{"id":"batch-000033","number":33,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-09-05T18:45:00.965Z","date_end":"2025-09-08T06:55:27.977Z","total_messages":1000,"summary":"本次讨论主要围绕涉案相关诉讼进展、自诉（Pro Se）动议策略及受害人身份认定展开辩论。讨论者主要聚焦于以下分歧：一是关于当事人法律职位、股权责任与检方指控的关联，辩论亲属账户往来性质与资金去向；二是围绕法庭最新文件与检方文件的可信度，探讨是否存在程序瑕疵或翻案证据，以及各方对动议论点与事实细节的校对；三是针对自诉策略产生分歧，一部分人探讨援引《受害者权利法案》（CVRA）或853条财产申报介入诉讼以阻止资产没收，另一部分人则质疑以“受害人”身份介入可能与坚持被告无罪的立场产生逻辑冲突；四是对联盟农场责任、媒体宣传、自诉模板引用及是否统一委托律师等后续路径，参与者持不同意见并展开交锋。","guide":[{"title":"当事人职位、股权及亲属资金往来性质辩论","message_ids":["q32ce7e3b6f8af6419499","q4124426e8fc4fb7679c0","q282a1688e9282563350f"]},{"title":"对法庭与检方文件可信度及程序瑕疵的质疑","message_ids":["qf09cca48d49dda73e26a","qa0f67db6ad1e83e7240b","q3f26e9f578068fcc3ca3"]},{"title":"法庭724-729号更新文件研读与法官命令分析","message_ids":["q75db1008a0ad4778e5f6","qb4b3d3be5ffd7c751d0e","q40dd4b2a11bb3ae7749f"]},{"title":"Pro 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hua***］ 黄老师应该让砸郭的也在没收程序中发动议砸郭啊 这样才有意思","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1072602a88a037d07bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0aef76f413d2cc9deed6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":623,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:12:32.114Z","text":"他就是给检方提供受害人的角色","edited":false,"reply_to":"q409b8a534cbc6cd8aad2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0aef76f413d2cc9deed6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q409b8a534cbc6cd8aad2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":624,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:13:01.846Z","text":"1️⃣案件基本已无翻盘可能2️⃣王雁平认罪之后其实已将郭案办诚铁案3、川普不会救老郭。4、郭不认罪刑期超40年。结论：翻案不可能了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa46fe06a7741a456c0e4","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":625,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:13:30.551Z","text":"感谢黄老师的评价👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46fe06a7741a456c0e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7a9135fa93dbbfbe83fb","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":626,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:13:43.317Z","text":"黄老师说的有什么法律依据吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a9135fa93dbbfbe83fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7dba9cf3f306d43d2fa1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":627,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:14:17.630Z","text":"盖尔就是给检方助攻\n最后都不用法院判，只要钱没收了，你不是受害者也变成受害者了，因为这个钱只有你自己去领，否则让那帮债权人领？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dba9cf3f306d43d2fa1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfb4334ebc01305dde825","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":628,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:14:18.530Z","text":"请用因为所以句式","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb4334ebc01305dde825","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7fcb9b0bfc8729a7db92","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":629,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:15:00.403Z","text":"我咨询了几位法务界人士，基本观点相似。陪审团裁定推翻门槛高。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fcb9b0bfc8729a7db92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q9827fbe2c9f8e9b3b29b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":630,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:15:08.929Z","text":"必须把他的协议给废了，干坏事还白捡钱，天底下哪有这么便宜的事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7dba9cf3f306d43d2fa1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9827fbe2c9f8e9b3b29b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dba9cf3f306d43d2fa1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q754cee1e29ee0c7e1dc1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":631,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:15:28.611Z","text":"哦 明白了 您咨询的法律人士的建议 其实是非常客观的 这一点我站在您这边 👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fcb9b0bfc8729a7db92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q754cee1e29ee0c7e1dc1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fcb9b0bfc8729a7db92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q24df03269cd80284dbb7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":632,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:15:32.383Z","text":"黄老师只不过重复了砸锅的官方论点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24df03269cd80284dbb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6a18951078a5a6824c49","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":633,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:15:37.638Z","text":"没有新意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a18951078a5a6824c49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6ce4424451eb52af0e62","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":634,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:16:04.737Z","text":"你别提前掀锅盖啊，那就没意思了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q754cee1e29ee0c7e1dc1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ce4424451eb52af0e62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q754cee1e29ee0c7e1dc1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe158f7f050e90be0e7d0","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":635,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:16:38.226Z","text":"我乐见由于你们的努力，让郭案翻盘，只是希望渺茫","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe158f7f050e90be0e7d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q3f26e9f578068fcc3ca3","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":636,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-07T06:17:00.882Z","text":"检方违规办案被证明后，违规办案产生的证据和衍生证据将会被排除，排除后，剩下的证据能否让合理的陪审团认为被告有罪，就由法官通过判例来决定。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f26e9f578068fcc3ca3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qccaa3a1343144efcd9e5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":637,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:17:08.145Z","text":"黄老师的看法可能代表了海外体制内人士的看法，可以理解，但是纵观历史来看，好多大案的翻盘都是微不足道的小事小人物触发的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccaa3a1343144efcd9e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4cd828b71830d85e0207","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":638,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:17:32.486Z","text":"怎么废？用他自己拉出来的便便，让他自己吃回去？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9827fbe2c9f8e9b3b29b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cd828b71830d85e0207","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9827fbe2c9f8e9b3b29b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0d591275e6b85cfe54f5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":639,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:18:30.793Z","text":"老郭破产及不认罪是两大败笔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d591275e6b85cfe54f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q45b0d4cb311b3250b3f2","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":640,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:18:54.066Z","text":"若认罪估计20年上下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45b0d4cb311b3250b3f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q805e95946c03ab01e066","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":641,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:18:54.451Z","text":"黄老师水平果然是可以的👍 老郭破产 确实是一把尖刀 刺向了自己。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d591275e6b85cfe54f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q805e95946c03ab01e066","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d591275e6b85cfe54f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":642,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:19:37.138Z","text":"证明违规办案这个事情我们很难证明吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f26e9f578068fcc3ca3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f26e9f578068fcc3ca3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q05ded64702ae3779859e","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":643,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:19:39.037Z","text":"当时没人能劝阻他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ded64702ae3779859e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb1a58ca398f7ceddef9e","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":644,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:19:53.008Z","text":"传唤他上庭，让他自己解释他的代理协议是怎么签了这么多人的。他有没有履行他的协议。他引用cvra 是怎么回事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4cd828b71830d85e0207","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1a58ca398f7ceddef9e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cd828b71830d85e0207","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5e15bbe31c2fc9410cb3","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":645,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:19:59.746Z","text":"你给我稍安勿躁！！！！ 我明天把报告发出来！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e15bbe31c2fc9410cb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7b93b2b76b5f9305cbf2","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":646,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:20:41.444Z","text":"黄老师听说过“毒树之果”吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05ded64702ae3779859e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b93b2b76b5f9305cbf2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ded64702ae3779859e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q9383251241405a9ff156","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":647,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:20:43.068Z","text":"那我就必须以853介入了吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1a58ca398f7ceddef9e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9383251241405a9ff156","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1a58ca398f7ceddef9e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd89c429937fd284d1a75","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":648,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:21:04.643Z","text":"853肯定没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9383251241405a9ff156","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd89c429937fd284d1a75","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9383251241405a9ff156","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd008231def674b43557d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":649,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:21:07.361Z","text":"没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7b93b2b76b5f9305cbf2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd008231def674b43557d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b93b2b76b5f9305cbf2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1356d3e514957f08b321","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":650,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-07T06:21:39.247Z","text":"没那么难，本群已经找到很多了。文件729也点出来了。法庭现在的形势，只要律师履行职责，调查核实第三方点出的证据提交到法庭，可以证明上诉有极大可能无罪释放，可以申请保释了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1356d3e514957f08b321","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q9fd7dc9efae68c4f5540","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":651,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:21:53.742Z","text":"黄老师 我觉得您可能被那些法律专家忽悠了🤣  倒不是他们说的错  而是他们只告诉了你一半","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fd7dc9efae68c4f5540","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q550db07449d7190b8111","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":652,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:22:05.919Z","text":"如果用CVRA，我连指责他用CVRA的资格都没有，因为我自己也用了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd89c429937fd284d1a75","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q550db07449d7190b8111","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd89c429937fd284d1a75","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa36a4cf2acf6bfa6b7e1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":653,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:22:25.611Z","text":"说白点就是龙生龙凤生凤，要是黄鼠狼只能生豆处子，错误的论据产生的一切结果都是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd008231def674b43557d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa36a4cf2acf6bfa6b7e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd008231def674b43557d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1b5a4f8185a8d6ec8892","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":654,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:22:36.867Z","text":"［用户 goh***］ 我告诉你明天我把报告发出来 一切你都知道了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b5a4f8185a8d6ec8892","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6830fa09249d554881c1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":655,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:22:42.181Z","text":"整个程序应该没大问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6830fa09249d554881c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd01020d45cfac7e73861","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":656,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:22:57.007Z","text":"好，等你明天发出来🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc645b501bfc9875e49cd","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd01020d45cfac7e73861","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2a4a2786370a48812d04","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":657,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:23:11.415Z","text":"这一点想请教黄老师 关于程序问题 黄老师有和专家探讨过吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6830fa09249d554881c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a4a2786370a48812d04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6830fa09249d554881c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa440c8b8be466399872d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":658,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:23:21.957Z","text":"错误的论据产生的一切结果都是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd008231def674b43557d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa440c8b8be466399872d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd008231def674b43557d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":659,"speaker":"hua***","date":"2025-09-07T06:24:06.555Z","text":"郭的律师团还是比较厉害的，也是敬业的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a4a2786370a48812d04","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a4a2786370a48812d04","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q531debee62738d406c33","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":660,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:24:38.071Z","text":"黄老师 您可能真的被骗了… 郭的律师团 幼儿园水平都没有……","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q531debee62738d406c33","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5d27e7b844bb47204233","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":661,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:25:03.484Z","text":"是有点别扭，但是有个前提，你是被他欺骗代理做的Cvra ，他不能代表你的真实意见，你自己引用Cvra 是为了向法庭表达你的真实意图","edited":false,"reply_to":"q550db07449d7190b8111","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d27e7b844bb47204233","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q550db07449d7190b8111","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q13cf330f6eba421c6a3a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":662,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:25:21.390Z","text":"靠律师团，别逗了，我们只能靠自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13cf330f6eba421c6a3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa37a81bfdd4a3912899f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":663,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:25:59.398Z","text":"明天我会出一份报告 还请黄老师过目 我的报告是博士水平 郭所有律师加起来都只是小学水平","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa37a81bfdd4a3912899f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q581081f80ff9a53951e9","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":664,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:26:45.558Z","text":"用这个说法去引用CVRA是不是就很合理了 ［用户 rui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5d27e7b844bb47204233","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q581081f80ff9a53951e9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d27e7b844bb47204233","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qac72e4686c9964d6bc11","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":665,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:27:00.587Z","text":"当然可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"q581081f80ff9a53951e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac72e4686c9964d6bc11","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q581081f80ff9a53951e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa1d85c5c6186c2662545","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":666,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:27:19.357Z","text":"爱谁谁 谁引用都无所谓的 关键是引用后你干啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1d85c5c6186c2662545","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0974b27a496d5b2fd60a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":667,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:28:04.488Z","text":"［用户 hua***］ 到时候我的报告出来 还请黄老师让法律专家解读 🙏","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0974b27a496d5b2fd60a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8a6a8ae46f0bcc3e280c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":668,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:28:18.998Z","text":"这话从何说来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a6a8ae46f0bcc3e280c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qea424f5c715c4e339dd7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":669,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:28:32.623Z","text":"我觉得盖尔的问题还真不是他引用了CVRA，而是联盟农场还有喜交所和他有共谋的嫌疑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q550db07449d7190b8111","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea424f5c715c4e339dd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q550db07449d7190b8111","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q391572278333d61dce5a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":670,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:28:53.870Z","text":"有道理，Luc检方我干不过也没材料，我就干盖尔去 哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1d85c5c6186c2662545","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q391572278333d61dce5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1d85c5c6186c2662545","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5b6182d0b088b4cb95e1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":671,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:29:25.676Z","text":"你们记住引用受害者的一个思路： 当你要说的东西 超越853权限的时候 你就要引用受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b6182d0b088b4cb95e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb8bb9f2e6ef4bdf4ef00","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":672,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:29:38.810Z","text":"郭自己说对律师团不满意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8bb9f2e6ef4bdf4ef00","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8afe77b594ad62a4a801","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":673,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:29:51.435Z","text":"如果你要说的东西 没超853的权限 你就不用引受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8afe77b594ad62a4a801","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2c19f88ee1f7c40e0842","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":674,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:30:23.018Z","text":"你没有证据，也不可能拿到证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea424f5c715c4e339dd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c19f88ee1f7c40e0842","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea424f5c715c4e339dd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5dbcc3172b37b70bf1ec","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":675,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:31:12.305Z","text":"证据一大堆，只要法官不枉法，很容易证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dbcc3172b37b70bf1ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd2e5ff324202a024ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa77439fb1dd57511fc71","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":676,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:32:07.642Z","text":"［用户 goh***］  我可以提前透露给你 这不是政治案 也不是诈骗案 这是美国建国以来最严重的一起 司法欺诈案","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa77439fb1dd57511fc71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1e7ebaae69a1d998f790","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":677,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:33:16.206Z","text":"这个名字我喜欢，也很贴切，确实就是司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa77439fb1dd57511fc71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e7ebaae69a1d998f790","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa77439fb1dd57511fc71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4965859e117563ac0b32","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":678,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:33:32.021Z","text":"联盟推荐盖尔的视频还有喜交所推荐盖尔的邮件就是证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c19f88ee1f7c40e0842","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4965859e117563ac0b32","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c19f88ee1f7c40e0842","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qaa418a437bc94b8fd52b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":679,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:33:39.612Z","text":"黄老师到时候可以做期直播，好好谈谈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0974b27a496d5b2fd60a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa418a437bc94b8fd52b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0974b27a496d5b2fd60a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qdcf1b43c8cef92010144","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":680,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:34:07.856Z","text":"对的 如果有必要的话 我个人也可以上直播和黄老师对谈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa418a437bc94b8fd52b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcf1b43c8cef92010144","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa418a437bc94b8fd52b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q127a85695cd8bf827d13","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":681,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:34:18.899Z","text":"当然，引用Cvra只是他的犯罪手段","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea424f5c715c4e339dd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q127a85695cd8bf827d13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea424f5c715c4e339dd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6edfb8f6654235238a2a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":682,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:35:13.517Z","text":"黄老师看过文件700的庭审记录吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6edfb8f6654235238a2a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa5ac451dcd25b10e4439","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":683,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:35:58.683Z","text":"盖尔还有一个问题是他从来没征求过他代理的客户的意见，就擅自作出决定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5ac451dcd25b10e4439","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe3fad9ee21cc8a595c24","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":684,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:36:18.238Z","text":"但是好像他那个合同就是大授权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3fad9ee21cc8a595c24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe3b2f442cc3e5b4fa9f7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":685,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:36:57.293Z","text":"你看看当时法官和郭的对话就知道辩护律师怎么样了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3b2f442cc3e5b4fa9f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5156da9060d9f2416ccb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q222b2411266c9c1c9ce6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":686,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:37:24.686Z","text":"盖尔的真正问题不是在引用CVRA，而是在庭审前让几千人代理，进去要求解冻资产。然后才有了陪审团的判决喜交所是诈骗\n现在的问题是木已成舟，我这逻辑没有错吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q127a85695cd8bf827d13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q222b2411266c9c1c9ce6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q127a85695cd8bf827d13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q190b0f7a0e68f284ae90","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":687,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:37:49.943Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1964578218167718334?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q190b0f7a0e68f284ae90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q05e57bc9f644ee06d515","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":688,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:39:05.687Z","text":"这个法官就是托雷斯吧？ ［用户 rui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe3b2f442cc3e5b4fa9f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05e57bc9f644ee06d515","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3b2f442cc3e5b4fa9f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa5ba250d794ca51403c8","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":689,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:39:22.612Z","text":"当然","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05e57bc9f644ee06d515","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5ba250d794ca51403c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05e57bc9f644ee06d515","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0787b577d60674850088","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":690,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:40:06.544Z","text":"所以，现在看起来法官的提问也是带着暗示的，说给辩方听的，你看看你们干的好事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5ba250d794ca51403c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0787b577d60674850088","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5ba250d794ca51403c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6f77c15b1b523ff3ab41","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":691,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:40:29.646Z","text":"有切入点吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q190b0f7a0e68f284ae90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f77c15b1b523ff3ab41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q190b0f7a0e68f284ae90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qa8613a2bec25e49d77d3","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":692,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:40:49.730Z","text":"等到明天 ok？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f77c15b1b523ff3ab41","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8613a2bec25e49d77d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f77c15b1b523ff3ab41","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe8fdf1b2eeb48ae4e285","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":693,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:41:11.060Z","text":"好的，等多3天都没有问题，但是一个星期太长了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8fdf1b2eeb48ae4e285","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb86b31e0efb9f1ce6852","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":694,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:41:25.063Z","text":"我说的一个星期就是从明天开始","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8fdf1b2eeb48ae4e285","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb86b31e0efb9f1ce6852","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8fdf1b2eeb48ae4e285","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q59b711ab048fe9521cb0","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":695,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:41:27.103Z","text":"你明天开个推特直播搞讲座吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8613a2bec25e49d77d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b711ab048fe9521cb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8613a2bec25e49d77d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0cb380023a02e8c136d6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":696,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T06:42:53.022Z","text":"我还是等我动议发出去之后再公开","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cb380023a02e8c136d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q319563da828c9005f31a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":697,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T06:43:56.809Z","text":"你怎么胜算大怎么来\n我去提交我自己的Pro Se了\n不给它搞一下绝对不行，反正案子已经到这种地步了\n坏也坏不到哪去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0cb380023a02e8c136d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q319563da828c9005f31a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cb380023a02e8c136d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q345427634ee5a4c3c90e","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":698,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:44:25.061Z","text":"对，正是上传成功之后","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0cb380023a02e8c136d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q345427634ee5a4c3c90e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cb380023a02e8c136d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2b3cc71ac02fe87bb53c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":699,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:45:19.054Z","text":"周一应该又有一批文件上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b3cc71ac02fe87bb53c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qbe397c3c543f4a712048","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":700,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:51:50.798Z","text":"法庭现在上传的文件有几个都是一周以前的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe397c3c543f4a712048","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc3e321350562507f902d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":701,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:52:05.857Z","text":"48小时的说法已经不适用了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3e321350562507f902d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4658231161da1ee9767b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":702,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T06:54:35.225Z","text":"728是密封的？是不是跟涂黑类似，可以要求法院密封","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4658231161da1ee9767b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qea4698a2830741e64271","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":703,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:56:05.687Z","text":"密封就是整个动议都看不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea4698a2830741e64271","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1de57b80c470b9479ddd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":704,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-07T06:56:19.916Z","text":"涂黑只是有一些信息被涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1de57b80c470b9479ddd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6942df7a2b585e87c755","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":705,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T07:02:05.383Z","text":"不过密封的也一样能提交证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea4698a2830741e64271","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6942df7a2b585e87c755","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea4698a2830741e64271","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qbb3b9bf3ecff6875c989","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":706,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T07:02:18.489Z","text":"第三方能要求密封吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb3b9bf3ecff6875c989","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb860b7f9f424dcb3293f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":707,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-07T07:07:26.317Z","text":"黄河边，在这个时候来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb860b7f9f424dcb3293f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q324263b7cbc0979ee837","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":708,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-07T07:10:08.295Z","text":"郭先生举的例子 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忽悠得不轻啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8151e6de954f7327079","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06a178f77576b4fabc79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qad863300c62a162abd54","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":714,"speaker":"she***","date":"2025-09-07T08:49:24.354Z","text":"应该是国内法律专家","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad863300c62a162abd54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8f59b71b90b57492a344","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":715,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-07T09:59:15.084Z","text":"黄河边又来了。也不验证一下身份。开𠆤口说说话有那么难吗？它的领导想太多了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f59b71b90b57492a344","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q850e1a512fbbbde702dd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":716,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-07T10:07:05.796Z","text":",郭还年轻 习都没几年活头了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q850e1a512fbbbde702dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q741aee21d0cd8dd7fa4a","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":717,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T10:22:25.113Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1964635147011293289?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q741aee21d0cd8dd7fa4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb4cf3f328b824dee0a32","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":718,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-07T10:47:31.702Z","text":"看看联盟农场这些[屏蔽词]还能折腾多久。看看他们会不会回国和我一起打螺丝","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4cf3f328b824dee0a32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qba4d634bdf86ac843fae","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":719,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T10:53:27.320Z","text":"你准备准备出来的事儿吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4cf3f328b824dee0a32","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba4d634bdf86ac843fae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4cf3f328b824dee0a32","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q188f5264024015a8ab4f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":720,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-07T12:01:05.047Z","text":"他是我 见过最恶心的网红。无缘无故就想骂他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q741aee21d0cd8dd7fa4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q188f5264024015a8ab4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q741aee21d0cd8dd7fa4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q3c78a3e788a4c0fe0b13","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":721,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T12:01:59.966Z","text":"https://x.com/mubeitech/status/1964462850484949399?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c78a3e788a4c0fe0b13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q83ab0e98f3f6dfd6793f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":722,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T12:02:15.963Z","text":"墓碑科技现在明白过来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83ab0e98f3f6dfd6793f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qdc90914913bae471b211","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":723,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:20:42.261Z","text":"盖尔在第二版动议里明说了，这点也被龚大郎拿去四处宣传","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd72c58a6d754defc5ad1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc90914913bae471b211","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd72c58a6d754defc5ad1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2105b0f84f45e3e8f32e","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":724,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T12:35:38.037Z","text":"回头给他好看的，第二版动议是几号文件？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc90914913bae471b211","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2105b0f84f45e3e8f32e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc90914913bae471b211","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcfd8e8ae6489fd6d60c8","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":725,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:38:34.890Z","text":"肯定会翻案的，拭目以待","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfd8e8ae6489fd6d60c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f842049b4e68c17e5cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q852e443a7f91d77a5a52","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":726,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:39:23.608Z","text":"506","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2105b0f84f45e3e8f32e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q852e443a7f91d77a5a52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2105b0f84f45e3e8f32e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q686c705374fbfb2f8503","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":727,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T12:40:35.003Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2105b0f84f45e3e8f32e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q686c705374fbfb2f8503","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2105b0f84f45e3e8f32e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q143472101b1fc52f10a2","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":728,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:41:33.171Z","text":"盖尔动议成功被检方利用去支持欺诈指控，也迷惑了陪审团，让陪审团以为真有3000多个受害人（盖尔引用的cvra）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q143472101b1fc52f10a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe6ea7cb5d3d28b10f448","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":729,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:43:59.665Z","text":"1:23-cr-00118-AT 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漏掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q686c705374fbfb2f8503","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6ea7cb5d3d28b10f448","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q686c705374fbfb2f8503","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe1786e54543f38ee618b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":730,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T12:47:58.081Z","text":"盖尔最早引用CVRA是哪个文件？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q143472101b1fc52f10a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1786e54543f38ee618b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q143472101b1fc52f10a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qbfc53cfd14ffbcb44a7d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":731,"speaker":"xio***","date":"2025-09-07T12:50:15.750Z","text":"那个49星球发出的第三方意见可不可以搞，我和他投资差不多，也是农场借贷，G俱乐部和喜币还有凤凰农场的GTV投资","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfc53cfd14ffbcb44a7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q08728c8e672aa4caf6ac","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":732,"speaker":"xio***","date":"2025-09-07T12:50:38.884Z","text":"我没有填一次表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08728c8e672aa4caf6ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8b0ea5904fe9c176c6c4","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":733,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:52:02.551Z","text":"这里有个逻辑问题，你既然引用cvra，说明你自己认为自己是受害人，如果你在自诉里对法庭说你不认为自己是受害人，那么你就不具备引用cvra的资格，法庭完全可以不采纳你的自诉，那么你的自诉文件很可能会步螺丝哥后尘，法庭以审查为借口，不给你上传到系统里，因为cvra的核心还是强调你的受害人地位。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7361455e0b9b5baf3954","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b0ea5904fe9c176c6c4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7361455e0b9b5baf3954","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe570a7807e7129a0108d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":734,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T12:53:52.899Z","text":"我反复查了CVRA就是不能引用，一旦引用其实就是你认为被告犯罪的事实，然后说再多都很难改变这条。除非你有非常骚，远与常人的操作技能。普通人基本不可能有这本事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe570a7807e7129a0108d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc9fb22693b5d6dcf7534","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":735,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T12:53:54.783Z","text":"第二次要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1786e54543f38ee618b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9fb22693b5d6dcf7534","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1786e54543f38ee618b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb63afa9fdaede5b7326e","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":736,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T12:54:04.989Z","text":"478","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63afa9fdaede5b7326e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc7262f1bb808846c9f10","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":737,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:55:21.282Z","text":"如果法庭认可你的受害人地位，那么你就进入了受害人名单里，正式成为了七哥的受害人，走向了七哥的对立面。一旦进入了受害人名单，你是无法否定自己的受害人身份的，你能做的就是不再继续参与案件的审理，但是无法否定客观上被法庭认可的受害人地位。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b0ea5904fe9c176c6c4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7262f1bb808846c9f10","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b0ea5904fe9c176c6c4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf94dcf5b078c129d947f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":738,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T12:56:09.508Z","text":"对，👍 是这样，各位都可以查查，看来我这么多天骂瑞恩小逼没白骂🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe570a7807e7129a0108d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf94dcf5b078c129d947f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe570a7807e7129a0108d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q82418ada4b6b146417dd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":739,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T12:58:21.002Z","text":"我一开始也以为盖尔出问题是CVRA这里，其实不是，他一开始介入案子要求退钱这个事可能是真正误导陪审团认定郭先生和喜联储一起诈骗的根本原因\n他是真正的帮凶，不是CVRA那么简单，CVRA是在案件审理完后他自己再次提出来的\n他在非常不合适的时机要钱，影响了陪审团对喜联储这部分案件的判断","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82418ada4b6b146417dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1d2a4be219d6a5b9f9b1","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":740,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T12:58:23.481Z","text":"也很简单，你的动议里全是打检方打其他被代理的受害人就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe570a7807e7129a0108d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d2a4be219d6a5b9f9b1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe570a7807e7129a0108d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qaafc8bf95d93e34a804d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":741,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:01:41.915Z","text":"不对，他是在第一版引用的cvra介入，当时是3000多人，是在开庭之前，盖尔引用cvra介入的行为，被检方拿去支撑欺诈指控了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82418ada4b6b146417dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaafc8bf95d93e34a804d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82418ada4b6b146417dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q54a232e6fe2d251531dc","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":742,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:02:08.605Z","text":"告诉我文件号","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaafc8bf95d93e34a804d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54a232e6fe2d251531dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaafc8bf95d93e34a804d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcbf717cabcaba314129d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":743,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:02:49.531Z","text":"478","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54a232e6fe2d251531dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbf717cabcaba314129d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54a232e6fe2d251531dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf02962b197b7b9eb8259","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":744,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T13:03:39.706Z","text":"链接看看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfc53cfd14ffbcb44a7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf02962b197b7b9eb8259","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfc53cfd14ffbcb44a7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q3bc592aa17e40daefe1e","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":745,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T13:04:57.672Z","text":"他是合同欺诈，他没有旅履行他的承诺","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82418ada4b6b146417dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bc592aa17e40daefe1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82418ada4b6b146417dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qe6b4f4e1ac52f19b7a72","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":746,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T13:05:18.183Z","text":"他说要找司法部解冻资金而不是跑这来索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6b4f4e1ac52f19b7a72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7ee2e54fd62b342b5717","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":747,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T13:06:15.561Z","text":"其实很简单 受害人可以说 luc和检方双重不当行为 放着债权人两年不管 一直都在侵害受害人利益","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe570a7807e7129a0108d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ee2e54fd62b342b5717","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe570a7807e7129a0108d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q787098d6a5a1f6350105","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":748,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T13:06:25.532Z","text":"思路都在这里了\nhttps://x.com/testurheart/status/1948857346991817066?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q787098d6a5a1f6350105","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd0c2a9b273498dce6b99","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":749,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T13:06:36.033Z","text":"你不用提被告怎么害你了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0c2a9b273498dce6b99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q74311d2cca09bf110070","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":750,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T13:06:55.180Z","text":"受害人的权限 检方 luc 害你 难道就不能提？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74311d2cca09bf110070","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q73f2aa96626c5b898e5d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":751,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:07:24.951Z","text":"478号是11月25, 2024上传的，那时候案件已经审完啦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f2aa96626c5b898e5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6fd5e539854e796ba656","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":752,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:11:23.849Z","text":"嗯，感觉有用，有文件号吗？你这图看不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q787098d6a5a1f6350105","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fd5e539854e796ba656","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q787098d6a5a1f6350105","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfbe5898b23d0275a253b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":753,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:11:46.678Z","text":"检方在第一版起诉书里已经明确了受害人的范围，只不过没有公布详细名单（因为指控的时候没有详细名单，需要新老诈骗联盟去搜集（盖尔的作用）。）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe5898b23d0275a253b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qdbb2e088b32d4a346cd7","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":754,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:12:33.533Z","text":"盖尔就是起的误导陪审团，同时后补受害人的作用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbe5898b23d0275a253b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbb2e088b32d4a346cd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe5898b23d0275a253b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb1a695265a9c33cd98ec","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":755,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T13:13:03.697Z","text":"有高清图下载","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6fd5e539854e796ba656","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1a695265a9c33cd98ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fd5e539854e796ba656","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb7f0879db9676f48e607","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":756,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:13:33.767Z","text":"检方第一版起诉书里说的受害人范围：\n\n1、GTV 私募\n在 2020 年 4 月 20 日或前后至 2020 年 6 月 2 日左右，价值约 4.52 亿美元的 GTV 普通股出售给了5，000多名的投资者。\n\n2、农场贷款项目\nKWOK郭、JE吉和他们的同谋者通过“喜马拉雅农场联盟”骗取了超过约 1.5亿美元受害人资金。\n\n3、G|俱乐部\nKWOK郭、JE吉及其他已知和未知的人以欺诈手段引诱KWOK郭的追随者将额外资金转移到一个名叫G/俱乐部— 一个号称为在线会员的俱乐部。从至少在2020年10月左右到至少在2023年3月左右，KWOK郭、JE吉和其他人通过G|俱乐部，欺诈性地获得了超过约 2.5 亿美元的受害人资金。\n\n4、喜马拉雅交易所\nKWOK郭、JE吉和其他已知和未知的人通过 Himalaya Exchange喜马拉雅交易所欺诈性地获得了超过约2.62 亿美元的受害人资金","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbb2e088b32d4a346cd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7f0879db9676f48e607","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbb2e088b32d4a346cd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q467eb026950ccff1c5ec","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":757,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T13:13:50.779Z","text":"盖尔是定罪前还是定罪后出来的？ ［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdbb2e088b32d4a346cd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q467eb026950ccff1c5ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbb2e088b32d4a346cd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8b73e32d76ae895e9e36","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":758,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:13:59.528Z","text":"但是GTV早就和sec和解，GTV这部分是无罪的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b73e32d76ae895e9e36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q496bf99a05f3ffae3034","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":759,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T13:14:47.581Z","text":"定罪前","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q496bf99a05f3ffae3034","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd4212c0a4d70867daf67","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":760,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-07T13:15:06.096Z","text":"我记得是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4212c0a4d70867daf67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q7b98b2504c3554b23e40","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":761,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:18:09.801Z","text":"367和395是吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1a695265a9c33cd98ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b98b2504c3554b23e40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1a695265a9c33cd98ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q245c6295a48aac94da08","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":762,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:18:45.574Z","text":"农场借贷项目、gclub、hex三个部分的参与者，都给分配了0.1购买喜币的资格，投资一万美元，我记得最少有1000个币吧？用100美元购买。\n\n也就是你投资10100美元，获得1000个币，doj冻结喜交所账户的时候，币价在24美元，doj冻结之前hex是正常经营的，可充值、可提现，投资人如果按10100美元投资金额计算，收益是24x1000=24000美元，可以直接卖币提现，没有任何人亏损，欺诈链条根本无法闭环，没人亏损哪来的欺诈？而且七哥被抓之前，任何人说要退款，都能退款，哪来的欺诈？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q245c6295a48aac94da08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":763,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:24:21.586Z","text":"所以他们利用喜交所的冻结，收集了填表人，然后用填表人误导陪审团，最后判郭先生有罪，最后在以案件以喜交所喜联储是诈骗工具为由彻底关掉喜交所，然后再用盖尔收集的人当受害者。这就是打法，我的理解","edited":false,"reply_to":"q245c6295a48aac94da08","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q245c6295a48aac94da08","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcdcba27f93aaa93e435c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":764,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:25:10.828Z","text":"👍 大差不差","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdcba27f93aaa93e435c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf0de2c962ccb12f0c205","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":765,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:26:00.441Z","text":"为什么那么多共谋犯，检方只抓七哥，其他的共谋不去抓？😜","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0de2c962ccb12f0c205","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q637eb9f26fe2bc401fa5","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":766,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:26:04.762Z","text":"盖尔这环很关键，没有这环检方都玩不成“闭环”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q637eb9f26fe2bc401fa5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8c1010d660b3f2964aaa","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":767,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:27:06.008Z","text":"这条可能没用，美国很多案件都是这么搞的，因为经费问题，抓大放小，似乎经常这么干","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf0de2c962ccb12f0c205","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c1010d660b3f2964aaa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0de2c962ccb12f0c205","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q2bebd7de838d84b0873f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":768,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:28:26.359Z","text":"真要说欺诈，是当时的长岛联盟欺诈，核币核了[屏蔽词]几年，各种造假凭证，小鸟一个人能造20个身份去坑币，横着核币竖着核币转圈儿核币，就是[屏蔽词]核不清楚，不给大家发币🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bebd7de838d84b0873f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qbcd3bcf5fc531efbc9f3","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":769,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:29:26.052Z","text":"理是这么个理，如果抓了，还怎么派人（小sarah、龚大郎等）去制造“受害人”🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c1010d660b3f2964aaa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcd3bcf5fc531efbc9f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c1010d660b3f2964aaa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf4a2713d841970c8f427","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":770,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:31:22.673Z","text":"郭先生的案件是几号开始审的，谁告诉我下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4a2713d841970c8f427","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q9323837d831df27026ee","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":771,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:31:42.542Z","text":"这个问题你问问机器人吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9323837d831df27026ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q8da4b7ce9a8cc0721454","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":772,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:33:59.527Z","text":"有道理，2024 年 5 月 22 日（星期三）上午 9:00 开始的 7月16日结束","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8da4b7ce9a8cc0721454","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q94188da4f1083e0d7384","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":773,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:38:32.772Z","text":"再问一个问题，喜交所被政府关闭是哪一天，当时的喜币价格是多少，最低到多少？需要这些数据 谢谢🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94188da4f1083e0d7384","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5cb00446780485d83a4b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":774,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:38:42.684Z","text":"这里还漏掉了luc的作用，从他违规当受托人开始，就做了一系列的坏事，luc刚开始是想用藐视法庭把七哥抓进去的，只不过后来因为债权人登记的事情，给闹大了（1000多人登记）。luc手里还有好几亿美元呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cb00446780485d83a4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c1097d7f2532aab6313","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qced6a7a6cd33471f6557","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":775,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:39:02.315Z","text":"盖尔在视频里原话：24美元","edited":false,"reply_to":"q94188da4f1083e0d7384","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qced6a7a6cd33471f6557","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94188da4f1083e0d7384","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q28d3490c9edf943eb1ca","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":776,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:39:34.176Z","text":"有原始视频吗？需要链接","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28d3490c9edf943eb1ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q5dc10296dec734fe359b","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":777,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:41:47.003Z","text":"1分25秒","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28d3490c9edf943eb1ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dc10296dec734fe359b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28d3490c9edf943eb1ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd314263cfb3c95703517","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":778,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:42:17.771Z","text":"有没有网上直接可看的链接？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd314263cfb3c95703517","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qcf4e8f67ddcdbb30c760","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":779,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:42:35.000Z","text":"自己搜搜吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf4e8f67ddcdbb30c760","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q15876e3ef2a73ea49b9f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":780,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:42:50.109Z","text":"你在哪里搜的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15876e3ef2a73ea49b9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf3891c51f41b86e5e9d8","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":781,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T13:43:59.905Z","text":"我之前存好的，准备拿去自诉用的🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3891c51f41b86e5e9d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qf09b5aa41371882beccc","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":782,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:52:30.263Z","text":"这个文件有给陪审团看吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5dc10296dec734fe359b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf09b5aa41371882beccc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dc10296dec734fe359b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qb2c4ea9e9aa90b814bd4","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":783,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:53:50.651Z","text":"这货的这个动议，绝对是误导陪审团定罪的重要原因","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c4ea9e9aa90b814bd4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q1e73d817aa1a8fff823f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":784,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T13:56:38.361Z","text":"存入HDO的钱在白皮书上说的其实已经不归你所有，你可以兑换，但是白皮书上说的是喜联储可以不给你兑换，而郭先生一直宣传的1:1储备，最后就误导了陪审团认为这财产是你的。事实上这财产确实应该算是你的，只是喜交所的白皮书处理很成问题。但是最后把罪名扣向了七哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https: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Luc、盖尔、检方、辩方律师、联盟关键人物、大V 整了一个完整的网，把我们这些小白全给玩的团团转。缺一方他们就玩不下去，真是大手笔","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeab4a388fbaa8eef071d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9613e3fce8c80b0568cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeab4a388fbaa8eef071d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6fa756985a63d6ce24ec","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":790,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T14:14:33.431Z","text":"七哥怎么宣传，那是七哥个人的问题，七哥不在hex任职，不领取hex薪水，和hex没有任何的资金往来，和hex没有任何实质上的利益关系，你作为投资人（用户）在hex里面买卖数字币，无论盈利还是亏损，那是你和hex的问题，七哥没拿hex一分钱，怎么能是欺诈呢？无法形成欺诈闭环呀？而且你在hex里面的钱，始终都是你的啊，是因为检方的违规操作，才给你的资产造成了损失，这个罪名怎么能扣到七哥头上呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e73d817aa1a8fff823f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fa756985a63d6ce24ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e73d817aa1a8fff823f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":791,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T14:16:39.421Z","text":"你要不用这个去打？ 我到现在都不知道检方是怎么让陪审团相信七哥和HEX是捆绑一起的\n苦于没有证据\n我要是七哥我就踢了HEX，但是七哥不想这么做，可能就是需要我们这些第三方去打回这场战\n七哥估计也没法说出这个口，只能靠我们来说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6fa756985a63d6ce24ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fa756985a63d6ce24ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qc81677a9fad3c802e55f","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":792,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T14:18:58.673Z","text":"你天天吹川普币牛逼，川普币赚大钱，快买川普币，实际上你没有一个川普币，你也和川普币没有任何的利益关系，你的一群粉丝听你的买了川普币，然后币价上涨还赚了，能说你欺诈吗？能说川普币是你的欺诈工具吗？检方能把川普币冻结吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc81677a9fad3c802e55f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q35943fe722218c662227","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":793,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T14:20:35.166Z","text":"你可以参考729文件，结合自己的实际情况，以及在群里学到的一些point，跟机器人探讨一下，实事求是的阐述事实，问出你的疑问，提出你的要求，打算让法庭给你什么救济","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35943fe722218c662227","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q4c01706209f96174217c","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":794,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T14:20:52.308Z","text":"没收成功不了，不是政府想没收就能没收的，被告不承认钱是自己的，第三方纠纷一大堆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa06ae8f44e4c0a728da3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c01706209f96174217c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa06ae8f44e4c0a728da3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q0abb538a465955986f34","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":795,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T14:21:27.175Z","text":"别和我说，你只要能证明 七哥和HEX是两个独立，你就赢了，不用跟我说\n我一直想把William Je和七哥分开，可惜我真不知道他们之间是啥毛关系\n我看好你哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc81677a9fad3c802e55f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0abb538a465955986f34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc81677a9fad3c802e55f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q98a51a63a1e6e9a1c1dd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":796,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T14:21:48.568Z","text":"我只是举个例子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0abb538a465955986f34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98a51a63a1e6e9a1c1dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0abb538a465955986f34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q6375fcf233edf335089d","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":797,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-07T14:22:04.990Z","text":"陪审团还不如咱们知道的多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6375fcf233edf335089d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7a9259ee31c4d7c90be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"q503939c297ea5ad9d084","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":798,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-07T14:22:08.958Z","text":"你看好瑞恩🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0abb538a465955986f34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q503939c297ea5ad9d084","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0abb538a465955986f34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qfc1a5cfdfdc6d4cfd2a9","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":799,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T14:22:58.393Z","text":"说实话我连喜联储主席是谁都不知道，后来一查才知道是William Je\n这货居然和七哥一起被起诉。真的是一点话语权都没有，完全不知道他是干啥的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc1a5cfdfdc6d4cfd2a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"},{"id":"qd7fddeae59aad73d82a6","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":800,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-07T14:23:57.713Z","text":"你们我都看好，我就是吆喝一下，我是那个智障","edited":false,"reply_to":"q503939c297ea5ad9d084","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7fddeae59aad73d82a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q503939c297ea5ad9d084","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000032","next_batch_id":"batch-000034"}