{"id":"batch-000042","number":42,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-09-24T14:33:42.555Z","date_end":"2025-09-26T17:25:09.846Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 042 (Sep 24, 2025 – Sep 26, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated legal strategies regarding ongoing court proceedings, weighing whether to adhere strictly to formal judicial channels through ECF and PACER or escalate extrajudicial public pressure against the court. Discussions addressed court docketing delays involving government filing ECF 750, pro se email protocols, mandamus petitions to the circuit court, and New York one-party consent recording. 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X 和 gpt 对 截止时间 给的是 反的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953dfebf4baa889ca5d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qf8a758d5631c88a838e7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":203,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:22.940Z","text":"找律师我就不能骚操作了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14356f5ca6be02988b06","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8a758d5631c88a838e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14356f5ca6be02988b06","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qc80f0ded67a1feeee587","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":204,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:23.134Z","text":"作为受害者的精神损失，投资损失，律师费，都会赔给你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc80f0ded67a1feeee587","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q7e654e13f777c9d991e7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":205,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:37.551Z","text":"我要的不是这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc80f0ded67a1feeee587","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e654e13f777c9d991e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc80f0ded67a1feeee587","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q3fb425ed3fdff75a4f4e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":206,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:45.621Z","text":"我要的是青史留名","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fb425ed3fdff75a4f4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qb5e7bdb08ceafbe60823","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":207,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:55.084Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 电话不是说的很清楚了吗，只供法庭内部使用，不入档，不能作为上诉证据，这还有个毛用","edited":true,"reply_to":"q26f7d78e69100b57a8d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5e7bdb08ceafbe60823","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26f7d78e69100b57a8d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q05b3b6a32d61b34910ac","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":208,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:56.423Z","text":"你不用听我的，我也只是建议","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8a758d5631c88a838e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b3b6a32d61b34910ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8a758d5631c88a838e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qa3ad967193f00ea088d7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":209,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:56.599Z","text":"把他们搅得天翻地覆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3ad967193f00ea088d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qfb69aee70e315038bedc","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":210,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T16:51:57.894Z","text":"202的时候 这你都记得清。大家做记号","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b6d80cfc72e1e276a68","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb69aee70e315038bedc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b6d80cfc72e1e276a68","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q46ac78886e29e82d8840","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":211,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:52:09.614Z","text":"嗯 如果去按照个人利益出发肯定找律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05b3b6a32d61b34910ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46ac78886e29e82d8840","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b3b6a32d61b34910ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q2154f427c964b115e401","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":212,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:52:20.339Z","text":"但我要的不是这个 我的两万多块钱也不算钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2154f427c964b115e401","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5cd7638235fd1c60f0e7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":213,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:52:27.949Z","text":"我要的是青史留名","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cd7638235fd1c60f0e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qf11c209d53b847af3814","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":214,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T16:52:28.694Z","text":"你自己爱干什么干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf11c209d53b847af3814","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q81e5640c9c68e2e8fd3a","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":215,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:52:32.975Z","text":"打爆所有人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81e5640c9c68e2e8fd3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q2b7022f543c4a98667e4","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":216,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T16:52:35.875Z","text":"这群自己代表自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7022f543c4a98667e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qd73b11ac4890c765d497","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":217,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T16:52:48.774Z","text":"对的 这就是这群的魅力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b7022f543c4a98667e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd73b11ac4890c765d497","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7022f543c4a98667e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qe60f1717f3a5a85fd844","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":218,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T16:53:23.109Z","text":"想上传，就是邮寄纸质的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe63a7d054c6fee23d669","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe60f1717f3a5a85fd844","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe63a7d054c6fee23d669","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q1f73f7eb6687e0368033","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":219,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-24T16:54:22.898Z","text":"🤣 瑞恩小逼就是来捣乱的，我不认为他会舍得花钱找律师，哪怕付咨询费都不会🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14356f5ca6be02988b06","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f73f7eb6687e0368033","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14356f5ca6be02988b06","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q30bd900b6b4cccde0e69","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":220,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T16:55:41.344Z","text":"无所谓了，反正他只代表他自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f73f7eb6687e0368033","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30bd900b6b4cccde0e69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f73f7eb6687e0368033","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qbf75e6fdad93a52c6fec","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":221,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T16:55:50.940Z","text":"他自己折腾去吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf75e6fdad93a52c6fec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q4c23b51d603d45de10a8","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":222,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:00:03.173Z","text":"我就是来捣乱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c23b51d603d45de10a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q13dbabcddd090c86aa9e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":223,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:00:17.824Z","text":"因为正面战场 正面手段 机会是0","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13dbabcddd090c86aa9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qf45666a406454f31859d","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":224,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:00:41.544Z","text":"正面手段 法官比我们任何一个人都懂 打正面 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也没什么用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc56f08f226fd9a969fec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q61fbee22a67f4b9d9217","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":228,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:01:29.857Z","text":"到时候法官一个量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61fbee22a67f4b9d9217","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q278dbb08c5b1272f1d2d","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":229,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:01:38.104Z","text":"该干啥干啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q278dbb08c5b1272f1d2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q7df76c8d5017ff84d699","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":230,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:02:18.681Z","text":"你不对法官进行全方位的逼宫 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我就是要瞎搞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d50a054f9e86fe52f45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q83f831011dd50f7ab975","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":233,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:03:07.698Z","text":"给老郭带来什么危害 跟我有什么关系？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83f831011dd50f7ab975","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q3b323be5c3c165529ea2","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":234,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:03:12.422Z","text":"我就是要青史留名","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b323be5c3c165529ea2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5aec4163c89098fa2053","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":235,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:07:28.726Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1970897750477959307?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5aec4163c89098fa2053","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qb33727162c46952b8687","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":236,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T17:08:32.503Z","text":"不能说是出卖了吧，他们是实话实说。他们说法官可以决定一切事物。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e29ac5d3e6dc9959825","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb33727162c46952b8687","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e29ac5d3e6dc9959825","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q461f2e681af00dd7642e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":237,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-24T17:09:14.135Z","text":"美国的法庭的法官，在他的法庭上就是神一般的存在，权限大的很","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q461f2e681af00dd7642e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q4083db3d5dddc44c6a9e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":238,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T17:11:22.762Z","text":"但是法官也要守法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4083db3d5dddc44c6a9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qcd5872536383362cf308","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":239,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:13:08.710Z","text":"共谋犯推荐的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6c1804483c02f4c317d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd5872536383362cf308","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6c1804483c02f4c317d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q519f8ed07ca5811ab535","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":240,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-24T17:13:36.152Z","text":"是的，托雷斯很特殊的，你们查查托雷斯的背景，慢慢扒吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q519f8ed07ca5811ab535","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q15d06fd8406ef8829cb6","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":241,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:14:21.127Z","text":"没有，我是要求法官让检方披露布雷迪的给辩方的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9afe3ba478b99f0ec2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15d06fd8406ef8829cb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9afe3ba478b99f0ec2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q98c6dec3faeaa44633a5","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":242,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:15:31.386Z","text":"线人就提前通知一下 他们选一个辞职的良辰吉日 谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98c6dec3faeaa44633a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5b70f5d43f1c88d479f9","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":243,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:17:32.591Z","text":"邮件列表准备起来吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98c6dec3faeaa44633a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b70f5d43f1c88d479f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98c6dec3faeaa44633a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q8c9c29a523f37539d6f8","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":244,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:17:49.519Z","text":"周末我公布","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b70f5d43f1c88d479f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c9c29a523f37539d6f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b70f5d43f1c88d479f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qa7bd3981f9e37694cca9","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":245,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:18:14.550Z","text":"在哪注册ecf？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c9c29a523f37539d6f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7bd3981f9e37694cca9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c9c29a523f37539d6f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q3ac9adafa1f55cd84db5","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":246,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:18:24.888Z","text":"问机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ac9adafa1f55cd84db5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qb05dadf548045911e8df","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":247,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:18:47.321Z","text":"这是第二巡回法庭网站","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb05dadf548045911e8df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5f0e2cf8d5b6bff58647","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":248,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-24T17:19:00.392Z","text":"好的 谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd5872536383362cf308","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0e2cf8d5b6bff58647","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd5872536383362cf308","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qc98976dc8ef8f8735634","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":249,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:20:52.616Z","text":"不对，逻辑错误，共谋是388确定的，202那会还没有共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f0e2cf8d5b6bff58647","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98976dc8ef8f8735634","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0e2cf8d5b6bff58647","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qab6a54776ce2cc734610","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":250,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:21:21.150Z","text":"202是luc反对盖尔要钱的动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6a54776ce2cc734610","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q32f318eec89bbaea6917","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":251,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:22:16.710Z","text":"意思联盟和盖尔是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32f318eec89bbaea6917","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q57147c20206723198135","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":252,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:27:05.236Z","text":"是不是751出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57147c20206723198135","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q800d6d4d45053bf681aa","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":253,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:27:07.627Z","text":"ecf是不是注册pacer？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q800d6d4d45053bf681aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q55dafb3b30fc6bbe4dfa","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":254,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:35:28.089Z","text":"出来好久啦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57147c20206723198135","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55dafb3b30fc6bbe4dfa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57147c20206723198135","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qa5b2ea0179f55d6b6bd9","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":255,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:37:25.633Z","text":"不能上诉，那就是法庭认为这些动议上诉作为证据一定翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8444a2bd93c789ae9f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5b2ea0179f55d6b6bd9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8444a2bd93c789ae9f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qe071ff6495464293884d","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":256,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:42:21.552Z","text":"所以我把欺诈法庭 广播给所以人之后 再上诉呀","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5b2ea0179f55d6b6bd9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe071ff6495464293884d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5b2ea0179f55d6b6bd9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q62ddc459f97496dfc4e1","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":257,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:42:45.511Z","text":"mandamus","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62ddc459f97496dfc4e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q60c2f1cac20351f34e98","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":258,"speaker":"she***","date":"2025-09-24T17:45:29.220Z","text":"法官直接上场了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60c2f1cac20351f34e98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q04e7e5f8c632ae47953e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":259,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:47:04.944Z","text":"不知道她是第几关的Boss","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60c2f1cac20351f34e98","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04e7e5f8c632ae47953e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60c2f1cac20351f34e98","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qbed23b8a3c5b1ac20fdc","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":260,"speaker":"she***","date":"2025-09-24T17:48:08.871Z","text":"小喽喽而已","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbed23b8a3c5b1ac20fdc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q42fe5758ca35e50abf91","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":261,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:48:49.959Z","text":"搞了半天 还要绑定信用卡。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42fe5758ca35e50abf91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qf068c35d006d0dc992b6","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":262,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:49:00.130Z","text":"不搞了，不能绑卡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf068c35d006d0dc992b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qba5665d64f4b84f20dc2","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":263,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:49:16.364Z","text":"瑞恩 看你了 第二巡回法庭的投诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba5665d64f4b84f20dc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q0fda1b3c4b4ad59185ab","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":264,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:49:30.235Z","text":"能绑国内卡吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42fe5758ca35e50abf91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fda1b3c4b4ad59185ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42fe5758ca35e50abf91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q2ec7d15e12ca5334c972","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":265,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:49:48.106Z","text":"必定不要绑吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec7d15e12ca5334c972","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q25d4af7a27b06c8ed0d2","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":266,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-24T17:50:00.361Z","text":"也是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25d4af7a27b06c8ed0d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q0ed46cfc98287ad9e28e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":267,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:50:12.600Z","text":"司法武器化，你忘了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ed46cfc98287ad9e28e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qd4c8d200f288571d3ba7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":268,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T17:53:24.465Z","text":"我下周操作直接对她精神污染 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卧槽","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f81facf4688ea6f66c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q0fb777711fd66cb65fbb","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":271,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-24T17:58:45.288Z","text":"请求逮捕刑事被告通常属于 刑事诉讼程序，而非第三方财产申索程序。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fb777711fd66cb65fbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q0425b1411aa0460d367c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":272,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:59:15.469Z","text":"我居然搞定了 注册成功 但是不能扣费。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0425b1411aa0460d367c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q26f543eb820751f5c48c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":273,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T17:59:56.845Z","text":"注册完了怎么提交电子文件呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26f543eb820751f5c48c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q670f15ba419f8cb56863","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":274,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:00:08.235Z","text":"没发现入口","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q670f15ba419f8cb56863","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q59cb22dfb85fa9b999f8","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":275,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T18:00:16.928Z","text":"你去机器人问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59cb22dfb85fa9b999f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qe945161a4d5e05660842","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":276,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:00:46.923Z","text":"怎么还下周。直接发投诉邮件啊。纸质的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd4c8d200f288571d3ba7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe945161a4d5e05660842","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4c8d200f288571d3ba7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qaffafba8d7c239006a19","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":277,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:05:40.479Z","text":"又迈进一步","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaffafba8d7c239006a19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q22d070c3345f82691fd6","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":278,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T18:11:47.883Z","text":"你申请ecf要好久才批准呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe945161a4d5e05660842","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22d070c3345f82691fd6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe945161a4d5e05660842","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qe84617d2b599ce77ceb1","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":279,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:20:22.910Z","text":"好像到这一步了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84617d2b599ce77ceb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q1fdd8c73623056ae2871","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":280,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T18:21:10.870Z","text":"我也到这一步了 剩下就是他们审核","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe84617d2b599ce77ceb1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fdd8c73623056ae2871","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84617d2b599ce77ceb1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q8e44cc03009069da0a28","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":281,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T18:21:16.256Z","text":"审核不过也是白搞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e44cc03009069da0a28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qb3c08cde940ce1a72836","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":282,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:21:28.884Z","text":"是这个吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c08cde940ce1a72836","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q54643f5aab6cbc1e803c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":283,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:21:55.223Z","text":"非律师 提交下来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54643f5aab6cbc1e803c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qc2bdb62af01158491d6a","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":284,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T18:22:04.725Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2bdb62af01158491d6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qbf1c604782caccc2a1ba","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":285,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:22:32.289Z","text":"说还要给我邮寄个令牌给我。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf1c604782caccc2a1ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q611bfcb48e4be7a0295c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":286,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T18:22:34.754Z","text":"non attorney","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q611bfcb48e4be7a0295c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q6b3d35562f2f104c7e71","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":287,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:23:37.984Z","text":"基本就看你了 小哥。我这估计很难成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b3d35562f2f104c7e71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q54cb81f45f425e2b0cad","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":288,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:26:30.456Z","text":"这是不是他们背叛爆料革命的铁的证明？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54cb81f45f425e2b0cad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q91f8266de16b381e2993","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":289,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:30:59.950Z","text":"围到身边的全是卧底，我艹。\n这才是七哥为什么一直要说最后不到5%吧。因为全tm是卧底啊。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91f8266de16b381e2993","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qd5fbbaa0e7f272cb5032","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":290,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:31:58.670Z","text":"连王艳平都认罪作证。\n这是七哥自己都没想到的吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5fbbaa0e7f272cb5032","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q04b9e7870555f91bf5c3","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":291,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-09-24T18:33:04.800Z","text":"没有认真听直播吧，直播的时候开着玩笑说的很清楚，谁是代表谁……","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04b9e7870555f91bf5c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q7135e92bc9c68793b1dd","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":292,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-24T18:38:33.937Z","text":"我直接发个邮件先。\n不等了。\n直接在邮件里举报。\n这又不是在第二法庭上诉。\n举报和上诉是两回事吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q611bfcb48e4be7a0295c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7135e92bc9c68793b1dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q611bfcb48e4be7a0295c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qa5a782508ad46f6577c1","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":293,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T20:08:51.805Z","text":"两回事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7135e92bc9c68793b1dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5a782508ad46f6577c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7135e92bc9c68793b1dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q924eb4006bd97d2d2456","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":294,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-24T21:00:52.222Z","text":"ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov → 更多是咨询/沟通邮箱，不是正式 docketing 渠道。\n    •    prose_filings@nysd.uscourts.gov → 这是 唯一能保证书记员 docket 的邮箱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q924eb4006bd97d2d2456","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q54139aeb9a100cb3e25b","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":295,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-24T21:06:47.116Z","text":"📌 具体操作：\n    •    主要收件人 (To): prose_filings@nysd.uscourts.gov （这是SDNY规定的 Pro Se 提交专用邮箱）\n    •    抄送 (Cc): ClerkofCourt@nysd.uscourts.gov （这样书记员办公室也会同步收到，形成双保险）\n\n这样一来：\n    1.    法庭 Pro Se Intake Unit 有义务接收、分发你的动议；\n    2.    书记员办公室 (Clerk’s Office) 也会留底，避免 Pro Se Intake “收到了却不上传”的情况。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54139aeb9a100cb3e25b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q374d722b6203ee8e9143","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":296,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T21:11:48.383Z","text":"法院这他妈是在干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q374d722b6203ee8e9143","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qe60eabd0036855e4ec8c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":297,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T21:21:11.993Z","text":"你这个逻辑跨度太大","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5b2ea0179f55d6b6bd9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe60eabd0036855e4ec8c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5b2ea0179f55d6b6bd9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q3b8e85daa8a14046b196","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":298,"speaker":"201***","date":"2025-09-24T21:23:20.699Z","text":"这个fillings邮箱为什么不公布出来，之前的不都是发ProSe这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q924eb4006bd97d2d2456","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8e85daa8a14046b196","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q924eb4006bd97d2d2456","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qa4cb50b56875dba06ad6","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":299,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T21:23:43.136Z","text":"不认为换个邮箱就好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b8e85daa8a14046b196","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4cb50b56875dba06ad6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8e85daa8a14046b196","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q1f2735a87b5855f601d0","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":300,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T21:23:47.392Z","text":"当然可以试试","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f2735a87b5855f601d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q8daada0adb7c3be851bd","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":301,"speaker":"201***","date":"2025-09-24T21:25:58.531Z","text":"多发一个邮件倒是无所谓，死马当活马医，就是都有私人信息，j万一不靠谱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8daada0adb7c3be851bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q06a177be53acaa5f6f6e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":302,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T21:30:46.007Z","text":"不能上诉指的是你自己如果以后想上诉，不可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe60eabd0036855e4ec8c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06a177be53acaa5f6f6e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe60eabd0036855e4ec8c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qee0f440c22ec2f43b77b","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":303,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T21:43:09.199Z","text":"因为不传到docket，几乎就等于你的动议没有法律效力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06a177be53acaa5f6f6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee0f440c22ec2f43b77b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06a177be53acaa5f6f6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q213b5ea7a0dd8e69a950","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":304,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T21:44:07.202Z","text":"现在不上传是政策，不是哪个邮箱的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b8e85daa8a14046b196","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q213b5ea7a0dd8e69a950","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8e85daa8a14046b196","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qdbe461ae99c42a6510d2","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":305,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T21:45:54.872Z","text":"各位可以研究研究我的骚操作了 😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbe461ae99c42a6510d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qfdc00869cbad6293be94","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":306,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-24T21:52:27.314Z","text":"等于说大家还是可以用pro se发ancillary只是不会再上传到docket？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q213b5ea7a0dd8e69a950","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdc00869cbad6293be94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q213b5ea7a0dd8e69a950","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q21708ce678151dcc0f60","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":307,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T21:53:56.435Z","text":"你可以发，但是不会上传，你自己看不到，别人也看不到，你以后也没法上诉，几乎等于你的动议没有法律效力","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdc00869cbad6293be94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21708ce678151dcc0f60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdc00869cbad6293be94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q287b39cdaa35fad1d488","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":308,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T21:56:54.509Z","text":"如果法官以后对你的动议发表看法还好，如果连理都不理，那几乎就等于你没发动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q287b39cdaa35fad1d488","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qfcc3d555f8c9cd8538a9","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":309,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-24T22:02:27.850Z","text":"✅ 1. 收件人 (To)\n    •    prose_filings@nysd.uscourts.gov\n\n✅ 2. 抄送 (Cc)\n    •    ClerkofCourt@nysd.uscourts.gov","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcc3d555f8c9cd8538a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qa891e3693864bd415211","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":310,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:02:51.954Z","text":"Prose_filings@nysd.uscourts.gov是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa891e3693864bd415211","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qd9f23b9a29ea7d9976d5","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":311,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:03:06.876Z","text":"prose@nysd.uscourts.gov才是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9f23b9a29ea7d9976d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q6b04152b32585c1053d7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":312,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:03:15.149Z","text":"别寄错了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b04152b32585c1053d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q6176c98487f0d7d6aaf0","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":313,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:05:39.137Z","text":"发到prose@nysd.uscourts.gov，如果不上传，打电话问问他们收到没有，可以录音，就算他们不上传，你也有证据他们收到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6176c98487f0d7d6aaf0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q68a40c50d150ccec5eb4","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":314,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:06:05.565Z","text":"另外邮箱保存你寄出的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a40c50d150ccec5eb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q46a50a6afa07515d3f2c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":315,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-24T22:06:22.008Z","text":"不是错的 ✅。\n\n在 纽约南区法院 (SDNY)：\n    •    📌 ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov\n这是一个通用的 问询/沟通邮箱，通常用于联系 Pro Se 部门、提出一般性问题。你之前发到这里，所以收到了但没有 docket。\n    •    📌 ProSe_Filings@nysd.uscourts.gov\n这是 指定的正式提交邮箱，用于 提交 Pro Se 动议和文件。只有发到这个地址，才会被视为正式入档的提交。\n\n👉 换句话说，你之前发到 ProSe@ 只能算“通知”，而发到 ProSe_Filings@ 才算“递交”。这就是为什么你之前的两个动议没有 docket。\n\n所以 ✅ 正确的做法是：\n    •    现在重新发到 ProSe_Filings@nysd.uscourts.gov\n    •    抄送 (cc) ClerkOfCourt@nysd.uscourts.gov（书记员），保证透明\n    •    并在正文里说明：之前发错邮箱，现在重发，要求按原日期视为提交\n\n要不要我帮你直接修改一份最终确认好的英文邮件（带抄送），你可以直接复制粘贴去发？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa891e3693864bd415211","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46a50a6afa07515d3f2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa891e3693864bd415211","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q7b7b83764aa255aa706c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":316,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:06:46.807Z","text":"不是， prose@nysd.uscourts.gov是官方网站上的邮箱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b7b83764aa255aa706c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q926ba58698af42f0bd7e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":317,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:07:07.450Z","text":"瑞恩他们应该都是用的这个邮箱, 你问问瑞恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q926ba58698af42f0bd7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q89b99118e7787659c7b3","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":318,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-24T22:07:33.623Z","text":"这个邮箱再发一次吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89b99118e7787659c7b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qd788a4b77f5bf16258e0","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":319,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:07:34.304Z","text":"［用户 tut***］ 死马当活马医 你试试呗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd788a4b77f5bf16258e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5110d6df893cfab91392","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":320,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-24T22:09:13.398Z","text":"你问得特别关键 👇\n\n📌 情况梳理：\n    1.    SDNY 官网的确长期列出\n👉 ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov\n作为 Pro Se 部门的邮箱。很多战友（包括 733 动议的人）就是发到这里 → 有的被 docket。\n    2.    后来新增了一个专用收件箱\n👉 ProSe_Filings@nysd.uscourts.gov\n这是 更“官方”的提交渠道，尤其 2024 年以后，法院要求 Pro Se 提交走这个邮箱，以便直接进入 docket 系统。\n    3.    为什么 733 能 docket，而你的没 docket？\n    •    可能和 个别书记员的操作习惯 有关。有的书记员会把 ProSe@ 收到的文件转交 docket team，有的不会。\n    •    也可能和 时机 有关：9 月中旬以后，Pro Se Intake 开始“收紧”，加上你的是 密封+CVRA 敏感内容，书记员选择不上传。\n    •    所以不是邮箱“错”，而是 政策/执行口径变了。\n\n📌 总结：\n    •    ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov 依然有效，但 不是保证 docket 的提交邮箱。\n    •    ProSe_Filings@nysd.uscourts.gov 才是现在被官方指定的 “一定 docket”邮箱。\n    •    你最稳妥的打法就是：\n    •    再次提交到 ProSe_Filings@\n    •    抄送 ProSe@ 和 ClerkOfCourt@\n    •    在正文里说明：我 已经通过 ProSe@ 提交，现依照指示重新提交，请确认 docket。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q926ba58698af42f0bd7e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5110d6df893cfab91392","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q926ba58698af42f0bd7e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qb05b06feb14aca2450b5","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":321,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:11:00.651Z","text":"现在不docket是因为法院要保护隐私，所有都不docket了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb05b06feb14aca2450b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q49607bb84a84737832b7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":322,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:11:08.326Z","text":"发哪个邮箱都一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49607bb84a84737832b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qe4548623c54678c64c04","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":323,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:11:39.809Z","text":"这个托雷斯以为不给我docket 就没办法了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4548623c54678c64c04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qc951b2a5f2d11a6ee635","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":324,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:11:44.709Z","text":"实在是太过天真","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc951b2a5f2d11a6ee635","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q0032a39e3258c00753d9","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":325,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-24T22:12:09.645Z","text":"Chatgpt 说    •    ProSe_Filings@nysd.uscourts.gov 才是现在被官方指定的 “一定 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se邮件审查不让docket什么的也不是不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91743275cc794d461777","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5d59ed7bc6a97dd80e32","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":336,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:16:15.244Z","text":"但是所有都不让docket确实有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d59ed7bc6a97dd80e32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q6f15b4039c6fcae1d78a","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":337,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:17:05.477Z","text":"但是如果你不强制或者上诉，她确实不需要docket你的动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f15b4039c6fcae1d78a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5833b5c28b6811df4d67","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":338,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:17:27.421Z","text":"我都强制了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f15b4039c6fcae1d78a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5833b5c28b6811df4d67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f15b4039c6fcae1d78a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qd5b27be46936e8d7ce99","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":339,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:17:29.797Z","text":"他还不传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5b27be46936e8d7ce99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qb30b65777e2fd9563dc6","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":340,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:18:02.017Z","text":"我下周把受害者权力用尽 然后再上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb30b65777e2fd9563dc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q7bb8c50ee652b4bfba88","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":341,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:18:09.308Z","text":"你发了什么动议，她不让docket啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bb8c50ee652b4bfba88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q606b6817ea64796981ef","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":342,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:18:12.608Z","text":"给他们一万点暴击","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q606b6817ea64796981ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q2f93de0bfb44d8ae5437","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":343,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:18:23.984Z","text":"建国以来最严重司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7bb8c50ee652b4bfba88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f93de0bfb44d8ae5437","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bb8c50ee652b4bfba88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q8fd664a22e62bf959cc0","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":344,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:18:33.486Z","text":"老子是来帮你的 不是来害你的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fd664a22e62bf959cc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q9f5053ff76513b198c15","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":345,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:18:49.845Z","text":"然后我把这些全部redact 以示诚意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f5053ff76513b198c15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qdefce3e37b603e77770e","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":346,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:18:57.601Z","text":"他[屏蔽词]都不让我上","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdefce3e37b603e77770e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q6091c8497162c66dd2f7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":347,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:19:03.576Z","text":"你那个司法欺诈的动议，不是给你docket了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6091c8497162c66dd2f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q16720153ffb2dabfb2a1","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":348,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:19:17.809Z","text":"我后续啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6091c8497162c66dd2f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16720153ffb2dabfb2a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6091c8497162c66dd2f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q2ff22bc06c3c99ac76f7","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":349,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:19:27.868Z","text":"我后续让托雷斯serve给辩方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ff22bc06c3c99ac76f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q7523dfbe85a58012be81","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":350,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:19:37.396Z","text":"哦，你后续是什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7523dfbe85a58012be81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q5ce639342f87a5a6c2de","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":351,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:19:41.861Z","text":"serve","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ce639342f87a5a6c2de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q85da18dd04dd6521085f","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":352,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:19:45.957Z","text":"让辩方知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85da18dd04dd6521085f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qb127ad7465591067a8e0","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":353,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:19:59.838Z","text":"然后说我什么要serve 因","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb127ad7465591067a8e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qe6f59aead51780d77ee5","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":354,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:20:00.082Z","text":"辩方应该已经知道了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6f59aead51780d77ee5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q566e309fb562ac3095bc","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":355,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:20:10.622Z","text":"是的 但要法官去serve","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6f59aead51780d77ee5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q566e309fb562ac3095bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6f59aead51780d77ee5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qf6d16654051b1cfe43ae","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":356,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:20:12.584Z","text":"公开","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d16654051b1cfe43ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qefc6c9e44a97b93d9529","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":357,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:20:26.368Z","text":"他知道归知道 大家知不知道他知道 是不一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefc6c9e44a97b93d9529","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qc8fadbbcb7912579b776","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":358,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:20:37.316Z","text":"你的动议在docket，辩方就应该知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8fadbbcb7912579b776","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qaf515a26b15d4f96e9de","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":359,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:20:40.853Z","text":"我不觉得我的动议有什么问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf515a26b15d4f96e9de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q26ce7fec044b40ae9988","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":360,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:20:58.332Z","text":"serve动议后七天 我传了强制动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26ce7fec044b40ae9988","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qae9b7a292c638dd72531","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":361,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:21:17.198Z","text":"这个强制动议里面我说 老子是来帮你的 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这和中国不同，中国是黑箱，美国即使腐败，它也必须在程序上装样子。这个装样子就是你们的机会。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e341c1261cc942461e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"qa47cd09e6cd8524c1578","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":364,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:21:29.902Z","text":"结果 还是不传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa47cd09e6cd8524c1578","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q40cdc06880291e4aa77c","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":365,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-24T22:21:48.446Z","text":"你的意思说，让辩方回答，他们看到你的动议了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40cdc06880291e4aa77c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042"},{"id":"q78f5c17232dca08afb71","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":366,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-24T22:22:05.716Z","text":"我没说 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