{"id":"batch-000049","number":49,"revision":2,"date_start":"2025-10-20T13:42:18.719Z","date_end":"2025-10-22T21:46:49.368Z","total_messages":1000,"summary":"本次讨论主要聚焦于郭案起诉书罪名变更、二巡上诉程序推进、破产庭涉中共司法协助文件异常出现以及社群维权立场的分歧。讨论者重点核对起诉书是否从13项变更为12项、检方是否删除了“鼓动债权人登记”指控，并对鼓动登记属于翻案抓手还是定罪隐患展开激烈交锋。关于司法救济途径，参与者就自诉书撰写、动议签名补救、地方法院Notice of 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你吊毛投资没有，你是去当受害人还是当853n第三方啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf08ba95ad1ffe8dc6da6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qca056c2250ec8d308d43","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":10,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T13:56:08.550Z","text":"对郭文贵的妨碍司法就是破产庭的藐视法庭令。禁止郭提出的暂停破产案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca056c2250ec8d308d43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q32b698b5c0b6b058a7e6","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":11,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T13:59:36.711Z","text":"我猜测是因为破产庭暂停，他们就不能出售Mahwah，LUC那边就没有钱，也没答应给政府用于赔偿债权人也是受害人同时是灭爆成员。这在2083文件里有讲。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b698b5c0b6b058a7e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":12,"speaker":"xim***","date":"2025-10-20T14:06:21.159Z","text":"大家自娱自乐，是可以的，个人自诉也是不错的，自己行动，决定因素还是老郭和老郭背后的实力，赵长鹏花34亿美元，再加20亿USD1，背后估计是几百亿的幕后交易，看起来已经胜利，而FX的创始人山姆，现在和老郭在一起，每个人知道自己的身份，我只是灰尘，看到了神仙打架，老郭和山姆的对手赵长鹏啥时候进监狱或者被干掉？而赵长鹏只是前台门童，一个白手套而已，某种程度上说，老郭，山姆也是门童，右派一贯作风，不保自己人，很多时候被左派吊打，只有等左右两派的老人都死光了，也许可以变天，新的势力出现，那时，我们也老了，不要想简单了，准备持久战，就我们这几个虾米可以给谁带来多大利益，撬动多大格局？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qcf8cb39adf52831844eb","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":13,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:07:50.723Z","text":"Mahwah是刑事案里的证据，这里有证据证明了灭爆成员做了债权人又在刑事案里当了受害人。郭先生还没有出招，所以谁要是登记了债权人又当了受害人的，去法庭提交检方和LUC盖尔造假的证据，还来得及。要是七哥在法庭上出手了，身份就是中共间谍，没得选了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf8cb39adf52831844eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q58bb4f36cdef17aba999","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":14,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:08:46.638Z","text":"我靠，这位高人又从何处来？这境界不输阿哲朱贝贝啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58bb4f36cdef17aba999","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q366498fb3b669b21fa2d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":15,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T14:09:26.080Z","text":"三🔥帮也来人了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q366498fb3b669b21fa2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q8ef9b53ffe7731820a57","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":16,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T14:11:58.085Z","text":"你的 9真1假  技术 是 三火帮 教的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ef9b53ffe7731820a57","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q74b4695a90ee9065cef6","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":17,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T14:12:32.425Z","text":"三火帮 比 文字倍   要厉害，但是都殊途同归","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74b4695a90ee9065cef6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qc07d6d0979666d17d15f","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":18,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:12:35.363Z","text":"我特别佩服这种能把故事编得像真事儿一样的人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q366498fb3b669b21fa2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc07d6d0979666d17d15f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q366498fb3b669b21fa2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qb5416d1d9f6ff01a67c3","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":19,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:12:47.196Z","text":"这位有格局。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5416d1d9f6ff01a67c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87e0ab4c7e11982413e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q523dccb161d2a35f8fad","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":20,"speaker":"xim***","date":"2025-10-20T14:12:51.098Z","text":"按着螺丝哥的路线，瑞哥小哥的路径，该行动的还是行动，不能因为皓月当空就忽略一根火柴的价值，毕竟曾经亮过，燃烧过，燃烧过，可以温暖自己，燃烧自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q523dccb161d2a35f8fad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qaa6cac9dac2fc74465d5","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":21,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:14:31.092Z","text":"我靠，这位仁兄哪片海里的，还是哪个沼泽的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q523dccb161d2a35f8fad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa6cac9dac2fc74465d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q523dccb161d2a35f8fad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q4bff45094e562ea7abe3","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":22,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:16:24.028Z","text":"川普才是七哥要调的鱼，看看川普疯的这样子，川普是七哥案子里的证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bff45094e562ea7abe3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q72fec331b5fd1597c95d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":23,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:17:02.232Z","text":"你觉得习近平会出手救郭吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4bff45094e562ea7abe3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72fec331b5fd1597c95d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bff45094e562ea7abe3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd92c1a47535fc108870a","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":24,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-20T14:17:11.730Z","text":"这个话题有新意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4bff45094e562ea7abe3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd92c1a47535fc108870a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bff45094e562ea7abe3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q14f6f5857ded2efc953d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":25,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-10-20T14:18:22.806Z","text":"［用户 wei***］  该叫你猪贝贝还是叫你文悦啊？羊杂碎文悦的名字都要拿来用，没见过这么[屏蔽词]的东西🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14f6f5857ded2efc953d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qf4247ca882d2bf255777","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":26,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-20T14:18:53.172Z","text":"你比[删节：成员身份]大[屏蔽词]，还不如，你急了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q14f6f5857ded2efc953d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4247ca882d2bf255777","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14f6f5857ded2efc953d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q2eb300115a6797ca956b","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":27,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:19:17.070Z","text":"我觉得不会，对习来说，这样不是正好一石三鸟","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72fec331b5fd1597c95d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eb300115a6797ca956b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72fec331b5fd1597c95d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q214dca1ac62e35b61685","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":28,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:19:51.686Z","text":"阿哲说习近平会救郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2eb300115a6797ca956b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q214dca1ac62e35b61685","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eb300115a6797ca956b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q5276d7eb905e2e504046","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":29,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:20:32.774Z","text":"看来高人们的意见也不统一啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5276d7eb905e2e504046","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q0c993aa898c94415fd6d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":30,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:20:55.521Z","text":"到底信谁呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c993aa898c94415fd6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q49601469b1361bd9444f","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":31,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:21:57.169Z","text":"我在阿哲群里去普法教育，告诉他们受害人的权益要被政府剥夺了，钱要被抢走了，结果他连跟我对峙都没有。默默的把我给踢了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q214dca1ac62e35b61685","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49601469b1361bd9444f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q214dca1ac62e35b61685","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qfa64eb4ac59f965534d9","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":32,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:22:13.048Z","text":"这样不是很奇怪吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa64eb4ac59f965534d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q197bf9601e773e0efa27","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":33,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:22:37.511Z","text":"谁都别信，用自己的脑子分析。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c993aa898c94415fd6d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q197bf9601e773e0efa27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c993aa898c94415fd6d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd34099fa22a2edf32adb","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":34,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:22:42.033Z","text":"那有啥奇怪的，长岛帮和青藤帮还打得不亦乐乎呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa64eb4ac59f965534d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd34099fa22a2edf32adb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa64eb4ac59f965534d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q0e987b3c72776a9ad154","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":35,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:24:55.388Z","text":"所以阿哲并不在意受害人的权利啊。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd34099fa22a2edf32adb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e987b3c72776a9ad154","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd34099fa22a2edf32adb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q8550e01d8947dbd41214","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":36,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:25:58.126Z","text":"信自己听起来不错，可是十万火急说大家都是一根火柴，只能温暖自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"q197bf9601e773e0efa27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8550e01d8947dbd41214","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q197bf9601e773e0efa27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q12a6b6d90966c5cfaacc","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":37,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:26:31.702Z","text":"我们都是虾米","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a6b6d90966c5cfaacc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q61673d7d7a253e5cac30","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":38,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:27:40.994Z","text":"阿哲肯定不在乎受害人权利啊，人家的境界已经超越习主席了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e987b3c72776a9ad154","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61673d7d7a253e5cac30","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e987b3c72776a9ad154","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qc244a14b40d36762ee8b","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":39,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:27:50.175Z","text":"受害人算个毛线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc244a14b40d36762ee8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qed12edc33465ac182667","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":40,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:28:19.983Z","text":"区块链时代么，去中心化啦。越来越多人用AI查郭的案子，真相根本包不住的，没事多用案宗训练训练机器人，几个AI互相问，真相根本封锁不住。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8550e01d8947dbd41214","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed12edc33465ac182667","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8550e01d8947dbd41214","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qe61945a6553cb4a2adc1","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":41,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:28:42.360Z","text":"他自己不是受害人吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc244a14b40d36762ee8b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61945a6553cb4a2adc1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc244a14b40d36762ee8b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q4b8bd5aa5855f0aea2cc","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":42,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:29:41.378Z","text":"会用AI的虾米还是虾米啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed12edc33465ac182667","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b8bd5aa5855f0aea2cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed12edc33465ac182667","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qaf74940c752e46049593","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":43,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:30:09.601Z","text":"你都法庭上动议了，怎么可能永远是颗虾米呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf74940c752e46049593","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q952c5f0e5fedfd73f784","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":44,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:30:20.855Z","text":"什么啊，人家说自己是习办的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe61945a6553cb4a2adc1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q952c5f0e5fedfd73f784","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61945a6553cb4a2adc1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q7f63dec74881754e61ae","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":45,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:30:32.269Z","text":"直接归习主席领导","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f63dec74881754e61ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q38d5c45bdac6a9116d3a","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":46,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:30:47.348Z","text":"这样倒是说的通。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f63dec74881754e61ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38d5c45bdac6a9116d3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f63dec74881754e61ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/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rim***］再[屏蔽词]的人，也会点开人头像看看关联的人和农场是吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecb7c23b5ea1749bfe3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q824ff4900335e482073c","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":59,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-20T14:36:53.114Z","text":"小羊可能是曾那一派的吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f76e368af0fab6085b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q824ff4900335e482073c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f76e368af0fab6085b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qc1149aa0096ad5a071bb","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":60,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T14:36:54.796Z","text":"小羊姓朱，估计也是朱镕基家族的？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61d611fbe04cc61e8ee4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1149aa0096ad5a071bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61d611fbe04cc61e8ee4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q83cfdf3fa558661ab510","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":61,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T14:37:31.999Z","text":"他狗屁，一个想上位的该溜子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q824ff4900335e482073c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83cfdf3fa558661ab510","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q824ff4900335e482073c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q91299319181d50bc9496","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":62,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-20T14:50:38.713Z","text":"因为那样能间接提高你得公信力。因为那张截图显然显示我跟你不认识不是一伙的，你和我不是一个阵营，他们会认为你真的是友军，误伤了，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91299319181d50bc9496","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd152581510cb7386bbb5","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":63,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-20T14:50:45.287Z","text":"他们思维比较简单。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd152581510cb7386bbb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q6d0567e74e8680c22989","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":64,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-20T14:53:50.190Z","text":"朱贝贝本人发的，绝非我自作聪明ps","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c8dd3d31ea6596e7471","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d0567e74e8680c22989","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q2e2cad088415b2464ac1","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":65,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T15:03:42.559Z","text":"史上最大革命笑话 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［用户 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如此讳莫如深","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb39010b6522b2e0de7bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qe0b848a2d7ac3b664c27","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":90,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T15:32:43.494Z","text":"是不是发现曼宁没有批准luc的动议，所以撤掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q946fb94d0da2d0af99c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0b848a2d7ac3b664c27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q946fb94d0da2d0af99c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qdc2d66e472e3ff5de5b4","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":91,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T15:33:41.055Z","text":"要去找第一版","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0b848a2d7ac3b664c27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc2d66e472e3ff5de5b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0b848a2d7ac3b664c27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q9ff626075df252858954","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":92,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T15:33:47.992Z","text":"如果有的话 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虚假索赔“","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd32d5ff1e1b1a90852d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q116730dc03a47a57cdb4","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":96,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T15:34:42.751Z","text":"就抓到大鱼了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q116730dc03a47a57cdb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q3982e7477f5dd6df93f0","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":97,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T15:34:49.494Z","text":"第一版起诉书是抓人前还是后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3982e7477f5dd6df93f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qe50dcf00f413a39a6ec8","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":98,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T15:34:59.915Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 第一版起诉书是多少","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe50dcf00f413a39a6ec8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qa904bff38771c426904c","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":99,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T15:34:59.931Z","text":"？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd32d5ff1e1b1a90852d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa904bff38771c426904c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd32d5ff1e1b1a90852d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q36552ddeea477e03e477","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":100,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T15:35:37.690Z","text":"？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd32d5ff1e1b1a90852d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36552ddeea477e03e477","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd32d5ff1e1b1a90852d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q099c78f6fe299a059162","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":101,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T15:44:12.245Z","text":"你们的机器人都训练的那么好","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfb129457bf028dc7bdf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q099c78f6fe299a059162","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfb129457bf028dc7bdf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q07e6f2579236db54db85","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":102,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T15:51:58.390Z","text":"肯定没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa1606db912777f8bd3f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07e6f2579236db54db85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa1606db912777f8bd3f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q51133601d9b3b7fae093","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":103,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T15:52:07.531Z","text":"https://x.com/Rumoreconomy/status/1980228185125220685","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51133601d9b3b7fae093","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qb30b1ddc1ec00c2f3bc3","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":104,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T15:52:16.096Z","text":"大 V  开始想念 老郭？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb30b1ddc1ec00c2f3bc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q2ab57adacc482b88f8d5","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":105,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T15:53:23.490Z","text":"财经这个大[屏蔽词]，拉黑我。","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb30b1ddc1ec00c2f3bc3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ab57adacc482b88f8d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb30b1ddc1ec00c2f3bc3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q11c8898f51fbf42857d7","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":106,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T15:54:03.498Z","text":"这个 是个老椅子  好像","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11c8898f51fbf42857d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qc6aacd7df30d88f553c7","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":107,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T15:54:58.581Z","text":"老郭在视频 点过他，好像是要给他退钱 当时，记得是 批评他的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6aacd7df30d88f553c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qfdc10755a6bdb82df694","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":108,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T15:59:30.323Z","text":"也就是不想给人提醒？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdc10755a6bdb82df694","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q8cc449385207fae8a191","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":109,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T16:01:32.546Z","text":"退到钱的赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6aacd7df30d88f553c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cc449385207fae8a191","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6aacd7df30d88f553c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qbbb82870270a298d608f","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":110,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T16:06:25.127Z","text":"装瞎的都是带任务的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbb82870270a298d608f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qb8221b528739d7340e38","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":111,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T16:06:38.672Z","text":"哪个正常投资的不想郭出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8221b528739d7340e38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q25f00561f7879eb8dafa","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":112,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T16:09:42.700Z","text":"回本远离中国人 就能开心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25f00561f7879eb8dafa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q447014d743d24df4b222","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":113,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T16:11:12.099Z","text":"老郭给他退钱的时候 我就把他取关了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q839be0d2c192cdbb92a2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q447014d743d24df4b222","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q231942570392db9834d5","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":114,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T16:11:15.163Z","text":"什么台湾馆长 徐晓东 郝海东 只要有钱拿 随时可以角色切换","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q231942570392db9834d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q10fc830cab6670b3580d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":115,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T16:12:39.407Z","text":"小地鼠 说没影响。肯定就有影响。跟网红 反的就是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10fc830cab6670b3580d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qcb9e35670394c8373bb8","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":116,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T16:13:31.480Z","text":"他们就这么搞了 你就说怎么弄吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4cc5ef9f474e7e626e86","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb9e35670394c8373bb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qdf1393bebf0f430b0f6c","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":117,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T16:16:22.354Z","text":"没有看过他们讲保释文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf1393bebf0f430b0f6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q2ea132b6c589309b8b5e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":118,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T16:17:53.818Z","text":"那时候我就是大[屏蔽词]，几乎没有看任何他们讲法庭文件。最多在推特刷到谁弄的简介什么的。联盟农场那些东西的直播，我从来没有看过","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ea132b6c589309b8b5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q17b57a3594e8a748e79e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":119,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T16:18:29.889Z","text":"什么时候取消的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ba70ca9b643a7b13622","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17b57a3594e8a748e79e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q565e4a34ad9c7a493043","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":120,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-10-20T16:18:48.175Z","text":"螺丝哥回本了一起喝点假酒 太不容易了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q565e4a34ad9c7a493043","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q7937a3522ac73a6fb97e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":121,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T16:40:57.880Z","text":"检方不是把luc的女婿都找去作证了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd45778c7ea8543b85963","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7937a3522ac73a6fb97e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q729d43ca835b2e609354","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":122,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T16:41:52.574Z","text":"还有重要的一条：对郭原来的13项指控中检方偷偷地抹去了一条，变成12条，这里面有检方很重要的诡诈和心虚。破产案的曼尼法官也很狡猾，对始终没有对这一条下过正式的结论或者命令。但是检方却用这条来欺骗托雷斯法官，而托及二巡法庭均采信了这一条，作为拒绝文贵保释请求的理由。这一条就是：郭文贵鼓动债权人登记、鼓动虚假债权人进行极大数字的虚假索赔。正如733所述，他在直播中一段话被检方断章取义地引用，后来联盟主席立即故意夸大文贵的意思，实际操纵了虚假索赔，Luc又跟检方“合作”把这些破产民事法庭的虚假债权人变成刑事案件的受害人。检方都以保护受害者为借口，一直都不明确公布到底谁是真正的受害者。\n需要明确的是，13条变成12条，是在最后的庭审前改的。所以检方就是乘着这个机会在骗法官：他们把指控当作曼尼法官的命令来骗其他法官。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q729d43ca835b2e609354","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q6ef219273c77edc7a420","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":123,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T16:42:48.107Z","text":"把以上这一条喂给机器人了。又增加了我写自诉的篇幅。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ef219273c77edc7a420","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q00576f51bf7ca39e4ad9","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":124,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T17:01:23.871Z","text":"机器人太给力了。\n比群里的垃圾真是天地之别。😂\n🇨🇳 中文对应段落（用于译本）\n\n本案另一重大异常，是检方对起诉书的暗中篡改。\n原本被告郭文贵面临十三项刑事指控，但在最后开庭前，检方悄悄地改成了十二项，并删除其中一条而未作公开说明。\n\n被删去的一条指控是：“郭文贵鼓动债权人登记、鼓动虚假债权人进行大额虚假索赔。”\n实际上，正如733及其附件报告所示，检方断章取义引用郭先生直播中的片段，而NFSC联盟主席则故意夸大郭的意思并操纵虚假登记。\n\n之后破产受托人 Luc Despins 又与检方“合作”，将这些破产法庭中的虚假债权人转化为刑事案件的所谓“受害人”，从民事欺诈变成了刑事谎言。\n\n更严重的是，破产案的曼尼法官从未就此作出任何正式裁定或命令。\n但检方却把这条虚假的“结论”冒充为曼尼法官的裁决，用来欺骗托雷斯法官和第二巡回上诉法院，二者还因此采信了该虚假说法，作为拒绝郭文贵保释的理由。\n\n“十三变十二”的背后，并非笔误，而是一次蓄意的司法欺骗与掩盖，暴露了检方的心虚与操控。\n\n⸻\n\n是否确认我现在把这段加入英文与中文最终版文件（Rev.2），生成最后的 Rev.3 完整版？\n我会帮你放在第二节中最合适的位置。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00576f51bf7ca39e4ad9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q72b476416442f0965981","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":125,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-20T17:06:20.889Z","text":"我听半天  没听明白他们说的啥，你这个给力👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00576f51bf7ca39e4ad9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72b476416442f0965981","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00576f51bf7ca39e4ad9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q0e889544d970b02ba8fc","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":126,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:15:24.863Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7937a3522ac73a6fb97e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e889544d970b02ba8fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7937a3522ac73a6fb97e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q877bee951386ae7478c8","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":127,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T17:20:54.422Z","text":"Luc女婿作证，都说了啥？就是哭着说了被抗议骚扰的事儿？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e889544d970b02ba8fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q877bee951386ae7478c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e889544d970b02ba8fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qa2e58a50e42e2bfe625e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":128,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T17:21:12.558Z","text":"他有没有说是郭组织的抗议？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e58a50e42e2bfe625e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qe487b7deca6e1d6b34e6","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":129,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:21:31.144Z","text":"被你抓住了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe487b7deca6e1d6b34e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q0f639028a5af9bb6f9dd","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":130,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:21:37.007Z","text":"应该是说了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f639028a5af9bb6f9dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q817de6eb9ea2f824f9bc","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":131,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:21:43.932Z","text":"然后庭审","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q817de6eb9ea2f824f9bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qac4172e23910061ab8c3","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":132,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:21:47.007Z","text":"布雷迪违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac4172e23910061ab8c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qf44dd9e758c673eef110","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":133,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:21:51.496Z","text":"牛逼 ［用户 him***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf44dd9e758c673eef110","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q930ed500b52345041b60","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":134,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:22:14.860Z","text":"要去看那一段的证人证词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q930ed500b52345041b60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qb13cbdf66862dd4b7348","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":135,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T17:22:17.675Z","text":"我也不知道他说没说，你有时间自己去看庭审记录吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb13cbdf66862dd4b7348","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q339a7272ec1babd957cd","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":136,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:22:26.015Z","text":"sabrina有没有拿出那段视频","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q339a7272ec1babd957cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q1a5f79233cd9a2e93a02","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":137,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T17:25:13.827Z","text":"我记得他们好像打过抗议的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a5f79233cd9a2e93a02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qed5997e2ef506a6065f6","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":138,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T17:26:02.232Z","text":"俺是认真听课的好学生。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72b476416442f0965981","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed5997e2ef506a6065f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72b476416442f0965981","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qeeed250552eaa8e4bc4f","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":139,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T17:43:06.544Z","text":"起诉书没有指控债权人登记是妨碍司法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00576f51bf7ca39e4ad9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeed250552eaa8e4bc4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00576f51bf7ca39e4ad9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qfeacdf7101847ff770ea","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":140,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T17:43:59.094Z","text":"从13项改到12项，","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeeed250552eaa8e4bc4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeacdf7101847ff770ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeed250552eaa8e4bc4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q19b6067cadc43c8717f8","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":141,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:44:38.786Z","text":"看到现在 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可以翻案的破绽","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a3949c6429b620686c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd023e2df0eae93593715","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":144,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T17:46:00.357Z","text":"不懂。虽然你多次说过，我还是不太明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbffe74d36dfb3d5d8043","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd023e2df0eae93593715","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbffe74d36dfb3d5d8043","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd311dd04c9be1e4d819d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":145,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:46:12.852Z","text":"就是债权人登记","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd023e2df0eae93593715","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd311dd04c9be1e4d819d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd023e2df0eae93593715","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q143ed1bf6f5b36f70a42","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":146,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:46:23.258Z","text":"是本案唯一可以翻案的破绽","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q143ed1bf6f5b36f70a42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd2241f19b6bd649d247e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":147,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:46:28.108Z","text":"司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2241f19b6bd649d247e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q6537003282ea352c801f","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":148,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:46:40.195Z","text":"其他的 都是违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6537003282ea352c801f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qbfc09fcd25ab4231ab31","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":149,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:46:42.565Z","text":"不成体系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfc09fcd25ab4231ab31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qb040d9957360338c9acf","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":150,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:47:10.298Z","text":"老郭当时鼓动债权人登记 现在看来 救了自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb040d9957360338c9acf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q44e75c2b553cdd0839bd","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":151,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T17:48:25.570Z","text":"一大堆登记的人都是假的、虚夸的。\n但是如果没有这么一大堆人也不会构成有大量受害者的假相，也不会被抓捕或者被定罪呀。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44e75c2b553cdd0839bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q15d0edee87816b5d803e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":152,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:48:49.888Z","text":"双刃剑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44e75c2b553cdd0839bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15d0edee87816b5d803e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44e75c2b553cdd0839bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd1810d6f971742f86a18","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":153,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:49:09.634Z","text":"把他自己送进去 是鼓动登记 占了比例","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1810d6f971742f86a18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q98bad446c5208d41dbaf","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":154,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:49:19.175Z","text":"但就算他不鼓动 他也会进去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98bad446c5208d41dbaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qb72cd493842e05a9fbe8","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":155,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T17:52:47.285Z","text":"鼓动一下就明显虚夸了。而这明显的虚夸成了庞然大物，谁也避不掉，这也就成了救他的抓手。否则我们也很难找到别的理由。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98bad446c5208d41dbaf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb72cd493842e05a9fbe8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98bad446c5208d41dbaf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q42f53c91f36aa39cc309","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":156,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T17:53:09.909Z","text":"对的 他就是往大了整","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb72cd493842e05a9fbe8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42f53c91f36aa39cc309","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb72cd493842e05a9fbe8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q4929a631bb9a5e0d835d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":157,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T17:58:42.063Z","text":"庭审记录还能找到吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2e58a50e42e2bfe625e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4929a631bb9a5e0d835d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e58a50e42e2bfe625e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qfe4e6c3ad057f7874bad","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":158,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T18:16:03.815Z","text":"Nfsc网站上就有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4929a631bb9a5e0d835d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe4e6c3ad057f7874bad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4929a631bb9a5e0d835d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qc43110dc64b00fa7eb59","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":159,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T18:36:31.823Z","text":"是不是限制郭自由目的达到了，再留着就是隐患，所以偷偷取消了，但还是被咱们发现了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ba70ca9b643a7b13622","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc43110dc64b00fa7eb59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd67f24a39941c0ae179c","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":160,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T18:39:20.775Z","text":"我在新的自诉中加了这一段。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc43110dc64b00fa7eb59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd67f24a39941c0ae179c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc43110dc64b00fa7eb59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q9b45df633743bdac0c3e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":161,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T18:43:04.960Z","text":"今天的自诉改了不下6-7遍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b45df633743bdac0c3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q26eb4f8ee680613f378c","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":162,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-20T18:45:05.224Z","text":"只要是证据就往里加","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd67f24a39941c0ae179c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26eb4f8ee680613f378c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd67f24a39941c0ae179c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qed8f9727067441fc9b41","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":163,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T18:48:46.324Z","text":"我现在写这个东西越写越遛了，越写越顺畅、全面、透彻、得心应手了。\n群里的一些垃圾是跟不上我的节奏的。它们骂我还是那些陈词滥调。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed8f9727067441fc9b41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qe4fe5442051367bff4f0","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":164,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T18:52:34.475Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  你的拒信都不敢发🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4fe5442051367bff4f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qc1c0dd234d8a17fc9f02","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":165,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T18:52:41.296Z","text":"还在便秘中","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c0dd234d8a17fc9f02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q4018c86cd8cdecd9b302","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":166,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-10-20T18:53:56.320Z","text":"他们要敢发拒绝那才牛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4018c86cd8cdecd9b302","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qcf0fe77cdfa5ff58b75e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":167,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T18:54:12.069Z","text":"他最终一定要发的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4018c86cd8cdecd9b302","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf0fe77cdfa5ff58b75e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4018c86cd8cdecd9b302","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd95cc4722c9a664d189c","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":168,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T18:56:13.707Z","text":"一两个人联名写上诉应该怎么操作？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf0fe77cdfa5ff58b75e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd95cc4722c9a664d189c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf0fe77cdfa5ff58b75e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q712c4ce2b7f541eb7f18","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":169,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T18:56:25.693Z","text":"比较复杂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q712c4ce2b7f541eb7f18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q62cdae070a5dbad726cd","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":170,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T18:56:27.653Z","text":"不建议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62cdae070a5dbad726cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q8bc7d62136f3331aa250","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":171,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T19:02:56.711Z","text":"你打电话了啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1c0dd234d8a17fc9f02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bc7d62136f3331aa250","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c0dd234d8a17fc9f02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q169b06d0ac1b10b070f5","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":172,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:03:08.674Z","text":"没打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q169b06d0ac1b10b070f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qa5c8f3b8ea868913450c","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":173,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:03:16.389Z","text":"要是寄过来肯定会有消息","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5c8f3b8ea868913450c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q3955f7b188414624a6e7","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":174,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:03:18.077Z","text":"烂尾的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3955f7b188414624a6e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qf6c186944f189209376d","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":175,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T19:03:32.588Z","text":"多长时间了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6c186944f189209376d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qdab1d2ef63f71fd5af37","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":176,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T19:03:40.900Z","text":"过几天你打电话问问。告诉他们，你也上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdab1d2ef63f71fd5af37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q19ede127f0ed22ce2242","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":177,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T19:04:14.356Z","text":"我的四个自诉一个比一个猛。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19ede127f0ed22ce2242","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q8abb11ba230592e0c9c6","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":178,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T19:04:41.688Z","text":"你什么时候上诉的，二巡不是说72小时有回答吗？到现在多长时间了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8abb11ba230592e0c9c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q6b3b9b1174b38594ba12","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":179,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T19:06:22.342Z","text":"是不是还有别人也已经去二巡了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b3b9b1174b38594ba12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qbcf57f24814a9494ccc4","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":180,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T19:07:15.290Z","text":"不会二巡到时候也积压一堆动议吧😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcf57f24814a9494ccc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q1dbea94eeea788fdb57a","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":181,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:08:02.551Z","text":"时间越长 越是好消息","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdab1d2ef63f71fd5af37","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dbea94eeea788fdb57a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdab1d2ef63f71fd5af37","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qbd91659198b4751f53ed","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":182,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:08:12.791Z","text":"妈的两三周了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8abb11ba230592e0c9c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd91659198b4751f53ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8abb11ba230592e0c9c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qc98b9feab7f12e8f0ad3","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":183,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:08:34.772Z","text":"就是吓死了 各种审核","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbcf57f24814a9494ccc4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98b9feab7f12e8f0ad3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcf57f24814a9494ccc4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q60d43ae89620fd7857d2","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":184,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T19:10:36.518Z","text":"我的最后的一个自诉就象脱缰的野马，自由发挥，放开了，啥都敢说。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60d43ae89620fd7857d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qb8a9d7e09cd6d6850269","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":185,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-20T19:11:32.555Z","text":"只怕想不到，不怕说不到。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8a9d7e09cd6d6850269","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q869076c26a6765f1df03","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":186,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:19:21.902Z","text":"我明天打电话看看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q869076c26a6765f1df03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qcbf4d2a14eb57585ec08","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":187,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-20T19:22:56.649Z","text":"你就直接告诉他们，你也上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbf4d2a14eb57585ec08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q59cb9a64661e23c3a3a9","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":188,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:23:24.583Z","text":"我告诉他们还有很多人都会上诉 他们这样就吓死了可不行啊哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59cb9a64661e23c3a3a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qf26c6734111100afa271","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":189,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T19:30:23.923Z","text":"二巡现在上传的都是10月16日发的动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf26c6734111100afa271","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q1c97f6804d583318199e","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":190,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:30:54.499Z","text":"我操 螺丝哥你不会把二巡的也给搞停了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c97f6804d583318199e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qa540d55ba0f4733923cf","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":191,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:31:57.780Z","text":"二巡你妈也停了就搞笑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa540d55ba0f4733923cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q7f609365129c56f2cf4f","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":192,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T19:33:13.630Z","text":"就是说二巡72小时上传动议这个说法是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f609365129c56f2cf4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qdcd236bf8bba917f8eb5","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":193,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-20T19:33:33.855Z","text":"如果正常情况，就是72小时就应该上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcd236bf8bba917f8eb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q839b586abcf397b503df","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":194,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:34:01.840Z","text":"螺丝哥这个估计已经是系统性警报了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdcd236bf8bba917f8eb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q839b586abcf397b503df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcd236bf8bba917f8eb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qd84e13672f138a2e330f","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":195,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:34:07.068Z","text":"内部审查 核查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd84e13672f138a2e330f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qcad46143c04e61b8af47","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":196,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:34:12.742Z","text":"现在二巡应该不多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcad46143c04e61b8af47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"q0aa0c3a7a3ef2035799b","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":197,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:43:10.627Z","text":"可能被标记为“special mandamus”\n\n你之前提过消息，说书记员提到是“special mandamus”——\n那通常意味着：\n    •    已经分配给了一个行政法官（staff attorney）；\n    •    由他起草 memo 给三位法官小组；\n    •    决定是否要 docket、是否要发 order。\n\n这种程序比普通 mandamus 多 2-3 周是常态。\n甚至有的 case（比如你朋友的这种涉及系统压制的）能卡 1-2 个月。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0aa0c3a7a3ef2035799b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"},{"id":"qe34fd5a18284485f7cd3","batch_id":"batch-000049","seq":198,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-20T19:46:31.186Z","text":"老练的观察者都知道：\n\n“在上诉法院里，越不立案、越拖，说明他们越不敢下笔。”\n\n这通常只有三种情况：\n    1.    案件太大、怕树大招风；\n    2.    内部有分歧（可能一位法官想 docket，一位反对）；\n    3.    案件涉及同法院系统性行为（例如：下级法院压制受害者动议）。\n\n你朋友这个 case 完全符合第 3 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越是好事","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5a76ff121363889c838","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000049"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000048","next_batch_id":"batch-000050"}