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都在坑害受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5ef5ce1a7bd8300e8ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q07956faf153321b6aab8","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":83,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:55:22.410Z","text":"所以谁你都可以提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07956faf153321b6aab8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q2eb7310dac1b87edaa8d","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":84,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:55:48.096Z","text":"辩方律师系统性不当 渎职 导致检方欺诈法庭 受害人被检方和luc坑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eb7310dac1b87edaa8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q4fd1b6ccf7643431e5e4","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":85,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:56:09.483Z","text":"所以 辩方 检方 法院 所有程序 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让被告打rule33和检方官不当翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a5685ce472f3b8c1eb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q673812db32bd59a48329","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":91,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:58:38.257Z","text":"这案子不跳跃不行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8a1838ec4704dd2ad5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q673812db32bd59a48329","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8a1838ec4704dd2ad5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q0b08549c6766fa728744","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":92,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:58:43.182Z","text":"不跳跃根本不可能解决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b08549c6766fa728744","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q3a2b081c075b3adadad4","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":93,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:59:07.798Z","text":"正面打法是不可能赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a2b081c075b3adadad4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q3fcf621c1004da3b4a0c","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":94,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-30T23:59:20.667Z","text":"那你也要讲理啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fcf621c1004da3b4a0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q5bb4bccddec9100db875","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":95,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:59:27.061Z","text":"这些都是理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3fcf621c1004da3b4a0c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bb4bccddec9100db875","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fcf621c1004da3b4a0c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q931b8d056034fa833075","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":96,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-30T23:59:28.826Z","text":"不过你自己决定吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q931b8d056034fa833075","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q8009a1bacd6ac7fd05b2","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":97,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-30T23:59:40.097Z","text":"都是完美逻辑链也都是事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8009a1bacd6ac7fd05b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qc7f2edaebaf777e2b472","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":98,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-01T00:00:20.469Z","text":"你自己看着办吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7f2edaebaf777e2b472","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q593cace04dfd2247c001","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":99,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T00:00:51.042Z","text":"我已经打出去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q593cace04dfd2247c001","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qc4a39f7a492cf83b7264","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":100,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T00:01:14.448Z","text":"我让法官指导辩方律师打rule33和检察官不当","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4a39f7a492cf83b7264","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q915fbc909b7af013ae1c","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":101,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T00:01:40.657Z","text":"法官有本事给我下禁制令 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接下去法庭的节奏是我说了算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8877afa724db606ff189","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q13870a68f6bb8336667b","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":106,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T00:10:33.045Z","text":"这案子打正面是不可能赢的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13870a68f6bb8336667b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":107,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-01T00:30:04.646Z","text":"法官以尊重辩方的辩护策略为自己的正常量刑辩护，完全没有问题。因为被告可能根本不想再在南区浪费时间，而是走上诉直接无罪释放。现在能撬动法官回复第三方的是luc在挥霍本案财产，按照检方说法，初步没收令范围内的财产为被告犯罪所得，那luc就无权控制本案财产，应该转为司法冻结，现在检方在750一边说本案财产是诈骗所得，一边让luc继续控制本案财产，还公然挑衅法庭说法官无权决定检方何时以及如何执行初步没收令。正常情况下，法官会在10月5日前下令冻结本案财产，直到进一步指示，不过看它们目前的疯狂，反正程序已经溃烂了，再烂一些也无所谓。接下来，法官也不保护本案财产，第三方请求法官保护本案财产，法官用不上传动议的隐私在程序上卡着，你上诉，责任最多追究到书记处。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qf9fc65fd4bac02a302a8","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":108,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T00:32:12.871Z","text":"对的 反正程序都已经完全毁坏 受害人也可以为所欲为 想干啥干啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9fc65fd4bac02a302a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q6091d8ff8f39239caa67","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":109,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T00:34:04.703Z","text":"法官如果判定没收 那我下一个大招肯定要打出去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6091d8ff8f39239caa67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qc0e8251ebe715f9978f9","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":110,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T00:48:28.570Z","text":"二巡好像制衡相当有力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0e8251ebe715f9978f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qdc9041745750e4ac1f54","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":111,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-01T01:34:40.585Z","text":"你这个问题非常现实，我给你拆解一下 “如果法院坚决不 docket” 的几条对策：\n\n⸻\n\n1. 确认程序是否合格\n\n书记处（Pro Se Intake Unit）拒绝 docket，常见借口是：\n    •    没有手写签名 / 日期；\n    •    附件超过 15MB；\n    •    文件没有明确写案件号；\n    •    Public / Sealed 版没有区分；\n    •    Cover Letter 不清楚。\n\n👉 所以第一步一定要 保证格式无懈可击。\n你现在的文件已经有：签名位、案件号、Cover Letter、公版/密封版区分。形式上已经合格，不该被挡。\n\n⸻\n\n2. 要求书记处书面回复\n    •    如果你发过去，他们既不 docket，又不回复理由，你可以在下一封邮件里写：\n\n“Pursuant to Fed. R. Crim. P. 49 and SDNY Pro Se Filing Rules, I request a written explanation why this submission is not docketed. Please preserve all related records.”\n\n👉 这样你就形成证据：书记处在程序上阻碍你行使 CVRA 权利。\n\n⸻\n\n3. 向法官间接“送达”\n    •    如果书记处拦截，你可以把相同文件直接抄送到 Chambers of Judge Torres（托雷斯法官办公室邮箱/传真，通常在法官网页上会列）。\n    •    同时写一句：\n\n“Because the Pro Se Intake Unit repeatedly refused to docket this motion, I respectfully submit a courtesy copy directly to Chambers.”\n\n👉 这样至少法官助理会知道你提交过，不会完全消失。\n\n⸻\n\n4. 向受害人渠道备案\n    •    你也可以同步把文件发到 Victim/Witness Coordinator（受害人办公室），并注明：\n\n“For record purposes, attached is my CVRA motion which the Clerk refused to docket.”\n\n👉 这虽然不会改变 docket，但会形成政府内部留痕。\n\n⸻\n\n5. 走二巡 Mandamus\n    •    CVRA 明确给了你一个救济工具：18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3) – Mandamus。\n    •    内容就是：如果地方法院“未能保护受害人权利”，你可以直接向第二巡回上诉法院递交 mandamus，请求强制 SDNY 接收和裁决你的动议。\n    •    这是“最后的杀手锏”，也是法律保障你不被完全噤声的手段。\n\n⸻\n\n6. 实务建议\n    •    短期：继续提交（你现在有 Public + Sealed + Cover Letter，没理由不 docket）。\n    •    中期：如果 2–3 次仍不 docket，立即发 要求解释邮件，并 cc 法官 Chambers。\n    •    长期：准备一份 Mandamus 草稿，随时递交到二巡。\n\n⸻\n\n✅ 总结：\n如果他们坚决不 docket，你并不是“没办法”，而是要 制造证据链：\n    1.    我提交了 → 书记处拒收；\n    2.    我要求解释 → 书记处沉默；\n    3.    我抄送法官 → 仍不作为；\n    4.    我走二巡 mandamus。\n\n这样你就是一路合规上去，责任全在书记处和法院。\n\n⸻\n\n要不要我帮你写一个 Mandamus 草稿提纲（简洁版），方便你一旦被拒绝，就能立即递交到第二巡回？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc9041745750e4ac1f54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q2add7ab1a6b7aadb3044","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":112,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-01T02:24:10.853Z","text":"“按照检方说法，初步没收令范围内的财产为被告犯罪所得，那luc就无权控制本案财产，应该转为司法冻结，现在检方在750一边说本案财产是诈骗所得，一边让luc继续控制本案财产……”——你還沒有走出聯盟敘事。\n\n我們很多戰友還在聯盟大V嘻嘻哈哈的敘事裡：”一邊破產庭說錢是郭先生的，一邊刑事庭說錢不是郭先生的，而是詐騙所得，兩者矛盾。”\n\n實際上破產庭和刑事庭根本就沒有矛盾，破產庭的邏輯是：破產申請人郭先生隱匿資產，而被隱匿的資產就在眾多alter ego即那些被破產申請人實質控制的公司裡，Luc作為受託人追查所有可能隱匿資產的代理公司，包括各類G系列實體和房產、其他資產控股公司，他都希望納入進來，不過需要說明的是破產庭承認了一部分尚未全部認可。\n\n而刑事庭檢方認為G系列是詐騙工具，受害者的財產被通過電信欺詐等手段藏匿其中，並作為洗錢通道。二者並不矛盾，相反是”自洽”的。\n\n聯盟大V連基本的法律邏輯、法庭語言都理解不了，怎麼可能還去分析案情。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2add7ab1a6b7aadb3044","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q21bfceff921e44c1d558","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":113,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-01T02:28:19.333Z","text":"戰友們沒有看錯，我說的就是聯盟法桶的水平，飯桶不如。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21bfceff921e44c1d558","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q2f42d3c0fecb0baef099","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":114,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-01T03:10:03.451Z","text":"不是书记处，是法官办公室决定上不上传","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f42d3c0fecb0baef099","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e219aa9f934fafe2569","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qf82eedd4842106eab304","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":115,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-01T03:11:03.978Z","text":"不用寄给法官，法官已经能看到，他们只是不上传到公共案卷里","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc9041745750e4ac1f54","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf82eedd4842106eab304","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc9041745750e4ac1f54","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qfcdd33e3de3c742da805","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":116,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-01T03:12:05.125Z","text":"他不是饭桶，他是故意错误解读","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21bfceff921e44c1d558","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcdd33e3de3c742da805","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21bfceff921e44c1d558","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q4dd102dce08a09e304bd","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":117,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-01T03:25:10.372Z","text":"那你是高估她們的腦子了，她們沒有那個智商，她們的腦子是用在別的地方，比如貪幣貪卡，賺取名聲，抱政客大腿。她們沒能力解讀更不可能做局去誤讀，那會累死她們的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfcdd33e3de3c742da805","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dd102dce08a09e304bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcdd33e3de3c742da805","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q3a0c124a42e7020c553d","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":118,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-01T03:27:17.954Z","text":"當然這都不是我們最應該關注的重點，本案的突破點還是Luc，等案情突破後這些爛人不必費什麼力氣就能解決，她們自己都能把自己解決了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a0c124a42e7020c553d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q85e90619d5dd14e90d60","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":119,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-01T03:27:51.310Z","text":"每次都能解读错，每次都能传出假消息，没一次真的，没一次对的，这就不是傻那么简单了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4dd102dce08a09e304bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85e90619d5dd14e90d60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dd102dce08a09e304bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qd2c57cbb5e18623c208b","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":120,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-01T03:28:36.888Z","text":"再傻也能蒙对几次，每次都假每次都错就是故意的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2c57cbb5e18623c208b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qa9ec1fde31dde920a0ea","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":121,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-01T03:28:41.780Z","text":"簡單的很，她們不如飯桶。腳踏兩隻船、自己私利第一。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9ec1fde31dde920a0ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q13c6ba33617f4826c4da","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":122,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-01T03:28:57.226Z","text":"还统一口径","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9ec1fde31dde920a0ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachmen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之前路大脑袋第一期砸郭的时候 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不算欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q235c8ad432302108b698","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qba4c4d783107d0135c49","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":139,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T05:32:32.806Z","text":"系统性 多次违规 多法庭违规 持续两年 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这些[屏蔽词]律师 把我733拿出来照葫芦画瓢 搞rule33和misconduct with 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思考没毛病，但要去考证，而不是唯我独尊，装大尾巴狼","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbcd1201eae11079a5e8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a75ff81f05a13302f74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbcd1201eae11079a5e8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q39b3f2b047f7c2873e02","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":170,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-01T06:51:19.568Z","text":"二巡一半多一点点是民主党提名的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39b3f2b047f7c2873e02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q5785ed6cb53bc7e7b54b","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":171,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-01T06:52:08.284Z","text":"所以大家要多多去二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5785ed6cb53bc7e7b54b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q24ab73d71defb673ede8","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":172,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-01T06:58:47.515Z","text":"14个主要的里5个特朗普提名的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24ab73d71defb673ede8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q890a7dd4ca63776e3497","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":173,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-01T07:16:38.060Z","text":"第二巡回要是不作为","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0a87857eefc9a36a317","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q890a7dd4ca63776e3497","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a87857eefc9a36a317","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q4189efb7892db100573f","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":174,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-01T07:16:49.108Z","text":"一起拉下水","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4189efb7892db100573f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qc1798753add34fd3dee1","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":175,"speaker":"aiz***","date":"2025-10-01T07:21:30.041Z","text":"https://x.com/azyt/status/1973186746528489689?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1798753add34fd3dee1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qdbc34837beb6c83c2483","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":176,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-01T07:27:40.690Z","text":"［用户 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你去把文永请来，在这里开讲，行不行啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc34837beb6c83c2483","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qa552fc5e945a20abef7c","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":177,"speaker":"aiz***","date":"2025-10-01T07:29:51.193Z","text":"看我头像","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbc34837beb6c83c2483","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa552fc5e945a20abef7c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc34837beb6c83c2483","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q8b04ae4e4ff48730701d","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":178,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-01T07:31:19.246Z","text":"文永是不是也揭发小藤子啊？你面子大，去把他请过来，在这里说一下他的真话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa552fc5e945a20abef7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b04ae4e4ff48730701d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa552fc5e945a20abef7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qf2d62ddee36acf206ccd","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":179,"speaker":"aiz***","date":"2025-10-01T07:31:48.320Z","text":"我只看他的节目","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b04ae4e4ff48730701d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2d62ddee36acf206ccd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b04ae4e4ff48730701d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q872603ec324ace4bf578","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":180,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-01T07:37:20.012Z","text":"你文永大哥有没有揭发检方布雷迪违规检方欺诈法庭啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2d62ddee36acf206ccd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q872603ec324ace4bf578","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2d62ddee36acf206ccd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qa484e1a78442af2aab87","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":181,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-01T08:38:22.380Z","text":"文永走的小羊路线，当圣人准备接摊上位","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbc34837beb6c83c2483","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa484e1a78442af2aab87","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc34837beb6c83c2483","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qcae20afda1961b5bae6a","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":182,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-01T08:59:18.748Z","text":"［用户 hua***］ 黄河边先生来玩玩。\n［用户 sin***］ 西诺先生也来玩玩。咱们共谋一下","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcae20afda1961b5bae6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q3908ad3d1ec63067457a","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":183,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-01T09:13:06.439Z","text":"能否说说，对于你做的那期王艳平的背叛的视频，你是如何想的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3908ad3d1ec63067457a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q630129e345cbb318fa10","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":184,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-01T09:14:33.392Z","text":"这么难得的机会，扯那些虾兵蟹将干啥。聊聊法官不给上传动议的看法呗 ［用户 wei***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qdd4fe2f3ebccd53fe620","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q630129e345cbb318fa10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q2165a63affecadb8f8da","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":185,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-01T09:16:05.180Z","text":"因为我是第一次从那个视频里得知王艳平叛变的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q630129e345cbb318fa10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2165a63affecadb8f8da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q630129e345cbb318fa10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qce9726690f251b7f6bfb","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":186,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-01T09:24:23.353Z","text":"她毛都不是，抓主干","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2165a63affecadb8f8da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce9726690f251b7f6bfb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2165a63affecadb8f8da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qe80828554f56387549c2","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":187,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-01T09:30:02.074Z","text":"谢谢，法官不给上传动议在意料之中，这是一场司法战，在战争中，只有找到敌人的软肋才能获胜。目前法庭上几方势力都在角斗，我们只能用他们的漏洞借力打力了。这个案子荒唐至极，很多地方法庭命令都是自相矛盾。七哥在A10项目的时候为什么强调我们要的是人头数，只有法庭上有足够多的人头数才行。不管是受害人，债权人，第三方，利益相关人，都可以去法庭上要自己的利益。人数够多的时候，我们就赢了。这个案子就没法判了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe80828554f56387549c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qb4f0fde88f368d8b5413","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":188,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-01T09:30:46.980Z","text":"人数不够的时候，提什么他们都可以做到无视。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f0fde88f368d8b5413","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q045dc1789adff5848503","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":189,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-01T09:31:44.632Z","text":"所以，上动议的还是太少？可法院书记处说处理不过来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4f0fde88f368d8b5413","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q045dc1789adff5848503","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f0fde88f368d8b5413","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q3686a3ce677049528e1a","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":190,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-01T09:31:59.189Z","text":"本来这个案子就是来抢钱的，从第一天就是。七哥几千个直播都在讲这个案子，就为了这一天。如果输了这个案子，就彻底失败。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3686a3ce677049528e1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q3ee369d03951984c5612","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":191,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-01T09:34:08.444Z","text":"问题是信息渠道还是被灭爆垄断，，大部分人没有渠道了解情况，这个群也是熬了小半年才这么几个人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3686a3ce677049528e1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ee369d03951984c5612","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3686a3ce677049528e1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q49927ad89568fee35d6c","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":192,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-01T09:39:45.852Z","text":"美国政府要抢的是盗国贼家族盗走中国人的二十万亿美金，这些钱都在这个案子里相关。联盟农场都是盗国贼的贼子贼孙，用Rico定罪郭先生，目标可不是法庭上战友投资款13亿那一点点，才是个零头。他们要的，是这些所有人背后牵涉到的家族基金，Rico是有权利没收相关人和公司合法财产的。所以，要让联盟和农场这帮人明白，他们最应该去法庭保财保命。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49927ad89568fee35d6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"qa9cfe3feb8f74162340c","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":193,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-01T09:41:48.282Z","text":"联盟农场那些[屏蔽词]，就是智障。老郭被最终定罪，他们也不会有好下场。老郭赢了，他们更不会有好下场。奇怪的是，那些[屏蔽词]铁板一块，没有一个人反水！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q49927ad89568fee35d6c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9cfe3feb8f74162340c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49927ad89568fee35d6c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000044"},{"id":"q9d3e258a087246c50694","batch_id":"batch-000044","seq":194,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-01T09:42:27.344Z","text":"就是找不到有效的渠道让更多人知道和明白，再加上有一群人唱反调","edited":false,"reply_t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