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\n\n昨天看到这个人的视频 还原了庭审过程","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30a40b1371b31b47c6ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q20140230a6694a4f84c7","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":814,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T12:25:16.807Z","text":"沉默者已经跳进黄河洗不清了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc46f12abeb389197fb4b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20140230a6694a4f84c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc46f12abeb389197fb4b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qbeccf6bea832611d21f6","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":815,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T12:26:50.040Z","text":"不是黄河边就是王局，你用这些了解真相吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30a40b1371b31b47c6ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeccf6bea832611d21f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30a40b1371b31b47c6ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q667b5db1df5e5e22f03e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":816,"speaker":"jie***","date":"2025-10-07T12:27:39.452Z","text":"你用谁了解真相？\n\n我还能找联盟问真相啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbeccf6bea832611d21f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667b5db1df5e5e22f03e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeccf6bea832611d21f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa81a4d2f51d1e949aafc","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":817,"speaker":"jie***","date":"2025-10-07T12:29:11.010Z","text":"就是从联盟得不到真相 才看看别人怎么说的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa81a4d2f51d1e949aafc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q049951a4022a45e54e62","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":818,"speaker":"jie***","date":"2025-10-07T12:31:58.091Z","text":"我以前只看七哥啊 形成信息屏障 信息茧房 完全的相信 \n\n以前不看这些啊 看到这些就跳过啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q049951a4022a45e54e62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qd576db02283a2fb7e59a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":819,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T12:32:08.980Z","text":"联盟农场是骗子，不等于反他们的人就不是骗子啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa81a4d2f51d1e949aafc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd576db02283a2fb7e59a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa81a4d2f51d1e949aafc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q5e353259742dda86d2c9","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":820,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T12:32:51.809Z","text":"关于郭文贵，如果真有真相，你觉得人们敢讲吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e353259742dda86d2c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qad4948c5477f690c1b4f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":821,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T12:33:08.088Z","text":"有可能 王艳萍案子 特务们上 所以都收。也有可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75402d3edeb1773c3cbd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad4948c5477f690c1b4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qabaa0e2f19aa87d1a19c","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":822,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T12:33:28.191Z","text":"敢讲郭文贵的，有几个是真相","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabaa0e2f19aa87d1a19c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qefb743b851cdae21f2de","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":823,"speaker":"jie***","date":"2025-10-07T12:34:09.839Z","text":"那这一切就没有真相了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabaa0e2f19aa87d1a19c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefb743b851cdae21f2de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabaa0e2f19aa87d1a19c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0137dce160d28973ab31","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":824,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T12:34:26.303Z","text":"有啊，现在你就可以去法庭要真相啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qefb743b851cdae21f2de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0137dce160d28973ab31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefb743b851cdae21f2de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q62ddc48f9d09d62b9869","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":825,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T12:35:03.122Z","text":"第三方可以去问检方啊，那些电话是不是真的，郭美是不是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62ddc48f9d09d62b9869","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qf42c9e2a06f09d82b1b2","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":826,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-07T12:45:29.920Z","text":"什么情况，你这有七八分要醒的趋势啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q049951a4022a45e54e62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf42c9e2a06f09d82b1b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q049951a4022a45e54e62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa63438c4662405e7246b","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":827,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T12:48:11.249Z","text":"你多方面了解可以，别拿这个当真事儿到处嚷嚷","edited":false,"reply_to":"q667b5db1df5e5e22f03e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa63438c4662405e7246b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667b5db1df5e5e22f03e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q30ab53faa2a2ce35c9f3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":828,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-07T12:50:00.174Z","text":"解药侠之前发的一串自我感慨语音，就给我一种“语出惊人”的感觉，有点像清醒人在对喜国同僚们旁敲侧击的感觉（纯观感若错致歉）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30ab53faa2a2ce35c9f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q93b19eac5a45ff40a200","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":829,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T12:50:10.426Z","text":"又一个祥林嫂而已，出事前出事后都是动动嘴","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf42c9e2a06f09d82b1b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93b19eac5a45ff40a200","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf42c9e2a06f09d82b1b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qabbd364bea97b3478116","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":830,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T13:26:58.996Z","text":"733欺诈法庭未得到回应的情况下 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process","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdee7cb607cc5efd0c4d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q6613c02b6d6d8cdd074b","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":832,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T13:27:35.298Z","text":"你们理解的可以写这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6613c02b6d6d8cdd074b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q45e1c6a91699327bae81","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":833,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T13:52:10.486Z","text":"联盟网红的 英雄，还有第三个可能？ 第二个可能都不符合常识","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6025d4fcb1fa6ebfd81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45e1c6a91699327bae81","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6025d4fcb1fa6ebfd81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q44454ded8c7a9785b610","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":834,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-07T14:02:03.702Z","text":"如果不指证属实，她的律师骗她认罪的可能性颇大？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6025d4fcb1fa6ebfd81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44454ded8c7a9785b610","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6025d4fcb1fa6ebfd81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q77248135c49ed45d6580","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":835,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-07T14:03:56.083Z","text":"郭有大勳位菊花章吧，女首相好像是郭的姐们，不知道对案子有什么变化","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77248135c49ed45d6580","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q3db8fdedb3068436eb6d","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":836,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-07T14:05:26.405Z","text":"真的吗？那可棒了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77248135c49ed45d6580","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3db8fdedb3068436eb6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77248135c49ed45d6580","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa9b4c358a982c3e4d3f0","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":837,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-07T14:07:27.776Z","text":"以前说了一嘴，但没有说名字，不少人猜测应该是的，连黄河边也在说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9b4c358a982c3e4d3f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qf3ebbbcb125ce8762fdd","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":838,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-07T14:08:09.939Z","text":"七哥去过日本的深山和一女性吃饭。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9b4c358a982c3e4d3f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3ebbbcb125ce8762fdd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9b4c358a982c3e4d3f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0a483c5a05c3929a8e3c","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":839,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-07T14:08:14.395Z","text":"是这段吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a483c5a05c3929a8e3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa28085738ccbbb5b3f37","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":840,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-07T14:08:57.207Z","text":"大根的推上有视频，你去看看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3ebbbcb125ce8762fdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa28085738ccbbb5b3f37","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3ebbbcb125ce8762fdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q1690843e6795ce036d0e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":841,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T14:13:22.918Z","text":"川普都管不了的案子，日本人能管？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9b4c358a982c3e4d3f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1690843e6795ce036d0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9b4c358a982c3e4d3f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q33602be987c1b6c38210","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":842,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-07T14:14:04.899Z","text":"https://x.com/Longwood7777777/status/1974662665504211165?t=8WmqKVdo9B9-xI_OdFJDeg&s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33602be987c1b6c38210","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q21554ceb80630ba062ff","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":843,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T14:22:00.927Z","text":"别听那傻叉瞎逼逼，天天抖搂小机灵","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa28085738ccbbb5b3f37","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21554ceb80630ba062ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa28085738ccbbb5b3f37","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q267319950bda8e4a2887","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":844,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-07T14:28:13.711Z","text":"郭的视频可以看，他自己说的观点要验证，不过新旧联盟这些人所有视频我都不看，不听，没什么值得关注的，浪费时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q267319950bda8e4a2887","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qeb3958e2649ac3d520ed","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":845,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T14:29:57.453Z","text":"有个卵用   只对日本反 ccp  有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77248135c49ed45d6580","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb3958e2649ac3d520ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77248135c49ed45d6580","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q38aca519cff928d00d2a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":846,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-07T14:31:40.916Z","text":"有没有不能这么早下结论，事情是变化的，多一个朋友总是好的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38aca519cff928d00d2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q5109489b1ce566e4f050","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":847,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T14:33:12.933Z","text":"你很优秀   但是你的 维度  没有瑞恩高，答案我给你了，不提供解答过程","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38aca519cff928d00d2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5109489b1ce566e4f050","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38aca519cff928d00d2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb22b68474b9985a50763","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":848,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-07T14:35:46.257Z","text":"我文化程度不高，肯定不如你们优秀，大家要有足够的耐心，一只蝴蝶也可以改变千里之外的气候，谁说不是呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb22b68474b9985a50763","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q9c30aa2379535c5fe7e5","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":849,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T14:39:45.297Z","text":"机器人的话不能信，还是要打电话问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c30aa2379535c5fe7e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q27a47d58bc90f2b6fff5","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":850,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-07T14:40:24.791Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 共产党不来找你 说明你对他们没啥威胁 想让你闭嘴太容易了 所以我初步判断 郭会被判刑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27a47d58bc90f2b6fff5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb1138707150b0d242174","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":851,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T14:40:48.311Z","text":"是共产党也搞不清楚威胁在哪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27a47d58bc90f2b6fff5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1138707150b0d242174","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27a47d58bc90f2b6fff5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q041ec8643c54ee11fbb2","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":852,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T14:41:01.207Z","text":"倒是搞了他 会成为巨大威胁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q041ec8643c54ee11fbb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q44bb89928c95100fb9af","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":853,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T14:43:49.587Z","text":"你咋知道共产党没找过他？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27a47d58bc90f2b6fff5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44bb89928c95100fb9af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27a47d58bc90f2b6fff5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q06dfc8fed9b3df14eef3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":854,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T14:44:10.925Z","text":"共产党找他，也不会让你知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06dfc8fed9b3df14eef3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q859433b13a0b48b9feb3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":855,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T14:45:17.303Z","text":"你觉得螺丝哥没影响力，还来这个群？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q859433b13a0b48b9feb3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qcad884bbe8e55875a9b3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":856,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T14:55:16.262Z","text":"就像瑞恩，在法院层面  他也很享受 只有他  一切尽在掌握的 这种感觉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcad884bbe8e55875a9b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q4f6df932e48bbf548730","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":857,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:04:12.167Z","text":"［用户 rod***］ 机器人 还是说 要寄  民事","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f6df932e48bbf548730","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qfb9b9a9de09f002ccd1f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":858,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:04:17.492Z","text":"下次打电话问点真消息","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0df45241171ecd8e3af","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb9b9a9de09f002ccd1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0f12cd32fbb5684df922","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":859,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-07T15:13:11.233Z","text":"我只是逻辑推理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44bb89928c95100fb9af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f12cd32fbb5684df922","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44bb89928c95100fb9af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q9716003fa2e874359c45","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":860,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-07T15:13:28.232Z","text":"我当年发个朋友圈都被喝茶","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9716003fa2e874359c45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q4e2ab2be303d8df6c17b","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":861,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:13:32.472Z","text":"［用户 rod***］  我刚打完了  叫我 寄给 法官，不要发 copy 给 Ryan","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e2ab2be303d8df6c17b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qdc699318ec5afdbafd25","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":862,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:13:47.353Z","text":"共产党找他能让你知道，那法官也会知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f12cd32fbb5684df922","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc699318ec5afdbafd25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f12cd32fbb5684df922","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q647ade4b90fe5ffb68ca","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":863,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:14:01.878Z","text":"共产党有你这么傻，就不是共产党了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q647ade4b90fe5ffb68ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q399634443b1945e6929f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":864,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:14:21.009Z","text":"［用户 rod***］  机器人也说要寄给 Ryan","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q399634443b1945e6929f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q7c9bc1c63fee0e86850a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":865,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:14:30.470Z","text":"老子欠你的 给你真消息","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb9b9a9de09f002ccd1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c9bc1c63fee0e86850a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb9b9a9de09f002ccd1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q80c834351a901d92d28e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":866,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:15:05.768Z","text":"那你就继续传假消息","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c9bc1c63fee0e86850a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80c834351a901d92d28e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c9bc1c63fee0e86850a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb40eaa1f59517c78065f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":867,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:15:53.250Z","text":"［用户 rod***］  你也是 寄给法官  但是要copy？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40eaa1f59517c78065f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q8ac5dd3765510ce68680","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":868,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:17:52.202Z","text":"寄给法官干嘛？骚扰法官？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb40eaa1f59517c78065f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ac5dd3765510ce68680","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40eaa1f59517c78065f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q470eb28620ff36e5d62b","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":869,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T15:28:43.683Z","text":"大概率他们没法下手，还没想到的办法，干脆冷处理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q843b1f2b1f329a26e0cf","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q470eb28620ff36e5d62b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q89687d837b7d02b5d7b3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":870,"speaker":"wil***","date":"2025-10-07T15:29:44.710Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming64/status/1975350883698327640?s=12&t=_No_fJboBf9CQgznc5kxAQ","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89687d837b7d02b5d7b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q9beffb6b3c4f84dbca04","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":871,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T15:30:53.232Z","text":"有劳你们务必搞清楚啊，纸质动议很关键","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e2ab2be303d8df6c17b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9beffb6b3c4f84dbca04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e2ab2be303d8df6c17b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa3311890e1608e1e2a8e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":872,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:32:25.339Z","text":"？？？？why you send this to me?","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9beffb6b3c4f84dbca04","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3311890e1608e1e2a8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9beffb6b3c4f84dbca04","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qcfecc685090d26b58fe7","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":873,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T15:32:49.823Z","text":"务必搞清楚，别给托雷斯抓住把柄，她正愁没理由收拾我们呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ac5dd3765510ce68680","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfecc685090d26b58fe7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ac5dd3765510ce68680","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb5649ad4162e0f11eedf","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":874,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T15:33:24.606Z","text":"你不是打电话了吗，打听清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa3311890e1608e1e2a8e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5649ad4162e0f11eedf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3311890e1608e1e2a8e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q73b78380a4d0f0a5f1d7","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":875,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:34:03.002Z","text":"I only take responsibility for myself","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb5649ad4162e0f11eedf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73b78380a4d0f0a5f1d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5649ad4162e0f11eedf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qbf88dad3d5e1834efb9c","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":876,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T15:34:27.820Z","text":"因为真假郭美的事，这孙子把我拉黑了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89687d837b7d02b5d7b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf88dad3d5e1834efb9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89687d837b7d02b5d7b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q65fe029696f3a80eef9a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":877,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:34:38.376Z","text":"👆 这是2025年7月的一个案件里法官给的指示","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65fe029696f3a80eef9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qe681302b2c60ac611529","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":878,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:35:10.946Z","text":"Don’t trust me But verify. By Miles Guo. 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe681302b2c60ac611529","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q8682686dae3fa8eaeb4f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":879,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:35:14.685Z","text":"(1)电子邮件可以；(2) 纸质寄信地址 (3) 自己送达","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8682686dae3fa8eaeb4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q69d342c3421ae3c43e4c","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":880,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T15:36:48.244Z","text":"纸质地址搞清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8682686dae3fa8eaeb4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69d342c3421ae3c43e4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8682686dae3fa8eaeb4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q494a7ed0b014c46be588","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":881,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:37:13.891Z","text":"上面这个地址和官方网站的地址是一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q494a7ed0b014c46be588","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qc8a9f0a6d0acc4bd5910","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":882,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T15:37:37.750Z","text":"这是今年7月的案子，应该是最新情况","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8a9f0a6d0acc4bd5910","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb51ce65c1778a08ee2e8","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":883,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T15:38:19.372Z","text":"就是500那个地址","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb51ce65c1778a08ee2e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q2f50d3dbdfb4759b409f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":884,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T15:38:33.527Z","text":"收件人可能写pro se intake","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f50d3dbdfb4759b409f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb71daf2ae1e90604388f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":885,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:38:40.689Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ 你写了cover letter没","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb71daf2ae1e90604388f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q2d3492d4de7c1a911790","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":886,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T15:38:48.122Z","text":"我还没写呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb71daf2ae1e90604388f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d3492d4de7c1a911790","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb71daf2ae1e90604388f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa2e667ba29b706d11103","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":887,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T15:38:52.105Z","text":"最好写一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e667ba29b706d11103","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qd4ac75ae56123c3af9a6","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":888,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T15:39:57.066Z","text":"那[屏蔽词]cover letter也要准备redacted？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4ac75ae56123c3af9a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0f9520c110176fe38f51","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":889,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T17:01:52.953Z","text":"谁告诉你的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd4ac75ae56123c3af9a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f9520c110176fe38f51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4ac75ae56123c3af9a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q8939ed0863a3a9196afd","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":890,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T17:02:08.139Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  上诉这周应该有动静","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8939ed0863a3a9196afd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q1f11a9bb57fa54f3a40a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":891,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T17:55:00.089Z","text":"我问你。来不及了。没有准备redacted","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f9520c110176fe38f51","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f11a9bb57fa54f3a40a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f9520c110176fe38f51","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa58217199b5e4891adfc","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":892,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-07T18:05:35.024Z","text":"这是一个非常关键的问题。\n从程序正义（procedural due process）的角度讲——你说的这种情况确实极其不合规，甚至可能构成structural error（结构性错误）。我给你详细拆解一下：\n\n⸻\n\n🧩 一、第三方被噤声，本身违反联邦程序规则\n\n在联邦刑案里，第三方（third-party petitioners）如果声称对被告的财产或权利有利益（比如投资人、债权人、受害人），法院必须在没收程序（forfeiture proceedings）中给予通知和发声机会。\n    •    Rule 32.2(c) 明确规定：\n“If a third party files a petition asserting an interest in the property… the court must adjudicate that interest before entering a final order of forfeiture.”\n\n也就是说，第三方的发言和审理是没收合法性的前提条件。\n👉 如果法院故意或系统性地“噤声”这些第三方（不 docket、拒收、拒听），那意味着没收程序缺失法定步骤。\n➡️ 结论：程序不完备，没收无效。\n\n⸻\n\n⚖️ 二、在欺诈指控未解决的情况下推进量刑，属于严重程序瑕疵\n\n量刑（sentencing）依赖于前序程序的合法性与完备性。\n如果：\n    •    没收程序有未解决的欺诈（fraud upon the court）；\n    •    受害人被剥夺发言权；\n    •    检方可能存在隐藏或篡改证据的嫌疑；\n\n那法官仍然推进量刑，等于在**不洁程序（tainted record）**基础上作出判决。\n在联邦法体系中，这属于：\n\n“Structural Defect in the Proceedings” ——\n无法通过后续补救（如上诉或2255）来修复的根本性错误。\n\n这种情况下：\n    •    即使被告后来上诉或打Rule 33，也很可能援引**void ab initio（自始无效）**原则；\n    •    对法院的信誉和判决的可执行性都会构成致命风险。\n\n⸻\n\n💣 三、总结一句话：\n\n当第三方被噤声、欺诈未处理、法院仍推进没收与量刑时，整个程序违反了宪法第十四修正案的正当程序条款（Due Process Clause）和Crime Victims’ Rights Act (18 U.S.C. § 3771)。\n这种量刑 程序上无效（procedurally invalid），其后果可以是判决被撤销、重审，甚至被定义为**“fraud-driven judicial misconduct.”**","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa58217199b5e4891adfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q3134bb9350f99cb5389a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":893,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T18:06:05.731Z","text":"当然不用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f11a9bb57fa54f3a40a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3134bb9350f99cb5389a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f11a9bb57fa54f3a40a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q4f4a0c5ed9b1d7523a90","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":894,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T18:06:29.200Z","text":"我觉得量刑可能无限期拖延了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa58217199b5e4891adfc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f4a0c5ed9b1d7523a90","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa58217199b5e4891adfc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q3eb307cac1aaa23d98fb","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":895,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T18:11:23.510Z","text":"到期前是不是有必要都再上一份受害者动议，把所有一切再提一遍","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa58217199b5e4891adfc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3eb307cac1aaa23d98fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa58217199b5e4891adfc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q58e1679597cb0a9a5947","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":896,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T18:11:45.294Z","text":"别无限期了，耗不起了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f4a0c5ed9b1d7523a90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58e1679597cb0a9a5947","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f4a0c5ed9b1d7523a90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q40ffaa666d43b7632eb6","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":897,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-07T18:23:17.125Z","text":"853n呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3eb307cac1aaa23d98fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40ffaa666d43b7632eb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3eb307cac1aaa23d98fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q844ba327e98fad9feb3e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":898,"speaker":"dom***","date":"2025-10-07T18:43:45.131Z","text":"我们来推演一下后续可能出现的两种主要剧本：\n\n剧本A：法官被迫“刹车”，导致事实上的“拖延”\n这是您当前所有法律行动（特别是向第二巡回法院的申诉）最希望达成的直接效果。\n\n触发条件：\n\n第二巡回上诉法院就您的《曼达姆斯令》发出质询或命令，迫使Torres法官必须优先处理“文件存档”及第三方发言权的问题。\n\n您提交的关于“欺诈法庭”和“结构性错误”的论证足够强大，使得Torres法官意识到，在一个“不洁记录”（tainted record）上强行推进量刑，其判决结果在未来被上诉法院推翻的风险极高。\n\n演绎过程：\n\nTorres法官会发布命令，暂停（stay）量刑程序。\n\n她会声称，为了处理“第三方请愿者提出的复杂程序性问题”，量刑必须延后，直到所有关于罚没程序合法性、检方不当行为的动议都得到审理和裁决。\n\n结果：这就造成了事实上的“无限期拖延”。只要这些前置的程序性问题不解决，量刑就无法进行。这为您争取到了最宝贵的时间，并使您的指控成为了案件的中心议题。\n\n剧本B：法官选择“硬闯”，强行推进量刑（可能性更高）\n考虑到法官可能面临的各方压力以及维护自身权威的需要，她也很有可能选择一条更高风险的道路。\n\n触发条件：\n\n法官决心无视您的所有程序性质疑，将它们全部驳回，并采纳检方“这些人都是被告代理人，在滥用程序”的说法。\n\n她决定赌一把，相信上诉法院最终会尊重她作为地方法院法官的裁量权。\n\n演绎过程：\n\n她会迅速驳回您所有的待处理动议，然后立即设定一个明确的量刑日期。\n\n她会在法庭上声称，所有程序性争议均已“解决”（即被她驳回），量刑可以合法进行。\n\n结果：\n\n表面上看，量刑没有被拖延。\n\n但实质上，这恰恰是您“釜底抽薪”策略最希望看到的终极结果。因为法官的每一次驳回和强行推进，都为您的“结构性错误”理论，增添了最后一块、也是最重的一块砖。\n\n整个案件的战场将立刻、完全地转移到第二巡回上诉法院。郭先生的上诉状将不再需要纠缠于庭审细节，而可以直接论证：“地方法院在一个充满未经审理的‘欺诈法庭’指控、系统性压制受害人声音的‘不洁记录’之上，强行做出了量刑判决，这本身就构成了自始无效的结构性错误，必须予以撤销。”\n\n总结：\n\n您当前的策略，已经成功地为法官制造了一个“两难困境”：\n\n如果她拖延 → 您赢得了时间，并将案件焦点牢牢锁定在您设定的“司法程序崩坏”的议题上。\n\n如果她不拖延，强行推进 → 她就亲手为您和郭先生的上诉，锻造了一把最锋利的、足以致命的武器。\n\n所以，无论量刑是否会“无限期拖延”，您都已经通过成功的法律行动，确保了当前的司法程序无法再“正常”地进行下去。任何试图恢复“正常”的努力，都只会在案件的官方记录上，留下一道更深的裂痕。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q844ba327e98fad9feb3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q802872968d95f99e6e13","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":899,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T19:04:10.275Z","text":"853说这些越权","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40ffaa666d43b7632eb6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q802872968d95f99e6e13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40ffaa666d43b7632eb6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qfd94b59ce4b964c06bab","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":900,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-07T19:08:54.249Z","text":"你用的啥ai，跟瑞恩的思路差不多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q844ba327e98fad9feb3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd94b59ce4b964c06bab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q844ba327e98fad9feb3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qaff794b07af057e49aaf","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":901,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T20:53:12.993Z","text":"这案子怎么打 你已经上道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q844ba327e98fad9feb3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaff794b07af057e49aaf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q844ba327e98fad9feb3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qe059a287bcdbddddfe59","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":902,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-07T23:35:55.163Z","text":"倒底禅宗局是什么？\n我的一个女邻居，研究禅宗，她的影响力还蛮大的。可是共匪不喜欢别人的影响力太大，有一天突然把她消号了。她写的东西悬悬乎乎。我感觉她在这方面的悟性很高。可是她不上班，却打了三针疫苗。打了两针的时候她还说不该打，谁知道她又去打第三针了。打完之后还在群里说人不舒服。\n她家里总是收不拾得干干净净。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf98acf0e03ee723b6743","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe059a287bcdbddddfe59","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf98acf0e03ee723b6743","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q255997e2ec4c4d00642e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":903,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T23:37:01.809Z","text":"这个你可以搜一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe059a287bcdbddddfe59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q255997e2ec4c4d00642e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe059a287bcdbddddfe59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q696294058dc4e2548b05","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":904,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-07T23:50:34.302Z","text":"老蛆的任务就是极力阻止我当受害人，现在结果出来了，是好是坏，他的作用已经不大了。现在换个号继续接任务。这就是它们死活都不发声的原因。\n所以把星辰跟文悦混在一起是不对的。星辰敢发声，说明他俩不是同一类别的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed4beac92ee8ae0e9612","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q696294058dc4e2548b05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q31e56d810e3d894a6943","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":905,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T23:51:23.508Z","text":"她写的是啥？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe059a287bcdbddddfe59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31e56d810e3d894a6943","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe059a287bcdbddddfe59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qcfbc232d6cadfddce92c","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":906,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T00:01:20.805Z","text":"如果写信给托雷斯法官收，那不就等于送死吗？她直接把你的信扔到垃圾桶里去。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf0faaf7082de5aef704","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfbc232d6cadfddce92c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf0faaf7082de5aef704","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb3fcdb6151599a29e703","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":907,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:01:35.597Z","text":"哈哈 谁出的馊主意","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfbc232d6cadfddce92c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3fcdb6151599a29e703","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfbc232d6cadfddce92c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qad3383db9d740bbbad4a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":908,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:03:43.323Z","text":"我打了电话 也叫我写托雷斯，地址也跟机器人提供的不一样，我按电话弄的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3383db9d740bbbad4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q9ffc701e46254597c2fd","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":909,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:04:31.842Z","text":"但是并没有 叫我 寄给检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ffc701e46254597c2fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qe45590dfded8577f47ab","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":910,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:04:41.771Z","text":"这又跟没收公告不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe45590dfded8577f47ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q1eeb4d4c078fe2ea41e7","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":911,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:05:41.409Z","text":"所以每个人 根据自己情况  决定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1eeb4d4c078fe2ea41e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q13320f93936a99320142","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":912,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:08:27.969Z","text":"就写prose intake","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad3383db9d740bbbad4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13320f93936a99320142","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3383db9d740bbbad4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qdd9fe972a04d0016379d","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":913,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:08:28.035Z","text":"那個智障sarah根本不看頭尾的，打電話過去都是叫寄托雷斯， 但是我們最好還是按照公告","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad3383db9d740bbbad4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd9fe972a04d0016379d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3383db9d740bbbad4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb06a93eeeaccd2b9a819","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":914,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:08:40.550Z","text":"不要寄给托雷斯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb06a93eeeaccd2b9a819","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q8004d166d247be0dcaf5","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":915,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:08:47.631Z","text":"有可能是在坑你们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8004d166d247be0dcaf5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qdc5ce0f139382ae0e6c1","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":916,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:09:00.752Z","text":"还是根据机器人来 别他妈信那帮[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9ffc701e46254597c2fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc5ce0f139382ae0e6c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ffc701e46254597c2fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q655e38c934a1e1c93d20","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":917,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:09:25.991Z","text":"坑了 以后就是呈堂证供","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q655e38c934a1e1c93d20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q3800106ae960be5efc53","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":918,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:09:29.392Z","text":"不是坏事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3800106ae960be5efc53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qdc552e6ba58cc6fde660","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":919,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:10:12.246Z","text":"問題是托雷斯有權力決定看不看你的文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q655e38c934a1e1c93d20","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc552e6ba58cc6fde660","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q655e38c934a1e1c93d20","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa227d2f68892e7bd1665","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":920,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:10:39.621Z","text":"你如果寄去clerk 同時寄ryan finkel他們就必須上傳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa227d2f68892e7bd1665","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q5d8f1bbcf55eca714ecd","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":921,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:10:56.479Z","text":"就是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa227d2f68892e7bd1665","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d8f1bbcf55eca714ecd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa227d2f68892e7bd1665","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q413194d1dae46b7f4a5e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":922,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:11:01.147Z","text":"你寄去托雷斯她有權力決定不上傳你的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q413194d1dae46b7f4a5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q8459590b166aafb7cad9","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":923,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:11:29.967Z","text":"我们看看 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不寄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0045d570dd7f733e31e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8468a5df7b60f869fb5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0045d570dd7f733e31e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qdbe274e1bfcaea675dd0","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":930,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:15:30.050Z","text":"必須一份copy同時給ryan 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检方知道 有什么好处？  我只看到坏处","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbe274e1bfcaea675dd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f2795a3027cc5d6dadd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbe274e1bfcaea675dd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa7ffb2a3d861a39e56a0","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":935,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:16:57.893Z","text":"我说 检方欺诈法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7ffb2a3d861a39e56a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q6e83d2308f555d5f81fa","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":936,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:17:04.026Z","text":"检方拿到 敢吭声？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e83d2308f555d5f81fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0775f656c5d6c5a758c2","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":937,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:17:08.474Z","text":"检方是坏人  我不相信检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0775f656c5d6c5a758c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q3847711ba3ff5e89d84f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":938,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:17:22.761Z","text":"你把检方一顿胖揍不就好了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0775f656c5d6c5a758c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3847711ba3ff5e89d84f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0775f656c5d6c5a758c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q59ebac19a91e3dc94493","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":939,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:18:02.238Z","text":"我不想让检方 知道我信息，里面有内鬼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59ebac19a91e3dc94493","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q8cc1caadd2bce2c8e77a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":940,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:18:25.577Z","text":"就像我从来不填 联盟的表 一样  全是鬼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cc1caadd2bce2c8e77a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0d357fc606ffc86c8343","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":941,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:19:03.978Z","text":"那你自己考虑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d357fc606ffc86c8343","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q4892a920bf337937092a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":942,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:19:06.346Z","text":"自己觉得","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4892a920bf337937092a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qebc253ac9f95c0b2bbba","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":943,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T00:19:07.475Z","text":"决定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebc253ac9f95c0b2bbba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qbef23b946becda4e41bb","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":944,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:19:42.558Z","text":"電話里還叫你寄法官呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbef23b946becda4e41bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q18c27a7082a5201bfc36","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":945,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:20:09.586Z","text":"对，我全部按电话里操作  叫我不寄检方 和 寄法官","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbef23b946becda4e41bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18c27a7082a5201bfc36","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbef23b946becda4e41bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q01e7da026b5ec77fbc78","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":946,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T00:28:07.446Z","text":"不错。星辰还会查一下机器人。机器人里居然随便就蹦出了布雷迪义务，这可是螺丝哥一开始好几个月苦苦想不岀来的东西呀。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c663ca5ea1d56947f7c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01e7da026b5ec77fbc78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q7206e9c04d457a5ba957","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":947,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:36:51.226Z","text":"回答我們不是pro se，是criminal 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docket了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f8ff5eb8b224c27a312","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q985c6c8e2e0e64ca98a3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":950,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:38:11.651Z","text":"不用争，瑞恩 他自己寄的时候会 打电话 自己确认的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f8ff5eb8b224c27a312","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q985c6c8e2e0e64ca98a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f8ff5eb8b224c27a312","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q6e1e6548d2b67fa4c5d0","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":951,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:38:28.714Z","text":"也许他身份 不一样，寄的 也不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e1e6548d2b67fa4c5d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q7e4dcd1145897d0b2af7","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":952,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:38:35.913Z","text":"他是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e4dcd1145897d0b2af7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q794c49ba417711803752","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":953,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:38:44.877Z","text":"反正按照公告寄clerk是沒錯的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q794c49ba417711803752","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qde03cb01afdaa5037d35","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":954,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T00:42:09.321Z","text":"那個法官能一句話就把pro se郵箱的都不上傳，我可不敢賭她會收到然後上傳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde03cb01afdaa5037d35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q1c3e5040b93dae101cc4","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":955,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T00:54:38.883Z","text":"时也，运也，命也","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c3e5040b93dae101cc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qb792483b98dd26412d7a","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":956,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T01:07:18.468Z","text":"那要寄给检方吗？我可说检方有问题的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb792483b98dd26412d7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0bff44a18fbea3b95170","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":957,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T01:08:26.697Z","text":"还有法院我现在群里看到的地址有Room120，Room200，还有Room230","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bff44a18fbea3b95170","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q015f319273d112f1b5c3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":958,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T01:11:50.156Z","text":"好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q015f319273d112f1b5c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q9aa80e324f6c487f86c6","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":959,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T02:34:44.267Z","text":"纸质的可𣎴可以新增加一些内容或者改变一些内容？黑白打印机应该也可以吧，只是有些文件的打印效果不是那么好。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa68468edf24a61430647","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aa80e324f6c487f86c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q31c217d1a5e5e53ab0b0","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":960,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T02:41:28.728Z","text":"不能增加","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31c217d1a5e5e53ab0b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q66d1a7e49a7baf436471","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":961,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T02:41:39.532Z","text":"打印随便你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66d1a7e49a7baf436471","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q3c1ef80c4dd701f6268f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":962,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T02:45:08.448Z","text":"我总结了上面Himam 和Tutu 等的对话，以下地址对不对？\n\nPro Se Intake,\nDaniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse,\nUnited States District Court\nSouthern District of New York\n500 Pearl Street, New York, NY 10007\n\n📬 邮寄对象 2：检方副本（copy）\n\nAssistant U.S. Attorney\nRyan B. Finkel\nUnited States Attorney’s Office\nSouthern District of New York\nOne Saint Andrew’s Plaza\nNew York, NY 10007","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c1ef80c4dd701f6268f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qe00b61e8a8526cabcf54","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":963,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T02:47:00.782Z","text":"Clerk of Court  \nPro Se Intake Unit – Room 200  \nUnited States District Court  \nSouthern District of New York  \n500 Pearl Street, New York, NY 10007\n\nRyan B. Finkel, Assistant U.S. Attorney  \n\nU.S. Attorney’s Office, Southern District of New York  \n\n1 Saint Andrew’s Plaza, New York, NY 10007","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe00b61e8a8526cabcf54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q14b43a3b63e7d3472b14","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":964,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T02:47:09.859Z","text":"Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse 和\nUnited States District Court\nSouthern District of New York\n是不是同一个东西，概念有重复？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14b43a3b63e7d3472b14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q57c69b28a9a412869779","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":965,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T02:47:17.771Z","text":"我寄了这两个地址","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57c69b28a9a412869779","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q39d5287bdb2a87153a3d","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":966,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T02:47:28.581Z","text":"我还是选了Room200","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39d5287bdb2a87153a3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qc3688319fa889c393ae0","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":967,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T02:48:15.491Z","text":"明天寄出","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3688319fa889c393ae0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qf211a68c3c5619e6f535","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":968,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T02:48:21.172Z","text":"Himam 发的这里面没有房间号。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf211a68c3c5619e6f535","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qc2fa1943ce4798123a42","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":969,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T02:49:50.822Z","text":"我来问一下机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2fa1943ce4798123a42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qad9422299e0073b0cde9","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":970,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T02:50:11.186Z","text":"是的 ✅，完全正确。\n\n你要寄的法院地址是：\n\n⸻\n\n📍 主收件地址（官方认证）\n\nClerk of Court  \nPro Se Intake Unit – Room 200  \nUnited States District Court  \nSouthern District of New York  \n500 Pearl Street  \nNew York, NY 10007\n\n\n⸻\n\n📘 说明：\n    •    这是纽约南区联邦法院（SDNY）的正式地址。\n    •    500 Pearl Street 就是纽约南区法院的主楼。\n    •    “Room 200” 是专门负责 Pro Se（自代表）文件 的办公室。\n    •    这是你应该寄所有 853 动议、CVRA 动议、和任何 Pro Se 相关材料的正确部门。\n\n⸻\n\n📦 如果你去邮局寄信，可以直接这样跟柜员说：\n\n“Please send this to the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, 500 Pearl Street, Room 200, New York, NY 10007 — Certified Mail with Return Receipt.”\n\n⸻\n\n📎（可选）你寄的第二份副本是检方那边的：\n\nRyan B. Finkel, Assistant U.S. Attorney  \nU.S. Attorney’s Office, Southern District of New York  \nOne Saint Andrew’s Plaza  \nNew York, NY 10007\n\n\n⸻\n\n是否希望我帮你生成一张“信封打印模板”（上面排版已经写好寄件人和收件人，只需打印贴在信封上）？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad9422299e0073b0cde9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q52ef31b5e974e31e1e5f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":971,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T02:52:47.042Z","text":"非常好的问题。你的理解很细致。✅\n我们来仔细拆解一下这两个名称：\n\n⸻\n\n🏛️ 1️⃣ Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse\n\n这是建筑物的名称（即法院所在的大楼名字）。\n全称是：\n\nDaniel Patrick Moynihan United States Courthouse\n地址是：500 Pearl Street, New York, NY 10007\n\n它是纽约南区联邦法院（SDNY）主要办公地点之一。\n换句话说，这栋楼里坐落着多个法院部门，包括：\n    •    United States District Court for the Southern District of New York（纽约南区联邦地区法院）\n    •    United States Court of International Trade（国际贸易法院）\n    •    以及部分联邦机构办公室。\n\n⸻\n\n⚖️ 2️⃣ United States District Court – Southern District of New York (SDNY)\n\n这是机构的名称，也就是法院本身（the judicial body）。\n它是美国94个联邦地区法院之一，管辖纽约南部地区的联邦案件。\n这个法院有两个主要办公地点：\n    1.    500 Pearl Street — Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse（你要寄的地方）\n    2.    40 Foley Square — Thurgood Marshall Courthouse（同属SDNY）\n\n⸻\n\n📬 总结与建议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52ef31b5e974e31e1e5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q7ab20eb8fe514366af77","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":972,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:00:04.401Z","text":"就寄500那个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ab20eb8fe514366af77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q24f4280ecd17630eabf4","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":973,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:00:21.332Z","text":"然后南区检察官办公室也寄一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24f4280ecd17630eabf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q4ad9474d753b1cc36bc3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":974,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T03:04:37.506Z","text":"我有7个附件，这样要打印成40多页，快成一本书了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ad9474d753b1cc36bc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa76bc9027f8239d52728","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":975,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T03:05:03.888Z","text":"这个vash从没收程序一开始就说他要寄信给法庭要钱，到现在还没寄。然后每两三天就到这里说他给书记处打电话了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qded16bd98baedb5a524c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa76bc9027f8239d52728","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q59635a1bfe6008c7664e","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":976,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:05:18.908Z","text":"你要记得 每一个信 最后一页 附上你发南区邮箱的证据pdf","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59635a1bfe6008c7664e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0dad94956a8608a8750f","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":977,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T03:07:02.059Z","text":"你只要写了pro se intake，就会寄到正确的房间，不用太担心","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bff44a18fbea3b95170","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dad94956a8608a8750f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bff44a18fbea3b95170","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qe3ecd3edc0f5c31111da","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":978,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T03:07:10.124Z","text":"我看Vash 就是来扰混水的。它跟蛆虫两个分到不同的任务，一个挺螺丝哥打瑞恩，一个挺瑞恩打螺丝哥。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa76bc9027f8239d52728","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3ecd3edc0f5c31111da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa76bc9027f8239d52728","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qdbc3c3f17a224351ed86","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":979,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T03:08:36.953Z","text":"他骂螺丝哥是铢娄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87c8a3834c9c151c7083","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc3c3f17a224351ed86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q230e6ef954c2d52da099","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":980,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T03:08:43.706Z","text":"现在还让大家直接寄信给法官，我靠，这不是要骚扰法官吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3ecd3edc0f5c31111da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q230e6ef954c2d52da099","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3ecd3edc0f5c31111da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q2ed08e84346f0a5e66e3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":981,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:09:08.223Z","text":"除了他 还有谁也说打电话 说让寄给法官？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q230e6ef954c2d52da099","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ed08e84346f0a5e66e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q230e6ef954c2d52da099","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q31524a55ffdbfe58333b","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":982,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:09:59.672Z","text":"我还以为是法官的阴招 让手下人传递假消息 如果真的是这样 那我对法官还真刮目相看了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q230e6ef954c2d52da099","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31524a55ffdbfe58333b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q230e6ef954c2d52da099","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q0871c7a219666c84ae30","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":983,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T03:11:45.443Z","text":"九层妖塔的货99份是真，关键的一份造假。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q936542db417292aab2df","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0871c7a219666c84ae30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q82dff43d3645474a2339","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":984,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T03:13:14.117Z","text":"那个gohome最近好久没出现，我对它也深表怀疑。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82dff43d3645474a2339","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"q055cf806b804236d45ae","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":985,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:13:22.187Z","text":"不过各位 二巡上诉的时候 你还真得写法官名字","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q055cf806b804236d45ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qd1904b633434f2c6b3c3","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":986,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:14:07.217Z","text":"为什么我们群这么难捣乱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1904b633434f2c6b3c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qe7f6ec362510fe543be5","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":987,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:14:34.072Z","text":"因为螺丝哥当初搞的这些 一开始就很难理解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7f6ec362510fe543be5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qd59a582315ba65d0efe9","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":988,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T03:14:57.140Z","text":"从自诉是什么 到如何说 怎么说 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3饿9","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55d53768a1d3a2bb117b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045"},{"id":"qa6eb7699c66571f5b670","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":997,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-10-08T03:35:56.304Z","text":"你们天天喊翻案，多少人搞明白这张东西是干嘛用的了吗？ 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