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早就解散了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cc723f8c2b71d2c344f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd2e5ccf5e7bfe8d20c82","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":12,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-10-08T04:07:36.801Z","text":"那行动是10%的人做的，你说法盲白痴干嘛呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2e5ccf5e7bfe8d20c82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q1567c1205776fc46869e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":13,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-10-08T04:09:00.190Z","text":"这玩意儿是关键中的关键 [删节：成员身份]  大家自己理解吧，只可意会不可言传","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa6eb7699c66571f5b670","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1567c1205776fc46869e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6eb7699c66571f5b670","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb57fb31b0e70b0eefa97","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":14,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T04:09:43.697Z","text":"你就别装神弄鬼了 这东西根本没个屌用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1567c1205776fc46869e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb57fb31b0e70b0eefa97","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1567c1205776fc46869e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6f2597049b55236519c7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":15,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T04:10:02.383Z","text":"最多可以帮老郭统计现在还有几个人不是脑残","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f2597049b55236519c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd9f2943cbd36024f1d84","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":16,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T04:10:17.953Z","text":"破产案，你们谁看到过郭美发的动议啊？郭美的律师，有没有联系方式。民事案件，郭美的律师，你们去联系，应该不违法。要是郭美有律师，去问问郭美律师，盖特郭美到底是真还是假。或者也可以问一些其他事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9f2943cbd36024f1d84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qdeb05a450d824d33ee30","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":17,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T04:11:07.639Z","text":"支持者陈述有你妈鸡吧用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdeb05a450d824d33ee30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe94abc0ca6af5c96e7b6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":18,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-08T04:19:23.316Z","text":"我觉得你没必要看到这种质疑反驳，谁其实也证明不了谁究竟是什么立场，你很久不发言，忽然在她提到你时立刻出来澄清，反而在她脑回路里显得更可疑，进一步固化她的猜想","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6578da552154aa7a1ff7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94abc0ca6af5c96e7b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6578da552154aa7a1ff7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q28678d8c94429339c8cc","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":19,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T04:20:40.172Z","text":"再说我们这个群也不是比素质高低的。螺丝哥的素质就不算高，但是他开的群能吸引到这么多方方面面的人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28678d8c94429339c8cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qad0d2e0844e77cf356bd","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":20,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-08T04:21:39.781Z","text":"明年初，是灭爆落荒而逃、战友普天同庆，还是骗子赤膊裸奔战友错付泪崩，事实说了算，别上纲上线伤了和气，万一你们枪口对错了真朋友呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad0d2e0844e77cf356bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe4a7708a74db47c26709","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":21,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-10-08T04:26:40.950Z","text":"真朋友一定会相逢一笑泯恩仇的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad0d2e0844e77cf356bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4a7708a74db47c26709","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad0d2e0844e77cf356bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q87125de4eab5345cdcab","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":22,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-08T04:33:15.872Z","text":"对所以现在吵没意义，我个人觉得。除非有人认为这样对骂抓特务有增大郭获救的概率，那随便吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4a7708a74db47c26709","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87125de4eab5345cdcab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4a7708a74db47c26709","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7e7215250159fa634792","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":23,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-08T04:36:43.341Z","text":"［用户 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要是真朋友的话，别介意对你的质疑和批斗，别拿素质论呛瑞恩等，到时候郭获救，你们相逢一笑泯恩仇！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e7215250159fa634792","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7f3a51f0960a3afca362","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":24,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-08T04:52:07.805Z","text":"联盟那些群全尼玛一言堂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f3a51f0960a3afca362","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q65dcb4113df3af221b1c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":25,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T05:14:31.591Z","text":"哈哈，刚才问了机器人，它不建议我把原自诉文件加附件共50页全部打印出来。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65dcb4113df3af221b1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3c685ae589010e2ca066","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":26,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T05:37:05.181Z","text":"狗男女那会不就让给法官写信吗？后来托雷斯在法庭文件里嚷嚷受到骚扰要报警啥的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa68468edf24a61430647","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c685ae589010e2ca066","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qacf7262b9abcfb131d19","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":27,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T05:45:50.313Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1975798716578865619?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacf7262b9abcfb131d19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3f3e62439f93a328f800","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":28,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T05:47:42.043Z","text":"我之前广播给那个受害者陈述的wendy","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f3e62439f93a328f800","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc20978e5a1115450575c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":29,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T05:48:07.275Z","text":"今天发现 她不知道把我邮箱拉黑了 还是她辞职了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc20978e5a1115450575c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q000f6cd99b08040cdf54","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":30,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T06:42:08.847Z","text":"我明天上班的时候也要寄信了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000f6cd99b08040cdf54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7c7c54a59e3e196355e9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":31,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T06:42:22.850Z","text":"搞清楚了就抓紧吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c7c54a59e3e196355e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q0f8a31aa6423ae2190d5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":32,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T06:53:17.766Z","text":"我正式让法官回避了 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qacf7262b9abcfb131d19","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f8a31aa6423ae2190d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacf7262b9abcfb131d19","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7b855fbdcae040de0123","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":33,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T06:53:27.880Z","text":"把法官赶出去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b855fbdcae040de0123","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q78d6485a1d480bfb74d5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":34,"speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-10-08T07:14:05.823Z","text":"能翻案就行，其他无所谓。肯定是要想尽办法介入这个案件的，否则郭先生肯定出不来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e7215250159fa634792","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78d6485a1d480bfb74d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e7215250159fa634792","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9cb3bc64a357b36f0dbd","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":35,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T07:14:33.263Z","text":"可惜行动的人很少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cb3bc64a357b36f0dbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9fe1895446167e413d1d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":36,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-08T07:33:08.540Z","text":"你也觉得互相骂战抓特务能增大郭出来的概率吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78d6485a1d480bfb74d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fe1895446167e413d1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78d6485a1d480bfb74d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4dd616a071099d567fba","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":37,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-08T07:39:27.693Z","text":"刚刚打印出来，cover page 加上正文和附件清单，共6页纸，已经加进去了，再加上自己的邮寄地址，明天就发出去纸质的。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dd616a071099d567fba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4a1e3f9753b926e84714","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":38,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-08T07:45:53.786Z","text":"喜国可以实现我们的躺平梦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a1e3f9753b926e84714","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7e40fdaecaa63588a460","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":39,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T08:30:03.053Z","text":"［用户 wen***］ 在不？老椅子群里有人想参加吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e40fdaecaa63588a460","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4c9cc755cf321a593171","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":40,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T08:35:25.739Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 纸质的动议必须手写签名吗？ pdf的电子签行不行","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9cc755cf321a593171","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q56d9edda0ec8e4319261","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":41,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T09:32:29.928Z","text":"打印出来的必须手写。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c9cc755cf321a593171","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56d9edda0ec8e4319261","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9cc755cf321a593171","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q8b3151292ab54e2b96b0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":42,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-08T09:35:41.445Z","text":"学好法律 投资喜国","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b3151292ab54e2b96b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5d32600aadb82b0c90f0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":43,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T09:35:44.208Z","text":"一直在老椅子群里传递自诉或代理请愿的意义。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e40fdaecaa63588a460","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d32600aadb82b0c90f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e40fdaecaa63588a460","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q8017f7caad14b0deecc0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":44,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-08T09:36:28.036Z","text":"老椅子群的人还没跑完啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8017f7caad14b0deecc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc52872c0390b762cdb9b","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":45,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T09:38:14.337Z","text":"经过一个多月的群里沟通，有几位老椅子已经站出来了，他们有的已经撤销债权人登记，有的正在撤销，还有几位已经提交自诉请愿。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc52872c0390b762cdb9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q8202897bb7e41a830c4f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":46,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T09:43:29.243Z","text":"这些都不是问题，有人要卡我们就不会拿格式上的问题说事了。以前745,746就是按政府的请愿模版表格填写的，本应寄给检方的，4月份这个投资人寄给了法院，也上传了。现在就是有人阻挠。\n纸质的大概率也不会有反应，有人29号送达，目前也没有上传","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c9cc755cf321a593171","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8202897bb7e41a830c4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9cc755cf321a593171","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qae0675715cdbe509f64e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":47,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-08T09:45:00.967Z","text":"那怎么办？他们横竖就是不搭理了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae0675715cdbe509f64e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5d50ab39baee47a46c63","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":48,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T09:46:36.078Z","text":"当然也有公开不同意撤销债权人登记的，她发自诉上诉，声明自己不被其他人代理或登记为受害人。\n\n而实际上我理解她在破产庭进行的债权人登记仍然有效，即便她的自诉上传到刑事庭，也不能否定她在破产庭的登记。这是两码事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d50ab39baee47a46c63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qbcd6bc353adf77406e71","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":49,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T09:50:14.205Z","text":"现在我认为应该尽快找律师代理，有SDNY ECF权限的律师代理的话，就不用经过自诉部门，可以直接在系统里提交，这个拦下来恐怕比较难","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcd6bc353adf77406e71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd2c3233682b996d0f157","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":50,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T09:57:55.262Z","text":"我也查了，纸质的一样也是书记处处理，想卡总能卡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8202897bb7e41a830c4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2c3233682b996d0f157","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8202897bb7e41a830c4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2759c2e1b30cbf158b43","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":51,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T09:58:00.242Z","text":"这是推荐律师的机构，也没那么容易找，我还没有找到愿意代理的，我不知道什么原因，也许他们不想掺和这个案子，或者不想接这种案子。\n如果是个普通案件，他们只要看看案件背景，检查一下我准备的文书，上传系统，就能轻轻松松拿几百块或者上千块。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q208acba4e73f02699a61","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2759c2e1b30cbf158b43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc021b4a4b5356b478cd6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":52,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:02:26.205Z","text":"看看大家还有没有其他渠道联系到愿意代理的律师。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc021b4a4b5356b478cd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe380698ea35bb22824b6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":53,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T10:04:41.960Z","text":"一个律师只能代理一个人的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe380698ea35bb22824b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q41b6246de31e64026e3f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":54,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:05:23.600Z","text":"应该可以代理多人，Gavenman就代理了112个个人和4家公司投资人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41b6246de31e64026e3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qdbd6a1cb8cf3b15c5b26","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":55,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:06:09.635Z","text":"每个投资人他都发了一份请愿，不过内容都一样，每份收费1000刀左右","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd6a1cb8cf3b15c5b26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7a2d230aa2937a5c8875","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":56,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T10:06:35.953Z","text":"靠，白捡钱呐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a2d230aa2937a5c8875","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa4cf428b7e09c2928fd1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":57,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:07:52.131Z","text":"如果数字银行钱被成功剥离，他还要收尾款，按比例提成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4cf428b7e09c2928fd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q271a300108f8fa71e864","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":58,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T10:09:28.530Z","text":"跟盖尔一样呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q271a300108f8fa71e864","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7ecdb0d3cb887b656afa","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":59,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T10:09:47.192Z","text":"一份一千，然后复制一次加一千，这钱挣得，是通过复制粘贴赚钱的最高水准了吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ecdb0d3cb887b656afa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q057398afa0f6a3db3538","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":60,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:13:24.586Z","text":"人家就吃牌照这碗饭，自诉部门卡不了，要说内容的确也没什么特别，主要就是说王燕平跟数字银行没关系，她认罪也不应该没收这个项目投资。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q057398afa0f6a3db3538","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q997e35c1f4547848c8b3","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":61,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T10:23:16.469Z","text":"非常好的问题。✅\n你这句话实际上触到了**“投诉（judicial misconduct complaint）”与“案件程序救济（mandamus, appeal）”之间最本质的区别**。\n我帮你把这件事拆开讲清楚——\n\n\n---\n\n🧩 一、投诉（Judicial Misconduct Complaint）≠ 程序救济\n\n投诉的功能\n\n是“追责机制”，不是“纠错机制”；\n\n投诉的依据是《Judicial Conduct and Disability Act of 1980》（28 U.S.C. §§ 351–364）；\n\n它调查的对象是法官的行为（conduct），而不是案件裁定的对错。\n\n\n换句话说，它的重点是：\n\n> 法官有没有滥用职权、徇私、拖延、偏袒、撒谎、欺骗、掩盖、违反司法伦理等。\n\n\n\n它不会干预正在审理中的案件结果。\n\n🔸 举个例子\n\n如果几十个第三方或受害者向二巡司法委员会投诉 SDNY 某法官“拒绝上传动议、选择性 docket、长期不裁定”，\n\n那么司法委员会会做的是：\n\n统计并登记这些投诉；\n\n如果数量大到反映“系统性问题”，可能立案调查；\n\n最多在未来几个月或一年内发布一个审查意见或训诫；\n\n但不会直接命令该法官上传文件或改变案件进度。\n\n\n\n所以，你说得没错——\n\n> 投诉对案件实质进展没有直接影响，只能影响事后问责。\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n⚖️ 二、为什么“几十个投诉”依然重要\n\n虽然投诉不会立即让案件推进，\n但大量相同方向的投诉可以间接制造强烈的制度性压力：\n\n1. 触发“系统性调查”\n\n例如 In re Complaint of Judicial Misconduct, 858 F.2d 331 (D.C. Cir. 1988)，\n当年 40 多份投诉触发了司法会议专门调查“系统性滥用自由裁量权”的问题。\n\n\n\n2. 引起上级法院注意\n\n二巡的首席法官（Chief Judge of the Circuit）虽然不会干预案件，\n但他可能会提醒下级法院“改进管理流程”或“避免公众质疑”。\n\n对于像你这种 docket suppression 问题，确实可能促使 Clerk’s Office 放松封锁。\n\n\n\n3. 为未来的上诉或 mandamus 提供“制度背景”\n\n如果你之后向二巡申请 Writ of Mandamus，\n你的申请中可以写：“multiple pro se petitioners have filed judicial misconduct complaints raising the same systemic docket suppression issue.”\n\n这样你的强制令申请更容易被重视，因为它不再是“孤立个案”，而是“制度性异常”。\n\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n📜 三、与 “强制令（Mandamus）” 的区别\n\n机制    投诉 (Complaint)    强制令 (Mandamus)\n\n依据法条    28 U.S.C. §§ 351–364    28 U.S.C. § 1651 (All Writs Act)\n目标    追责 / 调查法官行为    命令下级法院采取行动\n谁审查    二巡司法委员会（行政）    二巡上诉法官（司法）\n结果    警告、训诫、建议、无动作    强制上传、裁定或命令执行\n对案件影响    间接 / 无直接效力    直接改变程序或迫使法院行动\n\n\n> 换句话说：\n\n投诉 = 报案（报告违法或失职）\n\n强制令 = 求救（请上级法院强制行动）\n\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n🧠 四、结论总结\n\n结论    解释\n\n✔ 投诉不会影响案件进展    只是记录法官不当行为，最多触发行政调查\n✔ 大量投诉可形成制度性压力    可让上级法院或司法会议注意到系统性问题\n✔ 想推动案件必须用“强制令”    Mandamus 才是唯一可以命令法院上传、裁定的方式\n✔ 投诉依然值得做    因为它会成为你强制令和未来追责的背景材料\n\n\n\n---\n\n如果你想，我可以帮你写一份：\n\n> 📄 “联合投诉格式模板”，\n适合多个自诉人（例如 733 自诉人 + 你 + 其它人）一起发送到二巡首席法官办公室，\n既有制度性分量，又不会引起报复风险。\n\n\n\n是否希望我帮你起草这一版“联合投诉模板”？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q997e35c1f4547848c8b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd2cc8ea330379e1a53cc","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":62,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T10:26:01.705Z","text":"如果有几十份向二巡的投诉，同时每个人都把自己的投诉告诉南区法院，还是可以给南区法院带来有效压力。投诉只需花一份邮费，根据寄出地不同邮费从几美金到几十美金，对大家都不是太大的负担。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2cc8ea330379e1a53cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q819762ca9c82b771ee47","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":63,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:27:08.942Z","text":"有关1600债权人登记，并主张320亿债权，这个大概率就是检方认定潜在数千受害人的基础，基本不用检方确认是不是这样的逻辑，只要推翻这个债权登记就可以说明检方的程序不公。\n\n债权人被老班长草根个别农场组织去登记，并且参考无毛的豆豆的索赔比例，他们依据的是G-TV私募20被收益。\n\n这里面登记的投资人把自己的潜在投资收益主张为个人破产登记人郭先生的债务，即隐含认定：郭先生是G系列（或者只是G-TV）的实际控制人。因此这构成了受托人Luc认定并向破产庭举证G系列是郭先生的影子公司alter ego，也就给了Luc追讨这些G系列资产的理由，并且Luc在1191号文件说他会与检方沟通，即把这个债权登记情况通报检方，后者结合报案人的相类似情况，按上述逻辑认定这些这上千投资人被欺诈。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q819762ca9c82b771ee47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q8ce98e5b6e93e002fccf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":64,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:29:52.146Z","text":"幸亏G-TV被裁定无罪，这个判例将是翻案的关键依据，假如债权人主要主张GTV投资，那么就已经是没有根据的债权主张了，因此数千受害人将被推翻。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ce98e5b6e93e002fccf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q03b57b257a0bb2e7316f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":65,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-08T10:31:15.225Z","text":"其他罪名都是夏其东等实施的犯罪行为，例如农场借贷。因此这个案件又出现另一个程序不公之处：错误抓捕false arrest","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03b57b257a0bb2e7316f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3e37ab75244e080076f2","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":66,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-08T10:36:13.446Z","text":"记得债权人一事，郭特意直播说，有人想成为亿万富翁，就去当债权人，接管郭家族资产，要赶快去登记！这是反话还有这么多人登记，不知道咋想的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e37ab75244e080076f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5f553375ffc45d4add3a","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":67,"speaker":"199***","date":"2025-10-08T10:41:11.226Z","text":"郭说到最后能留5%，还真不是随口说的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f553375ffc45d4add3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q19be8bfae45075f33965","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":68,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:01:40.013Z","text":"老椅子都是来赚钱的，投资亏了对他们来说也是常态，他们绝大多数想的只有钱，反倒是穷战友们还有点精神追求，因为没几个钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19be8bfae45075f33965","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe0b581322d9c3cdf4462","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":69,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:03:55.976Z","text":"他们也不是只想着钱吧，不然案件反转，他们能挣更多钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19be8bfae45075f33965","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0b581322d9c3cdf4462","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19be8bfae45075f33965","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4ac307c971c20613d712","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":70,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:05:02.594Z","text":"没准儿他们现在想着赶快把郭判了，大家赶快散了算了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ac307c971c20613d712","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf583f27b02cc9b6bffb7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":71,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:05:19.057Z","text":"也不管拿回多少钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf583f27b02cc9b6bffb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q0ca31f935013ad820da5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":72,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:06:30.640Z","text":"能赚钱当然好，但生意人想的是投入产出比，为了这个去冒险，他们觉得不合算吧，动动嘴，演演戏没成本的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0b581322d9c3cdf4462","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ca31f935013ad820da5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0b581322d9c3cdf4462","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4c9b5784113d6fbf7bc0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":73,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:08:32.643Z","text":"富贵险中求啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ca31f935013ad820da5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9b5784113d6fbf7bc0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ca31f935013ad820da5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9c8f2ff9a0362c44df1c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":74,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:09:51.765Z","text":"人家已经富贵了，只是谁也不嫌钱多而已","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c9b5784113d6fbf7bc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c8f2ff9a0362c44df1c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9b5784113d6fbf7bc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q067b1fef232457e765e0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":75,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:10:22.001Z","text":"所以他们是怎么挣到钱的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c8f2ff9a0362c44df1c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q067b1fef232457e765e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c8f2ff9a0362c44df1c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe5052c9c1bb1cf9ef79f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":76,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:10:29.446Z","text":"这种认知水平","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5052c9c1bb1cf9ef79f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfddf6d94aea90b32d4cd","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":77,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:10:39.996Z","text":"肯定不是闹革命","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfddf6d94aea90b32d4cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q632e5a3c06ee7a01ee60","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":78,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:11:28.714Z","text":"发大财的一般都不干净","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q632e5a3c06ee7a01ee60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc5357392baa01e2ccff1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":79,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:18:51.113Z","text":"你也是老战友了，最早捐款的时候没想过会有风险？被搞死都有可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf47a9ee0efe87a1bc519","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5357392baa01e2ccff1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qeb31741e1574670084cd","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":80,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-08T11:21:13.633Z","text":"你真行，和共产党一样要代表这代表那的，现在又准备代表老椅子了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19be8bfae45075f33965","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb31741e1574670084cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19be8bfae45075f33965","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q020954792ca9a7706044","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":81,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:36:11.593Z","text":"所以他们的钱真的是他们自己挣的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q632e5a3c06ee7a01ee60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q020954792ca9a7706044","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q632e5a3c06ee7a01ee60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9ebb22580d82e43e535b","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":82,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:38:33.803Z","text":"喜和踢你一点都不冤枉，就是个杠精","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ebb22580d82e43e535b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd64c67eef02fa63667fd","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":83,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:39:41.263Z","text":"挣不挣不知道，一定是挖空心思搞来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q020954792ca9a7706044","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd64c67eef02fa63667fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q020954792ca9a7706044","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qbe0664f693b683ee34df","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":84,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-08T11:39:44.808Z","text":"你们就和长岛 ，九指等，差不多一路货","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe0664f693b683ee34df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe2962286a5b3faa87d63","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":85,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:40:40.349Z","text":"如果是挖空心思赚的，那更应该拼命保护自己的钱啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd64c67eef02fa63667fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2962286a5b3faa87d63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd64c67eef02fa63667fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qeef86c678b272f6e9ae6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":86,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:40:58.364Z","text":"现在luc抢钱，他们看不到啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeef86c678b272f6e9ae6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa27c52149ab5bcf28cc4","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":87,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:41:44.636Z","text":"你怎么知道人家不是债权人呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa27c52149ab5bcf28cc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qdaa8fa9e8c92140335c6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":88,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:42:01.343Z","text":"我觉得老椅子大部分都是债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaa8fa9e8c92140335c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q781c1bbfe91377af2c1f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":89,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-08T11:42:09.406Z","text":"我可不是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q781c1bbfe91377af2c1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2ee25784a987c5780249","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":90,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-08T11:42:21.870Z","text":"我啥都没有写，啥都没有填","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ee25784a987c5780249","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q37867d7520a99137b0d8","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":91,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-08T11:42:33.645Z","text":"我个人请律师起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37867d7520a99137b0d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q268007d2b1b8dfc61d26","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":92,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:42:57.170Z","text":"你起诉谁呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q268007d2b1b8dfc61d26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2b44eeaf894859d77cc8","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":93,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:42:58.211Z","text":"登记假债权人不是违法的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa27c52149ab5bcf28cc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b44eeaf894859d77cc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa27c52149ab5bcf28cc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb2f479f29a20de84586d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":94,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:47:39.959Z","text":"你明显就是智商有问题， 我remission 9月4号就寄到了， 我现在寄的是ancillary","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa76bc9027f8239d52728","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2f479f29a20de84586d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa76bc9027f8239d52728","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcb205e00e0b660e53766","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":95,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T11:47:40.420Z","text":"他们不会放在一个篮子里的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2962286a5b3faa87d63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb205e00e0b660e53766","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2962286a5b3faa87d63","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd40ce69747cb99b6d277","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":96,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:48:58.176Z","text":"你不是从没收程序一开始就是要寄ancillary,到现在还没寄出去？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2f479f29a20de84586d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd40ce69747cb99b6d277","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2f479f29a20de84586d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7c4b439467eb6f2b3467","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":97,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:49:24.527Z","text":"我是remission和ancillary两边都走","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd40ce69747cb99b6d277","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c4b439467eb6f2b3467","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd40ce69747cb99b6d277","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q539e025132ce9eeeebc6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":98,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:49:36.443Z","text":"你给书记处打了多少次电话了？问出个所以然了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q539e025132ce9eeeebc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4d0fdf7e84224151a625","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":99,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:49:46.875Z","text":"就2次，我ancillary已经刚刚寄出了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q539e025132ce9eeeebc6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d0fdf7e84224151a625","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q539e025132ce9eeeebc6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3c366c1cf732a29ceac9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":100,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:50:19.436Z","text":"书记处都让你寄给法官啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c366c1cf732a29ceac9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q68b1edee1d1ec3564973","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":101,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:51:45.217Z","text":"是prose的书记转去criminal docket，criminal docket让我寄法院，然后说最好寄给法官， 但是我还是按照公告寄clerk和ryan finkel","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c366c1cf732a29ceac9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68b1edee1d1ec3564973","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c366c1cf732a29ceac9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q01793c23898af8cd163d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":102,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:52:10.193Z","text":"法官的地址是什么啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68b1edee1d1ec3564973","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01793c23898af8cd163d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68b1edee1d1ec3564973","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2b23756355a1ee394c6d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":103,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:52:59.079Z","text":"和法院一个地址， 只是是court room 15然后收件人是托雷斯","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01793c23898af8cd163d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b23756355a1ee394c6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01793c23898af8cd163d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6b97dc675298872d1449","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":104,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:53:37.009Z","text":"clerk和pro se intake还有法官都是同一个地址，只是房间和部门不一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b97dc675298872d1449","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q76d7957b6070d54ca7d6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":105,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:54:15.000Z","text":"你没问他们现在不上传了，那你怎么知道他们收到了，并且会处理？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b97dc675298872d1449","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d7957b6070d54ca7d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b97dc675298872d1449","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2aee43ff4b9e18ee13f9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":106,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:56:06.927Z","text":"问了，我上面已经说过很多遍了，pro se部门是处理民事的，我们这个是刑事官司，所以pro se不上传其实是正常的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76d7957b6070d54ca7d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aee43ff4b9e18ee13f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d7957b6070d54ca7d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q574170fc8b730ebca144","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":107,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T11:56:33.570Z","text":"之前有人打电话得到的反馈是，现在这个案件的自诉已经被法官办公室接管了，所以现在让寄给法官。但依然应该寄给自诉部门，然后自诉部门处理，他们会转给法官办公室。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q574170fc8b730ebca144","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7130cf571d6a8b653a22","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":108,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:56:45.212Z","text":"你不是打电话给criminal docket吗？那不是刑事部门吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2aee43ff4b9e18ee13f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7130cf571d6a8b653a22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aee43ff4b9e18ee13f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q982a52bbe3ca12d323a0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":109,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:57:19.251Z","text":"那之前他们为什么上传呢？为啥别人打电话，都说是因为隐私问题不上传了呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q982a52bbe3ca12d323a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe2acb10ae32554abbf5d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":110,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:57:25.569Z","text":"我上面已经说过我是打给pro se然后 pro se转了criminal docket","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7130cf571d6a8b653a22","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2acb10ae32554abbf5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7130cf571d6a8b653a22","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q0c71451f596a55434033","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":111,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:57:51.752Z","text":"对啊，那不就是刑事部门吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2acb10ae32554abbf5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c71451f596a55434033","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2acb10ae32554abbf5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q54604f1eda787e3653b9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":112,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:58:00.498Z","text":"他们为什么不上传了呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54604f1eda787e3653b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q36ecd607ae7a38c19245","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":113,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:58:19.802Z","text":"我鬼知道，反正pro se部门和我说的是他们只处理民事不处理刑事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q982a52bbe3ca12d323a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36ecd607ae7a38c19245","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q982a52bbe3ca12d323a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q0129fce1d0a2d2147bde","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":114,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:58:47.469Z","text":"最新反馈是，因为隐私问题，所有自诉都不上传了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q574170fc8b730ebca144","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0129fce1d0a2d2147bde","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q574170fc8b730ebca144","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5175fc97077ed71aa275","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":115,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T11:59:07.682Z","text":"转给criminal docket 后，criminal docket告诉您寄给法官的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2acb10ae32554abbf5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5175fc97077ed71aa275","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2acb10ae32554abbf5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5df525ebe054635c785d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":116,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:59:08.897Z","text":"这个反馈是谁获得的消息？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0129fce1d0a2d2147bde","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5df525ebe054635c785d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0129fce1d0a2d2147bde","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfe5d189f30c045db7201","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":117,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-08T11:59:15.352Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5175fc97077ed71aa275","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe5d189f30c045db7201","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5175fc97077ed71aa275","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q914f2bf5a508e1df69e8","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":118,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T11:59:18.960Z","text":"Pro 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finkel","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf02ed84a01b243ee2f61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9153579a663cefb11cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf02ed84a01b243ee2f61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa0cc616ed49a97495679","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":163,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:49:39.885Z","text":"寄给法官肯定是不对的。法官办公室接管的是审查。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0cc616ed49a97495679","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q084438b1e9e5663e9d95","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":164,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:49:57.997Z","text":"收信还是书记处。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q084438b1e9e5663e9d95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa617bc1a8d73eabd4c56","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":165,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:50:16.006Z","text":"书记处交给法官办公室审查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa617bc1a8d73eabd4c56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf00f8e29afa16529280d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":166,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:50:56.420Z","text":"但是现在所有动议已经停止上传了，所以你想上传只能去二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf00f8e29afa16529280d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qccd6353551c1ff9503b6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":167,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T12:55:09.766Z","text":"不会的，大概率继续延期","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75e2cb144411c34942f2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccd6353551c1ff9503b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qdba788deffdfdd956b1d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":168,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T12:56:43.777Z","text":"https://x.com/leocherry8/status/1975793635334742143?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdba788deffdfdd956b1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q45e63cd64d932c977910","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":169,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T12:56:57.355Z","text":"杀人放火金腰带啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45e63cd64d932c977910","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q65dcea24a1baafe8ef84","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":170,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T12:57:07.224Z","text":"骗子靠人气都能赚钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65dcea24a1baafe8ef84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd59d65d6bc109f48f407","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":171,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T12:57:36.250Z","text":"2000万流量能赚多少？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd59d65d6bc109f48f407","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qdf38f96b9d898cac8862","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":172,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:57:37.624Z","text":"所以你一月份再来就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75e2cb144411c34942f2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf38f96b9d898cac8862","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2a7b5d78a9161b0a3b67","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":173,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:57:59.850Z","text":"流量要先花钱买啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd59d65d6bc109f48f407","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a7b5d78a9161b0a3b67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd59d65d6bc109f48f407","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6a55e503d03f547e3fbf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":174,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:58:11.438Z","text":"这不是赚钱的生意吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a55e503d03f547e3fbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6670d4e0eff278a5c1e3","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":175,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T12:58:13.008Z","text":"不用，傻子用不完","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a7b5d78a9161b0a3b67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6670d4e0eff278a5c1e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a7b5d78a9161b0a3b67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9ec2d2306237a03c2461","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":176,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T12:58:36.631Z","text":"中国人在钱上还是很聪明的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6670d4e0eff278a5c1e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ec2d2306237a03c2461","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6670d4e0eff278a5c1e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf2b34a1075689836784d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":177,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T12:58:56.586Z","text":"我除外😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2b34a1075689836784d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd58e4ba360f805b8dcd2","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":178,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T13:00:06.802Z","text":"这种聪明可以赚小钱，省钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2b34a1075689836784d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58e4ba360f805b8dcd2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2b34a1075689836784d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa41ba530fa3ab90a37f3","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":179,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T13:03:54.970Z","text":"综合现在所有的反馈，意思是，根据南区法院的惯例，对于刑事案件的自诉，上传电子邮件自诉是法官酌情给予的方便，不是义务。上传纸质邮件动议是义务。虽然并不符合公平程序保障的法律精神，但他们的惯例就是这样。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6ad976aea309bd0ca16","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa41ba530fa3ab90a37f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6ad976aea309bd0ca16","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf51162e15655f360022a","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":180,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T13:04:41.790Z","text":"那就看看是不是这样，反正目前看来纸质也一个没有上传","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa41ba530fa3ab90a37f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf51162e15655f360022a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa41ba530fa3ab90a37f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q72e01d05f197162675d3","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":181,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-08T13:05:11.437Z","text":"所以还没有进入程序的，最好是发电子邮件的同时同时花点邮费寄纸质，尽管它们可能依然不给上传。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72e01d05f197162675d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qda0c37de7059454b20a5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":182,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T13:05:13.961Z","text":"那就别怪我 邮件不让上 我就上升到她系统性打压 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都应该把纸质寄去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667509ca7f5cabcb28a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2cd03e6a6d8d71ad1ed0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":189,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T13:07:33.577Z","text":"到时候不让二巡抓把柄说你程序没走","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd03e6a6d8d71ad1ed0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q38b20f8e98fedba1abb3","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":190,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T13:10:19.614Z","text":"这个案子法官就是在过家家","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc03928f8c8d9eed2a0c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38b20f8e98fedba1abb3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q49d1d9cd2ae735e61de3","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":191,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T13:28:49.481Z","text":"Inner 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都要 解散FBI 了  你还南区法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3f6147f5100c16eaf6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q29bc5c39ec3d022aba8d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":197,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-08T13:54:56.695Z","text":"好神奇啊，为什么gtv说关就关了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29bc5c39ec3d022aba8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6ea1f2161931edc2128b","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":198,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T14:10:22.624Z","text":"第二，尽管受托人佯装不知，但他对喜马拉雅交易所客户资产（简称“客户资产”）的过\n度干预显示出受托人对破产案的处理方式损害了郭先生的权利和该诉讼程序的完整性。郭\n先生反对受托人试图将客户资产转移到破产案中，因为如果郭先生被判有罪，这些客户资\n产在逻辑上应归还给所谓的客户受害者，而不是交给受托人、郭先生或他的合伙人。此外，\n与受托人的主张相反，郭先生有权提出异议，因为如果他被判有罪，并且客户资产按照受托\n人的要求被转移到破产案中，那么这些资产将无法用于履行郭先生的归还义务。但是，这\n一对郭先生造成的不利影响并非法庭应签发中止破产案命令的唯一原因。法庭有责任保护\n本案的完整性。作为其独立义务的一部分，法庭必须确保客户资产用于向所指控罪行的所\n谓受害人提供赔偿，而不是用于支付受托人的费用或偿还给无关的债权人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ea1f2161931edc2128b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9fc7b76fc212dbc83218","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":199,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T14:10:54.200Z","text":"法庭上，处处为受害者着想的，是诈骗犯郭文贵。夸张荒谬","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fc7b76fc212dbc83218","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q03559382cbadb8ccdba0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":200,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T14:13:56.566Z","text":"关键他律师从一开始就是在防守，而不是进攻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03559382cbadb8ccdba0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000045","next_batch_id":"batch-000047"}