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742 是伪联盟农场最后的反击吗？这也算是暴露了他自己吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18de3afcd2606dcb5f84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qdf99278ed81cc65f60ab","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":407,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-11T16:19:39.563Z","text":"［用户 rui***］  瑞恩咋滴了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf99278ed81cc65f60ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q524f90ea04904b0b4206","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":408,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-11T16:23:09.205Z","text":"共谋犯是掌握着咱们投资的人，那些管理层，那些上庭作证、认罪坑害七哥的人。\n是掌握着联盟农场的权利和金钱的那些人。\n法庭要查这还不好查吗，一个就可以牵出百个。查组织架构，查钱，一查一个准。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb61be78f982e743f0b04","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q524f90ea04904b0b4206","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qdd8a84546f3040c5e1de","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":409,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:30:30.247Z","text":"472是噤声受害人 威胁受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd8a84546f3040c5e1de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q30b8b658de4ba575e419","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":410,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:30:57.456Z","text":"他还说 只有政府的remission才算受害者 这就是胡编乱造 对所有受害人都要噤声","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30b8b658de4ba575e419","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf9958d26495f6f490007","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":411,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:33:30.046Z","text":"他那幾張圖明顯就是共犯做的，首先把作證的都打成做爲證. 就和那位匿名把所有pro se立場和733差不多的都打成假受害者並且要爲郭翻案的一模一樣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39bdb7ae19fce169cad5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9958d26495f6f490007","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bdb7ae19fce169cad5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qc02f34e4a165dd5582cf","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":412,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:34:43.098Z","text":"remission是真的受害者這點不假, 但是，不是只有remission才是受害者，他們陰險的就在這，他們想把錢從remission之前就先拿走( 因爲這群王八羔子根本就不符合remission的資格）","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30b8b658de4ba575e419","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02f34e4a165dd5582cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30b8b658de4ba575e419","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qcc31239159aed891cd8d","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":413,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:35:17.800Z","text":"我意思就是这个 他的意思就是第三方介入受害者都不算数","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc02f34e4a165dd5582cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc31239159aed891cd8d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02f34e4a165dd5582cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qef6f3fca2bbc7452e8ad","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":414,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:35:28.079Z","text":"这不就是对所有第三方介入受害者的威胁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef6f3fca2bbc7452e8ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qda4c39b920c16e1e18f8","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":415,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:35:50.503Z","text":"而且不符合程序","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda4c39b920c16e1e18f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q11ee8e6a0f8e3ddf7fd6","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":416,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:36:01.489Z","text":"我知道你什麼意思, 他們現在最怕的就是我們把ancillary給搞黃了，直接進入remission了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc31239159aed891cd8d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11ee8e6a0f8e3ddf7fd6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc31239159aed891cd8d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q56d29e05870b26ad2d2a","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":417,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:36:30.977Z","text":"不是 他们怕的是整个没收程序取消","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11ee8e6a0f8e3ddf7fd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56d29e05870b26ad2d2a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11ee8e6a0f8e3ddf7fd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q2c7dafaebea445ae7c3b","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":418,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:36:50.780Z","text":"就像我在733说的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c7dafaebea445ae7c3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qe69e88282e63f3beed76","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":419,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:36:51.127Z","text":"remission就是沒收後才進行的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56d29e05870b26ad2d2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe69e88282e63f3beed76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56d29e05870b26ad2d2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qe38fb1b735a555b2e83b","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":420,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:37:14.350Z","text":"ancillary是在沒收前把錢先分給這些人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe38fb1b735a555b2e83b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q070c661adc54ed8cbc0e","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":421,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:38:43.077Z","text":"暂停没收程序 并指派第三方接管财产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q070c661adc54ed8cbc0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q4d13f87815a19f3e9370","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":422,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:38:52.146Z","text":"我們不斷發言同時也是在法庭上增加，他們是共犯並且不是受害者的證據，（因爲他們做的事情實際上在更進一步加害受害者）","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56d29e05870b26ad2d2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d13f87815a19f3e9370","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56d29e05870b26ad2d2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qc04d3158bb250b96fde4","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":423,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:39:47.189Z","text":"錢怎麼樣子都會到DOJ認可的第三方那的，只是多或少的問題","edited":false,"reply_to":"q070c661adc54ed8cbc0e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc04d3158bb250b96fde4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q070c661adc54ed8cbc0e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q182f55ae79aba2f9d742","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":424,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:40:27.840Z","text":"他們現在做的就是要在錢到第三方之前，把錢能搶多少就算多少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q182f55ae79aba2f9d742","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q0c0fbf02e7895c7beb26","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":425,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:41:00.328Z","text":"所以他們是非常恐懼和733同一立場的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c0fbf02e7895c7beb26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q53bddcd2c1293c398951","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":426,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:42:03.580Z","text":"但这样的人不会太多 毕竟大家都套着“受害者”的紧箍咒","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c0fbf02e7895c7beb26","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53bddcd2c1293c398951","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c0fbf02e7895c7beb26","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q1d75e318729c804162ae","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":427,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:42:10.823Z","text":"我就是看穿了这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d75e318729c804162ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qb0126f662215885faa86","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":428,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:42:24.339Z","text":"受害者在这个案子里面 就是皇帝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0126f662215885faa86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q37076ce037cf641c2b9c","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":429,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:42:30.193Z","text":"其實很多，主要是大家不知道可以這樣寫","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53bddcd2c1293c398951","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37076ce037cf641c2b9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53bddcd2c1293c398951","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qce476fe8e5eae10569fd","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":430,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:42:54.351Z","text":"我能这样写 最关键的是 我发现了检方欺诈并附上了报告","edited":false,"reply_to":"q37076ce037cf641c2b9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce476fe8e5eae10569fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37076ce037cf641c2b9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q12e27c213a0fd2108cde","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":431,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:43:10.350Z","text":"否则就是胡乱指控","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12e27c213a0fd2108cde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qfe80d9862914949ded88","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":432,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:43:11.400Z","text":"733的立場等於=認爲郭是騙子的受害者=不認爲郭是騙子的受害者=只想那回錢的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe80d9862914949ded88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q586236d9722d336f4fd8","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":433,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:43:41.613Z","text":"我没懂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe80d9862914949ded88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q586236d9722d336f4fd8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe80d9862914949ded88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf893d9309031aef615bd","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":434,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:44:13.735Z","text":"733的立场只有一个 就是受害者被被告影响也就算了 你检方伙同luc还来诈骗我两年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf893d9309031aef615bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qab7bf86511b6034cf8ed","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":435,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:44:22.189Z","text":"這3類人都不想luc和聯盟的幫兇把錢從他們口袋拿走","edited":false,"reply_to":"q586236d9722d336f4fd8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab7bf86511b6034cf8ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q586236d9722d336f4fd8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q9d057ebce912259e9a26","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":436,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:44:31.290Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab7bf86511b6034cf8ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d057ebce912259e9a26","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab7bf86511b6034cf8ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q1eb0753336d390cfc801","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":437,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:44:32.607Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1eb0753336d390cfc801","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q059b91a497a10e6854aa","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":438,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:44:43.922Z","text":"你寫出來了，大家就知道原來可以這麼寫","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q059b91a497a10e6854aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q62e04b7b632ca7323a7f","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":439,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:45:35.417Z","text":"大家都被套上了紧箍咒","edited":false,"reply_to":"q059b91a497a10e6854aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62e04b7b632ca7323a7f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q059b91a497a10e6854aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qaf4661e34dd332382c5f","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":440,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:45:39.953Z","text":"思维局限","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf4661e34dd332382c5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qdc82eca8aa2fe0dc2cd0","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":441,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:45:47.457Z","text":"其实受害者的骚套路远不止如此","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc82eca8aa2fe0dc2cd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q53d649f1c1c8a2d939a3","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":442,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:45:51.584Z","text":"我以后会给大家演示的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53d649f1c1c8a2d939a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qe700d84275cd28539f1a","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":443,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:46:03.295Z","text":"不是, 主要是大家根本搞不清楚pro se的角色和可以幹什麼","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf4661e34dd332382c5f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe700d84275cd28539f1a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf4661e34dd332382c5f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q33c82c00abfc552d6bd7","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":444,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:46:13.463Z","text":"也能这么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe700d84275cd28539f1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33c82c00abfc552d6bd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe700d84275cd28539f1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q59f5b9f200840314b814","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":445,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:46:27.952Z","text":"受害者在这案子中 就是皇帝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f5b9f200840314b814","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qa501f47277fd90d5e8ca","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":446,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:47:46.666Z","text":"DOJ和凍結資產就是管remission的, 如果你pro se ancillary嚴格來說你和luc，聯盟幫兇都是一個角色，都是要錢的，你的對手其實是凍結資產和DOJ","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa501f47277fd90d5e8ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q21e648237af8e6688496","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":447,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:48:42.329Z","text":"是的，因爲只要你是victim不管是ancillary或是remission錢都給victim的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59f5b9f200840314b814","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21e648237af8e6688496","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f5b9f200840314b814","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q22d25a4fa9a8d712201e","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":448,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:49:40.345Z","text":"所以 因为这个 luc非法要抢我的钱 检方纵容两年 我就可以打","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa501f47277fd90d5e8ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22d25a4fa9a8d712201e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa501f47277fd90d5e8ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q75934a5bcd13309fe121","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":449,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:50:37.407Z","text":"指控幫兇的證據不在法庭，只在DOJ那，那些作證的受害者也是在DOJ那，所以爲什麼luc和幫兇敢ancillary","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75934a5bcd13309fe121","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q0566f1b241d0a8538ad8","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":450,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:50:40.184Z","text":"受害者如果都像我这样  希望老郭关到死的就吐血了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0566f1b241d0a8538ad8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q3ac738b9cfd8ace6ddce","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":451,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:51:13.434Z","text":"所以当有人把这些捅到法庭 游戏就结束了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75934a5bcd13309fe121","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ac738b9cfd8ace6ddce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75934a5bcd13309fe121","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qda2ea5ab75710cd04af1","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":452,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:51:52.688Z","text":"现在非常考验托雷斯作为一个法官的智慧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda2ea5ab75710cd04af1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf849a834b09164690e02","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":453,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:51:54.041Z","text":"都統到法庭那大家就只能去doj和凍結那通過remission要錢了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ac738b9cfd8ace6ddce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf849a834b09164690e02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ac738b9cfd8ace6ddce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q321ab22d9db113d6538c","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":454,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:52:19.682Z","text":"但是這裏DOJ可是會看你是不是真的受害者和是不是幫兇的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q321ab22d9db113d6538c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q488ec51899e9c208675b","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":455,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:52:35.570Z","text":"你的意思我理解了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf849a834b09164690e02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q488ec51899e9c208675b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf849a834b09164690e02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qa5122d30f2d51b9375e1","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":456,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:52:44.888Z","text":"就是ancillary 他们可以暗箱操作 对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5122d30f2d51b9375e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q098eec02a7bcb1091104","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":457,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:53:03.520Z","text":"我们一捅 他们这一步就做不到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q098eec02a7bcb1091104","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q2a440ce13d6300819f8c","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":458,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:53:12.746Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q098eec02a7bcb1091104","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a440ce13d6300819f8c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q098eec02a7bcb1091104","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q212facbf8a083e254d42","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":459,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:53:38.800Z","text":"欺诈法庭两年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q212facbf8a083e254d42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf29d63c0ff1f9cdd336c","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":460,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:53:43.598Z","text":"管你想干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf29d63c0ff1f9cdd336c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qd76c18e22312e5db46d8","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":461,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:53:46.045Z","text":"都给我滚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd76c18e22312e5db46d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qd2abf59667959577e1d6","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":462,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:53:59.212Z","text":"这是整个法庭首要的问题 其他的都靠边","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2abf59667959577e1d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qce3e89ebb56dca1b55d5","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":463,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:54:27.215Z","text":"而且没有什么新证据 欺诈法庭就在文件里面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce3e89ebb56dca1b55d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q06402cd5d2270cbbbe2d","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":464,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T16:55:02.527Z","text":"关键是要  认定luc 和 联盟 是 欺诈索赔。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab7bf86511b6034cf8ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06402cd5d2270cbbbe2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab7bf86511b6034cf8ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qea56713ef2e2299fc701","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":465,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:55:11.253Z","text":"不希望老郭關到死的只有挺郭的受害者了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0566f1b241d0a8538ad8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea56713ef2e2299fc701","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0566f1b241d0a8538ad8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qb40134182995a985c4fb","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":466,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:55:17.065Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea56713ef2e2299fc701","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40134182995a985c4fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea56713ef2e2299fc701","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q79810f7c9b9d9988a446","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":467,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:55:19.841Z","text":"對的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06402cd5d2270cbbbe2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79810f7c9b9d9988a446","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06402cd5d2270cbbbe2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qec61b05df54b8f82aa90","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":468,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:55:48.563Z","text":"实际上 挺郭砸郭 根本不是受害者的分辨方法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec61b05df54b8f82aa90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf1e919294c7de4952155","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":469,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:56:04.621Z","text":"但是官司都到ancillary和remission這一步了基本上翻案的機率等於0了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb40134182995a985c4fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1e919294c7de4952155","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40134182995a985c4fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q2bc92d1f9fc3e9a392eb","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":470,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:56:20.350Z","text":"那要看你闹的大不大了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1e919294c7de4952155","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bc92d1f9fc3e9a392eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1e919294c7de4952155","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q45836c1063b65bd34ed1","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":471,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:56:43.467Z","text":"现在对托雷斯来说就是两难","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45836c1063b65bd34ed1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf0e0e0128ca39d98020b","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":472,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T16:56:54.961Z","text":"你怎么知道是 0  法律依据 还是case 依据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1e919294c7de4952155","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0e0e0128ca39d98020b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1e919294c7de4952155","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q97a303376d0d19e23f53","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":473,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:57:07.846Z","text":"欺诈法庭 明显就是在案卷里面 有人捅出来了 他如果强行量刑 她的下场她也知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97a303376d0d19e23f53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf2acb8158b39f4cd6053","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":474,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T16:57:43.465Z","text":"J6  以后 会不会被翻案？  虽然牢都坐完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2acb8158b39f4cd6053","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qa3dec448f16c27049125","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":475,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:58:10.678Z","text":"最后说不定量刑会判个0年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3dec448f16c27049125","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qc7f52c2d812aa55d9420","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":476,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:58:17.241Z","text":"實際很複雜的，有挺郭的受害者, 認爲郭詐騙的受害者，有聯盟的幫兇和共犯，有只想要回錢的受害者，有打醬油無關的砸鍋的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qec61b05df54b8f82aa90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7f52c2d812aa55d9420","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec61b05df54b8f82aa90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qdce2ee0fe1096d028d44","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":477,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:58:48.767Z","text":"J6和這個是完全不一樣的，那是政治事件，但是裏面的人也都做了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2acb8158b39f4cd6053","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdce2ee0fe1096d028d44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2acb8158b39f4cd6053","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qacc1ba2f893adf3bc8f6","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":478,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:59:00.689Z","text":"受害者就是受害者 检方这一点说的没错 因为老郭钱被冻结 那你就是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7f52c2d812aa55d9420","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacc1ba2f893adf3bc8f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7f52c2d812aa55d9420","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q41d070e5bd527db13775","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":479,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T16:59:16.898Z","text":"但你是受害者 和你挺郭没有半毛钱关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41d070e5bd527db13775","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qc038bf3e5cf7d8a3cbb2","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":480,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T16:59:29.664Z","text":"不管什么事件，历史上有没有 翻案 过 ？ ？ 英联邦 case law  懂？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdce2ee0fe1096d028d44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc038bf3e5cf7d8a3cbb2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdce2ee0fe1096d028d44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qafa7d2addb6f300d25b9","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":481,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T16:59:42.327Z","text":"對的，只要你匯錢了就都是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41d070e5bd527db13775","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa7d2addb6f300d25b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41d070e5bd527db13775","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q6068950a87708b4d4f45","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":482,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:00:00.514Z","text":"翻案的前提是你老郭沒有詐騙也沒有洗錢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc038bf3e5cf7d8a3cbb2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6068950a87708b4d4f45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc038bf3e5cf7d8a3cbb2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q773e4f4a38680972d679","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":483,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:00:16.549Z","text":"那些不懂的人天天说受害者什么什么 就是怕我这样的受害者去闹事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qafa7d2addb6f300d25b9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q773e4f4a38680972d679","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa7d2addb6f300d25b9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q37c4506c7a4512bdd2fc","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":484,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T17:00:26.217Z","text":"我问，别的案件  任何案件  有没有 翻案 过  这种 case  存在","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6068950a87708b4d4f45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37c4506c7a4512bdd2fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6068950a87708b4d4f45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q1b4ecd96d61008f731a1","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":485,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:00:30.034Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6068950a87708b4d4f45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b4ecd96d61008f731a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6068950a87708b4d4f45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q770d80b418023e75ddd3","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":486,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:00:41.444Z","text":"翻案的前提是检方系统性程序错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q770d80b418023e75ddd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q1a98203ac761d7512fde","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":487,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:00:48.273Z","text":"现在已经坐实了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a98203ac761d7512fde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qa5c18d8f165275f3ca2c","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":488,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:00:58.407Z","text":"所以我说托雷斯 进退两难","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5c18d8f165275f3ca2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q5ad19b313a34fca0ccba","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":489,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:01:00.647Z","text":"老郭怎麼樣都會被罰洗錢和詐騙的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ad19b313a34fca0ccba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q84111c5d9ae46a41ad5b","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":490,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:01:11.311Z","text":"我看不会","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ad19b313a34fca0ccba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84111c5d9ae46a41ad5b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ad19b313a34fca0ccba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qfbbaf262fe3795869310","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":491,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:01:15.687Z","text":"推翻全部定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbbaf262fe3795869310","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qeaf16f77b56518de27dc","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":492,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:01:26.311Z","text":"不會被推翻的，能推翻早就推翻了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbbaf262fe3795869310","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaf16f77b56518de27dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbbaf262fe3795869310","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q8ee086a2fd524ef3995b","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":493,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:01:35.643Z","text":"prosecution misconduct with prejudice","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ee086a2fd524ef3995b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qed1520ae91e30cca7c89","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":494,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:02:04.849Z","text":"这个案件检察官犯下了美国建国以来最严重的错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed1520ae91e30cca7c89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q73a97174e73435bbd4d2","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":495,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:02:16.486Z","text":"骗了法官n次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73a97174e73435bbd4d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q78f1c6b9551dea899907","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":496,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:02:20.756Z","text":"三级法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78f1c6b9551dea899907","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q0a0b887698649af1a588","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":497,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:02:27.068Z","text":"真能推翻，聯盟和余派就不會想通過ancillary要錢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a0b887698649af1a588","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qd55ff3a50555a88751ce","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":498,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:02:38.523Z","text":"这就是另一个话题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a0b887698649af1a588","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55ff3a50555a88751ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a0b887698649af1a588","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q984cb6bc253418b51369","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":499,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T17:03:01.150Z","text":"美国是 无罪推论，他现在是 有罪推论，螺丝哥 还说 要去提交 他没犯罪的 证明。 这本身 就是 不符合 美国司法常识的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6068950a87708b4d4f45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984cb6bc253418b51369","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6068950a87708b4d4f45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qe4f71b949ee331ad0ec6","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":500,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:03:22.889Z","text":"有可能检方的违规都是对老郭犯的 所以把老郭从里面摘出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4f71b949ee331ad0ec6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q9964a103b504a65c3970","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":501,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:03:35.455Z","text":"但这个案件一定是推翻的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9964a103b504a65c3970","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q9511a7a44518a1e02ad1","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":502,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T17:03:40.199Z","text":"他说自己无罪，应该是 你们提交 他有罪的 证据 才是正常程序","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9511a7a44518a1e02ad1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q938c9889210af4a173c9","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":503,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:03:44.461Z","text":"这个案件不推翻 美国司法就不存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q938c9889210af4a173c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qa943971425507268eff3","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":504,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:04:13.021Z","text":"这是美国建国以来最严重的司法欺诈案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa943971425507268eff3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qb0bb3475b09da6a46eac","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":505,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:04:48.526Z","text":"你們想太多了..... 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 啥事？ 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0bb3475b09da6a46eac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd679ded91af19247ad3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0bb3475b09da6a46eac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qed1b60115972da54baba","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":509,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:05:19.982Z","text":"郭炸没诈骗 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这个案件都要被推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb74f83b911b35bf26a6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qaad5d8e207f370b818ae","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":522,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T17:07:12.244Z","text":"［用户 rod***］  你认为农场主 是不是 诈骗犯？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad5d8e207f370b818ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qcc0c7fdd98640469fa90","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":523,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:07:22.505Z","text":"他們是幫兇","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaad5d8e207f370b818ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc0c7fdd98640469fa90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad5d8e207f370b818ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q32cbd4083be4575d2329","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":524,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:07:36.321Z","text":"我作为美国公民 有义务监督司法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32cbd4083be4575d2329","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q8e5fa5e5c180bd8cf6ab","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":525,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T17:07:41.308Z","text":"他们拿着钱跑了  只是帮凶？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc0c7fdd98640469fa90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e5fa5e5c180bd8cf6ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc0c7fdd98640469fa90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q8ac020b2586b5d06e4f3","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":526,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T17:07:49.825Z","text":"他们把钱 上交了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ac020b2586b5d06e4f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qf5e49e69672303fa3b61","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":527,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:07:58.497Z","text":"诈骗法官这种事情 如果还量刑 那是不可能的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5e49e69672303fa3b61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q935c5271488f9081c5c2","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":528,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:08:21.717Z","text":"你716被骗的人 有怨言 你只能去怪检方为什么这么[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q935c5271488f9081c5c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q52dbc5c945f6daf5ddb6","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":529,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:08:25.280Z","text":"让doj赔钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52dbc5c945f6daf5ddb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q4bd3caa55de0c1852a0d","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":530,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:09:28.510Z","text":"🤣 你這個邏輯很奇怪，騙我們錢的又不是檢方，我們的錢也不是投資檢方的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bd3caa55de0c1852a0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qa72bb4b985ba107ffc0f","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":531,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:09:51.384Z","text":"骗钱的不是检方 但因为检方诈骗法官 导致你们的钱本来没收 现在黄了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4bd3caa55de0c1852a0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa72bb4b985ba107ffc0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bd3caa55de0c1852a0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qd15da6c9af6c3ddb3aca","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":532,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:10:10.543Z","text":"检方作为政府方 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案件推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c2c4a9cc3070a8cb4b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q4f5e865369d477611bbd","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":569,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:16:59.420Z","text":"反正你說那麼多也沒用，反正都有法官判決","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5e865369d477611bbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q08bac69885ecd1ef2214","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":570,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:17:14.318Z","text":"所以我说现在就考验法官了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f5e865369d477611bbd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08bac69885ecd1ef2214","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5e865369d477611bbd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q04ec3d5bb963f25cfcfd","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":571,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:17:48.146Z","text":"你考驗個蛋, 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美国人认同吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b89ed35d9e6f95b5130","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q0abd0f3123b73d6357f5","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":575,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:18:19.628Z","text":"受害者认同吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0abd0f3123b73d6357f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q3f617ce650b4446468ac","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":576,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:18:30.344Z","text":"你有怨言就去令案起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f617ce650b4446468ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q351d0dd1ec6ec5ed7008","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":577,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:18:32.761Z","text":"游行抗议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q351d0dd1ec6ec5ed7008","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qa5bb7825e7d20fe053cf","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":578,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:18:43.704Z","text":"這個邏輯就和你不認同程序逻辑，我們認同程序逻辑，就是想要老郭牢底坐穿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a89d753ce37f27014ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5bb7825e7d20fe053cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a89d753ce37f27014ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q9cdd24da54c93fe65bee","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":579,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:18:59.596Z","text":"程序错误 推翻案件","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5bb7825e7d20fe053cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cdd24da54c93fe65bee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5bb7825e7d20fe053cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q4ac4e741414d4abe40d5","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":580,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:19:03.900Z","text":"法官不认同 都没用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ac4e741414d4abe40d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q0e4e52e310cf2f861e29","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":581,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:19:06.547Z","text":"别说受害者了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4e52e310cf2f861e29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q98f94b2d5da8500b2eef","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":582,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-11T17:19:39.001Z","text":"😂   有意思  我就喜欢看 瑞恩跟 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我理解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q361244f43a420ab3c1d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q0223db2ffcdba6ebdc18","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":592,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:22:27.209Z","text":"只能怪检方太[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0223db2ffcdba6ebdc18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qe487418d003f06358297","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":593,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-11T17:22:40.188Z","text":"我沒怨言啊, 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rod***］ 你犯的错误 和老郭律师犯的错误 一样","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f77019e6fe84e8320aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q8544fbf41e8f7131d8cf","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":597,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:24:10.143Z","text":"老郭律师 就是死抓案件逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8544fbf41e8f7131d8cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q208b4e325ca55d666b36","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":598,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:24:22.083Z","text":"什么检方这个没说明白 条件不够","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q208b4e325ca55d666b36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"qc6f40ed1bbf2924f0cb6","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":599,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:24:29.089Z","text":"那个没说明白 证据不足","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6f40ed1bbf2924f0cb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"},{"id":"q7f989461d58978b39276","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":600,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T17:24:31.910Z","text":"有个鸡吧用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f989461d58978b39276","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000035","next_batch_id":"batch-000037"}