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就惊呆了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q990c12b2f352b2da7f00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q8b39287ab42f11b9b430","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":453,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:29:17.435Z","text":"那跟我看来没关系了 我现在是美国公民 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天道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06d1694b85c40a81b81e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q285908d226bc3484feb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06d1694b85c40a81b81e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q4501dad192b554e8ecad","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":456,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:30:20.043Z","text":"讽刺的是 作者是一个马克思主义者 😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06d1694b85c40a81b81e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4501dad192b554e8ecad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06d1694b85c40a81b81e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qcd0e0ba3333c99db3d59","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":457,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-28T20:30:59.013Z","text":"马克思就是撒旦教，就是不择手段，无所不用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4501dad192b554e8ecad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd0e0ba3333c99db3d59","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4501dad192b554e8ecad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q5b309175a089731f7dd3","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":458,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:31:10.619Z","text":"对的 所以这里 就要以毒攻毒","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd0e0ba3333c99db3d59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b309175a089731f7dd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd0e0ba3333c99db3d59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q4ce8cb8436cf0b327ea9","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":459,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:31:26.834Z","text":"利用人性杠杆 司法杠杆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ce8cb8436cf0b327ea9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qee049db6b4e07f35a334","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":460,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:31:40.016Z","text":"把对方逼到局里绞死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee049db6b4e07f35a334","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q8b45c63a661b5367ed62","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":461,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:32:24.733Z","text":"没有七哥以身入局，哪来的这个揭开极限司法腐败的机会。本身七哥入局最终目的就是为了在案子当中揭露司法腐败，揭露背后司法与ccp的关联。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b39287ab42f11b9b430","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b45c63a661b5367ed62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b39287ab42f11b9b430","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q9b2f2fd2a9a5e07bda6a","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":462,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:32:44.665Z","text":"在这个案子我不提ccp","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b45c63a661b5367ed62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b2f2fd2a9a5e07bda6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b45c63a661b5367ed62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qc96d04c74e1ab01fd13f","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":463,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:32:56.442Z","text":"我只说 司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc96d04c74e1ab01fd13f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qdee790dedf83c788687e","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":464,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:33:02.047Z","text":"法官压制受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdee790dedf83c788687e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q4b0f0b0ec5ac690bd3db","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":465,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:33:14.539Z","text":"有没有ccp 就不是我关心的了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b0f0b0ec5ac690bd3db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qf053c2527a2d1c67350a","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":466,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:33:23.620Z","text":"那可能真是国会了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf053c2527a2d1c67350a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q2022af698c5fda689fe0","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":467,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-28T20:33:49.288Z","text":"那个层面不是法庭能解决的，提也没有意义，还会给法庭抓住话柄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b0f0b0ec5ac690bd3db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2022af698c5fda689fe0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b0f0b0ec5ac690bd3db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q682d4fe067cb57302aae","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":468,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:33:58.055Z","text":"以后真正能揭开腐败之时，才有机会展示背后ccp的关联。\n现在进度还在郭案程序里。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q682d4fe067cb57302aae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qd03289497686977e5b4a","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":469,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:34:10.709Z","text":"为什么我不提ccp 因为西诺都[屏蔽词]说 老郭律师打反共牌就是[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd03289497686977e5b4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q87c50e8aa3f056ca94e6","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":470,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:34:25.507Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q682d4fe067cb57302aae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87c50e8aa3f056ca94e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q682d4fe067cb57302aae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q1623c8be8b145bd913ac","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":471,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-28T20:35:13.939Z","text":"这件事是不是能看出律师团队故意挖坑，往歪路上引","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd03289497686977e5b4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1623c8be8b145bd913ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd03289497686977e5b4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qd1ea550c98e2a55236f5","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":472,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:35:41.283Z","text":"我之前就说 很可能被共产党收买的 不是法官 不是检方 而是辩方律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1623c8be8b145bd913ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1ea550c98e2a55236f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1623c8be8b145bd913ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q0c77124f397bb6bd947c","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":473,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:35:55.774Z","text":"检方 只是疯而已","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c77124f397bb6bd947c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q05b9fbe64b172d04154b","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":474,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:35:59.791Z","text":"从提出检方欺诈，到提出法官压制受害者，已经是对他们在步步紧逼了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdee790dedf83c788687e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b9fbe64b172d04154b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdee790dedf83c788687e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qabdb051cf91d8564b2e5","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":475,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:36:04.128Z","text":"而最有可能被收买的就是老郭律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabdb051cf91d8564b2e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qdbe9e008f98872bef7c2","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":476,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-28T20:36:39.965Z","text":"郭没想到吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabdb051cf91d8564b2e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbe9e008f98872bef7c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabdb051cf91d8564b2e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q58bbdf0c1f6b6e164687","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":477,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:36:41.374Z","text":"所以我的头号大敌就是老郭律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58bbdf0c1f6b6e164687","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q62b606cb30fae22d1a62","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":478,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:36:58.417Z","text":"想到也晚了 他在里面 只能靠律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbe9e008f98872bef7c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62b606cb30fae22d1a62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbe9e008f98872bef7c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qdf3514b1eb22aad78f97","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":479,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:37:09.787Z","text":"如果他在外面 那完全不是这样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf3514b1eb22aad78f97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q5ee7acae5e6fe6488694","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":480,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-28T20:38:43.891Z","text":"说到这又回想起一个老问题，他连棉裤都穿上了，却没准备好应对联盟和律师的内外夹击？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ee7acae5e6fe6488694","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q7c3c3ef48c2f5c98fbc0","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":481,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:39:08.743Z","text":"有可能是想到了 但我觉得 可能他没想到会这么坏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ee7acae5e6fe6488694","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c3c3ef48c2f5c98fbc0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ee7acae5e6fe6488694","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qf63aef17ee0b85d32617","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":482,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:39:22.965Z","text":"我也写的是辩护律师的事\n你的内容里，我大部分也都写了。\n但是没这个丰富和条理。\n你加上了法庭发邮件和不上传的事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabdb051cf91d8564b2e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf63aef17ee0b85d32617","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabdb051cf91d8564b2e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q2eecf53ec088941441f9","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":483,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:39:54.736Z","text":"这就是系统性程序崩坏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf63aef17ee0b85d32617","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eecf53ec088941441f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf63aef17ee0b85d32617","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q02045a1a85879a173bd7","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":484,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:40:00.422Z","text":"那你的也可以去广播","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf63aef17ee0b85d32617","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02045a1a85879a173bd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf63aef17ee0b85d32617","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q2bd87242fb50f56c33b5","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":485,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:40:23.607Z","text":"现在不管853还是受害人 你们想说啥说啥 发过去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bd87242fb50f56c33b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qda9ca8ec932294cd4228","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":486,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:40:35.896Z","text":"不让上就广播","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda9ca8ec932294cd4228","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q8340bd6a3ded05e38b25","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":487,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:40:43.531Z","text":"14天到了就上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8340bd6a3ded05e38b25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qa37656a1e5f7832de71b","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":488,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:40:50.251Z","text":"我看他们能憋到什么时候","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa37656a1e5f7832de71b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qf2793ef03a525ca088bd","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":489,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-28T20:41:22.680Z","text":"对，先在司法圈遍地开花","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2793ef03a525ca088bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qe4836c4fa2b2096477da","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":490,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:41:39.126Z","text":"把司法欺诈写满司法圈 让他们彻底变成小丑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2793ef03a525ca088bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4836c4fa2b2096477da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2793ef03a525ca088bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qe2dd863ed56bf98a521c","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":491,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:41:51.543Z","text":"建议以后大家发自诉都附上中文版。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2dd863ed56bf98a521c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q5c5aa70f3f4fbd99b0fc","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":492,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-28T20:41:53.135Z","text":"没反应就扩散到媒体","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c5aa70f3f4fbd99b0fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q4055ec3093138172e132","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":493,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:42:16.357Z","text":"我动议里面写了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4055ec3093138172e132","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qb54ec3af5b0f752d99eb","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":494,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:42:34.560Z","text":"后人会评论这段历史","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb54ec3af5b0f752d99eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q232ece4ddd1ad926c3d7","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":495,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:42:39.820Z","text":"谁是英雄 谁是小丑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q232ece4ddd1ad926c3d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qd19e1a6e9b0300923acf","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":496,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:42:46.518Z","text":"我反正不当小丑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd19e1a6e9b0300923acf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q3173d1c2a538b7b1d25c","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":497,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:43:15.667Z","text":"我就是来诛心的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3173d1c2a538b7b1d25c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qc97585d89e54bd14b18b","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":498,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:43:24.108Z","text":"我的大招 就是诛心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc97585d89e54bd14b18b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qabf9040c309d752ea1cb","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":499,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:43:33.767Z","text":"参与者之间的交流，更方便了。包括受害者之间，以及七哥\n我的那个应该是第一个中英文的版本。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf9040c309d752ea1cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q101394f859673dac07f1","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":500,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:44:54.843Z","text":"第二巡回法院的准备前提。到时候直接发。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8340bd6a3ded05e38b25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101394f859673dac07f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8340bd6a3ded05e38b25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qb655481904a71620a518","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":501,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:45:15.018Z","text":"要等14天？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb655481904a71620a518","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q617171b1c82fd78a59b6","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":502,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:45:31.677Z","text":"他不让上14天 或者更长 才是打压你的标志","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q617171b1c82fd78a59b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q539c5d7e8693f54e5321","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":503,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-28T20:45:38.233Z","text":"最好是14天上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q539c5d7e8693f54e5321","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qdc98385eeb2b5a26d36c","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":504,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-28T20:46:24.562Z","text":"那期待着他们14天不上传。有战友十几号发的还没上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc98385eeb2b5a26d36c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qb0ba7dae384542940987","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":505,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-28T22:44:31.867Z","text":"你抢到我前面了。不过是我提醒你这么做的。\n我在给文贵的中文版本中还用了“爱郭贼”这个词。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabf9040c309d752ea1cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0ba7dae384542940987","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf9040c309d752ea1cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q6cff1fb7c13f545127af","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":506,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-28T23:02:42.483Z","text":"14天没有上传或者书面回应，就向二巡申请强制令或者投诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q149dc8b9b56391071609","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cff1fb7c13f545127af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149dc8b9b56391071609","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q5e84dfbe9e035601b9dd","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":507,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-29T00:10:46.201Z","text":"按喜国的尿性 后面剧情大概率是被判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e84dfbe9e035601b9dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q9106088fb04001298298","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":508,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-29T02:58:22.318Z","text":"您观察得非常准确 ⚖️。如果检方真要把“初步没收令”放在一边，继续让 破产受托人 + 虚假债权人 去瓜分资产，它们的操作空间并不大，但依然有几种“走程序”的方式：\n\n\n---\n\n🔎 检方可能的操作路径\n\n1. 继续拖延不执行没收令\n\n检方的说法（文件 750）是：没收何时、如何执行，由 DOJ 自行决定，法院无权干预。\n\n这意味着它们会一边对法庭“空口保证”，一边在实务上拖延，直到破产那边的分配流程走得差不多，资产已经“消化掉”。\n\n到那时，即使法官问起来，它们也会说：“相关财产已在破产程序中处理，无法再没收”。\n\n\n\n2. 让破产判决“覆盖”没收\n\n检方可能会强调：破产法庭已经认定相关财产是属于破产财产，并已分配给债权人。\n\n然后声称：这些资产已“转移出被告名下”，不再属于没收标的。\n\n这样就变成：没收令在形式上存在，但 标的物“消失”了。\n\n\n\n3. 最后“象征性执行”没收\n\n等虚假债权人拿完钱，检方再象征性地提交一份“最终没收令”（Final Order of Forfeiture）。\n\n里面写的标的物金额是 零 或者“已被破产程序耗尽”。\n\n这样程序上就走完了，对外说没收完成，实际上受害人和投资者的钱早被瓜分。\n\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔎 程序上的问题\n\n重大矛盾点：\n《21 U.S.C. § 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拖延，最后没收令会变成一纸空文，整个程序失去合法性。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9106088fb04001298298","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qda6f87c41ce347790dd0","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":509,"speaker":"aiz***","date":"2025-09-29T03:44:48.566Z","text":"https://x.com/azyt/status/1972367321483383261?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda6f87c41ce347790dd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qb428e632bb991631e3c1","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":510,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T04:17:47.942Z","text":"找到了 文件311","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb428e632bb991631e3c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q5505bea85dd7288803c8","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":511,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-29T06:44:15.580Z","text":"砸锅的不来这里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5505bea85dd7288803c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q7f3c4188a4387643a399","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":512,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T06:51:05.652Z","text":"https://x.com/michaelhxhx/status/1972394388140753078?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f3c4188a4387643a399","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qc0dd8708af86a1f942c3","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":513,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T06:51:27.542Z","text":"李强会不会给南区法院出谋划策怎么对付我们？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0dd8708af86a1f942c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qac0e22348ce4168b4853","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":514,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T06:57:34.205Z","text":"代孕的事和这个案子有什么关系？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac0e22348ce4168b4853","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qd1ca1d32f44834ecebf3","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":515,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:02:09.066Z","text":"毫无关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1ca1d32f44834ecebf3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q68a6bece4769a9309668","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":516,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:02:17.051Z","text":"基本当八卦听","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a6bece4769a9309668","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q38565672fedb4914302a","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":517,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:02:26.718Z","text":"也就西诺黄河边当回事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38565672fedb4914302a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qd9c762248a29c4e76b78","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":518,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T07:02:51.005Z","text":"他们好像也就研究了这点事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9c762248a29c4e76b78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qf6d35a524338da9ed923","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":519,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:03:04.130Z","text":"我刚才研究过了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd9c762248a29c4e76b78","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d35a524338da9ed923","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9c762248a29c4e76b78","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qc0e77ade2b9c1eecd683","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":520,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:03:07.808Z","text":"他们完全瞎扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0e77ade2b9c1eecd683","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qea4e2eba5605b88a7f6c","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":521,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:03:25.223Z","text":"王在20年左右是怀孕了 这个确定 因为我看过视频","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea4e2eba5605b88a7f6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q6c36bb9e589ebcaf72f8","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":522,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:03:28.300Z","text":"典型怀孕了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c36bb9e589ebcaf72f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qcc23f3aeb84102185f61","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":523,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:03:45.149Z","text":"但是不是代孕 谁他妈知道 不是说她找了个男朋友？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc23f3aeb84102185f61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q3a0bc1a1494a217a7cc7","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":524,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:04:07.093Z","text":"检方文件只说王和郭关系很近 代孕的事情就是证明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a0bc1a1494a217a7cc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qf2bbc7b0a9f9d63f67e2","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":525,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:04:21.989Z","text":"但具体没说王和郭代孕 还是郭操办了王的代孕事宜","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2bbc7b0a9f9d63f67e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qf06d858a92eab903785f","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":526,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:04:28.534Z","text":"检方完全可以张冠李戴","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf06d858a92eab903785f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qa07fd5b045560e095e17","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":527,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:05:02.404Z","text":"最关键的是 之前王告过西诺 因为西诺通过非法手段拿到了王的医疗记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa07fd5b045560e095e17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q9fae2981acd73f35833a","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":528,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:05:30.566Z","text":"我估计代孕就是检方用西诺的非法纪录做证据的 还讹到了王认罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fae2981acd73f35833a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qcbe1f1730f307471c541","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":529,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:06:02.333Z","text":"所以 又是辩方律师[屏蔽词]搞的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbe1f1730f307471c541","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qd0b0c1febc96805e6f44","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":530,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:06:36.074Z","text":"还有 他们说代孕是用的蚂蚁的钱 我觉得是瞎扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0b0c1febc96805e6f44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qa936d8204f57471059f4","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":531,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:06:52.571Z","text":"王怀孕 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你怎么看","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q989c20eb8e966c44a078","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q367c5560ec3dda2cea95","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":546,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:12:35.701Z","text":"王要么是特务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q367c5560ec3dda2cea95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q69916aa3abb471de5932","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":547,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:12:46.659Z","text":"要么 这里面 辩方律师诈骗客户认罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69916aa3abb471de5932","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qb09e4b696001a2a22dad","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":548,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:12:52.621Z","text":"这问题不是一般的大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09e4b696001a2a22dad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qdeb953eaa6c07612c917","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":549,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T07:13:04.725Z","text":"当然 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不怪法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23216cbff9ed7be9019d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q14e1492ed76fbdc0bc15","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":562,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T08:45:58.364Z","text":"就怪联盟和律师 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81-8","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe2dcbe05525e303698f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fa3c7e3778cf103336b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe2dcbe05525e303698f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qc327232bf0157f842f40","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":566,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-09-29T11:21:10.143Z","text":"烧电焊也比投喜国好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q04b32ca6d5cdb32c9436","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc327232bf0157f842f40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qcdb8ea3fa79bf7fe9bc4","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":567,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T11:30:02.872Z","text":"那必须谢谢你，是的，当时是你在群里回答了我的疑虑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0ba7dae384542940987","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdb8ea3fa79bf7fe9bc4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0ba7dae384542940987","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qcc472dd19ad1aafdd36f","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":568,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T11:35:27.304Z","text":"那我们投资人必须赶紧追加这个动议。不然钱已经被分光了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9106088fb04001298298","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc472dd19ad1aafdd36f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9106088fb04001298298","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qaece5fb765fc501cf8ec","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":569,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T11:37:50.329Z","text":"李强去纽约了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f3c4188a4387643a399","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaece5fb765fc501cf8ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f3c4188a4387643a399","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q83402c0fd134bae4f463","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":570,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T12:32:15.263Z","text":"催促政府执行没收和第三方争议处理不矛盾吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9106088fb04001298298","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83402c0fd134bae4f463","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9106088fb04001298298","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qce7226fb7598877111b6","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":571,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-29T12:45:34.744Z","text":"不矛盾。先转为司法冻结。转为司法冻结是没收的一环。现在有些初步没收令范围内的财产还在luc控制之下。第三方需要更进一步，政府也不相信，要交给独立第三方保管。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83402c0fd134bae4f463","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7226fb7598877111b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83402c0fd134bae4f463","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qc506d9b09e76466b3d2c","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":572,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-29T12:47:40.390Z","text":"第三方关心的是，财产不能被luc挥霍，不能被虚假索赔瓜分。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc506d9b09e76466b3d2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qf76531c02258346205e3","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":573,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T13:10:37.547Z","text":"是的。这他吗还需要机器人总结？ 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这是啥情况","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5a1455adde3fbd6d047","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q8cccd4e2088a228acff7","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":576,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T15:34:40.322Z","text":"这怎么有个瑞恩的名字 这是瑞恩最新提交的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cccd4e2088a228acff7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qe0cb83fc971574017386","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":577,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T15:37:29.920Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ \n［用户 sar***］ \n我们要把更多的法庭文件，喂给ai，可以让ai找出文件里更多的破绽。我相信，一定可以找到 ，而且会比律师好得多。\n\n谁有收费版的多喂一点。\n免费版的只能一天喂五个文件。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0cb83fc971574017386","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qbec4432a39eac1ebf0f2","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":578,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T15:39:25.894Z","text":"我不认为有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0cb83fc971574017386","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbec4432a39eac1ebf0f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0cb83fc971574017386","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qb233adb1a15a56106507","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":579,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T15:39:29.931Z","text":"你必须自己发现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb233adb1a15a56106507","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qc03137634069580ada75","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":580,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T15:39:40.177Z","text":"司法欺诈就是我自己发现的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc03137634069580ada75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qdb0d4c03486b2792dcb3","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":581,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T15:40:05.332Z","text":"那个落款是你吗 是发现翻译造假了吗？好多涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb0d4c03486b2792dcb3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q843a8dc6edb6834ab731","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":582,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T15:40:23.263Z","text":"或者叫翻译欺诈，妨碍司法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q843a8dc6edb6834ab731","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q5591813184e214f7d565","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":583,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T15:43:21.493Z","text":"那个是[屏蔽词]检察官","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5591813184e214f7d565","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qacc5ab2d2e446b1ebcb3","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":584,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T15:43:59.691Z","text":"那个是达米安威廉姆斯 搞七哥的那个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacc5ab2d2e446b1ebcb3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q2aa7f77ef259d60dfb6f","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":585,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-29T17:09:04.616Z","text":"同名的人很多的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa7f77ef259d60dfb6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q71b1f9b406262cc0d307","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":586,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T18:08:55.257Z","text":"打电话 问，第三方 因为隐私 不再上传的 号码多少？  我问问 ［用户 ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71b1f9b406262cc0d307","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qa327d7d019347932130c","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":587,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T18:20:36.492Z","text":"212-805-0175，你问啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71b1f9b406262cc0d307","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa327d7d019347932130c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71b1f9b406262cc0d307","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qd1a194528ed8e89a5de4","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":588,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T18:26:36.038Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 第三方还有几天？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1a194528ed8e89a5de4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q312f78708290349d81c2","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":589,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T18:27:15.273Z","text":"23天","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q312f78708290349d81c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qcd26d00a140baf8231b8","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":590,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T18:27:19.414Z","text":"问现在第三方还是否上传  是不是因为保护隐私 不上传，不上传是否影响法律依据  后期分配","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa327d7d019347932130c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd26d00a140baf8231b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa327d7d019347932130c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qadbfb41a31a2e0cc9125","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":591,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T18:27:22.381Z","text":"ok 够了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadbfb41a31a2e0cc9125","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q4884693b636cadd7a6ef","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":592,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T18:28:32.284Z","text":"等还剩一周的时候 最好还是这个样子 那样我会小火收汁 直接收割他们的精神","edited":false,"reply_to":"q312f78708290349d81c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4884693b636cadd7a6ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q312f78708290349d81c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q6ec489e5dccf5c360b15","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":593,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T18:28:32.426Z","text":"你直接说，法院有保护隐私的办法，不让上传是犯法行为","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd26d00a140baf8231b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ec489e5dccf5c360b15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd26d00a140baf8231b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q582c9e44641bfeb2a499","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":594,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-29T18:29:03.563Z","text":"等我走到mandamus的时候 才是他们灾难降临的时候","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q582c9e44641bfeb2a499","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"qa19b4a3eb2d1b366486f","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":595,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T18:29:09.926Z","text":"😂 这太凶了  他没有冒犯我 我不能这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ec489e5dccf5c360b15","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa19b4a3eb2d1b366486f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ec489e5dccf5c360b15","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q893e74d7d2abe61ce1ff","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":596,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T18:29:29.807Z","text":"你怕啥，你是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa19b4a3eb2d1b366486f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893e74d7d2abe61ce1ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa19b4a3eb2d1b366486f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q8136323e08a0274ce221","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":597,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T18:29:58.833Z","text":"no， 美国不是这样的哦，我没有事实依据，不能凶他哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q893e74d7d2abe61ce1ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8136323e08a0274ce221","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893e74d7d2abe61ce1ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q711d2f12e37bcd95069f","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":598,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T18:30:54.772Z","text":"当初 久指妖律师 给我发来 信函，我打电话过去问，给我发干什么  人家不搭理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q711d2f12e37bcd95069f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q88079b88a0741966554a","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":599,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T18:31:27.480Z","text":"你越客气越欺负你，人都这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88079b88a0741966554a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"},{"id":"q6eb1f0934d95e4d8152a","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":600,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T18:31:30.217Z","text":"第二次我打电话去，请问有什么我可以帮你的吗  我不理解，需要一些信息，助理马上帮我转 律师   而且耐心解答","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6eb1f0934d95e4d8152a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000042","next_batch_id":"batch-000044"}