{"id":"batch-000033","number":33,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-09-05T18:45:00.965Z","date_end":"2025-09-08T06:55:27.977Z","total_messages":1000,"summary":"本次讨论主要围绕涉案相关诉讼进展、自诉（Pro Se）动议策略及受害人身份认定展开辩论。讨论者主要聚焦于以下分歧：一是关于当事人法律职位、股权责任与检方指控的关联，辩论亲属账户往来性质与资金去向；二是围绕法庭最新文件与检方文件的可信度，探讨是否存在程序瑕疵或翻案证据，以及各方对动议论点与事实细节的校对；三是针对自诉策略产生分歧，一部分人探讨援引《受害者权利法案》（CVRA）或853条财产申报介入诉讼以阻止资产没收，另一部分人则质疑以“受害人”身份介入可能与坚持被告无罪的立场产生逻辑冲突；四是对联盟农场责任、媒体宣传、自诉模板引用及是否统一委托律师等后续路径，参与者持不同意见并展开交锋。","guide":[{"title":"当事人职位、股权及亲属资金往来性质辩论","message_ids":["q32ce7e3b6f8af6419499","q4124426e8fc4fb7679c0","q282a1688e9282563350f"]},{"title":"对法庭与检方文件可信度及程序瑕疵的质疑","message_ids":["qf09cca48d49dda73e26a","qa0f67db6ad1e83e7240b","q3f26e9f578068fcc3ca3"]},{"title":"法庭724-729号更新文件研读与法官命令分析","message_ids":["q75db1008a0ad4778e5f6","qb4b3d3be5ffd7c751d0e","q40dd4b2a11bb3ae7749f"]},{"title":"Pro 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rim***］  多谢你帮我宣传顶级司法策略 多宣传一下","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa62cb546b495471802d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qde74bd94b3bba1f87deb","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":402,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T14:43:35.057Z","text":"法庭你家开的，说加入就加入，说退出就退出？也只有你这个低智商的安卓唐氏人能说出来这种[屏蔽词]话，哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":"qea1946e51c872206f0d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde74bd94b3bba1f87deb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea1946e51c872206f0d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qccdc597b5cba23fc77cd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":403,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T14:47:03.405Z","text":"今天有更新吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccdc597b5cba23fc77cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1e47f41cb02f5d035bc9","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":404,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T14:47:38.615Z","text":"这种顶级司法策略 也只有你这种低智商的安卓唐氏人的[屏蔽词]没办法理解 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"qde74bd94b3bba1f87deb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e47f41cb02f5d035bc9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde74bd94b3bba1f87deb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4aa4caf1160d6d914301","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":405,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T14:48:50.670Z","text":"诈骗犯青藤，性奴ava都用的你所谓的“顶（傻）级（逼）策略”，在当七哥的受害人呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e47f41cb02f5d035bc9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aa4caf1160d6d914301","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e47f41cb02f5d035bc9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfc77fd7bdff7fbcd6b4d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":406,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T14:49:23.255Z","text":"青藤退出了吗？发动议了吗？你这个[屏蔽词]？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4aa4caf1160d6d914301","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc77fd7bdff7fbcd6b4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aa4caf1160d6d914301","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa06d5df82d458981596b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":407,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T14:49:49.037Z","text":"［用户 rim***］ 你就是个被魔女骗60万的24k金纯[屏蔽词] 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa06d5df82d458981596b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4246b961ecb62cf8fdef","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":408,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T14:49:53.335Z","text":"青藤当庭否认是受害人，都在法庭文件里，你这[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfc77fd7bdff7fbcd6b4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4246b961ecb62cf8fdef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc77fd7bdff7fbcd6b4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q866e9d8d05ab08fe154a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":409,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T14:50:22.198Z","text":"你是个[屏蔽词] 当亭否认有用？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4246b961ecb62cf8fdef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q866e9d8d05ab08fe154a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4246b961ecb62cf8fdef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0b876bb76f43f3a0cf8b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":410,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T14:50:36.052Z","text":"［用户 rim***］ 你否认魔女骗你六十万 有用吗 🤣 骗了就是骗了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b876bb76f43f3a0cf8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q03115e9f9e89b2224bb4","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":411,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-06T14:56:40.200Z","text":"今天周六","edited":false,"reply_to":"qccdc597b5cba23fc77cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03115e9f9e89b2224bb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccdc597b5cba23fc77cd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qaa7f60c72de65a7c9954","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":412,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T15:00:51.331Z","text":"对啊，你这个[屏蔽词]，当了受害人，再否认有用？还是受害人。你真是个[屏蔽词]啊，自己打自己的逼脸","edited":true,"reply_to":"q866e9d8d05ab08fe154a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa7f60c72de65a7c9954","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q866e9d8d05ab08fe154a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe379dc6c2647310754d9","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":413,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T15:02:05.682Z","text":"你再瞎逼逼和无法理解这里的玄机 你再纠结也拿不回魔女骗你的六十万 哈哈哈哈哈哈 你继续帮我宣传吧！ 做我的一条看门狗！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa7f60c72de65a7c9954","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe379dc6c2647310754d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa7f60c72de65a7c9954","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe1dd3cc03a85cf3efcea","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":414,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:13:29.626Z","text":"你这[屏蔽词]肯定没看过盖尔的动议。所以你这[屏蔽词]跟盖尔一个路数，一边引用cvra介入案件，一边在动议里说自己代理的喜交所5000多人不承认自己是七哥的受害者，就这事龚大郎还四处宣传过。然后呢？还不是被检方给全部搞成了七哥的受害者！你这[屏蔽词]和新老诈骗联盟和盖尔一个路数。现在被我点破了，鳖孙杂碎瑞恩小逼！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8bc2f951f0345eeb1576","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1dd3cc03a85cf3efcea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q94fd4e17d378345b56a8","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":415,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:14:27.033Z","text":"哈哈！ 盖尔根本就不算个人 盖尔是非法代理性质  哈哈哈哈哈 你真他妈是个[屏蔽词]啊","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe1dd3cc03a85cf3efcea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94fd4e17d378345b56a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1dd3cc03a85cf3efcea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd55718c5ddae229878dd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":416,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:15:10.806Z","text":"你的智商根本理解不了复杂事物 醒醒吧！这里不适合你 你还是给魔女当男宠 把被骗的六十万慢慢赎回来吧 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1dd3cc03a85cf3efcea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55718c5ddae229878dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1dd3cc03a85cf3efcea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q33aee73b28466d6b5268","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":417,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:16:54.920Z","text":"［用户 rim***］ 你到现在为止 翻案的证据愣是一条没找出来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33aee73b28466d6b5268","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qba1135572618bdd2d0db","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":418,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:17:21.168Z","text":"归根结底你这[屏蔽词]杂碎就是要让别人成为七哥的受害人，跟新老诈骗联盟一个路数，杂碎瑞恩知道你为什么几个月来只骗到一个[屏蔽词]： ［用户 sar***］  吗？因为你是纯种低智商[屏蔽词]，能被你骗的智能逼你更[屏蔽词]！","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd55718c5ddae229878dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba1135572618bdd2d0db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55718c5ddae229878dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4f786139c1a2fa993b64","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":419,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:17:44.812Z","text":"哈哈！ 你这个[屏蔽词] 受害人就是律师 你能理解吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qba1135572618bdd2d0db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f786139c1a2fa993b64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba1135572618bdd2d0db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q43b1065a31df6a7db8c0","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":420,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:17:59.039Z","text":"受害者可以当律师 你这个弱智儿童 能理解吗？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43b1065a31df6a7db8c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6e51275e5014d46bf2bb","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":421,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:18:37.897Z","text":"下周开始 老郭的主律师是本人 记住我这一句话 截图 宣传！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba1135572618bdd2d0db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e51275e5014d46bf2bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba1135572618bdd2d0db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb647885af4566dbfc7dc","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":422,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:18:48.527Z","text":"性奴ava能理解，一边当七哥受害人一边当律师，你个大[屏蔽词]操出来的杂碎，丫真是尼玛反智到极点了。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4f786139c1a2fa993b64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb647885af4566dbfc7dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f786139c1a2fa993b64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa773e2e8c0ff5742800f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":423,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:19:03.011Z","text":"记住你吹过的牛逼，我等着看你当律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e51275e5014d46bf2bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa773e2e8c0ff5742800f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e51275e5014d46bf2bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa95cbf00b40f73058c1a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":424,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:19:23.788Z","text":"哈哈！ 你理解不了高深的理论 只能说别人反智  其实是你自己反智 被魔女骗 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb647885af4566dbfc7dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa95cbf00b40f73058c1a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb647885af4566dbfc7dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q97601e959066db0b5cde","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":425,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:19:42.625Z","text":"［用户 rim***］ 你赶紧大力宣传 老郭主律师下周就是我","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97601e959066db0b5cde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q31dffa51e4025a4beb6a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":426,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:21:01.882Z","text":"你这[屏蔽词]天天吹大逼，把你的装神弄鬼和鬼话连篇装饰成“高深的理论”，忽悠了几个月只成功骗到一个[屏蔽词]，其他人全都853n介入，你个[屏蔽词]玩意，孔乙己附体无法自拔了 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa95cbf00b40f73058c1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31dffa51e4025a4beb6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa95cbf00b40f73058c1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qda6da1350ffd5468a1db","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":427,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:21:36.604Z","text":"[屏蔽词] 我现在就是老郭主律师 你敢攻击我吗 哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":"q31dffa51e4025a4beb6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda6da1350ffd5468a1db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31dffa51e4025a4beb6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q898ea2a1bd1a836e97ab","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":428,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:22:28.844Z","text":"我等你，如果法庭不认证你是七哥新律师，我照样骂你这个[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qda6da1350ffd5468a1db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898ea2a1bd1a836e97ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda6da1350ffd5468a1db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfca8e34fbde692290841","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":429,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:25:51.973Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ ［用户 rui***］  瑞恩小逼灭爆小分队几个月以来的工作成果，成功忽悠到一个[屏蔽词]去当七哥的受害人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfca8e34fbde692290841","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q333e3bf91b12f11e0172","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":430,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:26:35.404Z","text":"哈哈 你这个[屏蔽词] 法庭发的文件 你能看得懂一句话 一个字？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q898ea2a1bd1a836e97ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q333e3bf91b12f11e0172","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898ea2a1bd1a836e97ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf0365b3ce28f729929c2","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":431,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:27:47.593Z","text":"瑞恩小逼工作几个月，只忽悠到一个[屏蔽词]去当七哥受害者。🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q333e3bf91b12f11e0172","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0365b3ce28f729929c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q333e3bf91b12f11e0172","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7a814172bdf5954be6b5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":432,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:28:41.174Z","text":"法庭文件 太复杂了 你的智商理解不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a814172bdf5954be6b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q495a4ff7cfc44187c3c4","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":433,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:28:55.549Z","text":"到时候把你的cpu烧坏了 搞不好被骗120万 哈哈哈哈哈！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q495a4ff7cfc44187c3c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa304aa67a652a1e6b48d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":434,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:29:24.272Z","text":"你这么想让我当受害者 我就不当 嘿嘿嘿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa304aa67a652a1e6b48d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q45004e6d629a6d013199","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":435,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:32:11.681Z","text":"你快去引用853n介入啊，去自诉啊，怎么，不敢？只敢在群里打嘴炮吹大逼？丫就一下水道蛆，废物。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa304aa67a652a1e6b48d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45004e6d629a6d013199","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa304aa67a652a1e6b48d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa918f02b7ec1d280413a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":436,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:32:30.282Z","text":"哈哈！你让我去 我偏不去 急死你呀急死你 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45004e6d629a6d013199","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa918f02b7ec1d280413a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45004e6d629a6d013199","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qdcaf1c41d09f96a312bf","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":437,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-06T17:33:12.002Z","text":"这也不敢，那也不敢，两个路径，你都不敢，纯废物，[屏蔽词]到家了🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa918f02b7ec1d280413a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcaf1c41d09f96a312bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa918f02b7ec1d280413a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd38bfa36ba06fafd20ba","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":438,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T17:33:32.211Z","text":"那我下周就去 哈哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd38bfa36ba06fafd20ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q228497c3af6c1facc7d6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":439,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-06T18:21:40.628Z","text":"看你这字里行间，好像不是重庆的吧。你是另外一位上庭的朋友吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26f1906bc26d1daa5c9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q228497c3af6c1facc7d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26f1906bc26d1daa5c9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8900372b44048b564074","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":440,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-06T20:23:09.783Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1964422654120907060?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8900372b44048b564074","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd846ca1f7aab424142c1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":441,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T21:23:45.168Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ \n\nhttps://x.com/sekay2016/status/1964266741951082617?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd846ca1f7aab424142c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q548beaa93b4180f7065a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":442,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-06T21:48:59.554Z","text":"小羊这个[屏蔽词]在直播。他现在扯虚无缥缈的玩意，走的就是播客路线，天南海北瞎扯犊子","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q548beaa93b4180f7065a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb1ba17e83662f409d5a2","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":443,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-06T22:00:06.196Z","text":"https://x.com/dff386090/status/1964438097074278466?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1ba17e83662f409d5a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q460c079e49c261a0a85d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":444,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:01:43.456Z","text":"反正也没人看了，跟路大头一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q548beaa93b4180f7065a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q460c079e49c261a0a85d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q548beaa93b4180f7065a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q3028bfd8db31184474f1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":445,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:02:15.664Z","text":"肯定没憋好屁","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1ba17e83662f409d5a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3028bfd8db31184474f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1ba17e83662f409d5a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5b5a4798b9aeaabae657","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":446,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:04:57.067Z","text":"我是不是也得再发一份双版的，我的附件都涂黑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b5a4798b9aeaabae657","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5bdab6f9dd468810876d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":447,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:05:30.761Z","text":"传了会有延迟的，周一发就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadf0688a74f9952258c6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bdab6f9dd468810876d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q55f16ad92af3d28454c6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":448,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:06:56.045Z","text":"那就再写一份干联盟农场的，顺便把附件啥的都再传一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55f16ad92af3d28454c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q669d2b1ee17afc048e88","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":449,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:07:32.195Z","text":"这60天包括法庭处理第三方纠纷的时间吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd77cc0e708a67aa134b8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q669d2b1ee17afc048e88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qadc9fd4d619c25abfc25","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":450,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:09:32.511Z","text":"现在不是纠纷，是审判程序有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadc9fd4d619c25abfc25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q82766befa51cfbdc9ebf","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":451,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-06T22:10:34.877Z","text":"就怕法官给你拖着","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4a6416d4f31293395d8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82766befa51cfbdc9ebf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe9c21da1ce354d9e9e10","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":452,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-06T22:56:55.348Z","text":"在等一周","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd77cc0e708a67aa134b8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9c21da1ce354d9e9e10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","b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不宣传 729的。大v 全部拉黑。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcfc2596b98f3e99492e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q00604defdfef1327e91f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":471,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:02:16.372Z","text":"从拒绝保释开始，法官就掉坑里了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1565847d1d1aac644ff","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00604defdfef1327e91f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcd97a411d6291ac8cf43","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":472,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:02:37.786Z","text":"准确的说是保释前 315那一天","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00604defdfef1327e91f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd97a411d6291ac8cf43","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00604defdfef1327e91f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4c491b66ab6684719d0c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":473,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-07T00:02:59.418Z","text":"照妖镜。照出 很多鬼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c491b66ab6684719d0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc29fa7ba31a2839758a9","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":474,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:03:07.864Z","text":"嗯，对，逮捕令就是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd97a411d6291ac8cf43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc29fa7ba31a2839758a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd97a411d6291ac8cf43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7af4c01c72c501b2c016","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":475,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:03:25.776Z","text":"逮捕令也有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc29fa7ba31a2839758a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7af4c01c72c501b2c016","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc29fa7ba31a2839758a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q06c38966592ec9587223","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":476,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:03:37.469Z","text":"如果有债权人 那逮捕令就不合规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06c38966592ec9587223","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q712e6a0566fd1e89dcb0","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":477,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:03:55.335Z","text":"现在还在瞎扯淡，爆联盟，甚至扯美国的，都[屏蔽词]在演戏","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbcfc2596b98f3e99492e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q712e6a0566fd1e89dcb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcfc2596b98f3e99492e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q16224540e5bd715f6583","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":478,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:04:17.744Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 等我动议上了 既可以看看 我说的很清楚 检方哪里诈骗 怎么诈骗 什么时候开始的诈骗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16224540e5bd715f6583","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa9827afb641f4a6e265c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":479,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:04:42.970Z","text":"你第一份就要上报告吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16224540e5bd715f6583","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9827afb641f4a6e265c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16224540e5bd715f6583","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf9688f22165eab86176c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":480,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:04:56.264Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9827afb641f4a6e265c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9688f22165eab86176c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9827afb641f4a6e265c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcfc156c9a07e09ade15f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":481,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:05:18.677Z","text":"我已经骂了这个米谢了，还在装瞎","edited":false,"reply_to":"q062e0ba9798927313a76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfc156c9a07e09ade15f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q062e0ba9798927313a76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8b667bf0535b16e7f6fd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":482,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:06:14.212Z","text":"别用受害者，853就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf9688f22165eab86176c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b667bf0535b16e7f6fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9688f22165eab86176c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q95d8d761c26df533ed92","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":483,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:07:28.524Z","text":"让ai再给你润色一下措辞，以揭露检方欺诈法官，替她鸣不平的语气去说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95d8d761c26df533ed92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q82e47eaaee31149ebf5a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":484,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:07:35.212Z","text":"我那个打法必须受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b667bf0535b16e7f6fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82e47eaaee31149ebf5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b667bf0535b16e7f6fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q50de1532dfc2044212eb","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":485,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:07:42.363Z","text":"853权限不够","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50de1532dfc2044212eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6eae5758f6e33c2ff1bb","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":486,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:07:57.466Z","text":"检方胆敢欺骗一位秉持公正的法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eae5758f6e33c2ff1bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qafc9d3a42546e5dc9174","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":487,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:09:08.773Z","text":"你是为下一步做准备？853不也能上诉吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82e47eaaee31149ebf5a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafc9d3a42546e5dc9174","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82e47eaaee31149ebf5a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5bfd98c2cc475274a750","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":488,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:11:05.689Z","text":"但是要跟你的身份匹配，受害者这么说合适吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6865312567e72934a79","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bfd98c2cc475274a750","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd841e5dde274ca2c7852","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":489,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:11:23.748Z","text":"受害者不同意政府没收，是这个意思吗","edited":false,"reply_to":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但干的是文贵律师的活","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6387f0639b23529e5425","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q867b0a4d1ae1cc57fed7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6387f0639b23529e5425","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb64cd8b851c85a6c2865","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":494,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:26:47.483Z","text":"只有受害者有权限这么干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb64cd8b851c85a6c2865","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1b92385ddb2ac262ad90","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":495,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:26:53.688Z","text":"你先上吧，等上去了咱们就改变战术，鼓励填了表的都去做受害人，干检方","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38aa7d394545b576551f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b92385ddb2ac262ad90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q66e43dcc3c4dd8ebcdc7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":496,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:27:01.409Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1b92385ddb2ac262ad90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66e43dcc3c4dd8ebcdc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b92385ddb2ac262ad90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcdaa4e6b39b00ab25e84","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":497,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:27:15.191Z","text":"等我先上吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdaa4e6b39b00ab25e84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe336035c51a13bc3215b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":498,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:28:45.291Z","text":"也能顺手干联盟吧，他们和检方共谋，欺诈人们去当受害者？这个逻辑哪里不对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66e43dcc3c4dd8ebcdc7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe336035c51a13bc3215b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66e43dcc3c4dd8ebcdc7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q46c63daa7474286ba455","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":499,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:29:32.345Z","text":"是不是讲的挺明白的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q362eabe7009bce154ae1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c63daa7474286ba455","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q362eabe7009bce154ae1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1cb54fb1b2efb3ca0e41","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":500,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:30:02.466Z","text":"我动议线上 你们可以引用了 就可以说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe336035c51a13bc3215b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cb54fb1b2efb3ca0e41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe336035c51a13bc3215b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q329fc9fa8a6ed50a1052","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":501,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:30:37.834Z","text":"想一下这里肯定有漏洞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q329fc9fa8a6ed50a1052","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcaf2d31074a2fa7fc70c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":502,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:31:48.064Z","text":"但是填表的本来就是做受害者啊，从什么角度打呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaf2d31074a2fa7fc70c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb14e199a14f95b1a4272","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":503,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T00:32:11.542Z","text":"打检方利用债权人制造受害者？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb14e199a14f95b1a4272","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc5df89368067d5203e17","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":504,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T00:37:41.013Z","text":"当受害者，我可以说文贵没害我、没骗我，而是检方抓了不该抓的人，没抓应该抓的人，断章取义、隐瞒对文贵不利的证据，没有履行布雷迪义务，要求拆案、调查Luc和盖尔。相当于我当了律师的角色，而文贵真正的律师渎职、吃干饭。😂\n对吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66e43dcc3c4dd8ebcdc7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5df89368067d5203e17","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66e43dcc3c4dd8ebcdc7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q3aeeb7ae4e35bda624cc","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":505,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:38:59.902Z","text":"差不多就这个意思 很多话 只有受害者才有权限说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5df89368067d5203e17","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aeeb7ae4e35bda624cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5df89368067d5203e17","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q847eab8f65e087e61287","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":506,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:39:21.964Z","text":"而且受害者有一个天然优势 就是你都是受害者了 你居然替被告说话 这个效果就非常重磅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q847eab8f65e087e61287","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb70aa5a781efbb140156","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":507,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:39:53.703Z","text":"青藤之前演的就是这么干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb70aa5a781efbb140156","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa8aa14812f8f847ca784","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":508,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T00:40:09.809Z","text":"想当受害者就能当吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q847eab8f65e087e61287","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8aa14812f8f847ca784","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q847eab8f65e087e61287","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcb4af5b37becdd5705f6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":509,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:40:10.221Z","text":"这就是为什么托雷斯不让他开口","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb4af5b37becdd5705f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4cd41a7c7a3855aa14b3","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":510,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:40:25.862Z","text":"你投资钱了 用受害者法案介入就可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8aa14812f8f847ca784","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cd41a7c7a3855aa14b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8aa14812f8f847ca784","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe7008a406db7459d1993","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":511,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:40:34.044Z","text":"你先不用急 等我先上 给你们打样板","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7008a406db7459d1993","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q434f6629490d25b7994f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":512,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T00:41:26.212Z","text":"我现在要开始起草、准确资料、收集证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7008a406db7459d1993","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q434f6629490d25b7994f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7008a406db7459d1993","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfa2fc054c8e62cc8ab33","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":513,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:41:54.290Z","text":"没事 到时候用我报告胡打一通都行🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q434f6629490d25b7994f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa2fc054c8e62cc8ab33","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q434f6629490d25b7994f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q64a9837cfbc0f79d2bf4","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":514,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T00:44:31.432Z","text":"大家都跟我一起被瑞恩忽悠着来当受害者，气死那条蛆。叫它如何向魔女交差？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64a9837cfbc0f79d2bf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd664b5974c30a34589de","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":515,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T00:47:33.251Z","text":"到时候我动议出来 大家都可以机器人问 我这个动议是害老郭的还是帮老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q64a9837cfbc0f79d2bf4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd664b5974c30a34589de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64a9837cfbc0f79d2bf4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8173a7da93c8543ba95a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":516,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T00:49:41.863Z","text":"我们都患了斯德哥尔莫综合症。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8173a7da93c8543ba95a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q72cccdd4ac12fa7a448c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":517,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T00:50:29.643Z","text":"我这脑子好像突然开窍了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72cccdd4ac12fa7a448c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q006ebd369c06daee5ff5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":518,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T00:52:07.991Z","text":"被人骗了还帮别人数钱。开心就好。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q006ebd369c06daee5ff5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe73781043439b032d7ec","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":519,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-07T00:52:49.039Z","text":"不是斯德哥尔摩综合征 是没得选","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe73781043439b032d7ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q97b8fbc2d80c24a758ad","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":520,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-07T00:53:05.946Z","text":"要是不投钱 早特么远离这个组织了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97b8fbc2d80c24a758ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q19cd80f46c00e39a1461","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":521,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-07T00:53:34.206Z","text":"郭总是说共产党把人民拉上战车 我看我被拉上战车了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19cd80f46c00e39a1461","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1593c4302ec952d60c10","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":522,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T01:36:25.227Z","text":"各位 中文报告出炉啦 你们要现在看还是下周看？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1593c4302ec952d60c10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb6611a925a40cb5694f5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":523,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-07T01:48:38.217Z","text":"受害者要看是谁的受害者者，谁输就是谁的受害者。案件往下发展，美国政府要不要帮中共背锅来当共谋。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6611a925a40cb5694f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q69d229212950a4f4b018","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":524,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-07T01:53:19.439Z","text":"853可以说受到luc,检方，破产法庭对财产权的系统性侵害，受害者可以说受到它们的系统性欺诈。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69d229212950a4f4b018","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q87b7f2047a3ee7c658f0","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":525,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T01:59:30.862Z","text":"你要快一点啊，我记得有个时间只有15天了，23号到这个月22号公示期好像就结束了\n60天是给853的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe7008a406db7459d1993","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87b7f2047a3ee7c658f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7008a406db7459d1993","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc8c15c2dba653def6222","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":526,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T02:04:12.071Z","text":"我觉得这个思路好，要怎么操作呢\n瑞恩喊了好久了，雷声大雨点小，我反正不能太指望他","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5df89368067d5203e17","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8c15c2dba653def6222","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5df89368067d5203e17","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q07496c335de3b35fcb8f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":527,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T02:14:31.817Z","text":"你这个思路本身就是错的 你唯一能指望的只有你自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8c15c2dba653def6222","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07496c335de3b35fcb8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8c15c2dba653def6222","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q03d0c480fd13c6432616","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":528,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T02:15:36.187Z","text":"到现在了，谁也不相信了，只能靠自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"q07496c335de3b35fcb8f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03d0c480fd13c6432616","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07496c335de3b35fcb8f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q723e2f73e507b50ad8ed","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":529,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T02:15:59.501Z","text":"检方欺诈 有哪些细节可以挖的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q723e2f73e507b50ad8ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q546bbe8f98443be80970","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":530,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T02:17:59.758Z","text":"别说没用的，来点思路，我们手里的材料太少了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q546bbe8f98443be80970","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc943c45195bbc1581325","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":531,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T02:26:36.910Z","text":"有没有办法拆开把William Je和郭先生之间的关系？这块有操作空间吗 说实话我根本不知道Je是谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc943c45195bbc1581325","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q974c8bbe87a811c3ac63","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":532,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T02:34:53.644Z","text":"它们是假受害者，陷害被告，而且占绝大多数，而我们是少数真受害者，而又偏偏为被告辩护，这真是一场惊天绝伦的大戏呀。\n而我们又是翻转局面的华人少数群体。\n唉，我也跟着瑞恩打鸡血了。我开始明白了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc24a99ea37d91097edf9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q974c8bbe87a811c3ac63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa6ce81f993185f7175d2","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":533,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T02:36:46.399Z","text":"现在看！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1593c4302ec952d60c10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6ce81f993185f7175d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1593c4302ec952d60c10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q317f2ecad7baedde1d7f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":534,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T02:42:05.315Z","text":"证人这个环节有没有问题？印象中很多证人拿了不少钱，事实上当时喜交所没有关闭的时候，他们能兑换的钱，远远大于他们投资的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q317f2ecad7baedde1d7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7fa556fd0e8073dbe016","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":535,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T02:44:47.502Z","text":"是不是可以这么理解，不要围绕郭先生是否有罪这个命题，而是从其他方面进攻？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q974c8bbe87a811c3ac63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fa556fd0e8073dbe016","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q974c8bbe87a811c3ac63","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8de89e1849921fd2eca7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":536,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T02:49:17.657Z","text":"是的。主要是程序不正义。他们在法庭呈现的东西似乎都很天衣无缝的，我们无法反驳。我们只要把我们见证到的事情说出来就可以了。发出自已的声音。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fa556fd0e8073dbe016","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8de89e1849921fd2eca7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fa556fd0e8073dbe016","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2c5ef7b4f7efd9259517","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":537,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T02:54:17.687Z","text":"按照瑞恩的意思，如果我们当受害者，权力就大了很多，可以充当律师的角色，可以质疑检方的程序不正义、没有履行布雷迪义务、没有保护受害者，等等。不一定要面面俱到，你一言我一语，说自己认为是实锤、有把握的。\n瑞恩小哥写的东西很全面，我们其他人很难做到象他那样。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17f190366023fc6ea8b9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c5ef7b4f7efd9259517","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q74c2a54080173d61243c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":538,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T02:56:05.336Z","text":"不过如果当受害者 你的打法必须得骚 不然就浪费受害者这么好的身份了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c5ef7b4f7efd9259517","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74c2a54080173d61243c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c5ef7b4f7efd9259517","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2129abfb4da3be4adb1b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":539,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T02:57:15.615Z","text":"怎么个骚法？PDF文件也是限制在15MG吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74c2a54080173d61243c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2129abfb4da3be4adb1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74c2a54080173d61243c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2f5bbd90c25304d2c9b9","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":540,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T02:57:45.863Z","text":"就是必须用853没有 受害者有的权力 不然当受害者就没必要了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2129abfb4da3be4adb1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f5bbd90c25304d2c9b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2129abfb4da3be4adb1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qbae0d8ada66998e3cf0d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":541,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T02:57:52.825Z","text":"太骚的话，会不会被踢岀来？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74c2a54080173d61243c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbae0d8ada66998e3cf0d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74c2a54080173d61243c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q359821aae2b2e599143c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":542,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T02:58:21.828Z","text":"太骚会被拒绝或者不理 只要不下禁制令 骚就没边界","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbae0d8ada66998e3cf0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359821aae2b2e599143c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbae0d8ada66998e3cf0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q445906f3c641d602ec79","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":543,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T03:00:01.204Z","text":"我315之后投资了A10，2022投资了GTV农场借贷，可以当受害者吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q359821aae2b2e599143c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q445906f3c641d602ec79","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359821aae2b2e599143c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5f561805c3f9506bb87a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":544,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T03:05:01.863Z","text":"a10 借贷都可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"q445906f3c641d602ec79","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f561805c3f9506bb87a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q445906f3c641d602ec79","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0dff553a05aa1c66e78f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":545,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T03:06:03.356Z","text":"当受害者要钱很有必要 不然法官觉得你standing不够","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe75364cefebde5d03f4a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dff553a05aa1c66e78f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q70b5d81542b90f14e781","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":546,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T03:09:06.946Z","text":"哦。其实我不是很想要钱，也要装着要钱，其实我更想文贵出来。但是不能这么斯文，要骚、要狠。对吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0dff553a05aa1c66e78f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70b5d81542b90f14e781","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dff553a05aa1c66e78f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2d9df439c2624ad7c455","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":547,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-07T03:54:39.966Z","text":"当老郭的受害人要先回答法庭提问哟。参考Ava：\n\nTHE COURT: What is your name?\n\nMS. CHIN: My legal is Legia (ph) but people refer to me as Ava. Thank you.\n\nTHE COURT: Do you consider yourself to have been directly harmed by Ms. Wang's criminal conduct?\n\nMS. CHIN: Yes. Based on what I heard, you talked to Forest Zhou, I will be different. So my answer is yes, and I provided my investment, I invested $200,000 in GTV and also\nG/CLUBS, and still my fund is withheld, and I have been suffering financial consequences because those money are taken away from me.\n\nTHE COURT: Do you believe that this loss of money was a foreseeable consequence of Ms. Wang's criminal conduct?\n\nMS. CHIN: Because she pled guilty, so I would say yes.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d9df439c2624ad7c455","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qef26e3443823a5a916c3","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":548,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T03:55:02.441Z","text":"这是受害人陈述","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d9df439c2624ad7c455","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef26e3443823a5a916c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d9df439c2624ad7c455","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q225cf0612713998c1488","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":549,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T03:55:12.679Z","text":"我这个是没收程序第三方动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q225cf0612713998c1488","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfaf78d60803885b428c5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":550,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-07T03:55:32.492Z","text":"是的，瑞恩小哥要交的不是受害人陈述。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaf78d60803885b428c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4cc50aa2fa6f27f32695","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":551,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T03:55:56.783Z","text":"哈哈 我还是喜欢你的风格 比较实在","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaf78d60803885b428c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cc50aa2fa6f27f32695","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaf78d60803885b428c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa7e773015e09a7c5ed14","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":552,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T03:56:00.570Z","text":"那个z开头的什么玩意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7e773015e09a7c5ed14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qdabf80e3695b681b66b7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":553,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-07T04:05:29.688Z","text":"搞个投资全搞成法律专家了 活像国内的p2p","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdabf80e3695b681b66b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q60296d45413c1d4c29aa","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":554,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T04:38:54.190Z","text":"你可以让书记处隐藏。附件附上两份动议（一份有附件，一份无附件）即可。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdf63c8771bbc629de42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60296d45413c1d4c29aa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf63c8771bbc629de42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4c135a1ace0579bd7d3d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":555,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T04:56:56.340Z","text":"问一下 法庭哪个文件有说不允许提和CCP相关的事情？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c135a1ace0579bd7d3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q123587ce44cf36d6af1e","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":556,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:14:24.695Z","text":"引用受害者权利不等于你同意检方的指控，也不等于你认为被告有罪。但你要在动议里说明。而且你可以只引用其中的一部分，因为受害者权利法案包括很多内容，你可以选择性引用。总之，引用受害者权利法案不等于你承认受害，你可以是用它保护你自己的权利，比如，在法庭说话的权利，保护财产的权利，等等。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaf78d60803885b428c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q123587ce44cf36d6af1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaf78d60803885b428c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7a511a4c345000e05e2b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":557,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:17:34.524Z","text":"这个和盖尔引用受害者权利法案还不太一样。因为盖尔他不只引用了，还多次在他动议里提到“受害者”这个词语。他也没说853n优先。他还代表那么多人。总之，盖尔引用受害者权利法案，是很有问题的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a511a4c345000e05e2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd6d262cfff453b497e92","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":558,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:19:06.980Z","text":"盖尔引用CVRA是在庭审之后还是之前？是之后吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d262cfff453b497e92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q27898a2cfce10abe0a04","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":559,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:20:48.060Z","text":"盖尔庭审后第二个动议直接引用了受害者权利法案，他也没解释他的客户不同意检方指控。后来可能因为螺丝哥写信撤销代理，其他很多人也学螺丝哥写信给盖尔，最后盖尔就发了478，说引用受害者权利法案不等于同意检方指控，但是他还是不停说他客户是受害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27898a2cfce10abe0a04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2684ede557a57d7b6928","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":560,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:21:20.508Z","text":"盖尔的第二个动议是几号文件？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2684ede557a57d7b6928","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcaceb907dfc9f1b41afe","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":561,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:23:51.046Z","text":"忘了，就是庭审后有一次，在478之前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaceb907dfc9f1b41afe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc7a4ea115d767a676aee","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":562,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:25:02.966Z","text":"就是庭审之后是吗？如果是庭审之后的话无法影响到陪审团了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7a4ea115d767a676aee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1d5e4040a1b39d88d255","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":563,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:25:59.367Z","text":"庭审之前他好像是引用了41g反对没收去要求解冻财产。法官驳回了，因为他去的时间不对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d5e4040a1b39d88d255","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qbbca3dc6aa023688f393","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":564,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:26:28.057Z","text":"那个时候没收程序还没有开启","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbca3dc6aa023688f393","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8e29d33b0b00c9f2386b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":565,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:27:20.075Z","text":"总之这个盖尔每次去要钱，时机都不对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e29d33b0b00c9f2386b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf4adf0251d7b53a8f919","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":566,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:27:54.290Z","text":"盖尔在庭审前的要钱，这个事情有可能会影响到陪审团的判断吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1d5e4040a1b39d88d255","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/mess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郭先生和Je一起搞诈骗？\n恰恰因为盖尔的申明这些钱属于这些人，才导致了陪审团对喜交所的有罪判断\n而现在因为案件已经被判有罪，盖尔就换成了受害者不在坚持853了，庭审前和庭审后前后捅了两刀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e924de865f43801917","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfec0127fd0a5e84a2ad6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":569,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:33:29.840Z","text":"盖尔代表的这些人，到底是什么作用，要看检方怎么看待这6000多人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfec0127fd0a5e84a2ad6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfcd2fce317ba585b65c5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":570,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:33:54.432Z","text":"从检方的角度，这6000多人就是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcd2fce317ba585b65c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4e0f0ce612e5b5f8b66a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":571,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:34:30.486Z","text":"但是授权给盖尔代理的人，他们的目的不是去伤害郭的，对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0f0ce612e5b5f8b66a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q773ad78d8e6b101899aa","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":572,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:35:01.508Z","text":"所以盖尔或者检方的行为，和授权盖尔的这些人的本意，不一定是一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q773ad78d8e6b101899aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfaef9e0ebbb25ae7b016","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":573,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-07T05:35:40.756Z","text":"引用受害者权利法案，是不是要先表明自己是法案定义的受害者？\n\n法案怎么定义受害者？\n\n你在某个被告的量刑程序中引用受害者权利法案，然后说你认为被告无罪，是不是一种自相矛盾？你其余的话还有分量吗？\n\n王雁平量刑听证会上，法官为什么要先问Ava Chin（陈乐嘉）以上两个问题，在她回答“是”以后才让她继续？而Forrest Zhou（青藤、周越）回答了“否”就不让他继续讲了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d9df439c2624ad7c455","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaef9e0ebbb25ae7b016","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d9df439c2624ad7c455","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe3577dc25696f78d214f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":574,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:36:45.826Z","text":"检方说6000多人受害者的，这个有法庭文件吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3577dc25696f78d214f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q476c98d95f89e044e957","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":575,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:37:09.640Z","text":"就算盖尔说喜交所的钱属于这些人，也不等于郭诈骗了吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06e924de865f43801917","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q476c98d95f89e044e957","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e924de865f43801917","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd6b0ff7bd988c2f01a26","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":576,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:37:37.428Z","text":"这是两回事，但是按道理说不应该是客户去法庭要钱，应该是喜交所去法庭要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6b0ff7bd988c2f01a26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qeec9d4e4cbaed048b046","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":577,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:37:55.666Z","text":"是的，他要钱的方式和时机极其的不合适","edited":false,"reply_to":"q476c98d95f89e044e957","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeec9d4e4cbaed048b046","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q476c98d95f89e044e957","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6e943eb26af70a09c2d1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":578,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:38:10.209Z","text":"我没有说被告无罪 你下周看了我的动议就知道了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaef9e0ebbb25ae7b016","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e943eb26af70a09c2d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaef9e0ebbb25ae7b016","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q86e0c3d90ac45537dd18","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":579,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:38:52.567Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  被告有没有罪 和被告翻不翻案 也是两回事","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86e0c3d90ac45537dd18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q94d8d4b320d92f3ccab6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":580,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:39:06.809Z","text":"没有啊，检方从来没挑明。也许你们谁可以去问问，到底盖尔代表的人是不是受害者？检方肯定认为他们是受害者，检方认为所有人都是受害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3577dc25696f78d214f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94d8d4b320d92f3ccab6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3577dc25696f78d214f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd7bd65f63a1cbe41cbac","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":581,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:39:41.233Z","text":"只要你在法庭上出现了，检方就认为你是受害者。当然法官不这么认为。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7bd65f63a1cbe41cbac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q920878257d86e0ee3a11","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":582,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:39:55.471Z","text":"我退一万步讲 我今天就算开始砸郭 我承认郭骗我钱 但是就算是这样 我也不会在这案子起诉郭。 因为这案子 郭铁定是翻案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q920878257d86e0ee3a11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qdc04a2d8e08f569114f3","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":583,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:40:13.900Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 你可以去理解一下","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc04a2d8e08f569114f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q31e7506b2b8809f271d2","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":584,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:40:58.439Z","text":"这个很难做到\nCVRA（18 U.S.C. § 3771）明确规定：\n适用对象：只能是“crime victim” → 定义为“a person directly and proximately harmed as a result of the commission of a Federal offense” （因联邦犯罪而直接且近因地受到损害的人）。\n赋予权利：被告知、出席、发言、请求返还、要求合理保护等。\n 换句话说：如果要援引 CVRA，你必须先被认定为被告的“受害人”。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q123587ce44cf36d6af1e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31e7506b2b8809f271d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q123587ce44cf36d6af1e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q01b439fec45bf57e397c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":585,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:41:45.708Z","text":"你应该去研究 你承认为被告的受害人后 有哪些权利","edited":false,"reply_to":"q31e7506b2b8809f271d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01b439fec45bf57e397c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31e7506b2b8809f271d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc89738bbff90cabd423d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":586,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:44:15.023Z","text":"如果引用了受害者权利法案，肯定不能说被告无罪。但可以说，你也不知道被告到底有罪无罪，因为有罪无罪是法庭判断的。你作为第三方，没有权利判断。你引用受害者权利法案，只是保护你的权利而已。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaef9e0ebbb25ae7b016","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc89738bbff90cabd423d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaef9e0ebbb25ae7b016","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8c1cc4c2e65b3ecf503f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":587,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:46:12.410Z","text":"如果目标是 翻案：\n不要用 CVRA，因为它会反向削弱“郭无罪”的立场；\n应该重点走 Brady 证据申请、陪审团误导论证、责任切割（喜联储 vs 郭） 这几条路；\n你可以用 21 U.S.C. § 853(n) 来维护财产权，而不用 CVRA，把身份保持在“第三方利害关系人”，而不是“郭的受害人”。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c1cc4c2e65b3ecf503f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q12087f9644ebba79fe65","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":588,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:46:33.703Z","text":"感觉CVRA操作起来难度太大了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12087f9644ebba79fe65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q88fa6c84e2d4f2866b43","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":589,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:47:23.576Z","text":"算了，我还是用853 CVRA这种骚操作留给其他人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88fa6c84e2d4f2866b43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q3f924145354337dd8430","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":590,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:48:03.030Z","text":"如果你引用CVRA，你可以解释一下你的立场，要说明白，限制CVRA的范围。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f924145354337dd8430","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf14dc00d02b499d6e1d8","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":591,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:48:35.526Z","text":"下周你就会知道怎么操作了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c1cc4c2e65b3ecf503f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf14dc00d02b499d6e1d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c1cc4c2e65b3ecf503f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q3407c90d5b85916f6891","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":592,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:48:50.344Z","text":"绝对惊掉你的下巴","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3407c90d5b85916f6891","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6544425859a8163e9945","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":593,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:48:53.770Z","text":"到下周就只有一周时间了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf14dc00d02b499d6e1d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6544425859a8163e9945","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf14dc00d02b499d6e1d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7361455e0b9b5baf3954","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":594,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T05:49:08.423Z","text":"你甚至可以说，我虽然引用了 CVRA，但是我不想对被告有负面影响。这样检方就不能说你受害。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7361455e0b9b5baf3954","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qce8e681ebc1fc2ae4754","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":595,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:49:38.708Z","text":"I am a victim of the fraudulent scheme alleged in case 118, within the meaning of 18 U.S.C. § 3771(e)(2), but I do not take a position on which defendant is responsible.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce8e681ebc1fc2ae4754","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q56242d64278ae187eee7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":596,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:49:47.702Z","text":"这是AI给我的说法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56242d64278ae187eee7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc456da04266eb5e21697","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":597,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:50:07.752Z","text":"但是我觉得也不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc456da04266eb5e21697","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4173dd2ee0d8604de958","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":598,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:50:07.903Z","text":"［用户 him***］  到下周只有一周了？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6544425859a8163e9945","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4173dd2ee0d8604de958","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6544425859a8163e9945","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5dee0569bc8a56498295","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":599,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T05:50:25.212Z","text":"你先别纠结了 我向你保证 下周一定告诉你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc456da04266eb5e21697","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dee0569bc8a56498295","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc456da04266eb5e21697","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcdcbf86c01bd2cd913aa","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":600,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T05:50:40.446Z","text":"有两个时间节点吧，一个30天一个60天，不知道我理解的对不对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdcbf86c01bd2cd913aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000032","next_batch_id":"batch-000034"}