{"id":"batch-000050","number":50,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-10-22T21:47:09.746Z","date_end":"2025-10-23T19:42:02.149Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 050 (Oct 22, 2025 – Oct 23, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on recent court docket filings, attorney representation qualifications, and victim eligibility. Participants debated whether missing docket entries in the ECF system indicated administrative interception or procedural deadlock. Focus shifted to attorney Bradford Geyer's Motions 761 and 762 citing documents 733 and 744, with members disputing whether this represented a tactical maneuver to assert a no-victim narrative, or masked compromised credentials and external manipulation. Additional disputes examined AI motion analysis and third-party forfeiture claims.","guide_en":[{"title":"Speculation on the Presiding Judge's Stance and ECF System Deadlock Disputes","description":"Participants dispute whether recent court docket delays reflect judicial hesitation or systemic deadlock within the ECF system.","message_ids":["qb16bcee98842b4ea16ba","q24ed8561af9cd8b82b2a","qbc7a63783d7e20ecffdd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qb16bcee98842b4ea16ba","summary_en":"zha*** contends that Judge Torres is frantically searching for justifications."},{"message_id":"q24ed8561af9cd8b82b2a","summary_en":"rui*** maintains that the procedural situation represents a deadlock."},{"message_id":"qbc7a63783d7e20ecffdd","summary_en":"yyy*** refers to court docket entry 755."}]},{"title":"Disagreements over Rejected Attorney Representation and Filing Authenticity","description":"Participants discuss an attorney's refusal to provide representation and question why certain filings were blocked 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interested persons rather than parties, suggesting Rule of Law Foundation donations could establish standing because assets were allegedly purchased with foundation funds."},{"message_id":"qe5678073e433d89554de","summary_en":"wei*** emphasizes that these two terms carry distinct legal meanings in court and urges others to research them."},{"message_id":"q87506062f88387e96661","summary_en":"hon*** disputes another participant's motives, contending they only appeared to reap benefits once the court docket updated."}]},{"title":"Debate over Content and Stance in Bradford Geyer's Motions 761 and 762","description":"Participants analyze Bradford Geyer's Motions 761 and 762 regarding the exclusion of investor funds from forfeiture proceedings.","message_ids":["q97f1860f9050a23e70e0","q28662b0757bc518d6cdd","qa63560e70f3188f3d985"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q97f1860f9050a23e70e0","summary_en":"rui*** states that filing 762 concerns Bradford Geyer representing thousands of victims."},{"message_id":"q28662b0757bc518d6cdd","summary_en":"rui*** describes the motion's objective as excluding those investments from the forfeiture proceedings."},{"message_id":"qa63560e70f3188f3d985","summary_en":"sar*** asks what the attorney is attempting to accomplish with the filing."}]},{"title":"Exploring Motives Behind Citing Documents 733 and 744 in Motions","description":"Participants dissect attorney Bradford Geyer's strategic motives for citing court documents 733 and 744 in his submissions.","message_ids":["q3f39b587805d3f2765dd","q734208eee19d828fbf5f","q7223c0864a26dd5ad81a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3f39b587805d3f2765dd","summary_en":"zha*** contends that nobody would pay attention to Bradford Geyer without the Alliance and Sara."},{"message_id":"q734208eee19d828fbf5f","summary_en":"zha*** argues that Geyer serves as a spokesperson for the Alliance farms rather than representing investors."},{"message_id":"q7223c0864a26dd5ad81a","summary_en":"rui*** argues that 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filings."},{"message_id":"q588a3e14d4129bc0c133","summary_en":"ntp*** questions the motives behind continuously promoting and increasing target numbers from 5,000 to 10,000."},{"message_id":"qc83a37ae87ee5917babb","summary_en":"wei*** contends that court proceedings require shifting the burden of proof and criticizes others for making unevidenced allegations of false representation against Bradford Geyer."}]},{"title":"Doubts Regarding Bradford Geyer's Representation Credentials and Client Numbers","description":"Participants question attorney Bradford Geyer's representation credentials and dispute his claimed detachment from the Alliance.","message_ids":["q0cecda5c05e3ad210ffa","q8d080ead7788a4ea379b","qf6bb4ad21f8aa7dc7017"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0cecda5c05e3ad210ffa","summary_en":"ntp*** argues that overturning the case would inevitably bring recognition without needing extraordinary efforts."},{"message_id":"q8d080ead7788a4ea379b","summary_en":"him*** disputes Bradford Geyer's 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吗","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd9b24e8ab805f2e8d286","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbad841d42f6c1d2bc0ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q995326db80728aad2692","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":203,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T05:40:20.839Z","text":"学习周总理，鞠躬尽瘁吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7197e42c5a7859794e08","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q995326db80728aad2692","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7197e42c5a7859794e08","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q29fb50fb55068512998e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":204,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T05:41:19.188Z","text":"看下那三个动议的时间，超过22号了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e113f02c6bda465757b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29fb50fb55068512998e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e113f02c6bda465757b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q5e8af8a5e51053104665","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":205,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T05:46:07.569Z","text":"纠结有没有律师是为啥呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6ceb77ee9438b88cfb3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e8af8a5e51053104665","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q4312462b7758583e61ab","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":206,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T05:46:27.978Z","text":"有律师才让上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e8af8a5e51053104665","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4312462b7758583e61ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e8af8a5e51053104665","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q891be684a6072f2cb721","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":207,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T05:47:27.016Z","text":"美国22号刚结束，那三个动议什么时候上的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q891be684a6072f2cb721","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q2fb5561e57d674fd298d","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":208,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T05:47:32.877Z","text":"今天","edited":false,"reply_to":"q891be684a6072f2cb721","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb5561e57d674fd298d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q891be684a6072f2cb721","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qfb2a701675ba5400bfab","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":209,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T05:47:36.568Z","text":"22号","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb2a701675ba5400bfab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q2b35d5d006295850c4b4","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":210,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T05:47:53.830Z","text":"那没超时啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b35d5d006295850c4b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q7a9dc2f473be1b12c207","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":211,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T05:48:09.358Z","text":"只能说明打压个人第三方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a9dc2f473be1b12c207","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q153452cde3f2b4079ce4","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":212,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T05:48:27.285Z","text":"如果现在还有上的，那就问题大了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q153452cde3f2b4079ce4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qab2f20ed94862ec2cbb6","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":213,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T05:48:34.902Z","text":"ecf这么多天都这么安静 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chu***］ 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第三方联合起来并没什么不对 但是攻击他就不对了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bff56260bdfea15040d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q2e9f18592b9fdac76e8e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":269,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:25:45.188Z","text":"哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e9f18592b9fdac76e8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q3d08e5f1f72738f24b0e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":270,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:25:55.886Z","text":"我把文件传了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d08e5f1f72738f24b0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qc0f9c1b3ea12d0c13814","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":271,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:26:03.394Z","text":"等下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f9c1b3ea12d0c13814","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q9cb326da0c2131e261d7","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":272,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T06:26:16.202Z","text":"AI，也会说谎的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cb326da0c2131e261d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q74259910e6c3836b46dd","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":273,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-23T06:26:25.343Z","text":"那可能意味着盖尔,联盟，都在关注我们翻案组。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qccf84a57217d005f96c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74259910e6c3836b46dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccf84a57217d005f96c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q9b7e08465117b0f8e7d8","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":274,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-23T06:26:26.254Z","text":"必须把盖尔打死。这个家伙很坏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b7e08465117b0f8e7d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q40a04b9a4fa61f031b86","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":275,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:26:49.853Z","text":"我觉得是不是他这个墙头草嗅到味道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b7e08465117b0f8e7d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40a04b9a4fa61f031b86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b7e08465117b0f8e7d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qaaa66f8c52f2b07c3779","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":276,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-23T06:27:01.319Z","text":"他这句话叫：避重就轻","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bff56260bdfea15040d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaa66f8c52f2b07c3779","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bff56260bdfea15040d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q8570b53488300e91757f","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":277,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-23T06:27:02.432Z","text":"他根本没有回应他的客户怎么来的。还是在继续掩盖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8570b53488300e91757f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qad1ba06a753790b435a3","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":278,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:27:09.919Z","text":"哦！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8570b53488300e91757f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad1ba06a753790b435a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8570b53488300e91757f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q46c6f733da0e0eb4fa50","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":279,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:27:12.043Z","text":"我明白了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c6f733da0e0eb4fa50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qf85840feebca0b3d4a95","batch_id":"b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我研究研究","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf85840feebca0b3d4a95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q67246a0b7706daa8b2eb","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":281,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T06:28:00.682Z","text":"目前SEO的最新方法，就是饲养AI","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67246a0b7706daa8b2eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q8284b20cbe3434a15759","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":282,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T06:28:04.934Z","text":"AI说谎也比你这个垃圾强多了。AI帮了我大忙，远远好过你这个垃圾、废物。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9cb326da0c2131e261d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8284b20cbe3434a15759","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cb326da0c2131e261d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q3f39b587805d3f2765dd","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":283,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-23T06:28:11.484Z","text":"没有联盟，小sara，没人会搭理盖尔。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8570b53488300e91757f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f39b587805d3f2765dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8570b53488300e91757f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q734208eee19d828fbf5f","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":284,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-23T06:32:32.614Z","text":"他是联盟农场的代言人，而不应该是投资人的代理人。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qac26b3aae587167398b8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q734208eee19d828fbf5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q7223c0864a26dd5ad81a","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":285,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:37:43.604Z","text":"🧩 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墙头草太明显了我靠","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d99892205f8eb55fdd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q46daf67a424766f6492d","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":305,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:55:25.471Z","text":"他知道我们肯定可以翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46daf67a424766f6492d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qfd7232cc66cde7fa555d","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":306,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T06:57:15.541Z","text":"盖尔认为我是老大 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chu***］ 盖尔这个[屏蔽词] 墙头草 不是一般的坏！他看出来我们一定能赢！他是第一个转向的！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9138f37b67c57b3f74dd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9f70e54b6c5dd5f211f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q9463a7e29c2e6e4de901","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":311,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:02:40.574Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 这个橄榄枝接不接？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9463a7e29c2e6e4de901","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qe8c1e43dc98dac757354","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":312,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:05:08.378Z","text":"盖尔的意思 是翻案 他可以合作 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但我无法阻止群内其他人打盖尔","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdec679cac5ad9ee1355","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qd5e1946e8e1e13beae95","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":325,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:20:40.837Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1981259026911678563?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5e1946e8e1e13beae95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qd83f09c5d626e862622d","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":326,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-10-23T07:21:17.663Z","text":"853+rule 60(d)(3)+fraud upon the court 不受时间限制","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd83f09c5d626e862622d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q15604684718b6ef3f3e4","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":327,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:21:33.829Z","text":"不对吧 853没有rule60啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd83f09c5d626e862622d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15604684718b6ef3f3e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd83f09c5d626e862622d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q11dea90cbf05df5b23fd","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":328,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:21:41.324Z","text":"只有受害者有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11dea90cbf05df5b23fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qe94f66ffdf6e5d0916b1","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":329,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:22:55.731Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  盖尔这一次直接转向了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94f66ffdf6e5d0916b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q7da1284fa8a7b9f89e01","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":330,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:23:07.966Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  他的意思 就是他同意检方司法欺诈了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7da1284fa8a7b9f89e01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q864a86a7279e540cba36","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":331,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:23:32.569Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 他想代表联盟农场来摘桃","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q864a86a7279e540cba36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q828a824dd1e203cb841e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":332,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T07:32:15.646Z","text":"759.761.762是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0796f972c3f8c6417e29","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q828a824dd1e203cb841e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0796f972c3f8c6417e29","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q90e412f559cab9d0bcd0","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":333,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:32:31.588Z","text":"你真是個傻缺。Geyer本來就是說客戶是政府造成的受害者。現在人家澄清了，你又跳出來說人家牆頭草，是你一開始就沒看懂他的意思。蠢貨。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4282dae12aadf2f8c8f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90e412f559cab9d0bcd0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4282dae12aadf2f8c8f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q5d6ea737f01546168479","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":334,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:34:01.725Z","text":"不要聽風就是雨，自己去看文件。\nGeyer的文件就是代表喜交所客戶，至於怎麼來的，可以被介紹來，沒問題，合法就行。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d6ea737f01546168479","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q71d81fbfa29a2f8ac0e2","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":335,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:34:33.049Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  你回应回应？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5d6ea737f01546168479","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71d81fbfa29a2f8ac0e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d6ea737f01546168479","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q82de9bf88de0d7f6661b","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":336,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:35:12.573Z","text":"［用户 an7***］  我跟你说过很多次 唯一一个动议里面没打盖儿的就是我 因为盖儿是个小角色","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82de9bf88de0d7f6661b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q793612e88a07126494f1","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":337,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:35:19.046Z","text":"你快別意淫了，你去當受害者，就看出你個[屏蔽词]樣子了。\n用你意淫的理論，反正別人都是舔你。","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd75479ee1f3bcb121939","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q793612e88a07126494f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qcfdb34bb15d10a7afc1f","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":338,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T07:35:37.683Z","text":"文件发来看看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf9f70e54b6c5dd5f211f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfdb34bb15d10a7afc1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9f70e54b6c5dd5f211f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q4b0b4e2b87a5f9c668f8","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":339,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:35:40.600Z","text":"你爹盖尔自己帮我打742🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q793612e88a07126494f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b0b4e2b87a5f9c668f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q793612e88a07126494f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q12191b7d03ab0559826c","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":340,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:35:52.603Z","text":"爬楼 我发了761","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfdb34bb15d10a7afc1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12191b7d03ab0559826c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfdb34bb15d10a7afc1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q088ea6bf159dc3be2e79","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":341,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:36:21.219Z","text":"Geyer代理的是幾千位投資者，幫你個受害者[屏蔽词]？搞笑吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q088ea6bf159dc3be2e79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qd998e1b84226bea75f68","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":342,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:38:00.098Z","text":"［用户 an7***］ 你爹盖儿为什么要帮我打742啊 哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":"qadb363e0910c11914807","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd998e1b84226bea75f68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q5c83d5a826b1544327d9","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":343,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:38:15.703Z","text":"［用户 an7***］ 为什么要引用我的733 744啊 哈哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c83d5a826b1544327d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qc80daccce8d40826092e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":344,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:39:45.597Z","text":"Geyer的文件我早分析過了，跟以前的主張一樣，基本代表客戶意思，不認可政府沒收，認為客戶被政府凍結行為影響財產權益，即是政府行為的財務受害人，而非本案被告的欺詐受害人。\n去看看文件再說話。\n反而是你們一直瞎攪和，Geyer因此要澄清，而他代理的訴求基本一致。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc80daccce8d40826092e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qf8a18539d29f3a74cb6a","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":345,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:40:13.005Z","text":"盖尔的问题不是他自己的问题 而是他的客户是怎么来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc80daccce8d40826092e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8a18539d29f3a74cb6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc80daccce8d40826092e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q97e80ccf28bd13092933","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":346,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:40:19.886Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 对不对啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97e80ccf28bd13092933","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qa185efb7699378bba2f2","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":347,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-23T07:40:50.643Z","text":"是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8a18539d29f3a74cb6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa185efb7699378bba2f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8a18539d29f3a74cb6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q940a8bd447fc8f37a8dc","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":348,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-23T07:42:10.738Z","text":"https://x.com/BradGeyer/status/1979912886681001989?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q940a8bd447fc8f37a8dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q8c89f04f4ebab955451e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":349,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:42:24.871Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 盖尔本来是想和检方合作 给老郭捅刀子 现在看到我们这么牛逼 他觉得我们肯定可以翻案 所以投诚了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c89f04f4ebab955451e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q305192ada3b57aedcefe","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":350,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:44:04.624Z","text":"我本來就沒必要給Geyer站台，是你們一直在問我這個問題。\n而我一直的主張就是：所有第三方聯合起來，否定數千受害人敘事。我一直強調Geyer代理的6700，Gavenman代理的112+4客戶，加上現在又增加了幾個，再加上自訴第三方，就達到7000，因此就否定了檢方數千受害人敘事。\n\n而你這個[屏蔽词]以受害人身份自訴，當然容不下這麼多第三方了。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q305192ada3b57aedcefe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q1ca6a93efb29b568712a","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":351,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:44:36.443Z","text":"你的思路根本行不通","edited":false,"reply_to":"q305192ada3b57aedcefe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ca6a93efb29b568712a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q305192ada3b57aedcefe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q25ce99ffb3ce234fa973","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":352,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:44:48.941Z","text":"受害者就算是0 也能定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25ce99ffb3ce234fa973","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qe66a5e065573bcd95669","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":353,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:45:19.456Z","text":"受害人的否定只能是辅助战略","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe66a5e065573bcd95669","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q3bb81101138834b8addc","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":354,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:45:34.429Z","text":"行不行的通是個常識。你們小肚雞腸，只想著往自己臉上貼金。比[屏蔽词]還噁心。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bb81101138834b8addc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qaa424da84bb5a8cc4a85","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":355,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:45:36.767Z","text":"［用户 an7***］ 你到底懂不懂啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa424da84bb5a8cc4a85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qc7a2d2ac70bcfbcde324","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":356,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:45:53.918Z","text":"没有受害者 也能定罪 ok？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bb81101138834b8addc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7a2d2ac70bcfbcde324","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bb81101138834b8addc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qc6706a25cb5882902688","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":357,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T07:46:38.394Z","text":"好的，这份文件是由一群投资者的律师在美国联邦法院提交的，代表的是大约6,512名 Himalaya Exchange 投资人。整份文件的目的是回应一些其他个人投资者想取回被冻结资金的请求，同时表达这些人的共同立场和担忧。以下是它主要涉及的法律问题，用简单明了的方式总结如下：\n\n---\n\n### 🔹1. 投资者是不是被骗了？\n\n这份文件里的投资者说：**我们没有被骗**，我们是自愿投资的，而且平台（Himalaya Exchange）运作良好，是政府冻结了我们的资金，才让我们损失惨重。他们不认同政府把他们叫做“受害者”的说法。\n\n🔸**法律上怎么看？**\n不管这些人自愿与否，如果他们是被郭文贵等人的虚假承诺（比如“我赔你所有亏损”）骗来投资的，那他们就**法律上是受害者**，不管他们自己怎么觉得。美国法院也已经认定这是一个诈骗案，投资人确实遭受了损失。\n\n---\n\n### 🔹2. 政府有没有权力冻结这些资金？\n\n投资者认为，政府不该冻结 Himalaya Exchange 上的资金，那是属于他们的私人财产，不是郭文贵的。\n\n🔸**法律上怎么看？**\n只要政府有证据表明这些资金可能和诈骗有关，就可以向法院申请冻结。这是合法的。法院也已经批准冻结这些钱，用来将来赔偿真正的受害者。所以从法律程序上说，**政府的行为是有依据的**。\n\n---\n\n### 🔹3. 投资者律师是不是代表郭文贵？\n\n这份文件的律师明确说：我们**不代表郭文贵**，我们只是想帮投资人把被冻结的资金拿回来。\n\n🔸**问题在哪？**\n这些律师的很多说法，比如“平台没诈骗”“政府搞错了”，其实跟郭文贵的辩护很像。有人担心这些律师和郭文贵的阵营有某种联系，甚至是他动员支持者组织起来反过来对付政府。但从程序上，他们还是合法地代表客户发声。\n\n---\n\n### 🔹4. 文件里对政府和法院的误解\n\n文件里还有一些对美国法律程序的误解，比如：\n\n* 把破产法院（在康涅狄格州）当成可以被刑事法院（在纽约）命令的机构，这是错误的；\n* 认为法院可以直接返还资金，而不通过政府的赔偿程序，这在定罪前通常不会发生。\n\n---\n\n### 🔹5. 政治因素的质疑\n\n文件暗示：这个案件可能是政治动机，比如针对中国异见人士（郭文贵）打压。\n\n🔸**法院怎么看？**\n法院没有采纳这个说法，案件的核心是**是否构成诈骗**，跟郭的政治身份无关。陪审团已经裁定他有罪。\n\n---\n\n### ✅ 总结一句话：\n\n这份文件代表了一部分投资者的声音，他们不认为自己是受害者，想要追回被冻结的资金，但从美国法律来看，资金是否属于他们还要等法院决定，政府目前的冻结行为是合法的，而案件的本质是诈骗，不是政治迫害。\n\n如果你想，我也可以帮你用图表或更口语化的方式再进一步简化。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeebe5933eb5825329a13","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6706a25cb5882902688","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q0187c3cb96d46c49ee94","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":358,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:47:05.119Z","text":"說完了，你自己嗨吧，精神病患者。\n觀點重複過多次，你們不信，這次又被Geyer打臉了吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0187c3cb96d46c49ee94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qe6971f4d68b49e107b6b","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":359,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:47:28.474Z","text":"你爹盖尔来跪舔我的动议 打的是你这个龟儿子的脸🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0187c3cb96d46c49ee94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6971f4d68b49e107b6b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0187c3cb96d46c49ee94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qacfea97d3f2be29a7db7","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":360,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:47:44.354Z","text":"谁让他引用733了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacfea97d3f2be29a7db7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qfb13707981bd9f296cf4","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":361,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:47:49.383Z","text":"不引用会死？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb13707981bd9f296cf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q4fb83bd1bf5391e7fcc1","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":362,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:47:54.037Z","text":"我让他引用了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fb83bd1bf5391e7fcc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q9a585d1f8693bc5bc260","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":363,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T07:49:39.522Z","text":"盖尔跟共产党一样，张嘴就是结论，他说无关就无关了？他怎么不解释解释他怎么做到代理遍布世界的几千人的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a585d1f8693bc5bc260","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q54c9aec334edb5a047d1","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":364,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:49:45.091Z","text":"你又不是喜交所客戶，而Geyer代理眾多客戶，在法庭上的聲音就是不一樣。\nGeyer目的是用新的crypto法案恢復喜交所運營，你又沒有喜交所投資，難怪怕這部分資產被剝離本案沒收範圍之外。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54c9aec334edb5a047d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qf2b26dc0cc75997841bd","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":365,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:50:07.834Z","text":"我他妈也有喜交所的钱好不好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54c9aec334edb5a047d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2b26dc0cc75997841bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54c9aec334edb5a047d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q946258acaf8de81cbfa6","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":366,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:50:34.668Z","text":"［用户 an7***］ 你能不能去看法庭文件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q946258acaf8de81cbfa6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q3417e17b06c6b42f7ddc","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":367,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:51:14.528Z","text":"他代理的客戶是介紹來的，有問題嗎？螺絲說不能介紹，你們就不會自己驗證？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a585d1f8693bc5bc260","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3417e17b06c6b42f7ddc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a585d1f8693bc5bc260","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qcc2f83b8ede8d5f8e25d","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":368,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:51:29.445Z","text":"共谋犯介绍的 能靠谱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3417e17b06c6b42f7ddc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc2f83b8ede8d5f8e25d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3417e17b06c6b42f7ddc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q109a26688ff5ecf4ec71","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":369,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-23T07:52:01.399Z","text":"首先，是共谋犯介绍的，再者，是通过欺诈手段介绍的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc2f83b8ede8d5f8e25d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q109a26688ff5ecf4ec71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc2f83b8ede8d5f8e25d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q082c459a1c1ac2393e1a","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":370,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:52:32.263Z","text":"你有投喜交所？你不就是G Club嗎？你如果取消了被代理，那你要自己去要了。😿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2b26dc0cc75997841bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q082c459a1c1ac2393e1a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2b26dc0cc75997841bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q796d42f576ece27ac238","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":371,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T07:52:39.293Z","text":"他自己说的是公开渠道介绍来的，什么公开渠道？这个渠道怎么来的？解释解释啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3417e17b06c6b42f7ddc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q796d42f576ece27ac238","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3417e17b06c6b42f7ddc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q06224c5b164bda141d1e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":372,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:52:56.500Z","text":"你他妈是不是[屏蔽词]… 733的附件里面我都写了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q082c459a1c1ac2393e1a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06224c5b164bda141d1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q082c459a1c1ac2393e1a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q8f3235e019e0a9fac29b","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":373,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:53:09.136Z","text":"老子从来都没指望盖儿能给我要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f3235e019e0a9fac29b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q7662b988662caceef25f","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":374,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T07:53:10.555Z","text":"基于美国法律，这份名为《Victim’s Motion》的动议书（由一位自称受害者的个人 Ryan Bai 提交）在法律上存在若干关键问题和挑战。以下是基于美国法律原则和程序制度的分析：","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7662b988662caceef25f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qa3a509b06e3199d051ae","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":375,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T07:53:23.059Z","text":"---\n\n## 一、程序上的问题\n\n### 1. ⚖️ 受害人是否有权直接要求撤销刑事法庭的没收令？\n\n**问题点：**\n该动议试图依据《联邦民事诉讼规则 Rule 60(d)(3)》撤销刑事案件中已经裁定的资产没收命令。这一规则本质上适用于民事案件中的“欺诈法院”情形，并**不直接适用于刑事案件中的没收程序**。\n\n**法律分析：**\n在刑事案件中，如受害者或第三方希望主张对没收财产的权利，应依据**21 U.S.C. § 853(n)** 提出“第三方权利主张”（Petition asserting third-party interest in forfeited property），而不是用民事规则60直接挑战刑事判令。因此，这种程序路径有明显不合适之处。\n\n---\n\n### 2. 📄 多项主张属于“混合性请求”，程序管辖模糊\n\n该动议既提出刑事法下的受害人权利（Crime Victims’ Rights Act），又试图引用民事规则（Rule 60），还要求指派独立接管人（Receiver）、让法庭取消刑事诉讼中的现有命令、制约检察官与破产托管人等。\n\n**问题点：**\n这是将多个不同法律领域（刑事、破产、民事救济）混合，缺乏清晰的程序分类，容易被法院驳回为“不明确、不合规或超出本院职权范围”。\n\n---","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3a509b06e3199d051ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q3912b89e957ae7ed98c7","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":376,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T07:53:25.830Z","text":"## 二、法律依据上的问题\n\n### 3. 🧾 指控政府“欺诈法院”（Fraud upon the court）证据薄弱\n\n动议中多次称政府和托管人 Luc Despins 提供“虚假证据”或“误导法院”，但引用的内容大多是：视频没完全公开、政府引用不完整、没有充分调查某些债权人的真实性。\n\n**法律标准：**\n“Fraud upon the court” 是一种非常高门槛的主张，要求证明政府或当事人**故意伪造证据或有严重的不当行为**，并直接影响到判决的公正性。法院通常不会因证据不充分、引用选择性、或调查疏忽而认定为“欺诈法院”。\n\n**本案中：**\n\n* 并没有证据显示检方或托管人故意制造虚假材料；\n* 所谓“Brady义务”违反（检方未披露有利于被告的证据）适用于**被告人的权利**，而非受害者主张；\n* 指控“Gongzu”等债权人虚假，很可能属于破产程序中债权人核查的问题，非刑事法庭可直接处理的争议。\n\n因此，从现有内容看，该动议**缺乏达到“欺诈法院”标准的证据支持**。\n\n---\n\n### 4. 🔐 请求“排除检察官和托管人”的要求无法律基础\n\n动议要求法庭将政府检察官和托管人 Luc Despins“驱逐出没收与分配程序”，但美国法律并不允许私人或受害者以这种方式“更换或罢免”执法机关或法院指定人员。\n\n**法律上：**\n只有在极端情况下，如确凿证据表明托管人或检方存在严重利益冲突、欺诈或违纪行为，法院才会启动调查并决定更换。而目前该动议没有呈现足够事实依据，仅以政策不满和程序争议作为“驱逐理由”是不足够的。\n\n---\n\n## 三、管辖与救济机制问题\n\n### 5. ⚖️ “申请接管人/中立第三方”超出刑事法院常规职权\n\n动议请求法院指派中立的接管人（Receiver）来接管资产处理流程，这种做法通常在**民事欺诈、清算或监理型案件**中使用，在刑事案件中极为罕见。刑事没收的资产通常由**美国法警（USMS）或法院指定机构**执行，并遵循联邦检察官的管理。法院是否采纳此类替代机制需视具体案情，而不是单方面指令。\n\n---\n\n### 6. ⚖️ 强调CVRA（《受害者权利法》）权利但主张超出适用范围\n\n受害者确实享有：\n\n* 被听见的权利；\n* 获得赔偿的权利；\n* 要求合理调查与无不当拖延的程序正义。\n\n但动议中试图以 CVRA 为基础**要求终止没收程序、撤销所有法令、设立新机构监管资产**，这些都**超出了CVRA所保障的“程序性参与权利”范围**。\n\n---\n\n## 四、潜在的合法性主张（但需依照程序）\n\n虽然这份动议存在上述问题，但其中部分关注点在法律上是**可以被认真对待的**，如果走正规途径：\n\n* ✅ 如果他对某部分资金拥有合法所有权，可以在最终没收判令发布后，依据 21 U.S.C. § 853(n) 递交第三方权益主张（Petition）。\n* ✅ 如果他认为受害赔偿程序设计不公平，可以在没收阶段向 DOJ 的“赃物返还办公室”申请行政宽恕（Remission）。\n* ✅ 如果他认为破产程序中的债权人认证有问题，应向**康涅狄格破产法院**而非纽约刑事法院提出异议。\n\n---\n\n## 总结：这份动议的主要法律问题\n\n| 问题类型   | 具体内容                              |\n| ------ | --------------------------------- |\n| 程序错误   | 使用民事规则挑战刑事命令；管辖权混淆                |\n| 法律依据不足 | “欺诈法院”主张证据不足；要求撤换检察官或托管人无依据       |\n| 超出权利范围 | 将CVRA用于要求终止资产没收、设立接管人，法律不支持       |\n| 管辖错误   | 关于非法债权人、资产处理问题应由破产法院而非刑事法院审理      |\n| 救济方式不当 | 可考虑提交第三方资产主张或走行政赃物返还程序，而非直接推翻刑事裁定 |\n\n--","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3912b89e957ae7ed98c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q6624a4e10be366be5046","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":377,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:53:53.554Z","text":"介紹沒有問題，我之前說過很多次了。搞笑吧？哪條寫了介紹人的要求了？拿出來證據","edited":false,"reply_to":"q109a26688ff5ecf4ec71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6624a4e10be366be5046","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q109a26688ff5ecf4ec71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q1352e33c008e1c5a4ab3","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":378,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:54:13.731Z","text":"我请你把我的报告 和733 一起输入机器人 谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7662b988662caceef25f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1352e33c008e1c5a4ab3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7662b988662caceef25f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qdbd50b29d4f0c1a2e386","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":379,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:55:28.435Z","text":"你指望又個P用，喜交所恢復運營，就盤活整個G系列了。\n對了你不是美國公民嗎？你怎麼有喜交所數字資產的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f3235e019e0a9fac29b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd50b29d4f0c1a2e386","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f3235e019e0a9fac29b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q9b9ba759cd44a1446a8e","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":380,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:55:59.769Z","text":"我在喜交所开户时还不是美国公民哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbd50b29d4f0c1a2e386","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b9ba759cd44a1446a8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd50b29d4f0c1a2e386","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q8f9f25fcdb8032546a4c","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":381,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:57:46.989Z","text":"你这是什么垃圾机器人 要是有问题 托雷斯早就把我干趴下了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3912b89e957ae7ed98c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f9f25fcdb8032546a4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3912b89e957ae7ed98c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qc52e8869964c7c43569c","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":382,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:57:58.300Z","text":"那你的稅務情況得好好被查查。去過你入籍以後，沒有主動向喜交所更新你的身份變更，尤其是喜交所並不在美國運營也不接受美國公民成為客戶，你已經涉嫌違反KYC和監管要求了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc52e8869964c7c43569c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q884656f9677c7fcacbcd","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":383,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T07:58:01.497Z","text":"盖尔现在才发动议，就是不给人们反驳他的时间，因为他知道这帮人的厉害","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q884656f9677c7fcacbcd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q49a72f9986ebbedc8295","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":384,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T07:58:19.832Z","text":"有了ai，哪个律师也不是对手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49a72f9986ebbedc8295","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q555a2e76920fddb7c84c","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":385,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:58:26.038Z","text":"那你去举报吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc52e8869964c7c43569c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q555a2e76920fddb7c84c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc52e8869964c7c43569c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q038569de9ff9200be802","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":386,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T07:59:02.495Z","text":"chatgpt","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f9f25fcdb8032546a4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q038569de9ff9200be802","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f9f25fcdb8032546a4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qd6b4183c7785a8d4bc67","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":387,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:59:16.537Z","text":"你把733和我的报告一起输入","edited":false,"reply_to":"q038569de9ff9200be802","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6b4183c7785a8d4bc67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q038569de9ff9200be802","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q8bb3e7844736e48f65de","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":388,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T07:59:37.192Z","text":"光733输入没用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bb3e7844736e48f65de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q893ec91770065c4963cf","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":389,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T07:59:43.209Z","text":"你放心，我沒必要跟你個患者一般見識。就是告訴你，你的主張有重大瑕疵。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q555a2e76920fddb7c84c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893ec91770065c4963cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q555a2e76920fddb7c84c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qd1517dab6ae6a30bcbf9","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":390,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T08:00:01.842Z","text":"我的主张连托雷斯都不敢干我 你又算什么东西🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q893ec91770065c4963cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1517dab6ae6a30bcbf9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q893ec91770065c4963cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q70f28fef203ae700c290","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":391,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-23T08:00:03.928Z","text":"当然不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8bb3e7844736e48f65de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70f28fef203ae700c290","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bb3e7844736e48f65de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qf78d0007dbfc40c8f03a","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":392,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T08:00:58.159Z","text":"这不是胡搅蛮缠吗？你他妈要收钱当然要替客户说话了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf78d0007dbfc40c8f03a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q9c11dd8bb1b294c63e4c","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":393,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T08:01:06.632Z","text":"別人的主張也沒有被法官回應，就你跟個神經病似的整天意淫。😿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c11dd8bb1b294c63e4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q02362cd3a0fb740d5307","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":394,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T08:01:59.193Z","text":"这货鸡贼的很","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf78d0007dbfc40c8f03a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02362cd3a0fb740d5307","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf78d0007dbfc40c8f03a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q26158128d5f3809adcbb","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":395,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-23T08:03:28.726Z","text":"還有你質疑這個也是假的，那個也是假的，人家法官有必要、有義務回答你嗎？神經吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26158128d5f3809adcbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q341773fefd65f608fc71","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":396,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T08:03:51.378Z","text":"我不是质疑 我就是干法庭上所有人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26158128d5f3809adcbb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q341773fefd65f608fc71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26158128d5f3809adcbb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q3f090882fb6663f114d8","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":397,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T08:03:53.612Z","text":"法官我也干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f090882fb6663f114d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qf0887aefa68606d42d4f","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":398,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T08:04:27.882Z","text":"法官都被我快赶走了 她自己一句话都不敢说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0887aefa68606d42d4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"q354237355deabf95ea29","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":399,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T08:04:33.136Z","text":"有这么窝囊的法官？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q354237355deabf95ea29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"},{"id":"qbd61bd4265d3b1460e1b","batch_id":"batch-000050","seq":400,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T08:04:41.415Z","text":"他还是老套路，说人话不干人事儿，而且这次有点急于给自己洗白的味道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8cddb1729a34085b49e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd61bd4265d3b1460e1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cddb1729a34085b49e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000050"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000049","next_batch_id":"batch-000051"}