{"id":"batch-000046","number":46,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-10-08T04:01:02.394Z","date_end":"2025-10-13T15:47:50.672Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 046 (Oct 8, 2025 – Oct 13, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on criminal trial proceedings, victim definitions, and pro se legal avenues. Participants debated the feasibility of third-party motions under § 853(n) and Rule 21 or Rule 23, filing deadlines, and equitable tolling grounds. Disagreements arose over court submission channels, Pro Se intake duties, docket suppression, and conflicts between bankruptcy proceedings, SEC civil actions, and criminal forfeiture. 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律师都只能防守","edited":false,"reply_to":"q03559382cbadb8ccdba0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dd9d7a38da2b6862725","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03559382cbadb8ccdba0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qad081d0aba53db590bf9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":204,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T14:15:02.674Z","text":"之前sabrina啥也没做","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad081d0aba53db590bf9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q588fb8cd93e57781b6b2","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":205,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T14:15:10.549Z","text":"这是最大的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad081d0aba53db590bf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q588fb8cd93e57781b6b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad081d0aba53db590bf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe205f101bc7ccf4638cb","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":206,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T14:15:12.727Z","text":"现在新律师也只能防守","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe205f101bc7ccf4638cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q1d3b5b96d877b98c2045","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":207,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T14:15:20.181Z","text":"他们还能说什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d3b5b96d877b98c2045","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4fc72cfa942761611883","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":208,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T14:15:36.834Z","text":"这个案子只能靠第三方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc72cfa942761611883","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q33c3cdd2793d61997de7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":209,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T14:15:46.336Z","text":"换句话说 只能靠我 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you for contacting us again regarding your search for counsel in your ancillary petition as a third-party investor. Because we do not represent every private attorney in the city or the state, we do not have other private attorneys to advise or represent\n you in the particular case or situation that you have described.\n\n \n\nYou may find lawyers who can meet your needs by continuing your search for legal representation from other resources, such as www.martindale.com\n or \nLawyers.com","edited":false,"reply_to":"q208acba4e73f02699a61","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc01901a965bc59f58b7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qdb1d8b36ec97d7f89d1e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":238,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-08T15:11:45.218Z","text":"什么时候螺丝哥致富了 那就真的变天了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb1d8b36ec97d7f89d1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q86eb5e779b48c143f778","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":239,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T15:15:12.685Z","text":"这个案子如果你不在纽约找律师很难，即使你在纽约也很难，大部分律师有利益冲突。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc01901a965bc59f58b7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86eb5e779b48c143f778","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc01901a965bc59f58b7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb24f51240a8113d1cb74","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":240,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T15:15:41.435Z","text":"但也不是不可能，所以有钱的能找的，还是可以咨询一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb24f51240a8113d1cb74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qddbc8efed846fa7c961e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":241,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T15:16:05.238Z","text":"可以找一个比较小的律师事务所","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddbc8efed846fa7c961e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc931a41030955945bbb7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":242,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-10-08T16:03:51.907Z","text":"最近移民方面的文件严格了很多，要求必须是in 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土匪都节节败退了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43fdb820bf938513c49e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q19d433372d27757224a5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":326,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T09:24:25.953Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1976217130367652098?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19d433372d27757224a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":327,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T10:19:52.289Z","text":"农场借贷，还需要提供汇款单吗？还是有借贷合同就行?都是人民币对敲的 [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcf9d7c1a52aba30aa0d0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":328,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T10:20:44.504Z","text":"借贷合同即可","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf9d7c1a52aba30aa0d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":329,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-09T10:21:29.749Z","text":"你有啥只要可以证明的，联盟和你对账的聊天记录也可以啊，我知道一个战友他只有农场对账聊天记录的也退到钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6e59f09d4019032e76b8","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":330,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T10:21:54.758Z","text":"那就太多了，弄不过来😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e59f09d4019032e76b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc38741f6abfccea6b205","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":331,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-09T10:52:46.213Z","text":"借贷也能退钱了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc38741f6abfccea6b205","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q8f26ec221d6af679605e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":332,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T10:53:08.673Z","text":"非常好的问题——这个点确实很关键，因为 § 853(n) 的介入（third-party petition）有严格的 30 天期限要求；但同时，如果法院自身的做法（例如没有明确告知电子邮件动议的接收规则，或者延误 docket）导致当事人无法在期限内有效提交，那是有法律和判例基础可以请求延长期限或重新起算期限的。\n接下来打算邮寄纸质动议的，顺便再发送和邮寄一个Motion to Extend § 853(n) Filing Deadline Based on Equitable Tolling，可能可以给还没有进入程序的再争取30天时间。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q8de3af962194dcc42b7d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":333,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-09T10:53:10.254Z","text":"农场借贷也在没收范围","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8de3af962194dcc42b7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2daa53cdd8d149862402","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":334,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-09T10:54:01.980Z","text":"我有这个 能退我钱吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2daa53cdd8d149862402","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q307584e72b54bad1c367","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":335,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-09T10:54:45.444Z","text":"这个也在范围里，你想回本就要写动议啊，嘴上喊一点用没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q307584e72b54bad1c367","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q36bac8108f87d61a8704","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":336,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T11:23:37.268Z","text":"确实如此。法庭掐死，包括最早上传的延误，把第三方自诉打开，并且再延长一个月是非常合理的诉求。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36bac8108f87d61a8704","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":337,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T11:24:59.659Z","text":"不是60天吗？这30天指的是第一份动议吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3173febbfafea0aa3bea","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":338,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T11:28:01.472Z","text":"本来已经明着耍流氓了，你还跟他们讲道理？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3173febbfafea0aa3bea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":339,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T11:29:48.751Z","text":"政府公告30天，公告结束之后30天内也是介入时间。由于南区法院介入刑事案的电子邮件自诉规则没有公开清楚，导致利益相关者判断错误，没有及时有效提交，所以要延长介入时间，并且是从南区法院书面明确了有效提交方式后算起。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":340,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T11:30:35.114Z","text":"这个有什么法理根据吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q29a06bbc2c03830a685b","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":341,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T11:31:24.953Z","text":"不是规则问题，是法院带头违法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29a06bbc2c03830a685b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":342,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T11:33:20.263Z","text":"确实不够公开透明，显得比较鸡贼。但它们的惯例就是这样。实际上美国很多联邦法院都是明确刑事案不接受电子邮件自诉。南区法院这方面还相对而言放得宽一些。根据机器人的反馈，本案法官在接受邮件自诉上在南区法院还属于计较开明的一类。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":343,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T11:34:18.232Z","text":"二、判例支持 — 可申请“equitable tolling”（公平延长）\n\n以下判例明确支持这一原则：\n\n1. United States v. Estevez, 845 F. Supp. 2d 496 (E.D.N.Y. 2012)\n\n法院认定，§ 853(n) 期限可以在“government’s failure to provide adequate notice”（政府未适当通知）或“extraordinary circumstances beyond petitioner’s control”下被延长。\n\n⚖️ 意思是：当政府或法院的程序错误导致你无法在期限内提交 petition，可请求延长。\n\n\n\n2. United States v. Burke, 2018 WL 3729517 (W.D.N.Y. Aug 6 2018)\n\n第三方主张自己没有及时获得合法通知（notice），法院接受“equitable tolling”，允许逾期介入。\n\n\n\n3. Dusenbery v. United States, 534 U.S. 161 (2002)\n\n虽然是资产没收案件，最高法院强调 due process requires notice “reasonably calculated to reach interested parties”。\n如果法院没有采取“合理方式通知”当事人，期限就不算启动。\n\n\n\n4. United States v. Rodriguez-Aguirre, 264 F.3d 1195 (10th Cir. 2001)\n\n如果政府或法院在通知或程序上存在瑕疵，法院可以延长 § 853(n) 期限。\n\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n三、适用你案情的逻辑链条\n\n你完全可以提出以下论证：\n\n1. 法院的行为造成了程序障碍：\nSDNY 没有公开、清晰地说明刑事案件中电子邮件提交的可接受性，也没有书面告知电子邮件动议是否会 docket；导致合理当事人（你）误以为电子提交有效。\n\n\n2. 法院的行为导致你未能及时提交纸质版本：\n因缺乏公开规则与反馈，你无法在 30 天内判断需要邮寄纸质版。\n\n\n3. 法院的行为违反了合理通知原则（Due Process）：\n依据 Dusenbery，法院有义务以“reasonably calculated”方式让当事人知道如何提交；未做到这点，等于没有触发 § 853(n)(2) 的时限。\n\n\n4. 因此，30 天的期限应当延长或重新计算：\n你可以请求法院基于 equitable tolling 原则，将介入截止日延长至少 30 天，从法院明确上传规则或 docket 你动议之日起算。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":344,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T11:35:11.766Z","text":"其他案件，自诉不自诉，无所谓或者不是很重要。老郭案件，极为特殊。\n受害者面临这么好治迫害，人没在美国没有钱找律师。甚至不相信检方。那这些受害者，就被抹除了啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":345,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-10-09T12:05:06.904Z","text":"我没有让卢克代表，也没有让盖儿代表，那法院是不是应该通知我？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":346,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T12:20:44.033Z","text":"这个coverpage是涂黑保密信息后打印吗？ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfc6d6d056027656af298","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":347,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T12:21:36.669Z","text":"这个不属于法院的义务或者职责。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc6d6d056027656af298","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd9ee7176e59bfb3aacd9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":348,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T12:21:37.941Z","text":"把他那段引用的内容截图附上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9ee7176e59bfb3aacd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4f5ae8ad80fccb98a096","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":349,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:22:29.224Z","text":"DOJ在网站上已经通知你了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc6d6d056027656af298","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5ae8ad80fccb98a096","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc6d6d056027656af298","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q967cfd4c64357d8e79d1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":350,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:22:57.949Z","text":"但是现在因为提交规则混乱，你可以要求延期","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q967cfd4c64357d8e79d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcba6ef16f1a8b3648ac0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":351,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:24:09.423Z","text":"现在看来纸质动议是最好的，即使不上传，以后也有证据可以上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba6ef16f1a8b3648ac0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":352,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T12:26:04.330Z","text":"谁说说这个coverpage是干嘛用的？上面内容要不要涂黑？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2e1dd0e085619ae008fa","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":353,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:26:09.942Z","text":"最开始打电话到书记处，他们说可以电子邮件，然后突然停止上传电子邮件，也不给书面解释，导致大家还是发电子邮件。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e1dd0e085619ae008fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q12a0122cca614ee3397a","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":354,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:26:42.153Z","text":"然后打电话给他们，说因为隐私都不上传了，但是并不是所有人都知道，也没有书面禁制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a0122cca614ee3397a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q53d78a352d4ae36facfe","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":355,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:27:02.318Z","text":"所以就很混乱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53d78a352d4ae36facfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qea50589cc7021d527ae0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":356,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:27:43.801Z","text":"现在只能发纸质，保留证据了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea50589cc7021d527ae0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9cb611c64ad413632094","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":357,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:37:17.676Z","text":"这么复杂  最好全都有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cb611c64ad413632094","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9debc74ab20249dd4b84","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":358,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:38:15.568Z","text":"机器人 答案不符合 实情，公告明明说的 60天，而且 根据 AZ法院的经验，本州30天，外周 也是 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se的情况下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5da1da9e053674c47a01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qce7db17de871ec13b58c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":362,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:42:04.199Z","text":"不用，昨天瑞恩说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7db17de871ec13b58c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":363,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T12:42:49.815Z","text":"如果检方在它的网站上公告的是60天，那根据法条应该是公告结束子日延长30天也是可介入时间。不过可能它们自己也稀里糊涂的，它们想表达的应该是一共60天。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9debc74ab20249dd4b84","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9debc74ab20249dd4b84","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q80a55dad9ffc565a8008","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":364,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:42:58.274Z","text":"我查了一下，如果你发的动议14天内不上传，或者几个月不理你，就等于是法庭默认驳回你了，你们自己查一下是不是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80a55dad9ffc565a8008","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q61389fc5be82f588f073","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":365,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:43:33.111Z","text":"这是美国所有官方 文件来往  必备，当别人提到 这一页，那就100% 是要寄信的 最后一步了，有脑子有常识的 就不会质疑你 干了啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61389fc5be82f588f073","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb1cec1231cbe087c3fe5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":366,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:47:00.314Z","text":"按说如果法院负责的话，根本不需要你自己涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1cec1231cbe087c3fe5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":367,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:47:18.305Z","text":"根据我 AZ 法院  干  久指妖的经验，是的 明明 我们8月到期（外州60天） 但是开会的时候 法官亲自 说 时间 延长到 10月 17 号了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q77e7dbab30f39ccceec6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":368,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:47:26.462Z","text":"你可以发两份，一份涂黑一份不涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77e7dbab30f39ccceec6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q911e0d25a03370d6ff45","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":369,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:48:36.378Z","text":"10月22日就是截止日期，这个没什么争议。但是10月22日之后，想延期，就需要你自己发动议延期。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q911e0d25a03370d6ff45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q52474c3956ba58305b32","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":370,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:57:23.984Z","text":"非常好，你上去 反对 luc 代表的人 和 盖尔代表的人  就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52474c3956ba58305b32","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":371,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:59:21.816Z","text":"在美国也找不到律师，有钱都找不到， 干久指妖 我找了一圈 律师，都不代理  都以 不在本州 和 不代理商业 拒绝了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":372,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:00:40.198Z","text":"全是他妈 代理   车祸案子的  医疗 案子的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7046ed35cf6e4ac646f9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":373,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:00:57.491Z","text":"[屏蔽词] 我都怀疑 是不是 这 种 案子 政府有补贴","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7046ed35cf6e4ac646f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc9650d42378d97eeb004","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":374,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:01:01.535Z","text":"你写反对结束没收程序的动议，可以写进去这些，也提一句郭文贵换律师听证会，法官也找不到律师。在美国的人尚且如此艰难，在国外的人，就更没有说话的机会了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9650d42378d97eeb004","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q953077450746138436df","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":375,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:01:47.536Z","text":"你说的那些，结案快。诈骗案，结案没完没了&\n！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953077450746138436df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6388083533407effa9b5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":376,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:02:20.143Z","text":"我不替  国外的 说话   没给我付钱😂   我只认钱，所以 联盟 免费 “帮” 你们，找联盟去  😆  Percy 也是免费帮你们","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9650d42378d97eeb004","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6388083533407effa9b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9650d42378d97eeb004","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qed2d2d10c9af8ed4a5de","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":377,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:02:54.331Z","text":"也有可能，但我还是怀疑 有政府补贴  拿钱快","edited":false,"reply_to":"q953077450746138436df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed2d2d10c9af8ed4a5de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953077450746138436df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc7d6d0af57c1c26b543c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":378,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:38:59.519Z","text":"南区法院接受电子邮件pro se不是因为他们开明，而是因为纽约不懂英文找不到律师的穷人太多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7d6d0af57c1c26b543c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa56c70c117b837a47350","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":379,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:39:14.068Z","text":"他们必须这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa56c70c117b837a47350","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q64a50b2c7f6510087d4d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":380,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:39:38.909Z","text":"左派城市","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64a50b2c7f6510087d4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":381,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:49:41.019Z","text":"有一点 螺丝哥 我得给你科普一下，美国干啥 都慢！！慢！！慢！！  所以 人手不够 以前 是 慢 的借口，现在确实有可能  因为 政府停摆了 政府裁员很多也是事实。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ac02215e0496386b465","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfd3607781d123c5c1e58","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":382,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:50:29.314Z","text":"不过 移民局 大裁员后 效率提高了 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd3607781d123c5c1e58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":383,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:53:05.272Z","text":"左派城市，无现金保释很盛行啊！为什么对郭文贵，换了一套标准！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q090c66cb1e5fdb5707d5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":384,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:53:47.367Z","text":"政府停摆，如果法院也停摆，那更有理由延长没收程序了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q090c66cb1e5fdb5707d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qbdcaeb8bdaa5b11f26a7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":385,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:54:57.571Z","text":"左派双重标准呗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdcaeb8bdaa5b11f26a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q16916e01f6a3f3e449da","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":386,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:15:55.382Z","text":"no   你不懂美国，你记得吗  我问瑞恩 文件 有没有订书机 顶起来   ，我告诉你，你的文件 提交的时候 错一个地方  都不给你办","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99793b1f3e435acade56","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16916e01f6a3f3e449da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q33b44c2c7a292ac1c9b5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":387,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:16:35.397Z","text":"你以为  移民律师，刑事律师 钱 是 白花的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33b44c2c7a292ac1c9b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6286e43250a1eb5adced","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":388,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:17:24.884Z","text":"你们 一会  哭 没糖吃，一会 哭 不公平   这世界 就是不公平  不要叫了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6286e43250a1eb5adced","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":389,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:20:31.075Z","text":"我朋友 办 移民材料，找我免费办，不付钱 我才不给你办呢，我还是好心，我说 你儿子办，我免费给指导，结果他儿子 自以为是，根本不求助我，问我，结果 寄去2次 被移民局 拒绝，然后又来找我，我说 你被拒绝多次，给我钱 我都不敢办了，她没办法 只能花1400 美金 找了 律师给她办。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf771704b8e35804eb7fd","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":390,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-09T14:23:26.498Z","text":"正确的废话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf771704b8e35804eb7fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q545cb30843fcaf10ecce","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":391,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T14:27:15.659Z","text":"老郭的案子，要花一千两千，都能接受。问题是，一两千，一两万也不一定能够搞定啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q545cb30843fcaf10ecce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":392,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T14:28:45.635Z","text":"文字错误，标点错误。这些不是关键的错误，都无所谓。老郭把名字拼错，不照样收录支持者陈述。我的文件，连标题都写错英文单词，一开始不也上传了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3483c3a0480dc38d8ad1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":393,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T14:30:17.663Z","text":"就是不公平","edited":false,"reply_to":"q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3483c3a0480dc38d8ad1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf01d8595dcd6f6c91c55","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":394,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-09T14:35:07.260Z","text":"我只是代表性地选择了一些对话截图、收据、直播截图等，这样都有24页纸的投资记录。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e59f09d4019032e76b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf01d8595dcd6f6c91c55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e59f09d4019032e76b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q1b09616a581fa79f68cf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":395,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-09T14:36:19.935Z","text":"光整理这些投资记录都花了一周的时间。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b09616a581fa79f68cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4f9ded98aac36da58309","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":396,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-09T14:38:30.263Z","text":"Cover page 不能涂黑寄岀来去的。只是你发给我们大家看的时候才涂黑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f9ded98aac36da58309","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa7c3c59977e93ecc060c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":397,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-09T14:49:49.354Z","text":"如果你没有cover page 作一个简单说明，收件方是不会理解你为什么给他们发纸质的。你要让人知道你的纸质的是对应你曾经对应的哪个电子邮件。这就是一种针对性的说明。\n所以你的cover page 里最好还是要强调最近电子的不让上传，你没办法才用邮寄方式，而且邮寄费现在又特别贵也很不方便，你是万不得以才这么做的。这样为你以后的行动作好辅垫。\n昨天我的纸质的应该加上后面那的这段话就好了：因为邮递员罢工，纸质方式实在是太不方便了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c3c59977e93ecc060c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa656c598070e0077d83f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":398,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T15:04:40.730Z","text":"我8月1号的邮件。十月6号才收到😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa656c598070e0077d83f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q087ab249ceb7749aa542","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":399,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T15:05:14.587Z","text":"不懂美国 天天瞎逼逼抱怨。谁是真怨妇？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q087ab249ceb7749aa542","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2ed9f43de0caf1f626de","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":400,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T15:18:39.268Z","text":"最几把 不待见。又求美国 又骂美国的。滚回中国办 最好啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ed9f43de0caf1f626de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000045","next_batch_id":"batch-000047"}