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只能靠我 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you for contacting us again regarding your search for counsel in your ancillary petition as a third-party investor. Because we do not represent every private attorney in the city or the state, we do not have other private attorneys to advise or represent\n you in the particular case or situation that you have described.\n\n \n\nYou may find lawyers who can meet your needs by continuing your search for legal representation from other resources, such as www.martindale.com\n or \nLawyers.com","edited":false,"reply_to":"q208acba4e73f02699a61","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc01901a965bc59f58b7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qdb1d8b36ec97d7f89d1e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":238,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-08T15:11:45.218Z","text":"什么时候螺丝哥致富了 那就真的变天了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb1d8b36ec97d7f89d1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q86eb5e779b48c143f778","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":239,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T15:15:12.685Z","text":"这个案子如果你不在纽约找律师很难，即使你在纽约也很难，大部分律师有利益冲突。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc01901a965bc59f58b7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86eb5e779b48c143f778","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc01901a965bc59f58b7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb24f51240a8113d1cb74","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":240,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T15:15:41.435Z","text":"但也不是不可能，所以有钱的能找的，还是可以咨询一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb24f51240a8113d1cb74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qddbc8efed846fa7c961e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":241,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T15:16:05.238Z","text":"可以找一个比较小的律师事务所","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddbc8efed846fa7c961e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc931a41030955945bbb7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":242,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-10-08T16:03:51.907Z","text":"最近移民方面的文件严格了很多，要求必须是in 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pz0***］  peter律师 你觉得这个法庭会怎么收场啊？还能收场吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1aa5fcc24a15df8b533","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q53c166cba4ccd765a30c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":248,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T16:44:42.589Z","text":"他是律师吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1aa5fcc24a15df8b533","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53c166cba4ccd765a30c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1aa5fcc24a15df8b533","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qabf1ae6cfa2becd54bf1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":249,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-08T16:45:07.294Z","text":"美国司法要怎么重新收回老脸的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf1ae6cfa2becd54bf1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf7d2f1971b1101084491","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":250,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T16:45:26.959Z","text":"他就是peter","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53c166cba4ccd765a30c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7d2f1971b1101084491","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53c166cba4ccd765a30c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q491443315ed0f6c6a355","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":251,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T16:47:28.827Z","text":"一个律师一天到晚没事儿干？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q491443315ed0f6c6a355","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2eeae0addff534887338","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":252,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T16:48:07.482Z","text":"他全职都扑在郭案上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q491443315ed0f6c6a355","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eeae0addff534887338","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q491443315ed0f6c6a355","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5a367e7e5aded49d88bb","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":253,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T16:48:26.932Z","text":"对郭的舆论超限战，真是铺天盖地","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a367e7e5aded49d88bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf1fa180d4702fd3b5fe8","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":254,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T16:48:53.909Z","text":"法官还说这个案子绝对没有政治影响，她没觉得这个案子不正常吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1fa180d4702fd3b5fe8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe41de7dff4121a2b527a","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":255,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T16:48:57.529Z","text":"对白痴是有用的 对我们没用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a367e7e5aded49d88bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe41de7dff4121a2b527a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a367e7e5aded49d88bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q84b1f39d242a4741523e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":256,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T16:49:10.827Z","text":"法官自己都不正常 哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1fa180d4702fd3b5fe8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84b1f39d242a4741523e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1fa180d4702fd3b5fe8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5439f4828e46645b6786","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":257,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T18:52:25.803Z","text":"这是谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6fabc87122884b0ec436","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5439f4828e46645b6786","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fabc87122884b0ec436","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q0831f7c23805bb1b7516","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":258,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T18:53:03.640Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 这个人真的是精神病","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0831f7c23805bb1b7516","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfbdd0471a6d362d6768d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":259,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T18:53:10.065Z","text":"她写的是二巡prose","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbdd0471a6d362d6768d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q31a7e0b10a12a1828a0b","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":260,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T18:54:28.185Z","text":"她有原始股。然后她起诉了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe991996d4c623a0c00eb","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31a7e0b10a12a1828a0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q86a796ee9c332e067468","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":261,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T18:54:41.100Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  peter律师 你们接下去准备怎么办？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86a796ee9c332e067468","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3fee55953f86ab3576ec","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":262,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T18:54:56.625Z","text":"好像是的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc931a41030955945bbb7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fee55953f86ab3576ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc931a41030955945bbb7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7958503c5e32b89a4877","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":263,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-08T18:59:32.706Z","text":"这个人要释放三个人？？这么自信 王 和余 不是特务？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6fabc87122884b0ec436","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7958503c5e32b89a4877","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fabc87122884b0ec436","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc0c0ed2b85e210def51f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":264,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:07:03.099Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  Peter  我接下去怎么打 你说一下啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0c0ed2b85e210def51f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa64ed008083938743901","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":265,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:10:26.519Z","text":"https://x.com/dwfo838702/status/1769153266682642880?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa64ed008083938743901","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q1047db63f840f4af75eb","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":266,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:10:52.143Z","text":"https://x.com/dwfo838702/status/1768931061361258506?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1047db63f840f4af75eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcc99f6dd2bcad08934c8","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":267,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:11:01.894Z","text":"第一次看到这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc99f6dd2bcad08934c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb3fa46e98bac51769706","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":268,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:11:44.805Z","text":"这是哪个案子的法庭文件啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3fa46e98bac51769706","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc32ec48612e69d2a5233","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":269,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:13:18.976Z","text":"单位还是南区法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc32ec48612e69d2a5233","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q63543911348977c7dcc0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":270,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:14:47.383Z","text":"不是这个案件号","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd099bcba5d702d9f6880","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63543911348977c7dcc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q677b45319bc087c84861","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":271,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:15:41.474Z","text":"你去查查，这是什么案件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63543911348977c7dcc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q677b45319bc087c84861","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63543911348977c7dcc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5642ff50acf5dbe0b1fa","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":272,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:25:42.406Z","text":"我大概明白了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5642ff50acf5dbe0b1fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6ce09f0f6139df0f4fec","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":273,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:25:49.523Z","text":"这和我之前的推论一致","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ce09f0f6139df0f4fec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc584dda8b4722a772abb","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":274,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:26:04.603Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  70多个民事案 是刑事案的根基","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc584dda8b4722a772abb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2c4cc0d0aaa3b5cac566","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":275,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:26:18.716Z","text":"刑事案可以用民事案来支持叙事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c4cc0d0aaa3b5cac566","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q73de716be809505882ab","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":276,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:27:31.528Z","text":"sec诉郭民事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q677b45319bc087c84861","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73de716be809505882ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q677b45319bc087c84861","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qef4e1a2dcc3068b33989","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":277,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:28:41.677Z","text":"2023年3月15日开始的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef4e1a2dcc3068b33989","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qce3d2fe374c0a2ee7a5a","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":278,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:29:49.451Z","text":"破案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce3d2fe374c0a2ee7a5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qba04ae34c713436d83eb","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":279,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:29:53.461Z","text":"几千受害人哪来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba04ae34c713436d83eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd66fe0cb24a76ba9f88e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":280,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:30:11.377Z","text":"所以我不觉得几千受害人是编造的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd66fe0cb24a76ba9f88e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5ea09c85d1890b08f8ac","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":281,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:30:19.295Z","text":"债权人 +民事案的人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ea09c85d1890b08f8ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfaef334932134704ef23","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":282,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:30:34.616Z","text":"但这些人估计重合","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaef334932134704ef23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfabfd9956741feea6721","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":283,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:31:12.130Z","text":"你要抓程序不正义 只能从受害人名单入手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfabfd9956741feea6721","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q10a677ad061264064208","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":284,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:37:08.875Z","text":"SEC 民事案的起诉书","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10a677ad061264064208","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q26744cb7f2d784ad10a1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":285,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:48:21.849Z","text":"龚足茱莉亚，搞不好就是报案人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26744cb7f2d784ad10a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q58cea0682dfe597bf62d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":286,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:50:31.727Z","text":"sec起诉郭文贵民事案件，已早就暂停了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58cea0682dfe597bf62d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qef018eea1614f3a8d33e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":287,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:51:24.648Z","text":"介入民事案件，没有任何实质性意义。民事案又不抓人，不入狱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef018eea1614f3a8d33e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qeedcfe80620e6e345321","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":288,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:51:55.826Z","text":"那个sec起诉书是3月15日的，就是他被抓那天","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeedcfe80620e6e345321","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q83b96ae6290068a88e49","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":289,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:53:18.295Z","text":"sec应该是和检方配合。刑事案文件里面提到过，民事sec诉郭案已经暂停，等待刑事案结果。这应该是老郭申请暂停破产案里提到的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeedcfe80620e6e345321","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83b96ae6290068a88e49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeedcfe80620e6e345321","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc98698deb48ce3601f2c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":290,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:53:37.985Z","text":"检方估计是把sec里面的人 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都可以立","edited":false,"reply_to":"q781754ebbc4798480f29","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf87b547443b2450910d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q781754ebbc4798480f29","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7234a23140ce95ad86b6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":294,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:54:39.433Z","text":"我是说民事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7234a23140ce95ad86b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3f9765f04bbbbb456503","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":295,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:54:48.648Z","text":"刑事案是政府起诉的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f9765f04bbbbb456503","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf6b7293aeaadd04c530d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":296,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:54:56.970Z","text":"那不知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6b7293aeaadd04c530d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa85e5819d39cca3bc38b","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":297,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-08T19:56:23.855Z","text":"这个刑事案，到底什么时候开始的报案，多数人报案，是不是国内报案的人，被检方采纳，根本不知道。gtv被关，老郭说，是国内拿枪顶着去报案。但，那属于不属于这个刑事案，不确定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa85e5819d39cca3bc38b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q86d0807efdc9e12818c5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":298,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T19:57:16.973Z","text":"刑事案就是黑盒子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86d0807efdc9e12818c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q33016f5c72cd2befa960","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":299,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:59:01.251Z","text":"刑事案应该是大杂烩","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa85e5819d39cca3bc38b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33016f5c72cd2befa960","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa85e5819d39cca3bc38b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qe45d0106353092e788e2","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":300,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:59:03.480Z","text":"但我查了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe45d0106353092e788e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q99ccfd6d92b2453e2dac","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":301,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T19:59:08.990Z","text":"他们这样干是合法的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99ccfd6d92b2453e2dac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7bd04fe16557fbb717a6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":302,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T20:00:30.456Z","text":"他们到哪儿找的几千人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bd04fe16557fbb717a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc0ccc32fe761335ca4ad","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":303,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-08T20:00:44.817Z","text":"顶多几个人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0ccc32fe761335ca4ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q733f3bade63334b37fa1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":304,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-08T20:00:53.506Z","text":"估计吹牛了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7bd04fe16557fbb717a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q733f3bade63334b37fa1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bd04fe16557fbb717a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3fb305b809908daa7fa7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":305,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-0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土匪都节节败退了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43fdb820bf938513c49e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q19d433372d27757224a5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":326,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T09:24:25.953Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1976217130367652098?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19d433372d27757224a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":327,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T10:19:52.289Z","text":"农场借贷，还需要提供汇款单吗？还是有借贷合同就行?都是人民币对敲的 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§ 853(n) 的介入（third-party petition）有严格的 30 天期限要求；但同时，如果法院自身的做法（例如没有明确告知电子邮件动议的接收规则，或者延误 docket）导致当事人无法在期限内有效提交，那是有法律和判例基础可以请求延长期限或重新起算期限的。\n接下来打算邮寄纸质动议的，顺便再发送和邮寄一个Motion to Extend § 853(n) Filing Deadline Based on Equitable Tolling，可能可以给还没有进入程序的再争取30天时间。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q8de3af962194dcc42b7d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":333,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-09T10:53:10.254Z","text":"农场借贷也在没收范围","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8de3af962194dcc42b7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2daa53cdd8d149862402","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":334,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-09T10:54:01.980Z","text":"我有这个 能退我钱吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2daa53cdd8d149862402","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9afc4fa5ba09d49bb24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q307584e72b54bad1c367","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":335,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-09T10:54:45.444Z","text":"这个也在范围里，你想回本就要写动议啊，嘴上喊一点用没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q307584e72b54bad1c367","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q36bac8108f87d61a8704","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":336,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T11:23:37.268Z","text":"确实如此。法庭掐死，包括最早上传的延误，把第三方自诉打开，并且再延长一个月是非常合理的诉求。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36bac8108f87d61a8704","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":337,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T11:24:59.659Z","text":"不是60天吗？这30天指的是第一份动议吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3173febbfafea0aa3bea","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":338,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T11:28:01.472Z","text":"本来已经明着耍流氓了，你还跟他们讲道理？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3173febbfafea0aa3bea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":339,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T11:29:48.751Z","text":"政府公告30天，公告结束之后30天内也是介入时间。由于南区法院介入刑事案的电子邮件自诉规则没有公开清楚，导致利益相关者判断错误，没有及时有效提交，所以要延长介入时间，并且是从南区法院书面明确了有效提交方式后算起。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8c252f3e7c599fb92cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":340,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T11:30:35.114Z","text":"这个有什么法理根据吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q29a06bbc2c03830a685b","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":341,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T11:31:24.953Z","text":"不是规则问题，是法院带头违法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29a06bbc2c03830a685b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ece4e374858733a2bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":342,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T11:33:20.263Z","text":"确实不够公开透明，显得比较鸡贼。但它们的惯例就是这样。实际上美国很多联邦法院都是明确刑事案不接受电子邮件自诉。南区法院这方面还相对而言放得宽一些。根据机器人的反馈，本案法官在接受邮件自诉上在南区法院还属于计较开明的一类。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":343,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T11:34:18.232Z","text":"二、判例支持 — 可申请“equitable tolling”（公平延长）\n\n以下判例明确支持这一原则：\n\n1. United States v. Estevez, 845 F. Supp. 2d 496 (E.D.N.Y. 2012)\n\n法院认定，§ 853(n) 期限可以在“government’s failure to provide adequate notice”（政府未适当通知）或“extraordinary circumstances beyond petitioner’s control”下被延长。\n\n⚖️ 意思是：当政府或法院的程序错误导致你无法在期限内提交 petition，可请求延长。\n\n\n\n2. United States v. Burke, 2018 WL 3729517 (W.D.N.Y. Aug 6 2018)\n\n第三方主张自己没有及时获得合法通知（notice），法院接受“equitable tolling”，允许逾期介入。\n\n\n\n3. Dusenbery v. United States, 534 U.S. 161 (2002)\n\n虽然是资产没收案件，最高法院强调 due process requires notice “reasonably calculated to reach interested parties”。\n如果法院没有采取“合理方式通知”当事人，期限就不算启动。\n\n\n\n4. United States v. Rodriguez-Aguirre, 264 F.3d 1195 (10th Cir. 2001)\n\n如果政府或法院在通知或程序上存在瑕疵，法院可以延长 § 853(n) 期限。\n\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n三、适用你案情的逻辑链条\n\n你完全可以提出以下论证：\n\n1. 法院的行为造成了程序障碍：\nSDNY 没有公开、清晰地说明刑事案件中电子邮件提交的可接受性，也没有书面告知电子邮件动议是否会 docket；导致合理当事人（你）误以为电子提交有效。\n\n\n2. 法院的行为导致你未能及时提交纸质版本：\n因缺乏公开规则与反馈，你无法在 30 天内判断需要邮寄纸质版。\n\n\n3. 法院的行为违反了合理通知原则（Due Process）：\n依据 Dusenbery，法院有义务以“reasonably calculated”方式让当事人知道如何提交；未做到这点，等于没有触发 § 853(n)(2) 的时限。\n\n\n4. 因此，30 天的期限应当延长或重新计算：\n你可以请求法院基于 equitable tolling 原则，将介入截止日延长至少 30 天，从法院明确上传规则或 docket 你动议之日起算。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfedea7a3bfd4ad45ffae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":344,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T11:35:11.766Z","text":"其他案件，自诉不自诉，无所谓或者不是很重要。老郭案件，极为特殊。\n受害者面临这么好治迫害，人没在美国没有钱找律师。甚至不相信检方。那这些受害者，就被抹除了啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc0755766efde5b85ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":345,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-10-09T12:05:06.904Z","text":"我没有让卢克代表，也没有让盖儿代表，那法院是不是应该通知我？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc162ea62ee3046343bd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":346,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T12:20:44.033Z","text":"这个coverpage是涂黑保密信息后打印吗？ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfc6d6d056027656af298","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":347,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T12:21:36.669Z","text":"这个不属于法院的义务或者职责。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc6d6d056027656af298","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qd9ee7176e59bfb3aacd9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":348,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T12:21:37.941Z","text":"把他那段引用的内容截图附上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9ee7176e59bfb3aacd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4f5ae8ad80fccb98a096","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":349,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:22:29.224Z","text":"DOJ在网站上已经通知你了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc6d6d056027656af298","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5ae8ad80fccb98a096","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc6d6d056027656af298","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q967cfd4c64357d8e79d1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":350,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:22:57.949Z","text":"但是现在因为提交规则混乱，你可以要求延期","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q967cfd4c64357d8e79d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcba6ef16f1a8b3648ac0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":351,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:24:09.423Z","text":"现在看来纸质动议是最好的，即使不上传，以后也有证据可以上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba6ef16f1a8b3648ac0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":352,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-09T12:26:04.330Z","text":"谁说说这个coverpage是干嘛用的？上面内容要不要涂黑？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2e1dd0e085619ae008fa","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":353,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:26:09.942Z","text":"最开始打电话到书记处，他们说可以电子邮件，然后突然停止上传电子邮件，也不给书面解释，导致大家还是发电子邮件。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e1dd0e085619ae008fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q12a0122cca614ee3397a","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":354,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:26:42.153Z","text":"然后打电话给他们，说因为隐私都不上传了，但是并不是所有人都知道，也没有书面禁制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a0122cca614ee3397a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q53d78a352d4ae36facfe","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":355,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:27:02.318Z","text":"所以就很混乱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53d78a352d4ae36facfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qea50589cc7021d527ae0","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":356,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:27:43.801Z","text":"现在只能发纸质，保留证据了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea50589cc7021d527ae0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9cb611c64ad413632094","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":357,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:37:17.676Z","text":"这么复杂  最好全都有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cb611c64ad413632094","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cab97c26d941c05cd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q9debc74ab20249dd4b84","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":358,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:38:15.568Z","text":"机器人 答案不符合 实情，公告明明说的 60天，而且 根据 AZ法院的经验，本州30天，外周 也是 60天","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9debc74ab20249dd4b84","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f26ec221d6af679605e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q125811939c5df3d2925c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":359,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:38:48.395Z","text":"不在美国的投资者，尤其在中国的投资者，纸质几乎是不可能的或者很麻烦，电子邮件最快捷方便","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q125811939c5df3d2925c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q10b0bab6ae40c553ead5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":360,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:39:15.557Z","text":"要求不在美国的投资者提交纸质邮件，本来就不公平","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10b0bab6ae40c553ead5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q5da1da9e053674c47a01","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":361,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:39:48.473Z","text":"尤其在南区法院可以电子邮件Pro se的情况下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5da1da9e053674c47a01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qce7db17de871ec13b58c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":362,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:42:04.199Z","text":"不用，昨天瑞恩说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7db17de871ec13b58c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":363,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-09T12:42:49.815Z","text":"如果检方在它的网站上公告的是60天，那根据法条应该是公告结束子日延长30天也是可介入时间。不过可能它们自己也稀里糊涂的，它们想表达的应该是一共60天。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9debc74ab20249dd4b84","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9debc74ab20249dd4b84","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q80a55dad9ffc565a8008","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":364,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:42:58.274Z","text":"我查了一下，如果你发的动议14天内不上传，或者几个月不理你，就等于是法庭默认驳回你了，你们自己查一下是不是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80a55dad9ffc565a8008","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q61389fc5be82f588f073","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":365,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:43:33.111Z","text":"这是美国所有官方 文件来往  必备，当别人提到 这一页，那就100% 是要寄信的 最后一步了，有脑子有常识的 就不会质疑你 干了啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61389fc5be82f588f073","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qb1cec1231cbe087c3fe5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":366,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:47:00.314Z","text":"按说如果法院负责的话，根本不需要你自己涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1cec1231cbe087c3fe5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83634d103c1b56fc5a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":367,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:47:18.305Z","text":"根据我 AZ 法院  干  久指妖的经验，是的 明明 我们8月到期（外州60天） 但是开会的时候 法官亲自 说 时间 延长到 10月 17 号了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e2c3fa5a7f9384c7bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q77e7dbab30f39ccceec6","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":368,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:47:26.462Z","text":"你可以发两份，一份涂黑一份不涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77e7dbab30f39ccceec6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q911e0d25a03370d6ff45","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":369,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T12:48:36.378Z","text":"10月22日就是截止日期，这个没什么争议。但是10月22日之后，想延期，就需要你自己发动议延期。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q911e0d25a03370d6ff45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82fc32a6b5bc7dca1e25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q52474c3956ba58305b32","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":370,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:57:23.984Z","text":"非常好，你上去 反对 luc 代表的人 和 盖尔代表的人  就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52474c3956ba58305b32","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684cf0f4bcaa7b2f50ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":371,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T12:59:21.816Z","text":"在美国也找不到律师，有钱都找不到， 干久指妖 我找了一圈 律师，都不代理  都以 不在本州 和 不代理商业 拒绝了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27091c55b67fb9101f0f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":372,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:00:40.198Z","text":"全是他妈 代理   车祸案子的  医疗 案子的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q7046ed35cf6e4ac646f9","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":373,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:00:57.491Z","text":"[屏蔽词] 我都怀疑 是不是 这 种 案子 政府有补贴","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7046ed35cf6e4ac646f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc9650d42378d97eeb004","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":374,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:01:01.535Z","text":"你写反对结束没收程序的动议，可以写进去这些，也提一句郭文贵换律师听证会，法官也找不到律师。在美国的人尚且如此艰难，在国外的人，就更没有说话的机会了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9650d42378d97eeb004","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaf110f6eb2e03b17d77","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q953077450746138436df","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":375,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:01:47.536Z","text":"你说的那些，结案快。诈骗案，结案没完没了&\n！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953077450746138436df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb6ad0b7a41986c21c49","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6388083533407effa9b5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":376,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:02:20.143Z","text":"我不替  国外的 说话   没给我付钱😂   我只认钱，所以 联盟 免费 “帮” 你们，找联盟去  😆  Percy 也是免费帮你们","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9650d42378d97eeb004","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6388083533407effa9b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9650d42378d97eeb004","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qed2d2d10c9af8ed4a5de","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":377,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:02:54.331Z","text":"也有可能，但我还是怀疑 有政府补贴  拿钱快","edited":false,"reply_to":"q953077450746138436df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed2d2d10c9af8ed4a5de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953077450746138436df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qc7d6d0af57c1c26b543c","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":378,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:38:59.519Z","text":"南区法院接受电子邮件pro se不是因为他们开明，而是因为纽约不懂英文找不到律师的穷人太多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7d6d0af57c1c26b543c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa56c70c117b837a47350","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":379,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:39:14.068Z","text":"他们必须这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa56c70c117b837a47350","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q64a50b2c7f6510087d4d","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":380,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:39:38.909Z","text":"左派城市","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64a50b2c7f6510087d4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":381,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:49:41.019Z","text":"有一点 螺丝哥 我得给你科普一下，美国干啥 都慢！！慢！！慢！！  所以 人手不够 以前 是 慢 的借口，现在确实有可能  因为 政府停摆了 政府裁员很多也是事实。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ac02215e0496386b465","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qfd3607781d123c5c1e58","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":382,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T13:50:29.314Z","text":"不过 移民局 大裁员后 效率提高了 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd3607781d123c5c1e58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":383,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:53:05.272Z","text":"左派城市，无现金保释很盛行啊！为什么对郭文贵，换了一套标准！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q090c66cb1e5fdb5707d5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":384,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T13:53:47.367Z","text":"政府停摆，如果法院也停摆，那更有理由延长没收程序了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q090c66cb1e5fdb5707d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af72279af5b7812e0fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qbdcaeb8bdaa5b11f26a7","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":385,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T13:54:57.571Z","text":"左派双重标准呗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdcaeb8bdaa5b11f26a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd7aab8da2c7ffa64a16","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q16916e01f6a3f3e449da","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":386,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:15:55.382Z","text":"no   你不懂美国，你记得吗  我问瑞恩 文件 有没有订书机 顶起来   ，我告诉你，你的文件 提交的时候 错一个地方  都不给你办","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99793b1f3e435acade56","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16916e01f6a3f3e449da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q33b44c2c7a292ac1c9b5","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":387,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:16:35.397Z","text":"你以为  移民律师，刑事律师 钱 是 白花的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33b44c2c7a292ac1c9b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q6286e43250a1eb5adced","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":388,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:17:24.884Z","text":"你们 一会  哭 没糖吃，一会 哭 不公平   这世界 就是不公平  不要叫了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6286e43250a1eb5adced","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":389,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T14:20:31.075Z","text":"我朋友 办 移民材料，找我免费办，不付钱 我才不给你办呢，我还是好心，我说 你儿子办，我免费给指导，结果他儿子 自以为是，根本不求助我，问我，结果 寄去2次 被移民局 拒绝，然后又来找我，我说 你被拒绝多次，给我钱 我都不敢办了，她没办法 只能花1400 美金 找了 律师给她办。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf771704b8e35804eb7fd","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":390,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-09T14:23:26.498Z","text":"正确的废话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf771704b8e35804eb7fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q545cb30843fcaf10ecce","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":391,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T14:27:15.659Z","text":"老郭的案子，要花一千两千，都能接受。问题是，一两千，一两万也不一定能够搞定啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q545cb30843fcaf10ecce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2160dedc7f17f3dde752","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":392,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-09T14:28:45.635Z","text":"文字错误，标点错误。这些不是关键的错误，都无所谓。老郭把名字拼错，不照样收录支持者陈述。我的文件，连标题都写错英文单词，一开始不也上传了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q3483c3a0480dc38d8ad1","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":393,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-09T14:30:17.663Z","text":"就是不公平","edited":false,"reply_to":"q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3483c3a0480dc38d8ad1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q119c86e0df3a2fef7007","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qf01d8595dcd6f6c91c55","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":394,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-09T14:35:07.260Z","text":"我只是代表性地选择了一些对话截图、收据、直播截图等，这样都有24页纸的投资记录。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e59f09d4019032e76b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf01d8595dcd6f6c91c55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e59f09d4019032e76b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q1b09616a581fa79f68cf","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":395,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-09T14:36:19.935Z","text":"光整理这些投资记录都花了一周的时间。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b09616a581fa79f68cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q4f9ded98aac36da58309","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":396,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-09T14:38:30.263Z","text":"Cover 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里最好还是要强调最近电子的不让上传，你没办法才用邮寄方式，而且邮寄费现在又特别贵也很不方便，你是万不得以才这么做的。这样为你以后的行动作好辅垫。\n昨天我的纸质的应该加上后面那的这段话就好了：因为邮递员罢工，纸质方式实在是太不方便了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c3c59977e93ecc060c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b9b16fe09a96c86e2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"qa656c598070e0077d83f","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":398,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T15:04:40.730Z","text":"我8月1号的邮件。十月6号才收到😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa656c598070e0077d83f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q087ab249ceb7749aa542","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":399,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T15:05:14.587Z","text":"不懂美国 天天瞎逼逼抱怨。谁是真怨妇？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q087ab249ceb7749aa542","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"},{"id":"q2ed9f43de0caf1f626de","batch_id":"batch-000046","seq":400,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-09T15:18:39.268Z","text":"最几把 不待见。又求美国 又骂美国的。滚回中国办 最好啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ed9f43de0caf1f626de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000046"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000045","next_batch_id":"batch-000047"}