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ntp***］ ［用户 rui***］ \n［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q29908dd1da6d957f022c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aa241b4d7c9a2967e60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29908dd1da6d957f022c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q8244552604111c630e91","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":2,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T15:42:42.698Z","text":"我也认为后面全都会挡下。 所以我们要放大招了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b3ba9c5c027087f5da6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8244552604111c630e91","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b3ba9c5c027087f5da6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q8ca7a1695494758bcf5c","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":3,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-21T15:44:13.828Z","text":"上个月23号，这个月22号，马上就到了。感觉得先上一版853才行，否则没机会再上853了。CVRA应该还有机会再上一版","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8aa241b4d7c9a2967e60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ca7a1695494758bcf5c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aa241b4d7c9a2967e60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q9155575e01abeafcf1f9","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":4,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T15:45:15.526Z","text":"这些怎么填，电话地址也必须填吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9155575e01abeafcf1f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe9fc54d385c3e4b1ee45","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":5,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T15:45:35.777Z","text":"今晚帮我搞定，发出去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ca7a1695494758bcf5c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9fc54d385c3e4b1ee45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ca7a1695494758bcf5c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb0649c6a9ebf12a42fde","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":6,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T15:47:32.532Z","text":"拦下来算是违法了吧，凭什么之前的让上，之后的就不让上了？这不是偏袒吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b3ba9c5c027087f5da6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0649c6a9ebf12a42fde","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b3ba9c5c027087f5da6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q50941d2f763624b28601","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":7,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T15:48:02.018Z","text":"要上都得让上啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50941d2f763624b28601","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qa273f050271a594e3c61","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":8,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-21T15:48:40.303Z","text":"美国是强者社会，别像个 要不到糖的孩子  就是干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa273f050271a594e3c61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q52b93d40aa6d07617907","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":9,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T15:49:11.450Z","text":"我觉得他们暂停会不会是踩刹车，让第三方的热情冷却一下，他们害怕越上越多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52b93d40aa6d07617907","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5b7f565697ae9fa59524","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":10,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-21T15:51:04.109Z","text":"参考一下这个，实务建议\n保留好所有递交凭证：邮寄收据、CM/ECF 电子确认、电子邮件回执；\n如果 30 天快到了，直接发给法官的 Chambers 并抄送 DOJ，确保有“送达”记录；\n一旦发现没上 docket，立刻提交 letter motion，要求法院确认 timely filed。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50941d2f763624b28601","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b7f565697ae9fa59524","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50941d2f763624b28601","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q74d233cf4b2c6b069895","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":11,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T15:51:21.586Z","text":"你就自己和机器人讨论一下，机器人比我们还专业。这群都是非专业的，自己代表自己。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8aa241b4d7c9a2967e60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d233cf4b2c6b069895","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aa241b4d7c9a2967e60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qc6ceb4f7aca0e871ecb7","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":12,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T15:54:16.026Z","text":"你们如果14天不让上 在美国的就上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6ceb4f7aca0e871ecb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd0aadcfca71ee254d693","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":13,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T15:54:29.664Z","text":"把诉状寄过去就行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0aadcfca71ee254d693","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd119ecd1c1bfeaa7f4bc","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":14,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-21T15:56:06.595Z","text":"你问AI，怎么才能避免被他们以不合规的方式拦下来，只要可能造成不合规的全得认真做，咱们所有人的信息老共都有，没有人没有，咱就和透明人一样，就差没有公开，只要不公开没人会来管你。螺丝哥都打明牌了，还是没人找他。郭先生真出不来的时候，我们可能都要遭殃了，他们怎么整我们都是可能的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9155575e01abeafcf1f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd119ecd1c1bfeaa7f4bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9155575e01abeafcf1f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6b350b01a590ad4071b0","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":15,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T15:56:28.916Z","text":"螺丝哥肯定要上诉的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd119ecd1c1bfeaa7f4bc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b350b01a590ad4071b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd119ecd1c1bfeaa7f4bc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q108a0e384f5968d6c46d","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":16,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T15:56:34.501Z","text":"他不让你上 你没有任何办法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q108a0e384f5968d6c46d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q897cc3fe5aa4f11693bc","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":17,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T15:56:44.786Z","text":"要么你放大招升级事态 要么上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q897cc3fe5aa4f11693bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qcf9cdba34d91e4404c1b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":18,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T15:59:23.348Z","text":"我告诉我大招库里面的一招狠的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf9cdba34d91e4404c1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qc03922bc6b2b5fc05ab3","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":19,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-21T16:00:44.515Z","text":"之前他们没意识到这样干会被我们把案子给掀翻了，估计发现我们不少人开始搞自诉，然后潜伏的CCP就给他们支招，让他们把我们都拦下来。于是临时工来了，法官认证是否符合853(n)也来了，他们同时上了很多招都是为了把我们挡下来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0649c6a9ebf12a42fde","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc03922bc6b2b5fc05ab3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0649c6a9ebf12a42fde","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q036cf94862aa7c381d71","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":20,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T16:02:49.807Z","text":"那法院招的临时工，有人去吗？\n能去个真战友里面工作是最好了。\n要是去个潜伏者就废了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc03922bc6b2b5fc05ab3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q036cf94862aa7c381d71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc03922bc6b2b5fc05ab3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qc8dbb7314531fb7416f5","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":21,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-21T16:04:02.012Z","text":"螺丝哥的这个自诉打破了联盟+大V+小羊他们一起布的局，他们是不想让案子有任何翻盘的机会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8dbb7314531fb7416f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qae20408cb4b1bee31c59","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":22,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T16:04:12.637Z","text":"这一招得先留着吧，等法庭有明显违规的时候才可以用。\n比如最终真的把我们都卡在外面算不算？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf29252a3ffd9436cdf35","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae20408cb4b1bee31c59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q84498f024a8a3213050b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":23,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T16:05:38.041Z","text":"他们这局的目的之一，就是要把投资者隔离在法庭之外。\n全靠忽悠。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8dbb7314531fb7416f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84498f024a8a3213050b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8dbb7314531fb7416f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb5a14235bb0637e234d0","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":24,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T16:05:44.380Z","text":"某动议14天不上传就可以安心食用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae20408cb4b1bee31c59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5a14235bb0637e234d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae20408cb4b1bee31c59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qfe45c15bcb14f43527ce","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":25,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-21T16:06:03.260Z","text":"只要发出来，有没有人去都不重要，你去上诉，他就有理由了，最后还是会帮你docket，只是给你多道拦截而已。去的是什么人根本不重要","edited":false,"reply_to":"q036cf94862aa7c381d71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe45c15bcb14f43527ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q036cf94862aa7c381d71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q606fae578b9346619393","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":26,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T16:08:53.295Z","text":"853n是不是可以简单点！？\n除了钱是我的，你们不能抢，还要说啥。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q606fae578b9346619393","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe873bf66e59c6d388029","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":27,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-21T16:11:04.304Z","text":"追根溯源，你们没有吸取  我们跟久指妖 长岛的 案件  教训，也没有吸取 王艳萍 300份 peition 消失的教训   😂  所以大陆人的骨子里 都是   自己没遭殃，就天下太平","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe873bf66e59c6d388029","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q7bd2a28c99313386886e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":28,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T16:11:31.300Z","text":"还是说，853和cvra两份写一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bd2a28c99313386886e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q3309c088af2533161449","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":29,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:11:59.477Z","text":"反了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90f749453c6ed61ff100","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3309c088af2533161449","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90f749453c6ed61ff100","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q103a2986789c5c5d3c52","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":30,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T16:12:33.046Z","text":"瑞恩查了说都可以提。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3309c088af2533161449","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q103a2986789c5c5d3c52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3309c088af2533161449","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q38b850850109d8d66091","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":31,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T16:13:22.327Z","text":"受害者不能提布雷迪，那是保护被告的。\n这不就是说cvra不能提布雷迪吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38b850850109d8d66091","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q67574abad452144f73e1","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":32,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-21T16:13:53.983Z","text":"说为什么Luc能抢钱，为什么检方维护Luc，他们有什么协议。钱不是郭的，他们得证明钱是郭的，才能没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"q606fae578b9346619393","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67574abad452144f73e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q606fae578b9346619393","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q48233dab1f06eba1c6f6","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":33,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:14:08.759Z","text":"利益冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe57101ebb7a74b4f0ab9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48233dab1f06eba1c6f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57101ebb7a74b4f0ab9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qcaea079ab2d15dfc7c8f","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":34,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-21T16:14:32.332Z","text":"咋利益冲突了 没明白  谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48233dab1f06eba1c6f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaea079ab2d15dfc7c8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48233dab1f06eba1c6f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q708a72b9c3758415877f","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":35,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:16:19.349Z","text":"要利用他们新旧势力斗争的心理，争取新势力的支持","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49e9d801e8bc71f7d841","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q708a72b9c3758415877f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49e9d801e8bc71f7d841","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q63c2d7f1ebdd04f31763","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":36,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:17:40.835Z","text":"同时抄送辩方何检方，这样更公平公开","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7ef9d62241cc9b53eef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63c2d7f1ebdd04f31763","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7ef9d62241cc9b53eef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q37d3fd62c4c345f05180","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":37,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:19:52.462Z","text":"一定要法官宣布他的代理协议无效","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc043a7969a34251f6454","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37d3fd62c4c345f05180","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc043a7969a34251f6454","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5015e5b0d24ce04dfccf","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":38,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:22:11.113Z","text":"853n给法院提必须走流程法院之友或者申请介入做当事人，否则会被资格不足驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":"q31695b908223fbd919ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5015e5b0d24ce04dfccf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31695b908223fbd919ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf21d9a700d08b8c3cdfd","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":39,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:23:43.984Z","text":"30天是政府发通知的时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29908dd1da6d957f022c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf21d9a700d08b8c3cdfd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29908dd1da6d957f022c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q3969b36cc2822a0b7f84","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":40,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:27:46.409Z","text":"有名字，联系方式就够了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9155575e01abeafcf1f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3969b36cc2822a0b7f84","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9155575e01abeafcf1f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q21592bc598fabbb5176e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":41,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:28:26.449Z","text":"这是违宪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0649c6a9ebf12a42fde","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21592bc598fabbb5176e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0649c6a9ebf12a42fde","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q448dc03ed1f366d2d432","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":42,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:30:17.186Z","text":"抓紧提交，提交了就有痕迹，上不上那是法庭的事，它敢违宪就让它试试","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b7f565697ae9fa59524","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q448dc03ed1f366d2d432","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b7f565697ae9fa59524","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q52cdf1040d75bd3f853d","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":43,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:34:47.164Z","text":"受害者提检方布雷迪违规，不是提布雷迪证据，就是受害者可以打检方","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38b850850109d8d66091","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52cdf1040d75bd3f853d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38b850850109d8d66091","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qff299cc0c5237ddab7a6","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":44,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:35:54.483Z","text":"853只能提跟钱有关的，想提布雷迪要绕很大的圈子靠上去，","edited":f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不是应该怎么写853 而是不让上 怎么办","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09167fe61c9bfa49865a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf68a1c5e13f1d3c7460b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":49,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-21T16:53:13.013Z","text":"都是检方的邮箱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8a70beff8431b31a90d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf68a1c5e13f1d3c7460b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a70beff8431b31a90d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q1a8773ada06a2ca3e92d","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":50,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T16:54:49.203Z","text":"问ai了吗，怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09167fe61c9bfa49865a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a8773ada06a2ca3e92d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09167fe61c9bfa49865a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q4373e85c49482aeabfc3","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":51,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T16:56:08.042Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1961986267018588394","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4373e85c49482aeabfc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb32ec825e134e2f10371","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":52,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T16:58:57.394Z","text":"几大骚操作 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853n里面","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee65e183f5549f0e9124","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fcc1ea927feef4b03c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee65e183f5549f0e9124","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q0d2fd159b60e9cb37efd","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":55,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:04:38.777Z","text":"现在不知道真行动的有多少人，看法庭反应应该不少，怎么组织起来上纸质动议呢？还有个很现实的问题，怎么保证法庭一定会上呢？邮件能赖，这个就不能了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4373e85c49482aeabfc3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d2fd159b60e9cb37efd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4373e85c49482aeabfc3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q747abf45d2f3cf7de69d","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":56,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:05:28.878Z","text":"提啊，他们要瓜分你的投资啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fcc1ea927feef4b03c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q747abf45d2f3cf7de69d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fcc1ea927feef4b03c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6f43b397bb5064377088","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":57,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:14:34.210Z","text":"必须14天吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6be23f264316f96010b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f43b397bb5064377088","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qbf3f2aa40ac2a68a533b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":58,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:17:32.906Z","text":"一共还有四周了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf3f2aa40ac2a68a533b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qa0b511f3bef69a7a5d31","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":59,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:21:47.490Z","text":"现在就开始准备吧，搜罗西方有影响力的的媒体的联系方式，邮箱，电话，推特，ins，到时候就是给他们喂料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0b511f3bef69a7a5d31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q83c0b5cd5091c02cde37","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":60,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:24:20.092Z","text":"只发司法系统的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f360018d5fa45d6101b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83c0b5cd5091c02cde37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qfff84d79eec44eed2075","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":61,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T17:31:57.845Z","text":"我还在。在修改。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q747abf45d2f3cf7de69d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfff84d79eec44eed2075","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q747abf45d2f3cf7de69d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q15878be1c3c7c6ef5a91","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":62,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:37:02.142Z","text":"你写个大意，其他交给ai","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfff84d79eec44eed2075","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15878be1c3c7c6ef5a91","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfff84d79eec44eed2075","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf9fd80f4b8ce94abef68","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":63,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:41:57.915Z","text":"现在电子邮件pro se不给自动回执了？那就保留好电子邮箱里发邮件的证据。如果你发纸质的，就保留好邮局给你的收据，或者挂号邮件的号码。现在为什么不给回执了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d2fd159b60e9cb37efd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9fd80f4b8ce94abef68","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d2fd159b60e9cb37efd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qce4579a05d57663df8dc","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":64,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:42:39.443Z","text":"没了，以前是秒回","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf9fd80f4b8ce94abef68","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce4579a05d57663df8dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9fd80f4b8ce94abef68","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q719337c48e00549b503c","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":65,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:43:10.526Z","text":"我艹，韩国人只是干黑人，咱们中国人直接干美国人了。只是他们用枪，咱们用法律，或者说用中国人的智慧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f9ded56ccded27c6acb","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q719337c48e00549b503c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd90ae3a708586cb49a92","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":66,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:44:05.772Z","text":"不给回执太奇怪了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd90ae3a708586cb49a92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6d64328a2c8123a9e6f2","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":67,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:44:16.887Z","text":"他们怎么做到的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d64328a2c8123a9e6f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb34aa14184d1780b1391","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":68,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:44:21.869Z","text":"被黑客了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb34aa14184d1780b1391","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q113cc42414e83352a441","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":69,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:44:31.104Z","text":"应该是把整个系统停掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd90ae3a708586cb49a92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q113cc42414e83352a441","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd90ae3a708586cb49a92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qcb56b191e93a668e3f11","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":70,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:45:44.972Z","text":"不可能吧, 南区法院又不是就这一个案子？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q113cc42414e83352a441","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb56b191e93a668e3f11","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q113cc42414e83352a441","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q84734c623de737b96ff0","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":71,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:46:00.862Z","text":"别的案子也不给回执了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84734c623de737b96ff0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qbcdf0266866f9badb945","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":72,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T17:47:43.814Z","text":"提了联盟农场和geyer，要提luc吧？\n他是最大妨碍吧。他把钱拿了我的钱不就没了吗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15878be1c3c7c6ef5a91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcdf0266866f9badb945","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15878be1c3c7c6ef5a91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q2027b4056f79653a977e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":73,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:48:52.498Z","text":"联盟组织的几个都要提","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbcdf0266866f9badb945","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2027b4056f79653a977e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcdf0266866f9badb945","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qca815620da5d9353989e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":74,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:49:08.384Z","text":"共谋犯组织的都无效","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca815620da5d9353989e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qa0efb00cc5c981ea20f3","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":75,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:49:16.033Z","text":"都是非法索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0efb00cc5c981ea20f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe0492aad443147e69e34","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":76,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:49:33.055Z","text":"哦，他们不给回执，是因为之前回执上说48小时不让上可以打电话问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0492aad443147e69e34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q55badfe3c35f524f7d6c","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":77,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:50:01.623Z","text":"现在48小时也不能给你上了，所以也不给你回执了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55badfe3c35f524f7d6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf7a70d85073dd7d4c78d","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":78,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:50:12.983Z","text":"你也别打电话了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7a70d85073dd7d4c78d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qab477826f013eb2f2c2a","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":79,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-21T17:51:14.628Z","text":"南区法院太搞笑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab477826f013eb2f2c2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf5b600b002edf8590c7e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":80,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:53:11.540Z","text":"对付流氓就得用流氓招数","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5b600b002edf8590c7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q7d5113ff1f4b6ec8ce02","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":81,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T17:54:03.732Z","text":"插眼，踢裆，踩脚趾","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d5113ff1f4b6ec8ce02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q8cbe9fe748812080a41e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":82,"speaker":"ntp***","date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A. Despins已花费投资者和/或受害者的巨额资金超过6000万美元，代表检方与Luc合谋欺诈法庭，直接造成投资者和受害者损失。\n这个可以说吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8093594cf0e34e7f557","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb5906fc21857e214fd16","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":84,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T18:03:33.760Z","text":"可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8093594cf0e34e7f557","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5906fc21857e214fd16","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8093594cf0e34e7f557","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qfdc85675044dd0d838ff","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":85,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T18:04:00.681Z","text":"不知道ai是怎么给我搞出来的。这是事实吧 6000万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdc85675044dd0d838ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qbe848d31f16d396add00","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":86,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T18:04:36.106Z","text":"说这个，我可得承担法律责任。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe848d31f16d396add00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qda939226434016d4ff92","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":87,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T18:04:52.171Z","text":"确保不能被ai蒙了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda939226434016d4ff92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5370d5e1909c601869ac","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":88,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T18:04:52.954Z","text":"那现在就准备着吧，大概率事件了，大伙儿都去搜集，所有美国司法系统的联系方式，有备无患","edited":false,"reply_to":"q034f8b12b2a20d6a5018","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5370d5e1909c601869ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf3e6cb5925eb6bd997ed","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":89,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T18:07:52.621Z","text":"跟钱有关的，都可以，853能说的cvra也能说，反过来就未必了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8093594cf0e34e7f557","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3e6cb5925eb6bd997ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8093594cf0e34e7f557","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q8d5691419896136f3d75","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":90,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T18:11:09.627Z","text":"这个机器人就知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5370d5e1909c601869ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d5691419896136f3d75","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5370d5e1909c601869ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q696330ea3ae55a35fe29","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":91,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T18:12:46.424Z","text":"这些布雷迪违规，如受害者动议（2025年提交）所述，可能允许无效债权人以牺牲真正投资人为代价获益，违反犯罪受害者权利法（18 U.S.C. § 3771）\n这句话合适吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q696330ea3ae55a35fe29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qef076d771ce2f6d600ae","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":92,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T18:13:30.442Z","text":"853n里说犯罪受害者权利法 是否合适","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef076d771ce2f6d600ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q16ecf233414812335f1a","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":93,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T18:16:28.893Z","text":"不要扯这些细节，检方布雷迪违规，不披露对被告有力证据就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef076d771ce2f6d600ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16ecf233414812335f1a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef076d771ce2f6d600ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qa992d86eda5b69193ccb","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":94,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T18:17:19.433Z","text":"你去看之前的动议，都是现成的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa992d86eda5b69193ccb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q892a4e551e2177323ce2","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":95,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T18:28:53.470Z","text":"问了好几次，gpt没确认这个6000万的事情，还是不提具体金额了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q892a4e551e2177323ce2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qdb9aca9d32276be07170","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":96,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T18:29:34.655Z","text":"直接引用724里律师的话就行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb9aca9d32276be07170","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd4a9fdd6f32b32d8b750","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":97,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T19:57:57.759Z","text":"是破产庭还是刑事庭的724","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb9aca9d32276be07170","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a9fdd6f32b32d8b750","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb9aca9d32276be07170","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd3f4a463b3998f000ec8","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":98,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:02:52.038Z","text":"牛啊 找到了。你们是咋能记住哪个文件里面具体内容的。\n这比七哥的律师强多了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb9aca9d32276be07170","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f4a463b3998f000ec8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb9aca9d32276be07170","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qbc8e4ba801fb5638b181","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":99,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:16:58.154Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ ［用户 rui***］ \n［用户 chu***］ \n太晚了都睡觉了吗？\n这个邮箱收件人是检察官？\n我还以为是发给法院，怎么回事。\n帮忙指导哈 时间不够了。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc8e4ba801fb5638b181","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6795fdfdbe0b0a648023","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":100,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:22:32.799Z","text":"明白了，ai几乎都能解答啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6795fdfdbe0b0a648023","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6d9b8ac59f345be78ffd","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":101,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:31:32.404Z","text":"认真看卷宗呗，不知己知彼，怎么跟他们干","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3f4a463b3998f000ec8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d9b8ac59f345be78ffd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f4a463b3998f000ec8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q157e75257aab1435c0f1","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":102,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:32:43.411Z","text":"动议发pro se邮箱，抄送检察官辩方律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc8e4ba801fb5638b181","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q157e75257aab1435c0f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc8e4ba801fb5638b181","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5e298e50e698757c9ad8","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":103,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:47:58.890Z","text":"我把涂黑版发给检察官和辩方律师。\n加密版和涂黑版两个发给法庭。\n可行吗？\n毕竟连检方我也提了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e298e50e698757c9ad8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6c87421c74f86e6c63f8","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":104,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:51:10.081Z","text":"我的动议没用实名，没考虑到这个问题。这个怎么处理呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e298e50e698757c9ad8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c87421c74f86e6c63f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e298e50e698757c9ad8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q3b367e446d10b4531732","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":105,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:51:39.913Z","text":"我问了ai，他说可以。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b367e446d10b4531732","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q69031abec99cfb41306b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":106,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:51:55.589Z","text":"先发涂黑的，声明如果法院需要请单独找你要，不知道行不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69031abec99cfb41306b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q3814aa4f8a7a0042b32c","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":107,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:52:27.818Z","text":"这就不是同时发送了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b367e446d10b4531732","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3814aa4f8a7a0042b32c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b367e446d10b4531732","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q24973686e80618860538","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":108,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:52:29.232Z","text":"估计不行，毕竟需要hid证明自己先。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69031abec99cfb41306b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24973686e80618860538","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69031abec99cfb41306b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q11e8ce05182532bf3df3","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":109,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:53:00.620Z","text":"必须要同一个邮件抄送吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3814aa4f8a7a0042b32c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11e8ce05182532bf3df3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3814aa4f8a7a0042b32c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q2a08286b592fd024abad","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":110,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:53:15.594Z","text":"Hid没问题，那个是加密的，我直接公开写的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a08286b592fd024abad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q50d5527996cc7cf2933b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":111,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:53:52.375Z","text":"让你抄送的目的就是同时告诉三方，但是保密的问题确实需要考虑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11e8ce05182532bf3df3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50d5527996cc7cf2933b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11e8ce05182532bf3df3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q37000853fa4325bb89f7","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":112,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:54:03.290Z","text":"你分开发就没意义了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37000853fa4325bb89f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qdc933dd5ba0c8b18fe7a","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":113,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:54:42.889Z","text":"那就先抄送涂黑版。后面单独追加一个给法庭加密版","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc933dd5ba0c8b18fe7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q30c628d4017b80d25ccf","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":114,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T20:55:00.612Z","text":"为何？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q37000853fa4325bb89f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30c628d4017b80d25ccf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37000853fa4325bb89f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q3bd61c556146bca0c060","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":115,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T20:55:54.374Z","text":"也行，邮件里写明，这个是公开版，后续会再发一个保密版给法庭仅用于法庭密封保存","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bd61c556146bca0c060","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb5a48da623ca17f47c20","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":116,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-21T21:09:10.305Z","text":"公开的一封，加密的一封，机器人可以保姆级喂饭，一步步教","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5a48da623ca17f47c20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q3d40bad927a8a9b818d6","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":117,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-21T21:10:13.138Z","text":"853一封公开，一封加密，然后再来一封CVNA，完美","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d40bad927a8a9b818d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd2ec408476cfdf16c72b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":118,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:12:53.513Z","text":"一定好好学用ai，免费的全能超级顾问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2ec408476cfdf16c72b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb547cc2a493748d5623a","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":119,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-21T21:17:25.023Z","text":"我花了二十刀用了chatgpt5,这样用起来没限制，我感觉我花这二十美元快把机器人累死了，问得我都不好意思，可他还毫无怨言地一步步教我，恐怕CCP弄这个案子时也没想到半夜杀出个程咬金（机器人），如果没有AI，我反正没本事写。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb547cc2a493748d5623a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb361f2e671660c0604b5","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":120,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:18:19.615Z","text":"我们占了天时，AI已经发展很成熟了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb361f2e671660c0604b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q82853a94f599ad6275b3","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":121,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:33:53.759Z","text":"是的，我深刻的感觉到了。\n我这四级都没过的人，居然有一天，能在美国的法庭上，和各位战友，和milesguo，并肩作战。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb361f2e671660c0604b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82853a94f599ad6275b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb361f2e671660c0604b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q3d433daf5446480b48a5","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":122,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:34:28.215Z","text":"我不花钱有什么限制没？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb547cc2a493748d5623a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d433daf5446480b48a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb547cc2a493748d5623a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf1bb80460af61e00f132","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":123,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:34:46.467Z","text":"我一直用免费的，足够了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d433daf5446480b48a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1bb80460af61e00f132","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d433daf5446480b48a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qda7ea79fcb9f190c8df6","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":124,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:35:54.489Z","text":"我该写的都写了，感觉不需要cvra了。\n还是说邮件内容可以一样，但立场必须有cvra才更有话语权？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d40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，他会不会早就被我问得不耐烦了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1bb80460af61e00f132","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32fd753fcad27614d859","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1bb80460af61e00f132","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5de46e7e85fb71d75234","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":126,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:39:11.773Z","text":"有些内容CVRA更有资格谈论","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda7ea79fcb9f190c8df6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5de46e7e85fb71d75234","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda7ea79fcb9f190c8df6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q339efa57a106e2d0c148","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":127,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:39:51.552Z","text":"你说检方违反布雷迪，这个跟853就不沾边，853只能提钱的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q339efa57a106e2d0c148","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe61078058466f51d058d","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":128,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:40:23.757Z","text":"所以法官很可能会以你资格不足，驳回指控","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61078058466f51d058d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qaa959623a75fec0a16c6","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":129,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:40:29.395Z","text":"这个邮件不提检方吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa959623a75fec0a16c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qce1577dba46330df451f","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":130,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:41:07.535Z","text":"提也要跟你的投资相关才行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce1577dba46330df451f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd6a2332bb262e9de68f3","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":131,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:41:37.361Z","text":"比如检方的什么行为影响了你的投资安全","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6a2332bb262e9de68f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q9cbac061307faf4d6ddb","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":132,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:41:46.187Z","text":"遭受了损失","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cbac061307faf4d6ddb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qeb6fcdade668cfa48fae","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":133,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:42:18.660Z","text":"你的动议要跟身份匹配","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb6fcdade668cfa48fae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q031cb75b7b4e4c6c6679","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":134,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:45:10.373Z","text":"他已经帮我委婉的修改了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q031cb75b7b4e4c6c6679","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf54447c2c555dfd9047c","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":135,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:47:47.330Z","text":"庭审期间，联盟总是说会无罪释放，那些视频谁能找到？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf54447c2c555dfd9047c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qccb89a39c7a95df3f1f4","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":136,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-21T21:47:58.498Z","text":"我先用grok写了很多天，然后想把证据翻译出来，我就用Gemini,感觉不行，然后用chatgpt,发现比Grok好很多，又改了好几天，好多图片，把我自己都搞晕了，然后就说次数到了，我就花了二十刀，非常非常好用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d433daf5446480b48a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccb89a39c7a95df3f1f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d433daf5446480b48a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/b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   •    检方对不利于被告的证据，收集极为完整、详细；\n    •    对于有利于被告、同时也有利于真正受害者的证据，却反复隐瞒：\n    •    例如，Luc 已接受部分 G 系列投资者的债权申请，这对所有投资者具有普遍意义，但检方却不向刑事法庭披露（见破产文件1191, 1334, 1335, 1345, 1346, 1347, 1357, 1367, 1380, 1388, 1393, 1394, 1418, 1433, 2274）。\n    •    被告在视频直播中明确反对追随者去受托人家人门口抗议，但检方仍坚持将这些行为归咎于被告。\n\n这种刻意隐瞒与选择性取证，严重违反了Brady义务，构成系统性的司法欺诈。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q978f8d9aa298198a979b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qb905bb82beb37a21b59e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":141,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:54:40.714Z","text":"这个说法对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb905bb82beb37a21b59e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe85f5ce227fda4c12c7c","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":142,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:55:07.328Z","text":"检方给Luc开绿灯让他来抢钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe85f5ce227fda4c12c7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qa8cbb6c7391272bc0fe8","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":143,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:56:01.653Z","text":"花20刀的gpt帮你把证据图片都给找齐了？不需要人工去找？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qccb89a39c7a95df3f1f4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8cbb6c7391272bc0fe8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccb89a39c7a95df3f1f4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q2babdd23d2ef3d67f646","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":144,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-21T21:56:35.391Z","text":"可以提，但要非常注意 方式与定位。我给你分析一下：\n\n⸻\n\n1. CVRA / 853 自述的核心\n    •    CVRA 自述：强调你作为受害者的权利被侵犯，比如被忽视、被歧视、被虚假债权稀释等。\n    •    853(n) 自述：强调你对被没收资产拥有“合法权益”，要求法院承认并保护你的权利。\n\n在 853 程序里，法院主要看的是：\n    •    你是否有合法的财产权；\n    •    你的权利是否优先于政府或第三方的没收请求。\n\n⸻\n\n2. 能不能写检方 Brady 违规\n\n严格来说，853 程序是民事性质的附属程序，核心是财产权，不是刑事程序的证据义务。但如果你写 Brady 违规，可以作为背景说明：\n    •    检方隐瞒有利证据（Brady 违规），导致 Luc 和虚假债权人进入程序；\n    •    因为这些虚假债权被放进来，才直接侵害了你对财产的合法主张；\n    •    所以，Brady 违规和财产损失之间有直接因果关系。\n\n这样写并不是让853法官去裁定“检方是否Brady违规”，而是强调：\n👉 检方的不当行为 破坏了你作为受害者/合法权利人的地位，使你的资产被不当转移。\n\n⸻\n\n3. 怎么写才合适\n\n在 853 自述里，你可以这样表述（举个参考句子）：\n\n“The government’s failure to disclose material exculpatory evidence (a Brady violation) has directly harmed me as a legitimate victim. By concealing critical evidence regarding the legitimacy of creditors, the government allowed the trustee (Luc) and fraudulent claims to enter the proceeding, which diluted and jeopardized my lawful property interest. Therefore, the forfeiture process has been tainted, and my rights under 21 U.S.C. § 853(n) must be protected.”\n\n这样就把 Brady 违规和 财产被侵害 联系起来了，而不是单纯在853里指责检方。\n\n⸻\n\n✅ 结论：\n你在 853 自述里 可以写 Brady 违规，但要作为 “导致我财产权被稀释的原因” 来说，而不是让853法庭去裁定检方是否犯罪。\n\n要不要我帮你写一个 专门针对 853 的精简版段落，把“Brady 违规 → Luc进来抢钱 → 我合法财产被剥夺”这个逻辑完整地串起来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf61142487d69661bc080","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2babdd23d2ef3d67f646","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q1e64bc0e5fbb6dfd70ca","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":145,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:57:19.313Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ ［用户 tut***］ ［用户 rui***］ ［用户 chu***］ \n写853n的，里面大家记得加上这句话。留着cvra的余地。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e64bc0e5fbb6dfd70ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qa350f4b687f998efc8f6","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":146,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T21:57:53.529Z","text":"连保留上诉你都可以提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa350f4b687f998efc8f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe34233c6c4c47130ffc9","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":147,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:58:00.404Z","text":"gpt已帮我改好了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2babdd23d2ef3d67f646","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe34233c6c4c47130ffc9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2babdd23d2ef3d67f646","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qde47faaaec4cc1905d48","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":148,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T21:59:03.800Z","text":"你先上，我们853n一交，接着crva就来。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fce3959aa532c386239","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde47faaaec4cc1905d48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q1ce6af017330b8adbaba","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":149,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-21T21:59:11.376Z","text":"733放上去是天助，后面写引用733就好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ce6af017330b8adbaba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qde62ff6560884c11318a","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":150,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T22:00:57.089Z","text":"照你这么说，发了853n之后，赶紧发cvra。\ncvra才是保命的护身符。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2c1afdbe3892443fd36","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde62ff6560884c11318a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q877f08d55188f655b4ef","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":151,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-21T22:01:38.501Z","text":"郭案观察者很厉害","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q877f08d55188f655b4ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q8897f4d70896bfb288ff","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":152,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T22:04:12.415Z","text":"853n我快捋好了，\ngpt也早就要帮我写cvra了。\n这ai太特么积极热情了，啥问题都想得周到。\n而且还特别会提供情绪价值，拍我马屁。高度赞同我的一些问题和想法。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q039dc71da2d090dae9c4","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8897f4d70896bfb288ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qeeade3fffb414ab80e09","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":153,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-21T22:06:01.714Z","text":"他们那个时候，那个智商，未必能发现受害者的牛叉，他们纯粹是担心我们上庭而已。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd47e4131190b70fcc27c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeade3fffb414ab80e09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q41065ec46e86f59fdea2","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":154,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T22:59:00.793Z","text":"这些人没啥用，现在是美国法庭那边要增加舆论压力","edited":false,"reply_to":"qac65d420eb2de9137ac8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41065ec46e86f59fdea2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q1771d4ada1ed7e5fe34b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":155,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T22:59:20.516Z","text":"美国这边改观了，华人自然就有人跟进了，有热度的东西谁不想要","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1771d4ada1ed7e5fe34b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5686c53a3c480510a804","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":156,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T23:23:09.293Z","text":"但是现在宣传会不会被法庭说成干扰司法？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb847ee34c1a5028837b6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5686c53a3c480510a804","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q90bf8b767a1dc435b44b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":157,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-21T23:24:11.126Z","text":"这不是干扰司法，咱们这仨瓜俩枣怎么可能有能力干扰司法！这是监督司法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5686c53a3c480510a804","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90bf8b767a1dc435b44b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5686c53a3c480510a804","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q906e78bf4da738cdcfb5","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":158,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-21T23:24:35.378Z","text":"口大口小，咱们说了不算，法官说了算","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90bf8b767a1dc435b44b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q906e78bf4da738cdcfb5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90bf8b767a1dc435b44b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf827b3949980a8a63da4","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":159,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T23:36:18.266Z","text":"我们不能去找媒体","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf827b3949980a8a63da4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q03e94bbdc8da03fc9d30","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":160,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T23:36:24.313Z","text":"要媒体主动来找","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03e94bbdc8da03fc9d30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q4d38cf408621262399fd","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":161,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-21T23:36:58.441Z","text":"你赢了之后，他们才会来找你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf827b3949980a8a63da4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d38cf408621262399fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf827b3949980a8a63da4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q11197ede9d425125d674","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":162,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-21T23:37:58.442Z","text":"先把司法行动做了再说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11197ede9d425125d674","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6c1812cd36afc3149394","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":163,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-22T00:05:43.612Z","text":"卧槽，螺丝哥能 明白美国这一点  厉害","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d38cf408621262399fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c1812cd36afc3149394","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d38cf408621262399fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q56b96ff8c2e15443cf61","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":164,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-22T00:06:04.547Z","text":"inner city 到今天都没鸟我","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b96ff8c2e15443cf61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q1872f8c05beee2ab69ce","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":165,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-22T00:06:53.012Z","text":"美国是利益社会  没有白嫖，你要先说 你能给他带来什么， 他才会听你讲  你需要什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1872f8c05beee2ab69ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q85f0d570e68a61565d4d","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":166,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:12:09.010Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  739/742是你写的吧🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85f0d570e68a61565d4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe83b9d1ea3a71ec68fce","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":167,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:12:17.415Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  还需要修炼🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe83b9d1ea3a71ec68fce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qde3ceb21c474cad3801e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":168,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:12:50.400Z","text":"但是我还是很尊敬你可以上法庭跟我对弈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde3ceb21c474cad3801e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q7e4d24723bf54fcb5b38","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":169,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:15:19.942Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 然后评价一下我的744把 😄","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e4d24723bf54fcb5b38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q8be8a1aa053b301de2c0","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":170,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:18:49.827Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 你之后还写吗 😄","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8be8a1aa053b301de2c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qee7e36bb6905c6ad464b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":171,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:18:56.812Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 我接受挑战","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee7e36bb6905c6ad464b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q85db5af956a82abed68b","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":172,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-09-22T00:24:43.332Z","text":"1. 檢方的矛盾行為\n   •   指控被告「鼓動債權人登記」= 妨礙司法 / 虛假索賠。\n   •   但破產受托人 Luc 代表的 1600 多名債權人大多數正是這些人。\n   •   檢方卻與 Luc 密切合作，從未反對其身份 → 自相矛盾。\n\n2. Brady 違規（隱瞞有利證據）\n   •   被告在公開視頻中明確反對抗議行為，但檢方忽視這一證據。\n   •   Luc 已接受部分 G 系列投資人，檢方卻將類似投資人視為「虛假索賠」。\n   •   對有利於被告的破產法庭文件，檢方選擇性隱瞞。\n\n3. 選擇性取證\n   •   對不利於被告的言論、文件 → 蒐集完整。\n   •   對有利於被告的證據 → 全部視而不見。\n   •   呈現方式存在嚴重偏頗，構成程序不公。\n\n4. 對受害者的忽視\n   •   合法受害者（包括作者本人）未獲應有保護。\n   •   檢方反而默許甚至支持可疑債權人索賠。\n   •   在受害者補償與資金優先分配上，檢方立場不一致。\n\n5. 結論與指控\n   •   檢方的行為可能構成 系統性的 Brady 違規 與 司法欺詐。\n   •   已對案件造成「不可挽回的司法災難」。\n   •   呼籲檢方正視受害者意見，並公開案件核心問題：\n      •   誰是真正受害者？\n      •   誰是共謀或非法債權人？\n      •   檢方是否履行了披露義務？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc3f913569e189e63aab","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85db5af956a82abed68b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6e68d7b28c762f2ad208","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":173,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-09-22T00:27:39.472Z","text":"luc但凡要钱就逃不开虚假债权人 现在luc冻结这些钱保护的都是虚假债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e68d7b28c762f2ad208","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q13c2d840acbab0d6ccfd","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":174,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-09-22T00:29:43.190Z","text":"受害者应该管luc要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13c2d840acbab0d6ccfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe2344c58c8973f9ae850","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":175,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-09-22T00:30:47.736Z","text":"而且受害者肯定优先债权人  但里面的帐 哪些是谁的钱 就是扯皮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2344c58c8973f9ae850","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6b663be0245d65981f07","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":176,"speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-09-22T00:31:14.190Z","text":"所以检方宣判之前不动luc的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b663be0245d65981f07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q0f19b7b74917af3559d8","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":177,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:37:56.792Z","text":"你們都跑到CVRA下面當受害者，這才是檢方期望看到的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f19b7b74917af3559d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q438198a70939636f5492","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":178,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:39:24.139Z","text":"如果你們一定這樣做的話，請參考Geyer的478，把自己的身分說清楚：財務受害人而廢本案欺詐受害人，即由於政府或受託人資產扣押之行為導致您的財產權益受到侵害，而不是本案被告造成的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q438198a70939636f5492","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q29741441ae14550e9d4e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":179,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:39:35.797Z","text":"你爹盖儿不就有几千受害者？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f19b7b74917af3559d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29741441ae14550e9d4e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f19b7b74917af3559d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd5c9ce6ec0736c405e38","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":180,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-22T00:40:16.355Z","text":"你说这法官为后台做事也不至于做和检方luc一起用虚假债权来对被告进行破产欺诈以及挥霍受害者的财产这么恶劣的事情吧，你后台这么牺牲我我也不愿意啊。那个luc跟这个法官是不是有什么私人交情，可否挖一挖。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5c9ce6ec0736c405e38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q94bcc76896f9367e517f","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":181,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:40:18.435Z","text":"本來最優的方式是所有第三方一起打Luc，結果這裡一小部分人為了自己私利，一定要瞎咬，為了自己成名。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94bcc76896f9367e517f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q2c71e8c40622ecf04de6","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":182,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:41:05.222Z","text":"你是个[屏蔽词] 你想老子跟你这个共谋犯共谋？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q94bcc76896f9367e517f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c71e8c40622ecf04de6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94bcc76896f9367e517f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q91da7125b5ccef6beb83","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":183,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:41:14.708Z","text":"Geyer維護喜交所利益、維護第三方利益，最多承認所代理的客戶為財務受害人，可惜你們不看原文。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91da7125b5ccef6beb83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q26ffe02fad94e7688787","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":184,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:41:37.070Z","text":"你是共谋犯 句号","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91da7125b5ccef6beb83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26ffe02fad94e7688787","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91da7125b5ccef6beb83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qf61782f4572da6021b75","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":185,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:42:05.169Z","text":"推薦並不構成違法，而代理關係以代理協議為準，而不是其他無關本案的視頻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf61782f4572da6021b75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qabeaf9d05a4be9864c26","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":186,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-22T00:42:10.123Z","text":"所有投资者都以受害者身份去说检方的极其恶劣的史诗级的系统性违规，被告不管有没有诈骗，都得驳回案件，且是不得再重新起诉的那种","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabeaf9d05a4be9864c26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qaa585129b5e233ebe5e0","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":187,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:43:27.335Z","text":"目前看Geyer是盡責盡力要求排除喜交所、喜交所客戶財產的，並且為喜交所正常運營而努力，你們看不到嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa585129b5e233ebe5e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q7ba4c6b034d3a21ecaab","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":188,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:43:43.901Z","text":"你是共谋犯","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa585129b5e233ebe5e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ba4c6b034d3a21ecaab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa585129b5e233ebe5e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qe99c126dda0389ff6d45","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":189,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:44:35.307Z","text":"想想什麼叫做無我利他吧，目前主要敵人是Luc，不要為了一己之私，為了成名而無邏輯地亂咬。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe99c126dda0389ff6d45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qdba567d12b95cb10f9e2","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":190,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:45:34.967Z","text":"當然所謂無我利他跟這群裡的一小部分人，一點邊都不搭，但我相信這群裡有很多真戰友，跟隨郭先生，明白該做什麼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdba567d12b95cb10f9e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q6e0396c8ee246fd010d7","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":191,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-22T00:46:09.494Z","text":"一个[屏蔽词]用合同欺诈的方式骗来了人们给它的授权，它不管用这个授权做什么，都只能是恶意的。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e0396c8ee246fd010d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5ba57105c4512088169e","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":192,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:46:10.075Z","text":"利用853n，與其他第三方一道，狠狠打擊Luc，這就是當下該做的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ba57105c4512088169e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qd258d6a76c6e502e903f","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":193,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:46:39.567Z","text":"利你妈了个逼 做这些事情 都是为了自己 狗屁利他就是你妈扯蛋","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe99c126dda0389ff6d45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd258d6a76c6e502e903f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe99c126dda0389ff6d45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q1af612fef681716549db","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":194,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:47:08.917Z","text":"合理利用目前的程序規則，而不是去濫用甚至破壞司法體系下的程序漏洞。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af612fef681716549db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q2efa86c814d715b94094","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":195,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:47:11.356Z","text":"老子是砸郭的 老子不可能跟你这个共谋犯 犯罪分子 一起犯罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdba567d12b95cb10f9e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2efa86c814d715b94094","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdba567d12b95cb10f9e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q91326311e81c49bf3913","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":196,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:47:35.289Z","text":"你就是想忽悠大家一起跟你们这群共谋犯犯罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1af612fef681716549db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91326311e81c49bf3913","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af612fef681716549db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q55b225de3335e19f70d0","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":197,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:48:23.460Z","text":"但我想更多的真戰友不是這個目的，他們才是真心想翻案的，而不是你心口不一","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55b225de3335e19f70d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"qa8a19a7e6f66684265a1","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":198,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:48:37.239Z","text":"老子不想翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55b225de3335e19f70d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8a19a7e6f66684265a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55b225de3335e19f70d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q5c79fd6f218885c41bc7","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":199,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-22T00:48:43.507Z","text":"老子砸郭的翻什么案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c79fd6f218885c41bc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"},{"id":"q4776c312c4f40956e177","batch_id":"batch-000040","seq":200,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-09-22T00:50:18.484Z","text":"真戰友應該抬起頭來，想想咱們在做什麼，對誰有利。是去引用733為了一個心理疾病人士成名？還名垂青史？哈哈。。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4776c312c4f40956e177","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000040"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000039","next_batch_id":"batch-000041"}