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zha***］ 是不是啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q297794b84a5b633f9860","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qca36a69afae84a8d4a95","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":808,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-02T12:43:08.881Z","text":"你是不是去claim啦？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca36a69afae84a8d4a95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q8e632b359523df26e79e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":809,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-02T12:44:30.404Z","text":"你就是去claim，你也拿不回你的钱🤣 还被诈骗联盟戏耍，侮辱，成为七哥的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e632b359523df26e79e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qc19af06c12ab605b206f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":810,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-02T12:44:53.259Z","text":"gtv的钱到现在都没退完呢，哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc19af06c12ab605b206f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0ff39b7d97db24e87ca4","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":811,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-02T12:47:29.666Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1962859833893286070","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ff39b7d97db24e87ca4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q629fa605d08dc071f859","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":812,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-02T12:49:03.872Z","text":"什么petion claim ，选哪个都不行。都是坑。\n得上庭自诉才行吧。\n［用户 chu***］  ［用户 rui***］  ［用户 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如果下周一还不上传 那就别怪我心狠手辣！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd45b8f90a192cfd559f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0297d378798eb0d2b595","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":840,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T15:09:14.590Z","text":"下周一开始 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截止日期什么时候","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93f97b54a59eea12d540","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q148179126d8376c7edea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93f97b54a59eea12d540","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qe2d0afcd10279991d8c7","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":849,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-02T16:28:30.045Z","text":"得把九只妖这边解决了 先 才能过来弄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2d0afcd10279991d8c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q00a078cb610808ce47d3","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":850,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T16:29:07.675Z","text":"反对没收，是反对政府没收，不是一定是要把钱拿回来，也可以是让法庭把你的钱排除在没收范围之外","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdedceeb238f5c267f621","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00a078cb610808ce47d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdedceeb238f5c267f621","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q74b14daf16a253073cd2","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":851,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-02T16:34:18.454Z","text":"我有个问题 郭是躺平了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74b14daf16a253073cd2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qe31302fa91fbfcc449bf","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":852,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-02T16:35:05.450Z","text":"就是这个意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00a078cb610808ce47d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe31302fa91fbfcc449bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00a078cb610808ce47d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q504bde6777d297ac1fbe","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":853,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T16:40:19.946Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1962918209792705005?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q504bde6777d297ac1fbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa55158c4e97153e788f5","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":854,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T16:48:35.301Z","text":"8月23开始的吧，同时搞呗，你现在的案件卷宗是不是也可以直接引用。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2d0afcd10279991d8c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa55158c4e97153e788f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2d0afcd10279991d8c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qd7f0b6d7dcf7b0b0073e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":855,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T17:36:33.317Z","text":"他现在的处境不躺平该怎么办？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74b14daf16a253073cd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7f0b6d7dcf7b0b0073e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74b14daf16a253073cd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa3c0d7f7aef63d73d97b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":856,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T17:36:45.298Z","text":"律师也不干活 他手上一堆王炸也打不出去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3c0d7f7aef63d73d97b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q809a091f921354feceed","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":857,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-02T17:37:07.057Z","text":"这边法院 搞什么都要先交钱。🥲 老子没钱了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa55158c4e97153e788f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q809a091f921354feceed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa55158c4e97153e788f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qe08759f2a4fb468e52c8","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":858,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T17:38:17.590Z","text":"https://x.com/peace86774949/status/1962693221538206124?s=46 ［用户 xin***］  哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe08759f2a4fb468e52c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q132bcffd02cdfe53ca95","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":859,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T17:42:22.262Z","text":"［用户 rim***］  你看 人家都不承认！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q132bcffd02cdfe53ca95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q8aab91527f6c3f235538","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":860,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T17:42:38.998Z","text":"历史上有屋顶上的韩国人，咱们马上就要成为法庭上的中国人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4bffb66e9eaff5586bec","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aab91527f6c3f235538","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q7223f7615e58869c7022","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":861,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T17:42:48.884Z","text":"100%","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8aab91527f6c3f235538","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7223f7615e58869c7022","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aab91527f6c3f235538","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0d69a9df2380c0673516","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":862,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-02T17:46:44.523Z","text":"黄大便怎么知道的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d69a9df2380c0673516","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q33a7897bf121433e5a7b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":863,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T17:48:22.789Z","text":"找谁申请？巡回法庭吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02378b5e8ab70885da2c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33a7897bf121433e5a7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02378b5e8ab70885da2c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q2b3924920cd2a09a8075","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":864,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-02T17:48:59.808Z","text":"继续看戏吧 今年出不来 大概率坐穿了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b3924920cd2a09a8075","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qdcc3589b84be37a89183","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":865,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-02T17:56:15.674Z","text":"可能是先找托雷斯，你查一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q33a7897bf121433e5a7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc3589b84be37a89183","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33a7897bf121433e5a7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qaa7bf8b90cc1709d986b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":866,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-02T17:56:33.640Z","text":"但是想要推翻法庭命令， 你要证明1.律师不作为，2.检方不作为，3.法庭不上传cvra, 853n动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa7bf8b90cc1709d986b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q39f2f564fe57f0b74698","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":867,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T18:16:02.562Z","text":"这三个的证据咱都有呀","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa7bf8b90cc1709d986b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39f2f564fe57f0b74698","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa7bf8b90cc1709d986b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qb6414ac7af065d47bf8a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":868,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-02T18:47:36.584Z","text":"这个中文版，挺得体。\n想打板子也下不去手啊。\n还要写个什么背景是必须的格式吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a76fb94780e652e6c44","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6414ac7af065d47bf8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa41bb5e564e9459c64c2","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":869,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-02T18:50:19.232Z","text":"这些坑我时刻都得艾特你们看看，\n不然战友们都得被带偏，又被骗去做了郭文贵的受害人。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bb3e72d61720f02a0cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa41bb5e564e9459c64c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bb3e72d61720f02a0cd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q6ee2e1a7863454d11dcf","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":870,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T18:52:24.947Z","text":"青藤说的是不是政府那个登记表格？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ee2e1a7863454d11dcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q47aaceda6924d65bfcb1","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":871,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-02T18:52:49.159Z","text":"挖藕。这听起来就像是历史性的时刻。\n赶紧加入吧，写邮件到法庭。\n有哪位写漏掉了或者还想补充的，我加进去。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8aab91527f6c3f235538","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47aaceda6924d65bfcb1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aab91527f6c3f235538","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qf79a23393bfa3abfeee1","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":872,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-02T18:54:16.067Z","text":"他说无论怎么做都不会对七哥案子有影响的那句话是吗？\n事实上无论选petion 和选claim都有影响 对吗？都是成为郭文贵的受害人。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ee2e1a7863454d11dcf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf79a23393bfa3abfeee1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ee2e1a7863454d11dcf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q91049ef789b66e01783b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":873,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T18:54:44.220Z","text":"第三方用crva介入 是claim吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf79a23393bfa3abfeee1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91049ef789b66e01783b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf79a23393bfa3abfeee1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qdd17295c7afa946b7f6d","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":874,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-02T19:11:25.932Z","text":"是，但是cvra除了claim以外，还包含很多其他东西","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91049ef789b66e01783b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd17295c7afa946b7f6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91049ef789b66e01783b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q007c281521c5487eb8b5","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":875,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T20:21:14.504Z","text":"佳佳问的问题是政府通知下来该不该提交申请，青藤说自己做决定，100%对案子没影响","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ee2e1a7863454d11dcf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q007c281521c5487eb8b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ee2e1a7863454d11dcf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qcacc2d20c5b6c328f7cd","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":876,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T20:34:35.533Z","text":"后半截佳佳又引到受害人上去了，说七哥律师之前开会说受害人是美国政府必须给的一个称呼。还说郭现在还被称为罪犯呢，意思好像是不要在意名称好不好听。青藤说他在王艳萍庭上法官问他是不是受害人，他说他不是，然后法官就说不是受害人就不能发言，然后青藤说真的是这样吗？那意思就是法官说不是就不是了？他还说任何人都清楚我们是不是受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcacc2d20c5b6c328f7cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q3f2717b3da522b03a444","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":877,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-02T20:35:42.926Z","text":"这段再回看信息量挺大，青藤自己说的，我跟政府联系的时候，政府说你是受害人，你可以在法庭说话。这不是自己承认联系检方了吗？一个共谋犯联系检方想干嘛？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f2717b3da522b03a444","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q16150ef3cb70ef6192a2","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":878,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-02T21:15:13.038Z","text":"他为什么要联系检方，他不是受害人，联系辩方去做支持者陈述，不就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16150ef3cb70ef6192a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa36740960856d4d0a9e3","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":879,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T21:33:59.666Z","text":"他和盖尔的打法一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa36740960856d4d0a9e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qf8a2e33eeb504548ef08","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":880,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-02T21:34:11.272Z","text":"盖尔就是说着不是受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8a2e33eeb504548ef08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0817eea9d9a4ffb7c9fd","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":881,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-02T22:22:12.047Z","text":"小羊这个[屏蔽词]在直播，瞎扯犊子，不关心老郭案件了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0817eea9d9a4ffb7c9fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q3f5410e1208824b0a9dd","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":882,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-02T22:30:54.491Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1963006676900119023?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f5410e1208824b0a9dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q45d77bd395445cc52fd9","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":883,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-02T23:40:09.317Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1963024063171068232?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45d77bd395445cc52fd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q3a66989e3bd1e074aade","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":884,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-03T01:26:39.328Z","text":"https://x.com/l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公主会出来吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd99277a3feca56914c45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q2247baa70a976715967c","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":886,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-03T01:27:40.111Z","text":"卧槽 尿袋 出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2247baa70a976715967c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q247831ae293fd7275819","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":887,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-03T01:28:08.152Z","text":"都是因为老郭 在牢里。他们才敢出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q247831ae293fd7275819","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q13f1bcb1014d962dffa7","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":888,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T02:42:15.343Z","text":"https://x.com/panshirock6/status/1962848911640728023?s=46 破产案 还联系着瑞士ubs ［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13f1bcb1014d962dffa7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0bb487edb837374ab95e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":889,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:36:16.866Z","text":"文件718-1，是换律师的听证会记录。和联盟之前发出来的换律师听证会有区别啊？是不是检方的718-1内容更多啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bb487edb837374ab95e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qca9f9029f3981716d9d0","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":890,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:37:45.131Z","text":"你说的是nfsc那个网站？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bb487edb837374ab95e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca9f9029f3981716d9d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bb487edb837374ab95e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qc84e3c46a88f4764ee2a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":891,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:39:45.136Z","text":"是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc84e3c46a88f4764ee2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q6343c36ea85fc34ce92a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":892,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:40:13.511Z","text":"我刚下载了718-1，看着是换律师听证会记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6343c36ea85fc34ce92a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q68eef3678b66b0b0937b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":893,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:41:44.764Z","text":"之前不是文件700就有吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68eef3678b66b0b0937b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q62edb53338cdaf131c67","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":894,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:41:48.758Z","text":"这个不一样？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62edb53338cdaf131c67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qefe2b74ce8dfb813de3d","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":895,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:43:12.906Z","text":"你去看看。可能内容多一些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62edb53338cdaf131c67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefe2b74ce8dfb813de3d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62edb53338cdaf131c67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q4221c80bbc13c574e826","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":896,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:44:53.246Z","text":"不是文件700的内容，是换律师，三个新律师到场，法官说自诉骚扰法庭那一天的记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4221c80bbc13c574e826","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q11c535561d64b84b64f1","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":897,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:45:28.503Z","text":"我觉得可能里面有惊喜","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11c535561d64b84b64f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qedec426e808c0e3ed78b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":898,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:48:09.555Z","text":"没有任何变化，就是4月8号的记录。检方为什么重新上传一遍，什么目的啊？难道是催促法庭下没收令啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedec426e808c0e3ed78b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q007969f44f36bce083a1","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":899,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:52:12.234Z","text":"法官说：请就座。\n在我们处理替换律师的问题之前，我想先谈一谈法庭最近收到的一些非当事人以无律师\n代理身份提交的文件和通信。\n在4月3日的命令中，法庭说明了非案件当事人在某些有限情况下可以在案件档案中提交\n文件。其一是在有正当理由相信自己可以依据《美国法典》第21卷第853(n)节对没收财产提出权益\n申诉的情况下。\n另一种情况是自认为是被告犯罪行为受害者的人根据《犯罪受害者权利法》提出动议。\n近几周来，法庭受到了大量不当的电子提交文件的轰炸。有些文件中甚至包含了可能被视\n为对检方、法庭或被害人具有威胁性或骚扰性的语言。还有一些人则在提交中表达了对案件的种\n种不满。这些不当的提交都是由与刑事诉讼无关的人所为，构成了对公众接触权的滥用。在我4\n月3日的命令中，我列举了这些不当提交的例子，并指出违反法庭规则进行此类提交的人可能会\n被限制其访问权。我还解释说，过去几个月中，法官办公室收到了来自世界各地的大量关于此案\n的电子邮件。这些邮件同样是不当的，是被禁止的。除了本案的律师和法庭工作人员外，任何人都\n不得联系或发送邮件到法官办公室。\n因此，我要向今天在场和听审的每一个人明确声明：本案的档案不是一个供任何人表达个\n人观点的公共论坛。法官办公室的电子邮箱也不是。任何对法庭、检方或被害人进行骚扰的行为\n，我都绝不容忍。\n若有人滥用公众访问权，进行威胁、恐吓或骚扰，我可能会报警处理。我希望我讲得很清\n楚。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q007969f44f36bce083a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q5571bac40d0aa8ba769d","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":900,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:53:21.145Z","text":"我接受托雷斯大人的挑战。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q007969f44f36bce083a1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5571bac40d0aa8ba769d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q007969f44f36bce083a1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q5f707ff650e1a0103d3f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":901,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-03T04:54:44.053Z","text":"谁骚扰，你就发书面命令。不能鸡贼的不上传。你先上传，管它什么内容，就说骚扰了法庭，驳回，然后下法庭令让检方抓人，不在美国的发全球通缉令。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f707ff650e1a0103d3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q2b2b2c30837b7c19801d","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":902,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:57:56.347Z","text":"螺丝哥 没事 都不重要了 这周日之前 是咱们翻案组冲塔送经验的截止日期。 接下去，咱们就不玩一样的游戏了。接下去我们玩的是奇门遁甲，把整个法庭绕起来，构成一个奇门局。整个法庭都将是我们的阵法。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b2b2c30837b7c19801d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q287346214671adcc78fc","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":903,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T04:57:57.114Z","text":"美国时间上班后，你们可以再打电话问问，到底什么时候允许第三方介入，我之前的文件为什么阻拦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q287346214671adcc78fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qfc0cc333191e48869932","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":904,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:58:22.777Z","text":"这周日后 游戏规则 是我们说了算了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc0cc333191e48869932","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qfe61c9359203101ae549","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":905,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T04:58:37.102Z","text":"所有人都要跟着我们的指令跳舞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe61c9359203101ae549","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q6122fe0df16677d96b81","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":906,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T05:03:49.091Z","text":"检方718是说为什么反对老郭延期量刑，其中一个理由是4月份老郭新律师上岗的时候就已经说过他们会处理好，所以检方把4月换律师的笔录作为718附件，说新律师当时是怎么说的，见笔录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6122fe0df16677d96b81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0c29a51afa87fbc013d7","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":907,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T05:04:28.109Z","text":"检方没把螺丝哥当回事，不是针对螺丝哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c29a51afa87fbc013d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q312722fdf368667c72ce","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":908,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T05:04:40.604Z","text":"我是觉得 对于这些细枝末节 你了解的比谁都清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6122fe0df16677d96b81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q312722fdf368667c72ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6122fe0df16677d96b81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q961b9a8d3f14a04ad74a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":909,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T05:04:58.177Z","text":"法官说：可以接受。各方还有其他事项需要提出吗？\n芬克律师说：有两件事，法官大人。\n首先，政府非常理解法官大人今天提到的“被信息轰炸”的情况，我们办公室也同样面临类\n似状况。截至目前，我们收到超过一百份案件档案中的提交文件，涉及没收请求以及基于被告犯\n罪行为的赔偿要求。办公室门外还堆放着大约七箱——准确说是七个银行文件箱——的被害人提\n交材料，内容类似。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q961b9a8d3f14a04ad74a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q8d638f1785da001eb8cd","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":910,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T05:12:14.200Z","text":"下周日之后 法庭由我们说了算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d638f1785da001eb8cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qda1e8bef05c94be86756","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":911,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-03T06:13:08.687Z","text":"纸质的邮件必须快递吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda1e8bef05c94be86756","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q7c68e074f47d76884d0a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":912,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-03T06:41:27.879Z","text":"以下是我把这两天的聊天内容关于写自叙信的部分放在一起，其中主要是[删节：成员身份] 的短信。多谢 ［用户 him***］ \n\n👆 只要你给农场汇款，都可以去没收财产哪儿要钱，但是你这种情况必须自诉，就和vash一样。没收的钱最后肯定是不够的，还有luc虎视眈眈的要抢钱，最后钱肯定不够分。好在现在大部分要钱的人 都是不合法的，你如果能打掉他们(luc,盖尔等），就能拿到钱了。\n\n你不是说，农场汇款不知道是不是在没收财产里面这种，你只能自诉吗？因为表格上没有这些钱。\n\n但是自诉主要是反对虚假索赔\n\n就是联盟农场搞得那些乱七八糟的索赔\n\n不管怎么说，只要你不是填表，都属于自诉\n自诉的内容可以是要钱，也可以是反对虚假索赔\n\n自诉不仅是要钱，还可以反对虚假索赔\n\nclaim是受害者赔偿\n\n但是味蕾（Percy）和联盟都故意混淆petition和claim\n\n853n petition对郭案的负面影响，不如受害者claim大\n\n853n本身是反对没收，不等于你是受害者\n\n最后第三方可以申请推翻法官528的法庭命令，让第三方以非cvra或853n身份介入\n\n但这个你要想赢，你要证明1.律师不作为，2.检方不作为，3.法庭不上传cvra, 853n动议\n\n你可以申请推翻法官命令\n因为第三方利益得不到保护\n\n现在法官把第三方限制到853n和cvra的框架里\n如果你这些都走不通，那你只能申请推翻法庭命令\n\n但是想要推翻法庭命令， 你要证明1.律师不作为，2.检方不作为，3.法庭不上传cvra, 853n动议\n\nTest:\n后半截佳佳又引到受害人上去了，说七哥律师之前开会说受害人是美国政府必须给的一个称呼。还说郭现在还被称为罪犯呢，意思好像是不要在意名称好不好听。青藤说他在王艳萍庭上法官问他是不是受害人，他说他不是，然后法官就说不是受害人就不能发言，然后青藤说真的是这样吗？那意思就是法官说不是就不是了？他还说任何人都清楚我们是不是受害人\n这段再回看信息量挺大，青藤自己说的，我跟政府联系的时候，政府说你是受害人，你可以在法庭说话。这不是自己承认联系检方了吗？一个共谋犯联系检方想干嘛？\n\n Chunk: 679 文件，以受害者的身份介入自述，对检方提出种种质疑：为什么这么长时间不去调查合谋团体联盟组织6 千名喜交所用户登记？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c68e074f47d76884d0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q562cb4d10f0ed959868e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":913,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-03T06:58:02.847Z","text":"联盟及魔女这些坏东西好像都在反对大家以受害者的身份介入，看来螺丝哥的想法是对的。不请象盖尔这样的狗律师，而是以个人身份作为受害者写自诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe08759f2a4fb468e52c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q562cb4d10f0ed959868e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe08759f2a4fb468e52c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q760e8cd90418a66ae0d9","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":914,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-03T07:02:57.394Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 的这个贴子两天之内看的人很多呀，过5千。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q760e8cd90418a66ae0d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q1362d690c2304d5a1e0e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":915,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T07:17:15.578Z","text":"这是最高阶的打法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q562cb4d10f0ed959868e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1362d690c2304d5a1e0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q562cb4d10f0ed959868e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qe5be831f414d830d7e48","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":916,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T07:18:32.816Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ 你上的话 可以先引用受害者法案 然后传我的报告 就说你作为受害者 发现这篇报告有理有据的论述了检方为了坑害受害人利益而欺诈法庭 让luc的非法债权人得益","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5be831f414d830d7e48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q6a284d0a12f1e08641ec","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":917,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-03T07:19:44.894Z","text":"哦。\n但是也必须是60天以内吧？时间也很紧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5be831f414d830d7e48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a284d0a12f1e08641ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5be831f414d830d7e48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qcd0df8380897a094e912","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":918,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T07:20:03.039Z","text":"对我来说 60天时间很长了 哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a284d0a12f1e08641ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd0df8380897a094e912","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a284d0a12f1e08641ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qc6041a42f26629c3e533","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":919,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T07:22:06.972Z","text":"我给检方 法官 准备了满汉全席","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6041a42f26629c3e533","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q5daa66f095681c7c5925","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":920,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T07:22:14.311Z","text":"希望他们吃的开心愉快","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5daa66f095681c7c5925","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qeffb42fbb3278e14910f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":921,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-03T07:22:19.942Z","text":"俺就喜欢舔你的臭脚，气死那天蛆。它就想炸你把报告送给它看。俺己经看到了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeffb42fbb3278e14910f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qf44ecd868560ef5e8732","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":922,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T07:22:49.680Z","text":"那个魔女老蛆天天吵着要看报告 就不给他看 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeffb42fbb3278e14910f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf44ecd868560ef5e8732","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeffb42fbb3278e14910f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q26c7946fe154bc49af0e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":923,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-03T07:23:32.593Z","text":"拿一百万美金来换都不给。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26c7946fe154bc49af0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qcd0047504e719152314f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":924,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T08:01:30.410Z","text":"https://x.com/peace86774949/status/1963092808610546042?s=46 \n［用户 rim***］  用你的钱潇洒就是爽","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd0047504e719152314f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0969001a5225e0bdd38f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":925,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T08:10:25.286Z","text":"谁知道哪里能弄到喜交所的白皮书，求白皮书🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0969001a5225e0bdd38f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q9cbac1ffdf2a89e3771a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":926,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-03T08:20:55.498Z","text":"网站都关了，上哪去找","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0969001a5225e0bdd38f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cbac1ffdf2a89e3771a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0969001a5225e0bdd38f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q296aa90d552c47d4a761","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":927,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-03T08:21:36.607Z","text":"［用户 rim***］ 人家用你的钱找鸭子去了 你家产被骗光在家里每天都睡不着","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q296aa90d552c47d4a761","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q4b9c3ee74c633adfd4bf","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":928,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-03T08:42:32.683Z","text":"九只妖 这边。只要出钱 就可以上传😂 要不都过来打？ 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfef1bb3b0f88f77225b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b9c3ee74c633adfd4bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q54b78a46569026e68e51","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":929,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T08:42:57.581Z","text":"没人有备份吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9cbac1ffdf2a89e3771a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54b78a46569026e68e51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cbac1ffdf2a89e3771a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qf97e027542908fc9b734","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":930,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-03T08:43:21.515Z","text":"把战场拉过来。跟我们一起混😂  掏钱就行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf97e027542908fc9b734","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qbed853903ef6ad207d14","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":931,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-03T08:47:08.955Z","text":"[屏蔽词]。我们都是拿钱 真刀真枪在干。你们免费的都没人干","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbed853903ef6ad207d14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q2c8f8ae6f3f8b72cfd6b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":932,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T08:52:34.333Z","text":"我只对老郭感兴趣，对魏丽红没有任何兴趣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b9c3ee74c633adfd4bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c8f8ae6f3f8b72cfd6b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b9c3ee74c633adfd4bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q647aede9263d12385b7b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":933,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-03T09:01:55.619Z","text":"去联盟群里问问","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54b78a46569026e68e51","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q647aede9263d12385b7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54b78a46569026e68e51","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa11c7457109ab0a339bf","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":934,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:10:44.131Z","text":"谁知道喜交所HDO对应的美元有被挪用吗？检方的215文件里说HDO和美元1:1的挂钩并不是真实的，检方有相关证据吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa11c7457109ab0a339bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q0ca59c75fb1bfc6a8b26","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":935,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:12:26.058Z","text":"检方有提供相关证据吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ca59c75fb1bfc6a8b26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qfed2fd3de25b6ffefb3f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":936,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:14:17.543Z","text":"这是我原本的设想，但是检方说喜联储挪用了HDO对应的美元储备，这个不知道证据在哪？\n1. 请愿人身份\n我是 Himalaya Coin（HCN）和 Himalaya Dollar（HDO）的投资人。我以善意投入资金购买了这些数字资产，并不知晓任何涉嫌违法行为。\n2. 法律权益性质\n根据 21 U.S.C. § 853(n)(6)(A) 和 (B)：\n我的权益在犯罪行为发生之前已经存在；或\n我是付出对价的善意购买人，无理由相信该财产应被没收。\n3. HDO–美元挂钩及投资人预期\n正如政府在本案文件（ECF No. 215, 2024年1月3日）中所承认的，HDO 被公开宣传为 与美元 1:1 挂钩，并且完全有相应美元储备支持。投资人被引导相信：\n每一枚 HDO 都可以兑换一美元；\n储备资金被独立保管，用于保障投资人权益。\n4. HCN/HDO 的市场逻辑\nHCN 与 HDO 在交易市场中是一对交易资产。HDO 的美元储备是 HCN 的唯一流动性基础。\n一旦美元储备被抽走，HCN/HDO 的交易对无法运行，HCN 立即失去流动性。\n因此，没收 HDO 储备并不是剥夺被告的财产，而是摧毁了投资人维持其持有资产价值的唯一机制。\n5. SafeMoon 案的说服性先例\n我理解其他地区法院的判决对本院没有约束力，但可作为说服性权威。纽约东区法院在 United States v. Braden John Karony, No. 24-cr-205 (E.D.N.Y. 2025)（SafeMoon 案）中认定：内部人员抽走流动性池资金构成欺诈，直接导致投资人受害。\n虽然该案对本院不具约束力，但它说明了一个原则：抽走流动性会摧毁代币价值并造成投资人损失。该原则与本请愿书所涉问题直接相关。\n6. 请求的救济\n我恳请法院：\n确认 HDO 对应的美元储备属于第三方投资人，包括本人；\n根据 21 U.S.C. § 853(n)，将这些储备资金排除在没收令之外；","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfed2fd3de25b6ffefb3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q3b6a61c5b56ccf2115c5","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":937,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:15:10.078Z","text":"我看下来检方是直接指控喜联储就是诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b6a61c5b56ccf2115c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q212dd8eb4519e55a14a2","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":938,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-03T09:18:25.133Z","text":"检方的共谋诈骗对g系列法人和联盟农场的负责人是成立的，唯独对被告不成立。因为这些资产不属于被告，只是被破产法庭未经正当程序判定为属于被告。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q212dd8eb4519e55a14a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q6cef50862cd58860a030","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":939,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:18:50.358Z","text":"我不清楚检方说的HDO和美元1:1挂钩的虚假宣传是基于什么证据来说的，如果HDO和美元确实不是1:1的，那就要找别的办法了。如果确实是1:1那检方的陈述直接就是打脸了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cef50862cd58860a030","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q911d15e14f7136e551b0","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":940,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:21:28.086Z","text":"现在第三方介入，你这么聊人家法官都不会理你。介入方式只有CVRA和853(n)。除非你能证明资产和郭先生无关。那么必须得有人来认这个资产，不是我们就是喜联储。但是喜联储是一起被检方告进去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q212dd8eb4519e55a14a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q911d15e14f7136e551b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q212dd8eb4519e55a14a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qecf99a6f36eaf4f5b81d","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":941,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:22:37.892Z","text":"我们要认领的方式就是官方宣传的1:1，这就是所有权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecf99a6f36eaf4f5b81d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa57cf858237493c0f2f2","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":942,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:23:51.645Z","text":"如果喜联储动过这个HDO储备，那么就很难还原了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa57cf858237493c0f2f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q770488af5451e509291e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":943,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-03T09:24:48.661Z","text":"那些钱是你的，未经正当程序被判定成被告的，然后用虚假债权和虚假索赔来要钱，这性质接近于用司法进行系统性抢劫。它法官必须回应。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q911d15e14f7136e551b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q770488af5451e509291e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q911d15e14f7136e551b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qf81a2ec884ef82ee4b81","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":944,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-03T09:25:27.010Z","text":"853也好，受害者也好，只是您介入的法律资格身份。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf81a2ec884ef82ee4b81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa9720cd7cd0452438fd6","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":945,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-03T09:26:20.642Z","text":"破产法庭的枉法资产判定，是本案的诈骗叙事基础。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9720cd7cd0452438fd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q446fef1cda10e1313516","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":946,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:27:31.167Z","text":"你得证明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q446fef1cda10e1313516","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q300e87159889eed04d12","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":947,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:28:31.078Z","text":"大家当然知道，整个是一个美国司法的迫害，关键是找出一个点击破","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3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喜联储 诈骗了，而且陪审团也认为是诈骗，现在已经进入没收程序了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60e8aea76e557b77c0a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa8c273de60fe72b9caef","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":953,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:32:26.474Z","text":"你还要检方证明什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8c273de60fe72b9caef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qe9815aa190c693a9f172","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":954,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T09:32:28.532Z","text":"嘿嘿，你猜白皮书怎么写的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b40f2bf893fe915056e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9815aa190c693a9f172","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b40f2bf893fe915056e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q8978098a0b09477971f4","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":955,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-03T09:32:38.580Z","text":"因为你检方要没收我的钱，我说你不能没收，你用破产法庭的法庭令，我说那没有经过正当程序，没有通知我也没有让被告发言。你检方去证明破产法庭通知了，去证明破产法庭让被告发言了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8978098a0b09477971f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qb5fb0f0df92489a92669","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":956,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T09:32:45.660Z","text":"白皮书写的是，你买HDO的时候要用美元1:1","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5fb0f0df92489a92669","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qac07ff122c4356928475","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":957,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T09:33:01.246Z","text":"白皮书没写，喜交所的储备是美元1:1","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac07ff122c4356928475","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qa140bef86936a9e048b9","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":958,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T09:34:52.280Z","text":"“提请潜在会员注意，会员不得在喜马拉雅生态系统内持有加密资产或法定货币，喜马拉雅生态系统亦不提供任何形式的托管服务，也没有喜马拉雅交易所或生态系统内任何实体持有提供此类服务所需的许可或授权。喜马拉雅交易所拟以其自身名义并为自身账户持有加密资产，并可在会员提出请求时使用该等资产完成会员积分兑换为相应加密资产的交易。HDO发行人拟维持一部分美元或其他货币的储备，以现金及现金等价物（如政府证券）的形式存在，用于在会员提出兑换请求并获得喜马拉雅交易所批准的情况下，将会员的HDO积分兑换为美元。会员对HDO发行人不享有任何直接或间接的索赔权。\n”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa140bef86936a9e048b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qae098dd83029da1df3bb","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":959,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:35:09.647Z","text":"我当然知道咯，里面有自由裁量权，问题是喜联储有没有遵循1:1的储备","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9815aa190c693a9f172","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae098dd83029da1df3bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9815aa190c693a9f172","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qd1621d3e21b2202bff12","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":960,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T09:35:27.236Z","text":"从未承诺1:1储备","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae098dd83029da1df3bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1621d3e21b2202bff12","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae098dd83029da1df3bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qd18905b813e82ee12db3","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":961,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T09:35:45.527Z","text":"没有承诺，谈何遵循？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd18905b813e82ee12db3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q864cdc3b48095b8204e3","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":962,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:36:07.819Z","text":"你把白皮书给我一份，你有白皮书是吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q864cdc3b48095b8204e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qeac50c2abf974386eea4","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":963,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:42:41.682Z","text":"你要介入只有CVRA和853(n)，按照你的说法只能通过CVRA介入","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeac50c2abf974386eea4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qfb66297d45f796c2a575","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":964,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T09:44:21.026Z","text":"853(n)介入，你只有从财产所有权上来证明，而财产所有权不是很清楚吗，这些财产都不是郭先生的\n但是这些财产只有当事人能去认领啊，不是当事人人家法官会尿你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb66297d45f796c2a575","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q1a2a3412b627b986681f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":965,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-03T10:12:27.816Z","text":"我问个问题，没收的钱的事破产法庭没收的，还是通过118案件没收的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a2a3412b627b986681f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q86066e2a12e2ba9ddee9","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":966,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-03T10:48:05.851Z","text":"https://www.hcner.com/hcn#喜币白皮书hcn-whitepaper","edited":false,"reply_to":"q864cdc3b48095b8204e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86066e2a12e2ba9ddee9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q864cdc3b48095b8204e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q6e5aa317cbc55591a03b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":967,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-03T11:51:14.964Z","text":"没收是刑事法庭\n\n破产法庭没有资格没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a2a3412b627b986681f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e5aa317cbc55591a03b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a2a3412b627b986681f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qe820b622bf8baf38551a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":968,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-03T13:19:29.736Z","text":"［用户 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你们这些蛆虫、杂碎、死全家的[屏蔽词]，和诈骗犯青藤一个路数，一边和检方联系让自己变成受害人，一边用你们喷粪的皮燕子说自己不是七哥的受害人，鬼话连篇，说着战友爱听的话，干着害七哥的勾当。🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc20184b0370f8c0730a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qb5e5bdf0fd978d433529","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":970,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:27:11.459Z","text":"说白了，你现在明知道郭诈骗本身是事实，或者说至少不在乎这人到底是不是在诈骗你，就是想寻找漏洞把郭弄出来，对吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72f846385544a781cf17","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5e5bdf0fd978d433529","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q9956af4781abcb948857","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":971,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-03T13:28:12.612Z","text":"说来说去，瑞恩小逼[屏蔽词]就是要以受害人的身份干坏事，和诈骗犯青藤一个路数，以检方受害人的身份出庭发言，一边说鬼话一边强化自己受害人地位🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9956af4781abcb948857","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q28b8f0e079fc7d11e397","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":972,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-03T13:31:22.914Z","text":"［用户 sar***］  你们这些杂碎败类、[屏蔽词]操出来的野种，任务就是忽悠[屏蔽词]引用cvra去要钱，当七哥的受害人，说什么内容不重要，一旦引用cvra去要钱，就会被法庭认证成七哥的受害人，你们这些杂碎就是一群死妈的[屏蔽词]，哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28b8f0e079fc7d11e397","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q121ece2bdb9e738a7e1f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":973,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-03T13:33:03.766Z","text":"你总结你瞎妈呢，你这[屏蔽词]跟这故意混淆 cvra和853n","edited":true,"reply_to":"q7c68e074f47d76884d0a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q121ece2bdb9e738a7e1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c68e074f47d76884d0a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qcba9d929f2f021712a1f","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":974,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-03T13:39:57.717Z","text":"［用户 xin***］  杂种星辰，今天又私聊忽悠了几个[屏蔽词]去当七哥的受害人了？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba9d929f2f021712a1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q4d205a479e85029e3644","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":975,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-09-03T13:44:59.328Z","text":"論跡不論心，糾結這些沒意義","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb5e5bdf0fd978d433529","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d205a479e85029e3644","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5e5bdf0fd978d433529","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qb51bb0136a194747f5c8","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":976,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:48:01.299Z","text":"不是，我就是你这个意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d205a479e85029e3644","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb51bb0136a194747f5c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d205a479e85029e3644","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q1910a919b29e86e240c3","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":977,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:48:37.849Z","text":"假设他的行为就是把你的钱骗了，那你救他的目的是什么？护送他把你的钱安全落袋，俯身甘心当他孙子？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1910a919b29e86e240c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q05c98cc054eb54973758","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":978,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:49:35.264Z","text":"他被定性与否，确实没关系；但只有他的定性确实是被诬陷的，你力保他出来，你才有赚钱，翻身的可能，你说我说的有问题吗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05c98cc054eb54973758","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qfa79f2f70ebef158e4b5","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":979,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:51:18.243Z","text":"螺丝的意思是，他是真的替我赚钱、还是他骗我钱，我都无视，我的目的就是：把他救出来。那你这就很神奇了。只有你是郭强郭美岳庆芝之类，才会这么做符合你的私利，问题你这个打螺丝的，是郭家远亲吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa79f2f70ebef158e4b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q258d863800c24134e092","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":980,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-03T13:51:57.343Z","text":"［用户 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假设你mlgb，法庭上是需要讲证据，讲程序的，不是讲你mlgb假设的。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q258d863800c24134e092","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q10fd051949db03279149","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":981,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-09-03T13:52:48.388Z","text":"你現在就是悖論，討論這個沒意義。能出來就是無罪，你這個預設就沒有前提了，不能出來，程序不正義，事實無罪，你這個也不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1910a919b29e86e240c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10fd051949db03279149","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1910a919b29e86e240c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qded78de5866b7a3341ea","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":982,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:53:12.540Z","text":"人家螺丝可不是这个意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10fd051949db03279149","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qded78de5866b7a3341ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10fd051949db03279149","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q070e1310f7122593babd","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":983,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-09-03T13:53:38.115Z","text":"是不是這個意思讓他回答，你去定義幹什麼呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qded78de5866b7a3341ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q070e1310f7122593babd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qded78de5866b7a3341ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qd22a0bb1f5594c26811d","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":984,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:54:15.507Z","text":"定罪与否，跟他是不是实际诈骗你，本身没有关系。那我问你，假设他无罪释放了，然后把你们所有人钱卷走，人间蒸发。你们心满意足，是吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd22a0bb1f5594c26811d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q45020d94f197b93e334a","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":985,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-09-03T13:54:41.666Z","text":"你這種假設更沒有邏輯基礎了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd22a0bb1f5594c26811d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45020d94f197b93e334a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd22a0bb1f5594c26811d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q3def4fd4fbec1f75d4f1","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":986,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:55:06.178Z","text":"或者更简单的说，辛普森杀人案，被判无罪，就等于他实际杀人行为，绝对没有发生，对吧。按你意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3def4fd4fbec1f75d4f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q6cc80c9659b92575cfd0","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":987,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:55:25.789Z","text":"只要郭出狱，他一定带你们赚翻。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc80c9659b92575cfd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qf5390eaf1edcd46c449b","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":988,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-09-03T13:55:28.037Z","text":"法律意義的無罪就是無罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5390eaf1edcd46c449b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q7da62f33964f0d8b331c","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":989,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:55:30.490Z","text":"你就是这个意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7da62f33964f0d8b331c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q458a36794813b9f74643","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":990,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:55:39.831Z","text":"对，法律意义无罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q458a36794813b9f74643","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q2f90d72fc551f0d2fde5","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":991,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-09-03T13:55:50.742Z","text":"只要法律意义上无罪，等于，他一定接下来带你们赚翻。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/d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zci***］  [屏蔽词]杂种，七哥杀谁了？辛普森实际犯罪，但是法律角度无罪，七哥实际无罪，被你们这些杂种强行判罪，你这狗杂碎拿辛普森案来类比，偷换概念，纯坏逼一个","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44211c0a4c0ca1cac223","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"qe80adb259b679512f26e","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":999,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-09-03T13:57:58.957Z","text":"商業金融行為怎麼能穩賺？你邏輯混亂不是一點","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe80adb259b679512f26e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"},{"id":"q5c8ba51dd5fd7dbd2844","batch_id":"batch-000031","seq":1000,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-09-03T13:58:48.868Z","text":"商業行為和法律意義是否有罪是同一性的麼？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c8ba51dd5fd7dbd2844","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000031"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000030","next_batch_id":"batch-000032"}