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前面律师啥都没干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa16cb3e3f07a2cdf6bb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q8d05f42c74d8062ca732","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":407,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:07:19.799Z","text":"你这个客观也根本不客观","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce600cee00067b79fd6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d05f42c74d8062ca732","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce600cee00067b79fd6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qb787f2f98c6aba8a1d31","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":408,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:07:35.900Z","text":"司法欺诈 三年来没有一个人揭发","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb787f2f98c6aba8a1d31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q0a559910cc636350c538","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":409,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:07:38.832Z","text":"被告是这么说了，也不等于你做的被告认可啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a559910cc636350c538","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q3f9ca3e89f9160a73a35","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":410,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:07:54.149Z","text":"被告被关起来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a559910cc636350c538","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f9ca3e89f9160a73a35","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a559910cc636350c538","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q2bbb47d6c76584627824","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":411,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:07:59.975Z","text":"只有律师可以联系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bbb47d6c76584627824","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q082dcaa33dfa662246fb","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":412,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:08:05.987Z","text":"所以，你就可以代表被告了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f9ca3e89f9160a73a35","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q082dcaa33dfa662246fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f9ca3e89f9160a73a35","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qc949e1a478ad0b7c2595","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":413,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:08:06.465Z","text":"你咋知道他认不认可","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc949e1a478ad0b7c2595","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q29bdd8a17c472d68cfc9","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":414,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:08:12.122Z","text":"你只是第三方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29bdd8a17c472d68cfc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q9d95dea08aad4fd2438f","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":415,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:08:17.201Z","text":"我没有法律上代表被告","edited":false,"reply_to":"q082dcaa33dfa662246fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d95dea08aad4fd2438f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q082dcaa33dfa662246fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q7744c886dcf6facc56f3","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":416,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:08:39.466Z","text":"对啊，所以你也只是一厢情愿的认为","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d95dea08aad4fd2438f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7744c886dcf6facc56f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d95dea08aad4fd2438f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q82611d8dd4d344e7045e","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":417,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:08:55.431Z","text":"但是当被告律师完全装死 第三方在源源不断的提供法庭上对被告有利证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82611d8dd4d344e7045e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q72d802ca0f72aa6502b9","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":418,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:09:08.098Z","text":"律师还在那里装死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d802ca0f72aa6502b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q012c2dfe3f2bad1ad33d","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":419,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:09:13.212Z","text":"证人也不等于被告律师啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q012c2dfe3f2bad1ad33d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qeeb62de8634831eb4f22","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":420,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:09:17.271Z","text":"这个时候 你根本就不需要律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeb62de8634831eb4f22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q539f47c8dd5851bb5110","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":421,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:09:30.041Z","text":"不等于 但是在履行被告律师的义务","edited":false,"reply_to":"q012c2dfe3f2bad1ad33d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q539f47c8dd5851bb5110","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q012c2dfe3f2bad1ad33d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qc208d9eacc312f16751d","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":422,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:09:51.167Z","text":"如果被告律师履行义务 哪有第三方今天这么干法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc208d9eacc312f16751d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q0ee4b300af08e3423cf3","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":423,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:10:27.635Z","text":"这只是你一厢情愿的认为，郭没说过他不需要律师，螺丝哥也没说过他要履行律师的义务","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeeb62de8634831eb4f22","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ee4b300af08e3423cf3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeb62de8634831eb4f22","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q9cfb75a085467b34de6a","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":424,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:10:48.056Z","text":"郭被关起来了 只能雇佣律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ee4b300af08e3423cf3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfb75a085467b34de6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ee4b300af08e3423cf3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qb90ee40b50fb96aeca78","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":425,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:11:03.697Z","text":"他只有一个发声渠道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb90ee40b50fb96aeca78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q5545b961264b65c3a140","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":426,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:11:10.858Z","text":"如果被告被保释出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5545b961264b65c3a140","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q650214f2ea58fd458010","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":427,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:11:16.577Z","text":"他一定会让螺丝哥当主律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q650214f2ea58fd458010","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qd58a7126f7f39f47e0c8","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":428,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:11:17.467Z","text":"郭被关起来了，所以你现在就一厢情愿的代表他了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9cfb75a085467b34de6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58a7126f7f39f47e0c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfb75a085467b34de6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q14b6c89e6db6dc9c10d8","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":429,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:11:37.155Z","text":"我没有说代表被告","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd58a7126f7f39f47e0c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14b6c89e6db6dc9c10d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58a7126f7f39f47e0c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q555f9aa9c8fe897bd34f","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":430,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:11:51.593Z","text":"我说 我在履行本来是辩方律师的义务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q555f9aa9c8fe897bd34f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qf41ecf42d5598b77e262","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":431,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:11:56.612Z","text":"现在郭认可的律师就是新律师团队","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14b6c89e6db6dc9c10d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf41ecf42d5598b77e262","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14b6c89e6db6dc9c10d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qa0000c3806a541dfdab3","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":432,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:12:07.743Z","text":"至于第三方做了什么，只代表你自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0000c3806a541dfdab3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q513d4228a7c2b59bff28","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":433,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:12:12.997Z","text":"新律师团队对翻案证据视而不见","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf41ecf42d5598b77e262","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q513d4228a7c2b59bff28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf41ecf42d5598b77e262","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q4f785d6c7b8ae095d950","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":434,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:12:24.439Z","text":"第三方源源不断送上翻案证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f785d6c7b8ae095d950","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q4519a7a5d067bcba7ab7","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":435,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:12:29.952Z","text":"如果哪天郭对新律师团队不满意，他会说的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4519a7a5d067bcba7ab7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q79361b0bd5719017f0d3","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":436,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:12:43.415Z","text":"客观事实 就是第三方在律师义务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79361b0bd5719017f0d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qa1ff3943b87775874834","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":437,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:12:54.245Z","text":"虽然第三方没有律师的法律权限","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1ff3943b87775874834","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qb0f1c1ca88aa8fd776d5","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":438,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:12:58.737Z","text":"那也要郭自己认可啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0f1c1ca88aa8fd776d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q779111c85bc89f409678","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":439,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:13:05.406Z","text":"你没听懂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0f1c1ca88aa8fd776d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q779111c85bc89f409678","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0f1c1ca88aa8fd776d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qa26cde30096766170d70","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":440,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:13:18.242Z","text":"不是被告认不认可的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa26cde30096766170d70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q6d5c94739acdc7fd2957","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":441,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:13:31.705Z","text":"客观事实 我们的证据 对老郭有利","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d5c94739acdc7fd2957","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qbef07fad600ce6c04a60","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":442,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:13:33.195Z","text":"我的意思是，你的所有想法都只是你自己认为的，不代表任何其他人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q779111c85bc89f409678","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbef07fad600ce6c04a60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q779111c85bc89f409678","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q695f1fe44448e2cfd999","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":443,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:13:46.347Z","text":"而这些本该是老郭律师干的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q695f1fe44448e2cfd999","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qc40bbe4b5d8fed586c4b","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":444,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:13:58.101Z","text":"老郭律师在拖后腿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc40bbe4b5d8fed586c4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qc186cc0f634eeae11dfd","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":445,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:14:06.415Z","text":"第三方在帮他翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc186cc0f634eeae11dfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qd4a64ad539869d2d8388","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":446,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:14:09.311Z","text":"你这怎么算？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a64ad539869d2d8388","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q0ece348fd87153c28234","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":447,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:14:14.005Z","text":"要律师有何用？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ece348fd87153c28234","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q58bbc70ce6314fb95831","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":448,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:16:04.347Z","text":"你这么认为，你就这么认为好了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58bbc70ce6314fb95831","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q7810c036354f2c72c464","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":449,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:16:30.746Z","text":"只要你不代表其他人，包括郭和螺丝哥还有其他第三方就可以","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7810c036354f2c72c464","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q4d268b846d2561a9474e","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":450,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:16:49.606Z","text":"我只是在说这个现象","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d268b846d2561a9474e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q8aed25960ef7c98fe0e3","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":451,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T04:16:56.881Z","text":"我没有权利代表任何人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aed25960ef7c98fe0e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q56b7a464f8e7e546fca5","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":452,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T04:38:16.657Z","text":"那个公告是属于附带民事诉讼的事情。现在是受害者要介入量刑程序。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85cd6ebefce81103ba42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b7a464f8e7e546fca5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85cd6ebefce81103ba42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q5e90c9481d329431f1ac","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":453,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T04:40:32.443Z","text":"就是量刑程序啊，不是检方发了一个公告说，受害者要做陈述需要联系受害者协调员吗？","edited":false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发了很多邮件 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讨论这个也没啥意义了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28d1a1bbef10ee1465a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q6a7779e3bb2e74b4451e","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":523,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:27:43.125Z","text":"支持不支持又如何","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a7779e3bb2e74b4451e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q92d7fd21e389f158691b","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":524,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:28:29.063Z","text":"100年和50年有何区别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92d7fd21e389f158691b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q22599ada2daee8b3e4a3","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":525,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T05:28:33.146Z","text":"这些受害者陈述，支持者陈述，都是无关紧要的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22599ada2daee8b3e4a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q99fc94ba4edafb06eda5","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":526,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:28:40.324Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22599ada2daee8b3e4a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99fc94ba4edafb06eda5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22599ada2daee8b3e4a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qd24da762fa7dea8a2a09","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":527,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T05:28:51.194Z","text":"现在你第三方无论做什么，都是为自己做的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd24da762fa7dea8a2a09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qcaa50e442ab752e88383","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":528,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:29:05.248Z","text":"我最终也是为了自己出名 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd24da762fa7dea8a2a09","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaa50e442ab752e88383","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd24da762fa7dea8a2a09","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qe9ba345a954fed10bc03","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":529,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:29:18.026Z","text":"如果不重要，法官为什么不让上传？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22599ada2daee8b3e4a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9ba345a954fed10bc03","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22599ada2daee8b3e4a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qd11b3085d0e7a06aa69e","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":530,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:29:33.291Z","text":"他说的是陈述 不是动议","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9ba345a954fed10bc03","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd11b3085d0e7a06aa69e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9ba345a954fed10bc03","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q3538a53e5c71dac2f1ff","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":531,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:30:22.531Z","text":"去哪里说陈述呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd11b3085d0e7a06aa69e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3538a53e5c71dac2f1ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd11b3085d0e7a06aa69e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qa52de9614218dcb4d465","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":532,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:30:26.634Z","text":"自己给法院以受害者身份发信件，陈述案件里的海量程序不正义，被告的犯罪事实有待进一步司法审查，被告应该零惩罚。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa52de9614218dcb4d465","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qf65225a32b0a1dac3226","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":533,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:30:44.551Z","text":"检方和辩方律师都可以 但我觉得 这个什么狗屁陈述 完全不重要了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3538a53e5c71dac2f1ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf65225a32b0a1dac3226","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3538a53e5c71dac2f1ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q598bed666125974df759","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":534,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:31:38.555Z","text":"有模板吗？有窗口期吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf65225a32b0a1dac3226","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q598bed666125974df759","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf65225a32b0a1dac3226","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qf1056aadcbede19b7f00","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":535,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:31:44.120Z","text":"这些发过去，会自动知会到被告，当然发送的同时抄送过去更好，也是推荐做法。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1056aadcbede19b7f00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q6790afa17b8ec468f065","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":536,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:31:52.518Z","text":"就有一个网站是受害者陈述","edited":false,"reply_to":"q598bed666125974df759","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6790afa17b8ec468f065","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q598bed666125974df759","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q2aa41f902436a3be4712","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":537,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:32:01.103Z","text":"我本来想把733写进去的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa41f902436a3be4712","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q63e9880dfb4c9a4d4cbd","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":538,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:32:10.125Z","text":"后来想想算了 什么狗屁陈述 毫无意义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63e9880dfb4c9a4d4cbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q447aa2876f092fdeb366","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":539,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:32:33.335Z","text":"写进去呀。增加影响力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2aa41f902436a3be4712","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q447aa2876f092fdeb366","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa41f902436a3be4712","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qb4934ccfc058e23dbc3e","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":540,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:33:44.268Z","text":"CVRA权利简述您的地位：作为G-series投资者，您是“crime victim”（诈骗受害者），有权在量刑程序中表达观点，包括支持被告减轻量刑（e.g., “被告无辜，检方陷害加重了我们的损失”）。\n权限：CVRA允许受害者在“sentencing or any parole proceeding”被听取，不限反对——支持性陈述合法（判例如United States v. Madoff, S.D.N.Y. 2009，受害者提交支持被告的声明影响量刑）。\n\n操作步骤：如何提交支持性陈述准备陈述：写简短声明（1-3页），用英文（或中英双语，附翻译）。焦点：您的受害者身份、支持被告减轻量刑的理由（e.g., “检方陷害被告，演员共谋加重了我们投资者的损失；减轻量刑能让真相浮出”）。签名/日期。\n提交方式：直接向法院：通过Pro Se Intake Unit email（ProSe@nysd.uscourts.gov）或邮寄（500 Pearl St., NY 10007），标题“Victim Impact Statement in Support of Leniency for Defendant Ho Wan Kwok in Related Proceeding for Yvette Wang (Case No. 1:23-cr-00118-AT)”。\n抄送：检方/辩方律师（从docket获取email），王雁平辩护律师（提供支持）。\n时间：听证前至少7-14天提交（§ 3771(a)(2)通知权），或程序中口头发言（请求remote via Zoom，国际pro se友好）。\n\n强制法院听取：如果不回应，提交“Motion to Enforce Victims' Rights under CVRA § 3771(d)(5)”，要求“forthwith hearing”。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q598bed666125974df759","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4934ccfc058e23dbc3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q598bed666125974df759","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q3ac4cb57956be8ed882f","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":541,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:34:03.948Z","text":"这个群好象没推荐这个网站。我想看看。多少发点声吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6790afa17b8ec468f065","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ac4cb57956be8ed882f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6790afa17b8ec468f065","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qe57c549ebec20fee921a","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":542,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:34:31.366Z","text":"支持性陈述模板（英文，直接复制用，填个人信息）Subject: Victim Impact Statement in Support of Leniency for Defendant Ho Wan Kwok at SentencingDear Judge Analisa Torres,I am [Your Full Name], a victim of the alleged fraud in this case as an investor in the G-series entities. As a crime victim under 18 U.S.C. § 3771(a)(4), I respectfully submit this statement for the sentencing of defendant Ho Wan Kwok, urging significant leniency.My investment in the G-series was destroyed not by Mr. Kwok, but by the Government's malicious overreach: unlawful seizure of assets by the bankruptcy trustee Luc A. Despins (Bankr. Dkt. 523, lacking due process), selective evidence manipulation to deny bail (Dkt. 733, Attachment A), and refusal to execute the forfeiture order (Dkt. 750), allowing over $60 million to be dissipated (Dkt. 724; Bankr. Dkt. 4691). This pattern of misconduct—evidentiary butchery and prosecutorial defiance—has trapped Mr. Kwok in a frame-up, exacerbating our losses as investors while the true perpetrators continue unchecked.Leniency for Mr. Kwok is essential for justice: his freedom could expose the fraud on the court, recover our stolen funds, and restore market order. Harsh sentencing would only perpetuate the injustice, burying the truth and our restitution hopes. I request the Court consider this and allow me to speak at the hearing (remote participation due to international location).Respectfully,\n[Your Full Name]\n[Your Address/Country]\n[Phone/Email]\n[Date]\n/s/ [Your Full Name]","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4934ccfc058e23dbc3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57c549ebec20fee921a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4934ccfc058e23dbc3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qd36ed4033d8888461741","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":543,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:36:59.630Z","text":"写得很好呀。系统上有人看得到吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe57c549ebec20fee921a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd36ed4033d8888461741","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57c549ebec20fee921a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qfb2af4ad7ca9a02dd199","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":544,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:37:29.791Z","text":"法官，被告，可以看到。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd36ed4033d8888461741","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb2af4ad7ca9a02dd199","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd36ed4033d8888461741","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q4377ad4ddcf49e3ac98b","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":545,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:37:53.008Z","text":"其它人看不到吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4377ad4ddcf49e3ac98b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qd8bffd0b4a484cadf1c7","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":546,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:38:22.036Z","text":"有截止日期吗？量刑前？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8bffd0b4a484cadf1c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qdd293a0f4f687c911df8","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":547,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:39:33.851Z","text":"这跟写自诉不就差不多吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd293a0f4f687c911df8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qca3788f6a0258ca82af4","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":548,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:40:42.621Z","text":"没有义务上传，只是法官有义务听取。鉴于本案法官的情况，最大的作用就是在上诉时用得上，大量的“受害者”都在因为案件的程序不正义为被告请求减刑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb2af4ad7ca9a02dd199","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca3788f6a0258ca82af4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb2af4ad7ca9a02dd199","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qe7a8e67b0a760163a476","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":549,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:42:21.334Z","text":"最好量刑前30天之前，等这个民事附带程序结束后比较好，陪审团裁定有罪后就可以。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8bffd0b4a484cadf1c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7a8e67b0a760163a476","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8bffd0b4a484cadf1c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q2fdd2ed3814a1eae9315","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":550,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:42:34.276Z","text":"这个东西我建议不用写了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe57c549ebec20fee921a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fdd2ed3814a1eae9315","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57c549ebec20fee921a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qaff5e2808c8988152b07","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":551,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:42:45.211Z","text":"现在都去二巡了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaff5e2808c8988152b07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qf5678eaed10d7cac865e","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":552,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:42:49.002Z","text":"司法欺诈都出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5678eaed10d7cac865e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q9d1a7410ec934dda014c","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":553,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:42:53.039Z","text":"这些东西太隔靴搔痒","edited":false,"reply_to":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就最好去跟检方写 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我对那些傻律师完全不想理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa83678a0281d4d9f25d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qfdbea54091245fa68574","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":566,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:49:09.864Z","text":"你写的东西跟律师没有关系吧？收件人有他们吗？也是用pdf文件上传吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa83678a0281d4d9f25d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdbea54091245fa68574","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa83678a0281d4d9f25d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q37888b760999feb64c02","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":567,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:49:20.023Z","text":"我写的啥东西？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdbea54091245fa68574","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37888b760999feb64c02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdbea54091245fa68574","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qff69fac85f2aeb7d3475","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":568,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:49:32.791Z","text":"我的反对他们的动议 是发给他们了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff69fac85f2aeb7d3475","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q72bf53e182abf63f1f9c","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":569,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:49:49.171Z","text":"就是刚才说的受害者陈述。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72bf53e182abf63f1f9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q8eee968de63f2bafb01f","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":570,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:49:54.966Z","text":"我没写","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eee968de63f2bafb01f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qaf7594b13459cce03bfc","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":571,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:50:06.447Z","text":"我只是把动议发给了管受害者陈述的那个windy","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf7594b13459cce03bfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qc68e61f7fb282fabe360","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":572,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:50:13.233Z","text":"我是说自己写给法院。我们打的这些基础，最终还是需要被告律师，换律师或者被告自行辩护提供直接可用素材。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc68e61f7fb282fabe360","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q2985b22510ae6fdf1125","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":573,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:50:17.049Z","text":"结果发第二次的时候发现人家要么拉黑我了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2985b22510ae6fdf1125","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q44aeab3234e42e2c71b1","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":574,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:50:20.450Z","text":"要么她辞职了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44aeab3234e42e2c71b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q190e945fa97f37c34a27","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":575,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:50:56.142Z","text":"我反正完全不指望老郭律师什么良心发现什么什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc68e61f7fb282fabe360","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q190e945fa97f37c34a27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc68e61f7fb282fabe360","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q804f5bd7734a9cf24c3b","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":576,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:50:59.638Z","text":"都是幻想","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q804f5bd7734a9cf24c3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q80d589e26d521a2e8d53","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":577,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:51:06.982Z","text":"这帮人能听得懂的只有拳头","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80d589e26d521a2e8d53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qfb590073b2f27dcc951c","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":578,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:51:32.954Z","text":"往死里整才行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb590073b2f27dcc951c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qbf4948bfca4ad51582a8","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":579,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:52:23.912Z","text":"我认为主要是它们惹不起，换律师也可能依然可能是这样。最后可能真得被告自行辩护。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q190e945fa97f37c34a27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf4948bfca4ad51582a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q190e945fa97f37c34a27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q837ba84d0e70f6a90dd7","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":580,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T05:52:49.524Z","text":"如果你已经发了第三方动议，这些陈述什么的，真的是无关紧要","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf65225a32b0a1dac3226","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q837ba84d0e70f6a90dd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf65225a32b0a1dac3226","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q75e51cbbbe2f46c51b04","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":581,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-19T05:53:21.222Z","text":"如果你不能或者不敢发动议，可以写写陈述什么的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75e51cbbbe2f46c51b04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qa21d5cdff9e064f4ca63","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":582,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:54:06.372Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q837ba84d0e70f6a90dd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa21d5cdff9e064f4ca63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q837ba84d0e70f6a90dd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q958e860ea910756bf232","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":583,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-19T05:54:13.565Z","text":"的确，这些人迫害一个无辜的时候眼都不眨一下，而且用成千上万人的力量来对付一个弱者。我们也没必要跟他们客气。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q958e860ea910756bf232","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q0584ffc9e98a5519c8c6","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":584,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-19T05:54:20.177Z","text":"我还是会再发一封。本来没打算介入量刑，但它们硬是把人逼到必须推翻案件的地步。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0584ffc9e98a5519c8c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q50f380bf56a985a02bb3","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":585,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:54:25.287Z","text":"自行辩护早翻案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf4948bfca4ad51582a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50f380bf56a985a02bb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf4948bfca4ad51582a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q6f8b9ac8e00f843e9780","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":586,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:54:51.587Z","text":"老郭就是死在相信律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8b9ac8e00f843e9780","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q96f47f14f701029acc17","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":587,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:55:25.322Z","text":"这个案件就把美国司法诉讼流程全部打爆了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96f47f14f701029acc17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q24b0e4aa70f1baba06b1","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":588,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:55:33.873Z","text":"律师也不灵","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24b0e4aa70f1baba06b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q1fd2cafe15649648f70b","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":589,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:55:42.060Z","text":"检方欺诈法庭 法官镇压受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fd2cafe15649648f70b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qcd91184ca1b12c225f94","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":590,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T05:56:02.899Z","text":"第三方变成名侦探柯南","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd91184ca1b12c225f94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q88aa580de1c377116677","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":591,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2025-10-19T05:59:57.711Z","text":"他几次申请保释，应该是想先出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f8b9ac8e00f843e9780","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88aa580de1c377116677","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8b9ac8e00f843e9780","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q1541940e2e9a852816f0","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":592,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-19T07:04:42.242Z","text":"啊，我的信就是寄给他收。不会收不到吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9f6d13280e89f145881","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1541940e2e9a852816f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9f6d13280e89f145881","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q617d20b2a78d885952a9","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":593,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T07:05:05.190Z","text":"wendy？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1541940e2e9a852816f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q617d20b2a78d885952a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1541940e2e9a852816f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q57924faada31da1bd2a9","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":594,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T07:05:11.393Z","text":"还是ryan","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57924faada31da1bd2a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qb65baf7f46e9ea5181ec","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":595,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-19T07:05:23.021Z","text":"Ryan","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb65baf7f46e9ea5181ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q674922e13bb16a728d43","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":596,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-19T07:30:10.965Z","text":"如果是他们说的郭自己放弃传唤证人为什么又在700里提出没有传唤Luc？这不是自相矛盾吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q232d6c1300e52d4a7d60","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674922e13bb16a728d43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"qca29830d0d47b4f269de","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":597,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-19T07:32:40.216Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q674922e13bb16a728d43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca29830d0d47b4f269de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674922e13bb16a728d43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q0a2d967116ee3917a5da","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":598,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-19T07:35:57.104Z","text":"是在哪个文件里？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a08cc8a3144a3606e16","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a2d967116ee3917a5da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a08cc8a3144a3606e16","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q1e93c40e6e94e49f1258","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":599,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-19T07:37:48.797Z","text":"郭承认猎狐，托雷斯又不让提中共，这不是死局吗？不明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a93204143bf2b59370a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e93c40e6e94e49f1258","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a93204143bf2b59370a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"},{"id":"q21e27474d9931d93e808","batch_id":"batch-000048","seq":600,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-19T07:55:46.962Z","text":"这案子暴露出的另一个问题就是辩方不作为，作为利益相关的第三方对辩方毫无影响力，或者说，必须提高第三方作为非当事人在庭上话语权和影响力","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe865695c4dbcd6cf24e6","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21e27474d9931d93e808","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000048"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000047","next_batch_id":"batch-000049"}