a98a1414b1a883","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1356747fb8c37feeb40a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3961f8a98a1414b1a883","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qbba69abc8089fccdc5b3","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":235,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:06:27.242Z","text":"填表=要钱 (petition 或者 claim)\n上法庭自诉= pro se = 第三方纠纷(比如反对虚假索赔)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba69abc8089fccdc5b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q4b7fd734bcfb061dca29","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":236,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:07:06.770Z","text":"哦，也就是政府的反对没收也是要钱，只是钱退回本人，不同意政府没收，对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b7fd734bcfb061dca29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q329f3c1ba8b8bb7de012","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":237,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:08:37.006Z","text":"最后都是钱退回本人,但是一个是有纠纷 (pro se) ,一个是只要钱,没纠纷 (填表)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q329f3c1ba8b8bb7de012","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf3fd7f26db39915a3743","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":238,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:09:07.685Z","text":"那之前上传的那几个要钱的，他们是通过政府反对没收申请上去的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q329f3c1ba8b8bb7de012","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3fd7f26db39915a3743","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q329f3c1ba8b8bb7de012","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q17caed8733eaaa4da7ee","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":239,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:09:41.565Z","text":"奥，奥，终于搞清楚了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbba69abc8089fccdc5b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17caed8733eaaa4da7ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba69abc8089fccdc5b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q6d6f8026d8ed9be36b05","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":240,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:09:58.290Z","text":"政府网上填表要钱,是不会传到法庭的.只有自诉发动议才回上传到法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d6f8026d8ed9be36b05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q0153de1808d5bf46f50e","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":241,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:10:15.725Z","text":"这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d6f8026d8ed9be36b05","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0153de1808d5bf46f50e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d6f8026d8ed9be36b05","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qa407e5696cbe53756b62","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":242,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:10:37.665Z","text":"什麼鬼？發郵件還能阻止法庭，不同意任何人動我們的錢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec17376b346fd0a969f4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa407e5696cbe53756b62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec17376b346fd0a969f4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q59b5a6de136a95add195","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":243,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:12:39.527Z","text":"網上填表沒上傳是因爲上次2-3月那次200多份不符合標準，很多人在asset id那裏都是全勾.","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d6f8026d8ed9be36b05","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b5a6de136a95add195","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d6f8026d8ed9be36b05","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe3ab4b4c3f7f7dc61118","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":244,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:13:25.859Z","text":"自诉发动议是发到法庭的邮箱 ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0153de1808d5bf46f50e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3ab4b4c3f7f7dc61118","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0153de1808d5bf46f50e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q397d82445879c259ced8","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":245,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:14:18.349Z","text":"還能發郵件到這個郵箱，自诉发动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3ab4b4c3f7f7dc61118","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q397d82445879c259ced8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3ab4b4c3f7f7dc61118","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1f5e9aa6783c495e0c55","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":246,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:14:36.905Z","text":"所以检方网站853N填表也会上传到法庭吗?","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59b5a6de136a95add195","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5e9aa6783c495e0c55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b5a6de136a95add195","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe33472b9c83decdc9848","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":247,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:15:10.129Z","text":"如果通過了正常來說應該會","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f5e9aa6783c495e0c55","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe33472b9c83decdc9848","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5e9aa6783c495e0c55","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb43fa7743ce17c248665","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":248,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:15:21.466Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q397d82445879c259ced8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb43fa7743ce17c248665","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q397d82445879c259ced8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe9123a6ed9629136f59e","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":249,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:18:19.383Z","text":"可以郵寄853N和這個pro se同時進行？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb43fa7743ce17c248665","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9123a6ed9629136f59e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb43fa7743ce17c248665","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q8a4def1022e99d4bded2","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":250,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:18:22.768Z","text":"那为什么现在都没有上传?之前检方说有几百份合格的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe33472b9c83decdc9848","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a4def1022e99d4bded2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe33472b9c83decdc9848","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q4d072eb0c4f112a6aad4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":251,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:18:57.885Z","text":"我怎麼聽到的是幾百份（200多份）不合格","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8a4def1022e99d4bded2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d072eb0c4f112a6aad4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a4def1022e99d4bded2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q833c575a043083adc40f","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":252,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:19:50.982Z","text":"可以.但是pro se是如果你有纠纷.单纯要钱填表就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9123a6ed9629136f59e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q833c575a043083adc40f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9123a6ed9629136f59e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe7eac13bf705e8e5bb79","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":253,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:20:53.362Z","text":"邮寄只有在美国的才可以. 中国的只能填表,或pro se","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7eac13bf705e8e5bb79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qddc2e7275d2d15140ded","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":254,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:22:00.699Z","text":"我也不在美國, 可以郵寄快遞853n過去, 我打電話問了凍結資產的部門.","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7eac13bf705e8e5bb79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddc2e7275d2d15140ded","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7eac13bf705e8e5bb79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qfab52a0d2d7b3ecd4ada","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":255,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:24:41.325Z","text":"是不是不需要邮寄?在中国的肯定是不能邮寄的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qddc2e7275d2d15140ded","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfab52a0d2d7b3ecd4ada","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddc2e7275d2d15140ded","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe6e861363fbcb6bad39d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":256,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:25:57.560Z","text":"可以順豐寄國際文件吧,","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfab52a0d2d7b3ecd4ada","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6e861363fbcb6bad39d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfab52a0d2d7b3ecd4ada","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q79c6036d2089121e1330","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":257,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:27:51.469Z","text":"那就不知道了,但是自诉直接发邮件就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6e861363fbcb6bad39d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79c6036d2089121e1330","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6e861363fbcb6bad39d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qa63919ab4a1dcd858be6","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":258,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:28:59.669Z","text":"哪怕,你當時匯款的帳號，不在公告文件里的asset id也可以？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q79c6036d2089121e1330","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa63919ab4a1dcd858be6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79c6036d2089121e1330","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q28b9ef760b1af1a103a0","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":259,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:30:00.846Z","text":"不知道,这个要去问检方或者法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa63919ab4a1dcd858be6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28b9ef760b1af1a103a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa63919ab4a1dcd858be6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf6e0a3e70b0ddbc7d565","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":260,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:31:40.065Z","text":"#652號, 他就是不在asset id，但是他上傳上去了，不知道他是prose還是郵寄過去的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28b9ef760b1af1a103a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6e0a3e70b0ddbc7d565","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28b9ef760b1af1a103a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qab289918db788e8c8fba","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":261,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-08-28T17:34:38.143Z","text":"✅","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3961f8a98a1414b1a883","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab289918db788e8c8fba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3961f8a98a1414b1a883","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf3b0e405de368f8abeb3","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":262,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:35:23.508Z","text":"现在上传的应该都是pro se, 你看看他文件的格式就知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6e0a3e70b0ddbc7d565","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3b0e405de368f8abeb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6e0a3e70b0ddbc7d565","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q9a5dfec2d8631c3b4ba6","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":263,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:36:00.930Z","text":"這個怎麼看？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3b0e405de368f8abeb3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a5dfec2d8631c3b4ba6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3b0e405de368f8abeb3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q55ea9c64ec36f95742e8","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":264,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:36:18.535Z","text":"检方可能想等合适的时机把所有853n一起上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ea9c64ec36f95742e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb505feac307e3dd97d08","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":265,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:36:54.624Z","text":"這個怎麼看是不是pro se？ 就看是不是自己代表自己？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb505feac307e3dd97d08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q0c47955bcc9335973dcf","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":266,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:36:59.435Z","text":"如果是检方上传,表格是一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c47955bcc9335973dcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe76d6e273257461b4753","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":267,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:40:04.819Z","text":"这个一看就是pro se","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe76d6e273257461b4753","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qa2ab2c7174e291ee60e4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":268,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:40:45.743Z","text":"Gavenman, Jeffrey是誰啊？我看他上傳超多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c47955bcc9335973dcf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2ab2c7174e291ee60e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c47955bcc9335973dcf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qcbb54726f6327694bf09","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":269,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:41:08.105Z","text":"数字银行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbb54726f6327694bf09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q13c81c08b137769ad2aa","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":270,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:42:05.673Z","text":"那些都是数字银行代理要钱的,但是有几个撤回的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13c81c08b137769ad2aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc005eaacd53d6f8384a4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":271,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:43:30.976Z","text":"其实要钱根本不需要找律师,自己填表就行了,找律师就是浪费钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc005eaacd53d6f8384a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q0f1b6665d9c264dc7f96","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":272,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:44:57.682Z","text":"我也是自己填寫853N, 已經填完了，但是還在琢磨什麼時候郵寄的時候就突然推上刷到這個群","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc005eaacd53d6f8384a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f1b6665d9c264dc7f96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc005eaacd53d6f8384a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q78c9e78866ab22885796","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":273,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:47:25.148Z","text":"要钱填表就行了, 超级简单, 这个群主要是讨论第三方纠纷的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f1b6665d9c264dc7f96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78c9e78866ab22885796","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f1b6665d9c264dc7f96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd686ef4b55bbaeb9c571","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":274,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:49:16.951Z","text":"我知道，現在就是如果我這個ancillary petition也能通過發郵件給ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov上傳的話，那我還郵寄呢蛋啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78c9e78866ab22885796","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd686ef4b55bbaeb9c571","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78c9e78866ab22885796","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1ea74286c4d1eedb53a6","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":275,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:49:35.589Z","text":"我想請你幫忙看下，我弄得一個853的樣板","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78c9e78866ab22885796","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ea74286c4d1eedb53a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78c9e78866ab22885796","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q52e55bcf05446e8120f6","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":276,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:51:26.686Z","text":"你在检方网站填表不就行了?","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd686ef4b55bbaeb9c571","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52e55bcf05446e8120f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd686ef4b55bbaeb9c571","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd1e997b1b6601d83f871","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":277,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:52:10.738Z","text":"不能網上填，因爲大部分匯款的帳號不在公告里被凍結的賬戶內","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52e55bcf05446e8120f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1e997b1b6601d83f871","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52e55bcf05446e8120f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q40587c5301dfd8896417","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":278,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:52:35.964Z","text":"自诉是有纠纷的才去给法庭发邮件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40587c5301dfd8896417","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qcc97139a5cefcea0f1f0","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":279,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:52:51.769Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1e997b1b6601d83f871","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc97139a5cefcea0f1f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1e997b1b6601d83f871","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q9cb088b83965cdc5bc5d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":280,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:53:12.106Z","text":"那你可以自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cb088b83965cdc5bc5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd2269afe416bdb5cb93c","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":281,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:54:29.681Z","text":"如果你被农场主坑了,你可以自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2269afe416bdb5cb93c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q476a4003c13cb096d61f","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":282,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T17:55:08.919Z","text":"這個\"自訴\"就是, 發郵件到ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov，然後他們幫你上傳？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2269afe416bdb5cb93c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q476a4003c13cb096d61f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2269afe416bdb5cb93c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qcdf85a377153e52d6e46","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":283,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:55:13.057Z","text":"对啊，你投资了，你就有权力说话，有权力保护自己的投资","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa407e5696cbe53756b62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdf85a377153e52d6e46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa407e5696cbe53756b62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q5f932f010eb04e15dca5","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":284,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:55:50.008Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q476a4003c13cb096d61f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f932f010eb04e15dca5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q476a4003c13cb096d61f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q53ddc99cc4166ce36d1f","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":285,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:56:02.468Z","text":"你看这个图 ［用户 rod***］ ☝️","edited":true,"reply_to":"q88630891a5a915507197","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53ddc99cc4166ce36d1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qfe106acc363312b8efd5","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":286,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T17:56:22.672Z","text":"你看一下这个网站: https://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/prose","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe106acc363312b8efd5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qa2916165592a1734ddd3","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":287,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:57:22.385Z","text":"这跟那300多人没关系吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59b5a6de136a95add195","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2916165592a1734ddd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b5a6de136a95add195","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf1c092485c0bcca95c1a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":288,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:58:22.299Z","text":"自诉写邮件是有格式要求的，先了解一下，然后自己写完了让ai给你优化，翻译","edited":false,"reply_to":"q397d82445879c259ced8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1c092485c0bcca95c1a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q397d82445879c259ced8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qcda26cd937efc2920093","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":289,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T17:59:30.551Z","text":"是哪个文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8a4def1022e99d4bded2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda26cd937efc2920093","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a4def1022e99d4bded2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q43e694165babf8391f51","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":290,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:00:00.077Z","text":"忘了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcda26cd937efc2920093","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43e694165babf8391f51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda26cd937efc2920093","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q6a175d27f674edadf7b2","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":291,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:01:46.294Z","text":"喜和这种不要钱的也退回本人？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q329f3c1ba8b8bb7de012","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a175d27f674edadf7b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q329f3c1ba8b8bb7de012","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q9c164fc1ed46c4656f64","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":292,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:05:24.187Z","text":"我的那份853n，就是按照504的写的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4be77e2e01aace4c846e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c164fc1ed46c4656f64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd7282e18194893e5c773","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":293,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:05:34.235Z","text":"律师吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2ab2c7174e291ee60e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7282e18194893e5c773","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2ab2c7174e291ee60e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q643373e1ff4c77974364","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":294,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:05:45.030Z","text":"自诉引用853n, 你动议里要说你要钱,然后检方要和你开会 (ancillary proceeding), 会上你要提供证据,然后检方决定是不是给你钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q643373e1ff4c77974364","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd8bd617c26edfe403c64","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":295,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:06:49.557Z","text":"这个会是线上开？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q643373e1ff4c77974364","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8bd617c26edfe403c64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q643373e1ff4c77974364","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb34b3f7ba1adb313c48f","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":296,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:07:08.536Z","text":"不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8bd617c26edfe403c64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb34b3f7ba1adb313c48f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8bd617c26edfe403c64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qfdfa6202ce717f835556","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":297,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:07:55.185Z","text":"但这个群的意见是,大概率去要钱的人最后都拿不回钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdfa6202ce717f835556","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q094b094a0d69f2465963","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":298,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:08:36.534Z","text":"检方文件里已经说了，只有被告审判完成才会考虑赔款问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q094b094a0d69f2465963","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc12636b22484bcb1389f","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":299,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:09:18.694Z","text":"这个要钱的人说的是填写claim和petition的，还是指的是pro se自诉的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdfa6202ce717f835556","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc12636b22484bcb1389f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdfa6202ce717f835556","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q90401ed2b32a0cb707a5","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":300,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:09:37.344Z","text":"我个人感觉所谓的赔款就是检方勾引人们作受害人的诱饵，一旦审判完成，赔款将遥遥无期","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90401ed2b32a0cb707a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q6382d68fc578cae1e6f1","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":301,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:11:27.424Z","text":"这个说要开会的要求是不是就是要在自诉里写这几条？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q643373e1ff4c77974364","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6382d68fc578cae1e6f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q643373e1ff4c77974364","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q74b98849646465cac6f8","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":302,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:11:57.893Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  ［用户 rui***］ 重复提交？怎么这群里都是新面孔出现了。这感觉 有点不对劲啊。大家来看看","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb373cace4ea684e2f832","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74b98849646465cac6f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe2da138d139a8c91f815","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":303,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:12:57.554Z","text":"人多了啊，200多了。也到了关键时刻了，当然关注的会多一些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74b98849646465cac6f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2da138d139a8c91f815","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74b98849646465cac6f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q4958288cfcf8d6349507","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":304,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:14:26.261Z","text":"又到了提交环节了吗？ 此时此刻必须谨慎对待了。\n两个选项 是什么情况","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4958288cfcf8d6349507","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe40bbb41b253cadac43a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":305,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:14:56.031Z","text":"我看好像都有要求开听证会这一条","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6382d68fc578cae1e6f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe40bbb41b253cadac43a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6382d68fc578cae1e6f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q276f48c1260f4a5846ce","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":306,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:15:12.214Z","text":"喜和没想要钱,他是去要真相的,他说最后不给他钱,也无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a175d27f674edadf7b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q276f48c1260f4a5846ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a175d27f674edadf7b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q6161d5a129565146c048","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":307,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:15:33.613Z","text":"按托雷斯说的现在第三方已经可以提交动议了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4958288cfcf8d6349507","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6161d5a129565146c048","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4958288cfcf8d6349507","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q199542e3c2cb79085790","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":308,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:15:56.931Z","text":"所以我们两个都不能选，\n得选第三个 \n发邮件上庭？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbba69abc8089fccdc5b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q199542e3c2cb79085790","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbba69abc8089fccdc5b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q64977788c219eda9047a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":309,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:16:10.511Z","text":"你自己定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64977788c219eda9047a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q221b2e999aff6c8fc71b","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":310,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:16:30.628Z","text":"想救七哥的，只有第三方一条路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q221b2e999aff6c8fc71b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc9407af4745134f4e91a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":311,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:17:28.069Z","text":"单纯只要钱不上庭说明情况的话，\n就等于踩了七哥一脚。对吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9407af4745134f4e91a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q8ea7519a153dab9b367c","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":312,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:18:11.806Z","text":"那就是默认被骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9407af4745134f4e91a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ea7519a153dab9b367c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9407af4745134f4e91a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q362f777bef2c0fddc9e4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":313,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:18:18.083Z","text":"那这个引导的表格，\n突然被陌生号在群里发出来，\n意图就很明显了吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q362f777bef2c0fddc9e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q0975ddb0b48ade464766","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":314,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:18:37.262Z","text":"无论你选哪个，都是承认自己是受害者了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0975ddb0b48ade464766","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q8526181dc6c06d75a3f9","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":315,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:18:48.134Z","text":"呵呵，挖坑越来越讲究技巧了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q362f777bef2c0fddc9e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8526181dc6c06d75a3f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q362f777bef2c0fddc9e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q3ca4197cf3a9c573bd8d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":316,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:18:52.475Z","text":"必须都不选，直接发邮件上庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ca4197cf3a9c573bd8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe3da547cc584e138ac9a","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":317,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:21:08.211Z","text":"所以这种提交环节，必须谨慎。大佬们这几天要多出来，以免被钻了空子，有人被错误的引导了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3da547cc584e138ac9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q98bdbf4943c5a9020ddd","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":318,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:23:10.486Z","text":"853n必须开听证会,给不给你钱检方决定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98bdbf4943c5a9020ddd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q5c3acaec5a7c23e84155","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":319,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:24:03.511Z","text":"我在打电话给forfeiture那边问她们，到底怎么回事，可不可以通过pro 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853n","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdfa6202ce717f835556","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c3acaec5a7c23e84155","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdfa6202ce717f835556","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf1b89946f1626e416b46","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":320,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-08-28T18:24:09.026Z","text":"现在的大伽们名声已臭不可闻，只好用一些高大上的新号、或者普通的小号来发帖及链接，各种手段都甪上。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q362f777bef2c0fddc9e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1b89946f1626e416b46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q362f777bef2c0fddc9e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf0c4dd9ced35d0136246","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":321,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:24:25.690Z","text":"本来就不想要钱，为了把证据交上去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98bdbf4943c5a9020ddd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0c4dd9ced35d0136246","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98bdbf4943c5a9020ddd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q5bd9231b6f349045a85f","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":322,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:24:41.250Z","text":"受害者赔偿也不可能是全额,不打掉luc, 估计最后一分钱也拿不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bd9231b6f349045a85f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q7e2f7d86f3b1470b2353","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":323,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:24:47.395Z","text":"forfeiture那边也[屏蔽词]了，他们也搞不清楚为什么pro 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是必须要邮寄的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d5d41a338918bcb53e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q6e57f4d8a248b18e511c","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":326,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:27:34.737Z","text":"那自诉的前提是不是要跟盖尔解除代理。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d5d41a338918bcb53e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e57f4d8a248b18e511c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d5d41a338918bcb53e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1aa7de68768d652c3cf1","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":327,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:28:05.319Z","text":"不是，pro se正常来说是被告的身份","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e57f4d8a248b18e511c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aa7de68768d652c3cf1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e57f4d8a248b18e511c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q14f33ffaaf81969c6d24","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":328,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:29:11.353Z","text":"好像一直说的是自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14f33ffaaf81969c6d24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qbfad4055d5ae41b0cb1d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":329,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:30:10.153Z","text":"请律师还叫自诉吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d5d41a338918bcb53e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfad4055d5ae41b0cb1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d5d41a338918bcb53e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb791f95f0efa1f4ce07e","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":330,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:30:32.804Z","text":"管他啥情况 只要能发邮件。\n我就把整个联盟坑害七哥的事情捅到法庭。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb791f95f0efa1f4ce07e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q693314c3568594344cc4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":331,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:30:59.822Z","text":"forfeiture的人的逻辑是，你根本不需要请律师你干嘛要诉，你身份只是在里面有利益","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfad4055d5ae41b0cb1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693314c3568594344cc4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfad4055d5ae41b0cb1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb945cf8f1a8b8d142c5e","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":332,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:31:15.435Z","text":"盖尔本来就是诈骗，你可以在自诉动议里宣布解除协议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e57f4d8a248b18e511c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb945cf8f1a8b8d142c5e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e57f4d8a248b18e511c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q07d28b4ed0be95c78834","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":333,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:31:42.326Z","text":"那是灭爆的洗脑话术","edited":false,"reply_to":"q693314c3568594344cc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07d28b4ed0be95c78834","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693314c3568594344cc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q37df4654508d426c5736","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":334,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:32:31.936Z","text":"forfeiture是DOJ管冻结的怎么和灭爆扯在一起...","edited":false,"reply_to":"q07d28b4ed0be95c78834","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37df4654508d426c5736","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07d28b4ed0be95c78834","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q45e952ad0aa4ea5ddbea","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":335,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:32:47.059Z","text":"就不用单独跟盖尔发邮件了是吧。\n可回头盖尔说我压根就没代理你。我也没证据他现在是不是代理我了。\n只有盖尔自己知道。\n法庭知道全部hid吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb945cf8f1a8b8d142c5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45e952ad0aa4ea5ddbea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb945cf8f1a8b8d142c5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q5f0662fc27c8ca1467d0","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":336,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:32:49.497Z","text":"自诉就是要抛开中间人，自己为自己辩护，这正是灭爆联盟，小羊他们最害怕的，因为自诉是完全不可控的。喜和，朱贝贝这两个最早自诉的，他们完全不同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0662fc27c8ca1467d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q183264e8a374ae20ada5","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":337,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:34:19.596Z","text":"翻译过来就是：你只有分钱的权利，没有资格上来表达的机会？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q693314c3568594344cc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q183264e8a374ae20ada5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693314c3568594344cc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q39cab8e211571c7320c2","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":338,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:35:23.732Z","text":"只要你确定你参加填表了就行，至于他怎么说不重要，因为你是被误导，有没有被代理你根本不知情，也没人公开说。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45e952ad0aa4ea5ddbea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39cab8e211571c7320c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45e952ad0aa4ea5ddbea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q263b893bb967bcf43186","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":339,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:35:49.756Z","text":"盖尔的角色是带着一群人来抢你的投资的，你打的是这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q263b893bb967bcf43186","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qdae87b5bba975716bfaf","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":340,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:35:55.274Z","text":"然后forfeiture的人先去搞明白为什么发邮件给pro se的能上传到docket(在电话里她们也搞不懂）, 然后等下打给我.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdae87b5bba975716bfaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q75d02036ccf9b54992b5","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":341,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:37:08.362Z","text":"是的 自己确认提交过。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39cab8e211571c7320c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75d02036ccf9b54992b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39cab8e211571c7320c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q39eb74190c338efd9f93","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":342,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:37:33.104Z","text":"这都是想要钱的角度出发，这个群不是讨论怎么要钱，是讨论怎么借自诉可以在法庭发言的机会，把对七哥有利的证据以保护投资为由发到法庭上，争取翻案的机会","edited":false,"reply_to":"q693314c3568594344cc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39eb74190c338efd9f93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693314c3568594344cc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q97affa661a08d7661305","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":343,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:41:06.052Z","text":"早听瑞恩的，把群名字改成：milesguo翻案群","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97affa661a08d7661305","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qfa606ecea9482cf973ad","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":344,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:42:55.824Z","text":"这个问农场主，她们能不能整理出你汇的钱到了公告上的那哪个账户？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2269afe416bdb5cb93c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa606ecea9482cf973ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2269afe416bdb5cb93c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q97226aba62f3f2dd7290","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":345,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:42:56.343Z","text":"大多数人之所以感兴趣就是想把钱拿回来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97affa661a08d7661305","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97226aba62f3f2dd7290","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97affa661a08d7661305","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q050460938ea596c643b0","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":346,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:42:56.892Z","text":"只要多几个有hid的战友，一起向法庭揭露联盟集体坑害七哥这件事，法庭也不敢视若无睹吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q050460938ea596c643b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q350902768dd17c3a7554","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":347,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:44:00.987Z","text":"第三方的人应该不会少，但是不要钱的有多少就很难说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q050460938ea596c643b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q350902768dd17c3a7554","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q050460938ea596c643b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q24627ebcb16e4dc30bd4","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":348,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:45:11.396Z","text":"发邮件揭露联盟的同时，\n也可以表明自己有投资被政府冻结，一样可以拿回钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97226aba62f3f2dd7290","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24627ebcb16e4dc30bd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97226aba62f3f2dd7290","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q8b65932d64a73a548c46","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":349,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:45:50.483Z","text":"螺丝哥和朱贝贝都自诉成功了,还有其他一群人,所以pro se 应该是没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d5d41a338918bcb53e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b65932d64a73a548c46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d5d41a338918bcb53e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf6f7f4b4a876d4f2ba71","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":350,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:45:59.410Z","text":"你可以把投资的证据一起传上去，证明这钱是你的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24627ebcb16e4dc30bd4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6f7f4b4a876d4f2ba71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24627ebcb16e4dc30bd4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q206d49fde5766a91e7c7","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":351,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:46:05.314Z","text":"发邮件揭露联盟，不代表着放弃要钱。并非二选一。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q350902768dd17c3a7554","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q206d49fde5766a91e7c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q350902768dd17c3a7554","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q9aefba835d0e29457d43","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":352,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:46:39.420Z","text":"对，可以同时进行。但是揭露联盟一定跟投资有关，比如不同意联盟组织的各种索赔来分你的投资","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aefba835d0e29457d43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc6aaabd9e91d358f6fb6","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":353,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:47:44.878Z","text":"她们都是通过pro se成功上传到docket？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b65932d64a73a548c46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6aaabd9e91d358f6fb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b65932d64a73a548c46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qf2cad5124bdf57611551","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":354,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:48:19.631Z","text":"853n只能说跟自己投资相关的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2cad5124bdf57611551","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qeafda37d6a5178725e83","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":355,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:48:27.167Z","text":"联盟最恶心, 从一开始的锁币各种锁配额，然后她们自己搞的钱封了, 就还要大家再从新再汇一次","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9aefba835d0e29457d43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeafda37d6a5178725e83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aefba835d0e29457d43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q8e8d120a0cd4732b98c3","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":356,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:49:12.288Z","text":"那是七哥允许的，问题出在执行上，所有的规定都管不了联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeafda37d6a5178725e83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e8d120a0cd4732b98c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeafda37d6a5178725e83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qeabbec8652b70c4287ba","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":357,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:49:14.000Z","text":"也正好符合战友为啥来给法庭发邮件的理由：因为我有投资，而且联盟在坑害七哥，并且坑害投资人，想把七哥坑进监狱后，就没有人可以对投资有约束监管了，侵害我们投资人的利益。我们投资最大的保障就是七哥，而不是七哥骗了投资人。一直都是联盟在坑七哥和投资人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeabbec8652b70c4287ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q212bc8897680cc94caea","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":358,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:49:27.797Z","text":"这跟中共的党在法上没有区别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q212bc8897680cc94caea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q89b8c1144dc5417c6b13","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":359,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:50:39.213Z","text":"法庭的角度联盟和官司一毛钱关系都没有吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeabbec8652b70c4287ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89b8c1144dc5417c6b13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeabbec8652b70c4287ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qbacd1307cefd3a4942ce","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":360,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:50:40.789Z","text":"对啊,很多人都自诉成功了,从504开始,发邮件去法庭就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6aaabd9e91d358f6fb6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacd1307cefd3a4942ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6aaabd9e91d358f6fb6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qa5bb2c4aa092d2cedbb8","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":361,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T18:51:06.449Z","text":"打联盟抓住一点，联盟和农场负责人已经被法庭确定为被告的共谋(388文件)，共谋又组织人到法庭来要钱，这不是开玩笑吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeabbec8652b70c4287ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5bb2c4aa092d2cedbb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeabbec8652b70c4287ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q30a47c42658d3946e1ff","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":362,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:51:35.219Z","text":"那其实说这个自诉就是等于是搭一个梯子上传文件，并且要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbacd1307cefd3a4942ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30a47c42658d3946e1ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacd1307cefd3a4942ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qfd4f7bda6aabe838676c","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":363,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:51:42.168Z","text":"现在pro se有审查,但是你只说和钱有关的应该会上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd4f7bda6aabe838676c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q335daf0c2ac8f8a8d633","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":364,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T18:51:51.170Z","text":"那这一点也要说出来，给司法打脸。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5bb2c4aa092d2cedbb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q335daf0c2ac8f8a8d633","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5bb2c4aa092d2cedbb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q12d84c6e371142a3e859","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":365,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:52:29.796Z","text":"你看下我私聊发你的格式，是不是这种？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd4f7bda6aabe838676c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12d84c6e371142a3e859","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd4f7bda6aabe838676c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q97d7637ec13630fa0fdc","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":366,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:54:21.061Z","text":"螺丝哥522动议说的很清楚了\nhttps://x.com/Haier918/status/1906870070912921904","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97d7637ec13630fa0fdc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q12642191d2d0818742ee","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":367,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:56:58.903Z","text":"我不能给你法律意见, 法律问题你问一下律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q12d84c6e371142a3e859","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12642191d2d0818742ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12d84c6e371142a3e859","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qaff140f1c187b2de80dd","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":368,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T18:57:15.763Z","text":"我看515 516 都是按照我这种格式","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97d7637ec13630fa0fdc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaff140f1c187b2de80dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97d7637ec13630fa0fdc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q7f04b307216055d6151d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":369,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T18:59:21.547Z","text":"联盟农场都是共谋犯","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89b8c1144dc5417c6b13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f04b307216055d6151d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89b8c1144dc5417c6b13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd9ace9dc8ba833df1c11","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":370,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:01:35.980Z","text":"另外我问了forfeiture那边，我们没成功上传的，可以再次file","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9ace9dc8ba833df1c11","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22f6f541ee56e5eeb9f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q32e9ba133174ec87e433","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":371,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:03:53.103Z","text":"怎么没关系，都被认定是七哥的共谋了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89b8c1144dc5417c6b13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e9ba133174ec87e433","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89b8c1144dc5417c6b13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb064210805ace52d1b3e","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":372,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:04:49.217Z","text":"那你干嘛不自己发动议，填表就是授权检方代理你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9ace9dc8ba833df1c11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb064210805ace52d1b3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9ace9dc8ba833df1c11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd8dd55a98d354743a9f9","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":373,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:05:22.190Z","text":"我几小时前才写完853n, 在看是用pro se还是邮寄过去","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb064210805ace52d1b3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8dd55a98d354743a9f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb064210805ace52d1b3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qa5cd2a7e2f694506e7b0","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":374,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:06:07.913Z","text":"我们重新整理一下：\n1 亮明身份：\n告知法庭我有hex投资 提供hid \n2 揭露盖尔：\n盖尔未经本人同意，非法以受害者身份来到郭文贵案件里要钱。顺便要求解除盖尔的代理。\n3 揭露联盟：\n告知法庭本人还有联盟农场投资，目前被联盟搞得资金去向不明。要求深挖调查。\n并且联盟集体在坑害七哥，伙同盖尔，引导和欺骗数千战友，非法变成文贵受害人。不仅频繁更换nfsc联盟管理逃避责任，还在用假见面，假电话，持续侵害战友的投资，tdccp币。\n3.1联盟已经被法庭确定为被告的共谋(388文件)，联盟伙同盖尔组织、引导欺诈战友到文贵案件要钱，大多数投资者不懂英文也不了解法律，其实并不知道自己被欺诈利用，实际上绝大多数投资者是为了去澄清郭文贵并未诈骗投资人才登记的。在我所在数千人的樱花农场，也根本找不到一个投资者认为郭文贵是诈骗。但法庭上却出现了数千他的受害者，这与现实实际情况严重不符。认为郭文贵是诈骗并且去作证的，全是潜伏在nfsc联盟的高层，这是一起集体陷害，法庭除了向我们更多的一般投资者了解情况外，几乎是发现不了端倪的，而这部分人中绝大多数，又是因为怕被迫害，不敢公开自己身份居住在中国境内的投资者，从而造成了法庭只能从潜伏者那里获得全部都是对文贵不利的证据的局面。\n。。。。。。大家继续补充大纲。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5cd2a7e2f694506e7b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qd6b6a45386a15597971e","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":375,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:07:01.602Z","text":"对照着已经传上去的认真检查检查，把自己想说的都尽量写进去，这是最后的机会了。我都改了几版了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8dd55a98d354743a9f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6b6a45386a15597971e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8dd55a98d354743a9f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qbfe371e9bd9b654b47f6","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":376,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:10:14.165Z","text":"后面联盟坑七哥这段在法官看来就是题外话，因为跟投资无关。要从联盟已经被确定为被告共谋，他们无权组织债权人喜交所等一系列索赔，你反对这些无效的索赔者来瓜分你的投资","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5cd2a7e2f694506e7b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfe371e9bd9b654b47f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5cd2a7e2f694506e7b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q3de8ff8a03a2db7ded09","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":377,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:12:20.861Z","text":"写动议始终要围绕着自己的投资说事，否则就会被法官以越权为由驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3de8ff8a03a2db7ded09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q28aafaa9eff508c95a1d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":378,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:13:49.468Z","text":"我刚刚又打电话给了forefeiture那里了这次她们也搞明白了, 首先pro se是可以用的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9aefba835d0e29457d43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28aafaa9eff508c95a1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aefba835d0e29457d43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q826d5c8dafc582ea5675","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":379,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:14:56.284Z","text":"ancillary petition 853n可以通过Pro se自诉上传文件，因为你是挑战法庭冻结资产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q826d5c8dafc582ea5675","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q5b304e4b4bc209b8c308","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":380,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:14:57.481Z","text":"你问的是政府吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28aafaa9eff508c95a1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b304e4b4bc209b8c308","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28aafaa9eff508c95a1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q74d764e657d9e1656e2b","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":381,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:15:04.601Z","text":"就是政府doj的冻结部门","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b304e4b4bc209b8c308","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d764e657d9e1656e2b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b304e4b4bc209b8c308","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qcb69528bc24c652d41eb","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":382,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:15:28.853Z","text":"我刚刚又打电话给了forefeiture那里了这次她们也搞明白了, 首先pro se是可以用的\nancillary petition 853n可以通过Pro se自诉上传文件，因为你是挑战法庭冻结资产。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb69528bc24c652d41eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qb5dc71286b7375d5f75c","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":383,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:16:15.019Z","text":"什么叫ancillary petition","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5dc71286b7375d5f75c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q94714cfb46e54b6eb9eb","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":384,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:16:46.945Z","text":"Pro se就是pro se跟请愿有关系吗？你问问ai","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94714cfb46e54b6eb9eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc8961fafa1040ffc2bed","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":385,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:18:12.914Z","text":"petition for remission or mitigation基本上就是不挑战法庭的冻结和判决, 严格来网站上的claim和petition都差不多的. 如果你汇款账户不在冻结资产的公告里，你又要file petition for remission那你就要邮寄过去.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8961fafa1040ffc2bed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qda4cf3ad1aeb43701e36","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":386,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T19:21:42.161Z","text":"你的目标就是要钱，对吧。这个我没研究过","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8961fafa1040ffc2bed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda4cf3ad1aeb43701e36","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8961fafa1040ffc2bed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q160f7cc5d6b9a57b68b9","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":387,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:22:54.246Z","text":"问题是petition for remission能要到钱吗？luc能留下钱给大家？怕不是都拿走了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda4cf3ad1aeb43701e36","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q160f7cc5d6b9a57b68b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda4cf3ad1aeb43701e36","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q3ccb0df0ddb8a16b36d2","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":388,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:27:02.946Z","text":"好的 再改","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3de8ff8a03a2db7ded09","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ccb0df0ddb8a16b36d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3de8ff8a03a2db7ded09","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q45094cb1f9454bdc47c2","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":389,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:28:05.146Z","text":"拐着弯 联系上去呢。想要争取多揭露","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3de8ff8a03a2db7ded09","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45094cb1f9454bdc47c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3de8ff8a03a2db7ded09","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qc7b78ad4d3acfa639210","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":390,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:29:12.231Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 今天先改到这，明天继续修改。\n我们重新整理一下：\n1 亮明身份：\n告知法庭我有hex投资 提供hid \n2 揭露盖尔：\n盖尔未经本人同意，非法以受害者身份来到郭文贵案件里要钱。顺便要求解除盖尔的代理。\n3 揭露联盟：\n告知法庭本人还有联盟农场投资，目前被联盟搞得资金去向不明。要求深挖调查。\n并且联盟集体在坑害七哥，伙同盖尔，引导和欺骗数千战友，非法变成文贵受害人。不仅频繁更换nfsc联盟管理逃避责任，还在用假见面，假电话，持续侵害战友的投资，tdccp币。\n3.1联盟已经被法庭确定为被告的共谋(388文件)，联盟伙同盖尔组织、引导欺诈战友到文贵案件要钱，大多数投资者不懂英文也不了解法律，其实并不知道自己被欺诈利用，实际上绝大多数投资者是为了去澄清郭文贵并未诈骗投资人才登记的。在我所在数千人的樱花农场，也根本找不到一个投资者认为郭文贵是诈骗。但法庭上却出现了数千他的受害者，这与现实实际情况严重不符。认为郭文贵是诈骗并且去作证的，全是潜伏在nfsc联盟的高层，这是一起集体陷害，法庭除了向我们更多的一般投资者了解情况外，几乎是发现不了端倪的，而这部分人中绝大多数，又是因为怕被迫害，不敢公开自己身份居住在中国境内的投资者，从而造成了法庭只能从潜伏者那里获得全部都是对文贵不利的证据的局面。\n。。。。。。大家继续补充大纲。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7b78ad4d3acfa639210","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q70bb783bef1e20e29779","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":391,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:29:32.247Z","text":"正确, 我们要反对这些无效的索赔者, 你扯联盟只会被法官认为是和你没关系的事，我们作为interest group受害者，法官认为我们唯一有关系的就是和财产有关的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfe371e9bd9b654b47f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70bb783bef1e20e29779","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfe371e9bd9b654b47f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q9c20b2977df23765579d","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":392,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:32:50.166Z","text":"你是按照504, 515 516那种方式写的，还是518和679那种？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6b6a45386a15597971e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c20b2977df23765579d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6b6a45386a15597971e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1b9b63d64b4c5ba1cb72","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":393,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:32:58.206Z","text":"我觉得必须扯上联盟。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70bb783bef1e20e29779","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b9b63d64b4c5ba1cb72","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70bb783bef1e20e29779","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q6289aa0328d4d4d587a2","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":394,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:34:00.240Z","text":"联盟管理，义工，都成了rico同案犯？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6289aa0328d4d4d587a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q8d7bda12784361745bf8","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":395,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-08-28T19:35:18.325Z","text":"你扯这些法庭只会认为是阴谋轮，联盟管理，义工这些在法官眼里就是共犯.","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8bfbf9fcfbd521bfcad","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7bda12784361745bf8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q1b54f751d4d9c944fe98","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":396,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:38:43.270Z","text":"法庭认为联盟他们是共犯。\n但实际他们是主犯还差不多。\n法庭只从潜伏的高层那里获得了集体造假坑文贵的信息。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d7bda12784361745bf8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b54f751d4d9c944fe98","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7bda12784361745bf8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q78671e3d2c7b0cc18c2c","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":397,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-28T19:39:42.057Z","text":"得想个法子让法庭了解真实情况。看怎么能挂上钩提交不被否了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d7bda12784361745bf8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78671e3d2c7b0cc18c2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7bda12784361745bf8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qe931351ef3a9c7a3b337","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":398,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T20:22:24.252Z","text":"你也可以发给检方,作为布雷迪证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5cd2a7e2f694506e7b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe931351ef3a9c7a3b337","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5cd2a7e2f694506e7b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"q64ac5da2b8ecd81b5ada","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":399,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-08-28T20:23:06.606Z","text":"所以啊，不把luc盖尔赶走，轮不到你拿钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q160f7cc5d6b9a57b68b9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64ac5da2b8ecd81b5ada","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q160f7cc5d6b9a57b68b9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"},{"id":"qea03e8fd561384601314","batch_id":"batch-000030","seq":400,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-28T20:24:10.432Z","text":"联盟农场共谋犯不能组织要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78671e3d2c7b0cc18c2c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea03e8fd561384601314","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78671e3d2c7b0cc18c2c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000030"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000029","next_batch_id":"batch-000031"}