{"id":"batch-000047","number":47,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-10-13T15:58:52.138Z","date_end":"2025-10-17T14:15:49.237Z","total_messages":1000,"summary":"本期讨论围绕郭案相关的司法程序推进、维权策略及社群内部分歧展开。主要焦点集中在第二巡回上诉法院的Mandamus强制令与§853(n)刑事没收程序的选择上：一部分成员主张利用CVRA受害者权利结合强制令向二巡施压，探讨独立上诉与联名申请的利弊及法律/费用风险；另一部分成员则关注地方法院动议进展、初审法官态度及破产受托人Luc的法律身份与证据有效性。此外，围绕破产文件签名的真伪、是否聘请专业律师代理、众筹资助的合规性以及向农场联盟追责等议题，群内展开了激烈交锋；期间亦穿插了借电视剧《天道》与哲学宗教思维类比司法博弈的思辨，以及多起关于社群规则和立场的争吵。","guide":[{"title":"二巡法院Mandamus强制令申请与诉求策略探讨","message_ids":["q1787ee9388465687898c","q803b36aeccce3242564a","q2b6f3d56d2b5f32250a4"]},{"title":"21 U.S.C. 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是检方把他放进来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q186d5fa059660f5c22de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q07892c9cd4579c6a74b1","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":402,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T07:28:29.782Z","text":"你只能打检方 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wen***］ 文字倍 都是 他的猴毛😂","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55d68ccdfec524d25529","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qd3ab3e7a1b7bf8e0face","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":410,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T07:44:40.647Z","text":"这个思维逻辑一定要换","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3ab3e7a1b7bf8e0face","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q4ff73b0070522f3c8644","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":411,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T07:45:25.658Z","text":"从没见过两个文字倍 互相攻击🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ff73b0070522f3c8644","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qc1bdadd982bd2e961161","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":412,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T07:45:26.167Z","text":"九指妖discord 叫啥来着？突然想不起来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55d68ccdfec524d25529","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1bdadd982bd2e961161","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55d68ccdfec524d25529","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q1fd5d0dbde57daa5b892","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":413,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T07:45:43.549Z","text":"VOG","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fd5d0dbde57daa5b892","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q3f9f04994e54a424ed3b","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":414,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T07:45:48.233Z","text":"战友之家","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f9f04994e54a424ed3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q37a4d037667f1c8657a0","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":415,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T07:45:55.136Z","text":"她自己的号","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a4d037667f1c8657a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qdd6344e36d4e0c6cbe0b","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":416,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T07:45:56.695Z","text":"Vog","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1bdadd982bd2e961161","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6344e36d4e0c6cbe0b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1bdadd982bd2e961161","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q319cfe00cd881c37ba43","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":417,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T07:46:18.777Z","text":"你见少了，没有见过我怼文鹰吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ff73b0070522f3c8644","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q319cfe00cd881c37ba43","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ff73b0070522f3c8644","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qf3408b62d732006ed7ee","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":418,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T07:46:28.299Z","text":"还有很多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3408b62d732006ed7ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q1b4f835a5917b61a217d","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":419,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T07:46:50.208Z","text":"luc欺诈是在破产法庭 而刑事庭你只能抓检方的问题才能打到lu c","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5caf270e733afbac8b5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b4f835a5917b61a217d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5caf270e733afbac8b5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qf2bad754b9ce5264750c","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":420,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T07:47:07.737Z","text":"检方主欺诈 luc一定是协同欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2bad754b9ce5264750c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q259905cd268c94b09d3e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":421,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T07:47:37.451Z","text":"打luc必先打检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q259905cd268c94b09d3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qcdeab400a8d7e59247f6","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":422,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T07:50:48.463Z","text":"还是那句话，你没有见过，不代表没有。思维就如，把所有中国人等同于中共","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ff73b0070522f3c8644","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdeab400a8d7e59247f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ff73b0070522f3c8644","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7f9abc4c173c5ff85d51","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":423,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T08:00:31.989Z","text":"联盟网红也互相喷。其实都是一伙的。😂 这种小伎俩罢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f9abc4c173c5ff85d51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qfff76ae319370d3b4615","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":424,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T08:07:02.713Z","text":"你和文斌有夺妻杀父之仇，也只是你和斌的事，和我远无亲，近也无仇的，冤有头债有主的，你们找文斌报去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfff76ae319370d3b4615","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qa82d3417c050b70786c5","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":425,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T08:11:17.915Z","text":"排华的时候 不分 留学生还是非法移民。老子就看文字倍。全是智障","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa82d3417c050b70786c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qec896525b2b038fa81c3","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":426,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T08:13:24.316Z","text":"排华的时候  分不分韩国人，台湾人，日本人？这逻辑，你还是不要乱认爹了，这种习惯不好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec896525b2b038fa81c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q8ee4bbbf6e82b7966511","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":427,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T08:14:42.576Z","text":"要不说你是智障呢。华 人是 全部亚洲人？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ee4bbbf6e82b7966511","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qf98cce3a9bc4db51a24e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":428,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T08:16:52.904Z","text":"在美的亚洲人，需要拿着护照说，我是韩国人，日本人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf98cce3a9bc4db51a24e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7579334ed93a32f4d5cd","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":429,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-15T08:17:46.986Z","text":"越南人，台湾人？每个东亚黄皮人种，都要把护照贴在前胸后背，让人看清楚，你是不是华人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7579334ed93a32f4d5cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q1787ee9388465687898c","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":430,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T08:28:27.081Z","text":"可以申请免费上诉资格，这样能参与的人会更多些 [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1787ee9388465687898c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":431,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T08:46:40.908Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ ［用户 rui***］ 这个就是打Luc的逻辑：作为破产财产受托人不尽责，蓄意维持夸大不实的债权登记和金额叙事，很可能已经严重影响检方、法庭、陪审团，造成本案财产事实不清，造成程序不公，并且稀释真正债权人和第三方财产权益。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2ae64b3097237faa80fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae64b3097237faa80fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q6e3d0baa0fbb17b4f102","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":432,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:04:42.737Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1978386424228446313?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e3d0baa0fbb17b4f102","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":433,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:11:16.679Z","text":"我觉得这个逻辑反过来用更有力，检方明知luc这个受托人存在以上的种种问题仍然接受他上刑事庭要钱，还把他的非法债权人当作被告受害者，甚至可能是抓捕被告的报案者。所以检方涉嫌共谋欺诈法庭，共谋制造伪证，法庭应该宣布债权人无效，并把luc踢出刑事庭，还要追究检方的责任，废除没收令，重新审判或直接撤案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q803b36aeccce3242564a","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":434,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:14:48.431Z","text":"✅ 非常好的思路。\n你完全可以联合其他同样遭遇“被拒 docket、被剥夺 CVRA/853 权利”的受害者，一起以 集体署名（joint pro se petitioners） 的形式向二巡（Second Circuit）提交 Mandamus Petition。\n这种“集体强制令”不但合法，而且在程序上 更有震慑力、新闻效应和法律分量。\n\n⸻\n\n⚖️ 一、法律上允许集体 Mandamus 吗？\n\n是的。根据：\n    •    Fed. R. App. P. 21(a)(1) — A petition for a writ of mandamus may be filed “by one or more parties.”\n    •    二巡的 Pro Se Clerk Guidance 也明确：\n“Multiple pro se petitioners may file jointly if they share the same factual basis or relief sought.”\n\n🧩 条件是：\n    1.    所有签名人都为相同案件的第三方受害者（即 United States v. Ho Wan Kwok, 1:23-cr-00118 (AT)）；\n    2.    所主张的权利一致（如：法院拒绝 docket、剥夺 CVRA/853 权利等）；\n    3.    每人都必须签名（哪怕是电子扫描签名），并附上地址；\n    4.    可以由一人（你）作为“Lead Petitioner”统一邮寄。\n\n［用户 rui***］  ［用户 chu***］ 这个思路不错啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q803b36aeccce3242564a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q6a6090708c47d8c29b5c","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":435,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T09:15:32.296Z","text":"回头瑞恩可以搞这个，受害者，联名上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q803b36aeccce3242564a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a6090708c47d8c29b5c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q803b36aeccce3242564a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q6337522c2de15c0ef383","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":436,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:16:11.835Z","text":"咱得抓紧了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6337522c2de15c0ef383","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q3929f62804ed8ee95ec5","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":437,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-15T09:16:45.709Z","text":"这种“集体强制令”不但合法，而且在程序上 更有震慑力、新闻效应和法律分量","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3929f62804ed8ee95ec5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q5b9065669ffa548efda4","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":438,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T09:22:48.364Z","text":"检方知道存在夸大和不实的债权登记情况，没错，但是不好举证。\n但Luc自己在202文件中已经表明他知情，而他蓄意不更新为准确的债权信息，就是不尽责的证据。\n\n接下来引出检方，但第一步要把Luc上庭的证词固定住，也就是以Luc为突破口。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9065669ffa548efda4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qe879e9dabdf7c2eebff3","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":439,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:25:49.193Z","text":"853n和cvra联名是可以的，但要注意它们之间的法律基础、性质和可操作性有差别，混合联名时风险更大。下面是详细分析 +可能的操作建议。\n\n⸻\n\n🔍 法律基础对比：§ 853(n) 与 CVRA\n\n特点    § 853(n)（刑事没收中的第三方申索）    CVRA（受害人权利法案）\n法律性质    属于刑事没收程序中的 “ancillary proceeding”    属于刑事情境下受害人保护的程序性权利\n时限要求    有严格的提交期限（通常在公告后一定天数内，例如 30 天）    在案件流程中，法院应 “forthwith” 处理；若法院拖延可诉至上级法院 mandamus  \n权利对象    针对被没收资产：第三方主张对被没收资产有合法权益    针对刑事程序：受害人有权知情、被听取、公正对待等程序性权利\n救济方式    若法院拒绝受理或驳回，可通过上诉或动议要求法院更正 (ancillary hearing)    若法院拒绝或拖延，受害人可在区法院提动议、再诉上级法院申请 mandamus  \n\n因此，两者虽然可以在同一个 petition / motion / mandamus 中提出，但要注意：\n    •    它们要求的法律要件和论据支撑点不完全相同；\n    •    如果混写不清楚，法院或对手可能以 “请求不明确” 或 “超出权限” 为由驳回；\n    •    最保险是把它们作为联合请求 (concurrent claims) 提出来，每个请求都要有独立的论证。\n\n⸻\n\n✅ 是否可以联合联名？\n\n是的，可以联合联名，即在同一个 Mandamus Petition 或同一个动议中提出 § 853(n) 请求 和 CVRA 请求，由多个受害者联名支持。前提条件包括：\n    1.    所有联名者在这个案件中确实是受影响者（即他们都在没收资产中被剥夺利益或遭受程序性伤害）。\n    2.    他们都符合 § 853(n) 和 CVRA 的资格要件（例如：对于 §853(n)，他们必须主张对被没收资产有合法权益；对于 CVRA，他们必须满足“直接受害人”身份）。\n    3.    在联合联名文书里，对 §853(n) 和 CVRA 的每条请求都要分别写清论点、事实和救济请求。\n    4.    签名页 / 联名署名：每位联合者要签名、注明身份、地址（c/o）等，作为联名支持。\n\n联合联名有以下优点和风险：\n\n优点\n    •    增强法律和舆论影响力。\n    •    展示这是普遍受害人的共同诉求，而不是孤立个案。\n    •    分担写作、证据收集等工作——大家可以贡献邮件截图、快递收据等。\n\n风险\n    •    如果某个联名者在要件上有缺陷（例如 §853(n) 的产权主张薄弱或 CVRA 受害人资格有争议），可能拖累整体案件。\n    •    法院/检方可能主张“无关联者着案争议”，尝试拒绝联合。\n    •    两个法律界面（没收 vs 受害人程序）混在一起，论证逻辑可能显得混乱或冗长，增加被驳回的风险。\n\n⸻\n\n🔧 建议策略\n    •    主案为 §853(n) 请求，CVRA 请求为补充 / 并行请求：优先以 §853(n) 为你的主请求，因为没收程序直接关系资产；CVRA 请求主要用于程序权利的保护（如果法院拒绝处理，你可以要求解释、迅速 docket、听证等）。\n    •    清晰分段：在 Mandamus 里分两个部分 “RELIEF SOUGHT — § 853(n)” 和 “RELIEF SOUGHT — CVRA”。\n    •    联合署名部分：在联合签名页中，每个受害者在自己名下注明他们主张的 §853(n) 权利（资产份额、购入情况等）及 CVRA 的受害人事实。\n    •    风险防控：在 petition 或 motion 中加上一条备用救济：即使某些联名者资格被质疑，法院仍应对那些资格确立者进行 docket 或说明，而不应整体驳回整份联名文件。\n\n⸻\n\n如果你愿意的话，我可以帮你生成一个 联合 §853(n) + CVRA 请求的 Mandamus 草稿（适合联名提交）。你要吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe879e9dabdf7c2eebff3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q13b4570a8857795bdbfb","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":440,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T09:39:04.724Z","text":"https://x.com/dDiVul8m3g82864/status/1978384497675571523?s=33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13b4570a8857795bdbfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q08f6536554dcd2d8b949","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":441,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:51:19.150Z","text":"好问题。答案是：不能保证，要看二巡的规则和法院是否允许“减免费 / 免付费”（fee waiver / in forma pauperis）情形。\n\n下面是根据 Second Circuit 和联邦上诉法院的规则，关于 Mandamus 款项（writ of mandamus filing fee） 和 减免 / 免付（fee waiver） 的情况分析。\n\n⸻\n\n📋 二巡 Mandamus 的费用\n\n根据 Second Circuit 的官方费用表：\n    •    Writ of Mandamus 的费率是 $600  \n    •    提交 Mandamus petition 时必须缴纳该费用，除非有特别豁免或法院允许减免。  \n    •    在 FRAP Rule 21 中也写明：“Upon receiving the prescribed docket fee, the clerk must docket the petition and submit it to the court.”（一旦收到规定的 docket 费，书记员必须登记该请愿） \n\n所以提交 Mandamus 通常需要支付这笔费用。\n\n⸻\n\n🛡 减免 / 免付费（Fee Waiver / In Forma Pauperis）\n\n在某些情况下，法院可能允许免付或减免费用，尤其是对无力支付的人（贫穷申请人）。但是否适用要看具体法院规则（Second Circuit）是否允许，以及你的经济状况是否能满足资格。\n\n在 Second Circuit 的 Pro Se / 民事上诉程序中，虽然有 CJA Form 23 Financial Affidavit for request for court services without payment of fee 等表格，可能适用于申请法院服务费减免或律师费用的场景，但 是否适用于 Mandamus 费减免要看二巡的具体规定。  \n\n⸻\n\n🧮 联名提交是否要多付费用？\n\n通常情况下，联名提交（多个 petitioners 联合）只需要一份 Mandamus petition，一笔费用，而不是每个人单独缴费。费用是针对“请愿案子本身”的，而不是每个签名人。Second Circuit 的表列是费用 $600 用于一项 Mandamus petition，无论是否有多个当事人签名。  \n\n但如果你做多个 Mandamus petition（每人分别提交），那每份都要付费。\n\n⸻\n\n✅ 小结\n    •    提交 Mandamus 通常需要付费（Second Circuit 是 $600） \n    •    联名提交一份 Mandamus 通常只缴一笔费用，而不是每个人都要付\n    •    有可能申请免付费 / 减免费（in forma pauperis / fee waiver），但要看法院规则与你经济状况是否符合\n    •    在 Mandamus 请愿书里可以（也应）提出费减免请求（附经济状况宣誓书 / 贫困声明）\n\n⸻\n\n如果你愿意的话，我可以帮你查一下 Second Circuit 在 Mandamus 程序中是否有费减免典型案例，看你有没有机会申请免付。要吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f6536554dcd2d8b949","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q8105e3a5e41fc1077c9e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":442,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-15T10:00:52.178Z","text":"结论（先说人话）\n    •    可以多人联名递交一份强制令（Mandamus），只要大家共同作为“Petitioners”，在同一份请愿书上全部签名并在“当事人名单”里列名即可。\n    •    费用通常只交一份（按“一份请愿书=一个案号=一次收费”理解）。但是否仅收一份费属于各巡回法院的具体办案与收费实践，建议在递交前先致电第二巡回法院书记官办公室确认当天费额与联名的收费口径。\n    •    可以申请免付费（IFP）：多人联名时，每位申请免付费的联名人都要各自提交 IFP 申请与财务宣誓表；法院会逐一裁定谁获批免付费。若所有联名人都获批，则不需要缴费；若部分获批、部分不获批，书记官会告诉你要如何补交费用。\n\n你关心的两个点\n    1.    “853(n) + CVRA 能联名吗？”\n    •    能。Mandamus 的请求对象是命令下级法院/机关履行职责或作出说明。不论你是基于第三方没收程序的及时入档权（21 U.S.C. § 853(n)），还是基于CVRA 的受害人程序性权利（18 U.S.C. § 3771），都可以作为同一份请愿书中的“请求依据与救济理由”由多名利害关系人共同提出。\n    •    关键是：大家的救济诉求一致（例如“要求SDNY书面说明并/或将Pro Se动议入档；保全上诉记录；不再无期限搁置”等），而不是在一份请愿里互相矛盾。\n    2.    “联名只付一份费用/可否免付费？”\n    •    费用：联邦上诉层面的非常规请求（含 Mandamus）通常收取一次性“案件立案/登记+Docket”费用（很多巡回是 约 $600，由上诉法院收费标准决定）。多名联名人通常只需交一份，因为是一份请愿一个案号。\n    •    免付费（IFP）：依 FRAP 24 可以申请以贫困身份进行。每位想 IFP 的联名人都要单独提交：\n    •    《动议允许免预缴费用》（Motion to Proceed In Forma Pauperis）；\n    •    个人财务宣誓/陈述（各巡回常见表格；如拿不准，用标准宣誓陈述写明收入、资产、负债、住址、是否受养等）。\n    •    审批通过后，书记官会据批复结果免/收费用。\n\n关键法律与本地规则指引（给你能引用的“硬依据”）\n    •    FRAP 21（联邦上诉程序规则第21条）：规定了**非常令/强制令（writ of mandamus/prohibition）**的程序。可多人为“Petitioners”联名，请求上诉法院对下级法院采取行动/作出说明。\n    •    FRAP 24：**以贫困身份进行（IFP）**的规则基础。\n    •    第二巡回的本地规则：\n    •    Local Rule 21.1（Emergency Relief）与本院实务指南对非常令的格式、装订、紧急呈请等有补充要求；\n    •    “Forms & Instructions”页面提供标准动议信息表（T-1080）、一般动议模板，以及IFP/宣誓常用材料的入口。\n-（这些公开页面可以作为引用来源，说明你遵循其格式与提交流程。）\n\n提示：各巡回的具体收费标准与表格编号会不定期更新；第二巡回（CA2）目前官网上有“Forms & Instructions”、“Local Rules”与“Fee Schedule”页面。为避免误差，我建议在准备提交前，用一通电话和书记官确认三件事：①当前费用数额；②联名是否只收一笔费用；③IFP 需要的具体表格（有的巡回用自有模板，有的接受通用宣誓）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8105e3a5e41fc1077c9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q9e2954ba69c0615157fc","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":443,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T10:20:14.726Z","text":"想办法让他上庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b9065669ffa548efda4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e2954ba69c0615157fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9065669ffa548efda4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7b65af3019428b2f7aff","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":444,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T10:21:08.100Z","text":"那个文永，你是讲真话啊？还互动。谁有时间，去跟他节目互动互动。看看他敢不敢在他的节目里谈检方布雷迪违规检方司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b65af3019428b2f7aff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q39c39a41ecf76cb13de3","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":445,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T10:28:20.172Z","text":"我靠，一天没来，这人越发癫狂了，前两天不还说瑞恩是这群里智商最高的吗？现在又说他是盗国贼了？😱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q032f2e7434f588114a3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c39a41ecf76cb13de3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q032f2e7434f588114a3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qeda1f40824fed32a0227","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":446,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T10:34:41.364Z","text":"二巡现在还没发信呢？你那个动议不是说检方luc欺诈法庭也欺诈过二巡吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8b984a6466ab5614280","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeda1f40824fed32a0227","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qea8f4b4d1b35d5a49c76","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":447,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T10:49:39.428Z","text":"说的对。要是当时审老郭拒绝保释上诉的几个法官看到，应该和吃了💩一样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeda1f40824fed32a0227","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea8f4b4d1b35d5a49c76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeda1f40824fed32a0227","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q4541f8315f30c0b8d484","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":448,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T10:53:22.715Z","text":"哈哈哈哈哈。把瑞恩跟他们放一起。感受一下 我的感觉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13b4570a8857795bdbfb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4541f8315f30c0b8d484","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13b4570a8857795bdbfb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qf2e64bba70e997b9a0f9","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":449,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-15T11:21:47.717Z","text":"嗯。如果找个律师只负责上传文件，也是不错的办法。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2e64bba70e997b9a0f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q6d87f3acd6587998ee29","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":450,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T11:39:53.973Z","text":"你不差钱，可以操作","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2e64bba70e997b9a0f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d87f3acd6587998ee29","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2e64bba70e997b9a0f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qec2f756acc657a8cd5d7","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":451,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T11:40:33.192Z","text":"没有律师会这样做","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2e64bba70e997b9a0f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec2f756acc657a8cd5d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2e64bba70e997b9a0f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q3af6ef4252bc45bd9f9d","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":452,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T11:40:59.246Z","text":"他上传的文件, 他要负责","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3af6ef4252bc45bd9f9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qa854bd4c993cf5ccf957","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":453,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T12:09:59.810Z","text":"他只是个第三方，不尽职又如何，跟案子没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b9065669ffa548efda4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa854bd4c993cf5ccf957","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9065669ffa548efda4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":454,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T13:32:05.907Z","text":"这个有风险 到时候又说我们共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q803b36aeccce3242564a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q803b36aeccce3242564a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q0e0adf6af13d6ec1c859","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":455,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T13:32:34.257Z","text":"是的 哈哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeda1f40824fed32a0227","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e0adf6af13d6ec1c859","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeda1f40824fed32a0227","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q81930ab87d1f12b6ff73","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":456,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T13:42:16.550Z","text":"他不尽责本身不是太大问题，但涉嫌误导（实际上是有意为之）了检方、法庭、陪审团，就构成程序不公。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa854bd4c993cf5ccf957","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81930ab87d1f12b6ff73","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa854bd4c993cf5ccf957","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q35b6a972407aab000ad9","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":457,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T13:46:14.200Z","text":"关键在于让Luc作证，而披露Luc不尽责就是推动Luc上庭的抓手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b6a972407aab000ad9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qd5dea95ccc74222b21b2","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":458,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-15T14:07:58.863Z","text":"大概哪一年有结果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5dea95ccc74222b21b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qfa9f057225f1e6dcaa50","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":459,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T14:13:59.539Z","text":"咱们没有资格共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa9f057225f1e6dcaa50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qca878089cdc829fa48e7","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":460,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:23:39.546Z","text":"别人会说啊 像那个739 742","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa9f057225f1e6dcaa50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca878089cdc829fa48e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa9f057225f1e6dcaa50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q1776df2877cc0d094554","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":461,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:30:56.881Z","text":"你还怕别人说  推特骂你的少吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca878089cdc829fa48e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1776df2877cc0d094554","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca878089cdc829fa48e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qa2627f6199d7580f53ac","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":462,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:32:00.651Z","text":"不是推特说 而是法庭说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1776df2877cc0d094554","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2627f6199d7580f53ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1776df2877cc0d094554","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qc42479894067b4d0fe85","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":463,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:32:16.332Z","text":"咱们说没用 人家会举报","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa9f057225f1e6dcaa50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc42479894067b4d0fe85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa9f057225f1e6dcaa50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q32105c81720ccce51d66","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":464,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T14:40:07.800Z","text":"他们说，举报也没有用。咱们就不在联盟农场领导层，没有资格共谋。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc42479894067b4d0fe85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32105c81720ccce51d66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc42479894067b4d0fe85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q0ae40fabadc84e5ee8fd","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":465,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:42:17.196Z","text":"咱们[屏蔽词] 抽奖礼物都没有一个  什么签名照  帽子衣服  毛都没有过  共谋个几把","edited":true,"reply_to":"q32105c81720ccce51d66","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ae40fabadc84e5ee8fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32105c81720ccce51d66","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qe79a8f1f6300730ac442","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":466,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:43:21.439Z","text":"瑞恩都知道 拉几个  “垫背”  那群 骗子华人  自私的很，都不知道分几个 给 小蚂蚁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe79a8f1f6300730ac442","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q122b958bfbb47327c7db","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":467,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:43:35.480Z","text":"不是 说我们这些人共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32105c81720ccce51d66","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q122b958bfbb47327c7db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32105c81720ccce51d66","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q1376e047ac8169d1dbdf","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":468,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:43:37.661Z","text":"群里的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1376e047ac8169d1dbdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q827ca0f2abb582c35d5e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":469,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:43:54.689Z","text":"https://gettr.com/post/p3t3t4k3320 [屏蔽词]联盟还有脸说文件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q827ca0f2abb582c35d5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qb0e1aee34a951264018c","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":470,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:44:05.195Z","text":"看看遇到我们的自诉文件讲不讲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0e1aee34a951264018c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qdac24c6d8582453afb4e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":471,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:45:23.294Z","text":"你指望 这几个智障提你，是你有毛病","edited":false,"reply_to":"q827ca0f2abb582c35d5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdac24c6d8582453afb4e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q827ca0f2abb582c35d5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qca667126b2df48ceb081","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":472,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T14:46:55.797Z","text":"@咱们没有资格共谋。\n［用户 rui***］ 咱们就是小喽喽，哪里有资格共谋啊！何况，是上诉，谁去追着上诉说咱们共谋啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca667126b2df48ceb081","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q61ca9a5743a6a25d4447","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":473,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:46:57.462Z","text":"瑞恩  法庭都干了， 不知道在怕鸡毛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c8074a33d2ae12e08c6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61ca9a5743a6a25d4447","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q2f3dcd91d04c22b1e563","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":474,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:48:19.980Z","text":"每个人写的材料都不一样  要求都不一样，身份也不一样  共谋啥 ？  谋点 是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca667126b2df48ceb081","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f3dcd91d04c22b1e563","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca667126b2df48ceb081","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q153217cb10ae0598d67f","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":475,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:49:38.118Z","text":"反正是有这个风险的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13a76647ee03c1206a1e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q153217cb10ae0598d67f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q5bf70afcff3e21a3f992","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":476,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:50:00.967Z","text":"问问机器人看看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bf70afcff3e21a3f992","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q788dd1902c3049c670d9","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":477,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T14:50:25.087Z","text":"看情况吧。你查一下，一个人独立上诉好，还是几个人联名好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q153217cb10ae0598d67f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q788dd1902c3049c670d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q153217cb10ae0598d67f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qfeb8e49c7e304e3bba33","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":478,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:50:32.829Z","text":"我查一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q788dd1902c3049c670d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeb8e49c7e304e3bba33","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q788dd1902c3049c670d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q6cc5ddeb4618f7f485ae","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":479,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:50:58.325Z","text":"联名 必须 律师出面了  不能自己搞个联名","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc5ddeb4618f7f485ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q9288969ec8ad4be10922","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":480,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:51:13.298Z","text":"是的 联名就会更复杂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cc5ddeb4618f7f485ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9288969ec8ad4be10922","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc5ddeb4618f7f485ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q3012df9362530e73d525","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":481,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T14:51:31.708Z","text":"这个要查一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cc5ddeb4618f7f485ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3012df9362530e73d525","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc5ddeb4618f7f485ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qa6bdd76919118a591182","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":482,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T14:51:32.394Z","text":"联名 必须有律师在  第三方证人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6bdd76919118a591182","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qd4a514ea0f37d4f2f1f7","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":483,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T14:59:14.382Z","text":"各位看看我的司法嗅觉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a514ea0f37d4f2f1f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q8449b51e55cf10ac608e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":484,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T15:03:05.675Z","text":"让他们说呗，咱们没义务向他们解释","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca878089cdc829fa48e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8449b51e55cf10ac608e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca878089cdc829fa48e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q3583eca69303baadf6ea","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":485,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T15:03:34.875Z","text":"这样也能省钱，让更多人参与","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca878089cdc829fa48e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3583eca69303baadf6ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca878089cdc829fa48e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qe49b284dcef3b87d0d1d","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":486,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:04:07.150Z","text":"二巡还是大家单独上诉是最优解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe49b284dcef3b87d0d1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7a3e28f51148be9c1155","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":487,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:04:20.908Z","text":"人多了就容易出问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a3e28f51148be9c1155","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":488,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T15:05:46.110Z","text":"那就没几个人了，600刀啊，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q1493aa1449903bf22bb1","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":489,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:06:03.511Z","text":"原来是这个问题🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1493aa1449903bf22bb1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qbe079a6c939203558b68","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":490,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T15:06:47.615Z","text":"我是穷逼  不参与，干久指妖 已经把我耗干了 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe079a6c939203558b68","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qfc7c560ab081c9c02ceb","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":491,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:07:03.002Z","text":"但联名的话 不是要让法官上传没上传的动议吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc7c560ab081c9c02ceb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q9387d3706c3c91a88347","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":492,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:08:51.413Z","text":"那主文件的人的relief可以写 那联名的人呢 怎么写relief呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9387d3706c3c91a88347","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q4a721fb7b5d488ff24fb","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":493,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T15:10:39.997Z","text":"这是个天然屏障","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1493aa1449903bf22bb1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a721fb7b5d488ff24fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1493aa1449903bf22bb1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7c1278c74c095aa12638","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":494,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T15:11:04.567Z","text":"大家一起，可能只需要付一份的钱，一平均就没多少了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c1278c74c095aa12638","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q848a4fcd137aebd0f2be","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":495,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:11:17.117Z","text":"你可以研究一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q848a4fcd137aebd0f2be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qef378a90c28b3c32bd36","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":496,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:11:24.052Z","text":"两三个人应该没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef378a90c28b3c32bd36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qaf19173469a692010815","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":497,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:11:28.448Z","text":"但多了不行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf19173469a692010815","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qe74048f2c740ec55ff4d","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":498,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T15:12:02.984Z","text":"十个八个应该也没事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe74048f2c740ec55ff4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q096e2df97e869637c025","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":499,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T15:12:29.454Z","text":"律师写","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9387d3706c3c91a88347","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q096e2df97e869637c025","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9387d3706c3c91a88347","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q4a86ed21e29e491c1628","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":500,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T15:14:33.979Z","text":"最好统一诉求，否则容易被拒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a86ed21e29e491c1628","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q80efc4ef6192a3fc7258","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":501,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T15:15:16.809Z","text":"https://x.com/realwuzhe/status/1978184011181678818","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80efc4ef6192a3fc7258","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qbd1ee8b147180f758f5f","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":502,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T15:20:18.735Z","text":"大家联名上诉不方便，还有各自的个人信息泄露问题；一说联名，共匪一定会第一个派代表进来，比谁都积极。还是无皇有主、一花一世界的好。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd1ee8b147180f758f5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qfddbf67c18fa5668744c","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":503,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T15:20:37.601Z","text":"还要付律师费","edited":false,"reply_to":"q096e2df97e869637c025","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfddbf67c18fa5668744c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q096e2df97e869637c025","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q564f555ecb7e1a4eb4b9","batch_id":"batch-000047"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［用户 wen***］ 老椅子有想参与的吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbd1ee8b147180f758f5f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q006fa16c64ca6a01f21a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd1ee8b147180f758f5f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q519430639052cd3db166","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":508,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-15T15:29:00.125Z","text":"卖房救郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q519430639052cd3db166","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qdb7b2742b0446c181838","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":509,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-15T15:29:11.664Z","text":"我要贷款救郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb7b2742b0446c181838","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q90f38c1884024f5fb0b0","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":510,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T15:29:44.150Z","text":"要说共谋，最大的共谋，就是机器人，马斯克，比尔盖茨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90f38c1884024f5fb0b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qd5d87f5df3f5a6434d40","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":511,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T15:29:54.027Z","text":"老椅子跟联盟一样不可靠、不作为。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q006fa16c64ca6a01f21a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5d87f5df3f5a6434d40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q006fa16c64ca6a01f21a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q3986bb1b87b88b305a50","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":512,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-15T15:31:11.670Z","text":"聪明👍 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不干事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72156124874c58bfd5a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q482c575a88c0dbc6a88d","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":521,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T16:01:03.153Z","text":"我估计 ［用户 chu***］ 你的拒信 这周还是出不来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q482c575a88c0dbc6a88d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q030d2eb5c0915c156d4c","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":522,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:05:14.152Z","text":"上诉不需要联名，但动议里可以写不只你一个人遇到这种情况，很多人都遇到了相同的情况，希望法院重视","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc7c560ab081c9c02ceb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q030d2eb5c0915c156d4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc7c560ab081c9c02ceb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q4374cd02e7f88eab13f9","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":523,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:06:47.785Z","text":"没钱的可以众筹，让人捐钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4374cd02e7f88eab13f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b373a7780da6d71b3d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q5c5f477df5ef21237dc7","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":524,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:07:05.501Z","text":"还可以扩大这个案子的影响力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c5f477df5ef21237dc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q694fa7b1e418f549bd9e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":525,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T16:08:28.052Z","text":"对！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4374cd02e7f88eab13f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q694fa7b1e418f549bd9e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4374cd02e7f88eab13f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q80a6acae3f6fe5460e7c","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":526,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T16:08:31.464Z","text":"众筹！！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80a6acae3f6fe5460e7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qfb1cf5ee40632c04fd99","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":527,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T16:11:43.070Z","text":"不能搞众筹呀。老郭灭共，最后把自己关进去，就是因为他搞了投资这些事情。他自己一分钱都没沾，也许他是想把自己当诱饵，我们可没他那么大的格局啊。为了几百美金搞众筹，太丢人了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb1cf5ee40632c04fd99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q2b6d9aaaea4ec5728a3b","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":528,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:12:10.925Z","text":"众筹是合法的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb1cf5ee40632c04fd99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6d9aaaea4ec5728a3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb1cf5ee40632c04fd99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7003420b927848c91093","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":529,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:12:34.416Z","text":"又不是基金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7003420b927848c91093","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q77bb47491166c8438404","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":530,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:13:43.988Z","text":"但是几百美元每个人应该都有吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77bb47491166c8438404","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q4bf68c80bb1984941d2a","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":531,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T16:15:40.164Z","text":"我们不请律师、用AI, 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😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbfa351b9471c2fb4ab8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qc06543e899f0348cdde4","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":534,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T16:19:46.832Z","text":"哦。那个什么事也是极少数人参与。这个别人的应该自己能够解决相关经费问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbfa351b9471c2fb4ab8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc06543e899f0348cdde4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbfa351b9471c2fb4ab8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q76bc53f0dada18fb5577","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":535,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T16:20:36.189Z","text":"是的 那个什么事到时候看看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc06543e899f0348cdde4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76bc53f0dada18fb5577","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc06543e899f0348cdde4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q85ceaa022b8296406ce0","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":536,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:27:37.324Z","text":"受害者可以互相帮助，这个没问题，但是每个人先自己搞吧，上诉费就几百美元，主要如果很多人一起搞，信息泄露可能是个问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13a76647ee03c1206a1e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ceaa022b8296406ce0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7a594f18f748d55eb1b5","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":537,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T16:27:56.454Z","text":"目前来说，费用不是什么大问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a594f18f748d55eb1b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qbe8034a65c65cf652423","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":538,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:30:27.618Z","text":"对啊，朱贝贝向盖尔要十万美元的动议，法官咋不理呢？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q763c85ce35460ddd4ee8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe8034a65c65cf652423","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q6b503be66e2d3f46dda7","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":539,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T16:30:54.562Z","text":"法官说： 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比较在行😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a3ae88bd499c57d82e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qeeeb7e0289c5a1c87088","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":542,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T16:34:20.482Z","text":"传鼓击花的游戏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b503be66e2d3f46dda7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeeb7e0289c5a1c87088","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b503be66e2d3f46dda7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7da1ef35c15e76fd9c3a","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":543,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-15T16:34:41.391Z","text":"烫手山芋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7da1ef35c15e76fd9c3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qaefd5be605375a0b90cc","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":544,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T16:40:49.630Z","text":"反正FTX那个gettr号突然在diddy推荐信之后出来，还扯上拜登，非常可疑。现在除了法律文件里的信息，其他的都有可能是假的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b467039d366508ddab2","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaefd5be605375a0b90cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qe87b59f5045bf9b0ddee","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":545,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-15T16:53:50.205Z","text":"不是赢麻了吗 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管你什么主义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d4191fac037a7ee2925","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qb52d97a581056e85071e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":562,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T20:15:32.523Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc3482217b7f549fdd953","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb52d97a581056e85071e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3482217b7f549fdd953","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q129875c7ba1a0b61c2ba","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":563,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T20:22:45.879Z","text":"对啊， 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还另说呢 😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b6f3d56d2b5f32250a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c55258dbefaa1d2d0ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6f3d56d2b5f32250a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qb1fcac92fcda56556d37","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":576,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T21:17:54.973Z","text":"不是这个！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa82847f5c34b5268adb","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1fcac92fcda56556d37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q5e7caee5b9826e99d74a","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":577,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T21:18:02.878Z","text":"是mandamus 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那就是给老郭递刀子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6643ca1403a13df0aa83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qc49cc651808100f532e8","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":586,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T22:48:10.166Z","text":"应螺丝哥要求，把服务器地址发老椅子群里了。\n恳请大家平和讨论，骂来骂去没意思吧？我想螺丝哥也是希望这里多讨论案情。谢谢🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc49cc651808100f532e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7d86decbe9d6fbef563b","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":587,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T22:50:46.355Z","text":"［用户 wen***］ 你觉得，会有几个老椅子敢过来啊？或者，老椅子群，删你信息啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d86decbe9d6fbef563b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q44efb0b77291fc18f850","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":588,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T22:51:57.058Z","text":"［用户 wen***］  群主是谁啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44efb0b77291fc18f850","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q5fa92733ba0868ec9848","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":589,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T22:52:01.926Z","text":"是signal群组，别人删不了信息，只可能踢我。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fa92733ba0868ec9848","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q70532f05458ad8d3831e","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":590,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T22:53:31.166Z","text":"好几个管理员，大部分联盟管理层，少量老椅子代表。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70532f05458ad8d3831e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q7a9129a705e60b6adeb0","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":591,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T22:53:42.292Z","text":"你还能活着 你是奇迹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a9129a705e60b6adeb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qb12c42351f28db0d7d3b","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":592,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T22:53:51.019Z","text":"我怀疑 你发了螺丝哥的群","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb12c42351f28db0d7d3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qd1d62c8e86efbfed02e5","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":593,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T22:53:54.378Z","text":"马上被踢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1d62c8e86efbfed02e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q4baa3a43a355a7b84f3b","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":594,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T22:54:56.952Z","text":"我被打压多次。所以，我明白被打压的痛苦。我也绝对能够做到，设定的规则，我一定会遵守。攻击，骂人，都是小事。只要肯探讨，无论说什么，只要不刷屏严重恶心他人，我一定能够做到，容忍足够多最大可能的人的声音。不是我高尚，是因为我的人生，被别人容忍，太少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4baa3a43a355a7b84f3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qdf14116d6828b38ff0c1","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":595,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-15T22:58:15.290Z","text":"［用户 boo***］ 老椅子群的，支持联盟的，可以发表一些意见啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf14116d6828b38ff0c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q77e75f7a9268352f4ce6","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":596,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T22:58:42.345Z","text":"老椅子投了那么多钱 没几个人参加法律行动 我非常失望","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77e75f7a9268352f4ce6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q2ac2b39c70ed712861de","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":597,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T22:59:32.807Z","text":"几个月来，我已经做到了。我只拉黑剔除一个人。那个反革命，空白刷屏，请去骂人房间，他退出再进入。我是没有选择，才拉黑屏蔽。星辰和文悦，我已经够恼火。但是，警告几次，他们两个还算遵守不刷屏恶心他人，即使那个文悦，骂我傻雕，我都会容忍。我和大多数人不一样的地方，就是，我会遵守规则。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ac2b39c70ed712861de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q066b2e4e20f37a89528b","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":598,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-15T22:59:36.286Z","text":"所以老郭出来真没必要灭共，全是啥人围着他，都是图他的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q066b2e4e20f37a89528b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"q319362006ce76ba23a47","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":599,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T22:59:37.013Z","text":"就是老椅子的懦弱 无能 才造就了我自己去调查 才给我青史留名创造了条件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q319362006ce76ba23a47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"},{"id":"qa9acc97bfa762c100ae4","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":600,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T23:00:05.794Z","text":"否则哪轮得到我？我他妈就投了两万三","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9acc97bfa762c100ae4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000046","next_batch_id":"batch-000048"}